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<p>Fifty years later, kids who've seen all three versions of <i>Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory </i>keep coming back to the 1971 film, not because it has better effects, but because it was built on something the others weren't. In this episode, we break down what that something is with the help of our special guest Kevin Rippon, Head of Marketing at Juniper Square.</p>
<p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from taking a distinct position, leading with credibility over spectacle, and structuring content that gets to the point fast.</p>
<p>About our guest, Kevin Rippon</p>
<p>A respected and resilient marketing leader, Kevin has held positions in product marketing, growth, digital, brand, creative, and experiential at different career stops with companies ranging from asset management to fashion to vertical SaaS. Kevin currently oversees Marketing at Juniper Square.</p>
<p>What B2B Companies Can Learn From <i>Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory</i>:</p>
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 <li>Know your positioning and take a stand. Gene Wilder's very first scene as Willy Wonka, the cane, the limp, the unexpected somersault, wasn't an accident. It was a declaration. Kevin draws the parallel directly: "The marketing parallel is knowing your positioning or taking a position that's distinct and different." In B2B, most brands try to appeal to everyone and end up resonating with no one. The ones that win commit to a clear, unmistakable point of view, and don't apologize for it.</li>
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<p><i>"Do you have something to say about a particular topic? How can you establish the credibility around it? And then how do you sound different from everyone else, even in your language choices?"</i></p>
<p>Time Stamps</p>
<p>[01:41] Meet Kevin Rippon, Head of Marketing at Juniper Square</p>
<p>[01:57] Why Willy Wonka?</p>
<p>[03:58] The Role of Head of Marketing at Juniper Square</p>
<p>[07:42] <i>Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory</i>: The Story Behind the Story</p>
<p>[13:12] B2B Marketing Takeaways from <i>Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory</i></p>
<p>[43:39] Willy Wonka as Branded Content</p>
<p>[48:46] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p>
<p>Links</p>
<p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-rippon/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Connect with Kevin on LinkedIn </a></p>
<p><a href="http://junipersquare.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">Learn more about Juniper Square</a></p>
<p>About Remarkable! Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction and fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="http://caspianstudios.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">CaspianStudios.com</a>.</p>
<p>In today's episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is "Solomon" by FALAK.</p>
<p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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<p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from taking a distinct position, leading with credibility over spectacle, and structuring content that gets to the point fast.</p>
<p>About our guest, Kevin Rippon</p>
<p>A respected and resilient marketing leader, Kevin has held positions in product marketing, growth, digital, brand, creative, and experiential at different career stops with companies ranging from asset management to fashion to vertical SaaS. Kevin currently oversees Marketing at Juniper Square.</p>
<p>What B2B Companies Can Learn From <i>Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory</i>:</p>
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 <li>Know your positioning and take a stand. Gene Wilder's very first scene as Willy Wonka, the cane, the limp, the unexpected somersault, wasn't an accident. It was a declaration. Kevin draws the parallel directly: "The marketing parallel is knowing your positioning or taking a position that's distinct and different." In B2B, most brands try to appeal to everyone and end up resonating with no one. The ones that win commit to a clear, unmistakable point of view, and don't apologize for it.</li>
 <li>Start with a credible message, then dial up the spectacle. The original Oompa Loompas were real actors. The CGI version in the remake looked slicker yet felt fake. Kevin sees the same trap in B2B content: "Start with a credible message and then work your way up from there in terms of spectacle." Great content isn't about how produced it looks. It's about whether the audience believes it. Credibility is the foundation; everything else is amplification.</li>
 <li>Don't needlessly preface, let content run downhill. Willy Wonka gets to the point fast. A few lines from Grandpa Joe and you're already inside the factory. Kevin has made this a governing principle at Juniper Square: "A principle that we actually have at Juniper Square that we set is don't needlessly preface or over preface things. I firmly believe in content like running downhill." Too much B2B content spends the first half justifying why the reader should care. The best content starts in the middle of the thing they already care about and never looks back.</li>
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<p>Quote</p>
<p><i>"Do you have something to say about a particular topic? How can you establish the credibility around it? And then how do you sound different from everyone else, even in your language choices?"</i></p>
<p>Time Stamps</p>
<p>[01:41] Meet Kevin Rippon, Head of Marketing at Juniper Square</p>
<p>[01:57] Why Willy Wonka?</p>
<p>[03:58] The Role of Head of Marketing at Juniper Square</p>
<p>[07:42] <i>Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory</i>: The Story Behind the Story</p>
<p>[13:12] B2B Marketing Takeaways from <i>Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory</i></p>
<p>[43:39] Willy Wonka as Branded Content</p>
<p>[48:46] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p>
<p>Links</p>
<p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-rippon/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Connect with Kevin on LinkedIn </a></p>
<p><a href="http://junipersquare.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">Learn more about Juniper Square</a></p>
<p>About Remarkable! Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction and fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="http://caspianstudios.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">CaspianStudios.com</a>.</p>
<p>In today's episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is "Solomon" by FALAK.</p>
<p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Standards shape industries, but tastemakers decide what those standards are.</p>
<p>That’s the real lesson from <i>The Devil Wears Prada</i>. What looks like a simple workplace story is really about judgment, brand influence, and how standards shape decisions for years. In this episode, we break down the marketing lessons behind the film with the help of our special guest Ritu Kapoor, Fractional CMO & Ex-CMO at Observe.AI.</p>
<p>Together, we explore what B2B leaders can learn about the power of taste, the long arc of brand influence, and knowing when to break the right rules.</p>
<p>About our guest, Ritu Kapoor</p>
<p>Ritu Kapoor is a Fractional CMO and Ex-CMO at <a href="http://observe.ai" rel="noopener noreferrer">Observe.AI</a>. In her previous role at Observe.AI, she led brand, product marketing, and go-to-market strategy for AI agents transforming customer service. At Observe.AI, she was building a modern GTM engine for the AI-first enterprise, driving a repeatable demand-generation motion, launching next-generation agentic AI products, and leading a comprehensive corporate rebrand that reflected the company’s expanded mission and rapid customer adoption.</p>
<p>Previously, Ritu served as Chief Marketing Officer at Productboard, the product management platform used by teams around the world to build customer-informed products. She led global marketing functions that helped product and engineering teams better align around customer needs and business outcomes.</p>
<p>Across her career, Ritu has driven both organic and inorganic growth; shaped product roadmaps and narratives; built scalable global marketing and customer success functions across EMEA, APAC, and the U.S.; and created operational efficiencies that accelerated sales velocity, improved deal sizes, and enabled faster enterprise launches.</p>
<p>She is proud to have built and led high-performing global teams and successfully launched more than 30 enterprise products and platforms, including ten first-generation offerings, four acquisitions, and five new software categories.</p>
<p>What B2B Companies Can Learn From <i>The Devil Wears Prada</i>:</p>
<ul>
 <li>Taste is the real moat. In <i>The Devil Wears Prada</i>, Miranda’s authority didn’t solely come from her position at Runway. As Ritu explains, “Her influence isn't from authority. Her influence is from judgment.” The same applies in B2B marketing. The best marketers aren’t just executing playbooks, they’re deciding what’s worth attention and what isn’t. In a world where AI can generate endless content, the real advantage is taste: knowing what’s actually good, what’s differentiated, and what deserves investment.</li>
 <li>Brand influence starts long before the buying moment. The famous blue sweater scene captures a core truth about marketing: decisions are shaped long before someone thinks they’re making them. Ritu frames it directly for B2B: “You can't influence somebody when they're just about to buy. The influence starts years later.” By the time a buyer enters the market, their mental shortlist already exists. That’s why brand work (content, storytelling, and consistent presence) creates leverage long before the sales cycle begins.</li>
 <li>Break one rule and commit fully. Great marketing rarely comes from following every best practice. As Ritu puts it, “The magic really is to know which rule to break.” The key is conviction. The brands that stand out aren’t optimizing for average outcomes; they’re willing to take a focused leap.</li>
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<p>Quote</p>
<p>“ We've spent so much time creating hype that nobody trusts vendors anymore… We don't lead with honesty, and we've lost the biggest thing, which is buyer trust…  Pick one thing that builds the trust. You have to find that one anchor of trust, and you have to completely go to it.”</p>
<p>Time Stamps</p>
<p>[01:15] Meet Ritu Kapoor, Fractional CMO & Ex-CMO at Observe.AI</p>
<p>[01:57] Why <i>The Devil Wears Prada</i>?</p>
<p>[11:23] How to Pitch Your Vision</p>
<p>[21:19] The Story Behind <i>The Devil Wears Prada</i></p>
<p>[28:37] B2B Marketing Takeaways from <i>The Devil Wears Prada</i></p>
<p>[48:38] 2026 Content Strategy Tips</p>
<p>[50:28] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p>
<p>Links</p>
<p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ritu--kapoor/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Connect with Ritu on LinkedIn</a></p>
<p>About Remarkable!</p>
<p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p>
<p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p>
<p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Standards shape industries, but tastemakers decide what those standards are.</p>
<p>That’s the real lesson from <i>The Devil Wears Prada</i>. What looks like a simple workplace story is really about judgment, brand influence, and how standards shape decisions for years. In this episode, we break down the marketing lessons behind the film with the help of our special guest Ritu Kapoor, Fractional CMO & Ex-CMO at Observe.AI.</p>
<p>Together, we explore what B2B leaders can learn about the power of taste, the long arc of brand influence, and knowing when to break the right rules.</p>
<p>About our guest, Ritu Kapoor</p>
<p>Ritu Kapoor is a Fractional CMO and Ex-CMO at <a href="http://observe.ai" rel="noopener noreferrer">Observe.AI</a>. In her previous role at Observe.AI, she led brand, product marketing, and go-to-market strategy for AI agents transforming customer service. At Observe.AI, she was building a modern GTM engine for the AI-first enterprise, driving a repeatable demand-generation motion, launching next-generation agentic AI products, and leading a comprehensive corporate rebrand that reflected the company’s expanded mission and rapid customer adoption.</p>
<p>Previously, Ritu served as Chief Marketing Officer at Productboard, the product management platform used by teams around the world to build customer-informed products. She led global marketing functions that helped product and engineering teams better align around customer needs and business outcomes.</p>
<p>Across her career, Ritu has driven both organic and inorganic growth; shaped product roadmaps and narratives; built scalable global marketing and customer success functions across EMEA, APAC, and the U.S.; and created operational efficiencies that accelerated sales velocity, improved deal sizes, and enabled faster enterprise launches.</p>
<p>She is proud to have built and led high-performing global teams and successfully launched more than 30 enterprise products and platforms, including ten first-generation offerings, four acquisitions, and five new software categories.</p>
<p>What B2B Companies Can Learn From <i>The Devil Wears Prada</i>:</p>
<ul>
 <li>Taste is the real moat. In <i>The Devil Wears Prada</i>, Miranda’s authority didn’t solely come from her position at Runway. As Ritu explains, “Her influence isn't from authority. Her influence is from judgment.” The same applies in B2B marketing. The best marketers aren’t just executing playbooks, they’re deciding what’s worth attention and what isn’t. In a world where AI can generate endless content, the real advantage is taste: knowing what’s actually good, what’s differentiated, and what deserves investment.</li>
 <li>Brand influence starts long before the buying moment. The famous blue sweater scene captures a core truth about marketing: decisions are shaped long before someone thinks they’re making them. Ritu frames it directly for B2B: “You can't influence somebody when they're just about to buy. The influence starts years later.” By the time a buyer enters the market, their mental shortlist already exists. That’s why brand work (content, storytelling, and consistent presence) creates leverage long before the sales cycle begins.</li>
 <li>Break one rule and commit fully. Great marketing rarely comes from following every best practice. As Ritu puts it, “The magic really is to know which rule to break.” The key is conviction. The brands that stand out aren’t optimizing for average outcomes; they’re willing to take a focused leap.</li>
</ul>
<p>Quote</p>
<p>“ We've spent so much time creating hype that nobody trusts vendors anymore… We don't lead with honesty, and we've lost the biggest thing, which is buyer trust…  Pick one thing that builds the trust. You have to find that one anchor of trust, and you have to completely go to it.”</p>
<p>Time Stamps</p>
<p>[01:15] Meet Ritu Kapoor, Fractional CMO & Ex-CMO at Observe.AI</p>
<p>[01:57] Why <i>The Devil Wears Prada</i>?</p>
<p>[11:23] How to Pitch Your Vision</p>
<p>[21:19] The Story Behind <i>The Devil Wears Prada</i></p>
<p>[28:37] B2B Marketing Takeaways from <i>The Devil Wears Prada</i></p>
<p>[48:38] 2026 Content Strategy Tips</p>
<p>[50:28] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p>
<p>Links</p>
<p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ritu--kapoor/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Connect with Ritu on LinkedIn</a></p>
<p>About Remarkable!</p>
<p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p>
<p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p>
<p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Big launches happen all the time. Very few turn into movements.</p>
<p>That’s what makes the <i>Barbie </i>movie such a powerful case study. What could’ve been a simple movie launch turned into a full-blown cultural takeover. In this episode, we break down the marketing strategy behind it with the help of our special guest Rekha Srivatsan, SVP & CMO at Tableau.</p>
<p>Together, we explore what B2B leaders can learn from having a sharp point of view, building campaigns designed for participation, and letting brand impact and demand generation work side by side.</p>
<p>About our guest, Rekha Srivatsan</p>
<p>Proven product marketer with experience working in both large and small (but thinking "big"​) organizations. Winner's mentality, entrepreneurial spirit, and team player. Technical and creative skill set to execute with precision. Ability to conceptualize and execute in and outbound marketing programs and assets that directly impact the organization. </p>
<p>What B2B Companies Can Learn From <i>Barbie</i>:</p>
<ul>
 <li>Have a point of view and don’t apologize for it. Most B2B brands try to hedge. They sand down their sharp edges. They aim for consensus. Barbie did the opposite. As Rekha puts it: “Barbie did not try to please everyone.” That clarity is what made the campaign magnetic. In B2B, differentiation rarely comes from features. If your brand sounds like it was written by committee, it won’t move anyone. The brands that win take a stand, speak clearly, and accept that not everyone is the audience.</li>
 <li>Design for participation, not just promotion. Barbie didn’t just run ads. It became a movement. Rekha explains, “The Barbie audience, they aren't passive. Because they showed up really, really well. They showed up, dressed up, they posted.” That doesn’t happen by accident. It happens when you create something people want to join. In B2B, this means building campaigns your customers can step into. If your marketing is something people consume and forget, you’ve capped your impact. If it’s something they participate in, you’ve built a flywheel.</li>
 <li>Brand and demand are not opposites. Too many B2B teams treat brand and demand differently. <i>Barbie</i> proves that’s wrong. Rekha says it directly: “The brand and demand aren't opposites… This is such an emotional, playful storytelling that they had, and they created such a huge commercial impact because of that. To me, the best kind of marketing is when you do both.” The takeaway for B2B is simple: emotional storytelling is leverage. When you build a brand people feel something about, demand follows faster and scales further.</li>
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<p>Quote</p>
<p>“<i>Barbie</i> didn't just break through; it actually took over the conversation and made it so intentional and thoughtful.  And candidly, it was such a reminder for all of us in marketing about how our job is so important and how it can also be very, very fun when creativity and courage come together.”</p>
<p>Time Stamps</p>
<p>[01:15] Meet Rekha Srivatsan, SVP & CMO at Tableau</p>
<p>[02:14] Why <i>Barbie</i>? </p>
<p>[03:25] The Role of CMO at Tableau</p>
<p>[05:36] <i>Barbie</i> & the $150M Breadcrumb Campaign Explained</p>
<p>[10:27] B2B Marketing Takeaways from <i>Barbie</i></p>
<p>[43:13] Tips for Your 2026 Marketing Strategy</p>
<p>[44:33] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p>
<p>Links</p>
<p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rekhasrivatsan/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Connect with Rekha on LinkedIn</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.tableau.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Learn more about Tableau</a></p>
<p>About Remarkable!</p>
<p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p>
<p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p>
<p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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<p>Together, we explore what B2B leaders can learn from having a sharp point of view, building campaigns designed for participation, and letting brand impact and demand generation work side by side.</p>
<p>About our guest, Rekha Srivatsan</p>
<p>Proven product marketer with experience working in both large and small (but thinking "big"​) organizations. Winner's mentality, entrepreneurial spirit, and team player. Technical and creative skill set to execute with precision. Ability to conceptualize and execute in and outbound marketing programs and assets that directly impact the organization. </p>
<p>What B2B Companies Can Learn From <i>Barbie</i>:</p>
<ul>
 <li>Have a point of view and don’t apologize for it. Most B2B brands try to hedge. They sand down their sharp edges. They aim for consensus. Barbie did the opposite. As Rekha puts it: “Barbie did not try to please everyone.” That clarity is what made the campaign magnetic. In B2B, differentiation rarely comes from features. If your brand sounds like it was written by committee, it won’t move anyone. The brands that win take a stand, speak clearly, and accept that not everyone is the audience.</li>
 <li>Design for participation, not just promotion. Barbie didn’t just run ads. It became a movement. Rekha explains, “The Barbie audience, they aren't passive. Because they showed up really, really well. They showed up, dressed up, they posted.” That doesn’t happen by accident. It happens when you create something people want to join. In B2B, this means building campaigns your customers can step into. If your marketing is something people consume and forget, you’ve capped your impact. If it’s something they participate in, you’ve built a flywheel.</li>
 <li>Brand and demand are not opposites. Too many B2B teams treat brand and demand differently. <i>Barbie</i> proves that’s wrong. Rekha says it directly: “The brand and demand aren't opposites… This is such an emotional, playful storytelling that they had, and they created such a huge commercial impact because of that. To me, the best kind of marketing is when you do both.” The takeaway for B2B is simple: emotional storytelling is leverage. When you build a brand people feel something about, demand follows faster and scales further.</li>
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<p>Quote</p>
<p>“<i>Barbie</i> didn't just break through; it actually took over the conversation and made it so intentional and thoughtful.  And candidly, it was such a reminder for all of us in marketing about how our job is so important and how it can also be very, very fun when creativity and courage come together.”</p>
<p>Time Stamps</p>
<p>[01:15] Meet Rekha Srivatsan, SVP & CMO at Tableau</p>
<p>[02:14] Why <i>Barbie</i>? </p>
<p>[03:25] The Role of CMO at Tableau</p>
<p>[05:36] <i>Barbie</i> & the $150M Breadcrumb Campaign Explained</p>
<p>[10:27] B2B Marketing Takeaways from <i>Barbie</i></p>
<p>[43:13] Tips for Your 2026 Marketing Strategy</p>
<p>[44:33] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p>
<p>Links</p>
<p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rekhasrivatsan/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Connect with Rekha on LinkedIn</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.tableau.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Learn more about Tableau</a></p>
<p>About Remarkable!</p>
<p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p>
<p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p>
<p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>It’s easy for B2B marketing to sound interchangeable.</p>
<p>That’s why Steve Jobs and Conrad Hilton are such compelling leaders to learn from. Behind Apple and Hilton is a disciplined approach to customer experience, brand consistency, and raising expectations instead of reacting to them. In this episode, we unpack the B2B marketing lessons behind two of the world’s most iconic brands with the help of our special guest Sharon Oddy, VP of Marketing & Communications at TNS.</p>
<p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from anchoring their positioning in customer experience, building trust through consistency, and delivering value buyers didn’t even realize they were missing.</p>
<p>About our guest, Sharon Oddy</p>
<p>Sharon Oddy is the VP of Marketing & Communications at TNS. She’s a marketing professional who understands the power of storytelling, the importance of a consistent narrative and the art of using it to inspire action. Sharon is an effective and talented communicator who makes the extraordinarily complex, comprehensible. She’s a versatile and decisive leader skilled at building high-performing teams and activating cross-functional collaboration to drive strategic growth, customer retention and acquisition globally.</p>
<p>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Steve Jobs + Conrad Hilton:</p>
<ul>
 <li>Customer obsession is the only real differentiator. Jobs and Hilton didn’t win because they had better marketing. They won because they cared more about the customer experience than anyone else. Sharon nails the mindset: “They listened and they observed in a way that put them in the shoe of the customer.” Jobs makes it the rule: “You've gotta start with the customer experience and work backwards to the technology.” The B2B takeaway is clear: if your marketing starts with what <i>you</i> want to sell instead of what your customer needs to feel, you’re already behind. The brands that win build from the buyer backward.</li>
 <li>Trust is built in the details. Hilton’s last words weren’t about expansion or revenue. They were: “Leave the shower curtain on the inside of the tub.” Jobs obsessed over design even when customers would never see it. Why? Because as Sharon puts it: “It's always about putting the customer first.” In B2B, this means your credibility lives in execution; consistent messaging, polished touchpoints, and an experience that feels dependable. Don’t let the small things create big doubt.</li>
 <li>The best marketers redefine demand. Customers can’t always tell you what they want, but great companies can see what they struggle with. Sharon explains, “Jobs was really good at looking at people and saying, what are they struggling with and how do I make that experience better? Because when I do and they taste it, they're never going back.” That’s the B2B lesson: don’t just market what exists, create the expectation for something better. The strongest marketing doesn’t follow the category. It changes what the category believes is possible.</li>
</ul>
<p>Quote</p>
<p>“  If you keep looking backwards and trying to copy instead of lead. That's [an] area of demise. You can't look back and be like, “What does everybody else do? What does everybody else think?” You just have to have confidence that you understand your audience. You understand where the puck is moving, and you're going to keep going forward.”</p>
<p>Time Stamps</p>
<p>[01:20] Meet Sharon Oddy, VP of Marketing & Communications at TNS</p>
<p>[01:27] Why Steve Jobs & Conrad Hilton?</p>
<p>[04:00] The Role of VP of Marketing & Communications at TNS</p>
<p>[06:25] Deep Dive: Steve Jobs and Conrad Hilton's Obsession with Details</p>
<p>[11:19] B2B Marketing Lessons from Jobs and Hilton</p>
<p>[47:45] Sharon's Marketing Strategy</p>
<p>[51:24] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p>
<p>Links</p>
<p><a href="http://linkedin.com/in/sharonoddy" rel="noopener noreferrer">Connect with Sharon on LinkedIn</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.tnsi.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">Learn more about TNS</a></p>
<p>About Remarkable!</p>
<p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p>
<p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p>
<p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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<p>That’s why Steve Jobs and Conrad Hilton are such compelling leaders to learn from. Behind Apple and Hilton is a disciplined approach to customer experience, brand consistency, and raising expectations instead of reacting to them. In this episode, we unpack the B2B marketing lessons behind two of the world’s most iconic brands with the help of our special guest Sharon Oddy, VP of Marketing & Communications at TNS.</p>
<p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from anchoring their positioning in customer experience, building trust through consistency, and delivering value buyers didn’t even realize they were missing.</p>
<p>About our guest, Sharon Oddy</p>
<p>Sharon Oddy is the VP of Marketing & Communications at TNS. She’s a marketing professional who understands the power of storytelling, the importance of a consistent narrative and the art of using it to inspire action. Sharon is an effective and talented communicator who makes the extraordinarily complex, comprehensible. She’s a versatile and decisive leader skilled at building high-performing teams and activating cross-functional collaboration to drive strategic growth, customer retention and acquisition globally.</p>
<p>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Steve Jobs + Conrad Hilton:</p>
<ul>
 <li>Customer obsession is the only real differentiator. Jobs and Hilton didn’t win because they had better marketing. They won because they cared more about the customer experience than anyone else. Sharon nails the mindset: “They listened and they observed in a way that put them in the shoe of the customer.” Jobs makes it the rule: “You've gotta start with the customer experience and work backwards to the technology.” The B2B takeaway is clear: if your marketing starts with what <i>you</i> want to sell instead of what your customer needs to feel, you’re already behind. The brands that win build from the buyer backward.</li>
 <li>Trust is built in the details. Hilton’s last words weren’t about expansion or revenue. They were: “Leave the shower curtain on the inside of the tub.” Jobs obsessed over design even when customers would never see it. Why? Because as Sharon puts it: “It's always about putting the customer first.” In B2B, this means your credibility lives in execution; consistent messaging, polished touchpoints, and an experience that feels dependable. Don’t let the small things create big doubt.</li>
 <li>The best marketers redefine demand. Customers can’t always tell you what they want, but great companies can see what they struggle with. Sharon explains, “Jobs was really good at looking at people and saying, what are they struggling with and how do I make that experience better? Because when I do and they taste it, they're never going back.” That’s the B2B lesson: don’t just market what exists, create the expectation for something better. The strongest marketing doesn’t follow the category. It changes what the category believes is possible.</li>
</ul>
<p>Quote</p>
<p>“  If you keep looking backwards and trying to copy instead of lead. That's [an] area of demise. You can't look back and be like, “What does everybody else do? What does everybody else think?” You just have to have confidence that you understand your audience. You understand where the puck is moving, and you're going to keep going forward.”</p>
<p>Time Stamps</p>
<p>[01:20] Meet Sharon Oddy, VP of Marketing & Communications at TNS</p>
<p>[01:27] Why Steve Jobs & Conrad Hilton?</p>
<p>[04:00] The Role of VP of Marketing & Communications at TNS</p>
<p>[06:25] Deep Dive: Steve Jobs and Conrad Hilton's Obsession with Details</p>
<p>[11:19] B2B Marketing Lessons from Jobs and Hilton</p>
<p>[47:45] Sharon's Marketing Strategy</p>
<p>[51:24] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p>
<p>Links</p>
<p><a href="http://linkedin.com/in/sharonoddy" rel="noopener noreferrer">Connect with Sharon on LinkedIn</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.tnsi.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">Learn more about TNS</a></p>
<p>About Remarkable!</p>
<p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p>
<p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p>
<p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Most B2B marketing fails for one simple reason: it forgets how persuasion actually works.</p><p>That’s why <i>Mad Men</i> still hits. Beneath the suits, pitches, and personal drama, it’s a masterclass in what actually moves people. In this episode, we break down its B2B marketing takeaways with the help of our special guest  Fahad Muhammad, Former VP of Marketing at TealBook.</p><p>Together, we explore why fundamentals matter more than tactics, why emotion drives demand, and how originality is the only real advantage left in modern B2B marketing.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Fahad Muhammad</strong></p><p>Fahad is a revenue-centric and data-driven marketing leader with 17 years of experience in strategic marketing at severalSaaS/Tech companies ranging from start-ups, SMBs to enterprise organizations. Specializing in demand creation and generation, he takes a data driven approach to identify unique growth opportunities in order to drive revenue and foster meaningful connections with customers. </p><p>He is a diehard college football fan (Sun Devil for life!) and attends ASU's homecoming game each fall. An avid reader, he loves to read with a cup of his favorite coffee in hand.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>Mad Men</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Anchor on positioning before you touch tactics.</strong> Fahad’s biggest takeaway from <i>Mad Men</i> is that modern B2B often skips the hard thinking and jumps straight to execution. The show strips marketing back to its core, and the lesson is uncomfortable in its simplicity. As he puts it, “This discipline is around three core things. It's about positioning, it's about having a very compelling piece of creative… and then the last piece is really understanding who your audience is.” The danger for B2B teams is mistaking activity for strategy. If positioning is fuzzy, no amount of optimization will save it. Get the foundation right first, or everything else is just noise.</li><li><strong>Emotion is the real differentiator.</strong> Fahad makes it clear that cutting through the noise is about resonance. He says, “Something that does speak to us, no matter what medium [it’s in], is always going to cut through the noise.” <i>Mad Men </i>works because it understands human psychology hasn’t changed, even if the channels have. For B2B marketers, the lesson is simple: logic might justify the purchase, but emotion earns attention. 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Are you really thinking [that] this is going to cut through the noise and is it going to move people?”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Fahad Muhammad, Former VP of Marketing at TealBook</p><p>[01:37] Why <i>Mad Men</i>?</p><p>[04:28] Role of VP of Marketing at TealBook</p><p>[05:20] Behind-the-Scenes of <i>Mad Men</i></p><p>[09:21] B2B Marketing Takeaways from <i>Mad Men</i></p><p>[32:08] The Role of AI in Marketing</p><p>[42:43] How to Connect Content to Your Marketing Strategy</p><p>[45:44] Advice for First-Time VPs of Marketing</p><p>[47:19] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/fahadmuhammad/?originalSubdomain=ca">Connect with Fahad on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://tealbook.com/">Learn more about TealBook</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Some of the most powerful ideas in marketing don’t come from marketing at all. They come from stories that refuse to play it safe.</p><p>That’s the lesson of <i>Dune</i>, the sci-fi epic once considered unfilmable and now one of the most successful franchises of the decade. In this episode, we break down its marketing lessons with the help of our special guest Madhav Bhandari, Head of Marketing at Storylane.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from world-building, pattern interruptions, and betting on emerging talent.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Madhav Bhandari</strong></p><p>Madhav Bhandari is the Head of Marketing at Storylane. He’s a a B2B marketer with 12+ years of experience helping startups grow from scrappy beginnings ($2M+ ARR) to category leadership ($20M+ ARR and beyond). Madhav built lean, high-performing marketing engines across both PLG / sales-led companies. His strength and philosophy is doing marketing that stands out. I focus on work that drives action and ties directly to pipeline.</p><p>Madhav has helped many scale-ups grow beyond $10M ARR, either as a full-time leader or a hands-on advisor. I love taking on this challenge.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>Dune</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Show the product, don’t narrate it. </strong>Madhav’s first lesson from <i>Dune</i> is about restraint. The film works because it removes exposition and lets the audience experience the world firsthand. He draws a direct parallel to B2B marketing, saying, “ You've seen the B2B website homepages that are just full of jargon.  And I think now is the time to actually show the product.” Too many B2B teams rely on jargon, stock imagery, and abstract claims, forcing buyers to imagine value. The takeaway is simple: remove the guesswork. Interactive demos, real visuals, and tangible experiences outperform explanations every time. If buyers have to imagine what your product does, you’ve already added friction.</li><li><strong>Go where the work is unpopular but important.</strong> In <i>Dune</i>, the most valuable resource in the universe lives in the most unremarkable place. Madhav says, “ Unpopular but important projects, that’s where the largest customer growth lies.” In marketing, that means resisting the pull of flashy homepage redesigns and brand exercises when the real leverage sits deeper, product pages, conversion paths, and messy parts of the funnel no one wants to own. If everyone wants to work on it, it’s probably already optimized. The real upside lives where attention is scarce.</li><li><strong>Bet on emerging voices, not just famous ones.</strong> <i>Dune </i>didn’t rely on a single A-list star to succeed, and Madhav has seen the same dynamic play out in B2B. His experience is clear: “ anytime I've gone with… a very popular influencer… that I interviewed, those episodes the way I thought they would perform, didn't really perform that well. Bu what’s funny is that the people that are relatively unpopular but have done incredible work are the episodes that did fantastic.” Big names feel safe, but they’re expensive and often underdeliver. Audiences respond more to sharp thinking and real experience than borrowed fame. In B2B, the fastest way to build trust is to help your audience discover someone worth listening to, before everyone else does.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>“ Today, in our world, sameness is risky… The worst that could happen … is it's gonna perform the same as if you would've not done that, and the best case scenario is it’s just gonna do insanely well.” </p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[01:03] Meet Madhav Bhandari, Head of Marketing at Storylane</p><p>01:08 Why Dune?</p><p>01:51 Role of Head of Marketing at Storylane</p><p>02:37 Breaking Down Dune</p><p>10:53 B2B Marketing Takeaways from Dune</p><p>25:18 Influencer Campaign Strategies</p><p>28:28 The Power of Brand Awareness</p><p>31:12 Storylane's Marketing Strategy</p><p>35:08 Creative Marketing Examples</p><p>38:37 Content Strategy and Founder Branding</p><p>45:25 Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/madhavbhandari/">Connect with Madhav on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.storylane.io/">Learn more about Storylane</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the most powerful ideas in marketing don’t come from marketing at all. They come from stories that refuse to play it safe.</p><p>That’s the lesson of <i>Dune</i>, the sci-fi epic once considered unfilmable and now one of the most successful franchises of the decade. In this episode, we break down its marketing lessons with the help of our special guest Madhav Bhandari, Head of Marketing at Storylane.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from world-building, pattern interruptions, and betting on emerging talent.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Madhav Bhandari</strong></p><p>Madhav Bhandari is the Head of Marketing at Storylane. He’s a a B2B marketer with 12+ years of experience helping startups grow from scrappy beginnings ($2M+ ARR) to category leadership ($20M+ ARR and beyond). Madhav built lean, high-performing marketing engines across both PLG / sales-led companies. 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Interactive demos, real visuals, and tangible experiences outperform explanations every time. If buyers have to imagine what your product does, you’ve already added friction.</li><li><strong>Go where the work is unpopular but important.</strong> In <i>Dune</i>, the most valuable resource in the universe lives in the most unremarkable place. Madhav says, “ Unpopular but important projects, that’s where the largest customer growth lies.” In marketing, that means resisting the pull of flashy homepage redesigns and brand exercises when the real leverage sits deeper, product pages, conversion paths, and messy parts of the funnel no one wants to own. If everyone wants to work on it, it’s probably already optimized. The real upside lives where attention is scarce.</li><li><strong>Bet on emerging voices, not just famous ones.</strong> <i>Dune </i>didn’t rely on a single A-list star to succeed, and Madhav has seen the same dynamic play out in B2B. 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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Everybody talks about creativity, but very few are willing to measure it. The real advantage comes from combining imagination with obsession.</p><p>That’s the lesson of MrBeast, the YouTube creator who turned data-driven storytelling into one of the most powerful media brands in the world. In this episode, we explore his marketing playbook with the help of our special guest Rodrigo Fontes, VP of Marketing at QuillBot.</p><p>Together, we break down what B2B marketers can learn from engineering audience retention, building repeatable content formats, and investing just a little more effort to create work people can’t look away from.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Rodrigo Fontes</strong></p><p>Rodrigo Fonte is the VP of Marketing at QuillBot. He is a strategic marketing leader with over 15 years of experience building and scaling brands across both B2C and B2B markets. Rodrigo is currently driving growth in Generative AI and consumer tech at QuillBot (Learneo). He’s also leading the global marketing organization behind one of the world’s most widely used AI writing assistants, overseeing Brand, Media, Influencers, Social, SEO, ASO, Content, Product Marketing, and International Expansion.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From MrBeast:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Obsess over audience retention, not just reach. </strong>MrBeast doesn’t just aim for views, he studies exactly where attention drops and rebuilds content accordingly. Rodrigo says, “His data-driven customer obsession on every detail to make things work, I think that’s such an amazing thing for us marketers today to think [about].” B2B teams should move beyond impressions and focus on where prospects lose interest and why. Analyze content the same way you analyze funnels. Retention is the real signal of relevance.</li><li><strong>Show people something they’ve never seen before. </strong>Originality is MrBeast’s core advantage. He doesn’t just execute well, he starts with ideas audiences haven’t encountered. Rodrigo reminds us, “The fight for attention is brutal today.” If your content looks like your competitors’, it’s already invisible. Massive budgets aren’t required to execute original ideas, as MrBeast proved in his early viral videos. Novelty is a priceless strategic asset.</li><li><strong>Use culture as a creative multiplier.</strong> MrBeast often revamps formats by tapping into existing cultural moments (e.g., Squid Game, Willy Wonka). Rodrigo points out, “He can really revamp a format if he adds culture to [it].” B2B strategy doesn’t have to reinvent the wheel. Tie your ideas to what your audience already cares about instead of forcing attention from scratch.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>“ Go deeper on what really, already has the attention of your target audience, instead of starting from scratch. What are they paying attention to already?”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[01:03] Meet Rodrigo Fontes, VP of Marketing at QuillBot</p><p>[02:13] Why MrBeast?</p><p>[09:07] Why His Content Works</p><p>[16:58] The Power of Effort and Originality</p><p>[22:05] Repeatable Formats and Serialized Content</p><p>[29:20] Lessons from Branded Content and Influencers</p><p>[42:45] QuillBot’s Content Strategy</p><p>[47:56] Advice for Marketing Leaders</p><p>[51:12] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rodrigofontes">Connect with Rodrigo on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="http://quillbot.com">Learn more about QuillBot</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2026 08:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Caspian Studios)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everybody talks about creativity, but very few are willing to measure it. The real advantage comes from combining imagination with obsession.</p><p>That’s the lesson of MrBeast, the YouTube creator who turned data-driven storytelling into one of the most powerful media brands in the world. In this episode, we explore his marketing playbook with the help of our special guest Rodrigo Fontes, VP of Marketing at QuillBot.</p><p>Together, we break down what B2B marketers can learn from engineering audience retention, building repeatable content formats, and investing just a little more effort to create work people can’t look away from.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Rodrigo Fontes</strong></p><p>Rodrigo Fonte is the VP of Marketing at QuillBot. He is a strategic marketing leader with over 15 years of experience building and scaling brands across both B2C and B2B markets. Rodrigo is currently driving growth in Generative AI and consumer tech at QuillBot (Learneo). He’s also leading the global marketing organization behind one of the world’s most widely used AI writing assistants, overseeing Brand, Media, Influencers, Social, SEO, ASO, Content, Product Marketing, and International Expansion.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From MrBeast:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Obsess over audience retention, not just reach. </strong>MrBeast doesn’t just aim for views, he studies exactly where attention drops and rebuilds content accordingly. Rodrigo says, “His data-driven customer obsession on every detail to make things work, I think that’s such an amazing thing for us marketers today to think [about].” B2B teams should move beyond impressions and focus on where prospects lose interest and why. Analyze content the same way you analyze funnels. Retention is the real signal of relevance.</li><li><strong>Show people something they’ve never seen before. </strong>Originality is MrBeast’s core advantage. He doesn’t just execute well, he starts with ideas audiences haven’t encountered. Rodrigo reminds us, “The fight for attention is brutal today.” If your content looks like your competitors’, it’s already invisible. Massive budgets aren’t required to execute original ideas, as MrBeast proved in his early viral videos. Novelty is a priceless strategic asset.</li><li><strong>Use culture as a creative multiplier.</strong> MrBeast often revamps formats by tapping into existing cultural moments (e.g., Squid Game, Willy Wonka). Rodrigo points out, “He can really revamp a format if he adds culture to [it].” B2B strategy doesn’t have to reinvent the wheel. Tie your ideas to what your audience already cares about instead of forcing attention from scratch.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>“ Go deeper on what really, already has the attention of your target audience, instead of starting from scratch. What are they paying attention to already?”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[01:03] Meet Rodrigo Fontes, VP of Marketing at QuillBot</p><p>[02:13] Why MrBeast?</p><p>[09:07] Why His Content Works</p><p>[16:58] The Power of Effort and Originality</p><p>[22:05] Repeatable Formats and Serialized Content</p><p>[29:20] Lessons from Branded Content and Influencers</p><p>[42:45] QuillBot’s Content Strategy</p><p>[47:56] Advice for Marketing Leaders</p><p>[51:12] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rodrigofontes">Connect with Rodrigo on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="http://quillbot.com">Learn more about QuillBot</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Reality TV isn’t just weekend entertainment. It’s a blueprint for brand building.</p><p>That’s the lesson of <i>Summer House</i>, Bravo’s long-running hit that turns everyday interactions into year-round engagement. In this episode, we break down its marketing lessons with the help of our special guest Kelly Cheng, Chief Marketing Officer at Goldcast.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from playing the long game with their audience, making marketing more human by building in public, and creating a steady stream of content that keeps you top of mind long after the season ends.</p><p>About our guest, Kelly Cheng</p><p>Kelly Cheng is a seasoned marketing executive with over a decade of experience driving growth and leading successful marketing strategies for high-performing technology companies. As the Chief Marketing Officer at Goldcast, she is responsible for spearheading the company's global marketing initiatives, including brand development, demand generation, and digital marketing.</p><p>Prior to her current role, Kelly served as the VP of Marketing at Goldcast, where she played a pivotal role in the company's successful rebrand and the implementation of a data-driven marketing approach. Before joining Goldcast, she held marketing leadership positions at Wistia and Dynatrace, where she demonstrated her expertise in growth marketing, media optimization, and digital acquisition strategies. Kelly's diverse background also includes experience in media planning and digital marketing at PagerDuty and Havas Media Group.</p><p>Kelly holds a Bachelor of Arts degree in Communications from Boston University, where she graduated cum laude and was recognized for her academic excellence.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>Summer House</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Build long-term relationships with your audience. </strong>Reality TV wins through continuity. Keeping familiar faces and building trust season after season. Kelly explains, “The continuity piece is really important. Throughout the nine seasons, there's a lot of OGs that have been around since season one, and you really, really build that rapport with the audience, and people are super invested in what you do next.” In B2B, the same applies. Consistency and ongoing storytelling help audiences feel emotionally connected, not just informed. Your series or campaign shouldn’t end when engagement dips. It should evolve, deepen, and reward loyalty.</li><li><strong>Build in public.</strong> Kelly draws a parallel between following a cast across nine seasons and showing your brand’s journey transparently. “You’re following on for nine years, learning about their development over time... It’s kind of like building in public…I could just put up a show and say watch me learn about AI in marketing and watch me win and watch me fail.” B2B marketers can use this approach to humanize their brand: sharing learnings, experiments, and even missteps. The more your audience sees your process, the more invested they become in your success.</li><li><strong>Capture year-round mindshare through consistent content. </strong>Bravo doesn’t just rely on one show. They have built an ecosystem that keeps fans engaged across formats and seasons. Kelly notes, “They’re just really, really good at turning out content that people want to consume to keep them top of mind… There’s an extra 10 months that you have to make sure that you have got air cover so people don’t forget about you.” The lesson: don’t go dark between campaigns. Extend your reach with follow-up content, micro-clips, events, and spin-offs. Sustained storytelling turns fleeting interest into durable brand awareness.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>“I think there’s a lot of learning in making B2B marketing a bit more human and drawing those learnings from reality TV about building in public. Because at the end of the day, you’re selling software to help an individual that will ultimately help an organization.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Kelly Cheng, Chief Marketing Officer at Goldcast</p><p>[01:08] Why Summer House?</p><p>[07:13] What is Summer House?</p><p>[17:37] B2B Marketing Takeaways from Summer House</p><p>[36:43] Goldcast's Approach to Marketing</p><p>[42:28] Goldcasts' Upcoming Agent Launches</p><p>[43:29] Advice for CMOs</p><p>[44:25] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellyhcheng/">Connect with Kelly on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="http://www.goldcast.io">Learn more about Goldcast</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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As the Chief Marketing Officer at Goldcast, she is responsible for spearheading the company's global marketing initiatives, including brand development, demand generation, and digital marketing.</p><p>Prior to her current role, Kelly served as the VP of Marketing at Goldcast, where she played a pivotal role in the company's successful rebrand and the implementation of a data-driven marketing approach. Before joining Goldcast, she held marketing leadership positions at Wistia and Dynatrace, where she demonstrated her expertise in growth marketing, media optimization, and digital acquisition strategies. 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Your series or campaign shouldn’t end when engagement dips. It should evolve, deepen, and reward loyalty.</li><li><strong>Build in public.</strong> Kelly draws a parallel between following a cast across nine seasons and showing your brand’s journey transparently. “You’re following on for nine years, learning about their development over time... It’s kind of like building in public…I could just put up a show and say watch me learn about AI in marketing and watch me win and watch me fail.” B2B marketers can use this approach to humanize their brand: sharing learnings, experiments, and even missteps. The more your audience sees your process, the more invested they become in your success.</li><li><strong>Capture year-round mindshare through consistent content. </strong>Bravo doesn’t just rely on one show. They have built an ecosystem that keeps fans engaged across formats and seasons. Kelly notes, “They’re just really, really good at turning out content that people want to consume to keep them top of mind… There’s an extra 10 months that you have to make sure that you have got air cover so people don’t forget about you.” The lesson: don’t go dark between campaigns. Extend your reach with follow-up content, micro-clips, events, and spin-offs. Sustained storytelling turns fleeting interest into durable brand awareness.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>“I think there’s a lot of learning in making B2B marketing a bit more human and drawing those learnings from reality TV about building in public. Because at the end of the day, you’re selling software to help an individual that will ultimately help an organization.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Kelly Cheng, Chief Marketing Officer at Goldcast</p><p>[01:08] Why Summer House?</p><p>[07:13] What is Summer House?</p><p>[17:37] B2B Marketing Takeaways from Summer House</p><p>[36:43] Goldcast's Approach to Marketing</p><p>[42:28] Goldcasts' Upcoming Agent Launches</p><p>[43:29] Advice for CMOs</p><p>[44:25] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellyhcheng/">Connect with Kelly on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="http://www.goldcast.io">Learn more about Goldcast</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Every marketer wants to create a campaign that cuts through, but most B2B brands try to do it with more spend, more channels, and more polish. The real lever is simpler: say something people actually feel.</p><p>That’s the lesson of Oura Ring’s ‘Give Us a Finger,’ a campaign that nailed cultural timing, sharp copy, and product-specific boldness without losing its soul. In this episode, we explore its B2B marketing takeaways with the help of our special guest Sylvia LePoidevin, CMO & Creator of The Zero to One Marketer.</p><p>Together, we break down what B2B marketers can learn from making your copy the multiplier, leading with tension, and turning cultural insight into measurable demand.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Sylvia LePoidevin</strong></p><p>Sylvia LePoidevin is a B2B SaaS marketing leader who has gone from the first marketing hire to CMO at two companies now valued over $2 billion combined. </p><p>Most recently, Sylvia was the CMO at Kandji. She joined as employee #4 and helped scale the company from pre-seed to an $850M valuation with global offices across the US, London, Sydney, and Tokyo. A former early hire at DataFox (acquired by Oracle’s AI group) and FloQast (now valued at $1.6B), Sylvia has spent her career building go-to-market engines from zero, often without playbooks, resources, or precedent. </p><p>Her passion is helping founders and scaling teams build with the buyer first, using messaging, content, and community as multipliers for growth. Raised in remote Africa before moving to the US alone at 17, Sylvia credits her resilience and outsider perspective as her greatest assets in navigating zero-to-one challenges in both life and business.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Oura Ring’s ‘Give Us the Finger’ Campaign:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Make your copy the multiplier, not the footnote. </strong>Sylvia’s first lesson from ‘Give Us a Finger; is that the words are the performance channel. She says, “You think so much about the budget and the metrics, but if you put half as much of that effort into just like what the freaking copy is saying, that can change the unit economics of your whole campaign more than anything.” Oura didn’t win because they spent more, they won because the headline is sticky, visual, and instantly understandable. In B2B, it should be the same. Before you tune targeting or add spend, pressure-test the message. One sharp line that people repeat will outperform five “optimized” versions nobody remembers.</li><li><strong>Lead with tension. </strong>What makes this campaign work, in Sylvia’s eyes, is that it taps a real, shared feeling in the market. She grounds it in one clear idea: “The whole concept of ‘Give Us the Finger’ is sort of an act of defiance against aging.” That’s why it resonates beyond the cult fans. It’s selling an attitude, not a tracker. For B2B marketers, the move is to find the tension your buyers already live in and build the campaign around that. When the audience feels seen first, the product lands as the natural weapon.</li><li><strong>Keep the wrinkles in your writing.</strong> Sylvia loves this campaign because it doesn’t feel sanded down into safe brand mush. Her takeaway is blunt: “ AI takes the wrinkles out of your writing… People are now looking for the wrinkles because it shows that it's real.” Oura’s creative has an edge, personality, and a little defiance, which is exactly why it sticks. In B2B, where everything tends to sound committee-approved, the fastest way to disappear is to over-smooth. Let your voice have texture. Keep the sharp edges that make your brand human. That’s what people notice, trust, and remember.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>“ 95% of your buyer is not in market at any moment, only 5% is. And it's very lucrative and tempting to pour all of your resources into that 5% and try to capture the existing demand. But eventually it's going to cap out. And to really achieve that hockey stick, long-term growth, you need to invest in the 95%.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Sylvia LePoidevin, CMO & Creator of The Zero to One Marketer</p><p>[01:26] Why Oura Ring’s “Give Us the Finger” Campaign?</p><p>[04:32] Sylvia’s Career Journey in Content Marketing</p><p>[05:47] Inside the Strategy Behind Oura Ring’s ‘Give Us the Finger’ </p><p>[10:52] B2B Marketing Takeaways from Oura Ring’s ‘Give Us the Finger’ Campaign</p><p>[26:48] A Content Marketing Playbook for First-Time CMOs</p><p>[31:47] Modern Marketing Strategies That Actually Work</p><p>[40:26] The Hidden Power of Internal Influencers</p><p>[43:55] AI in Content Creation: What to Use, What to Avoid</p><p>[49:29] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sylvialepoidevin/">Connect with Sylvia on LinkedIn</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Sylvia LePoidevin, Ian Faison, Meredith Gooderham)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every marketer wants to create a campaign that cuts through, but most B2B brands try to do it with more spend, more channels, and more polish. The real lever is simpler: say something people actually feel.</p><p>That’s the lesson of Oura Ring’s ‘Give Us a Finger,’ a campaign that nailed cultural timing, sharp copy, and product-specific boldness without losing its soul. In this episode, we explore its B2B marketing takeaways with the help of our special guest Sylvia LePoidevin, CMO & Creator of The Zero to One Marketer.</p><p>Together, we break down what B2B marketers can learn from making your copy the multiplier, leading with tension, and turning cultural insight into measurable demand.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Sylvia LePoidevin</strong></p><p>Sylvia LePoidevin is a B2B SaaS marketing leader who has gone from the first marketing hire to CMO at two companies now valued over $2 billion combined. </p><p>Most recently, Sylvia was the CMO at Kandji. She joined as employee #4 and helped scale the company from pre-seed to an $850M valuation with global offices across the US, London, Sydney, and Tokyo. A former early hire at DataFox (acquired by Oracle’s AI group) and FloQast (now valued at $1.6B), Sylvia has spent her career building go-to-market engines from zero, often without playbooks, resources, or precedent. </p><p>Her passion is helping founders and scaling teams build with the buyer first, using messaging, content, and community as multipliers for growth. Raised in remote Africa before moving to the US alone at 17, Sylvia credits her resilience and outsider perspective as her greatest assets in navigating zero-to-one challenges in both life and business.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Oura Ring’s ‘Give Us the Finger’ Campaign:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Make your copy the multiplier, not the footnote. </strong>Sylvia’s first lesson from ‘Give Us a Finger; is that the words are the performance channel. She says, “You think so much about the budget and the metrics, but if you put half as much of that effort into just like what the freaking copy is saying, that can change the unit economics of your whole campaign more than anything.” Oura didn’t win because they spent more, they won because the headline is sticky, visual, and instantly understandable. In B2B, it should be the same. Before you tune targeting or add spend, pressure-test the message. One sharp line that people repeat will outperform five “optimized” versions nobody remembers.</li><li><strong>Lead with tension. </strong>What makes this campaign work, in Sylvia’s eyes, is that it taps a real, shared feeling in the market. She grounds it in one clear idea: “The whole concept of ‘Give Us the Finger’ is sort of an act of defiance against aging.” That’s why it resonates beyond the cult fans. It’s selling an attitude, not a tracker. For B2B marketers, the move is to find the tension your buyers already live in and build the campaign around that. When the audience feels seen first, the product lands as the natural weapon.</li><li><strong>Keep the wrinkles in your writing.</strong> Sylvia loves this campaign because it doesn’t feel sanded down into safe brand mush. Her takeaway is blunt: “ AI takes the wrinkles out of your writing… People are now looking for the wrinkles because it shows that it's real.” Oura’s creative has an edge, personality, and a little defiance, which is exactly why it sticks. In B2B, where everything tends to sound committee-approved, the fastest way to disappear is to over-smooth. Let your voice have texture. Keep the sharp edges that make your brand human. That’s what people notice, trust, and remember.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>“ 95% of your buyer is not in market at any moment, only 5% is. And it's very lucrative and tempting to pour all of your resources into that 5% and try to capture the existing demand. But eventually it's going to cap out. And to really achieve that hockey stick, long-term growth, you need to invest in the 95%.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Sylvia LePoidevin, CMO & Creator of The Zero to One Marketer</p><p>[01:26] Why Oura Ring’s “Give Us the Finger” Campaign?</p><p>[04:32] Sylvia’s Career Journey in Content Marketing</p><p>[05:47] Inside the Strategy Behind Oura Ring’s ‘Give Us the Finger’ </p><p>[10:52] B2B Marketing Takeaways from Oura Ring’s ‘Give Us the Finger’ Campaign</p><p>[26:48] A Content Marketing Playbook for First-Time CMOs</p><p>[31:47] Modern Marketing Strategies That Actually Work</p><p>[40:26] The Hidden Power of Internal Influencers</p><p>[43:55] AI in Content Creation: What to Use, What to Avoid</p><p>[49:29] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sylvialepoidevin/">Connect with Sylvia on LinkedIn</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Emily Kramer, founder of MKT1 and a longtime voice in modern B2B marketing, joins Ian Faison to unpack how AI is reshaping marketing teams, roles, and expectations.</p><p>They explore Emily’s concept of the “gen marketer”,  and why traditional silos and specialist-heavy teams struggle in today’s high-velocity environment.</p><p>Key Takeaways</p><ul><li>Marketing teams need more generalists who can connect strategy, creativity, and distribution.</li><li>Speed to execution matters more than perfect alignment across functions.</li><li>Big marketing wins come from coordinated campaigns, not isolated tactics.</li><li>AI increases the value of orchestration and taste, not specialization alone.</li><li>Marketing leaders should think in portfolios of bets, not incremental activities.</li></ul><p>Quote</p><p>“Every big initiative needs to have a chance to really win — not just deliver incremental results.”</p><p>Episode Timestamps</p><p>(03:51) What the “Gen Marketer” role actually means</p><p>(10:04) Why speed matters more than perfect alignment</p><p>(16:42) Escaping random acts of marketing with big bets</p><p>(24:58) How CMOs should think like producers or VCs</p><p>(31:37) When founder-led marketing works (and when it doesn’t)</p><p>Sponsor</p><p>Pipeline Visionaries is brought to you by Qualified.com — the pipeline generation platform for revenue teams.<br />Turn your website into a pipeline machine with PipelineAI. Engage and convert your most valuable visitors with live chat, chatbots, meeting scheduling, and intent data.<br />Visit Qualified.com to learn more.</p><p>Links</p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ianfaison/">Connect with Ian on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/emilykramer/">Connect with Emily Kramer on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://newsletter.mkt1.co/s/dear-marketers">Dear Marketers Podcast </a></p><p><a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJ4azuIWSuMrKToPFUN4N4lQURNYeHwnC&si=NwT7-sgxkLqLSHdU">MKT1 Unboxing</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/mkt1/about/">Learn more about MKT1</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ianfaison/">Learn more about Caspian Studios</a></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily Kramer, founder of MKT1 and a longtime voice in modern B2B marketing, joins Ian Faison to unpack how AI is reshaping marketing teams, roles, and expectations.</p><p>They explore Emily’s concept of the “gen marketer”,  and why traditional silos and specialist-heavy teams struggle in today’s high-velocity environment.</p><p>Key Takeaways</p><ul><li>Marketing teams need more generalists who can connect strategy, creativity, and distribution.</li><li>Speed to execution matters more than perfect alignment across functions.</li><li>Big marketing wins come from coordinated campaigns, not isolated tactics.</li><li>AI increases the value of orchestration and taste, not specialization alone.</li><li>Marketing leaders should think in portfolios of bets, not incremental activities.</li></ul><p>Quote</p><p>“Every big initiative needs to have a chance to really win — not just deliver incremental results.”</p><p>Episode Timestamps</p><p>(03:51) What the “Gen Marketer” role actually means</p><p>(10:04) Why speed matters more than perfect alignment</p><p>(16:42) Escaping random acts of marketing with big bets</p><p>(24:58) How CMOs should think like producers or VCs</p><p>(31:37) When founder-led marketing works (and when it doesn’t)</p><p>Sponsor</p><p>Pipeline Visionaries is brought to you by Qualified.com — the pipeline generation platform for revenue teams.<br />Turn your website into a pipeline machine with PipelineAI. Engage and convert your most valuable visitors with live chat, chatbots, meeting scheduling, and intent data.<br />Visit Qualified.com to learn more.</p><p>Links</p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ianfaison/">Connect with Ian on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/emilykramer/">Connect with Emily Kramer on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://newsletter.mkt1.co/s/dear-marketers">Dear Marketers Podcast </a></p><p><a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJ4azuIWSuMrKToPFUN4N4lQURNYeHwnC&si=NwT7-sgxkLqLSHdU">MKT1 Unboxing</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/mkt1/about/">Learn more about MKT1</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ianfaison/">Learn more about Caspian Studios</a></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Most B2B brands think growth comes from turning everything up: more campaigns, more hustle, more competitive swagger. But the brands people actually follow know when to slow down, tune out the noise, and get real.</p><p>That’s the unexpected lesson of <i>KPop Demon Hunters</i>, a movie that uses K-pop stardom, rivalry, and emotional honesty to show what makes an audience stay loyal. In this episode, we break down his marketing lessons with the help of our special guest Ray Lin, Fractional Head of Marketing.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from pacing for quality, standing for something bigger than the rivalry, and making vulnerability a trust engine that drives demand.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Ray Lin</strong></p><p>Ray Lin is a mission-driven marketing leader who turns messy funnels into clean revenue. Over 13+ years across SaaS, marketplaces, and wellness tech, he’s built demand gen and ABM machines that actually align with sales—and he’s unapologetically pro-AI when it lifts both creativity and efficiency.</p><p>A Bay Area native and former sports writer turned “accidental but strategic marketer,” Ray believes great marketing is H2H—human to human—before it’s ever B2B. He’s led and rolled up his sleeves across demand gen, digital, ABM, field, performance, growth, content, product marketing, and lifecycle CRM, with 8+ years inside B2B2C marketplaces like Grubhub, Wellhub and SeatGeek.</p><p>If your pipeline’s leaky, your teams are siloed, or “content” isn’t moving deals, Ray’s the marketing leader who fixes the system, centers the customer, and gets momentum back on the scoreboard.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>KPop Demon Hunters</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Work smarter, not harder.</strong> KPop Demon Hunters shows that momentum dies when you confuse output with impact. Ray pulls a direct B2B parallel: “one of the lessons that come from <i>Golden</i> is working smarter, not harder… [Marketers] a lot think that extra 10 attempts at ad creative or 10 extra emails that you queue up in your CRM are gonna make all the difference. When in reality, it’s about quality, not quantity.” For B2B, this movie is your warning label: speed without intention burns out the team and blurs the story. Make fewer bets, make them sharper, and give your work room to land.</li><li><strong>Compete with conviction, not contempt.</strong> The movie’s diss track, Takedown, is a trap: when your identity becomes anti-them, you shrink your own story. Ray says it plainly: “Don’t let competitive obsession poison your well.” The point isn’t to never compete, it’s how you compete. If your positioning is mostly about your rival, you’ve already let them write your narrative. Lead with what you stand for, and you won’t need a villain to feel heroic.</li><li><strong>Let vulnerability be your differentiator. </strong>The movie’s emotional turn lands because the heroes stop performing perfection and start telling the truth. That’s the B2B move too: honesty travels farther than polish. Ray says, “ The power of vulnerability and transparency… can really skyrocket a B2B brand.” In B2B, authenticity isn’t a vibe, it’s a trust engine. Build a brand worth believing in.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>“Always be ready. You don't know what's gonna be a hit and what's not going to. And when it does happen, know how to capitalize on it. And the multiple prongs, the octopus of this behemoth that is <i>KPop Demon Hunters</i>, I think, is that it has all these tentacles… [and] is what makes it so powerful. You can't plan for the success of one tentacle without thinking at least about the others.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Ray Lin, Fractional Head of Marketing</p><p>[02:15] Why <i>KPop Demon Hunters</i>?</p><p>[05:10] Role of a Fractional Head of Marketing</p><p>[06:20] Behind the Scenes of <i>KPop Demon Hunters</i></p><p>[16:00] B2B Marketing Lessons from <i>KPop Demon Hunters</i></p><p>[27:00] High Concept Storytelling in Media</p><p>[40:57] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/raywlin/">Connect with Ray on LinkedIn</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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He’s led and rolled up his sleeves across demand gen, digital, ABM, field, performance, growth, content, product marketing, and lifecycle CRM, with 8+ years inside B2B2C marketplaces like Grubhub, Wellhub and SeatGeek.</p><p>If your pipeline’s leaky, your teams are siloed, or “content” isn’t moving deals, Ray’s the marketing leader who fixes the system, centers the customer, and gets momentum back on the scoreboard.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>KPop Demon Hunters</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Work smarter, not harder.</strong> KPop Demon Hunters shows that momentum dies when you confuse output with impact. Ray pulls a direct B2B parallel: “one of the lessons that come from <i>Golden</i> is working smarter, not harder… [Marketers] a lot think that extra 10 attempts at ad creative or 10 extra emails that you queue up in your CRM are gonna make all the difference. When in reality, it’s about quality, not quantity.” For B2B, this movie is your warning label: speed without intention burns out the team and blurs the story. Make fewer bets, make them sharper, and give your work room to land.</li><li><strong>Compete with conviction, not contempt.</strong> The movie’s diss track, Takedown, is a trap: when your identity becomes anti-them, you shrink your own story. Ray says it plainly: “Don’t let competitive obsession poison your well.” The point isn’t to never compete, it’s how you compete. If your positioning is mostly about your rival, you’ve already let them write your narrative. Lead with what you stand for, and you won’t need a villain to feel heroic.</li><li><strong>Let vulnerability be your differentiator. </strong>The movie’s emotional turn lands because the heroes stop performing perfection and start telling the truth. That’s the B2B move too: honesty travels farther than polish. 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You can't plan for the success of one tentacle without thinking at least about the others.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Ray Lin, Fractional Head of Marketing</p><p>[02:15] Why <i>KPop Demon Hunters</i>?</p><p>[05:10] Role of a Fractional Head of Marketing</p><p>[06:20] Behind the Scenes of <i>KPop Demon Hunters</i></p><p>[16:00] B2B Marketing Lessons from <i>KPop Demon Hunters</i></p><p>[27:00] High Concept Storytelling in Media</p><p>[40:57] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/raywlin/">Connect with Ray on LinkedIn</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes the biggest creative breakthroughs start with a mistake, and no one proves that better than Massimo Bottura.</p><p>The three-Michelin-star chef behind some of the world’s most iconic dishes built his reputation on turning accidents, constraints, and tradition itself into something entirely new. In this episode, we break down his marketing lessons with the help of our special guest Abel Grünfeld, VP of Marketing at Riverside.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from transforming mistakes into memorable stories, using constraints to spark better ideas, and leading with calm adaptability when things inevitably go off script.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Abel Grünfeld</strong></p><p>Abel Grunfeld is Riverside’s VP of marketing and first employee. He is a growth strategy expert, specializing in scaling our digital presence and building an efficient marketing pipeline. </p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Massimo Bottura:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Turn mistakes into magnetic storytelling.</strong> Massimo Bottura’s most iconic dish was born from a dropped lemon tart, which is proof that imperfections can become brand-defining moments. Abel explains, “ [It’s] very inspiring to take this high stress environment… and transform it into something that actually is unique, much more creative, much more powerful in terms of storytelling.” In B2B, the same principle applies. When a campaign breaks, a launch misfires, or a plan goes sideways, don’t hide it. Shape it into a story. Audiences connect most with brands that reveal the creative, human process behind the work. 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Abel shares, “You always plan, but you cannot always control the outcomes… you need to plan to be surprised… and  to figure out how you make the most out of any situation.” For B2B marketers, this is the mindset shift. Markets shift. Teams change. Campaigns don’t go as expected. The brands that win are the ones that stay calm, adapt quickly, and turn the unexpected into momentum. Build flexibility into your strategy so you can transform disruption into differentiation.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>“Real creativity, very often, it's a coincidence of different factors.  There's an unintentionality behind creation that when you plan everything out, you'll never come to that result. When you allow space for exploration, for playfulness, for doing things that you never planned… sometimes they're better than what you actually can envision and visualize yourself.” </p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Abel Grünfeld, VP of Marketing at Riverside </p><p>[00:52] Why Massimo Bottura?</p><p>[01:59 The Role of VP of Marketing at Riverside</p><p>[03:02] Behind the Scenes of Massimo Bottura: The Italian Culinary Genius</p><p>[14:58] Marketing Lessons from Massimo Bottura</p><p>[26:19] Where are B2B Companies at with Video?</p><p>[32:07] The Importance of Video Content</p><p>[41:34] Content Strategy at Riverside</p><p>[44:47] Simplifying Video Production</p><p>[47:07] Consolidating Video Creation Tools</p><p>[49:07] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/abelgrunfeld/">Connect with Abel on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://riverside.com/">Learn more about Riverside</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes the biggest creative breakthroughs start with a mistake, and no one proves that better than Massimo Bottura.</p><p>The three-Michelin-star chef behind some of the world’s most iconic dishes built his reputation on turning accidents, constraints, and tradition itself into something entirely new. In this episode, we break down his marketing lessons with the help of our special guest Abel Grünfeld, VP of Marketing at Riverside.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from transforming mistakes into memorable stories, using constraints to spark better ideas, and leading with calm adaptability when things inevitably go off script.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Abel Grünfeld</strong></p><p>Abel Grunfeld is Riverside’s VP of marketing and first employee. 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Your “oops” moment might become your most memorable asset.</li><li><strong>Use constraints to fuel creativity.</strong> In high-pressure kitchens, limitations create innovation, not less of it. Abel notes, “Your constraints are your advantage… By being very intentional and aware of what your constraints and disadvantages are, you can be really focused on how to use these to actually create some sort of playing field where you can be more successful.” B2B teams often don’t have unlimited budgets, bandwidth, or time. That’s not a disadvantage, that’s focus. Constraints sharpen your narrative, strengthen your positioning, and force bold creative choices. The boundaries become the catalyst.</li><li><strong>Plan for surprises and lead through them.</strong> Massimo Bottura thrives by embracing unpredictability, treating chaos as a space for invention. 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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Restoring a 250-year-old farmhouse isn’t just a renovation project. It’s a blueprint for modern marketing.</p><p>That’s the lesson from Jean-Christophe Pitié, Chief Marketing and Chief Partner Officer at Contentsquare, who’s spent the last five years bringing new life to a centuries-old home outside Paris. In this episode, we break down the marketing lessons hidden in his restoration journey.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from blending heritage with innovation, finding creativity in constraints, and designing connected experiences where every touchpoint matters.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Jean-Christophe Pitié</strong></p><p>With 20+ years of experience in international marketing and partner engagement, Jean-Christophe is committed to supporting companies of all sizes in their digital transformation. Passionate about technology and retail, he spent two decades at Microsoft, where he had the opportunity to contribute to the cloud transformation and to launch Microsoft 365 as well as leading Microsoft Stores. Today, as Chief Marketing and Partnerships Officer at Contentsquare, Jean-Christophe’s main mission is to drive customer demand in markets around the world, continue to grow our rich partner ecosystem, and bring holistic customer experience insights to more teams worldwide.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From the restoration of a French farmhouse:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Honor your legacy while modernizing for today.</strong> Great brands, like great houses, balance tradition and innovation. Jean-Christophe explains, “I had architects who came initially, and they wanted to put glass everywhere, tear down some big stone walls, and I’m like, guys, this house has had oak beams for 250 years. I’m not gonna tear them down. I’m gonna keep them.” In B2B, the same logic applies. Your legacy, your history, and your customer trust are part of your brand’s foundation. Don’t tear them down for the sake of what’s trendy. Blend your legacy with fresh, modern layers such as new tech, new storytelling, and new energy, without losing what made your brand distinct. That balance between the old and the new is what gives it lasting beauty and credibility.</li><li><strong>Constraints fuel creativity.</strong> Jean-Christophe says, “Sometimes the best projects come when… you have a constraint… either a location constraint or timing or budget, you get very creative to work around the constraints.” His farmhouse’s three-foot-thick stone walls forced him to rethink how to add modern features, and that challenge sparked originality. In B2B, the same holds true. Limited budget? Shrinking timelines? Regulatory hurdles? These are the sparks for inventive ideas. 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When you think about brand, you want something that's unique, differentiated, [and] people can relate to, which is so beautiful.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Jean-Christophe Pitié, Chief Marketing and Chief Partner Officer at Contentsquare</p><p>[01:04] Jean-Christophe’s French Farmhouse Restoration Project</p><p>[04:38] Balancing Tradition and Innovation in Restoration Projects</p><p>[13:56] Creative Solutions and Constraints in Restoration</p><p>[21:30] Importance of Legacy</p><p>[26:51] B2B Marketing Lessons from Restoring a French Farmhouse</p><p>[38:30] Innovations at Content Square</p><p>[43:33] Advice for CMOs on Investing in Brand</p><p>[45:45] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jcpitie/?originalSubdomain=fr">Connect with Jean-Christophe on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://contentsquare.com/">Learn more about Contentsquare</a></p><p>About Remarkable!</p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Restoring a 250-year-old farmhouse isn’t just a renovation project. It’s a blueprint for modern marketing.</p><p>That’s the lesson from Jean-Christophe Pitié, Chief Marketing and Chief Partner Officer at Contentsquare, who’s spent the last five years bringing new life to a centuries-old home outside Paris. In this episode, we break down the marketing lessons hidden in his restoration journey.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from blending heritage with innovation, finding creativity in constraints, and designing connected experiences where every touchpoint matters.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Jean-Christophe Pitié</strong></p><p>With 20+ years of experience in international marketing and partner engagement, Jean-Christophe is committed to supporting companies of all sizes in their digital transformation. 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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Everybody loves a good origin story, but not every story is worth retelling. The real skill is knowing when to evolve, not repeat.</p><p>That’s the lesson of <i>Andor</i>, the Star Wars series that turned subtle storytelling into a strategy for lasting relevance. In this episode, we explore its B2B marketing takeaways with the help of our special guest Rachel Sterling, CMO of Identity Digital. </p><p>Together, we break down what B2B marketers can learn from spotting product fatigue early, tailoring stories for evolving audiences, and creating content that sparks conversation, not just clicks.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Rachel Sterling</strong></p><p>Rachel Sterling serves as Chief Marketing Officer where she is focused on expanding Identity Digital’s impact on driving awareness and adoption of our top level domain portfolio. Prior to joining Identity Digital, Rachel held senior leadership positions at Proximie, Instagram, Twitter, and Google where she developed impactful strategies around product, integrated, content, and event marketing.</p><p>Rachel also possesses a creative background, spending the first eight years of her career working in TV production and post-production. Rachel lives in Belmont, CA with her husband and two children.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>Andor</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Recognize when the story has run its course. </strong>Just like Disney realized Luke Skywalker’s arc had reached its limits, Rachel ties that lesson to brand fatigue. Audiences, like customers, eventually want something new. As she puts it: “Their main characters had been exhausted… you have to consistently monitor for user sentiment.” Andor worked because it didn’t cling to nostalgia; it built from a blank slate. 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As she says: “Content no longer exists in a passive experience… The sign of a good show is when you can engage in conversation beyond just a simple, ‘that was good.’” In B2B, the same holds true. The best content doesn’t just get attention; it gets people talking, sharing, and connecting around a shared idea. Don’t settle for applause, aim for conversation that keeps your brand in motion.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>“Just because you feel affinity for the product does not mean that people will continue to share that affinity. I definitely think that marketers, from seeing the decision that Disney made to Greenlight Andor, can take away the message [to] understand when you have product fatigue.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Rachel Sterling, Chief Marketing Officer at Identity Digital</p><p>[01:51] Why <i>Andor</i>?</p><p>[03:36] The Role of CMO at Identity Digital</p><p>[04:45] What is <i>Andor</i>?</p><p>[22:32] B2B Marketing Lessons from <i>Andor</i></p><p>[42:14] Identity Digital's Brand and Content Strategy</p><p>[45:52] Advice for First-Time CMOs</p><p>[48:27] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachelsterling/">Connect with Rachel on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://identity.digital/">Learn more about Identity Digital</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everybody loves a good origin story, but not every story is worth retelling. The real skill is knowing when to evolve, not repeat.</p><p>That’s the lesson of <i>Andor</i>, the Star Wars series that turned subtle storytelling into a strategy for lasting relevance. In this episode, we explore its B2B marketing takeaways with the help of our special guest Rachel Sterling, CMO of Identity Digital. </p><p>Together, we break down what B2B marketers can learn from spotting product fatigue early, tailoring stories for evolving audiences, and creating content that sparks conversation, not just clicks.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Rachel Sterling</strong></p><p>Rachel Sterling serves as Chief Marketing Officer where she is focused on expanding Identity Digital’s impact on driving awareness and adoption of our top level domain portfolio. 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In B2B, that means knowing when your message or product line has hit its ceiling and having the courage to reinvent before your audience tunes out.</li><li><strong>Segment for meaning, not just demographics. </strong>Disney didn’t make Andor for everyone. It made it for the fans who grew up with A New Hope. Rachel explains: “By exploring more mature themes, you're building content specifically for the core audience that had been there since the very beginning.” The same rule applies in B2B. As your audience evolves, so should your tone, themes, and depth. Mature buyers crave nuance; new ones need accessibility. Build the right story for the right segment, and you’ll meet each generation where they are, not where they were.</li><li><strong>Make content that talks back</strong>. Rachel points out that Andor isn’t a passive show. It demands engagement long after the credits roll. As she says: “Content no longer exists in a passive experience… The sign of a good show is when you can engage in conversation beyond just a simple, ‘that was good.’” In B2B, the same holds true. The best content doesn’t just get attention; it gets people talking, sharing, and connecting around a shared idea. 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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Real strength isn’t flashy. It’s earned through quiet discipline over time. The same goes for B2B marketing: sustainable growth comes from strong foundations, not sporadic wins.</p><p>That’s the lesson of Dr. Peter Attia, the longevity expert who reshaped how millions think about health. In this episode, we explore his B2B marketing parallels with the help of our special guest Ashley Sturm, VP of Marketing at Opengear.</p><p>Together, we uncover what B2B marketers can learn from building strong systems behind every campaign, committing to a long-term content strategy, and meeting audiences where they are with multichannel storytelling.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Ashley Sturm</strong></p><p>Ashley Sturm is VP of Marketing at Opengear. Ashley is a marketing and strategy leader with more than 15 years of experience developing strategic marketing initiatives to increase brand affinity, shape the customer experience, and grow market share. </p><p>Before joining Opengear, she served as the Vice President of Marketing at Nautilus Data Technologies. Prior to that, she served as the Senior Director of Marketing Brand and Content for NTT Global Data Centers Americas, spearheading marketing efforts to open two out of six data center campuses.</p><p>Ashley has led global marketing through the startup of Vertiv’s Global Data Center Solutions business unit, where she developed the unit’s foundational messaging and established global and regional marketing teams. Ashley’s career experience includes extensive work with the US Navy through the Clearinghouse for Military Family Readiness as well as broadcast journalism. A graduate of the University of Missouri’s School of Journalism, Ashley specializes in journalism and converged media.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Dr. Peter Attia:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Focus on strength in the unseen work. </strong>Just like Dr. Attia emphasizes strength in the eccentric phase of movement (the part no one sees), Ashley connects that to B2B marketing fundamentals. Campaigns fail when the foundation is weak. As she puts it: “[It’s] not just the big flashy campaigns or the launches, it’s about the control, the discipline, and the structure behind them.” By investing in process, frameworks, and messaging systems, brands build resilience and long-term performance. The lesson: don’t obsess over launch day, obsess over what holds it all together.</li><li><strong>Commit to the slow burn strategy.</strong> Dr. Attia didn’t explode overnight. He showed up for years through podcasts, long-form content, and thought leadership before publishing his book, <i>Outlive: The Science and Art of Longevity</i>. Ashley calls out the power of consistency over time, saying: “He committed to the slow burn… we’re in this for the long haul.” In B2B, that translates to sticking with a point of view, consistently educating your market, and building credibility brick by brick. Thought leadership is earned, not launched, and trust compounds for brands that stay the course.</li><li><strong>Meet people on their terms. Dr. Attia doesn’t rely on one channel or format.</strong> He scales his ideas across podcasts, books, YouTube tutorials, social clips, and deep science blogs. Ashley ties that directly to B2B content strategy: “Where are they gonna be? How do they wanna consume it? Let’s make sure we’ve morphed the content to fit that medium.” Your buyers consume differently at different moments. 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Whether in health or in business.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Ashley Sturm, VP of Marketing at Opengear</p><p>[01:12] Why Dr. Peter Attia?</p><p>[04:02] Role of VP of Marketing at Opengear</p><p>[05:03] Deep Dive into Dr. Peter Attia’s Work</p><p>[11:23] B2B Marketing Lessons from Dr. Peter Attia</p><p>[39:48] Building Authentic Content Strategies</p><p>[45:57] Advice for Marketing Leaders</p><p>[48:35] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleysturm/">Connect with Ashley on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="http://www.opengear.com/">Learn more about Opengear</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>A great marketing engine doesn’t run in a straight line. It spins, gathers speed, and builds momentum with every turn.</p><p>That’s the lesson of the flywheel, a framework that transforms scattered marketing efforts into a self-sustaining system of growth. In this episode, we explore how to turn that theory into reality with Nataly Kelly, Chief Marketing Officer at Zappi.</p><p>Together, we unpack what B2B marketers can learn from building circular strategies that connect brand to demand, removing friction where it matters most, and compounding small wins into unstoppable momentum.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Nataly Kelly</strong></p><p>Nataly Kelly is CMO at Zappi. She has over 20 years of experience leading remote and global teams, and previously served 7 years as VP at HubSpot. She is a frequent contributor to Harvard Business Review, a published author of four books, keynote speaker on marketing, growth, and international expansion, and an award-winning leader. She has been named among the Top 50 CMOs on LinkedIn, as Marketing Executive of the Year, in the 40 under 40, and one of the Top 25 Content Marketers in Enterprise Software, as well as among the Women Worth Watching.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From the Flywheel:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Marketing is a flywheel, not a funnel. </strong>Marketers love funnels because they’re measurable, but Nataly reminds us that the best marketing is circular, not linear. She says, “So often we have thought of marketing as like a linear funnel. But the flywheel’s really where you turn the funnel on the side and then connect the top to the bottom.” In her model, brand, demand, land, and expand all feed each other in an ongoing loop. Marketing shouldn’t be about one campaign that ends. It’s about creating continuous energy that connects awareness to advocacy.</li><li><strong>Friction kills momentum. Velocity</strong> doesn’t come from spending more, it comes from removing what slows you down. Nataly explains, “A general rule of thumb I’ve always used is the closer you get to someone’s wallet, the more important it is to remove friction…. Every touchpoint is a chance to delight a customer.” In B2B marketing, the same rule applies: every confusing process, clunky message, or slow response is a brake on your flywheel. Smooth the path, and speed will follow.</li><li><strong>Small improvements compound into unstoppable growth.</strong> Marketers often look for a big splash, but Nataly says momentum comes from micro progress. Nataly asks, “What are the small things we can do to create uplift today and momentum today?... And those things add up.” Each small optimization—an improved touchpoint, a clearer message, a faster follow-up—removes friction and accelerates the flywheel. Consistency, not chaos, creates compounding power.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>“Your brand voice is really how you decide to communicate with your customer. And that is not just what we typically consider marketing communications. It touches every part of the customer experience.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Nataly Kelly, Chief Marketing Officer at Zappi</p><p>[01:09] Why Flywheels?</p><p>[05:16] Role of Chief Marketing Officer at Zappi</p><p>[07:30] What are Flywheels?</p><p>[20:52] Understanding Market Dynamics and Customer Segmentation</p><p>[22:11] Building and Maintaining a Flywheel Strategy</p><p>[26:11] Content Marketing Success Stories</p><p>[33:51] Leveraging LinkedIn for Effective Content Distribution</p><p>[39:22] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/natalykelly/">Connect with Nataly on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.zappi.io/web/">Learn more about Zappi</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great marketing engine doesn’t run in a straight line. It spins, gathers speed, and builds momentum with every turn.</p><p>That’s the lesson of the flywheel, a framework that transforms scattered marketing efforts into a self-sustaining system of growth. In this episode, we explore how to turn that theory into reality with Nataly Kelly, Chief Marketing Officer at Zappi.</p><p>Together, we unpack what B2B marketers can learn from building circular strategies that connect brand to demand, removing friction where it matters most, and compounding small wins into unstoppable momentum.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Nataly Kelly</strong></p><p>Nataly Kelly is CMO at Zappi. She has over 20 years of experience leading remote and global teams, and previously served 7 years as VP at HubSpot. She is a frequent contributor to Harvard Business Review, a published author of four books, keynote speaker on marketing, growth, and international expansion, and an award-winning leader. She has been named among the Top 50 CMOs on LinkedIn, as Marketing Executive of the Year, in the 40 under 40, and one of the Top 25 Content Marketers in Enterprise Software, as well as among the Women Worth Watching.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From the Flywheel:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Marketing is a flywheel, not a funnel. </strong>Marketers love funnels because they’re measurable, but Nataly reminds us that the best marketing is circular, not linear. She says, “So often we have thought of marketing as like a linear funnel. But the flywheel’s really where you turn the funnel on the side and then connect the top to the bottom.” In her model, brand, demand, land, and expand all feed each other in an ongoing loop. Marketing shouldn’t be about one campaign that ends. It’s about creating continuous energy that connects awareness to advocacy.</li><li><strong>Friction kills momentum. Velocity</strong> doesn’t come from spending more, it comes from removing what slows you down. Nataly explains, “A general rule of thumb I’ve always used is the closer you get to someone’s wallet, the more important it is to remove friction…. Every touchpoint is a chance to delight a customer.” In B2B marketing, the same rule applies: every confusing process, clunky message, or slow response is a brake on your flywheel. Smooth the path, and speed will follow.</li><li><strong>Small improvements compound into unstoppable growth.</strong> Marketers often look for a big splash, but Nataly says momentum comes from micro progress. Nataly asks, “What are the small things we can do to create uplift today and momentum today?... And those things add up.” Each small optimization—an improved touchpoint, a clearer message, a faster follow-up—removes friction and accelerates the flywheel. Consistency, not chaos, creates compounding power.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>“Your brand voice is really how you decide to communicate with your customer. And that is not just what we typically consider marketing communications. It touches every part of the customer experience.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Nataly Kelly, Chief Marketing Officer at Zappi</p><p>[01:09] Why Flywheels?</p><p>[05:16] Role of Chief Marketing Officer at Zappi</p><p>[07:30] What are Flywheels?</p><p>[20:52] Understanding Market Dynamics and Customer Segmentation</p><p>[22:11] Building and Maintaining a Flywheel Strategy</p><p>[26:11] Content Marketing Success Stories</p><p>[33:51] Leveraging LinkedIn for Effective Content Distribution</p><p>[39:22] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/natalykelly/">Connect with Nataly on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.zappi.io/web/">Learn more about Zappi</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Survival isn’t just for dystopian dramas. The best B2B marketing strategies demand experimentation, curiosity, and the ability to outlast weaker ideas.</p><p>That’s the lesson of <i>Squid Game</i>, the global phenomenon where only the strongest contestants made it through each round. In this episode, we explore its marketing parallels with the help of our special guest Scott Leatherman, Chief Marketing Officer at Aviatrix.</p><p>Together, we uncover what B2B marketers can learn from gamifying campaigns to pull audiences in, running multiple “<i>Squid Games</i>” to see which campaigns win, and staying relentlessly curious by listening to what customers really say.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Scott Leatherman</strong></p><p>Scott Leatherman is an award-winning full-stack marketing and operations executive with 25+ years of leadership and business management experience. Scott is currently the Chief Marketing Officer at Aviatrix. Prior to joining Aviatrix, he was the CMO at Veritone, an AI platform company. Scott served as COO at SAP Labs US for 5 years. Scott was a Global Vice President of Marketing and was a founding member of the SAP HANA go-to-market team that disrupted the database market and built a billion-dollar business in less than three years. Also during Scott’s tenure at SAP he was part of the Strategic Account Sales Team and created new channel programs to reduce shelfware and support new solution adoption. Prior to SAP, Scott held senior marketing and business development roles at several startups.</p><p>Scott was recognized by the Silicon Valley Business Journal for his lifelong commitment to helping his local community with the 2018 Individual Community Champion Award. Both at work and in his personal life, Scott is focused on helping communities reduce food insecurities, supporting underserved children, funding cancer research and Native American educational programs.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>Squid Game</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Gamify campaigns to move your audience.</strong> Marketing works best when it pulls people in emotionally, just like <i>Squid Game</i>. Scott explains, “Anytime you want to move an audience together, gamifying it so that they have an emotional pull on the winner is gonna make you successful.” By creating campaigns that feel participatory, competitive, or playful, brands can inspire curiosity and investment from their audience. It’s not just messaging—it’s making people feel like they have a stake in the outcome.</li><li><strong>Run “</strong><i><strong>Squid Games</strong></i><strong>” for your campaigns.</strong> Rather than guessing which message will resonate, Scott’s team tested multiple campaign “games” at once. “We invested over 500 engagements…we had 74 one-on-one engagements…to narrow it down to what we have as eight campaigns in the <i>Squid Games</i>.” Each campaign has a top, middle, and bottom funnel component, and their performance is tracked side by side. Scott explains, “The gamification of <i>Squid Games</i> is working in our B2B marketing approach…we rolled it out to the company as <i>Squid Games</i>…and it’s been really fun to have engineers across the world leaning in on what they think is gonna move the audience fastest.” The lesson: treat campaigns like contestants. Test widely, kill off the weak performers quickly, and double down on what wins.</li><li><strong>Stay curious and listen to your audience. </strong>One of Scott’s biggest lessons is that marketers often assume they know what works—but data and customer feedback may prove otherwise. He notes, “It really comes back to just what are your customers saying about you? And what are your prospects saying about you?…That listening exercise, while it sounds remedial and 101, it gets lost on a lot of us ‘cause we’re all running so fast.” Just like in <i>Squid Game</i>, survival depends on paying close attention and adapting quickly. In B2B marketing, curiosity and active listening turn campaigns into insights, and insights into growth.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>“The gamification of <i>Squid Games</i> is working in our B2B marketing approach…we rolled it out to the company as <i>Squid Games</i>…and it’s been really fun to have engineers across the world leaning in on what they think is gonna move the audience fastest.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Scott Leatherman, Chief Marketing Officer at Aviatrix</p><p>[01:32] Why <i>Squid Game</i>?</p><p>[03:08] Behind-the-Scenes of <i>Squid Game</i></p><p>[14:18] AI in Marketing</p><p>[17:33] B2B Marketing Takeaways from <i>Squid Game</i></p><p>[42:39] AI Integration and Brand Evolution</p><p>[46:46] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/scottleatherman/">Connect with Scott on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="http://aviatrix.ai/">Learn more about Aviatrix</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Survival isn’t just for dystopian dramas. The best B2B marketing strategies demand experimentation, curiosity, and the ability to outlast weaker ideas.</p><p>That’s the lesson of <i>Squid Game</i>, the global phenomenon where only the strongest contestants made it through each round. In this episode, we explore its marketing parallels with the help of our special guest Scott Leatherman, Chief Marketing Officer at Aviatrix.</p><p>Together, we uncover what B2B marketers can learn from gamifying campaigns to pull audiences in, running multiple “<i>Squid Games</i>” to see which campaigns win, and staying relentlessly curious by listening to what customers really say.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Scott Leatherman</strong></p><p>Scott Leatherman is an award-winning full-stack marketing and operations executive with 25+ years of leadership and business management experience. Scott is currently the Chief Marketing Officer at Aviatrix. Prior to joining Aviatrix, he was the CMO at Veritone, an AI platform company. Scott served as COO at SAP Labs US for 5 years. Scott was a Global Vice President of Marketing and was a founding member of the SAP HANA go-to-market team that disrupted the database market and built a billion-dollar business in less than three years. Also during Scott’s tenure at SAP he was part of the Strategic Account Sales Team and created new channel programs to reduce shelfware and support new solution adoption. Prior to SAP, Scott held senior marketing and business development roles at several startups.</p><p>Scott was recognized by the Silicon Valley Business Journal for his lifelong commitment to helping his local community with the 2018 Individual Community Champion Award. 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It’s not just messaging—it’s making people feel like they have a stake in the outcome.</li><li><strong>Run “</strong><i><strong>Squid Games</strong></i><strong>” for your campaigns.</strong> Rather than guessing which message will resonate, Scott’s team tested multiple campaign “games” at once. “We invested over 500 engagements…we had 74 one-on-one engagements…to narrow it down to what we have as eight campaigns in the <i>Squid Games</i>.” Each campaign has a top, middle, and bottom funnel component, and their performance is tracked side by side. Scott explains, “The gamification of <i>Squid Games</i> is working in our B2B marketing approach…we rolled it out to the company as <i>Squid Games</i>…and it’s been really fun to have engineers across the world leaning in on what they think is gonna move the audience fastest.” The lesson: treat campaigns like contestants. 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      <description><![CDATA[<p><i>The New York Times</i> isn’t just a newspaper; it’s a cultural institution, a daily habit, and a brand that has reinvented itself for every generation. </p><p>That’s why in this episode, we’re taking lessons from their playbook with the help of our special guest Avery Akkineni, Chief Marketing Officer of VaynerX.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from building credibility into daily routines, using gamification and surprise to drive engagement, and picking the right moments to move fast while staying relevant.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Avery Akkineni</strong></p><p>A pioneer in digital marketing and emerging tech, Avery Akkineni spearheads brand strategy, content, events, and communications as Chief Marketing Officer at VaynerX.</p><p>In seven years at Vayner, Avery has catalyzed exponential growth by launching new companies and leading international expansion. She built VaynerMedia APAC from the ground up to over 150 employees in two years, opened key Asia Pacific markets like Singapore, Bangkok, Sydney, and Tokyo. During her tenure, VaynerMedia APAC was awarded Marketing Interactive's Agency of the Year. </p><p>In 2021, Avery founded Vayner3, an innovation consultancy focused on emerging technologies like AI and Web3. Under her leadership, Vayner3 achieved significant industry acclaim; she was named an Ad Age Web3 Trailblazer, and an AI Thought Leader by Business Insider. Her proven ability to identify and leverage leading-edge channels to drive growth for Vayner and her brand partners has landed Avery advisory roles including Salesforce’s AI Council, Meta’s Creative Council, TikTok's #ForYouCollective, Tracer's Advisory Board, and with a weekly marketers podcast on CoinDesk (GenC).</p><p>Based in Miami, FL overseeing VaynerX's local office, Avery continues to push boundaries in marketing. She is a sought-after speaker on modern marketing and digital innovation, who empowers teams and companies to embrace new opportunities. She also serves on the Board of Peace Players, an organization using the power of sport to build peaceful and thriving communities.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>The New York Times</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Build credibility into daily routines. </strong><i>The New York Times</i> succeeds because it has become a trusted part of people’s everyday habits. For B2B brands, the lesson is to earn that same consistent place in your audience’s workflow. As Avery explains:<br />“To me, the credibility of <i>The New York Times</i> is why I want to check there first and understand their point of view. What are the big stories of today.” When buyers trust your perspective enough to seek it daily, your brand moves from optional to indispensable.</li><li><strong>Use gamification and surprise to drive engagement. </strong>NYT didn’t just sell news—it made puzzles, games, and even cooking content part of its brand fabric. That levity created stickiness. Avery puts it this way: “<i>The New York Times</i> integration with their incredible games has really helped drive up that frequency… I play with my friends, everybody shares their scores… and I think that really drives up that frequency and user adoption and makes <i>The New York Time</i>s even more relevant.” In B2B, “serious” brands can still add fun, surprise, or delight to deepen connection and engagement.</li><li><strong>Pick your moments and move fast.</strong> The Times doesn’t try to beat TikTok on breaking news—it chooses credibility as its edge, while still responding with speed when it matters. Avery notes:<br />“You don’t need to have a thought on everything. You have a thought on certain things—what matters for you and, as a brand, what matters for your consumers. Either we’re part of the conversation or we’re not.” For B2B, that means defining the moments where your voice is essential, and showing up quickly with relevance and confidence.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>“ You don’t need to have a thought on everything. You have a thought on certain things—what matters for you and as a brand, what matters for your consumers. Either we’re part of the conversation or we’re not.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Avery Akkineni, Chief Marketing Officer of VaynerX</p><p>01:05 Why <i>The New York Times</i>?</p><p>01:53 The Role of CMO at VaynerX</p><p>02:42 Gary Vaynerchuk's Influencer</p><p>09:51 Behind-the-Scenes of NYT</p><p>25:58 B2B Marketing Lessons from NYT</p><p>38:35 Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/averyakkineni/">Connect with Avery on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://vaynerx.com/">Learn more about VaynerX</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The New York Times</i> isn’t just a newspaper; it’s a cultural institution, a daily habit, and a brand that has reinvented itself for every generation. </p><p>That’s why in this episode, we’re taking lessons from their playbook with the help of our special guest Avery Akkineni, Chief Marketing Officer of VaynerX.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from building credibility into daily routines, using gamification and surprise to drive engagement, and picking the right moments to move fast while staying relevant.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Avery Akkineni</strong></p><p>A pioneer in digital marketing and emerging tech, Avery Akkineni spearheads brand strategy, content, events, and communications as Chief Marketing Officer at VaynerX.</p><p>In seven years at Vayner, Avery has catalyzed exponential growth by launching new companies and leading international expansion. 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What are the big stories of today.” When buyers trust your perspective enough to seek it daily, your brand moves from optional to indispensable.</li><li><strong>Use gamification and surprise to drive engagement. </strong>NYT didn’t just sell news—it made puzzles, games, and even cooking content part of its brand fabric. That levity created stickiness. Avery puts it this way: “<i>The New York Times</i> integration with their incredible games has really helped drive up that frequency… I play with my friends, everybody shares their scores… and I think that really drives up that frequency and user adoption and makes <i>The New York Time</i>s even more relevant.” In B2B, “serious” brands can still add fun, surprise, or delight to deepen connection and engagement.</li><li><strong>Pick your moments and move fast.</strong> The Times doesn’t try to beat TikTok on breaking news—it chooses credibility as its edge, while still responding with speed when it matters. Avery notes:<br />“You don’t need to have a thought on everything. You have a thought on certain things—what matters for you and, as a brand, what matters for your consumers. Either we’re part of the conversation or we’re not.” For B2B, that means defining the moments where your voice is essential, and showing up quickly with relevance and confidence.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>“ You don’t need to have a thought on everything. You have a thought on certain things—what matters for you and as a brand, what matters for your consumers. 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      <description><![CDATA[<p>A masterpiece doesn’t have to be simple. Sometimes the most powerful stories emerge from complexity, cohesion, and staying power.</p><p>That’s the lesson of Picasso’s Guernica, a chaotic painting that, when viewed as a whole, tells a timeless story. In this episode, we explore its marketing lessons with the help of our special guest Jerome Stewart, Chief Marketing Officer at Conviva.</p><p>Together, we uncover what B2B marketers can learn from building campaigns with a unifying story, turning complexity into an advantage, and creating content designed to resonate long after launch.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Jerome Stewart</strong></p><p>Jerome Stewart is the Chief Marketing Officer at Conviva. He is a dynamic and people-driven marketing executive with a proven track record of building high-performing teams, elevating brand visibility, and driving revenue growth in early-stage and industry-leading technology companies. Jerome is an experienced global leader with six years of international business experience outside the USA, as well as an accomplished Amazon bestselling author.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>Guernica</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Campaigns need a unifying story.</strong> Guernica shows how fragmented, chaotic elements can form one powerful story. Jerome says, “Each one of those [individual pictures] stands out, but when you take a step back and you look at it in its entirety. Indeed, there is a cohesive story.” Marketing works the same way; every asset matters, but true impact comes when the pieces connect into a bigger, memorable narrative.</li><li><strong>Complexity can be an advantage.</strong> At first glance, Guernica looks disorganized and overwhelming. However, his chaotic canvas still communicates a clear message. Jerome points out, “Maybe some people look at a more modern artistic style… and you can say, ‘Hey, this just looks really messy.’ But as I say, dig in a little bit deeper and you see there's a very rich story.” In marketing, don’t be afraid of layered stories. Campaigns that invite discovery can spark deeper connection and longer attention.</li><li><strong>Strive for timeless content.</strong> Picasso’s painting still sparks reflection nearly a century later. Jerome connects this to marketing: “We’re trying to tell stories and we’re trying to come up with stories that stand out and that maybe stand the test of time. That will resonate into the future.” Campaigns should be built with staying power, not just to make noise at launch but to linger and influence long after.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>“A bar  to hold ourselves against is did we tell a story? Was it clear? And something else that Picasso did brilliantly well, he took something as complex as war, and he didn’t simplify it in any way. He did something cohesive. [We have to]  challenge ourselves to do the best that we possibly can to tell those stories.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Jerome Stewart, Chief Marketing Officer at Conviva</p><p>[01:34] Why <i>Guernica</i>?</p><p>[06:57] Visiting <i>Guernica</i> and Its Impact</p><p>[14:58] Role as CMO at Conviva</p><p>[16:45] Understanding <i>Guernica</i></p><p>[28:08] B2B Marketing Takeaways from <i>Guernica</i></p><p>[35:31] Marketing Insights and Strategies</p><p>[42:27] Advice for CMOs</p><p>[44:53] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeromestewart/">Connect with Jerome on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="http://conviva.com">Learn more about Conviva</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A masterpiece doesn’t have to be simple. Sometimes the most powerful stories emerge from complexity, cohesion, and staying power.</p><p>That’s the lesson of Picasso’s Guernica, a chaotic painting that, when viewed as a whole, tells a timeless story. In this episode, we explore its marketing lessons with the help of our special guest Jerome Stewart, Chief Marketing Officer at Conviva.</p><p>Together, we uncover what B2B marketers can learn from building campaigns with a unifying story, turning complexity into an advantage, and creating content designed to resonate long after launch.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Jerome Stewart</strong></p><p>Jerome Stewart is the Chief Marketing Officer at Conviva. He is a dynamic and people-driven marketing executive with a proven track record of building high-performing teams, elevating brand visibility, and driving revenue growth in early-stage and industry-leading technology companies. Jerome is an experienced global leader with six years of international business experience outside the USA, as well as an accomplished Amazon bestselling author.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>Guernica</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Campaigns need a unifying story.</strong> Guernica shows how fragmented, chaotic elements can form one powerful story. Jerome says, “Each one of those [individual pictures] stands out, but when you take a step back and you look at it in its entirety. Indeed, there is a cohesive story.” Marketing works the same way; every asset matters, but true impact comes when the pieces connect into a bigger, memorable narrative.</li><li><strong>Complexity can be an advantage.</strong> At first glance, Guernica looks disorganized and overwhelming. However, his chaotic canvas still communicates a clear message. Jerome points out, “Maybe some people look at a more modern artistic style… and you can say, ‘Hey, this just looks really messy.’ But as I say, dig in a little bit deeper and you see there's a very rich story.” In marketing, don’t be afraid of layered stories. Campaigns that invite discovery can spark deeper connection and longer attention.</li><li><strong>Strive for timeless content.</strong> Picasso’s painting still sparks reflection nearly a century later. Jerome connects this to marketing: “We’re trying to tell stories and we’re trying to come up with stories that stand out and that maybe stand the test of time. That will resonate into the future.” Campaigns should be built with staying power, not just to make noise at launch but to linger and influence long after.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>“A bar  to hold ourselves against is did we tell a story? Was it clear? And something else that Picasso did brilliantly well, he took something as complex as war, and he didn’t simplify it in any way. He did something cohesive. [We have to]  challenge ourselves to do the best that we possibly can to tell those stories.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Jerome Stewart, Chief Marketing Officer at Conviva</p><p>[01:34] Why <i>Guernica</i>?</p><p>[06:57] Visiting <i>Guernica</i> and Its Impact</p><p>[14:58] Role as CMO at Conviva</p><p>[16:45] Understanding <i>Guernica</i></p><p>[28:08] B2B Marketing Takeaways from <i>Guernica</i></p><p>[35:31] Marketing Insights and Strategies</p><p>[42:27] Advice for CMOs</p><p>[44:53] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeromestewart/">Connect with Jerome on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="http://conviva.com">Learn more about Conviva</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Big budgets and star power don’t guarantee success. Sometimes it takes time, refinement, and the right story to win an audience.</p><p>That’s the journey of <i>The Gilded Age</i>, the HBO drama that overcame early skepticism to become a hit. In this episode, we dig into its marketing parallels with the help of our special guest Laura Goldberg, Chief Marketing Officer at Auctane.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from practicing patience, locking in product-market fit, and doubling down when momentum builds to gain lasting growth.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Laura Goldberg</strong></p><p>Laura Goldberg is the Chief Marketing Officer at Auctane. She is a seasoned, operations-driven go-to-market executive with a proven track record of propelling software companies to new heights, particularly serving small and medium sized businesses (SMBs), a vital segment for Auctane. 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You may not be a… hot [thing] out of the gate. But… it’s going to build. Nobody makes a decision… with <i>The Gilded Age</i>, it’s a solid hour and you got to pay attention. Like you have to make a commitment to it and it takes time.” Marketing results rarely happen instantly. Success comes from committing, nurturing, and allowing campaigns to grow into traction over time.</li><li><strong>Product-market fit is non-negotiable. </strong>The show’s elaborate sets and costumes bought it some time, but what kept audiences hooked was stronger storytelling in later seasons. Laura draws a clear B2B parallel: “You may have some stumbles outta the gate… You got to deliver the goods. The product market fit, if you will, has to be there eventually. It doesn’t have to be perfect right out of the gate, but it has to get to perfect pretty quickly.” In other words: creative campaigns and strong distribution will only get you so far—if the product doesn’t ultimately deliver, marketing can’t save it</li><li><strong>Lean in when you gain traction.</strong> Once <i>The Gilded Age</i> started buzzing online, the promotion amplified everywhere. Laura says the same is true for B2B: “Once you get traction, lean in. When I tell you that my socials, everything I see is talking about this show… I see Mr. Russell in his flower suit all over the internet. By the way, I think it’s an interview from two years ago that I keep seeing. So recycle all that stuff. But once you feel that traction gripping, lean in, repeat, be on everything. Repost, retweet… you have to lean in when you’re doing well and really get that momentum.” Marketers should maximize momentum, recycle strong content, and make sure their presence is unavoidable when the audience is paying attention.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>“ Customer, customer, customer. I feel like too many times it’s really easy to talk about why your product’s great and what it does… but you really have to frame it in the, what are you doing for me and me being the customer. 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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big budgets and star power don’t guarantee success. Sometimes it takes time, refinement, and the right story to win an audience.</p><p>That’s the journey of <i>The Gilded Age</i>, the HBO drama that overcame early skepticism to become a hit. In this episode, we dig into its marketing parallels with the help of our special guest Laura Goldberg, Chief Marketing Officer at Auctane.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from practicing patience, locking in product-market fit, and doubling down when momentum builds to gain lasting growth.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Laura Goldberg</strong></p><p>Laura Goldberg is the Chief Marketing Officer at Auctane. She is a seasoned, operations-driven go-to-market executive with a proven track record of propelling software companies to new heights, particularly serving small and medium sized businesses (SMBs), a vital segment for Auctane. 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You may not be a… hot [thing] out of the gate. But… it’s going to build. Nobody makes a decision… with <i>The Gilded Age</i>, it’s a solid hour and you got to pay attention. Like you have to make a commitment to it and it takes time.” Marketing results rarely happen instantly. Success comes from committing, nurturing, and allowing campaigns to grow into traction over time.</li><li><strong>Product-market fit is non-negotiable. </strong>The show’s elaborate sets and costumes bought it some time, but what kept audiences hooked was stronger storytelling in later seasons. Laura draws a clear B2B parallel: “You may have some stumbles outta the gate… You got to deliver the goods. The product market fit, if you will, has to be there eventually. It doesn’t have to be perfect right out of the gate, but it has to get to perfect pretty quickly.” In other words: creative campaigns and strong distribution will only get you so far—if the product doesn’t ultimately deliver, marketing can’t save it</li><li><strong>Lean in when you gain traction.</strong> Once <i>The Gilded Age</i> started buzzing online, the promotion amplified everywhere. Laura says the same is true for B2B: “Once you get traction, lean in. When I tell you that my socials, everything I see is talking about this show… I see Mr. Russell in his flower suit all over the internet. By the way, I think it’s an interview from two years ago that I keep seeing. So recycle all that stuff. But once you feel that traction gripping, lean in, repeat, be on everything. 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How am I making things faster, cheaper, better for your end customer with what we’re doing, and making sure that you’re not just yelling features and functionality at people.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Laura Goldberg, Chief Marketing Officer at Auctane</p><p>[01:14] Why <i>The Gilded Age</i>?</p><p>[02:57] The Role of CMO at Auctane</p><p>[09:50] What is <i>The Gilded Age</i>?</p><p>[26:28] The Craft of Period Pieces</p><p>[29:19] B2B Marketing Lessons from <i>The Gilded Age</i></p><p>[31:43] Laura's Marketing Strategy as a CMO</p><p>[37:25] Winning Across Channels</p><p>[49:35] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-goldberg-b3913/">Connect with Laura on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.auctane.com">Learn more about Auctane</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. 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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Not every launch succeeds on day one, but the brands that endure find ways to win over time.</p><p>That’s why we’re turning to <i>Clue</i>, the 1985 murder mystery comedy with three different endings. Despite bombing at the box office, it grew into a beloved cult classic. In this episode, we break down its lessons with the help of special guest Christine Royston, Chief Marketing Officer at Wrike.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from building strategy before execution, balancing brand and demand, and embracing word-of-mouth to turn audiences into passionate advocates.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Christine Royston</strong></p><p>Christine Royston is a visionary global marketing executive with a proven track record of scaling iconic technology brands, architecting go-to-market transformation, and driving category leadership in the enterprise SaaS space. As Chief Marketing Officer at Wrike, Christine leads the company’s worldwide marketing strategy, fueling enterprise growth, brand acceleration, and customer-centric innovation at scale.</p><p>With more than 20 years of experience across global B2B markets, Christine has built and led high-performing teams at some of the world’s most recognized technology companies—including Salesforce, Dropbox, and Imperva—where she helped pioneer marketing strategies during moments of hypergrowth and IPO. She most recently served as Global Head of B2B Marketing at Udemy and as Vice President of Marketing at Bitly, where she was instrumental in repositioning both brands for business adoption and long-term growth.</p><p>Christine’s executive leadership spans Sales-Led and Product-Led Growth (PLG) models, across direct sales, freemium, and self-service go-to-market motions. 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She brings a global lens to every challenge, with leadership experience spanning the U.S., Europe, Asia, and Latin America.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>Clue</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li>Strategy matters more than star power. Even the best team can’t save a weak story. <i>Clue</i> had an all-star cast, but without a clear throughline, it flopped at the box office. Christine draws a parallel to marketing: “Even if you have the best team in the world, without a great strategy, you’re not gonna win. You’ve got to have a really fantastic strategy and a really great team to back it up, so that you can kind of play on everybody’s strengths, but you’re all pointed in the right direction.” Don’t confuse talent or resources with strategy. Success comes from aligning everyone around a clear, shared story.</li><li>Balance is everything. <i>Clue</i> was billed as both a mystery and a comedy, but leaned heavily into the silliness, confusing audiences who expected a tighter whodunit. Christine sees the same trap in B2B: “The movie was… touted as a mystery and a comedy, but it was definitely way more on the comedy side. And so thinking about that balance… and making sure that you’re really being clear with your intent of messaging, your intent of the brand.” Great marketing requires a balance between brand, demand, clarity, and creativity. Overweighting one side leaves your audience uncertain about what you really stand for.</li><li>Word of mouth is your secret weapon. Despite its failure in theaters, <i>Clue</i> became a cult classic through community and conversation. For Christine, that’s a marketing playbook: “The fact that it did become this cult classic highlights the importance of word of mouth. How do you make sure you’re getting in front of people who will be interested in your product, or interested in your movie, and making sure that you’re leveraging communities [and] social as a way to get in front of people who maybe aren’t going to go to the box office.” Buzz builds longevity. Beyond paid campaigns, you need advocates, communities, and conversations that keep your brand alive long after launch.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>“ How do you differentiate yourself and do something a little different. Bring some humor into what is normally a pretty straight-laced B2B technology type of industry. I think people like a little fun in their day-to-day.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Christine Royston, Chief Marketing Officer at Wrike</p><p>[01:01] Why <i>Clue</i>?</p><p>[01:24] The Role of CMO at Wrike</p><p>[03:05] The Origins of <i>Clue</i>, The Movie</p><p>[14:04] B2B Marketing Lessons from <i>Clue</i></p><p>[28:10] Balancing Brand vs. Demand</p><p>[29:50] Wrike's Brand and Content Strategy</p><p>[33:21] AI's Role in Modern Marketing</p><p>[35:11] Wrike's Survey on AI's Impact</p><p>[40:20] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/christineroyston/">Connect with Christine on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.wrike.com/">Learn more about Wrike</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not every launch succeeds on day one, but the brands that endure find ways to win over time.</p><p>That’s why we’re turning to <i>Clue</i>, the 1985 murder mystery comedy with three different endings. Despite bombing at the box office, it grew into a beloved cult classic. In this episode, we break down its lessons with the help of special guest Christine Royston, Chief Marketing Officer at Wrike.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from building strategy before execution, balancing brand and demand, and embracing word-of-mouth to turn audiences into passionate advocates.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Christine Royston</strong></p><p>Christine Royston is a visionary global marketing executive with a proven track record of scaling iconic technology brands, architecting go-to-market transformation, and driving category leadership in the enterprise SaaS space. 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Success comes from aligning everyone around a clear, shared story.</li><li>Balance is everything. <i>Clue</i> was billed as both a mystery and a comedy, but leaned heavily into the silliness, confusing audiences who expected a tighter whodunit. Christine sees the same trap in B2B: “The movie was… touted as a mystery and a comedy, but it was definitely way more on the comedy side. And so thinking about that balance… and making sure that you’re really being clear with your intent of messaging, your intent of the brand.” Great marketing requires a balance between brand, demand, clarity, and creativity. Overweighting one side leaves your audience uncertain about what you really stand for.</li><li>Word of mouth is your secret weapon. Despite its failure in theaters, <i>Clue</i> became a cult classic through community and conversation. For Christine, that’s a marketing playbook: “The fact that it did become this cult classic highlights the importance of word of mouth. How do you make sure you’re getting in front of people who will be interested in your product, or interested in your movie, and making sure that you’re leveraging communities [and] social as a way to get in front of people who maybe aren’t going to go to the box office.” Buzz builds longevity. Beyond paid campaigns, you need advocates, communities, and conversations that keep your brand alive long after launch.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>“ How do you differentiate yourself and do something a little different. Bring some humor into what is normally a pretty straight-laced B2B technology type of industry. I think people like a little fun in their day-to-day.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Christine Royston, Chief Marketing Officer at Wrike</p><p>[01:01] Why <i>Clue</i>?</p><p>[01:24] The Role of CMO at Wrike</p><p>[03:05] The Origins of <i>Clue</i>, The Movie</p><p>[14:04] B2B Marketing Lessons from <i>Clue</i></p><p>[28:10] Balancing Brand vs. Demand</p><p>[29:50] Wrike's Brand and Content Strategy</p><p>[33:21] AI's Role in Modern Marketing</p><p>[35:11] Wrike's Survey on AI's Impact</p><p>[40:20] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/christineroyston/">Connect with Christine on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.wrike.com/">Learn more about Wrike</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. 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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Great marketing isn’t just strategy, it’s intuition, timing, and a deep understanding of human behavior. </p><p>That’s the beauty of Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, a movie about erasing your memories. In this episode, we’re breaking down its lessons with the help of special guest Noha Rizk, Chief Marketing Officer at Incorta. </p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from putting human emotion at the center of their work, trusting intuition alongside data, and embracing mistakes as the path to growth.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Noha Rizk</strong></p><p>Noha Rizk is the Chief Marketing Officer at Incorta. With deep expertise in Marketing, brand management, integrated channel management, product leadership, P&L accountability, and change management, across various industries and launching and leading partnerships, marketing and product in over 50 countries, Noha brings extensive experience and insights into how to execute for brand loyalty, growth and sustainable share of the market. </p><p>Prior to Incorta, Noha led marketing for Meta AI, launching Llama, and leading other open source projects like PyTorch. She pioneered online banking for Amex and Citi, online booking and revenue optimisations and integrated channel strategies in the hotel industry with Starwood and Marriott, led partnerships and loyalty in emerging markets, launched NGO and Gov projects with US state department, launched and spun off two of her own successful businesses and helped organise PayPals enterprise, Platforms and Developer product offerings and streamline their GTM strategies.</p><p>Noha loves to solve big problems and create groundbreaking products and services that inspire customers and business partners. She focuses on delivering insights and metrics driven outcomes, collaborating with cross-functional teams, and coming up with innovative solutions. She especially enjoys building and developing strong, resilient, and nimble teams that can adapt to changing market needs and customer expectations.</p><p>Noha is an avid reader, developing painter and pianist, proud mother and animal lover with a passion for helping the private sector thrive in emerging markets.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Lead with human emotion.</strong> Great marketing isn’t about features, it’s about people. Even in B2B, you’re dealing with human psyches, behaviors, and emotions—not faceless corporations. Noha explains, “Even as B2B marketers… you’re dealing with individuals. You’re dealing with the human psyche, you’re dealing with the buying behavior… ultimately that is the objective. The objective is to maintain a relationship with your customers.” The lesson? Build messaging that connects on a human level first, because behind every buying decision is a person making sense of their own emotions.</li><li><strong>Balance data with intuition. </strong>Metrics matter, but numbers can’t capture everything. Noha argues that some of the best insights come from being present, listening, and noticing what the data can’t show. “Some things can’t be measured…A big chunk of marketing has to be intuitive. It’s not always purely scientific.” Just as the film’s dreamlike narrative reminds us memory isn’t linear or logical, B2B marketers need to leave room for creativity, serendipity, and gut instinct, because not everything that counts can be counted.</li><li><strong>Embrace mistakes as part of growth.</strong> Trying to erase failures is as dangerous in marketing as it is in memory. Noha points out, “You can’t just erase away the pain… you won’t learn if you don’t make mistakes. A lot of marketers have to be super buttoned up, their campaigns have to work… there isn’t a lot of opportunity for marketers these days to be allowed to make mistakes.” But the best brands learn from experiments that don’t go as planned. Failure isn’t wasted, it’s the raw material for innovation, resilience, and better campaigns down the road.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>“ As marketers…we explore the human psyche pretty much day in, day out, even if it's not explicitly said. But that's essentially what we do.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Noha Rizk, Chief Marketing Officer at Incorta</p><p>[1:26] Why <i>Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind</i>?</p><p>[5:51] Role of CMO at Incorta</p><p>[9:07] Breaking Down Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind</p><p>[22:11] B2B Marketing Takeaways from <i>Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind</i></p><p>[43:56] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/noharizk/">Connect with Noha on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.incorta.com/">Learn more about Incorta</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great marketing isn’t just strategy, it’s intuition, timing, and a deep understanding of human behavior. </p><p>That’s the beauty of Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, a movie about erasing your memories. In this episode, we’re breaking down its lessons with the help of special guest Noha Rizk, Chief Marketing Officer at Incorta. </p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from putting human emotion at the center of their work, trusting intuition alongside data, and embracing mistakes as the path to growth.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Noha Rizk</strong></p><p>Noha Rizk is the Chief Marketing Officer at Incorta. With deep expertise in Marketing, brand management, integrated channel management, product leadership, P&L accountability, and change management, across various industries and launching and leading partnerships, marketing and product in over 50 countries, Noha brings extensive experience and insights into how to execute for brand loyalty, growth and sustainable share of the market. </p><p>Prior to Incorta, Noha led marketing for Meta AI, launching Llama, and leading other open source projects like PyTorch. She pioneered online banking for Amex and Citi, online booking and revenue optimisations and integrated channel strategies in the hotel industry with Starwood and Marriott, led partnerships and loyalty in emerging markets, launched NGO and Gov projects with US state department, launched and spun off two of her own successful businesses and helped organise PayPals enterprise, Platforms and Developer product offerings and streamline their GTM strategies.</p><p>Noha loves to solve big problems and create groundbreaking products and services that inspire customers and business partners. She focuses on delivering insights and metrics driven outcomes, collaborating with cross-functional teams, and coming up with innovative solutions. She especially enjoys building and developing strong, resilient, and nimble teams that can adapt to changing market needs and customer expectations.</p><p>Noha is an avid reader, developing painter and pianist, proud mother and animal lover with a passion for helping the private sector thrive in emerging markets.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Lead with human emotion.</strong> Great marketing isn’t about features, it’s about people. Even in B2B, you’re dealing with human psyches, behaviors, and emotions—not faceless corporations. Noha explains, “Even as B2B marketers… you’re dealing with individuals. You’re dealing with the human psyche, you’re dealing with the buying behavior… ultimately that is the objective. The objective is to maintain a relationship with your customers.” The lesson? Build messaging that connects on a human level first, because behind every buying decision is a person making sense of their own emotions.</li><li><strong>Balance data with intuition. </strong>Metrics matter, but numbers can’t capture everything. Noha argues that some of the best insights come from being present, listening, and noticing what the data can’t show. “Some things can’t be measured…A big chunk of marketing has to be intuitive. It’s not always purely scientific.” Just as the film’s dreamlike narrative reminds us memory isn’t linear or logical, B2B marketers need to leave room for creativity, serendipity, and gut instinct, because not everything that counts can be counted.</li><li><strong>Embrace mistakes as part of growth.</strong> Trying to erase failures is as dangerous in marketing as it is in memory. Noha points out, “You can’t just erase away the pain… you won’t learn if you don’t make mistakes. A lot of marketers have to be super buttoned up, their campaigns have to work… there isn’t a lot of opportunity for marketers these days to be allowed to make mistakes.” But the best brands learn from experiments that don’t go as planned. Failure isn’t wasted, it’s the raw material for innovation, resilience, and better campaigns down the road.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>“ As marketers…we explore the human psyche pretty much day in, day out, even if it's not explicitly said. 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      <description><![CDATA[<p>It’s not easy to keep pace with constant change. If you want to stand out, you need to pivot (yes, PIVOT!), adapt, and build real connection with your audience.</p><p>That’s the genius of Friends, a cultural phenomenon built on chemistry, community, and conversations that felt timeless. In this episode, we’re decoding its lessons with the help of our special guest Lisa Cole, Chief Marketing Officer at 2X.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from embracing constant pivots, building your own Central Perk with your community, and why team chemistry often matters more than individual expertise.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Lisa Cole</strong></p><p>Lisa Cole is currently CMO at 2X. She's a strategic marketing leader with over 24 years of experience driving transformative growth for B2B technology and professional services. 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We’re constantly in a period of time in between pivots is compressing.” The same way Ross couldn’t move that couch without shouting “Pivot!” every marketer today needs to be ready to shift strategy, adjust direction, and keep moving forward.</li><li><strong>Create your Central Perk.</strong> Every brand needs a place where buyers feel safe, connected, and part of something bigger than a transaction. For the <i>Friends</i> cast, it was Central Perk, a space where they could gather, vent, and support each other without judgment. Lisa says, “You have to create a place… where your target audience, your buyers feel safe to get together and meet and engage as a community… if you care about Central Perk for your buyers, then they’ll care about you too.” In B2B, that means investing in communities and experiences where customers can be candid, connect with peers, and build trust—with your brand quietly in the background.</li><li><strong>Build team chemistry. </strong>The <i>Friends</i> cast worked because the chemistry was real—something greater than the sum of its parts. Marketing teams are no different. Lisa says, “Sometimes it’s the chemistry that matters more than the expertise. It's not necessarily that I brought together six experts.  It's the way that they work together, sometimes is the real magic.” Great marketing doesn’t just come from the smartest experts; it comes from teams (in-house, partners, or both) who click, collaborate, and push each other toward a shared mission.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>“  I'm not necessarily saying to marketers that this cast needs to be a large in-house marketing team. I'm just simply saying that the people that are in the day-to-day business of executing marketing for your organization, that there is a chemistry between them and that they are working together in a unified way.”</p><p>Time Stamps</p><p>[00:55] Meet Lisa Cole, CMO at 2X</p><p>[01:09] Why <i>Friends</i>?</p><p>[01:52] The Role of CMO at 2X</p><p>[03:34] The Creation of <i>Friends</i></p><p>[07:54] The Chemistry and Dynamics of <i>Friends</i></p><p>[21:59] Marketing Takeaways from <i>Friends</i></p><p>[32:17] The Humble Leader</p><p>[37:36] Introducing Brand Gravity</p><p>[48:11] 2X’s Content Strategy</p><p>[49:46] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisacole01/">Connect with Lisa on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.2x.marketing/">Learn more about 2X</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s not easy to keep pace with constant change. If you want to stand out, you need to pivot (yes, PIVOT!), adapt, and build real connection with your audience.</p><p>That’s the genius of Friends, a cultural phenomenon built on chemistry, community, and conversations that felt timeless. In this episode, we’re decoding its lessons with the help of our special guest Lisa Cole, Chief Marketing Officer at 2X.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from embracing constant pivots, building your own Central Perk with your community, and why team chemistry often matters more than individual expertise.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Lisa Cole</strong></p><p>Lisa Cole is currently CMO at 2X. She's a strategic marketing leader with over 24 years of experience driving transformative growth for B2B technology and professional services. As a former CMO at Huron, FARO, and Cellebrite, she has earned industry recognition for enhancing brand positioning, optimizing demand generation, and leveraging AI to accelerate go-to-market strategies. Through her earned accolades from Sirius Decisions, Forrester, and CMO Alliance and her book The Revenue RAMP, she guides B2B leaders in achieving more with less using her proven frameworks. </p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>Friends</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Pivot, pivot, pivot.</strong> In marketing, staying still isn’t an option. New channels, new buyer behaviors, and now AI advancements mean marketers are in a constant state of change. Lisa explains, “Pivot is certainly one, especially now that, it seems like every week there’s a new advancement… marketing as a whole is pivot. We’re constantly in a period of time in between pivots is compressing.” The same way Ross couldn’t move that couch without shouting “Pivot!” every marketer today needs to be ready to shift strategy, adjust direction, and keep moving forward.</li><li><strong>Create your Central Perk.</strong> Every brand needs a place where buyers feel safe, connected, and part of something bigger than a transaction. For the <i>Friends</i> cast, it was Central Perk, a space where they could gather, vent, and support each other without judgment. Lisa says, “You have to create a place… where your target audience, your buyers feel safe to get together and meet and engage as a community… if you care about Central Perk for your buyers, then they’ll care about you too.” In B2B, that means investing in communities and experiences where customers can be candid, connect with peers, and build trust—with your brand quietly in the background.</li><li><strong>Build team chemistry. </strong>The <i>Friends</i> cast worked because the chemistry was real—something greater than the sum of its parts. Marketing teams are no different. Lisa says, “Sometimes it’s the chemistry that matters more than the expertise. 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Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Most brands talk about standing out. Very few actually do it. The ones that win are the ones willing to take a swing, sometimes even a wild one.</p><p>That’s exactly what GoDaddy did with the “Act Like You Know” campaign, a Super Bowl ad that became a cultural moment because of its boldness. In this episode, we explore the marketing lessons behind it with the help of our special guest Sydney Sloan, Chief Marketing Officer at G2.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from emotional storytelling, influencer culture, and why building brand in the age of AI requires creativity, boldness, and a willingness to have a little fun.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Sydney Sloan</strong></p><p>Sydney Sloan is a visionary marketing leader with a track record of driving growth and innovation in the tech industry. As CMO of G2, the world’s largest and most trusted software marketplace, Sydney is at the forefront of shaping the company's strategic direction. Sydney previously held CMO roles at compliance automation software company Drata, sales tech leader Salesloft, and cloud content management visionary Alfresco.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>GoDaddy’s “Act Like You Know” Campaign</strong><i><strong>:</strong></i></p><ul><li><strong>Take bold swings</strong>. Safe marketing doesn’t get noticed. To capture attention, B2B brands have to be willing to step outside the comfort zone and take real creative risks. As Sydney shared, “Take a big swing. Go do something outside of your comfort zone.” Boldness is the difference between blending in and breaking through.</li><li><strong>Your brand is the moat.</strong> With paid tactics getting harder, brand is the lasting advantage. It’s not about clicks or keywords anymore. It’s about the emotional connection people feel. As Sydney says, “Brand is right. It’s the emotional connection that you actually build between a brand, which is not a person… and the audience.” In the age of AI, trust and resonance are the true differentiators.</li><li><strong>Influencers aren’t just for B2C</strong>. Big-budget companies might hire celebrities, but every B2B brand can find ways to put people at the center of their story. It’s about connection, not just reach. Sydney explained, “You can still use influencers, you can still have people connecting to people and doing it in creative ways.” In B2B, credibility often comes best through people, not platforms.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>“We gotta go back and invest in brand. And what does that mean, and how do I do it? It’s not the old playbook. That thing is gone. Display, out the windows. Google search, out the window. We are all at the starting line together. And whoever's the most creative and figures out this new era we’re in has an unfair advantage.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Sydney Sloan, CMO at G2</p><p>[01:17] Why GoDaddy's “Act Like You Know” Campaign</p><p>[03:55] The Role of Influencers in B2B Marketing</p><p>[11:39] The Role of CMO at G2</p><p>[13:19] Understanding GoDaddy's “Act Like You Know” Campaign</p><p>[19:32] B2B Marketing Lessons from GoDaddy's “Act Like You Know” Campaign</p><p>[33:29] The Power of Creative Marketing</p><p>[37:50] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sydsloan/">Connect with Sydney on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.g2.com/">Learn more about G2</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 4 Sep 2025 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Meredith Gooderham, Sydney Sloan, Ian Faison)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most brands talk about standing out. Very few actually do it. The ones that win are the ones willing to take a swing, sometimes even a wild one.</p><p>That’s exactly what GoDaddy did with the “Act Like You Know” campaign, a Super Bowl ad that became a cultural moment because of its boldness. In this episode, we explore the marketing lessons behind it with the help of our special guest Sydney Sloan, Chief Marketing Officer at G2.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from emotional storytelling, influencer culture, and why building brand in the age of AI requires creativity, boldness, and a willingness to have a little fun.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Sydney Sloan</strong></p><p>Sydney Sloan is a visionary marketing leader with a track record of driving growth and innovation in the tech industry. As CMO of G2, the world’s largest and most trusted software marketplace, Sydney is at the forefront of shaping the company's strategic direction. Sydney previously held CMO roles at compliance automation software company Drata, sales tech leader Salesloft, and cloud content management visionary Alfresco.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>GoDaddy’s “Act Like You Know” Campaign</strong><i><strong>:</strong></i></p><ul><li><strong>Take bold swings</strong>. Safe marketing doesn’t get noticed. To capture attention, B2B brands have to be willing to step outside the comfort zone and take real creative risks. As Sydney shared, “Take a big swing. Go do something outside of your comfort zone.” Boldness is the difference between blending in and breaking through.</li><li><strong>Your brand is the moat.</strong> With paid tactics getting harder, brand is the lasting advantage. It’s not about clicks or keywords anymore. It’s about the emotional connection people feel. As Sydney says, “Brand is right. It’s the emotional connection that you actually build between a brand, which is not a person… and the audience.” In the age of AI, trust and resonance are the true differentiators.</li><li><strong>Influencers aren’t just for B2C</strong>. Big-budget companies might hire celebrities, but every B2B brand can find ways to put people at the center of their story. It’s about connection, not just reach. Sydney explained, “You can still use influencers, you can still have people connecting to people and doing it in creative ways.” In B2B, credibility often comes best through people, not platforms.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>“We gotta go back and invest in brand. And what does that mean, and how do I do it? It’s not the old playbook. That thing is gone. Display, out the windows. Google search, out the window. We are all at the starting line together. And whoever's the most creative and figures out this new era we’re in has an unfair advantage.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Sydney Sloan, CMO at G2</p><p>[01:17] Why GoDaddy's “Act Like You Know” Campaign</p><p>[03:55] The Role of Influencers in B2B Marketing</p><p>[11:39] The Role of CMO at G2</p><p>[13:19] Understanding GoDaddy's “Act Like You Know” Campaign</p><p>[19:32] B2B Marketing Lessons from GoDaddy's “Act Like You Know” Campaign</p><p>[33:29] The Power of Creative Marketing</p><p>[37:50] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sydsloan/">Connect with Sydney on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.g2.com/">Learn more about G2</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Being the underdog might feel like a disadvantage or your greatest marketing edge.</p><p>That’s the brilliance of Steph Curry’s story. He redefined basketball not by being the tallest or strongest, but by mastering the three-pointer, staying relentlessly consistent, and building an empire as the face of an underdog brand. In this episode, we explore the marketing lessons from Steph Curry with the help of our special guest Brian Gilman, Chief Marketing Officer at ThetaRay.</p><p>Together, we dig into what B2B marketers can learn from embracing the underdog role, cutting through noise with consistency, and focusing on doing one thing better than anyone else to create real brand gravity.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Brian Gilman</strong></p><p>Brian Gilam is the CMO at ThetaRay. He is a visionary Chief Executive with a proven track record in spearheading strategic B2B sales/marketing initiatives and driving robust growth. Brian excels in leading companies through critical transitions, including exit events and funding rounds, while managing large-scale projects and multi-million-dollar budgets. He is an expert in crafting high-ROI programs, fostering C-Level engagements, and negotiating impactful partnerships.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Steph Curry:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Play the underdog role.</strong> Steph could’ve gone with Nike or Adidas like every other superstar, but he signed with Under Armour, the underdog, and turned it into a cultural force. Brian says, “His role as an underdog… It’s endearing to be able to play the role of underdog as well as he does, and I think that’s why people resonate with him as well as they do.” For marketers, especially at scale-ups, that lesson is powerful: people root for challengers who feel accessible and relatable. Positioning your brand as the scrappy player in the game can create emotional connection far beyond features and price.</li><li><strong>Focus on consistency over noise.</strong> Steph’s greatness comes from showing up every day and blocking out distractions. Brian says, “He controls what he can control.” In marketing, the same discipline applies. Instead of chasing every channel or campaign, concentrate on the actions that matter most. Steph doesn’t let the highs get too high or the lows too low, he just executes. That consistency of effort is what makes him durable and dominant. For B2B, that means resisting the urge to “do it all” and instead building steady momentum with tactics that reliably drive results.</li><li><strong>Do one thing better than anyone else.</strong> Steph didn’t try to be everything, he mastered the three-pointer until it broke the NBA. Brian explains, “For me, it’s always do one thing really, really well. Forget about the marketing machine, you need that one thing, and then build the next thing.” Just as Curry’s deep shooting created “gravity” that opened the floor for teammates, one marketing strength executed brilliantly can lift all your other channels. Don’t spread yourself thin, find your version of the 30-foot three-pointer and own it.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>“I think that in today’s market, successful marketers are gonna throw out the book on convention. I’ve never seen such a highly competitive environment… and unless you’re thinking about speed, cutting out the number of touch points, and getting to that face-to-face interaction as fast as humanly possible, you’re never gonna get business anymore.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Brian Gilman, Chief Marketing Officer at ThetaRay</p><p>[01:03] Why Steph Curry?</p><p>[04:28] The Role of CMO of Thetaray</p><p>[06:23] Who is Steph Curry?</p><p>[26:58] B2B Marketing Takeaways from Steph Curry</p><p>[39:13] Brian's Marketing Strategy</p><p>[42:20] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/bgilman1/">Connect with Brian on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://thetaray.com/">Learn more about ThetaRay</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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Positioning your brand as the scrappy player in the game can create emotional connection far beyond features and price.</li><li><strong>Focus on consistency over noise.</strong> Steph’s greatness comes from showing up every day and blocking out distractions. Brian says, “He controls what he can control.” In marketing, the same discipline applies. Instead of chasing every channel or campaign, concentrate on the actions that matter most. Steph doesn’t let the highs get too high or the lows too low, he just executes. That consistency of effort is what makes him durable and dominant. For B2B, that means resisting the urge to “do it all” and instead building steady momentum with tactics that reliably drive results.</li><li><strong>Do one thing better than anyone else.</strong> Steph didn’t try to be everything, he mastered the three-pointer until it broke the NBA. Brian explains, “For me, it’s always do one thing really, really well. 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I’ve never seen such a highly competitive environment… and unless you’re thinking about speed, cutting out the number of touch points, and getting to that face-to-face interaction as fast as humanly possible, you’re never gonna get business anymore.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Brian Gilman, Chief Marketing Officer at ThetaRay</p><p>[01:03] Why Steph Curry?</p><p>[04:28] The Role of CMO of Thetaray</p><p>[06:23] Who is Steph Curry?</p><p>[26:58] B2B Marketing Takeaways from Steph Curry</p><p>[39:13] Brian's Marketing Strategy</p><p>[42:20] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/bgilman1/">Connect with Brian on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://thetaray.com/">Learn more about ThetaRay</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. 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      <description><![CDATA[<p>It’s not easy to make people rethink their assumptions. If you want to shift perception, you need to challenge expectations, gently, cleverly, and sometimes with a perfectly executed deepfake.</p><p>That’s the brilliance of Orange’s Women’s Soccer Ad, a mind-bending celebration of women’s soccer disguised as a highlight reel of men’s soccer. And in this episode, we’re decoding its genius with the help of our special guest Angie Westbrock, CEO of Standard AI.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from surprising your audience, staying true to both your brand and your customer, and not allowing biases to affect your content.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Angie Westbrock</strong></p><p>Angie Westbock’s mission is to build high-performance, diverse teams that transform challenges into opportunities. With a solid background as COO and now CEO, she thrives on aligning our company's strengths to create impactful solutions, all while cultivating a culture that celebrates diversity and encourages groundbreaking ideas.</p><p>Angie is currently serving as the CEO at Standard AI, a startup using AI and computer vision technology to help retailers and brands optimize operations and bottom lines through real-time insights into shoppers’ in-store experiences. With a non-traditional background beginning in CPG and then moving into tech, her experience spans from stealth start-ups to IPO to Fortune 500 companies. Leveraging this expertise in commercialization strategy and growth, Angie is able to guide organizations through every phase of development.</p><p> </p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Orange’s Women’s Soccer Ad:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Surprise your audience. </strong>Great marketing can earn attention through clever misdirection, then deliver a powerful payoff. The Orange ad didn’t just say women’s sports deserve respect,  it showed it by tricking viewers into watching with existing bias, then rewiring their perception. Angie explains, “Had they not executed the deepfake as well as they did, you would’ve noticed it from the beginning, and it would’ve just validated any of the biases that were already there.” The same applies to B2B: stop announcing your message, design it to unfold in a way that surprises and engages.</li><li><strong>Technology isn’t the story; the outcome is.</strong> Orange used advanced deepfake technology, but they never made that the headline. The ad wasn’t about AI, it was about bias, identity, and respect. The technology was the tool, not the message. “We always try to  tie it to the customer's use cases and ROI versus just about the tech,” says Angie. This is a trap many B2B companies fall into. You’re proud of your tech stack, your infrastructure, your proprietary model, and rightly so. But your buyer doesn’t care. They care about what your product helps them become. Sell the before and after, not the engine.</li><li><strong>Don’t let your biases affect your content. </strong>Too many B2B marketers create content for the people who already agree with them, existing customers, internal stakeholders, or the "safe" ICP. But powerful messaging challenges assumptions. Orange didn’t make an ad to celebrate women’s soccer for people who already love it, they made an ad to get skeptics to pause and rethink. Angie says, “It wasn’t just to the women to honor them and to empower them. It was actually to the men also, to say, you need to revisit your thinking here.” In B2B, you’re often selling change: a new workflow, a new tool, a new way of doing things. That means your messaging needs to meet people where they are, not where you wish they were.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>“ We get so caught up in what we want to say that we don't take into consideration the very specific viewpoints of the customer that you're selling to and making sure that it's going to land with them in a way that aligns with how they're thinking.</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Angie Westbrock, Chief Executive Officer at Standard AI</p><p>[01:00] Why Orange’s Women’s Soccer Ad </p><p>[01:50] What Standard AI Actually Does</p><p>[05:33] Why Physical Retail Is Still Underrated</p><p>[11:38] Designed for Rewatching and Social</p><p>[13:51] Real Tech, Real Players, Real Impact</p><p>[14:55] Messaging That Reaches the People Who Need to Hear It</p><p>[21:59] B2B Marketing Takeaways from Why Orange’s Women’s Soccer Ad </p><p>[34:38] Not a Cheap Trick — A Trusted Brand Moment</p><p>[38:13] It All Starts With a Single Shift in Mindset</p><p>[40:00] What Marketers Want From In-Store Strategy</p><p>[47:41] Standard AI’s Brand Strategy and Differentiation</p><p>[52:40] Final Thoughts: Break Through the Noise</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/angie-westbrock-a2581111/">Connect with Angie on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://standard.ai/">Learn more about Standard AI</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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The Orange ad didn’t just say women’s sports deserve respect,  it showed it by tricking viewers into watching with existing bias, then rewiring their perception. Angie explains, “Had they not executed the deepfake as well as they did, you would’ve noticed it from the beginning, and it would’ve just validated any of the biases that were already there.” The same applies to B2B: stop announcing your message, design it to unfold in a way that surprises and engages.</li><li><strong>Technology isn’t the story; the outcome is.</strong> Orange used advanced deepfake technology, but they never made that the headline. The ad wasn’t about AI, it was about bias, identity, and respect. The technology was the tool, not the message. “We always try to  tie it to the customer's use cases and ROI versus just about the tech,” says Angie. This is a trap many B2B companies fall into. You’re proud of your tech stack, your infrastructure, your proprietary model, and rightly so. But your buyer doesn’t care. 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Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Copy and paste content doesn’t build a connection. If you want your brand to resonate, you need to go deeper, more human, more emotional, more real.</p><p>That’s executed perfectly by <i>The Last of Us</i>, a post-apocalyptic story that became a global phenomenon not because of monsters, but because of its heart. In this episode, we’re taking a closer look with the help of our special guest, Ashley Emery, CMO at VelocityEHS.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from emotional storytelling, breaking traditional formats, and building real resonance with your audience (even in the most unexpected places).</p><p><strong>About our guest, Ashley Emery</strong></p><p>Ashley excels in driving growth and innovation in B2B technology organizations, both at the global enterprise and high-growth start-up scale. She holds an Executive MBA and specializes in demand generation and revenue-focused marketing strategies. Ashley has a proven track record of building and leading high-performing marketing teams, having served as Head of Global Campaigns for the Database and Analytics category at AWS, VP of Marketing at Emburse, and most recently, the SVP of Demand Generation at Employ, the parent company of JazzHR, Jobvite, and Lever.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> The Last of Us:</strong></i></p><ul><li><strong>Story comes before product</strong>. In B2B, it’s easy to get stuck in the habit of leading with features, capabilities, or technical specs. But as The Last of Us demonstrates, what draws people in is a story they care about, not a list of innovations. Your product may be powerful, but unless your audience understands how it impacts their world or identity, it won’t matter. Center the narrative on the customer’s journey, pain, and outcome, your product plays a supporting role in that transformation. This shift can completely reframe how you approach content, ads, and even your brand voice. Ashley advises, “Lead with a human-centric storytelling. Don’t sell features… the product is the enabler, it’s not the hero.”</li><li><strong>Your audience might not be who you think.</strong> “Even if you think you understand your audience, you may not,” said Ashley, who was surprised herself, as she was so drawn to the series. Just as The Last of Us broke out of its presumed “gamer” audience, B2B brands often have unexpected buyers, champions, or influencers they’re missing. Assumptions based on firmographics or industry stereotypes can be limiting. VelocityEHS found that their safety-focused customers were actually risk-tolerant thrill-seekers outside of work, which changed how they positioned messaging. This is a call to continuously validate personas, run qualitative interviews, and listen for nuance. Your best buyers may not look like your ICP on paper.</li><li><strong>The medium shapes the message. </strong>It’s not enough to have a great story, you have to tailor it to the channel and format. A 60-minute podcast moment doesn’t automatically become a good TikTok. Just like a video game plot doesn’t translate directly into a TV script, B2B content has to be rewritten for the medium it's living in. That means writing social hooks, designing natively for mobile, and assuming low context. Ian reminds us that, “-if you take an idea that Ashley says in minute 50 of a podcast and drop it onto LinkedIn, and the person has no context at all who this person is or what they do, then the actual insight itself isn’t as interesting or valuable.” Meet your audience where they are, mentally, emotionally, and contextually, or risk wasting great content on the wrong canvas.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>“Often in marketing, we get scared of emotion. We try to stay very neutral in our language. We don’t want to be provocative, we don’t want to be bold, and I think we as humans crave that. The show is a perfect example. The boldness, the emotional connection, and the conflict of the characters was really valuable. There’s so much raw emotion and connection in the stories that could be told, and not being afraid to tell an uncomfortable story… is powerful.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Ashley Emery, CMO at VelocityEHS.</p><p>[00:56] Why <i>The Last of Us</i>?</p><p>[01:42] The Role of CMO at VelocityEHS</p><p>[02:48] Breaking Down <i>The Last of Us</i></p><p>[26:47] B2B Marketing Lessons from <i>The Last of Us</i></p><p>[27:36] Human-Centric Storytelling in Marketing</p><p>[35:16 Understanding Your Audience</p><p>[38:43] Building an Ecosystem of Content</p><p>[40:20] The Importance of Star Power</p><p>[42:14] Embracing Emotional Tension in Marketing</p><p>[46:11] Final Thoughts & Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashley-emery-aws/">Connect with Ashley on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.ehs.com/">Learn more about VelocityEHS</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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This shift can completely reframe how you approach content, ads, and even your brand voice. Ashley advises, “Lead with a human-centric storytelling. Don’t sell features… the product is the enabler, it’s not the hero.”</li><li><strong>Your audience might not be who you think.</strong> “Even if you think you understand your audience, you may not,” said Ashley, who was surprised herself, as she was so drawn to the series. Just as The Last of Us broke out of its presumed “gamer” audience, B2B brands often have unexpected buyers, champions, or influencers they’re missing. Assumptions based on firmographics or industry stereotypes can be limiting. VelocityEHS found that their safety-focused customers were actually risk-tolerant thrill-seekers outside of work, which changed how they positioned messaging. This is a call to continuously validate personas, run qualitative interviews, and listen for nuance. Your best buyers may not look like your ICP on paper.</li><li><strong>The medium shapes the message. </strong>It’s not enough to have a great story, you have to tailor it to the channel and format. A 60-minute podcast moment doesn’t automatically become a good TikTok. Just like a video game plot doesn’t translate directly into a TV script, B2B content has to be rewritten for the medium it's living in. That means writing social hooks, designing natively for mobile, and assuming low context. Ian reminds us that, “-if you take an idea that Ashley says in minute 50 of a podcast and drop it onto LinkedIn, and the person has no context at all who this person is or what they do, then the actual insight itself isn’t as interesting or valuable.” Meet your audience where they are, mentally, emotionally, and contextually, or risk wasting great content on the wrong canvas.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>“Often in marketing, we get scared of emotion. We try to stay very neutral in our language. We don’t want to be provocative, we don’t want to be bold, and I think we as humans crave that. The show is a perfect example. The boldness, the emotional connection, and the conflict of the characters was really valuable. There’s so much raw emotion and connection in the stories that could be told, and not being afraid to tell an uncomfortable story… is powerful.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Ashley Emery, CMO at VelocityEHS.</p><p>[00:56] Why <i>The Last of Us</i>?</p><p>[01:42] The Role of CMO at VelocityEHS</p><p>[02:48] Breaking Down <i>The Last of Us</i></p><p>[26:47] B2B Marketing Lessons from <i>The Last of Us</i></p><p>[27:36] Human-Centric Storytelling in Marketing</p><p>[35:16 Understanding Your Audience</p><p>[38:43] Building an Ecosystem of Content</p><p>[40:20] The Importance of Star Power</p><p>[42:14] Embracing Emotional Tension in Marketing</p><p>[46:11] Final Thoughts & Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashley-emery-aws/">Connect with Ashley on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.ehs.com/">Learn more about VelocityEHS</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>When it comes to marketing, the boldest ideas often come from imagining a future no one else can see, then making it real.</p><p>That’s exactly what Stanley Kubrick achieved with <i>2001: A Space Odyssey</i>, a film that married meticulous research with visionary storytelling to create the most realistic depiction of space the world had ever seen. In this episode, we explore the marketing lessons behind it with the help of our special guest Josh Golden, CMO at Quad.</p><p>Together, we dive into how marketers can embrace risk, iterate through failure, compete on imagination rather than resources, and create experiences—both digital and physical—that deliver the elusive “wow” factor. All while staying relevant, resonant, and ready to invent the future.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Josh Golden</strong></p><p>As Chief Marketing Officer at Quad, Josh Golden is architecting the evolution of Quad as a marketing experience company. He leads a highly collaborative team that works with marketers around the world to clear the path for a frictionless solution to easily communicate with their optimal audience.</p><p>Quad’s clients are the lifeblood of its operations, driving the company’s evolution and influencing its every action. Josh is helping the company combine Quad’s history as a manufacturer and commercial printer with this marketer-obsessed philosophy to best support client growth and eliminate the interference that otherwise causes them to lose time, money, and customers.</p><p>Since assuming his role, Josh has defined the Quad brand narrative, developed the company’s “marketing experience” framing, implemented a new Quad design system and initiated brand and product marketing campaigns for key verticals.</p><p>With more than three decades of experience in marketing, branding, media, and content, Josh is one of the most prolific connectors in the marketing industry. Prior to joining Quad in 2021, Josh was President and Publisher of Ad Age where he spurred transformative growth for the venerable, 90-year trade publication and media brand. His passion for driving evolution was also on display as Vice President, Global Digital Marketing, at Xerox; Group Director of Digital Marketing at NBC Universal; Chief Digital Officer at Grey Group; Managing Director, Digital at Havas; and head of the first digital division at Young & Rubicam.</p><p>A self-proclaimed “professional groupie,” Josh avidly follows and cheers people who pursue their passions. He likes playing a little semi-aggressive tennis and makes a killer “cheater” banana bread. He lives in Westchester, NY with his wife and two teenage children.</p><p>Josh received his MBA from New York University and his B.S. in communications from Ithaca College.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>2001: A Space Odyssey</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Embrace the process, not just the end product. </strong>Kubrick went through a massive number of iterations before landing on the film we know and love today. Josh says, “There is not one singular moment; it’s a series of failures.” In marketing, abandoned ideas aren’t wasted. They’re the iterations that lead to something great. Like Kubrick, be willing to test, discard, and refine until you find the version that truly resonates. The process is the work.</li><li><strong>AI can execute, but humans inspire.</strong> Hal, the AI in <i>2001</i>, could run the ship, but couldn’t imagine a better way forward. Josh says, “ Humans have the capacity to do the wow factor.” AI can give you the exact steps to execute a campaign, but it can’t create the unexpected spark that makes it unforgettable. Your job as a marketer is to deliver that human insight and surprise that AI can’t replicate.</li><li><strong>Inspiration doesn’t have to start from scratch.</strong>2001 began as a loose adaptation of Arthur C. Clarke’s short story <i>The Sentinel</i>, but evolved far beyond it. Josh reflects, “You’re ultimately gonna go rewrite it in your own way.” In marketing, you can take inspiration from existing ideas, but the magic comes from reshaping them into something uniquely yours.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>“There’s moments that we all have as marketers where real ideas happen, and I celebrate those…but in truth…There is not one singular moment. It’s a series of failures…That inspiration is evident in the film, and it's evident that in the actual process of trying and failing and trying and failing and trying and failing, and then getting to a point where you're like, wow, this is actually kind of okay.’”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Josh Golden, CMO at Quad</p><p>[01:27] The Role of CMO at Quad</p><p>[02:54] Overview of <i>2001: A Space Odyssey</i></p><p>[21:45] B2B Marketing Lessons from <i>2001: A Space Odyssey</i></p><p>[25:28] The AI Character and Its Implications</p><p>[26:42] AI vs. Human Creativity</p><p>[43:21] Final Thoughts & Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuajgolden/">Connect with Josh on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.quad.com/">Learn more about Quad</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When it comes to marketing, the boldest ideas often come from imagining a future no one else can see, then making it real.</p><p>That’s exactly what Stanley Kubrick achieved with <i>2001: A Space Odyssey</i>, a film that married meticulous research with visionary storytelling to create the most realistic depiction of space the world had ever seen. In this episode, we explore the marketing lessons behind it with the help of our special guest Josh Golden, CMO at Quad.</p><p>Together, we dive into how marketers can embrace risk, iterate through failure, compete on imagination rather than resources, and create experiences—both digital and physical—that deliver the elusive “wow” factor. All while staying relevant, resonant, and ready to invent the future.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Josh Golden</strong></p><p>As Chief Marketing Officer at Quad, Josh Golden is architecting the evolution of Quad as a marketing experience company. 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Prior to joining Quad in 2021, Josh was President and Publisher of Ad Age where he spurred transformative growth for the venerable, 90-year trade publication and media brand. His passion for driving evolution was also on display as Vice President, Global Digital Marketing, at Xerox; Group Director of Digital Marketing at NBC Universal; Chief Digital Officer at Grey Group; Managing Director, Digital at Havas; and head of the first digital division at Young & Rubicam.</p><p>A self-proclaimed “professional groupie,” Josh avidly follows and cheers people who pursue their passions. He likes playing a little semi-aggressive tennis and makes a killer “cheater” banana bread. He lives in Westchester, NY with his wife and two teenage children.</p><p>Josh received his MBA from New York University and his B.S. in communications from Ithaca College.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>2001: A Space Odyssey</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Embrace the process, not just the end product. </strong>Kubrick went through a massive number of iterations before landing on the film we know and love today. Josh says, “There is not one singular moment; it’s a series of failures.” In marketing, abandoned ideas aren’t wasted. They’re the iterations that lead to something great. Like Kubrick, be willing to test, discard, and refine until you find the version that truly resonates. The process is the work.</li><li><strong>AI can execute, but humans inspire.</strong> Hal, the AI in <i>2001</i>, could run the ship, but couldn’t imagine a better way forward. Josh says, “ Humans have the capacity to do the wow factor.” AI can give you the exact steps to execute a campaign, but it can’t create the unexpected spark that makes it unforgettable. Your job as a marketer is to deliver that human insight and surprise that AI can’t replicate.</li><li><strong>Inspiration doesn’t have to start from scratch.</strong>2001 began as a loose adaptation of Arthur C. Clarke’s short story <i>The Sentinel</i>, but evolved far beyond it. Josh reflects, “You’re ultimately gonna go rewrite it in your own way.” In marketing, you can take inspiration from existing ideas, but the magic comes from reshaping them into something uniquely yours.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>“There’s moments that we all have as marketers where real ideas happen, and I celebrate those…but in truth…There is not one singular moment. It’s a series of failures…That inspiration is evident in the film, and it's evident that in the actual process of trying and failing and trying and failing and trying and failing, and then getting to a point where you're like, wow, this is actually kind of okay.’”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Josh Golden, CMO at Quad</p><p>[01:27] The Role of CMO at Quad</p><p>[02:54] Overview of <i>2001: A Space Odyssey</i></p><p>[21:45] B2B Marketing Lessons from <i>2001: A Space Odyssey</i></p><p>[25:28] The AI Character and Its Implications</p><p>[26:42] AI vs. Human Creativity</p><p>[43:21] Final Thoughts & Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuajgolden/">Connect with Josh on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.quad.com/">Learn more about Quad</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>When small-market teams face off against deep-pocketed competitors, winning means rewriting the rules of the game. </p><p>That’s exactly what happened in <i>Moneyball</i>, where the Oakland A’s turned to unconventional metrics and overlooked talent to outsmart the league’s biggest spenders. In this episode, we explore the marketing lessons behind it with the help of our special guest Scott Greenwald, CMO at Linedata.</p><p>Together, we dive into how B2B marketers can rethink the metrics that matter, compete asymmetrically against larger rivals, align teams around bold strategies, and tell stories that stick, all while staying credible, prepared, and ready to adapt.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Scott Greenwald</strong></p><p>At Linedata, Scott’s tenure as Chief Marketing Officer has been marked by the successful leadership of a dynamic, multi-lingual team and the creation of transformative digital marketing strategies. Our efforts have resulted in a staggering 600% year-over-year increase in web traffic, contributing significantly to a 20% generation of the sales pipeline.</p><p>Scott’s role extends to overseeing the marketing budget and launching a new CRM and Marketing Automation tool, which has streamlined Linedata’s pipeline review process and accelerated the sales cycle. With a focus on driving market visibility and thought leadership, Scott’s strategic campaigns across key global markets have empowered Linedata to cement its presence in the competitive financial services industry.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>Moneyball</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Focus on the outcomes that matter. </strong> In <i>Moneyball</i>, the point wasn’t to sign the flashiest “five-tool” players; it was to score runs. The same is true in marketing. Scott says, “In the end, it’s how many of the MQLs turn into opportunities or new business? And that’s what we focus on.” Metrics that look good in a report mean nothing if they don’t turn into real pipeline and closed deals. In B2B, your scoreboard isn’t impressions or clicks, it’s revenue.</li><li><strong>Credibility over volume in content. </strong>AI makes it easy to crank out more content than ever before, but more isn’t always better. “If we suddenly increased our, our, our output fivefold, we, we would lose that credibility,” Scott says. His team uses AI to adapt and reformat high-quality core pieces, not flood the market with fluff. Your audience notices when your content is consistent, credible, and worth their time—and they notice just as fast when it’s not.</li><li><strong>Compete asymmetrically. </strong>The A’s couldn’t outspend the Yankees or Red Sox, so they had to outthink them. That meant challenging every “sacred cow” in baseball and finding value others overlooked. Scott explains, “You can’t come in here and say, I’m going to transform this marketing organization into what I had before… you have to assess the talent pool [and] review the best way of spending the marketing budgets you have.” In marketing, the same rule applies: when you can’t match your competitors’ budget, you win by rewriting the playbook.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>“It is our responsibility as storytellers of not just giving the business what they want, but also giving the audience what they need to hear.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Scott Greenwal, CMO at Linedata</p><p>[01:04] Why <i>Moneyball</i>?</p><p>[06:45] Behind the Scenes of <i>Moneyball</i></p><p>[10:00] B2B Marketing Lessons from <i>Moneyball</i></p><p>[31:51] The Importance of Storytelling</p><p>[37:18] The Role of Communication in Change Management</p><p>[41:02] The Evolution of Marketing Automation</p><p>[45:30] Balancing Content Quality and Quantity</p><p>[47:00 Final Thoughts & Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-greenwald-2526958/">Connect with Scott on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linedata.com/">Learn more about Linedata</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When small-market teams face off against deep-pocketed competitors, winning means rewriting the rules of the game. </p><p>That’s exactly what happened in <i>Moneyball</i>, where the Oakland A’s turned to unconventional metrics and overlooked talent to outsmart the league’s biggest spenders. In this episode, we explore the marketing lessons behind it with the help of our special guest Scott Greenwald, CMO at Linedata.</p><p>Together, we dive into how B2B marketers can rethink the metrics that matter, compete asymmetrically against larger rivals, align teams around bold strategies, and tell stories that stick, all while staying credible, prepared, and ready to adapt.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Scott Greenwald</strong></p><p>At Linedata, Scott’s tenure as Chief Marketing Officer has been marked by the successful leadership of a dynamic, multi-lingual team and the creation of transformative digital marketing strategies. 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And that’s what we focus on.” Metrics that look good in a report mean nothing if they don’t turn into real pipeline and closed deals. In B2B, your scoreboard isn’t impressions or clicks, it’s revenue.</li><li><strong>Credibility over volume in content. </strong>AI makes it easy to crank out more content than ever before, but more isn’t always better. “If we suddenly increased our, our, our output fivefold, we, we would lose that credibility,” Scott says. His team uses AI to adapt and reformat high-quality core pieces, not flood the market with fluff. Your audience notices when your content is consistent, credible, and worth their time—and they notice just as fast when it’s not.</li><li><strong>Compete asymmetrically. </strong>The A’s couldn’t outspend the Yankees or Red Sox, so they had to outthink them. That meant challenging every “sacred cow” in baseball and finding value others overlooked. Scott explains, “You can’t come in here and say, I’m going to transform this marketing organization into what I had before… you have to assess the talent pool [and] review the best way of spending the marketing budgets you have.” In marketing, the same rule applies: when you can’t match your competitors’ budget, you win by rewriting the playbook.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>“It is our responsibility as storytellers of not just giving the business what they want, but also giving the audience what they need to hear.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Scott Greenwal, CMO at Linedata</p><p>[01:04] Why <i>Moneyball</i>?</p><p>[06:45] Behind the Scenes of <i>Moneyball</i></p><p>[10:00] B2B Marketing Lessons from <i>Moneyball</i></p><p>[31:51] The Importance of Storytelling</p><p>[37:18] The Role of Communication in Change Management</p><p>[41:02] The Evolution of Marketing Automation</p><p>[45:30] Balancing Content Quality and Quantity</p><p>[47:00 Final Thoughts & Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-greenwald-2526958/">Connect with Scott on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linedata.com/">Learn more about Linedata</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. 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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In a world full of polished content, authenticity is what truly cuts through.</p><p>That’s the secret behind <i>Armchair Expert</i>, the wildly popular podcast from Dax Shepard that mixes candid conversation with crowd-sourced chaos. In this episode, we unpack the marketing insights behind it with the help of our special guest Derek Weeks, Chief Marketing Officer at Katalon.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from building real connections, inviting community participation, and letting go of perfection to create content people genuinely trust and engage with.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Derek Weeks</strong></p><p>Derek Weeks is the Chief Marketing Officer at Katalon. He is a driven, results-oriented CMO with a proven ability to achieve multiple successful exits, build and execute bold go-to-market strategies for each stage of business growth, and demonstrate solid returns on marketing investments. Accomplished at building high-performing teams, driving quality marketing-sourced pipeline, developing massive communities, and collaborating with sales teams to meet business targets.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> the Armchair Expert Podcast</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Vulnerability builds trust and attention. </strong>Derek Weeks emphasizes that <i>Armchair Expert’s</i> standout quality is its authentic vulnerability, which creates a powerful emotional connection with listeners. He explains, “It’s really about being human… It builds an emotional connection with your brand.” Derek draws a parallel to B2B marketing, highlighting that it’s crucial to showcase real people behind the brand to forge trust.</li><li><strong>Mix long-form and short-form content strategically. </strong><i>Armchair Expert</i> masterfully balances 90-minute conversations with short, snackable segments like <i>Armchair Anonymous</i>. Derek believes this dual-format approach is essential for B2B marketing: “That kind of mix of long and short is something that you have to play into as a marketer and realize your audience expects different things at different times.” He stresses that marketers must go deep when it matters, but also repurpose content aggressively to cater to varied audience behaviors, especially across platforms like TikTok.</li><li><strong>Empower community-generated content. </strong>Derek praises <i>Armchair Expert</i> for its use of community-driven content through <i>Armchair Anonymous</i>, where listeners share personal stories weekly. He says, “They really don’t have to spend time creating content at all… believe in your community and the value that they create.” B2B marketers should harness their user-generated content to scale content creation far beyond the limits of a marketing budget.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>“ You have to think about what draws people to the next.  What did you do in that moment that got people to say, ‘This is worth following or paying attention to or coming back again?’  Figure out what's going to make people come back, not what makes people appear the first time.  The first time is kind of an easy win. The second time, or third time, or 10th time is the hard part.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55]  Meet Derek Weeks, CMO at Katalon</p><p>[01:23]  Why <i>Armchair Expert</i>?</p><p>[03:01] Vulnerability and Trust in B2B</p><p>[08:58]  Don’t Build Campaigns, Build Conversations</p><p>[13:37] The Long-Form to Short-Form Pipeline</p><p>[19:05] Unfair Mindshare</p><p>[21:47] What <i>Armchair Expert</i> Gets Right</p><p>[24:01] Practical Ways to Bring Personality into B2B</p><p>[27:38] Final Thoughts & Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/derekeweeks/">Connect with Derek on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://katalon.com/?utm_term=katalon&utm_campaign=AMER_Search_Brand&utm_source=adwords&utm_medium=search&hsa_acc=4390546474&hsa_cam=21323303160&hsa_grp=168608552371&hsa_ad=700654588518&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=kwd-315055977523&hsa_kw=katalon&hsa_mt=b&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=21323303160&gbraid=0AAAAABL3G8VM-I2drypGdIycqGKsY4Nn_&gclid=CjwKCAjwv5zEBhBwEiwAOg2YKD7DmAh5TOkGx5p2hOxMiPcyxN_Mdm4QFVkltNHNXulPc85SOakfTRoCRjYQAvD_BwE">Learn more about Katalon</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a world full of polished content, authenticity is what truly cuts through.</p><p>That’s the secret behind <i>Armchair Expert</i>, the wildly popular podcast from Dax Shepard that mixes candid conversation with crowd-sourced chaos. In this episode, we unpack the marketing insights behind it with the help of our special guest Derek Weeks, Chief Marketing Officer at Katalon.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from building real connections, inviting community participation, and letting go of perfection to create content people genuinely trust and engage with.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Derek Weeks</strong></p><p>Derek Weeks is the Chief Marketing Officer at Katalon. He is a driven, results-oriented CMO with a proven ability to achieve multiple successful exits, build and execute bold go-to-market strategies for each stage of business growth, and demonstrate solid returns on marketing investments. 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Derek believes this dual-format approach is essential for B2B marketing: “That kind of mix of long and short is something that you have to play into as a marketer and realize your audience expects different things at different times.” He stresses that marketers must go deep when it matters, but also repurpose content aggressively to cater to varied audience behaviors, especially across platforms like TikTok.</li><li><strong>Empower community-generated content. </strong>Derek praises <i>Armchair Expert</i> for its use of community-driven content through <i>Armchair Anonymous</i>, where listeners share personal stories weekly. He says, “They really don’t have to spend time creating content at all… believe in your community and the value that they create.” B2B marketers should harness their user-generated content to scale content creation far beyond the limits of a marketing budget.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>“ You have to think about what draws people to the next.  What did you do in that moment that got people to say, ‘This is worth following or paying attention to or coming back again?’  Figure out what's going to make people come back, not what makes people appear the first time.  The first time is kind of an easy win. 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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Turning into your parents might be your worst fear, or your biggest marketing opportunity.</p><p>That’s the brilliance of Progressive’s Dr. Rick campaign. It’s hilarious, deeply relatable, and sneakily strategic. In this episode, we explore the marketing lessons behind it with the help of our special guest Keri McGhee, Chief Marketing Officer at Attentive.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from character-driven storytelling, embracing creative risk, and using humor and relatability to create campaigns that people actually want to talk about.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Keri McGhee</strong></p><p>Keri McGhee is the CMO at Attentive, the AI marketing platform for leading brands. She leads strategic global marketing to further build the Attentive brand, overseeing product marketing, revenue marketing, events, partner marketing, communications and content, and brand creative. Keri's past experiences include leading marketing at various start-ups and as a senior director at Zillow, where she led the B2B marketing team of 60+ people, responsible for strengthening partner loyalty and experience for 60,000+ real estate partners. She got her start in tech at Expedia, leading both consumer and corporate travel marketing teams.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Progressive’s</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Dr. Rick Campaign:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Take creative risks.</strong> Keri’s central message is clear: great brand moments come from taking chances. “We take ourselves way too seriously in B2B.  So I think my advice is to step outside of the comfort zone of what the CFO, and the COO, and the CEO say yes to. And do the work to get the customer validation to pitch in some new idea..”<i> </i>B2B marketers often play it safe, focusing on product features, ROI charts, or thought leadership. But real differentiation happens when you create something unexpected, emotional, or funny. The Dr. Rick campaign could’ve flopped. Instead, it became a cultural reference point.</li><li><strong>Make your audience feel seen.</strong> The best ads are mirrors, not megaphones. Progressive tapped into a deep, relatable insecurity, “Am I becoming my parents?” Keri shares, “It's incredibly memorable, which I think is the most important thing in marketing right now.” For B2B, this could mean identifying moments of self-doubt, imposter syndrome, or job-related stress and playfully reflecting those back to the buyer.</li><li><strong>Build a fictional persona.</strong> A single viral hit is fleeting. A character-driven series builds long-term brand equity. Dr. Rick works because he’s a consistent, evolving character. He became a franchise. Most B2B brands invest in one-off videos or campaigns. But serialization keeps audiences coming back, like a show you binge-watch. Keri states, “  I can't think of any B2B that actually has been able to do that…Most of the true B2B play companies are not investing in brand in that way.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>“What we find with B2B buyers is they make decisions as people, not as the companies for which they're spending money for. We undervalue that a lot in B2B marketing…And the reality is, the things that are impossible to measure are where we are starting to place bigger bets because it's the only way to drive differentiation.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Keri McGhee, Chief Marketing Officer at Katalon</p><p>[01:06] Why Dr. Rick?</p><p>[02:45] The Psychology of Being Seen</p><p>[04:02] Who Is Dr. Rick?</p><p>[11:26] Branding in a Commoditized Industry</p><p>[13:59] Flow vs. Dr. Rick: A Franchise Strategy</p><p>[15:26] Why B2B Doesn’t Do This</p><p>[22:14] Parents vs. Homeowners</p><p>[26:35] Keri’s Top B2B Takeaway</p><p>[28:30] Creating Content Around Insecurity</p><p>[31:20] Why Brands Don’t Take Risks</p><p>[40:56] Final Thoughts & Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/keri-mcghee/">Connect with Keri on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.attentive.com/">Learn more about Attentive</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Turning into your parents might be your worst fear, or your biggest marketing opportunity.</p><p>That’s the brilliance of Progressive’s Dr. Rick campaign. It’s hilarious, deeply relatable, and sneakily strategic. In this episode, we explore the marketing lessons behind it with the help of our special guest Keri McGhee, Chief Marketing Officer at Attentive.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from character-driven storytelling, embracing creative risk, and using humor and relatability to create campaigns that people actually want to talk about.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Keri McGhee</strong></p><p>Keri McGhee is the CMO at Attentive, the AI marketing platform for leading brands. She leads strategic global marketing to further build the Attentive brand, overseeing product marketing, revenue marketing, events, partner marketing, communications and content, and brand creative. Keri's past experiences include leading marketing at various start-ups and as a senior director at Zillow, where she led the B2B marketing team of 60+ people, responsible for strengthening partner loyalty and experience for 60,000+ real estate partners. She got her start in tech at Expedia, leading both consumer and corporate travel marketing teams.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Progressive’s</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Dr. Rick Campaign:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Take creative risks.</strong> Keri’s central message is clear: great brand moments come from taking chances. “We take ourselves way too seriously in B2B.  So I think my advice is to step outside of the comfort zone of what the CFO, and the COO, and the CEO say yes to. And do the work to get the customer validation to pitch in some new idea..”<i> </i>B2B marketers often play it safe, focusing on product features, ROI charts, or thought leadership. But real differentiation happens when you create something unexpected, emotional, or funny. The Dr. Rick campaign could’ve flopped. Instead, it became a cultural reference point.</li><li><strong>Make your audience feel seen.</strong> The best ads are mirrors, not megaphones. Progressive tapped into a deep, relatable insecurity, “Am I becoming my parents?” Keri shares, “It's incredibly memorable, which I think is the most important thing in marketing right now.” For B2B, this could mean identifying moments of self-doubt, imposter syndrome, or job-related stress and playfully reflecting those back to the buyer.</li><li><strong>Build a fictional persona.</strong> A single viral hit is fleeting. A character-driven series builds long-term brand equity. Dr. Rick works because he’s a consistent, evolving character. He became a franchise. Most B2B brands invest in one-off videos or campaigns. But serialization keeps audiences coming back, like a show you binge-watch. Keri states, “  I can't think of any B2B that actually has been able to do that…Most of the true B2B play companies are not investing in brand in that way.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>“What we find with B2B buyers is they make decisions as people, not as the companies for which they're spending money for. We undervalue that a lot in B2B marketing…And the reality is, the things that are impossible to measure are where we are starting to place bigger bets because it's the only way to drive differentiation.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Keri McGhee, Chief Marketing Officer at Katalon</p><p>[01:06] Why Dr. Rick?</p><p>[02:45] The Psychology of Being Seen</p><p>[04:02] Who Is Dr. Rick?</p><p>[11:26] Branding in a Commoditized Industry</p><p>[13:59] Flow vs. Dr. Rick: A Franchise Strategy</p><p>[15:26] Why B2B Doesn’t Do This</p><p>[22:14] Parents vs. Homeowners</p><p>[26:35] Keri’s Top B2B Takeaway</p><p>[28:30] Creating Content Around Insecurity</p><p>[31:20] Why Brands Don’t Take Risks</p><p>[40:56] Final Thoughts & Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/keri-mcghee/">Connect with Keri on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.attentive.com/">Learn more about Attentive</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. 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      <description><![CDATA[<p>When AI feels like old news, the most remarkable storytellers don’t just talk about it, they show you something you’ve never seen before.</p><p>That’s exactly what happens in <i>Shell Game</i>, the mind-bending podcast where journalist Evan Ratliff clones his voice and lets it interact with the world without anyone knowing it’s not really him. In this episode, we explore the marketing lessons behind it with the help of our special guest Kelly Starman, Chief Marketing Officer at MasterControl.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from leading with curiosity, making space for creative risk, and crafting weird, emotional stories that people can’t help but talk about.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Kelly Starman</strong></p><p>Kelly Starman is a results-focused marketing executive with two decades of driving growth and leading high-performing teams. She has a strong track record in leading large-scale organizational change. Expertise in developing and implementing global go-to-market strategies in the healthcare and technology sectors, including positioning, branding & advertising, digital marketing, demand gen, and marketing automation. </p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>Shell Game</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li>Embrace the weird. Evan Ratliff’s podcast stands out because it dares to be different. In B2B, weird isn’t a liability—it’s an asset. “So much of B2B marketing is just boring,” Kelly says. “I love the idea of being weird… tapping into that and being memorable makes for great marketing.” If your content doesn’t break the pattern, it won’t break through.</li><li>Lead with curiosity. <i>Shell Game</i> works because it starts with a single, captivating question: what happens when you clone your own voice and let it speak for you? For Kelly, that spirit of experimentation is essential in modern marketing. “I have not had more fun in my career than I've had in the past six months,” she says. “It has been incredible to really step back and think about what is possible with all this new technology.” Curiosity isn’t just a mindset, it’s a strategy for discovering what’s next before your competitors do.</li><li>Curate, don’t just create. In a world of AI overload, audiences don’t want more content, they want <i>better</i> content. That’s where curation comes in. “I think there's just so much out there that I find myself really turning to like individuals that I trust,” Kelly says. As marketers, “How do you add value for your customers… where do you go for that curated content to stay as current as you can?” Being a trusted curator builds loyalty in a noisy market.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>“So much of B2B marketing is just boring... I love the idea of being weird. I usually say like, I want this to be really bold. I want this to be really breakthrough and attention-grabbing."</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Kelly Starman, Chief Marketing Officer at MasterControl</p><p>[01:07] Why <i>Shell Game</i>?</p><p>[02:53] The Role of CMO at MasterControl</p><p>[04:33] What is <i>Shell Game</i>?</p><p>[12:39] Breaking Down the Content in <i>Shell Game</i></p><p>[24:57] B2B Marketing Lessons from <i>Shell Game</i></p><p>[28:20] Super Accelerated Learning Techniques</p><p>[41:28] Mastercontrol's Marketing Strategy</p><p>[44:38] Measuring ROI Strategically</p><p>[47:56] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kstarman/">Connect with Kelly on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="http://mastercontrol.com">Learn more about MasterControl</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When AI feels like old news, the most remarkable storytellers don’t just talk about it, they show you something you’ve never seen before.</p><p>That’s exactly what happens in <i>Shell Game</i>, the mind-bending podcast where journalist Evan Ratliff clones his voice and lets it interact with the world without anyone knowing it’s not really him. In this episode, we explore the marketing lessons behind it with the help of our special guest Kelly Starman, Chief Marketing Officer at MasterControl.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from leading with curiosity, making space for creative risk, and crafting weird, emotional stories that people can’t help but talk about.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Kelly Starman</strong></p><p>Kelly Starman is a results-focused marketing executive with two decades of driving growth and leading high-performing teams. She has a strong track record in leading large-scale organizational change. Expertise in developing and implementing global go-to-market strategies in the healthcare and technology sectors, including positioning, branding & advertising, digital marketing, demand gen, and marketing automation. </p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>Shell Game</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li>Embrace the weird. Evan Ratliff’s podcast stands out because it dares to be different. In B2B, weird isn’t a liability—it’s an asset. “So much of B2B marketing is just boring,” Kelly says. “I love the idea of being weird… tapping into that and being memorable makes for great marketing.” If your content doesn’t break the pattern, it won’t break through.</li><li>Lead with curiosity. <i>Shell Game</i> works because it starts with a single, captivating question: what happens when you clone your own voice and let it speak for you? For Kelly, that spirit of experimentation is essential in modern marketing. “I have not had more fun in my career than I've had in the past six months,” she says. “It has been incredible to really step back and think about what is possible with all this new technology.” Curiosity isn’t just a mindset, it’s a strategy for discovering what’s next before your competitors do.</li><li>Curate, don’t just create. In a world of AI overload, audiences don’t want more content, they want <i>better</i> content. That’s where curation comes in. “I think there's just so much out there that I find myself really turning to like individuals that I trust,” Kelly says. As marketers, “How do you add value for your customers… where do you go for that curated content to stay as current as you can?” Being a trusted curator builds loyalty in a noisy market.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>“So much of B2B marketing is just boring... I love the idea of being weird. I usually say like, I want this to be really bold. I want this to be really breakthrough and attention-grabbing."</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Kelly Starman, Chief Marketing Officer at MasterControl</p><p>[01:07] Why <i>Shell Game</i>?</p><p>[02:53] The Role of CMO at MasterControl</p><p>[04:33] What is <i>Shell Game</i>?</p><p>[12:39] Breaking Down the Content in <i>Shell Game</i></p><p>[24:57] B2B Marketing Lessons from <i>Shell Game</i></p><p>[28:20] Super Accelerated Learning Techniques</p><p>[41:28] Mastercontrol's Marketing Strategy</p><p>[44:38] Measuring ROI Strategically</p><p>[47:56] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kstarman/">Connect with Kelly on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="http://mastercontrol.com">Learn more about MasterControl</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>When your audience thinks they already know your story, the boldest brands flip the script and earn their attention in the process. </p><p>That’s exactly what happens in <i>Wicked</i>, the smash-hit film adaptation that reimagines one of pop culture’s most iconic villains. In this episode, we explore the marketing lessons behind it with the help of our special guest Allison MacLeod, Chief Marketing Officer & GM of US Education at Flywire.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from reframing brand narratives, building fan-level community, and executing with bold, high-stakes detail that actually gets noticed.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Allison Macleod</strong></p><p>Allison Macleod currently serves as Chief Marketing Officer & Head of US Education at Flywire (Nasdaq: FLYW), a global payments enablement & software company. At Flywire, Allison leads global marketing and revenue operations, & US Education sales, relationship management & pre-sales. She played a key role in guiding Flywire to a successful IPO in May 2021.</p><p>Allison brings nearly 20 years of experience with a background spanning marketing and revenue-focused roles. Prior to Flywire, she spent seven years at Rapid7 (Nasdaq: RPD), where she played a pivotal role in building and scaling demand generation, business development, and analytics. Before that, she held various digital and field-based positions at Forrester, including launching the marketing function in EMEA.</p><p>Outside of work, Allison sits on the Board of Trustees of the Massachusetts Technology Leadership Council and serves as a strategic advisor to early-stage companies through F-Prime & Underscore VC.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>Wicked</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Reframe what they think they know.</strong> <i>Wicked</i> works because it flips a legacy story on its head. The same power lies in brand repositioning. “How do you really reframe what people think they know about you and your brand,” Allison says. Whether it’s entering new markets or expanding product lines, your biggest unlock might come from telling your old story in a completely new way.</li><li><strong>Community is your flywheel. </strong><i>Wicked</i> isn’t just a show, it’s a movement. Audiences don’t just watch it, they live it. That level of advocacy isn’t accidental. “How do you really cultivate that community, whether that's your clients, the advocacy, and make people… feel that deep passion for what you do,” Allison asks. In B2B, fandom might look like retention, referrals, or customer-led storytelling, but it starts with emotional connection.</li><li><strong>Be bold and unforgettable. </strong>Every production choice in <i>Wicked</i> is a masterclass in attention to detail. From the live vocals to the stunts, they took creative risks that resonated. “How do you be bold and unforgettable,” Allison says. The safest move in saturated categories? Standing out.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>“I think that's sort of the lesson and the beauty in this, taking something that everyone already thought they knew, and they thought they knew the story… and completely reframing it. And I think that’s where you just think of us as businesses, us as consumers… there’s so much clutter. So the brands that stick out and do things differently, and even if it is trying the same channel but in a different way, there’s so much power in that."</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Allison MacLeod, Chief Marketing Officer & GM of US Education at Flywire</p><p>[01:05] Why <i>Wicked</i>?</p><p>[02:29] The Role of CMO at Flywire</p><p>[04:00] Breaking Down of <i>Wicked</i></p><p>[09:22] B2B Marketing Takeaways from <i>Wicked</i></p><p>[21:54] The Appeal of Villains and Taking Risks</p><p>[23:37] The Power of Visual Design in Branding</p><p>[24:54] Marketing Strategies for Global Brands</p><p>[29:26] Flywire's Unique Differentiation Approach</p><p>[40:03] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/allisonbmacleod/">Connect with Allison on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="http://flywire.com">Learn more about Flywire</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Allison MacLeod, Ian Faison, Meredith Gooderham)</author>
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Audiences don’t just watch it, they live it. That level of advocacy isn’t accidental. “How do you really cultivate that community, whether that's your clients, the advocacy, and make people… feel that deep passion for what you do,” Allison asks. In B2B, fandom might look like retention, referrals, or customer-led storytelling, but it starts with emotional connection.</li><li><strong>Be bold and unforgettable. </strong>Every production choice in <i>Wicked</i> is a masterclass in attention to detail. From the live vocals to the stunts, they took creative risks that resonated. “How do you be bold and unforgettable,” Allison says. The safest move in saturated categories? Standing out.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>“I think that's sort of the lesson and the beauty in this, taking something that everyone already thought they knew, and they thought they knew the story… and completely reframing it. And I think that’s where you just think of us as businesses, us as consumers… there’s so much clutter. So the brands that stick out and do things differently, and even if it is trying the same channel but in a different way, there’s so much power in that."</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Allison MacLeod, Chief Marketing Officer & GM of US Education at Flywire</p><p>[01:05] Why <i>Wicked</i>?</p><p>[02:29] The Role of CMO at Flywire</p><p>[04:00] Breaking Down of <i>Wicked</i></p><p>[09:22] B2B Marketing Takeaways from <i>Wicked</i></p><p>[21:54] The Appeal of Villains and Taking Risks</p><p>[23:37] The Power of Visual Design in Branding</p><p>[24:54] Marketing Strategies for Global Brands</p><p>[29:26] Flywire's Unique Differentiation Approach</p><p>[40:03] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/allisonbmacleod/">Connect with Allison on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="http://flywire.com">Learn more about Flywire</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. 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      <description><![CDATA[<p>When timeless advertising principles meet today’s AI-saturated landscape, something surprising happens: the old rules still work.</p><p>Especially when we’re talking about the father of advertising himself, David Ogilvy. In this episode, we dive into his iconic book, <i>Ogilvy on Advertising,</i> with the help of our special guest Eric Williamson, CMO at CallMiner.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from Ogilvy’s approach: why specificity beats slogans, how research powers emotional storytelling, and why writing for humans is the real differentiator.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Eric Williamson</strong></p><p>As CallMiner’s Chief Marketing Officer, Eric oversees all global marketing functions from brand and events to demand generation. Eric’s marketing team works very closely with channel and sales to drive pipeline and CallMiner’s explosive growth. Eric has over 20 years of experience in both technology and consumer products marketing from both the vendor and agency side. Before joining CallMiner, Eric was VP Brand & Digital Marketing at Acquia — an open DXP platform built around Drupal — where he led brand, creative services, webops, editorial, and demand generation. </p><p>Prior to Acquia, Eric was on the agency side of marketing working as SVP Digital & Social at MullenLowe, and before that as VP Digital Strategy at The Martin Agency. During his career Eric has worked with a variety of B2C and B2B brands including Google, Microsoft, Intel, GEICO, Walmart, P&G, Pizza Hut, Acura, Royal Caribbean, and Hyatt. He earned his undergraduate degree from Texas A&M University, and an MBA from The University of Texas at Dallas.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>Ogilvy on Advertising</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li>Start with the line, not the logo. Great B2B brands don’t start with visuals, they start with voice. The sharpest creative begins on the page, not the mood board. “Copy first, research first, copy second, then worry about the visuals,” Eric says. In other words: write the line that earns attention before you pick the font.</li><li>Write for humans. Most B2B copy dies in a sea of jargon. What buyers actually want is to feel seen. “It’s really easy to fall into a place for a technology company to talk about your tech, talk about your features… and there’s nothing emotional about that,” Eric says. The fix is to start by writing for humans. Emotion isn’t a nice-to-have, it’s your edge.</li><li>Don’t guess, ask. You don’t need personas when you have real people. The best insights come from your customers, not your whiteboard. Eric says, “Just go talk to them…Why do they keep staying with you? What sort of thing that they worry about at night does this help solve for them?” The answers aren’t in your funnel. They’re in the field.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>“ Write for humans because, ultimately, that's who you're selling to, that's who you're trying to influence. It’s really understanding their emotions. What are their fears, what are their desires? Even in the B2B world, it's easy to forget that.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Eric Williamson, Chief Marketing Officer at CallMiner</p><p>[00:58] Why <i>Ogilvy On Advertising</i>?</p><p>[02:49] The Role of CMO at CallMiner</p><p>[03:38] Origins of <i>Ogilvy On Advertising</i></p><p>[06:56] B2B Marketing Takeaways from <i>Ogilvy on Advertising</i></p><p>[21:29] Ogilvy's Predictions</p><p>[37:23] CallMiner's Marketing Strategies</p><p>[41:57] AI as a Solution</p><p>[44:20] Advice for Marketing Leaders</p><p>[45:38] Final Thoughts & Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericwilliamson1/">Connect with Eric on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="http://callminer.com">Learn more about CallMiner</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When timeless advertising principles meet today’s AI-saturated landscape, something surprising happens: the old rules still work.</p><p>Especially when we’re talking about the father of advertising himself, David Ogilvy. In this episode, we dive into his iconic book, <i>Ogilvy on Advertising,</i> with the help of our special guest Eric Williamson, CMO at CallMiner.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from Ogilvy’s approach: why specificity beats slogans, how research powers emotional storytelling, and why writing for humans is the real differentiator.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Eric Williamson</strong></p><p>As CallMiner’s Chief Marketing Officer, Eric oversees all global marketing functions from brand and events to demand generation. Eric’s marketing team works very closely with channel and sales to drive pipeline and CallMiner’s explosive growth. Eric has over 20 years of experience in both technology and consumer products marketing from both the vendor and agency side. Before joining CallMiner, Eric was VP Brand & Digital Marketing at Acquia — an open DXP platform built around Drupal — where he led brand, creative services, webops, editorial, and demand generation. </p><p>Prior to Acquia, Eric was on the agency side of marketing working as SVP Digital & Social at MullenLowe, and before that as VP Digital Strategy at The Martin Agency. During his career Eric has worked with a variety of B2C and B2B brands including Google, Microsoft, Intel, GEICO, Walmart, P&G, Pizza Hut, Acura, Royal Caribbean, and Hyatt. He earned his undergraduate degree from Texas A&M University, and an MBA from The University of Texas at Dallas.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>Ogilvy on Advertising</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li>Start with the line, not the logo. Great B2B brands don’t start with visuals, they start with voice. The sharpest creative begins on the page, not the mood board. “Copy first, research first, copy second, then worry about the visuals,” Eric says. In other words: write the line that earns attention before you pick the font.</li><li>Write for humans. Most B2B copy dies in a sea of jargon. What buyers actually want is to feel seen. “It’s really easy to fall into a place for a technology company to talk about your tech, talk about your features… and there’s nothing emotional about that,” Eric says. The fix is to start by writing for humans. Emotion isn’t a nice-to-have, it’s your edge.</li><li>Don’t guess, ask. You don’t need personas when you have real people. The best insights come from your customers, not your whiteboard. Eric says, “Just go talk to them…Why do they keep staying with you? What sort of thing that they worry about at night does this help solve for them?” The answers aren’t in your funnel. They’re in the field.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>“ Write for humans because, ultimately, that's who you're selling to, that's who you're trying to influence. It’s really understanding their emotions. What are their fears, what are their desires? Even in the B2B world, it's easy to forget that.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Eric Williamson, Chief Marketing Officer at CallMiner</p><p>[00:58] Why <i>Ogilvy On Advertising</i>?</p><p>[02:49] The Role of CMO at CallMiner</p><p>[03:38] Origins of <i>Ogilvy On Advertising</i></p><p>[06:56] B2B Marketing Takeaways from <i>Ogilvy on Advertising</i></p><p>[21:29] Ogilvy's Predictions</p><p>[37:23] CallMiner's Marketing Strategies</p><p>[41:57] AI as a Solution</p><p>[44:20] Advice for Marketing Leaders</p><p>[45:38] Final Thoughts & Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericwilliamson1/">Connect with Eric on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="http://callminer.com">Learn more about CallMiner</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>When playbooks go stale and everyone’s chasing the next big AI breakthrough, the standout B2B brands are doing something else entirely. They’re building immersive worlds and inviting their audience in.</p><p>That’s exactly what happens in <i>Silo</i>, the hit Apple TV+ show, where attention to detail creates a gripping, lived-in universe. In this episode, we explore the marketing lessons behind it with the help of our special guest Karen Budell, Chief Strategy & Partnerships Officer at Totango.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from crafting immersive brand worlds, creating standout brand visuals, and building trust through curiosity and community.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Karen Budell</strong></p><p>Karen Budell is the Chief Strategy & Partnerships Officer at Totango, the industry-leading customer revenue suite that turns AI-powered intelligence into customer-led growth. She previously served as the company’s CMO, leading the marketing team responsible for brand and content, events, growth marketing, product marketing, and sales enablement. Budell is an active member of various CMO and GTM executive communities, including Pavilion, and serves on the G2 Executive Advisory Board. Budell previously held marketing leadership roles at SurveyMonkey, as Vice President, Brand Marketing, and Google.</p><p>During her four years with Google, Budell led a team responsible for narratives and brand building for YouTube Ads and was instrumental in launching Google Marketing Platform. Having found success working with businesses of all sizes, both private and public, Budell's 20-plus year career in brand building and leadership has been fueled by her roots in journalism and a passion for storytelling through integrated, content-fueled campaigns.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>Silo</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Craft your world, don’t just explain it.</strong> <i>Silo</i> hits because it’s immersive. Every dusty set and muted tone pulls you deeper into its reality. That kind of worldbuilding isn’t just for TV. “You need to create a unique world for your company, for your customers,” Karen says. In a sea of same-sounding content, your world is your edge and your responsibility.</li><li><strong>Curiosity is your competitive advantage.</strong> In <i>Silo</i>, curiosity is dangerous, but it’s also how characters discover the truth. The same holds for marketers. “That is one of the most important traits of a good marketer… curiosity,” Karen says. It’s not about having all the answers; it’s about asking better questions and letting that inquiry shape your strategy.</li><li><strong>Emotion is in the details. </strong><i>Silo</i> doesn’t rely on big exposition; it builds feeling through design. You don’t need to be told life underground is bleak. You <i>feel</i> it. “You feel claustrophobic as a viewer sitting at home watching this,” Karen says. “You feel like you’re underground with them and yearning for a glimpse of what’s outside.” In B2B, your content should do the same, evoke emotion through setting, tone, and texture, not just copy.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>"We are in a great period of unlearning and relearning. I think that’s what’s exciting to me. Being curious. That’s your superpower these days.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Karen Budell, Chief Strategy & Partnerships Officer at Totango</p><p>[01:35] Why <i>Silo</i>?</p><p>[03:17] Understanding <i>Silo</i></p><p>[07:51] B2B Marketing Lessons from <i>Silo</i></p><p>[22:34] The Power of Asking Questions</p><p>[30:12] YouTube Strategy for B2B Brands</p><p>[33:50] The Rise of Video Content</p><p>[37:43] Totango’s Brand & Content Strategies </p><p>[39:12] Events and Experiences in Marketing</p><p>[41:26] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/karenbudell/">Connect with Karen on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.totango.com/">Learn more about Totango</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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She previously served as the company’s CMO, leading the marketing team responsible for brand and content, events, growth marketing, product marketing, and sales enablement. Budell is an active member of various CMO and GTM executive communities, including Pavilion, and serves on the G2 Executive Advisory Board. Budell previously held marketing leadership roles at SurveyMonkey, as Vice President, Brand Marketing, and Google.</p><p>During her four years with Google, Budell led a team responsible for narratives and brand building for YouTube Ads and was instrumental in launching Google Marketing Platform. 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The same holds for marketers. “That is one of the most important traits of a good marketer… curiosity,” Karen says. It’s not about having all the answers; it’s about asking better questions and letting that inquiry shape your strategy.</li><li><strong>Emotion is in the details. </strong><i>Silo</i> doesn’t rely on big exposition; it builds feeling through design. You don’t need to be told life underground is bleak. You <i>feel</i> it. “You feel claustrophobic as a viewer sitting at home watching this,” Karen says. “You feel like you’re underground with them and yearning for a glimpse of what’s outside.” In B2B, your content should do the same, evoke emotion through setting, tone, and texture, not just copy.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>"We are in a great period of unlearning and relearning. I think that’s what’s exciting to me. Being curious. 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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Marketing isn’t just about pushing a product anymore. If you want to resonate, you need to think creatively, act authentically, and know when to take the spotlight off the brand and onto the people behind it.</p><p>That’s the magic of Jim Henson, where artistry meets innovation, and characters become cultural icons. In this episode, we tap into that enduring creative power with the help of our special guest, Adam Kranitz, Chief Marketing Officer at Resilio.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from narrative consistency, egoless collaboration, and why it’s time to stop making “content” and start telling stories that actually matter.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Adam Kranitz</strong></p><p>Adam leads the marketing organization at Resilio, responsible for demand marketing, brand, and corporate communications. He is an experienced technology marketing leader with expertise in building and leading global marketing teams and strategies that grow revenue, increase product adoption, and build mindshare with competitive differentiation.</p><p>Adam has led vision, strategy, and execution for all facets of B2B technology marketing, aligned with sales teams, for publicly traded technology firms, including Avid (NASDAQ: AVID) and Paychex (NASDAQ: PAYX), and SaaS start-ups, including CloudCheckr (acquired by NetApp) and LucidLink.</p><p>Adam’s customer-centric marketing approach has recently produced industry leadership recognition for his companies with a G2 Leader Report for Cloud File Storage and category leader in Cloud Management Wave report by Forrester Research.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Jim Henson Idea Man:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Entertainment first, selling second.</strong> Jim Henson’s early commercials didn’t start with a coffee can—they started with chaos, characters, and charm. Adam puts it plainly: “Do we wanna beat people over the head with the technical benefits of the product, or do we wanna entertain and educate our prospects?” The goal isn’t to pitch—it's to engage. Use storytelling to earn attention before you explain the value.</li><li><strong>Narrative consistency pays off</strong>. Kermit hasn’t changed. Neither should your core brand story. “If we haven't landed our message and are consistently delivering it over time, through multiple channels… what have you created?” Adam asks. Like the Muppets, your brand needs to adapt across formats but stay true to character. A consistent voice builds trust—and keeps you top of mind.</li><li><strong>Let your experts do the talking</strong>. Your audience doesn’t want to hear from the brand. They want to hear from the people behind it. “Nobody wants to see an AI talking head avatar… You've got smart people in your organization, it's your job as marketers to coach them up.” For Resilio, spotlighting their CTO, CPO, and CEO on LinkedIn unlocked real results. Empower your experts. That’s who your buyers want to meet.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>*“The best part of my job is when I get to get on a platform like this and do a video interview with one of our customers… and then they kind of unprompted will talk about how much they love Resilio… That magic moment where it clicked for them—that is just magic.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Adam Kranitz, Chief Marketing Officer at Resilio</p><p>[00:56] Why Jim Henson Idea Man?</p><p>[04:01] The Role of CMO at Resilio</p><p>[05:31] Origins of Jim Henson Idea Man Documentary</p><p>[13:07] The Creative Genius of Jim Henson</p><p>[25:14] B2B Marketing Takeaways from Jim Henson</p><p>[38:37] The Power of Serialized Content</p><p>[42:49] The Importance of Video in Modern Marketing</p><p>[52:59] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamkranitz/">Connect with Adam on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="http://resilio.com">Learn more about Resilio</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Some of the best campaigns don’t come from massive budgets or high-gloss production. They come from leaning into what feels real. Currys’ Gen Z ads are a perfect example: low-fi, deadpan, and unexpectedly brilliant.</p><p>In this episode, we’re unpacking what made this retail campaign a breakout success with the help of our special guest David Hooker, Director of Brand at Printful and Printify.</p><p>Together, they explore what B2B marketers can learn from embracing scrappy creativity, building brand affinity over awareness, and trusting that great content doesn’t need to sell a product—it just needs to make people care.</p><p><strong>About our guest, David Hooker</strong></p><p>David Hooker is the Director of Brand at Printify and Printful. He’s an experienced Creative Director and Brand Manager. Built the Prezi Evangelism and Creative Services teams. Seasoned speaker, including TED-X Talk (see below). David built the Brand and PR function at TravelPerk, securing coverage in Wired, TechCrunch, Sky News, Al Jazeera, Financial Times, Business Insider, Handelsblatt, Süddeutsche Zeitung, and the BBC. </p><p>He’s currently helping empower entrepreneurs at Printify and Printful. </p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Currys’ Gen Z ads</strong><i><strong>:</strong></i></p><ul><li><strong>You don’t need a big budget to make standout content.</strong> Some of the most impactful marketing doesn’t come from a fancy studio—it comes from a phone camera, an employee, and a smart idea. David says, “You don't have to spend thousands and thousands of dollars to make really good, great content that works.” Don’t wait for budget approvals. Focus on originality and execution.</li><li><strong>B2B still means you’re selling to people.</strong> Behind every buying committee is a group of humans—ones who laugh, scroll, and crave connection just like everyone else. David says, “You are B2B, but that B is a population of people… you can create great quality content that brightens up people’s day, that generates awareness and an affinity for your brand.” Lead with humanity, not just logic.</li><li><strong>Ignore the naysayers—go make something people love.</strong> Not every campaign needs to hit every KPI to be worth doing. Sometimes the boldest ideas face the most resistance—and deliver the most impact. David says, “I'm sure there was someone in the meeting room… who went, ‘How are they gonna know where our stores are?’ But the naysayer was wrong. If you make really great quality content that people connect with, enjoy—it’s going to do good things for your marketing.” Make the thing. Publish the thing. Let the audience prove it out.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>*“ You don't have to spend thousands and thousands of dollars to make really great content that works. Investing in the content and the quality of the content always pays off… Your B2B, but that B is a population of people, right? You've got an ecosystem of decision makers, but they're all human beings at least for the moment…You can create great quality content that brightens up people's day, that generates awareness and an affinity for your brand, without spending a lot if you focus on the content itself.”</p><p>Time Stamps</p><p>[00:55] Meet David Hooker, Director of Brand at Printify and Printful</p><p>[01:08] Why Currys' Gen Z ads?</p><p>[02:35] The Origin Story of Printful and Printify</p><p>[09:32] The Power of Merch</p><p>[13:38] The Demand for Personalization</p><p>[24:11] Understanding the Currys’ Gen Z Ad Campaign</p><p>[33:11] B2B Marketing Lessons from the Gen Z Currys' Ads</p><p>[40:41] Authenticity in Advertising</p><p>[52:21] Advice for Brand Leaders</p><p>[54:26] Importance of Visual Literacy</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hookerdj/?originalSubdomain=uk">Connect with David on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://printify.com/">Learn more about Printify</a></p><p><a href="https://www.printful.com/create">Learn more about Printful</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the best campaigns don’t come from massive budgets or high-gloss production. They come from leaning into what feels real. Currys’ Gen Z ads are a perfect example: low-fi, deadpan, and unexpectedly brilliant.</p><p>In this episode, we’re unpacking what made this retail campaign a breakout success with the help of our special guest David Hooker, Director of Brand at Printful and Printify.</p><p>Together, they explore what B2B marketers can learn from embracing scrappy creativity, building brand affinity over awareness, and trusting that great content doesn’t need to sell a product—it just needs to make people care.</p><p><strong>About our guest, David Hooker</strong></p><p>David Hooker is the Director of Brand at Printify and Printful. He’s an experienced Creative Director and Brand Manager. Built the Prezi Evangelism and Creative Services teams. Seasoned speaker, including TED-X Talk (see below). David built the Brand and PR function at TravelPerk, securing coverage in Wired, TechCrunch, Sky News, Al Jazeera, Financial Times, Business Insider, Handelsblatt, Süddeutsche Zeitung, and the BBC. </p><p>He’s currently helping empower entrepreneurs at Printify and Printful. </p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Currys’ Gen Z ads</strong><i><strong>:</strong></i></p><ul><li><strong>You don’t need a big budget to make standout content.</strong> Some of the most impactful marketing doesn’t come from a fancy studio—it comes from a phone camera, an employee, and a smart idea. David says, “You don't have to spend thousands and thousands of dollars to make really good, great content that works.” Don’t wait for budget approvals. Focus on originality and execution.</li><li><strong>B2B still means you’re selling to people.</strong> Behind every buying committee is a group of humans—ones who laugh, scroll, and crave connection just like everyone else. David says, “You are B2B, but that B is a population of people… you can create great quality content that brightens up people’s day, that generates awareness and an affinity for your brand.” Lead with humanity, not just logic.</li><li><strong>Ignore the naysayers—go make something people love.</strong> Not every campaign needs to hit every KPI to be worth doing. Sometimes the boldest ideas face the most resistance—and deliver the most impact. David says, “I'm sure there was someone in the meeting room… who went, ‘How are they gonna know where our stores are?’ But the naysayer was wrong. If you make really great quality content that people connect with, enjoy—it’s going to do good things for your marketing.” Make the thing. Publish the thing. Let the audience prove it out.</li></ul><p><strong>Quote</strong></p><p>*“ You don't have to spend thousands and thousands of dollars to make really great content that works. Investing in the content and the quality of the content always pays off… Your B2B, but that B is a population of people, right? You've got an ecosystem of decision makers, but they're all human beings at least for the moment…You can create great quality content that brightens up people's day, that generates awareness and an affinity for your brand, without spending a lot if you focus on the content itself.”</p><p>Time Stamps</p><p>[00:55] Meet David Hooker, Director of Brand at Printify and Printful</p><p>[01:08] Why Currys' Gen Z ads?</p><p>[02:35] The Origin Story of Printful and Printify</p><p>[09:32] The Power of Merch</p><p>[13:38] The Demand for Personalization</p><p>[24:11] Understanding the Currys’ Gen Z Ad Campaign</p><p>[33:11] B2B Marketing Lessons from the Gen Z Currys' Ads</p><p>[40:41] Authenticity in Advertising</p><p>[52:21] Advice for Brand Leaders</p><p>[54:26] Importance of Visual Literacy</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hookerdj/?originalSubdomain=uk">Connect with David on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://printify.com/">Learn more about Printify</a></p><p><a href="https://www.printful.com/create">Learn more about Printful</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>What does it take to make a B2B show that lasts 150 episodes—and gets better with age?</p><p>In this special milestone episode, co-hosts Ian Faison, CEO of Caspian Studios, and Meredith Gooderham, Head of Production at Caspian, reflect on the lessons, mistakes, surprises, and joys of building Remarkable over the last few years. From behind-the-scenes pivots to favorite creative risks, this candid conversation offers a meta-view into what makes B2B content stand out—and what happens when you treat your show like the most important product your marketing team will ever build.</p><p>Whether you’re a longtime listener or just tuning in, this episode is packed with real talk, marketing takeaways, and a few inside stories about what it takes to create content that connects.</p><p><strong>What We’ve Learned From Creating 149 Episodes: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Original ideas are harder—but worth it. </strong>Great content almost always starts with one person pushing an idea through resistance. From <i>Murder in HR</i> to documentary-style storytelling, the best creative work came from taking risks and backing a vision—despite obstacles or skepticism.</li><li><strong>Passion beats polish. </strong>The most compelling episodes are when guests bring personal enthusiasm for a topic—whether it’s fishing, Formula 1, or reality TV. That energy translates into richer insights, better marketing takeaways, and more authentic conversations.</li><li><strong>B2B content doesn’t have to look like B2B</strong>. Audiences crave genres they already love—like comedy, true crime, or documentary. When B2B brands stop copying each other and start tapping into broader content formats, they unlock massive creative potential.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>“ I would do this show if nobody listened because it's so valuable for me to talk to other brilliant marketing people about what inspires them, because it inspires so much of my own creativity.”</p><p>“ It takes conviction to be able to sell a big idea, and big swings make big hits. And that happens over and over and over again.”</p><p>“ Playing it safe is not safe.”</p><p>“ It's so cool to find out what people are excited about outside of work, but also to combine that with their expertise and see what lessons they can draw from it. And how they're using their personal life in their professional life and vice versa has been super cool.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[01:10] Reflecting on 149 Episodes</p><p>[02:44] Lessons From Creating Great Content</p><p>[08:29] Partnering for Success</p><p>[10:55] Taking Risks in Marketing</p><p>[14:53] Takeaways from 149 Episodes</p><p>[35:57] Mistakes and Lessons Learned</p><p>[46:30] Guest Booking Insights</p><p>[48:24] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ianfaison/">Connect with Ian on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/meredith-gooderham-9228a3142/">Connect with Meredith on LinkedIn</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 3 Jul 2025 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does it take to make a B2B show that lasts 150 episodes—and gets better with age?</p><p>In this special milestone episode, co-hosts Ian Faison, CEO of Caspian Studios, and Meredith Gooderham, Head of Production at Caspian, reflect on the lessons, mistakes, surprises, and joys of building Remarkable over the last few years. From behind-the-scenes pivots to favorite creative risks, this candid conversation offers a meta-view into what makes B2B content stand out—and what happens when you treat your show like the most important product your marketing team will ever build.</p><p>Whether you’re a longtime listener or just tuning in, this episode is packed with real talk, marketing takeaways, and a few inside stories about what it takes to create content that connects.</p><p><strong>What We’ve Learned From Creating 149 Episodes: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Original ideas are harder—but worth it. </strong>Great content almost always starts with one person pushing an idea through resistance. From <i>Murder in HR</i> to documentary-style storytelling, the best creative work came from taking risks and backing a vision—despite obstacles or skepticism.</li><li><strong>Passion beats polish. </strong>The most compelling episodes are when guests bring personal enthusiasm for a topic—whether it’s fishing, Formula 1, or reality TV. That energy translates into richer insights, better marketing takeaways, and more authentic conversations.</li><li><strong>B2B content doesn’t have to look like B2B</strong>. Audiences crave genres they already love—like comedy, true crime, or documentary. When B2B brands stop copying each other and start tapping into broader content formats, they unlock massive creative potential.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>“ I would do this show if nobody listened because it's so valuable for me to talk to other brilliant marketing people about what inspires them, because it inspires so much of my own creativity.”</p><p>“ It takes conviction to be able to sell a big idea, and big swings make big hits. And that happens over and over and over again.”</p><p>“ Playing it safe is not safe.”</p><p>“ It's so cool to find out what people are excited about outside of work, but also to combine that with their expertise and see what lessons they can draw from it. And how they're using their personal life in their professional life and vice versa has been super cool.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[01:10] Reflecting on 149 Episodes</p><p>[02:44] Lessons From Creating Great Content</p><p>[08:29] Partnering for Success</p><p>[10:55] Taking Risks in Marketing</p><p>[14:53] Takeaways from 149 Episodes</p><p>[35:57] Mistakes and Lessons Learned</p><p>[46:30] Guest Booking Insights</p><p>[48:24] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ianfaison/">Connect with Ian on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/meredith-gooderham-9228a3142/">Connect with Meredith on LinkedIn</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Sponsorships aren't just about slapping your logo on something anymore. If you want to make an impact, you need to think bigger, bolder—and know when to step into the driver’s seat.</p><p>That’s the appeal of F1 sponsorships, where precision meets pageantry, and brand integration is as strategic as the race itself. In this episode, we tap into that high-speed energy with the help of our special guest, Ondar Tarlow, marketing consultant for action sports. </p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from global sponsorships, smart storytelling, and knowing when to go all in—and when to walk away.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Ondar Tarlow</strong></p><p>Ondar Tarlow has over 20 years of experience in marketing and branding. He’s known for engaging audiences through data-driven insights and witty, creative storytelling to achieve results. He has been leveraging AI to boost campaign performance results by 5x with propensity models and cutting production time by 75% using Generative AI tools like ChatGPT and Adobe Firefly, all while upholding IP standards.</p><p>As Chief Marketing Officer at Kinecta Federal Credit Union and Pacific Premier Bank, he spearheaded award-winning campaigns that resulted in over $1.7 billion in product volume and tens of thousands of new customers. These successes earned him industry recognition, including Diamond Awards for brand awareness and a Top 100 Marketer award.</p><p>Currently, Ondar serves as a marketing consultant for motorsports, financial, and lifestyle brands, partnering with organizations like Fast Lane Drive. His passion for motorsports, including attending 11 Formula 1 races worldwide, inspires his focus on high-performance teamwork and precision. Ondar’s sponsorship expertise - demonstrated through collaborations with the LA Chargers, LA Galaxy, Anaheim Ducks, Luft 10 (Porsche), and BeachLife Music Festival - highlights his ability to connect brands with their ideal target audiences. </p><p>Ondar holds a BA in Psychology from California State University, Northridge, and has earned digital marketing certifications from UCLA and trained with the American Red Cross in Crisis Communications and Media Relations. Ondar is also dedicated to community development, serving on the board of Junior Achievement, which provides youth with financial education and career readiness tools.</p><p>What B2B Companies Can Learn From F1 Sponsorships:</p><ul><li><strong>Don’t just show up—integrate.</strong> It’s not enough to slap your logo on something and call it a day. True brand partnerships go deeper. “Really any company that can afford it, can get a logo. But when you're doing a true brand integration like Oracle has done with Red Bull, that's really where things can pay off.” The ROI comes from relevance, not just visibility. Think about how your product can become part of the story.</li><li><strong>No plan, no payoff.</strong> As Ondar puts it: “Plan, plan. plan. And then data, data, and data.” B2B marketers must tie sponsorships to broader company strategy from the very beginning. That means aligning with your CEO and CFO, knowing what problem you're trying to solve, and figuring out how to measure impact—before you sign the dotted line.</li><li><strong>Go niche to go big.</strong> F1’s PacSun collaboration proves you don’t have to outspend Rolex to make an impact. You just need the right story. “They really thought about it... and what they've been able to create is an interest in F1 from this demographic.” By focusing on Gen Alpha and teenage girls, PacSun built a new fanbase and drove fashion sales—without buying trackside banners. In B2B, the same principle applies: niche audiences, well-served, can generate outsized returns.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“You have to test. There's going to be periods of time where you're gonna do something new, and you can't be afraid to fail…When you're finding out something that's working, then you need to double down and you need to take the risks. You need to take those risks and move forward with them. Things that aren't working, don't marry yourself to them. Figure out what you need to tweak and then continue to test. Marketing is not an exact science.”</p><p>*“ Plan, plan, plan, and then data, data, and data. So first off, the plan is you have to make sure you're aware of what the strategy is of the company that you're with. And if you're a CMO, you're obviously responsible for the marketing strategy, and you should have a seat at the table as part of developing the strategy as far as the company, in a whole. So that's first off, and then understanding exactly what the challenge is, and then how are you going to be able to come up with a solution based on the decisions that you're making based on brand integration. And then from there is what data can you capture and how can you utilize that data so that you can drive metrics and those reporting metrics to show exactly what the benefit is of the partnership is that you're involved with.”</p><p>*“ Brands can really leverage [figuring] out what the storyline is. To get the human aspect to it. And I think that that is a great opportunity for brands to look at is that if they're gonna invest in a driver or they're gonna invest in a team is what personalities are making up that team there.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Ondar Tarlow, marketing consultant for action sports. </p><p>[01:07] Why F1 Sponsorships?</p><p>[02:59] Ondar's Background</p><p>[04:50] The Rise of F1 in the US</p><p>[06:34] Understanding F1 Sponsorships</p><p>[11:28] ROI on F1 Sponsorships</p><p>[15:03] Drive to Survive: Impact on F1</p><p>[18:08] Anatomy of an F1 Sponsorship Deal</p><p>[24:47] The High Stakes of F1 Sponsorships</p><p>[28:25] The Appeal of F1 Events</p><p>[29:32] Strategic Brand Integration in F1 Sponsorships</p><p>[36:34] The Importance of Planning and Data in Sponsorships</p><p>[40:53] Leveraging F1 Storylines for Brand Success</p><p>[45:06] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ondar/">Connect with Ondar on LinkedIn</a></p><p>About Remarkable!</p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sponsorships aren't just about slapping your logo on something anymore. If you want to make an impact, you need to think bigger, bolder—and know when to step into the driver’s seat.</p><p>That’s the appeal of F1 sponsorships, where precision meets pageantry, and brand integration is as strategic as the race itself. In this episode, we tap into that high-speed energy with the help of our special guest, Ondar Tarlow, marketing consultant for action sports. </p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from global sponsorships, smart storytelling, and knowing when to go all in—and when to walk away.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Ondar Tarlow</strong></p><p>Ondar Tarlow has over 20 years of experience in marketing and branding. He’s known for engaging audiences through data-driven insights and witty, creative storytelling to achieve results. 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Ondar’s sponsorship expertise - demonstrated through collaborations with the LA Chargers, LA Galaxy, Anaheim Ducks, Luft 10 (Porsche), and BeachLife Music Festival - highlights his ability to connect brands with their ideal target audiences. </p><p>Ondar holds a BA in Psychology from California State University, Northridge, and has earned digital marketing certifications from UCLA and trained with the American Red Cross in Crisis Communications and Media Relations. Ondar is also dedicated to community development, serving on the board of Junior Achievement, which provides youth with financial education and career readiness tools.</p><p>What B2B Companies Can Learn From F1 Sponsorships:</p><ul><li><strong>Don’t just show up—integrate.</strong> It’s not enough to slap your logo on something and call it a day. True brand partnerships go deeper. “Really any company that can afford it, can get a logo. But when you're doing a true brand integration like Oracle has done with Red Bull, that's really where things can pay off.” The ROI comes from relevance, not just visibility. Think about how your product can become part of the story.</li><li><strong>No plan, no payoff.</strong> As Ondar puts it: “Plan, plan. plan. And then data, data, and data.” B2B marketers must tie sponsorships to broader company strategy from the very beginning. That means aligning with your CEO and CFO, knowing what problem you're trying to solve, and figuring out how to measure impact—before you sign the dotted line.</li><li><strong>Go niche to go big.</strong> F1’s PacSun collaboration proves you don’t have to outspend Rolex to make an impact. 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So first off, the plan is you have to make sure you're aware of what the strategy is of the company that you're with. And if you're a CMO, you're obviously responsible for the marketing strategy, and you should have a seat at the table as part of developing the strategy as far as the company, in a whole. So that's first off, and then understanding exactly what the challenge is, and then how are you going to be able to come up with a solution based on the decisions that you're making based on brand integration. And then from there is what data can you capture and how can you utilize that data so that you can drive metrics and those reporting metrics to show exactly what the benefit is of the partnership is that you're involved with.”</p><p>*“ Brands can really leverage [figuring] out what the storyline is. To get the human aspect to it. And I think that that is a great opportunity for brands to look at is that if they're gonna invest in a driver or they're gonna invest in a team is what personalities are making up that team there.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Ondar Tarlow, marketing consultant for action sports. </p><p>[01:07] Why F1 Sponsorships?</p><p>[02:59] Ondar's Background</p><p>[04:50] The Rise of F1 in the US</p><p>[06:34] Understanding F1 Sponsorships</p><p>[11:28] ROI on F1 Sponsorships</p><p>[15:03] Drive to Survive: Impact on F1</p><p>[18:08] Anatomy of an F1 Sponsorship Deal</p><p>[24:47] The High Stakes of F1 Sponsorships</p><p>[28:25] The Appeal of F1 Events</p><p>[29:32] Strategic Brand Integration in F1 Sponsorships</p><p>[36:34] The Importance of Planning and Data in Sponsorships</p><p>[40:53] Leveraging F1 Storylines for Brand Success</p><p>[45:06] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ondar/">Connect with Ondar on LinkedIn</a></p><p>About Remarkable!</p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Some performances fade. Others stay with you for decades.</p><p>Buena Vista Social Club is one of them. It isn’t just a musical—it’s a masterclass in resonance, memory, and experience.</p><p>In this episode, we’re pulling B2B marketing lessons from that spirit of storytelling with the help of Dan Lowden, Chief Marketing Officer at Blackbird.AI.</p><p>Together, we explore why content should come first, how honesty builds brand resilience, and what it takes to create live experiences your audience will talk about for years.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Dan Lowden</strong></p><p>Dan is the CMO at Blackbird.AI and leads the company’s strategic marketing efforts, including demand generation and brand leadership. He has over 20 years of strategic experience at the executive level. He has served as CMO at cybersecurity firm HUMAN Security (acquired by Goldman Sachs), named one of the TIME100 Most Influential Companies of 2023. Lowden also served as the CMO at Digital Shadows (acquired by Reliaquest) and, before that, CMO at Invincea (acquired by Sophos) and VP of Marketing at vArmour (acquired by Night Dragon). He has held marketing leadership positions at Wayport (acquired by AT&T), IBM ThinkPad (acquired by Lenovo), NEC Technologies, and Sharp Electronics. Lowden holds an MBA in International Business from Rutgers Graduate School of Management and a Bachelor of Science from Rider University.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Buena Vista Social Club:</strong></i></p><ul><li><strong>Content is the foundation—not an afterthought</strong>. Even in cybersecurity, content is king. Dan says, “My first hire was a content person. You can have the best ABM strategy or tools, but if you don’t have really valuable content, you’re not going to get anywhere.” His advice? Lead with education, not asks. Thoughtful reports, relevant use cases, and engaging narratives will earn your audience’s attention—and their trust.</li><li><strong>Honesty builds brand resilience</strong>. When it comes to trust, marketing can’t cut corners. Especially in high-stakes industries like cybersecurity. Dan says, “There’s been a lot of overstatement of things by marketers and salespeople. That’s when marketing takes a ding.” Instead, he urges CMOs to stay grounded: deliver real value, communicate with clarity, and show your audience you’re in it for the long haul.</li><li><strong>Live experiences create a</strong> <strong>lasting impact</strong>. If you want your brand to be unforgettable, you need to create moments that move people. “People still come up to us today and say that band and that experience 10-plus years ago—they remember. There’s not been anything like that,” Dan says, reflecting on a live concert his team produced. Whether it’s a concert, a rooftop dinner, or a one-of-a-kind conference, remarkable experiences turn into word-of-mouth—and brand love that lingers.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“To me, in marketing—B2B or B2C—it’s about creating a relationship, trust, even friendship, a community with your audience.”</p><p>*"If you treat your customers well, if you serve them well, if you’re honest with them… then you have a chance of being very successful as a company.”</p><p>*“Music is really, really important, really powerful… as a marketer, especially in cybersecurity where there’s 5,000 cybersecurity companies, you have to do something different. You have to stand out.”</p><p>Time Stamps</p><p>[00:55] Meet Dan Lowden, CMO at Blackbird.AI</p><p>[03:42] The Magic of Live Theater</p><p>[06:21] The Role of a CMO in Cybersecurity</p><p>[10:23] Understanding Narrative Attacks</p><p>[14:29] The Evolution of Narrative Intelligence</p><p>[22:36] The Story Behind <i>Buena Vista Social Club</i></p><p>[28:31] The Power of Live Music in Marketing</p><p>[30:33] Creating Remarkable Experiences</p><p>[39:21] The Importance of Content in Marketing</p><p>[45:05] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/danlowden/">Connect with Dan on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="http://blackbird.ai">Learn more about Blackbird.AI</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Ian Faison, Meredith Gooderham, Dan Lowden)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some performances fade. Others stay with you for decades.</p><p>Buena Vista Social Club is one of them. It isn’t just a musical—it’s a masterclass in resonance, memory, and experience.</p><p>In this episode, we’re pulling B2B marketing lessons from that spirit of storytelling with the help of Dan Lowden, Chief Marketing Officer at Blackbird.AI.</p><p>Together, we explore why content should come first, how honesty builds brand resilience, and what it takes to create live experiences your audience will talk about for years.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Dan Lowden</strong></p><p>Dan is the CMO at Blackbird.AI and leads the company’s strategic marketing efforts, including demand generation and brand leadership. He has over 20 years of strategic experience at the executive level. He has served as CMO at cybersecurity firm HUMAN Security (acquired by Goldman Sachs), named one of the TIME100 Most Influential Companies of 2023. Lowden also served as the CMO at Digital Shadows (acquired by Reliaquest) and, before that, CMO at Invincea (acquired by Sophos) and VP of Marketing at vArmour (acquired by Night Dragon). He has held marketing leadership positions at Wayport (acquired by AT&T), IBM ThinkPad (acquired by Lenovo), NEC Technologies, and Sharp Electronics. Lowden holds an MBA in International Business from Rutgers Graduate School of Management and a Bachelor of Science from Rider University.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Buena Vista Social Club:</strong></i></p><ul><li><strong>Content is the foundation—not an afterthought</strong>. Even in cybersecurity, content is king. Dan says, “My first hire was a content person. You can have the best ABM strategy or tools, but if you don’t have really valuable content, you’re not going to get anywhere.” His advice? Lead with education, not asks. Thoughtful reports, relevant use cases, and engaging narratives will earn your audience’s attention—and their trust.</li><li><strong>Honesty builds brand resilience</strong>. When it comes to trust, marketing can’t cut corners. Especially in high-stakes industries like cybersecurity. Dan says, “There’s been a lot of overstatement of things by marketers and salespeople. That’s when marketing takes a ding.” Instead, he urges CMOs to stay grounded: deliver real value, communicate with clarity, and show your audience you’re in it for the long haul.</li><li><strong>Live experiences create a</strong> <strong>lasting impact</strong>. If you want your brand to be unforgettable, you need to create moments that move people. “People still come up to us today and say that band and that experience 10-plus years ago—they remember. There’s not been anything like that,” Dan says, reflecting on a live concert his team produced. Whether it’s a concert, a rooftop dinner, or a one-of-a-kind conference, remarkable experiences turn into word-of-mouth—and brand love that lingers.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“To me, in marketing—B2B or B2C—it’s about creating a relationship, trust, even friendship, a community with your audience.”</p><p>*"If you treat your customers well, if you serve them well, if you’re honest with them… then you have a chance of being very successful as a company.”</p><p>*“Music is really, really important, really powerful… as a marketer, especially in cybersecurity where there’s 5,000 cybersecurity companies, you have to do something different. You have to stand out.”</p><p>Time Stamps</p><p>[00:55] Meet Dan Lowden, CMO at Blackbird.AI</p><p>[03:42] The Magic of Live Theater</p><p>[06:21] The Role of a CMO in Cybersecurity</p><p>[10:23] Understanding Narrative Attacks</p><p>[14:29] The Evolution of Narrative Intelligence</p><p>[22:36] The Story Behind <i>Buena Vista Social Club</i></p><p>[28:31] The Power of Live Music in Marketing</p><p>[30:33] Creating Remarkable Experiences</p><p>[39:21] The Importance of Content in Marketing</p><p>[45:05] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/danlowden/">Connect with Dan on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="http://blackbird.ai">Learn more about Blackbird.AI</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Some stories don’t need to be loud to leave a mark. <i>Ordinary People</i> is one of those films—a quiet, deeply human story that lingers long after the credits roll. It’s not flashy, but it’s unforgettable.</p><p>In this episode, we’re pulling marketing lessons from Robert Redford’s directorial debut with the help of our special guest Ruth Zive, CMO of Voices.</p><p>Together, they explore what B2B marketers can learn from telling emotionally resonant stories, leading with creative conviction, and knowing when to step out of the spotlight to let the work speak for itself.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Ruth Zive</strong></p><p>Ruth Zive is the Chief Marketing Officer at Voices. Ruth is a skilled and metrics-driven marketing strategist who believes in evidence-based revenue growth through the coordination and alignment of marketing and sales processes. She has worked for two decades serving B2B clients in the technology, financial services, and nonprofit industries.</p><p>What B2B Companies Can Learn From<i> Ordinary People:</i></p><ul><li><strong>Conviction is part of the job.</strong> Strong marketing doesn’t come from consensus—it comes from clarity. Ruth says, “Marketing can sometimes devolve into a bit of a crowdsourced exercise. Everybody wants to edit your content or weigh in on the messaging… but we are the experts in marketing and we should make decisions accordingly.” Have conviction in your vision—and own the creative calls that matter.</li><li><strong>Tell the story of your customer’s pain, not just the product. </strong>Emotional resonance starts with understanding your buyer’s struggle. Ruth says, “The most resonant stories as a B2B marketer are the ones that start with the pain of the person that you're trying to touch. Ultimately, what you're doing is showcasing how you're going to get the prospect to the other side of that pain.” Lead with empathy, not just features.</li><li><strong>Stretch your team—and your story. </strong>Growth comes from pushing beyond the expected. Ruth says, “You never want your marketing to be a rinse and repeat proposition. You always want it to be a little bit provocative and unexpected.” Like casting Mary Tyler Moore in a dramatic role, bold choices unlock surprising results—creatively and commercially.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“Know your superpower. I talk about this a lot with my marketing colleagues. Robert Redford was the George Clooney of the day. He had very successful movies, he was a fantastic actor, but he was also a heartthrob. And that might have been a distraction in this story. I think that Robert Redford probably had some good self-awareness in that regard, and some of it might have been that he wanted to test his other skills and stretch into new domains for sure, but it might have been a distraction for him to have been the guy on the screen.”</p><p>*“You don't need the biggest budget to have the biggest impact. [Robert Redford]  didn't have to hire the biggest star, and yet, look at how the movie performed.”</p><p>*“I think at the end of the day, the folks behind the brand, even in B2B marketing, creating the assets, writing the story, they are humans, and the folks that we are selling to are ultimately humans. And it is our job as the B2B marketers to make those people on the other side of the transaction feel something. That's what we are trying to do is get them to feel something. And there are a lot of different ways we can do that, but I believe wholeheartedly that it starts with the story. The story speaks to their pain. The story showcases how we are going to make that pain go away. It's a simple formula. But I think that if you lead with features and functions, then you've lost the plot.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Voices CMO Ruth Zive</p><p>[01:30] About 'Ordinary People' the Movie</p><p>[04:26] What We Learn From Robert Redford's Directorial Debut</p><p>[08:21] Analyzing Characters and Themes</p><p>[13:50] Marketing Lessons from the Movie</p><p>[25:18] Casting Choices and Their Impact</p><p>[26:51] Marketing Lessons from Unconventional Casting</p><p>[29:15] Donald Sutherland's Unique Perspective</p><p>[32:08] Authenticity in Marketing and Storytelling</p><p>[38:43] The Future of Voice in Branding</p><p>[44:30] Content Strategy and Vision Videos</p><p>[47:40] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ruthzive/">Connect with Ruth on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.voices.com/landing/try-voices?_bt=689507091982&_bk=voices&_bm=b&_bn=g&_bg=157032537983&_bt=689507091982&_bk=voices&_bm=b&_bn=g&_bg=157032537983&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=20979585009&gbraid=0AAAAAD_jr-zTyMJA0CmtKlgT69zuN8Ykt&gclid=Cj0KCQjwjdTCBhCLARIsAEu8bpKcf8Lid4UWoqh7Q9cWjKIjXOh2XPHFBt7pNFF_x9yapFHXKMDsznkaAjOUEALw_wcB">Learn more about Voices</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some stories don’t need to be loud to leave a mark. <i>Ordinary People</i> is one of those films—a quiet, deeply human story that lingers long after the credits roll. It’s not flashy, but it’s unforgettable.</p><p>In this episode, we’re pulling marketing lessons from Robert Redford’s directorial debut with the help of our special guest Ruth Zive, CMO of Voices.</p><p>Together, they explore what B2B marketers can learn from telling emotionally resonant stories, leading with creative conviction, and knowing when to step out of the spotlight to let the work speak for itself.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Ruth Zive</strong></p><p>Ruth Zive is the Chief Marketing Officer at Voices. Ruth is a skilled and metrics-driven marketing strategist who believes in evidence-based revenue growth through the coordination and alignment of marketing and sales processes. 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The story showcases how we are going to make that pain go away. It's a simple formula. But I think that if you lead with features and functions, then you've lost the plot.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Voices CMO Ruth Zive</p><p>[01:30] About 'Ordinary People' the Movie</p><p>[04:26] What We Learn From Robert Redford's Directorial Debut</p><p>[08:21] Analyzing Characters and Themes</p><p>[13:50] Marketing Lessons from the Movie</p><p>[25:18] Casting Choices and Their Impact</p><p>[26:51] Marketing Lessons from Unconventional Casting</p><p>[29:15] Donald Sutherland's Unique Perspective</p><p>[32:08] Authenticity in Marketing and Storytelling</p><p>[38:43] The Future of Voice in Branding</p><p>[44:30] Content Strategy and Vision Videos</p><p>[47:40] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ruthzive/">Connect with Ruth on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.voices.com/landing/try-voices?_bt=689507091982&_bk=voices&_bm=b&_bn=g&_bg=157032537983&_bt=689507091982&_bk=voices&_bm=b&_bn=g&_bg=157032537983&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=20979585009&gbraid=0AAAAAD_jr-zTyMJA0CmtKlgT69zuN8Ykt&gclid=Cj0KCQjwjdTCBhCLARIsAEu8bpKcf8Lid4UWoqh7Q9cWjKIjXOh2XPHFBt7pNFF_x9yapFHXKMDsznkaAjOUEALw_wcB">Learn more about Voices</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. 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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Polish doesn’t build trust—personality does. And no one understands that better than TikTok creators, who turn raw ideas into magnetic, shareable content every day.</p><p>In this episode, we’re pulling marketing lessons from TikTok’s creative chaos with the help of Rhonda Hughes, award-winning B2B marketing leader.</p><p>Together, they explore what B2B marketers can learn from leading with authenticity, embracing low-fi experimentation, and having the courage to make something truly original.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Rhonda Hughes</strong></p><p>Rhonda Hughes is a storyteller and connector of people and ideas with 18 years of experience helping brands engage their customers and audiences. She believes in creating value, not noise, and she has a knack for inspiring teams to push boundaries with fresh, fun, relevant content, campaigns, and programs. </p><p>Rhonda’s team's work has earned recognition from Mashable, Business Insider, Hubspot, Sprout Social, KISSmetrics, Content Marketing Institute, and snagged her a spot on North Bay's 40 under 40 “Ones to Watch” list, noted among the “Top 50 Women in Content”, and awarded for "Best B2B Campaign on TikTok."</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>TikTok Creators</strong><i><strong>:</strong></i></p><ul><li><strong>Fun is a strategy—not a distraction.</strong> Brands win when they lean into playfulness—not just performance. “The brands that, to me, the companies that feel like they win are the ones that are really always putting their audience in the center and trying to figure out a way to be useful and be human and be playful,” Rhonda says. This kind of joyful creativity builds connection—and makes your brand memorable.</li><li><strong>Imperfect content is often the most relatable.</strong> Audiences don’t crave polish—they crave authenticity. “The most engaging content isn't the most polished… you can tell that this was just a creative idea and somebody with their camera and they're rallying the folks internally around how they bring the story to life,” Rhonda says. “And that's part of what makes it so relatable and likable.” Let your audience in on the process, not just the finished product.</li><li><strong>Iterate like a creator. </strong>TikTok’s best creators don’t get stuck in strategy mode—they test, tweak, and try again. That mindset is essential for B2B marketers too. “TikTok creators are constantly iterating… they've gotta test formats and hooks and trends and sounds, and they have to move fast and be playful with this,” Rhonda says. The takeaway? Strategy doesn’t mean overthinking. It means being in motion.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“You just never know what's gonna work. So you kind of have to be okay with trying and missing and trying again.”</p><p>*“You want to build content that's gonna resonate with your audience and also be something they want to share.”</p><p>*“If you’re not enjoying what you’re making, your audience probably isn’t either.”</p><p>*“It’s not about going viral—it’s about showing up over and over again.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Rhonda Hughes, Award-Winning Marketer</p><p>[03:37] The Power of Authenticity on TikTok</p><p>[06:00] Engaging Content Strategies</p><p>[10:34] Spotlight on Successful TikTok Campaigns</p><p>[16:16] Creative Marketing Examples</p><p>[27:28] The Power of Authenticity in Social Media</p><p>[29:37] The Bravery of Unique Marketing Strategies</p><p>[30:33] TSA's Unexpected Social Media Success</p><p>[32:39] The Importance of Fun and Experimentation in Marketing</p><p>[42:03] Creating Value, Not Noise</p><p>[43:37] The Utility of Content and Audience Engagement</p><p>[50:03] Final Thoughts and Advice for Marketing Leaders</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rhondakhughes/">Connect with Rhonda on LinkedIn</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Polish doesn’t build trust—personality does. And no one understands that better than TikTok creators, who turn raw ideas into magnetic, shareable content every day.</p><p>In this episode, we’re pulling marketing lessons from TikTok’s creative chaos with the help of Rhonda Hughes, award-winning B2B marketing leader.</p><p>Together, they explore what B2B marketers can learn from leading with authenticity, embracing low-fi experimentation, and having the courage to make something truly original.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Rhonda Hughes</strong></p><p>Rhonda Hughes is a storyteller and connector of people and ideas with 18 years of experience helping brands engage their customers and audiences. She believes in creating value, not noise, and she has a knack for inspiring teams to push boundaries with fresh, fun, relevant content, campaigns, and programs. </p><p>Rhonda’s team's work has earned recognition from Mashable, Business Insider, Hubspot, Sprout Social, KISSmetrics, Content Marketing Institute, and snagged her a spot on North Bay's 40 under 40 “Ones to Watch” list, noted among the “Top 50 Women in Content”, and awarded for "Best B2B Campaign on TikTok."</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>TikTok Creators</strong><i><strong>:</strong></i></p><ul><li><strong>Fun is a strategy—not a distraction.</strong> Brands win when they lean into playfulness—not just performance. “The brands that, to me, the companies that feel like they win are the ones that are really always putting their audience in the center and trying to figure out a way to be useful and be human and be playful,” Rhonda says. This kind of joyful creativity builds connection—and makes your brand memorable.</li><li><strong>Imperfect content is often the most relatable.</strong> Audiences don’t crave polish—they crave authenticity. “The most engaging content isn't the most polished… you can tell that this was just a creative idea and somebody with their camera and they're rallying the folks internally around how they bring the story to life,” Rhonda says. “And that's part of what makes it so relatable and likable.” Let your audience in on the process, not just the finished product.</li><li><strong>Iterate like a creator. </strong>TikTok’s best creators don’t get stuck in strategy mode—they test, tweak, and try again. That mindset is essential for B2B marketers too. “TikTok creators are constantly iterating… they've gotta test formats and hooks and trends and sounds, and they have to move fast and be playful with this,” Rhonda says. The takeaway? Strategy doesn’t mean overthinking. It means being in motion.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“You just never know what's gonna work. So you kind of have to be okay with trying and missing and trying again.”</p><p>*“You want to build content that's gonna resonate with your audience and also be something they want to share.”</p><p>*“If you’re not enjoying what you’re making, your audience probably isn’t either.”</p><p>*“It’s not about going viral—it’s about showing up over and over again.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Rhonda Hughes, Award-Winning Marketer</p><p>[03:37] The Power of Authenticity on TikTok</p><p>[06:00] Engaging Content Strategies</p><p>[10:34] Spotlight on Successful TikTok Campaigns</p><p>[16:16] Creative Marketing Examples</p><p>[27:28] The Power of Authenticity in Social Media</p><p>[29:37] The Bravery of Unique Marketing Strategies</p><p>[30:33] TSA's Unexpected Social Media Success</p><p>[32:39] The Importance of Fun and Experimentation in Marketing</p><p>[42:03] Creating Value, Not Noise</p><p>[43:37] The Utility of Content and Audience Engagement</p><p>[50:03] Final Thoughts and Advice for Marketing Leaders</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rhondakhughes/">Connect with Rhonda on LinkedIn</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>What can a satirical HBO series teach you about building a scalable, high-impact B2B marketing engine? A lot—if you ask Manish Gupta.</p><p>In this episode, 4-Time CMO Manish Gupta joins Caspian CEO Ian Faison to deconstruct the show <i>Silicon Valley</i> and extract lessons on marketing, storytelling, team dynamics, and startup chaos. </p><p>Together, they explore how to translate complex technology to engage your audience, prioritizing content in your marketing, and including human moments to build brand trust.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Manish Gupta</strong></p><p>Manish Gupta is a 4x CMO, having led marketing at companies like LaunchDarkly, Sonar and Redis. Manish brings deep experience scaling B2B technology businesses across public and private markets, including acquisitions and strategic transitions.</p><p>His leadership spans category-defining companies such as Redis, Sonar, Liaison, Oracle, and Apple, where he has successfully driven both product-led and sales-led growth. With domain expertise in software infrastructure, AI, SaaS, cloud, and communications, Manish is known for navigating complex business models and delivering sustainable growth.</p><p>He has also served as an advisor, board member, and investor in early-stage startups. Manish holds Master’s and Bachelor’s degrees in Engineering from Georgia Tech and an MBA from Santa Clara University.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Silicon Valley:</strong></i></p><ul><li><strong>Tech needs a translator</strong>. Technology is hard to understand—even for your audience. “Translating really complex technologies into simple-to-deliver messaging is an art form,” Manish says. “Great technology needs a great story, right? The narrative is so important, and how you deliver the narrative and how you package it is key to the success.”</li><li><strong>Content is the engine</strong>. Not the garnish. Manish makes it clear: “The whole marketing engine should be built around content.” That means investing in formats your audience truly wants—like hands-on guides and short-form videos—and making sure every asset is tailored to a specific persona <i>and</i> stage in the journey.</li><li><strong>Human moments build brand trust</strong>. Whether it’s the "Not Hotdog" app or the team playing their bizarre “Always Blue” game, <i>Silicon Valley</i> nails the emotional truth of startup life. 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Balancing that is a nuanced execution for marketing teams.”</p><p>*”A CMO should run the entire marketing engine around content. And this is not to invoke the old adage of ‘Content is king,’ but, you know, what are you at the end of the day? Delivering or communicating to your target audience, whether it's an existing customer or a prospect you're trying to win over. 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Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Going viral might get you noticed. But consistency is what makes you unforgettable. And no one proves that better than Alix Earle, a TikTok star who turned daily “Get Ready With Me” videos into a personal media empire.</p><p>In this episode, we’re pulling marketing lessons from Alix’s rise with the help of Elizabeth Strickert, Director of Content Marketing at A-LIGN.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from staying consistent, growing with (not past) your audience, and making content that’s actually fun to create.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Elizabeth Strickert</strong></p><p>Elizabeth Strickert is Director of Content Marketing at tech-enabled cybersecurity and compliance company A-LIGN. There, Elizabeth is leading content, thought leadership, comms & customer marketing.She has overhauled their SEO program, resulting in top 10 ranking for high-difficulty, high-volume keywords. 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All the time.” In B2B, the same rule applies: keep posting, keep showing up.</li><li><strong>Honor your origin story.</strong> Growth doesn’t mean forgetting who got you there. Alix still makes the content that first drew her audience in, while smartly layering in new formats. In B2B, you must evolve, but stay grounded. Elizabeth reminds us, “You gotta remember who got you here. You gotta remember your core customer base. You gotta remember the people who you know are…the ones that pay the bills.” Make sure to have a balance, especially as you scale.</li><li><strong>Find the fun and show it</strong>. Audiences can feel when you’re enjoying what you’re creating. It’s what makes content magnetic. Alix’s success didn’t just come from consistency, it came from joy. She leaned into the formats that were fun for her, and her audience leaned in too. Elizabeth puts it plainly: “When someone is excited about the things they're making, it automatically makes them more interesting. 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Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going viral might get you noticed. But consistency is what makes you unforgettable. And no one proves that better than Alix Earle, a TikTok star who turned daily “Get Ready With Me” videos into a personal media empire.</p><p>In this episode, we’re pulling marketing lessons from Alix’s rise with the help of Elizabeth Strickert, Director of Content Marketing at A-LIGN.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from staying consistent, growing with (not past) your audience, and making content that’s actually fun to create.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Elizabeth Strickert</strong></p><p>Elizabeth Strickert is Director of Content Marketing at tech-enabled cybersecurity and compliance company A-LIGN. There, Elizabeth is leading content, thought leadership, comms & customer marketing.She has overhauled their SEO program, resulting in top 10 ranking for high-difficulty, high-volume keywords. 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All the time.” In B2B, the same rule applies: keep posting, keep showing up.</li><li><strong>Honor your origin story.</strong> Growth doesn’t mean forgetting who got you there. Alix still makes the content that first drew her audience in, while smartly layering in new formats. In B2B, you must evolve, but stay grounded. Elizabeth reminds us, “You gotta remember who got you here. You gotta remember your core customer base. You gotta remember the people who you know are…the ones that pay the bills.” Make sure to have a balance, especially as you scale.</li><li><strong>Find the fun and show it</strong>. Audiences can feel when you’re enjoying what you’re creating. It’s what makes content magnetic. Alix’s success didn’t just come from consistency, it came from joy. She leaned into the formats that were fun for her, and her audience leaned in too. Elizabeth puts it plainly: “When someone is excited about the things they're making, it automatically makes them more interesting. 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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Scared marketing doesn’t stand out. Bold stories do. And no one knows that better than the team behind <i>Animal</i>, a new documentary that challenges everything you think you know about meat, health, and what drives people to change.</p><p>In this episode, we’re pulling lessons from the film’s launch with the help of our special guest, Kevin Carter, Producer at H20 Studios.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can steal from the big screen on how to activate communities, take smart creative risks, and stop playing it safe when the goal is to stand out.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Kevin Carter</strong></p><p>Kevin Carter is an experienced marketing and production executive with a track record of driving significant revenue and audience growth. Currently a Producer at H20 Studios in Los Angeles, he oversees productions, strategically optimizing budgets to achieve substantial savings while delivering high-impact content reaching millions of viewers. Previously, in Global Marketing Strategy at Lionsgate, Kevin spearheaded marketing campaigns for over 117 film and television releases, generating upwards of $100 million in revenue.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Kevin’s documentary, </strong><i><strong>Animal</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Build evangelists, not just audiences</strong>. A film doesn’t go viral because it’s seen. It goes viral because people <i>c</i>an’t stop talking about it. That’s how Kevin sees it. He says, “The best way is when you really create an army of people that just talk about your film without you doing anything.” For B2B marketers, that means stop chasing impressions and start sparking conversations. If your product solves a real problem, give your users the language, the emotion, and the why. They won’t just use it, they’ll share it.</li><li><strong>Give your team space to strike out</strong>. You can’t hit home runs if you’re too scared to swing. Kevin urges leaders to embrace failure in the name of breakthrough: “You have to allow your executives to have three strikeouts before a win… try some crazy things that might cause some virality.” In B2B, too many marketers are stuck playing defense. But virality, innovation, and true brand momentum come from cultures that reward experimentation, not just execution. If you want word of mouth, you have to make room for risk.</li><li><strong>Challenge the spreadsheet</strong>. When executives default to templates, creativity gets sidelined. Kevin puts it bluntly: “Do I use this templated spend calculator… or do I take a chance and try something new to break through all the noise?” Most choose safety and the result is scared content that no one talks about. In B2B, the same trap shows up in recycled campaigns and rinse-repeat strategies. But breakthrough growth doesn’t come from playing it safe. It comes from marketers brave enough to break the mold. Because what limits risk often limits reach.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“The best way is when you really create an army of people that just talk about your film without you doing anything. Every one person that you market to that loves it and then tells three other people. There’s so much value to that. And then you expand that out to thousands of people, and they’re all sharing with other people. That is the winning formula, really.”</p><p>*“You finally get that EVP role… you’re just loving life, and then you have two options. Do I use this templated spend calculator that we use on films, that’s probably solid… limits our downside risk? Or do I take a chance and try something new and fresh, and try to break through all the noise out there, but the downside risk is a bit higher? Most of the time, they pick the latter... I think you get stuck in. Just making scared content all the time versus making like the best content.”</p><p>*“For <i>Animal</i>, there’s been no templated spend at all, we are just doing a totally bespoke campaign. If we do another film after this, it won’t be the same either. You have to look at each project and ask, what are our strengths? What are our weaknesses?... And then lean into your strengths and hopefully that carries you to the promised land.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Kevin Carter, Producer at H20 Studios</p><p>[01:00] Breaking Down Kevin's Documentary, <i>Animal</i></p><p>[07:52] Marketing Strategies For Film and TV</p><p>[14:51] Challenges and Risks in Movie Marketing</p><p>[21:25] Rethinking Your Target Audience</p><p>[27:14] Innovative Marketing Techniques For Film and TV</p><p>[33:40] Creating the Documentary, <i>Animal</i></p><p>[35:26] Marketing <i>Animal</i></p><p>[40:02 Final Thoughts & Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-a-carter-mbv/">Connect with Kevin on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.animal.movie/">Check out <i>Animal</i></a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Kevin Carter, Ian Faison, Meredith Gooderham)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scared marketing doesn’t stand out. Bold stories do. And no one knows that better than the team behind <i>Animal</i>, a new documentary that challenges everything you think you know about meat, health, and what drives people to change.</p><p>In this episode, we’re pulling lessons from the film’s launch with the help of our special guest, Kevin Carter, Producer at H20 Studios.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can steal from the big screen on how to activate communities, take smart creative risks, and stop playing it safe when the goal is to stand out.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Kevin Carter</strong></p><p>Kevin Carter is an experienced marketing and production executive with a track record of driving significant revenue and audience growth. Currently a Producer at H20 Studios in Los Angeles, he oversees productions, strategically optimizing budgets to achieve substantial savings while delivering high-impact content reaching millions of viewers. Previously, in Global Marketing Strategy at Lionsgate, Kevin spearheaded marketing campaigns for over 117 film and television releases, generating upwards of $100 million in revenue.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Kevin’s documentary, </strong><i><strong>Animal</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Build evangelists, not just audiences</strong>. A film doesn’t go viral because it’s seen. It goes viral because people <i>c</i>an’t stop talking about it. That’s how Kevin sees it. He says, “The best way is when you really create an army of people that just talk about your film without you doing anything.” For B2B marketers, that means stop chasing impressions and start sparking conversations. If your product solves a real problem, give your users the language, the emotion, and the why. They won’t just use it, they’ll share it.</li><li><strong>Give your team space to strike out</strong>. You can’t hit home runs if you’re too scared to swing. Kevin urges leaders to embrace failure in the name of breakthrough: “You have to allow your executives to have three strikeouts before a win… try some crazy things that might cause some virality.” In B2B, too many marketers are stuck playing defense. But virality, innovation, and true brand momentum come from cultures that reward experimentation, not just execution. If you want word of mouth, you have to make room for risk.</li><li><strong>Challenge the spreadsheet</strong>. When executives default to templates, creativity gets sidelined. Kevin puts it bluntly: “Do I use this templated spend calculator… or do I take a chance and try something new to break through all the noise?” Most choose safety and the result is scared content that no one talks about. In B2B, the same trap shows up in recycled campaigns and rinse-repeat strategies. But breakthrough growth doesn’t come from playing it safe. It comes from marketers brave enough to break the mold. Because what limits risk often limits reach.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“The best way is when you really create an army of people that just talk about your film without you doing anything. Every one person that you market to that loves it and then tells three other people. There’s so much value to that. And then you expand that out to thousands of people, and they’re all sharing with other people. That is the winning formula, really.”</p><p>*“You finally get that EVP role… you’re just loving life, and then you have two options. Do I use this templated spend calculator that we use on films, that’s probably solid… limits our downside risk? Or do I take a chance and try something new and fresh, and try to break through all the noise out there, but the downside risk is a bit higher? Most of the time, they pick the latter... I think you get stuck in. Just making scared content all the time versus making like the best content.”</p><p>*“For <i>Animal</i>, there’s been no templated spend at all, we are just doing a totally bespoke campaign. If we do another film after this, it won’t be the same either. You have to look at each project and ask, what are our strengths? What are our weaknesses?... And then lean into your strengths and hopefully that carries you to the promised land.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Kevin Carter, Producer at H20 Studios</p><p>[01:00] Breaking Down Kevin's Documentary, <i>Animal</i></p><p>[07:52] Marketing Strategies For Film and TV</p><p>[14:51] Challenges and Risks in Movie Marketing</p><p>[21:25] Rethinking Your Target Audience</p><p>[27:14] Innovative Marketing Techniques For Film and TV</p><p>[33:40] Creating the Documentary, <i>Animal</i></p><p>[35:26] Marketing <i>Animal</i></p><p>[40:02 Final Thoughts & Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-a-carter-mbv/">Connect with Kevin on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.animal.movie/">Check out <i>Animal</i></a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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In this episode, we’re pulling lessons from the film’s launch with the help of our special guest, Kevin Carter, Producer at H20 Studios.

