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      <title>Episode #26: JB Flinders on Sneakers</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>JB Flinders – omnitechnologist, fellow Ute, and co-host of the <a href="https://pod.link/1810839731" rel="noopener noreferrer">Andy and Ammon's Excellent Odyssey podcast</a>: joins us to discuss the 1993 film <i>Sneakers</i>. We discuss data as the primary seat of power, the ethics of privacy protection work, panopticons, Heidegger's "standing reserve," fear as the driver behind nearly every decision in the film (and in life), and what Martin Bishop means when he says "There's nobody there."</p>
<p>This was a continuation of conversations JB and I have had for 30 years. What a joy.</p>
<h3>Show notes:</h3>
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 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sneakers_(1992_film)" rel="noopener noreferrer"><i>Sneakers</i> on Wikipedia</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Alden_Robinson" rel="noopener noreferrer">Phil Alden Robinson</a>: director and co-writer of <i>Sneakers</i>, also directed <i>Field of Dreams</i></li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enemy_of_the_State_(film)" rel="noopener noreferrer"><i>Enemy of the State</i></a>: part of what JB calls the "Sneakers bundle" of surveillance films from the 70s–90s worth watching together</li>
 <li><a href="https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/heidegger/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Martin Heidegger on Technology</a>: JB draws on Heidegger's concept of "standing reserve": the danger that technology causes everything, including people, to appear as something to be optimized and used</li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discipline_and_Punish" rel="noopener noreferrer"><i>Discipline and Punish</i> by Michel Foucault</a>: Foucault's analysis of the Panopticon as a model for how surveillance modifies behavior without requiring active observation</li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_(psychology)" rel="noopener noreferrer"><i>Flow</i> by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi</a>: "Because attention determines what will or will not appear in consciousness, and because it is also required to make other mental events - such as remembering, thinking, feeling, and making decisions - happen there, it is useful to think of it as psychic energy. Attention is like energy in that without it no work can be done, and in doing work it is dissipated. We create ourselves by how we invest this energy. Memories, thoughts, and feelings are all shaped by how we use it. And it is an energy under our control, to do with as we please; hence, attention is our most important tool in the task of improving the quality of experience."</li>
 <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGdWZgMUG-M" rel="noopener noreferrer">"Love and Serve Where You Stand"</a> a beautiful sermon by <a href="https://ankurdelight.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">Ankur Shah Delight</a> in which he explains how despair is used as a tool of control, and how to fight it.</li>
 <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/27/technology/ebay-silicon-valley-security-reputation.html" rel="noopener noreferrer">The eBay security team harassment campaign</a>: NYT article on the eBay employees who sent live roaches, a bloody pig mask, and more to a couple who ran a niche e-commerce newsletter. Reads like a Coen Brothers movie.</li>
</ul>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></description>
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<p>This was a continuation of conversations JB and I have had for 30 years. What a joy.</p>
<h3>Show notes:</h3>
<ul>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sneakers_(1992_film)" rel="noopener noreferrer"><i>Sneakers</i> on Wikipedia</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Alden_Robinson" rel="noopener noreferrer">Phil Alden Robinson</a>: director and co-writer of <i>Sneakers</i>, also directed <i>Field of Dreams</i></li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enemy_of_the_State_(film)" rel="noopener noreferrer"><i>Enemy of the State</i></a>: part of what JB calls the "Sneakers bundle" of surveillance films from the 70s–90s worth watching together</li>
 <li><a href="https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/heidegger/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Martin Heidegger on Technology</a>: JB draws on Heidegger's concept of "standing reserve": the danger that technology causes everything, including people, to appear as something to be optimized and used</li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discipline_and_Punish" rel="noopener noreferrer"><i>Discipline and Punish</i> by Michel Foucault</a>: Foucault's analysis of the Panopticon as a model for how surveillance modifies behavior without requiring active observation</li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_(psychology)" rel="noopener noreferrer"><i>Flow</i> by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi</a>: "Because attention determines what will or will not appear in consciousness, and because it is also required to make other mental events - such as remembering, thinking, feeling, and making decisions - happen there, it is useful to think of it as psychic energy. Attention is like energy in that without it no work can be done, and in doing work it is dissipated. We create ourselves by how we invest this energy. Memories, thoughts, and feelings are all shaped by how we use it. And it is an energy under our control, to do with as we please; hence, attention is our most important tool in the task of improving the quality of experience."</li>
 <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGdWZgMUG-M" rel="noopener noreferrer">"Love and Serve Where You Stand"</a> a beautiful sermon by <a href="https://ankurdelight.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">Ankur Shah Delight</a> in which he explains how despair is used as a tool of control, and how to fight it.</li>
 <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/27/technology/ebay-silicon-valley-security-reputation.html" rel="noopener noreferrer">The eBay security team harassment campaign</a>: NYT article on the eBay employees who sent live roaches, a bloody pig mask, and more to a couple who ran a niche e-commerce newsletter. Reads like a Coen Brothers movie.</li>
</ul>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://untanglingsystems.io" rel="noopener noreferrer">Kate Chapman</a>, geographer and technologist, joins us to discuss Hugh Howey's <i>Wool</i>. We discuss failures of governance, the perils of IT supremacy, the difficult ethics of constrained environments, and competitive goating.</p>
<p>Kate shares her background building digital public infrastructure (<a href="https://www.commonspace.world" rel="noopener noreferrer">Common Space</a>, <a href="https://www.wikipedia.org" rel="noopener noreferrer">Wikipedia</a>, <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer">OpenStreetMap</a>, <a href="https://opensupplyhub.org" rel="noopener noreferrer">Open Supply Hub</a>) and currently providing fractional CTO work and AI enablement. We discuss how <i>Wool</i> serves as a cautionary tale about bad governance, the intersection of information control and governance, and what happens when humans can't push boundaries or explore frontiers.</p>
<h3>Show notes:</h3>
<ul>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silo_(series)" rel="noopener noreferrer"><i>Wool</i> by Hugh Howey</a> - Originally published as five novellas, later compiled as the <i>Wool Omnibus</i></li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lottery" rel="noopener noreferrer">"The Lottery" by Shirley Jackson</a> - Short story about the dangers of blindly following tradition</li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Lie_with_Maps" rel="noopener noreferrer"><i>How to Lie with Maps</i> by Mark Monmonier</a> - Classic book on cartographic manipulation</li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolent_Communication" rel="noopener noreferrer">Nonviolent Communication</a> - Framework for conflict resolution</li>
 <li><a href="https://feelingsand.co/podcasts/thanks-for-asking/" rel="noopener noreferrer"><i>Terrible, Thanks for Asking</i> (now <i>Thanks for Asking</i>)</a> - Kate's favorite podcast</li>
 <li><a href="https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-or-the-office-according-to-the-office/" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Gervais Principle, Or The Office According to “The Office”</a> - Fantastic analysis of how The Office portrays social dynamics</li>
 <li><a href="https://thereader.mitpress.mit.edu/five-jokes-slavoj-zizek/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Slavoj Žižek's red ink joke</a>:
  <ul>
   <li>"In an old joke from the defunct German Democratic Republic, a German worker gets a job in Siberia; aware of how all mail will be read by censors, he tells his friends: “Let’s establish a code: if a letter you will get from me is written in ordinary blue ink, it is true; if it is written in red ink, it is false.” After a month, his friends get the first letter, written in blue ink: “Everything is wonderful here: stores are full, food is abundant, apartments are large and properly heated, movie theaters show films from the West, there are many beautiful girls ready for an affair — the only thing unavailable is red ink.”"</li>
  </ul></li>
</ul>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2026 20:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jed@techsontexts.net (Jed Sundwall, Kate Chapman)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://untanglingsystems.io" rel="noopener noreferrer">Kate Chapman</a>, geographer and technologist, joins us to discuss Hugh Howey's <i>Wool</i>. We discuss failures of governance, the perils of IT supremacy, the difficult ethics of constrained environments, and competitive goating.</p>
<p>Kate shares her background building digital public infrastructure (<a href="https://www.commonspace.world" rel="noopener noreferrer">Common Space</a>, <a href="https://www.wikipedia.org" rel="noopener noreferrer">Wikipedia</a>, <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer">OpenStreetMap</a>, <a href="https://opensupplyhub.org" rel="noopener noreferrer">Open Supply Hub</a>) and currently providing fractional CTO work and AI enablement. We discuss how <i>Wool</i> serves as a cautionary tale about bad governance, the intersection of information control and governance, and what happens when humans can't push boundaries or explore frontiers.</p>
<h3>Show notes:</h3>
<ul>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silo_(series)" rel="noopener noreferrer"><i>Wool</i> by Hugh Howey</a> - Originally published as five novellas, later compiled as the <i>Wool Omnibus</i></li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lottery" rel="noopener noreferrer">"The Lottery" by Shirley Jackson</a> - Short story about the dangers of blindly following tradition</li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Lie_with_Maps" rel="noopener noreferrer"><i>How to Lie with Maps</i> by Mark Monmonier</a> - Classic book on cartographic manipulation</li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolent_Communication" rel="noopener noreferrer">Nonviolent Communication</a> - Framework for conflict resolution</li>
 <li><a href="https://feelingsand.co/podcasts/thanks-for-asking/" rel="noopener noreferrer"><i>Terrible, Thanks for Asking</i> (now <i>Thanks for Asking</i>)</a> - Kate's favorite podcast</li>
 <li><a href="https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-or-the-office-according-to-the-office/" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Gervais Principle, Or The Office According to “The Office”</a> - Fantastic analysis of how The Office portrays social dynamics</li>
 <li><a href="https://thereader.mitpress.mit.edu/five-jokes-slavoj-zizek/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Slavoj Žižek's red ink joke</a>:
  <ul>
   <li>"In an old joke from the defunct German Democratic Republic, a German worker gets a job in Siberia; aware of how all mail will be read by censors, he tells his friends: “Let’s establish a code: if a letter you will get from me is written in ordinary blue ink, it is true; if it is written in red ink, it is false.” After a month, his friends get the first letter, written in blue ink: “Everything is wonderful here: stores are full, food is abundant, apartments are large and properly heated, movie theaters show films from the West, there are many beautiful girls ready for an affair — the only thing unavailable is red ink.”"</li>
  </ul></li>
