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<p>These are the stories of the founders in the trenches.</p>
<p>In this episode, we go deep into:</p>
<ul>
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 <li>Longevity and the End of Pharma as We Know It: Why measuring aging coherence in real time could let us catch cardiovascular disease 20 years before it strikes, how decentralized citizen science is generating more trial data annually than all FDA drug trials combined, and the moonshot company scanning human brains cell by cell to create digital replicas of people</li>
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<p>Meet the Founders:</p>
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 <li>Guillaume Verdon — Founder & CEO, Extropic </li>
 <li>Mathias Lechner — Co-Founder & CTO, Liquid AI </li>
 <li>Kasim Abdullahi — Head of GTM, Harper </li>
 <li>Philipp Wehn — Founder & CEO, Nexxa.ai </li>
 <li>Sarah Tang — Founder & CEO, Sluicebox </li>
 <li>Michael Andregg — Founder & CEO, Eon Systems </li>
 <li>Bruno Balen — Founder & CEO, ANI </li>
 <li>Jeff Chen — Founder & CEO, Radicle Science </li>
 <li>Andrew Singletary — Founder & CEO, 3Laws Robotics</li>
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<p>If you’re in the early innings of building something in AI, especially if you’re figuring things out from first principles—let’s chat: <a href="https://bit.ly/UntappedE17ytgb" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://bit.ly/UntappedE17ytgb</a></p>
<p>Learn more about Untapped Ventures:<a href="https://untapped.ventures" rel="noopener noreferrer"> https://untapped.ventures</a></p>
<p>Plus, connect with us here:</p>
<p>2. George Bandarian - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/</a>   </p>
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<p>These are the stories of the founders in the trenches.</p>
<p>In this episode, we go deep into:</p>
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<ul>
 <li>Guillaume Verdon — Founder & CEO, Extropic </li>
 <li>Mathias Lechner — Co-Founder & CTO, Liquid AI </li>
 <li>Kasim Abdullahi — Head of GTM, Harper </li>
 <li>Philipp Wehn — Founder & CEO, Nexxa.ai </li>
 <li>Sarah Tang — Founder & CEO, Sluicebox </li>
 <li>Michael Andregg — Founder & CEO, Eon Systems </li>
 <li>Bruno Balen — Founder & CEO, ANI </li>
 <li>Jeff Chen — Founder & CEO, Radicle Science </li>
 <li>Andrew Singletary — Founder & CEO, 3Laws Robotics</li>
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<p>If you’re in the early innings of building something in AI, especially if you’re figuring things out from first principles—let’s chat: <a href="https://bit.ly/UntappedE17ytgb" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://bit.ly/UntappedE17ytgb</a></p>
<p>Learn more about Untapped Ventures:<a href="https://untapped.ventures" rel="noopener noreferrer"> https://untapped.ventures</a></p>
<p>Plus, connect with us here:</p>
<p>2. George Bandarian - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/</a>   </p>
<p>3. Untapped Ventures - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/</a></p>
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 <li>The 5-Layer AE Value Stack — From intelligence and compute substrate to autonomous enterprise experiences, where the next trillion-dollar companies will actually be built</li>
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<p>If you’re in the early innings of building something in AI, especially if you’re figuring things out from first principles—let’s chat: <a href="https://bit.ly/UntappedE17ytgb" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://bit.ly/UntappedE17ytgb</a></p>
<p>Learn more about Untapped Ventures:<a href="https://untapped.ventures" rel="noopener noreferrer"> https://untapped.ventures</a></p>
<p>Plus, connect with us here:</p>
<p>George Bandarian - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/</a>   </p>
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<p>What is the Autonomous Economy (AE)? It’s what happens when billions of AI agents and physical robots can transact, decide, and complete work independently - no human in the loop, no approval required. And it’s already beginning.</p>
<p>In this episode, we dive deep into:</p>
<ul>
 <li>The Autonomous Economy Thesis — What it actually means when agents and robots can transact and execute work without any humans involved, and why this is bigger than any AI trend you're currently following</li>
 <li>The 5-Layer AE Value Stack — From intelligence and compute substrate to autonomous enterprise experiences, where the next trillion-dollar companies will actually be built</li>
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<p>If you’re in the early innings of building something in AI, especially if you’re figuring things out from first principles—let’s chat: <a href="https://bit.ly/UntappedE17ytgb" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://bit.ly/UntappedE17ytgb</a></p>
<p>Learn more about Untapped Ventures:<a href="https://untapped.ventures" rel="noopener noreferrer"> https://untapped.ventures</a></p>
<p>Plus, connect with us here:</p>
<p>George Bandarian - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/</a>   </p>
<p>Untapped Ventures - </p>
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 <li>Speedrun Insider Access - What actually gets founders accepted into a16z's elite accelerator program (hint: it's not what you think)</li>
 <li>Building in AI - From industrial AI agents (Nexxa) to consumer products, how founders should approach the AI wave</li>
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<p>If you’re in the early innings of building something in AI, especially if you’re figuring things out from first principles—let’s chat: <a href="https://bit.ly/4d25KFy" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://bit.ly/4d25KFy</a></p>
<p>Learn more about Untapped Ventures:<a href="https://untapped.ventures" rel="noopener noreferrer"> https://untapped.ventures</a></p>
<p>Plus, connect with us here:</p>
<p>1. Andrew Chen - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewchen/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewchen/</a></p>
<p>2. George Bandarian - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/</a></p>
<p>3. Untapped Ventures - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/</a></p>
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 <li>Speedrun Insider Access - What actually gets founders accepted into a16z's elite accelerator program (hint: it's not what you think)</li>
 <li>Building in AI - From industrial AI agents (Nexxa) to consumer products, how founders should approach the AI wave</li>
 <li>Growth Playbooks - Network effects, retention curves, and go-to-market strategies that actually work</li>
 <li>The Future of Software - What happens when coding becomes as easy as taking a photo? Andrew's vision for disposable apps, meme software, and the death of traditional job titles</li>
</ul>
<p>If you’re in the early innings of building something in AI, especially if you’re figuring things out from first principles—let’s chat: <a href="https://bit.ly/4d25KFy" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://bit.ly/4d25KFy</a></p>
<p>Learn more about Untapped Ventures:<a href="https://untapped.ventures" rel="noopener noreferrer"> https://untapped.ventures</a></p>
<p>Plus, connect with us here:</p>
<p>1. Andrew Chen - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewchen/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewchen/</a></p>
<p>2. George Bandarian - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/</a></p>
<p>3. Untapped Ventures - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/</a></p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Everyone has opinions about founder equity, funding timelines, and valuations—but <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/peterjameswalker/" target="_blank">Peter Walker</a> holds the data. </p><p><br /></p><p>In this special live Agentic session, I sat down with Peter, Head of Insights at <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/carta--/" target="_blank">Carta</a>, to unpack what’s actually happening beneath the surface in early-stage AI startups. </p><p><br /></p><p>Peter’s team has a privileged vantage point—cap tables, valuations, and hiring data across 45,000 startups and 83% of U.S. unicorns. </p><p><br /></p><p>We explore:</p><ul><li>a common equity mistake that’s quietly killing fundraising chances</li><li>why AI founders are raising bigger rounds… and keeping more of their companies</li><li>how lean teams are pushing out serious ARR—and what that means for hiring</li><li>the valuation delta between AI and non-AI startups—and why that window may be closing</li></ul><p><br /></p><p>If you’re raising, hiring, or advising an AI startup in this market, this one’s for you.</p><p><br /></p><p>If you’re in the early innings of building something in AI, especially if you’re figuring things out from first principles—<a href="bit.ly/UntappedE14POD" target="_blank">let’s chat</a>. </p><p><br /></p><p>Connect with us here:</p><ol><li>Peter Walker: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/peterjameswalker/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/peterjameswalker/</a></li><li>George Bandarian: <a target="_blank">⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/⁠</a></li><li>Untapped Ventures:⁠ <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures</a></li><p><br /></p></ol><p>00:00 Trailer</p><p>01:26 Introduction</p><p>02:44 Untapped Ventures</p><p>08:39 Carta</p><p>10:34 Early Equity</p><p>25:05 Venture Context</p><p>34:47 AI Story</p><p>51:04 Questions</p><p>54:48 Outro</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>I brought <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/bentcollins" target="_blank">Ben Collins</a> of <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/withwoz/" target="_blank">Woz</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dakotahrice/" target="_blank">Dakotah Rice</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tushar-nair-b08988222/" target="_blank">Tushar Nair</a> of <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/harperinsure/" target="_blank">Harper</a> for a special episode of Agentic–our AGM!