<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0">
  <channel>
    <atom:link href="https://feeds.simplecast.com/lPVocIyH" rel="self" title="MP3 Audio" type="application/atom+xml"/>
    <atom:link href="https://simplecast.superfeedr.com" rel="hub" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"/>
    <generator>https://simplecast.com</generator>
    <title>2 PKs in a Pod</title>
    <description>Did you know that according to the Pew Research Center, 60% of Korean Americans identify as Christian?
This podcast explores the other 40%. 
We are Sharon Kwon and Annie Lim - Two Korean women, born Pastors’ Kids (PKs), 1.5-generation immigrants, coming together to deconstruct and discuss various related topics on religion and immigration through our unique lens, and we hope to find friends and listeners along the way. Annie is our resident historian and Sharon is our exvangelical psychotherapist. Join us as we process our childhoods and upbringings in the Korean church and explore the why&apos;s and how&apos;s of the Korean American Religious Immigrant experience.</description>
    <copyright>2026 - Sharon Kwon and Annie Lim - 2 PKs in a Pod</copyright>
    <language>en</language>
    <pubDate>Wed, 1 Jul 2026 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
    <lastBuildDate>Wed, 1 Jul 2026 10:00:13 +0000</lastBuildDate>
    <image>
      <link>https://2pkspod.com</link>
      <title>2 PKs in a Pod</title>
      <url>https://image.simplecastcdn.com/images/47a5ecad-5509-4964-8b75-d8fd1693f6cf/58ccd66d-30ce-43ef-ae04-eaeffefb05c4/3000x3000/chatgpt_image_mar_13_2026_034511_pm.jpg?aid=rss_feed</url>
    </image>
    <link>https://2pkspod.com</link>
    <itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type>
    <itunes:summary>Did you know that according to the Pew Research Center, 60% of Korean Americans identify as Christian?
This podcast explores the other 40%. 
We are Sharon Kwon and Annie Lim - Two Korean women, born Pastors’ Kids (PKs), 1.5-generation immigrants, coming together to deconstruct and discuss various related topics on religion and immigration through our unique lens, and we hope to find friends and listeners along the way. Annie is our resident historian and Sharon is our exvangelical psychotherapist. Join us as we process our childhoods and upbringings in the Korean church and explore the why&apos;s and how&apos;s of the Korean American Religious Immigrant experience.</itunes:summary>
    <itunes:author>Annie Lim, Sharon Kwon</itunes:author>
    <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
    <itunes:image href="https://image.simplecastcdn.com/images/47a5ecad-5509-4964-8b75-d8fd1693f6cf/58ccd66d-30ce-43ef-ae04-eaeffefb05c4/3000x3000/chatgpt_image_mar_13_2026_034511_pm.jpg?aid=rss_feed"/>
    <itunes:new-feed-url>https://feeds.simplecast.com/lPVocIyH</itunes:new-feed-url>
    <itunes:keywords>pastor&apos;s kid, korean history, religious trauma, mental health, asian american, korean mental health, korean american, progressive christian, pk, exvangelical</itunes:keywords>
    <itunes:owner>
      <itunes:name>Sharon Kwon and Annie Lim</itunes:name>
      <itunes:email>2pkspod@gmail.com</itunes:email>
    </itunes:owner>
    <itunes:category text="Religion &amp; Spirituality">
      <itunes:category text="Christianity"/>
    </itunes:category>
    <itunes:category text="Society &amp; Culture">
      <itunes:category text="Relationships"/>
    </itunes:category>
    <itunes:category text="History"/>
    <item>
      <guid isPermaLink="false">38bb8fda-41e3-4770-affa-9e9ee701af4a</guid>
      <title>Colleges and Careers</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of 2 PKs in a Pod, Annie and Sharon welcome their very first guest, <a href="https://davidkim2020.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">David Kim</a>, an attorney for LA County and a former runner for US Congress, who shares his honest journey through college, career changes, and the unexpected turns that shaped his life. Through David's story, they explore the pressure to choose the "right" path, the fear of making the wrong decision, and how our identities can become tied to our education and careers.</p>
<p>Together, they reflect on the "what ifs" that so many people carry into adulthood, the weight of family and cultural expectations, and the realization that success rarely follows a straight line. Rather than offering simple answers, this conversation encourages listeners to see detours, setbacks, and changing directions not as failures, but as experiences that often lead to growth in ways they never expected.</p>
<p>00:00 – Welcome to Colleges & Careers<br>
 04:32 – Meet David Kim, our very first guest<br>
 10:18 – Why education feels so high-stakes in Korean immigrant families<br>
 17:45 – The pressure to choose the “right” school and career<br>
 25:10 – Law school, identity, and figuring it out as you go<br>
 33:58 – Leaving prestige behind for more meaningful work<br>
 42:36 – Serving vulnerable communities through law<br>
 43:35 – How David rallied the Korean Christian community in his political campaign despite being gay<br>
 52:20 – What success looks like after the “perfect path”<br>
 01:02:48 – Regrets, detours, and advice for younger listeners<br>
 01:13:12 – Final reflections</p>
<p>Sharon Kwon, LCSW, is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker, psychotherapist, writer, and founder of <a href="https://www.bodhiawaretherapy.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Bodhi Aware Therapy</a>. Sharon specializes in working with Korean Americans who have struggled with overcoming religious trauma and spiritual abuse. She has worked in private and community mental health settings with immigrant families struggling with intergenerational trauma. Sharon’s writing has been published in Huff Post, SLATE Magazine, SELF Magazine, and Psychology Today. Sharon is an avid traveller and fan of all things “K”—dramas, food, soccer, etc. She is currently based in Los Angeles, CA. Get to know her on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/talkwithsharon" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">@talkwithsharon</a> or via her website: <a href="http://www.sharonkwon.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">www.sharonkwon.com</a>.</p>