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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Cool features don’t make a story. Emotional stakes do. And no one knew that better than <i>Knight Rider</i>, a show where a talking car and a lone hero made 80s TV unforgettable.</p><p>In this episode, we’re pulling lessons from that retro icon with the help of our special guest, Ashley Sasnett, Senior Director of Content Strategy at Equifax</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from classic archetypes, character-driven branding, and the power of giving your product a little personality (or maybe even a voice of its own).</p><p><strong>About our guest, Ashley Sasnett</strong></p><p>Ashley Sasnett is the Senior Director of Content Strategy at Equifax. She is an award-winning, dynamic, and energetic digital marketing strategist with an extensive background in content, social media, mobile, campaign design and execution, and audience development. Ashley is a data-driven leader who embraces social listening and digital analytics to glean insights to solve business problems.</p><p>Ashley is a marketer who humanizes Brands with social media, digital content, and influencers, creating connections with clients and prospects.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Knight Rider</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li>Storytelling makes the features matter. <i>Knight Rider</i> didn’t win fans because KITT had voice activation or turbo boost. It won fans because those features served a bigger story. A story about a hero resurrected to right wrongs with his talking car by his side. Ashley urges marketers to take the same approach. Don't just list functionality. Show how it fits into a compelling narrative. Ashley says, “That’s a story. And so I think for me, when I'm thinking about how do you create marketing that really sticks with people is... you need to really pull 'em away from like brochureware.” When tech serves emotion, people remember it. So build the story before you build the spec sheet.</li><li>Embrace the buddy system. At its heart, <i>Knight Rider</i> was a buddy story—man and machine. That relationship brought emotional grounding to an otherwise tech-heavy premise. Ashley points out how powerful that dynamic is in marketing, too. Even the most advanced products need a human emotion. Ashley explains, “You gotta give him a friend… give them a buddy to keep their humanity, keep them connected so they can go out and be the hero they're supposed to be.” Your product might be brilliant. But it’s the companion—the story, the use case, the customer—that brings it to life.</li><li>Make it iconic, not just informative. KITT wasn’t just a car. It had a voice, a silhouette, and a sound you could recognize anywhere. It was branding genius and completely unforgettable. Ashley sees this as a blueprint for marketers: features don’t stick unless they’re wrapped in a sensory identity people can latch onto. Ashley says, “When the car is driving up…that sound is like Darth Vader’s voice. Everyone knows that sound. It’s so ownable to the show.” Don’t just inform. Design your marketing to be remembered. Own your marketing.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“When I'm thinking about how do you create marketing that really sticks with people is it's, yeah, you gotta give 'em the AI and the voice of recognition and the bulletproof and the hot car thing. You gotta give them features and functionality, but you need to really pull them away from like brochureware, right? Don't take a product sheet and turn it into a webpage. We're so past that. Because a lot of the time, people are going through and checking boxes for that stuff, but they're not getting the use case, the value prop, the differentiation that's wrapped around those features and functionality. And when you do have something that's different, doubling down on that, so you can stand out, you're gonna do that in storytelling, and you always have these big story arcs.”</p><p>*“ Market your marketing. The challenge that you've got is throughout your organization, people are seeing your marketing, but they're seeing it more as users. They're seeing the end product, they're not always understanding the strategies behind it. And I love a good dashboard. I love a good metric, I love a good deck, but you don't wanna turn them into crutches. You need to have that elevator pitch…And I think marketers, internally, we get so caught up in the bits and bobs and the how it's made, and we like to geek out on that stuff. We forget that really everybody just needs three or four bullet points… I think that's where it's funny 'cause we don't do for ourselves as we should do for our company or for our customers. Which is market your marketing, make sure people are understanding why you're doing what you're doing and how.”</p><p>*“Stories are  pretty basic…Things were cranking along, and then you hit a stormy patch, and now things are better because you use this product. The stories  that you unearth in there is how they've used that product, but you've got that big story arc that kind of pulls it all together….  What is the conflict? Who's the protagonist? And then what does that or resolution look like? And when you're able to do that, you're gonna have a fuller, clearer picture for the audience to really glom onto. Because unless you're in the room with them telling that story, you've gotta let your digital content do a lot of work.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Ashley Sasnett, Sr. Director, Content Strategy at Equifax</p><p>[01:15] Why <i>Knight Rider</i>?</p><p>[03:13] The Role of Sr. Director of Content Strategy at Equifax</p><p>[05:21] Origins of <i>Knight Rider</i></p><p>[10:37] B2B Marketing Lessons from <i>Knight Rider</i></p><p>[37:42] Equifax's Content Strategy</p><p>[41:26] Creating Memorable Content</p><p>[43:15] Great Current Marketing Campaigns</p><p>[47:37] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleysasnett/">Connect with Ashley on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="http://equifax.com">Learn more about Equifax</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 5 Jun 2025 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Meredith Gooderham, Ian Faison, Ashley Sasnett)</author>
      <link>https://www.caspianstudios.com/remarkable</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool features don’t make a story. Emotional stakes do. And no one knew that better than <i>Knight Rider</i>, a show where a talking car and a lone hero made 80s TV unforgettable.</p><p>In this episode, we’re pulling lessons from that retro icon with the help of our special guest, Ashley Sasnett, Senior Director of Content Strategy at Equifax</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from classic archetypes, character-driven branding, and the power of giving your product a little personality (or maybe even a voice of its own).</p><p><strong>About our guest, Ashley Sasnett</strong></p><p>Ashley Sasnett is the Senior Director of Content Strategy at Equifax. She is an award-winning, dynamic, and energetic digital marketing strategist with an extensive background in content, social media, mobile, campaign design and execution, and audience development. Ashley is a data-driven leader who embraces social listening and digital analytics to glean insights to solve business problems.</p><p>Ashley is a marketer who humanizes Brands with social media, digital content, and influencers, creating connections with clients and prospects.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Knight Rider</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li>Storytelling makes the features matter. <i>Knight Rider</i> didn’t win fans because KITT had voice activation or turbo boost. It won fans because those features served a bigger story. A story about a hero resurrected to right wrongs with his talking car by his side. Ashley urges marketers to take the same approach. Don't just list functionality. Show how it fits into a compelling narrative. Ashley says, “That’s a story. And so I think for me, when I'm thinking about how do you create marketing that really sticks with people is... you need to really pull 'em away from like brochureware.” When tech serves emotion, people remember it. So build the story before you build the spec sheet.</li><li>Embrace the buddy system. At its heart, <i>Knight Rider</i> was a buddy story—man and machine. That relationship brought emotional grounding to an otherwise tech-heavy premise. Ashley points out how powerful that dynamic is in marketing, too. Even the most advanced products need a human emotion. Ashley explains, “You gotta give him a friend… give them a buddy to keep their humanity, keep them connected so they can go out and be the hero they're supposed to be.” Your product might be brilliant. But it’s the companion—the story, the use case, the customer—that brings it to life.</li><li>Make it iconic, not just informative. KITT wasn’t just a car. It had a voice, a silhouette, and a sound you could recognize anywhere. It was branding genius and completely unforgettable. Ashley sees this as a blueprint for marketers: features don’t stick unless they’re wrapped in a sensory identity people can latch onto. Ashley says, “When the car is driving up…that sound is like Darth Vader’s voice. Everyone knows that sound. It’s so ownable to the show.” Don’t just inform. Design your marketing to be remembered. Own your marketing.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“When I'm thinking about how do you create marketing that really sticks with people is it's, yeah, you gotta give 'em the AI and the voice of recognition and the bulletproof and the hot car thing. You gotta give them features and functionality, but you need to really pull them away from like brochureware, right? Don't take a product sheet and turn it into a webpage. We're so past that. Because a lot of the time, people are going through and checking boxes for that stuff, but they're not getting the use case, the value prop, the differentiation that's wrapped around those features and functionality. And when you do have something that's different, doubling down on that, so you can stand out, you're gonna do that in storytelling, and you always have these big story arcs.”</p><p>*“ Market your marketing. The challenge that you've got is throughout your organization, people are seeing your marketing, but they're seeing it more as users. They're seeing the end product, they're not always understanding the strategies behind it. And I love a good dashboard. I love a good metric, I love a good deck, but you don't wanna turn them into crutches. You need to have that elevator pitch…And I think marketers, internally, we get so caught up in the bits and bobs and the how it's made, and we like to geek out on that stuff. We forget that really everybody just needs three or four bullet points… I think that's where it's funny 'cause we don't do for ourselves as we should do for our company or for our customers. Which is market your marketing, make sure people are understanding why you're doing what you're doing and how.”</p><p>*“Stories are  pretty basic…Things were cranking along, and then you hit a stormy patch, and now things are better because you use this product. The stories  that you unearth in there is how they've used that product, but you've got that big story arc that kind of pulls it all together….  What is the conflict? Who's the protagonist? And then what does that or resolution look like? And when you're able to do that, you're gonna have a fuller, clearer picture for the audience to really glom onto. Because unless you're in the room with them telling that story, you've gotta let your digital content do a lot of work.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Ashley Sasnett, Sr. Director, Content Strategy at Equifax</p><p>[01:15] Why <i>Knight Rider</i>?</p><p>[03:13] The Role of Sr. Director of Content Strategy at Equifax</p><p>[05:21] Origins of <i>Knight Rider</i></p><p>[10:37] B2B Marketing Lessons from <i>Knight Rider</i></p><p>[37:42] Equifax's Content Strategy</p><p>[41:26] Creating Memorable Content</p><p>[43:15] Great Current Marketing Campaigns</p><p>[47:37] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleysasnett/">Connect with Ashley on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="http://equifax.com">Learn more about Equifax</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>Cool features don’t make a story. Emotional stakes do. And no one knew that better than Knight Rider, a show where a talking car and a lone hero made 80s TV unforgettable.
In this episode, we’re pulling lessons from that retro icon with the help of our special guest, Ashley Sasnett, Senior Director of Content Strategy at Equifax

Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from classic archetypes, character-driven branding, and the power of giving your product a little personality (or maybe even a voice of its own).</itunes:summary>
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Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from classic archetypes, character-driven branding, and the power of giving your product a little personality (or maybe even a voice of its own).</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Rational thinking might drive economics, but emotional behavior drives decisions. And no one understands that better than Dan Ariely, author of <i>Predictably Irrational</i>, a book that’s reshaped our assumptions about how people make decisions.</p><p>In this episode, we’re unpacking key lessons from Dan Ariely’s work with the help of our special guest, Leslie Alore, SVP of Marketing at Flexera.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from setting the right expectations, why fewer choices close more deals, and how the power of “free” and fear of loss can drive serious retention.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Leslie Alore</strong></p><p>As the SVP of Marketing, Leslie Alore leads Flexera’s marketing strategy with an aim to create great experiences and outcomes for our customers.</p><p>Her passion for people and technology—combined with more than 15 years of marketing leadership in the tech space—has established her as a successful, results-driven executive who enables teams to do their best work.</p><p>Prior to joining Flexera, Leslie served as the Global SVP of Lifecycle Marketing at Ivanti. Before that, she held various marketing, operations and GTM strategy roles at Iron Mountain. Leslie is an active speaker and mentor in the GTM community, and has been recognized among “Top Women in Marketing” by Ragan Communications and “Women of the Channel” by CRN.</p><p>Leslie holds a BBA in Management, and an MBA with a concentration in Strategic Leadership from Walsh College of Accountancy and Business Administration.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Predictably Irrational</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Set expectations to shape reality</strong>. Great marketing doesn’t just reflect value, it creates the conditions for it. Leslie highlights how expectations shape reality. When buyers believe something is good, they interpret every detail through that lens. This isn’t about manipulation, it’s about clarity and consistency. Leslie says, “The effect of expectations… believing beforehand something is good, therefore it will be or the reverse.” So stop hoping your audience connects the dots. Tell them what to expect, then deliver on it. Perception isn’t a bonus, it’s the foundation.</li><li><strong>Shrink your options to speed the decision.</strong> Too many options stall progress. The paradox of choice tells us more isn’t better, it’s paralyzing. Leslie urges marketers to curate the path forward: “You actually want to give people fewer options and take control of the options that they see.” Don’t just join the shortlist, define it. When you narrow the frame, you speed up the decision for your customers. </li><li><strong>Turn “free” into staying power with loss aversion. </strong>There’s magic in “free,” but the real power lies in what people fear losing. Once someone uses your product, whether it’s a freemium tool or an ungated resource, they’ve invested. Now there’s skin in the game. Leslie puts it simply, “People will overvalue something that's free and ignore kind of the trade-off costs associated. And loss is psychologically painful. We don't want to lose that, which we already have.” Whether you offer software, content, or services, create early wins. Then make the cost of leaving feel higher than the cost of staying.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“ There's many organizations that lean into that power of positivity…What's very interesting is that consumer brands do this a lot very, very well. B2B organizations tend to do almost the opposite. They tend to lean more into FUD. And that's a harder road to tread.”</p><p>*“ If you’re an organization that is selling software, the software is designed to provide a business outcome. It's designed to solve a business problem. Instead of focusing on, here's the business problem. Doesn't that suck for you? You can say, ‘here's the solution.</p><p>*“You have the power, you can feel confident about your ability to achieve X, Y, Z because you've solved this problem.’ It's saying the same thing, but orienting it in a positive way and being very, very, very consistent in that message. Beat that drum over and over and over again.”</p><p>*“ Narrow down the competitive options for them. Your sales process will move faster. You will be able to take better control of the narrative if you say, ‘this is us and these are the two other vendors that look like us. And here's why we are different and better, and here's what you can expect from these guys.’ And that doesn't mean saying negative things about them.  It's just highlighting your strengths and your virtues.”</p><p>*“People are willing to accept trade-offs for something that is perceived to be free…This is the exact reason that PLG, product-led growth, is so powerful. Because if you can get people in the door with some sort of freemium offering, people will actually work harder to do the legwork to get a free product to work and interact with it, than they might be willing to put in for something that they have to go pay for. And then once they have it and they've put in the work, they don't wanna lose it.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Leslie Alore, SVP of Marketing at Flexera</p><p>[00:56] Why Predictably Irrational?</p><p>[02:20] The Role of SVP of Marketing at Flexera</p><p>[02:47] Understanding Predictably Irrational</p><p>[09:56] B2B Marketing Lessons from <i>Predictably Irrational</i></p><p>[37:49] Cognitive Dissonance in Buying Behavior</p><p>[42:17] Emotional Marketing in B2B</p><p>[46:18] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesliecocco/">Connect with Leslie on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="http://flexera.com">Learn more about Flexera</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rational thinking might drive economics, but emotional behavior drives decisions. And no one understands that better than Dan Ariely, author of <i>Predictably Irrational</i>, a book that’s reshaped our assumptions about how people make decisions.</p><p>In this episode, we’re unpacking key lessons from Dan Ariely’s work with the help of our special guest, Leslie Alore, SVP of Marketing at Flexera.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from setting the right expectations, why fewer choices close more deals, and how the power of “free” and fear of loss can drive serious retention.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Leslie Alore</strong></p><p>As the SVP of Marketing, Leslie Alore leads Flexera’s marketing strategy with an aim to create great experiences and outcomes for our customers.</p><p>Her passion for people and technology—combined with more than 15 years of marketing leadership in the tech space—has established her as a successful, results-driven executive who enables teams to do their best work.</p><p>Prior to joining Flexera, Leslie served as the Global SVP of Lifecycle Marketing at Ivanti. Before that, she held various marketing, operations and GTM strategy roles at Iron Mountain. Leslie is an active speaker and mentor in the GTM community, and has been recognized among “Top Women in Marketing” by Ragan Communications and “Women of the Channel” by CRN.</p><p>Leslie holds a BBA in Management, and an MBA with a concentration in Strategic Leadership from Walsh College of Accountancy and Business Administration.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Predictably Irrational</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Set expectations to shape reality</strong>. Great marketing doesn’t just reflect value, it creates the conditions for it. Leslie highlights how expectations shape reality. When buyers believe something is good, they interpret every detail through that lens. This isn’t about manipulation, it’s about clarity and consistency. Leslie says, “The effect of expectations… believing beforehand something is good, therefore it will be or the reverse.” So stop hoping your audience connects the dots. Tell them what to expect, then deliver on it. Perception isn’t a bonus, it’s the foundation.</li><li><strong>Shrink your options to speed the decision.</strong> Too many options stall progress. The paradox of choice tells us more isn’t better, it’s paralyzing. Leslie urges marketers to curate the path forward: “You actually want to give people fewer options and take control of the options that they see.” Don’t just join the shortlist, define it. When you narrow the frame, you speed up the decision for your customers. </li><li><strong>Turn “free” into staying power with loss aversion. </strong>There’s magic in “free,” but the real power lies in what people fear losing. Once someone uses your product, whether it’s a freemium tool or an ungated resource, they’ve invested. Now there’s skin in the game. Leslie puts it simply, “People will overvalue something that's free and ignore kind of the trade-off costs associated. And loss is psychologically painful. We don't want to lose that, which we already have.” Whether you offer software, content, or services, create early wins. Then make the cost of leaving feel higher than the cost of staying.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“ There's many organizations that lean into that power of positivity…What's very interesting is that consumer brands do this a lot very, very well. B2B organizations tend to do almost the opposite. They tend to lean more into FUD. And that's a harder road to tread.”</p><p>*“ If you’re an organization that is selling software, the software is designed to provide a business outcome. It's designed to solve a business problem. Instead of focusing on, here's the business problem. Doesn't that suck for you? You can say, ‘here's the solution.</p><p>*“You have the power, you can feel confident about your ability to achieve X, Y, Z because you've solved this problem.’ It's saying the same thing, but orienting it in a positive way and being very, very, very consistent in that message. Beat that drum over and over and over again.”</p><p>*“ Narrow down the competitive options for them. Your sales process will move faster. You will be able to take better control of the narrative if you say, ‘this is us and these are the two other vendors that look like us. And here's why we are different and better, and here's what you can expect from these guys.’ And that doesn't mean saying negative things about them.  It's just highlighting your strengths and your virtues.”</p><p>*“People are willing to accept trade-offs for something that is perceived to be free…This is the exact reason that PLG, product-led growth, is so powerful. Because if you can get people in the door with some sort of freemium offering, people will actually work harder to do the legwork to get a free product to work and interact with it, than they might be willing to put in for something that they have to go pay for. And then once they have it and they've put in the work, they don't wanna lose it.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Leslie Alore, SVP of Marketing at Flexera</p><p>[00:56] Why Predictably Irrational?</p><p>[02:20] The Role of SVP of Marketing at Flexera</p><p>[02:47] Understanding Predictably Irrational</p><p>[09:56] B2B Marketing Lessons from <i>Predictably Irrational</i></p><p>[37:49] Cognitive Dissonance in Buying Behavior</p><p>[42:17] Emotional Marketing in B2B</p><p>[46:18] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesliecocco/">Connect with Leslie on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="http://flexera.com">Learn more about Flexera</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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In this episode, we’re unpacking key lessons from Dan Ariely’s work with the help of our special guest, Leslie Alore, SVP of Marketing at Flexera.
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In this episode, we’re unpacking key lessons from Dan Ariely’s work with the help of our special guest, Leslie Alore, SVP of Marketing at Flexera.
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Adolescence isn’t your typical TV drama. It’s raw, immersive, and filmed in a single unbroken shot, forcing you to stay with every moment, no matter how uncomfortable.</p><p>In this episode, we’re pulling lessons from that intensity with the help of our guest, Charlie Ungashick, CMO of Vimeo.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from embracing creative risk, connecting across generations, and resisting the urge to over-polish. Because sometimes, the most powerful stories are the ones that feel the most human.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Charlie Ungashick</strong></p><p>Charlie Ungashick joined Vimeo as CMO in 2024. He has over 20 years of experience leading marketing teams in tech companies. Before Vimeo, he was CMO and Head of Product at Applause, a leader in crowdsourced software testing. Charlie also advised Gem, a talent engagement platform, and held product, sales engineering, and IT roles at AIG, Novell, and SilverStream Software early in his career. He holds a bachelor's degree from Fordham University and a diploma in economics from the Université de Paris-Sorbonne.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Adolescence</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Take risks that stretch you.</strong> In <i>Adolescence</i>, everything was a bet. A single-take format. A debut teenage actor. Emotionally loaded material. It had no business working—and yet it did. Charlie sees the same dynamic in great marketing. He explains, “Some of the best projects that we’ve all worked on are probably like that—they’re risky and audacious.” In B2B, we often play it too safe. Big ideas get trimmed down before they even leave the doc. But safe rarely stands out. Sometimes, the smartest move is to back the idea that feels slightly unmakeable—and then go make it.</li><li><strong>Follow the signals across generations</strong>. Charlie and his daughters both watched Adolescence—but saw it through totally different lenses. That contrast sparked something powerful. Charlie says, “Adolescence was interesting because it had something for lots of different generations... it created that human element.” The best B2B content doesn’t just target—it connects. Know where your audience is, how they consume, and what matters to them emotionally. Not every story has to hit everyone the same way. But the best ones open up space for conversation across the gap.</li><li><strong>Lead with authenticity, not polish.</strong> <i>Adolescence</i> wasn’t glossy. It was real. That’s what made it stick. Charlie challenges marketers to do the same: “We should all be comfortable in our B2B marketing by providing the same emotional authenticity that we find on TikTok and Netflix and Instagram.” B2B doesn’t have to mean buttoned-up. Lo-fi can hit harder than high-budget. People buy from people, not buildings. The more human your marketing feels, the more likely it is to land.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“ Some of the things that I've been the most proud of are things that were super out of the box, almost unachievable when you sort of bring the idea to your team. Not all of them are achievable. Not all of them are inspiring, but some of the best ones happen. And so I typically love being visionary when it comes to doing big things that require big sort of game-changing execution. And when I looked at <i>Adolescence</i>, the combination of all the things that we talked about certainly has those elements.”</p><p>*“ As a marketer, I always continuously look at demographics and psychographics and figure out how to elicit brain chemistry to ensure that people who I'm targeting are the ones that I want to connect with. I think the <i>Adolescence</i> was interesting because it had something for lots of different generations. And in fact, my daughters probably looked at it very differently than I did. And then when we compared notes in our conversations, it created that human element that we talked about earlier.”</p><p>*“ B2B marketers, they don't buy from a b, they don't buy from a building, they buy from human beings. And I think our storytelling in our marketing can be much more authentic when we're thinking about the consumerization of the types of things that we do. So shorter form, more authentic, maybe even lo-fi. There's a time and a place for those kinds of things, and I think it can propel our results.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Charlie Ungashick, CMO at Vimeo</p><p>[01:06] Why Adolescence?</p><p>[03:19] The Role of CMO at Vimeo</p><p>[06:20] AI and the Future of Video Creation at Vimeo</p><p>[09:24] Origins of Adolescence</p><p>[18:50] B2B Marketing Takeaways from Adolescence</p><p>[47:36] Vimoe's Brand Strategy</p><p>[49:59] Creating Authentic Content</p><p>[53:13] Innovative Uses of AI in Video</p><p>[54:20] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlieungashick/">Connect with Charlie on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="http://vimeo.com">Learn more about Vimeo</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adolescence isn’t your typical TV drama. It’s raw, immersive, and filmed in a single unbroken shot, forcing you to stay with every moment, no matter how uncomfortable.</p><p>In this episode, we’re pulling lessons from that intensity with the help of our guest, Charlie Ungashick, CMO of Vimeo.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from embracing creative risk, connecting across generations, and resisting the urge to over-polish. Because sometimes, the most powerful stories are the ones that feel the most human.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Charlie Ungashick</strong></p><p>Charlie Ungashick joined Vimeo as CMO in 2024. He has over 20 years of experience leading marketing teams in tech companies. Before Vimeo, he was CMO and Head of Product at Applause, a leader in crowdsourced software testing. Charlie also advised Gem, a talent engagement platform, and held product, sales engineering, and IT roles at AIG, Novell, and SilverStream Software early in his career. He holds a bachelor's degree from Fordham University and a diploma in economics from the Université de Paris-Sorbonne.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Adolescence</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Take risks that stretch you.</strong> In <i>Adolescence</i>, everything was a bet. A single-take format. A debut teenage actor. Emotionally loaded material. It had no business working—and yet it did. Charlie sees the same dynamic in great marketing. He explains, “Some of the best projects that we’ve all worked on are probably like that—they’re risky and audacious.” In B2B, we often play it too safe. Big ideas get trimmed down before they even leave the doc. But safe rarely stands out. Sometimes, the smartest move is to back the idea that feels slightly unmakeable—and then go make it.</li><li><strong>Follow the signals across generations</strong>. Charlie and his daughters both watched Adolescence—but saw it through totally different lenses. That contrast sparked something powerful. Charlie says, “Adolescence was interesting because it had something for lots of different generations... it created that human element.” The best B2B content doesn’t just target—it connects. Know where your audience is, how they consume, and what matters to them emotionally. Not every story has to hit everyone the same way. But the best ones open up space for conversation across the gap.</li><li><strong>Lead with authenticity, not polish.</strong> <i>Adolescence</i> wasn’t glossy. It was real. That’s what made it stick. Charlie challenges marketers to do the same: “We should all be comfortable in our B2B marketing by providing the same emotional authenticity that we find on TikTok and Netflix and Instagram.” B2B doesn’t have to mean buttoned-up. Lo-fi can hit harder than high-budget. People buy from people, not buildings. The more human your marketing feels, the more likely it is to land.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“ Some of the things that I've been the most proud of are things that were super out of the box, almost unachievable when you sort of bring the idea to your team. Not all of them are achievable. Not all of them are inspiring, but some of the best ones happen. And so I typically love being visionary when it comes to doing big things that require big sort of game-changing execution. And when I looked at <i>Adolescence</i>, the combination of all the things that we talked about certainly has those elements.”</p><p>*“ As a marketer, I always continuously look at demographics and psychographics and figure out how to elicit brain chemistry to ensure that people who I'm targeting are the ones that I want to connect with. I think the <i>Adolescence</i> was interesting because it had something for lots of different generations. And in fact, my daughters probably looked at it very differently than I did. And then when we compared notes in our conversations, it created that human element that we talked about earlier.”</p><p>*“ B2B marketers, they don't buy from a b, they don't buy from a building, they buy from human beings. And I think our storytelling in our marketing can be much more authentic when we're thinking about the consumerization of the types of things that we do. So shorter form, more authentic, maybe even lo-fi. There's a time and a place for those kinds of things, and I think it can propel our results.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Charlie Ungashick, CMO at Vimeo</p><p>[01:06] Why Adolescence?</p><p>[03:19] The Role of CMO at Vimeo</p><p>[06:20] AI and the Future of Video Creation at Vimeo</p><p>[09:24] Origins of Adolescence</p><p>[18:50] B2B Marketing Takeaways from Adolescence</p><p>[47:36] Vimoe's Brand Strategy</p><p>[49:59] Creating Authentic Content</p><p>[53:13] Innovative Uses of AI in Video</p><p>[54:20] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlieungashick/">Connect with Charlie on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="http://vimeo.com">Learn more about Vimeo</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Since 2014, Ryan Holiday’s <i>The Daily Stoic </i>newsletter has landed in inboxes every single morning, offering ancient wisdom in bite-size, highly clickable form.</p><p>It’s also a masterclass in content marketing. In this episode, we’re unpacking what B2B marketers can learn from <i>The Daily Stoic</i> with the help of Amanda Dyson, VP, Head of Marketing at FourKites.</p><p>Together, we explore how to break the marketing mold, why the most impactful content is also the most practical, and how anchoring your message in core values makes it stick. Stoicism isn’t just a philosophy; if done right, it’s a blueprint for modern marketing.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Amanda Dyson</strong></p><p>With 20 years B2B software and SaaS marketing expertise, Amanda specializes in go-to-market strategy; consultative marketing; change and people management; lead generation; account based marketing; partner co-marketing; integrated digital marketing; email marketing; live and virtual events; corporate branding and storytelling; account segmentation and targeting; project and budget management, and strategic advisement.</p><p>Amanda has run regional and global teams. She has a passion for people and results and a proven track record of success delivering on KPIs and OKRs. She has held successively responsible, cross-functional leadership positions in sales and marketing, including alliances, partnership marketing, ABM, demand generation, field marketing, solutions marketing, events, communications, and corporate marketing for global Supply Chain Management (SCM) and Enterprise Resource Planning (ERP) software companies.</p><p>A California girl at heart, Amanda happily resides in Charlotte, North Carolina with her family of five. When she’s not growing people or pipeline at leading tech companies, she enjoys spending time with her family in the mountains or at the beach, running daily, and practicing mindfulness. Amanda has an MBA from the W.P. Carey School of Business at Arizona State University with a focus in Marketing, Finance and Supply Chain, and a Bachelor of Arts degree in Business Economics with a Minor in Professional Writing from the University of California, Santa Barbara.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Ryan Holiday’s </strong><i><strong>The Daily Stoic </strong></i><strong>Newsletter:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Break the marketing mold</strong>. Stoicism may be ancient, but Ryan Holiday has made it feel new and modern. Amanda sees that reinvention as a creative north star. She says, “Let’s do something wild. Some of my favorite marketing campaigns have just been weird stuff. It breaks the mold and it gets something done.” Ryan Holiday didn’t market stoicism by copying academic textbooks, he made it approachable and surprising. B2B marketers should do the same. Surprise earns attention. A little weirdness, done with purpose, goes a long way.</li><li><strong>Make it usable, not just insightful</strong>. Ryan Holiday’s greatest trick isn’t sounding smart, it’s making stoicism actionable. Amanda says,  “He does things in such a bite-size, practical way that you can hold onto it.” That’s exactly how B2B content should work. Don’t just publish thought leadership that nods at trends. Give your audience tools they can actually apply. Teach them something they’ll remember at 4 PM on a chaotic Tuesday. If it doesn’t help them do their job better, it’s just noise.</li><li><strong>Anchor your content in core values</strong>. <i>The Daily Stoi</i>c isn’t random. It’s rooted in four core tenets: courage, temperance, justice, and wisdom. Amanda draws the parallel for marketers: “It’s all fostered and rooted in these core values or the stoic virtues, which you could look at your brand pillars in the same kind of light.” B2B content should be more than campaign-deep. When your content reflects your company’s true values, it resonates longer and travels farther. Think less about filling the calendar, and more about reinforcing what you stand for. </li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“ I really challenge my teams to get back to storytelling. You gotta break out of the box, so let's do something wild. Some of my favorite marketing campaigns I've ever done have just been weird stuff: bobbleheads, robots on the beach. Random things that are not B2B software, but it breaks the mold and it gets something done. I think Ryan's done that with his marketing of stoicism. He's broken the mold, right? He reinvigorated this ancient philosophy, and so that's definitely a lesson I think we can learn from him too on content.”</p><p>*“ So we are all about how do we take one thing and reuse it in different ways. I think if we look at Ryan and his newsletter, I kind of mentioned his repetition. I don't think he sends the exact same newsletter, you know, multiple times. But there's certainly similar messages where you can go back in your archives and dig those things up again and present it in a different way. Content is huge. It drives, internally and externally, all of our activities. But you gotta be really smart about how you do it and how you use it, 'cause you're competing with so much noise. It can definitely be challenging to again break that mold.”</p><p>*“ Something that makes him a tremendous marketer is that he really believes in what he's selling us, right? He's created this brand that is a lifestyle. Stoicism is a philosophy, so there's a lot of high value attached to it and how you live your life.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Amanda Dyson, VP, Head of Marketing at FourKites</p><p>[00:58] Why Ryan Holiday's <i>The Daily Stoic</i> Newsletter</p><p>[03:04] The Role of VP, Head of Marketing at Four Kites</p><p>[04:18] Origins of Ryan Holiday's <i>The Daily Stoic</i></p><p>[09:27] Understanding Tucker Max</p><p>[13:12] Stoicism 101: Old Ideas for Modern Chaos</p><p>[20:23] Building a Daily Ritual</p><p>[22:21] Strategies for Writing Like a Pro</p><p>[25:35] Inspiration as a Driver for Your Content</p><p>[35:55] Creating Marketing Tactics That Actually Matter</p><p>[39:00] FourKites' Content Strategy</p><p>[40:31] What's Working for Amanda Now?</p><p>[44:15] Measuring ROI at Four Kites</p><p>[49:49] Advice for Marketing Leaders</p><p>[51:27] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandadyson/">Connect with Amanda on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.fourkites.com/">Learn more about FourKites</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since 2014, Ryan Holiday’s <i>The Daily Stoic </i>newsletter has landed in inboxes every single morning, offering ancient wisdom in bite-size, highly clickable form.</p><p>It’s also a masterclass in content marketing. In this episode, we’re unpacking what B2B marketers can learn from <i>The Daily Stoic</i> with the help of Amanda Dyson, VP, Head of Marketing at FourKites.</p><p>Together, we explore how to break the marketing mold, why the most impactful content is also the most practical, and how anchoring your message in core values makes it stick. Stoicism isn’t just a philosophy; if done right, it’s a blueprint for modern marketing.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Amanda Dyson</strong></p><p>With 20 years B2B software and SaaS marketing expertise, Amanda specializes in go-to-market strategy; consultative marketing; change and people management; lead generation; account based marketing; partner co-marketing; integrated digital marketing; email marketing; live and virtual events; corporate branding and storytelling; account segmentation and targeting; project and budget management, and strategic advisement.</p><p>Amanda has run regional and global teams. She has a passion for people and results and a proven track record of success delivering on KPIs and OKRs. 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A little weirdness, done with purpose, goes a long way.</li><li><strong>Make it usable, not just insightful</strong>. Ryan Holiday’s greatest trick isn’t sounding smart, it’s making stoicism actionable. Amanda says,  “He does things in such a bite-size, practical way that you can hold onto it.” That’s exactly how B2B content should work. Don’t just publish thought leadership that nods at trends. Give your audience tools they can actually apply. Teach them something they’ll remember at 4 PM on a chaotic Tuesday. If it doesn’t help them do their job better, it’s just noise.</li><li><strong>Anchor your content in core values</strong>. <i>The Daily Stoi</i>c isn’t random. It’s rooted in four core tenets: courage, temperance, justice, and wisdom. Amanda draws the parallel for marketers: “It’s all fostered and rooted in these core values or the stoic virtues, which you could look at your brand pillars in the same kind of light.” B2B content should be more than campaign-deep. When your content reflects your company’s true values, it resonates longer and travels farther. Think less about filling the calendar, and more about reinforcing what you stand for. </li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“ I really challenge my teams to get back to storytelling. You gotta break out of the box, so let's do something wild. Some of my favorite marketing campaigns I've ever done have just been weird stuff: bobbleheads, robots on the beach. Random things that are not B2B software, but it breaks the mold and it gets something done. I think Ryan's done that with his marketing of stoicism. He's broken the mold, right? He reinvigorated this ancient philosophy, and so that's definitely a lesson I think we can learn from him too on content.”</p><p>*“ So we are all about how do we take one thing and reuse it in different ways. I think if we look at Ryan and his newsletter, I kind of mentioned his repetition. I don't think he sends the exact same newsletter, you know, multiple times. But there's certainly similar messages where you can go back in your archives and dig those things up again and present it in a different way. Content is huge. It drives, internally and externally, all of our activities. But you gotta be really smart about how you do it and how you use it, 'cause you're competing with so much noise. It can definitely be challenging to again break that mold.”</p><p>*“ Something that makes him a tremendous marketer is that he really believes in what he's selling us, right? He's created this brand that is a lifestyle. Stoicism is a philosophy, so there's a lot of high value attached to it and how you live your life.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Amanda Dyson, VP, Head of Marketing at FourKites</p><p>[00:58] Why Ryan Holiday's <i>The Daily Stoic</i> Newsletter</p><p>[03:04] The Role of VP, Head of Marketing at Four Kites</p><p>[04:18] Origins of Ryan Holiday's <i>The Daily Stoic</i></p><p>[09:27] Understanding Tucker Max</p><p>[13:12] Stoicism 101: Old Ideas for Modern Chaos</p><p>[20:23] Building a Daily Ritual</p><p>[22:21] Strategies for Writing Like a Pro</p><p>[25:35] Inspiration as a Driver for Your Content</p><p>[35:55] Creating Marketing Tactics That Actually Matter</p><p>[39:00] FourKites' Content Strategy</p><p>[40:31] What's Working for Amanda Now?</p><p>[44:15] Measuring ROI at Four Kites</p><p>[49:49] Advice for Marketing Leaders</p><p>[51:27] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandadyson/">Connect with Amanda on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.fourkites.com/">Learn more about FourKites</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Reinvention beats repetition every time. In a crowded market, it’s reimagination that sets you apart.</p><p>That’s the real lesson behind The New Look, a drama that follows Christian Dior as he rebuilds a whole new vision of fashion. In this episode, we’re taking inspiration from that spirit of transformation with the help of our special guest, Hrishi Kulkarni, Director of Customer Advocacy & Executive Programs at dbt Labs.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from narrative-driven branding, thoughtful reinvention, and the power of showing up with both creativity and compassion.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Hrishi Kulkarni</strong></p><p>Hrishi Kulkarni leads customer advocacy and executive programs at dbt Labs. Previously, Hrishi served as Head of Customer Marketing & Executive Programs at New Relic. He has also worked at Salesforce in Customer Engagement and Marketing and QStream in Customer Success and Professional Services. Hrishi brings with him over 16 years of experience in customer engagement. He is also an equality champion, SF LGBT Center board member and founder of LGBTQ+ ERGs in India and Asia.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> The New Look</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Storytelling is your superpower</strong>. In The New Look, Christian Dior tells stories through his fashion. His work is infused with personal meaning, from tributes to his sister to inspiration from his mother. Hrishi says, “Marketing is all about storytelling. I joined marketing because I love storytelling… it emotionally connects your product and your services to your audience.” In B2B, storytelling isn’t fluff, it’s how you make people care. It’s how you stand out. Don’t just tell your audience what your product does, tell them why it matters.</li><li><strong>Innovation only works when it’s authentic</strong>. Dior’s most memorable move wasn’t a massive runway spectacle; it was an intimate, unexpected fashion show that broke every rule. Hrishi explains, “He’s not going to have a huge fashion show… He’s going to create it in a very small space, a very personalized experience. Which never before any designer had done.” That decision wasn’t flashy for the sake of it. It was deeply intentional. For B2B marketers, it’s a reminder that innovation doesn’t mean gimmicks. It means staying true to your values and finding fresh, genuine ways to express them.</li><li><strong>Repetition kills good content</strong>. Dior didn’t copy what worked, he created what was next. Hrishi says, “As a customer marketer… we have to be creative in identifying and securing the right stories and then finding innovative ways to amplify those stories. If you keep amplifying different stories also in similar ways, at some point it is going to fall flat.” B2B marketers often default to the same formats: another case study, another quote, another video. But to keep your audience engaged, you have to rethink how you tell your stories, not just what stories you tell.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“ I love storytelling. It's because, if you think about it, storytelling truly impacts people's hearts and minds. It emotionally connects your product and your services to your audience. And that's exactly what Dior has done with his fashion. Like the perfume story you shared earlier, right? It's inspired by his sister. Like a lot of his design of his costumes, of his art, his all comes inspired from his mother. So he truly shows us how storytelling can drive the fashion industry. He started his fashion through the art of storytelling. Also thinking outside the box. If you saw the show, he's constantly innovating. He's constantly thinking outside the box. And as a customer marketer, you have to be constantly creative in identifying and securing the right stories and then finding innovative ways to amplify those stories. If you keep amplifying different stories also in similar ways, at some point it is going to fall flat. So it's always “how can I be innovative with these stories?” And then of course thought leadership, right? It's storytelling or thinking outside the box, being creative to showcase the thought leadership of your customers, their brand.”</p><p>*“ In terms of B2B, customers love to hear how other customers are doing, how they're using your platform. .And I always say that what makes a kickass story is it has to be data driven and there has to be some human element to it. And now that's your recipe of a powerful story. ”</p><p>*“ In a B2B world, we create all these customer stories, but what's our end goal? Our end goal is how are my sales teams, my how are my account executives going to leverage this story with other prospects, with other customers. So truly thinking that buyer journey, how are your different stories going to influence every stage in that buyer journey?”</p><p>*“ Being authentic is so important in marketing. That is something we learned from <i>The New Look</i>. Be authentic in what you do. The passion comes across genuinely. It comes across easily. It's very evident. Be innovative. Don't be afraid to take risks.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Hrishi Kulkarni, Customer Advocacy & Executive Programs Lead at dbt Labs</p><p>[01:10] Why <i>The New Look</i>?</p><p>[04:19] Customer Advocacy & Executive Programs at dbt Labs</p><p>[06:54] Origins of <i>The New Look</i></p><p>[11:54] B2B Marketing Takeaways from <i>The New Look</i></p><p>[24:57] Building a Strong Content Strategy</p><p>[27:53] Measuring ROI in Customer Marketing</p><p>[32:08] dbt Labs Executive Sponsorship Program</p><p>[34:12] Advice for Marketing Leaders</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hrishi-s-kulkarni/">Connect with Hrishi on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="http://www.getdbt.com/">Learn more about dbt Labs</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reinvention beats repetition every time. In a crowded market, it’s reimagination that sets you apart.</p><p>That’s the real lesson behind The New Look, a drama that follows Christian Dior as he rebuilds a whole new vision of fashion. In this episode, we’re taking inspiration from that spirit of transformation with the help of our special guest, Hrishi Kulkarni, Director of Customer Advocacy & Executive Programs at dbt Labs.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from narrative-driven branding, thoughtful reinvention, and the power of showing up with both creativity and compassion.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Hrishi Kulkarni</strong></p><p>Hrishi Kulkarni leads customer advocacy and executive programs at dbt Labs. Previously, Hrishi served as Head of Customer Marketing & Executive Programs at New Relic. He has also worked at Salesforce in Customer Engagement and Marketing and QStream in Customer Success and Professional Services. 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Dior’s most memorable move wasn’t a massive runway spectacle; it was an intimate, unexpected fashion show that broke every rule. Hrishi explains, “He’s not going to have a huge fashion show… He’s going to create it in a very small space, a very personalized experience. Which never before any designer had done.” That decision wasn’t flashy for the sake of it. It was deeply intentional. For B2B marketers, it’s a reminder that innovation doesn’t mean gimmicks. It means staying true to your values and finding fresh, genuine ways to express them.</li><li><strong>Repetition kills good content</strong>. Dior didn’t copy what worked, he created what was next. Hrishi says, “As a customer marketer… we have to be creative in identifying and securing the right stories and then finding innovative ways to amplify those stories. If you keep amplifying different stories also in similar ways, at some point it is going to fall flat.” B2B marketers often default to the same formats: another case study, another quote, another video. But to keep your audience engaged, you have to rethink how you tell your stories, not just what stories you tell.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“ I love storytelling. It's because, if you think about it, storytelling truly impacts people's hearts and minds. It emotionally connects your product and your services to your audience. And that's exactly what Dior has done with his fashion. Like the perfume story you shared earlier, right? It's inspired by his sister. Like a lot of his design of his costumes, of his art, his all comes inspired from his mother. So he truly shows us how storytelling can drive the fashion industry. He started his fashion through the art of storytelling. Also thinking outside the box. If you saw the show, he's constantly innovating. He's constantly thinking outside the box. And as a customer marketer, you have to be constantly creative in identifying and securing the right stories and then finding innovative ways to amplify those stories. If you keep amplifying different stories also in similar ways, at some point it is going to fall flat. So it's always “how can I be innovative with these stories?” And then of course thought leadership, right? It's storytelling or thinking outside the box, being creative to showcase the thought leadership of your customers, their brand.”</p><p>*“ In terms of B2B, customers love to hear how other customers are doing, how they're using your platform. .And I always say that what makes a kickass story is it has to be data driven and there has to be some human element to it. And now that's your recipe of a powerful story. ”</p><p>*“ In a B2B world, we create all these customer stories, but what's our end goal? Our end goal is how are my sales teams, my how are my account executives going to leverage this story with other prospects, with other customers. So truly thinking that buyer journey, how are your different stories going to influence every stage in that buyer journey?”</p><p>*“ Being authentic is so important in marketing. That is something we learned from <i>The New Look</i>. Be authentic in what you do. The passion comes across genuinely. It comes across easily. It's very evident. Be innovative. Don't be afraid to take risks.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Hrishi Kulkarni, Customer Advocacy & Executive Programs Lead at dbt Labs</p><p>[01:10] Why <i>The New Look</i>?</p><p>[04:19] Customer Advocacy & Executive Programs at dbt Labs</p><p>[06:54] Origins of <i>The New Look</i></p><p>[11:54] B2B Marketing Takeaways from <i>The New Look</i></p><p>[24:57] Building a Strong Content Strategy</p><p>[27:53] Measuring ROI in Customer Marketing</p><p>[32:08] dbt Labs Executive Sponsorship Program</p><p>[34:12] Advice for Marketing Leaders</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hrishi-s-kulkarni/">Connect with Hrishi on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="http://www.getdbt.com/">Learn more about dbt Labs</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Escaping the underworld may not sound like a marketing strategy until you look at how <i>Hades</i> turned it into a blueprint for success.</p><p>Developed by indie studio Supergiant Games, <i>Hades</i> isn’t just a video game, it’s a critically acclaimed masterpiece thanks to its iterative development, rich storytelling, and a fanbase that helped shape the game in real time. In this episode, we dive into the lessons marketers can learn from this roguelike phenomenon with special guest Zoe Hawkins, Director, Content Marketing & Integrated Campaign Strategy at Sumo Logic.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from fearless experimentation, community co-creation, and crafting content your audience can’t help but share.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Zoe Hawkins</strong></p><p>Zoe Hawkins is a former video game and tech journalist turned content marketer. She has over a decade of professional experience turning technical understanding into fluent communication. Working with a range of B2B tech companies, Zoe has helped create value across marketing and strategy. She also serves as co-lead for Sumo Logic’s sustainability-focused ERG, the Planeteers. When not working, Zoe is usually absorbed in speculative fiction – video games, books, or streaming media. She’s a mom to two cats and a grade-school-aged daughter, living with her husband in perpetually sunny Arizona.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Hades</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Experimentation is the only way forward</strong>. In <i>Hades</i>, dying isn’t a setback; it’s part of the process. Zoe says, “You keep experimenting and you're gonna fail. And that's okay... Each time you learn and you grow and you do it better.” For marketers, it’s a reminder that campaigns don’t need to be perfect out of the gate. Failure isn’t fatal. Failure is how you find what works.</li><li><strong>Build content with your community, not just for them</strong>. Supergiant launched <i>Hades</i> in early access, inviting players to shape the game as it evolved. Zoe explains, “They give feedback. It's almost like a co-design, co-development process with your fans.” B2B marketers can do the same by involving their audience early, whether through feedback loops, pilots, or beta content. Let your audience help build what they want. It not only strengthens relationships, but it also keeps them excited about what’s coming next.</li><li><strong>Create content that people want to share</strong>. Hades isn’t just a game people play, it’s one they rave about. Zoe asks, “How do you make it that people are actually happy to use your product and excited to use it… not just customer loyalty, but advocacy? They wanna tell other people, ‘you will not believe how cool this thing is’.” That’s exactly what <i>Hades</i> achieves through intentional design, standout storytelling, and undeniable personality. Marketers should aim for the same. Treat your content the way <i>Hades</i> treats gameplay, and your audience won’t just consume it, they’ll spread it.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“ You keep experimenting, and you're gonna fail. And that's okay. If I think about it, you come into a new team or you come into a new product launch or you come into a new organization, whatever it might be. And you think you know how to play the game, you think you know what it takes to succeed, to beat the boss, whatever that is. And you do the run according to the way that you've done it, maybe in other roles or other companies, and you die, you fail. It doesn't necessarily go a hundred percent to plan, and that's okay. And then you get to restart with a new weapon, a new strategy, a new approach, whatever that might be, and pull it back together. Bring it back in to say, ‘okay, let's, let's try it again. Let's run it again and see if we're successful this time.’ And that just feels so liberating and then each time you learn and you grow and you do it better.”</p><p>*“ I love the idea that they only make one game at a time, that they're so focused, and it comes through in the work. It's so polished, it's so well made, and clearly made with love, that transfers to me. And I think if we tie it back to that B2B marketing, I think about working in tech, working in SaaS, how do you give that moment of delight where it's not just like, ‘oh my gosh, your company saved me this amount of money or whatever, or this tool is worthwhile for me.’ But how do you make it that people are actually happy to use your product and excited to use it, or have that sense of not just customer loyalty, but advocacy. They wanna tell other people, ‘you will not believe how cool this thing is.’”</p><p>*“ One of my favorite kinds of content to make is case studies because we get to make our customer shine and tell their story… I know our story backwards and forward. What's your story? Why are you winning with this? Why are you succeeding with this? And being able to tell something cool that they figured out, a way they're using our product that we didn't even think about that's interesting or cool.”</p><p>*“ Not being afraid to experiment, not being afraid to fail, I think, is such an important marketing lesson, because you're gonna have some risks that are gonna be great, and you're gonna take some risks that are gonna just completely flop. And that's okay. That's how we learn. That's how we try new things.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Zoe Hawkins, Director, Content Marketing & Integrated Campaign Strategy at Sumo Logic</p><p>[02:20] Why <i>Hades</i>?</p><p>[03:08] The Role of Director of Content Marketing and Integrated Campaigns at Sumo Logic</p><p>[03:54] Origins of <i>Hades</i></p><p>[15:29] B2B Marketing Lessons from <i>Hades</i></p><p>[44:32] Importance of Humor in Branding and Content Strategy</p><p>[49:47] Versatility of Video Content</p><p>[54:11] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/moonstormer/">Connect with Zoe on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="http://www.sumologic.com/">Learn more about Sumo Logic</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Escaping the underworld may not sound like a marketing strategy until you look at how <i>Hades</i> turned it into a blueprint for success.</p><p>Developed by indie studio Supergiant Games, <i>Hades</i> isn’t just a video game, it’s a critically acclaimed masterpiece thanks to its iterative development, rich storytelling, and a fanbase that helped shape the game in real time. In this episode, we dive into the lessons marketers can learn from this roguelike phenomenon with special guest Zoe Hawkins, Director, Content Marketing & Integrated Campaign Strategy at Sumo Logic.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from fearless experimentation, community co-creation, and crafting content your audience can’t help but share.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Zoe Hawkins</strong></p><p>Zoe Hawkins is a former video game and tech journalist turned content marketer. She has over a decade of professional experience turning technical understanding into fluent communication. Working with a range of B2B tech companies, Zoe has helped create value across marketing and strategy. She also serves as co-lead for Sumo Logic’s sustainability-focused ERG, the Planeteers. When not working, Zoe is usually absorbed in speculative fiction – video games, books, or streaming media. She’s a mom to two cats and a grade-school-aged daughter, living with her husband in perpetually sunny Arizona.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Hades</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Experimentation is the only way forward</strong>. In <i>Hades</i>, dying isn’t a setback; it’s part of the process. Zoe says, “You keep experimenting and you're gonna fail. And that's okay... Each time you learn and you grow and you do it better.” For marketers, it’s a reminder that campaigns don’t need to be perfect out of the gate. Failure isn’t fatal. Failure is how you find what works.</li><li><strong>Build content with your community, not just for them</strong>. Supergiant launched <i>Hades</i> in early access, inviting players to shape the game as it evolved. Zoe explains, “They give feedback. It's almost like a co-design, co-development process with your fans.” B2B marketers can do the same by involving their audience early, whether through feedback loops, pilots, or beta content. Let your audience help build what they want. It not only strengthens relationships, but it also keeps them excited about what’s coming next.</li><li><strong>Create content that people want to share</strong>. Hades isn’t just a game people play, it’s one they rave about. Zoe asks, “How do you make it that people are actually happy to use your product and excited to use it… not just customer loyalty, but advocacy? They wanna tell other people, ‘you will not believe how cool this thing is’.” That’s exactly what <i>Hades</i> achieves through intentional design, standout storytelling, and undeniable personality. Marketers should aim for the same. Treat your content the way <i>Hades</i> treats gameplay, and your audience won’t just consume it, they’ll spread it.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“ You keep experimenting, and you're gonna fail. And that's okay. If I think about it, you come into a new team or you come into a new product launch or you come into a new organization, whatever it might be. And you think you know how to play the game, you think you know what it takes to succeed, to beat the boss, whatever that is. And you do the run according to the way that you've done it, maybe in other roles or other companies, and you die, you fail. It doesn't necessarily go a hundred percent to plan, and that's okay. 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They wanna tell other people, ‘you will not believe how cool this thing is.’”</p><p>*“ One of my favorite kinds of content to make is case studies because we get to make our customer shine and tell their story… I know our story backwards and forward. What's your story? Why are you winning with this? Why are you succeeding with this? And being able to tell something cool that they figured out, a way they're using our product that we didn't even think about that's interesting or cool.”</p><p>*“ Not being afraid to experiment, not being afraid to fail, I think, is such an important marketing lesson, because you're gonna have some risks that are gonna be great, and you're gonna take some risks that are gonna just completely flop. And that's okay. That's how we learn. That's how we try new things.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Zoe Hawkins, Director, Content Marketing & Integrated Campaign Strategy at Sumo Logic</p><p>[02:20] Why <i>Hades</i>?</p><p>[03:08] The Role of Director of Content Marketing and Integrated Campaigns at Sumo Logic</p><p>[03:54] Origins of <i>Hades</i></p><p>[15:29] B2B Marketing Lessons from <i>Hades</i></p><p>[44:32] Importance of Humor in Branding and Content Strategy</p><p>[49:47] Versatility of Video Content</p><p>[54:11] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/moonstormer/">Connect with Zoe on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="http://www.sumologic.com/">Learn more about Sumo Logic</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Reviving vinyl in the digital age sounded impossible until the creation of Record Store Day changed everything.</p><p>Launched with Metallica at a San Francisco record shop in 2008, it became a global celebration of indie music culture and a blueprint for building real human connections. In this episode, we drop the needle on what marketers can learn from vinyl’s resurgence with special guest Robert McCauley, Sr. Director of Content Marketing at Upwork.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from community-driven events, the power of exclusivity, and how to build content strategies that truly resonate.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Robert McCauley</strong></p><p>Robert has 20+ years of experience in content marketing, editorial, and communications. At Upwork, he leads a team of more than two dozen amazing content marketers, customer marketers, and multimedia professionals. (In fact, you can find out more about how awesome they are by checking out this link: https://bit.ly/3PGXNcD.) Robert lives in the San Francisco Bay Area with his wife and their high-octane fourth-grader. Ask him about his vinyl collection if you’re looking to waste an hour or two.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Record Store Day:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Sell the experience, not just the product</strong>. Exclusivity and differentiation aren’t just nice-to-haves; they’re why people line up on Record Store Day. As Robert puts it, “Part of the reason that someone is gonna pay $40 for something that they could, in theory, get for free is because the artists and record labels have done a nice job of selling the exclusivity and the differentiation. 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We're all flooded with digital stuff all day, every day... the thing that cuts through that are physical things because they're so far, few and far between nowadays.” For marketers, this is a cue to think tactile because sometimes, the most unforgettable touchpoint isn’t a notification, it’s something your audience can actually hold.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“ When done right and in a very strategic way, analog physical media can really make an impact, right? We're all flooded with digital stuff all day, every day. There's the whole joke of you going from kind of your midsize screen to your small screen, to your big screen over the course of the day. And the thing that cuts through that are physical things because they're sort of so far few and far between nowadays.”</p><p>*“ Record Store Day at the end of the day is really an awesome in-person event. And in-person events, I think, in general, can be really effective for marketers. 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It's definitely a long-term play, but it is very counter to, I think, a lot of our instincts of squeeze as much as we can as quickly as we can.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Robert McCauley, Sr. Director, Content Marketing at Upwork</p><p>[01:26] Why Record Store Day?</p><p>[03:21] Origins of Record Store Day</p><p>[10:26] The Draw of Vinyl</p><p>[16:51] Robert's First Record Store Day</p><p>[20:15] Value of Physical Music in a Digital Age</p><p>[28:58] B2B Marketing Lessons from Record Store Day</p><p>[47:43] Upwork's Content Strategy</p><p>[51:41] Upwork's Recent Content Creation</p><p>[55:21] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p>Links</p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertmccauley/">Connect with Robert on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="http://upwork.com/">Learn more about Upwork</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reviving vinyl in the digital age sounded impossible until the creation of Record Store Day changed everything.</p><p>Launched with Metallica at a San Francisco record shop in 2008, it became a global celebration of indie music culture and a blueprint for building real human connections. In this episode, we drop the needle on what marketers can learn from vinyl’s resurgence with special guest Robert McCauley, Sr. Director of Content Marketing at Upwork.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from community-driven events, the power of exclusivity, and how to build content strategies that truly resonate.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Robert McCauley</strong></p><p>Robert has 20+ years of experience in content marketing, editorial, and communications. At Upwork, he leads a team of more than two dozen amazing content marketers, customer marketers, and multimedia professionals. 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      <description><![CDATA[<p>A man crashes through walls. A woman joins him. Together, they run straight into the sky. No dialogue. Just music, motion, and a pair of Levi’s jeans.</p><p>This is <i>Odyssey</i>, the Levi’s ad that changed how we think about brand storytelling. In this episode, we're unpacking its marketing lessons with our special guest, Paula Vivas, Head of US Marketing at Freepik.</p><p>Together, we explore why storytelling is the most powerful strategy, how boldness builds lasting brand identity, and why emotional resonance is your greatest competitive edge.</p><p>Because the best marketing doesn’t just show a product, it makes you feel something real.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Paula Vivas</strong></p><p>Paula Vivas is the Head of US Marketing at Freepik. She has over 15 years of experience in visual design, online marketing, and social media marketing, with a passion for creating and promoting engaging and innovative content.</p><p>Paula is also the co-founder of Charis, a platform that celebrates AI‑empowered creativity. With that, they launched the Charis Awards, a global competition that showcases the best AI-generated images and their creators.</p><p>Paula’s experience spans across Product Marketing, Content Marketing, Events, Ads and Growth Marketing in the Tech industry.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Levi's Odyssey </strong></i><strong>ad:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Story is the strategy</strong>. The Levi's<i> Odyssey </i>ad didn’t just sell jeans, it sold a feeling of liberation. Paula recalls watching it and thinking, “I want to be able to give a meaning to a brand.” The brilliance wasn’t in the product, but in the story it told, breaking through walls, both literally and metaphorically. In marketing, stories aren't a “nice to have”; they’re the whole point. When you anchor your brand in a powerful narrative, you move from transactional to transformational.</li><li><strong>Break through with brand identity</strong>. In the Levi's<i> Odyssey </i>ad, two people sprint through wall after wall, finally launching into the sky, all while wearing Levi's jeans. To Paula, it wasn’t just an ad; it was a masterclass in brand symbolism. No voiceover. No product breakdown. Just raw, kinetic metaphor for freedom and durability. In B2B, the lesson holds: skip the specs and aim for the soul. The brands that break through aren’t the loudest, they’re the ones that hit instinct before intellect.</li><li><strong>Emotion is the ultimate differentiator</strong>. What makes the Levi's<i> Odyssey </i>ad timeless wasn’t just its visuals; it was how it made Paula feel. In an era of AI-generated everything, emotion is your moat. Tools can replicate images, but not meaning. 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Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Marketing isn’t just about tactics, it’s about strategy. And most times, the smartest move is playing the long game.</p><p>That’s the strategy behind <i>Settlers of Catan</i>, a board game built on resource trading, calculated risks, and thinking three steps ahead. In this episode, we’re drawing inspiration from its gameplay with our special guest, Jen Grant, Chief Marketing Officer at Dialpad.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from staying focused on their own path, anticipating competitor reactions, and building a diversified strategy that drives long-term growth. </p><p>Because in both <i>Settlers of Catan</i> and marketing, the real power play is thinking beyond your next move.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Jen Grant</strong></p><p>Before joining Dialpad as Chief Marketing Officer in October 2024, Jen served on the Dialpad Board of Directors, held C-level positions at Cube and Appify, led Looker’s marketing, drove the rebrand of Elastic, and grew Box to an industry-leading enterprise content company. Jen holds an MBA from Wharton, a BA from Princeton, and has been recognized as one of the Top 100 Princeton Technology leaders.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Settlers of Catan</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Play your own game</strong>. In Catan, constantly reacting to what others are doing can leave you scrambling. The same applies in B2B marketing. Jen encourages a more grounded approach: “You do much better, sort of very quietly focusing on your own growth.” Instead of chasing competitors or mimicking market leaders, build a strategy that aligns with your own long-term vision. Because sustainable growth isn’t won through noise, but through quiet, deliberate moves.</li><li><strong>Always be forecasting</strong>. Winning at Catan means thinking ahead, not just about your next move, but the ones after that. Jen says,  “I actually really love the strategy part of it. Thinking about, okay, we're about to launch a particular feature. What's that gonna make the competition do?” In a competitive landscape, it’s not enough to plan for what you control; you also need to anticipate how others will react. Great marketers operate like strategic game players.</li><li><strong>Don’t bet on just one road to victory</strong>. Catan punishes one-dimensional players. You can’t win by hoarding sheep alone, you need balance. Jen explains, “It is never one thing…It's all of the things at the same time, executed perfectly well.” Diversification isn’t just about spreading risk; it’s about orchestrating a full-spectrum effort that compounds over time. The most impactful marketing isn’t siloed, it’s symphonic.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“The thing about Catan, and other board games, this might come into play too, but you could potentially spend all of your time trying to crush the other players…And when you play a game a lot, you're like, oh, I'm gonna try this strategy this time, see what happens. And one of the things that I've definitely never seen work is if you focus all your energy on messing with other people. You do much better sort of very quietly, focusing on your own growth.”</p><p>*“ I actually think the reason I like the game so much is the game theory of thinking ahead, 2, 3, 4 steps ahead. And so you're thinking how am I gonna achieve my goals, but what are they gonna do when I do, whatever it is, buy this road. I love that part of the game. I love thinking out ahead, okay, if we do this, then what are they gonna do? And for marketing, I think we often get caught up in the fun, creative part of marketing. But I actually really love the strategy part of it, of thinking about, okay, we're about to launch a particular feature. What's that gonna make the competition do? Are they gonna freak out? Are we kind of catching up to them? And maybe we shouldn't be so loud about it 'cause we should have had this before. All of the different implications of what you do in a market and then how the competition actually responds.”</p><p>*“ So the thing about Catan at the very beginning of the game is that there are numbers on every square. And so you get to choose two places to put your little settlement, and there are three numbers for each of those settlements. So right there, you have six numbers, and the numbers are on resources. And what's really important, and many people don't think about this, is you wanna have all of the resources available to you on numbers that get rolled frequently, but you can't be on only two numbers. And it kind of speaks to diversifying tactics. So that to me goes right to marketing. Oftentimes, we'll get CEOs or CFOs, probably more likely. Just find that one thing that works really well and put all your budget into the one thing, and you're like, it is never one thing. Never, never, never is it one thing. It's all of the things at the same time executed perfectly well.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Jen Grant, Chief Marketing Officer at Dialpad</p><p>[02:10] Why <i>Settlers of Catan</i></p><p>[03:08] The Role of CMO at Dialpad</p><p>[04:52] Dialpad's Evolution</p><p>[09:19] Dialpad's Super Bowl Ad</p><p>[10:40] Origins of <i>Settlers of Catan</i></p><p>[16:23] B2B Marketing Lessons from <i>Settlers of Catan</i></p><p>[49:47] How Jen is Investing in Brand and Content</p><p>[56:25] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jencgrant/">Connect with Jen on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.dialpad.com/">Learn more about Dialpad</a></p><p>About Remarkable!</p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marketing isn’t just about tactics, it’s about strategy. And most times, the smartest move is playing the long game.</p><p>That’s the strategy behind <i>Settlers of Catan</i>, a board game built on resource trading, calculated risks, and thinking three steps ahead. In this episode, we’re drawing inspiration from its gameplay with our special guest, Jen Grant, Chief Marketing Officer at Dialpad.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from staying focused on their own path, anticipating competitor reactions, and building a diversified strategy that drives long-term growth. </p><p>Because in both <i>Settlers of Catan</i> and marketing, the real power play is thinking beyond your next move.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Jen Grant</strong></p><p>Before joining Dialpad as Chief Marketing Officer in October 2024, Jen served on the Dialpad Board of Directors, held C-level positions at Cube and Appify, led Looker’s marketing, drove the rebrand of Elastic, and grew Box to an industry-leading enterprise content company. Jen holds an MBA from Wharton, a BA from Princeton, and has been recognized as one of the Top 100 Princeton Technology leaders.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Settlers of Catan</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Play your own game</strong>. In Catan, constantly reacting to what others are doing can leave you scrambling. The same applies in B2B marketing. Jen encourages a more grounded approach: “You do much better, sort of very quietly focusing on your own growth.” Instead of chasing competitors or mimicking market leaders, build a strategy that aligns with your own long-term vision. Because sustainable growth isn’t won through noise, but through quiet, deliberate moves.</li><li><strong>Always be forecasting</strong>. Winning at Catan means thinking ahead, not just about your next move, but the ones after that. Jen says,  “I actually really love the strategy part of it. Thinking about, okay, we're about to launch a particular feature. What's that gonna make the competition do?” In a competitive landscape, it’s not enough to plan for what you control; you also need to anticipate how others will react. Great marketers operate like strategic game players.</li><li><strong>Don’t bet on just one road to victory</strong>. Catan punishes one-dimensional players. You can’t win by hoarding sheep alone, you need balance. Jen explains, “It is never one thing…It's all of the things at the same time, executed perfectly well.” Diversification isn’t just about spreading risk; it’s about orchestrating a full-spectrum effort that compounds over time. The most impactful marketing isn’t siloed, it’s symphonic.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“The thing about Catan, and other board games, this might come into play too, but you could potentially spend all of your time trying to crush the other players…And when you play a game a lot, you're like, oh, I'm gonna try this strategy this time, see what happens. And one of the things that I've definitely never seen work is if you focus all your energy on messing with other people. You do much better sort of very quietly, focusing on your own growth.”</p><p>*“ I actually think the reason I like the game so much is the game theory of thinking ahead, 2, 3, 4 steps ahead. And so you're thinking how am I gonna achieve my goals, but what are they gonna do when I do, whatever it is, buy this road. I love that part of the game. I love thinking out ahead, okay, if we do this, then what are they gonna do? And for marketing, I think we often get caught up in the fun, creative part of marketing. But I actually really love the strategy part of it, of thinking about, okay, we're about to launch a particular feature. What's that gonna make the competition do? Are they gonna freak out? Are we kind of catching up to them? And maybe we shouldn't be so loud about it 'cause we should have had this before. All of the different implications of what you do in a market and then how the competition actually responds.”</p><p>*“ So the thing about Catan at the very beginning of the game is that there are numbers on every square. And so you get to choose two places to put your little settlement, and there are three numbers for each of those settlements. So right there, you have six numbers, and the numbers are on resources. And what's really important, and many people don't think about this, is you wanna have all of the resources available to you on numbers that get rolled frequently, but you can't be on only two numbers. And it kind of speaks to diversifying tactics. So that to me goes right to marketing. Oftentimes, we'll get CEOs or CFOs, probably more likely. Just find that one thing that works really well and put all your budget into the one thing, and you're like, it is never one thing. Never, never, never is it one thing. It's all of the things at the same time executed perfectly well.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Jen Grant, Chief Marketing Officer at Dialpad</p><p>[02:10] Why <i>Settlers of Catan</i></p><p>[03:08] The Role of CMO at Dialpad</p><p>[04:52] Dialpad's Evolution</p><p>[09:19] Dialpad's Super Bowl Ad</p><p>[10:40] Origins of <i>Settlers of Catan</i></p><p>[16:23] B2B Marketing Lessons from <i>Settlers of Catan</i></p><p>[49:47] How Jen is Investing in Brand and Content</p><p>[56:25] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jencgrant/">Connect with Jen on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.dialpad.com/">Learn more about Dialpad</a></p><p>About Remarkable!</p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>Marketing isn’t just about tactics, it’s about strategy. And most times, the smartest move is playing the long game.

That’s the strategy behind Settlers of Catan, a board game built on resource trading, calculated risks, and thinking three steps ahead. In this episode, we’re drawing inspiration from its gameplay with our special guest, Jen Grant, Chief Marketing Officer at Dialpad.

Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from staying focused on their own path, anticipating competitor reactions, and building a diversified strategy that drives long-term growth. 

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Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from staying focused on their own path, anticipating competitor reactions, and building a diversified strategy that drives long-term growth. 

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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Polished is out. Grit is in. If you want your brand to cut through the noise, it might be time to take a cue from the underground music scene.</p><p>In this episode, we’re taking lessons from 90s indie rock with special guest Scott Rayburn, CMO of DataArt. </p><p>Together, we talk about how brands can market with meaning, stay relevant in the digital age, and create content that hits like your favorite song.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Scott Rayburn</strong></p><p>Scott Rayburn is the Chief Marketing Officer at DataArt. He’s experienced in leading cross-functional, high-performing content, GTM/sales, comms, operations, and creative teams, and skilled in content strategy, sales enablement, demand generation, SEO, product marketing, website strategy, branding, partner marketing, and providing creative direction.</p><p>Scott has been with DataArt since 2023. Prior to his current role, he served as Director of GTM & Content at global technology services company Wizeline. He has also led product marketing at companies like The Risk Management Association and Proscia.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>90s Indie Rock:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Lead with authenticity</strong>. Great marketing doesn’t have to be glossy, it just has to be real. The best indie rock bands of the '90s didn’t rely on flashy production or major label backing to build loyal followings. They embraced raw sound, DIY, and intimate venues, and that resonated deeply with fans. Scott draws a parallel to modern marketing: “People can see through BS… you actually generally will get better results from the kind of authentic stuff.”</li><li><strong>Think in lifetimes, not just campaigns</strong>. The strongest brands create lasting emotional connections, much like your favorite bands. “These bands that started in the eighties are still filling up 5,000-person theaters today,” Scott explains. Why? Because their fans feel a deep, emotional connection. For marketers, this means nurturing your audience beyond the funnel. Build a brand people want to grow old with, not just click on once.</li><li><strong>Stay active on every channel</strong>. Indie rock bands don’t just put out an album and disappear. Scott says, “Even if they're not making new songs, they need these channels to stay relevant, to sell tickets, to sell merch. It's all kinds of tied to marketing. And this is a tie between the authenticity and customer lifetime value. It's really activating that in a digital age.” Marketers need to do the same. A strong multi-channel strategy ensures your message reaches people where they are, whether that’s a blog, a webinar, an event, or a TikTok feed. Being present across platforms consistently helps brands stay top of mind, accessible, and adaptable to change.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“ This authenticity that we were talking about with these bands, people can see through BS. Whether it's like an Instagram reel or a LinkedIn ad, or an email campaign. It can still work. Your marketing can still work if it's completely polished. But I think, and I see from some results that come from a company work that DataArt is doing. You actually generally will get better results from the kind of authentic stuff. And this is kind of where you see brand maybe driving more revenue than demand generation, but who can actually count the dollars from brand? Well, not me, but maybe someone can let me know. So those conversations are happening.”</p><p>*“ These bands that started in the eighties are still filling up 5,000-person theaters today… There's this multi-channel approach, which is a huge part of marketing and content marketing. You notice they're all on Spotify. They all have websites, they all have social media. Even if they're not making new songs, they need these channels to stay relevant, to sell tickets, to sell merch, e-commerce. It's all kind of tied to marketing. And this is a tie between the authenticity and customer lifetime value. It's really activating that in a digital age.</p><p>*“ The number one thing I've noticed in content marketing is the huge need to transition from the faceless 1000-word blog post to something that's more interactive. The quote with somebody's face on your social media post is gonna perform five times better than the faceless five AI trends.”</p><p>*“ You can't do everything yourself. Build a good team around you. Be T-shaped 'cause you're not gonna be a marketing leader if you're not T-shaped…And try to create some way that you can stay focused on your strengths, and then lean on others who have strengths of their own. Have this kind of holistically built type of leadership team.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Scott Rayburn, CMO at DataArt</p><p>[02:02] Why 90s Indie Rock?</p><p>[03:53] What is Record Store Day?</p><p>[04:55] The Role of CMO at Data Art</p><p>[06:38] Origins of 90s Indie Rock</p><p>[10:50] The Indie Rock Movement and Its Impact</p><p>[20:30] Building Community Through Music</p><p>[31:11] B2B Marketing Takeaways from 90s Indie Rock</p><p>[38:39] How You Can Be More Authentic in Your Marketing</p><p>[46:55] Advice for marketing leaders</p><p>[47:29] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-rayburn/">Connect with Scott on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.dataart.com/">Learn more about DataArt</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Polished is out. Grit is in. If you want your brand to cut through the noise, it might be time to take a cue from the underground music scene.</p><p>In this episode, we’re taking lessons from 90s indie rock with special guest Scott Rayburn, CMO of DataArt. </p><p>Together, we talk about how brands can market with meaning, stay relevant in the digital age, and create content that hits like your favorite song.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Scott Rayburn</strong></p><p>Scott Rayburn is the Chief Marketing Officer at DataArt. He’s experienced in leading cross-functional, high-performing content, GTM/sales, comms, operations, and creative teams, and skilled in content strategy, sales enablement, demand generation, SEO, product marketing, website strategy, branding, partner marketing, and providing creative direction.</p><p>Scott has been with DataArt since 2023. Prior to his current role, he served as Director of GTM & Content at global technology services company Wizeline. He has also led product marketing at companies like The Risk Management Association and Proscia.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>90s Indie Rock:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Lead with authenticity</strong>. Great marketing doesn’t have to be glossy, it just has to be real. The best indie rock bands of the '90s didn’t rely on flashy production or major label backing to build loyal followings. They embraced raw sound, DIY, and intimate venues, and that resonated deeply with fans. Scott draws a parallel to modern marketing: “People can see through BS… you actually generally will get better results from the kind of authentic stuff.”</li><li><strong>Think in lifetimes, not just campaigns</strong>. The strongest brands create lasting emotional connections, much like your favorite bands. “These bands that started in the eighties are still filling up 5,000-person theaters today,” Scott explains. Why? Because their fans feel a deep, emotional connection. For marketers, this means nurturing your audience beyond the funnel. Build a brand people want to grow old with, not just click on once.</li><li><strong>Stay active on every channel</strong>. Indie rock bands don’t just put out an album and disappear. Scott says, “Even if they're not making new songs, they need these channels to stay relevant, to sell tickets, to sell merch. It's all kinds of tied to marketing. And this is a tie between the authenticity and customer lifetime value. It's really activating that in a digital age.” Marketers need to do the same. A strong multi-channel strategy ensures your message reaches people where they are, whether that’s a blog, a webinar, an event, or a TikTok feed. Being present across platforms consistently helps brands stay top of mind, accessible, and adaptable to change.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“ This authenticity that we were talking about with these bands, people can see through BS. Whether it's like an Instagram reel or a LinkedIn ad, or an email campaign. It can still work. Your marketing can still work if it's completely polished. But I think, and I see from some results that come from a company work that DataArt is doing. You actually generally will get better results from the kind of authentic stuff. And this is kind of where you see brand maybe driving more revenue than demand generation, but who can actually count the dollars from brand? Well, not me, but maybe someone can let me know. So those conversations are happening.”</p><p>*“ These bands that started in the eighties are still filling up 5,000-person theaters today… There's this multi-channel approach, which is a huge part of marketing and content marketing. You notice they're all on Spotify. They all have websites, they all have social media. Even if they're not making new songs, they need these channels to stay relevant, to sell tickets, to sell merch, e-commerce. It's all kind of tied to marketing. And this is a tie between the authenticity and customer lifetime value. It's really activating that in a digital age.</p><p>*“ The number one thing I've noticed in content marketing is the huge need to transition from the faceless 1000-word blog post to something that's more interactive. The quote with somebody's face on your social media post is gonna perform five times better than the faceless five AI trends.”</p><p>*“ You can't do everything yourself. Build a good team around you. Be T-shaped 'cause you're not gonna be a marketing leader if you're not T-shaped…And try to create some way that you can stay focused on your strengths, and then lean on others who have strengths of their own. Have this kind of holistically built type of leadership team.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Scott Rayburn, CMO at DataArt</p><p>[02:02] Why 90s Indie Rock?</p><p>[03:53] What is Record Store Day?</p><p>[04:55] The Role of CMO at Data Art</p><p>[06:38] Origins of 90s Indie Rock</p><p>[10:50] The Indie Rock Movement and Its Impact</p><p>[20:30] Building Community Through Music</p><p>[31:11] B2B Marketing Takeaways from 90s Indie Rock</p><p>[38:39] How You Can Be More Authentic in Your Marketing</p><p>[46:55] Advice for marketing leaders</p><p>[47:29] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-rayburn/">Connect with Scott on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.dataart.com/">Learn more about DataArt</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>Polished is out. Grit is in. If you want your brand to cut through the noise, it might be time to take a cue from the underground music scene.

In this episode, we’re taking lessons from 90s indie rock with special guest Scott Rayburn, CMO of DataArt. 

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      <itunes:subtitle>Polished is out. Grit is in. If you want your brand to cut through the noise, it might be time to take a cue from the underground music scene.

In this episode, we’re taking lessons from 90s indie rock with special guest Scott Rayburn, CMO of DataArt. 

Together, we talk about how brands can market with meaning, stay relevant in the digital age, and create content that hits like your favorite song.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>At 83 years old, Martha Stewart is still as relevant as ever, and she just released a new documentary to prove it. <i>Martha</i> takes us through the highs, lows, and reinventions of her iconic career.</p><p>In this episode, we’re diving into the world of <i>Martha</i> and the power of documentaries with our special guest, Amy Holtzman, Chief Marketing Officer at CHEQ. Together, we’re exploring what B2B marketers can learn from bringing documentary-style storytelling into their marketing and the legacy Martha Stewart built. We’re talking about how to build an authentic brand, own your unique style, and stay top of mind for decades.</p><p>Because let’s be real: who wouldn’t want their brand to have Martha Stewart-level resilience?</p><p><strong>About our guest, Amy Holtzman</strong></p><p>Amy Holtzman is Chief Marketing Officer at CHEQ. Amy brings 20 years of marketing experience to CHEQ, including tenure as CMO and head of marketing at Spring Health, AlphaSense, and Splash. She is also a founding member of Chief, a private network that connects and supports female leaders, and co-founder of NYC-based Women in Revenue Marketing.  </p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Martha</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Resilience builds a legacy</strong>. Martha Stewart’s documentary doesn’t shy away from the tough moments, and that’s part of what makes her story so powerful. In business, as in life, setbacks are inevitable. Amy Holtzman puts it simply: “You gotta show up the next day… roll with the punches and figure out how you get through it.” Resilience and conviction aren’t just admirable traits,  they’re essential for building a brand that lasts for decades.</li><li><strong>Own your style</strong>. Martha’s perfectionism is part of her brand. She’s unapologetically herself, and it’s helped her stand out for decades. Amy encourages marketers to take a page from that approach. She explains, “ Martha's an unapologetic perfectionist… Martha owns it, and it's what made her successful. And I think you have to not necessarily own Martha's style, but you have to own your own style.” In B2B marketing, embracing your quirks and leaning into what makes you different is more powerful than playing it safe.</li><li><strong>Build trust through authenticity</strong>. Martha’s documentary reminds us that connection comes from honesty. Her brand works because it’s consistent and deeply personal. Amy says the same holds true in marketing, “As humans, we crave connection…I  think people shy away from it and B2B a lot of times because they're worried… I think that's what we want. And we can also kind of sniff bulls*** a mile away.” Don’t hide behind jargon or trends. The more human your brand feels, the more trust you’ll build.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“  You're gonna get knocked down…But you gotta show up the next day. You have to kind of do it all in stride. If you wanna make it right and make a name for yourself and for your business, you have to just like roll with the punches and figure out how you get through it.”</p><p>*“ You gotta own what makes you special and unique, right? Martha's an unapologetic perfectionist. She insists on things being her way. A lot of times like women can get negative feedback about that and Martha owns it, and it's what made her successful. And I think you have to not necessarily own Martha's style, but you have to own your own style. It's hard to change. You can adapt in certain situations, but you're not gonna change who you are. And I do think you've gotta own it. You gotta own your own unique style. And sometimes that's not what everybody loves, but it's also what makes you and also your brand special and unique.”</p><p>*“ I feel like as humans we crave connection and look for commonalities, right? And I think people shy away from it, and B2B a lot of times, because they're worried. What if somebody doesn't like that thing or doesn't have the same values that I have? We need to think about what those things are that we share, but also, there's room to be ourselves and be authentic, like Martha, a bit more too. Because, as humans, I think that's what we want, right? And we can also kind of sniff bullsh** a mile away, right? When somebody's not who they say they are. So I think there's room for a bit more.”</p><p>*“ I know we're probably all sick of like everything AI, but I actually think it's incredibly important to stay really up to speed and think about it beyond productivity.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Amy Holtzman, Chief Marketing Officer at CHEQ</p><p>[02:07] Why <i>Martha</i>, the Martha Stewart Documentary</p><p>[02:40] The Role of CMO at CHEQ</p><p>[05:09] Breaking Down <i>Martha</i></p><p>[14:22] B2B Marketing Takeaways from <i>Martha</i></p><p>[19:57] The Importance of Authentic Storytelling</p><p>[25:27] Why You Should Be Documenting Brand Moments</p><p>[32:36] CHEQ's Marketing Strategy</p><p>[36:14] The Power in Reinventing and Not Replicating</p><p>[42:22] The Future of AI in Marketing</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/aholtzman/">Connect with Amy on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://cheq.ai/">Learn more about CHEQ</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At 83 years old, Martha Stewart is still as relevant as ever, and she just released a new documentary to prove it. <i>Martha</i> takes us through the highs, lows, and reinventions of her iconic career.</p><p>In this episode, we’re diving into the world of <i>Martha</i> and the power of documentaries with our special guest, Amy Holtzman, Chief Marketing Officer at CHEQ. Together, we’re exploring what B2B marketers can learn from bringing documentary-style storytelling into their marketing and the legacy Martha Stewart built. We’re talking about how to build an authentic brand, own your unique style, and stay top of mind for decades.</p><p>Because let’s be real: who wouldn’t want their brand to have Martha Stewart-level resilience?</p><p><strong>About our guest, Amy Holtzman</strong></p><p>Amy Holtzman is Chief Marketing Officer at CHEQ. Amy brings 20 years of marketing experience to CHEQ, including tenure as CMO and head of marketing at Spring Health, AlphaSense, and Splash. She is also a founding member of Chief, a private network that connects and supports female leaders, and co-founder of NYC-based Women in Revenue Marketing.  </p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Martha</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Resilience builds a legacy</strong>. Martha Stewart’s documentary doesn’t shy away from the tough moments, and that’s part of what makes her story so powerful. In business, as in life, setbacks are inevitable. Amy Holtzman puts it simply: “You gotta show up the next day… roll with the punches and figure out how you get through it.” Resilience and conviction aren’t just admirable traits,  they’re essential for building a brand that lasts for decades.</li><li><strong>Own your style</strong>. Martha’s perfectionism is part of her brand. She’s unapologetically herself, and it’s helped her stand out for decades. Amy encourages marketers to take a page from that approach. She explains, “ Martha's an unapologetic perfectionist… Martha owns it, and it's what made her successful. And I think you have to not necessarily own Martha's style, but you have to own your own style.” In B2B marketing, embracing your quirks and leaning into what makes you different is more powerful than playing it safe.</li><li><strong>Build trust through authenticity</strong>. Martha’s documentary reminds us that connection comes from honesty. Her brand works because it’s consistent and deeply personal. Amy says the same holds true in marketing, “As humans, we crave connection…I  think people shy away from it and B2B a lot of times because they're worried… I think that's what we want. And we can also kind of sniff bulls*** a mile away.” Don’t hide behind jargon or trends. The more human your brand feels, the more trust you’ll build.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“  You're gonna get knocked down…But you gotta show up the next day. You have to kind of do it all in stride. If you wanna make it right and make a name for yourself and for your business, you have to just like roll with the punches and figure out how you get through it.”</p><p>*“ You gotta own what makes you special and unique, right? Martha's an unapologetic perfectionist. She insists on things being her way. A lot of times like women can get negative feedback about that and Martha owns it, and it's what made her successful. And I think you have to not necessarily own Martha's style, but you have to own your own style. It's hard to change. You can adapt in certain situations, but you're not gonna change who you are. And I do think you've gotta own it. You gotta own your own unique style. And sometimes that's not what everybody loves, but it's also what makes you and also your brand special and unique.”</p><p>*“ I feel like as humans we crave connection and look for commonalities, right? And I think people shy away from it, and B2B a lot of times, because they're worried. What if somebody doesn't like that thing or doesn't have the same values that I have? We need to think about what those things are that we share, but also, there's room to be ourselves and be authentic, like Martha, a bit more too. Because, as humans, I think that's what we want, right? And we can also kind of sniff bullsh** a mile away, right? When somebody's not who they say they are. So I think there's room for a bit more.”</p><p>*“ I know we're probably all sick of like everything AI, but I actually think it's incredibly important to stay really up to speed and think about it beyond productivity.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Amy Holtzman, Chief Marketing Officer at CHEQ</p><p>[02:07] Why <i>Martha</i>, the Martha Stewart Documentary</p><p>[02:40] The Role of CMO at CHEQ</p><p>[05:09] Breaking Down <i>Martha</i></p><p>[14:22] B2B Marketing Takeaways from <i>Martha</i></p><p>[19:57] The Importance of Authentic Storytelling</p><p>[25:27] Why You Should Be Documenting Brand Moments</p><p>[32:36] CHEQ's Marketing Strategy</p><p>[36:14] The Power in Reinventing and Not Replicating</p><p>[42:22] The Future of AI in Marketing</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/aholtzman/">Connect with Amy on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://cheq.ai/">Learn more about CHEQ</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>At 83 years old, Martha Stewart is still as relevant as ever, and she just released a new documentary to prove it. Martha takes us through the highs, lows, and reinventions of her iconic career.

In this episode, we’re diving into the world of Martha and the power of documentaries with our special guest, Amy Holtzman, Chief Marketing Officer at CHEQ. Together, we’re exploring what B2B marketers can learn from bringing documentary-style storytelling into their marketing and the legacy Martha Stewart built. We’re talking about how to build an authentic brand, own your unique style, and stay top of mind for decades.

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In this episode, we’re diving into the world of Martha and the power of documentaries with our special guest, Amy Holtzman, Chief Marketing Officer at CHEQ. Together, we’re exploring what B2B marketers can learn from bringing documentary-style storytelling into their marketing and the legacy Martha Stewart built. We’re talking about how to build an authentic brand, own your unique style, and stay top of mind for decades.

Because let’s be real: who wouldn’t want their brand to have Martha Stewart-level resilience?</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Playing it safe doesn’t cut it anymore. If you want to grab eyeballs, you need to be bold, unexpected, maybe even a little chaotic.</p><p>That’s the magic of <i>Taskmaster</i>, a competition show where thinking sideways often beats playing it straight. And in this episode, we’re taking a page from its playbook with the help of our special guest, Vanessa Hope Schneider, Head of Brand at Descript.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from chaos, creativity, and knowing when to follow the rules (and when to completely ignore them).</p><p><strong>About our guest, Vanessa Hope Schneider</strong></p><p>Vanessa Hope Schneider is Head of Brand at Descript. There, she leads brand, content, product marketing and community. Her focus is growing the community of creators and communicators using Descript to make videos and podcasts. She’s working to drive engagement and success through feature announcements and community education, and is developing campaigns that illustrate Descript’s perspective on creative work, and the role AI should have in it.</p><p>Vanessa has previously served as Director of Host Community at Airbnb, Head of Marketing at Clara Labs, and VP of Marketing at One Medical.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Taskmaster</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Think laterally.</strong> Lateral thinking is about solving problems creatively rather than relying on the most direct or traditional approach. Vanessa encourages marketers to lean into that mindset: “Sometimes your goal is most efficiently achieved by just doing the best practice... but other times you need to break out in your approach.” In B2B marketing, that might mean reimagining how you run events, pitch your product, or tell a story. It’s not about copying what others are doing, but finding the unexpected angle. Like in <i>Taskmaster</i>, the real wins often come from knowing when to be efficient and direct, and when to be bold, playful, or completely off-script.</li><li><strong>Know when you're the picture and when you're the frame</strong>. Sometimes your brand should be the star of the show. Other times, you should be supporting someone else’s spotlight moment. Vanessa explains, “It doesn’t always have to be your brand. It shouldn't always be your brand. Sometimes it's the voices of your customers. It's their success stories.” In the same way, <i>Taskmaster</i> contestants might earn points by hyping up the host, marketers should recognize when to uplift others for the bigger win.</li><li><strong>Develop your signature style</strong>. In <i>Taskmaster</i>, contestants approach identical tasks in wildly different ways, and that's the fun of it. Over time, you start to recognize their unique flair. The same is true for brands. Vanessa says, “It is valuable and compelling to find your style and stick to it, and then approach each new challenge from that perspective.” A strong, consistent style becomes part of your brand identity and how your audience remembers you.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“ One of the keys to success on <i>Taskmaster</i> and when making content is committing to the bit. If you're self-conscious, if you're mugging for the camera, if you're trying to do too many things at once, if you're distracted, the audience isn't gonna go there with you. Your readership isn't gonna go there with you, your customers aren't gonna go there with you. You have to summon the will, the courage, the focus to go all in, and that's when exciting things are gonna happen. And you might be able to find different types of creativity because you're blocking all that other distraction out.”</p><p>*” B2B marketers should enjoy lateral thinking. So, sometimes your goal is most efficiently achieved by just doing the best practice, doing it well, and task faster. That would be reading the task and just doing what the task tells you to do. But other times, you need to break out in your approach. You need to be more iconoclastic or more unexpected. You're not gonna win <i>Taskmaster</i> or marketing if you're only doing one or the other. You have to know when to be literal and direct and when to think in new directions. Sometimes you're gonna get the most points if you just speed run the task, but other times you're gonna get points for creativity.”</p><p>*“ There are instances when you are, as a contestant on <i>Taskmaster</i>, absolutely the star of the show, and you wanna be boisterous and you wanna be attention-grabbing. And of course, we as marketers all can think of instances where we wanna do that with our brand, but in other instances. You kind of wanna be a supporting character. So in <i>Taskmaster</i>, sometimes the best thing to do is make it about Greg because he's a <i>taskmaster</i> and he is very ego-driven…And so the analog for marketers would be. Who are you uplifting in your work? It doesn't always have to be your brand. It shouldn't always be your brand. Sometimes it's the voices of your customers. It's their success stories, so find opportunities to do both.”</p><p>*“ Your style is your brand…It is valuable and compelling to find your style and stick to it, and then approach each new challenge from that perspective.”</p><p>*“ The challenge of making content about content is knowing when should I be specific and speak directly to those priority audiences and their priority use cases? And when should I pop up a level and speak in a more generalized way about capabilities and benefits, and trust that the audience will know how that applies to the specific thing they're trying to make?”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Vanessa Hope Schneider, Head of Brand at Descript</p><p>[03:38] Why <i>Taskmaster</i>?</p><p>[04:47] The Role of Head of Brand at Descript</p><p>[07:09] Empowering Creatives With Descript's Tools</p><p>[08:15] Descript's Company-Wide Film Fests</p><p>[09:21] The Origins of <i>Taskmaster</i></p><p>[16:43] Understanding <i>Taskmaster's</i> Production Value</p><p>[21:37] B2B Marketing Takeaways from <i>Taskmaster</i></p><p>[32:31] Importance of Investing in Content</p><p>[41:31] Importance of Video in Modern Marketing</p><p>[48:27] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/vanessahopeschneider/">Connect with Vanessa on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.descript.com/">Learn more about Descript</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Meredith Gooderham, Ian Faison, Vanessa Hope Schneider)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Playing it safe doesn’t cut it anymore. If you want to grab eyeballs, you need to be bold, unexpected, maybe even a little chaotic.</p><p>That’s the magic of <i>Taskmaster</i>, a competition show where thinking sideways often beats playing it straight. And in this episode, we’re taking a page from its playbook with the help of our special guest, Vanessa Hope Schneider, Head of Brand at Descript.</p><p>Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from chaos, creativity, and knowing when to follow the rules (and when to completely ignore them).</p><p><strong>About our guest, Vanessa Hope Schneider</strong></p><p>Vanessa Hope Schneider is Head of Brand at Descript. There, she leads brand, content, product marketing and community. Her focus is growing the community of creators and communicators using Descript to make videos and podcasts. She’s working to drive engagement and success through feature announcements and community education, and is developing campaigns that illustrate Descript’s perspective on creative work, and the role AI should have in it.</p><p>Vanessa has previously served as Director of Host Community at Airbnb, Head of Marketing at Clara Labs, and VP of Marketing at One Medical.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Taskmaster</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Think laterally.</strong> Lateral thinking is about solving problems creatively rather than relying on the most direct or traditional approach. Vanessa encourages marketers to lean into that mindset: “Sometimes your goal is most efficiently achieved by just doing the best practice... but other times you need to break out in your approach.” In B2B marketing, that might mean reimagining how you run events, pitch your product, or tell a story. It’s not about copying what others are doing, but finding the unexpected angle. Like in <i>Taskmaster</i>, the real wins often come from knowing when to be efficient and direct, and when to be bold, playful, or completely off-script.</li><li><strong>Know when you're the picture and when you're the frame</strong>. Sometimes your brand should be the star of the show. Other times, you should be supporting someone else’s spotlight moment. Vanessa explains, “It doesn’t always have to be your brand. It shouldn't always be your brand. Sometimes it's the voices of your customers. It's their success stories.” In the same way, <i>Taskmaster</i> contestants might earn points by hyping up the host, marketers should recognize when to uplift others for the bigger win.</li><li><strong>Develop your signature style</strong>. In <i>Taskmaster</i>, contestants approach identical tasks in wildly different ways, and that's the fun of it. Over time, you start to recognize their unique flair. The same is true for brands. Vanessa says, “It is valuable and compelling to find your style and stick to it, and then approach each new challenge from that perspective.” A strong, consistent style becomes part of your brand identity and how your audience remembers you.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“ One of the keys to success on <i>Taskmaster</i> and when making content is committing to the bit. If you're self-conscious, if you're mugging for the camera, if you're trying to do too many things at once, if you're distracted, the audience isn't gonna go there with you. Your readership isn't gonna go there with you, your customers aren't gonna go there with you. You have to summon the will, the courage, the focus to go all in, and that's when exciting things are gonna happen. And you might be able to find different types of creativity because you're blocking all that other distraction out.”</p><p>*” B2B marketers should enjoy lateral thinking. So, sometimes your goal is most efficiently achieved by just doing the best practice, doing it well, and task faster. That would be reading the task and just doing what the task tells you to do. But other times, you need to break out in your approach. You need to be more iconoclastic or more unexpected. You're not gonna win <i>Taskmaster</i> or marketing if you're only doing one or the other. You have to know when to be literal and direct and when to think in new directions. Sometimes you're gonna get the most points if you just speed run the task, but other times you're gonna get points for creativity.”</p><p>*“ There are instances when you are, as a contestant on <i>Taskmaster</i>, absolutely the star of the show, and you wanna be boisterous and you wanna be attention-grabbing. And of course, we as marketers all can think of instances where we wanna do that with our brand, but in other instances. You kind of wanna be a supporting character. So in <i>Taskmaster</i>, sometimes the best thing to do is make it about Greg because he's a <i>taskmaster</i> and he is very ego-driven…And so the analog for marketers would be. Who are you uplifting in your work? It doesn't always have to be your brand. It shouldn't always be your brand. Sometimes it's the voices of your customers. It's their success stories, so find opportunities to do both.”</p><p>*“ Your style is your brand…It is valuable and compelling to find your style and stick to it, and then approach each new challenge from that perspective.”</p><p>*“ The challenge of making content about content is knowing when should I be specific and speak directly to those priority audiences and their priority use cases? And when should I pop up a level and speak in a more generalized way about capabilities and benefits, and trust that the audience will know how that applies to the specific thing they're trying to make?”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Vanessa Hope Schneider, Head of Brand at Descript</p><p>[03:38] Why <i>Taskmaster</i>?</p><p>[04:47] The Role of Head of Brand at Descript</p><p>[07:09] Empowering Creatives With Descript's Tools</p><p>[08:15] Descript's Company-Wide Film Fests</p><p>[09:21] The Origins of <i>Taskmaster</i></p><p>[16:43] Understanding <i>Taskmaster's</i> Production Value</p><p>[21:37] B2B Marketing Takeaways from <i>Taskmaster</i></p><p>[32:31] Importance of Investing in Content</p><p>[41:31] Importance of Video in Modern Marketing</p><p>[48:27] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/vanessahopeschneider/">Connect with Vanessa on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.descript.com/">Learn more about Descript</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>Playing it safe doesn’t cut it anymore. If you want to grab eyeballs, you need to be bold, unexpected, maybe even a little chaotic.

That’s the magic of Taskmaster, a competition show where thinking sideways often beats playing it straight. And in this episode, we’re taking a page from its playbook with the help of our special guest, Vanessa Hope Schneider, Head of Brand at Descript.

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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Simon Sinek says that a lot of organizations can talk about what they do and how they do it. But he says, “Very few organizations know why they do what they do.” </p><p>And it’s the ‘why’ that is the most important. </p><p>In this episode, we’re taking this lesson and more from Simon Sinek with the help of our special guest, Guru Sundar.</p><p>Together, we talk about finding your ‘why’, looking for inspiration in unexpected places, and timing your content so it feels fresh. </p><p><strong>About our guest, Guru Sundar</strong></p><p>Guru Sundar is VP of Marketing at Abridge, a leader in generative AI for healthcare. Guru has been with the company since September 2023. He previously served as VP of Marketing at Looking Glass Factory and Butterfly Network. Guru holds a BS in Electrical and Computer Engineering from Cornell University and an MSc in Biomedical Engineering at the University of Southern California.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Simon Sinek:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Find your ‘why’.</strong> Figure out the reason your work is important and use that in your content. Guru says, ”Every company should have a ‘why’ that's rooted in a large problem. And it may be broken into a subset of problems that you tackle over time, but like really focus on that ‘why.’”</li><li><strong>Look for inspiration in unusual places.</strong> Inspiration for your content can come from unexpected places. Guru says, ”Drawing inspiration from outside is culturally ingrained in how we do what we do at Abridge, because if you look at who's next to you, you're not going to innovate. But if you look way far out and break down like, ‘Oh, that brand or that person is having similar challenges, but they're making t-shirts, but I can draw some inspiration from them,’ or like ‘That person over there is making music, or they're making some form of art that no one's ever seen before.’”</li><li><strong>Time your delivery so content stays fresh.</strong> Finesse is everything when delivering content to your audience. Guru says, ”No one likes fatigue. And so you have to keep fatigue, freshness, innovation in mind as you're generating these pieces of content. You could have like four or five different content streams. And people need to hear things multiple times, but they don't need to hear it seven times in a row. A lot of the content is developing the right things for your audience that are innately interesting. If you just ask someone, ‘Hey, is this interesting? Is this useful?’ They say yes. But then serving it at the right frequency, at the right time, in the right form factor and package, is what I think differentiates okay marketers from incredible marketers.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Drawing inspiration from outside is culturally ingrained in how we do what we do at Abridge, because if you look at who's next to you, you're not going to innovate. But if you look way far out and break down like, ‘Oh, that brand or that person is having similar challenges, but they're making t-shirts, but I can draw some inspiration from them,’ or like ‘That person over there is making music, or they're making some form of art that no one's ever seen before.’”</p><p>*”Every company should have a ‘why’ that's rooted in a large problem. And it may be broken into a subset of problems that you tackle over time, but like really focus on that ‘why.’”</p><p>*”You can break marketing down into two mainstreams. It's like  amazing content that resonates with your audience, you know, your buyer, your end user, and then you have to serve it on all the right channels with the right frequency, usage, et cetera, like cut it up the right way. But content is everything. So it's like, what is it that's going to inspire your buyers? What is it that's going to inspire your end users? And it's keeping it provocative.”</p><p>*”No one likes fatigue. And so you have to keep fatigue, freshness, innovation in mind as you're generating these pieces of content. You could have like four or five different content streams. And people need to hear things multiple times, but they don't need to hear it seven times in a row. A lot of the content is developing the right things for your audience that are innately interesting. If you just ask someone, ‘Hey, is this interesting? Is this useful?’ They say yes. But then serving it at the right frequency, at the right time, in the right form factor and package, is what I think differentiates okay marketers from incredible marketers.”</p><p>*”If I was to give advice to others, like, really understand your personas, and make sure you know what they need and do it in the most authentic way. If you don't believe in the content, don't serve the content.  And I think a lot of people in marketing just check the box. ‘We need to do emails. We need to do ads. We need to do a white paper,’ but like, why are you doing it? And then assess like, ‘Did this work? Did this not work?’ And use that as impetus to drive the next thing. But you have to really believe in your content. And I think a lot of people are very tactical and that's where I think it falls flat.“</p><p>*”The way we operate at Abridge is like you almost have this mentality that this is the last time you're ever gonna create a piece of content. So make it last, make it meaningful.  At some point, you gotta pull back and appreciate everything you've done. Take stock of it. But in the moment, like, don't look back. Don't look too far forward. Focus on today and crush it. And when you think about content that way, it's like, ‘I'm going to really focus on this piece of content. I don't really care what we've done in the past. I don't care what we're going to do in the future. I want to make this count.’”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Guru Sundar, VP of Marketing at Abridge</p><p>[1:53] Guru Sundar's Journey into Marketing</p><p>[4:31] The Role and Vision at Abridge</p><p>[7:35] The Importance of Brand and Inspiration</p><p>[16:37] Simon Sinek's Golden Circle</p><p>[19:29] Personal Mission and Healthcare Innovation</p><p>[23:25] The Impact of Transparency in Healthcare</p><p>[25:20] AI and Deeper Understanding in Healthcare</p><p>[25:46] The Importance of Patient History</p><p>[27:53] Marketing and Storytelling in Healthcare</p><p>[31:41] Challenges in B2B Healthcare Marketing</p><p>[33:09] Clinician and Patient-Centric Solutions</p><p>[43:12] The Role of Content in Marketing</p><p>[50:34] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/guru-sundar-7a04b85/">Connect with Guru on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4ZoJKF_VuA">Learn more about Simon Sinek and “Starting with Why”</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon Sinek says that a lot of organizations can talk about what they do and how they do it. But he says, “Very few organizations know why they do what they do.” </p><p>And it’s the ‘why’ that is the most important. </p><p>In this episode, we’re taking this lesson and more from Simon Sinek with the help of our special guest, Guru Sundar.</p><p>Together, we talk about finding your ‘why’, looking for inspiration in unexpected places, and timing your content so it feels fresh. </p><p><strong>About our guest, Guru Sundar</strong></p><p>Guru Sundar is VP of Marketing at Abridge, a leader in generative AI for healthcare. Guru has been with the company since September 2023. He previously served as VP of Marketing at Looking Glass Factory and Butterfly Network. Guru holds a BS in Electrical and Computer Engineering from Cornell University and an MSc in Biomedical Engineering at the University of Southern California.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Simon Sinek:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Find your ‘why’.</strong> Figure out the reason your work is important and use that in your content. Guru says, ”Every company should have a ‘why’ that's rooted in a large problem. And it may be broken into a subset of problems that you tackle over time, but like really focus on that ‘why.’”</li><li><strong>Look for inspiration in unusual places.</strong> Inspiration for your content can come from unexpected places. Guru says, ”Drawing inspiration from outside is culturally ingrained in how we do what we do at Abridge, because if you look at who's next to you, you're not going to innovate. But if you look way far out and break down like, ‘Oh, that brand or that person is having similar challenges, but they're making t-shirts, but I can draw some inspiration from them,’ or like ‘That person over there is making music, or they're making some form of art that no one's ever seen before.’”</li><li><strong>Time your delivery so content stays fresh.</strong> Finesse is everything when delivering content to your audience. Guru says, ”No one likes fatigue. And so you have to keep fatigue, freshness, innovation in mind as you're generating these pieces of content. You could have like four or five different content streams. And people need to hear things multiple times, but they don't need to hear it seven times in a row. A lot of the content is developing the right things for your audience that are innately interesting. If you just ask someone, ‘Hey, is this interesting? Is this useful?’ They say yes. 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But then serving it at the right frequency, at the right time, in the right form factor and package, is what I think differentiates okay marketers from incredible marketers.”</p><p>*”If I was to give advice to others, like, really understand your personas, and make sure you know what they need and do it in the most authentic way. If you don't believe in the content, don't serve the content.  And I think a lot of people in marketing just check the box. ‘We need to do emails. We need to do ads. We need to do a white paper,’ but like, why are you doing it? And then assess like, ‘Did this work? Did this not work?’ And use that as impetus to drive the next thing. But you have to really believe in your content. And I think a lot of people are very tactical and that's where I think it falls flat.“</p><p>*”The way we operate at Abridge is like you almost have this mentality that this is the last time you're ever gonna create a piece of content. So make it last, make it meaningful.  At some point, you gotta pull back and appreciate everything you've done. Take stock of it. But in the moment, like, don't look back. Don't look too far forward. Focus on today and crush it. And when you think about content that way, it's like, ‘I'm going to really focus on this piece of content. I don't really care what we've done in the past. I don't care what we're going to do in the future. I want to make this count.’”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Guru Sundar, VP of Marketing at Abridge</p><p>[1:53] Guru Sundar's Journey into Marketing</p><p>[4:31] The Role and Vision at Abridge</p><p>[7:35] The Importance of Brand and Inspiration</p><p>[16:37] Simon Sinek's Golden Circle</p><p>[19:29] Personal Mission and Healthcare Innovation</p><p>[23:25] The Impact of Transparency in Healthcare</p><p>[25:20] AI and Deeper Understanding in Healthcare</p><p>[25:46] The Importance of Patient History</p><p>[27:53] Marketing and Storytelling in Healthcare</p><p>[31:41] Challenges in B2B Healthcare Marketing</p><p>[33:09] Clinician and Patient-Centric Solutions</p><p>[43:12] The Role of Content in Marketing</p><p>[50:34] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/guru-sundar-7a04b85/">Connect with Guru on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4ZoJKF_VuA">Learn more about Simon Sinek and “Starting with Why”</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. 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And it’s the ‘why’ that is the most important. 

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      <description><![CDATA[<p>AI is changing so much about how we create content. </p><p>So we thought we’d bring in the founders of a brand new tool for making rich, interactive 3D content using AI.</p><p>We’re talking with Co-Founders Charles Migos and Bharat Vasan.</p><p>And together, we talk about how to make the most out of AI tools, including mocking up ideas, iterating quickly and taking risks.</p><p><strong>About our guests, Charles Migos and Bharat Vasan</strong></p><p>Charles Migos is Co-Founder & CEO at Intangible. He has over 30 years of experience in the tech industry, specializing in UX and product design. He has previously worked for Microsoft and Apple. Prior to Intangible, Charles served as VP of Product Design at Unity Technologies, where he established a core design practice, principles and philosophy. He also founded a centralized design organization and drove double-digit NPS, CSAT, engagement KPIs and revenue improvement across their portfolio with product design efforts.</p><p>Bharat Vasan is an experienced investor, executive and board member with 15+ years of leadership in technology. He has a strong track record as a founder and operator in multiple sectors:</p><p>• Connected Sensors & Devices</p><p>• Consumer Software and Media</p><p>• Healthcare, Fitness & Wellness</p><p>• IoT Sensors / Smart Home</p><p>Bharat is currently a founder of Intangible.ai, which uses AI to build the world's simplest 3D storytelling tool for creators in games, film, web and XR.</p><p>Prior to Intangible, Bharat was an investment partner at The Production Board, a $450M venture capital fund, where he built on his experience as an angel investor with a deep network of founders. He helped invest in and create value at businesses ranging from foundry/seed, all the way to growth/IPO. As COO for fund, he also helped the firm fundraise and navigate market cycles in 3 of the most volatile years in venture capital.</p><p>Bharat also has a strong track record as a P&L operator for growth and early-stage companies, having led his businesses through multiple rounds of financing and acquisitions. Bharat has raised over $500m for his companies, with multiple exits (founded BASIS Science, acq. by Intel; President August Home, acq. by Assa Abloy; CEO of PAX Labs, achieved unicorn status).</p><p>Bharat is an active public speaker and Board member for venture-backed startups, and nonprofits.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Intangible.ai:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Mock up ideas. </strong>You can make effective prototypes of a content idea with AI. It lets you get your idea across without having to invest a lot of time or money in a first draft. Charles says, “A storyboard is probably the most important artifact in the process after the script itself. Why? Because it is very low fidelity, but there is very high bandwidth in what it communicates. So like, I as the cinematographer, the director, the set designer, the costume designer, the visual effects supervisor, whomever, looks at A 2D sketch and understands exactly what it means for them creatively. So that idea that you can work from very low or coarse levels of detail, but get to very high levels of detail over time in the way that the process requires is super important. And is as enabling for those film creators or game creators as it will be for these other use cases we hope to activate around live event and architecture, urban design, live event productions and theater and all of that good stuff.”</li><li><strong>Iterate quickly.</strong> Something not quite right with the first version? Iterate quickly using AI. It can even give you multiple drafts or versions of the same idea. Bharat says, ” If you're trying to do a Pixar movie or a documentary, or you're trying to make an interactive game, that's the stuff that feels harder. And it feels like AI can simplify some of that. I can give you a first draft, I can give you a second draft, and I can do it in real time.” </li><li><strong>Take risks.</strong> Because you’re not having to spend too much time or money mocking up your ideas with AI, it allows you to take some risks. Get really wild and see how far your ideas can take you. Bharat says, ”One thing that's happened to businesses because budgets have gotten so big, everyone's super risk averse, so you get more lookalike content. And one reason you don't see great content on channels like we used to, or the box offices, because, you know, when your budget is that large, you can't afford to take a lot of creative risks.  So one reason we started the company where we are is if we can make that beginning process easy, if it's easier for Netflix to review more pitches, if it's easier for them to get a better scent, maybe they start taking more diverse bets.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*” When we found ourselves in this moment around generative AI, I knew that the time had come. Like we could apply generative AI in a way that was designed for creatives to do their best work ever. And I'm an ardent believer that creativity is a team sport.” - Charles Migos</p><p>*” There's a lot of anxiety about, is AI gonna take over jobs? What is it gonna do to the creative industry? I see it slightly differently. I see it as a way to revert back to the original joy.” - Bharat Vasan</p><p>*” Those people who feel somewhat threatened by the technological advance, we want to re-weaponize them so that they have more tools and skills that they can employ in different ways to ensure that bright, creative minds are in charge of the content that we enjoy as lovers of the space and consumers of that content.” - Charles Migos</p><p>*” If you're trying to do a Pixar movie or a documentary, or you're trying to make an interactive game, that's the stuff that feels harder. And it feels like AI can simplify some of that. I can give you a first draft, I can give you a second draft, and I can do it in real time. But the agency that people feel when they're able to do that in real time is really, really powerful. And they share that with other people, other people give them feedback. At least when I build stuff, that gives me energy. I made something as a kid, you know, with my little Lego bricks. I shared it with my friends. They go, ‘That's really cool.’ They want to build it with me. That's the fun part about being in this business.” - Bharat Vasan</p><p>*”Now that AI has come along, we feel like that's the last unconquered thing. You can set up a 3D set, you can figure out how to film it before you spend a dollar on production. And then people know what it looks like, feels like, when you're pitching that to a client, to a movie studio, they get a sense of what that's like as well. And so everyone gets more confidence on the creative project before going into production. And one of the things that's broken about the business is everyone has to place that bet in millions and millions of dollars without knowing what's going to come out of it at the end of the day. And often it might not even be a storyboard, it might just be a script or a blurb. And then you're just hoping and praying that someone's going to do something good with it.” - Bharat Vasan</p><p>*”A storyboard is probably the most important artifact in the process after the script itself. Why? Because it is very low fidelity, but there is very high bandwidth in what it communicates. So like, I as the cinematographer, the director, the set designer, the costume designer, the visual effects supervisor, whomever, looks at A 2D sketch and understands exactly what it means for them creatively. So that idea that you can work from very low or coarse levels of detail, but get to very high levels of detail over time in the way that the process requires is super important. And is as enabling for those film creators or game creators as it will be for these other use cases we hope to activate around live event and architecture, urban design, live event productions and theater and all of that good stuff.” - Charles Migos</p><p>*”One thing that's happened to businesses because budgets have gotten so big, everyone's super risk averse, so you get more lookalike content. And one reason you don't see great content on channels like we used to, or the box offices, because, you know, when your budget is that large, you can't afford to take a lot of creative risks.  So one reason we started the company where we are is if we can make that beginning process easy, if it's easier for Netflix to review more pitches, if it's easier for them to get a better scent, maybe they start taking more diverse bets.” - Bharat Vasan</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Intangible.ai Co-founders Charles Migos and Bharat Vasan</p><p>[01:34] Charles' Early Inspirations</p><p>[03:26] Bharat’s Journey and Inspirations</p><p>[04:26] Founding Intangible AI</p><p>[04:30] The Vision Behind Intangible AI</p><p>[05:59] Challenges in the Creative Industry</p><p>[09:38] The Role of AI in Creativity</p><p>[20:42] User Experience and Design Thinking</p><p>[26:01] The Complexity and Fear of AI in Creativity</p><p>[27:53] Supporting Creative Intent with AI</p><p>[29:06] Generative AI and the Future of Content Creation</p><p>[30:33] Revolutionizing B2B Marketing with AI</p><p>[36:07] The Role of Taste in Creative AI Tools</p><p>[42:14] Simplifying the Creative Process</p><p>[46:44] Empowering Original Ideas and Risk-Taking</p><p>[51:19] Final Thoughts and Closing Remarks</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/bvasan/">Bharat</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlesmigos/">Charles</a> on LinkedIn</p><p><a href="http://intangible.ai/">Learn more about Intangible.ai</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Bharat Vasan, Charles Migos, Meredith Gooderham, Ian Faison)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AI is changing so much about how we create content. </p><p>So we thought we’d bring in the founders of a brand new tool for making rich, interactive 3D content using AI.</p><p>We’re talking with Co-Founders Charles Migos and Bharat Vasan.</p><p>And together, we talk about how to make the most out of AI tools, including mocking up ideas, iterating quickly and taking risks.</p><p><strong>About our guests, Charles Migos and Bharat Vasan</strong></p><p>Charles Migos is Co-Founder & CEO at Intangible. He has over 30 years of experience in the tech industry, specializing in UX and product design. He has previously worked for Microsoft and Apple. Prior to Intangible, Charles served as VP of Product Design at Unity Technologies, where he established a core design practice, principles and philosophy. He also founded a centralized design organization and drove double-digit NPS, CSAT, engagement KPIs and revenue improvement across their portfolio with product design efforts.</p><p>Bharat Vasan is an experienced investor, executive and board member with 15+ years of leadership in technology. He has a strong track record as a founder and operator in multiple sectors:</p><p>• Connected Sensors & Devices</p><p>• Consumer Software and Media</p><p>• Healthcare, Fitness & Wellness</p><p>• IoT Sensors / Smart Home</p><p>Bharat is currently a founder of Intangible.ai, which uses AI to build the world's simplest 3D storytelling tool for creators in games, film, web and XR.</p><p>Prior to Intangible, Bharat was an investment partner at The Production Board, a $450M venture capital fund, where he built on his experience as an angel investor with a deep network of founders. He helped invest in and create value at businesses ranging from foundry/seed, all the way to growth/IPO. As COO for fund, he also helped the firm fundraise and navigate market cycles in 3 of the most volatile years in venture capital.</p><p>Bharat also has a strong track record as a P&L operator for growth and early-stage companies, having led his businesses through multiple rounds of financing and acquisitions. Bharat has raised over $500m for his companies, with multiple exits (founded BASIS Science, acq. by Intel; President August Home, acq. by Assa Abloy; CEO of PAX Labs, achieved unicorn status).</p><p>Bharat is an active public speaker and Board member for venture-backed startups, and nonprofits.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Intangible.ai:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Mock up ideas. </strong>You can make effective prototypes of a content idea with AI. It lets you get your idea across without having to invest a lot of time or money in a first draft. Charles says, “A storyboard is probably the most important artifact in the process after the script itself. Why? Because it is very low fidelity, but there is very high bandwidth in what it communicates. So like, I as the cinematographer, the director, the set designer, the costume designer, the visual effects supervisor, whomever, looks at A 2D sketch and understands exactly what it means for them creatively. So that idea that you can work from very low or coarse levels of detail, but get to very high levels of detail over time in the way that the process requires is super important. And is as enabling for those film creators or game creators as it will be for these other use cases we hope to activate around live event and architecture, urban design, live event productions and theater and all of that good stuff.”</li><li><strong>Iterate quickly.</strong> Something not quite right with the first version? Iterate quickly using AI. It can even give you multiple drafts or versions of the same idea. Bharat says, ” If you're trying to do a Pixar movie or a documentary, or you're trying to make an interactive game, that's the stuff that feels harder. And it feels like AI can simplify some of that. I can give you a first draft, I can give you a second draft, and I can do it in real time.” </li><li><strong>Take risks.</strong> Because you’re not having to spend too much time or money mocking up your ideas with AI, it allows you to take some risks. Get really wild and see how far your ideas can take you. Bharat says, ”One thing that's happened to businesses because budgets have gotten so big, everyone's super risk averse, so you get more lookalike content. And one reason you don't see great content on channels like we used to, or the box offices, because, you know, when your budget is that large, you can't afford to take a lot of creative risks.  So one reason we started the company where we are is if we can make that beginning process easy, if it's easier for Netflix to review more pitches, if it's easier for them to get a better scent, maybe they start taking more diverse bets.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*” When we found ourselves in this moment around generative AI, I knew that the time had come. Like we could apply generative AI in a way that was designed for creatives to do their best work ever. And I'm an ardent believer that creativity is a team sport.” - Charles Migos</p><p>*” There's a lot of anxiety about, is AI gonna take over jobs? What is it gonna do to the creative industry? I see it slightly differently. I see it as a way to revert back to the original joy.” - Bharat Vasan</p><p>*” Those people who feel somewhat threatened by the technological advance, we want to re-weaponize them so that they have more tools and skills that they can employ in different ways to ensure that bright, creative minds are in charge of the content that we enjoy as lovers of the space and consumers of that content.” - Charles Migos</p><p>*” If you're trying to do a Pixar movie or a documentary, or you're trying to make an interactive game, that's the stuff that feels harder. And it feels like AI can simplify some of that. I can give you a first draft, I can give you a second draft, and I can do it in real time. But the agency that people feel when they're able to do that in real time is really, really powerful. And they share that with other people, other people give them feedback. At least when I build stuff, that gives me energy. I made something as a kid, you know, with my little Lego bricks. I shared it with my friends. They go, ‘That's really cool.’ They want to build it with me. That's the fun part about being in this business.” - Bharat Vasan</p><p>*”Now that AI has come along, we feel like that's the last unconquered thing. You can set up a 3D set, you can figure out how to film it before you spend a dollar on production. And then people know what it looks like, feels like, when you're pitching that to a client, to a movie studio, they get a sense of what that's like as well. And so everyone gets more confidence on the creative project before going into production. And one of the things that's broken about the business is everyone has to place that bet in millions and millions of dollars without knowing what's going to come out of it at the end of the day. And often it might not even be a storyboard, it might just be a script or a blurb. And then you're just hoping and praying that someone's going to do something good with it.” - Bharat Vasan</p><p>*”A storyboard is probably the most important artifact in the process after the script itself. Why? Because it is very low fidelity, but there is very high bandwidth in what it communicates. So like, I as the cinematographer, the director, the set designer, the costume designer, the visual effects supervisor, whomever, looks at A 2D sketch and understands exactly what it means for them creatively. So that idea that you can work from very low or coarse levels of detail, but get to very high levels of detail over time in the way that the process requires is super important. And is as enabling for those film creators or game creators as it will be for these other use cases we hope to activate around live event and architecture, urban design, live event productions and theater and all of that good stuff.” - Charles Migos</p><p>*”One thing that's happened to businesses because budgets have gotten so big, everyone's super risk averse, so you get more lookalike content. And one reason you don't see great content on channels like we used to, or the box offices, because, you know, when your budget is that large, you can't afford to take a lot of creative risks.  So one reason we started the company where we are is if we can make that beginning process easy, if it's easier for Netflix to review more pitches, if it's easier for them to get a better scent, maybe they start taking more diverse bets.” - Bharat Vasan</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Intangible.ai Co-founders Charles Migos and Bharat Vasan</p><p>[01:34] Charles' Early Inspirations</p><p>[03:26] Bharat’s Journey and Inspirations</p><p>[04:26] Founding Intangible AI</p><p>[04:30] The Vision Behind Intangible AI</p><p>[05:59] Challenges in the Creative Industry</p><p>[09:38] The Role of AI in Creativity</p><p>[20:42] User Experience and Design Thinking</p><p>[26:01] The Complexity and Fear of AI in Creativity</p><p>[27:53] Supporting Creative Intent with AI</p><p>[29:06] Generative AI and the Future of Content Creation</p><p>[30:33] Revolutionizing B2B Marketing with AI</p><p>[36:07] The Role of Taste in Creative AI Tools</p><p>[42:14] Simplifying the Creative Process</p><p>[46:44] Empowering Original Ideas and Risk-Taking</p><p>[51:19] Final Thoughts and Closing Remarks</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/bvasan/">Bharat</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlesmigos/">Charles</a> on LinkedIn</p><p><a href="http://intangible.ai/">Learn more about Intangible.ai</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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We’re talking with Co-Founders Charles Migos and Bharat Vasan.

And together, we talk about how to make the most out of AI tools, including mocking up ideas, iterating quickly and taking risks.
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So we thought we’d bring in the founders of a brand new tool for making rich, interactive 3D content using AI.

We’re talking with Co-Founders Charles Migos and Bharat Vasan.

And together, we talk about how to make the most out of AI tools, including mocking up ideas, iterating quickly and taking risks.</itunes:summary>
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So we thought we’d bring in the founders of a brand new tool for making rich, interactive 3D content using AI.

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And together, we talk about how to make the most out of AI tools, including mocking up ideas, iterating quickly and taking risks.
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So we thought we’d bring in the founders of a brand new tool for making rich, interactive 3D content using AI.

We’re talking with Co-Founders Charles Migos and Bharat Vasan.

And together, we talk about how to make the most out of AI tools, including mocking up ideas, iterating quickly and taking risks.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Desert Oracle: B2B Marketing Lessons from Ken Layne’s Love of Lo-Fi Media with Chief Evangelist at Contentful, Nicole France</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>You would never send a postcard instead of an email, create a zine instead of a white paper, or take polaroids instead of digital headshots. </p><p>But that’s why you, the digital marketer, should do it.</p><p>There’s an appeal to all of these lo-fi, analog mediums that call back to yesteryear. A nostalgia. A deliberate denial of modernity. </p><p>Not only would it surprise your audience, it would lure them right in.</p><p>So in this episode, we’re making a case for lo-fi content. We’re doing so by pulling marketing lessons from Ken Layne’s <i>Desert Oracle.</i></p><p>With the help of our special guest, Chief Evangelist at Contentful, Nicole France, we talk about creating lo-fi content, bucking convention, taking a distinct perspective, and much more.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Nicole France</strong></p><p>Nicole France is Chief Evangelist at Contentful. Nicole is a passionate customer advocate evangelizing new ways of thinking about content and organizing the work of digital business. It’s the wave of the future — and her mission is to make sure everyone knows why. She brings the perspective and critical thinking of an industry analyst and the first-hand experience of a practitioner. Before joining Contentful, Nicole worked as an analyst at Constellation Research and Gartner. She also held a variety of strategy and marketing roles at Fujitsu, Equinix, ITSMA, and Cisco. A graduate of UC Berkeley, Nicole enjoys the outdoors, flying small planes, and embarking on yet another house project in her spare time.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Desert Oracle</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Create lo-fi content.</strong> Make a zine, a radio show or podcast, a book or comic book. Something your audience can touch and can use to get a bit deeper into your world. Make your brand real for them. Nicole says that when it comes to <i>Desert Oracle</i>, “There's something here that kind of harkens back to what the arts and crafts movement was. In the industrial revolution, you know, this idea of kind of going back to this craft, this artisanal, this very human, this very lo-fi way of doing things. And ironically enough, I think there's a real space for that, even in these digital channels.”</li><li><strong>Buck convention. </strong>Feeling disillusioned with the mainstream take on building an audience? Ken Layne grows his audience by creating niche, tangible content with a strong sense of place and it has garnered a dedicated following. In 2024, 44% of Spotify listeners were new to the <i>Desert Oracle </i>podcast, and it ranked among the top 5 or top 10 podcasts for 5,000 listeners. Nicole says, “ [Ken Layne] is actively rejecting conventional wisdom about how you build an audience. And yet that is absolutely part of what is making him successful at doing it. And it's almost like the extent to which I think of Patagonia a lot of times in this kind of context, where Patagonia is telling you, like, use the stuff you already have. And that somehow is part of what makes you want to keep going back to Patagonia. This is what makes people so loyal to Patagonia is the bigger mission. And like weirdly telling people not to buy it somehow is what makes them want to go and buy more, which is sort of, but not actually their intent.”</li><li><strong>Take a distinct perspective. </strong>What is the story that is unique to you? That’s the story you want to tell. Nicole says, “ That distinctiveness in that perspective and that point of view, I think that's something that really effective brands gravitate toward anyway. They're good at it consciously and sometimes unconsciously as well. And I think B2B marketing needs more of that. You know, where what we offer our customers, regardless of what we're selling is typically not generic stuff. So why should our marketing sound like generic stuff? And yet a whole hell of a lot of it does. For a long time, we’ve been in a world where there's a tremendous volume of noise and the kinds of things that get cut through are things like Ken Layne's curmudgeonly, somewhat dismissive and yet somehow totally compelling take on the world. That’s what draws people in."</li><li><strong>Curate an experience. </strong>Ken Layne curates an experience that captures the mystical nature of Joshua Tree and the greater Mojave Desert. And he does it by appealing to the senses - more than just the sight that digital content requires. You hear the voices of the desert through his podcast and radio show. You can hold an artifact of the desert: the <i>Desert Oracle </i>zine. His multimedia approach creates a world unique to <i>Desert Oracle. </i>And you get the inside scoop. Nicole says, “ There is a very specific point of view, it is Ken Layne's point of view. But he also brings in a bunch of stories from other people and from other places and sometimes from other times as well.  he's curating an experience for you. And I think that is a really powerful takeaway here.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*” What Ken Layne does with <i>Desert Oracle</i> is paint this very compelling picture of a place. In some cases, a literal place, like when he's hiking out in Joshua tree, or in some cases, it's more of almost like a spiritual place, a conceptual place that we want to be in.</p><p>*” How do we get back in touch with the things that are really fundamental, that really are the most important in our existence and nature and, you know, as people? And then how do we associate those meaningful things with what we do in the rest of our lives?”</p><p>*” [Ken Layne] is actively rejecting conventional wisdom about how you build an audience. And yet that is absolutely part of what is making him successful at doing it. And it's almost like the extent to which I think of Patagonia a lot of times in this kind of context, where Patagonia is telling you, like, use the stuff you already have. And that somehow is part of what makes you want to keep going back to Patagonia. This is what makes people so loyal to Patagonia is the bigger mission. And like weirdly telling people not to buy it somehow is what makes them want to go and buy more, which is sort of, but not actually their intent.”</p><p>*” When you have a really compelling idea or message at the core, you can find all of these different ways of communicating it really effectively.”</p><p>*” We found the podcast and then we found the publication. And I guess it really speaks to this idea that multimedia is everywhere. It's in a whole bunch of different stuff. And I think that is actually a really important message and takeaway here, too.  I think that  this idea of being able to explore different aspects of the story and the story world is really key.  Knowing where your audience is, but also being able to bring your audience to where you are, or where you want them to be.  Like, I have totally been brought in and then bought into the world of <i>Desert Oracle. </i>How I got there is almost immaterial, but like there are all these different places that I'm getting this enjoyment from, being part of that world and I feel like I have found a path that brought me in there.”</p><p>*”[<i>Desert Oracle] </i>is not for everybody for sure, but boy, it creates an incredibly loyal and dedicated audience. That's actually what we want to do as B2B marketers as well.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Nicole France, Chief Evangelist at Contentful</p><p>[3:45] Nicole France's Role at Contentful</p><p>[4:54] The Creation of <i>Desert Oracle</i></p><p>[7:07] Ken Layne's Career Journey</p><p>[10:17] Marketing Lessons from <i>Desert Oracle</i></p><p>[13:57] The Power of Authenticity in Marketing</p><p>[14:49] The Role of Generative AI in Marketing</p><p>[39:06] The Importance of Longevity in Content Creation</p><p>[41:34] Final Thoughts and Conclusion</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lnicolefrance/">Connect with Nicole on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.contentful.com/">Learn more about Contentful</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2025 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Nicole France, Ian Faison, Meredith Gooderham, Scott Goodrich, The coyotes)</author>
      <link>https://www.caspianstudios.com/remarkable</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You would never send a postcard instead of an email, create a zine instead of a white paper, or take polaroids instead of digital headshots. </p><p>But that’s why you, the digital marketer, should do it.</p><p>There’s an appeal to all of these lo-fi, analog mediums that call back to yesteryear. A nostalgia. A deliberate denial of modernity. </p><p>Not only would it surprise your audience, it would lure them right in.</p><p>So in this episode, we’re making a case for lo-fi content. We’re doing so by pulling marketing lessons from Ken Layne’s <i>Desert Oracle.</i></p><p>With the help of our special guest, Chief Evangelist at Contentful, Nicole France, we talk about creating lo-fi content, bucking convention, taking a distinct perspective, and much more.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Nicole France</strong></p><p>Nicole France is Chief Evangelist at Contentful. Nicole is a passionate customer advocate evangelizing new ways of thinking about content and organizing the work of digital business. It’s the wave of the future — and her mission is to make sure everyone knows why. She brings the perspective and critical thinking of an industry analyst and the first-hand experience of a practitioner. Before joining Contentful, Nicole worked as an analyst at Constellation Research and Gartner. She also held a variety of strategy and marketing roles at Fujitsu, Equinix, ITSMA, and Cisco. A graduate of UC Berkeley, Nicole enjoys the outdoors, flying small planes, and embarking on yet another house project in her spare time.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Desert Oracle</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Create lo-fi content.</strong> Make a zine, a radio show or podcast, a book or comic book. Something your audience can touch and can use to get a bit deeper into your world. Make your brand real for them. Nicole says that when it comes to <i>Desert Oracle</i>, “There's something here that kind of harkens back to what the arts and crafts movement was. In the industrial revolution, you know, this idea of kind of going back to this craft, this artisanal, this very human, this very lo-fi way of doing things. And ironically enough, I think there's a real space for that, even in these digital channels.”</li><li><strong>Buck convention. </strong>Feeling disillusioned with the mainstream take on building an audience? Ken Layne grows his audience by creating niche, tangible content with a strong sense of place and it has garnered a dedicated following. In 2024, 44% of Spotify listeners were new to the <i>Desert Oracle </i>podcast, and it ranked among the top 5 or top 10 podcasts for 5,000 listeners. Nicole says, “ [Ken Layne] is actively rejecting conventional wisdom about how you build an audience. And yet that is absolutely part of what is making him successful at doing it. And it's almost like the extent to which I think of Patagonia a lot of times in this kind of context, where Patagonia is telling you, like, use the stuff you already have. And that somehow is part of what makes you want to keep going back to Patagonia. This is what makes people so loyal to Patagonia is the bigger mission. And like weirdly telling people not to buy it somehow is what makes them want to go and buy more, which is sort of, but not actually their intent.”</li><li><strong>Take a distinct perspective. </strong>What is the story that is unique to you? That’s the story you want to tell. Nicole says, “ That distinctiveness in that perspective and that point of view, I think that's something that really effective brands gravitate toward anyway. They're good at it consciously and sometimes unconsciously as well. And I think B2B marketing needs more of that. You know, where what we offer our customers, regardless of what we're selling is typically not generic stuff. So why should our marketing sound like generic stuff? And yet a whole hell of a lot of it does. For a long time, we’ve been in a world where there's a tremendous volume of noise and the kinds of things that get cut through are things like Ken Layne's curmudgeonly, somewhat dismissive and yet somehow totally compelling take on the world. That’s what draws people in."</li><li><strong>Curate an experience. </strong>Ken Layne curates an experience that captures the mystical nature of Joshua Tree and the greater Mojave Desert. And he does it by appealing to the senses - more than just the sight that digital content requires. You hear the voices of the desert through his podcast and radio show. You can hold an artifact of the desert: the <i>Desert Oracle </i>zine. His multimedia approach creates a world unique to <i>Desert Oracle. </i>And you get the inside scoop. Nicole says, “ There is a very specific point of view, it is Ken Layne's point of view. But he also brings in a bunch of stories from other people and from other places and sometimes from other times as well.  he's curating an experience for you. And I think that is a really powerful takeaway here.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*” What Ken Layne does with <i>Desert Oracle</i> is paint this very compelling picture of a place. In some cases, a literal place, like when he's hiking out in Joshua tree, or in some cases, it's more of almost like a spiritual place, a conceptual place that we want to be in.</p><p>*” How do we get back in touch with the things that are really fundamental, that really are the most important in our existence and nature and, you know, as people? And then how do we associate those meaningful things with what we do in the rest of our lives?”</p><p>*” [Ken Layne] is actively rejecting conventional wisdom about how you build an audience. And yet that is absolutely part of what is making him successful at doing it. And it's almost like the extent to which I think of Patagonia a lot of times in this kind of context, where Patagonia is telling you, like, use the stuff you already have. And that somehow is part of what makes you want to keep going back to Patagonia. This is what makes people so loyal to Patagonia is the bigger mission. And like weirdly telling people not to buy it somehow is what makes them want to go and buy more, which is sort of, but not actually their intent.”</p><p>*” When you have a really compelling idea or message at the core, you can find all of these different ways of communicating it really effectively.”</p><p>*” We found the podcast and then we found the publication. And I guess it really speaks to this idea that multimedia is everywhere. It's in a whole bunch of different stuff. And I think that is actually a really important message and takeaway here, too.  I think that  this idea of being able to explore different aspects of the story and the story world is really key.  Knowing where your audience is, but also being able to bring your audience to where you are, or where you want them to be.  Like, I have totally been brought in and then bought into the world of <i>Desert Oracle. </i>How I got there is almost immaterial, but like there are all these different places that I'm getting this enjoyment from, being part of that world and I feel like I have found a path that brought me in there.”</p><p>*”[<i>Desert Oracle] </i>is not for everybody for sure, but boy, it creates an incredibly loyal and dedicated audience. That's actually what we want to do as B2B marketers as well.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Nicole France, Chief Evangelist at Contentful</p><p>[3:45] Nicole France's Role at Contentful</p><p>[4:54] The Creation of <i>Desert Oracle</i></p><p>[7:07] Ken Layne's Career Journey</p><p>[10:17] Marketing Lessons from <i>Desert Oracle</i></p><p>[13:57] The Power of Authenticity in Marketing</p><p>[14:49] The Role of Generative AI in Marketing</p><p>[39:06] The Importance of Longevity in Content Creation</p><p>[41:34] Final Thoughts and Conclusion</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lnicolefrance/">Connect with Nicole on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.contentful.com/">Learn more about Contentful</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>You would never send a postcard instead of an email, create a zine instead of a white paper, or take polaroids instead of digital headshots. 

But that’s why you, the digital marketer, should do it.

There’s an appeal to all of these lo-fi, analog mediums that call back to yesteryear. A nostalgia. A deliberate denial of modernity. 

Not only would it surprise your audience, it would lure them right in.

So in this episode, we’re making a case for lo-fi content. We’re doing so by pulling marketing lessons from Ken Layne’s Desert Oracle.

With the help of our special guest, Chief Evangelist at Contentful, Nicole France, we talk about creating lo-fi content, bucking convention, taking a distinct perspective, and much more.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>You would never send a postcard instead of an email, create a zine instead of a white paper, or take polaroids instead of digital headshots. 

But that’s why you, the digital marketer, should do it.

There’s an appeal to all of these lo-fi, analog mediums that call back to yesteryear. A nostalgia. A deliberate denial of modernity. 

Not only would it surprise your audience, it would lure them right in.

So in this episode, we’re making a case for lo-fi content. We’re doing so by pulling marketing lessons from Ken Layne’s Desert Oracle.

With the help of our special guest, Chief Evangelist at Contentful, Nicole France, we talk about creating lo-fi content, bucking convention, taking a distinct perspective, and much more.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>A River Runs Through It: B2B Marketing Lessons from Fly Fishing with Simpro CMO Rachel Truair</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>A fly fisherman goes to part of the river where the trout are feeding, uses a fly that mimics the insect hatching at that time, and times their cast to land just-so.</p><p>A marketer goes where their target audience is, posts content in-sync with what’s trending, and times their campaign to land just-so. </p><p>It’s that same idea of tuning into the media landscape and knowing your audience that will land you the big fish. </p><p>There are so many marketing lessons we can take from fly fishing. And in this episode, we’re tying the two together through an analysis of <i>A River Runs Through It.</i></p><p>With the help of our special guest, CMO Simpro Rachel Truair, we’re talking about how rhythm and timing are everything, going where you’re most likely to find success, and much more.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Rachel Truair</strong></p><p>Rachel Truair is a seasoned marketing leader with over 15 years of experience in driving revenue and growth for high-growth startups and Fortune 100 enterprises. She combines foundational best practices from her corporate background with agile and innovative approaches from her scale up experience, leading and mentoring teams through successful exits in IPOs and acquisitions. Her teams have won the Forrester Return on Integration Award, the Oracle "Markie" Award, and nominated for the 6Sense Breakthrough Award.</p><p>Currently, as the CMO of Simpro, a $120M+ ARR private equity-backed field service management software company headquartered in Brisbane, Australia, Rachel is responsible for aligning marketing strategy to business outcomes and creating predictable, scalable sources of revenue. She leverages her expertise in go to market strategy, account based marketing and leading global marketing teams to source pipeline driving ninety percent of Simpro's annual revenue.</p><p>As an equestrian and fly fisherwoman, Rachel is passionate about conservation and the outdoors, serving on the non-profit board of the Fabien Cousteau Ocean Learning Center. She is a mom of two and holds a BA from St. Edward's University and an MBA from The University of Texas at Austin's McCombs School of Business.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> A River Runs Through It</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Rhythm and timing are everything. </strong>Marketing, like fishing, takes practice, skill and finesse. Rachel says when it comes to flyfishing, “ It's not about strength. It's not about muscling it into something. It's about understanding the rhythm and the timing. A lot of times you want to just try to get to the end and be really perfect at something and put all of your strength into it and throw it as far as you can. But the reality is that actually makes it worse. It makes it harder. And if you can start to learn the rhythm, the feel, the timing of it, you can really start to see improvement.” </li><li><strong>Go where you’re most likely to have success. </strong>In other words, go where your target audience is. Whether that’s social media, email, podcasts, or wherever. You’re literally fishing for customers. Rachel says, ” You really need to focus on the areas where you have the highest probability for success and be testing and iterating within those areas. But you also have to believe that the fish are there, right? You have to know that this is the right area where they would be.  And you can't waste time on the areas where you don't have belief.”</li><li><strong>It’s all about storytelling.</strong> We all know about big fish stories. With fishing, just like marketing, it’s all about having a story to tell. Ian says, “It is about the thing that you can go tell other people and when you get to come back. Whether it's from an event or your podcast series, and you get to go back and everyone says, ‘What'd you get?’ You have to have conviction. You go to the place, you try your best. And if you don't get all the leads or opportunities or whatever it is, that you get that story that you can go back and say, ‘Hey, this is why this was worth it. ’” What’s your story?  </li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Cost per lead these days really doesn't mean anything. I could spend a dollar on 3,000 spam leads and that doesn't mean that I'm going to get any new sales or great deals out of it. What is hard is to measure the value of what you're spending money on that creates valuable, sustainable growth. And customers who love the product and have success with the product. That's really not just about spending certain money up front to attract those customers, but also following those customers in their journey and understanding. How are you going to make them successful?”</p><p>*” You really need to focus on the areas where you have the highest probability for success and be testing and iterating within those areas. But you also have to believe that the fish are there, right? You have to know that this is the right area where they would be.  And you can't waste time on the areas where you don't have belief.”</p><p>*”Marketing [like fishing] is about the story, it is about the thing that you can go tell other people and when you get to come back. Whether it's from an event or your podcast series, and you get to go back and everyone says, ‘What'd you get?’ You have to have conviction. You go to the place, you try your best. And if you don't get all the leads or opportunities or whatever it is, that you get that story that you can go back and say, ‘Hey, this is why this was worth it. ’”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Rachel Truair, CMO at Simpro</p><p>[4:20] The Story Behind <i>A River Runs Through It</i></p><p>[9:36] Fly Fishing Techniques and Marketing Parallels</p><p>[15:17] The Deeper Meaning of Fly Fishing</p><p>[22:22] Personal Fly Fishing Experiences and Marketing Insights</p><p>[25:51] Focusing on High Probability Areas</p><p>[26:39] Defining Success in Marketing</p><p>[28:06] Fly Fishing Team Building Experience[</p><p>[38:39] Fishing Stories and Marketing Lessons</p><p>[44:52] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/racheltruair/">Connect with Rachel on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.simprogroup.com/campaigns/project-management-software?utm_source=advertising&utm_medium=Google%20Ads&utm_campaign=16370484640&utm_content=144397945403&utm_term=simpro&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADAN02sriPB3lLcbiKs7wYddd0jvV&gclid=CjwKCAiAh6y9BhBREiwApBLHC5URjn2ZCQbGo345bURdz4d86WHBrnr4abylmmqmWyj7c1843SBINBoCd8oQAvD_BwE">Learn more about Simpro</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Feb 2025 15:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Ian Faison, Rachel Truair, Meredith Gooderham, Scott Goodrich)</author>
      <link>https://www.caspianstudios.com/remarkable</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fly fisherman goes to part of the river where the trout are feeding, uses a fly that mimics the insect hatching at that time, and times their cast to land just-so.</p><p>A marketer goes where their target audience is, posts content in-sync with what’s trending, and times their campaign to land just-so. </p><p>It’s that same idea of tuning into the media landscape and knowing your audience that will land you the big fish. </p><p>There are so many marketing lessons we can take from fly fishing. And in this episode, we’re tying the two together through an analysis of <i>A River Runs Through It.</i></p><p>With the help of our special guest, CMO Simpro Rachel Truair, we’re talking about how rhythm and timing are everything, going where you’re most likely to find success, and much more.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Rachel Truair</strong></p><p>Rachel Truair is a seasoned marketing leader with over 15 years of experience in driving revenue and growth for high-growth startups and Fortune 100 enterprises. She combines foundational best practices from her corporate background with agile and innovative approaches from her scale up experience, leading and mentoring teams through successful exits in IPOs and acquisitions. Her teams have won the Forrester Return on Integration Award, the Oracle "Markie" Award, and nominated for the 6Sense Breakthrough Award.</p><p>Currently, as the CMO of Simpro, a $120M+ ARR private equity-backed field service management software company headquartered in Brisbane, Australia, Rachel is responsible for aligning marketing strategy to business outcomes and creating predictable, scalable sources of revenue. She leverages her expertise in go to market strategy, account based marketing and leading global marketing teams to source pipeline driving ninety percent of Simpro's annual revenue.</p><p>As an equestrian and fly fisherwoman, Rachel is passionate about conservation and the outdoors, serving on the non-profit board of the Fabien Cousteau Ocean Learning Center. She is a mom of two and holds a BA from St. Edward's University and an MBA from The University of Texas at Austin's McCombs School of Business.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> A River Runs Through It</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Rhythm and timing are everything. </strong>Marketing, like fishing, takes practice, skill and finesse. Rachel says when it comes to flyfishing, “ It's not about strength. It's not about muscling it into something. It's about understanding the rhythm and the timing. A lot of times you want to just try to get to the end and be really perfect at something and put all of your strength into it and throw it as far as you can. But the reality is that actually makes it worse. It makes it harder. And if you can start to learn the rhythm, the feel, the timing of it, you can really start to see improvement.” </li><li><strong>Go where you’re most likely to have success. </strong>In other words, go where your target audience is. Whether that’s social media, email, podcasts, or wherever. You’re literally fishing for customers. Rachel says, ” You really need to focus on the areas where you have the highest probability for success and be testing and iterating within those areas. But you also have to believe that the fish are there, right? You have to know that this is the right area where they would be.  And you can't waste time on the areas where you don't have belief.”</li><li><strong>It’s all about storytelling.</strong> We all know about big fish stories. With fishing, just like marketing, it’s all about having a story to tell. Ian says, “It is about the thing that you can go tell other people and when you get to come back. Whether it's from an event or your podcast series, and you get to go back and everyone says, ‘What'd you get?’ You have to have conviction. You go to the place, you try your best. And if you don't get all the leads or opportunities or whatever it is, that you get that story that you can go back and say, ‘Hey, this is why this was worth it. ’” What’s your story?  </li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Cost per lead these days really doesn't mean anything. I could spend a dollar on 3,000 spam leads and that doesn't mean that I'm going to get any new sales or great deals out of it. What is hard is to measure the value of what you're spending money on that creates valuable, sustainable growth. And customers who love the product and have success with the product. That's really not just about spending certain money up front to attract those customers, but also following those customers in their journey and understanding. How are you going to make them successful?”</p><p>*” You really need to focus on the areas where you have the highest probability for success and be testing and iterating within those areas. But you also have to believe that the fish are there, right? You have to know that this is the right area where they would be.  And you can't waste time on the areas where you don't have belief.”</p><p>*”Marketing [like fishing] is about the story, it is about the thing that you can go tell other people and when you get to come back. Whether it's from an event or your podcast series, and you get to go back and everyone says, ‘What'd you get?’ You have to have conviction. You go to the place, you try your best. And if you don't get all the leads or opportunities or whatever it is, that you get that story that you can go back and say, ‘Hey, this is why this was worth it. ’”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Rachel Truair, CMO at Simpro</p><p>[4:20] The Story Behind <i>A River Runs Through It</i></p><p>[9:36] Fly Fishing Techniques and Marketing Parallels</p><p>[15:17] The Deeper Meaning of Fly Fishing</p><p>[22:22] Personal Fly Fishing Experiences and Marketing Insights</p><p>[25:51] Focusing on High Probability Areas</p><p>[26:39] Defining Success in Marketing</p><p>[28:06] Fly Fishing Team Building Experience[</p><p>[38:39] Fishing Stories and Marketing Lessons</p><p>[44:52] Final Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/racheltruair/">Connect with Rachel on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.simprogroup.com/campaigns/project-management-software?utm_source=advertising&utm_medium=Google%20Ads&utm_campaign=16370484640&utm_content=144397945403&utm_term=simpro&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADAN02sriPB3lLcbiKs7wYddd0jvV&gclid=CjwKCAiAh6y9BhBREiwApBLHC5URjn2ZCQbGo345bURdz4d86WHBrnr4abylmmqmWyj7c1843SBINBoCd8oQAvD_BwE">Learn more about Simpro</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>A River Runs Through It: B2B Marketing Lessons from Fly Fishing with Simpro CMO Rachel Truair</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:summary>A fly fisherman goes to part of the river where the trout are feeding, uses a fly that mimics the insect hatching at that time, and times their cast to land just-so.

A marketer goes where their target audience is, posts content in-sync with what’s trending, and times their campaign to land just-so. 

It’s that same idea of tuning into the media landscape and knowing your audience that will land you the big fish. 

There are so many marketing lessons we can take from fly fishing. And in this episode, we’re tying the two together through an analysis of A River Runs Through It.

With the help of our special guest, CMO Simpro Rachel Truair, we’re talking about how rhythm and timing are everything, going where you’re most likely to find success, and much more.</itunes:summary>
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A marketer goes where their target audience is, posts content in-sync with what’s trending, and times their campaign to land just-so. 

It’s that same idea of tuning into the media landscape and knowing your audience that will land you the big fish. 

There are so many marketing lessons we can take from fly fishing. And in this episode, we’re tying the two together through an analysis of A River Runs Through It.

With the help of our special guest, CMO Simpro Rachel Truair, we’re talking about how rhythm and timing are everything, going where you’re most likely to find success, and much more.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Pokemon: B2B Marketing Lessons from Pokemania with Fractional CMO Veronica Saron</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Over 85 million people play Pokemon Go every month.* </p><p>They’re out there, wandering the real world, finding, catching and battling with their cute little virtual creatures. </p><p>But the experience is real and the people they play with are real. You could say it’s one of the most successful in-person activations ever. </p><p>Pokemon Go is proof that in-person activations act as an extremely effective marketing strategy.</p><p>That’s one of the lessons we’re taking from Pokemon in this episode with the help of our special guest, fractional CMO Veronica Saron. </p><p>Together, we also talk about providing game balance, paying attention to metrics, and much more.</p><p>*As of the first half of 2024</p><p><strong>About our guest, Veronica Saron</strong></p><p>Veronica Saron is a marketing leader, formerly of Niantic (Pokémon GO) and AI-powered Neeva (acquired by Snowflake (NYSE: SNOW) in May 2023). Her journey has led her through the worlds of gaming, DAOs, artificial intelligence, web3, and the metaverse. Recently, she led the marketing team at Neeva, revolutionizing the search experience by embedding AI answers into an advertiser-free search engine. Her team’s efforts around Neeva's AI-powered positioning – paired with frequent high-profile updates – illuminated their innovative approach, attracted industry leaders and led to their acquisition by Snowflake.</p><p>Over a decade ago, Veronica co-founded OwlSpark, Rice University's entrepreneurship accelerator, marking the start of her tech journey. After serving Fortune 500 and Global 2000 clients as a strategy consultant and having a stint as a coordinator at Google, she joined Niantic. There, she led the team that transformed Pokémon GO into a global phenomenon, collaborating with esteemed partners like Google, Apple, Samsung, Nintendo, McDonald's, Verizon, Longchamp, Gucci, Northface, and 7-Eleven, as well as countless global SMBs, community creators, and influencers. </p><p>She has since stepped into roles as an investor and advisor, shaping the future of tech startups. Outside of work, she enjoys stovetop espresso, practicing muay thai, and playing the saxophone. </p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Pokemon:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Provide game balance.</strong> Veronica says, “ When people talk about gamification, it needs to be at the right level of difficulty for you to not just get frustrated and give up. A really good game  will start you off on level one and then you progress through difficulty levels.” And when you apply this to marketing, Ian says, “ Your sales process getting really hard for no freaking reason is the most frustrating thing ever.” So take your customers on a journey, and give them the experience appropriate to where they are in their buying process.</li><li><strong>Look at the metrics.</strong> And give them more weight than verbal feedback. Data speaks louder than words. Veronica says, “ When Pokemon Go was in beta, the metrics were really good. Like the retention rates, the activation rates. All the metrics were up and to the right. But people were giving really bad feedback. They were like, ‘I hate this. Why is it not like that? Why isn't it working this way? Why isn't it doing that? Why isn't it doing this?’ And the reason why the team launched the game is because the metrics just spoke louder than what people were saying.”</li><li><strong>Plan in-person activations. </strong> And create immersive environments for your audience. Veronica says, “ When you think about B2B events, you think about conferences and these kind of old school vibes, and I  don't think that's the cutting edge anymore. If you want to do B2B marketing well, take a page out of B2C. There've been some incredible in-person events.” When she worked on Pokemon Go, they were able to do successful in-person events even during COVID and they were able to grow the business despite restrictions.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”  With Pokemon Go and with any product, there's always going to be core users who are like super users. And they will have all these ideas. They'll want certain features. They'll want certain things fixed. They will be really loud. And then you get the rest of everybody that’s the silent majority. A huge part of what product marketers have to do is prioritize feedback based on what is actually going to move the needle in terms of our goals. Because if you just listen to the core users all the time, you'll just make this thing that's only for a very specific super user. You have to balance that feedback with what's going to work for the majority as well.”</p><p>*”Figure out what problem you're solving. Who is it for? Figure that out first and then you can start to think about being precious about your brand. Once you have something to protect, like the Pokemon company, then you can get precious about it.”</p><p>*” Sometimes we get caught up in our own core mindset and we forget we have to take the customer through a journey and through a ‘balanced game,’ if you will.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Veronica Saron, Fractional CMO at early stage startups</p><p>[1:33] Veronica's Journey with Pokemon</p><p>[5:02] The Origin Story of Pokemon</p><p>[10:07] Pokemon's Global Impact</p><p>[16:01] Marketing Pokemon Go</p><p>[29:16] The Business Model of Pokémon Go</p><p>[35:06] B2B Marketing Lessons from Pokémon Go</p><p>[35:53] The Importance of Game Balance in B2B</p><p>[41:46] Brand Consistency and Product Market Fit</p><p>[46:44] The Power of In-Person Events</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/veron1ca/">Connect with Veronica on LinkedIn</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over 85 million people play Pokemon Go every month.* </p><p>They’re out there, wandering the real world, finding, catching and battling with their cute little virtual creatures. </p><p>But the experience is real and the people they play with are real. You could say it’s one of the most successful in-person activations ever. </p><p>Pokemon Go is proof that in-person activations act as an extremely effective marketing strategy.</p><p>That’s one of the lessons we’re taking from Pokemon in this episode with the help of our special guest, fractional CMO Veronica Saron. </p><p>Together, we also talk about providing game balance, paying attention to metrics, and much more.</p><p>*As of the first half of 2024</p><p><strong>About our guest, Veronica Saron</strong></p><p>Veronica Saron is a marketing leader, formerly of Niantic (Pokémon GO) and AI-powered Neeva (acquired by Snowflake (NYSE: SNOW) in May 2023). Her journey has led her through the worlds of gaming, DAOs, artificial intelligence, web3, and the metaverse. Recently, she led the marketing team at Neeva, revolutionizing the search experience by embedding AI answers into an advertiser-free search engine. Her team’s efforts around Neeva's AI-powered positioning – paired with frequent high-profile updates – illuminated their innovative approach, attracted industry leaders and led to their acquisition by Snowflake.</p><p>Over a decade ago, Veronica co-founded OwlSpark, Rice University's entrepreneurship accelerator, marking the start of her tech journey. After serving Fortune 500 and Global 2000 clients as a strategy consultant and having a stint as a coordinator at Google, she joined Niantic. There, she led the team that transformed Pokémon GO into a global phenomenon, collaborating with esteemed partners like Google, Apple, Samsung, Nintendo, McDonald's, Verizon, Longchamp, Gucci, Northface, and 7-Eleven, as well as countless global SMBs, community creators, and influencers. </p><p>She has since stepped into roles as an investor and advisor, shaping the future of tech startups. Outside of work, she enjoys stovetop espresso, practicing muay thai, and playing the saxophone. </p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Pokemon:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Provide game balance.</strong> Veronica says, “ When people talk about gamification, it needs to be at the right level of difficulty for you to not just get frustrated and give up. A really good game  will start you off on level one and then you progress through difficulty levels.” And when you apply this to marketing, Ian says, “ Your sales process getting really hard for no freaking reason is the most frustrating thing ever.” So take your customers on a journey, and give them the experience appropriate to where they are in their buying process.</li><li><strong>Look at the metrics.</strong> And give them more weight than verbal feedback. Data speaks louder than words. Veronica says, “ When Pokemon Go was in beta, the metrics were really good. Like the retention rates, the activation rates. All the metrics were up and to the right. But people were giving really bad feedback. They were like, ‘I hate this. Why is it not like that? Why isn't it working this way? Why isn't it doing that? Why isn't it doing this?’ And the reason why the team launched the game is because the metrics just spoke louder than what people were saying.”</li><li><strong>Plan in-person activations. </strong> And create immersive environments for your audience. Veronica says, “ When you think about B2B events, you think about conferences and these kind of old school vibes, and I  don't think that's the cutting edge anymore. If you want to do B2B marketing well, take a page out of B2C. There've been some incredible in-person events.” When she worked on Pokemon Go, they were able to do successful in-person events even during COVID and they were able to grow the business despite restrictions.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”  With Pokemon Go and with any product, there's always going to be core users who are like super users. And they will have all these ideas. They'll want certain features. They'll want certain things fixed. They will be really loud. And then you get the rest of everybody that’s the silent majority. A huge part of what product marketers have to do is prioritize feedback based on what is actually going to move the needle in terms of our goals. Because if you just listen to the core users all the time, you'll just make this thing that's only for a very specific super user. You have to balance that feedback with what's going to work for the majority as well.”</p><p>*”Figure out what problem you're solving. Who is it for? Figure that out first and then you can start to think about being precious about your brand. Once you have something to protect, like the Pokemon company, then you can get precious about it.”</p><p>*” Sometimes we get caught up in our own core mindset and we forget we have to take the customer through a journey and through a ‘balanced game,’ if you will.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Veronica Saron, Fractional CMO at early stage startups</p><p>[1:33] Veronica's Journey with Pokemon</p><p>[5:02] The Origin Story of Pokemon</p><p>[10:07] Pokemon's Global Impact</p><p>[16:01] Marketing Pokemon Go</p><p>[29:16] The Business Model of Pokémon Go</p><p>[35:06] B2B Marketing Lessons from Pokémon Go</p><p>[35:53] The Importance of Game Balance in B2B</p><p>[41:46] Brand Consistency and Product Market Fit</p><p>[46:44] The Power of In-Person Events</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/veron1ca/">Connect with Veronica on LinkedIn</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>Over 85 million people play Pokemon Go every month.* 

They’re out there, wandering the real world, finding, catching and battling with their cute little virtual creatures. 

But the experience is real and the people they play with are real. You could say it’s one of the most successful in-person activations ever. 

Pokemon Go is proof that in-person activations act as an extremely effective marketing strategy.

That’s one of the lessons we’re taking from Pokemon in this episode with the help of our special guest, fractional CMO Veronica Saron. 

Together, we also talk about providing game balance, paying attention to metrics, and much more.

*As of the first half of 2024
Over 85 million people play Pokemon Go every month.* 

They’re out there, wandering the real world, finding, catching and battling with their cute little virtual creatures. 

But the experience is real and the people they play with are real. You could say it’s one of the most successful in-person activations ever. 

Pokemon Go is proof that in-person activations act as an extremely effective marketing strategy.

That’s one of the lessons we’re taking from Pokemon in this episode with the help of our special guest, fractional CMO Veronica Saron. 

Together, we also talk about providing game balance, paying attention to metrics, and much more.

*As of the first half of 2024</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Over 85 million people play Pokemon Go every month.* 

They’re out there, wandering the real world, finding, catching and battling with their cute little virtual creatures. 

But the experience is real and the people they play with are real. You could say it’s one of the most successful in-person activations ever. 

Pokemon Go is proof that in-person activations act as an extremely effective marketing strategy.

That’s one of the lessons we’re taking from Pokemon in this episode with the help of our special guest, fractional CMO Veronica Saron. 

Together, we also talk about providing game balance, paying attention to metrics, and much more.

*As of the first half of 2024
Over 85 million people play Pokemon Go every month.* 

They’re out there, wandering the real world, finding, catching and battling with their cute little virtual creatures. 

But the experience is real and the people they play with are real. You could say it’s one of the most successful in-person activations ever. 

Pokemon Go is proof that in-person activations act as an extremely effective marketing strategy.

That’s one of the lessons we’re taking from Pokemon in this episode with the help of our special guest, fractional CMO Veronica Saron. 

Together, we also talk about providing game balance, paying attention to metrics, and much more.

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      <title>Dune: B2B Marketing Lessons from Director Denis Villeneuve’s Masterpiece with VP of Corporate Marketing at Cribl, Ryan Mattison</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Not all remakes are created equal. </p><p>The <i>Dune</i> of 2021 is not the <i>Dune</i> of 1984. Maybe we should say not all “retellings” are created equal. </p><p>Because both movies are based on the 1965 book. But film critic Roger Ebert scathingly called the first one "an incomprehensible, ugly, unstructured, pointless excursion." Ouch.</p><p>The second one - the one we’re talking about today - is a different story. It’s been called “aesthetically perfect,” and the “faithful retelling of a complicated story.” And it won a handful of Academy Awards.</p><p>So we’re talking about what makes a great retelling and how to use those lessons in your marketing content. </p><p>With the help of our special guest, VP of Corporate Marketing at Cribl, Ryan Mattison, we also talk about delivering a singular experience, doing partnership-driven marketing, and much more.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Ryan Mattison</strong></p><p>Ryan Mattison is VP of Corporate Marketing at Cribl, where he leads the corporate marketing team, and looks after brand, creative, communications, and events. Prior to joining Cribl in July 2024, Ryan served as VP of Brand & Communications at ThoughtSpot. There, he led brand, creative and design, communications, PR and analyst relations, customer marketing, employee advocacy, investor relations and content marketing functions. Since joining as an individual contributor in 2017, he built the team from the ground up to deliver world class campaigns that cut through a highly competitive landscape, improve ThoughtSpot’s reputation and awareness among key audiences, and generated pipeline that led to revenue.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Dune</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Deliver a singular experience.</strong> And deliver it in the format that optimizes the experience. Like how Dune was presented on iMax. The large format made the experience of the sounds and the vast landscape of the film a more immersive and real experience. Ryan says, ”Deliver an authentic experience, and people will pay for it. That idea of being intentional and connecting it with a really authentic value prop, that for Dune was super real. That large screen format with the premium sound is going to really, really differentiate your experience with the movie.”</li><li><strong>Partner up.  </strong>Find other companies to cross promote content with. Dune did this with the video game Fortnite, allowing players to buy a “skin” so their avatar looks like a Dune character. Ryan says, “Dune also did probably one of the best jobs in recent years of doing partnership-driven marketing. Theater going is skewing older and older, but something like Fortnite,  has a much younger skewed audience. They were like, ‘We need to target a younger demographic because if we can get kids or young folks to ask their parents to go see Dune and their parents were already kind of thinking about going, now it's a family thing. And you're not selling one ticket or two tickets. You're selling four, five, six tickets at one time.” Ryan adds, “ How do you find the right partner that's not just the easy partner, but the partner where you're able to find or open up new channels, new demographics, new audiences in a way that feels like there's intentional value being delivered?”</li><li><strong>Create a remake. </strong>Or as Ian says, “Try it again for the first time.” Because the movie <i>Dune</i> that came out in 2021 was a remake of the 1984 movie. Or really it was a retelling of the same story with little regard for the first version. And because of the generational difference between viewers, Ian says, “This [2021 version] was the first interaction with Dune for, I would bet, a massive percentage of the audience that saw this. They never read the books. They didn't watch the first movie.  But for people like your mom, it's like, ‘Hey, try it again for the first time.’ Like, ‘Yeah, I know you saw the old movie. This is nothing like that. Just try it again.” It reframes everyone’s idea of the original story, and gives a totally new experience of it. So make a remake but keep it fresh.</li><li><strong>Throw the party.</strong> Ian says, “ If you make something worth talking about,  throw the party so that the people can talk about it.” That’s what this podcast is all about, getting people to talk about Remarkable content and spreading knowledge of it through word of mouth. He adds, “ If you make content also make the event, make a premiere, make a big deal out of it.” Also because you deserve to celebrate good content and the hard work that went into it.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*” There is no time when somebody is engaging with any facet of your brand or your business in which you shouldn't be representing the perception that you want to drive.  Every one of those is an opportunity to tell your story in a potentially different channel, different way.”</p><p>*”Deliver an authentic experience, and people will pay for it. That idea of like, being intentional, and connecting it with a really authentic value prop, that for Dune, was super real. That large screen format with the premium sound is going to really, really differentiate your experience with the movie.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Ryan Mattison, VP of Corporate Marketing at Cribl</p><p>[0:56] B2B Marketing Lessons from Dune</p><p>[4:11] Marketing at Cribl</p><p>[7:16] The Storytelling Power of Corporate Marketing</p><p>[9:18] Dune: From Book to Blockbuster</p><p>[12:09] Denis Villeneuve's Vision for Dune</p><p>[15:28] Marketing Strategies Behind Dune's Success</p><p>[22:56] Partnership-Driven Marketing Insights</p><p>[27:24] The Challenge of Marketing B2B Products</p><p>[27:46] Lessons from the Dune Movie Marketing</p><p>[28:57] The Role of Mega Stars in Movie Success</p><p>[31:23] The Importance of Authentic Marketing</p><p>[35:32] Building Anticipation and Word of Mouth</p><p>[44:20] The Power of the CEO's Voice</p><p>[48:52] Upcoming Events and Final Thoughts</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattisonryan/">Connect with Ryan on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://cribl.io/">Learn more about Cribl</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not all remakes are created equal. </p><p>The <i>Dune</i> of 2021 is not the <i>Dune</i> of 1984. Maybe we should say not all “retellings” are created equal. </p><p>Because both movies are based on the 1965 book. But film critic Roger Ebert scathingly called the first one "an incomprehensible, ugly, unstructured, pointless excursion." Ouch.</p><p>The second one - the one we’re talking about today - is a different story. It’s been called “aesthetically perfect,” and the “faithful retelling of a complicated story.” And it won a handful of Academy Awards.</p><p>So we’re talking about what makes a great retelling and how to use those lessons in your marketing content. </p><p>With the help of our special guest, VP of Corporate Marketing at Cribl, Ryan Mattison, we also talk about delivering a singular experience, doing partnership-driven marketing, and much more.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Ryan Mattison</strong></p><p>Ryan Mattison is VP of Corporate Marketing at Cribl, where he leads the corporate marketing team, and looks after brand, creative, communications, and events. Prior to joining Cribl in July 2024, Ryan served as VP of Brand & Communications at ThoughtSpot. There, he led brand, creative and design, communications, PR and analyst relations, customer marketing, employee advocacy, investor relations and content marketing functions. Since joining as an individual contributor in 2017, he built the team from the ground up to deliver world class campaigns that cut through a highly competitive landscape, improve ThoughtSpot’s reputation and awareness among key audiences, and generated pipeline that led to revenue.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Dune</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Deliver a singular experience.</strong> And deliver it in the format that optimizes the experience. Like how Dune was presented on iMax. The large format made the experience of the sounds and the vast landscape of the film a more immersive and real experience. Ryan says, ”Deliver an authentic experience, and people will pay for it. That idea of being intentional and connecting it with a really authentic value prop, that for Dune was super real. That large screen format with the premium sound is going to really, really differentiate your experience with the movie.”</li><li><strong>Partner up.  </strong>Find other companies to cross promote content with. Dune did this with the video game Fortnite, allowing players to buy a “skin” so their avatar looks like a Dune character. Ryan says, “Dune also did probably one of the best jobs in recent years of doing partnership-driven marketing. Theater going is skewing older and older, but something like Fortnite,  has a much younger skewed audience. They were like, ‘We need to target a younger demographic because if we can get kids or young folks to ask their parents to go see Dune and their parents were already kind of thinking about going, now it's a family thing. And you're not selling one ticket or two tickets. You're selling four, five, six tickets at one time.” Ryan adds, “ How do you find the right partner that's not just the easy partner, but the partner where you're able to find or open up new channels, new demographics, new audiences in a way that feels like there's intentional value being delivered?”</li><li><strong>Create a remake. </strong>Or as Ian says, “Try it again for the first time.” Because the movie <i>Dune</i> that came out in 2021 was a remake of the 1984 movie. Or really it was a retelling of the same story with little regard for the first version. And because of the generational difference between viewers, Ian says, “This [2021 version] was the first interaction with Dune for, I would bet, a massive percentage of the audience that saw this. They never read the books. They didn't watch the first movie.  But for people like your mom, it's like, ‘Hey, try it again for the first time.’ Like, ‘Yeah, I know you saw the old movie. This is nothing like that. Just try it again.” It reframes everyone’s idea of the original story, and gives a totally new experience of it. So make a remake but keep it fresh.</li><li><strong>Throw the party.</strong> Ian says, “ If you make something worth talking about,  throw the party so that the people can talk about it.” That’s what this podcast is all about, getting people to talk about Remarkable content and spreading knowledge of it through word of mouth. He adds, “ If you make content also make the event, make a premiere, make a big deal out of it.” Also because you deserve to celebrate good content and the hard work that went into it.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*” There is no time when somebody is engaging with any facet of your brand or your business in which you shouldn't be representing the perception that you want to drive.  Every one of those is an opportunity to tell your story in a potentially different channel, different way.”</p><p>*”Deliver an authentic experience, and people will pay for it. That idea of like, being intentional, and connecting it with a really authentic value prop, that for Dune, was super real. That large screen format with the premium sound is going to really, really differentiate your experience with the movie.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Ryan Mattison, VP of Corporate Marketing at Cribl</p><p>[0:56] B2B Marketing Lessons from Dune</p><p>[4:11] Marketing at Cribl</p><p>[7:16] The Storytelling Power of Corporate Marketing</p><p>[9:18] Dune: From Book to Blockbuster</p><p>[12:09] Denis Villeneuve's Vision for Dune</p><p>[15:28] Marketing Strategies Behind Dune's Success</p><p>[22:56] Partnership-Driven Marketing Insights</p><p>[27:24] The Challenge of Marketing B2B Products</p><p>[27:46] Lessons from the Dune Movie Marketing</p><p>[28:57] The Role of Mega Stars in Movie Success</p><p>[31:23] The Importance of Authentic Marketing</p><p>[35:32] Building Anticipation and Word of Mouth</p><p>[44:20] The Power of the CEO's Voice</p><p>[48:52] Upcoming Events and Final Thoughts</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattisonryan/">Connect with Ryan on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://cribl.io/">Learn more about Cribl</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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The Dune of 2021 is not the Dune of 1984. Maybe we should say not all “retellings” are created equal. 

Because both movies are based on the 1965 book. But film critic Roger Ebert scathingly called the first one &quot;an incomprehensible, ugly, unstructured, pointless excursion.&quot; Ouch.

The second one - the one we’re talking about today - is a different story. It’s been called “aesthetically perfect,” and the “faithful retelling of a complicated story.” And it won a handful of Academy Awards.

So we’re talking about what makes a great retelling and how to use those lessons in your marketing content. 

With the help of our special guest, VP of Corporate Marketing at Cribl, Ryan Mattison, we also talk about delivering a singular experience, doing partnership-driven marketing, and much more.</itunes:summary>
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The Dune of 2021 is not the Dune of 1984. Maybe we should say not all “retellings” are created equal. 

Because both movies are based on the 1965 book. But film critic Roger Ebert scathingly called the first one &quot;an incomprehensible, ugly, unstructured, pointless excursion.&quot; Ouch.

The second one - the one we’re talking about today - is a different story. It’s been called “aesthetically perfect,” and the “faithful retelling of a complicated story.” And it won a handful of Academy Awards.

So we’re talking about what makes a great retelling and how to use those lessons in your marketing content. 

With the help of our special guest, VP of Corporate Marketing at Cribl, Ryan Mattison, we also talk about delivering a singular experience, doing partnership-driven marketing, and much more.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Everyone loves getting the insider view.</p><p>It’s like getting let in on a secret. There’s an exclusivity to it that’s all too appealing. </p><p>So why not lure your audience in with the chance to be a fly on the wall in your story?</p><p>That’s one of the things we’re talking about today with the help of our special guest, Chief Marketing & Communications Officer at CSG, David Pendery. </p><p>Together, we’re taking marketing lessons from <i>The West Wing</i> including pitting two characters against each other with opposing views, going for the walk-and-talk, and much more.</p><p><strong>About our guest, David Pendery</strong></p><p>David Pendery is an award-winning creative, business-focused enterprise marketing & communications leader with extensive experience building brands and businesses, connecting stakeholder needs to company solutions and driving impactful results for 10-figure and Fortune 500 B2B and B2C organizations. He has more than 20 years of experience elevating the visibility, media sophistication and global internal and external interactions of diverse national and international public and private organizations in a wide variety of industries, representing some of the most well-known B2B and B2C brands.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> The West Wing</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Give the fly-on-the-wall insider view.</strong> Let your audience in on the inside scoop of your story. David says in <i>The West Wing</i>, “ It was like you were a fly on the wall in these super secret conversations, right? The way it was written, I think is what was so successful about it.  You just felt like you were the secret observer and it drew people in.” And Ian adds that “ fly on the wall content is crazy valuable.  You feel like you are intruding on a conversation that you are not invited to. And like, that's incredibly cool for the audience.”</li><li><strong>Pit two characters against each other with opposing views.</strong> It’s an easy formula for a compelling plot, it’s repeatable, and it works every time. Plus you have one of the greatest writers - Aaron Sorkin - using it in his content. Ian says, “ The way that Sorkin wrote the show, is <i>The West Wing</i> happens in the west wing of the White House. So he would repeatedly say to his staff, ‘Our show is at its best when it's one of our characters that we love, they’re disagreeing with another character that we love, and they are on either side of something. And it is happening in the West Wing.’”</li><li><strong>Go for the walk-and-talk.</strong> In <i>The West Wing</i>, a character is often walking down the hallway and other staffers are coming up and updating them or giving them important information on the way. The movement gives the information immediacy and importance. Which are great attributes to lend your content. Ian says, “ I think it's an interesting thing to put your CEO or executive or whoever it is - your persona - and it's a really good way to get video content, right? It's like having them walking and having other people come up to them and jump in and do this. You never see that in B2B, never. You never see that. And it's funny. It's pretty cool.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”The biggest thing is you've got to establish some credibility with the stakeholders. So I think it’s not really something you're going to be able to come in and do on day one, but if you can prove some value, if you can deliver on the results that you've been tasked with delivering, you'll build up this credibility bank and your stakeholders will let you push the envelope a little bit more.  That credibility allows you to be a little bit more experimental, a little bit more agile, and not get too hung up when things don't always work exactly the way you had hoped.”</p><p>*”Have your A players up front, make sure you've got the right people surrounding you. Having the right people in the right seats on the bus, so to speak, I think is super important because you wouldn't have that same sort of beautiful orchestration that you saw with <i>The West Wing </i>if it wasn't for the right blend of talents and personalities and experiences in all the right seats.”</p><p>*”Well, so much B2B marketing is so perfectly staged, right? You've got the perfect talking head and everything's polished and overproduced. You've got the perfect soundtrack and the perfect graphics and everything else. And I think sometimes just getting something a little bit more raw like that walk-and-talk kind of gives you that. It's a little unfiltered. It doesn't have to be perfect. It doesn't have to be the 15th take to get the talking points just right. It's just a real, authentic kind of moment that I think is a lot more endearing. And people are much more interested in something that isn't perfect, cause it's more relatable.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet David Pendery, Chief Marketing & Communications Officer at CSG</p><p>[1:41] Why the West Wing?</p><p>[4:00] The Origins of the West Wing</p><p>[11:52] Marketing Lessons from the West Wing</p><p>[26:24] Embracing Raw and Authentic B2B Marketing</p><p>[26:59] The Importance of Creativity in Marketing</p><p>[28:36] Understanding Customer Needs Through Direct Conversations</p><p>[30:57] Timing and Flexibility in B2B Marketing</p><p>[37:59] The Role of Personal Branding in Company Success</p><p>[43:54] Investing in Content and Brand Strategy</p><p>[47:03] Exciting Trends and Future Plans</p><p>[48:00] Final Thoughts and Advice for CMOs</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidpendery/">Connect with David on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.csgi.com/">Learn more about CSG</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone loves getting the insider view.</p><p>It’s like getting let in on a secret. There’s an exclusivity to it that’s all too appealing. </p><p>So why not lure your audience in with the chance to be a fly on the wall in your story?</p><p>That’s one of the things we’re talking about today with the help of our special guest, Chief Marketing & Communications Officer at CSG, David Pendery. </p><p>Together, we’re taking marketing lessons from <i>The West Wing</i> including pitting two characters against each other with opposing views, going for the walk-and-talk, and much more.</p><p><strong>About our guest, David Pendery</strong></p><p>David Pendery is an award-winning creative, business-focused enterprise marketing & communications leader with extensive experience building brands and businesses, connecting stakeholder needs to company solutions and driving impactful results for 10-figure and Fortune 500 B2B and B2C organizations. He has more than 20 years of experience elevating the visibility, media sophistication and global internal and external interactions of diverse national and international public and private organizations in a wide variety of industries, representing some of the most well-known B2B and B2C brands.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> The West Wing</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Give the fly-on-the-wall insider view.</strong> Let your audience in on the inside scoop of your story. David says in <i>The West Wing</i>, “ It was like you were a fly on the wall in these super secret conversations, right? The way it was written, I think is what was so successful about it.  You just felt like you were the secret observer and it drew people in.” And Ian adds that “ fly on the wall content is crazy valuable.  You feel like you are intruding on a conversation that you are not invited to. And like, that's incredibly cool for the audience.”</li><li><strong>Pit two characters against each other with opposing views.</strong> It’s an easy formula for a compelling plot, it’s repeatable, and it works every time. Plus you have one of the greatest writers - Aaron Sorkin - using it in his content. Ian says, “ The way that Sorkin wrote the show, is <i>The West Wing</i> happens in the west wing of the White House. So he would repeatedly say to his staff, ‘Our show is at its best when it's one of our characters that we love, they’re disagreeing with another character that we love, and they are on either side of something. And it is happening in the West Wing.’”</li><li><strong>Go for the walk-and-talk.</strong> In <i>The West Wing</i>, a character is often walking down the hallway and other staffers are coming up and updating them or giving them important information on the way. The movement gives the information immediacy and importance. Which are great attributes to lend your content. Ian says, “ I think it's an interesting thing to put your CEO or executive or whoever it is - your persona - and it's a really good way to get video content, right? It's like having them walking and having other people come up to them and jump in and do this. You never see that in B2B, never. You never see that. And it's funny. It's pretty cool.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”The biggest thing is you've got to establish some credibility with the stakeholders. So I think it’s not really something you're going to be able to come in and do on day one, but if you can prove some value, if you can deliver on the results that you've been tasked with delivering, you'll build up this credibility bank and your stakeholders will let you push the envelope a little bit more.  That credibility allows you to be a little bit more experimental, a little bit more agile, and not get too hung up when things don't always work exactly the way you had hoped.”</p><p>*”Have your A players up front, make sure you've got the right people surrounding you. Having the right people in the right seats on the bus, so to speak, I think is super important because you wouldn't have that same sort of beautiful orchestration that you saw with <i>The West Wing </i>if it wasn't for the right blend of talents and personalities and experiences in all the right seats.”</p><p>*”Well, so much B2B marketing is so perfectly staged, right? You've got the perfect talking head and everything's polished and overproduced. You've got the perfect soundtrack and the perfect graphics and everything else. And I think sometimes just getting something a little bit more raw like that walk-and-talk kind of gives you that. It's a little unfiltered. It doesn't have to be perfect. It doesn't have to be the 15th take to get the talking points just right. It's just a real, authentic kind of moment that I think is a lot more endearing. And people are much more interested in something that isn't perfect, cause it's more relatable.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet David Pendery, Chief Marketing & Communications Officer at CSG</p><p>[1:41] Why the West Wing?</p><p>[4:00] The Origins of the West Wing</p><p>[11:52] Marketing Lessons from the West Wing</p><p>[26:24] Embracing Raw and Authentic B2B Marketing</p><p>[26:59] The Importance of Creativity in Marketing</p><p>[28:36] Understanding Customer Needs Through Direct Conversations</p><p>[30:57] Timing and Flexibility in B2B Marketing</p><p>[37:59] The Role of Personal Branding in Company Success</p><p>[43:54] Investing in Content and Brand Strategy</p><p>[47:03] Exciting Trends and Future Plans</p><p>[48:00] Final Thoughts and Advice for CMOs</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidpendery/">Connect with David on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.csgi.com/">Learn more about CSG</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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That’s one of the things we’re talking about today with the help of our special guest, Chief Marketing &amp; Communications Officer at CSG, David Pendery. 

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That’s one of the things we’re talking about today with the help of our special guest, Chief Marketing &amp; Communications Officer at CSG, David Pendery. 

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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Every person on your team has strengths and…non-strengths. </p><p>So position them to make the most out of their top skills.</p><p>It’s like how in soccer, you position your top goal-scorer as a forward, not running defense, right? The same is true with marketing. </p><p>In this episode, we’re drawing parallels between soccer and marketing. </p><p>With the help of our special guest, former Director of Brand Strategy, Storytelling & Advocacy at Cisco, Cindy Valladares, we’re taking marketing lessons from the U.S. Women’s National Soccer Team. </p><p>Together, we talk about using your talent the right way, taking calculated risks, and putting fear in the heart of your competitors.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Cindy Valladares</strong></p><p>Cindy Valladares is a marketing executive who recently led brand strategy, storytelling and advocacy for Cisco’s cybersecurity business unit. A product marketer at heart, she lives by the NIHITO (nothing interesting happens in the office) motto. Cindy has been a speaker at various security, risk and privacy conferences in North America, Europe and Latin America, where she focuses on topics that affect the information security industry. She is a regular contributor at the Cisco Secure blog, shares her perspective on Twitter @cindyv, and can also be found on LinkedIn at www.linkedin.com/in/cindyvalladares/. She holds an international MBA from the University of Ottawa in Canada, and a BBA in Marketing and International Business.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>the USWNT:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Take calculated risks.</strong> You have to try new things and take some risks. That’s how you keep your content fresh and find the big successes. Cindy says that when Emma Hayes took over coaching the U.S. Women’s National Team, “she made some very unpopular choices, right? Alex Morgan, who everybody thought was going to be called in the roster, she was left out. And so [Emma] had new creative ideas that she wanted to try, and took some calculated risks. And like we say, nothing tried, nothing gained, and you can see the results.” And a few months later, they won the 2024 Paris Olympics.</li><li><strong>Use your talent the right way.</strong> Match their strengths and skills to the role. And put them on tasks they’ll perform well on. When everyone is doing work they’re good at and that utilizes their strengths, it benefits the whole team. Ian says, “ Part of the Emma Hayes thing is Trinity Rodman flying down the right side of your team is super valuable because she's like one of the best in the world and she's fast and athletic and all that. Having her spam a cross into nobody even though she's good at that too doesn't help your team. That's not a more valuable action. Whereas her trying to take on the defender one on one, if she does win, and now she's driving at the goal with nobody in between her and the goal, that's way more valuable. And like, I think that that's part of what marketing is about, is figuring out what are the more high leverage things that you can do that make a huge difference.”</li><li><strong>Put fear in the heart of your competitors. </strong>Or more like envy. You want your competitors to look at your content and be jealous. Ian says, “ Every team that we played in the Olympics  is absolutely terrified of the front three of our country sprinting after them  with their defenders on their heels. It's like the most terrifying thing in the world is Trinity Rodman sprinting at their backline, right? And I think about this with competitors with your content campaign. Like I talk about the edutainment graph, rated on a scale of one out of 10 educational, one out of 10 entertaining. So rank your content on the graph and before you even plan to make something, is your competitor going to see this and be like, ‘Oh, I'm so jealous, this is great,’ Or is it just something that they're gonna like, ‘All right?’”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”It’s  really important in marketing organizations to lead with a leadership style that creates empathy and allows others to do their best, not a culture of fear.”</p><p>*” That's an important element of a leader, understanding who you have on your team, what motivates and drives them, and how can you create an environment where they can perform and outperform?”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Cindy Valladares, former Director of Brand Strategy, Storytelling & Advocacy at Cisco</p><p>[3:41] History and Achievements of the US Women's National Soccer Team</p><p>[6:38] Equal Pay and Gender Equality Advocacy</p><p>[8:09] Emma Hayes' Impact on the US Women's National Soccer Team</p><p>[13:36] Marketing Lessons from Soccer</p><p>[21:38] Emma Hayes' Coaching Strategies</p><p>[24:25] Recognizing and Utilizing Team Strengths</p><p>[25:17] Leveraging Senior Executives in Content</p><p>[26:49] Maximizing Talent and High-Value Actions</p><p>[29:11] Understanding Your Audience in Content Strategy</p><p>[32:36] Creating Impactful and Entertaining Content</p><p>[35:30] Balancing Brand Awareness and Demand Generation</p><p>[39:27] Favorite Content Campaigns and Their Impact</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/cindyvalladares/">Connect with Cindy on LinkedIn</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every person on your team has strengths and…non-strengths. </p><p>So position them to make the most out of their top skills.</p><p>It’s like how in soccer, you position your top goal-scorer as a forward, not running defense, right? The same is true with marketing. </p><p>In this episode, we’re drawing parallels between soccer and marketing. </p><p>With the help of our special guest, former Director of Brand Strategy, Storytelling & Advocacy at Cisco, Cindy Valladares, we’re taking marketing lessons from the U.S. Women’s National Soccer Team. </p><p>Together, we talk about using your talent the right way, taking calculated risks, and putting fear in the heart of your competitors.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Cindy Valladares</strong></p><p>Cindy Valladares is a marketing executive who recently led brand strategy, storytelling and advocacy for Cisco’s cybersecurity business unit. 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Alex Morgan, who everybody thought was going to be called in the roster, she was left out. And so [Emma] had new creative ideas that she wanted to try, and took some calculated risks. And like we say, nothing tried, nothing gained, and you can see the results.” And a few months later, they won the 2024 Paris Olympics.</li><li><strong>Use your talent the right way.</strong> Match their strengths and skills to the role. And put them on tasks they’ll perform well on. When everyone is doing work they’re good at and that utilizes their strengths, it benefits the whole team. Ian says, “ Part of the Emma Hayes thing is Trinity Rodman flying down the right side of your team is super valuable because she's like one of the best in the world and she's fast and athletic and all that. Having her spam a cross into nobody even though she's good at that too doesn't help your team. That's not a more valuable action. Whereas her trying to take on the defender one on one, if she does win, and now she's driving at the goal with nobody in between her and the goal, that's way more valuable. And like, I think that that's part of what marketing is about, is figuring out what are the more high leverage things that you can do that make a huge difference.”</li><li><strong>Put fear in the heart of your competitors. </strong>Or more like envy. You want your competitors to look at your content and be jealous. Ian says, “ Every team that we played in the Olympics  is absolutely terrified of the front three of our country sprinting after them  with their defenders on their heels. It's like the most terrifying thing in the world is Trinity Rodman sprinting at their backline, right? And I think about this with competitors with your content campaign. Like I talk about the edutainment graph, rated on a scale of one out of 10 educational, one out of 10 entertaining. So rank your content on the graph and before you even plan to make something, is your competitor going to see this and be like, ‘Oh, I'm so jealous, this is great,’ Or is it just something that they're gonna like, ‘All right?’”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”It’s  really important in marketing organizations to lead with a leadership style that creates empathy and allows others to do their best, not a culture of fear.”</p><p>*” That's an important element of a leader, understanding who you have on your team, what motivates and drives them, and how can you create an environment where they can perform and outperform?”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Cindy Valladares, former Director of Brand Strategy, Storytelling & Advocacy at Cisco</p><p>[3:41] History and Achievements of the US Women's National Soccer Team</p><p>[6:38] Equal Pay and Gender Equality Advocacy</p><p>[8:09] Emma Hayes' Impact on the US Women's National Soccer Team</p><p>[13:36] Marketing Lessons from Soccer</p><p>[21:38] Emma Hayes' Coaching Strategies</p><p>[24:25] Recognizing and Utilizing Team Strengths</p><p>[25:17] Leveraging Senior Executives in Content</p><p>[26:49] Maximizing Talent and High-Value Actions</p><p>[29:11] Understanding Your Audience in Content Strategy</p><p>[32:36] Creating Impactful and Entertaining Content</p><p>[35:30] Balancing Brand Awareness and Demand Generation</p><p>[39:27] Favorite Content Campaigns and Their Impact</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/cindyvalladares/">Connect with Cindy on LinkedIn</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. 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In this episode, we’re drawing parallels between soccer and marketing. 

With the help of our special guest, former Director of Brand Strategy, Storytelling &amp; Advocacy at Cisco, Cindy Valladares, we’re taking marketing lessons from the U.S. Women’s National Soccer Team. 

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So position them to make the most out of their top skills.

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In this episode, we’re drawing parallels between soccer and marketing. 

With the help of our special guest, former Director of Brand Strategy, Storytelling &amp; Advocacy at Cisco, Cindy Valladares, we’re taking marketing lessons from the U.S. Women’s National Soccer Team. 

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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Marketing is a serious business. Even when it’s silly.</p><p>See, you still want your silly, funny content to be well planned, well-executed, and well distributed. </p><p>In this episode, we’re talking about how to take your sillies seriously.</p><p>That’s one of the marketing lessons we’re taking from Hamburger Helper’s <i>Watch the Stove</i> Mixtape. </p><p>With the help of our special guest, HiBob CMO Sarah Reynolds, we also talk about how to run little content experiments, listening to your customers, and doubling down on your big wins.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Sarah Reynolds</strong></p><p>Sarah Reynolds (they/them) is Chief Marketing Officer at HiBob. An openly non-binary executive, Sarah writes widely about diversity and inclusion, pay equity, the future of work, and the intersection of bias, ethics, and technology. They love spicy food, and can frequently be found in their garden tending to their many varieties of hot chili pepper plants.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Hamburger Helper:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Take your sillies seriously.</strong> If you’re going to make funny or silly content, it should still be well planned and executed. Otherwise it can come off as cringey and become something you’re not proud of. Ian says, “ [Hamburger Helper] did take the art part of [the mixtape] seriously. And that's when the music is actually good. If it was a stupid a** song that sounded bad, it would not have gone viral. It wouldn't have been popular.”</li><li><strong>Run little content experiments.</strong> Before you go through all the trouble of building out a campaign, tease the idea to your audience and see what catches. Ian says, “ I love the little cheap or free experiments that you can run by just throwing the tweet out there, putting it in an article, putting it in your newsletter, teasing something. So few people tease stuff because they're worried that if they don't do it, that somehow this is going to like disappoint some corporate overlords. But if you tease something and nobody ever asks you about it ever again, you probably shouldn't have made it in the first place. If you tease something and you don't do it and people ask you about it, then you have more reason to go make the thing.” Hamburger Helper’s mascot, Lefty, tweeted about dropping a mixtape and it was the tweet that got the most engagement. So when their marketing team was tasked with doing something unique and different, they knew it was time to make the mixtape.</li><li><strong>Listen to your customers. </strong>If you tease your content ideas and you get lots of engagement, make the content. Give the people what they want. Sarah says, “ The original idea for [the mixtape] was a tweet from multiple years before the mixtape dropped where Lefty made a joke about releasing a mixtape and suddenly it was their most liked tweet of all time. And then subsequently over the intervening years, would make occasional jokes about the mixtapes almost ready and like the customers, the fans are like, ‘Yes, do it. I dare you.’ And I mean at that point, you got years of data saying customers want this, right? Is it our core business? No, but let's see what happens if we give it to them.”</li><li><strong>If you have a big win, make a sequel.</strong> Or even a series. Like Hamburger Helper should have made a second or even third mixtape because this one did so well. Ian says, “ Once you have a hit, just keep winning.  It's so hard in the marketing world to ever give anybody something that they love. And once you do it, you just gotta keep going with it.  I think my biggest takeaway is once you find something good, build it into a series.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*"My first focus was inclusivity and accessibility. Let's make sure that the way that we represent ourselves is really holding true to our corporate values that focus on DEIB, that really speaks to every single person that we want to. Let's make sure that we look at things like color contrast. Let's make sure that we look at things like the typography that we're using and the brand styling that we're using, and we're making it so that it's accessible to all of the people that we want to reach, not just because my queer, disabled, non binary a** told you to do so, but because this is genuinely what we believe as a brand, and this is what we want to put out into the world, and this is what we want people to know about us, we want to lead in this space. So does that come with a very clear, direct ROI number? No, it doesn't. It comes with doing the right thing and being different and making sure that we're prioritizing the things that really matter to us and to our community and to our audience. We're being something for someone in a way that maybe not every brand in this space is thinking about.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Sarah Reynolds, CMO at HiBob</p><p>[1:16] The Origin of the 'Watch the Stove' Mixtape</p><p>[4:03] HiBob: Revolutionizing HR Tech</p><p>[5:44] Creating the ‘Watch the Stove’ Mixtape: From Idea to Execution</p><p>[11:12] The Impact and Legacy of 'Watch the Stove'</p><p>[33:00] Risks and Rewards in Marketing</p><p>[36:18] The Power of Listening to Customers</p><p>[43:31] Embracing Authenticity in Marketing</p><p>[45:28] Content That Provides Value</p><p>[49:43] Balancing Data and Vibes</p><p>[54:55] Final Thoughts and Plugs</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahlizreynolds/">Connect with Sarah on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.hibob.com/">Learn more about HiBob</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marketing is a serious business. Even when it’s silly.</p><p>See, you still want your silly, funny content to be well planned, well-executed, and well distributed. </p><p>In this episode, we’re talking about how to take your sillies seriously.</p><p>That’s one of the marketing lessons we’re taking from Hamburger Helper’s <i>Watch the Stove</i> Mixtape. </p><p>With the help of our special guest, HiBob CMO Sarah Reynolds, we also talk about how to run little content experiments, listening to your customers, and doubling down on your big wins.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Sarah Reynolds</strong></p><p>Sarah Reynolds (they/them) is Chief Marketing Officer at HiBob. An openly non-binary executive, Sarah writes widely about diversity and inclusion, pay equity, the future of work, and the intersection of bias, ethics, and technology. 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Ian says, “ I love the little cheap or free experiments that you can run by just throwing the tweet out there, putting it in an article, putting it in your newsletter, teasing something. So few people tease stuff because they're worried that if they don't do it, that somehow this is going to like disappoint some corporate overlords. But if you tease something and nobody ever asks you about it ever again, you probably shouldn't have made it in the first place. If you tease something and you don't do it and people ask you about it, then you have more reason to go make the thing.” Hamburger Helper’s mascot, Lefty, tweeted about dropping a mixtape and it was the tweet that got the most engagement. So when their marketing team was tasked with doing something unique and different, they knew it was time to make the mixtape.</li><li><strong>Listen to your customers. </strong>If you tease your content ideas and you get lots of engagement, make the content. Give the people what they want. Sarah says, “ The original idea for [the mixtape] was a tweet from multiple years before the mixtape dropped where Lefty made a joke about releasing a mixtape and suddenly it was their most liked tweet of all time. And then subsequently over the intervening years, would make occasional jokes about the mixtapes almost ready and like the customers, the fans are like, ‘Yes, do it. I dare you.’ And I mean at that point, you got years of data saying customers want this, right? Is it our core business? No, but let's see what happens if we give it to them.”</li><li><strong>If you have a big win, make a sequel.</strong> Or even a series. Like Hamburger Helper should have made a second or even third mixtape because this one did so well. Ian says, “ Once you have a hit, just keep winning.  It's so hard in the marketing world to ever give anybody something that they love. And once you do it, you just gotta keep going with it.  I think my biggest takeaway is once you find something good, build it into a series.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*"My first focus was inclusivity and accessibility. Let's make sure that the way that we represent ourselves is really holding true to our corporate values that focus on DEIB, that really speaks to every single person that we want to. Let's make sure that we look at things like color contrast. Let's make sure that we look at things like the typography that we're using and the brand styling that we're using, and we're making it so that it's accessible to all of the people that we want to reach, not just because my queer, disabled, non binary a** told you to do so, but because this is genuinely what we believe as a brand, and this is what we want to put out into the world, and this is what we want people to know about us, we want to lead in this space. So does that come with a very clear, direct ROI number? No, it doesn't. It comes with doing the right thing and being different and making sure that we're prioritizing the things that really matter to us and to our community and to our audience. We're being something for someone in a way that maybe not every brand in this space is thinking about.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Sarah Reynolds, CMO at HiBob</p><p>[1:16] The Origin of the 'Watch the Stove' Mixtape</p><p>[4:03] HiBob: Revolutionizing HR Tech</p><p>[5:44] Creating the ‘Watch the Stove’ Mixtape: From Idea to Execution</p><p>[11:12] The Impact and Legacy of 'Watch the Stove'</p><p>[33:00] Risks and Rewards in Marketing</p><p>[36:18] The Power of Listening to Customers</p><p>[43:31] Embracing Authenticity in Marketing</p><p>[45:28] Content That Provides Value</p><p>[49:43] Balancing Data and Vibes</p><p>[54:55] Final Thoughts and Plugs</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahlizreynolds/">Connect with Sarah on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.hibob.com/">Learn more about HiBob</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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That’s one of the marketing lessons we’re taking from Hamburger Helper’s Watch the Stove Mixtape. 

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That’s one of the marketing lessons we’re taking from Hamburger Helper’s Watch the Stove Mixtape. 

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      <description><![CDATA[<p>How are you celebrating your hero product? Better yet, how are you activating your audience to celebrate your hero product?</p><p>7-Eleven has a lot to teach us about that with their Bring Your Own Cup Day. </p><p>If you’ve never taken part, they encourage customers to bring in a vessel of choice to fill with Slurpee.</p><p>They’ve seen people bring in cowboy hats, kiddie pools, even a prosthetic leg, and fill them to the brim with that slushy, cold, refreshing fizzy iconic drink.</p><p>And customers are posting about it. It’s ALL over social media. </p><p>Having your customers post to their own social media about your product is just about any marketer’s dream.</p><p>So let’s talk about how to do it! In this episode, we’re talking about marketing lessons from 7-Eleven’s Bring Your Own Cup Day.</p><p>With the help of our special guest, Chief Revenue Officer & Head of Marketing at Black Crow AI, JoAnn Martin, we talk about activating your community around your hero product, leaving it to the internet, and increasing the value of your engagement with customers.</p><p><strong>About our guest, JoAnn Martin</strong></p><p>JoAnn Martin is Chief Revenue Officer & Head of Marketing at Black Crow AI. Prior to joining the company in November 2023, she served as VP of Marketing at Electric. She has also held marketing leadership roles at Searchspring, Hanzo and Provenir. She serves as an advisor to UserGems.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Bring Your Own Cup Day:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Activate your community around your hero product. </strong>Create opportunities for your audience to celebrate your core product. JoAnn says, “ It's finding the product and the fit with the market and figuring out how you put that in front of the right customer, which is really foundationally strategic marketing.  And that gives you great opportunities to have those celebrations or to create those experiences.” And Ian says, “It’s important to have a day,” like 7-Eleven’s Bring Your Own Cup Day, which celebrates their hero product, the Slurpee, by having customers bring in their own vessel of choice. It’s silly and fun and highlights the Slurpee as an iconic product.</li><li><strong>Leave it to the internet.</strong> Ask your audience online for input on your marketing. For instance, have them name a product, or get ideas for your next campaign. JoAnn says, “ When you leave things to the internet, great things can happen. But also it can go wheels off very fast. But that's part of the beauty of it, right? Is the wheels off-ness, is why it's novel and fun and you feel part of something. So you never know where it's going to go.” So maybe put some limits around what you ask for, but it’s a resource ready to be tapped into.</li><li><strong>Increase the value of your engagement with customers. </strong>Think about diversifying your offerings within the same vertical or to appeal to the same target buyer.  JoAnn says, “A lot of companies struggle with, ‘How do we find something else that increases the value of our engagement with a customer?’ Or ‘How do we build in an upsell strategy with our B2B SaaS company?’ You've launched a core product for your customers. And customers love that core product. But as you grow as a company, you need to be able to develop more value for them. And you need to be able to develop more value to broaden your addressable market. And one of the learnings I take away is that they went and found that value. And for us as B2B marketers, maybe we can be a little more creative about the way that we find that additional value we can bring to our customers all the time.” Like 7-Eleven was already appealing to kids with their penny candy and video games. Add on to that an option for sugar-caffeine-fizz fix and the Slurpee was bound to become a hit too.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*” How do I better partner with my product teammates? What's this Product-Marketing relationship? How do we get away from Product builds a thing and throws it all over the wall and Marketing figures out how to talk about it?’ And it's a challenge. And I think this is a great example that those two disciplines are actually very tightly intertwined. And as marketers and product leaders and startups, we have to figure out how we're coming together to figure out what is that thing that celebrates our core product? What is the core product we put in front of a customer that has great fit for that customer and how do we figure out how to talk about it with them?”</p><p>*” The concept of really tightly intertwining your product and how your customers experience that product and how you talk about it is really inspiring.”</p><p>*” Great companies lean into the kind of messy pieces, but you have to be willing to lean into the kind of absurd, messy parts of the business.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet JoAnn Martin, Chief Revenue Officer & Head of Marketing at Black Crow AI</p><p>[2:49] The Concept and Impact of BYOC Day</p><p>[5:50] The Backstory Behind Slurpees</p><p>[11:24] Marketing Strategies and Customer Engagement</p><p>[15:09] Innovative Marketing and Product Development</p><p>[28:32] Upcoming Exciting Projects at Black Crow AI</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joannmmartin/">Connect with JoAnn on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.blackcrow.ai/get-a-demo?&utm_campaign=AO%20-%20LP%20-%20PDSRCH%20-%20Google%20-%202024-02-22%20-%20Directive%20DG%20-%20Paid%20Media%20LP&utm_medium=Paid-Search&utm_source=Google&campaign_id=701PD000006keSp&campaign_member_status=Converted&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAAprs9BCV2wvgpJptgr_Xt8MZbGm4i&gclid=Cj0KCQiA0--6BhCBARIsADYqyL9m1udM8I2mzDLUejDa96VBXCH81WB3KjjgPX552KIhyxcwlYn6jxYaAlPBEALw_wcB">Learn more about Black Crow AI</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How are you celebrating your hero product? Better yet, how are you activating your audience to celebrate your hero product?</p><p>7-Eleven has a lot to teach us about that with their Bring Your Own Cup Day. </p><p>If you’ve never taken part, they encourage customers to bring in a vessel of choice to fill with Slurpee.</p><p>They’ve seen people bring in cowboy hats, kiddie pools, even a prosthetic leg, and fill them to the brim with that slushy, cold, refreshing fizzy iconic drink.</p><p>And customers are posting about it. It’s ALL over social media. </p><p>Having your customers post to their own social media about your product is just about any marketer’s dream.</p><p>So let’s talk about how to do it! In this episode, we’re talking about marketing lessons from 7-Eleven’s Bring Your Own Cup Day.</p><p>With the help of our special guest, Chief Revenue Officer & Head of Marketing at Black Crow AI, JoAnn Martin, we talk about activating your community around your hero product, leaving it to the internet, and increasing the value of your engagement with customers.</p><p><strong>About our guest, JoAnn Martin</strong></p><p>JoAnn Martin is Chief Revenue Officer & Head of Marketing at Black Crow AI. Prior to joining the company in November 2023, she served as VP of Marketing at Electric. She has also held marketing leadership roles at Searchspring, Hanzo and Provenir. She serves as an advisor to UserGems.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Bring Your Own Cup Day:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Activate your community around your hero product. </strong>Create opportunities for your audience to celebrate your core product. JoAnn says, “ It's finding the product and the fit with the market and figuring out how you put that in front of the right customer, which is really foundationally strategic marketing.  And that gives you great opportunities to have those celebrations or to create those experiences.” And Ian says, “It’s important to have a day,” like 7-Eleven’s Bring Your Own Cup Day, which celebrates their hero product, the Slurpee, by having customers bring in their own vessel of choice. It’s silly and fun and highlights the Slurpee as an iconic product.</li><li><strong>Leave it to the internet.</strong> Ask your audience online for input on your marketing. For instance, have them name a product, or get ideas for your next campaign. JoAnn says, “ When you leave things to the internet, great things can happen. But also it can go wheels off very fast. But that's part of the beauty of it, right? Is the wheels off-ness, is why it's novel and fun and you feel part of something. So you never know where it's going to go.” So maybe put some limits around what you ask for, but it’s a resource ready to be tapped into.</li><li><strong>Increase the value of your engagement with customers. </strong>Think about diversifying your offerings within the same vertical or to appeal to the same target buyer.  JoAnn says, “A lot of companies struggle with, ‘How do we find something else that increases the value of our engagement with a customer?’ Or ‘How do we build in an upsell strategy with our B2B SaaS company?’ You've launched a core product for your customers. And customers love that core product. But as you grow as a company, you need to be able to develop more value for them. And you need to be able to develop more value to broaden your addressable market. And one of the learnings I take away is that they went and found that value. And for us as B2B marketers, maybe we can be a little more creative about the way that we find that additional value we can bring to our customers all the time.” Like 7-Eleven was already appealing to kids with their penny candy and video games. Add on to that an option for sugar-caffeine-fizz fix and the Slurpee was bound to become a hit too.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*” How do I better partner with my product teammates? What's this Product-Marketing relationship? How do we get away from Product builds a thing and throws it all over the wall and Marketing figures out how to talk about it?’ And it's a challenge. And I think this is a great example that those two disciplines are actually very tightly intertwined. And as marketers and product leaders and startups, we have to figure out how we're coming together to figure out what is that thing that celebrates our core product? What is the core product we put in front of a customer that has great fit for that customer and how do we figure out how to talk about it with them?”</p><p>*” The concept of really tightly intertwining your product and how your customers experience that product and how you talk about it is really inspiring.”</p><p>*” Great companies lean into the kind of messy pieces, but you have to be willing to lean into the kind of absurd, messy parts of the business.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet JoAnn Martin, Chief Revenue Officer & Head of Marketing at Black Crow AI</p><p>[2:49] The Concept and Impact of BYOC Day</p><p>[5:50] The Backstory Behind Slurpees</p><p>[11:24] Marketing Strategies and Customer Engagement</p><p>[15:09] Innovative Marketing and Product Development</p><p>[28:32] Upcoming Exciting Projects at Black Crow AI</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joannmmartin/">Connect with JoAnn on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.blackcrow.ai/get-a-demo?&utm_campaign=AO%20-%20LP%20-%20PDSRCH%20-%20Google%20-%202024-02-22%20-%20Directive%20DG%20-%20Paid%20Media%20LP&utm_medium=Paid-Search&utm_source=Google&campaign_id=701PD000006keSp&campaign_member_status=Converted&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAAprs9BCV2wvgpJptgr_Xt8MZbGm4i&gclid=Cj0KCQiA0--6BhCBARIsADYqyL9m1udM8I2mzDLUejDa96VBXCH81WB3KjjgPX552KIhyxcwlYn6jxYaAlPBEALw_wcB">Learn more about Black Crow AI</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>How are you celebrating your hero product? Better yet, how are you activating your audience to celebrate your hero product?

