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      <description><![CDATA[<p>It’s easy to forget that everything in our lives that’s not strictly natural has been manufactured. That manufacturing incorporates elements from around the world, elements that had been designed, harvested, synthesized, shipped, assembled, shipped again to meet you. This system is remarkably efficient and ridiculously cheap, but that’s come at a cost. Our highly convenient world stands on toothpick-thin struts. How can we design it better?</p>
<p>In this episode of Policy Prompt, Paul and Vass are joined by Tim Minshall, inaugural Dr John C Taylor Professor of Innovation at the University of Cambridge, Head of the Institute for Manufacturing (IfM), Head of the IfM’s Centre for Technology Management and a Fellow of Churchill Co. Together, they explore the reality of today’s manufacturing, the fragility of the supply chains we take for granted, and how a better world can be manufactured.</p>
<p><strong>Mentioned:</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>Friction-maxxing: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friction-maxxing" rel="noopener noreferrer">wikipedia.org/wiki/Friction-maxxing</a></li>
 <li>Institute for manufacturing: <a href="https://www.ifm.eng.cam.ac.uk/" rel="noopener noreferrer">ifm.eng.cam.ac.uk/</a></li>
 <li>COVID-19 toilet paper crisis: <a href="https://www.statcan.gc.ca/o1/en/plus/7899-great-toilet-paper-scare-2020" rel="noopener noreferrer">statcan.gc.ca/o1/en/plus/7899-great-toilet-paper-scare-2020</a></li>
 <li>Mercantilism: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercantilism" rel="noopener noreferrer">wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercantilism</a></li>
 <li>Supply chains: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_chain" rel="noopener noreferrer">wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_chain</a></li>
 <li>2021 blockage of the Suez Canal: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Suez_Canal_obstruction" rel="noopener noreferrer">wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Suez_Canal_obstruction</a></li>
 <li>Magic Eye pictures: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Eye" rel="noopener noreferrer">wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Eye</a></li>
 <li>Critical minerals: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_raw_materials" rel="noopener noreferrer">wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_raw_materials</a></li>
 <li>Decarbonization: <a href="https://news.climate.columbia.edu/2022/04/22/what-is-decarbonization-and-how-do-we-make-it-happen/" rel="noopener noreferrer">news.climate.columbia.edu/2022/04/22/what-is-decarbonization-and-how-do-we-make-it-happen/</a></li>
 <li>Liberation Day and tariffs: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_Day_tariffs" rel="noopener noreferrer">wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_Day_tariffs</a></li>
 <li>USMCA review in 2026: <a href="https://www.csis.org/analysis/usmca-review-2026#:~:text=The%20United%20States%E2%80%93Mexico%E2%80%93Canada%20Agreement%20(USMCA)%20is%20scheduled,a%20comprehensive%20renegotiation%20of%20its%20foundational%20terms" rel="noopener noreferrer">csis.org/analysis/usmca-review-2026</a></li>
 <li>Redundancy: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redundancy" rel="noopener noreferrer">wikipedia.org/wiki/Redundancy</a></li>
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<p><strong>Further Reading:</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>Tim Minshall bio: <a href="https://www.ifm.eng.cam.ac.uk/people/thwm100/" rel="noopener noreferrer">ifm.eng.cam.ac.uk/people/thwm100/</a></li>
 <li>How Things Are Made: A Journey Through the Hidden World of Manufacturing (Ecco, 2025) by Tim Minshall: <a href="https://www.indigo.ca/en-ca/how-things-are-made-a-journey-through-the-hidden-world-of-manufacturing/9780063434653.html" rel="noopener noreferrer">indigo.ca/en-ca/how-things-are-made-a-journey-through-the-hidden-world-of-manufacturing/9780063434653.html</a></li>
 <li>Your Life Is Manufactured: How We Make Things, Why It Matters and How We Can Do It Better (Faber & Faber, 2025) by Tim Minshall, shortlisted for the Royal Society Science Book Prize in 2025: <a href="https://royalsociety.org/medals-and-prizes/science-book-prize/books/2025/your-life-is-manufactured/" rel="noopener noreferrer">royalsociety.org/medals-and-prizes/science-book-prize/books/2025/your-life-is-manufactured/</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Credits:</strong></p>
<p><i>Policy Prompt</i> is produced by Vass Bednar and Paul Samson. Our supervising producer is Tim Lewis, with technical production by Henry Daemen and Luke McKee. Show notes are prepared by Rebecca MacIntyre, Libza Manna and Isabel Neufeld, who also handles social media engagement, brand design and episode artwork by Abhilasha Dewan and Sami Chouhdary, with creative direction from Som Tsoi. </p>
<p>Original music by Joshua Snethlage. </p>
<p>Sound mix and mastering by François Goudreault. </p>
<p>Be sure to follow us on social media. </p>
<ul>
 <li>X: <a href="https://x.com/_policyprompt" rel="noopener noreferrer">@_policyprompt</a></li>
 <li>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/cigionline/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer">@cigionline</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Listen to new episodes of <i>Policy Prompt</i> on all major podcast platforms. Questions, comments or suggestions? Reach out to CIGI’s <i>Policy Prompt</i> team at <a href="mailto:info@policyprompt.io" rel="noopener noreferrer">info@policyprompt.io</a></p>
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<p>In this episode of Policy Prompt, Paul and Vass are joined by Tim Minshall, inaugural Dr John C Taylor Professor of Innovation at the University of Cambridge, Head of the Institute for Manufacturing (IfM), Head of the IfM’s Centre for Technology Management and a Fellow of Churchill Co. Together, they explore the reality of today’s manufacturing, the fragility of the supply chains we take for granted, and how a better world can be manufactured.</p>
<p><strong>Mentioned:</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>Friction-maxxing: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friction-maxxing" rel="noopener noreferrer">wikipedia.org/wiki/Friction-maxxing</a></li>
 <li>Institute for manufacturing: <a href="https://www.ifm.eng.cam.ac.uk/" rel="noopener noreferrer">ifm.eng.cam.ac.uk/</a></li>
 <li>COVID-19 toilet paper crisis: <a href="https://www.statcan.gc.ca/o1/en/plus/7899-great-toilet-paper-scare-2020" rel="noopener noreferrer">statcan.gc.ca/o1/en/plus/7899-great-toilet-paper-scare-2020</a></li>
 <li>Mercantilism: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercantilism" rel="noopener noreferrer">wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercantilism</a></li>
 <li>Supply chains: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_chain" rel="noopener noreferrer">wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_chain</a></li>
 <li>2021 blockage of the Suez Canal: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Suez_Canal_obstruction" rel="noopener noreferrer">wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Suez_Canal_obstruction</a></li>
 <li>Magic Eye pictures: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Eye" rel="noopener noreferrer">wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Eye</a></li>
 <li>Critical minerals: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_raw_materials" rel="noopener noreferrer">wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_raw_materials</a></li>
 <li>Decarbonization: <a href="https://news.climate.columbia.edu/2022/04/22/what-is-decarbonization-and-how-do-we-make-it-happen/" rel="noopener noreferrer">news.climate.columbia.edu/2022/04/22/what-is-decarbonization-and-how-do-we-make-it-happen/</a></li>
 <li>Liberation Day and tariffs: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_Day_tariffs" rel="noopener noreferrer">wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_Day_tariffs</a></li>
 <li>USMCA review in 2026: <a href="https://www.csis.org/analysis/usmca-review-2026#:~:text=The%20United%20States%E2%80%93Mexico%E2%80%93Canada%20Agreement%20(USMCA)%20is%20scheduled,a%20comprehensive%20renegotiation%20of%20its%20foundational%20terms" rel="noopener noreferrer">csis.org/analysis/usmca-review-2026</a></li>
 <li>Redundancy: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redundancy" rel="noopener noreferrer">wikipedia.org/wiki/Redundancy</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Further Reading:</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>Tim Minshall bio: <a href="https://www.ifm.eng.cam.ac.uk/people/thwm100/" rel="noopener noreferrer">ifm.eng.cam.ac.uk/people/thwm100/</a></li>
 <li>How Things Are Made: A Journey Through the Hidden World of Manufacturing (Ecco, 2025) by Tim Minshall: <a href="https://www.indigo.ca/en-ca/how-things-are-made-a-journey-through-the-hidden-world-of-manufacturing/9780063434653.html" rel="noopener noreferrer">indigo.ca/en-ca/how-things-are-made-a-journey-through-the-hidden-world-of-manufacturing/9780063434653.html</a></li>
 <li>Your Life Is Manufactured: How We Make Things, Why It Matters and How We Can Do It Better (Faber & Faber, 2025) by Tim Minshall, shortlisted for the Royal Society Science Book Prize in 2025: <a href="https://royalsociety.org/medals-and-prizes/science-book-prize/books/2025/your-life-is-manufactured/" rel="noopener noreferrer">royalsociety.org/medals-and-prizes/science-book-prize/books/2025/your-life-is-manufactured/</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Credits:</strong></p>
<p><i>Policy Prompt</i> is produced by Vass Bednar and Paul Samson. Our supervising producer is Tim Lewis, with technical production by Henry Daemen and Luke McKee. Show notes are prepared by Rebecca MacIntyre, Libza Manna and Isabel Neufeld, who also handles social media engagement, brand design and episode artwork by Abhilasha Dewan and Sami Chouhdary, with creative direction from Som Tsoi. </p>
<p>Original music by Joshua Snethlage. </p>
<p>Sound mix and mastering by François Goudreault. </p>
<p>Be sure to follow us on social media. </p>
<ul>
 <li>X: <a href="https://x.com/_policyprompt" rel="noopener noreferrer">@_policyprompt</a></li>
 <li>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/cigionline/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer">@cigionline</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Listen to new episodes of <i>Policy Prompt</i> on all major podcast platforms. Questions, comments or suggestions? Reach out to CIGI’s <i>Policy Prompt</i> team at <a href="mailto:info@policyprompt.io" rel="noopener noreferrer">info@policyprompt.io</a></p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Today’s world is more convenient than it has ever been in history. It can take fewer than five discrete actions to have most anything delivered right to your door, and you don’t even have to get up from your chair. But in our world becoming so comfortable, so convenient, we must ask the question: What are we losing?</p>
<p>In this special episode, Vass is joined by Tim Wu, a preeminent legal scholar and former Special Assistant to the President for Technology and Competition Policy at the United States, in a live conversation recorded at Hot Docs in Toronto, in November 2025. The discussion was anchored on Tim’s latest book, The Age of Extraction: How Tech Platforms Conquered the Economy and Threaten Our Future Prosperity (Knopf, 2025), which illuminates how we can reclaim control and create a balanced economy that works for everyone in a modern world where tech platforms have been permitted to run rampant in their own self-interest under the guise of free innovation. We regulated electricity when it became clear it would change the world; why not today’s disruptive tech?</p>
<p><strong>Mentioned:</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>Human Potential Movement: <a href="https://spreadgreatideas.org/glossary/human-potential-movement/" rel="noopener noreferrer">spreadgreatideas.org/glossary/human-potential-movement/</a></li>
 <li>Clay Shirky: <a href="https://shirky.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">shirky.com/</a></li>
 <li>Raffi’s Bananaphone: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bananaphone" rel="noopener noreferrer">wikipedia.org/wiki/Bananaphone</a></li>
 <li>Amazon sellers bidding for top spots in results: <a href="https://www.aihello.com/resources/blog/amazon-ppc-bidding/" rel="noopener noreferrer">aihello.com/resources/blog/amazon-ppc-bidding/</a></li>
 <li>Lina M. Khan, former commissioner of the FTC: <a href="https://www.ftc.gov/about-ftc/commissioners-staff/lina-m-khan" rel="noopener noreferrer">ftc.gov/about-ftc/commissioners-staff/lina-m-khan</a></li>
 <li>History of nursing homes: <a href="https://share.google/G1faVin0hpjK5p5pS" rel="noopener noreferrer">share.google/G1faVin0hpjK5p5pS</a></li>
 <li>Canadian 2025 budget: <a href="https://budget.canada.ca/2025/home-accueil-en.html" rel="noopener noreferrer">budget.canada.ca/2025/home-accueil-en.html</a></li>
 <li>Economic gardening: <a href="https://www.kauffman.org/resources/policy/economic-gardening/" rel="noopener noreferrer">kauffman.org/resources/policy/economic-gardening/</a></li>
 <li>Democracy in decline worldwide: <a href="https://en.ara.cat/politics/democracy-in-decline-72-of-the-world-s-population-lives-in-autocracies_1_5352060.html" rel="noopener noreferrer">en.ara.cat/politics/democracy-in-decline-72-of-the-world-s-population-lives-in-autocracies_1_5352060.html</a></li>
 <li>Hugo Chavez launching monetary support for Venezuelan children living in poverty in 2011: <a href="https://www.reuters.com/article/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/chavez-launches-cash-giveaway-for-poor-venezuela-kids-idUSTRE7BB1C8/" rel="noopener noreferrer">reuters.com/article/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/chavez-launches-cash-giveaway-for-poor-venezuela-kids-idUSTRE7BB1C8/</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Further Reading:</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>Tim Wu biography: <a href="https://timwu.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer">timwu.net/</a></li>
 <li>The Age of Extraction: How Tech Platforms Conquered the Economy and Threaten Our Future Prosperity (Knopf, 2025): <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/691177/the-age-of-extraction-by-tim-wu/" rel="noopener noreferrer">penguinrandomhouse.com/books/691177/the-age-of-extraction-by-tim-wu/</a></li>
 <li>Agency decay from AI usage: <a href="https://www.cigionline.org/articles/the-silent-erosion-how-ais-helping-hand-weakens-our-mental-grip/" rel="noopener noreferrer">cigionline.org/articles/the-silent-erosion-how-ais-helping-hand-weakens-our-mental-grip/</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Credits:</strong></p>
<p><i>Policy Prompt</i> is produced by Vass Bednar and Paul Samson. Our supervising producer is Tim Lewis, with technical production by Henry Daemen and Luke McKee. Show notes are prepared by Rebecca MacIntyre, Libza Manna and Isabel Neufeld, who also handles social media engagement, brand design and episode artwork by Abhilasha Dewan and Sami Chouhdary, with creative direction from Som Tsoi. </p>
<p>Original music by Joshua Snethlage. </p>
<p>Sound mix and mastering by François Goudreault. </p>
<p>Be sure to follow us on social media. </p>
<ul>
 <li>X: <a href="https://x.com/_policyprompt" rel="noopener noreferrer">@_policyprompt</a></li>
 <li>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/cigionline/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer">@cigionline</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Listen to new episodes of <i>Policy Prompt</i> on all major podcast platforms. Questions, comments or suggestions? Reach out to CIGI’s <i>Policy Prompt</i> team at <a href="mailto:info@policyprompt.io" rel="noopener noreferrer">info@policyprompt.io</a></p>
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<p>In this special episode, Vass is joined by Tim Wu, a preeminent legal scholar and former Special Assistant to the President for Technology and Competition Policy at the United States, in a live conversation recorded at Hot Docs in Toronto, in November 2025. The discussion was anchored on Tim’s latest book, The Age of Extraction: How Tech Platforms Conquered the Economy and Threaten Our Future Prosperity (Knopf, 2025), which illuminates how we can reclaim control and create a balanced economy that works for everyone in a modern world where tech platforms have been permitted to run rampant in their own self-interest under the guise of free innovation. We regulated electricity when it became clear it would change the world; why not today’s disruptive tech?</p>
<p><strong>Mentioned:</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>Human Potential Movement: <a href="https://spreadgreatideas.org/glossary/human-potential-movement/" rel="noopener noreferrer">spreadgreatideas.org/glossary/human-potential-movement/</a></li>
 <li>Clay Shirky: <a href="https://shirky.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">shirky.com/</a></li>
 <li>Raffi’s Bananaphone: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bananaphone" rel="noopener noreferrer">wikipedia.org/wiki/Bananaphone</a></li>
 <li>Amazon sellers bidding for top spots in results: <a href="https://www.aihello.com/resources/blog/amazon-ppc-bidding/" rel="noopener noreferrer">aihello.com/resources/blog/amazon-ppc-bidding/</a></li>
 <li>Lina M. Khan, former commissioner of the FTC: <a href="https://www.ftc.gov/about-ftc/commissioners-staff/lina-m-khan" rel="noopener noreferrer">ftc.gov/about-ftc/commissioners-staff/lina-m-khan</a></li>
 <li>History of nursing homes: <a href="https://share.google/G1faVin0hpjK5p5pS" rel="noopener noreferrer">share.google/G1faVin0hpjK5p5pS</a></li>
 <li>Canadian 2025 budget: <a href="https://budget.canada.ca/2025/home-accueil-en.html" rel="noopener noreferrer">budget.canada.ca/2025/home-accueil-en.html</a></li>
 <li>Economic gardening: <a href="https://www.kauffman.org/resources/policy/economic-gardening/" rel="noopener noreferrer">kauffman.org/resources/policy/economic-gardening/</a></li>
 <li>Democracy in decline worldwide: <a href="https://en.ara.cat/politics/democracy-in-decline-72-of-the-world-s-population-lives-in-autocracies_1_5352060.html" rel="noopener noreferrer">en.ara.cat/politics/democracy-in-decline-72-of-the-world-s-population-lives-in-autocracies_1_5352060.html</a></li>
 <li>Hugo Chavez launching monetary support for Venezuelan children living in poverty in 2011: <a href="https://www.reuters.com/article/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/chavez-launches-cash-giveaway-for-poor-venezuela-kids-idUSTRE7BB1C8/" rel="noopener noreferrer">reuters.com/article/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/chavez-launches-cash-giveaway-for-poor-venezuela-kids-idUSTRE7BB1C8/</a></li>
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<p><strong>Further Reading:</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>Tim Wu biography: <a href="https://timwu.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer">timwu.net/</a></li>
 <li>The Age of Extraction: How Tech Platforms Conquered the Economy and Threaten Our Future Prosperity (Knopf, 2025): <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/691177/the-age-of-extraction-by-tim-wu/" rel="noopener noreferrer">penguinrandomhouse.com/books/691177/the-age-of-extraction-by-tim-wu/</a></li>
 <li>Agency decay from AI usage: <a href="https://www.cigionline.org/articles/the-silent-erosion-how-ais-helping-hand-weakens-our-mental-grip/" rel="noopener noreferrer">cigionline.org/articles/the-silent-erosion-how-ais-helping-hand-weakens-our-mental-grip/</a></li>
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<p><strong>Credits:</strong></p>