<p>Sion Lim (임시온) is a self-proclaimed “Koreanist” with a special passion to learn more about Korean Diaspora all over the world. She goes by her naturalized middle name, Annie. Her desire to connect with her K-side stems from her days as a graduate student at SOAS and as a former educator at Osaka Board of Education and Stanford University.  Before becoming a podcaster, Annie's latest career adventure was with Silicon Valley corporations (fun!) ranging from Samsung to video games before the AI takeover. She currently resides in San Francisco with her husband and 3 kitties and would share more with you through her instagram, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/sionannielim/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">@sionannielim</a>. </p>
<p>If you enjoyed our podcast, please don't forget to rate us and leave a comment! Follow us on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/2pkspod/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">@2pkspod</a> to connect with us.</p>
<p><p><strong>Episode Credits:</strong></p><p>Produced by Sharon Kwon and Annie Lim</p><p>Mixed by Abdul Wasay</p><p>Music: <a href="https://www.epidemicsound.com/music/tracks/72f3311e-1aa0-41b3-9366-29c0cbb7e127/">Risen by Gavin Luke</a> via Epidemic Sounds</p><p><strong>Links:</strong></p><p>Follow us on our <a href="https://2pkspod.com/">website</a> and on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/2pkspod">Instagram</a>!</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 1 Jul 2026 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>2pkspod@gmail.com (Sharon Kwon, Annie Lim, David Kim)</author>
      <link>https://2pkspod.com/episodes/colleges-and-careers-KjlrnWD7</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of 2 PKs in a Pod, Annie and Sharon welcome their very first guest, <a href="https://davidkim2020.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">David Kim</a>, an attorney for LA County and a former runner for US Congress, who shares his honest journey through college, career changes, and the unexpected turns that shaped his life. Through David's story, they explore the pressure to choose the "right" path, the fear of making the wrong decision, and how our identities can become tied to our education and careers.</p>
<p>Together, they reflect on the "what ifs" that so many people carry into adulthood, the weight of family and cultural expectations, and the realization that success rarely follows a straight line. Rather than offering simple answers, this conversation encourages listeners to see detours, setbacks, and changing directions not as failures, but as experiences that often lead to growth in ways they never expected.</p>
<p>00:00 – Welcome to Colleges & Careers<br>
 04:32 – Meet David Kim, our very first guest<br>
 10:18 – Why education feels so high-stakes in Korean immigrant families<br>
 17:45 – The pressure to choose the “right” school and career<br>
 25:10 – Law school, identity, and figuring it out as you go<br>
 33:58 – Leaving prestige behind for more meaningful work<br>
 42:36 – Serving vulnerable communities through law<br>
 43:35 – How David rallied the Korean Christian community in his political campaign despite being gay<br>
 52:20 – What success looks like after the “perfect path”<br>
 01:02:48 – Regrets, detours, and advice for younger listeners<br>
 01:13:12 – Final reflections</p>
<p>Sharon Kwon, LCSW, is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker, psychotherapist, writer, and founder of <a href="https://www.bodhiawaretherapy.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Bodhi Aware Therapy</a>. Sharon specializes in working with Korean Americans who have struggled with overcoming religious trauma and spiritual abuse. She has worked in private and community mental health settings with immigrant families struggling with intergenerational trauma. Sharon’s writing has been published in Huff Post, SLATE Magazine, SELF Magazine, and Psychology Today. Sharon is an avid traveller and fan of all things “K”—dramas, food, soccer, etc. She is currently based in Los Angeles, CA. Get to know her on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/talkwithsharon" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">@talkwithsharon</a> or via her website: <a href="http://www.sharonkwon.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">www.sharonkwon.com</a>.</p>
<p>Sion Lim (임시온) is a self-proclaimed “Koreanist” with a special passion to learn more about Korean Diaspora all over the world. She goes by her naturalized middle name, Annie. Her desire to connect with her K-side stems from her days as a graduate student at SOAS and as a former educator at Osaka Board of Education and Stanford University.  Before becoming a podcaster, Annie's latest career adventure was with Silicon Valley corporations (fun!) ranging from Samsung to video games before the AI takeover. She currently resides in San Francisco with her husband and 3 kitties and would share more with you through her instagram, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/sionannielim/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">@sionannielim</a>. </p>
<p>If you enjoyed our podcast, please don't forget to rate us and leave a comment! Follow us on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/2pkspod/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">@2pkspod</a> to connect with us.</p>
<p><p><strong>Episode Credits:</strong></p><p>Produced by Sharon Kwon and Annie Lim</p><p>Mixed by Abdul Wasay</p><p>Music: <a href="https://www.epidemicsound.com/music/tracks/72f3311e-1aa0-41b3-9366-29c0cbb7e127/">Risen by Gavin Luke</a> via Epidemic Sounds</p><p><strong>Links:</strong></p><p>Follow us on our <a href="https://2pkspod.com/">website</a> and on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/2pkspod">Instagram</a>!</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
