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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Ben Lerner’s slender new novel, “Transcription,” is just 130 pages long, yet it cracks open some of our most colossal and enduring philosophical questions.<br>
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 On this episode, MJ Franklin discusses “Transcription” with fellow Book Review editors Gregory Cowles and Alexandra Jacobs.</p>
<p><br><strong>Other books mentioned in this episode:</strong></p>
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 <li>“Leaving the Atocha Station,” “10:04” and “The Topeka School,” by Ben Lerner</li>
 <li>“The Dance of Anger,” by Harriet Lerner</li>
 <li>“Reporting,” by Lillian Ross</li>
 <li>“Magic and Loss: The Internet as Art,” by Virginia Heffernan</li>
 <li>“In Love: A Memoir of Love and Loss,” by Amy Bloom</li>
 <li>“No One Is Talking About This,” by Patricia Lockwood</li>
 <li>“The Shallows” by Nicholas Carr</li>
 <li>“Universality,” by Natasha Brown</li>
 <li>“White Noise” and “The Body Artist,” by Don DeLillo</li>
 <li>“A Hunger Artist,” by Franz Kafka</li>
 <li>“A Visit From the Goon Squad,” by Jennifer Egan</li>
 <li>“Asymmetry,” by Lisa Halliday</li>
 <li>“Trust,” by Hernan Diaz</li>
 <li>“The Mezzanine” and “Vox,” by Nicholson Baker</li>
 <li>“Outline,” by Rachel Cusk</li>
 <li>The books of Virginia Woolf</li>
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<p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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 The second section flashes to the future. Thomas has died, and the article that our narrator wrote has become enshrined as the final interview with the iconic artist. At a symposium in Madrid, the narrator confesses that his interview was reconstructed rather than transcribed — a revelation that dismays the other guests and infuriates Max. Then we flash again. In the final section, the narrator talks to Max, who discusses his own complicated relationship with Thomas and technology, including how the internet and other digital tools impacted his family during several crises.<br>
 Through these scenes, “Transcription” asks a series of questions: How does technology mediate our lives? How does it bring us together or pull us apart? Is there a difference between what’s real and what’s true? It also becomes a potent and poignant study of fatherhood and what it means.<br>
 On this episode, MJ Franklin discusses “Transcription” with fellow Book Review editors Gregory Cowles and Alexandra Jacobs.</p>
<p><br><strong>Other books mentioned in this episode:</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>“Leaving the Atocha Station,” “10:04” and “The Topeka School,” by Ben Lerner</li>
 <li>“The Dance of Anger,” by Harriet Lerner</li>
 <li>“Reporting,” by Lillian Ross</li>
 <li>“Magic and Loss: The Internet as Art,” by Virginia Heffernan</li>
 <li>“In Love: A Memoir of Love and Loss,” by Amy Bloom</li>
 <li>“No One Is Talking About This,” by Patricia Lockwood</li>
 <li>“The Shallows” by Nicholas Carr</li>
 <li>“Universality,” by Natasha Brown</li>
 <li>“White Noise” and “The Body Artist,” by Don DeLillo</li>
 <li>“A Hunger Artist,” by Franz Kafka</li>
 <li>“A Visit From the Goon Squad,” by Jennifer Egan</li>
 <li>“Asymmetry,” by Lisa Halliday</li>
 <li>“Trust,” by Hernan Diaz</li>
 <li>“The Mezzanine” and “Vox,” by Nicholson Baker</li>
 <li>“Outline,” by Rachel Cusk</li>
 <li>The books of Virginia Woolf</li>
</ul>
<p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Today we are delighted to share an episode from our colleagues on “The Ezra Klein Show,” originally published on March 31. Ezra interviewed author Michael Pollan, whose best-selling books include “The Omnivore’s Dilemma,” “In Defense of Food,” and “How to Change Your Mind.” Pollan’s latest book, <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/646644/a-world-appears-by-michael-pollan/" rel="noopener noreferrer">“A World Appears: A Journey Into Consciousness,”</a> came out earlier this year. It’s an exploration of what consciousness is, and the book is — as <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/27/books/review/a-world-appears-michael-pollan.html" rel="noopener noreferrer">our review</a> put it — “highly pleasurable to read.”</p>
<p>Mentioned in the episode:</p>
<p><strong>“</strong><a href="https://www.hurlburt.faculty.unlv.edu/hurlburt-akhter-2006.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>The Descriptive Experience Sampling method</strong></a><strong>” by Russell T. Hurlburt and Sarah A. Akhter</strong></p>
<p><strong>“</strong><a href="https://www.sas.upenn.edu/~cavitch/pdf-library/Nagel_Bat.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>What Is It Like to Be a Bat?</strong></a><strong>” by Thomas Nagel</strong></p>
<p><a href="https://wwnorton.com/books/9780393542011" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>The Hidden Spring</strong></a><strong> by Mark Solms</strong></p>
<p><a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/297609/descartes-error-by-antonio-damasio/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>Descartes’ Error</strong></a><strong> by Antonio Damasio</strong></p>
<p><strong>“</strong><a href="https://academic.oup.com/edited-volume/38694?login=true" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>The Oxford Handbook of Spontaneous Thought</strong></a><strong>” by Kalina Christoff and Kieran C. R. Fox</strong></p>
<p>Book Recommendations:</p>
<p><a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262048804/the-blind-spot/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>The Blind Spot</strong></a><strong> by Adam Frank, Marcelo Gleiser and Evan Thompson</strong></p>
<p><a href="https://www.galleybeggar.co.uk/paperback-shop/ritegxpqvavi286gp91sd0he23hzx4" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>Ducks, Newburyport</strong></a><strong> by Lucy Ellmann</strong></p>
<p><a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/566315/being-you-by-anil-seth/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>Being You</strong></a><strong> by Anil Seth</strong></p>
<p>You can find transcripts and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/column/ezra-klein-podcast" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast</strong></a>, and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs</strong></a>.</p>
