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      <description><![CDATA[<p><strong>Spirituality and The Elephant 6 Collective With Robert Schneider</strong></p>
<p>In episodes 21 and 22 of the Pop Apocalypse, host Matt Dillon welcomes musician and mathematician Robert Schneider. Schneider is the lead singer of the psychedelic pop band The Apples in Stereo, a producer for bands including Neutral Milk Hotel and Olivia Tremor Control, and currently serves as an Assistant Professor of Mathematical Sciences at Michigan Technological University. </p>
<p>In part one, we discuss Robert’s religious upbringing in the American South before exploring the mystical dimensions of The Elephant 6 Recording Co (<a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/spirituality-and-the-elephant-6-collective-with-robert-schneider?t=8m58s" rel="noopener noreferrer">8:58</a>). We touch on the Church of the Subgenius, meditative practices, Krishna Consciousness, church camps, Surrealism, and Sun Ra’s Arkestra, then take a deep dive (<a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/spirituality-and-the-elephant-6-collective-with-robert-schneider?t=1h13m11s" rel="noopener noreferrer">1:13:11</a>) into how the Beach Boys served as the spiritual and artistic north star for Elephant 6. </p>
<p><strong>Robert Schneider bio</strong></p>
<p>Robert Schneider is a musician, producer, and mathematician. He co-founded The Elephant 6 Recording Co. in the early 1990s, a collective of independent musicians and artists. Schneider is the lead singer and songwriter for The Apples in Stereo, a psychedelic pop band that has recorded seven studio albums. As a producer, Robert recorded and mixed some of the most celebrated albums of the 1990s, including Neutral Milk Hotel’s <i>In the Aeroplane Over the Sea </i>and Olivia Tremor Control’s <i>Dusk at Cubist Castle</i>. He completed his PhD in Mathematics at Emory University in 2018, specializing in number theory and combinatorics. Robert is now Assistant Professor of Mathematical Sciences at Michigan Technological University, where he helps run the Mathematics and Music Lab.</p>
<p><strong>Subscribe to Pop Apocalypse on YouTube for new episodes after June!</strong></p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@PopApocalypse" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/@PopApocalypse</a></p>
<p>Robert Schneider links</p>
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 <li><a href="https://www.mtu.edu/math/department/faculty-staff/faculty/schneider/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Faculty page</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.thebeliever.net/encounter-with-the-infinite/" rel="noopener noreferrer">"Encounter with the Infinite"</a> article</li>
 <li><a href="https://theapplesinstereo.bandcamp.com/album/new-magnetic-wonder-2" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Apples in stereo on bandcamp</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://elephant6.com/product/apples-book/" rel="noopener noreferrer"><i>The Apples in Stereo </i>biography</a></li>
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<p>Elephant 6 links</p>
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 <li><a href="https://elephant6.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Homepage</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.elephant6movie.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Elephant 6 documentary</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.dacapopress.com/titles/adam-clair/endless-endless/9780306923944/" rel="noopener noreferrer"><i>Endless Endless</i></a><i> </i>by Adam Claire</li>
 <li><a href="https://oliviatremorcontrol.bandcamp.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Olivia Tremor Control on bandcamp</a></li>
 <li>Neutral Milk Hotel's <a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/17q5eeNk3HAjX1gzQnkTX7?si=v4VfxjebSeCeMFX5IpQzFw" rel="noopener noreferrer"><i>In the Aeroplane Over the Sea</i></a></li>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Spirituality and The Elephant 6 Collective With Robert Schneider</strong></p>
<p>In episodes 21 and 22 of the Pop Apocalypse, host Matt Dillon welcomes musician and mathematician Robert Schneider. Schneider is the lead singer of the psychedelic pop band The Apples in Stereo, a producer for bands including Neutral Milk Hotel and Olivia Tremor Control, and currently serves as an Assistant Professor of Mathematical Sciences at Michigan Technological University. </p>
<p>In part one, we discuss Robert’s religious upbringing in the American South before exploring the mystical dimensions of The Elephant 6 Recording Co (<a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/spirituality-and-the-elephant-6-collective-with-robert-schneider?t=8m58s" rel="noopener noreferrer">8:58</a>). We touch on the Church of the Subgenius, meditative practices, Krishna Consciousness, church camps, Surrealism, and Sun Ra’s Arkestra, then take a deep dive (<a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/spirituality-and-the-elephant-6-collective-with-robert-schneider?t=1h13m11s" rel="noopener noreferrer">1:13:11</a>) into how the Beach Boys served as the spiritual and artistic north star for Elephant 6. </p>
<p><strong>Robert Schneider bio</strong></p>
<p>Robert Schneider is a musician, producer, and mathematician. He co-founded The Elephant 6 Recording Co. in the early 1990s, a collective of independent musicians and artists. Schneider is the lead singer and songwriter for The Apples in Stereo, a psychedelic pop band that has recorded seven studio albums. As a producer, Robert recorded and mixed some of the most celebrated albums of the 1990s, including Neutral Milk Hotel’s <i>In the Aeroplane Over the Sea </i>and Olivia Tremor Control’s <i>Dusk at Cubist Castle</i>. He completed his PhD in Mathematics at Emory University in 2018, specializing in number theory and combinatorics. Robert is now Assistant Professor of Mathematical Sciences at Michigan Technological University, where he helps run the Mathematics and Music Lab.</p>
<p><strong>Subscribe to Pop Apocalypse on YouTube for new episodes after June!</strong></p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@PopApocalypse" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/@PopApocalypse</a></p>
<p>Robert Schneider links</p>
<ul>
 <li><a href="https://www.mtu.edu/math/department/faculty-staff/faculty/schneider/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Faculty page</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.thebeliever.net/encounter-with-the-infinite/" rel="noopener noreferrer">"Encounter with the Infinite"</a> article</li>
 <li><a href="https://theapplesinstereo.bandcamp.com/album/new-magnetic-wonder-2" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Apples in stereo on bandcamp</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://elephant6.com/product/apples-book/" rel="noopener noreferrer"><i>The Apples in Stereo </i>biography</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Elephant 6 links</p>
<ul>
 <li><a href="https://elephant6.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Homepage</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.elephant6movie.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Elephant 6 documentary</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.dacapopress.com/titles/adam-clair/endless-endless/9780306923944/" rel="noopener noreferrer"><i>Endless Endless</i></a><i> </i>by Adam Claire</li>
 <li><a href="https://oliviatremorcontrol.bandcamp.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Olivia Tremor Control on bandcamp</a></li>
 <li>Neutral Milk Hotel's <a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/17q5eeNk3HAjX1gzQnkTX7?si=v4VfxjebSeCeMFX5IpQzFw" rel="noopener noreferrer"><i>In the Aeroplane Over the Sea</i></a></li>
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In part one, we discuss Robert’s religious upbringing in the American South before exploring the mystical dimensions of The Elephant 6 Recording Co. We touch on the Church of the Subgenius, meditative practices, Krishna Consciousness, church camps, Surrealism, and Sun Ra’s Arkestra, then take a deep dive into how the Beach Boys served as the spiritual and artistic north star for Elephant 6. </itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In Pop Apocalypse, Ep. 20, we welcome actress, writer, producer, and activist, <a href="https://theamybrenneman.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Amy Brenneman</a>. After earning her B.A. in Comparative Religions at Harvard, Amy went on to a successful <a href="https://theamybrenneman.com/filmography/" rel="noopener noreferrer">acting career</a>, with star turns in the film Heat, as well as the shows like "<a href="https://play.hbomax.com/show/ce812085-7871-413f-8ceb-8c423f853427" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Leftovers</a>," "<a href="https://www.hulu.com/series/15d6075d-dc33-438b-851f-0d504405c91a" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Old Man</a>," and "Judging Amy" (which she also wrote and produced). In this wide-ranging conversation (<a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/acting-dreamwork-and-comparative-religion-a-talk-with-amy-brenneman?t=2m12s" rel="noopener noreferrer">2:12</a>), Amy and I explore how the craft of acting, study of religion, and practice of Jungian dreamwork have enriched one another throughout her career. We discuss the similarities between ritual and acting, and how a background in comparative religion helped Amy write, build, and inhabit characters. She also describes (<a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/acting-dreamwork-and-comparative-religion-a-talk-with-amy-brenneman?t=20m0s" rel="noopener noreferrer">20:00</a>) how decades of practicing active imagination and Jungian dreamwork helped her bring a mythic and numinous dimension to roles like Laurie Garvey in The Leftovers. To close (<a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/acting-dreamwork-and-comparative-religion-a-talk-with-amy-brenneman?t=1h3m9s" rel="noopener noreferrer">1:03:09</a>), we discuss Amy’s current experience as a Master’s student at Harvard Divinity School and her research into the politics and possibilities of the Trickster archtype.</p>
<p><strong>BIO</strong></p>
<p><a href="https://theamybrenneman.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>Amy Brenneman</strong></a> earned a degree in Comparative Religion at Harvard, specializing in Indo-Tibetan Religion. She was a founding member of the Cornerstone Theater Company, which specializes in site-specific community-based theater on themes of social justice; her roles included Juliet in <i>Romeo and Juliet</i>, Natasha in <i>Three Sisters</i> and Clytemnestra in <i>The Oresteia. </i><br><strong>Other theater</strong>:  CSC Rep, Lincoln Center Theater, Williamstown Theater Festival, Yale Rep and The American Repertory Theater.  She starred in the world premiere of the Pulitzer Prize-nominated <i>Rapture Blister Burn</i> (Playwrights Horizons, Geffen Theater) and <i>Power of Sail</i> opposite Bryan Cranston (Geffen Theater.)  She played Miriam of Nazareth in the world premiere of <i>Galilee 34 </i>(South Coast Rep) and starred in <i>The Sound</i> <i>Inside</i> (Pasadena Playhouse), which was named one of the years’ best performances by the Los Angeles Times.She recently starred in the world premiere of <i>Fake It Until You Make It</i> by Larissa Fasthorse at Arena Stage. </p>
<p>Amy co-created, wrote, and starred in <i>Mouth Wide Open</i> (The Yard, American Repertory Theater) and <i>Overcome </i>(The Yard, En Garde Arts, Cotuit Center for The Arts.)  She has performed original spoken word pieces at Spark, Tasty Words and Tangletuit.<br>
 Amy created, executive produced and starred in “Judging Amy” (multiple Golden Globe Emmy and SAG nominations) based on the work of her mother, the Honorable Judge Frederica Brenneman.  Other television: “NYPD Blue” (SAG award, Emmy nomination) “Frasier,” (Emmy nomination), “Heartbeat” (exec producer), “Goliath,” “VEEP,” “Private Practice,” “The Leftovers,” “Tell Me Your Secrets,” “Shining Girls” and “The Old Man.”<br><strong>Film credits include</strong> CASPER, FEAR, DAYLIGHT, HEAT, FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS, THE JANE AUSTEN BOOK CLUB, WORDS AND PICTURES, NINE LIVES, THINGS YOU CAN TELL JUST BY LOOKING AT HER and MOTHER AND CHILD.</p>