      <enclosure length="74361284" type="audio/mpeg" url="https://cdn.simplecast.com/media/audio/transcoded/262367d2-6043-4e6e-975a-21dd387f375b/e499379f-24a7-4a8e-a641-f2a08ab9e114/episodes/audio/group/0f782bc8-9611-4d47-9e5f-8b19869fbee0/group-item/a9e0f015-9c02-4518-b79f-89fd9c8f717c/128_default_tc.mp3?aid=rss_feed&amp;feed=lPVocIyH"/>
      <itunes:title>Colleges and Careers</itunes:title>
      <itunes:author>Sharon Kwon, Annie Lim, David Kim</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://image.simplecastcdn.com/images/47a5ecad-5509-4964-8b75-d8fd1693f6cf/fd6e477d-425c-402f-995e-8e15edab3e2c/3000x3000/episode_42.jpg?aid=rss_feed"/>
      <itunes:duration>01:17:27</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>In this episode of 2 PKs in a Pod, Annie and Sharon welcome their very first guest, David Kim, an attorney for LA County and a former runner for US Congress, who shares his honest journey through college, career changes, and the unexpected turns that shaped his life. Through David&apos;s story, they explore the pressure to choose the &quot;right&quot; path, the fear of making the wrong decision, and how our identities can become tied to our education and careers.

Together, they reflect on the &quot;what ifs&quot; that so many people carry into adulthood, the weight of family and cultural expectations, and the realization that success rarely follows a straight line. Rather than offering simple answers, this conversation encourages listeners to see detours, setbacks, and changing directions not as failures, but as experiences that often lead to growth in ways they never expected.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode of 2 PKs in a Pod, Annie and Sharon welcome their very first guest, David Kim, an attorney for LA County and a former runner for US Congress, who shares his honest journey through college, career changes, and the unexpected turns that shaped his life. Through David&apos;s story, they explore the pressure to choose the &quot;right&quot; path, the fear of making the wrong decision, and how our identities can become tied to our education and careers.

Together, they reflect on the &quot;what ifs&quot; that so many people carry into adulthood, the weight of family and cultural expectations, and the realization that success rarely follows a straight line. Rather than offering simple answers, this conversation encourages listeners to see detours, setbacks, and changing directions not as failures, but as experiences that often lead to growth in ways they never expected.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:keywords>prestige culture, education pressure, parental expectations, korean immigrant families, second generation korean american, korean american, college pressure, career pressure, pks, asian american success, pastor’s kid podcast, career regrets, pastor’s kids, immigrant family sacrifice, immigrant parent expectations, korean american podcast, korean church culture, model minority myth, korean american stories, pk podcast, 2pks in a pod, college and career expectations, success and identity</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
    </item>
    <item>
      <guid isPermaLink="false">6320aa9d-eb68-45e0-9c09-782ff02ebb4d</guid>
      <title>K-cults</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of 2 PKs in a Pod, Annie and Sharon share stories about accidentally getting involved with groups they later realized were cults, discuss why high-control religious movements continue to thrive, and reflect on how growing up in church shaped the way they recognized (or failed to recognize) the warning signs.</p>
<p>In this episode we cover:</p>
<p>02:15 — Annie shares how she accidentally attended Shekinah Church during a high school summer program.</p>
<p>09:42 — Discussion of why cults often appeal to people seeking community and certainty.</p>
<p>17:30 — Comparing Shincheonji, World Mission Society Church of God, and other Korean high-control groups.</p>
<p>26:08 — Growing up as PKs and how church culture affected our ability to recognize red flags.</p>
<p>35:11 — Why intelligent people still get drawn into cults.</p>
<p>43:20 — Lessons learned and practical warning signs listeners should watch for.</p>
<p>Sharon Kwon, LCSW, is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker, psychotherapist, writer, and founder of <a href="https://www.bodhiawaretherapy.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Bodhi Aware Therapy</a>. Sharon specializes in working with Korean Americans who have struggled with overcoming religious trauma and spiritual abuse. She has worked in private and community mental health settings with immigrant families struggling with intergenerational trauma. Sharon’s writing has been published in Huff Post, SLATE Magazine, SELF Magazine, and Psychology Today. Sharon is an avid traveller and fan of all things “K”—dramas, food, soccer, etc. She is currently based in Los Angeles, CA. Get to know her on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/talkwithsharon" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">@talkwithsharon</a> or via her website: <a href="http://www.sharonkwon.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">www.sharonkwon.com</a>.</p>
<p>Sion Lim (임시온) is a self-proclaimed “Koreanist” with a special passion to learn more about Korean Diaspora all over the world. She goes by her naturalized middle name, Annie. Her desire to connect with her K-side stems from her days as a graduate student at SOAS and as a former educator at Osaka Board of Education and Stanford University.  Before becoming a podcaster, Annie's latest career adventure was with Silicon Valley corporations (fun!) ranging from Samsung to video games before the AI takeover. She currently resides in San Francisco with her husband and 3 kitties and would share more with you through her instagram, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/sionannielim/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">@sionannielim</a>. </p>
<p>If you enjoyed our podcast, please don't forget to rate us and leave a comment! Follow us on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/2pkspod/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">@2pkspod</a> to connect with us.</p>