<p><i>Policy Prompt</i> is produced by Vass Bednar and Paul Samson. Our supervising producer is Tim Lewis, with technical production by Henry Daemen and Luke McKee. Show notes are prepared by Rebecca MacIntyre, Libza Manna and Isabel Neufeld, who also handles social media engagement, brand design and episode artwork by Abhilasha Dewan and Sami Chouhdary, with creative direction from Som Tsoi. </p>
<p>Original music by Joshua Snethlage. </p>
<p>Sound mix and mastering by François Goudreault. </p>
<p>Be sure to follow us on social media. </p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Ever since the ancient Athenians first attempted a democratic approach to governance, nations worldwide have been attempting to perfect it. Some things we’ve gotten right; for instance, many nations have decided that the Athenians’ exclusion of many groups of people was not conducive to democracy, and instead have elected to include all people, not just men who owned land. But we’ve oftentimes gotten things wrong, too. How can we reinvent democracy, given what we know now?</p><p>In this episode of <i>Policy Prompt</i>, Paul and Vass welcome James Bacchus, a former member of the US Congress, a founding judge, twice chairman and chief judge of the Appellate Body at the World Trade Organization in Geneva, director of the Center for Global Economic and Environmental Opportunity at the University of Central Florida, CIGI senior fellow, and much more, to discuss how a true global democracy could be formed, one that accurately represents all nations and that dutifully involves all humankind. Many of us are quite removed from the “democratic” proceedings of our nations. What if we had the right to participate?</p><p><strong>Mentioned:</strong></p><ul><li>Chinese coal plants: <a href="https://apnews.com/article/china-coal-solar-climate-carbon-emissions-242abe76eb69f5a362e977de74ff3254">apnews.com/article/china-coal-solar-climate-carbon-emissions-242abe76eb69f5a362e977de74ff3254</a></li><li>8 The Economist Democracy Index: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index</a></li><li>Gerrymandering:</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering#:~:text=Gerrymandering%2C%20">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering#:~:text=Gerrymandering%2C%20</a></li><li>Participatory Democracy: <a href="https://www.govocal.com/blog/what-is-participatory-democracy">www.govocal.com/blog/what-is-participatory-democracy</a></li><li>Sortition, the “jury duty” system: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sortition">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sortition</a></li><li>The Pnyx, an important site in the creation of democracy: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pnyx">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pnyx</a></li><li>Athenian Democracy: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athenian_democracy">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athenian_democracy</a></li><li>“Living Democracy,” a philosophy of John Dewey: <a href="https://share.google/qXy5uA1tEdqhZowtl">share.google/qXy5uA1tEdqhZowtl</a></li><li>Food shortages in Central Florida due to government shutdown <a href="https://mynews13.com/fl/orlando/news/2025/10/15/central-florida-food-banks-step-up-as-government-shutdown-impacts-families">mynews13.com/fl/orlando/news/2025/10/15/central-florida-food-banks-step-up-as-government-shutdown-impacts-families</a></li></ul><p><strong>Further Reading:</strong></p><ul><li>James Bacchus bio: <a href="https://www.cigionline.org/people/james-bacchus/">cigionline.org/people/james-bacchus/</a></li><li>James Bacchus books: <a href="https://www.google.ca/search?sca_esv=4ee06a5b294f010f&hl=en&q=inauthor:%22James+Bacchus%22&udm=36">google.ca/search?sca_esv=4ee06a5b294f010f&hl=en&q=inauthor:%22James+Bacchus%22&udm=36</a></li></ul><p><strong>Credits:</strong></p><p><i>Policy Prompt</i> is produced by Vass Bednar and Paul Samson. Our supervising producer is Tim Lewis, with technical production by Henry Daemen and Luke McKee. Show notes are prepared by Rebecca MacIntyre, Libza Manna and Isabel Neufeld, who also handles social media engagement, brand design and episode artwork by Abhilasha Dewan and Sami Chouhdary, with creative direction from Som Tsoi. </p><p>Original music by Joshua Snethlage. </p><p>Sound mix and mastering by François Goudreault. </p><p>Be sure to follow us on social media. </p><ul><li>X: <a href="https://x.com/_policyprompt">@_policyprompt</a></li><li>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/cigionline/?hl=en">@cigionline</a></li></ul><p>Listen to new episodes of <i>Policy Prompt</i> on all major podcast platforms. Questions, comments or suggestions? Reach out to CIGI’s <i>Policy Prompt</i> team at <a href="mailto:info@policyprompt.io">info@policyprompt.io</a></p>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever since the ancient Athenians first attempted a democratic approach to governance, nations worldwide have been attempting to perfect it. Some things we’ve gotten right; for instance, many nations have decided that the Athenians’ exclusion of many groups of people was not conducive to democracy, and instead have elected to include all people, not just men who owned land. But we’ve oftentimes gotten things wrong, too. How can we reinvent democracy, given what we know now?</p><p>In this episode of <i>Policy Prompt</i>, Paul and Vass welcome James Bacchus, a former member of the US Congress, a founding judge, twice chairman and chief judge of the Appellate Body at the World Trade Organization in Geneva, director of the Center for Global Economic and Environmental Opportunity at the University of Central Florida, CIGI senior fellow, and much more, to discuss how a true global democracy could be formed, one that accurately represents all nations and that dutifully involves all humankind. Many of us are quite removed from the “democratic” proceedings of our nations. What if we had the right to participate?</p><p><strong>Mentioned:</strong></p><ul><li>Chinese coal plants: <a href="https://apnews.com/article/china-coal-solar-climate-carbon-emissions-242abe76eb69f5a362e977de74ff3254">apnews.com/article/china-coal-solar-climate-carbon-emissions-242abe76eb69f5a362e977de74ff3254</a></li><li>8 The Economist Democracy Index: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index</a></li><li>Gerrymandering:</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering#:~:text=Gerrymandering%2C%20">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering#:~:text=Gerrymandering%2C%20</a></li><li>Participatory Democracy: <a href="https://www.govocal.com/blog/what-is-participatory-democracy">www.govocal.com/blog/what-is-participatory-democracy</a></li><li>Sortition, the “jury duty” system: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sortition">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sortition</a></li><li>The Pnyx, an important site in the creation of democracy: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pnyx">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pnyx</a></li><li>Athenian Democracy: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athenian_democracy">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athenian_democracy</a></li><li>“Living Democracy,” a philosophy of John Dewey: <a href="https://share.google/qXy5uA1tEdqhZowtl">share.google/qXy5uA1tEdqhZowtl</a></li><li>Food shortages in Central Florida due to government shutdown <a href="https://mynews13.com/fl/orlando/news/2025/10/15/central-florida-food-banks-step-up-as-government-shutdown-impacts-families">mynews13.com/fl/orlando/news/2025/10/15/central-florida-food-banks-step-up-as-government-shutdown-impacts-families</a></li></ul><p><strong>Further Reading:</strong></p><ul><li>James Bacchus bio: <a href="https://www.cigionline.org/people/james-bacchus/">cigionline.org/people/james-bacchus/</a></li><li>James Bacchus books: <a href="https://www.google.ca/search?sca_esv=4ee06a5b294f010f&hl=en&q=inauthor:%22James+Bacchus%22&udm=36">google.ca/search?sca_esv=4ee06a5b294f010f&hl=en&q=inauthor:%22James+Bacchus%22&udm=36</a></li></ul><p><strong>Credits:</strong></p><p><i>Policy Prompt</i> is produced by Vass Bednar and Paul Samson. Our supervising producer is Tim Lewis, with technical production by Henry Daemen and Luke McKee. Show notes are prepared by Rebecca MacIntyre, Libza Manna and Isabel Neufeld, who also handles social media engagement, brand design and episode artwork by Abhilasha Dewan and Sami Chouhdary, with creative direction from Som Tsoi. </p><p>Original music by Joshua Snethlage. </p><p>Sound mix and mastering by François Goudreault. </p><p>Be sure to follow us on social media. </p><ul><li>X: <a href="https://x.com/_policyprompt">@_policyprompt</a></li><li>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/cigionline/?hl=en">@cigionline</a></li></ul><p>Listen to new episodes of <i>Policy Prompt</i> on all major podcast platforms. Questions, comments or suggestions? Reach out to CIGI’s <i>Policy Prompt</i> team at <a href="mailto:info@policyprompt.io">info@policyprompt.io</a></p>
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Based in East and Southeast Asia for two decades, Mark is a researcher who utilizes his background in corporate and financial mapping to investigate Asia’s online gambling, fraud, and money laundering industries. 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Our supervising producer is Tim Lewis, with technical production by Henry Daemen and Luke McKee. Show notes are prepared by Rebecca MacIntyre, Libza Manna and Isabel Neufeld, who also handles social media engagement, brand design and episode artwork by Abhilasha Dewan and Sami Chouhdary, with creative direction from Som Tsoi. </p><p>Original music by Joshua Snethlage. </p><p>Sound mix and mastering by François Goudreault. </p><p>Be sure to follow us on social media. </p><ul><li>X: <a href="https://x.com/_policyprompt">@_policyprompt</a></li><li>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/cigionline/?hl=en">@cigionline</a> </li></ul><p>Listen to new episodes of <i>Policy Prompt</i> on all major podcast platforms. Questions, comments or suggestions? Reach out to CIGI’s <i>Policy Prompt</i> team at <a href="mailto:info@policyprompt.io">info@policyprompt.io</a></p>
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Based in East and Southeast Asia for two decades, Mark is a researcher who utilizes his background in corporate and financial mapping to investigate Asia’s online gambling, fraud, and money laundering industries. 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Our supervising producer is Tim Lewis, with technical production by Henry Daemen and Luke McKee. Show notes are prepared by Rebecca MacIntyre, Libza Manna and Isabel Neufeld, who also handles social media engagement, brand design and episode artwork by Abhilasha Dewan and Sami Chouhdary, with creative direction from Som Tsoi. </p><p>Original music by Joshua Snethlage. </p><p>Sound mix and mastering by François Goudreault. </p><p>Be sure to follow us on social media. </p><ul><li>X: <a href="https://x.com/_policyprompt">@_policyprompt</a></li><li>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/cigionline/?hl=en">@cigionline</a> </li></ul><p>Listen to new episodes of <i>Policy Prompt</i> on all major podcast platforms. Questions, comments or suggestions? Reach out to CIGI’s <i>Policy Prompt</i> team at <a href="mailto:info@policyprompt.io">info@policyprompt.io</a></p>
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Our supervising producer is Tim Lewis, with technical production by Henry Daemen and Luke McKee. Show notes are prepared by Rebecca MacIntyre, Libza Manna and Isabel Neufeld, who also handles social media engagement, brand design and episode artwork by Abhilasha Dewan and Sami Chouhdary, with creative direction from Som Tsoi. </p><p>Original music by Joshua Snethlage. </p><p>Sound mix and mastering by François Goudreault. </p><p>Be sure to follow us on social media. </p><ul><li>X: <a href="https://x.com/_policyprompt">@_policyprompt</a></li><li>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/cigionline/?hl=en">@cigionline</a> </li></ul><p>Listen to new episodes of <i>Policy Prompt</i> on all major podcast platforms. Questions, comments or suggestions? Reach out to CIGI’s <i>Policy Prompt</i> team at <a href="mailto:info@policyprompt.io">info@policyprompt.io</a></p>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neurotechnology is a dual-use technology transforming lives — from implantable devices that use deep brain stimulation to ease tremors from Parkinson’s disease to commercial wearables that promise more effective meditation. But without the necessary legal, ethical, and regulatory safeguards, the misuse and abuse of neurotechnology and the data it collects becomes inevitable.</p><p>In this episode, hosts Vass Bednar and Paul Samson speak with Jared Genser about neurotechnology, its implications for humanity, and the emerging dilemmas around neuro-rights, freedom of thought, and mental privacy. Jared is an international human rights lawyer and managing director of the law firm Perseus Strategies. 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Our supervising producer is Tim Lewis, with technical production by Henry Daemen and Luke McKee. Show notes are prepared by Rebecca MacIntyre, Libza Manna and Isabel Neufeld, who also handles social media engagement, brand design and episode artwork by Abhilasha Dewan and Sami Chouhdary, with creative direction from Som Tsoi. </p><p>Original music by Joshua Snethlage. </p><p>Sound mix and mastering by François Goudreault. </p><p>Be sure to follow us on social media. </p><ul><li>X: <a href="https://x.com/_policyprompt">@_policyprompt</a></li><li>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/cigionline/?hl=en">@cigionline</a> </li></ul><p>Listen to new episodes of <i>Policy Prompt</i> on all major podcast platforms. Questions, comments or suggestions? Reach out to CIGI’s <i>Policy Prompt</i> team at <a href="mailto:info@policyprompt.io">info@policyprompt.io</a></p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Artificial intelligence (AI) has had a profound impact on science, from data analysis to scenario simulation and predicting protein structure — its full potential is still unknown. Today, many scientists are dedicated to better understanding AI and how to integrate it into research to accelerate the pace of scientific discoveries without compromising rigour and principle. Is there a future where AI will make new scientific discoveries on its own?   </p><p>Join hosts Vass Bednar and Paul Samson as they speak with Rebecca Willett about the role machine learning and AI play in scientific research now and how she sees it impacting scientists in the future. Rebecca is a professor of statistics and computer science at the University of Chicago and faculty director of artificial intelligence at the University’s Data Science Institute. Her research focuses on machine learning and making sense of complex, large-scale datasets, as well as data science. Rebecca completed her PhD in electrical and computer engineering at Rice University and is a member of the Computer Science Study Group at the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA). </p><p><strong>In-Show Clips:</strong></p><p>00:15:03: NOVA scienceNOW, "What Will the Future Be Like?": <a href="https://www.pbslearningmedia.org/resource/nvsn6.sci.tech.foldit/foldit-a-protein-puzzle-game/nova-premium-collection/">FoldIt: A Protein Puzzle Game</a> (PBS LearningMedia, 2013)</p><p>00:15:17: Nature Video: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axN0xdhznhY">Foldit: Biology for gamers</a> (YouTube, August 4, 2010)</p><p><strong>Mentioned:</strong></p><ul><li>Google DeepMind AlphaFold: <a href="https://deepmind.google/science/alphafold/">deepmind.google/science/alphafold/</a></li><li>Protein folding computer game Foldit: <a href="http://fold.it/">fold.it/</a></li><li>The COVID-19 Citizen Science Study: <a href="http://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8407439/">pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8407439/</a></li><li>People-powered research platform Zooniverse: <a href="http://zooniverse.org/">zooniverse.org/</a></li></ul><p><strong>Further Reading:</strong></p><ul><li>Rebecca Willet, professor of statistics and computer science at the University of Chicago and faculty director of artificial intelligence at the University’s Data Science Institute. Find her bio and works here: <a href="http://willett.psd.uchicago.edu/">willett.psd.uchicago.edu/</a></li></ul><p><strong>Credits:</strong></p><p><i>Policy Prompt</i> is produced by Vass Bednar and Paul Samson. Our supervising producer is Tim Lewis, with technical production by Henry Daemen and Luke McKee. Show notes are prepared by Rebecca MacIntyre, Libza Manna and Isabel Neufeld, who also handles social media engagement, brand design and episode artwork by Abhilasha Dewan and Sami Chouhdary, with creative direction from Som Tsoi. </p><p>Original music by Joshua Snethlage. </p><p>Sound mix and mastering by François Goudreault. </p><p>Be sure to follow us on social media. </p><ul><li>X: <a href="https://x.com/_policyprompt">@_policyprompt</a></li><li>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/cigionline/?hl=en">@cigionline</a> </li></ul><p>Listen to new episodes of <i>Policy Prompt</i> on all major podcast platforms. Questions, comments or suggestions? Reach out to CIGI’s <i>Policy Prompt</i> team at <a href="mailto:info@policyprompt.io">info@policyprompt.io</a></p>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Artificial intelligence (AI) has had a profound impact on science, from data analysis to scenario simulation and predicting protein structure — its full potential is still unknown. Today, many scientists are dedicated to better understanding AI and how to integrate it into research to accelerate the pace of scientific discoveries without compromising rigour and principle. Is there a future where AI will make new scientific discoveries on its own?   </p><p>Join hosts Vass Bednar and Paul Samson as they speak with Rebecca Willett about the role machine learning and AI play in scientific research now and how she sees it impacting scientists in the future. Rebecca is a professor of statistics and computer science at the University of Chicago and faculty director of artificial intelligence at the University’s Data Science Institute. Her research focuses on machine learning and making sense of complex, large-scale datasets, as well as data science. Rebecca completed her PhD in electrical and computer engineering at Rice University and is a member of the Computer Science Study Group at the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA). </p><p><strong>In-Show Clips:</strong></p><p>00:15:03: NOVA scienceNOW, "What Will the Future Be Like?": <a href="https://www.pbslearningmedia.org/resource/nvsn6.sci.tech.foldit/foldit-a-protein-puzzle-game/nova-premium-collection/">FoldIt: A Protein Puzzle Game</a> (PBS LearningMedia, 2013)</p><p>00:15:17: Nature Video: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axN0xdhznhY">Foldit: Biology for gamers</a> (YouTube, August 4, 2010)</p><p><strong>Mentioned:</strong></p><ul><li>Google DeepMind AlphaFold: <a href="https://deepmind.google/science/alphafold/">deepmind.google/science/alphafold/</a></li><li>Protein folding computer game Foldit: <a href="http://fold.it/">fold.it/</a></li><li>The COVID-19 Citizen Science Study: <a href="http://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8407439/">pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8407439/</a></li><li>People-powered research platform Zooniverse: <a href="http://zooniverse.org/">zooniverse.org/</a></li></ul><p><strong>Further Reading:</strong></p><ul><li>Rebecca Willet, professor of statistics and computer science at the University of Chicago and faculty director of artificial intelligence at the University’s Data Science Institute. Find her bio and works here: <a href="http://willett.psd.uchicago.edu/">willett.psd.uchicago.edu/</a></li></ul><p><strong>Credits:</strong></p><p><i>Policy Prompt</i> is produced by Vass Bednar and Paul Samson. Our supervising producer is Tim Lewis, with technical production by Henry Daemen and Luke McKee. Show notes are prepared by Rebecca MacIntyre, Libza Manna and Isabel Neufeld, who also handles social media engagement, brand design and episode artwork by Abhilasha Dewan and Sami Chouhdary, with creative direction from Som Tsoi. </p><p>Original music by Joshua Snethlage. </p><p>Sound mix and mastering by François Goudreault. </p><p>Be sure to follow us on social media. </p><ul><li>X: <a href="https://x.com/_policyprompt">@_policyprompt</a></li><li>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/cigionline/?hl=en">@cigionline</a> </li></ul><p>Listen to new episodes of <i>Policy Prompt</i> on all major podcast platforms. Questions, comments or suggestions? Reach out to CIGI’s <i>Policy Prompt</i> team at <a href="mailto:info@policyprompt.io">info@policyprompt.io</a></p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Often compared to ocean shipping lanes, Earth’s orbital layers act as channels to almost 14,000 satellites moving at around 7 km/second. These orbital pathways are becoming increasingly congested as a rapidly growing number of commercial actors enter what was once a predominantly state-run domain. Can the 1967 Outer Space Treaty hold up against this space revolution? Can international structures quickly modernize and work together to ensure all players in the space race are committed to a safe and sustainable future?