</ul>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Episode #24: Kevin Bullock on Pluribus by Vince Gilligan</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevbullock/">Kevin Bullock</a> joins us to discuss the sublime first season of Vince Gilligan's <i>Pluribus</i>. Yes, TV is a "text," especially when Vince Gilligan is making it. We talk about individual morality, the ethics of science, AI, human nature, selfhood and memory, and ghosts. Inexplicably, we do <i>not</i> talk about HDP. </p><h3>Show notes:</h3><ul><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pluribus_(TV_series)"><i>Pluribus</i> on Wikipedia</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vince_Gilligan">Vince Gilligan</a></li><li><a href="https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/andrej-karpathy">Andrej Karpathy on Dwarkesh Podcast</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/posts/kevbullock_for-the-tv-show-pluribus-rather-than-dealing-activity-7413007931857825792-zYej/">Satellite views of Carol's cul de sac</a> - Kevin's fantastic post on LinkedIn.</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-cV_w6k7lg">The insane rig built to film Carol's drive in the unicorn truck</a></li><li><a href="https://techsontexts.net/episodes/2025/03/clarke-george-dyson/">George Dyson on <i>Childhood's End</i></a> - Techs on Texts Episode #14</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jElVaVkcjc">¡Chinga tu madre, <i>quebrón</i>!</a> (sic)</li></ul><h3>Also:</h3><ul><li>Listen to <a href="https://greatdataproducts.com">Great Data Products</a></li><li>Get your tickets to <a href="https://2026.cloudnativegeo.org">CNG Forum</a></li></ul>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2026 22:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jed@techsontexts.net (Jed Sundwall, Kevin Bullock)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevbullock/">Kevin Bullock</a> joins us to discuss the sublime first season of Vince Gilligan's <i>Pluribus</i>. Yes, TV is a "text," especially when Vince Gilligan is making it. We talk about individual morality, the ethics of science, AI, human nature, selfhood and memory, and ghosts. Inexplicably, we do <i>not</i> talk about HDP. </p><h3>Show notes:</h3><ul><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pluribus_(TV_series)"><i>Pluribus</i> on Wikipedia</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vince_Gilligan">Vince Gilligan</a></li><li><a href="https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/andrej-karpathy">Andrej Karpathy on Dwarkesh Podcast</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/posts/kevbullock_for-the-tv-show-pluribus-rather-than-dealing-activity-7413007931857825792-zYej/">Satellite views of Carol's cul de sac</a> - Kevin's fantastic post on LinkedIn.</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-cV_w6k7lg">The insane rig built to film Carol's drive in the unicorn truck</a></li><li><a href="https://techsontexts.net/episodes/2025/03/clarke-george-dyson/">George Dyson on <i>Childhood's End</i></a> - Techs on Texts Episode #14</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jElVaVkcjc">¡Chinga tu madre, <i>quebrón</i>!</a> (sic)</li></ul><h3>Also:</h3><ul><li>Listen to <a href="https://greatdataproducts.com">Great Data Products</a></li><li>Get your tickets to <a href="https://2026.cloudnativegeo.org">CNG Forum</a></li></ul>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Episode #23: Cyd Harrell on “Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius” by Jorge Luis Borges</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://bsky.app/profile/cydharrell.bsky.social">Cyd Harrell</a>, devout civic technologist, joins us to discuss Jorge Luis Borges's "Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius." We talk about tungsten cubes, techno cults, and our guesses about the "horrifying or banal" truth revealed by the story.</p><h3>Show notes:</h3><ul><li>Buy Cyd's book! <a href="https://cydharrell.com/book/"><i>A Civic Technologist's Practice Guide</i></a> (<a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/a-civic-technologist-s-practice-guide-cyd-harrell/079c3ac3e02d0c5f">Bookshop.org</a>, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Civic-Technologists-Practice-Guide-ebook/dp/B08GZWMGMQ">Amazon</a>)</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tl%C3%B6n,_Uqbar,_Orbis_Tertius">"Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius" on Wikipedia</a></li><li><a href="http://faculty.las.illinois.edu/rrushing/242/ewExternalFiles/Borges.pdf">"Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius" PDF</a></li><li><a href="https://verybadwizards.com/episode/episode-154-metaphysical-vertigo-borgess-tlon-uqbar-orbis-tertius">Discussion of Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius on Very Bad Wizards</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pringles#Logo_and_mascot">Julius Pringles</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_fog#In_popular_culture">Karl the fog</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosicrucianism">Rosicrucianism</a></li><li><a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11799832/">Crisis Text Line and Loris.ai Controversy</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picigin">Picigin</a>: an amateur sport from Split, Croatia played in shoals or other shallow water, usually consisting of cooperating players keeping a small ball from falling in the water.</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE3OuHukrmQ">"Pets"</a> by Porno for Pyros</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality-based_community">Reality-based community</a></li><li><a href="https://radiant.earth/blog/2025/11/great-data-products/">Great Data Products blog post</a> - blog post based on the talk I gave in October in which I warn against open data dogmas.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duodecimal">The duodecimal system</a></li><li><a href="https://www.xulsolar.org.ar/img/coleccion/50-16-Pan%20Arbol.jpg">A painting called Pan Arbol referencing the duodecimal system</a> by Borges's friend <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xul_Solar">Xul Solar</a>, who is mentioned in Andrew Hurley's translation of the story as a translator of Tlön's language.</li><li><a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/when-republicans-became-red-democrats-became-blue-104176297/">When Republicans Became ‘Red’ and Democrats Became ‘Blue’</a></li></ul>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2025 20:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://bsky.app/profile/cydharrell.bsky.social">Cyd Harrell</a>, devout civic technologist, joins us to discuss Jorge Luis Borges's "Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius." We talk about tungsten cubes, techno cults, and our guesses about the "horrifying or banal" truth revealed by the story.</p><h3>Show notes:</h3><ul><li>Buy Cyd's book! <a href="https://cydharrell.com/book/"><i>A Civic Technologist's Practice Guide</i></a> (<a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/a-civic-technologist-s-practice-guide-cyd-harrell/079c3ac3e02d0c5f">Bookshop.org</a>, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Civic-Technologists-Practice-Guide-ebook/dp/B08GZWMGMQ">Amazon</a>)</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tl%C3%B6n,_Uqbar,_Orbis_Tertius">"Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius" on Wikipedia</a></li><li><a href="http://faculty.las.illinois.edu/rrushing/242/ewExternalFiles/Borges.pdf">"Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius" PDF</a></li><li><a href="https://verybadwizards.com/episode/episode-154-metaphysical-vertigo-borgess-tlon-uqbar-orbis-tertius">Discussion of Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius on Very Bad Wizards</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pringles#Logo_and_mascot">Julius Pringles</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_fog#In_popular_culture">Karl the fog</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosicrucianism">Rosicrucianism</a></li><li><a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11799832/">Crisis Text Line and Loris.ai Controversy</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picigin">Picigin</a>: an amateur sport from Split, Croatia played in shoals or other shallow water, usually consisting of cooperating players keeping a small ball from falling in the water.</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE3OuHukrmQ">"Pets"</a> by Porno for Pyros</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality-based_community">Reality-based community</a></li><li><a href="https://radiant.earth/blog/2025/11/great-data-products/">Great Data Products blog post</a> - blog post based on the talk I gave in October in which I warn against open data dogmas.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duodecimal">The duodecimal system</a></li><li><a href="https://www.xulsolar.org.ar/img/coleccion/50-16-Pan%20Arbol.jpg">A painting called Pan Arbol referencing the duodecimal system</a> by Borges's friend <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xul_Solar">Xul Solar</a>, who is mentioned in Andrew Hurley's translation of the story as a translator of Tlön's language.</li><li><a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/when-republicans-became-red-democrats-became-blue-104176297/">When Republicans Became ‘Red’ and Democrats Became ‘Blue’</a></li></ul>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Episode #22: Marta Regn on “Anxiety Is the Dizziness of Freedom” by Ted Chiang</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<ul><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anxiety_Is_the_Dizziness_of_Freedom">"Anxiety Is the Dizziness of Freedom" on Wikipedia</a> - note the fan art book cover</li><li>Read <a href="https://onezero.medium.com/anxiety-is-the-dizziness-of-freedom-b5ab45cae2a5">"Anxiety Is the Dizziness of Freedom" on Medium</a></li><li>Or buy <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exhalation:_Stories"><i>Exhalation: Stories</i></a>, the collection containing this story</li><li><a href="https://dynamical.org/podcast/">The Weathering Podcast</a> – More discussions of Earth systems, chaos, and the meaning of life from Marta, Marshall, and Alden</li><li><a href="https://bookpickings.themarginalian.org/post/53481318485/the-concept-of-anxiety-soren-kierkegaard">Kierkegaard's <i>The Concept of Anxiety</i> on The Marginalian</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoner_(novel)"><i>Stoner</i> by John Williams</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@noway_recordings">No Way Recordings on YouTube</a></li></ul><p>More show notes at <a href="https://techsontexts.net/episodes/2025/11/chiang-marta-regn/">https://techsontexts.net/episodes/2025/11/chiang-marta-regn/</a></p><p>Next month, we'll talk about "Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius" by Jorge Luis Borges.</p>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2025 18:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jed@techsontexts.net (Marta Regn, Jed Sundwall)</author>
      <link>https://techsontexts.net/episodes/2025/11/chiang-marta-regn/</link>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<ul><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anxiety_Is_the_Dizziness_of_Freedom">"Anxiety Is the Dizziness of Freedom" on Wikipedia</a> - note the fan art book cover</li><li>Read <a href="https://onezero.medium.com/anxiety-is-the-dizziness-of-freedom-b5ab45cae2a5">"Anxiety Is the Dizziness of Freedom" on Medium</a></li><li>Or buy <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exhalation:_Stories"><i>Exhalation: Stories</i></a>, the collection containing this story</li><li><a href="https://dynamical.org/podcast/">The Weathering Podcast</a> – More discussions of Earth systems, chaos, and the meaning of life from Marta, Marshall, and Alden</li><li><a href="https://bookpickings.themarginalian.org/post/53481318485/the-concept-of-anxiety-soren-kierkegaard">Kierkegaard's <i>The Concept of Anxiety</i> on The Marginalian</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoner_(novel)"><i>Stoner</i> by John Williams</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@noway_recordings">No Way Recordings on YouTube</a></li></ul><p>More show notes at <a href="https://techsontexts.net/episodes/2025/11/chiang-marta-regn/">https://techsontexts.net/episodes/2025/11/chiang-marta-regn/</a></p><p>Next month, we'll talk about "Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius" by Jorge Luis Borges.</p>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Episode #21: George Dyson on The Black Cloud by Fred Hoyle</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Dyson_(science_historian)">George Dyson</a> – historian, boat maker, and volunteer Staff Historian at <a href="https://radiant.earth">Radiant Earth</a> – returns to discuss Fred Hoyle's <i>The Black Cloud</i>. We discuss the cultural conflicts that arise between scientists and politicians, the limits of human language, human-incomprehensible modes of communication, the inevitable benefits of creating new observing instruments, alien consciousness, and the perils of simplified science.</p><p>Show notes:</p><ul><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Cloud"><i>The Black Cloud</i> on Wikipedia</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Hoyle">Fred Hoyle on Wikipedia</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMHQ2y0bgCE&t=38s">George's keynote at Radiant Earth's Expanding and Accelerating Global Climate Data Collaboration workshop on 14 October 2025</a></li><li><a href="https://doi.org/10.1016/j.pbiomolbio.2018.03.004">Cause of Cambrian Explosion - Terrestrial or Cosmic?