<p><p><strong>Episode Credits:</strong></p><p>Produced by Sharon Kwon and Annie Lim</p><p>Mixed by Abdul Wasay</p><p>Music: <a href="https://www.epidemicsound.com/music/tracks/72f3311e-1aa0-41b3-9366-29c0cbb7e127/">Risen by Gavin Luke</a> via Epidemic Sounds</p><p><strong>Links:</strong></p><p>Follow us on our <a href="https://2pkspod.com/">website</a> and on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/2pkspod">Instagram</a>!</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2026 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>2pkspod@gmail.com (Sharon Kwon, Annie Lim)</author>
      <link>https://2pkspod.com/episodes/k-cults-341m9gg1</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of 2 PKs in a Pod, Annie and Sharon share stories about accidentally getting involved with groups they later realized were cults, discuss why high-control religious movements continue to thrive, and reflect on how growing up in church shaped the way they recognized (or failed to recognize) the warning signs.</p>
<p>In this episode we cover:</p>
<p>02:15 — Annie shares how she accidentally attended Shekinah Church during a high school summer program.</p>
<p>09:42 — Discussion of why cults often appeal to people seeking community and certainty.</p>
<p>17:30 — Comparing Shincheonji, World Mission Society Church of God, and other Korean high-control groups.</p>
<p>26:08 — Growing up as PKs and how church culture affected our ability to recognize red flags.</p>
<p>35:11 — Why intelligent people still get drawn into cults.</p>
<p>43:20 — Lessons learned and practical warning signs listeners should watch for.</p>
<p>Sharon Kwon, LCSW, is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker, psychotherapist, writer, and founder of <a href="https://www.bodhiawaretherapy.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Bodhi Aware Therapy</a>. Sharon specializes in working with Korean Americans who have struggled with overcoming religious trauma and spiritual abuse. She has worked in private and community mental health settings with immigrant families struggling with intergenerational trauma. Sharon’s writing has been published in Huff Post, SLATE Magazine, SELF Magazine, and Psychology Today. Sharon is an avid traveller and fan of all things “K”—dramas, food, soccer, etc. She is currently based in Los Angeles, CA. Get to know her on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/talkwithsharon" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">@talkwithsharon</a> or via her website: <a href="http://www.sharonkwon.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">www.sharonkwon.com</a>.</p>
<p>Sion Lim (임시온) is a self-proclaimed “Koreanist” with a special passion to learn more about Korean Diaspora all over the world. She goes by her naturalized middle name, Annie. Her desire to connect with her K-side stems from her days as a graduate student at SOAS and as a former educator at Osaka Board of Education and Stanford University.  Before becoming a podcaster, Annie's latest career adventure was with Silicon Valley corporations (fun!) ranging from Samsung to video games before the AI takeover. She currently resides in San Francisco with her husband and 3 kitties and would share more with you through her instagram, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/sionannielim/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">@sionannielim</a>. </p>
<p>If you enjoyed our podcast, please don't forget to rate us and leave a comment! Follow us on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/2pkspod/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">@2pkspod</a> to connect with us.</p>
<p><p><strong>Episode Credits:</strong></p><p>Produced by Sharon Kwon and Annie Lim</p><p>Mixed by Abdul Wasay</p><p>Music: <a href="https://www.epidemicsound.com/music/tracks/72f3311e-1aa0-41b3-9366-29c0cbb7e127/">Risen by Gavin Luke</a> via Epidemic Sounds</p><p><strong>Links:</strong></p><p>Follow us on our <a href="https://2pkspod.com/">website</a> and on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/2pkspod">Instagram</a>!</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
      <enclosure length="45981437" type="audio/mpeg" url="https://cdn.simplecast.com/media/audio/transcoded/262367d2-6043-4e6e-975a-21dd387f375b/e499379f-24a7-4a8e-a641-f2a08ab9e114/episodes/audio/group/6d75d8c1-a047-4af0-bdb9-909b08455e2e/group-item/460dea32-6eb3-49ed-a389-de335678267a/128_default_tc.mp3?aid=rss_feed&amp;feed=lPVocIyH"/>
      <itunes:title>K-cults</itunes:title>
      <itunes:author>Sharon Kwon, Annie Lim</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://image.simplecastcdn.com/images/47a5ecad-5509-4964-8b75-d8fd1693f6cf/8dfe9262-f084-4a42-a912-7dd834800c5c/3000x3000/logo.jpg?aid=rss_feed"/>
      <itunes:duration>00:47:53</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>In this episode of 2 PKs in a Pod, Annie and Sharon share stories about accidentally getting involved with groups they later realized were cults, discuss why high-control religious movements continue to thrive, and reflect on how growing up in church shaped the way they recognized (or failed to recognize) the warning signs.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode of 2 PKs in a Pod, Annie and Sharon share stories about accidentally getting involved with groups they later realized were cults, discuss why high-control religious movements continue to thrive, and reflect on how growing up in church shaped the way they recognized (or failed to recognize) the warning signs.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:keywords>church kids, growing up in a church, exvangelical, faitha nd identity, shekinah church, pastor&apos;s kid, third culture kids, pastor&apos;s kids, church culture, korean american, pk, spiritual abuse, high-control religion, religious trauma, former pastor&apos;s kids, christianity, korean church, cults, korean cult, deconstruction, ex-pk, shincheonji, spirituality</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
    </item>
    <item>
      <guid isPermaLink="false">75bdeed6-9a9e-4060-bda2-118763e8e213</guid>
