But this isn’t just a post-mortem.

Fred and Doug turn the page to what comes next—what the Bulls’ new leadership must prioritize, which assets (if any) can anchor a rebuild, and whether there’s a realistic path back to relevance in the Eastern Conference. It’s an honest, unfiltered conversation that blends frustration, accountability, and a cautious sense of hope for what’s ahead.

If you’ve been riding through the highs and (mostly) lows of this era, this is the episode you’ve been waiting for.

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Episode 250 tips off with See Red Fred joining Waddle & Silvy on Thursday’s show.

⏱️ 3:30 – Fred and the Podfather dive into the idea of “Two Leagues” in today’s NBA — the teams truly trying to win vs. those clearly positioning for the future. The Chicago Bulls? Stuck in the middle… failing at both winning and tanking.

⏱️ 9:00 – The Podfather breaks down the three “acceptable” tanking paths the NBA has effectively created — and where the Bulls fit (or don’t).

⏱️ 21:28 – Doug unveils his entry into the Song Contest: “Play-In Parade” 🎶

⏱️ 24:27 – See Red Fred counters with his own masterpiece: “AKME” 🎤

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Walked in with the fourth pick and a lottery crew,
Two future all-stars and a clean cap too.
Then called Orlando like “I know what to do,”
Two firsts for Vooch and some bad salary too.

Built a mid three that can’t guard anybody,
Iso ball heroes and defense looking shoddy.
Pseudo stars for the billboard view,
A low ceiling strategy to make the Fan's woo.

Three long years of the same routine,
Blame Lonzo’s knee for everything.
Add Pat and Dalen, our draft pick busts
And when we trade, teams just fleece us

A.K. proudly leads the Play-In Parade,
Hang the banner, 9th place made!
Beat down by Miami again
No rebuild here, just secret extensions

Standing still as the window decays,
Then make a move when value’s gone away.
Empty speeches while the fans complain,
A.K. smiles and waves at his play-in parade

Held on to Coby and Ayo too long,
Just second round picks, the value was gone.
“No shortcuts here,” that’s the line he sells,
But every move is just mid as hell

When the Pelicans called with a franchise deal,
He passed for a project instead of taking the steal
Have a pile of cap room when free agency's iffy,
Trying to build the future around Josh Giddey.

Keep mediocre players instead of waive
When losing some games get the odds raised
Chasing meaningless wins in the month of March,
While the draft board’s loaded with future stars.

A.K. proudly leads the Play-In Parade,
Hang the banner, 9th place made!
Beat down by Miami again
No rebuild here, just secret extensions

Standing still as the window decays,
Then make a move when value’s gone away.
Empty speeches while the fans complain,
A.K. smiles and waves at his play-in parade

A.K. proudly leads the Play-In Parade,
Hang the banner, 9th place made!
Beat down by Miami again
No rebuild here, just secret extensions
 

Standing still as the window decays,
Then make a move when value’s gone away.
Empty speeches while the fans complain,
A.K. smiles and waves at his play-in parade

9th seed! 9th seed!
Hang the banner high!
9th seed! 9th seed!
That's playoffs, right?

9th seed! 9th seed!
Hang the banner high!
9th seed! 9th seed!
That's playoffs, right?

A.K. proudly leads the Play-In Parade,
Hang the banner, 9th place made!
Beat down by Miami again
No rebuild here, just secret extensions

Standing still as the window decays,
Then make a move when value’s gone away.
Empty speeches while the fans complain,
A.K. smiles and waves at his play-in parade

9th seed! 9th seed!
Hang the banner high!
9th seed! 9th seed!
That's playoffs, right?

9th seed! 9th seed!
Hang the banner high!
9th seed! 9th seed!
That's playoffs, right?

AKME by by See Red Fred.

AKME, AKME....When will those boos turn into cheers? AKME, AKME...We've been a play-in for years.  With no winning in the scores, Just more money for the Dorfs, You can't say I'm satisfied.  So AKME...AKME...Ain't it time that you resigned? AKME, you're dutiful yeah, but ain't it time we said goodbye? AKME, I can't stand it...We have one playoff win in five.  All your teams were never close, now the league thinks you're a dope. What goes on between your ears? AKME….AKME...Where will you lead us from here? (ooh-yeah…ohhh…See Red Fred’s so upset with you Why did you trade Ayo, all the pain will never go Doo-doo-doo, AKME don't you say to me, we just need continuity) It's like a sharp stick in your eye, but AKME, AKME...Patrick Williams makes me cry (yeah) You average one playoff win in five...with no winning in the scores, just more money for the Dorfs, you can't say we're satisfied.  But AKME, you've been a bit better lately. Some trades you made, they were alright. Ball for Okoro was an awesome move. But AKME, AKME...ain't it time that you resigned? AKME, AKME...We have one playoff win in five.  AKME, AKME...I can't say you didn't try.

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Show Summary 

Title: Still Running for Wins
Date: March 14, 2026
Hosts: See Red Fred & Doug Thonus

Show Opening

The episode begins with See Red Fred introducing the show on a cold mid-March day in Chicago, welcoming co-host Doug Thonus as the Big Red Bus rolls again.

Fred briefly notes:

The podcast is now officially part of the All-City Network.

Listener feedback has been very positive so far.

The hosts plan to increase fan engagement, including future mailbag segments.

Fred thanks listeners who send emails to seeredfred@gmail.com.
The hosts plan to introduce regular listener mailbag episodes every couple weeks.

Main Discussion Topic

Bulls West Coast Trip: Wins vs Draft Position

The first major segment centers on the Bulls’ recent wins over the Phoenix Suns and Golden State Warriors during their West Coast trip.

While many fans celebrated the victories, Fred strongly disagrees with the enthusiasm, arguing that these wins hurt the Bulls’ long-term future.

