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      <itunes:summary>In this episode, we&apos;re shaking things up a bit as Erin Hartje, Head of Brand at Avoma, steps into the hosting seat. We are diving deep into the world of coaching with none other than Aditya Kothadiya, CEO of Avoma.

As we step into 2024 with aspirations for growth and improvement, coaching takes center stage in our discussion. Aditya shares invaluable insights into why coaching should be a top priority for leaders across various teams, not just in sales but also in customer success, marketing, and beyond.

Drawing from Avoma&apos;s expertise, we explore practical ways to implement effective coaching practices. From setting up regular, proactive coaching sessions to utilizing AI for personalized feedback, we talk about actionable steps leaders can take to elevate team performance.

But it&apos;s not all just about the processes—it&apos;s about the culture. We delve into the importance of embedding a coaching culture within organizations, right from the hiring process. How to find the right fit for your team, someone who embraces feedback and values continuous improvement.

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As we step into 2024 with aspirations for growth and improvement, coaching takes center stage in our discussion. Aditya shares invaluable insights into why coaching should be a top priority for leaders across various teams, not just in sales but also in customer success, marketing, and beyond.

Drawing from Avoma&apos;s expertise, we explore practical ways to implement effective coaching practices. From setting up regular, proactive coaching sessions to utilizing AI for personalized feedback, we talk about actionable steps leaders can take to elevate team performance.

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Tune in and get ready to elevate your coaching game!</itunes:subtitle>
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Today, competition is popping up all around us, vying for the attention of the very few buyers ready to buy. Sellers need to up their game. 

Join us for a casual chat where Sujan shares insights on standing out to modern buyers, crafting a killer pitch and what Sales leaders must know and do in order to win.

Whether you're a seasoned SaaS leader or just starting out, this episode is your fast track to success in the hustle of the competitive market. Let's dive in and start winning together!
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Join us for a casual chat where Sujan shares insights on standing out to modern buyers, crafting a killer pitch and what Sales leaders must know and do in order to win.

Whether you&apos;re a seasoned SaaS leader or just starting out, this episode is your fast track to success in the hustle of the competitive market. Let&apos;s dive in and start winning together!</itunes:summary>
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Join us for a casual chat where Sujan shares insights on standing out to modern buyers, crafting a killer pitch and what Sales leaders must know and do in order to win.

Whether you&apos;re a seasoned SaaS leader or just starting out, this episode is your fast track to success in the hustle of the competitive market. Let&apos;s dive in and start winning together!</itunes:subtitle>
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Aditya and Natalie Marcotullio, Head of Growth and Operations at Navattic, kick back to chat about the best practices for creating modern buying experiences that actually convert. Discover strategies to turn visitors into customers, beginning with your website's explainer video and how you present (or hide) pricing. Make sure you're effectively showcasing the true value of your product, making it a no-brainer for potential buyers.

Aditya and Natalie also dive into some additional tips for PLG companies when choosing the right channels for your audience, how to build nurture campaigns and starting your own influencer program to keep your brand top of mind.
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Modern SaaS Podcast, Lloyed Lobo, the founder of Boast.ai and Traction, joins us to discuss how to go about building a community. Lloyed is also the author of the book "From Grassroots to Greatness" which gives you 13 rules to build an iconic brand with the help of comunity. </p><p>Through this episode, he shares with us the insights he's gathered from years of experience in building startups, communities, events, and conferences, and distills community building into a framework called CAMPER. <br /><br />𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗣𝗧𝗘𝗥𝗦<br /><br />00:00 - Intro </p><p>01:53 - The problem discovery for Boast.ai </p><p>04:42 - Startups are built in phases </p><p>07:11 - The two major gaps that startup community solves </p><p>08:25 - How to identify which problem to tackle </p><p>12:40 - How the Traction conference came into being </p><p>16:13 - Building social proof </p><p>25:15 - Budgeting and ROI planning when building a community </p><p>28:00 - Overcoming setbacks </p><p>30:25 - Need to communicate value regularly </p><p>32:10 - Lloyed's inspiring story </p><p>39:00 - The CAMPER framework for community building </p><p>39:48 - How concepts become a cult </p><p>41:21 - 6 core values </p><p>53:30 - Where should you start? </p><p>55:00 - Types of communities you can build </p><p>1:00:00 - Enabling customers to run your community </p><p>1:07:37 - Why host the cool parties </p><p>1:12:57 - Closing notes </p><p> </p><p>💌 Connect with Lloyed Lobo💌 </p><p>➟ Linkedin 🔗 https://www.linkedin.com/in/lloyedlobo/ </p><p> </p><p>Also, please listen to the episode on: </p><p>➟ Apple 🔗 </p><p>➟ Spotify 🔗 </p><p> </p><p>✨ Subscribe to Avoma's Channel✨ </p><p>🔗https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpSiDrsEUx2Qywfb1V3CII </p><p>✨About Avoma✨ </p><p>Avoma is an end-to-end AI meeting assistant for customer-facing teams. Its AI-powered technology helps customer-facing teams capture important customer information, before, during, and after important meetings. </p><p>🔗 https://www.avoma.com/ </p><p>🎥𝗖𝗵𝗲𝗰𝗸𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗠𝘆 𝗢𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿 𝗩𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗼𝘀 </p><p>➟ The game-changing shift in SaaS sales | Mona Akmal | The Modern SaaS Podcast | Ep #23 🔗 https://youtu.be/hYRTP5eVlow </p><p>➟ How to close deals faster in the current economy | Mor Assouline | The Modern SaaS Podcast | Ep #24 🔗https://youtu.be/l5JISfmFUFk </p><p> </p><p>𝗙𝗼𝗹𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝗢𝗻 𝗦𝗼𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗹 </p><p>➟ Linkedin 🔗https://www.linkedin.com/company/avoma </p><p>➟ Twitter 🔗https://twitter.com/AvomaInc </p><p> </p><p>#saas #community #communityconnection </p><p> </p><p>𝗥𝗲𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗦𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗰𝗵𝗲𝘀: </p><p>community building </p><p>community l</p><p>loyed lobo </p><p>grassroots to greatness</p>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2023 08:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>aditya@avoma.com (lloyed lobo, Aditya Kothadiya)</author>
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      <itunes:summary>In this episode of The Modern SaaS Podcast, Lloyed Lobo, the founder of Boast.ai and Traction, joins us to discuss how to go about building a community. Lloyed is also the author of the book &quot;From Grassroots to Greatness&quot; which gives you 13 rules to build an iconic brand with the help of comunity. 

Through this episode, he shares with us the insights he&apos;s gathered from years of experience in building startups, communities, events, and conferences, and distills community building into a framework called CAMPER. 

𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗣𝗧𝗘𝗥𝗦


00:00 - Intro 
01:53 -The problem discovery for Boast.ai 
04:42 - Startups are built in phases 
07:11 - The two major gaps that startup community solves 
08:25 - How to identify which problem to tackle 
12:40 - How the Traction conference came into being 
16:13 - Building social proof 
25:15 - Budgeting and ROI planning when building a community 
28:00 - Overcoming setbacks 
30:25 - Need to communicate value regularly 
32:10 - Lloyed&apos;s inspiring story 
39:00 - The CAMPER framework for community building 
39:48 - How concepts become a cult 
41:21 - 6 core values 
53:30 - Where should you start? 
55:00 - Types of communities you can build 
1:00:00 - Enabling customers to run your community 
1:07:37 - Why host the cool parties 
1:12:57 - Closing notes </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode of The Modern SaaS Podcast, Lloyed Lobo, the founder of Boast.ai and Traction, joins us to discuss how to go about building a community. Lloyed is also the author of the book &quot;From Grassroots to Greatness&quot; which gives you 13 rules to build an iconic brand with the help of comunity. 

Through this episode, he shares with us the insights he&apos;s gathered from years of experience in building startups, communities, events, and conferences, and distills community building into a framework called CAMPER. 

𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗣𝗧𝗘𝗥𝗦


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04:42 - Startups are built in phases 
07:11 - The two major gaps that startup community solves 
08:25 - How to identify which problem to tackle 
12:40 - How the Traction conference came into being 
16:13 - Building social proof 
25:15 - Budgeting and ROI planning when building a community 
28:00 - Overcoming setbacks 
30:25 - Need to communicate value regularly 
32:10 - Lloyed&apos;s inspiring story 
39:00 - The CAMPER framework for community building 
39:48 - How concepts become a cult 
41:21 - 6 core values 
53:30 - Where should you start? 
55:00 - Types of communities you can build 
1:00:00 - Enabling customers to run your community 
1:07:37 - Why host the cool parties 
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Modern SaaS Podcast, Aman Singh, founder of The Curious Consultant explains how problem defining and problem solving are two different facets of sales and customer success. </p><p>𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗣𝗧𝗘𝗥𝗦</p><p> </p><p>00:00 - Intro </p><p>01:16 - The story behind 'The Curious Consultant' </p><p>04:10 - The taboo behind talking about failures </p><p>07:27 - The hypothesis of inefficient meetings </p><p>08:40 - Failing your way to success </p><p>11:33 - The need to be vulnerable </p><p>16:10 - 80% of your sales is won and lost in discovery calls </p><p>16:26 - Lead with fear </p><p>18:42 - Why extreme ownership is important for sales </p><p>19:17 - Problem defining </p><p>25:23 - Problem defining vs problem solving </p><p>29:34 - How to know you've moved from symptoms to disease </p><p>32:04 - Understanding introversion vs extroversion </p><p>38:58 - Gender biases in sales </p><p>44:30 - Selling to different geos</p><p>49:04 - Do not use presentations, have conversations </p><p>52:35 - Closing notes </p><p> </p><p>💌 Connect with Aman Singh💌 </p><p>➟ Linkedin 🔗 https://www.linkedin.com/in/thecuriousconsultant/ </p><p> </p><p>Also, please listen to the episode on: </p><p>➟ Apple 🔗 </p><p>➟ Spotify 🔗 </p><p>✨ Subscribe to Avoma's Channel✨ </p><p>🔗https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpSiDrsEUx2Qywfb1V3CII </p><p>✨About Avoma✨ Avoma is an end-to-end AI meeting assistant for customer-facing teams. Its AI-powered technology helps customer-facing teams capture important customer information, before, during, and after important meetings. </p><p>🔗 https://www.avoma.com/ </p><p>🎥𝗖𝗵𝗲𝗰𝗸𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗠𝘆 𝗢𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿 𝗩𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗼𝘀 </p><p>➟ The game-changing shift in SaaS sales | Mona Akmal | The Modern SaaS Podcast | Ep #23 🔗 https://youtu.be/hYRTP5eVlow </p><p>➟ How to close deals faster in the current economy | Mor Assouline | The Modern SaaS Podcast | Ep #24 🔗https://youtu.be/l5JISfmFUFk </p><p>➟ How Onboarding Shapes Churn & Expansions | Srikrishnan Ganesan | The Modern SaaS Podcast | Ep #25 🔗https://youtu.be/V4Ug50Z9SVg </p><p>𝗙𝗼𝗹𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝗢𝗻 𝗦𝗼𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗹 </p><p>➟ Linkedin 🔗https://www.linkedin.com/company/avoma </p><p>➟ Twitter 🔗https://twitter.com/AvomaInc </p><p>#saas #sales #problemsolving </p><p>𝗥𝗲𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗦𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗰𝗵𝗲𝘀: </p><p>problem defining </p><p>modern saas podcast </p><p>problem solving </p><p>customer churn </p><p>sales discovery</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 5 Sep 2023 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:title>How problem defining helps you close deals faster: Aman Singh</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:summary>In this episode of The Modern SaaS Podcast, Aman Singh, founder of The Curious Consultant explains how problem defining and problem solving are two different facets of sales and customer success. 

𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗣𝗧𝗘𝗥𝗦 

00:00 - Intro 
01:16 - The story behind &apos;The Curious Consultant&apos; 
04:10 - The taboo behind talking about failures 
07:27 - The hypothesis of inefficient meetings 
08:40 - Failing your way to success 
11:33 - The need to be vulnerable 
16:10 - 80% of your sales is won and lost in discovery calls 
16:26 - Lead with fear 
18:42 - Why extreme ownership is important for sales 
19:17 - Problem defining 
25:23 - Problem defining vs problem solving 
29:34 - How to know you&apos;ve moved from symptoms to disease 
32:04 - Understanding introversion vs extroversion 
38:58 - Gender biases in sales 
44:30 - Selling to different geos
49:04 - Do not use presentations, have conversations 
52:35 - Closing notes </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode of The Modern SaaS Podcast, Aman Singh, founder of The Curious Consultant explains how problem defining and problem solving are two different facets of sales and customer success. 

𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗣𝗧𝗘𝗥𝗦 

00:00 - Intro 
01:16 - The story behind &apos;The Curious Consultant&apos; 
04:10 - The taboo behind talking about failures 
07:27 - The hypothesis of inefficient meetings 
08:40 - Failing your way to success 
11:33 - The need to be vulnerable 
16:10 - 80% of your sales is won and lost in discovery calls 
16:26 - Lead with fear 
18:42 - Why extreme ownership is important for sales 
19:17 - Problem defining 
25:23 - Problem defining vs problem solving 
29:34 - How to know you&apos;ve moved from symptoms to disease 
32:04 - Understanding introversion vs extroversion 
38:58 - Gender biases in sales 
44:30 - Selling to different geos
49:04 - Do not use presentations, have conversations 
52:35 - Closing notes </itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Modern SaaS Podcast, Srikrishnan Ganesan, the CEO of Rocketlane, joins us to discuss how customer onboarding shapes churn and expansions. </p><p>He shares with us the insights he's gathered from years of experience, and explains how onboarding can help your company avoid costly churn and help you build the base for account expansions. </p><p>𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗣𝗧𝗘𝗥𝗦 </p><p> </p><p>00:00 - Intro </p><p>00:56 -True churn happens in onboarding </p><p>03:22 - The story behind Rocketlane </p><p>06:32 - The customer shareability gap </p><p>09:48 - Purpose built software vs. all-in-one solutions </p><p>15:19 - Need for customer status update </p><p>18:13 - Common mistake: Not sharing implementation timelines with customer </p><p>22:42 - Have a pre-kick off call </p><p>27:43 - Shifting responsibilities in the product-led sales world </p><p>31:06 - Role of community in shaping the product </p><p>34:30 - How building a community helps </p><p>38:06 - Where does community fit in the org chart </p><p>40:04 - What's a great buyer journey </p><p>43:53 - Focus on brand from early </p><p>44:46 - Closing notes </p><p> </p><p>💌 Connect with Srikrishnan Ganesan💌 </p><p>➟ Linkedin 🔗 https://www.linkedin.com/in/srikrishnang </p><p> </p><p>Also, please listen to the episode on: </p><p>➟ Apple 🔗 </p><p>➟ Spotify 🔗 </p><p> </p><p>✨ Subscribe to Avoma's Channel✨ </p><p>🔗https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpSiDrsEUx2Qywfb1V3CII </p><p> </p><p>✨About Avoma✨ </p><p>Avoma is an end-to-end AI meeting assistant for customer-facing teams. Its AI-powered technology helps customer-facing teams capture important customer information, before, during, and after important meetings. </p><p>🔗 https://www.avoma.com/ </p><p> </p><p>🎥𝗖𝗵𝗲𝗰𝗸𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗠𝘆 𝗢𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿 𝗩𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗼𝘀 </p><p>➟ The game-changing shift in SaaS sales | Mona Akmal | The Modern SaaS Podcast | Ep #23 🔗 https://youtu.be/hYRTP5eVlow </p><p>➟ How to close deals faster in the current economy | Mor Assouline | The Modern SaaS Podcast | Ep #24 🔗https://youtu.be/l5JISfmFUFk </p><p>𝗙𝗼𝗹𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝗢𝗻 𝗦𝗼𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗹 </p><p>➟ Linkedin 🔗https://www.linkedin.com/company/avoma </p><p>➟ Twitter 🔗https://twitter.com/AvomaInc </p><p>#saas #customerexperience #onboarding</p><p> </p><p>𝗥𝗲𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗦𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗰𝗵𝗲𝘀: <br />customer onboarding <br />modern saas podcast <br />modern onboarding <br />customer churn <br />account expansions</p>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2023 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>aditya@avoma.com (Srikrishnan Ganesan, Aditya Kothadiya)</author>
      <link>https://modern-saas.simplecast.com/episodes/how-onboarding-shapes-churn-expansions-srikrishnan-ganesan-y4hEIeYn</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Modern SaaS Podcast, Srikrishnan Ganesan, the CEO of Rocketlane, joins us to discuss how customer onboarding shapes churn and expansions. </p><p>He shares with us the insights he's gathered from years of experience, and explains how onboarding can help your company avoid costly churn and help you build the base for account expansions. </p><p>𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗣𝗧𝗘𝗥𝗦 </p><p> </p><p>00:00 - Intro </p><p>00:56 -True churn happens in onboarding </p><p>03:22 - The story behind Rocketlane </p><p>06:32 - The customer shareability gap </p><p>09:48 - Purpose built software vs. all-in-one solutions </p><p>15:19 - Need for customer status update </p><p>18:13 - Common mistake: Not sharing implementation timelines with customer </p><p>22:42 - Have a pre-kick off call </p><p>27:43 - Shifting responsibilities in the product-led sales world </p><p>31:06 - Role of community in shaping the product </p><p>34:30 - How building a community helps </p><p>38:06 - Where does community fit in the org chart </p><p>40:04 - What's a great buyer journey </p><p>43:53 - Focus on brand from early </p><p>44:46 - Closing notes </p><p> </p><p>💌 Connect with Srikrishnan Ganesan💌 </p><p>➟ Linkedin 🔗 https://www.linkedin.com/in/srikrishnang </p><p> </p><p>Also, please listen to the episode on: </p><p>➟ Apple 🔗 </p><p>➟ Spotify 🔗 </p><p> </p><p>✨ Subscribe to Avoma's Channel✨ </p><p>🔗https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpSiDrsEUx2Qywfb1V3CII </p><p> </p><p>✨About Avoma✨ </p><p>Avoma is an end-to-end AI meeting assistant for customer-facing teams. Its AI-powered technology helps customer-facing teams capture important customer information, before, during, and after important meetings. </p><p>🔗 https://www.avoma.com/ </p><p> </p><p>🎥𝗖𝗵𝗲𝗰𝗸𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗠𝘆 𝗢𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿 𝗩𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗼𝘀 </p><p>➟ The game-changing shift in SaaS sales | Mona Akmal | The Modern SaaS Podcast | Ep #23 🔗 https://youtu.be/hYRTP5eVlow </p><p>➟ How to close deals faster in the current economy | Mor Assouline | The Modern SaaS Podcast | Ep #24 🔗https://youtu.be/l5JISfmFUFk </p><p>𝗙𝗼𝗹𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝗢𝗻 𝗦𝗼𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗹 </p><p>➟ Linkedin 🔗https://www.linkedin.com/company/avoma </p><p>➟ Twitter 🔗https://twitter.com/AvomaInc </p><p>#saas #customerexperience #onboarding</p><p> </p><p>𝗥𝗲𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗦𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗰𝗵𝗲𝘀: <br />customer onboarding <br />modern saas podcast <br />modern onboarding <br />customer churn <br />account expansions</p>
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      <itunes:title>How onboarding shapes customer churn &amp; expansions: Srikrishnan Ganesan</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:duration>00:46:10</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>In this episode of The Modern SaaS Podcast, Srikrishnan Ganesan, the CEO of Rocketlane, joins us to discuss how customer onboarding shapes churn and expansions. 

