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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1) AI transformation ≠ “add a tool”; it’s “redesign the work”

Victoria frames a common failure mode: organizations bolt AI onto existing workflows instead of questioning whether those workflows make sense in the first place, especially in knowledge work.

Practical reframing for leaders:

What is the purpose of this workflow?

What decision is a human actually making here?

What can be simplified or deleted before we automate anything? 

2) The barrier is dropping so the “who can do this?” conversation changes

The episode highlights how quickly AI is moving from specialist territory to broad accessibility (no-code tools, conversational interfaces), which raises the stakes for shared understanding, norms, and guardrails. 

3) Hidden adoption is real and it creates risk (and a leadership opportunity)

We discuss the reality that many people are already using AI quietly, which means schools and organizations need clarity and psychologically safe training environments. 

4) Burnout won’t be solved by “more output”; it’s solved by “better use of human time”

A central point: if AI removes routine tasks but leaders refill that time with more routine tasks, nothing improves. The higher-order shift is using reclaimed capacity for work that builds culture and learning (coaching, reflection, feedback, relationship-rich instruction, better decisions). 

5) Start small: experimentation is a strategy, not a side quest

Victoria repeatedly returns to “run the reps” thinking: pick a small use case, test it quickly, learn, and stack wins as data points. 

6) Education lens: advance the mission because AI is not going away

You explicitly connect the conversation to school realities: the goal is not to “win AI,” but to move the mission forward in a world where AI is embedded into everything. 

Actionable Takeaways for Teachers and Leaders

Run a 2-week “AI workflow audit”

Pick one recurring task (newsletter, family comms, lesson resource creation, feedback bank).

Map the current steps.

Ask: Which steps are “human judgment” vs “human labor”?

Create a “safe sandbox” norm

One protected time block/week for staff to try a use case and report back.

Focus on learnings, not performance. 

Name and support champions (formal or informal)

Champions are “self-appointed” and momentum makers; don’t wait for a committee. 

Reinvest reclaimed time into the most human work

Student conferencing, richer feedback loops, community-building routines, coaching conversations. 

Resources and Links

Silicon Valley Executive Academy (SVEA) — program model centered on immersion and experience-based knowledge sharing. Silicon Valley Executive Academy

Victoria Mensch (LinkedIn) — leadership and AI transformation writing. LinkedIn

Microsoft / LinkedIn Work Trend Index (AI at work + BYOAI) — useful framing for why hidden adoption and governance matter. Microsoft

Suggested Past Episodes

216: Designing Trustworthy AI in K-12: NASA, Ethics, and Teacher Voice (David Lockett) — direct complement on governance, ethics, and implementation realities in schools. Podcasts

222: From Burnout to Better Questions – Human-Centered AI Adoption (Jackie Celske) — closely aligned with the burnout → redesign theme and the “people/process over tools” framing. Podcasts

218: Teaching What Can’t Be AI’d (John “Camp”) — matches the “reinvest in what’s human” thread (presence, discourse, competency-based learning). Podcasts

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Key Takeaways:

Attention is a Superpower: Why losing the ability to focus is a loss of personal power, and how to safeguard your attention footprint.

Primary Sources vs. Commentary: The importance of reading the original documents (like a Supreme Court opinion) rather than relying on biased analysis from talking heads.

Quality of Thought: A three-step framework for better thinking: write it down, speak it to a human, and publish it publicly to face scrutiny.

Bias for Action: Why you should ship "version zero" and fix it later, rather than waiting for perfection.

The Power of Helping: How the simple act of helping one person without strings attached is the root of true entrepreneurship.

Guest Connection

Kira Shishkin on LinkedIn: Connect here

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Quotes

"News readership as the biggest investment you can make in yourself as an adult... keeping in touch with the world as espousing a curiosity for the environment in which you are."

"Attention is the human superpower. Whatever your superpower is, it gets unlocked through your attention."

"We focus on significance. We don't focus on things that will trigger you... We focus on things that are going to change the world."

"Perfect is the enemy of done... You would rather get a version zero out there in the world... than wait for double or triple the time to figure out some sort of perfect version."

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Episode Snapshot

Jackie’s journey from burnout and “doing all the things” to rebuilding life and work around what actually matters

Why 80% of AI projects fail—and what schools and organizations can do differently

The “Disney trash” lesson: stop chasing flashy AI and start with the boring, high-impact problems

Women, confidence, and creating safer spaces to learn and lead with AI

“...our value is in who we are, not in what we do”: using AI to rediscover identity, not erase it

Practical, non-tech-bro ways to play with AI in your daily life (email, trip planning, speaking practice, and more)

Episode Highlights

Jackie’s story of walking away from a job that broke her health and identity and rebuilding life and work from Nashville

Why 2023 felt like a turning point with ChatGPT and how it pulled her from digital marketing into AI adoption and strategy

What “AI adoption” actually means (beyond tools) and why communication, culture, and expectations matter more than features

The harsh reality: most AI projects fail, not because of the tech, but because of people, processes, and misaligned outcomes

The “Disney trash” example: how starting with boring, high-volume, repetitive tasks beats chasing sexy, impossible AI dreams

A compassionate look at why many women hesitate to jump into AI and how community, safety, and “permission to not know” change that

Everyday use cases Jackie loves: practicing presentations with AI video, drafting hard emails, energizing workouts, travel planning, and using voice tools in playful ways

The deeper theme: AI shows us how not-special our tasks are, but it also clarifies how irreplaceable our humanity is

Connect with Jackie Celske

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacquelinecelske/

Website – The Prose Co.: https://www.theproseco.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theproseco/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theproseco

Quote

Being human is your superpower

Resources

• Rand study 80% AI projects fail
• Women are avoiding AI: HBR
• Gender Divide

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Episode Highlights

Revisiting Moxie and how closing it deepened their understanding of AI, ethics, and learning

The balance between innovation and honesty when your business depends on what you critique

How technical knowledge led them from excitement to skepticism

Moxie “AI Sandwich” workflow and how to use AI to brainstorm and refine while keeping the human in the middle

Kimberly’s story of watching her husband evolve from using AI for tests to using it to write creative scripts for science students

The hidden costs of AI tokens, data, energy, attention, and what it means to “pay the real price”

Why the most valuable outcomes of AI may be emotional: motivation, reassurance, and calm

Rethinking productivity: what if being “more efficient” isn’t the goal?

Quotes

On understanding AI as novice vs. expert

....you can't think critically about something unless you are already an expert, unless you have some level of expertise. There came a point where we were experts enough to see… to think critically enough to say, oh, whoa, wait, hold up, hold up.

What is it worth to you?

....what would I be willing to pay if I had to pay the true cost of this? Because right now, our use of AI is fully subsidized by venture capital and these big tech companies. But if you had to pay the full cost of what that interaction was, if it's $75, would you pay for it?

Power of Choice

....what are you saying no, and what are you saying yes to? And not just in terms of financial, but all resources. Time, energy, serenity. I think about serenity as a resource for me, because I need to refill my cup. I cannot just be a yes girl, because I somehow ended up one.....what are you willing to pay for in all the different ways we pay for things, and are you saying yes to too many things?

Mirage of Productivity to Save Time

And it's just crazy to think that this is gonna give us more time, and we're gonna be more productive and more efficient. No, you're just gonna get a new task......this mirage of we'll reach so much productivity that we'll have a leisure class, it'll be a four-day work week. It's never happened, and what do you know? It's not going to happen, because that is not the culture and the system that we are in, which prioritizes growth at all costs, no matter what.

Resources

Episode 207: The Importance of Good Writing, Curiosity, Bravery, and the Process of Living

Practical AI for Educators PD for Higher Education Session 3 Breakout With Kimberly

Jessica on LinkedIn

Kimberly on LinkedIn

Link: AI Sandwich Graphic by Moxie

Book: Empire of AI

Substack: Women Writin' 'Bout AI

Podcast: Women Talkin' 'Bout AI

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Clare shares how a career in behavioral and neuroscience research led her to question whether her work truly served the world and how that moment of disconnection sparked a master’s in Applied Positive Psychology and a deep dive into curiosity interventions.

She explains the science behind curiosity and well-being like how curiosity broadens perspective, strengthens creativity, and helps us find meaning and purpose.

Clare describes creating “Curiosity Thursdays”, unpaid days dedicated to exploration and learning and how intentional time for curiosity fuels new thinking.

The conversation explores balancing curiosity with productivity: scheduling curiosity intentionally, matching brain energy to task type, and building rhythms like “Wonder Wednesday” meetings to re-ignite collective wonder.

Clare unpacks top-down vs. bottom-up curiosity and purposeful learning versus open, unstructured noticing and why both are essential for creativity and growth.

She discusses the intersection of curiosity and AI, including how awareness and questioning keep our brains engaged rather than passive.

Clare introduces her Curiosity Sprints that are two-week experiments inspired by Agile thinking designed to make learning iterative, joyful, and evidence-based.

We reflect on how curiosity can help redefine success, shift from “achievement” to “enjoyment,” and re-learn the lost art of being bored.

Featured Quotes

On the necessity of intention

“I had to intentionally carve out that time, because otherwise something more important would always be there. There has to be an aspect of intentionality around curiosity in the world we live in today.”

On balancing curiosity and efficiency

“I’ve given myself permission, and I’ve actively chosen to be curious. Know the importance of it, be purposeful about it—and then schedule it into your day.”

On curiosity and AI

“Curiosity actually amplifies memory. So if we can ignite our curiosity before we go in and ask a question of an AI, we’ll remember more and learn more deeply.”

On slowing down and not being busy

“We are so busy all the time that we don’t really have any hobbies, or we don’t know what our hobbies are anymore. And it’s like, I don’t know how you find that when you’re always busy—you can’t listen, you can’t hear, you can’t find that creativity that’s bubbling up inside you.”

On redefining success

“I stopped asking, ‘What do I need to achieve this week?’ and started asking, ‘How can I make this week as enjoyable as possible?’ It was a shift from achievement to enjoyment—and it changed how I lived each day.”

On curiosity as practice

“When I wanted to make changes in my life, I didn’t know how. I just turned them into two-week sprints and figured it out. It’s empowering—because you’re building confidence in your own ability to learn and grow.”

Resources & Links

• Clare Inkster on LinkedIn
• The Curiosity Experiment
• The Curiosity Experiment on Instagram
• Research and studies on amount of questions we ask through the ages
• Clare email address clare@thecuriosityexperiment.co.uk.
• Global Curiosity Institute website to measure curiosity https://www.globalcuriosityinstitute.com/diagnostics
• Your Brain At Work Book
• Top Down vs. Botton Up Processing Video or Article
• MIT Study: Your Brain on ChatGPT and Clare LinkedIn Post That Inspired My Question
• Blog post about sprints
• Satya Nadella article on culture of learn-it-alls

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Stephanie shares how family vacations to Disney sparked her early love for travel and curiosity about the world.

She explains how formative middle and high school trips inspired her to create unique, personalized travel experiences through her company, Lost in Adventure Travel.

The conversation explores how travel builds empathy and human connection by meeting people, hearing their stories, and seeing everyday life in different cultures.

Stephanie discusses how being a parent influences her approach to accessible trip planning, focusing on visual schedules, pacing, and flexibility so every traveler can fully participate.

Both reflect on the importance of downtime and moments of rest during travel, recognizing that learning and reflection often happen in those quiet spaces.

She talks about concerts and live music as experiences that bring people together, reminding us of our shared humanity.

Featured Quotes

Why travel matters

We as humans have a tendency to live inside our own echo chambers, and when we push ourselves beyond our comfort zone, which travel really can do, whether it's stepping on the airplane, getting on the train, just leaving our homes sometimes can be scary. It challenges our mindset, it challenges our bodies physically sometimes, it expands our worldview, it allows us to meet people that aren't just like us....it's really important to try and understand where other people are coming from, mindsets, like, physically, where do people live? How is it different than what my house looks like? How is it different than how I was raised?

Power of a Guide

....guides are the storytellers of the destination. Guides, I think, make or break a vacation

Creating Wanderlust Locally

Allowing yourself to go out and try a new restaurant. Try, like, go for a hike in a place you've never been. Those kind of experiences help drive the wanderlust as well, and allow us to step outside of that comfort zone a little bit.

Challenge for Living

..don't be afraid to take that first step. Whether you are traveling to Asia, or you're exploring your town, going to the concert that you wanted to go to, allow yourself to have the human experiences.

Challenge for Immersion

...allow someone to tell you a story about where you live about the town next door, go to a museum. Allow yourself to take the tour. Don't… just be your introverted self. Don't just grab your phone and learn about it, but go out there and talk to these people. And, I just think that overall, we will be better off.

Learn More

Stephanie on LinkedIn

Lost in Adventure Travel

Suggested Past Episodes

215: Born to Jump — Tara Martin on Courage, Story, and Self-Care
Why it fits: Courage and story as catalysts for change which are the same muscles you need to launch travel experiences or classroom micro-adventures.

214: From Independence Day to Interdependence — Steven Puri
Why it fits: Designing work that prioritizes culture, presence, and curiosity is perfect framing for travel as community-building.

104: Estella Owoimaha-Church — Building Empathy through the Arts
Why it fits: A deep dive on empathy and restorative practices; complements this episode’s theme of travel as perspective-taking.

Camp’s path to NEIA and why he still teaches while leading (modeling the work)

Courage as the catalyst for change in any system, at any scale

Competency-based assessment as a school-wide skill map (transfer across humanities, science, math, Innovation Studio)

“Linear school” in a nonlinear world and how AI can help us blow up the old schedule logic

Walking the fine line: college-prep and “what-comes-next” prep (love this framing)

Keeping innovation alive after year 1: support systems, permission to try (and fail), and tapping teacher passions

Workflow talk: using ChatGPT to organize brainstorms; Google Classroom paired with “Otis” for competencies; protecting life balance

Teach what can’t be AI’d: discourse, idea-to-idea connection, and real human presence in the room

One small “ruckus” for tomorrow: break the pattern with a 10-minute gallery walk or other quick shift that re-energizes learning

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Resources & Links

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  • Tiny Experiments Book

NEIA Profile: John Camp: https://neiacademy.org/team/john-camp/

Camp on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/campsm/

Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death (referenced in the discussion with link to my blog post)

Alpha School: (referenced in AI discussion)

Highlighted Posts (good primers for listeners)

Why human-to-human discourse beats screen-staring (ties to “teach what can’t be AI’d”).

Quick wins to break the invisible rules (small, classroom-level ruckuses).

Episode Quote

If you don’t like something, change it. If you can’t change it, change your attitude. Maya Angelou

and

We don’t just think outside the box, we act outside the box.  Camp

and our love for Neil Postman

Teach children something about the art and science of asking questions.
Question-asking is the most significant intellectual tool human beings have.

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Rebecca’s journey from communications into AI and ethics research.

The moment in 2022 when ChatGPT changed the conversation about AI.

Misconceptions: why AI is not a fad, and why it matters for everyone.

Quick wins with generative AI from reading terms & conditions to learning through NotebookLM.

Her mantra: “Never trust a large language model.” What that means and why human oversight is non-negotiable.

The risks of over-trusting AI when it feels “human.”

Opportunities in strategy: using AI for pattern-finding, scenario testing, and persona-building.

Practical advice for staying safe: separating personal/work accounts and turning off data training.

Why experimenting with Claude, ChatGPT, or Gemini is the best starting point.

Rebecca’s daily workflow: from AI-powered health stacks to automations that save brainpower.

Final advice: control the controllables, start small, and build confidence step by step.

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Resources & Links

Rebecca’s website: rebeccabultsma.com (speaking, workshops, resources)

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/rebecca-bultsma (active posts on AI ethics, policy, comms)

X (Twitter): @rebeccabultsma — “AI awe + rational anxiety” stream and resource drops

TikTok: @rebeccabultsma (short takes on AI, comms, and ethics)

Instagram: @commsrebecca (communications + AI insights)

Highlighted Posts (good primers for listeners)

“POV: You’re the ‘AI ethics’ person and not freaking out about LinkedIn’s data use.”
Nuanced take on platform data and practical risk framing (great for comms leaders). LinkedIn

“Never trust an LLM” in practice.
Threads/posts where she pushes for human review, disclosure, and trust-building. Pair with her SchoolCEO feature. Apptegy

Defining AI ethics as a philosophical puzzle.
Reflective post that shows her influences and systems lens. LinkedIn

AI learning resources roundup.
Shareable list of podcasts, newsletters, books, and courses, great on-ramp for teams. X (formerly Twitter)

Webinar: Navigating AI Tools in Schools.
Concrete strategies for K-12; sets expectations for ethical adoption and practical wins. risevision.com

Courses & Tools Mentioned:

OpenAI Academy – Free ChatGPT classes

Google AI on Coursera – AI 101 course

Anthropic Academy – Free Claude courses

NotebookLM – AI-powered research synthesis

• The Boring Report
• GPT - JobsGPT by SmarterX
• Zapier - https://zapier.com/ai 

Episode Quote

“Anything you can’t do well, or you feel overwhelmed by have generative AI help you. That’s what it’s amazing for. It can be that external brain when you need it.”

