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<p>Holly's in Hawaii.... but it's rained nonstop, the power's out and we've somehow been to the movies three times already. We talk Jill's London trip without Luca and what it actually looks like to step back into your "old life." </p>
<p>There's a little bit of everything - plus Survivor chaos, Oscars discourse and why Holly's algorithm is currently all cancer, all the time.</p>
<p>No plan. Just a proper catch-up. </p>
<p><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-weekend-essay/my-season-of-ativan" rel="noopener noreferrer">My Season of Ativan</a> by Amanda Peet </p>
<p><a href="https://ew.com/chadwick-boseman-widow-shares-details-of-his-cancer-journey-and-death-a-betrayal-of-faith-11930627" rel="noopener noreferrer">A Betrayal of Faith</a> with Simone Ledward Boseman for Entertainment Weekly </p>
<p>Connect with <a href="https://www.instagram.com/wearegoingthruit/" rel="noopener noreferrer">US on insta </a></p>
<p>We'd love to hear from you here! <a rel="noopener noreferrer">Email us </a>with any stories of loved ones you miss and want to share. And if there's anything else or anyone else you want to hear from, please let us know! </p>
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<p>There's a little bit of everything - plus Survivor chaos, Oscars discourse and why Holly's algorithm is currently all cancer, all the time.</p>
<p>No plan. Just a proper catch-up. </p>
<p><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-weekend-essay/my-season-of-ativan" rel="noopener noreferrer">My Season of Ativan</a> by Amanda Peet </p>
<p><a href="https://ew.com/chadwick-boseman-widow-shares-details-of-his-cancer-journey-and-death-a-betrayal-of-faith-11930627" rel="noopener noreferrer">A Betrayal of Faith</a> with Simone Ledward Boseman for Entertainment Weekly </p>
<p>Connect with <a href="https://www.instagram.com/wearegoingthruit/" rel="noopener noreferrer">US on insta </a></p>
<p>We'd love to hear from you here! <a rel="noopener noreferrer">Email us </a>with any stories of loved ones you miss and want to share. And if there's anything else or anyone else you want to hear from, please let us know! </p>
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<p>Connect with <a href="https://www.instagram.com/brettgursky/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Brett on Insta </a></p>
<p>Brett's Podcast: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bleav-presents-on-the-list-with-brett-gursky/id1442147220" rel="noopener noreferrer"><i>On the List </i></a></p>
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<p>Connect with <a href="https://www.instagram.com/brettgursky/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Brett on Insta </a></p>
<p>Brett's Podcast: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bleav-presents-on-the-list-with-brett-gursky/id1442147220" rel="noopener noreferrer"><i>On the List </i></a></p>
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<p>In August 2025, Mickey’s older brother Jon died from brain cancer. We talk about sibling loss (aka the worst club), the sacred inside jokes, the random movie lines that become part of your daily language, and how grief rewires you on a cellular level.</p>
<p>We also get into Mickey’s Men’s Health piece about cancer screenings — the big question of how much do you want to know, what testing can (and can’t) do, and why “control is an illusion” is both depressing and… oddly clarifying.</p>
<p>Mickey Rapkin for Men's Health: <a href="https://apple.news/Al27vQ64oQnKl747lhYpbCw" rel="noopener noreferrer">Am I Seizing Control of My Health or Driving Myself Crazy? </a></p>
<p>Connect with <a href="https://www.instagram.com/mickeyrapkin/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer">Mickey on Insta</a></p>
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<p>In August 2025, Mickey’s older brother Jon died from brain cancer. We talk about sibling loss (aka the worst club), the sacred inside jokes, the random movie lines that become part of your daily language, and how grief rewires you on a cellular level.</p>
<p>We also get into Mickey’s Men’s Health piece about cancer screenings — the big question of how much do you want to know, what testing can (and can’t) do, and why “control is an illusion” is both depressing and… oddly clarifying.</p>
<p>Mickey Rapkin for Men's Health: <a href="https://apple.news/Al27vQ64oQnKl747lhYpbCw" rel="noopener noreferrer">Am I Seizing Control of My Health or Driving Myself Crazy? </a></p>
<p>Connect with <a href="https://www.instagram.com/mickeyrapkin/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer">Mickey on Insta</a></p>
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In August 2025, Mickey’s older brother Jon died from brain cancer.