He shares with us the insights he&apos;s gathered from years of experience, and explains how onboarding can help your company avoid costly churn and help you build the base for account expansions. 

𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗣𝗧𝗘𝗥𝗦 

00:00 - Intro 
00:56 -True churn happens in onboarding 
03:22 - The story behind Rocketlane 
06:32 - The customer shareability gap 
09:48 - Purpose built software vs. all-in-one solutions 
15:19 - Need for customer status update 
18:13 - Common mistake: Not sharing implementation timelines with customer 
22:42 - Have a pre-kick off call 
27:43 - Shifting responsibilities in the product-led sales world 
31:06 - Role of community in shaping the product 
34:30 - How building a community helps 
38:06 - Where does community fit in the org chart 
40:04 - What&apos;s a great buyer journey 
43:53 - Focus on brand from early 
44:46 - Closing notes </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode of The Modern SaaS Podcast, Srikrishnan Ganesan, the CEO of Rocketlane, joins us to discuss how customer onboarding shapes churn and expansions. 

He shares with us the insights he&apos;s gathered from years of experience, and explains how onboarding can help your company avoid costly churn and help you build the base for account expansions. 

𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗣𝗧𝗘𝗥𝗦 

00:00 - Intro 
00:56 -True churn happens in onboarding 
03:22 - The story behind Rocketlane 
06:32 - The customer shareability gap 
09:48 - Purpose built software vs. all-in-one solutions 
15:19 - Need for customer status update 
18:13 - Common mistake: Not sharing implementation timelines with customer 
22:42 - Have a pre-kick off call 
27:43 - Shifting responsibilities in the product-led sales world 
31:06 - Role of community in shaping the product 
34:30 - How building a community helps 
38:06 - Where does community fit in the org chart 
40:04 - What&apos;s a great buyer journey 
43:53 - Focus on brand from early 
44:46 - Closing notes </itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>How to close deals faster in the current economy: Mor Assouline</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Modern SaaS Podcast, Mor Assouline, the founder of FDTC, shares with us some his insights on what it takes in the current economic conditions to have a better deal close rate and how to create successful customer journeys.<br /><br />He shares actionable tips on how to do forecasting better, set the right expectations, and what high quality sales discovery and demo looks like. <br /><br />𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗣𝗧𝗘𝗥𝗦 </p><p>00:00 - Intro </p><p>01:40 - Is it a market issue or sales issue? </p><p>06:42 - How to arrive at sales quota </p><p>10:27 - Setting expectations upfront </p><p>11:29 - The need for sales coaching for the current environment </p><p>11:14 - Why sales needs so much coaching? </p><p>15:16 - Building a buyer scenario matrix </p><p>18:10 - How much should reps know about their product </p><p>24:30 - The frustrations in buying experience </p><p>29:30 - Qualifying the demos booked </p><p>32:16 - Optimizing the demo to close experience </p><p>33:31 - Things not to miss when you give a demo </p><p>36:48 - Case example: How to do a disco+demo </p><p>39:45 - The narrative is more important than the feature </p><p>41:28 - Building a culture of learning </p><p>46:52 - Habits to get the most value of meeting insights </p><p>52:00 - Build familiarity before your do your outreach </p><p>52:34 - Closing notes <br /><br />💌 Connect with Mor Assouline💌 <br />➟ Linkedin 🔗https://www.linkedin.com/in/morassouline/ <br /><br />Also, please listen to the episode on: <br />➟ Apple 🔗 <br />➟ Spotify 🔗 <br /><br />✨ Subscribe to Avoma's Channel✨ <br />🔗https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpSiDrsEUx2Qywfb1V3CII <br /><br />✨About Avoma✨ Avoma is an end-to-end AI meeting assistant for customer-facing teams. Its AI-powered technology helps customer-facing teams capture important customer information, before, during, and after important meetings. </p><p>🔗 https://www.avoma.com/ <br /><br />🎥𝗖𝗵𝗲𝗰𝗸𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗠𝘆 𝗢𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿 𝗩𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗼𝘀 <br />➟ The game-changing shift in SaaS sales | Mona Akmal | The Modern SaaS Podcast | Ep #23 🔗 https://youtu.be/hYRTP5eVlow </p><p>➟ 7 creative prospecting tips to stand out in tough financial times | Ep 22 | The Modern SaaS Podcast 🔗 https://youtu.be/8VAE892WQCw <br /><br />𝗙𝗼𝗹𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝗢𝗻 𝗦𝗼𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗹 <br />➟ Linkedin 🔗https://www.linkedin.com/company/avoma <br />➟ Twitter 🔗https://twitter.com/AvomaInc #saas #sales #selling <br /><br />𝗥𝗲𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗦𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗰𝗵𝗲𝘀: <br />sales quota <br />modern saas <br />modern sales <br />forecasting</p>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 14 Jul 2023 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>aditya@avoma.com (Mor Assouline, Aditya Kothadiya)</author>
      <link>https://modern-saas.simplecast.com/episodes/how-to-close-deals-faster-in-the-current-economy-mor-assouline-_iuwcUR4</link>
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      <itunes:title>How to close deals faster in the current economy: Mor Assouline</itunes:title>
      <itunes:author>Mor Assouline, Aditya Kothadiya</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In this episode of The Modern SaaS Podcast, Mor Assouline, the founder of FDTC, shares with us some his insights on what it takes in the current economic conditions to have a better deal close rate and how to create successful customer journeys.

He shares actionable tips on how to do forecasting better, set the right expectations, and what high quality sales discovery and demo looks like. 

𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗣𝗧𝗘𝗥𝗦 
00:00 - Intro 
01:40 - Is it a market issue or sales issue? 
06:42 - How to arrive at sales quota 
10:27 - Setting expectations upfront 
11:29 - The need for sales coaching for the current environment 
11:14 - Why sales needs so much coaching? 
15:16 - Building a buyer scenario matrix 
18:10 - How much should reps know about their product 
24:30 - The frustrations in buying experience 
29:30 - Qualifying the demos booked 
32:16 - Optimizing the demo to close experience 
33:31 - Things not to miss when you give a demo 
36:48 - Case example: How to do a disco+demo 
39:45 - The narrative is more important than the feature 
41:28 - Building a culture of learning 
46:52 - Habits to get the most value of meeting insights 
52:00 - Build familiarity before your do your outreach 
52:34 - Closing notes </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode of The Modern SaaS Podcast, Mor Assouline, the founder of FDTC, shares with us some his insights on what it takes in the current economic conditions to have a better deal close rate and how to create successful customer journeys.

He shares actionable tips on how to do forecasting better, set the right expectations, and what high quality sales discovery and demo looks like. 

𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗣𝗧𝗘𝗥𝗦 
00:00 - Intro 
01:40 - Is it a market issue or sales issue? 
06:42 - How to arrive at sales quota 
10:27 - Setting expectations upfront 
11:29 - The need for sales coaching for the current environment 
11:14 - Why sales needs so much coaching? 
15:16 - Building a buyer scenario matrix 
18:10 - How much should reps know about their product 
24:30 - The frustrations in buying experience 
29:30 - Qualifying the demos booked 
32:16 - Optimizing the demo to close experience 
33:31 - Things not to miss when you give a demo 
36:48 - Case example: How to do a disco+demo 
39:45 - The narrative is more important than the feature 
41:28 - Building a culture of learning 
46:52 - Habits to get the most value of meeting insights 
52:00 - Build familiarity before your do your outreach 
52:34 - Closing notes </itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Mona Akmal, CEO of Falkon AI, joins Aditya Kothadiya on the Modern SaaS Podcast to talk about the game-changing shift in SaaS sales. In this episode, Mona discusses the shocking truth about how SaaS sales works in today's world. </p><p>If you're looking to improve the buyer experience and sales conversion, then this episode is for you. </p><p>𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗣𝗧𝗘𝗥𝗦</p><p>00:00 - Intro </p><p>01:17 - The Falkon journey </p><p>03:36 - Sales and pivots based on feedback </p><p>05:44 - Why sales win rates go down upon transition from founder-led? </p><p>07:10 - Founders should never hire sales until... </p><p>11:14 - Why sales needs so much coaching? </p><p>16:20 - Sales acumen is key </p><p>18:24 - The sales decision tree </p><p>19:45 - Executing the sales decision tree </p><p>22:22 - Bad sales advice vs good advice </p><p>27:54 - Sales now is different from last 5 years </p><p>33:00 - Improve sales efficiency </p><p>34:28 - Don't bring your sales engineer on your first demo </p><p>39:50 - Don't offer this kind of experience </p><p>40:46 - The mistake while we sell </p><p>47:06 - How is Falkon different </p><p>52:17 - Stop chasing product market fit </p><p>💌 Connect with Mona Akmal💌 </p><p>➟ Linkedin 🔗 https://www.linkedin.com/in/mona-akmal/ </p><p>Also, please listen to the episode on: </p><p>➟ Apple 🔗 </p><p>➟ Spotify 🔗 </p><p>➟ Google Podcast 🔗 </p><p>✨ Subscribe to Avoma's Channel✨ </p><p>🔗https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpSiDrsEUx2Qywfb1V3CII </p><p>✨About Avoma✨ </p><p>Avoma is an end-to-end AI meeting assistant for customer-facing teams. Its AI-powered technology helps customer-facing teams capture important customer information, before, during, and after important meetings. </p><p>🔗 https://www.avoma.com/ </p><p>🎥𝗖𝗵𝗲𝗰𝗸𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗠𝘆 𝗢𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿 𝗩𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗼𝘀 </p><p>➟ 7 creative prospecting tips to stand out in tough financial times | Ep 22 | The Modern SaaS Podcast </p><p>🔗 https://youtu.be/8VAE892WQCw </p><p>➟ Modern Prospecting with LinkedIn Social Selling | Episode 21 | The Modern SaaS Podcast </p><p>🔗 https://youtu.be/YT73xDcWOHY </p><p>𝗙𝗼𝗹𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝗢𝗻 𝗦𝗼𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗹 </p><p>➟ Linkedin 🔗https://www.linkedin.com/company/avoma </p><p>➟ Twitter 🔗https://twitter.com/AvomaInc </p><p>#saas #sales #selling </p><p>𝗥𝗲𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗦𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗰𝗵𝗲𝘀: </p><p>sales </p><p>modern saas </p><p>modern sales </p><p>growthmindset</p>
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      <author>aditya@avoma.com (Mona Akmal, Aditya Kothadiya)</author>
      <link>https://modern-saas.simplecast.com/episodes/the-shocking-truth-about-selling-saas-in-todays-market-ZyrAE69Y</link>
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      <itunes:title>The shocking truth about selling SaaS in today&apos;s market</itunes:title>
      <itunes:author>Mona Akmal, Aditya Kothadiya</itunes:author>
      <itunes:duration>00:54:48</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>Mona Akmal, CEO of Falkon AI, joins Aditya Kothadiya on the Modern SaaS Podcast to talk about the game-changing shift in SaaS sales. In this episode, Mona discusses the shocking truth about how SaaS sales works in today&apos;s world.

If you&apos;re looking to improve the buyer experience and sales conversion, then this episode is for you. 

𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗣𝗧𝗘𝗥𝗦
00:00 - Intro
01:17 - The Falkon journey
03:36 - Sales and pivots based on feedback
05:44 - Why sales win rates go down upon transition from founder-led?
07:10 - Founders should never hire sales until...
11:14 - Why sales needs so much coaching?
16:20 - Sales acumen is key
18:24 - The sales decision tree
19:45 - Executing the sales decision tree
22:22 - Bad sales advice vs good advice
27:54 - Sales now is different from last 5 years
33:00 - Improve sales efficiency
34:28 - Don&apos;t bring your sales engineer on your first demo
39:50 - Don&apos;t offer this kind of experience
40:46 - The mistake while we sell
47:06 - How is Falkon different
52:17 - Stop chasing product market fit</itunes:summary>
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If you&apos;re looking to improve the buyer experience and sales conversion, then this episode is for you. 

𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗣𝗧𝗘𝗥𝗦
00:00 - Intro
01:17 - The Falkon journey
03:36 - Sales and pivots based on feedback
05:44 - Why sales win rates go down upon transition from founder-led?
07:10 - Founders should never hire sales until...
11:14 - Why sales needs so much coaching?
16:20 - Sales acumen is key
18:24 - The sales decision tree
19:45 - Executing the sales decision tree
22:22 - Bad sales advice vs good advice
27:54 - Sales now is different from last 5 years
33:00 - Improve sales efficiency
34:28 - Don&apos;t bring your sales engineer on your first demo
39:50 - Don&apos;t offer this kind of experience
40:46 - The mistake while we sell
47:06 - How is Falkon different
52:17 - Stop chasing product market fit</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[In this episode, Kris Rudeegraap (Co-founder & CEO, Sendoso) and Aditya Kothadiya (Co-founder & CEO, Avoma) discuss modern prospecting with creative gifting strategies -- i.e., how you can prospect creatively where your creativity can supersede the budget constraints.

➡️ Key Points⁣ covered

00:00 - Intro
03:20 - Prospecting approach during the economic downturn
05:10 - Good and bad cold outreach experiences
09:30 - The need to be informative than being overly salesy
12:15 - Use sales engagement tools sensibly else it becomes spammy
15:22 - The modern trends in prospecting 
20:00 - It's about getting the tools & strategy combination right
24:05 - The role of gifting while prospecting
26:07 - Personalize your gifting with meaningful notes
31:49 - Gifting is about impact, not the $$ spent
35:40 - Humanize the outreach and relationship
39:25 - How to think about gifting based on ROI
41:08 - Key takeaway

➡️ The Modern SaaS Podcast
Take a look at our other podcast episodes - https://www.avoma.com/podcast

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      <pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2023 08:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>aditya@avoma.com (Kris Rudeegraap, Aditya Kothadiya)</author>
      <link>https://modern-saas.simplecast.com/episodes/modern-prospecting-with-creative-gifting-strategies-UW1VocUa</link>
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      <itunes:title>7 creative prospecting tips to stand out in tough financial times</itunes:title>
      <itunes:author>Kris Rudeegraap, Aditya Kothadiya</itunes:author>
      <itunes:duration>00:41:28</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>In this episode, Kris Rudeegraap (Co-founder &amp; CEO, Sendoso) and Aditya Kothadiya (Co-founder &amp; CEO, Avoma) discuss modern prospecting with creative gifting strategies -- i.e., how you can prospect creatively where your creativity can supersede the budget constraints.

