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Lauren breaks down why asking questions like how will I leave the law, how will I make money in something else and how will I hand my notice in is keeping you stuck and what you need to focus on instead to create clarity on how you will leave the law.

Don’t forget to claim your £200 discount the celebrate the release of Made For More Than The Law

What to do when you’re living the dream as a remote consultant digital nomad lawyer but you’re over the law? Lauren answers this dilemma with insightful exploration and practical takeaways to action: I’ve got the perfect lawyer set up but I don’t want to be a lawyer anymore!

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What to do when you’ve reached the top of your game but you don’t want to be a partner or even a lawyer anymore?  Lauren answers this dilemma with insightful exploration and practical takeaways to action: “Help - I just made partner and I want to quit!”

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What to do when you don’t enjoy your legal work, are on the edge of burnout and you’re not sure if you should change firm, practice area or leave the law entirely? Lauren answers this dilemma with insightful exploration and practical takeaways to action: “I’m at a cross roads at 4 years qualified - i didn’t expect to be here so early in my career”

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Welcome to 2025 and a whole new year of opportunity and success on your terms!

In this episode, Lauren reflects on recurring themes that have come up in her conversations with clients  this year. Through her visionary lens, reframes these challenges as keys for opportunities as we move into a new year.

Made for more than the law? Over the grind and want to feel fulfilled by your work? Join the waitlist for Made for More Than The Law and be the first to be invited to join and received an exclusive release discount. 

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Most people think that doing work you love involves turning a hobby into a business and, whilst this is certainly one solid option, there are more options and ways to go about it than this that many lawyers overlook. It’s more accessible and realistic than you might think to rediscover your passions and create a fulfilling career based on them. Tune in for:-

• Why it’s essential for you as a legal professional to rediscover your passions when i comes to redesigning your career so you can create something more fulfilling 
• Signs that you don’t enjoy your work and you’re being invited to do more of what you love
• The meaning of ‘passions’ and doing work you love including a reframe on how to go about it beyond turning a hobby into a business.
• A practical exercise and 4 steps to take to re-connect with your passions and understand how you’re made for more than the law.

Made for more than the law? Over the grind and want to feel fulfilled by your work? Join the waitlist for Made for More Than The Law and be the first to be invited to join and received an exclusive release discount. 

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Join this solo episode with Lauren as she breaks down the first steps to take in order to make meaningful change towards more freedom and fulfilment. 

Most lawyers make the mistake of looking for the answers to their next career up the ladder, across at another firm, in the hands of a recruiter or within the expectations of their family. But Lauren shares what you need to do instead to make aligned change and the first steps you can action.

• The problem most lawyers face when making a change and what they keep doing that’s keeping them stuck
• What next steps you can take now.
• A personal story from Lauren - how she took these steps and what it did for her career change from BigLaw.
• A client success story -  from unfulfilled parter to thriving business owner 

But how? Henry’s career looks very different now to when he began life as a corporate city lawyer.  

We get into how Henry created a portfolio career as a content creator, mental health advocate and a consultant lawyer all on his terms. Working in a way that’s aligned with his passions, strengths and natural working ways has led to opportunities like being on a billboard in Piccadilly Circus, doing a Ted X talk and working with global brands. 

It all began with one TikTok video that he nearly deleted….

We take a deep dive into Henry’s journey to uncover how he is able to make money from his gifts, have a global personal brand and still practice law in a way that works for him. 

We also candidly get into millennial working ways, toxic corporate culture, dealing with imposter syndrome, judgements from colleagues and so much more. You can expect:-

• How Henry got started as a content creator
• The first TikTok video that nearly got deleted - why he kept it and how he kept going
• The key ingredient to being a content creator that most people overlook
• Moving beyond judgements of colleagues, friends & family when doing something different
• Working outside of the corporate ladder structure & creating your own path
• Working through imposter syndrome
• Making money from your passions
• Why following your joy matters
• Toxic corporate & legal behaviors
• Urgency culture
• Millennials, their traits & why they won’t make phone calls
• Millennials as leaders
• Different working norms between the generators
• The future of work-place culture

Finally you can expect a mini reading of Henry’s Human Design chart a 1 / 3 Manifestor. Link below to schedule your Human Design reading with me or to book a Career Clarity & Strategy Session.

• *EXCLUSIVE INVITATION* not yet shared by Lauren on any other platform > Join the Waitlist here for >>> Made for More than the Law <<<, a course to help you get clarity on what else you can do beyond the law. Whether you’re looking to leave the law entirely or to create a portfolio career that blends in the law. Lauren’s new offer launching January 2025 - details are on the DL right now - but you will be the first to hear more and be invited to join with an exclusive discount.
• Download the Values Workbook for Lawyers here
• Book a Career Clarity & Strategy Session here
• Book a Human Design reading here

Henry's info:

• Website 
• TikTok
• Instagram

Promotion is on the table, should you go for it? This is for you if you've been offered a promotion or it’s the obvious next step but you’re not sure - you feel some reservations and are in two minds about whether you should go for it. 

Tune in as Lauren shares, based on her experience working with lawyers who have sought promotions to feel more fulfilled (including partnership level):-

• what lawyers skip that often leaves them feelings more stuck & unfulfilled
• the 5 top signs that a promotion up the ladder isn’t the right path for you and more fulfilling alternatives await
• how to decide your next move

Key links 

• *EXCLUSIVE INVITATION* not yet shared by Lauren on any other platform > Join the Waitlist here for >>> Made for More than the Law <<<, a course to help you get clarity on what else you can do beyond the law. Lauren’s new offer launching January 2025 - details are on the DL right now - but you will be the first to hear more and be invited to join with an exclusive discount.
• Download the Values Workbook for Lawyers here
• Book a Career Clarity & Strategy Session here

Lauren takes you through why and when a lateral move can be helpful, what to watch out for and the biggest mistake she sees lawyers make which can set them back in their quest for more fulfilment.

You can expect:-

• What is a lateral move?
• Why & when a lateral move can be sensible
• Why & when a lateral move can set you back
• How to make a meaningful move that won’t waste your time & energy
• Practical exercises you begin to work on to get clarity on your next best move

Key links:-

• Join the Waitlist here to be the first to hear about and receive an exclusive discount for Lauren’s new offer launching January 2025 to help you work out what else you can do beyond the law. Details are on the DL right now - but you will be the first to hear!
• Download the Values Workbook for Lawyers here
• Book a Career Clarity & Strategy Session here

Thank you for listening to the Legally Different podcast. If you loved this episode, please subscribe, rate and review, or tag us on Instagram @legallydifferent

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In this episode, Lauren guides you through the 10 top signals that you are ready for something new and need to make a change. 

The intention of this episode is to help you feel more confident about what’s right for you and support you into making moves towards a path that actually lights you up and feels more aligned.

This is important because it’s easy to;

-> accept these signs as normal and not recognise they mean that  you’re ready for a change

-> ignore them and not action the change you deserve and desire

-> not realise that these things mean it’s ready to make a change 

Let’s help you create the change you desire and deserve. 

Schedule your Clarity & Strategy Session here

Schedule the Signature Human Design reading here

Download the Values Workbook for Lawyers here

Thank you for listening to the Legally Different podcast. If you loved this episode, please subscribe, rate and review, or tag us on Instagram @legallydifferent

Wish to fuel the Legally Different mission and make positive changes in the legal world and beyond? Buy me a coffee.

@legallydifferent

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Schedule your Clarity & Strategy Session here

Schedule the Signature Human Design reading here

Thank you for listening to the Legally Different podcast. If you loved this episode, please subscribe, rate and review, or tag us on Instagram @legallydifferent

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Wanting to make a change in your career but can’t seem to action it? Have you been sat on the feeling for a while telling yourself you will focus on it soon? Can’t shake the feeling that there’s something else for you? I hear you -  it’s likely there’s a block in the way of your desired change.

In this episode I dig into one of the biggest blocks I see in lawyers and professionals when it comes to making a change; fear. 

This is an important one because it’s sneaky and most lawyers / professionals would say they don’t have a fear and it’s something else. In reality most, if not all, people have some kind of fear when it comes to making a change - it’s normal.

In this episode I help you to:-

• Understand why fears are normal & can be helpful
• Identify what your fear based block is
• Create actionable steps to work through your block, so it doesn’t continue to work against you.

Credits:

Your host: Lauren Kay

@legallydifferent

https://legallydifferent.com

Thank you for listening to the Legally Different podcast. If you loved this episode, please subscribe, rate and review, or tag us on Instagram @legallydifferent

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This week Lauren is joined by legal maverick, Patrick Patino, the backwards hat, hoodie wearing attorney who is all about radical reinvention; of himself, his habits, his working ways and the legal world.

A recurring theme in this episode is Patrick’s deep level of self awareness and openness to continuously question and evolve- there is so much wisdom in his reflections! Patrick is an inspiring example of being committed to his authentic self and  living a life that feels alive, aligned and true for him! We’re all for that at Legally Different.

We also get to learn more about Patrick via his Human Design (51/ Splenic Manifestor)  as Lauren gives him a mini reading.

Kick back, and enjoy this newfangledly-different episode!

You can expect chats on:-

• Radical authenticity and self expression
• Owning your own law firm and being a maverick in the legal space
• Change in your career and self growth
• Doom scrolling and how technology is holding us back
• Being more present in real life 
• Slowing down and dropping the desire for convenience 
• What it means to be a newfangled lawyer

Ultimately giving you a permission slip to live out your own newfangledly-different life and career path!

Credits:

Your host: Lauren Kay

@legallydifferent

https://legallydifferent.com

Guest: Patrick Patino

https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickpatino/

https://newfangled.legal/

Wish to fuel the Legally Different mission and make positive changes in the legal world and beyond? Buy me a coffee.

Book your 1:1 Human Design Reading here: Book ‘The Signature Session’. Use your exclusive code LEGALLYDIFFERENT10 for 10% off.

