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This year has seen a dramatic shift in the political landscape with President Joe Biden&apos;s withdrawal from the 2024 election and endorsement of his Vice President Kamala Harris to replace him at the top of the Democratic ticket. Against a backdrop of widespread protests over the United States’ Middle East policies, contentious presidential campaigns, and unsettling instances of political violence, we find ourselves navigating a period of significant uncertainty. The echoes of the 2016 election, when &quot;no matter what happens&quot; became a catchphrase of unpredictability and upheaval, resonate more than ever.

As we look back over the past eight years—marked by former President Trump’s felony conviction, a conservative Supreme Court reshaping our nation&apos;s framework, and a growing erosion of trust in democratic institutions, this series lifts up the voices of esteemed thought leaders, activists, and former civil servants.  Their insights on the election&apos;s potential implications and strategies for advancing racial equity in the years ahead will help us navigate the future, &quot;no matter what happens.</description>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In the fifth installment of <i>Reflections: A Race Forward Podcast, recorded at the National Immigrant Integration Conference 2021,  </i>Jeff Chang, Senior Advisor at Race Forward, Butterfly Lab for Immigrant Narrative Strategy tells Race Forward’s Hendel Leiva, <i>“It's been really important for a lot of folks, many who are at this conference, to be able to encourage folks to really understand how anti-Blackness works in the context of immigration reform. And so I think the idea of solidarity is something that needs to really be put into practice.” </i></p><p> </p><p>Jeff also talks about the process of working with the brilliant minds brought together for Race Forward’s Butterfly Lab for Immigrant Narrative Strategy, and how he envisions narrative work leading to impactful long-term wins. </p><p> </p><p><strong>About, Jeff Chang: </strong>https://bit.ly/3ArvCpg</p><p> </p><p><strong>Executive Producers:</strong> Hendel Leiva & Cheryl Cato Blakemore </p><p><strong>Associate Producer:</strong> Kendy Solis</p><p> </p><p><strong>Produced in collaboration with the National Partnership For New Americans</strong></p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In the sixth installment of <i>Reflections: A Race Forward Podcast, recorded at the National Immigrant Integration Conference 2021, </i>Jonathan Jayes-Green (they/them), Vice President of Programs at Marguerite Casey Foundation, tells Race Forward’s Hendel Leiva,<i>“I know that some folks might not be as happy with us, like the fact that we, as a movement over the years, with the language that we use, through the strategies that we pursued, through the narratives that we've told, have picked winners and losers — have picked the good and the bad immigrants. Have painted a story of undocumented young people as myself as more worthy of protection than my parents and other folks who might not be as young, who might not have the same clean and perfect narrative of who we are.” </i></p><p>In this episode, Jonathan talks about their lived experience as an organizer at the intersections of immigration and racial justice, and the very real consequences that come from not centering the most marginalized communities in liberation work. </p><p> </p><p>*Recorded after the National Immigrant Integration Conference</p><p> </p><p><strong>About, Jonathan Jayes-Green: </strong>https://bit.ly/3IrLCu2</p><p> </p><p><strong>Executive Producers:</strong> Hendel Leiva & Cheryl Cato Blakemore</p><p><strong>Associate Producer:</strong><i> </i>Kendy Solis</p><p> </p><p><strong>Produced in collaboration with the National Partnership For New Americans </strong></p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In the seventh installment of <i>Reflections: A Race Forward Podcast, recorded at the National Immigrant Integration Conference 2021, </i>Bilal Askaryar, Communications Coordinator, #WelcomeWithDignity Campaign, tells Race Forward’s Hendel Leiva, <i>“Afghans are used to being forgotten, used to being the number one story in the news for a week, two weeks, a month, and then not ever being talked about again. And so one thing that we've learned is that when the moment hits, you seize it! We need to make sure that we're building the capacity among our leaders now so that when there is another moment, we are able to get into the right spaces and demand that we're at the table.” </i></p><p> </p><p>Listen in as Bilial talks about the mental preparation he had to undergo to speak at the National Immigrant Integration Conference about the humanitarian crisis caused by the U.S. military’s sudden withdrawal in August 2020, and the powerful message he was able to give to the audience. </p><p> </p><p><strong>About, Bilal Askarya: </strong>https://bit.ly/3KLfrrA</p><p> </p><p><strong>Executive Producers:</strong> Hendel Leiva & Cheryl Cato Blakemore </p><p><strong>Associate Producer</strong>: Kendy Solis</p><p> </p><p><strong>Produced in collaboration with the National Partnership For New Americans</strong></p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In the final installment of <i>Reflections: A Race Forward Podcast, recorded at the National Immigrant Integration Conference 2021, </i>Guerline Jozef, Co-Founder and Executive Director of the Haitian Bridge Alliance, Inc. (HBA), tells Race Forward’s Hendel Leiva, <i>“Speaking as myself, as a person who fought, as a person who knocked on doors and push so that President Biden and his administration can be in power, can be in place, because we had hope that saving the soul of America would include making sure that little girls and boys coming, knocking, asking for protection will be heard and will be given protection. So I am frustrated, I am pissed off and we demand accountability.” </i></p><p>Listen in as Guerline shares her feelings on witnessing the treatment of Haitian migrants at the U.S./ Mexico border, the hurt and outrage that was felt when the images of Haitian migrants came to light, and how anti-blackness within the immigration system is a root cause that must be addressed. </p><p> </p><p><strong>About, Guerline Jozef: </strong>https://bit.ly/3Itw3C9</p><p> </p><p><strong>Executive Producers: </strong>Hendel Leiva & Cheryl Cato Blakemore </p><p><strong>Associate Producer:</strong> Kendy Solis</p><p> </p><p><strong>Produced in collaboration with the National Partnership For New Americans</strong></p>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the final installment of <i>Reflections: A Race Forward Podcast, recorded at the National Immigrant Integration Conference 2021, </i>Guerline Jozef, Co-Founder and Executive Director of the Haitian Bridge Alliance, Inc. (HBA), tells Race Forward’s Hendel Leiva, <i>“Speaking as myself, as a person who fought, as a person who knocked on doors and push so that President Biden and his administration can be in power, can be in place, because we had hope that saving the soul of America would include making sure that little girls and boys coming, knocking, asking for protection will be heard and will be given protection. So I am frustrated, I am pissed off and we demand accountability.” </i></p><p>Listen in as Guerline shares her feelings on witnessing the treatment of Haitian migrants at the U.S./ Mexico border, the hurt and outrage that was felt when the images of Haitian migrants came to light, and how anti-blackness within the immigration system is a root cause that must be addressed. </p><p> </p><p><strong>About, Guerline Jozef: </strong>https://bit.ly/3Itw3C9</p><p> </p><p><strong>Executive Producers: </strong>Hendel Leiva & Cheryl Cato Blakemore </p><p><strong>Associate Producer:</strong> Kendy Solis</p><p> </p><p><strong>Produced in collaboration with the National Partnership For New Americans</strong></p>
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