The Best People with Nicolle Wallace

Best of the Best: Yes, Robert De Niro is Talking to You

Robert De Niro, Nicolle Wallace — Mon, 6 Apr 2026 09:00:00 +0000

Last weekend the legendary actor spoke at a protest in New York City. “The concept of No Kings is a great rallying cry, and hugely successful, as millions of us have answered the call. I support this movement 150%” he said. “Afraid of Trump?! Please. No, they should be more afraid of us.” In the conversation he recorded with Nicolle in February he expounded on the principles in that brief speech, and so this week we’re re-running the episode as a Best of The Best People.

Robert De Niro commands every room he enters. His decades-long career and Academy Award winning performances have gifted the world some of its most beloved films, from instant classics like "The Godfather II" and "Raging Bull" to countless gems like "Goodfellas," and "Casino." But despite the rough and tumble characters he often portrays, he tells Nicolle, “I’m not a tough guy. I’m a concerned citizen.” He brings that inextricably human sensibility to this episode, having been a consistent and passionate voice in the fight against President Trump’s worst instincts. De Niro and Nicolle drill down on the optics of business leaders turning a blind eye to the administration’s behaviors, the need for mass mobilization to protect midterm election integrity, and the importance of kindness in an era defined by division. And the Hollywood titan has some sage advice for those who oppose Trump: “Everybody has to get out there every way possible... This is it. This is our country.”

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Alex Wagner: Trump’s MAGA Base is "Mad at Daddy"

Alex Wagner, Nicolle Wallace — Mon, 30 Mar 2026 09:00:00 +0000

Alex Wagner is journalist to her core, forever on the hunt for the next story “bubbling up on the ground.” From her 2020 reporting for Showtime’s “The Circus” on right-wing militias intent on reacting to a Joe Biden win, to her post-election MS NOW podcast “Trumpland” which found her standing outside a DC jail on a cold January night waiting for pardoned J6’ers to emerge, she believes in talking to people where they are to understand how they feel. Alex now helms Crooked Media’s “Runaway Country” podcast, and she joins Nicolle this week for a conversation about why some of MAGA's most ardent supporters are “mad at Daddy” and how sanitizing Trump’s crude commentary may have failed as a reporting method. And Alex doesn’t hold back on the White House’s disturbing video-gamification of the Iran War: “The idea that we celebrate and lust for death and bloodshed is some dark business. And this administration keeps telling us over and over again that that's what we want.”

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Julie K. Brown Continues to Break Open the Epstein Story

Julie K. Brown, Nicolle Wallace — Mon, 23 Mar 2026 09:00:00 +0000

When Miami Herald investigative reporter Julie K. Brown first started digging into the story behind Jeffrey Epstein’s sweetheart plea deal back in 2018, she did not envision the firestorm that would build around her reporting: breaking open decades of abuse of young girls and young women, and eventually leading to Epstein's arrest on charges of sex trafficking of minors. Brown initially tracked down close to 100 women who were allegedly victimized by Epstein and as they began to share their stories with each other and the world, they became a force that Congress could not ignore. The fierce advocacy of these and other survivors led to passage of the 2025 Epstein Files Transparency Act. Which brings us to our current moment: the Justice Department has now published nearly 3.5 million pages, so citizens can see for themselves the extensive web of Epstein's connections to the prominent and the powerful. Julie joins Nicolle in this episode to reflect on her incredible legacy of investigative reporting, what threads she continues to pull, and the importance of believing these women: “It's real, people. It's real that this happened."

A note to listeners: This episode contains discussions around sexual assault. Please listen with care.

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Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling Knows Leadership… And When It’s Lacking

Nicolle Wallace, Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling — Mon, 16 Mar 2026 09:00:00 +0000

“ We anticipate your unit taking about fifty percent casualties.” This is what Retired Army Lieutenant General Mark Hertling heard in an intelligence briefing at division headquarters before deploying to Iraq in 1991. This would be the first of three combat deployments in a 38-year career in the United States Army, retiring after leading over 40,000 men and women as Commanding General of the U.S. Army Europe. It was this deployment that led Lt. Gen. Hertling to begin keeping a war-time journal, which became the basis for his latest book. ”If I Don’t Return" is a collection of raw and revealing missives written for his sons in the event he didn’t make it home. Drawing from his personal experiences and military expertise, Lt. Gen. Hertling joins Nicolle to explain what drives the less than one percent of our citizens to become service members. He also lays out his vision of leadership and notes that while active-duty generals serve at the behest of the President that voters choose, the current leadership in the White House and at the Pentagon do not always seem to understand the mission.

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How Tig Notaro's "Laugh Hang" Got Her to the Oscars

Nicolle Wallace, Tig Notaro — Mon, 9 Mar 2026 09:00:00 +0000

Tig Notaro is spectacularly funny. She’s also a fiercely dedicated friend. The Emmy and Grammy nominated comedian now adds “Oscar Nominee" to her impressive list of accomplishments for her work producing the deeply personal documentary, “Come See Me in the Good Light.” The film explores the life and death of her dear friend, the late poet and activist Andrea Gibson, who passed after a hard-fought battle with ovarian cancer in July of 2025. Notaro joins Nicolle in this episode to honor Gibson and share stories of the venerated poet's profoundly impactful life and legacy, encapsulated in the film in Gibson's own words: “My story is one about happiness being easier to find once we realize we do not have forever to find it.” They also talk about the healing nature of comedy, Notaro’s experiences acting in "The Morning Show" and "Star Trek: Starfleet Academy," and her latest venture into podcasting hilarity, “Handsome.”