➡️ Key Points⁣ covered

00:00 - Intro
03:20 - Prospecting approach during the economic downturn
05:10 - Good and bad cold outreach experiences
09:30 - The need to be informative than being overly salesy
12:15 - Use sales engagement tools sensibly else it becomes spammy
15:22 - The modern trends in prospecting 
20:00 - It&apos;s about getting the tools &amp; strategy combination right
24:05 - The role of gifting while prospecting
26:07 - Personalize your gifting with meaningful notes
31:49 - Gifting is about impact, not the $$ spent
35:40 - Humanize the outreach and relationship
39:25 - How to think about gifting based on ROI
41:08 - Key takeaway

➡️ The Modern SaaS Podcast
Take a look at our other podcast episodes - https://www.avoma.com/podcast
</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, Kris Rudeegraap (Co-founder &amp; CEO, Sendoso) and Aditya Kothadiya (Co-founder &amp; CEO, Avoma) discuss modern prospecting with creative gifting strategies -- i.e., how you can prospect creatively where your creativity can supersede the budget constraints.

➡️ Key Points⁣ covered

00:00 - Intro
03:20 - Prospecting approach during the economic downturn
05:10 - Good and bad cold outreach experiences
09:30 - The need to be informative than being overly salesy
12:15 - Use sales engagement tools sensibly else it becomes spammy
15:22 - The modern trends in prospecting 
20:00 - It&apos;s about getting the tools &amp; strategy combination right
24:05 - The role of gifting while prospecting
26:07 - Personalize your gifting with meaningful notes
31:49 - Gifting is about impact, not the $$ spent
35:40 - Humanize the outreach and relationship
39:25 - How to think about gifting based on ROI
41:08 - Key takeaway

➡️ The Modern SaaS Podcast
Take a look at our other podcast episodes - https://www.avoma.com/podcast
</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[In this episode, Collin Cadmus (Revenue Growth Coach, Collin Cadmus, LLC) and Aditya Kothadiya (Co-founder & CEO, Avoma) discuss modern prospecting -- i.e., how to prospect in the modern SaaS era.

➡️ Key Points⁣ covered

00:00 - Intro
01:31 - What Collin Cadmus is upto, these days
04:05 - Make human sales more valuable than AI
07:52 - Recent bad experience when prospecting wasn't done well
15:58 - Why you don't recall great outreach experiences
18:56 - The mindset due to which prospecting fails
24:13 - How to get started with social selling on LinkedIn
27:07 - Start doing before selling it
32:00 - How building authority with authenticity works
39:33 - Converting the thought leadership into booking meetings
43:00 - Why it takes long for best practices to change
46:05 - Transition from dollars to value
54:02 - What does a forward looking SDR compensation model look like?
1:01:02 - Key highlights & takeaways
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      <author>aditya@avoma.com (Collin Cadmus, Aditya Kothadiya)</author>
      <link>https://modern-saas.simplecast.com/episodes/modern-prospecting-the-way-to-prospect-in-saas-OfPuOqVT</link>
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      <itunes:title>Modern Prospecting with LinkedIn Social Selling</itunes:title>
      <itunes:author>Collin Cadmus, Aditya Kothadiya</itunes:author>
      <itunes:duration>01:03:38</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>In this episode, Collin Cadmus (Revenue Growth Coach, Collin Cadmus, LLC) and Aditya Kothadiya (Co-founder &amp; CEO, Avoma) discuss modern prospecting -- i.e., how to prospect in the modern SaaS era.

➡️ Key Points⁣ covered

00:00 - Intro
01:31 - What Collin Cadmus is upto, these days
04:05 - Make human sales more valuable than AI
07:52 - Recent bad experience when prospecting wasn&apos;t done well
15:58 - Why you don&apos;t recall great outreach experiences
18:56 - The mindset due to which prospecting fails
24:13 - How to get started with social selling on LinkedIn
27:07 - Start doing before selling it
32:00 - How building authority with authenticity works
39:33 - Converting the thought leadership into booking meetings
43:00 - Why it takes long for best practices to change
46:05 - Transition from dollars to value
54:02 - What does a forward looking SDR compensation model look like?
1:01:02 - Key highlights &amp; takeaways</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, Collin Cadmus (Revenue Growth Coach, Collin Cadmus, LLC) and Aditya Kothadiya (Co-founder &amp; CEO, Avoma) discuss modern prospecting -- i.e., how to prospect in the modern SaaS era.

➡️ Key Points⁣ covered

00:00 - Intro
01:31 - What Collin Cadmus is upto, these days
04:05 - Make human sales more valuable than AI
07:52 - Recent bad experience when prospecting wasn&apos;t done well
15:58 - Why you don&apos;t recall great outreach experiences
18:56 - The mindset due to which prospecting fails
24:13 - How to get started with social selling on LinkedIn
27:07 - Start doing before selling it
32:00 - How building authority with authenticity works
39:33 - Converting the thought leadership into booking meetings
43:00 - Why it takes long for best practices to change
46:05 - Transition from dollars to value
54:02 - What does a forward looking SDR compensation model look like?
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how to make it valuable and relevant to the customer, and a lot more.

➡️ Key Points⁣ covered

00:00 - Intro
01:31 - Curiosity - a super power in tech
03:05 - Assessing curiosity of CSMs during interviews
04:36 - How curiosity helps in objection handling
07:03 - Leveraging curiosity in QBRs and check-in meetings
11:03 - Adding real value to your success conversations
12:56 - Preparation going into QBR meetings
16:13 - Keeping a tab on relevance and stickiness
21:05 - Not all questions are created equal
26:07 - What is the right amount of curiosity?
29:20 - Key takeaways
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how to make it valuable and relevant to the customer, and a lot more.

➡️ Key Points⁣ covered

00:00 - Intro
01:31 - Curiosity - a super power in tech
03:05 - Assessing curiosity of CSMs during interviews
04:36 - How curiosity helps in objection handling
07:03 - Leveraging curiosity in QBRs and check-in meetings
11:03 - Adding real value to your success conversations
12:56 - Preparation going into QBR meetings
16:13 - Keeping a tab on relevance and stickiness
21:05 - Not all questions are created equal
26:07 - What is the right amount of curiosity?
29:20 - Key takeaways</itunes:summary>
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how to make it valuable and relevant to the customer, and a lot more.

➡️ Key Points⁣ covered

00:00 - Intro
01:31 - Curiosity - a super power in tech
03:05 - Assessing curiosity of CSMs during interviews
04:36 - How curiosity helps in objection handling
07:03 - Leveraging curiosity in QBRs and check-in meetings
11:03 - Adding real value to your success conversations
12:56 - Preparation going into QBR meetings
16:13 - Keeping a tab on relevance and stickiness
21:05 - Not all questions are created equal
26:07 - What is the right amount of curiosity?
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➡️ Key Points⁣ covered

00:00 - Intro
01:37 - Challenging the prospects all the time
03:05 - Challenging at the prospect stage
04:15 - The key is to understand the problem
04:35 - Qualify and turn down meetings 
06:10 - What to look for in the discovery stage
07:59 - Challenging during prospecting vs discovery
08:30 - Need to identify the perceptions of the prospect
10:20 - Helping to surface the problems
11:37 - Digging into the problem 2-3 levels deep
14:40 - Go beyond symptoms to understand the pain
15:40 - Don't be a Labrador rep :)
16:18 - Getting something in return for specific requests
19:48 - What to do when you sense indecision?
22:56 - What gives you the authority to challenge?
26:34 - Key takeaways
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➡️ Key Points⁣ covered

00:00 - Intro
01:37 - Challenging the prospects all the time
03:05 - Challenging at the prospect stage
04:15 - The key is to understand the problem
04:35 - Qualify and turn down meetings 
06:10 - What to look for in the discovery stage
07:59 - Challenging during prospecting vs discovery
08:30 - Need to identify the perceptions of the prospect
10:20 - Helping to surface the problems
11:37 - Digging into the problem 2-3 levels deep
14:40 - Go beyond symptoms to understand the pain
15:40 - Don&apos;t be a Labrador rep :)
16:18 - Getting something in return for specific requests
19:48 - What to do when you sense indecision?
22:56 - What gives you the authority to challenge?
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➡️ Key Points⁣ covered