Intrigued to know what makes you Legally Different? Download your FREE Human Design chart.

Thank you for listening to the Legally Different podcast. If you loved this episode, please subscribe, rate and review, or tag us on Instagram @legallydifferent.

In this week’s episode, Lauren is joined by Laura Lange, contract lawyer for entrepreneurs, yoga teacher, podcast host and online business coach who helps high performers build structures to reclaim their time and wellness so they can work less, make more money and feel amazing in their bodies and business while doing it.

We delve into Laura’s journey from burnt out corporate lawyer in Denmark to multi-passionate entrepreneur, creating a life based on her core value of freedom from Greece, the country she now calls home!

Laura is  someone who embodies her unique blueprint and in the interview we highlight key parts of her human design chart and explore how she is already living out these gifts on the daily! She is a great example of what living by your Human Design can look and feel like (hint: a whole lotta freedom and creativity!)

In a value packed episode we also explore money mindset and magnetic marketing  through Laura’s lens with really insightful and practical takeaways.

Episode highlights:

• Laura’s experience as a corporate lawyer, early success and climbing the ladder
• What led her to change her path even as a high achieving lawyer
• Her journey to becoming a yoga teacher and what the practise gave her
• How she integrates yoga principles into her everyday life and helps others do the same
• Money Mindset
• Magnetic Marketing  over cold pitching
• Boundaries in business

Credits:

Your host: Lauren Kay

@legallydifferent

https://legallydifferent.com

Guest: Laura Lange

@manipurabylaura

LinkedIn - Laura Lange

Website

Book your 1:1 Human Design Reading here: Book ‘The Signature Session’. Use your exclusive code LEGALLYDIFFERENT10 for 10% off.

Intrigued to know what makes you Legally Different? Download your FREE Human Design chart.

Wish to fuel the Legally Different mission and make positive changes in the legal world and beyond? Buy me a coffee.

Thank you for listening to the Legally Different podcast. If you loved this episode, please subscribe, rate and review, or tag us on Instagram @legallydifferent.

In this week's episode, your host Lauren Kay is in the spotlight! We're sharing her interview from the Zen Desk podcast with Laura Lange so you can learn more about Lauren's journey from Big Law to legal consultant and Human Design guide as well as learning how the Human Design system can support you in your success and propel your career fulfilment.

As you may already know, Lauren is a former "Big Law" lawyer who's been on a journey to experiment with soul-aligned ways of working (even in careers like law). She’s passionate about human potential and deeply driven by a desire to transform the one-size-fits-all path that can leave us feeling unfulfilled. Lauren believes that we are all incredibly unique and have our own codes for success - when we tap into these, it not only fulfils us individually, but has a ripple effect on the teams and organisations that we form part of.  

Grab your human design chart here so you can follow along with Lauren's shares and see how and where the guidance applies to your chart!

Schedule a human design reading with Lauren here using the 10% discount code: ZENDESK10

Episode highlights:

• Lauren’s journey into Big Law
• Lauren’s leap onto her ‘Legally Different’ path
• How she went being a lawyer in corporate environment in the UK to a digital nomad lawyer in Bali
• A traditional working day for Lauren as a human design guide and legal consultant
• What is human design?
• More about human design ‘types’ ‘profiles’ ‘channels’  and ‘centres’
• An example of what it’s like to experience a Human Design reading with Lauren

Credits:

Lauren Kay

@legallydifferent

https://legallydifferent.com

Laura Lange

@manipurabylaura

LinkedIn - Laura Lange

• Want a 1:1 Human Design Reading? Book ‘The Signature Session’. Use your exclusive code LEGALLYDIFFERENT10 for 10% off.
• Intrigued to know what makes you Legally Different? Download your FREE Human Design chart.

Your host Lauren Kay is joined by 4/6 Mental Projector Anna Lozynski. An executive General counsel and author, turned change agent, advisor and influencer as well as the powerhouse behind Anna Lozynski advisory AKA legally innovative.

Anna’s mission is to help the legal world and business adapt to the digital age and propel the corporate world forward to create lasting (and sustainable!) change. There are certainly many examples in Lauren’s chat with Anna of her pioneering, innovative and change-maker spirit which is somewhat infectious - be prepared to be initiated!

We delve into Anna’s career journey from a traditional start, to fulfilling a lifelong dream of being a GC for L’Oréal  (her ‘sexy in house gig’ as she calls it!) and also the leap into solopreneurship, acknowledging how the pandemic  played a role in her taking this leap into the somewhat unknown.

Anna openly talks about her fertility journey and how the birth of her son called her even deeper into her many self care practices and being more intentional with her energy management - tune in to learn about the tools in her armour to support her wellbeing - in particular a very helpful one for how to navigate big, overwhelming ideas!

If you are someone who is ambitious and aiming for success but wants to get there in a way that is sustainable both for your career and wellbeing, Anna’s grounded wisdom will certainly inspire and lead you there! 

Also if you’re a  manager/leader looking to manage your team in a dynamic, future focused way or are someone looking to future proof your career and have the edge, Anna’s shares on developing an innovation mindset are really insightful. 

One of the key threads highlighted in Anna’s human design is her skill as a connector. She is designed to connect with and be a role model for others, which she naturally embodies in such a grounded way. 

If you’re a projector or perhaps have colleagues and loved ones who are projectors, you may be particularly interested in this episode as Lauren shares a live reading of Anna’s Human Design chart.

Episode highlights:

• Anna’s diverse legal experience and portfolio career which led her to be the dynamic solopreneur she is now.
• Using tech and innovative tools to drive forward change in the legal space.
• Adapting the corporate/legal mindset to accommodate innovation.
• The importance of inner work, mindset and energy management to create sustainable success.
• Tangible wellbeing tools to support ourselves as busy professionals.
• The power of leaning into your community.

Credits:

Your Host: Lauren Kay

@legallydifferent

https://legallydifferent.com

Guest: Anna Lozynski

https://www.linkedin.com/in/annalozynski/

@legallyinnovative

Magic Mind: A limited offer of 48% off your first subscription or 20% off one time purchases with code LEGALLYDIFFERENT20 at checkout. You can claim it at: https://www.magicmind.com/LEGALLYDIFFERENT20

Want a 1:1 Human Design Reading? Book ‘The Signature Session’. Use your exclusive code LEGALLYDIFFERENT10 for 10% off.

Intrigued to know what makes you Legally Different? Download your FREE Human Design chart.

Wish to fuel the Legally Different mission and make positive changes in the legal world and beyond? Buy me a coffee.

Thank you for listening to the Legally Different podcast. If you loved this episode, please subscribe, rate and review, or tag us on Instagram @legallydifferent.

Your host Lauren Kay is joined by 2/4 Sacral Generator, Megan Senese. Megan is a Marketing Specialist and Co-Founder of Stage, a pioneering women-owned business providing marketing and business development services focused on authenticity, relationships, revenue, and growth for legal services.

After 16 years of corporate life as a legal marketer in Big Law and The Big Four, Megan took the leap into entrepreneurship. We dive into her journey, including accidentally creating a specialisim in professional services, the woes of big law corporate life, the pinochle moments which led her to quit, and the steps she took to pivot and co-found an all-female business including the mindset and audit process required when transitioning into your own business.

If you’re an entrepreneurially-minded lawyer looking to leverage social media, in particular LinkedIn, to build a brand, increase your visibility and attract clients, this is for you. We delve into Megan’s marketing expertise and experience addressing the typical challenges that lawyers face with marketing including  finding the confidence to be visible in front of former and current colleagues on LinkedIn and much more.

One of Megan’s standout gifts in her Human Design is being a strong storyteller, so it’s super aligned with her innate purpose that she helps others increase visibility, build business, make connections via sharing personal and professional stories on LinkedIn.

If you’re a Generator or perhaps have colleagues and loved ones who are Generator, you may be particularly interested in this episode as Lauren shares a live reading of Megan’s Human Design chart.

Episode highlights:

• Megan’s experience in Big Law; challenges and the path which led her to pivot into a female founded marketing business
• The importance of inner work when setting up a new company; how to build the foundations, define your mission and embody your purpose
• The mindset and audit process required when transitioning into a new job and unknown territory
• The biggest blocks lawyers face when becoming active and building a presence on LinkedIn
• Insights into how to streamline the process of creating content, building and engaging with your LinkedIn community authentically, with the goal to gain leads

Credits:

Your Host: Lauren Kay

@legallydifferent

https://legallydifferent.com

Guest: Megan Senese

https://www.linkedin.com/in/megansenese

http://www.stage.guide

Magic Mind: A limited offer of 48% off your first subscription or 20% off one time purchases with code LEGALLYDIFFERENT20 at checkout. You can claim it at: https://www.magicmind.com/LEGALLYDIFFERENT20

Want a 1:1 Human Design Reading? Book ‘The Signature Session’. Use your exclusive code LEGALLYDIFFERENT10 for 10% off.

Intrigued to know what makes you Legally Different? Download your FREE Human Design chart.

Wish to fuel the Legally Different mission and make positive changes in the legal world and beyond? Buy me a coffee.

Thank you for listening to the Legally Different podcast. If you loved this episode, please subscribe, rate and review, or tag us online @legallydifferent.

 Book ‘The Signature Session’ Use code LEGALLYDIFFERENT10 for 10% off Download your FREE Human Design chart.

In today’s episode of Legally Different, your host Lauren Kay is joined by 4/1 Sacral Generator, Idara Bassey. The Joyous Idara is an Attorney, Certified Energy Strategist & Professional Intuitive. 