7-Eleven has a lot to teach us about that with their Bring Your Own Cup Day. 

If you’ve never taken part, they encourage customers to bring in a vessel of choice to fill with Slurpee.

They’ve seen people bring in cowboy hats, kiddie pools, even a prosthetic leg, and fill them to the brim with that slushy, cold, refreshing fizzy iconic drink.

And customers are posting about it. It’s ALL over social media. 

Having your customers post to their own social media about your product is just about any marketer’s dream.

So let’s talk about how to do it! In this episode, we’re talking about marketing lessons from 7-Eleven’s Bring Your Own Cup Day.

With the help of our special guest, Chief Revenue Officer &amp; Head of Marketing at Black Crow AI, JoAnn Martin, we talk about activating your community around your hero product, leaving it to the internet, and increasing the value of your engagement with customers.</itunes:summary>
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7-Eleven has a lot to teach us about that with their Bring Your Own Cup Day. 

If you’ve never taken part, they encourage customers to bring in a vessel of choice to fill with Slurpee.

They’ve seen people bring in cowboy hats, kiddie pools, even a prosthetic leg, and fill them to the brim with that slushy, cold, refreshing fizzy iconic drink.

And customers are posting about it. It’s ALL over social media. 

Having your customers post to their own social media about your product is just about any marketer’s dream.

So let’s talk about how to do it! In this episode, we’re talking about marketing lessons from 7-Eleven’s Bring Your Own Cup Day.

With the help of our special guest, Chief Revenue Officer &amp; Head of Marketing at Black Crow AI, JoAnn Martin, we talk about activating your community around your hero product, leaving it to the internet, and increasing the value of your engagement with customers.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>The role of the marketer is changing. </p><p>Scott Galloway, aka Prof G, says that to be successful today, marketers have to act as “coaches, advisors and strategists” to their company.</p><p>That’s what we’re talking about in today’s episode with the help of our special guest, VP of Marketing & Corporate Strategy at Verbit, Michael Rosman.</p><p>Together, we talk about finding the right channel, being bold, and avoiding clickbait.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Michael Rosman</strong></p><p>Michael Rosman is VP of Marketing & Corporate Strategy at Verbit, having joined the company in April 2022. He has extensive work experience in Corporate strategy and Marketing. Prior to this, he worked at Amdocs, where he held various roles including Customer Business Executive, Director of Corporate Strategy, and Manager of Corporate Strategy from May 2016 to April 2022.</p><p>Before joining Amdocs, Michael worked at Degania Medical as the Head of Strategy, Business Development & Innovation from May 2015 to May 2016. Michael also has experience at Biometrix, where he served as the Head of Strategic Planning and subsequently as the Interim COO from November 2011 to May 2015.</p><p>Michael started his career at Tefen Management Consulting in July 2007, where he worked as a Senior Consultant for over four years. During his time at Tefen, he successfully led cross-functional and international teams on various projects in industries such as pharmaceuticals, automotive, chemicals, and healthcare.</p><p>Michael Rosman completed his Bachelor of Science in Industrial Engineering from Tel Aviv University between the years 2004 and 2008. Later, between 2011 and 2012, he pursued an Executive Master of Business Administration (EMBA) from The Hebrew University of Jerusalem.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Scott Galloway:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Find the right channel. </strong>Test different channels to see which one your content achieves the best reach and resonance on. People on LinkedIn might engage with your content way more than on your blog. Use that to your advantage by creating more content gauged for your LinkedIn audience. Michael says, “Finding the right channel is a big takeaway for me. So I know everybody has the standard channels of paid ads and events and SEO and whatever is, but find a channel that maximizes your impact. Figure out your puzzle. Figure out who you are and something that might be unique [to you]. Maybe it's a channel that doesn't exist for anybody else.”</li><li><strong>Be bold.</strong> Know what you stand for and express it clearly and without fear of losing your audience. Michael says, “Go all in on something. [Scott Galloway] has so much conviction and so much belief in doing what he does, he can really go all out.” When you express your message authentically and with clarity, your content will resonate with your intended audience.</li><li><strong>Avoid clickbait.</strong> Make sure the meat of your content is valuable to your audience. Don’t just give it all away in the title. Michael says, ”So many times, people have a hot take-y headline to lure you, to get you in, but then there's nothing else. All of the content that you wanted to consume is in the title and everything else is meaningless. [But] Whenever I tune in [to one of Scott Galloway’s podcasts], I always feel like it was worth my time. I came in, I came for value, and it consistently delivers value. It's always interesting. There's always substance behind the title.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”I really think about niching down, and about the shorts, shows and moonshots sort of positioning. You want to create stuff that your people can tap into for a minute or two. You want to create stuff that they can subscribe to and get like an hour a week. And then you want stuff that's definitive, could be viral and bingeworthy. If you have 15 different personas that you're selling to, if you could create a single bingeable asset for those 15 personas, that's far more valuable than creating 150 pieces of content for those 15 things.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”The world changes every minute. What was published a week ago is now no longer potentially relevant. So it's your job as a brand to reach forward into the future and say, ‘I think that based on what we know, what we're saying on our proprietary information and what our customers are saying, I think that this is where the world is going.” -  Ian Faison</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Michael Rosman, VP of Marketing & Corporate Strategy at Verbit.ai</p><p>[2:19] Verbit's Marketing and Customer Insights</p><p>[7:29] Scott Galloway's Marketing Philosophy</p><p>[10:42] The Journey and Impact of Scott Galloway</p><p>[19:31] The Power of Serialized Content</p><p>[24:52] Marketing Takeaways from Prof G</p><p>[29:42] The Value of Definitive Works in Content</p><p>[31:07] Challenges in Content Creation for Multiple Personas</p><p>[32:04] The Importance of Niching Down and Binge-Worthy Content</p><p>[39:39] Balancing Quality, Speed, and Cost in Video Production</p><p>[42:16] The Future of AI in Content Creation</p><p>[45:48] Verbit's Content Strategy</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-rosman/">Connect with Michael on Linkedin</a></p><p><a href="http://verbit.ai/">Learn more about Verbit.ai</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Ian Faison, Meredith Gooderham, Michael Rosman, Scott Goodrich)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The role of the marketer is changing. </p><p>Scott Galloway, aka Prof G, says that to be successful today, marketers have to act as “coaches, advisors and strategists” to their company.</p><p>That’s what we’re talking about in today’s episode with the help of our special guest, VP of Marketing & Corporate Strategy at Verbit, Michael Rosman.</p><p>Together, we talk about finding the right channel, being bold, and avoiding clickbait.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Michael Rosman</strong></p><p>Michael Rosman is VP of Marketing & Corporate Strategy at Verbit, having joined the company in April 2022. He has extensive work experience in Corporate strategy and Marketing. Prior to this, he worked at Amdocs, where he held various roles including Customer Business Executive, Director of Corporate Strategy, and Manager of Corporate Strategy from May 2016 to April 2022.</p><p>Before joining Amdocs, Michael worked at Degania Medical as the Head of Strategy, Business Development & Innovation from May 2015 to May 2016. Michael also has experience at Biometrix, where he served as the Head of Strategic Planning and subsequently as the Interim COO from November 2011 to May 2015.</p><p>Michael started his career at Tefen Management Consulting in July 2007, where he worked as a Senior Consultant for over four years. During his time at Tefen, he successfully led cross-functional and international teams on various projects in industries such as pharmaceuticals, automotive, chemicals, and healthcare.</p><p>Michael Rosman completed his Bachelor of Science in Industrial Engineering from Tel Aviv University between the years 2004 and 2008. Later, between 2011 and 2012, he pursued an Executive Master of Business Administration (EMBA) from The Hebrew University of Jerusalem.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Scott Galloway:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Find the right channel. </strong>Test different channels to see which one your content achieves the best reach and resonance on. People on LinkedIn might engage with your content way more than on your blog. Use that to your advantage by creating more content gauged for your LinkedIn audience. Michael says, “Finding the right channel is a big takeaway for me. So I know everybody has the standard channels of paid ads and events and SEO and whatever is, but find a channel that maximizes your impact. Figure out your puzzle. Figure out who you are and something that might be unique [to you]. Maybe it's a channel that doesn't exist for anybody else.”</li><li><strong>Be bold.</strong> Know what you stand for and express it clearly and without fear of losing your audience. Michael says, “Go all in on something. [Scott Galloway] has so much conviction and so much belief in doing what he does, he can really go all out.” When you express your message authentically and with clarity, your content will resonate with your intended audience.</li><li><strong>Avoid clickbait.</strong> Make sure the meat of your content is valuable to your audience. Don’t just give it all away in the title. Michael says, ”So many times, people have a hot take-y headline to lure you, to get you in, but then there's nothing else. All of the content that you wanted to consume is in the title and everything else is meaningless. [But] Whenever I tune in [to one of Scott Galloway’s podcasts], I always feel like it was worth my time. I came in, I came for value, and it consistently delivers value. It's always interesting. There's always substance behind the title.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”I really think about niching down, and about the shorts, shows and moonshots sort of positioning. You want to create stuff that your people can tap into for a minute or two. You want to create stuff that they can subscribe to and get like an hour a week. And then you want stuff that's definitive, could be viral and bingeworthy. If you have 15 different personas that you're selling to, if you could create a single bingeable asset for those 15 personas, that's far more valuable than creating 150 pieces of content for those 15 things.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”The world changes every minute. What was published a week ago is now no longer potentially relevant. So it's your job as a brand to reach forward into the future and say, ‘I think that based on what we know, what we're saying on our proprietary information and what our customers are saying, I think that this is where the world is going.” -  Ian Faison</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Michael Rosman, VP of Marketing & Corporate Strategy at Verbit.ai</p><p>[2:19] Verbit's Marketing and Customer Insights</p><p>[7:29] Scott Galloway's Marketing Philosophy</p><p>[10:42] The Journey and Impact of Scott Galloway</p><p>[19:31] The Power of Serialized Content</p><p>[24:52] Marketing Takeaways from Prof G</p><p>[29:42] The Value of Definitive Works in Content</p><p>[31:07] Challenges in Content Creation for Multiple Personas</p><p>[32:04] The Importance of Niching Down and Binge-Worthy Content</p><p>[39:39] Balancing Quality, Speed, and Cost in Video Production</p><p>[42:16] The Future of AI in Content Creation</p><p>[45:48] Verbit's Content Strategy</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-rosman/">Connect with Michael on Linkedin</a></p><p><a href="http://verbit.ai/">Learn more about Verbit.ai</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>The marketing terrain is rough out there. In many ways, traversing the roots, rocks and mud of extreme trail running is like navigating the shifting marketing landscape.</p><p>Both demand endurance, adaptability and a strategic mindset. Those are a few of the things we’re talking about today. </p><p>In this episode, we’re taking marketing inspiration from extreme trail running with the help of our special guest, DeepL CMO Steve Rotter.</p><p>Together, we talk about being agile, stepping where others have stepped, how to plot your own route, and aiming for progress over perfection.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Steve Rotter</strong></p><p>Steve Rotter, an entrepreneur, evangelist, and author, brings over two decades of tech marketing leadership experience to his role as CMO at DeepL. With a track record as a two-time founder with two M&A deals and three unicorns under his belt, Steve is deeply passionate about innovative marketing, AI, and brand building. Prior to DeepL, Steve served as CMO of FourKites, where he spearheaded remarkable growth and revenue increases through targeted account-based marketing and PLG strategies, serving industry titans like Coke, Walmart, and Ford. His expertise extends to CMO roles at OutSystems and Acrolinx, where he drove unicorn growth, established category leadership, and facilitated successful acquisitions. He's also held leading tech-industry marketing positions at Adobe, Motorola, and Brightcove.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Extreme Trail Running:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Agility is key. </strong>Be on the lookout for disruptions, like changes in buying pattern, that mean you may have to change course. Steve says he was out running “and we had a couple of days of rain because of the recent hurricane. And all of a sudden a trail that was normally a certain way had about a 10 foot river running through it, and you had to cross it and not try not to get too wet and fall over. And the course that you thought was one way is different.” This is true with marketing as well. The landscape is always changing. You have to adapt to what’s in front of you to keep going.</li><li><strong>Step where others have stepped.</strong> If you’ve seen others have success with a particular marketing strategy, try it. Use their success to your advantage. Ian says, “If you have somebody's footprints right there in front of you, you can just stay right in their footprints.” Like in extreme trail running, you know stepping in the same place as the person in front of you is a safe bet.</li><li><strong>When there is no path, slow down </strong><i><strong>just enough</strong></i><strong> to plan your route. </strong>But don’t take too long to do it. Ian says, “There's this balance of speed versus slowing down to plan your route. And I think that like a lot of times, in my opinion, B2B marketing teams slow down and plan way too much. And they're way overly concerned with the perfect plan rather than running. At the end of the day, you have to move. You have to keep moving. So many people are just crippled by indecision.”</li><li><strong>Progress over perfection.</strong> Don’t wait for perfect data to make great content. Use what information you have to move forward. Steve says, “In many cases, you have very data-driven businesses and by definition, marketing has become almost a data-driven skill set that has to be present. But in many ways, it's that analysis paralysis that slows them down because they're waiting for perfect data. We can't wait for perfection. We have to show progress.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”I think that's actually a really healthy discipline for marketing teams, is not just to be on that hamster wheel all the time, but to take some time out and say, ‘Look, what do we really want to do? What do we want to say? What's our message? What's our story? What's our creative angle?’ And rarely do you achieve that in moments of extreme distraction, right? It's that focus time that kind of drives those light bulb moments.”</p><p>*”A leadership approach that is acceptable has a tolerance and there's no fear of failure. If you have marketers that are afraid, like if they make a mistake, they're going to get yelled at or fired, then of course they're going to take time because they're going to just wait for perfect. Whereas if you build a culture in your marketing team around speed, velocity, and learning from your mistakes, then you got a good recipe.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Steve Rotter, CMO at DeepL</p><p>[1:48] The Connection Between Trail Running and Marketing</p><p>[6:42] Psychology and Support in Extreme Trail Racing</p><p>[12:54] Preparation and Training for Trail Running</p><p>[16:56] Marketing Strategies and Team Dynamics</p><p>[22:15] Balancing Speed and Planning in B2B Marketing</p><p>[23:55] Overcoming Analysis Paralysis</p><p>[24:24] The Importance of a Fearless Marketing Culture</p><p>[25:05] Navigating Unpredictable Terrain</p><p>[29:12] The Little Things in Marketing</p><p>[31:46] Educating the Market on AI</p><p>[34:37] Leveraging Customer Stories</p><p>[37:54] Advice for CMOs on Content Strategy</p><p>[40:04] Uncovering Hidden Stories</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/steverotter/">Connect with Steve on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.deepl.com/en/translatorhttps://www.deepl.com/en/translator">Learn more about DeepL</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The marketing terrain is rough out there. In many ways, traversing the roots, rocks and mud of extreme trail running is like navigating the shifting marketing landscape.</p><p>Both demand endurance, adaptability and a strategic mindset. Those are a few of the things we’re talking about today. </p><p>In this episode, we’re taking marketing inspiration from extreme trail running with the help of our special guest, DeepL CMO Steve Rotter.</p><p>Together, we talk about being agile, stepping where others have stepped, how to plot your own route, and aiming for progress over perfection.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Steve Rotter</strong></p><p>Steve Rotter, an entrepreneur, evangelist, and author, brings over two decades of tech marketing leadership experience to his role as CMO at DeepL. With a track record as a two-time founder with two M&A deals and three unicorns under his belt, Steve is deeply passionate about innovative marketing, AI, and brand building. Prior to DeepL, Steve served as CMO of FourKites, where he spearheaded remarkable growth and revenue increases through targeted account-based marketing and PLG strategies, serving industry titans like Coke, Walmart, and Ford. His expertise extends to CMO roles at OutSystems and Acrolinx, where he drove unicorn growth, established category leadership, and facilitated successful acquisitions. He's also held leading tech-industry marketing positions at Adobe, Motorola, and Brightcove.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Extreme Trail Running:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Agility is key. </strong>Be on the lookout for disruptions, like changes in buying pattern, that mean you may have to change course. Steve says he was out running “and we had a couple of days of rain because of the recent hurricane. And all of a sudden a trail that was normally a certain way had about a 10 foot river running through it, and you had to cross it and not try not to get too wet and fall over. And the course that you thought was one way is different.” This is true with marketing as well. The landscape is always changing. You have to adapt to what’s in front of you to keep going.</li><li><strong>Step where others have stepped.</strong> If you’ve seen others have success with a particular marketing strategy, try it. Use their success to your advantage. Ian says, “If you have somebody's footprints right there in front of you, you can just stay right in their footprints.” Like in extreme trail running, you know stepping in the same place as the person in front of you is a safe bet.</li><li><strong>When there is no path, slow down </strong><i><strong>just enough</strong></i><strong> to plan your route. </strong>But don’t take too long to do it. Ian says, “There's this balance of speed versus slowing down to plan your route. And I think that like a lot of times, in my opinion, B2B marketing teams slow down and plan way too much. And they're way overly concerned with the perfect plan rather than running. At the end of the day, you have to move. You have to keep moving. So many people are just crippled by indecision.”</li><li><strong>Progress over perfection.</strong> Don’t wait for perfect data to make great content. Use what information you have to move forward. Steve says, “In many cases, you have very data-driven businesses and by definition, marketing has become almost a data-driven skill set that has to be present. But in many ways, it's that analysis paralysis that slows them down because they're waiting for perfect data. We can't wait for perfection. We have to show progress.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”I think that's actually a really healthy discipline for marketing teams, is not just to be on that hamster wheel all the time, but to take some time out and say, ‘Look, what do we really want to do? What do we want to say? What's our message? What's our story? What's our creative angle?’ And rarely do you achieve that in moments of extreme distraction, right? It's that focus time that kind of drives those light bulb moments.”</p><p>*”A leadership approach that is acceptable has a tolerance and there's no fear of failure. If you have marketers that are afraid, like if they make a mistake, they're going to get yelled at or fired, then of course they're going to take time because they're going to just wait for perfect. Whereas if you build a culture in your marketing team around speed, velocity, and learning from your mistakes, then you got a good recipe.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Steve Rotter, CMO at DeepL</p><p>[1:48] The Connection Between Trail Running and Marketing</p><p>[6:42] Psychology and Support in Extreme Trail Racing</p><p>[12:54] Preparation and Training for Trail Running</p><p>[16:56] Marketing Strategies and Team Dynamics</p><p>[22:15] Balancing Speed and Planning in B2B Marketing</p><p>[23:55] Overcoming Analysis Paralysis</p><p>[24:24] The Importance of a Fearless Marketing Culture</p><p>[25:05] Navigating Unpredictable Terrain</p><p>[29:12] The Little Things in Marketing</p><p>[31:46] Educating the Market on AI</p><p>[34:37] Leveraging Customer Stories</p><p>[37:54] Advice for CMOs on Content Strategy</p><p>[40:04] Uncovering Hidden Stories</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/steverotter/">Connect with Steve on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.deepl.com/en/translatorhttps://www.deepl.com/en/translator">Learn more about DeepL</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>A three-tier showstopper cake may have beautiful pipework and neatly done icing, but if it’s overbaked and dry on the inside, it’s not a good cake.</p><p>The same is true for marketing. If it has no message but it’s beautiful, it’s not good marketing. </p><p>Focusing on substance over style is one of the many lessons we’re taking from <i>The Great British Baking Show</i> in this episode.</p><p>Together with the help of our special guest, VP of Corporate Marketing at Trellix, Sara Aiello, we talk about being brand classy, going for substance over style, and trusting your gut.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Sara Aiello</strong></p><p>Sara drives impactful brand and communication initiatives that inspire, inform, and elevate global businesses. At Trellix, she led the brand launch of Trellix from FireEye and McAfee Enterprise. Previously, as Head of Growth & Engagement for Amazon’s large item business, she accelerated business growth and customer engagement. At BlackBerry, as Vice President of Field Marketing, Sara led global marketing and sales enablement teams, enhancing the company’s technology recognition. During her tenure at Cisco, she spearheaded the security customer experience practice, significantly advancing customer adoption. She also led the successful marketing strategy for a billion-dollar service rebrand. As Director of the Executive Briefing Center for Cybersecurity at The Boeing Company, Sara’s expertise in customer experience played a pivotal role in securing critical contracts.</p><p>Sara holds a Master of International Business from Seattle University and a Bachelor of Science from Clarkson University.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> The Great British Baking Show</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Be brand classy.</strong> Create content that has integrity and stands proudly for your brand. Think about making something that’s evergreen instead of trendy or reactive. Sara says, “You can never go wrong with being brand classy. Something that lives on, endures. Sometimes you'll want to take a quick hit at a competitor or something like that, but that's not going to age well. And so always be kind of brand classy in what you do.”</li><li><strong>Go for substance over style.</strong> Every so often in <i>The Great British Baking Show</i>, a contestant will create a beautiful confection that doesn’t taste as good as it looks. That’s when Paul Hollywood says, “Style over substance.” In content, you want to make something that has meaning while also being visually attractive. So always think about your message first before focusing on the beauty of it. Sara says, “You have to actually know what you want to say first before you start thinking about how beautiful or whimsical you want it to look.”</li><li><strong>Trust your gut.</strong> Tune in to what feels right and rings true to your brand. In <i>The Great British Baking Show</i>, contestants have to navigate the technical challenge often based on their gut alone, having to make a cake based on directions like, “Make a genoise sponge.” You may not always have all the information in marketing either, but Sara says, “Be comfortable with not having all your information.” Trust that your gut will lead you in the right direction.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”One thing we haven't hit on is the storytelling aspect. You really identify and make memories with the bakers and the way that the show tells their backstory. And so you feel really connected. And I think that marketers should remember the power of storytelling. A lot of times, we want to go into stats and figures, but that's really not going to engage our emotional side of our brain, which is what we need to be persuaded.”</p><p>*”ROI, marketers love to talk about this. I think it really comes down to setting clear goals. A lot of times, especially when it comes on the brand side as opposed to the demand side of marketing, it isn't super easy to see and have metrics, so it's really important to set clear goals from the start. So then you can see if you're succeeding or not.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Sara Aiello, VP of Corporate Marketing at Trellix</p><p>[1:00] B2B Marketing Lessons from <i>The Great British Baking Show</i></p><p>[5:10] Behind the Scenes of <i>The Great British Baking Show</i></p><p>[11:11] Relating <i>The Great British Baking Show</i> to Marketing</p><p>[17:52] The Importance of Visuals and Positivity in Marketing</p><p>[23:24] The Human Element in B2B Marketing</p><p>[25:46] The Power of Storytelling in Marketing</p><p>[34:25] Building the Trellix Brand</p><p>[38:04] Engaging Content Strategies</p><p>[46:35] Final Thoughts and Advice for Marketing Leaders</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarajaiello/">Connect with Sara on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.trellix.com/">Learn more about Trellix</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. 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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A three-tier showstopper cake may have beautiful pipework and neatly done icing, but if it’s overbaked and dry on the inside, it’s not a good cake.</p><p>The same is true for marketing. If it has no message but it’s beautiful, it’s not good marketing. </p><p>Focusing on substance over style is one of the many lessons we’re taking from <i>The Great British Baking Show</i> in this episode.</p><p>Together with the help of our special guest, VP of Corporate Marketing at Trellix, Sara Aiello, we talk about being brand classy, going for substance over style, and trusting your gut.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Sara Aiello</strong></p><p>Sara drives impactful brand and communication initiatives that inspire, inform, and elevate global businesses. At Trellix, she led the brand launch of Trellix from FireEye and McAfee Enterprise. 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As Director of the Executive Briefing Center for Cybersecurity at The Boeing Company, Sara’s expertise in customer experience played a pivotal role in securing critical contracts.</p><p>Sara holds a Master of International Business from Seattle University and a Bachelor of Science from Clarkson University.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> The Great British Baking Show</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Be brand classy.</strong> Create content that has integrity and stands proudly for your brand. Think about making something that’s evergreen instead of trendy or reactive. Sara says, “You can never go wrong with being brand classy. Something that lives on, endures. Sometimes you'll want to take a quick hit at a competitor or something like that, but that's not going to age well. And so always be kind of brand classy in what you do.”</li><li><strong>Go for substance over style.</strong> Every so often in <i>The Great British Baking Show</i>, a contestant will create a beautiful confection that doesn’t taste as good as it looks. That’s when Paul Hollywood says, “Style over substance.” In content, you want to make something that has meaning while also being visually attractive. So always think about your message first before focusing on the beauty of it. Sara says, “You have to actually know what you want to say first before you start thinking about how beautiful or whimsical you want it to look.”</li><li><strong>Trust your gut.</strong> Tune in to what feels right and rings true to your brand. In <i>The Great British Baking Show</i>, contestants have to navigate the technical challenge often based on their gut alone, having to make a cake based on directions like, “Make a genoise sponge.” You may not always have all the information in marketing either, but Sara says, “Be comfortable with not having all your information.” Trust that your gut will lead you in the right direction.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”One thing we haven't hit on is the storytelling aspect. You really identify and make memories with the bakers and the way that the show tells their backstory. And so you feel really connected. And I think that marketers should remember the power of storytelling. A lot of times, we want to go into stats and figures, but that's really not going to engage our emotional side of our brain, which is what we need to be persuaded.”</p><p>*”ROI, marketers love to talk about this. I think it really comes down to setting clear goals. A lot of times, especially when it comes on the brand side as opposed to the demand side of marketing, it isn't super easy to see and have metrics, so it's really important to set clear goals from the start. So then you can see if you're succeeding or not.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Sara Aiello, VP of Corporate Marketing at Trellix</p><p>[1:00] B2B Marketing Lessons from <i>The Great British Baking Show</i></p><p>[5:10] Behind the Scenes of <i>The Great British Baking Show</i></p><p>[11:11] Relating <i>The Great British Baking Show</i> to Marketing</p><p>[17:52] The Importance of Visuals and Positivity in Marketing</p><p>[23:24] The Human Element in B2B Marketing</p><p>[25:46] The Power of Storytelling in Marketing</p><p>[34:25] Building the Trellix Brand</p><p>[38:04] Engaging Content Strategies</p><p>[46:35] Final Thoughts and Advice for Marketing Leaders</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarajaiello/">Connect with Sara on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.trellix.com/">Learn more about Trellix</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. 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Focusing on substance over style is one of the many lessons we’re taking from The Great British Baking Show in this episode.

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Focusing on substance over style is one of the many lessons we’re taking from The Great British Baking Show in this episode.

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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Making big marketing investments is a huge deal. But lucky for you, we’re here to help.</p><p>We’re bringing you five keys to deliver on a big investment.</p><p>And we’re taking those lessons from the Olympics with the help of our special guest, VP of Marketing at AppsFlyer, Carolyn Bao.</p><p>Together, we’re talking about capitalizing on a cultural moment, committing to the long haul, ensuring activation is fully prepared, and so much more.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Carolyn Bao</strong></p><p>Carolyn Bao serves as the Vice President of Marketing for AppsFlyer, for the North America region, driving multi-channel efforts for the AppsFlyer mobile attribution and marketing analytics platform. She is an accomplished marketing executive with over 20 years of leadership experience at technology companies, specializing in software and SaaS marketing go-to-market strategy, data-driven business innovation and building high-performing marketing teams. She has deep domain knowledge of marketing tech stack and advertising technologies. </p><p>Beyond her commercial role, she nurtures the entrepreneurial spirit as an MBA@Rice faculty member and a founding board member of Silicon Valley Leadership Community.</p><p>Recognized with accolades such as LinkedIn’s “Top Voices” and Product Marketing Alliance’s “Top 100 PMMs,” Carolyn is celebrated for bringing products like Facebook Attribution to global markets, building high-performing marketing teams, and thought leadership in ‘women in leadership,’ ‘marketing management’ and ‘mobile growth strategies’ through key speaking engagements for educational and professional events. Carolyn built her career portfolio through leadership roles at technology powerhouses including Moomoo, Facebook, Visa, and Yahoo.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>The Olympics:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Capitalize on a cultural moment. </strong>Pick something in the cultural zeitgeist to inspire your content. If it’s already resonating and getting talked about, your content will too. Carolyn says, “I think leveraging critical cultural moments is one of the key growth drivers for any marketing department.” And she adds, “Really think through for your category, what is that cultural moment that we really want to capitalize on? In B2B marketing, not everybody competes in the Olympics. But we do compete in terms of how many in-person interactions we have with other practitioners. And that's where these in-person conferences immediately became popular again after we came out of COVID. So I think that's maybe something to really think about, is what is your Olympics equivalent.”</li><li><strong>Commit to the long haul.</strong> Big investments in content mean lots of planning for the pre-, during and post periods. How can you maximize the campaign and make the most of the big investment? Carolyn says, “Not a lot of companies have the ability to plan in massive time horizons, like every four years. A lot of marketing teams are probably working one to three quarters out for most of it. But I do think it's interesting to think of like, what are the big, massive bets that you can make that you might not be able to make every year that can show who you are as a brand.”</li><li><strong>Ensure activation is fully prepared.</strong> Don’t sell yourself short by creating content without planning through distribution and activation. Make sure it’s fully considered and you’re making the most of that investment. Carolyn says, “To activate marketing around the Olympics at this scale is massive. This is sort of our Coachella for marketers, because we don't get to have this many dollars to spend for the majority of us. And meanwhile, even if we are with a huge brand, it is not often that we have this kind of massive celebration. So the scale is super important. The second piece that's very interesting is in terms of how to ensure marketing is done right. There is a great deal of discipline in running a smooth marketing operation, which I think everyone can still also relate to because no matter big or small, for our marketing campaigns to be successful, we have to also wear that operational hat. And I think there's a lot to be unpacked from studying how the Olympics have been done.”</li><li><strong>Commit to the production cost.</strong> Big ideas come with a cost. Follow through with the full potential of the project, including the price of it. But the good news is that marketers have become a lot more efficient. Carolyn says, “Savvy marketers are not doing marketing content production the same way as old time marketers. Because they create these stories, they run it on mobile marketing channels, they run with a very small dollar amount, and they already got data to tell them what stories resonate with who. It pulls their feedback loop a lot shorter.”</li><li><strong>Know your ICP.</strong> Ensure your content will land with its intended audience by truly knowing your ICP. This means understanding their values, what motivates them, and the value you can offer them. Carolyn says, “Deeply understand whom it is you're really trying to influence. Knowing your ICP and knowing what you want your ICP to think or do differently from your storytelling is critical.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”With constraints, creativity really differentiates a good storyteller from a mid storyteller, leveraging the Gen Alpha language. The more you understand the limitations, the better it is you stay focused and think about within all of these constraints, what else could we do?”</p><p>*“If you are building a B2B brand, really make sure that there is a founder side of the humanized story. So that it's not just this brand, but it's actually the <i>why</i> the company was founded and how the founders have built the company.”</p><p>*” Let's ground our work back to marketing fundamentals. Our marketing fundamentals is storytelling and we really need to understand whom we're talking the story to, what we want them to think or do differently. This is the first. The second piece is, please do not be afraid of developing that left brain as a marketer because the tools to help us measure our work and tell us the feedback of how well our storytelling did are becoming a lot more available. If you don't know, search it up, use chat GPT, but really, really deeply understand marketing measurement and the data that is at your disposal to make you a better marketer. The third piece that's super critical is do not forget stakeholder management because with the village that supports us is what we can work on our day to day, the blocking and tackling, but also when the time is right, advocate for big activation like the Olympics and really make history. Have fun with it.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Carolyn Bao, VP of Marketing at AppsFlyer</p><p>[2:54] B2B Marketing Lessons from the Olympics and AppsFlyer</p><p>[4:14] Olympic Marketing Campaigns and Sponsorships</p><p>[36:09] Human-Centric Storytelling in Marketing</p><p>[42:28] Key Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/carolynbao/">Connect with Carolyn on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.appsflyer.com/">Learn more about AppsFlyer</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Making big marketing investments is a huge deal. But lucky for you, we’re here to help.</p><p>We’re bringing you five keys to deliver on a big investment.</p><p>And we’re taking those lessons from the Olympics with the help of our special guest, VP of Marketing at AppsFlyer, Carolyn Bao.</p><p>Together, we’re talking about capitalizing on a cultural moment, committing to the long haul, ensuring activation is fully prepared, and so much more.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Carolyn Bao</strong></p><p>Carolyn Bao serves as the Vice President of Marketing for AppsFlyer, for the North America region, driving multi-channel efforts for the AppsFlyer mobile attribution and marketing analytics platform. She is an accomplished marketing executive with over 20 years of leadership experience at technology companies, specializing in software and SaaS marketing go-to-market strategy, data-driven business innovation and building high-performing marketing teams. 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Carolyn built her career portfolio through leadership roles at technology powerhouses including Moomoo, Facebook, Visa, and Yahoo.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>The Olympics:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Capitalize on a cultural moment. </strong>Pick something in the cultural zeitgeist to inspire your content. If it’s already resonating and getting talked about, your content will too. Carolyn says, “I think leveraging critical cultural moments is one of the key growth drivers for any marketing department.” And she adds, “Really think through for your category, what is that cultural moment that we really want to capitalize on? In B2B marketing, not everybody competes in the Olympics. But we do compete in terms of how many in-person interactions we have with other practitioners. And that's where these in-person conferences immediately became popular again after we came out of COVID. So I think that's maybe something to really think about, is what is your Olympics equivalent.”</li><li><strong>Commit to the long haul.</strong> Big investments in content mean lots of planning for the pre-, during and post periods. How can you maximize the campaign and make the most of the big investment? Carolyn says, “Not a lot of companies have the ability to plan in massive time horizons, like every four years. A lot of marketing teams are probably working one to three quarters out for most of it. But I do think it's interesting to think of like, what are the big, massive bets that you can make that you might not be able to make every year that can show who you are as a brand.”</li><li><strong>Ensure activation is fully prepared.</strong> Don’t sell yourself short by creating content without planning through distribution and activation. Make sure it’s fully considered and you’re making the most of that investment. Carolyn says, “To activate marketing around the Olympics at this scale is massive. This is sort of our Coachella for marketers, because we don't get to have this many dollars to spend for the majority of us. And meanwhile, even if we are with a huge brand, it is not often that we have this kind of massive celebration. So the scale is super important. The second piece that's very interesting is in terms of how to ensure marketing is done right. There is a great deal of discipline in running a smooth marketing operation, which I think everyone can still also relate to because no matter big or small, for our marketing campaigns to be successful, we have to also wear that operational hat. And I think there's a lot to be unpacked from studying how the Olympics have been done.”</li><li><strong>Commit to the production cost.</strong> Big ideas come with a cost. Follow through with the full potential of the project, including the price of it. But the good news is that marketers have become a lot more efficient. Carolyn says, “Savvy marketers are not doing marketing content production the same way as old time marketers. Because they create these stories, they run it on mobile marketing channels, they run with a very small dollar amount, and they already got data to tell them what stories resonate with who. It pulls their feedback loop a lot shorter.”</li><li><strong>Know your ICP.</strong> Ensure your content will land with its intended audience by truly knowing your ICP. This means understanding their values, what motivates them, and the value you can offer them. Carolyn says, “Deeply understand whom it is you're really trying to influence. Knowing your ICP and knowing what you want your ICP to think or do differently from your storytelling is critical.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”With constraints, creativity really differentiates a good storyteller from a mid storyteller, leveraging the Gen Alpha language. The more you understand the limitations, the better it is you stay focused and think about within all of these constraints, what else could we do?”</p><p>*“If you are building a B2B brand, really make sure that there is a founder side of the humanized story. So that it's not just this brand, but it's actually the <i>why</i> the company was founded and how the founders have built the company.”</p><p>*” Let's ground our work back to marketing fundamentals. Our marketing fundamentals is storytelling and we really need to understand whom we're talking the story to, what we want them to think or do differently. This is the first. The second piece is, please do not be afraid of developing that left brain as a marketer because the tools to help us measure our work and tell us the feedback of how well our storytelling did are becoming a lot more available. If you don't know, search it up, use chat GPT, but really, really deeply understand marketing measurement and the data that is at your disposal to make you a better marketer. The third piece that's super critical is do not forget stakeholder management because with the village that supports us is what we can work on our day to day, the blocking and tackling, but also when the time is right, advocate for big activation like the Olympics and really make history. Have fun with it.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Carolyn Bao, VP of Marketing at AppsFlyer</p><p>[2:54] B2B Marketing Lessons from the Olympics and AppsFlyer</p><p>[4:14] Olympic Marketing Campaigns and Sponsorships</p><p>[36:09] Human-Centric Storytelling in Marketing</p><p>[42:28] Key Takeaways</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/carolynbao/">Connect with Carolyn on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.appsflyer.com/">Learn more about AppsFlyer</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>“A rare thing.” That’s what co-creator Steve Levitan called “the incredible alchemy of elements coming together” that was <i>Modern Family.</i></p><p>He and Christopher Lloyd, who he’d worked with on <i>Frasier, </i>wanted to create a show that felt real. A show with heart. </p><p>And it took the right writers, characters, and actors to play them to make it happen. And it happened for 11 years, winning 22 Emmys.</p><p>And in this episode, we’re taking B2B marketing lessons from it with the help of our special guest, CMO at Altimetrik, Jeff Fleischman.</p><p>Together, we talk about being passionate about your brand, showing persistence and grit, and the art of making “a rare thing.” </p><p><strong>About our guest, Jeff Fleischman</strong></p><p>Jeffrey Fleischman is a seasoned senior executive with over 35 years of experience spanning the financial services, banking, insurance, and technology. As CMO of Altimetrik he manages the company’s brand, marketing, lead generation, public relations, and communications functions. Jeff brings a wealth of expertise to the role. Previously, he served as Chief Marketing & Digital Officer at Penn Mutual, driving omni-channel campaigns and advancing digital initiatives. His leadership journey includes key roles at renowned companies such as Citi, American Express, TIAA-CREF, and Chase.</p><p>Jeff’s passion lies in creating innovative, customer-focused strategies and experiences that integrate data, technology, and design. His extensive expertise covers areas like omni-channel marketing, data analytics, product management, and business transformation. He holds a B.S. in finance from Syracuse University and an MBA in finance, investments, and banking from Hofstra University. He has or held board positions with Artemis, Zenmonics Inc., Hornor, Townsend & Kent, Telera, and IEP Youth Services.</p><p>Jeff is an author, advisor, investor, and speaker. His book, "Advice To My Younger Self," reflects his commitment to empowering others to achieve their aspirations.</p><p>Beyond his professional achievements, he expresses creativity through painting and crafting unique art pieces, breathing new life into old furniture, and has a passion for music.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Modern Family</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Be passionate about your brand. </strong>Jeff says, “On the passionate and competitive side, Jay Pritchett’s archenemy was Earl, his former partner of Closets, Closet, Closets. And they were at odds with each other, trying to outdo each other, trying to out-innovate each other. It’s that competitiveness and that passion that you need as a marketer. That passion really does have to come through.”</li><li><strong>Show persistence and grit. </strong>A lot of marketing is about trial and error. You find out what works with your audience by keeping things fresh and building your momentum. So don’t let the things that don’t work slow you down; just keep going. Jeff says, “Both Jay and Phil shared that kind of grit to be the best of what they can be, to beat everyone else out, whether it be another realtor, whether it be Earl from Closets, Closets, Closets. And as marketers, it's a very noisy world out there. Everyone's pushing content out. Everyone's trying to be everything to all customers. So how do you stand out? Not everything's going to be a home run. Not every piece of content, every blog, every white paper is going to resonate. But you need to just stick to your focus on how you take your brand and elevate it. And you don't stop trying. And if it works, great. If not, move on to the next one.”</li><li><strong>Focus on the heart of your content. </strong>Work on the emotion you want your audience to feel when they experience your content. That’s how you know your message will hit home and stick. And <i>then</i> you can start to chop it up for use across channels. Ian says, “So often in B2B marketing, we get so caught up in trying to create the asset and then chop it up and do all these things that you’re trying to do all the motions of the thing rather than the actual sentiment that is in the clip.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”You need to create opportunities for your community and your audience to talk about you to other people. They're not just sitting around all day thinking of your software. The number of people who are just thrilled with [your product] are not just going to sing it from the rooftops every second of every day. You need to cultivate those things and allow them to share it as much as you can.”</p><p>*”For marketers, tie what you're doing back to the company strategy. And if you do that, you don't have to push people. They're going to be pushing you to do more, and want more from you. If you don't know numbers, you don't know how to measure, you don't know ROI, it's a serious blind spot. Bring back what you're doing to numbers, bring back to ROI, talk like a CFO.”</p><p>*”Take a bite-sized approach. We never start off with a big bang. Our approach is tiny. Let's do a proof of concept. Let's get a quick win. We won't disrupt your customers. We won't disrupt your business. It's within your environment. And I can tell you, 99 percent of everything we started out with was a small project. And now we have extremely large engagements. They trust us, they know us, and those relationships grew over time.”</p><p>*”You're basically in a newspaper business. You have to invest in content, it's 24/7, it never ends. If you think putting a PDF up on a website or, you know, putting new colors onto your website is the idea of content, you know, it's a big miss. So, content is an investment, it's an asset, and it's very dynamic. You have to put the right content at the right place at the right time on the right, you know, device or environment. And it just never stops. Technology's gotten better, data's gotten better, AI is now in the mix. So as you think about B2B marketing and where you really can make a difference, it's taking content that gets noticed. And, you know, the more you do that, the more you'll get noticed.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Jeff Fleischman, CMO of Altimetrik</p><p>[5:41] Learn about Jeff's Role at Altimetrik</p><p>[7:43] About the Creation and Success of <i>Modern Family</i></p><p>[10:59] Casting Challenges and Character Development</p><p>[15:17] Marketing Takeaways from <i>Modern Family</i></p><p>[27:48] What Marketers Can Learn from Jay Pritchett's Competitive Spirit</p><p>[29:12] Grit and Persistence in Marketing</p><p>[33:48] How to Build a Strong Social Media Presence</p><p>[34:49] The Role of Earned Media</p><p>[46:14] AI in Marketing: A Game Changer</p><p>[52:02] Jeff’s Advice for First-Time CMOs</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffreyfleischman/">Connect with Jeff on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.altimetrik.com/">Learn more about Altimetrik</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“A rare thing.” That’s what co-creator Steve Levitan called “the incredible alchemy of elements coming together” that was <i>Modern Family.</i></p><p>He and Christopher Lloyd, who he’d worked with on <i>Frasier, </i>wanted to create a show that felt real. A show with heart. </p><p>And it took the right writers, characters, and actors to play them to make it happen. And it happened for 11 years, winning 22 Emmys.</p><p>And in this episode, we’re taking B2B marketing lessons from it with the help of our special guest, CMO at Altimetrik, Jeff Fleischman.</p><p>Together, we talk about being passionate about your brand, showing persistence and grit, and the art of making “a rare thing.” </p><p><strong>About our guest, Jeff Fleischman</strong></p><p>Jeffrey Fleischman is a seasoned senior executive with over 35 years of experience spanning the financial services, banking, insurance, and technology. As CMO of Altimetrik he manages the company’s brand, marketing, lead generation, public relations, and communications functions. Jeff brings a wealth of expertise to the role. Previously, he served as Chief Marketing & Digital Officer at Penn Mutual, driving omni-channel campaigns and advancing digital initiatives. His leadership journey includes key roles at renowned companies such as Citi, American Express, TIAA-CREF, and Chase.</p><p>Jeff’s passion lies in creating innovative, customer-focused strategies and experiences that integrate data, technology, and design. His extensive expertise covers areas like omni-channel marketing, data analytics, product management, and business transformation. He holds a B.S. in finance from Syracuse University and an MBA in finance, investments, and banking from Hofstra University. He has or held board positions with Artemis, Zenmonics Inc., Hornor, Townsend & Kent, Telera, and IEP Youth Services.</p><p>Jeff is an author, advisor, investor, and speaker. His book, "Advice To My Younger Self," reflects his commitment to empowering others to achieve their aspirations.</p><p>Beyond his professional achievements, he expresses creativity through painting and crafting unique art pieces, breathing new life into old furniture, and has a passion for music.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Modern Family</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Be passionate about your brand. </strong>Jeff says, “On the passionate and competitive side, Jay Pritchett’s archenemy was Earl, his former partner of Closets, Closet, Closets. And they were at odds with each other, trying to outdo each other, trying to out-innovate each other. It’s that competitiveness and that passion that you need as a marketer. That passion really does have to come through.”</li><li><strong>Show persistence and grit. </strong>A lot of marketing is about trial and error. You find out what works with your audience by keeping things fresh and building your momentum. So don’t let the things that don’t work slow you down; just keep going. Jeff says, “Both Jay and Phil shared that kind of grit to be the best of what they can be, to beat everyone else out, whether it be another realtor, whether it be Earl from Closets, Closets, Closets. And as marketers, it's a very noisy world out there. Everyone's pushing content out. Everyone's trying to be everything to all customers. So how do you stand out? Not everything's going to be a home run. Not every piece of content, every blog, every white paper is going to resonate. But you need to just stick to your focus on how you take your brand and elevate it. And you don't stop trying. And if it works, great. If not, move on to the next one.”</li><li><strong>Focus on the heart of your content. </strong>Work on the emotion you want your audience to feel when they experience your content. That’s how you know your message will hit home and stick. And <i>then</i> you can start to chop it up for use across channels. Ian says, “So often in B2B marketing, we get so caught up in trying to create the asset and then chop it up and do all these things that you’re trying to do all the motions of the thing rather than the actual sentiment that is in the clip.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”You need to create opportunities for your community and your audience to talk about you to other people. They're not just sitting around all day thinking of your software. The number of people who are just thrilled with [your product] are not just going to sing it from the rooftops every second of every day. You need to cultivate those things and allow them to share it as much as you can.”</p><p>*”For marketers, tie what you're doing back to the company strategy. And if you do that, you don't have to push people. They're going to be pushing you to do more, and want more from you. If you don't know numbers, you don't know how to measure, you don't know ROI, it's a serious blind spot. Bring back what you're doing to numbers, bring back to ROI, talk like a CFO.”</p><p>*”Take a bite-sized approach. We never start off with a big bang. Our approach is tiny. Let's do a proof of concept. Let's get a quick win. We won't disrupt your customers. We won't disrupt your business. It's within your environment. And I can tell you, 99 percent of everything we started out with was a small project. And now we have extremely large engagements. They trust us, they know us, and those relationships grew over time.”</p><p>*”You're basically in a newspaper business. You have to invest in content, it's 24/7, it never ends. If you think putting a PDF up on a website or, you know, putting new colors onto your website is the idea of content, you know, it's a big miss. So, content is an investment, it's an asset, and it's very dynamic. You have to put the right content at the right place at the right time on the right, you know, device or environment. And it just never stops. Technology's gotten better, data's gotten better, AI is now in the mix. So as you think about B2B marketing and where you really can make a difference, it's taking content that gets noticed. And, you know, the more you do that, the more you'll get noticed.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Jeff Fleischman, CMO of Altimetrik</p><p>[5:41] Learn about Jeff's Role at Altimetrik</p><p>[7:43] About the Creation and Success of <i>Modern Family</i></p><p>[10:59] Casting Challenges and Character Development</p><p>[15:17] Marketing Takeaways from <i>Modern Family</i></p><p>[27:48] What Marketers Can Learn from Jay Pritchett's Competitive Spirit</p><p>[29:12] Grit and Persistence in Marketing</p><p>[33:48] How to Build a Strong Social Media Presence</p><p>[34:49] The Role of Earned Media</p><p>[46:14] AI in Marketing: A Game Changer</p><p>[52:02] Jeff’s Advice for First-Time CMOs</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffreyfleischman/">Connect with Jeff on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.altimetrik.com/">Learn more about Altimetrik</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>“A rare thing.” That’s what co-creator Steve Levitan called “the incredible alchemy of elements coming together” that was Modern Family.

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And it took the right writers, characters, and actors to play them to make it happen. And it happened for 11 years, winning 22 Emmys.

And in this episode, we’re taking B2B marketing lessons from it with the help of our special guest, CMO at Altimetrik, Jeff Fleischman.

Together, we talk about being passionate about your brand, showing persistence and grit, and the art of making “a rare thing.”</itunes:summary>
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He and Christopher Lloyd, who he’d worked with on Frasier, wanted to create a show that felt real. A show with heart. 

And it took the right writers, characters, and actors to play them to make it happen. And it happened for 11 years, winning 22 Emmys.

And in this episode, we’re taking B2B marketing lessons from it with the help of our special guest, CMO at Altimetrik, Jeff Fleischman.

Together, we talk about being passionate about your brand, showing persistence and grit, and the art of making “a rare thing.”</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Days of Thunder: B2B Marketing Lessons from the 1990 Tom Cruise Movie with Director of Content Marketing at Fictiv, Ricky Frohnerath</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>What do a marketer and a racecar driver have in common? You’re about to find out. </p><p>One thing we can say is that going as fast as you can leads to burnout. That’s one of the things we’re talking about in this episode.</p><p>We’re taking marketing lessons from the 1990 Tom Cruise flick <i>Days of Thunder</i> with the help of our special guest, Director of Content Marketing at Fictiv, Ricky Frohnerath.</p><p>Together, we talk about being strategic instead of fast, speaking the same language as your team, and building contingency plans in case your campaigns don’t go as expected.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Ricky Frohnerath</strong></p><p>Ricky Frohnerath is Director of Content Marketing for San Francisco-based Fictiv, leading comprehensive content strategy and execution for all marketing campaigns, across all funnel stages and audiences. He specializes in building and managing cross-functional marketing teams for manufacturing and technology organizations. He's the A proponent of agile marketing methodology, servant leadership, self-management principles, and empowerment, his focus is on people first, then process, and then technology. A longtime resident of the Tampa Bay area, his education includes the Pinellas County Center for the Arts, St. Petersburg College, and the University of South Florida. Ricky is an amateur racing driver and avid enthusiast of electric vehicles, who believes in the power of uniting personal and professional values to drive positive change. Thus, he's passionate about accelerating sustainability by sparking and sharing conversations with leaders in electrification, motorsport, and industry.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Days of Thunder</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Be strategic, not fast. </strong>If you try to go as fast as you can, you burn out or make mistakes. Slowing down just a bit to make sure your work is high quality and highly effective actually means you’ll work faster in the end. In <i>Days of Thunder</i>, Ricky says that Cole Trickle’s “quest is to find ultimate speed. He's actually over driving the tires and he's driving faster than [his competitors] can. And what happens when you're over driving the tires is that they get greasy and they start to degrade faster. So this is a problem because if you destroy your tires, then you have to come into the pits and that takes time.” So instead Cole learns to drive more efficiently by speeding up or slowing down strategically based on his coach’s advice. So slow down to work more efficiently and effectively.</li><li><strong>Speak the same language as your team. </strong>Communication becomes so much more efficient and effective when you share shorthand and jargon. Ricky says, “When you're on a team, you need to be speaking the same language. You need to have a shared lexicon so that there is this transmission of understanding. You need to know what's working, you need to know what's not working, and you need to know what you're talking about.”</li><li><strong>Build in wiggle room in case things don’t go right.</strong> If you hit a bump in the road, giving yourself a little extra time in the planning process for your campaign takes the pressure off. Ricky says, “Things are not going to go according to plan. You need to build in some agility and the ability to kind of compensate when it comes time to actually execute.” So give yourself room to breathe with your next campaign timeline. That way, you can correct any issues without stressing over deadlines. In <i>Days of Thunder</i>, it’s like when they plan, design and build Cole Trickle’s car and then it gets destroyed in an early race and they have to figure out how to pivot.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”I think it's fairly common for there to be conflict, especially between marketing and sales. One of the ways that you can overcome this is by having a shared language. Understand and adopt the KPIs that the sales team are going after. So, for example, one area where marketing and sales become misaligned is marketing likes to talk about big metrics, like impressions, eyeballs, even things like conversions. But these are KPIs that really don't translate well into the sales world. Like they are interested in leads and they're keeping an eye on sales and revenue and things like that. So make those metrics, your metrics and understand how the marketing activities roll into those KPIs. It's not to say that you don't keep track of impressions and a lot of other things that kind of get labeled as vanity metrics, but understand how you go from an impression down into revenue.”</p><p>*”If you're overdriving the tires, you're effectively leading to burnout. I think the same is true when we think about high performance teams. The best that somebody can perform is at the limit of their abilities. There is no 110%. You can only do the best that you can at the peak of your ability. You can't give that extra 10%. So forcing you to do that is actually going to have a detrimental effect. So I think that's super important to keep in mind for marketing teams.”</p><p>*”Marketers in general just need to have a very good understanding of who you're connecting with, who you're marketing to.  And I think in general we do a pretty good job of that. I think that authenticity is so important for a very targeted audience and especially one that is  extremely cognizant of inauthenticity.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Ricky Frohnerath, Director of Content Marketing at Fictiv</p><p>[7:05] Behind the Scenes of Days of Thunder</p><p>[12:32] Passion Projects and Marketing Lessons</p><p>[21:35] The Story of Days of Thunder</p><p>[23:44] Marketing Lessons from Days of Thunder</p><p>[25:33] Planning and Agility in Marketing</p><p>[28:40] Communication and Trust in Teams</p><p>[32:54] Burnout and High Performance</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rickywiki/">Connect with Ricky on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.fictiv.com/">Learn more about Fictiv</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Ian Faison, Ricky Frohnerath, Meredith Gooderham, Scott Goodrich)</author>
      <link>https://www.caspianstudios.com/remarkable</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do a marketer and a racecar driver have in common? You’re about to find out. </p><p>One thing we can say is that going as fast as you can leads to burnout. That’s one of the things we’re talking about in this episode.</p><p>We’re taking marketing lessons from the 1990 Tom Cruise flick <i>Days of Thunder</i> with the help of our special guest, Director of Content Marketing at Fictiv, Ricky Frohnerath.</p><p>Together, we talk about being strategic instead of fast, speaking the same language as your team, and building contingency plans in case your campaigns don’t go as expected.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Ricky Frohnerath</strong></p><p>Ricky Frohnerath is Director of Content Marketing for San Francisco-based Fictiv, leading comprehensive content strategy and execution for all marketing campaigns, across all funnel stages and audiences. He specializes in building and managing cross-functional marketing teams for manufacturing and technology organizations. He's the A proponent of agile marketing methodology, servant leadership, self-management principles, and empowerment, his focus is on people first, then process, and then technology. A longtime resident of the Tampa Bay area, his education includes the Pinellas County Center for the Arts, St. Petersburg College, and the University of South Florida. Ricky is an amateur racing driver and avid enthusiast of electric vehicles, who believes in the power of uniting personal and professional values to drive positive change. Thus, he's passionate about accelerating sustainability by sparking and sharing conversations with leaders in electrification, motorsport, and industry.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Days of Thunder</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Be strategic, not fast. </strong>If you try to go as fast as you can, you burn out or make mistakes. Slowing down just a bit to make sure your work is high quality and highly effective actually means you’ll work faster in the end. In <i>Days of Thunder</i>, Ricky says that Cole Trickle’s “quest is to find ultimate speed. He's actually over driving the tires and he's driving faster than [his competitors] can. And what happens when you're over driving the tires is that they get greasy and they start to degrade faster. So this is a problem because if you destroy your tires, then you have to come into the pits and that takes time.” So instead Cole learns to drive more efficiently by speeding up or slowing down strategically based on his coach’s advice. So slow down to work more efficiently and effectively.</li><li><strong>Speak the same language as your team. </strong>Communication becomes so much more efficient and effective when you share shorthand and jargon. Ricky says, “When you're on a team, you need to be speaking the same language. You need to have a shared lexicon so that there is this transmission of understanding. You need to know what's working, you need to know what's not working, and you need to know what you're talking about.”</li><li><strong>Build in wiggle room in case things don’t go right.</strong> If you hit a bump in the road, giving yourself a little extra time in the planning process for your campaign takes the pressure off. Ricky says, “Things are not going to go according to plan. You need to build in some agility and the ability to kind of compensate when it comes time to actually execute.” So give yourself room to breathe with your next campaign timeline. That way, you can correct any issues without stressing over deadlines. In <i>Days of Thunder</i>, it’s like when they plan, design and build Cole Trickle’s car and then it gets destroyed in an early race and they have to figure out how to pivot.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”I think it's fairly common for there to be conflict, especially between marketing and sales. One of the ways that you can overcome this is by having a shared language. Understand and adopt the KPIs that the sales team are going after. So, for example, one area where marketing and sales become misaligned is marketing likes to talk about big metrics, like impressions, eyeballs, even things like conversions. But these are KPIs that really don't translate well into the sales world. Like they are interested in leads and they're keeping an eye on sales and revenue and things like that. So make those metrics, your metrics and understand how the marketing activities roll into those KPIs. It's not to say that you don't keep track of impressions and a lot of other things that kind of get labeled as vanity metrics, but understand how you go from an impression down into revenue.”</p><p>*”If you're overdriving the tires, you're effectively leading to burnout. I think the same is true when we think about high performance teams. The best that somebody can perform is at the limit of their abilities. There is no 110%. You can only do the best that you can at the peak of your ability. You can't give that extra 10%. So forcing you to do that is actually going to have a detrimental effect. So I think that's super important to keep in mind for marketing teams.”</p><p>*”Marketers in general just need to have a very good understanding of who you're connecting with, who you're marketing to.  And I think in general we do a pretty good job of that. I think that authenticity is so important for a very targeted audience and especially one that is  extremely cognizant of inauthenticity.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Ricky Frohnerath, Director of Content Marketing at Fictiv</p><p>[7:05] Behind the Scenes of Days of Thunder</p><p>[12:32] Passion Projects and Marketing Lessons</p><p>[21:35] The Story of Days of Thunder</p><p>[23:44] Marketing Lessons from Days of Thunder</p><p>[25:33] Planning and Agility in Marketing</p><p>[28:40] Communication and Trust in Teams</p><p>[32:54] Burnout and High Performance</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rickywiki/">Connect with Ricky on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.fictiv.com/">Learn more about Fictiv</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>What do a marketer and a racecar driver have in common? You’re about to find out. 

One thing we can say is that going as fast as you can leads to burnout. That’s one of the things we’re talking about in this episode.

We’re taking marketing lessons from the 1990 Tom Cruise flick Days of Thunder with the help of our special guest, Director of Content Marketing at Fictiv, Ricky Frohnerath.

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We’re taking marketing lessons from the 1990 Tom Cruise flick Days of Thunder with the help of our special guest, Director of Content Marketing at Fictiv, Ricky Frohnerath.

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      <description><![CDATA[<p>There’s an athlete right now that uses, knows and loves your product. </p><p>So why aren’t you partnering with them to promote your brand? </p><p>The global sports sponsorship market is expected to grow to almost $108 billion by 2030.</p><p>And there’s around $1.3B in projected revenue this year from pro women athlete sponsorships. </p><p>Feel like you’re missing out yet? The message is clear: sponsor a pro woman athlete (or two). </p><p>In this episode, we’re talking about B2B marketing lessons from professional women athlete sponsorships with the help of our special guest, PARITY CEO Leela Srinivasan.</p><p>Together, we talk about experimenting with new channels, finding your match, and much more.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Leela Srinivasan</strong></p><p>Leela Srinivasan took the reins as CEO in May 2023, when Parity had amassed a network of over 800 women athletes and paid out over $2 million in sponsorships. Under her leadership, the company is poised to increase both numbers exponentially – and become a household name – as it enters its next phase in the fight against gender pay disparity in sports.</p><p><br />Prior to joining Parity, Leela served as Chief Marketing Officer (CMO) for three-high-growth companies: digital payments provider Checkout.com; Momentive, the maker of SurveyMonkey; and recruiting software company Lever. She developed her initial passion for community, customer centricity and data-driven marketing earlier in her marketing career at LinkedIn and OpenTable. She serves on the board of Upwork and on the board of advisors for the Tuck School of Business at Dartmouth, where she earned her MBA.</p><p><br />Leela lives in North Carolina with her husband Joel and three middle-school girls. There are no dull moments.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Pro Women Athlete Sponsorships:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Experiment with new channels. </strong>Keep a budget to try new things. Whether it’s simply posting to a different social channel or sponsoring a pro athlete, the Leela says, ”As a marketer, your livelihood depends on being able to find new channels to replace channels that were once working really well that suddenly stopped working, to find ways to stand out from your competitors. Because what happens is if you're doing one thing, then six months later, everyone else is probably trying to do it too. So you have to keep things fresh. It doesn't mean you have to devote your entire budget to experimentation, of course. You need to certainly put money where you know things are working, but over time that mix is going to change as a marketer. And so I think it's smart. It's actually self preservation in some ways, to keep trying to just find ways to experiment on the edges and tap into something that can really give you a fresh perspective in the market.”</li><li><strong>Find your match. </strong>There’s an athlete out there right now who would align strongly with your brand values. Use them as the face of your brand to humanize the name. Leela says, “Find something that really feels right for the brand and allows them to kind of carve out their own space. There are so many directions that you can now run in; New leagues springing up, new sports coming to the fore, new athletes with incredibly interesting stories.</li></ul><p>Quotes</p><p>*”When you get those people, those athletes, those influencers talking very naturally about something that they find joy in or that they believe in, it's just another level of awesomeness when it comes to ambassadorship or testimonial.”</p><p>*”There are so many stories waiting to be told. If you're willing to be creative about the types of athlete that you work with, there are always athletes that can be within budget that can do some incredible storytelling for you.”</p><p>*”I always had some money in what I called my rainy day fund or my slush fund. That budget was mine to make discretionary investments where I wanted to try things, where maybe the ROI was less proven or the path was a little less trodden but it was worth the opportunity, worth that risk to try something different because, God forbid you just become this terrible vanilla marketer that is doing the same as everybody else. You have to find ways to break through. I mean, that's the fun part of marketing. Why wouldn't you? So I always had some experimentation budget just tucked away for when these types of opportunities came up.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Leela Srinivasan, CEO at PARITY</p><p>[2:03] Leela's Journey to PARITY</p><p>[5:17] Understanding Pro Women Athlete Sponsorships</p><p>[9:55] History of Pro Women Athlete Sponsorships</p><p>[14:27] Current Landscape and Opportunities</p><p>[24:07] The Gender Disparity in Sports</p><p>[24:51] The Influence of Women Athletes on Marketing</p><p>[27:00] Creative Campaigns and Athlete Partnerships</p><p>[28:16] The Importance of Originality in Marketing</p><p>[29:56] Investing in Women's Sports</p><p>[32:38] Engaging with Brands and Athletes</p><p>[35:37] The Power of Authentic Athlete Endorsements</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/leelasrinivasan/">Connect with Leela on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://paritynow.co/">Learn more about PARITY</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There’s an athlete right now that uses, knows and loves your product. </p><p>So why aren’t you partnering with them to promote your brand? </p><p>The global sports sponsorship market is expected to grow to almost $108 billion by 2030.</p><p>And there’s around $1.3B in projected revenue this year from pro women athlete sponsorships. </p><p>Feel like you’re missing out yet? The message is clear: sponsor a pro woman athlete (or two). </p><p>In this episode, we’re talking about B2B marketing lessons from professional women athlete sponsorships with the help of our special guest, PARITY CEO Leela Srinivasan.</p><p>Together, we talk about experimenting with new channels, finding your match, and much more.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Leela Srinivasan</strong></p><p>Leela Srinivasan took the reins as CEO in May 2023, when Parity had amassed a network of over 800 women athletes and paid out over $2 million in sponsorships. Under her leadership, the company is poised to increase both numbers exponentially – and become a household name – as it enters its next phase in the fight against gender pay disparity in sports.</p><p><br />Prior to joining Parity, Leela served as Chief Marketing Officer (CMO) for three-high-growth companies: digital payments provider Checkout.com; Momentive, the maker of SurveyMonkey; and recruiting software company Lever. She developed her initial passion for community, customer centricity and data-driven marketing earlier in her marketing career at LinkedIn and OpenTable. She serves on the board of Upwork and on the board of advisors for the Tuck School of Business at Dartmouth, where she earned her MBA.</p><p><br />Leela lives in North Carolina with her husband Joel and three middle-school girls. There are no dull moments.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Pro Women Athlete Sponsorships:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Experiment with new channels. </strong>Keep a budget to try new things. Whether it’s simply posting to a different social channel or sponsoring a pro athlete, the Leela says, ”As a marketer, your livelihood depends on being able to find new channels to replace channels that were once working really well that suddenly stopped working, to find ways to stand out from your competitors. Because what happens is if you're doing one thing, then six months later, everyone else is probably trying to do it too. So you have to keep things fresh. It doesn't mean you have to devote your entire budget to experimentation, of course. You need to certainly put money where you know things are working, but over time that mix is going to change as a marketer. And so I think it's smart. It's actually self preservation in some ways, to keep trying to just find ways to experiment on the edges and tap into something that can really give you a fresh perspective in the market.”</li><li><strong>Find your match. </strong>There’s an athlete out there right now who would align strongly with your brand values. Use them as the face of your brand to humanize the name. Leela says, “Find something that really feels right for the brand and allows them to kind of carve out their own space. There are so many directions that you can now run in; New leagues springing up, new sports coming to the fore, new athletes with incredibly interesting stories.</li></ul><p>Quotes</p><p>*”When you get those people, those athletes, those influencers talking very naturally about something that they find joy in or that they believe in, it's just another level of awesomeness when it comes to ambassadorship or testimonial.”</p><p>*”There are so many stories waiting to be told. If you're willing to be creative about the types of athlete that you work with, there are always athletes that can be within budget that can do some incredible storytelling for you.”</p><p>*”I always had some money in what I called my rainy day fund or my slush fund. That budget was mine to make discretionary investments where I wanted to try things, where maybe the ROI was less proven or the path was a little less trodden but it was worth the opportunity, worth that risk to try something different because, God forbid you just become this terrible vanilla marketer that is doing the same as everybody else. You have to find ways to break through. I mean, that's the fun part of marketing. Why wouldn't you? So I always had some experimentation budget just tucked away for when these types of opportunities came up.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Leela Srinivasan, CEO at PARITY</p><p>[2:03] Leela's Journey to PARITY</p><p>[5:17] Understanding Pro Women Athlete Sponsorships</p><p>[9:55] History of Pro Women Athlete Sponsorships</p><p>[14:27] Current Landscape and Opportunities</p><p>[24:07] The Gender Disparity in Sports</p><p>[24:51] The Influence of Women Athletes on Marketing</p><p>[27:00] Creative Campaigns and Athlete Partnerships</p><p>[28:16] The Importance of Originality in Marketing</p><p>[29:56] Investing in Women's Sports</p><p>[32:38] Engaging with Brands and Athletes</p><p>[35:37] The Power of Authentic Athlete Endorsements</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/leelasrinivasan/">Connect with Leela on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://paritynow.co/">Learn more about PARITY</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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So why aren’t you partnering with them to promote your brand? 

The global sports sponsorship market is expected to grow to almost $108 billion by 2030.

And there’s around $1.3B in projected revenue this year from pro women athlete sponsorships. 

Feel like you’re missing out yet? The message is clear: sponsor a pro woman athlete (or two). 

In this episode, we’re talking about B2B marketing lessons from professional women athlete sponsorships with the help of our special guest, PARITY CEO Leela Srinivasan.

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So why aren’t you partnering with them to promote your brand? 

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Feel like you’re missing out yet? The message is clear: sponsor a pro woman athlete (or two). 

In this episode, we’re talking about B2B marketing lessons from professional women athlete sponsorships with the help of our special guest, PARITY CEO Leela Srinivasan.

Together, we talk about experimenting with new channels, finding your match, and much more.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Morrissey, Taking Back Sunday, Alkaline Trio, Streetlight Manifesto…</p><p>For dedicated fans, these are bands that bring back memories of checkered Vans shoes, studded belts, and paper wrist bands from each show.</p><p>But some of them haven’t toured in years.</p><p>So to see them all on one festival poster 20 years after their heyday made fans think it was too good to be true. It wasn’t, and it lived up to the hype.</p><p>So in this episode, we’re talking about all the good - and questionable - marketing that went into the When We Were Young Festival.</p><p>With the help of our special guest, Head of Content Marketing at CoreWeave, Brooke Gocklin, we’re talking about painting the picture, building a community of advocates, and delivering on the hype.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Brooke Gocklin</strong></p><p>Brooke Gocklin is the Head of Content Marketing at CoreWeave. Prior to joining the company in July 2024, she was the Editor-in-Chief at Contently, where she led content strategy and editorial direction for <i>The Content Strategist</i> and <i>The Freelance Creative</i>. Brooke is a recognized expert in content marketing, with a particular focus on the evolving role of AI in business. At Persado, an AI-language generation company, Brooke honed her skills in content creation for AI-driven solutions. Her deep understanding of technical products positioned her as a subject matter expert in the evolving AI space. Her work, featured in <i>Adweek</i> and <i>Content Marketing Institute</i>, reflects her deep understanding of how to craft impactful content strategies and engaging narratives that resonate with target audiences.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>the When We Were Young Festival:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Paint the picture. </strong>Show your audience what doing business with you would look like. When they’re able to visualize the tangible benefits of becoming a customer, it makes it that much easier for them to sign on the dotted line. For the When We Were Young Festival, the organizers made a poster with album covers of all of the bands who would be performing. Ian says, “[It’s] brilliant, right? You have to show people what it would look like. I have found over the years that if you can mock something up, it’s so much easier, right? It's much harder to get an idea of something in a Google doc.” So paint the picture. Mock up an idea of what your product looks like for your audience.</li><li><strong>Build a community of advocates. </strong>Bands like Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance and Taking Back Sunday have created communities of fiercely loyal fans. Brooke says, “And so that means that when you see all of these bands coming together, the reaction is, is this even real? But two, it gives you a sense of like, ‘Oh my gosh, I have to be there. And I have to tell my friends about this.’ And so I think that for B2B marketers, you know, really leveraging customer advocates or people who are just really excited about your product or service to amplify your message builds trust in a wider audience. So choose customers who love you, who love your product, who love your service and leverage them to tell others about you.”</li><li><strong>Deliver on the hype. </strong>You can tease about a product or service as much as you want, as long as it delivers what it promises. Brooke says, “When We Were Young created a massive buzz with a huge lineup. They also did a lot of teasers, but most importantly, they really backed it up with a well organized incredible event. Credibility is so important. So you can't just hype something up whether that's your product or service. And not have it live up to expectations. So as marketers, I think it's really crucial when you're thinking about B2B, to build trust and credibility from the get go. So whether that means that you're creating content that is factually accurate and all of the products and features, functionalities live up to what you're selling them as. That is important, right? So you need to establish your brand as a go-to resource, but you do that by being credible.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”As far as how I think about content, it's really like connective tissue. I think it's at the core and at the center of a brand story. So, you need content to be able to bring people into the funnel. You need content as they're exploring, getting to know you. You need content when they're at that purchasing stage, or even after they become a customer, you still need them to engage with you. And you need to be putting out ideas that provoke some sort of thought and that's valuable to them.”</p><p>*”Really good content marketing is about creating value for your audience and really helping them solve their problems. So my approach has always been: start with the audience. What do they care about? What are their challenges? And then craft content that speaks directly to those needs. I think that that is a key differentiator when it comes to content strategy.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Brooke Gocklin, Head of Content Marketing at CoreWeave</p><p>[3:10] When We Were Young Festival's Unique Marketing Tactics</p><p>[8:11] Nostalgia and Community Building</p><p>[19:39] Marketing Lessons for B2B</p><p>[22:31] The Power of Loyal Fan Bases</p><p>[23:14] Leveraging Customer Advocates in B2B Marketing</p><p>[24:09] Building Online Communities</p><p>[26:54] Activating a Community</p><p>[29:43] Delivering on the Hype</p><p>[31:40] Content Strategy and Its Importance</p><p>[34:11] Successful Content Campaigns</p><p>[37:16] Measuring Content ROI</p><p>[39:38] Exciting New Projects at CoreWeave</p><p>[41:06] Advice for New Heads of Content</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brooke-gocklin/">Connect with Brooke on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.coreweave.com/">Learn more about CoreWeave</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morrissey, Taking Back Sunday, Alkaline Trio, Streetlight Manifesto…</p><p>For dedicated fans, these are bands that bring back memories of checkered Vans shoes, studded belts, and paper wrist bands from each show.</p><p>But some of them haven’t toured in years.</p><p>So to see them all on one festival poster 20 years after their heyday made fans think it was too good to be true. It wasn’t, and it lived up to the hype.</p><p>So in this episode, we’re talking about all the good - and questionable - marketing that went into the When We Were Young Festival.</p><p>With the help of our special guest, Head of Content Marketing at CoreWeave, Brooke Gocklin, we’re talking about painting the picture, building a community of advocates, and delivering on the hype.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Brooke Gocklin</strong></p><p>Brooke Gocklin is the Head of Content Marketing at CoreWeave. Prior to joining the company in July 2024, she was the Editor-in-Chief at Contently, where she led content strategy and editorial direction for <i>The Content Strategist</i> and <i>The Freelance Creative</i>. Brooke is a recognized expert in content marketing, with a particular focus on the evolving role of AI in business. At Persado, an AI-language generation company, Brooke honed her skills in content creation for AI-driven solutions. Her deep understanding of technical products positioned her as a subject matter expert in the evolving AI space. Her work, featured in <i>Adweek</i> and <i>Content Marketing Institute</i>, reflects her deep understanding of how to craft impactful content strategies and engaging narratives that resonate with target audiences.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>the When We Were Young Festival:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Paint the picture. </strong>Show your audience what doing business with you would look like. When they’re able to visualize the tangible benefits of becoming a customer, it makes it that much easier for them to sign on the dotted line. For the When We Were Young Festival, the organizers made a poster with album covers of all of the bands who would be performing. Ian says, “[It’s] brilliant, right? You have to show people what it would look like. I have found over the years that if you can mock something up, it’s so much easier, right? It's much harder to get an idea of something in a Google doc.” So paint the picture. Mock up an idea of what your product looks like for your audience.</li><li><strong>Build a community of advocates. </strong>Bands like Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance and Taking Back Sunday have created communities of fiercely loyal fans. Brooke says, “And so that means that when you see all of these bands coming together, the reaction is, is this even real? But two, it gives you a sense of like, ‘Oh my gosh, I have to be there. And I have to tell my friends about this.’ And so I think that for B2B marketers, you know, really leveraging customer advocates or people who are just really excited about your product or service to amplify your message builds trust in a wider audience. So choose customers who love you, who love your product, who love your service and leverage them to tell others about you.”</li><li><strong>Deliver on the hype. </strong>You can tease about a product or service as much as you want, as long as it delivers what it promises. Brooke says, “When We Were Young created a massive buzz with a huge lineup. They also did a lot of teasers, but most importantly, they really backed it up with a well organized incredible event. Credibility is so important. So you can't just hype something up whether that's your product or service. And not have it live up to expectations. So as marketers, I think it's really crucial when you're thinking about B2B, to build trust and credibility from the get go. So whether that means that you're creating content that is factually accurate and all of the products and features, functionalities live up to what you're selling them as. That is important, right? So you need to establish your brand as a go-to resource, but you do that by being credible.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”As far as how I think about content, it's really like connective tissue. I think it's at the core and at the center of a brand story. So, you need content to be able to bring people into the funnel. You need content as they're exploring, getting to know you. You need content when they're at that purchasing stage, or even after they become a customer, you still need them to engage with you. And you need to be putting out ideas that provoke some sort of thought and that's valuable to them.”</p><p>*”Really good content marketing is about creating value for your audience and really helping them solve their problems. So my approach has always been: start with the audience. What do they care about? What are their challenges? And then craft content that speaks directly to those needs. I think that that is a key differentiator when it comes to content strategy.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Brooke Gocklin, Head of Content Marketing at CoreWeave</p><p>[3:10] When We Were Young Festival's Unique Marketing Tactics</p><p>[8:11] Nostalgia and Community Building</p><p>[19:39] Marketing Lessons for B2B</p><p>[22:31] The Power of Loyal Fan Bases</p><p>[23:14] Leveraging Customer Advocates in B2B Marketing</p><p>[24:09] Building Online Communities</p><p>[26:54] Activating a Community</p><p>[29:43] Delivering on the Hype</p><p>[31:40] Content Strategy and Its Importance</p><p>[34:11] Successful Content Campaigns</p><p>[37:16] Measuring Content ROI</p><p>[39:38] Exciting New Projects at CoreWeave</p><p>[41:06] Advice for New Heads of Content</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brooke-gocklin/">Connect with Brooke on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.coreweave.com/">Learn more about CoreWeave</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>Morrissey, Taking Back Sunday, Alkaline Trio, Streetlight Manifesto…

These are bands that bring back memories of checkered Vans shoes, studded belts, and paper wrist bands from each show.

And to see them all on one festival poster 20 years after their heyday made fans think it was too good to be true. It wasn’t, and it lived up to the hype.

So in this episode, we’re talking about all the good - and questionable - marketing that went into the When We Were Young Festival.

With the help of our special guest, Head of Content Marketing at CoreWeave, Brooke Gocklin, we’re talking about painting the picture, building a community of advocates, and delivering on the hype.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Morrissey, Taking Back Sunday, Alkaline Trio, Streetlight Manifesto…

These are bands that bring back memories of checkered Vans shoes, studded belts, and paper wrist bands from each show.

And to see them all on one festival poster 20 years after their heyday made fans think it was too good to be true. It wasn’t, and it lived up to the hype.

So in this episode, we’re talking about all the good - and questionable - marketing that went into the When We Were Young Festival.

With the help of our special guest, Head of Content Marketing at CoreWeave, Brooke Gocklin, we’re talking about painting the picture, building a community of advocates, and delivering on the hype.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Hooking your audience is one thing, but keeping them emotionally invested in your content is another. </p><p>So for this episode of Remarkable, we’re taking marketing lessons on doing just that from the Irish dark comedy, <i>Bad Sisters.</i></p><p>It’s a show about four sisters who plot to kill their diabolical brother-in-law, and the season starts with his funeral.</p><p>Series creator, Sharon Horgan, says, “We had to keep an audience with us for 10 episodes and keep them wanting the same outcome." That is, the death of their brother-in-law, John Paul. </p><p>So with the help of our special guest, D2L CMO Brian Finnerty, we’re talking about hooking your audience, knowing your target, and doing trial and error. </p><p><strong>About our guest, Brian Finnerty</strong></p><p>Brian Finnerty is a B2B marketing specialist with over 25 years experience leading enterprise marketing teams. He currently serves as CMO at D2L. His expertise includes brand strategy, B2B demand generation, and global customer acquisition from mid-market to Fortune 500. He previously served as VP of Revenue Marketing for Udacity. Prior to joining Udacity, Brian served as VP of Growth Marketing at Demandbase, where he was responsible for demand generation, field marketing, and customer marketing at Demandbase. Brian has also been a marketing leader at two ad tech companies, Marin Software and Smaato. He co-founded an e-learning startup that specialized in software developer training, with a rules-based code judging engine. He is an active Customer Advisory Board member for both 6sense and Sendoso.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Bad Sisters</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Start with a hook. </strong><i>Bad Sisters </i>grabs viewers’ attention because it’s about four sisters plotting to kill their brother-in-law, and it starts with his funeral. So the question is: “How did he die?” This is what drives viewers to keep watching. So how can you get your audience invested in your content? What question do you want to inspire them to ask?</li><li><strong>Know your target. </strong>This is a bit tongue-in-cheek, but just like the sisters truly knew their brother-in-law and all the ways they could potentially do him in, so should marketers get to know their audience so they can appeal to them. Brian says, “The sisters do a lot of research and they really know their target audience. Like, what does JP like to eat? What does he like to drink? If you were to poison him, how would you do that? So they really do research, like, ‘What are the ways that we can do this and get away with it, and free our sister from the prison of her marriage?’ So they really do their kind of their targeting and their research, which I think any good marketer does.”</li><li><strong>Do trial and error.</strong> Try different marketing strategies and keep dialing it in based on data you get from the tests. Brian says, “[The sisters] do that right throughout the show. Like, they're testing ways to bump this guy off. Some of them end in sort of miserable failure and some of them have some potential of succeeding and you're never quite sure. Not unlike a lot of digital campaigns, where you're trying to find that perfect balance and the right approach.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”I think for marketers, if you're not pushing the envelope, testing new messaging and testing new approaches to your website, conversion, optimization, your customer journey, your buyer's journey, then you're not trying hard enough. You're not getting enough data from the market to optimize and improve.”</p><p>*”In a B2B context, it is tough to really identify a villain. And that kind of marketing turns me off. Some companies will identify their competitors as villains and really go after them. As a marketer, I would say instead of identifying your competitors as a villain, which I think is a mistake, you look at either the cost of doing nothing, or like, ‘What is the counterpoint to your mission?’”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Brian Finnerty, CMO at D2L</p><p>[3:02] D2L and Brian's Role as CMO</p><p>[4:04] How <i>Bad Sisters </i>was created</p><p>[9:30] Authenticity and Cultural Representation</p><p>[22:18] B2B Marketing Takeaways from <i>Bad Sisters</i></p><p>[22:21] The Importance of a Good Hook</p><p>[23:00] Research and Targeting in Marketing</p><p>[24:08] Trial and Error in Marketing</p><p>[28:30] Creating a Great Villain</p><p>[33:48] Brand and Content Strategy</p><p>[36:10] Effective Content Marketing</p><p>[38:34] Leveraging Content Across Teams</p><p>[42:58] Favorite Campaigns and Final Advice</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfinnerty/">Connect with Brian on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.d2l.com/">Learn more about D2L</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Brian Finnerty, Ian Faison, Scott Goodrich, Meredith Gooderham)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hooking your audience is one thing, but keeping them emotionally invested in your content is another. </p><p>So for this episode of Remarkable, we’re taking marketing lessons on doing just that from the Irish dark comedy, <i>Bad Sisters.</i></p><p>It’s a show about four sisters who plot to kill their diabolical brother-in-law, and the season starts with his funeral.</p><p>Series creator, Sharon Horgan, says, “We had to keep an audience with us for 10 episodes and keep them wanting the same outcome." That is, the death of their brother-in-law, John Paul. </p><p>So with the help of our special guest, D2L CMO Brian Finnerty, we’re talking about hooking your audience, knowing your target, and doing trial and error. </p><p><strong>About our guest, Brian Finnerty</strong></p><p>Brian Finnerty is a B2B marketing specialist with over 25 years experience leading enterprise marketing teams. He currently serves as CMO at D2L. His expertise includes brand strategy, B2B demand generation, and global customer acquisition from mid-market to Fortune 500. He previously served as VP of Revenue Marketing for Udacity. Prior to joining Udacity, Brian served as VP of Growth Marketing at Demandbase, where he was responsible for demand generation, field marketing, and customer marketing at Demandbase. Brian has also been a marketing leader at two ad tech companies, Marin Software and Smaato. He co-founded an e-learning startup that specialized in software developer training, with a rules-based code judging engine. He is an active Customer Advisory Board member for both 6sense and Sendoso.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Bad Sisters</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Start with a hook. </strong><i>Bad Sisters </i>grabs viewers’ attention because it’s about four sisters plotting to kill their brother-in-law, and it starts with his funeral. So the question is: “How did he die?” This is what drives viewers to keep watching. So how can you get your audience invested in your content? What question do you want to inspire them to ask?</li><li><strong>Know your target. </strong>This is a bit tongue-in-cheek, but just like the sisters truly knew their brother-in-law and all the ways they could potentially do him in, so should marketers get to know their audience so they can appeal to them. Brian says, “The sisters do a lot of research and they really know their target audience. Like, what does JP like to eat? What does he like to drink? If you were to poison him, how would you do that? So they really do research, like, ‘What are the ways that we can do this and get away with it, and free our sister from the prison of her marriage?’ So they really do their kind of their targeting and their research, which I think any good marketer does.”</li><li><strong>Do trial and error.</strong> Try different marketing strategies and keep dialing it in based on data you get from the tests. Brian says, “[The sisters] do that right throughout the show. Like, they're testing ways to bump this guy off. Some of them end in sort of miserable failure and some of them have some potential of succeeding and you're never quite sure. Not unlike a lot of digital campaigns, where you're trying to find that perfect balance and the right approach.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”I think for marketers, if you're not pushing the envelope, testing new messaging and testing new approaches to your website, conversion, optimization, your customer journey, your buyer's journey, then you're not trying hard enough. You're not getting enough data from the market to optimize and improve.”</p><p>*”In a B2B context, it is tough to really identify a villain. And that kind of marketing turns me off. Some companies will identify their competitors as villains and really go after them. As a marketer, I would say instead of identifying your competitors as a villain, which I think is a mistake, you look at either the cost of doing nothing, or like, ‘What is the counterpoint to your mission?’”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Brian Finnerty, CMO at D2L</p><p>[3:02] D2L and Brian's Role as CMO</p><p>[4:04] How <i>Bad Sisters </i>was created</p><p>[9:30] Authenticity and Cultural Representation</p><p>[22:18] B2B Marketing Takeaways from <i>Bad Sisters</i></p><p>[22:21] The Importance of a Good Hook</p><p>[23:00] Research and Targeting in Marketing</p><p>[24:08] Trial and Error in Marketing</p><p>[28:30] Creating a Great Villain</p><p>[33:48] Brand and Content Strategy</p><p>[36:10] Effective Content Marketing</p><p>[38:34] Leveraging Content Across Teams</p><p>[42:58] Favorite Campaigns and Final Advice</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfinnerty/">Connect with Brian on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.d2l.com/">Learn more about D2L</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>Hooking your audience is one thing, but keeping them emotionally invested in your content is another. 

So for this episode of Remarkable, we’re taking marketing lessons on doing just that from the Irish dark comedy, Bad Sisters.

It’s a show about four sisters who plot to kill their diabolical brother-in-law, and the season starts with his funeral.

Series creator, Sharon Horgan, says, “We had to keep an audience with us for 10 episodes and keep them wanting the same outcome.&quot; That is, the death of their brother-in-law, John Paul. 

So with the help of our special guest, D2L CMO Brian Finnerty, we’re talking about hooking your audience, knowing your target, and doing trial and error.</itunes:summary>
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So for this episode of Remarkable, we’re taking marketing lessons on doing just that from the Irish dark comedy, Bad Sisters.

It’s a show about four sisters who plot to kill their diabolical brother-in-law, and the season starts with his funeral.

Series creator, Sharon Horgan, says, “We had to keep an audience with us for 10 episodes and keep them wanting the same outcome.&quot; That is, the death of their brother-in-law, John Paul. 

So with the help of our special guest, D2L CMO Brian Finnerty, we’re talking about hooking your audience, knowing your target, and doing trial and error.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>“Each man carried, along with a sea chest, his own burdensome story.” - Excerpt from <i>The Wager</i>, by David Grann</p><p>This is true not only for the men that sailed on the HMS Wager, but your audience and customers (minus the sea chests). </p><p>Just as David Grann took those burdensome stories from journal entries to write <i>The Wager</i>, so too can you use the burdensome stories of your customers in your marketing.</p><p>This is one of the things we’re talking about in this episode of Remarkable with the help of our special guest, former Director of Content Marketing at Authentic8, Shannon Ragan.</p><p>Together, we draw marketing lessons from David Grann’s book, <i>The Wager, </i>including going to the source, shaping your stories as stranger than fiction, and sourcing those stories from the smallest footnote.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Shannon Ragan</strong></p><p>Shannon Ragan is the former Director of Content Marketing at Authentic8. She joined the company in September 2020 as Content Marketing Senior Manager. She is also a producer and co-host of NeedleStack: the OSINT podcast. She previously served as Senior Marketing Communications Manager at Skybox Security. She has been blogging in the cybersecurity industry for ten years and vows to never write another Patch Tuesday update again.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> The Wager</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Go to the source.</strong> Talk to your customers to understand what matters most to them. And use that in your messaging. Shannon says, “Experience it yourself, as authentically as you can. I think that is a huge thing in content marketing. I feel like there is often a lot of gatekeeping between sales and marketing to customers that it's like, ‘No, I don't want the marketing team to talk to my customers.’ It's the practitioners, the people using your tool, your product, that you need to talk to the most. And so any amount of time that you can get with them [is valuable].” In <i>The Wager</i>, David Grann actually sailed the same route that the crew of the HMS Wager did to see what it was really like. That was the only way he could write authentically about the experience.</li><li><strong>Shape your stories as stranger than fiction.</strong> When you do talk to your audience or your customers, get their war stories about the struggles they’ve had that your product will solve. Shannon says that having a podcast has been a great platform for sharing those stories. She says, “I think the true stories are the most interesting. And so getting  people that live it, walk the walk, do it every day to kind of tell their war stories and their learnings along the way, and be able to share those with our audience under our brand without really having to talk too much about ourselves has just been a great brand builder and gotten people into our orbit. And then once they know us and like us and love us, then it's really easy to be like, ‘By the way, we have this great product I think you'll like.’” It’s like how <i>The Wager</i> is a true story that, in David Grann’s telling, feels closer to fiction because of the detail and expressive voices he includes. And he was able to do that through the use of primary sources. So use your primary sources - your audience and customers - to write your marketing messages. </li><li><strong>Stories can start with the smallest footnote. </strong>When David Grann was doing research for <i>The Wager</i>, he was looking through lists of people who boarded the ship. And next to many names, he saw “DD,” which he discovered meant “Dispatched Dead.” It was through researching the deeper story behind this two-letter abbreviation that he uncovered stories of scurvy and the overall human toll of the voyage. Look for the small footnotes that could tell you a much deeper story for use in your marketing.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Kill your darlings. It is the thing that is most difficult to do to your own work, because it's the thing that you're like, ‘But I grew this babe in my womb. I can't get rid of it.’ And it's like, you do it in service of the rest of the thing that you have tended and grown. And it's such a hard lesson to learn and you have to teach it to yourself over and over again. Like David Grann had to teach it to himself again. But it makes a good writer.” - Shannon Ragan</p><p>*”One of my biggest pieces of advice is that part of your strategy should be co-creating content with your prospects and customers. Like, that should be a pillar of your strategy. 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So yeah, think about where you want to end up, and then build your strategy and your editorial path to get there.” - Shannon Ragan</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Shannon Ragan, former Director of Content Marketing at Authentic8</p><p>[3:50] Content Marketing Insights from <i>The Wager</i></p><p>[5:33] David Grann's Research Journey</p><p>[14:33] Crafting Authentic Content</p><p>[15:21] Engaging with Customers through Content</p><p>[16:11] The Power of Co-Creating Content</p><p>[25:30] Marketing Strategy Overhaul</p><p>[38:05] Character Development in Writing</p><p>[42:06] Final Thoughts on Content Strategy</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shannonragan/">Connect with Shannon on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.authentic8.com/">Learn more about Authentic8</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Each man carried, along with a sea chest, his own burdensome story.” - Excerpt from <i>The Wager</i>, by David Grann</p><p>This is true not only for the men that sailed on the HMS Wager, but your audience and customers (minus the sea chests). </p><p>Just as David Grann took those burdensome stories from journal entries to write <i>The Wager</i>, so too can you use the burdensome stories of your customers in your marketing.</p><p>This is one of the things we’re talking about in this episode of Remarkable with the help of our special guest, former Director of Content Marketing at Authentic8, Shannon Ragan.</p><p>Together, we draw marketing lessons from David Grann’s book, <i>The Wager, </i>including going to the source, shaping your stories as stranger than fiction, and sourcing those stories from the smallest footnote.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Shannon Ragan</strong></p><p>Shannon Ragan is the former Director of Content Marketing at Authentic8. She joined the company in September 2020 as Content Marketing Senior Manager. She is also a producer and co-host of NeedleStack: the OSINT podcast. She previously served as Senior Marketing Communications Manager at Skybox Security. She has been blogging in the cybersecurity industry for ten years and vows to never write another Patch Tuesday update again.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> The Wager</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Go to the source.</strong> Talk to your customers to understand what matters most to them. And use that in your messaging. Shannon says, “Experience it yourself, as authentically as you can. I think that is a huge thing in content marketing. I feel like there is often a lot of gatekeeping between sales and marketing to customers that it's like, ‘No, I don't want the marketing team to talk to my customers.’ It's the practitioners, the people using your tool, your product, that you need to talk to the most. 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And then once they know us and like us and love us, then it's really easy to be like, ‘By the way, we have this great product I think you'll like.’” It’s like how <i>The Wager</i> is a true story that, in David Grann’s telling, feels closer to fiction because of the detail and expressive voices he includes. And he was able to do that through the use of primary sources. So use your primary sources - your audience and customers - to write your marketing messages. </li><li><strong>Stories can start with the smallest footnote. </strong>When David Grann was doing research for <i>The Wager</i>, he was looking through lists of people who boarded the ship. And next to many names, he saw “DD,” which he discovered meant “Dispatched Dead.” It was through researching the deeper story behind this two-letter abbreviation that he uncovered stories of scurvy and the overall human toll of the voyage. 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And all of the people who can't give you testimonials, who aren't legal approved to give you a quote, who can't do all that stuff, can come on your podcast and talk about everything but the thing.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”Think about where you want to end up. Like, do you want people to thank you for your content marketing? And if so, how do you build the path to get there? 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Just as David Grann took those burdensome stories from journal entries to write The Wager, so too can you use the burdensome stories of your customers in your marketing.

This is one of the things we’re talking about in this episode of Remarkable with the help of our special guest, former Director of Content Marketing at Authentic8, Shannon Ragan.

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Just as David Grann took those burdensome stories from journal entries to write The Wager, so too can you use the burdensome stories of your customers in your marketing.

This is one of the things we’re talking about in this episode of Remarkable with the help of our special guest, former Director of Content Marketing at Authentic8, Shannon Ragan.

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      <description><![CDATA[<p><i>Doctor Who</i> has been around for over 60 years and attracted over 12 million viewers.</p><p>In our book, that makes it ripe with marketing lessons. </p><p>Because wouldn’t you also want your brand to be around for over 60 years, and to have that many eyes on your content at once?</p><p>So in this episode, we’re talking about the long-running show with a cult following, <i>Doctor Who</i>.</p><p>Together with the help of our special guest, CEO of WorkProud & Online Rewards, Michael John Levy, we’re talking about keeping the essence of your branding through the years, using jingles, and using time travel in your storytelling.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Michael John Levy</strong></p><p>CEO Michael Levy leads both Online Rewards and WorkProud and has achieved 13 consecutive years on the Inc. 5000 Fastest-Growing Companies list. His company is a leading provider of workplace culture and people success solutions who believe employees are a company’s greatest asset.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Doctor Who</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Keep the essence of your branding through the years.</strong> As your company ages, refine and modernize your content. But keep the essence of what makes your brand or company unique. Ian says, “There's an importance of continuity that is a great lesson for <i>Doctor Who</i>, which is like, there's certain things that can change, and there's certain things that don't. And once you establish it, then that needs to be the way it is.” It’s like how the evil robotic beings, the Daleks, first appeared on Doctor Who in the 1960s. But then Michael says, “they then continued to exist like a multiverse, and they kept appearing over time. And as modern production techniques continued to improve and various doctors would appear, they would still, however, be stuck with the original form of the Dalek suit from the 1960s.” But they became iconic as part of the Doctor Who brand. So decide what is unchangeable, and what you can continue to dial in, refine and improve.</li><li><strong>Use jingles.</strong> Jingles aren’t used that much in B2B marketing, but in Doctor Who, music is an important part of the show. Michael says, “A small melody snippet as part of the intro and closure was a key anchor component.” And Ian adds, “Jingles are like one of the most underused marketing devices of our modern era. Back in the day, everything had a jingle.” The more senses you appeal to, the deeper, more multifaceted your brand identity becomes, and the more easily your audience will recall your company when making a purchasing decision.</li><li><strong>Elicit nostalgia through time travel.</strong> Send the characters of your marketing back in time and invite your audience to relive the good old days. Ian says, “We always talk about wanting to elicit nostalgia. Why not make a character, make your key persona, you know, CHRO, and send them back in time. Send them back five years ago. Send them back 10 years. You need someone who is doing the traveling to these other places so that they can experience it. It's ripe for discussion and you don't need to land the plane like you do like Marvel had to land the plane when they did the Multiverse and went back in time. As a marketer, you don't need to finish the story. 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But as a marketing team, if you can help as the crafter of stories, it can help with retention. It can help with recruiting.” - Ian Faison</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Michael John Levy, CEO of WorkProud and Online Rewards</p><p>[2:32] Michael Levy's Journey with Online Rewards and WorkProud</p><p>[4:02] The Power of Storytelling in Business</p><p>[8:42] The Origins of Doctor Who</p><p>[15:06] The Evolution of Doctor Who's Characters and Branding</p><p>[19:47] Comparing Doctor Who to Modern Brands</p><p>[27:31] Exploring Doctor Who's Production</p><p>[29:24] The Power of Soundtracks in Marketing</p><p>[30:39] The Impact of Jingles in Advertising</p><p>[33:12] Time Travel in Marketing</p><p>[51:48] The Role of Storytelling in Marketing</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-levy-b798189/">Connect with Michael John Levy</a></p><p>Learn more about <a href="https://online-rewards.com/">Online Rewards</a> and <a href="https://workproud.com/">WorkProud</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. 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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Doctor Who</i> has been around for over 60 years and attracted over 12 million viewers.</p><p>In our book, that makes it ripe with marketing lessons. </p><p>Because wouldn’t you also want your brand to be around for over 60 years, and to have that many eyes on your content at once?</p><p>So in this episode, we’re talking about the long-running show with a cult following, <i>Doctor Who</i>.</p><p>Together with the help of our special guest, CEO of WorkProud & Online Rewards, Michael John Levy, we’re talking about keeping the essence of your branding through the years, using jingles, and using time travel in your storytelling.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Michael John Levy</strong></p><p>CEO Michael Levy leads both Online Rewards and WorkProud and has achieved 13 consecutive years on the Inc. 5000 Fastest-Growing Companies list. 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And as modern production techniques continued to improve and various doctors would appear, they would still, however, be stuck with the original form of the Dalek suit from the 1960s.” But they became iconic as part of the Doctor Who brand. So decide what is unchangeable, and what you can continue to dial in, refine and improve.</li><li><strong>Use jingles.</strong> Jingles aren’t used that much in B2B marketing, but in Doctor Who, music is an important part of the show. Michael says, “A small melody snippet as part of the intro and closure was a key anchor component.” And Ian adds, “Jingles are like one of the most underused marketing devices of our modern era. 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      <description><![CDATA[<p>What if you created a campaign so good, so coveted, that users looked forward to it every year? </p><p>And what’s more, non-users convert just to be a part of it.</p><p>We’re referring to the viral marketing campaign, Spotify Wrapped, and how they made their marketing masterpiece.</p><p>We’re doing it all with the help of our special guest, Head of Marketing at Postman, Justine Davis.</p><p>Together, we talk about making or buying exclusive content, sharing insights about your customers, and much more.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Justine Davis</strong></p><p>Justine Davis is Head of Marketing at API platform Postman. She previously served as  Head of Marketing for Atlassian’s Agile and DevOps suite of products. With over 9 years experience working with DevOps teams and tools, Justine is passionate about solving needs for customers. Outside of work Justine is a mom, avid reader, and loves to close the move goal rings in sunny Scottsdale, AZ on her Apple Watch.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Spotify Wrapped:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Make or buy exclusive content.</strong> It’s like how you can only get your own Spotify Wrapped if you subscribe to Spotify. The campaign got people to convert from Apple Music and other streaming services just because they wanted to get their own Spotify Wrapped at the end of the year. Having exclusive content will get people to convert to your platform. Justine says, “Their strategy was: ‘Build for audio and not music.’ This was the HBO model a little bit, which is they acquired podcasts that were with them exclusively. So like, if you wanted to listen to them - and love them or hate them, Joe Rogan is one of the biggest in the game and it was exclusive on Spotify for a long time - you had to go sign up for Spotify. So it worked very well for them.”</li><li><strong>Share interesting insights about your customers. </strong>You’re gathering tons of data about your customers. Feed it back to them as interesting and informative insights. It can be useful or even entertaining for them. It’s like how Spotify made billboards highlighting unusual playlist names, and even how often someone listened to a particular song. Ian says, “You're finding data about your customers that is really funny and weird and interesting and unique. You're sharing that with other people. You're putting it on a billboard or somewhere, and then you're taking photos of it and then sharing the photos of the billboards all over.” Just those few data points make for a myriad of opportunities to share with customers who then will want to share with the world.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Spotify Wrapped is the perfect piece of serialized content. You get to come out with it every year. People know what's coming. They know what to expect and they're looking to you, not only to tell them what their Spotify Wrapped is, but also to make funny jokes about all the other people who made ridiculous stuff.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”You have to place your bets in a lot of different areas to grab attention. And understand that the user may hear it on repeat. So have that message be consistent across channels and in different formats.” - Justine Davis</p><p>*”We've invested very heavily in community as well as a big piece of brand marketing, because there's no better advocate than your customers.” - Justine Davis</p><p>*“The nirvana for someone doing content marketing is to create a little mini franchise, little mini brand of their marketing that people look forward to. I don't care at all about any other content that Spotify makes, but I care about Spotify Wrapped. It’s a perfect encapsulation of how your brand can be, where it's like people can care just about one thing that you make and not anything else. But the fact that you make that one thing is super valuable to them.” - Ian Faison</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Justine Davis, Head of Marketing at Postman</p><p>[12:16] Postman and API Marketing</p><p>[14:23] The Origin and Evolution of Spotify Wrapped</p><p>[22:29] The Power of Billboard Campaigns</p><p>[27:04] Spotify Wrapped: A Marketing Masterpiece</p><p>[27:53] Using Spotify Wrapped for Team Building</p><p>[29:21] Integrated Marketing Campaigns</p><p>[34:41] Investing in Podcasts</p><p>[38:58] Postman: Content and Brand Strategy</p><p>[47:14] Upcoming Postman Features</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinedavis8/">Connect with Justine on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.postman.com/">Learn more about Postman</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if you created a campaign so good, so coveted, that users looked forward to it every year? </p><p>And what’s more, non-users convert just to be a part of it.</p><p>We’re referring to the viral marketing campaign, Spotify Wrapped, and how they made their marketing masterpiece.</p><p>We’re doing it all with the help of our special guest, Head of Marketing at Postman, Justine Davis.</p><p>Together, we talk about making or buying exclusive content, sharing insights about your customers, and much more.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Justine Davis</strong></p><p>Justine Davis is Head of Marketing at API platform Postman. She previously served as  Head of Marketing for Atlassian’s Agile and DevOps suite of products. With over 9 years experience working with DevOps teams and tools, Justine is passionate about solving needs for customers. Outside of work Justine is a mom, avid reader, and loves to close the move goal rings in sunny Scottsdale, AZ on her Apple Watch.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Spotify Wrapped:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Make or buy exclusive content.</strong> It’s like how you can only get your own Spotify Wrapped if you subscribe to Spotify. The campaign got people to convert from Apple Music and other streaming services just because they wanted to get their own Spotify Wrapped at the end of the year. Having exclusive content will get people to convert to your platform. Justine says, “Their strategy was: ‘Build for audio and not music.’ This was the HBO model a little bit, which is they acquired podcasts that were with them exclusively. So like, if you wanted to listen to them - and love them or hate them, Joe Rogan is one of the biggest in the game and it was exclusive on Spotify for a long time - you had to go sign up for Spotify. So it worked very well for them.”</li><li><strong>Share interesting insights about your customers. </strong>You’re gathering tons of data about your customers. Feed it back to them as interesting and informative insights. It can be useful or even entertaining for them. It’s like how Spotify made billboards highlighting unusual playlist names, and even how often someone listened to a particular song. Ian says, “You're finding data about your customers that is really funny and weird and interesting and unique. You're sharing that with other people. You're putting it on a billboard or somewhere, and then you're taking photos of it and then sharing the photos of the billboards all over.” Just those few data points make for a myriad of opportunities to share with customers who then will want to share with the world.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Spotify Wrapped is the perfect piece of serialized content. You get to come out with it every year. People know what's coming. 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But the fact that you make that one thing is super valuable to them.” - Ian Faison</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Justine Davis, Head of Marketing at Postman</p><p>[12:16] Postman and API Marketing</p><p>[14:23] The Origin and Evolution of Spotify Wrapped</p><p>[22:29] The Power of Billboard Campaigns</p><p>[27:04] Spotify Wrapped: A Marketing Masterpiece</p><p>[27:53] Using Spotify Wrapped for Team Building</p><p>[29:21] Integrated Marketing Campaigns</p><p>[34:41] Investing in Podcasts</p><p>[38:58] Postman: Content and Brand Strategy</p><p>[47:14] Upcoming Postman Features</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinedavis8/">Connect with Justine on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.postman.com/">Learn more about Postman</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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We’re referring to the viral marketing campaign, Spotify Wrapped, and how they made their marketing masterpiece.

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And what’s more, non-users convert just to be a part of it.

We’re referring to the viral marketing campaign, Spotify Wrapped, and how they made their marketing masterpiece.

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      <description><![CDATA[<p>John Cena says that in the early days of his career, he struggled to break through as a WWE superstar.</p><p>Cena says that’s because “people didn’t know who I was. They couldn’t connect to John Cena coming out in different tights and boots every time. No one could attach to who I was.”</p><p>He says, “As entertainers, we kinda want to attach. You try to work on your character so people will relate to them and want to attach to them.”</p><p>And when we talk about edu-taining, entertainment is half of that. Getting your consumer to attach to you is what we’re all about on Remarkable. </p><p>So in this episode, we’re helping you become marketing superstars and drive that brand attachment with your consumers.</p><p>To do that, we’re looking at parallels between the WWE and marketing. </p><p>With the help of our special guest, US Market Brand Evangelist, Carlos Gil, we’ll talk about evolving with your consumer, giving your content personality, and much more.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Carlos Gil</strong></p><p>Carlos Gil is a marketing expert with over 15 years of corporate digital and social media experience, and the bestselling author of ‘The End of Marketing’. Specializing in driving ROI through cost-effective, organic growth marketing strategies aimed at fostering customer loyalty and leading digital innovation for organizations. As a trusted subject matter expert, Carlos provides impactful marketing strategies for C-suite executives and corporate brands seeking provocative approaches to stand out in today’s crowded digital ecosystem.</p><p>As the Brand Evangelist at GetResponse, Carlos leads strategic initiatives to boost the brand's visibility and foster partnerships in the U.S. Leveraging his expertise in brand building, digital marketing, and growth strategies.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>WWE:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Evolve with your consumer. </strong>Adjust your brand messaging and content to fit your target consumer. Aim to resonate not just with them, but with the cultural zeitgeist of the time and place. Carlos says, “You've got to evolve in business or your brand is going to cease to exist long term. And the reason for that is because your consumer is not going to be around forever. I love how WWE has this magical appeal to bring back like the vets, right? Like The Rock, John Cena, Undertaker. Like every time they bring these guys back, they're bringing them back strategically to appeal to an older consumer. Same thing happens in the world of brand marketing, you know, brands find ways to connect with older audiences or audiences that maybe have left them. They do remarketing campaigns or retargeting campaigns.”</li><li><strong>Give your content personality. </strong>If your brand was a wrestler, what would they be like? What would their signature moves be? Don’t be afraid to be different, loud, and have catch phrases. Carlos says, “Randy Savage was one of my favorite wrestlers because he was out there. He was loud. He was larger than life and he had a very distinctive voice. He had the catchphrase, ‘Oh yeah!’ He was just different as a wrestler. And to stand out in today's noisy digital ecosystem, you have to be loud. You have to find ways to be different. You can't say the same thing that everyone's saying. Your content can't look like every other brand.”  </li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”I'm not a proponent of, ‘You have to go to my Twitter account to see a tease of a piece of content to then click outside of Twitter to then go to a website to give me your information to then get an email with a downloadable PDF that you really can't do anything with.’ It's too many steps. Remove the friction. Make content easily accessible to your audience.”</p><p>*”If your content looks like every other brand out there that you're competing with, you're going to just get lost. You're going to get lost in the noise.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Carlos Gil, US Market Brand Evangelist at GetResponse</p><p>[3:01] Wrestling's Storytelling and Marketing Parallels</p><p>[6:55] Evolution of WWE and Business Lessons</p><p>[8:48] Carlos’ Role at GetResponse</p><p>[10:53] Understanding WWE and Its History</p><p>[14:49] WWE's Business Model and Media Strategy</p><p>[19:26] Content Marketing Lessons from WWE</p><p>[26:52] The Art of Storytelling in Wrestling</p><p>[31:49] Marketing Lessons from Wrestling</p><p>[33:38] The Power of Storytelling in Business</p><p>[43:40] Be Different: Marketing Like a Pro Wrestler</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/carlosgilonline/">Connect with Carlos on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.getresponse.com/">Learn more about GetResponse</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Cena says that in the early days of his career, he struggled to break through as a WWE superstar.</p><p>Cena says that’s because “people didn’t know who I was. They couldn’t connect to John Cena coming out in different tights and boots every time. No one could attach to who I was.”</p><p>He says, “As entertainers, we kinda want to attach. You try to work on your character so people will relate to them and want to attach to them.”</p><p>And when we talk about edu-taining, entertainment is half of that. Getting your consumer to attach to you is what we’re all about on Remarkable. </p><p>So in this episode, we’re helping you become marketing superstars and drive that brand attachment with your consumers.</p><p>To do that, we’re looking at parallels between the WWE and marketing. </p><p>With the help of our special guest, US Market Brand Evangelist, Carlos Gil, we’ll talk about evolving with your consumer, giving your content personality, and much more.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Carlos Gil</strong></p><p>Carlos Gil is a marketing expert with over 15 years of corporate digital and social media experience, and the bestselling author of ‘The End of Marketing’. Specializing in driving ROI through cost-effective, organic growth marketing strategies aimed at fostering customer loyalty and leading digital innovation for organizations. As a trusted subject matter expert, Carlos provides impactful marketing strategies for C-suite executives and corporate brands seeking provocative approaches to stand out in today’s crowded digital ecosystem.</p><p>As the Brand Evangelist at GetResponse, Carlos leads strategic initiatives to boost the brand's visibility and foster partnerships in the U.S. Leveraging his expertise in brand building, digital marketing, and growth strategies.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>WWE:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Evolve with your consumer. </strong>Adjust your brand messaging and content to fit your target consumer. Aim to resonate not just with them, but with the cultural zeitgeist of the time and place. Carlos says, “You've got to evolve in business or your brand is going to cease to exist long term. And the reason for that is because your consumer is not going to be around forever. I love how WWE has this magical appeal to bring back like the vets, right? Like The Rock, John Cena, Undertaker. Like every time they bring these guys back, they're bringing them back strategically to appeal to an older consumer. Same thing happens in the world of brand marketing, you know, brands find ways to connect with older audiences or audiences that maybe have left them. They do remarketing campaigns or retargeting campaigns.”</li><li><strong>Give your content personality. </strong>If your brand was a wrestler, what would they be like? What would their signature moves be? Don’t be afraid to be different, loud, and have catch phrases. Carlos says, “Randy Savage was one of my favorite wrestlers because he was out there. He was loud. He was larger than life and he had a very distinctive voice. He had the catchphrase, ‘Oh yeah!’ He was just different as a wrestler. And to stand out in today's noisy digital ecosystem, you have to be loud. You have to find ways to be different. 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You're going to get lost in the noise.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Carlos Gil, US Market Brand Evangelist at GetResponse</p><p>[3:01] Wrestling's Storytelling and Marketing Parallels</p><p>[6:55] Evolution of WWE and Business Lessons</p><p>[8:48] Carlos’ Role at GetResponse</p><p>[10:53] Understanding WWE and Its History</p><p>[14:49] WWE's Business Model and Media Strategy</p><p>[19:26] Content Marketing Lessons from WWE</p><p>[26:52] The Art of Storytelling in Wrestling</p><p>[31:49] Marketing Lessons from Wrestling</p><p>[33:38] The Power of Storytelling in Business</p><p>[43:40] Be Different: Marketing Like a Pro Wrestler</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/carlosgilonline/">Connect with Carlos on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.getresponse.com/">Learn more about GetResponse</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. 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And when we talk about edu-taining, entertainment is half of that. Getting your consumer to attach to you is what we’re all about on Remarkable. 

So in this episode, we’re helping you become marketing superstars and drive that brand attachment with your consumers.

To do that, we’re looking at parallels between the WWE and marketing. 

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He says, “As entertainers, we kinda want to attach. You try to work on your character so people will relate to them and want to attach to them.”

And when we talk about edu-taining, entertainment is half of that. Getting your consumer to attach to you is what we’re all about on Remarkable. 

So in this episode, we’re helping you become marketing superstars and drive that brand attachment with your consumers.

To do that, we’re looking at parallels between the WWE and marketing. 

With the help of our special guest, US Market Brand Evangelist, Carlos Gil, we’ll talk about evolving with your consumer, giving your content personality, and much more.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Ask yourself: “What is the magic of my brand?” </p><p>Every brand has it. It’s the special offering your company has that no other one does.</p><p>That’s where you focus the message of your content. And it’s one of the things we’re talking about today.</p><p>In this episode, we’re learning from the magic of the world of Disney. </p><p>With the help of our special guest, Domo CMO Mark Boothe, we’ll talk about working your magic, focusing on feeling, and the power of distribution.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Mark Boothe</strong></p><p>Mark Boothe is Chief Marketing Officer at Domo. Mark brings over 15 years of diverse marketing experience and is passionate about driving Domo’s business growth through marketing initiatives. His mission is to empower all Domo customers and prospects with the insights and tools they need to make better business decisions and achieve their goals. In his previous role as VP of Community, Partner, and Field Marketing, Mark and his teams established new and strengthened existing programs to address customer pain points and create a greater sense of community. They also executed campaigns, programs and events that showcase the value of the Domo platform.</p><p>Before joining Domo, Mark spent more than 10 years working in customer relations and marketing at Adobe and worked at Instructure as its senior director of customer marketing. He received his MBA from Utah State University and a bachelor’s degree from Brigham Young University. Outside of work, Mark enjoys spending time with his family and traveling.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Disney:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Work your magic.</strong> Whatever the magic is that your brand has, that magic that sets you apart from competitors - make that the focus of your content. Mark says, “For Domo specifically, what's our magic? We're really, really good at helping people to use data effectively. We can help them make accessible interactions and interactive automations and simple integrations. We help people get value out of their data. And so for us, that's what the magic is. So we have to make that simple. We have to make it easy. We may have to make it understandable and the product has to work. That's what remembering the magic looks like for a software company that's selling visualization and BI and automation software.”</li><li><strong>Focus on feeling.</strong> Does your content feel like it’s part of the brand? Does it all evoke the same feeling? Ian says, “One of the things that Disney understands so well is the importance of the property fitting into their overall brand, but that the properties all are standalones. And I think that this is not something that we really understand in marketing. Like, we get obsessed with the colors or the style. We obsess over making it look right instead of feel right. But Disney, the brand is all about the way it makes you feel.”</li><li><strong>Have a distribution plan for your content.</strong> Before you make any content, make sure you have a plan to get it out in the world, and in front of the right people. Mark says, “For so long the phrase has been content is king. But my fight would be that distribution is emperor. Yes, content is really, really important. And it's amazing what you can do with really good content, but you can do a heck of a lot more with really good content that has exceptional distribution behind it. I can do really good things with really bad content that has exceptional distribution strategies and tactics put behind it. The key is, how do you make sure that you're developing and creating and synthesizing really good content that you can then put the right kind of resources behind so that you get it in front of the people that you really care about?”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”For so long the phrase has been content is king. But my fight would be that distribution is emperor.”</p><p>*”I'm a big fan of test, test, test, test, test, test, and learn. But you live in a world today where you can make micro optimizations to pieces of content and things. So use the technology and the things that are in place to be able to make the micro changes you need to make content work.”</p><p>*”Content is everyone's responsibility at this point. No matter what discipline you are in within marketing, you are a content marketer. We get so caught up sometimes then, ‘Hey, this quarter we're going to do X number of blog posts.’ Why? To what end? ‘We're going to create this many YouTube videos.’ Okay, ‘we're going to create a whole bunch of stuff on TikTok.’ Great! Like, what's the purpose? And backing up enough to say, Who's the audience? If your ICP is for a certain amount of these accounts that look like this, and these people who buy like this and need these things, and yet you're talking to all of them in the same way, you're going to fail.”</p><p>*”Take the time to create really, really good content. We're not in the days anymore of ‘If you build it, they will come.’ There is more content generated right now than in any other time. So just to build good content doesn't get the job done. Building good content and then having that distribution strategy and then being willing to make the micro changes you need to, you'll give it a good shot.”</p><p>*”Don't be afraid to fail sometimes. If failure is, ‘We learned a whole lot of stuff and we won't make that same mistake again,’ then it wasn't really failure.”</p><p>*”Make sure as a marketer, you're staying true to the creative piece of your job, but that you're using data to make sure that it's all a strong reality. Cause I think too often, we can fall to either side, whether it's we're falling too hard on the creative side or we're falling too hard on the data side. And it is, it's an art and a science. So nail both the art and science.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Mark Boothe, CMO of Domo</p><p>[2:33] The Launch of Disney Plus</p><p>[4:25] Disney Plus Marketing Strategies</p><p>[7:36] The Impact of Disney Plus on Consumers</p><p>[18:13] Content and Distribution in B2B Marketing</p><p>[22:05] Creating Quality Content in Business</p><p>[22:20] The Importance of Distribution Strategy</p><p>[22:43] Learning from Failures</p><p>[22:58] Challenges in Content Creation</p><p>[25:21] Investing in Brand and Community</p><p>[27:14] The Role of Community in Customer Retention</p><p>[28:25] Evaluating Content ROI</p><p>[29:32] Building a Customer-Centric Community</p><p>[32:00] The Impact of Community Initiatives</p><p>[35:50] Balancing Creativity and Data in Marketing</p><p>[37:57] Advice for other CMOs</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/markboothe1/">Connect with Mark on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.domo.com/">Learn more about Domo</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ask yourself: “What is the magic of my brand?” </p><p>Every brand has it. It’s the special offering your company has that no other one does.</p><p>That’s where you focus the message of your content. And it’s one of the things we’re talking about today.</p><p>In this episode, we’re learning from the magic of the world of Disney. </p><p>With the help of our special guest, Domo CMO Mark Boothe, we’ll talk about working your magic, focusing on feeling, and the power of distribution.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Mark Boothe</strong></p><p>Mark Boothe is Chief Marketing Officer at Domo. Mark brings over 15 years of diverse marketing experience and is passionate about driving Domo’s business growth through marketing initiatives. His mission is to empower all Domo customers and prospects with the insights and tools they need to make better business decisions and achieve their goals. In his previous role as VP of Community, Partner, and Field Marketing, Mark and his teams established new and strengthened existing programs to address customer pain points and create a greater sense of community. They also executed campaigns, programs and events that showcase the value of the Domo platform.</p><p>Before joining Domo, Mark spent more than 10 years working in customer relations and marketing at Adobe and worked at Instructure as its senior director of customer marketing. He received his MBA from Utah State University and a bachelor’s degree from Brigham Young University. Outside of work, Mark enjoys spending time with his family and traveling.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Disney:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Work your magic.</strong> Whatever the magic is that your brand has, that magic that sets you apart from competitors - make that the focus of your content. Mark says, “For Domo specifically, what's our magic? We're really, really good at helping people to use data effectively. We can help them make accessible interactions and interactive automations and simple integrations. We help people get value out of their data. And so for us, that's what the magic is. So we have to make that simple. We have to make it easy. We may have to make it understandable and the product has to work. That's what remembering the magic looks like for a software company that's selling visualization and BI and automation software.”</li><li><strong>Focus on feeling.</strong> Does your content feel like it’s part of the brand? Does it all evoke the same feeling? Ian says, “One of the things that Disney understands so well is the importance of the property fitting into their overall brand, but that the properties all are standalones. And I think that this is not something that we really understand in marketing. Like, we get obsessed with the colors or the style. We obsess over making it look right instead of feel right. But Disney, the brand is all about the way it makes you feel.”</li><li><strong>Have a distribution plan for your content.</strong> Before you make any content, make sure you have a plan to get it out in the world, and in front of the right people. Mark says, “For so long the phrase has been content is king. But my fight would be that distribution is emperor. Yes, content is really, really important. And it's amazing what you can do with really good content, but you can do a heck of a lot more with really good content that has exceptional distribution behind it. I can do really good things with really bad content that has exceptional distribution strategies and tactics put behind it. The key is, how do you make sure that you're developing and creating and synthesizing really good content that you can then put the right kind of resources behind so that you get it in front of the people that you really care about?”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”For so long the phrase has been content is king. But my fight would be that distribution is emperor.”</p><p>*”I'm a big fan of test, test, test, test, test, test, and learn. But you live in a world today where you can make micro optimizations to pieces of content and things. So use the technology and the things that are in place to be able to make the micro changes you need to make content work.”</p><p>*”Content is everyone's responsibility at this point. No matter what discipline you are in within marketing, you are a content marketer. We get so caught up sometimes then, ‘Hey, this quarter we're going to do X number of blog posts.’ Why? To what end? ‘We're going to create this many YouTube videos.’ Okay, ‘we're going to create a whole bunch of stuff on TikTok.’ Great! Like, what's the purpose? And backing up enough to say, Who's the audience? If your ICP is for a certain amount of these accounts that look like this, and these people who buy like this and need these things, and yet you're talking to all of them in the same way, you're going to fail.”</p><p>*”Take the time to create really, really good content. We're not in the days anymore of ‘If you build it, they will come.’ There is more content generated right now than in any other time. So just to build good content doesn't get the job done. Building good content and then having that distribution strategy and then being willing to make the micro changes you need to, you'll give it a good shot.”</p><p>*”Don't be afraid to fail sometimes. If failure is, ‘We learned a whole lot of stuff and we won't make that same mistake again,’ then it wasn't really failure.”</p><p>*”Make sure as a marketer, you're staying true to the creative piece of your job, but that you're using data to make sure that it's all a strong reality. Cause I think too often, we can fall to either side, whether it's we're falling too hard on the creative side or we're falling too hard on the data side. And it is, it's an art and a science. So nail both the art and science.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Mark Boothe, CMO of Domo</p><p>[2:33] The Launch of Disney Plus</p><p>[4:25] Disney Plus Marketing Strategies</p><p>[7:36] The Impact of Disney Plus on Consumers</p><p>[18:13] Content and Distribution in B2B Marketing</p><p>[22:05] Creating Quality Content in Business</p><p>[22:20] The Importance of Distribution Strategy</p><p>[22:43] Learning from Failures</p><p>[22:58] Challenges in Content Creation</p><p>[25:21] Investing in Brand and Community</p><p>[27:14] The Role of Community in Customer Retention</p><p>[28:25] Evaluating Content ROI</p><p>[29:32] Building a Customer-Centric Community</p><p>[32:00] The Impact of Community Initiatives</p><p>[35:50] Balancing Creativity and Data in Marketing</p><p>[37:57] Advice for other CMOs</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/markboothe1/">Connect with Mark on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.domo.com/">Learn more about Domo</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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Every brand has it. It’s the special offering your company has that no other one does.

That’s where you focus the message of your content. And it’s one of the things we’re talking about today.

In this episode, we’re learning from the magic of the world of Disney. 

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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Before comedians ever get a Netflix special, they have to run the gauntlet. </p><p>Night after night, they’re putting themselves out there in front of judgmental crowds and trying to win them over.</p><p>Sometimes they bomb, sometimes they face hecklers, and what may be even worse: silence. </p><p>Kathy Griffin once bombed so badly at a show in Montreal she said, “The audience was talking so much that they didn’t know my set ended.” Ouch.</p><p>But even after bombing the worst, comedians 👏 keep 👏 practicing 👏. And all the while they’re gathering data. What works? What doesn’t work? </p><p>Because that data helps them get better and better. And that grit and resilience is one of the things we as marketers need to have too. </p><p>So in this episode, we’re taking marketing lessons from comedian Mike Bigbiglia.</p><p>With the help of our special guest, Host of <i>How Stories Happen</i>, Jay Acunzo, we’re talking about developing your premise, aiming for resonance over reach, and practicing your material in front of your audience.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Jay Acunzo</strong></p><p>Jay Acunzo is consultant, author and speaker at Unthinkable Media. He helps his clients learn to differentiate easier and resonate deeper on the impact of their ideas, not the volume of their content. He helps them develop their premise, their storytelling, and their pillar projects in order to own an idea in their minds and influence the market.</p><p>After starting his career in media and marketing roles at Google and HubSpot, a tiny startup and a VC firm, he authored the book about questioning best practices, <i>Break the Wheel</i>, toured as a professional speaker (giving keynotes in 25 states and 3 countries), launched two celebrated business shows (the podcast Unthinkable and the docuseries Against the Grain), and co-founded the mastermind for business storytellers, the Creator Kitchen.</p><p>As an advisor, he has worked with more than 200 individuals and teams to help them differentiate through substance and stories, not stunts. Past brand clients include Salesforce, GoDaddy, Wistia, Drift, Podia, InVision, Zillow, Blackbaud, Dometic, James Hardie, and Help Scout, as well as hundreds of individual thought leaders and experts, including the author behind Google’s employee training program and the performance coach who helped develop Kobe Bryant’s Black Mamba persona.</p><p>He is a New England resident, a Knicks fan, and an obsessive grilled pizza chef. His grandest aspiration (though genuinely, it’s my biggest delusion) is to be the Anthony Bourdain of business storytelling.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Mike Birbiglia:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Develop your premise. </strong>Define your overarching theme or premise. If you were to give your campaign a title, what would it be? What message do you want your audience to get? Jay says, “The premise is an assertion you're making from which everything else follows. And that's true in comedy. It's also true in how you position a brand and every project that you or your brand might create. You know, a podcast has a premise, a video series, a book, a speech. We all need to better develop our premises the way a comedian does.” Mike Birbiglia has a premise to each show and a story arc. Like how <i>The Old Man & The Pool </i>is about getting older and swimming as a means of getting healthier. It gives the show shape and it also gives his audience an idea of what his show will be about. </li><li><strong>Resonance>reach. </strong>Aim to make content that resonates with your target persona instead of aiming to reach a lot of people. This sometimes means decreasing your reach to be true to your brand values. But hitting home with your niche is better than falling flat with a bunch of people. Jay says, “You should care more about resonance than reach to grow your business. It's because from resonance comes action. It's better for business because that's why we start to care. If it doesn't resonate, we don't care. If we don't care, we don't act. Like Birbiglia is so good at making you care, not just about him, not just about the joke, but about whatever premise he’s there to explore through the arc of the show.”</li><li><strong>Practice your material in front of your audience. </strong>Keep dialing it in by seeing what works with your audience - and what doesn’t. Jay says, “This is what a pro does in Mike Birgiglia’s world. Being a professional, viable comedian [means] you are constantly working on material in front of the audience. Like, it is democratized to the degree that the audience decides. You're trying to put things in front of them. You're like, ‘I am convinced this idea or story matters,’ then you're trying to articulate the right way into that or the right construction and flow of the setup and the punchline and the tags, or how you explain things or the timing of it all, or your callbacks. All these hidden elements that go into, yes, a comedy special, but really standing up in front of anybody to speak to them. And the goal is to put enough reps in that you work the material out.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”We need to reclaim creativity from what we have lost it to in the business world, which is the sum total of lots of hidden choices and lots of aerating and iterating and working on the material. Like, you might have conviction around your ideas. You're not going to drop that conviction and go, ‘I'll say anything that'll work on a social network,’ which is what people in business are too prone to do. You have an internal conviction about how the world should be, how you see something, your perspective, even one specific idea for a project. And the hard work now is, ‘I have to figure out the language and the storytelling and the frameworks and the construction of my words to get people to see what I already see and go with me on the journey.’”</p><p>*”We are trying to grab attention all the time as marketers. That's not what good marketing is. Good marketing is not about who arrives. It's about who stays. So get them to the end. That's your golden rule all the time. They hit play. Be paranoid now they're going to hit stop.”</p><p>*”Athletes watch the film of the game to get better. Marketers need to consume their own content to get better. Go for a walk, open it up in the morning, do what you have to do to consume your own work. You will notice very quickly what went wrong and what went well. It's like reading your writing out loud is the best, most foolproof way to improve your writing. You need to consume your work like the recipient.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Jay Acunzo, Host of <i>How Stories Happen</i></p><p>[2:07] Mike Birbiglia's Creative Process</p><p>[6:35] Lessons from Mike Birbiglia for Marketers</p><p>[10:03] The Art of Storytelling in Comedy and Marketing</p><p>[18:03] The Importance of Iteration and Audience Feedback</p><p>[24:16] Nailing the Post-Story Moment</p><p>[25:30] The Golden Rule of Storytelling</p><p>[27:15] The Importance of Consuming Your Own Content</p><p>[28:04] Going the Extra Mile in Content Creation</p><p>[29:06] How to Create Engaging and Original Content</p><p>[36:12] The Messy Process of Creation</p><p>[39:15] Introducing Creator Kitchen</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jayacunzo/">Connect with Jay on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://jayacunzo.com/how-stories-happen-storytelling-podcast">Learn more about <i>How Stories Happen</i></a></p><p>About Remarkable!</p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Ian Faison, Jay Acunzo, Meredith Gooderham, Scott Goodrich)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before comedians ever get a Netflix special, they have to run the gauntlet. </p><p>Night after night, they’re putting themselves out there in front of judgmental crowds and trying to win them over.</p><p>Sometimes they bomb, sometimes they face hecklers, and what may be even worse: silence. </p><p>Kathy Griffin once bombed so badly at a show in Montreal she said, “The audience was talking so much that they didn’t know my set ended.” Ouch.</p><p>But even after bombing the worst, comedians 👏 keep 👏 practicing 👏. And all the while they’re gathering data. What works? What doesn’t work? </p><p>Because that data helps them get better and better. And that grit and resilience is one of the things we as marketers need to have too. </p><p>So in this episode, we’re taking marketing lessons from comedian Mike Bigbiglia.</p><p>With the help of our special guest, Host of <i>How Stories Happen</i>, Jay Acunzo, we’re talking about developing your premise, aiming for resonance over reach, and practicing your material in front of your audience.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Jay Acunzo</strong></p><p>Jay Acunzo is consultant, author and speaker at Unthinkable Media. He helps his clients learn to differentiate easier and resonate deeper on the impact of their ideas, not the volume of their content. He helps them develop their premise, their storytelling, and their pillar projects in order to own an idea in their minds and influence the market.</p><p>After starting his career in media and marketing roles at Google and HubSpot, a tiny startup and a VC firm, he authored the book about questioning best practices, <i>Break the Wheel</i>, toured as a professional speaker (giving keynotes in 25 states and 3 countries), launched two celebrated business shows (the podcast Unthinkable and the docuseries Against the Grain), and co-founded the mastermind for business storytellers, the Creator Kitchen.</p><p>As an advisor, he has worked with more than 200 individuals and teams to help them differentiate through substance and stories, not stunts. Past brand clients include Salesforce, GoDaddy, Wistia, Drift, Podia, InVision, Zillow, Blackbaud, Dometic, James Hardie, and Help Scout, as well as hundreds of individual thought leaders and experts, including the author behind Google’s employee training program and the performance coach who helped develop Kobe Bryant’s Black Mamba persona.</p><p>He is a New England resident, a Knicks fan, and an obsessive grilled pizza chef. His grandest aspiration (though genuinely, it’s my biggest delusion) is to be the Anthony Bourdain of business storytelling.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Mike Birbiglia:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Develop your premise. </strong>Define your overarching theme or premise. If you were to give your campaign a title, what would it be? What message do you want your audience to get? Jay says, “The premise is an assertion you're making from which everything else follows. And that's true in comedy. It's also true in how you position a brand and every project that you or your brand might create. You know, a podcast has a premise, a video series, a book, a speech. We all need to better develop our premises the way a comedian does.” Mike Birbiglia has a premise to each show and a story arc. Like how <i>The Old Man & The Pool </i>is about getting older and swimming as a means of getting healthier. It gives the show shape and it also gives his audience an idea of what his show will be about. </li><li><strong>Resonance>reach. </strong>Aim to make content that resonates with your target persona instead of aiming to reach a lot of people. This sometimes means decreasing your reach to be true to your brand values. But hitting home with your niche is better than falling flat with a bunch of people. Jay says, “You should care more about resonance than reach to grow your business. It's because from resonance comes action. It's better for business because that's why we start to care. If it doesn't resonate, we don't care. If we don't care, we don't act. Like Birbiglia is so good at making you care, not just about him, not just about the joke, but about whatever premise he’s there to explore through the arc of the show.”</li><li><strong>Practice your material in front of your audience. </strong>Keep dialing it in by seeing what works with your audience - and what doesn’t. Jay says, “This is what a pro does in Mike Birgiglia’s world. Being a professional, viable comedian [means] you are constantly working on material in front of the audience. Like, it is democratized to the degree that the audience decides. You're trying to put things in front of them. You're like, ‘I am convinced this idea or story matters,’ then you're trying to articulate the right way into that or the right construction and flow of the setup and the punchline and the tags, or how you explain things or the timing of it all, or your callbacks. All these hidden elements that go into, yes, a comedy special, but really standing up in front of anybody to speak to them. And the goal is to put enough reps in that you work the material out.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”We need to reclaim creativity from what we have lost it to in the business world, which is the sum total of lots of hidden choices and lots of aerating and iterating and working on the material. Like, you might have conviction around your ideas. You're not going to drop that conviction and go, ‘I'll say anything that'll work on a social network,’ which is what people in business are too prone to do. You have an internal conviction about how the world should be, how you see something, your perspective, even one specific idea for a project. And the hard work now is, ‘I have to figure out the language and the storytelling and the frameworks and the construction of my words to get people to see what I already see and go with me on the journey.’”</p><p>*”We are trying to grab attention all the time as marketers. That's not what good marketing is. Good marketing is not about who arrives. It's about who stays. So get them to the end. That's your golden rule all the time. They hit play. Be paranoid now they're going to hit stop.”</p><p>*”Athletes watch the film of the game to get better. Marketers need to consume their own content to get better. Go for a walk, open it up in the morning, do what you have to do to consume your own work. You will notice very quickly what went wrong and what went well. It's like reading your writing out loud is the best, most foolproof way to improve your writing. You need to consume your work like the recipient.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Jay Acunzo, Host of <i>How Stories Happen</i></p><p>[2:07] Mike Birbiglia's Creative Process</p><p>[6:35] Lessons from Mike Birbiglia for Marketers</p><p>[10:03] The Art of Storytelling in Comedy and Marketing</p><p>[18:03] The Importance of Iteration and Audience Feedback</p><p>[24:16] Nailing the Post-Story Moment</p><p>[25:30] The Golden Rule of Storytelling</p><p>[27:15] The Importance of Consuming Your Own Content</p><p>[28:04] Going the Extra Mile in Content Creation</p><p>[29:06] How to Create Engaging and Original Content</p><p>[36:12] The Messy Process of Creation</p><p>[39:15] Introducing Creator Kitchen</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jayacunzo/">Connect with Jay on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://jayacunzo.com/how-stories-happen-storytelling-podcast">Learn more about <i>How Stories Happen</i></a></p><p>About Remarkable!</p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>Before comedians ever get a Netflix special, they have to run the gauntlet. 

Night after night, they’re putting themselves out there in front of judgmental crowds and trying to win them over.

Sometimes they bomb, sometimes they face hecklers, and what may be even worse: silence. 

Kathy Griffin once bombed so badly at a show in Montreal she said, “The audience was talking so much that they didn’t know my set ended.” Ouch.

But even after bombing the worst, comedians 👏 keep 👏 practicing 👏. And all the while they’re gathering data. What works? What doesn’t work? 

Because that data helps them get better and better. And that grit and resilience is one of the things we as marketers need to have too. 

So in this episode, we’re taking marketing lessons from comedian Mike Bigbiglia.

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Night after night, they’re putting themselves out there in front of judgmental crowds and trying to win them over.

Sometimes they bomb, sometimes they face hecklers, and what may be even worse: silence. 

Kathy Griffin once bombed so badly at a show in Montreal she said, “The audience was talking so much that they didn’t know my set ended.” Ouch.

But even after bombing the worst, comedians 👏 keep 👏 practicing 👏. And all the while they’re gathering data. What works? What doesn’t work? 

Because that data helps them get better and better. And that grit and resilience is one of the things we as marketers need to have too. 

So in this episode, we’re taking marketing lessons from comedian Mike Bigbiglia.

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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Marketing is like comedy. It has to be bold, memorable and perfectly timed to hit home. </p><p>Great marketing knows how to turn heads, make an impression, and leave the audience wanting more, just like Midge Maisel.</p><p>In this episode, we’re taking marketing lessons from <i>The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel.</i></p><p>Together, with the help of our special guest, Head of Content & Brand at Close, Chelsea Castle, we’re talking about using niche references, making your audience laugh, and making every word count.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Chelsea Castle</strong></p><p>Chelsea Castle is Head of Content and Brand at sales productivity platform Close. She joined the company in April 2024 and formerly served as a content leader at Lavender.ai. She is a former journalist who became a content strategist and marketer, and brings with her more than 12 years of experience. She also formerly served as Director of Content Marketing at Chili Piper.  </p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Use niche references.</strong> Don’t be afraid to use obscure or niche references that target your ideal customer. <i>The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel</i> is so detail-oriented that a general audience will see and hear content that’s true to the era, but people who know the period well will find meaning and humor in the minutest of details. Ian says, “I would rather hit one person in the heartstrings with the arrow and miss a hundred than sort of just hit a lot of people in the shoulder and have them be like, ‘Yeah, you know that I felt it, but, you know, I didn't feel it in my soul.’ And you can do that with every post. If you're going to post, you know, 10 times in a week, then throw some obscure [references] out there, right? 80/20 rule. Have 80 percent of your posts be stuff that is mainstream and 20 percent of your posts be super obscure. And probably the ones that would go viral are the ones that are more obscure anyway.”</li><li><strong>Make ‘em laugh. </strong> Humor is not just about getting giggles. Chelsea says, “Humor fast tracks trust, but it also helps [content] stick more.” You’re building a connection with your audience, earning credibility and humanizing your brand by showing that you have a sense of humor - and understand theirs as well. </li><li><strong>Make every word count. </strong>Quippy, smart dialogue is a hallmark of Amy Sherman-Palladino who created both <i>The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel</i> and <i>Gilmore Girls. </i>To the point where there are no throwaway lines - each word is meant to be there, every line counts. Chelsea says, “I think that is probably one of the most valuable marketing lessons I think that could be helpful in this industry right now, where, especially with writing, I teach my team [that] every single word needs to earn its spot on the page. We don't really think a lot about where certain things go, or you just usually throw it up on the blog, where it's like, ‘What if we created an interactive page? What if we created a unique landing page for this one type of content?’ Or thinking too about magazines where you have restricted word count, where every single word needs to be valuable and really earn its spot. And I think we should think about that with everything.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”You can't do anything cool without taking some risks along the way. So you kind of just weigh that balance. As marketers, we're so driven to just drive action, to drive a conversion that we kind of miss the opportunity to build some sort of connection with our audience. And that's harder. It takes more time, more thought, more intentionality.  But that's how you get longer-term dividends and payoffs, is building more connection through what you create.”</p><p>*”​​I worked in a branding agency, so I cut my teeth there where I was also essentially the content producer and executive producer of websites that I would create. So I feel like I've always had a lot of that in my career in terms of thinking through the whole experience of something with the magazines, I would think about the magazine having a heartbeat. And I apply that to my content now where you kind of want it to like ebb and flow, go up and down. You don't want it flat lined and you don't want it to be like peak the whole time. So I still apply that sort of thinking to how I think about content now, whether it's a virtual event, an in person event, a blog, of thinking about everything as [having] a heartbeat in a way that it's a full experience.”</p><p>*”I think curiosity and gut are two of the biggest things to think about as a content leader. You've got to be tenaciously curious, ask all of the questions, dig as deep as you can. It's really hard. But it's also really fun work and you have to really lean into your curiosity and also your gut. Trust your gut. I think we don't talk enough about vibes or instinct in marketing. Like at Chili Piper and Lavender, for example, we had an idea of our brand, but a lot of the success came from just trusting our gut and experimenting and kind of just feeling what felt right. And you can't really put that in like a nice strategy doc, right? Like you kind of just have to go with your gut and your instinct and what feels right.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Chelsea Castle, Head of Content & Brand at Close</p><p>[2:26] About Chelsea's Role at Close</p><p>[3:38] The Making of <i>The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel</i></p><p>[7:31] Marketing Lessons from <i>The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel</i></p><p>[13:50] The Importance of Detail in Storytelling</p><p>[23:03] The Power of a Strong Pilot Episode</p><p>[27:45] Confrontation and Conflict</p><p>[27:50] Character Development and Story Arcs</p><p>[28:31] Minor Characters and Their Impact</p><p>[30:27] Marketing Takeaways from Mrs. Maisel</p><p>[32:59] The Power of Dialogue</p><p>[42:21] Humor in Marketing</p><p>[44:34] Humanizing Marketing</p><p>[47:56] Building a Brand at Close</p><p>[55:19] Final Thoughts and Advice</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chelseacastle/">Connect with Chelsea on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.close.com/">Learn more about Close</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marketing is like comedy. It has to be bold, memorable and perfectly timed to hit home. </p><p>Great marketing knows how to turn heads, make an impression, and leave the audience wanting more, just like Midge Maisel.</p><p>In this episode, we’re taking marketing lessons from <i>The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel.</i></p><p>Together, with the help of our special guest, Head of Content & Brand at Close, Chelsea Castle, we’re talking about using niche references, making your audience laugh, and making every word count.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Chelsea Castle</strong></p><p>Chelsea Castle is Head of Content and Brand at sales productivity platform Close. She joined the company in April 2024 and formerly served as a content leader at Lavender.ai. She is a former journalist who became a content strategist and marketer, and brings with her more than 12 years of experience. She also formerly served as Director of Content Marketing at Chili Piper.  </p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Use niche references.</strong> Don’t be afraid to use obscure or niche references that target your ideal customer. <i>The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel</i> is so detail-oriented that a general audience will see and hear content that’s true to the era, but people who know the period well will find meaning and humor in the minutest of details. Ian says, “I would rather hit one person in the heartstrings with the arrow and miss a hundred than sort of just hit a lot of people in the shoulder and have them be like, ‘Yeah, you know that I felt it, but, you know, I didn't feel it in my soul.’ And you can do that with every post. If you're going to post, you know, 10 times in a week, then throw some obscure [references] out there, right? 80/20 rule. Have 80 percent of your posts be stuff that is mainstream and 20 percent of your posts be super obscure. And probably the ones that would go viral are the ones that are more obscure anyway.”</li><li><strong>Make ‘em laugh. </strong> Humor is not just about getting giggles. Chelsea says, “Humor fast tracks trust, but it also helps [content] stick more.” You’re building a connection with your audience, earning credibility and humanizing your brand by showing that you have a sense of humor - and understand theirs as well. </li><li><strong>Make every word count. </strong>Quippy, smart dialogue is a hallmark of Amy Sherman-Palladino who created both <i>The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel</i> and <i>Gilmore Girls. </i>To the point where there are no throwaway lines - each word is meant to be there, every line counts. Chelsea says, “I think that is probably one of the most valuable marketing lessons I think that could be helpful in this industry right now, where, especially with writing, I teach my team [that] every single word needs to earn its spot on the page. We don't really think a lot about where certain things go, or you just usually throw it up on the blog, where it's like, ‘What if we created an interactive page? What if we created a unique landing page for this one type of content?’ Or thinking too about magazines where you have restricted word count, where every single word needs to be valuable and really earn its spot. And I think we should think about that with everything.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”You can't do anything cool without taking some risks along the way. So you kind of just weigh that balance. As marketers, we're so driven to just drive action, to drive a conversion that we kind of miss the opportunity to build some sort of connection with our audience. And that's harder. It takes more time, more thought, more intentionality.  But that's how you get longer-term dividends and payoffs, is building more connection through what you create.”</p><p>*”​​I worked in a branding agency, so I cut my teeth there where I was also essentially the content producer and executive producer of websites that I would create. So I feel like I've always had a lot of that in my career in terms of thinking through the whole experience of something with the magazines, I would think about the magazine having a heartbeat. And I apply that to my content now where you kind of want it to like ebb and flow, go up and down. You don't want it flat lined and you don't want it to be like peak the whole time. So I still apply that sort of thinking to how I think about content now, whether it's a virtual event, an in person event, a blog, of thinking about everything as [having] a heartbeat in a way that it's a full experience.”</p><p>*”I think curiosity and gut are two of the biggest things to think about as a content leader. You've got to be tenaciously curious, ask all of the questions, dig as deep as you can. It's really hard. But it's also really fun work and you have to really lean into your curiosity and also your gut. Trust your gut. I think we don't talk enough about vibes or instinct in marketing. Like at Chili Piper and Lavender, for example, we had an idea of our brand, but a lot of the success came from just trusting our gut and experimenting and kind of just feeling what felt right. And you can't really put that in like a nice strategy doc, right? Like you kind of just have to go with your gut and your instinct and what feels right.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Chelsea Castle, Head of Content & Brand at Close</p><p>[2:26] About Chelsea's Role at Close</p><p>[3:38] The Making of <i>The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel</i></p><p>[7:31] Marketing Lessons from <i>The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel</i></p><p>[13:50] The Importance of Detail in Storytelling</p><p>[23:03] The Power of a Strong Pilot Episode</p><p>[27:45] Confrontation and Conflict</p><p>[27:50] Character Development and Story Arcs</p><p>[28:31] Minor Characters and Their Impact</p><p>[30:27] Marketing Takeaways from Mrs. Maisel</p><p>[32:59] The Power of Dialogue</p><p>[42:21] Humor in Marketing</p><p>[44:34] Humanizing Marketing</p><p>[47:56] Building a Brand at Close</p><p>[55:19] Final Thoughts and Advice</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chelseacastle/">Connect with Chelsea on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.close.com/">Learn more about Close</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>What do marketers and competitive bakers have in common? Quite a lot, actually.</p><p>Both work amid time constraints, follow recipes for success, and have to express creativity under pressure.  </p><p>And there’s a lot marketers can learn from these competitive bakers, so that’s what we’re talking about this week.</p><p>In this episode, we’re taking B2B marketing lessons from Food Network’s seasonal baking series, Summer Baking Championship.</p><p>Together with the help of our special guest, the Director of Content Marketing at Splunk, Ann Smith, we talk about putting your own spin on a recipe, tasting what you bake, and not trying to do too much at once. </p><p><strong>About our guest, Ann Smith</strong></p><p>Ann Smith joined Splunk a year ago as the Director of Content Marketing, leading a team of content strategists and writers to produce award-winning, pipeline-generating, headline-grabbing content. Prior to Splunk, she led content marketing for Oracle and held senior marketing roles at technology start-ups and small companies. She has a master of arts degree in Speech Communication from San Jose State University.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Summer Baking Championship</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Put your own spin on a recipe.</strong> In other words, it’s okay to use a recipe you know works, but don’t just check the box with your content. Strive to also make an emotional connection with your audience. Ann says, “People that buy software are people too. And it's the storytelling and the ability to connect emotionally with readers that really makes it. Storytelling is that extra layer of icing on the cake.” </li><li><strong>Taste what you baked.</strong> Review your content to gauge its effectiveness. Looking back on past work is a great way to not only see your growth, but to take a candid look at what worked and what didn’t. Ian says, “How many times have you made a meal and you didn't even taste it? My food is always criminally under-salted when I take it out because I just didn't taste it. So much marketing is like that. Go back and read that thing a year from now. Was that a good post? It's like, ‘No, it was not good.’ Did you read it and like it? Did someone else on your team read it and like it?”</li><li><strong>Don’t try to do too much. </strong>That’s when you lose clarity on your message. It becomes instantly forgettable by your audience. Ian says, “The biggest thing is just writing way shorter and just telling one story at a time that has a single message that you're trying to leave people with. So many times we write an article and we want to pack 15 things into it. Dont. Just tell them one thing. I just want them to leave reading this thing with one singular lesson. And that's the thing that's going to stick.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p> *”People that buy software are people. Chief technology officers are people too. And it's the storytelling and the ability to connect emotionally with readers that really makes it. More than just, ‘I'm just following a recipe,’ right? I'm just checking the box. Storytelling is that extra layer of icing on the cake.”</p><p>*”Just be helpful, help educate [your audience] without expecting anything in return. If you can help your customer do something better, learn something new, without expecting anything back from them,  really genuinely wanting to help them succeed, you'll have customers for life.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Ann Smith, Director of Content Marketing at Splunk</p><p>[1:36] Exploring <i>Summer Baking Championship</i></p><p>[2:39] Content Marketing at Splunk</p><p>[5:13] The Success of <i>Summer Baking Championship</i></p><p>[9:17] Parallels Between Baking and Content Marketing</p><p>[15:18] The Art of Storytelling in Marketing</p><p>[19:29] The Art of Concise Writing</p><p>[20:26] The Challenge of Simplifying Complex Messages</p><p>[21:47] Avoiding Over-Salted Content</p><p>[22:53] Relating to Your Audience</p><p>[25:44] Embracing Authenticity in Writing</p><p>[31:51] Effective Content Strategies</p><p>[37:39] Final Thoughts and Best Advice for Marketing Professionals</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/asmithann/">Connect with Ann on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.splunk.com/">Learn more about Splunk</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do marketers and competitive bakers have in common? Quite a lot, actually.</p><p>Both work amid time constraints, follow recipes for success, and have to express creativity under pressure.  </p><p>And there’s a lot marketers can learn from these competitive bakers, so that’s what we’re talking about this week.</p><p>In this episode, we’re taking B2B marketing lessons from Food Network’s seasonal baking series, Summer Baking Championship.</p><p>Together with the help of our special guest, the Director of Content Marketing at Splunk, Ann Smith, we talk about putting your own spin on a recipe, tasting what you bake, and not trying to do too much at once. </p><p><strong>About our guest, Ann Smith</strong></p><p>Ann Smith joined Splunk a year ago as the Director of Content Marketing, leading a team of content strategists and writers to produce award-winning, pipeline-generating, headline-grabbing content. Prior to Splunk, she led content marketing for Oracle and held senior marketing roles at technology start-ups and small companies. She has a master of arts degree in Speech Communication from San Jose State University.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Summer Baking Championship</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Put your own spin on a recipe.</strong> In other words, it’s okay to use a recipe you know works, but don’t just check the box with your content. Strive to also make an emotional connection with your audience. Ann says, “People that buy software are people too. And it's the storytelling and the ability to connect emotionally with readers that really makes it. Storytelling is that extra layer of icing on the cake.” </li><li><strong>Taste what you baked.</strong> Review your content to gauge its effectiveness. Looking back on past work is a great way to not only see your growth, but to take a candid look at what worked and what didn’t. Ian says, “How many times have you made a meal and you didn't even taste it? My food is always criminally under-salted when I take it out because I just didn't taste it. So much marketing is like that. Go back and read that thing a year from now. Was that a good post? It's like, ‘No, it was not good.’ Did you read it and like it? Did someone else on your team read it and like it?”</li><li><strong>Don’t try to do too much. </strong>That’s when you lose clarity on your message. It becomes instantly forgettable by your audience. Ian says, “The biggest thing is just writing way shorter and just telling one story at a time that has a single message that you're trying to leave people with. So many times we write an article and we want to pack 15 things into it. Dont. Just tell them one thing. I just want them to leave reading this thing with one singular lesson. And that's the thing that's going to stick.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p> *”People that buy software are people. Chief technology officers are people too. And it's the storytelling and the ability to connect emotionally with readers that really makes it. More than just, ‘I'm just following a recipe,’ right? I'm just checking the box. Storytelling is that extra layer of icing on the cake.”</p><p>*”Just be helpful, help educate [your audience] without expecting anything in return. If you can help your customer do something better, learn something new, without expecting anything back from them,  really genuinely wanting to help them succeed, you'll have customers for life.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Ann Smith, Director of Content Marketing at Splunk</p><p>[1:36] Exploring <i>Summer Baking Championship</i></p><p>[2:39] Content Marketing at Splunk</p><p>[5:13] The Success of <i>Summer Baking Championship</i></p><p>[9:17] Parallels Between Baking and Content Marketing</p><p>[15:18] The Art of Storytelling in Marketing</p><p>[19:29] The Art of Concise Writing</p><p>[20:26] The Challenge of Simplifying Complex Messages</p><p>[21:47] Avoiding Over-Salted Content</p><p>[22:53] Relating to Your Audience</p><p>[25:44] Embracing Authenticity in Writing</p><p>[31:51] Effective Content Strategies</p><p>[37:39] Final Thoughts and Best Advice for Marketing Professionals</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/asmithann/">Connect with Ann on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.splunk.com/">Learn more about Splunk</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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In this episode, we’re taking B2B marketing lessons from Food Network’s seasonal baking series, Summer Baking Championship.

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In this episode, we’re taking B2B marketing lessons from Food Network’s seasonal baking series, Summer Baking Championship.

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      <description><![CDATA[<p>What do you need to do to make your brand famous? </p><p>You know how you could say “Seth Rogen” and people could easily recall that he’s an actor, they know he’s funny and associate him with <i>Freaks and Geeks</i> or <i>Pineapple Express</i>, for example?</p><p>Well, with that same amount of ease, you want people to know who you are, what you do and to make positive associations with your brand name. </p><p>How do you do it? That’s one of the things we’re talking about today.</p><p>In this episode, we’re learning about aiming for brand fame by looking at Seth Rogen’s brand, Houseplant. </p><p>With the help of our special guest, Director of Brand Marketing at Mailchimp, Greg Shumchenia, we talk about aiming for fame, using feeling, and practicing fluency. </p><p><strong>About our guest, Greg Shumchenia</strong></p><p>Greg Shumchenia is Director of Brand Marketing at Mailchimp. He has over 16 years of experience as a brand marketer, strategist, and category planner. He joined Mailchimp in 2021 after a distinguished career at ad agencies like Fitzco and Dentsu Creative, where he helped shape brands like Coca-Cola, Microsoft, New Balance, Hidden Valley Ranch, and Harry’s. He writes professionally about brand strategy, specifically around the idea of using brands as a point of difference by making them unforgettable, and he cares a lot about a well-crafted brief. He’s been named to the AdAge A-List twice, once at Mailchimp as their in-house agency of the year and once at NAIL Communications as their small agency of the year. He has won awards for marketing effectiveness and for advertising creativity. He has B2C, B2B, and DTC experience. He has also worked across a lot of categories including CPG, SaaS, tech, retail, QSR, healthcare, finance, and nonprofit. Greg is based in San Francisco, so when he’s not thinking and writing about brands, he’s usually hiking, surfing, or exploring the inside of a good winery.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Houseplant:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Chase fame. </strong>Aim to be a brand that comes to mind easily and is brought up in conversation. Greg says, “I think fame is one of those words that's kind of synonymous with awareness, but it's more than that. Like, I know Taylor Swift is famous because I know I can bring her up on this call and you know who she is. Fame is trying to achieve that level of talk value, shareability, just call it cultural relevance if you want.” He says, “[Houseplant doesn’t] just speak to the small audience of marijuana smokers. They talk to a wider audience of people who appreciate beautiful design and objects. They're speaking to an entire category, and they do it with really bold and beautiful, distinct marketing. That's one of the best ways to build mental availability. You do it with a big group, and all of that drives growth.”</li><li><strong>Use feeling.</strong> Be expressive and get your audience to feel something through your content and branding. Greg says, “You can think of that one as emotion too. Houseplant uses emotion in a lot of different places, from the design of their products, you know Seth is pouring his own self into them. So you can kind of feel that emotion in the products and the design themselves. But also in the stories they tell. People remember feelings more than facts and figures. So if you're trying to build an unforgettable brand, feelings are one of the best ways to do it. You attach a feeling to a memory and people are going to recall that better than a functional message.”</li><li><strong>Practice fluency.</strong> Know your brand so well that the words to express what you do and what you stand for come easily. Then communicate that to your audience. Greg says, “[Houseplant] certainly practices fluency in every sense of the word. A distinct yet simple brand, it's easy to understand. It makes them easy to identify and to find. The two biggest things a brand needs to do is be remembered and be easy to buy. And fluency helps you be easy to buy. Fluency in your distinct brand assets and your look and feel is something Houseplant does super tight.” </li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”From a purely functional perspective, [Seth Rogen is] trying to make the whole smoking experience a Houseplant experience. You can buy the actual flower, you can buy the rolling papers or the pipe or the device that you smoke out of, the ashtray, the matches, the record that you put on that you listen to while you smoke. I think he even sells a chair you can sit in while you smoke. That’s vertical integration. That’s what Seth is doing with Houseplant. He's like, ‘We are going to sell you everything in the smoking vertical. Absolutely everything from the chair to the flower, like just everything.’ It's kind of cool from a business perspective.”</p><p>*”95 percent of buyers in a category are out of market at any given time, meaning you're not ready to buy. And 90 percent of B2B buyers are buying off their day-one shortlist. So when they do go into market, that's that 5 percent of the category. 90 percent already have a list in mind. Like you do that [math,] 10 percent of 5%, you're talking to half a percent of the category. You're competing for half a percent of the category if you're not on that day-one short list. So yeah, that's our content strategy to get on that day-one short list when buyers enter the market. So it's too late when they've been triggered and they start shopping. So we are talking to them beforehand.”</p><p>*”It's scary to say, ‘We're going to talk to people who aren't interested in buying our product.’  It's scary to say, ‘We're okay with this taking a long time.’ It's scary to say, like, ‘We're going to talk to people who aren't going to be in the market for the next three to five years, and when they are, it might take them six to nine months for that buying process to work out.’”</p><p>*”Reframing a challenge for people gives them a real sense that you can help.”</p><p>*”If I had three tennis balls and I threw them to you one at a time, you're very likely to catch every one of them. If I throw all three of them at you at once, you probably won't catch any of them. So just one at a time, one message at a time in one spot, in one ad, whatever you're creating. The more you say, the less people remember. So keep it simple.”</p><p>*”When we talk about, ‘People not ready to buy,’ how do you reach those people? This is one of the ways: you entertain them, but also sneak in a little bit of a lesson here or there.”</p><p>*”It's a tough battle sometimes, but I think, you know, we also have a great collection because we've been doing it for a while. We've been persevering and like, you know, you're not going to strike gold or the magic's not going to happen after one podcast. It's going to take a while.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Greg Shumchenia, Director of Brand Marketing at Mailchimp</p><p>[1:29] The Story Behind Houseplant</p><p>[3:25] Houseplant's Unique Products and Philosophy</p><p>[5:40] Houseplant's Social Impact and Seth Rogen's Involvement</p><p>[10:09] Marketing Takeaways from Houseplant</p><p>[22:31] Transition to MailChimp Discussion</p><p>[26:16] Marketing Before the Sale: The Challenge</p><p>[27:03] The Importance of Building Marketing Channels</p><p>[29:09] Understanding Your Audience</p><p>[30:17] Reframing Marketing Challenges</p><p>[33:09] The Value of Singular Messaging</p><p>[34:56] Highlighting Successful Content: The Science of Loyalty</p><p>[37:02] Leveraging Intuit's Customer Base</p><p>[38:52] Measuring ROI in Marketing</p><p>[39:51] Upcoming MailChimp Podcasts</p><p>[43:58] The Power of Original Content</p><p>[50:47] Final Thoughts on Simplification in Marketing</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gshum/">Connect with Greg on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://mailchimp.com/">Learn more about Mailchimp</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Ian Faison, Meredith Gooderham, Greg Shumchenia, Scott Goodrich)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you need to do to make your brand famous? </p><p>You know how you could say “Seth Rogen” and people could easily recall that he’s an actor, they know he’s funny and associate him with <i>Freaks and Geeks</i> or <i>Pineapple Express</i>, for example?</p><p>Well, with that same amount of ease, you want people to know who you are, what you do and to make positive associations with your brand name. </p><p>How do you do it? That’s one of the things we’re talking about today.</p><p>In this episode, we’re learning about aiming for brand fame by looking at Seth Rogen’s brand, Houseplant. </p><p>With the help of our special guest, Director of Brand Marketing at Mailchimp, Greg Shumchenia, we talk about aiming for fame, using feeling, and practicing fluency. </p><p><strong>About our guest, Greg Shumchenia</strong></p><p>Greg Shumchenia is Director of Brand Marketing at Mailchimp. He has over 16 years of experience as a brand marketer, strategist, and category planner. He joined Mailchimp in 2021 after a distinguished career at ad agencies like Fitzco and Dentsu Creative, where he helped shape brands like Coca-Cola, Microsoft, New Balance, Hidden Valley Ranch, and Harry’s. He writes professionally about brand strategy, specifically around the idea of using brands as a point of difference by making them unforgettable, and he cares a lot about a well-crafted brief. He’s been named to the AdAge A-List twice, once at Mailchimp as their in-house agency of the year and once at NAIL Communications as their small agency of the year. He has won awards for marketing effectiveness and for advertising creativity. He has B2C, B2B, and DTC experience. He has also worked across a lot of categories including CPG, SaaS, tech, retail, QSR, healthcare, finance, and nonprofit. Greg is based in San Francisco, so when he’s not thinking and writing about brands, he’s usually hiking, surfing, or exploring the inside of a good winery.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Houseplant:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Chase fame. </strong>Aim to be a brand that comes to mind easily and is brought up in conversation. Greg says, “I think fame is one of those words that's kind of synonymous with awareness, but it's more than that. Like, I know Taylor Swift is famous because I know I can bring her up on this call and you know who she is. Fame is trying to achieve that level of talk value, shareability, just call it cultural relevance if you want.” He says, “[Houseplant doesn’t] just speak to the small audience of marijuana smokers. They talk to a wider audience of people who appreciate beautiful design and objects. They're speaking to an entire category, and they do it with really bold and beautiful, distinct marketing. That's one of the best ways to build mental availability. You do it with a big group, and all of that drives growth.”</li><li><strong>Use feeling.</strong> Be expressive and get your audience to feel something through your content and branding. Greg says, “You can think of that one as emotion too. Houseplant uses emotion in a lot of different places, from the design of their products, you know Seth is pouring his own self into them. So you can kind of feel that emotion in the products and the design themselves. But also in the stories they tell. People remember feelings more than facts and figures. So if you're trying to build an unforgettable brand, feelings are one of the best ways to do it. You attach a feeling to a memory and people are going to recall that better than a functional message.”</li><li><strong>Practice fluency.</strong> Know your brand so well that the words to express what you do and what you stand for come easily. Then communicate that to your audience. Greg says, “[Houseplant] certainly practices fluency in every sense of the word. A distinct yet simple brand, it's easy to understand. It makes them easy to identify and to find. The two biggest things a brand needs to do is be remembered and be easy to buy. And fluency helps you be easy to buy. Fluency in your distinct brand assets and your look and feel is something Houseplant does super tight.” </li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”From a purely functional perspective, [Seth Rogen is] trying to make the whole smoking experience a Houseplant experience. You can buy the actual flower, you can buy the rolling papers or the pipe or the device that you smoke out of, the ashtray, the matches, the record that you put on that you listen to while you smoke. I think he even sells a chair you can sit in while you smoke. That’s vertical integration. That’s what Seth is doing with Houseplant. He's like, ‘We are going to sell you everything in the smoking vertical. Absolutely everything from the chair to the flower, like just everything.’ It's kind of cool from a business perspective.”</p><p>*”95 percent of buyers in a category are out of market at any given time, meaning you're not ready to buy. And 90 percent of B2B buyers are buying off their day-one shortlist. So when they do go into market, that's that 5 percent of the category. 90 percent already have a list in mind. Like you do that [math,] 10 percent of 5%, you're talking to half a percent of the category. You're competing for half a percent of the category if you're not on that day-one short list. So yeah, that's our content strategy to get on that day-one short list when buyers enter the market. So it's too late when they've been triggered and they start shopping. So we are talking to them beforehand.”</p><p>*”It's scary to say, ‘We're going to talk to people who aren't interested in buying our product.’  It's scary to say, ‘We're okay with this taking a long time.’ It's scary to say, like, ‘We're going to talk to people who aren't going to be in the market for the next three to five years, and when they are, it might take them six to nine months for that buying process to work out.’”</p><p>*”Reframing a challenge for people gives them a real sense that you can help.”</p><p>*”If I had three tennis balls and I threw them to you one at a time, you're very likely to catch every one of them. If I throw all three of them at you at once, you probably won't catch any of them. So just one at a time, one message at a time in one spot, in one ad, whatever you're creating. The more you say, the less people remember. So keep it simple.”</p><p>*”When we talk about, ‘People not ready to buy,’ how do you reach those people? This is one of the ways: you entertain them, but also sneak in a little bit of a lesson here or there.”</p><p>*”It's a tough battle sometimes, but I think, you know, we also have a great collection because we've been doing it for a while. We've been persevering and like, you know, you're not going to strike gold or the magic's not going to happen after one podcast. It's going to take a while.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Greg Shumchenia, Director of Brand Marketing at Mailchimp</p><p>[1:29] The Story Behind Houseplant</p><p>[3:25] Houseplant's Unique Products and Philosophy</p><p>[5:40] Houseplant's Social Impact and Seth Rogen's Involvement</p><p>[10:09] Marketing Takeaways from Houseplant</p><p>[22:31] Transition to MailChimp Discussion</p><p>[26:16] Marketing Before the Sale: The Challenge</p><p>[27:03] The Importance of Building Marketing Channels</p><p>[29:09] Understanding Your Audience</p><p>[30:17] Reframing Marketing Challenges</p><p>[33:09] The Value of Singular Messaging</p><p>[34:56] Highlighting Successful Content: The Science of Loyalty</p><p>[37:02] Leveraging Intuit's Customer Base</p><p>[38:52] Measuring ROI in Marketing</p><p>[39:51] Upcoming MailChimp Podcasts</p><p>[43:58] The Power of Original Content</p><p>[50:47] Final Thoughts on Simplification in Marketing</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gshum/">Connect with Greg on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://mailchimp.com/">Learn more about Mailchimp</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>What do you need to do to make your brand famous? 

You know how you could say “Seth Rogen” and people could easily recall that he’s an actor, they know he’s funny and associate him with Freaks and Geeks or Pineapple Express, for example?

Well, with that same amount of ease, you want people to know who you are, what you do and to make positive associations with your brand name. 

How do you do it? That’s one of the things we’re talking about today.

In this episode, we’re learning about aiming for brand fame by looking at Seth Rogen’s brand, Houseplant. 

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      <itunes:subtitle>What do you need to do to make your brand famous? 

You know how you could say “Seth Rogen” and people could easily recall that he’s an actor, they know he’s funny and associate him with Freaks and Geeks or Pineapple Express, for example?

Well, with that same amount of ease, you want people to know who you are, what you do and to make positive associations with your brand name. 

How do you do it? That’s one of the things we’re talking about today.

In this episode, we’re learning about aiming for brand fame by looking at Seth Rogen’s brand, Houseplant. 

With the help of our special guest, Director of Brand Marketing at Mailchimp, Greg Shumchenia, we talk about aiming for fame, using feeling, and practicing fluency.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>How much of the realities of your business do you want your audience to see? The truth is, there are benefits to baring it all.</p><p>Especially when you’re a startup, showing your trials and tribulations endears your brand to viewers. It feels raw and real and trusting. </p><p>It’s a way to build an audience of dedicated fans. And in this episode, we’re learning about this kind of radical transparency from Jeremy Clarkson.</p><p>Known in the car world for his shenanigans and quick wit on the show <i>The Grand Tour</i>, Jeremy Clarkson is now learning how to farm on his new show, <i>Clarkson’s Farm</i>. </p><p>He’s doing what we call “building in public,” and showing viewers what it’s really like to grow a farm from the ground up. </p><p>That’s one of the things we’re talking about this week on Remarkable with the help of our special guest, Co-Founder & SVP of GTM Strategy at Passetto, Sidney Waterfall.</p><p>Together, we talk about the benefits of building in public, using comedic tropes to add humor to your marketing, and transitioning your audience to a new POV. </p><p><strong>About our guest, Sidney Waterfall</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sidneywaterfall/">Sidney</a> Waterfall is the Co-Founder and SVP of GTM Strategy at <a href="https://passetto.com/">Passetto</a>. She’s a sales and product-led B2B SaaS Marketer that transitions marketing teams from MQL’s to revenue. Prior to her current role, Sidney served as SVP of Growth at Refine Labs. She has also previously held marketing roles at Ally.io, Trupanion, Simply Measured, Microsoft and Verizon.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Clarkson’s Farm</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Build in public.</strong> Show the real, raw moments with your audience as a way to be transparent and build trust. Sidney says, “Share your experience to connect with your audience and become relatable. [Jeremy Clarkson] was known in the car world. He has a huge audience. He's trying something else. So he's like, ‘I'm just going to show the real raw moments.’ And they do on the show. They show exciting moments, they show frustrating moments. I think that is becoming more popular in the B2B space. People are sharing their journey of building a company or building a product or using a product, and they're being a little bit more transparent with the ups and downs of that, even when they're marketing to a certain ICP.” She adds, “I think that helps content really resonate with people and that helps people build audiences and brands build audiences through that type of strategy.”</li><li><strong>Add humor by using comedic tropes.</strong> Sidney says, “Good writing or copy stands out with a bit of humor. And wit is very effective.” Ian adds, “There's a comedic lesson there any time you have a fish out of water. You take someone who knows nothing and put them with a bunch of people who know lots of stuff.” It’s like how Jeremy Clarkson doesn’t know anything about farming and he’s surrounded by farmers trying to help him work his land. Viewers are also learning while watching the show, so it’s a great way to edutain as well.</li><li><strong>You can transition your current audience and acquire new audience members from a new POV or a new niche.</strong> Jeremy Clarkson will draw viewers from his previous show, <i>The Grand Tour,</i> to his new one, <i>Clarkson’s Farm</i>, because he’s built a name for himself. And he’ll also gain new viewers who are interested in the concept of his new show. So some will have been interested in cars, some in farming or homesteading, others in Jeremy Clarkson as a personality. Sidney says, “This is applicable to my current situation of going from one brand that was very well known with a huge founder brand, and now standing up another company underneath that same founder.” She says, “We have an incredible audience to use and leverage. So really positioning our founder's brand as multiple businesses. And he’s talking to a different level of audience than he previously was. So from his content strategy, we're changing up who the content is targeted for. And then on the side of that, it's like, ‘Okay, how do we build the brand of Passetto outside of the founder at the same time as we start to scale so that people in the market know the difference between Refine Labs and Passetto?'”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p> *”One of the things that I thought you did so well at Refine Labs was naming the problem with something specific. To say, ‘Dark social is the thing that is happening. And here is how you go attack it.’That is the part of thought leadership that just frames the audience so quickly into solve and learn mode, and is super important. You have to find the thing that's going to resonate, and be easy to say and easy to understand.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”[Jeremy Clarkson] is definitely the main character, what kind of makes the show. And I relate that to marketing as, like, that's the founder brand, or like, that's like the face of the company or the spokesperson. And he's been able to take his massive audience and transition some of that over, but also acquire a new audience into his brand. But he's still being very true to himself, his personality and his character. It's like rinse and repeat what he was doing over in the automotive space in this new space.” - Sidney Waterfall</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Sidney Waterfall, Co-Founder & SVP of GTM Strategy at Passetto</p><p>[2:28] About the Creation of Clarkson's Farm</p><p>[4:01] Jeremy Clarkson's Farming Journey</p><p>[7:50] Showing the Realities of Farming</p><p>[20:39] Marketing Lessons from Clarkson's Farm</p><p>[24:12] Using Comedic Tension in B2B Marketing</p><p>[25:46 How to Transition Audiences with a New POV</p><p>[27:50] Building a Brand Outside the Founder</p><p>[28:47] Sidney’s Content Strategy and Execution</p><p>[36:00] The Importance of Thought Leadership</p><p>[40:40] Sidney’s Favorite Content Projects and How She Proves ROI</p><p>[46:51] Sidney’s Advice for Other Marketing Professionals</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sidneywaterfall/">Connect with Sidney on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.passetto.com/">Learn more about Passetto</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much of the realities of your business do you want your audience to see? The truth is, there are benefits to baring it all.</p><p>Especially when you’re a startup, showing your trials and tribulations endears your brand to viewers. It feels raw and real and trusting. </p><p>It’s a way to build an audience of dedicated fans. And in this episode, we’re learning about this kind of radical transparency from Jeremy Clarkson.</p><p>Known in the car world for his shenanigans and quick wit on the show <i>The Grand Tour</i>, Jeremy Clarkson is now learning how to farm on his new show, <i>Clarkson’s Farm</i>. </p><p>He’s doing what we call “building in public,” and showing viewers what it’s really like to grow a farm from the ground up. </p><p>That’s one of the things we’re talking about this week on Remarkable with the help of our special guest, Co-Founder & SVP of GTM Strategy at Passetto, Sidney Waterfall.</p><p>Together, we talk about the benefits of building in public, using comedic tropes to add humor to your marketing, and transitioning your audience to a new POV. </p><p><strong>About our guest, Sidney Waterfall</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sidneywaterfall/">Sidney</a> Waterfall is the Co-Founder and SVP of GTM Strategy at <a href="https://passetto.com/">Passetto</a>. 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People are sharing their journey of building a company or building a product or using a product, and they're being a little bit more transparent with the ups and downs of that, even when they're marketing to a certain ICP.” She adds, “I think that helps content really resonate with people and that helps people build audiences and brands build audiences through that type of strategy.”</li><li><strong>Add humor by using comedic tropes.</strong> Sidney says, “Good writing or copy stands out with a bit of humor. And wit is very effective.” Ian adds, “There's a comedic lesson there any time you have a fish out of water. You take someone who knows nothing and put them with a bunch of people who know lots of stuff.” It’s like how Jeremy Clarkson doesn’t know anything about farming and he’s surrounded by farmers trying to help him work his land. Viewers are also learning while watching the show, so it’s a great way to edutain as well.</li><li><strong>You can transition your current audience and acquire new audience members from a new POV or a new niche.</strong> Jeremy Clarkson will draw viewers from his previous show, <i>The Grand Tour,</i> to his new one, <i>Clarkson’s Farm</i>, because he’s built a name for himself. And he’ll also gain new viewers who are interested in the concept of his new show. So some will have been interested in cars, some in farming or homesteading, others in Jeremy Clarkson as a personality. Sidney says, “This is applicable to my current situation of going from one brand that was very well known with a huge founder brand, and now standing up another company underneath that same founder.” She says, “We have an incredible audience to use and leverage. So really positioning our founder's brand as multiple businesses. And he’s talking to a different level of audience than he previously was. So from his content strategy, we're changing up who the content is targeted for. And then on the side of that, it's like, ‘Okay, how do we build the brand of Passetto outside of the founder at the same time as we start to scale so that people in the market know the difference between Refine Labs and Passetto?'”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p> *”One of the things that I thought you did so well at Refine Labs was naming the problem with something specific. To say, ‘Dark social is the thing that is happening. And here is how you go attack it.’That is the part of thought leadership that just frames the audience so quickly into solve and learn mode, and is super important. You have to find the thing that's going to resonate, and be easy to say and easy to understand.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”[Jeremy Clarkson] is definitely the main character, what kind of makes the show. And I relate that to marketing as, like, that's the founder brand, or like, that's like the face of the company or the spokesperson. And he's been able to take his massive audience and transition some of that over, but also acquire a new audience into his brand. But he's still being very true to himself, his personality and his character. It's like rinse and repeat what he was doing over in the automotive space in this new space.” - Sidney Waterfall</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Sidney Waterfall, Co-Founder & SVP of GTM Strategy at Passetto</p><p>[2:28] About the Creation of Clarkson's Farm</p><p>[4:01] Jeremy Clarkson's Farming Journey</p><p>[7:50] Showing the Realities of Farming</p><p>[20:39] Marketing Lessons from Clarkson's Farm</p><p>[24:12] Using Comedic Tension in B2B Marketing</p><p>[25:46 How to Transition Audiences with a New POV</p><p>[27:50] Building a Brand Outside the Founder</p><p>[28:47] Sidney’s Content Strategy and Execution</p><p>[36:00] The Importance of Thought Leadership</p><p>[40:40] Sidney’s Favorite Content Projects and How She Proves ROI</p><p>[46:51] Sidney’s Advice for Other Marketing Professionals</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sidneywaterfall/">Connect with Sidney on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.passetto.com/">Learn more about Passetto</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>How much of the realities of your business do you want your audience to see? The truth is, there are benefits to baring it all.

Especially when you’re a startup, showing your trials and tribulations endears your brand to viewers. It feels raw and real and trusting. 

It’s a way to build an audience of dedicated fans. And in this episode, we’re learning about this kind of radical transparency from Jeremy Clarkson.

Known in the car world for his shenanigans and quick wit on the show The Grand Tour, Jeremy Clarkson is now learning how to farm on his new show, Clarkson’s Farm. 

He’s doing what we call “building in public,” and showing viewers what it’s really like to grow a farm from the ground up. 

That’s one of the things we’re talking about this week on Remarkable with the help of our special guest, Co-Founder &amp; SVP of GTM Strategy at Passetto, Sidney Waterfall.

Together, we talk about the benefits of building in public, using comedic tropes to add humor to your marketing, and transitioning your audience to a new POV.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>How much of the realities of your business do you want your audience to see? The truth is, there are benefits to baring it all.

Especially when you’re a startup, showing your trials and tribulations endears your brand to viewers. It feels raw and real and trusting. 

It’s a way to build an audience of dedicated fans. And in this episode, we’re learning about this kind of radical transparency from Jeremy Clarkson.

Known in the car world for his shenanigans and quick wit on the show The Grand Tour, Jeremy Clarkson is now learning how to farm on his new show, Clarkson’s Farm. 

He’s doing what we call “building in public,” and showing viewers what it’s really like to grow a farm from the ground up. 

That’s one of the things we’re talking about this week on Remarkable with the help of our special guest, Co-Founder &amp; SVP of GTM Strategy at Passetto, Sidney Waterfall.

Together, we talk about the benefits of building in public, using comedic tropes to add humor to your marketing, and transitioning your audience to a new POV.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Business Influencers: B2B Marketing Lessons from Chris Walker, Jason Lemkin, and more with Co-Founder &amp; CMO of Dreamdata, Steffen Hedebrandt</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>We content marketers all want to put out high quality content all the time. But you might get writer’s block or just feel stuck sometimes. </p><p>And one of the best ways to get unstuck, to feel inspired and motivated to get better and better is to look to content creators who do their job really, really well. </p><p>So in this episode, we encourage you to be influenced by some of the top thought leaders in business, including Gary Vaynerchuck, April Dunford, Chris Walker and Jason Lemkin. </p><p>Together with the help of our special guest, Co-Founder & CMO of Dreamdata, Steffen Hedebrandt, we talk about writing a book, running experiments, keeping your content snowball rolling, sourcing content ideas from your sales team, and much more.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Steffen Hedebrandt</strong></p><p>Steffen Hedebrandt is CMO and Co-Founder of Dreamdata, a pioneer in the realm of growth engines and marketing optimization. Steffen is a subject matter expert in connecting marketing activities with revenue. He has an exceptional growth mindset, is data-driven by heart and loves all parts of scaling the commercial side of a business. A notorious growth hacker with a successful track record of scaling businesses and building teams at Upwork and Airtame, Steffen knows the pain points of rapidly scaling marketing and growth firsthand.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Business Influencers:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Write a book.</strong> Ian says, “if you can write a book and you have a good idea for it, it does give you credibility. It is a lot of work, but if it succeeds, then you can do really well.” Gary Vee has <i>Jab, Jab, Jab, Right Hook</i>. April Dunford has <i>Obviously Awesome. </i>And the books opened the door for them as thought leaders. Spending the time and thought on writing a book positions you as an expert in your field and validates your thought leadership in your industry. </li><li><strong>Run experiments. </strong>Steffen says, “[Gary Vaynerchuk is] constantly experimenting. Him and his teammates are extremely good at running constant experiments and yeah, sometimes it fails. But if we don't continue the experimentation culture, then we will not find the next big thing that's going to be driving the conversation with the audience.” So keep trying new and different things, see what works, and use it in your marketing.</li><li><strong>Keep rolling the snowball of content.</strong> Steffen says, “You need to do work and then you need to tell the world about it. And then in this constant cycle of documenting, “This is what we've done today. Here's an example.’ Move on to the next thing. And little by little, the snowball starts rolling and you grow your audience little by little by continuously putting out stuff.” Try to put out content continuously, even if you only have one point to make. And little by little you’ll grow your audience.</li><li><strong>Define your audience.</strong> Ian says, “Who exactly do you want to talk to? And obviously niche down as much as you possibly can to try to figure out who you really feel like you can serve the best and then figure out, ‘Okay, if I want to talk to these people for the next five years, what is the type of stuff that I want to talk about?  You should probably go talk to those people. Hopefully you have a background in that. If you want to go with the very super authentic route, if you don't have a background, then you need to find a way into being authentic, which means you need to talk to people who are having those problems and pull them into your content.” So do your research. Get to know your audience as well as possible so you can speak their language, create messages that resonate with them, and build your community. </li><li><strong>Source content ideas from your sales team.</strong> Steffen says, “When you listen to what the customers are telling your sales team, exhaust those questions through well-written content, and then produce a lot of high quality content that can ensure that you can always stay top of mind with the customers that you're trying to target.” Tune into what your sales team is hearing from customers about questions they have, concerns, and more, and channel that into your content.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”It's about authenticity. You can hear that these are real experiences. It's things that they've tried. Jason [Lemkin] can say these things because he's been in the trenches. That to me is the people I want to listen to. It's people who have done things themselves that you can trust that  it might not be a universal truth, but it's at least something that they've tried themselves and experienced. And now they're sharing this story with you. “That's what really makes it convincing to me.”</p><p>*”If you're sitting out there just wanting to get started, just find peace in doing one of those disciplines where you are a good writer or you're good at communicating verbally, or you do well on video. And just dip your toes in whatever of those that you feel that you're strongest in. And if you want to get started, you don't have to do all of those disciplines at once. If you like writing, just start by writing and see where that takes you.”</p><p>*”The one thing we can control in marketing is that we can ensure that we have a high output of content and we can ensure that that content is of the highest quality all the time. So whether it's somebody who's making a decision whether to buy or not, whenever they're being exposed by a podcast that we've been part of, we know it's high quality. And that's probably what could be convincing that customer to move on with deciding whether they should be going with us or not. So high quality, high frequency output is something that we as marketers can always control.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Steffen Hedebrandt, Co-Founder & CMO of Dreamdata</p><p>[2:18] The Power of Consistent Content Creation</p><p>[4:18] Understanding Business Influencers</p><p>[9:17] Building Personal Brands and Marketing Strategies</p><p>[11:40] The Importance of Authenticity and POV</p><p>[20:15] Experimentation and Content Strategy</p><p>[24:32] Packaging Ideas for Easy Understanding</p><p>[25:33] Getting Started with Content Creation</p><p>[26:23] Identifying and Engaging Your Audience</p><p>[27:36] Creating a Unique Point of View</p><p>[30:00] Content Strategy at DreamData</p><p>[31:53] High-Quality Content and Distribution</p><p>[37:25] Measuring Marketing Success</p><p>[41:36] Innovative Content Approaches</p><p>[44:50] Introducing DreamData's Audience Hub</p><p>[48:24] Final Advice for Marketers</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/steffenhedebrandt/">Connect with Steffen on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://dreamdata.io/">Learn more about Dreamdata</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 30 Jul 2024 16:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Ian Faison, Meredith Gooderham, Steffen Hedebrandt, Scott Goodrich)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We content marketers all want to put out high quality content all the time. But you might get writer’s block or just feel stuck sometimes. </p><p>And one of the best ways to get unstuck, to feel inspired and motivated to get better and better is to look to content creators who do their job really, really well. </p><p>So in this episode, we encourage you to be influenced by some of the top thought leaders in business, including Gary Vaynerchuck, April Dunford, Chris Walker and Jason Lemkin. </p><p>Together with the help of our special guest, Co-Founder & CMO of Dreamdata, Steffen Hedebrandt, we talk about writing a book, running experiments, keeping your content snowball rolling, sourcing content ideas from your sales team, and much more.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Steffen Hedebrandt</strong></p><p>Steffen Hedebrandt is CMO and Co-Founder of Dreamdata, a pioneer in the realm of growth engines and marketing optimization. Steffen is a subject matter expert in connecting marketing activities with revenue. He has an exceptional growth mindset, is data-driven by heart and loves all parts of scaling the commercial side of a business. A notorious growth hacker with a successful track record of scaling businesses and building teams at Upwork and Airtame, Steffen knows the pain points of rapidly scaling marketing and growth firsthand.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Business Influencers:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Write a book.</strong> Ian says, “if you can write a book and you have a good idea for it, it does give you credibility. It is a lot of work, but if it succeeds, then you can do really well.” Gary Vee has <i>Jab, Jab, Jab, Right Hook</i>. April Dunford has <i>Obviously Awesome. </i>And the books opened the door for them as thought leaders. Spending the time and thought on writing a book positions you as an expert in your field and validates your thought leadership in your industry. </li><li><strong>Run experiments. </strong>Steffen says, “[Gary Vaynerchuk is] constantly experimenting. Him and his teammates are extremely good at running constant experiments and yeah, sometimes it fails. But if we don't continue the experimentation culture, then we will not find the next big thing that's going to be driving the conversation with the audience.” So keep trying new and different things, see what works, and use it in your marketing.</li><li><strong>Keep rolling the snowball of content.</strong> Steffen says, “You need to do work and then you need to tell the world about it. And then in this constant cycle of documenting, “This is what we've done today. Here's an example.’ Move on to the next thing. And little by little, the snowball starts rolling and you grow your audience little by little by continuously putting out stuff.” Try to put out content continuously, even if you only have one point to make. And little by little you’ll grow your audience.</li><li><strong>Define your audience.</strong> Ian says, “Who exactly do you want to talk to? And obviously niche down as much as you possibly can to try to figure out who you really feel like you can serve the best and then figure out, ‘Okay, if I want to talk to these people for the next five years, what is the type of stuff that I want to talk about?  You should probably go talk to those people. Hopefully you have a background in that. If you want to go with the very super authentic route, if you don't have a background, then you need to find a way into being authentic, which means you need to talk to people who are having those problems and pull them into your content.” So do your research. Get to know your audience as well as possible so you can speak their language, create messages that resonate with them, and build your community. </li><li><strong>Source content ideas from your sales team.</strong> Steffen says, “When you listen to what the customers are telling your sales team, exhaust those questions through well-written content, and then produce a lot of high quality content that can ensure that you can always stay top of mind with the customers that you're trying to target.” Tune into what your sales team is hearing from customers about questions they have, concerns, and more, and channel that into your content.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”It's about authenticity. You can hear that these are real experiences. It's things that they've tried. Jason [Lemkin] can say these things because he's been in the trenches. That to me is the people I want to listen to. It's people who have done things themselves that you can trust that  it might not be a universal truth, but it's at least something that they've tried themselves and experienced. And now they're sharing this story with you. “That's what really makes it convincing to me.”</p><p>*”If you're sitting out there just wanting to get started, just find peace in doing one of those disciplines where you are a good writer or you're good at communicating verbally, or you do well on video. And just dip your toes in whatever of those that you feel that you're strongest in. And if you want to get started, you don't have to do all of those disciplines at once. If you like writing, just start by writing and see where that takes you.”</p><p>*”The one thing we can control in marketing is that we can ensure that we have a high output of content and we can ensure that that content is of the highest quality all the time. So whether it's somebody who's making a decision whether to buy or not, whenever they're being exposed by a podcast that we've been part of, we know it's high quality. And that's probably what could be convincing that customer to move on with deciding whether they should be going with us or not. So high quality, high frequency output is something that we as marketers can always control.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Steffen Hedebrandt, Co-Founder & CMO of Dreamdata</p><p>[2:18] The Power of Consistent Content Creation</p><p>[4:18] Understanding Business Influencers</p><p>[9:17] Building Personal Brands and Marketing Strategies</p><p>[11:40] The Importance of Authenticity and POV</p><p>[20:15] Experimentation and Content Strategy</p><p>[24:32] Packaging Ideas for Easy Understanding</p><p>[25:33] Getting Started with Content Creation</p><p>[26:23] Identifying and Engaging Your Audience</p><p>[27:36] Creating a Unique Point of View</p><p>[30:00] Content Strategy at DreamData</p><p>[31:53] High-Quality Content and Distribution</p><p>[37:25] Measuring Marketing Success</p><p>[41:36] Innovative Content Approaches</p><p>[44:50] Introducing DreamData's Audience Hub</p><p>[48:24] Final Advice for Marketers</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/steffenhedebrandt/">Connect with Steffen on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://dreamdata.io/">Learn more about Dreamdata</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>The Kardashians are masters of marketing. It’s the way they live. From their TV show to their individual brands like 818 Tequila, Good American and Skims, the Kardashians and Jenners are marketing themselves. </p><p>So with the help of our special guest, Head of Marketing & Communications at Foursquare, Michele Morelli, we are taking marketing lessons from The Kardashians.</p><p>We’ll talk about using the power of proximity, controlling your own narrative, and much more.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Michele Morelli</strong></p><p>Michele Morelli is Head of Marketing & Communications at Foursquare, where she oversees Foursquare’s efforts and strategy across product marketing, corporate communications, public relations, partner marketing, and design. Michele brings with her over 20 years of experience across numerous industries – including technology, finance, and media, at companies like Gartner, Yahoo and AOL. Prior to joining the company in 2021, Michele served as EVP of Marketing at Toluna Corporate.  </p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>The Kardashians:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Use the power of proximity. </strong>Reference and connect cultural touchpoints to your brand. It’s like how the Kardashians are close to the OJ Simpson trial, Paris Hilton, the Olympics, Kanye West…all cultural touchpoints that increase their awareness and brand recall in the public’s mind. Ian says, “It matters to be close to Hilton because everybody knows what a Hilton is. It matters to be close to the OJ Simpson case because everybody knew what that was. It matters to be close to the Olympics because everybody knew what that was. A lot of times in marketing, you're trying to figure out how you can leverage the power and the story of other things to do that sort of jiu jitsu, to take that energy and put that wind in your sail too and propel you forward.” Similarly, you can align your brand with other like-minded brands and cross-promote content. Michele says that “There's this cross-promotional audience blending that has happened simply because of who [the Kardashians] have aligned themselves with.”</li><li><strong>Control your own narrative. </strong>The Kardashians were able to control their story by creating their own reality show. Michele says, “Controlling the narrative is always incredibly important, but two, the consistency from which they hit the narrative is so important. Like, they know what they stand for, they know what the business is they want to promote, they know how to weave a narrative around it. In marketing where you want to control the message that goes out, if there's going to be a story that's written, how do you make sure that it's framed in the best possible light for your brand?” </li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”John Wanamaker was famous for the quote, ‘Half of my advertising spend is wasted, the only problem is I don't know which half.’ It is no longer true. I think we have a much better direction of how we are spending our money and where we're actually seeing movement. The question is what aperture you look at it with. Is it a week? Is it six weeks? Is it six months? So really making sure you have that right window to measure your media I think is also going to be very important.” - Michele Morelli</p><p>*”What's really important from a brand perspective that I think Kim embodies is that if you are a legacy brand or a heritage brand, it is very difficult to move away from how people perceive you and what the core is. There's always a, ‘Yeah, but…’ when we talk about Kim. And I think for marketers, we see that if once you are thought of in one way, getting people to come along for the journey, that you're something different, especially if you're still doing that same thing is very, very difficult.” - Michele Morelli</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Michele Morelli, Head of Marketing & Communications at Foursquare</p><p>[1:55] The Kardashians' Marketing Powerhouse</p><p>[3:20] Foursquare's Marketing Strategy</p><p>[5:2 The Origin of <i>The Kardashians</i> Show</p><p>[8:13] The Evolution and Impact of The Kardashians</p><p>[15:32] Marketing Takeaways from The Kardashians</p><p>[18:38] The Power of Proximity in Marketing</p><p>[36:10] The Kardashian Flywheel Effect</p><p>[36:21] Kris Jenner: The Mastermind</p><p>[37:56] The Ubiquity of the Kardashian Brand</p><p>[45:54] The Evolution of Foursquare</p><p>[51:18] Content Strategy and ROI</p><p>[1:00:01] Embracing Technology in Marketing</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=l&ai=DChcSEwjq0pCbxbuHAxVDLNQBHUJZBygYABAAGgJvYQ&co=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwhvi0BhA4EiwAX25ujyH-sQOz-mfGfAfZ8eKaxTov9m1AEiYD3CoeU_o78cLLg06Sb51rCBoCyPcQAvD_BwE&sig=AOD64_0ROees4bJAWOpPI3QevhxJBcHSSQ&q&adurl&ved=2ahUKEwji2YmbxbuHAxX7KkQIHYWJA6UQ0Qx6BAgKEAM">Watch <i>The Kardashians</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelexmorelli/">Connect with Michele on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://foursquare.com/">Learn more about Foursquare</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2024 16:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Ian Faison, Michele Morelli, Meredith Gooderham, Scott Goodrich)</author>
      <link>https://www.caspianstudios.com/remarkable</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Kardashians are masters of marketing. It’s the way they live. From their TV show to their individual brands like 818 Tequila, Good American and Skims, the Kardashians and Jenners are marketing themselves. </p><p>So with the help of our special guest, Head of Marketing & Communications at Foursquare, Michele Morelli, we are taking marketing lessons from The Kardashians.</p><p>We’ll talk about using the power of proximity, controlling your own narrative, and much more.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Michele Morelli</strong></p><p>Michele Morelli is Head of Marketing & Communications at Foursquare, where she oversees Foursquare’s efforts and strategy across product marketing, corporate communications, public relations, partner marketing, and design. Michele brings with her over 20 years of experience across numerous industries – including technology, finance, and media, at companies like Gartner, Yahoo and AOL. Prior to joining the company in 2021, Michele served as EVP of Marketing at Toluna Corporate.  </p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>The Kardashians:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Use the power of proximity. </strong>Reference and connect cultural touchpoints to your brand. It’s like how the Kardashians are close to the OJ Simpson trial, Paris Hilton, the Olympics, Kanye West…all cultural touchpoints that increase their awareness and brand recall in the public’s mind. Ian says, “It matters to be close to Hilton because everybody knows what a Hilton is. It matters to be close to the OJ Simpson case because everybody knew what that was. It matters to be close to the Olympics because everybody knew what that was. A lot of times in marketing, you're trying to figure out how you can leverage the power and the story of other things to do that sort of jiu jitsu, to take that energy and put that wind in your sail too and propel you forward.” Similarly, you can align your brand with other like-minded brands and cross-promote content. Michele says that “There's this cross-promotional audience blending that has happened simply because of who [the Kardashians] have aligned themselves with.”</li><li><strong>Control your own narrative. </strong>The Kardashians were able to control their story by creating their own reality show. Michele says, “Controlling the narrative is always incredibly important, but two, the consistency from which they hit the narrative is so important. Like, they know what they stand for, they know what the business is they want to promote, they know how to weave a narrative around it. In marketing where you want to control the message that goes out, if there's going to be a story that's written, how do you make sure that it's framed in the best possible light for your brand?” </li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”John Wanamaker was famous for the quote, ‘Half of my advertising spend is wasted, the only problem is I don't know which half.’ It is no longer true. I think we have a much better direction of how we are spending our money and where we're actually seeing movement. The question is what aperture you look at it with. Is it a week? Is it six weeks? Is it six months? So really making sure you have that right window to measure your media I think is also going to be very important.” - Michele Morelli</p><p>*”What's really important from a brand perspective that I think Kim embodies is that if you are a legacy brand or a heritage brand, it is very difficult to move away from how people perceive you and what the core is. There's always a, ‘Yeah, but…’ when we talk about Kim. And I think for marketers, we see that if once you are thought of in one way, getting people to come along for the journey, that you're something different, especially if you're still doing that same thing is very, very difficult.” - Michele Morelli</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Michele Morelli, Head of Marketing & Communications at Foursquare</p><p>[1:55] The Kardashians' Marketing Powerhouse</p><p>[3:20] Foursquare's Marketing Strategy</p><p>[5:2 The Origin of <i>The Kardashians</i> Show</p><p>[8:13] The Evolution and Impact of The Kardashians</p><p>[15:32] Marketing Takeaways from The Kardashians</p><p>[18:38] The Power of Proximity in Marketing</p><p>[36:10] The Kardashian Flywheel Effect</p><p>[36:21] Kris Jenner: The Mastermind</p><p>[37:56] The Ubiquity of the Kardashian Brand</p><p>[45:54] The Evolution of Foursquare</p><p>[51:18] Content Strategy and ROI</p><p>[1:00:01] Embracing Technology in Marketing</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=l&ai=DChcSEwjq0pCbxbuHAxVDLNQBHUJZBygYABAAGgJvYQ&co=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwhvi0BhA4EiwAX25ujyH-sQOz-mfGfAfZ8eKaxTov9m1AEiYD3CoeU_o78cLLg06Sb51rCBoCyPcQAvD_BwE&sig=AOD64_0ROees4bJAWOpPI3QevhxJBcHSSQ&q&adurl&ved=2ahUKEwji2YmbxbuHAxX7KkQIHYWJA6UQ0Qx6BAgKEAM">Watch <i>The Kardashians</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelexmorelli/">Connect with Michele on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://foursquare.com/">Learn more about Foursquare</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>The Kardashians are masters of marketing. It’s the way they live. From their TV show to their individual brands like 818 Tequila, Good American and Skims, the Kardashians and Jenners are marketing themselves. 

So with the help of our special guest, Head of Marketing &amp; Communications at Foursquare, Michele Morelli, we are taking marketing lessons from The Kardashians.

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So with the help of our special guest, Head of Marketing &amp; Communications at Foursquare, Michele Morelli, we are taking marketing lessons from The Kardashians.

We’ll talk about using the power of proximity, controlling your own narrative, and much more.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>You may not think of people at work as your community, but they are. </p><p>And when you build strong relationships with your community, you get more done. It’s more creative. It’s more resourceful. The results are just better.</p><p>That’s one of the things we’re talking about today with the help of our special guest, Senior Director of Brand & Digital Marketing at Collibra, Victoria Bowman.</p><p>Together, we take marketing lessons from <i>Abbott Elementary</i>, including partnering up with your coworkers, showing that you understand your audience, and testing your ideas before investing in them.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Victoria Bowman</strong></p><p>Victoria Bowman is an accomplished marketing leader with extensive experience building brands and accelerating growth in fast-paced award-winning companies, including Collibra, MITRE and Dell Technologies.<br /><br />She is Senior Director of Brand and Digital Marketing at Collibra, the leading data intelligence platform. Her team includes Brand and Creative, Digital & Websites, Social Media, Community and Marketing Operations. Victoria fosters a strong culture of trust and collaboration on her team, empowering impactful cross-functional work on campaigns, events, website optimization, thought leadership programs and evolution of the brand. Collibra was recently recognized with wins in multiple categories from both the MarCom Awards and Communicator Awards.</p><p>At MITRE, a nonprofit which performs R&D on behalf of the federal government as well as industry partners, Victoria helped Strategic Communications navigate proper brand marketing in an organization dating back to 1958. Her primary focus was on relaunching mitre.org with a design system refresh and 90 net-new pages of concise content, as well as developing the employer brand and deploying high-impact campaigns to talent acquisition targets.</p><p>As Director of Brand Marketing at Dell Boomi, a SaaS company within Dell Technologies, Victoria built and led large cross-functional teams of creatives and developers, relaunched the corporate website twice during her tenure, rebranded the company, and created infrastructure and improved processes that helped Dell Boomi to scale. These strategies enabled growth initiatives and lead-generating campaigns that resulted in direct, measurable business impact.</p><p>Prior to working in tech / SaaS, Victoria held leadership roles in consumer packaged goods and online retail organizations. In those positions, she created innovative visual communications and marketing campaign strategies that effectively engaged B2B/B2C channels, planned and executed large events, expanded omnichannel brand awareness, and directly increased sales and customer retention.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Abbott Elementary</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Partner up.</strong> Don’t feel like you have to operate alone. Working collaboratively with others results in a more thoughtful, creative, and unique outcome. Victoria says, “Relationships are crucial to your success. All of the characters on <i>Abbott Elementary</i> really rely on each other. And they've built trust by learning across generations and different backgrounds. And I think that culture of trust really is what fosters great partnership and creativity and innovation. Fostering connections and gaining that shared understanding and having mutual support is important, and the element of discovery that comes from all of those shared experiences.”</li><li><strong>Show that you understand your audience. </strong>Appeal to their values, concerns, frustrations and priorities. That’s when content “clicks” for them and you create an emotional bond. Victoria says, “Show that you understand and speak to and meet the needs of your audience. Exemplify that in your marketing, that you understand their problems, you understand their needs, that you are listening, that you're accessible.”</li><li><strong>Test.</strong> Try out new marketing strategies before really investing in them. Victoria says, “Be entrepreneurial. Try out new things. Experiment and test and improve the benefit before you sink budget and resources into something. That’s how new activities can turn into successful programs. Never lose that sense of curiosity and that entrepreneurial approach.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”To be successful at content marketing, you cannot work in silos. It takes a village to do B2B marketing well, and that means keeping the communication flowing and building trust and having that open collaboration.”</p><p>*”Bring your whole self to work; your creativity, your resilience and humor. You really, as a leader, should set an example of how to be open and curious and flexible and authentic because it is contagious and it will help you to build an amazing culture on your team.”</p><p>*”Experiment often. Learn from what works and what doesn't work and keep iterating. Model for people what it looks like to learn from failures and keep moving forward with optimism and lessons learned. So make sure you celebrate the wins that you recognize the great work and you build on it.  </p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Victoria Bowman, Senior Director of Brand & Digital Marketing at Collibra</p><p>[5:49] About the creation of<i> Abbott Elementary</i></p><p>[9:49] Marketing Lessons from <i>Abbott Elementary</i></p><p>[23:34] The Power of Different Perspectives</p><p>[24:20] Importance of Setting in Storytelling</p><p>[24:43] Building Community and Brand Consistency</p><p>[25:29] Content Strategy and Customer Engagement</p><p>[28:45] Collaborative Marketing Efforts</p><p>[35:51] Measuring Content ROI</p><p>[42:12] Careers in Data Series</p><p>[43:44] Victoria’s Upcoming Projects</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/victorialbowman/">Connect with Victoria on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.collibra.com/us/en/demo?utm_source=google&utm_medium=paid_search&utm_campaign=597341035&utm_content=GBL-WEB-Request-Demo&utm_term=collibra&utm_device=c&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADbV-mILESvgUcaPBGvj69xTmLBaH&gclid=Cj0KCQjwkdO0BhDxARIsANkNcreVJcFzwcFcchDcWpQl_CmIbCZgLVqJuDwNyP96P1zcqIFuu3HH0TMaAv7PEALw_wcB">Learn more about Collibra</a></p><p>About Remarkable!</p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Jul 2024 16:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Ian Faison, Victoria Bowman, Meredith Gooderham, Scott Goodrich, Jess Avellino)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may not think of people at work as your community, but they are. </p><p>And when you build strong relationships with your community, you get more done. It’s more creative. It’s more resourceful. The results are just better.</p><p>That’s one of the things we’re talking about today with the help of our special guest, Senior Director of Brand & Digital Marketing at Collibra, Victoria Bowman.</p><p>Together, we take marketing lessons from <i>Abbott Elementary</i>, including partnering up with your coworkers, showing that you understand your audience, and testing your ideas before investing in them.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Victoria Bowman</strong></p><p>Victoria Bowman is an accomplished marketing leader with extensive experience building brands and accelerating growth in fast-paced award-winning companies, including Collibra, MITRE and Dell Technologies.<br /><br />She is Senior Director of Brand and Digital Marketing at Collibra, the leading data intelligence platform. Her team includes Brand and Creative, Digital & Websites, Social Media, Community and Marketing Operations. Victoria fosters a strong culture of trust and collaboration on her team, empowering impactful cross-functional work on campaigns, events, website optimization, thought leadership programs and evolution of the brand. Collibra was recently recognized with wins in multiple categories from both the MarCom Awards and Communicator Awards.</p><p>At MITRE, a nonprofit which performs R&D on behalf of the federal government as well as industry partners, Victoria helped Strategic Communications navigate proper brand marketing in an organization dating back to 1958. Her primary focus was on relaunching mitre.org with a design system refresh and 90 net-new pages of concise content, as well as developing the employer brand and deploying high-impact campaigns to talent acquisition targets.</p><p>As Director of Brand Marketing at Dell Boomi, a SaaS company within Dell Technologies, Victoria built and led large cross-functional teams of creatives and developers, relaunched the corporate website twice during her tenure, rebranded the company, and created infrastructure and improved processes that helped Dell Boomi to scale. These strategies enabled growth initiatives and lead-generating campaigns that resulted in direct, measurable business impact.</p><p>Prior to working in tech / SaaS, Victoria held leadership roles in consumer packaged goods and online retail organizations. In those positions, she created innovative visual communications and marketing campaign strategies that effectively engaged B2B/B2C channels, planned and executed large events, expanded omnichannel brand awareness, and directly increased sales and customer retention.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Abbott Elementary</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Partner up.</strong> Don’t feel like you have to operate alone. Working collaboratively with others results in a more thoughtful, creative, and unique outcome. Victoria says, “Relationships are crucial to your success. All of the characters on <i>Abbott Elementary</i> really rely on each other. And they've built trust by learning across generations and different backgrounds. And I think that culture of trust really is what fosters great partnership and creativity and innovation. Fostering connections and gaining that shared understanding and having mutual support is important, and the element of discovery that comes from all of those shared experiences.”</li><li><strong>Show that you understand your audience. </strong>Appeal to their values, concerns, frustrations and priorities. That’s when content “clicks” for them and you create an emotional bond. Victoria says, “Show that you understand and speak to and meet the needs of your audience. Exemplify that in your marketing, that you understand their problems, you understand their needs, that you are listening, that you're accessible.”</li><li><strong>Test.</strong> Try out new marketing strategies before really investing in them. Victoria says, “Be entrepreneurial. Try out new things. Experiment and test and improve the benefit before you sink budget and resources into something. That’s how new activities can turn into successful programs. Never lose that sense of curiosity and that entrepreneurial approach.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”To be successful at content marketing, you cannot work in silos. It takes a village to do B2B marketing well, and that means keeping the communication flowing and building trust and having that open collaboration.”</p><p>*”Bring your whole self to work; your creativity, your resilience and humor. You really, as a leader, should set an example of how to be open and curious and flexible and authentic because it is contagious and it will help you to build an amazing culture on your team.”</p><p>*”Experiment often. Learn from what works and what doesn't work and keep iterating. Model for people what it looks like to learn from failures and keep moving forward with optimism and lessons learned. So make sure you celebrate the wins that you recognize the great work and you build on it.  </p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Victoria Bowman, Senior Director of Brand & Digital Marketing at Collibra</p><p>[5:49] About the creation of<i> Abbott Elementary</i></p><p>[9:49] Marketing Lessons from <i>Abbott Elementary</i></p><p>[23:34] The Power of Different Perspectives</p><p>[24:20] Importance of Setting in Storytelling</p><p>[24:43] Building Community and Brand Consistency</p><p>[25:29] Content Strategy and Customer Engagement</p><p>[28:45] Collaborative Marketing Efforts</p><p>[35:51] Measuring Content ROI</p><p>[42:12] Careers in Data Series</p><p>[43:44] Victoria’s Upcoming Projects</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/victorialbowman/">Connect with Victoria on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.collibra.com/us/en/demo?utm_source=google&utm_medium=paid_search&utm_campaign=597341035&utm_content=GBL-WEB-Request-Demo&utm_term=collibra&utm_device=c&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADbV-mILESvgUcaPBGvj69xTmLBaH&gclid=Cj0KCQjwkdO0BhDxARIsANkNcreVJcFzwcFcchDcWpQl_CmIbCZgLVqJuDwNyP96P1zcqIFuu3HH0TMaAv7PEALw_wcB">Learn more about Collibra</a></p><p>About Remarkable!</p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>You may not think of people at work as your community, but they are. 

And when you build strong relationships with your community, you get more done. It’s more creative. It’s more resourceful. The results are just better.

That’s one of the things we’re talking about today with the help of our special guest, Senior Director of Brand &amp; Digital Marketing at Collibra, Victoria Bowman.

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      <itunes:subtitle>You may not think of people at work as your community, but they are. 

And when you build strong relationships with your community, you get more done. It’s more creative. It’s more resourceful. The results are just better.

That’s one of the things we’re talking about today with the help of our special guest, Senior Director of Brand &amp; Digital Marketing at Collibra, Victoria Bowman.

Together, we take marketing lessons from Abbott Elementary, including partnering up with your coworkers, showing that you understand your audience, and testing your ideas before investing in them.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>If you know Quentin Tarantino’s movies, it’s probably not a huge surprise that he’s a fan of Spaghetti Westerns. </p><p>Tarantino’s 2012 movie, <i>Django Unchained</i>, references Sergio Corbucci’s 1966 Spaghetti Western <i>Django.</i> But the tribute doesn’t stop there.</p><p>There’s a scene in <i>Django Unchained </i>where a man asks Django how he spells his name. Django says, “The D is silent.” The man responds, “I know.” </p><p>That man is Franco Nero, the actor who plays Django in the original 1966 movie. The two Djangos, 46 years apart, sitting side by side. This is what’s called intertextuality.</p><p>It’s referencing, quoting or alluding to other content. And it helps increase views and engagement with your content.</p><p>That’s one of the things we’re talking about today with Max Bard, VP of Content at Pray.com. </p><p>Together, we’re taking lessons from Oscar-winning director Quentin Tarantino, like exploring outside of what is considered “brand safe,” incorporating intertextuality and getting nostalgic in your content.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Max Bard</strong></p><p>Max Bard is an Executive Producer and the head of PRAY Studios, PRAY.COM’s content production arm. As the head of PRAY Studios, Max has produced over 5,500 original podcast episodes, audio books, and daily devotionals. Max has worked with Superbowl Champions like Drew Brees, Emmy Award winners like Dr Phil, and Grammy Award winners like Lecrae to create world-class content for the Christian audience.</p><p>Prior to PRAY.COM, Max was the President of VideoFort, Hollywood’s largest supplier of aerial and nature stock footage to companies like Getty Images, Adobe, and Shutterstock. VideoFort content has been used in Academy Award winning films, Cannes Lion award winning commercials, and Emmy award winning TV shows.</p><p>Max is from Los Angeles and graduated from the University of Southern California in 2014. After graduation Max pursued his dream of writing, directing, and editing film & video content in genres ranging from Drama to Advertising to Music Videos.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Quentin Tarantino:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Explore outside of what is “brand safe”.</strong> Sure, you can play it safe and continue to make slow but steady growth. But the big growth happens when you take risks. Max says, “If you want to hit the home runs, you have to take the big risks. And if you don't, then you can take the easy route and you'll probably keep that steady baseline. But if you want to get that massive spike, I think you got to try something every once in a while. Take that big risk.”</li><li><strong>Incorporate intertextuality. </strong>That is, use references to other popular content. You’ll get more eyes on your content because you’re piggybacking on what is already in the public consciousness. Max says, “Some people say that Quentin Tarantino copies other films.. But he is inspired by films of the past and TV shows and music and culture. Brands could do that too, and it's like an Easter egg. It's really cool if you can incorporate that into your campaigns. It could be massive, especially when it comes to memorability.”</li><li><strong>Get nostalgic. </strong>Pull from fondly remembered content. Tugging on those heartstrings, or the content people see with rose-colored glasses, creates that positive association with your brand. Max says, “You can see this a lot in Tarantino's films.  I think a prime example is in <i>Pulp Fiction</i> when they enter Jack Rabbit Slims and they're walking around the restaurant and you see Marilyn Monroe in there and you see James Dean. The waitresses and the waiters are all people from the fifties.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”He has this distinctive style that stands out. If you're going to a [Quentin] Tarantino film, you don't have to go in saying, ‘Hey, we're going to watch this Quentin Tarantino film.’ The moment that it starts, you're going to tell just from the visuals, from the cuts, from the camera work, that it is his. He has that immediate brand identity. That's a big part of your marketing, is having that memorable piece within your brand. This highlights the importance of developing a unique brand voice that can really help you stick out amongst this crowd of hundreds of other brands,”</p><p>*”When you see these things that bring back positive memories, I think if you can do that with your branding, then whatever it is you're doing, whether it be a campaign or or a commercial spot, a Facebook ad, people will remember it better. And if they remember it better, ideally they'll purchase your product or want to work with you, or they'll have that positive brand association with you.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Max Bard, VP of Content at Pray.com</p><p>[1:56] Discussing Quentin Tarantino's Films and Influence</p><p>[6:21] Max's Role at Pray.com</p><p>[16:30] About Quentin Tarantino's Unique Film Style</p><p>[23:24] Marketing Takeaways from Tarantino</p><p>[28:54] The Power of Over-the-Top Branding</p><p>[30:27] Intertextuality: Borrowing from the Best</p><p>[38:31] Nostalgia: Emotional Connection in Marketing</p><p>[45:19] Familiar Voices: Leveraging Celebrity Power</p><p>[50:34] Max’s Advice for other Marketing Professionals</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/maxbard/">Connect with Max on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.pray.com/">Learn more about Pray.com</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Ian Faison, Max Bard, Meredith Gooderham, Scott Goodrich)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you know Quentin Tarantino’s movies, it’s probably not a huge surprise that he’s a fan of Spaghetti Westerns. </p><p>Tarantino’s 2012 movie, <i>Django Unchained</i>, references Sergio Corbucci’s 1966 Spaghetti Western <i>Django.</i> But the tribute doesn’t stop there.</p><p>There’s a scene in <i>Django Unchained </i>where a man asks Django how he spells his name. Django says, “The D is silent.” The man responds, “I know.” </p><p>That man is Franco Nero, the actor who plays Django in the original 1966 movie. The two Djangos, 46 years apart, sitting side by side. This is what’s called intertextuality.</p><p>It’s referencing, quoting or alluding to other content. And it helps increase views and engagement with your content.</p><p>That’s one of the things we’re talking about today with Max Bard, VP of Content at Pray.com. </p><p>Together, we’re taking lessons from Oscar-winning director Quentin Tarantino, like exploring outside of what is considered “brand safe,” incorporating intertextuality and getting nostalgic in your content.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Max Bard</strong></p><p>Max Bard is an Executive Producer and the head of PRAY Studios, PRAY.COM’s content production arm. As the head of PRAY Studios, Max has produced over 5,500 original podcast episodes, audio books, and daily devotionals. Max has worked with Superbowl Champions like Drew Brees, Emmy Award winners like Dr Phil, and Grammy Award winners like Lecrae to create world-class content for the Christian audience.</p><p>Prior to PRAY.COM, Max was the President of VideoFort, Hollywood’s largest supplier of aerial and nature stock footage to companies like Getty Images, Adobe, and Shutterstock. VideoFort content has been used in Academy Award winning films, Cannes Lion award winning commercials, and Emmy award winning TV shows.</p><p>Max is from Los Angeles and graduated from the University of Southern California in 2014. After graduation Max pursued his dream of writing, directing, and editing film & video content in genres ranging from Drama to Advertising to Music Videos.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Quentin Tarantino:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Explore outside of what is “brand safe”.</strong> Sure, you can play it safe and continue to make slow but steady growth. But the big growth happens when you take risks. Max says, “If you want to hit the home runs, you have to take the big risks. And if you don't, then you can take the easy route and you'll probably keep that steady baseline. But if you want to get that massive spike, I think you got to try something every once in a while. Take that big risk.”</li><li><strong>Incorporate intertextuality. </strong>That is, use references to other popular content. You’ll get more eyes on your content because you’re piggybacking on what is already in the public consciousness. Max says, “Some people say that Quentin Tarantino copies other films.. But he is inspired by films of the past and TV shows and music and culture. Brands could do that too, and it's like an Easter egg. It's really cool if you can incorporate that into your campaigns. It could be massive, especially when it comes to memorability.”</li><li><strong>Get nostalgic. </strong>Pull from fondly remembered content. Tugging on those heartstrings, or the content people see with rose-colored glasses, creates that positive association with your brand. Max says, “You can see this a lot in Tarantino's films.  I think a prime example is in <i>Pulp Fiction</i> when they enter Jack Rabbit Slims and they're walking around the restaurant and you see Marilyn Monroe in there and you see James Dean. The waitresses and the waiters are all people from the fifties.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”He has this distinctive style that stands out. If you're going to a [Quentin] Tarantino film, you don't have to go in saying, ‘Hey, we're going to watch this Quentin Tarantino film.’ The moment that it starts, you're going to tell just from the visuals, from the cuts, from the camera work, that it is his. He has that immediate brand identity. That's a big part of your marketing, is having that memorable piece within your brand. This highlights the importance of developing a unique brand voice that can really help you stick out amongst this crowd of hundreds of other brands,”</p><p>*”When you see these things that bring back positive memories, I think if you can do that with your branding, then whatever it is you're doing, whether it be a campaign or or a commercial spot, a Facebook ad, people will remember it better. And if they remember it better, ideally they'll purchase your product or want to work with you, or they'll have that positive brand association with you.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Max Bard, VP of Content at Pray.com</p><p>[1:56] Discussing Quentin Tarantino's Films and Influence</p><p>[6:21] Max's Role at Pray.com</p><p>[16:30] About Quentin Tarantino's Unique Film Style</p><p>[23:24] Marketing Takeaways from Tarantino</p><p>[28:54] The Power of Over-the-Top Branding</p><p>[30:27] Intertextuality: Borrowing from the Best</p><p>[38:31] Nostalgia: Emotional Connection in Marketing</p><p>[45:19] Familiar Voices: Leveraging Celebrity Power</p><p>[50:34] Max’s Advice for other Marketing Professionals</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/maxbard/">Connect with Max on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.pray.com/">Learn more about Pray.com</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Quentin Tarantino: B2B Marketing Lessons from the Oscar-Winning Director with VP of Content at Pray.com, Max Bard</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:summary>If you know Quentin Tarantino’s movies, it’s probably not a huge surprise that he’s a fan of Spaghetti Westerns. 

Tarantino’s 2012 movie, Django Unchained, references Sergio Corbucci’s 1966 Spaghetti Western Django. But the tribute doesn’t stop there.

There’s a scene in Django Unchained where a man asks Django how he spells his name. Django says, “The D is silent.” The man responds, “I know.” 

That man is Franco Nero, the actor who plays Django in the original 1966 movie. The two Djangos, 46 years apart, sitting side by side. This is what’s called intertextuality. 

It’s referencing, quoting or alluding to other content. And it helps increase views and engagement with your content.

That’s one of the things we’re talking about today with Max Bard, VP of Content at Pray.com. 

Together, we’re taking lessons from Oscar-winning director Quentin Tarantino, like exploring outside of what is considered “brand safe,” incorporating intertextuality and getting nostalgic in your content.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>If you know Quentin Tarantino’s movies, it’s probably not a huge surprise that he’s a fan of Spaghetti Westerns. 

Tarantino’s 2012 movie, Django Unchained, references Sergio Corbucci’s 1966 Spaghetti Western Django. But the tribute doesn’t stop there.

There’s a scene in Django Unchained where a man asks Django how he spells his name. Django says, “The D is silent.” The man responds, “I know.” 

That man is Franco Nero, the actor who plays Django in the original 1966 movie. The two Djangos, 46 years apart, sitting side by side. This is what’s called intertextuality. 

It’s referencing, quoting or alluding to other content. And it helps increase views and engagement with your content.

That’s one of the things we’re talking about today with Max Bard, VP of Content at Pray.com. 