– Rebecca Bultsma

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Top Takeaways

1. Start where you are, start small. Reverse engineering and cross‑curricular alignment build admin buy‑in and teacher confidence.
2. Make it hands‑on. Robotics, geospatial data, drones, and art integrations hook curiosity and translate AI into the real world.
3. Bake in ethics and trustworthiness. Teach students to question data flows, wearables, and terms of service without doom and gloom.
4. Broaden participation intentionally. Recruit widely, guarantee tool access, and position students as peer experts to level the field.
5. Use your teacher voice. Join listening sessions, meet reps, ask questions, and shape AI policy and funding.

Chapters / Timestamps

• 00:00 – Welcome & why this conversation now
• 01:51 – David’s current roles + new workforce development announcement
• 04:00 – From classroom to national initiatives (Einstein Fellow, 3C at Duke)
• 05:44 – Teacher fears, mindset, and the power of perspective
• 08:31 – NSF AI Institutes (AVO): design, prompts, trustworthiness
• 10:50 – NASA partnerships & a new grant (AI + drones)
• 13:32 – Entry points: reverse engineering; cross‑curricular buy‑in & PD
• 17:20 – Secret sauce: collaboration, robotics + data + art
• 20:55 – Broadening participation: recruiting, access, student experts
• 24:08 – Teaching ethics & trust: classroom modules and what “trust” means
• 26:55 – Wearables, privacy, and reading the ToS
• 28:08 – Policy & advocacy: funding, privacy, and meeting your reps
• 31:57 – Getting started: PLNs (ASCD, ISTE, NSTA, NASA) and vendor curricula
• 35:58 – Teachers: your everyday practice is worth sharing
• 41:39 – Full‑circle moment: Python in MS → PhD data science today
• 44:38 – Where to find David + final advice

Note: Timestamps are approximate based on the raw recording.

Resources & Mentions (add links)

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  • Meharry Medical College — School of Applied Computational Sciences (SACS) — https://sacsmeharry.org/ 
  • NSF AI Institutes Virtual Organization (AVO) — https://aiinstitutes.org/
    (Overview of all institutes: https://www.nsf.gov/focus-areas/ai/institutes)
  • White House OSTP Listening Sessions (AI Bill of Rights process overview) — https://bidenwhitehouse.archives.gov/ostp/ai-bill-of-rights/listening-to-the-american-people/
  • NASA STEM Engagement — Learning Resources — https://www.nasa.gov/learning-resources/
    NASA EXPRESS (weekly STEM newsletter) — https://www.nasa.gov/learning-resources/nasa-express/
  • NASA Student Opportunities (HS challenges, programs, field trips) — https://www.nasa.gov/learning-resources/nasa-stem-opportunities-activities/
    NASA Internships (HS/college) — https://www.nasa.gov/learning-resources/internship-programs/
  • Hands-on NASA STEM activities (technology/aeronautics) — https://science.nasa.gov/learn/lessons-and-activities/
  • Reverse engineering AI in the classroom (ISTE feature on David Lockett) — https://iste.org/blog/building-ai-student-creators-meet-artificial-intelligence
  • Meharry SACS — Trustworthy AI in Medical Systems (NSF CAP project) — https://sacsmeharry.org/taims/
    Ethics overview (PDF) — https://sacsmeharry.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/2_Ethics.pdf
    Use case: Ethical & Trustworthy AI (PDF) — https://sacsmeharry.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/1_Use-case-trustworthy-AI.pdf
  • PLNs: ASCD — https://www.ascd.org • ISTE — https://www.iste.org • NSTA — https://www.nsta.org
  • Tynker × NASA: Moon-to-Mars coding activities — https://www.tynker.com/hour-of-code/nasa-return-to-moon
    NASA page: Host an Hour of Code with Tynker — https://www.nasa.gov/stem-content/host-an-hour-of-code-on-the-moon-with-nasa-and-tynker/

Connect with David:

Instagram https://www.instagram.com/_davidjlockett/

LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidjlockett

X/Twitter https://x.com/DavidJLockett/status/1843755067306086451

Tara’s journey from classroom teacher to instructional coach, district leader, and now Director of Publishing at Dave Burgess Consulting.

Why mentors who see potential in us can change the entire trajectory of our lives.

The Be REAL framework (Relatable, Expose vulnerability, Approachable, Learning through life) and why it matters in every relationship.

Lessons from Cannonball In about fear, confidence, and tuning out the “dabblers” who sit on the sidelines.

How Tara sustains her energy and creativity through systems: journaling, fitness routines, accountability groups, and her “ups and downs” T-chart.

The importance of self-care and giving yourself permission to put your needs on the calendar first.

The healing power of story and why fitting in is the opposite of true belonging.

Why Listen:
If you’ve ever felt torn between giving everything to your work and finding space for yourself, Tara’s perspective offers both inspiration and practical strategies. This conversation is about teaching, yes — but it’s also about building a life where you can thrive.

Resources & Links:

Connect with Tara: Website | Twitter/X

Tara’s books: Be REAL: Educate from the Heart | Cannonball In

Join the Conversation:
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Share your reflections in the comments or tag me and Tara on social media.

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Resources Referenced in Podcast

• Book referenced in podcast: The Net and the Butterfly
• Podcast 213: Tools, Totems, and Totalities

Learn More & Connect:

Learn more about Steven: www.TheSukha.co/media

Community: Join over 34K members at The Sukha

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Twitter/X: @stevenpuri

What We Talked About

This is not your typical education or leadership interview. This conversation has us chatting about:

How Hollywood taught Steven the true art of collaboration

The myth of “just work harder” and why outcomes and not hours matter most

His “Two-Problem Creativity” strategy and what neuroscience reveals about ideas in the shower

The power of having dedicated spaces and rituals to unlock deep work

Why being bored is essential for creativity and how education might be missing this entirely

What Transformers and middle school students have in common when it comes to learning environments

Why the culture you build in teams, families, or classrooms matters more than any productivity app

“If you give someone one thing to work on, they’ll overthink it. But give them a second task and the creativity starts to breathe. It’s always about the other thing.” – Steven Puri (modified from the convo)

Why This Episode Matters

Steven brings a rare blend of technical depth, storytelling mastery, and raw honesty. He talks candidly about failure, what he learned from Hollywood burnout, and why he believes today's generation is at risk of having their lives stolen by the scroll.

For educators, this episode offers real-world insight into how to design space for curiosity, not just content delivery. And for leaders, it's a reminder that trust, clarity, and mission-driven work beat micromanagement every time.

If you're a teacher, creator, parent, or just someone navigating the chaos of modern work and life this episode will shift how you think about focus, learning, and growth.

Resources Mentioned

The Sukha – https://www.thesukha.co

Join The Sukha community – 34K+ members and counting

Book: The Net and the Butterfly by Olivia Fox Cabane and Judah Pollack

Related Episode: Podcast 213: Tools, Totems, and Totalities

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Instagram: @the_sukha_co

Twitter/X: @stevenpuri

Media + bio: www.thesukha.co/media

Episode Highlights

[00:01] Steven’s Hollywood-to-tech origin story

[00:09] Why creativity is never “on demand” and how boredom fuels innovation

[00:15] The “two-problem” rule for creativity & the neuroscience of distraction

[00:22] Designing remote teams around flow, not control

[00:30] Culture, mission, and what makes people actually show up

[00:38] How education and corporate systems both crush curiosity and what we can do about it

One Final Thought

“Productivity isn’t about squeezing more out of your day—it’s about creating space for what really matters. Including your life.” – Steven Puri (modified from the convo)

Why “technology” means more than just tools

The role of totems in identity (think: cars, smartphones, fashion tech)

How totalities define entire systems in education and society

The enchantment of technology—and how it competes with human connection

AI as artificial “ignorance” and the narrowing of imagination

The lost art of boredom and its role in creativity

What convivial design looks like in daily life (yes, the family dinner table!)

Practical takeaways for teachers, parents, and anyone seeking digital balance

Key Takeaway:
This episode is a reminder to educators and humans alike: if we want deeper learning, richer relationships, and authentic joy, we must intentionally create space for boredom, presence, and human connection.

• Technology is more than tools as it also shapes identity and entire systems.
• Conviviality (connection and community) is a powerful counterforce to tech hegemony.
• Educators should challenge assumptions that students are digital natives.
• We must create space for boredom, listening, and authentic face-to-face human interaction.
• AI may reduce imagination by boxing in our thinking and we must stay aware of its limitations.
• Reflection and reconnection found as time around a dinner table or time in nature can reset our human values.

Buy the book Tools, Totems, and Totalities and explore the deeper social and cultural dimensions of technology.
Reach out to Dr. Batteau at a.batteau@wayne.edu for further conversation.

 

Dr. Allen Batteau Bio:

Allen W. Batteau, PhD is a cultural anthropologist, professor at Wayne State University's Department of Anthropology, and former director of the University's Institute for Information Technology and Culture. He is the author of The Anthropology of Aviation and Flight Safety (2001), Anthropological Approaches to Culture, Aviation, and Flight Safety (2002, and numerous other books and articles including Technology and the Common Good in a Democratic Society (2020). A certified private pilot, his research has been funded by the National Science Foundation, the US Air Force, the National Aeronautics and Space Ad-ministration, and numerous other corporate and international bodies. He holds a Ph.D. from the University of Chicago.

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Takeaways

Authentic learning is about process, not polish. Messy work is real work.

We don’t need to reinvent the wheel—we need to reconnect with what matters in learning.

Students need to see themselves in their work and communities.

Teachers are not meant to be the sole experts—bring in community voices.

There’s power in learning “out loud” and sharing what we don’t know.

Start with tiny experiments and let curiosity lead.

Real change in schools begins with relationships and relevance.

Chapters

00:00 - Intro to Laura Williams and Authentic Learning
04:38 - What Does “Authentic” Really Mean in Education?
08:22 - Lessons from Educator Partnerships
12:10 - Connecting Students with Community Experts
16:55 - Project-Based Learning Without Perfection
21:43 - Barriers to Authenticity in School Systems
26:02 - Starting with Tiny Experiments
29:11 - The Role of Curiosity and Student Voice
33:45 - Bringing the Public into the Classroom
37:19 - Tools, Frameworks, and First Steps for Teachers
42:00 - Final Reflections and Where to Learn More

Resources

Authentic Learning Alliance

Join the Network

Her book, The Improvement Game

Follow Laura: @mrswilliams21c on IG, X, LinkedIn, Bluesky, TikTok

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Takeaways

Focus is not about more effort—it’s about better strategy and self-awareness.

ADHD is not a deficit in intelligence but a challenge in managing attention and regulation.

Productivity must include mental health, not come at the cost of it.

Transitions—into university, new careers, or independent learning—can be overwhelming without support systems.

Reflective practices, safe spaces, and collaborative environments are essential for real learning and growth.

Understanding the why behind distraction helps build better habits and not just guilt cycles.

Psychologically informed practices help students and professionals reclaim autonomy in high-demand environments.

Burnout often stems from mismatched expectations and lack of recovery.

Compassionate teaching starts with giving ourselves permission to pause, reflect, and realign.

Chapters

00:00 Alicia’s Journey into Psychology and Education
06:00 Applying content from Tiny Experiments into her practice
12:30 Focus & Excitement for Learning,
14:00 Power of Vulnerable Spaces and Moving Into Education Spaces
17:30 Procrastination?
20:00 Burnout in High-Pressure Academic and Workplace Settings
24:55 Building Systems That Align With Wellbeing
31:00 Cell Phones In Classrooms
36:00 Less Tolerance For Boredom

39:00 Final Thoughts and Ideas Worth Sharing

43:00 Misconceptions of Engaged vs. Learning and the Perception of Either

Resources

Alicia Peña Bizama Website

Tiny Experiments

• Podcast 210 where I speak with author of Tiny Experiments and founder of Ness Labs

Upcoming Sessions with Alicia

Understanding ADHD and Strategies to Improve Focus and Productivity

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Monday 12.05.25 at 15:00–16:00 UK time

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 Takeaways

Linear goal-setting can trap us in burnout and a deficit mindset.

Learning and growth are nonlinear—curiosity and experimentation create deeper impact.

Traditional definitions of success often limit creativity and autonomy.

Tiny experiments help reclaim control, joy, and discovery in our personal and professional lives.

The education system can benefit from embracing experimentation over rigid outcomes.

Community and conversation are powerful tools for mental health and learning.

Neuroscience helps explain why curiosity and self-compassion are crucial for sustainable progress.

Instead of obsessing over perfection, we can focus on consistent iteration and playful learning.

Self-defined success leads to healthier productivity and long-term well-being.

Educators and knowledge workers alike need safe, brave spaces to question norms and try new paths.

Chapters

00:00 Welcome + Introduction of Anne-Laure
03:10 Linear Thinking vs. Nonlinear Exploration
06:15 Anne-Laure's Shift from Corporate Life to Purpose-Driven Curiosity
10:50 The Origins of Tiny Experiments
14:20 Power of Community and Learning in Public
2o:45 Neuroscience of Learning and Curiosity with Plus, Minus, Next
26:00 The Beauty of New Learning With Published Book
30:30 How to Start a Tiny Experiment Today
Educators as Explorers, Not Just Executors

Resources

Ness Labs Community

Tiny Experiments: A Book by Anne-Laure Le Cunff

• Book website

Anne-Laure’s Keynote at SXSW

Anne-Laure on Twitter/X

Aaron’s Full Podcast Archive

• Learning is a vulnerable experience that requires admitting what you don't know.
• Creating engaging learning experiences is essential for both students and teachers.
• Trust and faith in the learning process are crucial for transformative education.
• Experience is the best teacher, and learning should be experiential.
• The education system needs to be remade to support teachers effectively.
• AI can enhance learning but does not replace the need for human creativity and experience.
• Creating a safe space for failure is necessary for real learning to occur.
• Communal learning experiences foster trust and collaboration among educators and students.
• Professional development should focus on what teachers are doing, not just what they are being told to do.
• Education should prioritize ideas and personal expression over performative tasks.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to CodeJoy and Kelsey Derringer
03:10 The Importance of Lifelong Learning in Education
05:57 Vulnerability in Learning: A Personal Perspective
09:01 Breaking the Education System: Kelsey's Journey
11:53 Innovative Approaches to Teacher Engagement
15:02 Creating Interactive Learning Experiences
18:06 The Role of Social Learning in Education
21:01 Reframing Teacher and Student Roles in Learning
26:33 The Nature of Learning and Experience
27:50 Human Evolution and Learning Challenges
28:50 Creating Safe Spaces for Learning
30:12 The Importance of Iteration and Failure
32:35 The Role of Experience in Education
34:35 Creativity and Trust in Learning
36:48 The Intersection of AI and Education
39:22 Shifting Focus from Performance to Ideas
42:10 The Human Experience in Education
46:09 Building Trust and Community in Learning

Resources

• CodeJoy
• CodeJoy on Socials
• 25 Days of Making
• The Artist's Way
• Hans Zimmer Isn't Scared of AI

• Mindfulness and emotional intelligence are essential in education to support the well-being of both students and educators.
• Establishing a noble goal and understanding one's why can help educators stay connected to their purpose and navigate challenges.
• Taking the time to pause, reflect on emotions, and choose self-care strategies can help educators manage stress and prevent burnout.
• Providing space for vulnerability and self-care in the education system is crucial for the overall well-being of educators and students. Educators need to prioritize their own well-being and practice self-awareness and self-care.
• The KCG framework (Know Yourself, Choose Yourself, Give Yourself) can help educators navigate difficult situations and manage their emotions.
• Emotions are data and should be acknowledged and understood.
• Education should focus on the whole child and provide educators with the tools and support they need.
• Showing up for others and spreading love can have a profound impact on individuals and communities.

Sound Bites

• "Mindfulness and emotional intelligence are essential in education."
• "Establishing a noble goal and understanding one's why can help educators stay connected to their purpose."
• "Taking the time to pause, reflect on emotions, and choose self-care strategies can help educators manage stress and prevent burnout."
• "Emotions that are in your body for like six seconds."\"KCG: Know Yourself, Choose Yourself, Give Yourself"

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background
10:30 The Work of Challenge to Change
23:07 Creating Space for Self-Reflection
27:40 Challenges of Bringing Mindfulness Practices into Schools
29:36 The Importance of Emotions in Education
33:55 Managing Emotions in Challenging Situations
38:14 Bringing Emotional Intelligence into the Classroom
44:48 Creating a Culture of Empathy and Understanding

Resources

• Challenge To Change
• Guided Mindfulness
• Six Seconds
• Jordan Turner Bio
• KCG. Know Choose Give

• AI can be used as a tool for augmentation in education, supporting academic writing and research.
• Curiosity is a powerful driver of learning and exploration in the AI space.
• Simulations can help students test their research ideas and understand the implications of their decisions.
• Good writing in academia involves the ability to synthesize research, support claims, and communicate effectively. Prioritize the audience in communication and understand their needs and wants
• Focus on the writing process and experiment with different strategies to improve
• Embrace bravery in pursuing goals and trust in the support of others
• Stay updated on advancements in AI technology and leverage them for feedback and guidance
• Recognize the influence of TV shows and movies in shaping personal experiences and perspectives

Sound Bites

• "It's not just about AI. It's about thinking and learning and articulation and how we leverage emerging technology to continue to push what's potential."
• "You don't have to be a technical person to start an AI EdTech company. You can learn on your own."
• "The ability to create simulations for students so they can test their research ideas and understand the implications of their decisions."
• "Put the audience as your primary priority and put what you wanna say on the back burner and understand what the audience needs or wants to hear."
• "Good writing is about process, not just product."
• "Being brave also means collectively trusting that you are surrounding yourself with people who are going to have your back and who can do things that you can't."