</p><p><br /></p><p>Ben’s Woz lets non-technical founders build scalable apps with no engineering team—think Shopify for software while Dakotah and Tushar’s Harper quotes 476 complex insurance deals with voice AI, turning family brokerage chaos into a data goldmine. </p><p><br /></p><p>On the docket:</p><ul><li>​Harper’s logged-call advantage for scalable precision</li><li>​compute’s brewing storm (NVIDIA’s got rivals rising)</li><li>​how reasoning models cut months off build times</li></ul><p><br /></p><p>Connect with us: </p><ol><li>​ Ben Collins: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bentcollins</li><li>​ Dakotah Rice: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dakotahrice/</li><li>​ Tushar Nair: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tushar-nair-b08988222/</li><li>​ Woz: https://www.linkedin.com/company/withwoz/</li><li>​ Harper: https://www.linkedin.com/company/harperinsure/</li><li>​ George Bandarian: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/</li><li>​ Untapped Ventures: https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures</li></ol><p><br /></p><p>00:00 Trailer</p><p>02:06 Introduction</p><p>02:20 Ben Collins</p><p>04:02 Dakotah Rice</p><p>04:37 Tushar Nair</p><p>05:21 Agentic AI hot takes</p><p>11:59 Deep dive on Woz</p><p>17:05 Deep dive on Harper</p><p>24:15 Y Combinator and the founders community</p><p>28:21 Non-technical business side of software</p><p>30:30 Agentic demand, Elon's Grok/xAI</p><p>32:27 Outro</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Bigger AI models dominate the headlines—but what if the real breakthrough lies in making AI smaller?</p><p><br /></p><p>In this episode, I sit down with Ramin Hasani, Alexander Amini, and Daniela Rus—who are at the helm of Liquid AI—to discuss how their approach challenges conventional architectures and unlocks new frontiers for AI deployment.</p><p><br /></p><p>Also on the docket:</p><p><br /></p><p>• Ramin explains how insights from a microscopic worm led to a novel AI model.</p><p>• Alexander breaks down why Liquid AI operates efficiently on local devices—without compromising modality.</p><p>• Daniela exposes a critical flaw in today’s AI incumbents and why efficiency is the next major battleground.</p><p><br /></p><p>We also unpack all things DeepSeek—its implications for OpenAI, Meta, and enterprises scaling private AI. </p><p><br /></p><p>00:00 Introduction</p><p>02:03 Meet the Co-Founders</p><p>03:01 The Birth of Liquid Neural Networks</p><p>06:28 Applications and Impact of Liquid AI</p><p>09:38 The Worm Model and Its Significance</p><p>16:05 Mathematical Foundations and Breakthroughs</p><p>24:29 Scaling AI for Real-World Applications</p><p>28:05 Edge Computing and AI</p><p>29:58 Future Prospects and Use Cases</p><p>31:36 The Commoditization of AI Models</p><p>32:22 Liquid AI: Reducing Intelligence Costs to Zero</p><p>32:53 Diverse Applications of AI</p><p>33:43 Case Studies and Real-World Examples</p><p>38:05 The Impact of Deep Seek on the AI Ecosystem</p><p>44:13 Advice for Aspiring AI Founders</p><p>45:40 The Importance of Technical and Non-Technical Collaboration</p><p>51:03 Ramin's Journey from Scientist to Entrepreneur</p><p>53:31 Liquid AI's Vision for 2025</p><p>55:10 Conclusion and Future Prospects</p>
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<p>In this episode, I’m joined by <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-reibman-67951589/⁠" target="_blank">Alex Reibman</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamsil/⁠" target="_blank">Adam Silverman</a>, and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/braelyn-boynton-75911974/⁠" target="_blank">Braelyn Boynton</a>, the powerhouse team behind Agency.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Together, they’re tackling the toughest challenges in AI agent development, from failure recovery to debugging and slashing operational costs.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>• Alex reveals why today’s AI agents break in unpredictable ways—and how Agency is solving it.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>• Adam unpacks OpenAI’s latest agent release and its ripple effects across the ecosystem.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>• Braelyn explains how they’re standardizing agent development, lowering barriers for builders everywhere.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Let’s dive in.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Connect with us here: </p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>1. Alex Reibman- <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-reibman-67951589/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-reibman-67951589/</a></p>
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<p>2. Adam Silverman- <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamsil/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamsil/</a></p>
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<p>3. Braelyn Boynton- <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/braelyn-boynton-75911974/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/braelyn-boynton-75911974/</a></p>
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<p>4. George Bandarian: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/</a></p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>5. Untapped Ventures: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/</a></p>
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<p>01:31 Welcome to the Agentic Podcast</p>
<p>02:00 Meet the Founders of Agency AI</p>
<p>03:03 The Origin Story of Agency AI</p>
<p>03:31 Challenges and Solutions in AI Agent Development</p>
<p>04:24 Understanding the AI Ecosystem</p>
<p>04:53 Backgrounds of the Founding Team</p>
<p>09:55 The Evolution of AI Agents</p>
<p>18:46 Enterprise Use Cases for AI Agents</p>
<p>21:22 Innovative Applications of AI Agents</p>
<p>29:25 Building an Agentic Process for VC</p>
<p>32:52 Task Generation and YAML Prompting</p>
<p>33:23 Modifying and Scaling Agents</p>
<p>35:34 AgentOps and Prompt Engineering</p>
<p>39:23 Fundraising Journey and Lessons</p>
<p>43:53 Future Vision and Developer Ecosystem</p>
<p>46:47 Advice for Founders and Engineers</p>
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<p>In this episode, I’m joined by <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-reibman-67951589/⁠" target="_blank">Alex Reibman</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamsil/⁠" target="_blank">Adam Silverman</a>, and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/braelyn-boynton-75911974/⁠" target="_blank">Braelyn Boynton</a>, the powerhouse team behind Agency.</p>
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<p>Together, they’re tackling the toughest challenges in AI agent development, from failure recovery to debugging and slashing operational costs.</p>
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<p>In this episode:</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>• Alex reveals why today’s AI agents break in unpredictable ways—and how Agency is solving it.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>• Adam unpacks OpenAI’s latest agent release and its ripple effects across the ecosystem.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>• Braelyn explains how they’re standardizing agent development, lowering barriers for builders everywhere.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Let’s dive in.</p>
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<p>Connect with us here: </p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>1. Alex Reibman- <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-reibman-67951589/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-reibman-67951589/</a></p>
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<p>2. Adam Silverman- <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamsil/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamsil/</a></p>
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<p>3. Braelyn Boynton- <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/braelyn-boynton-75911974/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/braelyn-boynton-75911974/</a></p>
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<p>4. George Bandarian: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/</a></p>
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<p>5. Untapped Ventures: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/</a></p>
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<p>03:31 Challenges and Solutions in AI Agent Development</p>
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<p>18:46 Enterprise Use Cases for AI Agents</p>
<p>21:22 Innovative Applications of AI Agents</p>
<p>29:25 Building an Agentic Process for VC</p>
<p>32:52 Task Generation and YAML Prompting</p>
<p>33:23 Modifying and Scaling Agents</p>
<p>35:34 AgentOps and Prompt Engineering</p>
<p>39:23 Fundraising Journey and Lessons</p>
<p>43:53 Future Vision and Developer Ecosystem</p>
<p>46:47 Advice for Founders and Engineers</p>
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In this episode, I’m joined by Alex Reibman, Adam Silverman, and Braelyn Boynton, the powerhouse team behind Agency.