Together, we’re taking lessons from Oscar-winning director Quentin Tarantino, like exploring outside of what is considered “brand safe,” incorporating intertextuality and getting nostalgic in your content.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>What is the one thing that only your brand can bring to the table? Tapping into that thing is key to better messaging, better positioning, and better engagement.</p><p>And here to help us sift out that marketing gold is our special guest, Content Marketing Manager at Varonis, Lexi Croisdale. </p><p>Together we’re talking about the podcast <i>New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelce</i>. </p><p>Together, we’re pulling marketing lessons from it, like fighting where you can win, making your teammate the face of your content, and prioritizing social content.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Lexi Croisdale</strong></p><p>Lexi Croisdale is the Content Marketing Manager at Varonis. Prior to joining Varonis in May 2023, Lexi served as Senior Content Marketing Manager at higher education engagement platform Mongoose, where she developed and executed the company’s content and social media marketing strategies. She brings with her over 7 years of experience helping marketing teams across various industries make creative content.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> New Heights</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Make your teammate the face of your content. </strong>Who you choose depends on a handful of factors. Lexi says, “A lot of times, especially in content where you're like, ‘I have this video I want to create, but I need someone to be on camera.’ Like you always think of your CEO, or someone like that. But maybe the subject matter expert or like the specialist on your team is really good at public speaking and actually has the time and the bandwidth to also be that person. And then you kind of can create that personality internally.”</li><li><strong>Fight where you can win. </strong>What can you do that no one else can? For the Kelce brothers, they’re both elite NFL players, Superbowl winners and (obviously) brothers. That’s what makes the podcast special, and stand out among other football podcasts. Ian says, “As a lesson for marketers, they're doing something that only they can do. And it's like, when they talk about stuff, that's familial, it's only something that only they can talk about. Nobody else can have that sort of talk track.”</li><li><strong>Put social first.</strong> New Heights focuses strongly on social promotion. They cut the episode into clips that are distributed across social media channels which increases engagement, listenership and awareness of the podcast. Lexi says, “The editing style and the way that they go about it evolves with each episode, even though the template might be the same. They find a way to repurpose it and keep going without it just needing to tie to like, ‘Here's two brothers talking about football.” It’s a way that non-listeners find out about the show, and are drawn to their banter instead of just football content.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Not every piece of content has to fit into a box or be the way that you thought it would be to build an audience. Like you just need to focus on delivering the content in the right way, and being relatable and having that niche outlook.”</p><p>*”Just because you start [your content] some way doesn't mean it always has to be that exact thing. It can evolve as long as you keep the core tenets of it.”</p><p>*”A lot of times, you put a lot of work into content or a campaign and it doesn't work. Like, it doesn't give you the ROI or the kind of results that you were hoping for. But if you sit back and you take that as a lesson and you just see it more as a learning experiment, something that you did and test it out and learned from instead of a failure, you're going to see a lot of growth in your creative strategy and how you're executing and adapting your content to fit your channels that you're posting it on.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Lexi Croisdale, Content Marketing Manager at Varonis</p><p>[3:12] Varonis and Content Marketing Strategies</p><p>[7:22] The Making of New Heights Podcast</p><p>[14:32] Marketing Lessons from New Heights</p><p>[26:41] The Power of Social-First Content</p><p>[27:09] Engaging Guests and Evolving Content</p><p>[29:01] The Importance of Social Clipping</p><p>[30:58] Building an Audience Through Relatable Content</p><p>[36:43] Content Strategy at Varonis</p><p>[38:50] The Impact of Video Content</p><p>[48:53] Advice for Content Marketers</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexiscroisdale/">Connect with Lexi on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.varonis.com/">Learn more about Varonis</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the one thing that only your brand can bring to the table? Tapping into that thing is key to better messaging, better positioning, and better engagement.</p><p>And here to help us sift out that marketing gold is our special guest, Content Marketing Manager at Varonis, Lexi Croisdale. </p><p>Together we’re talking about the podcast <i>New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelce</i>. </p><p>Together, we’re pulling marketing lessons from it, like fighting where you can win, making your teammate the face of your content, and prioritizing social content.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Lexi Croisdale</strong></p><p>Lexi Croisdale is the Content Marketing Manager at Varonis. Prior to joining Varonis in May 2023, Lexi served as Senior Content Marketing Manager at higher education engagement platform Mongoose, where she developed and executed the company’s content and social media marketing strategies. She brings with her over 7 years of experience helping marketing teams across various industries make creative content.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> New Heights</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Make your teammate the face of your content. </strong>Who you choose depends on a handful of factors. Lexi says, “A lot of times, especially in content where you're like, ‘I have this video I want to create, but I need someone to be on camera.’ Like you always think of your CEO, or someone like that. But maybe the subject matter expert or like the specialist on your team is really good at public speaking and actually has the time and the bandwidth to also be that person. And then you kind of can create that personality internally.”</li><li><strong>Fight where you can win. </strong>What can you do that no one else can? For the Kelce brothers, they’re both elite NFL players, Superbowl winners and (obviously) brothers. That’s what makes the podcast special, and stand out among other football podcasts. Ian says, “As a lesson for marketers, they're doing something that only they can do. And it's like, when they talk about stuff, that's familial, it's only something that only they can talk about. Nobody else can have that sort of talk track.”</li><li><strong>Put social first.</strong> New Heights focuses strongly on social promotion. They cut the episode into clips that are distributed across social media channels which increases engagement, listenership and awareness of the podcast. Lexi says, “The editing style and the way that they go about it evolves with each episode, even though the template might be the same. They find a way to repurpose it and keep going without it just needing to tie to like, ‘Here's two brothers talking about football.” It’s a way that non-listeners find out about the show, and are drawn to their banter instead of just football content.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Not every piece of content has to fit into a box or be the way that you thought it would be to build an audience. Like you just need to focus on delivering the content in the right way, and being relatable and having that niche outlook.”</p><p>*”Just because you start [your content] some way doesn't mean it always has to be that exact thing. It can evolve as long as you keep the core tenets of it.”</p><p>*”A lot of times, you put a lot of work into content or a campaign and it doesn't work. Like, it doesn't give you the ROI or the kind of results that you were hoping for. But if you sit back and you take that as a lesson and you just see it more as a learning experiment, something that you did and test it out and learned from instead of a failure, you're going to see a lot of growth in your creative strategy and how you're executing and adapting your content to fit your channels that you're posting it on.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Lexi Croisdale, Content Marketing Manager at Varonis</p><p>[3:12] Varonis and Content Marketing Strategies</p><p>[7:22] The Making of New Heights Podcast</p><p>[14:32] Marketing Lessons from New Heights</p><p>[26:41] The Power of Social-First Content</p><p>[27:09] Engaging Guests and Evolving Content</p><p>[29:01] The Importance of Social Clipping</p><p>[30:58] Building an Audience Through Relatable Content</p><p>[36:43] Content Strategy at Varonis</p><p>[38:50] The Impact of Video Content</p><p>[48:53] Advice for Content Marketers</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexiscroisdale/">Connect with Lexi on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.varonis.com/">Learn more about Varonis</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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And here to help us sift out that marketing gold is our special guest, Content Marketing Manager at Varonis, Lexi Croisdale. 

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      <title>Sex and the City: B2B Marketing Lessons from the Emmy Award-Winning Show with Head of Content at Dandy, Rocky Rakovic</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>You may know <i>Sex and the City </i>as a massive hit and content machine - and the reason everyone was drinking cosmopolitans. </p><p>But you may not know that it started as an actual newspaper column.</p><p>So let’s talk about how and why that one piece of content made a lasting mark on the cultural zeitgeist. </p><p>And what we can take from the show and apply to our own marketing.</p><p>In this episode, we’re talking about the Emmy Award-winning show with the Head of Content at Dandy, Rocky Rakovic. </p><p>Together, we talk about how content marketing is like dating your audience, why style and design are important, and why it’s crucial to report back to the group.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Rocky Rakovic</strong></p><p>Rocky Rakovic is Head of Content at Dandy. He has been with the company since September 2022. Prior to Dandy, Rocky served as Director of Content & Community at Ro. He has also led content and brand activation for Time Out Group, and worked as Editor in Chief at Inked, and Editor at Playboy.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Sex and the City</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Content marketing is like dating your audience.</strong> Rocky says, “You're courting the customer. You want to make sure that you find the right person. Ultimately what a marketer does is they play matchmaker between company and customer. And your ultimate goal is to look for a mutually beneficial relationship between the two.”</li><li><strong>Style and design are important. </strong>Once your messaging is tucked away, dial in the visual details. Rocky says, “If Carrie wore Crocs, I wonder if she would have had the same draw, if the show would have done that well. Fashion was such the fifth character - and maybe the city was the fifth and fashion was the sixth character in that show. And I've been in conversations like, ‘Let's just do the scrappy, quick and dirty video.’ And it's like, ‘Or we could take our time and do it right and have the design look [good].  And I just think good design, good look and feel really enhance whatever message you're giving.” He adds, “The quality of content speaks to the care that the company has in everything they deliver.”</li><li><strong>Report back to the group. </strong>Bring your content ideas back to your team for feedback. Rocky says, “In content creation, you gotta go off and do parts of it on your own. That's not gonna happen in a room or a Zoom, the really great stuff. But I think that you can come back to your team and say, ‘What do you think of this thing that I came up with?’ And if you've got a good team that you can trust, they'll be a great barometer.” It’s like how Carrie, Miranda, Samantha and Charlotte all get together and talk about the guys they’re dating. It’s how they connect and process their romantic lives.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”You got to be a champion of your audience over everything else. Like as a marketer, you are translating the brand mission into pain points that you can tell your audience about that will help them. And you've got to feed back what you're hearing from that audience to the higher ups to explain like, ‘No, no, no, here's where we should be spending our time. Cause here's what potential customers and current customers are looking for.’” - Rocky Rakovic</p><p>*”What we seek to create in content is not something great. It is something different. You need to create the thing that makes you unique at the party.” - Ian Faison</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Rocky Rakovic, Head of Content at Dandy</p><p>[3:01] Dandy's Innovative Approach to Dentistry</p><p>[6:54] Rocky's Career Journey</p><p>[12:21] Sex and the City: Origins and Impact</p><p>[30:12] Real Talk in 'Sex and the City'</p><p>[32:32] Impact of HBO Shows</p><p>[35:27] Design and Marketing Insights</p><p>[40:34] Content Strategy and Audience Engagement</p><p>[41:58] Creative Campaigns</p><p>[47:58] Journalism in B2B Marketing</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rocky-rakovic-29512249/">Connect with Rocky on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.meetdandy.com/new/?utm_medium=paidsearch&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=brand-e&utm_content=core&_bt=700749988227&_bk=dandy&_bm=e&_bn=g&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwydSzBhBOEiwAj0XN4DI4z04lbs1H5nJfARyicsKO2p3FVgDBGl7gT1QpXOEFirF92c--ZBoCGLMQAvD_BwE">Learn more about Dandy</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2024 09:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Ian Faison, Rocky Rakovic, Meredith Gooderham, Scott Goodrich)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may know <i>Sex and the City </i>as a massive hit and content machine - and the reason everyone was drinking cosmopolitans. </p><p>But you may not know that it started as an actual newspaper column.</p><p>So let’s talk about how and why that one piece of content made a lasting mark on the cultural zeitgeist. </p><p>And what we can take from the show and apply to our own marketing.</p><p>In this episode, we’re talking about the Emmy Award-winning show with the Head of Content at Dandy, Rocky Rakovic. </p><p>Together, we talk about how content marketing is like dating your audience, why style and design are important, and why it’s crucial to report back to the group.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Rocky Rakovic</strong></p><p>Rocky Rakovic is Head of Content at Dandy. He has been with the company since September 2022. Prior to Dandy, Rocky served as Director of Content & Community at Ro. 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And I've been in conversations like, ‘Let's just do the scrappy, quick and dirty video.’ And it's like, ‘Or we could take our time and do it right and have the design look [good].  And I just think good design, good look and feel really enhance whatever message you're giving.” He adds, “The quality of content speaks to the care that the company has in everything they deliver.”</li><li><strong>Report back to the group. </strong>Bring your content ideas back to your team for feedback. Rocky says, “In content creation, you gotta go off and do parts of it on your own. That's not gonna happen in a room or a Zoom, the really great stuff. But I think that you can come back to your team and say, ‘What do you think of this thing that I came up with?’ And if you've got a good team that you can trust, they'll be a great barometer.” It’s like how Carrie, Miranda, Samantha and Charlotte all get together and talk about the guys they’re dating. It’s how they connect and process their romantic lives.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”You got to be a champion of your audience over everything else. Like as a marketer, you are translating the brand mission into pain points that you can tell your audience about that will help them. And you've got to feed back what you're hearing from that audience to the higher ups to explain like, ‘No, no, no, here's where we should be spending our time. Cause here's what potential customers and current customers are looking for.’” - Rocky Rakovic</p><p>*”What we seek to create in content is not something great. It is something different. You need to create the thing that makes you unique at the party.” - Ian Faison</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Rocky Rakovic, Head of Content at Dandy</p><p>[3:01] Dandy's Innovative Approach to Dentistry</p><p>[6:54] Rocky's Career Journey</p><p>[12:21] Sex and the City: Origins and Impact</p><p>[30:12] Real Talk in 'Sex and the City'</p><p>[32:32] Impact of HBO Shows</p><p>[35:27] Design and Marketing Insights</p><p>[40:34] Content Strategy and Audience Engagement</p><p>[41:58] Creative Campaigns</p><p>[47:58] Journalism in B2B Marketing</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rocky-rakovic-29512249/">Connect with Rocky on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.meetdandy.com/new/?utm_medium=paidsearch&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=brand-e&utm_content=core&_bt=700749988227&_bk=dandy&_bm=e&_bn=g&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwydSzBhBOEiwAj0XN4DI4z04lbs1H5nJfARyicsKO2p3FVgDBGl7gT1QpXOEFirF92c--ZBoCGLMQAvD_BwE">Learn more about Dandy</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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And what we can take from the show and apply to our own marketing.

In this episode, we’re talking about the Emmy Award-winning show with the Head of Content at Dandy, Rocky Rakovic. 

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      <description><![CDATA[<p>It’s tempting to add some sauce to your content to give it flavor. But if the meat isn’t there, what’s the point? </p><p>You have to make sure there’s substance to your work before adding style. That’s one of the things we talk about with Caroline Van Dyke.</p><p>In this episode, we’re taking marketing lessons from <i>Hot Ones</i> with Caroline’s help. She’s the Head of Content at Skilljar. </p><p>And together, we talk about making customers the star, focusing on the meat of the content, and much more.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Caroline Van Dyke</strong></p><p>Caroline Van Dyke is Head of Content at customer education software company Skilljar. She is a content and creative strategist with more than 10 years experience leading B2B start-up content strategies. Her panache? Puns & a little personality can take brands up a notch. She joined Skilljar in October 2023, and previously worked in various leadership roles at RollWorks and Zugata (acquired by Culture Amp).</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Hot Ones</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Make customers the star. </strong>Highlight how your product is helping them. Use their voice in your content. Caroline says, “As a content creator in B2B spaces, when's the right time to make it like, ‘Hey, look at us and some personality on our team or thought leader.’ Is it actually helpful to other people in the audience? Or do you help them make their customers the stars and help give them that material?” It’s like how Sean Evans rarely talks about himself, because his focus is on elevating the guest and highlighting their work. </li><li><strong>Focus on the actual meat of the content.</strong> Educate, entertain, and drive value through the content first. Then you can think about making things visually appealing. But when you put style over substance, your content suffers. Caroline says, “Put that effort into what the actual meat of the content is. That's research, getting to know people, and then we're a little bit more forgiving of how things look. Yes, we want them to still be visually appealing and do your best, but gone are the days of pretending that spending all that money or time just on a facade of something is going to also equal great outcomes.” In <i>Hot Ones</i>, this means that the value is on the quality of the questions and research behind them, versus focusing on having a shiny, sparkly set. </li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”We're all just kind of raising this bar together of sameness. And so where can you go to get something a little bit different? And that's not to say that you don't also need that sea of sameness and stability and  important stuff. But what on top of it can you add?”</p><p>*”You can't rip and replace a lot of this conversation around taking B2C and making it B2B. It's not one for one. And you'll see people do it poorly, unfortunately, of thinking, ‘Hey, a consumer likes this. So I'm just going to copy it exactly and somehow make the pun relate to my industry.’ If it doesn't land for your audience, respect that other program and don't duplicate it.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Caroline Van Dyke, Head of Content at Skilljar</p><p>[2:44] Caroline Van Dyke's Role at SkillJar</p><p>[3:41] The Origin Story of <i>Hot Ones</i></p><p>[5:41] The Unique Format and Success of Hot Ones</p><p>[14:16] Analyzing the Interview Style of Hot Ones</p><p>[23:38] The Trust Factor in Interviews</p><p>[24:35] The Simplicity and Success of <i>Hot Ones</i></p><p>[26:17] Marketing Insights and Trends</p><p>[27:11] Imitation and Innovation in Content</p><p>[28:04] The Importance of Authenticity</p><p>[32:03] Balancing Creativity and Strategy</p><p>[35:18] Content Strategy at SkillJar</p><p>[41:18] The Future of B2B Content</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAzrgbu8gEMIIK3r4Se1dOZWSZzUSadfZ">Watch <i>Hot Ones</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/carolinevandyke/">Connect with Caroline on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.skilljar.com/">Learn more about Skilljar</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s tempting to add some sauce to your content to give it flavor. But if the meat isn’t there, what’s the point? </p><p>You have to make sure there’s substance to your work before adding style. That’s one of the things we talk about with Caroline Van Dyke.</p><p>In this episode, we’re taking marketing lessons from <i>Hot Ones</i> with Caroline’s help. She’s the Head of Content at Skilljar. </p><p>And together, we talk about making customers the star, focusing on the meat of the content, and much more.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Caroline Van Dyke</strong></p><p>Caroline Van Dyke is Head of Content at customer education software company Skilljar. She is a content and creative strategist with more than 10 years experience leading B2B start-up content strategies. Her panache? Puns & a little personality can take brands up a notch. She joined Skilljar in October 2023, and previously worked in various leadership roles at RollWorks and Zugata (acquired by Culture Amp).</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Hot Ones</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Make customers the star. </strong>Highlight how your product is helping them. Use their voice in your content. Caroline says, “As a content creator in B2B spaces, when's the right time to make it like, ‘Hey, look at us and some personality on our team or thought leader.’ Is it actually helpful to other people in the audience? Or do you help them make their customers the stars and help give them that material?” It’s like how Sean Evans rarely talks about himself, because his focus is on elevating the guest and highlighting their work. </li><li><strong>Focus on the actual meat of the content.</strong> Educate, entertain, and drive value through the content first. Then you can think about making things visually appealing. But when you put style over substance, your content suffers. Caroline says, “Put that effort into what the actual meat of the content is. That's research, getting to know people, and then we're a little bit more forgiving of how things look. Yes, we want them to still be visually appealing and do your best, but gone are the days of pretending that spending all that money or time just on a facade of something is going to also equal great outcomes.” In <i>Hot Ones</i>, this means that the value is on the quality of the questions and research behind them, versus focusing on having a shiny, sparkly set. </li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”We're all just kind of raising this bar together of sameness. And so where can you go to get something a little bit different? And that's not to say that you don't also need that sea of sameness and stability and  important stuff. But what on top of it can you add?”</p><p>*”You can't rip and replace a lot of this conversation around taking B2C and making it B2B. It's not one for one. And you'll see people do it poorly, unfortunately, of thinking, ‘Hey, a consumer likes this. So I'm just going to copy it exactly and somehow make the pun relate to my industry.’ If it doesn't land for your audience, respect that other program and don't duplicate it.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Caroline Van Dyke, Head of Content at Skilljar</p><p>[2:44] Caroline Van Dyke's Role at SkillJar</p><p>[3:41] The Origin Story of <i>Hot Ones</i></p><p>[5:41] The Unique Format and Success of Hot Ones</p><p>[14:16] Analyzing the Interview Style of Hot Ones</p><p>[23:38] The Trust Factor in Interviews</p><p>[24:35] The Simplicity and Success of <i>Hot Ones</i></p><p>[26:17] Marketing Insights and Trends</p><p>[27:11] Imitation and Innovation in Content</p><p>[28:04] The Importance of Authenticity</p><p>[32:03] Balancing Creativity and Strategy</p><p>[35:18] Content Strategy at SkillJar</p><p>[41:18] The Future of B2B Content</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAzrgbu8gEMIIK3r4Se1dOZWSZzUSadfZ">Watch <i>Hot Ones</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/carolinevandyke/">Connect with Caroline on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.skilljar.com/">Learn more about Skilljar</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Drive to Survive: B2B Marketing Lessons from the Series that Saved Formula 1 Racing with VP of Global Executive Marketing at Salesforce, Kexin Chen</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>B2B content is often impersonal. It may be clean and polished and dialed in, much like an F1 race car. But as pretty as it is, it may blend into all the rest. </p><p>But if you let your audience under the hood, that’s how you win them over. You show them your personality, that there are real people behind the brand.</p><p>That’s one of the things we’re talking about today as we take marketing lessons from <i>Drive to Survive. </i>All with the help of the VP of Global Executive Marketing at Salesforce, Kexin Chen. </p><p>Together, we talk about letting people under the hood, how confusion equals no sale, and tapping into new channels to open to the door to new audiences.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Kexin Chen</strong></p><p>Kexin Chen is VP of Global Executive Marketing. In her role, she leverages the latest advancements in media, customer advocacy, and storytelling to spark engagement with CEOs and their leadership team. She’s run high profile programs like the Olympics, F1, and Cannes for C-Suite leaders to collaborate and share their authentic stories of driving change in business, industry, and society.</p><p>Prior to Salesforce, Kexin was the second marketing hire at NextRoll where she built and scaled the marketing functions from the ground up.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Drive to Survive</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Tap into new channels, open the door to new audiences. </strong>Go where your target audience is. If it’s social media, release content on LinkedIn, TikTok, Instagram, etc. That’s often where you’ll find your younger audience members. Kexin says, “[Liberty Media has] done a really good job with focusing on digital engagement and stepping out of how do we actually not just think about the TV broadcast, but also think about all the social channels we have and get these drivers out on TikTok, on Snap, to reach that younger audience?”</li><li><strong>Confusion = no sale. </strong>It’s simple: your audience won’t buy what they don’t understand. So make it as easily understood as possible. Use their language. And if there’s jargon, explain it. Ian says, “You have to simplify  Everything to its most elemental sort of level. They had to demystify what Formula 1 was to explain like what this whole thing is.” And demystifying Formula 1 has transformed their audience. A 2021 Nielsen study says, “The fanbase has almost doubled since 2017. During that period, the average age of Formula 1 viewers dropped by four years, to 32, and female participation has doubled.”</li><li><strong>Let people under the hood. </strong>The success of <i>Drive to Survive</i> relies on the film crew’s ability to get up close and personal with the Formula 1 drivers. To be so ever-present that the teams forget the film crew is there, and be their most authentic selves. This gives viewers a real look at what it means to be an F1 driver. Ian says, “The mentality for this sort of stuff is like, ‘Well, if we let them under the hood, what if they see something bad?’ And it's like, ‘What if we don't let them under the hood and then they never come back?’” The idea is that by letting people under the hood, you attract the right audience and make that product-market fit that lasts. So show people an authentic view of your company and product, and gain your audience’s trust through transparency.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”If we are just trying to sell to [our audience], it's not going to work. And so we have to ensure that we're balancing educating them on the value of our platform and why it's going to completely change their organization. But also we want to build a really trusted relationship and figure out how to arm them with what it's going to take for them to actually be the champion and the star at their organization for bringing Salesforce.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet VP of Global Executive Marketing at Salesforce, Kexin Chen</p><p>[1:44] Impact of <i>Drive to Survive</i> on Formula 1</p><p>[2:48] Kexin Chen's Role at Salesforce</p><p>[4:40] The Marketing Miracle of <i>Drive to Survive</i></p><p>[7:40] The Human Element in Sports Marketing</p><p>[14:15] Global Expansion and Strategy of Formula 1</p><p>[24:49] Engaging Executives and Building Communities</p><p>[33:20] Final Thoughts</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80204890">Watch <i>Drive to Survive</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kexinchen/">Connect with Kexin on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.salesforce.com/">Learn more about Salesforce</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Ian Faison, Meredith Gooderham, Scott Goodrich, Kexin Chen)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B2B content is often impersonal. It may be clean and polished and dialed in, much like an F1 race car. But as pretty as it is, it may blend into all the rest. </p><p>But if you let your audience under the hood, that’s how you win them over. You show them your personality, that there are real people behind the brand.</p><p>That’s one of the things we’re talking about today as we take marketing lessons from <i>Drive to Survive. </i>All with the help of the VP of Global Executive Marketing at Salesforce, Kexin Chen. </p><p>Together, we talk about letting people under the hood, how confusion equals no sale, and tapping into new channels to open to the door to new audiences.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Kexin Chen</strong></p><p>Kexin Chen is VP of Global Executive Marketing. In her role, she leverages the latest advancements in media, customer advocacy, and storytelling to spark engagement with CEOs and their leadership team. She’s run high profile programs like the Olympics, F1, and Cannes for C-Suite leaders to collaborate and share their authentic stories of driving change in business, industry, and society.</p><p>Prior to Salesforce, Kexin was the second marketing hire at NextRoll where she built and scaled the marketing functions from the ground up.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Drive to Survive</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Tap into new channels, open the door to new audiences. </strong>Go where your target audience is. If it’s social media, release content on LinkedIn, TikTok, Instagram, etc. That’s often where you’ll find your younger audience members. Kexin says, “[Liberty Media has] done a really good job with focusing on digital engagement and stepping out of how do we actually not just think about the TV broadcast, but also think about all the social channels we have and get these drivers out on TikTok, on Snap, to reach that younger audience?”</li><li><strong>Confusion = no sale. </strong>It’s simple: your audience won’t buy what they don’t understand. So make it as easily understood as possible. Use their language. And if there’s jargon, explain it. Ian says, “You have to simplify  Everything to its most elemental sort of level. They had to demystify what Formula 1 was to explain like what this whole thing is.” And demystifying Formula 1 has transformed their audience. A 2021 Nielsen study says, “The fanbase has almost doubled since 2017. During that period, the average age of Formula 1 viewers dropped by four years, to 32, and female participation has doubled.”</li><li><strong>Let people under the hood. </strong>The success of <i>Drive to Survive</i> relies on the film crew’s ability to get up close and personal with the Formula 1 drivers. To be so ever-present that the teams forget the film crew is there, and be their most authentic selves. This gives viewers a real look at what it means to be an F1 driver. Ian says, “The mentality for this sort of stuff is like, ‘Well, if we let them under the hood, what if they see something bad?’ And it's like, ‘What if we don't let them under the hood and then they never come back?’” The idea is that by letting people under the hood, you attract the right audience and make that product-market fit that lasts. So show people an authentic view of your company and product, and gain your audience’s trust through transparency.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”If we are just trying to sell to [our audience], it's not going to work. And so we have to ensure that we're balancing educating them on the value of our platform and why it's going to completely change their organization. But also we want to build a really trusted relationship and figure out how to arm them with what it's going to take for them to actually be the champion and the star at their organization for bringing Salesforce.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet VP of Global Executive Marketing at Salesforce, Kexin Chen</p><p>[1:44] Impact of <i>Drive to Survive</i> on Formula 1</p><p>[2:48] Kexin Chen's Role at Salesforce</p><p>[4:40] The Marketing Miracle of <i>Drive to Survive</i></p><p>[7:40] The Human Element in Sports Marketing</p><p>[14:15] Global Expansion and Strategy of Formula 1</p><p>[24:49] Engaging Executives and Building Communities</p><p>[33:20] Final Thoughts</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80204890">Watch <i>Drive to Survive</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kexinchen/">Connect with Kexin on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.salesforce.com/">Learn more about Salesforce</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever predicted your next campaign’s success with uncanny accuracy? You will. </p><p>That’s because we’re bringing you marketing lessons this week from AT&T’s “You Will” campaign with the help of our special guest, Rokt CMO Doug Rozen.</p><p>Together, we talk about demonstrating the future, using intrigue as a marketing tool, closing your copy strong, and increasing the frequency of your ads.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Doug Rozen</strong></p><p>As Chief Marketing Officer at Rokt, Doug Rozen leads strategy & execution for all Rokt’s global go to market efforts. Known for seamlessly exploiting the intersection of creativity, technology and data, Doug has been recognized globally for transforming companies through change & removing barriers in the business world. He’s been fortunate to be part of many major industry firsts and has become a trusted, go-to adviser in delivering modern marketing for some of the world’s greatest brands. </p><p>Prior to joining Rokt, Doug served as CEO of dentsu Media, where he was responsible for 4,350+ media experts and $20+ billion in media at Carat, iProspect, dentsu X, 360i & beyond. Before dentsu Media, Doug was the first Chief Media Officer at 360i, where he helped them become a Forrester leader, MediaPost Agency of the Year, & AdAge A-list agency. He joined 360i from OMD, where he led digital & innovation activities globally at a critical period in our industry. Before Omnicom, Doug served as Chief Innovation Officer & General Manager at Meredith & created Carlson Marketing’s global agency unit including creative, media, mobile & social offerings. He also helped guide its acquisition by Aimia. Earlier, Doug served as Senior Partner & Managing Director at WPP's JWT, where as one of the first digital leaders he established digital@jwt and combined it with other direct and data offerings. </p><p>Doug is a vocal cancer survivor and proud advocate for Stand Up to Cancer. He holds a BS in Psychology from the University of Wisconsin–Madison and has studied ecommerce at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business and artificial intelligence at UC Berkeley’s Haas School of Business. Doug is an avid cyclist and skier, living in Connecticut with his wife, daughter and son.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>AT&T’s “You Will” Campaign:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Demonstrate the future. </strong>Show your audience the benefit of doing business with you. Give them a visual of the time saved or frustrations avoided by using your product. Ian says, “It speaks to the simplicity of consumer experience and product experience. [Identifying] pain points of, ‘Hey, this thing is annoying. I bet you something will fix that.’” And Doug adds, “I think as a marketer, part of my job is to help, both internally and externally, audiences understand the future and be ready for it. And so I think a key component of this campaign is that ability to predict the future. And have a point of view.”</li><li><strong>Intrigue is a powerful tool. </strong>Make your audience question and think about the possibilities if they were to buy your product. Start with a question. In the AT&T “You Think” campaign, they started each ad with something like: “Have you ever kept an eye on your home when you’re not at home?” Asking a question gets your audience engaged immediately by thinking of their answer. </li><li><strong>Have a strong close. </strong>This campaign is called the “You Will” campaign for a reason. Because each ad spot ended with the phrase, “You Will. And the company that will bring it to you: AT&T.” This campaign became iconic not just for its futuristic predictions, but for its strong copy. Doug says, “These commercials and these messages closed an ad as good as any I've ever seen. To me, this felt less like ads and more like little pieces of content.” </li><li><strong>Increase the frequency of your ads.</strong> Include two or three examples of the benefits of your product. It’s essentially fitting multiple ads in one, and uses the power of repetition. In each ad from the AT&T “You Will” campaign, they asked three questions. For example, “Have you ever opened doors with the sound of your voice, carried your medical history in your wallet, or attended a meeting in your bare feet?” And each question suggested a new technology AT&T was working on. Doug says, “A 30-second commercial would have three of them in a row. And so they get two or three of these in what was a standard spot length. And so you got frequency as part of that as well, which is just brilliant.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”I don't care if it's 1 second, 5 seconds, 20 seconds or 20 minutes. Good pieces of content, branded content, need a beginning, middle, and end. And I think that's what [the AT&T “You Will”] campaign has. And I'd say 90 percent of campaigns don't have that. ”</p><p>*”A key component of story building is data. The fact that research was the foundation to which then the stories came to life. I think a lot of times, building a story is about having that data and doing something with it in a really interesting way. And being okay that we don't know how to solve it, but we're going to craft a story about our role, even though we're in the process of solving it. That's bold.”</p><p>*”I think it's important for all marketers to believe in your product. If you don't, then I think you're going to be missing the passion and zest that is necessary to be a good marketer. If you don't, how do you find the magic? To me, the magic is what makes marketing great.”</p><p>*”That's such an important factor in today's marketing landscape, is just to know who you are, and more importantly, know who you're not. And if you're going to make a moment, really make it stand out and, and really trust yourself.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Rokt CMO Doug Rozen</p><p>[1:51] The Impact of Storytelling vs. Story Building in Marketing</p><p>[3:43] The Genius Behind Predicting the Future: AT&T's Marketing Mastery</p><p>[15:35 Exploring the Role of Data in Product Success</p><p>[22:04] Unveiling Brand Identity and the Power of Category Creation</p><p>[23:16] The Art of Timeless Campaigns and Content Marketing Mastery</p><p>[23:41] Reviving Classic Campaigns: A Nostalgic Marketing Strategy</p><p>[24:27] The Evolution of AT&T's Marketing Strategy: A Case Study</p><p>[25:22] The Impact of Leadership Changes on Marketing Campaigns</p><p>[25:41] Sustaining Iconic Ad Campaigns and Brand Identity</p><p>[30:40] The Strategic Shift in Marketing Approach at Rokt</p><p>[33:03] Leveraging Employee Influence in Content Strategy</p><p>[35:00] The Future of E-commerce and Content Marketing</p><p>[41:37] Content Strategy Insights for CMOs</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dougrozen/">Connect with Doug on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.rokt.com/">Learn more about Rokt</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever predicted your next campaign’s success with uncanny accuracy? You will. </p><p>That’s because we’re bringing you marketing lessons this week from AT&T’s “You Will” campaign with the help of our special guest, Rokt CMO Doug Rozen.</p><p>Together, we talk about demonstrating the future, using intrigue as a marketing tool, closing your copy strong, and increasing the frequency of your ads.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Doug Rozen</strong></p><p>As Chief Marketing Officer at Rokt, Doug Rozen leads strategy & execution for all Rokt’s global go to market efforts. Known for seamlessly exploiting the intersection of creativity, technology and data, Doug has been recognized globally for transforming companies through change & removing barriers in the business world. He’s been fortunate to be part of many major industry firsts and has become a trusted, go-to adviser in delivering modern marketing for some of the world’s greatest brands. </p><p>Prior to joining Rokt, Doug served as CEO of dentsu Media, where he was responsible for 4,350+ media experts and $20+ billion in media at Carat, iProspect, dentsu X, 360i & beyond. Before dentsu Media, Doug was the first Chief Media Officer at 360i, where he helped them become a Forrester leader, MediaPost Agency of the Year, & AdAge A-list agency. He joined 360i from OMD, where he led digital & innovation activities globally at a critical period in our industry. Before Omnicom, Doug served as Chief Innovation Officer & General Manager at Meredith & created Carlson Marketing’s global agency unit including creative, media, mobile & social offerings. He also helped guide its acquisition by Aimia. Earlier, Doug served as Senior Partner & Managing Director at WPP's JWT, where as one of the first digital leaders he established digital@jwt and combined it with other direct and data offerings. </p><p>Doug is a vocal cancer survivor and proud advocate for Stand Up to Cancer. He holds a BS in Psychology from the University of Wisconsin–Madison and has studied ecommerce at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business and artificial intelligence at UC Berkeley’s Haas School of Business. Doug is an avid cyclist and skier, living in Connecticut with his wife, daughter and son.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>AT&T’s “You Will” Campaign:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Demonstrate the future. </strong>Show your audience the benefit of doing business with you. Give them a visual of the time saved or frustrations avoided by using your product. Ian says, “It speaks to the simplicity of consumer experience and product experience. [Identifying] pain points of, ‘Hey, this thing is annoying. I bet you something will fix that.’” And Doug adds, “I think as a marketer, part of my job is to help, both internally and externally, audiences understand the future and be ready for it. And so I think a key component of this campaign is that ability to predict the future. And have a point of view.”</li><li><strong>Intrigue is a powerful tool. </strong>Make your audience question and think about the possibilities if they were to buy your product. Start with a question. In the AT&T “You Think” campaign, they started each ad with something like: “Have you ever kept an eye on your home when you’re not at home?” Asking a question gets your audience engaged immediately by thinking of their answer. </li><li><strong>Have a strong close. </strong>This campaign is called the “You Will” campaign for a reason. Because each ad spot ended with the phrase, “You Will. And the company that will bring it to you: AT&T.” This campaign became iconic not just for its futuristic predictions, but for its strong copy. Doug says, “These commercials and these messages closed an ad as good as any I've ever seen. To me, this felt less like ads and more like little pieces of content.” </li><li><strong>Increase the frequency of your ads.</strong> Include two or three examples of the benefits of your product. It’s essentially fitting multiple ads in one, and uses the power of repetition. In each ad from the AT&T “You Will” campaign, they asked three questions. For example, “Have you ever opened doors with the sound of your voice, carried your medical history in your wallet, or attended a meeting in your bare feet?” And each question suggested a new technology AT&T was working on. Doug says, “A 30-second commercial would have three of them in a row. And so they get two or three of these in what was a standard spot length. And so you got frequency as part of that as well, which is just brilliant.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”I don't care if it's 1 second, 5 seconds, 20 seconds or 20 minutes. Good pieces of content, branded content, need a beginning, middle, and end. And I think that's what [the AT&T “You Will”] campaign has. And I'd say 90 percent of campaigns don't have that. ”</p><p>*”A key component of story building is data. The fact that research was the foundation to which then the stories came to life. I think a lot of times, building a story is about having that data and doing something with it in a really interesting way. And being okay that we don't know how to solve it, but we're going to craft a story about our role, even though we're in the process of solving it. That's bold.”</p><p>*”I think it's important for all marketers to believe in your product. If you don't, then I think you're going to be missing the passion and zest that is necessary to be a good marketer. If you don't, how do you find the magic? To me, the magic is what makes marketing great.”</p><p>*”That's such an important factor in today's marketing landscape, is just to know who you are, and more importantly, know who you're not. And if you're going to make a moment, really make it stand out and, and really trust yourself.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Rokt CMO Doug Rozen</p><p>[1:51] The Impact of Storytelling vs. Story Building in Marketing</p><p>[3:43] The Genius Behind Predicting the Future: AT&T's Marketing Mastery</p><p>[15:35 Exploring the Role of Data in Product Success</p><p>[22:04] Unveiling Brand Identity and the Power of Category Creation</p><p>[23:16] The Art of Timeless Campaigns and Content Marketing Mastery</p><p>[23:41] Reviving Classic Campaigns: A Nostalgic Marketing Strategy</p><p>[24:27] The Evolution of AT&T's Marketing Strategy: A Case Study</p><p>[25:22] The Impact of Leadership Changes on Marketing Campaigns</p><p>[25:41] Sustaining Iconic Ad Campaigns and Brand Identity</p><p>[30:40] The Strategic Shift in Marketing Approach at Rokt</p><p>[33:03] Leveraging Employee Influence in Content Strategy</p><p>[35:00] The Future of E-commerce and Content Marketing</p><p>[41:37] Content Strategy Insights for CMOs</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dougrozen/">Connect with Doug on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.rokt.com/">Learn more about Rokt</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. 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      <description><![CDATA[<p>B2B marketers take themselves so seriously. A little self-deprecating humor wouldn’t go amiss. </p><p>It makes your brand more relatable, your content more shareable, and builds trust by acknowledging your brand’s imperfections.  </p><p>That’s one of the things we’re talking about today with Reveal CMO Isaac Morehouse. Together, we’re taking marketing lessons from the Emmy-nominated show, <i>Silicon Valley</i>, including using self-deprecating humor, showing the hero’s journey, and trusting your audience’s intelligence.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Isaac Morehouse</strong></p><p>Isaac Morehouse is the CMO of <a href="http://reveal.co/">Reveal</a> and <a href="http://nearbound.com/">nearbound.com</a>, working to bring the era of Nearbound to B2B Go-To-Market. He believes that trust is the new data and the future of business isn’t about more crappy sales calls, ads, and spammy SEO-optimized content, but genuine connection to those buyers have faith in.</p><p>He founded and now serves as an advisor to <a href="https://discoverpraxis.com/">Praxis</a>, and <a href="https://careerhackers.com/">Career Hackers</a>, and opting out of the education and career status quo to be your own credential remains near and dear to his heart.</p><p>Isaac is dedicated to the relentless pursuit of freedom. He loves writing, building companies, his wife and four kids, a good cigar, and getting angry about sports.</p><p>He’s given hundreds of talks and interviews, written over 2,500 articles, authored or edited eleven books, and helped thousands of people launch their careers and dozens of businesses tell their stories. He is a firm believer in learning out loud and daily commitment to creation.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Silicon Valley</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Make fun of yourself.</strong> Don’t take yourself too seriously - create self-deprecating content to make your audience laugh. Isaac says, “Content marketers, this is such a missed opportunity if you're not doing this. Make fun of yourself, make fun of your market, make fun of your marketing. Don't be precious. Accept and amplify the criticisms. The inevitable objections, if you can surface those ahead of time, get those up front in marketing. Poke fun at the things that you know people are going to poke fun at behind your back anyway.”</li><li><strong>Show the hero’s journey.</strong> Don’t just try to sell your product. Instead tell a story your product plays a part in, and include a beginning, middle and end. Isaac says, “It's so easy as content marketers to forget that very basic thing. Like, every story has a beginning, middle, and end. Every story should have a protagonist and should follow the journey. Make sure you're not losing that and just doing like, ‘Here's our product,’ right? Tell the story. That's what people can relate to. That's where they feel seen. If you're telling a story of a person facing adversity and achieving an outcome, I think [<i>Silicon Valley</i>] does that really well.”</li><li><strong>Don’t underestimate your audience’s intelligence.</strong> Don’t shy away from discussing technical or complicated topics, but do it in a way that’s understandable for anyone. Isaac says, “[<i>Silicon Valley</i>] does a phenomenal job of not running away from some of the complicated, complex concepts or insider jargon. I mean, they have discussions about, you know, letters of intent and legal contracts and stock preference stacks and waterfalls with exits. That's very insider lingo. They don't shy away from it. Because that's what makes it real and believable. But they do it in such a way that makes it understandable. Like if it's confusing, it's your fault as the content creator. You have to find a way. And this show does such a brilliant job of explaining these concepts in such a way that even outsiders can get the gist of it.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”I think it all starts with the core of knowing your market, living in market. [Mike Judge] nails the little slice of the world that he’s trying to satirize so, so well. And I think with satire especially, you can only do it well when you are the subject you're satirizing. Like, someone from the outside trying to make fun of a group that they're not part of, it's going to come off as offensive. They're going to get some things wrong. But when you're able to make fun of the little cluster of the world that you live in yourself, you're going to get it so much more right. And it's going to be so much funnier. And at the same time, the redeeming qualities are captured.”</p><p>*”For me, living in market is so crucial and the best way to live in market Is with a forcing function of daily creation. Because I know that's the only way I'm going to be close enough to the market and what's happening. If I have to come up with content every single day to put in this newsletter, I've got to figure out, ‘Where are the watering holes. What are people talking about? What are the conversations?’ And then I'm going to have to do near bound marketing, which means bringing other voices in, reaching the market through the voices they already trust.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Reveal CMO Isaac Morehouse</p><p>[4:54] Behind the Scenes of Silicon Valley: Creation and Comedy</p><p>[20:58] Content Marketing Insights: Humor, Realness, and the Hero's Journey</p><p>[31:05] The Power of Storytelling in Marketing</p><p>[32:14] Embracing the Hero's Journey in Business</p><p>[32:54] Lessons from Silicon Valley: Making Complex Concepts Accessible</p><p>[37:33] The Importance of Trust and Expertise in Content Creation</p><p>[48:21] Building Nearbound: A New Approach to Partnerships</p><p>[51:56] Executing a Community and Content Vision</p><p>[56:21] Final Thoughts on Trust and Influence in Marketing</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/isaacmorehouse/">Connect with Isaac on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.reveal.co/">Learn more about Reveal</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2024 09:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Ian Faison, Isaac Morehouse, Meredith Gooderham, Jess Avellino, Scott Goodrich)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B2B marketers take themselves so seriously. A little self-deprecating humor wouldn’t go amiss. </p><p>It makes your brand more relatable, your content more shareable, and builds trust by acknowledging your brand’s imperfections.  </p><p>That’s one of the things we’re talking about today with Reveal CMO Isaac Morehouse. Together, we’re taking marketing lessons from the Emmy-nominated show, <i>Silicon Valley</i>, including using self-deprecating humor, showing the hero’s journey, and trusting your audience’s intelligence.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Isaac Morehouse</strong></p><p>Isaac Morehouse is the CMO of <a href="http://reveal.co/">Reveal</a> and <a href="http://nearbound.com/">nearbound.com</a>, working to bring the era of Nearbound to B2B Go-To-Market. He believes that trust is the new data and the future of business isn’t about more crappy sales calls, ads, and spammy SEO-optimized content, but genuine connection to those buyers have faith in.</p><p>He founded and now serves as an advisor to <a href="https://discoverpraxis.com/">Praxis</a>, and <a href="https://careerhackers.com/">Career Hackers</a>, and opting out of the education and career status quo to be your own credential remains near and dear to his heart.</p><p>Isaac is dedicated to the relentless pursuit of freedom. He loves writing, building companies, his wife and four kids, a good cigar, and getting angry about sports.</p><p>He’s given hundreds of talks and interviews, written over 2,500 articles, authored or edited eleven books, and helped thousands of people launch their careers and dozens of businesses tell their stories. He is a firm believer in learning out loud and daily commitment to creation.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Silicon Valley</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Make fun of yourself.</strong> Don’t take yourself too seriously - create self-deprecating content to make your audience laugh. Isaac says, “Content marketers, this is such a missed opportunity if you're not doing this. Make fun of yourself, make fun of your market, make fun of your marketing. Don't be precious. Accept and amplify the criticisms. The inevitable objections, if you can surface those ahead of time, get those up front in marketing. Poke fun at the things that you know people are going to poke fun at behind your back anyway.”</li><li><strong>Show the hero’s journey.</strong> Don’t just try to sell your product. Instead tell a story your product plays a part in, and include a beginning, middle and end. Isaac says, “It's so easy as content marketers to forget that very basic thing. Like, every story has a beginning, middle, and end. Every story should have a protagonist and should follow the journey. Make sure you're not losing that and just doing like, ‘Here's our product,’ right? Tell the story. That's what people can relate to. That's where they feel seen. If you're telling a story of a person facing adversity and achieving an outcome, I think [<i>Silicon Valley</i>] does that really well.”</li><li><strong>Don’t underestimate your audience’s intelligence.</strong> Don’t shy away from discussing technical or complicated topics, but do it in a way that’s understandable for anyone. Isaac says, “[<i>Silicon Valley</i>] does a phenomenal job of not running away from some of the complicated, complex concepts or insider jargon. I mean, they have discussions about, you know, letters of intent and legal contracts and stock preference stacks and waterfalls with exits. That's very insider lingo. They don't shy away from it. Because that's what makes it real and believable. But they do it in such a way that makes it understandable. Like if it's confusing, it's your fault as the content creator. You have to find a way. And this show does such a brilliant job of explaining these concepts in such a way that even outsiders can get the gist of it.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”I think it all starts with the core of knowing your market, living in market. [Mike Judge] nails the little slice of the world that he’s trying to satirize so, so well. And I think with satire especially, you can only do it well when you are the subject you're satirizing. Like, someone from the outside trying to make fun of a group that they're not part of, it's going to come off as offensive. They're going to get some things wrong. But when you're able to make fun of the little cluster of the world that you live in yourself, you're going to get it so much more right. And it's going to be so much funnier. And at the same time, the redeeming qualities are captured.”</p><p>*”For me, living in market is so crucial and the best way to live in market Is with a forcing function of daily creation. Because I know that's the only way I'm going to be close enough to the market and what's happening. If I have to come up with content every single day to put in this newsletter, I've got to figure out, ‘Where are the watering holes. What are people talking about? What are the conversations?’ And then I'm going to have to do near bound marketing, which means bringing other voices in, reaching the market through the voices they already trust.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Reveal CMO Isaac Morehouse</p><p>[4:54] Behind the Scenes of Silicon Valley: Creation and Comedy</p><p>[20:58] Content Marketing Insights: Humor, Realness, and the Hero's Journey</p><p>[31:05] The Power of Storytelling in Marketing</p><p>[32:14] Embracing the Hero's Journey in Business</p><p>[32:54] Lessons from Silicon Valley: Making Complex Concepts Accessible</p><p>[37:33] The Importance of Trust and Expertise in Content Creation</p><p>[48:21] Building Nearbound: A New Approach to Partnerships</p><p>[51:56] Executing a Community and Content Vision</p><p>[56:21] Final Thoughts on Trust and Influence in Marketing</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/isaacmorehouse/">Connect with Isaac on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.reveal.co/">Learn more about Reveal</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>There’s no shame in taking one good idea and reusing it. In continuing to improve and tweak it to get more juice for the squeeze. Especially when you’re struggling to come up with something new.</p><p>That’s what J.R.R. Tolkien did in <i>The Lord of the Rings. </i>When asked for “more hobbits” by his publishers, Tolkien had to get crafty. Because he never meant for <i>The Hobbit </i>to have a sequel. </p><p>That’s one of the things we’re talking about today with the Director of Content Marketing at Ahrefs, Ryan Law. With Ryan’s help, we’re chatting about the power of iteration, world-building around your product, and much more.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Ryan Law</strong></p><p>Ryan Law is Director of Content Marketing at Ahrefs. He is a content marketer that’s worked with both startups and enterprise companies, including Google, GoDaddy, Clearbit, ProfitWell and Hotjar.</p><p>Before Ahrefs, Ryan was CMO at the remote content marketing agency Animalz where he generated over 2 million pageviews for the<a href="https://www.animalz.co/blog/author/ryan-law/"> Animalz blog</a>, and ran workshops with companies like Andreessen Horowitz, Writer, Drift, Clearscope, Wynter, and BrightonSEO. He has co-founded a marketing agency, freelanced as a marketing consultant and copywriter, reviewed beers, designed t-shirts and tended bar. He is also the author of<a href="https://ryanlaw.me/books"> two novels</a>, the host of the<a href="https://ashtales.com/podcast"> Ash Tales podcast</a>, an amateur<a href="https://ryanlaw.me/photography"> landscape photographer</a>, and the guitarist for<a href="https://theschrodingereffect.com/"> The Schrödinger Effect</a>.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Lord of the Rings</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Iterate, iterate, iterate.</strong> When you have one good idea, continue to work on it, improve it and iterate on it. Ryan says, “Much like Tolkien, all the best ideas are kind of iterative evolutions of previous and frankly worse ideas as well. And you see that in <i>Lord of the Rings</i>, I think. I love <i>The Hobbit</i> to bits, but in some ways it does feel like the MVP of <i>The Lord of the Rings</i>. You know, there are decisions that he made in that narrative that weren't quite fleshed out and didn't quite make sense that he then changed a little bit in the full series of books.”</li><li><strong>Build a world bigger than your product. </strong>You’re not just trying to make a sale. You’re trying to immerse your audience in your brand and culture. Ryan says, “Some portion of every company's marketing effort should go into the world building that surrounds their brand. You know, creating things that further their beliefs and their ethos and creating opinions and ideas that are not sales assets, but are just plain interesting and share how they think about the world as well.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“Tolkien does it without being really ham fisted with exposition. He doesn't laboriously explain the history of everything and how it all interacts. He teases at it and he hints at it and he reveals it through the dialogue of characters. I think that's deeply rewarding for the reader. You're not spoon fed this stuff, you make the connections yourself, you're brought along the journey and he gives you credit for discovering this huge mythos and history beneath it. And that's a wonderful thing to do, not assume the reader is an idiot, but just write the things you find interesting, let them find the secrets that they're going to find for themselves. It's so deeply rewarding.”</p><p>*“Search demands that you basically write to the consensus. Like there is a set body of information it expects you to share, and it rewards companies that show consensus with other articles. And I think good thought leadership is in some ways the opposite of that. You are challenging truisms, you're talking about the things that no one else is talking about. So the thing I'm trying to do at the moment is, I think a more fruitful framework for thinking about that is talking about information gain. So if you're writing SEO content, you still have to cover the core topic, but you can think, ‘What new stuff can I add to that?’ It's like an additive process. What new subject matter quotes or what new subtopics can we cover? What new research can we do? Cause it's very hard to reconcile those two from my experience.”</p><p>*”Opinions are one of the most important things we're finding in content at the moment. A lot of people are very used to content marketing basically hedging bets. Nobody wants to say something very definitive. Mainly because content marketers, myself included, we're not experts in the things we're writing about. And we are, I think, wary of saying something that's wrong. And that generally leads to not saying anything at all. Being brave and willing to share a defensible opinion, that's something we're trying to do in all of our content, because it's a real differentiator and it's a good way of standing out when every other company is letting people make their own decision. Never make people think. Tell them what you're thinking yourself. ”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Ryan Law, Director of Content Marketing at Ahrefs</p><p>[4:34] Exploring Tolkien's Creative Process and Challenges</p><p>[9:39] Content Creation Insights and B2B Marketing Takeaways</p><p>[17:10] The Power of Storytelling and Building a Rich World</p><p>[23:11] Human Connections and Their Impact on B2B Marketing</p><p>[27:29] Exploring Book Titles and Author Insights</p><p>[28:16] B2B Marketing Insights from Fantasy Literature</p><p>[28:49] Long-Term Content Strategy and Its Impact</p><p>[31:54] The Evolution of Content Marketing in Large Companies</p><p>[33:42] The Importance of Serialized Content in B2B</p><p>[44:12] Exploring the ROI of Creative Content Marketing</p><p>[50:04] Final Thoughts on Marketing and Creativity</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/thinkingslow/">Connect with Ryan on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://ahrefs.com/">Learn more about Ahrefs</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2024 09:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Ian Faison, Ryan Law, Meredith Gooderham, Jess Avellino, Scott Goodrich)</author>
      <link>https://www.caspianstudios.com/remarkable</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There’s no shame in taking one good idea and reusing it. In continuing to improve and tweak it to get more juice for the squeeze. Especially when you’re struggling to come up with something new.</p><p>That’s what J.R.R. Tolkien did in <i>The Lord of the Rings. </i>When asked for “more hobbits” by his publishers, Tolkien had to get crafty. Because he never meant for <i>The Hobbit </i>to have a sequel. </p><p>That’s one of the things we’re talking about today with the Director of Content Marketing at Ahrefs, Ryan Law. With Ryan’s help, we’re chatting about the power of iteration, world-building around your product, and much more.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Ryan Law</strong></p><p>Ryan Law is Director of Content Marketing at Ahrefs. He is a content marketer that’s worked with both startups and enterprise companies, including Google, GoDaddy, Clearbit, ProfitWell and Hotjar.</p><p>Before Ahrefs, Ryan was CMO at the remote content marketing agency Animalz where he generated over 2 million pageviews for the<a href="https://www.animalz.co/blog/author/ryan-law/"> Animalz blog</a>, and ran workshops with companies like Andreessen Horowitz, Writer, Drift, Clearscope, Wynter, and BrightonSEO. He has co-founded a marketing agency, freelanced as a marketing consultant and copywriter, reviewed beers, designed t-shirts and tended bar. He is also the author of<a href="https://ryanlaw.me/books"> two novels</a>, the host of the<a href="https://ashtales.com/podcast"> Ash Tales podcast</a>, an amateur<a href="https://ryanlaw.me/photography"> landscape photographer</a>, and the guitarist for<a href="https://theschrodingereffect.com/"> The Schrödinger Effect</a>.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Lord of the Rings</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Iterate, iterate, iterate.</strong> When you have one good idea, continue to work on it, improve it and iterate on it. Ryan says, “Much like Tolkien, all the best ideas are kind of iterative evolutions of previous and frankly worse ideas as well. And you see that in <i>Lord of the Rings</i>, I think. I love <i>The Hobbit</i> to bits, but in some ways it does feel like the MVP of <i>The Lord of the Rings</i>. You know, there are decisions that he made in that narrative that weren't quite fleshed out and didn't quite make sense that he then changed a little bit in the full series of books.”</li><li><strong>Build a world bigger than your product. </strong>You’re not just trying to make a sale. You’re trying to immerse your audience in your brand and culture. Ryan says, “Some portion of every company's marketing effort should go into the world building that surrounds their brand. You know, creating things that further their beliefs and their ethos and creating opinions and ideas that are not sales assets, but are just plain interesting and share how they think about the world as well.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“Tolkien does it without being really ham fisted with exposition. He doesn't laboriously explain the history of everything and how it all interacts. He teases at it and he hints at it and he reveals it through the dialogue of characters. I think that's deeply rewarding for the reader. You're not spoon fed this stuff, you make the connections yourself, you're brought along the journey and he gives you credit for discovering this huge mythos and history beneath it. And that's a wonderful thing to do, not assume the reader is an idiot, but just write the things you find interesting, let them find the secrets that they're going to find for themselves. It's so deeply rewarding.”</p><p>*“Search demands that you basically write to the consensus. Like there is a set body of information it expects you to share, and it rewards companies that show consensus with other articles. And I think good thought leadership is in some ways the opposite of that. You are challenging truisms, you're talking about the things that no one else is talking about. So the thing I'm trying to do at the moment is, I think a more fruitful framework for thinking about that is talking about information gain. So if you're writing SEO content, you still have to cover the core topic, but you can think, ‘What new stuff can I add to that?’ It's like an additive process. What new subject matter quotes or what new subtopics can we cover? What new research can we do? Cause it's very hard to reconcile those two from my experience.”</p><p>*”Opinions are one of the most important things we're finding in content at the moment. A lot of people are very used to content marketing basically hedging bets. Nobody wants to say something very definitive. Mainly because content marketers, myself included, we're not experts in the things we're writing about. And we are, I think, wary of saying something that's wrong. And that generally leads to not saying anything at all. Being brave and willing to share a defensible opinion, that's something we're trying to do in all of our content, because it's a real differentiator and it's a good way of standing out when every other company is letting people make their own decision. Never make people think. Tell them what you're thinking yourself. ”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Ryan Law, Director of Content Marketing at Ahrefs</p><p>[4:34] Exploring Tolkien's Creative Process and Challenges</p><p>[9:39] Content Creation Insights and B2B Marketing Takeaways</p><p>[17:10] The Power of Storytelling and Building a Rich World</p><p>[23:11] Human Connections and Their Impact on B2B Marketing</p><p>[27:29] Exploring Book Titles and Author Insights</p><p>[28:16] B2B Marketing Insights from Fantasy Literature</p><p>[28:49] Long-Term Content Strategy and Its Impact</p><p>[31:54] The Evolution of Content Marketing in Large Companies</p><p>[33:42] The Importance of Serialized Content in B2B</p><p>[44:12] Exploring the ROI of Creative Content Marketing</p><p>[50:04] Final Thoughts on Marketing and Creativity</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/thinkingslow/">Connect with Ryan on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://ahrefs.com/">Learn more about Ahrefs</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>The fastest growing entertainment industry is not music and it’s not film. It’s video games. And they’re doing a lot of things right when it comes to marketing.</p><p>Ever since arcades opened in the 1970s and Pong became popular, video games drew in a massive audience. So let’s talk about how the industry draws in all the eyes, ears, and thumbs.  </p><p>In this episode, we’re chatting with the VP of Marketing at Hackuity, Skyler Schmanski. Together, we talk about how spending money doesn’t equal making money, and making money doesn’t equal business efficiency, and much more.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Skyler Schmanski</strong></p><p>Skyler Schmanski is the VP of Marketing at Hackuity, formerly Head of the Marketing Innovation Lab at Tenable, and – prior to acquisition – Deputy Chief Marketing Officer at Alsid. He is also the Executive Producer of the award-winning, #1 tech podcast, <i>The Hacker Chronicles</i>, and a LinkedIn Top Cybersecurity Voice with extensive experience in demand gen and growth hacking across hypergrowth tech startups, scaleups, and multinationals. After calling France home for more than eight years, Skyler is now growing EU businesses from Madrid. </p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>the Video Game Industry:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Spending more doesn’t equal making more money. </strong>Making money depends on the efficacy of your campaigns; grabbing your audience's attention, speaking directly to them, and engaging them. And you can do that on a lean budget. Skyler says, ”When you drop 10 years and $500 million on a project, that doesn't always translate to a better project. Sometimes you see these lean teams of 10 to 20 people on $10 million producing something higher quality. And so I think there's that balance to strike there that yes, that unprecedented level of investment is a good thing, but it's not enough to simply grow your teams and grow your budgets in 2024. You need to be doing it smartly. Efficiency is the name of the game, pun absolutely intended, in 2024.”</li><li><strong>Making more money doesn’t equal business efficiency. </strong>Focus first on operating efficiently before investing in a larger team. Skyler says, “Maybe if you are hitting 50% of the same revenue that you'd be hitting with 50 people at five people, well, that’s remarkably more efficient. And in that case, you definitely want the more agile team and direct link to the studio culture we were talking about, where you just see this constant inflow of contractors. When you come back to that minimum viable product from a team structure standpoint, you start to think, ‘Okay, how do we operate as efficiently as possible?’ And then you build from that.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”People would say, ‘Under promise, over deliver.’ I don't wade into that. I would say, ‘Promise and then deliver.’ It's as simple as that. You cut the BS, you cut the fluff. And if what you say works, works, you're going to have a pretty happy client base.”</p><p>*”It's not ‘Do more with less.’ It’s ‘Do less things better.’”</p><p>*”I'm a big proponent of ‘Done is better than perfect.’ So I'm not saying that you need that 4k texture pack and everything is flawless. Especially when you're a startup or a scale up, you're working toward a grander vision. And I think people are very willing to forgive some of the glitchiness if the underlying product is working, if it's delivering results.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Skyler Schmanski, VP of Marketing at Hackuity</p><p>[3:21] The Evolution and Impact of the Video Game Industry</p><p>[8:24] The Shift in Game Development: From Perfection to Patching</p><p>[21:00] Marketing Insights from the Gaming World</p><p>[22:14] Evolving Budgets in Cybersecurity and Gaming</p><p>[22:50] Marketing Agility and Team Efficiency</p><p>[24:06] The Essential: Making Games That Work</p><p>[24:22] Marketing Strategies: From Email to Engagement</p><p>[25:52] Under Promise, Over Deliver: A Marketing Mantra</p><p>[29:00] The Power of Authenticity in Product Development</p><p>[30:13] Innovative Content Strategies in Cybersecurity</p><p>[32:07] Leveraging Thought Leadership for Brand Growth</p><p>[34:42] Future Marketing Strategies and Cross-Media Impact</p><p>[36:40] Closing Thoughts on Creativity and Storytelling</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/skylerschmanski/">Connect with Skyler on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.hackuity.io/">Learn more about Hackuity</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fastest growing entertainment industry is not music and it’s not film. It’s video games. And they’re doing a lot of things right when it comes to marketing.</p><p>Ever since arcades opened in the 1970s and Pong became popular, video games drew in a massive audience. So let’s talk about how the industry draws in all the eyes, ears, and thumbs.  </p><p>In this episode, we’re chatting with the VP of Marketing at Hackuity, Skyler Schmanski. Together, we talk about how spending money doesn’t equal making money, and making money doesn’t equal business efficiency, and much more.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Skyler Schmanski</strong></p><p>Skyler Schmanski is the VP of Marketing at Hackuity, formerly Head of the Marketing Innovation Lab at Tenable, and – prior to acquisition – Deputy Chief Marketing Officer at Alsid. He is also the Executive Producer of the award-winning, #1 tech podcast, <i>The Hacker Chronicles</i>, and a LinkedIn Top Cybersecurity Voice with extensive experience in demand gen and growth hacking across hypergrowth tech startups, scaleups, and multinationals. After calling France home for more than eight years, Skyler is now growing EU businesses from Madrid. </p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>the Video Game Industry:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Spending more doesn’t equal making more money. </strong>Making money depends on the efficacy of your campaigns; grabbing your audience's attention, speaking directly to them, and engaging them. And you can do that on a lean budget. Skyler says, ”When you drop 10 years and $500 million on a project, that doesn't always translate to a better project. Sometimes you see these lean teams of 10 to 20 people on $10 million producing something higher quality. And so I think there's that balance to strike there that yes, that unprecedented level of investment is a good thing, but it's not enough to simply grow your teams and grow your budgets in 2024. You need to be doing it smartly. Efficiency is the name of the game, pun absolutely intended, in 2024.”</li><li><strong>Making more money doesn’t equal business efficiency. </strong>Focus first on operating efficiently before investing in a larger team. Skyler says, “Maybe if you are hitting 50% of the same revenue that you'd be hitting with 50 people at five people, well, that’s remarkably more efficient. And in that case, you definitely want the more agile team and direct link to the studio culture we were talking about, where you just see this constant inflow of contractors. When you come back to that minimum viable product from a team structure standpoint, you start to think, ‘Okay, how do we operate as efficiently as possible?’ And then you build from that.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”People would say, ‘Under promise, over deliver.’ I don't wade into that. I would say, ‘Promise and then deliver.’ It's as simple as that. You cut the BS, you cut the fluff. And if what you say works, works, you're going to have a pretty happy client base.”</p><p>*”It's not ‘Do more with less.’ It’s ‘Do less things better.’”</p><p>*”I'm a big proponent of ‘Done is better than perfect.’ So I'm not saying that you need that 4k texture pack and everything is flawless. Especially when you're a startup or a scale up, you're working toward a grander vision. And I think people are very willing to forgive some of the glitchiness if the underlying product is working, if it's delivering results.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Skyler Schmanski, VP of Marketing at Hackuity</p><p>[3:21] The Evolution and Impact of the Video Game Industry</p><p>[8:24] The Shift in Game Development: From Perfection to Patching</p><p>[21:00] Marketing Insights from the Gaming World</p><p>[22:14] Evolving Budgets in Cybersecurity and Gaming</p><p>[22:50] Marketing Agility and Team Efficiency</p><p>[24:06] The Essential: Making Games That Work</p><p>[24:22] Marketing Strategies: From Email to Engagement</p><p>[25:52] Under Promise, Over Deliver: A Marketing Mantra</p><p>[29:00] The Power of Authenticity in Product Development</p><p>[30:13] Innovative Content Strategies in Cybersecurity</p><p>[32:07] Leveraging Thought Leadership for Brand Growth</p><p>[34:42] Future Marketing Strategies and Cross-Media Impact</p><p>[36:40] Closing Thoughts on Creativity and Storytelling</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/skylerschmanski/">Connect with Skyler on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.hackuity.io/">Learn more about Hackuity</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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Ever since arcades opened in the 1970s and Pong became popular, video games drew in a massive audience. So let’s talk about how the industry draws in all the eyes, ears, and thumbs.  
 
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In the early 2000s, showrunners Carter Bays and Craig Thomas were pitching ideas for sitcoms to CBS. And on only their second pitch, they struck gold. Why?</p><p>Bays said, “It’s like the whole idea of ‘Write what you know.’ If you’re going to pitch someone and say, ‘Give me millions of dollars to write 100 or 200 episodes, you better have material. … Mine your life.”</p><p>In this episode, we’re taking a look at the result: their Emmy nominated show, <i>How I Met Your Mother.</i> And with the help of our guest, Director of Content Marketing at AssemblyAI, Kelly Moon, we’re talking about marketing lessons from the show, including standing out, knowing your end goal, showing social proof that others trust you, and being the thing people want to come back to.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Kelly Moon</strong></p><p>Kelly Moon is Director of Content Marketing at AssemblyAI. There, she builds and leads a team of content marketers who are focused primarily on increasing web traffic, and boosting signups and talk-to-sales hand-raisers. She serves as a key member of AssemblyAI's senior leadership team, driving the organization's content marketing strategy, and rolling up her sleeves to write copy and direct content across AssemblyAI’s website, social, email, customer stories/videos, and more. She also analyzes and monitors content effectiveness and holds each piece to the highest standard, and builds an internal and external content production team and develops a comprehensive content calendar designed to boost awareness, traffic, engagement, and conversions. Prior to joining Assembly AI in August 2023, Kelly served as Head of Content at in-app communications API platform, SendBird. She has also worked at Twilio as Director of Content Marketing & Organic Growth. </p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> How I Met Your Mother</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Stand out. </strong>Be refreshingly unique for your audience. Kelly says, “So many B2B companies struggle with standing out. In order to be memorable, we have to be different. Be different in our voice, tone and in our philosophy. Don't regurgitate what similar businesses are doing. But I think a lot of businesses struggle with actually executing on this. And they can do that by taking a stance on an issue, voicing their perspective on a hot topic, highlighting their in-house experts, and doing it with a sense of humor and lightness. And I think that's where <i>How I Met Your Mother </i>really nailed it. Because they would cover complex or emotional topics, but then there was always some levity toward the end to really balance things out.”</li><li><strong>Know your end goal.</strong> And work tirelessly to make that vision come to life. Kelly says, “When I think about content, I think about not creating siloed content and knocking one tactic out at a time, which is a problem I've seen in a lot of organizations. Instead, look at the entire journey and the story end to end in the same way that <i>How I Met Your Mother</i> producers knew what the end was going to be and all the episodes led up to that. So when it comes to content and just marketing in general, look at the entire journey end to end from a user's perspective and then figure out how each touchpoint connects to deliver an amazing experience.”</li><li><strong>Show social proof that others trust you. </strong>It helps build people’s confidence in your brand. Kelly says, “Show the world that others have decided that you're worth their time. And then after they've converted and decided to invest in you, how are you supporting them? And how are you giving them opportunities to provide feedback and respond to how things can be better?”</li><li><strong>Be the thing people always want to come back to.</strong> Prove your value beyond your product. Kelly says, “In the world of content marketing, it's not enough to just be about one topic. Go deeper and look at the related topics that people are interested in learning more about. As an example, say somebody wants to become a baker. They have ingredients at home to bake cupcakes, so they do some research on how to bake a cupcake, right? But it's not enough to just produce content or assets that just talk about how to bake a cupcake. You have to also talk about what types of cupcakes you can bake, what tools you should consider investing in versus not investing in, tips on keeping the cupcakes fresh… There are multiple pieces of content you can create to offer this complete package and resource of information for somebody.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”I always challenge writers to think about what their angle is. I'll use an Assembly AI example. It's not enough to just be like, ‘What is a good speech to text model?’ You have to make sure that the piece of content is really layered and it's comprehensive. How can we make a piece of content really comprehensive? Because somebody that's thinking about a speech-to-text model is likely thinking about a bunch of other questions after that. And you have to make sure that you're not only considering all of those things, but that you then cover it in a way that's unique and there's some kind of a hook. And it has to have takeaways. What can they learn from it? What can they take with them?” - Kelly Moon</p><p>*”My content strategy is showing up where people are and having a vested interest in what matters to them. And then delivering really useful information that people are actively looking for from the start of their journey until the end. We're building a foundation of trust with people. They’re going to remember us as a no-nonsense helper and hopefully leader. And then when they are ready to build with us, they're going to remember us because we were the ones who were there for them while other people were giving them a sales pitch.” - Kelly Moon</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Kelly Moon, Director of Content Marketing at AssemblyAI</p><p>[2:02] Exploring Assembly AI with Kelly Moon: The Power of Speech AI Models</p><p>[4:12] The Genesis of <i>How I Met Your Mother</i>: From Concept to Cult Classic</p><p>[14:56] Marketing Lessons from <i>How I Met Your Mother</i>: Standing Out and Storytelling</p><p>[26:26] Diving Deep into Character Auditions and Acting Choices</p><p>[27:59] Celebrating Iconic Actors and Memorable Performances</p><p>[29:51] Navigating Complex Relationships and Character Arcs</p><p>[34:15] The Art of Crafting Catchphrases and Memorable Moments</p><p>[38:19] Exploring Content Strategy with Assembly AI</p><p>[45:30] Harnessing the Power of Speech AI for Business Innovation</p><p>[48:15] Parting Wisdom for Content Creators and Marketers</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.hulu.com/series/bc68ac79-3ace-4427-9ec0-5ee6f314d194">Watch <i>How I Met Your Mother</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-moon-mba-ms/">Connect with Kelly on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.assemblyai.com/">Learn more about AssemblyAI</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the early 2000s, showrunners Carter Bays and Craig Thomas were pitching ideas for sitcoms to CBS. And on only their second pitch, they struck gold. Why?</p><p>Bays said, “It’s like the whole idea of ‘Write what you know.’ If you’re going to pitch someone and say, ‘Give me millions of dollars to write 100 or 200 episodes, you better have material. … Mine your life.”</p><p>In this episode, we’re taking a look at the result: their Emmy nominated show, <i>How I Met Your Mother.</i> And with the help of our guest, Director of Content Marketing at AssemblyAI, Kelly Moon, we’re talking about marketing lessons from the show, including standing out, knowing your end goal, showing social proof that others trust you, and being the thing people want to come back to.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Kelly Moon</strong></p><p>Kelly Moon is Director of Content Marketing at AssemblyAI. There, she builds and leads a team of content marketers who are focused primarily on increasing web traffic, and boosting signups and talk-to-sales hand-raisers. She serves as a key member of AssemblyAI's senior leadership team, driving the organization's content marketing strategy, and rolling up her sleeves to write copy and direct content across AssemblyAI’s website, social, email, customer stories/videos, and more. She also analyzes and monitors content effectiveness and holds each piece to the highest standard, and builds an internal and external content production team and develops a comprehensive content calendar designed to boost awareness, traffic, engagement, and conversions. Prior to joining Assembly AI in August 2023, Kelly served as Head of Content at in-app communications API platform, SendBird. She has also worked at Twilio as Director of Content Marketing & Organic Growth. </p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> How I Met Your Mother</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Stand out. </strong>Be refreshingly unique for your audience. Kelly says, “So many B2B companies struggle with standing out. In order to be memorable, we have to be different. Be different in our voice, tone and in our philosophy. Don't regurgitate what similar businesses are doing. But I think a lot of businesses struggle with actually executing on this. And they can do that by taking a stance on an issue, voicing their perspective on a hot topic, highlighting their in-house experts, and doing it with a sense of humor and lightness. And I think that's where <i>How I Met Your Mother </i>really nailed it. Because they would cover complex or emotional topics, but then there was always some levity toward the end to really balance things out.”</li><li><strong>Know your end goal.</strong> And work tirelessly to make that vision come to life. Kelly says, “When I think about content, I think about not creating siloed content and knocking one tactic out at a time, which is a problem I've seen in a lot of organizations. Instead, look at the entire journey and the story end to end in the same way that <i>How I Met Your Mother</i> producers knew what the end was going to be and all the episodes led up to that. So when it comes to content and just marketing in general, look at the entire journey end to end from a user's perspective and then figure out how each touchpoint connects to deliver an amazing experience.”</li><li><strong>Show social proof that others trust you. </strong>It helps build people’s confidence in your brand. Kelly says, “Show the world that others have decided that you're worth their time. And then after they've converted and decided to invest in you, how are you supporting them? And how are you giving them opportunities to provide feedback and respond to how things can be better?”</li><li><strong>Be the thing people always want to come back to.</strong> Prove your value beyond your product. Kelly says, “In the world of content marketing, it's not enough to just be about one topic. Go deeper and look at the related topics that people are interested in learning more about. As an example, say somebody wants to become a baker. They have ingredients at home to bake cupcakes, so they do some research on how to bake a cupcake, right? But it's not enough to just produce content or assets that just talk about how to bake a cupcake. You have to also talk about what types of cupcakes you can bake, what tools you should consider investing in versus not investing in, tips on keeping the cupcakes fresh… There are multiple pieces of content you can create to offer this complete package and resource of information for somebody.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”I always challenge writers to think about what their angle is. I'll use an Assembly AI example. It's not enough to just be like, ‘What is a good speech to text model?’ You have to make sure that the piece of content is really layered and it's comprehensive. How can we make a piece of content really comprehensive? Because somebody that's thinking about a speech-to-text model is likely thinking about a bunch of other questions after that. And you have to make sure that you're not only considering all of those things, but that you then cover it in a way that's unique and there's some kind of a hook. And it has to have takeaways. What can they learn from it? What can they take with them?” - Kelly Moon</p><p>*”My content strategy is showing up where people are and having a vested interest in what matters to them. And then delivering really useful information that people are actively looking for from the start of their journey until the end. We're building a foundation of trust with people. They’re going to remember us as a no-nonsense helper and hopefully leader. And then when they are ready to build with us, they're going to remember us because we were the ones who were there for them while other people were giving them a sales pitch.” - Kelly Moon</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Kelly Moon, Director of Content Marketing at AssemblyAI</p><p>[2:02] Exploring Assembly AI with Kelly Moon: The Power of Speech AI Models</p><p>[4:12] The Genesis of <i>How I Met Your Mother</i>: From Concept to Cult Classic</p><p>[14:56] Marketing Lessons from <i>How I Met Your Mother</i>: Standing Out and Storytelling</p><p>[26:26] Diving Deep into Character Auditions and Acting Choices</p><p>[27:59] Celebrating Iconic Actors and Memorable Performances</p><p>[29:51] Navigating Complex Relationships and Character Arcs</p><p>[34:15] The Art of Crafting Catchphrases and Memorable Moments</p><p>[38:19] Exploring Content Strategy with Assembly AI</p><p>[45:30] Harnessing the Power of Speech AI for Business Innovation</p><p>[48:15] Parting Wisdom for Content Creators and Marketers</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.hulu.com/series/bc68ac79-3ace-4427-9ec0-5ee6f314d194">Watch <i>How I Met Your Mother</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-moon-mba-ms/">Connect with Kelly on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.assemblyai.com/">Learn more about AssemblyAI</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>In the early 2000s, showrunners Carter Bays and Craig Thomas were pitching ideas for sitcoms to CBS. And on only their second pitch, they struck gold. Why?

Bays said, “It’s like the whole idea of ‘Write what you know.’ If you’re going to pitch someone and say, ‘Give me millions of dollars to write 100 or 200 episodes, you better have material. … Mine your life.”

In this episode, we’re taking a look at the result: their Emmy nominated show, How I Met Your Mother. And with the help of our guest, Director of Content Marketing at AssemblyAI, Kelly Moon, we’re talking about marketing lessons from the show, including standing out, knowing your end goal, showing social proof that others trust you, and being the thing people want to come back to.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>In the early 2000s, showrunners Carter Bays and Craig Thomas were pitching ideas for sitcoms to CBS. And on only their second pitch, they struck gold. Why?

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In this episode, we’re taking a look at the result: their Emmy nominated show, How I Met Your Mother. And with the help of our guest, Director of Content Marketing at AssemblyAI, Kelly Moon, we’re talking about marketing lessons from the show, including standing out, knowing your end goal, showing social proof that others trust you, and being the thing people want to come back to.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p><i>Vanderpump Rules</i> is proof that a spinoff can not only be hugely successful, but be its own Sexy Unique Content. Not only did the show capitalize on the success of <i>Real Housewives of Beverly Hills</i>, but on the star power of Lisa Vanderpump.</p><p>Those are a few of the things we’re talking about today with the Senior Content & Communications Manager at UserGems, Amber Rhodes. </p><p>Together, we explore the marketing lessons of <i>Vanderpump Rules</i>, including capitalizing on the moment, using character-driven storytelling, and much more. </p><p><strong>About our guest, Amber Rhodes</strong></p><p>Amber Rhodes is Senior Content & Communications Manager at UserGems. She joined the company in December 2021 as a Content Marketing Specialist. She is also the host of the podcast <i>Everything’s Coming Up Marketing</i>. Amber previously served as a Content Strategist at EmberTribe and a Communications Specialist at Galactic Fed. Outside of work, she likes to watch reality TV, read and hang out with her beagle.  </p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Vanderpump Rules</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Capitalize on the moment.</strong> Take advantage of what’s working or effective and make the most of it. Lean into that strategy or tactic and see where it takes you. Ian says, “A lot of marketers try to capitalize on the moment, when they're trend-jacking or doing things like that. And you see a lot of great marketers creating moments, too.” <i>Vanderpump Rules</i> is a great example of capitalizing on the moment, because Bravo was seeing the success of <i>Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, </i>and combined that with the screen time and star power of Lisa Vanderpump to create a massive hit they knew would work, because it had already been proven popular on <i>Real Housewives.</i></li><li><strong>If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. </strong>If you are already seeing results with your marketing, keep it going. Amber says that for your audience, “Sometimes people just like what's comfortable. They like the consistency, the repetition, the comfort. They like coming back to the same things. You don't need to always push it.” This applies to <i>Vanderpump Rules </i>too. Amber says, “The original cast is pretty much what stuck around. There was a time where they tried to add in new people and the audience was not having it. There was something about the lightning in the bottle of the original cast, and when they tried to add in other people and manufacture drama in that way, it just didn’t work.”</li><li><strong>Use character-driven storytelling.</strong> Focus on the people, their personal stories, their drama. Ian says, “The character is the key thing here. And in the B2B world, we are trying to create characters out of real people, out of the CIO or the VP of data. And we do an absolute crap job of creating the character a lot of times. They’re not quirky, they’re not weird. They aren’t mean or spiteful. They don't do all the things that make people human. And I think if we stop telling stories with rose-colored glasses, then perhaps we would find more authentic storytelling and more believable storytelling. Tell stories that have thorns, not just roses.” <i>Vanderpump Rules</i> is compelling because it explores a range of human emotion, not just the positive. </li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”I'm trying to find the feedback loop between social and content. How do we use content to distribute on social? How do we use social to listen to conversations that should then be content that we are creating? And create that wheel so that we're always having fresh conversations about the topics that we need to educate our audience on.”</p><p>*”Original research is going to be a big differentiator for content teams. We'll ask the questions the same way that you do. No one else will be able to put your own spin on that data like you do.”</p><p>*”I think that probably the best thing that you could do is ask for help early and often. You'll want to prove yourself [as a new content marketer], but there's only so much that you can actually know. So I think asking a lot of questions early and often, and getting used to setting expectations only helps everyone.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Amber Rhodes, Director of Content & Communications at UserGems</p><p>[2:37] Exploring UserGems: Innovations in B2B Marketing</p><p>[4:11] The Vanderpump Phenomenon: Lessons for Marketers</p><p>[10:46] Marketing Mastery: Capitalizing on Moments and Character-Driven Storytelling</p><p>[19:50] Behind the Scenes at UserGems: Content Strategy and Impact</p><p>[31:11] Advice for B2B Marketers</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.aad3b6b0-633f-4ba1-ba4a-ddaafb854504?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch <i>Vanderpump Rules</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/amber-a-rhodes/">Connect with Amber on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.usergems.com/">Learn more about UserGems</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Vanderpump Rules</i> is proof that a spinoff can not only be hugely successful, but be its own Sexy Unique Content. Not only did the show capitalize on the success of <i>Real Housewives of Beverly Hills</i>, but on the star power of Lisa Vanderpump.</p><p>Those are a few of the things we’re talking about today with the Senior Content & Communications Manager at UserGems, Amber Rhodes. </p><p>Together, we explore the marketing lessons of <i>Vanderpump Rules</i>, including capitalizing on the moment, using character-driven storytelling, and much more. </p><p><strong>About our guest, Amber Rhodes</strong></p><p>Amber Rhodes is Senior Content & Communications Manager at UserGems. She joined the company in December 2021 as a Content Marketing Specialist. She is also the host of the podcast <i>Everything’s Coming Up Marketing</i>. Amber previously served as a Content Strategist at EmberTribe and a Communications Specialist at Galactic Fed. Outside of work, she likes to watch reality TV, read and hang out with her beagle.  </p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Vanderpump Rules</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Capitalize on the moment.</strong> Take advantage of what’s working or effective and make the most of it. Lean into that strategy or tactic and see where it takes you. Ian says, “A lot of marketers try to capitalize on the moment, when they're trend-jacking or doing things like that. And you see a lot of great marketers creating moments, too.” <i>Vanderpump Rules</i> is a great example of capitalizing on the moment, because Bravo was seeing the success of <i>Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, </i>and combined that with the screen time and star power of Lisa Vanderpump to create a massive hit they knew would work, because it had already been proven popular on <i>Real Housewives.</i></li><li><strong>If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. </strong>If you are already seeing results with your marketing, keep it going. Amber says that for your audience, “Sometimes people just like what's comfortable. They like the consistency, the repetition, the comfort. They like coming back to the same things. You don't need to always push it.” This applies to <i>Vanderpump Rules </i>too. Amber says, “The original cast is pretty much what stuck around. There was a time where they tried to add in new people and the audience was not having it. There was something about the lightning in the bottle of the original cast, and when they tried to add in other people and manufacture drama in that way, it just didn’t work.”</li><li><strong>Use character-driven storytelling.</strong> Focus on the people, their personal stories, their drama. Ian says, “The character is the key thing here. And in the B2B world, we are trying to create characters out of real people, out of the CIO or the VP of data. And we do an absolute crap job of creating the character a lot of times. They’re not quirky, they’re not weird. They aren’t mean or spiteful. They don't do all the things that make people human. And I think if we stop telling stories with rose-colored glasses, then perhaps we would find more authentic storytelling and more believable storytelling. Tell stories that have thorns, not just roses.” <i>Vanderpump Rules</i> is compelling because it explores a range of human emotion, not just the positive. </li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”I'm trying to find the feedback loop between social and content. How do we use content to distribute on social? How do we use social to listen to conversations that should then be content that we are creating? And create that wheel so that we're always having fresh conversations about the topics that we need to educate our audience on.”</p><p>*”Original research is going to be a big differentiator for content teams. We'll ask the questions the same way that you do. No one else will be able to put your own spin on that data like you do.”</p><p>*”I think that probably the best thing that you could do is ask for help early and often. You'll want to prove yourself [as a new content marketer], but there's only so much that you can actually know. So I think asking a lot of questions early and often, and getting used to setting expectations only helps everyone.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Amber Rhodes, Director of Content & Communications at UserGems</p><p>[2:37] Exploring UserGems: Innovations in B2B Marketing</p><p>[4:11] The Vanderpump Phenomenon: Lessons for Marketers</p><p>[10:46] Marketing Mastery: Capitalizing on Moments and Character-Driven Storytelling</p><p>[19:50] Behind the Scenes at UserGems: Content Strategy and Impact</p><p>[31:11] Advice for B2B Marketers</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.aad3b6b0-633f-4ba1-ba4a-ddaafb854504?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch <i>Vanderpump Rules</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/amber-a-rhodes/">Connect with Amber on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.usergems.com/">Learn more about UserGems</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In a world with lots of content noise, play to the silences. Let your messaging be simple and clear, and even short. </p><p>In this episode, we’re learning from the musician who let there be simplicity and space. Who played his trumpet in a sparse style so that each note was beautiful and carefully chosen. That’s Miles Davis.</p><p>And with our special guest, Ben Lempert, Director of Content & Web at Heap, we’re talking about creating simple messaging, capturing different voices, leaving room for spontaneity, and the importance of feeling in your marketing.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Ben Lempert</strong></p><p>Ben Lempert is Director of Content & Web at Heap. He has been there for over 4 years, having joined in August 2019 as Head of Corporate Marketing. During his time in his current role, Ben has built a Thought Leadership Content Hub to curate all of Heap’s content and facilitate the stages of the buyer's journey, created the Heap Digital Insights Report, which generated thousands of leads and a 50% increase in content downloads, created the Digital Experience Insights Report series, which generated 6000+ downloads and bylines in Forbes and VentureBeat, developed creative initiatives including the Heap Comic Book and the Heap Explainer video series,  grew SEO traffic from 0 to 29,000+ visitors/month, increased social media followers by 100% over three successive years, and grew PR SOV 25% QoQ for nine successive quarters. He has over 10 years of experience in content strategy, brand, comms, creative, editing, and leadership.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Kind of Blue</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Create simple messaging.</strong> Distill your message into plain but pointed language directed at your particular audience. Ben says, “What people respond to in <i>Kind of Blue</i>, and I think what people often respond to best in good content, is a simple, clear, open, direct message. I think a lot of companies get very complex in talking about the nuances of their solution and the technical advantages their product offers. I think it's worth it in the content world for most companies to think about what your fundamental message is, whether that's one sentence or one paragraph or four words. What's the thing that people will respond to that explains what you do and why it matters in a unique way? It's very hard to get to. I don't think many companies do it well. It's very easy to come up with something that's too abstract to be meaningful.”</li><li><strong>Capture different voices. </strong>Feature quotes from both your customers and colleagues in your content. Gather info and input from all of them and work it into your content. You don’t have to operate all alone on a marketing island. Ben says, “Jazz, like content, is a team activity. I think one of the great things about <i>Kind of Blue</i> is that there's room for lots of individual voices. When we think about representing our company through our content, it's worth recognizing that there are plenty of voices across the company. And they all have different ways of expressing what's important. So it's okay to vary the voice and story you're telling, as long as you have a fundamental story that is simple and clear. What's on top of it involves orchestrating these different voices in a way that hits people in different ways and allows for nuance and complexity to be added to your story.”</li><li><strong>Leave room for spontaneity.</strong> Yes, get your work done. But then leave a little time to experiment and play. Ben says, “We are all extraordinarily busy. But sometimes the best marketing comes from carving out time for free form group thinking. Brainstorming, coming up with ideas that are new and off the wall, having that be a prompt.”</li><li><strong>Mood and feeling matter.</strong> Instead of getting into the nitty gritty technical details, focus on how you make the customer feel. Ben says, “<i>Kind of Blue</i> has that impact on you because of the way it sounds. You're not listening to every single note and you're not listening to Coltrane saying, ‘Oh, he played a flat 13 there. Whoa, that's wild!’ It impacted you on a deeper, more emotional level. And we often forget that as content writers, that our audience are not robotic automatons. They're people. And we want to hit their emotions. That's where you reach people.” So ask yourself, “How do I want to make my audience feel?”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”[<i>Kind of Blue]</i> is one of the very few jazz records that most people who are not jazz fans own and listen to actively. And I think there are lots of reasons for that. And I think that gives us a pretty interesting lens for thinking about how content works, given that lots of content is directed towards people who may not be aware of the intricacies of your technical solutions, but still want to be compelled by what you have to say and want to be interested in it.” - Ben Lempert</p><p>*”Miles was famous for having a very sparse style, very much interested in playing space. And for him, he was very actively thinking about how to play the silence and the space between notes as much as he was playing the actual notes. So he was super minimalist, would play one or two notes, but they would be absolutely beautiful and absolutely brilliant and took a sort of courage to play those one or two notes that very few musicians have. It's much easier to play a lot of notes and hope you get something right. It's much harder to have that one pithy statement and let it hang there.” - Ben Lempert</p><p>*”Always strive to create a simple, communicable foundation that ideally everyone in the company can embody. And when the audience receives it, they understand right away. And then you build complexity on top of that.” - Ben Lempert</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Ben Lempert, Director of Content & Web at Heap</p><p>[4:37] Ben Lempert's Journey from Jazz Musician to Director of Content</p><p>[8:47] The Making of <i>Kind of Blu</i>e: A Revolutionary Jazz Album</p><p>[10:20] Miles Davis' Vision and the Birth of Modal Jazz</p><p>[23:59] Kind of Blue's Legacy and Impact on Jazz and Beyond</p><p>[28:24] Exploring the Creative Process and Expectations</p><p>[29:51] The Power of Minimalism in Music and Marketing</p><p>[33:44] Improvisation: Jazz Lessons for Conversational and Creative Skills</p><p>[36:12] Marketing Wisdom from Jazz: Simplicity, Emotion, and Spontaneity</p><p>[48:38] Heap's Content Strategy: Blending Business Goals with Creative Storytelling</p><p>[55:12] Embracing Experimentation and Spontaneity in Content Creation</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/1weenld61qoidwYuZ1GESA?si=bV03hqFnSe2wBBcLC3F8gg">Listen to <i>Kind of Blue</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/benjaminlempert/">Connect with Ben on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.heap.io/">Learn more about Heap</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a world with lots of content noise, play to the silences. Let your messaging be simple and clear, and even short. </p><p>In this episode, we’re learning from the musician who let there be simplicity and space. Who played his trumpet in a sparse style so that each note was beautiful and carefully chosen. That’s Miles Davis.</p><p>And with our special guest, Ben Lempert, Director of Content & Web at Heap, we’re talking about creating simple messaging, capturing different voices, leaving room for spontaneity, and the importance of feeling in your marketing.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Ben Lempert</strong></p><p>Ben Lempert is Director of Content & Web at Heap. He has been there for over 4 years, having joined in August 2019 as Head of Corporate Marketing. During his time in his current role, Ben has built a Thought Leadership Content Hub to curate all of Heap’s content and facilitate the stages of the buyer's journey, created the Heap Digital Insights Report, which generated thousands of leads and a 50% increase in content downloads, created the Digital Experience Insights Report series, which generated 6000+ downloads and bylines in Forbes and VentureBeat, developed creative initiatives including the Heap Comic Book and the Heap Explainer video series,  grew SEO traffic from 0 to 29,000+ visitors/month, increased social media followers by 100% over three successive years, and grew PR SOV 25% QoQ for nine successive quarters. He has over 10 years of experience in content strategy, brand, comms, creative, editing, and leadership.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Kind of Blue</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Create simple messaging.</strong> Distill your message into plain but pointed language directed at your particular audience. Ben says, “What people respond to in <i>Kind of Blue</i>, and I think what people often respond to best in good content, is a simple, clear, open, direct message. I think a lot of companies get very complex in talking about the nuances of their solution and the technical advantages their product offers. I think it's worth it in the content world for most companies to think about what your fundamental message is, whether that's one sentence or one paragraph or four words. What's the thing that people will respond to that explains what you do and why it matters in a unique way? It's very hard to get to. I don't think many companies do it well. It's very easy to come up with something that's too abstract to be meaningful.”</li><li><strong>Capture different voices. </strong>Feature quotes from both your customers and colleagues in your content. Gather info and input from all of them and work it into your content. You don’t have to operate all alone on a marketing island. Ben says, “Jazz, like content, is a team activity. I think one of the great things about <i>Kind of Blue</i> is that there's room for lots of individual voices. When we think about representing our company through our content, it's worth recognizing that there are plenty of voices across the company. And they all have different ways of expressing what's important. So it's okay to vary the voice and story you're telling, as long as you have a fundamental story that is simple and clear. What's on top of it involves orchestrating these different voices in a way that hits people in different ways and allows for nuance and complexity to be added to your story.”</li><li><strong>Leave room for spontaneity.</strong> Yes, get your work done. But then leave a little time to experiment and play. Ben says, “We are all extraordinarily busy. But sometimes the best marketing comes from carving out time for free form group thinking. Brainstorming, coming up with ideas that are new and off the wall, having that be a prompt.”</li><li><strong>Mood and feeling matter.</strong> Instead of getting into the nitty gritty technical details, focus on how you make the customer feel. Ben says, “<i>Kind of Blue</i> has that impact on you because of the way it sounds. You're not listening to every single note and you're not listening to Coltrane saying, ‘Oh, he played a flat 13 there. Whoa, that's wild!’ It impacted you on a deeper, more emotional level. And we often forget that as content writers, that our audience are not robotic automatons. They're people. And we want to hit their emotions. That's where you reach people.” So ask yourself, “How do I want to make my audience feel?”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”[<i>Kind of Blue]</i> is one of the very few jazz records that most people who are not jazz fans own and listen to actively. And I think there are lots of reasons for that. And I think that gives us a pretty interesting lens for thinking about how content works, given that lots of content is directed towards people who may not be aware of the intricacies of your technical solutions, but still want to be compelled by what you have to say and want to be interested in it.” - Ben Lempert</p><p>*”Miles was famous for having a very sparse style, very much interested in playing space. And for him, he was very actively thinking about how to play the silence and the space between notes as much as he was playing the actual notes. So he was super minimalist, would play one or two notes, but they would be absolutely beautiful and absolutely brilliant and took a sort of courage to play those one or two notes that very few musicians have. It's much easier to play a lot of notes and hope you get something right. It's much harder to have that one pithy statement and let it hang there.” - Ben Lempert</p><p>*”Always strive to create a simple, communicable foundation that ideally everyone in the company can embody. And when the audience receives it, they understand right away. And then you build complexity on top of that.” - Ben Lempert</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Ben Lempert, Director of Content & Web at Heap</p><p>[4:37] Ben Lempert's Journey from Jazz Musician to Director of Content</p><p>[8:47] The Making of <i>Kind of Blu</i>e: A Revolutionary Jazz Album</p><p>[10:20] Miles Davis' Vision and the Birth of Modal Jazz</p><p>[23:59] Kind of Blue's Legacy and Impact on Jazz and Beyond</p><p>[28:24] Exploring the Creative Process and Expectations</p><p>[29:51] The Power of Minimalism in Music and Marketing</p><p>[33:44] Improvisation: Jazz Lessons for Conversational and Creative Skills</p><p>[36:12] Marketing Wisdom from Jazz: Simplicity, Emotion, and Spontaneity</p><p>[48:38] Heap's Content Strategy: Blending Business Goals with Creative Storytelling</p><p>[55:12] Embracing Experimentation and Spontaneity in Content Creation</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/1weenld61qoidwYuZ1GESA?si=bV03hqFnSe2wBBcLC3F8gg">Listen to <i>Kind of Blue</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/benjaminlempert/">Connect with Ben on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.heap.io/">Learn more about Heap</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>There’s a lot of great content out there. So why not find inspiration there? Sample it, remix it and make it your own.</p><p>In this episode, we’re turning to one of the greats when it comes to sampling: the late rapper and producer J Dilla. </p><p>Together with the help of our guest, Head of Marketing at Crowdcube, John Hills, we’re talking about borrowing from content that’s already out there, building your content IP, and never losing your human touch.</p><p><strong>About our guest, John Hills</strong></p><p>John Hills is Head of Marketing at Crowdcube, Europe’s leading equity crowdfunding platform. To date, they've helped raise over £1.4 billion for over 1,300 businesses and built up a community of over 1.7 million members. He joined Crowdcube in April of 2022. Prior to his current role, John led the marketing team at FrontFundr, Canada's leading equity crowdfunding platform. There, his team helped 70+ companies raise more than $90M and built up an investor community of over 32,000 people. He has also previously held marketing roles at Duuers and Founder Institute. Outside of work, he is a bass player, marathon runner and a record collector.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Donuts</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Sample, sample, sample. </strong>Just like J Dilla samples from Dionne Warwick, The Temptations, Run-DMC and more on <i>Donuts</i>, you can borrow ideas from content that’s already out there too. You don’t have to come up with something totally original every time. John says, “When you're doing content marketing, the bar is incredibly high. You can feel quite overwhelmed. Like, I don't have the budget that Apple has, neither do I have the brand expertise or the people to do it. That doesn't mean that I can't have an impact. I can still be scrappy. I can still look at what's working and create things that are memorable and valuable for people. And so I think that you can just look at what's already out there and how you fit into that rather than feeling you have to create something new. You can take what's there, see what appeals to people and see how you can make that memorable and impactful as well.”</li><li><strong>Build your content IP.</strong> John says, “You could create a load of content and just farm it out. [But instead] why don't you find a problem that your customer really cares about, name it so you're acknowledging it, you're identifying it, and then exist only to solve that problem. You become known - you become synonymous - with that content IP.” For J Dilla, his calling card - what he was known for - was a horn sampled from Isaac Hayes. And John says, “​​I kind of think of that as his content IP. You know it's him. It's giving you what you want, which is a dopamine hit of great music. He's being there for you. And I think that's what we have to do as marketers too, right? Like basically find your Isaac Hayes horn and blast it where appropriate.”</li><li><strong>AI’s a useful tool, but never lose your human touch. </strong>John says “that's really what's going to land with people and what's going to resonate.” It’s like how J Dilla sampled from live recordings, which John points out have slight imperfections and variations from a studio recording. He says live recordings catch your ear, engage you more and are more memorable.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Sampling is interesting because you're channeling your interests. You're like part curator, part creator. And like that is truly what a marketer is. It's just a perfect metaphor for modern marketing.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”If you want to engage and build an audience, you want to be known as someone that's bringing them the good stuff. You filter through. You know which places to look, which is what [J Dilla's] doing on the album. Like, ‘I know this really particular little piece of a song which I dug out from a record shop and turned into something that sounds really cool for you.’ In the same way we, as marketers, have an attention economy, right? So it's kind of ‘Why should you have to pay attention to me rather than someone else?’ I've done the hard yards and I'm bringing you the good stuff, packaged neatly in a newsletter or a podcast or on a social feed.” - John Hills</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet John Hills, Head of Marketing at Crowdcube</p><p>[2:44] Exploring the Genius of J Dilla and <i>Donuts</i></p><p>[10:39] Sampling in Music and Marketing: Creativity Unleashed</p><p>[22:13] AI in Marketing: Keeping the Human Touch Alive</p><p>[26:30] Crafting a Content Strategy at Crowdcube</p><p>[27:42] Content Strategy: Educating Companies on Equity Crowdfunding</p><p>[28:19] The Art of Content Distribution and Engagement</p><p>[29:04] Crafting High-Quality, Educational Content</p><p>[31:18] Innovative Campaigns: From Invoicing Templates to Cricket Burgers</p><p>[40:25] Leveraging LinkedIn for Demand Generation</p><p>[44:26] Broadening Horizons: Beyond Marketing Books</p><p>[46:53] Recommendations</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.e0a9f7c6-3ac6-5112-b12c-0eae98527cf6?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch Parks and Recreation</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifermlacey/">Connect with Jen on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.intellimize.com/">Learn more about Intellimize</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 30 Apr 2024 17:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Ian Faison, John Hills, Meredith Gooderham, Scott Goodrich, Jess Avellino)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There’s a lot of great content out there. So why not find inspiration there? Sample it, remix it and make it your own.</p><p>In this episode, we’re turning to one of the greats when it comes to sampling: the late rapper and producer J Dilla. </p><p>Together with the help of our guest, Head of Marketing at Crowdcube, John Hills, we’re talking about borrowing from content that’s already out there, building your content IP, and never losing your human touch.</p><p><strong>About our guest, John Hills</strong></p><p>John Hills is Head of Marketing at Crowdcube, Europe’s leading equity crowdfunding platform. To date, they've helped raise over £1.4 billion for over 1,300 businesses and built up a community of over 1.7 million members. He joined Crowdcube in April of 2022. Prior to his current role, John led the marketing team at FrontFundr, Canada's leading equity crowdfunding platform. There, his team helped 70+ companies raise more than $90M and built up an investor community of over 32,000 people. He has also previously held marketing roles at Duuers and Founder Institute. Outside of work, he is a bass player, marathon runner and a record collector.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Donuts</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Sample, sample, sample. </strong>Just like J Dilla samples from Dionne Warwick, The Temptations, Run-DMC and more on <i>Donuts</i>, you can borrow ideas from content that’s already out there too. You don’t have to come up with something totally original every time. John says, “When you're doing content marketing, the bar is incredibly high. You can feel quite overwhelmed. Like, I don't have the budget that Apple has, neither do I have the brand expertise or the people to do it. That doesn't mean that I can't have an impact. I can still be scrappy. I can still look at what's working and create things that are memorable and valuable for people. And so I think that you can just look at what's already out there and how you fit into that rather than feeling you have to create something new. You can take what's there, see what appeals to people and see how you can make that memorable and impactful as well.”</li><li><strong>Build your content IP.</strong> John says, “You could create a load of content and just farm it out. [But instead] why don't you find a problem that your customer really cares about, name it so you're acknowledging it, you're identifying it, and then exist only to solve that problem. You become known - you become synonymous - with that content IP.” For J Dilla, his calling card - what he was known for - was a horn sampled from Isaac Hayes. And John says, “​​I kind of think of that as his content IP. You know it's him. It's giving you what you want, which is a dopamine hit of great music. He's being there for you. And I think that's what we have to do as marketers too, right? Like basically find your Isaac Hayes horn and blast it where appropriate.”</li><li><strong>AI’s a useful tool, but never lose your human touch. </strong>John says “that's really what's going to land with people and what's going to resonate.” It’s like how J Dilla sampled from live recordings, which John points out have slight imperfections and variations from a studio recording. He says live recordings catch your ear, engage you more and are more memorable.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Sampling is interesting because you're channeling your interests. You're like part curator, part creator. And like that is truly what a marketer is. It's just a perfect metaphor for modern marketing.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”If you want to engage and build an audience, you want to be known as someone that's bringing them the good stuff. You filter through. You know which places to look, which is what [J Dilla's] doing on the album. Like, ‘I know this really particular little piece of a song which I dug out from a record shop and turned into something that sounds really cool for you.’ In the same way we, as marketers, have an attention economy, right? So it's kind of ‘Why should you have to pay attention to me rather than someone else?’ I've done the hard yards and I'm bringing you the good stuff, packaged neatly in a newsletter or a podcast or on a social feed.” - John Hills</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet John Hills, Head of Marketing at Crowdcube</p><p>[2:44] Exploring the Genius of J Dilla and <i>Donuts</i></p><p>[10:39] Sampling in Music and Marketing: Creativity Unleashed</p><p>[22:13] AI in Marketing: Keeping the Human Touch Alive</p><p>[26:30] Crafting a Content Strategy at Crowdcube</p><p>[27:42] Content Strategy: Educating Companies on Equity Crowdfunding</p><p>[28:19] The Art of Content Distribution and Engagement</p><p>[29:04] Crafting High-Quality, Educational Content</p><p>[31:18] Innovative Campaigns: From Invoicing Templates to Cricket Burgers</p><p>[40:25] Leveraging LinkedIn for Demand Generation</p><p>[44:26] Broadening Horizons: Beyond Marketing Books</p><p>[46:53] Recommendations</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.e0a9f7c6-3ac6-5112-b12c-0eae98527cf6?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch Parks and Recreation</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifermlacey/">Connect with Jen on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.intellimize.com/">Learn more about Intellimize</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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In this episode, we’re turning to one of the greats when it comes to sampling: the late rapper and producer J Dilla. 

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      <description><![CDATA[<p>We knew this day would come. The day where we finally talk about the one tech company all others look up to: Apple. </p><p>The truth is that the behemoth has endured ups and downs to become one of the greatest brands of all time, and all under the leadership of Steve Jobs. </p><p>So in this episode, we’re taking marketing lessons from Steve Jobs based on his biography by Walter Isaacson with the help of our guest, Jotform CMO Steve Hartert. </p><p>Together, we talk about being insatiably curious about your customers, daring to fail, and exercising your creativity. </p><p><strong>About our guest, Steve Hartert</strong></p><p>Steve Hartert is the chief marketing officer at Jotform. He’s had more than 30 years of B2B and B2C marketing management experience. Prior to Jotform, he was the president of Hartert & Associates, a marketing consultancy that worked with B2B and B2C companies. Steve has been actively involved in marketing internet companies since 1995. He holds a bachelor’s degree from Cal Poly Pomona and an MBA from Cal State San Bernardino.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Steve Jobs</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Be insatiably curious about your customers.</strong> Use their actions and feedback to inform your marketing. Appeal to what drives them and hook them emotionally. Steve says, “Look at how people use your products, your services… look how people use them. Really have a good, solid understanding of that customer's wants and needs. And sometimes they don't know what they want or need until you show them. </li><li><strong>Dare to fail. </strong>Experiment and strive for greatness despite the possibility of missing the mark. Steve says, “Business people and businesses in general pull back the reins because they're afraid of failure for some reason. But failure teaches you how to succeed.”</li><li><strong>Exercise your creativity.</strong> It takes practice stepping outside the bounds of traditional B2B marketing. But creative content makes you stand out from your competitors. Steve says, “How do you get the message out to people to want to now partake in your product or service? You have to be creative to get their attention and keep that attention and then make that product sell and continue to grow.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”He just did what he thought needed to be done to create the right. work. And like that message to me is something that we so rarely do in marketing. Which is like, ‘What is the amount of work that needs to happen to create something great?’ And so often we say, ‘What is good enough?’ And you have to do that, right? You have to do things that are good enough sometimes. But if you want to make something great, you have to do a great amount of work.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”You need to sit there and look at the problem you're trying to solve from multiple angles. A lot of times what I have seen in marketing and in other disciplines of business is people sometimes get surrounded by ‘yes’ people. They don't want to hear a bad thing. ‘Oh, we're weak in this area,’ or ‘We're not good at that.’ You need to hear it. Because if you don't address the full 360 around your product or service, to be able to defend it when something goes wrong, you're just walking yourself into a trap. And that's just a big blind spot that a lot of people have.” - Steve Hartert</p><p>*”[Apple] had about a hundred ideas on this whiteboard. ‘These are great.’ And then [Steve Jobs] said, ‘Okay, pick four of them because that's all we can do.’ So they ended up having to focus on what products they were going to be working on for the next two or three years. And now you've got such clarity in the focus that you can't make a mistake on what you're trying to do. And that's very important. When companies lose that [focus], they get distracted by shiny things, by the latest trend or something that they could pop out there so they can get the stock price up for the next quarter. And so they just kind of bob and weave rather than pushing through on a forward path and saying, ‘We're going to do this and it's going to be tough to get there, but we need to do it.’” - Steve Hartert</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Steve Harter, CMO at Jotform</p><p>[3:14] Exploring the Genius of Steve Jobs Through Isaacson's Biography</p><p>[5:36] The Art of Perfection: Lessons from Steve Jobs</p><p>[9:45] Marketing Insights and the Pursuit of Excellence</p><p>[15:07] Crafting Content with Precision: A Marketing Deep Dive</p><p>[23:07] Strategic Focus and Innovation: The Apple Way</p><p>[26:22] Unlocking Marketing Success: The Power of Focus</p><p>[28:43] Steve Jobs' Legacy: A Lesson in Creativity and Control</p><p>[31:07] Marketing and Creativity: Connecting the Dots</p><p>[36:18] Jotform’s Marketing Strategy</p><p>[39:57] Content Creation: Telling Stories That Resonate</p><p>[46:34] Advice for Crafting a Winning Content Strategy</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Steve-Jobs-Walter-Isaacson/dp/1451648537">Read <i>Steve Jobs</i> by Walter Isaacson</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevehartert/">Connect with Steve on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.jotform.com/">Learn more about Jotform</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We knew this day would come. The day where we finally talk about the one tech company all others look up to: Apple. </p><p>The truth is that the behemoth has endured ups and downs to become one of the greatest brands of all time, and all under the leadership of Steve Jobs. </p><p>So in this episode, we’re taking marketing lessons from Steve Jobs based on his biography by Walter Isaacson with the help of our guest, Jotform CMO Steve Hartert. </p><p>Together, we talk about being insatiably curious about your customers, daring to fail, and exercising your creativity. </p><p><strong>About our guest, Steve Hartert</strong></p><p>Steve Hartert is the chief marketing officer at Jotform. He’s had more than 30 years of B2B and B2C marketing management experience. Prior to Jotform, he was the president of Hartert & Associates, a marketing consultancy that worked with B2B and B2C companies. Steve has been actively involved in marketing internet companies since 1995. He holds a bachelor’s degree from Cal Poly Pomona and an MBA from Cal State San Bernardino.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Steve Jobs</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Be insatiably curious about your customers.</strong> Use their actions and feedback to inform your marketing. Appeal to what drives them and hook them emotionally. Steve says, “Look at how people use your products, your services… look how people use them. Really have a good, solid understanding of that customer's wants and needs. And sometimes they don't know what they want or need until you show them. </li><li><strong>Dare to fail. </strong>Experiment and strive for greatness despite the possibility of missing the mark. Steve says, “Business people and businesses in general pull back the reins because they're afraid of failure for some reason. But failure teaches you how to succeed.”</li><li><strong>Exercise your creativity.</strong> It takes practice stepping outside the bounds of traditional B2B marketing. But creative content makes you stand out from your competitors. Steve says, “How do you get the message out to people to want to now partake in your product or service? You have to be creative to get their attention and keep that attention and then make that product sell and continue to grow.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”He just did what he thought needed to be done to create the right. work. And like that message to me is something that we so rarely do in marketing. Which is like, ‘What is the amount of work that needs to happen to create something great?’ And so often we say, ‘What is good enough?’ And you have to do that, right? You have to do things that are good enough sometimes. But if you want to make something great, you have to do a great amount of work.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”You need to sit there and look at the problem you're trying to solve from multiple angles. A lot of times what I have seen in marketing and in other disciplines of business is people sometimes get surrounded by ‘yes’ people. They don't want to hear a bad thing. ‘Oh, we're weak in this area,’ or ‘We're not good at that.’ You need to hear it. Because if you don't address the full 360 around your product or service, to be able to defend it when something goes wrong, you're just walking yourself into a trap. And that's just a big blind spot that a lot of people have.” - Steve Hartert</p><p>*”[Apple] had about a hundred ideas on this whiteboard. ‘These are great.’ And then [Steve Jobs] said, ‘Okay, pick four of them because that's all we can do.’ So they ended up having to focus on what products they were going to be working on for the next two or three years. And now you've got such clarity in the focus that you can't make a mistake on what you're trying to do. And that's very important. When companies lose that [focus], they get distracted by shiny things, by the latest trend or something that they could pop out there so they can get the stock price up for the next quarter. And so they just kind of bob and weave rather than pushing through on a forward path and saying, ‘We're going to do this and it's going to be tough to get there, but we need to do it.’” - Steve Hartert</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Steve Harter, CMO at Jotform</p><p>[3:14] Exploring the Genius of Steve Jobs Through Isaacson's Biography</p><p>[5:36] The Art of Perfection: Lessons from Steve Jobs</p><p>[9:45] Marketing Insights and the Pursuit of Excellence</p><p>[15:07] Crafting Content with Precision: A Marketing Deep Dive</p><p>[23:07] Strategic Focus and Innovation: The Apple Way</p><p>[26:22] Unlocking Marketing Success: The Power of Focus</p><p>[28:43] Steve Jobs' Legacy: A Lesson in Creativity and Control</p><p>[31:07] Marketing and Creativity: Connecting the Dots</p><p>[36:18] Jotform’s Marketing Strategy</p><p>[39:57] Content Creation: Telling Stories That Resonate</p><p>[46:34] Advice for Crafting a Winning Content Strategy</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Steve-Jobs-Walter-Isaacson/dp/1451648537">Read <i>Steve Jobs</i> by Walter Isaacson</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevehartert/">Connect with Steve on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.jotform.com/">Learn more about Jotform</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>We knew this day would come. The day where we finally talk about the one tech company all others look up to: Apple. 

The truth is that the behemoth has endured ups and downs to become one of the greatest brands of all time, and all under the leadership of Steve Jobs. 

So in this episode, we’re taking marketing lessons from Steve Jobs based on his biography by Walter Isaacson with the help of our guest, Jotform CMO Steve Hartert. 

Together, we talk about being insatiably curious about your customers, daring to fail, and exercising your creativity. </itunes:summary>
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The truth is that the behemoth has endured ups and downs to become one of the greatest brands of all time, and all under the leadership of Steve Jobs. 

So in this episode, we’re taking marketing lessons from Steve Jobs based on his biography by Walter Isaacson with the help of our guest, Jotform CMO Steve Hartert. 

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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Every B2B brand voice sounds the same. Let’s mix in some drama, a bit of comedy, maybe even suspense. </p><p>We’re here to convince you to blend genres and create something new, unique and attention grabbing.</p><p>We’re taking notes from author Dan Simmons and his book <i>The Terror</i> with the help of our guest, JumpCloud CMO Micha Hershman.</p><p>Together, we talk about mixing genres, using persuasion, and basing your narrative on a true story.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Micha Hershman</strong></p><p>Micha Hershman is CMO at JumpCloud, where he scales JumpCloud’s go to market (GTM) strategy and creates programs to deeply engage JumpCloud prospects, partners, and customers. He is a marketing leader with over 20 years of experience in steering marketing initiatives for category leaders such as Eventbrite, Envoy, and Heap Analytics. He has played a pivotal role in scaling organizations, notably contributing to the global demand engine that facilitated Eventbrite’s successful IPO in 2018. His strategic prowess extends to category creation efforts, resulting in Envoy’s unicorn valuation, and platform positioning strategies that culminated in Heap’s acquisition by Contentsquare. </p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> The Terror</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Mix genres.</strong> Borrow from action and sci fi and fantasy and romance and bring it all together to create unique content. Don’t feel like your content has to fit into a box or a category. And your content doesn’t have to be fact-based (as long as you tell your audience it’s fiction.) Give yourself room to play. Micha says, “[Dan Simmons has] a reputation of writing on the margins in general. Like, yes, he's written science fiction and horror books, but they all bleed into each other. This book, <i>Ilium</i> and the Companion, <i>Olympus</i>, is Greek mythology and Shakespeare and Star Trek all smashed up together into this bizarre duology.  And I really love the way that he writes on the fringes and smashes all the stuff up together that he's interested in.”</li><li><strong>Persuasion is key. </strong>It’s a top must-have skill for any marketer. Otherwise no one is gonna click on your content, read your blog, or subscribe to your newsletter. Micha says it best: “You can have great ideas, you can make big pitches, but if you're terrible at presenting it, your great idea for how you're going to save 126 people and get your ship out of the ice and get back to civilization is going to get washed away by some loudmouth who's a really brilliant orator.” Practice writing authoritatively, quote clients, speak to your audience’s deepest cares, concerns and values. And get them hooked.</li><li><strong>“Based on a true story.”</strong> These are magic words that give you a foundation to build a Remarkable story from. Meredith says, “It gives you the bones of the story, but then it gives you freedom to imagine the rest and make it what you want.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”You can have great ideas, you can make big pitches, but if you're terrible at presenting it, your great idea for how you're going to save 126 people and get your ship out of the ice and get back to civilization is going to get washed away by some loudmouth who's a really  brilliant orator.” - Micha Hershman</p><p>*”I can't tell you how much effort I spend trying to talk my team down from doing more work. Like we don't have to go this big. We don't have to spend this much time, money, effort… It's not going to require it. And actually like, well, how little do we have to invest in this feature launch or this acquisition or whatever? Because marketers will add 10 billion bells and whistles. Nobody cares. Nobody wants them. My aim would be to work 35 hours a week because we're so good at the 80 20 rule. We know what 20 percent drives the business.” - Micha Hershman</p><p>*I think on the procurement technology side, buying is relatively straightforward. You've got a couple suppliers, you've got cash in your hand, they've got a cost, you're negotiating. It's a pretty straightforward process that it comes down to math in many cases. On the creative side, a totally different animal. There's no procurement team in the world that can help you. Your CFO is going to shrug their shoulder and say, ‘I don't know, you're the marketer.’ So much like Dan Simmons, you're going to have to have some kind of vision. You have to trust your gut. You're going to have to get bold and go places that maybe other people aren't really ready for you to try.” - Micha Hershman</p><p>*”On the classic B2B SaaS side, the parallel I often draw is about the vision. The founder has this idea for what [the product] can be and how it will disrupt and change the world, even though there's no appetite for it at all. There's no comparable products out there. And then there's the super prosaic, ‘Our customers ask for this feature. We have to build this feature,’ right? Which is a hundred percent data driven and to find that right balance between like vision and satisfying your customer data driven needs is that pressure that’s always on. Finding that right balance, there's some kind of art in it.” - Micha Hershman</p><p>*”As B2B marketers, we're dry, just so dry. It's just like, ‘This is the facts, and this is the information. And there's not a lot of packaging or storytelling or creativity or visual design. But we're not companies who buy, we're people who buy. And so, you know, storytelling is intrinsic to our nature. We all like beautiful things and we're all interested in creative expressions. So I do think that there is more room to explore there.” - Micha Hershman</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Micha Hershman, CMO at JumpCloud</p><p>[12:10] Exploring JumpCloud: A Glimpse into the CMO's Role and Company Vision</p><p>[13:54] The Creative Journey of <i>The Terror</i>: From Rejection to Success</p><p>[25:41] Breaking Down the Story of <i>The Terror</i>: A Blend of History and Fiction</p><p>[28:27] Exploring Dan Simmons' Unique Literary Style</p><p>[29:38] Leadership and Creative Problem Solving Insights</p><p>[31:28] Balancing Fiction with Reality: A Deep Dive</p><p>[36:03] The Power of Storytelling in B2B Marketing</p><p>[49:58] Leadership, Hubris, and Survival: Key Themes Explored</p><p>[53:08] Advice for CMOs</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Terror-Novel-Dan-Simmons/dp/0316008079">Read <i>The Terror</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/michahershman/">Connect with Micha on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://jumpcloud.com/">Learn more about JumpCloud</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Ian Faison, Micha Hershman, Meredith Gooderham, Jess Avellino, Scott Goodrich)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every B2B brand voice sounds the same. Let’s mix in some drama, a bit of comedy, maybe even suspense. </p><p>We’re here to convince you to blend genres and create something new, unique and attention grabbing.</p><p>We’re taking notes from author Dan Simmons and his book <i>The Terror</i> with the help of our guest, JumpCloud CMO Micha Hershman.</p><p>Together, we talk about mixing genres, using persuasion, and basing your narrative on a true story.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Micha Hershman</strong></p><p>Micha Hershman is CMO at JumpCloud, where he scales JumpCloud’s go to market (GTM) strategy and creates programs to deeply engage JumpCloud prospects, partners, and customers. He is a marketing leader with over 20 years of experience in steering marketing initiatives for category leaders such as Eventbrite, Envoy, and Heap Analytics. He has played a pivotal role in scaling organizations, notably contributing to the global demand engine that facilitated Eventbrite’s successful IPO in 2018. His strategic prowess extends to category creation efforts, resulting in Envoy’s unicorn valuation, and platform positioning strategies that culminated in Heap’s acquisition by Contentsquare. </p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> The Terror</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Mix genres.</strong> Borrow from action and sci fi and fantasy and romance and bring it all together to create unique content. Don’t feel like your content has to fit into a box or a category. And your content doesn’t have to be fact-based (as long as you tell your audience it’s fiction.) Give yourself room to play. Micha says, “[Dan Simmons has] a reputation of writing on the margins in general. Like, yes, he's written science fiction and horror books, but they all bleed into each other. This book, <i>Ilium</i> and the Companion, <i>Olympus</i>, is Greek mythology and Shakespeare and Star Trek all smashed up together into this bizarre duology.  And I really love the way that he writes on the fringes and smashes all the stuff up together that he's interested in.”</li><li><strong>Persuasion is key. </strong>It’s a top must-have skill for any marketer. Otherwise no one is gonna click on your content, read your blog, or subscribe to your newsletter. Micha says it best: “You can have great ideas, you can make big pitches, but if you're terrible at presenting it, your great idea for how you're going to save 126 people and get your ship out of the ice and get back to civilization is going to get washed away by some loudmouth who's a really brilliant orator.” Practice writing authoritatively, quote clients, speak to your audience’s deepest cares, concerns and values. And get them hooked.</li><li><strong>“Based on a true story.”</strong> These are magic words that give you a foundation to build a Remarkable story from. Meredith says, “It gives you the bones of the story, but then it gives you freedom to imagine the rest and make it what you want.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”You can have great ideas, you can make big pitches, but if you're terrible at presenting it, your great idea for how you're going to save 126 people and get your ship out of the ice and get back to civilization is going to get washed away by some loudmouth who's a really  brilliant orator.” - Micha Hershman</p><p>*”I can't tell you how much effort I spend trying to talk my team down from doing more work. Like we don't have to go this big. We don't have to spend this much time, money, effort… It's not going to require it. And actually like, well, how little do we have to invest in this feature launch or this acquisition or whatever? Because marketers will add 10 billion bells and whistles. Nobody cares. Nobody wants them. My aim would be to work 35 hours a week because we're so good at the 80 20 rule. We know what 20 percent drives the business.” - Micha Hershman</p><p>*I think on the procurement technology side, buying is relatively straightforward. You've got a couple suppliers, you've got cash in your hand, they've got a cost, you're negotiating. It's a pretty straightforward process that it comes down to math in many cases. On the creative side, a totally different animal. There's no procurement team in the world that can help you. Your CFO is going to shrug their shoulder and say, ‘I don't know, you're the marketer.’ So much like Dan Simmons, you're going to have to have some kind of vision. You have to trust your gut. You're going to have to get bold and go places that maybe other people aren't really ready for you to try.” - Micha Hershman</p><p>*”On the classic B2B SaaS side, the parallel I often draw is about the vision. The founder has this idea for what [the product] can be and how it will disrupt and change the world, even though there's no appetite for it at all. There's no comparable products out there. And then there's the super prosaic, ‘Our customers ask for this feature. We have to build this feature,’ right? Which is a hundred percent data driven and to find that right balance between like vision and satisfying your customer data driven needs is that pressure that’s always on. Finding that right balance, there's some kind of art in it.” - Micha Hershman</p><p>*”As B2B marketers, we're dry, just so dry. It's just like, ‘This is the facts, and this is the information. And there's not a lot of packaging or storytelling or creativity or visual design. But we're not companies who buy, we're people who buy. And so, you know, storytelling is intrinsic to our nature. We all like beautiful things and we're all interested in creative expressions. So I do think that there is more room to explore there.” - Micha Hershman</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Micha Hershman, CMO at JumpCloud</p><p>[12:10] Exploring JumpCloud: A Glimpse into the CMO's Role and Company Vision</p><p>[13:54] The Creative Journey of <i>The Terror</i>: From Rejection to Success</p><p>[25:41] Breaking Down the Story of <i>The Terror</i>: A Blend of History and Fiction</p><p>[28:27] Exploring Dan Simmons' Unique Literary Style</p><p>[29:38] Leadership and Creative Problem Solving Insights</p><p>[31:28] Balancing Fiction with Reality: A Deep Dive</p><p>[36:03] The Power of Storytelling in B2B Marketing</p><p>[49:58] Leadership, Hubris, and Survival: Key Themes Explored</p><p>[53:08] Advice for CMOs</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Terror-Novel-Dan-Simmons/dp/0316008079">Read <i>The Terror</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/michahershman/">Connect with Micha on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://jumpcloud.com/">Learn more about JumpCloud</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>If you don’t have a map, you’re lost. How do you know where you’re going or even what the next step is? </p><p>This is true whether you’re navigating Middle Earth or content creation. We’re here to help you get oriented.</p><p>In this episode, we’re taking marketing lessons from <i>The Hobbit</i> with the help of our special guest, CMO at ChurnZero, Hunter Montgomery.</p><p>Together, we talk about drawing a map, finding a mentor who will push you out of your comfort zone, blocking and tackling, and getting your partners to tell your story.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Hunter Montgomery</strong></p><p>Hunter Montgomery is Chief Marketing Officer at ChurnZero, customer success platform providers. Hunter is a results-driven marketing professional with more than 25 years experience developing, executing and measuring global sales and marketing strategies and campaigns. He has held executive and upper management roles at Higher Logic, Vocus (now Cision), and Verizon. </p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> The Hobbit</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Draw a map. </strong>Have a plan for your content from creation to promotion, reuse, repurposing and beyond. Hunter says, “You can't just start out thinking, ‘Well, I'm here and I want to get there. I'll figure it out along the way.’ You gotta have a plan. You have a map. You will get things thrown at you and so know it's going to change a little bit along the way. But you just can't say, ‘Well, I'll know when I get there.’ That doesn't really work.” <i>The Hobbit</i> starts with a map. And just like how the reader can find their bearings throughout the story by revisiting the map, a content map or plan is useful for marketers too. The map gives you your foundation to be prepared and guide you along the way. And it’s also super satisfying to look back at your map and see how far you’ve come.</li><li><strong>Find a mentor who will push you out of your comfort zone. </strong>This is undoubtedly Gandalf. Because hobbits are creatures of comfort, it’s Gandalf who gives Bilbo the push to go on an adventure. So find your Gandalf. Ian says, “It doesn't actually have to be someone you know. It could be someone you listen to on a podcast. It could be someone who is out in the culture, who you follow on Twitter, or it could be someone that you know personally.” He says, “Gandalf is the one who recognizes with Bilbo, ‘I think there's something unique about you, and I think that you need this push.’ And it's just special. It's one of the great things about this story, is that Gandalf believes that Bilbo can do it.”</li><li><strong>Block and tackle.</strong> Hunter says, “Sometimes you just got to get the basic stuff done every day, little by little. Two months, three months, six months, a year later, you're where you needed to be. And I think people sometimes just track it out. They want the big and the brash. You gotta go big sometimes. You gotta take big risks and be creative. And I totally believe you have to do that. And when people zig, you gotta zag.  But a lot of other times, you just gotta get it done. And so I think Bilbo was the one who did that.”</li><li><strong>Partner up.</strong> Don’t be the one telling your audience how great you are. Find partners who will do that for you. It builds credibility and trust. Hunter says, “It could be vendors, could be thought leaders, bringing them in. Have them talk, have them validate customers. Customers are great for content. We have a community, so you hear from them on that, but don't be the source. Just try to find other places, other people to tell your story, because they can do it better. And they’re more legitimate in the eyes of the buyer in many ways.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Finding people to collaborate, there's co-marketing, there's co-creating. Co-creating content with your ideal customers or prospects is so important. Cause we always try to figure out like, ‘What do they want to hear? Why don't we just go make it with them?’” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”The content needs to match the journey. Customer journey mapping is one way of doing it. But I think that that can be too specific to your actual exact journey of your customers. And I think you need to sometimes pull back from that and have a bigger picture. Have a map, but don't let it restrict what you do.” - Hunter Montgomery</p><p>*”People are pretty poor at telling their own stories. But if you ask enough questions to get the right answers and dig in there, then you can really find those pearls of wisdom and put that stuff together in a really meaningful, digestible format.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”Just go after something. Take a leap of faith in something that you feel strongly is going to work. - Hunter Montgomery</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Hunter Montgomery, CMO at ChurnZero</p><p>[1:32] Hunter Montgomery's Hobbit-Inspired Marketing Insights</p><p>[3:33] The Hobbit's Origin Story: From Bedtime Tales to Global Phenomenon</p><p>[8:50] Marketing Lessons from Middle Earth</p><p>[15:57] The Power of Maps in Storytelling and Marketing</p><p>[21:49] Exploring Bilbo's Unassuming Heroism</p><p>[22:48] Marketing Lessons from Gandalf's Mentorship</p><p>[24:18] B2B Marketing Insights and Strategies</p><p>[27:00] Leveraging Content and Partnerships in Marketing</p><p>[31:47] Evolving Event Strategies and Content Creation</p><p>[35:20] Navigating the Tech Stack and Data Integration</p><p>[38:52] Strategic Content Planning and Execution</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Hobbit-J-R-Tolkien/dp/054792822X">Read <i>The Hobbit</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/huntermontgomery/">Connect with Hunter on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://churnzero.com/">Learn more about ChurnZero</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you don’t have a map, you’re lost. How do you know where you’re going or even what the next step is? </p><p>This is true whether you’re navigating Middle Earth or content creation. We’re here to help you get oriented.</p><p>In this episode, we’re taking marketing lessons from <i>The Hobbit</i> with the help of our special guest, CMO at ChurnZero, Hunter Montgomery.</p><p>Together, we talk about drawing a map, finding a mentor who will push you out of your comfort zone, blocking and tackling, and getting your partners to tell your story.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Hunter Montgomery</strong></p><p>Hunter Montgomery is Chief Marketing Officer at ChurnZero, customer success platform providers. Hunter is a results-driven marketing professional with more than 25 years experience developing, executing and measuring global sales and marketing strategies and campaigns. He has held executive and upper management roles at Higher Logic, Vocus (now Cision), and Verizon. </p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> The Hobbit</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Draw a map. </strong>Have a plan for your content from creation to promotion, reuse, repurposing and beyond. Hunter says, “You can't just start out thinking, ‘Well, I'm here and I want to get there. I'll figure it out along the way.’ You gotta have a plan. You have a map. You will get things thrown at you and so know it's going to change a little bit along the way. But you just can't say, ‘Well, I'll know when I get there.’ That doesn't really work.” <i>The Hobbit</i> starts with a map. And just like how the reader can find their bearings throughout the story by revisiting the map, a content map or plan is useful for marketers too. The map gives you your foundation to be prepared and guide you along the way. And it’s also super satisfying to look back at your map and see how far you’ve come.</li><li><strong>Find a mentor who will push you out of your comfort zone. </strong>This is undoubtedly Gandalf. Because hobbits are creatures of comfort, it’s Gandalf who gives Bilbo the push to go on an adventure. So find your Gandalf. Ian says, “It doesn't actually have to be someone you know. It could be someone you listen to on a podcast. It could be someone who is out in the culture, who you follow on Twitter, or it could be someone that you know personally.” He says, “Gandalf is the one who recognizes with Bilbo, ‘I think there's something unique about you, and I think that you need this push.’ And it's just special. It's one of the great things about this story, is that Gandalf believes that Bilbo can do it.”</li><li><strong>Block and tackle.</strong> Hunter says, “Sometimes you just got to get the basic stuff done every day, little by little. Two months, three months, six months, a year later, you're where you needed to be. And I think people sometimes just track it out. They want the big and the brash. You gotta go big sometimes. You gotta take big risks and be creative. And I totally believe you have to do that. And when people zig, you gotta zag.  But a lot of other times, you just gotta get it done. And so I think Bilbo was the one who did that.”</li><li><strong>Partner up.</strong> Don’t be the one telling your audience how great you are. Find partners who will do that for you. It builds credibility and trust. Hunter says, “It could be vendors, could be thought leaders, bringing them in. Have them talk, have them validate customers. Customers are great for content. We have a community, so you hear from them on that, but don't be the source. Just try to find other places, other people to tell your story, because they can do it better. 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But if you ask enough questions to get the right answers and dig in there, then you can really find those pearls of wisdom and put that stuff together in a really meaningful, digestible format.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”Just go after something. Take a leap of faith in something that you feel strongly is going to work. - Hunter Montgomery</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Hunter Montgomery, CMO at ChurnZero</p><p>[1:32] Hunter Montgomery's Hobbit-Inspired Marketing Insights</p><p>[3:33] The Hobbit's Origin Story: From Bedtime Tales to Global Phenomenon</p><p>[8:50] Marketing Lessons from Middle Earth</p><p>[15:57] The Power of Maps in Storytelling and Marketing</p><p>[21:49] Exploring Bilbo's Unassuming Heroism</p><p>[22:48] Marketing Lessons from Gandalf's Mentorship</p><p>[24:18] B2B Marketing Insights and Strategies</p><p>[27:00] Leveraging Content and Partnerships in Marketing</p><p>[31:47] Evolving Event Strategies and Content Creation</p><p>[35:20] Navigating the Tech Stack and Data Integration</p><p>[38:52] Strategic Content Planning and Execution</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Hobbit-J-R-Tolkien/dp/054792822X">Read <i>The Hobbit</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/huntermontgomery/">Connect with Hunter on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://churnzero.com/">Learn more about ChurnZero</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Leslie Knope once said, “We need to remember what’s important in life: friends, waffles, work. Or waffles, friends, work. Doesn’t matter, but work is third.”</p><p>And we agree, waffles are important. But we’re here today to talk about friends. Because making marketing friends is key to supporting your growth and content production.</p><p>That’s one of the lessons we’re taking away from <i>Parks and Recreation</i> with the help of our guest, Director of Content Marketing at Intellimize, Jen Lacey. Together, we talk about building relationships, collaborating for creative problem solving, and embracing your weirdness.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Jen Lacey</strong></p><p>Jen Lacey is Director of Content Marketing at Intellimize, where she’s responsible for web strategy, brand and maintenance including a complete corporate rebrand. She oversees content strategy, production and promotion to align with sales and revenue goals, which has resulted in a 32% increase in pipeline. She  shapes the brand’s footprint through multiple content channels including PR, web and partner channels among other responsibilities. Prior to joining Intellimize in July 2022, Jen served as Marketing Director at Fountain. She also spent nearly 9 years in marketing at SparkPost (acquired by Message Bird). </p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Parks and Recreation</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Build relationships. </strong>Create sources of mutual support and collaboration. It’s a symbiotic relationship that strengthens your content and marketing. Jen says, “Leslie is all about building relationships, which I feel is the foundational thing that has helped me excel and thrive in my roles, being able to work cross-functionally with different stakeholders, getting feedback from people, my CS team internally, working with customers, doing outreach to talk to customers about how they're using our product…being that kind of conduit and building those relationships is so critical to success anywhere, and especially in the B2B world.”</li><li><strong>Collaborate for creative problem solving. </strong>If you’re working on a tight budget - and let’s be real, most of us are - you gotta put your heads together with your team and brainstorm innovative solutions. This is when a lot of great ideas come up that could be your next big success. Jen says, “In the show, Leslie does this constantly. Every episode, there's some new problem or something that they've got to solve. And she's always thinking outside the box of how to motivate her maybe not-so-motivated team to do things. Or how to get creative in approaching different challenges. And I think that leaning into that creativity and collaborating with people, and using your team, your different individual team members to their strengths is how you circumvent a lot of those challenges.”</li><li><strong>Embrace your weirdness. </strong>Your weirdness is a strength that you can use to be relatable and connect with your audience. It’s what lets your audience know that there’s a human behind the content. Jen says, “Don't try to be anyone else. Think of where you stand out and where you can contribute, and embrace that. Embrace what makes you unique and weave it into your marketing tactics and strategy. I think everyone associates B2B with straight-laced, very serious LinkedIn ad campaigns and email nurtures that are dry and boring. But at the end of the day, I'm marketing to other marketers. They’re still people. And that human element is what makes us relatable. And so coming up with weird, unique, wacky ways to connect with them and get their attention and then pitch them on whatever it is you're trying to sell them on or get them to do, is key. That’s how Leslie anything done in her office, catering to people's unique personalities and being weird and being herself. And her team loves her for it at the end of the day.” </li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”In B2B, there's only so many ways you can say the same thing. And we're all kind of saying the same flavor of something. Like we're all selling to other businesses, whether you're selling to tech people or you're selling to other marketers. It's the way that you can get yourself to stand out and lean on that creativity, especially if you don't have a giant budget to work with or a big team or a ton of bandwidth. How can you embrace your creativity and think outside the box, even if you're saying basically the same thing? Like how do you stand out, how do you set yourself apart?” - Jen Lacey</p><p>*”There are so many ridiculously great characters in the [<i>Parks and Recreation]</i>. Putting two people that are opposites together is a great B2B marketing takeaway because we have so many opposites in the business world. Whether it's your CIO and your CMO, or your CFO and the salesperson. There's these huge differences between people just based off of like personalities. And you can play with that stuff so much and turn it up to an 11. And I think the big lesson there is turning up those things to 11, which makes it so funny because you see parts of the Ron Swansons or the Aprils in people you work with. And that's why these shows are so funny.” - Ian Faison</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Jen Lacey, Director of Content Marketing at Intellimize</p><p>[1:38] Jen Lacey's Unique Marketing Approach Inspired by Parks and Rec</p><p>[3:51] Exploring the Creative Process Behind Parks and Rec</p><p>[7:57] The Art of Character Development in Parks and Rec</p><p>[13:58] Leveraging Opposites and Relationship Building in B2B Marketing</p><p>[19:45] The Mockumentary Style of Parks and Rec</p><p>[28:11] Adapting Marketing Strategies to Resources and Situations</p><p>[28:32] Innovation vs. Imitation in Creative Marketing</p><p>[29:42] Embracing Creativity and Uniqueness in B2B Marketing</p><p>[33:26] Leveraging Personal Experiences and Humor in Campaigns</p><p>[40:03] Maximizing Content Impact with Strategic Planning</p><p>[41:57] Showcasing Successful Campaigns and Their Outcomes</p><p>[50:40] Future Projects and Final Advice for Marketers</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.e0a9f7c6-3ac6-5112-b12c-0eae98527cf6?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch Parks and Recreation</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifermlacey/">Connect with Jen on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.intellimize.com/">Learn more about Intellimize</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Ian Faison, Jen Lacey, Meredith Gooderham, Jess Avellino, Scott Goodrich)</author>
      <link>https://www.caspianstudios.com/remarkable</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leslie Knope once said, “We need to remember what’s important in life: friends, waffles, work. Or waffles, friends, work. Doesn’t matter, but work is third.”</p><p>And we agree, waffles are important. But we’re here today to talk about friends. Because making marketing friends is key to supporting your growth and content production.</p><p>That’s one of the lessons we’re taking away from <i>Parks and Recreation</i> with the help of our guest, Director of Content Marketing at Intellimize, Jen Lacey. Together, we talk about building relationships, collaborating for creative problem solving, and embracing your weirdness.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Jen Lacey</strong></p><p>Jen Lacey is Director of Content Marketing at Intellimize, where she’s responsible for web strategy, brand and maintenance including a complete corporate rebrand. She oversees content strategy, production and promotion to align with sales and revenue goals, which has resulted in a 32% increase in pipeline. She  shapes the brand’s footprint through multiple content channels including PR, web and partner channels among other responsibilities. Prior to joining Intellimize in July 2022, Jen served as Marketing Director at Fountain. She also spent nearly 9 years in marketing at SparkPost (acquired by Message Bird). </p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Parks and Recreation</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Build relationships. </strong>Create sources of mutual support and collaboration. It’s a symbiotic relationship that strengthens your content and marketing. Jen says, “Leslie is all about building relationships, which I feel is the foundational thing that has helped me excel and thrive in my roles, being able to work cross-functionally with different stakeholders, getting feedback from people, my CS team internally, working with customers, doing outreach to talk to customers about how they're using our product…being that kind of conduit and building those relationships is so critical to success anywhere, and especially in the B2B world.”</li><li><strong>Collaborate for creative problem solving. </strong>If you’re working on a tight budget - and let’s be real, most of us are - you gotta put your heads together with your team and brainstorm innovative solutions. This is when a lot of great ideas come up that could be your next big success. Jen says, “In the show, Leslie does this constantly. Every episode, there's some new problem or something that they've got to solve. And she's always thinking outside the box of how to motivate her maybe not-so-motivated team to do things. Or how to get creative in approaching different challenges. And I think that leaning into that creativity and collaborating with people, and using your team, your different individual team members to their strengths is how you circumvent a lot of those challenges.”</li><li><strong>Embrace your weirdness. </strong>Your weirdness is a strength that you can use to be relatable and connect with your audience. It’s what lets your audience know that there’s a human behind the content. Jen says, “Don't try to be anyone else. Think of where you stand out and where you can contribute, and embrace that. Embrace what makes you unique and weave it into your marketing tactics and strategy. I think everyone associates B2B with straight-laced, very serious LinkedIn ad campaigns and email nurtures that are dry and boring. But at the end of the day, I'm marketing to other marketers. They’re still people. And that human element is what makes us relatable. And so coming up with weird, unique, wacky ways to connect with them and get their attention and then pitch them on whatever it is you're trying to sell them on or get them to do, is key. That’s how Leslie anything done in her office, catering to people's unique personalities and being weird and being herself. And her team loves her for it at the end of the day.” </li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”In B2B, there's only so many ways you can say the same thing. And we're all kind of saying the same flavor of something. Like we're all selling to other businesses, whether you're selling to tech people or you're selling to other marketers. It's the way that you can get yourself to stand out and lean on that creativity, especially if you don't have a giant budget to work with or a big team or a ton of bandwidth. How can you embrace your creativity and think outside the box, even if you're saying basically the same thing? Like how do you stand out, how do you set yourself apart?” - Jen Lacey</p><p>*”There are so many ridiculously great characters in the [<i>Parks and Recreation]</i>. Putting two people that are opposites together is a great B2B marketing takeaway because we have so many opposites in the business world. Whether it's your CIO and your CMO, or your CFO and the salesperson. There's these huge differences between people just based off of like personalities. And you can play with that stuff so much and turn it up to an 11. And I think the big lesson there is turning up those things to 11, which makes it so funny because you see parts of the Ron Swansons or the Aprils in people you work with. And that's why these shows are so funny.” - Ian Faison</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Jen Lacey, Director of Content Marketing at Intellimize</p><p>[1:38] Jen Lacey's Unique Marketing Approach Inspired by Parks and Rec</p><p>[3:51] Exploring the Creative Process Behind Parks and Rec</p><p>[7:57] The Art of Character Development in Parks and Rec</p><p>[13:58] Leveraging Opposites and Relationship Building in B2B Marketing</p><p>[19:45] The Mockumentary Style of Parks and Rec</p><p>[28:11] Adapting Marketing Strategies to Resources and Situations</p><p>[28:32] Innovation vs. Imitation in Creative Marketing</p><p>[29:42] Embracing Creativity and Uniqueness in B2B Marketing</p><p>[33:26] Leveraging Personal Experiences and Humor in Campaigns</p><p>[40:03] Maximizing Content Impact with Strategic Planning</p><p>[41:57] Showcasing Successful Campaigns and Their Outcomes</p><p>[50:40] Future Projects and Final Advice for Marketers</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.e0a9f7c6-3ac6-5112-b12c-0eae98527cf6?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch Parks and Recreation</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifermlacey/">Connect with Jen on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.intellimize.com/">Learn more about Intellimize</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>Leslie Knope once said, “We need to remember what’s important in life: friends, waffles, work. Or waffles, friends, work. Doesn’t matter, but work is third.”

And we agree, waffles are important. But we’re here today to talk about friends. Because making marketing friends is key to supporting your growth and content production.

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      <title>Survivor: B2B Marketing Lessons from One of the Longest Running Reality Shows in History with Founder of Distribution First, Justin Simon</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>There’s a very real shift in mindset between making a single piece of content and making a long-standing series. </p><p>But that shift in mindset launches a content machine that can fill your calendar, grow a dedicated audience, and build a name for your brand.</p><p>And in this episode, we’re learning from one of the biggest content machines in reality TV: <i>Survivor</i>. </p><p>We’re looking at the show that’s been running for 46 seasons to date with the help of our guest, Founder of Distribution First, Justin Simon. </p><p>Together, we talk about repeating your winning formula, creating a distribution plan, and staying true to who you are.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Justin Simon</strong></p><p>Justin Simon is founder of Distribution First, a membership community where smart marketers create less, distribute more, and grow together. He is also a consultant and the host of the Distribution First podcast. Prior to starting his consulting firm, Justin served as Senior Content Marketing Manager at metadata.io. He also previously served as Global Content Strategy Manager at TechSmith Corporation, a global provider of screen capture and screen recording software. He worked for TechSmith for over 10 years, having started as a Sales Intern in February 2011.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Survivor</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Repeat your winning formula. </strong>Be consistent over time with the things that have proven successful. With some tweaks here and there, <i>Survivor </i>has followed essentially the same formula for 46 seasons, making it one of the longest lasting reality TV shows of all time. Justin says, “I think that that's like the magic of what has made it last, amongst many other things, for so long. It's consistent, it's repeatable, and you always know what you're getting.”</li><li><strong>Have a plan for distribution of your content before creating the content itself.</strong> Justin says, “Know what distribution channels you have available to you. Pick one or two that you're really going to hammer in on and get really good at those. Make sure your audience is aware that you exist on those channels. It goes back to consistency. Be able to consistently deliver value to the audience on those channels.” And then understand “How much content do you actually need? And then reverse engineering back to that. Because I think a lot of people get themselves stuck on a hamster wheel of creating content because they don't actually know how much content they need.”</li><li><strong>Stay true to who you are. </strong>Don’t try to reinvent the wheel. Keep your core values at the center of your content. From the first season, first episode, <i>Survivor </i>has used the tagline “Outwit, outplay, outlast.” And it's become an iconic slogan for the show. Justin says, “My biggest lesson from Survivor is just staying true to who you are and being able to create something that is really long lasting and not a flash in the pan. There's lots of flash in the pan marketing. And so how do we build up plans? How do we keep saying the same things over and over and talking about those things in a way that resonates, adjusting angles, and switching things?”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Creating content for the sake of creating content is not good enough anymore. And I think a lot of teams still feel the need to hit a drumbeat of production without a ‘why’ behind that, or how the audience is going to engage with that, or a reason that it fits in with the larger marketing strategy, business strategy, all that type of stuff. But hey, we're creating content, so we're ahead of the game here. And so I think for me what that caused is a lot of stress, a lot of burnout, a lot of just trying to keep that ball rolling up the hill and then no time or energy or effort to be able to actually step back and be more strategic or be creative or experiment or any of these things that we wanted to do when we started to be marketers, do the fun stuff, try new things, try new formats, because we've got to still pump out all this content.” -Justin Simon</p><p>*”Most people have no clue what's happening with the content they create. The irony of it all is very, very thick that we're spending so much time and so much effort to create all of these things and we have no way of knowing how that's getting in front of anybody, if people care, in what ways they’re going to use it. How are we going to maybe reintroduce that same concept in different formats and in different ways? I think especially for folks who are creating evergreen content, it's a huge miss to not be repurposing and distributing that content.” - Justin Simon</p><p>*”In a typical marketing content landscape, distribution gets tacked on at the end. Like, ‘All right, we've got the thing. Now, what do we do?’ Versus throwing it at the beginning, distribution first, and thinking through, ‘All right, as we're creating this podcast, as we're creating this monthly event series, what's going to happen once the show goes live? So now they're creating a real engine that they can just kind of repeat and reuse and then adjust as necessary.” - Justin Simon</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Justin Simon, Founder of Distribution First</p><p>[1:49] <i>Survivor</i>'s Enduring Appeal: A Deep Dive with Justin Simon</p><p>[7:16] The Evolution of <i>Survivor</i>: From Concept to Cultural Phenomenon</p><p>[10:28] <i>Survivor</i>'s Winning Formula: Strategy, Diversity, and Adaptation</p><p>[19:16] <i>Survivor</i> vs. <i>Alone</i>: Analyzing Reality TV's Survival Shows</p><p>[22:48] Marketing Insights from <i>Survivor</i>'s Success Story</p><p>[24:15] Unlocking the Secrets of Content Longevity and Consistency</p><p>[25:50] The Aspirational Power of Location in Storytelling</p><p>[27:25] The Role of the Evangelist in Content Creation</p><p>[28:50] Redefining Leadership and Charisma in Content Series</p><p>[33:01] <i>Survivor'</i>s Lessons for B2B Marketing and Content Strategy</p><p>[40:34] The Art of Repurposing and the Power of Distribution</p><p>[47:08] Final Thoughts on Content Marketing and Distribution Strategies</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.73cb4005-78f2-4323-b64e-14c12c582270?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch Survivor</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincsimon/">Connect with Justin on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://distributionfirst.co/">Learn more about Distribution First</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2024 09:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Ian Faison, Justin Simon, Meredith Gooderham, Scott Goodrich)</author>
      <link>https://www.caspianstudios.com/remarkable</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There’s a very real shift in mindset between making a single piece of content and making a long-standing series. </p><p>But that shift in mindset launches a content machine that can fill your calendar, grow a dedicated audience, and build a name for your brand.</p><p>And in this episode, we’re learning from one of the biggest content machines in reality TV: <i>Survivor</i>. </p><p>We’re looking at the show that’s been running for 46 seasons to date with the help of our guest, Founder of Distribution First, Justin Simon. </p><p>Together, we talk about repeating your winning formula, creating a distribution plan, and staying true to who you are.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Justin Simon</strong></p><p>Justin Simon is founder of Distribution First, a membership community where smart marketers create less, distribute more, and grow together. He is also a consultant and the host of the Distribution First podcast. Prior to starting his consulting firm, Justin served as Senior Content Marketing Manager at metadata.io. He also previously served as Global Content Strategy Manager at TechSmith Corporation, a global provider of screen capture and screen recording software. He worked for TechSmith for over 10 years, having started as a Sales Intern in February 2011.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Survivor</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Repeat your winning formula. </strong>Be consistent over time with the things that have proven successful. With some tweaks here and there, <i>Survivor </i>has followed essentially the same formula for 46 seasons, making it one of the longest lasting reality TV shows of all time. Justin says, “I think that that's like the magic of what has made it last, amongst many other things, for so long. It's consistent, it's repeatable, and you always know what you're getting.”</li><li><strong>Have a plan for distribution of your content before creating the content itself.</strong> Justin says, “Know what distribution channels you have available to you. Pick one or two that you're really going to hammer in on and get really good at those. Make sure your audience is aware that you exist on those channels. It goes back to consistency. Be able to consistently deliver value to the audience on those channels.” And then understand “How much content do you actually need? And then reverse engineering back to that. Because I think a lot of people get themselves stuck on a hamster wheel of creating content because they don't actually know how much content they need.”</li><li><strong>Stay true to who you are. </strong>Don’t try to reinvent the wheel. Keep your core values at the center of your content. From the first season, first episode, <i>Survivor </i>has used the tagline “Outwit, outplay, outlast.” And it's become an iconic slogan for the show. Justin says, “My biggest lesson from Survivor is just staying true to who you are and being able to create something that is really long lasting and not a flash in the pan. There's lots of flash in the pan marketing. And so how do we build up plans? How do we keep saying the same things over and over and talking about those things in a way that resonates, adjusting angles, and switching things?”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Creating content for the sake of creating content is not good enough anymore. And I think a lot of teams still feel the need to hit a drumbeat of production without a ‘why’ behind that, or how the audience is going to engage with that, or a reason that it fits in with the larger marketing strategy, business strategy, all that type of stuff. But hey, we're creating content, so we're ahead of the game here. And so I think for me what that caused is a lot of stress, a lot of burnout, a lot of just trying to keep that ball rolling up the hill and then no time or energy or effort to be able to actually step back and be more strategic or be creative or experiment or any of these things that we wanted to do when we started to be marketers, do the fun stuff, try new things, try new formats, because we've got to still pump out all this content.” -Justin Simon</p><p>*”Most people have no clue what's happening with the content they create. The irony of it all is very, very thick that we're spending so much time and so much effort to create all of these things and we have no way of knowing how that's getting in front of anybody, if people care, in what ways they’re going to use it. How are we going to maybe reintroduce that same concept in different formats and in different ways? I think especially for folks who are creating evergreen content, it's a huge miss to not be repurposing and distributing that content.” - Justin Simon</p><p>*”In a typical marketing content landscape, distribution gets tacked on at the end. Like, ‘All right, we've got the thing. Now, what do we do?’ Versus throwing it at the beginning, distribution first, and thinking through, ‘All right, as we're creating this podcast, as we're creating this monthly event series, what's going to happen once the show goes live? So now they're creating a real engine that they can just kind of repeat and reuse and then adjust as necessary.” - Justin Simon</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Justin Simon, Founder of Distribution First</p><p>[1:49] <i>Survivor</i>'s Enduring Appeal: A Deep Dive with Justin Simon</p><p>[7:16] The Evolution of <i>Survivor</i>: From Concept to Cultural Phenomenon</p><p>[10:28] <i>Survivor</i>'s Winning Formula: Strategy, Diversity, and Adaptation</p><p>[19:16] <i>Survivor</i> vs. <i>Alone</i>: Analyzing Reality TV's Survival Shows</p><p>[22:48] Marketing Insights from <i>Survivor</i>'s Success Story</p><p>[24:15] Unlocking the Secrets of Content Longevity and Consistency</p><p>[25:50] The Aspirational Power of Location in Storytelling</p><p>[27:25] The Role of the Evangelist in Content Creation</p><p>[28:50] Redefining Leadership and Charisma in Content Series</p><p>[33:01] <i>Survivor'</i>s Lessons for B2B Marketing and Content Strategy</p><p>[40:34] The Art of Repurposing and the Power of Distribution</p><p>[47:08] Final Thoughts on Content Marketing and Distribution Strategies</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.73cb4005-78f2-4323-b64e-14c12c582270?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch Survivor</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincsimon/">Connect with Justin on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://distributionfirst.co/">Learn more about Distribution First</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Making content that’s truly original is something all content marketers want to do.</p><p>But then why does so much B2B content look and feel the same? </p><p>Today, we’re giving you permission to express yourself in content like you might express yourself in art. </p><p>In this episode, we’re taking lessons from the Japanese collective of ultra-technologists known as teamLab. </p><p>Together, with the help of our guest, SVP of Marketing at Sigma Computing Erik Bower, we’re talking about defying convention, starting with the last mile, and more.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Erik Bower</strong></p><p>Erik Bower is SVP of Marketing at Sigma. Prior to joining the company in November of 2023, Erik ran marketing at startups like Daily and Amplitude. He owned growth and digital demand at Palo Alto Networks from $125M to $2.9 billion in 8 years. He is an AI <a href="https://uspto.report/patent/app/20200311513">patent holder</a> and has been building ML based machine marketing engines since before 2015.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>teamLab:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Question convention and then defy it.</strong> Don’t just fall back on the way things are usually done. Think critically about your content and make something truly original. Erik says, “Think differently about things that are sitting right in front of you, and ask questions like, ‘Why is the convention to do things this way in our industry? It doesn't make any sense.’ You always have to take things with that lens of questioning what actually works, and not work from some kind of template that you see other people do.” It’s like how TeamLab operates outside of convention. They create immersive experiences that are truly original.</li><li><strong>Start with the last mile.</strong> Plan how you’re going to promote your content before you make the content itself. Erik says, “Why wouldn't you start with the last mile? Like you're going to put all of this energy into creating this super expensive event or packaging up this asset,  and then the actual promotion of it is kind of like an afterthought that no one really pays attention to. Start with the last mile and work your way back. If you can't generate interest for this thing, then why are you producing it?”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Especially as it pertains to B2B marketing and tech marketing,  I think a lot of what you see is very rote. It's checkbox marketing. But I think that teamLab shows you that original ideas are still possible. I think you have to strive for what a boss of mine called the thumb test, where you put your thumb over the logo. Can you still tell that it's your brand? But go beyond that. Where every experience is innovative, engaging, and not rote. It's a challenge to stay fresh like that, but you can definitely achieve it.”</p><p>*”It takes that wild hair to just say, ‘I want to use this technology in a new way.’ So I think if anything, I have a reputation for having a wild hair. Think differently about things that are sitting right in front of you, and ask questions like, ‘Why is the convention to do things this way in our industry? It doesn't make any sense.’”</p><p>*”You always have to take things with that lens of questioning what actually works, and not work from some kind of template that you see other people do. Original ideas are still possible and important that you have them. You have to have a point of view.”</p><p>*”In order to make email marketing and these other things perform well, they have to be more and more micro-targeted to the persona,  the vertical, the use case for line of business. And then it also has to take into account the things that they've already engaged with, where they are in the funnel. And so it becomes this big matrix that's sometimes referred to it as ‘Battleship.’ And if you start to do that, you realize that you have a pretty insurmountable amount of content you have to generate. So you have to start to pick your battles and learn which ones are the highest value segments to focus your energy on content generation.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Erik Bower, SVP of Marketing at Sigma Computing</p><p>[4:13] The Magic of teamLab: Blending Art, Technology, and Experience</p><p>[7:08] Sigma Computing: Revolutionizing Business Intelligence in the Cloud</p><p>[10:21] The Art of Experience: How teamLab Transforms Perception</p><p>[12:07] The Philosophy Behind teamLab: Art, Technology, and Interaction</p><p>[15:54] Revisiting teamLab: The Ever-Changing World of Interactive Art</p><p>[20:56] Marketing Inspiration from teamLab: Pushing the Boundaries of B2B</p><p>[27:09] The Challenge of B2B Website Design</p><p>[28:14] Innovative Storytelling in Web Design</p><p>[29:19] The Fast Fashion of B2B Websites: Embracing Simplicity</p><p>[30:08] Decoding Sigma Computing's Marketing Strategy</p><p>[30:30] Micro-Segmentation: The Future of Targeted Marketing</p><p>[32:09] The Potential and Pitfalls of AI in Marketing</p><p>[34:15] Winning the Last Mile: The Importance of Clear Messaging</p><p>[42:17] Predictive Marketing and the Future of CRM</p><p>[51:25] Sigma Computing's Upcoming Initiatives</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.teamlab.art/">Check out teamLab</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/erikbower/">Connect with Erik on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.sigmacomputing.com/">Learn more about Sigma Computing</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Making content that’s truly original is something all content marketers want to do.</p><p>But then why does so much B2B content look and feel the same? </p><p>Today, we’re giving you permission to express yourself in content like you might express yourself in art. </p><p>In this episode, we’re taking lessons from the Japanese collective of ultra-technologists known as teamLab. </p><p>Together, with the help of our guest, SVP of Marketing at Sigma Computing Erik Bower, we’re talking about defying convention, starting with the last mile, and more.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Erik Bower</strong></p><p>Erik Bower is SVP of Marketing at Sigma. Prior to joining the company in November of 2023, Erik ran marketing at startups like Daily and Amplitude. He owned growth and digital demand at Palo Alto Networks from $125M to $2.9 billion in 8 years. 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Can you still tell that it's your brand? But go beyond that. Where every experience is innovative, engaging, and not rote. It's a challenge to stay fresh like that, but you can definitely achieve it.”</p><p>*”It takes that wild hair to just say, ‘I want to use this technology in a new way.’ So I think if anything, I have a reputation for having a wild hair. Think differently about things that are sitting right in front of you, and ask questions like, ‘Why is the convention to do things this way in our industry? It doesn't make any sense.’”</p><p>*”You always have to take things with that lens of questioning what actually works, and not work from some kind of template that you see other people do. Original ideas are still possible and important that you have them. You have to have a point of view.”</p><p>*”In order to make email marketing and these other things perform well, they have to be more and more micro-targeted to the persona,  the vertical, the use case for line of business. And then it also has to take into account the things that they've already engaged with, where they are in the funnel. And so it becomes this big matrix that's sometimes referred to it as ‘Battleship.’ And if you start to do that, you realize that you have a pretty insurmountable amount of content you have to generate. 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      <description><![CDATA[<p>It’s every marketer’s dream to inspire a cult-like following, but that term is usually used for B2C brands. Until you use the tips from this episode in your marketing.</p><p>We’re pulling inspiration from the leather bag brand that brought in $128M in sales last year, Portland Leather Goods. With the help of our guest, Head of Marketing Production at Boomi, Danalynne Menegus, we’re talking about building a community, creating a sense of exclusivity, and personalizing your marketing.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Danalynne Menegus</strong></p><p>Danalynne Menegus is Head of Marketing Content Production at Boomi. She joined the company in 2018 as Senior Consultant, Marketing Communications. In her current role, she is the editorial lead and manager of Boomi's content production process for external-facing marketing assets, from concept through publication, and manager of the Boomi Blog. She is also the steward of the Boomi brand language and style guide, responsible for sharing standards and reviewing everything from press releases to event signage to ensure consistency in messaging. Her role combines strategy, process management, writing, editing, idea sourcing, resource management and assignment (for a team of internal and freelance/contract writers), editorial calendar management, research, and extensive collaboration with colleagues and stakeholders.</p><p>Danalynne brings with her more than 25 years of B2B experience and expertise in editorial processes, copy editing, messaging, positioning, content strategy, creation and marketing, sales enablement, and much more. She has previously served as Global Product Marketing Lead of Cloud & Virtualization Software Platforms at Dell; Managing Editor of Corporate Event News, an online publication for event professionals; and Director of Marketing at Sybase/SAP.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Portland Leather Goods:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Build a community. </strong>Create a space for customers to come together and spread the word about your brand. Word of mouth is an incredibly effective way to drive sales. Danalynne says, “digital marketing is something that's gotten more and more sophisticated, but if you are going to do it, be smart about it and draw upon a community. Try and build a community because if you can get other people to really love your product and talk about it, evangelize it, then you are going to get many more customers or even just potential interest.”</li><li><strong>Create a sense of exclusivity. </strong>Invite top users to a special community with exclusive benefits and incentives. Danalynne says, “Fear of missing out can go a long way if people feel like they're only going to have a deal for a limited time, or even that you're doing something specially for them, and hopefully you really are, but to me that translates into programs like loyalty programs, or or Customers where, you know, you're a loyal customer. So we're going to give you a discount, or we're going to give you maybe a free pass for an event.”</li><li><strong>Personalize your marketing. </strong>Write to your viewer as if you were talking to them in person, and put your personality in it! Danalynne says, ”Behind every brand, there are people. So even in a B2B marketing outreach or B2B sell, you're still selling to a person. And you want to build those relationships. That's what any good salesperson does, or any community manager or customer advocacy manager, or anybody who has those relationships as part of their job does, because people want to buy from people. So if you personalize [your marketing], that's the best way to market.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”If you're trying to draw people in who know nothing about what you do or your industry or your product, or more importantly, The problems that you can help them solve, you need to lay that out in language that they're going to understand, in the format that they want to consume it in, and on the channel that they want to receive it in.” - Danalynne Menegus</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Danalynne Menegus, Head of Marketing Content Production at Boomi</p><p>[6:09] The Birth and Rise of Portland Leather Goods</p><p>[13:36] Unboxing the Mystery: A Personal Experience with Portland Leather Goods</p><p>[17:26] Marketing Insights: Building a Brand and Community</p><p>[27:31] From Bags to B2B: Marketing Lessons from Portland Leather Goods</p><p>[31:47] Behind the Scenes: Crafting Content at Boomi</p><p>[39:56] Final Thoughts: Humanizing Your Marketing Strategy</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.portlandleathergoods.com/">Check out Portland Leather Goods</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dwmenegus/">Connect with Danalynne on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://boomi.com/">Learn more about Boomi</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Ian Faison, Danalynne Menegus, Meredith Gooderham, Scott Goodrich)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s every marketer’s dream to inspire a cult-like following, but that term is usually used for B2C brands. Until you use the tips from this episode in your marketing.</p><p>We’re pulling inspiration from the leather bag brand that brought in $128M in sales last year, Portland Leather Goods. With the help of our guest, Head of Marketing Production at Boomi, Danalynne Menegus, we’re talking about building a community, creating a sense of exclusivity, and personalizing your marketing.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Danalynne Menegus</strong></p><p>Danalynne Menegus is Head of Marketing Content Production at Boomi. She joined the company in 2018 as Senior Consultant, Marketing Communications. In her current role, she is the editorial lead and manager of Boomi's content production process for external-facing marketing assets, from concept through publication, and manager of the Boomi Blog. She is also the steward of the Boomi brand language and style guide, responsible for sharing standards and reviewing everything from press releases to event signage to ensure consistency in messaging. Her role combines strategy, process management, writing, editing, idea sourcing, resource management and assignment (for a team of internal and freelance/contract writers), editorial calendar management, research, and extensive collaboration with colleagues and stakeholders.</p><p>Danalynne brings with her more than 25 years of B2B experience and expertise in editorial processes, copy editing, messaging, positioning, content strategy, creation and marketing, sales enablement, and much more. She has previously served as Global Product Marketing Lead of Cloud & Virtualization Software Platforms at Dell; Managing Editor of Corporate Event News, an online publication for event professionals; and Director of Marketing at Sybase/SAP.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Portland Leather Goods:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Build a community. </strong>Create a space for customers to come together and spread the word about your brand. Word of mouth is an incredibly effective way to drive sales. Danalynne says, “digital marketing is something that's gotten more and more sophisticated, but if you are going to do it, be smart about it and draw upon a community. Try and build a community because if you can get other people to really love your product and talk about it, evangelize it, then you are going to get many more customers or even just potential interest.”</li><li><strong>Create a sense of exclusivity. </strong>Invite top users to a special community with exclusive benefits and incentives. Danalynne says, “Fear of missing out can go a long way if people feel like they're only going to have a deal for a limited time, or even that you're doing something specially for them, and hopefully you really are, but to me that translates into programs like loyalty programs, or or Customers where, you know, you're a loyal customer. So we're going to give you a discount, or we're going to give you maybe a free pass for an event.”</li><li><strong>Personalize your marketing. </strong>Write to your viewer as if you were talking to them in person, and put your personality in it! Danalynne says, ”Behind every brand, there are people. So even in a B2B marketing outreach or B2B sell, you're still selling to a person. And you want to build those relationships. That's what any good salesperson does, or any community manager or customer advocacy manager, or anybody who has those relationships as part of their job does, because people want to buy from people. So if you personalize [your marketing], that's the best way to market.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”If you're trying to draw people in who know nothing about what you do or your industry or your product, or more importantly, The problems that you can help them solve, you need to lay that out in language that they're going to understand, in the format that they want to consume it in, and on the channel that they want to receive it in.” - Danalynne Menegus</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Danalynne Menegus, Head of Marketing Content Production at Boomi</p><p>[6:09] The Birth and Rise of Portland Leather Goods</p><p>[13:36] Unboxing the Mystery: A Personal Experience with Portland Leather Goods</p><p>[17:26] Marketing Insights: Building a Brand and Community</p><p>[27:31] From Bags to B2B: Marketing Lessons from Portland Leather Goods</p><p>[31:47] Behind the Scenes: Crafting Content at Boomi</p><p>[39:56] Final Thoughts: Humanizing Your Marketing Strategy</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.portlandleathergoods.com/">Check out Portland Leather Goods</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dwmenegus/">Connect with Danalynne on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://boomi.com/">Learn more about Boomi</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Director <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CaDZamA2ok">Christopher Nolan</a> once said:</p><p>“You have to do something that really excites you. It’s the things that you can bring to what you’re doing that maybe not everyone else is doing. That’s what’s going to distinguish the thing.”</p><p>That's the energy we’re taking into this episode of Remarkable. </p><p>Guided by our guest this week, Jellyfish CMO Kyle Lacy, we’re taking marketing lessons from the Oscar-winning director, Christopher Nolan. Together, we talk about mastering each channel, building the day-to-day life of your buyer into your content, and much more.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Kyle Lacy</strong></p><p>Kyle Lacy is CMO at engineering management platform Jellyfish, the pioneer Engineering Management Platform that enables engineering leaders to align engineering work with strategic business objectives. There, he helps engineering leaders translate and maximize the business impact of their teams. Kyle has 17 years of experience in high-growth software. Prior to joining Jellyfish in November 2022, Kyle served as CMO of Lessonly. He has also led marketing at Seismic, OpenView, Salesforce and ExactTarget. He is a published author of three books: Twitter Marketing for Dummies, Branding Yourself, and Social CRM for Dummies. He is a marketing and digital trends speaker, having spoken at marketing and technology industry events around the world on content marketing, collaborative consumption, email marketing, technology trends, and more. He has been recognized as one of Indiana’s Forty-under-40 by the Indianapolis Business Journal, Anderson University’s Young Alumni of the Year and TechPoint’s Young Professional of the Year. But most importantly, he says, he’s the father of two boys, an energetic dog, and one too many books on World War II.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Christopher Nolan:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Master each channel. </strong>Reach a deep understanding of what your audience wants and needs from each channel and create content for it. Kyle says once you've mastered the channels, “you can start creating brand content that is more creative and entertainment oriented and more about the human that's buying the product, not necessarily the product itself.” It’s like how Christopher Nolan has mastered fiction with <i>Memento </i>and <i>Inception </i>and non-fiction with <i>Dunkirk </i>and <i>Oppenheimer</i>. He understands what viewers of each genre are looking for and creates content specifically for them.</li><li><strong>Build the day-to-day life of the buyer into your marketing.</strong> Include different storylines and details in your content so that it shows an understanding of your audience and their lived experience. The more your content clicks with them, the more they’ll remember your brand when they’re ready to buy. Kyle says, “We sell to an engineering leader. There are 500 other things that that engineering leader is dealing with on a day to day basis that might not necessarily pertain to our product, but does lead to exuberance, stress, productivity…the Amazon package being late for his daughter's birthday present. So how do we build more of the day in the life of the buyer into our content? It's the human element that's the most interesting part of marketing.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”When you've mastered your craft and you understand the minute technical details that make it enjoyable, whether that's marketing or producing a movie, you can make decisions and take risks because you understand what the impact will be because you've spent so much time obsessing over it. ” - Kyle Lacy</p><p>*”Christopher Nolan got very lucky that he has a brother that's a very good screenwriter. But he also understands how to surround himself with people that are very good at what they do. And I think part of being a manager - and it doesn't even have to be marketing - is that you have to find the people that truly love their craft and are good at what they do so that the end product, no matter what it is, is the best that you could possibly do.” - Kyle Lacy</p><p>*”Anybody can tune into a podcast about leadership values. And what does it take to be a great manager? Like there's 500 of them because it's easier to do. It's harder to do what we're doing right now. Y'all prepped for a Christopher Nolan-slash-CMO interview. But it's interesting, right? And that's why people like to be on it. That's why people listen to it. And that's, I think, this idea of illogical marketing, right? Like the more illogical you can be, the more creative it is and the more people enjoy it. It's just hard to grasp for a lot of marketers.” - Kyle Lacy</p><p>*”I think the nuance Is how you balance the extremely illogical podcast, weird direct mails, lego building sets, all the stuff that I think surprises and delights people with the other things that might not be as fun and creative but drive business value. And that's where I would love to tell you that there's a framework you should follow. But it's, what is enjoyable to the customer? How do you understand that they like it, whether that's an increase in listeners or shares, or you got more people wanting to be interviewed? And then it's that you're hitting the numbers that you put in front of the board, and that's ultimately the value.” - Kyle Lacy</p><p>*”You kill creativity when you try to apply too much ROI to a project. Doesn't mean you shouldn't track it, doesn't mean there shouldn't be ROI. But you sit down with a creative team and say, ‘Hey, let's think about how many downloads we can get or how much pipeline this thing is going to drive. And they just glaze over. Good creatives glaze over because you're not starting with the most important thing, which is the experience that thing is driving. You can work back, you can figure out the business impact of the thing. And it really depends on the piece of content, right? Like a playbook is going to be different than a podcast.  But I'd like to start with the experience and then back into the business impact because I think it just has more value and people are more creative when you start with the experience.” - Kyle Lacy</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Kyle Lacy, CMO at Jellyfish</p><p>[2:51] Exploring Christopher Nolan's Storytelling Techniques</p><p>[4:45] The Art of Making Complex Narratives Work</p><p>[7:31] Christopher Nolan's Unique Approach to Filmmaking</p><p>[10:14] Applying Nolan's Strategies to B2B Marketing</p><p>[17:47] Drawing Parallels Between Nolan's Work and Marketing</p><p>[18:52] Mastering Different Storytelling Formats</p><p>[21:32] The Human Element in Marketing and Filmmaking</p><p>[23:51] Exploring the Camera as a Character in Marketing</p><p>[24:59] The Human Element: The Core of Marketing and Storytelling</p><p>[26:26] Christopher Nolan's Mastery of Objects in Storytelling</p><p>[28:04] Marketing Lessons from Nolan's Use of Totems</p><p>[29:32] The Power of Mascots and Brand Identity</p><p>[31:33] Creative Choices in Filmmaking: The Case of Bane's Voice</p><p>[39:17] The Challenge of Balancing Creativity and Business Goals</p><p>[43:58] Advice for other CMOs</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kylelacy/">Connect with Kyle on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.jellyfish.com/en-us/">Learn more about Jellyfish</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. 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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Director <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CaDZamA2ok">Christopher Nolan</a> once said:</p><p>“You have to do something that really excites you. It’s the things that you can bring to what you’re doing that maybe not everyone else is doing. That’s what’s going to distinguish the thing.”</p><p>That's the energy we’re taking into this episode of Remarkable. </p><p>Guided by our guest this week, Jellyfish CMO Kyle Lacy, we’re taking marketing lessons from the Oscar-winning director, Christopher Nolan. Together, we talk about mastering each channel, building the day-to-day life of your buyer into your content, and much more.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Kyle Lacy</strong></p><p>Kyle Lacy is CMO at engineering management platform Jellyfish, the pioneer Engineering Management Platform that enables engineering leaders to align engineering work with strategic business objectives. 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How do you understand that they like it, whether that's an increase in listeners or shares, or you got more people wanting to be interviewed? And then it's that you're hitting the numbers that you put in front of the board, and that's ultimately the value.” - Kyle Lacy</p><p>*”You kill creativity when you try to apply too much ROI to a project. Doesn't mean you shouldn't track it, doesn't mean there shouldn't be ROI. But you sit down with a creative team and say, ‘Hey, let's think about how many downloads we can get or how much pipeline this thing is going to drive. And they just glaze over. Good creatives glaze over because you're not starting with the most important thing, which is the experience that thing is driving. You can work back, you can figure out the business impact of the thing. And it really depends on the piece of content, right? Like a playbook is going to be different than a podcast.  But I'd like to start with the experience and then back into the business impact because I think it just has more value and people are more creative when you start with the experience.” - Kyle Lacy</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Kyle Lacy, CMO at Jellyfish</p><p>[2:51] Exploring Christopher Nolan's Storytelling Techniques</p><p>[4:45] The Art of Making Complex Narratives Work</p><p>[7:31] Christopher Nolan's Unique Approach to Filmmaking</p><p>[10:14] Applying Nolan's Strategies to B2B Marketing</p><p>[17:47] Drawing Parallels Between Nolan's Work and Marketing</p><p>[18:52] Mastering Different Storytelling Formats</p><p>[21:32] The Human Element in Marketing and Filmmaking</p><p>[23:51] Exploring the Camera as a Character in Marketing</p><p>[24:59] The Human Element: The Core of Marketing and Storytelling</p><p>[26:26] Christopher Nolan's Mastery of Objects in Storytelling</p><p>[28:04] Marketing Lessons from Nolan's Use of Totems</p><p>[29:32] The Power of Mascots and Brand Identity</p><p>[31:33] Creative Choices in Filmmaking: The Case of Bane's Voice</p><p>[39:17] The Challenge of Balancing Creativity and Business Goals</p><p>[43:58] Advice for other CMOs</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kylelacy/">Connect with Kyle on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.jellyfish.com/en-us/">Learn more about Jellyfish</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. 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That&apos;s the energy we’re taking into this episode of Remarkable. 

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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Marketing is really lovely underneath it all. Sometimes you just need a little inspiration.</p><p>And this week, we’re bringing you marketing lessons from the Grammy-winning and diamond-certified album holders, No Doubt. </p><p>Together, with the help of the Director of Product Marketing at GetResponse, we’re talking about going pop with your content, sharing the good with the bad, and so much more.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Abby Hehemann</strong></p><p>Abby Hehemann is Director of Product Marketing at GetResponse, a comprehensive email marketing platform that provides small businesses, solopreneurs, coaches, and marketers with powerful and affordable tools to grow their audience, engage with their subscribers, and turn subscribers into paying customers. Prior to joining GetResponse in January of 2023, Abby served as Director of Product Marketing at Coursedog. She also spent nearly 9 years in marketing at GetResponse previously. She specializes in strategic product positioning and value-driven messaging. She has a demonstrated history of high impact GTM, lead gen, activation, and retention campaigns. She’s skilled in Digital Marketing, Customer Education, Email Marketing, Marketing Automation, and Content Marketing. She is a customer-first and product-obsessed – with an MBA from the University of Central Arkansas.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>No Doubt:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Go pop with your content (Hint: Use AI). </strong>No Doubt expanded their audience by transitioning from niche ska music to pop. And they did it without losing what made them unique - namely Gwen as an iconic frontwoman and lyrics based on her lived experience. You can expand your audience too by putting out content on new and unique channels you haven’t accessed before and the trick is using AI. Abby says, “Using an AI tool, we could still use our own content, what we wanted to communicate with our unique voice, but experiment with a new format, like a comic book. This is a way we're trying to figure out how to adapt and evolve with new technologies and be more efficient, but in a way that's still foundational to what we care about and the content is still in our voice and our perspective.”</li><li><strong>Share the good with the bad.</strong> Talk about your mistakes and shortcomings as well as your strengths and successes. It builds trust, relatability and likeability. It’s like how No Doubt’s album, <i>Tragic Kingdom,</i> was about Gwen’s breakup with her bassist, Tony. It’s not a positive experience, but it became their diamond-certified album because it spoke to listeners. Abby says, “Not that you need to air all of your mistakes, but the idea of like, that is what authenticity is, right? You share the good with the bad. You share the parts of your life where you're vulnerable. And that's like what artists are doing. It's just something that we don't do in B2B marketing.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Most new startups and SaaS orgs emerge solving a very specific problem for a very specific audience, which is excellent. And that makes you special and unique and have a really strong selling point. But then the next thing is on scaling. How do we do this for more people? And then you have such a risk of diluting what makes you special. If you try to expand, it's super risky. It's risky for you to try to do more often with less and still make a big impact.” - Abby Hehemann</p><p>*”The one with the most customer insights - the one who knows what customers are feeling, what they're saying, what words they're using - you win. You have clout in a meeting. You have the most legitimacy. You should be driving conversations and doing whatever it takes on your team to figure out how to have access to your customers.” - Abby Hehemann</p><p>*”B2B content marketing gets such a bad rap for being a sea of sameness, super boring, not distinctive. Everybody’s talking about driving revenue and getting more leads. And you don't know who's saying it. It doesn't even matter. There's no distinctive tone of voice, point of view, who's talking about what. And I think that definitely points to the need for authenticity. That's what we're craving as humans, even though we're representing companies purchasing software. We're still wanting to make those connections and actually have some element in our brain that recognizes, ‘Oh, this is an actual human being I'm trying to do business with.” - Abby Hehemann</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Abby Hehemann, Director of Product Marketing at GetResponse</p><p>[4:25] The Remarkable Journey of No Doubt: From Ska Band to Pop Icons</p><p>[8:02] Gwen Stefani's Evolution: A Deep Dive into Her Creative Process</p><p>[13:54] No Doubt's Transition to Pop: A Lesson in Authenticity and Branding</p><p>[19:47] B2B Marketing Insights: Drawing Lessons from No Doubt's Success</p><p>[27:03] Decoding the Iconic 'No Doubt' Album Cover</p><p>[28:11] Evolving from Ska to Pop: No Doubt's Musical Journey</p><p>[29:10] Adapting to Market Changes: Lessons from No Doubt</p><p>[29:37] Embracing AI and Generative Content in Marketing</p><p>[30:36] The Power of Email Marketing and User-Generated Content</p><p>[32:25] Innovative Marketing: The Comic Book Experiment</p><p>[34:24] Employer Branding and Gender Representation</p><p>[37:56] Content Strategy Insights from GetResponse</p><p>[47:03] The Future of Content Creation and Marketing</p><p>[51:57] The Essential Role of Customer Insights in Marketing</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/0cQbJU1aAzvbEmTuljWLlF?si=0u_GOG94Tse26QyY0jO9Zw">Listen to No Doubt</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/abby-hehemann/">Connect with Abby on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.getresponse.com/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&camp=US_EN_Search_Brand&kw=Getresponse&type=e&crtn=Brand_Core&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwh4-wBhB3EiwAeJsppBydmUfERy4zozKAYHX4svzHhWJjScDUgcsqGN8Vwdzau0p-CmpSxxoCxL4QAvD_BwE">Learn more about GetResponse</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Mar 2024 09:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Ian Faison, Abby Hehemann, Meredith Gooderham, Scott Goodrich)</author>
      <link>https://www.caspianstudios.com/remarkable</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marketing is really lovely underneath it all. Sometimes you just need a little inspiration.</p><p>And this week, we’re bringing you marketing lessons from the Grammy-winning and diamond-certified album holders, No Doubt. </p><p>Together, with the help of the Director of Product Marketing at GetResponse, we’re talking about going pop with your content, sharing the good with the bad, and so much more.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Abby Hehemann</strong></p><p>Abby Hehemann is Director of Product Marketing at GetResponse, a comprehensive email marketing platform that provides small businesses, solopreneurs, coaches, and marketers with powerful and affordable tools to grow their audience, engage with their subscribers, and turn subscribers into paying customers. Prior to joining GetResponse in January of 2023, Abby served as Director of Product Marketing at Coursedog. She also spent nearly 9 years in marketing at GetResponse previously. She specializes in strategic product positioning and value-driven messaging. She has a demonstrated history of high impact GTM, lead gen, activation, and retention campaigns. She’s skilled in Digital Marketing, Customer Education, Email Marketing, Marketing Automation, and Content Marketing. She is a customer-first and product-obsessed – with an MBA from the University of Central Arkansas.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>No Doubt:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Go pop with your content (Hint: Use AI). </strong>No Doubt expanded their audience by transitioning from niche ska music to pop. And they did it without losing what made them unique - namely Gwen as an iconic frontwoman and lyrics based on her lived experience. You can expand your audience too by putting out content on new and unique channels you haven’t accessed before and the trick is using AI. Abby says, “Using an AI tool, we could still use our own content, what we wanted to communicate with our unique voice, but experiment with a new format, like a comic book. This is a way we're trying to figure out how to adapt and evolve with new technologies and be more efficient, but in a way that's still foundational to what we care about and the content is still in our voice and our perspective.”</li><li><strong>Share the good with the bad.</strong> Talk about your mistakes and shortcomings as well as your strengths and successes. It builds trust, relatability and likeability. It’s like how No Doubt’s album, <i>Tragic Kingdom,</i> was about Gwen’s breakup with her bassist, Tony. It’s not a positive experience, but it became their diamond-certified album because it spoke to listeners. Abby says, “Not that you need to air all of your mistakes, but the idea of like, that is what authenticity is, right? You share the good with the bad. You share the parts of your life where you're vulnerable. And that's like what artists are doing. It's just something that we don't do in B2B marketing.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Most new startups and SaaS orgs emerge solving a very specific problem for a very specific audience, which is excellent. And that makes you special and unique and have a really strong selling point. But then the next thing is on scaling. How do we do this for more people? And then you have such a risk of diluting what makes you special. If you try to expand, it's super risky. It's risky for you to try to do more often with less and still make a big impact.” - Abby Hehemann</p><p>*”The one with the most customer insights - the one who knows what customers are feeling, what they're saying, what words they're using - you win. You have clout in a meeting. You have the most legitimacy. You should be driving conversations and doing whatever it takes on your team to figure out how to have access to your customers.” - Abby Hehemann</p><p>*”B2B content marketing gets such a bad rap for being a sea of sameness, super boring, not distinctive. Everybody’s talking about driving revenue and getting more leads. And you don't know who's saying it. It doesn't even matter. There's no distinctive tone of voice, point of view, who's talking about what. And I think that definitely points to the need for authenticity. That's what we're craving as humans, even though we're representing companies purchasing software. We're still wanting to make those connections and actually have some element in our brain that recognizes, ‘Oh, this is an actual human being I'm trying to do business with.” - Abby Hehemann</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Abby Hehemann, Director of Product Marketing at GetResponse</p><p>[4:25] The Remarkable Journey of No Doubt: From Ska Band to Pop Icons</p><p>[8:02] Gwen Stefani's Evolution: A Deep Dive into Her Creative Process</p><p>[13:54] No Doubt's Transition to Pop: A Lesson in Authenticity and Branding</p><p>[19:47] B2B Marketing Insights: Drawing Lessons from No Doubt's Success</p><p>[27:03] Decoding the Iconic 'No Doubt' Album Cover</p><p>[28:11] Evolving from Ska to Pop: No Doubt's Musical Journey</p><p>[29:10] Adapting to Market Changes: Lessons from No Doubt</p><p>[29:37] Embracing AI and Generative Content in Marketing</p><p>[30:36] The Power of Email Marketing and User-Generated Content</p><p>[32:25] Innovative Marketing: The Comic Book Experiment</p><p>[34:24] Employer Branding and Gender Representation</p><p>[37:56] Content Strategy Insights from GetResponse</p><p>[47:03] The Future of Content Creation and Marketing</p><p>[51:57] The Essential Role of Customer Insights in Marketing</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/0cQbJU1aAzvbEmTuljWLlF?si=0u_GOG94Tse26QyY0jO9Zw">Listen to No Doubt</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/abby-hehemann/">Connect with Abby on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.getresponse.com/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&camp=US_EN_Search_Brand&kw=Getresponse&type=e&crtn=Brand_Core&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwh4-wBhB3EiwAeJsppBydmUfERy4zozKAYHX4svzHhWJjScDUgcsqGN8Vwdzau0p-CmpSxxoCxL4QAvD_BwE">Learn more about GetResponse</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>The Godfather: B2B Marketing Lessons from Francis Ford Coppola’s Masterpiece with Director of Content, Digital Marketing &amp; PR at Nexthink, Thomas McGrath</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>When do you put together a campaign and think, “This is my masterpiece”? </p><p>You probably just need some inspiration. And today, that inspiration is coming from Francis Ford Coppola who created his masterpiece in 1972. </p><p>So in this episode, we’re gonna make you an offer you can’t refuse.</p><p>We’re bringing you marketing lessons from <i>The Godfather</i> with the help of our guest, Director of Content, Digital Marketing & PR at Nexthink, Thomas McGrath. </p><p>Together, we talk about appealing to your internal audience first, nailing the ending, and much more.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Thomas McGrath</strong></p><p>Thomas McGrath is Director of Content, Digital Marketing & PR at Nexthink, the leader in digital employee experience management software, and co-host of their DEX Show podcast, where he discusses the latest advancements in digital workplace experience with leading industry experts and his colleague Tim Flower. Thomas has been with Nexthink for over 4 years, having started in August 2019 as a Content Strategist. Previously, he served as Head of Content & PR at 1E. He has also led Content at Informa.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> The Godfather</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Appeal to your internal audience first. </strong>Run your content by your colleagues before posting or publishing it. They’re like your “family”. Their reaction is a good indicator of how your content will perform out in the wild. Tom says, “If you're not creating enthusiasm and interest internally, with people who are going to be most naturally curious about what you're talking about and most invested in its success, how can you hope to begin to appeal to an external audience?” </li><li><strong>Nail the ending. </strong>No spoilers here, but it’s important to wrap up your content and satisfy the need for a resolution. Ian says, “The ending of <i>The Godfather </i>is one of the most satisfying. The idea to have this massive, big,  satisfying ending I think is something that marketers can really think about with their campaigns, events or content. To be able to finish something with a lot of wrapping paper and having some big pizazz or big show. They landed the plane. And if they didn't land the plane, nobody would ever have remembered <i>The Godfather </i>as the best movie of all time.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”You shouldn't have to point to your own success and explain it or justify it. It should be self-evident internally that it's been successful.” - Tom McGrath</p><p>*”Humanize your material. It's an absolutely vital part of marketing and I think that's where content marketers can come into their own. It's the difference between vehicles that are there to convey information, which absolutely have their place. The importance of web pages, explanatory videos, and assets such as podcasting, surveys, social media. Where you're trying to create interest and engagement or put a literal human face or voice on a story or a message is incredibly powerful.” - Tom McGrath</p><p>*”Sometimes marketers can be too nervous about upsetting people, which sounds like a paradox, right? When I say the most important people to impress are your colleagues and most important people to engage and involve in what you're doing are your colleagues. That doesn't necessarily mean they dictate the way you tell their story.” - Tom McGrath</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Thomas McGrath, Director of Content, Digital Marketing & PR at Nexthink</p><p>[3:04] <i>The Godfather</i>: A Cinematic Masterpiece Explored</p><p>[9:30] Behind the Scenes: The Making of <i>The Godfather</i></p><p>[15:11]<i> The Godfather </i>and Marketing: Drawing Parallels</p><p>[19:06] Marketing Insights from <i>The Godfather</i>: Internal vs. External Focus</p><p>[24:50] The Vulnerability and Importance of Marketing Within Organizations</p><p>[27:38] Drawing Parallels: Marketing Dynamics and <i>The Godfather</i>'s Succession Plan</p><p>[34:06] Marketing Insights from <i>The Godfather</i>: Nailing the Ending and Humanizing Content</p><p>[45:03] Content Marketing Strategies and Success Stories</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.64a9f786-efb1-28d3-bf27-6038d12cc53a?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch <i>The Godfather</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mcgraththomas/">Connect with Thomas on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.nexthink.com/platform?utm_content=RSA&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=nexthink&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwwYSwBhDcARIsAOyL0fhMp7Jx8dELJ0olXo0xdkPhgyJ9-VsGM8G7PQhyF2jgetA1d_1R1BQaAqxEEALw_wcB">Learn more about Nexthink</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 26 Mar 2024 09:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Ian Faison, Thomas McGrath, Meredith Gooderham, Scott Goodrich)</author>
      <link>https://www.caspianstudios.com/remarkable</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When do you put together a campaign and think, “This is my masterpiece”? </p><p>You probably just need some inspiration. And today, that inspiration is coming from Francis Ford Coppola who created his masterpiece in 1972. </p><p>So in this episode, we’re gonna make you an offer you can’t refuse.</p><p>We’re bringing you marketing lessons from <i>The Godfather</i> with the help of our guest, Director of Content, Digital Marketing & PR at Nexthink, Thomas McGrath. </p><p>Together, we talk about appealing to your internal audience first, nailing the ending, and much more.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Thomas McGrath</strong></p><p>Thomas McGrath is Director of Content, Digital Marketing & PR at Nexthink, the leader in digital employee experience management software, and co-host of their DEX Show podcast, where he discusses the latest advancements in digital workplace experience with leading industry experts and his colleague Tim Flower. Thomas has been with Nexthink for over 4 years, having started in August 2019 as a Content Strategist. Previously, he served as Head of Content & PR at 1E. He has also led Content at Informa.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> The Godfather</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Appeal to your internal audience first. </strong>Run your content by your colleagues before posting or publishing it. They’re like your “family”. Their reaction is a good indicator of how your content will perform out in the wild. Tom says, “If you're not creating enthusiasm and interest internally, with people who are going to be most naturally curious about what you're talking about and most invested in its success, how can you hope to begin to appeal to an external audience?” </li><li><strong>Nail the ending. </strong>No spoilers here, but it’s important to wrap up your content and satisfy the need for a resolution. Ian says, “The ending of <i>The Godfather </i>is one of the most satisfying. The idea to have this massive, big,  satisfying ending I think is something that marketers can really think about with their campaigns, events or content. To be able to finish something with a lot of wrapping paper and having some big pizazz or big show. They landed the plane. And if they didn't land the plane, nobody would ever have remembered <i>The Godfather </i>as the best movie of all time.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”You shouldn't have to point to your own success and explain it or justify it. It should be self-evident internally that it's been successful.” - Tom McGrath</p><p>*”Humanize your material. It's an absolutely vital part of marketing and I think that's where content marketers can come into their own. It's the difference between vehicles that are there to convey information, which absolutely have their place. The importance of web pages, explanatory videos, and assets such as podcasting, surveys, social media. Where you're trying to create interest and engagement or put a literal human face or voice on a story or a message is incredibly powerful.” - Tom McGrath</p><p>*”Sometimes marketers can be too nervous about upsetting people, which sounds like a paradox, right? When I say the most important people to impress are your colleagues and most important people to engage and involve in what you're doing are your colleagues. That doesn't necessarily mean they dictate the way you tell their story.” - Tom McGrath</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Thomas McGrath, Director of Content, Digital Marketing & PR at Nexthink</p><p>[3:04] <i>The Godfather</i>: A Cinematic Masterpiece Explored</p><p>[9:30] Behind the Scenes: The Making of <i>The Godfather</i></p><p>[15:11]<i> The Godfather </i>and Marketing: Drawing Parallels</p><p>[19:06] Marketing Insights from <i>The Godfather</i>: Internal vs. External Focus</p><p>[24:50] The Vulnerability and Importance of Marketing Within Organizations</p><p>[27:38] Drawing Parallels: Marketing Dynamics and <i>The Godfather</i>'s Succession Plan</p><p>[34:06] Marketing Insights from <i>The Godfather</i>: Nailing the Ending and Humanizing Content</p><p>[45:03] Content Marketing Strategies and Success Stories</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.64a9f786-efb1-28d3-bf27-6038d12cc53a?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch <i>The Godfather</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mcgraththomas/">Connect with Thomas on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.nexthink.com/platform?utm_content=RSA&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=nexthink&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwwYSwBhDcARIsAOyL0fhMp7Jx8dELJ0olXo0xdkPhgyJ9-VsGM8G7PQhyF2jgetA1d_1R1BQaAqxEEALw_wcB">Learn more about Nexthink</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>When do you put together a campaign and think, “This is my masterpiece”? 

You probably just need some inspiration. And today, that inspiration is coming from Francis Ford Coppola who created his masterpiece in 1972. 

So in this episode, we’re gonna make you an offer you can’t refuse.

We’re bringing you marketing lessons from The Godfather with the help of our guest, Director of Content, Digital Marketing &amp; PR at Nexthink, Thomas McGrath. 

Together, we talk about appealing to your internal audience first, nailing the ending, and much more.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>When do you put together a campaign and think, “This is my masterpiece”? 

You probably just need some inspiration. And today, that inspiration is coming from Francis Ford Coppola who created his masterpiece in 1972. 

So in this episode, we’re gonna make you an offer you can’t refuse.

We’re bringing you marketing lessons from The Godfather with the help of our guest, Director of Content, Digital Marketing &amp; PR at Nexthink, Thomas McGrath. 

Together, we talk about appealing to your internal audience first, nailing the ending, and much more.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>You can control your content. But you can’t control who sees it.</p><p>That’s why you need to write both for your niche audience and the general public.</p><p>Though writing for both is tricky, in this episode, we’re learning from the masters.</p><p>We’re talking about Monty Python and the Holy Grail with the help of our guest, Emmanuel “Manu” Cohen, VP of Marketing at Walnut.io.</p><p>Together, we talk about making your weakness the cornerstone of your content, being down-to-earth and using self-deprecating humor, and writing for both your niche audience as well as the general public.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Emmanuel Cohen</strong></p><p>Manu leads marketing at Walnut.io. He worked for 7 years at Wix, where he managed the social presence and blogs - and took part in 5 Super Bowl campaigns. He has also spoken about social media content at many marketing events, including Social Media Week. Most recently, Manu created an employer branding video for Walnut that went viral in Israel (and did it in less than a week).</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Monty Python and the Holy Grail</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Make your weakness the cornerstone of your content.</strong> Ian says, “What [Monty Python] did was they took their biggest weakness, which is ‘We don't have a lot of money.’ How do you tell a medieval story without horses? That’s when they had this crazy idea for the coconuts. So instead of coming up with this crazy idea and making it a gag once and that's it, they built it as a cornerstone of the story.” And Manu points out that the coconuts became a running gag, which is a tactic marketers can use, too. He says, “I think people enjoy the wink, you know? ‘Oh, I know what they are referencing.’ It creates an emotional connection.” When you not only acknowledge your shortcomings but commit to highlighting them, they become a point of definition and differentiation. Iconic, even. So stand out from the other B2B content by making your weaknesses your strengths.</li><li><strong>Be down-to-earth (and maybe even a little self-deprecating.)</strong> Manu says, “I can't hear someone telling me another time that there is cutting-edge technology that's going to revolutionize an industry. I read this sentence so many times that it's like, ‘Come on,’ you know? Show some self-derision and take yourself a nudge down. Be honest about what you are trying to do instead of being pompous, trying to oversell and to show your muscles. I think it worked 20 years ago. Today, it doesn't work. Today, you need to talk to your audience honestly.” It’s like how though the members of Monty Python were well-educated, having gone to Oxford and Cambridge, they used plenty of low-brow and self-deprecating humor. So when you’re writing content, keep in mind that people easily sniff out hyperbole. So be real in your content, especially about what your product does - or doesn’t - do. </li><li><strong>Write for both your niche audience and the general public.</strong> In other words, appeal to both the human and the industry specialist. Manu says, “[Monty Python] knows their topic. And this is the very basis of their success. They know the story [of King Arthur] very well. They know the time very well. They know the history very well. And then they can make jokes that are on one side that address people who understand what they are talking about. And on the other hand, they need to make jokes that are large enough to address a wide audience.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”When you think about all the creative work that everyone is doing, they’re spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on each video so it looks good. But you don't care if it looks good if the story is right. The creativity needs to be there, but you don't need to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to make good creative work.” - Manu Cohen</p><p>*”The absolute genius is that instead of taking the lack of budget as a problem, they turn it to their advantage, right? Por them, it's an opportunity to be more creative.” - Manu Cohen</p><p>*”Creativity has outsized results. Boring stuff does not have outsized results. Boring things don't go viral.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”Find the crazy thing and pull the thread. Find your version of the coconut. Continue going with that as far as you can go.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”People are trying too hard to sell the benefits, when in fact benefits are not really important. What people try to solve are pains. So solve a pain with a good story.” - Manu Cohen</p><p>*”Owning the story is much more powerful than selling a feature or even selling a product. The story is your ‘why.’ Why you do stuff. And people connect with that.” - Manu Cohen</p><p>*”What we're trying to do is always do more. And always trying to create a motion that moves toward more creativity, even if it means a huge failure, right? Because first of all, failure is learning. And second, because you have more of a chance of getting better by trying and failing than by not trying at all. Or by trying what everyone else is doing, which is boring because everyone else is playing it safe. But it's boring. You need to try stuff, to take risks.” - Manu Cohen</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Emmanuel “Manu” Cohen, VP of Marketing at Walnut.io</p><p>[2:59] Exploring the Genius of Monty Python and the Holy Grail</p><p>[6:48] Manu's Marketing Insights Inspired by Monty Python</p><p>[15:01] Breaking the Mold: Creative Marketing on a Budget</p><p>[16:57] The Power of Creativity Over Budget in Marketing</p><p>[24:38] Embracing Humor in Marketing</p><p>[27:11] The Power of Storytelling and Creativity</p><p>[28:37] Leveraging Absurdity and Running Gags</p><p>[31:41] Building Emotional Connections Through Stories</p><p>[34:12] The Importance of Taking Risks in Marketing</p><p>[41:18] Content Strategy and the ROI of Creativity</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.60b4a834-49c5-4e48-c351-2c32e9d4fd5d?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch Monty Python and the Holy Grail</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/cohenemmanuel/">Connect with Manu on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="http://walnut.io/">Learn more about Walnut.io</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 21 Mar 2024 09:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can control your content. But you can’t control who sees it.</p><p>That’s why you need to write both for your niche audience and the general public.</p><p>Though writing for both is tricky, in this episode, we’re learning from the masters.</p><p>We’re talking about Monty Python and the Holy Grail with the help of our guest, Emmanuel “Manu” Cohen, VP of Marketing at Walnut.io.</p><p>Together, we talk about making your weakness the cornerstone of your content, being down-to-earth and using self-deprecating humor, and writing for both your niche audience as well as the general public.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Emmanuel Cohen</strong></p><p>Manu leads marketing at Walnut.io. He worked for 7 years at Wix, where he managed the social presence and blogs - and took part in 5 Super Bowl campaigns. He has also spoken about social media content at many marketing events, including Social Media Week. Most recently, Manu created an employer branding video for Walnut that went viral in Israel (and did it in less than a week).</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Monty Python and the Holy Grail</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Make your weakness the cornerstone of your content.</strong> Ian says, “What [Monty Python] did was they took their biggest weakness, which is ‘We don't have a lot of money.’ How do you tell a medieval story without horses? That’s when they had this crazy idea for the coconuts. So instead of coming up with this crazy idea and making it a gag once and that's it, they built it as a cornerstone of the story.” And Manu points out that the coconuts became a running gag, which is a tactic marketers can use, too. He says, “I think people enjoy the wink, you know? ‘Oh, I know what they are referencing.’ It creates an emotional connection.” When you not only acknowledge your shortcomings but commit to highlighting them, they become a point of definition and differentiation. Iconic, even. So stand out from the other B2B content by making your weaknesses your strengths.</li><li><strong>Be down-to-earth (and maybe even a little self-deprecating.)</strong> Manu says, “I can't hear someone telling me another time that there is cutting-edge technology that's going to revolutionize an industry. I read this sentence so many times that it's like, ‘Come on,’ you know? Show some self-derision and take yourself a nudge down. Be honest about what you are trying to do instead of being pompous, trying to oversell and to show your muscles. I think it worked 20 years ago. Today, it doesn't work. Today, you need to talk to your audience honestly.” It’s like how though the members of Monty Python were well-educated, having gone to Oxford and Cambridge, they used plenty of low-brow and self-deprecating humor. So when you’re writing content, keep in mind that people easily sniff out hyperbole. So be real in your content, especially about what your product does - or doesn’t - do. </li><li><strong>Write for both your niche audience and the general public.</strong> In other words, appeal to both the human and the industry specialist. Manu says, “[Monty Python] knows their topic. And this is the very basis of their success. They know the story [of King Arthur] very well. They know the time very well. They know the history very well. And then they can make jokes that are on one side that address people who understand what they are talking about. And on the other hand, they need to make jokes that are large enough to address a wide audience.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”When you think about all the creative work that everyone is doing, they’re spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on each video so it looks good. But you don't care if it looks good if the story is right. The creativity needs to be there, but you don't need to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to make good creative work.” - Manu Cohen</p><p>*”The absolute genius is that instead of taking the lack of budget as a problem, they turn it to their advantage, right? Por them, it's an opportunity to be more creative.” - Manu Cohen</p><p>*”Creativity has outsized results. Boring stuff does not have outsized results. Boring things don't go viral.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”Find the crazy thing and pull the thread. Find your version of the coconut. Continue going with that as far as you can go.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”People are trying too hard to sell the benefits, when in fact benefits are not really important. What people try to solve are pains. So solve a pain with a good story.” - Manu Cohen</p><p>*”Owning the story is much more powerful than selling a feature or even selling a product. The story is your ‘why.’ Why you do stuff. And people connect with that.” - Manu Cohen</p><p>*”What we're trying to do is always do more. And always trying to create a motion that moves toward more creativity, even if it means a huge failure, right? Because first of all, failure is learning. And second, because you have more of a chance of getting better by trying and failing than by not trying at all. Or by trying what everyone else is doing, which is boring because everyone else is playing it safe. But it's boring. You need to try stuff, to take risks.” - Manu Cohen</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Emmanuel “Manu” Cohen, VP of Marketing at Walnut.io</p><p>[2:59] Exploring the Genius of Monty Python and the Holy Grail</p><p>[6:48] Manu's Marketing Insights Inspired by Monty Python</p><p>[15:01] Breaking the Mold: Creative Marketing on a Budget</p><p>[16:57] The Power of Creativity Over Budget in Marketing</p><p>[24:38] Embracing Humor in Marketing</p><p>[27:11] The Power of Storytelling and Creativity</p><p>[28:37] Leveraging Absurdity and Running Gags</p><p>[31:41] Building Emotional Connections Through Stories</p><p>[34:12] The Importance of Taking Risks in Marketing</p><p>[41:18] Content Strategy and the ROI of Creativity</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.60b4a834-49c5-4e48-c351-2c32e9d4fd5d?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch Monty Python and the Holy Grail</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/cohenemmanuel/">Connect with Manu on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="http://walnut.io/">Learn more about Walnut.io</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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That’s why you need to write both for your niche audience and the general public.

Though writing for both is tricky, in this episode, we’re learning from the masters. 

We’re talking about Monty Python and the Holy Grail with the help of our guest, Emmanuel “Manu” Cohen, VP of Marketing at Walnut.io.

Together, we talk about making your weakness the cornerstone of your content, being down-to-earth and using self-deprecating humor, and writing for both your niche audience as well as the general public.</itunes:summary>
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That’s why you need to write both for your niche audience and the general public.

Though writing for both is tricky, in this episode, we’re learning from the masters. 

We’re talking about Monty Python and the Holy Grail with the help of our guest, Emmanuel “Manu” Cohen, VP of Marketing at Walnut.io.

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      <description><![CDATA[<p>What do you want your audience to understand about your brand? </p><p>Ask this question with every piece of content you create. Because you want to drive home a specific message. </p><p>If it’s not doing the job, you need to synthesize the information for your audience. Distill your message to show the value and benefits of your product. </p><p>It’s how you cut through the noise and capture the attention of your audience. </p><p>That’s what we’re talking about today with the help of Sproutloud’s Director of Demand Generation, Aaron Morrissey. </p><p>Together, we watch <i>Parts Unknown</i> and chat about lessons we can take from Anthony Bourdain, including being yourself in your content and synthesizing your message. </p><p><strong>About our guest, Aaron Morrissey</strong></p><p>Aaron Morrissey is the Director of Demand Generation at Sproutloud Media Networks, where he works with enterprise clients to help them launch, manage, and optimize digital campaigns across their distributed network. He joined the company in November of 2022. Prior to his current role, he served as Director of Demand Gen at Topia. He is also a content creator for HockeyStack and other B2B SaaS brands.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Parts Unknown</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Be the same person in your content as you are in real life.</strong> Show that there’s a real person behind the content you’re creating, not some corporate bot. So breathe personality and soul into your content. Aaron says, “When the cameras turned on from when the cameras turned off, [Anthony Bourdain] was the same person. If I'm the same person all around, people will start to either  gravitate toward that or realize that I'm not their cup of tea. People talk so much about authenticity. The real authenticity is truly not being afraid of the consequences of being yourself.” </li><li><strong>Synthesize your message</strong> to drive home the point you’re making. Supplement the visuals with a carefully crafted narrative in your voice that explains what you want your audience to understand. Ian says, “[Anthony Bourdain] brings you into a world that you don't know anything about. And he's giving you these visuals and these conversations. But then he's also synthesizing the information for you in an extremely tight narrative so that he's hammering home the point of what you're seeing with a very clear lesson in every episode. It’s what makes it so brilliant.”</li></ul><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Aaron Morrissey, Director of Demand Generation at Sproutloud</p><p>[1:47] Exploring the Uncompromising Creativity of <i>Parts Unknown</i></p><p>[5:36] Aaron Morrissey's Journey: From Content Creation to Demand Generation</p><p>[7:47] The Essence and Impact of Anthony Bourdain's <i>Parts Unknown</i></p><p>[15:22] Crafting a Personal Brand: Insights from Anthony Bourdain's Legacy</p><p>[19:24] The Art of Content Creation: Learning from Bourdain's Approach</p><p>[21:09] Synthesizing Information: The Key to Engaging Content</p><p>[24:45] Exploring Culinary Delights and Conversational Skills</p><p>[25:35] The Art of Storytelling in <i>Parts Unknown</i></p><p>[27:12] Anthony Bourdain's Legacy and the Power of Serialized Content</p><p>[28:18] The Impact of Following Bourdain's Footsteps</p><p>[30:35] Creative Evolution and the Importance of Authenticity</p><p>[36:49] Marketing Strategies and the Future of Content Creation</p><p>[47:06] Predictions on the Future of the Creator World and B2B Content</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.d197e31b-fd25-4364-8a21-86a549e40196?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch <i>Parts Unknown</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/aaron-morrissey000/">Connect with Aaron on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://sproutloud.com/">Learn more about Sproutloud</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you want your audience to understand about your brand? </p><p>Ask this question with every piece of content you create. Because you want to drive home a specific message. </p><p>If it’s not doing the job, you need to synthesize the information for your audience. Distill your message to show the value and benefits of your product. </p><p>It’s how you cut through the noise and capture the attention of your audience. </p><p>That’s what we’re talking about today with the help of Sproutloud’s Director of Demand Generation, Aaron Morrissey. </p><p>Together, we watch <i>Parts Unknown</i> and chat about lessons we can take from Anthony Bourdain, including being yourself in your content and synthesizing your message. </p><p><strong>About our guest, Aaron Morrissey</strong></p><p>Aaron Morrissey is the Director of Demand Generation at Sproutloud Media Networks, where he works with enterprise clients to help them launch, manage, and optimize digital campaigns across their distributed network. He joined the company in November of 2022. Prior to his current role, he served as Director of Demand Gen at Topia. He is also a content creator for HockeyStack and other B2B SaaS brands.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Parts Unknown</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Be the same person in your content as you are in real life.</strong> Show that there’s a real person behind the content you’re creating, not some corporate bot. So breathe personality and soul into your content. Aaron says, “When the cameras turned on from when the cameras turned off, [Anthony Bourdain] was the same person. If I'm the same person all around, people will start to either  gravitate toward that or realize that I'm not their cup of tea. People talk so much about authenticity. The real authenticity is truly not being afraid of the consequences of being yourself.” </li><li><strong>Synthesize your message</strong> to drive home the point you’re making. Supplement the visuals with a carefully crafted narrative in your voice that explains what you want your audience to understand. Ian says, “[Anthony Bourdain] brings you into a world that you don't know anything about. And he's giving you these visuals and these conversations. But then he's also synthesizing the information for you in an extremely tight narrative so that he's hammering home the point of what you're seeing with a very clear lesson in every episode. It’s what makes it so brilliant.”</li></ul><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Aaron Morrissey, Director of Demand Generation at Sproutloud</p><p>[1:47] Exploring the Uncompromising Creativity of <i>Parts Unknown</i></p><p>[5:36] Aaron Morrissey's Journey: From Content Creation to Demand Generation</p><p>[7:47] The Essence and Impact of Anthony Bourdain's <i>Parts Unknown</i></p><p>[15:22] Crafting a Personal Brand: Insights from Anthony Bourdain's Legacy</p><p>[19:24] The Art of Content Creation: Learning from Bourdain's Approach</p><p>[21:09] Synthesizing Information: The Key to Engaging Content</p><p>[24:45] Exploring Culinary Delights and Conversational Skills</p><p>[25:35] The Art of Storytelling in <i>Parts Unknown</i></p><p>[27:12] Anthony Bourdain's Legacy and the Power of Serialized Content</p><p>[28:18] The Impact of Following Bourdain's Footsteps</p><p>[30:35] Creative Evolution and the Importance of Authenticity</p><p>[36:49] Marketing Strategies and the Future of Content Creation</p><p>[47:06] Predictions on the Future of the Creator World and B2B Content</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.d197e31b-fd25-4364-8a21-86a549e40196?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch <i>Parts Unknown</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/aaron-morrissey000/">Connect with Aaron on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://sproutloud.com/">Learn more about Sproutloud</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>What do you want your audience to understand about your brand? 

Ask this question with every piece of content you create. Because you want to drive home a specific message. 

If it’s not doing the job, you need to synthesize the information for your audience. Distill your message to show the value and benefits of your product. 

It’s how you cut through the noise and capture the attention of your audience. 

That’s what we’re talking about today with the help of Sproutloud’s Director of Demand Generation, Aaron Morrissey. 

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It’s how you cut through the noise and capture the attention of your audience. 

That’s what we’re talking about today with the help of Sproutloud’s Director of Demand Generation, Aaron Morrissey. 

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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Your content should haunt your audience.</p><p>Not in a spooky kind of way. But in a way where it sticks with them and they think about it later. </p><p>So in this episode, we’re helping you revive your content strategy.</p><p>We’re talking about <i>Ghosts</i>, the U.K. TV series, with the help of special guest, Director of Content Strategy at Acquia, Courtney Roe. </p><p>Together, we talk about infusing your core values in your content, adapting to appeal to new audiences, and multiplying your content-creating power.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Courtney Roe</strong></p><p>Courtney Roe is Director of Content Strategy at Acquia, a cloud platform for building, delivering and optimizing websites. She joined the company in January of 2023. Prior to her current role, she served as Director of Content Strategy for Widen, an Acquia company, where she spent over six years in different roles. She also has experience in merchandising, having worked at L.L. Bean and Kohl’s. </p><p>What B2B Companies Can Learn From<i> Ghosts</i>:</p><ul><li>Infuse your core values in your content. Use them as a foundation that brands your content as uniquely your own. Courtney says this is important especially if you’re migrating content after an acquisition. She says, “For any product or company that has been acquired, you're going to have to ultimately give a little bit in order to fit into the new world that they're creating. But if you have a strong foundation and really know who you are at your core, you're not going to lose that foundation, even if your name and your branding need to change along the way.” It’s like how <i>Ghosts</i> U.K. was also adapted for a U.S. audience but is still built on the same foundation.</li><li>Adapt to appeal to new audiences. As your brand grows, research your new target audiences and run tests to see what content resonates with them. Courtney says, “You need to find that right mix of what worked for your initial audience and then how it might need to shift to appeal to a new one. And then also just like learning from others that came before you.” There are undoubtedly differences between the U.K. and U.S. versions of <i>Ghosts</i> based on the style of TV series already popular in each market.</li><li>Multiply your content-creating power by splitting up your marketing team and brainstorming new content ideas individually. Then regroup and share. This way you get an exponential increase in ideas compared to brainstorming as a group. Ian says, “I’ve found after doing hundreds of brainstorms with B2B marketing teams specifically that It's really important to do. But it also can be challenging, especially remotely, and that usually you're fitting in between meetings or whatever. But I think it is really important to let people go build something themselves and then bring it up to the larger team.” This is how the six writers behind <i>Ghosts</i> came up with ideas for each episode. Co-creator Mathew Baynton said, “It’s productive and fast – you get six first drafts in about the same time as you’d normally get one.” Divide and conquer!</li></ul><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Courtney Roe, Director of Content Strategy Acquia</p><p>[4:14] What is <i>Ghosts</i> about?</p><p>[7:58] Behind the Scenes: Creating <i>Ghosts</i></p><p>[13:44] Applying <i>Ghosts</i>' Lessons to B2B Marketing</p><p>[15:41] The Collaborative Writing Process of Ghosts</p><p>[17:41] Building Trust and Cohesion in B2B Marketing</p><p>[20:19] Exploring Character Influence in Creative Writing</p><p>[20:50] The Role of UX and Audience Understanding in Product Marketing</p><p>[21:33] B2B Marketing Insights from the Show 'Ghosts'</p><p>[22:13] Adapting and Knowing Your Audience in Business</p><p>[22:58] Learning from Adaptation: TV Shows and Business Strategies</p><p>[23:50] Merging Marketing Visions in Business Acquisitions</p><p>[26:01] Content Strategy and Creativity in B2B Marketing</p><p>[34:00] Content Strategy at Acquia</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B0CLHDD4WK/ref=atv_hm_hom_c_lZOsi7_2_1?jic=8%7CEgNhbGw%3D">Watch <i>Ghosts U.K.</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/courtneyroe/">Connect with Courtney on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.acquia.com/">Learn more about Acquia</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your content should haunt your audience.</p><p>Not in a spooky kind of way. But in a way where it sticks with them and they think about it later. </p><p>So in this episode, we’re helping you revive your content strategy.</p><p>We’re talking about <i>Ghosts</i>, the U.K. TV series, with the help of special guest, Director of Content Strategy at Acquia, Courtney Roe. </p><p>Together, we talk about infusing your core values in your content, adapting to appeal to new audiences, and multiplying your content-creating power.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Courtney Roe</strong></p><p>Courtney Roe is Director of Content Strategy at Acquia, a cloud platform for building, delivering and optimizing websites. She joined the company in January of 2023. Prior to her current role, she served as Director of Content Strategy for Widen, an Acquia company, where she spent over six years in different roles. She also has experience in merchandising, having worked at L.L. Bean and Kohl’s. </p><p>What B2B Companies Can Learn From<i> Ghosts</i>:</p><ul><li>Infuse your core values in your content. Use them as a foundation that brands your content as uniquely your own. Courtney says this is important especially if you’re migrating content after an acquisition. She says, “For any product or company that has been acquired, you're going to have to ultimately give a little bit in order to fit into the new world that they're creating. But if you have a strong foundation and really know who you are at your core, you're not going to lose that foundation, even if your name and your branding need to change along the way.” It’s like how <i>Ghosts</i> U.K. was also adapted for a U.S. audience but is still built on the same foundation.</li><li>Adapt to appeal to new audiences. As your brand grows, research your new target audiences and run tests to see what content resonates with them. Courtney says, “You need to find that right mix of what worked for your initial audience and then how it might need to shift to appeal to a new one. And then also just like learning from others that came before you.” There are undoubtedly differences between the U.K. and U.S. versions of <i>Ghosts</i> based on the style of TV series already popular in each market.</li><li>Multiply your content-creating power by splitting up your marketing team and brainstorming new content ideas individually. Then regroup and share. This way you get an exponential increase in ideas compared to brainstorming as a group. Ian says, “I’ve found after doing hundreds of brainstorms with B2B marketing teams specifically that It's really important to do. But it also can be challenging, especially remotely, and that usually you're fitting in between meetings or whatever. But I think it is really important to let people go build something themselves and then bring it up to the larger team.” This is how the six writers behind <i>Ghosts</i> came up with ideas for each episode. Co-creator Mathew Baynton said, “It’s productive and fast – you get six first drafts in about the same time as you’d normally get one.” Divide and conquer!</li></ul><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Courtney Roe, Director of Content Strategy Acquia</p><p>[4:14] What is <i>Ghosts</i> about?</p><p>[7:58] Behind the Scenes: Creating <i>Ghosts</i></p><p>[13:44] Applying <i>Ghosts</i>' Lessons to B2B Marketing</p><p>[15:41] The Collaborative Writing Process of Ghosts</p><p>[17:41] Building Trust and Cohesion in B2B Marketing</p><p>[20:19] Exploring Character Influence in Creative Writing</p><p>[20:50] The Role of UX and Audience Understanding in Product Marketing</p><p>[21:33] B2B Marketing Insights from the Show 'Ghosts'</p><p>[22:13] Adapting and Knowing Your Audience in Business</p><p>[22:58] Learning from Adaptation: TV Shows and Business Strategies</p><p>[23:50] Merging Marketing Visions in Business Acquisitions</p><p>[26:01] Content Strategy and Creativity in B2B Marketing</p><p>[34:00] Content Strategy at Acquia</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B0CLHDD4WK/ref=atv_hm_hom_c_lZOsi7_2_1?jic=8%7CEgNhbGw%3D">Watch <i>Ghosts U.K.</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/courtneyroe/">Connect with Courtney on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.acquia.com/">Learn more about Acquia</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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Not in a spooky kind of way. But in a way where it sticks with them and they think about it later. 

So in this episode, we’re helping you revive your content strategy.

We’re talking about Ghosts, the U.K. TV series, with the help of special guest, Director of Content Strategy at Acquia, Courtney Roe. 

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Not in a spooky kind of way. But in a way where it sticks with them and they think about it later. 

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We’re talking about Ghosts, the U.K. TV series, with the help of special guest, Director of Content Strategy at Acquia, Courtney Roe. 