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background
02:55 The Role of AI in Education
08:06 Navigating the Challenges of AI in Education
16:00 Exploring Topics in AI and Education
25:59 The Importance of Good Writing in Academia
29:12 Putting the Audience First: Effective Communication
30:57 The Power of Process: Enhancing Writing Skills
35:46 Embracing Bravery: Pursuing Goals and Taking Risks
39:35 Advancements in AI Technology: The Impact of Claude III
42:47 Influential TV Shows and Movies: The Sound of Music and Ghost

Resources

• Here is the slidedeck to check out all the ideas discussed and the ones we did not have time to cover
• Moxie website to learn about the work and opportunities https://academicinsightlab.org/team
• Kimberly on LinkedIn
• Jessica on LinkedIn
• Anne Lamott book, Bird by Bird
• 10% Happier Podcast
• Adam Grant Podcasts
• The Alchemist book
• "What you seek is seeking you", a quote from Rumi
• "Follow your values and not your passions becase your passions will change but your values tend to stay the same"
• 197: The Art of Authenticity: Living Out Loud with Brant Menswar 

Slidedeck of her ideas to explore as we did not get to them all

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Takeaways

• Vicki Davis believes that students should be at least 17 or 18 years old before getting cell phones.
  She emphasizes the negative impact of unrestricted cell phone access on students' mental health, sleep patterns, and social interactions.
• Vicki recommends watching the AI Dilemma YouTube video to gain a better understanding of AI technology and its ethical implications. Autonomous weapons raise ethical concerns and the need for human accountability in AI decision-making.
• Understanding AI ethics and the impact of technology is crucial for shaping the conversation and making informed decisions.
• AI education should focus on the process rather than just tools, and educators should address the ethical use of AI.
• Addressing knowledge gaps in math education is essential to ensure students have a solid foundation for future learning.
• Creating custom GPTs can be a valuable tool for personal and classroom use, but it should be supervised and used ethically.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background
03:22 Vicki Davis' Journey in Education
28:44 Recommendation: AI Dilemma YouTube Video
33:21 Ethics of Autonomous Weapons
34:19 Ethics of AI and Accountability
35:18 Ethics and the Impact of Technology
36:38 Balancing AI Education and Tool Usage
37:35 The Challenge of PD and AI Education
38:28 Teaching the Writing Process and Ethical Use of AI
39:24 Teaching Research Process and Avoiding AI Cheating
40:13 Addressing Knowledge Gaps in Math Education
43:34 The Importance of Conversations and Awareness about AI
46:17 Creating Custom GPTs for Personal and Classroom Use
54:06 The Craft of Teaching and Surrounding Yourself with Positive Influences

Resources

• https://www.coolcatteacher.com/
• When I was lucky enough to be on her show!
  • From 2013: ECM Show #13: Teacher Aaron Maurer https://go.shr.lc/4brPIB8
  • From 2017: 5 Ways to Improve STEAM Learning at Your School - https://go.shr.lc/44SUaGB
  • From 2019: 25 Days of Making: When Educators Make, Create, and Have Fun - https://go.shr.lc/3KbmlqQ
• Change. Improvement. Technology. Productivity. 
• How her book impacted me.....and reference to Vine(remember that?) Blogging: Why It Matters To Develop The Student Brand 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cphiov_RFc&feature=youtu.be

Resources

• Inspiration of show format from Tim Ferriss Podcast
  • Life Lessons from Taylor Swift, Conquering Anxiety, Coaching Teens, Career Reinvention, Supposedly Gay Bulls, Your Shadow Side, and More — Soman Chainani (#720) https://tim.blog/2024/02/06/soman-chainani/ 
• Slides of all topics shared and not shared due to time
  • https://1drv.ms/p/s!AqtnAB8NPT2-9HrD7fxxexgmUAV6
• Previous Podcast With Lisa
  • 111: Happiness Advantage Roundtable Discussion Part 1 https://coffeeforthebrain.com/111/
  • 116: Happiness Advantage Roundtable Discussion Part 2 https://coffeeforthebrain.com/116/
• Spotify Daylist is Blowing Up—Too Bad the Creator Was Laid Off 
• Tom Petty Greatest Hits
• A Little Bit Of Love by Weezer 
• SCARF
• Clear Thinking book
• Mississippi Bend AEA

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Experimental Format
03:17 Lisa's Origin Story
08:55 Something That Sparks Excitement: Human Behavior and Social Constructs
16:27 Object of Meaning: Tom Petty's Greatest Hits Album
23:12 Reflecting on a Recent Shift in Perspective: Co-Regulation
35:17 Something That Sparks Excitement: Weezer's 'A Little Bit of Love'
39:43 Weezer and the Power of Music
40:14 Introduction to SCARF
41:28 The Five Domains of SCARF
42:56 Applying SCARF in Education
44:23 Identifying Threat Responses
45:17 Strategic Responses to Threats
46:16 Complex Change Matrix
47:21 Problem Solving and Solution Focus
50:08 Creating Structures for Productive Conversations
54:51 Best Pieces of Advice

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Takeaways

• Gratitude can be a powerful foundation for AI, guiding its use and ensuring a positive impact.
• Play and experimentation are key when getting started with AI, allowing for creative exploration and learning.
• AI tools like ChatGPT can be used as thought partners and co-hosts, enhancing productivity and creativity.
• Incorporating AI in the classroom can provide new opportunities for learning and problem-solving.
• Embracing AI can enhance learning, problem-solving, and productivity, leading to a better future. Curiosity and experimentation are key to discovering the full potential of ChatGPT.
• The art of intelligence involves using personal creativity and making unique connections.
• Asking great questions is crucial for getting useful and usable output from ChatGPT.
• Embrace your unique flavor and don't be discouraged by the idea that everything has already been done.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Setting the Stage
02:58 The Power of Gratitude in AI
06:13 The Origin Story of Grateful AI
09:23 Navigating the Worries and Fears of AI
16:43 Getting Started with AI: Play and Experiment
21:41 Lessons and Workflows from AI Experts
32:20 Using ChatGPT as a Co-Host and Thought Partner
37:04 Incorporating AI in the Classroom
40:27 Embracing AI to Enhance Learning and Problem Solving
46:56 Exploring the Possibilities of ChatGPT
48:21 The Art of Intelligence
49:21 The Importance of Asking Great Questions
50:41 Embrace Your Unique Flavor
52:41 The War of Art
54:02 Connect with Mark Latimer

Resources

• https://www.linkedin.com/in/artofchatgpt/
• https://www.youtube.com/@OpenAiTraining
• https://solopreneuraicoach.com/
•  

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Takeaways

• The current system of recognizing learning and competence is narrow and leaves many people behind.
• Credentials should include the expertise and affiliations of the content creators to provide more transparent and meaningful signaling.
• Considering different perspectives and ideas is crucial for a healthy democracy and society. Malformation and propaganda can distort the way facts are used and understood.
• The current information infrastructure, driven by the attention economy, shapes behavior and power dynamics in society.
• There is a need to create a new infrastructure that values the quality of attention and knowledge.
• Education should be valued beyond its immediate application in work and school.
• The economic value of intellectual data should be recognized and protected.
• Proof of human knowledge is essential in a world where fabrication and misinformation are prevalent.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background
02:47 The Problems with Credentials, Verifiability, and Status Signaling
14:39 Reflecting on a Recent Shift in Perspective: Democracy through Socrates' Eyes
34:20 Rethinking How We Value Learning
37:34 Creating a New Infrastructure for Society
44:19 The Economic Value of Intellectual Data
48:49 Proof of Human Knowledge
55:06 The Forward from 'Amusing Ourselves to Death'

Resources

• The Readocracy Manifesto
• A humble proposal to turn the internet upside down
• Intros to Infobesity and Information Wellness
• Browse Mario knowledge profile: www.readocracy.com/mario
• Neil Postman Amusing Ourselves To Death book
• Cal Newport Slow Productivity book

• Combining AI with sound educational practices can enhance the learning experience.
• The problem is not AI itself, but how we use class time and design learning experiences.
• AI can be leveraged to support students in the writing process and develop their skills as learners.
• Effective instructional practices, such as blended learning and student agency, are essential for empowering students and creating meaningful learning experiences. AI has the
• potential to bring about much-needed change in education.
• Teachers should consider alternative instructional models to meet the diverse needs of students.
• Resistance to change can hinder progress in education.
• Taking small steps and focusing on one aspect at a time can lead to success.
• Engaging in physical activity can bring joy and help disconnect from work.

Chapters

 Introduction and Background
The Importance of Combining AI with Sound Educational Practices
The Problem is How We Use Class Time, Not AI
The Idea for the Book: Shifting Writing into the Classroom
The Importance of Intentional Design and Leveraging AI
The Need to Rethink the Classroom Experience
AI as an Editor of Thinking
The Promise and Misconceptions of AI
The Learnership and Developing Learners
The Need for Effective Instructional Practices
The Need for Change in Education
Barriers to Effective Learning
Teachers' Resistance to Change
The Potential of AI in Education
Reigniting Passion for Teaching
The Best Piece of Advice
Finding Joy in Physical Activity
Connecting with Catlin Tucker

• Play is not just for young children, but a natural and necessary part of learning for people of all ages.
• Playful learning experiences engage the brain and help information stick, making learning more effective and enjoyable.
• Play can be rigorous and challenging, but it should not be rigid or boring. It can foster creativity, collaboration, and problem-solving skills.
• Integrating play into education requires a shift in mindset and a willingness to embrace a playful approach to teaching and learning.
• Start small and look for opportunities to infuse play into daily classroom activities, gradually building a culture of playfulness.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Excitement
00:55 Jed's Background and Work
03:41 The Importance of Play
06:33 Defining Play and Its Impact on Learning
11:13 The Need for Play in Education
17:00 The Power of Playful Learning Experiences
20:06 Making Playful Learning Accessible
23:21 The Connection Between Play and Innovation
25:23 The Misconception of Play in Education
29:43 Dabbling in Playful Learning
35:10 Play as a Behavior and a Mindset
36:29 Starting Small with Playful Learning
37:10 Creating Playful Interactions in Education
38:12 The Desire to Make Learning Fun
39:12 The Role of Play in the Education System
41:00 Bringing Fun and Playfulness into Learning
44:06 The Power of Making a Mark
45:57 Raving About Jed's Doodles and Stickers
47:26 Connecting with Jed on Instagram

Resources

• Jed main website - https://www.mrdearybury.com/
• Instagram
• Access to his three books
• As he talks about what happens in the brain, it connects with this episode
• What Happened To You by Oprah
• Playful Intelligence
• Peter Gray
• Dr. Stuart Brown

• How to shift perspective on how we examine the world around us
• How we sometimes take visual art for granted
• AI is being advertised as a solution for artists, but it is also seen as a threat to the creative industry.
• Seeking out and appreciating discarded, low-budget, and niche art can provide a unique and fascinating experience.
• Life and experience life

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background
03:33 Claire's Journey into the Comic Industry
07:03 The Importance of Visual Storytelling
15:36 The Power of Creativity and Enjoying Life
25:04 Giving Yourself Permission to Have a Nice Time
35:09 Analyzing and Critiquing Media
43:21 The Fascination of Inquiry and Wonder
44:03 The Impact of AI on the Creative Arts
45:53 Reassessing What It Means to Be Human
46:13 The Environmental Impact of AI
46:36 AI as a Threat to Artists and Creatives
47:47 The Economic Destruction of the Creative Industry
48:59 The Importance of Protecting Art as an Industry
49:49 The Gruesomeness of AI-Generated Art
50:22 The Value of Human Output and Trying
51:21 The Appeal of the Unknown and Strange
52:46 The Fascination of Bizarre Artifacts
54:41 Seeking Weird and Niche Art
55:17 The Value of Discarded and Low-Budget Art
56:40 Encouraging Creativity and Artistic Expression
57:26 The Process and Dedication of Artists
58:57 The Resurgence of Independent and Niche Art
01:00:23 The Hope for a Renaissance of Humanity
01:02:24 Challenging AI with Handmade Art
01:03:05 Taking on the Challenge of Creating by Hand
01:03:29 The Power of Vulnerability and Sharing Art
01:04:36 Where to Learn More About Claire

Resources

• https://www.clairenapier.com/

• Storytelling is a powerful tool in education and can help create connections and understanding.
• Understanding the neuroscience behind communication and relationships can lead to more effective teaching and learning.
• Trust and play are essential in creating safe and engaging learning environments.
• The intersection of technology and humanity offers both opportunities and challenges.
• Reading the classics and embracing a growth mindset can enhance personal and educational development.
• Winter swimming can be an adventurous and invigorating activity that promotes well-being. Health benefits play a crucial role in overall well-being.
• Understanding the neurotransmitter cocktail can help optimize brain function.
  
   

Chapters

00:00 Introduction
01:00 The Power of Story
03:01 Exploring What It Means to Be Human in a Global Age of Technology
06:05 The Role of Neuroscience in Communication and Relationships
10:03 The Importance of Trust and Play in Education
13:05 Creating Safe and Engaging Learning Spaces
19:13 The Impact of Oxytocin, Dopamine, and Cortisol on Learning and Relationships
22:43 The Intersection of Technology and Humanity
29:29 The Value of Reading the Classics and Embracing Growth Mindset
36:47 The Immersive Experience of Winter Swimming
44:14 The Importance of Health Benefits
45:03 Connecting on LinkedIn and Instagram

Resources

• Website
• Instagram
• LinkedIn
• AHA! Website

• Heather Cooper's background in education and her love for reading and storytelling have influenced her approach to tech writing and content creation.
• Visual communication is a powerful tool for breaking down complex information and making it accessible to a wide range of audiences.
• AI has the potential to revolutionize education by providing personalized learning experiences and supplementing traditional teaching methods.
• Educators should embrace AI as a tool to enhance learning and provide additional support to students, rather than viewing it as a form of cheating.
• Heather emphasizes the importance of empathy, adaptability, and resilience in navigating different fields and learning new skills. Twitter was a great platform for Heather to learn how to condense ideas and write effectively.
• Compelling titles, hooks, and images are essential for grabbing people's attention and conveying the main idea.
• Heather curates and shares information using various tools, such as summary tools and AI platforms.
• She aims to make these tools accessible to regular people and help them navigate the overwhelming amount of information available.
• Heather explores different art styles using AI models and emphasizes the importance of understanding the techniques and vocabulary associated with each style.
• She encourages others to start their projects and not wait for the perfect time, as tomorrow is never promised.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background
01:27 Heather's Journey and Approach to Education
04:12 Transition to Writing and Creativity
07:02 Learning Coding and Tech Writing
09:01 Using Visual Content and AI in Education
13:47 Heather's Superpower
17:13 Applying Skills and Mindset to AI
19:14 Overcoming Hurdles in AI Education
23:18 Bringing People Together with AI
28:02 Curating and Processing Information
29:06 Sharing Information and Tools
36:03 Organizing and Managing Information
39:01 Creating and Organizing AI Artwork
40:37 Prompt Creation and Exploration
42:20 Analyzing Prompts and Effects
43:48 Using Emojis as Prompts
45:11 Testing Prompts on Different Generators
46:07 Combining Art and Mechanics
47:31 Exploring Different Perspectives and Lenses
48:27 Applying Traditional Photography Techniques to AI Art
49:21 Expanding Vocabulary and Language Use
50:26 Embracing Change and Learning New Skills
51:17 Don't Wait, Just Get Started
53:46 Raving About Heather's YouTube Platform
56:18 Where to Find Heather's Work

Resources

• Visually AI Newsletter by Heather
• Visually AI YouTube Channel
• Heather on Twitter/X

• 191: Chaos Sparks: Embracing the Black Sheep Within 

"Authenticity resonates at a different frequency... when you experience real authenticity, you feel a sense of connection that is so much more powerful than what we experience on a daily basis." - Brant Menswar

"If you don't do the work, then you don't know who you are. You know a reflection of what everybody else says you are. But you don't know you." - Brant Menswar

"Real change requires real work. It's hard, but it's getting better, you build those habits." - Brant Menswar

"You're never going to outperform your inner circle... it should make you think long and hard about who you let in your inner circle." - Brant Menswar

"Stop being so self-absorbed. Stop worrying about what you're doing next and live in that present for just a second... I promise you, you're gonna go to bed that night going, this was a good day." - Brant Menswar

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background
01:10 Transition from Music to Speaking
02:12 Writing 'Black Sheep' and its Impact
03:29 Superpower: Connection and Hope
05:06 Navigating Grief and Finding Hope
06:20 Choosing Your Inner Circle
08:06 The Importance of Self-Care
09:33 Real Change Requires Real Work
11:25 Discovering Non-Negotiable Values
13:22 Knowing and Speaking Your Values
15:10 Living with Deliberate Intention
17:19 Choosing Your Purpose
19:31 Differentiating Between Really Important and Non-Negotiable
23:19 The Power of Choosing Your Purpose
26:05 Expanding the Message and Impact
40:24 Focusing Energy and Linear Progression
42:02 Raving about Positive Impact
45:12 Controlling Your Own Narrative
48:05 Authentic Connections and Impact
49:08 Encouraging Others and Passing on the Message