Together, they’re tackling the toughest challenges in AI agent development, from failure recovery to debugging and slashing operational costs.

In this episode:

• Alex reveals why today’s AI agents break in unpredictable ways—and how Agency is solving it.

• Adam unpacks OpenAI’s latest agent release and its ripple effects across the ecosystem.

• Braelyn explains how they’re standardizing agent development, lowering barriers for builders everywhere.

Let’s dive in.

Connect with us here: 

1. Alex Reibman- https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-reibman-67951589/

2. Adam Silverman- https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamsil/

3. Braelyn Boynton- https://www.linkedin.com/in/braelyn-boynton-75911974/

4. George Bandarian: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/

5. Untapped Ventures: https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/

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01:31 Welcome to the Agentic Podcast
02:00 Meet the Founders of Agency AI
03:03 The Origin Story of Agency AI
03:31 Challenges and Solutions in AI Agent Development
04:24 Understanding the AI Ecosystem
04:53 Backgrounds of the Founding Team
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In this episode, I’m joined by Alex Reibman, Adam Silverman, and Braelyn Boynton, the powerhouse team behind Agency.

Together, they’re tackling the toughest challenges in AI agent development, from failure recovery to debugging and slashing operational costs.

In this episode:

• Alex reveals why today’s AI agents break in unpredictable ways—and how Agency is solving it.

• Adam unpacks OpenAI’s latest agent release and its ripple effects across the ecosystem.

• Braelyn explains how they’re standardizing agent development, lowering barriers for builders everywhere.

Let’s dive in.

Connect with us here: 

1. Alex Reibman- https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-reibman-67951589/

2. Adam Silverman- https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamsil/

3. Braelyn Boynton- https://www.linkedin.com/in/braelyn-boynton-75911974/

4. George Bandarian: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/

5. Untapped Ventures: https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/

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01:31 Welcome to the Agentic Podcast
02:00 Meet the Founders of Agency AI
03:03 The Origin Story of Agency AI
03:31 Challenges and Solutions in AI Agent Development
04:24 Understanding the AI Ecosystem
04:53 Backgrounds of the Founding Team
09:55 The Evolution of AI Agents
18:46 Enterprise Use Cases for AI Agents
21:22 Innovative Applications of AI Agents
29:25 Building an Agentic Process for VC
32:52 Task Generation and YAML Prompting
33:23 Modifying and Scaling Agents
35:34 AgentOps and Prompt Engineering
39:23 Fundraising Journey and Lessons
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<p>In my recent webinar with the Founder’s Bay community in Silicon Valley, hosted by Mariane Bekker, I explored why AI should be the core focus for founders aiming to build scalable, high-impact companies.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Key takeaways:</p>
<p>• there’s hardly an application that AI can’t improve</p>
<p>• AI startups are exiting faster—7 years on average vs. 13 for others</p>
<p>• building in AI is your best shot at hitting $100M ARR</p>
<p>• it’s not a zero-sum market—horizontal and vertical plays can both win</p>
<p>• focus on solving high-value problems using AI to attract funding and top-tier talent</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>In this episode, I share my views on how you could build a leading AI startup that attracts funding, customers, and talent in 2025.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Connect with us here: </p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>1. George Bandarian: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/</a></p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>2. Untapped Ventures: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/</a></p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>00:00 Trailer</p>
<p>03:19 Introduction</p>
<p>05:53 State of AI</p>
<p>11:55 Ideation</p>
<p>15:48 Agentic AI</p>
<p>26:32 Validation</p>
<p>29:06 Traction</p>
<p>31:48 Recruiting</p>
<p>33:00 Fundraising</p>
<p>35:28 Value-add</p>
<p>37:15 Takeaways </p>
<p>39:01 Q&A</p>
<p>55:28 Outro</p>
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<p>In my recent webinar with the Founder’s Bay community in Silicon Valley, hosted by Mariane Bekker, I explored why AI should be the core focus for founders aiming to build scalable, high-impact companies.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Key takeaways:</p>
<p>• there’s hardly an application that AI can’t improve</p>
<p>• AI startups are exiting faster—7 years on average vs. 13 for others</p>
<p>• building in AI is your best shot at hitting $100M ARR</p>
<p>• it’s not a zero-sum market—horizontal and vertical plays can both win</p>
<p>• focus on solving high-value problems using AI to attract funding and top-tier talent</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>In this episode, I share my views on how you could build a leading AI startup that attracts funding, customers, and talent in 2025.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Connect with us here: </p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>1. George Bandarian: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/</a></p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>2. Untapped Ventures: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/</a></p>
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<p>00:00 Trailer</p>
<p>03:19 Introduction</p>
<p>05:53 State of AI</p>
<p>11:55 Ideation</p>
<p>15:48 Agentic AI</p>
<p>26:32 Validation</p>
<p>29:06 Traction</p>
<p>31:48 Recruiting</p>
<p>33:00 Fundraising</p>
<p>35:28 Value-add</p>
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In my recent webinar with the Founder’s Bay community in Silicon Valley, hosted by Mariane Bekker, I explored why AI should be the core focus for founders aiming to build scalable, high-impact companies.

Key takeaways:
• there’s hardly an application that AI can’t improve
• AI startups are exiting faster—7 years on average vs. 13 for others
• building in AI is your best shot at hitting $100M ARR
• it’s not a zero-sum market—horizontal and vertical plays can both win
• focus on solving high-value problems using AI to attract funding and top-tier talent

In this episode, I share my views on how you could build a leading AI startup that attracts funding, customers, and talent in 2025.

Connect with us here: 

1. George Bandarian: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/

2. Untapped Ventures: https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/

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03:19 Introduction
05:53 State of AI
11:55 Ideation
15:48 Agentic AI
26:32 Validation
29:06 Traction
31:48 Recruiting
33:00 Fundraising
35:28 Value-add
37:15 Takeaways 
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In my recent webinar with the Founder’s Bay community in Silicon Valley, hosted by Mariane Bekker, I explored why AI should be the core focus for founders aiming to build scalable, high-impact companies.

Key takeaways:
• there’s hardly an application that AI can’t improve
• AI startups are exiting faster—7 years on average vs. 13 for others
• building in AI is your best shot at hitting $100M ARR
• it’s not a zero-sum market—horizontal and vertical plays can both win
• focus on solving high-value problems using AI to attract funding and top-tier talent

In this episode, I share my views on how you could build a leading AI startup that attracts funding, customers, and talent in 2025.

Connect with us here: 