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A Mayor, a Military Pro and a Professor on Affluence, Grievance and Greed

Nicolle Wallace, Eddie Glaude, Mitch Landrieu, Tom Nichols — Mon, 2 Mar 2026 10:00:00 +0000

After Nicolle's fiery conversation with Princeton Professor Dr. Eddie Glaude, former NOLA Mayor Mitch Landrieu, and The Atlantic’s Tom Nichols on "Deadline: White House" a few weeks back, it was clear they needed to continue their thread beyond a single TV segment. So this week, she convened the trio to pick up where they left off: how to make sense of this moment in our history. “We're facing some serious headwinds, right? We're running deficits in courage,” alerts Glaude, while Nichols, looking at the rise of walled-off technocrats, laments, “Even the ancient Athenians built a Parthenon to put money back into the economy at some point.” And after a wide-ranging conversation about grift, grievance and the promise of America versus her reality, Landrieu declares: “Trump is a feral beast,” before noting that, in the wake of what the president is destroying, “People need to start thinking about, what are we going to build going forward?”

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Yes, Robert De Niro is Talking to You

Robert De Niro, Nicolle Wallace — Mon, 23 Feb 2026 10:00:00 +0000

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Scott Galloway Wants You to Resist and Unsubscribe

Scott Galloway, Nicolle Wallace — Mon, 16 Feb 2026 08:00:00 +0000

Like many Americans, Scott Galloway was feeling powerless against the Trump administration's worst policy impulses. And then it hit him: knowing Trump responds only to changes in the market, why not use our keyboards and our spending power to push back through economic action? Designed as a "coordinated economic strike targeting tech and AI companies enabling state power,” ‘Resist and Unsubscribe’ is a movement aimed at harnessing the power of economic boycott to create repercussions for companies enabling the president. In this episode, Galloway joins Nicolle to break down how consumer spending – the driving force behind the United States economy – is a “potent weapon” for the millions of Americans eager to stand up for our nation's values.

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Check Out a Preview for “Clock It”

symone sanders townsend, eugene daniels — Thu, 12 Feb 2026 10:00:00 +0000

“MS NOW Presents: Clock It” is an invitation to the liveliest and most informed groupchat in your feed. Symone Sanders Townsend and Eugene Daniels are long-time political powerhouses. And they understand more than most how culture influences politics, and the role politics plays in culture. On “Clock It,” they’re helping you put your finger on the pulse of the hottest political gossip and their off-air conversations too colorful for TV.

In the first episode of their new show, “Clock It,” they’re joined by actors Tony Goldwyn and Myles Frost for a conversation about making thought-provoking art when political tensions are at their highest. And they dig in on the Super Bowl halftime show, why cuts to The Washington Post matter for democracy, and the race to the Senate in Texas.

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Rosie Perez is Still Doing the Right Thing

Nicolle Wallace, Rosie Perez — Mon, 9 Feb 2026 08:00:00 +0000

Rosie Perez was a self-professed “college nerd” studying biochemistry when she landed her breakout role as Tina in Spike Lee’s iconic 1989 film “Do the Right Thing.” Since then, audiences have fallen in love time and time again with the Oscar-nominated actress’ magnetic presence and character driven performances. Off screen, Perez shows the same genuine courage and heart in everything she advocates for, from AIDS awareness to voting rights. In this episode, she catches up with her longtime friend Nicolle for an honest conversation about the bravery of Minnesotans, the intensity of everything Trump has wrought and the impact she’s felt from canvassing to get out the vote. And though she may seem fearless, she admits to Nicolle “everyone thinks I look so brave...I’m terrified.” When asked why she continues her advocacy, Perez says “there's so many people that stood up for me and fought for me. That's what gives me the courage.”

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MS NOW Presents: Clock It with Symone and Eugene

Symone Sanders Townsend, Eugene Daniels — Thu, 5 Feb 2026 08:00:00 +0000

Symone Sanders Townsend and Eugene Daniels were once at odds as White House staffer and White House reporter. Now they’re friends and colleagues—each co-hosting their own shows at MS NOW. But their off-air conversations are where the real action is. Their new show, “MS NOW Presents: Clock It” is an invitation to their groupchat, the liveliest—and most informative—in news. Whether it’s ICE getting dispatched to the Super Bowl because Bad Bunny’s doing the halftime show, or Nicolás Maduro’s Nike Tech fit, or Michael B. Jordan’s sole Oscar nomination despite playing three roles in Sinners, there is no collision between culture and politics that this show won’t document and decipher. Symone and Eugene see exactly what’s going on—and they want you to clock it, too.