Resources

• Brant Menwwar Website - https://www.brantmenswar.com/ 
• Black Sheep: Unleash the Extraordinary, Awe-Inspiring, Undiscovered You 
• Discover Your Non Negotiables 

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Takeaways

• Privacy is a fundamental right that should be protected and respected.
• Algorithms can limit our exposure to new ideas and perspectives, leading to echo chambers and confirmation bias.
• Building trust online requires responsible technology development and platforms that prioritize user needs.
• Education plays a crucial role in understanding the implications of technology and fostering critical thinking.
• Considering the ethical implications of technology is essential to ensure its positive impact on society. Privacy is a crucial aspect of our lives in the digital age, and we need to be aware of the potential consequences of technology.
• Biometric data, such as voice and facial scans, can be misused for deepfakes and scams, highlighting the importance of protecting personal information.
• Data breaches can have severe implications, and individuals should be cautious about the information they share online.
• Privacy education is essential to help people understand the risks and make informed decisions about their data.
• The internet never forgets, and individuals should be mindful of what they post online, as it can have long-lasting consequences.
• Literature can provide insights into privacy violations and data bias, encouraging readers to think critically about these issues.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Importance of Privacy
03:00 The Role of a Privacy Officer
08:18 The Misconception of Having Nothing to Hide
11:33 The Limitations of Algorithms and Trust Online
16:00 The Need for Champions of Digital Trust
20:09 The Impact of Algorithms on Content Quality
23:20 The Importance of Human Connection on Social Media
27:05 The Need for Responsible Technology Development
32:14 The Importance of Education and Broadening Perspectives
37:21 The Role of Humans in Technology
40:29 Considering the Ethical Implications of Technology
41:32 Privacy and Technology
43:09 Biometric Data and Deepfakes
44:16 Data Breaches and Consequences
47:04 Lack of Privacy in the Digital Age
49:14 Importance of Privacy Education
51:31 The Internet Never Forgets
52:12 Data Bias and Privacy Violations in Literature aka Harry Potter

Resources

• Lydia Knab on LinkedIn
• iRobot Deal With Amazon
• Trust 3.0 - 2024 Crystal Ball Full Webinar
• My personal LinkedIn favorite post - https://www.linkedin.com/posts/activity-7154604738360016897-dia-?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop
• How about we start to try to make humans better instead of trying to build the ultimate « intelligent » machine …? Not by biohacking and transhumanism but by 😱 … wait for it … EDUCATION..?. https://www.linkedin.com/posts/activity-7154496626118594560-s6RJ?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop
• DANGERS OF ENSHITTIFICATION
  • https://www.linkedin.com/posts/activity-7151966112228786176-cK40?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop
  • https://americandialect.org/2023-word-of-the-year-is-enshittification/
  • Cory Doctorow Tiktok's enshittification
• Invisible Women: Data Bias in a World Designed for Men 

00:00 Introduction and Background
03:00 Creating Robo Wunderkind
08:00 The Importance of STEM Education
13:00 Promoting Diversity in STEM
18:00 Approaches to STEM Education in Different Countries
23:00 Goals of Robo Wunderkind
28:00 Success Stories and Impact
33:00 Best Piece of Advice
35:00 Raving about Something Awesome
41:00 Conclusion and Appreciation

Resources Mentioned In Show

• https://www.robowunderkind.com/us/home
• https://iowastem.org/Scale-Up
• https://www.linkedin.com/in/annaiarotska/
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_All_Mankind_(TV_series)

All platforms and past episodes: https://coffeeforthebrain.com/podcasts/

Takeaways

• AI has the potential to bring important topics to the forefront of education, such as ethics, critical thinking, and problem-solving.
• Educators play a crucial role in guiding students in the ethical and responsible use of AI.
• AI can be leveraged to address accessibility and inclusion in education, empowering students with diverse learning needs.
• Teaching AI mindsets and skillsets is essential for preparing students for a future with AI.
• Partnerships between AI companies and educational institutions can drive innovation and create opportunities for students.
• Human pedagogy should be at the center of education, ensuring the well-being and care of students and educators.
• Technology, including AI, can play a role in supporting positive learning experiences and providing tools for students.
• Integrating personal stories and the human element in education can enhance the learning process.
• Being kinder to oneself and embracing vulnerability are important for personal growth and learning.
• Change should be embraced, and tools should be utilized to solve real-world problems and engage students.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Focus on AI
03:33 Elizabeth's Background and Global Perspective
09:26 Exploring AI and Beta Testing Google Bard
12:48 AI's Impact on Learning and Education
18:14 Partnerships and AI in Education
26:49 Leveraging AI for Accessibility and Inclusion
34:05 Teaching AI Mindsets and Skillsets
36:51 Teacher Feedback and Implementation Challenges
44:48 The Importance of Human Pedagogy
45:18 The Role of Technology in Taking Care of Humans
46:05 Integrating the Human Element in Education
46:35 Best Piece of Advice: Be Kinder to Yourself
49:19 Rant or Rave: Embracing Change and Utilizing Tools
52:25 Connecting and Following Elizabeth Allen's Work

Resources Mentioned In Show

• Elizabeth on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabeth-allen-b7460343/
• Curb Cut - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3_Rb86wiH4
• Science Matters In America - https://sciencematters.tv/
• Google Bard - https://bard.google.com/
• AI and Forest Recovery - https://environmentamerica.org/updates/ais-newest-frontier-tracking-forest-recovery/ and this talk is interesting https://www.fs.usda.gov/inside-fs/delivering-mission/apply/future-ai-natural-resource-management-self-learning-forest
• Dysgraphia - https://dyslexiaida.org/understanding-dysgraphia/
• Engineering For Kids - https://www.engineeringforkids.com/
• Endeavor Program - https://www.us-satellite.net/endeavor/
• Techie Times - https://polytechnic.purdue.edu/summer-diversity-camps/techie-time-virtual-summer-camp?fbclid=IwAR0JrP8sTC9xPqUF7WyR6vf114T9tRyt3SWZhMGiNVaEZLVAjWty8-Ag-rU

Stories are a powerful way to make sense of the world and navigate chaos.
Self-reflection is essential for personal and professional growth.
Taking action and building habits are key to achieving goals.
Overcoming perfectionism and embracing imperfection is crucial for progress.
Martyrdom and neglecting self-care can hinder personal and professional success.
Rethinking assessment in education can lead to more meaningful and effective learning experiences.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Season Overview
01:30 The Power of Stories
03:13 Natalie Vardabasso's Background and Work
04:21 The Process of Writing a Book
05:31 The Impact of AI on Education
06:14 Finding Purpose and Making Choices
08:36 The Importance of Self-Reflection
10:01 Taking Action and Building Habits
13:18 The Need for Inner Work
17:56 The Dangers of Martyrdom
19:41 The Power of Emotions and Self-Care
21:02 Overcoming Perfectionism and Taking Action
23:11 The Law of 1% Increases
29:10 Dipping Your Toes into Rethinking Assessment
30:56 Naming and Declaring Goals
31:26 Narrative Assessment and Backpack of Success Skills
32:09 The Heart of Leadership
33:26 Overcoming Resistance to Change
35:38 The Power of Educators Coming Together
37:44 Assessment as a Process
39:53 Assessment and AI
44:17 The Importance of Planning and Reflection in Assessment
46:03 Defining Goals and Motivating Students
48:05 Rave: The TV Series 'The Bear'

Items Mentioned In Show

• https://twitter.com/natabasso
• https://twitter.com/educrushpod
• https://www.instagram.com/natabasso/
• https://www.empowermentecosystem.com/summit 
• The Bear: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14452776/
• Assessment is a process 🔄, not just a packet. 📄
• https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7149417048421376001/
• Educrush Episode 106 - https://educrushpod.libsyn.com/106-let-go-of-limiting-bs-and-transform-your-life
  • "Our focus on external change is just a reflection of the deeper changes we know we are avoiding in ourselves"

Here is his bio so you can learn more about him

I am currently Professor of English at Berkeley College. I have been working in higher education for about 10 years and--before coming to Berkeley--have held positions at Rutgers University, Raritan Valley Community College, and Brookdale Community College.

As a professor I teach onsite and online courses on a variety of topics--including composition, literature, film, and the humanities more broadly. I am also a proud member of the Honors Program faculty at Berkeley. In 2020, I received my college's award for Excellence in Teaching.

My research focuses primarily on literature, pedagogy, and grammar. I have published in a wide variety of journals, including (but not limited to) "Literary Imagination," "Pedagogy," "Dialogue," and "eCampus News." I have also written chapters for the books "Allegory Studies: Contemporary Perspectives" (forthcoming from Routledge), "Adapting the 18th Century" (University of Rochester Press, 2020) and "Reflections on Academic Lives" (Palgrave Macmillan, 2017). My research has been supported by fellowships and grants from Berkeley College, Rutgers University, Harvard University, and Cornell University.

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Challenges & Goals

• Jason's main challenge is adapting traditional teaching methods to incorporate emerging technologies like AI. His goal is fostering an environment conducive for experimentation and innovative learning practices.
• How do we face the challenge of reducing low-level managerial tasks without compromising foundational knowledge? Perhaps a goal is to use AI to automate certain tasks, freeing up time for more enriching activities.

Surprising Takeaways

• Jason advocates for educators being open about trying new things, even if they are not fully formed ideas yet.
• Emphasizing the importance of restorative breaks where individuals engage in mindless yet mentally refreshing activities.
• Jason would never automate his social presence because he learns from talking and writing.
• Giving students the ability to choose, not just whether they're using AI, but how they're using it and how it's actually being worked into their process.

Emerging Patterns

• Both of us are grapple with shifting from traditional learning methods towards technology-enhanced ones.
• There's a common theme among educators that while automation can be beneficial, it should not replace all human elements in education or daily routines.

Key Moments

Quotes from Jason:

• I think one of the productive things that can come out of this level of disruption is a culture of experimentation.

We ask our students to experiment all the time. Like that's that, especially in the K to 12 certainly. And higher ed too that we want our students, you know, we give them something new. We do this all the time. I don't even think about it. We say here's something new to read, something new to watch, something new to process and engage with it. Just experiment, test it out whether it's in, you know, traditional assessment or nontraditional assessment. And so in many ways, we need to just practice that. We need to do that, right? We have this new stuff. So experiment play with it, iterate, see what works And then you kind of go from there. And I think that we all have this desire um from the instructor side for perfection. We want, we think that and I think this is an error. We think that the best way to serve our students is to give them a fully realized polished product, right? Which is the course. But I think the exact opposite is true. I think something changes when you tell students that I'm trying something new, I'm gonna try a different form of assessment and I want your feedback about how it worked. I think that fundamentally changes the feel of the virtual room or actual physical room. So I think that the culture of experimentation is something we need to really, really conserve and prize because that's, that's what we want our students to do. You want them to experiment and play?

• ....sometimes the key to making an assignment A I proof is to create a better assignment.
• So normally with the essay form, I would spend the first hour looking, not even reading anything, not even like doing like what we all do and what, what we like, you know, giving feedback and engaging with ideas. But going through the Turnitin reports, scanning them, finding information. I would lose an hour to two hours. And then sending emails to students that it came up a 70% on Turnitin. So I'm not doing that anymore. I no longer have that task. So the, the amount of time that I put to create the assignment I save later on at least a little bit.
• It's not that you're you're saving time but repurposing time and how much better time spent for you and for the students to be engaged in reading their thinking and having conversations about their thinking. That's such a more enriching learning opportunity for everybody involved, the educator and the students versus what we're doing now.
• What assessment can I create today that I continue to teach? One year, five years, 10 years down the road?  I think that we have to be willing as a part of our job to change how we're assessing things if something does need to change about them.

RESOURCES

• Jason on LinkedIn where he shares and I do my learning from him!
• Reference to his assignment he made AI proof(it includes movie Inception!)

Welcome to a fresh and exciting new experiment in my podcast journey I am calling 'Chaos Sparks'. In these shorter format episodes, I am switching gears from my usual structure where I bring in incredible thought provokers and instead will bring you short, solo segments where I explore the chaotic ideas that swirl in my head that I am challenging myself to bring out into the world more. All of these nerdy, intriguing ideas and reflections, I plan to share in episdoes that are under 10 minutes. If ideas blossom into bigger conversations, then perhaps that will drive new guests to expand on the ideas for the regular episodes I have created for a long time.

'Chaos Sparks' are designed to be quick bursts of inspiration and insight, perfect for those moments when you need a little food for thought but are pressed for time. And selfishly to help me offload my thinking from reading books, articles, communities, etc. These episodes are my personal take on various topics, ranging from breakthroughs in innovation and education to reflections on influential books, like Brant Menswar's 'Black Sheep'(this first experimental episode), and spontaneous nerd blasts about comics, video games, health, and whatever else I am inspired by my everyday experiences.

'Chaos Sparks' are designed for me to offer concise(yeah right, but a goal of mine), thought-provoking(I can do this :)) content that extends your curiosity and encourages you to think differently by you know......Living On The Edge Of Chaos(could not resist). Whether you're on a quick coffee break, a brief commute, or just seeking a moment of intellectual stimulation, these episodes are crafted to fit seamlessly into your busy schedule.

So, here is the first 'Chaos Sparks' episodes – a few little nuggets of chaos to enlighten, challenge, and energize your day based on this book I just read, Black Sheep by Brant Menswar

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Overview:

In this episode, I explore what it means to be different. "Black Sheep" challenges the long-held notion that standing out is a flaw. Instead, it embraces the idea that our uniqueness is our greatest strength. This book is more than just a read; it's a guide to embracing our true selves. It has me scratching my head about how to proceed with my own thinking of self....in a good way.

I briefly discuss the power of reflection, learning from our past to set the stage for our future. Menswar's work emphasizes the importance of understanding our core values – the 'what' over the 'why.' These values are the foundation of our authentic selves and guide every decision and action we take.

The journey through "Black Sheep" is a call to intentional living. It's about choosing our purpose based on what we value most, not just stumbling upon it. By embracing vulnerability and honesty with ourselves, we unlock the essence of who we truly are.

I hope this serves as a reminder for myself and you that real change requires effort. It's about committing to growth and aligning our actions with our deepest values. This episode encourages us to not just be different, but to be authentically and unapologetically ourselves.

Join me in this journey of self-discovery and empowerment. Let's embrace our inner black sheep, live authentically, and inspire change in ourselves and those around us.

And let me know what you think. Have you read the book? What questions do you have? Let me know on all the socials.

• Challenges such as the rapid evolution of AI and its implications for education, concerns about AI replacing human roles, privacy issues, and ethical considerations.
• The primary goals identified include helping educators keep pace with these changes, understand their implications, and adapt teaching practices accordingly. There's also a shared goal to make sense of these developments collectively due to their rapid evolution.

SURPRISING TAKEAWAYS

• Stella initially expressed skepticism towards generative AI imagery creation programs due to their limitations in capturing human creativity but later acknowledged the potential utility for beginners or those experiencing creative blocks to help work through Blank Canvas Syndrome.
• Despite initial fears around AI replacing educators' roles, we believe that educators will be needed more than ever before because critical thinking skills are necessary for effective interaction with AI tools.

EMERGING PATTERNS

A need for resources, templates, guidelines, policies, and frameworks to aid educators in understanding and implementing AI within their teaching practices.

An emerging interest in cross-pollinating knowledge across different sectors to gain diverse perspectives.

Themes surrounding trust in technology versus humans, the impact of AI on society at large, and being critical towards hyped-up promises made by AI vendors.

KEY MOMENTS

1. "I think perhaps it might even highlight that our creativity is really unique."
2. "AI can only regurgitate what's already existing."
3. "Yes, it's great usage for training in art school… but at the end of the day, I think perhaps it might even highlight that our creativity is really unique."
4. "We will need to start pushing the limits because otherwise generate generative A I is only gonna keep feeding you the same thing."
5. "It's not incorporating life experiences; it's not incorporating emotions."
6. "Is AI shaping the way we learn and teach or are we as educators actively using our skills and brains to shape AI?

RESOURCES

• Paradox Learning
• AI Literacy Competency Framework for Educators and other resources
• Stella Lee on LinkedIn
• Top 10 Skills of 2023
• SAMR
• SAMR AI
• Dr. Nick Jackson SAMR+AI

Perception is everything.

• Given our last 10 years with ipads and chromebooks, if people had used ipads, the way they should have been used AI would be non issue  in terms of plagiarism, student work and all these other kinds of things. And so it's an issue for us today because we have always latched on to these short term solutions that bring us even more long term problems.
• It's really also important to question these large organizations. These really large big organizations that we look to.... Where have you been in the last 20 years? Where is that check in? Why have things not evolved and why are people so flustered? Where is the advocacy?Who's gonna take the step back and ask what is the missing piece here? Because if you just blindly follow these organizations, you will get what you've got in the last 10 years.

Surprising Takeaways

And I always tell people it doesn't matter whether somebody agrees or disagrees. If you don't have alignment, you have a problem, you're not gonna be able to advance your vision, your solution or anything, regardless of what the scenario is or how excited you may be.