1. George Bandarian: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/

2. Untapped Ventures: https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/

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03:19 Introduction
05:53 State of AI
11:55 Ideation
15:48 Agentic AI
26:32 Validation
29:06 Traction
31:48 Recruiting
33:00 Fundraising
35:28 Value-add
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<p>I sat down with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/harperinsure/⁠" target="_blank">Harper</a>'s founders, who use agentic AI to deliver enterprise-grade service at 1/10th the cost.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dakotahrice/" target="_blank">Dakotah Rice</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tushar-nair-b08988222/" target="_blank">Tushar Nair</a> revealed how they're leveraging the $85B E&S market:</p>
<p>• voice AI running quotes to claims</p>
<p>• why selling AI tools failed, but becoming a broker worked</p>
<p>• how they're hitting software margins in a services business</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>As insurance carriers exit Florida and California, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/harperinsure/⁠" target="_blank">Harper</a> couldn’t have come at a better time.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Connect with us:</p>
<p>Dakotah Rice: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dakotahrice/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/dakotahrice/</a></p>
<p>Tushar Nair: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tushar-nair-b08988222/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/tushar-nair-b08988222/</a></p>
<p>Harper: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/harperinsure/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/harperinsure/</a></p>
<p>George Bandarian: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/</a></p>
<p>Untapped Ventures: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/ </a></p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>00:00 Trailer + Introduction</p>
<p>04:33 Dakota's Journey to Founding Harper</p>
<p>05:18 Tushar's Background and Expertise</p>
<p>06:06 The Genesis of Harper</p>
<p>06:38 Challenges and Opportunities in AI-Driven Insurance</p>
<p>13:08 The Evolution of Harper's AI Systems</p>
<p>13:21 Technical Insights into Building AI Agents</p>
<p>16:01 The Future of AI in Insurance</p>
<p>17:36 Advice for Aspiring AI Founders</p>
<p>19:55 Focusing on the ENS Market</p>
<p>22:05 Scaling and Expanding Harper's Services</p>
<p>25:37 Innovative Sales Solutions for Insurance</p>
<p>26:14 Customer Acquisition and Marketing Strategies</p>
<p>27:42 Voice AI: Revolutionizing Customer Interaction</p>
<p>30:15 Leveraging AI for Enhanced Customer Service</p>
<p>33:02 Future of AI in Business Operations</p>
<p>35:49 Fundraising and Business Growth Insights</p>
<p>40:39 Advice for Founders: Building and Scaling Startups</p>
<p>46:16 Co-Founder Dynamics and Relationship</p>
<p>50:08 Conclusion and Final Thoughts</p>
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<p>I sat down with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/harperinsure/⁠" target="_blank">Harper</a>'s founders, who use agentic AI to deliver enterprise-grade service at 1/10th the cost.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dakotahrice/" target="_blank">Dakotah Rice</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tushar-nair-b08988222/" target="_blank">Tushar Nair</a> revealed how they're leveraging the $85B E&S market:</p>
<p>• voice AI running quotes to claims</p>
<p>• why selling AI tools failed, but becoming a broker worked</p>
<p>• how they're hitting software margins in a services business</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>As insurance carriers exit Florida and California, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/harperinsure/⁠" target="_blank">Harper</a> couldn’t have come at a better time.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Connect with us:</p>
<p>Dakotah Rice: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dakotahrice/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/dakotahrice/</a></p>
<p>Tushar Nair: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tushar-nair-b08988222/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/tushar-nair-b08988222/</a></p>
<p>Harper: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/harperinsure/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/harperinsure/</a></p>
<p>George Bandarian: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/</a></p>
<p>Untapped Ventures: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/ </a></p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>00:00 Trailer + Introduction</p>
<p>04:33 Dakota's Journey to Founding Harper</p>
<p>05:18 Tushar's Background and Expertise</p>
<p>06:06 The Genesis of Harper</p>
<p>06:38 Challenges and Opportunities in AI-Driven Insurance</p>
<p>13:08 The Evolution of Harper's AI Systems</p>
<p>13:21 Technical Insights into Building AI Agents</p>
<p>16:01 The Future of AI in Insurance</p>
<p>17:36 Advice for Aspiring AI Founders</p>
<p>19:55 Focusing on the ENS Market</p>
<p>22:05 Scaling and Expanding Harper's Services</p>
<p>25:37 Innovative Sales Solutions for Insurance</p>
<p>26:14 Customer Acquisition and Marketing Strategies</p>
<p>27:42 Voice AI: Revolutionizing Customer Interaction</p>
<p>30:15 Leveraging AI for Enhanced Customer Service</p>
<p>33:02 Future of AI in Business Operations</p>
<p>35:49 Fundraising and Business Growth Insights</p>
<p>40:39 Advice for Founders: Building and Scaling Startups</p>
<p>46:16 Co-Founder Dynamics and Relationship</p>
<p>50:08 Conclusion and Final Thoughts</p>
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      <itunes:summary>The insurance industry has a 400,000 agent shortage.

I sat down with Harper&apos;s founders, who use agentic AI to deliver enterprise-grade service at 1/10th the cost.

Dakotah Rice and Tushar Nair revealed how they&apos;re leveraging the $85B E&amp;S market:
• voice AI running quotes to claims
• why selling AI tools failed, but becoming a broker worked
• how they&apos;re hitting software margins in a services business

As insurance carriers exit Florida and California, Harper couldn’t have come at a better time.

Connect with us:
Dakotah Rice: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dakotahrice/
Tushar Nair: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tushar-nair-b08988222/
Harper: https://www.linkedin.com/company/harperinsure/
George Bandarian: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/
Untapped Ventures: https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/ 

00:00 Trailer + Introduction
04:33 Dakota&apos;s Journey to Founding Harper
05:18 Tushar&apos;s Background and Expertise
06:06 The Genesis of Harper
06:38 Challenges and Opportunities in AI-Driven Insurance
13:08 The Evolution of Harper&apos;s AI Systems
13:21 Technical Insights into Building AI Agents
16:01 The Future of AI in Insurance
17:36 Advice for Aspiring AI Founders
19:55 Focusing on the ENS Market
22:05 Scaling and Expanding Harper&apos;s Services
25:37 Innovative Sales Solutions for Insurance
26:14 Customer Acquisition and Marketing Strategies
27:42 Voice AI: Revolutionizing Customer Interaction
30:15 Leveraging AI for Enhanced Customer Service
33:02 Future of AI in Business Operations
35:49 Fundraising and Business Growth Insights
40:39 Advice for Founders: Building and Scaling Startups
46:16 Co-Founder Dynamics and Relationship
50:08 Conclusion and Final Thoughts</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>The insurance industry has a 400,000 agent shortage.

I sat down with Harper&apos;s founders, who use agentic AI to deliver enterprise-grade service at 1/10th the cost.

Dakotah Rice and Tushar Nair revealed how they&apos;re leveraging the $85B E&amp;S market:
• voice AI running quotes to claims
• why selling AI tools failed, but becoming a broker worked
• how they&apos;re hitting software margins in a services business

As insurance carriers exit Florida and California, Harper couldn’t have come at a better time.

Connect with us:
Dakotah Rice: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dakotahrice/
Tushar Nair: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tushar-nair-b08988222/
Harper: https://www.linkedin.com/company/harperinsure/
George Bandarian: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/
Untapped Ventures: https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/ 

00:00 Trailer + Introduction
04:33 Dakota&apos;s Journey to Founding Harper
05:18 Tushar&apos;s Background and Expertise
06:06 The Genesis of Harper
06:38 Challenges and Opportunities in AI-Driven Insurance
13:08 The Evolution of Harper&apos;s AI Systems
13:21 Technical Insights into Building AI Agents
16:01 The Future of AI in Insurance
17:36 Advice for Aspiring AI Founders
19:55 Focusing on the ENS Market
22:05 Scaling and Expanding Harper&apos;s Services
25:37 Innovative Sales Solutions for Insurance
26:14 Customer Acquisition and Marketing Strategies
27:42 Voice AI: Revolutionizing Customer Interaction
30:15 Leveraging AI for Enhanced Customer Service
33:02 Future of AI in Business Operations
35:49 Fundraising and Business Growth Insights
40:39 Advice for Founders: Building and Scaling Startups
46:16 Co-Founder Dynamics and Relationship
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      <title>Your AI Architecture Is Wrong | Agentic EP 05</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Only 8 companies have shipped AI Agents from production. In this episode of Agentic, I brought together 3 of them, to reveal how they crossed this chasm:</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>1. Aria Attar (TensorStax) shows how they're tackling the 1:250 data scientist shortage with agents that drop into existing cloud environments.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>2. Joe Stolte (Daily.ai), fresh off multiple exits including a $62.5 M acquisition, reveals how they turned 1B newsletter interactions into $1.2M in ARR in just 14 months.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>3. Jacky Wong (Nullify) explains how they're helping enterprises where security teams are outnumbered 4:1 by developers.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Key insight? While the AI market races toward $733.7B by 2027—</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Solving for deployment and LLM reliability > focussing on model capabilities. </p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Let’s dive right in.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Connect with us at:</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>1. Jacky Wong: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/wongja/?originalSubdomain=au" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/wongja/?originalSubdomain=au</a></p>
<p>2. Aria Attar: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ariaattar/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/ariaattar/</a></p>
<p>3. Joe Stolte: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/josephstolte" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/josephstolte</a></p>
<p>5. George Bandarian: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/</a></p>
<p>6. Untapped Ventures: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/</a></p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>00:00 Trailer + Introduction</p>
<p>02:26 Agentic AI Overview</p>
<p>06:49 Meet the Founders</p>
<p>10:42 Deep Dive into AI Security</p>
<p>20:01 Building Agentic Models</p>
<p>25:59 Deep Reasoning and Inference in AI Models</p>
<p>26:19 Building and Training Baby Agents</p>
<p>27:37 Trust and Acceptance in AI Solutions</p>
<p>28:49 Lessons Learned and Advice to Founders</p>
<p>29:40 Common Mistakes in LLM Development</p>
<p>33:32 Customer Acquisition Strategies</p>
<p>36:57 Fundraising Insights and Challenges</p>
<p>42:38 Driving Acceptance and Trust in AI</p>
<p>44:37 Reconciling AI as a Deflationary Technology</p>
<p>46:56 Removing Human Evaluators in Development</p>
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      <author>agentic@untapped.ventures (George Bandarian)</author>
      <link>https://untapped.ventures/</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only 8 companies have shipped AI Agents from production. In this episode of Agentic, I brought together 3 of them, to reveal how they crossed this chasm:</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>1. Aria Attar (TensorStax) shows how they're tackling the 1:250 data scientist shortage with agents that drop into existing cloud environments.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>2. Joe Stolte (Daily.ai), fresh off multiple exits including a $62.5 M acquisition, reveals how they turned 1B newsletter interactions into $1.2M in ARR in just 14 months.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>3. Jacky Wong (Nullify) explains how they're helping enterprises where security teams are outnumbered 4:1 by developers.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Key insight? While the AI market races toward $733.7B by 2027—</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Solving for deployment and LLM reliability > focussing on model capabilities. </p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Let’s dive right in.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Connect with us at:</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>1. Jacky Wong: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/wongja/?originalSubdomain=au" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/wongja/?originalSubdomain=au</a></p>
<p>2. Aria Attar: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ariaattar/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/ariaattar/</a></p>
<p>3. Joe Stolte: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/josephstolte" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/josephstolte</a></p>
<p>5. George Bandarian: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/</a></p>
<p>6. Untapped Ventures: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/</a></p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>00:00 Trailer + Introduction</p>
<p>02:26 Agentic AI Overview</p>
<p>06:49 Meet the Founders</p>
<p>10:42 Deep Dive into AI Security</p>
<p>20:01 Building Agentic Models</p>
<p>25:59 Deep Reasoning and Inference in AI Models</p>
<p>26:19 Building and Training Baby Agents</p>
<p>27:37 Trust and Acceptance in AI Solutions</p>
<p>28:49 Lessons Learned and Advice to Founders</p>
<p>29:40 Common Mistakes in LLM Development</p>
<p>33:32 Customer Acquisition Strategies</p>
<p>36:57 Fundraising Insights and Challenges</p>
<p>42:38 Driving Acceptance and Trust in AI</p>
<p>44:37 Reconciling AI as a Deflationary Technology</p>
<p>46:56 Removing Human Evaluators in Development</p>
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      <itunes:summary>Only 8 companies have shipped AI Agents from production. In this episode of Agentic, I brought together 3 of them, to reveal how they crossed this chasm:

1. Aria Attar (TensorStax) shows how they&apos;re tackling the 1:250 data scientist shortage with agents that drop into existing cloud environments.

2. Joe Stolte (Daily.ai), fresh off multiple exits including a $62.5 M acquisition, reveals how they turned 1B newsletter interactions into $1.2M in ARR in just 14 months.

3. Jacky Wong (Nullify) explains how they&apos;re helping enterprises where security teams are outnumbered 4:1 by developers.

Key insight? While the AI market races toward $733.7B by 2027—

Solving for deployment and LLM reliability &gt; focussing on model capabilities. 

Let’s dive right in.

Connect with us at:

1. Jacky Wong: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wongja/?originalSubdomain=au
2. Aria Attar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ariaattar/
3. Joe Stolte: https://www.linkedin.com/in/josephstolte
5. George Bandarian: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/
6. Untapped Ventures: https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/

00:00 Trailer + Introduction
02:26 Agentic AI Overview
06:49 Meet the Founders
10:42 Deep Dive into AI Security
20:01 Building Agentic Models
25:59 Deep Reasoning and Inference in AI Models
26:19 Building and Training Baby Agents
27:37 Trust and Acceptance in AI Solutions
28:49 Lessons Learned and Advice to Founders
29:40 Common Mistakes in LLM Development
33:32 Customer Acquisition Strategies
36:57 Fundraising Insights and Challenges
42:38 Driving Acceptance and Trust in AI
44:37 Reconciling AI as a Deflationary Technology
46:56 Removing Human Evaluators in Development</itunes:summary>
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1. Aria Attar (TensorStax) shows how they&apos;re tackling the 1:250 data scientist shortage with agents that drop into existing cloud environments.

2. Joe Stolte (Daily.ai), fresh off multiple exits including a $62.5 M acquisition, reveals how they turned 1B newsletter interactions into $1.2M in ARR in just 14 months.

3. Jacky Wong (Nullify) explains how they&apos;re helping enterprises where security teams are outnumbered 4:1 by developers.

Key insight? While the AI market races toward $733.7B by 2027—

Solving for deployment and LLM reliability &gt; focussing on model capabilities. 

Let’s dive right in.

Connect with us at:

1. Jacky Wong: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wongja/?originalSubdomain=au
2. Aria Attar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ariaattar/
3. Joe Stolte: https://www.linkedin.com/in/josephstolte
5. George Bandarian: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/
6. Untapped Ventures: https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/

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02:26 Agentic AI Overview
06:49 Meet the Founders
10:42 Deep Dive into AI Security
20:01 Building Agentic Models
25:59 Deep Reasoning and Inference in AI Models
26:19 Building and Training Baby Agents
27:37 Trust and Acceptance in AI Solutions
28:49 Lessons Learned and Advice to Founders
29:40 Common Mistakes in LLM Development
33:32 Customer Acquisition Strategies
36:57 Fundraising Insights and Challenges
42:38 Driving Acceptance and Trust in AI
44:37 Reconciling AI as a Deflationary Technology
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      <title>Where Top VCs Are Placing Their AI Bets In 2025 | Agentic EP 04</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>With $90B poured into AI over the past year, where is the focus going to be in 2025? I spoke to four top investors to find out.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>1. <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/yipengzhao/" target="_blank">Yipeng Zhao</a> (Embark Ventures) believes AI offers a one-year head start. Fast GTM wins. Slow movers risk irrelevance.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>2. <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hariarul/" target="_blank">Hari Arul</a> (Khosla Ventures) has stopped backing co-pilots altogether. His take? Human-in-loop models won’t survive past 2026.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>3. <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesshecter/" target="_blank">James Shecter</a> (Fika Ventures) says enterprises need the illusion of control over their AI workflows.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>4. <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicole-toussaint-2874a1106/" target="_blank">Nicole Toussaint</a> (TenOneTen Ventures) sees the “Scopely moment” for AI agents approaching fast — and soon, market entry will outweigh engineering breakthroughs.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Tune in now.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Connect with us at:</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>1. Yipeng Zhao: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/yipengzhao/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/yipengzhao/</a></p>
<p>2. Hari Arul: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hariarul/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/hariarul/</a></p>
<p>3. James Shecter: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesshecter/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesshecter/</a></p>
<p>4. Nicole Toussaint: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicole-toussaint-2874a1106/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicole-toussaint-2874a1106/</a></p>
<p>5. George Bandarian: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/</a></p>
<p>6. Untapped Ventures: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/</a></p>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 3 Jan 2025 05:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>agentic@untapped.ventures (George Bandarian)</author>
      <link>https://untapped.ventures/</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With $90B poured into AI over the past year, where is the focus going to be in 2025? I spoke to four top investors to find out.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>1. <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/yipengzhao/" target="_blank">Yipeng Zhao</a> (Embark Ventures) believes AI offers a one-year head start. Fast GTM wins. Slow movers risk irrelevance.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>2. <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hariarul/" target="_blank">Hari Arul</a> (Khosla Ventures) has stopped backing co-pilots altogether. His take? Human-in-loop models won’t survive past 2026.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>3. <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesshecter/" target="_blank">James Shecter</a> (Fika Ventures) says enterprises need the illusion of control over their AI workflows.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>4. <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicole-toussaint-2874a1106/" target="_blank">Nicole Toussaint</a> (TenOneTen Ventures) sees the “Scopely moment” for AI agents approaching fast — and soon, market entry will outweigh engineering breakthroughs.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Tune in now.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Connect with us at:</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>1. Yipeng Zhao: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/yipengzhao/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/yipengzhao/</a></p>
<p>2. Hari Arul: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hariarul/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/hariarul/</a></p>
<p>3. James Shecter: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesshecter/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesshecter/</a></p>
<p>4. Nicole Toussaint: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicole-toussaint-2874a1106/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicole-toussaint-2874a1106/</a></p>
<p>5. George Bandarian: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/</a></p>
<p>6. Untapped Ventures: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/</a></p>
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      <itunes:summary>With $90B poured into AI over the past year, where is the focus going to be in 2025? I spoke to four top investors to find out.