<p>For her activist work, Amy has been honored by Women in Film, The Brady Center, the League of Women Voters, the California State Assembly, the National Children’s Alliance, the Chime Institute, Children’s Hospital Los Angeles, the Help Group, the Producer’s Guild of America, among others. Amy currently serves on the Creative Council for the Center for Reproductive Rights and received the Eleanor Roosevelt Award from The Feminist Majority for her ongoing commitment to reproductive rights.</p>
<p>Amy is married to writer/director Brad Silberling and has two children, Charlotte and Bodhi. Currently she attends Harvard Divinity School in the Master of Religion and Public Life program, researching the role of the Trickster archetype in ritual and activism. </p>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Pop Apocalypse, Ep. 20, we welcome actress, writer, producer, and activist, <a href="https://theamybrenneman.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Amy Brenneman</a>. After earning her B.A. in Comparative Religions at Harvard, Amy went on to a successful <a href="https://theamybrenneman.com/filmography/" rel="noopener noreferrer">acting career</a>, with star turns in the film Heat, as well as the shows like "<a href="https://play.hbomax.com/show/ce812085-7871-413f-8ceb-8c423f853427" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Leftovers</a>," "<a href="https://www.hulu.com/series/15d6075d-dc33-438b-851f-0d504405c91a" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Old Man</a>," and "Judging Amy" (which she also wrote and produced). In this wide-ranging conversation (<a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/acting-dreamwork-and-comparative-religion-a-talk-with-amy-brenneman?t=2m12s" rel="noopener noreferrer">2:12</a>), Amy and I explore how the craft of acting, study of religion, and practice of Jungian dreamwork have enriched one another throughout her career. We discuss the similarities between ritual and acting, and how a background in comparative religion helped Amy write, build, and inhabit characters. She also describes (<a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/acting-dreamwork-and-comparative-religion-a-talk-with-amy-brenneman?t=20m0s" rel="noopener noreferrer">20:00</a>) how decades of practicing active imagination and Jungian dreamwork helped her bring a mythic and numinous dimension to roles like Laurie Garvey in The Leftovers. To close (<a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/acting-dreamwork-and-comparative-religion-a-talk-with-amy-brenneman?t=1h3m9s" rel="noopener noreferrer">1:03:09</a>), we discuss Amy’s current experience as a Master’s student at Harvard Divinity School and her research into the politics and possibilities of the Trickster archtype.</p>
<p><strong>BIO</strong></p>
<p><a href="https://theamybrenneman.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>Amy Brenneman</strong></a> earned a degree in Comparative Religion at Harvard, specializing in Indo-Tibetan Religion. She was a founding member of the Cornerstone Theater Company, which specializes in site-specific community-based theater on themes of social justice; her roles included Juliet in <i>Romeo and Juliet</i>, Natasha in <i>Three Sisters</i> and Clytemnestra in <i>The Oresteia. </i><br><strong>Other theater</strong>:  CSC Rep, Lincoln Center Theater, Williamstown Theater Festival, Yale Rep and The American Repertory Theater.  She starred in the world premiere of the Pulitzer Prize-nominated <i>Rapture Blister Burn</i> (Playwrights Horizons, Geffen Theater) and <i>Power of Sail</i> opposite Bryan Cranston (Geffen Theater.)  She played Miriam of Nazareth in the world premiere of <i>Galilee 34 </i>(South Coast Rep) and starred in <i>The Sound</i> <i>Inside</i> (Pasadena Playhouse), which was named one of the years’ best performances by the Los Angeles Times.She recently starred in the world premiere of <i>Fake It Until You Make It</i> by Larissa Fasthorse at Arena Stage. </p>
<p>Amy co-created, wrote, and starred in <i>Mouth Wide Open</i> (The Yard, American Repertory Theater) and <i>Overcome </i>(The Yard, En Garde Arts, Cotuit Center for The Arts.)  She has performed original spoken word pieces at Spark, Tasty Words and Tangletuit.<br>
 Amy created, executive produced and starred in “Judging Amy” (multiple Golden Globe Emmy and SAG nominations) based on the work of her mother, the Honorable Judge Frederica Brenneman.  Other television: “NYPD Blue” (SAG award, Emmy nomination) “Frasier,” (Emmy nomination), “Heartbeat” (exec producer), “Goliath,” “VEEP,” “Private Practice,” “The Leftovers,” “Tell Me Your Secrets,” “Shining Girls” and “The Old Man.”<br><strong>Film credits include</strong> CASPER, FEAR, DAYLIGHT, HEAT, FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS, THE JANE AUSTEN BOOK CLUB, WORDS AND PICTURES, NINE LIVES, THINGS YOU CAN TELL JUST BY LOOKING AT HER and MOTHER AND CHILD.</p>
<p>For her activist work, Amy has been honored by Women in Film, The Brady Center, the League of Women Voters, the California State Assembly, the National Children’s Alliance, the Chime Institute, Children’s Hospital Los Angeles, the Help Group, the Producer’s Guild of America, among others. Amy currently serves on the Creative Council for the Center for Reproductive Rights and received the Eleanor Roosevelt Award from The Feminist Majority for her ongoing commitment to reproductive rights.</p>
<p>Amy is married to writer/director Brad Silberling and has two children, Charlotte and Bodhi. Currently she attends Harvard Divinity School in the Master of Religion and Public Life program, researching the role of the Trickster archetype in ritual and activism. </p>
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      <itunes:summary>For episode 20 of Pop Apocalypse, we welcome actress, writer, producer, and activist, Amy Brenneman. After earning her B.A. in Comparative Religions at Harvard, Amy went on to a successful acting career, with star turns in the film Heat, as well as the shows like The Leftovers, The Old Man, and Judging Amy (which she also wrote and produced). In this wide-ranging conversation, Amy and I explore how the craft of acting, study of religion, and practice of Jungian dreamwork have enriched one another throughout her career. We discuss the similarities between ritual and acting, and how a background in comparative religion helped Amy write, build, and inhabit characters. Amy also describes how decades of practicing active imagination and Jungian dreamwork helped her bring a mythic and numinous dimension to roles like Laurie Garvey in The Leftovers. To close, we discuss Amy’s current experience as a Master’s student at Harvard Divinity School and her research into the politics and possibilities of the Trickster.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>For episode 20 of Pop Apocalypse, we welcome actress, writer, producer, and activist, Amy Brenneman. After earning her B.A. in Comparative Religions at Harvard, Amy went on to a successful acting career, with star turns in the film Heat, as well as the shows like The Leftovers, The Old Man, and Judging Amy (which she also wrote and produced). In this wide-ranging conversation, Amy and I explore how the craft of acting, study of religion, and practice of Jungian dreamwork have enriched one another throughout her career. We discuss the similarities between ritual and acting, and how a background in comparative religion helped Amy write, build, and inhabit characters. Amy also describes how decades of practicing active imagination and Jungian dreamwork helped her bring a mythic and numinous dimension to roles like Laurie Garvey in The Leftovers. To close, we discuss Amy’s current experience as a Master’s student at Harvard Divinity School and her research into the politics and possibilities of the Trickster.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In Pop Apocalypse, Ep. 19, we welcome author and musician, Gary Lachman, to the show. Lachman was the original bassist for the seminal new wave band, Blondie. He later became an intellectual historian; to date, Lachman has published twenty-six books, most recently a memoir, <i>Touched by the Presence: From Blondie’s Bowery and Rock and Roll to Magic and the Occult</i> (Inner Traditions, 2025). In this wide-ranging chat (<a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/from-rock-star-to-occult-historian-a-talk-with-gary-lachman?t=3m1s">3:01</a>), we discuss how Lachman’s reading of comics and Lovecraft inspired a lifelong interest in the occult, his early days in Blondie, and how he came to Crowleyan magick. Then we turn to Lachman’s time practicing “The Work” of Gurdjieff, his relationship with the author Colin Wilson, and how keeping a dream journal can change our view of the nature of time.</p><p><strong>Gary Lachman Bio</strong></p><p>Gary Lachman is an author and lecturer on consciousness, counterculture, and the Western esoteric tradition. His works include <i>Dark Star Rising </i>(Tarcher, 2018), <i>Beyond the Robot</i> (TarcherPerigee, 2016), and <i>The Secret Teachers of the Western World</i> (Tarcher, 2015). A founding member of the rock band Blondie, he was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2006. He lives in London.</p><p>Gary Lachman's <a href="https://www.gary-lachman.com/">webpage</a></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Touched-Presence-Blondies-Bowery-Occult/dp/B0DSV388DQ"><i>Touched by the Presence: From Blondie's Bowery and Rock and Roll to Magic and the Occult</i></a></p><p><strong>CSWR EVENTS</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Charles Stang and Sarah Schorr, "</strong><a href="https://cswr.hds.harvard.edu/news/upcoming-events?trumbaEmbed=view%3Devent%26eventid%3D195039689"><strong>Thoreau's Solar and Lunar Philosophy</strong></a><strong>."</strong></li><li><strong>Jane Hirschfield: </strong><a href="https://cswr.hds.harvard.edu/news/upcoming-events?trumbaEmbed=view%3Devent%26eventid%3D194708827"><strong>A Reading.</strong></a></li></ul>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2026 22:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Pop Apocalypse, Ep. 19, we welcome author and musician, Gary Lachman, to the show. Lachman was the original bassist for the seminal new wave band, Blondie. He later became an intellectual historian; to date, Lachman has published twenty-six books, most recently a memoir, <i>Touched by the Presence: From Blondie’s Bowery and Rock and Roll to Magic and the Occult</i> (Inner Traditions, 2025). In this wide-ranging chat (<a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/from-rock-star-to-occult-historian-a-talk-with-gary-lachman?t=3m1s">3:01</a>), we discuss how Lachman’s reading of comics and Lovecraft inspired a lifelong interest in the occult, his early days in Blondie, and how he came to Crowleyan magick. Then we turn to Lachman’s time practicing “The Work” of Gurdjieff, his relationship with the author Colin Wilson, and how keeping a dream journal can change our view of the nature of time.</p><p><strong>Gary Lachman Bio</strong></p><p>Gary Lachman is an author and lecturer on consciousness, counterculture, and the Western esoteric tradition. His works include <i>Dark Star Rising </i>(Tarcher, 2018), <i>Beyond the Robot</i> (TarcherPerigee, 2016), and <i>The Secret Teachers of the Western World</i> (Tarcher, 2015). A founding member of the rock band Blondie, he was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2006. He lives in London.</p><p>Gary Lachman's <a href="https://www.gary-lachman.com/">webpage</a></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Touched-Presence-Blondies-Bowery-Occult/dp/B0DSV388DQ"><i>Touched by the Presence: From Blondie's Bowery and Rock and Roll to Magic and the Occult</i></a></p><p><strong>CSWR EVENTS</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Charles Stang and Sarah Schorr, "</strong><a href="https://cswr.hds.harvard.edu/news/upcoming-events?trumbaEmbed=view%3Devent%26eventid%3D195039689"><strong>Thoreau's Solar and Lunar Philosophy</strong></a><strong>."</strong></li><li><strong>Jane Hirschfield: </strong><a href="https://cswr.hds.harvard.edu/news/upcoming-events?trumbaEmbed=view%3Devent%26eventid%3D194708827"><strong>A Reading.</strong></a></li></ul>