• We don't make the time for [it] and that is a choice that is an active choice we make, whether you realize it or not, where we choose to dedicate our time and dedicate our focus. Those are the seeds we're choosing to plant. What you do is going to get you the outcomes that you get.
• Prompt the human before you prompt the AI

Emerging Patterns

Importance of personal branding in opening doors for opportunities 

Maintaining a growth mindset towards taking risks 

Emphasis on human connection and values in all aspects of life - from personal relationships to professional settings 

Importance of questioning large organizations 

Key Moments

1) "I think it's an 80% mindset game…that idea that anything is possible…you truly have to believe that that's actually the case for you if you are going to trust yourself."

2) "Being able to really understand your non negotiables…what are the things I just will not tolerate?"

3) "One of my biggest reasons I advocate for having a personal brand…is it's very difficult to have those choices if the only people who know you are the people in your building."

RESOURCES

• LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/sabba-quidwai/
• Design Schools - https://designingschools.org/
• Her documentary - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JHKPjDSTF8
• Session Lab - https://www.sessionlab.com/
• Spark Type - https://sparketype.com/sparketest/
• Black Sheep by Brant Menswar - https://www.brantmenswar.com/valuesassessment

We discussed several challenges including overcoming fears about AI, navigating rapid technological changes, addressing ethical implications of AI in education, information overload, and teacher burnout. Our goals revolve around helping educators navigate these issues and preparing them for a future where AI plays a significant role in education.

Surprising Takeaways

Despite thework with AI, Priten emphasized that fundamental principles of teaching do not have to change due to new technology. We suggested that repetitive tasks could play a role in preventing burnout among teachers. Finally, we encouraged individuals not to feel overwhelmed by information overload but engage in dialogue as part of their learning journey.

Emerging Patterns

Focus on long-term solutions rather than short-term fixes when integrating AI into education

Emphasis on maintaining core educational values while adapting teaching methods to suit new technologies

Importance of accessibility and integration of AI technologies into everyday life

Active engagement in learning processes and social interactions when grappling with complex subjects like AI

Collective willingness to learn playing a significant role in understanding intricate topics

Key Moments

"We want our students to flourish in the external world and no one across the country who is a teacher will disagree about that."

"There's gonna be three buckets of changes that are going to happen because of A I…existing philosophical norms and ethics…what will society look like…the philosophy of building these systems."

"I think there's so many exciting things…there's great potential for it [AI] to increase how we interact with other folks."

"If our solution to teacher burnout right now is let's free up teacher time by allowing them to use this [AI]…then I think we're going to be in the back of the same cycle."

"I think there's like a good three-step process maybe of like reading as much as you possibly can about it… And then spend some time writing about it… And then there's the talk and teaching part."

RESOURCES

• Book: AI and the Future of Education: Teaching in the Age of Artificial Intelligence https://amzn.to/3FJbORD
• PD website: https://pedagog.ai/
• Priten Shah website: https://pritenshah.com/
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pritenhshah/
• Pedagogy Cloud Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pedagogycloud
• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pedagogycloud
• Hearing Aid Reference: https://scrippsnews.com/stories/with-ai-future-of-hearing-aids-might-include-language-translation/

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• Apple Podcast – Find this episode and all the previous episodes on Apple Podcast
• Spotify – Find this episode and previous episodes of the show on Spotify!
• YouTube –  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjfxftzCeTU&feature=youtu.be

CHALLENGES & GOALS

• Dwayne's main challenge revolves around bridging the gap between education and innovation. His goal is to create opportunities for his son, peers, and their age group.
• We discuss how technology has become a commodity that no longer amazes us due to its ubiquity. The focus should be on what we aim to accomplish with it.
• Conversation emphasizes the importance of leveraging open innovation processes to build a system that can effectively utilize AI for educational purposes.

SURPRISING TAKEAWAYS

• Despite being recognized as an expert in certain fields, Dwayne feels uncomfortable with the term, emphasizing that he's just scratching the surface of knowledge.
• Highlighting the concept of cognitive surplus created by technological advancements which provides an opportunity for individuals to direct their attention towards productive activities if they choose so.
• Believes in revisiting past teaching methods that couldn't be scaled due to technological limitations at the time.

EMERGING PATTERNS

• Lifelong learning and curiosity
• Viewing technology as a tool for achieving specific goals rather than an end in itself
• Emphasis on reflection and adaptation
• Leveraging current technologies to transform teaching methods
• Importance of purpose-driven initiatives augmented by technology

KEY MOMENTS

"I'm just somebody that's terribly curious about the future of education and its connection point to the future of economic life."

"I realized that if you wanted to create a really unique perspective, you have to really look at the intersection or perpendicular points of ideas."

"Technology gets really good when we forget that it's technology and it just feels like regular life."

RESOURCES

• LinkedIn Profile
• His website

An innovative and logical-minded AI and Ethics Specialist with an extensive background in creating ethical AI policies, developing strategies and processes to overcome challenges, and providing practical guidance in fast-paced, high-growth companies from start-ups to Fortune 500. Strategic leader with a solid business background and high cultural, ethical, and emotional intelligence. Excels at providing insight, guidance, collaborating across multiple verticals, and creating an inclusive workplace for all employees. I also serve as an advisor, council member, and task force leader for various organizations and initiatives in the AI and ethics space and as a presenter, panelist, and keynote speaker on ethics and technology topics.

Advisory Roles:
• Trustmark Advisory Board - Open Voice Network
• Tech-Ethics Advisor- Trauma Informed Network Advisory Board
• Ethics Council - Meta-Brain Labs
• Ethical Use Task Force - Open Voice Network
• Inclusion Plan Panelist - NASA

Presenter, Speaker, Panelist, Keynote, and Conference Chair | Author | Founder - NextGen Ethics | Policy Manager and Strategist | Transforming AI, Tech, and Organizations for a Better World | Digital Humanitarian

lmillerethicist@gmail.com | lmiller-ethicist.com

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ROSE 🌹

Laura Miller's expertise in applied ethics provided valuable insights into the integration of ethical practices in AI.

Emphasis on making well-intentioned statements actionable was appreciated.

Recognition of people's lived experiences and responding with empathy was highlighted as crucial.

Leadership in ethics was discussed, emphasizing that leaders should demonstrate ethical behavior through actions.

How might we:

Further integrate actionable ethical statements into our product development process?

Enhance our leadership training to include a stronger focus on demonstrating ethical behavior?

Provide more practical examples or case studies during such discussions?

Address potential challenges when integrating ethics into technology and business?

Leverage this trend towards greater integration of ethics into our own operations?

Encourage employees to adopt these suggested lifestyle habits to foster a culture of everyday ethics?

CHALLENGES & GOALS

• The primary challenge discussed was making ethics tangible and actionable across different sectors, particularly within AI.
• The goal is to promote ethical innovation within businesses and how they can implement AI ethically.

SURPRISING TAKEAWAYS

• Laura views everyone as capable of doing ethics, regardless of their role or profession.
• Laura emphasizes the need for balance between business interests and ethical considerations.

EMERGING PATTERNS

• Importance of action in ethics - it's not enough to simply talk about ethics; one must actively engage in ethical behavior.
• Need for metrics in demonstrating ethical actions, similar to how achievements are measured in other fields.
• Call for greater dialogue around ethics and a push towards making more deliberate and considered choices.

KEY MOMENTS

Quotes from Laura Miller:

1. ....anyone can empower someone else. Anyone can disempower someone else. The thing is whether or not you're gonna be a catalyst for change in what's actually being done.
2. ....there are tangible things that we can do to back up those kinds of overarching statements, most people or many will stop at the statement and not take it any further. It sounds very much like a mission or a vision, but without action, you can't bring it into fruition. So it stays a mission and vision that stay these lofty ideals, largely unattainable because there's no method to the madness of how to get there.
3. ....people have learned that good intentions will only take you so far
4. ....my question to you back is so what you doing? Because it always comes back to that we're doing. What are you doing? You know, what does that actually look like? What things have you done?
5. We hired the right percentage of people doesn't matter if what you've actually done is given them a hollow role with no authority and no budget and no capability to do something to you doing should be able to spur the doing of someone else. In other words, you should be giving them the capabilities to do things too.
6. Anyone can empower someone else. Anyone can disempower someone else. The thing is whether or not you're gonna be a catalyst for change in what's actually being done.
7. One of the greatest problems that we have in our world is that we lost track of what the people need, how they should be treated and what we really need from our world, from our society, from the businesses we do, business with and are in a relationship with, from our employment.
8. And my concern was when we're making decisions for groups or for large numbers of people or in this instance, when we talk about who the library can influence, we're talking about a group of people. And when we're making a decision like that, both people, both sides, multiple sides, there shouldn't just be two, multiple sides serve to be heard so that we can find out when we're making decisions for groups where that balance point is......But it(AI) shortcut all that reflection and even that, how do we find that balance point between competing ideas and none of that happened and said the books were gone. So my concern about that was do we want some of those decisions to be made that quickly?

RESOURCES

• Laura Miller, MA Ethics profile on LinkedIn
• Shadowing AI
• Applied Ethical AI Innovation Matrix
• Broken Mirror Theory

• Trying to generate diverse images using AI tools due to their inherent bias. Her goal is to address these biases within AI systems and society at large.
• Another challenge revolves around her desire to solve problems using technology. Her goal is to leverage her coding skills and AI to address these issues.

Surprising Takeaways

• Lori views biases not as obstacles but as opportunities for learning and growth.
• Lori believes that creativity exists within a spectrum influenced by structure and serendipity, which aligns with how generative AI systems operate.

Emerging Patterns

• The importance of ethical considerations in AI usage
• The potential of AI as a tool for social change
• The need for continuous learning and adaptation in this rapidly evolving field
• Focus on self-education and problem-solving through technology
• Emphasis on human touch in customer service and education sectors

Key Moments

1. "I teach A I with a human touch."
2. "AI is a mirror onto human bias."
3. "We need to be able to see it [bias] in order to change it."
4. "I am a self learner… I love to start with a problem that I want to solve…"
5. "How do we use AI to help us do the things that it would do best…and then they could do the human touch thing?"
6. "Look at all of your work…what are the top three things that you love doing most? Because those are the things that even if you can do them with AI, you shouldn't."

Resources

• Lori on LinkedIn
• Her newsletter on LinkedIn
• Her website and book
• AI and Copyright: Permission or Forgiveness

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Challenges & Goals

We discuss the challenges faced by teachers, such as burnout and workload increase without compensation. Brittany aims to make teaching sustainable by automating mundane tasks using AI, thereby freeing up time for more meaningful interactions with students.

Brittany addresses the challenge of high teacher attrition rates due to burnout. Her goal is to help teachers recover from and prevent burnout using automation systems and sustainable strategies. She also aims to change the education system by prioritizing teacher well-being.

Surprising Takeaways

A surprising takeaway was Brittany's belief in aligning work-life rather than balancing it. She argues that personal life cannot be separated from professional life; instead, they should be aligned according to our values.

It was surprising to learn that up to 40% of tasks done by teachers can be automated completely. Also noteworthy was the idea that AI could enhance creativity rather than stifle it.

Emerging Patterns

• Importance of self-awareness in combating burnout.
• Aligning work-life according to individual values.
• Prioritizing teacher well-being for effective education system reform.
• Potential of AI in reducing teacher burnout and enhancing productivity.
• Shift from rote learning towards fostering emotional intelligence, creativity, problem-solving skills, and community building among students.

Key Moments

1. "I have a huge passion for helping teachers recover from and prevent burnout using automation systems and really just sustainable strategies."
2. "We can't focus on the students without first focusing on the teacher."
3. "I don't like the term work-life balance…it's not an equal thing…it's something that is in alignment with what you want."

In conclusion, this conversation underscores the importance of teacher well-being in improving the education system. Through self-awareness, work-life alignment, and sustainable strategies, Brittany Blackwell demonstrates how individual change can create broader impacts within an organization or system.

Resources

• LinkedIn
• Teaching Mind Body and Soul Website
• Teaching Mind Body and Soul Links
• Resilient Teacher Podcast

Amanda is the Co-Founder and CEO of AI for Education. A former high school biology teacher and EdTech executive with over 20 years of experience in the education sector, she has a deep understanding of the challenges and opportunities that AI can offer. She is a frequent consultant, speaker, and writer on the topic of AI in education, leading workshops and professional learning across both K12 and Higher Ed. Amanda is committed to helping schools and teachers maximize their potential through the ethical and equitable adoption of AI.

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Challenges & Goals

The main challenge discussed across all conversations was the complexity of adopting new technologies like AI into educational settings. This includes understanding how to use these tools effectively, responsibly, and without causing cognitive offload or dependence on technology. The goal is to develop a curriculum that not only educates students about AI but also encourages them to think critically about its uses and limitations.

Surprising Takeaways

It is surprising to learn that many believe prompt engineering—a key skill currently needed to interact with generative AI—will become unnecessary within 16-18 months due to advancements in technology interfaces. Another unexpected insight was the idea that generative AI could bring the marginal cost of creating to zero, democratizing access to computing.

Emerging Patterns

• The transformative potential of AI in education if used correctly.
• The need for curiosity, critical thinking skills when integrating these new technologies into teaching practices.
• Ethical considerations when implementing AI in education.
• Concerns about potential job losses due to automation and the impact on marginalized communities.
• The rapid proliferation of AI tools in education without a clear understanding of their foundational workings, potential biases, or ethical implications.

Key Moments

1) "This is one of those times where it's very hard to figure out what the question is to ask"

2) "This is power like you can actually create your own chatbot…you do not have to have a computer science degree."

3) "If you can teach us that vaping is bad for us, why can't you teach us that ChatGPT can be bad for us too."

4) "The majority of those, those 80% of those jobs…are going to be degraded or downgraded."

5) "…anyone that tells you that they have a tool that has no hallucinations and no bias and works all the time is not telling you the truth."

Resources

• AI for Education
• AI for Education Prompt Library
• AI for Education Lesson Plans
• Amanda on LinkedIn
• 182 - Justin Germishuys 

Justin's main challenge is navigating the complex intersections of psychology, philosophy, technology, and education to create an effective model for integrating AI into human cognition. His goal is to develop a new paradigm that views humans as cyborgs in the Andy Clark sense - beings whose minds naturally extend into their environment through tools and technologies.

Surprising Takeaways

One surprising takeaway from this conversation was the concept of "cyborg skills," which are not only about how humans can extend themselves with technology but also about what new cognitive processes become possible when we think about ourselves as cyborgs.

Risk vs Reward

The risks discussed include fears related to cheating and instructional practice changes when integrating AI into education. There's also mention of societal harm due to unanticipated consequences, such as those seen with social media. On the other hand, rewards include overcoming cognitive biases, enhancing productivity, creativity, decision-making processes, identifying bias or poor argumentation in texts using AI, detecting diseases like cancer more accurately than humans.

Emerging Patterns

• Need for a paradigm shift in how we view our minds and their relationship with technology.
• Emphasis on viewing AI not just as a tool for productivity but as a means to enhance human capabilities.
• The idea of "cyborg skills" as an essential part of future education.

Key Moments

• "Our brains just naturally through the way that we form mental models… incorporate tools and as we use them fluently, they become an extension of our minds."
• "If we're not providing [students] with what I've started calling cyborg skills… then we're doing them a disservice."
• "[AI] will largely be populated by cyborgs in the Andy Clark sense of the word."
• "Humans need AI tools to enhance their performance beyond natural capabilities."
• "AI can help overcome cognitive biases by providing more objective analysis and reasoning in complex situations."
• "Our value lies not just in critical thinking and creativity but also in our unique experiences and imaginations."

RESOURCES

• Justin on LinkedIn
• Justin website https://germinotion.com/
• Andy Clark Book Publications
• The Design of Everyday Things: Revised and Expanded Edition 

The discussion revolves around the ethical implications of integrating AI into education. Concerns include data privacy, misinformation, digital literacy among students, potential negative impacts on mental health, and the need for educators to understand these technologies better. The goal is to navigate these challenges while maximizing the benefits of AI in enhancing learning experiences.

TAKEAWAYS

Even highly educated individuals can mistake AI-generated content for real content. Another point was that some AI tools are unable to code imperfections into their generated images, contributing to unrealistic beauty standards.

EMERGING PATTERNS

• Need for transparency and open conversations about the use of AI in education.
• Concern about how data is used by AI tools and companies.
• Ethical considerations when using AI tools in education.
• Potential psychological impacts on students due to misuse of technology.
• Unequal access among students to technology.

KEY MOMENTS

1) "I think there's valid arguments across the board… I think that the creators have valid arguments."

2) "We don't send kids off in the playground without teaching them about safety… But with social media, we gave them this playground and we just kind of ignored it."

3) "Nobody is an expert in any of this…even the people building them are like, well, that's cool."

4) "We should have some kind of shared value around assessment…we have to rethink the how not the why."

5)  "Are we actually doing what's best for kids or do we need to start putting more focus on where's the engagement, inquiry and strategies?