Since 2002, Idara has served as a Personal Advisor to corporate professionals and lawyers, focusing on personal development, values alignment, stress reduction, and wellness. Impressively, Idara boasts a degree in Public International Law, as well as a Doctoral Degree in Metaphysical Counseling. Idara is a well-seasoned writer and author of "Reflections of a Mystical Sistah: On Traveling the Road to Self-Definition." Her consulting practice, JOY Counsel LLC (Love Your Lawyer Life), specializes in helping women lawyers to achieve personal and professional wellbeing they deserve.

Idara is an inspiring example when it comes to embodiment of her purpose and gifts, and is an advocate for living a life of joy and authenticity that allows space for change. Tune in as she shares an insightful reframe on how to merge the spiritual with the strategic in business. Idara’s story and expertise serves as a reminder that neglecting soft skills such as intuition is, quite simply,  leaving intelligence on the table. These softer skills work harmoniously with tangible ones like strategy and (when combined) will allow you to tap into your highest potential in the boardroom and beyond.

If you’re a Generator or perhaps have colleagues and loved ones who are Generators, you may be particularly interested in this episode as Lauren shares a live reading of Idara’s Human Design chart.

Conversation highlights and what you can expect:

• Idara’s early legal career and key pivot period to live/work in a more aligned way
• Lessons learnt on navigating change in your life and career; how to accept not resist the beauty of certain changes and how to instill change and follow your convictions
• How to merge the spiritual with the strategic in business and Idara’s work in legal and corporate spaces focusing on nurturing intuitive intelligence
• How the law industry is shifting to allow space for holistic methods
• The mental health crisis in law and how to avoid stress and burnout by uncovering your purpose
• How your corporate space impacts you energetically
• The role Generators play in teams and how they can follow what lights them up in their career
• And so much more…

Credits:

Your Host: Lauren Kay

@legallydifferent

https://legallydifferent.com

Guest: Idara Bassey

https://www.linkedin.com/in/idara-e-bassey

https://loveyourlawyerlife.com

Magic Mind: A limited offer of 48% off your first subscription or 20% off one time purchases with code LEGALLYDIFFERENT20 at checkout. You can claim it at:

https://www.magicmind.com/LEGALLYDIFFERENT20

Want a 1:1 Human Design Reading? Book ‘The Signature Session’. Use your exclusive code LEGALLYDIFFERENT10 for 10% off.

Intrigued to know what makes you Legally Different? Download your FREE Human Design chart.

Wish to fuel the Legally Different mission and make positive changes in the legal world and beyond? Buy me a coffee.

Thank you for listening to the Legally Different podcast. If you loved this episode, please subscribe, rate and review, or tag us online @legallydifferent.

Tune in as Frieda shares her path into law, her career approaching 20 years as a practising lawyer and the factors driving her decision to pivot from law firm partnership to entrepreneurship. Now, Frieda embraces a more wholistic role within Braving Boundaries, a coaching practice reflective of her journey through moments of uncertainty, self-discovery and ultimately, transformation.

Drawing on her diverse backgrounds in law, commodities, consulting and psychology, Frieda brings a wealth of knowledge and embodied wisdom to the conversation. The pair dive into the power of the Enneagram as an invaluable tool for the growth of consciousness, the parallels to Human Design, and the importance of self-awareness when navigating your aligned career path and tapping into your strengths, weaknesses and gifts. 

If you’re a Projector or perhaps have colleagues and loved ones who are Projectors, you may be particularly interested in this episode as Lauren shares a live reading of Frieda’s Human Design chart.

Episode highlights include insights on how to:-

• Process feeling lost, stuck and overwhelmed
• Brave boundaries in relationships, life and business
• Nurture your wellbeing as a lawyer
• Pivot careers and redefine yourself in a new industry
• Leverage the Enneagram to understand your personality structure
• Understand your Enneagram type (a summary of each personality type 1 - 9) and determine the best role for you
• Use the enneagram as a blueprint to build high-performing teams
• Decipher whether counselling or coaching is best for you

Credits:

Your Host: Lauren Kay

@legallydifferent

https://legallydifferent.com

Guest: Frieda Levycky

@bravingboundaries

https://bravingboundaries.com

Magic Mind: A limited offer of 48% off your first subscription or 20% off one time purchases with code LEGALLYDIFFERENT20 at checkout. You can claim it at: 

https://www.magicmind.com/LEGALLYDIFFERENT20

Want a 1:1 Human Design Reading? Book ‘The Signature Session’. Use your exclusive code LEGALLYDIFFERENT10 for 10% off.

Intrigued to know what makes you Legally Different? Download your FREE Human Design chart.

Wish to fuel the Legally Different mission and make positive changes in the legal world and beyond? Buy me a coffee.

Thank you for listening to the Legally Different podcast. If you loved this episode, please subscribe, rate and review, or tag us online @legallydifferent.

Welcome to Legally Different. Your host, Lauren, will empower and equip you to embrace your own legally different path, simply by being you and leveraging what makes you unique. If you’re ready to find, create or evolve your soul aligned career, this podcast is for you.

You can expect solo episodes and enlightening conversations with pioneering legal practitioners and entrepreneurs who have successfully carved out intentional and unconventional career paths. These conversations will inspire and support you to understand your own innate blueprint for success.

After all, we are all Legally Different by design.

Your Host: Lauren Kay

@legallydifferent

https://legallydifferent.com

Want a 1:1 Human Design Reading? Book ‘The Signature Session’. Use your exclusive code LEGALLYDIFFERENT10 for 10% off.

Intrigued to know what makes you Legally Different? Download your FREE Human Design chart.

Wish to fuel the Legally Different mission and make positive changes in the legal world and beyond? Buy me a coffee.

Thank you for listening to the Legally Different podcast. If you loved this season, please subscribe, rate and review, or tag us online @legallydifferent.

After a two year hiatus, the Legally Different Podcast is thrilled to be back! Whether you’re brand new to the podcast or you’re an OG listener, we’re so happy to have you here.

Legally Different is more than just a podcast; it's a community for those who dare to think differently within the legal world. This season promises to bring you even more inspiring stories, thought-provoking discussions, and innovative insights from some of the most forward-thinking legal professionals out there.

Tune in as Lauren brings you up to speed on the last two years and reveals what you can expect for the season ahead, including bi-weekly guest episodes with mini Human Design readings and ad-hoc solo episodes focused on teaching Human Design. 

Episode highlights:

• Exploring the concept of consistency
• Business and personal life updates since 2022
• The fusion of Human Design and Legally Different
• Significant changes and trends in the legal world
• What to expect from Season 3

Credits:

Your Host: Lauren Kay

@legallydifferent

https://legallydifferent.com

Want a 1:1 Human Design Reading? Book ‘The Signature Session’. Use your exclusive code LEGALLYDIFFERENT10 for 10% off.

Intrigued to know what makes you Legally Different? Download your FREE Human Design chart.

Wish to fuel the Legally Different mission and make positive changes in the legal world and beyond? Buy me a coffee.

Thank you for listening to the Legally Different podcast. If you loved this episode, please subscribe, rate and review, or tag us online @legallydifferent.

This episode is for you if you’re brand new to Human Design or if you’re familiar and are seeking a refresher. We’ll be diving into the basics of Human Design; where it originates from and what makes up the Human Design system; how it can help you as a legal professional practically on a day to day basis and on a bigger picture level of your career journey. We’ll also be exploring the technical side of Human Design including the key elements of your chart and the typical language used.

Many professionals and entrepreneurs in the legal sphere are increasingly adopting Human Design as a personal and professional self development tool, as it holds infinite power and wisdom when navigating your career journey. Human design is essentially a written document of your soul contract. It’s a confirmation and clarity of who you are, what your purpose is, what work you’re here to do and how you’re here to do it.

When utilised, the information Human Design provides has the potential to be your superpower. It’s essentially a map of your gifts, talents, strengths, decision making, opportunities, network, communication and so much more. The more you work in alignment with your Human Design, the more you can experience flow and less resistance. 

Episode highlights:

• Where does Human Design originate from?
• How to navigate your life and career using Human Design
• How to tap into your highest potential using Human Design 
• How Human Design can help you as a legal professional
• A breakdown of the language and lingo used in Human Design
• A headline summary of the 5 Human Design types
• How to navigate and understand your Human Design chart
• A synopsis of strategy, profile, authority, centres and gates

Credits:

Your Host: Lauren Kay

@legallydifferent

https://legallydifferent.com

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As a private practice lawyer, Janvi received an instinctive feeling that she needed to leave her role – which was at odds with her as an ambitious and diligent woman who didn’t associate with being spontaneous. However, she trusted this soul nudge, left and this led to a path of entrepreneurialism and activism unfolding…...

Janvi co-founded Halebury (launched 2007) and spearheaded operational, structural and cultural change within the legal services profession through a unique business model relating to senior in-house Counsel resourcing, which was then acquired in 2018 by Elevate, a global law company. 

Janvi is also  a founding board member of the legal campaign #FreePeriods, which aims to end period poverty and was part of the team that successfully campaigned the UK Government for free period products in schools. Amongst many other things, Janvi is also on the investment committee of Aliavia Ventures - a female founder VC fund, is a founder of Support SEND Kids to ensure SEND child have access to education, and most recently she has launched a production company and is in the process of finalizing a documentary series.  

We also chat a little about Janvi’s Human Design in this conversation; she is a Manifestor which I could really see in her - an entrepreneurial initiator who is trailblazing us into new ways. In this episode we dive into:-

Janvi’s background, journey into law  and early professional years

• Indian immigrant background – pressure to do well and have a professional career
• Scraping by in A-levels; Mum calling to get her a place at University
• Studying Law and Accounting at Manchester University
• Training Contract as Charles Russell and qualifying in employment
• Always feeling different as a lawyer – not seeing anyone else who looked like her
• Inner feeling arising “I need to quit and not be here' - quitting private practice

Entrepreneurship and activism 

• Co-founding Halebury
  • Early challenges with no money and no clients
  • Juggling early family life and moving to LA
  • How the success of Halebury fast tracked and tips for starting a business
• Activism  
  • The Free Periods campaign - how the team went about this
  • Females being left out of the conversation and science
  • School on Wheels - how it helps homeless children in LA and challenges during 'lockdown'

Contact information for Janvi and some of the projects she supports if you wish to help:-

• Janvi's LinkedIn page
• School on wheels - support here
• SEND kids - support here

Legally Different’s contact information:-

• Email: hello@legallydifferent.com
• Legally Different on Instagram
• Website: www.legallydifferent.com

Thank you for tuning in! This marks the season finale - keep in touch for what’s coming in season 3!