</p><p>Join hosts Vass Bednar and Paul Samson as they speak with guests Esther Brimmer and Jessica West about a comprehensive and collaborative approach to space governance. Esther is a senior fellow at the US Council on Foreign Relations, a former US assistant secretary of state and an expert in international institutions. Jessica is a CIGI senior fellow and a senior researcher at Project Ploughshares, a Canadian peace and security research institute, where she focuses on technology, security and governance in outer space.</p><p><strong>In-Show Clips:</strong></p><ul><li>00:29:04: Universal Studios: <a href="https://archive.org/details/1957-10-07_New_Moon">“New Moon. Reds Launch First Space Satellite”</a> (Internet Archive, October 7, 1957)</li></ul><p><strong>Mentioned:</strong></p><ul><li>UN Outer Space Treaty: <a href="https://www.unoosa.org/oosa/en/ourwork/spacelaw/treaties/introouterspacetreaty.html">https://www.unoosa.org/oosa/en/ourwork/spacelaw/treaties/introouterspacetreaty.html</a></li><li>International Maritime Organization Polar Code:  <br /><a href="http://imo.org/en/ourwork/safety/pages/polar-code.aspx">imo.org/en/ourwork/safety/pages/polar-code.aspx </a></li><li>Geostationary orbit: <br /><a href="http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Geostationary_orbit">wikipedia.org/wiki/Geostationary_orbit </a></li><li>United Arab Emirates future space planning: <br /><a href="http://space.gov.ae/en/media-center/blogs/2/3/2020/uae-shaping-future-of-earth-observation-satellites-and-space-exploration">space.gov.ae/en/media-center/blogs/2/3/2020/uae-shaping-future-of-earth-observation-satellites-and-space-exploration </a></li><li>UN Committee on the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space: <br /><a href="https://www.unoosa.org/oosa/en/ourwork/copuos/current.html">https://www.unoosa.org/oosa/en/ourwork/copuos/current.html</a></li><li>Philippine National Statements during the 68th Session of the United Nations Committee on the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space: <br /><a href="http://philsa.gov.ph/news/philippine-national-statements-during-the-68th-session-of-the-united-nations-committee-on-the-peaceful-uses-of-outer-space-un-copuos/">philsa.gov.ph/news/philippine-national-statements-during-the-68th-session-of-the-united-nations-committee-on-the-peaceful-uses-of-outer-space-un-copuos/ </a></li><li>Canada’s statement to the First Committee of the 79th Session of the United Nations, Thematic Debate: Outer Space: <br /><a href="http://international.gc.ca/world-monde/issues_development-enjeux_developpement/peace_security-paix_securite/weapon-armes-control-documents/thematic-debat6.aspx?lang=eng">international.gc.ca/world-monde/issues_development-enjeux_developpement/peace_security-paix_securite/weapon-armes-control-documents/thematic-debat6.aspx?lang=eng </a></li></ul><p><strong>Further Reading:</strong></p><ul><li>Jessica West, CIGI senior fellow and senior researcher at Project Ploughshares. Find her CIGI bio and works here: <a href="http://cigionline.org/people/jessica-west/">cigionline.org/people/jessica-west/ </a></li><li>Esther Brimmer, James H. Binger senior fellow in global governance and former assistant secretary of state for international organization affairs. Find her Council on Foreign Relations bio and works here: <a href="http://cfr.org/expert/esther-brimmer">cfr.org/expert/esther-brimmer</a></li></ul><p><strong>Credits:</strong></p><p><i>Policy Prompt</i> is produced by Vass Bednar and Paul Samson. Our supervising producer is Tim Lewis, with technical production by Henry Daemen and Luke McKee. Show notes are prepared by Lynn Schellenberg, social media engagement by Isabel Neufeld, brand design and episode artwork by Abhilasha Dewan and Sami Chouhdary, with creative direction from Som Tsoi. </p><p>Original music by Joshua Snethlage. </p><p>Sound mix and mastering by François Goudreault. </p><p>Be sure to follow us on social media. </p><ul><li>X: <a href="https://x.com/_policyprompt">@_policyprompt</a></li><li>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/cigionline/?hl=en">@cigionline</a> </li></ul><p>Listen to new episodes of <i>Policy Prompt</i> on all major podcast platforms. Questions, comments or suggestions? Reach out to CIGI’s <i>Policy Prompt</i> team at <a href="mailto:info@policyprompt.io">info@policyprompt.io</a></p>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Often compared to ocean shipping lanes, Earth’s orbital layers act as channels to almost 14,000 satellites moving at around 7 km/second. These orbital pathways are becoming increasingly congested as a rapidly growing number of commercial actors enter what was once a predominantly state-run domain. Can the 1967 Outer Space Treaty hold up against this space revolution? Can international structures quickly modernize and work together to ensure all players in the space race are committed to a safe and sustainable future?</p><p>Join hosts Vass Bednar and Paul Samson as they speak with guests Esther Brimmer and Jessica West about a comprehensive and collaborative approach to space governance. Esther is a senior fellow at the US Council on Foreign Relations, a former US assistant secretary of state and an expert in international institutions. Jessica is a CIGI senior fellow and a senior researcher at Project Ploughshares, a Canadian peace and security research institute, where she focuses on technology, security and governance in outer space.</p><p><strong>In-Show Clips:</strong></p><ul><li>00:29:04: Universal Studios: <a href="https://archive.org/details/1957-10-07_New_Moon">“New Moon. Reds Launch First Space Satellite”</a> (Internet Archive, October 7, 1957)</li></ul><p><strong>Mentioned:</strong></p><ul><li>UN Outer Space Treaty: <a href="https://www.unoosa.org/oosa/en/ourwork/spacelaw/treaties/introouterspacetreaty.html">https://www.unoosa.org/oosa/en/ourwork/spacelaw/treaties/introouterspacetreaty.html</a></li><li>International Maritime Organization Polar Code:  <br /><a href="http://imo.org/en/ourwork/safety/pages/polar-code.aspx">imo.org/en/ourwork/safety/pages/polar-code.aspx </a></li><li>Geostationary orbit: <br /><a href="http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Geostationary_orbit">wikipedia.org/wiki/Geostationary_orbit </a></li><li>United Arab Emirates future space planning: <br /><a href="http://space.gov.ae/en/media-center/blogs/2/3/2020/uae-shaping-future-of-earth-observation-satellites-and-space-exploration">space.gov.ae/en/media-center/blogs/2/3/2020/uae-shaping-future-of-earth-observation-satellites-and-space-exploration </a></li><li>UN Committee on the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space: <br /><a href="https://www.unoosa.org/oosa/en/ourwork/copuos/current.html">https://www.unoosa.org/oosa/en/ourwork/copuos/current.html</a></li><li>Philippine National Statements during the 68th Session of the United Nations Committee on the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space: <br /><a href="http://philsa.gov.ph/news/philippine-national-statements-during-the-68th-session-of-the-united-nations-committee-on-the-peaceful-uses-of-outer-space-un-copuos/">philsa.gov.ph/news/philippine-national-statements-during-the-68th-session-of-the-united-nations-committee-on-the-peaceful-uses-of-outer-space-un-copuos/ </a></li><li>Canada’s statement to the First Committee of the 79th Session of the United Nations, Thematic Debate: Outer Space: <br /><a href="http://international.gc.ca/world-monde/issues_development-enjeux_developpement/peace_security-paix_securite/weapon-armes-control-documents/thematic-debat6.aspx?lang=eng">international.gc.ca/world-monde/issues_development-enjeux_developpement/peace_security-paix_securite/weapon-armes-control-documents/thematic-debat6.aspx?lang=eng </a></li></ul><p><strong>Further Reading:</strong></p><ul><li>Jessica West, CIGI senior fellow and senior researcher at Project Ploughshares. Find her CIGI bio and works here: <a href="http://cigionline.org/people/jessica-west/">cigionline.org/people/jessica-west/ </a></li><li>Esther Brimmer, James H. Binger senior fellow in global governance and former assistant secretary of state for international organization affairs. Find her Council on Foreign Relations bio and works here: <a href="http://cfr.org/expert/esther-brimmer">cfr.org/expert/esther-brimmer</a></li></ul><p><strong>Credits:</strong></p><p><i>Policy Prompt</i> is produced by Vass Bednar and Paul Samson. Our supervising producer is Tim Lewis, with technical production by Henry Daemen and Luke McKee. Show notes are prepared by Lynn Schellenberg, social media engagement by Isabel Neufeld, brand design and episode artwork by Abhilasha Dewan and Sami Chouhdary, with creative direction from Som Tsoi. </p><p>Original music by Joshua Snethlage. </p><p>Sound mix and mastering by François Goudreault. </p><p>Be sure to follow us on social media. </p><ul><li>X: <a href="https://x.com/_policyprompt">@_policyprompt</a></li><li>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/cigionline/?hl=en">@cigionline</a> </li></ul><p>Listen to new episodes of <i>Policy Prompt</i> on all major podcast platforms. Questions, comments or suggestions? Reach out to CIGI’s <i>Policy Prompt</i> team at <a href="mailto:info@policyprompt.io">info@policyprompt.io</a></p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>For centuries, the power to create money was isolated to traditional issuers, who built trust over the ages. But now stablecoins are starting to pull at that monopoly, rising up in relevance as a massive innovation on infrastructure. Some jurisdictions are turning things upside down with digital asset adoption, while others are holding back, with important geopolitical implications. </p><p>On season two’s opener, hosts Vass Bednar and Paul Samson welcome Ali Abou Daya and Morva Rohani to discuss the emergence and transformative nature of crypto and stablecoins. Ali is the chief executive officer of Transactix Financial, a stablecoin company, and Morva is the executive director of the Canadian Web3 Council, an industry organization that advocates for responsible public policy. Together the four consider the digitalization of traditional finance, and the challenges surrounding establishing trust and who controls what.</p><p><strong>Mentioned:</strong></p><ul><li>Blockchain: see CIGI’s explainer video “<a href="https://www.cigionline.org/multimedia/what-blockchain/">What Is Blockchain?</a>” (YouTube, January 4, 2018)</li><li>“In God We Trust” printed on US currency: see<a href="https://www.congress.gov/committee-report/112th-congress/house-report/47/1"> www.congress.gov/committee-report/112th-congress/house-report/47/1</a> and David Mislin, “<a href="https://theconversation.com/the-complex-history-of-in-god-we-trust-91117">The complex history of ‘In God We Trust’</a>” (<i>The Conversation</i>, February 2, 2018)</li><li>“Satoshi” refers to Satoshi Nakamoto, the mysterious pseudonymous author of a 2008 white paper entitled “<a href="https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf">Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System</a>”; see also Joshua Davis, “<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2011/10/10/the-crypto-currency">The Crypto-Currency</a>” (<i>The New Yorker</i>, October 3, 2011)</li><li>“Bitcoin maxis”: Tonya M. Evan defines this term and others in the digital asset lexicon: “<a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/tonyaevans/2024/08/21/the-bitcoin-not-crypto-debate-why-words-matter/">The Bitcoin, Not Crypto, Debate: Why Words Matter</a>” (<i>Forbes</i>, August 21, 2024)</li><li>For more on El Salvador’s experience with bitcoin, see “<a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-57398274">Bitcoin: El Salvador makes cryptocurrency legal tender</a>” (BBC, June 9, 2021), “<a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20e3l3xllwo">World’s first Bitcoin nation scales back crypto dream</a>” (BBC, December 18, 2024) and Robyn Wilson’s “<a href="https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20250625-the-beach-town-that-became-a-bitcoin-testbed">The Salvadoran beach town that became a Bitcoin testbed</a>” (BBC, July 1, 2025)</li><li>Nigeria’s central bank digital currency, the eNaira: <a href="https://www.firstbanknigeria.com/personal/ways-to-bank/e-naira/">www.firstbanknigeria.com/personal/ways-to-bank/e-naira/</a></li><li>Tether setting up physical HQ in El Salvador: Federico Maccioni, “<a href="https://www.reuters.com/technology/crypto-firm-tether-its-founders-finalising-move-el-salvador-2025-01-13/">Crypto firm Tether and its founders finalizing move to El Salvador</a>” (Reuters, January 13, 2025)</li><li>For comparison of transaction costs by analyst Eric Yeung, see his April 20, 2025 X post: “<a href="https://x.com/KingKong9888/status/1914081678143767034">The Final Showdown Between China and the U.S.: The Battlefield Shifts from Military Hegemony to Global Currency Warfare</a>.” Yeung is a Hong Kong–based precious metals and investment expert who posts daily analysis on X.</li><li>The GENIUS Act (in full: Guiding and Establishing National Innovation for U.S. Stablecoins Act) became public law in July 2025 to provide for the regulation of payment stablecoins in the United States:<a href="http://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/1582/text"> </a><a href="https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/1582/text">www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/1582/text</a></li><li>“MiCA and the European Union”: see <a href="https://www.esma.europa.eu/esmas-activities/digital-finance-and-innovation/markets-crypto-assets-regulation-mica">Markets in Crypto-Assets Regulation</a></li><li>Daniel Day-Lewis played Daniel Plainview in<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0469494/"> <i>There Will Be Blood</i></a>, a 2007 film based on Upton Sinclair’s 1927 novel <i>Oil!</i></li><li>“The milkshake example”: a reference to Harvard Business School professor “<a href="https://www.library.hbs.edu/working-knowledge/clay-christensens-milkshake-marketing">Clay Christensen’s milkshake marketing</a>,” which considers why we “hire” a product</li></ul><p><strong>Further Reading: </strong></p><ul><li>Ali Abou Daya’s bio:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/aliaboudaya/"> www.linkedin.com/in/aliaboudaya/</a></li><li>About Transactix Financial:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/morvarohani/?originalSubdomain=ca"> </a><a href="https://www.transactix.ca/about">www.transactix.ca/about</a></li><li>Morva Rohani’s bio:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/morvarohani/"> www.linkedin.com/in/morvarohani/</a></li><li>About the Canadian Web3 Council:<a href="https://web3canada.ca/about/"> https://web3canada.ca/about/</a></li><li>For more analysis on the evolving role of digital assets, including central bank digital currencies, cryptocurrencies, stablecoins and tokenized assets, within the broader context of the global financial system, see CIGI’s project<a href="https://www.cigionline.org/activities/digital-assets-in-a-deglobalized-world/"> Digital Assets in a Deglobalized World</a></li></ul><p><strong>Credits:</strong></p><p><i>Policy Prompt</i> is produced by Vass Bednar and Paul Samson. Our supervising producer is Tim Lewis, with technical production by Henry Daemen and Luke McKee. Show notes are prepared by Lynn Schellenberg, social media engagement by Isabel Neufeld, brand design and episode artwork by Abhilasha Dewan and Sami Chouhdary, with creative direction from Som Tsoi. </p><p>Original music by Joshua Snethlage. </p><p>Sound mix and mastering by François Goudreault. </p><p>Be sure to follow us on social media. </p><ul><li>X: <a href="https://x.com/_policyprompt">@_policyprompt</a></li><li>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/cigionline/?hl=en">@cigionline</a></li></ul><p>Listen to new episodes of <i>Policy Prompt</i> on all major podcast platforms. Questions, comments or suggestions? Reach out to CIGI’s <i>Policy Prompt</i> team at info@policyprompt.io. </p><p> </p>