RESOURCES

• Mary Beth Hertz Website
• Mary Beth Hertz on LinkedIn
• Twitter/X
• Her books on Amazon
• MBH Canva Resource Document referenced in podcast
• Vint Cerf

Liam's challenge is to enhance engagement and discovery in education through innovative methods like LEGO Serious Play. His goal is to make learning more accessible and engaging by leveraging play and creativity. The educator aims to constantly innovate their teaching methods, inspire creative thinking, develop a growth mindset among students, and integrate design thinking into the curriculum.

Takeaways

• The transformative potential of LEGO Serious Play as a tool for effective communication. Its versatility across different subjects within the educational context.
• There was agreement on the importance of creating an environment where students feel their voice matters.
• Both speakers advocated for integrating playful methods like LEGO Serious Play into curriculum planning.

Emerging Patterns

• Importance of active participation
• Equitable sharing of ideas
• Co-construction of knowledge in a learning environment
• Emphasis on 'learning by doing'
• Iterative learning
• Openness to new ideas

Key Moments

1) "I think LSP…is a tool to support effective communication."

2) "Everyone has to build a response and everyone has to share their model story."

3) "One of the nice things about using LEGO bricks is that you strip that back to a baser level of communication."

New Ideas

• Exploration of other tools or methodologies beyond LEGO Serious Play for design thinking in education.
• Inclusion of more diverse voices – perhaps educators from different levels (primary, secondary), disciplines or cultural backgrounds – for a broader range of insights.
• Creation of resources providing concrete examples for educators who want to start using LSP but don't know where or how to begin(check out the book below!)

Resources

• BUILDING BETTER LEARNING: USING THE LEGO® SERIOUS PLAY® METHOD IN EDUCATION https://amzn.to/3EfiyG3
• LinkedIn Profile
• LEGO Serious Work

Nisha Talagala is the CEO and founder of AIClub.World (https://corp.aiclub.world) which brings AI Literacy to  K-12 students, professionals, and other individuals worldwide. Nisha has significant experience in introducing technologies like Artificial Intelligence to new learners from students to professionals.  Previously, Nisha co-founded ParallelM which pioneered the MLOps practice of managing Machine Learning in production for enterprises - acquired by DataRobot. Nisha is a recognized leader in the operational machine learning space, having also driven the USENIX Operational ML Conference, the first industry/academic conference on production AI/ML. Nisha was previously a Fellow at SanDisk and Fellow/Lead Architect at Fusion-io, NVM Software Lead, and Intel and CTO of Gear6. Nisha has more than 20 years of expertise in enterprise software development, distributed systems, technical strategy, and product leadership. Nisha earned her Ph.D. at UC Berkeley in Computer Science, holds 75 patents, over 25 refereed research publications, is a frequent speaker at industry and academic events, and is a contributing writer to Forbes and other publications. 

• AIClub.World: https://corp.aiclub.world
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nisha-talagala-6a6b20/

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Challenges & Goals

The challenge of making everyone AI literate due to its increasing prevalence in everyday life. The goal of making AI more accessible to students and educators alike, fostering interest in AI among young people, and encouraging diverse voices in the field.

Surprising Takeaways A surprising takeaway from the discussions is that within a short period, students can build their first AI model without any coding involved. Another unexpected insight is that despite initial fears or apprehensions about teaching AI, it's possible for educators to start small and gradually build up their knowledge base.

Emerging Patterns

Importance of demystifying AI for both teachers and students

Emphasis on hands-on learning and problem-solving

Use of real-world applications of AI to engage student interest

Encouragement of diversity within the field

Recognition of everyone’s role in shaping how technology evolves

Key Moments

"We believed that we will reach a point which we are currently at where, you know, everybody…is going to need to become A I literate." 

"All students build their first A I in their first class… they've talked to it…" 

"I think it is scary and it is a bit overwhelming… I would encourage people to jump in with something small." 

"[AI] is important for people personally. It's important as teachers… And also important for humanity that every human says something because someone's gonna make these decisions."

Surprising Takeaways While not a surprise per so, but the idea on how many school districts lack clear policies on AI use.

Emerging Patterns

• The need for education leaders to understand disruptive technologies like AI.
• The importance of incorporating these technologies into their systems.
• A shift in assessment methods focusing more on learning processes rather than end products.
• The necessity for educators to adapt quickly to technological advancements like AI.
• The continued importance of human connection despite technological advances.

Key Moments

1. "My main focus lately has been on generative artificial intelligence…the word generative means that the AI is generating content."
2. "I think most importantly for me is that they left knowing we support them. Our position is that we support them using it."
3. "If you assess a learning process, that's what you should be assessing. Not the end product…"
4. "It goes back to the old age-old question… What is the purpose of education?"

Challenges & Goals Keep up with staying updated with new tools and technologies while ensuring alignment with educational goals. Also, how AI can enhance teaching without compromising data privacy or security.

Resources and Further Learning

• www.AlanaWinnick.com
• www.GenerativeAge.com
• Book: The Generative Age: Artificial Intelligence and the Future of Education

My favorite moments

In this episode John shares insights on how design thinking can help leaders create positive change within their organizations and foster a sense of belonging among staff and students. Additionally, the integration of AI tools like ChatGPT into education and potential ethical concerns are discussed.

Key Points

Design thinking promotes empathy work and need-finding among leaders.

Human-centered design can contribute significantly to improving student experiences during lectures.

Design thinking can be applied not only in classrooms but also in leadership programs.

Schools may benefit from having two types of leaders: those who excel at management tasks and those who are more visionary or inspirational.

AI tools like ChatGPT can enhance learning experiences but also pose challenges in maintaining academic integrity and trust between students and teachers.

Gaps

Many educational leadership programs do not provide enough tools for leaders to effectively involve their community and tap into collective wisdom.

Here are some suggestions and resources that may be helpful for your next lecture:

Introduce practical examples or case studies where design thinking has been successfully implemented in educational settings.

Provide resources on how to integrate AI tools ethically into education without compromising academic integrity.

Student Feedback and Questions

"How can we ensure that AI tools like ChatGPT don't lead to cheating or plagiarism?"

Suggestion: Focus on alternative assessment methods that cannot be easily manipulated by AI tools.

Suggestion: Use AI to improve critical thinking skills instead of relying solely on content generation.

Critical Takeaways:

Design thinking can help leaders leverage the wisdom of their community.

Leaders who practice design thinking develop open-mindedness, radical collaboration, and a focus on showing rather than telling.

Prototyping can serve as both a question and a statement, revealing unmet needs that can lead to improvements.

Students are using ChatGPT more than educators realize.

Large language models can be programmed in plain English to teach various skills.

Emerging Patterns:

The importance of empathy in leadership

The need for diverse perspectives in decision-making processes

Balancing management skills with inspirational leadership

Ethical concerns about data usage by large language models

Redefining academic integrity in the age of AI

Key Moments:

"We tend to have them go out and become enamored with the idea that they've got to figure everything out on their own."

"The smartest person in the room is the room."

"If you're human-centered, you're keeping the people that are most affected by what you do as close to you as possible as partners in your work."

"I think if leaders can stay genuinely curious, get out of their own way, stop thinking that they've got to know what to do and be very curious throughout."

"It's really interesting what happens when you start to say, I'm gonna open up my ears and eyes and let me hear what people need and want."

"I'm a student. You have no idea how much we're using ChatGPT."

"I taught the robot to teach the humans to be human-centered."

"This is all on them (teachers), all of it is on them."

"You've got to up your game and really teach, you've got to teach critical thinking, you got to teach dialogue."

"We haven't thought enough about how ChatGPT and large language models are computer programs that can be programmed in plain English to teach us stuff."

RESOURCES & FURTHER LEARNING:

• Book: Design Thinking in Schools: A Leaders’ Guide to Collaborating for Improvement
• dLab: http://dLab.uky.edu
• Podcast: Online Learning in the Second Half
• John on LinkedIn
• Opinion | I'm a Student. You Have No Idea How Much We're Using ChatGPT.

FAVORITE MOMENTS FROM THE CONVERSATION:

Mia's main challenges include helping people move from learning to application, encouraging participants to envision small steps towards their goals, developing a positive emotional attachment to the process, and facilitating change in resistant individuals or groups. She also focuses on ensuring clear communication, respecting people's time, being realistic about expectations, and overcoming initial resistance when introducing new methods like LEGO Serious Play.

Critical Takeaways:

The hardest part of learning is applying insights to action.

Connecting learning objectives with personal values can increase engagement.

Setting realistic expectations for the outcomes of workshops or interventions is crucial.

Doubt about the method is often doubt about oneself; adults may feel hesitant to admit they don't know something or fear looking silly.

Judging even positively can have unintended negative consequences by setting a new standard for others to compare themselves against.

Emerging Patterns:

The importance of mindset shifts in achieving personal and professional growth.

The need for personalized approaches when facilitating change.

Balancing information gathering with practical application.

Creating safe spaces for learning without judgment.

Recognizing that true learning requires putting new information into practice.

Key Moments:

"A lot of my transformation was about changing my mindset, seeing myself in a different way."

"Taking in information is not the same as learning."

"What happens when they leave that safe space and go out into the world and have to now create a step and action?"

"So I think those two things, you know, what's the one step they're gonna practice and what is the benefit going to be for them in terms of the emotional benefit."

"I can't undo in four hours something that has taken root over 15 years."

"People appreciate the real, not always the overpromise."

"Individuals learn and grow as a result of their experiences and interactions with the world."

"The learning process is incomplete until we've actually done something."

"Doubt about the method is often doubt about themselves."

"We need to have the one step that is just going to start inching us closer."

RESOURCES & FURTHER LEARNING:

• www.cognascent.co
• Mia at mia@cognascent.co
• Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/miaeng
• LEGO Serious Play

FAVORITE MOMENTS FROM THE CONVERSATION:

I love this book and you should check it out here:

Chat(GPT): Navigating the Impact of Generative AI Technologies on Educational Theory and Practice: Educators Discuss ChatGPT and other Artificial Intelligence Tools https://amzn.to/3IU7lxr

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Challenges & Goals:

The conversation focused on understanding the impact of AI technologies like ChatGPT on education, encouraging proper debates that promote learning rather than just defending one's stance, and involving everyone in conversations about AI technology to ensure its ethical use. Additionally, integrating AI tools into the educational process without compromising academic integrity and adapting to the rapidly changing technology landscape in education were discussed.

Big Takeaways:

- AI technologies like ChatGPT can generate speeches and rebuttals for debates, potentially changing how students prepare for them.

- There is a significant knowledge gap among educators regarding AI technologies, leading to misunderstandings about their capabilities and limitations.

- Students are already using AI tools for various purposes, sometimes even without their teachers' knowledge or approval.

- The concept of originality is becoming increasingly complex as AI-generated content becomes more sophisticated and indistinguishable from human-written work.

Emerging Patterns:

- The increasing influence of AI technologies on various aspects of education, from research to writing assignments.

- A shift towards synthesis rather than originality as a key skill for students.

- The need for educators to adapt their teaching methods to incorporate AI tools effectively.

- An increasing focus on persuasive communication skills across different platforms (physical vs online).

Key Moments:

1. "My whole life has really been about debate and about arguments and about ideas and about people because obviously the arguments are useless without the people."

2. "This affects everybody, this affects kids, this affects adults, this affects their careers, this affects their jobs, this affects the teachers."

3. "We need people to chime in and say maybe this one is GDPR compliant... but I think everybody needs to be involved in these conversations."

4. "If you don't get involved [in discussions about AI],  then it's gonna use you."

5. "I am kind of proud of the fact that it isn't like a book written by education technology experts... I think a book written by 20 different people with diverse backgrounds leads to a different place."

Recommendations:

1. Educate all stakeholders about the basics of AI technologies so they can make informed decisions about its usage.
2. Encourage open discussions among educators with diverse perspectives to better understand the implications of AI tools in education.
3. Develop guidelines for ethical use of AI-generated content within educational settings.

Conclusion:

This conversation revealed that while there are significant benefits associated with using AI technologies like ChatGPT in education, there are also potential drawbacks that must be considered carefully. By engaging in open discussions and understanding the basics of these technologies, educators can make informed decisions about their use and ensure that they contribute positively to educational theory and practice. Further testing and development are necessary to address concerns related to ethics, safety, and potential negative impacts on diversity, equity, and inclusion.

RESOURCES & FURTHER LEARNING:

• We discuss lawyers using these tools back in April and just recently this happened so we are not replaceable yet!
• Read all of his work on LinkedIn
• And quite simply read the book!

FAVORITE MOMENTS FROM THE CONVERSATION:

Listener Challenge 1: "Empowering Learners" Based on Sarah's insights, how can you apply her approach to empower learners in your own setting? Whether you're a teacher, a manager, or a parent, we'd love to hear your thoughts. Share your strategies or experiences.

Listener Challenge 2: "The Power of Story" Sarah emphasized the importance of story in various aspects of education. We challenge you to share a story that had a significant impact on your learning journey or one you've used to facilitate learning. Let's inspire each other with compelling narratives!

Listener Challenge 3: "Striking Balance" Balance may not be the right goal, as Sarah suggests, but being present is. Share a moment where being present made a difference in your professional or personal life. Or, share your strategies for staying present amid the pressures of time and performance. We look forward to hearing your experiences!

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Show Highlights:

Getting to Know Sarah: Delve into Sarah Brown Wessling's intriguing backstory and discover why the human condition plays such a crucial role in her life journey.

Powerful Insights: Sarah discusses the power of story, the true complexity of teaching, and the challenges of implementing learner-centric education.

The Art of Feedback: Uncover Sarah's unique approach to feedback and its role in shaping students' skills and understanding.

Challenges & Goals: Sarah opens up about her personal and professional challenges, from balancing life to creating safe spaces for educators and empowering learners.

Key Quotes:

1. "I want to do good work; that's the bottom line."
2. "It's always about figuring out what people need to learn and how they need to learn it."
3. "If teachers become robots, then their students are going to be robots."
4. "It is complicated, and that's what I wish people understood about the craft [of teaching]."
5. "You can't fall so far into the routine that you forget to be a human."

Deeper Takeaways:

Explore how Sarah's insights reveal the importance of storytelling in education, the often-overlooked skills of teachers, and the need for deliberate decision-making in teaching practices.

Emerging Patterns:

Our conversation uncovers common threads among teachers seeking connection with students, the importance of community support, and the focus on empowering learners through thoughtful teaching practices.

Resources & Further Learning:

Check out Sarah's Website for more insights and ideas.

Twitter: https://twitter.com/sarahbwessling

Favorite Moments from the Conversation:

Throughout our conversation, Sarah shares a wealth of powerful insights and ideas. Here are just a few of our favorites:

1. "My way of being has always been to do the best work that I can with what's right in front of me and then believe that the next most honest step will open up and it's my job to find it or my job to pay attention to it."
2. "The bottom line is I want to do good work. That's the bottom line. And I think good work is human work."
3. "The throughline in the journalism, the philosophy, the psychology, the literary is story."
4. "When a teacher ends up in the center it is probably because they aren't being seen elsewhere or because a system isn't taking care of them. It's probably because they feel incredible pressure around time. It's probably because they feel incredible pressure around performance. It's probably because they are overwhelmed."
5. "And I taught them how to think because I taught them how to read carefully and I taught them how to write and I taught them how to find the language to capture their ideas and how to make that language mean something to a reader."
6. "I think it's always about figuring out what people need to learn and how they need to learn it. And that's never about me, it's always about the learner. It's always about their goals. It's about empowering them. It's about seeing in themselves what they can't see yet. I think that kind work is pretty consistent whether you're talking to a 15 year old who hates to read and doesn't want to write, or you're talking to an adult who's feeling demoralized in the profession."
7. "It's easy for me to say it's about the learner. That doesn't mean that it's easy to live."
8. "Because what that means is when you feel the pressure of time, you're willing to say the time is not as important as me finishing this 60 second conversation with this student. It is just not as important or getting to the end of that chapter might not be as important as the time it would take to do the rest of the chapter really, really well. That's where the rub is that teachers have to make those kinds of decisions and those are kind of like value based decisions and they can come at a personal cost."
9. "We can make very deliberate decisions about what myths we do and don't buy into, about teaching and learning. We can make really deliberate decisions about how we think about time. I think we can make really deliberate decisions about the research that we do."
10. "I've always approached feedback to really deconstruct for students when they're doing something well and why it's working because I want them to replicate it more deliberately in more complex ways later."
11. "You can't fall so far into the routine that you forget to be a human and you can't be on the other end of the spectrum either and be like all we're going to do is feel good and talk to each other and not drill down to the actual skills and the content. It is complicated and that's what I wish people understood about the craft."
12. "Balance is an unfair goal for people to try to work towards. For me to reframe that as presence felt really empowering."
13. "The best way to work through something difficult is to make a connection with another person."
14. "It's really hard for somebody to be present if they are worried about not being able to take care of their life. So that's not about balance, that's just about taking care of humans."

Join us for this enlightening episode as we explore the human side of education with Sarah Brown Wessling.