Lauren 

Vanessa is not afraid to speak what is on her heart and mind which makes for a very real and open conversation. We dive into a number of topics such a female inequality in law, integrity as a lawyer and what it means to be a real leader.  You will hear about Vanessa's journey to becoming a lawyer which, after quitting school at 15, wasn't a conventional path (which sums up Vanessa's uniquely inspiring ways), her experiences in private practice (including inequalities faced as a woman in law, amongst other things) which very much fuelled Vanessa's desire to create her own business and do law on her own terms.

Vanessa's leadership style, which we dive into and unpack, is aptly captured by the  name 'Tiger Law'. What really stood out to me is how passionately protective and caring Vanessa is over her staff; nurturing their talents, encouraging them to be themselves and having their backs was something that came through to me strongly. 
 

In this episode we dive into:-

Background and  journey into law 

• Leaving school at 15;
• ‘Real’ realisations about what Vanessa wanted for her life;
• Back to education - humanities based A-levels and why Vanessa thinks these are valuable;
• Philosophy degree – the lure of academia; and
• CPE conversion & LPC vs benefits practical learning avenues.

Early Professional years

• Private practice – ‘looked like misery’
• Facing inequalities for being female and different in her style
• Pheonix out of the flames moment: sole bread winner, pregnant and sacked – set out in legal consultancy followed by creating her own law firm.

Tiger Law

• Starting Tiger Law – what fuelled it and the process of a starting a law firm;
• What is behind the name;
• Supporting staff to be human and nurture their individuality
• Leadership in law and how Vanessa is doing it differently;
• Social media and personal brands – how to use it wisely- freedom of expression vs professional;
• Integrity and resilience in the legal professional and what it is to be a service provider;
• Using technology in law to help lawyers and clients; and
• How ‘Tigerizing’ things helps to filter out the client they don’t want to work with.

Finishing up 

• Why Vanessa is Legally Different; and
• What advice Vanessa would give her younger self

HELPFUL LINKS + CONTACTS

Contact information for Vanessa and Tiger Law:-

• Tiger Law's website
• Vanessa's LinkedIn
• Tiger Law's Instagram
• Tiger Law's Twitter

Legally Different’s contact information:-

• Legally Different's email: hello@legallydifferent.com
• Legally Different on Instagram
• Interested in Human Design? Want to find out how you're uniquely design to work, interact with others, make decisions and get clarity on your purpose, gifts and strengths?  Book your Human Design session with Lauren here.

Thank you sooooo much for tuning in.

Lauren 

Seth’s background and journey into law 

• Growing up in a blue collar family in West Virginia
• From Med School to Big Law
• Money mindset and exchanging time for money

Big law career

• The lure of the golden handcuffs
• Looking up the ladder and lacking inspiration by the 9-5 to 65 model
• ‘Ah ha’ moments which led to breaking free of the golden handcuffs

Passive Income Attorney

• Transition period - money mindset changes and mentors
• Discovering real estate investing – from early experiments to expertise
• How it’s possible to ‘practice when you want to, not because you have to’
• How lawyers can leverage their legal skills in other areas inc. entrepreneurship and investing
• How Seth and his PIA platform can help lawyers to free up their time

Finishing up 

• Why Seth is Legally Different; and
• What advice Seth would give his younger self

HELPFUL LINKS + CONTACTS

Seth’s contact information:-

• GET STARTED:       The Freedom Blueprint
• Free download for a limited time at http://www.attorneybydesign.com
• The Billables to Abundance Bible - Free download for a limited time at http://www.escapethebillable.com
• JOIN: EPIC – The Esquire Passive Investor Club: https://passiveincomeattorney.com/join-the-passive-income/
• The Passive Income Attorneys Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/passiveincomeattorneys
• Call: https://calendly.com/sethbradley/invest
• Email:  seth@passiveincomeattorney.com
• Websites: www.passiveincomeattorney.com; www.lawcapitalpartners.com ; www.bradleylawlimited.com
• LinkedIn:   www.linkedin.com/in/sethpaulbradley
• Facebook:  www.facebook.com/sethpaulbradley
• Instagram:  www.instagram.com/passiveincomeattorney
• YouTube:   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBFCoOy_AM7-8F6h0DiHdSw

Legally Different’s contact information:-

• Legally Different's email: hello@legallydifferent.com
• Legally Different on Instagram
• Thank you to our supporter, Franc and Iris. Use code LEGALLYDIFFERENT15 for 15% off of a pair of blue light protective glasses.
• Interested in Human Design? Want to find out how you're uniquely design to work, interact with others, make decisions and get clarity on your purpose, gifts and strengths?  Book your Human Design session with Lauren here.

Thank you for tuning in!

Lauren :-)

Aman founded Beyond Yoga for Lawyers (which she runs on the side of being a lawyer/partner) following a desire to create her own business “I just wanted to do my own thing with no rules”.

Aman is 9 years qualified and a partner at her firm. As a proud and successful lawyer, she focused solely on her legal career for the first 5 years, but at year 6 something else was calling her, so she decided to take stock of things and asked herself ‘what do I really want’? Aman realised that in creating her legal career, she had dropped all of her hobbies and interests and, as a naturally multifaceted and multi passionate person, this didn’t align with version of success. So, Aman made a decision to follow that calling, own her non-linear nature and step out as a lawyer “and”…..

Aman is a successful lawyer AND so much more, including a yoga teacher and entrepreneur. It is admirable to see how she is owning this and in doing so is giving a much needed permission slip to other lawyers and professionals. I also love how as a lawyer/partner at her firm she does things differently – one thing that stood out to me was the vision boarding session she ran aka ‘the vision board party’.

It’s no surprise that Aman is a Manifesting Generator in Human Design – something we delved into in the episode if you’re curious to find out more.

Tune in to hear about Aman’s process in creating Beyond Yoga for Lawyers and how she is ‘Legally Different’ in so many ways.

What you can expect:-

Aman’s journey into law and legal career

• Attending a local murder trial which ignited a passion for law
• Committing to law school – not getting what Aman wanted but realising a deeper lesson later on
• Qualifying as a professional regulatory lawyer
• Dedication to Aman’s career and making partner
• Reviewing Aman’s version of success and taking stock
• Craving change and recognizing fulfilment in being a lawyer “and”…..

Beyond Yoga For Lawyers

• Aman’s process to creating BYFL
• The need/desire for freedom
• Where BYFL is now and how it helps lawyers
• Other interests which create the lawyer “and” in Aman

Finishing up 

• Why Aman is Legally Different; and
• What advice Aman would give her younger self 

HELPFUL LINKS + CONTACTS

• Beyond Yoga for Lawyers on Instagram
• Beyond Yoga for Lawyers’ website
• Legally Different's email: hello@legallydifferent.com
• Legally Different on Instagram
• Thank you to our supporter, Franc and Iris. Use code LEGALLYDIFFERENT15 for 15% off of a pair of blue light protective glasses.
• Interested in Human Design? Want to find out how you're uniquely design to work, interact with others, make decisions and get clarity on your purpose, gifts and strengths?  Book your Human Design session with Lauren here.

Thanks so much for tuning in!

Eimear has certainly had a multi-faceted and non-linear path into and around law, which you will hear all about! From her early career as a writer to working in immigration law for a law centre to private practice to legal tech. 

When Eimear began to feel stuck in private practice and craved a way out into something else, without anything on the table, her solution was “I’m just going to have to get really creative about how I get out of this” which I love – you will see that creativity is a common theme in Eimear’s journey and is something she is so passionate about in law. At this juncture, she began by stripping out of the legal references in her CV to reimagine her experience – love this tip for getting a new perspective on experience, skills and purpose!

During this process, Eimear discovered legal tech and was so drawn to it as the “intersection between law and creativity” and has since had a successful and diverse career in legal tech in commercial and operational roles working for Flex Legal, Summize and currently TrialView.

Eimear shares interesting insights around the role of creativity in law, our work and lives. We discuss how traditionally (and still currently in many areas) the law and school system tends to label and separate creativity as though it doesn’t have a place in law. Eimear shares her passion for where creative thinking can assist – even in logical tasks!

“We are all wired to create” – I will leave you with that before you dive in.

What you can expect:-

Eimear’s journey into law

• Law & Spanish at University 
• Deciding not to pursue a law career and becoming a writer

Legal Career

• Becoming an immigration lawyer and working for a law centre in Northern Ireland
• Doing meaningful work and being passionate 
• Mental health in law and dealing with tough cases
• Moving to Manchester and working in private practice
• Feeling unfulfilled and craving change

Legal Tech

• Getting creative about making a career leap
• Discovering legal tech
• Roles with Flex Legal and Summize

Creativity

• The meaning of creativity and how we are all creative 
• Creativity in law – where it’s at and how creativity can help
• The future generations
• Neuroscience insights 
• Creativity and logic going hand in hand

Finishing up 

• Why Eimear is Legally Different; and
• What advice Eimear would give to her previous self wanting to get out of private practice 

HELPFUL LINKS + CONTACTS

• Eimear’s LinkedIn
• Legally Different's email: hello@legallydifferent.com
• Legally Different's  Instagram

Thank you for tuning in 

The November full moon is a powerful lunar eclipse with supercharged energy. Eclipses are like portals offering the opportunity for transformation  - an opportunity to get back on purpose and on our path to fulfilling our goals and dreams. Full moons are always about beginnings and endings, so together there's a potent collaboration. The timing of this lunar eclipse at the end of a challenging year and time in general is about reclaiming your power  and self reliance. Tune in for more!