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      <itunes:summary>In Pop Apocalypse, Ep. 19, we welcome author and musician, Gary Lachman, to the show. Lachman was the original bassist for the seminal new wave band, Blondie. He later became an intellectual historian; to date, Lachman has published twenty-six books, most recently a memoir, Touched by the Presence: From Blondie’s Bowery and Rock and Roll to Magic and the Occult (Inner Traditions, 2025). In this wide-ranging chat, we discuss how Lachman’s reading of comics and Lovecraft inspired a lifelong interest in the occult, his early days in Blondie, and how he came to Crowleyan magick. Then we turn to Lachman’s time practicing “The Work” of Gurdjieff, his relationship with the author Colin Wilson, and how keeping a dream journal can change our view of the nature of time.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>In Pop Apocalypse, Ep. 19, we welcome author and musician, Gary Lachman, to the show. Lachman was the original bassist for the seminal new wave band, Blondie. He later became an intellectual historian; to date, Lachman has published twenty-six books, most recently a memoir, Touched by the Presence: From Blondie’s Bowery and Rock and Roll to Magic and the Occult (Inner Traditions, 2025). In this wide-ranging chat, we discuss how Lachman’s reading of comics and Lovecraft inspired a lifelong interest in the occult, his early days in Blondie, and how he came to Crowleyan magick. Then we turn to Lachman’s time practicing “The Work” of Gurdjieff, his relationship with the author Colin Wilson, and how keeping a dream journal can change our view of the nature of time.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In Pop Apocalypse, Ep. 18, we welcome theologian, author, and Episcopal priest Cynthia Bourgeault, whose work combines the Christian contemplative and wisdom traditions, “The Work” of GI Gurdjieff, and the philosophy of Henry Corbin into a lived mystical theology. Throughout the episode (<a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/integrating-wisdom-christianity-and-the-work-of-gi-gurdjieff-a-talk-with-cynthia-bourgeault?t=2m38s">2:38</a>), we explore Cynthia’s religious upbringing and early mystical awakening, her academic training in Medieval sacred drama, and her decision to pursue the priesthood. Then we take a deep dive (<a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/integrating-wisdom-christianity-and-the-work-of-gi-gurdjieff-a-talk-with-cynthia-bourgeault?t=14m1s">14:01</a>) into Bourgeault’s relationship with the practice and theory of The Work, and how she has integrated them into the Christian wisdom tradition. As the interview ends (<a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/integrating-wisdom-christianity-and-the-work-of-gi-gurdjieff-a-talk-with-cynthia-bourgeault?t=55m37s">55:37</a>), Cynthia and I discuss the benefits of a hermit's life, the influence of the <i>Gospel of Thomas</i>, and how contemplative Christianity resonates with the spiritual concerns of many in the early twenty-first century. </p><p>Watch the episode on <a href="https://youtu.be/WY3XhIbGGmo?si=QpjslrNLoYHMUMjB">YouTube</a></p><p><strong>Bio</strong>:<br />Cynthia Bourgeault is a modern-day mystic, Episcopal priest, writer, and internationally known retreat leader. She is the author of numerous books, including <i>Eye of the Heart: A Spiritual Journey into the Imaginal Realm</i>(Shambhala, 2020)and <i>The Heart of Centering Prayer: Nondual Christianity in Theory and Practice </i>(Shambhala, 2016).She divides her time between solitude and sailing the waters around her seaside hermitage in Maine, and a demanding schedule traveling globally to teach and spread the recovery of the Christian contemplative and Wisdom paths.</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://wisdomwaypoints.org/">Wisdom Waypoints</a></li><li>Cynthia Bourgeault's <a href="https://cynthiabourgeault.substack.com/">Substack</a></li><li><a href="https://www.cynthiabourgeault.org/">CynthiaBourgeault.org</a></li><li>Bourgeault's <a href="https://www.cynthiabourgeault.org/books">published books</a>.</li><li>Jacob Needleman's<a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/lost-christianity-a-journey-of-rediscovery-jacob-needleman/c8da5df6799c392d?ean=9781585422531&next=t"> <i>Lost Christianity</i></a><i>.</i></li><li>YouTube links to the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLX_9feVneSp2RoGtFCYcIwdNl2vyq8YW0">G.I. Gurdjieff conference at the CSWR</a> (Dec. 2024)</li></ul><p> </p>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2025 21:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>mdillon@hds.harvard.edu (Cynthia Bourgeault, Matthew J. Dillon, Secret Chiefs 3)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Pop Apocalypse, Ep. 18, we welcome theologian, author, and Episcopal priest Cynthia Bourgeault, whose work combines the Christian contemplative and wisdom traditions, “The Work” of GI Gurdjieff, and the philosophy of Henry Corbin into a lived mystical theology. Throughout the episode (<a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/integrating-wisdom-christianity-and-the-work-of-gi-gurdjieff-a-talk-with-cynthia-bourgeault?t=2m38s">2:38</a>), we explore Cynthia’s religious upbringing and early mystical awakening, her academic training in Medieval sacred drama, and her decision to pursue the priesthood. Then we take a deep dive (<a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/integrating-wisdom-christianity-and-the-work-of-gi-gurdjieff-a-talk-with-cynthia-bourgeault?t=14m1s">14:01</a>) into Bourgeault’s relationship with the practice and theory of The Work, and how she has integrated them into the Christian wisdom tradition. As the interview ends (<a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/integrating-wisdom-christianity-and-the-work-of-gi-gurdjieff-a-talk-with-cynthia-bourgeault?t=55m37s">55:37</a>), Cynthia and I discuss the benefits of a hermit's life, the influence of the <i>Gospel of Thomas</i>, and how contemplative Christianity resonates with the spiritual concerns of many in the early twenty-first century. </p><p>Watch the episode on <a href="https://youtu.be/WY3XhIbGGmo?si=QpjslrNLoYHMUMjB">YouTube</a></p><p><strong>Bio</strong>:<br />Cynthia Bourgeault is a modern-day mystic, Episcopal priest, writer, and internationally known retreat leader. She is the author of numerous books, including <i>Eye of the Heart: A Spiritual Journey into the Imaginal Realm</i>(Shambhala, 2020)and <i>The Heart of Centering Prayer: Nondual Christianity in Theory and Practice </i>(Shambhala, 2016).She divides her time between solitude and sailing the waters around her seaside hermitage in Maine, and a demanding schedule traveling globally to teach and spread the recovery of the Christian contemplative and Wisdom paths.</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://wisdomwaypoints.org/">Wisdom Waypoints</a></li><li>Cynthia Bourgeault's <a href="https://cynthiabourgeault.substack.com/">Substack</a></li><li><a href="https://www.cynthiabourgeault.org/">CynthiaBourgeault.org</a></li><li>Bourgeault's <a href="https://www.cynthiabourgeault.org/books">published books</a>.</li><li>Jacob Needleman's<a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/lost-christianity-a-journey-of-rediscovery-jacob-needleman/c8da5df6799c392d?ean=9781585422531&next=t"> <i>Lost Christianity</i></a><i>.</i></li><li>YouTube links to the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLX_9feVneSp2RoGtFCYcIwdNl2vyq8YW0">G.I. Gurdjieff conference at the CSWR</a> (Dec. 2024)</li></ul><p> </p>
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      <itunes:summary>In Pop Apocalypse, Ep. 18, we welcome theologian, author, and Episcopal priest Cynthia Bourgeault, whose work combines the Christian contemplative and wisdom traditions, “The Work” of GI Gurdjieff, and the philosophy of Henry Corbin into a lived mystical theology. Throughout the episode, we explore Cynthia’s religious upbringing and early mystical awakening, her academic training in Medieval sacred drama, and her decision to pursue the priesthood. Then we take a deep dive into Bourgeault’s relationship with the practice and theory of The Work, and how she has integrated them into the Christian wisdom tradition. As the interview ends, Cynthia and I discuss the benefits of a hermit&apos;s life, the influence of the Gospel of Thomas, and how contemplative Christianity resonates with the spiritual concerns of many in the early twenty-first century. 

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      <title>Mysticism and the Simulation Hypothesis – A Talk with Rizwan Virk</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Do we live inside a Matrix-like simulation? For Episode 17 of <i>Pop Apocalypse</i>, we welcome one of the leading theorists behind the simulation hypothesis, Rizwan Virk, to discuss that question. Virk is an entrepreneur, videogame pioneer, and academic author of two major works on simulation theory:<a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-simulation-hypothesis-an-mit-computer-scientist-shows-why-ai-quantum-physics-and-eastern-mystics-all-agree-we-are-in-a-video-game-rizwan-virk/0dc0f2360732639a?ean=9780593853382&next=t" target="_blank"><i>The Simulation Hypothesis</i></a><i> </i>(Tarcher, 2025) and <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-simulated-multiverse-an-mit-computer-scientist-explores-parallel-universes-the-simulation-hypothesis-quantum-computing-and-the-mandela-effect-ri/4f9ddcccca4ad713?ean=9781954872035&next=t" target="_blank"><i>The Simulated Multiverse </i></a>(Bayview Books, 2021)<i>. </i>In the interview (<a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/mysticism-and-the-simulation-hypothesis-a-talk-with-rizwan-virk?t=3m51s" target="_blank">3:51</a>), we discuss the technologies necessary to make a Matrix-like simulation possible and how close we are to achieving them. Then we turn to the religious and mystical dimensions of simulation theory (<a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/mysticism-and-the-simulation-hypothesis-a-talk-with-rizwan-virk?t=29m43s" target="_blank">29:43</a>), exploring reincarnation, out-of-body experiences, UAPs, angels, and the anthropocentrism and ethical pitfalls of simulation theory.</p><p><strong>Rizwan Virk bio</strong></p><p>A graduate of MIT and Stanford University,  Rizwan Virk, PhD, is a successful entrepreneur, video game pioneer, film producer, venture capitalist, professor, and bestselling author of<a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-simulation-hypothesis-an-mit-computer-scientist-shows-why-ai-quantum-physics-and-eastern-mystics-all-agree-we-are-in-a-video-game-rizwan-virk/0dc0f2360732639a?ean=9780593853382&next=t" target="_blank"> <i>The Simulation Hypothesis</i></a><i> </i>(Tarcher, 2025)<i>, </i><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/wisdom-of-a-yogi-lessons-for-modern-seekers-from-autobiography-of-a-yogi-rizwan-virk/51acdb13af7cd349?ean=9781954872103&next=t" target="_blank"><i>Wisdom of a Yogi</i></a>(Bayview Books, 2023), and <i>The </i><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-simulated-multiverse-an-mit-computer-scientist-explores-parallel-universes-the-simulation-hypothesis-quantum-computing-and-the-mandela-effect-ri/4f9ddcccca4ad713?ean=9781954872035&next=t" target="_blank"><i>Simulated Multiverse </i></a>(Bayview Books, 2021). Virk’s video games, including <i>Tap Fish</i> and <i>Penny Dreadful: Demimonde</i>, have been played by millions. He is the founder and executive director of Play Labs @ MIT, a video game accelerator at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and currently teaches at Arizona State University.