• Who is Andrea Stewart?
• What is her origin story?
• What is Learning Couture and why is this work important?
• What is deeper learning and  why it's so important for teachers and students to tackle real-world situations?
• How can creating a Profile of a Graduate help schools and districts set the stage for deeper learning? How is a profile or portrait different from typical mission and vision statements?
• Teaching is pretty heavy right now. As districts shift to a focus on deeper learning competencies, how do they keep this movement from becoming “one more thing” for educators?
• What do listeners need to know about competency-based education–where did it come from and where is it going?
• A key point is how our education system was designed at a time and based on the needs of a factory model. Why doesn't this model fit for today’s learners and today’s economy?
• Undoing 150 years of how we do education seems daunting. How do districts and schools might start their journey? What do they need to be successful and what might be standing in their way?
• How do we see AI playing a role in helping bring about the changes you’ve described today? We discuss examples of how AI is already being used in education and how it might be used in the future?

Key takeaways from this conversation include:

• Despite feeling like change isn’t happening rapidly in education, there are growing movements and momentum picking up.
• COVID-19 has played a role in accelerating some changes within the education system.
• AI tools have the potential to help educators create more personalized lesson plans and experiences for their students.

If you are interested in learning more about how to customize learning experiences for yourself or others, you don’t want to miss this episode!

About Our Guest

Andrea Stewart has 12 years in personalized, competency-based learning and 25 years in education, both PK-12 and in teacher/administrator preparation. She leads transformational change with schools, districts, education service/state agencies, institutions of higher education, and via national conferences and cross-state partnerships/consultation. Andrea co-authored the Aurora Institute’s 2022 report, Teachers Making the Shift to Equitable, Learner-Centered Education: Harnessing Mental Models, Motivations and Moves, and supports leaders with strategic planning for and implementation of these key levers for change. As Learning Couture, LLC’s founder and CEO, she created the organization’s methodology and tool set for learning redesign, and works closely with partner-clients to ensure they are supported in their learning journey. Part of this work includes leading districts in the design and implementation of a portrait/profile of a graduate, which then serves as the compass for school improvement, reimagining graduation outcomes, empowering learners, and transforming education systems.

Andrea served on the Iowa Department of Education’s CBE Task Force, CBE Collaborative, and Design Team where she led the state’s competency design and assessment process. Andrea also served on the Midwest Comprehensive Center’s Cross-state CBE Consortium, where she co-created micro-credential quality criteria/tools, and contributed to multiple technical advisory groups for the Aurora Institute’s National 2017 Summit on K-12 Competency-Based Education. Her work in competency-based education began in 2011 where she led pilot implementation of standards-based assessment and reporting and competency-based education in an Iowa district. Prior to this work, Andrea taught high school English for 12 years. She holds a BA in English Education from the University of Iowa, an MA in Teacher Leadership from Morningside College, and an EdS in Education Administration from Drake University.

Connect with Andrea

LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/andrea-stewart146
Twitter: @ajs_stewart

Emerging Patterns

In this episode, we also explore some of the emerging patterns that Andrea has observed in her work and research. These include:

• The need for more experiential learning opportunities within education systems.
• A shift towards focusing on learning instead of time spent in classrooms.
• The importance of starting with “why” when implementing changes in education.
• Building a network or community of experts and practitioners to support each other through these changes.
• Adopting an agile mindset to iterate quickly, fail forward, and build successes incrementally.

Key Moments

Here are some of the key moments from this conversation that you don’t want to miss:

1. “I’m a change agent, and I help young and adult learners become agents of change too.”
2. “In my heart of hearts, I’m a designer, I’m a builder, I’m a creator.”
3. “We want our young learners to have [an experience] that’s really empowering.”
4. “The future of living learning and working is unpredictable.”
5. “We can’t predict the jobs that are going to be around in five and ten years from now.”
6. “The momentum is really picking up and what often felt like these little, maybe tiny bright spots here and there were, you’re starting to hear more and more stories of like the movements happening.”
7. “Competency-based [education] is a disruptor in terms of its blowing up seat time.”
8. "We need continuous improvement in school… we also need discontinuous improvement, which means there’s been some disruptor put in place."

Listener Challenge:

We challenge you to think about how you can customize your own learning experiences or help others do the same. What are some of the competencies that you want to develop or improve? How can you design a learning pathway that suits your needs and interests? How can you involve other stakeholders in your learning journey? How can you measure your progress and celebrate your achievements?

💬 Share your thoughts and ideas with us on social media and tagging us. We would love to hear from you and learn from your experiences!

Resources From The Show:

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  • Learning Couture One Pager
  • Learning Couture Portrait/Profile of a Graduate
  • Teachers Making the Shift to Equitable, Learner-Centered Education_ Harnessing Mental Models, Motivations, and Moves 
  • Transforming Learning through Competency-Based Education (Susan Patrick, Aurora Institute)
  • Quality and Equity by Design: Charting the Course for the Next Phaseof Competency-Based Education (Contributing authors from Iowa: Mandi Bozarth, Susan Pecinovsky, Andrea Stewart, Circe Stumbo)
  • Does Deeper Learning Improve Student Outcomes?Results From the Study of Deeper Learning: Opportunities and Outcomes
  • 7 Elements of Learning Agency (infographics by Kathleen McClaskey and Barbara Bray)
  • A Promise for Equitable Futures: Enabling Systems Change to Scale Educational and Economic Mobility Pathways (Patrick & Casey, Aurora Institute)
  • Competency-Based Education: Students with Learning and Attention Issues (National Center for Learning Disabilities)

Favorite Ideas from the Conversation:

• Embrace the challenges and goals of rethinking education and fostering critical thinking.
• Explore the importance of moving beyond traditional differentiation and personalized learning.

Challenges:

1. Moving beyond traditional differentiation and personalized learning.
2. Fostering authentic connections and curiosity in learners.
3. Balancing virtual and in-person interactions in the post-pandemic world.

Goals:

1. Develop and implement truly individualized learning practices.
2. Encourage students to create their curriculum and collaborate in the learning process.
3. Build a global community of educators to share ideas, research, and support.

Surprising Takeaways:

1. The scale and reach of the "What School Could Be" community, with 14,000 members and 50,000 connections globally.
2. The concept of "rethinking" the time in the classroom with time spent doing things that matter instead of tedious tasks that can be done by tools like ChatGPT

Key Moments:

1. Susanna Johnson introduces herself and her work in education.
2. The discussion of Susanna's involvement with "What School Could Be" and her role as the Director of Coaching and Curriculum.
3. Susanna's emphasis on critical thinking as a skill set and the need to connect at a human level.

Emerging Patterns:

1. A focus on collaboration and shared learning experiences among educators and students.
2. The importance of authenticity and human connection in the learning process.
3. The shift towards a more global and connected approach to education.

Discussion Points:

• Inquire about the power of personalized learning and how it can change students' educational experience.
• Explore the concept of rethinking the classroom and the potential benefits of this approach.
• Engage with the idea of a global community of educators and the role it can play in shaping the future of education.

Conclusion:

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  • Rethinking education and fostering critical thinking is crucial for the future of learning.
  • Authentic connections and collaboration are essential for a more human-centered approach to education.
  • Let's work together to build a brighter future for our students and create a more connected global community.

Listener Challenge:

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  • Share your thoughts and experiences with rethinking education and fostering critical thinking on social media.
  • Reach out to other educators and build a supportive network for sharing ideas, research, and support.
  • Encourage others to join the conversation and help shape the future of education.

💬 Share your thoughts and takeaways from this enlightening conversation with us on social media! What resonated with you the most?

Resources Mentioned in Show:

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  • https://www.individualizedrealized.com/ 
  • https://www.impact-bound.com/
  • https://whatschoolcouldbe.org/ 

Favorite Ideas from the Conversation:

🌿 Introduction: Meet Steffany Cartellone

• The woman behind A Snail's Pace blog
• A devoted mother, nature lover, and experienced educator

🌱 Steffany's Origin Story

• From the tranquil waters of Deer Lake, Minnesota to the classrooms of North Carolina, Texas, Iowa, and Maryland
• How teaching a high ropes course in the mountains led to her A-HA moment

🌳 Lessons Learned Through Teaching Across the US

• Embracing new perspectives and understanding cultural nuances
• The power of shared experiences and connections between people

🍃 Bringing Learning to the Dinner Table

• Merging her passion for nature, outdoors, and photography
• The art of capturing human emotions and perspectives in her writing and photographs
• Overcoming vulnerability and the courage to hit the "Publish" button

💡Challenges, Goals & Surprising Takeaways

• Striking a balance between proficiency measurements and nurturing students' curiosity and passion
• The importance of intentionality and setting the right tone in education
• The realization that middle school students share similarities despite cultural differences

🔑 Key Moments & Emerging Patterns

• The continuous pursuit of learning and growth as an educator
• The influence of personal passions and perspectives in shaping one's teaching approach

Listener Challenge:

📷 Embrace the beauty of nature - take a picture outdoors, write a few words or a poem, and share your creation with us and the world.

📚 Dive into my example I did this weekend in preparation for the episode

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  • Strength in Adversity: Overcoming Life's Obstacles with the Wheelbarrow and Wagon Approach, 

💬 Share your thoughts and takeaways from this enlightening conversation with us on social media! What resonated with you the most?

Join us in exploring Steffany Cartellone's fascinating journey through education and nature, and let her story inspire you to see the world through a new lens!

Resources Mentioned in Show:

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  • Her website of writing, insights, and photography - http://www.a-snails-pace.com/
  • Read this latest piece on perspective and tell me your coffee does not taste better looking at these images!
  • Where the Crawdads Sing https://amzn.to/3NgYgBA
  • Read all the things from Mary Oliver
  • Armchair Expert podcast with guest David Letterman
  • Brene Brown books

Favorite Ideas from the Conversation:

• Introduction: Who is Carol Hill?
• Carol's origin story and journey to LEGO Education
• Global insights that led to success
• Identifying a problem before falling in love with a solution
• The meaning of being agile
• Developing an agile, growth mindset in colleagues and students
• Building psychological safety and promoting a nimble approach
• Carol's preferred structure/framework for agile work
• The importance of providing quality feedback
• Capturing deep levels of thinking while being agile and working with others

Key Quotes:

1. "If you don't have that psychological safety, really, not a whole lot is going to come of the conversations in the room."
2. "Don't fall in love with the solution; fall in love with the problem."
3. "It's so impactful to take the time, and it does take time to build these kinds of skills [problem identification]."

Listener Challenge:

Share ideas you gathered from the conversation with us on social media. What resonated with you?

Resources Mentioned in Show:

• Carol Hill's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-rueckert-hill/
• List of books from her post and discussion
  • Radical Candor: Fully Revised & Updated Edition: Be a Kick-Ass Boss Without Losing Your Humanity https://amzn.to/43GuoEQ
  • The Fearless Organization: Creating Psychological Safety in the Workplace for Learning, Innovation, and Growth https://amzn.to/40jEZCu
  • Rebel Ideas: The Power of Diverse Thinking https://amzn.to/3mFBKrn
  • Nonviolent Communication: A Language of Life: Life-Changing Tools for Healthy Relationships (Nonviolent Communication Guides) https://amzn.to/3MLqEMd
  • EMPOWERED: Ordinary People, Extraordinary Products (Silicon Valley Product Group) https://amzn.to/3A2o2lx
  • INSPIRED: How to Create Tech Products Customers Love (Silicon Valley Product Group) https://amzn.to/43GyuNe
  • Cascades: How to Create a Movement that Drives Transformational Change https://amzn.to/3MPCOnb
  • Building a Culture of Innovation: A Practical Framework for Placing Innovation at the Core of Your Business https://amzn.to/3KJZFhj
  • Seeing Around Corners: How to Spot Inflection Points in Business Before They Happen https://amzn.to/3L7cljI
  • Sense and Respond: How Successful Organizations Listen to Customers and Create New Products Continuously https://amzn.to/3KN46YG
  • Pirates in the Navy: How Innovators Lead Transformation https://amzn.to/3mNIu6q
  • Be Less Zombie: How Great Companies Create Dynamic Innovation, Fearless Leadership and Passionate People https://amzn.to/40hJFsu
  • The Corporate Startup: How established companies can develop successful innovation ecosystems https://amzn.to/3A5XEad 
  • The Lean Startup: How Today's Entrepreneurs Use Continuous Innovation to Create Radically Successful Businesses https://amzn.to/3ULUFxd
  • The Agile Leader: How to Create an Agile Business in the Digital Age https://amzn.to/3UJPJsO
  • Succeeding with Agile: Software Development Using Scrum (Addison-Wesley Signature Series (Cohn)) https://amzn.to/3A3YNz1
  • Jobs to be Done: Theory to Practice https://amzn.to/3GPSF1m
  • Strategyzer (5 book series) Kindle Edition https://amzn.to/3KQCmme
  • What's Your Problem?: To Solve Your Toughest Problems, Change the Problems You Solve https://amzn.to/41dVoK7
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Favorite Ideas from the Conversation:

• Building psychological safety for learners
• Focusing on understanding the problem rather than jumping to solutions
• Developing an agile mindset that embraces iterative development, testing, adapting, and dealing with uncertainty
• Using LEGO bricks as a storytelling tool to express thoughts and feelings more comfortably
• The power of tangible building activities (e.g., using LEGO) in facilitating communication

JUST A FEW OF MY FAVORITE IDEAS FROM THE CONVERSATION!

1. Who is Josh Reppun?
2. His origin story from Hawaii to being a chef, hotel manager, then into education.
3. What have been so of the impacts of MLTS as a springboard to create change in education over the years?
4. What are the commonalities that Josh has been able to gather from all the perspectives and teaching in various locations?
5. How do we think about the education system based on success stories from all over.
6. What is next for Josh in his work in education?

Overview Breakdown(help from Notably)

Participant: - The primary participant in this conversation is Josh, an experienced educator and advocate for innovation in education. He works with Ted Dintersmith's organization, whatschoolcouldbe.org, and hosts the "What School Could Be" podcast.

Challenges and Goals:

- The main challenge discussed is the need for a shift in educational practices to better prepare students for the rapidly changing world.

- The goal is to connect educators and foster collaboration across various fields, leading to innovative teaching practices that better serve students in today's world.

Takeaways:

- The impact of Ted Dintersmith's film "Most Likely To Succeed" on Josh's approach to education and advocacy for change.

- The importance of building a community around education reform, as seen through the development of whatschoolcouldbe.org, and its associated online community.

- The rapid spread of innovative ideas in education, fueled by increased communication and collaboration among educators worldwide.

- The potential impact of podcasts and other digital resources on education.

Emerging Patterns:

- Increased focus on skill-building and content analysis from kindergarten onwards, rather than focusing solely on content during K-12 education.

- Integration of technology and innovative approaches in education to improve student outcomes and empower them for future success.

- The power of continuous conversations and support in helping people move from their point A to point B in their personal and professional lives (concept of "big magic"). - Using podcast episodes as a "spark" for professional learning experiences and fostering intentional connections between educators in various settings.

YOUR CHALLENGE

Share ideas you gathered from the conversation with us on the socials.

What resonated with you?

RESOURCES MENTIONED IN SHOW

• Podcast - https://wscbpodcast.com/
• https://whatschoolcouldbe.org/
• Twiiter - https://twitter.com/joshreppun
• Most Likely To Succeed - https://teddintersmith.com/mltsfilm/
• 100. Ted Dintersmith, Relentless Crusader for What School Could Be https://blubrry.com/wscbh/93736556/100-ted-dintersmith-relentless-crusader-for-what-school-could-be
• 6 Ways to Use ChatGPT to Save Time https://www.edutopia.org/article/6-ways-chatgpt-save-teachers-time/
• Big Magic: Creative Living Beyond Fear https://amzn.to/3UvGP21
• 103. Bike Repair, Great Coffee and Three Pioneers at Embark Education https://blubrry.com/wscbh/94993764/103-bike-repair-great-coffee-and-three-pioneers-at-embark-education

JUST A FEW OF MY FAVORITE IDEAS FROM THE CONVERSATION!

In this thought-provoking episode, we dive into the world of education and technology with renowned expert, Gary Stager. Join us as we explore:

1. The journey and accomplishments of Gary Stager
2. The concept of "computing" as an action, shaping how we perceive technology
3. The thought-provoking question: Does the computer program the child, or does the child program the computer?
4. The importance of balancing opposing ideas in modern education

Discover key insights on:

1. The need for all kids to have programming experience
2. The consequences of K-12 computer science curriculum
3. The challenge of balancing educator experience with legislative mandates
4. The idea of granting "permission" to both educators and students in the learning process

We'll also discuss the impact of tools like ChatGPT on education, the fusion of mathematics and computing in teaching, and the power of block-based coding languages. Finally, we reflect on the role of technology in shaping education and the difference between "old" and "timeless" teaching methods.

Don't miss this enlightening and engaging conversation with Gary Stager!

YOUR CHALLENGE

Share ideas you gathered from the conversation with us on the socials.

What resonated with you?

RESOURCES MENTIONED IN SHOW

• Website - http://cmkfutures.com/
• Gary Stager Website - http://professorgarystager.com/
• Twitter - https://twitter.com/garystager
• Invent To Learn - https://inventtolearn.com/
• Book - Invent To Learn – Making, Tinkering, and Engineering in the Classroom
• Book - Twenty Things to Do with a Computer Forward 50: Future Visions of Education Inspired by Seymour Papert and Cynthia Solomon’s Seminal Work 
• Adrift: America in 100 Charts 
• Stephan Wolfram - What is ChatGPT Doing? and Why Does It Work?
• Constructing Modern Knowledge Summer Institute

JUST A FEW OF MY FAVORITE IDEAS FROM THE CONVERSATION!