Helpful links + contacts

• Laurel’s website:www.laurelosullivan.com
• Legally Different's email: hello@legallydifferent
• Legally Different's  Instagram

Alex shares his path into law and early career, his transition from a senior employee at an international law firm to starting his entrepreneurial journey through to where Ignition is today as a successful leading law firm for start ups, scale ups and the entrepreneurially spirited. This is such a diverse conversation touching on many interesting angles including; challenges in the entrepreneurial journey (personal & professional), the importance of values & culture, mental health in law and agile/remote working.

“Culture eats strategy for breakfast” sums up the essence of this conversation and is something you will hear Alex say part way through when we discuss Ignition’s values and what it’s like to be part of the team.

Ignition Law is ‘legally different’ in so many ways, but one way that stands out to me is how it has always been ahead of curve with remote working as ‘agile consultants’ (that’s me) have been an integral part of its model right from the start. This is a conversation which is dear to my heart as Ignition Law has been a key part of my own personal ‘legally different’ journey.

I admire Alex’s leadership style and would sincerely describe him as a human centred and values driven lawyer and leader. I’m sure you will sense that too…….

What you can expect:-

Alex’s journey into law

• Young ambitions of being a pilot grind to a halt as aspirations to become a lawyer take off;
• Early work experience opportunities and being drawn to the tangibility of law;
• A Magic Circle training contract and the early professional years including experience abroad and in-house.

Transition period

• New Years Eve – a resolution declared in front of friends which kick started Alex’s year of research and planning towards making a change;
• Alex’s reflections on how he navigated that time and what advice he’d give to someone making a similar transition; and
• Taking the leap!

Ignition Law – the early days and beyond 

• Transparency about the bumps in the road: personal and professional, money on the line, personal bereavements, working long hours and mental health pressures in the start-up phase;
• Keys to success including the importance of professional networks and the support of other law firms;
• “Culture eats strategy for breakfast” sums up the rest of this section quite well which is something Alex says part way through as we get into:-
• Attracting aligned clients and white labelling vs being authentic and transparent;
• The importance of values & integrity;
• Mental health in law;
• Ignition’s diverse hub of agile consultants;
• The important of supporting diverse talent and Ignition’s work experience programme; and
• Personal shares from Lauren about working as an agile consultant for Ignition Law and why Alex & Ignition Law are Legally Different.

Finishing up 

• Why Alex is Legally Different; and
• What Advice Alex would give to his younger self.

HELPFUL LINKS + CONTACTS

• Ignition Law's website
• Ignition Law's work experience programme
• Alex's LinkedIn
• Legally Different's email: hello@legallydifferent.com
• Legally Different's  Instagram
• Website for our partner Franc & Iris: www.francandiris.com

Finally, thank you to our partner for this episode, Franc & Iris blue light protective glasses. Light hygiene is so important in the digital age, thank you for protecting my eyes (in stylish way!) during screen time. You can get 15% off of your own pair (with free delivery) using the code LEGALLYDIFFERENT15 HERE.

Thank you for tuning in! 

You can expect a bitesize and tangible update which is applicable to our daily lives. You will hear what the New Moon on 4 November in scorpio means and how that is likely to show up for us. 

Helpful links + contacts

• Laurel’s website: www.laurelosullivan.com
• Legally Different's email: hello@legallydifferent
• Legally Different's  Instagram

This episode is all about how we can make more aligned decisions in order to create a more fulfilled life. I take you through my decision making journey over the years from analysis paralysis to clarity and flow and share tools that have helped me to make decisions with more ease.

What you can expect:-

• My journey with decision making
• Decision making tools & tips
• The Human Design 'authorities' (i.e. how we are each uniquely designed to make decisions)

Key links and follow up

• Book a session with me here ⚡
• Get your Human Design chart and find out your unique decision making authority here
• Legally Different's email: hello@legallydifferent
• Legally Different's  Instagram

Join me for this chat with Babs Jamieson, Founder + CEO of Jamieson Law a start-up UK practice with multi jurisdictional expertise. Babs is a qualified solicitor in England, Scotland, Ireland and New York! After time in traditional legal practice, Babs decided she’d had enough of dreading work, feeling unmotivated by the traditional ladder and dealing with imbalances as a female – she decided to quit, set up her own firm and do it in her own way. Babs is shifting old and broken paradigms in the way that she runs Jamieson Law. 

This is such an uplifting conversation (Babs has such an infectious energy!) whilst touching on some very real and important issues. One of those conversations is about the reality of being a female in law - we dig into where very real imbalances still remain, even though some progress has been made.

Babs tells her story in such a light and real way – it’s hard not to go away feeling both uplifted and informed. 

A summary of what you can expect:-

• Why Babs became a lawyer – a very real answer!
• Imbalances in law as a female.
• Babs’ realisation she didn’t want to be a partner and asking – so what am I aiming for?
• Quitting and that moment after – oh sh*t what have I done?
• Freelancing as a lawyer.
• Creating Jamieson law – Babs’ values and the paradigms she’s shifting.
• Setting up a law firm – the regulatory stuff!
• What Babs would tell her younger self.
• Why Babs is  Legally Different. 

Helpful links + contacts

• Website for our partner Franc & Iris: www.francandiris.com
• Jamieson Law's website: www.jamiesonlaw.legal
• Jamieson Law's Instagram: @babjamiesonlawyer
• Legally Different's email: hello@legallydifferent
• Legally Different's  Instagram

Finally, thank you to our partner for this episode, Franc & Iris blue light protective glasses. Light hygiene is so important in the digital age, thank you for protecting my eyes during screen time. You can get 15% off of your own pair (with free delivery) using the code LEGALLYDIFFERENT15 here.

Thank you for tuning in! 

Ryan is a former lawyer turned life coach and yoga teacher who shares in this chat how he’s navigated the changes that he’s made. He breaks it down in a really self reflective way that provides  helpful and empowering tips and advice for us all. We get into chats about unhealthy work patterns in law, the draw of the money, how to pursue a life that makes you feel lit up and much more! A common theme in this conversation, which I’m all about, kept coming back to the importance of knowing yourself and doing inner work.

A summary of what you can expect:-

• Why and how Ryan became a lawyer;
• The lure of money in the profession;
• International dreams and working from Singapore;
• Unhealthy demands in law – work creeping into holiday and family time;
• Ryan’s process to leaving and working out what lights him up;
• The story behind BigLaw Drop Out and why changing or ‘dropping out’ can be an empowering thing;
• What living a life that’s ‘lit’ is;
• The importance of real inner work + personal development; and
• Much more!

Thank you to our sponsor for this episode, Fit Delis plant based protein powder. I love how you nourish me on the daily with added goodness to my morning smoothie bowls! Proud to be teaming up with you and sharing your goodness.

Links and contacts:-

• Ryan’s website: www.iamryanspence.com
• Ryan’s Instagram: @iam_ryanspence
• Legally Different's email: hello@legallydifferent
• Legally Different's  Instagram

Thank you for tuning in!

Laurel O'Sullivan, with her pioneering Aries sun, is a former environmental public interest lawyer turned astrologer and women’s coach. Laurel helps women to advocate for their best lives and to navigate life transitions. She has a gift for breaking down astrology and applying it to life in a really tangible way.

I’ve been looking to bring an astrologer on the show for a while now, so it was awesome to connect with Laurel to bring this to you.

I was keen in this conversation for Laurel to break down some terms that you might have heard of including the wild Saturn Return that usually arrives in our late 20s/early 30s (and then again in our 50s) to shake things up  plus how our sun, moon and rising signs are relevant to our lives and what they are!

In this conversation, we cover:-

• Laurel’s career journey as a lawyer;
• Why, as an Aries, she’s particularly suited to being an advocate;
• Laurel's transitional periods and why she is passionate about being a women’s coach and astrologer;
• What our ‘sun’, ‘moon’ and ‘rising’ signs are and how they are relevant to our lives.
• What a Saturn Return is, the ages we can expect them to show up and the impact they have on us;
• What the ‘Aquarian Age’ is which we have recently entered;
• Insights into my personal signs and traits; and
• Much more!

Helpful links + contacts

• Website for our partner Franc & Iris: www.francandiris.com
• Laurel’s website: www.laurelosullivan.com
• Astrology website to find out your signs: Caféastrology
• Legally Different's email: hello@legallydifferent
• Legally Different's  Instagram

Finally, thank you to our partner for this episode, Franc & Iris blue light protective glasses. Light hygiene is so important in the digital age, thank you for protecting my eyes (in stylish way!) during screen time. You can get 15% off of your own pair (with free delivery) using the code LEGALLYDIFFERENT15 HERE.

Thank you for tuning in! 

P.S. What are your signs? I’d love to know! You can find out your sun, moon and rising signs here and drop me a line with them.

We kick off this series with a conversation with Tom Dunlop; a former professional badminton player turned lawyer turned legal tech entrepreneur. Tom is the Founder & CEO of Summize, which provides an intelligent solution for contract creation, review and management.

Throughout the conversation, Tom’s entrepreneurial spirit and drive for creative solutions really stood out for me and I'm sure you will connect with that too.

In this conversation, we get into:-

• Tom’s career journey covering; his professional sports career, qualifying as a lawyer, working in-house as General Counsel and pivoting away from legal practice;
• The contract challenges within the life of a typical lawyer;
• Tom’s entrepreneurial spirit and how it always showed up in different ways;
• Where the idea for Summize came from and the journey to its creation;
• Tom’s mindset, influenced by his professional sporting days; 
• The important of personal development; and
• Much more!

 I hope you enjoy this legal tech conversation with a sporting twist!

