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Along the way, we share resources that helped us make sense of the pain, including the work of Adam Young (The Place We Find Ourselves) and The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk.

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      <description><![CDATA[<p><strong>Connect with Jordan Raynor:</strong><br />🔗 <a href="https://www.jordanraynor.com">Visit Jordan’s Website</a><br />📚 Explore his books, podcast, and other resources for purposeful living and Christ-centered productivity. <br />***This episode was recorded in 2024, but you can still snag a copy of <i>The Sacredness of Secular Work or his latest book, Five Mere Christians. </i></p><p><strong>Listen to more from Jordan Raynor & Chassie Anders</strong><br />🔗<a href="https://podcast.jordanraynor.com/episodes/chassie-anders-founder-of-crown-of-glory-beauty"> Listen now</a></p><p><strong>More from </strong><i><strong>Between Beauty and Heartache</strong></i><strong>:</strong><br />💌 Subscribe to the newsletter<br />📱 Follow Chassie on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/betweenbeautyandheartache/">@betweenbeautyandheartache</a> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/chassieanders">@chassieanders</a><br />🎧 Leave a review and share this episode with a friend who needs the reminder: <i>your ordinary work carries eternal weight.</i></p>
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      <itunes:summary>After returning home from years as a cross-cultural missionary, Chassie Anders found herself struggling with questions she never expected to face: Does this work still matter? Is it enough? Is God in this too?

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They unpack why God delights in beauty for its own sake, how He values what seems ordinary, and how our everyday efforts — whether seen or unseen — carry eternal weight in the Kingdom of God.

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They unpack why God delights in beauty for its own sake, how He values what seems ordinary, and how our everyday efforts — whether seen or unseen — carry eternal weight in the Kingdom of God.

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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Chassie references <a href="https://yogawithadriene.com/">Yoga with Adriene</a> in this episode as a helpful way to tend to your body. </p><ul><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs73lvN0l8A">Yoga After Disaster.</a> While she is referring to a physical disaster, Chassie does this Yoga after relational ruptures. </li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqVSwY8y3UY">Yoga For Post Traumatic Stress.</a> This is helpful year round for Chassie, but if the holidays bring up challenging feelings, this might be extra helpful right now. </li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFkAl5wHEbg&t=939s">Yoga For Migraines</a>. Great way to tend to your body in the midst of a migraine. </li></ul><p><a href="https://aundikolber.com/">Aundi Kolber</a> is referenced in this episode. Just following her on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/aundikolber/">instagram</a> is a way Chassie feels encouraged, but she has many books and helpful resources for you to explore being softer with yourself. </p><p>If there is anything you want to ask Chassie, engage with her on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/chassieanders/">instagram</a>, or via email: Chassie@betweenbeautyandheartache.com. She would love to hear from you! </p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/robyndawnphotos/">Robyn Kolk</a> courageously shared part of her story with us, and here is a link to  her <a href="https://robyndawnphotos.com/">photography</a>. </li><li>The story work approach originated from the <a href="https://theallendercenter.org/">Allender Center</a>. If your curious about engaging your own story, visit their website to learn more and find a story work Coach.</li><li>Robyn mentions <a href="https://adamyoungcounseling.com/">Adam Young's</a> podcast, <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-place-we-find-ourselves/id1373926216">The Place We Find Ourselves</a>, a huge resource for both Robyn & Chassie. </li><li>Chassie mentioned the "U Diagram" a helpful tool that <a href="https://www.cathyloerzel.com/">Cathy Loerzel</a>, co-founded The Allender Center, Author, and story work coach.  Click the link to learn more about Cathy. </li></ul>
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*Disclaimer: Robyn mentions her struggles with suicidal thoughts. As always, please listen and pay attention to your body as you listen. Please pause the show if at anytime you feel triggered. While the episode is full of value and insight, we just want to make sure you are honoring your window of tolerance. We will be here when your ready to come back and finish listening. 
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Here is a link to find out more about our guest, <a href="https://www.candicefraserlpc.com/">Candice Fraser</a>, LPC, and how her counseling services, as well as her podcast <a href="https://www.candicefraserlpc.com/podcast">The Couch Next Door</a> might be of interest to you or someone you love. </p><p>If you want more conversation with Chassie & Candice, you can listen to their episode on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/story-work-chassie-anders/id1686964560?i=1000672493265">The Couch Next Door: Story Work (with Chassie Anders</a>)</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Between Beauty & Heartache, Chassie Anders invites <a href="https://www.cathyloerzel.com/">Cathy Loerzel</a> to discuss the foundations of story work, what it means to attune to the younger parts of ourselves, the importance of the healing journey, why we still experience heartache, and much more. </p><p>Cathy spent the last 15 years developing the theory and methodology of a popular new coaching and therapeutic approach called Story Work that moves people through their past stories of heartache to heal and discover healthier ways of being in the world. Cathy believes, "If we are honest, we know that none of us have escaped heartache and trauma in this beautifully broken world. The question then is how we heal in order not just to make it through, but truly thrive in the light of all that God would hope for us."</p><p>Wherever you are in your journey toward healing the painful parts of your story, may this conversation infuse you with hope!</p><p><strong>Episode Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Redeeming-Heartache-Suffering-Reveals-Calling/dp/0310362016/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2WB4Q4MBAW9BT&&keywords=redeeming+heartache+cathy+loerzel&&qid=1698696727&&sprefix=cathy"><i>Redeeming Heartache</i></a> by Dan Allender and Cathy Loerzel</li><li><a href="https://www.betweenbeautyandheartache.com/resources/books">Other books</a> mentioned on Between Beauty & Heartache</li></ul><p> </p>
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