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Together the four consider the digitalization of traditional finance, and the challenges surrounding establishing trust and who controls what.</p><p><strong>Mentioned:</strong></p><ul><li>Blockchain: see CIGI’s explainer video “<a href="https://www.cigionline.org/multimedia/what-blockchain/">What Is Blockchain?</a>” (YouTube, January 4, 2018)</li><li>“In God We Trust” printed on US currency: see<a href="https://www.congress.gov/committee-report/112th-congress/house-report/47/1"> www.congress.gov/committee-report/112th-congress/house-report/47/1</a> and David Mislin, “<a href="https://theconversation.com/the-complex-history-of-in-god-we-trust-91117">The complex history of ‘In God We Trust’</a>” (<i>The Conversation</i>, February 2, 2018)</li><li>“Satoshi” refers to Satoshi Nakamoto, the mysterious pseudonymous author of a 2008 white paper entitled “<a href="https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf">Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System</a>”; see also Joshua Davis, “<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2011/10/10/the-crypto-currency">The Crypto-Currency</a>” (<i>The New Yorker</i>, October 3, 2011)</li><li>“Bitcoin maxis”: Tonya M. Evan defines this term and others in the digital asset lexicon: “<a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/tonyaevans/2024/08/21/the-bitcoin-not-crypto-debate-why-words-matter/">The Bitcoin, Not Crypto, Debate: Why Words Matter</a>” (<i>Forbes</i>, August 21, 2024)</li><li>For more on El Salvador’s experience with bitcoin, see “<a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-57398274">Bitcoin: El Salvador makes cryptocurrency legal tender</a>” (BBC, June 9, 2021), “<a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20e3l3xllwo">World’s first Bitcoin nation scales back crypto dream</a>” (BBC, December 18, 2024) and Robyn Wilson’s “<a href="https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20250625-the-beach-town-that-became-a-bitcoin-testbed">The Salvadoran beach town that became a Bitcoin testbed</a>” (BBC, July 1, 2025)</li><li>Nigeria’s central bank digital currency, the eNaira: <a href="https://www.firstbanknigeria.com/personal/ways-to-bank/e-naira/">www.firstbanknigeria.com/personal/ways-to-bank/e-naira/</a></li><li>Tether setting up physical HQ in El Salvador: Federico Maccioni, “<a href="https://www.reuters.com/technology/crypto-firm-tether-its-founders-finalising-move-el-salvador-2025-01-13/">Crypto firm Tether and its founders finalizing move to El Salvador</a>” (Reuters, January 13, 2025)</li><li>For comparison of transaction costs by analyst Eric Yeung, see his April 20, 2025 X post: “<a href="https://x.com/KingKong9888/status/1914081678143767034">The Final Showdown Between China and the U.S.: The Battlefield Shifts from Military Hegemony to Global Currency Warfare</a>.” Yeung is a Hong Kong–based precious metals and investment expert who posts daily analysis on X.</li><li>The GENIUS Act (in full: Guiding and Establishing National Innovation for U.S. Stablecoins Act) became public law in July 2025 to provide for the regulation of payment stablecoins in the United States:<a href="http://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/1582/text"> </a><a href="https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/1582/text">www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/1582/text</a></li><li>“MiCA and the European Union”: see <a href="https://www.esma.europa.eu/esmas-activities/digital-finance-and-innovation/markets-crypto-assets-regulation-mica">Markets in Crypto-Assets Regulation</a></li><li>Daniel Day-Lewis played Daniel Plainview in<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0469494/"> <i>There Will Be Blood</i></a>, a 2007 film based on Upton Sinclair’s 1927 novel <i>Oil!</i></li><li>“The milkshake example”: a reference to Harvard Business School professor “<a href="https://www.library.hbs.edu/working-knowledge/clay-christensens-milkshake-marketing">Clay Christensen’s milkshake marketing</a>,” which considers why we “hire” a product</li></ul><p><strong>Further Reading: </strong></p><ul><li>Ali Abou Daya’s bio:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/aliaboudaya/"> www.linkedin.com/in/aliaboudaya/</a></li><li>About Transactix Financial:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/morvarohani/?originalSubdomain=ca"> </a><a href="https://www.transactix.ca/about">www.transactix.ca/about</a></li><li>Morva Rohani’s bio:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/morvarohani/"> www.linkedin.com/in/morvarohani/</a></li><li>About the Canadian Web3 Council:<a href="https://web3canada.ca/about/"> https://web3canada.ca/about/</a></li><li>For more analysis on the evolving role of digital assets, including central bank digital currencies, cryptocurrencies, stablecoins and tokenized assets, within the broader context of the global financial system, see CIGI’s project<a href="https://www.cigionline.org/activities/digital-assets-in-a-deglobalized-world/"> Digital Assets in a Deglobalized World</a></li></ul><p><strong>Credits:</strong></p><p><i>Policy Prompt</i> is produced by Vass Bednar and Paul Samson. Our supervising producer is Tim Lewis, with technical production by Henry Daemen and Luke McKee. Show notes are prepared by Lynn Schellenberg, social media engagement by Isabel Neufeld, brand design and episode artwork by Abhilasha Dewan and Sami Chouhdary, with creative direction from Som Tsoi. </p><p>Original music by Joshua Snethlage. </p><p>Sound mix and mastering by François Goudreault. </p><p>Be sure to follow us on social media. </p><ul><li>X: <a href="https://x.com/_policyprompt">@_policyprompt</a></li><li>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/cigionline/?hl=en">@cigionline</a></li></ul><p>Listen to new episodes of <i>Policy Prompt</i> on all major podcast platforms. Questions, comments or suggestions? Reach out to CIGI’s <i>Policy Prompt</i> team at info@policyprompt.io. </p><p> </p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In episode 16, hosts Vass and Paul talk to Marc Levinson — economist, historian and author of<a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691170817/the-box"> <i>The Box: How the Shipping Container Made the World Smaller and the World Economy Bigger</i></a>, published in 2016, and the follow-up,<a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691227092/outside-the-box"> <i>Outside the Box: How Globalization Changed from Moving Stuff to Spreading Ideas</i></a><i> </i>(both Princeton University Press)<i>. </i></p><p>Marc brings to life a topic freighted with importance but often out of mind: how an innovation involving the shipping container, 200 years in the making, transformed economic geography and the transport of cargo around the globe. The three discuss, as well, the current challenges in figuring out the value of international trade that is unpackaged and, so far, not well accounted for — exchange in services, ideas and intangibles, of increasing significance in the global economy.</p><p><strong>Mentioned:</strong></p><ul><li>The giant container ship <i>Ever Given</i>:<a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-56516151"> “In pictures: Container ship blocking the Suez Canal finally on the move”</a> (BBC, March 29, 2021)</li><li>“Gambler” Malcolm McLean, featured in the PBS series <i>They Made America</i>:<a href="https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/theymadeamerica/whomade/mclean_hi.html"> www.pbs.org/wgbh/theymadeamerica/whomade/mclean_hi.html</a></li><li>The BBC’s “The Box” project:<a href="https://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/business/2008/the_box/default.stm"> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/business/2008/the_box/default.stm</a></li></ul><p><strong>Further Reading: </strong></p><ul><li>Marc Levinson’s bio: <a href="https://www.marclevinson.net/?page_id=10">www.marclevinson.net/?page_id=10</a></li><li>Marc Levinson’s website:<a href="https://www.marclevinson.net/"> www.marclevinson.net/</a></li><li>Marc Levinson,<a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691170817/the-box"> <i>The Box: How the Shipping Container Made the World Smaller and the World Economy Bigger</i></a><i>, </i>2nd<i> </i>edition<i> </i>(Princeton University Press, 2016)</li><li>Marc Levinson,<a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691191768/outside-the-box"> <i>Outside the Box: How Globalization Changed from Moving Stuff to Spreading Ideas</i></a> (Princeton University Press, 2020)</li></ul><p><strong>Credits:</strong><br /><i>Policy Prompt</i> is produced by Vass Bednar and Paul Samson. Our technical producers are Tim Lewis and Melanie DeBonte. Fact-checking and background research provided by Reanne Cayenne. Marketing by Kahlan Thomson. Brand design by Abhilasha Dewan and creative direction by Som Tsoi.</p><p>Original music by Joshua Snethlage.</p><p>Sound mix and mastering by François Goudreault.</p><p>Special thanks to creative consultant Ken Ogasawara.</p><p>Be sure to follow us on social media.</p><ul><li>X: <a href="https://x.com/_policyprompt">@_policyprompt</a></li><li>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_policyprompt">@_policyprompt</a><br /> </li></ul><p>Listen to new episodes of <i>Policy Prompt</i> biweekly on major podcast platforms. Questions, comments or suggestions? Reach out to CIGI’s <i>Policy Prompt</i> team at <a href="mailto:info@policyprompt.io">info@policyprompt.io</a>.</p>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In episode 16, hosts Vass and Paul talk to Marc Levinson — economist, historian and author of<a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691170817/the-box"> <i>The Box: How the Shipping Container Made the World Smaller and the World Economy Bigger</i></a>, published in 2016, and the follow-up,<a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691227092/outside-the-box"> <i>Outside the Box: How Globalization Changed from Moving Stuff to Spreading Ideas</i></a><i> </i>(both Princeton University Press)<i>. </i></p><p>Marc brings to life a topic freighted with importance but often out of mind: how an innovation involving the shipping container, 200 years in the making, transformed economic geography and the transport of cargo around the globe. The three discuss, as well, the current challenges in figuring out the value of international trade that is unpackaged and, so far, not well accounted for — exchange in services, ideas and intangibles, of increasing significance in the global economy.</p><p><strong>Mentioned:</strong></p><ul><li>The giant container ship <i>Ever Given</i>:<a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-56516151"> “In pictures: Container ship blocking the Suez Canal finally on the move”</a> (BBC, March 29, 2021)</li><li>“Gambler” Malcolm McLean, featured in the PBS series <i>They Made America</i>:<a href="https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/theymadeamerica/whomade/mclean_hi.html"> www.pbs.org/wgbh/theymadeamerica/whomade/mclean_hi.html</a></li><li>The BBC’s “The Box” project:<a href="https://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/business/2008/the_box/default.stm"> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/business/2008/the_box/default.stm</a></li></ul><p><strong>Further Reading: </strong></p><ul><li>Marc Levinson’s bio: <a href="https://www.marclevinson.net/?page_id=10">www.marclevinson.net/?page_id=10</a></li><li>Marc Levinson’s website:<a href="https://www.marclevinson.net/"> www.marclevinson.net/</a></li><li>Marc Levinson,<a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691170817/the-box"> <i>The Box: How the Shipping Container Made the World Smaller and the World Economy Bigger</i></a><i>, </i>2nd<i> </i>edition<i> </i>(Princeton University Press, 2016)</li><li>Marc Levinson,<a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691191768/outside-the-box"> <i>Outside the Box: How Globalization Changed from Moving Stuff to Spreading Ideas</i></a> (Princeton University Press, 2020)</li></ul><p><strong>Credits:</strong><br /><i>Policy Prompt</i> is produced by Vass Bednar and Paul Samson. Our technical producers are Tim Lewis and Melanie DeBonte. Fact-checking and background research provided by Reanne Cayenne. Marketing by Kahlan Thomson. Brand design by Abhilasha Dewan and creative direction by Som Tsoi.</p><p>Original music by Joshua Snethlage.</p><p>Sound mix and mastering by François Goudreault.</p><p>Special thanks to creative consultant Ken Ogasawara.</p><p>Be sure to follow us on social media.</p><ul><li>X: <a href="https://x.com/_policyprompt">@_policyprompt</a></li><li>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_policyprompt">@_policyprompt</a><br /> </li></ul><p>Listen to new episodes of <i>Policy Prompt</i> biweekly on major podcast platforms. Questions, comments or suggestions? Reach out to CIGI’s <i>Policy Prompt</i> team at <a href="mailto:info@policyprompt.io">info@policyprompt.io</a>.</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>How do you discover music? College radio, word of mouth, serendipity — or your very own AI DJ? In 2006, Spotify’s founders discovered music as “a traffic source” for an advertising model, and have since transformed the music industry. But what are their goals or values when it comes to music and culture beyond the pursuit of profit, and what does it mean for musicians and music lovers? And why aren’t policy makers more concerned about this mega platform?</p><p>In this episode of <i>Policy Prompt</i>, hosts Vass and Paul welcome Liz Pelly, music and media critic, and the author of<a href="https://www.simonandschuster.ca/books/Mood-Machine/Liz-Pelly/9781668083505"> <i>Mood Machine: The Rise of Spotify and the Costs of the Perfect Playlist</i></a> (Atria, 2025). Together they chat about how we’ve consumed our music over the years, <i>and</i> how it’s been fed to us, from the “stimulus progression” of Muzak’s elevator tunes to the “mood-driven logic” of Spotify’s algorithmic curation.</p><p><strong>In-Show Clips:</strong></p><ul><li>00:12:57: AFP News Agency, “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa5KrJF_efo">Sweden’s Pirate Party aims for kingmaker spot</a>” (YouTube, March 26, 2010)</li><li>00:18:34: CNBC Television: “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Jf_6lCP6_0">Spotify is the platform for artists who want to break globally, says Evercore ISI’s Mark Mahaney</a>” (YouTube, November 12, 2024)</li></ul><p><strong>Mentioned:</strong></p><ul><li>Muzak’s archives and the concept of “stimulus progression”: see<a href="https://muzakarchives.com/"> https://muzakarchives.com/</a> and <a href="https://muzakarchives.com/stimulus-progression/">https://muzakarchives.com/stimulus-progression/</a></li><li>Big Shiny Tariffs (public playlist): <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/56kKurRKQmJnhJgvq9pSV5">https://open.spotify.com/playlist/56kKurRKQmJnhJgvq9pSV5</a></li><li>Big Shiny Tunes:<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Shiny_Tunes"> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Shiny_Tunes</a></li><li>Canada’s Online Streaming Act (Bill C-11): <a href="http://www.canada.ca/en/canadian-heritage/services/modernization-broadcasting-act.html">www.canada.ca/en/canadian-heritage/services/modernization-broadcasting-act.html</a></li><li>Songza: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songza">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songza</a></li><li>Rhapsody/Napster: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napster_(streaming_service)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napster_(streaming_service)</a></li><li>“Pirate Bay”/Piratbyrån: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piratbyr%C3%A5n">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piratbyr%C3%A5n</a></li><li>Living Wage for Musicians Act of 2024: <a href="http://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/7763">www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/7763</a></li><li>Federal Music Project: <a href="http://www.wnyc.org/series/works-progress-administration/about">www.wnyc.org/series/works-progress-administration/about</a></li><li><a href="https://musiciansunion.org.uk/about-the-mu">The Musicians’ Union</a>: a trade union representing more than 36,000 musicians across the United Kingdom working in all sectors of the music business and supporter of the<a href="https://www.musicianscensus.co.uk/"> Musicians’ Census</a></li><li>Public Knowledge’s Streaming in the Dark project: see their<a href="https://publicknowledge.org/policy/streaming-in-the-dark-explainer-video/"> video explainer</a> and the 2024<a href="https://publicknowledge.org/policy/streaming-in-the-dark-competitive-dysfunction-within-the-music-streaming-ecosystem/"> paper</a> by Meredith Filak Rose, “Streaming in the Dark: Competitive Dysfunction Within the Music Streaming Ecosystem” (<i>Berkeley Journal of Entertainment and Sports Law</i> 13 (1): 23–66)</li><li>“Edmonton Public Library’s first digital public space, created to celebrate Edmonton’s local music scene and its history”: see<a href="https://capitalcityrecords.ca/"> https://capitalcityrecords.ca/</a> and<a href="https://capitalcityrecords.ca/albums"> https://capitalcityrecords.ca/albums</a></li></ul><p><strong>Further Reading: </strong></p><ul><li>Liz Pelly’s bio: <a href="https://lizpelly.info/">https://lizpelly.info/</a></li><li>Liz Pelly,<a href="https://www.simonandschuster.ca/books/Mood-Machine/Liz-Pelly/9781668083505"><i> Mood Machine: The Rise of Spotify and the Costs of the Perfect Playlist</i></a> (Atria, 2025)</li></ul><p><strong>Credits:</strong><br /><i>Policy Prompt</i> is produced by Vass Bednar and Paul Samson. Our technical producers are Tim Lewis and Melanie DeBonte. Fact-checking and background research provided by Reanne Cayenne. Marketing by Kahlan Thomson. Brand design by Abhilasha Dewan and creative direction by Som Tsoi.</p><p>Original music by Joshua Snethlage.</p><p>Sound mix and mastering by François Goudreault.</p><p>Special thanks to creative consultant Ken Ogasawara.</p><p>Be sure to follow us on social media.</p><ul><li>X:<a href="https://x.com/_policyprompt"> @_policyprompt</a></li><li>IG:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/_policyprompt"> @_policyprompt</a></li></ul><p>Listen to new episodes of <i>Policy Prompt</i> biweekly on major podcast platforms. Questions, comments or suggestions? Reach out to CIGI’s <i>Policy Prompt</i> team at <a href="mailto:info@policyprompt.io">info@policyprompt.io</a>.</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>What does innovation actually mean, and how should we be thinking about it?</p><p>In this episode, Vass and Paul welcome Joel Blit, an expert in innovation and innovation policy. Joel is a senior fellow at CIGI, and an associate professor of economics at the University of Waterloo, where he chairs the Council for Innovation Policy and Strategy. They discuss the mix of art and science that comprises innovation, the tensions surrounding it, and the different approaches — inside and outside the academy — that Canada and other jurisdictions are experimenting with to best generate and capture commercial and societal benefits from emerging technologies, in particular artificial intelligence. </p><p><strong>In-Show Clips</strong>:</p><ul><li>00:06:26: TVO Today,<a href="https://youtu.be/VoTFHA402nI"> “Evaluating Performance-based Funding”</a> (YouTube, October 3, 2019)</li><li>00:46:40: BBC News,<a href="https://youtu.be/VoTFHA402nI"> </a><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn6ptv0zWZ4">“How could AI affect jobs globally and worsen inequality?”</a> (YouTube, January 15, 2024)</li></ul><p><strong>Mentioned:</strong></p><ul><li>“Sigma 2” in education: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloom%27s_2_sigma_problem">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloom%27s_2_sigma_problem</a></li></ul><p><strong>Further Reading: </strong></p><ul><li>Joel Blit’s bio: <a href="https://uwaterloo.ca/scholar/jblit">https://uwaterloo.ca/scholar/jblit</a></li></ul><p><strong>Credits:</strong><br /><i>Policy Prompt</i> is produced by Vass Bednar and Paul Samson. Our technical producers are Tim Lewis and Melanie DeBonte. Fact-checking and background research provided by Reanne Cayenne. Marketing by Kahlan Thomson. Brand design by Abhilasha Dewan and creative direction by Som Tsoi.</p><p>Original music by Joshua Snethlage.</p><p>Sound mix and mastering by François Goudreault.</p><p>Special thanks to creative consultant Ken Ogasawara.</p><p>Be sure to follow us on social media.</p><ul><li>X: <a href="https://x.com/_policyprompt">@_policyprompt</a></li><li>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_policyprompt">@_policyprompt</a><br /> </li></ul><p>Listen to new episodes of <i>Policy Prompt</i> biweekly on major podcast platforms. Questions, comments or suggestions? Reach out to CIGI’s <i>Policy Prompt</i> team at <a href="mailto:info@policyprompt.io">info@policyprompt.io</a>.</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>AI is going to affect us all and everyone has opinions about it. But what does the data say?</p><p>In this episode of Policy Prompt, Vass and Paul welcome Nestor Maslej from Stanford University’s Institute for Human-Centered Artificial Intelligence, where he is the research manager of the AI Index and the Global AI Vibrancy Tool. In developing tools that track the advancement of AI, Nestor hopes to make the AI space more accessible to policy makers, business leaders and the lay public. Nestor discusses the excitement and fears surrounding this fast-moving technology and the importance of quantitative data in AI myth busting. “At the Index, we really feel that to make good decisions about this tech, whether you are in a boardroom, in a Parliament, or simply sitting in your living room, you need to have access to data and you have to actually understand what is going on with this technology.”</p><p><strong>In-Show Clips</strong>:</p><ul><li>00:10:55: CNBC, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEBiebbeNCA" target="_blank">“How China’s New AI Model DeepSeek Is Threatening U.S. Dominance”</a> (YouTube, January 24, 2025)</li><li>00:30:11: Yahoo Finance, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFfB3zzdMNo" target="_blank">“What is the CHIPS act? The semiconductor bill with bipartisan support (and criticism)”</a> (YouTube, July 20, 2022)</li><li>00:41:07: The AI Navigator, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMpomvoHPp4" target="_blank">“What is Jevons Paradox and how could it apply to AI?”