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Eric Holder: Institutions Have Failed Us, the American People Have Not

Eric Holder, Nicolle Wallace — Mon, 2 Feb 2026 08:00:00 +0000

Eric Holder exemplifies a Justice Department guided by principle and integrity— rather than by the whims of a White House occupant. Holder’s unique perspective as the nation’s former chief law enforcement officer allows him to diagnose an untethered executive branch intent on weaponizing institutions, while also owning where Democrats fall short: “Democrats have been uncomfortable with the acquisition and use of power.” In this episode of “The Best People”, Holder joins Nicolle for an earnest conversation about ordinary citizens engaging in extraordinary acts of protest in Minneapolis and the colossal stakes of the upcoming midterm elections. And while he notes, "our institutions have failed us,” he underscores that “the American people have not.” Plus: a warning to those who bend to Trumps demands: “memories are long and people are going to remember where you stood” in this moment.

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Amb. Susan Rice on Trump’s “Grand Theft Larceny"

Nicolle Wallace, Susan Rice — Mon, 26 Jan 2026 08:00:00 +0000

Susan Rice’s exemplary career in government and international relations has earned her a distinctive reputation as a resolute advocate for American interests on the world stage. As the former Ambassador to the United Nations and President Obama’s National Security Advisor, she is keenly aware of our nation’s leadership role across the globe. So, her sober analysis of President Trump’s brazen and “widening authoritarian power grab" should be taken with the gravity she affords it. Ambassador Rice joins Nicolle to emphasize how far Trump has fallen from his campaign promises of isolationism and affordability, while underscoring that “most Americans did not sign up for reckless foreign adventures for an imperial United States.” And she lays plain that, whether bullying Greenland abroad or brutal ICE interactions here at home, Trump’s “gestapo-like tactics” are not who we are.

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Oliver Darcy on the Effects of a Steady Fox News Diet

Oliver Darcy, Nicolle Wallace — Mon, 19 Jan 2026 08:00:00 +0000

In a media market saturated with content, Oliver Darcy breaks the fourth wall—turning the lens back on the content makers shaping today’s news. The veteran media reporter and “Status” newsletter founder is known for delivering must-read scoops and industry analysis. In this episode, Darcy joins Nicolle to analyze the depths of corporate capitulation to Donald Trump, how MAGA media stars are commanding the attention economy through rampant conspiracy pedaling, and why America's information environment is increasingly unhealthy. He warns that “the antibodies that were fighting the sickness” are being depleted. But Darcy also sees glimmers of optimism: from citizen protests to independent journalists, Americans are waking up.

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Heather Cox Richardson: "This is Americans vs. Dictators"

Nicolle Wallace, Heather Cox Richardson — Mon, 12 Jan 2026 08:00:00 +0000

Against the backdrop of the shocking U.S. capture of President Nicolas Maduro in Venezuela, renowned historian and Substack superstar Heather Cox Richardson is back with Nicolle, bringing her unique capacity to explain our current state of play through a historically tinted lens. As Trump’s actions abroad rattle the post-World War II international order, Heather warns of a political era that adheres more to the strongman politics of autocratic leaders like Vladimir Putin than it ever has before. Together, Cox Richardson and Nicolle trace an evolving list of national concerns: a president in clear decline, a Congress unwilling to act, and a Republican Party abandoning its core principles in real time.

And if you haven't heard Nicolle’s first conversation with Heather, please give it a listen here: Heather Cox Richardson:“People are Starved for Facts”

Note: This episode was recorded on January 7, 2026.

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Best of The Best: Joan Baez is Calculating How Much She’s Willing to Risk

Joan Baez, Nicolle Wallace — Mon, 5 Jan 2026 08:00:00 +0000

Happy New Year! This week, we’re revisiting an episode we recorded back in September with the iconic folk singer, songwriter, and activist, Joan Baez. Please enjoy! We’ll be back with new episodes next week.

Legendary singer and activist Joan Baez still marches in protests; but she also performs in a circus, dances with drag queens and does whatever else she can to maintain a sense of joy and laughter. Baez has spent her career equally at home on the political frontlines as behind a guitar. But as the world has changed, so has how she calculates risk. She thinks if she were to be arrested now – as opposed to 58 years ago – it would be “scary in a way that I was not scared back then.” But, she tells Nicolle, “social change cannot happen until somebody's willing to take a risk."

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Best of The Best: Rosie O'Donnell Did Not Become an Artist to be Liked

Nicolle Wallace, Rosie O'Donnell — Mon, 29 Dec 2025 08:00:00 +0000

As we reflect on 2025 and prepare for the new year, we thought it would be a good time to share an episode we recorded back in September that blends themes of comedy, friendship, and community. Please enjoy this “Best of the Best” with Nicolle’s dear friend and former co-host, Rosie O’Donnell.

Rosie O’Donnell has never shied away from a microphone. And while her decades-long public feud with Donald Trump has at times been fodder for tabloids, she is quite clear that her decision to move to Ireland, her ancestral home, was all about her family and her own self-preservation. Rosie and Nicolle first met as co-hosts thrown together to debate on “The View”, but they developed a friendship that continues today. This episode shows the breadth of that connection, as Rosie reflects on the continual chaos Trump brings to the country each day, shares some memories about “The View” and Barbara Streisand, and issues a call to action for people feeling lost: find your community.