Fred’s Argument: Winning Now Hurts the Bulls

Fred explains his core frustration:

The Bulls are fighting for meaningless late-season wins

These wins reduce their chances of landing a top-four draft pick

A top-four pick is the best chance to add a true superstar

He emphasizes that:

Josh Giddey and Matas Buzelis both had excellent games.  However, their development could have happened even in losses.  Fred argues the Bulls should prioritize development while still losing games to protect lottery odds.

The Draft Odds Problem

Fred highlights the specific statistical consequences of winning:  If the Bulls finish with a better record than Milwaukee, their odds of a top-four pick could drop from:

~20% chance
to

~13% chance

That 7-percentage-point drop is the central issue driving his frustration.

Fred calls these victories:

“dumb, idiotic, meaningless March wins.”

Comparison to Memphis

Fred contrasts the Bulls with the Memphis Grizzlies, who he believes are clearly managing minutes to maximize lottery odds.

He argues Memphis is:

Limiting key players’ minutes

Prioritizing draft positioning

Meanwhile, the Bulls are:

Playing young stars 40+ minutes

Prioritizing wins over long-term strategy

Fred points specifically to the Golden State game, where both Giddey and Buzelis played more than 40 minutes.

He believes simply reducing their minutes slightly could have resulted in a loss while still allowing development.

The Future Core Debate

Fred lays out his vision for the Bulls’ future roster.

Current Core

He believes:

Josh Giddey

Matas Buzelis

are legitimate foundational pieces.

However, he views them as:

Potential #2 or #3 options

Not franchise-level superstars

Therefore the Bulls still need one true elite star.

The Target: A.J. Dybantsa

A player with true franchise-changing upside

Someone who could elevate the Bulls into championship contention

Fred argues a core of:

A.J. DeBonsa

Matas Buzelis

Josh Giddey

would give the Bulls the foundation of a serious contender.

But he stresses:

The only realistic path to DeBonsa is landing in the top four of the draft lottery.

Veteran Management Debate

The hosts briefly discuss the possibility of removing veterans like:

Collin Sexton

Anfernee Simons

Fred agrees with Doug that cutting them now would be a mistake.

Reasons include:

Damaging relationships with players and agents

Hurting the Bulls’ reputation with future free agents

Fred says the real mistake was not moving these players earlier.

Front Office Criticism

Fred predicts the current Bulls leadership will eventually be fired.

His reasoning:  The franchise has produced only one playoff win.  The team risks being stuck in “play-in purgatory”.  He warns the Bulls could remain permanently mediocre if they fail to maximize this draft opportunity.  Fred argues that a roster built only around Giddey and Buzelis might top out as:  A 50 win ceiling team at best.  Without the top-tier superstar needed to win a title

Closing Thoughts of the Segment

Fred reiterates his central point:  The Bulls should focus on maximizing draft odds, not chasing late-season wins.

He believes the current strategy sacrifices the chance to add a true franchise-altering player, which is far more valuable than winning games in March.

✅ Segment End Point:
This summary covers the first portion of the show up until the conversation transitions to Leonard Miller (22:00).

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2:00 — See Red Fred and Michael Walton II open with a candid discussion on whether Bulls fans should be concerned about Matas Buzelis’ development heading into Year 2.
5:30 — The debate shifts to role and fit: is Matas ultimately a true 3, a modern 4, or something in between?
8:36 — Ceiling talk: could a Giddey/Matas pairing surpass what the Bulls once envisioned with Lauri Markkanen and Zach LaVine?
13:30 — Front office accountability takes center stage as they question whether AKME should continue leading the organization.
17:37 — The episode wraps with a tough coaching conversation: should Billy Donovan remain the head coach moving forward? 🔴🚌

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11:00 The duo breaks down what Josh Giddey and Matas Buzelis realistically project to become.

22:00 Jaden Ivey Concerns 

28:00 Rob Dillingham Concerns

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0:00 — Would You Give Up Your Pinky Toe for a Title?
The ultimate fan sacrifice debate and what a championship would really mean for Bulls fans.

5:00 — Which New Guard Do You Keep?
Breaking down the new backcourt options and who actually fits the future.

10:00 — Were the Coby & Ayo Deals Really That Good?
Re-examining the contracts, value, and how they compare to league trends.

20:00 — Zach & Lauri vs. Giddey & Matas
Present vs. future core debate and which path gives Chicago a higher ceiling.

29:00 — Let’s Be Happy
A reset on the franchise outlook and reasons for optimism.

34:00 — Jalen Duren Discussion
Fit, impact, and what a move like this would signal about the Bulls’ direction.

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Part 2 will be up this weekend.  

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5:00 – Will Coby White Be Traded?
See Red Fred and Doug make a bet on whether or not he will be traded.

10:00 – Building Around Matas Buzelis and Josh Giddey
Is it a good idea?

15:55 – Nikola Vučević Trade Rumors
The Bulls Offer Vooch to Boston, and they say No.

19:30 – Possible Centers for Next Season
Surveying short-term and long-term options if the Bulls move on from Vooch.

26:00 – Bulls Trading for Giannis Antetokounmpo
Could the Chicago Bulls actually pull it off—and should they?

34:00 – Trading for Clint Capela
Is Capela a realistic, stabilizing option at center, and what would it cost?

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Segment 1: Coby White Trade Rumors (5:00)
We open the show by unpacking the latest buzz around potential trade scenarios involving Coby White. What’s real, what’s noise, and what would moving Coby say about where the Bulls think they are right now? We look at value, fit, timing, and whether these rumors reflect opportunistic listening or a more fundamental shift in direction.

Segment 2: Matas Buzelis Development Check-In (24:27)
The middle segment focuses on Matas Buzelis and his early development. While the upside and flashes are obvious, we zero in on his defensive struggles—positioning, awareness, and physicality—and talk through what’s normal for a young player adjusting to NBA speed versus what needs to improve quickly for him to earn consistent trust and minutes.

Segment 3: Vooch and the Warriors
We close by discussing the rumors around Vooch and the Warriors.   Is this about asset management, clearing developmental runway, or trying to recalibrate the roster without fully blowing it up? We debate the Bulls’ options—and the risks tied to each path.