</p><p><a href="https://www.zenentrepreneur.com/" target="_blank"><strong>Rizwan Virk's Homepage</strong></a></p><p><a href="https://linktr.ee/PopApocalypsePodcast"><strong>Pop Apocalypse linktree</strong></a></p>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do we live inside a Matrix-like simulation? For Episode 17 of <i>Pop Apocalypse</i>, we welcome one of the leading theorists behind the simulation hypothesis, Rizwan Virk, to discuss that question. Virk is an entrepreneur, videogame pioneer, and academic author of two major works on simulation theory:<a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-simulation-hypothesis-an-mit-computer-scientist-shows-why-ai-quantum-physics-and-eastern-mystics-all-agree-we-are-in-a-video-game-rizwan-virk/0dc0f2360732639a?ean=9780593853382&next=t" target="_blank"><i>The Simulation Hypothesis</i></a><i> </i>(Tarcher, 2025) and <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-simulated-multiverse-an-mit-computer-scientist-explores-parallel-universes-the-simulation-hypothesis-quantum-computing-and-the-mandela-effect-ri/4f9ddcccca4ad713?ean=9781954872035&next=t" target="_blank"><i>The Simulated Multiverse </i></a>(Bayview Books, 2021)<i>. </i>In the interview (<a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/mysticism-and-the-simulation-hypothesis-a-talk-with-rizwan-virk?t=3m51s" target="_blank">3:51</a>), we discuss the technologies necessary to make a Matrix-like simulation possible and how close we are to achieving them. Then we turn to the religious and mystical dimensions of simulation theory (<a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/mysticism-and-the-simulation-hypothesis-a-talk-with-rizwan-virk?t=29m43s" target="_blank">29:43</a>), exploring reincarnation, out-of-body experiences, UAPs, angels, and the anthropocentrism and ethical pitfalls of simulation theory.</p><p><strong>Rizwan Virk bio</strong></p><p>A graduate of MIT and Stanford University,  Rizwan Virk, PhD, is a successful entrepreneur, video game pioneer, film producer, venture capitalist, professor, and bestselling author of<a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-simulation-hypothesis-an-mit-computer-scientist-shows-why-ai-quantum-physics-and-eastern-mystics-all-agree-we-are-in-a-video-game-rizwan-virk/0dc0f2360732639a?ean=9780593853382&next=t" target="_blank"> <i>The Simulation Hypothesis</i></a><i> </i>(Tarcher, 2025)<i>, </i><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/wisdom-of-a-yogi-lessons-for-modern-seekers-from-autobiography-of-a-yogi-rizwan-virk/51acdb13af7cd349?ean=9781954872103&next=t" target="_blank"><i>Wisdom of a Yogi</i></a>(Bayview Books, 2023), and <i>The </i><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-simulated-multiverse-an-mit-computer-scientist-explores-parallel-universes-the-simulation-hypothesis-quantum-computing-and-the-mandela-effect-ri/4f9ddcccca4ad713?ean=9781954872035&next=t" target="_blank"><i>Simulated Multiverse </i></a>(Bayview Books, 2021). Virk’s video games, including <i>Tap Fish</i> and <i>Penny Dreadful: Demimonde</i>, have been played by millions. He is the founder and executive director of Play Labs @ MIT, a video game accelerator at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and currently teaches at Arizona State University.</p><p><a href="https://www.zenentrepreneur.com/" target="_blank"><strong>Rizwan Virk's Homepage</strong></a></p><p><a href="https://linktr.ee/PopApocalypsePodcast"><strong>Pop Apocalypse linktree</strong></a></p>
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      <itunes:summary>Do we live inside a Matrix-like simulation? For Episode 17 of Pop Apocalypse, we welcome one of the leading theorists behind the simulation hypothesis, Rizwan Virk, to discuss that question. Virk is an entrepreneur, videogame pioneer, and academic author of two major works on simulation theory: The Simulation Hypothesis (Tarcher, 2025) and The Simulated Multiverse (Bayview Books, 2021). In the interview, we discuss the technologies necessary to make a Matrix-like simulation possible and how close we are to achieving them. Then we turn to the religious and mystical dimensions of simulation theory, exploring reincarnation, out-of-body experiences, UAPs, angels, and the anthropocentrism and ethical pitfalls of simulation theory.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Do we live inside a Matrix-like simulation? For Episode 17 of Pop Apocalypse, we welcome one of the leading theorists behind the simulation hypothesis, Rizwan Virk, to discuss that question. Virk is an entrepreneur, videogame pioneer, and academic author of two major works on simulation theory: The Simulation Hypothesis (Tarcher, 2025) and The Simulated Multiverse (Bayview Books, 2021). In the interview, we discuss the technologies necessary to make a Matrix-like simulation possible and how close we are to achieving them. Then we turn to the religious and mystical dimensions of simulation theory, exploring reincarnation, out-of-body experiences, UAPs, angels, and the anthropocentrism and ethical pitfalls of simulation theory.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>For Episode 16 of Pop Apocalypse, we welcome composer, artist, and media theorist Paul Miller. Miller is best known for his music as DJ Spooky, the avant-garde turntableist who has collaborated with artists ranging from Chuck D to Yoko Ono. He has also re-scored classic films, such as <i>The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari</i>, and his art has been showcased in exhibitions at the Whitney Museum of American Art. </p><p>In this wide-ranging conversation (<a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/ai-hip-hop-and-the-digital-uncanny-a-talk-with-paul-miller-aka-dj-spooky?t=6m12s" target="_blank">6:12</a>), we asked Paul to explore the eeriness of life in the digital age. We touch on the perils and possibilities of artificial intelligence, the role of the DJ, Japanese Butoh as a response to nuclear tragedy, re-scoring D.W. Griffith’s <i>The Birth of a Nation</i>, and how Einstein, science fiction, and Sun Ra have shaped Miller’s work. </p><p><strong>Paul Miller bio</strong></p><p>Paul D. Miller, aka DJ Spooky, is currently at work on two books: one about the impact of algorithms on how we think of storytelling, <i>Digital Fiction</i> for Duke University Press, and <i>The Future of Food</i>, about the impact of AI on how we think of the production of food in the twenty-first century. He was Artist in Residence at Yale University Center for Collaborative Arts and Media (2023-2024). He is a composer, multimedia artist, and writer whose work engages audiences in a blend of genres, global culture, and environmental and social issues. Miller has collaborated with an array of recording artists, including Ryuichi Sakamoto, Metallica, Chuck D from Public Enemy, Steve Reich, and Yoko Ono, among many others. His 2018 album, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/6fPkYcrVlhNTPbSb1r2hyZ?si=ItevBsXFRBCGxXmkRfTe5g" target="_blank">DJ Spooky Presents: Phantom Dancehall</a>, debuted at No. 3 on Billboard Reggae.</p><p><strong>Paul Miller links</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://djspooky.com/" target="_blank">Homepage</a></li><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/59FLtEnXNqYKwT5M3W3XoG?si=qFWiuWHrQ5qRw8z8Dn06QA" target="_blank"><i>Songs of a Dead Dreamer</i></a></li><li><a href="https://djspooky.com/butoh/">Japanese Butoh</a></li><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/77Uz65gZcsoZNHbwGpigYh?si=tdsbp3xeTCSAg2uNJqz0DA" target="_blank"><i>Rebirth of a Nation</i></a></li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/rhythm-science-paul-d-miller/a96ecba4302d411c?ean=9780262632874&next=t&next=t" target="_blank"><i>Rhythm Science</i></a></li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/sound-unbound-sampling-digital-music-and-culture-paul-d-miller/20136003dff3534e?ean=9780262266468&next=t&next=t"><i>Sound Unbound</i></a></li></ul><p>Pop Apocalypse links</p><ul><li><a href="https://linktr.ee/PopApocalypsePodcast?utm_source=linktree_profile_share&ltsid=17cbf8a9-9a1a-4b8e-ba4d-fe25ba6cd1e9" target="_blank">Linktree</a></li><li><a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLX_9feVneSp3MKVKN4mu_VdJ-hIdMtfPv&si=tCEOzuq1tVvrr7cT" target="_blank">YouTube</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/popapocalypsepod/?hl=en" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li><li><a href="https://cswr.hds.harvard.edu/research-programming/transcendence-transformation/pop-apocalypse-podcast" target="_blank">CSWR landing page</a></li><li>Email us at popapocalypse@hds.harvard.edu</li></ul><p> </p>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2025 13:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>mdillon@hds.harvard.edu (Paul Miller, DJ Spooky, Matthew J. Dillon, Secret Chiefs 3)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Episode 16 of Pop Apocalypse, we welcome composer, artist, and media theorist Paul Miller. Miller is best known for his music as DJ Spooky, the avant-garde turntableist who has collaborated with artists ranging from Chuck D to Yoko Ono. He has also re-scored classic films, such as <i>The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari</i>, and his art has been showcased in exhibitions at the Whitney Museum of American Art. </p><p>In this wide-ranging conversation (<a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/ai-hip-hop-and-the-digital-uncanny-a-talk-with-paul-miller-aka-dj-spooky?t=6m12s" target="_blank">6:12</a>), we asked Paul to explore the eeriness of life in the digital age. We touch on the perils and possibilities of artificial intelligence, the role of the DJ, Japanese Butoh as a response to nuclear tragedy, re-scoring D.W. Griffith’s <i>The Birth of a Nation</i>, and how Einstein, science fiction, and Sun Ra have shaped Miller’s work. </p><p><strong>Paul Miller bio</strong></p><p>Paul D. Miller, aka DJ Spooky, is currently at work on two books: one about the impact of algorithms on how we think of storytelling, <i>Digital Fiction</i> for Duke University Press, and <i>The Future of Food</i>, about the impact of AI on how we think of the production of food in the twenty-first century. He was Artist in Residence at Yale University Center for Collaborative Arts and Media (2023-2024). He is a composer, multimedia artist, and writer whose work engages audiences in a blend of genres, global culture, and environmental and social issues. Miller has collaborated with an array of recording artists, including Ryuichi Sakamoto, Metallica, Chuck D from Public Enemy, Steve Reich, and Yoko Ono, among many others. His 2018 album, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/6fPkYcrVlhNTPbSb1r2hyZ?si=ItevBsXFRBCGxXmkRfTe5g" target="_blank">DJ Spooky Presents: Phantom Dancehall</a>, debuted at No. 3 on Billboard Reggae.</p><p><strong>Paul Miller links</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://djspooky.com/" target="_blank">Homepage</a></li><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/59FLtEnXNqYKwT5M3W3XoG?si=qFWiuWHrQ5qRw8z8Dn06QA" target="_blank"><i>Songs of a Dead Dreamer</i></a></li><li><a href="https://djspooky.com/butoh/">Japanese Butoh</a></li><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/77Uz65gZcsoZNHbwGpigYh?si=tdsbp3xeTCSAg2uNJqz0DA" target="_blank"><i>Rebirth of a Nation</i></a></li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/rhythm-science-paul-d-miller/a96ecba4302d411c?ean=9780262632874&next=t&next=t" target="_blank"><i>Rhythm Science</i></a></li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/sound-unbound-sampling-digital-music-and-culture-paul-d-miller/20136003dff3534e?ean=9780262266468&next=t&next=t"><i>Sound Unbound</i></a></li></ul><p>Pop Apocalypse links</p><ul><li><a href="https://linktr.ee/PopApocalypsePodcast?utm_source=linktree_profile_share&ltsid=17cbf8a9-9a1a-4b8e-ba4d-fe25ba6cd1e9" target="_blank">Linktree</a></li><li><a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLX_9feVneSp3MKVKN4mu_VdJ-hIdMtfPv&si=tCEOzuq1tVvrr7cT" target="_blank">YouTube</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/popapocalypsepod/?hl=en" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li><li><a href="https://cswr.hds.harvard.edu/research-programming/transcendence-transformation/pop-apocalypse-podcast" target="_blank">CSWR landing page</a></li><li>Email us at popapocalypse@hds.harvard.edu</li></ul><p> </p>
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      <itunes:summary>For Episode 16 of Pop Apocalypse, we welcome composer, artist, and media theorist Paul Miller. Miller is best known for his music as DJ Spooky, the avant-garde turntableist who has collaborated with artists ranging from Chuck D to Yoko Ono. He has also re-scored classic films, such as The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, and his art has been showcased in exhibitions at the Whitney Museum of American Art. 