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Marc Elias Urges Dems to Replace Nostalgia with Forward Progress

Nicolle Wallace, Marc Elias — Mon, 22 Dec 2025 08:00:00 +0000

Marc Elias is a formidable elections attorney and a fierce defender of voting rights. As Republicans hone a strategy of subtracting voters from the rolls in the 2026 midterms, Elias relentlessly challenges their efforts—in the courts and in the public square. Against the backdrop of notching over 60 legal victories against Donald Trump’s attempts to overturn the 2020 election, Elias joins Nicolle to talk about the quiet legal war he says the Justice Department is waging to acquire data on voters. He also has some advice for Democrats: stop waxing nostalgic on norms of the past that Trump has destroyed. Instead, divine a new theory of government that builds on our past successes. And Marc wants to reframe how we describe law firms and businesses that have acquiesced to Trump's demands: “Stop using the word capitulation. Start using the word collaboration.”

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Leslie Jones Asks MAGA: Why Do You Want America to Suck?

Leslie Jones, Nicolle Wallace — Mon, 15 Dec 2025 08:00:00 +0000

It takes a rare kind of brilliance to be universally funny, and Leslie Jones is Exhibit A. With the release of her new comedy special "Life: Part Two”, the Emmy-award winning SNL alum joins Nicolle — who she affectionately calls “Nickkkaaay!” — for a conversation packed with candor, irreverence, and unadulterated hilarity. Whether she’s calling out the narcissism fueling our leaders or recounting how she noticed Donald Trump’s famously small hands on the set of SNL, Jones dives headfirst into comedy’s singular power to expose political absurdity. While she laments the current state of Trump’s America, she urges people to reject complacency and reclaim the moment. Buckle up for a sharp, no-filter episode with one of the country's most adored comedians.

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Rachel Maddow Has Some Advice for Those Who Capitulate

Nicolle Wallace, Rachel Maddow — Mon, 8 Dec 2025 08:00:00 +0000

With the backdrop of intensifying scrutiny over the Trump administration's boat strikes, Nicolle’s friend and colleague Rachel Maddow returns — this time with a chilling piece of American history in hand. Rachel’s latest podcast, “Rachel Maddow Presents: Burn Order”, examines one of the most astonishing chapters in American history: the U.S. government’s decision to forcibly target, detain, and uproot innocent Japanese American citizens during World War II. Maddow holds a spotlight on the people in power who put internment into action, enabling this dark stain on American history. In this episode, she and Nicolle zero in on the sobering parallels to our politics today, and Maddow urges citizens not to wait for someone else to show up, but rather, “ wherever you are, however you're feeling, if you know something's wrong, you should stand up any way you can.”

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Claire Danes is “Tough and Nervous"

Claire Danes, Nicolle Wallace — Mon, 1 Dec 2025 08:00:00 +0000

Claire Danes knew she was destined to act at five years old, and audiences have felt that certainty ever since – from her turn as Angela Chase in the cult favorite series “My So-Called Life” to the iconic Carrie Mathison in “Homeland,” her devotion to her craft has delivered some of television’s most compelling characters. Her latest work in Netflix’s “The Beast in Me” is no different, with Danes playing a grieving mother who finds purpose through a dangerous connection with her mysterious neighbor, played by Matthew Rhys. In this episode, Nicolle and Claire explore Claire's evolution as an actor, how she navigates life in the public eye, and the joy of raising children in New York City – the place she grew up calling home.

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Introducing "Rachel Maddow Presents: Burn Order"

Rachel Maddow — Mon, 24 Nov 2025 14:00:00 +0000

"Rachel Maddow Presents: Burn Order" is the story of one of the most shocking decisions in American history: the executive order to target and round up innocent citizens, Japanese Americans, at the outbreak of World War II. This six-episode narrative podcast will examine and shed new light on how that policy came to be, who was behind it, who attempted to stop it, and the heroism needed to end the policy for good.

Listen to the trailer here and search for “Burn Order” to follow the show.

The first two episodes drop December 1st.

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Best of the Best: Jess Michaels Survived Epstein. Now She’s Speaking Up

Jennifer Freeman, Jess Michaels, Nicolle Wallace — Mon, 24 Nov 2025 08:00:00 +0000

Since the government shutdown ended, there’s been a renewed focus on releasing the Epstein files. And after the House and Senate voted to compel the Justice Department to make the files public, President Trump signed the bill, beginning a 30-day countdown to their release. With this as a backdrop, we thought it would be a good time to re-up an episode of "The Best People" we released back in mid-September with Jess Michaels and her lawyer, Jennifer Freeman. This episode was originally recorded on September 9th.

At 22 years old, Jess Michaels was thriving. She was finding success as a dancer and model in New York City. Then, in 1991, she met Jeffrey Epstein. Jess Michaels was sexually assaulted by Epstein and it destroyed her stability, her career and her health. After doing the work to begin healing from this trauma, she has found renewed purpose as an advocate alongside other survivors of Epstein's abuse. The day after excerpts from Epstein’s 50th birthday book were made public, Jess joined Nicolle to call out the decades of institutional cowardice, and with a warning for elected leaders: Jess and her fellow survivors are not going away, and they are not going to stop until they get accountability, truth and justice.

