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<p><i>(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)</i></p>
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<p><i>(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)</i></p>
<p>Thoughts? Email us at interestingtimes@nytimes.com. Please subscribe to our YouTube Channel, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@InterestingTimesNYT" rel="noopener noreferrer">Interesting Times with Ross Douthat</a>.</p>
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