      <title>VBS and Bible Camps</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of 2 PKs in a Pod, Annie and Sharon reminisce about their childhood summers spent at VBS (Vacation Bible School) and Bible Camps. They share their positive and negative experiences as both attendees and also organizers of these summer pastimes and what is considered a quintessential part of growing up in a Korean American, Christian household. </p>
<p>In this episode we cover:</p>
<p>04:26 - What's the difference between VBS and Bible camp?</p>
<p>05:09 - History of VBS</p>
<p>06:19 - Why Korean Americans adopted VBS</p>
<p>08:30 - Importance of summer activities for child development</p>
<p>11:15 - Annie's experience organizing VBS for her dad's children's ministry</p>
<p>18:25 - Sharon's experience attending white VBS</p>
<p>23:22 - Mafia, the universal camp game</p>
<p>24:40 - What did we like / what went well regarding VBS?</p>
<p>26:48 - What would we do differently?</p>
<p>30:57 - Next week, we're talking about K-cults!</p>
<p>Sharon Kwon, LCSW, is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker, psychotherapist, writer, and founder of <a href="https://www.bodhiawaretherapy.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Bodhi Aware Therapy</a>. Sharon specializes in working with Korean Americans who have struggled with overcoming religious trauma and spiritual abuse. She has worked in private and community mental health settings with immigrant families struggling with intergenerational trauma. Sharon’s writing has been published in Huff Post, SLATE Magazine, SELF Magazine, and Psychology Today. Sharon is an avid traveller and fan of all things “K”—dramas, food, soccer, etc. She is currently based in Los Angeles, CA. Get to know her on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/talkwithsharon" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">@talkwithsharon</a> or via her website: <a href="http://www.sharonkwon.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">www.sharonkwon.com</a>.</p>
<p>Sion Lim (임시온) is a self-proclaimed “Koreanist” with a special passion to learn more about Korean Diaspora all over the world. She goes by her naturalized middle name, Annie. Her desire to connect with her K-side stems from her days as a graduate student at SOAS and as a former educator at Osaka Board of Education and Stanford University.  Before becoming a podcaster, Annie's latest career adventure was with Silicon Valley corporations (fun!) ranging from Samsung to video games before the AI takeover. She currently resides in San Francisco with her husband and 3 kitties and would share more with you through her instagram, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/sionannielim/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">@sionannielim</a>. </p>
<p>If you enjoyed our podcast, please don't forget to rate us and leave a comment! Follow us on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/2pkspod/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">@2pkspod</a> to connect with us.</p>
<p><p><strong>Episode Credits:</strong></p><p>Produced by Sharon Kwon and Annie Lim</p><p>Mixed by Abdul Wasay</p><p>Music: <a href="https://www.epidemicsound.com/music/tracks/72f3311e-1aa0-41b3-9366-29c0cbb7e127/">Risen by Gavin Luke</a> via Epidemic Sounds</p><p><strong>Links:</strong></p><p>Follow us on our <a href="https://2pkspod.com/">website</a> and on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/2pkspod">Instagram</a>!</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 3 Jun 2026 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>2pkspod@gmail.com (Sharon Kwon, Annie Lim)</author>
      <link>https://2pkspod.com/episodes/vbs-p__ABSIX</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of 2 PKs in a Pod, Annie and Sharon reminisce about their childhood summers spent at VBS (Vacation Bible School) and Bible Camps. They share their positive and negative experiences as both attendees and also organizers of these summer pastimes and what is considered a quintessential part of growing up in a Korean American, Christian household. </p>
<p>In this episode we cover:</p>
<p>04:26 - What's the difference between VBS and Bible camp?</p>
<p>05:09 - History of VBS</p>
<p>06:19 - Why Korean Americans adopted VBS</p>
<p>08:30 - Importance of summer activities for child development</p>
<p>11:15 - Annie's experience organizing VBS for her dad's children's ministry</p>
<p>18:25 - Sharon's experience attending white VBS</p>
<p>23:22 - Mafia, the universal camp game</p>
<p>24:40 - What did we like / what went well regarding VBS?</p>
<p>26:48 - What would we do differently?</p>
<p>30:57 - Next week, we're talking about K-cults!</p>
<p>Sharon Kwon, LCSW, is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker, psychotherapist, writer, and founder of <a href="https://www.bodhiawaretherapy.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Bodhi Aware Therapy</a>. Sharon specializes in working with Korean Americans who have struggled with overcoming religious trauma and spiritual abuse. She has worked in private and community mental health settings with immigrant families struggling with intergenerational trauma. Sharon’s writing has been published in Huff Post, SLATE Magazine, SELF Magazine, and Psychology Today. Sharon is an avid traveller and fan of all things “K”—dramas, food, soccer, etc. She is currently based in Los Angeles, CA. Get to know her on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/talkwithsharon" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">@talkwithsharon</a> or via her website: <a href="http://www.sharonkwon.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">www.sharonkwon.com</a>.</p>
<p>Sion Lim (임시온) is a self-proclaimed “Koreanist” with a special passion to learn more about Korean Diaspora all over the world. She goes by her naturalized middle name, Annie. Her desire to connect with her K-side stems from her days as a graduate student at SOAS and as a former educator at Osaka Board of Education and Stanford University.  Before becoming a podcaster, Annie's latest career adventure was with Silicon Valley corporations (fun!) ranging from Samsung to video games before the AI takeover. She currently resides in San Francisco with her husband and 3 kitties and would share more with you through her instagram, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/sionannielim/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">@sionannielim</a>. </p>