 
In this wide-ranging conversation, we asked Paul to explore the eeriness of life in the digital age. We touch on the perils and possibilities of artificial intelligence, the role of the DJ, Japanese Butoh as a response to nuclear tragedy, D.W. Griffith’s The Birth of a Nation, and how science fiction, Einstein, and Sun Ra have shaped Miller’s work. </itunes:summary>
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In this wide-ranging conversation, we asked Paul to explore the eeriness of life in the digital age. We touch on the perils and possibilities of artificial intelligence, the role of the DJ, Japanese Butoh as a response to nuclear tragedy, D.W. Griffith’s The Birth of a Nation, and how science fiction, Einstein, and Sun Ra have shaped Miller’s work. </itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Gnostic Myth in Film - A Talk with Fryderyk Kwiatkowski</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>For episode 15 of Pop Apocalypse, we welcome assistant professor, Fryderyk Kwiatkowski, on to discuss the relationship between ancient Gnostic myth and modern cinema. Fryderyk takes us through the impact European intellectuals <a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/gnostic-myth-on-film-a-talk-with-fryderyk-kwiatkowski?t=20m29s">20:29</a> Carl Jung, Hans Jonas, and Eric Voegelin on popular conceptions of Gnosticism. We then dive into analyses of the Gnostic elements in films <a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/gnostic-myth-on-film-a-talk-with-fryderyk-kwiatkowski?t=34m34s">34:34</a> like the Matrix, Dark City, Truman Show, and more recent cinema like Free Guy, Chappie, and the television series Silo.</p><p><strong>BIO</strong><br />Fryderyk Kwiatkowski is an Assistant at AGH University of Krakow. He earned a joint doctoral degree from the University of Groningen and the Jagiellonian University in 2023 with a thesis entitled <i>Gnosticism in Hollywood: From European Academia to American Popular Culture</i>. His research interests encompass the cultural reception of late antique esoteric traditions, their intersections with discourses on utopias and dystopias, and the (not-so-obvious) intertwinement of popular media, philosophy, and religion. He is currently developing a project on the role of imagination in contemporary technoculture, with a focus on the feedback loops between transhumanism, science fiction, and esotericism. He has published his research in venues such as Gnosis: Journal of Gnostic Studies, CLCWeb: Comparative Literature and Culture, Journal of Religion and Film.</p><p><strong>NOTES</strong><br />Fryderyk Kwiatkowski<br /><a href="https://agh.academia.edu/FryderykKwiatkowski">Academia.edu</a><br /><a href="https://pure.rug.nl/ws/portalfiles/portal/837416004/Complete_thesis.pdf"><i>Gnosticism in Hollywood: From European Academia to American Popular Culture</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.academia.edu/44192807/Eric_Voegelin_and_Gnostic_Hollywood_Cinematic_Portrayals_of_the_Immanentization_of_the_Eschaton_in_Dark_City_1998_and_Pleasantville_1998_">"Eric Voegelin and Gnostic Hollywood"</a><br /><a href="https://www.academia.edu/32197237/How_To_Attain_Liberation_From_a_False_World_The_Gnostic_Myth_of_Sophia_in_Dark_City_1998_">"How to Attain Liberation from a False World? The Gnostic Myth of Sophia in Dark City."</a></p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2025 15:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>mdillon@hds.harvard.edu (Fryderyk Kwiatkowski, Matthew J. Dillon, Secret Chiefs 3)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For episode 15 of Pop Apocalypse, we welcome assistant professor, Fryderyk Kwiatkowski, on to discuss the relationship between ancient Gnostic myth and modern cinema. Fryderyk takes us through the impact European intellectuals <a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/gnostic-myth-on-film-a-talk-with-fryderyk-kwiatkowski?t=20m29s">20:29</a> Carl Jung, Hans Jonas, and Eric Voegelin on popular conceptions of Gnosticism. We then dive into analyses of the Gnostic elements in films <a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/gnostic-myth-on-film-a-talk-with-fryderyk-kwiatkowski?t=34m34s">34:34</a> like the Matrix, Dark City, Truman Show, and more recent cinema like Free Guy, Chappie, and the television series Silo.</p><p><strong>BIO</strong><br />Fryderyk Kwiatkowski is an Assistant at AGH University of Krakow. He earned a joint doctoral degree from the University of Groningen and the Jagiellonian University in 2023 with a thesis entitled <i>Gnosticism in Hollywood: From European Academia to American Popular Culture</i>. His research interests encompass the cultural reception of late antique esoteric traditions, their intersections with discourses on utopias and dystopias, and the (not-so-obvious) intertwinement of popular media, philosophy, and religion. He is currently developing a project on the role of imagination in contemporary technoculture, with a focus on the feedback loops between transhumanism, science fiction, and esotericism. He has published his research in venues such as Gnosis: Journal of Gnostic Studies, CLCWeb: Comparative Literature and Culture, Journal of Religion and Film.</p><p><strong>NOTES</strong><br />Fryderyk Kwiatkowski<br /><a href="https://agh.academia.edu/FryderykKwiatkowski">Academia.edu</a><br /><a href="https://pure.rug.nl/ws/portalfiles/portal/837416004/Complete_thesis.pdf"><i>Gnosticism in Hollywood: From European Academia to American Popular Culture</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.academia.edu/44192807/Eric_Voegelin_and_Gnostic_Hollywood_Cinematic_Portrayals_of_the_Immanentization_of_the_Eschaton_in_Dark_City_1998_and_Pleasantville_1998_">"Eric Voegelin and Gnostic Hollywood"</a><br /><a href="https://www.academia.edu/32197237/How_To_Attain_Liberation_From_a_False_World_The_Gnostic_Myth_of_Sophia_in_Dark_City_1998_">"How to Attain Liberation from a False World? The Gnostic Myth of Sophia in Dark City."</a></p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>For episode 14 of Pop Apocalypse, we welcome the linguist and philosopher Wouter Kusters. Kusters is the author of Pure Madness (2004) and A Philosophy of Madness (2014), both of which won the Dutch Socrates Award for best philosophy book of the year. We discuss <a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/madness-mysticism-and-philosophy-a-talk-with-wouter-kusters?t=5m26s"><strong>(5:26)</strong></a> how the experience of psychotic thinking challenges and illuminates our notions of language, philosophy, and mysticism. Along the way, we touch on the similarities between mystical and mad experiences, apophatic and psychotic uses of language, the phenomenology of time, and the impact of Kusters’ books on mental health specialists.</p><p><a href="https://kusterstekst.nl/?page_id=383">Wouter Kusters, PhD</a>, is a linguist and philosopher based in the Netherlands. Two of his books received the Dutch Socrates Award for the best and most inspiring philosophy book of the year: Pure Madness (2004) and <a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262044288/a-philosophy-of-madness/">A Philosophy of Madness</a> (2014). The English version of this latter work was released in 2020 by MIT Press. In 2022, an Arabic version was released, and a Chinese translation is expected this year. Kusters writes on a range of themes in various outlets that explore perennial questions of meaning, madness, mysticism, and language.</p><p><strong>LINKS</strong><br /><a href="https://kusterstekst.nl/?page_id=383">Wouter Kusters' homepage</a><br /><a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262044288/a-philosophy-of-madness/"><i>A Philosophy of Madness</i></a></p>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 2 Jul 2025 19:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>For Episode 13 of <i>Pop Apocalypse</i>, we welcome Shannon Taggart, an American photographer, writer, researcher, and curator known for exploring how photography can navigate boundaries between the seen and unseen. Her book, <i>Séance</i> (Fulger Press, 2019), offers hundreds of photographs documenting contemporary Spiritualism across the U.S. and Britain. We discuss (<a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/photographing-the-invisible-a-talk-with-shannon-taggart?t=3m26s">3:26</a>) what sparked Shannon’s interests in Spiritualism, the intersecting histories of photography and Spiritualism, ectoplasm, what inspires people to become mediums, and the techniques she developed for photographing the invisible.</p><p><strong>Shannon Taggart</strong><br /><a href="https://www.shannontaggart.com/">Website</a><br /><a href="https://atelier-editions.com/products/seance"><i>Seánce</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.shannontaggart.com/events">Lily Dale Symposium, 2025</a></p><p><strong>CSWR Events</strong><br />May 1, 6-8pm EDT: <a href="https://cswr.hds.harvard.edu/news/upcoming-events?trumbaEmbed=view%3Devent%26eventid%3D182191152">Peripheries Launch Event, Volume 7</a><br />May 15-17: <a href="https://cswr.hds.harvard.edu/research-programming/thinking-plants-fungi/conference-may-2025">Thinking with Plants and Fungi Conference</a></p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>For our 12th episode, we welcome the philosopher, artist, and musician <strong>Haela Ravenna Hunt-Hendrix</strong>. Haela is best known as the songwriter and singer behind the black metal band, Liturgy, which has released 1 EP and 6 full-length albums. We discuss Haela’s early relationships to Christianity and metal music, the growth of her philosophical interests, and her recent conversion to Orthodox Christianity. In the second part of our chat <a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/black-metal-and-orthodox-christianity-a-talk-with-haela-ravenna-hunt-hendrix-of-liturgy?t=42m33s">(<strong>42:33</strong>)</a>, we explore her philosophical system of Transcendental Qabalah and how it informs records such as <i>H.A.Q.Q.</i>, <i>Origin of the Alimonies</i>, and <i>93696</i>.</p><p><strong>LINKS</strong><br /><strong>Haela Ravenna Hunt-Hendrix</strong><br /><a href="https://litvrgy.substack.com/"><strong>Substack</strong></a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC43VFN8zuWfjR7iIUTj2ADA"><strong>YouTube Channel</strong></a><br /><a href="https://static1.squarespace.com/static/57044839b09f95d1f342ce25/t/575201a58a65e24600087b3b/1464992166180/Transcendental+Black+Metal+%28BMTS+vol.+1+-+Hideous+Gnosis%29+.pdf"><strong>"Transcendental Black Metal essay"</strong></a></p><p><strong>Liturgy records</strong><br /><a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/4a2XdKkEDVvfniwTu8pSMb?si=lNnqxQfLRRuDT1Zy6Gy_uQ"><i>H.A.Q.Q.</i></a><br /><a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/5Q84MVz6dS62QsAzBiFTwY?si=Acne2Xc5T7eIkXmYCLxO0g"><i>Origin of the Alimonies</i></a><br /><a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/28gL6vjKVFaO7UG0ImRzkY?si=fivNhDjXRAqZTuED7KU4Sg"><i>93696</i></a></p><p><strong>References</strong><br /><a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/1585421618?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_1"><i>Meditations on the Tarot: A Journey Into Christian Hermeticism</i></a><br /><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/anti-oedipus-capitalism-and-schizophrenia-felix-guattari/11700934?ean=9780143105824&next=t&next=t">Deleuze and Guattari, <i>Anti-Oedipus</i></a><br /><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-sophiology-of-death-essays-on-eschatology-personal-political-universal-sergius-bulgakov/17375455?ean=9781532699665&next=t&next=t">Sergius Bulgakov, <i>The Sophiology of Death</i></a></p>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 27 Feb 2025 17:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>For Episode 11 of Pop Apocalypse, we welcome <a href="https://www.jenniferhiggie.com/about"><strong>Jennifer Higgie</strong></a>. Jennifer is the author of several books, including <i>Bedlam</i>, a novel about the artist Richard Dadd; <i>The Mirror and the Palette</i>, a history of women’s self-portraits; and <i>The Other Side: A Story of Women in Art and the Spirit World</i>, a beautiful and personal study of the relationship between spiritual experience and art in the lives of modern women. In this career-spanning chat, Jennifer and I discuss her early career in painting, what inspired her to write <i>Bedlam</i>, and how the art world changed during her time at Frieze magazine. Then we dive into Jennifer’s latest book, <i>The Other Side: A Story of Women in Art and the Spirit World</i>. We discuss the spiritual and artistic lives of women like Georgiana Houghton <a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/women-art-and-the-spirit-world-a-talk-with-jennifer-higgie-author-of-the-other-side?t=23m5s">(20:35)</a>, Hilma af Klint <a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/women-art-and-the-spirit-world-a-talk-with-jennifer-higgie-author-of-the-other-side?t=34m6s">(34:06)</a>, Ithell Colquhoun <a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/women-art-and-the-spirit-world-a-talk-with-jennifer-higgie-author-of-the-other-side?t=46m9s">(46:09)</a>, and Hildegard of Bingen <a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/women-art-and-the-spirit-world-a-talk-with-jennifer-higgie-author-of-the-other-side?t=52m53s">(52:53)</a>. Along the way, we touch on topics like fairies, Spiritualism, gardening, Carl Jung, spiritual ecology, Theosophy, ascended masters, angels, and much else.