</a> (YouTube, May 2, 2024)</li></ul><p><strong>Mentioned:</strong></p><ul><li>The Stanford Institute for Human-Centered AI: <a href="https://hai.stanford.edu/about">https://hai.stanford.edu/about</a></li><li>The Stanford AI Index: <a href="https://hai.stanford.edu/ai-index">https://hai.stanford.edu/ai-index</a></li><li>The Stanford Global AI Vibrancy Tool: <a href="https://hai.stanford.edu/ai-index/global-vibrancy-tool">https://hai.stanford.edu/ai-index/global-vibrancy-tool</a></li><li>Jevons paradox: Greg Rosalsky, <a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/planet-money/2025/02/04/g-s1-46018/ai-deepseek-economics-jevons-paradox" target="_blank">“Why the AI world is suddenly obsessed with a 160-year-old economics paradox”</a> (NPR, February 4, 2025)</li></ul><p><strong>Further Reading:</strong></p><ul><li>Nestor Maslej’s bio: <a href="https://profiles.stanford.edu/nestor-maslej">https://profiles.stanford.edu/nestor-maslej</a></li><li>Nestor Maslej, Loredana Fattorini, Raymond Perrault, Vanessa Parli, Anka Reuel, Erik Brynjolfsson, John Etchemendy, Katrina Ligett, Terah * Lyons, James Manyika, Juan Carlos Niebles, Yoav Shoham, Russell Wald and Jack Clark, <a href="https://hai.stanford.edu/ai-index/2024-ai-index-report" target="_blank">Artificial Intelligence Index Report 2024</a> (Stanford, CA: Institute for Human-Centered AI, Stanford University, April 2024)</li></ul><p><strong>Credits:</strong><br /><i>Policy Prompt</i> is produced by Vass Bednar and Paul Samson. Our technical producers are Tim Lewis and Melanie DeBonte. Fact-checking and background research provided by Reanne Cayenne. Marketing by Kahlan Thomson. Brand design by Abhilasha Dewan and creative direction by Som Tsoi.</p><p>Original music by Joshua Snethlage.</p><p>Sound mix and mastering by François Goudreault.</p><p>Special thanks to creative consultant Ken Ogasawara.</p><p>Be sure to follow us on social media.</p><ul><li>X: <a href="https://x.com/_policyprompt">@_policyprompt</a></li><li>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_policyprompt">@_policyprompt</a></li></ul><p>Listen to new episodes of <i>Policy Prompt</i> biweekly on major podcast platforms. Questions, comments or suggestions? Reach out to CIGI’s <i>Policy Prompt</i> team at <a href="mailto:info@policyprompt.io">info@policyprompt.io</a>.</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In episode 12, artist and thinker Amanda Wasielewski joins hosts Vass and Paul to discuss the crossover and interplay between digital and capital-A art.</p><p>Amanda, an associate senior lecturer of digital humanities and associate professor (docent) of art history in the Department of Archives, Libraries, and Museums at Uppsala University in Sweden, has exhibited her artwork internationally and recently published the monograph <a href="https://direct.mit.edu/books/oa-monograph/5587/Computational-FormalismArt-History-and-Machine"><i>Computational Formalism: Art History and Machine Learning</i></a> (MIT Press, 2023) and co-edited <a href="https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/distributed/C/bo238312654.html"><i>Critical Digital Art History: Interface and Data Politics in the Post-Digital Era</i></a>, with Anna Näslund (University of Chicago Press, 2024). Amanda brings her art historian perspective to questions of data politics, including categorization, authentication, nuances lost in automation, the need to be able to see data sets, and both the fears and artistic potential surrounding generative technologies.</p><p><strong>In-Show Clips:</strong></p><ul><li>00:08:12: Rakutentech, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf0MAVhaDcw">“Computer Vision — The Now & The Future — Rakuten Technology Conference 2019”</a> (YouTube, December 25, 2019)</li><li>00:11:14: SamDoesArts, “<a href="https://youtu.be/5Viy3Cu3DLk?feature=shared&t=84">Why Artists are Fed Up with AI Art”</a> (YouTube, December 24, 2022)</li><li>00:22:48: Watchseenart, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OjXiJb0iu9o">“Is Damien Hirst Sloppy or Suspicious?”</a> (YouTube Short, March 21, 2024)</li><li>00:49:56: The IT Crowd, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALZZx1xmAzg">“Series 2 — Episode 3: Piracy warning”</a> (YouTube, March 18, 2009), parody of the original 2004 <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-pYiWGSN8w"></a>Motion Picture Association ad <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-pYiWGSN8w">“You Wouldn’t Steal a Car”</a> posted by HelloImAPizza (YouTube, October 3, 2022)</li><li>01:00:42: <i>The Wall Street Journal</i>, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAUpxN-EIgU">“OpenAI’s Sora Made Me Crazy AI Videos — Then the CTO Answered (Most of) My Questions”</a> (YouTube, March 13, 2024)<br /></li></ul><p><strong>Mentioned:</strong></p><ul><li>Artist Jack Bishop: <a href="https://jackbishop.ca/auto-plein-air">https://jackbishop.ca/</a></li><li>More about the Group of Seven: <a href="http://www.gallery.ca/whats-on/exhibitions-and-galleries/experience-the-group-of-seven-at-the-gallery">www.gallery.ca/whats-on/exhibitions-and-galleries/experience-the-group-of-seven-at-the-gallery</a></li><li>On controversy surrounding dating of works by Damien Hirst: <a href="https://www.artandobject.com/news/dating-discrepancy-damien-hirsts-formaldehyde-works-rocks-art-world">“Dating Discrepancy in Damien Hirst’s Formaldehyde Work Rocks Art World”</a> by Rebecca Schiffman, <i>Art & Object</i>, March 25, 2024</li><li>On “the famous case, which is still unresolved, of the painting of Christ…said to be of Da Vinci, but then said not to be”: <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/article/2024/aug/24/salvator-mundi-saudi-arabia-and-the-saga-of-the-missing-masterpiece">“Salvator Mundi, Saudi Arabia and the saga of the missing masterpiece”</a> by Vanessa Thorpe, <i>The Guardian</i>, August 24, 2024</li><li>On “this famous paper…which proposed a technique called StyleGAN, which was replicated on the website <a href="https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/">ThisPersonDoesNotExist.com</a>”: <a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/1912.04958">“Analyzing and Improving the Image Qualityof StyleGAN”</a> by Tero Karras, Samuli Laine, Miika Aittala, Janne Hellsten, Jaakko Lehtinen and Timo Aila, preprint, <i>arXiv</i>, March 23, 2020</li><li>Kate Crawford and Trevor Paglen, ImageNet Roulette project: <a href="https://paglen.studio/2020/04/29/imagenet-roulette/">https://paglen.studio/2020/04/29/imagenet-roulette/</a><br /></li></ul><p><strong>Further Reading:</strong> </p><ul><li>Amanda Wasielewski’s website: <a href="https://www.amandawasielewski.com/">www.amandawasielewski.com/</a></li><li>Amanda Wasielewski, <a href="https://www.collectiveinkbooks.com/zer0-books/our-books/made-brooklyn"><i>Made in Brooklyn: Artists, Hipsters, Makers, Gentrifiers</i></a> (Zero Books, 2018)</li><li>Amanda Wasielewski, <a href="https://direct.mit.edu/books/oa-monograph/5587/Computational-FormalismArt-History-and-Machine"><i>Computational Formalism: Art History and Machine Learning</i></a> (MIT Press, 2023)</li><li>“Next book out this fall”: Since this episode was recorded, Amanda Wasielewski and Anna Naslund’s co-edited book <a href="https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/distributed/C/bo238312654.html"><i>Critical Digital Art History: Interface and Data Politics in the Post-Digital Era</i></a> has been released, published by University of Chicago Press in November 2024<br /></li></ul><p><strong>Credits:</strong><br /><i>Policy Prompt</i> is produced by Vass Bednar and Paul Samson. Our technical producers are Tim Lewis and Melanie DeBonte. Fact-checking and background research provided by Reanne Cayenne. Marketing by Kahlan Thomson. Brand design by Abhilasha Dewan and creative direction by Som Tsoi.</p><p>Original music by Joshua Snethlage.</p><p>Sound mix and mastering by François Goudreault.</p><p>Special thanks to creative consultant Ken Ogasawara.</p><p>Be sure to follow us on social media.</p><ul><li>X: <a href="https://x.com/_policyprompt">@_policyprompt</a></li><li>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_policyprompt">@_policyprompt</a><br /></li></ul><p>Listen to new episodes of <i>Policy Prompt</i> biweekly on major podcast platforms. Questions, comments or suggestions? Reach out to CIGI’s <i>Policy Prompt</i> team at <a href="mailto:info@policyprompt.io">info@policyprompt.io</a>.</p>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In episode 12, artist and thinker Amanda Wasielewski joins hosts Vass and Paul to discuss the crossover and interplay between digital and capital-A art.</p><p>Amanda, an associate senior lecturer of digital humanities and associate professor (docent) of art history in the Department of Archives, Libraries, and Museums at Uppsala University in Sweden, has exhibited her artwork internationally and recently published the monograph <a href="https://direct.mit.edu/books/oa-monograph/5587/Computational-FormalismArt-History-and-Machine"><i>Computational Formalism: Art History and Machine Learning</i></a> (MIT Press, 2023) and co-edited <a href="https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/distributed/C/bo238312654.html"><i>Critical Digital Art History: Interface and Data Politics in the Post-Digital Era</i></a>, with Anna Näslund (University of Chicago Press, 2024). 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Our technical producers are Tim Lewis and Melanie DeBonte. Fact-checking and background research provided by Reanne Cayenne. Marketing by Kahlan Thomson. Brand design by Abhilasha Dewan and creative direction by Som Tsoi.</p><p>Original music by Joshua Snethlage.</p><p>Sound mix and mastering by François Goudreault.</p><p>Special thanks to creative consultant Ken Ogasawara.</p><p>Be sure to follow us on social media.</p><ul><li>X: <a href="https://x.com/_policyprompt">@_policyprompt</a></li><li>IG: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_policyprompt">@_policyprompt</a><br /></li></ul><p>Listen to new episodes of <i>Policy Prompt</i> biweekly on major podcast platforms. Questions, comments or suggestions? Reach out to CIGI’s <i>Policy Prompt</i> team at <a href="mailto:info@policyprompt.io">info@policyprompt.io</a>.</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Warren Buffett once said he would rather trust his money to monkeys throwing darts than financial advisers. So how do the monkeys’ chances of hitting the target stack up against those of, say, pollsters, Magic 8 Balls or star charts? Maybe the monkeys have practised.</p><p>Meet Robert de Neufville, who is super at forecasting: someone whose predictions have proved far more accurate than regular forecasting and regularly outperform intelligence analysts’. Robert holds degrees in government and political science from Harvard and Berkeley, co-hosts the <a href="https://nonprophetspod.wordpress.com/"><i>NonProphets: (Super)forecasting Podcast</i></a> and has extensive experience in analyzing existential risk. Robert and hosts Vass and Paul discuss everything from Buffett’s monkeys and <i>Moneyball</i> to the importance of parking your biases, knowing what to research and the difference between hype and meaningful signal, to the value of expertise, new things to worry about and the need to stay skeptical.</p><p><strong>Mentioned:</strong></p><ul><li><i>NonProphets (Super)forecasting Podcast </i>by superforecasters Atief Heermance, Robert de Neufville and Scott Eastman: <a href="https://nonprophetspod.wordpress.com/">https://nonprophetspod.wordpress.com/</a></li><li>For more on Elaine Rich and the Good Judgment Project, see Alix Spiegel on <i>Morning Edition</i>, <a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2014/04/02/297839429/-so-you-think-youre-smarter-than-a-cia-agent">“So You Think You’re Smarter Than A CIA Agent”</a> (NPR, April 2, 2014)</li><li>Philip E. Tetlock, one of the founders of Good Judgment, author of<a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691175973/expert-political-judgment"> <i>Expert Political Judgment: How Good Is It? How Can We Know?</i></a>, 2nd ed. (Princeton University Press, 2017)</li><li>Scholar Barbara Mellers: see, for example, “Human and Algorithmic Predictions in Geopolitical Forecasting: Quantifying Uncertainty in Hard-to-Quantify Domains” by Mellers, John P. McCoy, Louise Lu and Philip E. Tetlock, 2024, <i>Perspectives on Psychological Science </i>19 (5), <a href="https://doi.org/10.1177/17456916231185339">https://doi.org/10.1177/17456916231185339</a></li><li>Swedish Defence Research Agency’s crowd forecasting site Glimt: <a href="https://glimt.nu/glimt/en/welcome.html">https://glimt.nu/glimt/en/welcome.html</a></li><li>Brier score: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brier_score">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brier_score</a></li></ul><p><strong>Further Reading: </strong></p><ul><li>Robert de Neufville’s bio: <a href="https://goodjudgment.com/about/our-team/superforecaster-profiles/robert-de-neufville/">https://goodjudgment.com/about/our-team/superforecaster-profiles/robert-de-neufville/</a></li><li>Robert de Neufville’s <i>Telling the Future</i> Substack: <a href="https://tellingthefuture.substack.com/about">https://tellingthefuture.substack.com/about</a></li><li>For more on IARPA (Intelligence Advance Research Projects Activity) and the massive supercasting tournament it launched in 2011, see: <a href="https://goodjudgment.com/common-questions-good-judgment-superforecasters/">https://goodjudgment.com/common-questions-good-judgment-superforecasters/</a></li></ul><p><strong>Credits:</strong><br /><i>Policy Prompt</i> is produced by Vass Bednar and Paul Samson. Our technical producers are Tim Lewis and Melanie DeBonte. Fact-checking and background research provided by Reanne Cayenne. Marketing by Kahlan Thomson. Brand design by Abhilasha Dewan and creative direction by Som Tsoi.</p><p>Original music by Joshua Snethlage.</p><p>Sound mix and mastering by François Goudreault.</p><p>Special thanks to creative consultant Ken Ogasawara.</p><p>Be sure to follow us on social media.</p><ul><li>X:<a href="https://x.com/_policyprompt"> @_policyprompt</a></li><li>IG:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/_policyprompt"> @_policyprompt</a></li></ul><p>Listen to new episodes of <i>Policy Prompt</i> biweekly on major podcast platforms. Questions, comments or suggestions? Reach out to CIGI’s <i>Policy Prompt</i> team at info@policyprompt.io.</p>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warren Buffett once said he would rather trust his money to monkeys throwing darts than financial advisers. So how do the monkeys’ chances of hitting the target stack up against those of, say, pollsters, Magic 8 Balls or star charts? Maybe the monkeys have practised.</p><p>Meet Robert de Neufville, who is super at forecasting: someone whose predictions have proved far more accurate than regular forecasting and regularly outperform intelligence analysts’. Robert holds degrees in government and political science from Harvard and Berkeley, co-hosts the <a href="https://nonprophetspod.wordpress.com/"><i>NonProphets: (Super)forecasting Podcast</i></a> and has extensive experience in analyzing existential risk. Robert and hosts Vass and Paul discuss everything from Buffett’s monkeys and <i>Moneyball</i> to the importance of parking your biases, knowing what to research and the difference between hype and meaningful signal, to the value of expertise, new things to worry about and the need to stay skeptical.</p><p><strong>Mentioned:</strong></p><ul><li><i>NonProphets (Super)forecasting Podcast </i>by superforecasters Atief Heermance, Robert de Neufville and Scott Eastman: <a href="https://nonprophetspod.wordpress.com/">https://nonprophetspod.wordpress.com/</a></li><li>For more on Elaine Rich and the Good Judgment Project, see Alix Spiegel on <i>Morning Edition</i>, <a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2014/04/02/297839429/-so-you-think-youre-smarter-than-a-cia-agent">“So You Think You’re Smarter Than A CIA Agent”</a> (NPR, April 2, 2014)</li><li>Philip E. Tetlock, one of the founders of Good Judgment, author of<a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691175973/expert-political-judgment"> <i>Expert Political Judgment: How Good Is It? How Can We Know?</i></a>, 2nd ed. (Princeton University Press, 2017)</li><li>Scholar Barbara Mellers: see, for example, “Human and Algorithmic Predictions in Geopolitical Forecasting: Quantifying Uncertainty in Hard-to-Quantify Domains” by Mellers, John P. McCoy, Louise Lu and Philip E. Tetlock, 2024, <i>Perspectives on Psychological Science </i>19 (5), <a href="https://doi.org/10.1177/17456916231185339">https://doi.org/10.1177/17456916231185339</a></li><li>Swedish Defence Research Agency’s crowd forecasting site Glimt: <a href="https://glimt.nu/glimt/en/welcome.html">https://glimt.nu/glimt/en/welcome.html</a></li><li>Brier score: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brier_score">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brier_score</a></li></ul><p><strong>Further Reading: </strong></p><ul><li>Robert de Neufville’s bio: <a href="https://goodjudgment.com/about/our-team/superforecaster-profiles/robert-de-neufville/">https://goodjudgment.com/about/our-team/superforecaster-profiles/robert-de-neufville/</a></li><li>Robert de Neufville’s <i>Telling the Future</i> Substack: <a href="https://tellingthefuture.substack.com/about">https://tellingthefuture.substack.com/about</a></li><li>For more on IARPA (Intelligence Advance Research Projects Activity) and the massive supercasting tournament it launched in 2011, see: <a href="https://goodjudgment.com/common-questions-good-judgment-superforecasters/">https://goodjudgment.com/common-questions-good-judgment-superforecasters/</a></li></ul><p><strong>Credits:</strong><br /><i>Policy Prompt</i> is produced by Vass Bednar and Paul Samson. Our technical producers are Tim Lewis and Melanie DeBonte. Fact-checking and background research provided by Reanne Cayenne. Marketing by Kahlan Thomson. Brand design by Abhilasha Dewan and creative direction by Som Tsoi.</p><p>Original music by Joshua Snethlage.</p><p>Sound mix and mastering by François Goudreault.</p><p>Special thanks to creative consultant Ken Ogasawara.</p><p>Be sure to follow us on social media.</p><ul><li>X:<a href="https://x.com/_policyprompt"> @_policyprompt</a></li><li>IG:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/_policyprompt"> @_policyprompt</a></li></ul><p>Listen to new episodes of <i>Policy Prompt</i> biweekly on major podcast platforms. Questions, comments or suggestions? Reach out to CIGI’s <i>Policy Prompt</i> team at info@policyprompt.io.</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Join hosts Vass and Paul for their fascinating conversation with Michael Richardson, associate professor of media and culture at the University of New South Wales in Sydney, Australia, about the ideas in his book <a href="https://read.dukeupress.edu/books/book/3310/Nonhuman-WitnessingWar-Data-and-Ecology-after-the"><i>Nonhuman Witnessing: War, Data, and Ecology after the End of the World</i></a> (Duke University Press, 2024). Michael explores the ethical and political implications of witnessing in an age of profound instability, and how our ways of making knowledge and experiencing the world are being mediated in fundamental ways by nonhuman systems — from the embodiment of history, trauma and change in animals and natural landscapes, to the “immediately computational” witnessing by technologies such as surveillance cameras and artificial intelligence.