</a> – as mentioned by George, the paper exploring extraterrestrial origins of life on Earth, co-authored by Hoyle's student and collaborator <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandra_Wickramasinghe">Chandra Wickramasinghe</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/George-Dyson/author/B004LQA05E?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&qid=1761929660&sr=1-1&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true&ccs_id=a6a341c4-0f34-4a2b-8948-fb2d0be7ae62">Buy George's books!</a></li></ul><p>Next month will be a discussion of Ted Chiang's "Anxiety Is the Dizziness of Freedom" with Marta Regn.</p>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2025 21:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Dyson_(science_historian)">George Dyson</a> – historian, boat maker, and volunteer Staff Historian at <a href="https://radiant.earth">Radiant Earth</a> – returns to discuss Fred Hoyle's <i>The Black Cloud</i>. We discuss the cultural conflicts that arise between scientists and politicians, the limits of human language, human-incomprehensible modes of communication, the inevitable benefits of creating new observing instruments, alien consciousness, and the perils of simplified science.</p><p>Show notes:</p><ul><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Cloud"><i>The Black Cloud</i> on Wikipedia</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Hoyle">Fred Hoyle on Wikipedia</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMHQ2y0bgCE&t=38s">George's keynote at Radiant Earth's Expanding and Accelerating Global Climate Data Collaboration workshop on 14 October 2025</a></li><li><a href="https://doi.org/10.1016/j.pbiomolbio.2018.03.004">Cause of Cambrian Explosion - Terrestrial or Cosmic?</a> – as mentioned by George, the paper exploring extraterrestrial origins of life on Earth, co-authored by Hoyle's student and collaborator <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandra_Wickramasinghe">Chandra Wickramasinghe</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/George-Dyson/author/B004LQA05E?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&qid=1761929660&sr=1-1&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true&ccs_id=a6a341c4-0f34-4a2b-8948-fb2d0be7ae62">Buy George's books!</a></li></ul><p>Next month will be a discussion of Ted Chiang's "Anxiety Is the Dizziness of Freedom" with Marta Regn.</p>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-chambers-71793854/">Mark Chambers</a> – my friend from high school (and former Chief Sustainability Officer of DC and NYC among other things) – joins us to discuss Michael Crichton's <i>Jurassic Park</i>. We talk about the collision between money and science, the illusion of control, dignity, public service, how many humans there should be, why it may or may not be ok to grill, and positive visions for the future.</p><p>Show notes:</p><ul><li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jevons_paradox">Jevons paradox</a> – how technological efficiency can paradoxically increase resource consumption</li><li><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/infinite-scroll/what-michael-crichton-reveals-about-big-tech-and-ai">What Michael Crichton Reveals About Big Tech and A.I.</a> - Cal Newport's New Yorker piece about <i>Jurassic Park</i></li><li><a href="https://dynamical.org/podcast/">The Weathering Podcast</a> – exploring Earth systems, climate, and chaos. I don't talk about it in the podcast, but I should because it's relevant and so great. I love it.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossal_Biosciences_Dire_Wolf_Project">Colossal Biosciences Dire Wolf Project (Wikipedia article)</a> – the real-world de-extinction effort</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_13th_Warrior"><i>The 13th Warrior</i></a> – A movie Mark loves that I still need to watch</li><li><a href="/episodes/2024/11/le-guin-mark-coatney/">Mark Coatney on <i>A Wizard of Earthsea</i></a> – our previous conversation about power and its pitfalls</li><li><a href="https://ew.com/music/2019/11/13/trent-reznor-wins-cma-award-old-town-road/">Nine Inch Nails wins Country Music Award for "Old Town Road"</a></li><li><a href="https://radiant.earth/blog/2025/06/internet-power/">Internet Power</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ministry_for_the_Future">The Ministry of the Future (Wikipedia article)</a> by Kim Stanley Robinson</li></ul><p>Next month (hopefully): <i>The Black Cloud</i> by Fred Hoyle with George Dyson.</p><p>Bonus announcements:</p><ul><li><a href="https://cloudnativegeo.org/events/cng-conference-2026/">CNG Conference 2026 announced for 6-9 October 2026</a></li><li>New work podcast: <a href="https://greatdataproducts.com">Great Data Products</a></li></ul>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2025 23:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-chambers-71793854/">Mark Chambers</a> – my friend from high school (and former Chief Sustainability Officer of DC and NYC among other things) – joins us to discuss Michael Crichton's <i>Jurassic Park</i>. We talk about the collision between money and science, the illusion of control, dignity, public service, how many humans there should be, why it may or may not be ok to grill, and positive visions for the future.</p><p>Show notes:</p><ul><li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jevons_paradox">Jevons paradox</a> – how technological efficiency can paradoxically increase resource consumption</li><li><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/infinite-scroll/what-michael-crichton-reveals-about-big-tech-and-ai">What Michael Crichton Reveals About Big Tech and A.I.</a> - Cal Newport's New Yorker piece about <i>Jurassic Park</i></li><li><a href="https://dynamical.org/podcast/">The Weathering Podcast</a> – exploring Earth systems, climate, and chaos. I don't talk about it in the podcast, but I should because it's relevant and so great. I love it.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossal_Biosciences_Dire_Wolf_Project">Colossal Biosciences Dire Wolf Project (Wikipedia article)</a> – the real-world de-extinction effort</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_13th_Warrior"><i>The 13th Warrior</i></a> – A movie Mark loves that I still need to watch</li><li><a href="/episodes/2024/11/le-guin-mark-coatney/">Mark Coatney on <i>A Wizard of Earthsea</i></a> – our previous conversation about power and its pitfalls</li><li><a href="https://ew.com/music/2019/11/13/trent-reznor-wins-cma-award-old-town-road/">Nine Inch Nails wins Country Music Award for "Old Town Road"</a></li><li><a href="https://radiant.earth/blog/2025/06/internet-power/">Internet Power</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ministry_for_the_Future">The Ministry of the Future (Wikipedia article)</a> by Kim Stanley Robinson</li></ul><p>Next month (hopefully): <i>The Black Cloud</i> by Fred Hoyle with George Dyson.</p><p>Bonus announcements:</p><ul><li><a href="https://cloudnativegeo.org/events/cng-conference-2026/">CNG Conference 2026 announced for 6-9 October 2026</a></li><li>New work podcast: <a href="https://greatdataproducts.com">Great Data Products</a></li></ul>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Matt Price – technology historian and dedicated educator – joins us to discuss Susanna Clarke's <i>Piranesi</i>. We talk about egos, ego death, cults, academia, Christianity, Buddhism, and psychedelics. No insights, only more questions.</p><p>Show notes:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.susannaclarke.com/">Susanna Clarke's official website</a></li><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/50202953-piranesi"><i>Piranesi</i> on Goodreads</a></li><li><a href="https://verybadwizards.com/episode/episode-255-beloved-child-of-the-house-susanna-clarkes-piranesi">Very Bad Wizards on <i>Piranesi</i></a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giovanni_Battista_Piranesi">Giovanni Battista Piranesi on Wikipedia</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giovanni_Battista_Piranesi"><i>Carceri d'invenzione</i></a>, Giovanni Battista Piranesi's "Imaginary Prisons"</li><li><a href="https://philosophy.fas.harvard.edu/publications/all-things-shining-reading-western-classics-find-meaning-secular-age"><i>All Things Shining</i></a>, the book I refer to as "Everything Shining" in the podcast</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Wolfe">Gene Wolfe</a>, who Ursula K. Le Guin referred to as "our Melville"</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleister_Crowley">Aleister Crowley</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodhisattva">Bodhisattva</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_history">Natural history</a></li><li>Various soundtracks to <i>Piranesi</i>:<ul><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNYh-A5_p18">"Everything Forgotten Flows"</a> by Priori</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3MTAt8tB5M">"Prati Bagnati Del Monte Analogo"</a> by Francesco Messina and Raul Lovisoni</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lbLq_i6F4coXuqc9lETOlMHhhcfSvCgSM"><i>In a Beautiful Place Out in the Country</i></a> by Boards of Canada</li></ul></li></ul><p>Next month, will be <i>Jurassic Park</i> (the movie <strong>and</strong> the book!) with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-chambers-71793854/">Mark Chambers</a>.</p>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2025 20:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jed@techsontexts.net (Matt Price, Jed Sundwall)</author>
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<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Episode #18:  Noah Iliinsky on China Mountain Zhang by Maureen F. McHugh</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Noah Iliinsky – most-esteemed information visualization expert, speaker and author – joins us to discuss Maureen F. McHugh's <i>China Mountain Zhang</i>. We talk about what matters, heavy furniture, sensible defaults, the burdens created by unnecessarily "innovative" design, pace layering, humans as instruments, and the double diamond bike.</p><p>Show notes:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.oreilly.com/pub/au/4419">Buy Noah's books!</a></li><li>Noah's very excellent Guaranteed Successful Design presentation: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2v9J_jGHtI">5-minute version</a>, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RujrvlqFNpM">45-minute version</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXNz9mP0-as">Noah's unassailable guidance on using a dishwasher</a></li><li><a href="https://longnow.org/ideas/pace-layers/">Pace Layers from Stuart Brand</a></li><li><a href="https://writing.colostate.edu/gallery/connor/doublediam.htm">The Double Diamond bike frame</a></li><li><a href="https://medium.com/@timoreilly/work-on-stuff-that-matters-first-principles-335646af32b9">Work on Stuff That Matters by Tim O'Reilly</a></li><li><a href="https://jrusten.com">Jared Rusten</a> – my woodworker of choice</li></ul><p>Next month, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewwprice/">Matt Price</a> will be on to talk about <i>Piranesi</i> by Susanna Clarke.</p><p>New Secret School album! <i>Enough? Remixes</i> on <a href="https://music.apple.com/us/album/enough-remixes/1826222190">Apple Music</a> and <a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/0cMxAJgrCPgNMoaXLOzSQl?si=LHuq7Ny4SqCb37kw_1N_kg">Spotify</a>.</p>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2025 19:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.derivativeworks.com">Daniel X. O'Neil</a>, the worldwide entertainment juggernaut of the 21st century, joins us to discuss T.S. Eliot's <i>The Waste Land</i>. You will learn almost nothing about <i>The Waste Land</i> from this discussion, but you <i>will</i> learn about poetry, modernism, truth, hypermedia, (the "end" of) America, and enjambment. </p><p>Show notes:</p><ul><li>[T.S. Eliot reads *The Waste Land* on YouTube](T.S. Eliot reads: The Waste Land)</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Waste_Land"><i>The Waste Land</i> on Wikipedia</a></li><li><a href="https://www.derivativeworks.com/category/hypertext-enjambment/">Hypertext enjambment</a></li><li><a href="https://thefieryfurnaces.bandcamp.com/album/blueberry-boat"><i>Blueberry Boat</i></a> by The Fiery Furnaces</li><li>The truly great <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Malamud">Carl Malamud</a></li><li><a href="https://consortiumnews.com/2020/05/08/ray-mcgovern-once-we-were-allies-then-came-micimatt/">The Military-Industrial-Congressional-Intelligence-Media-Academia-Think-Tank complex</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Bxd-plf5ZU">Jack Dorsey talking about how dispatch systems influenced Twitter</a> (Dorsey, like Eliot is from St. Louis, as is <a href="https://techsontexts.net/episodes/2024/03/dune-jason-goldman/">past guest Jason Goldman</a> and Sam Altman)</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashomon"><i>Rashomon</i></a></li><li>My essay on <a href="https://radiant.earth/blog/2025/06/internet-power/">Internet Power</a> (thanks to Dan for pushing me over the edge to finally publish this)</li><li><a href="https://oa.letterformarchive.org/item?workID=lfa_emigre_0041&LFAPics=Yes&targPic=lfa_emigre_0041_031.jpg">Trut</a> from <a href="https://www.emigre.com/Magazine/41">Emigre Magazine #41</a></li><li><a href="https://coffeehousepress.org/products/the-nature-book"><i>The Nature Book</i></a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cahokia">Cahokia Mounds</a></li><li><a href="https://www.sup.org/books/politics/children-modest-star"><i>Children of a Modest Star</i></a> by Jonathan S. Blake and Nils Gilman for all those interested in the limitations of the nation stata</li><li><a href="https://hmpg.net">The end of the Internet</a></li></ul><p>Always remember:</p><blockquote><p>There's no such thing as life without bloodshed. I think the notion that the species can be improved in some way, that everyone could live in harmony, is a really dangerous idea. Those who are afflicted with this notion are the first ones to give up their souls, their freedom. Your desire that it be that way will enslave you and make your life vacuous.  </p></blockquote><p>— <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1992/04/19/magazine/cormac-mccarthy-s-venomous-fiction.html">Cormac McCarthy</a> 💖</p><p>Next month we'll be talking with <a href="https://www.oreilly.com/pub/au/4419">Noah Ilinsky</a> about <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Mountain_Zhang"><i>China Mountain Zhang</i></a> by Maureen F. McHugh.</p>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.derivativeworks.com">Daniel X. O'Neil</a>, the worldwide entertainment juggernaut of the 21st century, joins us to discuss T.S. Eliot's <i>The Waste Land</i>. You will learn almost nothing about <i>The Waste Land</i> from this discussion, but you <i>will</i> learn about poetry, modernism, truth, hypermedia, (the "end" of) America, and enjambment. </p><p>Show notes:</p><ul><li>[T.S. Eliot reads *The Waste Land* on YouTube](T.S. Eliot reads: The Waste Land)</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Waste_Land"><i>The Waste Land</i> on Wikipedia</a></li><li><a href="https://www.derivativeworks.com/category/hypertext-enjambment/">Hypertext enjambment</a></li><li><a href="https://thefieryfurnaces.bandcamp.com/album/blueberry-boat"><i>Blueberry Boat</i></a> by The Fiery Furnaces</li><li>The truly great <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Malamud">Carl Malamud</a></li><li><a href="https://consortiumnews.com/2020/05/08/ray-mcgovern-once-we-were-allies-then-came-micimatt/">The Military-Industrial-Congressional-Intelligence-Media-Academia-Think-Tank complex</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Bxd-plf5ZU">Jack Dorsey talking about how dispatch systems influenced Twitter</a> (Dorsey, like Eliot is from St. Louis, as is <a href="https://techsontexts.net/episodes/2024/03/dune-jason-goldman/">past guest Jason Goldman</a> and Sam Altman)</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashomon"><i>Rashomon</i></a></li><li>My essay on <a href="https://radiant.earth/blog/2025/06/internet-power/">Internet Power</a> (thanks to Dan for pushing me over the edge to finally publish this)</li><li><a href="https://oa.letterformarchive.org/item?workID=lfa_emigre_0041&LFAPics=Yes&targPic=lfa_emigre_0041_031.jpg">Trut</a> from <a href="https://www.emigre.com/Magazine/41">Emigre Magazine #41</a></li><li><a href="https://coffeehousepress.org/products/the-nature-book"><i>The Nature Book</i></a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cahokia">Cahokia Mounds</a></li><li><a href="https://www.sup.org/books/politics/children-modest-star"><i>Children of a Modest Star</i></a> by Jonathan S. Blake and Nils Gilman for all those interested in the limitations of the nation stata</li><li><a href="https://hmpg.net">The end of the Internet</a></li></ul><p>Always remember:</p><blockquote><p>There's no such thing as life without bloodshed. I think the notion that the species can be improved in some way, that everyone could live in harmony, is a really dangerous idea. Those who are afflicted with this notion are the first ones to give up their souls, their freedom. Your desire that it be that way will enslave you and make your life vacuous.  </p></blockquote><p>— <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1992/04/19/magazine/cormac-mccarthy-s-venomous-fiction.html">Cormac McCarthy</a> 💖</p><p>Next month we'll be talking with <a href="https://www.oreilly.com/pub/au/4419">Noah Ilinsky</a> about <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Mountain_Zhang"><i>China Mountain Zhang</i></a> by Maureen F. McHugh.</p>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://alex.merose.com">Alex Merose</a> extols the virtues of lazy action and calls on us to embrace Duchamp into our hearts through discussion of Sayaka Murata's <i>Convenience Store Woman</i> and Maurizio Lazzarato's essay "Marcel Duchamp and the Refusal of Work." We explore themes of conformity, work, resistance, lazy action, and whether or not Duchamp was right that "language was a mistake."</p><p>Shout out to <a href="https://www.mindsbehindmaps.com/about">Maxime Lenormand</a> for production assistance.</p><p>Many show notes!</p><ul><li><a href="https://alex.merose.com">Alex Merose's website</a></li><li><i>Convenience Store Woman</i> by Sayaka Murata</li><li><a href="https://wahc-museum.ca/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Alejandro-Tamayo-Readings.pdf">Marcel Duchamp and the Refusal of Work</a> by Maurizio Lazzarato</li><li><a href="https://www.tate.org.uk/art/artworks/duchamp-coffee-mill-t03253">Coffee Mill</a> - Marcel Duchamp's 1911 painting at the Tate</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulacra_and_Simulation">Baudrillard's Simulacra and Simulation</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporwave">Vaporwave</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heraclitus">Heraclitus the obscure</a></li><li><a href="https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/david-reich">David Reich on the Dwarkesh Podcast</a> - discussing genetics and human history, including some theories about the emergence of language</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_on_a_winter%27s_night_a_traveler"><i>If on a winter's night a traveler</i></a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA9ZvXOnPZ0">Opening keynote from CNG Conference 2025</a></li></ul><p>Many thanks to Alex for sending these references:</p><ul><li><a href="https://medium.com/the-no%C3%B6sphere/how-food-played-a-role-in-the-rise-of-patriarchy-70cbe57172ab">How Food Played a Role in the Rise of Patriarchy</a></li><li><a href="https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/nagarjuna/">Nagarjuna (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)</a></li><li>Alex's photos of Art by and inspired by Marcel Duchamp from the <a href="https://photos.app.goo.gl/m1weLubXY6kuXRNu6">National Museum for Modern and Contemporary Art in Seoul</a></li><li>Alex's photos of Duchamp's works mentioned in the Lazzarato paper from the <a href="https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B2KG4TcsmGmIxHL">Museum of Modern Art in NYC</a> - </li><li><a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/599857/work-by-james-suzman/"><i>Work: A Deep History</i></a> by James Suzman</li><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/1PY8vvghrZB5R90tv2UT9Q?si=kj06Ed38Qj6IjxMuEIyQzQ">Work podcast on Spotify</a></li></ul>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2025 21:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://alex.merose.com">Alex Merose</a> extols the virtues of lazy action and calls on us to embrace Duchamp into our hearts through discussion of Sayaka Murata's <i>Convenience Store Woman</i> and Maurizio Lazzarato's essay "Marcel Duchamp and the Refusal of Work." We explore themes of conformity, work, resistance, lazy action, and whether or not Duchamp was right that "language was a mistake."</p><p>Shout out to <a href="https://www.mindsbehindmaps.com/about">Maxime Lenormand</a> for production assistance.</p><p>Many show notes!</p><ul><li><a href="https://alex.merose.com">Alex Merose's website</a></li><li><i>Convenience Store Woman</i> by Sayaka Murata</li><li><a href="https://wahc-museum.ca/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Alejandro-Tamayo-Readings.pdf">Marcel Duchamp and the Refusal of Work</a> by Maurizio Lazzarato</li><li><a href="https://www.tate.org.uk/art/artworks/duchamp-coffee-mill-t03253">Coffee Mill</a> - Marcel Duchamp's 1911 painting at the Tate</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulacra_and_Simulation">Baudrillard's Simulacra and Simulation</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporwave">Vaporwave</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heraclitus">Heraclitus the obscure</a></li><li><a href="https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/david-reich">David Reich on the Dwarkesh Podcast</a> - discussing genetics and human history, including some theories about the emergence of language</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_on_a_winter%27s_night_a_traveler"><i>If on a winter's night a traveler</i></a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA9ZvXOnPZ0">Opening keynote from CNG Conference 2025</a></li></ul><p>Many thanks to Alex for sending these references:</p><ul><li><a href="https://medium.com/the-no%C3%B6sphere/how-food-played-a-role-in-the-rise-of-patriarchy-70cbe57172ab">How Food Played a Role in the Rise of Patriarchy</a></li><li><a href="https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/nagarjuna/">Nagarjuna (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)</a></li><li>Alex's photos of Art by and inspired by Marcel Duchamp from the <a href="https://photos.app.goo.gl/m1weLubXY6kuXRNu6">National Museum for Modern and Contemporary Art in Seoul</a></li><li>Alex's photos of Duchamp's works mentioned in the Lazzarato paper from the <a href="https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B2KG4TcsmGmIxHL">Museum of Modern Art in NYC</a> - </li><li><a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/599857/work-by-james-suzman/"><i>Work: A Deep History</i></a> by James Suzman</li><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/1PY8vvghrZB5R90tv2UT9Q?si=kj06Ed38Qj6IjxMuEIyQzQ">Work podcast on Spotify</a></li></ul>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Johnny Rodgers, my friend from Tumblr (among other things), joins us to discuss Christopher Alexander's <i>A Pattern Language</i>. We explore how Alexander's design philosophy has endured and influenced not just physical infrastructure, but also the software and algorithms that increasingly encroach on our built environment. </p><p>Show notes:</p><ul><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Pattern_Language">A Pattern Language</a> on Wikipedia</li><li><a href="https://manso.jed.co/post/46472075936/on-surfing-and-reading-books">On Surfing and Reading Books</a> from <a href="https://manso.jed.co/">Manso</a> (my olde Tumblr)</li><li><a href="https://viewsource.tumblr.com">View Source</a>, Johnny's Tumblr</li><li><a href="https://renaissancephilanthropy.org/playbooks/">Renaissance Philanthropy's Playbooks</a>, inspired by A Pattern Language</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_Patterns">Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software</a>, a seminal software engineering book heavily influenced by <i>A Pattern Language</i></li><li><a href="https://www.themarthablog.com/2024/07/dinner-at-new-york-citys-elios.html">Martha Stewart on Elio's</a></li></ul><p>In <a href="/housekeeping/2025/04/reading-for-may/">May</a>, we will be reading <i>Convenience Store Woman</i> by Sayaka Murata and <a href="https://wahc-museum.ca/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Alejandro-Tamayo-Readings.pdf">Marcel Duchamp and the Refusal of Work</a> by Maurizio Lazzarato. </p>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2025 05:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jed@techsontexts.net (Johnny Rodgers, Jed Sundwall)</author>
      <link>http://techsontexts.net/episodes/2025/04/alexander-johnny-rodgers/</link>
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<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>I had the pleasure of recording this on-site with George in his Bellingham workshop (a former tavern). I experimented with having Claude write shownotes for this episode, and it proposed this as a "key theme" of our discussion: "The parallels between Clarke's Overlords and modern artificial intelligence as agents of human transformation." This is a pretty remarkable guess given that I only told Claude that the episode was a conversation with George Dyson about <i>Childhood's End</i>. In any event, that is precisely what George and I talk about.</p><p>We also talk about many other things, including AI and social media as "overlord technologies," analog computing, ESP, and why he believes every company should employ an historian and a biologist. </p><p>Show notes:</p><ul><li>Buy George's new edition of <a href="https://www.amazon.com/PROJECT-ORION-1957-1965-George-Dyson/dp/B0DWVF1P9M/"><i>Project Orion</i></a></li><li>George's 2002 <a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/george_dyson_the_story_of_project_orion">TED Talk about Project Orion</a></li><li><a href="https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&sca_esv=b5e16fb2eafecdc6&rls=en&q=solar+cigarette+lighter">Solar cigarette lighters</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mina_Rees">Mina Rees</a>, first female head of the mathematics department of the Office of Naval Research</li><li>Tim O'Reilly: <a href="https://www.oreilly.com/radar/the-end-of-programming-as-we-know-it/">The End of Programming as We Know It</a></li></ul><p>More show notes at <a href="https://techsontexts.net/episodes/2025/03/clarke-george-dyson/">techsontexts.net</a></p>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 1 Apr 2025 05:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jed@techsontexts.net (George Dyson, Jed Sundwall)</author>