Thank you to our sponsor for this episode, Fit Delis plant based protein powder. I love how you nourish me on the daily with added goodness to my morning smoothie bowls! Proud to be teaming up with you and sharing your goodness.

Links and contacts:-

• Summize's website
• Tom Dunlop's LinkedIn
• Legally Different's email: hello@legallydifferent
• Legally Different's  Instagram

Thank you for tuning in, it means the world!

Lauren 

Welcome back - I'm still in the hot seat being interviewed by my awesome sister, Kerri. I can’t think of a better person as Kerri has been my ride or die and my right hand woman. She’s seen it all and supported me through thick and thin! Kerri interviews me about my own journey into law and how I made big life and work changes in the legal world. This conversation is split into two parts because there was so much to unpack and I wanted to be totally open with you.....plus being in conversation with my sister is such a vibe #sisterchats! In Part 2 we cover:-

• Quitting Big Law;
• The initial travelling phase - intentional but flowy;
• Labels - who are we without them? Everything stripped away and meeting new ppl no longer as “Lauren the Lawyer”, “Lauren the fun friend” etc;
• Life changing experiences including a journey of love - love for myself and the world;
• Bali - the first seed is planted about my next chapter ;
• Returning to the UK knowing I wanted to live in Bali and work remotely - how could I make this happen?;
• Deep dive into my skills and passions and remote opportunities;
• Working for BamLegal from Bali from October 2017;
• Living and working solo from Bali - coworking spaces, the people, the freedom and the cafe culture;
• The next chapter - yoga teaching training in Nepal with my sister;
• How I moved from yang / masculine ways to yin / feminine ways;
• Moving on from Bam - life coaching and other remote legal work;
• Finding Ignition Law, being amazed at how forward thinking they were / are;
• Life as a legal consultant - duty bound employment vs freedom centric consulting;
• Working ways - what fuels my fire;
• Living / working from Mexico in 2020;
• What I’d tell my earlier self if I could have a chat with her;
• Why I’m Legally Different - deep insights into being ‘different’ in an empowered and a disempowered way (self doubts about being blonde and from a working class background in law); and
• What’s next for Legally Different........

CONTACT INFO + LINKS

You can get in touch with me via Legally Different:-

• Instagram:@legallydifferent 
• Email:hello@legallydifferent.com

You can connect with my sister via:-

• Instagram:@konsciously.kerri
• Website: www.konsciouslykerri.co.uk

Thank you for tuning in!

Lauren 

I’m in the hot seat this time (eek!) and I’m joined by my incredible sister, Kerri, who interviews me. I can’t think of a better person as Kerri has been my ride or die and my right hand woman. She’s seen it all and supported me through thick and thin! Kerri interviews me about my own journey into law and how I made big life and work changes in the legal world. This conversation is split into two parts because there was so much to unpack and I wanted to be totally open with you.....plus being in conversation with my sister is such a vibe #sisterchats!

In Part 1 we cover:-

• Humble beginnings - from a working class town with an innate vision of something different;
• Why law - deep analysis of my conscious and sub conscious choices….plus a dash of inspo from Ally Mcbeal;
• Discussion re societal expectations and validation of our career choices;
• My legal path; A-levels, University, training at a large corporate law firm and early qualification years in Leeds;
• Moving to London - professional and personal insights;
• Starting to feel ‘off’ - having the swanky apartment, a ‘good’ job but feeling dread of work;
• Deep dive into society’s version of success vs what actually feels good;
• Accepting I needed to make a change;
  • Considering my options; corporate work vs non corporate, another law firm vs in-house - “same shit different shovel?”;
  • Inner soul nudges to totally quit Big Law and take a different path;
• Creating my ‘escape plan’; and
• My money journey (saving £10k to travel) inc huge mindset shifts.

I hope you enjoy this. Head over to Part 2 (Episode 16) for the part of my journey, post leap!

CONTACT INFO + LINKS

You can get in touch with me via Legally Different:-

• Instagram:@legallydifferent 
• Email:hello@legallydifferent.com

You can connect with my sister via:-

• Instagram:@konsciously.kerri
• Website: www.konsciouslykerri.co.uk

Thank you for tuning in!

Lauren 

I even worked for BamLegal myself in 2017 when Catherine trained me in legal automation which I did working remotely from Bali! Catherine was the first person to give me a remote opportunity in the legal world when I decided to leave 'big law' and traditional working ways. 

As I know Catherine well, she shares some personal insights and stories that she doesn't normally share (thanks Catherine for trusting me :-)) so you will definitely get to know more sides to her. In particular, she openly shares about a relationship break up and a period of burn out - both of which were pivotal growth moments for Catherine.  I love how she can turn lows around into positive experiences - her "phoenix out of the flames" moments as she calls it.

I LOVED this conversation and I hope you do to. We have lots of laughs and deep chats too! Two of my favourite conversations involve algebra and rockstars, I won't say anymore......

Tune in to be inspired by the awesome Catherine Bamford and to hear our takes on life, law and much more. 

In this episode we get into:-

• Humble beginnings - from a small town in Northern Ireland with BIG ambitions;
• Quitting school + travelling at 17...then getting onto a law degree with no A-levels;
• Early professional days; training with a small firm with lots of responsibility (plus clients with helicopters) vs NQ role at a large corporate firm;
• Learning from good and bad leaders.
• Starting to feel off - is this it!?
• Becoming passionate about legal tech via an internal secondment opportunity at Pinsent Masons, finding her flow and even impressing the software providers;
• That game changing hair cut moment! Break ups,  algebra + rockstars.....
• Going solo with legal automation and creating BamLegal;
• BamLegal's mission, how it has changed the legal space and how it helps lawyers feel fulfilled;
• Different chapters of BamLegal -  highs,  accolades, burn out and rising from the flames;
• Female leadership and the meaning of "entrepreneur" vs "female entrepreneur"
• Remote working and how things will change going forward (plus a throwback to when I work for BamLegal from Bali).
• What Catherine would tell her younger self if she could have a chat with her.
• Why Catherine is Legally Different.

CONTACT INFO + LINKS

You can find BamLegal's website here.

Connect with Catherine on Instagram or LinkedIn. 

Legally Different:-

• Instagram:@legallydifferent 
• Email: hello@legallydifferent.com

Thank you for tuning in!

Lauren 

James attributes his opportunities to the Oxford Policy Fellowship which works in partnership with governments of low and middle income countries to support  policy reform.

James' episode cover shows him wearing a traditional Sierra Leoneon "lappa" jacket made, which is proudly wore during his time there.

In this episode we get into:-

• James' path into law and early working career in Melbourne;
• The pivot period resulting in a fellowship based  in the Solomon Islands;
• The Oxford Policy Fellowship;
• Returning to Melbourne to undertake a masters;
• Working on health law reform in Sierra Leone;
• James' current position as legal adviser to  Papua New Guinea's National Department of Health;
  • What James does and typical projects he works on;
  • How the 'pandemic' has altered the focus of his work  - assisting with P&G's response  i.e. legalities around border closures.
• Personal insights of living / working in Papua New Guinea.
• What James would tell his younger self if he could chat to him.
• Why James is Legally Different.

CONTACT INFO + LINKS

You can find out more about The Oxford Policy Fellowship here.

You can connect with James via LinkedIn here. 

Legally Different:-

• Instagram:@legallydifferent 
• Email: hello@legallydifferent.com

Thank you for tuning in!

Lauren 

Have you heard of human design? It’s an amazing self-knowledge tool that I love and really align with, which is why I’m sooooo passionate about sharing this conversation with Livy. Whether you’re brand new to human design or have already dipped your toe in, you’re in the right place to find out more. Livy describes human design as a blueprint of our unique selves which gives us permission to be us and a deeper sense of acceptance of who are as individuals. Yes to that! When utilised in can be a powerful tool to help lean into our gifts in life, work, relationships and much more. I also love that it is being used more by corporates to help teams work most effectively.

Livy used to be a finance litigator, until she followed her inner nudges that something wasn’t quite aligned for her. Her deep sense of trust to follow her curiosities and intuition is so inspiring and is exactly what led to discover her passion for human design. 

If you don't know your own human design type, you can find out via the links below.

In this episode we cover:-

• Livy’s path into and out of a legal career
  • Always feeling different as a lawyer
  • The growth of that 'off’ feeling
  • Leaning into her curiosities starting to follow her intuition
  • Discovering her passion for human design
  • Stepping into human design and creating her business
• Human Design
  • Summary of each energy type; manifestor, generator, manifesting generator, projector and reflector.
  • Questions from the listeners + getting into the following in more detail:-
    • How to approach / interpret human design;
    • Generators;
    • Twins and human design;
    • What open centres are in your chart;
    • Manifestors and their aura;
    • What ‘non energy’ types are;
    • Reflectors as a mirror in the world;
    • Projectors and reflectors in the workplace / teams;
    • Parts of a chart that may make someone a leader; and
    • Understanding others via human design.
• Closing up
  • What Livy would tell her younger self if she could have a chat with her
  • Why Livy is Legally Different.
  • How you can work with Livy.

CONTACT INFO + LINKS

Find out your human design type via Jovian Archive or My Body Graph.

Livy’s website is here.

Livy’s Instagram page is here.

Legally Different:-

• Instagram:@legallydifferent 
• Email: hello@legallydifferent.com

Thank you for tuning in!

Lauren 

What an enlightening conversation with Vicki Prais. Having taken a commercial legal career path, my lens on  the human rights legal sphere is rather limited, however, it's such an important area as human rights impact us all at a personal level. So, I loved speaking with Vicki about her career path and various human rights issues - it was incredibly thought provoking.  

Vicki Prais is a human rights lawyer, podcaster, writer and mentor. We chatted about everything from current and topical human rights issues impacting the world right now (including freedom of expression and bodily autonomy) to Vicki’s podcast “The Passion Factor” which helps those navigating a career in human rights.