A note to listeners: this episode contains discussions around sexual assault. Please listen with care.

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Heather Cox Richardson: "People are Starved for Facts"

Heather Cox Richardson, Nicolle Wallace — Mon, 17 Nov 2025 08:00:00 +0000

As an American historian and history professor at Boston College, Heather Cox Richardson muses, “ I don't predict the future, I predict the past.” But there is a reason that her renowned “Letters From an American” Substack has the most subscribers of anyone on the platform: Cox Richardson’s ability to apply the lessons from our nation’s history to the politics of our present. And she sees a significant realignment happening in our democracy right now. In this episode, Heather zeroes in on the growing conflict between the citizenry and an executive branch that shows a bent toward aristocracy over democracy. She also points to progress, as Americans are waking up to the power they hold and finding their agency to say, in her words, “Hell no.”

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Scott Galloway Wants to Make America America Again

Scott Galloway, Nicolle Wallace — Mon, 10 Nov 2025 08:00:00 +0000

Scott Galloway — affectionately known as “Prof G” to his legion of podcast followers — is deeply concerned about young men in America. In his new book “Notes on Being a Man,” he reflects on how a lack of economic viability and social connection has created powerful headwinds that make the experience of young men today far different from his own. Scott joins Nicolle to share his analysis of several careening crises at play, from the intentionally isolating effects of social media to a stark imbalance in generational income, while the crushing costs of everyday life pile up. With his entrepreneurial spirit and data-driven approach, Galloway isn’t just diagnosing problems — he’s mapping a way forward. Blending personal life experiences with research, he delivers a conversation that’s candid, introspective, and unmistakably “Prof G.”

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“Pod Save America” Co-Hosts: Re-Humanization Needs to be a Goal Now

Jon Favreau, Nicolle Wallace, Tommy Vietor — Mon, 3 Nov 2025 08:00:00 +0000

“Pod Save America” began as a way to “narrow the distance” between the conversations former Obama White House staffers were having in private and the ones echoing throughout the public sphere. And since launching in 2017, it’s become a force in America’s competitive media culture. As two of the three co-founders behind Crooked Media, Jon Favreau and Tommy Vietor are ushering in a new era of political communication, championing a craft many Democratic lawmakers might learn from – one that threads entertainment and information, and turns audience engagement into activism. They join Nicolle to talk about the stakes of the November 2025 election, what it would take for new Dem leaders to emerge, and what lessons they carry from their former boss, President Obama.

For more from the “Pod Save” world, be sure to revisit Nicolle’s conversation with Tommy and Jon’s co-host, Jon Lovett, over the summer.

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JB Pritzker on ICE Raids in Chicago: “People are Traumatized”

Nicolle Wallace, JB Pritzker — Mon, 27 Oct 2025 07:00:00 +0000

Governor JB Pritzker has mastered the art of standing up to Donald Trump. Whether he’s mocking Trump’s threat to jail him (“Come and get me, Mr. President!) or calling on the citizens of Illinois to grab their phones and document how ICE is targeting black and brown people, Pritzker is showing us how it’s done. With the threat of deployment of federal troops to the streets of Chicago, Pritzker is determined to lessen the fear and suffering of his constituents (“People are traumatized”) and hold the Trump administration to account. Now, the Governor is warning that Trump may use the military to interfere in the 2026 election and turning our attention to a lesson from the Holocaust, so eloquently captured in Pastor Martin Niemöller’s haunting poem “First They Came”. “People need to speak up, speak out, grab a megaphone and get to the ballot box.”

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Charlamagne Tha God: “We The People” Hasn’t Failed Us Yet

Nicolle Wallace, Charlamagne Tha God — Mon, 20 Oct 2025 07:00:00 +0000

Charlamagne Tha God’s more than 7 million monthly listeners hang on his every word for a reason: Charlamagne is plugged into real Americans’ lives. Listening to Charlamagne’s nationally syndicated radio show “The Breakfast Club” has been likened to “sitting on America’s front porch” – a sensibility Charlamagne honed growing up in rural South Carolina. “It gave me a front row seat on working class people”. Now he’s putting politicians on both sides of the aisle on blast – from Trump (“he’s wiping his a** with the Constitution”) to Biden (“Joe Biden should have stepped down 2 years ago”) and sounding the alarm about the rule of law, our fragile Constitution and why Democrats should never stop asking about the Epstein files. Plus what Charlamagne says gives him hope: “the one branch of government that hasn’t failed us thus far: We the people.”

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Preview of “The Blueprint” Season 2

Jen Psaki, Rep. Greg Casar — Wed, 15 Oct 2025 21:00:00 +0000

Jen Psaki is on a mission to show us how the Democratic party can use this political moment to fight and win again. On Season 2 of her podcast, “The Blueprint,” she interviews the people reshaping the party, starting with Texas Congressman Greg Casar, Chair of the Progressive Caucus.

The first two episodes of “The Blueprint with Jen Psaki” are available now, and will continue to drop every Wednesday, from now through mid-November.