<p>This episode of “The Ezra Klein Show” was produced by Kristin Lin. Fact-checking by Kim Freda. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld, with additional mixing by Aman Sahota and Isaac Jones. Our executive producer is Claire Gordon. The show’s production team also includes Marie Cascione, Annie Galvin, Michelle Harris, Rollin Hu, Emma Kehlbeck, Jack McCordick, Marina King and Jan Kobal. Original music by Pat McCusker. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The director of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser.</p>
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<p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <link>https://www.nytimes.com/column/book-review-podcast</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today we are delighted to share an episode from our colleagues on “The Ezra Klein Show,” originally published on March 31. Ezra interviewed author Michael Pollan, whose best-selling books include “The Omnivore’s Dilemma,” “In Defense of Food,” and “How to Change Your Mind.” Pollan’s latest book, <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/646644/a-world-appears-by-michael-pollan/" rel="noopener noreferrer">“A World Appears: A Journey Into Consciousness,”</a> came out earlier this year. It’s an exploration of what consciousness is, and the book is — as <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/27/books/review/a-world-appears-michael-pollan.html" rel="noopener noreferrer">our review</a> put it — “highly pleasurable to read.”</p>
<p>Mentioned in the episode:</p>
<p><strong>“</strong><a href="https://www.hurlburt.faculty.unlv.edu/hurlburt-akhter-2006.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>The Descriptive Experience Sampling method</strong></a><strong>” by Russell T. Hurlburt and Sarah A. Akhter</strong></p>
<p><strong>“</strong><a href="https://www.sas.upenn.edu/~cavitch/pdf-library/Nagel_Bat.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>What Is It Like to Be a Bat?</strong></a><strong>” by Thomas Nagel</strong></p>
<p><a href="https://wwnorton.com/books/9780393542011" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>The Hidden Spring</strong></a><strong> by Mark Solms</strong></p>
<p><a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/297609/descartes-error-by-antonio-damasio/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>Descartes’ Error</strong></a><strong> by Antonio Damasio</strong></p>
<p><strong>“</strong><a href="https://academic.oup.com/edited-volume/38694?login=true" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>The Oxford Handbook of Spontaneous Thought</strong></a><strong>” by Kalina Christoff and Kieran C. R. Fox</strong></p>
<p>Book Recommendations:</p>
<p><a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262048804/the-blind-spot/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>The Blind Spot</strong></a><strong> by Adam Frank, Marcelo Gleiser and Evan Thompson</strong></p>
<p><a href="https://www.galleybeggar.co.uk/paperback-shop/ritegxpqvavi286gp91sd0he23hzx4" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>Ducks, Newburyport</strong></a><strong> by Lucy Ellmann</strong></p>
<p><a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/566315/being-you-by-anil-seth/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>Being You</strong></a><strong> by Anil Seth</strong></p>
<p>You can find transcripts and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/column/ezra-klein-podcast" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast</strong></a>, and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs</strong></a>.</p>
<p>This episode of “The Ezra Klein Show” was produced by Kristin Lin. Fact-checking by Kim Freda. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld, with additional mixing by Aman Sahota and Isaac Jones. Our executive producer is Claire Gordon. The show’s production team also includes Marie Cascione, Annie Galvin, Michelle Harris, Rollin Hu, Emma Kehlbeck, Jack McCordick, Marina King and Jan Kobal. Original music by Pat McCusker. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The director of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser.</p>
<p><strong>Listen to and Follow the “Book Review” Podcast</strong></p>
<p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-book-review/id120315179?mt=2" rel="noopener noreferrer">Apple Podcasts</a> |<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/1q3tsOS9XhqgSslnyZyKV6" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Spotify</a> |<a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/d9314635-147c-409a-ae6a-fdf8358caee5/the-book-review" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Amazon Music</a> |<a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdMrbgYfVl-vT4J7V1XT3MD5GCSebQJay" rel="noopener noreferrer"> YouTube</a> |<a href="https://www.iheart.com/podcast/326-the-book-review-28076603/" rel="noopener noreferrer"> iHeartRadio</a></p>
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<p><i>We would love to hear your thoughts about this episode, and about the Book Review’s podcast in general. You can send them to </i><a href="mailto:thebookreview@nytimes.com" rel="noopener noreferrer"><i>thebookreview@nytimes.com</i></a><i>.</i></p>
<p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>Today we are delighted to share an episode from our colleagues on “The Ezra Klein Show,” originally published on March 31. Ezra interviewed author Michael Pollan, whose best-selling books include “The Omnivore’s Dilemma,” “In Defense of Food,” and “How to Change Your Mind.” Pollan’s latest book, “A World Appears: A Journey Into Consciousness,” came out earlier this year. It’s an exploration of what consciousness is, and the book is — as our review put it — “highly pleasurable to read.” </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Today we are delighted to share an episode from our colleagues on “The Ezra Klein Show,” originally published on March 31. Ezra interviewed author Michael Pollan, whose best-selling books include “The Omnivore’s Dilemma,” “In Defense of Food,” and “How to Change Your Mind.” Pollan’s latest book, “A World Appears: A Journey Into Consciousness,” came out earlier this year. It’s an exploration of what consciousness is, and the book is — as our review put it — “highly pleasurable to read.” </itunes:subtitle>
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