It was so interesting to hear about Vicki’s career in human rights and the impactful work she has been involved which is centred around dignity behind bars, torture prevention, prisoners’ rights and prison reform. “London is my home but the world is my workplace” captures the spirit and international reach of Vicki’s work so well, which has taken her working on a myriad of projects from Kosovo to Geneva.

We dived into restrictions on freedom of speech and expression in the context of a report that Vicki is working on at the moment relating to creatives and academics in Belarus and how censorship is playing out at a wider global level. 

I was particularly curious to find out, via a human rights lens, the issues around the vaccine roll out and where rights to medical freedom and bodily autonomy sit amongst any attempt to make this mandatory.

Finally, I love how Vicki explained that being a lawyer “plus” is what makes her Legally Different - a lawyer plus....a podcaster, mentor and writer. There certainly seems to be movement towards the “lawyer plus”, which I believe is healthy in order to grow beyond singular labels, and Vicki is such an inspiring example of this!

In this episode we cover:-

• Vicki’s path into law and a human rights career
  • Coming from a family of lawyers and having a passion for individual civil liberties
  • Volunteering at a prison creche whilst at University
  • International experience in Geneva with human rights organisations helping the UN
  • A masters in human rights and civil liberties.
  • Qualifying as a solicitor and working in immigration and asylum law
• Current legal career 
  • Going solo - 24 years in Vicki craved autonomy and decided to be her own boss in 2019 August and is now an independent human rights consultant
  • Key areas – dignity behind bars, torture prevention, prisoners rights and prison reform
  • Current work – ‘typical’ day / week (although there’s no such things as typical human rights)
  • Current interesting  project – a report on ill treatment of creatives and academics in Belarus
  • Vicki’s proudest work moment
• Current human rights issues
  • Freedom of speech / expression – Belarus and beyond
  • Issues around the current pandemic
  • Vaccine roll out and the human rights stance on making it mandatory
• Non-lawyer projects + passions
  • Writing a monthly column for Comment Central
  • Vicki’s podcast “The Passion Factor”
  • Mentorship – supporting young professionals
• Personal 
  • Mental and emotional health when doing tough work focusing on human lives
  • The concept of “proper selfishness”
  • What Vicki would tell her younger self if she could have a chat with her!
  • Why Vicki is Legally Different

CONTACT INFO + LINKS

Vicki's website

Vicki's Twitter

Vicki's LinkedIn

Legally Different:-

• Instagram:@legallydifferent 
• Email: hello@legallydifferent.com

Thank you for tuning in!

Lauren 

Louise describes herself as a creative go-getter, which I totally agree with! She's got such a fire in her, can make sh*t happen AND she's also soooooo creative! This is one of the many reasons why she's legally different to me.

In this episode we cover:-

• Louise's path into law - humble northern beginnings to a top global law firm.
• The highs of trainee lawyer life, including a secondment to Paris.
• Mental health
  • feeling deeply low and not knowing what was wrong
  • open shares around tears before work and in the office toilets
  • pressures of a Magic Circle firm including expectations of doing 'all nighters'
• Hitting "rock bottom" with  depression and a break down:-
  • leaving London and entering the recovery phase
  • feelings during the “low period”
  • finding purpose and igniting inner passion- via a temp job at HMV (this is one of my fave convos - deep insights into the  'simplicity' of this job but the power it had in 'saving' Louise and igniting her spark for life again).
• Doors start to open, work experience at Radio Cumbria, shadowing Jo Wiley and working for the BBC in London.
• Living / working in Australia.
• Diving into Louise's current freelance work in the audio + music world (including being Annie Mac's podcast producer).
• Finding law again, working for Ignition law on an agile / flexible basis and balancing this with the creative  audio work.
• The meaning of 'labels' we give ourselves (such an interesting convo around that!)
• What Louise would tell the earlier version of herself if she could have a chat with her.
• Why Louise is Legally Different.

CONTACT INFO + LINKS

You can find Louise's website here and connect with her via Instagram here.

Legally Different:-

• Instagram:@legallydifferent 
• Email: hello@legallydifferent.com

Thanks for tuning in!

Lauren 

In this episode we cover:-

• Kathy’s path into law:-
  • Studying history at Uni then the “what now” moment.
  • Qualifying at a London City firm into M&A and private equity funds.
• 1 year post qualification feeling unfulfilled and asking “where do I want to be in 5 years?”
• Kathy reflects on the analysis of her options at the time and how she obtained inspiration and insights into different career paths.
• Making strategic moves - becoming a management consultant for Boston Consulting Group.
• Finding the one! Why Kathy chose Compass Pathway and what her role entails.
• Kathy’s own personal insights into mental health and why the transformative impact of Compass Pathways was appealing.
• What Compass Pathways does:-
  • What psilocybin therapy is – from administration to integration
  • Progress with the clinical trials
  • Growth milestones in 2020 from investment rounds to becoming a publicly listed company
• What advice Kathy would give to the previous version of her who felt stuck and unfulfilled.

CONTACT INFO + LINKS

Compass Pathways

You can find their website here.

Kathy Xiang

You can connect with Kathy via LinkedIn here.

Legally Different:-

• Instagram:@legallydifferent 
• Email: hello@legallydifferent.com

Thank you for tuning in!

Lauren 

Salome is the wearer of many hats including a finance lawyer, photographer, artist and creative entrepreneur aka The Creative Lawyer.  Her goal is to build a lifestyle that encompasses all of these things as Salome recognises that she doesn't have to choose one to be successful, but that her success derives from the unique way that she combines the multi-faceted aspects of herself. Virtual hi-5 to that!

For many years she has navigated the world of law and finance whilst trying to develop her creative confidence and abilities. It was via a self-funded sabbatical in 2016 that enabled her to re-discover her creativity and creative confidence coupled with a strong conviction that she is more than a lawyer. 

Sit back, enjoy and be ready to receive your  permission slip towards Creative Living.

In this episode we cover:-

• Salome's path into law and transition from a 'Magical Circle' law firm;
• Salome's sabbatical and time out from law;
• Discovering and nurturing Salome's creative side and what 'Creative Living' means;
• How type A personalities  in fast paced careers can get creative;
• Return to law and how she works 'differently' in order to give time and energy to her creative passions and businesses;
• The meaning of 'success';
• Salome's candle making business and art prints;
• What Salome would tell a younger version of herself and why she's Legally Different. 

CONTACT INFO + LINKS

How you can connect with Salome and shop her creations:-

Website (blog + art prints): www.salomecoker.com 

Website (candles): Amakhi

Instagram: @salome.coker

LinkedIn: Salome Coker

Legally Different:-

• Instagram:@legallydifferent 
• Email: hello@legallydifferent.com

Thanks for tuning in!

Lauren 

As I reflected on my year I realised, actually,  notwithstanding the lows and challenges, came growth and opportunity which made it a pretty good year overall.

I share my personal insights and journey and in doing so hope to encourage you to reflect on  the growth and achievements you gained in 2020.

Remember, this is life through my lens  👁💛 we are all uniquely different, which makes us human.  Where I've provided insights into health (including mental health) this is based on my experiences and what works for *me*. Consider what works for you, research and take expert advice + support accordingly.

Resources

Here are some of the books, people + other resources mentioned in the episode that helped to shape my year:-

• The book by Michael Greger How Not to Die
• Bruce Lipton, the biologist
• Konsciously Kerri's plant based recipe e-book  🥑(use code 'veganuary' for 20% off in January)
• Victoria Bauman + owaken breathwork
• My fave cordless blender Blenywhere - 10% off with the code LEGALLYDIFFERENT 

Thanks for tuning in!

Lots of love - here's to an awesome 2021 full of optimum health, freedom, joy, love + abundance for all. 

Lauren 💛

In this conversation, Alan shares about his path to becoming a GC and a number of personal life matters. We have frank chats about Alan’s working class beginnings from brave + hardworking immigrant Chinese parents to fatherhood, including balancing work + family life and the differing characters of his children (nicknamed The Pioneer, The Wrecking Ball + the Allergy Baby – say no more), plus deep discussions around the grief process following the recent loss of Alan’s father.

In this episode we cover:-

• The beginnings - coming from hardworking, Chinese immigrant parents.
• Path into law – from University “through the usual sausage machine” and qualifying into corporate.
• Alan’s pivot period and his thought process which led him into an in-house role with a PLC.
• Further changes leading to his General Counsel role at a large investment company.
• The birth of the Candid Daddy blog - no pun intended ;-)
• Balancing a busy family life with being a General Counsel.
• Dealing with food intolerances in a young child.
• The uniqueness of childrens' characters and nurturing appreciation + non-materialism.
• Travelling to Hong Kong April 2020 – experience in 2 week quarantine.
• The death of Alan’s father and the grief process.
• Chinese New Year – what 2021 holds!......
• What advice Alan would give to the mini Alan Chan if he could turn back the clock.

CONTACT INFO + LINKS

Candid Daddy:-

Make sure you check out the Candid Daddy blog here. It’s definitely worth a read – be ready and laugh out loud, cry and anything in between! The instagram page can be found here.

Legally Different:-

• Instagram:@legallydifferent 
• Email: hello@legallydifferent.com

Thanks for tuning in!

Lauren 

Emma failed her first year studying law and now owns her own law firm in New Zealand specialising in residential property. After a number of years of running her legal business, Emma felt a calling to the ‘next thing’ but she didn’t know what that was, having reached the ceiling in her legal practice with nowhere further up the ladder to go. Emma turned to spirituality, something which she had been curious about for a long time, particularly in terms of how to merge business with the spiritual side of things. This led Emma to undertake her energy healing training and she became the first New Zealand based Marconics energy practitioner. 