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Martin Sheen is the Most Presidential Man in the Room

Martin Sheen, Nicolle Wallace, Lawrence O'Donnell — Mon, 13 Oct 2025 07:00:00 +0000

Martin Sheen has been playing iconic leading men for nearly 70 years from "Badlands" to "Apocalypse Now" and of course as President Jed Bartlet in "The West Wing." But the Emmy and Golden Globe winner says that while acting is his profession, activism keeps him alive. The son of immigrants, social justice is at the center of his life; Sheen's decades of non-violent civil disobedience has earned him the dubious distinction of being the most arrested celebrity in Hollywood. At MSNBC's annual live event MSNBCLIVE '25, Nicolle talks to Sheen about his faith in this country and his call to action for each of us to "lift up this country" and make politics joyful again. Plus: a surprise appearance from an old friend from Sheen’s days in the “West Wing.”

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Anthony Scaramucci Thinks Trump Has "Lost a Step"

Anthony Scaramucci, Nicolle Wallace — Mon, 6 Oct 2025 07:00:00 +0000

Anthony Scaramucci, known as “The Mooch” to friends and foes alike, holds a unique place in American politics. A baseball fanatic and Goldman Sachs alum, he was once a Donald Trump supporter, campaign advisor, and held an 11-day stint as Trump’s White House Communications Director in 2017. After Trump called him a “deep-stater” and fired him, Scaramucci did a lot of soul searching. And in 2019, he came to own what he openly calls his “mistake” of supporting the president, urging voters to learn from his lapse in judgement. In this episode, he and Nicolle muse about Republicans’ ability to remain in lock step, while the Democrats are in the midst of an inner-party civil war. But more importantly, Scaramucci shares his optimism for what's next in our democratic experiment.

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Rosie O'Donnell Did Not Become an Artist to be Liked

Rosie O'Donnell, Nicolle Wallace — Mon, 29 Sep 2025 07:00:00 +0000

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Joan Baez is Calculating How Much She’s Willing to Risk

Joan Baez, Nicolle Wallace — Mon, 22 Sep 2025 07:00:00 +0000

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Jess Michaels Survived Epstein. Now She’s Speaking Up

Jess Michaels, Jennifer Freeman, Nicolle Wallace — Mon, 15 Sep 2025 07:00:00 +0000

At 22 years old, Jess Michaels was thriving. She was finding success as a dancer and model in New York City. Then, in 1991, she met Jeffrey Epstein. Jess Michaels was sexually assaulted by Epstein and it destroyed her stability, her career and her health. After doing the work to begin healing from this trauma, she has found renewed purpose as an advocate alongside other survivors of Epstein's abuse. The day after excerpts from Epstein’s 50th birthday book were made public, Jess and her lawyer, Jennifer Freeman, joined Nicolle to call out the decades of institutional cowardice, and with a warning for elected leaders: Jess and her fellow survivors are not going away, and they are not going to stop until they get accountability, truth and justice.

A note to listeners: This episode contains discussions around sexual assault. Please listen with care.

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Stacey Abrams’ Steps to Freedom and Power

Stacey Abrams, Nicolle Wallace — Mon, 8 Sep 2025 07:00:00 +0000

She’s a voting rights activist, a prominent voice in the Democratic party and a three-time New York Times best-selling novelist; but more than anything else, Stacey Abrams is a bonafide badass. As Democratic leaders struggle to unify around a message to counter Trump’s relentless attacks on democracy, Abrams envisions a future where having a moral backbone is an asset, not a weakness. She calls out the political cowardice that’s taken hold of Trump’s MAGA Republicans and calls on Democrats to find their voice and their spine. Never forget, says Abrams, that being in the minority doesn’t make you powerless.

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Ken Burns Believes in our American Experiment

Nicolle Wallace, Ken Burns — Mon, 1 Sep 2025 07:00:00 +0000

Ken Burns is America’s documentarian: From the Civil War to Vietnam, baseball to the Brooklyn Bridge, his films are gospel for generations of Americans curious about the world and our history. This November, in a new six part, 12-hour documentary series Burns turns his attention to the American Revolution – and the counterintuitive revelation that democracy was *not* on the table when the fighting first broke out. Burns says what this film showed him is that the tension we feel today in 2025 arcs back to and mirrors the tension that gave birth to our nation. And Burns believes the American story boils down to a simple choice – a question posed in the timeless Frank Capra classic “It’s a Wonderful Life”: Do you want to live in Pottersville or Bedford Falls? (HINT: Ken Burns only wants to live in Bedford Falls)

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Phil Rosenthal is Hungry… And Subversive

Phil Rosenthal, Nicolle Wallace — Mon, 25 Aug 2025 07:00:00 +0000

Life can take some pretty unexpected turns. Just ask Phil Rosenthal. The man who brought us “Everybody Loves Raymond” is now a global star in his own right thanks to “Somebody Feed Phil” – Netflix’s longest running unscripted original series, a show Phil says boils down to one simple sentence: “I’m just like Anthony Bourdain if Bourdain was afraid of everything”. The result is a profound, at times goofy, and utterly relatable exploration of humanity through food. Phil tells Nicolle about his “hero’s journey” as a kid from Queens who didn’t taste garlic until he was 17 to a world traveler who’s trying to get everybody out of their comfort zones one dish at a time. And Phil shares what he’s learned along the way: that most people are nice, it’s time to replace the manosphere with the “lady-sphere”, and diners might just save the world.