      <link>https://techsontexts.net/episodes/2025/03/clarke-george-dyson/</link>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the pleasure of recording this on-site with George in his Bellingham workshop (a former tavern). I experimented with having Claude write shownotes for this episode, and it proposed this as a "key theme" of our discussion: "The parallels between Clarke's Overlords and modern artificial intelligence as agents of human transformation." This is a pretty remarkable guess given that I only told Claude that the episode was a conversation with George Dyson about <i>Childhood's End</i>. In any event, that is precisely what George and I talk about.</p><p>We also talk about many other things, including AI and social media as "overlord technologies," analog computing, ESP, and why he believes every company should employ an historian and a biologist. </p><p>Show notes:</p><ul><li>Buy George's new edition of <a href="https://www.amazon.com/PROJECT-ORION-1957-1965-George-Dyson/dp/B0DWVF1P9M/"><i>Project Orion</i></a></li><li>George's 2002 <a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/george_dyson_the_story_of_project_orion">TED Talk about Project Orion</a></li><li><a href="https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&sca_esv=b5e16fb2eafecdc6&rls=en&q=solar+cigarette+lighter">Solar cigarette lighters</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mina_Rees">Mina Rees</a>, first female head of the mathematics department of the Office of Naval Research</li><li>Tim O'Reilly: <a href="https://www.oreilly.com/radar/the-end-of-programming-as-we-know-it/">The End of Programming as We Know It</a></li></ul><p>More show notes at <a href="https://techsontexts.net/episodes/2025/03/clarke-george-dyson/">techsontexts.net</a></p>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Episode #13: Keith Garrett on The Truth of Fact, The Truth of Feeling</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Keith Garrett, coy technologist, father, and former marine, comes on to discuss Ted Chiang's masterful "The Truth of Fact, the Truth of Feeling." We talk about the benefits of forgetfulness, the limits of attention, the difficulty of assessing the benfits of <i>cognitively affecting</i> technologies, biases, colonialism, religion, and traffic.</p><p>Show notes:</p><ul><li>Read "The Truth of Fact, the Truth of Feeling"! <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20140222103103/http://subterraneanpress.com/magazine/fall_2013/the_truth_of_fact_the_truth_of_feeling_by_ted_chiang">Online</a> or buy <i>Exhalation</i> wherever you buy books.</li><li><a href="https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.070039597">Navigation-related structural change in the hippocampi of taxi drivers</a></li><li><a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/17456916221148147">Toward Parsimony in Bias Research: A Proposed Common Framework of Belief-Consistent Information Processing for a Set of Biases</a></li><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/02/world/americas/starlink-internet-elon-musk-brazil-amazon.html">The Internet’s Final Frontier: Remote Amazon Tribes</a></li><li><a href="https://www.laphamsquarterly.org/future/unintended-consequence">Socratese's story of Egyptian king Thamus and the invention of writing</a></li><li>Ted Chiang on the dangers of runaway AI relative to the dangers of no-holds-barred capitalism: <a href="https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/tedchiang/the-real-danger-to-civilization-isnt-ai-its-runaway">Silicon Valley Is Turning Into Its Own Worst Fear</a></li></ul>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 1 Mar 2025 01:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jed@techsontexts.net (Keith Garrett, Jed Sundwall)</author>
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<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://ginatrapani.org">Gina Trapani</a>, exemplary human and champion of good things on the web, comes on to talk about <i>Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow</i> by Gabrielle Zevin. We talk about creating universes, friendship, parenthood, all kidns of relationships, play, vulnerability, loving the web, the beauty of being bad at doing things, blank white boards, and learning a lot. If you listen, you will know what so many others already do: Gina is the best.</p><p>Notes!</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=UgKOxDhhKtI">Van Halen logo in MS Paint</a></li><li><a href="https://www.themarginalian.org/2014/01/29/ira-glass-success-daniel-sax/">Ira Glass on he taste gap</a></li><li><a href="https://gimletmedia.com/shows/without-fail/94h8w9/nina-jacobson-how-to-make-a-hit-in">Podcast with Nina Jacobson, producer of The Life Aquatic</a></li><li><a href="https://www.salon.com/2013/06/10/tig_notaro_nothing_matters_and_thats_a_good_thing/">Tig Notaro on why nothing matters and that's a good thing</a></li><li><a href="https://x.com/rickygervais/status/367689614674235392">Always remember no one cares.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.themarginalian.org/2017/09/13/transformative-experience-vampire-problem/">The Vampire Problem: A Brilliant Thought Experiment Illustrating the Paradox of Transformative Experience</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult#Postwar_developments">Cargo cults in post-World War II Melanesia</a></li></ul><p>Also, <i>Enough!</i> is a great new album by Secret School (who did Techs on Texts's intro music): <a href="https://secretschoolseattle.bandcamp.com/album/enough">Bandcamp</a>, <a href="https://music.apple.com/us/album/enough/1789244742">Apple Music</a>, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/7j2GWkMj9oMTfG4iLMB5az">Spotify</a>.</p>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2025 17:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jed@techsontexts.net (Gina Trapani, Jed Sundwall)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://ginatrapani.org">Gina Trapani</a>, exemplary human and champion of good things on the web, comes on to talk about <i>Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow</i> by Gabrielle Zevin. We talk about creating universes, friendship, parenthood, all kidns of relationships, play, vulnerability, loving the web, the beauty of being bad at doing things, blank white boards, and learning a lot. If you listen, you will know what so many others already do: Gina is the best.</p><p>Notes!</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=UgKOxDhhKtI">Van Halen logo in MS Paint</a></li><li><a href="https://www.themarginalian.org/2014/01/29/ira-glass-success-daniel-sax/">Ira Glass on he taste gap</a></li><li><a href="https://gimletmedia.com/shows/without-fail/94h8w9/nina-jacobson-how-to-make-a-hit-in">Podcast with Nina Jacobson, producer of The Life Aquatic</a></li><li><a href="https://www.salon.com/2013/06/10/tig_notaro_nothing_matters_and_thats_a_good_thing/">Tig Notaro on why nothing matters and that's a good thing</a></li><li><a href="https://x.com/rickygervais/status/367689614674235392">Always remember no one cares.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.themarginalian.org/2017/09/13/transformative-experience-vampire-problem/">The Vampire Problem: A Brilliant Thought Experiment Illustrating the Paradox of Transformative Experience</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult#Postwar_developments">Cargo cults in post-World War II Melanesia</a></li></ul><p>Also, <i>Enough!</i> is a great new album by Secret School (who did Techs on Texts's intro music): <a href="https://secretschoolseattle.bandcamp.com/album/enough">Bandcamp</a>, <a href="https://music.apple.com/us/album/enough/1789244742">Apple Music</a>, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/7j2GWkMj9oMTfG4iLMB5az">Spotify</a>.</p>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathaniel_Raymond">Nathaniel Raymond</a>, Executive Director of the Humanitarian Research Lab at the Yale School of Public Health, joins me to talk about Francis Ford Coppola's masterful 1974 film, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Conversation"><i>The Conversation</i></a>. Nathaniel makes a compelling argument that the movie was a history of the future – with Coppola accurately documenting the profound shift that surveillance technology would have on individuals and society. As Nathaniel says in our discussion: the movie is somehow more relevant to society today, 50 years after it was made.</p><p>Many thanks to Natty for coming and doing this with me. He was the absolute best person I could have on to discuss <i>The Conversation</i>.</p><p>Notes!</p><ul><li><a href="https://theworld.org/stories/2023/07/27/tracking-atrocities-sudan-world-has-become-significantly-less-anonymous-war">"New ways of seeing create new ways of being blind"</a> - Interview with Nathaniel about monitoring atrocities in Sudan</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC7GrxeuCIM">The Conversation (1974) Behind the Scenes with Francis Ford Coppola</a></li><li><a href="https://library.yale.edu/event/treasures-yale-film-archive-conversation">Treasures from the Yale Film Archive: The Conversation</a></li><li><a href="https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2014/09/12/the-path-heart-what-medical-experts-forgot.html"><i>Noli Tangere Cordis</i>, <i>do not touch the heart</i></a>: a story of medical progress and shifting ethics</li><li><a href="https://hub.jhu.edu/2019/11/26/blue-baby-operation/">The historic Blue Baby operation</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MKUltra#Revelation">The revelation of MKUltra in 1973</a></li><li>The <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_Sentinel_Project">Satellite Sentinel Project</a></li><li><a href="https://jackson.yale.edu/news/governing-in-the-era-of-internet-power-and-big-data/">Recap of the discussion of Internet Power talk at Yale</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8-i7lA5gic">The Conversation final scene</a></li></ul><p>Listen next month for a discussion with <a href="https://ginatrapani.org">Gina Trapani</a> about <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomorrow,_and_Tomorrow,_and_Tomorrow"><i>Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow</i></a> by Gabrielle Zevin. </p>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></description>
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<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/markcoatney/">Mark Coatney</a>, long-suffering digital media pioneer (Time! Newsweek! Tumblr! Al Jazeera!), gets me to finally read a novel by Ursula K. Le Guin and I loved it. Topics include our changing world, what the world is for, preindustrial longing, why we should maybe recognize that media companies are ephemeral things, the pitfalls of power, lame AI, floating orbs of light, humans imitating machines, why humans like things, leaky boats as a metaphor for a lot of software, and the fact that any human power can be changed by human beings – including, possibly, the power contained within ourselves.</p><p>Many thanks to Mark for coming out to record with me at Yale. Huge treat to get some time with him in real life.</p><p>Tons of shownotes!</p><ul><li>The passage from <a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374104863/analogia"><i>Analogia</i></a> by George Dyson that I refer to: "The Apache was a hard foe to subdue," according to John Gregory Bourke, "not because he was full of wiles and tricks and experienced in all that pertains to the art of war, but because he had so few artificial wants and depended almost absolutely on what his great mother – Nature – stood ready to supply. Our government had never been able to starve any of them until it had them placed on a reservation."</li><li><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2002/05/tales-of-the-tyrant/302480/">Tales of the Tyrant</a>, the story about Saddam Hussein mentioned by Mark.</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/102334/9781419754050"><i>Parable of the Sower</i></a> by Octavia Butler</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_media%27s_role_in_the_Arab_Spring">Social media and the Arab Spring</a></li><li><a href="https://www.oversightboard.com">Facebook's Oversight Board</a></li><li>Biz Stone's <a href="https://x.com/biz/status/914329739988541440">tweet revealing the weight of having to deal with Twitter accidentally becoming a non-state actor</a></li><li><a href="https://www.stockholmresilience.org/research/planetary-boundaries.html">Planetary Boundaries</a></li><li><a href="https://www.ursulakleguin.com/nbf-medal">Le Guin's acceptance speech for the National Book Foundation Medal</a>, which includes this phenomenal passage: "We live in capitalism, its power seems inescapable – but then, so did the divine right of kings. Any human power can be resisted and changed by human beings. Resistance and change often begin in art. Very often in our art, the art of words."