A classic Big Red Bus episode: rumors, development, and plenty of Bulls reality checks along the way. 🟥🚌

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Fred and Doug break down what this means for a team already walking a tightrope between relevance and collapse. They discuss how the loss of both guards exposes the roster’s lack of direction — and how it magnifies the front office’s long-standing failures in roster construction and long-term planning.

The conversation also explores what this moment means for the future:
• Tank or Try for Spots 4-6 1:00
• What are the next steps with Coby? 18:00
• Matas Struggles 24:00

With frustration, honesty, and a little gallows humor, Fred and Doug unpack the reality Bulls fans don’t want to face — but can no longer ignore.

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In Episode 231 of the Big Red Bus, See Red Fred debuts the hit single “Bring Back Gar & Pax,” setting the tone with classic Bulls humor and satire. Fred also shares the unbelievable story of an incident involving Little People wrestlers that ultimately brought his music career to an end—an experience that became a memorable moment on the Waddle & Silvy Show.

The episode then rolls into Part Two of the interview with Joel Lorenzi, where the conversation turns to Bulls basketball in depth. Joel discusses some of his favorite players he has covered, along with a wide-ranging discussion on current and past Bulls topics, player development, and observations from his time covering the team.

A perfect blend of Bulls talk, storytelling, media moments, and Big Red Bus energy, Episode 231 delivers laughs, insight, and plenty for Bulls fans to chew on.

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1. Background & Chicago Roots
In Part 1, Joel takes listeners back to where it all began—growing up on the West Side of Chicago. .

2. Career Path & Early Success
Joel discusses his path toward winning the 2023 USBWA Rising Star Award, an honor that spotlighted him nationally as one of the most promising young journalists in the game. He breaks down what that recognition meant at this early stage and how it fueled his growth. We get into the realities of NBA reporting—what he thought the job would be versus what he’s learned on the ground

3. Covering the Oklahoma City Thunder
Before arriving at The Athletic, Joel spent two seasons on the Oklahoma City Thunder beat for The Oklahoman. He shares what surprised him most about covering OKC—whether it was the team’s culture, the city’s basketball intelligence, or the way the organization operates behind the scenes. Joel offers insight into what makes the Thunder one of the most intriguing franchises in the NBA.

4. Joel provides his insight on a potential AD trade..and provides reasons on why he is against the potential move.

Part 2 will dive deeper into the Bulls, the roster, the fanbase, and Joel’s early impressions of covering Chicago’s most beloved team.

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Episode Notes

In this episode, See Red Fred and the Podfather tackle the growing debate in Bulls Nation surrounding the team’s frontcourt defense and the misconceptions fueling it. Fred breaks down why some defenders keep drawing the toughest scoring assignments—Banchero, Lauri Markkanen, and other oversized, high-usage forwards—and why blaming Billy Donovan for those matchups completely misses the real issue. The truth is simple: Matas is not physically ready to guard NBA power forwards, and Giddey can’t defend point guards or shooting guards, leaving others to absorb those brutal matchups.

Fred details the specific physical challenges Matas faces right now—getting bumped off spots, losing box-outs, and being displaced by contact—and explains why these are normal development hurdles for a young forward entering the league. He emphasizes that Matas’ talent is real and his offensive flashes are legitimate, but a couple of highlight blocks don’t erase the 20-plus possessions where strength becomes a glaring problem.

The episode also explores why the Bulls struggle to close games with a Giddey–Vooch–Matas trio, outlining how their combined defensive limitations create a structural disadvantage that no coach can scheme around.

Ultimately, Fred reframes the conversation: this is not a coaching-mistake problem. It’s a roster-composition problem and a physical-development reality. Until the Bulls add more frontcourt physicality or Matas grows into his NBA body, Okoro will keep being the one tasked with holding the defensive line, even when the matchups look strange on paper.

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Episode Title: AKME Redemption: The Rise of the Red Leviathan

Hosts: See Red Fred & The Podfather, Doug Thonus

Summary:
See Red Fred and the Podfather Doug Thonus break down one of the most thrilling weeks in recent Bulls history — a miraculous comeback win that cements the Bulls as the #1 seed in the Eastern Conference. The guys argue that we’re witnessing the greatest front office turnaround in Chicago sports history, thanks to four franchise-changing moves that have completely reshaped the team’s identity.

Topics Covered:

• The Buzelis Draft Pick (June 2024, #11 Overall)
  Fred and Doug revisit the bold selection of Matas Buzelis — calling it an A+ pick that set the tone for everything that followed.

• The LaVine Trade
  The front office struck gold by trading Zach LaVine for Tre Jones, Kevin Huerter, and John Collins — plus their pick back. Fred praises each as rock-solid contributors, emphasizing that the Bulls gained three quality pieces and financial flexibility.

• The Okoro Trade
  Dubbed “the most underrated great move,” Isaac Okoro’s addition transformed the Bulls’ defense. Shooting 50-40-80 over his last five games, Okoro locked down Tyrese Maxey in crunch time — solidifying himself as the team’s best defender and a critical late-game stopper. Fred contrasts his production with Lonzo Ball’s multi-year absence and inefficiency, calling out the overreaction from fans who doubted the deal.

• The Giddey Trade and Extension
  A true win-win. Alex Caruso helped OKC capture a championship, while Josh Giddey — a misfit in OKC — has flourished in Chicago. At just 23 years old, Giddey is emerging as a bona fide All-Star and, according to Fred, even belongs in the early MVP conversation.

Closing Thoughts:
The Big Red Bus celebrates a Bulls team reborn — deeper, smarter, tougher, and finally built to contend. From a fanbase in despair to the top of the East, AKME Redemption is real, and the ride has only just begun.

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See Red Fred and the Podfather Doug Thonus return aboard The Big Red Bus to break down the meteoric rise of the Chicago Bulls — also known across the league as The Red Leviathan.