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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Marketing is like magic.</p><p>It takes the right words in the right tone to cast a spell on your audience. </p><p>That’s what we’re talking about today with the help of our special guest, Kendra Walters, Director of Content Strategy at SAP Concur. </p><p>Together, we’re chatting about marketing lessons from <i>Harry Potter</i>, including having a ‘red thread’ tying your content to your storyline, creating a repeatable structure for your content, and creating a mystery worth solving.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Kendra Walters</strong></p><p>Kendra Walters is Director of Content Strategy at SAP Concur. Here, she leads the content strategy for Enterprise Americas developing compelling, unique, and engaging content that drives awareness for the company’s world-leading travel and expense solutions. She has been with the company over 11 years and built the center of excellence for content strategy in 2015 where she has developed and grown a team of talented marketers who have brought home several awards including two <a href="https://b2bmarketing.exchange/the-killer-content-awards/">Killer Content Awards</a>. </p><p>Kendra’s multi-faceted marketing background spanning over 15 years in tech, medical, and financial services allows her to relate to a multitude of audiences and put the customer at the center. She has a breadth of knowledge in B2B content strategy, development, lifecycle, and optimization as well as demand generation, GTM strategy, and field marketing. Also a trained graphic designer and writer with a passion for storytelling, she strives to bring a unique voice to each piece of content and campaign put into market.</p><p><strong>About SAP Concur</strong></p><p>SAP Concur is the world’s leading brand for integrated travel, expense, and invoice management solutions, driven by a relentless pursuit to simplify and automate these everyday processes. The highly-rated SAP Concur mobile app guides employees through business trips, charges are directly populated into expense reports, and invoice approvals are automated. By integrating near real-time data and using AI to analyze transactions, businesses can see what they’re spending, improve compliance, and avoid possible blind spots in the budget. SAP Concur solutions help eliminate yesterday’s tedious tasks, make today’s work easier, and support businesses to run at their best.</p><p><strong>About </strong><i><strong>Harry Potter</strong></i></p><p><i>Harry Potter</i> is a story about an orphan boy named Harry Potter who finds out he’s a wizard. The story follows Harry and his closest friends, Hermione Granger and Ron Weasley, through each school year at Hogwarts School of Wizardry. It started as a series of 7 books by author J.K. Rowling, the first being <i>Harry Potter and the Philosopher’s Stone</i>, which was released in 1997.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Harry Potter</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Have a ‘red thread’ that connects your content to your storyline.</strong> Tell your audience a continuous story. Make connections between pieces of content for a sense of cohesiveness. Kendra says, “Don’t just do ‘random acts of marketing.’ Use that red thread to carry through, from the top of the funnel when someone is seeking you out in SEO, all the way to the bottom when you close, and even through renewals.” She adds, “Look at your storytelling like a seven chapter or a seven part book with multiple subplots.”</li><li><strong>Create a repeatable structure for your content.</strong> It makes your job easier, and creates a familiar blueprint your audience will recognize. Ian says that with each <i>Harry Potter </i>book, “There’s that structure. You know each book is a school year.” And we can apply that to marketing, he says, in that “You need to have sign posts for your audience so that they know exactly what they're getting into.” Kendra adds, “There's a formulaic structure to the books. Layered on top of all of these subplots and plots and characters. And so, I think having that formula to your campaigns or your content is a great way to think about it.”</li><li><strong>Create a mystery worth solving.</strong> B2B marketing doesn’t make you think analytically or engage your problem solving skills. But it should. Make your audience think, analyze, question the ideas in your content to engage them more deeply in your brand. Ian says, “Most B2B marketing or content is literally just telling you what the thing is, right? It's not creating any controversy. It's not creating multiple points of view. It's not debating things that could happen. In B2B marketing, you need to create stuff that people can disagree about.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”We talk about this idea of human to human marketing, B2B people are still people and you're still buying from a human but we have the least human marketing possible. We have the least human content possible.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”A lot of time we write content that's for us and not for our customers or our audience. And so use words that mean something to them, not just mean something to you. What questions are they actually asking when they're searching for something in SEO? And is the content answering those questions?” - Kendra Walters</p><p>*”Building that context to know when to use what type of content at what point in the funnel is something that can give you a lot more information than just like, ‘Oh, how many people looked at my webpage?’” - Kendra Walters</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Kendra Walters, Director of Content Strategy at SAP Concur</p><p>[4:02] The Enchantment of Storytelling: Harry Potter's Impact and Creation</p><p>[11:51] Masterful Storytelling: Plotting, Pacing, and Character Development in Harry Potter</p><p>[20:18] Translating Magic into Marketing: Key Takeaways from Harry Potter for B2B Marketers</p><p>[26:17] Diving Deep into Harry Potter Fandom</p><p>[27:40] Creating Raving Fans: The Harry Potter Effect</p><p>[28:05] The Mystery and Engagement in Storytelling</p><p>[29:04] B2B Marketing Insights from Harry Potter</p><p>[30:21] Emotional Takeaways and the Power of Choices</p><p>[31:44] Relatability and Human Elements in B2B Marketing</p><p>[36:31] Content Strategy and Audience Engagement</p><p>[38:33] The Impact of Content Marketing and Measuring ROI</p><p>[41:58] Campaign Success Stories and Advice for Content Strategists</p><p>[46:57] Concluding Thoughts on Harry Potter and Content Marketing</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Harry-Potter-Sorcerers-Daniel-Radcliffe/dp/B00AP06III/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3ROQO14F87KTF&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Aiv5xhJFfHiPZmPjY6E2u2MSn_ebwhrdZLmA1QGUUwXK91qEHqcyKkZ2I_DI8z9NNS2AmOLcJ9Ys2nO5hNLEuvWc-bqH8se1G-NTtsWeQUqx5BprjQE6k3blrytPAVZEvBj7sPQ2ePu_D0SdkUlQ9tG5y5Mv-Eqan5Ybyz5wBxogAsyhVWgBwT6bZXGECGnn0aaCu_XPjD5GZ_clV3teMis20qCPvWe0pNm-ad0Yz1s.jTIBfxe681q2pt-dHl2M8EWMPEM1_bV6IyVnQv-NniE&dib_tag=se&keywords=harry+potter&qid=1710197331&s=instant-video&sprefix=harry+potter%2Cinstant-video%2C225&sr=1-1">Watch <i>Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Harry-Potter-Sorcerers-Stone-Rowling-ebook/dp/B0192CTMYG/ref=sr_1_5?crid=1UCH5KZD10H6&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.DpGc9Se4XuE51caNP1lQQm-wa8c2jcjBIqIsy5ItEzX9zBJ6FRqZQn2Uc-UuRNAqguUZKcG9LYXA8mtL9SWQXawbvBOIXVEMV3RSlYMM3NzcZ7jyyN0R5BHHtbuHO-Tlw-pcurjJnkzJOxoff6PglZRMKn8nyWwIGX6yPTvEFNUKCoTg6qgox7iD1rOkjW2iS47rMjTu-VTJcjR8zMM77hwh3ItswE0htxqlk9-ON-im0ncDWP2ab_u6jRyQ3Pbj9xFmSBmhYMcAnXstRfaidcuNlB3kDTtdThbCu_Bi3vw.8ew3Fx3ErTSOEHihbf0vXQ6eXKeK7MJ6QvTLljXJF5w&dib_tag=se&keywords=harry+potter+books&qid=1710197351&sprefix=harry+potter%2Caps%2C139&sr=8-5">Read <i>Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone</i></a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sap-concur-conversations/id1525744763">Listen to SAP Concur Conversations</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kendraewalters/">Connect with Kendra on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.sap.com/products/spend-management/travel-and-expense-management.html">Learn more about SAP Concur</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2024 19:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Ian Faison, Kendra Walters, Meredith Gooderham, Scott Goodrich)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marketing is like magic.</p><p>It takes the right words in the right tone to cast a spell on your audience. </p><p>That’s what we’re talking about today with the help of our special guest, Kendra Walters, Director of Content Strategy at SAP Concur. </p><p>Together, we’re chatting about marketing lessons from <i>Harry Potter</i>, including having a ‘red thread’ tying your content to your storyline, creating a repeatable structure for your content, and creating a mystery worth solving.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Kendra Walters</strong></p><p>Kendra Walters is Director of Content Strategy at SAP Concur. Here, she leads the content strategy for Enterprise Americas developing compelling, unique, and engaging content that drives awareness for the company’s world-leading travel and expense solutions. She has been with the company over 11 years and built the center of excellence for content strategy in 2015 where she has developed and grown a team of talented marketers who have brought home several awards including two <a href="https://b2bmarketing.exchange/the-killer-content-awards/">Killer Content Awards</a>. </p><p>Kendra’s multi-faceted marketing background spanning over 15 years in tech, medical, and financial services allows her to relate to a multitude of audiences and put the customer at the center. She has a breadth of knowledge in B2B content strategy, development, lifecycle, and optimization as well as demand generation, GTM strategy, and field marketing. Also a trained graphic designer and writer with a passion for storytelling, she strives to bring a unique voice to each piece of content and campaign put into market.</p><p><strong>About SAP Concur</strong></p><p>SAP Concur is the world’s leading brand for integrated travel, expense, and invoice management solutions, driven by a relentless pursuit to simplify and automate these everyday processes. The highly-rated SAP Concur mobile app guides employees through business trips, charges are directly populated into expense reports, and invoice approvals are automated. By integrating near real-time data and using AI to analyze transactions, businesses can see what they’re spending, improve compliance, and avoid possible blind spots in the budget. SAP Concur solutions help eliminate yesterday’s tedious tasks, make today’s work easier, and support businesses to run at their best.</p><p><strong>About </strong><i><strong>Harry Potter</strong></i></p><p><i>Harry Potter</i> is a story about an orphan boy named Harry Potter who finds out he’s a wizard. The story follows Harry and his closest friends, Hermione Granger and Ron Weasley, through each school year at Hogwarts School of Wizardry. It started as a series of 7 books by author J.K. Rowling, the first being <i>Harry Potter and the Philosopher’s Stone</i>, which was released in 1997.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Harry Potter</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Have a ‘red thread’ that connects your content to your storyline.</strong> Tell your audience a continuous story. Make connections between pieces of content for a sense of cohesiveness. Kendra says, “Don’t just do ‘random acts of marketing.’ Use that red thread to carry through, from the top of the funnel when someone is seeking you out in SEO, all the way to the bottom when you close, and even through renewals.” She adds, “Look at your storytelling like a seven chapter or a seven part book with multiple subplots.”</li><li><strong>Create a repeatable structure for your content.</strong> It makes your job easier, and creates a familiar blueprint your audience will recognize. Ian says that with each <i>Harry Potter </i>book, “There’s that structure. You know each book is a school year.” And we can apply that to marketing, he says, in that “You need to have sign posts for your audience so that they know exactly what they're getting into.” Kendra adds, “There's a formulaic structure to the books. Layered on top of all of these subplots and plots and characters. And so, I think having that formula to your campaigns or your content is a great way to think about it.”</li><li><strong>Create a mystery worth solving.</strong> B2B marketing doesn’t make you think analytically or engage your problem solving skills. But it should. Make your audience think, analyze, question the ideas in your content to engage them more deeply in your brand. Ian says, “Most B2B marketing or content is literally just telling you what the thing is, right? It's not creating any controversy. It's not creating multiple points of view. It's not debating things that could happen. In B2B marketing, you need to create stuff that people can disagree about.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”We talk about this idea of human to human marketing, B2B people are still people and you're still buying from a human but we have the least human marketing possible. We have the least human content possible.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”A lot of time we write content that's for us and not for our customers or our audience. And so use words that mean something to them, not just mean something to you. What questions are they actually asking when they're searching for something in SEO? And is the content answering those questions?” - Kendra Walters</p><p>*”Building that context to know when to use what type of content at what point in the funnel is something that can give you a lot more information than just like, ‘Oh, how many people looked at my webpage?’” - Kendra Walters</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Kendra Walters, Director of Content Strategy at SAP Concur</p><p>[4:02] The Enchantment of Storytelling: Harry Potter's Impact and Creation</p><p>[11:51] Masterful Storytelling: Plotting, Pacing, and Character Development in Harry Potter</p><p>[20:18] Translating Magic into Marketing: Key Takeaways from Harry Potter for B2B Marketers</p><p>[26:17] Diving Deep into Harry Potter Fandom</p><p>[27:40] Creating Raving Fans: The Harry Potter Effect</p><p>[28:05] The Mystery and Engagement in Storytelling</p><p>[29:04] B2B Marketing Insights from Harry Potter</p><p>[30:21] Emotional Takeaways and the Power of Choices</p><p>[31:44] Relatability and Human Elements in B2B Marketing</p><p>[36:31] Content Strategy and Audience Engagement</p><p>[38:33] The Impact of Content Marketing and Measuring ROI</p><p>[41:58] Campaign Success Stories and Advice for Content Strategists</p><p>[46:57] Concluding Thoughts on Harry Potter and Content Marketing</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Harry-Potter-Sorcerers-Daniel-Radcliffe/dp/B00AP06III/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3ROQO14F87KTF&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Aiv5xhJFfHiPZmPjY6E2u2MSn_ebwhrdZLmA1QGUUwXK91qEHqcyKkZ2I_DI8z9NNS2AmOLcJ9Ys2nO5hNLEuvWc-bqH8se1G-NTtsWeQUqx5BprjQE6k3blrytPAVZEvBj7sPQ2ePu_D0SdkUlQ9tG5y5Mv-Eqan5Ybyz5wBxogAsyhVWgBwT6bZXGECGnn0aaCu_XPjD5GZ_clV3teMis20qCPvWe0pNm-ad0Yz1s.jTIBfxe681q2pt-dHl2M8EWMPEM1_bV6IyVnQv-NniE&dib_tag=se&keywords=harry+potter&qid=1710197331&s=instant-video&sprefix=harry+potter%2Cinstant-video%2C225&sr=1-1">Watch <i>Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Harry-Potter-Sorcerers-Stone-Rowling-ebook/dp/B0192CTMYG/ref=sr_1_5?crid=1UCH5KZD10H6&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.DpGc9Se4XuE51caNP1lQQm-wa8c2jcjBIqIsy5ItEzX9zBJ6FRqZQn2Uc-UuRNAqguUZKcG9LYXA8mtL9SWQXawbvBOIXVEMV3RSlYMM3NzcZ7jyyN0R5BHHtbuHO-Tlw-pcurjJnkzJOxoff6PglZRMKn8nyWwIGX6yPTvEFNUKCoTg6qgox7iD1rOkjW2iS47rMjTu-VTJcjR8zMM77hwh3ItswE0htxqlk9-ON-im0ncDWP2ab_u6jRyQ3Pbj9xFmSBmhYMcAnXstRfaidcuNlB3kDTtdThbCu_Bi3vw.8ew3Fx3ErTSOEHihbf0vXQ6eXKeK7MJ6QvTLljXJF5w&dib_tag=se&keywords=harry+potter+books&qid=1710197351&sprefix=harry+potter%2Caps%2C139&sr=8-5">Read <i>Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone</i></a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sap-concur-conversations/id1525744763">Listen to SAP Concur Conversations</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kendraewalters/">Connect with Kendra on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.sap.com/products/spend-management/travel-and-expense-management.html">Learn more about SAP Concur</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Michael Crichton: B2B Marketing Lessons from the Author of Jurassic Park with the CMO of Promo.com, Joel Horwitz</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>It's easy to get technical when you're writing copy about a highly technical subject. But that's when you lose your audience.<br /><br />Instead ask, "What problem is this solving for my customer?" And explain it in their language.<br /><br />That's one strategy inspired by Michael Crichton that we're ​​​​exploring today with the CMO of Promo.com, Joel Horwitz. <br /><br />Together, we talk about writing in layman's terms, thoroughly researching the problem you're trying to solve, and learning something new about marketing every day.​​</p><p><strong>About our guest, Joel Horwitz</strong></p><p>Joel is an experienced High-Tech Marketing professional with a diverse background in data science & engineering, product strategy and digital marketing. Prior to Promo.com, he was the Chief Marketing Officer of AudioEye where he led the Go-To-Market team with a Product-Led Growth Strategy that helped grow the company from less than 300 customers to over 30,000 in a year. Prior to that, at IBM, he championed the value of a Digital Go-To-Market as the Global Vice President of Strategic Partnerships and Digital Offerings for IBM’s Digital Business Group. In addition, his extensive background in Data + AI has helped him lead breakthrough customer experiences including the AudioEye Accessibility Solution, IBM Data Science Experience, Alpine Data Labs Modeler, Datameer Sheets for Hadoop, <a href="http://h2o.ai/">H2O.ai</a> Sparkling Water, and more; through the introduction of platform partnerships, self-service offerings, and digital go-to-market.</p><p>Joel holds an MBA in International Business from the University of Pittsburgh, an MS and BS in Nanotechnology from the College of Engineering at the University of Washington, Seattle, WA. He is a board member of NUMFocus, an advisor to a number of startups, and a volunteer in his local community. </p><p><strong>About Promo.com</strong></p><p>Originally launched in 2016 as a B2B video creation and distribution platform, Promo.com has since won numerous awards, scored top customer reviews and has been deployed by Fortune 500 companies for social media marketing purposes for 10,000+ Brands. Promo.com’s latest product, PromoAI Copilot, soft-launched in October 2023, gaining over 1,000 customers who are now using the Promo.com Platform. Its latest product, PromoAI Copilot is now available at Promo.com or on the OpenAI GPT Store.</p><p><strong>About Michael Crichton</strong></p><p>Michael Crichton is the late award-winning author, screenwriter and filmmaker, having passed away in 2008. He’s most known for having written <i>Jurassic Park</i> and having created <i>ER</i>. He was incredibly prolific. So he’s also known for books, movies and TV shows like <i>The Andromeda Strain, The Lost World</i>, <i>Westworld, </i>and all the other Jurassic movies (<i>Jurassic Park III, Jurassic World, </i>etc.) He also wrote frequently under the pseudonym John Lange of Jeffery Hudson. He has sold 200 million books, and his books have been translated into 38 languages, and 13 of them have been made into movies. He has an Emmy and a Peabody among other awards.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Michael Crichton:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Write in layman’s terms.</strong> Even when it’s a highly technical product or concept, write so the general reader can understand your topic. Joel says, “What makes Michael Crichton remarkable is his ability to explain highly complex and difficult ideas in a way that a nine year old can understand them. If you're in the high tech industry, you're working with cryptocurrencies, blockchain, artificial intelligence, machine learning, or large language models. All this stuff is very difficult to understand if you're a novice. So if you can communicate these ideas and not just explain them for what they are, but then to try to compel somebody to be interested in these ideas and then extrapolate a whole story and a whole vision of where this could take us, that to me is Remarkable.”</li><li><strong>Thoroughly research the problem you’re trying to solve. </strong>Become an expert on the topic and then teach your audience about it. Explaining how your product solves the problem in detail and backing it up with research builds credibility as well as drives engagement and conversion. Joel says, “Ultimately, marketers are teachers. What are we really doing with content marketing? We're teaching people about how to think about a particular product area. A lot of the work goes into really making sure you’ve got the problem right that you need to solve. Not as much on the solutioning side. Usually it's like, ‘What is the problem that we're trying to actually solve here?’ And researching that.” And he adds, “Not just reading, but actually, for example, going to the location or going out and actually talking to customers.”</li><li><strong>Learn something new about marketing every day. </strong>Ask questions and be intensely curious. Learn from your peers, from Google searches, or subscribe to a newsletter like <a href="https://marketingexamples.com/">Harry Dry’s</a>, <a href="https://thereeder.co/newsletter/">Devin Reed’s</a> or <a href="https://newsletter.mkt1.co/">Emily Kramer’s</a>. Joel says, “Constantly be learning, coming into things with a beginner's mindset. I think that's another big thing Michael Crichton does well. He asks a lot of good questions. My grandfather told me the smartest men and women ask the best questions. They act as if you don't know something because that's how you learn.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”I was never one for the big unveil. I've always been like, ‘All right, what are the things that we can incrementally change and test to see if we're moving things in the right direction?’” - Joel Horwitz</p><p>*”I think we often think of, ‘Who's that one ideal customer profile or who's that one champion that we need to target?’ But these decisions, especially B2B, they're never made by a single person. It's almost always a team. And so it's really helpful for me to think about, ‘Who are the different personalities in the room that I'm speaking to?’ Because I think if you can convince them or they can all see kind of their own story, their own journey, and how this product or how the solution is going to help them, I think you have a much better chance of getting their attention.” - Joel Horwitz</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Joel Horwitz, CMO of Promo.com</p><p>[1:35] Why are we talking about Michael Crichton?</p><p>[5:41] What does Joel’s work at Promo.com entail?</p><p>[8:27] Who is Michael Crichton?</p><p>[13:22] What was Michael Crichton’s creative process?</p><p>[17:35] What makes Michael Crichton remarkable?</p><p>[32:56] What B2B marketing lessons can we take from Michael Crichton?</p><p>[50:13] What have Joel’s favorite campaigns been over the years?</p><p>[53:10] What’s next for Promo.com?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.michaelcrichton.com/">Learn more about Michael Crichton</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joelshorwitz/">Connect with Joel on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="http://promo.com/">Learn more about Promo.com</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 7 Mar 2024 18:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Ian Faison, Joel Horwitz, Meredith Gooderham, Jess Avellino, Scott Goodrich)</author>
      <link>https://www.caspianstudios.com/remarkable</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's easy to get technical when you're writing copy about a highly technical subject. But that's when you lose your audience.<br /><br />Instead ask, "What problem is this solving for my customer?" And explain it in their language.<br /><br />That's one strategy inspired by Michael Crichton that we're ​​​​exploring today with the CMO of Promo.com, Joel Horwitz. <br /><br />Together, we talk about writing in layman's terms, thoroughly researching the problem you're trying to solve, and learning something new about marketing every day.​​</p><p><strong>About our guest, Joel Horwitz</strong></p><p>Joel is an experienced High-Tech Marketing professional with a diverse background in data science & engineering, product strategy and digital marketing. Prior to Promo.com, he was the Chief Marketing Officer of AudioEye where he led the Go-To-Market team with a Product-Led Growth Strategy that helped grow the company from less than 300 customers to over 30,000 in a year. Prior to that, at IBM, he championed the value of a Digital Go-To-Market as the Global Vice President of Strategic Partnerships and Digital Offerings for IBM’s Digital Business Group. In addition, his extensive background in Data + AI has helped him lead breakthrough customer experiences including the AudioEye Accessibility Solution, IBM Data Science Experience, Alpine Data Labs Modeler, Datameer Sheets for Hadoop, <a href="http://h2o.ai/">H2O.ai</a> Sparkling Water, and more; through the introduction of platform partnerships, self-service offerings, and digital go-to-market.</p><p>Joel holds an MBA in International Business from the University of Pittsburgh, an MS and BS in Nanotechnology from the College of Engineering at the University of Washington, Seattle, WA. 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So he’s also known for books, movies and TV shows like <i>The Andromeda Strain, The Lost World</i>, <i>Westworld, </i>and all the other Jurassic movies (<i>Jurassic Park III, Jurassic World, </i>etc.) He also wrote frequently under the pseudonym John Lange of Jeffery Hudson. He has sold 200 million books, and his books have been translated into 38 languages, and 13 of them have been made into movies. He has an Emmy and a Peabody among other awards.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Michael Crichton:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Write in layman’s terms.</strong> Even when it’s a highly technical product or concept, write so the general reader can understand your topic. Joel says, “What makes Michael Crichton remarkable is his ability to explain highly complex and difficult ideas in a way that a nine year old can understand them. If you're in the high tech industry, you're working with cryptocurrencies, blockchain, artificial intelligence, machine learning, or large language models. All this stuff is very difficult to understand if you're a novice. So if you can communicate these ideas and not just explain them for what they are, but then to try to compel somebody to be interested in these ideas and then extrapolate a whole story and a whole vision of where this could take us, that to me is Remarkable.”</li><li><strong>Thoroughly research the problem you’re trying to solve. </strong>Become an expert on the topic and then teach your audience about it. Explaining how your product solves the problem in detail and backing it up with research builds credibility as well as drives engagement and conversion. Joel says, “Ultimately, marketers are teachers. What are we really doing with content marketing? We're teaching people about how to think about a particular product area. A lot of the work goes into really making sure you’ve got the problem right that you need to solve. Not as much on the solutioning side. Usually it's like, ‘What is the problem that we're trying to actually solve here?’ And researching that.” And he adds, “Not just reading, but actually, for example, going to the location or going out and actually talking to customers.”</li><li><strong>Learn something new about marketing every day. </strong>Ask questions and be intensely curious. Learn from your peers, from Google searches, or subscribe to a newsletter like <a href="https://marketingexamples.com/">Harry Dry’s</a>, <a href="https://thereeder.co/newsletter/">Devin Reed’s</a> or <a href="https://newsletter.mkt1.co/">Emily Kramer’s</a>. Joel says, “Constantly be learning, coming into things with a beginner's mindset. I think that's another big thing Michael Crichton does well. He asks a lot of good questions. My grandfather told me the smartest men and women ask the best questions. They act as if you don't know something because that's how you learn.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”I was never one for the big unveil. I've always been like, ‘All right, what are the things that we can incrementally change and test to see if we're moving things in the right direction?’” - Joel Horwitz</p><p>*”I think we often think of, ‘Who's that one ideal customer profile or who's that one champion that we need to target?’ But these decisions, especially B2B, they're never made by a single person. It's almost always a team. And so it's really helpful for me to think about, ‘Who are the different personalities in the room that I'm speaking to?’ Because I think if you can convince them or they can all see kind of their own story, their own journey, and how this product or how the solution is going to help them, I think you have a much better chance of getting their attention.” - Joel Horwitz</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Joel Horwitz, CMO of Promo.com</p><p>[1:35] Why are we talking about Michael Crichton?</p><p>[5:41] What does Joel’s work at Promo.com entail?</p><p>[8:27] Who is Michael Crichton?</p><p>[13:22] What was Michael Crichton’s creative process?</p><p>[17:35] What makes Michael Crichton remarkable?</p><p>[32:56] What B2B marketing lessons can we take from Michael Crichton?</p><p>[50:13] What have Joel’s favorite campaigns been over the years?</p><p>[53:10] What’s next for Promo.com?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.michaelcrichton.com/">Learn more about Michael Crichton</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joelshorwitz/">Connect with Joel on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="http://promo.com/">Learn more about Promo.com</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. 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      <description><![CDATA[<p>There’s one marketing tactic that can make people laugh, it can make people gasp. But either way it’ll make them remember your content for years. </p><p>It’s shock factor. And people aren’t using it enough in B2B marketing. </p><p>It’s eliciting this strong emotional response that grabs your audience’s attention, gets them talking about your brand, and makes your content rise above the noise. What’s not to love? </p><p>So in this episode of Remarkable, we’re talking about a group of filmmakers who <i>know</i> about shock factor: Traktor. And with the help of our special guest, Senior Director, Head of Content at Domino Data Lab, Yuval Zukerman, we chat about going for the shock factor, creating a series of ads for a single campaign, and using your constraints to your advantage.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Yuval Zukerman</strong></p><p>Yuval Zukerman is Senior Director, Head of Content at Domino Data Lab. He joined the company in July 2022 as Director of Technical Alliances. Prior to Domino Data Lab, Yuval served as Manager of Partner Marketing at VMWare. He has also founded his own company, Enavigo, LLC, focusing on technology leadership for results-oriented marketers, mobile development, developer relations, translation and localization project management.</p><p>Over his career, he has served in a variety of roles across the technology lifecycle. From developer and engineer to project manager, technology consultant to technical creative and sales. He has worked with non-profits, medium-sized clients and global Fortune 500 companies in verticals that included CPG, B2C and B2B services, hospitality and financial. Past clients include Four Seasons Hotels and Resorts, Wells Fargo, Verizon Wireless, The Coca-Cola Company, Philips, and The Greater Boston Food Bank. He has a B.S. in Computer Science from UCLA and an M.A. in Information Technology and Software Engineering from Harvard.</p><p><strong>About Domino Data Lab</strong></p><p>​​Domino Data Lab powers model-driven business for the world’s most advanced enterprises, including over 20% of the Fortune 100. Their Enterprise MLOps platform speeds up the development and deployment of data science work while increasing collaboration and governance, to scale data science into a competitive advantage. Their platform enables thousands of data scientists to develop better medicines, grow more productive crops, adapt risk models to major economic shifts, build better cars, improve customer support, or simply recommend the best purchase to make at the right time. Domino is backed by leading venture capital firms: Sequoia Capital, Bloomberg Beta, Coatue Management, Dell Technologies Capital, Highland Capital Partners, In-Q-Tel, and Zetta Venture Partners.</p><p><strong>About Traktor</strong></p><p>Traktor is a group of filmmakers based in Venice, California. Though they’re based in California, they’re originally from Sweden and met in film school: Directors Sam Larsson, Pontus Löwenhielm, Patrik von Krusenstjerna, Ole Sanders, Mats Lindberg and producer Richard Ulfvengren. They’re globally renowned for their work serving brands like Lego, Nike, PepsiCo, Levi’s, Fox Sports, MTV, Virgin Atlantic, and more. They’ve done music videos for Fatboy Slim, the Flaming Lips and Madonna. At least twice they’ve been recognized as the most award-winning directors in the world. They’ve won three Grand Prix at Cannes, a handful of Clios, an Emmy, and been nominated for a Grammy.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Traktor:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Go for the shock factor. </strong>Knock your audience off-balance with unexpected content. It’s inexpensive, it’s attention-grabbing, it’s memorable. Traktor made ads for Fox Sports that showed a man high diving straight into the ground, and another of two blindfolded men swinging oversized bats at each other. They were shockingly off-kilter for sports ads at the time. Over 20 years later, Yuval still remembers them vividly. Ian says, ”I wouldn't say Traktor’s first ads are cheaply done, but comparatively. Like, there's no celebrities. They’re just jarring. It's just taking the one salient point that you want the person to know and finding some sort of crazy connection out there in the ether to drive that home and then make the audience think, make them laugh.”</li><li><strong>Create a series within your campaign.</strong> It gives you a format while allowing you freedom to play on your theme. So you can create a variety of ads that appeal to different audience preferences, increase brand awareness and recall, and even run A/B testing with them. It’s like how Traktor made a series of ads for Fox Sports. Ian says, ”They have one ad on an Indian sport and one on a Chinese sport. As the viewer, you realize it’s a series. It becomes something that’s beyond just a one-off thing. And now people think they’re so funny. That’s where ads are at their best, when it’s less of a one-off and more of something that’s ongoing.”</li><li><strong>Use your constraints to your advantage.</strong> Traktor leaned into their tight budget, and in doing so created stylized videos that were visually unique and captivating. Ian says, “If you don't have the budget, how can you steer into doing things grainier or less quality or unintentionally done in that way?”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”You're taking time from your audience. Traktor is giving them an exchange: Humor. They're giving you a giggle and a laugh. And that is something that is very important for us, to provide people value for their time. Time is the most valuable thing we have. So you better not waste it.” - Yuval Zukerman</p><p>*”No matter what your goal is in the content, stand up to your core set of values. Live up to those standards. I always tell my kids, ‘Are you proud of what you just did?’ Because there's something you can feel good that you delivered or created.” - Yuval Zukerman</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Yuval Zukerman, Senior Director, Head of Content at Domino Data Lab</p><p>[2:08] Why are we talking about ads by Traktor?</p><p>[3:01] What does Yuval’s work at Domino Data Lab entail?</p><p>[5:35] Learn more about Traktor</p><p>[12:07] What makes ads by Traktor remarkable?</p><p>[20:35] What are marketing lessons we can take from Traktor?</p><p>[27:58] What’s Yuval’s content strategy?</p><p>[33:02] How does Yuval get leadership buy-in on new content?</p><p>[41:40] How does Yuval prove the ROI of content?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://traktor.com/welcome/">Check out films by Traktor</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/yzukerman/">Connect with Yuval on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://domino.ai/">Learn more about Domino Data Lab</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. 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I always tell my kids, ‘Are you proud of what you just did?’ Because there's something you can feel good that you delivered or created.” - Yuval Zukerman</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Yuval Zukerman, Senior Director, Head of Content at Domino Data Lab</p><p>[2:08] Why are we talking about ads by Traktor?</p><p>[3:01] What does Yuval’s work at Domino Data Lab entail?</p><p>[5:35] Learn more about Traktor</p><p>[12:07] What makes ads by Traktor remarkable?</p><p>[20:35] What are marketing lessons we can take from Traktor?</p><p>[27:58] What’s Yuval’s content strategy?</p><p>[33:02] How does Yuval get leadership buy-in on new content?</p><p>[41:40] How does Yuval prove the ROI of content?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://traktor.com/welcome/">Check out films by Traktor</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/yzukerman/">Connect with Yuval on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://domino.ai/">Learn more about Domino Data Lab</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. 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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Suffering from marketer’s block? Try making a parody.</p><p>Take what’s trending, spin it to reflect your brand, and your next campaign will get people sharing. </p><p>That’s one of the things we’re talking about with MoEngage’s Head of Content & Organic Growth, Shana Haynie. Together, we chat about making a parody, capitalizing on industry trends, and following up with your audience after launching a new campaign.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Shana Haynie</strong></p><p>Shana Haynie is Head of Content and Organic Growth at customer engagement platform MoEngage. She has over 11 years of marketing experience, and five as a people manager. She joined MoEngage in November 2023, and was hired to scale organic growth for MoEngage's North America (US) region through SEO and content marketing best practices. Prior to MoEngage, Shana served as Head of Content for Unit21. She has also led Demand Gen for Hearst Bay Area and Inbound Marketing for Moves The Needle. In 2014, she co-founded a social media marketing agency, Vulpine Interactive. </p><p><strong>About MoEngage</strong></p><p>MoEngage is an insights-led customer engagement platform for the customer-obsessed marketers and product owners. We help you delight your customers and retain them for longer. With MoEngage you can analyze customer behavior and engage them with personalized communication across the web, mobile, and email. MoEngage is a full-stack solution consisting of powerful customer analytics, AI-powered customer journey orchestration, and personalization - in one dashboard From Fortune 500 enterprises such as Deutsche Telekom, Samsung, and Ally to mobile-first brands such as Flipkart, OLA, and bigbasket - MoEngage has helped amplify customer engagement for all. Product managers and growth marketers can use MoEngage to provide a personalized experience throughout the customer lifecycle stages – from onboarding to retention to growth. What makes MoEngage different, is a full-stack solution consisting of powerful customer analytics, AI-powered customer journey orchestration and personalization capabilities - in one dashboard.</p><p><strong>About Matomo’s </strong><i><strong>Googleheimer Countdown</strong></i><strong> Ad</strong></p><p>The ad was created by B2B boutique ad agency <a href="https://umault.com/portfolio/1-million-views-in-a-week">Umault </a>for Matomo, which is a competitor to Google Analytics. And their thinking was “If you’re going to compete against Google, you have to go big.”</p><p>Umault had created an ad that was a Last of Us parody about Google Analytics 4, and Matomo asked for something similar. What’s interesting is that because Umault was working on the ad before Oppenheimer came out, they were banking on the movie being a blockbuster hit. (Oppenheimer being the movie about J. Robert Oppenheimer and the creation of the atomic bomb.)</p><p>The ad, called “Googleheimer Countdown,” got over 1 million views in a week. And customers were praising and selling Matomo to viewers in the comments. Matomo then followed the release of the ad with a strong distribution strategy. They responded to comments, reshared and reposted viewer posts. They also paid a media agency to amplify the ad.</p><p>Umault says that their Matomo ad is appealing to viewers because they prioritize entertainment first, and marketing second. They said, “This is what happens when you make a hit video people actually want to watch.”</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Matomo’s </strong><i><strong>Googleheimer Countdown </strong></i><strong>Ad:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Create a parody.</strong> Parodying already-popular content provides context to your viewers as well as scaffolding for your story. So it’s a lighter lift for you and more likely to resonate for them. Ian says, “The audience has to do so little lifting because it's a parody. You're using infrastructure that's already there, you're using a story that's already there. None of us have even seen Oppenheimer, but you know the story and you're in on the joke. And that's why parody works so well. It’s such a winning strategy.”</li><li><strong>Capitalize on industry trends.</strong> Timing is everything with this kind of campaign. Tune into industry sentiment and create content that reflects that tone. Shana says, “Trend jacking has been proven to work really well. And do it in such a way that is geared towards the favorability of your organization, just like Matomo was able to capitalize on the fact that all of a sudden, all of these people are freaking out about their analytics, and that's what they offer. It's just a genius way to be able to kind of move your marketing in a direction that's going to be successful. And it's already built in.” </li><li><strong>Implement a followup strategy after campaign launch.</strong> Make a plan once a campaign is launched to engage with your audience. Respond to their comments and feedback as they consume the campaign. Shana says, “You have to think about how you're going to follow up on your campaign. Make sure that you have the monetization strategy baked in there. Otherwise all those impressions aren't going to amount to anything for your brand. I like the idea that [Matomo] had people on deck to respond to comments and are really engaging with the people who are engaging back. I think that's a really great way to insert yourself into those conversations so it's not just like, ‘Here's a piece of content. It's great. Okay, next.’”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Virtually anything can really be translated into meaningful content. When it's considered in the realm of business, this idea is really freeing and you can sense that the limits of what constitutes content are only confined by the creativity and the intentions that you bring. This philosophy empowers people to create more dynamic and explorative content with the significance placed on impact rather than just thinking about what it should be.” - Shana Haynie</p><p>*”It's crucial to think about what the practicalities of your content marketing are. So you're still responsible for driving tangible results. But everything needs to be balanced. It's art and science, understanding your audience's needs and the engagement metrics and all the business goals that go behind that. I think when you can distill those two things down, that's the basis for how I like to think about content strategy.” - Shana Haynie</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Shana Haynie, Head of Content & Organic Growth at MoEngage</p><p>[1:38] Why are we talking about Matomo’s <i>Googleheimer Countdown </i>ad?</p><p>[2:32] What does Shana’s work at MoEngage entail?</p><p>[3:24] What is Matomo’s <i>Googleheimer Countdown</i> ad?</p><p>[10:06] What makes the ad remarkable?</p><p>[17:20] What can we learn about marketing from the ad?</p><p>[23:40] What’s Shana’s content strategy?</p><p>[27:59] How does Shana prove the ROI of content?</p><p>[33:33] Shana shares past successful campaigns</p><p>[37:52] What exciting content is Shana creating at MoEngage?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92tmV4IMM7c">See Matomo’s <i>Googleheimer Countdown </i>ad</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanahaynie/">Connect with Shana on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.moengage.com/">Learn more about MoEngage</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suffering from marketer’s block? Try making a parody.</p><p>Take what’s trending, spin it to reflect your brand, and your next campaign will get people sharing. </p><p>That’s one of the things we’re talking about with MoEngage’s Head of Content & Organic Growth, Shana Haynie. Together, we chat about making a parody, capitalizing on industry trends, and following up with your audience after launching a new campaign.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Shana Haynie</strong></p><p>Shana Haynie is Head of Content and Organic Growth at customer engagement platform MoEngage. She has over 11 years of marketing experience, and five as a people manager. She joined MoEngage in November 2023, and was hired to scale organic growth for MoEngage's North America (US) region through SEO and content marketing best practices. Prior to MoEngage, Shana served as Head of Content for Unit21. She has also led Demand Gen for Hearst Bay Area and Inbound Marketing for Moves The Needle. In 2014, she co-founded a social media marketing agency, Vulpine Interactive. </p><p><strong>About MoEngage</strong></p><p>MoEngage is an insights-led customer engagement platform for the customer-obsessed marketers and product owners. We help you delight your customers and retain them for longer. With MoEngage you can analyze customer behavior and engage them with personalized communication across the web, mobile, and email. MoEngage is a full-stack solution consisting of powerful customer analytics, AI-powered customer journey orchestration, and personalization - in one dashboard From Fortune 500 enterprises such as Deutsche Telekom, Samsung, and Ally to mobile-first brands such as Flipkart, OLA, and bigbasket - MoEngage has helped amplify customer engagement for all. Product managers and growth marketers can use MoEngage to provide a personalized experience throughout the customer lifecycle stages – from onboarding to retention to growth. What makes MoEngage different, is a full-stack solution consisting of powerful customer analytics, AI-powered customer journey orchestration and personalization capabilities - in one dashboard.</p><p><strong>About Matomo’s </strong><i><strong>Googleheimer Countdown</strong></i><strong> Ad</strong></p><p>The ad was created by B2B boutique ad agency <a href="https://umault.com/portfolio/1-million-views-in-a-week">Umault </a>for Matomo, which is a competitor to Google Analytics. And their thinking was “If you’re going to compete against Google, you have to go big.”</p><p>Umault had created an ad that was a Last of Us parody about Google Analytics 4, and Matomo asked for something similar. What’s interesting is that because Umault was working on the ad before Oppenheimer came out, they were banking on the movie being a blockbuster hit. (Oppenheimer being the movie about J. Robert Oppenheimer and the creation of the atomic bomb.)</p><p>The ad, called “Googleheimer Countdown,” got over 1 million views in a week. And customers were praising and selling Matomo to viewers in the comments. Matomo then followed the release of the ad with a strong distribution strategy. They responded to comments, reshared and reposted viewer posts. They also paid a media agency to amplify the ad.</p><p>Umault says that their Matomo ad is appealing to viewers because they prioritize entertainment first, and marketing second. They said, “This is what happens when you make a hit video people actually want to watch.”</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Matomo’s </strong><i><strong>Googleheimer Countdown </strong></i><strong>Ad:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Create a parody.</strong> Parodying already-popular content provides context to your viewers as well as scaffolding for your story. So it’s a lighter lift for you and more likely to resonate for them. Ian says, “The audience has to do so little lifting because it's a parody. You're using infrastructure that's already there, you're using a story that's already there. None of us have even seen Oppenheimer, but you know the story and you're in on the joke. And that's why parody works so well. It’s such a winning strategy.”</li><li><strong>Capitalize on industry trends.</strong> Timing is everything with this kind of campaign. Tune into industry sentiment and create content that reflects that tone. Shana says, “Trend jacking has been proven to work really well. And do it in such a way that is geared towards the favorability of your organization, just like Matomo was able to capitalize on the fact that all of a sudden, all of these people are freaking out about their analytics, and that's what they offer. It's just a genius way to be able to kind of move your marketing in a direction that's going to be successful. And it's already built in.” </li><li><strong>Implement a followup strategy after campaign launch.</strong> Make a plan once a campaign is launched to engage with your audience. Respond to their comments and feedback as they consume the campaign. Shana says, “You have to think about how you're going to follow up on your campaign. Make sure that you have the monetization strategy baked in there. Otherwise all those impressions aren't going to amount to anything for your brand. I like the idea that [Matomo] had people on deck to respond to comments and are really engaging with the people who are engaging back. I think that's a really great way to insert yourself into those conversations so it's not just like, ‘Here's a piece of content. It's great. Okay, next.’”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Virtually anything can really be translated into meaningful content. When it's considered in the realm of business, this idea is really freeing and you can sense that the limits of what constitutes content are only confined by the creativity and the intentions that you bring. This philosophy empowers people to create more dynamic and explorative content with the significance placed on impact rather than just thinking about what it should be.” - Shana Haynie</p><p>*”It's crucial to think about what the practicalities of your content marketing are. So you're still responsible for driving tangible results. But everything needs to be balanced. It's art and science, understanding your audience's needs and the engagement metrics and all the business goals that go behind that. I think when you can distill those two things down, that's the basis for how I like to think about content strategy.” - Shana Haynie</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Shana Haynie, Head of Content & Organic Growth at MoEngage</p><p>[1:38] Why are we talking about Matomo’s <i>Googleheimer Countdown </i>ad?</p><p>[2:32] What does Shana’s work at MoEngage entail?</p><p>[3:24] What is Matomo’s <i>Googleheimer Countdown</i> ad?</p><p>[10:06] What makes the ad remarkable?</p><p>[17:20] What can we learn about marketing from the ad?</p><p>[23:40] What’s Shana’s content strategy?</p><p>[27:59] How does Shana prove the ROI of content?</p><p>[33:33] Shana shares past successful campaigns</p><p>[37:52] What exciting content is Shana creating at MoEngage?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92tmV4IMM7c">See Matomo’s <i>Googleheimer Countdown </i>ad</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanahaynie/">Connect with Shana on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.moengage.com/">Learn more about MoEngage</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Real Housewives: B2B Marketing Lessons from the Popular TV Franchise with Content Marketing Manager at Quora, Shelagh Dolan</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Your content can go so much further than you even know.</p><p>A single video or podcast can turn into blog and Instagram posts, tweets, clips, TikTok videos, newsletters, and more. </p><p>But tackling all of that on a small marketing team can feel enormous. So this is where you divide and conquer across platforms and channels. </p><p>That’s one of the things the <i>Real Housewives</i> do really well. And what we’re chatting about today with the help of special guest, Content Marketing Manager at Quora, Shelagh Dolan. </p><p>Together, we talk about slicing and dicing your content, identifying and catering to untapped audiences, and putting underperforming content “on pause.”</p><p><strong>About our guest, Shelagh Dolan</strong></p><p>Shelagh Dolan is Content Marketing Manager at Quora. She joined the company in June of 2022 and leads content strategy for its advertising division, Quora for Business. She has over a decade of experience building content strategies for global B2B brands, aligning content with sales objectives, and driving business growth. Prior to Quora, Shelagh served as Director of Content Marketing at eMarketer and Senior Content Marketing Manager at Business Insider.</p><p><strong>About Quora</strong></p><p>Quora is a Q&A platform with over 400 million monthly unique visitors that empowers people to share and grow the world’s knowledge. The vast majority of human knowledge is still not on the internet. Most of it is trapped in the form of experience in people’s heads, or buried in books and papers that only experts can access. Founded in 2009, Quora is working to democratize access to knowledge of all kinds—so if someone out there knows something, anyone else can learn it. In February of 2023, Quora launched its second product, Poe, a platform that lets people ask questions, get instant answers, and have back-and-forth conversations with a wide variety of AI-powered bots.</p><p><strong>About the </strong><i><strong>Real Housewives</strong></i></p><p>The <i>Real Housewives </i>is a reality TV show franchise about the lives of affluent women, and it usually centers around a specific city or area. The first show was <i>The Real Housewives of Orange County, </i>which aired in 2006. It was originally called <i>Behind the Gates</i>, but Bravo decided to change the name based on the popularity of the <i>Desperate Housewives </i>and <i>The OC </i>at the time to <i>The Real Housewives of Orange County. </i>There are now 11 U.S.-based versions including <i>The Real Housewives of New York City, Atlanta, New Jersey, D.C., </i>etc. And 21 international versions, as well as a bunch of spinoffs, including <i>Vanderpump Rules.</i></p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Real Housewives</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Slice and dice your content.</strong> Create shareable pieces that project members will want to share on their own channels. It’s how you divide and conquer across platforms, and make promotion a lighter lift for everyone involved. And you get more juice out of the ‘parent’ content. In the <i>Real Housewives</i>, Shelagh says, ‘You have the show itself. Then Andy Cohen is doing <i>Watch What Happens Live</i>, where he's discussing the episode that just happened. Then on top of that, each cast member is their own brand ambassador. They do a social media post about it, reminding people to watch. They're also often live posting during the show. You combine that with the multitude of podcasts, blogs, meme accounts dedicated to recapping these episodes. It's really just like a content machine and it just keeps on giving.”</li><li><strong>Identify and cater to untapped audiences.</strong> Appeal to a wider range of people by identifying a new target audience and catering to them. The <i>Real Housewives </i>did this by creating a show that starred women in the age range of their target demographic. Meredith said, “There are about five to seven women in [the <i>Real Housewives</i>] and they're usually in their 30s to 60s. An executive with NBC Universal said that often, women in that age group are overlooked, and so they really wanted to appeal to that demographic, and it would be a new audience for them. So they were drawing in people that they weren't already attracting to their content.”</li><li><strong>Put underperforming content “on pause”.</strong> Be unflinchingly honest about the content that’s getting poor engagement. Use that data to inform your next move and make adjustments as needed. Shelagh says, “[Bravo will] have the hard conversations if viewership is falling off. They definitely monitor qualitatively the social media discussions happening around individuals as well as seasons overall. And they will call someone and fire them if it's not working out and bring someone new on. There's been a few people that - they call it ‘putting on pause.’ They put them on pause, which is a nice way of saying, ‘please don't come back,’ and maybe there'll be something in the future.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Sometimes you have to make the tough call. Like, ‘This person isn't good in the content and we need to bring somebody else in who might be more junior. Or maybe we have to platform this person because they are important strategically to our company.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”[I realized that] I'm doing random acts of marketing. So let's see how we can get this to be more structured. So really bringing order to processes and following kind of like how the housewives have a recurring schedule. Like, let's get these cornerstone pieces of content,  identify what they are and put them to a timeline.” - Shelagh Dolan</p><p>*”What has helped me be successful in different roles is building relationships with cross functional team members and really aligning myself with subject matter experts in the company. This was my first role in ad tech. So really getting up to speed on the market and what matters most and building good relationships with our customer success reps who talk to our clients every day is important.” - Shelagh Dolan</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Shelagh Dolan, Content Marketing Manager at Quora</p><p>[1:45] Why are we talking about the<i> Real Housewives</i>?</p><p>[3:36] What does Shelagh’s work at Quora entail?</p><p>[5:16] Learn more about Quora</p><p>[7:28] What is the <i>Real Housewives </i>about?</p><p>[14:42] What makes the <i>Real Housewives</i> remarkable?</p><p>[25:04] What are marketing lessons we can take from the <i>Real Housewives</i>?</p><p>[39:41] What’s Shelagh’s content strategy?</p><p>[46:53] How does Shelagh prove the ROI of content?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.peacocktv.com/signin?return=%2Fwatch%2Fasset%2Ftv%2Fthe-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills%2F5893707088515488112">Watch the <i>Real Housewives</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shelaghdolan/">Connect with Shelagh on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.quora.com/">Learn more about Quora</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your content can go so much further than you even know.</p><p>A single video or podcast can turn into blog and Instagram posts, tweets, clips, TikTok videos, newsletters, and more. </p><p>But tackling all of that on a small marketing team can feel enormous. So this is where you divide and conquer across platforms and channels. </p><p>That’s one of the things the <i>Real Housewives</i> do really well. And what we’re chatting about today with the help of special guest, Content Marketing Manager at Quora, Shelagh Dolan. </p><p>Together, we talk about slicing and dicing your content, identifying and catering to untapped audiences, and putting underperforming content “on pause.”</p><p><strong>About our guest, Shelagh Dolan</strong></p><p>Shelagh Dolan is Content Marketing Manager at Quora. She joined the company in June of 2022 and leads content strategy for its advertising division, Quora for Business. She has over a decade of experience building content strategies for global B2B brands, aligning content with sales objectives, and driving business growth. Prior to Quora, Shelagh served as Director of Content Marketing at eMarketer and Senior Content Marketing Manager at Business Insider.</p><p><strong>About Quora</strong></p><p>Quora is a Q&A platform with over 400 million monthly unique visitors that empowers people to share and grow the world’s knowledge. The vast majority of human knowledge is still not on the internet. Most of it is trapped in the form of experience in people’s heads, or buried in books and papers that only experts can access. Founded in 2009, Quora is working to democratize access to knowledge of all kinds—so if someone out there knows something, anyone else can learn it. In February of 2023, Quora launched its second product, Poe, a platform that lets people ask questions, get instant answers, and have back-and-forth conversations with a wide variety of AI-powered bots.</p><p><strong>About the </strong><i><strong>Real Housewives</strong></i></p><p>The <i>Real Housewives </i>is a reality TV show franchise about the lives of affluent women, and it usually centers around a specific city or area. The first show was <i>The Real Housewives of Orange County, </i>which aired in 2006. It was originally called <i>Behind the Gates</i>, but Bravo decided to change the name based on the popularity of the <i>Desperate Housewives </i>and <i>The OC </i>at the time to <i>The Real Housewives of Orange County. </i>There are now 11 U.S.-based versions including <i>The Real Housewives of New York City, Atlanta, New Jersey, D.C., </i>etc. And 21 international versions, as well as a bunch of spinoffs, including <i>Vanderpump Rules.</i></p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Real Housewives</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Slice and dice your content.</strong> Create shareable pieces that project members will want to share on their own channels. It’s how you divide and conquer across platforms, and make promotion a lighter lift for everyone involved. And you get more juice out of the ‘parent’ content. In the <i>Real Housewives</i>, Shelagh says, ‘You have the show itself. Then Andy Cohen is doing <i>Watch What Happens Live</i>, where he's discussing the episode that just happened. Then on top of that, each cast member is their own brand ambassador. They do a social media post about it, reminding people to watch. They're also often live posting during the show. You combine that with the multitude of podcasts, blogs, meme accounts dedicated to recapping these episodes. It's really just like a content machine and it just keeps on giving.”</li><li><strong>Identify and cater to untapped audiences.</strong> Appeal to a wider range of people by identifying a new target audience and catering to them. The <i>Real Housewives </i>did this by creating a show that starred women in the age range of their target demographic. Meredith said, “There are about five to seven women in [the <i>Real Housewives</i>] and they're usually in their 30s to 60s. An executive with NBC Universal said that often, women in that age group are overlooked, and so they really wanted to appeal to that demographic, and it would be a new audience for them. So they were drawing in people that they weren't already attracting to their content.”</li><li><strong>Put underperforming content “on pause”.</strong> Be unflinchingly honest about the content that’s getting poor engagement. Use that data to inform your next move and make adjustments as needed. Shelagh says, “[Bravo will] have the hard conversations if viewership is falling off. They definitely monitor qualitatively the social media discussions happening around individuals as well as seasons overall. And they will call someone and fire them if it's not working out and bring someone new on. There's been a few people that - they call it ‘putting on pause.’ They put them on pause, which is a nice way of saying, ‘please don't come back,’ and maybe there'll be something in the future.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Sometimes you have to make the tough call. Like, ‘This person isn't good in the content and we need to bring somebody else in who might be more junior. Or maybe we have to platform this person because they are important strategically to our company.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”[I realized that] I'm doing random acts of marketing. So let's see how we can get this to be more structured. So really bringing order to processes and following kind of like how the housewives have a recurring schedule. Like, let's get these cornerstone pieces of content,  identify what they are and put them to a timeline.” - Shelagh Dolan</p><p>*”What has helped me be successful in different roles is building relationships with cross functional team members and really aligning myself with subject matter experts in the company. This was my first role in ad tech. So really getting up to speed on the market and what matters most and building good relationships with our customer success reps who talk to our clients every day is important.” - Shelagh Dolan</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Shelagh Dolan, Content Marketing Manager at Quora</p><p>[1:45] Why are we talking about the<i> Real Housewives</i>?</p><p>[3:36] What does Shelagh’s work at Quora entail?</p><p>[5:16] Learn more about Quora</p><p>[7:28] What is the <i>Real Housewives </i>about?</p><p>[14:42] What makes the <i>Real Housewives</i> remarkable?</p><p>[25:04] What are marketing lessons we can take from the <i>Real Housewives</i>?</p><p>[39:41] What’s Shelagh’s content strategy?</p><p>[46:53] How does Shelagh prove the ROI of content?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.peacocktv.com/signin?return=%2Fwatch%2Fasset%2Ftv%2Fthe-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills%2F5893707088515488112">Watch the <i>Real Housewives</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shelaghdolan/">Connect with Shelagh on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.quora.com/">Learn more about Quora</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>Your content can go so much further than you even know.

A single video or podcast can turn into blog and Instagram posts, tweets, clips, TikTok videos, newsletters, and more. 

But tackling all of that on a small marketing team can feel enormous. So this is where you divide and conquer across platforms and channels. 

That’s one of the things the Real Housewives do really well. And what we’re chatting about today with the help of special guest, Content Marketing Manager at Quora, Shelagh Dolan. 

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That’s one of the things the Real Housewives do really well. And what we’re chatting about today with the help of special guest, Content Marketing Manager at Quora, Shelagh Dolan. 

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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Your product is a life hack. Or maybe it’s technically a work hack. Use that to your advantage.</p><p>Because everyone wants work to be easier, to go more smoothly, to be more efficient. </p><p>So if you can serve them up a shortcut that feels like a secret and looks pretty too, they’ll be easy to convert. </p><p>That’s why we’re taking lessons from Stanley and how they unlocked a whole new audience with the release of their life hack: the Quencher. </p><p>Together with Celigo’s Content Director, Leah Westfall, we chat about marketing your product as a lifehack, tapping into the FOMO, and offering aesthetic options.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Leah Westfall</strong></p><p>Leah Westfall is Content Director at Celigo, a leading integration platform-as-a-service (iPaaS). She joined the company in August 2024. At Celigo, she is building a team of content strategists and writers, and working to bring their    platform to market through full-funnel integrated campaigns. Prior to her current role, she co-founded innovative software platform Moxie. There, she also shaped the go-to-market and content strategies. She has also previously served as Director of Content Marketing at RingCentral and Content Manager at Connect First, Inc.</p><p><strong>About Celigo</strong></p><p>Celigo is the leading enterprise-grade integration platform that blends cutting-edge AI with technology, enabling organizations to discover, automate, and optimize every business process. ​​The Celigo platform is called “Integator.io.” About 1000+ customers use it. Celigo’s customers use it to set up integrations to and from NetSuite, Salesforce, Hubspot, and 100s of other connectors.</p><p><strong>About Stanley</strong></p><p>The company has been around since 1913. It was founded by William Stanley Jr., who was an inventor. And he created a vacuum-sealed steel bottle that would keep whatever was inside hot or cold, longer. Stanley has become known for making long-lasting functional products. For the longest time, their hammertone green steel thermoses were what your grandfather or dad would take camping or to work. </p><p>Now, the Stanley Quencher has become really popular among women primarily. It’s now less of a purely utilitarian object, and more of a fashion accessory. The Quencher is a steel bottle with a lid and straw. The bottom is tapered so it fits in a cup holder. It comes in different sizes, but it was originally a 40-ounce bottle. And you can get it in tons of different colors, and even customize it with different designs. It retails for $45 dollars and up.</p><p>The popularity has been credited to various blogs and sites over the past few years. But it’s mainly thought that sisters Ashlee LeSueur and Taylor Cannon along with their cousin, Linley Hutchinson who run e-commerce blog <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/17/style/stanley-tumbler.html">The Buy Guide</a>, were the ones responsible for its recent surge in sales. The Quencher was one of the first products featured in 2017.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>the Stanley Quencher:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Market your product as a life hack.</strong> Let your audience into a little secret: Your product will make their lives easier, save them time, and streamline their workflow. Leah says, “People want to do their jobs better, faster, smarter, more efficiently. So are we able to provide a hack or a tool that allows people to go and solve their pain point or solve the thing that's so annoying in their day to day business? It's like, is there a way to do this better?”</li><li><strong>Tap into the FOMO. </strong>Leverage your superfans with a large social audience to evangelize your brand and amplify a sense of FOMO, or likewise, inclusivity. Leah says, “It’s like, ‘Oh, I see somebody with this and they look like me. So if they're using that, I should probably use that too,’ or like, ‘We're similar because we both appreciate the same things and live this active lifestyle and want to be healthy. So if she has it, I should probably have it also.’ Because we buy the same things. We have a similar mindset. We have the same goals. We have the same pain points. So people are drawn to this feeling of inclusivity.” Ian adds that Stanley also creates demand by releasing limited runs of their tumblers. He says, “The constrained nature of the supply and demand aspect is always interesting. Like, that there's a limited number and they would keep selling out. Everybody always wants something that's sold out.”</li><li><strong>Offer aesthetic options. </strong>It could be as simple as letting customers choose their color, or customizing what their product looks like. Ian says, “the colors [of the Stanley Quencher] are really cool, and they do 100 percent stand out. And I think there's just a great marketing lesson here about variety being the spice of life. People like to accessorize. Not just to accessorize their bodies or their appearance, but people just like having options.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”A water bottle doesn’t have to be just red or blue anymore. You can get matte orchid or ice cream pink. And it's flipping the idea that it has to come in a really outdoorsy kind of color. What use to be red, blue, or green now comes in pale pink. It's like, ‘Oh, that was made for me.’ It gives people the option or chance to have their identity tied into your product a little bit.” - Leah Westfall</p><p>*”One thing that’s so important is this idea of the influencer. Finding them and using those channels. Then you need to find a way to accelerate them. Once they're out there and they're doing their thing, the secondary piece is getting your customers in the same room as your prospects. That's a big thing for B2B marketing. Use your influencers, use your key customers, help accelerate their stories, let them tell it in an authentic way, and then put them in virtual rooms or physical rooms, in digital spaces with prospects so that they can then share their stories organically.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”We are all consumers by nature. But we can tell when we're being marketed to, and that's such a turnoff, especially to younger generations. So tell that story in a really authentic way, like in a case study or a customer success story, allowing the people to be like, ‘We didn't know what we were doing. We just went out and we had this major problem,’ being really honest and raw. That's good marketing and good storytelling because of the authenticity.” - Leah Westfall</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet the Content Director at Celigo, Leah Westfall</p><p>[1:49] Why are we talking about the Stanley Quencher?</p><p>[3:04] What does Leah’s role at Celigo entail?</p><p>[4:04] Tell me more about Stanley and the Quencher tumbler</p><p>[12:28] What makes the Stanley Quencher remarkable?</p><p>[22:26] What marketing lessons can we take from Stanley and the Quencher?</p><p>[41:42] What’s Leah’s content strategy?</p><p>[43:54] What upcoming projects is Leah working on at Celigo?</p><p>[45:22] What advice would Leah give other marketing professionals?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.stanley1913.com/collections/adventure-quencher-travel-tumblers?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=b-quencher&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA29auBhBxEiwAnKcSqi_1XXMNiTDqmzkR3DCt8CBUKfCNleIBm-mrNnxdQvDwoDG1HMfh7BoCxEIQAvD_BwE">Get a Stanley Quencher</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/leahwestfall/">Connect with Leah on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.celigo.com/">Learn more about Celigo</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your product is a life hack. Or maybe it’s technically a work hack. Use that to your advantage.</p><p>Because everyone wants work to be easier, to go more smoothly, to be more efficient. </p><p>So if you can serve them up a shortcut that feels like a secret and looks pretty too, they’ll be easy to convert. </p><p>That’s why we’re taking lessons from Stanley and how they unlocked a whole new audience with the release of their life hack: the Quencher. </p><p>Together with Celigo’s Content Director, Leah Westfall, we chat about marketing your product as a lifehack, tapping into the FOMO, and offering aesthetic options.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Leah Westfall</strong></p><p>Leah Westfall is Content Director at Celigo, a leading integration platform-as-a-service (iPaaS). She joined the company in August 2024. At Celigo, she is building a team of content strategists and writers, and working to bring their    platform to market through full-funnel integrated campaigns. Prior to her current role, she co-founded innovative software platform Moxie. There, she also shaped the go-to-market and content strategies. She has also previously served as Director of Content Marketing at RingCentral and Content Manager at Connect First, Inc.</p><p><strong>About Celigo</strong></p><p>Celigo is the leading enterprise-grade integration platform that blends cutting-edge AI with technology, enabling organizations to discover, automate, and optimize every business process. ​​The Celigo platform is called “Integator.io.” About 1000+ customers use it. Celigo’s customers use it to set up integrations to and from NetSuite, Salesforce, Hubspot, and 100s of other connectors.</p><p><strong>About Stanley</strong></p><p>The company has been around since 1913. It was founded by William Stanley Jr., who was an inventor. And he created a vacuum-sealed steel bottle that would keep whatever was inside hot or cold, longer. Stanley has become known for making long-lasting functional products. For the longest time, their hammertone green steel thermoses were what your grandfather or dad would take camping or to work. </p><p>Now, the Stanley Quencher has become really popular among women primarily. It’s now less of a purely utilitarian object, and more of a fashion accessory. The Quencher is a steel bottle with a lid and straw. The bottom is tapered so it fits in a cup holder. It comes in different sizes, but it was originally a 40-ounce bottle. And you can get it in tons of different colors, and even customize it with different designs. It retails for $45 dollars and up.</p><p>The popularity has been credited to various blogs and sites over the past few years. But it’s mainly thought that sisters Ashlee LeSueur and Taylor Cannon along with their cousin, Linley Hutchinson who run e-commerce blog <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/17/style/stanley-tumbler.html">The Buy Guide</a>, were the ones responsible for its recent surge in sales. The Quencher was one of the first products featured in 2017.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>the Stanley Quencher:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Market your product as a life hack.</strong> Let your audience into a little secret: Your product will make their lives easier, save them time, and streamline their workflow. Leah says, “People want to do their jobs better, faster, smarter, more efficiently. So are we able to provide a hack or a tool that allows people to go and solve their pain point or solve the thing that's so annoying in their day to day business? It's like, is there a way to do this better?”</li><li><strong>Tap into the FOMO. </strong>Leverage your superfans with a large social audience to evangelize your brand and amplify a sense of FOMO, or likewise, inclusivity. Leah says, “It’s like, ‘Oh, I see somebody with this and they look like me. So if they're using that, I should probably use that too,’ or like, ‘We're similar because we both appreciate the same things and live this active lifestyle and want to be healthy. So if she has it, I should probably have it also.’ Because we buy the same things. We have a similar mindset. We have the same goals. We have the same pain points. So people are drawn to this feeling of inclusivity.” Ian adds that Stanley also creates demand by releasing limited runs of their tumblers. He says, “The constrained nature of the supply and demand aspect is always interesting. Like, that there's a limited number and they would keep selling out. Everybody always wants something that's sold out.”</li><li><strong>Offer aesthetic options. </strong>It could be as simple as letting customers choose their color, or customizing what their product looks like. Ian says, “the colors [of the Stanley Quencher] are really cool, and they do 100 percent stand out. And I think there's just a great marketing lesson here about variety being the spice of life. People like to accessorize. Not just to accessorize their bodies or their appearance, but people just like having options.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”A water bottle doesn’t have to be just red or blue anymore. You can get matte orchid or ice cream pink. And it's flipping the idea that it has to come in a really outdoorsy kind of color. What use to be red, blue, or green now comes in pale pink. It's like, ‘Oh, that was made for me.’ It gives people the option or chance to have their identity tied into your product a little bit.” - Leah Westfall</p><p>*”One thing that’s so important is this idea of the influencer. Finding them and using those channels. Then you need to find a way to accelerate them. Once they're out there and they're doing their thing, the secondary piece is getting your customers in the same room as your prospects. That's a big thing for B2B marketing. Use your influencers, use your key customers, help accelerate their stories, let them tell it in an authentic way, and then put them in virtual rooms or physical rooms, in digital spaces with prospects so that they can then share their stories organically.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”We are all consumers by nature. But we can tell when we're being marketed to, and that's such a turnoff, especially to younger generations. So tell that story in a really authentic way, like in a case study or a customer success story, allowing the people to be like, ‘We didn't know what we were doing. We just went out and we had this major problem,’ being really honest and raw. That's good marketing and good storytelling because of the authenticity.” - Leah Westfall</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet the Content Director at Celigo, Leah Westfall</p><p>[1:49] Why are we talking about the Stanley Quencher?</p><p>[3:04] What does Leah’s role at Celigo entail?</p><p>[4:04] Tell me more about Stanley and the Quencher tumbler</p><p>[12:28] What makes the Stanley Quencher remarkable?</p><p>[22:26] What marketing lessons can we take from Stanley and the Quencher?</p><p>[41:42] What’s Leah’s content strategy?</p><p>[43:54] What upcoming projects is Leah working on at Celigo?</p><p>[45:22] What advice would Leah give other marketing professionals?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.stanley1913.com/collections/adventure-quencher-travel-tumblers?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=b-quencher&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA29auBhBxEiwAnKcSqi_1XXMNiTDqmzkR3DCt8CBUKfCNleIBm-mrNnxdQvDwoDG1HMfh7BoCxEIQAvD_BwE">Get a Stanley Quencher</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/leahwestfall/">Connect with Leah on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.celigo.com/">Learn more about Celigo</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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Because everyone wants work to be easier, to go more smoothly, to be more efficient. 

So if you can serve them up a shortcut that feels like a secret and looks pretty too, they’ll be easy to convert. 

That’s why we’re taking lessons from Stanley and how they unlocked a whole new audience with the release of their life hack: the Quencher. 

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That’s why we’re taking lessons from Stanley and how they unlocked a whole new audience with the release of their life hack: the Quencher. 

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      <description><![CDATA[<p>It doesn’t take magic to make content that resonates. You just have to be real. </p><p>Show your audience that you “get” them by catering to their cares, frustrations, and the reality of their day-to-day lives.</p><p>But to do this, you really have to know your audience and their lived experience. </p><p>Just like how Jeff Kinney wrote a runaway hit inspired by his lived experience as a boy. The key is that though the main character, Greg, wasn’t a hero, he was believable…and maybe a bit wimpy at times.</p><p>That’s right, we’re talking about <i>Diary of a Wimpy Kid </i>today with Founder of Furmanov Marketing Consulting, Anna Furmanov. Together, we talk about making a comic, entertaining before educating, and writing in your audience’s language.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Anna Furmanov</strong></p><p>Anna Furmanov is Founder of Furmanov Marketing Consulting, aka the Marie Kondo of startup marketing, helping clean up early stage startups. She has more than 12 years of marketing experience at big name brands like Groupon, Blistex, Del Monte Foods, and startups. She has also led marketing at two venture-backed Series A/B tech startups. She is the host of the Modern Startup Marketing podcast.</p><p><strong>About Furmanov Marketing Consulting</strong></p><p>At Furmanov Marketing Consulting, Anna acts as a Fractional Head of Marketing, helping VC-backed early stage startup founders and marketing leaders implement marketing programs that drive revenue. She helps startups in industries like  e-commerce, ed tech, higher ed tech, food tech, security tech, sales tech, martech, innovation tech, developer tech and more.</p><p><strong>About</strong><i><strong> Diary of a Wimpy Kid</strong></i></p><p><i>Diary of a Wimpy Kid </i>is a children’s book series about a boy named Greg Heffley. It’s his journal about navigating middle school and his relationships with his friends and family. It was created by Jeff Kinney based on his own experience growing up. </p><p>Jeff Kinney started working on <i>Diary of a Wimpy Kid</i> in 1998 as a nostalgic book for adults. And it wasn’t until 2006 when he brought a sample manuscript to New York ComicCon when it was picked up by the publishing company Abrams. He signed a multi-book deal with them for a series and the first one was published in 2007. </p><p>Now there are 17 books in 84 editions and it’s been translated into 69 languages. More than 275 million copies have been sold globally. There are three spin-off books within the Awesome Friendly Kid series, four live action films, two animated films on Disney+, and a musical as well as tons of licensed products. There are even emojis and a Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade Balloon of Greg.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Diary of a Wimpy Kid</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Make a comic.</strong> Literally just turn your next blog post or ad into a comic. The style says anything BUT boring B2B marketing. Anna says, “This could really flip blog posts on their heads, right? Or case studies. If we would mimic something like <i>Diary of a Wimpy Kid</i>, and how they lay things out with words and pictures to tell a story, that's essentially what <i>Diary of a Wimpy Kid</i> is. You could mimic that and create something that looks so different from a typical blog post or case study or any long form content. Because that's the beauty of marketing, right? It's about trying out new ideas and seeing what sticks.”</li><li><strong>Entertain, then educate.</strong> Prioritize sharing content tailored to your audience’s interests, attitudes, and values. It shows that you “get” them. And your audience is more likely to re-share it.  Anna says, “A lot of content strategies are focused on educating and not as many are focused on entertaining. Kids want to get entertained. Adults want to get entertained, too. So don't forget about the entertaining side when you think about the purpose of your content. Like the absurdity of sales, the absurdity of marketing, the absurdity of your target buyer’s workday experience. That could be entertaining, too. It could be funny. It hooks you in. It keeps you coming back.”</li><li><strong>Write like your audience talks.</strong> Use “wanna” and “gonna” instead of “want to” and “going to.” Show that there’s a human behind the content by writing like you talk. At least in the formats that allow for a casual tone, like on LinkedIn or on your blog. Anna says, “You're not here to just be fake. You're here to be real. Creating a space for other people to be real with you. Which creates connection, which creates likability. So I use “wanna,” and “gonna,” and I think people connect to me much easier because of that. They like the posts I put out on LinkedIn, and I use those words when I post on LinkedIn. Sometimes I use it in my monthly newsletter. I never use that in my client contracts because I think that's going too far. But in my content, I'm going to use words like “wanna,” and “gonna,” because I think there's a place and a space to do that, and I pick that as my vibe. And Ian adds, “the message is not necessarily that you should use conversational language all the time. It's that you should use the conversational language of who you're selling to.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”I've seen a lot of case studies that just look the same. They're boring. How can you weave more emotion into case studies? I know it's possible. Because one of the questions I like to ask in my Voice of Customer research work is, ‘How has this tool, platform, whatever, changed your life?’ And that's a big deal. That's emotional. When you hear the answers, maybe it's something that you can blow up a little bit more, make people laugh, make people cry. Overall, how can you make people feel more connected over the emotional stuff?” - Anna Furmanov</p><p>*”What is your personality? What's your vibe? A security startup might not want to use “wanna” or “gonna”. That's fine, but at least figure it out so that you have a direction and a roadmap for what you want your content to look like, sound like, feel like, because it's a package. You put it together, and the way that you show up online is a package of who you are and whether people will want to connect with that or not.” - Anna Furmanov</p><p>*”When you live with children, you're in those moments and I think it's easier to write about. But tying back to B2B though, you don't live with your target buyer, right? But somehow you have to mimic that knowledge of what they're feeling, what they're frustrated about. So that's why it's so important to check in with them and to have these Voice of Customer research conversations. I can't emphasize enough how important it is to do that. You can't write a book about something from that perspective if you're not in it. You can't write content if you're not in some way in it, right? And super in the community, talking to people, understanding their goals and challenges and emotions and frustrations and what they're worried about and what they're excited about. You just can't. So since you don't live with them, you have to kind of artificially create that.” - Anna Furmanov</p><p>*”Start with the foundational stuff like voice of customer research. Having these conversations with five to ten of your customers or prospects, understanding them, understanding how they relate to you, why they picked you, what's your differentiated value, all that is really important. And then tie that back into your content strategy.” - Anna Furmanov</p><p>*”What's my wedge? What is my point of view? What point of view will I own? What's that unique insight that only I have, or very few people have, very few people are talking about? What are the stories that are not being told yet that should be told?” - Anna Furmanov</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Anna Furmanov, Founder of Furmanov Marketing Consulting</p><p>[2:16] Why are we talking about <i>Diary of a Wimpy Kid</i>?</p><p>[5:29] What does Anna’s work at Furmanov Marketing Consulting entail?</p><p>[8:16] What is <i>Diary of a Wimpy Kid </i>about?</p><p>[12:09] What’s remarkable about <i>Diary of a Wimpy Kid</i>?</p><p>[22:36] What marketing lessons can we take from <i>Diary of a Wimpy Kid</i>?</p><p>[38:02] What advice would Anna give other marketing professionals?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://wimpykid.com/books/">Read <i>Diary of a Wimpy Kid</i></a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/modern-startup-marketing/id1534533276">Subscribe to the Modern Startup Marketing podcast</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/annafurmanov/">Connect with Anna on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://furmanovmarketing.com/">Learn more about Furmanov Marketing Consulting</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn’t take magic to make content that resonates. You just have to be real. </p><p>Show your audience that you “get” them by catering to their cares, frustrations, and the reality of their day-to-day lives.</p><p>But to do this, you really have to know your audience and their lived experience. </p><p>Just like how Jeff Kinney wrote a runaway hit inspired by his lived experience as a boy. The key is that though the main character, Greg, wasn’t a hero, he was believable…and maybe a bit wimpy at times.</p><p>That’s right, we’re talking about <i>Diary of a Wimpy Kid </i>today with Founder of Furmanov Marketing Consulting, Anna Furmanov. Together, we talk about making a comic, entertaining before educating, and writing in your audience’s language.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Anna Furmanov</strong></p><p>Anna Furmanov is Founder of Furmanov Marketing Consulting, aka the Marie Kondo of startup marketing, helping clean up early stage startups. 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It was created by Jeff Kinney based on his own experience growing up. </p><p>Jeff Kinney started working on <i>Diary of a Wimpy Kid</i> in 1998 as a nostalgic book for adults. And it wasn’t until 2006 when he brought a sample manuscript to New York ComicCon when it was picked up by the publishing company Abrams. He signed a multi-book deal with them for a series and the first one was published in 2007. </p><p>Now there are 17 books in 84 editions and it’s been translated into 69 languages. More than 275 million copies have been sold globally. There are three spin-off books within the Awesome Friendly Kid series, four live action films, two animated films on Disney+, and a musical as well as tons of licensed products. There are even emojis and a Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade Balloon of Greg.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Diary of a Wimpy Kid</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Make a comic.</strong> Literally just turn your next blog post or ad into a comic. The style says anything BUT boring B2B marketing. Anna says, “This could really flip blog posts on their heads, right? Or case studies. If we would mimic something like <i>Diary of a Wimpy Kid</i>, and how they lay things out with words and pictures to tell a story, that's essentially what <i>Diary of a Wimpy Kid</i> is. You could mimic that and create something that looks so different from a typical blog post or case study or any long form content. Because that's the beauty of marketing, right? It's about trying out new ideas and seeing what sticks.”</li><li><strong>Entertain, then educate.</strong> Prioritize sharing content tailored to your audience’s interests, attitudes, and values. It shows that you “get” them. And your audience is more likely to re-share it.  Anna says, “A lot of content strategies are focused on educating and not as many are focused on entertaining. Kids want to get entertained. Adults want to get entertained, too. So don't forget about the entertaining side when you think about the purpose of your content. Like the absurdity of sales, the absurdity of marketing, the absurdity of your target buyer’s workday experience. That could be entertaining, too. It could be funny. It hooks you in. It keeps you coming back.”</li><li><strong>Write like your audience talks.</strong> Use “wanna” and “gonna” instead of “want to” and “going to.” Show that there’s a human behind the content by writing like you talk. At least in the formats that allow for a casual tone, like on LinkedIn or on your blog. Anna says, “You're not here to just be fake. You're here to be real. Creating a space for other people to be real with you. Which creates connection, which creates likability. So I use “wanna,” and “gonna,” and I think people connect to me much easier because of that. They like the posts I put out on LinkedIn, and I use those words when I post on LinkedIn. Sometimes I use it in my monthly newsletter. I never use that in my client contracts because I think that's going too far. But in my content, I'm going to use words like “wanna,” and “gonna,” because I think there's a place and a space to do that, and I pick that as my vibe. And Ian adds, “the message is not necessarily that you should use conversational language all the time. It's that you should use the conversational language of who you're selling to.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”I've seen a lot of case studies that just look the same. They're boring. How can you weave more emotion into case studies? I know it's possible. Because one of the questions I like to ask in my Voice of Customer research work is, ‘How has this tool, platform, whatever, changed your life?’ And that's a big deal. That's emotional. When you hear the answers, maybe it's something that you can blow up a little bit more, make people laugh, make people cry. Overall, how can you make people feel more connected over the emotional stuff?” - Anna Furmanov</p><p>*”What is your personality? What's your vibe? A security startup might not want to use “wanna” or “gonna”. That's fine, but at least figure it out so that you have a direction and a roadmap for what you want your content to look like, sound like, feel like, because it's a package. You put it together, and the way that you show up online is a package of who you are and whether people will want to connect with that or not.” - Anna Furmanov</p><p>*”When you live with children, you're in those moments and I think it's easier to write about. 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Having these conversations with five to ten of your customers or prospects, understanding them, understanding how they relate to you, why they picked you, what's your differentiated value, all that is really important. And then tie that back into your content strategy.” - Anna Furmanov</p><p>*”What's my wedge? What is my point of view? What point of view will I own? What's that unique insight that only I have, or very few people have, very few people are talking about? What are the stories that are not being told yet that should be told?” - Anna Furmanov</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Anna Furmanov, Founder of Furmanov Marketing Consulting</p><p>[2:16] Why are we talking about <i>Diary of a Wimpy Kid</i>?</p><p>[5:29] What does Anna’s work at Furmanov Marketing Consulting entail?</p><p>[8:16] What is <i>Diary of a Wimpy Kid </i>about?</p><p>[12:09] What’s remarkable about <i>Diary of a Wimpy Kid</i>?</p><p>[22:36] What marketing lessons can we take from <i>Diary of a Wimpy Kid</i>?</p><p>[38:02] What advice would Anna give other marketing professionals?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://wimpykid.com/books/">Read <i>Diary of a Wimpy Kid</i></a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/modern-startup-marketing/id1534533276">Subscribe to the Modern Startup Marketing podcast</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/annafurmanov/">Connect with Anna on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://furmanovmarketing.com/">Learn more about Furmanov Marketing Consulting</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. 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Show your audience that you “get” them by catering to their cares, frustrations, and the reality of their day-to-day lives.

But to do this, you really have to know your audience and their lived experience. 

Just like how Jeff Kinney wrote a runaway hit inspired by his lived experience as a boy. The key is that though the main character, Greg, wasn’t a hero, he was believable…and maybe a bit wimpy at times.

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Just like how Jeff Kinney wrote a runaway hit inspired by his lived experience as a boy. The key is that though the main character, Greg, wasn’t a hero, he was believable…and maybe a bit wimpy at times.

That’s right, we’re talking about Diary of a Wimpy Kid today with Founder of Furmanov Marketing Consulting, Anna Furmanov. Together, we talk about making a comic, entertaining before educating, and writing in your audience’s language.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Don’t try to sell your product. Sell your story.</p><p>Your audience mentally unsubscribes from you if you try too hard to <i>just</i> sell your product. Instead, tell a compelling story around the product that people will want to share with their friends.</p><p>That’s what we’re talking about in this episode with the help of special guest, Director of Content & Thought Leadership at Clari, Devin Reed. Together, we talk about creating a piece of fiction, painting a “before” and “after” picture, and including a moment that resonates emotionally with your audience in every piece of content.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Devin Reed</strong></p><p>Devin is a sales pro turned marketing leader. He built and scaled Gong's content strategy, one of the most successful B2B SaaS brands, and now he's Head of Content at Clari. He's also an advisor, newsletter author, and writer for his consulting firm, TheReeder.co.</p><p><strong>About Clari</strong></p><p>Clari’s Revenue Platform improves efficiency, predictability, and growth across the entire revenue process. Clari gives revenue teams total visibility into their business, to drive process rigor, spot risk and opportunity in the pipeline, increase forecast accuracy, and drive overall efficiency. Thousands of sales, marketing, and customer success teams at leading companies, including Okta, Adobe, Workday, Zoom, and Finastra, use Clari’s execution insights to make their revenue process more connected, efficient, and predictable.</p><p><strong>About niche sports documentaries</strong></p><p>Niche sports documentaries are by definition about a small, specialized segment of the sports world. And “niche” can be considered as a relative term. So for instance, instead of being about football, baseball, basketball, or soccer, it’s about golf, tennis, boxing or even more niche like rock climbing, fencing, Formula 1 racing, skydiving, etc. </p><p>These documentaries attract and retain viewership because they focus on the drama behind the sports to appeal to more viewers. There’s an emphasis on high stakes, and the character-driven drama helps viewers connect more deeply with the competitors. The documentaries also take the time to teach you about the sport, including the rules, jargon, major competitors and their relationships.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Niche Sports Documentaries:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Create a piece of fiction. </strong>The storytelling in your campaign doesn’t have to be true. Ian says, “You control the narrative, you control the characters, you control everything, and you can tell the exact story that you want, rather than finding the story.” It gives you control to craft a great narrative around your product. Devin says - though it’s not about a sport - <i>The Queen’s Gambit </i>was a piece of fiction and it sold a ton of chess sets. He says, “The best way to promote chess boards is not to tell me about chess boards.” It’s to share the human stories that viewers will relate to and draw them to the product.</li><li><strong>Paint the “before” and “after” picture.</strong> Show your prospects the benefits of your product by showing them the struggles and frustrations the product will solve. Make the case for doing business with you by juxtaposing their life before the purchase, and the improvements after. Devin says, “Typically, the execs are so obsessed with their product that they want the case study just to say all the good things that the customer got once they started using the tool, but that's only half of the story. What people really want is conflict, tension, and controversy, because that's what makes a good story. Most case studies don't have the ‘before.’ Who was the customer before? What were the struggles before? What were the feelings that they had before? And then what was the catalyst or the climax of like why decided something had to change? All of that needs to be in your customer stories.”</li><li><strong>Is there an “Oh, sh*t” moment?</strong> Devin says when he’s editing content, there needs to be a moment of revelation or relatability or surprise. In other words, you need to make your audience think and engage more deeply about the topic. To <i>feel </i>something. Devin says, “where their eyebrows move because there's something emotional, whether it's confusing - and when I say confusing, I'm thinking like, ‘Oh, I'm not sure I understand that all the way. Let me think through that,’ or it excites them. It has to have some sort of moment like that, because that’s what makes it shareable. That's what makes people want to talk about it. And that's what gets people in the pocket that you want to sell to.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”There's not really such a thing as ‘too long.’ Because it's not about length; It's about potency and pace. How much value, insight, and actionable tips are in as few words as possible. And is it kind of a breeze to read or a breeze to watch where you're not checking your watch? Like, ‘Oh crap, there's still an hour left in this movie.’” - Devin Reed</p><p>*”That hook and that compelling untold story, that's what I like to hear. It infiltrates my head and then I can start to use that in my marketing. We're like, ‘How can I use suspense? How can I use a hook in 30 seconds? How can I shock people and move their eyebrows every two minutes so they stick with me?’ And then when the show's over, they're like, ‘So when's the next thing Devin's putting out? Cause I need more of this.’” - Devin Reed</p><p>*”If you press product on people, they don't want to hear it. They mentally unsubscribe.  You’ve got to create content in some way that does what's happening right now, where we are all excited to tell each other about what we're watching or we consumed and how we feel about it.” - Devin Reed</p><p>*”When I'm editing content, video, written, pod, whatever,  I'm like, ‘At what point is the payoff?’ When I click that link, there's an automatic timer that starts in your head, even if subconsciously, of ‘When do I get the payoff? When do I get what was promised to me?’” - Devin Reed</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Devin Reed, Director of Content & Thought Leadership at Clari</p><p>[2:04] Learn more about Devin’s role at Clari</p><p>[2:57] Tell me about Devin’s newsletter, <i>The Reeder</i></p><p>[5:41] Why are we talking about niche sports documentaries?</p><p>[8:03] Why are these documentaries remarkable?</p><p>[18:36] What are niche sports documentaries?</p><p>[26:24] What are marketing lessons we can take from these documentaries?</p><p>[33:08] How does Devin get executive buy-in on his content?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80198306">Check out niche sports documentaries like <i>Losers</i> on Netflix</a></p><p><a href="https://thereeder.co/newsletter/">Subscribe to Devin’s newsletter, <i>The Reeder</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/devinreed/">Connect with Devin on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.clari.com/">Learn more about Clari</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Ian Faison, Devin Reed, Meredith Gooderham, Scott Goodrich)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don’t try to sell your product. Sell your story.</p><p>Your audience mentally unsubscribes from you if you try too hard to <i>just</i> sell your product. Instead, tell a compelling story around the product that people will want to share with their friends.</p><p>That’s what we’re talking about in this episode with the help of special guest, Director of Content & Thought Leadership at Clari, Devin Reed. Together, we talk about creating a piece of fiction, painting a “before” and “after” picture, and including a moment that resonates emotionally with your audience in every piece of content.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Devin Reed</strong></p><p>Devin is a sales pro turned marketing leader. He built and scaled Gong's content strategy, one of the most successful B2B SaaS brands, and now he's Head of Content at Clari. He's also an advisor, newsletter author, and writer for his consulting firm, TheReeder.co.</p><p><strong>About Clari</strong></p><p>Clari’s Revenue Platform improves efficiency, predictability, and growth across the entire revenue process. Clari gives revenue teams total visibility into their business, to drive process rigor, spot risk and opportunity in the pipeline, increase forecast accuracy, and drive overall efficiency. Thousands of sales, marketing, and customer success teams at leading companies, including Okta, Adobe, Workday, Zoom, and Finastra, use Clari’s execution insights to make their revenue process more connected, efficient, and predictable.</p><p><strong>About niche sports documentaries</strong></p><p>Niche sports documentaries are by definition about a small, specialized segment of the sports world. And “niche” can be considered as a relative term. So for instance, instead of being about football, baseball, basketball, or soccer, it’s about golf, tennis, boxing or even more niche like rock climbing, fencing, Formula 1 racing, skydiving, etc. </p><p>These documentaries attract and retain viewership because they focus on the drama behind the sports to appeal to more viewers. There’s an emphasis on high stakes, and the character-driven drama helps viewers connect more deeply with the competitors. The documentaries also take the time to teach you about the sport, including the rules, jargon, major competitors and their relationships.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Niche Sports Documentaries:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Create a piece of fiction. </strong>The storytelling in your campaign doesn’t have to be true. Ian says, “You control the narrative, you control the characters, you control everything, and you can tell the exact story that you want, rather than finding the story.” It gives you control to craft a great narrative around your product. Devin says - though it’s not about a sport - <i>The Queen’s Gambit </i>was a piece of fiction and it sold a ton of chess sets. He says, “The best way to promote chess boards is not to tell me about chess boards.” It’s to share the human stories that viewers will relate to and draw them to the product.</li><li><strong>Paint the “before” and “after” picture.</strong> Show your prospects the benefits of your product by showing them the struggles and frustrations the product will solve. Make the case for doing business with you by juxtaposing their life before the purchase, and the improvements after. Devin says, “Typically, the execs are so obsessed with their product that they want the case study just to say all the good things that the customer got once they started using the tool, but that's only half of the story. What people really want is conflict, tension, and controversy, because that's what makes a good story. Most case studies don't have the ‘before.’ Who was the customer before? What were the struggles before? What were the feelings that they had before? And then what was the catalyst or the climax of like why decided something had to change? All of that needs to be in your customer stories.”</li><li><strong>Is there an “Oh, sh*t” moment?</strong> Devin says when he’s editing content, there needs to be a moment of revelation or relatability or surprise. In other words, you need to make your audience think and engage more deeply about the topic. To <i>feel </i>something. Devin says, “where their eyebrows move because there's something emotional, whether it's confusing - and when I say confusing, I'm thinking like, ‘Oh, I'm not sure I understand that all the way. Let me think through that,’ or it excites them. It has to have some sort of moment like that, because that’s what makes it shareable. That's what makes people want to talk about it. And that's what gets people in the pocket that you want to sell to.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”There's not really such a thing as ‘too long.’ Because it's not about length; It's about potency and pace. How much value, insight, and actionable tips are in as few words as possible. And is it kind of a breeze to read or a breeze to watch where you're not checking your watch? Like, ‘Oh crap, there's still an hour left in this movie.’” - Devin Reed</p><p>*”That hook and that compelling untold story, that's what I like to hear. It infiltrates my head and then I can start to use that in my marketing. We're like, ‘How can I use suspense? How can I use a hook in 30 seconds? How can I shock people and move their eyebrows every two minutes so they stick with me?’ And then when the show's over, they're like, ‘So when's the next thing Devin's putting out? Cause I need more of this.’” - Devin Reed</p><p>*”If you press product on people, they don't want to hear it. They mentally unsubscribe.  You’ve got to create content in some way that does what's happening right now, where we are all excited to tell each other about what we're watching or we consumed and how we feel about it.” - Devin Reed</p><p>*”When I'm editing content, video, written, pod, whatever,  I'm like, ‘At what point is the payoff?’ When I click that link, there's an automatic timer that starts in your head, even if subconsciously, of ‘When do I get the payoff? When do I get what was promised to me?’” - Devin Reed</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Devin Reed, Director of Content & Thought Leadership at Clari</p><p>[2:04] Learn more about Devin’s role at Clari</p><p>[2:57] Tell me about Devin’s newsletter, <i>The Reeder</i></p><p>[5:41] Why are we talking about niche sports documentaries?</p><p>[8:03] Why are these documentaries remarkable?</p><p>[18:36] What are niche sports documentaries?</p><p>[26:24] What are marketing lessons we can take from these documentaries?</p><p>[33:08] How does Devin get executive buy-in on his content?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80198306">Check out niche sports documentaries like <i>Losers</i> on Netflix</a></p><p><a href="https://thereeder.co/newsletter/">Subscribe to Devin’s newsletter, <i>The Reeder</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/devinreed/">Connect with Devin on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.clari.com/">Learn more about Clari</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Your next campaign is going to go viral. That is, if you use the marketing lessons we’re sharing in this episode of Remarkable.</p><p>There’s a recipe basically guaranteed to get you eyeballs, likes, comments…pure and fevered engagement from your audience. </p><p>And we’re taking that recipe from Solo Stove’s viral ad featuring Snoop Dogg. That’s what we’re talking about in this episode of Remarkable with the help of special guest, Chief Evangelist at purple cork, Corrina Owens. Together, we talk about collaborating with an A-list celebrity, creating buzz, and timing your campaign just right.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Corrina Owens</strong></p><p>Corrina Owens is Chief Evangelist at purple cork. She has over a decade of experience driving revenue for high-growth B2B SaaS organizations and B2C organizations with integrated and multi-channel marketing strategies, building and scaling demand generation and account-based marketing departments, programs, and campaigns from the ground up. She also co-hosts Direct, a podcast that features unsung GTM heroes who make magic happen for their organizations. Corrina is also a GTM Advisor at Navattic, GTM Partners, and Postal.io. Prior to purple cork, Corrina was Senior Manager of ABM and Enterprise as well as podcast host at Gong.</p><p><strong>About purple cork</strong></p><p>Purple cork was started by former CMOs and go-to-market specialists offering end-to-end event management. They create fun, fresh and professional virtual tastings designed for business value. They’re helping hundreds of leading SaaS and other companies create unique and memorable experiences no matter where they are. They’ve driven over $3 million in closed won revenue from accounts who’ve attended their Taste of Qualified events.</p><p><strong>About the Solo Stove</strong></p><p>Solo Stove makes a suite of portable, smokeless fire pits and camp stoves, along with a pizza oven and grill, and all the accessories. The unique thing about the Solo Stove is that it’s smokeless. The company explains that it works more efficiently than a traditional fire pit by funneling air through the pit twice for a second burn. So not only is there no smoke, but it also burns hotter. Solo Stove was started by brothers Jeff and Spencer Jan in 2011 as a Kickstarter campaign that raised $15,000. It now has an enterprise value of nearly $500 million after going public in 2021 as Solo Brands. It has also since acquired the brands Chubbies, Oru Kayak and Isle.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>the Solo Stove:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Aim for the stars. </strong>Solo Stove took a big swing when they asked Snoop Dogg to partner with them. And it paid off big. Corrina says, “What we see with B2B brands is that the ones that take big swings and make big bets - those are the ones that are going to stand out from the noise. So what's the risk here when the upside is just so massive? If nothing else, at least Snoop Dogg knows about solo stoves, right?” She adds that “leveraging celebrities that have that kind of vast appeal, but don't have so many endorsements quite yet, I think is the way in for marketers.”</li><li><strong>Spark buzz.</strong> On November 16th, 2023, Snoop Dogg posted to his Instagram account that he was “giving up smoke,” and to “respect his privacy at this time.” The post sent his fanbase into pure pandemonium. That is, until four days later when Solo Stove launched their collab with Snoop Dogg. One Snoop fan then responded to his Instagram post, “Got me one and I love it!!! 🔥❤️.” So drop hints and build anticipation for new campaigns, products, features, and services to drive engagement and make your content so remarkable it goes viral.</li><li><strong>Time your campaign right.</strong> Solo Stove’s Snoop Dogg campaign launched just days before Thanksgiving 2023 when, Ian says, “everyone is going to be talking around the dinner table and your weird uncle is going to bring up something weird. And you can be like, ‘Hey, did you know that Snoop's giving up smoking? That's crazy!’ Time your campaign launch so that it drops right when people will be together and in the perfect situation to talk about it, whether It be around a holiday or an event.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Until Solo Stove has some comparable competitors for price point and offering, they really have a unique moment in time to make these big investments and take these really big swings to corner the market even further before potential new competition can catch up.” - Corrina Owens</p><p>*”Early into the pandemic, Conan was starting to get more creative with ads where you would hear him do ads, but it sounded like he was just doing a bit. They actually made a summer campfire series with him, his assistant, and his producer. They do it just for Solo Stove, Solo Stove is the only brand that sponsors it. And it's a unique part of their podcast. It's a video series, where it's after dark, they're not in their studio, they're all around the Solo Stove campfire, using it to make marshmallows, using it to keep themselves warm, like actually utilizing and showcasing the product in use, which is very cool.” - Corrina Owens</p><p>*”People love events. Going in person and meeting people is always important. But what we learned is that virtual events democratize information and access if you can't be there in person or you can't afford it. Like, if budgets are tight, then you can't go. That's not great. We see this with these massive events and conferences. Budgets are freaking wild for these events. They’re really expensive. And so virtual is one way to solve that.” - Ian Faison</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Corrina Owens, Chief Evangelist at purple cork</p><p>[1:21] Why are we talking about Solo Stove?</p><p>[1:54] Learn more about Corrina’s role at purple cork</p><p>[2:20] What is the Solo Stove?</p><p>[10:51] About Snoop Dogg’s ad for Solo Stove</p><p>[14:10] How did the Snoop Dogg ad come about?</p><p>[16:17] Marketing lessons from the Snoop Dogg x Solo Stove ad</p><p>[25:20] Engagement results from Snoop Dogg x Solo Stove ad</p><p>[36:38] About how purple cork hosts virtual events</p><p>[37:44] What is Corrina’s marketing strategy at purple cork?</p><p>[44:22] How does Corrina think about the ROI of content?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.solostove.com/en-us">Check out the Solo Stove</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CztuhospV_w/">See Snoop Dogg’s Instagram post about “giving up smoke”</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdsAR9l_fI4">Watch Solo Stove’s ad with Snoop Dogg</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/corrina-owens/">Connect with Corrina on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.purplecork.wine/">Learn more about purple cork</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Ian Faison, Corrina Owens, Meredith Gooderham, Jess Avellino, Scott Goodrich)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your next campaign is going to go viral. That is, if you use the marketing lessons we’re sharing in this episode of Remarkable.</p><p>There’s a recipe basically guaranteed to get you eyeballs, likes, comments…pure and fevered engagement from your audience. </p><p>And we’re taking that recipe from Solo Stove’s viral ad featuring Snoop Dogg. That’s what we’re talking about in this episode of Remarkable with the help of special guest, Chief Evangelist at purple cork, Corrina Owens. Together, we talk about collaborating with an A-list celebrity, creating buzz, and timing your campaign just right.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Corrina Owens</strong></p><p>Corrina Owens is Chief Evangelist at purple cork. She has over a decade of experience driving revenue for high-growth B2B SaaS organizations and B2C organizations with integrated and multi-channel marketing strategies, building and scaling demand generation and account-based marketing departments, programs, and campaigns from the ground up. She also co-hosts Direct, a podcast that features unsung GTM heroes who make magic happen for their organizations. Corrina is also a GTM Advisor at Navattic, GTM Partners, and Postal.io. Prior to purple cork, Corrina was Senior Manager of ABM and Enterprise as well as podcast host at Gong.</p><p><strong>About purple cork</strong></p><p>Purple cork was started by former CMOs and go-to-market specialists offering end-to-end event management. They create fun, fresh and professional virtual tastings designed for business value. They’re helping hundreds of leading SaaS and other companies create unique and memorable experiences no matter where they are. They’ve driven over $3 million in closed won revenue from accounts who’ve attended their Taste of Qualified events.</p><p><strong>About the Solo Stove</strong></p><p>Solo Stove makes a suite of portable, smokeless fire pits and camp stoves, along with a pizza oven and grill, and all the accessories. The unique thing about the Solo Stove is that it’s smokeless. The company explains that it works more efficiently than a traditional fire pit by funneling air through the pit twice for a second burn. So not only is there no smoke, but it also burns hotter. Solo Stove was started by brothers Jeff and Spencer Jan in 2011 as a Kickstarter campaign that raised $15,000. It now has an enterprise value of nearly $500 million after going public in 2021 as Solo Brands. It has also since acquired the brands Chubbies, Oru Kayak and Isle.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>the Solo Stove:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Aim for the stars. </strong>Solo Stove took a big swing when they asked Snoop Dogg to partner with them. And it paid off big. Corrina says, “What we see with B2B brands is that the ones that take big swings and make big bets - those are the ones that are going to stand out from the noise. So what's the risk here when the upside is just so massive? If nothing else, at least Snoop Dogg knows about solo stoves, right?” She adds that “leveraging celebrities that have that kind of vast appeal, but don't have so many endorsements quite yet, I think is the way in for marketers.”</li><li><strong>Spark buzz.</strong> On November 16th, 2023, Snoop Dogg posted to his Instagram account that he was “giving up smoke,” and to “respect his privacy at this time.” The post sent his fanbase into pure pandemonium. That is, until four days later when Solo Stove launched their collab with Snoop Dogg. One Snoop fan then responded to his Instagram post, “Got me one and I love it!!! 🔥❤️.” So drop hints and build anticipation for new campaigns, products, features, and services to drive engagement and make your content so remarkable it goes viral.</li><li><strong>Time your campaign right.</strong> Solo Stove’s Snoop Dogg campaign launched just days before Thanksgiving 2023 when, Ian says, “everyone is going to be talking around the dinner table and your weird uncle is going to bring up something weird. And you can be like, ‘Hey, did you know that Snoop's giving up smoking? That's crazy!’ Time your campaign launch so that it drops right when people will be together and in the perfect situation to talk about it, whether It be around a holiday or an event.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Until Solo Stove has some comparable competitors for price point and offering, they really have a unique moment in time to make these big investments and take these really big swings to corner the market even further before potential new competition can catch up.” - Corrina Owens</p><p>*”Early into the pandemic, Conan was starting to get more creative with ads where you would hear him do ads, but it sounded like he was just doing a bit. They actually made a summer campfire series with him, his assistant, and his producer. They do it just for Solo Stove, Solo Stove is the only brand that sponsors it. And it's a unique part of their podcast. It's a video series, where it's after dark, they're not in their studio, they're all around the Solo Stove campfire, using it to make marshmallows, using it to keep themselves warm, like actually utilizing and showcasing the product in use, which is very cool.” - Corrina Owens</p><p>*”People love events. Going in person and meeting people is always important. But what we learned is that virtual events democratize information and access if you can't be there in person or you can't afford it. Like, if budgets are tight, then you can't go. That's not great. We see this with these massive events and conferences. Budgets are freaking wild for these events. They’re really expensive. And so virtual is one way to solve that.” - Ian Faison</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Corrina Owens, Chief Evangelist at purple cork</p><p>[1:21] Why are we talking about Solo Stove?</p><p>[1:54] Learn more about Corrina’s role at purple cork</p><p>[2:20] What is the Solo Stove?</p><p>[10:51] About Snoop Dogg’s ad for Solo Stove</p><p>[14:10] How did the Snoop Dogg ad come about?</p><p>[16:17] Marketing lessons from the Snoop Dogg x Solo Stove ad</p><p>[25:20] Engagement results from Snoop Dogg x Solo Stove ad</p><p>[36:38] About how purple cork hosts virtual events</p><p>[37:44] What is Corrina’s marketing strategy at purple cork?</p><p>[44:22] How does Corrina think about the ROI of content?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.solostove.com/en-us">Check out the Solo Stove</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CztuhospV_w/">See Snoop Dogg’s Instagram post about “giving up smoke”</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdsAR9l_fI4">Watch Solo Stove’s ad with Snoop Dogg</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/corrina-owens/">Connect with Corrina on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.purplecork.wine/">Learn more about purple cork</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. 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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Look closely at your competitors. Is there anything they do better than you? </p><p>Maybe it’s their messaging, their branding, their logo. Whatever it is, it doesn’t hurt to “borrow” ideas from them. We won’t call it stealing. </p><p>That’s just one of the things we’re talking about in this episode as we take marketing lessons from Fortnite with the help of special guest, VP, Head of Content at GreenSlate, Chris Anderson. Together, we chat about borrowing ideas from your competitors, providing opportunities for customization, and making pleasingly digestible content.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Chris Anderson</strong></p><p>Chris Anderson is VP, Head of Content at GreenSlate, a best-in-class software that simplifies and streamlines payroll and accounting for TV and film productions. With over 15 years of experience in digital content, content strategy, and digital media, Chris has built and led teams, created and executed regional and global strategies, and launched and managed multiple brands and products across various industries and platforms.</p><p>Previously, Chris was a Managing Editor at Gong.io, a revenue intelligence platform that helps sales teams win more deals. There, he oversaw the editorial process of content creation and distribution across the marketing department, working with various stakeholders and using tools like Asana, Marketo, and Salesforce. Before that, he was a Managing (and Senior) Editor for Asia at LinkedIn News, where he continued to grow a strong personal brand with over 100k followers after previously being selected as the #10 Top Voice in Media on LinkedIn in 2016. He also has experience in banking, gaming, education, and journalism, working for organizations like HSBC, Hong Kong Esports, Hong Kong Baptist University, Turner Broadcasting, HuffPost, and Business Insider.</p><p><strong>About GreenSlate</strong></p><p>GreenSlate advances the business of content production by seamlessly integrating people, process, and technology to meet the essential business needs of content producers. GreenSlate builds the industry’s most intuitive production accounting software, paperless payroll processing, and digital workflow solutions, with more innovative applications and products on the way. From budget to delivery, GreenSlate technology, tax credit management, and benefits services enable production teams to focus more on what they do best - creating inspiring content. GreenSlate. Evolving the industry, one production at a time.</p><p><strong>About Fortnite</strong></p><p>Fortnite is an online video game that was launched by Epic Games in 2017. It has six game modes: Fortnite: Save the World, Fortnite Battle Royale, and Fortnite Creative, Lego Fortnite, Rocket Racing and Fortnite Festival. It’s available across platforms like Playstation 4, Nintendo Switch, Xbox One, PC, Mac, iOS and some Android devices. It’s incredibly popular with over 500 million registered users, and around 230 million active players each month. The game has generated around $26 billion since it launched.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Fortnite:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Borrow ideas from your competitors.</strong> If your competitors are offering a product or service you don’t have and it’s doing well, build it out for your brand too. Chris says, “In 2017 PUBG (a game called PlayerUnknown’s Battleground) was the big battle royale, and Fortnite was primarily focused on their pay-to-play model, which was Save the World. But they recognized in their competitor that there was a mode that they did not have that was very good and popular. And they understood that if they changed course and put it out as a free-to-play model, that was worth it. They were flexible and they adapted and they put something out that was fun and engaging for a different audience.”</li><li><strong>Provide opportunities for customization.</strong> Ian says, “One of the ultimate B2B lessons is making the customer feel like they're getting exactly what they want and none of the features that they don't want.” Fortnite lets players choose what game mode they want to play, what they want their character to look like, and what emotes they want to use. It gives players ownership of their character and how they feel about the gaming experience.</li><li><strong>Make it short and sweet. </strong>Whether it’s a newsletters, blog post, article, email, whatever…make your content pleasingly digestible. People should be able to consume it easily and in a short amount of time. Ian says Fortnite is super addictive because of “the speed in which the rounds happen. If you're out, you're out for a little bit, but then you can go back in and do something else. It's just got this built-in super fast pace that makes it really engaging.” And Chris added that he can knock out a game in a matter of minutes.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Epic Games is really good at understanding their audience as well as their potential audience that they don't have. They capture these different audiences across the board in these different categories. And they're pulling in all these people from different places because they have this platform that's flexible enough to build on top of it. It's quite brilliant.” - Chris Anderson</p><p>*“There's a difference between what you think people want, what you want them to want, and then what they actually want. In B2B you can put a ton of effort into building a new feature because maybe you've done some market research and you think that, ‘Oh, people definitely want this. This is something that they're interested in.’ You build it, spend the time, you put it out there and it bombs, or for whatever reason, it just doesn't resonate. It's hard for people to pull back from these sometimes because you put all that energy, all that effort into creating that product.” - Chris Anderson</p><p>*”It's hard to bullshit people.  You could be really good at content marketing and really good at pushing narratives. But if the product itself can't back it up, you're going to forever be chasing a dream.” - Chris Anderson</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Chris Anderson, VP, Head of Content at GreenSlate</p><p>[1:12] Discussion about Fortnite in B2B Marketing</p><p>[1:17] What does Chris’ role at GreenSlate entail?</p><p>[1:17] What makes Fortnite remarkable?</p><p>[4:21] What are some B2B marketing’ takeaways from Fortnite?</p><p>[38:57] What is Chris’ content strategy?</p><p>[50:03] What can we learn about content calendars from Fortnite?</p><p>[57:45] What advice would Chris give other marketers?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.fortnite.com/">Play Fortnite</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris77/">Connect with Chris on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://greenslate.com/">Learn more about GreenSlate</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look closely at your competitors. Is there anything they do better than you? </p><p>Maybe it’s their messaging, their branding, their logo. Whatever it is, it doesn’t hurt to “borrow” ideas from them. We won’t call it stealing. </p><p>That’s just one of the things we’re talking about in this episode as we take marketing lessons from Fortnite with the help of special guest, VP, Head of Content at GreenSlate, Chris Anderson. Together, we chat about borrowing ideas from your competitors, providing opportunities for customization, and making pleasingly digestible content.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Chris Anderson</strong></p><p>Chris Anderson is VP, Head of Content at GreenSlate, a best-in-class software that simplifies and streamlines payroll and accounting for TV and film productions. With over 15 years of experience in digital content, content strategy, and digital media, Chris has built and led teams, created and executed regional and global strategies, and launched and managed multiple brands and products across various industries and platforms.</p><p>Previously, Chris was a Managing Editor at Gong.io, a revenue intelligence platform that helps sales teams win more deals. There, he oversaw the editorial process of content creation and distribution across the marketing department, working with various stakeholders and using tools like Asana, Marketo, and Salesforce. Before that, he was a Managing (and Senior) Editor for Asia at LinkedIn News, where he continued to grow a strong personal brand with over 100k followers after previously being selected as the #10 Top Voice in Media on LinkedIn in 2016. 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But they recognized in their competitor that there was a mode that they did not have that was very good and popular. And they understood that if they changed course and put it out as a free-to-play model, that was worth it. They were flexible and they adapted and they put something out that was fun and engaging for a different audience.”</li><li><strong>Provide opportunities for customization.</strong> Ian says, “One of the ultimate B2B lessons is making the customer feel like they're getting exactly what they want and none of the features that they don't want.” Fortnite lets players choose what game mode they want to play, what they want their character to look like, and what emotes they want to use. It gives players ownership of their character and how they feel about the gaming experience.</li><li><strong>Make it short and sweet. </strong>Whether it’s a newsletters, blog post, article, email, whatever…make your content pleasingly digestible. People should be able to consume it easily and in a short amount of time. Ian says Fortnite is super addictive because of “the speed in which the rounds happen. If you're out, you're out for a little bit, but then you can go back in and do something else. It's just got this built-in super fast pace that makes it really engaging.” And Chris added that he can knock out a game in a matter of minutes.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Epic Games is really good at understanding their audience as well as their potential audience that they don't have. They capture these different audiences across the board in these different categories. And they're pulling in all these people from different places because they have this platform that's flexible enough to build on top of it. It's quite brilliant.” - Chris Anderson</p><p>*“There's a difference between what you think people want, what you want them to want, and then what they actually want. In B2B you can put a ton of effort into building a new feature because maybe you've done some market research and you think that, ‘Oh, people definitely want this. This is something that they're interested in.’ You build it, spend the time, you put it out there and it bombs, or for whatever reason, it just doesn't resonate. It's hard for people to pull back from these sometimes because you put all that energy, all that effort into creating that product.” - Chris Anderson</p><p>*”It's hard to bullshit people.  You could be really good at content marketing and really good at pushing narratives. But if the product itself can't back it up, you're going to forever be chasing a dream.” - Chris Anderson</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Chris Anderson, VP, Head of Content at GreenSlate</p><p>[1:12] Discussion about Fortnite in B2B Marketing</p><p>[1:17] What does Chris’ role at GreenSlate entail?</p><p>[1:17] What makes Fortnite remarkable?</p><p>[4:21] What are some B2B marketing’ takeaways from Fortnite?</p><p>[38:57] What is Chris’ content strategy?</p><p>[50:03] What can we learn about content calendars from Fortnite?</p><p>[57:45] What advice would Chris give other marketers?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.fortnite.com/">Play Fortnite</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris77/">Connect with Chris on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://greenslate.com/">Learn more about GreenSlate</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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Maybe it’s their messaging, their branding, their logo. Whatever it is, it doesn’t hurt to “borrow” ideas from them. We won’t call it stealing. 

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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Your audience should be stumbling upon your brand. They shouldn’t have to go looking.</p><p>That means putting out content they’ll encounter on their TV, on their drive to work, in their email, on Instagram and TikTok and LinkedIn. It also means they’ll think about your brand multiple times a week, maybe multiple times a day. That’s what you want.</p><p>And that’s what we’ve got in this episode of Remarkable. We’re talking about marketing lessons from Bravo TV with the help of special guest, Head of Communications at Vanta, Erin Cheng. Together, we chat about taking a multi-platform, multi-channel approach, connecting your messaging with trending topics, and giving your brand a spokesperson.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Erin Cheng</strong></p><p>Erin Cheng is Head of Communications at Vanta. She joined the company in November of 2022, and previously served as Head of Public Relations & Analyst Relations at Asana. She is a comms leader with 15 years of experience in creating and executing multi-dimensional internal and external communications programs, including executive thought leadership, business momentum, product and category innovation, third-party and influencer validation, and next-gen technology. Deep experience in B2B and B2C with a reputation for cross-functional collaboration aligned with business objectives.</p><p><strong>About Vanta</strong></p><p>Vanta is the leading trust management platform that helps simplify and centralize security for organizations of all sizes. Thousands of companies rely on Vanta to build, maintain and demonstrate trust in a way that's real-time and transparent. Founded in 2018, Vanta has customers in 58 countries with offices in Dublin, New York, San Francisco and Sydney.</p><p><strong>About Bravo</strong></p><p>Bravo is a TV network like HBO or PBS. It’s owned by NBCUniversal, and is known for reality TV shows like <i>Top Chef</i>, <i>The Real Housewives </i>franchise<i> (Beverly Hills, Atlanta, Dallas, Dubai, etc.), Below Deck, </i>and more. It’s been around since 1980 and was originally dedicated to independent film and the performing arts. Now its target audience is 25-54 year old women and the LGBTQIA community. The network’s first big show was <i>Queer Eye for the Straight Guy</i>, which launched in 2003. And that was a turning point that led the network to focusing on reality TV. According to <i>Entertainment Weekly, </i>“Bravo's quirky reality programming mixes high culture and low scruples to create deliciously addictive television."</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Bravo:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Take a multi-platform, multi-channel approach.</strong> Post content daily across social channels, on your website, blog, everywhere.  This increases brand awareness and keeps you top of mind for your audience while also giving them multiple chances to interact with your brand. Of Bravo, Erin says, “They've got BravoCon, which is in essence their user conference. They've got Watch What Happens Live. They have social. You don't just experience these characters and these stories once a week in a one hour format and then forget it. You're engaging with them all the time.”</li><li><strong>Connect your message to relevant and timely topics in the real world.</strong> By referencing trending topics, you strengthen the impact of your message, boost your search engine visibility and capture the interest and engagement of your audience. Erin says, “A lot of people falsely just assume that because something is interesting to them as a company or from a product that they're launching that it's going to be interesting to everyone. And the real magic happens when you marry it to the things that are going on in the world around them, and they can really feel that you're connecting that for them. That's really powerful.”</li><li><strong>Give your brand a spokesperson. </strong>This person is responsible for synthesizing your messaging as well as humanizing your brand. Ian says, “The synthesis of the information is oftentimes just as important in the presentation. Andy Cohen also acts as the calming, reassuring presence that brings consistency from show to show. Andy is the figure in the background waiting to come on to synthesize what you just saw. He’s a huge part of building a portfolio of content, building out a network, building out consistency and brand voice and all that. A human being can do that way faster than you can do that by waving your magic brand wand.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Nobody's sitting around and thinking about us or waiting for our news. Especially as you're growing a company, and you're not sort of a tech behemoth or consumer behemoth that people sort of wait for these regular news cycles around. And so you do have to make sure that you're not only cognizant of the world around you and the things that are happening, the things that are top of mind for your customers or those that you're hoping to turn into customers. But how are you knitting that story together with the value that you're delivering with what you bring to the table?” - Erin Cheng</p><p>“A big lesson for a lot of marketers and everyone in general is when to take honest stock of things and ask yourself, ‘Does this still work? Do we need to mix it up? Is this messaging still feeling compelling and relevant? Or is it not speaking to our audience anymore?’ Being really nimble and responsive to what your audience cares about is important.” - Erin Cheng</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Erin Cheng, Head of Communications at Vanta</p><p>[1:50] What does Erin’s role at Vanta entail?</p><p>[3:28] Why are we talking about Bravo?</p><p>[5:07] What is Bravo?</p><p>[20:24] Why is Bravo remarkable? And what are marketing lessons we can take away from it?</p><p>[43:35] What’s Erin’s content strategy?</p><p>[46:37] How does Erin prove the ROI of content?</p><p>[48:17] What new and upcoming projects is Erin working on?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.bravotv.com/">Watch shows on Bravo</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/erinsmithcheng/">Connect with Erin Cheng on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.vanta.com/">Learn more about Vanta</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your audience should be stumbling upon your brand. They shouldn’t have to go looking.</p><p>That means putting out content they’ll encounter on their TV, on their drive to work, in their email, on Instagram and TikTok and LinkedIn. It also means they’ll think about your brand multiple times a week, maybe multiple times a day. That’s what you want.</p><p>And that’s what we’ve got in this episode of Remarkable. We’re talking about marketing lessons from Bravo TV with the help of special guest, Head of Communications at Vanta, Erin Cheng. Together, we chat about taking a multi-platform, multi-channel approach, connecting your messaging with trending topics, and giving your brand a spokesperson.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Erin Cheng</strong></p><p>Erin Cheng is Head of Communications at Vanta. She joined the company in November of 2022, and previously served as Head of Public Relations & Analyst Relations at Asana. She is a comms leader with 15 years of experience in creating and executing multi-dimensional internal and external communications programs, including executive thought leadership, business momentum, product and category innovation, third-party and influencer validation, and next-gen technology. Deep experience in B2B and B2C with a reputation for cross-functional collaboration aligned with business objectives.</p><p><strong>About Vanta</strong></p><p>Vanta is the leading trust management platform that helps simplify and centralize security for organizations of all sizes. Thousands of companies rely on Vanta to build, maintain and demonstrate trust in a way that's real-time and transparent. Founded in 2018, Vanta has customers in 58 countries with offices in Dublin, New York, San Francisco and Sydney.</p><p><strong>About Bravo</strong></p><p>Bravo is a TV network like HBO or PBS. It’s owned by NBCUniversal, and is known for reality TV shows like <i>Top Chef</i>, <i>The Real Housewives </i>franchise<i> (Beverly Hills, Atlanta, Dallas, Dubai, etc.), Below Deck, </i>and more. It’s been around since 1980 and was originally dedicated to independent film and the performing arts. Now its target audience is 25-54 year old women and the LGBTQIA community. The network’s first big show was <i>Queer Eye for the Straight Guy</i>, which launched in 2003. And that was a turning point that led the network to focusing on reality TV. According to <i>Entertainment Weekly, </i>“Bravo's quirky reality programming mixes high culture and low scruples to create deliciously addictive television."</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Bravo:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Take a multi-platform, multi-channel approach.</strong> Post content daily across social channels, on your website, blog, everywhere.  This increases brand awareness and keeps you top of mind for your audience while also giving them multiple chances to interact with your brand. Of Bravo, Erin says, “They've got BravoCon, which is in essence their user conference. They've got Watch What Happens Live. They have social. You don't just experience these characters and these stories once a week in a one hour format and then forget it. You're engaging with them all the time.”</li><li><strong>Connect your message to relevant and timely topics in the real world.</strong> By referencing trending topics, you strengthen the impact of your message, boost your search engine visibility and capture the interest and engagement of your audience. Erin says, “A lot of people falsely just assume that because something is interesting to them as a company or from a product that they're launching that it's going to be interesting to everyone. And the real magic happens when you marry it to the things that are going on in the world around them, and they can really feel that you're connecting that for them. That's really powerful.”</li><li><strong>Give your brand a spokesperson. </strong>This person is responsible for synthesizing your messaging as well as humanizing your brand. Ian says, “The synthesis of the information is oftentimes just as important in the presentation. Andy Cohen also acts as the calming, reassuring presence that brings consistency from show to show. Andy is the figure in the background waiting to come on to synthesize what you just saw. He’s a huge part of building a portfolio of content, building out a network, building out consistency and brand voice and all that. A human being can do that way faster than you can do that by waving your magic brand wand.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Nobody's sitting around and thinking about us or waiting for our news. Especially as you're growing a company, and you're not sort of a tech behemoth or consumer behemoth that people sort of wait for these regular news cycles around. And so you do have to make sure that you're not only cognizant of the world around you and the things that are happening, the things that are top of mind for your customers or those that you're hoping to turn into customers. But how are you knitting that story together with the value that you're delivering with what you bring to the table?” - Erin Cheng</p><p>“A big lesson for a lot of marketers and everyone in general is when to take honest stock of things and ask yourself, ‘Does this still work? Do we need to mix it up? Is this messaging still feeling compelling and relevant? Or is it not speaking to our audience anymore?’ Being really nimble and responsive to what your audience cares about is important.” - Erin Cheng</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Erin Cheng, Head of Communications at Vanta</p><p>[1:50] What does Erin’s role at Vanta entail?</p><p>[3:28] Why are we talking about Bravo?</p><p>[5:07] What is Bravo?</p><p>[20:24] Why is Bravo remarkable? And what are marketing lessons we can take away from it?</p><p>[43:35] What’s Erin’s content strategy?</p><p>[46:37] How does Erin prove the ROI of content?</p><p>[48:17] What new and upcoming projects is Erin working on?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.bravotv.com/">Watch shows on Bravo</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/erinsmithcheng/">Connect with Erin Cheng on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.vanta.com/">Learn more about Vanta</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>What does it take for your customers to:</p><ol><li>Recommend your brand to all their friends, family and coworkers?</li><li>Take pictures of your product and post it on their personal social media?</li><li>Wear your logo even if they don’t own the product?</li></ol><p>All of these are signs your customers are superfans evangelizing your brand. And transforming customers into devoted superfans is a potent marketing strategy that drives business growth.</p><p>This is what we’re talking about today as we chat about the legendary outdoor gear brand, YETI, with the help of special guest, VP of Marketing at Loxo, Sam Kuehnle. Together, we chat about investing in storytelling, working collaboratively with sales, and being realistic about what constitutes a true lead.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Sam Kuehnle</strong></p><p>Sam Kuehnle is VP of Marketing at talent intelligence platform Loxo. He joined the company in January 2023. Prior to his current role, he served as VP of Demand Gen at Refine Labs, a demand strategy and research firm focused on growth-stage B2B SaaS companies, where he spent over 2 years. He previously worked at Blackbaud for over 7 years, culminating in his role as Digital Marketing Team Lead. He is based in Jupiter, Florida.</p><p><strong>About Loxo</strong></p><p>Loxo is the #1 Talent Intelligence Platform and global leader in recruiting software. Loxo is a horizontally integrated suite of data-driven and AI-powered products designed to manage the full recruitment life cycle through a single system-of-record software platform. The platform includes a best-in-class Applicant Tracking System, an AI-driven Recruiting CRM, Candidate Engagement (multi-channel outbound recruiting solution), a People Search Engine of over 1.2 billion people, with contact information including verified mobile phone, personal and work emails. The instant AI sourcing, ranking and matching makes identifying, engaging and hiring the very best possible talent easier than ever before. More than 13,000 Executive Search, RPO, professional recruitment and talent acquisition teams across the globe are using Loxo to become hiring machines.</p><p><strong>About YETI</strong></p><p>YETI is a maker of outdoor gear like premium ice chests, coolers, vacuum-insulated stainless steel drinkware, and more. They’re an American company based in Austin, Texas that was founded by brothers Roy and Ryan Seiders in 2006. The brothers loved to fish and hunt but found that they needed to buy a new cooler every season because parts would break on them. So they decided to make a cooler that was super durable, effective at keeping stuff cold, and all-around practical. Their dad, who was a teacher by trade, had also become an entrepreneur, developing sealant for fishing rods called <a href="https://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/the-rise-of-yeti-coolers/">Flex Coat</a>. So this kind of entrepreneurship runs in the family. And their idea really came from meeting their own needs while also seeing a need in the market.</p><p>So when they were developing a prototype, they realized that they would have to sell their coolers for around $300 to cover their costs, far above the $30 coolers you can buy at Walmart. And because of this, they decided to reach out to specialty outdoor retailers and to go to trade shows. (Speaking of knowing your audience). Now if you look on their site, the hard coolers range in price from $250 to $1500. </p><p>And though they initially started with coolers, they expanded to cups and tumblers in 2014. </p><p>The brand definitely has cachet. People will put a YETI sticker on their truck or wear a YETI t-shirt even if they don’t own a YETI cooler. The brand has been called “aspirational,” no doubt because of the price but also the idea of having time off to go be in the great outdoors, loading up a YETI with fish or elk meat or drinks. But Aaron Vom Eigen, who’s a principal at the Austin-based design firm Pushstart who studied YETI, said,“It’s less about being sexy and more about the function and being durable.”</p><p>Ice will last in a YETI cooler for up to 7 days, according to <a href="https://springhilloutfitters.com/blog/how-long-does-ice-last-in-a-yeti-cooler/">Springhill Outfitters</a>. Though in hot conditions, it will last for a day or two. And they’re virtually indestructible. They’re made using the same process as white water kayaks. And they’re also tested against grizzly bears for bear-proofing (when paired with special YETI master lock padlocks.)</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>YETI:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Invest in storytelling. </strong>Create longform blog posts, videos and podcasts telling stories that exemplify your brand. They build brand awareness so you’re top of mind for buyers. Ian says, “Content is so important to [YETI]. If you go to their website, the navigation includes shops, gifts, customized, and stories. And in stories you have a bunch of stories that they've written and brilliant long form video content, which is amazing. They have ambassadors and they have podcasts. You have to have such strong content and advertising in order to be top of mind and to get your brand across.”</li><li><strong>Work in tandem with sales.</strong> Supercharge your marketing strategy by keeping communication open with the sales team. Each side will inform the other on what works or what doesn’t, so marketing and sales both work harder for the business. Sam says, “One of the bigger [lessons] is learning how to work with sales. Because they don't care if you get one lead, 10 leads, 100 leads their way, they need to close deals at the end of the day. So if you want a good relationship with them and you really want to grow as a company, you need to be working together.”</li><li><strong>Be realistic about what constitutes a true lead.</strong> It’s easy to convince yourself a contact will convert. But Sam says, “Whether leads are falling off, they're not qualified, or they're not closing for some reason, more often than not, it was because the leads weren't really leads. Like, we so conflated the definition of what a lead is. And we just said, ‘Oh, they downloaded an ebook, they're ready to talk to sales.’ It's like, ‘No, they just wanted to learn something or they wanted to watch this webinar. Stop calling them leads. Just give it away for free.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”How do we create champions? How do we get repeat buyers? How do we keep people from never wanting to leave us? In B2B, it's an experience. You make sure that they get the results they want. But in B2C, you don't have YETI people calling you. How do you like your YETI? Rate it out of 10. Would you buy YETI again? They've just ingrained it. I think part of that is the marketing side of it is just how they've done and accomplished that.” - Sam Kuehnle</p><p>*”KPIs are indicators. They are not goals. We need to stop treating them like goals. You can get tens of thousands of visitors if you want to show up for some random phrase. You can go to some content syndication website. You can gamify all that to hit your goals, but then you're doing a disservice because you're refocusing all of your team's energy on hitting these things that don't actually matter for your business because they want to justify their salary or their position within the company.” - Sam Kuehnle</p><p>*”How'd you hear about us? Just ask people when they come in and put it on the form. This is usually like the most memorable thing, or sometimes recency effect comes into play where it's like, you know, ‘The last thing I heard was a podcast with the CEO.’ That's another touch point for you to know if your content is working.” - Sam Kuehnle</p><p>*“Are we generating more pipeline as a result of the people coming in? Are the deals closing faster? Are we seeing higher win rates as a result? All of those are lagging indicators to doing that initial upfront work of building your content engine, but you can't be so obsessed with having that engine drive results on day one, on day 30, on day 60. It is a long game that you have to play.” - Sam Kuehnle</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Sam Kuehnle, VP of Marketing at Loxo</p><p>[0:25] Discussing Yeti's Marketing Strategy</p><p>[2:42] Sam’s Role at Loxo and Marketing Objectives</p><p>[48:27] The Yeti Effect in B2B Marketing</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.yeti.com/">Check out YETI</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/samkuehnle/">Connect with Sam on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://loxo.co/">Learn more about Loxo</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does it take for your customers to:</p><ol><li>Recommend your brand to all their friends, family and coworkers?</li><li>Take pictures of your product and post it on their personal social media?</li><li>Wear your logo even if they don’t own the product?</li></ol><p>All of these are signs your customers are superfans evangelizing your brand. And transforming customers into devoted superfans is a potent marketing strategy that drives business growth.</p><p>This is what we’re talking about today as we chat about the legendary outdoor gear brand, YETI, with the help of special guest, VP of Marketing at Loxo, Sam Kuehnle. Together, we chat about investing in storytelling, working collaboratively with sales, and being realistic about what constitutes a true lead.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Sam Kuehnle</strong></p><p>Sam Kuehnle is VP of Marketing at talent intelligence platform Loxo. He joined the company in January 2023. Prior to his current role, he served as VP of Demand Gen at Refine Labs, a demand strategy and research firm focused on growth-stage B2B SaaS companies, where he spent over 2 years. He previously worked at Blackbaud for over 7 years, culminating in his role as Digital Marketing Team Lead. He is based in Jupiter, Florida.</p><p><strong>About Loxo</strong></p><p>Loxo is the #1 Talent Intelligence Platform and global leader in recruiting software. Loxo is a horizontally integrated suite of data-driven and AI-powered products designed to manage the full recruitment life cycle through a single system-of-record software platform. The platform includes a best-in-class Applicant Tracking System, an AI-driven Recruiting CRM, Candidate Engagement (multi-channel outbound recruiting solution), a People Search Engine of over 1.2 billion people, with contact information including verified mobile phone, personal and work emails. The instant AI sourcing, ranking and matching makes identifying, engaging and hiring the very best possible talent easier than ever before. More than 13,000 Executive Search, RPO, professional recruitment and talent acquisition teams across the globe are using Loxo to become hiring machines.</p><p><strong>About YETI</strong></p><p>YETI is a maker of outdoor gear like premium ice chests, coolers, vacuum-insulated stainless steel drinkware, and more. They’re an American company based in Austin, Texas that was founded by brothers Roy and Ryan Seiders in 2006. The brothers loved to fish and hunt but found that they needed to buy a new cooler every season because parts would break on them. So they decided to make a cooler that was super durable, effective at keeping stuff cold, and all-around practical. Their dad, who was a teacher by trade, had also become an entrepreneur, developing sealant for fishing rods called <a href="https://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/the-rise-of-yeti-coolers/">Flex Coat</a>. So this kind of entrepreneurship runs in the family. And their idea really came from meeting their own needs while also seeing a need in the market.</p><p>So when they were developing a prototype, they realized that they would have to sell their coolers for around $300 to cover their costs, far above the $30 coolers you can buy at Walmart. And because of this, they decided to reach out to specialty outdoor retailers and to go to trade shows. (Speaking of knowing your audience). Now if you look on their site, the hard coolers range in price from $250 to $1500. </p><p>And though they initially started with coolers, they expanded to cups and tumblers in 2014. </p><p>The brand definitely has cachet. People will put a YETI sticker on their truck or wear a YETI t-shirt even if they don’t own a YETI cooler. The brand has been called “aspirational,” no doubt because of the price but also the idea of having time off to go be in the great outdoors, loading up a YETI with fish or elk meat or drinks. But Aaron Vom Eigen, who’s a principal at the Austin-based design firm Pushstart who studied YETI, said,“It’s less about being sexy and more about the function and being durable.”</p><p>Ice will last in a YETI cooler for up to 7 days, according to <a href="https://springhilloutfitters.com/blog/how-long-does-ice-last-in-a-yeti-cooler/">Springhill Outfitters</a>. Though in hot conditions, it will last for a day or two. And they’re virtually indestructible. They’re made using the same process as white water kayaks. And they’re also tested against grizzly bears for bear-proofing (when paired with special YETI master lock padlocks.)</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>YETI:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Invest in storytelling. </strong>Create longform blog posts, videos and podcasts telling stories that exemplify your brand. They build brand awareness so you’re top of mind for buyers. Ian says, “Content is so important to [YETI]. If you go to their website, the navigation includes shops, gifts, customized, and stories. And in stories you have a bunch of stories that they've written and brilliant long form video content, which is amazing. They have ambassadors and they have podcasts. You have to have such strong content and advertising in order to be top of mind and to get your brand across.”</li><li><strong>Work in tandem with sales.</strong> Supercharge your marketing strategy by keeping communication open with the sales team. Each side will inform the other on what works or what doesn’t, so marketing and sales both work harder for the business. Sam says, “One of the bigger [lessons] is learning how to work with sales. Because they don't care if you get one lead, 10 leads, 100 leads their way, they need to close deals at the end of the day. So if you want a good relationship with them and you really want to grow as a company, you need to be working together.”</li><li><strong>Be realistic about what constitutes a true lead.</strong> It’s easy to convince yourself a contact will convert. But Sam says, “Whether leads are falling off, they're not qualified, or they're not closing for some reason, more often than not, it was because the leads weren't really leads. Like, we so conflated the definition of what a lead is. And we just said, ‘Oh, they downloaded an ebook, they're ready to talk to sales.’ It's like, ‘No, they just wanted to learn something or they wanted to watch this webinar. Stop calling them leads. Just give it away for free.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”How do we create champions? How do we get repeat buyers? How do we keep people from never wanting to leave us? In B2B, it's an experience. You make sure that they get the results they want. But in B2C, you don't have YETI people calling you. How do you like your YETI? Rate it out of 10. Would you buy YETI again? They've just ingrained it. I think part of that is the marketing side of it is just how they've done and accomplished that.” - Sam Kuehnle</p><p>*”KPIs are indicators. They are not goals. We need to stop treating them like goals. You can get tens of thousands of visitors if you want to show up for some random phrase. You can go to some content syndication website. You can gamify all that to hit your goals, but then you're doing a disservice because you're refocusing all of your team's energy on hitting these things that don't actually matter for your business because they want to justify their salary or their position within the company.” - Sam Kuehnle</p><p>*”How'd you hear about us? Just ask people when they come in and put it on the form. This is usually like the most memorable thing, or sometimes recency effect comes into play where it's like, you know, ‘The last thing I heard was a podcast with the CEO.’ That's another touch point for you to know if your content is working.” - Sam Kuehnle</p><p>*“Are we generating more pipeline as a result of the people coming in? Are the deals closing faster? Are we seeing higher win rates as a result? All of those are lagging indicators to doing that initial upfront work of building your content engine, but you can't be so obsessed with having that engine drive results on day one, on day 30, on day 60. It is a long game that you have to play.” - Sam Kuehnle</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Sam Kuehnle, VP of Marketing at Loxo</p><p>[0:25] Discussing Yeti's Marketing Strategy</p><p>[2:42] Sam’s Role at Loxo and Marketing Objectives</p><p>[48:27] The Yeti Effect in B2B Marketing</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.yeti.com/">Check out YETI</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/samkuehnle/">Connect with Sam on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://loxo.co/">Learn more about Loxo</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>YETI: B2B Marketing Lessons from the Legendary Cooler Brand with Sam Kuenle, VP of Marketing at Loxo</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:summary>What does it take for your customers to:

Recommend your brand to all their friends, family and coworkers?

Take pictures of your product and post it on their personal social media?

Wear your logo even if they don’t own the product?

All of these are signs your customers are superfans evangelizing your brand. And transforming customers into devoted superfans is a potent marketing strategy that drives business growth.

This is what we’re talking about today as we chat about the legendary outdoor gear brand, YETI, with the help of special guest, VP of Marketing at Loxo, Sam Kuehnle. Together, we chat about investing in storytelling, working collaboratively with sales, and being realistic about what constitutes a true lead. </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>What does it take for your customers to:

Recommend your brand to all their friends, family and coworkers?

Take pictures of your product and post it on their personal social media?

Wear your logo even if they don’t own the product?

All of these are signs your customers are superfans evangelizing your brand. And transforming customers into devoted superfans is a potent marketing strategy that drives business growth.

This is what we’re talking about today as we chat about the legendary outdoor gear brand, YETI, with the help of special guest, VP of Marketing at Loxo, Sam Kuehnle. Together, we chat about investing in storytelling, working collaboratively with sales, and being realistic about what constitutes a true lead. </itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Marketing is an act of love. </p><p>The marketer puts out content like little thirst traps. We want to dazzle with our beautiful pictures and words. And we definitely didn’t lay awake at night trying to think of the perfect thing to say. </p><p>We marketers are gently wooing our audience from their first glance to becoming a dedicated customer. We are working to build everlasting relationships. And today, we’re learning about doing just that from the hit reality show that explores what it takes to go the distance.</p><p>In this episode, we’re talking about <i>Love is Blind </i>with the help of special guest, Senior Director of Brand & Events at Seismic, Katie Brunette. Together, we chat about breaking the ice, wooing your audience, and using cliffhangers.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Katie Brunette</strong></p><p>Katie Brunette is Senior Director of Brand & Events at Seismic. She joined the company in November 2021 as Senior Director of Global Events. She is an experiential marketing professional specialized in strategic corporate events and large-scale sporting events. Prior to Seismic, Katie previously served as Associate at Revenue Collective, Director of Marketing Strategy & Brand at Lessonly, and Event Marketing Coordinator at Salesforce.</p><p><strong>About Seismic</strong></p><p>Seismic is the global leader in enablement, helping organizations engage customers, enable teams, and ignite revenue growth. The Seismic Enablement Cloud™️ is the most powerful, unified enablement platform that equips customer-facing teams with the right skills, content, tools, and insights to grow and win. From the world’s largest enterprises to startups and small businesses, more than 2,000 organizations around the globe trust Seismic for their enablement needs. Seismic is headquartered in San Diego with offices across North America, Europe, and Australia.</p><p><strong>About </strong><i><strong>Love is Blind</strong></i></p><p><i>Love is Blind</i> is a reality show in which people who are looking for love get engaged before actually meeting each other in person. So how it goes is 15 men and 15 women who live in the same area come to live in pods. And they can “date” by talking to each other through speakers but never see each other. Participants can propose at any time. If and when a participant says “yes,” then they can meet their fiance in person. The show follows their relationship right up to the altar in some cases. For each season, there’s a reunion episode, and “after the altar” episodes.</p><p>Production-wise, the first season filmed for 38 days. And then some couples got married. They started on October 9th in 2018 and weddings were held on November 15th. Participants do get paid $1,000 a week, and the rings, resort stays, wedding, etc. are paid for by the show. However each person is responsible for their own hair, makeup, and clothing.</p><p>The series was created by Chris Coelen, produced by Kinetic Content and streams on Netflix. It premiered in February of 2020, and got tons of viewership, especially because of the pandemic. 30 million households watched the series within four weeks of its launch, and according to the Netflix 2020 viewing trends summary, it "stayed in the US Top 10 for 47 days straight after its release – the second-longest run of any title that year behind Cocomelon.” (64 days). It got some really funny reviews, the best being from <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2020/feb/13/love-is-blind-review-toxic-revolting-and-totally-addictive">Lucy Mangan</a> of The Guardian, who said, “Love is Blind is, basically, crack. Or meth. It’s crack-meth. You will decide to give it five minutes before bed one night and find yourself still on the sofa as the sun rises on another day. You will be bleary-eyed and shattered from all the shouting you have done, the emotional investment you have made, the WhatsApp messages you have typed to a specially formed group and the heartfelt contributions you have made to various internet forums on the subject. It’s that good, is what I am saying.” But then she goes on to say that it’s not good from a moral sense.</p><p>It now has 5 seasons out.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Love is Blind</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Break the ice. </strong>Introductory content meant to build awareness about your company or product is a great place to use humor. It’s attention-grabbing, light, and memorable. Plus, it starts you off with a positive brand association that will help build your relationship with them. Ian says, ”Long-term commitment is scary for most people, and it's very serious. And so you need to start with an icebreaker. So much of our content or our marketing stuff is so serious. We don't have good icebreakers. So much of the stuff that we create has so little levity, when even just showing a little bit of that allows you to break the tension.”</li><li><strong>Woo your audience. </strong>Commitment takes time. The content that will resonate with someone who just found out about your company will be different than someone who is ready to buy. Create touchpoints in your content that speaks to them at different phases of your relationship. Katie says, ”I kind of equate getting engaged to taking the demo. So how do you get your audience to the demo? You have to talk about the values. You have to talk about the things that mean the most to them, so that way you can connect on that human to human level, but also connect on their business outcome.” </li><li><strong>Use cliffhangers.</strong> Save the good stuff for the end of your blog post, your video, your podcast. Ian says, “Choose your best stuff and just put it at the bottom of the article. That stuff is so powerful and we don't do it enough.” When relationships hang in the balance on Love is Blind at the end of an episode, you know people are going to tune into the next episode. It’s how you keep people engaged and even improve viewership.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”If you knew that you had 30 hours to try to attract somebody to take a demo with you, what pieces of content would you put all your efforts into? Is it a webinar that you can get some live engagement? Is it an in-person event that you're trying to get them to? Is it a really great designed ebook? Is it a blog post? If you know that you have 30 hours of their attention, what is that high quality content that you're going to produce?” - Katie Brunette</p><p>*”It's so important to make that investment in your voice early on, especially when you're trying to set yourself apart from your competitors. Your voice is the easiest way to relate to people, and the easiest way to set yourself apart from competitors who essentially have the same product. Maybe some of the features are different. It might look a little bit different. It might work a little bit different. But you're selling the same thing. So how do you differentiate yourself? It's through your voice.” - Katie Brunette</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Katie Brunette, Senior Director of Brand & Events at Seismic</p><p>[2:24] What does Katie’s work at Seismic entail?</p><p>[3:07] What is <i>Love is Blind</i> about?</p><p>[19:27] Katie on the Impact of Love is Blind on Marketing</p><p>[36:44] Reflections on Brand and Content at Seismic</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-is-Blind-Season-1/dp/B06XHF8JDN">Watch Love is Blind</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/katiebrunette/">Connect with Katie on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://seismic.com/">Learn more about Seismic</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marketing is an act of love. </p><p>The marketer puts out content like little thirst traps. We want to dazzle with our beautiful pictures and words. And we definitely didn’t lay awake at night trying to think of the perfect thing to say. </p><p>We marketers are gently wooing our audience from their first glance to becoming a dedicated customer. We are working to build everlasting relationships. And today, we’re learning about doing just that from the hit reality show that explores what it takes to go the distance.</p><p>In this episode, we’re talking about <i>Love is Blind </i>with the help of special guest, Senior Director of Brand & Events at Seismic, Katie Brunette. Together, we chat about breaking the ice, wooing your audience, and using cliffhangers.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Katie Brunette</strong></p><p>Katie Brunette is Senior Director of Brand & Events at Seismic. She joined the company in November 2021 as Senior Director of Global Events. She is an experiential marketing professional specialized in strategic corporate events and large-scale sporting events. Prior to Seismic, Katie previously served as Associate at Revenue Collective, Director of Marketing Strategy & Brand at Lessonly, and Event Marketing Coordinator at Salesforce.</p><p><strong>About Seismic</strong></p><p>Seismic is the global leader in enablement, helping organizations engage customers, enable teams, and ignite revenue growth. The Seismic Enablement Cloud™️ is the most powerful, unified enablement platform that equips customer-facing teams with the right skills, content, tools, and insights to grow and win. From the world’s largest enterprises to startups and small businesses, more than 2,000 organizations around the globe trust Seismic for their enablement needs. Seismic is headquartered in San Diego with offices across North America, Europe, and Australia.</p><p><strong>About </strong><i><strong>Love is Blind</strong></i></p><p><i>Love is Blind</i> is a reality show in which people who are looking for love get engaged before actually meeting each other in person. So how it goes is 15 men and 15 women who live in the same area come to live in pods. And they can “date” by talking to each other through speakers but never see each other. Participants can propose at any time. If and when a participant says “yes,” then they can meet their fiance in person. The show follows their relationship right up to the altar in some cases. For each season, there’s a reunion episode, and “after the altar” episodes.</p><p>Production-wise, the first season filmed for 38 days. And then some couples got married. They started on October 9th in 2018 and weddings were held on November 15th. 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You will decide to give it five minutes before bed one night and find yourself still on the sofa as the sun rises on another day. You will be bleary-eyed and shattered from all the shouting you have done, the emotional investment you have made, the WhatsApp messages you have typed to a specially formed group and the heartfelt contributions you have made to various internet forums on the subject. It’s that good, is what I am saying.” But then she goes on to say that it’s not good from a moral sense.</p><p>It now has 5 seasons out.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Love is Blind</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Break the ice. </strong>Introductory content meant to build awareness about your company or product is a great place to use humor. It’s attention-grabbing, light, and memorable. Plus, it starts you off with a positive brand association that will help build your relationship with them. Ian says, ”Long-term commitment is scary for most people, and it's very serious. And so you need to start with an icebreaker. So much of our content or our marketing stuff is so serious. We don't have good icebreakers. So much of the stuff that we create has so little levity, when even just showing a little bit of that allows you to break the tension.”</li><li><strong>Woo your audience. </strong>Commitment takes time. The content that will resonate with someone who just found out about your company will be different than someone who is ready to buy. Create touchpoints in your content that speaks to them at different phases of your relationship. Katie says, ”I kind of equate getting engaged to taking the demo. So how do you get your audience to the demo? You have to talk about the values. You have to talk about the things that mean the most to them, so that way you can connect on that human to human level, but also connect on their business outcome.” </li><li><strong>Use cliffhangers.</strong> Save the good stuff for the end of your blog post, your video, your podcast. Ian says, “Choose your best stuff and just put it at the bottom of the article. That stuff is so powerful and we don't do it enough.” When relationships hang in the balance on Love is Blind at the end of an episode, you know people are going to tune into the next episode. It’s how you keep people engaged and even improve viewership.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”If you knew that you had 30 hours to try to attract somebody to take a demo with you, what pieces of content would you put all your efforts into? Is it a webinar that you can get some live engagement? Is it an in-person event that you're trying to get them to? Is it a really great designed ebook? Is it a blog post? If you know that you have 30 hours of their attention, what is that high quality content that you're going to produce?” - Katie Brunette</p><p>*”It's so important to make that investment in your voice early on, especially when you're trying to set yourself apart from your competitors. Your voice is the easiest way to relate to people, and the easiest way to set yourself apart from competitors who essentially have the same product. Maybe some of the features are different. It might look a little bit different. It might work a little bit different. But you're selling the same thing. So how do you differentiate yourself? It's through your voice.” - Katie Brunette</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Katie Brunette, Senior Director of Brand & Events at Seismic</p><p>[2:24] What does Katie’s work at Seismic entail?</p><p>[3:07] What is <i>Love is Blind</i> about?</p><p>[19:27] Katie on the Impact of Love is Blind on Marketing</p><p>[36:44] Reflections on Brand and Content at Seismic</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Love-is-Blind-Season-1/dp/B06XHF8JDN">Watch Love is Blind</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/katiebrunette/">Connect with Katie on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://seismic.com/">Learn more about Seismic</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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The marketer puts out content like little thirst traps. We want to dazzle with our beautiful pictures and words. And we definitely didn’t lay awake at night trying to think of the perfect thing to say. 

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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Muscle memory is killing your marketing strategy. It’s time to get off autopilot and take the helm.</p><p>It’s tempting to repeat marketing tactics that worked once. But if you do the same thing over and over, those tactics can lose effectiveness over time. So we’re bringing you fresh marketing ideas inspired by a show that explores the benefits of navigating uncharted waters. </p><p>In this episode, we’re talking about Taika Waititi’s hit romantic comedy, <i>Our Flag Means Death</i>, with the help of special guest, Director of Content & Communications at People.ai, Mariah Petrovic. Together, we chat about hiring a crew that’s better than you, ditching muscle-memory marketing strategies, and humanizing your content. So all aboard for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Mariah Petrovic</strong></p><p>Mariah Petrovic is Director of Content & Communications at People.ai. She joined the company in May 2023. Prior to her current role, she served as AI Messaging & Thought Leadership Lead for Infrastructure Solutions Group (ISG) at Dell Technologies. She has also worked as Senior Content Marketing Writer at Esri. </p><p>Mariah is a B2B and B2C marketer with broad experience in developing and executing go-to market messaging and strategy for leading companies like Dell and Esri (location technology). She also excels in leading content marketing strategy including content audits, content optimization, and development of assets including ebooks, whitepapers, articles, blogs, social content, videos, podcasts, and targeted ABM assets. She spent five years working for a membership organization for C-Suite executives and helped plan and execute events ranging from intimate dinners to national conferences.</p><p><strong>About People.ai</strong></p><p>People.ai is an AI-powered revenue intelligence platform that helps customers win more revenue by providing sales, RevOps, marketing, enablement, and customer success teams with valuable insights. Companies such as Verizon, IBM Red Hat, Snowflake, Zoom, and Palo Alto Networks rely on their enterprise-grade, patented AI technology. Their unique dataset, consisting of 1 trillion+ sales activities, millions of deals, 160 million business contacts, and 69 approved patents related to AI-based business insights, sets us apart. They use this data to train their models and provide our customers with tailored business predictions and unique buyer insights. They’ve also received validation via Gartner Market Guide for Revenue Intelligence Platforms, the 5000 fastest-growing companies list, named a strong performer and the only enterprise-grade data management platform by Forrester Revenue Operations and Intelligence Wave, listed on the Y Combinator Top Companies List, and the Forbes AI 50 list in 2022.</p><p><strong>About </strong><i><strong>Our Flag Means Death</strong></i></p><p><i>Our Flag Means Death</i> is a show about an aristocrat in the 18th century named Stede Bonnet who decides he’s going to become a pirate. So he buys a ship named “Revenge”, hires a crew, and sails off on the high seas. So it’s about him trying to hold together his crew who are constantly at the brink of mutiny. And in the meantime he runs into Captain Blackbeard and they fall in love. </p><p>It stars Rhys Darby as Stede Bonnet and Taika Waititi as Blackbeard. The series was created by David Jenkins and premiered in 2022. It’s now in its second season, and is available on HBOMax. </p><p><i>Our Flag Means Death</i> is loosely based on the true story of Stede Bonnet, who was called the “Gentleman Pirate.” He was born to a wealthy English family in Barbados and in 1717 he decided to become a pirate. He did meet Captain Blackbeard whose real name was Edward Teach in the Bahamas. And they did team up to pillage and plunder other ships along the eastern coast of the U.S. Whether he had a romantic relationship with Blackbeard or not is uncertain.</p><p><a href="https://awardsradar.com/2022/06/16/interview-david-jenkins/">David Jenkins</a>, the creator, said that pirates weren’t really his “bag” but the idea of someone in what he called “existential freefall” like Stede Bonnet was fascinating to him. The fact that Stede was a wealthy landowner in an unhappy marriage who just wanted to leave it all was really appealing.  </p><p>About it being a love story, Jenkins said, “It’s show about falling in love more than it’s a show about people’s reaction to gayness in that era.” And he added that so often, shows about gay romance are really about gay trauma. And <i>Our Flag Means Death </i>is more about romance.</p><p>What B2B Companies Can Learn From<i> Our Flag Means Death</i>:</p><ul><li><strong>Hire a crew that’s better than you. </strong>Get people on board who have skills and knowledge your company needs. Even if - and especially if - they’re better or more experienced than you. They will only be an asset to your growth. Mariah says, “Stede is completely incompetent as a pirate, and he hires a crew that is marginally better than him. But they all come together and they get the job done.”</li><li><strong>Muscle memory is killing your marketing strategy. </strong>Yes, it’s good to market in a way that you know works. But after a while, it just gets stale. Mariah says, “So many times, we kind of get this muscle memory and do things the same way over and over again. It's hard to break out of that. Be brave and try new things. And if something's not working, it's okay to start over.” Though Stede Bonnet was not always brave, it’s in starting his new life as a pirate that he goes on a journey of self-discovery. And that’s pretty brave, in the end.</li><li><strong>Fly your human flag. </strong>Drop the high tech facade, and be human. Write like a human, and include pictures of your customers and employees. Mariah says, “Being vulnerable and authentic is something that we don't do enough of and B2B marketing in general. We don’t humanize our companies. I'm in the AI space, and it's all these super high tech terms. We can talk about productivity and all this stuff, but really we're speaking to human beings. And so I think that that ability to be vulnerable and really speak to people is something that we can learn from this show.” <i>Our Flag Means Death </i>shows the vulnerable side of their male characters, which you would have never seen in something like <i>Treasure Island</i>, which was all swashbuckling machismo. In this show, the crew read each other stories and are encouraged to talk about their feelings. It sucks viewers into the story and results in their investment in the characters.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*What are the stories we're telling that are building that trust? Where are we helping people right now when they really need it without asking anything else of them in that moment? And being patient and knowing that the efforts that we're putting into it right now are leading to that moment and of change, of making that purchase and influencing those decisions?” - Mariah Petrovic</p><p>*”Messaging is the foundation of everything at a company. It's the way we talk about ourselves. It's consistency in storytelling. It's your website and your social and everything else. So getting it right, putting it out into the world, and really defining who we are as an organization is something that is really exciting.” - Mariah Petrovic</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Mariah Petrovic, Director of Content & Communications at People.ai</p><p>[2:09] Why are we talking about <i>Our Flag Means Death</i>?</p><p>[2:35] What does Mariah’s work at People.ai entail?</p><p>[3:00] What is <i>Our Flag Means Death</i> about?</p><p>[7:30] What makes <i>Our Flag Means Death</i> remarkable?</p><p>[21:03] What marketing lessons can we take from <i>Our Flag Means Death</i>?</p><p>[25:21] How does Mariah think about content?</p><p>[26:43] What’s Mariah’s content strategy? How does she prove the ROI of content?</p><p>[29:22] What will Mariah be working on and investing in in the future?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.418fc2c0-29c7-43e2-9392-50c0292337d9?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch<i> Our Flag Means Death</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mariahpetrovic/">Connect with Mariah on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.people.ai/">Learn more about People.ai</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2024 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Ian Faison, Meredith Gooderham, Mariah Petrovic, Scott Goodrich)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Muscle memory is killing your marketing strategy. It’s time to get off autopilot and take the helm.</p><p>It’s tempting to repeat marketing tactics that worked once. But if you do the same thing over and over, those tactics can lose effectiveness over time. So we’re bringing you fresh marketing ideas inspired by a show that explores the benefits of navigating uncharted waters. </p><p>In this episode, we’re talking about Taika Waititi’s hit romantic comedy, <i>Our Flag Means Death</i>, with the help of special guest, Director of Content & Communications at People.ai, Mariah Petrovic. Together, we chat about hiring a crew that’s better than you, ditching muscle-memory marketing strategies, and humanizing your content. So all aboard for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Mariah Petrovic</strong></p><p>Mariah Petrovic is Director of Content & Communications at People.ai. She joined the company in May 2023. Prior to her current role, she served as AI Messaging & Thought Leadership Lead for Infrastructure Solutions Group (ISG) at Dell Technologies. She has also worked as Senior Content Marketing Writer at Esri. </p><p>Mariah is a B2B and B2C marketer with broad experience in developing and executing go-to market messaging and strategy for leading companies like Dell and Esri (location technology). She also excels in leading content marketing strategy including content audits, content optimization, and development of assets including ebooks, whitepapers, articles, blogs, social content, videos, podcasts, and targeted ABM assets. She spent five years working for a membership organization for C-Suite executives and helped plan and execute events ranging from intimate dinners to national conferences.</p><p><strong>About People.ai</strong></p><p>People.ai is an AI-powered revenue intelligence platform that helps customers win more revenue by providing sales, RevOps, marketing, enablement, and customer success teams with valuable insights. Companies such as Verizon, IBM Red Hat, Snowflake, Zoom, and Palo Alto Networks rely on their enterprise-grade, patented AI technology. Their unique dataset, consisting of 1 trillion+ sales activities, millions of deals, 160 million business contacts, and 69 approved patents related to AI-based business insights, sets us apart. They use this data to train their models and provide our customers with tailored business predictions and unique buyer insights. They’ve also received validation via Gartner Market Guide for Revenue Intelligence Platforms, the 5000 fastest-growing companies list, named a strong performer and the only enterprise-grade data management platform by Forrester Revenue Operations and Intelligence Wave, listed on the Y Combinator Top Companies List, and the Forbes AI 50 list in 2022.</p><p><strong>About </strong><i><strong>Our Flag Means Death</strong></i></p><p><i>Our Flag Means Death</i> is a show about an aristocrat in the 18th century named Stede Bonnet who decides he’s going to become a pirate. So he buys a ship named “Revenge”, hires a crew, and sails off on the high seas. So it’s about him trying to hold together his crew who are constantly at the brink of mutiny. And in the meantime he runs into Captain Blackbeard and they fall in love. </p><p>It stars Rhys Darby as Stede Bonnet and Taika Waititi as Blackbeard. The series was created by David Jenkins and premiered in 2022. It’s now in its second season, and is available on HBOMax. </p><p><i>Our Flag Means Death</i> is loosely based on the true story of Stede Bonnet, who was called the “Gentleman Pirate.” He was born to a wealthy English family in Barbados and in 1717 he decided to become a pirate. He did meet Captain Blackbeard whose real name was Edward Teach in the Bahamas. And they did team up to pillage and plunder other ships along the eastern coast of the U.S. Whether he had a romantic relationship with Blackbeard or not is uncertain.</p><p><a href="https://awardsradar.com/2022/06/16/interview-david-jenkins/">David Jenkins</a>, the creator, said that pirates weren’t really his “bag” but the idea of someone in what he called “existential freefall” like Stede Bonnet was fascinating to him. The fact that Stede was a wealthy landowner in an unhappy marriage who just wanted to leave it all was really appealing.  </p><p>About it being a love story, Jenkins said, “It’s show about falling in love more than it’s a show about people’s reaction to gayness in that era.” And he added that so often, shows about gay romance are really about gay trauma. And <i>Our Flag Means Death </i>is more about romance.</p><p>What B2B Companies Can Learn From<i> Our Flag Means Death</i>:</p><ul><li><strong>Hire a crew that’s better than you. </strong>Get people on board who have skills and knowledge your company needs. Even if - and especially if - they’re better or more experienced than you. They will only be an asset to your growth. Mariah says, “Stede is completely incompetent as a pirate, and he hires a crew that is marginally better than him. But they all come together and they get the job done.”</li><li><strong>Muscle memory is killing your marketing strategy. </strong>Yes, it’s good to market in a way that you know works. But after a while, it just gets stale. Mariah says, “So many times, we kind of get this muscle memory and do things the same way over and over again. It's hard to break out of that. Be brave and try new things. And if something's not working, it's okay to start over.” Though Stede Bonnet was not always brave, it’s in starting his new life as a pirate that he goes on a journey of self-discovery. And that’s pretty brave, in the end.</li><li><strong>Fly your human flag. </strong>Drop the high tech facade, and be human. Write like a human, and include pictures of your customers and employees. Mariah says, “Being vulnerable and authentic is something that we don't do enough of and B2B marketing in general. We don’t humanize our companies. I'm in the AI space, and it's all these super high tech terms. We can talk about productivity and all this stuff, but really we're speaking to human beings. And so I think that that ability to be vulnerable and really speak to people is something that we can learn from this show.” <i>Our Flag Means Death </i>shows the vulnerable side of their male characters, which you would have never seen in something like <i>Treasure Island</i>, which was all swashbuckling machismo. In this show, the crew read each other stories and are encouraged to talk about their feelings. It sucks viewers into the story and results in their investment in the characters.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*What are the stories we're telling that are building that trust? Where are we helping people right now when they really need it without asking anything else of them in that moment? And being patient and knowing that the efforts that we're putting into it right now are leading to that moment and of change, of making that purchase and influencing those decisions?” - Mariah Petrovic</p><p>*”Messaging is the foundation of everything at a company. It's the way we talk about ourselves. It's consistency in storytelling. It's your website and your social and everything else. So getting it right, putting it out into the world, and really defining who we are as an organization is something that is really exciting.” - Mariah Petrovic</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Mariah Petrovic, Director of Content & Communications at People.ai</p><p>[2:09] Why are we talking about <i>Our Flag Means Death</i>?</p><p>[2:35] What does Mariah’s work at People.ai entail?</p><p>[3:00] What is <i>Our Flag Means Death</i> about?</p><p>[7:30] What makes <i>Our Flag Means Death</i> remarkable?</p><p>[21:03] What marketing lessons can we take from <i>Our Flag Means Death</i>?</p><p>[25:21] How does Mariah think about content?</p><p>[26:43] What’s Mariah’s content strategy? How does she prove the ROI of content?</p><p>[29:22] What will Mariah be working on and investing in in the future?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.418fc2c0-29c7-43e2-9392-50c0292337d9?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch<i> Our Flag Means Death</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mariahpetrovic/">Connect with Mariah on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.people.ai/">Learn more about People.ai</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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In this episode, we’re talking about Taika Waititi’s hit romantic comedy, Our Flag Means Death, with the help of special guest, Director of Content &amp; Communications at People.ai, Mariah Petrovic. Together, we chat about hiring a crew that’s better than you, ditching muscle-memory marketing strategies, and humanizing your content. So all aboard for this episode of Remarkable.</itunes:summary>
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In this episode, we’re talking about Taika Waititi’s hit romantic comedy, Our Flag Means Death, with the help of special guest, Director of Content &amp; Communications at People.ai, Mariah Petrovic. Together, we chat about hiring a crew that’s better than you, ditching muscle-memory marketing strategies, and humanizing your content. So all aboard for this episode of Remarkable.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Moneyball: B2B Marketing Lessons from the Academy Award-Winning Movie with Founder &amp; CMO of Entry Point 1, Tim Hillison</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Data is going to help you up your marketing game. We’re showing you how.</p><p>Right off the bat, “data analysis” probably doesn’t stir the soul. But it’s how you tune into your target audience so you can tailor your campaigns to them. Your messages will be more relevant, you’ll boost engagement, and not only convert leads but create lasting customer relationships. In other words, it’s by leveraging data that you graduate from bush league to pro. And what better way to show the benefits of leveraging data than talking about how sabermetrics shaped the world of baseball.</p><p>So In this episode, we’re talking about the Academy Award-winning movie, <i>Moneyball</i>, with the help of special guest, Founder & CMO of Entry Point 1, Tim Hillison. Together, we chat about tuning into your marketing data, doing market research to understand your ICP, and tying statistics to human stories. So batter up for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Tim Hillison</strong></p><p>Tim Hillison is the Founder & CMO of Entry Point 1, a growth advisory consultancy for B2B SaaS & Technology startups and scaleups.  He has 25 years of global marketing experience, has led marketing three times on two continents, and has worked for some of the world’s most recognized brands, including Visa, Microsoft, and PayPal. Tim’s expertise spans Fortune 500 enterprises and fast-moving venture-funded technology startups from series A - E. </p><p><strong>About Entry Point 1</strong></p><p>Entry Point 1 connects marketing strategy to business outcomes across the customer journey. Helping it’s customers build launch, and run efficient marketing programs that transform their organizations and financial results.  </p><p><strong>About </strong><i><strong>Moneyball</strong></i></p><p><i>Moneyball </i>is based on a true story about the general manager of the Oakland Athletics trying to assemble a competitive baseball team on a tight budget. This comes after the A’s loss to the Yankees the previous year, in 2001, and as they’re losing their star players. So the GM, Billy Beane, teams up with player analyst and Yale economics grad, Peter Brand, and together they use sabermetrics to evaluate and sign undervalued players.</p><p>Sabermetrics are statistics of in-game activity, including batting, pitching and fielding. The term comes from the acronym SABR, for the Society for American Baseball Research. It’s a way to look objectively at player performance. In other words, Peter Brand says it’s a way to “find value in players that nobody else can see. People are overlooked for a variety of biased reasons and perceived flaws. Age, appearance, and personality.”</p><p>So the movie is about challenging a traditional value system, where big city teams that have money can afford better players whereas small market teams have to be more strategic about who they sign.</p><p>The movie came out in 2011 and is based on a book by author Michael Lewis called <i>Moneyball: The Art of Winning an Unfair Game</i>. It stars Brad Pitt as Billy Beane and Jonah Hill as Peter Brand. It was directed by Bennett Miller and the screenplay is by Steven Zaillian and Aaron Sorkin. It was nominated for six Academy Awards, including Best Picture and Best Adapted Screenplay.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Moneyball</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Tune into your marketing data.</strong> It will tell you objectively what strategies are most effective. Use that information to dial in your content. You’ll uncover new and overlooked ways of marketing that you wouldn’t have used otherwise. Ian says that It’s like in Moneyball, when “Billy Bean realizes that you can get a player who can't run, can't catch and can't steal bases; They can only hit home runs, but that’s super valuable. And while everyone else sees them as a bad player, you see them as a gem. So what are your marketing versions of that? Is it a channel? Is it a budget item? Is it a way to create something that is consistent and repeatable that won’t be perfect, but it will be consistent?”</li><li><strong>Do market research to understand your ICP. </strong>That is, your Ideal Customer Profile. This is how you know your product is meeting an actual need, not a perceived one. Tim says, “You have to do market research for this, to understand where your customers are and where to meet them and what different channels work better for those companies. If you don't spend the time aligning your revenue team to understand that at the beginning, and you just rush right into the tactics, that's where you miss the mark.”  </li><li><strong>Tie statistics to human stories. </strong>Along with the stats you use to prove value to your audience, tell customer success stories. Because it's those human stories that will seal the deal with your audience. Ian says, “Stats are pretty boring, but stats give you a story that is extremely compelling in which there are human beings at the end of the statistic.” It’s another way to humanize your brand, by sharing stories instead of just numbers.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”[The A’s] lose like 14 games before winning 20 games in a row, which beats the record. This is what B2B marketing is about because there are lead and lag times in marketing. Marketing is not something where you do it and instantly it happens. ” - Tim Hillison</p><p>*”In your marketing, you need to find those customer stories where it went above and beyond, where they tell their family and friends about it, where it changed someone's career.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”People buy from others like them. And also we know that B2B buyers are not passive. They're out there scouring the internet to research your brand before sales even calls you. And so those that are authentic and have a strategy, meaning that they're talking with a consistent brand voice using the same story and relevant messaging, and they understand their ICP's frustrations and pain points, that is where you build future relationships.” - Tim Hillison</p><p>*”Helping people get to the next level. That's what they want. How is your software or how is your product going to help people achieve their goals? It's that level of authenticity people want to help them get there.” - Tim Hillison</p><p>*”Sometimes you try something new and it doesn't work out at first. Then you have to tweak it before it starts getting better and better and better, and then you're on a roll as a team. That energy is electric, and all it does is bring you together as a team. It’s an amazing wave of emotion that’s created in the film, too.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Tim Hillison, Founder & CMO of Entry Point 1</p><p>[2:01] Why are we talking about <i>Moneyball?</i></p><p>[3:26] What does Tim’s work at Entry Point 1 entail?</p><p>[3:48] What is <i>Moneyball</i> about?</p><p>[11:39] What makes <i>Moneyball</i> remarkable?</p><p>[17:53] What marketing lessons can we take from <i>Moneyball?</i></p><p>[42:43] What’s Tim’s content strategy?</p><p>[46:58] How does Tim prove the ROI of content?</p><p>[49:22] What are some of Tim’s favorite pieces of content or campaigns?</p><p>[51:16] What advice would Tim give to marketers today?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.a2cad119-30e3-4db1-a00e-69d61969fff5?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch Moneyball</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/timhillison/">Connect with Tim on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.entrypoint1.com/">Learn more about Entry Point 1</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2024 01:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Ian Faison, Tim Hillison, Meredith Gooderham, Scott Goodrich)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Data is going to help you up your marketing game. We’re showing you how.</p><p>Right off the bat, “data analysis” probably doesn’t stir the soul. But it’s how you tune into your target audience so you can tailor your campaigns to them. Your messages will be more relevant, you’ll boost engagement, and not only convert leads but create lasting customer relationships. In other words, it’s by leveraging data that you graduate from bush league to pro. And what better way to show the benefits of leveraging data than talking about how sabermetrics shaped the world of baseball.</p><p>So In this episode, we’re talking about the Academy Award-winning movie, <i>Moneyball</i>, with the help of special guest, Founder & CMO of Entry Point 1, Tim Hillison. Together, we chat about tuning into your marketing data, doing market research to understand your ICP, and tying statistics to human stories. So batter up for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Tim Hillison</strong></p><p>Tim Hillison is the Founder & CMO of Entry Point 1, a growth advisory consultancy for B2B SaaS & Technology startups and scaleups.  He has 25 years of global marketing experience, has led marketing three times on two continents, and has worked for some of the world’s most recognized brands, including Visa, Microsoft, and PayPal. Tim’s expertise spans Fortune 500 enterprises and fast-moving venture-funded technology startups from series A - E. </p><p><strong>About Entry Point 1</strong></p><p>Entry Point 1 connects marketing strategy to business outcomes across the customer journey. Helping it’s customers build launch, and run efficient marketing programs that transform their organizations and financial results.  </p><p><strong>About </strong><i><strong>Moneyball</strong></i></p><p><i>Moneyball </i>is based on a true story about the general manager of the Oakland Athletics trying to assemble a competitive baseball team on a tight budget. This comes after the A’s loss to the Yankees the previous year, in 2001, and as they’re losing their star players. So the GM, Billy Beane, teams up with player analyst and Yale economics grad, Peter Brand, and together they use sabermetrics to evaluate and sign undervalued players.</p><p>Sabermetrics are statistics of in-game activity, including batting, pitching and fielding. The term comes from the acronym SABR, for the Society for American Baseball Research. It’s a way to look objectively at player performance. In other words, Peter Brand says it’s a way to “find value in players that nobody else can see. People are overlooked for a variety of biased reasons and perceived flaws. Age, appearance, and personality.”</p><p>So the movie is about challenging a traditional value system, where big city teams that have money can afford better players whereas small market teams have to be more strategic about who they sign.</p><p>The movie came out in 2011 and is based on a book by author Michael Lewis called <i>Moneyball: The Art of Winning an Unfair Game</i>. It stars Brad Pitt as Billy Beane and Jonah Hill as Peter Brand. It was directed by Bennett Miller and the screenplay is by Steven Zaillian and Aaron Sorkin. It was nominated for six Academy Awards, including Best Picture and Best Adapted Screenplay.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Moneyball</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Tune into your marketing data.</strong> It will tell you objectively what strategies are most effective. Use that information to dial in your content. You’ll uncover new and overlooked ways of marketing that you wouldn’t have used otherwise. Ian says that It’s like in Moneyball, when “Billy Bean realizes that you can get a player who can't run, can't catch and can't steal bases; They can only hit home runs, but that’s super valuable. And while everyone else sees them as a bad player, you see them as a gem. So what are your marketing versions of that? Is it a channel? Is it a budget item? Is it a way to create something that is consistent and repeatable that won’t be perfect, but it will be consistent?”</li><li><strong>Do market research to understand your ICP. </strong>That is, your Ideal Customer Profile. This is how you know your product is meeting an actual need, not a perceived one. Tim says, “You have to do market research for this, to understand where your customers are and where to meet them and what different channels work better for those companies. If you don't spend the time aligning your revenue team to understand that at the beginning, and you just rush right into the tactics, that's where you miss the mark.”  </li><li><strong>Tie statistics to human stories. </strong>Along with the stats you use to prove value to your audience, tell customer success stories. Because it's those human stories that will seal the deal with your audience. Ian says, “Stats are pretty boring, but stats give you a story that is extremely compelling in which there are human beings at the end of the statistic.” It’s another way to humanize your brand, by sharing stories instead of just numbers.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”[The A’s] lose like 14 games before winning 20 games in a row, which beats the record. This is what B2B marketing is about because there are lead and lag times in marketing. Marketing is not something where you do it and instantly it happens. ” - Tim Hillison</p><p>*”In your marketing, you need to find those customer stories where it went above and beyond, where they tell their family and friends about it, where it changed someone's career.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”People buy from others like them. And also we know that B2B buyers are not passive. They're out there scouring the internet to research your brand before sales even calls you. And so those that are authentic and have a strategy, meaning that they're talking with a consistent brand voice using the same story and relevant messaging, and they understand their ICP's frustrations and pain points, that is where you build future relationships.” - Tim Hillison</p><p>*”Helping people get to the next level. That's what they want. How is your software or how is your product going to help people achieve their goals? It's that level of authenticity people want to help them get there.” - Tim Hillison</p><p>*”Sometimes you try something new and it doesn't work out at first. Then you have to tweak it before it starts getting better and better and better, and then you're on a roll as a team. That energy is electric, and all it does is bring you together as a team. It’s an amazing wave of emotion that’s created in the film, too.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Tim Hillison, Founder & CMO of Entry Point 1</p><p>[2:01] Why are we talking about <i>Moneyball?</i></p><p>[3:26] What does Tim’s work at Entry Point 1 entail?</p><p>[3:48] What is <i>Moneyball</i> about?</p><p>[11:39] What makes <i>Moneyball</i> remarkable?</p><p>[17:53] What marketing lessons can we take from <i>Moneyball?</i></p><p>[42:43] What’s Tim’s content strategy?</p><p>[46:58] How does Tim prove the ROI of content?</p><p>[49:22] What are some of Tim’s favorite pieces of content or campaigns?</p><p>[51:16] What advice would Tim give to marketers today?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.a2cad119-30e3-4db1-a00e-69d61969fff5?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch Moneyball</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/timhillison/">Connect with Tim on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.entrypoint1.com/">Learn more about Entry Point 1</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>B2B marketers take themselves so seriously. A little more humor wouldn’t hurt.</p><p>Even if you’re thinking, “I already use humor in my content,” we’re going to convince you to ramp it up. Because today, we’re looking to a company that spends about a third of its content just on humor. And despite having "wasted" content on humor, it's thanks to their booming sales that they’ve raised over $8.6 million to fund sanitation projects around the world.</p><p>In this episode, we’re talking about the eco-friendly toilet paper brand, Who Gives a Crap, with the help of special guest, Shannon Howard. Shannon is Director of Customer & Content Marketing at Intellum. Together, we talk about dedicating a third of your content to making your audience laugh, edutainment, paying attention to the details, and much more. So take a bathroom break then tune into this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Shannon Howard</strong></p><p>Shannon Howard is Director of Customer & Content Marketing at Intellum. She joined the company in March of 2023. Shannon is an experienced Customer Marketer who’s had the unique experience of building an LMS, implementing and managing learning management platforms, creating curriculum and education strategy, and marketing customer education. She loves to share Customer Education best practices from this blended perspective. Prior to Intellum, she served as Customer Marketing Manager at PeopleGrove. She has also held marketing roles at companies like Crowdvocate, Litmus, and The Predictive Index. </p><p><strong>About Intellum</strong></p><p>Intellum is the learning management system powering the world's leading education programs. Intellum's scientific, data-driven approach is based on 20 years of industry experience, and the Intellum Platform includes all of the tools an organization needs to create, deploy, manage, track, and continuously improve highly personalized, engaging educational experiences. Large brands and fast-moving companies like Google, Meta, Amazon, Twitter, BeyondTrust, Randstad, AT&T, Verizon, Mailchimp, and many others rely on Intellum to improve product utilization, customer retention, and revenue. </p><p><strong>About Who Gives a Crap Toilet Paper</strong></p><p>Who Gives a Crap Toilet Paper is a recycled toilet paper brand. They pride themselves on creating a product that’s better for the environment, as it has no inks, dyes, glues, chlorine or artificial scents. Their products can be delivered or picked up in store. And most orders ship free (over $25). But most importantly, they come with a mission to spread toilet humor and make the world a better place. They use 50% of their profits to build toilets and fund sanitation projects in developing countries. </p><p>That money goes to a non-profit called WaterAid, which helps people in those countries access clean water, sanitation and hygiene education.</p><p>The company was started by Simon Griffiths, Danny Alexander, and Jehan Ratnatunga, who are engineers and product designers, in July 2012 after they found out that 2.4 billion people, or 40% of the global population, don’t have access to a toilet. Now, according to their website, that number is down to 2 billion. </p><p>So they started a crowdfunding campaign on IndieGogo and it took about 50 hours to meet their goal, and they raised over $50,000. They launched their first product in March 2013. Now they also offer paper towels and tissues. Each roll is also wrapped in recycled paper in color and playful prints for sanitation purposes. </p><p>They’ve now raised over $13.3 million dollars (that’s Australian dollars) or $8.6 million US dollars.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Who Gives a Crap Toilet Paper:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Spend your time equally on creating content around product, impact, and humor.</strong> A third of the Who Gives a Crap blog is dedicated to bathroom humor. While that might seem like a lot of content that’s not dedicated to marketing or making a sale, Shannon says, “In B2B, we forget that there's not a company on the other side of our marketing. There's a person and they have dreams and aspirations and they have things that they struggle with and they have a sense of humor. Everybody's been asked to do more with less. We just need something to break through the noise and give us a little reprieve. And I think humor does that.”</li><li><strong>Edutain your audience on your mission. </strong>Who Gives a Crap educates their audience on their mission to provide access to clean water and sanitation around the world, but they make it fun. Shannon says, “They're talking about deforestation. They’re bringing things in that can be really heavy topics, but making them lighter. They do it in a way that's really organic and natural and funny.” Educate your audience on why what you do matters, and make it light, funny, natural and organic.</li><li><strong>Write like you talk.</strong> You’ve probably gone to a site where you have no idea what the business does, because the content is so dry and buzzword-heavy. Don’t write like that. Act like you’re explaining to a friend what you do and write it out. Shannon says, “This is something I try to think about for content when I'm writing for SEO. Okay, I'm writing for a search engine. But I'm also writing for humans. I can't write for search only, right? You need to write for real people who are going to read your content and give them a reason to want to read your content. If you can make it entertaining and maybe you're putting gifs in there or emojis, or you're breaking up the text, or you're giving some real life examples. Those are ways you don't maybe necessarily have to use humor. That's not part of your brand, but you can lighten it up a little bit.”</li><li><strong>Fit creative moments into the details.</strong> Every bit of real estate matters, whether it’s on your blog, in an email, or on a piece of packaging. Shannon says, “If you have an autoresponder, an email signature, real estate on your website, on your social media, are you paying attention to those details? Are you personalizing them? Are you speaking to your customers there?” The details and the little bits of space are opportunities to personalize, to be creative, and to speak to your customers.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Surprise and delight is a big part of B2C companies. But it's not something we always think about in B2B. We think about, like, what is the thing that is going to provide the most value? But then you think about something like loading screens. Or in Asana, when you check off a task that needs to be done, you get a little unicorn, yeti or otter that flies across the screen. So just things like that, where it's small, it doesn't add value. No one's buying it for the unicorn, but it's a way to surprise and delight your customers. And that does make a difference. I think we forget those little things can mean a lot more to people. They can be really impactful moments.” - Shannon Howard</p><p>*”When it comes to brand voice, think about if you were to walk up to our brand at a party. What would they be like? Think about your brand and what would that brand look like personified in the real world.” - Shannon Howard</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Shannon Howard, Director of Customer & Content Marketing at Intellum</p><p>[2:03] Why are we talking about Who Gives a Crap toilet paper?</p><p>[3:57] What does Shannon’s work at Intellum entail?</p><p>[5:24] What is Who Gives a Crap toilet paper?</p><p>[10:22] What makes Who Gives a Crap remarkable?</p><p>[13:15] What are marketing lessons we can take away from Who Gives a Crap?</p><p>[26:51] What is Shannon’s content strategy at Intellum?</p><p>[35:14] How does Shannon think about proving the ROI of content?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://us.whogivesacrap.org/">Check out Who Gives a Crap Toilet Paper</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shannonlagassehoward/">Connect with Shannon on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.intellum.com/">Learn more about Intellum</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B2B marketers take themselves so seriously. A little more humor wouldn’t hurt.</p><p>Even if you’re thinking, “I already use humor in my content,” we’re going to convince you to ramp it up. Because today, we’re looking to a company that spends about a third of its content just on humor. And despite having "wasted" content on humor, it's thanks to their booming sales that they’ve raised over $8.6 million to fund sanitation projects around the world.</p><p>In this episode, we’re talking about the eco-friendly toilet paper brand, Who Gives a Crap, with the help of special guest, Shannon Howard. Shannon is Director of Customer & Content Marketing at Intellum. Together, we talk about dedicating a third of your content to making your audience laugh, edutainment, paying attention to the details, and much more. So take a bathroom break then tune into this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Shannon Howard</strong></p><p>Shannon Howard is Director of Customer & Content Marketing at Intellum. She joined the company in March of 2023. Shannon is an experienced Customer Marketer who’s had the unique experience of building an LMS, implementing and managing learning management platforms, creating curriculum and education strategy, and marketing customer education. She loves to share Customer Education best practices from this blended perspective. Prior to Intellum, she served as Customer Marketing Manager at PeopleGrove. She has also held marketing roles at companies like Crowdvocate, Litmus, and The Predictive Index. </p><p><strong>About Intellum</strong></p><p>Intellum is the learning management system powering the world's leading education programs. Intellum's scientific, data-driven approach is based on 20 years of industry experience, and the Intellum Platform includes all of the tools an organization needs to create, deploy, manage, track, and continuously improve highly personalized, engaging educational experiences. Large brands and fast-moving companies like Google, Meta, Amazon, Twitter, BeyondTrust, Randstad, AT&T, Verizon, Mailchimp, and many others rely on Intellum to improve product utilization, customer retention, and revenue. </p><p><strong>About Who Gives a Crap Toilet Paper</strong></p><p>Who Gives a Crap Toilet Paper is a recycled toilet paper brand. They pride themselves on creating a product that’s better for the environment, as it has no inks, dyes, glues, chlorine or artificial scents. Their products can be delivered or picked up in store. And most orders ship free (over $25). But most importantly, they come with a mission to spread toilet humor and make the world a better place. They use 50% of their profits to build toilets and fund sanitation projects in developing countries. </p><p>That money goes to a non-profit called WaterAid, which helps people in those countries access clean water, sanitation and hygiene education.</p><p>The company was started by Simon Griffiths, Danny Alexander, and Jehan Ratnatunga, who are engineers and product designers, in July 2012 after they found out that 2.4 billion people, or 40% of the global population, don’t have access to a toilet. Now, according to their website, that number is down to 2 billion. </p><p>So they started a crowdfunding campaign on IndieGogo and it took about 50 hours to meet their goal, and they raised over $50,000. They launched their first product in March 2013. Now they also offer paper towels and tissues. Each roll is also wrapped in recycled paper in color and playful prints for sanitation purposes. </p><p>They’ve now raised over $13.3 million dollars (that’s Australian dollars) or $8.6 million US dollars.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>Who Gives a Crap Toilet Paper:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Spend your time equally on creating content around product, impact, and humor.</strong> A third of the Who Gives a Crap blog is dedicated to bathroom humor. While that might seem like a lot of content that’s not dedicated to marketing or making a sale, Shannon says, “In B2B, we forget that there's not a company on the other side of our marketing. There's a person and they have dreams and aspirations and they have things that they struggle with and they have a sense of humor. Everybody's been asked to do more with less. We just need something to break through the noise and give us a little reprieve. And I think humor does that.”</li><li><strong>Edutain your audience on your mission. </strong>Who Gives a Crap educates their audience on their mission to provide access to clean water and sanitation around the world, but they make it fun. Shannon says, “They're talking about deforestation. They’re bringing things in that can be really heavy topics, but making them lighter. They do it in a way that's really organic and natural and funny.” Educate your audience on why what you do matters, and make it light, funny, natural and organic.</li><li><strong>Write like you talk.</strong> You’ve probably gone to a site where you have no idea what the business does, because the content is so dry and buzzword-heavy. Don’t write like that. Act like you’re explaining to a friend what you do and write it out. Shannon says, “This is something I try to think about for content when I'm writing for SEO. Okay, I'm writing for a search engine. But I'm also writing for humans. I can't write for search only, right? You need to write for real people who are going to read your content and give them a reason to want to read your content. If you can make it entertaining and maybe you're putting gifs in there or emojis, or you're breaking up the text, or you're giving some real life examples. Those are ways you don't maybe necessarily have to use humor. That's not part of your brand, but you can lighten it up a little bit.”</li><li><strong>Fit creative moments into the details.</strong> Every bit of real estate matters, whether it’s on your blog, in an email, or on a piece of packaging. Shannon says, “If you have an autoresponder, an email signature, real estate on your website, on your social media, are you paying attention to those details? Are you personalizing them? Are you speaking to your customers there?” The details and the little bits of space are opportunities to personalize, to be creative, and to speak to your customers.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Surprise and delight is a big part of B2C companies. But it's not something we always think about in B2B. We think about, like, what is the thing that is going to provide the most value? But then you think about something like loading screens. Or in Asana, when you check off a task that needs to be done, you get a little unicorn, yeti or otter that flies across the screen. So just things like that, where it's small, it doesn't add value. No one's buying it for the unicorn, but it's a way to surprise and delight your customers. And that does make a difference. I think we forget those little things can mean a lot more to people. They can be really impactful moments.” - Shannon Howard</p><p>*”When it comes to brand voice, think about if you were to walk up to our brand at a party. What would they be like? Think about your brand and what would that brand look like personified in the real world.” - Shannon Howard</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Shannon Howard, Director of Customer & Content Marketing at Intellum</p><p>[2:03] Why are we talking about Who Gives a Crap toilet paper?</p><p>[3:57] What does Shannon’s work at Intellum entail?</p><p>[5:24] What is Who Gives a Crap toilet paper?</p><p>[10:22] What makes Who Gives a Crap remarkable?</p><p>[13:15] What are marketing lessons we can take away from Who Gives a Crap?</p><p>[26:51] What is Shannon’s content strategy at Intellum?</p><p>[35:14] How does Shannon think about proving the ROI of content?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://us.whogivesacrap.org/">Check out Who Gives a Crap Toilet Paper</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shannonlagassehoward/">Connect with Shannon on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.intellum.com/">Learn more about Intellum</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Who Gives a Crap Toilet Paper: B2B Marketing Lessons from the Eco-Friendly Brand with Director of Customer &amp; Content Marketing at Intellum, Shannon Howard</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:summary>B2B marketers take themselves so seriously. A little more humor wouldn’t hurt.

Even if you’re thinking, “I already use humor in my content,” we’re going to convince you to ramp it up. Because today, we’re looking to a company that spends about a third of its content just on humor. And despite having &quot;wasted&quot; content on humor, it&apos;s thanks to their booming sales that they’ve raised over $8.6 million to fund sanitation projects around the world.

In this episode, we’re talking about the eco-friendly toilet paper brand, Who Gives a Crap, with the help of special guest, Shannon Howard. Shannon is Director of Customer &amp; Content Marketing at Intellum. Together, we talk about dedicating a third of your content to making your audience laugh, edutainment, paying attention to the details, and much more. So take a bathroom break then tune into this episode of Remarkable.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>B2B marketers take themselves so seriously. A little more humor wouldn’t hurt.

Even if you’re thinking, “I already use humor in my content,” we’re going to convince you to ramp it up. Because today, we’re looking to a company that spends about a third of its content just on humor. And despite having &quot;wasted&quot; content on humor, it&apos;s thanks to their booming sales that they’ve raised over $8.6 million to fund sanitation projects around the world.

In this episode, we’re talking about the eco-friendly toilet paper brand, Who Gives a Crap, with the help of special guest, Shannon Howard. Shannon is Director of Customer &amp; Content Marketing at Intellum. Together, we talk about dedicating a third of your content to making your audience laugh, edutainment, paying attention to the details, and much more. So take a bathroom break then tune into this episode of Remarkable.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Drop the technical jargon. Instead, speak your audience’s language.</p><p>Language has power. And talking to your audience not as “marketer” but as someone who understands your customer’s world is key. This means speaking to their cares, concerns and frustrations. Do this and your audience engagement will soar. </p><p>In this episode, we’re looking at a show that literally speaks its audience’s languages: Spanish and English. It’s Apple TV’s first bilingual comedy, <i>Acapulco</i>, a show that has been recognized by the Imagen Foundation for its meaningful portrayal of latinos in the media. And together with the help of our special guest, Head of Americas Marketing, Cristina Daroca, we talk about showing the outcome first, speaking your audience’s language, choosing a visually stunning setting, and more. So grab your sunglasses for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Cristina Daroca</strong></p><p>Cristina Daroca is Senior Director of Global Demand and Americas Marketing at Riverbed Technology. She joined Aternity in July of 2020 as Director of Global Demand Generation, and the company merged with Riverbed in December of 2021. She previously served as Senior Manager of Global Marketing Programs for DataRobot. She has also worked at companies like Mighty AI and LevelUp. She was born and raised in Spain, and now lives in Boston.</p><p><strong>About Riverbed</strong></p><p>Riverbed transforms data into actionable insights across the entire digital ecosystem and accelerates performance for a seamless digital experience. Riverbed is the only company with the collective richness of telemetry from network to app to end user, that illuminates and then accelerates every interaction, so organizations can deliver a seamless digital experience and drive enterprise performance. Riverbed offers two industry-leading portfolios: Alluvio by Riverbed, a differentiated Unified Observability portfolio that unifies data, insights, and actions across IT, so customers can deliver seamless, secure digital experiences; and Riverbed Acceleration, providing fast, agile, secure acceleration of any app, over any network, to users anywhere. They have thousands of partners, and market-leading customers globally – including 95% of the FORTUNE 100. Riverbed is headquartered in San Francisco, but they have lots of employees in the Boston area because of an acquisition.</p><p><strong>About </strong><i><strong>Acapulco</strong></i></p><p><i>Acapulco</i> is a TV show about a 20-something Mexican guy named Maximo who gets the job of his dreams working at a luxury resort in Acapulco. But then he finds out that it’s much more complicated than he expected. His new co-workers refuse to show him the ropes, the guests are super demanding, and he finds that it creates challenges at home. The story is told in flashbacks by an older Maximo who has clearly had a successful career, as he’s now living in a beautiful seaside house, looking back on his beginnings. </p><p>The show stars Eugenio Derbez as the mature Maximo Gallardo, and young Maximo is played by Enrique Arrizon. Maximo’s best friend, Memo, who he works with at Las Colinas is played by Fernando Carsa. His boss, Don Pablo, is played by Damian Alcazar. And his love interest, Julia, is played by Camila Perez.</p><p>It premiered in 2021, with two seasons out on Apple TV, and a third on the way. And it’s been nominated for the Critics Choice Awards, Hollywood Critics Association Television Awards, Imagen Foundation Awards, and more. It’s Apple TV’s first Spanish bilingual comedy.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Acapulco</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Show the outcome first. </strong>Customers want to hear about results. Then you can support those results with details of how you help them get there. It’s like how In <i>Acapulco</i>, we meet an older, wealthy Maximo who tells his story in flashbacks of how he became successful. Ian says, “A lot of times, we'll say 10 X ROI, here's your case study. But if we get the story element at the beginning part of it using flashbacks, you can tell a story that's gripping from the moment you dig into it.“ And Cristina adds, “Sometimes I think we get too hung up on, ‘What's the pain that the customer is feeling? What's the problem like?’ Let's paint a picture of what the end state looks like for them, and then walk them through, ‘This is how you get there.’” Give your audience a glimpse of their future after they’ve been using your product to grab their attention.</li><li><strong>Speak your audience’s language. </strong>Cristina says, “Especially in B2B, we tend to be very buttoned up and using fancy words. And hey, we're talking to humans. It's so important in marketing to know your customer's language, to use the language they're using to really speak the way they do.” She says that’s why <i>Acapulco</i> really resonates with her as a bilingual Spanish and English speaker. </li><li><strong>Choose a visually stunning setting.</strong> 80s Acapulco was a beautiful and evocative place that had cachet as a celebrity vacation spot. This is hugely important, because Ian says, “If you were to tell the same story in Finland in the winter, for example, it would feel extremely different than telling the story in Acapulco in the 80s. It’s another piece that we often don't think of setting when we do our marketing stories, because we’re in an office. Setting is so important and we don't think about it enough in B2B marketing.”</li><li><strong>Capitalize on the resources you have.</strong> Everyone is working on tight budgets with limited resources. But Cristina says, “We can control what we have and what we can make out of it, and how we can make it a good experience for our customers, for our guests, for the audience that we're serving.” Maximo came from humble beginnings, having been raised by a single mother. But he used what resources he did have to find success. So focus on doing your best work with what you have.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”It's so important in marketing to know your customer's language. To use the language they're using to really speak the way they do. Especially in B2B. We tend to be very buttoned up and use fancy words. And hey, we're talking to humans. They're also humans. They're talking the same language. So yeah, just really understand your customers, know how they speak and use that same language with them.” - Cristina Daroca</p><p>*”This is what it is. The economy is what it is. It's all out of our control. We can't really control the budget cuts, the team cuts. What we can control is what we have and what we can make out of it. And how we can make it a good experience for our customers, for our guests, for the audience that we're serving.” - Cristina Daroca</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Cristina Daroca, Head of Americas Marketing at Riverbed</p><p>[1:50] Why are we talking about <i>Acapulco</i>?</p><p>[2:19] What does Cristina’s work at Riverbed entail?</p><p>[2:59] What is <i>Acapulco</i> about?</p><p>[6:05] Why is it important to speak your audience’s language?</p><p>[6:53] About the setting of <i>Acapulco</i></p><p>[14:08] What are marketing lessons we can take from <i>Acapulco</i>?</p><p>[22:01] How does Cristina think about marketing at Riverbed?</p><p>[24:17] How does Cristina prove the ROI of content?</p><p>[25:08] What marketing strategy has worked well for Cristina in the past?</p><p>[26:10] Learn more about Riverbed’s roadshow</p><p>[32:12] What advice would Cristina give to other marketers?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/acapulco/umc.cmc.8xrkg9zywke7g6a9ahmvpr3l">Watch Acapulco</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/cristinadaroca/">Connect with Cristina on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.riverbed.com/">Learn more about Riverbed</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drop the technical jargon. Instead, speak your audience’s language.</p><p>Language has power. And talking to your audience not as “marketer” but as someone who understands your customer’s world is key. This means speaking to their cares, concerns and frustrations. Do this and your audience engagement will soar. </p><p>In this episode, we’re looking at a show that literally speaks its audience’s languages: Spanish and English. It’s Apple TV’s first bilingual comedy, <i>Acapulco</i>, a show that has been recognized by the Imagen Foundation for its meaningful portrayal of latinos in the media. And together with the help of our special guest, Head of Americas Marketing, Cristina Daroca, we talk about showing the outcome first, speaking your audience’s language, choosing a visually stunning setting, and more. So grab your sunglasses for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Cristina Daroca</strong></p><p>Cristina Daroca is Senior Director of Global Demand and Americas Marketing at Riverbed Technology. She joined Aternity in July of 2020 as Director of Global Demand Generation, and the company merged with Riverbed in December of 2021. She previously served as Senior Manager of Global Marketing Programs for DataRobot. She has also worked at companies like Mighty AI and LevelUp. She was born and raised in Spain, and now lives in Boston.</p><p><strong>About Riverbed</strong></p><p>Riverbed transforms data into actionable insights across the entire digital ecosystem and accelerates performance for a seamless digital experience. Riverbed is the only company with the collective richness of telemetry from network to app to end user, that illuminates and then accelerates every interaction, so organizations can deliver a seamless digital experience and drive enterprise performance. Riverbed offers two industry-leading portfolios: Alluvio by Riverbed, a differentiated Unified Observability portfolio that unifies data, insights, and actions across IT, so customers can deliver seamless, secure digital experiences; and Riverbed Acceleration, providing fast, agile, secure acceleration of any app, over any network, to users anywhere. They have thousands of partners, and market-leading customers globally – including 95% of the FORTUNE 100. Riverbed is headquartered in San Francisco, but they have lots of employees in the Boston area because of an acquisition.</p><p><strong>About </strong><i><strong>Acapulco</strong></i></p><p><i>Acapulco</i> is a TV show about a 20-something Mexican guy named Maximo who gets the job of his dreams working at a luxury resort in Acapulco. But then he finds out that it’s much more complicated than he expected. His new co-workers refuse to show him the ropes, the guests are super demanding, and he finds that it creates challenges at home. The story is told in flashbacks by an older Maximo who has clearly had a successful career, as he’s now living in a beautiful seaside house, looking back on his beginnings. </p><p>The show stars Eugenio Derbez as the mature Maximo Gallardo, and young Maximo is played by Enrique Arrizon. Maximo’s best friend, Memo, who he works with at Las Colinas is played by Fernando Carsa. His boss, Don Pablo, is played by Damian Alcazar. 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But if we get the story element at the beginning part of it using flashbacks, you can tell a story that's gripping from the moment you dig into it.“ And Cristina adds, “Sometimes I think we get too hung up on, ‘What's the pain that the customer is feeling? What's the problem like?’ Let's paint a picture of what the end state looks like for them, and then walk them through, ‘This is how you get there.’” Give your audience a glimpse of their future after they’ve been using your product to grab their attention.</li><li><strong>Speak your audience’s language. </strong>Cristina says, “Especially in B2B, we tend to be very buttoned up and using fancy words. And hey, we're talking to humans. It's so important in marketing to know your customer's language, to use the language they're using to really speak the way they do.” She says that’s why <i>Acapulco</i> really resonates with her as a bilingual Spanish and English speaker. </li><li><strong>Choose a visually stunning setting.</strong> 80s Acapulco was a beautiful and evocative place that had cachet as a celebrity vacation spot. This is hugely important, because Ian says, “If you were to tell the same story in Finland in the winter, for example, it would feel extremely different than telling the story in Acapulco in the 80s. It’s another piece that we often don't think of setting when we do our marketing stories, because we’re in an office. Setting is so important and we don't think about it enough in B2B marketing.”</li><li><strong>Capitalize on the resources you have.</strong> Everyone is working on tight budgets with limited resources. But Cristina says, “We can control what we have and what we can make out of it, and how we can make it a good experience for our customers, for our guests, for the audience that we're serving.” Maximo came from humble beginnings, having been raised by a single mother. But he used what resources he did have to find success. So focus on doing your best work with what you have.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”It's so important in marketing to know your customer's language. To use the language they're using to really speak the way they do. Especially in B2B. We tend to be very buttoned up and use fancy words. And hey, we're talking to humans. They're also humans. They're talking the same language. So yeah, just really understand your customers, know how they speak and use that same language with them.” - Cristina Daroca</p><p>*”This is what it is. The economy is what it is. It's all out of our control. We can't really control the budget cuts, the team cuts. What we can control is what we have and what we can make out of it. And how we can make it a good experience for our customers, for our guests, for the audience that we're serving.” - Cristina Daroca</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Cristina Daroca, Head of Americas Marketing at Riverbed</p><p>[1:50] Why are we talking about <i>Acapulco</i>?</p><p>[2:19] What does Cristina’s work at Riverbed entail?</p><p>[2:59] What is <i>Acapulco</i> about?</p><p>[6:05] Why is it important to speak your audience’s language?</p><p>[6:53] About the setting of <i>Acapulco</i></p><p>[14:08] What are marketing lessons we can take from <i>Acapulco</i>?</p><p>[22:01] How does Cristina think about marketing at Riverbed?</p><p>[24:17] How does Cristina prove the ROI of content?</p><p>[25:08] What marketing strategy has worked well for Cristina in the past?</p><p>[26:10] Learn more about Riverbed’s roadshow</p><p>[32:12] What advice would Cristina give to other marketers?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/acapulco/umc.cmc.8xrkg9zywke7g6a9ahmvpr3l">Watch Acapulco</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/cristinadaroca/">Connect with Cristina on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.riverbed.com/">Learn more about Riverbed</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Your content has the power to reposition your brand’s place in the industry. It’s time for you to take the lead. </p><p>So we’re sharing a story with you about a campaign that did just that. IBM’s Outthink campaign declared the beginning of the cognitive era; an era in which they were no longer a company that just sells technology. The campaign repositioned them as a thought leader in this new era.</p><p>And in this episode, we’re analyzing IBM’s Outthink campaign with the help of our special guest, Founder & CEO of Omnia Strategy Group, Jessica Marie. Together, we talk about capitalizing on the moment, venturing outside your branding, and taking high quality photos and videos. So put your thinking caps on for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Jessica Marie</strong></p><p>Jessica is an accomplished visionary strategist and catalyst in the tech industry, renowned for her achievements within the B2B cybersecurity space. She's helped leading organizations in Silicon Valley, and played a pivotal role, from guiding companies through multiple funding rounds, to achieving notable successes and lucrative exits.</p><p>Her expertise in discovery, positioning, product marketing and thought leadership has driven multi-million dollar product launches, media campaigns, and helped transform organizational dynamics during times of uncertainty.</p><p>Recognized for her ability to think beyond conventional methods and bring a deeper perspective to any situation, Jessica's profound understanding of the technology industry and emerging trends has positioned her as a trusted advisor and industry influencer.</p><p>Jessica's personal philosophy is rooted in her manifold interests and experiences. As a writer, artist, and futurist, she delves into the complexities of societal patterns and trends, casting a visionary eye towards the potential futures of humanity. Her diverse areas of curiosity, including technology ethics, spirituality, ancient teachings, and economics, are colored by her personal voyage through depth psychotherapy, spiritual exploration, travel, and artistic expression.</p><p>As the founder of Omnia Strategy Group, she draws on both her personal and professional experience, leveraging her strategic insights to help companies and leaders create and maintain a positive impact in the world, while shaping the future of the technology landscape.</p><p><strong>About Omnia Strategy Group</strong></p><p>Omnia Strategy Group is a visionary guide for B2B tech startups poised to become market leaders. Their mission is to identify potential, fuel growth, and drive companies out of stealth mode and into the forefront of their industries. They specialize in product marketing, thought leadership, and strategic positioning, leveraging our unique insights to catapult tech companies to success. At Omnia, we redefine the future of technology, turning possibilities into reality, and startups into industry pioneers.</p><p><strong>About IBM’s Outthink Campaign</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.ibm.com/smarterplanet/us/en/">IBM’s “Outthink” campaign</a> was created by ad agency Ogilvy, and launched in 2015 to promote IBM Watson, a data analytics processor. Watson uses Natural Language Processing to understand a question, analyze tons of data, and come back with an answer based on the data. In other words, you ask Watson a question, and it returns momentarily with an answer based on data across the internet that it has analyzed. It’s named after former IBM CEO Thomas J. Watson, and became world famous after beating human contestants in Jeopardy in 2011. IBM CEO Ginni Rometty says the goal was to “redefine the relationship between man and machine.” It’s been used in healthcare, finance, retail, and more. </p><p>So the “Outthink” campaign promoted this idea of cognitive business through the use of Watson. In that by using Watson, you’re leveraging a tool that will enable employees to work faster and smarter. And give you a leg up on your competitors. It was considered an integrated media campaign, and consisted of a series of print, digital and video ads, the print versions which featured in the New York Times and The Wall Street Journal. Each ad was different, so an example of what this looked like was an ad targeting the cybersecurity industry. It’s a full-color image of a network of connections lit up in the shape of an eye. And it says, “Outthink threats”. In smaller text, it says, “Seeing threats others might miss helps you respond to attacks before they endanger your business.” It goes on to explain how IBM Security and Watson scan blogs, forums and bulletins to gain security intelligence, while being able to search through unstructured data to find threats.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>IBM’s Outthink Campaign:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Capitalize on the moment. </strong>Timing is everything. Jessica says IBM launched their Outthink campaign when “cognitive computing was just starting to enter the public sphere. AI was still this Star Trek concept. And IBM capitalized on that moment with a campaign that was both educational and inspirational. It set the stage for discussions about the future of technology in a way that was really accessible. And AI was suddenly a topic that we could have real conversations about.” So launch content that speaks to the moment in your industry and position your brand as a thought leader.</li><li><strong>Venture outside your branding. </strong>A standalone campaign is an opportunity to be adventurous in your marketing. Jessica says, “Creativity and design are incredibly powerful in helping to further messaging. Even when it's really out there and creative, it really stops you.” The Outthink campaign was a clear departure from the black and blue colors with stark geometric shapes normally used in IBM’s branding. And because it was, the campaign stood out. So create a campaign with its own unique look to grab attention.</li><li><strong>Take high quality photos and videos. </strong>The images in IBM’s Outthink campaign are captivating. They’re well-lit, sharp, detailed and vibrant. Ian says, “Get a photographer and take some really cool photos of your actual customers. It's always worth the money to take high quality photo and video.” It humanizes your brand, highlights your customers, and is visually compelling.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”With a lot of the earlier stage companies that I work with, there are so many priorities. And a lot of the time, unfortunately, what ends up happening is that their story isn't told. And so a lot of the time their messaging and positioning will suffer because of that. I don't think it's possible to really get to great content unless there is solid messaging and positioning. And you can't get to messaging and positioning without really diving deep into the story and the narrative of that company.” - Jessica Marie</p><p>*”There's a tendency to think that we have to be really technical about things to show the value. Like that's just not true. We can show value based on how we are solving a problem that no one else is in a way that no one else is. How is it making your life easier? Like, those things are compelling.” - Jessica Marie</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Jessica Marie, Founder & CEO of Omnia Strategy Group</p><p>[2:42] Why are we talking about IBM’s Outthink campaign?</p><p>[5:07] Tell me more about the Outthink campaign.</p><p>[9:22] What makes the Outthink campaign remarkable?</p><p>[16:32] What marketing lessons can we take from the Outthink campaign?</p><p>[26:00] How does Jessica think about marketing at Omnia?</p><p>[35:57] How does Jessica think about the ROI of content?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="http://www.denniskung.work/new-page-4">See IBM’s Outthink Campaign</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicamariemba/">Connect with Jessica on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.workwithomnia.com/">Learn more about Omnia Strategy Group</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Ian Faison, Jessica Marie, Meredith Gooderham, Scott Goodrich)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your content has the power to reposition your brand’s place in the industry. It’s time for you to take the lead. </p><p>So we’re sharing a story with you about a campaign that did just that. IBM’s Outthink campaign declared the beginning of the cognitive era; an era in which they were no longer a company that just sells technology. The campaign repositioned them as a thought leader in this new era.</p><p>And in this episode, we’re analyzing IBM’s Outthink campaign with the help of our special guest, Founder & CEO of Omnia Strategy Group, Jessica Marie. Together, we talk about capitalizing on the moment, venturing outside your branding, and taking high quality photos and videos. So put your thinking caps on for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Jessica Marie</strong></p><p>Jessica is an accomplished visionary strategist and catalyst in the tech industry, renowned for her achievements within the B2B cybersecurity space. She's helped leading organizations in Silicon Valley, and played a pivotal role, from guiding companies through multiple funding rounds, to achieving notable successes and lucrative exits.</p><p>Her expertise in discovery, positioning, product marketing and thought leadership has driven multi-million dollar product launches, media campaigns, and helped transform organizational dynamics during times of uncertainty.</p><p>Recognized for her ability to think beyond conventional methods and bring a deeper perspective to any situation, Jessica's profound understanding of the technology industry and emerging trends has positioned her as a trusted advisor and industry influencer.</p><p>Jessica's personal philosophy is rooted in her manifold interests and experiences. As a writer, artist, and futurist, she delves into the complexities of societal patterns and trends, casting a visionary eye towards the potential futures of humanity. Her diverse areas of curiosity, including technology ethics, spirituality, ancient teachings, and economics, are colored by her personal voyage through depth psychotherapy, spiritual exploration, travel, and artistic expression.</p><p>As the founder of Omnia Strategy Group, she draws on both her personal and professional experience, leveraging her strategic insights to help companies and leaders create and maintain a positive impact in the world, while shaping the future of the technology landscape.</p><p><strong>About Omnia Strategy Group</strong></p><p>Omnia Strategy Group is a visionary guide for B2B tech startups poised to become market leaders. Their mission is to identify potential, fuel growth, and drive companies out of stealth mode and into the forefront of their industries. They specialize in product marketing, thought leadership, and strategic positioning, leveraging our unique insights to catapult tech companies to success. At Omnia, we redefine the future of technology, turning possibilities into reality, and startups into industry pioneers.</p><p><strong>About IBM’s Outthink Campaign</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.ibm.com/smarterplanet/us/en/">IBM’s “Outthink” campaign</a> was created by ad agency Ogilvy, and launched in 2015 to promote IBM Watson, a data analytics processor. Watson uses Natural Language Processing to understand a question, analyze tons of data, and come back with an answer based on the data. In other words, you ask Watson a question, and it returns momentarily with an answer based on data across the internet that it has analyzed. It’s named after former IBM CEO Thomas J. Watson, and became world famous after beating human contestants in Jeopardy in 2011. IBM CEO Ginni Rometty says the goal was to “redefine the relationship between man and machine.” It’s been used in healthcare, finance, retail, and more. </p><p>So the “Outthink” campaign promoted this idea of cognitive business through the use of Watson. In that by using Watson, you’re leveraging a tool that will enable employees to work faster and smarter. And give you a leg up on your competitors. It was considered an integrated media campaign, and consisted of a series of print, digital and video ads, the print versions which featured in the New York Times and The Wall Street Journal. Each ad was different, so an example of what this looked like was an ad targeting the cybersecurity industry. It’s a full-color image of a network of connections lit up in the shape of an eye. And it says, “Outthink threats”. In smaller text, it says, “Seeing threats others might miss helps you respond to attacks before they endanger your business.” It goes on to explain how IBM Security and Watson scan blogs, forums and bulletins to gain security intelligence, while being able to search through unstructured data to find threats.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>IBM’s Outthink Campaign:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Capitalize on the moment. </strong>Timing is everything. Jessica says IBM launched their Outthink campaign when “cognitive computing was just starting to enter the public sphere. AI was still this Star Trek concept. And IBM capitalized on that moment with a campaign that was both educational and inspirational. It set the stage for discussions about the future of technology in a way that was really accessible. And AI was suddenly a topic that we could have real conversations about.” So launch content that speaks to the moment in your industry and position your brand as a thought leader.</li><li><strong>Venture outside your branding. </strong>A standalone campaign is an opportunity to be adventurous in your marketing. Jessica says, “Creativity and design are incredibly powerful in helping to further messaging. Even when it's really out there and creative, it really stops you.” The Outthink campaign was a clear departure from the black and blue colors with stark geometric shapes normally used in IBM’s branding. And because it was, the campaign stood out. So create a campaign with its own unique look to grab attention.</li><li><strong>Take high quality photos and videos. </strong>The images in IBM’s Outthink campaign are captivating. They’re well-lit, sharp, detailed and vibrant. Ian says, “Get a photographer and take some really cool photos of your actual customers. It's always worth the money to take high quality photo and video.” It humanizes your brand, highlights your customers, and is visually compelling.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”With a lot of the earlier stage companies that I work with, there are so many priorities. And a lot of the time, unfortunately, what ends up happening is that their story isn't told. And so a lot of the time their messaging and positioning will suffer because of that. I don't think it's possible to really get to great content unless there is solid messaging and positioning. And you can't get to messaging and positioning without really diving deep into the story and the narrative of that company.” - Jessica Marie</p><p>*”There's a tendency to think that we have to be really technical about things to show the value. Like that's just not true. We can show value based on how we are solving a problem that no one else is in a way that no one else is. How is it making your life easier? Like, those things are compelling.” - Jessica Marie</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Jessica Marie, Founder & CEO of Omnia Strategy Group</p><p>[2:42] Why are we talking about IBM’s Outthink campaign?</p><p>[5:07] Tell me more about the Outthink campaign.</p><p>[9:22] What makes the Outthink campaign remarkable?</p><p>[16:32] What marketing lessons can we take from the Outthink campaign?</p><p>[26:00] How does Jessica think about marketing at Omnia?</p><p>[35:57] How does Jessica think about the ROI of content?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="http://www.denniskung.work/new-page-4">See IBM’s Outthink Campaign</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicamariemba/">Connect with Jessica on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.workwithomnia.com/">Learn more about Omnia Strategy Group</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>When new competition pops up, you gotta be ready to pivot in a fresh and sparkly direction. You’re adapting fast, staying relevant and realigning your content strategy to outshine competitors. </p><p>Especially if you plan to stick around for nearly 80 years like Mattel, you’re bound to see new brands enter the market. And sure, Bratz and L.O.L. Surprise! Dolls are cute and trendy. But they didn’t just release a record-breaking movie with an all-star cast that won the first ever Golden Globe for cinematic and box office achievement. </p><p>But for Mattel, the Barbie movie was a big pivot. So in this episode, we’re helping you prepare to pivot and take on the competition with marketing lessons from Mattel and Barbie, the movie. And we’re doing it all with the help of special guest Kylee Swenson, Director of Content Development and Owned Media at Autodesk. Together, we discuss being ready to pivot, the importance of inclusivity, and expanding your addressable market. So reminisce about your childhood weird Barbie as we get into this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Kylee Swenson</strong></p><p>Kylee Swenson is Director of Content Development & Owned Media at Autodesk. She leads a global team of writers, editors, designers, illustrators and video producers creating content in multiple languages for the Webby Award–winning publication, Design & Make with Autodesk (<a href="https://www.autodesk.com/design-make" target="_blank">https://www.autodesk.com/design-make</a>) for the global design-and-make technology company, Autodesk (Autodesk.com).</p><p>Her editorial vision is fueled by the awe-inspiring things people create with innovation and technology, from building resilient infrastructure that mitigates the impacts of climate change to designing 3D-printed skull implants that save lives.</p><p>Prior to joining Autodesk in 2012, she was a music journalist and magazine editor at publications where she interviewed artists such as Björk, Chrissie Hynde (The Pretenders), Robert Smith (The Cure), and Del the Funky Homosapien (Hieroglyphics). She’s also the author of The Recording Secrets Behind 50 Great Albums; was once nominated for a Grammy as a collaborator with the group, Nortec Collective; and is a former Governor for the San Francisco chapter of the Recording Academy.</p><p><strong>About Autodesk</strong></p><p>Autodesk is a global leader in software for architects, builders, engineers, designers, manufacturers, 3D artists, and production teams. From greener buildings to smarter products to more mesmerizing blockbusters, Autodesk software helps their customers to design and make a better world for all. Over 100 million people use Autodesk software like AutoCAD, Revit, Maya, 3ds Max, Fusion 360, SketchBook, and more to unlock their creativity and solve important design, business and environmental challenges. Their software runs on both personal computers and mobile devices and taps the infinite computing power of the cloud to help teams around the world collaborate, design, simulate and fabricate their ideas in 3D. They are headquartered in the San Francisco Bay Area and have more than 10,000 employees worldwide.</p><p><strong>About Barbie</strong></p><p>Barbie is a live action movie based on the Mattel toy. It was released this year, and stars Margot Robbie and Ryan Gosling as Ken. It’s about Barbie — who lives in an idealized, plastic world — having an existential crisis, which manifests as her feet going flat, getting cellulite and bad breath. And so she goes to see weird Barbie, played by Kate McKinnon, who tells her she has to find the girl who plays with her in the real world so that she can be cured. </p><p>Director Greta Gerwig said with the movie, she “wanted to give people –- and girls — but people the sense of you’re okay and you have value, just as you are. It is not something you earn or you need to achieve. Symbols like Barbie are an important way to reflect back the enough-ness of just being a girl, being a woman, being a person. And that’s what I wanted to explore in this movie, because Barbie’s for so long has been a symbol of the thing you could never be.”</p><p>It’s become the <a href="https://variety.com/2023/film/box-office/barbie-highest-grossing-worldwide-movie-year-1235705510/">highest grossing movie of the year</a> with over $1.4 billion globally, making Greta Gerwig the <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-67046404">most successful solo female director</a> ever. There’s speculation that stock for Mattel may rise by up to 25% because of the movie. </p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Barbie</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Be ready to pivot.</strong> Kylee says, “Companies can't wait to be disrupted by other companies. And CEOs like Ynon Kreiz need to be able to see around corners, so to speak.” So when Bratz and L.O.L. Surprise! O.M.G. dolls became popular, Mattel decided to capitalize on their intellectual property to make the live action Barbie movie.</li><li><strong>Be inclusive.</strong> Barbie, the movie, has Barbies of all skin tones, shapes, sizes, abilities, professions, etc. And of course we can’t forget weird Barbie. Kylee says inclusivity is an important value at Autodesk as a global company. She says, “We have something called the culture code and every year people are evaluated not just on what they do, but how they do it. And they're evaluated on inclusivity as a value. So, part of this code is looking at ways to check our biases. To learn to work with people from all walks of life. I have somebody on my team who's in Tokyo, somebody in Munich, somebody in Detroit. We've got people all over the world, so that culture code is very important to the company.” That inclusivity in the makeup of your company will be reflected in your content, and resonate with more people.</li><li><strong>Expand your addressable market.</strong> Kylee says, “The Barbie movie doesn't just appeal to young girls and mothers. I was really surprised that grandfathers, dads, boys, non binary people [like it]. It's really meant to be universal for everyone.” Because the movie is about existence, it appeals to everyone. So create content that speaks to the human instead of to the customer.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“We can't outgrow this notion that we are the AutoCAD company if we can't become more of a known brand that people can equate with a broad set of capabilities across architecture, engineering, construction, manufacturing, and media entertainment. We're a B2B company. We're probably not going to become a household name like Barbie, but we definitely have a lot of room to grow, and that's something that we always have to be mindful of.” - Kylee Swenson</p><p>*“What do we feel the audiences want to read about? We have to think about customers and prospects and what they care about. We also have to think about what Autodesk is. You know, what are our business goals? Connecting those things together is really, really important. But at the same time, you can't sacrifice quality, you can't sacrifice the journalistic integrity that we've been betting on for so many years.” - Kylee Swenson</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Kylee Swenson, Director of Content Development & Owned Media at Autodesk</p><p>[3:22] Learn more about Design and Make with Autodesk, formerly known as Redshift</p><p>[5:29] Why are we talking about Barbie?</p><p>[7:32] What’s Barbie, the movie, about?</p><p>[10:58] Why is Barbie remarkable?</p><p>[11:34] What are the marketing lessons in Barbie, the movie?</p><p>[18:21] How does Kylee think about and address the different customer personas at Autodesk?</p><p>[21:48] How does Kylee prove the ROI of content?</p><p>[33:37] What is Kylee working on now that she’s excited about?</p><p>[36:43] What advice would she give someone entering her position for the first time?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.17f2bd91-afd8-4ae8-8dbc-9c49066e771c?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch <i>Barbie</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kylee-swenson-gordon/">Connect with Kylee on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.autodesk.com/">Learn more about Autodesk</a></p><p><a href="https://www.autodesk.com/design-make">Check out Design and Make with Autodesk</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When new competition pops up, you gotta be ready to pivot in a fresh and sparkly direction. You’re adapting fast, staying relevant and realigning your content strategy to outshine competitors. </p><p>Especially if you plan to stick around for nearly 80 years like Mattel, you’re bound to see new brands enter the market. And sure, Bratz and L.O.L. Surprise! Dolls are cute and trendy. But they didn’t just release a record-breaking movie with an all-star cast that won the first ever Golden Globe for cinematic and box office achievement. </p><p>But for Mattel, the Barbie movie was a big pivot. So in this episode, we’re helping you prepare to pivot and take on the competition with marketing lessons from Mattel and Barbie, the movie. And we’re doing it all with the help of special guest Kylee Swenson, Director of Content Development and Owned Media at Autodesk. Together, we discuss being ready to pivot, the importance of inclusivity, and expanding your addressable market. So reminisce about your childhood weird Barbie as we get into this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Kylee Swenson</strong></p><p>Kylee Swenson is Director of Content Development & Owned Media at Autodesk. She leads a global team of writers, editors, designers, illustrators and video producers creating content in multiple languages for the Webby Award–winning publication, Design & Make with Autodesk (<a href="https://www.autodesk.com/design-make" target="_blank">https://www.autodesk.com/design-make</a>) for the global design-and-make technology company, Autodesk (Autodesk.com).</p><p>Her editorial vision is fueled by the awe-inspiring things people create with innovation and technology, from building resilient infrastructure that mitigates the impacts of climate change to designing 3D-printed skull implants that save lives.</p><p>Prior to joining Autodesk in 2012, she was a music journalist and magazine editor at publications where she interviewed artists such as Björk, Chrissie Hynde (The Pretenders), Robert Smith (The Cure), and Del the Funky Homosapien (Hieroglyphics). She’s also the author of The Recording Secrets Behind 50 Great Albums; was once nominated for a Grammy as a collaborator with the group, Nortec Collective; and is a former Governor for the San Francisco chapter of the Recording Academy.</p><p><strong>About Autodesk</strong></p><p>Autodesk is a global leader in software for architects, builders, engineers, designers, manufacturers, 3D artists, and production teams. From greener buildings to smarter products to more mesmerizing blockbusters, Autodesk software helps their customers to design and make a better world for all. Over 100 million people use Autodesk software like AutoCAD, Revit, Maya, 3ds Max, Fusion 360, SketchBook, and more to unlock their creativity and solve important design, business and environmental challenges. Their software runs on both personal computers and mobile devices and taps the infinite computing power of the cloud to help teams around the world collaborate, design, simulate and fabricate their ideas in 3D. They are headquartered in the San Francisco Bay Area and have more than 10,000 employees worldwide.</p><p><strong>About Barbie</strong></p><p>Barbie is a live action movie based on the Mattel toy. It was released this year, and stars Margot Robbie and Ryan Gosling as Ken. It’s about Barbie — who lives in an idealized, plastic world — having an existential crisis, which manifests as her feet going flat, getting cellulite and bad breath. And so she goes to see weird Barbie, played by Kate McKinnon, who tells her she has to find the girl who plays with her in the real world so that she can be cured. </p><p>Director Greta Gerwig said with the movie, she “wanted to give people –- and girls — but people the sense of you’re okay and you have value, just as you are. It is not something you earn or you need to achieve. Symbols like Barbie are an important way to reflect back the enough-ness of just being a girl, being a woman, being a person. And that’s what I wanted to explore in this movie, because Barbie’s for so long has been a symbol of the thing you could never be.”</p><p>It’s become the <a href="https://variety.com/2023/film/box-office/barbie-highest-grossing-worldwide-movie-year-1235705510/">highest grossing movie of the year</a> with over $1.4 billion globally, making Greta Gerwig the <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-67046404">most successful solo female director</a> ever. There’s speculation that stock for Mattel may rise by up to 25% because of the movie. </p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Barbie</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Be ready to pivot.</strong> Kylee says, “Companies can't wait to be disrupted by other companies. And CEOs like Ynon Kreiz need to be able to see around corners, so to speak.” So when Bratz and L.O.L. Surprise! O.M.G. dolls became popular, Mattel decided to capitalize on their intellectual property to make the live action Barbie movie.</li><li><strong>Be inclusive.</strong> Barbie, the movie, has Barbies of all skin tones, shapes, sizes, abilities, professions, etc. And of course we can’t forget weird Barbie. Kylee says inclusivity is an important value at Autodesk as a global company. She says, “We have something called the culture code and every year people are evaluated not just on what they do, but how they do it. And they're evaluated on inclusivity as a value. So, part of this code is looking at ways to check our biases. To learn to work with people from all walks of life. I have somebody on my team who's in Tokyo, somebody in Munich, somebody in Detroit. We've got people all over the world, so that culture code is very important to the company.” That inclusivity in the makeup of your company will be reflected in your content, and resonate with more people.</li><li><strong>Expand your addressable market.</strong> Kylee says, “The Barbie movie doesn't just appeal to young girls and mothers. I was really surprised that grandfathers, dads, boys, non binary people [like it]. It's really meant to be universal for everyone.” Because the movie is about existence, it appeals to everyone. So create content that speaks to the human instead of to the customer.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“We can't outgrow this notion that we are the AutoCAD company if we can't become more of a known brand that people can equate with a broad set of capabilities across architecture, engineering, construction, manufacturing, and media entertainment. We're a B2B company. We're probably not going to become a household name like Barbie, but we definitely have a lot of room to grow, and that's something that we always have to be mindful of.” - Kylee Swenson</p><p>*“What do we feel the audiences want to read about? We have to think about customers and prospects and what they care about. We also have to think about what Autodesk is. You know, what are our business goals? Connecting those things together is really, really important. But at the same time, you can't sacrifice quality, you can't sacrifice the journalistic integrity that we've been betting on for so many years.” - Kylee Swenson</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Kylee Swenson, Director of Content Development & Owned Media at Autodesk</p><p>[3:22] Learn more about Design and Make with Autodesk, formerly known as Redshift</p><p>[5:29] Why are we talking about Barbie?</p><p>[7:32] What’s Barbie, the movie, about?</p><p>[10:58] Why is Barbie remarkable?</p><p>[11:34] What are the marketing lessons in Barbie, the movie?</p><p>[18:21] How does Kylee think about and address the different customer personas at Autodesk?</p><p>[21:48] How does Kylee prove the ROI of content?</p><p>[33:37] What is Kylee working on now that she’s excited about?</p><p>[36:43] What advice would she give someone entering her position for the first time?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.17f2bd91-afd8-4ae8-8dbc-9c49066e771c?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch <i>Barbie</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kylee-swenson-gordon/">Connect with Kylee on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.autodesk.com/">Learn more about Autodesk</a></p><p><a href="https://www.autodesk.com/design-make">Check out Design and Make with Autodesk</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>When new competition pops up, you gotta be ready to pivot in a fresh and sparkly direction. You’re adapting fast, staying relevant and realigning your content strategy to outshine competitors. 

Especially if you plan to stick around for nearly 80 years like Mattel, you’re bound to see new brands enter the market. And sure, Bratz and L.O.L. Surprise! Dolls are cute and trendy. But they didn’t just release a record-breaking movie with an all-star cast that won the first ever Golden Globe for cinematic and box office achievement. 