</p><p><strong>LINKS</strong><br />Jennifer Higgie<br /><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-other-side-a-story-of-women-in-art-and-the-spirit-world-jennifer-higgie/20166798?ean=9781639368754%5D"><i>The Other Side: Women, Art, and the Spirit World</i></a><br /><a href="https://a.co/d/cQu5X2I%5C"><i>The Mirror and the Palette: Revolution, Rebellion, Resistance: 500 Years of Women's Self-Portraits</i></a><br /><a href="https://a.co/d/gveMVcF%5D%5D(https://a.co/d/gveMVcF%5D"><i>Bedlam</i></a></p><p>Others<br />Georgiana Houghton's <a href="https://a.co/d/j4XLkaC%5C"><i>Evenings at Home in Spiritual Seánce</i></a><br />Amy Hale's <a href="https://a.co/d/eCiLa3R%5D"><i>Ithell Colquhoun: Genius of the Fern Loved Gully</i></a><br />Julia Voss's <a href="https://a.co/d/eCiLa3R%5D"><i>Hilma af Klint: A Biography</i></a></p>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Episode 11 of Pop Apocalypse, we welcome <a href="https://www.jenniferhiggie.com/about"><strong>Jennifer Higgie</strong></a>. Jennifer is the author of several books, including <i>Bedlam</i>, a novel about the artist Richard Dadd; <i>The Mirror and the Palette</i>, a history of women’s self-portraits; and <i>The Other Side: A Story of Women in Art and the Spirit World</i>, a beautiful and personal study of the relationship between spiritual experience and art in the lives of modern women. In this career-spanning chat, Jennifer and I discuss her early career in painting, what inspired her to write <i>Bedlam</i>, and how the art world changed during her time at Frieze magazine. Then we dive into Jennifer’s latest book, <i>The Other Side: A Story of Women in Art and the Spirit World</i>. We discuss the spiritual and artistic lives of women like Georgiana Houghton <a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/women-art-and-the-spirit-world-a-talk-with-jennifer-higgie-author-of-the-other-side?t=23m5s">(20:35)</a>, Hilma af Klint <a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/women-art-and-the-spirit-world-a-talk-with-jennifer-higgie-author-of-the-other-side?t=34m6s">(34:06)</a>, Ithell Colquhoun <a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/women-art-and-the-spirit-world-a-talk-with-jennifer-higgie-author-of-the-other-side?t=46m9s">(46:09)</a>, and Hildegard of Bingen <a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/women-art-and-the-spirit-world-a-talk-with-jennifer-higgie-author-of-the-other-side?t=52m53s">(52:53)</a>. Along the way, we touch on topics like fairies, Spiritualism, gardening, Carl Jung, spiritual ecology, Theosophy, ascended masters, angels, and much else.</p><p><strong>LINKS</strong><br />Jennifer Higgie<br /><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-other-side-a-story-of-women-in-art-and-the-spirit-world-jennifer-higgie/20166798?ean=9781639368754%5D"><i>The Other Side: Women, Art, and the Spirit World</i></a><br /><a href="https://a.co/d/cQu5X2I%5C"><i>The Mirror and the Palette: Revolution, Rebellion, Resistance: 500 Years of Women's Self-Portraits</i></a><br /><a href="https://a.co/d/gveMVcF%5D%5D(https://a.co/d/gveMVcF%5D"><i>Bedlam</i></a></p><p>Others<br />Georgiana Houghton's <a href="https://a.co/d/j4XLkaC%5C"><i>Evenings at Home in Spiritual Seánce</i></a><br />Amy Hale's <a href="https://a.co/d/eCiLa3R%5D"><i>Ithell Colquhoun: Genius of the Fern Loved Gully</i></a><br />Julia Voss's <a href="https://a.co/d/eCiLa3R%5D"><i>Hilma af Klint: A Biography</i></a></p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>For episode 10 of Pop Apocalypse, we welcome the musician, composer, and producer <strong>Trey Spruance</strong>. We discuss <a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/music-and-the-esoteric-imagination-a-talk-with-trey-spruance-of-mr-bungle-and-secret-chiefs-3?t=3m42s">(3:42)</a>Trey’s early musical and occult explorations and how reading the philosopher Henry Corbin changed the course of his life. Trey then takes us through the esoteric dimensions of Secret Chiefs 3 <a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/music-and-the-esoteric-imagination-a-talk-with-trey-spruance-of-mr-bungle-and-secret-chiefs-3?t=22m59s">(22:59)</a> and how albums like <strong>Book M</strong> and <strong>Book of Horizons</strong> are filled with correspondences to Kabbalah, astrology, Hermetic magic, and Pythagorean musicology. Along the way, we touch on Trey’s work with John Zorn and Kronos Quartet, his conversion to Eastern Orthodox Christianity, and the afterlives of Saint Cyprian the Mage.</p><p><strong>LINKS</strong><br />Web of Mimicry <a href="https://www.webofmimicry.com/">website</a><br /><a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/09Sj16DlcwjnXgnVT3FG5S?si=9m_ew3gJSX-bw69A-MGbiQ">Book M</a><br /><a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/5h05KxeKyEiVQFrxI5rIUj?si=xzeoLyodQx-E-vi0_1zThQ">Book of Horizons</a><br /><a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/4VR7WJsncPvyIKcto9hIqy?si=P0nuo6qqTYu042mATf15bw">Book of Souls: Folio A</a><br /><a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/5Ocm22eORqUqOSiQ7RjvTS?si=2mKQ_ZLdRTKG3MPwhuGHcw">The Book Beri'ah, Vol. 10: Malkhut</a><br /><a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/7dJrasaKjN7OHDeEzCDdDi?si=_4_PuMMsQJeph3Y5J9hi0Q">Xaphan: Book of Angels, Vol. 9</a><br /><a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/4AjPntKvVcZGZosqtpuPSw?si=8DDj4U89T4ixZ6Uk0Sj-Cg">Perichoresis</a><br />Link to the G.I. Gurdjieff Conference at Harvard Divinity School, Dec 4-5th</p>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For episode 10 of Pop Apocalypse, we welcome the musician, composer, and producer <strong>Trey Spruance</strong>. We discuss <a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/music-and-the-esoteric-imagination-a-talk-with-trey-spruance-of-mr-bungle-and-secret-chiefs-3?t=3m42s">(3:42)</a>Trey’s early musical and occult explorations and how reading the philosopher Henry Corbin changed the course of his life. Trey then takes us through the esoteric dimensions of Secret Chiefs 3 <a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/music-and-the-esoteric-imagination-a-talk-with-trey-spruance-of-mr-bungle-and-secret-chiefs-3?t=22m59s">(22:59)</a> and how albums like <strong>Book M</strong> and <strong>Book of Horizons</strong> are filled with correspondences to Kabbalah, astrology, Hermetic magic, and Pythagorean musicology. Along the way, we touch on Trey’s work with John Zorn and Kronos Quartet, his conversion to Eastern Orthodox Christianity, and the afterlives of Saint Cyprian the Mage.</p><p><strong>LINKS</strong><br />Web of Mimicry <a href="https://www.webofmimicry.com/">website</a><br /><a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/09Sj16DlcwjnXgnVT3FG5S?si=9m_ew3gJSX-bw69A-MGbiQ">Book M</a><br /><a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/5h05KxeKyEiVQFrxI5rIUj?si=xzeoLyodQx-E-vi0_1zThQ">Book of Horizons</a><br /><a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/4VR7WJsncPvyIKcto9hIqy?si=P0nuo6qqTYu042mATf15bw">Book of Souls: Folio A</a><br /><a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/5Ocm22eORqUqOSiQ7RjvTS?si=2mKQ_ZLdRTKG3MPwhuGHcw">The Book Beri'ah, Vol. 10: Malkhut</a><br /><a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/7dJrasaKjN7OHDeEzCDdDi?si=_4_PuMMsQJeph3Y5J9hi0Q">Xaphan: Book of Angels, Vol. 9</a><br /><a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/4AjPntKvVcZGZosqtpuPSw?si=8DDj4U89T4ixZ6Uk0Sj-Cg">Perichoresis</a><br />Link to the G.I. Gurdjieff Conference at Harvard Divinity School, Dec 4-5th</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>For episode nine, we welcome to the show <strong>Diana Pasulka</strong>, Professor of Religious Studies at UNC – Wilmington. Her books <i>American Cosmic: UFOs, Religion, Technology</i> and <i>Encounters: Experiences with Nonhuman Intelligences</i> are both classics in the field of Religion and Technology studies. We discuss how Pasulka’s early work on Catholic purgatory led her to the study of UFOs, the spiritual practices of experiencers, and the role of government (dis)information and popular culture in the rise of UFO religion. On the way, we touch on A.I., revelations, St. Teresa of Avila, sleep paralysis, and the perils and possibilities of new technologies.</p><p><strong>LINKS</strong><br />Diana Pasulka's <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/heaven-can-wait-purgatory-in-catholic-devotional-and-popular-culture-diana-walsh-pasulka/9542798?ean=9780195382020"><i>Heaven Can Wait: Purgatory in Catholic Devotional and Popular Culture</i></a><br /><a href="https://global.oup.com/academic/product/american-cosmic-9780190692889?cc=us&lang=en&"><i>American Cosmic: UFOs, Religion, Technology</i></a><br /><a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250879578/encounters"><i>Encounters: Experiences with Nonhuman Intelligences</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.academia.edu/28696034/From_Purgatory_to_the_UFO_Phenomenon_The_Catholic_Supernatural_Goes_Galactic">"From Purgatory to the UFO Phenomenon: The Catholic Supernatural Goes Galactic"</a><br />Keith Cantu's <a href="https://cswr.hds.harvard.edu/research-programming/transcendence-transformation/om-gnosis-videocast">Om-gnosis video podcast</a></p>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For episode nine, we welcome to the show <strong>Diana Pasulka</strong>, Professor of Religious Studies at UNC – Wilmington. Her books <i>American Cosmic: UFOs, Religion, Technology</i> and <i>Encounters: Experiences with Nonhuman Intelligences</i> are both classics in the field of Religion and Technology studies. We discuss how Pasulka’s early work on Catholic purgatory led her to the study of UFOs, the spiritual practices of experiencers, and the role of government (dis)information and popular culture in the rise of UFO religion. On the way, we touch on A.I., revelations, St. Teresa of Avila, sleep paralysis, and the perils and possibilities of new technologies.</p><p><strong>LINKS</strong><br />Diana Pasulka's <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/heaven-can-wait-purgatory-in-catholic-devotional-and-popular-culture-diana-walsh-pasulka/9542798?ean=9780195382020"><i>Heaven Can Wait: Purgatory in Catholic Devotional and Popular Culture</i></a><br /><a href="https://global.oup.com/academic/product/american-cosmic-9780190692889?cc=us&lang=en&"><i>American Cosmic: UFOs, Religion, Technology</i></a><br /><a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250879578/encounters"><i>Encounters: Experiences with Nonhuman Intelligences</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.academia.edu/28696034/From_Purgatory_to_the_UFO_Phenomenon_The_Catholic_Supernatural_Goes_Galactic">"From Purgatory to the UFO Phenomenon: The Catholic Supernatural Goes Galactic"</a><br />Keith Cantu's <a href="https://cswr.hds.harvard.edu/research-programming/transcendence-transformation/om-gnosis-videocast">Om-gnosis video podcast</a></p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>For our eighth episode, we welcome the author <strong>Eric Wargo</strong> to the show. Eric is perhaps the world’s foremost expert on precognition. His most recent book, <i>From Nowhere,</i> examines precognition in its relationship to creativity in the lives of major authors and artists. We discuss the nature of time, dreamwork, memories from the future, and the four-dimensional brain. Along the way, we discuss figures like Virginia Woolf, Philip K. Dick, Andrei Tarkovsky, Sigmund Freud, and the sculptor, Michael Richards.</p><p><strong>NOTES</strong></p><p>Eric Wargo's work:</p><ul><li>Blog <a href="https://www.thenightshirt.com/">"The Nightshirt"</a></li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/from-nowhere-artists-writers-and-the-precognitive-imagination-eric-wargo/21493187?ean=9781949501339"><i>From Nowhere: Artists, Writers, and the Precognitive Imagination</i></a></li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/time-loops-precognition-retrocausation-and-the-unconscious-eric-wargo/7740460?ean=9781938398926"><i>Time Loops</i></a></li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/precognitive-dreamwork-and-the-long-self-interpreting-messages-from-your-future-eric-wargo/14949372?ean=9781644112694"><i>Precognitive  Dreamwork and the Long Self: Interpreting Messages from Your Future</i></a></li></ul><p>An exhibit of <a href="https://www.culturetype.com/2021/09/11/retrospective-of-michael-richards-showcases-rigor-promise-of-artist-who-died-in-sept-11-terrorist-attack-on-world-trade-center">Michael Richards' Sculpture</a></p>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For our eighth episode, we welcome the author <strong>Eric Wargo</strong> to the show. Eric is perhaps the world’s foremost expert on precognition. His most recent book, <i>From Nowhere,</i> examines precognition in its relationship to creativity in the lives of major authors and artists. We discuss the nature of time, dreamwork, memories from the future, and the four-dimensional brain. Along the way, we discuss figures like Virginia Woolf, Philip K. Dick, Andrei Tarkovsky, Sigmund Freud, and the sculptor, Michael Richards.