In this fiery episode, the duo unveils their Top 5 Reasons for the Rise of the Red Leviathan, exploring the chemistry, defensive intensity, and offensive evolution that have turned this team into an unstoppable Eastern Conference juggernaut. See Red Fred and a reborn See Red Doug dissect every factor fueling this undefeated run.

Expect sharp analysis, passionate debate, and a few classic See Red Fred proclamations as the Bulls continue their reign of dominance. Hop aboard. The Red Leviathan rolls on — and no one in the East is safe

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• 0:00 – Intro: See Red Fred Provides his thoughts on the Bulls' first 4 preseason games.

• 5:25 – The Bulls’ Best-Case Scenario: How good could the Bulls be in the weak East?

• 13:17 – Would you Trade Matas for Giannis? 

• 18:00 Can Coby Be that Guy?

• 22:00 Is Your Fifth Starter? With the core four looking sharp, Fred and Joe debate who deserves that final starting spot — balancing chemistry, defense, and long-term development.

Expect candid insights, laughter, and a dose of classic Big Red Bus optimism (and realism) as Fred and Joe navigate what could be a pivotal year for Bulls basketball.

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Hello again, everybody — welcome aboard another exciting edition of The Big Red Bus!

In Episode 221, See Red Fred sits down with one of the most respected voices in basketball media — Bruce Bernstein. A longtime NBA media executive, producer, and podcast host, Bruce spent over 30 years at ESPN, where he was an Emmy Award–winning producer behind iconic shows like NBA Today, NBA Coast to Coast, and NBA Tonight.

Since leaving ESPN in 2017, Bruce has become a driving force in independent basketball media. As Chief Content Officer at Pure Hoops Media, he co-created and produced over 1,000 podcasts, helping shape the modern landscape of hoops storytelling. Today, he’s the producer and co-host of the “48 Minutes” Podcast on the BLEAV Network, continuing his mission to elevate thoughtful basketball conversation.

In this in-depth interview, Fred and Bruce discuss:

🎬 Bruce's Career: You’ve had a legendary career in NBA media — from ESPN to 48 Minutes and Pure Hoops. When you look back, what’s the most memorable NBA storyline or player interview you’ve ever been part of producing? 1:30

🏀 Growing up as a fan, what teams did you support when you were younger? How did that early fandom shape your perspective as a producer and commentator later in your career? 8:00

🌎 ESPN Voices: You’ve worked closely with so many former players and coaches. Which voices do you think fans underestimate, and which ones surprised you the most once you got to know them behind the scenes? 9:30

From your time producing shows like NBA Tonight at ESPN, what’s the biggest change you’ve seen in how the NBA is covered — and how fans consume that coverage? 13:30

Globalization of the Game: The NBA is now such a global game. As someone who has seen that transformation firsthand, what’s the biggest benefit — and maybe the biggest challenge — that globalization brings to the league? 19:11

🔴 Bulls Talk: Bruce’s outside perspective on the Chicago Bulls, reflections on the 90s dynasty, and whether today’s front office has what it takes to rise again. 20:00

It’s a thoughtful, behind-the-scenes look at the NBA through the eyes of one of its most accomplished storytellers.

Plus, coming soon:

• A brand-new interview with Joe Cowley of the Chicago Sun-Times (dropping late Saturday or Sunday).

• And early next week, Fred and Doug Thonus return to the Bus to break down the Bulls’ preseason with a very special guest.

🎧 Hop aboard and enjoy this ride with the great Bruce Bernstein — only on The Big Red Bus.

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1:00 – CHGO Bulls Rocks: Preseason insights and standout performances

5:00 – Taking Charge: See Red Fred & the Podfather disagree on the art of taking charges.

9:00 – Paint Protection:  Zach Collins & his Role

15:00 – Vooch: What is the future for our starting C

25:00 – The Press Conference Highlights: Fred and Doug field questions on P-Will, Coby, and the Bulls’ identity

30:00 – Patrick Williams Talk

36:00 – Who Should Start at the 3?: A spirited debate over lineup balance, shooting, and defensive assignment

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In this episode of the Big Red Bus, See Red Fred and the Podfather Doug Thonus steer the conversation through bologna and hoops history. The show kicks off an unlikely detour into the world of bologna sandwiches, before Doug jumps behind the wheel for a rousing round of “Guess the Win Total”—this time with the 1981–82 Detroit Pistons roster.

The duo then turns their attention to the present, debating the most captivating Chicago Bulls storylines heading into the season—beyond the obvious intrigue around Coby White and Josh Giddey. From player development questions to roster dynamics, Fred and Doug break down what fans should really keep their eyes on.

Hop aboard the Big Red Bus for Bulls talk that only this dynamic duo can deliver. Follow See Red Fred on X: @cbefred Email the show: SeeRedFred@gmail.com

Listen to the full "Big Red Bus" Theme song here: https://open.spotify.com/artist/1niqZrLq8HKkagzbbHQftJ?si=GYe9Cez8Re6s8pw4YdzuqQ

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See Red Fred is joined once again by the Podfather, Doug Thonus, for a ride filled with history and hard truths.

🏀 Protect Yourself at All Times – The guys kick things off with a shocking deep dive into the astounding lack of cup usage across the NBA and other sports. Is it toughness, tradition, or just plain crazy?

📊 Guess the Wins – Fred challenges Doug to “Guess the Wins” for the 1983-84 Portland Trail Blazers. Can Doug nail the number, or will history throw him off course?

🔑 The Bulls’ Magic Number – They close the show with Doug’s big take on the exact figure the Bulls must put on the table to make Josh Giddey's decision a no-brainer.

Another classic episode blending humor, trivia, and sharp Bulls analysis – buckle up and hop on the Bus!

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In this engaging episode of 'The Big Red Bus,' the hosts dive into a lively discussion about NBA shooting guards, particularly Coby White's ranking, while intertwining humor and nostalgia about past basketball legends. Through playful banter and trivia, they explore the dynamics of player evaluations and the evolving landscape of the NBA.