<p>If you enjoyed our podcast, please don't forget to rate us and leave a comment! Follow us on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/2pkspod/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">@2pkspod</a> to connect with us.</p>
<p><p><strong>Episode Credits:</strong></p><p>Produced by Sharon Kwon and Annie Lim</p><p>Mixed by Abdul Wasay</p><p>Music: <a href="https://www.epidemicsound.com/music/tracks/72f3311e-1aa0-41b3-9366-29c0cbb7e127/">Risen by Gavin Luke</a> via Epidemic Sounds</p><p><strong>Links:</strong></p><p>Follow us on our <a href="https://2pkspod.com/">website</a> and on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/2pkspod">Instagram</a>!</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
      <enclosure length="30723837" type="audio/mpeg" url="https://cdn.simplecast.com/media/audio/transcoded/262367d2-6043-4e6e-975a-21dd387f375b/e499379f-24a7-4a8e-a641-f2a08ab9e114/episodes/audio/group/a5ea4398-b206-422e-ae83-4c536ceccb0c/group-item/a367fe20-3792-4899-84b7-7f3ffb11862e/128_default_tc.mp3?aid=rss_feed&amp;feed=lPVocIyH"/>
      <itunes:title>VBS and Bible Camps</itunes:title>
      <itunes:author>Sharon Kwon, Annie Lim</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://image.simplecastcdn.com/images/47a5ecad-5509-4964-8b75-d8fd1693f6cf/627fa352-efea-4ea7-9948-d4d763661427/3000x3000/episode_2.jpg?aid=rss_feed"/>
      <itunes:duration>00:32:00</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>In this episode of 2 PKs in a Pod, Annie and Sharon reminisce about their childhood summers spent at VBS (Vacation Bible School) and Bible Camps. They share their experiences as both attendees and also organizers of these summer pastimes and what is considered a quintessential part of growing up in a Korean American, Christian household. </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode of 2 PKs in a Pod, Annie and Sharon reminisce about their childhood summers spent at VBS (Vacation Bible School) and Bible Camps. They share their experiences as both attendees and also organizers of these summer pastimes and what is considered a quintessential part of growing up in a Korean American, Christian household. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:keywords>exvangelical, pastor&apos;s kid, deconstructing journey, korean american, vacation bible school, spiritual abuse, korean church trauma, church kid, religious trauma, bible camp, korean church, church camp, deconstruction, korean immigrant, vbs</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
    </item>
    <item>
      <guid isPermaLink="false">641c0b2a-6382-451f-870b-fcfa75ed8839</guid>
      <title>Welcome to 2PKs in a Pod</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>In the first episode of 2 PKs in a Pod, Annie and Sharon explore the historical and sociological context of why Korean Americans are so Christian. They’ll take you back to the Japanese annexation times and through their immigration journeys to the U.S. in the early 90’s. They also share their personal stories of growing up and leaving the Korean church.</p>
<p>In this episode we cover ::</p>
<p>00:00 - Introducing Annie and Sharon</p>
<p>00:31 - What is a PK?</p>
<p>4:11 - Annie’s background in Korean history and living in Japan</p>
<p>4:30 - Sharon’s background in mental health and specialization working with Korean Americans with religious trauma</p>
<p>4:59 - Why did we make a podcast about the PK immigrant life?</p>
<p>5:59 - How did Koreans become so Christian?</p>
<p>8:00 - How churches impacted Korean immigration to the U.S.</p>
<p>8:58 - Confucianism and Christianity </p>
<p>9:40 - Filial piety and collectivism can cause shame and guilt in Korean families</p>
<p>10:15 - Talking about taboo topics destigmatizes shame</p>
<p>12:44 - Annie’s immigration story and strict, Christian upbringing, and how she left the church</p>
<p>18:06 - Sharon’s immigration story and spiritual journey coming back to herself and culture</p>
<p>24:54 - Sharon’s first time in therapy and how she came out to her parents about not being Christian anymore</p>
<p>27:59 - Annie’s current relationship with her parents - “don’t ask, don’t tell”</p>
<p>31:26 - Next episode preview - VBS and Bible camps</p>
<p>Sharon Kwon, LCSW, is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker, psychotherapist, writer, and founder of <a href="https://www.bodhiawaretherapy.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Bodhi Aware Therapy</a>. Sharon specializes in working with Korean Americans who have struggled with overcoming religious trauma and spiritual abuse. She has worked in private and community mental health settings with immigrant families struggling with intergenerational trauma. Sharon’s writing has been published in Huff Post, SLATE Magazine, SELF Magazine, and Psychology Today. Sharon is an avid traveller and fan of all things “K”—dramas, food, soccer, etc. She is currently based in Los Angeles, CA. Get to know her on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/talkwithsharon" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">@talkwithsharon</a> or via her website: <a href="http://www.sharonkwon.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">www.sharonkwon.com</a>.</p>
<p>Sion Lim (임시온) is a self-proclaimed “Koreanist” with a special passion to learn more about Korean Diaspora all over the world. She goes by her naturalized middle name, Annie. Her desire to connect with her K-side stems from her days as a graduate student at SOAS and as a former educator at Osaka Board of Education and Stanford University.  Before becoming a podcaster, Annie's latest career adventure was with Silicon Valley corporations (fun!) ranging from Samsung to video games before the AI takeover. She currently resides in San Francisco with her husband and 3 kitties and would share more with you through her instagram, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/sionannielim/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">@sionannielim</a>. </p>