</p><p><strong>Mentioned:</strong></p><ul><li>Potawatomi scholar Kyle Whyte:<a href="https://seas.umich.edu/research/faculty/kyle-whyte"> https://seas.umich.edu/research/faculty/kyle-whyte</a></li><li>Mario Blaser and Marisol de la Cadena, editors,<a href="https://journals.kent.ac.uk/index.php/transmotion/article/view/902/1777"> <i>A World of Many Worlds</i></a> (Duke University Press, 2018)</li><li>Future of Life Institute: “Slaughterbots are here” (https://autonomousweapons.org/)</li><li>“The infamous COMPAS [Correctional Offender Management Profiling for Alternative Sanctions] sentencing software”: see “Code is law: how COMPAS affects the way the judiciary handles the risk of recidivism,” by Christoph Engel, Lorenz Linhardt and Marcel Schubert, <i>Artificial Intelligence and Law</i>, February 2004, <a href="https://doi.org/10.1007/s10506-024-09389-8">https://doi.org/10.1007/s10506-024-09389-8</a></li><li>Australian Research Council Centre of Excellence on Automated Decision-Making and Society: www.admscentre.org.au/</li></ul><p><strong>In-Show Clips:</strong></p><ul><li>7:17: NDPVIDEO: “<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sui1K-NJ6rI">Jack Layton on reckless economic policies</a>” (YouTube, December 3, 2009)</li><li>14:57: Center for Puerto Rican Studies: “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYfsNMrUDjE">Bridging the Divides: Apocalypse and Indigenizing Futures</a>” featuring Yomaira Figueroa-Vásquez and Kyle Powys Whyte (YouTube, February 1, 2024)</li><li>18:48: ABC News In-depth: “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOUID754K8U">One year on, ABC News looks back at how Australia’s Black Summer bushfire crisis unfolded</a>” (YouTube, January 1, 2021)</li><li>21:58: <i>Overthink</i> Podcast, “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKSr_p0dNOY">Thinking with the pluriverse: a conversation with Mario Blaser</a>” (YouTube, October 24, 2023)</li><li>49:22: <i>The Wall Street Journal</i>: “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCjlokSzlKY">Valkyrie: This Autonomous AI Drone Could Be the Military’s Next Weapon</a>” (YouTube, October 7, 2023)</li><li>51:12: Future of Life Institute: “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rDo1QxI260">Slaughterbots — if human: kill()</a>” (YouTube, November 30, 2021)</li><li>1:02:20: <a href="https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/committee-activity/hearings/ai-in-criminal-investigations-and-prosecutions">Testimony of witness Rebecca Wexler</a>, Assistant Professor of Law, UC Berkeley School of Law, US Senate Committee on the Judiciary, Subcommittee on Criminal Justice and Counterterorism hearing “AI in Criminal Investigations and Prosecutions” (January 24, 2024)</li><li>1:03:14: WITNESS: “<a href="https://www.witness.org/sam-gregory-testifies-in-us-house-hearing-on-preparing-for-deepfakes/">WITNESS’ Sam Gregory testifies in US House hearing on how we can inclusively prepare for deepfakes</a>” (YouTube, November 8, 2023)</li></ul><p><strong>Further Reading: </strong></p><ul><li>Michael Richardson,<a href="https://read.dukeupress.edu/books/book/3310/Nonhuman-WitnessingWar-Data-and-Ecology-after-the"> <i>Nonhuman Witnessing: War, Data, and Ecology after the End of the World</i></a><i> </i>(Duke University Press, 2024)</li><li>Michael Richardson,<a href="https://www.bloomsbury.com/ca/gestures-of-testimony-9781501315800/"> <i>Gestures of Testimony: Torture, Trauma, and Affect in Literature</i></a> (Bloomsbury, 2016)</li><li>Michael Richardson, “<a href="https://read.dukeupress.edu/books/book/3251/chapter-abstract/8245778/Algorithmic-Trauma?redirectedFrom=PDF">Algorithmic Trauma</a>,” in <i>The Affect Theory Reader 2: Worldings</i>, <i>Tensions, Futures</i>, edited by Gregory J. Seigworth, Michael Richardson and Carolyn Pedwell (Duke University Press, 2023)</li></ul><p><strong>Credits:</strong><br /><i>Policy Prompt</i> is produced by Vass Bednar and Paul Samson. Our technical producers are Tim Lewis and Melanie DeBonte. Fact-checking and background research provided by Reanne Cayenne. Marketing by Kahlan Thomson. Brand design by Abhilasha Dewan and creative direction by Som Tsoi.</p><p>Original music by Joshua Snethlage.</p><p>Sound mix and mastering by François Goudreault.</p><p>Special thanks to creative consultant Ken Ogasawara.</p><p>Be sure to follow us on social media.</p><ul><li>X:<a href="https://x.com/_policyprompt"> @_policyprompt</a></li><li>IG:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/_policyprompt"> @_policyprompt</a></li></ul><p>Listen to new episodes of <i>Policy Prompt</i> biweekly on major podcast platforms. Questions, comments or suggestions? Reach out to CIGI’s <i>Policy Prompt</i> team at info@policyprompt.io.</p>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 10 Feb 2025 13:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Join hosts Vass and Paul for their fascinating conversation with Michael Richardson, associate professor of media and culture at the University of New South Wales in Sydney, Australia, about the ideas in his book <a href="https://read.dukeupress.edu/books/book/3310/Nonhuman-WitnessingWar-Data-and-Ecology-after-the"><i>Nonhuman Witnessing: War, Data, and Ecology after the End of the World</i></a> (Duke University Press, 2024). Michael explores the ethical and political implications of witnessing in an age of profound instability, and how our ways of making knowledge and experiencing the world are being mediated in fundamental ways by nonhuman systems — from the embodiment of history, trauma and change in animals and natural landscapes, to the “immediately computational” witnessing by technologies such as surveillance cameras and artificial intelligence.</p><p><strong>Mentioned:</strong></p><ul><li>Potawatomi scholar Kyle Whyte:<a href="https://seas.umich.edu/research/faculty/kyle-whyte"> https://seas.umich.edu/research/faculty/kyle-whyte</a></li><li>Mario Blaser and Marisol de la Cadena, editors,<a href="https://journals.kent.ac.uk/index.php/transmotion/article/view/902/1777"> <i>A World of Many Worlds</i></a> (Duke University Press, 2018)</li><li>Future of Life Institute: “Slaughterbots are here” (https://autonomousweapons.org/)</li><li>“The infamous COMPAS [Correctional Offender Management Profiling for Alternative Sanctions] sentencing software”: see “Code is law: how COMPAS affects the way the judiciary handles the risk of recidivism,” by Christoph Engel, Lorenz Linhardt and Marcel Schubert, <i>Artificial Intelligence and Law</i>, February 2004, <a href="https://doi.org/10.1007/s10506-024-09389-8">https://doi.org/10.1007/s10506-024-09389-8</a></li><li>Australian Research Council Centre of Excellence on Automated Decision-Making and Society: www.admscentre.org.au/</li></ul><p><strong>In-Show Clips:</strong></p><ul><li>7:17: NDPVIDEO: “<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sui1K-NJ6rI">Jack Layton on reckless economic policies</a>” (YouTube, December 3, 2009)</li><li>14:57: Center for Puerto Rican Studies: “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYfsNMrUDjE">Bridging the Divides: Apocalypse and Indigenizing Futures</a>” featuring Yomaira Figueroa-Vásquez and Kyle Powys Whyte (YouTube, February 1, 2024)</li><li>18:48: ABC News In-depth: “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOUID754K8U">One year on, ABC News looks back at how Australia’s Black Summer bushfire crisis unfolded</a>” (YouTube, January 1, 2021)</li><li>21:58: <i>Overthink</i> Podcast, “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKSr_p0dNOY">Thinking with the pluriverse: a conversation with Mario Blaser</a>” (YouTube, October 24, 2023)</li><li>49:22: <i>The Wall Street Journal</i>: “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCjlokSzlKY">Valkyrie: This Autonomous AI Drone Could Be the Military’s Next Weapon</a>” (YouTube, October 7, 2023)</li><li>51:12: Future of Life Institute: “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rDo1QxI260">Slaughterbots — if human: kill()</a>” (YouTube, November 30, 2021)</li><li>1:02:20: <a href="https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/committee-activity/hearings/ai-in-criminal-investigations-and-prosecutions">Testimony of witness Rebecca Wexler</a>, Assistant Professor of Law, UC Berkeley School of Law, US Senate Committee on the Judiciary, Subcommittee on Criminal Justice and Counterterorism hearing “AI in Criminal Investigations and Prosecutions” (January 24, 2024)</li><li>1:03:14: WITNESS: “<a href="https://www.witness.org/sam-gregory-testifies-in-us-house-hearing-on-preparing-for-deepfakes/">WITNESS’ Sam Gregory testifies in US House hearing on how we can inclusively prepare for deepfakes</a>” (YouTube, November 8, 2023)</li></ul><p><strong>Further Reading: </strong></p><ul><li>Michael Richardson,<a href="https://read.dukeupress.edu/books/book/3310/Nonhuman-WitnessingWar-Data-and-Ecology-after-the"> <i>Nonhuman Witnessing: War, Data, and Ecology after the End of the World</i></a><i> </i>(Duke University Press, 2024)</li><li>Michael Richardson,<a href="https://www.bloomsbury.com/ca/gestures-of-testimony-9781501315800/"> <i>Gestures of Testimony: Torture, Trauma, and Affect in Literature</i></a> (Bloomsbury, 2016)</li><li>Michael Richardson, “<a href="https://read.dukeupress.edu/books/book/3251/chapter-abstract/8245778/Algorithmic-Trauma?redirectedFrom=PDF">Algorithmic Trauma</a>,” in <i>The Affect Theory Reader 2: Worldings</i>, <i>Tensions, Futures</i>, edited by Gregory J. Seigworth, Michael Richardson and Carolyn Pedwell (Duke University Press, 2023)</li></ul><p><strong>Credits:</strong><br /><i>Policy Prompt</i> is produced by Vass Bednar and Paul Samson. Our technical producers are Tim Lewis and Melanie DeBonte. Fact-checking and background research provided by Reanne Cayenne. Marketing by Kahlan Thomson. Brand design by Abhilasha Dewan and creative direction by Som Tsoi.</p><p>Original music by Joshua Snethlage.</p><p>Sound mix and mastering by François Goudreault.</p><p>Special thanks to creative consultant Ken Ogasawara.</p><p>Be sure to follow us on social media.</p><ul><li>X:<a href="https://x.com/_policyprompt"> @_policyprompt</a></li><li>IG:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/_policyprompt"> @_policyprompt</a></li></ul><p>Listen to new episodes of <i>Policy Prompt</i> biweekly on major podcast platforms. Questions, comments or suggestions? Reach out to CIGI’s <i>Policy Prompt</i> team at info@policyprompt.io.</p>
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      <title>“The Empire of IP”: How Did We Get Here? (talking history of copyright with David Bellos and Alexandre Montagu)</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Copyright has become a tool for privatizing everything — the opposite of what it was designed to do when it was invented in the eighteenth century to protect published works. In their book<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.ca/books/748361/who-owns-this-sentence-by-david-bellos/9781324073710"> <i>Who Owns This Sentence? A History of Copyrights and Wrongs</i></a> (Penguin Random House, 2024), Princeton professors David Bellos and Alexandre Montagu provide a lively account of that turnaround, to the point where “the bulk of American culture is in copyright prison,” the world’s largest companies earn their revenue from intellectual property, and creative rights to everything from wallpaper, computer code, choreography, a “vibe” or a banana costume can be disputed, claimed and monetized. Join Vass and Paul for this engaging tag team with David and Alexandre as they discuss both historical and contemporary examples of the power of copyright and where we might be headed with new technologies such as generative artificial intelligence.</p><p><strong>Mentioned:</strong></p><ul><li>Statute of Anne of 1710:<a href="http://www.copyrighthistory.com/anne.html"> www.copyrighthistory.com/anne.html</a></li><li>Landmark copyright case,<a href="https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/499/340/"> Feist Publications, Inc. v. Rural Telephone Service Co</a>. 499 US 340 (1991)</li><li>Copyright Law of the United States (Title 17): www.copyright.gov/title17/</li><li>“Fair use in America simply means the right to hire a lawyer to defend your right to create”: Lawrence Lessig in<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/292725/free-culture-by-lawrence-lessig/"> <i>Free Culture: The Nature and Future of Creativity</i></a> (Penguin Random House, 2005, chapter 12)</li><li>TRIPS Agreement: www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/trips_e/intel2_e.htm</li><li>Berne Convention of 1886:<a href="http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ip/berne/"> www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ip/berne/</a></li><li>Copyright Act (RSC 1985, c C-42):<a href="https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-42/Index.html"> https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-42/Index.html</a></li></ul><p><strong>Further Reading: </strong></p><ul><li>David Bellos and Alexandre Montagu, <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.ca/books/748361/who-owns-this-sentence-by-david-bellos/9781324073710"><i>Who Owns This Sentence? A History of Copyrights and Wrongs</i> </a>(Penguin Random House, 2024)</li><li>Lawrence Lessig, <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/292725/free-culture-by-lawrence-lessig/"><i>Free Culture: The Nature and Future of Creativity</i></a> (Penguin Random House, 2005)</li><li>Katy Waldman, “<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2025/01/13/did-a-best-selling-romantasy-novelist-steal-another-writers-story">Did a Best-Selling Romantasy Novelist Steal Another Writer’s Story?</a>” (<i>The New Yorker</i>, January 6, 2025)</li><li>CBC Arts, “<a href="https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/court-tosses-out-another-da-vinci-code-plagiarism-case-1.619574">Court tosses out another Da Vinci Code plagiarism case</a>” (CBC, November 13, 2006)</li><li>Associated Press: “<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/09/business/mediatalk-dustin-hoffman-loses-appeals-court-case.html">Media Talk; Dustin Hoffman Loses Appeals Court Case</a>” (<i>The New York Times</i>, July 9, 2001)</li><li>Racheal Muldoon and Mark Bailey: “<a href="https://www.charlesrussellspeechlys.com/en/insights/expert-insights/financial-services/2025/getty-v-stability-ai-a-tantalising-glance-of-whats-to-come-for-ai-firms-and-creators/">Getty v Stability AI: A ‘tantalising glance’ of what’s to come for AI firms and creators</a>” (Charles Russell Speechlys, January 16, 2025)</li><li>Kari Paul, “<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/law/2019/aug/01/banana-costume-copyright-law-ruling">Court of a-peel: nasty split over banana costume leads to legal monkey business</a>” (<i>The Guardian</i>, August 1, 2019)</li></ul><p><strong>Show Notes:</strong></p><ul><li>More on copyright history, current questions around legislation, and rights of publicity: BBC <i>Arts & Ideas</i> podcast, “<a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0h0xdh2">Dickens, Disney and copyright</a>” (with guests David Bellos, Katie McGettigan and Hayleigh Bosher; December 21, 2023)</li><li>On Creative Commons movement and Wikipedia: Creative Commons, “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sglm8gQ4TMY">Celebrating 20 Years of CC Licenses — Creative Commons founder Lawrence Lessig</a>” (YouTube, April 6, 2022)</li></ul><p><strong>Credits:</strong><br /><i>Policy Prompt</i> is produced by Vass Bednar and Paul Samson. Our technical producers are Tim Lewis and Melanie DeBonte. Fact-checking and background research provided by Reanne Cayenne. Marketing by Kahlan Thomson. Brand design by Abhilasha Dewan and creative direction by Som Tsoi.</p><p>Original music by Joshua Snethlage.</p><p>Sound mix and mastering by François Goudreault.</p><p>Special thanks to creative consultant Ken Ogasawara.</p><p>Be sure to follow us on social media.</p><ul><li>X:<a href="https://x.com/_policyprompt"> @_policyprompt</a></li><li>IG:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/_policyprompt"> @_policyprompt</a></li></ul><p>Listen to new episodes of <i>Policy Prompt</i> biweekly on major podcast platforms. Questions, comments or suggestions? Reach out to CIGI’s <i>Policy Prompt</i> team at info@policyprompt.io.</p>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jan 2025 13:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>websiteupdates@cigionline.org (The Centre for International Governance Innovation)</author>
      <link>https://policy-prompt.simplecast.com/episodes/the-empire-of-ip-how-did-we-get-here-talking-history-of-copyright-with-david-bellos-and-alexandre-montagu-Y28PSU9m</link>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Copyright has become a tool for privatizing everything — the opposite of what it was designed to do when it was invented in the eighteenth century to protect published works. In their book<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.ca/books/748361/who-owns-this-sentence-by-david-bellos/9781324073710"> <i>Who Owns This Sentence? A History of Copyrights and Wrongs</i></a> (Penguin Random House, 2024), Princeton professors David Bellos and Alexandre Montagu provide a lively account of that turnaround, to the point where “the bulk of American culture is in copyright prison,” the world’s largest companies earn their revenue from intellectual property, and creative rights to everything from wallpaper, computer code, choreography, a “vibe” or a banana costume can be disputed, claimed and monetized. Join Vass and Paul for this engaging tag team with David and Alexandre as they discuss both historical and contemporary examples of the power of copyright and where we might be headed with new technologies such as generative artificial intelligence.</p><p><strong>Mentioned:</strong></p><ul><li>Statute of Anne of 1710:<a href="http://www.copyrighthistory.com/anne.html"> www.copyrighthistory.com/anne.html</a></li><li>Landmark copyright case,<a href="https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/499/340/"> Feist Publications, Inc. v. Rural Telephone Service Co</a>. 499 US 340 (1991)</li><li>Copyright Law of the United States (Title 17): www.copyright.gov/title17/</li><li>“Fair use in America simply means the right to hire a lawyer to defend your right to create”: Lawrence Lessig in<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/292725/free-culture-by-lawrence-lessig/"> <i>Free Culture: The Nature and Future of Creativity</i></a> (Penguin Random House, 2005, chapter 12)</li><li>TRIPS Agreement: www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/trips_e/intel2_e.htm</li><li>Berne Convention of 1886:<a href="http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ip/berne/"> www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ip/berne/</a></li><li>Copyright Act (RSC 1985, c C-42):<a href="https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-42/Index.html"> https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-42/Index.html</a></li></ul><p><strong>Further Reading: </strong></p><ul><li>David Bellos and Alexandre Montagu, <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.ca/books/748361/who-owns-this-sentence-by-david-bellos/9781324073710"><i>Who Owns This Sentence? A History of Copyrights and Wrongs</i> </a>(Penguin Random House, 2024)</li><li>Lawrence Lessig, <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/292725/free-culture-by-lawrence-lessig/"><i>Free Culture: The Nature and Future of Creativity</i></a> (Penguin Random House, 2005)</li><li>Katy Waldman, “<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2025/01/13/did-a-best-selling-romantasy-novelist-steal-another-writers-story">Did a Best-Selling Romantasy Novelist Steal Another Writer’s Story?