</li><li><a href="https://simonwillison.net/2024/Sep/29/notebooklm-audio-overview/">Simon Willison on NotebookLM's AI podcast generator</a></li><li>Mark's (is it really Mark's?) <a href="https://notebooklm.google.com/notebook/f3b0c4ba-f79d-41da-a4cb-ed59613c37af/audio?pli=1">NotebookLM-generated podcast about Ted Chiang's "The Great Silence"</a></li><li><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-weekend-essay/why-ai-isnt-going-to-make-art">"Why A.I. Isn’t Going to Make Art"</a> by Ted Chiang</li><li><a href="https://www.tumblr.com/literallyunbelievable">Literally Unbelievable</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/oL_LLeMcbfc">Domi & JD Beck covering "Flim" by Aphex Twin</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK-pkq3RFvo">"Girl/Boy Song" by Aphex Twin</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv-2_sQEW4c">How Russell Holzman teaches himself how to play breakbeats live</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_Million">Day Million</a></li><li><a href="https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2018/04/new-maps-use-radar-forecast-bird-migration">Tracking bird populations with radar data</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Truth_of_Fact,_the_Truth_of_Feeling">The Truth of Fact, the Truth of Feeling</a></li></ul>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2024 03:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/markcoatney/">Mark Coatney</a>, long-suffering digital media pioneer (Time! Newsweek! Tumblr! Al Jazeera!), gets me to finally read a novel by Ursula K. Le Guin and I loved it. Topics include our changing world, what the world is for, preindustrial longing, why we should maybe recognize that media companies are ephemeral things, the pitfalls of power, lame AI, floating orbs of light, humans imitating machines, why humans like things, leaky boats as a metaphor for a lot of software, and the fact that any human power can be changed by human beings – including, possibly, the power contained within ourselves.</p><p>Many thanks to Mark for coming out to record with me at Yale. Huge treat to get some time with him in real life.</p><p>Tons of shownotes!</p><ul><li>The passage from <a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374104863/analogia"><i>Analogia</i></a> by George Dyson that I refer to: "The Apache was a hard foe to subdue," according to John Gregory Bourke, "not because he was full of wiles and tricks and experienced in all that pertains to the art of war, but because he had so few artificial wants and depended almost absolutely on what his great mother – Nature – stood ready to supply. Our government had never been able to starve any of them until it had them placed on a reservation."</li><li><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2002/05/tales-of-the-tyrant/302480/">Tales of the Tyrant</a>, the story about Saddam Hussein mentioned by Mark.</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/102334/9781419754050"><i>Parable of the Sower</i></a> by Octavia Butler</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_media%27s_role_in_the_Arab_Spring">Social media and the Arab Spring</a></li><li><a href="https://www.oversightboard.com">Facebook's Oversight Board</a></li><li>Biz Stone's <a href="https://x.com/biz/status/914329739988541440">tweet revealing the weight of having to deal with Twitter accidentally becoming a non-state actor</a></li><li><a href="https://www.stockholmresilience.org/research/planetary-boundaries.html">Planetary Boundaries</a></li><li><a href="https://www.ursulakleguin.com/nbf-medal">Le Guin's acceptance speech for the National Book Foundation Medal</a>, which includes this phenomenal passage: "We live in capitalism, its power seems inescapable – but then, so did the divine right of kings. Any human power can be resisted and changed by human beings. Resistance and change often begin in art. Very often in our art, the art of words."</li><li><a href="https://simonwillison.net/2024/Sep/29/notebooklm-audio-overview/">Simon Willison on NotebookLM's AI podcast generator</a></li><li>Mark's (is it really Mark's?) <a href="https://notebooklm.google.com/notebook/f3b0c4ba-f79d-41da-a4cb-ed59613c37af/audio?pli=1">NotebookLM-generated podcast about Ted Chiang's "The Great Silence"</a></li><li><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-weekend-essay/why-ai-isnt-going-to-make-art">"Why A.I. Isn’t Going to Make Art"</a> by Ted Chiang</li><li><a href="https://www.tumblr.com/literallyunbelievable">Literally Unbelievable</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/oL_LLeMcbfc">Domi & JD Beck covering "Flim" by Aphex Twin</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK-pkq3RFvo">"Girl/Boy Song" by Aphex Twin</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv-2_sQEW4c">How Russell Holzman teaches himself how to play breakbeats live</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_Million">Day Million</a></li><li><a href="https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2018/04/new-maps-use-radar-forecast-bird-migration">Tracking bird populations with radar data</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Truth_of_Fact,_the_Truth_of_Feeling">The Truth of Fact, the Truth of Feeling</a></li></ul>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Episode #9: Esther Dyson on Never Let Me Go by Kazuo Ishiguro and Spike Jonze’s Her</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esther_Dyson">Esther Dyson</a>, whose bio defies summarization (and who happens to be sister of <a href="/episodes/2024/06/szilard-george-dyson/">previous guest</a> George Dyson), discusses <i>Never Let Me Go</i> by Kazuo Ishiguro and Spike Jonze's <i>Her</i>. We discuss the substance of life, bioethics, why our senses aren't always reliable, institutions and culture, predatory business models, child labor, mortality, building communities, and gardening versus carpentry.</p><p>A few notes and links related to conversation:</p><ul><li><a href="https://wellville.org">Wellville</a>, the nonprofit Esther founded to to achieve long-term, equitable, community wellbeing</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-phase_commit_protocol">Two-phase commit protocol</a></li><li><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd11gzejgz4o">Google AI search tells users to glue pizza and eat rocks</a></li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/102334/9781250132253"><i>The Gardener and the Carpenter</i></a> by Alison Gopnik</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/102334/9781524760601"><i>Between Two Fires: Truth, Ambition, and Compromise in Putin's Russia</i></a> by Joshua Yaffa</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/102334/9780674276604"><i>Exit, Voice, and Loyalty</i></a> by Albert O. Hirschman</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/102334/9780735216112"><i>The Order of Time</i></a> by Carlo Rivelli</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF8uR6Z6KLc">Steve Jobs's 2005 commencement address at Stanford</a></li></ul>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Oct 2024 03:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jed@techsontexts.net (Esther Dyson, Jed Sundwall)</author>
      <link>https://techsontexts.net/episodes/2024/10/ishiguro-esther-dyson/</link>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esther_Dyson">Esther Dyson</a>, whose bio defies summarization (and who happens to be sister of <a href="/episodes/2024/06/szilard-george-dyson/">previous guest</a> George Dyson), discusses <i>Never Let Me Go</i> by Kazuo Ishiguro and Spike Jonze's <i>Her</i>. We discuss the substance of life, bioethics, why our senses aren't always reliable, institutions and culture, predatory business models, child labor, mortality, building communities, and gardening versus carpentry.</p><p>A few notes and links related to conversation:</p><ul><li><a href="https://wellville.org">Wellville</a>, the nonprofit Esther founded to to achieve long-term, equitable, community wellbeing</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-phase_commit_protocol">Two-phase commit protocol</a></li><li><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd11gzejgz4o">Google AI search tells users to glue pizza and eat rocks</a></li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/102334/9781250132253"><i>The Gardener and the Carpenter</i></a> by Alison Gopnik</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/102334/9781524760601"><i>Between Two Fires: Truth, Ambition, and Compromise in Putin's Russia</i></a> by Joshua Yaffa</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/102334/9780674276604"><i>Exit, Voice, and Loyalty</i></a> by Albert O. Hirschman</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/102334/9780735216112"><i>The Order of Time</i></a> by Carlo Rivelli</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF8uR6Z6KLc">Steve Jobs's 2005 commencement address at Stanford</a></li></ul>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Episode #8: Jordan Tigani on The Analytical Language of John Wilkins by Jorge Luis Borges</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordantigani/">Jordan Tigani</a>, duck herder and renowned "database person," gives us the gift of <a href="https://www.crockford.com/wilkins.html">"The Analytical Language of John Wilkins"</a> by Jorge Luis Borges. We talk about about the potential of language, the limits of language, compression, sloppy ontologies, LLMs, what thing the universe is, simulated annealing, our vague comprehension of what embeddings are, and why it's unfortunate that there's no way to not sound pretentious when talking about Borges.</p><p>A few notes and links related to the conversation:</p><ul><li>Read <a href="https://www.crockford.com/wilkins.html">"The Analytical Language of John Wilkins"</a>. It's quick!</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Analytical_Language_of_John_Wilkins">The Wikipedia article about the essay</a> is pretty good.</li><li>Jordan is also a very talented writer about data and technology, which is great because he's better informed than almost anyone on the planet. Read <a href="https://motherduck.com/blog/big-data-is-dead/">Big Data is Dead</a> from the MotherDuck blog.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulated_annealing">Simulated annealing on Wikipedia</a> 🤯</li><li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trie">Trie</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huffman_coding">Huffman coding</a></li><li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linnaean_taxonomy">Linnaean taxonomy</a></li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/102334/9781501160349"><i>Why Fish Don’t Exist</i></a> by Lulu Miller</li><li><a href="https://cloudnativegeo.org/blog/2024/04/common-schemas-and-ids/">The Importance of Common Data Schemas and Identifiers</a> from the Cloud-Native Geospatial Forum blog (written by <a href="https://cholmes.medium.com">Chris Holmes</a> and me)</li><li><a href="https://braddelong.substack.com/p/understanding-book-classification">Brad DeLong finds that ChatGPT doesn't know what ISBN numbers are</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_F._Codd">Edgar Codd</a>, proto database person</li><li><a href="https://torrentfreak.com/lawsuit-accuses-annas-archive-of-hacking-worldcat-stealing-2-2-tb-data-240207/">WorldCat gets scraped</a> (<a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39292929">Hacker News discussion</a>)</li></ul><p>I asked ChatGPT to write a limerick about Borges and I wish I didn't have to admit that it's pretty good:</p><p>🍀🇦🇷🍀</p><blockquote><p>There once was a poet named Borges,<br />Whose stories were full of deep forges,<br />In labyrinths vast,<br />Where time could not last,<br />And mirrors reflected strange Georges.  </p></blockquote><p>🍀🇦🇷🍀</p>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2024 02:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jed@techsontexts.net (Jordan Tigani, Jed Sundwall)</author>