</p><p><strong>NOTES</strong></p><p>Eric Wargo's work:</p><ul><li>Blog <a href="https://www.thenightshirt.com/">"The Nightshirt"</a></li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/from-nowhere-artists-writers-and-the-precognitive-imagination-eric-wargo/21493187?ean=9781949501339"><i>From Nowhere: Artists, Writers, and the Precognitive Imagination</i></a></li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/time-loops-precognition-retrocausation-and-the-unconscious-eric-wargo/7740460?ean=9781938398926"><i>Time Loops</i></a></li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/precognitive-dreamwork-and-the-long-self-interpreting-messages-from-your-future-eric-wargo/14949372?ean=9781644112694"><i>Precognitive  Dreamwork and the Long Self: Interpreting Messages from Your Future</i></a></li></ul><p>An exhibit of <a href="https://www.culturetype.com/2021/09/11/retrospective-of-michael-richards-showcases-rigor-promise-of-artist-who-died-in-sept-11-terrorist-attack-on-world-trade-center">Michael Richards' Sculpture</a></p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>For episode 7, we welcome the writer and scholar <a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/psychedelics-california-and-the-cultures-of-consciousness-a-talk-with-erik-davis?t=4m6s">Erik Davis</a> (4:06) to reflect on the journey that led to his new book, <i>BLOTTER: The Untold Story of an Acid Medium</i>. We discuss Erik’s writing for the Village Voice in the early 90s, his breakthrough monograph <i>Techgnosis</i>, and how his home state of California informs his oeuvre. In the second half of the interview, we discuss the academic study of “the weird,” perils and possibilities for the psychedelic renaissance, and how <i>BLOTTER</i> is a love letter to LSD.</p><p><strong>LINKS</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://cswr.hds.harvard.edu/news/upcoming-events?trumbaEmbed=view%3Devent%26eventid%3D173055959"><i>Blotter </i>book launch event 4/30</a></li><li>Erik's <a href="https://techgnosis.com/">website</a></li><li><a href="https://techgnosis.com/category/burning-shore/"><strong>Burning Shore</strong></a></li><li><a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262048507/blotter/"><i>Blotter: The Untold Story of an Acid Medium</i></a></li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/techgnosis-myth-magic-and-mysticism-in-the-age-of-information-erik-davis/580459?ean=9781583949306"><i>Techgnosis: Myth, Magic, and  Mysticism in the Age of Information</i></a></li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/high-weirdness-drugs-esoterica-and-visionary-experience-in-the-seventies-erik-davis/8237586?ean=9781907222870"><i>High Weirdness: Drugs, Esoterica, and Visionary Experience in the Seventies</i></a></li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/led-zeppelin-s-led-zeppelin-iv-erik-davis/10796579?ean=9780826416582"><i>Led Zeppelin IV 33/13</i></a></li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/nomad-codes-adventures-in-modern-esoterica-erik-davis/10146457?ean=9781891241543"><i>Nomad Codes: Adventures in Modern Esoterica</i></a></li><li><a href="https://visionarystate.com/"><i>Visionary State</i></a></li></ul><p> </p><p> </p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 30 Apr 2024 13:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>mdillon@hds.harvard.edu (Erik Davis, Matthew J. Dillon, Secret Chiefs 3)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For episode 7, we welcome the writer and scholar <a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/psychedelics-california-and-the-cultures-of-consciousness-a-talk-with-erik-davis?t=4m6s">Erik Davis</a> (4:06) to reflect on the journey that led to his new book, <i>BLOTTER: The Untold Story of an Acid Medium</i>. We discuss Erik’s writing for the Village Voice in the early 90s, his breakthrough monograph <i>Techgnosis</i>, and how his home state of California informs his oeuvre. In the second half of the interview, we discuss the academic study of “the weird,” perils and possibilities for the psychedelic renaissance, and how <i>BLOTTER</i> is a love letter to LSD.</p><p><strong>LINKS</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://cswr.hds.harvard.edu/news/upcoming-events?trumbaEmbed=view%3Devent%26eventid%3D173055959"><i>Blotter </i>book launch event 4/30</a></li><li>Erik's <a href="https://techgnosis.com/">website</a></li><li><a href="https://techgnosis.com/category/burning-shore/"><strong>Burning Shore</strong></a></li><li><a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262048507/blotter/"><i>Blotter: The Untold Story of an Acid Medium</i></a></li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/techgnosis-myth-magic-and-mysticism-in-the-age-of-information-erik-davis/580459?ean=9781583949306"><i>Techgnosis: Myth, Magic, and  Mysticism in the Age of Information</i></a></li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/high-weirdness-drugs-esoterica-and-visionary-experience-in-the-seventies-erik-davis/8237586?ean=9781907222870"><i>High Weirdness: Drugs, Esoterica, and Visionary Experience in the Seventies</i></a></li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/led-zeppelin-s-led-zeppelin-iv-erik-davis/10796579?ean=9780826416582"><i>Led Zeppelin IV 33/13</i></a></li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/nomad-codes-adventures-in-modern-esoterica-erik-davis/10146457?ean=9781891241543"><i>Nomad Codes: Adventures in Modern Esoterica</i></a></li><li><a href="https://visionarystate.com/"><i>Visionary State</i></a></li></ul><p> </p><p> </p>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2024 19:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>For episode five of the pod, we are honored to welcome <strong>Jeffrey J. Kripal</strong>, J. Newton Rayzor Chair of Philosophy and Religious Thought at Rice University. In this career-spanning chat <a href="https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/ecstatic-knowledge-and-the-study-of-religion-featuring-jeffrey-kripal?t=10m36s">10:36</a> we discuss Kripal’s Catholic upbringing, psychoanalysis, and the ecstatic experience in Calcutta that changed the direction of his career. From there, we touch on Jeff’s role at Esalen, historical mystics and paranormal powers, telepathic insects, and how the study of religion and popular culture come together in film, comedy, and music.</p><h4>NOTES</h4><p>Peripheries No. 6 <a href="https://cswr.hds.harvard.edu/news/2023/12/05/evening-poetry-music-art-celebrating-peripheries-no-6?mc_cid=c8e8fb5494&mc_eid=51a5729bf9">launch event</a><br />Jeffrey J. Kripal's <a href="https://kripal.rice.edu/">personal website</a><br />Jeffrey Kripal, <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/mutants-and-mystics-science-fiction-superhero-comics-and-the-paranormal-jeffrey-j-kripal/19628619?ean=9780226271484"><i>Mutants and Mystics</i></a><br />Kripal, <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-superhumanities-historical-precedents-moral-objections-new-realities-jeffrey-j-kripal/17484445?ean=9780226820248"><i>The Superhumanities</i></a><br />Kripal, <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/authors-of-the-impossible-the-paranormal-and-the-sacred-jeffrey-j-kripal/6803238?ean=9780226453873"><i>Authors of the Impossible</i></a><br />Kripal, <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/kali-s-child-the-mystical-and-the-erotic-in-the-life-and-teachings-of-ramakrishna-jeffrey-j-kripal/6803230?ean=9780226453774"><i>Kali's Child</i></a><br />Kripal, <a href="https://ucp-press-web10.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/H/bo216049049.html"><i>How to Think Impossibly</i></a><br /><a href="https://impossiblearchives.rice.edu/"><strong>The Archives of the Impossible</strong></a><br />Hellier, <a href="https://www.planetweird.tv/hellier-season-1">season 1</a><br />Hellier, <a href="https://www.planetweird.tv/hellier-season-2">season 2</a><br />Esalen's <a href="https://www.esalen.org/ctr-main">Center for Theory and Research</a></p>
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      <author>mdillon@hds.harvard.edu (Jeffrey Kripal, Secret Chiefs 3, Matthew J. Dillon)</author>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>For episode four, we welcome the acclaimed novelist and scholar Victoria Nelson. Nelson is the academic doyen of what is today labeled Occulture Studies. Her first monograph on the supernatural in popular culture, <i>The Secret Life of Puppets</i> (2001), practically willed the field into existence. The follow-up book, <i>Gothicka</i> (2012), theorized shifts in popular culture that we are living through today. In this interview we discuss Victoria’s early life, her first forays into fiction, and explore expressions of what Nelson terms the “repressed supernatural” in androids, vampires, and hyperreal religions.</p><p>Victoria Nelson is a writer of fiction, criticism, and memoir. Her books include <i>The Secret Life of Puppets</i>, a study of the supernatural grotesque in Western culture that won the Modern Language Association’s Scaglione Prize for Comparative Literary Studies in 2002, and <i>Gothicka</i>, which won the Association of American Publishers PROSE (Professional and Scholarly Excellence)Award in Literature in 2012. A novel, <i>Neighbor George</i>, came out in 2021. She was awarded a Guggenheim Fellowship in 2016 and teaches in Goddard College’s MFA creative writing program. </p><p>####<strong>Show Notes</strong><br />Victoria Nelson, <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-secret-life-of-puppets-victoria-nelson/10858474?ean=9780674012448"><i>The Secret Life of Puppets</i></a><br />V. Nelson, <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/gothicka-vampire-heroes-human-gods-and-the-new-supernatural-victoria-nelson/6718530?ean=9780674725928"><i>Gothicka</i></a><br />V. Nelson, <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/neighbor-george-victoria-nelson/16279869?ean=9781913689308"><i>Neighbor George</i></a><br />Bruno Schulz, <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-street-of-crocodiles-and-other-stories-bruno-schulz/11699271?ean=9780143105145"><i>The Street of Crocodiles and Other Stories</i></a><br />Victoria Nelson on the <a href="https://www.weirdstudies.com/135"><strong>Weird Studies Podcast</strong></a><br />Stephenie Meyer, <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-twilight-saga-complete-collection-stephenie-meyer/18078980?ean=9780759553927"><i>The Twilight Saga</i></a><br />Harold Bloom, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/American-Religion-Emergence-Post-Christian-Nation/dp/0671867377/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2WEH8KO4PWHUC&keywords=harold+bloom+the+american+religion&qid=1698689717&sprefix=harold+blo%2Caps%2C156&sr=8-1"><i>The American Religion</i></a><br />The website of <a href="https://paulselig.com/"><strong>Paul Selig</strong></a></p>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2023 18:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For episode four, we welcome the acclaimed novelist and scholar Victoria Nelson. Nelson is the academic doyen of what is today labeled Occulture Studies. Her first monograph on the supernatural in popular culture, <i>The Secret Life of Puppets</i> (2001), practically willed the field into existence. The follow-up book, <i>Gothicka</i> (2012), theorized shifts in popular culture that we are living through today. In this interview we discuss Victoria’s early life, her first forays into fiction, and explore expressions of what Nelson terms the “repressed supernatural” in androids, vampires, and hyperreal religions.</p><p>Victoria Nelson is a writer of fiction, criticism, and memoir. Her books include <i>The Secret Life of Puppets</i>, a study of the supernatural grotesque in Western culture that won the Modern Language Association’s Scaglione Prize for Comparative Literary Studies in 2002, and <i>Gothicka</i>, which won the Association of American Publishers PROSE (Professional and Scholarly Excellence)Award in Literature in 2012. A novel, <i>Neighbor George</i>, came out in 2021. She was awarded a Guggenheim Fellowship in 2016 and teaches in Goddard College’s MFA creative writing program. </p><p>####<strong>Show Notes</strong><br />Victoria Nelson, <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-secret-life-of-puppets-victoria-nelson/10858474?ean=9780674012448"><i>The Secret Life of Puppets</i></a><br />V. Nelson, <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/gothicka-vampire-heroes-human-gods-and-the-new-supernatural-victoria-nelson/6718530?ean=9780674725928"><i>Gothicka</i></a><br />V. Nelson, <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/neighbor-george-victoria-nelson/16279869?ean=9781913689308"><i>Neighbor George</i></a><br />Bruno Schulz, <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-street-of-crocodiles-and-other-stories-bruno-schulz/11699271?ean=9780143105145"><i>The Street of Crocodiles and Other Stories</i></a><br />Victoria Nelson on the <a href="https://www.weirdstudies.com/135"><strong>Weird Studies Podcast</strong></a><br />Stephenie Meyer, <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-twilight-saga-complete-collection-stephenie-meyer/18078980?ean=9780759553927"><i>The Twilight Saga</i></a><br />Harold Bloom, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/American-Religion-Emergence-Post-Christian-Nation/dp/0671867377/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2WEH8KO4PWHUC&keywords=harold+bloom+the+american+religion&qid=1698689717&sprefix=harold+blo%2Caps%2C156&sr=8-1"><i>The American Religion</i></a><br />The website of <a href="https://paulselig.com/"><strong>Paul Selig</strong></a></p>
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      <itunes:summary>For episode four, we welcome the acclaimed novelist and scholar Victoria Nelson. Nelson is the academic doyen of what is today labeled Occulture Studies. Her first monograph on the supernatural in popular culture, The Secret Life of Puppets (2001), practically willed the field into existence. The follow-up book, Gothicka (2012), theorized shifts in popular culture that we are living through today. In this interview we discuss Victoria’s early life, her first forays into fiction, and explore expressions of what Nelson terms the “repressed supernatural” in androids, vampires, and hyperreal religions.