</a>” (<i>The New Yorker</i>, January 6, 2025)</li><li>CBC Arts, “<a href="https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/court-tosses-out-another-da-vinci-code-plagiarism-case-1.619574">Court tosses out another Da Vinci Code plagiarism case</a>” (CBC, November 13, 2006)</li><li>Associated Press: “<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/09/business/mediatalk-dustin-hoffman-loses-appeals-court-case.html">Media Talk; Dustin Hoffman Loses Appeals Court Case</a>” (<i>The New York Times</i>, July 9, 2001)</li><li>Racheal Muldoon and Mark Bailey: “<a href="https://www.charlesrussellspeechlys.com/en/insights/expert-insights/financial-services/2025/getty-v-stability-ai-a-tantalising-glance-of-whats-to-come-for-ai-firms-and-creators/">Getty v Stability AI: A ‘tantalising glance’ of what’s to come for AI firms and creators</a>” (Charles Russell Speechlys, January 16, 2025)</li><li>Kari Paul, “<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/law/2019/aug/01/banana-costume-copyright-law-ruling">Court of a-peel: nasty split over banana costume leads to legal monkey business</a>” (<i>The Guardian</i>, August 1, 2019)</li></ul><p><strong>Show Notes:</strong></p><ul><li>More on copyright history, current questions around legislation, and rights of publicity: BBC <i>Arts & Ideas</i> podcast, “<a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0h0xdh2">Dickens, Disney and copyright</a>” (with guests David Bellos, Katie McGettigan and Hayleigh Bosher; December 21, 2023)</li><li>On Creative Commons movement and Wikipedia: Creative Commons, “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sglm8gQ4TMY">Celebrating 20 Years of CC Licenses — Creative Commons founder Lawrence Lessig</a>” (YouTube, April 6, 2022)</li></ul><p><strong>Credits:</strong><br /><i>Policy Prompt</i> is produced by Vass Bednar and Paul Samson. Our technical producers are Tim Lewis and Melanie DeBonte. Fact-checking and background research provided by Reanne Cayenne. Marketing by Kahlan Thomson. Brand design by Abhilasha Dewan and creative direction by Som Tsoi.</p><p>Original music by Joshua Snethlage.</p><p>Sound mix and mastering by François Goudreault.</p><p>Special thanks to creative consultant Ken Ogasawara.</p><p>Be sure to follow us on social media.</p><ul><li>X:<a href="https://x.com/_policyprompt"> @_policyprompt</a></li><li>IG:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/_policyprompt"> @_policyprompt</a></li></ul><p>Listen to new episodes of <i>Policy Prompt</i> biweekly on major podcast platforms. Questions, comments or suggestions? Reach out to CIGI’s <i>Policy Prompt</i> team at info@policyprompt.io.</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Join the <i>Policy Prompt</i> crew for a different kind of episode: recorded with a live audience at <a href="https://perfectbooks.ca/">Perfect Books</a> in Ottawa, host Paul Samson interviews Denise Hearn (resident senior fellow at the <a href="https://ccsi.columbia.edu/">Columbia Center on Sustainable Investment</a>, author, applied researcher and adviser) and Vass Bednar (CIGI senior fellow, Public Policy Forum fellow and executive director of the Master of Public Policy in Digital Society program at McMaster University) to discuss “kayfabe capitalism,” and why our nation’s competition policy leaves much to be desired. Listen to learn how Canada can promote competition, encourage citizen engagement and create a more level playing field. Denise and Vass’s book, <a href="https://sutherlandhousebooks.com/product/the-big-fix/#:~:text=The%20future%20of%20Canada%E2%80%99s%20economy%20is"><i>The Big Fix: How Companies Capture Markets and Harm Canadians</i></a>, is available now from Sutherland House Press.</p><p><strong>Mentioned:</strong></p><ul><li>Denise Hearn and Vass Bednar, <a href="https://sutherlandhousebooks.com/product/the-big-fix/#:~:text=The%20future%20of%20Canada%E2%80%99s%20economy%20is"><i>The Big Fix: How Companies Capture Markets and Harm Canadians</i></a> (Sutherland House Press, 2024)</li><li><a href="https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/c-34/"><i>Competition Act</i></a> RSC 1985, c C-34</li><li><a href="https://perfectbooks.ca/">Perfect Books</a>, 258A Elgin St., Ottawa</li></ul><p><strong>Further Reading: </strong></p><ul><li>Denise Hearn and Vass Bednar, <a href="https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/commentary/article-we-live-in-the-age-of-kayfabe-capitalism/">“We live in the age of kayfabe capitalism” </a>(<i>The Globe and Mail</i>, October 13, 2024)</li><li>Vass Bednar, <a href="https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/commentary/article-in-canada-we-bank-where-we-buy/">“In Canada, we bank where we buy”</a> (<i>The Globe and Mail</i>, May 5, 2024)</li><li>Jonathan Tepper and Denise Hearn, <a href="https://www.wiley.com/en-ca/The+Myth+of+Capitalism%3A+Monopolies+and+the+Death+of+Competition-p-9781119548140"><i>The Myth of Capitalism: Monopolies and the Death of Competition</i></a> (Wiley, 2018)</li></ul><p><strong>Show notes: </strong></p><ul><li>Vass Bednar’s <a href="https://www.theglobeandmail.com/podcasts/lately/"><i>Lately </i>podcast<i> </i>with <i>The Globe and Mail</i></a>, centring on trends and key actors in business and tech</li><li>Vass Bednar’s Substack, <a href="https://www.regs2riches.com/"><i>Regs to riches</i></a>, a newsletter about start-ups and public policy</li><li>Denise Hearn’s newsletter, <a href="https://embodied-economics.ghost.io/"><i>Embodied Economics</i></a>, focuses on today’s economic frameworks and financial structures through a nuanced lens</li></ul><p><strong>Credits:</strong><br /><i>Policy Prompt</i> is produced by Vass Bednar and Paul Samson. Our technical producers are Tim Lewis and Melanie DeBonte. Fact-checking and background research provided by Reanne Cayenne. Marketing by Kahlan Thomson. Brand design by Abhilasha Dewan and creative direction by Som Tsoi.</p><p>Original music by Joshua Snethlage.</p><p>Sound mix and mastering by François Goudreault.</p><p>Special thanks to creative consultant Ken Ogasawara.</p><p>Be sure to follow us on social media.</p><ul><li>X:<a href="https://x.com/_policyprompt"> @_policyprompt</a></li><li>IG:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/_policyprompt"> @_policyprompt</a></li></ul><p>Listen to new episodes of <i>Policy Prompt</i> biweekly on major podcast platforms. Questions, comments or suggestions? Reach out to CIGI’s <i>Policy Prompt</i> team at info@policyprompt.io.</p>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 19 Dec 2024 13:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Join the <i>Policy Prompt</i> crew for a different kind of episode: recorded with a live audience at <a href="https://perfectbooks.ca/">Perfect Books</a> in Ottawa, host Paul Samson interviews Denise Hearn (resident senior fellow at the <a href="https://ccsi.columbia.edu/">Columbia Center on Sustainable Investment</a>, author, applied researcher and adviser) and Vass Bednar (CIGI senior fellow, Public Policy Forum fellow and executive director of the Master of Public Policy in Digital Society program at McMaster University) to discuss “kayfabe capitalism,” and why our nation’s competition policy leaves much to be desired. Listen to learn how Canada can promote competition, encourage citizen engagement and create a more level playing field. Denise and Vass’s book, <a href="https://sutherlandhousebooks.com/product/the-big-fix/#:~:text=The%20future%20of%20Canada%E2%80%99s%20economy%20is"><i>The Big Fix: How Companies Capture Markets and Harm Canadians</i></a>, is available now from Sutherland House Press.</p><p><strong>Mentioned:</strong></p><ul><li>Denise Hearn and Vass Bednar, <a href="https://sutherlandhousebooks.com/product/the-big-fix/#:~:text=The%20future%20of%20Canada%E2%80%99s%20economy%20is"><i>The Big Fix: How Companies Capture Markets and Harm Canadians</i></a> (Sutherland House Press, 2024)</li><li><a href="https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/c-34/"><i>Competition Act</i></a> RSC 1985, c C-34</li><li><a href="https://perfectbooks.ca/">Perfect Books</a>, 258A Elgin St., Ottawa</li></ul><p><strong>Further Reading: </strong></p><ul><li>Denise Hearn and Vass Bednar, <a href="https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/commentary/article-we-live-in-the-age-of-kayfabe-capitalism/">“We live in the age of kayfabe capitalism” </a>(<i>The Globe and Mail</i>, October 13, 2024)</li><li>Vass Bednar, <a href="https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/commentary/article-in-canada-we-bank-where-we-buy/">“In Canada, we bank where we buy”</a> (<i>The Globe and Mail</i>, May 5, 2024)</li><li>Jonathan Tepper and Denise Hearn, <a href="https://www.wiley.com/en-ca/The+Myth+of+Capitalism%3A+Monopolies+and+the+Death+of+Competition-p-9781119548140"><i>The Myth of Capitalism: Monopolies and the Death of Competition</i></a> (Wiley, 2018)</li></ul><p><strong>Show notes: </strong></p><ul><li>Vass Bednar’s <a href="https://www.theglobeandmail.com/podcasts/lately/"><i>Lately </i>podcast<i> </i>with <i>The Globe and Mail</i></a>, centring on trends and key actors in business and tech</li><li>Vass Bednar’s Substack, <a href="https://www.regs2riches.com/"><i>Regs to riches</i></a>, a newsletter about start-ups and public policy</li><li>Denise Hearn’s newsletter, <a href="https://embodied-economics.ghost.io/"><i>Embodied Economics</i></a>, focuses on today’s economic frameworks and financial structures through a nuanced lens</li></ul><p><strong>Credits:</strong><br /><i>Policy Prompt</i> is produced by Vass Bednar and Paul Samson. Our technical producers are Tim Lewis and Melanie DeBonte. Fact-checking and background research provided by Reanne Cayenne. Marketing by Kahlan Thomson. Brand design by Abhilasha Dewan and creative direction by Som Tsoi.</p><p>Original music by Joshua Snethlage.</p><p>Sound mix and mastering by François Goudreault.</p><p>Special thanks to creative consultant Ken Ogasawara.</p><p>Be sure to follow us on social media.</p><ul><li>X:<a href="https://x.com/_policyprompt"> @_policyprompt</a></li><li>IG:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/_policyprompt"> @_policyprompt</a></li></ul><p>Listen to new episodes of <i>Policy Prompt</i> biweekly on major podcast platforms. Questions, comments or suggestions? Reach out to CIGI’s <i>Policy Prompt</i> team at info@policyprompt.io.</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Is refrigeration really that revolutionary? In this episode of <i>Policy Prompt</i>, the hosts are joined by Nicola Twilley, author of <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.ca/books/551601/frostbite-by-nicola-twilley/9780735223295"><i>Frostbite: How Refrigeration Changed Our Food, Our Planet, and Ourselves</i></a><i> </i>(Penguin Press, 2024) and co-host of the award-winning <a href="https://gastropod.com/"><i>Gastropod</i> </a>podcast. They explore the “modern marvel” of enjoying fresh foods from around the globe year-round, and the science that makes it all possible.</p><p><strong>Mentioned:</strong></p><ul><li>Nicola Twilley, <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.ca/books/551601/frostbite-by-nicola-twilley/9780735223295"><i>Frostbite: How Refrigeration Changed Our Food, Our Planet, and Ourselves</i></a><i> </i>(Penguin Press, 2024)</li><li><a href="https://gastropod.com/"><i>“Gastropod. Food with a side of science and history”</i></a></li></ul><p><strong>Further Reading: </strong></p><ul><li>Nicola Twilley’s<a href="https://www.nicolatwilley.com/"> official website</a></li><li>Nicola Twilley, <a href="https://www.wired.com/story/get-rich-peeping-inside-fridges/">“How to Get Rich From Peeping Inside People’s Fridges”</a> (<i>Wired</i>, July 1, 2024)</li><li>Nicola Twilley, <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-weekend-essay/how-the-fridge-changed-flavor">“How the Fridge Changed Flavor”</a> (<i>The New Yorker</i>, June 8, 2024)</li></ul><p><strong>Show notes: </strong></p><ul><li>The <a href="https://www.seedvault.no/">Svalbard Global Seed Vault</a>, located in Norway, is home to gene banks that are preserving more than one million seeds from around the world.</li><li>A remedy for rampant food waste? Nicola Twilley and co-host Cynthia Graber explore “<a href="https://x.com/Gastropodcast/status/1841860006636851488">surprise bags</a>” in an episode of <a href="https://gastropod.com/from-trash-to-treasure-whys-it-so-hard-to-save-restaurant-leftovers-from-the-dumpster/"><i>Gastropod</i></a><i>.</i></li></ul><p><strong>Credits:</strong><br /><i>Policy Prompt</i> is produced by Vass Bednar and Paul Samson. Our technical producers are Tim Lewis and Melanie DeBonte. Fact-checking and background research provided by Reanne Cayenne. Marketing by Kahlan Thomson. Brand design by Abhilasha Dewan and creative direction by Som Tsoi.</p><p>Original music by Joshua Snethlage.</p><p>Sound mix and mastering by François Goudreault.</p><p>Special thanks to creative consultant Ken Ogasawara.</p><p>Be sure to follow us on social media.</p><ul><li>X:<a href="https://x.com/_policyprompt"> @_policyprompt</a></li><li>IG:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/_policyprompt"> @_policyprompt</a></li></ul><p>Listen to new episodes of <i>Policy Prompt</i> biweekly on major podcast platforms. Questions, comments or suggestions? Reach out to CIGI’s <i>Policy Prompt</i> team at info@policyprompt.io.</p>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 9 Dec 2024 13:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is refrigeration really that revolutionary? In this episode of <i>Policy Prompt</i>, the hosts are joined by Nicola Twilley, author of <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.ca/books/551601/frostbite-by-nicola-twilley/9780735223295"><i>Frostbite: How Refrigeration Changed Our Food, Our Planet, and Ourselves</i></a><i> </i>(Penguin Press, 2024) and co-host of the award-winning <a href="https://gastropod.com/"><i>Gastropod</i> </a>podcast. They explore the “modern marvel” of enjoying fresh foods from around the globe year-round, and the science that makes it all possible.</p><p><strong>Mentioned:</strong></p><ul><li>Nicola Twilley, <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.ca/books/551601/frostbite-by-nicola-twilley/9780735223295"><i>Frostbite: How Refrigeration Changed Our Food, Our Planet, and Ourselves</i></a><i> </i>(Penguin Press, 2024)</li><li><a href="https://gastropod.com/"><i>“Gastropod. Food with a side of science and history”</i></a></li></ul><p><strong>Further Reading: </strong></p><ul><li>Nicola Twilley’s<a href="https://www.nicolatwilley.com/"> official website</a></li><li>Nicola Twilley, <a href="https://www.wired.com/story/get-rich-peeping-inside-fridges/">“How to Get Rich From Peeping Inside People’s Fridges”</a> (<i>Wired</i>, July 1, 2024)</li><li>Nicola Twilley, <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-weekend-essay/how-the-fridge-changed-flavor">“How the Fridge Changed Flavor”</a> (<i>The New Yorker</i>, June 8, 2024)</li></ul><p><strong>Show notes: </strong></p><ul><li>The <a href="https://www.seedvault.no/">Svalbard Global Seed Vault</a>, located in Norway, is home to gene banks that are preserving more than one million seeds from around the world.</li><li>A remedy for rampant food waste? Nicola Twilley and co-host Cynthia Graber explore “<a href="https://x.com/Gastropodcast/status/1841860006636851488">surprise bags</a>” in an episode of <a href="https://gastropod.com/from-trash-to-treasure-whys-it-so-hard-to-save-restaurant-leftovers-from-the-dumpster/"><i>Gastropod</i></a><i>.</i></li></ul><p><strong>Credits:</strong><br /><i>Policy Prompt</i> is produced by Vass Bednar and Paul Samson. Our technical producers are Tim Lewis and Melanie DeBonte. Fact-checking and background research provided by Reanne Cayenne. Marketing by Kahlan Thomson. Brand design by Abhilasha Dewan and creative direction by Som Tsoi.</p><p>Original music by Joshua Snethlage.</p><p>Sound mix and mastering by François Goudreault.</p><p>Special thanks to creative consultant Ken Ogasawara.</p><p>Be sure to follow us on social media.</p><ul><li>X:<a href="https://x.com/_policyprompt"> @_policyprompt</a></li><li>IG:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/_policyprompt"> @_policyprompt</a></li></ul><p>Listen to new episodes of <i>Policy Prompt</i> biweekly on major podcast platforms. Questions, comments or suggestions? Reach out to CIGI’s <i>Policy Prompt</i> team at info@policyprompt.io.</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p> Amid the geopolitical tensions of the Cold War, the Chinese computer emerged. Despite the complexity of formatting tens of thousands of characters for digital use, the race for ingenuity resulted in the revolutionary computing of non-Latin script and unprecedented typing speeds — feats that continue to shape the devices we use today. Join <i>Policy Prompt</i> hosts for a deep dive into the history of digital technology in China with Thomas S. Mullaney, American sinologist, professor at Stanford University and author of <a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262047517/the-chinese-computer/"><i>The Chinese Computer: A Global History of the Information Age</i></a><i> </i>(MIT Press, 2024). </p><p><strong>Mentioned:</strong></p><ul><li>Thomas S. Mullaney, <a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262047517/the-chinese-computer/"><i>The Chinese Computer: A Global History of the Information Age</i></a><i> </i>(MIT Press, 2024)</li><li>Tom Mullaney, “<a href="https://qz.com/2014491/the-asian-american-immigrants-behind-key-technology-innovations">America has a rich history of innovation by Asian immigrants</a>” (<i>Quartz</i>, May 29, 2021)</li><li>Thomas S. Mullaney, <a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262536103/the-chinese-typewriter/"><i>The Chinese Typewriter: A History</i></a> (MIT Press, 2018)</li><li><a href="https://silicon.stanford.edu/">SILICON (Stanford Initiative on Language Inclusion and Conservation in Old and New Media)</a></li></ul><p><strong>Further Reading: </strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262360784/your-computer-is-on-fire/"><i>Your Computer Is on Fire</i></a>, edited by Thomas S. Mullaney, Benjamin Peters, Mar Hicks and Kavita Philip (MIT Press, 2021)</li><li>Tom Mullaney, <a href="https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/05/31/1025599/history-first-chinese-digital-computer-fonts/">“Behind the painstaking process of creating Chinese computer fonts”</a> (<i>MIT Technology Review</i>, May 31, 2021)</li><li>Thomas S. Mullaney, <a href="https://dx.doi.org/10.1353/tech.2018.0149">“QWERTY in China: Chinese Computing and the Radical Alphabet”</a> (<i>Technology and Culture</i> 59 (4): S34–S65)</li></ul><p><strong>Credits:</strong><br /><i>Policy Prompt</i> is produced by Vass Bednar and Paul Samson. Our technical producers are Tim Lewis and Melanie DeBonte. Fact-checking and background research provided by Reanne Cayenne. Marketing by Kahlan Thomson. Brand design by Abhilasha Dewan and creative direction by Som Tsoi.</p><p>Original music by Joshua Snethlage.</p><p>Sound mix and mastering by François Goudreault.</p><p>Special thanks to creative consultant Ken Ogasawara.</p><p>Be sure to follow us on social media.</p><ul><li>X:<a href="https://x.com/_policyprompt"> @_policyprompt</a></li><li>IG:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/_policyprompt"> @_policyprompt</a></li></ul><p>Listen to new episodes of <i>Policy Prompt</i> biweekly on major podcast platforms. Questions, comments or suggestions? Reach out to CIGI’s <i>Policy Prompt</i> team at info@policyprompt.io.</p>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 11 Nov 2024 13:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Amid the geopolitical tensions of the Cold War, the Chinese computer emerged. Despite the complexity of formatting tens of thousands of characters for digital use, the race for ingenuity resulted in the revolutionary computing of non-Latin script and unprecedented typing speeds — feats that continue to shape the devices we use today. Join <i>Policy Prompt</i> hosts for a deep dive into the history of digital technology in China with Thomas S. Mullaney, American sinologist, professor at Stanford University and author of <a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262047517/the-chinese-computer/"><i>The Chinese Computer: A Global History of the Information Age</i></a><i> </i>(MIT Press, 2024). </p><p><strong>Mentioned:</strong></p><ul><li>Thomas S. Mullaney, <a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262047517/the-chinese-computer/"><i>The Chinese Computer: A Global History of the Information Age</i></a><i> </i>(MIT Press, 2024)</li><li>Tom Mullaney, “<a href="https://qz.com/2014491/the-asian-american-immigrants-behind-key-technology-innovations">America has a rich history of innovation by Asian immigrants</a>” (<i>Quartz</i>, May 29, 2021)</li><li>Thomas S. Mullaney, <a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262536103/the-chinese-typewriter/"><i>The Chinese Typewriter: A History</i></a> (MIT Press, 2018)</li><li><a href="https://silicon.stanford.edu/">SILICON (Stanford Initiative on Language Inclusion and Conservation in Old and New Media)</a></li></ul><p><strong>Further Reading: </strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262360784/your-computer-is-on-fire/"><i>Your Computer Is on Fire</i></a>, edited by Thomas S. Mullaney, Benjamin Peters, Mar Hicks and Kavita Philip (MIT Press, 2021)</li><li>Tom Mullaney, <a href="https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/05/31/1025599/history-first-chinese-digital-computer-fonts/">“Behind the painstaking process of creating Chinese computer fonts”</a> (<i>MIT Technology Review</i>, May 31, 2021)</li><li>Thomas S. Mullaney, <a href="https://dx.doi.org/10.1353/tech.2018.0149">“QWERTY in China: Chinese Computing and the Radical Alphabet”</a> (<i>Technology and Culture</i> 59 (4): S34–S65)</li></ul><p><strong>Credits:</strong><br /><i>Policy Prompt</i> is produced by Vass Bednar and Paul Samson. Our technical producers are Tim Lewis and Melanie DeBonte. Fact-checking and background research provided by Reanne Cayenne. Marketing by Kahlan Thomson. Brand design by Abhilasha Dewan and creative direction by Som Tsoi.</p><p>Original music by Joshua Snethlage.</p><p>Sound mix and mastering by François Goudreault.</p><p>Special thanks to creative consultant Ken Ogasawara.</p><p>Be sure to follow us on social media.</p><ul><li>X:<a href="https://x.com/_policyprompt"> @_policyprompt</a></li><li>IG:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/_policyprompt"> @_policyprompt</a></li></ul><p>Listen to new episodes of <i>Policy Prompt</i> biweekly on major podcast platforms. Questions, comments or suggestions? Reach out to CIGI’s <i>Policy Prompt</i> team at info@policyprompt.io.</p>