00:00 - Intro
01:37 - Challenging the prospects all the time
03:05 - Challenging at the prospect stage
04:15 - The key is to understand the problem
04:35 - Qualify and turn down meetings 
06:10 - What to look for in the discovery stage
07:59 - Challenging during prospecting vs discovery
08:30 - Need to identify the perceptions of the prospect
10:20 - Helping to surface the problems
11:37 - Digging into the problem 2-3 levels deep
14:40 - Go beyond symptoms to understand the pain
15:40 - Don&apos;t be a Labrador rep :)
16:18 - Getting something in return for specific requests
19:48 - What to do when you sense indecision?
22:56 - What gives you the authority to challenge?
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➡️ Key Points⁣ covered

00:00 - Intro
01:06 - How is discovery done differently in a competitive deal
03:01 - Controlling the narrative
05:19 - Understanding the rules of the competitive deal
07:55 - Agreeing on the evaluation process
9:39 - What moves the needle?
11:30 - Identifying the success metrics
17:39 - Humanizing the conversation to win trust
20:25 - Key takeaways
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➡️ Key Points⁣ covered

00:00 - Intro
01:06 - How is discovery done differently in a competitive deal
03:01 - Controlling the narrative
05:19 - Understanding the rules of the competitive deal
07:55 - Agreeing on the evaluation process
9:39 - What moves the needle?
11:30 - Identifying the success metrics
17:39 - Humanizing the conversation to win trust
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➡️ Key Points⁣ covered

00:00 - Intro
01:06 - How is discovery done differently in a competitive deal
03:01 - Controlling the narrative
05:19 - Understanding the rules of the competitive deal
07:55 - Agreeing on the evaluation process
9:39 - What moves the needle?
11:30 - Identifying the success metrics
17:39 - Humanizing the conversation to win trust
20:25 - Key takeaways</itunes:subtitle>
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➡️ Key Points⁣ covered

00:52 - It's not just about implementation, but about the process, enablement and strategy
02:16 - Should CS Ops sit within CS or RevOps or overall Ops?
05:10 - The key takeaway from Gainsight Pulse

➡️ The Modern SaaS Podcast
Take a look at our other podcast episodes - https://www.avoma.com/podcast

➡️ Related resource
https://www.avoma.com/blog/should-you-charge-a-fee-for-customer-success
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      <author>aditya@avoma.com (Mark Stagi, Naquiyah Cash)</author>
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➡️ Key Points⁣ covered

00:52 - It&apos;s not just about implementation, but about the process, enablement and strategy
02:16 - Should CS Ops sit within CS or RevOps or overall Ops?
05:10 - The key takeaway from Gainsight Pulse

➡️ The Modern SaaS Podcast
Take a look at our other podcast episodes - https://www.avoma.com/podcast

➡️ Related resource
https://www.avoma.com/blog/should-you-charge-a-fee-for-customer-success</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, Naquiyah Cash (Gainsight Admin and CS Ops Consultant, Zywave) and Mark Stagi (VP of Customer Success, Avoma) discuss who is best positioned to own CS Ops.

➡️ Key Points⁣ covered

00:52 - It&apos;s not just about implementation, but about the process, enablement and strategy
02:16 - Should CS Ops sit within CS or RevOps or overall Ops?
05:10 - The key takeaway from Gainsight Pulse

➡️ The Modern SaaS Podcast
Take a look at our other podcast episodes - https://www.avoma.com/podcast

➡️ Related resource
https://www.avoma.com/blog/should-you-charge-a-fee-for-customer-success</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[In this episode, Shrenik Mhatre (Senior Manager, Customer Success Architects, VMware) and Mark Stagi (VP of Customer Success, Avoma) discuss the shift in the customer success approach to drive customer outcomes.

➡️ Key Points⁣ covered

00:00 - Intro
00:48 - The change in Customer Success focus in the last couple of years
01:05 - The shift from reactive and feature focused CS to customer's outcomes
02:28 - The struggle in making the shift


➡️ The Modern SaaS Podcast
Take a look at our other podcast episodes - https://www.avoma.com/podcast

➡️ Related resource
https://www.avoma.com/blog/should-you-charge-a-fee-for-customer-success
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      <author>aditya@avoma.com (Mark Stagi, Shrenik Mhatre)</author>
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      <itunes:summary>In this episode, Shrenik Mhatre (Senior Manager, Customer Success Architects, VMware) and Mark Stagi (VP of Customer Success, Avoma) discuss the shift in the customer success approach to drive customer outcomes.

➡️ Key Points⁣ covered

00:00 - Intro
00:48 - The change in Customer Success focus in the last couple of years
01:05 - The shift from reactive and feature focused CS to customer&apos;s outcomes
02:28 - The struggle in making the shift


➡️ The Modern SaaS Podcast
Take a look at our other podcast episodes - https://www.avoma.com/podcast

➡️ Related resource
https://www.avoma.com/blog/should-you-charge-a-fee-for-customer-success</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, Shrenik Mhatre (Senior Manager, Customer Success Architects, VMware) and Mark Stagi (VP of Customer Success, Avoma) discuss the shift in the customer success approach to drive customer outcomes.

➡️ Key Points⁣ covered

00:00 - Intro
00:48 - The change in Customer Success focus in the last couple of years
01:05 - The shift from reactive and feature focused CS to customer&apos;s outcomes
02:28 - The struggle in making the shift


➡️ The Modern SaaS Podcast
Take a look at our other podcast episodes - https://www.avoma.com/podcast

➡️ Related resource
https://www.avoma.com/blog/should-you-charge-a-fee-for-customer-success</itunes:subtitle>
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      <author>aditya@avoma.com (Jane Chowaniec, Mark Stagi)</author>
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      <itunes:author>Jane Chowaniec, Mark Stagi</itunes:author>
      <itunes:duration>00:05:49</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>In this episode, Jane Chowaniec (VP of Customer Success, ISI) and Mark Stagi (VP of Customer Success, Avoma) discuss how businesses may sometimes not make the best use of Quarterly Business Reviews (QBRs) and how to adapt it in the best interest of the customer.

➡️ Key Points⁣ covered

00:30 - The pain point around how QBRs are run
01:40 - How to make QBRs valuable
02:02 - Monthly value emails
03:15 - Should a QBR be a meeting?
03:43 - EBR instead of QBRs
05:13 - The real value in QBRs

➡️ The Modern SaaS Podcast
Take a look at our other podcast episodes - https://www.avoma.com/podcast

➡️ Related resource
https://www.avoma.com/blog/using-qbrs-to-add-value

</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, Jane Chowaniec (VP of Customer Success, ISI) and Mark Stagi (VP of Customer Success, Avoma) discuss how businesses may sometimes not make the best use of Quarterly Business Reviews (QBRs) and how to adapt it in the best interest of the customer.

➡️ Key Points⁣ covered

00:30 - The pain point around how QBRs are run
01:40 - How to make QBRs valuable
02:02 - Monthly value emails
03:15 - Should a QBR be a meeting?
03:43 - EBR instead of QBRs
05:13 - The real value in QBRs

➡️ The Modern SaaS Podcast
Take a look at our other podcast episodes - https://www.avoma.com/podcast

➡️ Related resource
https://www.avoma.com/blog/using-qbrs-to-add-value

</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[In this episode, Aditya and Yaag discuss how despite the plethora of SaaS tools available today, customers still end up having broken experiences. They discuss what it means to really solve for the customer, with an all-in-one approach.

➡️ Key Points⁣ covered

01:14 - The philosophy behind 'why we take an all-in-one approach"
02:20 - The unconventional wisdom that truly helps startups in their early stages
03:15 - Learning from customer workflows
04:00 - Why solving for workflows is important for SMB and mid-market
04:50 - All-in-one doesn't mean several problems randomly
06:24 - All-in-one isn't solving for different customers, but adjacent problems of your core customers
10:10 - Example 1: Solving for meeting workflows
15:10 - Visionary, evolutionary and expansionary approaches to solving customer workflows
19:38 - The scope of best-in-breed solutions 
21:58 - Key takeaways
22:40 - The art is in identifying the 20% pains that impact 80% of the outcome
26:20 - The philosophy goes beyond software platforms

➡️ The Modern SaaS Podcast
Take a look at our other podcast episodes - https://www.avoma.com/podcast

➡️ Related resource
https://www.avoma.com/playbooks-category/sales-playbook
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      <author>aditya@avoma.com (Yaagneshwaran Ganesh, Aditya Kothadiya)</author>
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      <itunes:author>Yaagneshwaran Ganesh, Aditya Kothadiya</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In this episode, Aditya and Yaag discuss how despite the plethora of SaaS tools available today, customers still end up having broken experiences. They discuss what it means to really solve for the customer, with an all-in-one approach.