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Jon Lovett: “This is not Policy Making. This is Vandalism”

Jon Lovett, Nicolle Wallace — Mon, 18 Aug 2025 07:00:00 +0000

Pod Save America and Crooked Media founding member Jon Lovett isn’t just a podcasting legend or Barack Obama’s speechwriting secret weapon. He's a quick study of our political discourse and a cultural vanguard. Now he’s spilling the tea on everything from the “vandalism” Trump is unleashing on American institutions, the Hollywood heavy-hitter who had a hand in THAT Trump joke at the White House Correspondents' Dinner and what it was really like working with Hillary Clinton. Lovett also offers some hard truths Democrats need to face if they hold any hope of getting back into power. Plus: his hot take on the Epstein scandal and whether it could deliver a knock-out blow to Trump’s support with the MAGA faithful.

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Melissa Murray is the JLo of Law

Nicolle Wallace, Melissa Murray — Mon, 11 Aug 2025 07:00:00 +0000

When systems are failing, what do you triage first? That's a question that keeps constitutional law superstar Melissa Murray awake at night. As a law professor at New York University, a former clerk for Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor and co-host of the “Strict Scrutiny” podcast, Melissa is well-versed in examining our legal system at the intersection of the social and political, and she knows that what is being broken will take a long time to rebuild. In this episode, Melissa joins Nicolle to talk about why Justice Sotomayor's dissents from the bench send a message about protest amid a conservative supermajority on the High Court, the power of Black women voters, and how to put Humpty Dumpty back together again.

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Jacob Soboroff: “The American People Are Being Lied To”

Jacob Soboroff, Nicolle Wallace — Mon, 4 Aug 2025 07:00:00 +0000

From the war in Ukraine to the devastating wildfires in Los Angeles, Jacob Soboroff is no stranger to covering tragedy. His first-hand account of family separations along the Southern border during Trump’s first term became a bestselling book and later the critically acclaimed documentary “Separated” by Academy Award winning director Errol Morris. Now, Soboroff is back chronicling the human toll and devastating impact of Trump’s new immigration crackdown, including an exclusive interview for “The Best People”: with Narciso Barranco, the gardener and father of three whose violent detention by masked ICE agents in California this June went viral.

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Tim Miller is Ready to Fight Fire with Fire

Tim Miller, Nicolle Wallace — Mon, 28 Jul 2025 07:00:00 +0000

There is no pre-political Tim Miller. From a fifth-grade bet on Bill Clinton, to becoming a Republican strategist for Jeb Bush, to finally saying “Goodbye to All That” and leaving the party in 2020, and now hosting the Bulwark podcast as a ‘Never Trumper,’ Miller has been immersed in politics his whole life. In this episode, Tim joins Nicolle to discuss finding (and losing) community within the Republican party, the manosphere, and what he’s learned about breaking down the Trump coalition as a long-term anti-Trump advocate.

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Jeff Daniels on the Enemy Within

Nicolle Wallace, Jeff Daniels — Mon, 21 Jul 2025 07:00:00 +0000

Very few actors have the range to pull off “Dumb and Dumber’s” slack jawed Harry Dunne, while mastering the arc of moral giants like Atticus Finch on stage or Ronald Reagan in the upcoming film “Reykjavík.” Jeff Daniels is that actor. He’s played iconic character driven roles like “The Newsroom’s” Will McAvoy and delivered countless monologues that embrace the better angels of our nature. And now, he’s playing guitar and writing songs that hold up a mirror to the human experience. He joins Nicolle in this episode to talk about the trajectory of his career, choosing a life in Michigan over Hollywood, and the lack of a national moral compass in the Trump era. Plus: a special acoustic guitar performance.

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BONUS: The Youth Baseball Coach Who Fended Off ICE

Nicolle Wallace — Tue, 15 Jul 2025 20:06:17 +0000

BONUS: In his two decades of coaching youth baseball, Youman Wilder never expected ICE agents to show up at his practice. But recently, that's exactly what happened. On New York's Upper West Side, Coach Wilder claims to have witnessed armed ICE agents questioning his players—and that’s when he knew he had to step in. On “Deadline White House” Nicolle interviewed Wilder on the experience and what is asked of all of us in this moment. Listen to the conversation here.

Editors’ Note: since the interview aired on MSNBC on July 14th, an ICE spokesperson has refuted this account, saying “ICE has not conducted any recent enforcement activity in the vicinity of Riverside Park.”

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Jimmy Jam on Prince, Janet, and a Nation Finding Its Rhythm

Nicolle Wallace, Jimmy Jam — Mon, 14 Jul 2025 07:00:00 +0000

Five-time Grammy Award winner, Rock & Roll Hall of Famer, and more Billboard No. 1 hits than any other production team in history – these are just a handful of the accolades amassed by Jimmy Jam. The mastermind behind a seemingly endless list of iconic songs like “Control” and “Rhythm Nation” and the legendary producer has long been a venerated fixture of the music industry, alongside his partner Terry Lewis. From serving as the Chairman of the Grammys, to songwriting for Janet Jackson, to growing up alongside Prince, his infectious passion for music and belief in its unifying properties seeps into everything he does. In this episode, he joins Nicolle to share memories and lessons from his storied career.