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      <title>Siri, Tell Us About Human Rights and Robot Wrongs (a conversation with Susie Alegre)</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Policy Prompt hosts chat with CIGI Senior Fellow and international human rights lawyer Susie Alegre, to unpack her latest book, Human Rights, Robot Wrongs: Being Human in the Age of AI (Atlantic Books, 2024). Listen to find out if Susie has ever been fooled by artificial intelligence, what the challenges and the tensions of rights for machines are, and why there is a palpable lack of urgency around the adoption of fully autonomous weapons.</p><p><strong>Mentioned:</strong></p><ul><li>Susie Alegre, <a href="https://atlantic-books.co.uk/book/human-rights-robot-wrongs/"><i>Human Rights, Robot Wrongs: Being Human in the Age of AI</i></a> (Atlantic Books, 2024)</li><li><a href="https://theconversation.com/machine-learning-cracked-the-protein-folding-problem-and-won-the-2024-nobel-prize-in-chemistry-240937">“Machine learning cracked the protein-folding problem and won the 2024 Nobel Prize in chemistry”</a> (<i>The Conversation</i>, October 9, 2024)</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/uTJ1SezowhU?si=LwPa46IQC7wXEiJV">“How good is the latest version of ChatGPT?”</a> (BBC News, May 16, 2024)</li><li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/sophia-robot-citizen-womens-rights-detriot-become-human-hanson-robotics/">“The agony of Sophia, the world’s first robot citizen condemned to a lifeless career in marketing”</a> (<i>Wired</i>, June 1, 2018)</li><li>Susie Alegre, <a href="https://atlantic-books.co.uk/book/freedom-to-think/"><i>Freedom to Think: Protecting a Fundamental Human Right in the Digital Age</i></a> (Atlantic Books, 2023)</li></ul><p><strong>Explore further: </strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/technology/article/2024/may/11/human-rights-lawyer-susie-alegre-ai-artificial-intelligence-human-rights-robot-wrongs-book-interview">“Human rights lawyer Susie Alegre: ‘If AI is so complex it can’t be explained, there are areas where it shouldn’t be used’”</a> (<i>The Guardian</i>, May 11, 2024)</li><li>Susan Ariel Aaronson, Susie Alegre, Duncan Cass-Beggs and Jeni Tennison, <a href="https://www.cigionline.org/articles/can-we-have-our-ai-cake-and-eat-it-too/">“Can We Have Our AI Cake and Eat It Too?”</a> (CIGI, November 30, 2023)</li><li>Susie Alegre, <a href="https://www.cigionline.org/multimedia/technological-threats-to-our-freedom-of-thought/">“Technological Threats to Our Freedom of Thought”</a> (CIGI, September 14, 2022)</li></ul><p><strong>In-Show Clips:</strong></p><ul><li>CBC News: “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiaRUmVfbMY&ab_channel=CBCNews">Cambridge Analytica and Facebook data: Companies under investigation</a>”</li><li>TalkTV: “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aafHI1fhrJU&ab_channel=TalkTV">AI Girlfriend ‘Told Intruder To Assassinate The Queen In Windsor Castle’</a>”</li><li>Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health: “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eyTBlZNLsk&ab_channel=HarvardT.H.ChanSchoolofPublicHealth">Using AI to discover new antibiotics</a>”</li><li>The Jakarta Post: “<a href="https://youtu.be/E8Ox6H64yu8?si=MKqyMVXaK4stsDf2">Meet Sophia: The first robot declared a citizen by Saudi Arabia</a>”</li><li>Bloomberg Technology: “<a href="https://youtu.be/jDViOeyrxyU?si=LX7t6MCtmUQHGTuK">Microsoft, AWS Speakers Exit Event Over Fake Female Profiles</a>”</li><li>BBC News: “<a href="https://youtu.be/xQsjJ7kShnY?si=Y-4lh0pwswMopcXk">Scarlett Johansson 'shocked' by AI chatbot imitation</a>”</li></ul><p><strong>Credits:</strong><br /><i>Policy Prompt</i> is produced by Vass Bednar and Paul Samson. Our technical producers are Tim Lewis and Melanie DeBonte. Fact-checking and background research provided by Reanne Cayenne. Marketing by Kahlan Thomson. Brand design by Abhilasha Dewan and creative direction by Som Tsoi.</p><p>Original music by Joshua Snethlage.</p><p>Sound mix and mastering by François Goudreault.</p><p>Special thanks to creative consultant Ken Ogasawara.</p><p>Be sure to follow us on social media.</p><ul><li>X:<a href="https://x.com/_policyprompt"> @_policyprompt</a></li><li>IG:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/_policyprompt"> @_policyprompt</a></li></ul><p>Listen to new episodes of <i>Policy Prompt</i> biweekly on major podcast platforms. Questions, comments or suggestions? Reach out to CIGI’s <i>Policy Prompt</i> team at info@policyprompt.io.</p>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2024 12:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Policy Prompt hosts chat with CIGI Senior Fellow and international human rights lawyer Susie Alegre, to unpack her latest book, Human Rights, Robot Wrongs: Being Human in the Age of AI (Atlantic Books, 2024). Listen to find out if Susie has ever been fooled by artificial intelligence, what the challenges and the tensions of rights for machines are, and why there is a palpable lack of urgency around the adoption of fully autonomous weapons.</p><p><strong>Mentioned:</strong></p><ul><li>Susie Alegre, <a href="https://atlantic-books.co.uk/book/human-rights-robot-wrongs/"><i>Human Rights, Robot Wrongs: Being Human in the Age of AI</i></a> (Atlantic Books, 2024)</li><li><a href="https://theconversation.com/machine-learning-cracked-the-protein-folding-problem-and-won-the-2024-nobel-prize-in-chemistry-240937">“Machine learning cracked the protein-folding problem and won the 2024 Nobel Prize in chemistry”</a> (<i>The Conversation</i>, October 9, 2024)</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/uTJ1SezowhU?si=LwPa46IQC7wXEiJV">“How good is the latest version of ChatGPT?”</a> (BBC News, May 16, 2024)</li><li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/sophia-robot-citizen-womens-rights-detriot-become-human-hanson-robotics/">“The agony of Sophia, the world’s first robot citizen condemned to a lifeless career in marketing”</a> (<i>Wired</i>, June 1, 2018)</li><li>Susie Alegre, <a href="https://atlantic-books.co.uk/book/freedom-to-think/"><i>Freedom to Think: Protecting a Fundamental Human Right in the Digital Age</i></a> (Atlantic Books, 2023)</li></ul><p><strong>Explore further: </strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/technology/article/2024/may/11/human-rights-lawyer-susie-alegre-ai-artificial-intelligence-human-rights-robot-wrongs-book-interview">“Human rights lawyer Susie Alegre: ‘If AI is so complex it can’t be explained, there are areas where it shouldn’t be used’”</a> (<i>The Guardian</i>, May 11, 2024)</li><li>Susan Ariel Aaronson, Susie Alegre, Duncan Cass-Beggs and Jeni Tennison, <a href="https://www.cigionline.org/articles/can-we-have-our-ai-cake-and-eat-it-too/">“Can We Have Our AI Cake and Eat It Too?”</a> (CIGI, November 30, 2023)</li><li>Susie Alegre, <a href="https://www.cigionline.org/multimedia/technological-threats-to-our-freedom-of-thought/">“Technological Threats to Our Freedom of Thought”</a> (CIGI, September 14, 2022)</li></ul><p><strong>In-Show Clips:</strong></p><ul><li>CBC News: “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiaRUmVfbMY&ab_channel=CBCNews">Cambridge Analytica and Facebook data: Companies under investigation</a>”</li><li>TalkTV: “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aafHI1fhrJU&ab_channel=TalkTV">AI Girlfriend ‘Told Intruder To Assassinate The Queen In Windsor Castle’</a>”</li><li>Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health: “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eyTBlZNLsk&ab_channel=HarvardT.H.ChanSchoolofPublicHealth">Using AI to discover new antibiotics</a>”</li><li>The Jakarta Post: “<a href="https://youtu.be/E8Ox6H64yu8?si=MKqyMVXaK4stsDf2">Meet Sophia: The first robot declared a citizen by Saudi Arabia</a>”</li><li>Bloomberg Technology: “<a href="https://youtu.be/jDViOeyrxyU?si=LX7t6MCtmUQHGTuK">Microsoft, AWS Speakers Exit Event Over Fake Female Profiles</a>”</li><li>BBC News: “<a href="https://youtu.be/xQsjJ7kShnY?si=Y-4lh0pwswMopcXk">Scarlett Johansson 'shocked' by AI chatbot imitation</a>”</li></ul><p><strong>Credits:</strong><br /><i>Policy Prompt</i> is produced by Vass Bednar and Paul Samson. Our technical producers are Tim Lewis and Melanie DeBonte. Fact-checking and background research provided by Reanne Cayenne. Marketing by Kahlan Thomson. Brand design by Abhilasha Dewan and creative direction by Som Tsoi.</p><p>Original music by Joshua Snethlage.</p><p>Sound mix and mastering by François Goudreault.</p><p>Special thanks to creative consultant Ken Ogasawara.</p><p>Be sure to follow us on social media.</p><ul><li>X:<a href="https://x.com/_policyprompt"> @_policyprompt</a></li><li>IG:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/_policyprompt"> @_policyprompt</a></li></ul><p>Listen to new episodes of <i>Policy Prompt</i> biweekly on major podcast platforms. Questions, comments or suggestions? Reach out to CIGI’s <i>Policy Prompt</i> team at info@policyprompt.io.</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Do emerging technologies inherently serve the greater good? Join Policy Prompt hosts Vass and Paul in a discussion with world-renowned economist Daron Acemoglu, on his recent book Power and Progress: Our Thousand-Year Struggle Over Technology and Prosperity, co-authored with Simon Johnson (PublicAffairs, 2023). Following the launch of this episode, the announcement was made that Acemoglu, Johnson and James Robinson share this year’s Nobel Prize in Economic Sciences for their groundbreaking research on global inequality. The hosts and Acemoglu discuss the implications of technological prowess on the global stage, the impacts of artificial intelligence on the future of work and education, and the building blocks of techno-optimism.</p><p><strong>Mentioned:</strong></p><ul><li>Daron Acemoglu and Simon Johnson, <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/in-the-name-of-progress-our-thousand-year-struggle-over-technology-and-prosperity-simon-johnson/18831501?ean=9781541702530"><i>Power and Progress: Our Thousand-Year Struggle Over Technology and Prosperity</i></a> (PublicAffairs, 2023)</li><li><a href="https://www.goldmansachs.com/intelligence/pages/gs-research/gen-ai-too-much-spend-too-little-benefit/report.pdf?ref=wheresyoured.at"><i>GenAI: Too Much Spend, Too Little Benefit?</i></a> (Goldman Sachs, June 25, 2024)</li></ul><p><strong>Further Reading:</strong></p><ul><li>Daron Acemoglu, “<a href="https://economics.mit.edu/sites/default/files/2024-05/The%20Simple%20Macroeconomics%20of%20AI.pdf">The Simple Macroeconomics of AI</a>” (Massachusetts Institute of Technology, May 12, 2024)</li><li>Robin Wigglesworth, “<a href="https://www.ft.com/content/b375115f-278f-43a3-9a26-31d75e5cd319">Daron Acemoglu is not having all this AI hype</a>” (<i>Financial Times</i>, May 28, 2024)</li><li>Thomas B. Edsall, “<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/05/opinion/will-ai-be-a-creator-or-a-destroyer-of-worlds.html">Will A.I. Be a Creator or a Destroyer of Worlds?”</a> (<i>The New York Times</i>, June 25, 2024)</li><li>Daron Acemoglu and James A. Robinson, <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/555400/the-narrow-corridor-by-daron-acemoglu-and-james-a-robinson/"><i>The Narrow Corridor: States, Societies, and the Fate of Liberty</i></a> (Penguin Random House, 2020)</li></ul><p><strong>In-Show Clips:</strong></p><ul><li>TED with Cathie Wood: “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQEh7d-qa38">Why AI Will Spark Exponential Economic Growth</a>”</li><li>Goldman Sachs: “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXPKhZxsZwE&ab_channel=GoldmanSachs">A skeptical look at AI investment</a>”</li><li>TEDxSioux Falls with Natasha Berg: “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogcSQ-cFRVM&ab_channel=TEDxTalks">Should we let students use ChatGPT?</a>”</li><li>CBC News, <i>About That</i>: “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT8-GlA_rkM&t=216s&ab_channel=CBCNews">AI's hidden climate costs</a>”</li><li>TODAY: “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=najiOPaR37I&ab_channel=TODAY">Teens open up about the impact of social media on their lives</a>”</li></ul><p><strong>Credits:</strong><br /><i>Policy Prompt</i> is produced by Vass Bednar and Paul Samson. Our technical producers are Tim Lewis and Melanie DeBonte. Fact-checking and background research provided by Reanne Cayenne. Marketing by Kahlan Thomson. Brand design by Abhilasha Dewan and creative direction by Som Tsoi.</p><p>Original music by Joshua Snethlage.</p><p>Sound mix and mastering by François Goudreault.</p><p>Special thanks to creative consultant Ken Ogasawara.</p><p>Be sure to follow us on social media.</p><ul><li>X:<a href="https://x.com/_policyprompt"> @_policyprompt</a></li><li>IG:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/_policyprompt"> @_policyprompt</a></li></ul><p>Listen to new episodes of <i>Policy Prompt</i> biweekly on major podcast platforms. Questions, comments or suggestions? Reach out to CIGI’s <i>Policy Prompt</i> team at info@policyprompt.io.</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, the Policy Prompt hosts are joined by Grant Bollmer and Katherine Guinness, authors of The Influencer Factory: A Marxist Theory of Corporate Personhood on YouTube (Stanford University Press, 2024), to discuss the evolving landscape of influencer culture. The episode touches on the growing phenomenon of “uncancelability” among influencers, the rise of artificial intelligence–powered avatars and the impact of fluctuating platform regulations.</p><p><strong>Mentioned:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.sup.org/books/title/?id=36787"><i>The Influencer Factory: A Marxist Theory of Corporate Personhood on YouTube</i></a> (Stanford University Press, 2024)</li><li><a href="https://influencermarketinghub.com/about-us/">The Influencer Marketing Hub</a> <a href="https://influencermarketinghub.com/influencer-marketing-benchmark-report/">claims</a> that the worldwide influencer marketing industry is worth nearly US$21.1 billion, a <a href="https://influencermarketinghub.com/influencer-marketing-statistics/">29 percent jump from 2022</a></li><li>Jon Porter, “<a href="https://www.theverge.com/23651507/tiktok-ban-us-news">TikTok’s big day in court is here: all the news on attempts to ban the video platform</a>” (<i>The Verge</i>, September 16, 2024)</li><li>AI Influencer profile, Miquela “Lil Miquela” Sousa: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lilmiquela/">Miquela (@lilmiquela) Instagram photos and videos</a>; Eric Chang, “<a href="https://www.vogue.com/article/lilmiquela-miquela-sousa-instagram-it-girl-digital-simulation">@LilMiquela is an Instagram IT Girl, Social Influencer, and Recording Artist — She’s Also a Digital Simulation</a>” (<i>Vogue</i>, August 17, 2017)</li></ul><p><strong>Further Reading:</strong></p><ul><li>Grant Bollmer’s <a href="https://grantbollmer.com/">official website</a></li><li>Katherine Guinness’s <a href="https://katherineguinness.com/">official website</a></li><li>Grant Bollmer’s <a href="https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/materialist-media-theory-9781501337116/"><i>Materialist Media Theory: An Introduction</i></a> (Bloomsbury, 2019)</li><li>Grant Bollmer’s <a href="https://uk.sagepub.com/en-gb/eur/theorizing-digital-cultures/book249651"><i>Theorizing Digital Cultures</i></a> (Sage, 2018)</li><li><a href="https://www.intellectbooks.com/contemporary-absurdities-existential-crises-and-visual-art"><i>Contemporary Absurdities, Existential Crises, and Visual Art</i></a>, edited by Katherine Guinness and Charlotte Kent (Intellectual Books, forthcoming October 2024)</li></ul><p><strong>In-Show Clips:</strong></p><ul><li>Mia Maples: “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J98J6aaAK3c">Testing Tiktok VIRAL Products</a>”</li><li>A Beautiful Mess: “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNRj5EO_iKw">Elsie’s Home Tour Video</a>”</li><li>MrBeast: “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuhE6PYnRMc">Train Vs Giant Pit</a>”</li><li>StarTalk: “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21yg9JnCgUo&ab_channel=StarTalk">William Shatner Has Questions for Neil deGrasse Tyson</a>”</li><li>BeFullyDevoted: “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFAw3T6vYnk">THE DAILY GRACE CO HAUL</a>”</li><li>Shane Dawson: “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUf2-sjGqQw">The Secret World of Jeffree Starr</a>”</li><li>The Try Guys: “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsye9ukf238">the new try guys</a>”</li><li>Lil Miquela: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lilmiquela/">Miquela (@lilmiquela) Instagram photos and videos</a></li></ul><p><strong>Credits:</strong><br /><i>Policy Prompt</i> is produced by Vass Bednar and Paul Samson. Our technical producers are Tim Lewis and Melanie DeBonte. Fact-checking and background research provided by Reanne Cayenne. Marketing by Kahlan Thomson. Brand design by Abhilasha Dewan and creative direction by Som Tsoi.</p><p>Original music by Joshua Snethlage.</p><p>Sound mix and mastering by François Goudreault.</p><p>Special thanks to creative consultant Ken Ogasawara.</p><p>Be sure to follow us on social media.</p><ul><li>X:<a href="https://x.com/_policyprompt"> @_policyprompt</a></li><li>IG:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/_policyprompt"> @_policyprompt</a></li></ul><p>Listen to new episodes of <i>Policy Prompt</i> biweekly on major podcast platforms. Questions, comments or suggestions? Reach out to CIGI’s <i>Policy Prompt</i> team at info@policyprompt.io.</p>
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