Emma now has these two distinct businesses; a law firm and an energy + coaching business yet she admirably fuses the two in many ways. I love how Emma takes a holistic approach in managing her legal team with the wisdom she has gained from her spiritual journey, for example, by really prioritising wellbeing. Emma works hard not to repeat patterns that she did not admire in traditional law firms when it comes to managing her team by leading in a visionary new way. She has also found that legal contacts have been curious about Emma’s spiritual side and has even provided energy sessions to some contacts such as banking consultants and property agents. 

EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode we cover:-

Path into law

• How Emma went from failing her first year studying law to owning and running her own law firm.
• The challenge of making life/career decisions at a young age.

Spirituality + Entrepreneurship 

• Coming out of the spirituality closet and training as an energy practitioner.
• Creating the energy business - Soul Sovereignty.
• What Marconics energy work is and how it differs from other energetic modalities (i.e. reiki).
• What a Marconics session with Emma involves and how you can work with her.

Leadership

• How energy work has helped Emma to lead her law firm in a new way and what that looks like in tangible ways.
• Doing business from a place of soul sovereignty.
• Why Emma didn't want to re-create traditional forms of leadership seen in law firms.
• Prioritising wellbeing, collaboration and an open door policy.
• Personal boundaries and filling up your own cup

General Gems

• Making decisions by going inwards and learning to trust yourself.
• How legal skills can benefit us in other passions and disciplines.
• Nourishing morning practices and life lessons from having a dog!
• How to make a change if you’re feeling burnout or unfulfilled
• Why Emma is Legally Different and the advice she would give herself two years ago.

CONTACT INFO + LINKS

• Connect with Emma via Instagram here  (dog lovers - this is a place for you especially!)
• Link to Emma’s energy and coaching  website here
• Emma’s law firm website can be found here

Legally Different:-

• Instagram:@legallydifferent 
• Email: hello@legallydifferent.com

Thanks

Lauren 

Sabrina’s experience has involved working for the Rwandan war crimes tribunal, legal aid in Zambia and death row in Sierra Leone. 

Sabrina is particularly passionate about helping women who have been unjustly criminalised as the result of patriarchal and archaic systems. One way she helps these women is via AdvocAid, an NGO that she founded with 3 other women which helps girls and women within the legal system of Sierra Leone. Amongst many notable accomplishments, AdvocAid has helped free 6 women from death row. 

Even beyond Sabrina’s day to day work, she is an admirable pioneer for female leadership and improved opportunities and access for black and ethnic minority people into the legal profession.

This episode is for those truly curious about real life stories of injustice, trials and triumphs. Sit back with an open heart and get ready to be inspired!

// Please note that Sabrina speaks entirely in a personal capacity in this episode and not on behalf of any organisation //

EPISODE SUMMARY:-

• Sabrina’s path into law, ignited upon witnesses her father’s arrest.
• Experience within the Rwandan war crimes tribunal and domestic prisons in Sierra Leone including stories of women criminalised for poverty and abuse.
• The work that AdvocAid and the Elders Foundation do.
• AdvocAid’s grassroots response to COVID-19.
• Sabrina’s proudest success involving a death row case.
• Self care and dealing with the pressures of this work.
• What real female leadership involves.
• How access to justice can really be improved in the world.
• How the legal sector can improve access to legal careers in a real way for black and ethnic minority groups
• Takeaway advice – what Sabrina would tell the younger version of herself wandering around a careers fair………

CONTACT INFO + LINKS

Sabrina and the organisations she works with:-

• Connect with Sabrina via her twitter account @Sabrina_Mahtani.
• AdvocAid - find out more here, DONATE or APPLY for an intern / volunteer role.
• The Task Force on Justice Report referred to at 42 mins can be found here.
• The COVID Justice Fund can be found here.

Legally Different:-

• Instagram: @legallydifferent 
• Email: hello@legallydifferent.com

Thanks

Lauren 💛💫

💫CONTACT INFO & SOCIAL LINKS

Here’s how you can follow and reach out to Charlene:-

Instagram: @charlenegisele

Linkedin: Charlène Gisèle Bourliout

Website: www.charlenegisele.com

Email: coach@charlenegisele.com

Intrigued about how you can optimise your health with Charlene’s support? Stay tuned until the end for an exclusive 20% discount to the Legally Different community if you want to work with Charlene.

I've also teamed up with Blenywhere for this episode so you can get a 10% discount on a Blenywhere Fusion Portable blender - to help you stay healthy on the go. Just use the code "LEGALLYDIFFERENT" at the checkout.

💫EPISODE DETAILS

A taster of what to expect……

💫Charlene’s path into law +  early career

+ Childhood ambitions - in awe of her Father’s office papers!

+ From the vineyards of France to Cambridge University

+ Life as a construction litigator in London with an American firm

+ Maintaining passion for art around a busy career with Sotheby’s and Christie’s

💫Transitional Period

+ Passion for career but signs of disconnection from self, nature + health

+ Small pivot into a non-practising legal role

+ Personal life - a divorce and more personal realisations

+ 30th Birthday in Bali 

💫Going all in - a spiritual journey

+ Stripping back - labels, material items and ways of life

+ Silence and stillness at an Ashram in India

+ Ceremonies with Gurus in Nepal, finding magic in Bali and tantric yoga in Ibiza

💫The Business – Health Coaching

+ Charlene’s desire to help professionals - learning from her own mistakes and sharing  wisdom from the East and our ancestors

+ What is primal living?

+ What is biohacking?

+ The benefits of fasting and ice baths

+ Holistic coaching with Charlene beyond nutrition (sexuality, relationships, sleep,  breath)

+ Tangible ways Charlene can help

💫Closing

+ The final juicy question – stay tuned for some deep insights and takeaway advice

+ An offer for Legally Different listeners - in need of health optimisation with Charlene’s support? We have a 20% discount offer for you!

I hope you love this episode as much as I do!  Feel free to get in touch directly with me, I’d love to hear from you either via @legallydifferent on instagram or by email at hello@legallydifferent with your feedback.

With love + good vibes,

Lauren

💫 EPISODE DETAILS

A taster of what to expect……

💫Liv’s path into law

+ Uni, travels, career considerations + the GDL / Law School

+ Huge financial commitments and pressures.

+ Route into and passion for criminal defence + mental health law.

💫Transitional Period

+ Initial shifts  on the brink of qualifying as a higher rights solicitor.

+ Liv’s “WHAT THE F*CK moment” - honest insights of how Liv felt at this time.

💫A new life in Turkey

+Finding love and making the leap from London life to Turkey.

+ A key learnings and challenges faced alongside the positives - language, cultural and relationships.

+ Maintaining self-expression whilst culturally adapting.

💫The Business – Simbar & Beanies

+ Starting and growing a business – café, bar, holiday house, post office and art gallery.

+ Discovering Liv’s creativity.

+ About Patara – it’s beauty, history & things to experience.

+ Entrepreneurial insights, learnings & tips.

💫Closing

+ The final juicy question – stay tuned for some deep insights and takeaway advice

+ An offer for Legally Different listeners - fancy a stay at the beautiful Sage House?

💫 CONTACT INFO & SOCIAL LINKS

Here’s how to link up with Liv and follow her wonderful business:-

Instagram: @simbarbeanies @oliviajoymiles

Facebook Page: Simbar & Beanies

Airbnb: https://abnb.me/cWgz4AZGOab

Stay tuned until the end for an offer for the Legally Different community for those who fancy a trip to Patara, Turkey to stay in beautiful Sage House!

I hope you enjoy this. I’m sure you will get lots of value from it! Please rate and review this episode - it would be the world - and feel free to get in touch directly with me, I’d love to hear from you either via @legallydifferent on instagram or by email at hello@legallydifferent.

Thanks

Lauren

💫 Episode Details:-

• Getting to know Kathy – some background
• Path into law
  • Early international ambitions and craving work with impact. Working for the Swiss embassy in Canberra, Australia.
  • A masters in law on the Gold Coast - “Out of diplomacy bubble…and having to start from scratch”. Practical legal training at a tax law firm around study and part time work.
  • Qualifying as a lawyer in Australia and starting her career in tax law.
• Transitional period
  • Pivot period feelings and the final tipping point…having to put in another holiday request….”is this really it!?”.
  • Quitting her career and travelling.
  • Finding love and the digital nomad way of life in Bali. The proposal…."do you want to come travelling with me?".
• The birth of Wanderers Wealth
  • Tax talk over the dinner table with some confused digital nomads in Bali.
  • Creating WW – initial challenges, nerves and learning curves.
  • How WW helps digital nomads, remote workers and location independents. That typical problem: when you are everywhere and your clients are everywhere – where do you pay tax and how should you structure things to suit what you are doing in the best way?
• The current tax climate and how it’s evolving 
  • Developments in digital nomad taxation with a focus on Estonia leading the way; e-residency programme and digital nomad visa.
  • Digitalisation and globalisation.
  • Impact of coronavirus: remote working trend and the tax landscape.
• Entrepreneur life
  • Why Kathy loves working for herself.
  • The current meaning of success – working hard vs ease and taking care of yourself.
  • New exciting projects and focuses for Kathy + WW.
  • WW’s online course and an exclusive offer for the Legally Different community – a self guided course to help you create your own tax strategy.
  • Next country on Kathy’s list (when things open up).
• Closing up
• Final juicy question followed by some final powerful takeaway advice from Kathy.

💫 Exclusive Legally Different offer:-

"TENOFF" is the code to use for a 10% discount on the Wanderers Wealth e-course

💫 Kathy's contact info:-

• Website: www.wandererswealth.com
• Instagram: @wanderers.wealth // @kathymcpaul
• Email: info@wandererswealth.com

💫 Legally Different contact info:-

• Instagram: @legallydifferent 
• Email: hello@legallydifferent.com

I hope that you enjoy  this episode. I'd love to receive your feedback and connect with you more. 

Thanks

Lauren 💛💫