"The only rankings I take seriously are my own and yours." - See Red Fred

"I think he's a three-pointer away from being one of the top five players in the NBA." - See Red Fred on Amen Thompson

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#nbashootingguardrankings #cobywhiteplayerevaluation #chicagobullshistory #basketballtriviaandhumor #nbaplayercomparisons

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In Episode 213 of the Big Red Bus, See Red Fred and Doug discuss the last show, the Alex Caruso trade (again), the ongoing Josh Giddey negotiations, and the Bulls’ bleak placement at #11 in ESPN’s rebuild rankings by Tim Bontemps. They also react to the Billy Donovan extension and debate whether the Bulls will go over or under their Vegas-projected 32.5 wins.

📝 Time Stamps

0:00 – Doug’s Mad at Mark / The Caruso Trade Debate (again)                                                  16:30 – Josh Giddey Negotiations
22:22 – No Sign-and-Trades                                                                                                  31:00 – Billy Donovan Extension
32:50 – Vegas Win Totals: 32.5 for the Bulls
45:00 – Tim Bontemps’ ESPN Article: Rebuild Rankings
55:00 – Get an Actual Bus?

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• Intro – Coldplay Concert & Iconic Images

• 3:30 – Pleading to the 5%

• 5:15 – Josh Giddey

• 9:45 – AKME Improvements

• 17:00 – Yuki Mania

• 21:00 – The Trajectory of the Team
  Where is this Bulls team really headed? A sobering analysis of direction, ambition, and expectations.

• 35:00 – AKME’s Five Biggest Mistakes
  Mark provides his analysis on the five most damaging moves made by the front office, with context, accountability, and passion.

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Segment 1: Bulls Summer League Breakdown (00:00 - 07:00)
Fred opens with a passionate rant about the Bulls’ first two Summer League games — calling them a “calamitous disaster.” He critiques the lack of shooting, questionable roster construction, and missed opportunities for player development.

Segment 2: Interview with Coach Lafayette Bell (07:00 - End)
A wide-ranging and insightful conversation with one of the most respected voices in AAU basketball.

Topics Covered:

1. Coach Bell’s Basketball Journey
   – How he got started in the game
   – His transition into coaching
   – What led him to work with FAST

2. Coaching Philosophy & Style
   – His approach to player development on and off the court
   – Emphasis on fundamentals, accountability, and mental toughness

3. What Makes FAST Special
   – How the program develops young athletes for life beyond basketball
   – Success stories and how they define growth

4. The State of AAU Today
   – Myths and realities of AAU basketball
   – Balancing competition, exposure, and development
   – The pressures from parents, scouts, and social media

5. NIL’s Impact at the Grassroots Level
   – Whether NIL conversations are reaching youth athletes
   – How families are shifting expectations
   – The challenge of keeping players grounded amid outside noise

6. College Recruiting & Coach Involvement
   – How the recruiting landscape has changed in the last 5–10 years
   – The growing importance of AAU coaches in the process
   – Advice for families navigating the world of scholarships and offers

7. Player Development & Character Building
   – Why character, commitment, and resilience still matter most
   – Stories of players who exemplified the FAST culture
   – How to build leaders through basketball

🔴 Final Takeaway:
Coach Bell pulls no punches in discussing both the promise and pitfalls of AAU basketball, sharing wisdom for players, parents, and coaches alike. A must-listen for anyone who cares about youth hoops and the future of the game.

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 Big Red Bus – Episode Title: “Interview with Betsey Cashmoney”

Episode Summary:
See Red Fred welcomes Bulls Twitter legend Betsey Cashmoney onto the Big Red Bus to break down the seismic Desmond Bane trade, debate the Magic and Bulls' place in the Eastern Conference hierarchy, critique the AKME regime, and make a heartfelt case for why Patrick Williams still matters. Smart cap analysis, honest Bulls takes, and classic Big Red Bus energy all packed into one episode.

 Show Topics & Timestamps

Desmond Bane Trade Breakdown (3:00)

Is Orlando Better Than....? (4:15)
Fred and Betsey debate Orlando’s current trajectory.

The Durant Trade 10:00

AKME's Worst Moves (29:00)

Betsey Makes the Case for PWill (32:00)

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Episode Notes:

Hop aboard The Big Red Bus with See Red Fred and the Podfather Doug Thonus as they navigate the latest turns in the NBA landscape and assess what it all means for the Chicago Bulls.

00:00 – Intro and Banter
Fred and Doug kick things off with their trademark back-and-forth, setting the stage for a loaded episode.

05:00 – NBA Finals Analysis
The duo dives into the intensity and execution of the NBA Finals, spotlighting what the elite teams are doing right—and what it says about how far the Bulls are from joining the conversation. Fred shares a sobering take on Chicago’s place in the league hierarchy.

08:30 – Indiana Pacers Roster & Salary Breakdown
Fred and Doug do a deep dive into the Pacers’ young, flexible roster and favorable cap situation. They compare Indiana’s trajectory to the Bulls', discussing what a smart rebuild looks like and what Chicago can learn.

23:00 – Should the Bulls Move Forward with Nikola Vučević?
Fred raises the crucial offseason question: Is it time to move on from Vooch? They weigh his value, contract, and fit in today’s game while considering realistic trade scenarios or internal replacements.

28:40 – Cedric Coward Scouting Report
Fred closes the show with an in-depth look at draft prospect Cedric Coward. Listeners get insight into Coward’s strengths, style of play, and how he might complement the Bulls’ roster if targeted in the draft.

Closing Thoughts
This episode offers clarity, tough love, and a path forward—making it essential listening for any Bulls fan hoping to make sense of where the team stands and where it should go next.

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🔊 Episode Overview:

This episode of The Big Red Bus kicks off with See Red Fred sharing his latest thoughts on the Indiana Pacers’ impressive postseason run and the firing of Tom Thibodeau by the New York Knicks.