1. Yipeng Zhao (Embark Ventures) believes AI offers a one-year head start. Fast GTM wins. Slow movers risk irrelevance.

2. Hari Arul (Khosla Ventures) has stopped backing co-pilots altogether. His take? Human-in-loop models won’t survive past 2026.

3. James Shecter (Fika Ventures) says enterprises need the illusion of control over their AI workflows.

4. Nicole Toussaint (TenOneTen Ventures) sees the “Scopely moment” for AI agents approaching fast — and soon, market entry will outweigh engineering breakthroughs.

Tune in now.

Connect with us at:

1. Yipeng Zhao: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yipengzhao/
2. Hari Arul: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hariarul/
3. James Shecter: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesshecter/
4. Nicole Toussaint: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicole-toussaint-2874a1106/
5. George Bandarian: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/
6. Untapped Ventures: https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>With $90B poured into AI over the past year, where is the focus going to be in 2025? I spoke to four top investors to find out.

1. Yipeng Zhao (Embark Ventures) believes AI offers a one-year head start. Fast GTM wins. Slow movers risk irrelevance.

2. Hari Arul (Khosla Ventures) has stopped backing co-pilots altogether. His take? Human-in-loop models won’t survive past 2026.

3. James Shecter (Fika Ventures) says enterprises need the illusion of control over their AI workflows.

4. Nicole Toussaint (TenOneTen Ventures) sees the “Scopely moment” for AI agents approaching fast — and soon, market entry will outweigh engineering breakthroughs.

Tune in now.

Connect with us at:

1. Yipeng Zhao: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yipengzhao/
2. Hari Arul: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hariarul/
3. James Shecter: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesshecter/
4. Nicole Toussaint: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicole-toussaint-2874a1106/
5. George Bandarian: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/
6. Untapped Ventures: https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Why AI Agents Are Eating Enterprise Software | EP 03 Founders Panel</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>While 92% of Fortune 500s realize the surplus alpha that can be created from leveraging AI, only 25% of SMBs realize the same.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>I sat with 6 founders who are building Agentic AI solutions: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/wongja/?originalSubdomain=au" target="_blank">Jacky Wong</a> (Nullify), <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ariaattar/⁠" target="_blank">Aria Attar</a> (TensorStax), <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/maximilianahrens/?originalSubdomain=uk⁠" target="_blank">Max Ahrens</a> (Maihem), <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/saurabhs/" target="_blank">Saurabh Sharma</a> (You.com), <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonasdiezun/⁠" target="_blank">Jonas Diezun</a> (Beam AI), and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashar-rizqi-6614487/" target="_blank">Ashar Rizqi</a> (Bounti.ai).</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>The key highlights from our conversation were:</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>- OpenAI’s function calling breaks down when scaling requires consistent outputs and error handling—just ask <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/wongja/?originalSubdomain=au⁠" target="_blank">Jacky</a> or anyone building enterprise agents.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>- MongoDB could face disruption as AI agents take over infrastructure orchestration—<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ariaattar/⁠" target="_blank">Aria</a> flagged it, and I agree.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>- Calling agents "AI workers" simplifies adoption for hesitant enterprises—a shift that doubled <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonasdiezun/⁠" target="_blank">Jonas Diezun</a>’s sales.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>- Agentic AI scales across verticals in months, not years—<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashar-rizqi-6614487/" target="_blank">Ashar</a> says the old SaaS scaling playbook is obsolete.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>- <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/maximilianahrens/?originalSubdomain=uk" target="_blank">Max</a> at Maihem points out that building functional agents hinges on managing the edge cases that crash your system.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Let’s dive right in.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Connect with us here:</p>
<p>1. Jacky Wong- <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/wongja/?originalSubdomain=au" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/wongja/?originalSubdomain=au</a></p>
<p>2. Aria Attar - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ariaattar/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/ariaattar/</a></p>
<p>3. Max Ahrens - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/maximilianahrens/?originalSubdomain=uk" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/maximilianahrens/?originalSubdomain=uk</a></p>
<p>4. Saurabh Sharma - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/saurabhs/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/saurabhs/</a></p>
<p>5. Jonas Diezun - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonasdiezun/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonasdiezun/</a></p>
<p>6. Ashar Rizqi - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashar-rizqi-6614487/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashar-rizqi-6614487/</a></p>
<p>7. George Bandarian - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/</a></p>
<p>8. Untapped Ventures - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/</a></p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>00:00 Trailer</p>
<p>01:26 Welcome to the Agentic Podcast</p>
<p>02:21 Founder Panel Introduction</p>
<p>02:41 Founders' Backgrounds and Insights</p>
<p>10:08 Defining Agentic AI</p>
<p>20:00 Building Effective AI Agents</p>
<p>26:08 Challenges in Early AI Development</p>
<p>26:21 Human in the Loop: Enhancing AI Adoption</p>
<p>26:58 Debating the Importance of Evaluations</p>
<p>27:39 Technical Insights and Mistakes</p>
<p>29:07 Impact of Agentic Paradigm Shift on Infrastructure</p>
<p>29:52 Customer Adoption and Market Strategies</p>
<p>31:21 Go-to-Market Strategies and Early Stage Focus</p>
<p>39:18 Horizontal vs Vertical Approaches in AI</p>
<p>47:39 Final Thoughts</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>#ai #tech #podcast #vc</p>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 27 Dec 2024 01:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>agentic@untapped.ventures (George Bandarian)</author>
      <link>https://untapped.ventures/</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While 92% of Fortune 500s realize the surplus alpha that can be created from leveraging AI, only 25% of SMBs realize the same.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>I sat with 6 founders who are building Agentic AI solutions: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/wongja/?originalSubdomain=au" target="_blank">Jacky Wong</a> (Nullify), <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ariaattar/⁠" target="_blank">Aria Attar</a> (TensorStax), <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/maximilianahrens/?originalSubdomain=uk⁠" target="_blank">Max Ahrens</a> (Maihem), <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/saurabhs/" target="_blank">Saurabh Sharma</a> (You.com), <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonasdiezun/⁠" target="_blank">Jonas Diezun</a> (Beam AI), and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashar-rizqi-6614487/" target="_blank">Ashar Rizqi</a> (Bounti.ai).</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>The key highlights from our conversation were:</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>- OpenAI’s function calling breaks down when scaling requires consistent outputs and error handling—just ask <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/wongja/?originalSubdomain=au⁠" target="_blank">Jacky</a> or anyone building enterprise agents.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>- MongoDB could face disruption as AI agents take over infrastructure orchestration—<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ariaattar/⁠" target="_blank">Aria</a> flagged it, and I agree.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>- Calling agents "AI workers" simplifies adoption for hesitant enterprises—a shift that doubled <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonasdiezun/⁠" target="_blank">Jonas Diezun</a>’s sales.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>- Agentic AI scales across verticals in months, not years—<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashar-rizqi-6614487/" target="_blank">Ashar</a> says the old SaaS scaling playbook is obsolete.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>- <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/maximilianahrens/?originalSubdomain=uk" target="_blank">Max</a> at Maihem points out that building functional agents hinges on managing the edge cases that crash your system.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Let’s dive right in.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Connect with us here:</p>
<p>1. Jacky Wong- <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/wongja/?originalSubdomain=au" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/wongja/?originalSubdomain=au</a></p>
<p>2. Aria Attar - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ariaattar/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/ariaattar/</a></p>
<p>3. Max Ahrens - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/maximilianahrens/?originalSubdomain=uk" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/maximilianahrens/?originalSubdomain=uk</a></p>
<p>4. Saurabh Sharma - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/saurabhs/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/saurabhs/</a></p>
<p>5. Jonas Diezun - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonasdiezun/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonasdiezun/</a></p>
<p>6. Ashar Rizqi - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashar-rizqi-6614487/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashar-rizqi-6614487/</a></p>
<p>7. George Bandarian - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/</a></p>
<p>8. Untapped Ventures - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/</a></p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>00:00 Trailer</p>
<p>01:26 Welcome to the Agentic Podcast</p>
<p>02:21 Founder Panel Introduction</p>
<p>02:41 Founders' Backgrounds and Insights</p>
<p>10:08 Defining Agentic AI</p>
<p>20:00 Building Effective AI Agents</p>
<p>26:08 Challenges in Early AI Development</p>
<p>26:21 Human in the Loop: Enhancing AI Adoption</p>
<p>26:58 Debating the Importance of Evaluations</p>
<p>27:39 Technical Insights and Mistakes</p>
<p>29:07 Impact of Agentic Paradigm Shift on Infrastructure</p>
<p>29:52 Customer Adoption and Market Strategies</p>
<p>31:21 Go-to-Market Strategies and Early Stage Focus</p>
<p>39:18 Horizontal vs Vertical Approaches in AI</p>
<p>47:39 Final Thoughts</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>#ai #tech #podcast #vc</p>
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      <itunes:summary>While 92% of Fortune 500s realize the surplus alpha that can be created from leveraging AI, only 25% of SMBs realize the same.