1. Who is Leon Furze?
2. Why did Leon go into a Ph.D in artificial intelligence prior to ChatGPT blowing up?
3. How does Leon help educators working through the process of how AI can benefit the classroom?
4. Why is the conversation on cheating is a distraction to the bigger issues to tackle?
5. The big topic of ethics and AI
6. How do we tackle these topics when most have no idea about these tools at all?
7. What are the questions Leon is hearing from educators in the field?

YOUR CHALLENGE

Share ideas you gathered from the conversation with us on the socials.

What resonated with you?

RESOURCES MENTIONED IN SHOW

• Website: https://leonfurze.com/
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leonfurze
• Atlas of AI: Power, Politics, and the Planetary Costs of Artificial Intelligence https://amzn.to/3ZxCAnk
• College Essay Is Dead: Generative AI is progressing furiously—and educators need to catch up fast, @StephenMarche writes. Just a few of my favorite ideas from the conversation!
• End of High School Essay
• Has Elon Musk Infiltrated Generative AI(ChatGPT)? Unlocking the Power of AI for Next-Level Critical Thinking Skills 

JUST A FEW OF MY FAVORITE IDEAS FROM THE CONVERSATION!

1. Note to listener: we recorded this episode mid February of 2023 prior to all the updates with ChatGPT 4 and more. Just providing context
2. Who is Peter Pappas?
3. Setting the stage with his teaching style and how it came to be by thinking about how to teach like an art teacher
4. How has Peter navigated AI in the landscape of education?
5. How is Peter trying to process AI in his teaching and learning in his practice with concepts like his AI toolkit and more?
6. How do we manage currently being behind in media and digital literacy skills with the addition of AI skills?
7. Exploring the hot topic of AI and cheating
8. What can teachers do with AI?

YOUR CHALLENGE

Share ideas you gathered from the conversation with us on the socials.

What resonated with you?

RESOURCES MENTIONED IN SHOW

• Website: https://peterpappas.com/
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edteck/
• Taxonomy of Reflection: https://peterpappas.com/2010/01/taxonomy-reflection-critical-thinking-students-teachers-principals.html
• AI Toolkit For Teaching and Learning: https://edtechmethods.com/ai-toolkit/
• Gary Marcus - http://garymarcus.com/index.html 
• https://neeva.com/
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Just a few of my favorite ideas from the conversation!

1. Who is Rafranz Davis?
2. What is her origin story from education to her new job?
3. How do we work to increase the opportunities to have someone take notice of us to make a difference?
4. What are some of the parallels and areas of focus we need to continue in education based on her experience working in education, her life experience, and now LinkedIn.
5. How do we connect community to education to help students become aware of the opportunities around us all?
6. How do we look back at our work and journey to move forward in a positive light?
7. The power of posting in a globally connected network.

YOUR CHALLENGE

Share ideas you gathered from the conversation with us on the socials.

What resonated with you?

RESOURCES MENTIONED IN SHOW

• Rafranz LinkedIn profile - https://www.linkedin.com/in/rafranzdavis/ 
  • She also has a newsletter on the platform
• Pencils and Popcorn podcast she just launched

Just a few of my favorite ideas from the conversation!

1. Who is Dan Fitzpatrick?
2. What do we need to think about AI differently than just the latest shiny object?
3. How do we consider accessibility and equity with devices, access, and teaching of skills?
4. How do we go back to rethinking our media and digital skills?
5. How do we stop and pause to consider ethics to these tools?
6. How do we strike a balance of how to monitor or work with these tools?
7. Fun brainstorming future possibilities :)

YOUR CHALLENGE

Share ideas you gathered from the conversation with us on the socials.

What resonated with you?

RESOURCES MENTIONED IN SHOW

• OPEN: How we'll work, live and learn in the future https://amzn.to/3ZxJVnJ
• AI Educator website - https://theaieducator.io
• The AI Classroom: Teaching and Learning in the Artificial Intelligence Revolution (The Hitchhiker's Guide for Educators Series) https://amzn.to/3mpQnyr
• Follow Dan on Twitter and LinkedIn - https://theaieducator.io/#contact 

Just a few of my favorite ideas from the conversation!

1. Who is Zoe Weil?
2. What is her origin story that has brought her to this place of being so passionate about humane work?
3. What is a solutionary?
4. What are ways to create opportunities for students to be solutionaries despite the barriers of the K-12 education system?
5. What is the difference between a problem solver vs. solutionary?
6. To be solutionary needs to address the root causes and how this differs from humanitarian act(which is good to do) which does not solve a problem.

YOUR CHALLENGE

Share ideas you gathered from the conversation with us on the socials.

What resonated with you?

RESOURCES MENTIONED IN SHOW

• The World Becomes What We Teach: Educating a Generation of Solutionaries
• https://humaneeducation.org/
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5HEV96dIuY

Just a few of my favorite ideas from the conversation!

1. Who is Jenahlee Chamberlain?
2. What is her origin story to find herself in her current role?
3. How does she process all the resources and materials to determine a clean concise flow for teaching and learning?
4. How to organize vertically K-12 and ensuring equity and access to be able to use lessons no matter the school?

YOUR CHALLENGE

Share ideas you gathered from the conversation with us on the socials.

What resonated with you?

RESOURCES MENTIONED IN SHOW

• Session recording explaining how she created, organized, and put together her computer science flow for elementary
• Slides from presentation above that contains her work discussed in the show
• Connect with Jenahlee on Twitter
• Join her webinar on graphic design

Just a few of my favorite ideas from the conversation!

In this episode of the podcast, I speak with the wonderful and incredible Jenny Buccos.

Jenny Buccos is a multi-award-winning director and producer. She is the founder and Head of Content of EXPLR Media, a multimedia education strategist, and an agent for global citizenship.She is the Creator and Executive Producer of Crash Test World- a family-focused TV series presented by Kari Byron (Mythbusters). (Available on Discovery+)

​​In 2003, before the existence of YouTube, she founded ProjectExplorer, a free multimedia website designed to educate primary and secondary school students about global issues and world cultures and histories. She has directed and produced over 500 short films working with leaders and visionaries including Archbishop Desmond Tutu, Belize’s First Lady Kim Simplis Barrow, Ziggy Marley, and Anthony Bourdain.

​An international specialist in video and media-focused curriculum design, Jenny provides consulting services for educational, cultural, and non-profit organizations focused on increasing student access and engagement.

Jenny has traveled to over 70 countries. When not traveling, she splits her time between Brooklyn, New York, and Amsterdam, Netherlands.

Direct Link: Episode: 

• Find the this episode and all the previous episodes on Apple Podcast
• The episode and previous episodes of the show is also on Spotify!

TOPICS WE EXPLORE

All profiles can be found here

1. Who is Jenny Buccos?
2. What is EXPLR Media?
3. How do you think through the stories for curiosity to lead us into conversation and education?
4. Real World, Relevant, Relatable
5. How do we weave these three R's into the story of the learning journey with time constraints and context of students?
6. What has stayed the same and/or what has changed over time when it comes to telling quality stories and creating sparks of curiosities?
7. Meet students where they are at and what is engaging them.
8. What are some of the greatest AHA moments?
9. How do you sift through all the ideas to determine which story to tell?
10. Exploration of careers and bring these opportunities for students?
11. What is her origin story?

YOUR CHALLENGE

Share ideas you gathered from the conversation with us on the socials.

What resonated with you?

RESOURCES MENTIONED IN SHOW

• https://www.explr-media.com/
• https://www.jennybuccos.com/ 

Just a few of my favorite ideas from the conversation!

All profiles can be found here

1. Who is Amanda Clark?
2. Who is Erin Starkey?
3. Who is Sara Lev?
4. How did the three of these awesome people come together?
5. Erin Starkey Misconceptions on PBL and Literacy
   1. Power words: Perception and Permission
6. Sara Lev Misconceptions on PBL and Integration
   1. Pressure of foundation skills and "catching students up"
   2. Three layers to consider
7. Amanda Clark Misconceptions on PBL and Sustained Inquiry
   1. Inquiry, Investigation, Experimentation
   2. Field Trips vs. Field Work
8. The power of being seen as an early childhood educator from the leaders
9. Power of not dismissing the misconceptions, but embracing and working forward to create solutions
10. Universal ideas from this work to all learners

YOUR CHALLENGE

Share ideas you gathered from the conversation with us on the socials.

What resonated with you?

RESOURCES MENTIONED IN SHOW

• PBL Works
• Book: Implementing Project Based Learning in Early Childhood: Overcoming Misconceptions and Reaching Success
  • Amazon
  • Routledge
• Website: www.earlychildhoodpbl.com
• Twitter: @ec_pbl
• Instagram: @earlychildhoodpbl
• Facebook: Early Childhood PBL (private group)
• Article: 30 PBL Ideas for Young Children
• Course: https://earlychildhoodpbl.teachable.com/

Just a few of my favorite passages from the book!

TOPICS WE EXPLORE

1. Who is Joey Cofone?
2. Issues with education system and why there is a disconnect to needs of ourselves and others.
3. Barriers of creativity built by invisible rules
4. What can Alexander the Great teacher us about creativity?
5. Power word "disruption"
6. Making things different vs. making things better
7. Activity to showcase our uniqueness mathematically
8. Why is weird accepted on a global scale, but not a local scale?
9. How did Joey use the Laws of Creativity to build a notebook company?
10. Language shapes how we think and how he coined the word "Thinkers"
11. Tale of Two Gloves: Power of belonging to a community
12. Creativity is misunderstood
13. Final thoughts from Joey

YOUR CHALLENGE

Share ideas you gathered from the conversation with us on the socials.

What resonated with you?

RESOURCES MENTIONED IN SHOW

• https://www.joeycofone.com/
• https://baronfig.com/ 
• The Laws of Creativity: Unlock Your Originality and Awaken Your Creative Genius https://amzn.to/3XWFDFw

Pernille Ripp is an expert in literacy and technology integration and dedicates her research and practice to developing engaged and empowered students and communities.

She is a teacher, speaker, author, blogger, and passionate advocate for education. She is the recipient of the 2015 WEMTA Making IT Happen Award; and the 2015 ISTE Award for Innovation in Global Collaboration.

In 2010, Pernille founded The Global Read Aloud, a global literacy initiative that began with a simple goal in mind: one book to connect the world. From its humble beginnings, the GRA has grown to connect millions of students in around the world.

She is the author of Passionate Readers -The Art of Reaching and Engaging Every Child and  Passionate Learners – How to Engage and Empower Your Students, now in its second edition, and Empowered Schools, Empowered Students, both focusing on creating learning spaces and communities where students thrive and all stakeholders are empowered and passionate about learning. She has also authored Reimagining Literacy Through Global Collaboration published in 2016 by Solution Tree.  Her work has also been featured in many print and online journals including Edutopia, The New York Times, School Library Journal, The Guardian, and MiddleWeb.

You can follow Pernille’s work on Blogging Through The Fourth Dimension, her personal blog and a frequent Teach100 top-rated education blog.

Pernille’s current research interest is in creating passionate literacy environments within the restriction of our current educational systems to helping students fall in love with literacy again. She uses her own classroom as a laboratory, as well as learns from the many educators she works with across the world.

Pernille is now also part of The Author Village, a collective of forward-thinking children’s book authors and educators available for school and library visits, conferences, festivals, panels, and professional development opportunities.  To see her page there, please go here.

Direct Link: Episode: 

CHECK OUT THE SHOW AND EPISODES ON ITUNES

The show is on Spotify!

TOPICS WE EXPLORE

1. Who is Pernille Ripp? And what does she have going on?
2. What are some AHA moments in the transition to living back in Denmark after being the US for a long time?
3. What are differences in education between US and Denmark?
4. What are similarities in education between US and Denmark?
5. Why are we going backwards since COVID?
6. Power of moderation, not thinking in extremes told through lens of the recent reading wars
7. Third edition of her book, Passionate Learners, is about how do we let go in a system that teaches us that control is the best way to manage?
   1. Dealing with our own control demons
   2. Power of trust
   3. How do you start off the year co-creating community with students?
   4. How is power at the core of classroom about power and positional control?
   5. And how you do you this in the daily class, not just a one activity lesson

YOUR CHALLENGE

Share ideas you gathered from the conversation with us on the socials.

What resonated with you?

RESOURCES MENTIONED IN SHOW

Instagram

Twitter

Patreon community

Blog

And pre+order of my her edition?

• https://linktr.ee/PernilleRipp
  • all the goodness of her website AND more!
• Pernille Ripp Website 
  • Her website contains everything you would ever need to find all of her work!
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1. Who is Jeremy Utley and how did he find his way to education from business work around the globe?
2. Young people need permission to not know
3. Not asking a young person what they want to be when they grow
4. The Einstellung effect where we cease to search when we think we have a plausible first answer AND how Ideaflow works to push through this issue of thinking.
5. Connection of creativity and an arm splint
6. We are not practicing what we are saying we are saying in education? How do we do this type of work of Ideaflow and the space for it?
7. What do we mean by creativity?
8. Don't always evaluate. Simple challenge going, "Oh good! and fill in with a response" Start with a gift of good and the try a gift of bad.
9. What if we couldn't do, then what would we do? Repeat this process for your first new idea to work to get past our first idea.
10. Power of framing a prompt or challenge where it is more on the approach vs. the answer.
11. "Curiosity can pull you where discipline and willpower would otherwise have to push"

YOUR CHALLENGE

Share ideas you gathered from the conversation with us on the socials.

What resonated with you?

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Ideaflow: The Only Business Metric That Matters

• Blog: jeremyutley.design
• Twitter: @jeremyutley
• Stanford's Masters of Creativity
• Leading Disruptive Innovation
• LaunchPad
• Astro Teller who is the head of Google X

1. Who is Laura McBain in case you don't already know!
2. How might we best deliver content to young people? AND...
3. How do we bring an asset framework and mindset to our young people and educators?
4. How do we solve the sticky issues that we not yet addressed in our education system?
5. How do we separate the topic of failure from the larger issue in the education system that is so focused in a deficit framed mindset?
6. What happens when a teammate of yours loses their way and fails in front of you? What is our responsiblity when each of us fail?
7. Missed opportunity when we don't have a process to unpack the moments when things don't work.
8. Michael Pryor story of compliant engagement (do as I say, and THEN we can have a great time)
9. Misconception that when we pivot to a new idea means that our previous work is "wrong"
10. Page 63 – Part of the mystery behind failure is this opportunity to surprise yourself. (my favorite line in the book!)
11. If everything is prescriptive, then the magical moments of learning and a strong sense of learning to learn won't happen.
12. Curiosity is what sustains us through moments of failure.

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• My Favorite Failure: How Setbacks Can Lead to Learning and Growth 
• d.school profile
• Laura on Twitter
• Laura on LinkedIn
• 119: The landscape of questions and listening in education with Laura McBain from d.school https://coffeeforthebrain.com/119/
• A video Laura provided as we explore Authentic Learning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbvn0KjtNag&feature=emb_title

John inspires future-makers in creating a culture of vibrant empowerment in their organizations. As a foster kid, John was motivated to learn how some empowered themselves to become victors over their circumstances and others became victims of them. As the Chief Empowerment Officer of Agile Classrooms, he is pioneering Agile in schools to empower teachers and students to thrive in 21st-century learning, life, and work. As the founder of Rightshift Coaching, he helps organizations in their Agile transformations through coaching and training.

His work and ideas are not only reinvigorating education but he is also revitalizing ways to engage in Agile transformations through his Agile Resonance Coaching method. He has helped a spectrum of organizations, from Fortune 500 companies to at-risk schools, in pivoting their culture to achieve in a fast-changing, competitive world. He holds a Certified Enterprise Coach® certification and is a Certified Professional CoActive Coach, Associate Certified Coach, and a Project Management Professional.

When not focused on work, John loves to surf (well, wiping out more than actually surfing), make silly faces with his seven-year-old daughter, volunteers as a life coach for students, co-leads a Nonviolent Communication Group, and makes insanely delicious drinking chocolates. Say hi to him on Twitter @agileschools.

TOPICS WE EXPLORE

1. Who is John Miller?
2. What do we mean by "agile" and "SCRUM"?(resources below)
3. Power of the word "permission"
4. What are some ways to get this work to work when change is tough?
5. See, feel, change
6. Fail small
7. Misconceptions about this work
8. Communication is a skill that needs to be taught
9. How let go of lower level needs to be needed for deeper levels of thinking.

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• Agile Classrooms
• Iowa ALN Agile and SCRUM Support

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      1. What is a prototype?
      2. There a tension between a prototype as a question and a prototype as a statement
      3. The struggle of the muckety muck phase of bringing ideas to life aka "the solution"
      4. It is really hard to sit in a room of silence and watch people think.
      5. Power of space and time to sit with ideas to marinate
      6. Prototyping with focus more on the learning journey vs. final product
      7. Perspective changing of seeing materials as valuable resources
      8. Disservice that when we need/want to be creative we also have to consider "garbage" as material to be able to create.
      9. When making a statement to convince someone of the idea vs. actually showing something to someone to ask a question.
      10. There is only value to be gained by engaging other people in the work.

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  • Read more about the book here - https://dschool.stanford.edu/book-collections/this-is-a-prototype