From there, we pivot to a heartfelt and insightful conversation with professional basketball player Lacey James, whose story of perseverance, growth, and purpose resonates far beyond the hardwood.

👤 Guest Bio: Lacey James

• Hometown: Grand Rapids, Michigan

• Height/Position: 6'9", Center

• College: Rider University (Freshman Year), then transferred to Northern Illinois University (2017–2020)

  • Senior year: 10 double-doubles

• Professional Career:

  • Played internationally for the Surrey Scorchers (UK)

  • G League stints with:

    • Windy City Bulls

    • Motor City Cruise

    • Texas Legends

    • Raptors 905 (2024–25)

Lacey is known for his high motor, strong rebounding, and defensive presence, but he’s equally respected for his character, humility, and faith.

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Hop on the Bus as See Red Fred and the Podfather Doug Thonus welcome the legendary Big Dave Watson from CHGO for a jam-packed episode of Bulls banter, weather warnings, and front office fire.

📰 News & Weather Talk — Only on the Big Red Bus will you get a breakdown of Bulls basketball and a brief discussion on Chicago local news broadcasts.

⏰ 6:00 mark — “What do you want to pay Josh Giddey?”
See Red Fred, Doug and Big Dave dig into the Giddey gamble: what he's worth now, what he could be worth later, and if the Bulls should go all-in or hedge their bet.

⏰ 22:00 mark — “What are the biggest mistakes or missed opportunities by AKME over the past 5 years?”
No punches pulled. The Bus unloads on the Bulls' front office, breaking down questionable signings, trades that never happened, and a general lack of a coherent long-term vision.

👉 Buckle up, Bulls Nation. It's a wild ride you won't want to miss.
Subscribe, rate, and review — and as always.

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The show starts with a detour, as See Red Fred launches into a spirited critique of the repetitive Liberty Mutual commercial that seems to plague every timeout during the NBA Conference Finals. Fred can’t believe anyone can endure it.

Things escalate when Fred uncovers Doug’s shocking ignorance of ABC7 meteorologist Cheryl Scott. That revelation leads to a debate about whether anyone still watches the evening news for weather updates in 2025 or if that habit has gone the way of VHS tapes and payphones.

This episode blends Bulls talk, media culture, and some classic See Red tangents you won't want to miss.

Timestamps:

• Collin Murray-Boyles discussion begins: 20:00

• Derik Queen discussion begins: 28:50

Collin Murray-Boyles – Scouting Snapshot

• Games: 32

• Minutes Per Game: 30.6

• Points Per Game: 16.8

• Rebounds Per Game: 8.3

• Assists Per Game: 2.4

• Steals Per Game: 1.5

• Blocks Per Game: 1.3

• Turnovers Per Game: 2.4

Shooting Percentages:

• Field Goal: 58.6% (6.2/10.6)

• 3-Point: 26.5% (0.3/1.1)

• Free Throw: 70.7% (4.2/5.9)

Advanced Metrics:

• Box Plus-Minus (BPM): 11.1

• True Shooting % (TS%): 63.0

• Net Rating Differential: +18.3

• Block %: 4.7

• At Rim FG %: 66.9%

Physical Measurements:

• Height: 6’7”

• Weight: 245 lbs

• Wingspan: 7’0”

• Date of Birth: 6/10/2005

Hop on the bus and ride along for all the analysis, laughs, and rants you’ve come to love from The Big Red Bus.

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🎙 Episode Title: The Big Red Bus & The Big Red Twelve – NBA Draft Lottery Reaction

🚍 Hosted by: See Red Fred (@cbefred) & The Podfather Doug Thonus

📅 Episode Overview:
See Red Fred and the Podfather Doug Thonus dive deep into the aftermath of the 2025 NBA Draft Lottery. With the Chicago Bulls landing the 12th pick, the duo discusses the implications for the franchise, how this impacts the team’s rebuilding timeline. Expect passionate reactions, historical context, and thoughtful insights—everything Bulls fans have come to love from the Big Red Bus.

📌 Topics Covered:

• Initial reactions to the Bulls securing the 12th pick

• What it means for the front office moving forward

• What Bulls fans should realistically expect

• Why this could be a pivotal offseason for the franchise

📬 Mailbag Questions Welcome!
For our upcoming Big Red Mailbag episode, send your questions, trade ideas, draft takes, or Bulls therapy sessions to: seeredfred@gmail.com

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🎧 Listen & Subscribe:
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The duo also dives into a critical debate: Which current Bulls players could realistically be rotation players on a championship-caliber team? With the long-term outlook in mind, Fred and Doug assess whether the recent success is sustainable or if the Bulls should shift gears and fully embrace a rebuild leading into 2026.

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Hosted by See Red Fred & the Podfather, Doug Thonus: Hop aboard as Fred and Doug steer the Big Red Bus into Play-In territory, breaking down the biggest surprises of the 2024-25 regular season for your Beloved Bulls.

It’s candid, passionate, and vintage Bulls banter from two of the most knowledgeable voices in Bulls Nation.

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Strap in and hop aboard the Big Red Bus as See Red Fred and the Podfather Doug Thonus relive one of the most electric finishes in Bulls history—a jaw-dropping 12-second flurry where the Bulls poured in 9 points to shock the Lakers and ignite the United Center.

Fred continues his passionate campaign for Coby White, breaking down the clutch gene, leadership, and rising stardom of the Bulls’ breakout guard. The duo also dives deep into the long-term outlook for the Bulls backcourt, examining the contract futures of both Coby White and Josh Giddey, and what it means for the team's core moving forward.

This episode is full of passion, analysis, and vintage See Red moments—don’t miss it!

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But the real headliner? The remarkable 9-game stretch from Josh Giddey...See Red Fred and Doug dive into what his surge means for the league, his future trajectory, and the broader impact on the Bulls' future.