I sat with 6 founders who are building Agentic AI solutions: Jacky Wong (Nullify), Aria Attar (TensorStax), Max Ahrens (Maihem), Saurabh Sharma (You.com), Jonas Diezun (Beam AI), and Ashar Rizqi (Bounti.ai).

The key highlights from our conversation were:

- OpenAI’s function calling breaks down when scaling requires consistent outputs and error handling—just ask Jacky or anyone building enterprise agents.

- MongoDB could face disruption as AI agents take over infrastructure orchestration—Aria flagged it, and I agree.

- Calling agents &quot;AI workers&quot; simplifies adoption for hesitant enterprises—a shift that doubled Jonas Diezun’s sales.

- Agentic AI scales across verticals in months, not years—Ashar says the old SaaS scaling playbook is obsolete.

- Max at Maihem points out that building functional agents hinges on managing the edge cases that crash your system.

Let’s dive right in.

Connect with us here:
1. Jacky Wong- https://www.linkedin.com/in/wongja/?originalSubdomain=au
2. Aria Attar - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ariaattar/
3. Max Ahrens - https://www.linkedin.com/in/maximilianahrens/?originalSubdomain=uk
4. Saurabh Sharma - https://www.linkedin.com/in/saurabhs/
5. Jonas Diezun - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonasdiezun/
6. Ashar Rizqi - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashar-rizqi-6614487/
7. George Bandarian - https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/
8. Untapped Ventures - https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/

00:00 Trailer
01:26 Welcome to the Agentic Podcast
02:21 Founder Panel Introduction
02:41 Founders&apos; Backgrounds and Insights
10:08 Defining Agentic AI
20:00 Building Effective AI Agents
26:08 Challenges in Early AI Development
26:21 Human in the Loop: Enhancing AI Adoption
26:58 Debating the Importance of Evaluations
27:39 Technical Insights and Mistakes
29:07 Impact of Agentic Paradigm Shift on Infrastructure
29:52 Customer Adoption and Market Strategies
31:21 Go-to-Market Strategies and Early Stage Focus
39:18 Horizontal vs Vertical Approaches in AI
47:39 Final Thoughts

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      <itunes:subtitle>While 92% of Fortune 500s realize the surplus alpha that can be created from leveraging AI, only 25% of SMBs realize the same.

I sat with 6 founders who are building Agentic AI solutions: Jacky Wong (Nullify), Aria Attar (TensorStax), Max Ahrens (Maihem), Saurabh Sharma (You.com), Jonas Diezun (Beam AI), and Ashar Rizqi (Bounti.ai).

The key highlights from our conversation were:

- OpenAI’s function calling breaks down when scaling requires consistent outputs and error handling—just ask Jacky or anyone building enterprise agents.

- MongoDB could face disruption as AI agents take over infrastructure orchestration—Aria flagged it, and I agree.

- Calling agents &quot;AI workers&quot; simplifies adoption for hesitant enterprises—a shift that doubled Jonas Diezun’s sales.

- Agentic AI scales across verticals in months, not years—Ashar says the old SaaS scaling playbook is obsolete.

- Max at Maihem points out that building functional agents hinges on managing the edge cases that crash your system.

Let’s dive right in.

Connect with us here:
1. Jacky Wong- https://www.linkedin.com/in/wongja/?originalSubdomain=au
2. Aria Attar - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ariaattar/
3. Max Ahrens - https://www.linkedin.com/in/maximilianahrens/?originalSubdomain=uk
4. Saurabh Sharma - https://www.linkedin.com/in/saurabhs/
5. Jonas Diezun - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonasdiezun/
6. Ashar Rizqi - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashar-rizqi-6614487/
7. George Bandarian - https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/
8. Untapped Ventures - https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/

00:00 Trailer
01:26 Welcome to the Agentic Podcast
02:21 Founder Panel Introduction
02:41 Founders&apos; Backgrounds and Insights
10:08 Defining Agentic AI
20:00 Building Effective AI Agents
26:08 Challenges in Early AI Development
26:21 Human in the Loop: Enhancing AI Adoption
26:58 Debating the Importance of Evaluations
27:39 Technical Insights and Mistakes
29:07 Impact of Agentic Paradigm Shift on Infrastructure
29:52 Customer Adoption and Market Strategies
31:21 Go-to-Market Strategies and Early Stage Focus
39:18 Horizontal vs Vertical Approaches in AI
47:39 Final Thoughts

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      <description><![CDATA[<p>As we transition into agentic models, it’s evident there’s a blend of optimism and caution.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>In this panel discussion, I was joined by <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jchu/" target="_blank">Jon Chu</a> (Khosla Ventures), <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/pranavgreddy/" target="_blank">Pranav Reddy</a> (Conviction), <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewbrackin/" target="_blank">Andrew Brackin</a> (Gradient), <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/arasha/" target="_blank">Arash Afrakhteh</a> (Pear VC), <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/alejandra-vergaral/" target="_blank">Alejandra Vergara</a> (Bee Partners), and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nahimnasser/" target="_blank">Nahim Nasser</a> (Georgian) as we explored:</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>• why agentic AI will drive systemic shifts across various industries</p>
<p>• the need to define scalable, high-impact use cases for agent-driven solutions</p>
<p>• shifting dynamics of human-machine interaction</p>
<p>• how agentic AI is advancing in parallel with LLMs</p>
<p>• why regional disparities and emerging foundation models could profoundly shape future progress, and</p>
<p>• how value will accumulate for vertical companies beyond the API</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Let’s jump right in. </p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>00:00:00 Trailer </p>
<p>00:02:13 Introduction</p>
<p>00:11:47 Current State of AI</p>
<p>00:21:00 Investment Insights and Startup Pitfalls</p>
<p>00:30:49 Vertical vs Horizontal </p>
<p>00:42:09 Evaluating Business and Team Dynamics</p>
<p>00:51:19 Different ways to look at AI</p>
<p>00:58:06 The AGI Landscape</p>
<p>01:01:17 Outro</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Connect with us here: </p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>1. Jon Chu- <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jchu/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/jchu/</a></p>
<p>2. Pranav Reddy- <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/pranavgreddy/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/pranavgreddy/</a></p>
<p>3. Andrew Brackin- <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewbrackin/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewbrackin/</a> </p>
<p>4. Arash Afrakhteh- <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/arasha/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/arasha/</a> </p>
<p>5. Alejandra Vergara- <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/alejandra-vergaral/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/alejandra-vergaral/</a> </p>
<p>6. Nahim Nasser- <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nahimnasser/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nahimnasser/</a></p>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As we transition into agentic models, it’s evident there’s a blend of optimism and caution.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>In this panel discussion, I was joined by <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jchu/" target="_blank">Jon Chu</a> (Khosla Ventures), <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/pranavgreddy/" target="_blank">Pranav Reddy</a> (Conviction), <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewbrackin/" target="_blank">Andrew Brackin</a> (Gradient), <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/arasha/" target="_blank">Arash Afrakhteh</a> (Pear VC), <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/alejandra-vergaral/" target="_blank">Alejandra Vergara</a> (Bee Partners), and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nahimnasser/" target="_blank">Nahim Nasser</a> (Georgian) as we explored:</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>• why agentic AI will drive systemic shifts across various industries</p>
<p>• the need to define scalable, high-impact use cases for agent-driven solutions</p>
<p>• shifting dynamics of human-machine interaction</p>
<p>• how agentic AI is advancing in parallel with LLMs</p>
<p>• why regional disparities and emerging foundation models could profoundly shape future progress, and</p>
<p>• how value will accumulate for vertical companies beyond the API</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Let’s jump right in. </p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>00:00:00 Trailer </p>
<p>00:02:13 Introduction</p>
<p>00:11:47 Current State of AI</p>
<p>00:21:00 Investment Insights and Startup Pitfalls</p>
<p>00:30:49 Vertical vs Horizontal </p>
<p>00:42:09 Evaluating Business and Team Dynamics</p>
<p>00:51:19 Different ways to look at AI</p>
<p>00:58:06 The AGI Landscape</p>
<p>01:01:17 Outro</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Connect with us here: </p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>1. Jon Chu- <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jchu/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/jchu/</a></p>
<p>2. Pranav Reddy- <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/pranavgreddy/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/pranavgreddy/</a></p>
<p>3. Andrew Brackin- <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewbrackin/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewbrackin/</a> </p>
<p>4. Arash Afrakhteh- <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/arasha/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/arasha/</a> </p>
<p>5. Alejandra Vergara- <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/alejandra-vergaral/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/alejandra-vergaral/</a> </p>
<p>6. Nahim Nasser- <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nahimnasser/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nahimnasser/</a></p>
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In this panel discussion, I was joined by Jon Chu (Khosla Ventures), Pranav Reddy (Conviction), Andrew Brackin (Gradient), Arash Afrakhteh (Pear VC), Alejandra Vergara (Bee Partners), and Nahim Nasser (Georgian) as we explored:

• why agentic AI will drive systemic shifts across various industries
• the need to define scalable, high-impact use cases for agent-driven solutions
• shifting dynamics of human-machine interaction
• how agentic AI is advancing in parallel with LLMs
• why regional disparities and emerging foundation models could profoundly shape future progress, and
• how value will accumulate for vertical companies beyond the API

Let’s jump right in. 

00:00:00 Trailer 
00:02:13 Introduction
00:11:47 Current State of AI
00:21:00 Investment Insights and Startup Pitfalls
00:30:49 Vertical vs Horizontal 
00:42:09 Evaluating Business and Team Dynamics
00:51:19 Different ways to look at AI
00:58:06 The AGI Landscape
01:01:17 Outro

Connect with us here: 

1. Jon Chu- https://www.linkedin.com/in/jchu/
2. Pranav Reddy- https://www.linkedin.com/in/pranavgreddy/
3. Andrew Brackin- https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewbrackin/ 
4. Arash Afrakhteh- https://www.linkedin.com/in/arasha/ 
5. Alejandra Vergara- https://www.linkedin.com/in/alejandra-vergaral/ 
6. Nahim Nasser- https://www.linkedin.com/in/nahimnasser/</itunes:summary>
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In this panel discussion, I was joined by Jon Chu (Khosla Ventures), Pranav Reddy (Conviction), Andrew Brackin (Gradient), Arash Afrakhteh (Pear VC), Alejandra Vergara (Bee Partners), and Nahim Nasser (Georgian) as we explored:

• why agentic AI will drive systemic shifts across various industries
• the need to define scalable, high-impact use cases for agent-driven solutions
• shifting dynamics of human-machine interaction
• how agentic AI is advancing in parallel with LLMs
• why regional disparities and emerging foundation models could profoundly shape future progress, and
• how value will accumulate for vertical companies beyond the API

Let’s jump right in. 

00:00:00 Trailer 
00:02:13 Introduction
00:11:47 Current State of AI
00:21:00 Investment Insights and Startup Pitfalls
00:30:49 Vertical vs Horizontal 
00:42:09 Evaluating Business and Team Dynamics
00:51:19 Different ways to look at AI
00:58:06 The AGI Landscape
01:01:17 Outro

Connect with us here: 

1. Jon Chu- https://www.linkedin.com/in/jchu/
2. Pranav Reddy- https://www.linkedin.com/in/pranavgreddy/
3. Andrew Brackin- https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewbrackin/ 
4. Arash Afrakhteh- https://www.linkedin.com/in/arasha/ 
5. Alejandra Vergara- https://www.linkedin.com/in/alejandra-vergaral/ 
6. Nahim Nasser- https://www.linkedin.com/in/nahimnasser/</itunes:subtitle>
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<p>Our guests on this episode—<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jcorbin01/" target="_blank">Jonathan Corbin</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sshalabi/" target="_blank">Sami Shalabi</a>, and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/eugenemann/" target="_blank">Eugene Mann</a>—embody that. They're pushing AI agents forward for real-world enterprise use cases with <a href="https://www.mavenagi.com" target="_blank">Maven AGI</a>.</p>
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<p>We discuss: </p>
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<p>• solving complex challenges with AI agents</p>
<p>• empowering enterprises with cutting-edge tools, and</p>
<p>• why agentic AI will create new roles for humankind</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Let’s get into it.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Connect with us here: </p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>1. Jonathan Corbin- <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jcorbin01/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/jcorbin01/</a></p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>2. Sami Shalabi- <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sshalabi/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/sshalabi/</a></p>
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<p>3. Eugene Mann- <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/eugenemann/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/eugenemann/</a></p>
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<p>4. George Bandarian- <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/</a></p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>5. Untapped Ventures- <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/</a></p>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me, agentic is intent meeting capability—systems that act autonomously, adapt intelligently, and drive purposeful outcomes.</p>
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<p>Our guests on this episode—<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jcorbin01/" target="_blank">Jonathan Corbin</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sshalabi/" target="_blank">Sami Shalabi</a>, and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/eugenemann/" target="_blank">Eugene Mann</a>—embody that. They're pushing AI agents forward for real-world enterprise use cases with <a href="https://www.mavenagi.com" target="_blank">Maven AGI</a>.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>We discuss: </p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>• solving complex challenges with AI agents</p>
<p>• empowering enterprises with cutting-edge tools, and</p>
<p>• why agentic AI will create new roles for humankind</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Let’s get into it.</p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>Connect with us here: </p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>1. Jonathan Corbin- <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jcorbin01/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/jcorbin01/</a></p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>2. Sami Shalabi- <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sshalabi/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/sshalabi/</a></p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>3. Eugene Mann- <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/eugenemann/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/eugenemann/</a></p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>4. George Bandarian- <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/</a></p>
<p><br /></p>
<p>5. Untapped Ventures- <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/</a></p>
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Our guests on this episode—Jonathan Corbin, Sami Shalabi, and Eugene Mann—embody that. They&apos;re pushing AI agents forward for real-world enterprise use cases with Maven AGI.

We discuss: 

• solving complex challenges with AI agents
• empowering enterprises with cutting-edge tools, and
• why agentic AI will create new roles for humankind

Let’s get into it.

Connect with us here: 

1. Jonathan Corbin- https://www.linkedin.com/in/jcorbin01/

2. Sami Shalabi- https://www.linkedin.com/in/sshalabi/

3. Eugene Mann- https://www.linkedin.com/in/eugenemann/

4. George Bandarian- https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/

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Our guests on this episode—Jonathan Corbin, Sami Shalabi, and Eugene Mann—embody that. They&apos;re pushing AI agents forward for real-world enterprise use cases with Maven AGI.

We discuss: 

• solving complex challenges with AI agents
• empowering enterprises with cutting-edge tools, and
• why agentic AI will create new roles for humankind

Let’s get into it.

Connect with us here: 

1. Jonathan Corbin- https://www.linkedin.com/in/jcorbin01/

2. Sami Shalabi- https://www.linkedin.com/in/sshalabi/

3. Eugene Mann- https://www.linkedin.com/in/eugenemann/

4. George Bandarian- https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/

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