      <link>https://techsontexts.net/episodes/2024/09/borges-jordan-tigani/</link>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordantigani/">Jordan Tigani</a>, duck herder and renowned "database person," gives us the gift of <a href="https://www.crockford.com/wilkins.html">"The Analytical Language of John Wilkins"</a> by Jorge Luis Borges. We talk about about the potential of language, the limits of language, compression, sloppy ontologies, LLMs, what thing the universe is, simulated annealing, our vague comprehension of what embeddings are, and why it's unfortunate that there's no way to not sound pretentious when talking about Borges.</p><p>A few notes and links related to the conversation:</p><ul><li>Read <a href="https://www.crockford.com/wilkins.html">"The Analytical Language of John Wilkins"</a>. It's quick!</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Analytical_Language_of_John_Wilkins">The Wikipedia article about the essay</a> is pretty good.</li><li>Jordan is also a very talented writer about data and technology, which is great because he's better informed than almost anyone on the planet. Read <a href="https://motherduck.com/blog/big-data-is-dead/">Big Data is Dead</a> from the MotherDuck blog.</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulated_annealing">Simulated annealing on Wikipedia</a> 🤯</li><li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trie">Trie</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huffman_coding">Huffman coding</a></li><li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linnaean_taxonomy">Linnaean taxonomy</a></li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/a/102334/9781501160349"><i>Why Fish Don’t Exist</i></a> by Lulu Miller</li><li><a href="https://cloudnativegeo.org/blog/2024/04/common-schemas-and-ids/">The Importance of Common Data Schemas and Identifiers</a> from the Cloud-Native Geospatial Forum blog (written by <a href="https://cholmes.medium.com">Chris Holmes</a> and me)</li><li><a href="https://braddelong.substack.com/p/understanding-book-classification">Brad DeLong finds that ChatGPT doesn't know what ISBN numbers are</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_F._Codd">Edgar Codd</a>, proto database person</li><li><a href="https://torrentfreak.com/lawsuit-accuses-annas-archive-of-hacking-worldcat-stealing-2-2-tb-data-240207/">WorldCat gets scraped</a> (<a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39292929">Hacker News discussion</a>)</li></ul><p>I asked ChatGPT to write a limerick about Borges and I wish I didn't have to admit that it's pretty good:</p><p>🍀🇦🇷🍀</p><blockquote><p>There once was a poet named Borges,<br />Whose stories were full of deep forges,<br />In labyrinths vast,<br />Where time could not last,<br />And mirrors reflected strange Georges.  </p></blockquote><p>🍀🇦🇷🍀</p>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Episode #7: Max Lenormand on The Little Prince and Night Flight by Antoine de Saint-Exupéry</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<ul><li>Buy <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/102334/9780156656054"><i>Night Flight</i></a></li><li>Buy <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/102334/9780156012195"><i>The Little Prince</i></a></li><li>Listen to <a href="https://www.mindsbehindmaps.com">Minds Behind Maps</a></li><li>Look at <a href="https://gdal.org">the glorious website for GDAL (the Geospatial Data Abstraction Library)</a>. It's perfect!</li><li><a href="https://www.ctvnews.ca/entertainment/the-little-prince-becomes-world-s-most-translated-book-excluding-religious-works-1.3358885">"<i>The Little Prince</i> becomes world's most translated book, excluding religious works"</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/posts/jedsundwall_help-me-out-im-interested-in-finding-out-activity-7058479009759719424-R8cn">The post on LinkedIn where I asked for people to recommend fiction books</a>.</li></ul><p>Next month's reading is <a href="https://www.crockford.com/wilkins.html">"The Analytical Language of John Wilkins"</a> by Jorge Luis Borges. Read it! It's short!</p>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 30 Aug 2024 13:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jed@techsontexts.net (Max Lenormand, Jed Sundwall)</author>
      <link>https://techsontexts.net/episodes/2024/08/saint-exupery-max-lenormand/</link>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<ul><li>Buy <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/102334/9780156656054"><i>Night Flight</i></a></li><li>Buy <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/102334/9780156012195"><i>The Little Prince</i></a></li><li>Listen to <a href="https://www.mindsbehindmaps.com">Minds Behind Maps</a></li><li>Look at <a href="https://gdal.org">the glorious website for GDAL (the Geospatial Data Abstraction Library)</a>. It's perfect!</li><li><a href="https://www.ctvnews.ca/entertainment/the-little-prince-becomes-world-s-most-translated-book-excluding-religious-works-1.3358885">"<i>The Little Prince</i> becomes world's most translated book, excluding religious works"</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/posts/jedsundwall_help-me-out-im-interested-in-finding-out-activity-7058479009759719424-R8cn">The post on LinkedIn where I asked for people to recommend fiction books</a>.</li></ul><p>Next month's reading is <a href="https://www.crockford.com/wilkins.html">"The Analytical Language of John Wilkins"</a> by Jorge Luis Borges. Read it! It's short!</p>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Episode #6: Io Blair-Freese on Borges</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>A few notes and links:</p><ul><li>Buy <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/102334/9780140286809">Jorge Luis Borges's <i>Collected Fictions</i></a></li><li><a href="http://sffaudiomediacan.s3.amazonaws.com/pdfs/TheZahirByJorgeLuisBorgesTranslatedByDudleyFitts.pdf">"The Zahir" PDF</a></li><li><a href="http://oldsite.english.ucsb.edu/faculty/rraley/courses/eng146/Quain.pdf">"An Examination of the Work of Herbert Quain" PDF</a> (Note that this is a different translation than those in the <i>Collected Fictions</i> that I've recommended)</li><li><a href="https://web.mit.edu/allanmc/www/borgeszahir.pdf">The counterfeit <i>Zahir</i></a> (<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/Borges/s/GcjYLymgIy">Reddit discussion</a>)</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idealism">Idealism on Wikipedia</a></li></ul>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 30 Jul 2024 16:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jed@techsontexts.net (Io Blair-Freese, Jed Sundwall)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few notes and links:</p><ul><li>Buy <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/102334/9780140286809">Jorge Luis Borges's <i>Collected Fictions</i></a></li><li><a href="http://sffaudiomediacan.s3.amazonaws.com/pdfs/TheZahirByJorgeLuisBorgesTranslatedByDudleyFitts.pdf">"The Zahir" PDF</a></li><li><a href="http://oldsite.english.ucsb.edu/faculty/rraley/courses/eng146/Quain.pdf">"An Examination of the Work of Herbert Quain" PDF</a> (Note that this is a different translation than those in the <i>Collected Fictions</i> that I've recommended)</li><li><a href="https://web.mit.edu/allanmc/www/borgeszahir.pdf">The counterfeit <i>Zahir</i></a> (<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/Borges/s/GcjYLymgIy">Reddit discussion</a>)</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idealism">Idealism on Wikipedia</a></li></ul>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Episode #5: George Dyson on The Voice of the Dolphins</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Dyson_(science_historian)">George Dyson</a>, historian, boat maker, master human technologist, and friend of friends discusses the totally wild <i>The Voice of the Dolphins</i> by Leo Szilard, which Dyson read when it was given to him by Szilard's wife when Dyson was 11 years old. We talk about AI, geopolitics, alignment (lol), and humanity.</p><p>A few notes and links:</p><ul><li><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Dyson_(science_historian)">George Dyson on Wikipedia</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Szilard">Leo Szilard on Wikipedia</a></p></li><li><p><i>The Voice of the Dolphins</i> on <a href="https://archive.org/details/voiceofdolphinso00szil_0">archive.org</a>.</p></li><li><p>George's book <a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374104863/analogia"><i>Analogia</i></a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kon-Tiki_expedition"><i>Kontiki</i></a> – the book that got George into lashing.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.lavalencia.com/">The Valencia Hotel</a> in La Jolla, where George and Trude Szilard would hang out.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Munk">Walter Munk</a>, legendary Austrian oceanographic data pioneer.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://maps.googleblog.com/2012/10/trekking-grand-canyon-for-google-maps.html">Carrying Google Street View cameras into the Grand Canyon in 2012</a>. Who's in charge?</p></li><li><p><a href="https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/11/21/al-qaeda-letter-bin-laden-tiktok-videos-israel-palestine-war-gen-z/">Bin Laden stans on TikTok</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_ultraviolet_lithography">Extreme ultraviolet lithography</a> – the thing I refer to when trying to explain nanometer scale transistor production.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://overcast.fm/+HEG98M0/1:43:07">Dana Gould on Pete Holmes's podcast</a> talking about how a dog can't conceive of a computer, which may be a way to understand our capacity to conceive of other intelligences (i.e. gods)</p></li><li><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nils_Aall_Barricelli">Neils Barichelli</a> and <a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/george_dyson_the_birth_of_the_computer">George's TED talk about Barichelli from 2003</a></p></li><li><p>Quote from <a href="https://nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/tm/scholarly/tei-Gov10_05Rail-t1-body-d5.html">Samuel Butler</a> marveling at the installation of the first telegraph line connecting Christchurch to Lyttelton in New Zealand sometime in the 19th century, as recounted in <i>Analogia</i>: "We will say then that a considerable advance has been made in mechanical development, when all men, in all places, without any loss of time, are cognizant through their senses, of all that they desire to be cognizant of in all other places, at a low rate of charge, so that the back country squatter may hear his wool sold in London and deal with the buyer himself – may sit in his own chair in a back country hut and hear the performance of Israel in gypt at Exeter Hall – may taste an ice on the Rakaia, which he is paying for and receiving in the Italian opera house Covent garden. Multiply instance ad libitum – this is the grand annihilation of time and place which we are all striving for, and which in one small part we have been permitted to see actually realised."</p></li><li><p>All the books George suggested we read when I asked him to be on the podcast:</p><ul><li><i>The Black Cloud</i> (by astronomer Fred Hoyle)</li><li><i>The Tale of the Big Computer</i> (by magnetohydrodynamicist Hannes Alfveen, under pseudonym Olof Johannsen)</li><li><i>The Voice of the Dolphins</i> (by physicist Leo Szilard)</li><li><i>On the Beach</i> (by Nevil Shute, aeronautical engineer, but that’s science in my book)</li><li><i>Childhood’s End</i> (by Arthur Clarke, pioneer of satellite telecommunication)</li><li><i>The Scientist Speculates: An Anthology of Partly-Baked Ideas</i> (by I.J. Good, Turing’s cryptological assistant and pioneer of Bayesian network theory, who assembled this extraordinary collection by asking scientists to submit their wildest, craziest ideas--so it’s not strictly fiction, but close)</li></ul></li></ul>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 29 Jun 2024 07:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Dyson_(science_historian)">George Dyson</a>, historian, boat maker, master human technologist, and friend of friends discusses the totally wild <i>The Voice of the Dolphins</i> by Leo Szilard, which Dyson read when it was given to him by Szilard's wife when Dyson was 11 years old. We talk about AI, geopolitics, alignment (lol), and humanity.</p><p>A few notes and links:</p><ul><li><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Dyson_(science_historian)">George Dyson on Wikipedia</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Szilard">Leo Szilard on Wikipedia</a></p></li><li><p><i>The Voice of the Dolphins</i> on <a href="https://archive.org/details/voiceofdolphinso00szil_0">archive.org</a>.</p></li><li><p>George's book <a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374104863/analogia"><i>Analogia</i></a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kon-Tiki_expedition"><i>Kontiki</i></a> – the book that got George into lashing.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.lavalencia.com/">The Valencia Hotel</a> in La Jolla, where George and Trude Szilard would hang out.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Munk">Walter Munk</a>, legendary Austrian oceanographic data pioneer.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://maps.googleblog.com/2012/10/trekking-grand-canyon-for-google-maps.html">Carrying Google Street View cameras into the Grand Canyon in 2012</a>. Who's in charge?</p></li><li><p><a href="https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/11/21/al-qaeda-letter-bin-laden-tiktok-videos-israel-palestine-war-gen-z/">Bin Laden stans on TikTok</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_ultraviolet_lithography">Extreme ultraviolet lithography</a> – the thing I refer to when trying to explain nanometer scale transistor production.