➡️ Key Points⁣ covered

01:14 - The philosophy behind &apos;why we take an all-in-one approach&quot;
02:20 - The unconventional wisdom that truly helps startups in their early stages
03:15 - Learning from customer workflows
04:00 - Why solving for workflows is important for SMB and mid-market
04:50 - All-in-one doesn&apos;t mean several problems randomly
06:24 - All-in-one isn&apos;t solving for different customers, but adjacent problems of your core customers
10:10 - Example 1: Solving for meeting workflows
15:10 - Visionary, evolutionary and expansionary approaches to solving customer workflows
19:38 - The scope of best-in-breed solutions 
21:58 - Key takeaways
22:40 - The art is in identifying the 20% pains that impact 80% of the outcome
26:20 - The philosophy goes beyond software platforms

➡️ The Modern SaaS Podcast
Take a look at our other podcast episodes - https://www.avoma.com/podcast

➡️ Related resource
https://www.avoma.com/playbooks-category/sales-playbook</itunes:summary>
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➡️ Key Points⁣ covered

01:14 - The philosophy behind &apos;why we take an all-in-one approach&quot;
02:20 - The unconventional wisdom that truly helps startups in their early stages
03:15 - Learning from customer workflows
04:00 - Why solving for workflows is important for SMB and mid-market
04:50 - All-in-one doesn&apos;t mean several problems randomly
06:24 - All-in-one isn&apos;t solving for different customers, but adjacent problems of your core customers
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15:10 - Visionary, evolutionary and expansionary approaches to solving customer workflows
19:38 - The scope of best-in-breed solutions 
21:58 - Key takeaways
22:40 - The art is in identifying the 20% pains that impact 80% of the outcome
26:20 - The philosophy goes beyond software platforms

➡️ The Modern SaaS Podcast
Take a look at our other podcast episodes - https://www.avoma.com/podcast

➡️ Related resource
https://www.avoma.com/playbooks-category/sales-playbook</itunes:subtitle>
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➡️ Key Points⁣ covered

00:00 - Intro
01:35 - Questions to ask yourself before you are ready to invest on a SaaS tool
03:57 - What makes or breaks the buying experience
06:30 - The need to understand the buyer's maturity stage
08:05 - How to design a relevant inbound buying experience
12:18 - What makes someone shortlist a software among the choices available
15:06 - Little annoyances build up and compound as a bad buying experience
19:30 - Why it makes a lot of sense to give a glimpse of the product during discovery
21:20 - The stage that a seller thinks a buyer is in, and what the buyer thinks is usually different
25:24 - How you sell is how you win
28:30 - Tackling competitive positioning with proof
30:49 - Key pillars of a buyer experience

➡️ The Modern SaaS Podcast
Take a look at our other podcast episodes - https://www.avoma.com/podcast

➡️ Related resource
https://www.avoma.com/playbooks-category/sales-playbook
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➡️ Key Points⁣ covered

00:00 - Intro
01:35 - Questions to ask yourself before you are ready to invest on a SaaS tool
03:57 - What makes or breaks the buying experience
06:30 - The need to understand the buyer&apos;s maturity stage
08:05 - How to design a relevant inbound buying experience
12:18 - What makes someone shortlist a software among the choices available
15:06 - Little annoyances build up and compound as a bad buying experience
19:30 - Why it makes a lot of sense to give a glimpse of the product during discovery
21:20 - The stage that a seller thinks a buyer is in, and what the buyer thinks is usually different
25:24 - How you sell is how you win
28:30 - Tackling competitive positioning with proof
30:49 - Key pillars of a buyer experience

➡️ The Modern SaaS Podcast
Take a look at our other podcast episodes - https://www.avoma.com/podcast

➡️ Related resource
https://www.avoma.com/playbooks-category/sales-playbook</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, Carl Ferreira (VP Sales, Refine Labs) and Yaag discuss how businesses buy software, how sales reps and the entire buying experience needs to adapt according to buyers in different maturity stages, and a lot more.

➡️ Key Points⁣ covered

00:00 - Intro
01:35 - Questions to ask yourself before you are ready to invest on a SaaS tool
03:57 - What makes or breaks the buying experience
06:30 - The need to understand the buyer&apos;s maturity stage
08:05 - How to design a relevant inbound buying experience
12:18 - What makes someone shortlist a software among the choices available
15:06 - Little annoyances build up and compound as a bad buying experience
19:30 - Why it makes a lot of sense to give a glimpse of the product during discovery
21:20 - The stage that a seller thinks a buyer is in, and what the buyer thinks is usually different
25:24 - How you sell is how you win
28:30 - Tackling competitive positioning with proof
30:49 - Key pillars of a buyer experience

➡️ The Modern SaaS Podcast
Take a look at our other podcast episodes - https://www.avoma.com/podcast

➡️ Related resource
https://www.avoma.com/playbooks-category/sales-playbook</itunes:subtitle>
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➡️ Key Points⁣ covered

00:00 - Intro
01:30 - The modern way of running a pipeline review
03:10 - Pipeline reviews are not just about metrics
05:10 - The need to prioritize inputs over outcomes
07:11 - Encouraging the right habits contributing to buyer experience
10:40 - The difference between transactional and enterprise deals
11:51 - Create. Advance. Close Model
17:23 - Controlling the overall narrative
24:55 - Key takeaways
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      <itunes:summary>In this episode, Nathan Hymas (VP Sales, Avoma) and Yaag discuss how to run pipeline reviews effectively by truly understanding what matters. Nate shares some brilliant perspectives on how pipeline reviews aren&apos;t just about metrics, how inputs matter more than outcomes, and a lot more.

➡️ Key Points⁣ covered

00:00 - Intro
01:30 - The modern way of running a pipeline review
03:10 - Pipeline reviews are not just about metrics
05:10 - The need to prioritize inputs over outcomes
07:11 - Encouraging the right habits contributing to buyer experience
10:40 - The difference between transactional and enterprise deals
11:51 - Create. Advance. Close Model
17:23 - Controlling the overall narrative
24:55 - Key takeaways</itunes:summary>
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➡️ Key Points⁣ covered

00:00 - Intro
01:30 - The modern way of running a pipeline review
03:10 - Pipeline reviews are not just about metrics
05:10 - The need to prioritize inputs over outcomes
07:11 - Encouraging the right habits contributing to buyer experience
10:40 - The difference between transactional and enterprise deals
11:51 - Create. Advance. Close Model
17:23 - Controlling the overall narrative
24:55 - Key takeaways</itunes:subtitle>
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➡️ Key Points⁣ covered

00:00 - Intro
00:50 - The components of a sales discovery and demo conversation
01:58 - How to do small talk without being lazy about it
07:45 - Doing discovery -- who should do it & how to do it meaningfully
09:35 - Need to have discovery and demo in the same meeting
11:45 - The concept of SPIN Selling
15:11 - The true purpose of a demo
21:23 - Handling objections by truly understanding the customer
28:40 - Agreeing on the next steps after discovery & demo
34:25 - Establishing the key differentiation & value proposition
35:50 - Need to sum up the key takeaways from the conversation
41: 12 - Key takeaways
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      <author>aditya@avoma.com (Aditya Kothadiya, Yaagneshwaran Ganesh)</author>
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      <itunes:summary>In this episode, Aditya and Yaag discuss how to improve the sales discovery and demo experience for your prospects by truly understanding their buyer journey and pain points.  Aditya throws light into 4 key aspects of a sales discovery and demo conversation including: small talk, questions to ask during discovery, how to personalize and make the demo valuable to the prospect, agreeing upon the next steps, and a lot more.

➡️ Key Points⁣ covered

00:00 - Intro
00:50 - The components of a sales discovery and demo conversation
01:58 - How to do small talk without being lazy about it
07:45 - Doing discovery -- who should do it &amp; how to do it meaningfully
09:35 - Need to have discovery and demo in the same meeting
11:45 - The concept of SPIN Selling
15:11 - The true purpose of a demo
21:23 - Handling objections by truly understanding the customer
28:40 - Agreeing on the next steps after discovery &amp; demo
34:25 - Establishing the key differentiation &amp; value proposition
35:50 - Need to sum up the key takeaways from the conversation
41: 12 - Key takeaways</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, Aditya and Yaag discuss how to improve the sales discovery and demo experience for your prospects by truly understanding their buyer journey and pain points.  Aditya throws light into 4 key aspects of a sales discovery and demo conversation including: small talk, questions to ask during discovery, how to personalize and make the demo valuable to the prospect, agreeing upon the next steps, and a lot more.