But for Mattel, the Barbie movie was a big pivot. So in this episode, we’re helping you prepare to pivot and take on the competition with marketing lessons from Mattel and Barbie, the movie. And we’re doing it all with the help of special guest Kylee Swenson, Director of Content Development and Owned Media at Autodesk. Together, we discuss being ready to pivot, the importance of inclusivity, and expanding your addressable market. So reminisce about your childhood weird Barbie as we get into this episode of Remarkable.</itunes:summary>
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But for Mattel, the Barbie movie was a big pivot. So in this episode, we’re helping you prepare to pivot and take on the competition with marketing lessons from Mattel and Barbie, the movie. And we’re doing it all with the help of special guest Kylee Swenson, Director of Content Development and Owned Media at Autodesk. Together, we discuss being ready to pivot, the importance of inclusivity, and expanding your addressable market. So reminisce about your childhood weird Barbie as we get into this episode of Remarkable.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>There’s nothing like a B2B event. Right?…. Right? [[ *crickets* ]] </p><p>That is, there won’t be anything like a B2B event after you apply the lessons in this episode of Remarkable to your events. </p><p>It’s like how Deadheads say “There’s nothing like a Grateful Dead concert.” That’s because the Grateful Dead were selling the experience. </p><p>It was a place to go with people to meet, and all of the sights, sounds, and good vibes that made it an experience of a lifetime. </p><p>So in this episode, we’re listening to the Grateful Dead with our guest, Director of Content at LeanIX, Matthew Grant. Together, we talk about giving away content to build an audience, selling the experience, and recording the event. So grab your tie dye tee for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Matthew Grant</strong></p><p>Matthew Grant is Director, Content Marketing at LeanIX. Over the last 14 years, Matt has created content focused on a wide range of B2B technologies including cloud management, cloud security, content management, product lifecycle management, data center cooling, generative design, quantum computing, and edge computing. He has also written and spoking on user experience design, content marketing strategy, social media strategy, and patent law, among other things. Matt has hosted podcasts on data in the enterprise, B2B marketing, and cloud computing. He has a PhD in German Studies.</p><p><strong>About LeanIX</strong></p><p>LeanIX’s Continuous Transformation Platform® offers SaaS solutions to help IT architects, IT asset managers, business leaders, and DevOps teams achieve transparency and control over their enterprise architecture, SaaS, and microservices landscapes. They offer Software-as-a-Service (SaaS) for managing Enterprise Architecture and multi-cloud environments to enable organizations to take faster, data-driven decisions in their IT. </p><p><strong>About the Grateful Dead</strong></p><p>The Grateful Dead is a psychedelic band that got together in California in 1965. The founding members included Jerry Garcia (vocals, guitar), Ron “Pigpen” McKernan (vocals, organ, harmonica), Bob Weir (vocals, guitar), Bill Kreutzmann (drums), and Phil Lesh (vocals, bass). Their home stomping grounds were the Haight-Ashbury neighborhood in San Francisco. And they got their musical careers started off around the time of the Summer of Love and the counterculture movement.</p><p><strong>About the Grateful Dead Europe 72 Record Album</strong></p><p>The Grateful Dead’s Europe 72 Album is a triple album (17 songs split across three vinyl records) that was recorded in 1972 while the band was touring in Western Europe (England, Denmark, Germany, etc.)  It was recorded in April and May of that year, and released in November. The hope was that proceeds from the sale would help them recoup what they spent while on tour. Especially since they toured with an entourage of 43 people. Most of the songs were new, but it also included some live renditions of songs from studio albums. It has songs like “Brown-Eyed Woman,” “China Cat Sunflower,” and “Cumberland Blues”. Notably, it marked the last time Ron “Pigpen” McKernan, one of the original members, would play with them before passing away from an autoimmune disease that affects the liver. The album charted in the U.S. for 24 straight weeks after its release, and it was one of the first triple-record rock albums to be <a href="https://www.billboard.com/music/rock/grateful-dead-europe-72-live-album-1235166475/">certified gold</a>, and has since been certified double platinum.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>the Grateful Dead:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Give away content. </strong>Your content provides value to your audience while driving brand awareness. So when the buyer is ready, your brand is the one they think of. Matt says, “You could argue that the model for content marketing comes from the Grateful Dead. Which is, you give away content to build an audience. ‘Hey, Deadhead, send us your postcard!’ And then you get them to pay for something that can't be commodified, like an in person live experience that's only happening once.”</li><li><strong>Sell the experience. </strong>Create a unique experience for your audience around the product. When talking about the Grateful Dead, Matt says, “Music on some level is a commodity. There are better musicians than the people in The Grateful Dead, there are better songwriters than the people in The Grateful Dead, especially now when you have Spotify and all those other things, your access to music is unlike anything I had in my earlier part of my lifetime. So you've got to give people something else. The music is almost secondary. What they're really selling is an opportunity, or a space, for you to be yourself, or do your own thing, or be a freak, or be weird, or whatever, and it’s a non-judgmental zone.” So sell your audience an experience. Especially if it has good music.</li><li><strong>Record the event. </strong>So people who missed out can see it, and fans can re-live it. Ian says, “It’s a fan service to create a live album. It’s like a time capsule. And the idea that at any point in time, you could transport someone back to this moment is really interesting. Even if you weren't there, you still get to have that moment.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“It was more about the cult than it was about the actual music.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*“When people say they like The Grateful Dead, what they're remembering is this show they went to. And that time, you know, in Southern California, and it was outside, and it was at night, and everyone was chill, and we had a lot of fun. That's why they like it.”  - Matt Grant</p><p>*”It's this experience. You have to give people more if you want them to come back. If you play the same songs every time and it's a cookie cutter thing, maybe they'll see you once. But why come back?” - Matt Grant</p><p>*”In B2B tech, you can focus on content and the message. But if you don't have a product that can deliver on it, it doesn't matter.” - Matt Grant</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:56] Meet Matt Grant, Director of Content at LeanIX</p><p>[2:11] What makes the Grateful Dead’s Europe 72 album remarkable?</p><p>[27:41] What can the Grateful Dead can teach us about authenticity in marketing?</p><p> [28:35] How did the Grateful Dead build a community of Deadheads?</p><p>[30:50] Where did the Grateful Dead bear come from?</p><p>[34:25] What do the Grateful Dead and HubSpot have in common?</p><p>[38:51] What we can learn from the Grateful Dead about knowing your audience? (And more marketing lessons)</p><p>[46:32] How does Matt think about content at LeanIX?</p><p>[56:04] What does Matt think about AI when it comes to building content?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/09fKoRSQnIP9SAWKSZkWa9?si=QlDdgmqXTemLKycwxFMAYA">Listen to the Grateful Dead’s Europe 72 album</a></p><p><a href="https://help.archive.org/help/the-grateful-dead-collection/">Browse the Grateful Dead Collection on Archive.org</a></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Marketing-Lessons-Grateful-Dead-Business/dp/0470900520">Read <i>Marketing Lessons from The Grateful Dead </i>by Brian Halligan and David Meerman Scott</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewtgrant/">Connect with Matt on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.leanix.net/en/">Learn more about LeanIX</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There’s nothing like a B2B event. Right?…. Right? [[ *crickets* ]] </p><p>That is, there won’t be anything like a B2B event after you apply the lessons in this episode of Remarkable to your events. </p><p>It’s like how Deadheads say “There’s nothing like a Grateful Dead concert.” That’s because the Grateful Dead were selling the experience. </p><p>It was a place to go with people to meet, and all of the sights, sounds, and good vibes that made it an experience of a lifetime. </p><p>So in this episode, we’re listening to the Grateful Dead with our guest, Director of Content at LeanIX, Matthew Grant. Together, we talk about giving away content to build an audience, selling the experience, and recording the event. So grab your tie dye tee for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Matthew Grant</strong></p><p>Matthew Grant is Director, Content Marketing at LeanIX. Over the last 14 years, Matt has created content focused on a wide range of B2B technologies including cloud management, cloud security, content management, product lifecycle management, data center cooling, generative design, quantum computing, and edge computing. He has also written and spoking on user experience design, content marketing strategy, social media strategy, and patent law, among other things. Matt has hosted podcasts on data in the enterprise, B2B marketing, and cloud computing. He has a PhD in German Studies.</p><p><strong>About LeanIX</strong></p><p>LeanIX’s Continuous Transformation Platform® offers SaaS solutions to help IT architects, IT asset managers, business leaders, and DevOps teams achieve transparency and control over their enterprise architecture, SaaS, and microservices landscapes. They offer Software-as-a-Service (SaaS) for managing Enterprise Architecture and multi-cloud environments to enable organizations to take faster, data-driven decisions in their IT. </p><p><strong>About the Grateful Dead</strong></p><p>The Grateful Dead is a psychedelic band that got together in California in 1965. The founding members included Jerry Garcia (vocals, guitar), Ron “Pigpen” McKernan (vocals, organ, harmonica), Bob Weir (vocals, guitar), Bill Kreutzmann (drums), and Phil Lesh (vocals, bass). Their home stomping grounds were the Haight-Ashbury neighborhood in San Francisco. And they got their musical careers started off around the time of the Summer of Love and the counterculture movement.</p><p><strong>About the Grateful Dead Europe 72 Record Album</strong></p><p>The Grateful Dead’s Europe 72 Album is a triple album (17 songs split across three vinyl records) that was recorded in 1972 while the band was touring in Western Europe (England, Denmark, Germany, etc.)  It was recorded in April and May of that year, and released in November. The hope was that proceeds from the sale would help them recoup what they spent while on tour. Especially since they toured with an entourage of 43 people. Most of the songs were new, but it also included some live renditions of songs from studio albums. It has songs like “Brown-Eyed Woman,” “China Cat Sunflower,” and “Cumberland Blues”. Notably, it marked the last time Ron “Pigpen” McKernan, one of the original members, would play with them before passing away from an autoimmune disease that affects the liver. The album charted in the U.S. for 24 straight weeks after its release, and it was one of the first triple-record rock albums to be <a href="https://www.billboard.com/music/rock/grateful-dead-europe-72-live-album-1235166475/">certified gold</a>, and has since been certified double platinum.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> </strong></i><strong>the Grateful Dead:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Give away content. </strong>Your content provides value to your audience while driving brand awareness. So when the buyer is ready, your brand is the one they think of. Matt says, “You could argue that the model for content marketing comes from the Grateful Dead. Which is, you give away content to build an audience. ‘Hey, Deadhead, send us your postcard!’ And then you get them to pay for something that can't be commodified, like an in person live experience that's only happening once.”</li><li><strong>Sell the experience. </strong>Create a unique experience for your audience around the product. When talking about the Grateful Dead, Matt says, “Music on some level is a commodity. There are better musicians than the people in The Grateful Dead, there are better songwriters than the people in The Grateful Dead, especially now when you have Spotify and all those other things, your access to music is unlike anything I had in my earlier part of my lifetime. So you've got to give people something else. The music is almost secondary. What they're really selling is an opportunity, or a space, for you to be yourself, or do your own thing, or be a freak, or be weird, or whatever, and it’s a non-judgmental zone.” So sell your audience an experience. Especially if it has good music.</li><li><strong>Record the event. </strong>So people who missed out can see it, and fans can re-live it. Ian says, “It’s a fan service to create a live album. It’s like a time capsule. And the idea that at any point in time, you could transport someone back to this moment is really interesting. Even if you weren't there, you still get to have that moment.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“It was more about the cult than it was about the actual music.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*“When people say they like The Grateful Dead, what they're remembering is this show they went to. And that time, you know, in Southern California, and it was outside, and it was at night, and everyone was chill, and we had a lot of fun. That's why they like it.”  - Matt Grant</p><p>*”It's this experience. You have to give people more if you want them to come back. If you play the same songs every time and it's a cookie cutter thing, maybe they'll see you once. But why come back?” - Matt Grant</p><p>*”In B2B tech, you can focus on content and the message. But if you don't have a product that can deliver on it, it doesn't matter.” - Matt Grant</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:56] Meet Matt Grant, Director of Content at LeanIX</p><p>[2:11] What makes the Grateful Dead’s Europe 72 album remarkable?</p><p>[27:41] What can the Grateful Dead can teach us about authenticity in marketing?</p><p> [28:35] How did the Grateful Dead build a community of Deadheads?</p><p>[30:50] Where did the Grateful Dead bear come from?</p><p>[34:25] What do the Grateful Dead and HubSpot have in common?</p><p>[38:51] What we can learn from the Grateful Dead about knowing your audience? (And more marketing lessons)</p><p>[46:32] How does Matt think about content at LeanIX?</p><p>[56:04] What does Matt think about AI when it comes to building content?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/09fKoRSQnIP9SAWKSZkWa9?si=QlDdgmqXTemLKycwxFMAYA">Listen to the Grateful Dead’s Europe 72 album</a></p><p><a href="https://help.archive.org/help/the-grateful-dead-collection/">Browse the Grateful Dead Collection on Archive.org</a></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Marketing-Lessons-Grateful-Dead-Business/dp/0470900520">Read <i>Marketing Lessons from The Grateful Dead </i>by Brian Halligan and David Meerman Scott</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewtgrant/">Connect with Matt on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.leanix.net/en/">Learn more about LeanIX</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>There’s nothing like a B2B event. Right?…. Right? [[ *crickets* ]] 

That is, there won’t be anything like a B2B event after you apply the lessons in this episode of Remarkable to your events. 

It’s like how Deadheads say “There’s nothing like a Grateful Dead concert.” That’s because the Grateful Dead were selling the experience. 

It was a place to go with people to meet, and all of the sights, sounds, and good vibes that made it an experience of a lifetime. 

So in this episode, we’re listening to the Grateful Dead with our guest, Director of Content at LeanIX, Matthew Grant. Together, we talk about giving away content to build an audience, selling the experience, and recording the event. So put some flowers in your hair for this episode of Remarkable.</itunes:summary>
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That is, there won’t be anything like a B2B event after you apply the lessons in this episode of Remarkable to your events. 

It’s like how Deadheads say “There’s nothing like a Grateful Dead concert.” That’s because the Grateful Dead were selling the experience. 

It was a place to go with people to meet, and all of the sights, sounds, and good vibes that made it an experience of a lifetime. 

So in this episode, we’re listening to the Grateful Dead with our guest, Director of Content at LeanIX, Matthew Grant. Together, we talk about giving away content to build an audience, selling the experience, and recording the event. So put some flowers in your hair for this episode of Remarkable.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>When does your “audience” become a “community?” </p><p>The word “community” might make you think of the relationship you have with your neighbors; a sense of friendliness and having something in common. It’s a word that relates an emotional closeness or bond, even loyalty. We’re talking about how to build that bond with your audience today.</p><p>And who better to talk about it with than Automation Anywhere’s SVP of Community and Learning, Kristen Engelhardt. Together, we’re chatting about driving content to one part of your TAC (and what the heck is TAC anyway?), arranging a forum for deeper audience listening, and starting small. So get ready to upgrade your growth strategy with this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Kristen Engelhardt</strong></p><p>Kristen Engelhardt is SVP of Community and Learning at Automation Anywhere, having joined the company in September, 2021. Prior to her current role, she served as VP of Trailblazer Marketing and Community at Salesforce. She has also worked for companies like PeopleSoft, Cisco and Gartner.</p><p><strong>About Automation Anywhere</strong></p><p>Automation Anywhere is the leader in intelligent automation solutions that put AI to work across every aspect of an organization. The company’s Automation Success Platform is infused with generative AI and offers process discovery, RPA, end-to-end process orchestration, document processing, and analytics, with a security and governance-first approach. Automation Anywhere empowers organizations worldwide to unleash productivity gains, drive innovation, improve customer service and accelerate business growth. The company is guided by its vision to fuel the future of work by unleashing human potential through intelligent automation.</p><p><strong>About Community in Marketing</strong></p><p>The idea of community in marketing suggests that customers are more deeply engaged than just purchasing from a company. These customers are aligned with the company’s brand values, mission and brand promise. They are loyal to the brand, recommend it to friends, family and colleagues, write reviews, post about it on social media, and generally evangelize the brand. Like the Apple community where users offer suggestions and answers to customer questions separately from Apple Customer Support. </p><p><a href="https://www.mightynetworks.com/encyclopedia/community-flywheel#:~:text=A%20community%20flywheel%20is%20a,and%20engagement%2C%20translating%20into%20sales.">What is a community flywheel?</a> It’s a community-centered approach to building a brand, in which your brand joins or creates relevant communities that promote amazing experiences and engagement, translating into sales.</p><p>To use the community flywheel approach to building your business, there are five key techniques:</p><ol><li>Know your communities</li><li>Make your brand story talkable</li><li>Zoom in on hero products</li><li>Fuel the conversation across channels</li><li>Make transactions effortless</li></ol><p>According to <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/growth-marketing-and-sales/our-insights/a-better-way-to-build-a-brand-the-community-flywheel">McKinsey</a>, when you’re successfully leveraging the community flywheel approach…</p><ul><li>More than 75 percent of content about the brand is user generated.</li><li>The influencer engagement rate—that is, the percentage of viewers who go on to like, comment, or share the content—is greater than 2 percent.</li><li>More than 4 percent of online traffic is converted to sales.</li><li>Brand-related posts by either the brand or a consumer go viral at least twice a year (triggered, in some cases, by marketing support).</li></ul><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Automation Anywhere’s Community-Building Strategy:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Focus on driving content to one part of your TAC. </strong>You get better payoff with a focused approach to community-building. Kristen says, “The most successful communities we've seen are when you identify what part of the TAC you need and want to focus on to drive transformation together. It may be we're going to focus, like in Salesforce on the administrator, and we are going to surround them with the input into the product and the career support and the peer ecosystem to make them wildly successful in their role. And we found out by listening, by hearing what they're trying to solve for, that we could advance their careers and their companies through an investment in them. And in return, they share their expertise, they share their content, they speak on stage for us, they tell our brand story through theirs, but they also help us drive the business. And you get that magic flywheel.”</li><li><strong>Arrange a forum for deeper audience listening. </strong>Create a space to talk with customers and ask questions beyond your product. At Automation Anywhere, they created their Pathfinder Workshop, which is now scaled globally and has had a massive payoff. Kristen says, “We have a bright, hard line between that program and our upsell, our pipe gen, and our version of the ACV. And all of that came about the community workshop as our number one go-to-market lever because we took the leap and listened beyond the product: ‘What are you trying to do as an automation leader?’ So I love that example and the team did a phenomenal job listening, building, iterating together.”</li><li><strong>Prioritize the four pillars of community building:</strong> Destination, programs, content, and learning. These depend on how mature your business is. Kristen says, “For an early stage company, don't go out and build a destination right away. Start with the product tour or the dinner series. If you are already mature and you have so many connections and your community, your part of the TAC is saying, ‘Where do I give and get help? Where do I connect with more thought leaders? Where do I get that content?’ That's when you want to invest in the destination. So make sure you're prioritizing your pillars based on where you are and where your community is.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“Community is a category creator and an enabler that allows a company like Salesforce, like Automation Anywhere, to build an ecosystem and a job economy. And whether it's in CRM, or it's in automation, or AI, at the end of the day, community is essentially your constituency of people, regardless of role, region, market, title, that you want to use more of what you have to offer, buy more of it, and tell others to do the same, and that's the magic of community. ” - Kristen Engelhardt</p><p>*“Who you go and talk to and invest in will be different in an early stage than when you are in hyper growth and you are scaling and you want to make sure that you have a nurtured relationship with your most strategic partners and your most strategic customers. It’s a growth spectrum.”  - Kristen Engelhardt</p><p>*”The key is just to know when you're starting out, ‘What problem am I trying to solve, for which stage of growth I'm in, and which sliver, slice, piece of the TAC do I most need to invest in, understand, know, and serve?” - Kristen Engelhardt</p><p>*”You do need to invest in yourself first to create that reach. It's just that the level of investment is much lower. It's very low lift and you can pick and choose some very easy start by starting strategies before you have to go and build a 15 million member trailblazer community to drive the type of impact that McKinsey statistics are sharing.“ - Kristen Engelhardt</p><p>*”There's a push and a pull. So like, your content is supposed to push your community to react and engage and to talk to each other and to spur conversations. Whereas for community, you have to be listening, you have to be responding, you have to be doing those sort of things.  And it's a very different sort of emotion. ” - Ian Faison</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Kristen Engelhardt, SVP of Community & Learning at Automation Anywhere</p><p>[2:55] Learn more about Kristen’s work at Automation Anywhere</p><p>[4:54] Why are we talking about building community?</p><p>[6:17] What is TAC?</p><p>[17:02] Tell me more about building community in marketing</p><p>[30:41] How do you engage with your customers beyond asking about the product?</p><p>[41:40] What is Kristen’s playbook to building community?</p><p>[48:25] What’s the ROI of community?</p><p>[52:01] Who are the critical hires in building community?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://community.automationanywhere.com/guidelines-faqs-85036/welcome-to-the-pathfinder-community-85278">Join the Pathfinder Community</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristenengelhardt/">Connect with Kristen on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.automationanywhere.com/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=evgn-dg-glob-brand-aai-us-skag-en-sem&utm_term=automation%20anywhere&utm_content=https://www.automationanywhere.com/--g--c--15113722721--132024463129--e--kwd-354278112927&gclid=Cj0KCQiA7OqrBhD9ARIsAK3UXh1uofSFAthJTzsp_5OWYXMFGNl8yDdVukbjbMe3FT7VHnbisUddkGsaAjD5EALw_wcB">Learn more about Automation Anywhere</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When does your “audience” become a “community?” </p><p>The word “community” might make you think of the relationship you have with your neighbors; a sense of friendliness and having something in common. It’s a word that relates an emotional closeness or bond, even loyalty. We’re talking about how to build that bond with your audience today.</p><p>And who better to talk about it with than Automation Anywhere’s SVP of Community and Learning, Kristen Engelhardt. Together, we’re chatting about driving content to one part of your TAC (and what the heck is TAC anyway?), arranging a forum for deeper audience listening, and starting small. So get ready to upgrade your growth strategy with this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Kristen Engelhardt</strong></p><p>Kristen Engelhardt is SVP of Community and Learning at Automation Anywhere, having joined the company in September, 2021. Prior to her current role, she served as VP of Trailblazer Marketing and Community at Salesforce. She has also worked for companies like PeopleSoft, Cisco and Gartner.</p><p><strong>About Automation Anywhere</strong></p><p>Automation Anywhere is the leader in intelligent automation solutions that put AI to work across every aspect of an organization. The company’s Automation Success Platform is infused with generative AI and offers process discovery, RPA, end-to-end process orchestration, document processing, and analytics, with a security and governance-first approach. Automation Anywhere empowers organizations worldwide to unleash productivity gains, drive innovation, improve customer service and accelerate business growth. The company is guided by its vision to fuel the future of work by unleashing human potential through intelligent automation.</p><p><strong>About Community in Marketing</strong></p><p>The idea of community in marketing suggests that customers are more deeply engaged than just purchasing from a company. These customers are aligned with the company’s brand values, mission and brand promise. They are loyal to the brand, recommend it to friends, family and colleagues, write reviews, post about it on social media, and generally evangelize the brand. Like the Apple community where users offer suggestions and answers to customer questions separately from Apple Customer Support. </p><p><a href="https://www.mightynetworks.com/encyclopedia/community-flywheel#:~:text=A%20community%20flywheel%20is%20a,and%20engagement%2C%20translating%20into%20sales.">What is a community flywheel?</a> It’s a community-centered approach to building a brand, in which your brand joins or creates relevant communities that promote amazing experiences and engagement, translating into sales.</p><p>To use the community flywheel approach to building your business, there are five key techniques:</p><ol><li>Know your communities</li><li>Make your brand story talkable</li><li>Zoom in on hero products</li><li>Fuel the conversation across channels</li><li>Make transactions effortless</li></ol><p>According to <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/growth-marketing-and-sales/our-insights/a-better-way-to-build-a-brand-the-community-flywheel">McKinsey</a>, when you’re successfully leveraging the community flywheel approach…</p><ul><li>More than 75 percent of content about the brand is user generated.</li><li>The influencer engagement rate—that is, the percentage of viewers who go on to like, comment, or share the content—is greater than 2 percent.</li><li>More than 4 percent of online traffic is converted to sales.</li><li>Brand-related posts by either the brand or a consumer go viral at least twice a year (triggered, in some cases, by marketing support).</li></ul><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Automation Anywhere’s Community-Building Strategy:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Focus on driving content to one part of your TAC. </strong>You get better payoff with a focused approach to community-building. Kristen says, “The most successful communities we've seen are when you identify what part of the TAC you need and want to focus on to drive transformation together. It may be we're going to focus, like in Salesforce on the administrator, and we are going to surround them with the input into the product and the career support and the peer ecosystem to make them wildly successful in their role. And we found out by listening, by hearing what they're trying to solve for, that we could advance their careers and their companies through an investment in them. And in return, they share their expertise, they share their content, they speak on stage for us, they tell our brand story through theirs, but they also help us drive the business. And you get that magic flywheel.”</li><li><strong>Arrange a forum for deeper audience listening. </strong>Create a space to talk with customers and ask questions beyond your product. At Automation Anywhere, they created their Pathfinder Workshop, which is now scaled globally and has had a massive payoff. Kristen says, “We have a bright, hard line between that program and our upsell, our pipe gen, and our version of the ACV. And all of that came about the community workshop as our number one go-to-market lever because we took the leap and listened beyond the product: ‘What are you trying to do as an automation leader?’ So I love that example and the team did a phenomenal job listening, building, iterating together.”</li><li><strong>Prioritize the four pillars of community building:</strong> Destination, programs, content, and learning. These depend on how mature your business is. Kristen says, “For an early stage company, don't go out and build a destination right away. Start with the product tour or the dinner series. If you are already mature and you have so many connections and your community, your part of the TAC is saying, ‘Where do I give and get help? Where do I connect with more thought leaders? Where do I get that content?’ That's when you want to invest in the destination. So make sure you're prioritizing your pillars based on where you are and where your community is.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“Community is a category creator and an enabler that allows a company like Salesforce, like Automation Anywhere, to build an ecosystem and a job economy. And whether it's in CRM, or it's in automation, or AI, at the end of the day, community is essentially your constituency of people, regardless of role, region, market, title, that you want to use more of what you have to offer, buy more of it, and tell others to do the same, and that's the magic of community. ” - Kristen Engelhardt</p><p>*“Who you go and talk to and invest in will be different in an early stage than when you are in hyper growth and you are scaling and you want to make sure that you have a nurtured relationship with your most strategic partners and your most strategic customers. It’s a growth spectrum.”  - Kristen Engelhardt</p><p>*”The key is just to know when you're starting out, ‘What problem am I trying to solve, for which stage of growth I'm in, and which sliver, slice, piece of the TAC do I most need to invest in, understand, know, and serve?” - Kristen Engelhardt</p><p>*”You do need to invest in yourself first to create that reach. It's just that the level of investment is much lower. It's very low lift and you can pick and choose some very easy start by starting strategies before you have to go and build a 15 million member trailblazer community to drive the type of impact that McKinsey statistics are sharing.“ - Kristen Engelhardt</p><p>*”There's a push and a pull. So like, your content is supposed to push your community to react and engage and to talk to each other and to spur conversations. Whereas for community, you have to be listening, you have to be responding, you have to be doing those sort of things.  And it's a very different sort of emotion. ” - Ian Faison</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Kristen Engelhardt, SVP of Community & Learning at Automation Anywhere</p><p>[2:55] Learn more about Kristen’s work at Automation Anywhere</p><p>[4:54] Why are we talking about building community?</p><p>[6:17] What is TAC?</p><p>[17:02] Tell me more about building community in marketing</p><p>[30:41] How do you engage with your customers beyond asking about the product?</p><p>[41:40] What is Kristen’s playbook to building community?</p><p>[48:25] What’s the ROI of community?</p><p>[52:01] Who are the critical hires in building community?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://community.automationanywhere.com/guidelines-faqs-85036/welcome-to-the-pathfinder-community-85278">Join the Pathfinder Community</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristenengelhardt/">Connect with Kristen on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.automationanywhere.com/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=evgn-dg-glob-brand-aai-us-skag-en-sem&utm_term=automation%20anywhere&utm_content=https://www.automationanywhere.com/--g--c--15113722721--132024463129--e--kwd-354278112927&gclid=Cj0KCQiA7OqrBhD9ARIsAK3UXh1uofSFAthJTzsp_5OWYXMFGNl8yDdVukbjbMe3FT7VHnbisUddkGsaAjD5EALw_wcB">Learn more about Automation Anywhere</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>If a friend of yours said, “There’s a new show you have to watch about a mid-size paper company in Scranton, Pennsylvania,” would you want to watch it? </p><p>The crazy thing is we’re talking about the most popular sitcom of all time. But it sounds boring as heck. So what makes it so good? The actual content.</p><p><i>The Office </i>was relatable, cringey, absurd, and lucky for us, chock full of B2B marketing lessons. And that’s what we’re talking about today with our guest, VP of Content Marketing at Crayon, Sheila Lahar. Together, we’re chatting about B2B marketing lessons from the U.S. version including holding a writers’ room, recognizing when your marketing playbook is stale, and making every word count. This episode of Remarkable is sure to leave you satisfied and smiling. That’s what she said.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Sheila Lahar</strong></p><p>Sheila Lahar is Senior Director of Content Marketing at Crayon, responsible for making sure that everything they publish is unique, compelling, and valuable. Prior to joining Crayon, she built successful content marketing programs at a number of B2B SaaS companies, including Flatfile, Datto, and Eloqua.</p><p><strong>About Crayon</strong></p><p>Crayon, the leading competitive intelligence platform for mid-market and enterprise businesses, brings a complete, real-time picture of what competitors are up to—delivering valuable insights to key departments in a range of formats that can be easily accessed and acted on. So companies can quickly see and seize opportunities, and build a sustainable business advantage.</p><p><strong>About </strong><i><strong>The Office</strong></i></p><p>The Office is an Emmy Award-winning mockumentary about the employees of a paper company called Dunder Mifflin in Scranton, Pennsylvania. It was originally a U.K. series created by British comedian Ricky Gervais and Stephen Merchant. But we’re covering the U.S. version, which was adapted from the original by SNL writer Greg Daniels. It was co-produced by Deedle-Dee Productions and Reveille Productions in association with Universal Television. Members of the original cast included Steve Carrell as the Scranton regional branch manager, Michael Scott. Assistant to the regional branch manager, Dwight Schrute, is played by Rainn Wilson. John Krasinski is Jim Halpert, Jenna Fisher is secretary Pam Beasley, and B.J. Novak is the temp, Ryan Howard. The 9 seasons aired from 2005 to 2013.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>The Office</strong></i><strong>: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Hold a writers’ room. </strong>Brainstorm ideas with your colleagues. Sheila says, “This works really well in person. One person will have an idea that’s funny. And then you just build off that. By the end of it, you're suggesting the craziest, wackiest things, which seem like <i>The Office</i> in some of the scenarios and situations. I've seen that play out in B2B marketing when you just get a creative group together and you're kind of like, ‘All right, this is what we've got, but what can we do here to make it funny or more appealing?” It’s how you elevate your product or service with great content. </li><li><strong>Recognize when your marketing playbook is stale.</strong> And pivot fast to give your audience something new and better than the last. Sheila says <i>The Office </i>just wasn’t the same once Steve Carrell left, that it felt like the show ran out of funny ideas. She says it would have been better to pivot to a spinoff after five seasons to give their audience something new. So when it comes to marketing, it’s important to always think critically about your content strategy. To ask “Is my content stale?” And move on. Sheila says, “It's like we've got these playbooks that we've developed and we just go to the same thing. And we're all doing the same thing just because it worked.” Go on to experiment and find new things that work better than the last.</li><li><strong>Make every word count.</strong> When you’re writing ad copy with a 1,000 character limit, each word has to pack a punch. Sheila says, “It has to be so impactful or funny or something. You have to get that emotion. I think back to the writers for <i>The Office</i>. They were so good at writing one-liners, whether it was for Creed or Ryan.” So think about the impact of every word when writing your next copy.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”For so much of the stuff that's out there, whether it’s billboard ads or other types of ads, there's just such a lack of enthusiasm to be bold, to say something funny or interesting. Let's get back to the Creed joke where he's like, ‘I sprout mung beans on a damp paper towel in my desk drawer. Very nutritious but they smell like death.’ It’s that absurdity that makes his character so freaking hysterical. And that absurdity is also the stuff that stands out in your mind.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”We're in this noisy world where everyone's just scrolling really fast. You’ve got less than a second, you just have no time. The bold and the funny and anything that stands out, that's your chance. That's your only chance to get noticed.” - Sheila Lahar</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Sheila Lahar, VP of Content Marketing at Crayon</p><p>[2:02] Why are we talking about <i>The Office?</i></p><p>[4:15] What is <i>The Office</i> about?</p><p>[7:34] Why is <i>The Office </i>remarkable?</p><p>[14:12] What are some marketing lessons we can take from <i>The Office?</i></p><p>[28:28] What’s Sheila’s content strategy at Crayon?</p><p>[30:38] How does Sheila prove the ROI of content?</p><p>[34:55] What are some initiatives Sheila is working on for the future?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.76a9f75d-c7e8-e3b2-5f66-64dbd86b1155?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch <i>The Office</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sheila-lahar-6317b24/">Connect with Sheila on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.crayon.com/ourservices/innovate--accelerate/ai-solutions-services/">Learn more about Crayon</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2023 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Ian Faison, Sheila Lahar, Meredith Gooderham, Jess Avellino, Scott Goodrich)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a friend of yours said, “There’s a new show you have to watch about a mid-size paper company in Scranton, Pennsylvania,” would you want to watch it? </p><p>The crazy thing is we’re talking about the most popular sitcom of all time. But it sounds boring as heck. So what makes it so good? The actual content.</p><p><i>The Office </i>was relatable, cringey, absurd, and lucky for us, chock full of B2B marketing lessons. And that’s what we’re talking about today with our guest, VP of Content Marketing at Crayon, Sheila Lahar. Together, we’re chatting about B2B marketing lessons from the U.S. version including holding a writers’ room, recognizing when your marketing playbook is stale, and making every word count. This episode of Remarkable is sure to leave you satisfied and smiling. That’s what she said.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Sheila Lahar</strong></p><p>Sheila Lahar is Senior Director of Content Marketing at Crayon, responsible for making sure that everything they publish is unique, compelling, and valuable. Prior to joining Crayon, she built successful content marketing programs at a number of B2B SaaS companies, including Flatfile, Datto, and Eloqua.</p><p><strong>About Crayon</strong></p><p>Crayon, the leading competitive intelligence platform for mid-market and enterprise businesses, brings a complete, real-time picture of what competitors are up to—delivering valuable insights to key departments in a range of formats that can be easily accessed and acted on. So companies can quickly see and seize opportunities, and build a sustainable business advantage.</p><p><strong>About </strong><i><strong>The Office</strong></i></p><p>The Office is an Emmy Award-winning mockumentary about the employees of a paper company called Dunder Mifflin in Scranton, Pennsylvania. It was originally a U.K. series created by British comedian Ricky Gervais and Stephen Merchant. But we’re covering the U.S. version, which was adapted from the original by SNL writer Greg Daniels. It was co-produced by Deedle-Dee Productions and Reveille Productions in association with Universal Television. Members of the original cast included Steve Carrell as the Scranton regional branch manager, Michael Scott. Assistant to the regional branch manager, Dwight Schrute, is played by Rainn Wilson. John Krasinski is Jim Halpert, Jenna Fisher is secretary Pam Beasley, and B.J. Novak is the temp, Ryan Howard. The 9 seasons aired from 2005 to 2013.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>The Office</strong></i><strong>: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Hold a writers’ room. </strong>Brainstorm ideas with your colleagues. Sheila says, “This works really well in person. One person will have an idea that’s funny. And then you just build off that. By the end of it, you're suggesting the craziest, wackiest things, which seem like <i>The Office</i> in some of the scenarios and situations. I've seen that play out in B2B marketing when you just get a creative group together and you're kind of like, ‘All right, this is what we've got, but what can we do here to make it funny or more appealing?” It’s how you elevate your product or service with great content. </li><li><strong>Recognize when your marketing playbook is stale.</strong> And pivot fast to give your audience something new and better than the last. Sheila says <i>The Office </i>just wasn’t the same once Steve Carrell left, that it felt like the show ran out of funny ideas. She says it would have been better to pivot to a spinoff after five seasons to give their audience something new. So when it comes to marketing, it’s important to always think critically about your content strategy. To ask “Is my content stale?” And move on. Sheila says, “It's like we've got these playbooks that we've developed and we just go to the same thing. And we're all doing the same thing just because it worked.” Go on to experiment and find new things that work better than the last.</li><li><strong>Make every word count.</strong> When you’re writing ad copy with a 1,000 character limit, each word has to pack a punch. Sheila says, “It has to be so impactful or funny or something. You have to get that emotion. I think back to the writers for <i>The Office</i>. They were so good at writing one-liners, whether it was for Creed or Ryan.” So think about the impact of every word when writing your next copy.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”For so much of the stuff that's out there, whether it’s billboard ads or other types of ads, there's just such a lack of enthusiasm to be bold, to say something funny or interesting. Let's get back to the Creed joke where he's like, ‘I sprout mung beans on a damp paper towel in my desk drawer. Very nutritious but they smell like death.’ It’s that absurdity that makes his character so freaking hysterical. And that absurdity is also the stuff that stands out in your mind.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”We're in this noisy world where everyone's just scrolling really fast. You’ve got less than a second, you just have no time. The bold and the funny and anything that stands out, that's your chance. That's your only chance to get noticed.” - Sheila Lahar</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Sheila Lahar, VP of Content Marketing at Crayon</p><p>[2:02] Why are we talking about <i>The Office?</i></p><p>[4:15] What is <i>The Office</i> about?</p><p>[7:34] Why is <i>The Office </i>remarkable?</p><p>[14:12] What are some marketing lessons we can take from <i>The Office?</i></p><p>[28:28] What’s Sheila’s content strategy at Crayon?</p><p>[30:38] How does Sheila prove the ROI of content?</p><p>[34:55] What are some initiatives Sheila is working on for the future?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.76a9f75d-c7e8-e3b2-5f66-64dbd86b1155?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch <i>The Office</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sheila-lahar-6317b24/">Connect with Sheila on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.crayon.com/ourservices/innovate--accelerate/ai-solutions-services/">Learn more about Crayon</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>The Devil Wears Prada: B2B Marketing Lessons from the Iconic Movie with Director of Corporate Communications, Brand and Strategic Content at Edgio, Sally Winship Comollo</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>You may be sitting at your computer in sweats right now. But it doesn’t mean B2B marketers like yourself aren’t fashion conscious. There’s actually a lot the fashion industry can teach us about marketing.</p><p>You were likely marketed those sweatpants. So think about what made you want them. Why did you buy from that particular company? And what was the deciding factor that made you purchase them?</p><p>It’s likely the company understood their industry, personalized their message, and created original content. Those are a few of the things we’re talking about today with Edgio’s Director of Corporate Communications, Brand and Strategic Content, Sally Winship Comollo. Together, we’re looking at B2B marketing lessons from <i>The Devil Wears Prada</i>. So put on your Chanel boots (they’ll go great with your sweats) for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Sally Winship Comollo</strong></p><p>Sally Winship Comollo is Director of Corporate Communications at Edgio. There, she leads the development and execution of strategic content and communications programs that drive awareness for the company's innovative edge platform. Previously, she led content and communications at Equinix. She has over 15 years of experience in marketing communications, content marketing, PR, and events, spanning various industries and sectors, from consumer electronics to cloud computing to legal services.</p><p>Her core competencies include branding and positioning, content creation and distribution, experiential marketing and events, media and analyst relations, internal and employee communications, and social media. </p><p><strong>About Edgio</strong></p><p>Edgio is a globally scaled edge-enabled software solutions provider that helps companies deliver extraordinary digital experiences — faster websites, more responsive applications, the highest quality streaming, and more consistent game and software downloads, to any device.</p><p><strong>About </strong><i><strong>The Devil Wears Prada</strong></i></p><p><i>The Devil Wears Prada</i> is about new college grad Andy Sachs who lands a job at a prestigious fashion magazine in New York City, working as an assistant to the editor. It stars Anne Hathaway as Andrea “Andy” Sachs, Meryl Streep as the editor, Miranda Priestly, Stanley Tucci as art director Nigel Kipling, and Emily Blunt as Miranda’s other assistant. The movie came out in 2006 and is based on the book by Lauren Weisberger. It was directed by David Frankel and produced by Wendy Finerman. The screenplay was written by Aline Brosh McKenna. The book was inspired by Lauren Weisberger’s experience as an assistant to Vogue editor Anna Wintour.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>The Devil Wears Prada</strong></i><strong>: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Know and understand your industry.</strong> As Andy is just learning about the fashion industry, she makes an offhand comment about clothing being “stuff.” Miranda Priestly is quick to remind Andy that she is, in fact, the target audience for that “stuff.” Miranda points out that Andy is wearing a cerulean sweater, a color blue made popular by the fashion industry. So knowing your industry means being able to make the discerning and nuanced choices that will speak more effectively to your target audience. So your message resonates with them above all others. You’ll even be so effective, your audience won’t even know they’re being influenced by your “stuff.”</li><li><strong>Personalize your message.</strong> Andy memorizes the guest list for the Met Gala so she can be Miranda’s reference when meeting them. So Miranda was able to personalize her greeting for each person. This small but critical tip is something we can apply to marketing. Sally says, “How do you personalize your message for your different customer segments or your different stakeholders?” You want each customer or each stakeholder to feel important and like they matter to your business. Personalization is a simple yet effective way to do that.</li><li><strong>Be agile.</strong> As Miranda says, “By all means, move at a glacial pace. You know how that thrills me.” Marketers have to be moving quickly and working to stay ahead of the every-changing industry landscape. Ian says, “Just pacing in general is really important. How quickly you're doing sprints or project delivery, whether or not something is good enough to go out, versus how long you spend on it. Like that, to me, is the hardest part of marketing, is ‘How much time do you spend on the thing?’”</li><li><strong>Create original content.</strong> In other words, don’t recommend florals for your spring line of clothing. As Miranda says, “Florals? For spring? Groundbreaking.” It cuts to the core. Sally says when it comes to B2B marketing, “How do you break away from things that may seem easy? Like, ‘Oh, everybody's doing video now, so let's do video’. Well, video might not work for your audience, or how do you make videos, but better?” So don’t follow the crowd, but fashion your own content.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Our sales team is going through a very similar transition from just selling solutions or selling the product to value-based solution selling and transparent selling. So being honest about what we can do for them and what we can't do for them. Because that creates that trusted advisor type of role. Our marketing is mimicking that. So not just creating content that shows the value that we bring to the customer, but then also creating content that's valuable to the potential customer.” - Sally Winship Comollo</p><p>*”Ultimately, the intangible ways of tracking ROI are also important. With analyst relations, when you get to the point where analysts come to you and say, ‘Hey, we've got a report coming out on edge platforms and we want you to be in it,’ Then that to me shows that what we're doing is working.” - Sally Winship Comollo</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Sally Winship Comollo, Director of Corporate Communications, Brand and Strategic Content at Edgio</p><p>[1:48] Why are we talking about <i>The Devil Wears Prada</i>?</p><p>[2:48] What does Sally do at Edgio?</p><p>[3:31] What’s <i>The Devil Wears Prada</i> about?</p><p>[6:59] Why is <i>The Devil Wears Prada</i> remarkable?</p><p>[13:52] What can Miranda Priestly teach us about leadership?</p><p>[19:19] What B2B marketing lessons can we take away from <i>The Devil Wears Prada</i>?</p><p>[23:18] What’s Sally’s content strategy at Edgio?</p><p>[28:49] How does Sally prove the ROI of content?</p><p>[33:49] What advice would Sally give others in content marketing?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Devil-Wears-Prada-Meryl-Streep/dp/B000LX00RY">Watch <i>The Devil Wears Prada</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sally-winship-comollo-56b1614/">Connect with Sally on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://llw-limelight-website-wordpress-prod.layer0-limelight.link/">Learn more about Edgio</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2023 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Sally Comollo, Meredith Gooderham, Scott Goodrich, Ian Faison)</author>
      <link>https://www.caspianstudios.com/remarkable</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may be sitting at your computer in sweats right now. But it doesn’t mean B2B marketers like yourself aren’t fashion conscious. There’s actually a lot the fashion industry can teach us about marketing.</p><p>You were likely marketed those sweatpants. So think about what made you want them. Why did you buy from that particular company? And what was the deciding factor that made you purchase them?</p><p>It’s likely the company understood their industry, personalized their message, and created original content. Those are a few of the things we’re talking about today with Edgio’s Director of Corporate Communications, Brand and Strategic Content, Sally Winship Comollo. Together, we’re looking at B2B marketing lessons from <i>The Devil Wears Prada</i>. So put on your Chanel boots (they’ll go great with your sweats) for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Sally Winship Comollo</strong></p><p>Sally Winship Comollo is Director of Corporate Communications at Edgio. There, she leads the development and execution of strategic content and communications programs that drive awareness for the company's innovative edge platform. Previously, she led content and communications at Equinix. She has over 15 years of experience in marketing communications, content marketing, PR, and events, spanning various industries and sectors, from consumer electronics to cloud computing to legal services.</p><p>Her core competencies include branding and positioning, content creation and distribution, experiential marketing and events, media and analyst relations, internal and employee communications, and social media. </p><p><strong>About Edgio</strong></p><p>Edgio is a globally scaled edge-enabled software solutions provider that helps companies deliver extraordinary digital experiences — faster websites, more responsive applications, the highest quality streaming, and more consistent game and software downloads, to any device.</p><p><strong>About </strong><i><strong>The Devil Wears Prada</strong></i></p><p><i>The Devil Wears Prada</i> is about new college grad Andy Sachs who lands a job at a prestigious fashion magazine in New York City, working as an assistant to the editor. It stars Anne Hathaway as Andrea “Andy” Sachs, Meryl Streep as the editor, Miranda Priestly, Stanley Tucci as art director Nigel Kipling, and Emily Blunt as Miranda’s other assistant. The movie came out in 2006 and is based on the book by Lauren Weisberger. It was directed by David Frankel and produced by Wendy Finerman. The screenplay was written by Aline Brosh McKenna. The book was inspired by Lauren Weisberger’s experience as an assistant to Vogue editor Anna Wintour.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>The Devil Wears Prada</strong></i><strong>: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Know and understand your industry.</strong> As Andy is just learning about the fashion industry, she makes an offhand comment about clothing being “stuff.” Miranda Priestly is quick to remind Andy that she is, in fact, the target audience for that “stuff.” Miranda points out that Andy is wearing a cerulean sweater, a color blue made popular by the fashion industry. So knowing your industry means being able to make the discerning and nuanced choices that will speak more effectively to your target audience. So your message resonates with them above all others. You’ll even be so effective, your audience won’t even know they’re being influenced by your “stuff.”</li><li><strong>Personalize your message.</strong> Andy memorizes the guest list for the Met Gala so she can be Miranda’s reference when meeting them. So Miranda was able to personalize her greeting for each person. This small but critical tip is something we can apply to marketing. Sally says, “How do you personalize your message for your different customer segments or your different stakeholders?” You want each customer or each stakeholder to feel important and like they matter to your business. Personalization is a simple yet effective way to do that.</li><li><strong>Be agile.</strong> As Miranda says, “By all means, move at a glacial pace. You know how that thrills me.” Marketers have to be moving quickly and working to stay ahead of the every-changing industry landscape. Ian says, “Just pacing in general is really important. How quickly you're doing sprints or project delivery, whether or not something is good enough to go out, versus how long you spend on it. Like that, to me, is the hardest part of marketing, is ‘How much time do you spend on the thing?’”</li><li><strong>Create original content.</strong> In other words, don’t recommend florals for your spring line of clothing. As Miranda says, “Florals? For spring? Groundbreaking.” It cuts to the core. Sally says when it comes to B2B marketing, “How do you break away from things that may seem easy? Like, ‘Oh, everybody's doing video now, so let's do video’. Well, video might not work for your audience, or how do you make videos, but better?” So don’t follow the crowd, but fashion your own content.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Our sales team is going through a very similar transition from just selling solutions or selling the product to value-based solution selling and transparent selling. So being honest about what we can do for them and what we can't do for them. Because that creates that trusted advisor type of role. Our marketing is mimicking that. So not just creating content that shows the value that we bring to the customer, but then also creating content that's valuable to the potential customer.” - Sally Winship Comollo</p><p>*”Ultimately, the intangible ways of tracking ROI are also important. With analyst relations, when you get to the point where analysts come to you and say, ‘Hey, we've got a report coming out on edge platforms and we want you to be in it,’ Then that to me shows that what we're doing is working.” - Sally Winship Comollo</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Sally Winship Comollo, Director of Corporate Communications, Brand and Strategic Content at Edgio</p><p>[1:48] Why are we talking about <i>The Devil Wears Prada</i>?</p><p>[2:48] What does Sally do at Edgio?</p><p>[3:31] What’s <i>The Devil Wears Prada</i> about?</p><p>[6:59] Why is <i>The Devil Wears Prada</i> remarkable?</p><p>[13:52] What can Miranda Priestly teach us about leadership?</p><p>[19:19] What B2B marketing lessons can we take away from <i>The Devil Wears Prada</i>?</p><p>[23:18] What’s Sally’s content strategy at Edgio?</p><p>[28:49] How does Sally prove the ROI of content?</p><p>[33:49] What advice would Sally give others in content marketing?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Devil-Wears-Prada-Meryl-Streep/dp/B000LX00RY">Watch <i>The Devil Wears Prada</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sally-winship-comollo-56b1614/">Connect with Sally on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://llw-limelight-website-wordpress-prod.layer0-limelight.link/">Learn more about Edgio</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Changing your content strategy is - in business speak - “scary.” The market is ever shifting and it’s hard to know what platforms to be on, whether to make static images, videos, audio, or blog posts. What do you invest in? Don’t worry, we have answers for you. </p><p>We’re giving you steps to shift your content strategy in a way that is grounded in research so you can build brand awareness, drive demand, and still sleep at night. </p><p>In this episode, we’re learning from a company that’s already well into their content strategy transformation - HubSpot. Kyle Denhoff, Director of Marketing at HubSpot, is sharing with us how to use market research to drive demand, how to experiment to see what’s working, and about all the nuances to building a portfolio that gets people to your website and across the finish line. So get ready to dip your toe into new content in this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Kyle Denhoff</strong></p><p>Kyle Denhoff is Director of Marketing at HubSpot. He joined the company in January 2019 as Group Manager of Marketing (Acquisition). Before he became a Marketing Strategist, Kyle played 7 years of professional lacrosse. He has also served as Director of Digital Marketing and Communications at Fresenius Medical Care North America, and held other marketing roles at Xerox and Haley Marketing Group.</p><p><strong>About HubSpot</strong></p><p>HubSpot is an innovative cloud-based CRM platform designed to help align sales and marketing teams, foster sales enablement, boost ROI and optimize your inbound marketing strategy to generate more qualified leads. HubSpot has over 184,000 customers in more than 120 countries around the world. </p><p><strong>About the benefits of putting content on YouTube</strong></p><p><a href="https://consultusdigital.com/blog/benefits-of-youtube-for-business/#:~:text=YouTube%20for%20business%20offers%20brands,better%20platform%20for%20video%20marketing.">Next to Google</a>, it's the second largest search engine—and the number one for video.</p><p><a href="https://www.demandsage.com/youtube-stats/#:~:text=YouTube%20has%20more%20than%202.70,via%20its%20Website%20and%20Apps.">YouTube</a> has more than 2.70 billion active users as of 2023. Youtube Premium has 80 million active users worldwide in 2023. 52% of internet users access YouTube at least once a month. 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And so we want to make sure that we are there and meeting our audience and providing them value.” Instead of relying on traditional marketing like buying ads, make a strategic investment in building channels and content that supports your audience’s media appetite to drive demand more effectively.</li><li><strong>Run experiments to see what’s working. </strong>You don’t have to go all in on a marketing strategy. Instead take a tactical approach and experiment on a new channel. Kyle says HubSpot started their shift to YouTube by investing some in video production and seeing if they can convert viewership into demand for the business. So they ran conversion rate optimization experiments, and he said, “We inched into it. We did that for a month or two, and then we built a big enough data set where we said, ‘We really think this can be a meaningful channel for the business and that's when we can build that business case to invest all in on YouTube and build out that network.” What they’ve found is not only does YouTube build brand awareness, but that they’ve figured out how to get people from YouTube over to the HubSpot website. </li><li><strong>Cultivate a portfolio of talent.</strong> We hear again and again on Remarkable that humans buy from humans. So enlist trusted people within your company as well as external creators as brand ambassadors. Kyle says, “There are personality driven brands and institutional brands. We’re all going to end up in a house of personal brands. There's going to be people within your organization or that you build partnerships with that are trusted sources of information. And they're going to be on camera. They're going to be on mic. 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For podcasts, they look at reach or listenership. And they’re able to use these metrics to decide where to invest in more content.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“The framework we go through is, What's the objective? Who's our audience? What channels are we going to use to reach that audience? And then what content can we make for them?’” - Kyle Denhoff</p><p>*“You could have a podcast, turn it into a video podcast, put it on YouTube, and the audiences are very different. So even though you've built a show for a given persona, the people who listen to podcasts in the car or at the gym are very different than people who are on YouTube and browsing on their laptop or on their phone.”  - Kyle Denhoff</p><p>*”Most brands need a mix. Like, I'm going to invest in these core media properties for the audiences I know I'm going to want to reach long term. And then if there are these brand building or spike plays where we want to reach a target audience during a given set period of time, let's talk about advertising.” - Kyle Denhoff</p><p>*”You don't necessarily need a ton of money. Get something out there, get the data points, build the case. And then go back to your business leaders and say, ‘I believe that if we continue investing in this podcast or in this YouTube channel, we can hit these business goals and here's the budget I'll need.’“ - Kyle Denhoff</p><p>*”Going in cold is the mistake I've seen from a lot of folks, which is I have this big vision, I have this big budget ask, and then it doesn't happen. And then you're like, ‘Oh man, I'm kind of defeated.’ Just start. I mean, you can go to Best Buy and get a Logic cam and a Blue Yeti microphone, and you can deliver value to your audience right away. And you'd be surprised at how many people are going to watch that video and then ultimately take an action.” - Kyle Denhoff</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Kyle Denhoff, Director of Marketing at HubSpot</p><p>[1:30] Learn more about HubSpot’s content network</p><p>[3:25] How is the market shifting?</p><p>[5:52] What is HubSpot’s content strategy?</p><p>[8:00] What are the benefits of putting content on YouTube?</p><p>[9:58] How does HubSpot experiment with putting content on a new platform?</p><p>[11:33] How does Kyle’s team decide what kinds of videos to make?</p><p>[15:10] Why are personality-driven brands more effective than institutional brands?</p><p>[17:56] How do you build a network of creators?</p><p>[28:02] How does HubSpot appeal to different target personas?</p><p>[30:32] How does HubSpot track what’s working and what’s not?</p><p>[33:15] How does HubSpot know when to increase or decrease their investment in a particular channel?</p><p>[34:47] How does Kyle prove the ROI of content?</p><p>[36:52] The importance of creating evergreen content</p><p>[38:39] Do you need a big budget to make effective content?</p><p>[46:56] What’s next for HubSpot?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@HubSpot-CRM">Check out HubSpot’s YouTube channel</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kyledenhoff/">Connect with Kyle on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.hubspot.com/">Learn more about HubSpot</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. 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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Changing your content strategy is - in business speak - “scary.” The market is ever shifting and it’s hard to know what platforms to be on, whether to make static images, videos, audio, or blog posts. What do you invest in? Don’t worry, we have answers for you. </p><p>We’re giving you steps to shift your content strategy in a way that is grounded in research so you can build brand awareness, drive demand, and still sleep at night. </p><p>In this episode, we’re learning from a company that’s already well into their content strategy transformation - HubSpot. Kyle Denhoff, Director of Marketing at HubSpot, is sharing with us how to use market research to drive demand, how to experiment to see what’s working, and about all the nuances to building a portfolio that gets people to your website and across the finish line. 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And so we want to make sure that we are there and meeting our audience and providing them value.” Instead of relying on traditional marketing like buying ads, make a strategic investment in building channels and content that supports your audience’s media appetite to drive demand more effectively.</li><li><strong>Run experiments to see what’s working. </strong>You don’t have to go all in on a marketing strategy. Instead take a tactical approach and experiment on a new channel. Kyle says HubSpot started their shift to YouTube by investing some in video production and seeing if they can convert viewership into demand for the business. So they ran conversion rate optimization experiments, and he said, “We inched into it. We did that for a month or two, and then we built a big enough data set where we said, ‘We really think this can be a meaningful channel for the business and that's when we can build that business case to invest all in on YouTube and build out that network.” What they’ve found is not only does YouTube build brand awareness, but that they’ve figured out how to get people from YouTube over to the HubSpot website. </li><li><strong>Cultivate a portfolio of talent.</strong> We hear again and again on Remarkable that humans buy from humans. So enlist trusted people within your company as well as external creators as brand ambassadors. Kyle says, “There are personality driven brands and institutional brands. We’re all going to end up in a house of personal brands. There's going to be people within your organization or that you build partnerships with that are trusted sources of information. And they're going to be on camera. They're going to be on mic. 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For podcasts, they look at reach or listenership. And they’re able to use these metrics to decide where to invest in more content.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“The framework we go through is, What's the objective? Who's our audience? What channels are we going to use to reach that audience? And then what content can we make for them?’” - Kyle Denhoff</p><p>*“You could have a podcast, turn it into a video podcast, put it on YouTube, and the audiences are very different. So even though you've built a show for a given persona, the people who listen to podcasts in the car or at the gym are very different than people who are on YouTube and browsing on their laptop or on their phone.”  - Kyle Denhoff</p><p>*”Most brands need a mix. Like, I'm going to invest in these core media properties for the audiences I know I'm going to want to reach long term. 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And you'd be surprised at how many people are going to watch that video and then ultimately take an action.” - Kyle Denhoff</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Kyle Denhoff, Director of Marketing at HubSpot</p><p>[1:30] Learn more about HubSpot’s content network</p><p>[3:25] How is the market shifting?</p><p>[5:52] What is HubSpot’s content strategy?</p><p>[8:00] What are the benefits of putting content on YouTube?</p><p>[9:58] How does HubSpot experiment with putting content on a new platform?</p><p>[11:33] How does Kyle’s team decide what kinds of videos to make?</p><p>[15:10] Why are personality-driven brands more effective than institutional brands?</p><p>[17:56] How do you build a network of creators?</p><p>[28:02] How does HubSpot appeal to different target personas?</p><p>[30:32] How does HubSpot track what’s working and what’s not?</p><p>[33:15] How does HubSpot know when to increase or decrease their investment in a particular channel?</p><p>[34:47] How does Kyle prove the ROI of content?</p><p>[36:52] The importance of creating evergreen content</p><p>[38:39] Do you need a big budget to make effective content?</p><p>[46:56] What’s next for HubSpot?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@HubSpot-CRM">Check out HubSpot’s YouTube channel</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kyledenhoff/">Connect with Kyle on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.hubspot.com/">Learn more about HubSpot</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. 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We’re giving you steps to shift your content strategy in a way that is grounded in research so you can build brand awareness, drive demand, and still sleep at night. 

In this episode, we’re learning from a company that’s already well into their content strategy transformation - HubSpot. Kyle Denhoff, Director of Marketing at HubSpot, is sharing with us how to use market research to drive demand, how to experiment to see what’s working, and about all the nuances to building a portfolio that gets people to your website and across the finish line. So get ready to dip your toe into new content in this episode of Remarkable.</itunes:summary>
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We’re giving you steps to shift your content strategy in a way that is grounded in research so you can build brand awareness, drive demand, and still sleep at night. 

In this episode, we’re learning from a company that’s already well into their content strategy transformation - HubSpot. Kyle Denhoff, Director of Marketing at HubSpot, is sharing with us how to use market research to drive demand, how to experiment to see what’s working, and about all the nuances to building a portfolio that gets people to your website and across the finish line. So get ready to dip your toe into new content in this episode of Remarkable.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Your audience is like a fickle love interest. We’re going to show you how to romance them.</p><p>That’s to say that your audience could be at any place in their buyer’s journey. So it’s important to meet them wherever they are and woo the heck out of them.</p><p>So in this episode, we’re going straight to the heart of the matter by talking about B2B marketing lessons from </p><p><i>500 Days of Summer </i></p><p>with the help of our guest, April Weber. April leads integrated marketing at Infobip. Together, we’re talking about how to meet the customer wherever they’re at in the non-linear buyer’s journey, the importance of presenting your products honestly, and incorporating real stories in your marketing. So brace your tender heart for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, April Weber</strong></p><p>April Weber is Director of Integrated Marketing at Infobip, having joined the company in 2022 as CX Expert. Prior to joining Infobip, April served as Director of New Demand Solutions at INFUSEmedia. She has also held marketing and demand roles at companies like QuinStreet and HID Global.</p><p><strong>About Infobip</strong></p><p>Infobip is a global leader in omnichannel engagement powering a broad range of messaging channels, tools and solutions for advanced customer engagement, authentication and security. They help their clients and partners overcome the complexity of consumer communications, grow their business and enhance the customer experience – all in a fast, secure and reliable way. Over the last 15 years, they’ve grown into an Engineering Powerhouse with 70+ offices in 6 continents and over 3,700 experts, aiming to change how the world communicates.</p><p><strong>About </strong><i><strong>500 Days of Summer</strong></i></p><p><i>500 Days of Summer</i> is a love story about a relationship that lasted 500 days with a girl named Summer. And the story plays out in flashbacks to memories of the relationship. The main character, Tom, meets Summer after she becomes the new hire at his job, a paper greeting card company. They start seeing each other, but Summer says she doesn’t believe in love and so it’s casual even though Tom wants more than that. They end up arguing and breaking up and Summer quits her job at their company. The next time they see each other, Tom notices an engagement ring, which raises all the questions about why she wouldn’t want to settle down with him, but felt true love with someone else. When Tom does meet someone new, he finds out her name is Autumn.</p><p>The movie came out in 2009 and stars Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Tom and Zooey Deschanel as Summer. It was directed by Marc Webb from a screenplay written by Scott Neustadter and Michael H. Weber, and produced by Mark Waters. It’s an indie movie that premiered at Sundance, and was picked up by Fox Searchlight Pictures. It’s generally considered a sleeper hit, and brought in $60 million worldwide. It had had a $7.5 million budget.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>500 Days of Summer</strong></i><strong>: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>The buying journey is often non-linear, so meet the customer where they are.</strong> Ian says, “People want that extremely organized fashion, and other people don’t. You as the marketer need to plan those different pathways and journeys, and to be able to tell stories in the moments that matter.” It’s like how in <i>500 Days of Summer</i>, the story is told in flashbacks to Tom and Summer’s relationship. In the beginning, the viewer needs to see the positive parts of their relationship to understand Tom’s attachment to the relationship. And then as the story goes along, we see the disconnects and the miscommunications, the more negative parts of the relationship. That’s how the viewer understands that Tom is falling out of love with Summer and healing from the breakup. So as the marketer, you need to highlight the moments that matter for your customers and meet them where they are in their buying journey.</li><li><strong>Present your products honestly and transparently.</strong> Over-hyping your products in marketing is misleading, and ultimately leads to disappointment where customers aren’t likely to return. April ties this back to 500 Days of Summer when she says, “Tom idealized his relationship with Summer. We fall into that trap when we're over-hyping our products or solutions to potential clients, when honesty and transparency are crucial in building trust.” So though it’s tempting to play up your products to get higher engagement and sales, don’t do it. Present their real benefits and you’ll earn audience trust. </li><li><strong>Incorporate real stories. </strong><i>500 Days of Summer </i>was inspired by a real relationship screenplay writer Scott Neustadter was in while studying in London. April says that “because it was a real story, it was relatable to me. We should be doing the same thing. We should be doing this with our clients, with our content. It adds a human touch. It resonates deeply, I think, when you can actually incorporate real stories behind it.” So add that human touch to your marketing by including real stories in it. It makes your content more relatable and more human.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”We should always focus on emotional connections and relatable storytelling, whether that's B2B content or B2C content. To make an emotional connection with your audience no matter who they are.” - April Weber</p><p>*“<i>500 Days of Summer </i>made us laugh. It made us feel sad. And it definitely makes you reminisce about your own experience, which is a great way to have any kind of content. If you can get in all the emotions at once, that's awesome.” - April Weber</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet April Weber, Integrated Marketing Manager at Infobip </p><p>[1:40] Why are we talking about <i>500 Days of Summer</i>?</p><p>[4:13] What is April responsible for at Infobip? </p><p>[5:14] What is <i>500 Days of Summer </i>about? </p><p>[10:32] Why is <i>500 Days of Summer </i>remarkable?</p><p>[12:28] What marketing lessons can we glean from <i>500 Days of Summer</i>?</p><p>[32:58] What’s April’s content strategy at Infobip? </p><p>[38:44] How does April think about the ROI of content?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.5e5885d0-1ed5-4b3a-b30d-4f4c6c93cf04?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch 500 Days of Summer</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/weberapril/">Connect with April on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.infobip.com/">Learn more about Infobip</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your audience is like a fickle love interest. We’re going to show you how to romance them.</p><p>That’s to say that your audience could be at any place in their buyer’s journey. So it’s important to meet them wherever they are and woo the heck out of them.</p><p>So in this episode, we’re going straight to the heart of the matter by talking about B2B marketing lessons from </p><p><i>500 Days of Summer </i></p><p>with the help of our guest, April Weber. April leads integrated marketing at Infobip. Together, we’re talking about how to meet the customer wherever they’re at in the non-linear buyer’s journey, the importance of presenting your products honestly, and incorporating real stories in your marketing. So brace your tender heart for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, April Weber</strong></p><p>April Weber is Director of Integrated Marketing at Infobip, having joined the company in 2022 as CX Expert. 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And the story plays out in flashbacks to memories of the relationship. The main character, Tom, meets Summer after she becomes the new hire at his job, a paper greeting card company. They start seeing each other, but Summer says she doesn’t believe in love and so it’s casual even though Tom wants more than that. They end up arguing and breaking up and Summer quits her job at their company. The next time they see each other, Tom notices an engagement ring, which raises all the questions about why she wouldn’t want to settle down with him, but felt true love with someone else. When Tom does meet someone new, he finds out her name is Autumn.</p><p>The movie came out in 2009 and stars Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Tom and Zooey Deschanel as Summer. It was directed by Marc Webb from a screenplay written by Scott Neustadter and Michael H. Weber, and produced by Mark Waters. It’s an indie movie that premiered at Sundance, and was picked up by Fox Searchlight Pictures. 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That’s how the viewer understands that Tom is falling out of love with Summer and healing from the breakup. So as the marketer, you need to highlight the moments that matter for your customers and meet them where they are in their buying journey.</li><li><strong>Present your products honestly and transparently.</strong> Over-hyping your products in marketing is misleading, and ultimately leads to disappointment where customers aren’t likely to return. April ties this back to 500 Days of Summer when she says, “Tom idealized his relationship with Summer. We fall into that trap when we're over-hyping our products or solutions to potential clients, when honesty and transparency are crucial in building trust.” So though it’s tempting to play up your products to get higher engagement and sales, don’t do it. Present their real benefits and you’ll earn audience trust. </li><li><strong>Incorporate real stories. </strong><i>500 Days of Summer </i>was inspired by a real relationship screenplay writer Scott Neustadter was in while studying in London. April says that “because it was a real story, it was relatable to me. We should be doing the same thing. We should be doing this with our clients, with our content. It adds a human touch. It resonates deeply, I think, when you can actually incorporate real stories behind it.” So add that human touch to your marketing by including real stories in it. It makes your content more relatable and more human.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”We should always focus on emotional connections and relatable storytelling, whether that's B2B content or B2C content. To make an emotional connection with your audience no matter who they are.” - April Weber</p><p>*“<i>500 Days of Summer </i>made us laugh. It made us feel sad. And it definitely makes you reminisce about your own experience, which is a great way to have any kind of content. If you can get in all the emotions at once, that's awesome.” - April Weber</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet April Weber, Integrated Marketing Manager at Infobip </p><p>[1:40] Why are we talking about <i>500 Days of Summer</i>?</p><p>[4:13] What is April responsible for at Infobip? </p><p>[5:14] What is <i>500 Days of Summer </i>about? </p><p>[10:32] Why is <i>500 Days of Summer </i>remarkable?</p><p>[12:28] What marketing lessons can we glean from <i>500 Days of Summer</i>?</p><p>[32:58] What’s April’s content strategy at Infobip? </p><p>[38:44] How does April think about the ROI of content?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.5e5885d0-1ed5-4b3a-b30d-4f4c6c93cf04?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch 500 Days of Summer</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/weberapril/">Connect with April on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.infobip.com/">Learn more about Infobip</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>If you don’t want to just create content, but you want to create iconic content, this episode is for you.  </p><p>Though your brand might not be identifiable by the color pink, swirling font and long blond hair, there’s so much we can take away from <i>Barbie</i>, the movie. Because Mattel created branded content that has lasted for over six decades - and the new movie with Margot Robbie has rejuvenated the brand appeal. <i>Barbie</i>, the movie, was part of a power play that would transform Mattel from a toy company into an IP company that manages franchises. With that in mind, we’re taking a look at the movie that sparked so much anticipation around the world and brought in over $1.4 billion dollars globally.</p><p>We’re talking about B2B marketing lessons from <i>Barbie</i> with the help of the Director of Content Marketing at Mach49, Angelica Valentine. Together, we’re discussing why you should market your brand <i>literally </i>everywhere, how to deliver your content the “right” way, and utilizing and leveraging product placement. So put on something pink for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Angelica Valentine</strong></p><p>Angelica Valentine brings a decade of marketing experience to her role as Mach49’s Director of Content Marketing. She focuses on telling impact stories about the client outcomes and builds thought leadership programs to champion Mach49’s expert perspectives. From international event management to customer stories to social media campaigns, Angelica leverages traditional and experimental channels to help the world's best firms accelerate growth that matters.</p><p>Prior to Mach49, Angelica worked on the editorial team at fintech unicorn, Carta. She has also held marketing roles at several other B2B and B2C SaaS startups. In those positions, she focused on exponentially growing qualified leads by managing organic content marketing programs, securing media placements on sites like TechCrunch, and developing partnerships. Over the course of her career Angelica’s work has appeared on Forbes, VentureBeat, SAP, Hacker Noon, and more.</p><p>Angelica is an Oakland, California native and holds a BA in sociology and race and ethnic studies from Columbia University in New York City.</p><p><strong>About Mach49</strong></p><p>Mach49 is a growth incubator for global businesses. They partner with global businesses to build their growth engines through venture building, venture investing, strategic partnering, and targeted M&A. </p><p><strong>About </strong><i><strong>Barbie</strong></i><strong>, the Movie</strong></p><p><i>Barbie</i> is about the classic toy having a wonderful time in her perfect world, Barbie Land, until she has an existential crisis. So she goes on a journey to experience the real world, and discovers the complexities of what it means to be truly human. The movie came out in 2023. It was directed by Greta Gerwig from a screenplay by herself and her partner, Noah Baumbach. It was produced by Margot Robbie’s production company, LuckyChap, for Warner Brothers in association with Mattel. It stars Margot Robbie as Barbie and Ryan Gosling as Ken, as well as Kate McKinnon, America Ferrera, Michael Cera, Issa Rae, Will Ferrell, and more. </p><p>The movie has broken many records, being 2023’s <a href="https://www.axios.com/2023/07/23/barbie-box-office-opening-sales">biggest opening weekend</a>; the largest opening for a <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/23/movies/barbie-oppenheimer-box-office-numbers.html">female director ever</a>; <a href="https://deadline.com/2023/08/box-office-barbie-warner-bros-record-1235520568/">Warner Bros.' highest grossing domestic release in history</a>. <i>Barbie</i> has also become the highest-growing movie of this year - 2023 - having brought in $575.4 million in the U.S. as of this week, according to <a href="https://variety.com/2023/film/box-office/barbie-highest-grossing-movie-2023-1235700741/">Variety</a>. It has already grossed $1.3 billion globally. It was expected to make $55 million its opening week, but it made $162 million. </p><p>Mattel has recently launched Malibu Barbie cafés and announced partnerships with Bloomingdale’s, Crocs, and Hot Topic.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>Barbie</strong></i><strong>: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Market your brand everywhere.</strong> <i>Barbie</i> was marketed so pervasively before its release in theaters that it was hard to <i>simply exist</i> without seeing a <i>Barbie</i> ad, toy, billboard, meme, you name it. Ian says, “It was brilliant marketing, but it also enhanced the actual day of activity because you had so much emotion and excitement for the thing. And I think that's a lot harder to do in B2B. But if it is something really exciting and you are generating a lot of anticipation, then that's worth it.” Especially for a re-brand or a product launch, put your ads across channels and even in unexpected places, so your audience just stumbles across them.</li><li><strong>Deliver your content the right way. </strong>Marketers are usually under pressure to get content out quickly. But instead of rushing it out and saying “good enough”, make sure that it’s done right. The right images, the right words, the right video clip, the right edits. <i>Barbie</i> wouldn’t be <i>Barbie</i> if it had been directed by someone other than Greta Gerwig, or played by anyone other than Margot Robbie. Ian says, “The fact that they did wait, and they did it the right way, and they brought in the right writer and creator, they brought in the right lead, and the right cast, and doing it the right way, rather than trying to rush it out is a lesson too. it worked in their favor. That it was a standalone, massive, huge launch that is befitting of Barbie's legacy in America and the world.”</li><li><strong>Utilize and leverage product placement. </strong>Birkenstocks were featured in <i>Barbie, </i>which Angelica says was 1) very relatable, since she’s a Birkenstock wearer. And 2), she says, “There’s all the news about Birkenstock having an IPO. These product placements really work. I don’t know the cause and effect relationship between the IPO and the movie, but clearly something had been in the works for a long time, and it definitely helped.” And Ian added that “women's Birkenstock sandals reportedly saw a 346 percent surge in sales after the movie.” So work with partners to have your products featured where they will gain a larger audience to improve brand awareness and increase sales.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”<i>Barbie</i> was a movie that had something for everyone. Children could go, my fiance's nieces went, and they're five and eight and had a great time. Their mom went and cried, probably at the same point that I did. So I mean, there really was just something for everyone.” - Angelica Valentine</p><p>*”The holistic aspect of the marketing for this film definitely stood out to me. It seemed like there was no stone unturned. Like, if you like Birkenstocks or if you go to Burger King, there is something for you in this marketing campaign. I really feel like they thought of everyone.” - Angelica Valentine</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[1:14] Meet Angelica Valentine, Director of Content Marketing at Mach49</p><p>[2:55] What does Angelica do at Mach49?</p><p>[5:46] What’s the <i>Barbie</i> movie about?</p><p>[8:51] Behind the scenes: The making of <i>Barbie</i></p><p>[12:32] How is <i>Barbie, </i>the movie remarkable?</p><p>[14:31] Discussion on Barbie's cultural impact</p><p>[19:52] What marketing lessons can we take from <i>Barbie, </i>the movie?</p><p>[26:46] How do you build anticipation in marketing?</p><p>[28:12] The power of experiential marketing: The <i>Barbie</i> movie experience</p><p>[29:47] The impact of brand collaborations in marketing</p><p>[31:15] The power of product placement in marketing</p><p>[35:20] The role of nostalgia in marketing</p><p>[46:35] How does Angelica approach the challenge of measuring ROI in content marketing?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.17f2bd91-afd8-4ae8-8dbc-9c49066e771c?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch <i>Barbie</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelicavalentine/">Connect with Angelica on Linkedin</a></p><p><a href="https://www.mach49.com/">Learn more about Mach49</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you don’t want to just create content, but you want to create iconic content, this episode is for you.  </p><p>Though your brand might not be identifiable by the color pink, swirling font and long blond hair, there’s so much we can take away from <i>Barbie</i>, the movie. Because Mattel created branded content that has lasted for over six decades - and the new movie with Margot Robbie has rejuvenated the brand appeal. <i>Barbie</i>, the movie, was part of a power play that would transform Mattel from a toy company into an IP company that manages franchises. With that in mind, we’re taking a look at the movie that sparked so much anticipation around the world and brought in over $1.4 billion dollars globally.</p><p>We’re talking about B2B marketing lessons from <i>Barbie</i> with the help of the Director of Content Marketing at Mach49, Angelica Valentine. Together, we’re discussing why you should market your brand <i>literally </i>everywhere, how to deliver your content the “right” way, and utilizing and leveraging product placement. So put on something pink for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Angelica Valentine</strong></p><p>Angelica Valentine brings a decade of marketing experience to her role as Mach49’s Director of Content Marketing. She focuses on telling impact stories about the client outcomes and builds thought leadership programs to champion Mach49’s expert perspectives. From international event management to customer stories to social media campaigns, Angelica leverages traditional and experimental channels to help the world's best firms accelerate growth that matters.</p><p>Prior to Mach49, Angelica worked on the editorial team at fintech unicorn, Carta. She has also held marketing roles at several other B2B and B2C SaaS startups. In those positions, she focused on exponentially growing qualified leads by managing organic content marketing programs, securing media placements on sites like TechCrunch, and developing partnerships. Over the course of her career Angelica’s work has appeared on Forbes, VentureBeat, SAP, Hacker Noon, and more.</p><p>Angelica is an Oakland, California native and holds a BA in sociology and race and ethnic studies from Columbia University in New York City.</p><p><strong>About Mach49</strong></p><p>Mach49 is a growth incubator for global businesses. They partner with global businesses to build their growth engines through venture building, venture investing, strategic partnering, and targeted M&A. </p><p><strong>About </strong><i><strong>Barbie</strong></i><strong>, the Movie</strong></p><p><i>Barbie</i> is about the classic toy having a wonderful time in her perfect world, Barbie Land, until she has an existential crisis. So she goes on a journey to experience the real world, and discovers the complexities of what it means to be truly human. The movie came out in 2023. It was directed by Greta Gerwig from a screenplay by herself and her partner, Noah Baumbach. It was produced by Margot Robbie’s production company, LuckyChap, for Warner Brothers in association with Mattel. It stars Margot Robbie as Barbie and Ryan Gosling as Ken, as well as Kate McKinnon, America Ferrera, Michael Cera, Issa Rae, Will Ferrell, and more. </p><p>The movie has broken many records, being 2023’s <a href="https://www.axios.com/2023/07/23/barbie-box-office-opening-sales">biggest opening weekend</a>; the largest opening for a <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/23/movies/barbie-oppenheimer-box-office-numbers.html">female director ever</a>; <a href="https://deadline.com/2023/08/box-office-barbie-warner-bros-record-1235520568/">Warner Bros.' highest grossing domestic release in history</a>. <i>Barbie</i> has also become the highest-growing movie of this year - 2023 - having brought in $575.4 million in the U.S. as of this week, according to <a href="https://variety.com/2023/film/box-office/barbie-highest-grossing-movie-2023-1235700741/">Variety</a>. It has already grossed $1.3 billion globally. It was expected to make $55 million its opening week, but it made $162 million. </p><p>Mattel has recently launched Malibu Barbie cafés and announced partnerships with Bloomingdale’s, Crocs, and Hot Topic.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>Barbie</strong></i><strong>: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Market your brand everywhere.</strong> <i>Barbie</i> was marketed so pervasively before its release in theaters that it was hard to <i>simply exist</i> without seeing a <i>Barbie</i> ad, toy, billboard, meme, you name it. Ian says, “It was brilliant marketing, but it also enhanced the actual day of activity because you had so much emotion and excitement for the thing. And I think that's a lot harder to do in B2B. But if it is something really exciting and you are generating a lot of anticipation, then that's worth it.” Especially for a re-brand or a product launch, put your ads across channels and even in unexpected places, so your audience just stumbles across them.</li><li><strong>Deliver your content the right way. </strong>Marketers are usually under pressure to get content out quickly. But instead of rushing it out and saying “good enough”, make sure that it’s done right. The right images, the right words, the right video clip, the right edits. <i>Barbie</i> wouldn’t be <i>Barbie</i> if it had been directed by someone other than Greta Gerwig, or played by anyone other than Margot Robbie. Ian says, “The fact that they did wait, and they did it the right way, and they brought in the right writer and creator, they brought in the right lead, and the right cast, and doing it the right way, rather than trying to rush it out is a lesson too. it worked in their favor. That it was a standalone, massive, huge launch that is befitting of Barbie's legacy in America and the world.”</li><li><strong>Utilize and leverage product placement. </strong>Birkenstocks were featured in <i>Barbie, </i>which Angelica says was 1) very relatable, since she’s a Birkenstock wearer. And 2), she says, “There’s all the news about Birkenstock having an IPO. These product placements really work. I don’t know the cause and effect relationship between the IPO and the movie, but clearly something had been in the works for a long time, and it definitely helped.” And Ian added that “women's Birkenstock sandals reportedly saw a 346 percent surge in sales after the movie.” So work with partners to have your products featured where they will gain a larger audience to improve brand awareness and increase sales.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”<i>Barbie</i> was a movie that had something for everyone. Children could go, my fiance's nieces went, and they're five and eight and had a great time. Their mom went and cried, probably at the same point that I did. So I mean, there really was just something for everyone.” - Angelica Valentine</p><p>*”The holistic aspect of the marketing for this film definitely stood out to me. It seemed like there was no stone unturned. Like, if you like Birkenstocks or if you go to Burger King, there is something for you in this marketing campaign. I really feel like they thought of everyone.” - Angelica Valentine</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[1:14] Meet Angelica Valentine, Director of Content Marketing at Mach49</p><p>[2:55] What does Angelica do at Mach49?</p><p>[5:46] What’s the <i>Barbie</i> movie about?</p><p>[8:51] Behind the scenes: The making of <i>Barbie</i></p><p>[12:32] How is <i>Barbie, </i>the movie remarkable?</p><p>[14:31] Discussion on Barbie's cultural impact</p><p>[19:52] What marketing lessons can we take from <i>Barbie, </i>the movie?</p><p>[26:46] How do you build anticipation in marketing?</p><p>[28:12] The power of experiential marketing: The <i>Barbie</i> movie experience</p><p>[29:47] The impact of brand collaborations in marketing</p><p>[31:15] The power of product placement in marketing</p><p>[35:20] The role of nostalgia in marketing</p><p>[46:35] How does Angelica approach the challenge of measuring ROI in content marketing?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.17f2bd91-afd8-4ae8-8dbc-9c49066e771c?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch <i>Barbie</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelicavalentine/">Connect with Angelica on Linkedin</a></p><p><a href="https://www.mach49.com/">Learn more about Mach49</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>If you don’t want to just build a brand, but you want to build an icon, this episode is for you.  

Though your brand might not be identifiable by the color pink, swirling font and long blond hair, there’s so much we can take away from Barbie, the movie. Because Mattel created a brand that has lasted for over six decades - and the new movie with Margot Robbie has rejuvenated the brand appeal. Barbie, the movie, was part of a power play that would transform Mattel from a toy company into an IP company that manages franchises. With that in mind, we’re taking a look at the movie that sparked so much anticipation around the world and brought in over $1.4 billion dollars globally. 

We’re talking about B2B marketing lessons from Barbie with the help of the Director of Content Marketing at Mach49, Angelica Valentine. Together, we’re discussing why you should market your brand literally everywhere, how to deliver your content the “right” way, and utilizing and leveraging product placement. So put on something pink for this episode of Remarkable.</itunes:summary>
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Though your brand might not be identifiable by the color pink, swirling font and long blond hair, there’s so much we can take away from Barbie, the movie. Because Mattel created a brand that has lasted for over six decades - and the new movie with Margot Robbie has rejuvenated the brand appeal. Barbie, the movie, was part of a power play that would transform Mattel from a toy company into an IP company that manages franchises. With that in mind, we’re taking a look at the movie that sparked so much anticipation around the world and brought in over $1.4 billion dollars globally. 

We’re talking about B2B marketing lessons from Barbie with the help of the Director of Content Marketing at Mach49, Angelica Valentine. Together, we’re discussing why you should market your brand literally everywhere, how to deliver your content the “right” way, and utilizing and leveraging product placement. So put on something pink for this episode of Remarkable.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>White Lotus: B2B Marketing Lessons from Season 2 with Head of Brand Content at Atlassian, Natalie Mendes</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Is your brand strong enough that you can release logo-less content and people still know it's from your company? </p><p>Are the visuals, the font, the tone and voice so clearly yours? Brand is so nuanced. But when done well, your name will be the first in the buyer’s mind when they’re ready to make a purchase. </p><p>In this episode, we’re taking tips from a show that has super strong branding: White Lotus. We’re discussing Season 2 with Atlassian’s Head of Brand Content, Natalie Mendes. Together, we’re talking about how to cultivate a brand that will take you from season to season, investing in the heroes of your brand, and much more. Now, you can put on your bathing suit, but we wouldn’t recommend getting in the water for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Natalie Mendes</strong></p><p>Natalie Mendes is Head of Brand Content at Atlassian. She is an award-winning marketing leader with a wealth of experience in content marketing spanning over a decade. At Atlassian, she started and grew the brand content team, with a track record of building successful content strategies that drive traffic, engagement, and conversion. She has  won several awards, including Best B2B Content Site from Digiday and Best Digital Publication from Content Marketing Institute. She has experience in SEO strategy and content development, paid and organic social media, email marketing, website development, and PR.</p><p>At Atlassian, she leads strategy and execution of content on their website, blog, podcasts, video, and social media. She has grown a team of skilled and motivated content marketers that serve and support their brand and product marketing strategies, as well as managing external agencies for social media and web development. They have grown organic monthly pageviews by 1000% in the past 3 years and proved out paths for sales. She has grown a thriving and engaged following for Atlassian brand and won multiple excellence awards in B2B Content Strategy and Podcasting.</p><p><strong>About Atlassian</strong></p><p>Atlassian is a portfolio of products that enable teams, increase collaboration and communication, and help businesses obtain their desired business goals. They connect teams to share work and drive higher productivity and outcomes. The teams they support include software, IT, business, marketing and more. Their team of 7000+ Atlassians supports an international group of 250,000+ customers. They build tools like Jira, Confluence, Bitbucket, and Trello to help teams across the world become more nimble, creative, and aligned.</p><p><strong>About </strong><i><strong>White Lotus</strong></i></p><p><i>White Lotus</i> is about the guests and employees of a fictional resort chain of the same name, White Lotus. While initially everything is beautiful and picture-perfect on the surface, there’s a darkness underneath that reveals itself more and more as time goes on. The second season is set in Sicily and stars Jennifer Coolidge as Tanya McQuoid-Hunt, F. Murray Abraham as Bert Di Grasso, Michael Imperioli as Dominic Di Grasso, Adam DiMarco as Albie Di Grasso, Aubrey Plaza as Harper Spiller, and her husband, Ethan Spiller is played by Will Sharpe. It starts off with the death of a guest at the White Lotus resort and revolves around the sex lives of the characters from cheating to addiction. This is different from the first season, which focused on money and privilege. The series was created by Mike White for HBO and premiered in 2021. There are now two seasons and a third in production, which will reportedly be filmed in Thailand. Each season is set at a different White Lotus resort. The first season was set in Hawaii. It has won ten Primetime Emmy Awards and two Golden Globes.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>White Lotus</strong></i><strong>: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Cultivate a brand that can carry you from season to season.</strong> And piece of content to piece of content. You should be able to use your brand voice across channels. The key is that your content has to be of high value to your audience. They learn to look forward to your content and trust the quality of it. Natalie says, “It's so much easier and efficient in a lot of ways to build on something that's working than to try to change up your story every single year and try new marketing formats just for the sake of it. When you can build on something over time, that's where you see the benefit and the growth, even from an organic SEO standpoint, we still see lots of great traffic coming to our old content. It's not all about the new stuff every time.” It’s like how we know that each season of White Lotus takes place in a different luxury resort. And it sets the stage for drama to unfold. So the audience learns to trust the quality of the storytelling and looks forward to a dark, complex plot that is undeniably White Lotus.</li><li><strong>Highlight the “heroes” of your brand. </strong>Whether it’s a character in your marketing or a fan favorite product, give your audience more. Natalie says, “Find your darlings and really invest in them.” She says, “Whether that's something that starts in your digital world and becomes an event in the real world, or your customers rally around one of your products or a new feature, letting that take off and knowing that that is gonna be good for your brand and good for your customers, while still having the regular cast of characters in the mix.” In White Lotus, it was Jennifer Coolidge’s character, Tanya, who became very popular. And references to her, including memes, are all over the internet. At Atlassian, they unleashed evangelists with resources and messaging to consult with customers. These evangelists, or heroes, strengthen their brand and accelerate the business.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”It's a show where there is no hero. Nobody really wins. And I think that's sort of what I like about it too, is it's more of a character study in these people and what's driving them to do things and what's holding them back and what are their secrets.” - Natalie Mendes</p><p>*”Once I started watching <i>White Lotus</i>, I just got immediately hooked on the story and the intrigue. So it's a show where you know the ending but then the whole show is about figuring out how it happened. And so I love how that storytelling device hooks you immediately and then you become part of the show.” - Natalie Mendes</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:53] Meet Natalie Mendes, Head of Brand Content at Atlassian</p><p>[2:40] What is Natalie responsible for in her role at Atlassian?</p><p>[4:31] What is <i>White Lotus</i> about?</p><p>[8:11] Why is <i>White Lotus</i> remarkable?</p><p>[23:02] How does Natalie think about brand?</p><p>[25:54] What B2B marketing lessons can we learn from <i>White Lotus?</i></p><p>[34:59] What’s Natalie’s content strategy?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.1e63a045-00d7-4363-b581-5d7d1a967bd6?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch <i>White Lotus</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nataliemendes/">Connect with Natalie on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.atlassian.com/">Learn more about Atlassian</a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/teamistry/id1501203196">Listen to Teamistry</a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/work-check/id1580149559">Listen to Work Check</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Natalie Mendes, Ian Faison, Meredith Gooderham, Jess Avellino, Scott Goodrich)</author>
      <link>https://www.caspianstudios.com/remarkable</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is your brand strong enough that you can release logo-less content and people still know it's from your company? </p><p>Are the visuals, the font, the tone and voice so clearly yours? Brand is so nuanced. But when done well, your name will be the first in the buyer’s mind when they’re ready to make a purchase. </p><p>In this episode, we’re taking tips from a show that has super strong branding: White Lotus. We’re discussing Season 2 with Atlassian’s Head of Brand Content, Natalie Mendes. Together, we’re talking about how to cultivate a brand that will take you from season to season, investing in the heroes of your brand, and much more. Now, you can put on your bathing suit, but we wouldn’t recommend getting in the water for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Natalie Mendes</strong></p><p>Natalie Mendes is Head of Brand Content at Atlassian. She is an award-winning marketing leader with a wealth of experience in content marketing spanning over a decade. At Atlassian, she started and grew the brand content team, with a track record of building successful content strategies that drive traffic, engagement, and conversion. She has  won several awards, including Best B2B Content Site from Digiday and Best Digital Publication from Content Marketing Institute. She has experience in SEO strategy and content development, paid and organic social media, email marketing, website development, and PR.</p><p>At Atlassian, she leads strategy and execution of content on their website, blog, podcasts, video, and social media. She has grown a team of skilled and motivated content marketers that serve and support their brand and product marketing strategies, as well as managing external agencies for social media and web development. They have grown organic monthly pageviews by 1000% in the past 3 years and proved out paths for sales. She has grown a thriving and engaged following for Atlassian brand and won multiple excellence awards in B2B Content Strategy and Podcasting.</p><p><strong>About Atlassian</strong></p><p>Atlassian is a portfolio of products that enable teams, increase collaboration and communication, and help businesses obtain their desired business goals. They connect teams to share work and drive higher productivity and outcomes. The teams they support include software, IT, business, marketing and more. Their team of 7000+ Atlassians supports an international group of 250,000+ customers. They build tools like Jira, Confluence, Bitbucket, and Trello to help teams across the world become more nimble, creative, and aligned.</p><p><strong>About </strong><i><strong>White Lotus</strong></i></p><p><i>White Lotus</i> is about the guests and employees of a fictional resort chain of the same name, White Lotus. While initially everything is beautiful and picture-perfect on the surface, there’s a darkness underneath that reveals itself more and more as time goes on. The second season is set in Sicily and stars Jennifer Coolidge as Tanya McQuoid-Hunt, F. Murray Abraham as Bert Di Grasso, Michael Imperioli as Dominic Di Grasso, Adam DiMarco as Albie Di Grasso, Aubrey Plaza as Harper Spiller, and her husband, Ethan Spiller is played by Will Sharpe. It starts off with the death of a guest at the White Lotus resort and revolves around the sex lives of the characters from cheating to addiction. This is different from the first season, which focused on money and privilege. The series was created by Mike White for HBO and premiered in 2021. There are now two seasons and a third in production, which will reportedly be filmed in Thailand. Each season is set at a different White Lotus resort. The first season was set in Hawaii. It has won ten Primetime Emmy Awards and two Golden Globes.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>White Lotus</strong></i><strong>: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Cultivate a brand that can carry you from season to season.</strong> And piece of content to piece of content. You should be able to use your brand voice across channels. The key is that your content has to be of high value to your audience. They learn to look forward to your content and trust the quality of it. Natalie says, “It's so much easier and efficient in a lot of ways to build on something that's working than to try to change up your story every single year and try new marketing formats just for the sake of it. When you can build on something over time, that's where you see the benefit and the growth, even from an organic SEO standpoint, we still see lots of great traffic coming to our old content. It's not all about the new stuff every time.” It’s like how we know that each season of White Lotus takes place in a different luxury resort. And it sets the stage for drama to unfold. So the audience learns to trust the quality of the storytelling and looks forward to a dark, complex plot that is undeniably White Lotus.</li><li><strong>Highlight the “heroes” of your brand. </strong>Whether it’s a character in your marketing or a fan favorite product, give your audience more. Natalie says, “Find your darlings and really invest in them.” She says, “Whether that's something that starts in your digital world and becomes an event in the real world, or your customers rally around one of your products or a new feature, letting that take off and knowing that that is gonna be good for your brand and good for your customers, while still having the regular cast of characters in the mix.” In White Lotus, it was Jennifer Coolidge’s character, Tanya, who became very popular. And references to her, including memes, are all over the internet. At Atlassian, they unleashed evangelists with resources and messaging to consult with customers. These evangelists, or heroes, strengthen their brand and accelerate the business.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”It's a show where there is no hero. Nobody really wins. And I think that's sort of what I like about it too, is it's more of a character study in these people and what's driving them to do things and what's holding them back and what are their secrets.” - Natalie Mendes</p><p>*”Once I started watching <i>White Lotus</i>, I just got immediately hooked on the story and the intrigue. So it's a show where you know the ending but then the whole show is about figuring out how it happened. And so I love how that storytelling device hooks you immediately and then you become part of the show.” - Natalie Mendes</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:53] Meet Natalie Mendes, Head of Brand Content at Atlassian</p><p>[2:40] What is Natalie responsible for in her role at Atlassian?</p><p>[4:31] What is <i>White Lotus</i> about?</p><p>[8:11] Why is <i>White Lotus</i> remarkable?</p><p>[23:02] How does Natalie think about brand?</p><p>[25:54] What B2B marketing lessons can we learn from <i>White Lotus?</i></p><p>[34:59] What’s Natalie’s content strategy?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.1e63a045-00d7-4363-b581-5d7d1a967bd6?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch <i>White Lotus</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nataliemendes/">Connect with Natalie on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.atlassian.com/">Learn more about Atlassian</a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/teamistry/id1501203196">Listen to Teamistry</a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/work-check/id1580149559">Listen to Work Check</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Marketing is a game. It has its own players, rules and rewards. And the stakes are high. So we’re here to help you win the battle for the Iron Throne. </p><p>In this episode, we’re bingeing the epic HBO drama <i>Game of Thrones </i>to see what it can teach us about playing the game of marketing. Here to help us is Datadog CMO Alex Rosemblat. And together, we’re exploring how to win the battle by keeping your oath, using the rules of the game to your advantage, and putting your dragons to good use. So don your furs and prepare for battle as we charge into this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Alex Rosemblat</strong></p><p>Alex Rosemblat is Chief Marketing Officer at Datadog. Prior to his current role, Alex served as the Product Marketer for Dell’s Cloud and Virtualization product family (via the acquisition of VKernel), bringing virtualization management and cloud monitoring software products to market. </p><p>Alex has 15 years of experience with enterprise software and related technologies through product management, IT consulting, and pre-sales engineering with Symantec (via the acquisition of SwapDrive) and Epic Systems Corporation. He has spent the last 8+ years at DataDog, and helped lead the company to its successful IPO in 2019.</p><p><strong>About Datadog</strong></p><p>Datadog is a SaaS-based monitoring and analytics platform for large-scale applications and infrastructure. Combining real-time metrics from servers, containers, databases, and applications with end-to-end tracing, Datadog delivers actionable alerts and powerful visualizations to provide full-stack observability.</p><p><strong>About </strong><i><strong>Game of Thrones</strong></i></p><p><i>Game of Thrones </i>is a massively successful epic fantasy series with an impassioned following. It’s about a civil war among noble families who are fighting for control over the iron throne that rules the lands of Westeros. Meanwhile an ancient enemy - the Night King - returns after being dormant for thousands of years. There are three major plot lines: the first is about the fight for the iron throne among the families. The second is about the rightful heir coming back to claim the throne. And the third is about the incoming winter, as seasons don’t have a worldly timeline, and so the summer has lasted something like a decade. The winter also implies hard times and the threat from the North, where the wildlings and Night King live. It’s based on the book series <i>A Song of Ice and Fire</i> by George R.R. Martin published in 1996. The series was created by David Benioff and D.B. Weiss for HBO. And it has a massive ensemble cast of over 500 characters. The show stars Emilia Clarke as Daenerys Targaryen, Peter Dinklage as Tyrion Lannister, Kit Harington as Jon Snow, Maisie Williams as Arya Stark, and more. It premiered in 2011 with eight seasons that wrapped up in 2019. <a href="https://decider.com/2019/05/21/game-of-thrones-hbo-profits/#">That year</a>, it was HBO’s most watched show and the most watched scripted show on TV, period. It had a total show <a href="https://www.finance-monthly.com/2019/05/how-much-money-has-hbo-made-from-game-of-thrones/">budget</a> of $1.5 Billion, and has earned $3.1 Billion through HBO subscriptions alone as of May 2019. It was filmed in the United Kingdom, Canada, Croatia, Iceland, Malta, Morocco, and Spain.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>Game of Thrones</strong></i><strong>: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Keep your oath.</strong> And only market what you can deliver. It’s when you live up to your oath that you build trust and earn brand loyalty. Ian says, “If you say you're going to do something in your marketing, you better be damn sure that sales can deliver on that, that your product can deliver on it, and that customer success is going to be there if you fall short of that. Because so often we get out way over our skis. We're pitching a product that doesn't exist yet. And that's going to make people way madder than if you just didn't promise it in the first place.” So don’t break your oath like Jamie Lannister did when he killed the king. Ian says, “That follows him forever.” So keep your brand promise - or your “oath” - and deliver on what you market.</li><li><strong>Play the marketing game. </strong>Be strategic in your marketing tactics. Experiment and use what works. And don’t overthink it. Small, steady successes are how you win the game. Alex says, “In demand gen sometimes you set up ads that are kind of gimmicky, and it'd be nice to do something a little bit more cerebral. But hey, you know, people like the jingle or, you know, whatever it is. And I think that there's a fair amount of pragmatism If you stick to that and you don't have this big ideology or this grand picture that you're trying to fill the pieces on. You just keep on stringing together successes of what works even if they're very moderate and small scale. Everything is a stepwise function, and you build your way up pretty high, just like Bronn does in the show.”</li><li><strong>If you have dragons, use them. </strong>Don’t chain them up. Alex says that especially if you’re a startup, you need all the help you can get getting your brand off the ground. He says, “If you have any kind of secret weapon, you better use it. And you're probably going to want to use it pretty early on. You're not going to want to sit on it.” So call up your old classmates who are well connected. Leverage the talents and skills of your employees to make something great. For Alex, he said his secret weapon was that “I understood the persona we were selling to super well. And everything that went out the door was uniquely tailored to what a technical person would react well to. And the stats at the other end just kind of pop off the charts.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Being good at growth marketing is being scrappy. Trying things out, not being afraid to lean into something even if it is a little bit hacky if it works. Never overstepping your bounds, and understanding that the world works a certain way.” - Alex Rosemblat</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Alex Rosemblat, CMO at Datadog</p><p>[2:32] What is Datadog? And what is their marketing strategy?</p><p>[5:03] What is <i>Game of Thrones</i> about?</p><p>[7:59] What can <i>Game of Thrones </i>teach us about marketing?</p><p>[18:56] Character analysis: Bronn as a growth marketer</p><p>[25:00] How do you leverage connections and unique talents for success?</p><p>[26:17] The power of positioning and unique selling propositions </p><p>[29:33] What are the consequences of breaking brand promises?</p><p>[45:48] The importance of quality over quantity in content creation</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.6081f898-32dd-4222-8763-5cb96b4eb033?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch Game of Thrones</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexrosemblat/">Connect with Alex on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.datadoghq.com/">Learn more about Datadog</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marketing is a game. It has its own players, rules and rewards. And the stakes are high. So we’re here to help you win the battle for the Iron Throne. </p><p>In this episode, we’re bingeing the epic HBO drama <i>Game of Thrones </i>to see what it can teach us about playing the game of marketing. Here to help us is Datadog CMO Alex Rosemblat. And together, we’re exploring how to win the battle by keeping your oath, using the rules of the game to your advantage, and putting your dragons to good use. So don your furs and prepare for battle as we charge into this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Alex Rosemblat</strong></p><p>Alex Rosemblat is Chief Marketing Officer at Datadog. Prior to his current role, Alex served as the Product Marketer for Dell’s Cloud and Virtualization product family (via the acquisition of VKernel), bringing virtualization management and cloud monitoring software products to market. </p><p>Alex has 15 years of experience with enterprise software and related technologies through product management, IT consulting, and pre-sales engineering with Symantec (via the acquisition of SwapDrive) and Epic Systems Corporation. He has spent the last 8+ years at DataDog, and helped lead the company to its successful IPO in 2019.</p><p><strong>About Datadog</strong></p><p>Datadog is a SaaS-based monitoring and analytics platform for large-scale applications and infrastructure. Combining real-time metrics from servers, containers, databases, and applications with end-to-end tracing, Datadog delivers actionable alerts and powerful visualizations to provide full-stack observability.</p><p><strong>About </strong><i><strong>Game of Thrones</strong></i></p><p><i>Game of Thrones </i>is a massively successful epic fantasy series with an impassioned following. It’s about a civil war among noble families who are fighting for control over the iron throne that rules the lands of Westeros. Meanwhile an ancient enemy - the Night King - returns after being dormant for thousands of years. There are three major plot lines: the first is about the fight for the iron throne among the families. The second is about the rightful heir coming back to claim the throne. And the third is about the incoming winter, as seasons don’t have a worldly timeline, and so the summer has lasted something like a decade. The winter also implies hard times and the threat from the North, where the wildlings and Night King live. It’s based on the book series <i>A Song of Ice and Fire</i> by George R.R. Martin published in 1996. The series was created by David Benioff and D.B. Weiss for HBO. And it has a massive ensemble cast of over 500 characters. The show stars Emilia Clarke as Daenerys Targaryen, Peter Dinklage as Tyrion Lannister, Kit Harington as Jon Snow, Maisie Williams as Arya Stark, and more. It premiered in 2011 with eight seasons that wrapped up in 2019. <a href="https://decider.com/2019/05/21/game-of-thrones-hbo-profits/#">That year</a>, it was HBO’s most watched show and the most watched scripted show on TV, period. It had a total show <a href="https://www.finance-monthly.com/2019/05/how-much-money-has-hbo-made-from-game-of-thrones/">budget</a> of $1.5 Billion, and has earned $3.1 Billion through HBO subscriptions alone as of May 2019. It was filmed in the United Kingdom, Canada, Croatia, Iceland, Malta, Morocco, and Spain.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>Game of Thrones</strong></i><strong>: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Keep your oath.</strong> And only market what you can deliver. It’s when you live up to your oath that you build trust and earn brand loyalty. Ian says, “If you say you're going to do something in your marketing, you better be damn sure that sales can deliver on that, that your product can deliver on it, and that customer success is going to be there if you fall short of that. Because so often we get out way over our skis. We're pitching a product that doesn't exist yet. And that's going to make people way madder than if you just didn't promise it in the first place.” So don’t break your oath like Jamie Lannister did when he killed the king. Ian says, “That follows him forever.” So keep your brand promise - or your “oath” - and deliver on what you market.</li><li><strong>Play the marketing game. </strong>Be strategic in your marketing tactics. Experiment and use what works. And don’t overthink it. Small, steady successes are how you win the game. Alex says, “In demand gen sometimes you set up ads that are kind of gimmicky, and it'd be nice to do something a little bit more cerebral. But hey, you know, people like the jingle or, you know, whatever it is. And I think that there's a fair amount of pragmatism If you stick to that and you don't have this big ideology or this grand picture that you're trying to fill the pieces on. You just keep on stringing together successes of what works even if they're very moderate and small scale. Everything is a stepwise function, and you build your way up pretty high, just like Bronn does in the show.”</li><li><strong>If you have dragons, use them. </strong>Don’t chain them up. Alex says that especially if you’re a startup, you need all the help you can get getting your brand off the ground. He says, “If you have any kind of secret weapon, you better use it. And you're probably going to want to use it pretty early on. You're not going to want to sit on it.” So call up your old classmates who are well connected. Leverage the talents and skills of your employees to make something great. For Alex, he said his secret weapon was that “I understood the persona we were selling to super well. And everything that went out the door was uniquely tailored to what a technical person would react well to. And the stats at the other end just kind of pop off the charts.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Being good at growth marketing is being scrappy. Trying things out, not being afraid to lean into something even if it is a little bit hacky if it works. Never overstepping your bounds, and understanding that the world works a certain way.” - Alex Rosemblat</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Alex Rosemblat, CMO at Datadog</p><p>[2:32] What is Datadog? And what is their marketing strategy?</p><p>[5:03] What is <i>Game of Thrones</i> about?</p><p>[7:59] What can <i>Game of Thrones </i>teach us about marketing?</p><p>[18:56] Character analysis: Bronn as a growth marketer</p><p>[25:00] How do you leverage connections and unique talents for success?</p><p>[26:17] The power of positioning and unique selling propositions </p><p>[29:33] What are the consequences of breaking brand promises?</p><p>[45:48] The importance of quality over quantity in content creation</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.6081f898-32dd-4222-8763-5cb96b4eb033?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch Game of Thrones</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexrosemblat/">Connect with Alex on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.datadoghq.com/">Learn more about Datadog</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever daydreamed about running your marketing off the rails and blazing your own trail? A trail that feels so true to your company yet so outside the bounds of what B2B marketing normally looks like? </p><p>It probably feels way too risky. You’ll think, “I’ll alienate my audience.” OR you might find your true audience. Your ride or die audience. And wouldn’t that be worth the risk? </p><p>Today, we’re looking at the 1990 movie <i>Wild at Heart </i>starring Nicholas Cage and Laura Dern; the movie our guest, Steve Mudd, said was “the first movie that I ever saw that was unlike every other movie I had ever seen.” It’s a movie that has stuck with him ever since he first saw it that he returns to it again and again. Just like you want your customers to do with your brand. </p><p>Steve is Founder & CEO of Talentless AI, and he’s here to guide our exploration of marketing lessons taken from the cult classic. Together, we talk about how to use a simple storyline to be creative elsewhere, and how to create a campaign unlike any other. So buckle up for this wild and viscerally thrilling episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Steve Mudd</strong></p><p>Steve Mudd is founder and CEO of Talentless AI, a next-gen creative agency focused on creating good content at scale. Talentless AI is bringing together best-of-breed capabilities in GenAI, synthetic media, and digital production to help brands be more human in the age of AI. </p><p>Previously, he led content marketing and messaging strategy for the Public Cloud Services business unit at NetApp, where he delivered provocative content that told complicated stories in creative and authentic ways.</p><p>Steve has a long history as an IT storyteller, working for Ogilvy on brands such as IBM, Lenovo, Level 3 Communications, and Iron Mountain. He was also the host of the popular Ogilvy Podcast. Prior to Ogilvy, he marketed wind energy for Xcel Energy, helped transform sales and marketing for Encyclopaedia Britannica, and was a tour guide for the Coors Brewery. He also wrote, directed, and produced the feature film, <i>Seclusion</i>, now available on VHS at your local Blockbuster. He holds a BA in English from the University of Wyoming.</p><p><strong>About </strong><i><strong>Wild at Heart</strong></i></p><p><i>Wild at Heart </i>is a movie about a young couple, Sailor and Lula, who run away together after Lula’s mom hires a hitman to kill Sailor. It stars Nicholas Cage as Sailor and Laura Dern as Lula. Sailor is a very romantic just-out-of-jail type that wears a snakeskin jacket and sweeps southern belle Lula away in his 1965 Thunderbird convertible. And they plan to run away to California, stopping at motels along the way. It was written and directed by David Lynch based on the book by Barry Gifford. When it came out in 1990, <i>Wild at Heart</i> was very controversial because of its sexual and violent content. <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/aug/17/wild-at-heart-at-30-david-lynchs-divisive-and-unruly-road-movie">The Guardian </a>called it “a film of extreme violence and ugliness.” It was presented at the Cannes Film Festival where critic Dave Kehr said it was received with “the most violent chorus of boos and hisses to be heard in a decade.” Nevertheless, it became the controversial recipient of the esteemed Palme d’Or.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>Wild at Heart</strong></i><strong>: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Create a campaign so wildly different from the rest.</strong> Which may take a bit of daring, but is actually not that hard to do, since B2B marketing tends to be serious, corporate and sterile. Instead, make it funny and playful. Draw inspiration from your favorite movie, TV show, B2C ad, whatever! Surprise your audience that they are, indeed, seeing a B2B campaign. It will stick with them. Steve says, “When we go to the movies, we have an expectation of what that movie's gonna be. When I see marketing, when I go on LinkedIn now, I have an expectation of what that's gonna be.  But if I see something that's really, really different, I'm going to be attracted to that. My eyeballs are going to be drawn to that and I'm going to go to that.”</li><li><strong>Use a simple storyline.</strong> It’s easier for your audience to get on board with and follow. Plus it allows your message to shine. Ian says that <i>Wild at Heart</i> doesn’t have “the craziest plot. It's not the craziest storyline. But the characters and everything else are crazy. David Lynch fills in the entire tapestry with the most ridiculous characters you could ever possibly imagine.” So using a simple storyline, like how David Lynch uses a roadtrip, gets your audience hooked while allowing for flexibility to be creative elsewhere. </li><li><strong>Include familiar elements in an</strong><i> </i><strong>unusual campaign. </strong><i>T</i>hey act as a tether for the viewer, so they’ll still understand what you’re marketing. It’s like how David Lynch uses references to <i>The Wizard of Oz a</i>s storytelling mechanisms. So viewers who are familiar with the story of Dorothy on the yellow brick road will draw parallels between what happens in  Wild at Heart,<i> </i>and all the trials Sailor and Lula face on their way. Steve says that David Lynch combines “the incredibly familiar” with his storytelling so that the viewer is “open to the weirdness of the world.” So in your next wild campaign, remember to tether it back to your brand, your message, and your known characters.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”The story is still king, the characters are still king. And so the thing that you haven't seen before may not be this explosive visual or violent thing. But it's going to come down to the strength of the character and the voice in the content that you create.” - Steve Mudd</p><p>*”If it just looks different, it’ll stand out. It's something that someone has to stop scrolling and give three extra seconds to be like, ‘What is this? I don't know if I like it or not, but what is it?’ There's literally hundreds and hundreds of people that have a story of walking out from watching <i>Wild at Heart</i>. And like, that's better than nothing. It's better than being forgotten.” - Ian Faison</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:57] Meet Steve Mudd, Founder & CEO of Talentless AI</p><p>[1:51] Why is <i>Wild at Heart</i> remarkable?</p><p>[2:28] Learn more about Steve's career journey and storytelling</p><p>[3:25] What’s <i>Wild at Heart </i>about?</p><p>[4:57] Why was <i>Wild at Heart</i> so controversial? How was it received?</p><p>[6:00] How was <i>Wild at Heart </i>in a league of its own?</p><p>[14:01] B2B marketing lessons from <i>Wild at Heart</i></p><p>[17:47] The role of AI in content creation</p><p>[27:53] The importance of unique and serialized content</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/talentless-ai/">Connect with Steve on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.talentless.ai/">Learn more about Talentless AI</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2023 18:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Meredith Gooderham, Ian Faison, Steve Mudd, Scott Goodrich)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever daydreamed about running your marketing off the rails and blazing your own trail? A trail that feels so true to your company yet so outside the bounds of what B2B marketing normally looks like? </p><p>It probably feels way too risky. You’ll think, “I’ll alienate my audience.” OR you might find your true audience. Your ride or die audience. And wouldn’t that be worth the risk? </p><p>Today, we’re looking at the 1990 movie <i>Wild at Heart </i>starring Nicholas Cage and Laura Dern; the movie our guest, Steve Mudd, said was “the first movie that I ever saw that was unlike every other movie I had ever seen.” It’s a movie that has stuck with him ever since he first saw it that he returns to it again and again. Just like you want your customers to do with your brand. </p><p>Steve is Founder & CEO of Talentless AI, and he’s here to guide our exploration of marketing lessons taken from the cult classic. Together, we talk about how to use a simple storyline to be creative elsewhere, and how to create a campaign unlike any other. So buckle up for this wild and viscerally thrilling episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Steve Mudd</strong></p><p>Steve Mudd is founder and CEO of Talentless AI, a next-gen creative agency focused on creating good content at scale. Talentless AI is bringing together best-of-breed capabilities in GenAI, synthetic media, and digital production to help brands be more human in the age of AI. </p><p>Previously, he led content marketing and messaging strategy for the Public Cloud Services business unit at NetApp, where he delivered provocative content that told complicated stories in creative and authentic ways.</p><p>Steve has a long history as an IT storyteller, working for Ogilvy on brands such as IBM, Lenovo, Level 3 Communications, and Iron Mountain. He was also the host of the popular Ogilvy Podcast. Prior to Ogilvy, he marketed wind energy for Xcel Energy, helped transform sales and marketing for Encyclopaedia Britannica, and was a tour guide for the Coors Brewery. He also wrote, directed, and produced the feature film, <i>Seclusion</i>, now available on VHS at your local Blockbuster. He holds a BA in English from the University of Wyoming.</p><p><strong>About </strong><i><strong>Wild at Heart</strong></i></p><p><i>Wild at Heart </i>is a movie about a young couple, Sailor and Lula, who run away together after Lula’s mom hires a hitman to kill Sailor. It stars Nicholas Cage as Sailor and Laura Dern as Lula. Sailor is a very romantic just-out-of-jail type that wears a snakeskin jacket and sweeps southern belle Lula away in his 1965 Thunderbird convertible. And they plan to run away to California, stopping at motels along the way. It was written and directed by David Lynch based on the book by Barry Gifford. When it came out in 1990, <i>Wild at Heart</i> was very controversial because of its sexual and violent content. <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/aug/17/wild-at-heart-at-30-david-lynchs-divisive-and-unruly-road-movie">The Guardian </a>called it “a film of extreme violence and ugliness.” It was presented at the Cannes Film Festival where critic Dave Kehr said it was received with “the most violent chorus of boos and hisses to be heard in a decade.” Nevertheless, it became the controversial recipient of the esteemed Palme d’Or.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>Wild at Heart</strong></i><strong>: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Create a campaign so wildly different from the rest.</strong> Which may take a bit of daring, but is actually not that hard to do, since B2B marketing tends to be serious, corporate and sterile. Instead, make it funny and playful. Draw inspiration from your favorite movie, TV show, B2C ad, whatever! Surprise your audience that they are, indeed, seeing a B2B campaign. It will stick with them. Steve says, “When we go to the movies, we have an expectation of what that movie's gonna be. When I see marketing, when I go on LinkedIn now, I have an expectation of what that's gonna be.  But if I see something that's really, really different, I'm going to be attracted to that. My eyeballs are going to be drawn to that and I'm going to go to that.”</li><li><strong>Use a simple storyline.</strong> It’s easier for your audience to get on board with and follow. Plus it allows your message to shine. Ian says that <i>Wild at Heart</i> doesn’t have “the craziest plot. It's not the craziest storyline. But the characters and everything else are crazy. David Lynch fills in the entire tapestry with the most ridiculous characters you could ever possibly imagine.” So using a simple storyline, like how David Lynch uses a roadtrip, gets your audience hooked while allowing for flexibility to be creative elsewhere. </li><li><strong>Include familiar elements in an</strong><i> </i><strong>unusual campaign. </strong><i>T</i>hey act as a tether for the viewer, so they’ll still understand what you’re marketing. It’s like how David Lynch uses references to <i>The Wizard of Oz a</i>s storytelling mechanisms. So viewers who are familiar with the story of Dorothy on the yellow brick road will draw parallels between what happens in  Wild at Heart,<i> </i>and all the trials Sailor and Lula face on their way. Steve says that David Lynch combines “the incredibly familiar” with his storytelling so that the viewer is “open to the weirdness of the world.” So in your next wild campaign, remember to tether it back to your brand, your message, and your known characters.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”The story is still king, the characters are still king. And so the thing that you haven't seen before may not be this explosive visual or violent thing. But it's going to come down to the strength of the character and the voice in the content that you create.” - Steve Mudd</p><p>*”If it just looks different, it’ll stand out. It's something that someone has to stop scrolling and give three extra seconds to be like, ‘What is this? I don't know if I like it or not, but what is it?’ There's literally hundreds and hundreds of people that have a story of walking out from watching <i>Wild at Heart</i>. And like, that's better than nothing. It's better than being forgotten.” - Ian Faison</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:57] Meet Steve Mudd, Founder & CEO of Talentless AI</p><p>[1:51] Why is <i>Wild at Heart</i> remarkable?</p><p>[2:28] Learn more about Steve's career journey and storytelling</p><p>[3:25] What’s <i>Wild at Heart </i>about?</p><p>[4:57] Why was <i>Wild at Heart</i> so controversial? How was it received?</p><p>[6:00] How was <i>Wild at Heart </i>in a league of its own?</p><p>[14:01] B2B marketing lessons from <i>Wild at Heart</i></p><p>[17:47] The role of AI in content creation</p><p>[27:53] The importance of unique and serialized content</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/talentless-ai/">Connect with Steve on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.talentless.ai/">Learn more about Talentless AI</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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Steve is Founder &amp; CEO of Talentless AI, and he’s here to guide our exploration of marketing lessons taken from the cult classic. Together, we talk about how to use a simple storyline to be creative elsewhere, and how to create a campaign unlike any other. So buckle up for this wild and viscerally thrilling episode of Remarkable.</itunes:summary>
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Today, we’re looking at the 1990 movie Wild at Heart starring Nicholas Cage and Laura Dern; the movie our guest, Steve Mudd, said was “the first movie that I ever saw that was unlike every other movie I had ever seen.” It’s a movie that has stuck with him ever since he first saw it that he returns to it again and again. Just like you want your customers to do with your brand. 

Steve is Founder &amp; CEO of Talentless AI, and he’s here to guide our exploration of marketing lessons taken from the cult classic. Together, we talk about how to use a simple storyline to be creative elsewhere, and how to create a campaign unlike any other. So buckle up for this wild and viscerally thrilling episode of Remarkable.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>The Bear: B2B Marketing Lessons from the Emmy Nominated Series with VP of Brand Marketing at Lightcast, JP Lespinasse</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Corner! Sharp! Behind! For anyone who’s ever worked in a restaurant, you know these words mean a lot. It’s your language. For marketers, this is more like KPIs, ABM, ICP, Demand Gen. Using the lingo, the jargon, the correct terminology, is a powerful tool when you’re trying to reach and resonate with your target audience. You want to speak their language.</p><p>This means doing some market research to learn industry terms and how they’re used. This will also tell you a lot about what your audience cares about. And when you get it right, you’ll know. Your engagement will rise and so will your ROI.</p><p>This is what we’re talking about on today’s episode with JP Lespinasse, VP of Brand Marketing at Lightcast. JP and the Remarkable team are watching FX’s <i>The Bear</i>. Together, we’re talking about speaking the language of your audience, serving your audience what they crave, using familiar story recipes, and much, much more. So make yourself a sandwich and tuck in for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, JP Lespinasse</strong></p><p>JP Lespinasse is VP of Brand Marketing at Lightcast. He has over 25 years of marketing, communications and partnerships experience. Previously, he served as Head of Content Marketing at PayPal and Executive: Director of Content Strategy and Management at IBM. He has also worked at companies like Gap/Old Navy, NOKIA, and the NBA.</p><p><strong>About Lightcast</strong></p><p><a href="https://joshbersin.com/2023/05/lightcast-the-switzerland-of-the-global-skillstech-market/#:~:text=Lightcast%2C%20which%20is%20the%20merger,occupational%20data%20in%20the%20world.">Lightcast</a>, which is the merger of Emsi and BurningGlass, is the largest integrated data provider of jobs, skills, roles, and occupational data in the world.</p><p>They are a global pioneer in the collection and big-data analysis of information on the labor market. Their data provides the world’s most detailed information about occupations, skills in demand, and career pathways. </p><p>Their tools collect real-time data from over 40,000 sources every day, contributing to a database with over 1 billion job postings and billions of other data points. They combine that with curated input from dozens of other statistical sources, like government agencies, to provide the most complete view possible of the fast-changing labor market. They put that information to work for businesses, communities, and education providers by showing them the granular details and big-picture trends they need in their organizations.</p><p>Whether you’re interested in software salaries in Seattle, need new skills in New Zealand, or looking for anything in between, Lightcast data can provide the insight you need.</p><p><strong>About </strong><i><strong>The Bear</strong></i></p><p>The Bear is a show about an award-winning chef who leaves his Michelin star restaurant to go back to his hometown after his brother passes away to take over his brother’s sandwich shop. And so while struggling to keep the rowdy staff and messy kitchen running, he’s also trying to process and grieve his brother’s suicide. A lot of people who have worked in food service have said it’s a realistic depiction of what it’s actually like running a professional kitchen. At any moment it feels like it’s going to all fall apart, and it deals with the health inspections, payroll, dirty floors, plumbing and all of the tiny details that make it seem real. It stars Jeremy Allen White as “Carmy” Berzatto, Ebon Moss-Bachrach as the restaurant manager, Ayo Edibiri as the new sous chef, and more. The show was created by Christopher Storer for FX and has two seasons out on Hulu. The first season received 13 Emmy nominations including outstanding comedy series.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>The Bear</strong></i><strong>: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Serve your audience what they crave.</strong> Do research to understand their wants and needs. Then aim for continuous improvement. In <i>The Bear, </i>JP says that the main character, Carmi, knows that he can’t keep making Michelin star-level food when he takes over his brother’s sandwich shop. The customers just want the sandwich they know and love from The Beef. JP says, “For us as marketers and for Carmi and the staff at The Beef, it’s so important that in those first few episodes, it wasn't about changing anything. It was just about really focusing and listening and understanding the audience. What do they want? What do they come back for? How do I continue to serve them that?” This is especially true for marketers joining a new company where you see room for improvement. Don’t try to change everything at once. But make small changes along the way that will raise the quality of your output without alienating customers.</li><li><strong>Use familiar story recipes. </strong>We know the rags to riches, or in this case, riches to rags storytelling recipe. Because it works. Using these known recipes reels in your audience more easily because it feels familiar. It’s something they can immediately relate to. Yet it doesn’t mean the rest of the story is formulaic or that the ending is obvious. It’s just a place to start and hook your audience. Plus twists and turns in the storyline later will be even more of a surprise. When it comes to <i>The Bear, </i>Ian says, “Everybody and their brother has been to Chicago. And everyone has been to a sandwich shop in Chicago. So this idea that is so familiar, which is like, ‘Person moves back home to Chicago and takes over a sandwich shop, even though they're Michelin star.’ We just all immediately are like, ‘Okay, I've been to a sandwich shop in Chicago and I totally know how that feels.’” </li><li><strong>Make it feel real by showing the good, the bad and the meh. </strong>You will speak most effectively to marketers by acknowledging the less glamorous and even mundane parts of their job. JP said it best when he said <i>The Bear</i> “took off because all of these folks who had worked at restaurants were like, ‘Yep, that's exactly how it is.’ It's just so important to speak authentically to your audience.” And Ian adds, “If you don't really care, if you want to do the <i>Grey's Anatomy</i> version of it, right? Like, that's fine too, and it probably will be really commercially successful. But you won't get the diehards. And in today's day and age where the diehards are so vocal, it's a much more valuable currency to get the little details right.” So <i>The Bear </i>doesn’t shy away from the feeling of losing sense of time when you’re in the weeds, swamped with orders, or the payroll, plumbing, and no-shows. That’s why it resonates.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Marketers sometimes do ourselves a disservice. You’ve written 17 drafts of this webpage before it goes up. And so by the time it goes up, you're sick of it. And you're ready to change it immediately. The audience has never seen it before, right? The average person who comes to a webpage, they stay for a minute and a half, right? Like, so they're not going deep into all the individual words, the pictures and how you've architected it. So just let it sit. Let it breathe.” - JP Lespinasse</p><p>*”Back when I worked at IBM, we canceled and reworked a whole campaign because we'd done all this due diligence and were going to put some messaging out to the developer audience. And then at the last minute, we're like, ‘You know what? We should show this to some developers before we put it out into the world.’ And so we invited them over for pizza and a chat, and they're like, ‘Yeah, that's not how we talk. That's how the movies show how we talk, but that's not really authentically how we talk.’ And so we used all their feedback to rework the campaign.” - JP Lespinasse</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:54] Meet JP Lespinasse, VP of Brand Marketing at Lightcast</p><p>[1:23] What’s remarkable about <i>The Bear</i>?</p><p>[4:26] What does JP do at Lightcast?</p><p>[7:54] What’s <i>The Bear</i> about?</p><p>[20:11] How was <i>The Bear </i>created? Learn about its backstory.</p><p>[26:03] What B2B marketing lessons can we take from <i>The Bear?</i></p><p>[30:57] How can you elevate your brand?</p><p>[33:01] Why is it important to understand the language of your audience?</p><p>[44:09] How does JP approach the challenge of measuring ROI in content and brand?</p><p>[55:58] What role does brand play in B2B?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.hulu.com/series/05eb6a8e-90ed-4947-8c0b-e6536cbddd5f">Watch The Bear</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jplespinasse/">Connect with JP on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://lightcast.io/">Learn more about Lightcast</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2023 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (JP Lespinasse, Ian Faison, Meredith Gooderham, Jess Avellino, Scott Goodrich)</author>
      <link>https://www.caspianstudios.com/remarkable</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corner! Sharp! Behind! For anyone who’s ever worked in a restaurant, you know these words mean a lot. It’s your language. For marketers, this is more like KPIs, ABM, ICP, Demand Gen. Using the lingo, the jargon, the correct terminology, is a powerful tool when you’re trying to reach and resonate with your target audience. You want to speak their language.</p><p>This means doing some market research to learn industry terms and how they’re used. This will also tell you a lot about what your audience cares about. And when you get it right, you’ll know. Your engagement will rise and so will your ROI.</p><p>This is what we’re talking about on today’s episode with JP Lespinasse, VP of Brand Marketing at Lightcast. JP and the Remarkable team are watching FX’s <i>The Bear</i>. Together, we’re talking about speaking the language of your audience, serving your audience what they crave, using familiar story recipes, and much, much more. So make yourself a sandwich and tuck in for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, JP Lespinasse</strong></p><p>JP Lespinasse is VP of Brand Marketing at Lightcast. He has over 25 years of marketing, communications and partnerships experience. Previously, he served as Head of Content Marketing at PayPal and Executive: Director of Content Strategy and Management at IBM. He has also worked at companies like Gap/Old Navy, NOKIA, and the NBA.</p><p><strong>About Lightcast</strong></p><p><a href="https://joshbersin.com/2023/05/lightcast-the-switzerland-of-the-global-skillstech-market/#:~:text=Lightcast%2C%20which%20is%20the%20merger,occupational%20data%20in%20the%20world.">Lightcast</a>, which is the merger of Emsi and BurningGlass, is the largest integrated data provider of jobs, skills, roles, and occupational data in the world.</p><p>They are a global pioneer in the collection and big-data analysis of information on the labor market. Their data provides the world’s most detailed information about occupations, skills in demand, and career pathways. </p><p>Their tools collect real-time data from over 40,000 sources every day, contributing to a database with over 1 billion job postings and billions of other data points. They combine that with curated input from dozens of other statistical sources, like government agencies, to provide the most complete view possible of the fast-changing labor market. They put that information to work for businesses, communities, and education providers by showing them the granular details and big-picture trends they need in their organizations.</p><p>Whether you’re interested in software salaries in Seattle, need new skills in New Zealand, or looking for anything in between, Lightcast data can provide the insight you need.</p><p><strong>About </strong><i><strong>The Bear</strong></i></p><p>The Bear is a show about an award-winning chef who leaves his Michelin star restaurant to go back to his hometown after his brother passes away to take over his brother’s sandwich shop. And so while struggling to keep the rowdy staff and messy kitchen running, he’s also trying to process and grieve his brother’s suicide. A lot of people who have worked in food service have said it’s a realistic depiction of what it’s actually like running a professional kitchen. At any moment it feels like it’s going to all fall apart, and it deals with the health inspections, payroll, dirty floors, plumbing and all of the tiny details that make it seem real. It stars Jeremy Allen White as “Carmy” Berzatto, Ebon Moss-Bachrach as the restaurant manager, Ayo Edibiri as the new sous chef, and more. The show was created by Christopher Storer for FX and has two seasons out on Hulu. The first season received 13 Emmy nominations including outstanding comedy series.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>The Bear</strong></i><strong>: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Serve your audience what they crave.</strong> Do research to understand their wants and needs. Then aim for continuous improvement. In <i>The Bear, </i>JP says that the main character, Carmi, knows that he can’t keep making Michelin star-level food when he takes over his brother’s sandwich shop. The customers just want the sandwich they know and love from The Beef. JP says, “For us as marketers and for Carmi and the staff at The Beef, it’s so important that in those first few episodes, it wasn't about changing anything. It was just about really focusing and listening and understanding the audience. What do they want? What do they come back for? How do I continue to serve them that?” This is especially true for marketers joining a new company where you see room for improvement. Don’t try to change everything at once. But make small changes along the way that will raise the quality of your output without alienating customers.</li><li><strong>Use familiar story recipes. </strong>We know the rags to riches, or in this case, riches to rags storytelling recipe. Because it works. Using these known recipes reels in your audience more easily because it feels familiar. It’s something they can immediately relate to. Yet it doesn’t mean the rest of the story is formulaic or that the ending is obvious. It’s just a place to start and hook your audience. Plus twists and turns in the storyline later will be even more of a surprise. When it comes to <i>The Bear, </i>Ian says, “Everybody and their brother has been to Chicago. And everyone has been to a sandwich shop in Chicago. So this idea that is so familiar, which is like, ‘Person moves back home to Chicago and takes over a sandwich shop, even though they're Michelin star.’ We just all immediately are like, ‘Okay, I've been to a sandwich shop in Chicago and I totally know how that feels.’” </li><li><strong>Make it feel real by showing the good, the bad and the meh. </strong>You will speak most effectively to marketers by acknowledging the less glamorous and even mundane parts of their job. JP said it best when he said <i>The Bear</i> “took off because all of these folks who had worked at restaurants were like, ‘Yep, that's exactly how it is.’ It's just so important to speak authentically to your audience.” And Ian adds, “If you don't really care, if you want to do the <i>Grey's Anatomy</i> version of it, right? Like, that's fine too, and it probably will be really commercially successful. But you won't get the diehards. And in today's day and age where the diehards are so vocal, it's a much more valuable currency to get the little details right.” So <i>The Bear </i>doesn’t shy away from the feeling of losing sense of time when you’re in the weeds, swamped with orders, or the payroll, plumbing, and no-shows. That’s why it resonates.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Marketers sometimes do ourselves a disservice. You’ve written 17 drafts of this webpage before it goes up. And so by the time it goes up, you're sick of it. And you're ready to change it immediately. The audience has never seen it before, right? The average person who comes to a webpage, they stay for a minute and a half, right? Like, so they're not going deep into all the individual words, the pictures and how you've architected it. So just let it sit. Let it breathe.” - JP Lespinasse</p><p>*”Back when I worked at IBM, we canceled and reworked a whole campaign because we'd done all this due diligence and were going to put some messaging out to the developer audience. And then at the last minute, we're like, ‘You know what? We should show this to some developers before we put it out into the world.’ And so we invited them over for pizza and a chat, and they're like, ‘Yeah, that's not how we talk. That's how the movies show how we talk, but that's not really authentically how we talk.’ And so we used all their feedback to rework the campaign.” - JP Lespinasse</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:54] Meet JP Lespinasse, VP of Brand Marketing at Lightcast</p><p>[1:23] What’s remarkable about <i>The Bear</i>?</p><p>[4:26] What does JP do at Lightcast?</p><p>[7:54] What’s <i>The Bear</i> about?</p><p>[20:11] How was <i>The Bear </i>created? Learn about its backstory.</p><p>[26:03] What B2B marketing lessons can we take from <i>The Bear?</i></p><p>[30:57] How can you elevate your brand?</p><p>[33:01] Why is it important to understand the language of your audience?</p><p>[44:09] How does JP approach the challenge of measuring ROI in content and brand?</p><p>[55:58] What role does brand play in B2B?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.hulu.com/series/05eb6a8e-90ed-4947-8c0b-e6536cbddd5f">Watch The Bear</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jplespinasse/">Connect with JP on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://lightcast.io/">Learn more about Lightcast</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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This means doing some market research to learn industry terms and how they’re used. This will also tell you a lot about what your audience cares about. And when you get it right, you’ll know. Your engagement will rise and so will your ROI.

This is what we’re talking about on today’s episode with JP Lespinasse, VP of Brand Marketing at Lightcast. JP and the Remarkable team are watching FX’s The Bear. Together, we’re talking about speaking the language of your audience, serving your audience what they crave, using familiar story recipes, and much, much more. So make yourself a sandwich and tuck in for this episode of Remarkable.</itunes:summary>
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This means doing some market research to learn industry terms and how they’re used. This will also tell you a lot about what your audience cares about. And when you get it right, you’ll know. Your engagement will rise and so will your ROI.

This is what we’re talking about on today’s episode with JP Lespinasse, VP of Brand Marketing at Lightcast. JP and the Remarkable team are watching FX’s The Bear. Together, we’re talking about speaking the language of your audience, serving your audience what they crave, using familiar story recipes, and much, much more. So make yourself a sandwich and tuck in for this episode of Remarkable.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Selling to multiple customer personas is tricky. Can your marketing appeal to all of them at once? </p><p>You probably think, “Well, each persona has different pain points and things they care about.” But once you start thinking about all of the personas as just being people, you realize that they do care about the same things. Success at work, their family, and their quality of life, to name a few. So when you can appeal to the things your prospects care about most, you unlock the secret to creating an emotional bond with your audience that will place you above your competitors.</p><p>To explore this idea, we’re watching the hit animated series that The Guardian called, "arguably the best television series in the world," <i>Bluey. </i>It appeals to parents just as well as kids. And is a great example of how to market to multiple customer personas. Here with us is content master Nate Bagley to help discuss evoking strong emotions in your marketing, captivating your audience with relatable stories, and how to build trust to propel sales. Now it’s time to tap into that inner child for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Nate Bagley</strong></p><p>Nate Bagley is a content leader who has served in media and marketing roles at companies like Clozd, OrangeSoda, Mindshare Technologies, Romacorp, and Bold Academy. He founded relationship coaching company Growth Marriage in 2017, co-founded “date-in-a-box” subscription service Unbox Love in 2014, and started a podcast called Loveumentary in 2012.</p><p><strong>About </strong><i><strong>Bluey</strong></i></p><p><i>Bluey</i> is an Australian animated tv series about the daily life of a blue heeler cattle puppy and her friends and family. As blue heelers are known as super energetic dogs, Bluey is always turning things into an adventure and using her imagination to do it.</p><p>It premiered in 2018 and is currently on its third season, and was created by Joe Brumm. It stars the voices of David McCormack as the dad and Melanie Zanetti as the mom. Bluey, Bingo, and some of their friends aren’t credited because they’re voiced by children of the TV production crew, and it’s to protect their identities.</p><p>It’s the #1 Australian children’s TV show, Nominated for the 2023 Logie Award for Most Outstanding Children’s Program. 2022 AACTA Award winner for Best Children's Program. 2019 International Emmy winner for Kids: Preschool. The Guardian has called it "arguably the best television series in the world".</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>Bluey</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Tap into emotion.</strong> Think of your audience as human, and appeal to their very human needs, wants and desires. It could be that your product saves them time to go enjoy more family time, time outside, or time doing literally anything other than working. Appeal to that. Nate says, “”In marketing, emotion is the number one tool that we have to use. I think especially in B2B marketing, it's probably the most underutilized tool, is trying to elicit some sort of emotion in the content that you create.” And <i>Bluey</i> does this by exploring real life situations like a boy who has ADHD and struggles with sitting still in school all day, or Bluey’s dad making a mistake and feeling inadequate as a father. B2B marketing isn’t for robots; use emotion and see engagement hit the ceiling.</li><li><strong>Make it quick.</strong> Boil your story down to create maximum impact in a short amount of time. <i>Bluey</i> episodes are a few minutes at most. Which makes them insanely digestible, and they still draw tears from parents watching with their kids. Of course, this masterful storytelling isn’t easy to do. Nate says, “How can you tell the most compelling story that evokes the most emotion in the most efficient way possible? And that requires a lot of work.  I don't think most people are willing to do that work. I think it's much easier to write out a list of features on your website and say, ‘This is how we can help you.’ But the alternative is more powerful.” Spending time to craft a campaign that tells your story efficiently and with emotion pays off.</li><li><strong>Show that you understand your audience to earn their trust.</strong> Research your target buyer to figure out what they care about. Then leverage that in your marketing as a powerful trust-building tool. Nate says, “If you can describe the problem, the life, the struggles that your buyers are facing better than they can describe it themselves, they will automatically assume that you have the best solution. Having that empathy and understanding, and being able to communicate that back to them through your marketing messaging is going to accelerate the buying process and help you win business faster than anything else that you can do.” It’s like how parents have learned to trust <i>Bluey </i>to thoughtfully explore real life topics in a compassionate way that children will understand. So when kids want to watch something, <i>Bluey </i>is not just a safe option, but an educational one as well. <i>Bluey </i>then becomes an easy go-to. Just like your product will be.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Accounting, a great example. Accounting might be boring,  but accountants are not, because accountants are people. And people are not boring if you ask them the right questions. If you're trying to sell accounting, then you're going to fail. But if you're trying to solve a problem for accountants and you do a really good job understanding them, understanding what they're struggling with and what they want out of life, and you have empathy for their situation as an accountant, then you can find some really compelling stories to tell. But it's curiosity about the people that creates the good story. It's not what the people do. It's not the activity that's interesting in and of itself.” - Nate Bagley</p><p>*”Focus. Focus more of your time and energy on learning how to tell good stories, and learning how to tell good stories in a really powerful way that evokes emotion and makes people feel understood and seen. And they'll trust that you have exactly what they need to take away the pain or increase the rate of success around what they're doing on a day to day basis.” - Nate Bagley</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:50] Introducing Content Leader Nate Bagley</p><p>[1:22] What makes <i>Bluey </i>impactful?</p><p>[3:33] What’s <i>Bluey</i> about?</p><p>[7:45] Why is <i>Bluey</i> Remarkable?</p><p>[10:54] What B2B Marketing lessons can we take from <i>Bluey</i>?</p><p>[20:06] How does <i>Bluey</i> use emotion?</p><p>[26:03] How can we applying <i>Bluey</i>'s storytelling techniques in marketing?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.bluey.tv/watch/">Watch Bluey</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/natebagley/">Connect with Nate on LinkedIn</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino and Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Selling to multiple customer personas is tricky. Can your marketing appeal to all of them at once? </p><p>You probably think, “Well, each persona has different pain points and things they care about.” But once you start thinking about all of the personas as just being people, you realize that they do care about the same things. Success at work, their family, and their quality of life, to name a few. So when you can appeal to the things your prospects care about most, you unlock the secret to creating an emotional bond with your audience that will place you above your competitors.</p><p>To explore this idea, we’re watching the hit animated series that The Guardian called, "arguably the best television series in the world," <i>Bluey. </i>It appeals to parents just as well as kids. And is a great example of how to market to multiple customer personas. Here with us is content master Nate Bagley to help discuss evoking strong emotions in your marketing, captivating your audience with relatable stories, and how to build trust to propel sales. Now it’s time to tap into that inner child for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Nate Bagley</strong></p><p>Nate Bagley is a content leader who has served in media and marketing roles at companies like Clozd, OrangeSoda, Mindshare Technologies, Romacorp, and Bold Academy. He founded relationship coaching company Growth Marriage in 2017, co-founded “date-in-a-box” subscription service Unbox Love in 2014, and started a podcast called Loveumentary in 2012.</p><p><strong>About </strong><i><strong>Bluey</strong></i></p><p><i>Bluey</i> is an Australian animated tv series about the daily life of a blue heeler cattle puppy and her friends and family. 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I think it's much easier to write out a list of features on your website and say, ‘This is how we can help you.’ But the alternative is more powerful.” Spending time to craft a campaign that tells your story efficiently and with emotion pays off.</li><li><strong>Show that you understand your audience to earn their trust.</strong> Research your target buyer to figure out what they care about. Then leverage that in your marketing as a powerful trust-building tool. Nate says, “If you can describe the problem, the life, the struggles that your buyers are facing better than they can describe it themselves, they will automatically assume that you have the best solution. Having that empathy and understanding, and being able to communicate that back to them through your marketing messaging is going to accelerate the buying process and help you win business faster than anything else that you can do.” It’s like how parents have learned to trust <i>Bluey </i>to thoughtfully explore real life topics in a compassionate way that children will understand. So when kids want to watch something, <i>Bluey </i>is not just a safe option, but an educational one as well. <i>Bluey </i>then becomes an easy go-to. Just like your product will be.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Accounting, a great example. Accounting might be boring,  but accountants are not, because accountants are people. And people are not boring if you ask them the right questions. If you're trying to sell accounting, then you're going to fail. But if you're trying to solve a problem for accountants and you do a really good job understanding them, understanding what they're struggling with and what they want out of life, and you have empathy for their situation as an accountant, then you can find some really compelling stories to tell. But it's curiosity about the people that creates the good story. It's not what the people do. It's not the activity that's interesting in and of itself.” - Nate Bagley</p><p>*”Focus. Focus more of your time and energy on learning how to tell good stories, and learning how to tell good stories in a really powerful way that evokes emotion and makes people feel understood and seen. And they'll trust that you have exactly what they need to take away the pain or increase the rate of success around what they're doing on a day to day basis.” - Nate Bagley</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:50] Introducing Content Leader Nate Bagley</p><p>[1:22] What makes <i>Bluey </i>impactful?</p><p>[3:33] What’s <i>Bluey</i> about?</p><p>[7:45] Why is <i>Bluey</i> Remarkable?</p><p>[10:54] What B2B Marketing lessons can we take from <i>Bluey</i>?</p><p>[20:06] How does <i>Bluey</i> use emotion?</p><p>[26:03] How can we applying <i>Bluey</i>'s storytelling techniques in marketing?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.bluey.tv/watch/">Watch Bluey</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/natebagley/">Connect with Nate on LinkedIn</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. 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To explore this idea, we’re watching the hit animated series that The Guardian called, &quot;arguably the best television series in the world,&quot; Bluey. It appeals to parents just as well as kids. And is a great example of how to market to multiple customer personas. Here with us is content master Nate Bagley to help discuss evoking strong emotions in your marketing, captivating your audience with relatable stories, and how to build trust to propel sales. Now it’s time to tap into that inner child for this episode of Remarkable. </itunes:summary>
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You probably think, “Well, each persona has different pain points and things they care about.” But once you start thinking about all of the personas as just being people, you realize that they do care about the same things. Success at work, their family, and their quality of life, to name a few. So when you can appeal to the things your prospects care about most, you unlock the secret to creating an emotional bond with your audience that will place you above your competitors.

To explore this idea, we’re watching the hit animated series that The Guardian called, &quot;arguably the best television series in the world,&quot; Bluey. It appeals to parents just as well as kids. And is a great example of how to market to multiple customer personas. Here with us is content master Nate Bagley to help discuss evoking strong emotions in your marketing, captivating your audience with relatable stories, and how to build trust to propel sales. Now it’s time to tap into that inner child for this episode of Remarkable. </itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Marketers are trained to create targeted content for specific personas. But creating a message that’s open to interpretation is a highly effective strategy that strikes a cord across personas.</p><p>Because your audience will fill in the blank with how the message is meaningful for them. So instead of speaking to pain points specific to one role, speak to the human pain points. Maybe your product is a solution for a task that takes too much time or is overly complex, for example. Nobody likes feeling like they’re wasting too much of their workday on one task. So talk about how your product saves time or simplifies their work. </p><p>So in this episode of Remarkable, we’re listening to Zach Bryan’s song, “Something in the Orange,” the hit song that resonates with a wide range of listeners. That’s because Zach Bryan’s lyrics are open to interpretation. And we’re talking with Todd Raphael, Head of Content at SkyHive, about how you can use this strategy in your content marketing to resonate with a wider audience. We’ll also cover the best time to brainstorm content ideas and why you could easily double your output with one simple idea. So grab your cowboy hat and stare off into the sunset while you listen to this episode of Remarkable. </p><p><strong>About our guest, Todd Raphael</strong></p><p>Todd Raphael is Head of Content at SkyHive, a cloud-based workforce management and reskilling software provider. Todd joined SkyHive in November 2022. He previously served as Head of Content at eightfold.ai. He also worked as Editor in Chief at ERE Media for over 14 years, and prior to that, Online Editor at Workforce.</p><p><strong>About SkyHive</strong></p><p>Recognized as a top AI innovation by Forbes, a Gartner Cool Vendor in HCM, and a World Economic Forum Technology Pioneer, SkyHive is cognifying the world’s labor economy and fundamentally changing how we work, learn, and live. SkyHive has built the world’s only Quantum Labor Analysis platform to optimize human economies in real-time for companies, communities, and countries. Essential to global economic empowerment, SkyHive allows people to future-proof themselves and their workforce faster than ever before. By marrying economic theory with workforce modeling and human analytics, SkyHive illuminates the reskilling journey and builds a capable and future-proof workforce that closes the skills gap with speed and efficiency unleashing human potential for individuals, organizations, and governments. SkyHive supports customers across all industries and geographies globally, and is focused on strengthening the overall economic resilience of workforces and communities.</p><p><strong>About “Something in the Orange” by Zach Bryan</strong></p><p>“Something in the Orange” is a song by American singer-songwriter Zach Bryan, a 25-year-old from Oologah, Oklahoma. Zach Bryan started writing music when he was 14, and putting it online when he was still serving in the Navy. His song “Heading South” ended up going viral after he posted a video of himself playing it on TikTok. He has two self-released albums, DeAnn and Elisabeth, and is now signed to Warner Records. His first studio album, American Heartbreak, debuted at number five on the US Billboard 200 with over 70,000 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Album-equivalent_unit">album-equivalent units</a>. The 34-song triple album has been certified Platinum as of June 2023, with over 1 million units sold.</p><p>“Something in the Orange” was Bryan’s first charting single. He told Today’s Country Radio that the song wasn’t about <a href="https://www.whiskeyriff.com/2023/07/11/zach-bryan-says-something-in-the-orange-wasnt-about-some-deep-dark-thing-just-me-in-a-cabin-in-wisconsin/">“some deep, dark thing.”</a> He came up with the idea while sitting in a cabin in Wisconsin watching the sun set. It’s now <a href="https://www.whiskeyriff.com/2023/06/02/zach-bryans-american-heartbreak-is-officially-certified-platinum-and-something-in-the-orange-is-4x-platinum/">certified 4x Platinum</a>.</p><p>His video for “Something in the Orange” starts with a message, saying, “Thousands of videos were submitted by my listeners for the video of Something in the Orange. I decided to make this myself because it’s a feeling I know we’ve all shared at some point. Thank you guys for contributing and thank you guys for listening.” His idea to crowdsource videos reflects an appreciation of his fans, a sharing of energy, and a homegrown, grassroots effort true to his roots and the nature of country music. The video is a compilation of sunset videos taken by fans.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From “Something in the Orange”:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Leave room for interpretation in your marketing message to resonate with a wider audience. </strong>Create a marketing message that lets your audience fill in the gaps. “Our tool saves you time to do more of what you love.” Could mean spending time with loved ones, walking their dog, doing a hobby…your message doesn’t have to be specific to strike a nerve. Todd says when he was looking at comments on Zach Bryan’s video for “Something in the Orange, “the song means all of these different things to different people. It's a song about their grandma. It's a song about their dog. It's a song about their ex-boyfriend. It's all these different things.” So let your marketing speak to multiple personas by leaving room for the imagination.</li><li><strong>Create two versions of your content. </strong>One is the typical kind of B2B, serious, technical content. The other is conversational and human. Both can be your brand voice. Ian says, “We make content and we write it in a certain way, in a certain language and a certain approach. And then we just say, ‘Well, this is our brand voice,’ as if that's how everybody just automatically wants to read stuff. You could get way more mileage by creating a second version of that same piece of content and writing it in an extremely conversational, approachable voice that's actually tied to a human being.” Zach Bryan wrote two versions of “Something in the Orange,” So create a second, conversational version to humanize your brand.</li><li><strong>Brainstorm content when you’re doing everyday routine tasks.</strong> Todd says it’s when people do their best thinking. He says, “We're walking the dog, we're riding a bike, we're doing something that's mindless and repetitive. It's always when we think of our best ideas. It's never during a brainstorming meeting.” Zach Bryan was sitting at a campfire when he wrote “Something in the Orange,” and it’s during that contemplative time that the lyrics came to him easily. So take notes when you’re out and about, and have a great idea for content.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”We choose the words for what words work best for SEO, instead of what emotions we want to provoke. People used to think of two different audiences, right? It was like pain avoiders and pleasure seekers.  Like, this car will keep you safe, versus this car is so much fun and so cool. And I think maybe sometimes we get away from that.” - Todd Raphael</p><p>*”There's a lot of B2B content that is just done one cookie cutter way. And we always talk about repurposing for a different medium. But some people want the creative to feel different, to read differently.” - Ian Faison</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Todd Raphael, Head of Content at SkyHive</p><p>[1:36] What’s Zach Bryan's song 'Something in the Orange' about?</p><p>[2:39] What does Todd do at SkyHive?</p><p>[4:10] Learn more about Zach Bryan's musical journey</p><p>[8:01] What was the impact of 'Something in the Orange'?</p><p>[11:30] How can you harness the power of storytelling in marketing?</p><p>[24:00] What’s the content strategy at SkyHive?</p><p>[29:08] How does Todd prove the ROI of content?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/3WMj8moIAXJhHsyLaqIIHI?si=5a503803251d4a9e">Listen to “Something in the Orange”</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA8F9sIhGdg">Watch the music video</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddraphael/">Connect with Todd on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.skyhive.ai/">Learn more about SkyHive</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marketers are trained to create targeted content for specific personas. But creating a message that’s open to interpretation is a highly effective strategy that strikes a cord across personas.</p><p>Because your audience will fill in the blank with how the message is meaningful for them. So instead of speaking to pain points specific to one role, speak to the human pain points. Maybe your product is a solution for a task that takes too much time or is overly complex, for example. Nobody likes feeling like they’re wasting too much of their workday on one task. So talk about how your product saves time or simplifies their work. </p><p>So in this episode of Remarkable, we’re listening to Zach Bryan’s song, “Something in the Orange,” the hit song that resonates with a wide range of listeners. That’s because Zach Bryan’s lyrics are open to interpretation. And we’re talking with Todd Raphael, Head of Content at SkyHive, about how you can use this strategy in your content marketing to resonate with a wider audience. We’ll also cover the best time to brainstorm content ideas and why you could easily double your output with one simple idea. So grab your cowboy hat and stare off into the sunset while you listen to this episode of Remarkable. </p><p><strong>About our guest, Todd Raphael</strong></p><p>Todd Raphael is Head of Content at SkyHive, a cloud-based workforce management and reskilling software provider. Todd joined SkyHive in November 2022. He previously served as Head of Content at eightfold.ai. He also worked as Editor in Chief at ERE Media for over 14 years, and prior to that, Online Editor at Workforce.</p><p><strong>About SkyHive</strong></p><p>Recognized as a top AI innovation by Forbes, a Gartner Cool Vendor in HCM, and a World Economic Forum Technology Pioneer, SkyHive is cognifying the world’s labor economy and fundamentally changing how we work, learn, and live. SkyHive has built the world’s only Quantum Labor Analysis platform to optimize human economies in real-time for companies, communities, and countries. Essential to global economic empowerment, SkyHive allows people to future-proof themselves and their workforce faster than ever before. By marrying economic theory with workforce modeling and human analytics, SkyHive illuminates the reskilling journey and builds a capable and future-proof workforce that closes the skills gap with speed and efficiency unleashing human potential for individuals, organizations, and governments. SkyHive supports customers across all industries and geographies globally, and is focused on strengthening the overall economic resilience of workforces and communities.</p><p><strong>About “Something in the Orange” by Zach Bryan</strong></p><p>“Something in the Orange” is a song by American singer-songwriter Zach Bryan, a 25-year-old from Oologah, Oklahoma. Zach Bryan started writing music when he was 14, and putting it online when he was still serving in the Navy. His song “Heading South” ended up going viral after he posted a video of himself playing it on TikTok. He has two self-released albums, DeAnn and Elisabeth, and is now signed to Warner Records. His first studio album, American Heartbreak, debuted at number five on the US Billboard 200 with over 70,000 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Album-equivalent_unit">album-equivalent units</a>. The 34-song triple album has been certified Platinum as of June 2023, with over 1 million units sold.</p><p>“Something in the Orange” was Bryan’s first charting single. He told Today’s Country Radio that the song wasn’t about <a href="https://www.whiskeyriff.com/2023/07/11/zach-bryan-says-something-in-the-orange-wasnt-about-some-deep-dark-thing-just-me-in-a-cabin-in-wisconsin/">“some deep, dark thing.”</a> He came up with the idea while sitting in a cabin in Wisconsin watching the sun set. It’s now <a href="https://www.whiskeyriff.com/2023/06/02/zach-bryans-american-heartbreak-is-officially-certified-platinum-and-something-in-the-orange-is-4x-platinum/">certified 4x Platinum</a>.</p><p>His video for “Something in the Orange” starts with a message, saying, “Thousands of videos were submitted by my listeners for the video of Something in the Orange. I decided to make this myself because it’s a feeling I know we’ve all shared at some point. Thank you guys for contributing and thank you guys for listening.” His idea to crowdsource videos reflects an appreciation of his fans, a sharing of energy, and a homegrown, grassroots effort true to his roots and the nature of country music. The video is a compilation of sunset videos taken by fans.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From “Something in the Orange”:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Leave room for interpretation in your marketing message to resonate with a wider audience. </strong>Create a marketing message that lets your audience fill in the gaps. “Our tool saves you time to do more of what you love.” Could mean spending time with loved ones, walking their dog, doing a hobby…your message doesn’t have to be specific to strike a nerve. Todd says when he was looking at comments on Zach Bryan’s video for “Something in the Orange, “the song means all of these different things to different people. It's a song about their grandma. It's a song about their dog. It's a song about their ex-boyfriend. It's all these different things.” So let your marketing speak to multiple personas by leaving room for the imagination.</li><li><strong>Create two versions of your content. </strong>One is the typical kind of B2B, serious, technical content. The other is conversational and human. Both can be your brand voice. Ian says, “We make content and we write it in a certain way, in a certain language and a certain approach. And then we just say, ‘Well, this is our brand voice,’ as if that's how everybody just automatically wants to read stuff. You could get way more mileage by creating a second version of that same piece of content and writing it in an extremely conversational, approachable voice that's actually tied to a human being.” Zach Bryan wrote two versions of “Something in the Orange,” So create a second, conversational version to humanize your brand.</li><li><strong>Brainstorm content when you’re doing everyday routine tasks.</strong> Todd says it’s when people do their best thinking. He says, “We're walking the dog, we're riding a bike, we're doing something that's mindless and repetitive. It's always when we think of our best ideas. It's never during a brainstorming meeting.” Zach Bryan was sitting at a campfire when he wrote “Something in the Orange,” and it’s during that contemplative time that the lyrics came to him easily. So take notes when you’re out and about, and have a great idea for content.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”We choose the words for what words work best for SEO, instead of what emotions we want to provoke. People used to think of two different audiences, right? It was like pain avoiders and pleasure seekers.  Like, this car will keep you safe, versus this car is so much fun and so cool. And I think maybe sometimes we get away from that.” - Todd Raphael</p><p>*”There's a lot of B2B content that is just done one cookie cutter way. And we always talk about repurposing for a different medium. But some people want the creative to feel different, to read differently.” - Ian Faison</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:55] Meet Todd Raphael, Head of Content at SkyHive</p><p>[1:36] What’s Zach Bryan's song 'Something in the Orange' about?</p><p>[2:39] What does Todd do at SkyHive?</p><p>[4:10] Learn more about Zach Bryan's musical journey</p><p>[8:01] What was the impact of 'Something in the Orange'?</p><p>[11:30] How can you harness the power of storytelling in marketing?</p><p>[24:00] What’s the content strategy at SkyHive?</p><p>[29:08] How does Todd prove the ROI of content?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/3WMj8moIAXJhHsyLaqIIHI?si=5a503803251d4a9e">Listen to “Something in the Orange”</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA8F9sIhGdg">Watch the music video</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddraphael/">Connect with Todd on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.skyhive.ai/">Learn more about SkyHive</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>Marketers are trained to create targeted content for specific personas. But creating a message that’s open to interpretation is a highly effective strategy that strikes a cord across personas.

Because your audience will fill in the blank with how the message is meaningful for them. So instead of speaking to pain points specific to one role, speak to the human pain points. Maybe your product is a solution for a task that takes too much time or is overly complex. Nobody likes feeling like they’re wasting too much of their workday on one task. So talk about how your product saves time or simplifies their work. 

So in this episode of Remarkable, we’re listening to Zach Bryan’s song, “Something in the Orange,” the hit song that resonates with a wide range of listeners. That’s because Zach Bryan’s lyrics are open to interpretation. And we’re talking with Todd Raphael, Head of Content at SkyHive, about how you can use this strategy in your content marketing to resonate with a wider audience. We’ll also cover the best time to brainstorm content ideas and why you could easily double your output with one simple idea. So grab your cowboy hat and stare off into the sunset while you listen to this episode of Remarkable. </itunes:summary>
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So in this episode of Remarkable, we’re listening to Zach Bryan’s song, “Something in the Orange,” the hit song that resonates with a wide range of listeners. That’s because Zach Bryan’s lyrics are open to interpretation. And we’re talking with Todd Raphael, Head of Content at SkyHive, about how you can use this strategy in your content marketing to resonate with a wider audience. We’ll also cover the best time to brainstorm content ideas and why you could easily double your output with one simple idea. So grab your cowboy hat and stare off into the sunset while you listen to this episode of Remarkable. </itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>B2B marketers aren’t creating serialized content. But you should be. </p><p>We felt so strongly about this that we literally wrote a book about it. Well, not “we”. Ian wrote it. And we’re sharing key insights from that book with you in this episode of Remarkable. </p><p>Because you, the B2B marketer, could be capitalizing on a more efficient content strategy proven to boost sales and improve ROI. Stop making one-off pieces of content. Make a series and make marketing not only easier and more productive for you, but more bingeable and more addictive for your audience.</p><p>So tune in for an exclusive sneak peak of <i>The Serialized Content Framework</i>, by Ian Faison, CEO of Caspian Studios. And get ideas churning for your next new content series. This episode is going to revolutionize the way you do content marketing.</p><p><strong>About Ian Faison</strong></p><p>Ian Faison is CEO of Caspian Studios, a video podcast-as-a-service company. Ian founded Caspian Studios to help CMOs and marketing teams to create world-class podcasts and video series. Caspian Studios now produces and manages over 60 podcasts and video series across a variety of industries.</p><p><strong>About the</strong><i><strong> Serialized Content Framework</strong></i></p><p>The <i>Serialized Content Framework</i> is an ebook three years in the making, written by Ian Faison, CEO of Caspian Studios. It answers the questions:</p><ol><li>Where is B2B marketing headed?</li><li>How is Hollywood-style storytelling evolving?</li><li>How do you drive pipeline from B2B content?</li></ol><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From the </strong><i><strong>Serialized Content Framework</strong></i><strong>: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Series>one-off pieces of content.</strong> You spend so much more brain power trying to come up with the newest, freshest material for every single piece of content than in creating a formula for a content series. Series are a more productive, more efficient use of your marketing team’s time and resources. Ian says that content powerhouses like Disney, Mattel and Marvel are capitalizing on this tactic. He says, “Each of these franchises is multiple seasons. It's multiple episodes within a season. And a lot of times they have other types of shows that are similar in either format, characters or universe. Then you get to market the entire franchise and your marketing is more productive over time.” B2B companies should do the same to multiply productivity and ultimately revenue.</li><li><strong>Don’t always try to sell to your audience.</strong> 95% of the time, people are not in buying mode. They don’t want to be sold to. So instead, continually and consistently put quality content where your audience is. Ian says, “You want to create really good, really impactful content in that 95% of the time so that when they go into the research phase, they're already thinking of you and you're already top of mind.” This is why top of funnel content is important. Because it builds brand awareness and affinity that leads to sales.</li><li><strong>Niche down</strong>. Your product is not for everyone. It is for a specific persona. So create persona-driven content for greater impact. Ian says, “The more segmented and targeted on a specific persona, the better off [your content will] be. Look at industry, look at role, look at geography.” </li><li><strong>(And much, much more.)</strong></li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Serialized content is so important because it compounds. By the time you get to episode 40, 50 or 60, you have this valuable back catalog of content that has been working for a long time. As you continue to grow and expand with more and more episodes, all of that back catalog starts to perform even better over time. And you can cut it up to use as derivative content. ”</p><p>*”If you're creating serialized content, for example, a video podcast, and every single week a new episode comes out, this is something that is a consistent, repeatable process to drive brand gen. It is constantly fresh, but it also is evergreen, and it impacts various parts of the funnel.”</p><p>*”If serialized content is not nested right in your go to market, then it's never going to get approved, and it's never going to get any results. It's never going to get the support and the effort that it needs. So we need to make sure that this fits right into our go to market strategy.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[1:35] Part 1: What’s the <i>Serialized Content Framework </i>about?</p><p>[3:52] Part 2: How do you engage prospects who aren’t ready to buy yet?</p><p>[7:11] Part 3: Why should you niche down?</p><p>[15:33] Part 4: Where do series fit in your GTM?</p><p>[21:29] Part 5: How do you create a video podcast series?</p><p>[32:44] Part 6: How do you drive pipeline with a video podcast?</p><p>[43:46] Part 7: What KPIs should be you be tracking?</p><p>[50:54] Part 8: How does content shape community?</p><p>[53:50] Part 9: What are some examples of serialized content portfolios and video podcasts?</p><p>[55:20] Part 10: Advice and resources</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hSbeOH4wgQrXTF_WYq7DFqHwg0_Om_Eq/view?usp=sharing">Check out the <i>Serialized Content Framework</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ianfaison/">Connect with Ian on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">Learn more about Caspian Studios</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B2B marketers aren’t creating serialized content. But you should be. </p><p>We felt so strongly about this that we literally wrote a book about it. Well, not “we”. Ian wrote it. And we’re sharing key insights from that book with you in this episode of Remarkable. </p><p>Because you, the B2B marketer, could be capitalizing on a more efficient content strategy proven to boost sales and improve ROI. Stop making one-off pieces of content. Make a series and make marketing not only easier and more productive for you, but more bingeable and more addictive for your audience.</p><p>So tune in for an exclusive sneak peak of <i>The Serialized Content Framework</i>, by Ian Faison, CEO of Caspian Studios. And get ideas churning for your next new content series. This episode is going to revolutionize the way you do content marketing.</p><p><strong>About Ian Faison</strong></p><p>Ian Faison is CEO of Caspian Studios, a video podcast-as-a-service company. Ian founded Caspian Studios to help CMOs and marketing teams to create world-class podcasts and video series. Caspian Studios now produces and manages over 60 podcasts and video series across a variety of industries.</p><p><strong>About the</strong><i><strong> Serialized Content Framework</strong></i></p><p>The <i>Serialized Content Framework</i> is an ebook three years in the making, written by Ian Faison, CEO of Caspian Studios. It answers the questions:</p><ol><li>Where is B2B marketing headed?</li><li>How is Hollywood-style storytelling evolving?</li><li>How do you drive pipeline from B2B content?</li></ol><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From the </strong><i><strong>Serialized Content Framework</strong></i><strong>: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Series>one-off pieces of content.</strong> You spend so much more brain power trying to come up with the newest, freshest material for every single piece of content than in creating a formula for a content series. Series are a more productive, more efficient use of your marketing team’s time and resources. Ian says that content powerhouses like Disney, Mattel and Marvel are capitalizing on this tactic. He says, “Each of these franchises is multiple seasons. It's multiple episodes within a season. And a lot of times they have other types of shows that are similar in either format, characters or universe. Then you get to market the entire franchise and your marketing is more productive over time.” B2B companies should do the same to multiply productivity and ultimately revenue.</li><li><strong>Don’t always try to sell to your audience.</strong> 95% of the time, people are not in buying mode. They don’t want to be sold to. So instead, continually and consistently put quality content where your audience is. Ian says, “You want to create really good, really impactful content in that 95% of the time so that when they go into the research phase, they're already thinking of you and you're already top of mind.” This is why top of funnel content is important. Because it builds brand awareness and affinity that leads to sales.</li><li><strong>Niche down</strong>. Your product is not for everyone. It is for a specific persona. So create persona-driven content for greater impact. Ian says, “The more segmented and targeted on a specific persona, the better off [your content will] be. Look at industry, look at role, look at geography.” </li><li><strong>(And much, much more.)</strong></li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Serialized content is so important because it compounds. By the time you get to episode 40, 50 or 60, you have this valuable back catalog of content that has been working for a long time. As you continue to grow and expand with more and more episodes, all of that back catalog starts to perform even better over time. And you can cut it up to use as derivative content. ”</p><p>*”If you're creating serialized content, for example, a video podcast, and every single week a new episode comes out, this is something that is a consistent, repeatable process to drive brand gen. It is constantly fresh, but it also is evergreen, and it impacts various parts of the funnel.”</p><p>*”If serialized content is not nested right in your go to market, then it's never going to get approved, and it's never going to get any results. It's never going to get the support and the effort that it needs. So we need to make sure that this fits right into our go to market strategy.”</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[1:35] Part 1: What’s the <i>Serialized Content Framework </i>about?</p><p>[3:52] Part 2: How do you engage prospects who aren’t ready to buy yet?</p><p>[7:11] Part 3: Why should you niche down?</p><p>[15:33] Part 4: Where do series fit in your GTM?</p><p>[21:29] Part 5: How do you create a video podcast series?</p><p>[32:44] Part 6: How do you drive pipeline with a video podcast?</p><p>[43:46] Part 7: What KPIs should be you be tracking?</p><p>[50:54] Part 8: How does content shape community?</p><p>[53:50] Part 9: What are some examples of serialized content portfolios and video podcasts?</p><p>[55:20] Part 10: Advice and resources</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hSbeOH4wgQrXTF_WYq7DFqHwg0_Om_Eq/view?usp=sharing">Check out the <i>Serialized Content Framework</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ianfaison/">Connect with Ian on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">Learn more about Caspian Studios</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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Because you, the B2B marketer, could be capitalizing on a more efficient content strategy proven to boost sales and improve ROI. Stop making one-off pieces of content. Make a series and make marketing not only easier and more productive for you, but more bingeable and more addictive for your audience.

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Because you, the B2B marketer, could be capitalizing on a more efficient content strategy proven to boost sales and improve ROI. Stop making one-off pieces of content. Make a series and make marketing not only easier and more productive for you, but more bingeable and more addictive for your audience.

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      <description><![CDATA[<p>It’s easy to feel like you’re on your own lonely marketing island. You’re so focused on what you’re doing that your process starts to feel stale. Wouldn’t it be helpful to hear how other marketers are driving sales?</p><p>Especially if those marketers are at companies like G2, Deel and Gigster; successful names in B2B that know what works, and are pushing the envelope for what B2B content could look like. That’s what we’re bringing to you this week. </p><p>In this episode, we’re wrapping up Season 3 by highlighting the winning content strategies from top B2B brands. You’ll leave with new ideas and insights to use on your very next campaign. So all aboard, we’re getting you off that lonely island on this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guests</strong></p><p>Kim Courvoisier, Senior Director of Content Marketing at Lob</p><p>Gillian Jakob Kieser, Director of Content Marketing at CircleCI</p><p>Anja Simic, Director of Content Marketing at Deel</p><p>Martha Aviles, Vice President of Marketing at Gigster</p><p>Palmer Houchins, VP and Head of Marketing at G2</p><p>Meghan Barr, VP of Brand, Content and Communications at ZoomInfo</p><p>Johann Wrede, CEO at Emburse</p><p>Chris Sheen, Director of Content and Social at Celonis</p><p>Jérôme Robert, CMO and Chief of Staff at Tenable</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Season 3 of Remarkable:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Provide </strong><i><strong>some </strong></i><strong>free, valuable content to your audience.</strong> It proves that your product is worth the investment and helps you establish domain authority. Gillian Jakob Kieser, Director of Content Marketing at CircleCI says, “When we were smaller, we were really banking on utility. So we invested a lot in single pieces of content that people would share because there was nothing better than it. So once you saw it, you would have to pass it on. An example is our team open sourced our entire competency matrix and wrote about how we developed it. And that's a document that is like five years old and it's an open Google doc. Every time I go on there, there's still like 12 Anonymous Raptors on there using the content. And that was worth it because they've become tools. And that's been a great marketing strategy.”</li><li><strong>Create content for people at different points in the buying process. </strong>Your content should look different for people who are just exploring their options vs. people who are ready to make a purchase. Anja Simic, Director of Content Marketing at Deel says, “The readiness to purchase is very important when you think about content marketing.” She says you can think of it like the marketing funnel. “Top of the funnel content is informational, it's educational. It's a lot of articles or listicles, and lighter content. Closer to the middle of the funnel, your content needs to be a bit more product heavy. It needs to talk about specific solutions, specific questions that your prospects may have. But not all of it has to be salesy and pushy, because they're just considering. They're exploring their options. And then the very bottom of the funnel is where you really push them over the edge. They're really thinking about it. They're considering your product, and know enough about it.”</li><li><strong>Make something different. </strong>Get away from the B2B content formula. Jérôme Robert, CMO and Chief of Staff at Tenable says the risk in making something outside-the-box is overstated. He says, “Notably in an industry where marketing, the marketing practices are very mature and very identical from one company to another, there's very, very little downside in standing out, in doing something that is entirely different.” He says, “Worst case scenario, it’s not going to get a lot of engagement. But I don't think anyone would laugh at you or discard you as a company because you did something different. I think people respect the originality, the boldness, in doing something entirely different.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”A lot of what we think about with content marketing is how do we show a bit more of the heart behind what we do? How do we make us not just a brand, but show that there's a real company and people behind that? If you are choosing a provider, you're actually going to choose those guys, you're going to bet on them.” - Chris Sheen, Director of Content and Social at Celonis</p><p>*”Without trust, you can't do business. And today, buyers are really sophisticated. If we don't produce excellent content that genuinely seeks to inform, educate and help the customer, then they're just going to ignore it and they're going to go somewhere else. If you can create content that authentically seeks to inform and to add value, then you start to move into the trusted advisor quadrant.” - Johann Wrede, CEO at Emburse</p><p>*”We are all bombarded with content every day. And so we try to cut through the noise and provide content that can help our audience do their jobs better. That's the overarching goal of everything that we create.” - Meghan Barr, VP of Brand, Content and Communications at ZoomInfo</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:58] Introducing the Season 3 Roundup! Content strategies from…</p><p>[1:22] Kim Courvoisier from Lob</p><p>[2:38] Gillian Jakob Kieser of CircleCI</p><p>[4:38] Anja Simic of Deel</p><p>[7:17] Martha Aviles of Gigster</p><p>[8:28] Palmer Houchins of G2</p><p>[10:39] Meghan Barr of ZoomInfo</p><p>[12:09] Johann Wrede of Emburse</p><p>[16:44] Chris Sheen of Celonis</p><p>[19:37] Jérôme Robert of Tenable</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p>Listen to the full Season 3 episodes, featuring:</p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/remarkable-b2b-content-marketing/id1649812073?i=1000628602099">Kim Courvoisier</a>, Senior Director of Content Marketing at Lob</p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/remarkable-b2b-content-marketing/id1649812073?i=1000629350727">Gillian Jakob Kieser</a>, Director of Content Marketing at CircleCI</p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/remarkable-b2b-content-marketing/id1649812073?i=1000630087394">Anja Simic</a>, Director of Content Marketing at Deel</p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/remarkable-b2b-content-marketing/id1649812073?i=1000630349237">Martha Aviles</a>, Vice President of Marketing at Gigster</p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/remarkable-b2b-content-marketing/id1649812073?i=1000630953933">Palmer Houchins</a>, VP and Head of Marketing at G2</p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/remarkable-b2b-content-marketing/id1649812073?i=1000631066656">Meghan Barr</a>, VP of Brand, Content and Communications at ZoomInfo</p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/remarkable-b2b-content-marketing/id1649812073?i=1000632674870">Johann Wrede</a>, CEO at Emburse</p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/remarkable-b2b-content-marketing/id1649812073?i=1000631844207">Chris Sheen</a>, Director of Content and Social at Celonis</p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/remarkable-b2b-content-marketing/id1649812073?i=1000632808889">Jérôme Robert</a>, CMO and Chief of Staff at Tenable</p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Meredith Gooderham, Ian Faison, Scott Goodrich, Jerome Robert, Chris Sheen, Johann Wrede, Meghan Barr, Palmer Houchins, Martha Aviles, Anja Simic, Gillian Jakob Kieser, Kim Courvoisier)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s easy to feel like you’re on your own lonely marketing island. You’re so focused on what you’re doing that your process starts to feel stale. Wouldn’t it be helpful to hear how other marketers are driving sales?</p><p>Especially if those marketers are at companies like G2, Deel and Gigster; successful names in B2B that know what works, and are pushing the envelope for what B2B content could look like. That’s what we’re bringing to you this week. </p><p>In this episode, we’re wrapping up Season 3 by highlighting the winning content strategies from top B2B brands. You’ll leave with new ideas and insights to use on your very next campaign. So all aboard, we’re getting you off that lonely island on this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guests</strong></p><p>Kim Courvoisier, Senior Director of Content Marketing at Lob</p><p>Gillian Jakob Kieser, Director of Content Marketing at CircleCI</p><p>Anja Simic, Director of Content Marketing at Deel</p><p>Martha Aviles, Vice President of Marketing at Gigster</p><p>Palmer Houchins, VP and Head of Marketing at G2</p><p>Meghan Barr, VP of Brand, Content and Communications at ZoomInfo</p><p>Johann Wrede, CEO at Emburse</p><p>Chris Sheen, Director of Content and Social at Celonis</p><p>Jérôme Robert, CMO and Chief of Staff at Tenable</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Season 3 of Remarkable:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Provide </strong><i><strong>some </strong></i><strong>free, valuable content to your audience.</strong> It proves that your product is worth the investment and helps you establish domain authority. Gillian Jakob Kieser, Director of Content Marketing at CircleCI says, “When we were smaller, we were really banking on utility. So we invested a lot in single pieces of content that people would share because there was nothing better than it. So once you saw it, you would have to pass it on. An example is our team open sourced our entire competency matrix and wrote about how we developed it. And that's a document that is like five years old and it's an open Google doc. Every time I go on there, there's still like 12 Anonymous Raptors on there using the content. And that was worth it because they've become tools. And that's been a great marketing strategy.”</li><li><strong>Create content for people at different points in the buying process. </strong>Your content should look different for people who are just exploring their options vs. people who are ready to make a purchase. Anja Simic, Director of Content Marketing at Deel says, “The readiness to purchase is very important when you think about content marketing.” She says you can think of it like the marketing funnel. “Top of the funnel content is informational, it's educational. It's a lot of articles or listicles, and lighter content. Closer to the middle of the funnel, your content needs to be a bit more product heavy. It needs to talk about specific solutions, specific questions that your prospects may have. But not all of it has to be salesy and pushy, because they're just considering. They're exploring their options. And then the very bottom of the funnel is where you really push them over the edge. They're really thinking about it. They're considering your product, and know enough about it.”</li><li><strong>Make something different. </strong>Get away from the B2B content formula. Jérôme Robert, CMO and Chief of Staff at Tenable says the risk in making something outside-the-box is overstated. He says, “Notably in an industry where marketing, the marketing practices are very mature and very identical from one company to another, there's very, very little downside in standing out, in doing something that is entirely different.” He says, “Worst case scenario, it’s not going to get a lot of engagement. But I don't think anyone would laugh at you or discard you as a company because you did something different. I think people respect the originality, the boldness, in doing something entirely different.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”A lot of what we think about with content marketing is how do we show a bit more of the heart behind what we do? How do we make us not just a brand, but show that there's a real company and people behind that? If you are choosing a provider, you're actually going to choose those guys, you're going to bet on them.” - Chris Sheen, Director of Content and Social at Celonis</p><p>*”Without trust, you can't do business. And today, buyers are really sophisticated. If we don't produce excellent content that genuinely seeks to inform, educate and help the customer, then they're just going to ignore it and they're going to go somewhere else. If you can create content that authentically seeks to inform and to add value, then you start to move into the trusted advisor quadrant.” - Johann Wrede, CEO at Emburse</p><p>*”We are all bombarded with content every day. And so we try to cut through the noise and provide content that can help our audience do their jobs better. That's the overarching goal of everything that we create.” - Meghan Barr, VP of Brand, Content and Communications at ZoomInfo</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:58] Introducing the Season 3 Roundup! Content strategies from…</p><p>[1:22] Kim Courvoisier from Lob</p><p>[2:38] Gillian Jakob Kieser of CircleCI</p><p>[4:38] Anja Simic of Deel</p><p>[7:17] Martha Aviles of Gigster</p><p>[8:28] Palmer Houchins of G2</p><p>[10:39] Meghan Barr of ZoomInfo</p><p>[12:09] Johann Wrede of Emburse</p><p>[16:44] Chris Sheen of Celonis</p><p>[19:37] Jérôme Robert of Tenable</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p>Listen to the full Season 3 episodes, featuring:</p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/remarkable-b2b-content-marketing/id1649812073?i=1000628602099">Kim Courvoisier</a>, Senior Director of Content Marketing at Lob</p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/remarkable-b2b-content-marketing/id1649812073?i=1000629350727">Gillian Jakob Kieser</a>, Director of Content Marketing at CircleCI</p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/remarkable-b2b-content-marketing/id1649812073?i=1000630087394">Anja Simic</a>, Director of Content Marketing at Deel</p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/remarkable-b2b-content-marketing/id1649812073?i=1000630349237">Martha Aviles</a>, Vice President of Marketing at Gigster</p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/remarkable-b2b-content-marketing/id1649812073?i=1000630953933">Palmer Houchins</a>, VP and Head of Marketing at G2</p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/remarkable-b2b-content-marketing/id1649812073?i=1000631066656">Meghan Barr</a>, VP of Brand, Content and Communications at ZoomInfo</p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/remarkable-b2b-content-marketing/id1649812073?i=1000632674870">Johann Wrede</a>, CEO at Emburse</p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/remarkable-b2b-content-marketing/id1649812073?i=1000631844207">Chris Sheen</a>, Director of Content and Social at Celonis</p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/remarkable-b2b-content-marketing/id1649812073?i=1000632808889">Jérôme Robert</a>, CMO and Chief of Staff at Tenable</p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Hear us out. A children’s book, a novella, a fictional crime podcast, but make them B2B. </p><p>Because B2B marketing doesn’t have to be a webinar, a blog post, an email newsletter… Every B2B company does those. Today we’re challenging you to rise above the noise and make radically different content. </p><p>In this episode, we’re learning from a company that has created B2B content as all three: children’s book, novella, and fictional crime podcast. That company is Tenable. We’re chatting with their CMO and Chief of Staff, Jérôme Robert, about the art of creating fictional content that feels realistic, lived in, and resonates with your audience while also improving brand affinity. So grab a coffee from your local barista, tip well, and settle in for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Jérôme Robert</strong></p><p>Jérôme Robert is CMO and Chief of Staff at Tenable. He previously served as Managing Director of Alsid’s U.S. operations. His responsibilities included enabling users to harden their Active Directory and detect attacks. and supporting PSG. Prior to Alsid, he served as SVP of Product and Marketing at EclecticIQ. He has also worked at companies like Orange Cyberdefense and Arkoon Netasq.</p><p><strong>About Tenable</strong></p><p>Tenable® is the Exposure Management company. Approximately 40,000 organizations around the globe rely on Tenable to understand and reduce cyber risk. As the creator of Nessus®, Tenable extended its expertise in vulnerabilities to deliver the world’s first platform to see and secure any digital asset on any computing platform. Tenable customers include approximately 60 percent of the Fortune 500, approximately 40 percent of the Global 2000, and large government agencies</p><p><strong>About </strong><i><strong>The</strong></i><strong> </strong><i><strong>Hacker Chronicles</strong></i></p><p><i>The Hacker Chronicles </i>is a podcast about a barista named Alice who’s struggling to make ends meet, and that’s when a friend suggests buying a Ransomware-as-a-Service kit. So she starts exploring the Dark Web as a way to make some extra cash and ends up becoming America’s most wanted hacker. It’s now in its second season, “Digital Nomad”. It stars Chloe Taylor as Alice Mitnick and Michael C. Hall as John Doe. And it’s presented by Tenable.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> The Hacker Chronicles</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Create marketing content in a non-marketing genre.</strong> Like a children’s book, like a fiction podcast. Because not only will you appeal to marketers, you’ll tap into a much broader audience who enjoys the story. Ian says, “What I heard a ton of when we launched season one was, ‘I don't normally listen to podcasts like this, but I binged it with my girlfriend,’ or, ‘I listened to the entire thing in the car.’ We talked a lot about, ‘How do we make it bingeable?’</li><li><strong>Ground your fictional characters in a real world. </strong>Make your content resonate with your audience by creating hyper realistic scenarios. Accuracy in the details is key. Ian says in creating the storyline, “The characters had to experience the world in a certain way in order for it to feel real. Like, they need to have real stakes. They need to have real relationships. They need to have real pressures.” And Jérôme adds that, “W​hen you see a movie and there's a supposed hacker, but you see their screen and it's a dumb script that they are running that has nothing to do with cyber security, when a cyber security person watches this movie, we're like, ‘This is awful. I can't stand it.’ That's exactly what I didn't want. So everything [the main character Alice] does has been thought through and is realistic.” <i>The Hacker Chronicles</i> is based on a lot of real hacks, and so anyone in the cybersecurity industry would believe it.</li><li><strong>Get rid of ads.</strong> Try entertainment instead. Jerome says, “Everybody believes that the opportunity for ads is shrinking dramatically. People don't like interruptions. You have to provide something that is enjoyable. That rewards your audience.” And he said after bringing this up, his team no longer got pushback from the leadership on updating their marketing strategy.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>“Tenable was one of the founders of cybersecurity as an industry. And there's a lot of good things that come with that heritage. But there's also the tendency to not try new stuff from a marketing perspective. And there were people at the company when we joined that had an innate desire to challenge that.” - Jérôme Robert</p><p>“You have to be self-critical about what you're doing all the time. It's not easy, I think, from a brain gymnastics standpoint. It involved a lot of effort, but it's very rewarding. You're very happy when you end up with something that you think cannot be attacked, cannot be challenged. I mean, yeah, they could say they don't like it, but they can't say it's wrong. You have the eureka moment when you think, ‘Yeah, we got it.’ It's very cool.”  - Jérôme Robert </p><p>*”You do something that is fundamentally different from the rest of the industry, you are going to stand out. Which is, as marketers, what we're looking for. But as a company that is managing their risk doing something that makes the company stand out creates mixed feelings. They think, ‘If the outcomes are not what we hoped for it's a huge risk, it could backfire, and you don't have any ROI to put in front of it, so, no, I'm not going to do it.’ There’s too much risk in being different, somehow. And I think that's totally overstated. I think, notably in an industry where the marketing practices are very mature and very identical from one company to another, there's very, very little downside in standing out, in doing something that is entirely different.” - Jérôme Robert  </p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Jérôme Robert, CMO & Chief of Staff at Tenable</p><p>[1:57] What does Jérôme do at Tenable?</p><p>[5:45] What is <i>The Hacker Chronicles</i>?</p><p>[11:26] About the inspiration behind <i>The Hacker Chronicles</i></p><p>[17:17] The importance of realism in a fictional piece of content</p><p>[19:39] How scary is it to make a primer on hacking as a cybersecurity company?</p><p>[35:30] How do you prove the ROI of content?</p><p>[40:02] Why does Jérôme have a long-term approach to content like a podcast?</p><p>[44:40] How does Jérôme tie the podcast back to Tenable customers?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-hacker-chronicles/id1599393610">Listen to <i>The Hacker Chronicles</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeromerobert2/">Connect with Jérôme on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.tenable.com/">Learn more about Tenable</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear us out. A children’s book, a novella, a fictional crime podcast, but make them B2B. </p><p>Because B2B marketing doesn’t have to be a webinar, a blog post, an email newsletter… Every B2B company does those. Today we’re challenging you to rise above the noise and make radically different content. </p><p>In this episode, we’re learning from a company that has created B2B content as all three: children’s book, novella, and fictional crime podcast. That company is Tenable. We’re chatting with their CMO and Chief of Staff, Jérôme Robert, about the art of creating fictional content that feels realistic, lived in, and resonates with your audience while also improving brand affinity. So grab a coffee from your local barista, tip well, and settle in for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Jérôme Robert</strong></p><p>Jérôme Robert is CMO and Chief of Staff at Tenable. He previously served as Managing Director of Alsid’s U.S. operations. His responsibilities included enabling users to harden their Active Directory and detect attacks. and supporting PSG. Prior to Alsid, he served as SVP of Product and Marketing at EclecticIQ. He has also worked at companies like Orange Cyberdefense and Arkoon Netasq.</p><p><strong>About Tenable</strong></p><p>Tenable® is the Exposure Management company. Approximately 40,000 organizations around the globe rely on Tenable to understand and reduce cyber risk. As the creator of Nessus®, Tenable extended its expertise in vulnerabilities to deliver the world’s first platform to see and secure any digital asset on any computing platform. 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You have the eureka moment when you think, ‘Yeah, we got it.’ It's very cool.”  - Jérôme Robert </p><p>*”You do something that is fundamentally different from the rest of the industry, you are going to stand out. Which is, as marketers, what we're looking for. But as a company that is managing their risk doing something that makes the company stand out creates mixed feelings. They think, ‘If the outcomes are not what we hoped for it's a huge risk, it could backfire, and you don't have any ROI to put in front of it, so, no, I'm not going to do it.’ There’s too much risk in being different, somehow. And I think that's totally overstated. I think, notably in an industry where the marketing practices are very mature and very identical from one company to another, there's very, very little downside in standing out, in doing something that is entirely different.” - Jérôme Robert  </p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Jérôme Robert, CMO & Chief of Staff at Tenable</p><p>[1:57] What does Jérôme do at Tenable?</p><p>[5:45] What is <i>The Hacker Chronicles</i>?</p><p>[11:26] About the inspiration behind <i>The Hacker Chronicles</i></p><p>[17:17] The importance of realism in a fictional piece of content</p><p>[19:39] How scary is it to make a primer on hacking as a cybersecurity company?</p><p>[35:30] How do you prove the ROI of content?</p><p>[40:02] Why does Jérôme have a long-term approach to content like a podcast?</p><p>[44:40] How does Jérôme tie the podcast back to Tenable customers?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-hacker-chronicles/id1599393610">Listen to <i>The Hacker Chronicles</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeromerobert2/">Connect with Jérôme on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.tenable.com/">Learn more about Tenable</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. 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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Imagine this: possessing the power to not only understand your customers' deepest desires but also plant ideas in their minds, making them believe it was their idea from the very start.</p><p>It may sound like something straight out of a dream, but it may not be as far-fetched as it seems. See, the genius of Christopher Nolan's Inception conceals marketing insights if you look close enough. It's the marketing movie you never knew was about marketing.</p><p>While we can't offer you a PASIV device to enter your customers’ dreams, we can provide you with the tools to craft marketing strategies that work like inception - subtly influencing, inspiring, and engaging your audience.</p><p>So in this episode, we’re deciphering the intricate layers of marketing with the help of Emburse’s Chief Experience Officer, Johann Wrede. Together, we discuss how to utilize emotions to ‘plant ideas’ in your customers’ heads, avoid fixating on initial customer expectations throughout the customer journey, and leave room for your customers to co-create their narrative to boost engagement. So grab your totem for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Johann Wrede</strong></p><p>Johann Wrede is the Chief Experience Officer at Emburse. He is responsible for leading a cross-functional marketing and customer success organization, with the goal of delivering a world-class customer experience from first awareness through subscription renewal.  Over the course of the last 25 years, Johann has written, implemented, sold and marketed a variety of customer database, CRM and customer experience (CX) products. An evangelist for customer experience, he has delivered keynotes and press interviews in 18 different countries, and written numerous articles on the topic.</p><p><strong>About Emburse</strong></p><p>Emburse is the global leader in spend optimization. Their expense, travel management, purchasing and accounts payable, and payments solutions are trusted by more than 12 million business professionals, including CFOs, finance teams, and travelers. More than 18,000 organizations in 120 countries, including FORTUNE 100 corporations, high-growth startups, public sector agencies, and nonprofits, count on their intelligent automation, sophisticated analytics, and unmatched spend control to streamline processes, increase spend visibility, enhance compliance, and deliver positive financial outcomes.</p><p><strong>About Inception</strong></p><p>Inception is a sci-fi action, mind-bending movie about a corporate spy who enters people’s dreams to steal secrets from their subconscious. Leonardo DiCaprio plays the main character, Dominic, or Dom, Cobb, who is basically gifted with this ability that’s made him extremely successful, but he’s lost everything because of it. Namely, his marriage and children. His wife is played by Marion Cotillard. And so he’s kind of haunted by her in his subconscious and she ends up sort of thwarting his every move. So anyway, he’s given a chance to redeem himself by planting an idea in someone’s mind, and having to go layers deep into their subconscious, which is of course, a nearly impossible task.</p><p>The movie was released in 2010, and directed by Christopher Nolan (Oppenheimer, Dunkirk, latest Batman series with Christian Bale AND Memento). Nolan also produced it along with Emma Thomas - his wife and producing partner - for Warner Bros. It also stars Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Arthur, Elliot Page as Ariadne, and Tom Hardy as Eames.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>Inception</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Utilize emotions to ‘plant ideas’.</strong>  Emotions are your superpower to accessing the deepest corners of your customers' minds. People don't just buy; they invest for emotional reasons—this is an intrinsic part to our human nature. Johann says, “our whole mission is to plant ideas into customers' heads and convince them that it was their idea from the first. And the first time I saw [Inception], that is, it just jumped out at me and I thought, wow, that really sums up the marketing profession in a nutshell.”</li><li><strong>Don’t fixate on initial customer expectations</strong>. Customers evolve, and so should your strategy. What matters most in the end is if they are happy. Just as Inception leaves us with an ambiguous ending, Cobb’s happiness is undeniable. Whether it's a dream or reality, his happiness is the ultimate goal, mirroring how you should approach your customer journey. Johann emphasizes, “it doesn't actually matter if the value that they thought they were going to get is the value that they got. What's more important is that the value that they want right now is the value that they're getting right now. Are they happy with the result?”</li><li><strong>Leave room for your customers to co-create their narrative.</strong> This fuels customer engagement and is exactly what Christopher Nolan did when creating Inception. We witness this concept in two distinct ways: co-creation within the dream state, as the dream world is designed in a way that allows the subject to fill in details, and ambiguity in the ending, with Inception's enigmatic conclusion inviting audience speculation. Johann says, “All too often, we build these elaborate cities that we put our buyer into. And we orchestrate this narrative that is so complete and so full. And we try to be so precise in our language that we don't leave room for them to bring their own perception and perspective to it.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>“One of my first sales mentors said to me, people buy for emotional reasons and then back it up with facts. That became really clear to me that what we needed to do as marketers was peel away those layers of the onion and get past the business person and down to the human, and speak to that person.” - Johann Wrede</p><p>“If you can create content that authentically seeks to inform and to add value, then you start to move into the trusted advisor quadrant, which is where you really want to be. And the other piece of this puzzle is that we have to look at the content we create through the lens of the customer journey.”  - Johann Wrede</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[01:00] Introducing Chief Experience Officer at Emburse, Johann Wrede</p><p>[1:34] Why are we talking about Inception?</p><p>[3:34] Tell me more about Inception </p><p>[13:48] What are some marketing lessons we can learn from Inception?</p><p>[22:16] Marketing insights from Inception's mind-bending ending</p><p>[32:02] How to identify needs and craft messages that resonate</p><p>[45:53] How does Johann think about content marketing?</p><p>[54:49] Johann’s view on the ROI of content</p><p>[57:49] Johann’s favorite upcoming marketing campaigns at Emburse</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Inception-Leonardo-DiCaprio/dp/B0047WJ11G/ref=sr_1_1?crid=30A4ZWUKITT03&keywords=inception&qid=1697125478&s=instant-video&sprefix=incep%2Cinstant-video%2C89&sr=1-1">Watch Inception</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/johannwrede/">Connect with Johann on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.emburse.com/">Learn more about Emburse</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine this: possessing the power to not only understand your customers' deepest desires but also plant ideas in their minds, making them believe it was their idea from the very start.</p><p>It may sound like something straight out of a dream, but it may not be as far-fetched as it seems. See, the genius of Christopher Nolan's Inception conceals marketing insights if you look close enough. It's the marketing movie you never knew was about marketing.</p><p>While we can't offer you a PASIV device to enter your customers’ dreams, we can provide you with the tools to craft marketing strategies that work like inception - subtly influencing, inspiring, and engaging your audience.</p><p>So in this episode, we’re deciphering the intricate layers of marketing with the help of Emburse’s Chief Experience Officer, Johann Wrede. Together, we discuss how to utilize emotions to ‘plant ideas’ in your customers’ heads, avoid fixating on initial customer expectations throughout the customer journey, and leave room for your customers to co-create their narrative to boost engagement. So grab your totem for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Johann Wrede</strong></p><p>Johann Wrede is the Chief Experience Officer at Emburse. He is responsible for leading a cross-functional marketing and customer success organization, with the goal of delivering a world-class customer experience from first awareness through subscription renewal.  Over the course of the last 25 years, Johann has written, implemented, sold and marketed a variety of customer database, CRM and customer experience (CX) products. An evangelist for customer experience, he has delivered keynotes and press interviews in 18 different countries, and written numerous articles on the topic.</p><p><strong>About Emburse</strong></p><p>Emburse is the global leader in spend optimization. Their expense, travel management, purchasing and accounts payable, and payments solutions are trusted by more than 12 million business professionals, including CFOs, finance teams, and travelers. More than 18,000 organizations in 120 countries, including FORTUNE 100 corporations, high-growth startups, public sector agencies, and nonprofits, count on their intelligent automation, sophisticated analytics, and unmatched spend control to streamline processes, increase spend visibility, enhance compliance, and deliver positive financial outcomes.</p><p><strong>About Inception</strong></p><p>Inception is a sci-fi action, mind-bending movie about a corporate spy who enters people’s dreams to steal secrets from their subconscious. Leonardo DiCaprio plays the main character, Dominic, or Dom, Cobb, who is basically gifted with this ability that’s made him extremely successful, but he’s lost everything because of it. Namely, his marriage and children. His wife is played by Marion Cotillard. And so he’s kind of haunted by her in his subconscious and she ends up sort of thwarting his every move. So anyway, he’s given a chance to redeem himself by planting an idea in someone’s mind, and having to go layers deep into their subconscious, which is of course, a nearly impossible task.</p><p>The movie was released in 2010, and directed by Christopher Nolan (Oppenheimer, Dunkirk, latest Batman series with Christian Bale AND Memento). Nolan also produced it along with Emma Thomas - his wife and producing partner - for Warner Bros. It also stars Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Arthur, Elliot Page as Ariadne, and Tom Hardy as Eames.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>Inception</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Utilize emotions to ‘plant ideas’.</strong>  Emotions are your superpower to accessing the deepest corners of your customers' minds. People don't just buy; they invest for emotional reasons—this is an intrinsic part to our human nature. Johann says, “our whole mission is to plant ideas into customers' heads and convince them that it was their idea from the first. And the first time I saw [Inception], that is, it just jumped out at me and I thought, wow, that really sums up the marketing profession in a nutshell.”</li><li><strong>Don’t fixate on initial customer expectations</strong>. Customers evolve, and so should your strategy. What matters most in the end is if they are happy. Just as Inception leaves us with an ambiguous ending, Cobb’s happiness is undeniable. Whether it's a dream or reality, his happiness is the ultimate goal, mirroring how you should approach your customer journey. Johann emphasizes, “it doesn't actually matter if the value that they thought they were going to get is the value that they got. What's more important is that the value that they want right now is the value that they're getting right now. Are they happy with the result?”</li><li><strong>Leave room for your customers to co-create their narrative.</strong> This fuels customer engagement and is exactly what Christopher Nolan did when creating Inception. We witness this concept in two distinct ways: co-creation within the dream state, as the dream world is designed in a way that allows the subject to fill in details, and ambiguity in the ending, with Inception's enigmatic conclusion inviting audience speculation. Johann says, “All too often, we build these elaborate cities that we put our buyer into. And we orchestrate this narrative that is so complete and so full. And we try to be so precise in our language that we don't leave room for them to bring their own perception and perspective to it.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>“One of my first sales mentors said to me, people buy for emotional reasons and then back it up with facts. That became really clear to me that what we needed to do as marketers was peel away those layers of the onion and get past the business person and down to the human, and speak to that person.” - Johann Wrede</p><p>“If you can create content that authentically seeks to inform and to add value, then you start to move into the trusted advisor quadrant, which is where you really want to be. And the other piece of this puzzle is that we have to look at the content we create through the lens of the customer journey.”  - Johann Wrede</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[01:00] Introducing Chief Experience Officer at Emburse, Johann Wrede</p><p>[1:34] Why are we talking about Inception?</p><p>[3:34] Tell me more about Inception </p><p>[13:48] What are some marketing lessons we can learn from Inception?</p><p>[22:16] Marketing insights from Inception's mind-bending ending</p><p>[32:02] How to identify needs and craft messages that resonate</p><p>[45:53] How does Johann think about content marketing?</p><p>[54:49] Johann’s view on the ROI of content</p><p>[57:49] Johann’s favorite upcoming marketing campaigns at Emburse</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Inception-Leonardo-DiCaprio/dp/B0047WJ11G/ref=sr_1_1?crid=30A4ZWUKITT03&keywords=inception&qid=1697125478&s=instant-video&sprefix=incep%2Cinstant-video%2C89&sr=1-1">Watch Inception</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/johannwrede/">Connect with Johann on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.emburse.com/">Learn more about Emburse</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>Imagine this: possessing the power to not only understand your customers&apos; deepest desires but also plant ideas in their minds, making them believe it was their idea from the very start.

It may sound like something straight out of a dream, but it may not be as far-fetched as it seems. See, the genius of Christopher Nolan&apos;s Inception conceals marketing insights if you look close enough. It&apos;s the marketing movie you never knew was about marketing.

While we can&apos;t offer you a PASIV device to enter your customers’ dreams, we can provide you with the tools to craft marketing strategies that work like inception - subtly influencing, inspiring, and engaging your audience.

So in this episode, we’re deciphering the intricate layers of marketing with the help of Emburse’s Chief Experience Officer, Johann Wrede. Together, we discuss how to utilize emotions to ‘plant ideas’ in your customers’ heads, avoid fixating on initial customer expectations throughout the customer journey, and leave room for your customers to co-create their narrative to boost engagement. So grab your totem for this episode of Remarkable.</itunes:summary>
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It may sound like something straight out of a dream, but it may not be as far-fetched as it seems. See, the genius of Christopher Nolan&apos;s Inception conceals marketing insights if you look close enough. It&apos;s the marketing movie you never knew was about marketing.

While we can&apos;t offer you a PASIV device to enter your customers’ dreams, we can provide you with the tools to craft marketing strategies that work like inception - subtly influencing, inspiring, and engaging your audience.

So in this episode, we’re deciphering the intricate layers of marketing with the help of Emburse’s Chief Experience Officer, Johann Wrede. Together, we discuss how to utilize emotions to ‘plant ideas’ in your customers’ heads, avoid fixating on initial customer expectations throughout the customer journey, and leave room for your customers to co-create their narrative to boost engagement. So grab your totem for this episode of Remarkable.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>One, Ten, One Hundred: B2B Marketing Lessons from Wistia’s Webby Award-Winning Documentary with Chris Sheen, Director of Content &amp; Social at Celonis</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>You don’t need to have an unlimited budget to make remarkable marketing content. In fact, it's better if you're working under some constraints. We have proof.</p><p>The folks over at Wistia did a little experiment they called <i>One, Ten, One Hundred</i>. They made an ad for the same product (Wistia’s Soapbox video recorder) on three different budgets: $1,000, 10,000 and 100,000 dollars, to see which one would perform best. And in this episode, we’re giving you the inside scoop on what they found. You’ll be surprised at the result.</p><p>Today, we’re showing you how combining a bit of inventiveness with a touch of resourcefulness is more powerful than just throwing money at your marketing. Because when cash is a bit strapped, that’s when you’re forced to get creative. And it’s that creativity that resonates with viewers. That’s what we’re talking about today with Chris Sheen, Director of Content and Social at Celonis. So take out your scissors and craft paper for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Chris Sheen</strong></p><p>Chris Sheen is Director of Content and Social at Celonis. He joined Celonis in February of 2022. Prior to his current role, he served as CMO at Sideways 6 and SaleCycle. He has also worked at Teradata and Experian. He is based in London.</p><p><strong>About Celonis</strong></p><p>Celonis is the global leader and pioneer in process mining. </p><p>They pioneered the process mining category 10 years ago and the company is now valued at over $13 billion dollars - decacorn status no less. </p><p><strong>About </strong><i><strong>One, Ten, One Hundred</strong></i></p><p><i>One, Ten, One Hundred</i> is a Webby Award-winning four-part documentary in which video software company Wistia challenges video production company Sandwich Video to make three ads on different budgets: 1,000, 10,000 and 100,000-dollars. The goal was to explore the impact budget has on creativity in video ads. Wistia then measured ad performance and audience reaction to gauge success of each. It was also a way to advertise for Wistia’s tool, Soapbox, which is a video creation tool for SMBs.</p><p>The metrics they tuned into were traditional demographics, engagement data, cost per customer acquisition and return on investment.</p><p>The idea for Wistia’s documentary came about because their production team realized they didn’t have a good understanding of the money-in-money-out ratio. Wistia Founder and CEO, Chris Savage said, “Our production team felt that creativity was the single most important element in producing an effective video and this fits in with our vision to grow through creativity.”</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>One, Ten, One Hundred</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Show the “making of” process behind your product.</strong>  There’s an appeal to seeing a transformation from beginning to end. Ian says, “We like to know the process of making something. The making of something is just as interesting, or even more interesting, than the final asset. People like to watch transformation. They like inside information.” Chris says that it also shows the humanity behind the product, behind the company. He says, “I think B2B companies can just feel like a faceless organization that has a product, that has software. But when you show the making of things, like one of my favorite easy tricks is showing an outtake at the end of a video. It's a, you know, a five second outtake. It shows the human side, it shows the mistake and it completely changes how you feel very quickly about the brand, about the company.” Showing the process humanizes your brand and makes it more appealing to potential customers.</li><li><strong>Play up how long your product was in development. </strong>This conveys to your audience a sense of your specialty and standards of excellence in the industry. Chris says, “Apple and Dyson really show you the level, the hours, the days, years, months, they've gone into making their products, really crafting what they do and the art behind it. Like, ‘We've perfected this. We weren't going to ship it until it was ready.’ This is so powerful as a marketing technique. Because it works. It really makes you feel like, ‘Okay, this is going to be something special.” So show the rigor that went into crafting your product.</li><li><strong>Edutain your audience.</strong> Don’t just try to educate them. Make it fun. Chris says, “Great content marketing is like entertainment. You've got to know your audience to do that well. Wistia really does. How many companies sat there thinking, ‘We'd love to have a great explainer video for our website, but we just don't have the budget’? I watched [the documentary] and I'm literally thinking, ‘I need to get my craft papers out. I'm going to steal my daughter's school stuff and start making stuff to help sell Celonis.’ Because it brings it to life in so many different ways.” So when you’re creating content, ask yourself, “Is this educational <i>and</i> is it entertaining?” A good way to measure this is to ask, “Would viewers watch it in their own time?”</li><li><strong>Create something that you enjoy.</strong> Because it’s likely what your audience would enjoy too. Chris says, “With Wistia, they're clearly doing it as much for themselves as anyone else. They're clearly loving it, enjoying it, learning a lot themselves. And at the end of it, you kind of feel that they've got as much out of it as I have watching it. And I think that in itself is a great sign of content. If you can do something that, when you look back, you think, ‘I think I would enjoy this if someone else had made this,’ I think that's a really strong point if it fits your target market.’</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>“When you watch [<i>One, Ten, One Hundred</i>], you don't feel like you're watching a piece of content marketing. And that's probably the ultimate B2B marketer’s goal, or any marketer's goal really, is to make that content not feel like it's selling something. It's just selling entertainment and education.” - Chris Sheen</p><p>“We always strive for perfect, don't we? We want perfection in the market. We want it to feel great and look great, sound great. Sometimes it's worth taking a step back and thinking, ‘Actually, what's going to get the message across the most authentically?”  - Chris Sheen</p><p>*”Creative work has to have constraints.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”[The documentary] really was binge worthy, which is the ultimate goal for content marketing. It passes the driveway test. That’s when you're listening to a song, you get to the end of your journey, you're sitting in your driveway. Do you get out of the car and just walk away, or do you stay to finish it?” - Chris Sheen</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:54] Introducing Director of Content & Social at Celonis, Chris Sheen</p><p>[1:48] Why are we talking about Wistia’s <i>One, Ten, One Hundred </i>documentary today?</p><p>[3:21] What is Wistia’s <i>One, Ten, One Hundred </i>documentary about?</p><p>[5:50] What makes the documentary remarkable?</p><p>[12:51] What are some marketing lessons we can take from <i>One, Ten, One Hundred</i>?</p><p>[30:22] What’s Chris’ content strategy?</p><p>[36:15] What are some projects at Celonis Chris is proud of?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://wistia.com/series/one-ten-one-hundred">Watch <i>One, Ten, One Hundred</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrissheen/">Connect with Chris on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.celonis.com/">Learn more about Celonis</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2023 09:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Chris Sheen, Meredith Gooderham, Ian Faison, Scott Goodrich)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don’t need to have an unlimited budget to make remarkable marketing content. In fact, it's better if you're working under some constraints. We have proof.</p><p>The folks over at Wistia did a little experiment they called <i>One, Ten, One Hundred</i>. They made an ad for the same product (Wistia’s Soapbox video recorder) on three different budgets: $1,000, 10,000 and 100,000 dollars, to see which one would perform best. And in this episode, we’re giving you the inside scoop on what they found. You’ll be surprised at the result.</p><p>Today, we’re showing you how combining a bit of inventiveness with a touch of resourcefulness is more powerful than just throwing money at your marketing. Because when cash is a bit strapped, that’s when you’re forced to get creative. And it’s that creativity that resonates with viewers. That’s what we’re talking about today with Chris Sheen, Director of Content and Social at Celonis. So take out your scissors and craft paper for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Chris Sheen</strong></p><p>Chris Sheen is Director of Content and Social at Celonis. He joined Celonis in February of 2022. Prior to his current role, he served as CMO at Sideways 6 and SaleCycle. He has also worked at Teradata and Experian. He is based in London.</p><p><strong>About Celonis</strong></p><p>Celonis is the global leader and pioneer in process mining. </p><p>They pioneered the process mining category 10 years ago and the company is now valued at over $13 billion dollars - decacorn status no less. </p><p><strong>About </strong><i><strong>One, Ten, One Hundred</strong></i></p><p><i>One, Ten, One Hundred</i> is a Webby Award-winning four-part documentary in which video software company Wistia challenges video production company Sandwich Video to make three ads on different budgets: 1,000, 10,000 and 100,000-dollars. The goal was to explore the impact budget has on creativity in video ads. Wistia then measured ad performance and audience reaction to gauge success of each. It was also a way to advertise for Wistia’s tool, Soapbox, which is a video creation tool for SMBs.</p><p>The metrics they tuned into were traditional demographics, engagement data, cost per customer acquisition and return on investment.</p><p>The idea for Wistia’s documentary came about because their production team realized they didn’t have a good understanding of the money-in-money-out ratio. Wistia Founder and CEO, Chris Savage said, “Our production team felt that creativity was the single most important element in producing an effective video and this fits in with our vision to grow through creativity.”</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From </strong><i><strong>One, Ten, One Hundred</strong></i><strong>:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Show the “making of” process behind your product.</strong>  There’s an appeal to seeing a transformation from beginning to end. Ian says, “We like to know the process of making something. The making of something is just as interesting, or even more interesting, than the final asset. People like to watch transformation. They like inside information.” Chris says that it also shows the humanity behind the product, behind the company. He says, “I think B2B companies can just feel like a faceless organization that has a product, that has software. But when you show the making of things, like one of my favorite easy tricks is showing an outtake at the end of a video. It's a, you know, a five second outtake. It shows the human side, it shows the mistake and it completely changes how you feel very quickly about the brand, about the company.” Showing the process humanizes your brand and makes it more appealing to potential customers.</li><li><strong>Play up how long your product was in development. </strong>This conveys to your audience a sense of your specialty and standards of excellence in the industry. Chris says, “Apple and Dyson really show you the level, the hours, the days, years, months, they've gone into making their products, really crafting what they do and the art behind it. Like, ‘We've perfected this. We weren't going to ship it until it was ready.’ This is so powerful as a marketing technique. Because it works. It really makes you feel like, ‘Okay, this is going to be something special.” So show the rigor that went into crafting your product.</li><li><strong>Edutain your audience.</strong> Don’t just try to educate them. Make it fun. Chris says, “Great content marketing is like entertainment. You've got to know your audience to do that well. Wistia really does. How many companies sat there thinking, ‘We'd love to have a great explainer video for our website, but we just don't have the budget’? I watched [the documentary] and I'm literally thinking, ‘I need to get my craft papers out. I'm going to steal my daughter's school stuff and start making stuff to help sell Celonis.’ Because it brings it to life in so many different ways.” So when you’re creating content, ask yourself, “Is this educational <i>and</i> is it entertaining?” A good way to measure this is to ask, “Would viewers watch it in their own time?”</li><li><strong>Create something that you enjoy.</strong> Because it’s likely what your audience would enjoy too. Chris says, “With Wistia, they're clearly doing it as much for themselves as anyone else. They're clearly loving it, enjoying it, learning a lot themselves. And at the end of it, you kind of feel that they've got as much out of it as I have watching it. And I think that in itself is a great sign of content. If you can do something that, when you look back, you think, ‘I think I would enjoy this if someone else had made this,’ I think that's a really strong point if it fits your target market.’</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>“When you watch [<i>One, Ten, One Hundred</i>], you don't feel like you're watching a piece of content marketing. And that's probably the ultimate B2B marketer’s goal, or any marketer's goal really, is to make that content not feel like it's selling something. It's just selling entertainment and education.” - Chris Sheen</p><p>“We always strive for perfect, don't we? We want perfection in the market. We want it to feel great and look great, sound great. Sometimes it's worth taking a step back and thinking, ‘Actually, what's going to get the message across the most authentically?”  - Chris Sheen</p><p>*”Creative work has to have constraints.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”[The documentary] really was binge worthy, which is the ultimate goal for content marketing. It passes the driveway test. That’s when you're listening to a song, you get to the end of your journey, you're sitting in your driveway. Do you get out of the car and just walk away, or do you stay to finish it?” - Chris Sheen</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[00:54] Introducing Director of Content & Social at Celonis, Chris Sheen</p><p>[1:48] Why are we talking about Wistia’s <i>One, Ten, One Hundred </i>documentary today?</p><p>[3:21] What is Wistia’s <i>One, Ten, One Hundred </i>documentary about?</p><p>[5:50] What makes the documentary remarkable?</p><p>[12:51] What are some marketing lessons we can take from <i>One, Ten, One Hundred</i>?</p><p>[30:22] What’s Chris’ content strategy?</p><p>[36:15] What are some projects at Celonis Chris is proud of?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://wistia.com/series/one-ten-one-hundred">Watch <i>One, Ten, One Hundred</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrissheen/">Connect with Chris on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.celonis.com/">Learn more about Celonis</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith Gooderham, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Taylor Swift: B2B Marketing Lessons on Brand Voice with Meghan Barr, VP of Brand, Content &amp; Communications at ZoomInfo</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Nailing down your brand voice is tough. Especially when you’re writing content for videos, blogs, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok…we could go on forever. </p><p>Because a strong brand voice helps you stand out, drives brand affinity, and improves conversion rates. But where do you even start? What tone do you use? How wordy or concise should you be? We have answers for you. </p><p>We’re tuning in to the Queen of brand voice today: Taylor Swift. Along with VP of Brand, Content and Communications at ZoomInfo, Meghan Barr, we’re exploring how Taylor Swift listens to her audience, how she defines her writing style, and how that changes with each reinvention. So grab your glitter pen and take notes on this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Meghan Barr</strong></p><p>Meghan Barr is VP of Brand, Content and Communications at ZoomInfo. She joined ZoomInfo in January 2021 as Senior Director of Content and Communications. </p><p>After nearly two decades as an award-winning journalist at The Associated Press and The Boston Globe, Meghan joined the tech world at ZoomInfo, a software company that is modernizing how businesses go to market.</p><p>During her journalism career, Meghan covered some of the biggest breaking news stories in the world, including Occupy Wall Street, Superstorm Sandy, and the Boston Marathon bombings. As a reporter based in several Midwestern cities and, later, New York City, she broke news about serial killers, witnessed a death row execution by lethal injection, followed politicians on the 2008 presidential campaign trail, drove through flooded roadways, chased ambulances and tornadoes, climbed to the top of the World Trade Center on a rickety ladder, interviewed famous athletes, and generally had a lot of amazing adventures. Over the years, her areas of expertise included crime, income inequality, transportation, and tourism. She also became one of the AP's trained video journalists capable of shooting and producing my own video reports streamed globally to clients for AP Television News.</p><p>As an editor, Meghan directed metro news coverage on Boston.com for several years before becoming an editor at The Boston Globe Magazine, where she commissioned and edited longform narrative features and adapted excerpts from forthcoming works of nonfiction.</p><p>Meghan is passionate about telling impactful stories that resonate. She’s also dedicated to helping working parents succeed in a world where the odds are stacked against them, particularly for working mothers. At the Globe, she was part of a fierce committee of women who successfully lobbied for a better family leave policy. At ZoomInfo, she launched a caregivers employee resource group to help support and advocate for employees who care for children or elderly relatives.</p><p><strong>About ZoomInfo</strong></p><p>ZoomInfo (NASDAQ: ZI) is a leader in modern go-to-market software, data, and intelligence for more than 30,000 companies worldwide. ZoomInfo’s revenue operating system, RevOS, empowers business-to-business sales, marketing, operations, and recruiting professionals to hit their number by pairing best-in-class technology with unrivaled data coverage, accuracy, and depth of company and contact information. With integrations embedded into workflows and technology stacks, including the leading CRM, Sales Engagement, Marketing Automation, and Talent Management applications, ZoomInfo drives more predictable, accelerated, and sustainable growth for its customers. ZoomInfo emphasizes GDPR and CCPA compliance. In addition to creating the industry’s first proactive notice program, the company is a registered data broker with the states of California and Vermont.</p><p><strong>About Taylor Swift</strong></p><p>Taylor Swift is a singer and songwriter and all-around music industry phenomenon who is currently on her much-talked-about Eras Tour. She was originally known for country music but is overall considered a pop artist. She has collected Grammys, American Music Awards, Billboard Music Awards, and more #1 albums than any other woman ever. She has a strong, defined personal brand that fans tap into, namely the red lipstick, wearing the number 13, and wearing friendship bracelets. She’s also a strong advocate for artist’s rights. </p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Taylor Swift:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Decide who you are as a company.</strong> What are your values? What’s your mission? How would you describe your company? Answer these questions first, and that will inform your brand voice. Meghan says, “Which brand archetype are you? You can be the hero. You can be a helper. It’s an important question of like, ‘Who do you want to be as a company? Who do you want to be as a brand? What are you all about, basically?’</li><li><strong>Lurk on your audience.</strong> Tune into their social media to find out what matters to them. Then create content that plays to your audience’s values. Taylor Swift calls her approach “Tay-lurking.” She investigates what fans are doing and saying on social media, and that’s how she understands what they care about. She then builds it into content. This way, she gives fans what they want (another concert, hidden Easter eggs, etc.).</li><li><strong>Put effort into building your community.</strong> Community doesn’t build itself; it depends on give and take. (Emphasis on the “give” part). The energy and attention that you invest in your community comes right back to you in the form of brand affinity. Taylor Swift is constantly engaging with her fans, whether it’s at her concerts and giving away her black fedora to a special fan, on social media, or at meet and greets. She gives the impression of being very accessible, and that she “gets” her fans. So put some effort into building that emotional connection and reap the benefits.</li><li><strong>Reinvent your brand to renew audience interest.</strong> As your company grows and develops, refresh your brand to reflect the change. Taylor Swift has reinvented (aka rebranded) herself many times, from country music to pop, album to album. Each has had a different feel <i>and </i>look. Even the name of her tour - The Eras Tour - plays to this. She has grown and changed through each era, each album. And her fans have grown with her, gaining momentum. Taylor Swift even uses different voices in her songs. At the 2022 <a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/taylor-swift-nashville-songwriter-award-speech-1234596982/">Nashville Songwriters Association International annual ceremony</a>, she said she has three styles of lyrics: quill lyrics, fountain pen lyrics, and gel pen lyrics. The important part is that Taylor Swift is the one writing them. And it’s her personal brand fans are attached to. She already made a psychological bond with them, and they are always looking out for new content from her. So keep your branding feeling fresh, including your brand voice, so your audience stays invested.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“The Tay-lurking thing is her listening. Like every good marketer, she spends time with the customers. She's out there listening to what her fans want and responding to that stuff. That's how she can layer in all these little hidden messages and hidden secrets and know that people are going to find them because she's probably reading how much people love that stuff.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”She's investing the time in her fans that they are investing in her. She’s feeding the frenzy of her fans, of the community. You have to invest in your audience. You have to listen to them and actually put the work in.” - Meghan Barr</p><p>*”One of the big marketing takeaways from Taylor Swift in the totality of her career is her acknowledgement that ‘I know my fans better than you know them.’ She knows what she’s making and who it's for. And if you don't like it, it's not for you.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*"You can't be everything for everyone. You have to pick a lane, you have to decide what you're doing and commit to it.” - Meghan Barr</p><p>*”If you don't know your audience, you're going to fail. You have to know who they are, what they think about, what they're worried about, what they're stressing about… you have to really put in that time and effort. Because otherwise you can't get inside their heads. You can't figure out what's going to resonate with them." - Meghan Barr</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Meghan Barr, VP of Brand, Content and Communications at ZoomInfo</p><p>[1:33] Why are we covering Taylor Swift?</p><p>[2:52] What does Meghan do at ZoomInfo?</p><p>[4:07] Learn more about Taylor Swift</p><p>[9:49] Why is Taylor Swift remarkable?</p><p>[13:09] Why authenticity is more important today, after the advent of AI in marketing</p><p>[24:14] More marketing takeaways from Taylor Swift</p><p>[38:45] Learn about the modern go-to-market index</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/06HL4z0CvFAxyc27GXpf02?si=RSnXcFhdTwefK4DLz_RKIg">Listen to Taylor Swift</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/meghan-barr-3211865/">Connect with Meghan on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.zoominfo.com/">Learn more about ZoomInfo</a></p><p><a href="https://www.adweek.com/brand-marketing/zoominfo-b-to-c-b-to-b-campaign-ads/">Read the AdWeek article on ZoomInfo’s collaboration with Colossus</a></p><p><a href="https://www.zoominfo.com/plays">Check out ZoomInfo’s go-to-market plays</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nailing down your brand voice is tough. Especially when you’re writing content for videos, blogs, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok…we could go on forever. </p><p>Because a strong brand voice helps you stand out, drives brand affinity, and improves conversion rates. But where do you even start? What tone do you use? How wordy or concise should you be? We have answers for you. </p><p>We’re tuning in to the Queen of brand voice today: Taylor Swift. Along with VP of Brand, Content and Communications at ZoomInfo, Meghan Barr, we’re exploring how Taylor Swift listens to her audience, how she defines her writing style, and how that changes with each reinvention. So grab your glitter pen and take notes on this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Meghan Barr</strong></p><p>Meghan Barr is VP of Brand, Content and Communications at ZoomInfo. She joined ZoomInfo in January 2021 as Senior Director of Content and Communications. </p><p>After nearly two decades as an award-winning journalist at The Associated Press and The Boston Globe, Meghan joined the tech world at ZoomInfo, a software company that is modernizing how businesses go to market.</p><p>During her journalism career, Meghan covered some of the biggest breaking news stories in the world, including Occupy Wall Street, Superstorm Sandy, and the Boston Marathon bombings. As a reporter based in several Midwestern cities and, later, New York City, she broke news about serial killers, witnessed a death row execution by lethal injection, followed politicians on the 2008 presidential campaign trail, drove through flooded roadways, chased ambulances and tornadoes, climbed to the top of the World Trade Center on a rickety ladder, interviewed famous athletes, and generally had a lot of amazing adventures. Over the years, her areas of expertise included crime, income inequality, transportation, and tourism. She also became one of the AP's trained video journalists capable of shooting and producing my own video reports streamed globally to clients for AP Television News.</p><p>As an editor, Meghan directed metro news coverage on Boston.com for several years before becoming an editor at The Boston Globe Magazine, where she commissioned and edited longform narrative features and adapted excerpts from forthcoming works of nonfiction.</p><p>Meghan is passionate about telling impactful stories that resonate. She’s also dedicated to helping working parents succeed in a world where the odds are stacked against them, particularly for working mothers. At the Globe, she was part of a fierce committee of women who successfully lobbied for a better family leave policy. At ZoomInfo, she launched a caregivers employee resource group to help support and advocate for employees who care for children or elderly relatives.</p><p><strong>About ZoomInfo</strong></p><p>ZoomInfo (NASDAQ: ZI) is a leader in modern go-to-market software, data, and intelligence for more than 30,000 companies worldwide. ZoomInfo’s revenue operating system, RevOS, empowers business-to-business sales, marketing, operations, and recruiting professionals to hit their number by pairing best-in-class technology with unrivaled data coverage, accuracy, and depth of company and contact information. With integrations embedded into workflows and technology stacks, including the leading CRM, Sales Engagement, Marketing Automation, and Talent Management applications, ZoomInfo drives more predictable, accelerated, and sustainable growth for its customers. ZoomInfo emphasizes GDPR and CCPA compliance. In addition to creating the industry’s first proactive notice program, the company is a registered data broker with the states of California and Vermont.</p><p><strong>About Taylor Swift</strong></p><p>Taylor Swift is a singer and songwriter and all-around music industry phenomenon who is currently on her much-talked-about Eras Tour. She was originally known for country music but is overall considered a pop artist. She has collected Grammys, American Music Awards, Billboard Music Awards, and more #1 albums than any other woman ever. She has a strong, defined personal brand that fans tap into, namely the red lipstick, wearing the number 13, and wearing friendship bracelets. She’s also a strong advocate for artist’s rights. </p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Taylor Swift:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Decide who you are as a company.</strong> What are your values? What’s your mission? How would you describe your company? Answer these questions first, and that will inform your brand voice. Meghan says, “Which brand archetype are you? You can be the hero. You can be a helper. It’s an important question of like, ‘Who do you want to be as a company? Who do you want to be as a brand? What are you all about, basically?’</li><li><strong>Lurk on your audience.</strong> Tune into their social media to find out what matters to them. Then create content that plays to your audience’s values. Taylor Swift calls her approach “Tay-lurking.” She investigates what fans are doing and saying on social media, and that’s how she understands what they care about. She then builds it into content. This way, she gives fans what they want (another concert, hidden Easter eggs, etc.).</li><li><strong>Put effort into building your community.</strong> Community doesn’t build itself; it depends on give and take. (Emphasis on the “give” part). The energy and attention that you invest in your community comes right back to you in the form of brand affinity. Taylor Swift is constantly engaging with her fans, whether it’s at her concerts and giving away her black fedora to a special fan, on social media, or at meet and greets. She gives the impression of being very accessible, and that she “gets” her fans. So put some effort into building that emotional connection and reap the benefits.</li><li><strong>Reinvent your brand to renew audience interest.</strong> As your company grows and develops, refresh your brand to reflect the change. Taylor Swift has reinvented (aka rebranded) herself many times, from country music to pop, album to album. Each has had a different feel <i>and </i>look. Even the name of her tour - The Eras Tour - plays to this. She has grown and changed through each era, each album. And her fans have grown with her, gaining momentum. Taylor Swift even uses different voices in her songs. At the 2022 <a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/taylor-swift-nashville-songwriter-award-speech-1234596982/">Nashville Songwriters Association International annual ceremony</a>, she said she has three styles of lyrics: quill lyrics, fountain pen lyrics, and gel pen lyrics. The important part is that Taylor Swift is the one writing them. And it’s her personal brand fans are attached to. She already made a psychological bond with them, and they are always looking out for new content from her. So keep your branding feeling fresh, including your brand voice, so your audience stays invested.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“The Tay-lurking thing is her listening. Like every good marketer, she spends time with the customers. She's out there listening to what her fans want and responding to that stuff. That's how she can layer in all these little hidden messages and hidden secrets and know that people are going to find them because she's probably reading how much people love that stuff.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”She's investing the time in her fans that they are investing in her. She’s feeding the frenzy of her fans, of the community. You have to invest in your audience. You have to listen to them and actually put the work in.” - Meghan Barr</p><p>*”One of the big marketing takeaways from Taylor Swift in the totality of her career is her acknowledgement that ‘I know my fans better than you know them.’ She knows what she’s making and who it's for. And if you don't like it, it's not for you.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*"You can't be everything for everyone. You have to pick a lane, you have to decide what you're doing and commit to it.” - Meghan Barr</p><p>*”If you don't know your audience, you're going to fail. You have to know who they are, what they think about, what they're worried about, what they're stressing about… you have to really put in that time and effort. Because otherwise you can't get inside their heads. You can't figure out what's going to resonate with them." - Meghan Barr</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Meghan Barr, VP of Brand, Content and Communications at ZoomInfo</p><p>[1:33] Why are we covering Taylor Swift?</p><p>[2:52] What does Meghan do at ZoomInfo?</p><p>[4:07] Learn more about Taylor Swift</p><p>[9:49] Why is Taylor Swift remarkable?</p><p>[13:09] Why authenticity is more important today, after the advent of AI in marketing</p><p>[24:14] More marketing takeaways from Taylor Swift</p><p>[38:45] Learn about the modern go-to-market index</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/06HL4z0CvFAxyc27GXpf02?si=RSnXcFhdTwefK4DLz_RKIg">Listen to Taylor Swift</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/meghan-barr-3211865/">Connect with Meghan on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.zoominfo.com/">Learn more about ZoomInfo</a></p><p><a href="https://www.adweek.com/brand-marketing/zoominfo-b-to-c-b-to-b-campaign-ads/">Read the AdWeek article on ZoomInfo’s collaboration with Colossus</a></p><p><a href="https://www.zoominfo.com/plays">Check out ZoomInfo’s go-to-market plays</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Taylor Swift: B2B Marketing Lessons on Brand Voice with Meghan Barr, VP of Brand, Content &amp; Communications at ZoomInfo</itunes:title>
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Because a strong brand voice helps you stand out, drives brand affinity, and improves conversion rates. But where do you even start? What tone do you use? How wordy or concise should you be? We have answers for you. 