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Sarah Jessica Parker: “I Always Just Believed in Us”

Nicolle Wallace, Sarah Jessica Parker — Mon, 7 Jul 2025 07:00:00 +0000

Sarah Jessica Parker is the ultimate New Yorker. Andy Cohen says walking around with her is like “walking around with the Empire State Building.” SJP, as Parker is affectionately known to her fans, is best known for playing the iconic Carrie Bradshaw on HBO’s “Sex and The City” and its revival “And Just Like That,” currently in its third season. But more than men or fashion, the show is about friendship, community, and what it means to show up for one another. And in this interview with “The Best People,” she tells Nicolle Wallace that this spirit of care is one we could use a little more of in today’s political climate.

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Glennon Doyle & Abby Wambach: Brokenhearted but Showing Up Anyway

Nicolle Wallace, Abby Wambach, Glennon Doyle — Mon, 30 Jun 2025 07:00:00 +0000

The names Glennon Doyle and Abby Wambach speak for themselves. Glennon, a bestselling author, activist, and podcaster. Abby, an American soccer legend and World Cup champion. Together, the married couple is a force for good. In this episode, they join Nicolle to talk about how putting our bodies into uncomfortable places is the antidote to the dehumanization of immigrants, and why fighting for democracy needs to be a team sport.

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Deconstructing the Manosphere with the MeidasTouch Brothers

Ben Meiselas, Jordy Meiselas, Brett Meiselas, Nicolle Wallace — Mon, 23 Jun 2025 07:00:00 +0000

The real-life brothers behind the MeidasTouch digital media empire say building a resistance during Trump 2.0 is not that complicated: let your moral compass guide your actions. Anything else is just “weird”. (Paging Donald Trump). Ben, Jordy and Brett Meiselas join Nicolle in this episode to share their outlook on how to keep our democracy thriving, build community, shut down bullies and why their digital first approach is giving Fox News a run for its money.

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Doc Rivers Refuses to Shut Up and Dribble

Doc Rivers, Nicolle Wallace — Mon, 16 Jun 2025 07:00:00 +0000

Something about Nicolle: if she wasn’t a full-time anchor and part-time podcaster, her dream job would be to work anywhere near the NBA. So as the best teams in the league are battling it out in the NBA Finals, she welcomes Doc Rivers, NBA Champion head coach of the Milwaukee Bucks, to talk Trump, politics, and professional basketball. Doc does not shy away from the dynamics of why Trump won, where Democrats need to go from here and how basketball can teach us everything we need to know about surviving this moment and being human.

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Kara Swisher on Musk & the “Megalomaniacs” in Charge

Nicolle Wallace, Kara Swisher — Mon, 9 Jun 2025 07:00:00 +0000

Kara Swisher is a boss. As a journalist, entrepreneur, and longtime podcast host, she understands the intersection between tech and media, wealth and power like no one else. Kara joins Nicolle in this episode to talk about the art and intimacy of podcasting, the carnival barker Trump has always been and why she takes no guff from tech titans like Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos.

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Rachel Maddow: Born to Dilly Dally, Forced to Fight Fascism

Rachel Maddow, Nicolle Wallace — Mon, 2 Jun 2025 12:54:07 +0000

On the second episode of “The Best People with Nicolle Wallace,” Nicolle’s “phone-a-friend" Rachel Maddow reflects on the weird reality of this moment: after tumbling over the edge of the cliff of Trumpism, how do Americans navigate the canyon below? They muse about “shirtless” Vladimir Putin’s embarrassing relationship with President Trump, why Americans aren’t buying that immigrants are the enemy, and why Rachel finds hope in good old-fashioned protest.

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Jason Bateman Can’t Look Away

Nicolle Wallace, Jason Bateman — Mon, 2 Jun 2025 07:00:00 +0000

Welcome to “The Best People with Nicolle Wallace.” Each week, Nicolle sits down with someone she admires for conversations that are illuminating, inspiring, and sometimes surprising. This first episode begins with Jason Bateman copping to how much he’d love to be behind the steady camon Nicolle’s “Deadline: White House” set. From there they discuss his endearingly barbed relationship with his “Smartless” co-hosts Will Arnett and Sean Hayes, reflect on how to navigate the incredible plot twists of this wild Trump era, and Jason walks Nicolle through how to capture good sound of a body splat on the pavement.

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Introducing “The Best People with Nicolle Wallace”

MS NOW — Wed, 28 May 2025 17:48:15 +0000

On her new podcast, “The Best People,” Nicolle Wallace sits down with the smartest, funniest, wisest people she knows. These are the people who are the best at what they do and use their success to help others.

Hear from some of the biggest names in media, sports, and entertainment; people such as Jason Bateman, Rachel Maddow, Sarah Jessica Parker, Doc Rivers, and Kara Swisher.

New episodes drop on Mondays, beginning June 2nd. And you can sign up for MSNBC Premium on Apple Podcasts to get early access, ad-free listening, and bonus content.

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