➡️ Key Points⁣ covered

00:00 - Intro
00:50 - The components of a sales discovery and demo conversation
01:58 - How to do small talk without being lazy about it
07:45 - Doing discovery -- who should do it &amp; how to do it meaningfully
09:35 - Need to have discovery and demo in the same meeting
11:45 - The concept of SPIN Selling
15:11 - The true purpose of a demo
21:23 - Handling objections by truly understanding the customer
28:40 - Agreeing on the next steps after discovery &amp; demo
34:25 - Establishing the key differentiation &amp; value proposition
35:50 - Need to sum up the key takeaways from the conversation
41: 12 - Key takeaways</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[In this episode, Aditya (CEO, Avoma) and Mark Stagi (VP Customer Success, Avoma) discuss whether or not should you charge for customer success, the factors that go into deciding 'when to charge for customer success' and more.

➡️ Key Points⁣ covered

00:00 - Intro
00:50 - What goes into deciding whether or not should you charge for customer success
06:23 - Isn't offering customer success in the interest of the vendor?
07:59 - When does CS become worth paying for? And what's the value proposition?
13:46 - What CS services to provide out of the box, and what services can you monetize valuably?
18:24 - The role of sales enablement in empowering the customer
22:25 - How to bake CS services into pricing tiers offering value
27:20 - The need for listing the pricing line items clearly on the website
28:20 - Customer success - cost center vs growth engine
31:36 - Key takeaway: Keep it simple as much you can
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      <pubDate>Tue, 3 May 2022 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>aditya@avoma.com (Aditya Kothadiya, Mark Stagi)</author>
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      <itunes:author>Aditya Kothadiya, Mark Stagi</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In this episode, Aditya (CEO, Avoma) and Mark Stagi (VP Customer Success, Avoma) discuss whether or not should you charge for customer success, the factors that go into deciding &apos;when to charge for customer success&apos; and more.

➡️ Key Points⁣ covered

00:00 - Intro
00:50 - What goes into deciding whether or not should you charge for customer success
06:23 - Isn&apos;t offering customer success in the interest of the vendor?
07:59 - When does CS become worth paying for? And what&apos;s the value proposition?
13:46 - What CS services to provide out of the box, and what services can you monetize valuably?
18:24 - The role of sales enablement in empowering the customer
22:25 - How to bake CS services into pricing tiers offering value
27:20 - The need for listing the pricing line items clearly on the website
28:20 - Customer success - cost center vs growth engine
31:36 - Key takeaway: Keep it simple as much you can</itunes:summary>
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➡️ Key Points⁣ covered

00:00 - Intro
00:50 - What goes into deciding whether or not should you charge for customer success
06:23 - Isn&apos;t offering customer success in the interest of the vendor?
07:59 - When does CS become worth paying for? And what&apos;s the value proposition?
13:46 - What CS services to provide out of the box, and what services can you monetize valuably?
18:24 - The role of sales enablement in empowering the customer
22:25 - How to bake CS services into pricing tiers offering value
27:20 - The need for listing the pricing line items clearly on the website
28:20 - Customer success - cost center vs growth engine
31:36 - Key takeaway: Keep it simple as much you can</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[In this episode of The Modern SaaS Podcast, Aditya and Yaag discuss the thoughtful meeting scheduling habits modern SaaS companies can build to improve the buyer experience. They discuss the balance between optimizing for efficiency and customer experience. Some of the key points discussed in the episode include 
1. How to use meeting scheduling links more thoughtfully 
2. Sharing a clear meeting agenda & how to minimize no-shows 
3. The need to allow meeting participants to join the meeting and not make them wait until you join 
4. Offering the best experience in Scheduling, rescheduling meetings, including shifting ownership for meetings and a lot more...
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      <author>aditya@avoma.com (Aditya Kothadiya, Yaagneshwaran Ganesh)</author>
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      <itunes:summary>In this episode of The Modern SaaS Podcast, Aditya and Yaag discuss the thoughtful meeting scheduling habits modern SaaS companies can build to improve the buyer experience. They discuss the balance between optimizing for efficiency and customer experience. Some of the key points discussed in the episode include 
1. How to use meeting scheduling links more thoughtfully 
2. Sharing a clear meeting agenda &amp; how to minimize no-shows 
3. The need to allow meeting participants to join the meeting and not make them wait until you join 
4. Offering the best experience in Scheduling, rescheduling meetings, including shifting ownership for meetings and a lot more...</itunes:summary>
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1. How to use meeting scheduling links more thoughtfully 
2. Sharing a clear meeting agenda &amp; how to minimize no-shows 
3. The need to allow meeting participants to join the meeting and not make them wait until you join 
4. Offering the best experience in Scheduling, rescheduling meetings, including shifting ownership for meetings and a lot more...</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[In this episode of The Modern SaaS Podcast, Aditya and Yaag discuss Collaborative Selling -- how to win with a system of collaboration. They discuss how the old world view of collaborative selling focused only on collaboration with prospects and how 'team selling' focused only on the collaboration amongst internal teams. The key points discussed in the episode include: 
1. Talking to a prospect alone isn't selling, but there's a whole gamut of things that happen before, during, and after that conversation. 
2. How it takes a village to close a deal. 
3. Collaborating with prospects, peers, managers, leaders, and cross-functionally 
4. Collaborating with AI and Tools 
5. Building a system of collaboration (People, process, and tools), and a lot more...
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      <author>aditya@avoma.com (Aditya Kothadiya, Yaagneshwaran Ganesh)</author>
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1. Talking to a prospect alone isn&apos;t selling, but there&apos;s a whole gamut of things that happen before, during, and after that conversation. 
2. How it takes a village to close a deal. 
3. Collaborating with prospects, peers, managers, leaders, and cross-functionally 
4. Collaborating with AI and Tools 
5. Building a system of collaboration (People, process, and tools), and a lot more...</itunes:summary>
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1. Talking to a prospect alone isn&apos;t selling, but there&apos;s a whole gamut of things that happen before, during, and after that conversation. 
2. How it takes a village to close a deal. 
3. Collaborating with prospects, peers, managers, leaders, and cross-functionally 
4. Collaborating with AI and Tools 
5. Building a system of collaboration (People, process, and tools), and a lot more...</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[In this episode of The Modern SaaS Podcast, Aditya and Yaag discuss the myths around product-led growth in the SaaS world. The myths discussed include:
1. PLG is the most popular go-to-market motion
2. PLG products grow on their own without Marketing
3. PLG doesn't need a sales team
4. Buyers are entirely self-sufficient and want self-serve product experiences
5. The product team alone is responsible for the execution of the PLG strategy
6. PLG isn't for enterprise companies
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      <pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2022 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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3. PLG doesn&apos;t need a sales team
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1. Trying to meet the customer in person and attempting to remedy the situation 
2. Sharing churn insights with everyone in your company 
3. Validating churn data with existing customers 
4. Implementing the learnings to improve the experience of existing customers 
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1. Trying to meet the customer in person and attempting to remedy the situation 
2. Sharing churn insights with everyone in your company 
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They discuss a process to build predictability:
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They discuss some of the gimmicks often used in the SaaS world, such as:  

1. Forcing buyers for an annual commitment without offering monthly subscription options. 
2. Offering pay-for-what-you-use, but having a minimum threshold 
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1. Forcing buyers for an annual commitment without offering monthly subscription options. 
2. Offering pay-for-what-you-use, but having a minimum threshold 
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5. Charging Customer Success fee 
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They discuss some of the gimmicks often used in the SaaS world, such as:  

1. Forcing buyers for an annual commitment without offering monthly subscription options. 
2. Offering pay-for-what-you-use, but having a minimum threshold 
3. Charging for collaboration 
4. Charging Platform fees in addition to subscription fee 
5. Charging Customer Success fee 
6. Having minimum no. of seats as a requirement, and a lot more...</itunes:subtitle>
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They discuss six ways to improve the buyer experience:
1. Offering a rewarding trial experience
2. Making demo booking easy with easy calendar access
3. Offering sales assistance (in-addition to product-led nurturing) to reduce friction
4. Being upfront and transparent about pricing
5. Offering flexible pricing options
6. Shortening the sales cycle, and a lot more...
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2. Making demo booking easy with easy calendar access
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They discuss six ways to improve the buyer experience:
1. Offering a rewarding trial experience
2. Making demo booking easy with easy calendar access
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The discussion throw light on:
--> The collaboration pains when using a best-of-breed solution
--> Why is an all-in-one solution the preferred choice?
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--&gt; Why is an all-in-one solution the preferred choice?
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