We’re tuning in to the Queen of brand voice today: Taylor Swift. Along with VP of Brand, Content and Communications at ZoomInfo, Meghan Barr, we’re exploring how Taylor Swift listens to her audience, how she defines her writing style, and how that changes with each reinvention. So grab your glitter pen and take notes on this episode of Remarkable.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Nailing down your brand voice is tough. Especially when you’re writing content for videos, blogs, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok…we could go on forever. 

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      <description><![CDATA[<p>You can learn a lot by looking at the past. Especially at an era that shaped how we think of marketing today. Today, we’re traveling back in time. And we’re doing it in style.</p><p>Come with us to Madison Avenue in the 1960s, a formative time for advertising and marketing. It was the “Mad Men” that walked so the 21st Century marketers could run. And even though we’re equipped with technology, AI and all sorts of new digital tools, many of the cares and struggles feel familiar. But we’re not just turning to the past today to commiserate. We’re looking at case studies and learning from the classic masters of marketing…through the lens of Hollywood, of course.</p><p>In this episode, we’re turning to the series that brought marketing into pop culture and earned Lionsgate $26 million a year: <i>Mad Men</i>. Joining us is VP & Head of Marketing at G2, Palmer Houchins. Palmer and the Remarkable team are discussing how to balance delivering on your brand promise with connecting emotionally with your audience, being persistent with marketing ideas, and paying attention to all the little details. So put on your sharkskin suit and wingtip oxfords for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Palmer Houchins</strong></p><p>Palmer Houchins is the VP, Head of Marketing at G2. He previously served as a senior marketing leader and G2 customer at Mailchimp (acquired by Intuit) and CallRail ($125M+ in funding).</p><p>He is a veteran marketer with 15+ years of experience growing businesses, scaling teams and building brands.</p><p><strong>About G2</strong></p><p>G2 is the largest and most trusted software marketplace, helping 80 million people every year make smarter software decisions based on authentic peer reviews.</p><p><strong>About </strong><i><strong>Mad Men</strong></i></p><p><i>Mad Men</i> is a drama series about a prestigious New York ad agency called Sterling Cooper in the 1960s focusing on debauched ad executive Don Draper, who’s played by Jon Hamm. It also stars Elisabeth Moss, Christina Hendricks, January Jones, John Slattery and Vincent Kartheizer. The series was created by Matthew Weiner and produced by Lionsgate Television. It aired from 2007 to 2015. According to the pilot episode, the name “Mad Men” is short for Madison Men, or the men that worked on Madison Avenue in New York City. It won 16 Emmys, five Golden Globes, a Peabody award, averaged 2 million viewers over its run, and made Lionsgate about $26 million a year.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Mad Men</strong></i>:</p><ul><li><strong>Be persistent.</strong> If you have a cool idea for a marketing campaign, don’t let it drop. It’s only a matter of time before that idea becomes your next success. Writer Matthew Weiner wrote the script for <i>Mad Men</i> in 2001, but it didn’t get picked up until four years later. Palmer says, “Matthew Weiner was writing this script on his off time at The Sopranos where he was a writer and just had it in his back pocket. And he just kept trying to get it made, get it made, no one was interested. And then boom, this happens and it becomes one of the most successful shows of all time.” So hold onto those good ideas and advocate for them. If you believe they’re good ideas and worthy of being created, act with conviction.</li><li><strong>Pay attention to the details.</strong> Make sure every part of your design and marketing aligns with your brand. The logos, font, pictures, the messaging, are all a part of your image. Just like how every detail of the set and costuming in <i>Mad Men</i> are meticulously styled to make the viewer feel like they’re in New York City in the 1960s. According to an <a href="https://screenrant.com/mad-men-details-never-noticed/#costumes-reflected-historical-weather-patterns">article</a> by Zooey Norman on ScreenRant.com, “Every single secretary's desk included a small Rolodex in which each and every card was filled out with addresses and contact information. Their desks also contained documents formatted and filled out to appear like real notices, letters, and memos in order to create the illusion of a truly functional office.” That’s the level of detail you want to get into in your marketing. Every element matters.</li><li><strong>Deliver on your brand promise first, connect emotionally with your audience second.</strong> There’s a scene in <i>Mad Men </i>when they’re trying to win the Burger Chef business, and Peggy goes to the restaurant to do a focus group. Her goal is to hone in on the emotions of customers and what resonates with them. Palmer says, “you want that emotional connection, but your products also have to deliver on that basic thing. And so in a B2B context, we want to have that aspirational element. But we've also got to be able to just simply deliver on kind of a functional ROI level as well.” So focus on your brand promise first before tying it to emotional connection as well.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Too often we fall into that trap, and the same thinking of, ‘Well, this is popular, so we're just going to keep doing more of that,’ and not going against the grain, or zagging when everyone else is zigging. And I think that [Mad Men] is a testament to that thinking, especially as it relates to creativity.” - Palmer Houchins</p><p>“You can spend weeks and months and years crafting the perfect copy, but in our world, it's going to get A/B tested, it's going to get split tested, and the distribution of getting that out in front of people [isn’t] linear. You have to know that that piece of copy that you spend so much time writing, that might not be the first thing they see about your brand. That might be the 500th. That might be after they've already talked to a salesperson. It might be before. There's so much more complexity to marketing now.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”There's a lot of nostalgia in this show. They're using real products, like Coke, Heinz beans, Burger Chef, Hilton, Lucky Strike and Jaguar. Because they're real, it's cool to see an ad campaign for super common household brands. Giving the listener or the viewer some signposts that they're familiar with will go a long way.” - Ian Faison</p><p>“I think nostalgia is a part of it, but as someone who wasn't alive during the 60s, for me, it was almost like this exploration of history; a time to kind of live in that. And I think using real products, real elections and real world events is how they earmark it. It helps you tether to a different era.” - Palmer Houchins</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Palmer Houchins, VP & Head of Marketing at G2</p><p>[1:32] Why are we covering <i>Mad Men</i>?</p><p>[4:30] What does Palmer do at G2?</p><p>[6:09] What is <i>Mad Men</i> about?</p><p>[7:16] How was <i>Mad Men </i>made?</p><p>[13:47] What makes <i>Mad Men </i>remarkable?</p><p>[25:16] What are marketing lessons we can take away from <i>Mad Men</i>?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Mad-Men-Season-1/dp/B001A5HBAG">Watch Mad Men</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/palmerhouchins/">Connect with Palmer on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.g2.com/">Learn more about G2</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can learn a lot by looking at the past. Especially at an era that shaped how we think of marketing today. Today, we’re traveling back in time. And we’re doing it in style.</p><p>Come with us to Madison Avenue in the 1960s, a formative time for advertising and marketing. It was the “Mad Men” that walked so the 21st Century marketers could run. And even though we’re equipped with technology, AI and all sorts of new digital tools, many of the cares and struggles feel familiar. But we’re not just turning to the past today to commiserate. We’re looking at case studies and learning from the classic masters of marketing…through the lens of Hollywood, of course.</p><p>In this episode, we’re turning to the series that brought marketing into pop culture and earned Lionsgate $26 million a year: <i>Mad Men</i>. Joining us is VP & Head of Marketing at G2, Palmer Houchins. Palmer and the Remarkable team are discussing how to balance delivering on your brand promise with connecting emotionally with your audience, being persistent with marketing ideas, and paying attention to all the little details. So put on your sharkskin suit and wingtip oxfords for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Palmer Houchins</strong></p><p>Palmer Houchins is the VP, Head of Marketing at G2. 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According to the pilot episode, the name “Mad Men” is short for Madison Men, or the men that worked on Madison Avenue in New York City. It won 16 Emmys, five Golden Globes, a Peabody award, averaged 2 million viewers over its run, and made Lionsgate about $26 million a year.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From</strong><i><strong> Mad Men</strong></i>:</p><ul><li><strong>Be persistent.</strong> If you have a cool idea for a marketing campaign, don’t let it drop. It’s only a matter of time before that idea becomes your next success. Writer Matthew Weiner wrote the script for <i>Mad Men</i> in 2001, but it didn’t get picked up until four years later. Palmer says, “Matthew Weiner was writing this script on his off time at The Sopranos where he was a writer and just had it in his back pocket. And he just kept trying to get it made, get it made, no one was interested. 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Their desks also contained documents formatted and filled out to appear like real notices, letters, and memos in order to create the illusion of a truly functional office.” That’s the level of detail you want to get into in your marketing. Every element matters.</li><li><strong>Deliver on your brand promise first, connect emotionally with your audience second.</strong> There’s a scene in <i>Mad Men </i>when they’re trying to win the Burger Chef business, and Peggy goes to the restaurant to do a focus group. Her goal is to hone in on the emotions of customers and what resonates with them. Palmer says, “you want that emotional connection, but your products also have to deliver on that basic thing. And so in a B2B context, we want to have that aspirational element. 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That might be after they've already talked to a salesperson. It might be before. There's so much more complexity to marketing now.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”There's a lot of nostalgia in this show. They're using real products, like Coke, Heinz beans, Burger Chef, Hilton, Lucky Strike and Jaguar. Because they're real, it's cool to see an ad campaign for super common household brands. Giving the listener or the viewer some signposts that they're familiar with will go a long way.” - Ian Faison</p><p>“I think nostalgia is a part of it, but as someone who wasn't alive during the 60s, for me, it was almost like this exploration of history; a time to kind of live in that. And I think using real products, real elections and real world events is how they earmark it. It helps you tether to a different era.” - Palmer Houchins</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Meet Palmer Houchins, VP & Head of Marketing at G2</p><p>[1:32] Why are we covering <i>Mad Men</i>?</p><p>[4:30] What does Palmer do at G2?</p><p>[6:09] What is <i>Mad Men</i> about?</p><p>[7:16] How was <i>Mad Men </i>made?</p><p>[13:47] What makes <i>Mad Men </i>remarkable?</p><p>[25:16] What are marketing lessons we can take away from <i>Mad Men</i>?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Mad-Men-Season-1/dp/B001A5HBAG">Watch Mad Men</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/palmerhouchins/">Connect with Palmer on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.g2.com/">Learn more about G2</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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In this episode, we’re turning to the series that brought marketing into pop culture and earned Lionsgate $26 million a year: Mad Men. Joining us is VP &amp; Head of Marketing at G2, Palmer Houchins. Palmer and the Remarkable team are discussing how to balance delivering on your brand promise with connecting emotionally with your audience, being persistent with marketing ideas, and paying attention to all the little details. So put on your sharkskin suit and wingtip oxfords for this episode of Remarkable.</itunes:summary>
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      <title>Air: B2B Marketing Lessons from Nike’s Creation of the Air Jordan with Martha Aviles, VP of Marketing at Gigster</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Fans of your brand are one step away from becoming advocates for your company. Help them cross that line by sweetening the deal.</p><p>Because if you can get fans to talk about why they love doing business with you, it’s the most effective way to do marketing; word of mouth is an extremely powerful tool proven to make sales. According to a <a href="https://www.nielsen.com/insights/2012/global-trust-in-advertising-and-brand-messages-2/">Nielsen report</a>, “92% of consumers around the world say they trust word-of-mouth or recommendations from friends and family, above all other forms of advertising.” </p><p>And when you can offer a referral program for customers, it incentivizes their brand advocacy. Our guest today, VP of Marketing at Gigster, Martha Aviles, says that word of mouth marketing paired with a referral program leads to an almost 100% close rate. </p><p>So in this episode, we’re talking with Martha about what leveraging referral programs looks like, how to break rules to create exclusive and unique content, and why there is always inherent risk in creating something truly remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Martha Aviles</strong></p><p>Martha Aviles is VP of Marketing at Austin-based Gigster, a firm that accelerates the delivery of digital transformation applications giving companies the agility to thrive in a software-defined world. With 20+ years of high-tech marketing experience in SaaS, semiconductor, networking, and network security at start-ups, private, and public companies, she is a fierce marketing leader. Martha has a gift for building and growing high-performance marketing teams, corporate brands, and inspiring thought leadership. Her extensive experience includes lead generation, integrated marketing, product marketing, digital marketing, public relations, brand management, analyst relations, and crisis communications. In addition, she has successfully led through 20+ mergers and acquisitions, including managing several integration and acquisition exits. Prior to joining Gigster, she was VP of Marketing at Austin-based Talroo, and also held senior leadership roles in marketing at RigUp (now Workrise) and Enverus - both of which have reached Unicorn status in Austin. Martha is an MBA graduate from the University of Texas and holds a BBA from Texas A&M University. Connect with her on LinkedIn at <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/maviles/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/maviles/</a></p><p><strong>About Gigster</strong></p><p>Gigster is a smart software development service that combines top developers, designers and product managers with artificial intelligence to build your project. Have your software reliably delivered at twice the speed, with end-to-end management and visibility.</p><p><strong>About Air</strong></p><p>Air is a sports drama based on the true story about Nike’s deal with Michael Jordan to create Air Jordans, the line of sneakers that is super popular today. In 1984, Nike was about to shut down its failing basketball shoe division. So in a last ditch effort, Nike’s basketball talent scout, Sonny Vaccaro, was sent to find a new spokesperson for Nike basketball sneakers. He advocated for the unlikely pick, rookie Michael Jordan, even though Jordan’s preferred brands were Adidas and Converse, and he would have n been too expensive for their budget. Nevertheless, the deal came through with the stipulation that Jordan would get a cut of every Air Jordan sold, and the Air Jordan was born. In its first year, the sneakers far exceeded expected sales of $3 million, and brought in $162 million. </p><p>The movie was directed by Ben Affleck and written by Alex Convery, and stars Damion Young as Michael Jordan, Viola Davis as his mother, Matt Damon as talent scout Sonny Vaccaro, and Ben Affleck as Nike co-founder and chief executive Phil Knight. It also stars Jason Bateman, Chris Messina, and Marlon Wayans, among others. It’s the first movie from Ben Affleck and Matt Damon’s new venture, a production company called Artist’s Equity. It’s an artist-led studio that will give creators a cut of the profit from projects. So Air was a conscious choice as their first film, as it reflected the ideal of giving a cut to the talent. </p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Air:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>It pays to do partner marketing. </strong>Leveraging partner marketing and offering incentives to your partners or brand advocates increases sales. Martha says, “There are some customers who will be advocates for you, and they're really, really happy with your services, and typically, birds of a feather flock together. If they recommend you, you give them a piece of the action. Things like that work. And those deals are typically almost a 100 percent close rate. It always pays exponentially.” Find customers who are willing to advocate for your brand and offer them a partner deal.</li><li><strong>Don’t rest on your laurels.</strong> Keep giving it your all no matter how long you’ve been in the business. Nike failed to do this when pitching an endorsement deal to Steph Curry in 2013, mispronouncing Steph’s name and leaving another athlete’s name on the PowerPoint deck when presenting. Needless to say they lost the deal because of their sloppiness in what ESPN has called “the worst endorsement pitch ever.” So tune in to what’s going on in your industry, experiment with new marketing techniques, and always <i>always </i>pay attention to the details.</li><li><strong>Break the rules.</strong> Don’t follow trends or do what all the other B2B brands are doing because you think you’ll be taken “seriously.” Instead, tune in to your brand values and create evergreen content. Martha says, “At the time, the NBA had a stipulation that the shoes had to be [mostly] white…Nike paid all of the fines for Michael Jordan to wear these red and black Jordans, which is how they launched. Before, Converse and Adidas were the shoe to wear and Nike's were like your dad's shoe, nobody wanted to wear those. But they brought in that cool factor…And then everybody wanted the shoe and they built the demand.” Be bold enough to break the rules and create demand for your unique content.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”There's so many times where we have to innovate or we have to figure something out when your back's up against the wall, but [Nike] knew they didn't really have anything to lose. That's how they were approaching it, because they were shutting down this division. It was either like, ‘We're not going to have basketball shoes,’ or ‘We're going to get Michael Jordan,’ you know? And they made the right bet, but it was a big bet.” - Martha Aviles</p><p>“If you're telling any type of marketing story, being able to start at the beginning with that uncertainty, with painting the picture in the audience's mind that this might not work, that this crazy thing might not happen…getting into the person's headspace of where they were in that moment, how they felt in that moment, is so important to the story.” - Ian Faison</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Introducing VP of Marketing at Gigster, Martha Aviles</p><p>[1:45] Why are we talking about Air?</p><p>[2:49] Learn about Martha’s role at Gigster</p><p>[3:58] Tell me more about the movie Air</p><p>[16:20] What marketing takeaways can we glean from Air?</p><p>[23:34] Learn about running customer referral programs</p><p>[31:31] What was Martha’s content strategy at Talroo?</p><p>[32:15] How does Martha view the ROI of content?</p><p>[33:57] What are exciting projects Martha is working on at Gigster?</p><p>[41:22] Exploring Lionel Messi’s deal with the MLS and Apple+ as a modern day example of athlete deals</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/AIR-Matt-Damon/dp/B0B8Q3JMCG">Watch Air</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/maviles/">Connect with Martha on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://gigster.com/">Learn more about Gigster</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 5 Oct 2023 19:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Jess Avellino, Meredith Gooderham, Ian Faison, Martha Aviles, Scott Goodrich)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fans of your brand are one step away from becoming advocates for your company. Help them cross that line by sweetening the deal.</p><p>Because if you can get fans to talk about why they love doing business with you, it’s the most effective way to do marketing; word of mouth is an extremely powerful tool proven to make sales. According to a <a href="https://www.nielsen.com/insights/2012/global-trust-in-advertising-and-brand-messages-2/">Nielsen report</a>, “92% of consumers around the world say they trust word-of-mouth or recommendations from friends and family, above all other forms of advertising.” </p><p>And when you can offer a referral program for customers, it incentivizes their brand advocacy. Our guest today, VP of Marketing at Gigster, Martha Aviles, says that word of mouth marketing paired with a referral program leads to an almost 100% close rate. </p><p>So in this episode, we’re talking with Martha about what leveraging referral programs looks like, how to break rules to create exclusive and unique content, and why there is always inherent risk in creating something truly remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Martha Aviles</strong></p><p>Martha Aviles is VP of Marketing at Austin-based Gigster, a firm that accelerates the delivery of digital transformation applications giving companies the agility to thrive in a software-defined world. With 20+ years of high-tech marketing experience in SaaS, semiconductor, networking, and network security at start-ups, private, and public companies, she is a fierce marketing leader. Martha has a gift for building and growing high-performance marketing teams, corporate brands, and inspiring thought leadership. Her extensive experience includes lead generation, integrated marketing, product marketing, digital marketing, public relations, brand management, analyst relations, and crisis communications. In addition, she has successfully led through 20+ mergers and acquisitions, including managing several integration and acquisition exits. Prior to joining Gigster, she was VP of Marketing at Austin-based Talroo, and also held senior leadership roles in marketing at RigUp (now Workrise) and Enverus - both of which have reached Unicorn status in Austin. Martha is an MBA graduate from the University of Texas and holds a BBA from Texas A&M University. Connect with her on LinkedIn at <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/maviles/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/maviles/</a></p><p><strong>About Gigster</strong></p><p>Gigster is a smart software development service that combines top developers, designers and product managers with artificial intelligence to build your project. Have your software reliably delivered at twice the speed, with end-to-end management and visibility.</p><p><strong>About Air</strong></p><p>Air is a sports drama based on the true story about Nike’s deal with Michael Jordan to create Air Jordans, the line of sneakers that is super popular today. In 1984, Nike was about to shut down its failing basketball shoe division. So in a last ditch effort, Nike’s basketball talent scout, Sonny Vaccaro, was sent to find a new spokesperson for Nike basketball sneakers. He advocated for the unlikely pick, rookie Michael Jordan, even though Jordan’s preferred brands were Adidas and Converse, and he would have n been too expensive for their budget. Nevertheless, the deal came through with the stipulation that Jordan would get a cut of every Air Jordan sold, and the Air Jordan was born. In its first year, the sneakers far exceeded expected sales of $3 million, and brought in $162 million. </p><p>The movie was directed by Ben Affleck and written by Alex Convery, and stars Damion Young as Michael Jordan, Viola Davis as his mother, Matt Damon as talent scout Sonny Vaccaro, and Ben Affleck as Nike co-founder and chief executive Phil Knight. It also stars Jason Bateman, Chris Messina, and Marlon Wayans, among others. It’s the first movie from Ben Affleck and Matt Damon’s new venture, a production company called Artist’s Equity. It’s an artist-led studio that will give creators a cut of the profit from projects. So Air was a conscious choice as their first film, as it reflected the ideal of giving a cut to the talent. </p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Air:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>It pays to do partner marketing. </strong>Leveraging partner marketing and offering incentives to your partners or brand advocates increases sales. Martha says, “There are some customers who will be advocates for you, and they're really, really happy with your services, and typically, birds of a feather flock together. If they recommend you, you give them a piece of the action. Things like that work. And those deals are typically almost a 100 percent close rate. It always pays exponentially.” Find customers who are willing to advocate for your brand and offer them a partner deal.</li><li><strong>Don’t rest on your laurels.</strong> Keep giving it your all no matter how long you’ve been in the business. Nike failed to do this when pitching an endorsement deal to Steph Curry in 2013, mispronouncing Steph’s name and leaving another athlete’s name on the PowerPoint deck when presenting. Needless to say they lost the deal because of their sloppiness in what ESPN has called “the worst endorsement pitch ever.” So tune in to what’s going on in your industry, experiment with new marketing techniques, and always <i>always </i>pay attention to the details.</li><li><strong>Break the rules.</strong> Don’t follow trends or do what all the other B2B brands are doing because you think you’ll be taken “seriously.” Instead, tune in to your brand values and create evergreen content. Martha says, “At the time, the NBA had a stipulation that the shoes had to be [mostly] white…Nike paid all of the fines for Michael Jordan to wear these red and black Jordans, which is how they launched. Before, Converse and Adidas were the shoe to wear and Nike's were like your dad's shoe, nobody wanted to wear those. But they brought in that cool factor…And then everybody wanted the shoe and they built the demand.” Be bold enough to break the rules and create demand for your unique content.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”There's so many times where we have to innovate or we have to figure something out when your back's up against the wall, but [Nike] knew they didn't really have anything to lose. That's how they were approaching it, because they were shutting down this division. It was either like, ‘We're not going to have basketball shoes,’ or ‘We're going to get Michael Jordan,’ you know? And they made the right bet, but it was a big bet.” - Martha Aviles</p><p>“If you're telling any type of marketing story, being able to start at the beginning with that uncertainty, with painting the picture in the audience's mind that this might not work, that this crazy thing might not happen…getting into the person's headspace of where they were in that moment, how they felt in that moment, is so important to the story.” - Ian Faison</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Introducing VP of Marketing at Gigster, Martha Aviles</p><p>[1:45] Why are we talking about Air?</p><p>[2:49] Learn about Martha’s role at Gigster</p><p>[3:58] Tell me more about the movie Air</p><p>[16:20] What marketing takeaways can we glean from Air?</p><p>[23:34] Learn about running customer referral programs</p><p>[31:31] What was Martha’s content strategy at Talroo?</p><p>[32:15] How does Martha view the ROI of content?</p><p>[33:57] What are exciting projects Martha is working on at Gigster?</p><p>[41:22] Exploring Lionel Messi’s deal with the MLS and Apple+ as a modern day example of athlete deals</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/AIR-Matt-Damon/dp/B0B8Q3JMCG">Watch Air</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/maviles/">Connect with Martha on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://gigster.com/">Learn more about Gigster</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>The Matrix: B2B Marketing Lessons from the Academy Award-Winning Movie with Anja Simic, Director of Content Marketing at Deel</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Wake up. There’s a glitch in the matrix. That’s because we’re seeing deja vu - your campaigns are starting to look the same. Need some fresh ideas? We’re here for you.</p><p>But in reality (what is reality anyway?) you don’t have to come up with the freshest never-before-seen content. You just have to pull from all of your favorite pieces of content. Take the inspiring bits. All of them. And put them together to make something new.</p><p>See, the creators of The Matrix, the Wachowski’s, even said they took “<a href="https://www.bfi.org.uk/features/matrix-wachowskis-keanu-reeves">every idea we've ever had in our f***ing lives</a>” and put it into the Matrix. Based on the ideas from French philosopher Jean Baudrillard, they also pulled from the techno scene, anime, martial arts, and more. There are even references to Alice in Wonderland and The Wizard of Oz, these very familiar cultural symbols. And yet when The Matrix was released, it was something fresh. It received wide acclaim, won Academy Awards, and basically broke the box office, bringing in over $460 million. </p><p>So in this episode, we’re going down the rabbit hole of marketing lessons we can learn from the 1999 film with the help of Deel’s Director of Content Marketing, Anja Simic. Together, we discuss how to pull your inspiration into your B2B marketing, create educational content that preempts audience questions about your product or service, and call out audience pain points. So put on your very dark, very tiny sunglasses for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Anja Simic</strong></p><p>Anja Simic is Director of Content Marketing at Deel. She has been with the company over 4 years, having started in December 2018 as Senior Content Marketing Manager. Prior to Deel, she served as Digital Media Coordinator at Impact Hub Network.</p><p><strong>About Deel</strong></p><p>Deel is the all-in-one HR platform for global teams. It helps companies simplify every aspect of managing an international workforce, from culture and onboarding, to local payroll and compliance. Deel works for independent contractors and full-time employees in more than 150 countries, compliantly. And getting set up takes just a few minutes. For more information, visit Deel.com</p><p><strong>About The Matrix</strong></p><p>The Matrix is a sci-fi action movie about a computer programer who discovers that the world as we know it is a simulation. In this awakening, he finds out that machines have created the simulation to distract humans and are using his body as an energy source in the meantime. He bands together with other people who have been freed from The Matrix to rebel against the machines. The 1999 movie stars Keanu Reeves as Neo, Carrie-Anne Moss as Trinity, Laurence Fishburne as Morpheus, and Hugo Weaving as Agent Smith.</p><p>The Matrix was created by Lana and Lily Wachowski, known professionally as The Wachowskis. They had only written and directed one movie before - Bound, a 1996 neo-noir crime thriller. Now they’re now known for V for Vendetta, Cloud Atlas, and more. The Matrix was made when the Wachowskis were asked by a friend to develop an original comic book concept, which they started working on in 1992. It began with the idea that everything in our world is a simulation in a digital universe, an idea inspired by French postmodern philosopher Jean Baudrillard (1929 - 2007). Baudrillard believed that we have lost all ability to make sense of the distinction between nature and artifice. In the movie, the Wachowskis nod to Baudrillard when Neo hides his contraband software in a hollowed-out copy of "Simulacra and Simulation," a book by Baudrillard. The idea that “our reality” is a simulation allowed the Wachowskis to explore and experiment with special effects and camera tricks to make many iconic and memorable scenes, like the bending spoon and the slow-mo bullet dodging scene. The style of the movie is influenced by cyberpunk, anime, and martial arts. </p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From The Matrix:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Combine all of the ideas you’ve ever had.</strong> That’s exactly what the Wachowski’s did when they developed the story of The Matrix. They pulled inspiration from the techno movement, anime, martial arts, and cyberpunk as well as the postmodern philosopher Jean Baudrillard to create something totally new, but whose references were recognizable. This made The Matrix accessible and not totally foreign while also being inspired and thought provoking. So pull in those ideas and make something totally new!</li><li><strong>Present complex products in an understandable way.</strong> Use clear visuals and straight-forward language that appeals to both the technical buyer and the layman. By speaking to both, you increase your potential customers. Anja says, “When you're talking about a product, you are trying to explain it in a way that's relatable to your potential buyer, to a prospect. So you're trying to find the words, use the visuals, use the brand, everything in your power to respond to a need. The Matrix is doing the same. So it's based on the very complex philosophy of postmodernism, but the movie presents it in a way that's very light, that is relatable.”</li><li><strong>Call out your audience’s pain points. </strong>This grabs their attention and sounds like you’re talking directly to them. Trinity does this when she meets with Neo in the nightclub. She says, “I know why you're here, Neo. I know what you've been doing... why you hardly sleep, why you live alone, and why night after night, you sit by your computer.” Neo immediately knows that Trinity has been paying attention to him, understands what he’s going through, and that it’s important to her. Which is exactly how your audience will feel if you do the same.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>“There is some hesitancy from marketers to not want to pull in a bunch of different things that they like and put them together. But that's what makes [The Matrix] feel so cool and different. The cramming of worlds together in that way is what makes this feel so unique. So like, take a few things that you are really passionate about - content that you love - and just put it together.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*“I think you need to be really flexible with [your content strategy] because the markets change, the business landscape changes the economic factors change. So what you devise as a plan for this year might not work next year because we are living in very uncertain times. We don't know how the next few years are going to look. So being lean and flexible is the right way to address any strategy, but content strategy in particular.” - Anja Simic</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Introducing Director of Content Marketing at Deel, Anja Simic</p><p>[1:50] Why are we talking about The Matrix?</p><p>[4:22] Tell me more about The Matrix</p><p>[8:52] What makes The Matrix remarkable?</p><p>[11:11] What are some marketing lessons we can take away from The Matrix?</p><p>[33:49] How does Anja think about content at Deel?</p><p>[36:58] How does Anja prove the ROI of content?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.ed68472f-1421-417d-800b-0cfdb21db71c?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch The Matrix</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anja-simic-86120859/">Connect with Anja on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.deel.com/">Learn more about Deel</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 3 Oct 2023 20:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Anja Simic, Ian Faison, Meredith Gooderham, Jess Avellino, Scott Goodrich)</author>
      <link>https://www.caspianstudios.com/remarkable</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wake up. There’s a glitch in the matrix. That’s because we’re seeing deja vu - your campaigns are starting to look the same. Need some fresh ideas? We’re here for you.</p><p>But in reality (what is reality anyway?) you don’t have to come up with the freshest never-before-seen content. You just have to pull from all of your favorite pieces of content. Take the inspiring bits. All of them. And put them together to make something new.</p><p>See, the creators of The Matrix, the Wachowski’s, even said they took “<a href="https://www.bfi.org.uk/features/matrix-wachowskis-keanu-reeves">every idea we've ever had in our f***ing lives</a>” and put it into the Matrix. Based on the ideas from French philosopher Jean Baudrillard, they also pulled from the techno scene, anime, martial arts, and more. There are even references to Alice in Wonderland and The Wizard of Oz, these very familiar cultural symbols. And yet when The Matrix was released, it was something fresh. It received wide acclaim, won Academy Awards, and basically broke the box office, bringing in over $460 million. </p><p>So in this episode, we’re going down the rabbit hole of marketing lessons we can learn from the 1999 film with the help of Deel’s Director of Content Marketing, Anja Simic. Together, we discuss how to pull your inspiration into your B2B marketing, create educational content that preempts audience questions about your product or service, and call out audience pain points. So put on your very dark, very tiny sunglasses for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Anja Simic</strong></p><p>Anja Simic is Director of Content Marketing at Deel. She has been with the company over 4 years, having started in December 2018 as Senior Content Marketing Manager. Prior to Deel, she served as Digital Media Coordinator at Impact Hub Network.</p><p><strong>About Deel</strong></p><p>Deel is the all-in-one HR platform for global teams. It helps companies simplify every aspect of managing an international workforce, from culture and onboarding, to local payroll and compliance. Deel works for independent contractors and full-time employees in more than 150 countries, compliantly. And getting set up takes just a few minutes. For more information, visit Deel.com</p><p><strong>About The Matrix</strong></p><p>The Matrix is a sci-fi action movie about a computer programer who discovers that the world as we know it is a simulation. In this awakening, he finds out that machines have created the simulation to distract humans and are using his body as an energy source in the meantime. He bands together with other people who have been freed from The Matrix to rebel against the machines. The 1999 movie stars Keanu Reeves as Neo, Carrie-Anne Moss as Trinity, Laurence Fishburne as Morpheus, and Hugo Weaving as Agent Smith.</p><p>The Matrix was created by Lana and Lily Wachowski, known professionally as The Wachowskis. They had only written and directed one movie before - Bound, a 1996 neo-noir crime thriller. Now they’re now known for V for Vendetta, Cloud Atlas, and more. The Matrix was made when the Wachowskis were asked by a friend to develop an original comic book concept, which they started working on in 1992. It began with the idea that everything in our world is a simulation in a digital universe, an idea inspired by French postmodern philosopher Jean Baudrillard (1929 - 2007). Baudrillard believed that we have lost all ability to make sense of the distinction between nature and artifice. In the movie, the Wachowskis nod to Baudrillard when Neo hides his contraband software in a hollowed-out copy of "Simulacra and Simulation," a book by Baudrillard. The idea that “our reality” is a simulation allowed the Wachowskis to explore and experiment with special effects and camera tricks to make many iconic and memorable scenes, like the bending spoon and the slow-mo bullet dodging scene. The style of the movie is influenced by cyberpunk, anime, and martial arts. </p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From The Matrix:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Combine all of the ideas you’ve ever had.</strong> That’s exactly what the Wachowski’s did when they developed the story of The Matrix. They pulled inspiration from the techno movement, anime, martial arts, and cyberpunk as well as the postmodern philosopher Jean Baudrillard to create something totally new, but whose references were recognizable. This made The Matrix accessible and not totally foreign while also being inspired and thought provoking. So pull in those ideas and make something totally new!</li><li><strong>Present complex products in an understandable way.</strong> Use clear visuals and straight-forward language that appeals to both the technical buyer and the layman. By speaking to both, you increase your potential customers. Anja says, “When you're talking about a product, you are trying to explain it in a way that's relatable to your potential buyer, to a prospect. So you're trying to find the words, use the visuals, use the brand, everything in your power to respond to a need. The Matrix is doing the same. So it's based on the very complex philosophy of postmodernism, but the movie presents it in a way that's very light, that is relatable.”</li><li><strong>Call out your audience’s pain points. </strong>This grabs their attention and sounds like you’re talking directly to them. Trinity does this when she meets with Neo in the nightclub. She says, “I know why you're here, Neo. I know what you've been doing... why you hardly sleep, why you live alone, and why night after night, you sit by your computer.” Neo immediately knows that Trinity has been paying attention to him, understands what he’s going through, and that it’s important to her. Which is exactly how your audience will feel if you do the same.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>“There is some hesitancy from marketers to not want to pull in a bunch of different things that they like and put them together. But that's what makes [The Matrix] feel so cool and different. The cramming of worlds together in that way is what makes this feel so unique. So like, take a few things that you are really passionate about - content that you love - and just put it together.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*“I think you need to be really flexible with [your content strategy] because the markets change, the business landscape changes the economic factors change. So what you devise as a plan for this year might not work next year because we are living in very uncertain times. We don't know how the next few years are going to look. So being lean and flexible is the right way to address any strategy, but content strategy in particular.” - Anja Simic</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Introducing Director of Content Marketing at Deel, Anja Simic</p><p>[1:50] Why are we talking about The Matrix?</p><p>[4:22] Tell me more about The Matrix</p><p>[8:52] What makes The Matrix remarkable?</p><p>[11:11] What are some marketing lessons we can take away from The Matrix?</p><p>[33:49] How does Anja think about content at Deel?</p><p>[36:58] How does Anja prove the ROI of content?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.ed68472f-1421-417d-800b-0cfdb21db71c?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch The Matrix</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anja-simic-86120859/">Connect with Anja on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.deel.com/">Learn more about Deel</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>Wake up. There’s a glitch in the matrix. That’s because we’re seeing deja vu - your campaigns are starting to look the same. Need some fresh ideas? We’re here for you.

But in reality (what is reality anyway?) you don’t have to come up with the freshest never-before-seen content. You just have to pull from all of your favorite pieces of content. Take the inspiring bits. All of them. And put them together to make something new.

See, the creators of The Matrix, the Wachowski’s, even said they took “every idea we&apos;ve ever had in our f***ing lives” and put it into the Matrix. Based on the ideas from French philosopher Jean Baudrillard, they also pulled from the techno scene, anime, martial arts, and more. There are even references to Alice in Wonderland and The Wizard of Oz, these very familiar cultural symbols. And yet when The Matrix was released, it was something fresh. It received wide acclaim, won Academy Awards, and basically broke the box office, bringing in over $460 million. 
 
So in this episode, we’re going down the rabbit hole of marketing lessons we can learn from the 1999 film with the help of Deel’s Director of Content Marketing, Anja Simic. Together, we discuss how to pull your inspiration into your B2B marketing, create educational content that preempts audience questions about your product or service, and call out audience pain points. So put on your very dark, very tiny sunglasses for this episode of Remarkable. </itunes:summary>
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But in reality (what is reality anyway?) you don’t have to come up with the freshest never-before-seen content. You just have to pull from all of your favorite pieces of content. Take the inspiring bits. All of them. And put them together to make something new.

See, the creators of The Matrix, the Wachowski’s, even said they took “every idea we&apos;ve ever had in our f***ing lives” and put it into the Matrix. Based on the ideas from French philosopher Jean Baudrillard, they also pulled from the techno scene, anime, martial arts, and more. There are even references to Alice in Wonderland and The Wizard of Oz, these very familiar cultural symbols. And yet when The Matrix was released, it was something fresh. It received wide acclaim, won Academy Awards, and basically broke the box office, bringing in over $460 million. 
 
So in this episode, we’re going down the rabbit hole of marketing lessons we can learn from the 1999 film with the help of Deel’s Director of Content Marketing, Anja Simic. Together, we discuss how to pull your inspiration into your B2B marketing, create educational content that preempts audience questions about your product or service, and call out audience pain points. So put on your very dark, very tiny sunglasses for this episode of Remarkable. </itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>The Muppets: B2B Marketing Lessons from Muppet Theory with Gillian Jakob Kieser, Director of Content Marketing at CircleCI</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Are you a chaos muppet or an order muppet? Knowing the answer to this very important question can help you unlock your B2B marketing potential. Here’s why.</p><p>There’s magic chemistry that happens when a chaos muppet joins forces with an order muppet. (Replace the word “muppet” with “marketer” in this instance.) It’s like a marketing power couple. You need the wildly outside-of-the-box thinking of the chaos side tempered with the composed, organized, planning mind of the order side to create truly remarkable content. It’s these two energies that work synchronistically to create content worth talking about.</p><p>So in this episode, we’re looking back at nearly 70 years of Muppet history and one Slate article that made us ponder, “What kind of muppet am I?” And break down all of the wild and wondrous things muppets can teach us about B2B marketing with the help of CircleCI’s Director of Content Marketing, Gillian Jakob Kieser. Together, we talk about allowing some of that chaos into your campaigns, developing useful and evergreen content, and how to work through the riskiness of creating something original in this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About CircleCI</strong></p><p>CircleCI lets teams build fully-automated pipelines, from testing to deployment, allowing them to focus on the real work of innovation. Using CircleCI, engineers can automate their entire testing suite for new commits, reducing the potential for human error, while using orbs to automate deploys.</p><p><strong>About The Muppets and Muppet Chaos Theory</strong></p><p>The Muppets is an American television show featuring a cast of puppets performing various skits. The beloved characters include Kermit, Miss Piggy, Rowlf, Fozzie Bear, Gonzo, Beaker, Animal, The Swedish Chef, and more. It was created by Jim Henson in 1955, and has been around for nearly 7 decades. It was originally a short-form tv show called Sam and Friends, and it’s now grown into a media franchise with lots of spin offs including movies, music, and tv appearances. The franchise was owned by The Jim Henson Company until 2004 when Disney bought it. Jim Henson once suggested that the term “muppet” comes from combining the words “puppet” and “marionette.”</p><p>Muppet Theory is a theory posed by Slate writer Dahlia Lithwick that everyone in the world is either a chaos muppet or an order muppet. Chaos muppets are crazy, volatile, unpredictable. Like Animal, Cookie Monster, or The Swedish Chef. Order muppets are anxious, neurotic and don’t like surprises. Like Kermit the Frog, Scooter, or Sam the Eagle. Order muppets often choose Chaos muppets as lifelong partners, like Bert the order muppet and Ernie the chaos muppet or  Kermit as the order muppet and Miss Piggy as the chaos one.</p><p><strong>About our guest, </strong><a href="mailto:gillian@circleci.com"><strong>Gillian Jakob Kieser</strong></a></p><p>Gillian Jakob Kieser is Director of Content Marketing at CircleCI. She has been with CircleCI for over six years, having started in June 2017 as Content Marketing Manager, and their first content hire as a growing startup. She has also served in marketing roles at companies like Prismatic and MAKE Magazine.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From The Muppets and Muppet Theory: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Incorporate both chaos and order into your marketing.</strong> Team up with your chaos or order counterpart to make new content. Or create some content that’s very structured and some that’s very unstructured. Gillian says that it’s these different energies that make successful collaborations in marketing. “They really need to have both the order aspect and the chaos aspect to make something feel alive and authentic. If you over plan it, it's dead in the water. It's dry and predictable. And if it's too much chaos, you never can get it out the door because no one knows what time anything is happening. So you always need to have both order and chaos on a team or in a program.”</li><li><strong>Mix the real and the fantastical.</strong> This creates playful and captivating visuals, and engages the viewers’ willing suspension of disbelief. Gillian says, “There's this aspect of these fantastical creatures in a real world scenario that appeals to adults as well as children. Because children really have a sense for the authentic, and they know that there's something about this world that is real and that they can learn from, that it's not just watered down and catered to them. There's something about that that I think has set them apart and has always been really appealing.”</li><li><strong>Trust the intelligence of your audience.</strong> The Muppet Show is not just for children. There were signs in the cigarette-smoking, Studebaker-driving scenes that Jim Henson was appealing to more mature viewers as well. Like Jim Henson, give your audience all the information you have for them, and don’t oversimplify it. Gillian says, “Jim Henson and his crew never played down to their audience. There was so much intelligence and so many references, and it was very high reaching for something that could have conceivably been, ‘Oh, this is just for kids.’ It feels like Jim Henson was the first one in exploring that space, of elevating this art form to something that had a lot of depth that you wouldn't expect to see coming from puppets.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“[The Muppets is] a testament to taking risks, just going for it and not knowing. It might not have worked out, but it did in the long run. Some of our efforts at creative projects, branding or anything else like that are sometimes a little bit of a shot in the dark.” - Gillian Jakob Kieser</p><p>*”I was thinking, ‘Okay, where is there order and chaos in our current content strategy?’ The blog is very orderly. We've learned a lot about SEO and how to answer people’s questions with technical tutorials. And then we've got a podcast with our CTO interviewing folks. That's much more of a chaos aspect because you never know where the conversation's gonna go, but he's standing in and asking the questions that the audience wants to ask. And it's very funny and we're not selling in that show at all. We're creating affinity, trust, informing, educating and being able to share our perspective on how our industry works with others.” - Gillian Jakob Kieser</p><p>*”The ad copy is another place where we test wildly. There's been times when we throw in something that's ungrammatical because you know it's gonna catch someone's eye. Or put a question mark at the end of something to get their attention. And then you can make the connection. But that order and chaos marriage shows up everywhere.” - Gillian Jakob Kieser</p><p>*”There's a time and a place for things. There's concentric circles of stuff that needs to be really on brand that the legal team needs to look at and everyone has to check off on it. And then stuff that as you get further out has more of a buffer of forgiveness for being off-brand at times.” - Gillian Jakob Kieser</p><p>*”If you want to feel like your entire brand is super buttoned up always, and it's only on official channels, you have to know that your marketing is gonna be boring. Because there's no humanity in it. People buy people. If you're trying to get people to commit to you with emotion and you're using the opposite of that, how effective is it really gonna be?” - Ian Faison</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:54] Introducing CircleCI Director of Content Marketing, Gillian Jakob Kieser</p><p>[1:39] Why are we talking about The Muppets?</p><p>[4:03] Learn more about Gillian’s role as Director of Content Marketing at CircleCI</p><p>[5:33] What are The Muppets?</p><p>[8:37] How did Jim Henson create evergreen content in The Muppets?</p><p>[10:54] How do you work through the riskiness of making original content?</p><p>[15:04] What is Muppet Chaos Theory?</p><p>[16:59] How does Muppet Chaos Theory apply to collaborative work and marketing?</p><p>[21:00] How does CircleCI use chaos and order in their marketing strategy?</p><p>[31:09] How to humanize your content, and the value of human-generated content in the age of AI</p><p>[34:24] What’s Gillian’s content strategy at CircleCI?</p><p>[37:30] The difference in making remarkable evergreen content versus sensational content</p><p>[39:09] How did Gillian grow her team and advocate for the value of more content creators?</p><p>[41:57] How do you choose the channels worth posting content to?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.disneyplus.com/series/the-muppet-show/Rgks70YwIkSw?distributionPartner=google">Watch The Muppet Show</a></p><p><a href="https://slate.com/human-interest/2012/06/chaos-theory.html">Read the Slate article</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gillian-jakob-kieser/">Connect with Gillian on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://circleci.com/">Learn more about CircleCI</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you a chaos muppet or an order muppet? Knowing the answer to this very important question can help you unlock your B2B marketing potential. Here’s why.</p><p>There’s magic chemistry that happens when a chaos muppet joins forces with an order muppet. (Replace the word “muppet” with “marketer” in this instance.) It’s like a marketing power couple. You need the wildly outside-of-the-box thinking of the chaos side tempered with the composed, organized, planning mind of the order side to create truly remarkable content. It’s these two energies that work synchronistically to create content worth talking about.</p><p>So in this episode, we’re looking back at nearly 70 years of Muppet history and one Slate article that made us ponder, “What kind of muppet am I?” And break down all of the wild and wondrous things muppets can teach us about B2B marketing with the help of CircleCI’s Director of Content Marketing, Gillian Jakob Kieser. Together, we talk about allowing some of that chaos into your campaigns, developing useful and evergreen content, and how to work through the riskiness of creating something original in this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About CircleCI</strong></p><p>CircleCI lets teams build fully-automated pipelines, from testing to deployment, allowing them to focus on the real work of innovation. Using CircleCI, engineers can automate their entire testing suite for new commits, reducing the potential for human error, while using orbs to automate deploys.</p><p><strong>About The Muppets and Muppet Chaos Theory</strong></p><p>The Muppets is an American television show featuring a cast of puppets performing various skits. The beloved characters include Kermit, Miss Piggy, Rowlf, Fozzie Bear, Gonzo, Beaker, Animal, The Swedish Chef, and more. It was created by Jim Henson in 1955, and has been around for nearly 7 decades. It was originally a short-form tv show called Sam and Friends, and it’s now grown into a media franchise with lots of spin offs including movies, music, and tv appearances. The franchise was owned by The Jim Henson Company until 2004 when Disney bought it. Jim Henson once suggested that the term “muppet” comes from combining the words “puppet” and “marionette.”</p><p>Muppet Theory is a theory posed by Slate writer Dahlia Lithwick that everyone in the world is either a chaos muppet or an order muppet. Chaos muppets are crazy, volatile, unpredictable. Like Animal, Cookie Monster, or The Swedish Chef. Order muppets are anxious, neurotic and don’t like surprises. Like Kermit the Frog, Scooter, or Sam the Eagle. Order muppets often choose Chaos muppets as lifelong partners, like Bert the order muppet and Ernie the chaos muppet or  Kermit as the order muppet and Miss Piggy as the chaos one.</p><p><strong>About our guest, </strong><a href="mailto:gillian@circleci.com"><strong>Gillian Jakob Kieser</strong></a></p><p>Gillian Jakob Kieser is Director of Content Marketing at CircleCI. She has been with CircleCI for over six years, having started in June 2017 as Content Marketing Manager, and their first content hire as a growing startup. She has also served in marketing roles at companies like Prismatic and MAKE Magazine.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From The Muppets and Muppet Theory: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Incorporate both chaos and order into your marketing.</strong> Team up with your chaos or order counterpart to make new content. Or create some content that’s very structured and some that’s very unstructured. Gillian says that it’s these different energies that make successful collaborations in marketing. “They really need to have both the order aspect and the chaos aspect to make something feel alive and authentic. If you over plan it, it's dead in the water. It's dry and predictable. And if it's too much chaos, you never can get it out the door because no one knows what time anything is happening. So you always need to have both order and chaos on a team or in a program.”</li><li><strong>Mix the real and the fantastical.</strong> This creates playful and captivating visuals, and engages the viewers’ willing suspension of disbelief. Gillian says, “There's this aspect of these fantastical creatures in a real world scenario that appeals to adults as well as children. Because children really have a sense for the authentic, and they know that there's something about this world that is real and that they can learn from, that it's not just watered down and catered to them. There's something about that that I think has set them apart and has always been really appealing.”</li><li><strong>Trust the intelligence of your audience.</strong> The Muppet Show is not just for children. There were signs in the cigarette-smoking, Studebaker-driving scenes that Jim Henson was appealing to more mature viewers as well. Like Jim Henson, give your audience all the information you have for them, and don’t oversimplify it. Gillian says, “Jim Henson and his crew never played down to their audience. There was so much intelligence and so many references, and it was very high reaching for something that could have conceivably been, ‘Oh, this is just for kids.’ It feels like Jim Henson was the first one in exploring that space, of elevating this art form to something that had a lot of depth that you wouldn't expect to see coming from puppets.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“[The Muppets is] a testament to taking risks, just going for it and not knowing. It might not have worked out, but it did in the long run. Some of our efforts at creative projects, branding or anything else like that are sometimes a little bit of a shot in the dark.” - Gillian Jakob Kieser</p><p>*”I was thinking, ‘Okay, where is there order and chaos in our current content strategy?’ The blog is very orderly. We've learned a lot about SEO and how to answer people’s questions with technical tutorials. And then we've got a podcast with our CTO interviewing folks. That's much more of a chaos aspect because you never know where the conversation's gonna go, but he's standing in and asking the questions that the audience wants to ask. And it's very funny and we're not selling in that show at all. We're creating affinity, trust, informing, educating and being able to share our perspective on how our industry works with others.” - Gillian Jakob Kieser</p><p>*”The ad copy is another place where we test wildly. There's been times when we throw in something that's ungrammatical because you know it's gonna catch someone's eye. Or put a question mark at the end of something to get their attention. And then you can make the connection. But that order and chaos marriage shows up everywhere.” - Gillian Jakob Kieser</p><p>*”There's a time and a place for things. There's concentric circles of stuff that needs to be really on brand that the legal team needs to look at and everyone has to check off on it. And then stuff that as you get further out has more of a buffer of forgiveness for being off-brand at times.” - Gillian Jakob Kieser</p><p>*”If you want to feel like your entire brand is super buttoned up always, and it's only on official channels, you have to know that your marketing is gonna be boring. Because there's no humanity in it. People buy people. If you're trying to get people to commit to you with emotion and you're using the opposite of that, how effective is it really gonna be?” - Ian Faison</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:54] Introducing CircleCI Director of Content Marketing, Gillian Jakob Kieser</p><p>[1:39] Why are we talking about The Muppets?</p><p>[4:03] Learn more about Gillian’s role as Director of Content Marketing at CircleCI</p><p>[5:33] What are The Muppets?</p><p>[8:37] How did Jim Henson create evergreen content in The Muppets?</p><p>[10:54] How do you work through the riskiness of making original content?</p><p>[15:04] What is Muppet Chaos Theory?</p><p>[16:59] How does Muppet Chaos Theory apply to collaborative work and marketing?</p><p>[21:00] How does CircleCI use chaos and order in their marketing strategy?</p><p>[31:09] How to humanize your content, and the value of human-generated content in the age of AI</p><p>[34:24] What’s Gillian’s content strategy at CircleCI?</p><p>[37:30] The difference in making remarkable evergreen content versus sensational content</p><p>[39:09] How did Gillian grow her team and advocate for the value of more content creators?</p><p>[41:57] How do you choose the channels worth posting content to?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.disneyplus.com/series/the-muppet-show/Rgks70YwIkSw?distributionPartner=google">Watch The Muppet Show</a></p><p><a href="https://slate.com/human-interest/2012/06/chaos-theory.html">Read the Slate article</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gillian-jakob-kieser/">Connect with Gillian on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://circleci.com/">Learn more about CircleCI</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>Are you a chaos muppet or an order muppet? Knowing the answer to this very important question can help you unlock your B2B marketing potential. Here’s why.

There’s magic chemistry that happens when a chaos muppet joins forces with an order muppet. (Replace the word “muppet” with “marketer” in this instance.) It’s like a marketing power couple. You need the wildly outside-of-the-box thinking of the chaos side tempered with the composed, organized, planning mind of the order side to create truly remarkable content. It’s these two energies that work synchronistically to create content worth talking about.

So in this episode, we’re looking back at nearly 70 years of Muppet history and one Slate article that made us ponder, “What kind of muppet am I?” And break down all of the wild and wondrous things muppets can teach us about B2B marketing with the help of CircleCI’s Director of Content Marketing, Gillian Jakob Kieser. Together, we talk about allowing some of that chaos into your campaigns, developing useful and evergreen content, and how to work through the riskiness of creating something original in this episode of Remarkable.</itunes:summary>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Picture this: tens thousands of fans screaming from the top of their lungs for more content from you, the B2B marketer.</p><p>It may sound more like how people react to superstars like Taylor Swift; there are tactics she uses in her branding that inspire intense fandom, like how Swifties can wear red lipstick, make beaded bracelets or decode hidden messages in her Instagram posts to own a bit of her brand for themselves. It’s all a part of a culture that Taylor Swift and her team of amazing marketers have meticulously cultivated over time. But who’s to say B2B marketers can’t borrow a bit of that marketing magic? </p><p>In this episode, we’re turning to the artist with more #1 albums than any other woman in history: Taylor Swift, and seeing what new B2B marketing ideas we can learn from her. What about her brand has inspired such passion; the kind of passion that is expected to bring in more than $1 billion in ticket sales from her current tour? Joining us is Senior Director of Content Marketing at Lob, Kim Courvoisier. Together, we’re talking about the marketing behind Taylor Swift’s record-breaking tour, creating a shareable brand, and refreshing content to give your audience even more value. So layer on your Swifty bracelets and maybe a little something sparkly for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About Lob</strong></p><p>Lob is the only direct mail automation platform for the digital age. Lob's platform automates the direct mail execution process for enterprises at any scale - from creation, printing, postage, delivery, and sustainability with end-to-end analytics and campaign attribution. Over 12,000 businesses trust Lob to transform their direct mail into intelligent mail. Founded in 2013 and based in San Francisco, Lob is venture-backed by Y Combinator, Polaris Partners, Floodgate, and First Round Capital.</p><p><strong>About Taylor Swift and The Eras Tour</strong></p><p>Taylor Swift is an American singer-songwriter who has <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/17/arts/music/taylor-swift-speak-now-billboard-chart-record.html">more #1 albums</a> than any other woman in history after her album “Speak Now (Taylor’s Version)” debuted at #1. The 33-year-old artist from Pennsylvania who was originally known for country music is known for her musical versatility and reinventing herself as an artist. As a cultural figure, she has had several high-profile news stories, including her dispute with Big Machine Records over ownership of the masters of her first 6 studio albums which led to her re-recording all of them, and another legal battle with Apple in 2015 over protecting artists’ rights to fair compensation for their work. She currently has 10 albums, and has sold 114 million albums worldwide. She’s won 12 Grammys, 19 Billboard Music Awards (the most of any woman), 40 American Music Awards, and more.  She has many trademarks, including hiding messages in her content, frequently using the number 13, wearing red lipstick, and going barefoot. Her fans call themselves Swifties.</p><p>The Eras Tour is a journey through all of Taylor Swift’s studio albums. It’s 131 concerts across five continents, and is expected to be the highest grossing tour in history. Tickets bring in more than $13 million a night, for an expected $1 billion+ overall. <a href="https://fortune.com/2023/06/30/taylor-swift-on-track-to-gross-more-than-1-billion-on-tour/">The average ticket</a> costs $254. The Philadelphia Federal Reserve even reported that the tour is boosting economic growth, specifically related to hotel revenue. Taylor Swift has a <a href="https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/graphics/2023/03/30/taylor-swift-eras-tour-setlist-breakdown/11510779002/">44-song set list</a> and the concert is 3-hours long. The tour started on March 17th in Glendale, Arizona which was <a href="https://www.azcentral.com/story/entertainment/music/2023/03/13/glendale-az-name-change-taylor-swift-eras-tour/69995759007/">officially renamed “Swift City”</a> for two days. The tour will <a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/economy/2023/07/14/federal-reserve-taylor-swift-eras-tour-boosting-economy-hotels/70413533007/">wrap up</a> on November 23rd, 2024 in Toronto.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Kim Courvoisier</strong></p><p>Kim Courvoisier is the Senior Director of Content Marketing at Lob, the only direct mail automation platform for the digital age. Kim is an experienced senior-level digital marketing leader with over 12 years of experience in SaaS marketing, specializing in B2B and B2C content marketing, social media, email marketing, customer lifecycle marketing, AI, and SEO. She is based in San Francisco, California.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Taylor Swift and The Eras Tour: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Re-use, recycle, repurpose your classic content.</strong> Look back at your past marketing content that did really well and see if you can get more juice out of it. Kim says, “A lot of times, I'll write an ebook, and it's like, ‘Okay, that was great for that campaign. Moving on,’ And I'm like, ‘No, no, no. That's all perfectly relevant content. We should reuse that, we should recycle it, we should repurpose that.’ And that's exactly what Taylor Swift is doing when she is re-releasing these albums because she's now driving eyeballs or ears back to that content.” So make the most of the content you’ve invested time and effort in in the past, and refresh it to give your customers added value today.</li><li><strong>Create a shareable culture around your brand.</strong> For Swifties, it’s making beaded bracelets, wearing the number 13, going barefoot, putting on red lipstick. And it inspires fans to create their own content or even make their own bracelets and sell them. Kim says, “It's helping this whole little generation become entrepreneurs, which I think is so incredible. I talk about marketing and [Taylor isn’t] keeping it for herself. She's sharing it with everyone, and I think there's no greater power as a marketer than to empower others. And she's absolutely doing that.” So extend your brand to include free elements that fans can own, get added value from, and make their own.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>“If your content isn't adding value, then you're just creating more noise.” - Kim Courvoisier</p><p> “When [Taylor Swift] re-releases an album, she actually adds new content to it. Like content from the vault that wasn't on the original edition. And so it's adding more value. So that would be like if I took an old ebook that I had written and then put on an extra bonus chapter and re-released it. So I think there's a ton of lessons we can learn as marketers to go back and refresh and repurpose our content. And I get a ton of inspiration from that.” - Kim Courvoisier</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:54] Meet Kim Courvoisier, Senior Director of Content Marketing at Lob</p><p>[1:32] Why are we covering Taylor Swift?</p><p>[4:04] Tell me more about Taylor Swift</p><p>[10:32] Learn more about the record-breaking Eras Tour</p><p>[16:54] How do you create a shareable culture?</p><p>[22:39] What are marketing lessons we can learn from The Eras Tour?</p><p>[24:58] How to repurpose classic content and give your audience added value</p><p>[33:55] How to make content appeal to people who aren’t currently in the “buying mode”</p><p>[36:34] How does Kim think about the ROI of content?</p><p>[42:57] What are Kim’s favorite pieces of content she’s made at Lob?</p><p>[45:15] Tell me more about Lob’s 2023 State of Direct Mail and Consumer Insights Reports</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/06HL4z0CvFAxyc27GXpf02?si=2ok_SujCS4ekMW3TqTA7Tw">Listen to Taylor Swift</a></p><p><a href="https://tstheerastour.taylorswift.com/">Learn more about The Eras Tour</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kim-courvoisier-517b945/">Connect with Kim on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.lob.com/">Learn more about Lob</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), and Meredith Gooderham (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Picture this: tens thousands of fans screaming from the top of their lungs for more content from you, the B2B marketer.</p><p>It may sound more like how people react to superstars like Taylor Swift; there are tactics she uses in her branding that inspire intense fandom, like how Swifties can wear red lipstick, make beaded bracelets or decode hidden messages in her Instagram posts to own a bit of her brand for themselves. It’s all a part of a culture that Taylor Swift and her team of amazing marketers have meticulously cultivated over time. But who’s to say B2B marketers can’t borrow a bit of that marketing magic? </p><p>In this episode, we’re turning to the artist with more #1 albums than any other woman in history: Taylor Swift, and seeing what new B2B marketing ideas we can learn from her. What about her brand has inspired such passion; the kind of passion that is expected to bring in more than $1 billion in ticket sales from her current tour? Joining us is Senior Director of Content Marketing at Lob, Kim Courvoisier. Together, we’re talking about the marketing behind Taylor Swift’s record-breaking tour, creating a shareable brand, and refreshing content to give your audience even more value. So layer on your Swifty bracelets and maybe a little something sparkly for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About Lob</strong></p><p>Lob is the only direct mail automation platform for the digital age. Lob's platform automates the direct mail execution process for enterprises at any scale - from creation, printing, postage, delivery, and sustainability with end-to-end analytics and campaign attribution. Over 12,000 businesses trust Lob to transform their direct mail into intelligent mail. Founded in 2013 and based in San Francisco, Lob is venture-backed by Y Combinator, Polaris Partners, Floodgate, and First Round Capital.</p><p><strong>About Taylor Swift and The Eras Tour</strong></p><p>Taylor Swift is an American singer-songwriter who has <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/17/arts/music/taylor-swift-speak-now-billboard-chart-record.html">more #1 albums</a> than any other woman in history after her album “Speak Now (Taylor’s Version)” debuted at #1. The 33-year-old artist from Pennsylvania who was originally known for country music is known for her musical versatility and reinventing herself as an artist. As a cultural figure, she has had several high-profile news stories, including her dispute with Big Machine Records over ownership of the masters of her first 6 studio albums which led to her re-recording all of them, and another legal battle with Apple in 2015 over protecting artists’ rights to fair compensation for their work. She currently has 10 albums, and has sold 114 million albums worldwide. She’s won 12 Grammys, 19 Billboard Music Awards (the most of any woman), 40 American Music Awards, and more.  She has many trademarks, including hiding messages in her content, frequently using the number 13, wearing red lipstick, and going barefoot. Her fans call themselves Swifties.</p><p>The Eras Tour is a journey through all of Taylor Swift’s studio albums. It’s 131 concerts across five continents, and is expected to be the highest grossing tour in history. Tickets bring in more than $13 million a night, for an expected $1 billion+ overall. <a href="https://fortune.com/2023/06/30/taylor-swift-on-track-to-gross-more-than-1-billion-on-tour/">The average ticket</a> costs $254. The Philadelphia Federal Reserve even reported that the tour is boosting economic growth, specifically related to hotel revenue. Taylor Swift has a <a href="https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/graphics/2023/03/30/taylor-swift-eras-tour-setlist-breakdown/11510779002/">44-song set list</a> and the concert is 3-hours long. The tour started on March 17th in Glendale, Arizona which was <a href="https://www.azcentral.com/story/entertainment/music/2023/03/13/glendale-az-name-change-taylor-swift-eras-tour/69995759007/">officially renamed “Swift City”</a> for two days. The tour will <a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/economy/2023/07/14/federal-reserve-taylor-swift-eras-tour-boosting-economy-hotels/70413533007/">wrap up</a> on November 23rd, 2024 in Toronto.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Kim Courvoisier</strong></p><p>Kim Courvoisier is the Senior Director of Content Marketing at Lob, the only direct mail automation platform for the digital age. Kim is an experienced senior-level digital marketing leader with over 12 years of experience in SaaS marketing, specializing in B2B and B2C content marketing, social media, email marketing, customer lifecycle marketing, AI, and SEO. She is based in San Francisco, California.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Taylor Swift and The Eras Tour: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Re-use, recycle, repurpose your classic content.</strong> Look back at your past marketing content that did really well and see if you can get more juice out of it. Kim says, “A lot of times, I'll write an ebook, and it's like, ‘Okay, that was great for that campaign. Moving on,’ And I'm like, ‘No, no, no. That's all perfectly relevant content. We should reuse that, we should recycle it, we should repurpose that.’ And that's exactly what Taylor Swift is doing when she is re-releasing these albums because she's now driving eyeballs or ears back to that content.” So make the most of the content you’ve invested time and effort in in the past, and refresh it to give your customers added value today.</li><li><strong>Create a shareable culture around your brand.</strong> For Swifties, it’s making beaded bracelets, wearing the number 13, going barefoot, putting on red lipstick. And it inspires fans to create their own content or even make their own bracelets and sell them. Kim says, “It's helping this whole little generation become entrepreneurs, which I think is so incredible. I talk about marketing and [Taylor isn’t] keeping it for herself. She's sharing it with everyone, and I think there's no greater power as a marketer than to empower others. And she's absolutely doing that.” So extend your brand to include free elements that fans can own, get added value from, and make their own.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>“If your content isn't adding value, then you're just creating more noise.” - Kim Courvoisier</p><p> “When [Taylor Swift] re-releases an album, she actually adds new content to it. Like content from the vault that wasn't on the original edition. And so it's adding more value. So that would be like if I took an old ebook that I had written and then put on an extra bonus chapter and re-released it. So I think there's a ton of lessons we can learn as marketers to go back and refresh and repurpose our content. And I get a ton of inspiration from that.” - Kim Courvoisier</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:54] Meet Kim Courvoisier, Senior Director of Content Marketing at Lob</p><p>[1:32] Why are we covering Taylor Swift?</p><p>[4:04] Tell me more about Taylor Swift</p><p>[10:32] Learn more about the record-breaking Eras Tour</p><p>[16:54] How do you create a shareable culture?</p><p>[22:39] What are marketing lessons we can learn from The Eras Tour?</p><p>[24:58] How to repurpose classic content and give your audience added value</p><p>[33:55] How to make content appeal to people who aren’t currently in the “buying mode”</p><p>[36:34] How does Kim think about the ROI of content?</p><p>[42:57] What are Kim’s favorite pieces of content she’s made at Lob?</p><p>[45:15] Tell me more about Lob’s 2023 State of Direct Mail and Consumer Insights Reports</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/06HL4z0CvFAxyc27GXpf02?si=2ok_SujCS4ekMW3TqTA7Tw">Listen to Taylor Swift</a></p><p><a href="https://tstheerastour.taylorswift.com/">Learn more about The Eras Tour</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kim-courvoisier-517b945/">Connect with Kim on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.lob.com/">Learn more about Lob</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. 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      <itunes:summary>Picture this: tens thousands of fans screaming from the top of their lungs for more content from you, the B2B marketer.

It may sound more like how people react to superstars like Taylor Swift; there are tactics she uses in her branding that inspire intense fandom, like how Swifties can wear red lipstick, make beaded bracelets or decode hidden messages in her Instagram posts to own a bit of her brand for themselves. It’s all a part of a culture that Taylor Swift and her team of amazing marketers have meticulously cultivated over time. But who’s to say B2B marketers can’t borrow a bit of that marketing magic? 

In this episode, we’re turning to the artist with more #1 albums than any other woman in history: Taylor Swift, and seeing what new B2B marketing ideas we can learn from her. What about her brand has inspired such passion; the kind of passion that is expected to bring in more than $1 billion in ticket sales from her current tour?Joining us is Senior Director of Content Marketing at Lob, Kim Courvoisier. Together, we’re talking about the marketing behind Taylor Swift’s record-breaking tour, creating a shareable brand, and refreshing content to give your audience even more value. So layer on your Swifty bracelets and maybe a little something sparkly for this episode of Remarkable.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Picture this: tens thousands of fans screaming from the top of their lungs for more content from you, the B2B marketer.

It may sound more like how people react to superstars like Taylor Swift; there are tactics she uses in her branding that inspire intense fandom, like how Swifties can wear red lipstick, make beaded bracelets or decode hidden messages in her Instagram posts to own a bit of her brand for themselves. It’s all a part of a culture that Taylor Swift and her team of amazing marketers have meticulously cultivated over time. But who’s to say B2B marketers can’t borrow a bit of that marketing magic? 

In this episode, we’re turning to the artist with more #1 albums than any other woman in history: Taylor Swift, and seeing what new B2B marketing ideas we can learn from her. What about her brand has inspired such passion; the kind of passion that is expected to bring in more than $1 billion in ticket sales from her current tour?Joining us is Senior Director of Content Marketing at Lob, Kim Courvoisier. Together, we’re talking about the marketing behind Taylor Swift’s record-breaking tour, creating a shareable brand, and refreshing content to give your audience even more value. So layer on your Swifty bracelets and maybe a little something sparkly for this episode of Remarkable.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>If your audience isn’t engaging with your posts, they’re not opening your emails and your webinars are empty, it’s time to tweak your marketing strategy.</p><p>Your marketing strategy has become a pattern; a pattern your customers are used to. They know what’s coming, so they tune it out. And the last thing you want to be is part of the noise.</p><p>So we’re going to show you how to pattern interrupt. According to a <a href="https://mailchimp.com/resources/pattern-interrupt/#:~:text=Pattern%20interrupts%20engage%20the%20customer,how%20they%20think%20and%20feel.">Mailchimp</a> article, pattern interrupt is “a neuro linguistic programming (NLP) tactic used to disrupt a customer's usual thought process or behavior… [around] cold calls and other marketing and sales strategies to change how they think and feel.” In this episode, we’re going to share how pattern interrupt is a key tool in re-engaging your customers as well as catching the attention of new potential customers. And we’re learning about pattern interrupt from a show that does it so well: “Archer.”</p><p>So in this episode, we’re having a watch party of the Emmy Award-winning series "Archer" with Head of Content Marketing and Customer Education at Apollo.io, Josh Garrison. And we’re chatting about how to engage your audience with pattern interruption, why you should spend time developing complex characters, and how to provide value by teaching your audience a new skill with each piece of content. So stick on a fake mustache and strap on your Omicron Spymaster watch for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About Apollo.io</strong></p><p>Apollo.io combines a buyer database of over 250M contacts and powerful sales engagement and automation tools in one, easy to use platform. Trusted by over 160,000 companies including Autodesk, Rippling, Deel, Jasper.ai, Divvy, and Heap, Apollo has more than one million users globally. By helping sales professionals find their ideal buyers and intelligently automate outreach, Apollo helps go-to-market teams sell anything. In the last year, they’ve grown ARR 3x, quadrupled their active users, and closed a $110M Series C led by Sequoia Capital in March of 2022. They continue to grow faster each month with record months of sales and added ARR.</p><p><strong>About Archer</strong></p><p>Archer is an animated tv series parodying espionage culture about a James Bond-esque spy named Sterling Archer in a dysfunctional intelligence agency headed by his own mother. The show is set in a sort of Cold War era universe. The highly stylized animation is inspired by classic comic books. The animators describe the style as “puppety,” in that a limited amount of drawings are made, and then they put rotation points from which the drawings can move.  The show was created by Adam Reed and made by Trinity Animation with the voice of Archer played by H. Jon Benjamin. It also includes the voices of Jessica Walter of Arrested Development, Aisha Tyler from Criminal Minds, and Chris Parnell from SNL. It originally aired in 2019 and is currently in its 14th season. It has won at least 3 Primetime Emmys among other numerous awards and nominations. </p><p><strong>About our guest, Josh Garrison</strong></p><p>Josh Garrison is Head of Content Marketing and Customer Education at Apollo.io. He joined Apollo.io in December of 2022. Prior to his current role, he served as Head of Revenue at Teamflow. He has also held leadership roles at Autodesk and inDinero. He co-founded SpotMe Lending, an alternative to payday, auto title and pawnbroker loans, and Ledger Leaders, a bookkeeping and accounting services business.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From “Archer”: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Use pattern interrupt.</strong> Use a familiar interaction but pivot suddenly to catch your audience off-guard. Josh says that in “Archer”, “they do the thing where they set up a joke and then the punchline of the joke is a cut scene to someone else saying it.” It helps with pacing, and moving the story line along while making the audience laugh.</li><li><strong>Develop complex characters.</strong> Characters simply feel more like people when they have flaws, preferences, history… And building believable, relatable characters takes time, intention, and thought. The characters in Archer immediately feel lived in from the first episode. Josh says, “The first time you meet every character, you get the essence of that character. There's no wasted time there.” The characters are multi-dimensional, neither purely good or bad. They’re human. Ian says that Archer “is the best spy in the world. But he's super narcissistic and he's pretty mean and self-serving. But there's this element of heart to him. Like he loves animals, he has a real affinity to certain people at his work. He’s an a**hole, but he's <i>our</i> a**hole.” As a complex character, he’s much more interesting and relatable than if he were simply a good person, good spy, good protagonist. So before you create content, spend time thinking about your characters’ backstory, personality, motivations, and more, to flesh out a character that will resonate with your audience.</li><li><strong>Borrow from nostalgic content.</strong> The artwork of Archer is inspired by classic comics and 1960s superhero cartoons. The show borrows from James Bond and espionage culture. So the show has elements that feel very familiar while at the same time being quite modern. Josh says, “It’s very unique, but it also feels familiar because they're calling back to things that you've seen and read throughout your early life.” So it draws people in with its nostalgic artwork but creates super fans with its modern tone, fast pacing, and cutting humor.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Marketers are bored of our own playbooks. They're like, ‘Oh man, I'm doing another webinar.’ Or they're like, ‘Oh, we gotta write another ebook?’ Those are old ideas. But that doesn't mean that those things don't work anymore. When I explore pattern interruption, I'm still gonna run a webinar. But in that webinar, how can I subvert the expectation? How can I set people up to think they're gonna get one thing, and then give them something that's way more than they hoped or bargained for, and just go beyond?” - Josh Garrison</p><p>*”Salespeople will engage with anything that will make them money. That's the guiding principle of our content marketing strategy. Put yourself in the shoes of a salesperson and ask yourself, ‘Would I read this? Before I commit to reading it or watching it, am I convinced based on the headline or the title or the description, that this is gonna bring enough value to me to help me improve my ability to make money?’ So we start there. That's actually a pretty high bar. It's really hard to do. It means that you can't make any fluff, because fluff doesn't make anybody money.” - Josh Garrison</p><p>*“What we try to do is go two steps further than [typical content,] and it's like, ‘I'm gonna open up Apollo. I'm gonna show you exactly what to do.’ Something that's so actionable that by the time somebody finishes engaging with a piece of content, whether it's a video, webinar, or article, they have gained a new skill.” - Josh Garrison</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:58] Introducing Head of Content Marketing & Customer Education at Apollo.io Josh Garrison</p><p>[1:59] Why are we covering Archer?</p><p>[3:13] What makes Archer remarkable? And what is “pattern interrupt” or “pattern interruption”?</p><p>[6:05] How does the animation style of Archer draw an audience?</p><p>[7:54] Tell me more about Archer</p><p>[10:34] How does character development play into Archer’s popularity?</p><p>[15:02] How can marketers think about using pattern interruption in their marketing?</p><p>[17:32] What can we learn about pacing from Archer?</p><p>[19:38] What’s Josh’s content strategy at Apollo.io?</p><p>[26:14] How did Josh rebuild the webinar program at Apollo.io to the point where people were asking when the next one would be?</p><p>[35:08] Who did Josh hire to produce their world-class videos?</p><p>[40:21] What are the keys to good marketing?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/archer">Watch Archer</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuapgarrison/">Connect with Josh on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.apollo.io/">Learn more about Apollo.io</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If your audience isn’t engaging with your posts, they’re not opening your emails and your webinars are empty, it’s time to tweak your marketing strategy.</p><p>Your marketing strategy has become a pattern; a pattern your customers are used to. They know what’s coming, so they tune it out. And the last thing you want to be is part of the noise.</p><p>So we’re going to show you how to pattern interrupt. According to a <a href="https://mailchimp.com/resources/pattern-interrupt/#:~:text=Pattern%20interrupts%20engage%20the%20customer,how%20they%20think%20and%20feel.">Mailchimp</a> article, pattern interrupt is “a neuro linguistic programming (NLP) tactic used to disrupt a customer's usual thought process or behavior… [around] cold calls and other marketing and sales strategies to change how they think and feel.” In this episode, we’re going to share how pattern interrupt is a key tool in re-engaging your customers as well as catching the attention of new potential customers. And we’re learning about pattern interrupt from a show that does it so well: “Archer.”</p><p>So in this episode, we’re having a watch party of the Emmy Award-winning series "Archer" with Head of Content Marketing and Customer Education at Apollo.io, Josh Garrison. And we’re chatting about how to engage your audience with pattern interruption, why you should spend time developing complex characters, and how to provide value by teaching your audience a new skill with each piece of content. So stick on a fake mustache and strap on your Omicron Spymaster watch for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About Apollo.io</strong></p><p>Apollo.io combines a buyer database of over 250M contacts and powerful sales engagement and automation tools in one, easy to use platform. Trusted by over 160,000 companies including Autodesk, Rippling, Deel, Jasper.ai, Divvy, and Heap, Apollo has more than one million users globally. By helping sales professionals find their ideal buyers and intelligently automate outreach, Apollo helps go-to-market teams sell anything. In the last year, they’ve grown ARR 3x, quadrupled their active users, and closed a $110M Series C led by Sequoia Capital in March of 2022. They continue to grow faster each month with record months of sales and added ARR.</p><p><strong>About Archer</strong></p><p>Archer is an animated tv series parodying espionage culture about a James Bond-esque spy named Sterling Archer in a dysfunctional intelligence agency headed by his own mother. The show is set in a sort of Cold War era universe. The highly stylized animation is inspired by classic comic books. The animators describe the style as “puppety,” in that a limited amount of drawings are made, and then they put rotation points from which the drawings can move.  The show was created by Adam Reed and made by Trinity Animation with the voice of Archer played by H. Jon Benjamin. It also includes the voices of Jessica Walter of Arrested Development, Aisha Tyler from Criminal Minds, and Chris Parnell from SNL. It originally aired in 2019 and is currently in its 14th season. It has won at least 3 Primetime Emmys among other numerous awards and nominations. </p><p><strong>About our guest, Josh Garrison</strong></p><p>Josh Garrison is Head of Content Marketing and Customer Education at Apollo.io. He joined Apollo.io in December of 2022. Prior to his current role, he served as Head of Revenue at Teamflow. He has also held leadership roles at Autodesk and inDinero. He co-founded SpotMe Lending, an alternative to payday, auto title and pawnbroker loans, and Ledger Leaders, a bookkeeping and accounting services business.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From “Archer”: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Use pattern interrupt.</strong> Use a familiar interaction but pivot suddenly to catch your audience off-guard. Josh says that in “Archer”, “they do the thing where they set up a joke and then the punchline of the joke is a cut scene to someone else saying it.” It helps with pacing, and moving the story line along while making the audience laugh.</li><li><strong>Develop complex characters.</strong> Characters simply feel more like people when they have flaws, preferences, history… And building believable, relatable characters takes time, intention, and thought. The characters in Archer immediately feel lived in from the first episode. Josh says, “The first time you meet every character, you get the essence of that character. There's no wasted time there.” The characters are multi-dimensional, neither purely good or bad. They’re human. Ian says that Archer “is the best spy in the world. But he's super narcissistic and he's pretty mean and self-serving. But there's this element of heart to him. Like he loves animals, he has a real affinity to certain people at his work. He’s an a**hole, but he's <i>our</i> a**hole.” As a complex character, he’s much more interesting and relatable than if he were simply a good person, good spy, good protagonist. So before you create content, spend time thinking about your characters’ backstory, personality, motivations, and more, to flesh out a character that will resonate with your audience.</li><li><strong>Borrow from nostalgic content.</strong> The artwork of Archer is inspired by classic comics and 1960s superhero cartoons. The show borrows from James Bond and espionage culture. So the show has elements that feel very familiar while at the same time being quite modern. Josh says, “It’s very unique, but it also feels familiar because they're calling back to things that you've seen and read throughout your early life.” So it draws people in with its nostalgic artwork but creates super fans with its modern tone, fast pacing, and cutting humor.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Marketers are bored of our own playbooks. They're like, ‘Oh man, I'm doing another webinar.’ Or they're like, ‘Oh, we gotta write another ebook?’ Those are old ideas. But that doesn't mean that those things don't work anymore. When I explore pattern interruption, I'm still gonna run a webinar. But in that webinar, how can I subvert the expectation? How can I set people up to think they're gonna get one thing, and then give them something that's way more than they hoped or bargained for, and just go beyond?” - Josh Garrison</p><p>*”Salespeople will engage with anything that will make them money. That's the guiding principle of our content marketing strategy. Put yourself in the shoes of a salesperson and ask yourself, ‘Would I read this? Before I commit to reading it or watching it, am I convinced based on the headline or the title or the description, that this is gonna bring enough value to me to help me improve my ability to make money?’ So we start there. That's actually a pretty high bar. It's really hard to do. It means that you can't make any fluff, because fluff doesn't make anybody money.” - Josh Garrison</p><p>*“What we try to do is go two steps further than [typical content,] and it's like, ‘I'm gonna open up Apollo. I'm gonna show you exactly what to do.’ Something that's so actionable that by the time somebody finishes engaging with a piece of content, whether it's a video, webinar, or article, they have gained a new skill.” - Josh Garrison</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:58] Introducing Head of Content Marketing & Customer Education at Apollo.io Josh Garrison</p><p>[1:59] Why are we covering Archer?</p><p>[3:13] What makes Archer remarkable? And what is “pattern interrupt” or “pattern interruption”?</p><p>[6:05] How does the animation style of Archer draw an audience?</p><p>[7:54] Tell me more about Archer</p><p>[10:34] How does character development play into Archer’s popularity?</p><p>[15:02] How can marketers think about using pattern interruption in their marketing?</p><p>[17:32] What can we learn about pacing from Archer?</p><p>[19:38] What’s Josh’s content strategy at Apollo.io?</p><p>[26:14] How did Josh rebuild the webinar program at Apollo.io to the point where people were asking when the next one would be?</p><p>[35:08] Who did Josh hire to produce their world-class videos?</p><p>[40:21] What are the keys to good marketing?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/archer">Watch Archer</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuapgarrison/">Connect with Josh on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.apollo.io/">Learn more about Apollo.io</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>If your audience isn’t engaging with your posts, they’re not opening your emails and your webinars are empty, it’s time to tweak your marketing strategy.

Your marketing strategy has become a pattern; a pattern your customers are used to. They know what’s coming, so they tune it out. And the last thing you want to be is part of the noise.

So we’re going to show you how to pattern interrupt. According to a Mailchimp article, pattern interrupt is “a neuro linguistic programming (NLP) tactic used to disrupt a customer&apos;s usual thought process or behavior… [around] cold calls and other marketing and sales strategies to change how they think and feel.” In this episode, we’re going to share how pattern interrupt is a key tool in re-engaging your customers as well as catching the attention of new potential customers. And we’re learning about pattern interrupt from a show that does it so well: “Archer.”

So in this episode, we’re having a watch party of the Emmy Award-winning series &quot;Archer&quot; with Head of Content Marketing and Customer Education at Apollo.io, Josh Garrison. And we’re chatting about how to engage your audience with pattern interruption, why you should spend time developing complex characters, and how to provide value by teaching your audience a new skill with each piece of content. So stick on a fake mustache and strap on your Omicron Spymaster watch for this episode of Remarkable.</itunes:summary>
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Your marketing strategy has become a pattern; a pattern your customers are used to. They know what’s coming, so they tune it out. And the last thing you want to be is part of the noise.

So we’re going to show you how to pattern interrupt. According to a Mailchimp article, pattern interrupt is “a neuro linguistic programming (NLP) tactic used to disrupt a customer&apos;s usual thought process or behavior… [around] cold calls and other marketing and sales strategies to change how they think and feel.” In this episode, we’re going to share how pattern interrupt is a key tool in re-engaging your customers as well as catching the attention of new potential customers. And we’re learning about pattern interrupt from a show that does it so well: “Archer.”

So in this episode, we’re having a watch party of the Emmy Award-winning series &quot;Archer&quot; with Head of Content Marketing and Customer Education at Apollo.io, Josh Garrison. And we’re chatting about how to engage your audience with pattern interruption, why you should spend time developing complex characters, and how to provide value by teaching your audience a new skill with each piece of content. So stick on a fake mustache and strap on your Omicron Spymaster watch for this episode of Remarkable.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Characters in your B2B marketing are polished, smooth, suave, always smiling. They never feel awkward, even when they’re asking for more budget or getting negative feedback. Stop that.</p><p>Let your characters be and feel awkward in those moments. Because you want your audience to think, “Oh, they get me.” And because we’ve <i>all</i> felt awkward at work. Today, we’re taking notes from a show that has made us all cringe: The Office. </p><p>Alison Herman wrote for The Ringer that cringe comedy resonates with the audience because “Cringe often comes with a reassurance that we aren’t alone in our crippling insecurities, without the sometimes insurmountable hurdle of disclosing our own inner thoughts.” It’s a reminder that other people get sweaty and shaky when they ask for a raise too. </p><p>So on this episode, we’re chatting about the Benihana Christmas episode, from Dwight flopping a dead goose on Pam’s desk to Andy’s efforts to cheer up a heartbroken Michael with an onion volcano. And we’re bringing on Director of Content Marketing at ActiveCampaign, Jakub Rudnik, to talk about what makes the episode so iconic, why you should consider bringing in experts from other industries to help create content, and why it’s time to embrace the awkwardness. So deck the halls with twinkle lights and order yourself a sushi boat for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About ActiveCampaign</strong></p><p>ClickUp is a cloud-based project management platform that provides wall-to-wall solutions for teams to manage all types of work, collaborate on tasks, and streamline multi-step workflows. It’s an all-in-one tool that lets you plan, track and collaborate on any project. <a href="https://www.forbes.com/companies/clickup/?sh=184e91d34ffe">Founded in 2017</a> by Zeb Evans in San Diego, ClickUp is now used by Google, Netflix, Airbnb and Nike.</p><p><strong>About The Office</strong></p><p>The Office is a mockumentary about the daily lives of employees working for Dunder Mifflin Paper Company in Scranton, Pennsylvania. The U.S. version is based on the original U.K. series created by comedian Ricky Gervais and Stephen Merchant which was  adapted for an American audience by SNL writer Greg Daniels, and co-produced by Deedle-Dee Productions and Reveille Productions in association with Universal Television. The original cast included Steve Carrell, Rainn Wilson, John Krasinski, Jenna Fisher, and B.J. Novak. There are 9 seasons, which aired from 2005 to 2013. It has won many awards, including Primetime Emmy for Outstanding Comedy Series and Golden Globe Award for Best Television Series.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Jakub Rudnik</strong></p><p>Jakub Rudnik is Director of Content Marketing at ActiveCampaign. He joined ActiveCampaign in March 2023. Prior to his current role, he served as Head of Content Marketing at Scribe. He is also an adjunct professor at DePaul University where he teaches Journalism courses, and a content marketing consultant. </p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From The Office: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Bring in the experts.</strong> Cross-pollinate B2B and B2C by contracting experts or specialists to help you level up your content. Iconic actor, comedian, writer and director Harold Ramis directed the Benihana Christmas double-episode, making it a standout comedic performance from everyone involved. Likewise, the Dinner Party episode will go down in history as being one of the most uncomfortable episodes to sit through. Part of the magic was that they brought in cameramen from reality TV to follow the action like in a reality TV show. So it creates the illusion that the audience is getting an inside look at some real drama. Ian says that you don’t have to sacrifice your brand voice or consistency when you bring in outside voices. He says,, “I love keeping things consistent with structure and flow and all that. But I do think that bringing in other people to give a second look, or to just give them the reins and say, ‘Hey, do it the way that you want to do it,’ is something that they do a lot in Hollywood and we don't necessarily do as much in marketing.” So next time you want to make some fresh content, bring in an expert from outside your team to collaborate, put in their two cents, and give it that B2C flavor that will set you apart from the pack.</li><li><strong>Lean into the awkwardness.</strong> Highlight customer pain points by leaning into the discomfort and cringiness caused by them. This shows that you’re empathetic to their situation, and are acknowledging their frustrations. Jakub says,”The Office takes those awkward cringe things and makes them more extreme to play it up. But that’s why we connect to it. It’s real. I’ve been there.” And Ian says, “We don't strive for really awkward, tense moments in B2B marketing. It's very rare. Whereas our work is full of super awkward, tense moments. There are so many moments that are extremely personal and awkward in work and we never talk about it.” So it’s time to talk about it. Lean into the awkwardness that happens in real workplaces, and you’ll hook your audience.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”The biggest successes of my career came from an inflection point where something was broken, something was failing, we were flatlining, a competitor was emerging, and we went a different way. We scrapped everything that we thought we knew about content and we went a different route. Let's not replicate what our competitors have done. Let's go find something brand new or a different way of executing this completely. And so to me, that's Darryl being like, ‘Don't worry about that. We don't need the karaoke machine at all. We're gonna go print off lyrics from the internet and I'm gonna go grab my keyboard and we're just gonna have more fun.’ And it was a better party because of that.” - Jakub Rudnik</p><p>*”There are so few scenes in The Office that are about work. We want to do a great job. We wanna get better at work. But we also just have these very human moments.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”The Office takes those awkward cringe things and makes them more extreme to play it up. But that’s why we connect to it. It’s real. I’ve been there.” - Jakub Rudnik</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:56] Introducing Director of Content Marketing at ActiveCampaign, Jakub Rudnik</p><p>[2:53] Why is The Office remarkable?</p><p>[3:50] Tell me more about The Office</p><p>[10:57] What are marketing lessons we can take from The Office?</p><p>[13:10] What’s the best way to manage obstacles?</p><p>[18:54] How do you focus on the customer’s pain points, not the KPIs?</p><p>[21:47] Why is it important to bring in people from outside your team to pitch in to the creative process?</p><p>[32:28] Why should you embrace awkwardness in your content marketing?</p><p>[33:21] What’s Jakub’s content strategy at ActiveCampaign?</p><p>[39:21] How does Jakub use marketer influencers?</p><p>[45:57] How does Jakub track the ROI of influencer marketing?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.76a9f75d-c7e8-e3b2-5f66-64dbd86b1155?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch The Office</a></p><p><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/jakubrudnik/">Connect with Jakub on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.activecampaign.com/">Learn more about ActiveCampaign</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 6 Sep 2023 15:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Jakub Rudnik, Ian Faison, Meredith Gooderham, Scott Goodrich)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Characters in your B2B marketing are polished, smooth, suave, always smiling. They never feel awkward, even when they’re asking for more budget or getting negative feedback. Stop that.</p><p>Let your characters be and feel awkward in those moments. Because you want your audience to think, “Oh, they get me.” And because we’ve <i>all</i> felt awkward at work. Today, we’re taking notes from a show that has made us all cringe: The Office. </p><p>Alison Herman wrote for The Ringer that cringe comedy resonates with the audience because “Cringe often comes with a reassurance that we aren’t alone in our crippling insecurities, without the sometimes insurmountable hurdle of disclosing our own inner thoughts.” It’s a reminder that other people get sweaty and shaky when they ask for a raise too. </p><p>So on this episode, we’re chatting about the Benihana Christmas episode, from Dwight flopping a dead goose on Pam’s desk to Andy’s efforts to cheer up a heartbroken Michael with an onion volcano. And we’re bringing on Director of Content Marketing at ActiveCampaign, Jakub Rudnik, to talk about what makes the episode so iconic, why you should consider bringing in experts from other industries to help create content, and why it’s time to embrace the awkwardness. So deck the halls with twinkle lights and order yourself a sushi boat for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About ActiveCampaign</strong></p><p>ClickUp is a cloud-based project management platform that provides wall-to-wall solutions for teams to manage all types of work, collaborate on tasks, and streamline multi-step workflows. It’s an all-in-one tool that lets you plan, track and collaborate on any project. <a href="https://www.forbes.com/companies/clickup/?sh=184e91d34ffe">Founded in 2017</a> by Zeb Evans in San Diego, ClickUp is now used by Google, Netflix, Airbnb and Nike.</p><p><strong>About The Office</strong></p><p>The Office is a mockumentary about the daily lives of employees working for Dunder Mifflin Paper Company in Scranton, Pennsylvania. The U.S. version is based on the original U.K. series created by comedian Ricky Gervais and Stephen Merchant which was  adapted for an American audience by SNL writer Greg Daniels, and co-produced by Deedle-Dee Productions and Reveille Productions in association with Universal Television. The original cast included Steve Carrell, Rainn Wilson, John Krasinski, Jenna Fisher, and B.J. Novak. There are 9 seasons, which aired from 2005 to 2013. It has won many awards, including Primetime Emmy for Outstanding Comedy Series and Golden Globe Award for Best Television Series.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Jakub Rudnik</strong></p><p>Jakub Rudnik is Director of Content Marketing at ActiveCampaign. He joined ActiveCampaign in March 2023. Prior to his current role, he served as Head of Content Marketing at Scribe. He is also an adjunct professor at DePaul University where he teaches Journalism courses, and a content marketing consultant. </p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From The Office: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Bring in the experts.</strong> Cross-pollinate B2B and B2C by contracting experts or specialists to help you level up your content. Iconic actor, comedian, writer and director Harold Ramis directed the Benihana Christmas double-episode, making it a standout comedic performance from everyone involved. Likewise, the Dinner Party episode will go down in history as being one of the most uncomfortable episodes to sit through. Part of the magic was that they brought in cameramen from reality TV to follow the action like in a reality TV show. So it creates the illusion that the audience is getting an inside look at some real drama. Ian says that you don’t have to sacrifice your brand voice or consistency when you bring in outside voices. He says,, “I love keeping things consistent with structure and flow and all that. But I do think that bringing in other people to give a second look, or to just give them the reins and say, ‘Hey, do it the way that you want to do it,’ is something that they do a lot in Hollywood and we don't necessarily do as much in marketing.” So next time you want to make some fresh content, bring in an expert from outside your team to collaborate, put in their two cents, and give it that B2C flavor that will set you apart from the pack.</li><li><strong>Lean into the awkwardness.</strong> Highlight customer pain points by leaning into the discomfort and cringiness caused by them. This shows that you’re empathetic to their situation, and are acknowledging their frustrations. Jakub says,”The Office takes those awkward cringe things and makes them more extreme to play it up. But that’s why we connect to it. It’s real. I’ve been there.” And Ian says, “We don't strive for really awkward, tense moments in B2B marketing. It's very rare. Whereas our work is full of super awkward, tense moments. There are so many moments that are extremely personal and awkward in work and we never talk about it.” So it’s time to talk about it. Lean into the awkwardness that happens in real workplaces, and you’ll hook your audience.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”The biggest successes of my career came from an inflection point where something was broken, something was failing, we were flatlining, a competitor was emerging, and we went a different way. We scrapped everything that we thought we knew about content and we went a different route. Let's not replicate what our competitors have done. Let's go find something brand new or a different way of executing this completely. And so to me, that's Darryl being like, ‘Don't worry about that. We don't need the karaoke machine at all. We're gonna go print off lyrics from the internet and I'm gonna go grab my keyboard and we're just gonna have more fun.’ And it was a better party because of that.” - Jakub Rudnik</p><p>*”There are so few scenes in The Office that are about work. We want to do a great job. We wanna get better at work. But we also just have these very human moments.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”The Office takes those awkward cringe things and makes them more extreme to play it up. But that’s why we connect to it. It’s real. I’ve been there.” - Jakub Rudnik</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:56] Introducing Director of Content Marketing at ActiveCampaign, Jakub Rudnik</p><p>[2:53] Why is The Office remarkable?</p><p>[3:50] Tell me more about The Office</p><p>[10:57] What are marketing lessons we can take from The Office?</p><p>[13:10] What’s the best way to manage obstacles?</p><p>[18:54] How do you focus on the customer’s pain points, not the KPIs?</p><p>[21:47] Why is it important to bring in people from outside your team to pitch in to the creative process?</p><p>[32:28] Why should you embrace awkwardness in your content marketing?</p><p>[33:21] What’s Jakub’s content strategy at ActiveCampaign?</p><p>[39:21] How does Jakub use marketer influencers?</p><p>[45:57] How does Jakub track the ROI of influencer marketing?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.76a9f75d-c7e8-e3b2-5f66-64dbd86b1155?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch The Office</a></p><p><a href="https://linkedin.com/in/jakubrudnik/">Connect with Jakub on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.activecampaign.com/">Learn more about ActiveCampaign</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>Characters in your B2B marketing are polished, smooth, suave, always smiling. They never feel awkward, even when they’re asking for more budget or getting negative feedback. Stop that.

Let your characters be and feel awkward in those moments. Because you want your audience to think, “Oh, they get me.” And because we’ve all felt awkward at work. Today, we’re taking notes from a show that has made us all cringe: The Office. 

Alison Herman wrote for The Ringer that cringe comedy resonates with the audience because “Cringe often comes with a reassurance that we aren’t alone in our crippling insecurities, without the sometimes insurmountable hurdle of disclosing our own inner thoughts.” It’s a reminder that other people get sweaty and shaky when they ask for a raise too. 

So on this episode, we’re chatting about the Benihana Christmas episode, from Dwight flopping a dead goose on Pam’s desk to Andy’s efforts to cheer up a heartbroken Michael with an onion volcano. And we’re bringing on Director of Content Marketing at ActiveCampaign, Jakub Rudnik, to talk about what makes the episode so iconic, why you should consider bringing in experts from other industries to help create content, and why it’s time to embrace the awkwardness. So deck the halls with twinkle lights and order yourself a sushi boat for this episode of Remarkable.</itunes:summary>
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Let your characters be and feel awkward in those moments. Because you want your audience to think, “Oh, they get me.” And because we’ve all felt awkward at work. Today, we’re taking notes from a show that has made us all cringe: The Office. 

Alison Herman wrote for The Ringer that cringe comedy resonates with the audience because “Cringe often comes with a reassurance that we aren’t alone in our crippling insecurities, without the sometimes insurmountable hurdle of disclosing our own inner thoughts.” It’s a reminder that other people get sweaty and shaky when they ask for a raise too. 

So on this episode, we’re chatting about the Benihana Christmas episode, from Dwight flopping a dead goose on Pam’s desk to Andy’s efforts to cheer up a heartbroken Michael with an onion volcano. And we’re bringing on Director of Content Marketing at ActiveCampaign, Jakub Rudnik, to talk about what makes the episode so iconic, why you should consider bringing in experts from other industries to help create content, and why it’s time to embrace the awkwardness. So deck the halls with twinkle lights and order yourself a sushi boat for this episode of Remarkable.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Work Flows: B2B Marketing Lessons from ClickUp’s Viral Studio Album with Chris Cunningham, their Head of Influencer Marketing</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>B2B content feeling a little limp and lifeless? We have the answer. The one thing that will give it life, improve brand recall, and make it universally appealing: Put it to music. </p><p>A <a href="https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2019/11/new-harvard-study-establishes-music-is-universal/">Harvard study</a> found that music is truly a universal language. Harvard correspondent Jed Gottlieb says, “Across societies, <a href="https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2018/01/music-may-transcend-cultural-boundaries-to-become-universally-human/">music is associated with behaviors</a> such as infant care, healing, dance, love”...and work. And listening to music <a href="https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/why-is-music-good-for-the-brain-2020100721062#:~:text=Music%20activates%20just%20about%20all%20of%20the%20brain&text=Of%20course%2C%20music%20activates%20the,music%2C%20they%20are%20also%20synchronized.">activates wide swaths of the brain</a>, especially areas related to emotion. Simply put, using music in your marketing is your ticket to engaging and connecting emotionally with your audience, whoever and wherever they are. Including when they’re at work.</p><p>ClickUp is proof that music works in B2B marketing. They created the first ever full studio album from a tech company, and it took off. Featuring artists like Clever, who previously collaborated with Justin Bieber and Post Mallone, as well as Michael Minelli and Philip Good, the album has had over a million streams. </p><p>On this episode of Remarkable, we’re taking a beat to talk with Chris Cunningham, Head of Influencer Marketing at ClickUp, about the creation of their studio album, Work Flows. We’re learning from him about what it takes to make an album for a B2B company, how to make viral content, and the best way to leverage influencers. So put your headphones on and turn up the bass for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About ClickUp</strong></p><p>ClickUp is a cloud-based project management platform that provides wall-to-wall solutions for teams to manage all types of work, collaborate on tasks, and streamline multi-step workflows. It’s an all-in-one tool that lets you plan, track and collaborate on any project. <a href="https://www.forbes.com/companies/clickup/?sh=184e91d34ffe">Founded in 2017</a> by Zeb Evans in San Diego, ClickUp is now used by Google, Netflix, Airbnb and Nike.</p><p><strong>About Work Flows</strong></p><p>Chris released the first song, “ClickUp to Keep Up” in June 2018. In 2023, they released a full-length album, “Work Flows” featuring 21 songs about project management and features artists like Clever, who has previously collaborated with Justin Bieber and Post Mallone, as well as Michael Minelli. It’s the <a href="https://spotlight.designrush.com/news/click-up-levelup-marketing-first-album-workflows">first full studio album</a> from a tech company. It was released during ClickUp’s LevelUp Conference in February. Within a week of its release, it got over half a million streams.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Chris Cunningham</strong></p><p>Chris Cunningham is Head of Influencer Marketing and a founding member of ClickUp. He has previously served as VP of Business Development at Elevator Studio and Head of Business Development at Mango Technologies, Inc.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Work Flows:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Build internal influencers.</strong> Encourage and support employees in becoming thought leaders in their industry. And become an influencer yourself to relate to them, build trust, and collaborate more effectively. Chris says, “If you're someone who's at a smaller company and you want to learn, you're going to look for someone who's at a large company, someone who's done it before.” And he says at ClickUp, they’re building several internal influencers, and not just within the C-suite. Chris himself is working to become one, and it makes him more effective at being Head of Influencer Marketing, because he says, “ I understand their struggles. I understand how hard it is to create content every day and, and put that out. I understand how to talk to them and how to work with them because I'm trying to be one. So one of the last things I learned is that a very strong value point if you want to get in this space and you want to do influencer marketing in tech, you should probably actually do it yourself to learn from them and earn their respect.”</li><li><strong>Get your influencers to go off script.</strong> Give them the trust and autonomy to create authentic content. When you give influencers the stage to express themselves, they’ll forge real connections with followers. Chris says that if he offered to pay an influencer to talk about ClickUp, “it’s not natural and people can smell it out.” But if he gets an influencer to try ClickUp’s platform and it improves their workflow, then he works together with them to create content. He says, “I give free reign to the creator. I'm not going to give them a script. What I want them to do is go tell the world how we save them time.” And then he uses their endorsements as ads across social media platforms. He says it’s a tactic that has been really effective for ClickUp.</li><li><strong>Make a song.</strong> Think outside the B2B marketing box and embrace unconventional engagement. ClickUp’s creation of the first studio album from a tech company challenged the status quo and raised the bar for what B2B marketing could be. Chris says he made a studio album to stand out. “Everyone listens to music. So many people listen to music while they work. It's a new way to get in front of people that no one's done.” And it paid off. With over a million streams and maybe - just maybe - another album on the way.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”The best move I could ever make was trying to become an influencer myself. I think [influencers] are more apt to get back to me because they see me doing the same thing they are. I understand their struggles. I understand how hard it is to create content every day and put that out. I understand how to talk to them and how to work with them because I'm trying to be one. So I think one of the last things I learned is that a very strong value point if you want to do influencer marketing in tech, you should probably actually do it yourself to learn from them and earn their respect.” - Chris Cunningham</p><p>*”It's not like everything we do goes viral. So I think it's more of a long-term process, testing and learning your audience, but to me, going viral is just getting tons of shares, tons of comments. Likes are a small vanity metric. It's people talking about it, and then they're getting articles and news talking about it. That is what I care about and what my goal is every time we do anything.” - Chris Cunningham</p><p>*“One thing I think that I would like to be known for, and that I've always tried to do, is just testing new things. Does everything work? No. Like I've had plenty of failure. And that's what everyone will tell you, right? Fail, fail, fail. But I think you gotta go into things not caring about failure. I think it's just seeing what happens and having fun with it, and having some belief. So that's how we handle everything in marketing. I'm gonna keep trying new things.” - Chris Cunningham</p><p>*”The big piece of advice I'd like to leave everyone with is to not overthink, just start doing things. It's so easy to have a full plan and to type things up and get approvals. Just start doing things. Like, don't worry too much. Who cares about outcomes? Outcomes happen and sometimes they don't. And it's perfectly okay.” - Chris Cunningham</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Introducing ClickUp founding member and Head of Influencer Marketing, Chris Cunningham</p><p>[4:24] How does influencer marketing fit into ClickUp’s overall marketing strategy?</p><p>[9:03] How does influencer marketing work?</p><p>[13:37] The art of interviewing influencers</p><p>[16:43] How did ClickUp make a studio album?</p><p>[23:34] Where can you find the Work Flows album and other related content?</p><p>[24:00] How do you set KPIs for content like a studio album?</p><p>[25:25] How do you measure the ROI of content?</p><p>[31:32] How do you make viral content?</p><p>[35:03] When did Chris make the first song?</p><p>[40:12] What are Chris’ favorite pieces of content or campaigns?</p><p>[42:38] What’s something Chris is working on that he’s excited about?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/1Y3vCLtuIy9BpjKhBesDMr?si=VEWORqoSQaSSr8PiFy1wUw">Listen to Work Flows</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisclickup/">Connect with Chris on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://clickup.com/">Learn about ClickUp</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Ian Faison, Chris Cunningham, Colin Stamps, Meredith Gooderham)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B2B content feeling a little limp and lifeless? We have the answer. The one thing that will give it life, improve brand recall, and make it universally appealing: Put it to music. </p><p>A <a href="https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2019/11/new-harvard-study-establishes-music-is-universal/">Harvard study</a> found that music is truly a universal language. Harvard correspondent Jed Gottlieb says, “Across societies, <a href="https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2018/01/music-may-transcend-cultural-boundaries-to-become-universally-human/">music is associated with behaviors</a> such as infant care, healing, dance, love”...and work. And listening to music <a href="https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/why-is-music-good-for-the-brain-2020100721062#:~:text=Music%20activates%20just%20about%20all%20of%20the%20brain&text=Of%20course%2C%20music%20activates%20the,music%2C%20they%20are%20also%20synchronized.">activates wide swaths of the brain</a>, especially areas related to emotion. Simply put, using music in your marketing is your ticket to engaging and connecting emotionally with your audience, whoever and wherever they are. Including when they’re at work.</p><p>ClickUp is proof that music works in B2B marketing. They created the first ever full studio album from a tech company, and it took off. Featuring artists like Clever, who previously collaborated with Justin Bieber and Post Mallone, as well as Michael Minelli and Philip Good, the album has had over a million streams. </p><p>On this episode of Remarkable, we’re taking a beat to talk with Chris Cunningham, Head of Influencer Marketing at ClickUp, about the creation of their studio album, Work Flows. We’re learning from him about what it takes to make an album for a B2B company, how to make viral content, and the best way to leverage influencers. So put your headphones on and turn up the bass for this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About ClickUp</strong></p><p>ClickUp is a cloud-based project management platform that provides wall-to-wall solutions for teams to manage all types of work, collaborate on tasks, and streamline multi-step workflows. It’s an all-in-one tool that lets you plan, track and collaborate on any project. <a href="https://www.forbes.com/companies/clickup/?sh=184e91d34ffe">Founded in 2017</a> by Zeb Evans in San Diego, ClickUp is now used by Google, Netflix, Airbnb and Nike.</p><p><strong>About Work Flows</strong></p><p>Chris released the first song, “ClickUp to Keep Up” in June 2018. In 2023, they released a full-length album, “Work Flows” featuring 21 songs about project management and features artists like Clever, who has previously collaborated with Justin Bieber and Post Mallone, as well as Michael Minelli. It’s the <a href="https://spotlight.designrush.com/news/click-up-levelup-marketing-first-album-workflows">first full studio album</a> from a tech company. It was released during ClickUp’s LevelUp Conference in February. Within a week of its release, it got over half a million streams.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Chris Cunningham</strong></p><p>Chris Cunningham is Head of Influencer Marketing and a founding member of ClickUp. He has previously served as VP of Business Development at Elevator Studio and Head of Business Development at Mango Technologies, Inc.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Work Flows:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Build internal influencers.</strong> Encourage and support employees in becoming thought leaders in their industry. And become an influencer yourself to relate to them, build trust, and collaborate more effectively. Chris says, “If you're someone who's at a smaller company and you want to learn, you're going to look for someone who's at a large company, someone who's done it before.” And he says at ClickUp, they’re building several internal influencers, and not just within the C-suite. Chris himself is working to become one, and it makes him more effective at being Head of Influencer Marketing, because he says, “ I understand their struggles. I understand how hard it is to create content every day and, and put that out. I understand how to talk to them and how to work with them because I'm trying to be one. So one of the last things I learned is that a very strong value point if you want to get in this space and you want to do influencer marketing in tech, you should probably actually do it yourself to learn from them and earn their respect.”</li><li><strong>Get your influencers to go off script.</strong> Give them the trust and autonomy to create authentic content. When you give influencers the stage to express themselves, they’ll forge real connections with followers. Chris says that if he offered to pay an influencer to talk about ClickUp, “it’s not natural and people can smell it out.” But if he gets an influencer to try ClickUp’s platform and it improves their workflow, then he works together with them to create content. He says, “I give free reign to the creator. I'm not going to give them a script. What I want them to do is go tell the world how we save them time.” And then he uses their endorsements as ads across social media platforms. He says it’s a tactic that has been really effective for ClickUp.</li><li><strong>Make a song.</strong> Think outside the B2B marketing box and embrace unconventional engagement. ClickUp’s creation of the first studio album from a tech company challenged the status quo and raised the bar for what B2B marketing could be. Chris says he made a studio album to stand out. “Everyone listens to music. So many people listen to music while they work. It's a new way to get in front of people that no one's done.” And it paid off. With over a million streams and maybe - just maybe - another album on the way.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”The best move I could ever make was trying to become an influencer myself. I think [influencers] are more apt to get back to me because they see me doing the same thing they are. I understand their struggles. I understand how hard it is to create content every day and put that out. I understand how to talk to them and how to work with them because I'm trying to be one. So I think one of the last things I learned is that a very strong value point if you want to do influencer marketing in tech, you should probably actually do it yourself to learn from them and earn their respect.” - Chris Cunningham</p><p>*”It's not like everything we do goes viral. So I think it's more of a long-term process, testing and learning your audience, but to me, going viral is just getting tons of shares, tons of comments. Likes are a small vanity metric. It's people talking about it, and then they're getting articles and news talking about it. That is what I care about and what my goal is every time we do anything.” - Chris Cunningham</p><p>*“One thing I think that I would like to be known for, and that I've always tried to do, is just testing new things. Does everything work? No. Like I've had plenty of failure. And that's what everyone will tell you, right? Fail, fail, fail. But I think you gotta go into things not caring about failure. I think it's just seeing what happens and having fun with it, and having some belief. So that's how we handle everything in marketing. I'm gonna keep trying new things.” - Chris Cunningham</p><p>*”The big piece of advice I'd like to leave everyone with is to not overthink, just start doing things. It's so easy to have a full plan and to type things up and get approvals. Just start doing things. Like, don't worry too much. Who cares about outcomes? Outcomes happen and sometimes they don't. And it's perfectly okay.” - Chris Cunningham</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Introducing ClickUp founding member and Head of Influencer Marketing, Chris Cunningham</p><p>[4:24] How does influencer marketing fit into ClickUp’s overall marketing strategy?</p><p>[9:03] How does influencer marketing work?</p><p>[13:37] The art of interviewing influencers</p><p>[16:43] How did ClickUp make a studio album?</p><p>[23:34] Where can you find the Work Flows album and other related content?</p><p>[24:00] How do you set KPIs for content like a studio album?</p><p>[25:25] How do you measure the ROI of content?</p><p>[31:32] How do you make viral content?</p><p>[35:03] When did Chris make the first song?</p><p>[40:12] What are Chris’ favorite pieces of content or campaigns?</p><p>[42:38] What’s something Chris is working on that he’s excited about?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/1Y3vCLtuIy9BpjKhBesDMr?si=VEWORqoSQaSSr8PiFy1wUw">Listen to Work Flows</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisclickup/">Connect with Chris on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://clickup.com/">Learn about ClickUp</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>B2B content feeling a little limp and lifeless? We have the answer. The one thing that will give it life, improve brand recall, and make it universally appealing: Put it to music. 

A Harvard study found that music is truly a universal language. Harvard correspondent Jed Gottlieb says, “Across societies, music is associated with behaviors such as infant care, healing, dance, love”...and work. And listening to music activates wide swaths of the brain, especially areas related to emotion. Simply put, using music in your marketing is your ticket to engaging and connecting emotionally with your audience, whoever and wherever they are. Including when they’re at work.

ClickUp is proof that music works in B2B marketing. They created the first ever full studio album from a tech company, and it took off. Featuring artists like Clever, who previously collaborated with Justin Bieber and Post Mallone, as well as Michael Minelli and Philip Good, the album has had over a million streams. 

On this episode of Remarkable, we’re taking a beat to talk with Chris Cunningham, Head of Influencer Marketing at ClickUp, about the creation of their studio album, Work Flows. We’re learning from him about what it takes to make an album for a B2B company, how to make viral content, and the best way to leverage influencers. So put your headphones on and turn up the bass for this episode of Remarkable.</itunes:summary>
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A Harvard study found that music is truly a universal language. Harvard correspondent Jed Gottlieb says, “Across societies, music is associated with behaviors such as infant care, healing, dance, love”...and work. And listening to music activates wide swaths of the brain, especially areas related to emotion. Simply put, using music in your marketing is your ticket to engaging and connecting emotionally with your audience, whoever and wherever they are. Including when they’re at work.

ClickUp is proof that music works in B2B marketing. They created the first ever full studio album from a tech company, and it took off. Featuring artists like Clever, who previously collaborated with Justin Bieber and Post Mallone, as well as Michael Minelli and Philip Good, the album has had over a million streams. 

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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Does it feel like you’re flailing for ideas ​​every time you’re starting a new campaign? </p><p>It’s good to have a place to start every time. To have a framework for your story that gives you loose benchmarks to meet so you’re not starting from scratch every time. It’s the answer to all the hard and repetitive work that goes into storytelling. It’s the antidote to marketer’s block. It’s marketing, codified.</p><p>Rick and Morty co-creator Dan Harmon came up with the “Story Circle,” an 8-step journey the characters go on in each episode akin to the Hero’s journey. And Harmon has used this framework for any new story, including for his work on the show Community. He says, “I can't not see that <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20170323180511/https://www.wired.com/2011/09/mf_harmon/all/">circle</a>. It's tattooed on my brain." This structure enabled Harmon to write over 60 episodes of the show, which has become the most watched TV comedy for adults between ages 18 and 24 as well as a <a href="https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/rick-and-morty-season-5-merchandise-1234998519/">hundred-million dollar media franchise</a>. </p><p>So on this episode of Remarkable, we’re looking to the Emmy Award-winning Adult Swim hit TV show for lessons on storytelling structure, the delightful use of absurdity, and much more. And chatting with us is Cube’s Director of Content and Brand Strategy, Sarah Frazier. Join us as we talk Pickle Rick and all things content marketing on this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About Rick and Morty</strong></p><p>Rick and Morty is an animated series on Cartoon Network’s Adult Swim about mad scientist Rick who takes his grandson, Morty, on sci-fi misadventures including things like inter-planetary travel. The series was created by Dan Harmon and Justin Roiland. Both Rick and Morty were voiced by Justin Roiland until 2023. (Adult Swim cut ties with Roiland following news that Roiland was facing felony charges for domestic violence. The charges have since been <a href="https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/justin-roiland-domestic-violence-charges-dropped-1235561877/">dropped</a>.) It also stars voice actors Chris Parnell as Jerry Smith, Spencer Grammer as Summer Smith and Sarah Chalke as Beth Smith. Rick and Morty started airing in 2013, and It’s won a slew of awards, including 2 Primetime Emmys. </p><p><strong>About our guest, Sarah Frazier</strong></p><p>Sarah Frazier is Director of Content and Brand Strategy at Cube. She joined the company in February 2023. Prior to Cube, she served as Head of Content Marketing at Podium, a platform for local businesses to get more reviews, collect payments, send text marketing campaigns, and centralize their communications. She has also held content marketing and demand gen roles for Drift and CustomerGauge.   </p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Rick and Morty: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Create a framework for your storytelling.</strong> Map out the stages of your story structure to give yourself a foundation for each campaign. It gives you a basis to build campaigns from instead of having to start from scratch every time. Co-creator of Rick and Morty, Dan Harmon says creating the story circle was his “attempt to remove all the hard and repeated work from the task of breaking a story.” So do yourself a favor and create a framework for each campaign to start from.</li><li><strong>Employ absurdity.</strong> Be ridiculous and wildly unreasonable as a way to grab audience attention. When blended with seriousness, clever humor, and creative ideas, it’s a surefire way to keep your audience interested. Sarah says, “The inherent randomness of our own lives makes us feel better to see it played out on the screen. The ability to see like you are maybe not solely responsible for the things that happen to you, that there is inherent randomness in the universe. But ultimately the lesson is like you are responsible for how you react to those things. Very similar to how you deal with customers and potential customers. They're going to come at you with all sorts of questions and comments, things that you didn't consider. It’s how you react to those things that creates remarkable moments for them where you are a memorable vendor in their head and you define the journey for those folks.”</li><li><strong>Speak to the pain points of the employee, not the organization.</strong> Connect with your audience by sharing relatable stories, and by showcasing your solution as the answer to their personal growth. Sarah says, “Some of the best storytelling that happens today is where you're talking about someone late at night in front of their laptop, elbows deep in trying to solve a problem, and it's like something that's a lot more personal. You're talking about like someone saving their career versus someone using tech to solve a problem for their organization, which is such a boring narrative that we hear all the time. I think where people are succeeding is where they can lean a little bit more into that, ‘How can I help you further your career?’ versus like, ‘How can I help your company do this?’”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”When you can ground things in a process, then you can use that mental energy to focus on creating something that's more interesting or more absurd. And if you don't have to worry about the flow and the process and the structure, then you can really use that brain power for something else.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”We're always talking about scaling in marketing. And particularly in tech startups because we want to move fast and iterate. But what are those unscalable moments that we can create for customers that feel wholly unique to them?” - Sarah Frazier</p><p>*“Some of the best storytelling that happens today is where you're talking about someone late at night in front of their laptop, elbows deep in trying to solve a problem, and it's like something that's a lot more personal. You're talking about like someone saving their career versus someone using tech to solve a problem for their organization, which is such a boring narrative that we hear all the time. I think where people are succeeding is where they can lean a little bit more into that, ‘How can I help you further your career?’ versus like, ‘How can I help your company do this?’” - Sarah Frazier</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Introducing Director of Content and Brand Strategy at Cube Sarah Frazier</p><p>[2:06] Why are we talking about Rick and Morty?</p><p>[2:54] What is Rick and Morty?</p><p>[4:10] What’s Dan Harmon’s Circle Story?</p><p>[5:21] What makes Rick and Morty remarkable?</p><p>[8:55] Why should you use absurdism in marketing?</p><p>[18:10] Why it’s important to feature customer stories</p><p>[23:24] What we can learn from Rick and Morty about making parodies in B2B marketing</p><p>[24:30] What’s Cube’s content strategy?</p><p>[27:19] How does Sarah prove the ROI of content marketing?</p><p>[32:06] How do you make a useful, bookmark-able template?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.hulu.com/series/d76d6361-3fbf-4842-8dd7-e05520557280">Watch Rick and Morty</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahfrazierwrites/">Connect with Sarah on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.cube-technologies.com/en/">Learn more about Cube</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG4WcRAgm7Y">Watch Dan Harmon explain the Circle Story</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does it feel like you’re flailing for ideas ​​every time you’re starting a new campaign? </p><p>It’s good to have a place to start every time. To have a framework for your story that gives you loose benchmarks to meet so you’re not starting from scratch every time. It’s the answer to all the hard and repetitive work that goes into storytelling. It’s the antidote to marketer’s block. It’s marketing, codified.</p><p>Rick and Morty co-creator Dan Harmon came up with the “Story Circle,” an 8-step journey the characters go on in each episode akin to the Hero’s journey. And Harmon has used this framework for any new story, including for his work on the show Community. He says, “I can't not see that <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20170323180511/https://www.wired.com/2011/09/mf_harmon/all/">circle</a>. It's tattooed on my brain." This structure enabled Harmon to write over 60 episodes of the show, which has become the most watched TV comedy for adults between ages 18 and 24 as well as a <a href="https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/rick-and-morty-season-5-merchandise-1234998519/">hundred-million dollar media franchise</a>. </p><p>So on this episode of Remarkable, we’re looking to the Emmy Award-winning Adult Swim hit TV show for lessons on storytelling structure, the delightful use of absurdity, and much more. And chatting with us is Cube’s Director of Content and Brand Strategy, Sarah Frazier. Join us as we talk Pickle Rick and all things content marketing on this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About Rick and Morty</strong></p><p>Rick and Morty is an animated series on Cartoon Network’s Adult Swim about mad scientist Rick who takes his grandson, Morty, on sci-fi misadventures including things like inter-planetary travel. The series was created by Dan Harmon and Justin Roiland. Both Rick and Morty were voiced by Justin Roiland until 2023. (Adult Swim cut ties with Roiland following news that Roiland was facing felony charges for domestic violence. The charges have since been <a href="https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/justin-roiland-domestic-violence-charges-dropped-1235561877/">dropped</a>.) It also stars voice actors Chris Parnell as Jerry Smith, Spencer Grammer as Summer Smith and Sarah Chalke as Beth Smith. Rick and Morty started airing in 2013, and It’s won a slew of awards, including 2 Primetime Emmys. </p><p><strong>About our guest, Sarah Frazier</strong></p><p>Sarah Frazier is Director of Content and Brand Strategy at Cube. She joined the company in February 2023. Prior to Cube, she served as Head of Content Marketing at Podium, a platform for local businesses to get more reviews, collect payments, send text marketing campaigns, and centralize their communications. She has also held content marketing and demand gen roles for Drift and CustomerGauge.   </p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Rick and Morty: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Create a framework for your storytelling.</strong> Map out the stages of your story structure to give yourself a foundation for each campaign. It gives you a basis to build campaigns from instead of having to start from scratch every time. Co-creator of Rick and Morty, Dan Harmon says creating the story circle was his “attempt to remove all the hard and repeated work from the task of breaking a story.” So do yourself a favor and create a framework for each campaign to start from.</li><li><strong>Employ absurdity.</strong> Be ridiculous and wildly unreasonable as a way to grab audience attention. When blended with seriousness, clever humor, and creative ideas, it’s a surefire way to keep your audience interested. Sarah says, “The inherent randomness of our own lives makes us feel better to see it played out on the screen. The ability to see like you are maybe not solely responsible for the things that happen to you, that there is inherent randomness in the universe. But ultimately the lesson is like you are responsible for how you react to those things. Very similar to how you deal with customers and potential customers. They're going to come at you with all sorts of questions and comments, things that you didn't consider. It’s how you react to those things that creates remarkable moments for them where you are a memorable vendor in their head and you define the journey for those folks.”</li><li><strong>Speak to the pain points of the employee, not the organization.</strong> Connect with your audience by sharing relatable stories, and by showcasing your solution as the answer to their personal growth. Sarah says, “Some of the best storytelling that happens today is where you're talking about someone late at night in front of their laptop, elbows deep in trying to solve a problem, and it's like something that's a lot more personal. You're talking about like someone saving their career versus someone using tech to solve a problem for their organization, which is such a boring narrative that we hear all the time. I think where people are succeeding is where they can lean a little bit more into that, ‘How can I help you further your career?’ versus like, ‘How can I help your company do this?’”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”When you can ground things in a process, then you can use that mental energy to focus on creating something that's more interesting or more absurd. And if you don't have to worry about the flow and the process and the structure, then you can really use that brain power for something else.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”We're always talking about scaling in marketing. And particularly in tech startups because we want to move fast and iterate. But what are those unscalable moments that we can create for customers that feel wholly unique to them?” - Sarah Frazier</p><p>*“Some of the best storytelling that happens today is where you're talking about someone late at night in front of their laptop, elbows deep in trying to solve a problem, and it's like something that's a lot more personal. You're talking about like someone saving their career versus someone using tech to solve a problem for their organization, which is such a boring narrative that we hear all the time. I think where people are succeeding is where they can lean a little bit more into that, ‘How can I help you further your career?’ versus like, ‘How can I help your company do this?’” - Sarah Frazier</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] Introducing Director of Content and Brand Strategy at Cube Sarah Frazier</p><p>[2:06] Why are we talking about Rick and Morty?</p><p>[2:54] What is Rick and Morty?</p><p>[4:10] What’s Dan Harmon’s Circle Story?</p><p>[5:21] What makes Rick and Morty remarkable?</p><p>[8:55] Why should you use absurdism in marketing?</p><p>[18:10] Why it’s important to feature customer stories</p><p>[23:24] What we can learn from Rick and Morty about making parodies in B2B marketing</p><p>[24:30] What’s Cube’s content strategy?</p><p>[27:19] How does Sarah prove the ROI of content marketing?</p><p>[32:06] How do you make a useful, bookmark-able template?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.hulu.com/series/d76d6361-3fbf-4842-8dd7-e05520557280">Watch Rick and Morty</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahfrazierwrites/">Connect with Sarah on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.cube-technologies.com/en/">Learn more about Cube</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG4WcRAgm7Y">Watch Dan Harmon explain the Circle Story</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>Does it feel like you’re flailing for ideas ​​every time you’re starting a new campaign? 

It’s good to have a place to start every time. To have a framework for your story that gives you loose benchmarks to meet so you’re not starting from scratch every time. It’s the answer to all the hard and repetitive work that goes into storytelling. It’s the antidote to marketer’s block. It’s marketing, codified.

Rick and Morty co-creator Dan Harmon came up with the “Story Circle,” an 8-step journey the characters go on in each episode akin to the Hero’s journey. And Harmon has used this framework for any new story, including for his work on the show Community. He says, “I can&apos;t not see that circle. It&apos;s tattooed on my brain.&quot; This structure enabled Harmon to write over 60 episodes of the show, which has become the most watched TV comedy for adults between ages 18 and 24 as well as a hundred-million dollar media franchise. 

So on this episode of Remarkable, we’re looking to the Emmy Award-winning Adult Swim hit TV show for lessons on storytelling structure, the delightful use of absurdity, and much more. And chatting with us is Cube’s Director of Content and Brand Strategy, Sarah Frazier. Join us as we talk Pickle Rick and all things content marketing on this episode of Remarkable.</itunes:summary>
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It’s good to have a place to start every time. To have a framework for your story that gives you loose benchmarks to meet so you’re not starting from scratch every time. It’s the answer to all the hard and repetitive work that goes into storytelling. It’s the antidote to marketer’s block. It’s marketing, codified.

Rick and Morty co-creator Dan Harmon came up with the “Story Circle,” an 8-step journey the characters go on in each episode akin to the Hero’s journey. And Harmon has used this framework for any new story, including for his work on the show Community. He says, “I can&apos;t not see that circle. It&apos;s tattooed on my brain.&quot; This structure enabled Harmon to write over 60 episodes of the show, which has become the most watched TV comedy for adults between ages 18 and 24 as well as a hundred-million dollar media franchise. 

So on this episode of Remarkable, we’re looking to the Emmy Award-winning Adult Swim hit TV show for lessons on storytelling structure, the delightful use of absurdity, and much more. And chatting with us is Cube’s Director of Content and Brand Strategy, Sarah Frazier. Join us as we talk Pickle Rick and all things content marketing on this episode of Remarkable.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>It’s time to take a risk with your B2B content marketing. </p><p>To create a top of funnel piece of content that’s truly unique. Because it’s easy to resort to the “safe” conventional strategies and industry jargon. With everyone using AI tools to pump out B2B content, you can’t afford to make one more thing that just fades into the crowd. </p><p>So what if instead of a webinar or a slide deck, you made a murder mystery starring Kate Mara from House of Cards and Stranger Things’ Brett Gelman? We’re referring to the original podcast that debuted in the top 20 comedy fiction shows on Apple Podcasts: Murder in HR, presented by Gympass and produced by us here at Caspian Studios. </p><p>On this episode of Remarkable, we’re showing you why it pays to take a risk in your content marketing. And how creative narratives can help your brand break through the noise, leave a lasting impression on your target audience, and revolutionize your B2B marketing strategy. So brace yourself for this very special episode of Remarkable where we talk with Gympass’ VP of Content Marketing, Chris Dean, about the creation of Murder in HR.</p><p><strong>About Murder in HR</strong></p><p>Murder in HR is a podcast about a woman named Jemma who just started a new job as Employee Experience Manager at a tech startup. On her first day at the company all-hands, one of her co-workers gets electrocuted. It’s while investigating his death that she discovers he was murdered. So she teams up with her Chief People Officer, Nicholas, to find out who the murderer is. So armed with her HR skills, Jemma investigates her toxic colleagues while trying not to become the next victim herself. Murder in HR is an original podcast murder mystery starring the voices of Kate Mara and Brett Gelman, produced by Caspian Studios and presented by Gympass. </p><p><strong>About our guest, Chris Dean</strong></p><p>Chris Dean is VP of Content Marketing at Gympass, having joined the company in September of 2022. Prior to his current role, he served as Executive Director of Content Marketing and SEO at Ramsey Solutions. He has also served as Global Content Marketing & Public Relations Manager at Albemarle.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Murder in HR: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Take a risk.</strong> Create a piece of content that transcends expectations in B2B marketing. Infuse storytelling into your marketing efforts to create a compelling and relatable narrative that engages and resonates with potential clients. Chris says that the availability of AI along with the need to grow brand recognition for Gympass in the U.S. drove them to create something top of funnel and unique. He says, “We didn't want to do some crazy stunt that got us a spike of awareness for the wrong reasons. We wanted something meaningful. We wanted something that was going to resonate with HR representatives. We wanted to give them a reason to continue to come back to us.” And Murder in HR was born.</li><li><strong>Use brand integrations.</strong> Put your branding into the story in a subtle and seamless way to blend into the plot while hinting at the benefits of your product. Gympass wanted to use brand integrations like Steven Spielberg (e.g. Reese’s Pieces in E.T.), fitting marketing for Gympass organically into the story structure of Murder in HR. Ian says that the way they integrated Gympass in the story was that the company in the story uses Gym Pass as part of their benefits. It’s a proven technique used from B2C, Hollywood and beyond to drive business.</li><li><strong>Create an experience.</strong> Make every piece of content fit the customer journey. Chris says, “The worst thing that you can have in content marketing is a dead end piece of content. It all needs to be part of a longer experience.” And that experience pushes customers to your website. But the thing about Gympass is they’re not trying to rush it. For them, it’s about creating a more seamless, enjoyable, and one-of-a-kind experience. Chris says, “It's all about continuing the conversation and offering up the next logical step for them to take with us.” So sit back and enjoy the ride.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“If they're listening to the podcast, they might not even know they have an HR related problem at their company. We're introducing the problem to them so that now they're problem aware. And then they're solution seeking because it's like, ‘Okay, I don't want these toxic behaviors. What can I do about it?’ And then once Gympass is introduced into that, then they're solution aware and they know that Gympass could be a possible solution for them.” - Chris Dean</p><p>*”Our brand awareness activities need to be driving brand traffic. And so we should be seeing a continuous increase there from all of our activities. The challenge is associating one individual activity with that traffic profile. But whenever we have a launch of something, we can look on that traffic profile, and we see a distinct spike that perfectly aligns with that. And so that gives us an indication of the traffic impact of that activity.” - Chris Dean</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[1:55] Get to know Chris Dean, VP of Content Marketing at Gympass</p><p>[4:21] Why is Murder in HR groundbreaking?</p><p>[7:57] What was the impetus behind creating Murder in HR?</p><p>[8:48] Tell me more about Murder in HR</p><p>[15:45] How did the podcast incorporate brand integrations for Gympass?</p><p>[21:35] What was the inspiration behind Murder in HR? And how did they use experiential marketing?</p><p>[27:13] How do they think about the customer journey at Gympass?</p><p>[32:04] How does Gympass measure the ROI of top of funnel or brand awareness content?</p><p>[36:45] Chris Dean’s advice for other B2B content marketers</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/murder-in-hr/id1701005795">Listen to Murder in HR</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisdeanm/">Connect with Chris on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://gympass.com/en-us">Learn more about Gympass</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s time to take a risk with your B2B content marketing. </p><p>To create a top of funnel piece of content that’s truly unique. Because it’s easy to resort to the “safe” conventional strategies and industry jargon. With everyone using AI tools to pump out B2B content, you can’t afford to make one more thing that just fades into the crowd. </p><p>So what if instead of a webinar or a slide deck, you made a murder mystery starring Kate Mara from House of Cards and Stranger Things’ Brett Gelman? We’re referring to the original podcast that debuted in the top 20 comedy fiction shows on Apple Podcasts: Murder in HR, presented by Gympass and produced by us here at Caspian Studios. </p><p>On this episode of Remarkable, we’re showing you why it pays to take a risk in your content marketing. And how creative narratives can help your brand break through the noise, leave a lasting impression on your target audience, and revolutionize your B2B marketing strategy. So brace yourself for this very special episode of Remarkable where we talk with Gympass’ VP of Content Marketing, Chris Dean, about the creation of Murder in HR.</p><p><strong>About Murder in HR</strong></p><p>Murder in HR is a podcast about a woman named Jemma who just started a new job as Employee Experience Manager at a tech startup. On her first day at the company all-hands, one of her co-workers gets electrocuted. It’s while investigating his death that she discovers he was murdered. So she teams up with her Chief People Officer, Nicholas, to find out who the murderer is. So armed with her HR skills, Jemma investigates her toxic colleagues while trying not to become the next victim herself. Murder in HR is an original podcast murder mystery starring the voices of Kate Mara and Brett Gelman, produced by Caspian Studios and presented by Gympass. </p><p><strong>About our guest, Chris Dean</strong></p><p>Chris Dean is VP of Content Marketing at Gympass, having joined the company in September of 2022. Prior to his current role, he served as Executive Director of Content Marketing and SEO at Ramsey Solutions. He has also served as Global Content Marketing & Public Relations Manager at Albemarle.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Murder in HR: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Take a risk.</strong> Create a piece of content that transcends expectations in B2B marketing. Infuse storytelling into your marketing efforts to create a compelling and relatable narrative that engages and resonates with potential clients. Chris says that the availability of AI along with the need to grow brand recognition for Gympass in the U.S. drove them to create something top of funnel and unique. He says, “We didn't want to do some crazy stunt that got us a spike of awareness for the wrong reasons. We wanted something meaningful. We wanted something that was going to resonate with HR representatives. We wanted to give them a reason to continue to come back to us.” And Murder in HR was born.</li><li><strong>Use brand integrations.</strong> Put your branding into the story in a subtle and seamless way to blend into the plot while hinting at the benefits of your product. Gympass wanted to use brand integrations like Steven Spielberg (e.g. Reese’s Pieces in E.T.), fitting marketing for Gympass organically into the story structure of Murder in HR. Ian says that the way they integrated Gympass in the story was that the company in the story uses Gym Pass as part of their benefits. It’s a proven technique used from B2C, Hollywood and beyond to drive business.</li><li><strong>Create an experience.</strong> Make every piece of content fit the customer journey. Chris says, “The worst thing that you can have in content marketing is a dead end piece of content. It all needs to be part of a longer experience.” And that experience pushes customers to your website. But the thing about Gympass is they’re not trying to rush it. For them, it’s about creating a more seamless, enjoyable, and one-of-a-kind experience. Chris says, “It's all about continuing the conversation and offering up the next logical step for them to take with us.” So sit back and enjoy the ride.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“If they're listening to the podcast, they might not even know they have an HR related problem at their company. We're introducing the problem to them so that now they're problem aware. And then they're solution seeking because it's like, ‘Okay, I don't want these toxic behaviors. What can I do about it?’ And then once Gympass is introduced into that, then they're solution aware and they know that Gympass could be a possible solution for them.” - Chris Dean</p><p>*”Our brand awareness activities need to be driving brand traffic. And so we should be seeing a continuous increase there from all of our activities. The challenge is associating one individual activity with that traffic profile. But whenever we have a launch of something, we can look on that traffic profile, and we see a distinct spike that perfectly aligns with that. And so that gives us an indication of the traffic impact of that activity.” - Chris Dean</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[1:55] Get to know Chris Dean, VP of Content Marketing at Gympass</p><p>[4:21] Why is Murder in HR groundbreaking?</p><p>[7:57] What was the impetus behind creating Murder in HR?</p><p>[8:48] Tell me more about Murder in HR</p><p>[15:45] How did the podcast incorporate brand integrations for Gympass?</p><p>[21:35] What was the inspiration behind Murder in HR? 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Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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To create a top of funnel piece of content that’s truly unique. Because it’s easy to resort to the “safe” conventional strategies and industry jargon. With everyone using AI tools to pump out B2B content, you can’t afford to make one more thing that just fades into the crowd. 

So what if instead of a webinar or a slide deck, you made a murder mystery starring Kate Mara from House of Cards and Stranger Things’ Brett Gelman? We’re referring to the original podcast that debuted in the top 20 comedy fiction shows on Apple Podcasts: Murder in HR, presented by Gympass and produced by us here at Caspian Studios. 

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So what if instead of a webinar or a slide deck, you made a murder mystery starring Kate Mara from House of Cards and Stranger Things’ Brett Gelman? We’re referring to the original podcast that debuted in the top 20 comedy fiction shows on Apple Podcasts: Murder in HR, presented by Gympass and produced by us here at Caspian Studios. 

On this episode of Remarkable, we’re showing you why it pays to take a risk in your content marketing. And how creative narratives can help your brand break through the noise, leave a lasting impression on your target audience, and revolutionize your B2B marketing strategy. So brace yourself for this very special episode of Remarkable where we talk with Gympass’ VP of Content Marketing, Chris Dean, about the creation of Murder in HR. </itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Your employees have untapped star potential. Think about it.</p><p>We all love a little drama, some hot gossip, some spilt tea. And it happens in the office just as much as it happens in a high-end restaurant. We’re not saying you should stir it up for the sake of creating content, but it’s the personalities, interpersonal relationships, and social politics that attract an audience. And you aren’t tapping into that audience. Not yet.</p><p>If someone were to say, “Want to watch a show about waiters at a fancy restaurant?” You’d probably say no. Well, you’d be saying no to Bravo’s “crown jewel” with over <a href="https://www.vox.com/culture/2023/6/2/23745691/scandoval-vanderpump-rules-reunion-episode-2-ariana-madix#:~:text=Scandoval%20has%20turned%20Vanderpump%20Rules,and%20Peacock%2C%20a%20series%20high.">4 million viewers</a> and each member of the cast earning at least $25,000 an episode: Vanderpump Rules. The show made celebrities out of their waitstaff and earned a dedicated following for ten seasons with an <a href="https://www.bravotv.com/the-daily-dish/vanderpump-rules-get-your-first-look-at-season-11#:~:text=Watch%20Vanderpump%20Rules%20on%20Bravo,post%20shared%20on%20July%202.">eleventh season</a> on the way. </p><p>So on this episode of Remarkable, we’re asking the question: “Want to make a series about the employees at your B2B tech company?” To do that, we’re joined by PandaDoc Head of Content Bethany Fagan. Together, we're turning to the reality TV sensation to learn about creating a series, leveraging divisible content, putting your talent front and center, and posting where your competitors aren’t. So pour yourself some rosé and put your feet up because we’re talking Scandoval-and-all on this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About Vanderpump Rules</strong></p><p>Vanderpump Rules is a reality TV show about former Real Housewives star Lisa Vanderpump and her staff at her high end restaurants and bars in West Hollywood, including SUR [Sexy Unique Restaurant] Restaurant & Lounge, Pump Restaurant and Tom Tom Restaurant & Bar. It’s a spinoff of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. It focuses on the interpersonal relationships and drama among the employees, including Kristen Doute, Katie Maloney, Tom Sandoval, Stassi Schroeder and Jax Taylor. So there are blooming romantic relationships, cheating, divorce, marriage, betrayals, etc. The first season aired in 2013 and now there are 10 seasons out, all on Bravo.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Bethany Fagan</strong></p><p>Bethany Fagan is Head of Content at PandaDoc. She has been with PandaDoc for over 7 years, having joined in February 2016 as Partner Marketing Manager. Prior to PandaDoc, she served as Director of Content and PR at iQ media. She is a founding member of Sales Hacker, Inc. and an Associate Member of Pavilion. She is based in the Washington D.C.-Baltimore area.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Vanderpump Rules: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Create a series.</strong> Make a podcast or video series for your organization. Use the content in its entirety or cut it into smaller pieces and post it across social media channels. It diversifies your content asset production, spreads brand awareness and accesses new audiences. Bethany says that last year, they saw a 79% increase in their social media followers. And she credits that growth to the PandaDoc podcast, The Customer Engagement Lab, which Bethany’s team started in 2020. Lisa Vanderpump’s leveraging of reality tv has resulted in <a href="https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/vanderpump-rules-inside-lisa-vanderpump-s-bravo-show-growing-restaurant-empire-1267494/">as many as 2,000 diners</a> showing up to her restaurants on a busy night, and a net worth of somewhere around <a href="https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/celebs/a36449932/lisa-vanderpump-net-worth/">$90 million</a>.</li><li><strong>Use the talent you have.</strong> People are drawn to companies they can relate to. Put faces to the company name and focus on the relationships to impart authenticity and humanize your brand. On top of this benefitting your company’s brand, you’re also leveraging the personal brands of each employee involved. If one of them gets fans, it magnifies your company’s brand and theirs. Likewise, Lisa Vanderpump features her employees in Vanderpump Rules. Each of them has a personal brand that they’ve built outside of the show that fans relate to. That’s why Jax, Stassi and Ariana all have millions of Instagram followers. And why Stassi, Katie, and Kristen were able to launch a wine company together. Because fans want to buy into their personal brands.</li><li><strong>Go where your competitors aren’t. </strong>Post your marketing content on Instagram if your competitors use LinkedIn and Facebook. Bethany says PandaDoc is posting to TikTok simply because the DocuSigns and the Adobe Signs of the world weren’t on it. And month-over-month, they see a 10 to 20% increase in followers. It's a winning strategy to grow your brand.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Content marketing 101 is repurposing and getting more juice from the squeeze.” - Bethany Fagan</p><p>*”From a content team perspective, we just try to control the controllable. You know, what are some of the metrics that I know that matter that I can confidently report on and try to tie that back to revenue for the business? That's how I tell the story with my leadership team, and that's how I get them to invest in more content for us.” - Bethany Fagan</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[1:28] Get to know Bethany Fagan, Head of Content at PandaDoc</p><p>[2:38] Why are we covering Vanderpump Rules?</p><p>[3:31] Learn more about Vanderpump Rules</p><p>[7:20] Why is Scandoval so attention-grabbing?</p><p>[9:41] What contributed to Vanderpump Rules’ longevity?</p><p>[14:26] What B2B marketing lessons can we take from Vanderpump Rules? (And how has PandaDoc leveraged these lessons?)</p><p>[16:24] The power of diversifying marketing content and leveraging its divisible content</p><p>[24:01] About PandaDoc’s TikTok debut and how to measure success on a new social media platform</p><p>[27:23] Learn more about PandaDoc’s content strategy with their podcast, The Customer Engagement Lab</p><p>[32:27] How to get leadership on board to invest in new content</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.bravotv.com/vanderpump-rules/watch/episodes">Watch Vanderpump Rules</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/bethanyfagan/">Connect with Bethany Fagan on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.pandadoc.com/">Learn more about PandaDoc</a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-customer-engagement-lab/id1552793751">Check out PandaDoc’s podcast, The Customer Engagement Lab</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Bethany Fagan, Ian Faison, Meredith Gooderham, Colin Stamps, Francy Goudreault)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your employees have untapped star potential. Think about it.</p><p>We all love a little drama, some hot gossip, some spilt tea. And it happens in the office just as much as it happens in a high-end restaurant. We’re not saying you should stir it up for the sake of creating content, but it’s the personalities, interpersonal relationships, and social politics that attract an audience. And you aren’t tapping into that audience. Not yet.</p><p>If someone were to say, “Want to watch a show about waiters at a fancy restaurant?” You’d probably say no. Well, you’d be saying no to Bravo’s “crown jewel” with over <a href="https://www.vox.com/culture/2023/6/2/23745691/scandoval-vanderpump-rules-reunion-episode-2-ariana-madix#:~:text=Scandoval%20has%20turned%20Vanderpump%20Rules,and%20Peacock%2C%20a%20series%20high.">4 million viewers</a> and each member of the cast earning at least $25,000 an episode: Vanderpump Rules. The show made celebrities out of their waitstaff and earned a dedicated following for ten seasons with an <a href="https://www.bravotv.com/the-daily-dish/vanderpump-rules-get-your-first-look-at-season-11#:~:text=Watch%20Vanderpump%20Rules%20on%20Bravo,post%20shared%20on%20July%202.">eleventh season</a> on the way. </p><p>So on this episode of Remarkable, we’re asking the question: “Want to make a series about the employees at your B2B tech company?” To do that, we’re joined by PandaDoc Head of Content Bethany Fagan. Together, we're turning to the reality TV sensation to learn about creating a series, leveraging divisible content, putting your talent front and center, and posting where your competitors aren’t. So pour yourself some rosé and put your feet up because we’re talking Scandoval-and-all on this episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About Vanderpump Rules</strong></p><p>Vanderpump Rules is a reality TV show about former Real Housewives star Lisa Vanderpump and her staff at her high end restaurants and bars in West Hollywood, including SUR [Sexy Unique Restaurant] Restaurant & Lounge, Pump Restaurant and Tom Tom Restaurant & Bar. It’s a spinoff of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. It focuses on the interpersonal relationships and drama among the employees, including Kristen Doute, Katie Maloney, Tom Sandoval, Stassi Schroeder and Jax Taylor. So there are blooming romantic relationships, cheating, divorce, marriage, betrayals, etc. The first season aired in 2013 and now there are 10 seasons out, all on Bravo.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Bethany Fagan</strong></p><p>Bethany Fagan is Head of Content at PandaDoc. She has been with PandaDoc for over 7 years, having joined in February 2016 as Partner Marketing Manager. Prior to PandaDoc, she served as Director of Content and PR at iQ media. She is a founding member of Sales Hacker, Inc. and an Associate Member of Pavilion. She is based in the Washington D.C.-Baltimore area.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Vanderpump Rules: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Create a series.</strong> Make a podcast or video series for your organization. Use the content in its entirety or cut it into smaller pieces and post it across social media channels. It diversifies your content asset production, spreads brand awareness and accesses new audiences. Bethany says that last year, they saw a 79% increase in their social media followers. And she credits that growth to the PandaDoc podcast, The Customer Engagement Lab, which Bethany’s team started in 2020. Lisa Vanderpump’s leveraging of reality tv has resulted in <a href="https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/vanderpump-rules-inside-lisa-vanderpump-s-bravo-show-growing-restaurant-empire-1267494/">as many as 2,000 diners</a> showing up to her restaurants on a busy night, and a net worth of somewhere around <a href="https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/celebs/a36449932/lisa-vanderpump-net-worth/">$90 million</a>.</li><li><strong>Use the talent you have.</strong> People are drawn to companies they can relate to. Put faces to the company name and focus on the relationships to impart authenticity and humanize your brand. On top of this benefitting your company’s brand, you’re also leveraging the personal brands of each employee involved. If one of them gets fans, it magnifies your company’s brand and theirs. Likewise, Lisa Vanderpump features her employees in Vanderpump Rules. Each of them has a personal brand that they’ve built outside of the show that fans relate to. That’s why Jax, Stassi and Ariana all have millions of Instagram followers. And why Stassi, Katie, and Kristen were able to launch a wine company together. Because fans want to buy into their personal brands.</li><li><strong>Go where your competitors aren’t. </strong>Post your marketing content on Instagram if your competitors use LinkedIn and Facebook. Bethany says PandaDoc is posting to TikTok simply because the DocuSigns and the Adobe Signs of the world weren’t on it. And month-over-month, they see a 10 to 20% increase in followers. It's a winning strategy to grow your brand.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Content marketing 101 is repurposing and getting more juice from the squeeze.” - Bethany Fagan</p><p>*”From a content team perspective, we just try to control the controllable. You know, what are some of the metrics that I know that matter that I can confidently report on and try to tie that back to revenue for the business? That's how I tell the story with my leadership team, and that's how I get them to invest in more content for us.” - Bethany Fagan</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[1:28] Get to know Bethany Fagan, Head of Content at PandaDoc</p><p>[2:38] Why are we covering Vanderpump Rules?</p><p>[3:31] Learn more about Vanderpump Rules</p><p>[7:20] Why is Scandoval so attention-grabbing?</p><p>[9:41] What contributed to Vanderpump Rules’ longevity?</p><p>[14:26] What B2B marketing lessons can we take from Vanderpump Rules? (And how has PandaDoc leveraged these lessons?)</p><p>[16:24] The power of diversifying marketing content and leveraging its divisible content</p><p>[24:01] About PandaDoc’s TikTok debut and how to measure success on a new social media platform</p><p>[27:23] Learn more about PandaDoc’s content strategy with their podcast, The Customer Engagement Lab</p><p>[32:27] How to get leadership on board to invest in new content</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.bravotv.com/vanderpump-rules/watch/episodes">Watch Vanderpump Rules</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/bethanyfagan/">Connect with Bethany Fagan on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.pandadoc.com/">Learn more about PandaDoc</a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-customer-engagement-lab/id1552793751">Check out PandaDoc’s podcast, The Customer Engagement Lab</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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We all love a little drama, some hot gossip, some spilt tea. And it happens in the office just as much as it happens in a high-end restaurant. We’re not saying you should stir it up for the sake of creating content, but it’s the personalities, interpersonal relationships, and social politics that attract an audience. And you aren’t tapping into that audience. Not yet.

If someone were to say, “Want to watch a show about waiters at a fancy restaurant?” You’d probably say no. Well, you’d be saying no to Bravo’s “crown jewel” with over 4 million viewers and each member of the cast earning at least $25,000 an episode: Vanderpump Rules. The show made celebrities out of their waitstaff and earned a dedicated following for ten seasons with an eleventh season on the way. 

So on this episode of Remarkable, we’re asking the question: “Want to make a series about the employees at your B2B tech company?” To do that, we’re joined by PandaDoc Head of Content Bethany Fagan. Together, we&apos;re turning to the reality TV sensation to learn about creating a series, leveraging divisible content, putting your talent front and center, and posting where your competitors aren’t. So pour yourself some rosé and put your feet up because we’re talking Scandoval-and-all on this episode of Remarkable.</itunes:summary>
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We all love a little drama, some hot gossip, some spilt tea. And it happens in the office just as much as it happens in a high-end restaurant. We’re not saying you should stir it up for the sake of creating content, but it’s the personalities, interpersonal relationships, and social politics that attract an audience. And you aren’t tapping into that audience. Not yet.

If someone were to say, “Want to watch a show about waiters at a fancy restaurant?” You’d probably say no. Well, you’d be saying no to Bravo’s “crown jewel” with over 4 million viewers and each member of the cast earning at least $25,000 an episode: Vanderpump Rules. The show made celebrities out of their waitstaff and earned a dedicated following for ten seasons with an eleventh season on the way. 

So on this episode of Remarkable, we’re asking the question: “Want to make a series about the employees at your B2B tech company?” To do that, we’re joined by PandaDoc Head of Content Bethany Fagan. Together, we&apos;re turning to the reality TV sensation to learn about creating a series, leveraging divisible content, putting your talent front and center, and posting where your competitors aren’t. So pour yourself some rosé and put your feet up because we’re talking Scandoval-and-all on this episode of Remarkable.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Speed: B2B Marketing Lessons on Blissfully Simple Storytelling from the 90s Classic Movie with Chris Hutchins, Director of Content Strategy at 6Sense</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Can you sum up your marketing message in three words? (And would customers “get” it?)</p><p>Like, can you write it in plain language—just a few words that would make sense to your audience? Because if you - the B2B marketer - get it, your audience will too, right? Maybe not.</p><p>On this episode of Remarkable, we’re learning from the 90s classic movie Speed about keeping it simple. The movie can literally be summed up in three words: “Bomb on bus.” It’s a blissfully simple premise that rocked viewers, made Keanu Reeves and Sandra Bullock stars, and raked in $350 million dollars at the box office. </p><p>And we’re bringing on board Director of Content Strategy at 6Sense, Chris Hutchins, to talk storytelling, using character tropes, and fictionalizing your B2B marketing. So grab your popcorn and buckle up for the wild ride that is this latest, greatest episode of Remarkable as we talk about Speed (“Not the drug, but the movie” - Ian Faison).</p><p><strong>About the movie Speed</strong></p><p>Speed is a 1994 action movie starring Keanu Reeves as young police officer Jack Traven who has to keep a bomb from exploding on a city bus by staying above 50 mph. It also stars Sandra Bullock as the female counterpoint, Annie, who ironically had had her drivers’ license revoked for speeding but steps in when the bus driver is shot. And of course the villain is played by Dennis Hopper as Howard Payne, the madman who rigged the bus with the bomb in the first place. Speed was written by Graham Yost and directed by Jan de Bont.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Chris Hutchins</strong></p><p>Chris is a versatile, deadline-driven content director, editor and writer with corporate go-to-market, creative agency and professional journalism experience. He uses nimble workflows to produce world-class content at scale. His agency work has engaged millions of consumers worldwide.</p><p>Chris is currently the Director of Content Strategy for 6sense, an ABM platform. He also provides consulting services for SMBs that need help with content strategy, content production, branding and messaging.</p><p>In addition, he helps craft award-winning immersive marketing narratives, screenplays and novels for companies such as 20th Century Fox, A&E, Cinemax, Discovery, FOX Broadcasting, Infiniti, Macmillan Publishers and Ubisoft. He has been profiled by The New York Times, The Washington Post, NPR’s Weekend Edition, ABC Radio and the BBC.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Speed: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Keep the story simple.</strong> Use simple, straightforward language to explain what your marketing message is. Drop the jargon and boil down your message. Chris says that your audience needs a simple story, especially in the beginning, “to get the hook and begin to get an understanding of our content or product.” He says you don’t want prospective customers opening your site to find the content to be far over their heads. Speed does this with its simple premise that anyone can understand, that grabs attention and conveys a sense of immediacy.</li><li><strong>Fictionalize your story.</strong> Add fictionalized elements to your B2B marketing to grab your audience's attention, invite their curiosity, and inspire them to share their experience on social media. Chris shared an example of an event that incorporated a sort of online scavenger hunt. He says, “You just need to color outside the lines just a little bit to make it memorable.” And that the effect can be dramatic, especially in the B2B world. We see fictionalized elements in Speed as well, like when the bus has to cross an unfinished overpass, effectively leaping over a 50-foot gap in the road. Viewers are invited to suspend their disbelief to continue following the storyline. That fictional element is an invitation to go deeper into the story, deeper into engagement.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”When I think about blissful storytelling, it’s uncomplicated. Here is a movie done 30 years ago that is just pure bliss because you don't have to have a deep knowledge of X, Y, and Z. You are just there for the ride.” - Chris Hutchins</p><p>*”As B2B content creators and marketers, we often assume our audience has the same kind of comprehensive knowledge about our product, when in fact, we are the ones who are drinking the Kool-Aid. They need the simple story - at least in the beginning - to get the hook, and to get an understanding and become delighted and dazzled by our solution. Make it as plain spoken as possible. And make sure that our readers who are coming to our site, likely for the first time, find something that isn't overwhelming or over their heads.” - Chris Hutchins</p><p>*”The B2B equivalent of a blissful story is simply told and invites curiosity. It gets you from the beginning of the story to the end. And then keeps you engaged to investigate more.” - Chris Hutchins</p><p>*”When you are starting to get sick of your messaging, that means that it's probably starting to sink in with your audience.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*“Don't try to be every single thing. Just try to focus and say, ‘This is exactly the utility that you're gonna get from this thing.’ It's not gonna be 50 other things. It's just gonna be this one.” - Ian Faison</p><p>“The first 30 minutes of the movie is not set on a bus. And the last 30 minutes of the movie is not set on a bus. But all we remember when we talk about speed is the stuff on the bus. So what do you want your audience to remember? What do you want them to remember feeling?” - Chris Hutchins</p><p>“There are ways to enhance your narrative with fictional elements or fictionalized elements. You just need to color outside the lines just a little bit to make it memorable for them. It’s wildly, wildly experimental stuff in the world of B2B. But the path of creating these experiences, while it's a non-trivial thing to accomplish, it's absolutely possible and the promotional upside can be really dramatic.” - Chris Hutchins</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[1:20] Get to know Chris Hutchins, Director of Content Strategy at 6Sense</p><p>[2:41] Tell me more about Speed</p><p>[7:43] What makes Speed Remarkable?</p><p>[12:23] How to keep your brand message simple</p><p>[16:08] Ask: What do you want your audience to remember feeling about your brand?</p><p>[19:39] What is 6Sense?</p><p>[22:40] How does Chris use his experience as a narrative writer in his marketing work at 6Sense, and what can we learn from it?</p><p>[28:53] Why don't we use fiction more in B2B?</p><p>[35:28] How could you apply fiction to a B2B event?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.e6a9f705-9067-8786-a5b3-8b20d69590df?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch Speed</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jchutchinswriter/">Connect with Chris Hutchins on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://6sense.com/">Learn more about 6Sense</a></p><p><a href="https://jchutchins.net/">Check out Chris’ work and writing</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you sum up your marketing message in three words? (And would customers “get” it?)</p><p>Like, can you write it in plain language—just a few words that would make sense to your audience? Because if you - the B2B marketer - get it, your audience will too, right? Maybe not.</p><p>On this episode of Remarkable, we’re learning from the 90s classic movie Speed about keeping it simple. The movie can literally be summed up in three words: “Bomb on bus.” It’s a blissfully simple premise that rocked viewers, made Keanu Reeves and Sandra Bullock stars, and raked in $350 million dollars at the box office. </p><p>And we’re bringing on board Director of Content Strategy at 6Sense, Chris Hutchins, to talk storytelling, using character tropes, and fictionalizing your B2B marketing. So grab your popcorn and buckle up for the wild ride that is this latest, greatest episode of Remarkable as we talk about Speed (“Not the drug, but the movie” - Ian Faison).</p><p><strong>About the movie Speed</strong></p><p>Speed is a 1994 action movie starring Keanu Reeves as young police officer Jack Traven who has to keep a bomb from exploding on a city bus by staying above 50 mph. It also stars Sandra Bullock as the female counterpoint, Annie, who ironically had had her drivers’ license revoked for speeding but steps in when the bus driver is shot. And of course the villain is played by Dennis Hopper as Howard Payne, the madman who rigged the bus with the bomb in the first place. Speed was written by Graham Yost and directed by Jan de Bont.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Chris Hutchins</strong></p><p>Chris is a versatile, deadline-driven content director, editor and writer with corporate go-to-market, creative agency and professional journalism experience. He uses nimble workflows to produce world-class content at scale. His agency work has engaged millions of consumers worldwide.</p><p>Chris is currently the Director of Content Strategy for 6sense, an ABM platform. He also provides consulting services for SMBs that need help with content strategy, content production, branding and messaging.</p><p>In addition, he helps craft award-winning immersive marketing narratives, screenplays and novels for companies such as 20th Century Fox, A&E, Cinemax, Discovery, FOX Broadcasting, Infiniti, Macmillan Publishers and Ubisoft. He has been profiled by The New York Times, The Washington Post, NPR’s Weekend Edition, ABC Radio and the BBC.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Speed: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Keep the story simple.</strong> Use simple, straightforward language to explain what your marketing message is. Drop the jargon and boil down your message. Chris says that your audience needs a simple story, especially in the beginning, “to get the hook and begin to get an understanding of our content or product.” He says you don’t want prospective customers opening your site to find the content to be far over their heads. Speed does this with its simple premise that anyone can understand, that grabs attention and conveys a sense of immediacy.</li><li><strong>Fictionalize your story.</strong> Add fictionalized elements to your B2B marketing to grab your audience's attention, invite their curiosity, and inspire them to share their experience on social media. Chris shared an example of an event that incorporated a sort of online scavenger hunt. He says, “You just need to color outside the lines just a little bit to make it memorable.” And that the effect can be dramatic, especially in the B2B world. We see fictionalized elements in Speed as well, like when the bus has to cross an unfinished overpass, effectively leaping over a 50-foot gap in the road. Viewers are invited to suspend their disbelief to continue following the storyline. That fictional element is an invitation to go deeper into the story, deeper into engagement.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”When I think about blissful storytelling, it’s uncomplicated. Here is a movie done 30 years ago that is just pure bliss because you don't have to have a deep knowledge of X, Y, and Z. You are just there for the ride.” - Chris Hutchins</p><p>*”As B2B content creators and marketers, we often assume our audience has the same kind of comprehensive knowledge about our product, when in fact, we are the ones who are drinking the Kool-Aid. They need the simple story - at least in the beginning - to get the hook, and to get an understanding and become delighted and dazzled by our solution. Make it as plain spoken as possible. And make sure that our readers who are coming to our site, likely for the first time, find something that isn't overwhelming or over their heads.” - Chris Hutchins</p><p>*”The B2B equivalent of a blissful story is simply told and invites curiosity. It gets you from the beginning of the story to the end. And then keeps you engaged to investigate more.” - Chris Hutchins</p><p>*”When you are starting to get sick of your messaging, that means that it's probably starting to sink in with your audience.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*“Don't try to be every single thing. Just try to focus and say, ‘This is exactly the utility that you're gonna get from this thing.’ It's not gonna be 50 other things. It's just gonna be this one.” - Ian Faison</p><p>“The first 30 minutes of the movie is not set on a bus. And the last 30 minutes of the movie is not set on a bus. But all we remember when we talk about speed is the stuff on the bus. So what do you want your audience to remember? What do you want them to remember feeling?” - Chris Hutchins</p><p>“There are ways to enhance your narrative with fictional elements or fictionalized elements. You just need to color outside the lines just a little bit to make it memorable for them. It’s wildly, wildly experimental stuff in the world of B2B. But the path of creating these experiences, while it's a non-trivial thing to accomplish, it's absolutely possible and the promotional upside can be really dramatic.” - Chris Hutchins</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[1:20] Get to know Chris Hutchins, Director of Content Strategy at 6Sense</p><p>[2:41] Tell me more about Speed</p><p>[7:43] What makes Speed Remarkable?</p><p>[12:23] How to keep your brand message simple</p><p>[16:08] Ask: What do you want your audience to remember feeling about your brand?</p><p>[19:39] What is 6Sense?</p><p>[22:40] How does Chris use his experience as a narrative writer in his marketing work at 6Sense, and what can we learn from it?</p><p>[28:53] Why don't we use fiction more in B2B?</p><p>[35:28] How could you apply fiction to a B2B event?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.e6a9f705-9067-8786-a5b3-8b20d69590df?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch Speed</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jchutchinswriter/">Connect with Chris Hutchins on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://6sense.com/">Learn more about 6Sense</a></p><p><a href="https://jchutchins.net/">Check out Chris’ work and writing</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>Can you sum up your marketing message in three words? (And would customers “get” it?)

Like, can you write it in plain language—just a few words that would make sense to your audience? Because if you - the B2B marketer - get it, your audience will too, right? Maybe not.

On this episode of Remarkable, we’re learning from the 90s classic movie Speed about keeping it simple. The movie can literally be summed up in three words: “Bomb on bus.” It’s a blissfully simple premise that rocked viewers, made Keanu Reeves and Sandra Bullock stars, and raked in $350 million dollars at the box office. 

And we’re bringing on board Director of Content Strategy at 6Sense, Chris Hutchins, to talk storytelling, using character tropes, and fictionalizing your B2B marketing. So grab your popcorn and buckle up for the wild ride that is this latest, greatest episode of Remarkable as we talk about Speed (“Not the drug, but the movie” - Ian Faison).</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Can you sum up your marketing message in three words? (And would customers “get” it?)

Like, can you write it in plain language—just a few words that would make sense to your audience? Because if you - the B2B marketer - get it, your audience will too, right? Maybe not.

On this episode of Remarkable, we’re learning from the 90s classic movie Speed about keeping it simple. The movie can literally be summed up in three words: “Bomb on bus.” It’s a blissfully simple premise that rocked viewers, made Keanu Reeves and Sandra Bullock stars, and raked in $350 million dollars at the box office. 

And we’re bringing on board Director of Content Strategy at 6Sense, Chris Hutchins, to talk storytelling, using character tropes, and fictionalizing your B2B marketing. So grab your popcorn and buckle up for the wild ride that is this latest, greatest episode of Remarkable as we talk about Speed (“Not the drug, but the movie” - Ian Faison).</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>We’re willing to bet that you’re working on a new B2B campaign and require some new inspiration.</p><p>Because all B2B tech ads look and sound the same. They just melt into one shapeless, forgettable jumble of fingers typing and screens scrolling. But we see you plodding along in the B2B marketing marathon of sameness, and we’re throwing you some jet-boosted sneakers.</p><p>On this episode of Remarkable, we’re daring you to do the exact opposite of your competitors, to outsource the authenticity of your brand voice to your customers, and much, much more. And we’re doing that with the help of our special guest, Senior Director of Brand at Axonius, Kaite Rosa. </p><p>Together, we’re exploring the iconic and visionary 2007 Nike ad campaign featuring pro runner Lauren Fleshman. We look at how the ad deviated from the “tasteful nude” status quo of female athletes in ads, dismantled the objectification of women in sports, and promoted inclusivity by leveraging Lauren’s voice. And how you too can subvert expectations, make a statement, and do it authentically. So lace up your new sneaks and get ready to redefine B2B ads on the latest episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About Nike’s “Objectify Me” Campaign</strong></p><p>Nike’s “Objectify Me” campaign was a 2007 ad featuring pro runner Lauren Fleshman. It’s a 30-second black and white slow mo video of Lauren running toward the camera. And we hear Lauren’s voice. She says, “Look at me, study me, understand me. I’m not a small, pink version of a man. Don’t give me small, pink versions of a man’s running shoe. I’m Lauren Fleshman. I’m a runner, and I’m a woman.” Then it shows her running out of frame, and the Nike logo pops up on screen. It’s a really understated Nike ad that deviated FAR from its predecessors.</p><p>Lauren is a decorated distance runner. She won five NCAA championships at Stanford and two national championships as a professional athlete. She’s also a writer, having been featured in The New York Times and Runner’s World. Lauren is now Brand Strategy Advisor for fitness apparel company <a href="https://www.oiselle.com/">Oiselle</a>, and Co-Founder of natural food company <a href="https://pickybars.com/">Picky Bars</a>. Her book Good For a Girl: A Woman Running in a Man’s World came out in January 2023.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Kaite Rosa</strong></p><p>Kaite Rosa is Senior Director of Brand at Axonius, where she leads the team responsible for creating a $2.6 billion brand in less than five years. Cited as one of the fastest-growing cybersecurity brands in history, Axonius has been named one of the most valuable private cloud companies in the world by the Forbes Cloud 100, along with numerous industry accolades.</p><p>A life-long writer, she is passionate about using storytelling and creative concepts to define and build exceptional brand experiences. She has spent the bulk of her career at tech startups, and thrives on rapidly growing, fast-paced teams. Previously, she led brand and content at Payfactors, Virgin Pulse, and VentureFizz.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Nike’s “Objectify Me” Campaign: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Do the opposite of what’s expected. </strong>Look at what other companies in your space are doing in their campaigns and make a campaign based on the antithesis of that. Be the rebel in your industry. Subvert the expected. Kaite says so many brands feel like they have to join in on what’s popular or trending. She says, “There's a lot of, like, ‘Me too,’ right? Like, they're gonna copy it and try to make it their own, and look very similar. But what inspires me the most is looking at what your competitors are doing and doing the exact opposite.” It’s like how Lauren Fleshman was presented with a briefing inspired by Brandi Chastain’s “tasteful nude” ad, and advocated instead to be in her athletic gear and to write the ad copy herself. She turned the copy on its head, saying that if she was going to be objectified, it would be to design running gear specific to her physiology. And the campaign became iconic.</li><li><strong>Outsource authenticity to your customers. </strong>Make your customer’s voice your brand voice. Ian says marketers always want to control the narrative, but sometimes you need to let your customers take the wheel. Because he says that when you ask customers to talk about your brand in their own words, “They come up with something absolutely brilliant that you could never have written.” And how could that not be authentic? Nike was able to outsource the authenticity piece of Lauren’s ad because Lauren wrote the copy herself. For sure, there was a layer of brand approval, but the words are Lauren’s. So outsource the authenticity piece of your ad copy to customers, and it will resonate.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Whether you're working in a bootstrapped company or publicly funded company. any budget can accommodate your customer voice.” - Kaite Rosa</p><p>*”If you're doing a high-level brand campaign, the approach shouldn't be, ‘Let's sell you all the features and benefits.’ It should be, ‘Let's get you in the store. Let's get you remembering who we are so that the next time you need those new sneakers or you need a B2B SaaS solution,  you remember the ad.’” - Kaite Rosa</p><p>*”What is memorable and where storytelling really comes alive is when you look at what's out there and say, ‘We're gonna do something that is disruptive, that is different. And I think that you can do that on any budget.” - Kaite Rosa</p><p>*“People latch on to the authenticity of brands. That's what drives you emotionally to a brand, is that it feels authentic. It resonates with you. And I think living and breathing your values in everything you do, if you're at a company with a culture that encourages that, that ties your values into everything you do, it comes naturally. Good marketing and good brands tap into those values.” - Kaite Rosa</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[1:37] Get to know Kaite Rosa, Senior Director of Brand at Axonius</p><p>[2:14] Tell me more about Nike’s “Objectify Me” campaign</p><p>[8:04] About athletic advertising before Lauren Fleshman’s campaign</p><p>[12:23] About the timelessness of the “Objectify Me” ad</p><p>[14:23] Why challenging the status quo is important</p><p>[23:27] How to ground your message in values</p><p>[24:53] What does Axonius do?</p><p>[25:42] What’s Axonius’ brand strategy?</p><p>[26:41] How does Kaite think about the ROI of content marketing?</p><p>[27:14] Learn more about Axonius’ “Controlling Complexity” campaign with gymnast Simone Biles</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4scMBc1PK4">See Nike’s Objectify Me ad with Lauren Fleshman</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaiterosa/">Connect with Kaite Rosa on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.axonius.com/">Learn more about Axonius</a></p><p><a href="https://www.axonius.com/plus/controlling-complexity/simone-biles">Check out the Axonius campaign with Simone Biles</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re willing to bet that you’re working on a new B2B campaign and require some new inspiration.</p><p>Because all B2B tech ads look and sound the same. They just melt into one shapeless, forgettable jumble of fingers typing and screens scrolling. But we see you plodding along in the B2B marketing marathon of sameness, and we’re throwing you some jet-boosted sneakers.</p><p>On this episode of Remarkable, we’re daring you to do the exact opposite of your competitors, to outsource the authenticity of your brand voice to your customers, and much, much more. And we’re doing that with the help of our special guest, Senior Director of Brand at Axonius, Kaite Rosa. </p><p>Together, we’re exploring the iconic and visionary 2007 Nike ad campaign featuring pro runner Lauren Fleshman. We look at how the ad deviated from the “tasteful nude” status quo of female athletes in ads, dismantled the objectification of women in sports, and promoted inclusivity by leveraging Lauren’s voice. And how you too can subvert expectations, make a statement, and do it authentically. So lace up your new sneaks and get ready to redefine B2B ads on the latest episode of Remarkable.</p><p><strong>About Nike’s “Objectify Me” Campaign</strong></p><p>Nike’s “Objectify Me” campaign was a 2007 ad featuring pro runner Lauren Fleshman. It’s a 30-second black and white slow mo video of Lauren running toward the camera. And we hear Lauren’s voice. She says, “Look at me, study me, understand me. I’m not a small, pink version of a man. Don’t give me small, pink versions of a man’s running shoe. I’m Lauren Fleshman. I’m a runner, and I’m a woman.” Then it shows her running out of frame, and the Nike logo pops up on screen. It’s a really understated Nike ad that deviated FAR from its predecessors.</p><p>Lauren is a decorated distance runner. She won five NCAA championships at Stanford and two national championships as a professional athlete. She’s also a writer, having been featured in The New York Times and Runner’s World. Lauren is now Brand Strategy Advisor for fitness apparel company <a href="https://www.oiselle.com/">Oiselle</a>, and Co-Founder of natural food company <a href="https://pickybars.com/">Picky Bars</a>. Her book Good For a Girl: A Woman Running in a Man’s World came out in January 2023.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Kaite Rosa</strong></p><p>Kaite Rosa is Senior Director of Brand at Axonius, where she leads the team responsible for creating a $2.6 billion brand in less than five years. 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She says, “There's a lot of, like, ‘Me too,’ right? Like, they're gonna copy it and try to make it their own, and look very similar. But what inspires me the most is looking at what your competitors are doing and doing the exact opposite.” It’s like how Lauren Fleshman was presented with a briefing inspired by Brandi Chastain’s “tasteful nude” ad, and advocated instead to be in her athletic gear and to write the ad copy herself. She turned the copy on its head, saying that if she was going to be objectified, it would be to design running gear specific to her physiology. And the campaign became iconic.</li><li><strong>Outsource authenticity to your customers. </strong>Make your customer’s voice your brand voice. Ian says marketers always want to control the narrative, but sometimes you need to let your customers take the wheel. Because he says that when you ask customers to talk about your brand in their own words, “They come up with something absolutely brilliant that you could never have written.” And how could that not be authentic? Nike was able to outsource the authenticity piece of Lauren’s ad because Lauren wrote the copy herself. For sure, there was a layer of brand approval, but the words are Lauren’s. So outsource the authenticity piece of your ad copy to customers, and it will resonate.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Whether you're working in a bootstrapped company or publicly funded company. any budget can accommodate your customer voice.” - Kaite Rosa</p><p>*”If you're doing a high-level brand campaign, the approach shouldn't be, ‘Let's sell you all the features and benefits.’ It should be, ‘Let's get you in the store. Let's get you remembering who we are so that the next time you need those new sneakers or you need a B2B SaaS solution,  you remember the ad.’” - Kaite Rosa</p><p>*”What is memorable and where storytelling really comes alive is when you look at what's out there and say, ‘We're gonna do something that is disruptive, that is different. And I think that you can do that on any budget.” - Kaite Rosa</p><p>*“People latch on to the authenticity of brands. That's what drives you emotionally to a brand, is that it feels authentic. It resonates with you. And I think living and breathing your values in everything you do, if you're at a company with a culture that encourages that, that ties your values into everything you do, it comes naturally. Good marketing and good brands tap into those values.” - Kaite Rosa</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[1:37] Get to know Kaite Rosa, Senior Director of Brand at Axonius</p><p>[2:14] Tell me more about Nike’s “Objectify Me” campaign</p><p>[8:04] About athletic advertising before Lauren Fleshman’s campaign</p><p>[12:23] About the timelessness of the “Objectify Me” ad</p><p>[14:23] Why challenging the status quo is important</p><p>[23:27] How to ground your message in values</p><p>[24:53] What does Axonius do?</p><p>[25:42] What’s Axonius’ brand strategy?</p><p>[26:41] How does Kaite think about the ROI of content marketing?</p><p>[27:14] Learn more about Axonius’ “Controlling Complexity” campaign with gymnast Simone Biles</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4scMBc1PK4">See Nike’s Objectify Me ad with Lauren Fleshman</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaiterosa/">Connect with Kaite Rosa on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.axonius.com/">Learn more about Axonius</a></p><p><a href="https://www.axonius.com/plus/controlling-complexity/simone-biles">Check out the Axonius campaign with Simone Biles</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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Because all B2B tech ads look and sound the same. They just melt into one shapeless, forgettable jumble of fingers typing, mouses clicking and screens scrolling. But we see you plodding along in the B2B marketing marathon of sameness, and we’re throwing you some jet-boosted sneakers. That’s right - you’re going pro. 

On this episode of Remarkable, we’re daring you to do the exact opposite of your competitors, to outsource the authenticity of your brand voice to your customers, and much, much more. And we’re doing that with the help of our special guest, Senior Director of Brand at Axonius, Kaite Rosa. 

Together, we’re exploring the iconic and visionary 2007 Nike ad campaign featuring pro runner Lauren Fleshman. We look at how the ad deviated from the “tasteful nude” status quo of female athletes in ads, dismantled the objectification of women in sports, and promoted inclusivity by leveraging Lauren’s voice. And how you too can subvert expectations, make a statement, and do it authentically. So lace up your new sneaks and get ready to redefine B2B ads on the latest episode of Remarkable.</itunes:summary>
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Because all B2B tech ads look and sound the same. They just melt into one shapeless, forgettable jumble of fingers typing, mouses clicking and screens scrolling. But we see you plodding along in the B2B marketing marathon of sameness, and we’re throwing you some jet-boosted sneakers. That’s right - you’re going pro. 

On this episode of Remarkable, we’re daring you to do the exact opposite of your competitors, to outsource the authenticity of your brand voice to your customers, and much, much more. And we’re doing that with the help of our special guest, Senior Director of Brand at Axonius, Kaite Rosa. 

Together, we’re exploring the iconic and visionary 2007 Nike ad campaign featuring pro runner Lauren Fleshman. We look at how the ad deviated from the “tasteful nude” status quo of female athletes in ads, dismantled the objectification of women in sports, and promoted inclusivity by leveraging Lauren’s voice. And how you too can subvert expectations, make a statement, and do it authentically. So lace up your new sneaks and get ready to redefine B2B ads on the latest episode of Remarkable.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Love Island: B2B Marketing Lessons from the UK Hit Series with Kailey Raymond, Director of Enterprise Marketing at Segment</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Marketing is generally a one-way conversation. You tell your audience what to buy, period, end of story. But what if we could change that dynamic and actually give our audience some control over our campaigns?</p><p>You might argue that you already listen to the voice of the customer through surveys and testimonials. But have you ever really used their feedback to make a game-changing decision in your business? Well, today's the day we flip the script and let the audience take charge.</p><p>On this episode of Remarkable, we’re soaking up marketing lessons from the UK hit series Love Island. Because Love Island is a show that relies on its audience to make those critical decisions, audience members can literally decide whether an islander will stay or go. This might be why the show earned itself a dedicated following. Without that audience participation, it wouldn’t be the Love Island we know and…well, love. </p><p>So tune in as we unpack the marketing gold that is Love Island. We'll show you how to hook your audience on your content by tapping into the power of their input. Get ready to learn how to make your customers an integral part of your decision-making process and create an unbreakable connection with them. It's time to let your audience take control and revolutionize your marketing approach.</p><p><strong>About Love Island</strong></p><p>Love Island is a reality tv/dating game show where beautiful single people are invited to stay in a tropical villa together in search of love. Drama unfolds when new islanders arrive, they’re given challenges, or contestants fail to match up and get kicked off the island. One couple will win a cash prize. ($100,000) They often also leave with sponsor and branding deals, and lots of new Instagram followers.</p><p>It was originally a popular series in the UK created by ITV Studios (2005 and 2006 was Celebrity Love Island, then returned in 2015) The U.S. started its own version in 2019. Now 22 versions of Love Island exist worldwide.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Kailey Raymond</strong></p><p>Kailey Raymond is Director of Enterprise Marketing at Segment. There, she is building a full-funnel Enterprise Marketing motion including ABM, thought leadership, upsell/cross-sell and outbound programs. Prior to Segment, Kailey started the Customer Marketing team at AlphaSense, built local communities and revenue at Hired in both Sales and Field Marketing roles and grew a global community of career transitioners and partners as the second employee of a STEM bootcamp.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Love Island: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Give your audience agency in your brand. </strong>Ask for their feedback and incorporate it into your marketing. By showing them you’re listening <i>and</i> taking action based on their feedback, you show that you care about them. It creates a mutually beneficial relationship and forms a connection. Love Island actually has its own app. And people watching can vote for their favorite couples, as well as decide on who stays on the island and who gets kicked off. So every viewer has some power over the fate of each islander, so much so that the show becomes quite addictive. Ian says, “Giving the audience agency is ridiculously powerful.” Get your audience involved in the decision making and they’ll be hooked on your marketing.</li><li><strong>Engage with your audience in real time.</strong> The goal is to respond and interact with your audience in as quick of a timeline as possible. So build the muscle of quick response times on your marketing team. And leverage AI to speed up that process. Being able to interact with your audience provides a personalized, human experience. On Love Island, producers are sourcing viewer tweets in real time and showing them on screen to add dimension to the show. So as a viewer, the chance that your tweet could be part of the show makes your participation all the more appealing.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”The show requires engagement, it requires the audience to participate, or it would destroy the fabric of the show. Like, I can make a difference in getting this person voted off. Giving the audience agency is ridiculously powerful.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”The real-time audience interaction that they've embedded within the show allows you to feel like you're a part of their journey. It makes you want to watch. Every episode you have vested interest because you could be helpful getting somebody you don't like watching booted off the island or giving them the chance to win a hundred thousand pounds. So I think that they created this special sauce with being able to bring in multiple different channels with social, going along with video at the exact same time, and getting the audience interaction live.” - Kailey Raymond</p><p>*”You absolutely have to have an on-demand component. You have to have a live component to some of your stuff. But if you're not creating on-demand content that's easily streamable, accessible, multi-platform, you are missing out on a massive demographic.” - Ian Faison</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[1:28] Get to know Kailey Raymond, Global Executive Content Marketing Lead at VMware</p><p>[5:00] Tell me more about Love Island</p><p>[6:44] What’s the story behind how Love Island was made?</p><p>[10:27] How did Love Island rise above the noise of other reality dating shows?</p><p>[16:29] How can you leverage key storylines to create interest for your audience?</p><p>[18:56] What marketing lessons can we glean from Love Island?</p><p>[25:21] What does Love Island teach us about responding in real time?</p><p>[30:12] What we can learn from viewer statistics</p><p>[33:58] How does Love Island use partner marketing?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.hulu.com/series/e3b93210-7e03-471f-8270-0e17161809a8">Watch Love Island</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaileyraymond/">Connect with Kailey on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://segment.com/">Learn more about Segment</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marketing is generally a one-way conversation. You tell your audience what to buy, period, end of story. But what if we could change that dynamic and actually give our audience some control over our campaigns?</p><p>You might argue that you already listen to the voice of the customer through surveys and testimonials. But have you ever really used their feedback to make a game-changing decision in your business? Well, today's the day we flip the script and let the audience take charge.</p><p>On this episode of Remarkable, we’re soaking up marketing lessons from the UK hit series Love Island. Because Love Island is a show that relies on its audience to make those critical decisions, audience members can literally decide whether an islander will stay or go. This might be why the show earned itself a dedicated following. Without that audience participation, it wouldn’t be the Love Island we know and…well, love. </p><p>So tune in as we unpack the marketing gold that is Love Island. We'll show you how to hook your audience on your content by tapping into the power of their input. Get ready to learn how to make your customers an integral part of your decision-making process and create an unbreakable connection with them. It's time to let your audience take control and revolutionize your marketing approach.</p><p><strong>About Love Island</strong></p><p>Love Island is a reality tv/dating game show where beautiful single people are invited to stay in a tropical villa together in search of love. Drama unfolds when new islanders arrive, they’re given challenges, or contestants fail to match up and get kicked off the island. One couple will win a cash prize. ($100,000) They often also leave with sponsor and branding deals, and lots of new Instagram followers.</p><p>It was originally a popular series in the UK created by ITV Studios (2005 and 2006 was Celebrity Love Island, then returned in 2015) The U.S. started its own version in 2019. Now 22 versions of Love Island exist worldwide.</p><p><strong>About our guest, Kailey Raymond</strong></p><p>Kailey Raymond is Director of Enterprise Marketing at Segment. There, she is building a full-funnel Enterprise Marketing motion including ABM, thought leadership, upsell/cross-sell and outbound programs. Prior to Segment, Kailey started the Customer Marketing team at AlphaSense, built local communities and revenue at Hired in both Sales and Field Marketing roles and grew a global community of career transitioners and partners as the second employee of a STEM bootcamp.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Love Island: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Give your audience agency in your brand. </strong>Ask for their feedback and incorporate it into your marketing. By showing them you’re listening <i>and</i> taking action based on their feedback, you show that you care about them. It creates a mutually beneficial relationship and forms a connection. Love Island actually has its own app. And people watching can vote for their favorite couples, as well as decide on who stays on the island and who gets kicked off. So every viewer has some power over the fate of each islander, so much so that the show becomes quite addictive. Ian says, “Giving the audience agency is ridiculously powerful.” Get your audience involved in the decision making and they’ll be hooked on your marketing.</li><li><strong>Engage with your audience in real time.</strong> The goal is to respond and interact with your audience in as quick of a timeline as possible. So build the muscle of quick response times on your marketing team. And leverage AI to speed up that process. Being able to interact with your audience provides a personalized, human experience. On Love Island, producers are sourcing viewer tweets in real time and showing them on screen to add dimension to the show. So as a viewer, the chance that your tweet could be part of the show makes your participation all the more appealing.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”The show requires engagement, it requires the audience to participate, or it would destroy the fabric of the show. Like, I can make a difference in getting this person voted off. Giving the audience agency is ridiculously powerful.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”The real-time audience interaction that they've embedded within the show allows you to feel like you're a part of their journey. It makes you want to watch. Every episode you have vested interest because you could be helpful getting somebody you don't like watching booted off the island or giving them the chance to win a hundred thousand pounds. So I think that they created this special sauce with being able to bring in multiple different channels with social, going along with video at the exact same time, and getting the audience interaction live.” - Kailey Raymond</p><p>*”You absolutely have to have an on-demand component. You have to have a live component to some of your stuff. But if you're not creating on-demand content that's easily streamable, accessible, multi-platform, you are missing out on a massive demographic.” - Ian Faison</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[1:28] Get to know Kailey Raymond, Global Executive Content Marketing Lead at VMware</p><p>[5:00] Tell me more about Love Island</p><p>[6:44] What’s the story behind how Love Island was made?</p><p>[10:27] How did Love Island rise above the noise of other reality dating shows?</p><p>[16:29] How can you leverage key storylines to create interest for your audience?</p><p>[18:56] What marketing lessons can we glean from Love Island?</p><p>[25:21] What does Love Island teach us about responding in real time?</p><p>[30:12] What we can learn from viewer statistics</p><p>[33:58] How does Love Island use partner marketing?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.hulu.com/series/e3b93210-7e03-471f-8270-0e17161809a8">Watch Love Island</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaileyraymond/">Connect with Kailey on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://segment.com/">Learn more about Segment</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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On this episode of Remarkable, we’re soaking up marketing lessons from the UK hit series Love Island. Because Love Island is a show that relies on its audience to make those critical decisions, audience members can literally decide whether an islander will stay or go. This might be why the show earned itself a dedicated following. Without that audience participation, it wouldn’t be the Love Island we know and…well, love. 

So tune in as we unpack the marketing gold that is Love Island. We&apos;ll show you how to hook your audience on your content by tapping into the power of their input. Get ready to learn how to make your customers an integral part of your decision-making process and create an unbreakable connection with them. It&apos;s time to let your audience take control and revolutionize your marketing approach.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2023 09:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Ian Faison, Meredith Gooderham, Scott Goodrich)</author>
      <link>https://www.caspianstudios.com/remarkable</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Remarkable team is hard at work on Season 3. And hold on tight because it’s gonna be a good one. This upcoming season, we’re taking B2B marketing lessons from the likes of Mad Men, Survivor, the 90s Keanu Reeves classic, Speed, and much, much more. And we’re doing it all with the help of new guests every episode! We’ll be speaking with marketers from companies like G2, ClickUp, ActiveCampaign and ZoomInfo. And through their expert lens, we’re giving you - the B2B marketer - tips, tricks and tools to use in your own campaigns. So keep an eye on your podcast platform of choice for brand new episodes of Remarkable coming your way very soon.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Imagine your marketing team working on a project with clear guidelines. They know what their end goal is. Everyone’s executing their role, communicating seamlessly, and meeting deadlines. The result? Marketing perfection. This could be you, after you listen to this.</p><p>We’ve all experienced the frustration of working on a project where expectations and roles aren’t clear. Some people put in more effort than others, work is sloppy, deadlines are missed. There’s an imbalance that makes getting any work done nearly impossible.</p><p>But there’s a magic that happens when you foster a culture of communication, trust, and cohesion; working together as one. And through this culture, you can power amazing results.</p><p>On this episode of Remarkable, we’re getting in the groove with the help of Webby Honoree and Global Executive Content Marketing Lead at VMware, Yadin Porter de León. Together, we’re exploring how to foster internal cohesion for B2B marketing success and taking lessons from The Mandalorian. So you can take your marketing team by the hands and say, ‘This is the way.”</p><p><strong>About The Mandalorian</strong></p><p>The Mandalorian is a Star Wars TV series that launched in 2019. It’s created and executive produced by Jon Favreau, who we know on Remarkable for also directing and executive producing Iron Man. Jon Favreau partnered with Lucas Film and Disney for the production of the series. It’s considered a space western and is the first live action TV series in the franchise. It stars Pedro Pascal as the main character, Din Djarin. And the show premiered on Disney+ on November 12, 2019. It’s now in its third season with a fourth in development.</p><p>The Mandalorian takes place after The Return of the Jedi and the fall of the Galactic Empire. Din Djarin is a lone bounty hunter who’s hired by Imperial Forces to go get the child Grogu aka Baby Yoda. Instead, Din Djarin ends up going on the run to protect Grogu and reunite Grogu with his kind.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From The Mandalorian: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Align across the C-suite about your strategic go-to-market strategy.</strong> Once leadership agrees on the strategy, messaging, channels, and target customers, they can direct the rest of the company. But Yadin says it’s not just about creating a doc or a presentation. It’s about building relationships, gaining trust, and getting buy-in from people. He says, “That agreement takes a lot of work. It takes a lot of alignment across so many different stakeholders and interests. And then once you have that, you have everyone who's bought into it able to move in the same direction.”</li><li><strong>Give your marketing team guardrails and the end goal, and then let them decide how they get to the finished product.</strong> You’ve got a brilliant team of marketers at your service, so trust their ingenuity. Give them the autonomy to use their creativity and problem solving skills to achieve the end result you’re looking for. Ian says, “The idea of ‘This is the way,’ this is our marketing strategy, allows people to be very creative within those left and right limits." And Yadin adds, "Don't tell them how to do it, but tell them what the vision and the outcome is and then see what amazing things they create.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”The mantra of, ‘This is the way’ demonstrates the way in which multiple different people can follow the same path and produce great results, and create great value when they don't have to be born in the same area or be brought up in the same way.” - Yadin Porter de Léon</p><p>“That mantra applied to B2B marketing can be extremely powerful if you have messaging and branding consistency. Where you go to market in the same way across all of your geos, across all your departments, across all of your business units instead of having all these weird, crazy, fragmented things that may seem cool at the time, but not actually showing up in the market in a way that will actually tell a consistent story.” - Yadin Porter de Léon</p><p>“There are bad things too. Like, you can get stuck, lost in cookie pulling and retargeting and brand ads and all the things we've always done the same way. And so ‘This is the way’ means basically, you know, get on board, or else,” - Yadin Porter de Léon</p><p>*”Create a vision and then inspire those people who want to be creative to be creative, because now they have the guardrails. Don't tell them how to do it, but tell them what the vision and the outcome is and then see what amazing things they create.” - Yadin Porter de Léon</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[1:40] Get to know Yadin Porter de Léon, Global Executive Content Marketing Lead at VMware</p><p>[2:19] Tell me more about The Mandalorian</p><p>[8:52] What’s the story behind how The Mandalorian was made?</p><p>[12:11] What are the core truths behind the Mandalorian?</p><p>[14:58] How can “This is the way” be applied to B2B marketing?</p><p>[17:52] Learn more about OneVMware</p><p>[18:18] What role does leadership play in establishing internal alignment</p><p>[19:44] Tell me more about the podcast CIO Exchange </p><p>[28:52] How to bring your brand to market in a way that will resonate with your audience</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.disneyplus.com/welcome/the-mandalorian-season-3?cid=DSS-Search-Google-71700000059616279-&s_kwcid=AL!8468!3!649147814760!e!!g!!stream%20the%20mandalorian&gclid=CjwKCAjw3ueiBhBmEiwA4BhspPw0Nz7YNkopcWH56uDUZHrVQwk5_73cW7ITmdNoCTJ5EOD8RTy6eRoCXssQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds">Watch “The Mandalorian”</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/porterdeleon/">Connect with Yadin on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.vmware.com/">Learn more about VMware</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2023 22:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Ian Faison, Colin Stamps, Yadin Porter de Leon, Meredith Gooderham, Scott Goodrich)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine your marketing team working on a project with clear guidelines. They know what their end goal is. Everyone’s executing their role, communicating seamlessly, and meeting deadlines. The result? Marketing perfection. This could be you, after you listen to this.</p><p>We’ve all experienced the frustration of working on a project where expectations and roles aren’t clear. Some people put in more effort than others, work is sloppy, deadlines are missed. There’s an imbalance that makes getting any work done nearly impossible.</p><p>But there’s a magic that happens when you foster a culture of communication, trust, and cohesion; working together as one. And through this culture, you can power amazing results.</p><p>On this episode of Remarkable, we’re getting in the groove with the help of Webby Honoree and Global Executive Content Marketing Lead at VMware, Yadin Porter de León. Together, we’re exploring how to foster internal cohesion for B2B marketing success and taking lessons from The Mandalorian. So you can take your marketing team by the hands and say, ‘This is the way.”</p><p><strong>About The Mandalorian</strong></p><p>The Mandalorian is a Star Wars TV series that launched in 2019. It’s created and executive produced by Jon Favreau, who we know on Remarkable for also directing and executive producing Iron Man. Jon Favreau partnered with Lucas Film and Disney for the production of the series. It’s considered a space western and is the first live action TV series in the franchise. It stars Pedro Pascal as the main character, Din Djarin. And the show premiered on Disney+ on November 12, 2019. It’s now in its third season with a fourth in development.</p><p>The Mandalorian takes place after The Return of the Jedi and the fall of the Galactic Empire. Din Djarin is a lone bounty hunter who’s hired by Imperial Forces to go get the child Grogu aka Baby Yoda. Instead, Din Djarin ends up going on the run to protect Grogu and reunite Grogu with his kind.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From The Mandalorian: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Align across the C-suite about your strategic go-to-market strategy.</strong> Once leadership agrees on the strategy, messaging, channels, and target customers, they can direct the rest of the company. But Yadin says it’s not just about creating a doc or a presentation. It’s about building relationships, gaining trust, and getting buy-in from people. He says, “That agreement takes a lot of work. It takes a lot of alignment across so many different stakeholders and interests. And then once you have that, you have everyone who's bought into it able to move in the same direction.”</li><li><strong>Give your marketing team guardrails and the end goal, and then let them decide how they get to the finished product.</strong> You’ve got a brilliant team of marketers at your service, so trust their ingenuity. Give them the autonomy to use their creativity and problem solving skills to achieve the end result you’re looking for. Ian says, “The idea of ‘This is the way,’ this is our marketing strategy, allows people to be very creative within those left and right limits." And Yadin adds, "Don't tell them how to do it, but tell them what the vision and the outcome is and then see what amazing things they create.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”The mantra of, ‘This is the way’ demonstrates the way in which multiple different people can follow the same path and produce great results, and create great value when they don't have to be born in the same area or be brought up in the same way.” - Yadin Porter de Léon</p><p>“That mantra applied to B2B marketing can be extremely powerful if you have messaging and branding consistency. Where you go to market in the same way across all of your geos, across all your departments, across all of your business units instead of having all these weird, crazy, fragmented things that may seem cool at the time, but not actually showing up in the market in a way that will actually tell a consistent story.” - Yadin Porter de Léon</p><p>“There are bad things too. Like, you can get stuck, lost in cookie pulling and retargeting and brand ads and all the things we've always done the same way. And so ‘This is the way’ means basically, you know, get on board, or else,” - Yadin Porter de Léon</p><p>*”Create a vision and then inspire those people who want to be creative to be creative, because now they have the guardrails. Don't tell them how to do it, but tell them what the vision and the outcome is and then see what amazing things they create.” - Yadin Porter de Léon</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[1:40] Get to know Yadin Porter de Léon, Global Executive Content Marketing Lead at VMware</p><p>[2:19] Tell me more about The Mandalorian</p><p>[8:52] What’s the story behind how The Mandalorian was made?</p><p>[12:11] What are the core truths behind the Mandalorian?</p><p>[14:58] How can “This is the way” be applied to B2B marketing?</p><p>[17:52] Learn more about OneVMware</p><p>[18:18] What role does leadership play in establishing internal alignment</p><p>[19:44] Tell me more about the podcast CIO Exchange </p><p>[28:52] How to bring your brand to market in a way that will resonate with your audience</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.disneyplus.com/welcome/the-mandalorian-season-3?cid=DSS-Search-Google-71700000059616279-&s_kwcid=AL!8468!3!649147814760!e!!g!!stream%20the%20mandalorian&gclid=CjwKCAjw3ueiBhBmEiwA4BhspPw0Nz7YNkopcWH56uDUZHrVQwk5_73cW7ITmdNoCTJ5EOD8RTy6eRoCXssQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds">Watch “The Mandalorian”</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/porterdeleon/">Connect with Yadin on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.vmware.com/">Learn more about VMware</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>Imagine your marketing team working on a project with clear guidelines. They know what their end goal is. Everyone’s executing their role, communicating seamlessly, and meeting deadlines. The result? Marketing perfection. This could be you, after you listen to this.

We’ve all experienced the frustration of working on a project where expectations and roles aren’t clear. Some people put in more effort than others, work is sloppy, deadlines are missed. There’s an imbalance that makes getting any work done nearly impossible.

But there’s a magic that happens when you foster a culture of communication, trust, and cohesion; working together as one. And through this culture, you can power amazing results.

On this episode of Remarkable, we’re getting in the groove with the help of Webby Honoree and Global Executive Content Marketing Lead at VMware, Yadin Porter de León. Together, we’re exploring how to foster internal cohesion for B2B marketing success and taking lessons from The Mandalorian. So you can take your marketing team by the hands and say, ‘This is the way.”</itunes:summary>
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We’ve all experienced the frustration of working on a project where expectations and roles aren’t clear. Some people put in more effort than others, work is sloppy, deadlines are missed. There’s an imbalance that makes getting any work done nearly impossible.

But there’s a magic that happens when you foster a culture of communication, trust, and cohesion; working together as one. And through this culture, you can power amazing results.

On this episode of Remarkable, we’re getting in the groove with the help of Webby Honoree and Global Executive Content Marketing Lead at VMware, Yadin Porter de León. Together, we’re exploring how to foster internal cohesion for B2B marketing success and taking lessons from The Mandalorian. So you can take your marketing team by the hands and say, ‘This is the way.”</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Vrbo: How to Position Your Brand To Advertise What Your Competitors Can&apos;t</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>If you feel like you’re struggling to differentiate your company from a sea saturated with similar brands, this is the episode for you. </p><p>You want to market your brand to make it pop, yet it can feel overwhelming trying to nail down a winning idea for your next campaign. That’s because out of 100 factors, you might have 99 in common with your competitors. But that one factor that your competitors don't have, THAT is the one you market. </p><p>On this episode of Remarkable, we’re relaxing to the soft, soothing music of the Vrbo ad campaign, “Only Your People.” We’re chatting about how the campaign helped Vrbo, a brand that’s been around for nearly three decades, to grab audience attention as a major competitor to Airbnb. </p><p>Vrbo repositioned itself through a single message: only your people will be at the rental. It’s responding to a pain point specific to Airbnb customers who don’t want to share a space with the host or other guests. And the campaign is getting talked about in marketing circles everywhere. So follow along as we talk about how you, too, can position your brand as a major name in your industry. </p><p><strong>About Corporate Bro</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.vrbo.com/">Vrbo</a> is a vacation rental company similar to Airbnb. So homeowners list their properties directly on the Vrbo site; beach houses, mountain cabins, treehouses, villas, boats, and more.</p><p>It <a href="https://www.lodgify.com/guides/airbnb-competitors/">started</a> in 1995 as an independent company acquired by HomeAway in 2006, and then again in 2015 by Expedia Group.</p><p>The name V-R-B-O is an acronym for Vacation Rentals by Owner.</p><p>VRBO is <a href="https://www.lodgify.com/guides/airbnb-competitors/">Airbnb's biggest competitor </a>with over 2 million listings and vacation rentals in more than 190 countries. Their website sees over 15.9 million unique visitors per month, and listings are posted on the Expedia site, which sees 730 million unique visitors per month.</p><p>The big difference between Vrbo and Airbnb is that Vrbo only offers entire properties for rent. So renters have the whole place to themselves, whereas on Airbnb, renters have the option of house shares. This means they may be renting a room within a house and the owner is there at the same time. Because of this, Vrbo tends to attract larger, higher-end property rentals and cater to groups of people, whether whole families or friends, or simply folks with higher budgets.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Vrbo: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Study your buyers to find their pain points and create messaging for each of them.</strong> This shows your audience that you’re listening to them and that their opinions matter. And it helps build trust! An example of this is Wix, whose ad, “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXQ7qgvT3_w">The Power of Wix Infrastructure</a>,” reassures users their websites are backed by four data centers and tens of thousands of servers. In other words, there’s basically no way their site could go down. This is different from other hosting providers, where a site might run on one dedicated server, increasing the risk of the site crashing. They also have an ad called “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6uoq-8jOl0">Security’s On Us</a>,” highlighting how they offer enterprise-grade security that’s fully managed for users. It has lots of bells and whistles to prevent hackers and bugs from gaining access to the site. So users won’t have to worry about either hackers or their site crashing, which may happen with other hosting sites.</li><li><strong>Identify what your differentiating feature is from your competitors and create a campaign around it.</strong> Run it as a single-feature ad on a key position. The simple, straight-forward messaging and clear benefit of your brand over others will resonate with your target audience. Ian says, “the point of positioning is to focus on the one thing that your competitor can't. A great positioning campaign like this allows there to be no wiggle room at all. You cannot get around this. If [customers] believe that this one feature is so important, then you're guaranteed to earn their business.” CRM Platform <a href="https://monday.com/lp/crm?cq_src=google_ads&cq_cmp=15060021489&cq_term=easiest%20crm%20to%20use&cq_plac=&cq_net=g&cq_plt=gp&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=adwordssearch&utm_campaign=us-en-prm-workos-crm-crm_lt-h-search-desktop-core-aw&utm_keyword=easiest%20crm%20to%20use&utm_match_type=e&cluster=crm&subcluster=health_care&ati=&utm_adgroup=easiest%20crm&utm_banner=655346187497&gad=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwjMiiBhA4EiwAZe6jQ9xgZLHdwKC7yn_KgS79jS41G6gC1ZJa0DFaZ9A4yB-q7F6SbQnKVxoCJgMQAvD_BwE">Monday.com</a> ran a campaign that’s a great example of this. They have an ad that shows up in Google search results that says, “CRM Without the Frustration - No-Code CRM Software.” The ad acknowledges and validates a pain point of other CRM platforms - that they are hard to learn how to use - and offers a solution.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Vrbo is just an overall, generally more predictable experience. You know what you're going to get. You don't know what you're going to get with Airbnb. And for some people, that is the delight of going to Airbnb, it’s like there is a little bit of serendipity there. Whereas for Vrbo, nope, you're not paying for serendipity.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*“It's really understanding the pain points as well. You really have to study the buyer’s thought process to understand the super common pain points.” - Colin Stamps</p><p>*”[Monday.com] took all the pain points and they were like, ‘Let's create messaging for each of these to stand out from the other search results that are currently showing up for our competitors.’” - Anagha Das</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[1:29] Tell me more about Vrbo</p><p>[3:51] About the "Only Your People" ad campaign</p><p>[6:33] How Vrbo differentiates itself from Airbnb with new ad campaign</p><p>[11:48] The importance of messaging to make your brand stand out from competitors</p><p>[14:42] How to identify customer pinpoints to market to</p><p>[15:00] How to choose a single feature to market</p><p>[21:54] B2B examples of single feature ads that recognize customer pain points</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@vrbo">Watch Vrbo Commercials</a></p><p><a href="https://www.vrbo.com/">Learn more about Vrbo</a></p><p><a href="https://www.aprildunford.com/books">Read April Dunford’s book on product positioning, Obviously Awesome</a></p><p><a href="https://monday.com/lp/crm?cq_src=google_ads&cq_cmp=15060021489&cq_term=easiest%20crm%20to%20use&cq_plac=&cq_net=g&cq_plt=gp&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=adwordssearch&utm_campaign=us-en-prm-workos-crm-crm_lt-h-search-desktop-core-aw&utm_keyword=easiest%20crm%20to%20use&utm_match_type=e&cluster=crm&subcluster=health_care&ati=&utm_adgroup=easiest%20crm&utm_banner=655346187497&gad=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwjMiiBhA4EiwAZe6jQ9xgZLHdwKC7yn_KgS79jS41G6gC1ZJa0DFaZ9A4yB-q7F6SbQnKVxoCJgMQAvD_BwE">Check out Monday.com and their positioning against other CRMs</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you feel like you’re struggling to differentiate your company from a sea saturated with similar brands, this is the episode for you. </p><p>You want to market your brand to make it pop, yet it can feel overwhelming trying to nail down a winning idea for your next campaign. That’s because out of 100 factors, you might have 99 in common with your competitors. But that one factor that your competitors don't have, THAT is the one you market. </p><p>On this episode of Remarkable, we’re relaxing to the soft, soothing music of the Vrbo ad campaign, “Only Your People.” We’re chatting about how the campaign helped Vrbo, a brand that’s been around for nearly three decades, to grab audience attention as a major competitor to Airbnb. </p><p>Vrbo repositioned itself through a single message: only your people will be at the rental. It’s responding to a pain point specific to Airbnb customers who don’t want to share a space with the host or other guests. And the campaign is getting talked about in marketing circles everywhere. So follow along as we talk about how you, too, can position your brand as a major name in your industry. </p><p><strong>About Corporate Bro</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.vrbo.com/">Vrbo</a> is a vacation rental company similar to Airbnb. So homeowners list their properties directly on the Vrbo site; beach houses, mountain cabins, treehouses, villas, boats, and more.</p><p>It <a href="https://www.lodgify.com/guides/airbnb-competitors/">started</a> in 1995 as an independent company acquired by HomeAway in 2006, and then again in 2015 by Expedia Group.</p><p>The name V-R-B-O is an acronym for Vacation Rentals by Owner.</p><p>VRBO is <a href="https://www.lodgify.com/guides/airbnb-competitors/">Airbnb's biggest competitor </a>with over 2 million listings and vacation rentals in more than 190 countries. Their website sees over 15.9 million unique visitors per month, and listings are posted on the Expedia site, which sees 730 million unique visitors per month.</p><p>The big difference between Vrbo and Airbnb is that Vrbo only offers entire properties for rent. So renters have the whole place to themselves, whereas on Airbnb, renters have the option of house shares. This means they may be renting a room within a house and the owner is there at the same time. Because of this, Vrbo tends to attract larger, higher-end property rentals and cater to groups of people, whether whole families or friends, or simply folks with higher budgets.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Vrbo: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Study your buyers to find their pain points and create messaging for each of them.</strong> This shows your audience that you’re listening to them and that their opinions matter. And it helps build trust! An example of this is Wix, whose ad, “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXQ7qgvT3_w">The Power of Wix Infrastructure</a>,” reassures users their websites are backed by four data centers and tens of thousands of servers. In other words, there’s basically no way their site could go down. This is different from other hosting providers, where a site might run on one dedicated server, increasing the risk of the site crashing. They also have an ad called “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6uoq-8jOl0">Security’s On Us</a>,” highlighting how they offer enterprise-grade security that’s fully managed for users. It has lots of bells and whistles to prevent hackers and bugs from gaining access to the site. So users won’t have to worry about either hackers or their site crashing, which may happen with other hosting sites.</li><li><strong>Identify what your differentiating feature is from your competitors and create a campaign around it.</strong> Run it as a single-feature ad on a key position. The simple, straight-forward messaging and clear benefit of your brand over others will resonate with your target audience. Ian says, “the point of positioning is to focus on the one thing that your competitor can't. A great positioning campaign like this allows there to be no wiggle room at all. You cannot get around this. If [customers] believe that this one feature is so important, then you're guaranteed to earn their business.” CRM Platform <a href="https://monday.com/lp/crm?cq_src=google_ads&cq_cmp=15060021489&cq_term=easiest%20crm%20to%20use&cq_plac=&cq_net=g&cq_plt=gp&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=adwordssearch&utm_campaign=us-en-prm-workos-crm-crm_lt-h-search-desktop-core-aw&utm_keyword=easiest%20crm%20to%20use&utm_match_type=e&cluster=crm&subcluster=health_care&ati=&utm_adgroup=easiest%20crm&utm_banner=655346187497&gad=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwjMiiBhA4EiwAZe6jQ9xgZLHdwKC7yn_KgS79jS41G6gC1ZJa0DFaZ9A4yB-q7F6SbQnKVxoCJgMQAvD_BwE">Monday.com</a> ran a campaign that’s a great example of this. They have an ad that shows up in Google search results that says, “CRM Without the Frustration - No-Code CRM Software.” The ad acknowledges and validates a pain point of other CRM platforms - that they are hard to learn how to use - and offers a solution.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Vrbo is just an overall, generally more predictable experience. You know what you're going to get. You don't know what you're going to get with Airbnb. And for some people, that is the delight of going to Airbnb, it’s like there is a little bit of serendipity there. Whereas for Vrbo, nope, you're not paying for serendipity.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*“It's really understanding the pain points as well. You really have to study the buyer’s thought process to understand the super common pain points.” - Colin Stamps</p><p>*”[Monday.com] took all the pain points and they were like, ‘Let's create messaging for each of these to stand out from the other search results that are currently showing up for our competitors.’” - Anagha Das</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[1:29] Tell me more about Vrbo</p><p>[3:51] About the "Only Your People" ad campaign</p><p>[6:33] How Vrbo differentiates itself from Airbnb with new ad campaign</p><p>[11:48] The importance of messaging to make your brand stand out from competitors</p><p>[14:42] How to identify customer pinpoints to market to</p><p>[15:00] How to choose a single feature to market</p><p>[21:54] B2B examples of single feature ads that recognize customer pain points</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@vrbo">Watch Vrbo Commercials</a></p><p><a href="https://www.vrbo.com/">Learn more about Vrbo</a></p><p><a href="https://www.aprildunford.com/books">Read April Dunford’s book on product positioning, Obviously Awesome</a></p><p><a href="https://monday.com/lp/crm?cq_src=google_ads&cq_cmp=15060021489&cq_term=easiest%20crm%20to%20use&cq_plac=&cq_net=g&cq_plt=gp&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=adwordssearch&utm_campaign=us-en-prm-workos-crm-crm_lt-h-search-desktop-core-aw&utm_keyword=easiest%20crm%20to%20use&utm_match_type=e&cluster=crm&subcluster=health_care&ati=&utm_adgroup=easiest%20crm&utm_banner=655346187497&gad=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwjMiiBhA4EiwAZe6jQ9xgZLHdwKC7yn_KgS79jS41G6gC1ZJa0DFaZ9A4yB-q7F6SbQnKVxoCJgMQAvD_BwE">Check out Monday.com and their positioning against other CRMs</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Vrbo: How to Position Your Brand To Advertise What Your Competitors Can&apos;t</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:summary>If you feel like you’re struggling to differentiate your company from a sea saturated with similar brands, this is the episode for you. 

You want to market your brand to make it pop, yet it can feel overwhelming trying to nail down a winning idea for your next campaign. That’s because out of 100 factors, you might have 99 in common with your competitors. But that one factor that your competitors don&apos;t have, THAT is the one you market. 

On this episode of Remarkable, we’re relaxing to the soft, soothing music of the Vrbo ad campaign, “Only Your People.” We’re chatting about how the campaign helped Vrbo, a brand that’s been around for nearly three decades, to grab audience attention as a major competitor to Airbnb. 

Vrbo repositioned itself through a single message: only your people will be at the rental. It’s responding to a pain point specific to Airbnb customers who don’t want to share a space with the host or other guests. And the campaign is getting talked about in marketing circles everywhere. So follow along as we talk about how you, too, can position your brand as a major name in your industry. </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>If you feel like you’re struggling to differentiate your company from a sea saturated with similar brands, this is the episode for you. 

You want to market your brand to make it pop, yet it can feel overwhelming trying to nail down a winning idea for your next campaign. That’s because out of 100 factors, you might have 99 in common with your competitors. But that one factor that your competitors don&apos;t have, THAT is the one you market. 

On this episode of Remarkable, we’re relaxing to the soft, soothing music of the Vrbo ad campaign, “Only Your People.” We’re chatting about how the campaign helped Vrbo, a brand that’s been around for nearly three decades, to grab audience attention as a major competitor to Airbnb. 

Vrbo repositioned itself through a single message: only your people will be at the rental. It’s responding to a pain point specific to Airbnb customers who don’t want to share a space with the host or other guests. And the campaign is getting talked about in marketing circles everywhere. So follow along as we talk about how you, too, can position your brand as a major name in your industry. </itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>We don’t have to convince you, a B2B marketer, that S.A.D. (Sales Are Dope). You live, breathe, and dream in analytics, KPI’s, and conversion rates. You count impressions in your dreams instead of sheep. </p><p>But you may actually be taking yourself too seriously. It’s time to have some fun with your work and use satire in your marketing.  </p><p>The irony, sarcasm, and parody of satire in your content, hits your target audience hard, and differentiates your content from the sea of corporate handshake stock photos and banality that B2B marketing materials usually consist of. </p><p>On this episode of Remarkable, we’re binge-watching <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIOK2ypWf84RF1lFiOd9_eg">Corporate Bro</a> videos on YouTube. Listen in as we show you why a portion of your marketing budget should be used to make world class edu-tainment content. </p><p>We also cover how you can take a multi-channel, multi-format approach, and partner with a well-known content creator. So you can A.B.C. (Always Be Closing.)</p><p><strong>About Corporate Bro</strong></p><p>Corporate Bro is a sketch comedy character that satirizes corporate sales life. <a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm11334059/bio">Ross Pomerantz </a>is the mastermind behind the character. Ross is a content creator, corporate speaker and entrepreneur from Atlanta, Georgia. He writes, produces, and stars in the sketches. <a href="https://www.thequota.co/articles/an-interview-with-the-internets-most-famous-sales-comedian-ross-pomerantz-aka-corporate-bro">He started </a>making 6-second videos on Vine in 2013 when he started his first tech sales job at Oracle. He has now performed for companies like Dropbox, Smartsheet and Salesforce. And his YouTube, which he started in 2016, has 25M subscribers. Ross holds an MBA from Stanford University, and his full-time day job is on the leadership team at Bravado (as of 2022).</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Corporate Bro: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Use a percentage of your marketing budget to make funny stuff.</strong> Comedy, edutainment, whatever you want to call it. Make something just to connect with your audience, and make them laugh. Because, Colin says, “You probably have some white papers, some webinars, et cetera, and that's fine. You should have all that. But there's also that angle of, ‘All right, let's put out some other content that's a little more entertaining and relatable and fun.’” Let’s face it - not many B2B companies are making their audience laugh. But there are cheeky ways to get your audience to crack a smile! The sales engagement company <a href="https://sopro.io/resources/blog/be-bolder-using-humour-in-your-b2b-marketing/">Sopro</a> made a campaign called “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IpxGld5ZXs&t=28s">We Love Our Clients</a>.” The video shows a slew of clients making difficult requests, and ends with the phrase, “Sopro makes finding clients easy. You just have to deal with them.” This kind of satire creates impact and makes your brand stand out.</li><li><strong>Use a multi-channel, multi-format approach.</strong> Distribute content across multiple social media channels. Go where your audience is — whether that’s Instagram, YouTube, LinkedIn, etc. And do both short and long-form videos. A great example of a multi-channel, multi-format approach is how Scratch Pad created a podcast called <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/beyond-quota/id1565559870">Beyond Quota</a> that they collaborate on with Corporate Bro, and share episodes both on podcast streaming platforms as well as on YouTube. So, no matter what platform your audience spends time on, they’ll see your content there. </li><li><strong>Partner with a well-known content creator.</strong> No matter what industry you’re in, there’s a content creator for you. Find somebody whose messaging would resonate with your audience and create a campaign with them. Ian says, “There's a million examples of times where people just try to borrow a celebrity's audience and that doesn't work. It's not about that. It's about co-creating something with them that is unique and special.” A great example of content co-creation is when marketing automation company <a href="https://contently.com/2022/06/21/how-b2b-businesses-can-leverage-influencer-marketing-in-2022/">Klaviyo</a> partnered with Eli Weiss, Senior Director of CX and Retention at Jones Road Beauty, on their <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFoW6mLkVUA">Less Stalking, More Talking</a> campaign. Weiss is not just a relevant and trusted name in e-commerce, but he also shares the same customer-first philosophy as Klaviyo, making him a perfect fit for the campaign. By working together, they’re leveraging both of their audiences, spreading brand awareness, building trust, and creating memorable content. It’s a win-win-win…win situation.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”What you can control as a marketer is [being] consistent and repeatable. That's what [Corporate Bro] has done for a decade and that is a pathway to winning.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”What makes Corporate Bro so good is it connects with you in a way [that reminds you] not to take yourself too seriously when perhaps your job is on the line if you don't close this deal or if you don't have a good quarter.” - Colin Stamps</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[1:25] Tell me more about Corporate Bro</p><p>[3:02] Why are we covering Corporate Bro?</p><p>[6:09] What is satire? What's the psychology of satire?</p><p>[11:11] How do you run multi-channel, multi-format campaign? </p><p>[13:38] What are examples of companies who have partnered with content creators?</p><p>[15:42] Why is it important for companies to make funny content?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIOK2ypWf84RF1lFiOd9_eg">Watch Corporate Bro videos</a></p><p><a href="https://corporatebro.com/">Check out Corporate Bro’s website</a></p><p><a href="https://corporatebro.com/press">Read about Corporate Bro in the press</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/corporate.bro/?hl=en">Follow Ross Pomerantz aka Corporate Bro on Instagram</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/corporatebro/">Connect with Corporate Bro on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/TheRealCorpBro">Follow Corporate Bro on Twitter</a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/beyond-quota/id1565559870">Check out Beyond Quota podcast with Corporate Bro</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rqQG1TugkQ">Tune in to Sales Are Dope (S.A.D.)</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don’t have to convince you, a B2B marketer, that S.A.D. (Sales Are Dope). You live, breathe, and dream in analytics, KPI’s, and conversion rates. You count impressions in your dreams instead of sheep. </p><p>But you may actually be taking yourself too seriously. It’s time to have some fun with your work and use satire in your marketing.  </p><p>The irony, sarcasm, and parody of satire in your content, hits your target audience hard, and differentiates your content from the sea of corporate handshake stock photos and banality that B2B marketing materials usually consist of. </p><p>On this episode of Remarkable, we’re binge-watching <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIOK2ypWf84RF1lFiOd9_eg">Corporate Bro</a> videos on YouTube. Listen in as we show you why a portion of your marketing budget should be used to make world class edu-tainment content. </p><p>We also cover how you can take a multi-channel, multi-format approach, and partner with a well-known content creator. So you can A.B.C. (Always Be Closing.)</p><p><strong>About Corporate Bro</strong></p><p>Corporate Bro is a sketch comedy character that satirizes corporate sales life. <a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm11334059/bio">Ross Pomerantz </a>is the mastermind behind the character. Ross is a content creator, corporate speaker and entrepreneur from Atlanta, Georgia. He writes, produces, and stars in the sketches. <a href="https://www.thequota.co/articles/an-interview-with-the-internets-most-famous-sales-comedian-ross-pomerantz-aka-corporate-bro">He started </a>making 6-second videos on Vine in 2013 when he started his first tech sales job at Oracle. He has now performed for companies like Dropbox, Smartsheet and Salesforce. And his YouTube, which he started in 2016, has 25M subscribers. Ross holds an MBA from Stanford University, and his full-time day job is on the leadership team at Bravado (as of 2022).</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Corporate Bro: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Use a percentage of your marketing budget to make funny stuff.</strong> Comedy, edutainment, whatever you want to call it. Make something just to connect with your audience, and make them laugh. Because, Colin says, “You probably have some white papers, some webinars, et cetera, and that's fine. You should have all that. But there's also that angle of, ‘All right, let's put out some other content that's a little more entertaining and relatable and fun.’” Let’s face it - not many B2B companies are making their audience laugh. But there are cheeky ways to get your audience to crack a smile! The sales engagement company <a href="https://sopro.io/resources/blog/be-bolder-using-humour-in-your-b2b-marketing/">Sopro</a> made a campaign called “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IpxGld5ZXs&t=28s">We Love Our Clients</a>.” The video shows a slew of clients making difficult requests, and ends with the phrase, “Sopro makes finding clients easy. You just have to deal with them.” This kind of satire creates impact and makes your brand stand out.</li><li><strong>Use a multi-channel, multi-format approach.</strong> Distribute content across multiple social media channels. Go where your audience is — whether that’s Instagram, YouTube, LinkedIn, etc. And do both short and long-form videos. A great example of a multi-channel, multi-format approach is how Scratch Pad created a podcast called <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/beyond-quota/id1565559870">Beyond Quota</a> that they collaborate on with Corporate Bro, and share episodes both on podcast streaming platforms as well as on YouTube. So, no matter what platform your audience spends time on, they’ll see your content there. </li><li><strong>Partner with a well-known content creator.</strong> No matter what industry you’re in, there’s a content creator for you. Find somebody whose messaging would resonate with your audience and create a campaign with them. Ian says, “There's a million examples of times where people just try to borrow a celebrity's audience and that doesn't work. It's not about that. It's about co-creating something with them that is unique and special.” A great example of content co-creation is when marketing automation company <a href="https://contently.com/2022/06/21/how-b2b-businesses-can-leverage-influencer-marketing-in-2022/">Klaviyo</a> partnered with Eli Weiss, Senior Director of CX and Retention at Jones Road Beauty, on their <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFoW6mLkVUA">Less Stalking, More Talking</a> campaign. Weiss is not just a relevant and trusted name in e-commerce, but he also shares the same customer-first philosophy as Klaviyo, making him a perfect fit for the campaign. By working together, they’re leveraging both of their audiences, spreading brand awareness, building trust, and creating memorable content. It’s a win-win-win…win situation.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”What you can control as a marketer is [being] consistent and repeatable. That's what [Corporate Bro] has done for a decade and that is a pathway to winning.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”What makes Corporate Bro so good is it connects with you in a way [that reminds you] not to take yourself too seriously when perhaps your job is on the line if you don't close this deal or if you don't have a good quarter.” - Colin Stamps</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[1:25] Tell me more about Corporate Bro</p><p>[3:02] Why are we covering Corporate Bro?</p><p>[6:09] What is satire? What's the psychology of satire?</p><p>[11:11] How do you run multi-channel, multi-format campaign? </p><p>[13:38] What are examples of companies who have partnered with content creators?</p><p>[15:42] Why is it important for companies to make funny content?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIOK2ypWf84RF1lFiOd9_eg">Watch Corporate Bro videos</a></p><p><a href="https://corporatebro.com/">Check out Corporate Bro’s website</a></p><p><a href="https://corporatebro.com/press">Read about Corporate Bro in the press</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/corporate.bro/?hl=en">Follow Ross Pomerantz aka Corporate Bro on Instagram</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/corporatebro/">Connect with Corporate Bro on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/TheRealCorpBro">Follow Corporate Bro on Twitter</a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/beyond-quota/id1565559870">Check out Beyond Quota podcast with Corporate Bro</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rqQG1TugkQ">Tune in to Sales Are Dope (S.A.D.)</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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But you may actually be taking yourself too seriously. It’s time to have some fun with your work and use satire in your marketing.  
The irony, sarcasm, and parody of satire in your content, hits your target audience hard, and differentiates your content from the sea of corporate handshake stock photos and banality that B2B marketing materials usually consist of. 