<p>If you enjoyed our podcast, please don't forget to rate us and leave a comment! Follow us on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/2pkspod/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">@2pkspod</a> to connect with us.</p>
<p><p><strong>Episode Credits:</strong></p><p>Produced by Sharon Kwon and Annie Lim</p><p>Mixed by Abdul Wasay</p><p>Music: <a href="https://www.epidemicsound.com/music/tracks/72f3311e-1aa0-41b3-9366-29c0cbb7e127/">Risen by Gavin Luke</a> via Epidemic Sounds</p><p><strong>Links:</strong></p><p>Follow us on our <a href="https://2pkspod.com/">website</a> and on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/2pkspod">Instagram</a>!</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2026 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>2pkspod@gmail.com (Sharon Kwon and Annie Lim)</author>
      <link>https://2pkspod.com/episodes/welcome-4ZOMgPaT</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the first episode of 2 PKs in a Pod, Annie and Sharon explore the historical and sociological context of why Korean Americans are so Christian. They’ll take you back to the Japanese annexation times and through their immigration journeys to the U.S. in the early 90’s. They also share their personal stories of growing up and leaving the Korean church.</p>
<p>In this episode we cover ::</p>
<p>00:00 - Introducing Annie and Sharon</p>
<p>00:31 - What is a PK?</p>
<p>4:11 - Annie’s background in Korean history and living in Japan</p>
<p>4:30 - Sharon’s background in mental health and specialization working with Korean Americans with religious trauma</p>
<p>4:59 - Why did we make a podcast about the PK immigrant life?</p>
<p>5:59 - How did Koreans become so Christian?</p>
<p>8:00 - How churches impacted Korean immigration to the U.S.</p>
<p>8:58 - Confucianism and Christianity </p>
<p>9:40 - Filial piety and collectivism can cause shame and guilt in Korean families</p>
<p>10:15 - Talking about taboo topics destigmatizes shame</p>
<p>12:44 - Annie’s immigration story and strict, Christian upbringing, and how she left the church</p>
<p>18:06 - Sharon’s immigration story and spiritual journey coming back to herself and culture</p>
<p>24:54 - Sharon’s first time in therapy and how she came out to her parents about not being Christian anymore</p>
<p>27:59 - Annie’s current relationship with her parents - “don’t ask, don’t tell”</p>
<p>31:26 - Next episode preview - VBS and Bible camps</p>
<p>Sharon Kwon, LCSW, is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker, psychotherapist, writer, and founder of <a href="https://www.bodhiawaretherapy.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Bodhi Aware Therapy</a>. Sharon specializes in working with Korean Americans who have struggled with overcoming religious trauma and spiritual abuse. She has worked in private and community mental health settings with immigrant families struggling with intergenerational trauma. Sharon’s writing has been published in Huff Post, SLATE Magazine, SELF Magazine, and Psychology Today. Sharon is an avid traveller and fan of all things “K”—dramas, food, soccer, etc. She is currently based in Los Angeles, CA. Get to know her on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/talkwithsharon" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">@talkwithsharon</a> or via her website: <a href="http://www.sharonkwon.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">www.sharonkwon.com</a>.</p>
<p>Sion Lim (임시온) is a self-proclaimed “Koreanist” with a special passion to learn more about Korean Diaspora all over the world. She goes by her naturalized middle name, Annie. Her desire to connect with her K-side stems from her days as a graduate student at SOAS and as a former educator at Osaka Board of Education and Stanford University.  Before becoming a podcaster, Annie's latest career adventure was with Silicon Valley corporations (fun!) ranging from Samsung to video games before the AI takeover. She currently resides in San Francisco with her husband and 3 kitties and would share more with you through her instagram, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/sionannielim/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">@sionannielim</a>. </p>
<p>If you enjoyed our podcast, please don't forget to rate us and leave a comment! Follow us on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/2pkspod/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">@2pkspod</a> to connect with us.</p>
<p><p><strong>Episode Credits:</strong></p><p>Produced by Sharon Kwon and Annie Lim</p><p>Mixed by Abdul Wasay</p><p>Music: <a href="https://www.epidemicsound.com/music/tracks/72f3311e-1aa0-41b3-9366-29c0cbb7e127/">Risen by Gavin Luke</a> via Epidemic Sounds</p><p><strong>Links:</strong></p><p>Follow us on our <a href="https://2pkspod.com/">website</a> and on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/2pkspod">Instagram</a>!</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
      <enclosure length="32511449" type="audio/mpeg" url="https://cdn.simplecast.com/media/audio/transcoded/262367d2-6043-4e6e-975a-21dd387f375b/e499379f-24a7-4a8e-a641-f2a08ab9e114/episodes/audio/group/b282088b-ed4f-4e7f-8256-eb4d5d663115/group-item/33f85bed-cbe5-492c-8f09-93e15dfe52ce/128_default_tc.mp3?aid=rss_feed&amp;feed=lPVocIyH"/>
      <itunes:title>Welcome to 2PKs in a Pod</itunes:title>
      <itunes:author>Sharon Kwon and Annie Lim</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://image.simplecastcdn.com/images/47a5ecad-5509-4964-8b75-d8fd1693f6cf/88514301-5d42-44b2-93a8-9b714185b85f/3000x3000/logo.jpg?aid=rss_feed"/>
      <itunes:duration>00:33:51</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>In the first episode of 2 PKs in a Pod, Annie and Sharon explore the historical and sociological context of why Korean Americans are so Christian. They’ll take you back to the Japanese annexation times and through their immigration journeys to the U.S. in the early 90’s. They also share their personal stories of growing up and leaving the Korean church. 