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://overcast.fm/+HEG98M0/1:43:07">Dana Gould on Pete Holmes's podcast</a> talking about how a dog can't conceive of a computer, which may be a way to understand our capacity to conceive of other intelligences (i.e. gods)</p></li><li><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nils_Aall_Barricelli">Neils Barichelli</a> and <a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/george_dyson_the_birth_of_the_computer">George's TED talk about Barichelli from 2003</a></p></li><li><p>Quote from <a href="https://nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/tm/scholarly/tei-Gov10_05Rail-t1-body-d5.html">Samuel Butler</a> marveling at the installation of the first telegraph line connecting Christchurch to Lyttelton in New Zealand sometime in the 19th century, as recounted in <i>Analogia</i>: "We will say then that a considerable advance has been made in mechanical development, when all men, in all places, without any loss of time, are cognizant through their senses, of all that they desire to be cognizant of in all other places, at a low rate of charge, so that the back country squatter may hear his wool sold in London and deal with the buyer himself – may sit in his own chair in a back country hut and hear the performance of Israel in gypt at Exeter Hall – may taste an ice on the Rakaia, which he is paying for and receiving in the Italian opera house Covent garden. Multiply instance ad libitum – this is the grand annihilation of time and place which we are all striving for, and which in one small part we have been permitted to see actually realised."</p></li><li><p>All the books George suggested we read when I asked him to be on the podcast:</p><ul><li><i>The Black Cloud</i> (by astronomer Fred Hoyle)</li><li><i>The Tale of the Big Computer</i> (by magnetohydrodynamicist Hannes Alfveen, under pseudonym Olof Johannsen)</li><li><i>The Voice of the Dolphins</i> (by physicist Leo Szilard)</li><li><i>On the Beach</i> (by Nevil Shute, aeronautical engineer, but that’s science in my book)</li><li><i>Childhood’s End</i> (by Arthur Clarke, pioneer of satellite telecommunication)</li><li><i>The Scientist Speculates: An Anthology of Partly-Baked Ideas</i> (by I.J. Good, Turing’s cryptological assistant and pioneer of Bayesian network theory, who assembled this extraordinary collection by asking scientists to submit their wildest, craziest ideas--so it’s not strictly fiction, but close)</li></ul></li></ul>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://worldbuilder.substack.com">Chris Beddow</a>, mapmaker, voyager, philosopher, and very good skier uses Borges's "On Exactitude in Science" and Umberto Eco's "On the Impossibility of Drawing a Map of the Empire on a Scale of 1 to 1" to go very very deep on <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Map%E2%80%93territory_relation">the map–territory relationship</a>. Listen and learn how to recognize how your experience on this planet is mediated by the maps you use.</p><p>A few notes and links:</p><ul><li>Read <a href="https://worldbuilder.substack.com">Chris's essays at Worldbuilder</a></li><li>Chris's essay on <a href="https://worldbuilder.substack.com/p/the-fractal-map-and-impossible-symmetry">The Fractal Map and Impossible Symmetry</a></li><li>Buy <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/102334/9780140286809">Jorge Luis Borges's <i>Collected Fictions</i></a></li><li><a href="https://kwarc.info/teaching/TDM/Borges.pdf">"On Exactitude in Science" PDF</a></li><li>Buy <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/102334/9780156001250">Umberto Eco's <i>How to Travel with a Salmon & Other Essays</i></a></li><li> <a href="https://blogs.ubc.ca/clanki/files/2007/04/on-the-impossibility.pdf">"On the Impossibility of Drawing a Map of the Empire on a Scale of 1 to 1" PDF</a></li><li><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/12/07/raised-by-wolves">"Raised by Wolves" by Simon Rich</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychogeography">Psychogeography on Wikipedia</a></li></ul>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 30 May 2024 15:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jed@techsontexts.net (Chris Beddow, Jed Sundwall)</author>
      <link>https://techsontexts.net/episodes/2024/05/borges-chris-beddow/</link>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://worldbuilder.substack.com">Chris Beddow</a>, mapmaker, voyager, philosopher, and very good skier uses Borges's "On Exactitude in Science" and Umberto Eco's "On the Impossibility of Drawing a Map of the Empire on a Scale of 1 to 1" to go very very deep on <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Map%E2%80%93territory_relation">the map–territory relationship</a>. Listen and learn how to recognize how your experience on this planet is mediated by the maps you use.</p><p>A few notes and links:</p><ul><li>Read <a href="https://worldbuilder.substack.com">Chris's essays at Worldbuilder</a></li><li>Chris's essay on <a href="https://worldbuilder.substack.com/p/the-fractal-map-and-impossible-symmetry">The Fractal Map and Impossible Symmetry</a></li><li>Buy <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/102334/9780140286809">Jorge Luis Borges's <i>Collected Fictions</i></a></li><li><a href="https://kwarc.info/teaching/TDM/Borges.pdf">"On Exactitude in Science" PDF</a></li><li>Buy <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/102334/9780156001250">Umberto Eco's <i>How to Travel with a Salmon & Other Essays</i></a></li><li> <a href="https://blogs.ubc.ca/clanki/files/2007/04/on-the-impossibility.pdf">"On the Impossibility of Drawing a Map of the Empire on a Scale of 1 to 1" PDF</a></li><li><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/12/07/raised-by-wolves">"Raised by Wolves" by Simon Rich</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychogeography">Psychogeography on Wikipedia</a></li></ul>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Episode #3: Sean Gorman on Dune by Frank Herbert</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://twitter.com/seangorman">Sean Gorman</a>, geospatial entrepreneur extraordinaire, uses Dune to explain security policy, geopolitics, capitalism, sustainability, common knowledge, the erosion of common knowledge, the importance of friction in political institutions, reasons to think harder about opening up data, and why the OpenStreetMap community are basically Fremen.</p><p>Note that we recorded this in August 2023, long before Dune: Part Two came out. There are no spoilers from the movie, but we discuss the book at length and Sean spoils a number of random YouTube videos about Dune that he watched to prepare for this discussion.</p><p>A few notes and links:</p><ul><li>Please check out <a href="https://www.zephr.xyz">Zephr</a>, Sean's latest startup which is making GPS more accurate and reliable</li><li>Sean on the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxITcVwmTvg">AllThingsXR Podcast</a></li><li>Article by Sean on <a href="https://www.geospatialworld.net/prime/future-gnss/">geopolitics and the future of global navigation satellite systems</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SRI_International">SRI International (SRI)</a></li><li>Buy <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/102334/9780441172719"><i>Dune</i></a> if you haven't already</li></ul>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2024 06:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://twitter.com/seangorman">Sean Gorman</a>, geospatial entrepreneur extraordinaire, uses Dune to explain security policy, geopolitics, capitalism, sustainability, common knowledge, the erosion of common knowledge, the importance of friction in political institutions, reasons to think harder about opening up data, and why the OpenStreetMap community are basically Fremen.</p><p>Note that we recorded this in August 2023, long before Dune: Part Two came out. There are no spoilers from the movie, but we discuss the book at length and Sean spoils a number of random YouTube videos about Dune that he watched to prepare for this discussion.</p><p>A few notes and links:</p><ul><li>Please check out <a href="https://www.zephr.xyz">Zephr</a>, Sean's latest startup which is making GPS more accurate and reliable</li><li>Sean on the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxITcVwmTvg">AllThingsXR Podcast</a></li><li>Article by Sean on <a href="https://www.geospatialworld.net/prime/future-gnss/">geopolitics and the future of global navigation satellite systems</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SRI_International">SRI International (SRI)</a></li><li>Buy <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/102334/9780441172719"><i>Dune</i></a> if you haven't already</li></ul>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 14 Mar 2024 23:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason Goldman, one of the world's foremost Dune podcast pioneers (listen to <a href="https://escapehatchpod.com">Escape Hatch</a>!), talks about all of the Dune books, all of the Dune movies, the Dune TV shows, democracy, institutions, the dangers of charismatic leaders, the (a)moral arc of technological progress, the potential of governing with data, and how so many technologists miss the point of the literature they love. Our conversation left me wondering: could Obama be a mentat?</p><p>A few notes and links:</p><ul><li><a href="http://escapehatchpod.com">Escape Hatch</a> - The podcast formerly known as Dune Pod, co-hosted by Jason with in depth discussions of all kind of great films. Check out <a href="https://overcast.fm/+cNHBtriaA">their episode with Tim O'Reilly</a> from 2020</li><li><a href="https://press.umich.edu/Books/T/The-International-Relations-of-Middle-earth2">The International Relations of Middle-earth</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama's_farewell_address">President Obama's Farewell Address</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_D._Higgins">Michael D. Higgins</a>, Ireland's President and poet who used to have two beautiful Bernese dogs named Síoda and Bród (may they rest in peace)</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Library_of_Babel">"The Library of Babel"</a> by Jorge Luis Borges</li><li>Buy <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/102334/9780441172719"><i>Dune</i></a> if you haven't already</li></ul>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>I've listened to this episode countless times as I've edited it and it is <i>such a gift</i>. I'm really grateful to Tim for doing it with me. </p><p>A few notes and links:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.oreilly.com/tim/herbert/">Frank Herbert, by Tim O'Reilly</a></li><li>Many of the works Tim mentions in this post are mentioned in this blog post: <a href="https://www.oreilly.com/pub/a/tim/articles/favebooks_0705.html">Books That Have Shaped How I Think</a></li><li>At about 12:10, Tim mentions a passage about how Lao Tzu lists the attributes of a wise man, one of which is "roiled as a torrent." He explains this beautiful image in more detail in this blog post titled <a href="https://www.oreilly.com/pub/a/tim/articles/roiled.html">Knowing When to Let Go</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.michaelppowers.com/wisdom/rilke.html">The Man Watching by Rainer Maria Rilke</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jacob_Angel_Delacroix.jpg">Jacob Wrestling with the Angel</a> by Eugène Delacroix.</li></ul>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2024 07:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've listened to this episode countless times as I've edited it and it is <i>such a gift</i>. I'm really grateful to Tim for doing it with me. </p><p>A few notes and links:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.oreilly.com/tim/herbert/">Frank Herbert, by Tim O'Reilly</a></li><li>Many of the works Tim mentions in this post are mentioned in this blog post: <a href="https://www.oreilly.com/pub/a/tim/articles/favebooks_0705.html">Books That Have Shaped How I Think</a></li><li>At about 12:10, Tim mentions a passage about how Lao Tzu lists the attributes of a wise man, one of which is "roiled as a torrent." He explains this beautiful image in more detail in this blog post titled <a href="https://www.oreilly.com/pub/a/tim/articles/roiled.html">Knowing When to Let Go</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.michaelppowers.com/wisdom/rilke.html">The Man Watching by Rainer Maria Rilke</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jacob_Angel_Delacroix.jpg">Jacob Wrestling with the Angel</a> by Eugène Delacroix.</li></ul>
<p><p>If you enjoyed this, please share it.</p><p>Produced by <a href="https://jed.co">Jed Sundwall</a>. Write to jed at techsontexts.net with feedback and suggestions for books or guests.</p><p>Intro music by <a href="https://linktr.ee/secretschool">Secret School</a>.</p><p>Outro music is <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com/track/3-10th-of-the-population">"3/10th of the Population"</a> by <a href="https://decentertained.bandcamp.com">WE™</a>.</p><p>Please donate to <a href="https://radiant.earth/donate">Radiant Earth</a>.</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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