On this episode of Remarkable, we’re binge-watching Corporate Bro videos on YouTube. Listen in as we show you why a portion of your marketing budget should be used to make world class edu-tainment content. 

We also cover how you can take a multi-channel, multi-format approach, and partner with a well-known content creator. So you can A.B.C. (Always Be Closing.)</itunes:summary>
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The irony, sarcasm, and parody of satire in your content, hits your target audience hard, and differentiates your content from the sea of corporate handshake stock photos and banality that B2B marketing materials usually consist of. 

On this episode of Remarkable, we’re binge-watching Corporate Bro videos on YouTube. Listen in as we show you why a portion of your marketing budget should be used to make world class edu-tainment content. 

We also cover how you can take a multi-channel, multi-format approach, and partner with a well-known content creator. So you can A.B.C. (Always Be Closing.)</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>You Suck at Cooking: How To Embrace Your Mistakes in B2B Marketing</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>You - yes you - as a B2B marketer are trained to be PERFECT. You’re a well-oiled machine hell bent on accuracy, precision, and aesthetics. </p><p>Chances are you might not like what we have to say in this episode:  sometimes it pays to be imperfect. That’s right! We want you to embrace your mistakes.</p><p>Mistakes are part of the marketing process. Everybody makes them! It’s time to accept your mistakes and be transparent about them. Your audience will be attracted to your authenticity, and you’ll have an edge over legacy brands in the industry.</p><p>On this episode of Remarkable, we’re wallowing in the sarcasm, quick wit, and irreverence of the YouTube show You Suck at Cooking. We’re showing you how embracing mistakes will only level up your marketing skills, and how being real goes a <i>long way </i>at winning over your audience.</p><p><strong>About You Suck at Cooking</strong></p><p>You Suck at Cooking is a YouTube channel that satirizes classic cooking shows. Instead of being a picture-perfect set with the whole mise-en-place on a pristine kitchen set, the videos are clearly made by some dude in his own kitchen, for fun. He uses decidedly unprofessional terms — for example, he calls stirring “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QZE3erhL_I">wangjangling</a>,” and once mistakenly called his oven “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBU0_KF8sW4">onion</a>.” He often burns whatever he’s making. But chef or not, the videos do have their own flair, including (but not limited to) original songs, stop motion animation, voicemails from his dad, special appearances of his dogs, and much, much more.</p><p>The videos are shot from overhead as a pair of disembodied hands make the food in an everyday kitchen and a narrator walks you through each step. In fact, we never see the creator’s face. He’s totally anonymous. He even released a <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/586264/you-suck-at-cooking-by-you-suck-at-cooking/">book</a> called You Suck at Cooking: THE ABSURDLY PRACTICAL GUIDE TO SUCKING SLIGHTLY LESS AT MAKING FOOD: A COOKBOOK. The author is listed as…You Suck at Cooking. But according to a <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/yousuckatcooking/comments/dp62yd/so_like_is_his_name_mel/">thread</a> on Reddit, his name <i>might</i> be Mel. Anyway, the channel was started in 2015, and now has over 3 million subscribers.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From You Suck at Cooking: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Accept that getting things wrong is part of the process.</strong> It’s part of the journey to getting better at marketing. You could even say that if it weren’t for the mistakes, you’d never improve. Ian says, “In the B2B world and the tech world, when you're trying to create content, you want to create, like ‘This is the best way to do something.’ But the truth is, you figured out the best way by making 5,000 mistakes.” It’s all about how you pivot, think on your feet, and adjust your workflow based on what the mistake taught you. A good example of this is when Sony fell victim to one of the largest data breaches in history back in 2011. The breach exposed 77 million PlayStation users’ information. In response, the CEO personally <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-13206004">apologized</a>. Sony offered victims of the breach identity theft insurance, as well as a free month of PlayStation Plus. The CEO reassured users that PlayStation was taking additional measures to protect personally identifiable information. In other words, the company acknowledged the mistake, offered compensation, and promised to do better.</li><li><strong>Position yourself as a disruptor in the industry. </strong>Set yourself apart from legacy or traditional brands in the industry, and do it through humor! Make fun of the differences between your company and competitors. For example, <a href="https://medium.com/@rupinjayal/how-irreverence-can-make-brands-more-irresistible-d0ae7a88fcd0">Swatch</a> made Swiss-made watches accessible and relevant to younger consumers with their playful branding, that set them apart from legacy luxury Swiss watch brands like Hublot or OMEGA. Another example is life insurance company, <a href="https://deadhappy.com/">Dead Happy</a>. They invite customers to “Make a Deathwish,” or in other words, make a wish for what you want your payout to be spent on when you die. It could be anything from sending your ashes to the edge of space to paying for someone to take care of your pets. The dark humor sets them apart from conventional life insurance companies and earns them a following, especially with younger generations.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”In the B2B world and the tech world, when you're trying to create content, you want to create, like ‘This is the best way to do something.’ But the truth is, you figured out the best way by making 5,000 mistakes. Like, you either get it right or you or you learn. And I think that that part for B2B marketing makes it way more real if you understand the mistakes, and if you make the case study. And if it's just the good stuff and not the bad stuff, then it's not gonna feel as real.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”It gives you an edge if you're the one who's saying what everyone else is thinking but doesn't have the guts to say. When it comes to B2B, we're all in the trenches together. So if we can level with each other and just be real, that's a better way to make relationships because you're trying to schmooze someone that’s in the business of schmoozing. It's like we can see through it. It just makes it feel more genuine” - Jaz Zepatos</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[1:15] Tell me more about You Suck at Cooking</p><p>[4:10] What makes YSAC remarkable?</p><p>[15:24] Why you should share anti-case studies</p><p>[17:50] How does this apply to B2B?</p><p>[21:00] What are some examples of irreverence or embracing mistakes in marketing?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@yousuckatcooking/videos">Watch You Suck at Cooking on YouTube</a></p><p><a href="http://yousuckatcooking.com/">Visit YSAC Website</a></p><p><a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/586264/you-suck-at-cooking-by-you-suck-at-cooking/">Get YSAC Book</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/yousuckatcooking/?hl=en">Check out YSAC Instagram</a></p><p><a href="https://soundcloud.com/yousuckatcooking">Listen to original YSAC music on SoundCloud</a></p><p><a href="https://www.qualtrics.com/news/irreverent-on-xm/">Qualtrics and their irreverent film series</a></p><p><a href="https://deadhappy.com/">Life Insurance Company Dead Happy wants your Deathwish</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2023 21:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Scott Goodrich, Anagha Das, Ian Faison, Meredith O&apos;Neil, Jaz Zepatos)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You - yes you - as a B2B marketer are trained to be PERFECT. You’re a well-oiled machine hell bent on accuracy, precision, and aesthetics. </p><p>Chances are you might not like what we have to say in this episode:  sometimes it pays to be imperfect. That’s right! We want you to embrace your mistakes.</p><p>Mistakes are part of the marketing process. Everybody makes them! It’s time to accept your mistakes and be transparent about them. Your audience will be attracted to your authenticity, and you’ll have an edge over legacy brands in the industry.</p><p>On this episode of Remarkable, we’re wallowing in the sarcasm, quick wit, and irreverence of the YouTube show You Suck at Cooking. We’re showing you how embracing mistakes will only level up your marketing skills, and how being real goes a <i>long way </i>at winning over your audience.</p><p><strong>About You Suck at Cooking</strong></p><p>You Suck at Cooking is a YouTube channel that satirizes classic cooking shows. Instead of being a picture-perfect set with the whole mise-en-place on a pristine kitchen set, the videos are clearly made by some dude in his own kitchen, for fun. He uses decidedly unprofessional terms — for example, he calls stirring “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QZE3erhL_I">wangjangling</a>,” and once mistakenly called his oven “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBU0_KF8sW4">onion</a>.” He often burns whatever he’s making. But chef or not, the videos do have their own flair, including (but not limited to) original songs, stop motion animation, voicemails from his dad, special appearances of his dogs, and much, much more.</p><p>The videos are shot from overhead as a pair of disembodied hands make the food in an everyday kitchen and a narrator walks you through each step. In fact, we never see the creator’s face. He’s totally anonymous. He even released a <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/586264/you-suck-at-cooking-by-you-suck-at-cooking/">book</a> called You Suck at Cooking: THE ABSURDLY PRACTICAL GUIDE TO SUCKING SLIGHTLY LESS AT MAKING FOOD: A COOKBOOK. The author is listed as…You Suck at Cooking. But according to a <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/yousuckatcooking/comments/dp62yd/so_like_is_his_name_mel/">thread</a> on Reddit, his name <i>might</i> be Mel. Anyway, the channel was started in 2015, and now has over 3 million subscribers.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From You Suck at Cooking: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Accept that getting things wrong is part of the process.</strong> It’s part of the journey to getting better at marketing. You could even say that if it weren’t for the mistakes, you’d never improve. Ian says, “In the B2B world and the tech world, when you're trying to create content, you want to create, like ‘This is the best way to do something.’ But the truth is, you figured out the best way by making 5,000 mistakes.” It’s all about how you pivot, think on your feet, and adjust your workflow based on what the mistake taught you. A good example of this is when Sony fell victim to one of the largest data breaches in history back in 2011. The breach exposed 77 million PlayStation users’ information. In response, the CEO personally <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-13206004">apologized</a>. Sony offered victims of the breach identity theft insurance, as well as a free month of PlayStation Plus. The CEO reassured users that PlayStation was taking additional measures to protect personally identifiable information. In other words, the company acknowledged the mistake, offered compensation, and promised to do better.</li><li><strong>Position yourself as a disruptor in the industry. </strong>Set yourself apart from legacy or traditional brands in the industry, and do it through humor! Make fun of the differences between your company and competitors. For example, <a href="https://medium.com/@rupinjayal/how-irreverence-can-make-brands-more-irresistible-d0ae7a88fcd0">Swatch</a> made Swiss-made watches accessible and relevant to younger consumers with their playful branding, that set them apart from legacy luxury Swiss watch brands like Hublot or OMEGA. Another example is life insurance company, <a href="https://deadhappy.com/">Dead Happy</a>. They invite customers to “Make a Deathwish,” or in other words, make a wish for what you want your payout to be spent on when you die. It could be anything from sending your ashes to the edge of space to paying for someone to take care of your pets. The dark humor sets them apart from conventional life insurance companies and earns them a following, especially with younger generations.</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”In the B2B world and the tech world, when you're trying to create content, you want to create, like ‘This is the best way to do something.’ But the truth is, you figured out the best way by making 5,000 mistakes. Like, you either get it right or you or you learn. And I think that that part for B2B marketing makes it way more real if you understand the mistakes, and if you make the case study. And if it's just the good stuff and not the bad stuff, then it's not gonna feel as real.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”It gives you an edge if you're the one who's saying what everyone else is thinking but doesn't have the guts to say. When it comes to B2B, we're all in the trenches together. So if we can level with each other and just be real, that's a better way to make relationships because you're trying to schmooze someone that’s in the business of schmoozing. It's like we can see through it. It just makes it feel more genuine” - Jaz Zepatos</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[1:15] Tell me more about You Suck at Cooking</p><p>[4:10] What makes YSAC remarkable?</p><p>[15:24] Why you should share anti-case studies</p><p>[17:50] How does this apply to B2B?</p><p>[21:00] What are some examples of irreverence or embracing mistakes in marketing?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@yousuckatcooking/videos">Watch You Suck at Cooking on YouTube</a></p><p><a href="http://yousuckatcooking.com/">Visit YSAC Website</a></p><p><a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/586264/you-suck-at-cooking-by-you-suck-at-cooking/">Get YSAC Book</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/yousuckatcooking/?hl=en">Check out YSAC Instagram</a></p><p><a href="https://soundcloud.com/yousuckatcooking">Listen to original YSAC music on SoundCloud</a></p><p><a href="https://www.qualtrics.com/news/irreverent-on-xm/">Qualtrics and their irreverent film series</a></p><p><a href="https://deadhappy.com/">Life Insurance Company Dead Happy wants your Deathwish</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>You - yes you - as a B2B marketer are trained to be PERFECT. You’re a well-oiled machine hell bent on accuracy, precision, and aesthetics. 

Chances are you might not like what we have to say in this episode:  sometimes it pays to be imperfect. That’s right! We want you to embrace your mistakes.

Mistakes are part of the marketing process. Everybody makes them! It’s time to accept your mistakes and be transparent about them. Your audience will be attracted to your authenticity, and you’ll have an edge over legacy brands in the industry.

On this episode of Remarkable, we’re wallowing in the sarcasm, quick wit, and irreverence of the YouTube show You Suck at Cooking. We’re showing you how embracing mistakes will only level up your marketing skills, and how being real goes a long way at winning over your audience.</itunes:summary>
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Mistakes are part of the marketing process. Everybody makes them! It’s time to accept your mistakes and be transparent about them. Your audience will be attracted to your authenticity, and you’ll have an edge over legacy brands in the industry.

On this episode of Remarkable, we’re wallowing in the sarcasm, quick wit, and irreverence of the YouTube show You Suck at Cooking. We’re showing you how embracing mistakes will only level up your marketing skills, and how being real goes a long way at winning over your audience.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Jaz Zapp: How To Use Nostalgia in Your B2B Marketing</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>B2B ads can feel pretty soulless. But if you’re pulling your hair out and  struggling to connect emotionally with your audience, never fear. </p><p>We have the key to build a deep emotional connection with your audience instantly. That key is NOSTALGIA. </p><p>Take your audience on a trip down memory lane, and they’ll associate your company with something from the past that they already know and love. It’s a winning tactic that taps into feelings of familiarity, comfort, trust, and security. And on top of that, customers are <a href="http://www.jcr-admin.org/files/pressreleases/072214080253_July2014Release1.pdf">more willing</a> to pay for your product. </p><p>On this episode of Remarkable, we’re talking with podcaster and comedian Jaz Zepatos aka <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jaz_zapp/">Jaz Zapp</a>. We cover how she connects with her millennial audience, why they’re all lactose intolerant, and going viral. Jaz is a content creator on Instagram and TikTok, and is the host of the Millennial Movie Club podcast. And with her help, we’re teaching you how to use nostalgia in your B2B marketing.</p><p><strong>About Jaz Zapp</strong></p><p>Jaz is a full-time podcast producer, creative director, and host of the <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/millennial-movie-club/id1616592467">Millennial Movie Club </a>Podcast. A life-long storyteller and comedian with a flair for human connection and edutainment, Jaz enjoys making people laugh, networking with like-minded creatives, and trying to rollerblade without falling down.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Jaz Zapp:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Define “nostalgia” for your target customer.</strong> Nostalgia is specific to different age groups. What’s nostalgic to  your parents will not necessarily be nostalgic to you. So, talk to your customers about what work was like for them 10 or 20 years ago, and create a marketing campaign using their stories. Whether it was handing out physical checks on payday or the vending machine selling out of everything but plain Fritos, there’s content there that’s ripe for the picking. Apple tapped into nostalgia targeting many generations of Sesame Street fans when they <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MF6OYq_2Ooc">ran an ad</a> with Cookie Monster using Siri. Apple was able to appeal to a few different demographics by bringing in a universal childhood favorite, Cookie Monster, and taking us back to the good old days. For Jaz, it started with a memory about crushing on the red Power Ranger and imagining he had fallen in love with her.</li></ul><p>“I was like, look, maybe this is just very niche and weird to me. Or maybe there's somebody out there who also gets this. And nine times out of 10, there's a bunch of people that are like, ‘Oh my God, I thought I was just this weird.’ And suddenly you have this community. And it’s people that just want to be reminded of a simpler time. They feel seen and that they weren't so isolated in their experience growing up.” - Jaz Zepatos</p><ul><li><strong>Get weird, get cringey, get real.</strong> The closer your ad can get to a nostalgic memory for your target audience, the better. That even includes all of the weird, cringey details. From getting the attention of work crushes, to in-office pranks, or stealing parking spots — sprinkle these personal details into your marketing. As Ian put it, there’s so much pressure as a professional marketer to be serious:</li></ul><p>”I think part of the problem for marketers is that we feel like our job is to be a boring adult. If you're selling accounting software or whatever it is, you just feel like, ‘Well, I can't really do anything creative.’” </p><p>Whereas Jaz found a niche audience of nostalgic millennials and cultivated a community there: </p><p>”[I wanted to] just get more in touch with who I was. This was the kind of kid I was. And I like to harness that now because I don't wanna just be a boring adult. I wanna keep some of that with me.”</p><p>It’s easy for Jaz to take the lessons she’s learned on social media and apply it to B2B marketing:</p><p>”Behind that CRM platform, behind Salesforce, or behind whatever, is a bunch of people that also made their Barbies cheat on each other. I think it's remembering the humanity side of it, where it's like that's what you're appealing to, really. And then once you're in the door, then you can work together and get strategic on SEO and all that stuff. But at the end of the day, it means nothing if you're not striking a very human chord with somebody.”</p><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”If you're playing to everybody, you're playing to nobody. Niching down is always a good idea.” - Jaz Zepatos</p><p>*”[I wanted to] just get more in touch with who I was. This was the kind of kid I was. And I like to harness that now because I don't wanna just be a boring adult. I wanna keep some of that with me.” - Jaz Zepatos</p><p>*”I think part of the problem for marketers is that we feel like our job is to be a boring adult. If you're selling accounting software or whatever it is, you just feel like, ‘Well, I can't really do anything creative.’” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”Behind that CRM platform, behind Salesforce, or behind whatever, is a bunch of people that also made their Barbies cheat on each other. I think it's remembering the humanity side of it, where it's like that's what you're appealing to, really. And then once you're in the door, then you can work together and get strategic on SEO and all that stuff. But at the end of the day, it means nothing if you're not striking a very human chord with somebody.” - Jaz Zepatos</p><p>*”The cringier you can get, the more accessible you become. The same thing if you're pitching your company or your product, you want people to feel comfortable with you. You don't wanna walk in like the jock down the hallway and make everybody feel self-conscious. You wanna level with people. And so like for you to be like, ‘Hey, I'm not that cool, but like none of us are that cool. Let's have a conversation,’ is a lot more welcoming.” - Jaz Zepatos</p><p>*”People just want to feel some sense of comfort and relatability, and feel like they're a part of something bigger. So I think finding those moments from history and pop culture, TV, or movies, and just figuring out what collectively a group of people were into, and then bringing that back 20 years later is such a smart move.” - Anagha Das</p><p>*”Nostalgia isn’t nostalgia for everyone. Like Jaz's content wouldn't be nostalgic for boomers. So you have to identify who your audience is and who you're going to market to.” - Meredith Gooderham </p><p>*”Nostalgia allows you to transport the person instantly back to that feeling. Whether it's a vulnerable feeling, or fun or excitement, or any of those things. It can engender real emotions so quickly, and that's why it's so powerful. So if you're putting it into your marketing, it's a much faster, much deeper connection.” - Ian Faison</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[2:42] Tell me more about Jaz Zepatos aka Jaz Zapp</p><p>[3:11] How did Jaz tap into millennial nostalgia?</p><p>[8:03] Why marketers should embrace nostalgia as a powerful tool</p><p>[10:00] How can you use nostalgia to make your brand feel accessible?</p><p>[13:44] How do we apply nostalgia to B2B marketing?</p><p>[20:45] The emotional power of nostalgia and how you can use it in your marketing</p><p>[21:30] Examples of how nostalgia could be used in B2B marketing</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p>Check out Jaz on:</p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/jaz_zapp/?hl=en">Instagram</a></p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/JazZappFunnyGal/">Facebook</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/jaz_zapp?lang=en">Twitter</a></p><p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@jaz_zapp?lang=en">TikTok</a></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/3UcSTAgiDFM7SyklejBHv4">Spotify</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@jazzepatos8262">YouTube</a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/millennial-movie-club/id1616592467">The Millennial Movie Club Podcast</a></p><p><a href="https://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/plant-daddy-single-is-the-botanical-banger-we-didnt-know-we-needed/87254904/">eBaum’s World article on “Plant Daddy”</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MF6OYq_2Ooc">See how Apple tapped into nostalgia with their Cookie Monster ad</a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mean-girls-get-in-loser-were-going-shopping-for-b2b/id1649812073?i=1000588863203">Listen to Ep. 4 of Remarkable on Mean Girls and how it uses nostalgia to connect with viewers</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Apr 2023 22:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B2B ads can feel pretty soulless. But if you’re pulling your hair out and  struggling to connect emotionally with your audience, never fear. </p><p>We have the key to build a deep emotional connection with your audience instantly. That key is NOSTALGIA. </p><p>Take your audience on a trip down memory lane, and they’ll associate your company with something from the past that they already know and love. It’s a winning tactic that taps into feelings of familiarity, comfort, trust, and security. And on top of that, customers are <a href="http://www.jcr-admin.org/files/pressreleases/072214080253_July2014Release1.pdf">more willing</a> to pay for your product. </p><p>On this episode of Remarkable, we’re talking with podcaster and comedian Jaz Zepatos aka <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jaz_zapp/">Jaz Zapp</a>. We cover how she connects with her millennial audience, why they’re all lactose intolerant, and going viral. Jaz is a content creator on Instagram and TikTok, and is the host of the Millennial Movie Club podcast. And with her help, we’re teaching you how to use nostalgia in your B2B marketing.</p><p><strong>About Jaz Zapp</strong></p><p>Jaz is a full-time podcast producer, creative director, and host of the <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/millennial-movie-club/id1616592467">Millennial Movie Club </a>Podcast. A life-long storyteller and comedian with a flair for human connection and edutainment, Jaz enjoys making people laugh, networking with like-minded creatives, and trying to rollerblade without falling down.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Jaz Zapp:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Define “nostalgia” for your target customer.</strong> Nostalgia is specific to different age groups. What’s nostalgic to  your parents will not necessarily be nostalgic to you. So, talk to your customers about what work was like for them 10 or 20 years ago, and create a marketing campaign using their stories. Whether it was handing out physical checks on payday or the vending machine selling out of everything but plain Fritos, there’s content there that’s ripe for the picking. Apple tapped into nostalgia targeting many generations of Sesame Street fans when they <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MF6OYq_2Ooc">ran an ad</a> with Cookie Monster using Siri. Apple was able to appeal to a few different demographics by bringing in a universal childhood favorite, Cookie Monster, and taking us back to the good old days. For Jaz, it started with a memory about crushing on the red Power Ranger and imagining he had fallen in love with her.</li></ul><p>“I was like, look, maybe this is just very niche and weird to me. Or maybe there's somebody out there who also gets this. And nine times out of 10, there's a bunch of people that are like, ‘Oh my God, I thought I was just this weird.’ And suddenly you have this community. And it’s people that just want to be reminded of a simpler time. They feel seen and that they weren't so isolated in their experience growing up.” - Jaz Zepatos</p><ul><li><strong>Get weird, get cringey, get real.</strong> The closer your ad can get to a nostalgic memory for your target audience, the better. That even includes all of the weird, cringey details. From getting the attention of work crushes, to in-office pranks, or stealing parking spots — sprinkle these personal details into your marketing. As Ian put it, there’s so much pressure as a professional marketer to be serious:</li></ul><p>”I think part of the problem for marketers is that we feel like our job is to be a boring adult. If you're selling accounting software or whatever it is, you just feel like, ‘Well, I can't really do anything creative.’” </p><p>Whereas Jaz found a niche audience of nostalgic millennials and cultivated a community there: </p><p>”[I wanted to] just get more in touch with who I was. This was the kind of kid I was. And I like to harness that now because I don't wanna just be a boring adult. I wanna keep some of that with me.”</p><p>It’s easy for Jaz to take the lessons she’s learned on social media and apply it to B2B marketing:</p><p>”Behind that CRM platform, behind Salesforce, or behind whatever, is a bunch of people that also made their Barbies cheat on each other. I think it's remembering the humanity side of it, where it's like that's what you're appealing to, really. And then once you're in the door, then you can work together and get strategic on SEO and all that stuff. But at the end of the day, it means nothing if you're not striking a very human chord with somebody.”</p><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”If you're playing to everybody, you're playing to nobody. Niching down is always a good idea.” - Jaz Zepatos</p><p>*”[I wanted to] just get more in touch with who I was. This was the kind of kid I was. And I like to harness that now because I don't wanna just be a boring adult. I wanna keep some of that with me.” - Jaz Zepatos</p><p>*”I think part of the problem for marketers is that we feel like our job is to be a boring adult. If you're selling accounting software or whatever it is, you just feel like, ‘Well, I can't really do anything creative.’” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”Behind that CRM platform, behind Salesforce, or behind whatever, is a bunch of people that also made their Barbies cheat on each other. I think it's remembering the humanity side of it, where it's like that's what you're appealing to, really. And then once you're in the door, then you can work together and get strategic on SEO and all that stuff. But at the end of the day, it means nothing if you're not striking a very human chord with somebody.” - Jaz Zepatos</p><p>*”The cringier you can get, the more accessible you become. The same thing if you're pitching your company or your product, you want people to feel comfortable with you. You don't wanna walk in like the jock down the hallway and make everybody feel self-conscious. You wanna level with people. And so like for you to be like, ‘Hey, I'm not that cool, but like none of us are that cool. Let's have a conversation,’ is a lot more welcoming.” - Jaz Zepatos</p><p>*”People just want to feel some sense of comfort and relatability, and feel like they're a part of something bigger. So I think finding those moments from history and pop culture, TV, or movies, and just figuring out what collectively a group of people were into, and then bringing that back 20 years later is such a smart move.” - Anagha Das</p><p>*”Nostalgia isn’t nostalgia for everyone. Like Jaz's content wouldn't be nostalgic for boomers. So you have to identify who your audience is and who you're going to market to.” - Meredith Gooderham </p><p>*”Nostalgia allows you to transport the person instantly back to that feeling. Whether it's a vulnerable feeling, or fun or excitement, or any of those things. It can engender real emotions so quickly, and that's why it's so powerful. So if you're putting it into your marketing, it's a much faster, much deeper connection.” - Ian Faison</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[2:42] Tell me more about Jaz Zepatos aka Jaz Zapp</p><p>[3:11] How did Jaz tap into millennial nostalgia?</p><p>[8:03] Why marketers should embrace nostalgia as a powerful tool</p><p>[10:00] How can you use nostalgia to make your brand feel accessible?</p><p>[13:44] How do we apply nostalgia to B2B marketing?</p><p>[20:45] The emotional power of nostalgia and how you can use it in your marketing</p><p>[21:30] Examples of how nostalgia could be used in B2B marketing</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p>Check out Jaz on:</p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/jaz_zapp/?hl=en">Instagram</a></p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/JazZappFunnyGal/">Facebook</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/jaz_zapp?lang=en">Twitter</a></p><p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@jaz_zapp?lang=en">TikTok</a></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/3UcSTAgiDFM7SyklejBHv4">Spotify</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@jazzepatos8262">YouTube</a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/millennial-movie-club/id1616592467">The Millennial Movie Club Podcast</a></p><p><a href="https://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/plant-daddy-single-is-the-botanical-banger-we-didnt-know-we-needed/87254904/">eBaum’s World article on “Plant Daddy”</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MF6OYq_2Ooc">See how Apple tapped into nostalgia with their Cookie Monster ad</a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mean-girls-get-in-loser-were-going-shopping-for-b2b/id1649812073?i=1000588863203">Listen to Ep. 4 of Remarkable on Mean Girls and how it uses nostalgia to connect with viewers</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>B2B ads can feel pretty soulless. But if you’re pulling your hair out and  struggling to connect emotionally with your audience, never fear. 

We have the key to build a deep emotional connection with your audience instantly. That key is NOSTALGIA. 

Take your audience on a trip down memory lane, and they’ll associate your company with something from the past that they already know and love. It’s a winning tactic that taps into feelings of familiarity, comfort, trust, and security. And on top of that, customers are more willing to pay for your product. 

On this episode of Remarkable, we’re talking with podcaster and comedian Jaz Zepatos aka Jaz Zapp. We cover how she connects with her millennial audience, why they’re all lactose intolerant, and going viral. Jaz is a content creator on Instagram and TikTok, and is the host of the Millennial Movie Club podcast. And with her help, we’re teaching you how to use nostalgia in your B2B marketing.</itunes:summary>
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We have the key to build a deep emotional connection with your audience instantly. That key is NOSTALGIA. 

Take your audience on a trip down memory lane, and they’ll associate your company with something from the past that they already know and love. It’s a winning tactic that taps into feelings of familiarity, comfort, trust, and security. And on top of that, customers are more willing to pay for your product. 

On this episode of Remarkable, we’re talking with podcaster and comedian Jaz Zepatos aka Jaz Zapp. We cover how she connects with her millennial audience, why they’re all lactose intolerant, and going viral. Jaz is a content creator on Instagram and TikTok, and is the host of the Millennial Movie Club podcast. And with her help, we’re teaching you how to use nostalgia in your B2B marketing.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Monty Python and the Holy Grail: How to Embrace Your Limitations</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Your marketing budget is limited. It might even be bare bones.  And, believe it or not, that could be a really good thing for you.</p><p>Here’s the thing about limitations: they inspire creativity. Limited resources force you to figure out how to take advantage of what you have in order to create the most impact. When you lean into those choices, you can create something stylistically unique and compelling – and become the stuff marketing legends (and Remarkable episodes) are made of.</p><p>On this episode of Remarkable, we’re taking lessons from one of the most iconic scenes in Monty Python and the Holy Grail: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqtS9xyl0f4&t=58s">the coconut scene</a> – aka the very first scene of the movie.</p><p>For those who haven’t seen Monty Python and the Holy Grail, the movie opens with the distant sound of a galloping horse heard through thick fog. But what emerges from the fog is not a horse. It’s King Arthur skipping around on foot. His squire Patsy is following him, rhythmically knocking a pair of coconut shells together to mimic a horse’s trot.</p><p>There’s a reason this knight is using coconuts to stand in for a horse: the film couldn’t afford real horses. Instead, they improvised one of the funniest scenes in film history. They grabbed a couple of coconuts and knocked them together to sound like the gallop of a horse. This absurd yet brilliant idea is just one of the many reasons Monty Python and the Holy Grail is a cult classic. Today, we’re going to show you how you can embrace your own limitations – and hopefully create a cult following of your own.</p><p><strong>About Monty Python and the Holy Grail</strong></p><p>Monty Python and the Holy Grail is a 1975 low budget British comedy that satirizes the legend of King Arthur. It stars the Monty Python comedy troupe in key roles: Graham Chapman, Terry Gilliam, Terry Jones, John Cleese, Michael Palin, and Eric Idle. Carol Cleveland and Sandy Johnson also star in the film. Gilliam and Jones directed the movie, and Gilliam also did the animation and artwork.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Monty Python and the Holy Grail: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Acknowledge your limitations and brainstorm creative ways to work around them.</strong> Don’t dwell on your limitations. Embrace them! Think outside the box about how you can tell your story with what you have. Monty Python thought WAY outside the box with their coconut solution, but it worked – and according to <a href="https://www.looper.com/677892/the-untold-truth-of-monty-python-and-the-holy-grail/">co-director Terry Gilliam</a>, it even helped set the stage for the film: "We would never have got through that movie with real horses,” he said. “It makes a wonderful leap, because with that opening shot you accept the kind of lunatic logic that's there." Caspian team member Dane Eckerle gives us another example from his work producing an independent film:</li></ul><p>“We could only afford stunt coordinators on a certain amount of days, which meant that a lot of the action needed to get consolidated into those days. But we wanted the action that we did have to look really good, and we didn't want to have to stretch ourselves too thin trying to cram in 50 stunts in two days. So we decided to do 10 stunts really, really well in those two days. Then we leaned into the emotion of it. And so instead of showing the action, we captured the first part of the action. And the cameras slowly push into the character’s face, and you hear the carnage.” - Dane Eckerle, Producer, and Head of Development at Caspian</p><ul><li><strong>Demonstrate self-awareness about your workaround.</strong> Emphasize your workaround to let your audience know that it was truly a choice, not some mistake or half-baked idea. They’ll feel like they’re in on your secret, and it can help create audience awareness as well. For the premiere of Monty Python and the Holy Grail, the comedy group advertised that they would give out <a href="https://www.montypython.com/film_Monty%20Python%20and%20the%20Holy%20Grail%20(1975)/15">free coconuts</a> to the first thousand people who bought tickets. The next morning, fans <a href="https://archive.org/details/pythons0000unse_c2g5/page/268/mode/2up?view=theater&q=coconuts">were lined </a>up as early as 5:30 in the morning to get their hands on a coconut!</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“I just feel like when you have the money, when you have all the resources - and this isn't to say that big movies or big commercials or big marketing campaigns are bad, but there's no limitations. There's no box that you're put in that breeds a new level of creativity or outside-the-box thinking. It's just, you do what you can or what's been done before, or what you can afford, which is anything. I think it robs a little bit of that DIY scrappy thinking. You lose a little bit of that inventiveness when you have it all. It's easier to stand out from the crowd if you're embracing your limitations.” - Dane Eckerle</p><p>*”’Do more with less’ is really interesting to me because it implies two things. Number one, that you need to do more. So, you need to push the boundaries of what you have done in the past. So if you had a million dollar budget and you achieved X results, now you need to surpass what you used to do. And then the second piece is that you have less to do it with, which means you have less physical dollars that you can invest.’ - Ian Faison</p><p>*”When you don't look at it realistically and just go, ‘Okay, this is what we got and this is how we're gonna have to work with it,’ When you fight the tide, it actually ends up looking bad. Like if you try and stretch something and make something that you really don't have any business making, everyone can feel it.” - Dane Eckerle</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[2:02] Why are we covering Monty Python and the Holy Grail?</p><p>[2:52] Tell me more about Monty Python and the Holy Grail</p><p>[4:02] Learn more about the making of the movie</p><p>[5:59] Where did the financing of Monty Python and the Holy Grail come from?</p><p>[8:20] Exactly how tight was the budget for this movie?</p><p>[9:28] Why did the troupe use coconuts for the horse sound effects?</p><p>[12:30] How do you manage being on a super tight budget?</p><p>[17:22] How does a tight budget affect creative decisions in videos or movies?</p><p>[21:25] How do you apply this to B2B marketing?</p><p>[28:23] How does NY-based clothing company Minted embrace their limitations?</p><p>[31:21] How does Bionic do more with less on their glassboard videos?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/771476">Watch “Monty Python and the Holy Grail”</a></p><p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@marcusmilione?lang=en">Check out Minted New York on TikTok</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdKXh1oFIFc">Take a look at Bionic’s glassboard videos</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@AlexWillisTV">Follow Alex Willis and see the studio Caspian Studios helped him build for Leadership Surge</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 5 Apr 2023 16:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Colin Stamps, Dane Eckerle, Ian Faison, Scott Goodrich, Rex New, Meredith O&apos;Neil)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your marketing budget is limited. It might even be bare bones.  And, believe it or not, that could be a really good thing for you.</p><p>Here’s the thing about limitations: they inspire creativity. Limited resources force you to figure out how to take advantage of what you have in order to create the most impact. When you lean into those choices, you can create something stylistically unique and compelling – and become the stuff marketing legends (and Remarkable episodes) are made of.</p><p>On this episode of Remarkable, we’re taking lessons from one of the most iconic scenes in Monty Python and the Holy Grail: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqtS9xyl0f4&t=58s">the coconut scene</a> – aka the very first scene of the movie.</p><p>For those who haven’t seen Monty Python and the Holy Grail, the movie opens with the distant sound of a galloping horse heard through thick fog. But what emerges from the fog is not a horse. It’s King Arthur skipping around on foot. His squire Patsy is following him, rhythmically knocking a pair of coconut shells together to mimic a horse’s trot.</p><p>There’s a reason this knight is using coconuts to stand in for a horse: the film couldn’t afford real horses. Instead, they improvised one of the funniest scenes in film history. They grabbed a couple of coconuts and knocked them together to sound like the gallop of a horse. This absurd yet brilliant idea is just one of the many reasons Monty Python and the Holy Grail is a cult classic. Today, we’re going to show you how you can embrace your own limitations – and hopefully create a cult following of your own.</p><p><strong>About Monty Python and the Holy Grail</strong></p><p>Monty Python and the Holy Grail is a 1975 low budget British comedy that satirizes the legend of King Arthur. It stars the Monty Python comedy troupe in key roles: Graham Chapman, Terry Gilliam, Terry Jones, John Cleese, Michael Palin, and Eric Idle. Carol Cleveland and Sandy Johnson also star in the film. Gilliam and Jones directed the movie, and Gilliam also did the animation and artwork.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Monty Python and the Holy Grail: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Acknowledge your limitations and brainstorm creative ways to work around them.</strong> Don’t dwell on your limitations. Embrace them! Think outside the box about how you can tell your story with what you have. Monty Python thought WAY outside the box with their coconut solution, but it worked – and according to <a href="https://www.looper.com/677892/the-untold-truth-of-monty-python-and-the-holy-grail/">co-director Terry Gilliam</a>, it even helped set the stage for the film: "We would never have got through that movie with real horses,” he said. “It makes a wonderful leap, because with that opening shot you accept the kind of lunatic logic that's there." Caspian team member Dane Eckerle gives us another example from his work producing an independent film:</li></ul><p>“We could only afford stunt coordinators on a certain amount of days, which meant that a lot of the action needed to get consolidated into those days. But we wanted the action that we did have to look really good, and we didn't want to have to stretch ourselves too thin trying to cram in 50 stunts in two days. So we decided to do 10 stunts really, really well in those two days. Then we leaned into the emotion of it. And so instead of showing the action, we captured the first part of the action. And the cameras slowly push into the character’s face, and you hear the carnage.” - Dane Eckerle, Producer, and Head of Development at Caspian</p><ul><li><strong>Demonstrate self-awareness about your workaround.</strong> Emphasize your workaround to let your audience know that it was truly a choice, not some mistake or half-baked idea. They’ll feel like they’re in on your secret, and it can help create audience awareness as well. For the premiere of Monty Python and the Holy Grail, the comedy group advertised that they would give out <a href="https://www.montypython.com/film_Monty%20Python%20and%20the%20Holy%20Grail%20(1975)/15">free coconuts</a> to the first thousand people who bought tickets. The next morning, fans <a href="https://archive.org/details/pythons0000unse_c2g5/page/268/mode/2up?view=theater&q=coconuts">were lined </a>up as early as 5:30 in the morning to get their hands on a coconut!</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*“I just feel like when you have the money, when you have all the resources - and this isn't to say that big movies or big commercials or big marketing campaigns are bad, but there's no limitations. There's no box that you're put in that breeds a new level of creativity or outside-the-box thinking. It's just, you do what you can or what's been done before, or what you can afford, which is anything. I think it robs a little bit of that DIY scrappy thinking. You lose a little bit of that inventiveness when you have it all. It's easier to stand out from the crowd if you're embracing your limitations.” - Dane Eckerle</p><p>*”’Do more with less’ is really interesting to me because it implies two things. Number one, that you need to do more. So, you need to push the boundaries of what you have done in the past. So if you had a million dollar budget and you achieved X results, now you need to surpass what you used to do. And then the second piece is that you have less to do it with, which means you have less physical dollars that you can invest.’ - Ian Faison</p><p>*”When you don't look at it realistically and just go, ‘Okay, this is what we got and this is how we're gonna have to work with it,’ When you fight the tide, it actually ends up looking bad. Like if you try and stretch something and make something that you really don't have any business making, everyone can feel it.” - Dane Eckerle</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[2:02] Why are we covering Monty Python and the Holy Grail?</p><p>[2:52] Tell me more about Monty Python and the Holy Grail</p><p>[4:02] Learn more about the making of the movie</p><p>[5:59] Where did the financing of Monty Python and the Holy Grail come from?</p><p>[8:20] Exactly how tight was the budget for this movie?</p><p>[9:28] Why did the troupe use coconuts for the horse sound effects?</p><p>[12:30] How do you manage being on a super tight budget?</p><p>[17:22] How does a tight budget affect creative decisions in videos or movies?</p><p>[21:25] How do you apply this to B2B marketing?</p><p>[28:23] How does NY-based clothing company Minted embrace their limitations?</p><p>[31:21] How does Bionic do more with less on their glassboard videos?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/771476">Watch “Monty Python and the Holy Grail”</a></p><p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@marcusmilione?lang=en">Check out Minted New York on TikTok</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdKXh1oFIFc">Take a look at Bionic’s glassboard videos</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@AlexWillisTV">Follow Alex Willis and see the studio Caspian Studios helped him build for Leadership Surge</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Monty Python and the Holy Grail: How to Embrace Your Limitations</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:summary>Your marketing budget is limited. It might even be bare bones.  And, believe it or not, that could be a really good thing for you.

Here’s the thing about limitations: they inspire creativity. Limited resources force you to figure out how to take advantage of what you have in order to create the most impact. When you lean into those choices, you can create something stylistically unique and compelling – and become the stuff marketing legends (and Remarkable episodes) are made of.

On this episode of Remarkable, we’re taking lessons from one of the most iconic scenes in Monty Python and the Holy Grail: the coconut scene – aka the very first scene of the movie.

For those who haven’t seen Monty Python and the Holy Grail, the movie opens with the distant sound of a galloping horse heard through thick fog. But what emerges from the fog is not a horse. It’s King Arthur skipping around on foot. His squire Patsy is following him, rhythmically knocking a pair of coconut shells together to mimic a horse’s trot.

There’s a reason this knight is using coconuts to stand in for a horse: the film couldn’t afford real horses. Instead, they improvised one of the funniest scenes in film history. They grabbed a couple of coconuts and knocked them together to sound like the gallop of a horse. This absurd yet brilliant idea is just one of the many reasons Monty Python and the Holy Grail is a cult classic. Today, we’re going to show you how you can embrace your own limitations – and hopefully create a cult following of your own.</itunes:summary>
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Here’s the thing about limitations: they inspire creativity. Limited resources force you to figure out how to take advantage of what you have in order to create the most impact. When you lean into those choices, you can create something stylistically unique and compelling – and become the stuff marketing legends (and Remarkable episodes) are made of.

On this episode of Remarkable, we’re taking lessons from one of the most iconic scenes in Monty Python and the Holy Grail: the coconut scene – aka the very first scene of the movie.

For those who haven’t seen Monty Python and the Holy Grail, the movie opens with the distant sound of a galloping horse heard through thick fog. But what emerges from the fog is not a horse. It’s King Arthur skipping around on foot. His squire Patsy is following him, rhythmically knocking a pair of coconut shells together to mimic a horse’s trot.

There’s a reason this knight is using coconuts to stand in for a horse: the film couldn’t afford real horses. Instead, they improvised one of the funniest scenes in film history. They grabbed a couple of coconuts and knocked them together to sound like the gallop of a horse. This absurd yet brilliant idea is just one of the many reasons Monty Python and the Holy Grail is a cult classic. Today, we’re going to show you how you can embrace your own limitations – and hopefully create a cult following of your own.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Succession: How to Make Cool S*** When You Have Bad Bosses</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Marketing is already pretty difficult. But when you can’t get buy-in from your boss, it becomes near-impossible. </p><p>So what happens when you have a bad boss who doesn’t understand what you’re doing? Well, you have to learn to communicate with them. You have to learn to market to them.</p><p>This week, we’re looking at HBO’s “Succession.” Its main character, Logan Roy, is about as bad of a boss as it gets. His toxic leadership drives a cruel culture of power, hunger, and cold-blooded backstabbing. But whether his employees – who are also his children – achieve their goals is another thing altogether. </p><p>Here to talk us through the marketing lessons from “Succession” is Tom Butta. Tom is a nine-time CMO and current Chief Strategy and Marketing Officer of Airship, a mobile app experience company. Aside from being a fan of “Succession,” Butta is an experienced executive who has worked to create billions of dollars of enterprise value for companies like SignalFx, Sprinklr, and RedHat. He’s also had his fair share of bad bosses.</p><p>With his help, we’re showing you how to put your message in terms your boss will understand, paint a picture of the future state, and choose the right person to pitch the idea to your boss.</p><p><strong>About “Succession”</strong></p><p>“Succession” is an HBO drama/comedy series that premiered in 2018. Its fourth and final season premieres March 26.The show stars Brian Cox as Logan Roy, with Jeremy Strong, Kieran Culkin, Alan Ruck and Sarah Snook playing his children, Kendall, Roman, Connor, and Siobhan, respectively. Matthew Macfadyen and Nicholas Braun also star in the show as fan favorites, Tom Wambsgans, Siobhan’s husband, and Greg Hirsch (lovingly known as “Cousin Greg”). </p><p>“Succession” follows the story of Logan Roy, who is the head of the media conglomerate Waystar Royco. As he surpasses his eightieth birthday, he’s considering who will take over for him. The obvious choice is his eldest son, Kendall, who struggles to solidify his place as heir. But the remaining children also vie for the top place at Waystar Royco, pitting them against each other.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From “Succession”:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Put your message in terms your boss will understand.</strong> You can rattle off whatever marketing jargon you want to your boss, but all the acronyms in the world may not be enough. Instead, you need to tailor your messaging to your boss. Learn what’s important to them, familiarize yourself with their priorities, and put things in terms your boss will understand. In “Succession,” each of the Roy children struggle to convince their father they’re the best heir for Waystar Royco – because they don’t know how to relate to him. The same thing happened to Butta: when his former employer was in danger of going out of business, Butta knew he needed to appeal to his boss with an idea to save the company. Butta did some reconnaissance to learn just what made his boss tick. Butta says he figured out that his former boss was a competitive salesman at heart – and that his boss was frustrated because his company didn’t have “a seat at the table” with big companies like Salesforce and Oracle. When he spent time talking to his boss to understand where he was coming from, Butta could then appeal to this desire in order to get him on board with the idea that ultimately saved the company from going under.</li></ul><p>“When you visualize what a future state can look like, sometimes you can feel very alone in that. And so you have to figure out a way to get others to actually not just accept the idea, but in many ways make it their own. And so that means that the way in which you approach the work is to do a couple things. One is to appeal to what matters to them, and then secondly to actually use their own vocabulary and their language as you are presenting this sort of change path.” - Tom Butta, CMO, Airship</p><ul><li><strong>Paint a picture of the future state for them.</strong> Don’t tell your boss what your idea looks like in practice – show them. Make it come to life. Butta had a vision for how to save his former company, but he needed to get his boss to agree. So he  mocked up two articles to look like they were from The Wall Street Journal. One said the company had gone bankrupt, and the other said the company rebounded. He showed the articles to his boss, presenting them as two paths forward. By painting the picture of two future states, he got his boss to change the company playbook. Butta pointed out that in “Succession,” “Nobody is pointing to an outcome. Nobody in ‘Succession’ has a path or a playbook. They’re just trying to advocate for themselves. And that’s why it fails.”</li><li><strong>Bring on a trusted partner to pitch your idea with. </strong>Behind every successful pitch is a great communicator – or two! In fact, it’s best not to do it alone. Find a partner who is whole-heartedly onboard with your pitch can confidently back you up when questions are asked. It’s also important that they’re a great public speaker – and hopefully even better than you are. Need an example? Look at Kendall Roy in “Succession.” Kendall struggles to solidify his place as successor to CEO of Waystar Royco because he’s insecure, lacks the charisma required to take on the role, and most importantly, he doesn’t have anyone to advocate for him either. Butta says, “It's not just about the idea, the logic, and the compelling evidence. It takes a certain type of an individual who can actually make it work.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”When you visualize what a future state can look like, sometimes you can feel very alone in that. And so you have to figure out a way to get others to actually not just accept the idea, but in many ways make it their own. And so that means that the way in which you approach the work is to do a couple things. One is to appeal to what matters to them, and then secondly to actually use their own vocabulary and their language as you are presenting this sort of change path.”</p><p>*”You can't present the idea of doing something. You actually have to present it. Like, you just have to show it. People don't have any imagination. And so you need to tell the story.”</p><p>*”It's not just about the idea and the logic and the compelling evidence and all of that. It takes a certain type of an individual who can actually make it work.” </p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[1:35] Introducing Tom Butta, CMO at Airship</p><p>[2:14] Learn more about Airship</p><p>[8:02] What’s “Succession” about? </p><p>[11:01] The making of “Succession”</p><p>[15:05] The keys to pitching an idea to your boss</p><p>[15:59] How do you effectively use change vocabulary?</p><p>[18:04] How to speak your boss’ language</p><p>[28:07] How do you choose the right people for your change agenda?</p><p>[30:09] How do you paint a picture of your idea for your boss?</p><p>[38:19] Why you should rethink the slide deck as your go-to presentation tool</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.hbo.com/succession">Watch “Succession”</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tombutta/">Connect with Tom on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-strategies-that-led-to-billion-dollar-acquisitions/id1522736900?i=1000489094595">Listen to Marketing Strategies that Led to Billion-Dollar Acquisitions with Tom Butta on the Demand Gen Visionaries Podcast</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marketing is already pretty difficult. But when you can’t get buy-in from your boss, it becomes near-impossible. </p><p>So what happens when you have a bad boss who doesn’t understand what you’re doing? Well, you have to learn to communicate with them. You have to learn to market to them.</p><p>This week, we’re looking at HBO’s “Succession.” Its main character, Logan Roy, is about as bad of a boss as it gets. His toxic leadership drives a cruel culture of power, hunger, and cold-blooded backstabbing. But whether his employees – who are also his children – achieve their goals is another thing altogether. </p><p>Here to talk us through the marketing lessons from “Succession” is Tom Butta. Tom is a nine-time CMO and current Chief Strategy and Marketing Officer of Airship, a mobile app experience company. Aside from being a fan of “Succession,” Butta is an experienced executive who has worked to create billions of dollars of enterprise value for companies like SignalFx, Sprinklr, and RedHat. He’s also had his fair share of bad bosses.</p><p>With his help, we’re showing you how to put your message in terms your boss will understand, paint a picture of the future state, and choose the right person to pitch the idea to your boss.</p><p><strong>About “Succession”</strong></p><p>“Succession” is an HBO drama/comedy series that premiered in 2018. Its fourth and final season premieres March 26.The show stars Brian Cox as Logan Roy, with Jeremy Strong, Kieran Culkin, Alan Ruck and Sarah Snook playing his children, Kendall, Roman, Connor, and Siobhan, respectively. Matthew Macfadyen and Nicholas Braun also star in the show as fan favorites, Tom Wambsgans, Siobhan’s husband, and Greg Hirsch (lovingly known as “Cousin Greg”). </p><p>“Succession” follows the story of Logan Roy, who is the head of the media conglomerate Waystar Royco. As he surpasses his eightieth birthday, he’s considering who will take over for him. The obvious choice is his eldest son, Kendall, who struggles to solidify his place as heir. But the remaining children also vie for the top place at Waystar Royco, pitting them against each other.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From “Succession”:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Put your message in terms your boss will understand.</strong> You can rattle off whatever marketing jargon you want to your boss, but all the acronyms in the world may not be enough. Instead, you need to tailor your messaging to your boss. Learn what’s important to them, familiarize yourself with their priorities, and put things in terms your boss will understand. In “Succession,” each of the Roy children struggle to convince their father they’re the best heir for Waystar Royco – because they don’t know how to relate to him. The same thing happened to Butta: when his former employer was in danger of going out of business, Butta knew he needed to appeal to his boss with an idea to save the company. Butta did some reconnaissance to learn just what made his boss tick. Butta says he figured out that his former boss was a competitive salesman at heart – and that his boss was frustrated because his company didn’t have “a seat at the table” with big companies like Salesforce and Oracle. When he spent time talking to his boss to understand where he was coming from, Butta could then appeal to this desire in order to get him on board with the idea that ultimately saved the company from going under.</li></ul><p>“When you visualize what a future state can look like, sometimes you can feel very alone in that. And so you have to figure out a way to get others to actually not just accept the idea, but in many ways make it their own. And so that means that the way in which you approach the work is to do a couple things. One is to appeal to what matters to them, and then secondly to actually use their own vocabulary and their language as you are presenting this sort of change path.” - Tom Butta, CMO, Airship</p><ul><li><strong>Paint a picture of the future state for them.</strong> Don’t tell your boss what your idea looks like in practice – show them. Make it come to life. Butta had a vision for how to save his former company, but he needed to get his boss to agree. So he  mocked up two articles to look like they were from The Wall Street Journal. One said the company had gone bankrupt, and the other said the company rebounded. He showed the articles to his boss, presenting them as two paths forward. By painting the picture of two future states, he got his boss to change the company playbook. Butta pointed out that in “Succession,” “Nobody is pointing to an outcome. Nobody in ‘Succession’ has a path or a playbook. They’re just trying to advocate for themselves. And that’s why it fails.”</li><li><strong>Bring on a trusted partner to pitch your idea with. </strong>Behind every successful pitch is a great communicator – or two! In fact, it’s best not to do it alone. Find a partner who is whole-heartedly onboard with your pitch can confidently back you up when questions are asked. It’s also important that they’re a great public speaker – and hopefully even better than you are. Need an example? Look at Kendall Roy in “Succession.” Kendall struggles to solidify his place as successor to CEO of Waystar Royco because he’s insecure, lacks the charisma required to take on the role, and most importantly, he doesn’t have anyone to advocate for him either. Butta says, “It's not just about the idea, the logic, and the compelling evidence. It takes a certain type of an individual who can actually make it work.”</li></ul><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>*”When you visualize what a future state can look like, sometimes you can feel very alone in that. And so you have to figure out a way to get others to actually not just accept the idea, but in many ways make it their own. And so that means that the way in which you approach the work is to do a couple things. One is to appeal to what matters to them, and then secondly to actually use their own vocabulary and their language as you are presenting this sort of change path.”</p><p>*”You can't present the idea of doing something. You actually have to present it. Like, you just have to show it. People don't have any imagination. And so you need to tell the story.”</p><p>*”It's not just about the idea and the logic and the compelling evidence and all of that. It takes a certain type of an individual who can actually make it work.” </p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[1:35] Introducing Tom Butta, CMO at Airship</p><p>[2:14] Learn more about Airship</p><p>[8:02] What’s “Succession” about? </p><p>[11:01] The making of “Succession”</p><p>[15:05] The keys to pitching an idea to your boss</p><p>[15:59] How do you effectively use change vocabulary?</p><p>[18:04] How to speak your boss’ language</p><p>[28:07] How do you choose the right people for your change agenda?</p><p>[30:09] How do you paint a picture of your idea for your boss?</p><p>[38:19] Why you should rethink the slide deck as your go-to presentation tool</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.hbo.com/succession">Watch “Succession”</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tombutta/">Connect with Tom on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-strategies-that-led-to-billion-dollar-acquisitions/id1522736900?i=1000489094595">Listen to Marketing Strategies that Led to Billion-Dollar Acquisitions with Tom Butta on the Demand Gen Visionaries Podcast</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>Marketing is already pretty difficult. But when you can’t get buy-in from your boss, it becomes near-impossible. 

So what happens when you have a bad boss who doesn’t understand what you’re doing? Well, you have to learn to communicate with them. You have to learn to market to them.

This week, we’re looking at HBO’s “Succession.” Its main character, Logan Roy, is about as bad of a boss as it gets. His toxic leadership drives a cruel culture of power, hunger, and cold-blooded backstabbing. But whether his employees – who are also his children – achieve their goals is another thing altogether. 

Here to talk us through the marketing lessons from “Succession” is Tom Butta. Tom is a nine-time CMO and current Chief Strategy and Marketing Officer of Airship, a mobile app experience company. Aside from being a fan of “Succession,” Butta is an experience executive who has worked to create billions of dollars of enterprise value for companies like SignalFx, Sprinklr, and RedHat. He’s also had his fair share of bad bosses.

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      <itunes:subtitle>Marketing is already pretty difficult. But when you can’t get buy-in from your boss, it becomes near-impossible. 

So what happens when you have a bad boss who doesn’t understand what you’re doing? Well, you have to learn to communicate with them. You have to learn to market to them.

This week, we’re looking at HBO’s “Succession.” Its main character, Logan Roy, is about as bad of a boss as it gets. His toxic leadership drives a cruel culture of power, hunger, and cold-blooded backstabbing. But whether his employees – who are also his children – achieve their goals is another thing altogether. 

Here to talk us through the marketing lessons from “Succession” is Tom Butta. Tom is a nine-time CMO and current Chief Strategy and Marketing Officer of Airship, a mobile app experience company. Aside from being a fan of “Succession,” Butta is an experience executive who has worked to create billions of dollars of enterprise value for companies like SignalFx, Sprinklr, and RedHat. He’s also had his fair share of bad bosses.

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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Humanizing your brand is one of the most difficult challenges in marketing.</p><p>But there’s a proven solution to getting people to associate your business with more than just its logo: a spokesperson.</p><p>A spokesperson is the voice and face of your company. It can’t just be anybody. You need someone with a trusted voice. Someone who can speak about your product with authenticity. Someone who can talk to your customers in the language they use. And it doesn’t have if that someone is a little charming, too.</p><p>This week, we’re taking lessons from comedic actor and entrepreneur Ryan Reynolds, who has become the face of his own brands like Aviation Gin and Mint Mobile. </p><p>Here to help us is SaaS SEO thought leader <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/liambarnes44/">Liam Barnes</a>, Head of Demand Generation and Programs at <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/bionicai/">Bionic</a>, an application security posture management platform. With Ryan and Liam by our side, we’re showing you how to choose an effective spokesperson, why hiring a celebrity isn’t so far out of reach, and why you shouldn’t gatekeep your content.</p><p><strong>About Ryan Reynolds</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.britannica.com/biography/Ryan-Reynolds">Ryan Reynolds</a> is a Canadian-American actor, producer, and entrepreneur whose career took off after he starred in <i>National Lampoon’s Van Wilder</i>. He’s also starred in <i>Waiting, Adventureland, Free Guy, </i>and the <i>Deadpool</i> franchise.</p><p>Ryan’s track record as an entrepreneur may be even more impressive than his work in film. Three businesses he has either invested in or owns have sold for incredibly impressive figures: Aviation Gin (<a href="https://www.foodandwine.com/news/ryan-reynolds-aviation-gin-sale-diageo">$610 million</a>), Mint Mobile (<a href="https://deadline.com/2023/03/ryan-reynolds-backed-mint-mobile-sold-to-t-mobile-in-billion-dollar-deal-1235300094/">$1.35 billion</a>), and film production and digital advertising agency Maximum Effort (<a href="https://www.marketingdive.com/news/mntn-acquires-ryan-reynolds-maximum-effort-in-bid-to-wed-media-creative/602484/">undisclosed</a>). He also has financial interests in the Wrexham Association Football Club, 1password, and Wealthsimple.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Ryan Reynolds:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Choose an in-house evangelist for your brand.</strong> There’s no one who knows your product better than someone who lives and breathes it on a daily basis. Your ideal evangelist is someone who can vouch for your product and speak the language of your customers – and has a stake in the business's success. Ryan Reynolds is not only the owner of Mint Mobile, but also the company’s in-house evangelist. He has the authority, investment, and understanding of the product to share the benefits of becoming a customer. And because one of Mint Mobile’s values is that they’re cheap, he highlights it by, for example, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vIN2OJKnfg">featuring his family in the ads</a> as “barely paid spokespeople.” Chances are that you already have some great brand evangelists in your B2B company. This could be a CXO with a strong social media presence who’s established as a thought leader in your industry, someone on your product team who is consistently engaging with your community in popular forums, or even the new hire who’s documenting their journey at your company.</li><li><strong>Hire a celebrity to be your company spokesperson.</strong> We love internal brand evangelists. But we also love influencer marketing, and what’s hot right now? Getting a celebrity to be the face of your brand. They’re more accessible than you think. Partnerships come at <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/accurate-pricing-negotiation-robert-strand/">a range of price points</a>, and you don’t need a mega A-lister to make a big impact. According to an article in the <a href="https://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Pages/item.aspx?num=40853&__hstc=188844020.f1561f147b842cbd6c94693ee183fb8a.1678305927668.1678305927668.1678305927668.1&__hssc=188844020.1.1678305927668&__hsfp=2366475787">Journal of Advertising Research</a>, celebrity endorsements can increase a company’s sales by an average of 4%. <a href="https://videos.pingidentity.com/detail/videos/our-company/video/6252069165001/be-a-boardroom-hero">Ping Identity hired actor and athlete Terry Crews</a> to be their “chief identity champion” for a brand awareness campaign that launched in October 2020. According to Ping Identity CMO Kevin Sellers, the company’s website traffic <a href="https://adage.com/article/cmo-interviews/how-software-firm-tapped-emotion-reshape-b-b-marketing/2320281?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_term=ad+age&utm_content=7dc2e816-1ea0-48fd-8207-c4e6aa48d048">increased 1000 percent</a> after the launch of the campaign. So dig deep into your brand’s voice and mission and find a celebrity or influencer who can embody your brand. The results speak for themselves! Bonus points if they bring a little humor into it!</li><li><strong>Make your content accessible.</strong> Distribution is key! There is a lot of great B2B content out there – but too often, companies limit their audience by gatekeeping their content. With his businesses, Reynolds takes a different approach. His businesses don’t spend heavily on advertising, but the ads they do create are funny, engaging, and accessible to everyone. The ads often go viral, further expanding their reach. (If you want to see a textbook example of what we’re talking about, check out this <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eHjifELI-k">Mint Mobile ad</a>!) And while we understand that not all B2B content can be a quirky one-minute advertisement, the key here is simple: unlock the gate. Don’t keep your best ideas in an email newsletter or in a hotel conference room. You’re limiting your audience when you do.</li></ul><p><strong>Key Quotes</strong></p><p>*“He has this sense of ownership and everything is tongue in cheek. When we're buying his stuff, we're buying a little bit of Ryan. He vouched for it. And it's just really novel, how he productizes himself. A gin is just a gin. But when Ryan Reynolds is behind it, now it means something more.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”It’s important to surround yourself with good people who are very good at their job. And with Ryan Reynolds, he has George Dewey as his business partner, who is that creative genius, that ad genius. He understands marketing, he understands culture, he understands people.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”It’s important to have someone who is likable, charismatic and engaging as the spokesperson. Someone who's very close and tied and invested into the company driving the story and driving the thought leadership of the company. Especially in security, we have a really hard time getting founders, getting evangelists, getting technical people to want to push the story forward. And it's because they just don't have that advertising expertise, the marketing expertise. They’re engineers, they're not writers. And if they were writers, they were like research-based writers, so the creativity side of it was lost. And so it's important to do both things. Partner the front running technical people in your company with solid marketers, and help them push the narrative forward. - Liam Barnes </p><p>*”Something that Ryan Reynolds understands is the distribution of the content that he's creating. He could definitely go and headline user conferences or go and do features where he goes and shows up at certain places where people ask him questions and pay attention to him for an hour. But then there's nothing after that. And something that companies get really wrong is they put all this time and energy into a user conference and then they gate it. They put it behind this paywall, or they make you give your information to them and then nobody sees it after the conference…Honestly, what most people would react more positively to is, go ahead and have the user conference, then go spend time distributing the content correctly. It's just something that's a completely missed opportunity. It's an interesting kind of dynamic that you see a lot in b2b, where everything's gated and nobody has access, and they're wondering why they're not getting the returns from it. It's because nobody ends up actually seeing it.” - Liam Barnes</p><p>“To make your ads better, make the creative more memorable and funnier. And then just put a little bit of that marketing engine behind it, retargeting and AB testing, and all the stuff that we have at our disposal to supercharge that really good creative. Because at the end of the day, if you're just promoting bad creative and boring creative, it's never going to get legs.” - Ian Faison</p><p>“It's less about trying to make your chosen spokesperson charismatic. It's more about trying to make that person relatable to who we're selling to. So our CEO and CTO are engineers and security folks. And we're selling to engineering and security folks. So I don't have to make them the most charismatic people. I just have to make them relatable. They have shared experiences with those people. They've been in security before, they've been through writing code and building systems and doing DevOps and running security teams, and doing the security research. And so just talking about those personal experiences and relating it to what those teams are going through. That's all you really need.” - Liam Barnes</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[1:31] Introducing Liam Barnes, Head of Demand Generation and Programs at Bionic</p><p>[2:13] What’s Bionic?</p><p>[4:05] Who’s Ryan Reynolds?</p><p>[5:55] What makes Ryan Reynolds an effective spokesperson?</p><p>[12:14] How did Ryan Reynolds become a marketing powerhouse?</p><p>[18:50] What can we learn about B2B marketing from Ryan Reynolds?</p><p>[23:54] How can B2B companies use celebrity spokespeople?</p><p>[36:22] How can companies make their CEO an effective spokesperson?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/why-it-pays-to-listen-with-liam-barnes-head-of/id1522736900?i=1000592038618">Listen to Demand Gen Visionaries with Liam Barnes</a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/everyday-demand-gen/id1536702724">Tune in to Everyday Demand Gen with Liam Barnes</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GV-kbo3OXU">See the Axonius x Simone Biles ad</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4eZaNVyvcc">Check out IBM Watson’s collaboration with fashion designer Gaurav Gupta</a></p><p><a href="https://shortyawards.com/2nd-socialgood/national-geographic-microsoft-makewhatsnext">Take a look at Microsoft’s collab with National Geographic in their “Make What’s Next” initiative </a></p><p><a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/business-thriller">Create your own business thriller starring an A-list celebrity</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/shorts/u0fxeCrH4VM">See Coinbase’s $7M Superbowl ad that got people talking</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Humanizing your brand is one of the most difficult challenges in marketing.</p><p>But there’s a proven solution to getting people to associate your business with more than just its logo: a spokesperson.</p><p>A spokesperson is the voice and face of your company. It can’t just be anybody. You need someone with a trusted voice. Someone who can speak about your product with authenticity. Someone who can talk to your customers in the language they use. And it doesn’t have if that someone is a little charming, too.</p><p>This week, we’re taking lessons from comedic actor and entrepreneur Ryan Reynolds, who has become the face of his own brands like Aviation Gin and Mint Mobile. </p><p>Here to help us is SaaS SEO thought leader <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/liambarnes44/">Liam Barnes</a>, Head of Demand Generation and Programs at <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/bionicai/">Bionic</a>, an application security posture management platform. With Ryan and Liam by our side, we’re showing you how to choose an effective spokesperson, why hiring a celebrity isn’t so far out of reach, and why you shouldn’t gatekeep your content.</p><p><strong>About Ryan Reynolds</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.britannica.com/biography/Ryan-Reynolds">Ryan Reynolds</a> is a Canadian-American actor, producer, and entrepreneur whose career took off after he starred in <i>National Lampoon’s Van Wilder</i>. He’s also starred in <i>Waiting, Adventureland, Free Guy, </i>and the <i>Deadpool</i> franchise.</p><p>Ryan’s track record as an entrepreneur may be even more impressive than his work in film. Three businesses he has either invested in or owns have sold for incredibly impressive figures: Aviation Gin (<a href="https://www.foodandwine.com/news/ryan-reynolds-aviation-gin-sale-diageo">$610 million</a>), Mint Mobile (<a href="https://deadline.com/2023/03/ryan-reynolds-backed-mint-mobile-sold-to-t-mobile-in-billion-dollar-deal-1235300094/">$1.35 billion</a>), and film production and digital advertising agency Maximum Effort (<a href="https://www.marketingdive.com/news/mntn-acquires-ryan-reynolds-maximum-effort-in-bid-to-wed-media-creative/602484/">undisclosed</a>). He also has financial interests in the Wrexham Association Football Club, 1password, and Wealthsimple.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Ryan Reynolds:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Choose an in-house evangelist for your brand.</strong> There’s no one who knows your product better than someone who lives and breathes it on a daily basis. Your ideal evangelist is someone who can vouch for your product and speak the language of your customers – and has a stake in the business's success. Ryan Reynolds is not only the owner of Mint Mobile, but also the company’s in-house evangelist. He has the authority, investment, and understanding of the product to share the benefits of becoming a customer. And because one of Mint Mobile’s values is that they’re cheap, he highlights it by, for example, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vIN2OJKnfg">featuring his family in the ads</a> as “barely paid spokespeople.” Chances are that you already have some great brand evangelists in your B2B company. This could be a CXO with a strong social media presence who’s established as a thought leader in your industry, someone on your product team who is consistently engaging with your community in popular forums, or even the new hire who’s documenting their journey at your company.</li><li><strong>Hire a celebrity to be your company spokesperson.</strong> We love internal brand evangelists. But we also love influencer marketing, and what’s hot right now? Getting a celebrity to be the face of your brand. They’re more accessible than you think. Partnerships come at <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/accurate-pricing-negotiation-robert-strand/">a range of price points</a>, and you don’t need a mega A-lister to make a big impact. According to an article in the <a href="https://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Pages/item.aspx?num=40853&__hstc=188844020.f1561f147b842cbd6c94693ee183fb8a.1678305927668.1678305927668.1678305927668.1&__hssc=188844020.1.1678305927668&__hsfp=2366475787">Journal of Advertising Research</a>, celebrity endorsements can increase a company’s sales by an average of 4%. <a href="https://videos.pingidentity.com/detail/videos/our-company/video/6252069165001/be-a-boardroom-hero">Ping Identity hired actor and athlete Terry Crews</a> to be their “chief identity champion” for a brand awareness campaign that launched in October 2020. According to Ping Identity CMO Kevin Sellers, the company’s website traffic <a href="https://adage.com/article/cmo-interviews/how-software-firm-tapped-emotion-reshape-b-b-marketing/2320281?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_term=ad+age&utm_content=7dc2e816-1ea0-48fd-8207-c4e6aa48d048">increased 1000 percent</a> after the launch of the campaign. So dig deep into your brand’s voice and mission and find a celebrity or influencer who can embody your brand. The results speak for themselves! Bonus points if they bring a little humor into it!</li><li><strong>Make your content accessible.</strong> Distribution is key! There is a lot of great B2B content out there – but too often, companies limit their audience by gatekeeping their content. With his businesses, Reynolds takes a different approach. His businesses don’t spend heavily on advertising, but the ads they do create are funny, engaging, and accessible to everyone. The ads often go viral, further expanding their reach. (If you want to see a textbook example of what we’re talking about, check out this <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eHjifELI-k">Mint Mobile ad</a>!) And while we understand that not all B2B content can be a quirky one-minute advertisement, the key here is simple: unlock the gate. Don’t keep your best ideas in an email newsletter or in a hotel conference room. You’re limiting your audience when you do.</li></ul><p><strong>Key Quotes</strong></p><p>*“He has this sense of ownership and everything is tongue in cheek. When we're buying his stuff, we're buying a little bit of Ryan. He vouched for it. And it's just really novel, how he productizes himself. A gin is just a gin. But when Ryan Reynolds is behind it, now it means something more.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”It’s important to surround yourself with good people who are very good at their job. And with Ryan Reynolds, he has George Dewey as his business partner, who is that creative genius, that ad genius. He understands marketing, he understands culture, he understands people.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”It’s important to have someone who is likable, charismatic and engaging as the spokesperson. Someone who's very close and tied and invested into the company driving the story and driving the thought leadership of the company. Especially in security, we have a really hard time getting founders, getting evangelists, getting technical people to want to push the story forward. And it's because they just don't have that advertising expertise, the marketing expertise. They’re engineers, they're not writers. And if they were writers, they were like research-based writers, so the creativity side of it was lost. And so it's important to do both things. Partner the front running technical people in your company with solid marketers, and help them push the narrative forward. - Liam Barnes </p><p>*”Something that Ryan Reynolds understands is the distribution of the content that he's creating. He could definitely go and headline user conferences or go and do features where he goes and shows up at certain places where people ask him questions and pay attention to him for an hour. But then there's nothing after that. And something that companies get really wrong is they put all this time and energy into a user conference and then they gate it. They put it behind this paywall, or they make you give your information to them and then nobody sees it after the conference…Honestly, what most people would react more positively to is, go ahead and have the user conference, then go spend time distributing the content correctly. It's just something that's a completely missed opportunity. It's an interesting kind of dynamic that you see a lot in b2b, where everything's gated and nobody has access, and they're wondering why they're not getting the returns from it. It's because nobody ends up actually seeing it.” - Liam Barnes</p><p>“To make your ads better, make the creative more memorable and funnier. And then just put a little bit of that marketing engine behind it, retargeting and AB testing, and all the stuff that we have at our disposal to supercharge that really good creative. Because at the end of the day, if you're just promoting bad creative and boring creative, it's never going to get legs.” - Ian Faison</p><p>“It's less about trying to make your chosen spokesperson charismatic. It's more about trying to make that person relatable to who we're selling to. So our CEO and CTO are engineers and security folks. And we're selling to engineering and security folks. So I don't have to make them the most charismatic people. I just have to make them relatable. They have shared experiences with those people. They've been in security before, they've been through writing code and building systems and doing DevOps and running security teams, and doing the security research. And so just talking about those personal experiences and relating it to what those teams are going through. That's all you really need.” - Liam Barnes</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[1:31] Introducing Liam Barnes, Head of Demand Generation and Programs at Bionic</p><p>[2:13] What’s Bionic?</p><p>[4:05] Who’s Ryan Reynolds?</p><p>[5:55] What makes Ryan Reynolds an effective spokesperson?</p><p>[12:14] How did Ryan Reynolds become a marketing powerhouse?</p><p>[18:50] What can we learn about B2B marketing from Ryan Reynolds?</p><p>[23:54] How can B2B companies use celebrity spokespeople?</p><p>[36:22] How can companies make their CEO an effective spokesperson?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/why-it-pays-to-listen-with-liam-barnes-head-of/id1522736900?i=1000592038618">Listen to Demand Gen Visionaries with Liam Barnes</a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/everyday-demand-gen/id1536702724">Tune in to Everyday Demand Gen with Liam Barnes</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GV-kbo3OXU">See the Axonius x Simone Biles ad</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4eZaNVyvcc">Check out IBM Watson’s collaboration with fashion designer Gaurav Gupta</a></p><p><a href="https://shortyawards.com/2nd-socialgood/national-geographic-microsoft-makewhatsnext">Take a look at Microsoft’s collab with National Geographic in their “Make What’s Next” initiative </a></p><p><a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/business-thriller">Create your own business thriller starring an A-list celebrity</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/shorts/u0fxeCrH4VM">See Coinbase’s $7M Superbowl ad that got people talking</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>Humanizing your brand is one of the most difficult challenges in marketing.

But there’s a proven solution to getting people to associate your business with more than just its logo: a spokesperson.
A spokesperson is the voice and face of your company. It can’t just be anybody. You need someone with a trusted voice. Someone who can speak about your product with authenticity. Someone who can talk to your customers in the language they use. And it doesn’t have if that someone is a little charming, too.

This week, we’re taking lessons from comedic actor and entrepreneur Ryan Reynolds, who has become the face of his own brands like Aviation Gin and Mint Mobile. 

Here to help us is SaaS SEO thought leader Liam Barnes, Head of Demand Generation and Programs at Bionic, an application security posture management platform. With Ryan and Liam by our side, we’re showing you how to choose an effective spokesperson, why hiring a celebrity isn’t so far out of reach, and why you shouldn’t gatekeep your content.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Humanizing your brand is one of the most difficult challenges in marketing.

But there’s a proven solution to getting people to associate your business with more than just its logo: a spokesperson.
A spokesperson is the voice and face of your company. It can’t just be anybody. You need someone with a trusted voice. Someone who can speak about your product with authenticity. Someone who can talk to your customers in the language they use. And it doesn’t have if that someone is a little charming, too.

This week, we’re taking lessons from comedic actor and entrepreneur Ryan Reynolds, who has become the face of his own brands like Aviation Gin and Mint Mobile. 

Here to help us is SaaS SEO thought leader Liam Barnes, Head of Demand Generation and Programs at Bionic, an application security posture management platform. With Ryan and Liam by our side, we’re showing you how to choose an effective spokesperson, why hiring a celebrity isn’t so far out of reach, and why you shouldn’t gatekeep your content.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Ted Lasso: How to Use Surprise and Delight in Your B2B Marketing</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>What do the best marketers and coaches have in common? It’s not an emphasis on wins and losses.</p><p>They’re good listeners.</p><p>If you want to make an impact on your audience, you’ve got to get to know them and engage with them. And today, we’re taking hints from one of the best listeners out there: Ted Lasso himself. We’re coaching you on social listening and incorporating creative details into your UX. </p><p>Forget about trying to sell to your audience for a minute. We realize this is counterintuitive for marketers. But marketing isn’t only about selling — we’re going to show you why it’s worthwhile to get to know your audience as more than just customers. To engage with and entertain them on their favorite platforms, and to show them appreciation through little moments of surprise and delight.</p><p>This week, we’re reining in “Ted Lasso.” So don’t bring an umbrella to the brainstorm. Because we’re coaching you on social listening, incorporating creative details in your UX, and building in elements of edu-taining in your B2B marketing.</p><p><strong>About “Ted Lasso”</strong></p><p>“Ted Lasso” is a comedy series about an unwaveringly positive and wholesome American football coach played by Jason Sudeikis who gets hired to coach a British soccer team, fictional team AFC Richmond. The series has run for two seasons which aired in 2021 and 2022, and its third season will air this spring. It also stars Brendan Hunt as Coach Beard and Hannah Waddingham as Rebecca Welton.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From “Ted Lasso”: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Use social listening to learn about your customers as people.</strong> Learn what matters to your customers by tuning into their Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, and other social platforms. Then, use that information to personalize their customer experience. A little surprise and delight goes a long way! Here’s an example: at Brandweek 2019, experience management company <a href="https://www.adweek.com/performance-marketing/the-qualtrics-dream-team-fulfilled-popeyes-chicken-sandwich-needs-and-more/">Qualtrics</a> asked conference attendees to tweet them a wish that the company’s Dream Team would deliver in real time. And deliver they did. Whether it was a fishbowl margarita, a Popeyes chicken sandwich, a comfy pillow, or a fresh pair of Nikes, guests were surprised and delighted to see their wishes come true at the conference. By doing so, Qualtrics catered to their guests, got them talking, and created a lasting impression that would inspire diehard customer loyalty. Internet provider Spectrum also monitors Twitter for messages by customers, responding to tweets about outages and offering to help restore services. As for Ted Lasso, listening is like his superpower. Players mentioned that the water pressure in the locker room showers was “rubbish”, so Lasso repaired it. A seemingly simple gesture reminded players that he was listening and cared about their experience.</li><li><strong>Build small details into your UX to bring your customers joy.</strong><br />In the first season of “Ted Lasso,” Ted bakes shortbread cookies for his boss Rebecca. It’s a small gesture that gives the two a chance to connect – and it’s a powerful lesson for your UX. Baking in these little moments to build connection is essential. When you complete a task on Asana, a unicorn flies across the screen – and that simple animation gives a straightforward project management tool a sense of personality and whimsy that isn’t easily replicated. In your B2B marketing, incorporate personalized touches into your website that speak to your brand and values. </li></ul><p><strong>Key Quotes</strong></p><p>“Everyone loves random acts of kindness. And when it comes to marketing, it's the same thing. Like if a brand is able to show that they understand the wants and needs of their customers, they can gain that customer loyalty. And that's where surprise and delight come in. Like if they execute a surprise and delight idea really well, customers are more likely to be brand advocates and stick with the brand, especially on social media. So using surprise and delight helps increase brand awareness but also companies can use it as a retention strategy.” - Anagha Das</p><p>“Companies now are using the power of social listening to really understand where their customers are, what they're super interested in, what they're listening to, what they're watching, what trends they're really into that are not related to the company at all. It's literally just like, what are your customers into? And like, how can you play into that to show that you're listening and that you understand your audience and show that you care and want to do something that makes them feel good about whatever they're passionate about.” - Anagha Das</p><p>“It's really just becoming a little bit more human and thoughtful about your audience, and realizing that everyone doesn't wanna be sold to 24/7. And I think surprising and delighting your audience, even for a B2B audience, it can be as easy as, ‘All right, today, we're not gonna post promotional stuff on LinkedIn. We're gonna just send out like a have a great day post.’ Like it's something as simple as that. Just to show that there's people behind the brand and they're acknowledging their audience as people as well.“ - Colin Stamps</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[5:13] Tell me more about “Ted Lasso”</p><p>[6:20] Learn about the marketing behind “Ted Lasso”</p><p>[8:44] How does Ted Lasso use surprise and delight?</p><p>[15:28] What can B2B marketers learn about using surprise and delight in their marketing?</p><p>[17:00] What’s social listening? And how are companies using it to tune into trends in their customer base?</p><p>[22:38] What are simple ways you can use surprise and delight in your B2B marketing?</p><p>[27:58] What can we learn about marketing from the “dart scene” in “Ted Lasso”?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/ted-lasso/umc.cmc.vtoh0mn0xn7t3c643xqonfzy">Watch Ted Lasso</a></p><p><a href="https://www.adweek.com/performance-marketing/the-qualtrics-dream-team-fulfilled-popeyes-chicken-sandwich-needs-and-more/">Check out how the Qualtrics Dream Team delivered Popeyes, a dog, a margarita, and more to their event attendees</a></p><p><a href="https://zapier.com/blog/asana-celebrations/">See Asana’s Celebration Critters that emerge when a task is completed</a></p><p><a href="https://fortune.com/2022/06/17/chewy-dog-personal-gifts-viral-tweet-pet-paintings/">Read tales (pun intended) of Chewy’s epic customer service</a></p><p><a href="https://www.customink.com/help_center/custominks-money-back-guarantee">Learn more about Custom Ink’s unusual money back guarantee on customized goods</a>  </p><p><a href="https://sproutsocial.com/insights/surprise-and-delight/">Find out more about social listening and how it could benefit your business</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 8 Mar 2023 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Colin Stamps, Ian Faison, Anagha Das, Rex New, Dane Eckerle, Meredith O&apos;Neil, Scott Goodrich)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do the best marketers and coaches have in common? It’s not an emphasis on wins and losses.</p><p>They’re good listeners.</p><p>If you want to make an impact on your audience, you’ve got to get to know them and engage with them. And today, we’re taking hints from one of the best listeners out there: Ted Lasso himself. We’re coaching you on social listening and incorporating creative details into your UX. </p><p>Forget about trying to sell to your audience for a minute. We realize this is counterintuitive for marketers. But marketing isn’t only about selling — we’re going to show you why it’s worthwhile to get to know your audience as more than just customers. To engage with and entertain them on their favorite platforms, and to show them appreciation through little moments of surprise and delight.</p><p>This week, we’re reining in “Ted Lasso.” So don’t bring an umbrella to the brainstorm. Because we’re coaching you on social listening, incorporating creative details in your UX, and building in elements of edu-taining in your B2B marketing.</p><p><strong>About “Ted Lasso”</strong></p><p>“Ted Lasso” is a comedy series about an unwaveringly positive and wholesome American football coach played by Jason Sudeikis who gets hired to coach a British soccer team, fictional team AFC Richmond. The series has run for two seasons which aired in 2021 and 2022, and its third season will air this spring. It also stars Brendan Hunt as Coach Beard and Hannah Waddingham as Rebecca Welton.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From “Ted Lasso”: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Use social listening to learn about your customers as people.</strong> Learn what matters to your customers by tuning into their Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, and other social platforms. Then, use that information to personalize their customer experience. A little surprise and delight goes a long way! Here’s an example: at Brandweek 2019, experience management company <a href="https://www.adweek.com/performance-marketing/the-qualtrics-dream-team-fulfilled-popeyes-chicken-sandwich-needs-and-more/">Qualtrics</a> asked conference attendees to tweet them a wish that the company’s Dream Team would deliver in real time. And deliver they did. Whether it was a fishbowl margarita, a Popeyes chicken sandwich, a comfy pillow, or a fresh pair of Nikes, guests were surprised and delighted to see their wishes come true at the conference. By doing so, Qualtrics catered to their guests, got them talking, and created a lasting impression that would inspire diehard customer loyalty. Internet provider Spectrum also monitors Twitter for messages by customers, responding to tweets about outages and offering to help restore services. As for Ted Lasso, listening is like his superpower. Players mentioned that the water pressure in the locker room showers was “rubbish”, so Lasso repaired it. A seemingly simple gesture reminded players that he was listening and cared about their experience.</li><li><strong>Build small details into your UX to bring your customers joy.</strong><br />In the first season of “Ted Lasso,” Ted bakes shortbread cookies for his boss Rebecca. It’s a small gesture that gives the two a chance to connect – and it’s a powerful lesson for your UX. Baking in these little moments to build connection is essential. When you complete a task on Asana, a unicorn flies across the screen – and that simple animation gives a straightforward project management tool a sense of personality and whimsy that isn’t easily replicated. In your B2B marketing, incorporate personalized touches into your website that speak to your brand and values. </li></ul><p><strong>Key Quotes</strong></p><p>“Everyone loves random acts of kindness. And when it comes to marketing, it's the same thing. Like if a brand is able to show that they understand the wants and needs of their customers, they can gain that customer loyalty. And that's where surprise and delight come in. Like if they execute a surprise and delight idea really well, customers are more likely to be brand advocates and stick with the brand, especially on social media. So using surprise and delight helps increase brand awareness but also companies can use it as a retention strategy.” - Anagha Das</p><p>“Companies now are using the power of social listening to really understand where their customers are, what they're super interested in, what they're listening to, what they're watching, what trends they're really into that are not related to the company at all. It's literally just like, what are your customers into? And like, how can you play into that to show that you're listening and that you understand your audience and show that you care and want to do something that makes them feel good about whatever they're passionate about.” - Anagha Das</p><p>“It's really just becoming a little bit more human and thoughtful about your audience, and realizing that everyone doesn't wanna be sold to 24/7. And I think surprising and delighting your audience, even for a B2B audience, it can be as easy as, ‘All right, today, we're not gonna post promotional stuff on LinkedIn. We're gonna just send out like a have a great day post.’ Like it's something as simple as that. Just to show that there's people behind the brand and they're acknowledging their audience as people as well.“ - Colin Stamps</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[5:13] Tell me more about “Ted Lasso”</p><p>[6:20] Learn about the marketing behind “Ted Lasso”</p><p>[8:44] How does Ted Lasso use surprise and delight?</p><p>[15:28] What can B2B marketers learn about using surprise and delight in their marketing?</p><p>[17:00] What’s social listening? And how are companies using it to tune into trends in their customer base?</p><p>[22:38] What are simple ways you can use surprise and delight in your B2B marketing?</p><p>[27:58] What can we learn about marketing from the “dart scene” in “Ted Lasso”?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/ted-lasso/umc.cmc.vtoh0mn0xn7t3c643xqonfzy">Watch Ted Lasso</a></p><p><a href="https://www.adweek.com/performance-marketing/the-qualtrics-dream-team-fulfilled-popeyes-chicken-sandwich-needs-and-more/">Check out how the Qualtrics Dream Team delivered Popeyes, a dog, a margarita, and more to their event attendees</a></p><p><a href="https://zapier.com/blog/asana-celebrations/">See Asana’s Celebration Critters that emerge when a task is completed</a></p><p><a href="https://fortune.com/2022/06/17/chewy-dog-personal-gifts-viral-tweet-pet-paintings/">Read tales (pun intended) of Chewy’s epic customer service</a></p><p><a href="https://www.customink.com/help_center/custominks-money-back-guarantee">Learn more about Custom Ink’s unusual money back guarantee on customized goods</a>  </p><p><a href="https://sproutsocial.com/insights/surprise-and-delight/">Find out more about social listening and how it could benefit your business</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>What do the best marketers and coaches have in common? It’s not an emphasis on wins and losses.

They’re good listeners.

If you want to make an impact on your audience, you’ve got to get to know them and engage with them. And today, we’re taking hints from one of the best listeners out there: Ted Lasso himself. We’re coaching you on social listening and incorporating creative details into your UX. 

Forget about trying to sell to your audience for a minute. We realize this is counterintuitive for marketers. But marketing isn’t only about selling — we’re going to show you why it’s worthwhile to get to know your audience as more than just customers. To engage with and entertain them on their favorite platforms, and to show them appreciation through little moments of surprise and delight.

This week, we’re reining in “Ted Lasso.” So don’t bring an umbrella to the brainstorm. Because we’re coaching you on social listening, incorporating creative details in your UX, and building in elements of edu-taining in your B2B marketing.</itunes:summary>
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They’re good listeners.

If you want to make an impact on your audience, you’ve got to get to know them and engage with them. And today, we’re taking hints from one of the best listeners out there: Ted Lasso himself. We’re coaching you on social listening and incorporating creative details into your UX. 

Forget about trying to sell to your audience for a minute. We realize this is counterintuitive for marketers. But marketing isn’t only about selling — we’re going to show you why it’s worthwhile to get to know your audience as more than just customers. To engage with and entertain them on their favorite platforms, and to show them appreciation through little moments of surprise and delight.

This week, we’re reining in “Ted Lasso.” So don’t bring an umbrella to the brainstorm. Because we’re coaching you on social listening, incorporating creative details in your UX, and building in elements of edu-taining in your B2B marketing.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Schitt’s Creek: How to Write Relatable Characters into Your B2B Marketing Campaigns</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>It’s easy to think of the people in your ad as characters that exist in those 15 seconds alone. But you can create a stronger bond with your brand by focusing on what those characters are like outside those fifteen seconds. But creating multi-dimensional characters is easier said than done. </p><p>This week, we’re taking a page out of “Schitt’s Creek.” We’re exploring the roles of relationships, flaws, and real-life experiences in relatable character building for your B2B marketing.</p><p><strong>About “Schitt’s Creek”</strong></p><p>“Schitt’s Creek” is a Canadian TV sitcom created, written and executive produced by Dan Levy and his father Eugene Levy. The show aired from 2015 - 2020 and starred Eugene Levy, Catherine O’Hara, Annie Murphy and Dan Levy.</p><p>The story follows the wealthy and privileged Rose family, who suddenly find themselves broke after their business manager was convicted of fraud. The IRS stripped the Rose family of all of their assets, except one: the small town of Schitt’s Creek, which they had only purchased as a joke years earlier.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From “Schitt’s Creek”: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Find inspiration from real-life experiences.</strong> “Relatability” is a subjective term – some people might relate to certain things, while others might shudder at them. But there’s no better shortcut to capturing your audience’s attention than drawing from actual experiences. <a href="https://www.insider.com/cool-things-to-know-about-schitts-creek-fun-facts#when-developing-schitts-creek-dan-was-partially-inspired-by-keeping-up-with-the-kardashians-4">Schitt’s Creek was inspired by the lives of the ultra rich</a>, particularly families like the Kardashians. They even drew inspiration from actress Kim Basinger, who once bought a small town in Georgia – only to go bankrupt. But the emotional core of “Schitt’s Creek” was something very personal to Dan Levy: his own personal experience of coming out. When describing writing the show, Dan puts it better than we ever could: <a href="https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/daniel-levy-interview-schitts-creek-1234571257/">“I just wanted to write something that I had experienced, and that people could relate to.”</a></li><li><strong>Reveal your characters’ flaws.</strong> Don’t make them too perfect. Exposing the full spectrum of human traits makes it that much easier for your audience to say, “Oh, I’ve done that before,” or “I’ve felt that way before.” Like <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR3Plv8HuNk&t=63s">how self-absorbed the Roses are</a>, the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_acAHyAKuI&t=9s">sibling bickering between David and Alexis</a>, and <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TMrciKhhkk&t=63s">Moira’s detachment from those around her</a>. But it’s also balanced by <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W_x35cWyKw&t=1146s">authentic emotional journeys</a> for each one of them through the six seasons. So by the end of the show, they’re all much closer, much more likable human beings. A complex, real person includes the good, the bad, and the ugly. </li><li><strong>Develop relationships between characters.</strong> Give them depth by exploring the dynamics with other cast members. Close characters may have nicknames for each other while others may have unsettled drama. By giving them a past and a future, you’re extending their believability past the ad itself. From David and Stevie being frenemies to Alexis and Mutt’s romance, the ever-shifting interpersonal ties explore universal themes like love and friendship that anyone can relate to. Look at <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e359jWSGMVg&t=24s">how Zendesk highlighted their customer relationships  </a>through this ad styled like the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzi2G68CMiE">couples interviews in When Harry Met Sally</a>. Or at how <a href="https://vimeo.com/123855579?embedded=true&source=vimeo_logo&owner=405053">Adobe showed the relationships among people in their supply chain</a>. By doing so, the characters and world they exist in feel a lot more realistic and multi-dimensional.</li></ul><p><strong>Key Quotes</strong></p><p>*”[The Roses] exaggerate and accentuate some of the traits that we can find in ourselves. Like some of the things they say are the things we do. We're like, ‘Ooh, I've done this before.’ In a way they're very human. And I think you see all their flaws and how they interact with each other, like the brother-sister relationship, the mom-son relationship. I think we can relate a lot to those moments and it makes it funny.” - Gwen Lafage</p><p>*”When David Rose becomes friends with Stevie and they have this frenemy relationship, you're just like, ‘We have all been there,’ where you're a stranger in a new place and you need to make a friend, and there's one other person who, it turns out, is kind of like you, and maybe you don't like him at first, and then you grow to be friends together. And I feel like it's just such a part of the human condition to be an outsider. And they've never been outsiders in their entire life. And so when you are an outsider and you just get that first friend, it matters so much. You can see those friendships matter more to them than all the money that they used to have.” - Ian Faison</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[1:32] Tell me more about Schitt’s Creek</p><p>[3:06] How did Dan Levy come up with the idea for Schitt’s Creek?</p><p>[5:37] What makes Schitt’s Creek characters relatable?</p><p>[9:35] How does the planning behind the six seasons set up the characters for an authentic emotional journey?</p><p>[15:58] How do you make B2B content relatable through your characters</p><p>[20:34] Examples of relatable characters in B2B marketing campaigns</p><p>[28:06] How to build out a character’s story to make them feel real</p><p>[30:58] What have we learned about using relatable characters in B2B marketing?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.hulu.com/series/schitts-creek-a2e7a946-9652-48a8-884b-3ea7ea4de273">Watch Schitt’s Creek</a></p><p>Look at <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e359jWSGMVg&t=24s">how Zendesk highlighted their customer relationships</a></p><p>Check out how <a href="https://vimeo.com/123855579?embedded=true&source=vimeo_logo&owner=405053">Adobe showed the relationships among people in their supply chain</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2023 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Ian Faison, Anagha Das, Meredith O&apos;Neil, Rex New, Scott Goodrich)</author>
      <link>https://www.caspianstudios.com/remarkable</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s easy to think of the people in your ad as characters that exist in those 15 seconds alone. But you can create a stronger bond with your brand by focusing on what those characters are like outside those fifteen seconds. But creating multi-dimensional characters is easier said than done. </p><p>This week, we’re taking a page out of “Schitt’s Creek.” We’re exploring the roles of relationships, flaws, and real-life experiences in relatable character building for your B2B marketing.</p><p><strong>About “Schitt’s Creek”</strong></p><p>“Schitt’s Creek” is a Canadian TV sitcom created, written and executive produced by Dan Levy and his father Eugene Levy. The show aired from 2015 - 2020 and starred Eugene Levy, Catherine O’Hara, Annie Murphy and Dan Levy.</p><p>The story follows the wealthy and privileged Rose family, who suddenly find themselves broke after their business manager was convicted of fraud. The IRS stripped the Rose family of all of their assets, except one: the small town of Schitt’s Creek, which they had only purchased as a joke years earlier.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From “Schitt’s Creek”: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Find inspiration from real-life experiences.</strong> “Relatability” is a subjective term – some people might relate to certain things, while others might shudder at them. But there’s no better shortcut to capturing your audience’s attention than drawing from actual experiences. <a href="https://www.insider.com/cool-things-to-know-about-schitts-creek-fun-facts#when-developing-schitts-creek-dan-was-partially-inspired-by-keeping-up-with-the-kardashians-4">Schitt’s Creek was inspired by the lives of the ultra rich</a>, particularly families like the Kardashians. They even drew inspiration from actress Kim Basinger, who once bought a small town in Georgia – only to go bankrupt. But the emotional core of “Schitt’s Creek” was something very personal to Dan Levy: his own personal experience of coming out. When describing writing the show, Dan puts it better than we ever could: <a href="https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/daniel-levy-interview-schitts-creek-1234571257/">“I just wanted to write something that I had experienced, and that people could relate to.”</a></li><li><strong>Reveal your characters’ flaws.</strong> Don’t make them too perfect. Exposing the full spectrum of human traits makes it that much easier for your audience to say, “Oh, I’ve done that before,” or “I’ve felt that way before.” Like <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR3Plv8HuNk&t=63s">how self-absorbed the Roses are</a>, the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_acAHyAKuI&t=9s">sibling bickering between David and Alexis</a>, and <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TMrciKhhkk&t=63s">Moira’s detachment from those around her</a>. But it’s also balanced by <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W_x35cWyKw&t=1146s">authentic emotional journeys</a> for each one of them through the six seasons. So by the end of the show, they’re all much closer, much more likable human beings. A complex, real person includes the good, the bad, and the ugly. </li><li><strong>Develop relationships between characters.</strong> Give them depth by exploring the dynamics with other cast members. Close characters may have nicknames for each other while others may have unsettled drama. By giving them a past and a future, you’re extending their believability past the ad itself. From David and Stevie being frenemies to Alexis and Mutt’s romance, the ever-shifting interpersonal ties explore universal themes like love and friendship that anyone can relate to. Look at <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e359jWSGMVg&t=24s">how Zendesk highlighted their customer relationships  </a>through this ad styled like the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzi2G68CMiE">couples interviews in When Harry Met Sally</a>. Or at how <a href="https://vimeo.com/123855579?embedded=true&source=vimeo_logo&owner=405053">Adobe showed the relationships among people in their supply chain</a>. By doing so, the characters and world they exist in feel a lot more realistic and multi-dimensional.</li></ul><p><strong>Key Quotes</strong></p><p>*”[The Roses] exaggerate and accentuate some of the traits that we can find in ourselves. Like some of the things they say are the things we do. We're like, ‘Ooh, I've done this before.’ In a way they're very human. And I think you see all their flaws and how they interact with each other, like the brother-sister relationship, the mom-son relationship. I think we can relate a lot to those moments and it makes it funny.” - Gwen Lafage</p><p>*”When David Rose becomes friends with Stevie and they have this frenemy relationship, you're just like, ‘We have all been there,’ where you're a stranger in a new place and you need to make a friend, and there's one other person who, it turns out, is kind of like you, and maybe you don't like him at first, and then you grow to be friends together. And I feel like it's just such a part of the human condition to be an outsider. And they've never been outsiders in their entire life. And so when you are an outsider and you just get that first friend, it matters so much. You can see those friendships matter more to them than all the money that they used to have.” - Ian Faison</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[1:32] Tell me more about Schitt’s Creek</p><p>[3:06] How did Dan Levy come up with the idea for Schitt’s Creek?</p><p>[5:37] What makes Schitt’s Creek characters relatable?</p><p>[9:35] How does the planning behind the six seasons set up the characters for an authentic emotional journey?</p><p>[15:58] How do you make B2B content relatable through your characters</p><p>[20:34] Examples of relatable characters in B2B marketing campaigns</p><p>[28:06] How to build out a character’s story to make them feel real</p><p>[30:58] What have we learned about using relatable characters in B2B marketing?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.hulu.com/series/schitts-creek-a2e7a946-9652-48a8-884b-3ea7ea4de273">Watch Schitt’s Creek</a></p><p>Look at <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e359jWSGMVg&t=24s">how Zendesk highlighted their customer relationships</a></p><p>Check out how <a href="https://vimeo.com/123855579?embedded=true&source=vimeo_logo&owner=405053">Adobe showed the relationships among people in their supply chain</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Marketers are always focused on what’s next. We’re constantly planning the next campaign, predicting trends, and conducting research. Always onward! </p><p>But there’s a critical piece of content from the past that you’re probably overlooking: your company’s origin story. It’s a powerful tool you can leverage to detail your company’s mission and align customers with your values to get deeper buy-in and drive sales.</p><p>This week, we’re taking inspiration from the origin story that launched an entire cinematic universe: the origin story of Marvel’s Iron Man. We’re showing you how to apply the structure of the hero’s journey to your company’s origin story so that your customers become superfans.</p><p><strong>About Marvel’s “Iron Man”</strong></p><p>Iron Man is a 2008 superhero movie based on the Marvel comic book character created by Stan Lee. The film stars Robert Downey, Jr., as Tony Stark, Gweneth Paltrow as his personal assistant Pepper Potts, Terrence Howard as James Rhodes, and Jeff Bridges as Obadiah Stane. </p><p>The storyline follows rich businessman and inventor Tony Stark after he’s kidnapped and forced to build a deadly weapon. Instead, he builds himself a high-tech suit and escapes – only to uncover an evil plot to cause devastation around the world. He then vows to fight evil as Iron Man.</p><p><strong>The Hero’s Journey</strong></p><p>The hero’s journey is a narrative structure in which a character goes on an adventure, faces a crisis, comes away victorious, and returns having undergone a transformation. Author Joseph Campbell analyzed the hero’s journey in his seminal 1949 book, “The Hero with a Thousand Faces.” He defined a hero as “someone who has given his or her life to something bigger than oneself.” This structure is one as old as storytelling itself; it has been used from The Odyssey to Star War to Harry Potter – and Iron Man, of course!</p><p>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Marvel’s “Iron Man”: </p><ul><li><strong>Share your company’s origin story.</strong> Attract your ideal customers by showcasing your company’s journey. Telling your story demonstrates your company’s mission and fundamental values, and most importantly, it helps you distinguish yourself from your competition. This is especially important as consumers trend towards <a href="https://www.forrester.com/blogs/the-power-of-the-values-based-consumer-and-of-authentic-brand-values/">aligning their values with their spending</a>. How does this apply to Iron Man? We wouldn’t appreciate his character without seeing his growth from self-absorbed jerk to the selfless hero he becomes. Even though Iron Man is a billionaire genius living in a Malibu mansion, we are invested in his compelling emotional arc.</li><li><strong>Show both the successes and the struggles.</strong> Let’s be real. Starting a company isn’t easy. It’s a journey – and dare we say it, a Hero’s Journey! But part of the Hero’s Journey is that you will make mistakes – and no one is immune from this. For example, back in 2015, <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/av/entertainment-arts-33226719">Apple got negative publicity – notably from Taylor Swift</a> – for offering a free one-month trial of streaming in which artists wouldn’t receive royalties. Apple’s SVP of Internet Software and Services tweeted an apology: “#AppleMusic will pay artists for streaming, even during customer’s free trial period,” and, “We hear you @taylorswift13 and indie artists. Love, Apple.” Not long after, <a href="https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/taylor-swift-strikes-sweet-deal-with-apple/news-story/ee727e401b9a18c02ec78dbbb57d07df">Taylor Swift struck a deal with Apple</a> to stream her latest tour exclusively on the platform. Apple owned up to their mistakes quickly and transparently, allowing them to be on the public’s (and Taylor Swift’s) good side again. But being transparent about your values also means living up to them as well. The founders of tech company Basecamp have made improving work culture an integral component of their brand. They have published five books related to the topic and make resources like their company handbook publicly available. “<a href="https://peterfraedrich.medium.com/basecamp-a-cautionary-tale-in-company-culture-efd202f2442f">Treating people right is fundamental to how we do business</a>,” they write on their website. However, their actions didn’t line up with their values. A <a href="https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/27/22406673/basecamp-political-speech-policy-controversy">third of their employees resigned</a> after Basecamp put in place a policy banning “societal and political discussions.” The takeaway? Posting your values on your website is only one step. Living up to them is even more important. And if you fall short of your standards? Apologize and make it right. That’s <a href="https://world.hey.com/jason/an-update-303f2f99">what Basecamp did</a>.</li><li><strong>Keep telling your story.</strong> Every time you make a big decision, make sure it aligns with the values embedded in your origin story. Communicate your reasoning with your audience. Your transparency will strengthen your audience’s trust in you – and help you continue to build a loyal group of sidekicks!</li></ul><p><strong>Key Quotes</strong></p><p>*”With business storytelling, we focus on the timeline of accomplishments and not the thought and the rigor, the difficulties and the struggles that go into those middle pieces because we don't want to air dirty laundry. But if you illuminate the process a little bit more, you'd get a richer story.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”Another element to explaining what your mission is and bringing people on that mission is bringing them on the journey with you and continuously giving them updates on things from a business perspective. I like when there's an emotional connection between me and the brand. And a lot of times a good way to do that is through social media, for example. So, like I use Canva, as an example. And I follow them on LinkedIn. It's the only business account that I follow on LinkedIn. And I actually care what they post because I feel like I'm going on a journey with them. You feel like you're a part of it. And I think that's a really key element to building a relationship with your audience.” - Colin Stamps</p><p>“If you anchor back to your origin, it shows the reason for your mission. This is why we have these values as a company. This is why we believe in the vision that we're trying to achieve, is having this foundational element of a company that we set out to solve. It feeds into a future looking assessment of where you want to be. And that's why the origin story is so important.“ - Ian Faison</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[1:30] Tell me more about Iron Man</p><p>[4:14] The backstory behind the creation of the 2008 movie</p><p>[7:28] What can I learn about telling my origin story from Marvel?</p><p>[11:31] Why is it important to share my company’s origin story?</p><p>[14:39] Do I need to share the messier side of the origin story? Why?</p><p>[16:37] I already have a timeline sharing my company’s story. That’s enough, right?</p><p>[19:54] So what framework should I use?</p><p>[21:41] How does the origin story apply to marketing?</p><p>[22:47] What are some examples of the origin story in marketing?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.94a9f7c1-cbcf-da56-dc31-8e00a4f14a63/ref=atv_pr_sw_sc?autoplay=0">Watch Marvel’s Iron Man</a></p><p><a href="https://www.masterclass.com/articles/writing-101-what-is-the-heros-journey">What’s the Hero’s Journey?</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/canva/">See how Canva connects with customers on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://investors.dicks.com/about-us/default.aspx">Read Dick’s Sporting Goods origin story</a></p><p><a href="https://www.rei.com/blog/camp/rei-history-it-started-with-an-ice-axe">See how an ice axe inspired the founding of REI</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marketers are always focused on what’s next. We’re constantly planning the next campaign, predicting trends, and conducting research. Always onward! </p><p>But there’s a critical piece of content from the past that you’re probably overlooking: your company’s origin story. It’s a powerful tool you can leverage to detail your company’s mission and align customers with your values to get deeper buy-in and drive sales.</p><p>This week, we’re taking inspiration from the origin story that launched an entire cinematic universe: the origin story of Marvel’s Iron Man. We’re showing you how to apply the structure of the hero’s journey to your company’s origin story so that your customers become superfans.</p><p><strong>About Marvel’s “Iron Man”</strong></p><p>Iron Man is a 2008 superhero movie based on the Marvel comic book character created by Stan Lee. The film stars Robert Downey, Jr., as Tony Stark, Gweneth Paltrow as his personal assistant Pepper Potts, Terrence Howard as James Rhodes, and Jeff Bridges as Obadiah Stane. </p><p>The storyline follows rich businessman and inventor Tony Stark after he’s kidnapped and forced to build a deadly weapon. Instead, he builds himself a high-tech suit and escapes – only to uncover an evil plot to cause devastation around the world. He then vows to fight evil as Iron Man.</p><p><strong>The Hero’s Journey</strong></p><p>The hero’s journey is a narrative structure in which a character goes on an adventure, faces a crisis, comes away victorious, and returns having undergone a transformation. Author Joseph Campbell analyzed the hero’s journey in his seminal 1949 book, “The Hero with a Thousand Faces.” He defined a hero as “someone who has given his or her life to something bigger than oneself.” This structure is one as old as storytelling itself; it has been used from The Odyssey to Star War to Harry Potter – and Iron Man, of course!</p><p>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Marvel’s “Iron Man”: </p><ul><li><strong>Share your company’s origin story.</strong> Attract your ideal customers by showcasing your company’s journey. Telling your story demonstrates your company’s mission and fundamental values, and most importantly, it helps you distinguish yourself from your competition. This is especially important as consumers trend towards <a href="https://www.forrester.com/blogs/the-power-of-the-values-based-consumer-and-of-authentic-brand-values/">aligning their values with their spending</a>. How does this apply to Iron Man? We wouldn’t appreciate his character without seeing his growth from self-absorbed jerk to the selfless hero he becomes. Even though Iron Man is a billionaire genius living in a Malibu mansion, we are invested in his compelling emotional arc.</li><li><strong>Show both the successes and the struggles.</strong> Let’s be real. Starting a company isn’t easy. It’s a journey – and dare we say it, a Hero’s Journey! But part of the Hero’s Journey is that you will make mistakes – and no one is immune from this. For example, back in 2015, <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/av/entertainment-arts-33226719">Apple got negative publicity – notably from Taylor Swift</a> – for offering a free one-month trial of streaming in which artists wouldn’t receive royalties. Apple’s SVP of Internet Software and Services tweeted an apology: “#AppleMusic will pay artists for streaming, even during customer’s free trial period,” and, “We hear you @taylorswift13 and indie artists. Love, Apple.” Not long after, <a href="https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/taylor-swift-strikes-sweet-deal-with-apple/news-story/ee727e401b9a18c02ec78dbbb57d07df">Taylor Swift struck a deal with Apple</a> to stream her latest tour exclusively on the platform. Apple owned up to their mistakes quickly and transparently, allowing them to be on the public’s (and Taylor Swift’s) good side again. But being transparent about your values also means living up to them as well. The founders of tech company Basecamp have made improving work culture an integral component of their brand. They have published five books related to the topic and make resources like their company handbook publicly available. “<a href="https://peterfraedrich.medium.com/basecamp-a-cautionary-tale-in-company-culture-efd202f2442f">Treating people right is fundamental to how we do business</a>,” they write on their website. However, their actions didn’t line up with their values. A <a href="https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/27/22406673/basecamp-political-speech-policy-controversy">third of their employees resigned</a> after Basecamp put in place a policy banning “societal and political discussions.” The takeaway? Posting your values on your website is only one step. Living up to them is even more important. And if you fall short of your standards? Apologize and make it right. That’s <a href="https://world.hey.com/jason/an-update-303f2f99">what Basecamp did</a>.</li><li><strong>Keep telling your story.</strong> Every time you make a big decision, make sure it aligns with the values embedded in your origin story. Communicate your reasoning with your audience. Your transparency will strengthen your audience’s trust in you – and help you continue to build a loyal group of sidekicks!</li></ul><p><strong>Key Quotes</strong></p><p>*”With business storytelling, we focus on the timeline of accomplishments and not the thought and the rigor, the difficulties and the struggles that go into those middle pieces because we don't want to air dirty laundry. But if you illuminate the process a little bit more, you'd get a richer story.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”Another element to explaining what your mission is and bringing people on that mission is bringing them on the journey with you and continuously giving them updates on things from a business perspective. I like when there's an emotional connection between me and the brand. And a lot of times a good way to do that is through social media, for example. So, like I use Canva, as an example. And I follow them on LinkedIn. It's the only business account that I follow on LinkedIn. And I actually care what they post because I feel like I'm going on a journey with them. You feel like you're a part of it. And I think that's a really key element to building a relationship with your audience.” - Colin Stamps</p><p>“If you anchor back to your origin, it shows the reason for your mission. This is why we have these values as a company. This is why we believe in the vision that we're trying to achieve, is having this foundational element of a company that we set out to solve. It feeds into a future looking assessment of where you want to be. And that's why the origin story is so important.“ - Ian Faison</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[1:30] Tell me more about Iron Man</p><p>[4:14] The backstory behind the creation of the 2008 movie</p><p>[7:28] What can I learn about telling my origin story from Marvel?</p><p>[11:31] Why is it important to share my company’s origin story?</p><p>[14:39] Do I need to share the messier side of the origin story? Why?</p><p>[16:37] I already have a timeline sharing my company’s story. That’s enough, right?</p><p>[19:54] So what framework should I use?</p><p>[21:41] How does the origin story apply to marketing?</p><p>[22:47] What are some examples of the origin story in marketing?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.94a9f7c1-cbcf-da56-dc31-8e00a4f14a63/ref=atv_pr_sw_sc?autoplay=0">Watch Marvel’s Iron Man</a></p><p><a href="https://www.masterclass.com/articles/writing-101-what-is-the-heros-journey">What’s the Hero’s Journey?</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/canva/">See how Canva connects with customers on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://investors.dicks.com/about-us/default.aspx">Read Dick’s Sporting Goods origin story</a></p><p><a href="https://www.rei.com/blog/camp/rei-history-it-started-with-an-ice-axe">See how an ice axe inspired the founding of REI</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>Marketers are always focused on what’s next. We’re constantly planning the next campaign, predicting trends, and conducting research. Always onward! 

But there’s a critical piece of content from the past that you’re probably overlooking: your company’s origin story. It’s a powerful tool you can leverage to detail your company’s mission and align customers with your values to get deeper buy-in and drive sales.

This week, we’re taking inspiration from the origin story that launched an entire cinematic universe: the origin story of Marvel’s Iron Man. We’re showing you how to apply the structure of the hero’s journey to your company’s origin story so that your customers become superfans.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Marketers are always focused on what’s next. We’re constantly planning the next campaign, predicting trends, and conducting research. Always onward! 

But there’s a critical piece of content from the past that you’re probably overlooking: your company’s origin story. It’s a powerful tool you can leverage to detail your company’s mission and align customers with your values to get deeper buy-in and drive sales.

This week, we’re taking inspiration from the origin story that launched an entire cinematic universe: the origin story of Marvel’s Iron Man. We’re showing you how to apply the structure of the hero’s journey to your company’s origin story so that your customers become superfans.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Pixar&apos;s Up: Show, Don&apos;t Tell Your B2B Marketing Message</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>So many marketers use dialogue as a crutch. They spell out what their product is, how their audience could benefit from it, and wrap things up with a run-of-the-mill CTA.</p><p>But you don’t need dialogue to make a powerful B2B marketing campaign. In fact, you might not need words at all.</p><p>This week, we’re looking at the iconic opening montage from Pixar’s “Up.” <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHoHhdbEq1Y">The “Married Life” scene</a> tells the story of the film’s main character, Carl’s marriage to his childhood sweetheart, Ellie. We follow them from youth to old age – and Ellie’s death. These moments have no dialogue, instead letting the music, color, and shape tell Carl’s backstory. The animators didn’t tell us about Carl’s life – they showed it to us. The result? Perhaps the most iconic scene in Pixar’s storied history – and that’s no easy feat.</p><p>And we think your B2B marketing can leverage these same techniques to communicate your message so much more effectively than a voiceover ever could.</p><p><strong>About Pixar’s “Up”</strong></p><p>“Up” is a 2009 animated movie by Pixar. It was directed by Pete Docter and co-director Bob Peterson, who also wrote the story along with Tom McCarthy. The original score is by Michael Giacchino.</p><p>“Up” follows 78-year-old Carl Fredricksen as he rigs up his house with balloons in an attempt to fly to Paradise Falls and fulfill a promise to his late wife. He is joined by Russell, an 8-year-old Junior Wilderness Explorer, who has stowed away by clinging to the porch as the house lifted off its foundation. Together, they navigate the treacherous journey to the falls.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Pixar’s “Up”: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Let music do the emotional heavy lifting.</strong> The “Married Life” montage tells the story of Carl’s marriage to Ellie. Though the two tragically discover they can’t have children, they find hope in their childhood promise of trekking across the world to Paradise falls. The scene ends with Ellie’s funeral – and the promise left unfulfilled. These emotional moments are even more powerful because of composer Michael Giacchino’s score. <a href="https://www.theringer.com/movies/2022/6/14/23166006/up-first-10-minutes-making-of">In an interview</a>, Giacchino said that the “Married Life” montage was the most difficult scene to write for. In order to make the scenes most effective, he wrote simple music for the scenes – or even opted not to score some of the most emotional moments. This restraint gave the scenes a gentle, melancholic feel, rather than a melodramatic one.</li><li><strong>Tell a story with color and shape.</strong> Whether they know it or not, <a href="https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/01/060125082426.htm">viewers use basic visual cues to put together and understand a scene nearly instantaneously</a>. So much of a scene can be told through these basic visual cues like color, and shape. In “Up”, each character is designed around a shape and color that conveys something about their personalities. Carl is blue and a square, Ellie is pink and a circle, and Russell is yellow and egg-shaped. The animators also adjusted the color palettes for scenes based on their emotional content: they used saturated colors in joyful scenes and drab colors in sad scenes. These visual cues may seem basic, but the connotations of specific colors and shapes will create instant context for your ad’s viewers.</li><li><strong>Focus on facial expressions and body language.</strong> We don’t just communicate with our words. The “Married Life” montage uses body language to show Carl and Ellie’s feelings towards each other. When Ellie points at a cloud, we see Carl’s blissful expression. We watch Ellie flinch as Carl smashes their savings jar again, telling us everything we need to know about how Ellie feels at that moment. Through intentional camera composition, editing, and directing, you can communicate a story with no words at all.</li></ul><p><strong>Key Quotes</strong></p><p>*”By showing, not telling, especially in this example, it forces you to fill in the blanks with words that you understand or emotions that you can connect with.” - Dane Eckerle</p><p>*”When you show a story without any V.O., we have no idea where we're going. So each thing happens sequentially and it builds on itself. You don't know where it’s going. But by the end of it, you totally get it.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”If you go on TikTok, they're telling, not showing at all. There's someone speaking to you, there's captions, there's big text on the screen and you're seeing and hearing everything [being] spoon fed to the point where now, moments like this land that much harder, because I'm not used to using my imagination as much. This technique will work better now than it would've 15 years ago because people are so used to being spoon fed stuff. So it's all the more relevant today.” - Dane Eckerle</p><p>*”It comes down to B2B companies seeing their audience as people first and not just other businesses. You are talking to people who have real needs and different personas and different target audiences.” - Anagha Das</p><p>*”You’re marketing a journey. So as a marketer, take a snapshot of your target customer at the midpoint of their journey, and then show the story of their journey.” - Ian Faison</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[2:12] Tell me more about Pixar's "Up"</p><p>[5:35] How did Pixar get audience buy-in within the first few minutes?</p><p>[10:37] How did composer Michael Giacchino craft music to tell a story?</p><p>[13:07] How did the storyboard artists use color and composition to convey meaning?</p><p>[14:55] Why is showing-not-telling more powerful today than ever?</p><p>[16:45] Examples of show-don't-tell in marketing</p><p>[19:27] How do I market a customer journey?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B00BUBKLAW/ref=atv_hm_hom_1_c_lZOsi7_2_3">Watch Pixar’s Up</a></p><p><a href="https://michaelgiacchino.com/projects/up/">Learn more about how Michael Giacchino wrote the score</a></p><p><a href="https://www.pixar.com/feature-films/up">How did Pixar design the characters?</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB4cjbYywqg">See how Apple used show-don’t-tell in their accessibility campaign</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 1 Feb 2023 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So many marketers use dialogue as a crutch. They spell out what their product is, how their audience could benefit from it, and wrap things up with a run-of-the-mill CTA.</p><p>But you don’t need dialogue to make a powerful B2B marketing campaign. In fact, you might not need words at all.</p><p>This week, we’re looking at the iconic opening montage from Pixar’s “Up.” <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHoHhdbEq1Y">The “Married Life” scene</a> tells the story of the film’s main character, Carl’s marriage to his childhood sweetheart, Ellie. We follow them from youth to old age – and Ellie’s death. These moments have no dialogue, instead letting the music, color, and shape tell Carl’s backstory. The animators didn’t tell us about Carl’s life – they showed it to us. The result? Perhaps the most iconic scene in Pixar’s storied history – and that’s no easy feat.</p><p>And we think your B2B marketing can leverage these same techniques to communicate your message so much more effectively than a voiceover ever could.</p><p><strong>About Pixar’s “Up”</strong></p><p>“Up” is a 2009 animated movie by Pixar. It was directed by Pete Docter and co-director Bob Peterson, who also wrote the story along with Tom McCarthy. The original score is by Michael Giacchino.</p><p>“Up” follows 78-year-old Carl Fredricksen as he rigs up his house with balloons in an attempt to fly to Paradise Falls and fulfill a promise to his late wife. He is joined by Russell, an 8-year-old Junior Wilderness Explorer, who has stowed away by clinging to the porch as the house lifted off its foundation. Together, they navigate the treacherous journey to the falls.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Pixar’s “Up”: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Let music do the emotional heavy lifting.</strong> The “Married Life” montage tells the story of Carl’s marriage to Ellie. Though the two tragically discover they can’t have children, they find hope in their childhood promise of trekking across the world to Paradise falls. The scene ends with Ellie’s funeral – and the promise left unfulfilled. These emotional moments are even more powerful because of composer Michael Giacchino’s score. <a href="https://www.theringer.com/movies/2022/6/14/23166006/up-first-10-minutes-making-of">In an interview</a>, Giacchino said that the “Married Life” montage was the most difficult scene to write for. In order to make the scenes most effective, he wrote simple music for the scenes – or even opted not to score some of the most emotional moments. This restraint gave the scenes a gentle, melancholic feel, rather than a melodramatic one.</li><li><strong>Tell a story with color and shape.</strong> Whether they know it or not, <a href="https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/01/060125082426.htm">viewers use basic visual cues to put together and understand a scene nearly instantaneously</a>. So much of a scene can be told through these basic visual cues like color, and shape. In “Up”, each character is designed around a shape and color that conveys something about their personalities. Carl is blue and a square, Ellie is pink and a circle, and Russell is yellow and egg-shaped. The animators also adjusted the color palettes for scenes based on their emotional content: they used saturated colors in joyful scenes and drab colors in sad scenes. These visual cues may seem basic, but the connotations of specific colors and shapes will create instant context for your ad’s viewers.</li><li><strong>Focus on facial expressions and body language.</strong> We don’t just communicate with our words. The “Married Life” montage uses body language to show Carl and Ellie’s feelings towards each other. When Ellie points at a cloud, we see Carl’s blissful expression. We watch Ellie flinch as Carl smashes their savings jar again, telling us everything we need to know about how Ellie feels at that moment. Through intentional camera composition, editing, and directing, you can communicate a story with no words at all.</li></ul><p><strong>Key Quotes</strong></p><p>*”By showing, not telling, especially in this example, it forces you to fill in the blanks with words that you understand or emotions that you can connect with.” - Dane Eckerle</p><p>*”When you show a story without any V.O., we have no idea where we're going. So each thing happens sequentially and it builds on itself. You don't know where it’s going. But by the end of it, you totally get it.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”If you go on TikTok, they're telling, not showing at all. There's someone speaking to you, there's captions, there's big text on the screen and you're seeing and hearing everything [being] spoon fed to the point where now, moments like this land that much harder, because I'm not used to using my imagination as much. This technique will work better now than it would've 15 years ago because people are so used to being spoon fed stuff. So it's all the more relevant today.” - Dane Eckerle</p><p>*”It comes down to B2B companies seeing their audience as people first and not just other businesses. You are talking to people who have real needs and different personas and different target audiences.” - Anagha Das</p><p>*”You’re marketing a journey. So as a marketer, take a snapshot of your target customer at the midpoint of their journey, and then show the story of their journey.” - Ian Faison</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[2:12] Tell me more about Pixar's "Up"</p><p>[5:35] How did Pixar get audience buy-in within the first few minutes?</p><p>[10:37] How did composer Michael Giacchino craft music to tell a story?</p><p>[13:07] How did the storyboard artists use color and composition to convey meaning?</p><p>[14:55] Why is showing-not-telling more powerful today than ever?</p><p>[16:45] Examples of show-don't-tell in marketing</p><p>[19:27] How do I market a customer journey?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B00BUBKLAW/ref=atv_hm_hom_1_c_lZOsi7_2_3">Watch Pixar’s Up</a></p><p><a href="https://michaelgiacchino.com/projects/up/">Learn more about how Michael Giacchino wrote the score</a></p><p><a href="https://www.pixar.com/feature-films/up">How did Pixar design the characters?</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB4cjbYywqg">See how Apple used show-don’t-tell in their accessibility campaign</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Pixar&apos;s Up: Show, Don&apos;t Tell Your B2B Marketing Message</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:summary>So many marketers use dialogue as a crutch. They spell out what their product is, how their audience could benefit from it, and wrap things up with a run-of-the-mill CTA.

But you don’t need dialogue to make a powerful B2B marketing campaign. In fact, you might not need words at all.

This week, we’re looking at the iconic opening montage from Pixar’s “Up.” The “Married Life” scene tells the story of the film’s main character, Carl’s marriage to his childhood sweetheart, Ellie. We follow them from youth to old age – and Ellie’s death. These moments have no dialogue, instead letting the music, color, and shape tell Carl’s backstory. The animators didn’t tell us about Carl’s life – they showed it to us. The result? Perhaps the most iconic scene in Pixar’s storied history – and that’s no easy feat.

And we think your B2B marketing can leverage these same techniques to communicate your message so much more effectively than a voiceover ever could.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>So many marketers use dialogue as a crutch. They spell out what their product is, how their audience could benefit from it, and wrap things up with a run-of-the-mill CTA.

But you don’t need dialogue to make a powerful B2B marketing campaign. In fact, you might not need words at all.

This week, we’re looking at the iconic opening montage from Pixar’s “Up.” The “Married Life” scene tells the story of the film’s main character, Carl’s marriage to his childhood sweetheart, Ellie. We follow them from youth to old age – and Ellie’s death. These moments have no dialogue, instead letting the music, color, and shape tell Carl’s backstory. The animators didn’t tell us about Carl’s life – they showed it to us. The result? Perhaps the most iconic scene in Pixar’s storied history – and that’s no easy feat.

And we think your B2B marketing can leverage these same techniques to communicate your message so much more effectively than a voiceover ever could.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Hemingway&apos;s 6-Word Story: Tips on Using Word Economy in Your B2B Marketing</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Your audience doesn’t have time to read a novel. Say more with less. </p><p>You want the text in your campaign to impact viewers, so that it stays with them. So that they think about it later. So that they’re sure to talk about it with their team. So that they’ll buy what you’re selling.</p><p>And what better Man-of-Few-Words to learn from than Ernest Hemingway. He is the master of the short, impactful phrase. Today, we’re talking about the legendary six-word story that Hemingway <i>supposedly </i>wrote: “For sale, baby shoes, never worn.” And how you, too, can pack a punch in a few words – but maybe make it a touch less sad.</p><p>In this episode we’re keeping it short and sweet. (Sort of. Depends on your definition of “short” and “sweet.”) And showing you how to use the economy of words in your B2B marketing.</p><p><strong>About the 6-Word Story</strong></p><p>Legend has it that American writer Ernest Hemingway was having lunch at The Algonquin hotel sometime in the 1920s with his writer friends when he made a ten-dollar bet that he could write a short story in just six words. On a napkin, he wrote, “For sale, baby shoes, never worn.” He then collected his earnings from his incredulous friends. </p><p>It’s a great story, but it’s likely apocryphal. According to <a href="https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1540-5931.2012.00935.x">an investigation published in <i>The Journal of Popular Culture</i></a><i>, </i>there’s no proof Hemingway actually wrote those six words. </p><p>There are a few places the legend likely originated. One possibility is literary agent Peter Miller, who wrote about it in his 1974 book, <i>Get Published! Get Produced!: A Literary Agent’s Tips on How to Sell Your Writing</i>. The tall tale may have been inspired by a newspaper urban legend: the story of a classified ad from 1906 that read: “For sale, baby carriage, never been used. Apply at this office.” A 1917 essay by William R. Kane profiled a woman who lost her baby, and it was entitled “Little Shoes, Never Worn.” </p><p>But it doesn’t actually matter where this story came from. What matters is what we can learn from it.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Ernest Hemingway: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Be intentional about word choice.</strong> Embrace the economy of words – use fewer words to say more. It’s a technique that likely came from journalism, where there was limited space on a newspaper page. In marketing, it’s a means to stand out from your competition.</li><li><strong>Trust your audience to fill in the blanks.</strong> Don’t spoon feed your audience the message. Make them think and engage their critical thinking skills (<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/incorporating-a-touch-of-mystery-into-your/id1649812073?i=1000590910971">Sound familiar? We’ve talked about this before</a>). Trust that they’ll make the necessary inferences, associations, and assumptions to get the message. Hemingway doesn’t say, “A baby passes away, selling shoes.” He says, “For sale, baby shoes, never worn.” This version is more emotionally compelling, because the audience has to make their own deductions about why the shoes are for sale.</li><li><strong>Tug at your audience’s heartstrings.</strong> Use words that evoke an emotional response. They make your readers <i>feel </i>something and/or push them to take action. It’s a common technique, especially in the B2C world. Think De Beers’ “A Diamond is Forever” campaign, reflecting the idea of everlasting love. Allstate’s “You’re in Good Hands” evokes a sense of comfort and security. Without saying much, these brands made us feel something in just a few words. And you can, too, in your marketing.</li></ul><p><strong>Key Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Words on a page and words spoken to you are the ways that you can paint an extremely vivid picture in your audience or customer base's mind.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”In a day and age where people's attention spans are limited and there's constantly a million things going on, like a million ads being sent your way, emails in your inbox every second, the fewer words you use to get your point across, the more valuable.“ - Anagha Das</p><p>*”It's a testament to the human imagination. The human mind is a lot stronger and smarter than people give it credit for. It takes so little to inspire someone's imagination to fill in the blanks or to latch onto the essence of what you're trying to say. To now cut through the noise almost involves saying less to be different than everybody else.” - Dane Eckerle</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[1:49] Tell me about Ernest Hemingway’s 6-Word Story</p><p>[4:07] How is brevity used across all forms of media?</p><p>[5:03] The history of the 6-word story, “For sale, baby shoes, never worn.”</p><p>[8:20] Why is it important for marketers to be able to tell a 6-word story?</p><p>[12:55] How do you optimize character count in social media marketing?</p><p>[15:33] Examples of the economy of words in B2C and B2B marketing</p><p>[21:44] What are character limits across social media platforms?</p><p>[24:39] Caspian 6-Word Stories</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/595402/ernest-hemingway-did-not-write-six-word-baby-shoes-story">Demystifying Hemingway’s 6-Word Story</a></p><p><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/ernest-hemingways-six-word-sequels?mbid=social_twitter">Hemingway’s 6-Word Sequels</a></p><p><a href="https://www.masterclass.com/articles/power-words">Learn More About Power Words in Marketing</a></p><p>Examples of Economy of Words in Marketing Campaigns:</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pU6WQXkiOU">De Beers</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3Fsxcu-5Ho">Jared</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uDeH0HBTnA">Kay Jewelers</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbpFpjLVabA">Snickers</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkArAvO7B2Q">M&Ms</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilGD3wA3QXE">Dunkin Donuts</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrPwuNVwkKw">Allstate</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2023 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your audience doesn’t have time to read a novel. Say more with less. </p><p>You want the text in your campaign to impact viewers, so that it stays with them. So that they think about it later. So that they’re sure to talk about it with their team. So that they’ll buy what you’re selling.</p><p>And what better Man-of-Few-Words to learn from than Ernest Hemingway. He is the master of the short, impactful phrase. Today, we’re talking about the legendary six-word story that Hemingway <i>supposedly </i>wrote: “For sale, baby shoes, never worn.” And how you, too, can pack a punch in a few words – but maybe make it a touch less sad.</p><p>In this episode we’re keeping it short and sweet. (Sort of. Depends on your definition of “short” and “sweet.”) And showing you how to use the economy of words in your B2B marketing.</p><p><strong>About the 6-Word Story</strong></p><p>Legend has it that American writer Ernest Hemingway was having lunch at The Algonquin hotel sometime in the 1920s with his writer friends when he made a ten-dollar bet that he could write a short story in just six words. On a napkin, he wrote, “For sale, baby shoes, never worn.” He then collected his earnings from his incredulous friends. </p><p>It’s a great story, but it’s likely apocryphal. According to <a href="https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1540-5931.2012.00935.x">an investigation published in <i>The Journal of Popular Culture</i></a><i>, </i>there’s no proof Hemingway actually wrote those six words. </p><p>There are a few places the legend likely originated. One possibility is literary agent Peter Miller, who wrote about it in his 1974 book, <i>Get Published! Get Produced!: A Literary Agent’s Tips on How to Sell Your Writing</i>. The tall tale may have been inspired by a newspaper urban legend: the story of a classified ad from 1906 that read: “For sale, baby carriage, never been used. Apply at this office.” A 1917 essay by William R. Kane profiled a woman who lost her baby, and it was entitled “Little Shoes, Never Worn.” </p><p>But it doesn’t actually matter where this story came from. What matters is what we can learn from it.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Ernest Hemingway: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Be intentional about word choice.</strong> Embrace the economy of words – use fewer words to say more. It’s a technique that likely came from journalism, where there was limited space on a newspaper page. In marketing, it’s a means to stand out from your competition.</li><li><strong>Trust your audience to fill in the blanks.</strong> Don’t spoon feed your audience the message. Make them think and engage their critical thinking skills (<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/incorporating-a-touch-of-mystery-into-your/id1649812073?i=1000590910971">Sound familiar? We’ve talked about this before</a>). Trust that they’ll make the necessary inferences, associations, and assumptions to get the message. Hemingway doesn’t say, “A baby passes away, selling shoes.” He says, “For sale, baby shoes, never worn.” This version is more emotionally compelling, because the audience has to make their own deductions about why the shoes are for sale.</li><li><strong>Tug at your audience’s heartstrings.</strong> Use words that evoke an emotional response. They make your readers <i>feel </i>something and/or push them to take action. It’s a common technique, especially in the B2C world. Think De Beers’ “A Diamond is Forever” campaign, reflecting the idea of everlasting love. Allstate’s “You’re in Good Hands” evokes a sense of comfort and security. Without saying much, these brands made us feel something in just a few words. And you can, too, in your marketing.</li></ul><p><strong>Key Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Words on a page and words spoken to you are the ways that you can paint an extremely vivid picture in your audience or customer base's mind.” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”In a day and age where people's attention spans are limited and there's constantly a million things going on, like a million ads being sent your way, emails in your inbox every second, the fewer words you use to get your point across, the more valuable.“ - Anagha Das</p><p>*”It's a testament to the human imagination. The human mind is a lot stronger and smarter than people give it credit for. It takes so little to inspire someone's imagination to fill in the blanks or to latch onto the essence of what you're trying to say. To now cut through the noise almost involves saying less to be different than everybody else.” - Dane Eckerle</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[1:49] Tell me about Ernest Hemingway’s 6-Word Story</p><p>[4:07] How is brevity used across all forms of media?</p><p>[5:03] The history of the 6-word story, “For sale, baby shoes, never worn.”</p><p>[8:20] Why is it important for marketers to be able to tell a 6-word story?</p><p>[12:55] How do you optimize character count in social media marketing?</p><p>[15:33] Examples of the economy of words in B2C and B2B marketing</p><p>[21:44] What are character limits across social media platforms?</p><p>[24:39] Caspian 6-Word Stories</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/595402/ernest-hemingway-did-not-write-six-word-baby-shoes-story">Demystifying Hemingway’s 6-Word Story</a></p><p><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/ernest-hemingways-six-word-sequels?mbid=social_twitter">Hemingway’s 6-Word Sequels</a></p><p><a href="https://www.masterclass.com/articles/power-words">Learn More About Power Words in Marketing</a></p><p>Examples of Economy of Words in Marketing Campaigns:</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pU6WQXkiOU">De Beers</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3Fsxcu-5Ho">Jared</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uDeH0HBTnA">Kay Jewelers</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbpFpjLVabA">Snickers</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkArAvO7B2Q">M&Ms</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilGD3wA3QXE">Dunkin Donuts</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrPwuNVwkKw">Allstate</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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And what better Man-of-Few-Words to learn from than Ernest Hemingway. He is the master of the short, impactful phrase. Today, we’re talking about the legendary six-word story that Hemingway supposedly wrote: “For sale, baby shoes, never worn.” And how you, too, can pack a punch in a few words – but maybe make it a touch less sad.

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And what better Man-of-Few-Words to learn from than Ernest Hemingway. He is the master of the short, impactful phrase. Today, we’re talking about the legendary six-word story that Hemingway supposedly wrote: “For sale, baby shoes, never worn.” And how you, too, can pack a punch in a few words – but maybe make it a touch less sad.

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      <description><![CDATA[<p>If your marketing team keeps talking in circles about what to do next with your B2B marketing initiatives, then we have an idea for you. Stop talking in circles and start telling stories in circles. That’s right – circles. Stick with us here. </p><p>Hollywood has a tried-and-true method for hooking your audience from the first frame: circular storytelling. If you can leverage this technique effectively, your marketing content can stand out from the crowd – no matter if it’s a case study, a white paper, or a social video.</p><p>In this episode, we break down the use of circular storytelling in Slumdog Millionaire and discuss how to apply this technique to your B2B marketing.</p><p><strong>About Slumdog Millionaire</strong></p><p>Slumdog Millionaire is a 2008 British drama directed by Danny Boyle, co-directed by Loveleen Tandan, and starring Dev Patel and Freida Pinto. Simon Beaufoy wrote the screenplay, which is based on Vikas Swarup’s novel, <i>Q & A. </i>The story follows orphan Jamal Malik, who is selected to be a contestant on the Indian version of <i>Who Wants to be a Millionaire – </i>only to be accused of cheating when he’s one question away from winning the grand prize of 20M Rupees. The movie has won numerous awards, including Academy Award for Best Picture, Music, Writing, Directing, and Sound Mixing (2009) and many, many others.</p><p><strong>What’s Circular Storytelling?</strong></p><p>Circular storytelling is a mechanism in which the story literally ends where it began – with the same exact scene. This device hooks the audience at a point of high tension and personal crisis for the main character. Then, the movie flashes back to the opening of the narrative.</p><p>Slumdog Millionaire opens with Jamal Malik being interrogated and tortured after being accused of cheating on the game show. Through the use of flashbacks, we discover exactly how he knew the answers to each question.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Slumdog Millionaire: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Start your customer journey at the end.</strong> Document customer stories from the very beginning. By doing this, you can show prospective customers real results you’ve achieved with current ones, and how you could benefit their business. Give them customer success stories, so that they can envision their future as your customer. In Slumdog Millionaire, we know that Jamal will get to the penultimate question on <i>Who Wants to be a Millionaire</i> – because that’s where the story begins. By spelling out the many benefits your company has to offer, you are providing your new customers proof that your organization creates results.</li><li><strong>Hook ad viewers with a high-intensity intro.</strong> Bring them in the middle of the action to grab their attention. For example, you can highlight a common pain point your business can solve – and then use circular storytelling. Slumdog Millionaire starts with Jamal being brutally interrogated on how he knew the game show answers. From this moment, the central mystery of the film is established: if Jamal did not cheat, then how did he know all the answers? Similarly, highlighting a pain point Just like viewers wondered how a slumdog could know the answers, you’ll have them wondering how you can solve all their pain points for them.</li></ul><p><strong>Key Quotes</strong></p><p>*”That's always a plus point in any movie, TV show, story or ad that you're reading or watching. If you're thrown right in the middle of it, chances are you’re going to be engaged from the start. - Anagha Das</p><p>*”Everything has to start on a bang. And whether that takes you back to where you started or whether it's more just a great hook, jumping in on a bang is just something that works. If you don't have [a hook,] you're hard pressed to actually keep people along for the ride.” - Dane Eckerle</p><p>*”I've seen this in case studies where they have the results at the beginning. And then it unfolds as to how they got those results. There is a huge opportunity to do this kind of storytelling in B2B marketing.” - Colin Stamps</p><p>*”You should be doing circular storytelling with your case studies, with your customer stories, with your demos, with your prospect journey.” - Ian Faison</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[3:19] Tell me more about Slumdog Millionaire</p><p>[7:05] What is circular storytelling?</p><p>[10:13] Are there any drawbacks to using circular storytelling?</p><p>[11:46] How do you apply mystery to your marketing campaign?</p><p>[16:31] What are examples of circular storytelling in B2B?</p><p>[18:30] How can you apply this to your B2B marketing? </p><p>[22:12] Other examples in B2C marketing</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.74dd0e2d-e6c5-4a37-814e-39008126d3a9?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch Slumdog Millionaire</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnlKwzc_TNA&t=10s">See how Mr. Beast hooks viewers</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SIMPPavIomA">Look at how Gary Vee uses flashbacks on his predictions</a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-hacker-chronicles/id1599393610">Check out how we’ve used circular storytelling ourselves in The Hacker Chronicles podcast</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If your marketing team keeps talking in circles about what to do next with your B2B marketing initiatives, then we have an idea for you. Stop talking in circles and start telling stories in circles. That’s right – circles. Stick with us here. </p><p>Hollywood has a tried-and-true method for hooking your audience from the first frame: circular storytelling. If you can leverage this technique effectively, your marketing content can stand out from the crowd – no matter if it’s a case study, a white paper, or a social video.</p><p>In this episode, we break down the use of circular storytelling in Slumdog Millionaire and discuss how to apply this technique to your B2B marketing.</p><p><strong>About Slumdog Millionaire</strong></p><p>Slumdog Millionaire is a 2008 British drama directed by Danny Boyle, co-directed by Loveleen Tandan, and starring Dev Patel and Freida Pinto. Simon Beaufoy wrote the screenplay, which is based on Vikas Swarup’s novel, <i>Q & A. </i>The story follows orphan Jamal Malik, who is selected to be a contestant on the Indian version of <i>Who Wants to be a Millionaire – </i>only to be accused of cheating when he’s one question away from winning the grand prize of 20M Rupees. The movie has won numerous awards, including Academy Award for Best Picture, Music, Writing, Directing, and Sound Mixing (2009) and many, many others.</p><p><strong>What’s Circular Storytelling?</strong></p><p>Circular storytelling is a mechanism in which the story literally ends where it began – with the same exact scene. This device hooks the audience at a point of high tension and personal crisis for the main character. Then, the movie flashes back to the opening of the narrative.</p><p>Slumdog Millionaire opens with Jamal Malik being interrogated and tortured after being accused of cheating on the game show. Through the use of flashbacks, we discover exactly how he knew the answers to each question.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Slumdog Millionaire: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Start your customer journey at the end.</strong> Document customer stories from the very beginning. By doing this, you can show prospective customers real results you’ve achieved with current ones, and how you could benefit their business. Give them customer success stories, so that they can envision their future as your customer. In Slumdog Millionaire, we know that Jamal will get to the penultimate question on <i>Who Wants to be a Millionaire</i> – because that’s where the story begins. By spelling out the many benefits your company has to offer, you are providing your new customers proof that your organization creates results.</li><li><strong>Hook ad viewers with a high-intensity intro.</strong> Bring them in the middle of the action to grab their attention. For example, you can highlight a common pain point your business can solve – and then use circular storytelling. Slumdog Millionaire starts with Jamal being brutally interrogated on how he knew the game show answers. From this moment, the central mystery of the film is established: if Jamal did not cheat, then how did he know all the answers? Similarly, highlighting a pain point Just like viewers wondered how a slumdog could know the answers, you’ll have them wondering how you can solve all their pain points for them.</li></ul><p><strong>Key Quotes</strong></p><p>*”That's always a plus point in any movie, TV show, story or ad that you're reading or watching. If you're thrown right in the middle of it, chances are you’re going to be engaged from the start. - Anagha Das</p><p>*”Everything has to start on a bang. And whether that takes you back to where you started or whether it's more just a great hook, jumping in on a bang is just something that works. 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There is a huge opportunity to do this kind of storytelling in B2B marketing.” - Colin Stamps</p><p>*”You should be doing circular storytelling with your case studies, with your customer stories, with your demos, with your prospect journey.” - Ian Faison</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[3:19] Tell me more about Slumdog Millionaire</p><p>[7:05] What is circular storytelling?</p><p>[10:13] Are there any drawbacks to using circular storytelling?</p><p>[11:46] How do you apply mystery to your marketing campaign?</p><p>[16:31] What are examples of circular storytelling in B2B?</p><p>[18:30] How can you apply this to your B2B marketing? </p><p>[22:12] Other examples in B2C marketing</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.74dd0e2d-e6c5-4a37-814e-39008126d3a9?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch Slumdog Millionaire</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnlKwzc_TNA&t=10s">See how Mr. Beast hooks viewers</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SIMPPavIomA">Look at how Gary Vee uses flashbacks on his predictions</a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-hacker-chronicles/id1599393610">Check out how we’ve used circular storytelling ourselves in The Hacker Chronicles podcast</a></p><p><strong>About Remarkable!</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. 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Hollywood has a tried-and-true method for hooking your audience from the first frame: circular storytelling. If you can leverage this technique effectively, your marketing content can stand out from the crowd – no matter if it’s a case study, a white paper, or a social video.

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      <title>Only Murders in the Building: Incorporating a Touch of Mystery into Your Marketing</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Do you think of your customers as simple consumers of your brand? If so, you’re missing out on the opportunity to turn them into diehard brand ambassadors. </p><p>The key to inspiring impassioned brand loyalty is simple: engage your customers more deeply. Get them talking about your brand. Get them asking questions. And what better way to get your customers engaged than to instill a little mystery in your content?</p><p>In this episode, we’re looking at the award-winning hit series Only Murders in the Building for lessons on incorporating some mystery into your marketing. We’ll show you how to use interactive marketing, engage your audience’s critical thinking skills, and get people talking about your brand.</p><p><strong>About Only Murders in the Building</strong></p><p>Only Murders in the Building is a mystery-comedy series released in 2021. Created by Steve Martin and John Hoffman, the show is about three residents who live in a luxury apartment building in New York City. The trio becomes unlikely friends after they team up to solve the mystery around the death of one of their neighbors – and start a podcast to document it. The award-winning series stars Steve Martin, Martin Short and Selena Gomez. Only Murders in the Building is the most watched comedy premiere on Hulu to date, ranked in Nielsen’s top 10 for weeks following its release, and the first season is rated 100% on Rotten Tomatoes. If you're looking to add a little mystery in your marketing, there's no better example to follow.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Only Murders in the Building:</strong> </p><ul><li><strong>Create an interactive experience for customers.</strong> Offer them access points across different platforms or mediums to engage with your brand. Only Murders in the Building gives viewers several opportunities to become detectives themselves. The Emmy award-winning series hid clues relating back to the series across multiple platforms — including at an <a href="https://www.adweek.com/creativity/tour-the-third-arm-gallery-and-stay-alive-in-hulus-only-murders-in-the-building-pop-up/">in-person pop-up event</a>. To promote the show, Hulu also created <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eJEImApaOw">“ambient rooms,</a>” or video scenescapes of each character’s apartment where viewers could spend time looking for clues to the murder mystery. Clues were hidden in the music, ambient noise, fleeting images, or were even items within the room! It’s this level of audience engagement, suspense, and storytelling that led to the show’s incredible success. </li><li><strong>Don’t reinvent the wheel…entirely.</strong> Martin Short and Steve Martin are a well-known comedy duo and have an amazing on-screen chemistry. Only Murders in the Building took their existing relationship and created something entirely new with it. The addition of pop icon Selena Gomez to the cast as the show’s final detective adds to the promise that viewers will be watching something new. If you’ve created ads, or marketing campaigns that have been successful in the past, take elements of what’s worked well and spin them to create something new. No need to completely reinvent what has already resonated with your audience! </li><li><strong>Intrigue your audience with mystery.</strong> Engage your audience’s critical thinking skills by leaving room to the imagination. Only Murders in the Building builds layers of intrigue with the mysterious death of Tim Kono. But as the show goes on, the mysteries only deepen, and the series slowly reveals that each of the three main characters have dark secrets of their own. In your B2B marketing, create storylines that are playful, suspenseful, and leave some room for your audience to fill in the gaps themselves. Everyone loves a good challenge and piecing together clues to get to the bigger picture.</li></ul><p><strong>Key Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Fans are really into mysteries and theories. They like little surprises that involve them and make people feel like they can be a part of the show, a part of solving these mysteries.” - Anagha Das</p><p>*”Having the show turn into like a bit of a puzzle just creates for a more activating, interactive experience where you're not just sitting there passively consuming content. You actually have to turn your brain on and activate, becoming essentially a part of the show. Your own detective.” - Dane Eckerle</p><p>*”Every company is presenting some kind of solution that's solving a problem. I wonder if there's some opportunity to make some content around solving that problem, in making that into some kind of mystery.” - Colin Stamps</p><p>*”One huge benefit and advantage of utilizing mystery is just getting people to discuss things and have a conversation, to talk about what they're seeing or what they're feeling.” - Dane Eckerle</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[1:23] Tell me more about Only Murders in the Building</p><p>[5:26] Why should you use mystery in your marketing?</p><p>[8:05] How do you get deeper audience engagement?</p><p>[11:46] How do you apply mystery to your marketing campaign?</p><p>[17:32] What other companies have used mystery in their marketing?</p><p>[21:04] What's the key to a great mystery? </p><p>[23:01] How can comedy and mystery be used together for greater impact?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.hulu.com/series/only-murders-in-the-building-ef31c7e1-cd0f-4e07-848d-1cbfedb50ddf?cmp=9224&utm_source=google&utm_medium=SEM&utm_campaign=CM_SEM_Originals&utm_term=watch%20only%20murders%20in%20the%20building%20hulu&gclid=Cj0KCQiA-oqdBhDfARIsAO0TrGHF_rvSEwOWqQdIP1ObcX-MUmItu_tar9lzz3ABo1oj03_4oZIEcQYaAsGmEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds">Watch Only Murders in the Building</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=litXW91UauE">See how Dove used a sense of mystery in their Real Beauty campaign</a></p><p>About Remarkable!</p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2022 20:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Rex New, Anagha Das, Meredith O&apos;Neil, Scott Goodrich, Ian Faison, Dane Eckerle, Colin Stamps)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you think of your customers as simple consumers of your brand? If so, you’re missing out on the opportunity to turn them into diehard brand ambassadors. </p><p>The key to inspiring impassioned brand loyalty is simple: engage your customers more deeply. Get them talking about your brand. Get them asking questions. And what better way to get your customers engaged than to instill a little mystery in your content?</p><p>In this episode, we’re looking at the award-winning hit series Only Murders in the Building for lessons on incorporating some mystery into your marketing. We’ll show you how to use interactive marketing, engage your audience’s critical thinking skills, and get people talking about your brand.</p><p><strong>About Only Murders in the Building</strong></p><p>Only Murders in the Building is a mystery-comedy series released in 2021. Created by Steve Martin and John Hoffman, the show is about three residents who live in a luxury apartment building in New York City. The trio becomes unlikely friends after they team up to solve the mystery around the death of one of their neighbors – and start a podcast to document it. The award-winning series stars Steve Martin, Martin Short and Selena Gomez. Only Murders in the Building is the most watched comedy premiere on Hulu to date, ranked in Nielsen’s top 10 for weeks following its release, and the first season is rated 100% on Rotten Tomatoes. If you're looking to add a little mystery in your marketing, there's no better example to follow.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Only Murders in the Building:</strong> </p><ul><li><strong>Create an interactive experience for customers.</strong> Offer them access points across different platforms or mediums to engage with your brand. Only Murders in the Building gives viewers several opportunities to become detectives themselves. The Emmy award-winning series hid clues relating back to the series across multiple platforms — including at an <a href="https://www.adweek.com/creativity/tour-the-third-arm-gallery-and-stay-alive-in-hulus-only-murders-in-the-building-pop-up/">in-person pop-up event</a>. To promote the show, Hulu also created <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eJEImApaOw">“ambient rooms,</a>” or video scenescapes of each character’s apartment where viewers could spend time looking for clues to the murder mystery. Clues were hidden in the music, ambient noise, fleeting images, or were even items within the room! It’s this level of audience engagement, suspense, and storytelling that led to the show’s incredible success. </li><li><strong>Don’t reinvent the wheel…entirely.</strong> Martin Short and Steve Martin are a well-known comedy duo and have an amazing on-screen chemistry. Only Murders in the Building took their existing relationship and created something entirely new with it. The addition of pop icon Selena Gomez to the cast as the show’s final detective adds to the promise that viewers will be watching something new. If you’ve created ads, or marketing campaigns that have been successful in the past, take elements of what’s worked well and spin them to create something new. No need to completely reinvent what has already resonated with your audience! </li><li><strong>Intrigue your audience with mystery.</strong> Engage your audience’s critical thinking skills by leaving room to the imagination. Only Murders in the Building builds layers of intrigue with the mysterious death of Tim Kono. But as the show goes on, the mysteries only deepen, and the series slowly reveals that each of the three main characters have dark secrets of their own. In your B2B marketing, create storylines that are playful, suspenseful, and leave some room for your audience to fill in the gaps themselves. Everyone loves a good challenge and piecing together clues to get to the bigger picture.</li></ul><p><strong>Key Quotes</strong></p><p>*”Fans are really into mysteries and theories. They like little surprises that involve them and make people feel like they can be a part of the show, a part of solving these mysteries.” - Anagha Das</p><p>*”Having the show turn into like a bit of a puzzle just creates for a more activating, interactive experience where you're not just sitting there passively consuming content. You actually have to turn your brain on and activate, becoming essentially a part of the show. Your own detective.” - Dane Eckerle</p><p>*”Every company is presenting some kind of solution that's solving a problem. I wonder if there's some opportunity to make some content around solving that problem, in making that into some kind of mystery.” - Colin Stamps</p><p>*”One huge benefit and advantage of utilizing mystery is just getting people to discuss things and have a conversation, to talk about what they're seeing or what they're feeling.” - Dane Eckerle</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[1:23] Tell me more about Only Murders in the Building</p><p>[5:26] Why should you use mystery in your marketing?</p><p>[8:05] How do you get deeper audience engagement?</p><p>[11:46] How do you apply mystery to your marketing campaign?</p><p>[17:32] What other companies have used mystery in their marketing?</p><p>[21:04] What's the key to a great mystery? </p><p>[23:01] How can comedy and mystery be used together for greater impact?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.hulu.com/series/only-murders-in-the-building-ef31c7e1-cd0f-4e07-848d-1cbfedb50ddf?cmp=9224&utm_source=google&utm_medium=SEM&utm_campaign=CM_SEM_Originals&utm_term=watch%20only%20murders%20in%20the%20building%20hulu&gclid=Cj0KCQiA-oqdBhDfARIsAO0TrGHF_rvSEwOWqQdIP1ObcX-MUmItu_tar9lzz3ABo1oj03_4oZIEcQYaAsGmEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds">Watch Only Murders in the Building</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=litXW91UauE">See how Dove used a sense of mystery in their Real Beauty campaign</a></p><p>About Remarkable!</p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>Do you think of your customers as simple consumers of your brand? If so, you’re missing out on the opportunity to turn them into diehard brand ambassadors. 
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      <title>Dos Equis: The Most Interesting B2B Marketing Content In the World</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>[Cue Latin jazz music] It is the content that sells itself. It ranks #1 – no matter what you Google. It is the most interesting B2B marketing content in the world. And it’s yours.</p><p>Or at least it could be, after listening to this episode. Because we’re showing you branding tricks from the Dos Equis Most Interesting Man in the World campaign.</p><p>In this episode, we break down the slogan that helped triple sales for Dos Equis. According to <a href="https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/50-of-people-look-to-a-slogan-to-understand-a-companys-purpose-compared-to-only-7-of-people-who-believe-the-logo-is-most-important-new-data-from-the-manifest-finds-301174779.html">PRNewswire</a>, about fifty percent of customers rely on your slogan when considering doing business with you. Few things are more important for B2B marketing, so we’re here to help you ensure your slogan is as amazing as your product is.</p><p><strong>Why Dos Equis?</strong></p><p>The brand’s slogan was a key part of the Most Interesting Man in the World campaign that nearly tripled business for Dos Equis. During the campaign, the number of cases of Dos Equis shipped increased by nearly 35%, and Heineken estimated that around 25% of its growth in the future would come from the Dos Equis brand. The ad also became a part of the cultural zeitgeist, inspiring countless memes, spoofs, and Halloween costumes. So the Most Interesting Man in the World campaign has paid off for Dos Equis. Could a similarly bold campaign pay off for your B2B marketing?</p><p><strong>About Dos Equis</strong></p><p>Dos Equis is a Mexican lager-style beer made by the Cuauhtémoc Moctezuma Brewery, based in Monterrey, Mexico. The brewery was founded by German immigrant Wilhelm Hasse in 1890 and  is currently owned by Heineken. The same brewery also produces Tecate and Sol. </p><p>The Most Interesting Man in the World ads were created by Karl Lieberman and Brandon Henderson for an agency called EuroRSCG, New York. They aired in the U.S. from 2007 to 2015. Jonathan Goldsmith played the titular character, and the spots were narrated by William Lyman. The campaign features the Most Interesting Man in the World, Hemingway-esque character whose worldly larger-than-life exploits include bench-pressing women, sewing his own stitches, and swan diving from cliffs. The Most Interesting Man would end the commercials by saying the brand’s two-part slogan: “Because of the campaign, the two-part slogan, “I don’t always drink beer, but when I do I prefer Dos Equis,” and “Stay thirsty, my friends,” the Dos Equis brand decidedly set itself apart. It wasn’t just for the leisurely beach-going dude – it was for the dudes who aspired to be something more…interesting.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Dos Equis:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Your slogan should speak to your customer’s aspirations.</strong> Do consumer research to get to know your customers. Whether it’s your current or target customers, find out what motivates them. Is it wealth? A desire to belong? Getting a thrill? The team behind the Dos Equis slogan got wind that their male customers wanted to feel like they were more sophisticated. Working from this, they devised The Most Interesting Man in the World campaign.</li><li><strong>Would I wear the t-shirt?</strong> This is self-explanatory. But let's dig deeper into what that means. If someone wants to wear your brand's T-shirt, then they also feel an emotional investment in your brand. So remember, a catchy slogan isn't enough. You've also got to figure out how to create brand ambassadors through your campaigns.</li><li><strong>Make it a CTA.</strong> Call your customers to action with your slogan. Many of the greats do this: Nike tells its customers to “just do it," Subway challenges theirs to “eat fresh,” and Toyota extends an invitation by simply saying, “Let’s go places.” These CTA’s are incredibly simple, and that’s also why audiences respond to them. An effective CTA gets potential customers’ attention and deepens engagement with current customers. Ultimately, it guides them to your marketing funnel and leads them to conversion.</li></ul><p><strong>Key Quotes</strong></p><p>*”The slogan is, ‘Stay thirsty, my friends.’ And like that's a key differentiator, right? Is like the aspirational part of your slogan, which is, you want your community or your fans or whatever, or the people who purchase your product, uh, to do X, Y, and Z, to live a great life, to explore, to, you know, innovate, to do whatever it is that you want them to do. Like that is aspirational. Talking about your company is very different. And like, this is what I call the wear the t-shirt moment is like, would you wear a t-shirt that says, I prefer Dos Equis?” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”When you talk about creating an iconic character to deliver the slogan and the message, it's like people dress up like this guy for Halloween, the actor, the actor slash in in character was invited to the White House to sit with Obama. I mean, that's insane.” - Dane Eckerle</p><p>*”Here always has to be something that you're telling your audience to go look at, to go read, to go watch, to go like follow up on or talk to someone. And I feel like this is probably the most like natural, like funny, relatable cTA that's been part of a brand's slogan, like, just stay thirsty, my friends like go out like, like Ian said, like go out, like have adventures, like do all these cool things.” - Anagha Das</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[2:51] Tell me more about Dos Equis</p><p>[5:30] How successful was the campaign?</p><p>[6:56] How did Dos Equis differentiate their brand with the slogan?</p><p>[14:48] What makes a great slogan?</p><p>[16:39] How could a good slogan affect your bottom line?</p><p>[19:48] Why should you make your slogan a CTA? </p><p>[27:18] How do you apply the takeaways to B2B Marketing?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guMrgRKKENI">Get nostalgic! Watch the Most Interesting Man in the World ads</a></p><p><a href="https://dosequis.com/about/history/">Learn more about Dos Equis</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYs_4vVKpgA">Take a look at Liquid Death’s Not a Water Boy campaign</a></p><p>Other slogan ideas: </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7ADWd9Psag">Coca Cola “Open Happiness”</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sMBhDv4sik">Apple “Think Different”</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AgbwhTHa7o">Slack “Where Work Happens”</a></p><p>About Remarkable!</p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2022 14:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Ian Faison, Dane Eckerle, Colin Stamps, Anagha Das, Meredith O&apos;Neil, Rex New, Scott Goodrich)</author>
      <link>https://www.caspianstudios.com/remarkable</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[Cue Latin jazz music] It is the content that sells itself. It ranks #1 – no matter what you Google. It is the most interesting B2B marketing content in the world. And it’s yours.</p><p>Or at least it could be, after listening to this episode. Because we’re showing you branding tricks from the Dos Equis Most Interesting Man in the World campaign.</p><p>In this episode, we break down the slogan that helped triple sales for Dos Equis. According to <a href="https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/50-of-people-look-to-a-slogan-to-understand-a-companys-purpose-compared-to-only-7-of-people-who-believe-the-logo-is-most-important-new-data-from-the-manifest-finds-301174779.html">PRNewswire</a>, about fifty percent of customers rely on your slogan when considering doing business with you. Few things are more important for B2B marketing, so we’re here to help you ensure your slogan is as amazing as your product is.</p><p><strong>Why Dos Equis?</strong></p><p>The brand’s slogan was a key part of the Most Interesting Man in the World campaign that nearly tripled business for Dos Equis. During the campaign, the number of cases of Dos Equis shipped increased by nearly 35%, and Heineken estimated that around 25% of its growth in the future would come from the Dos Equis brand. The ad also became a part of the cultural zeitgeist, inspiring countless memes, spoofs, and Halloween costumes. So the Most Interesting Man in the World campaign has paid off for Dos Equis. Could a similarly bold campaign pay off for your B2B marketing?</p><p><strong>About Dos Equis</strong></p><p>Dos Equis is a Mexican lager-style beer made by the Cuauhtémoc Moctezuma Brewery, based in Monterrey, Mexico. The brewery was founded by German immigrant Wilhelm Hasse in 1890 and  is currently owned by Heineken. The same brewery also produces Tecate and Sol. </p><p>The Most Interesting Man in the World ads were created by Karl Lieberman and Brandon Henderson for an agency called EuroRSCG, New York. They aired in the U.S. from 2007 to 2015. Jonathan Goldsmith played the titular character, and the spots were narrated by William Lyman. The campaign features the Most Interesting Man in the World, Hemingway-esque character whose worldly larger-than-life exploits include bench-pressing women, sewing his own stitches, and swan diving from cliffs. The Most Interesting Man would end the commercials by saying the brand’s two-part slogan: “Because of the campaign, the two-part slogan, “I don’t always drink beer, but when I do I prefer Dos Equis,” and “Stay thirsty, my friends,” the Dos Equis brand decidedly set itself apart. It wasn’t just for the leisurely beach-going dude – it was for the dudes who aspired to be something more…interesting.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Dos Equis:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Your slogan should speak to your customer’s aspirations.</strong> Do consumer research to get to know your customers. Whether it’s your current or target customers, find out what motivates them. Is it wealth? A desire to belong? Getting a thrill? The team behind the Dos Equis slogan got wind that their male customers wanted to feel like they were more sophisticated. Working from this, they devised The Most Interesting Man in the World campaign.</li><li><strong>Would I wear the t-shirt?</strong> This is self-explanatory. But let's dig deeper into what that means. If someone wants to wear your brand's T-shirt, then they also feel an emotional investment in your brand. So remember, a catchy slogan isn't enough. You've also got to figure out how to create brand ambassadors through your campaigns.</li><li><strong>Make it a CTA.</strong> Call your customers to action with your slogan. Many of the greats do this: Nike tells its customers to “just do it," Subway challenges theirs to “eat fresh,” and Toyota extends an invitation by simply saying, “Let’s go places.” These CTA’s are incredibly simple, and that’s also why audiences respond to them. An effective CTA gets potential customers’ attention and deepens engagement with current customers. Ultimately, it guides them to your marketing funnel and leads them to conversion.</li></ul><p><strong>Key Quotes</strong></p><p>*”The slogan is, ‘Stay thirsty, my friends.’ And like that's a key differentiator, right? Is like the aspirational part of your slogan, which is, you want your community or your fans or whatever, or the people who purchase your product, uh, to do X, Y, and Z, to live a great life, to explore, to, you know, innovate, to do whatever it is that you want them to do. Like that is aspirational. Talking about your company is very different. And like, this is what I call the wear the t-shirt moment is like, would you wear a t-shirt that says, I prefer Dos Equis?” - Ian Faison</p><p>*”When you talk about creating an iconic character to deliver the slogan and the message, it's like people dress up like this guy for Halloween, the actor, the actor slash in in character was invited to the White House to sit with Obama. I mean, that's insane.” - Dane Eckerle</p><p>*”Here always has to be something that you're telling your audience to go look at, to go read, to go watch, to go like follow up on or talk to someone. And I feel like this is probably the most like natural, like funny, relatable cTA that's been part of a brand's slogan, like, just stay thirsty, my friends like go out like, like Ian said, like go out, like have adventures, like do all these cool things.” - Anagha Das</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[2:51] Tell me more about Dos Equis</p><p>[5:30] How successful was the campaign?</p><p>[6:56] How did Dos Equis differentiate their brand with the slogan?</p><p>[14:48] What makes a great slogan?</p><p>[16:39] How could a good slogan affect your bottom line?</p><p>[19:48] Why should you make your slogan a CTA? </p><p>[27:18] How do you apply the takeaways to B2B Marketing?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guMrgRKKENI">Get nostalgic! Watch the Most Interesting Man in the World ads</a></p><p><a href="https://dosequis.com/about/history/">Learn more about Dos Equis</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYs_4vVKpgA">Take a look at Liquid Death’s Not a Water Boy campaign</a></p><p>Other slogan ideas: </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7ADWd9Psag">Coca Cola “Open Happiness”</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sMBhDv4sik">Apple “Think Different”</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AgbwhTHa7o">Slack “Where Work Happens”</a></p><p>About Remarkable!</p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>[Cue Latin jazz music] It is the content that sells itself. It ranks #1 – no matter what you Google. It is the most interesting B2B marketing content in the world. And it’s yours.

Or at least it could be, after listening to this episode. Because we’re showing you branding tricks from the Dos Equis Most Interesting Man in the World campaign.

In this episode, we break down the slogan that helped triple sales for Dos Equis. According to PRNewswire, about fifty percent of customers rely on your slogan when considering doing business with you. Few things are more important for B2B marketing, so we’re here to help you ensure your slogan is as amazing as your product is.</itunes:summary>
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In this episode, we break down the slogan that helped triple sales for Dos Equis. According to PRNewswire, about fifty percent of customers rely on your slogan when considering doing business with you. Few things are more important for B2B marketing, so we’re here to help you ensure your slogan is as amazing as your product is.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>If you want to make a big impact in a 15-second ad, there’s one trick of the trade that instantly gets an emotional response: place your ad in a relatable setting.  </p><p>It could be the DMV, an airport, or a drive through —what matters is that it’s a place your audience has been to. They know what it’s like getting a bad driver’s license photo, or struggling to find an outlet to charge your phone while you wait for a connecting flight. By putting your story in a familiar setting, you don’t need to do very much explaining – and you can capitalize on those precious seconds to highlight your message. </p><p>This week, we’re talking about Mean Girls. Mean Girls is a perfect example of what it means to have a relevant, reminiscent setting. In this episode of REMARKABLE, we talk about how to do the same in your B2B marketing.</p><p><strong>Why Mean Girls?</strong></p><p>Mean Girls is a modern classic that introduced the word "fetch" into our vocabulary. But we picked it for this week's episode because it's an excellent example of a film taking a common setting and building off it. You know what setting we're talking about: high school. The movie's production design evokes the all-too-familiar feel of the American high school. But it's not just that; it's also the scenes in the movie as well. We’re talking about high school — the physical place as well as the experience. Mean Girls perfectly captures both, so you watch the movie and go, “I’ve been there. I know what that’s like.” The high school feels familiar because it’s pretty generic. Everything from the hallways and lockers to the cafeteria and classrooms in the movie look like ones in real high schools across the U.S. But it’s more than that — it’s the experience of going to a new school, trying to make friends, having crushes, getting bullied…there’s something for everyone.</p><p>Did you know that Mean Girls is based on a self-help book? That’s right, Tina Fey wrote the screenplay after reading <i>Queen Bees & Wannabes: Helping Your Daughter Survive Cliques, Gossip, Boyfriends & Other Realities of Adolescence</i> by Rosalind Wiseman. The book was written for parents who wanted to help their teen daughters better navigate the social complexities at school. Fey took key components of the high school experience from the book, along with unforgettable characters and a juicy plot, and Mean Girls was born. </p><p>Mean Girls became a state-of-the-art classic because of how Tina Fey elevated the high school genre. With her cutting sense of humor and subversive voice, she made Mean Girls one of the most quotable and enduring of its kind.</p><p><strong>A Quick Mean Girls Refresher </strong></p><p>Mean Girls tells the story of Cady Heron, who gets her first taste of public high school after her scientist parents move from Africa to the Chicago suburbs. Outcasts Janis and Damien show Cady the ropes, but Cady winds up going her own way. Despite her friends’ warnings, she is drawn into the cool girl clique, “The Plastics,” led by Regina George. Cady finds out how cutthroat The Plastics truly are after making the mistake of falling for Regina’s ex. So Cady, Janis and Damien plot to bring on Regina’s downfall.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Mean Girls: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Set the stage.</strong> We know it’s important to choose a memorable setting, but don’t forget to give it some history. On Cady’s first day in class, she was told not to sit in a certain seat because Kristin Hadley’s boyfriend sits there. Do we know who Kristin Hadley is? No. But we’ve all walked into a situation where we accidentally took someone’s seat. B2B companies can take common themes and everyday elements to create a familiar setting for their audience.</li><li><strong>Use compelling visuals.</strong> Use imagery that's authentic and tells your brand’s story. Mean Girls is set in a real school that’s still functioning today. The interior shots of the high school in Mean Girls were filmed at Montclair High School in Montclair, New Jersey. There’s a reason why the style of the halls, the lockers, the cafeteria and classrooms look like the ones at your school. MHS was built in 1959, during the baby boom that followed World War II. In order to efficiently meet the needs of a growing population, school architecture designs were standardized, and the components pre-fabricated. That’s why the school in Mean Girls looks so real to all of us – and don’t forget that it’s also a real, actual school! That’s why we identify so much with the film, even if it takes place in a heightened, comedic world. Bottom line: in your B2B marketing campaigns, pull visuals that will have an emotional impact on your audience.</li><li><strong>Make it entertaining.</strong> Here we go, talking about edu-tainment again! Don’t forget to add some humor to your marketing. It’s an understatement to say that Mean Girls is a prime example of this – after all, Tina Fey wrote the screenplay. But she uses comedy to explore the bullying that happens among teen girls – while also keeping the audience engaged through tight plotting, intelligent pacing, and well-drawn characters. Do the same with your B2B work. Create ads that will immediately captivate your audience and leave them wanting more. Entertaining tidbits can be weaved into assets like LI ads, social posts, video campaigns, and blog posts. Remember, the shorter the asset (think short social posts or 30 second video ads), the higher the chances of engagement and viewership are.</li></ul><p><strong>Key Quotes</strong></p><p>*”If you only have 15 or 30 seconds in the age of TikTok to grab somebody, if you're leaning into something that people know, to establish a setting, a time, a place, then you free up your runway to talk about the things that you really want to get across because those things are already built in.” - Dane Eckerle</p><p>*”When it comes to setting, it's about being really relatable but also super relevant to your audience. When B2B marketers split up their target audience into personas, for example, know that they're people first, and more than just personas. They’re professionals who want to make better impressions and build stronger relationships. You have to be relatable to sell to them as a marketer, but also show your true self and be authentic. And I think that comes with knowing exactly the groups that they’re in and what they care about.“ - Anagha Das</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[1:13] What’s Mean Girls about?</p><p>[3:41] What does it mean to be relatable?</p><p>[7:10] Mean Girls’ box office success</p><p>[8:54] Why is the high school setting important in Mean Girls?</p><p>[12:05] Is there a psychological reason consumers gravitate towards relatable content? </p><p>[14:25] What are our marketing takeaways from Mean Girls?</p><p>[18:48] How do you apply the takeaways to B2B Marketing?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.14a9f7b6-f489-ca92-cd51-1718793de8d8?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch Mean Girls</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/lifeinsidedropbox">Check out #LifeinsideDropBox</a></p><p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@hubspot/video/7170750070457896234?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1">Take a look at how HubSpot highlights employees</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc2YoauO3f0">And then there’s Corporate Bro</a></p><p><a href="https://www.vidyard.com/blog/">Vidyard is doing cool stuff with videos too</a></p><p><strong>About the Show</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to make a big impact in a 15-second ad, there’s one trick of the trade that instantly gets an emotional response: place your ad in a relatable setting.  </p><p>It could be the DMV, an airport, or a drive through —what matters is that it’s a place your audience has been to. They know what it’s like getting a bad driver’s license photo, or struggling to find an outlet to charge your phone while you wait for a connecting flight. By putting your story in a familiar setting, you don’t need to do very much explaining – and you can capitalize on those precious seconds to highlight your message. </p><p>This week, we’re talking about Mean Girls. Mean Girls is a perfect example of what it means to have a relevant, reminiscent setting. In this episode of REMARKABLE, we talk about how to do the same in your B2B marketing.</p><p><strong>Why Mean Girls?</strong></p><p>Mean Girls is a modern classic that introduced the word "fetch" into our vocabulary. But we picked it for this week's episode because it's an excellent example of a film taking a common setting and building off it. You know what setting we're talking about: high school. The movie's production design evokes the all-too-familiar feel of the American high school. But it's not just that; it's also the scenes in the movie as well. We’re talking about high school — the physical place as well as the experience. Mean Girls perfectly captures both, so you watch the movie and go, “I’ve been there. I know what that’s like.” The high school feels familiar because it’s pretty generic. Everything from the hallways and lockers to the cafeteria and classrooms in the movie look like ones in real high schools across the U.S. But it’s more than that — it’s the experience of going to a new school, trying to make friends, having crushes, getting bullied…there’s something for everyone.</p><p>Did you know that Mean Girls is based on a self-help book? That’s right, Tina Fey wrote the screenplay after reading <i>Queen Bees & Wannabes: Helping Your Daughter Survive Cliques, Gossip, Boyfriends & Other Realities of Adolescence</i> by Rosalind Wiseman. The book was written for parents who wanted to help their teen daughters better navigate the social complexities at school. Fey took key components of the high school experience from the book, along with unforgettable characters and a juicy plot, and Mean Girls was born. </p><p>Mean Girls became a state-of-the-art classic because of how Tina Fey elevated the high school genre. With her cutting sense of humor and subversive voice, she made Mean Girls one of the most quotable and enduring of its kind.</p><p><strong>A Quick Mean Girls Refresher </strong></p><p>Mean Girls tells the story of Cady Heron, who gets her first taste of public high school after her scientist parents move from Africa to the Chicago suburbs. Outcasts Janis and Damien show Cady the ropes, but Cady winds up going her own way. Despite her friends’ warnings, she is drawn into the cool girl clique, “The Plastics,” led by Regina George. Cady finds out how cutthroat The Plastics truly are after making the mistake of falling for Regina’s ex. So Cady, Janis and Damien plot to bring on Regina’s downfall.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Mean Girls: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Set the stage.</strong> We know it’s important to choose a memorable setting, but don’t forget to give it some history. On Cady’s first day in class, she was told not to sit in a certain seat because Kristin Hadley’s boyfriend sits there. Do we know who Kristin Hadley is? No. But we’ve all walked into a situation where we accidentally took someone’s seat. B2B companies can take common themes and everyday elements to create a familiar setting for their audience.</li><li><strong>Use compelling visuals.</strong> Use imagery that's authentic and tells your brand’s story. Mean Girls is set in a real school that’s still functioning today. The interior shots of the high school in Mean Girls were filmed at Montclair High School in Montclair, New Jersey. There’s a reason why the style of the halls, the lockers, the cafeteria and classrooms look like the ones at your school. MHS was built in 1959, during the baby boom that followed World War II. In order to efficiently meet the needs of a growing population, school architecture designs were standardized, and the components pre-fabricated. That’s why the school in Mean Girls looks so real to all of us – and don’t forget that it’s also a real, actual school! That’s why we identify so much with the film, even if it takes place in a heightened, comedic world. Bottom line: in your B2B marketing campaigns, pull visuals that will have an emotional impact on your audience.</li><li><strong>Make it entertaining.</strong> Here we go, talking about edu-tainment again! Don’t forget to add some humor to your marketing. It’s an understatement to say that Mean Girls is a prime example of this – after all, Tina Fey wrote the screenplay. But she uses comedy to explore the bullying that happens among teen girls – while also keeping the audience engaged through tight plotting, intelligent pacing, and well-drawn characters. Do the same with your B2B work. Create ads that will immediately captivate your audience and leave them wanting more. Entertaining tidbits can be weaved into assets like LI ads, social posts, video campaigns, and blog posts. Remember, the shorter the asset (think short social posts or 30 second video ads), the higher the chances of engagement and viewership are.</li></ul><p><strong>Key Quotes</strong></p><p>*”If you only have 15 or 30 seconds in the age of TikTok to grab somebody, if you're leaning into something that people know, to establish a setting, a time, a place, then you free up your runway to talk about the things that you really want to get across because those things are already built in.” - Dane Eckerle</p><p>*”When it comes to setting, it's about being really relatable but also super relevant to your audience. When B2B marketers split up their target audience into personas, for example, know that they're people first, and more than just personas. They’re professionals who want to make better impressions and build stronger relationships. You have to be relatable to sell to them as a marketer, but also show your true self and be authentic. And I think that comes with knowing exactly the groups that they’re in and what they care about.“ - Anagha Das</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[1:13] What’s Mean Girls about?</p><p>[3:41] What does it mean to be relatable?</p><p>[7:10] Mean Girls’ box office success</p><p>[8:54] Why is the high school setting important in Mean Girls?</p><p>[12:05] Is there a psychological reason consumers gravitate towards relatable content? </p><p>[14:25] What are our marketing takeaways from Mean Girls?</p><p>[18:48] How do you apply the takeaways to B2B Marketing?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.14a9f7b6-f489-ca92-cd51-1718793de8d8?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb">Watch Mean Girls</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/lifeinsidedropbox">Check out #LifeinsideDropBox</a></p><p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@hubspot/video/7170750070457896234?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1">Take a look at how HubSpot highlights employees</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc2YoauO3f0">And then there’s Corporate Bro</a></p><p><a href="https://www.vidyard.com/blog/">Vidyard is doing cool stuff with videos too</a></p><p><strong>About the Show</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>The Scuffed Podcast: How to Score a Dedicated Community</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>In the B2B world, we think about growing our customer base. But one thing B2B marketers often overlook is how to transform your customer base into a community. </p><p>You may be wondering, isn’t a customer base and a community the same thing? Not exactly. A community is your customer base taken to the next level, with a lot more engagement. It’s a network of relationships based on passion, instead of transactions. And it’s this passion that brings like-minded people together to form a dedicated community that outlasts and outperforms any regular customer base. </p><p>In 2017, the U.S. Men’s National Soccer Team failed to qualify for the World Cup for the first time since 1986. It was this devastating low point that birthed a community that was so determined to see the underdog make a big comeback. Enter the Scuffed podcast.</p><p>Scuffed was started by Adam Belz and Greg Velasquez out of pure love for American soccer. And in the last five years, they’ve created, grown, and nutured a robust community of listeners who are engaged across a variety of platforms.</p><p>In this episode of REMARKABLE, we explore the nuances of community-building, and how you can use it in your B2B marketing.</p><p><strong>Why the Scuffed Podcast?</strong></p><p>You’re probably wondering why we picked the Scuffed podcast for this episode. Welp, for one, our CEO, Ian Faison, is a member of the community himself. He doesn’t just listen to their podcast; he also subscribes to their Patreon and hangs out on their Discord!. Ian was drawn to The Scuffed podcast team’s genuine love for American soccer. These guys are INTO IT. And that authentic passion is like a community-building magnet.</p><p>Scuffed brings together a community of American soccer lovers and lets them choose their own adventure when it comes to accessing content.. They have their weekly podcast episodes, with over 300 episodes that are currently publicly available. Then, they have an additional layer of content for those who want to support the show by paying a little every month. Patrons gain access to exclusive episodes along with Scuffed’s exclusive Discord channels where subscribers chat about recent games, favorite players, stats, share memes, etc. </p><p>The members of the Scuffed podcast team (Adam, Greg, Vince, Jordan, and Watke) are all actively engaged on Scuffed’s Patreon and Twitter accounts. They frequently interact with followers, chat with them about the show, and even arrange in-person meetups. </p><p>That right there is a hat trick when it comes to building a powerful community.</p><p><strong>About Scuffed</strong></p><p>The Scuffed Podcast is a weekly show about American soccer with a focus on the U.S. Men’s National Team. On the podcast, hosts Adam Belz and Greg Velasquez recap games, talk strategy, chat about their favorite soccer personalities, and do occasional interviews with players and coaches. Adam and Greg founded Scuffed in 2017 after the USMNT failed to qualify for the World Cup. Since then, they added a Monday Review with Chris Russell and Vince Irvin, a Discord, and a newsletter.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From the Scuffed Podcast: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Be authentic.</strong> We know it sounds cliche, but it’s a cliche for a reason. If you center your business around a product or service you truly believe in, chances are, other people will believe in it too. And a community will be born naturally! The Scuffed guys just love soccer, and they want to see the U.S. Men’s National Team qualify for (and win!) the World Cup. They’ve followed the team for years, analyzing their every move, and can give expert insights about their progress because of it. B2B companies can learn from this by building a brand/product/service that emanates passion and has a common goal audiences can rally behind. </li><li><strong>Release consistent, timely content.</strong> How has Scuffed stayed so relevant for so long? It’s not just that they’re passionate about soccer – it’s also that they’re consistent. By creating a regular and consistent content schedule, they’ve built trust amongst their community. People know when the next episode will drop, when in-person events will happen, and when Adam and team will be responding to replies on Twitter. The Scuffed team also goes the extra mile for their audience and creates reaction episodes for special events, like the release of the World Cup roster. The Scuffed team knows their fans (do you want to bet they’re called Scuffers?) will want to hear about it. So, bottom line: be sure to release relevant, relatable content on a regular cadence, and your audience will steadily grow (and the real fans will be stoked for any bonus content). </li><li><strong>Interact with your audience.</strong> Guess what? Community is a two-way street! So as long as your audience is responding to your social posts, posting in your Slack or Discord channels, or even sending you emails — leaders should be engaging with their clients just as much. It’s this two-way interaction that sets the tone for a community. More times than not, community members (think mega fans of your business) end up creating their own content. User-generated content validates both the work of the contributor, and adds more material to your usual content roster. Scuffed community members often make their own videos and highlight reels that the Scuffed team re-posts on the Scuffed channels, giving credit to their community members. This helps build trust and a stronger relationship with community members. Engaging with your audience across multiple platforms will only help you as you grow your B2B community. </li><li><strong>Meet your community where they are.</strong>  A lot of Scuffed’s success can be attributed to the numerous platforms and channels they offer content to for their community. Whether it’s the weekly podcast, email, newsletter, social media, Discord, videos, and more, Scuffed fans enjoy having options for how to tune in to content. So, give your audience the power to choose how plugged into your B2B community they can be. For example, some people may love interacting with your business every day, via Twitter and Slack channels. Others may prefer to check into the community once or twice every few weeks by reading your newsletter or watching video content. Giving your community the choice on how they plug in allows them to consume your content the way they want.</li></ul><p><strong>Key Quotes</strong></p><p>*”When I think of community outside of the context of making a podcast, I think of old kinds of communities. Like rural farming communities or urban communities where people are living together and suffering together, and sacrificing for each other. And so I don't know how to relate that to a Discord server. Like, I don't know what the connection is between those two things, because they're both technically a community. But when you're living online with people, how do you suffer with them or sacrifice for them? Do we even know how to do that yet as humans?” - Adam Belz</p><p>*“Repeatability is so crucial because you can have a good idea and maybe even execute it once. But if it's not something you can just go back to and be able to do over and over again, it's not something you can offer as a promise to the listener.” - Adam Belz</p><p>*”We're not very calculated when it comes to building a community or maximizing our reach. We're just kind of doing our thing. We're just some guys making a podcast because they love soccer and they love the national team. And I think the chillness of it was appealing to people.” - Adam Belz</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] How to build a community</p><p>[2:00] Introducing Adam Belz of Scuffed</p><p>[3:47] What are our takeaways?</p><p>[8:00] How did Adam start the Scuffed podcast?</p><p>[13:40] What’s the difference between building a virtual vs. in-person community?</p><p>[16:48] What assets does the Scuffed podcast have?</p><p>[19:48] How did Adam grow the Scuffed community?</p><p>[24:58] How is Scuffed offering different levels of engagement for listeners?</p><p>[30:20] How do you differentiate yourself from competitors?</p><p>[33:49] How do you manage negative interactions within the community?</p><p>[43:37] Why does being authentic attract community engagement?</p><p>[48:54] What does Scuffed do with user-generated content?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/scuffed-u-s-soccer-world-cup-yanks-abroad-futbol-in-america/id1352231546">Listen to the Scuffed Podcast</a></p><p><a href="https://www.scuffedhq.com/">Check out the Scuffed website</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-belz-3069b5b/">Connect with Adam on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/adambelz?lang=en">Follow Adam on Twitter</a></p><p><a href="https://www.ussoccer.com/teams/usmnt">Follow the U.S. Men’s National Soccer Team</a></p><p><strong>About the Show</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), and Adam Belz (Co-Founder and Host of Scuffed). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the B2B world, we think about growing our customer base. But one thing B2B marketers often overlook is how to transform your customer base into a community. </p><p>You may be wondering, isn’t a customer base and a community the same thing? Not exactly. A community is your customer base taken to the next level, with a lot more engagement. It’s a network of relationships based on passion, instead of transactions. And it’s this passion that brings like-minded people together to form a dedicated community that outlasts and outperforms any regular customer base. </p><p>In 2017, the U.S. Men’s National Soccer Team failed to qualify for the World Cup for the first time since 1986. It was this devastating low point that birthed a community that was so determined to see the underdog make a big comeback. Enter the Scuffed podcast.</p><p>Scuffed was started by Adam Belz and Greg Velasquez out of pure love for American soccer. And in the last five years, they’ve created, grown, and nutured a robust community of listeners who are engaged across a variety of platforms.</p><p>In this episode of REMARKABLE, we explore the nuances of community-building, and how you can use it in your B2B marketing.</p><p><strong>Why the Scuffed Podcast?</strong></p><p>You’re probably wondering why we picked the Scuffed podcast for this episode. Welp, for one, our CEO, Ian Faison, is a member of the community himself. He doesn’t just listen to their podcast; he also subscribes to their Patreon and hangs out on their Discord!. Ian was drawn to The Scuffed podcast team’s genuine love for American soccer. These guys are INTO IT. And that authentic passion is like a community-building magnet.</p><p>Scuffed brings together a community of American soccer lovers and lets them choose their own adventure when it comes to accessing content.. They have their weekly podcast episodes, with over 300 episodes that are currently publicly available. Then, they have an additional layer of content for those who want to support the show by paying a little every month. Patrons gain access to exclusive episodes along with Scuffed’s exclusive Discord channels where subscribers chat about recent games, favorite players, stats, share memes, etc. </p><p>The members of the Scuffed podcast team (Adam, Greg, Vince, Jordan, and Watke) are all actively engaged on Scuffed’s Patreon and Twitter accounts. They frequently interact with followers, chat with them about the show, and even arrange in-person meetups. </p><p>That right there is a hat trick when it comes to building a powerful community.</p><p><strong>About Scuffed</strong></p><p>The Scuffed Podcast is a weekly show about American soccer with a focus on the U.S. Men’s National Team. On the podcast, hosts Adam Belz and Greg Velasquez recap games, talk strategy, chat about their favorite soccer personalities, and do occasional interviews with players and coaches. Adam and Greg founded Scuffed in 2017 after the USMNT failed to qualify for the World Cup. Since then, they added a Monday Review with Chris Russell and Vince Irvin, a Discord, and a newsletter.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From the Scuffed Podcast: </strong></p><ul><li><strong>Be authentic.</strong> We know it sounds cliche, but it’s a cliche for a reason. If you center your business around a product or service you truly believe in, chances are, other people will believe in it too. And a community will be born naturally! The Scuffed guys just love soccer, and they want to see the U.S. Men’s National Team qualify for (and win!) the World Cup. They’ve followed the team for years, analyzing their every move, and can give expert insights about their progress because of it. B2B companies can learn from this by building a brand/product/service that emanates passion and has a common goal audiences can rally behind. </li><li><strong>Release consistent, timely content.</strong> How has Scuffed stayed so relevant for so long? It’s not just that they’re passionate about soccer – it’s also that they’re consistent. By creating a regular and consistent content schedule, they’ve built trust amongst their community. People know when the next episode will drop, when in-person events will happen, and when Adam and team will be responding to replies on Twitter. The Scuffed team also goes the extra mile for their audience and creates reaction episodes for special events, like the release of the World Cup roster. The Scuffed team knows their fans (do you want to bet they’re called Scuffers?) will want to hear about it. So, bottom line: be sure to release relevant, relatable content on a regular cadence, and your audience will steadily grow (and the real fans will be stoked for any bonus content). </li><li><strong>Interact with your audience.</strong> Guess what? Community is a two-way street! So as long as your audience is responding to your social posts, posting in your Slack or Discord channels, or even sending you emails — leaders should be engaging with their clients just as much. It’s this two-way interaction that sets the tone for a community. More times than not, community members (think mega fans of your business) end up creating their own content. User-generated content validates both the work of the contributor, and adds more material to your usual content roster. Scuffed community members often make their own videos and highlight reels that the Scuffed team re-posts on the Scuffed channels, giving credit to their community members. This helps build trust and a stronger relationship with community members. Engaging with your audience across multiple platforms will only help you as you grow your B2B community. </li><li><strong>Meet your community where they are.</strong>  A lot of Scuffed’s success can be attributed to the numerous platforms and channels they offer content to for their community. Whether it’s the weekly podcast, email, newsletter, social media, Discord, videos, and more, Scuffed fans enjoy having options for how to tune in to content. So, give your audience the power to choose how plugged into your B2B community they can be. For example, some people may love interacting with your business every day, via Twitter and Slack channels. Others may prefer to check into the community once or twice every few weeks by reading your newsletter or watching video content. Giving your community the choice on how they plug in allows them to consume your content the way they want.</li></ul><p><strong>Key Quotes</strong></p><p>*”When I think of community outside of the context of making a podcast, I think of old kinds of communities. Like rural farming communities or urban communities where people are living together and suffering together, and sacrificing for each other. And so I don't know how to relate that to a Discord server. Like, I don't know what the connection is between those two things, because they're both technically a community. But when you're living online with people, how do you suffer with them or sacrifice for them? Do we even know how to do that yet as humans?” - Adam Belz</p><p>*“Repeatability is so crucial because you can have a good idea and maybe even execute it once. But if it's not something you can just go back to and be able to do over and over again, it's not something you can offer as a promise to the listener.” - Adam Belz</p><p>*”We're not very calculated when it comes to building a community or maximizing our reach. We're just kind of doing our thing. We're just some guys making a podcast because they love soccer and they love the national team. And I think the chillness of it was appealing to people.” - Adam Belz</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[0:55] How to build a community</p><p>[2:00] Introducing Adam Belz of Scuffed</p><p>[3:47] What are our takeaways?</p><p>[8:00] How did Adam start the Scuffed podcast?</p><p>[13:40] What’s the difference between building a virtual vs. in-person community?</p><p>[16:48] What assets does the Scuffed podcast have?</p><p>[19:48] How did Adam grow the Scuffed community?</p><p>[24:58] How is Scuffed offering different levels of engagement for listeners?</p><p>[30:20] How do you differentiate yourself from competitors?</p><p>[33:49] How do you manage negative interactions within the community?</p><p>[43:37] Why does being authentic attract community engagement?</p><p>[48:54] What does Scuffed do with user-generated content?</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/scuffed-u-s-soccer-world-cup-yanks-abroad-futbol-in-america/id1352231546">Listen to the Scuffed Podcast</a></p><p><a href="https://www.scuffedhq.com/">Check out the Scuffed website</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-belz-3069b5b/">Connect with Adam on LinkedIn</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/adambelz?lang=en">Follow Adam on Twitter</a></p><p><a href="https://www.ussoccer.com/teams/usmnt">Follow the U.S. Men’s National Soccer Team</a></p><p><strong>About the Show</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), and Adam Belz (Co-Founder and Host of Scuffed). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>In the B2B world, we think about growing our customer base. But one thing B2B marketers often overlook is how to transform your customer base into a community. 
 
You may be wondering, isn’t a customer base and a community the same thing? Not exactly. A community is your customer base taken to the next level, with a lot more engagement. It’s a network of relationships based on passion, instead of transactions. And it’s this passion that brings like-minded people together to form a dedicated community that outlasts and outperforms any regular customer base. 
 
In 2017, the U.S. Men’s National Soccer Team failed to qualify for the World Cup for the first time since 1986. It was this devastating low point that birthed a community that was so determined to see the underdog make a big comeback. Enter the Scuffed podcast.
 
Scuffed was started by Adam Belz and Greg Velasquez out of pure love for American soccer. And in the last five years, they’ve created, grown, and nutured a robust community of listeners who are engaged across a variety of platforms.
 
In this episode of REMARKABLE, we explore the nuances of community-building, and how you can use it in your B2B marketing.</itunes:summary>
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You may be wondering, isn’t a customer base and a community the same thing? Not exactly. A community is your customer base taken to the next level, with a lot more engagement. It’s a network of relationships based on passion, instead of transactions. And it’s this passion that brings like-minded people together to form a dedicated community that outlasts and outperforms any regular customer base. 
 
In 2017, the U.S. Men’s National Soccer Team failed to qualify for the World Cup for the first time since 1986. It was this devastating low point that birthed a community that was so determined to see the underdog make a big comeback. Enter the Scuffed podcast.
 
Scuffed was started by Adam Belz and Greg Velasquez out of pure love for American soccer. And in the last five years, they’ve created, grown, and nutured a robust community of listeners who are engaged across a variety of platforms.
 
In this episode of REMARKABLE, we explore the nuances of community-building, and how you can use it in your B2B marketing.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Ocean&apos;s 11: How to Bring Together an All-Star Ensemble for Your B2B Marketing Campaign</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>The word “ensemble” might make you think of a group of performers all working in tandem. But what happens when we apply it to B2B marketing? </p><p>In 2001, an ensemble of all-star actors outdid any other cast…maybe ever.</p><p>George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Julia Roberts, Matt Damon, Andy Garcia, Don Cheadle, Bernie Mac, Casey Affleck – actors at the top of their game.</p><p>Each one could draw their own crowd. But together? They’re unstoppable. </p><p>Add in the sparkling backdrop of the Vegas strip and the tension of a high-stakes heist, and you have yourself a blockbuster. </p><p>That blockbuster is Ocean’s 11, and it upped the ante for what a star-studded ensemble could be.</p><p>In this episode of REMARKABLE, we take a look at the power of the ensemble in Ocean’s 11 and how you can use it in your B2B marketing.</p><p>The house always wins. Unless you bring together a powerful ensemble. And today we’re taking the house with some B2B tips on bringing together an ensemble of high rolling sharks.</p><p><strong>Why Ocean’s 11?</strong></p><p>Alright, so we all love Ocean’s 11. But why’d we pick it for this week’s Remarkable episode? </p><p>Because of the insanely hot cast – and we aren’t just talking about their cheekbones. Ocean’s 11 is packed with the best of the best, including George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Matt Damon, Julia Roberts, Bernie Mac, Eddie Jemison, Casey Affleck, Don Cheadle, Carl Reiner, Elliot Gould, and Andy Garcia. Even Viola Davis makes a cameo – well, sort of. Remember Danny Ocean’s exit interview from the prison scene? Viola Davis voices the officer. Any of those actors featured in a film would sell out opening night at the movie theater. But all of them billed together is unprecedented! </p><p>Aside from the star-studded cast, the characters they play have huge personalities of their own. The eleven-character ensemble of criminals boasts a myriad of talents, from pick-pocketing to con-artistry to speed racing. In other words, they have all the important skills needed to pull off a heist.</p><p><strong>A Quick Ocean’s 11 Refresher</strong></p><p>In case you’ve been living under a rock for the past few decades…</p><p>Ocean’s 11 is a heist movie about a string of Las Vegas casino robberies. The OG movie was filmed in 1960 and starred Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin and Sammy Davis, Jr. </p><p>It was remade in 2001, with a cast just as star-studded as the original. The film was one of the biggest hits of the year, bringing in over $450 million in box office. But it wasn’t just the cast that made the movie such a success. Behind the scenes, the craftsmanship was just as impressive. Ocean’s 11 was directed by Steven Soderbergh, who had just become one of only three directors to be nominated twice for Best Director in the same year (he won the Oscar for directing Traffic and “lost” for directing Erin Brockovich). It’s a classic movie formula: an amazing cast + a director at the top of his game = instant classic.</p><p><strong>Who’s Who?</strong></p><p>Danny Ocean: The Mastermind (George Clooney)</p><p>Rusty Ryan: The Right-Hand Man (Brad Pitt)</p><p>Tess Ocean: The Love Interest (Julia Roberts)</p><p>The Malloy Brothers: The Drivers (Casey Affleck & Scott Caan)</p><p>Livingston Dell: Electronics (Eddie Jemiston)</p><p>Basher Tarr: Munitions  (Don Cheadle)</p><p>The Amazing Yen: The Grease Man (Shaobo Qin)</p><p>Linus Caldwell: The Pickpocket (Matt Damon) </p><p>Frank Catton: The Casino Employee (Bernie Mac)</p><p>Reuben Tishkoff: The Bankroll (Elliott Gould)</p><p>Saul Bloom: The Con Artist (Carl Reiner)</p><p><strong>Pick Your Teams Carefully </strong></p><p>Why do we connect so much with the characters in Ocean’s 11? </p><p>Their backstories and skillsets are both distinct and relatable, a combination that helps us empathize with them. But Danny Ocean has also picked a team that compliments each other perfectly. Each character brings a unique set of skills to the table that no other character can do –  imagine if Linus tried to pull off one of The Amazing Yen’s stunts! The characters each have their special talents, and they work well together. That’s what makes them a great team, and it’s why people who’ve watched this movie across the globe root for them. </p><p>The cast also has amazing chemistry. While watching Ocean’s 11, we wonder – who in our own friends and family is our Danny Ocean, the smooth-talking romantic? We all know rambunctious brothers like the Malloys – and we all wish we knew Don Cheadle!</p><p>But we relate to characters in movies all the time. Heck, that’s what makes a great movie! But creating chemistry on screen takes intention, effort, and talent. It’s not just the actors working together – it’s the writing, the directing, the costume design, the editing…all of it comes together to create what we in B2B would call a high-value touch point. And the strength of the connections onscreen is what makes this film  Remarkable.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Ocean’s 11</strong></p><ul><li>Make characters for the personas you’re marketing to. There’s a team member for everyone among the Ocean’s 11 crew. Whether you like the Malloy brothers because they’re jokesters or you relate to Linus Caldwell because he goes against the grain, there’s a character in here for everyone to latch onto. Plus they all have a robust, shared history, which makes them feel more real. So, how’s this applicable to your B2B marketing? For your next campaign, make characters or personas your customers can identify with. Progressive does a great job creating characters to bring their business to life in their ads. They have Flo, their staple insurance spokeswoman; Dr. Rick, a parental life coach who advises people on buying homes; and other characters who tell Progressive’s story. Salesforce is a B2B company that creates characters for their brand narrative, and they’ve created characters so recognizable that people line up to take photos with life-sized versions of them at Dreamforce! That’s the power of harnessing storytelling in B2B marketing – by creating characters that speak to your audience, you have the opportunity to create powerful brand loyalty.</li><li>Build the best team. Find people who are specialists in their field to fulfill their role in your project or marketing team. Did you know The Amazing Yen, played by Shaobo Qin, was discovered while performing with the Peking Acrobats? Ocean’s 11 was his first acting role. Crazy, right?! In other words, no stunt double required – he actually pulled off that flip in the vault to avoid setting off any sensors near the floor. This casting is a perfect example of finding the right actor <i>and also </i>finding the right role within the heist team. The bottom line: In your B2B marketing, match each of your team member’s strengths to their role, and you can successfully pull off any project.</li><li>Create a sense of purpose. Danny Ocean and Rusty Ryan bring together their team around a sole mission: a massive heist. Together, they go over the plan and each of their roles within it. Because there’s a reward for successful completion of the mission (about $13M each), it motivates each of them to do their part. There’s also a major caveat that if any one of them messes up, no one will get paid (and worse). So bring your team together around a clear mission with defined roles for each member of the team. Define a shared set of KPIs with clear expectations and work together to achieve your goals.</li></ul><p><strong>Key Quotes</strong></p><p>*”There's a lot of different ways there that B2B companies can pull from A-list talent or just creating an ensemble, by having these different characters tell the story of your brand” - Anagha Das</p><p>*“There's a cool opportunity [for] a business to make an ad where they have their own characters and there's like a story that they build with each one. B2B companies can do the same concept with their personas and create a character based on each persona. Similar to Ocean’s 11, they can even incorporate some of those cinematic storytelling aspects and play that out among the characters.” - Colin Stamps</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[1:17] What's Ocean's 11 about?</p><p>[1:55] What's an ensemble?</p><p>[3:10] How successful was Ocean's 11?</p><p>[4:31] Technique of the week: The Ensemble</p><p>[5:59] Why does the technique work when it comes to B2B marketing?</p><p>[9:17] Why is the ensemble an effective storytelling mechanism? </p><p>[11:04] Who's who in Ocean's 11?</p><p>[14:15] How do you use the ensemble in your marketing?</p><p>[18:45] More examples of using an ensemble in B2B marketing</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/60021783">Watch Ocean’s 11</a></p><p><a href="https://www.salesforce.com/blog/meet-trailhead-characters-blog/">Check out the Salesforce characters</a></p><p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@duolingo">Take a look at Duolingo on TikTok</a></p><p><a href="https://www.progressive.com/commercials-campaigns/">Meet Dr. Rick, Flo, and more at Progressive.com</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owGykVbfgUE">And here’s the Old Spice guy</a></p><p><a href="https://newsroom.statefarm.com/new-commercials-new-faces/">Look at how State Farm is partnering with athletes</a></p><p><strong>About the Show</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2022 20:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Ian Faison, Colin Stamps, Dane Eckerle, Anagha Das, Meredith O&apos;Neil, Rex New, Scott Goodrich)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The word “ensemble” might make you think of a group of performers all working in tandem. But what happens when we apply it to B2B marketing? </p><p>In 2001, an ensemble of all-star actors outdid any other cast…maybe ever.</p><p>George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Julia Roberts, Matt Damon, Andy Garcia, Don Cheadle, Bernie Mac, Casey Affleck – actors at the top of their game.</p><p>Each one could draw their own crowd. But together? They’re unstoppable. </p><p>Add in the sparkling backdrop of the Vegas strip and the tension of a high-stakes heist, and you have yourself a blockbuster. </p><p>That blockbuster is Ocean’s 11, and it upped the ante for what a star-studded ensemble could be.</p><p>In this episode of REMARKABLE, we take a look at the power of the ensemble in Ocean’s 11 and how you can use it in your B2B marketing.</p><p>The house always wins. Unless you bring together a powerful ensemble. And today we’re taking the house with some B2B tips on bringing together an ensemble of high rolling sharks.</p><p><strong>Why Ocean’s 11?</strong></p><p>Alright, so we all love Ocean’s 11. But why’d we pick it for this week’s Remarkable episode? </p><p>Because of the insanely hot cast – and we aren’t just talking about their cheekbones. Ocean’s 11 is packed with the best of the best, including George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Matt Damon, Julia Roberts, Bernie Mac, Eddie Jemison, Casey Affleck, Don Cheadle, Carl Reiner, Elliot Gould, and Andy Garcia. Even Viola Davis makes a cameo – well, sort of. Remember Danny Ocean’s exit interview from the prison scene? Viola Davis voices the officer. Any of those actors featured in a film would sell out opening night at the movie theater. But all of them billed together is unprecedented! </p><p>Aside from the star-studded cast, the characters they play have huge personalities of their own. The eleven-character ensemble of criminals boasts a myriad of talents, from pick-pocketing to con-artistry to speed racing. In other words, they have all the important skills needed to pull off a heist.</p><p><strong>A Quick Ocean’s 11 Refresher</strong></p><p>In case you’ve been living under a rock for the past few decades…</p><p>Ocean’s 11 is a heist movie about a string of Las Vegas casino robberies. The OG movie was filmed in 1960 and starred Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin and Sammy Davis, Jr. </p><p>It was remade in 2001, with a cast just as star-studded as the original. The film was one of the biggest hits of the year, bringing in over $450 million in box office. But it wasn’t just the cast that made the movie such a success. Behind the scenes, the craftsmanship was just as impressive. Ocean’s 11 was directed by Steven Soderbergh, who had just become one of only three directors to be nominated twice for Best Director in the same year (he won the Oscar for directing Traffic and “lost” for directing Erin Brockovich). It’s a classic movie formula: an amazing cast + a director at the top of his game = instant classic.</p><p><strong>Who’s Who?</strong></p><p>Danny Ocean: The Mastermind (George Clooney)</p><p>Rusty Ryan: The Right-Hand Man (Brad Pitt)</p><p>Tess Ocean: The Love Interest (Julia Roberts)</p><p>The Malloy Brothers: The Drivers (Casey Affleck & Scott Caan)</p><p>Livingston Dell: Electronics (Eddie Jemiston)</p><p>Basher Tarr: Munitions  (Don Cheadle)</p><p>The Amazing Yen: The Grease Man (Shaobo Qin)</p><p>Linus Caldwell: The Pickpocket (Matt Damon) </p><p>Frank Catton: The Casino Employee (Bernie Mac)</p><p>Reuben Tishkoff: The Bankroll (Elliott Gould)</p><p>Saul Bloom: The Con Artist (Carl Reiner)</p><p><strong>Pick Your Teams Carefully </strong></p><p>Why do we connect so much with the characters in Ocean’s 11? </p><p>Their backstories and skillsets are both distinct and relatable, a combination that helps us empathize with them. But Danny Ocean has also picked a team that compliments each other perfectly. Each character brings a unique set of skills to the table that no other character can do –  imagine if Linus tried to pull off one of The Amazing Yen’s stunts! The characters each have their special talents, and they work well together. That’s what makes them a great team, and it’s why people who’ve watched this movie across the globe root for them. </p><p>The cast also has amazing chemistry. While watching Ocean’s 11, we wonder – who in our own friends and family is our Danny Ocean, the smooth-talking romantic? We all know rambunctious brothers like the Malloys – and we all wish we knew Don Cheadle!</p><p>But we relate to characters in movies all the time. Heck, that’s what makes a great movie! But creating chemistry on screen takes intention, effort, and talent. It’s not just the actors working together – it’s the writing, the directing, the costume design, the editing…all of it comes together to create what we in B2B would call a high-value touch point. And the strength of the connections onscreen is what makes this film  Remarkable.</p><p><strong>What B2B Companies Can Learn From Ocean’s 11</strong></p><ul><li>Make characters for the personas you’re marketing to. There’s a team member for everyone among the Ocean’s 11 crew. Whether you like the Malloy brothers because they’re jokesters or you relate to Linus Caldwell because he goes against the grain, there’s a character in here for everyone to latch onto. Plus they all have a robust, shared history, which makes them feel more real. So, how’s this applicable to your B2B marketing? For your next campaign, make characters or personas your customers can identify with. Progressive does a great job creating characters to bring their business to life in their ads. They have Flo, their staple insurance spokeswoman; Dr. Rick, a parental life coach who advises people on buying homes; and other characters who tell Progressive’s story. Salesforce is a B2B company that creates characters for their brand narrative, and they’ve created characters so recognizable that people line up to take photos with life-sized versions of them at Dreamforce! That’s the power of harnessing storytelling in B2B marketing – by creating characters that speak to your audience, you have the opportunity to create powerful brand loyalty.</li><li>Build the best team. Find people who are specialists in their field to fulfill their role in your project or marketing team. Did you know The Amazing Yen, played by Shaobo Qin, was discovered while performing with the Peking Acrobats? Ocean’s 11 was his first acting role. Crazy, right?! In other words, no stunt double required – he actually pulled off that flip in the vault to avoid setting off any sensors near the floor. This casting is a perfect example of finding the right actor <i>and also </i>finding the right role within the heist team. The bottom line: In your B2B marketing, match each of your team member’s strengths to their role, and you can successfully pull off any project.</li><li>Create a sense of purpose. Danny Ocean and Rusty Ryan bring together their team around a sole mission: a massive heist. Together, they go over the plan and each of their roles within it. Because there’s a reward for successful completion of the mission (about $13M each), it motivates each of them to do their part. There’s also a major caveat that if any one of them messes up, no one will get paid (and worse). So bring your team together around a clear mission with defined roles for each member of the team. Define a shared set of KPIs with clear expectations and work together to achieve your goals.</li></ul><p><strong>Key Quotes</strong></p><p>*”There's a lot of different ways there that B2B companies can pull from A-list talent or just creating an ensemble, by having these different characters tell the story of your brand” - Anagha Das</p><p>*“There's a cool opportunity [for] a business to make an ad where they have their own characters and there's like a story that they build with each one. B2B companies can do the same concept with their personas and create a character based on each persona. Similar to Ocean’s 11, they can even incorporate some of those cinematic storytelling aspects and play that out among the characters.” - Colin Stamps</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>[1:17] What's Ocean's 11 about?</p><p>[1:55] What's an ensemble?</p><p>[3:10] How successful was Ocean's 11?</p><p>[4:31] Technique of the week: The Ensemble</p><p>[5:59] Why does the technique work when it comes to B2B marketing?</p><p>[9:17] Why is the ensemble an effective storytelling mechanism? </p><p>[11:04] Who's who in Ocean's 11?</p><p>[14:15] How do you use the ensemble in your marketing?</p><p>[18:45] More examples of using an ensemble in B2B marketing</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/60021783">Watch Ocean’s 11</a></p><p><a href="https://www.salesforce.com/blog/meet-trailhead-characters-blog/">Check out the Salesforce characters</a></p><p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@duolingo">Take a look at Duolingo on TikTok</a></p><p><a href="https://www.progressive.com/commercials-campaigns/">Meet Dr. Rick, Flo, and more at Progressive.com</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owGykVbfgUE">And here’s the Old Spice guy</a></p><p><a href="https://newsroom.statefarm.com/new-commercials-new-faces/">Look at how State Farm is partnering with athletes</a></p><p><strong>About the Show</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>The word “ensemble” might make you think of a group of performers all working in tandem. But what happens when we apply it to B2B marketing? 
 
In 2001, an ensemble of all-star actors outdid any other cast…maybe ever.
 
George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Julia Roberts, Matt Damon, Andy Garcia, Don Cheadle, Bernie Mac, Casey Affleck – actors at the top of their game.
 
Each one could draw their own crowd. But together? They’re unstoppable. 
 
Add in the sparkling backdrop of the Vegas strip and the tension of a high-stakes heist, and you have yourself a blockbuster. 
 
That blockbuster is Ocean’s 11, and it upped the ante for what a star-studded ensemble could be.
 
In this episode of REMARKABLE, we take a look at the power of the ensemble in Ocean’s 11 and how you can use it in your B2B marketing.
 
The house always wins. Unless you bring together a powerful ensemble. And today we’re taking the house with some B2B tips on bringing together an ensemble of high rolling sharks.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>The word “ensemble” might make you think of a group of performers all working in tandem. But what happens when we apply it to B2B marketing? 
 
In 2001, an ensemble of all-star actors outdid any other cast…maybe ever.
 
George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Julia Roberts, Matt Damon, Andy Garcia, Don Cheadle, Bernie Mac, Casey Affleck – actors at the top of their game.
 
Each one could draw their own crowd. But together? They’re unstoppable. 
 
Add in the sparkling backdrop of the Vegas strip and the tension of a high-stakes heist, and you have yourself a blockbuster. 
 
That blockbuster is Ocean’s 11, and it upped the ante for what a star-studded ensemble could be.
 
In this episode of REMARKABLE, we take a look at the power of the ensemble in Ocean’s 11 and how you can use it in your B2B marketing.
 
The house always wins. Unless you bring together a powerful ensemble. And today we’re taking the house with some B2B tips on bringing together an ensemble of high rolling sharks.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>What is puffery? How can you use it in your B2B content?</p><p>In the mid-2000s there was a King of Puffery. </p><p>He soared into our lives as the SHAM-WOW guy. </p><p>But his tour-de-force was the SLAP-CHOP. </p><p>His name was Vince Offer, and he changed infomercials (and quite literally our lives) forever. </p><p>In the first episode of REMARKABLE, we examine his use of puffery in the SLAP-CHOP commercials and how you can use it in your B2B marketing. </p><p>Stop having a boring tuna, stop having a boring life! </p><p>Let's slap those marketing troubles away and chop up some B2B marketing and content morsels for all to enjoy.</p><p><strong>Key Quote</strong></p><p>"There’s an opportunity to do this (for B2B companies). It’d be super interesting if I went on LinkedIn and there was a video from a technology company I follow and it was a fun, infomercial style video instead of a boring product demo…Just to engage with the audience in a different way. I think there’s an opportunity for that.” - Colin Stamps</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>*[1:38] What’s the Slap Chop?</p><p>*[3:33] Who is Vince Offer?</p><p>*[3:50] The magic of infomercials</p><p>*[4:55] Why Vince Offer’s marketing technique works</p><p>*[6:23] The use of exaggeration or “puffery” in marketing</p><p>*[7:07] Remarkable Technique of the Week: Puffery. Why does puffery in marketing work?</p><p>*[8:37] How to frame the Before / After in your marketing </p><p>*[10:08] Other marketing examples of puffery in B2B and B2C</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxGn2Egekic">Watch the Slap Chop Infomercial</a></p><p><a href="https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid%3AUSC-prelim-title15-chapter2-subchapter1&edition=prelim">Read the Fair Trade Commission Act</a></p><p><strong>About the Show</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2022 22:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>jon@caspianstudios.com (Ian Faison, Colin Stamps, Dane Eckerle, Anagha Das, Meredith O&apos;Neil, Scott Goodrich)</author>
      <link>https://www.caspianstudios.com/remarkable</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is puffery? How can you use it in your B2B content?</p><p>In the mid-2000s there was a King of Puffery. </p><p>He soared into our lives as the SHAM-WOW guy. </p><p>But his tour-de-force was the SLAP-CHOP. </p><p>His name was Vince Offer, and he changed infomercials (and quite literally our lives) forever. </p><p>In the first episode of REMARKABLE, we examine his use of puffery in the SLAP-CHOP commercials and how you can use it in your B2B marketing. </p><p>Stop having a boring tuna, stop having a boring life! </p><p>Let's slap those marketing troubles away and chop up some B2B marketing and content morsels for all to enjoy.</p><p><strong>Key Quote</strong></p><p>"There’s an opportunity to do this (for B2B companies). It’d be super interesting if I went on LinkedIn and there was a video from a technology company I follow and it was a fun, infomercial style video instead of a boring product demo…Just to engage with the audience in a different way. I think there’s an opportunity for that.” - Colin Stamps</p><p><strong>Time Stamps</strong></p><p>*[1:38] What’s the Slap Chop?</p><p>*[3:33] Who is Vince Offer?</p><p>*[3:50] The magic of infomercials</p><p>*[4:55] Why Vince Offer’s marketing technique works</p><p>*[6:23] The use of exaggeration or “puffery” in marketing</p><p>*[7:07] Remarkable Technique of the Week: Puffery. Why does puffery in marketing work?</p><p>*[8:37] How to frame the Before / After in your marketing </p><p>*[10:08] Other marketing examples of puffery in B2B and B2C</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxGn2Egekic">Watch the Slap Chop Infomercial</a></p><p><a href="https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid%3AUSC-prelim-title15-chapter2-subchapter1&edition=prelim">Read the Fair Trade Commission Act</a></p><p><strong>About the Show</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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In the mid-2000s there was a King of Puffery. 
 
He soared into our lives as the SHAM-WOW guy. 
 
But his tour-de-force was the SLAP-CHOP. 
 
His name was Vince Offer, and he changed infomercials (and quite literally our lives) forever. 
 
In the first episode of REMARKABLE, we examine his use of puffery in the SLAP-CHOP commercials and how you can use it in your B2B marketing. 
 
Stop having a boring tuna, stop having a boring life! 
 
Let&apos;s slap those marketing troubles away and chop up some B2B marketing and content morsels for all to enjoy.</itunes:summary>
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In the mid-2000s there was a King of Puffery. 
 
He soared into our lives as the SHAM-WOW guy. 
 
But his tour-de-force was the SLAP-CHOP. 
 
His name was Vince Offer, and he changed infomercials (and quite literally our lives) forever. 
 
In the first episode of REMARKABLE, we examine his use of puffery in the SLAP-CHOP commercials and how you can use it in your B2B marketing. 
 
Stop having a boring tuna, stop having a boring life! 
 
Let&apos;s slap those marketing troubles away and chop up some B2B marketing and content morsels for all to enjoy.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>B2B marketers are always looking for inspiration and ideas. On Remarkable, the Caspian Studios team is bringing you B2B content ideas from Hollywood, B2C and beyond. In each episode we will explore elements of storytelling, design, and production, from studios like Pixar, Marvel, Lucas Films and many more. Then we will apply those lessons learned to how you can improve your B2B content. Welcome to Remarkable! </p><p><strong>Key Quotes</strong></p><p>“This is a great podcast that you should definitely listen to!” - Ian Faison, CEO, Caspian Studios</p><p>“You should tell all of your marketing friends to listen to every episode” - Fian Flason, Anonymous</p><p>“I like all the different speakers, they are so fun and funny. Especially Meredith.” - Meredith O’Neil</p><p>“Ian, why do we need quotes for this section?” - Meredith O’Neil</p><p>“Are you making up quotes and recording our conversation?” - Meredith O’Neil</p><p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p><p>Well, since the trailer is only one minute and 18 seconds long, the takeaway is <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/remarkable-episodes/slap-chop">LISTEN IN</a>.</p><p>Don’t swim on a full stomach.</p><p>Beer before liquor, never been sicker.</p><p>Podcasts are good for the soul.</p><p><strong>Episode Highlights</strong></p><p>Again, it's only one minute and 18 seconds so there aren’t a lot of highlights. We had to make up quotes already. Our first episode is Slap-Chop! Remember that? Choppy chopper thing? Crazy guy chopping stuff? Okay just <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/remarkable-episodes/slap-chop">head over and listen to it</a>.</p><p><strong>About the Show</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2022 09:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B2B marketers are always looking for inspiration and ideas. On Remarkable, the Caspian Studios team is bringing you B2B content ideas from Hollywood, B2C and beyond. In each episode we will explore elements of storytelling, design, and production, from studios like Pixar, Marvel, Lucas Films and many more. Then we will apply those lessons learned to how you can improve your B2B content. Welcome to Remarkable! </p><p><strong>Key Quotes</strong></p><p>“This is a great podcast that you should definitely listen to!” - Ian Faison, CEO, Caspian Studios</p><p>“You should tell all of your marketing friends to listen to every episode” - Fian Flason, Anonymous</p><p>“I like all the different speakers, they are so fun and funny. Especially Meredith.” - Meredith O’Neil</p><p>“Ian, why do we need quotes for this section?” - Meredith O’Neil</p><p>“Are you making up quotes and recording our conversation?” - Meredith O’Neil</p><p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p><p>Well, since the trailer is only one minute and 18 seconds long, the takeaway is <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/remarkable-episodes/slap-chop">LISTEN IN</a>.</p><p>Don’t swim on a full stomach.</p><p>Beer before liquor, never been sicker.</p><p>Podcasts are good for the soul.</p><p><strong>Episode Highlights</strong></p><p>Again, it's only one minute and 18 seconds so there aren’t a lot of highlights. We had to make up quotes already. Our first episode is Slap-Chop! Remember that? Choppy chopper thing? Crazy guy chopping stuff? Okay just <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/remarkable-episodes/slap-chop">head over and listen to it</a>.</p><p><strong>About the Show</strong></p><p>Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both non-fiction <i>and</i> fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at <a href="https://www.caspianstudios.com/">CaspianStudios.com</a>. </p><p>In today’s episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios), Dane Eckerle (Head of Development), Colin Stamps (Podcast Launch Manager), Anagha Das (B2B Content Marketing Manager), and Meredith O’Neil (Senior Producer). Remarkable was produced this week by Meredith O’Neil, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. </p><p>Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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