</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>In the first episode of 2 PKs in a Pod, Annie and Sharon explore the historical and sociological context of why Korean Americans are so Christian. They’ll take you back to the Japanese annexation times and through their immigration journeys to the U.S. in the early 90’s. They also share their personal stories of growing up and leaving the Korean church. 
</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:keywords>exvangelical, pastor&apos;s kid, deconstructing journey, church trauma, korean history, pastor&apos;s kids, korean american, pk, spiritual abuse, korean church trauma, south korea, religious trauma, deconstructing faith, korean church, korean culture, korean diaspora, korean immigrant</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
    </item>
    <item>
      <guid isPermaLink="false">e27eaca5-e2f5-4b91-bb3e-991d9a03d606</guid>
      <title>Trailer</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Follow us at <a href="https://2pkspod.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">2pkspod.com</a> and on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/2pkspod" rel="noopener noreferrer">@2pkspod</a></p>
<p><p><strong>Episode Credits:</strong></p><p>Produced by Sharon Kwon and Annie Lim</p><p>Mixed by Abdul Wasay</p><p>Music: <a href="https://www.epidemicsound.com/music/tracks/72f3311e-1aa0-41b3-9366-29c0cbb7e127/">Risen by Gavin Luke</a> via Epidemic Sounds</p><p><strong>Links:</strong></p><p>Follow us on our <a href="https://2pkspod.com/">website</a> and on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/2pkspod">Instagram</a>!</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2026 23:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>2pkspod@gmail.com (Annie Lim, Sharon Kwon)</author>
      <link>https://2pkspod.com/episodes/trailer-no6vc0EN</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Follow us at <a href="https://2pkspod.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">2pkspod.com</a> and on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/2pkspod" rel="noopener noreferrer">@2pkspod</a></p>
<p><p><strong>Episode Credits:</strong></p><p>Produced by Sharon Kwon and Annie Lim</p><p>Mixed by Abdul Wasay</p><p>Music: <a href="https://www.epidemicsound.com/music/tracks/72f3311e-1aa0-41b3-9366-29c0cbb7e127/">Risen by Gavin Luke</a> via Epidemic Sounds</p><p><strong>Links:</strong></p><p>Follow us on our <a href="https://2pkspod.com/">website</a> and on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/2pkspod">Instagram</a>!</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
      <enclosure length="2764979" type="audio/mpeg" url="https://cdn.simplecast.com/media/audio/transcoded/262367d2-6043-4e6e-975a-21dd387f375b/e499379f-24a7-4a8e-a641-f2a08ab9e114/episodes/audio/group/0c528138-3223-4dfa-94a7-ae8651860d9a/group-item/d687d8d1-8fa7-4382-b85b-f6e1284ae949/128_default_tc.mp3?aid=rss_feed&amp;feed=lPVocIyH"/>
      <itunes:title>Trailer</itunes:title>
      <itunes:author>Annie Lim, Sharon Kwon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://image.simplecastcdn.com/images/47a5ecad-5509-4964-8b75-d8fd1693f6cf/5099b3a4-7795-484b-a0a1-da61af23d755/3000x3000/chatgpt_image_mar_13_2026_034511_pm.jpg?aid=rss_feed"/>
      <itunes:duration>00:02:52</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>Welcome to 2PKs in a Podcast. We&apos;re your hosts, Annie and Sharon. Join us as we deconstruct the Korean American Christian Immigrant Experience. </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Welcome to 2PKs in a Podcast. We&apos;re your hosts, Annie and Sharon. Join us as we deconstruct the Korean American Christian Immigrant Experience. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:keywords>exvangelical, pastor&apos;s kid, korean american, pk, religious trauma, immigrant experience, deconstruction</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:episodeType>trailer</itunes:episodeType>
    </item>
  </channel>
</rss>