Buckle up for another in-depth, no-holds-barred episode of the Big Red Bus! 🚨🔥

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Recorded on Sunday—before reality hit hard—the Bulls were fresh off a rare win against Toronto. Since then? Two straight losses, including a 139-117 blowout to Cleveland. That makes them 2-9 in their last 11 games… yet somehow, they’ve increased their lead on the 10th seed. Unbelievable.

In this episode, See Red Fred and Doug Thonus break it all down:
🏀 The strong play of Zach Collins
📊 A deep dive into the plus-minus statistic
💰 What Josh Giddey’s next contract might look like

Buckle up and hop aboard for another ride on the Big Red Bus! 🎧🔴

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In this episode of The Big Red Bus, See Red Fred and the Podfather Doug Thonus roll into the All-Star break with a sense of frustration and disappointment. The duo dives into the Zach trade and the Bulls' relative inactivity at the trade deadline, questioning the front office’s decisions with a roster that appears stuck in neutral.

Fred and Doug break down what this means for the franchise moving forward, analyzing the missed opportunities to embrace a full rebuild. Should fans hold out hope for a post-deadline surge, or is this just another sign that mediocrity remains the organization’s comfort zone?

Join the ride as the guys vent their frustrations, examine potential long-term consequences, and discuss what needs to change for the Bulls to break free from their cycle of inconsistency.

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Note: An brief 5-minute introduction with Fred and Doug was recorded after the Zach LaVine trade, to provide some brief commentary and thoughts on the next steps.

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Description: Hop on the Big Red Bus as we break down the current state of the Chicago Bulls. In this episode:

• State of the Bulls (1:00): Stuck in the middle
• Trade Talk: Zach and Vooch (22:45): Can the Bulls realistically trade Zach LaVine and Nikola Vučević? Who holds the most trade value on this roster, and what could a trade bring in return?
• Matas Mania (28:41): A closer look at the intriguing talent of Matas Buzelis and his potential impact on the Bulls' future.
• Josh Giddey’s Path Forward (32:00): Could Josh Giddey be a blueprint or even part of the Bulls’ future plans? We explore his on-court fit and what he could mean for the team's trajectory.
• Comparisons between the Bulls and Bears front office.
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Get ready for in-depth analysis, hot takes, and everything you need to stay updated on all things Bulls. Don’t miss this jam-packed episode!

🎧 Tune in now and let us know your thoughts!

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In this episode of The Big Red Bus, hosts See Red Fred and Doug Thonus dive into the current state of the Chicago Bulls, a team that has proven to be somewhat surprising this season. The duo discusses various players and their performances, including deep dives into the development and potential of key young talents.

Segments in this episode focus on:

• Patrick Williams: PWill is injured again.
• Matas Buzelis: With Buzelis emerging as a promising prospect, Fred and Doug explore his game and potential fit with the Bulls moving forward.
• Dalen Terry: The conversation shifts to Terry’s development and how he can contribute to the team in the long run.
• Josh Giddey: The episode also features a discussion on Giddey’s performance and his potential to make an impact, either with the Bulls or in the broader league context.

Tune in for an engaging breakdown of the Bulls' evolving roster and a closer look at the exciting young talent shaping the future of the team.

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Both hosts offer their thoughts on the team trajectory and ponder the realistic expectations for this season.

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Storytime: See Red Fred describes an incident that occurred before a battle with Little People Wrestlers. It was discussed at a wedding last Sunday. Memories about a past performance incident involving sound checks and a confrontation with a fan were forgotten.

• Incident Details:

  • Sound Check: SRF played "Californication" by Red Hot Chili Peppers during sound checks to set levels.
  • Fan Confrontation:

• Relevance to Current Season:

  • Comparison between past performance struggles and the current team rebuild.
  • Emphasizes the emotional and mental challenges of team rebuilding periods.

• Doug Thonus Full Rebuild vs. Controlled Dip:

  • Full Rebuild Approach:

    • Strategy: Trade valuable players to accumulate multiple first-round draft picks.
    • Historical Reference:
    • Pros and Cons:

  • Controlled Dip Approach:

    • Strategy: Slight reduction in wins to integrate young players without over-committing to a full rebuild.
    • Pros and Cons:

• Analytical Views:

  • Both strategies have low probabilities of success due to reliance on multiple factors aligning, including player development and draft luck.
  • Execution by the front office is critical but currently lacking confidence.

• Current Front Office Evaluation:

  • Front office lacks the vision and execution capability to implement successful rebuilding strategies.
  • Decisions appear reactionary rather than planned and strategic.

• Key Players Discussed:

  • Vooch:

    • Criticized for being overpaid relative to his performance.
    • Contract extension viewed negatively due to maintenance of high salary without correspondingly high performance.

  • DeMar DeRozan:

    • Recent trade criticized as a poor fit for the team’s strategy.

  • Patrick Williams:

    • Signed to a contract that appears unfavorable compared to peers.
    • Injured, impacting his readiness for the season.

  • Torrey Craig:

    • Signed via a player option, maintaining team’s ability to compete.
    • Balancing veteran presence with developing young talent.

  • Josh Giddey:

    • Discussed extensively regarding potential and contract expectations.
    • Debate on fair market value and role within the team.

• Contract Negotiations:

  • Josh Giddey:

    • See Red Fred & Doug Thonus discuss his appropriate salary based on performance.
    • Agreement on a ceiling of around $20 million annually.
    • Concerns about overpaying if performance doesn’t meet expectations.

  • Patrick Williams:

    • Concerns about the timing and terms of his contract given injury history.

• Josh Giddey:

  • Strengths:

    • Excellent rebounder and passer.
    • Potential to develop into a significant playmaker with strength improvements.

  • Weaknesses:

    • Currently lacks strength necessary to maximize potential in the paint.
    • Inconsistent efficiency and defensive capabilities.

  • Contract Discussion:

    • Suggested market value around $20 million.
    • Risks associated with overpaying without guaranteed performance improvement.