Victoria Nelson is a writer of fiction, criticism, and memoir. Her books include The Secret Life of Puppets, a study of the supernatural grotesque in Western culture that won the Modern Language Association’s Scaglione Prize for Comparative Literary Studies in 2002, and Gothicka, which won the Association of American Publishers PROSE (Professional and Scholarly Excellence)Award in Literature in 2012. A novel, Neighbor George, came out in 2021. She was awarded a Guggenheim Fellowship in 2016 and teaches in Goddard College’s MFA creative writing program. </itunes:summary>
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Victoria Nelson is a writer of fiction, criticism, and memoir. Her books include The Secret Life of Puppets, a study of the supernatural grotesque in Western culture that won the Modern Language Association’s Scaglione Prize for Comparative Literary Studies in 2002, and Gothicka, which won the Association of American Publishers PROSE (Professional and Scholarly Excellence)Award in Literature in 2012. A novel, Neighbor George, came out in 2021. She was awarded a Guggenheim Fellowship in 2016 and teaches in Goddard College’s MFA creative writing program. </itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>For our third episode, we welcome the #1 New York Times best-selling author <a href="https://www.unknowncountry.com/">Whitley Strieber</a>. Whitley discusses his boyhood as a Roman Catholic, the erotic dimensions of alien contact, his lifelong meditative practice, evolving views of the afterlife, and the recent U.S. Congressional testimony concerning Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAPs).</p><p>Whitley Strieber is the author of <a href="https://www.unknowncountry.com/book/communion-2/?grid%5C_referrer=108978%5C">Communion</a>, one of the most iconic books in the literature of the unexplained and the bestselling nonfiction book on UFO-related subjects in history. His most recent book about alien contact is <a href="https://www.unknowncountry.com/book/them/?grid%5C_referrer=108978">Them</a>, published in 2023. In 2021, he published <a href="https://www.unknowncountry.com/book/jesus-a-new-vision/?grid%5C_referrer=108978">Jesus: A New Vision</a>, and in 2022, <a href="https://www.unknowncountry.com/book/a-new-world/?grid%5C_referrer=108978">A New World</a>. Both <i>Them</i> and <i>A New World</i> are follow-ons to Communion that extend his research beyond personal issues of contact and into broader areas.<br />He is the author of over 40 other books, including the Wolfen, the Hunger and Superstorm, all, like Communion, made into films.</p><p>Pop Apocalypse now has email! Please reach out to us at <a href="mailto:popapocalypse@hds.harvard.edu">popapocalypse@hds.harvard.edu</a> with any queries.</p><p>References from the episode:<br /><a href="https://www.unknowncountry.com/book/the-afterlife-revolution/?grid_referrer=108978">The Afterlife Revolution</a><br /><a href="https://www.unknowncountry.com/book/the-super-natural/?grid_referrer=108978">The Super Natural</a>, by Jeffrey Kripal and Whitley Strieber.<br /><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/american-cosmic-ufos-religion-technology-d-w-pasulka/7352336?ean=9780190692889">American Cosmic</a> by D.W. Pasulka<br /><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/passport-to-magonia-from-folklore-to-flying-saucers-jacques-vallee/12660103?ean=9780987422484">Passport to Magonia</a> by Jacques Vallee<br /><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/intimate-alien-the-hidden-story-of-the-ufo-david-halperin/14849528?ean=9781094083797">Intimate Alien</a>  by David Halperin<br /><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-myth-and-mystery-of-ufos-thomas-e-bullard/10162703?ean=9780700617296">The Myth and Mystery of UFOs</a> by Thomas Bullard</p>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2023 20:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>mdillon@hds.harvard.edu (whitley strieber, Matthew J. Dillon, Secret Chiefs 3)</author>
      <link>https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/aliens-eros-and-life-after-death-an-interview-with-whitley-strieber-sFy2Z1bj</link>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For our third episode, we welcome the #1 New York Times best-selling author <a href="https://www.unknowncountry.com/">Whitley Strieber</a>. Whitley discusses his boyhood as a Roman Catholic, the erotic dimensions of alien contact, his lifelong meditative practice, evolving views of the afterlife, and the recent U.S. Congressional testimony concerning Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAPs).</p><p>Whitley Strieber is the author of <a href="https://www.unknowncountry.com/book/communion-2/?grid%5C_referrer=108978%5C">Communion</a>, one of the most iconic books in the literature of the unexplained and the bestselling nonfiction book on UFO-related subjects in history. His most recent book about alien contact is <a href="https://www.unknowncountry.com/book/them/?grid%5C_referrer=108978">Them</a>, published in 2023. In 2021, he published <a href="https://www.unknowncountry.com/book/jesus-a-new-vision/?grid%5C_referrer=108978">Jesus: A New Vision</a>, and in 2022, <a href="https://www.unknowncountry.com/book/a-new-world/?grid%5C_referrer=108978">A New World</a>. Both <i>Them</i> and <i>A New World</i> are follow-ons to Communion that extend his research beyond personal issues of contact and into broader areas.<br />He is the author of over 40 other books, including the Wolfen, the Hunger and Superstorm, all, like Communion, made into films.</p><p>Pop Apocalypse now has email! Please reach out to us at <a href="mailto:popapocalypse@hds.harvard.edu">popapocalypse@hds.harvard.edu</a> with any queries.</p><p>References from the episode:<br /><a href="https://www.unknowncountry.com/book/the-afterlife-revolution/?grid_referrer=108978">The Afterlife Revolution</a><br /><a href="https://www.unknowncountry.com/book/the-super-natural/?grid_referrer=108978">The Super Natural</a>, by Jeffrey Kripal and Whitley Strieber.<br /><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/american-cosmic-ufos-religion-technology-d-w-pasulka/7352336?ean=9780190692889">American Cosmic</a> by D.W. Pasulka<br /><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/passport-to-magonia-from-folklore-to-flying-saucers-jacques-vallee/12660103?ean=9780987422484">Passport to Magonia</a> by Jacques Vallee<br /><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/intimate-alien-the-hidden-story-of-the-ufo-david-halperin/14849528?ean=9781094083797">Intimate Alien</a>  by David Halperin<br /><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-myth-and-mystery-of-ufos-thomas-e-bullard/10162703?ean=9780700617296">The Myth and Mystery of UFOs</a> by Thomas Bullard</p>
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      <itunes:title>Aliens, Eros, and Life After Death - An Interview with Whitley Strieber</itunes:title>
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      <title>Psychedelic Gnosis and the Imaginal Double with Laurence Caruana</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>For episode two, we welcome <a href="http://lcaruana.com/index.php/biography/">Laurence Caruana</a>, one of the leading figures in the European visionary art world. We discuss the ontology of dreams, Henry Corbin, ayahuasca visions, the language of images, Jesus in the <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-nag-hammadi-scriptures-the-revised-and-updated-translation-of-sacred-gnostic-texts-complete-in-one-volume-james-m-robinson/8978055?ean=9780061626005">Nag Hammadi Library</a>, the ascent of the soul at death, and Laurence’s plan for an <a href="http://lcaruana.com/index.php/chapel-project/">Apocryphon Chapel </a>based on the ancient gnostic scriptures. </p><p>Laurence Caruana is a visionary artist, novelist, historian, and teacher. His paintings have been exhibited from Seattle to Hungary. Laurence has written several books, including <i>Enter through the Image: The Ancient Image Language of Myth, Art, and Dreams</i>, the novel <i>The Hidden Passion</i>, and most recently <i>Sacred Codes</i>, an exploration of sacred geometry and imagination in the history of art. He founded and directed the Vienna Academy of Visionary Art from 2013-2020, and is now working on the Apocryphon Chapel, the first such chapel to be modeled on the ancient Gnostic scriptures. </p><p><a href="https://cswr.hds.harvard.edu/transcendence-and-transformation-podcast-pop-apocalypse">Pop Apocalypse CSWR homepage</a></p><p><a href="http://lcaruana.com/">Laurence Carauna's webpage</a></p><p><a href="http://lcaruana.com/index.php/chapel-project/">The Apocryphon Chapel</a></p><p><a href="http://aprildeconick.com/">April DeConick webpage</a></p><p><a href="http://aprildeconick.com/gnosis-in-song-and-rhthym">Gnosis in Song and Rhythm</a></p><p><a href="https://www.webofmimicry.com/">Secret Chiefs 3 homepage</a></p><p>Henry Corbin, <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-man-of-light-in-iranian-sufism-henry-corbin/9634732?ean=9780930872489"><i>The Man of Light in Iranian Sufism</i></a><i>,</i> <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/alone-with-the-alone-creative-imagination-in-the-s-363-fism-of-ibn-arab-299-henry-corbin/10418547?ean=9780691058344"><i>Alone with the Alone </i></a></p><p>Elliott Wolfson, <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/through-a-speculum-that-shines-vision-and-imagination-in-medieval-jewish-mysticism-elliot-r-wolfson/10381561?ean=9780691017228"><i>Through a Speculum that Shines</i></a><i>, </i><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/a-dream-interpreted-within-a-dream-oneiropoiesis-and-the-prism-of-imagination-elliot-r-wolfson/7018713?ean=9781935408147">A Dream Interpreted Within a Dream</a></p><p>Charles Stang, <a href="https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674287198"><i>Our Divine Double</i></a><i>. </i></p>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 23 Apr 2023 12:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>mdillon@hds.harvard.edu (Laurence Caruana, Secret Chiefs 3, Matthew J. Dillon)</author>
      <link>https://pop-apocalypse.simplecast.com/episodes/psychedelic-transfigurations-and-the-imaginal-double-with-laurence-caruana-tl9LC1MQ</link>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For episode two, we welcome <a href="http://lcaruana.com/index.php/biography/">Laurence Caruana</a>, one of the leading figures in the European visionary art world. We discuss the ontology of dreams, Henry Corbin, ayahuasca visions, the language of images, Jesus in the <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-nag-hammadi-scriptures-the-revised-and-updated-translation-of-sacred-gnostic-texts-complete-in-one-volume-james-m-robinson/8978055?ean=9780061626005">Nag Hammadi Library</a>, the ascent of the soul at death, and Laurence’s plan for an <a href="http://lcaruana.com/index.php/chapel-project/">Apocryphon Chapel </a>based on the ancient gnostic scriptures. </p><p>Laurence Caruana is a visionary artist, novelist, historian, and teacher. His paintings have been exhibited from Seattle to Hungary. Laurence has written several books, including <i>Enter through the Image: The Ancient Image Language of Myth, Art, and Dreams</i>, the novel <i>The Hidden Passion</i>, and most recently <i>Sacred Codes</i>, an exploration of sacred geometry and imagination in the history of art. He founded and directed the Vienna Academy of Visionary Art from 2013-2020, and is now working on the Apocryphon Chapel, the first such chapel to be modeled on the ancient Gnostic scriptures. </p><p><a href="https://cswr.hds.harvard.edu/transcendence-and-transformation-podcast-pop-apocalypse">Pop Apocalypse CSWR homepage</a></p><p><a href="http://lcaruana.com/">Laurence Carauna's webpage</a></p><p><a href="http://lcaruana.com/index.php/chapel-project/">The Apocryphon Chapel</a></p><p><a href="http://aprildeconick.com/">April DeConick webpage</a></p><p><a href="http://aprildeconick.com/gnosis-in-song-and-rhthym">Gnosis in Song and Rhythm</a></p><p><a href="https://www.webofmimicry.com/">Secret Chiefs 3 homepage</a></p><p>Henry Corbin, <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-man-of-light-in-iranian-sufism-henry-corbin/9634732?ean=9780930872489"><i>The Man of Light in Iranian Sufism</i></a><i>,</i> <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/alone-with-the-alone-creative-imagination-in-the-s-363-fism-of-ibn-arab-299-henry-corbin/10418547?ean=9780691058344"><i>Alone with the Alone </i></a></p><p>Elliott Wolfson, <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/through-a-speculum-that-shines-vision-and-imagination-in-medieval-jewish-mysticism-elliot-r-wolfson/10381561?ean=9780691017228"><i>Through a Speculum that Shines</i></a><i>, </i><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/a-dream-interpreted-within-a-dream-oneiropoiesis-and-the-prism-of-imagination-elliot-r-wolfson/7018713?ean=9781935408147">A Dream Interpreted Within a Dream</a></p><p>Charles Stang, <a href="https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674287198"><i>Our Divine Double</i></a><i>. </i></p>
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