• Rebranding Concepts:

  • "Fun Bad":

    • Acknowledges the team's entertaining but subpar performance.
    • Emphasizes young players show growth with a focus on entertaining play.

  • "Fun Mediocre" or "Fun Average":

    • Alternative branding ideas reflecting the team's balanced outlook between competition and entertainment.

• Team Expectations:

  • Performance Goals:

    • Likely outcome cited as around 30-win season.
    • Possibility of being a "fun bad" or "fun mediocre" team with moments of excitement.

  • Player Development:

    • Focus on developing young talent like Josh Giddey.
    • Potential for entertaining playstyles contributing to highlight-worthy moments.

• Final Sentiments:

  • Optimism about the team being more enjoyable to watch despite challenges.
  • Encouragement for listeners to continue supporting and following team developments.

• Listener Engagement:

  • Encourage listeners to leave positive reviews on iTunes and Amazon.

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• McD vs Burger King vs Wendy's
• Lonzo Ball is Playing 5 on 5
• Who Will Be left out of the rotation
• The Top 5 NBA Players
• Some WNBA Talk

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Episode Breakdown:

• 1:00 Maximum Matas
• 10:00 Julian Phillips
• 12:40 Go Go Sanogo
• 16:15 Doug Loves Drell, Less so for Funk
• 19:00 Where Do the Bulls Rank in the East?
• 35:00 AKME Speaks

Tune in for in-depth analysis and passionate discussion on all things Bulls!

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• What would you do if you were put in charge of the Bulls today? What do you think the Bulls will do?
• What do you think the PWill / DeMar contracts will will look like if they return? How will we avoid the tax if they return?
• Is there hope for Dalen Terry-Bull and The Great Recruiter?
• Thoughts on the MarkK Retirement

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Poll results for LBJ to the Bulls 1:00

Playoff Talk 12:00

Who would want Zach LaVine? 22:00

Bears Talk 34:00

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Kevin’s Biggest Disappointments Regarding this Bulls' Season 2:00

Vucevic 11:19

DeMar’s Future 12:30

Ranking the Chicago Fanbase Excitment 40:00

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March 25  2024

See Red Fred and the Podfather Doug Thonus discuss the Bulls' Loss to the Celtics, a review of their Buzzsaw schedule, and the future of DeMar DeRozan. 

Bulls Celtics 1:00

Less Fouls are Being Called…does it help or hurt the Bulls? 6:30

Buzzsaw Schedule Review 12:30

2009 Similarities? 17:00

DeMar’s Future 34

Dalen Terry 40

Javonte Green is Back 47

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1:00 The Buzzsaw Schedule Stretch Update (A Pistons L, a Cavs W)

7:20 High Character Individuals on the Team

12:00 The Milwaukee Meltdown

14:00 PatBev 

24:00 Bitim 

28:00 Will He Be Back? 

45:00 Vucevic Shots

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See Red Fred @cbefred and the Podfather Doug Thonus @Doug_Thonus discuss the future of Patrick Williams, DeMar DeRozan, and Zach Lavine.

1:00 The Return of Ryan A 

4:00 The Buzzsaw Schedule 

9:00 Is AKME Gone If We Finish 11th or Worse?

11:45 Prophetic Robes: We Will Finish 9th.  What Happens This Summer?

22:00 DeMar DeRozan 

28:00 Zach LaVine…Would you give up an asset to remove him from the roster?

44:00 Darnell Mayberry Article

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• Overall Thoughts on the Bulls Preseason 1:02 
• Patrick Williams 6:00 
• Likes and Dislikes for the Preseason 16:00 
• Julian Phillips 23:00
• Predictions 25:00

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Why sing "Zombie" on a Cruise Ship? 1:00

Ayo is Back! 12:00

Bittum & JFL 20:00

The Future of DeMar with the Bulls 30:00

DeMar’s Departure? 44:00

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Attendees: See Red Fred, The Podfather Doug Thonus

Agenda: See Red Fred & the Podfather Doug Thonus discuss the breaking news about negotiations opening with Vooch to return.  

• Billy Ocean vs Frank Ocean 1:00

• Options on Vucevic 5:25

• What will the Bulls pay Vucevic 17:00

• Sing and Trade for Ayton 23:23

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See Red Fred, The Podfather Doug Thonus

AGENDA: See Red Fred & the Podfather Doug Thonus discuss Zach LaVine as a #2 option when compared to the current set of playoff teams.  They also provide a grade for Zach LaVine’s 2022-23 season.

• Suns vs Nuggets Game 4 Greatness 1:00
• Zach LaVine as a second option 5:25
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The Big Red Abomination 1:00

The Big 3 Issues 5:00

Doug’s War on AKME 9:45

What Could you Get for….11:30

Williams over Haliburton 14:00

Patrick Williams Critique 34:00

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Ayo Is Awesome 3:45

Vucevic 7:00

Patrick Williams 11:00

Andre 15:40

Zach LaVine 18:00

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Thoughts after 2 games 3:45

Benching Williams 5:00

Revisiting the 2020 Draft 9:00

Goran Tragic and Andre 20:00

Why are fans down on Coby? 21:00

Dalen Terry 29:00

The Rotation 30:00

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The Lonzo Ball News 1:00

Who is the Bulls Point Guard on Oct 19th? 5:00

Who has a Higher Ceiling…Ayo or Patrick? 10:00

Doug’s Has a Pessimistic View on the Season 12:30

What Should We Do if Things Go Badly? 27:00

Will the Bulls Finish Better than the….32:00

Poll Questions 37:00

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See Red Fred @cbefred interviews Kevin Anderson of NBC Sports Chicago to garner his thoughts on the Bulls Offseason. Kevin also offers his "Top 5" players in the NBA today.

Kevin’s take on the Bulls Offseason 4:10

What Teams Have Passed the Bulls? 6:21

Shouldn’t the Bulls have been more aggressive? 14:00

Coby White 17:00

Kevin’s Top 5 NBA Players Today 22:00

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