We talk about sibling loss (aka the worst club), the sacred inside jokes, the random movie lines that become part of your daily language, and how grief rewires you on a cellular level.


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In August 2025, Mickey’s older brother Jon died from brain cancer.

We talk about sibling loss (aka the worst club), the sacred inside jokes, the random movie lines that become part of your daily language, and how grief rewires you on a cellular level.


We also get into Mickey’s Men’s Health piece about cancer screenings — the big question of how much do you want to know, what testing can (and can’t) do, and why “control is an illusion” is both depressing and… oddly clarifying.

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      <description><![CDATA[<p>We recorded this on January 9th, when things in our world already felt heavy. But by the time this episode airs (January 29th), it somehow feels even heavier… so we’re really grateful for conversations like this one.</p><p>We’re joined by Sophie Ragir, a coach and creative who’s lived through major loss and came out the other side with a clarity we honestly found inspiring. We talk about grief (the messy, non-Hallmark version), the beauty and sometimes even the humor in the transition and how loss can sometimes become the thing that pushes you toward the life you actually want.</p><p>And yes.....we talk Heated Rivalry. So if you didn’t fully get your Ilya/Shane fix at the top of the month, consider this your bonus round. </p><p>Meet <a href="https://www.sophieragir.com/">Sophie Ragir </a></p><p><a href="https://sophieragir.substack.com/">Permission Slip</a> and other Sophie musings. <a href="https://sophieragir.substack.com/p/one-month-at-a-time">*<i>This one</i></a><i> really hit. </i></p><p>Connect with <a href="https://www.instagram.com/sophragir/?hl=en">Sophie on insta </a></p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this week's episode of Going Thru It, we sit down with our first mother/daughter duo. Rev. Naomi Tutu and her daughter, author and activist Mungi Ngomane. Together, they are a mother and daughter carrying not just their own stories, but the legacy of one of the most influential leaders of our time, Archbishop Desmond Tutu. We talk about what it means to grieve someone who didn’t just belong to you, the South African traditions that shaped how they honor loss, and the wisdom that moves between generations when a family is navigating both public and private grief. This conversation is part legacy, part love letter, and part reminder that across cultures, continents, and generations, grief connects us in the most human way possible. And a very happy belated birthday to Rev. Naomi! Of course you were born on the special day of 8/8....the Lion's Portal! </p><p><a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/everyday-ubuntu-mungi-ngomane/1130789999">Everyday Ubuntu by Mungi Ngomane</a> </p><p><a href="https://www.audible.com/pd/Everyday-Ubuntu-Audiobook/1473575818?srsltid=AfmBOoq5heW48bOVZS_7mwDOLERCtAo_Lfip94m13w4kqAH-cOtdaj4O">Everyday Ubuntu on Audible</a></p><p>More about <a href="https://www.naomitutu.com/">Rev. Nontombi Naomi Tutu</a></p><p>More about<a href="https://www.mungingomane.com/home"> Mungi Ngomane</a></p><p><a href="https://tutufoundationuk.org/">The Tutu Foundation </a></p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p><strong>BONUS DROP!</strong> Father’s Day may be over, but we’re not done celebrating our dad — and what better way to honor him than by reading his legendary Yelp reviews out loud? Jack S. has written over 200 passionate, misspelled, and wildly entertaining reviews of just about every place he visits. Whether he’s coining phrases like OTFC (Off The Freakin’ Charts) or signing off with “another one bites the dust,” his commentary is pure gold. It’s pure entertainment, and it’s a little glimpse into the man who raised us — one review at a time.</p><p><a href="https://www.yelp.com/user_details_reviews_self?userid=OhZ3B90OOXGZ9e0iChi0DA">Jack S on YELP </a></p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>We’re kicking off our Sibling Series with a powerful and heartfelt conversation with sisters Caroline and Natalie DeJean. You might remember Caroline from a past episode (celebrity stylist, cool girl, song-of-summer expert), and today she’s joined by her younger sister Natalie as they open up about the loss of their mom, Miss Liz, seven years ago.</p><p> </p><p>This episode dives into all the complexities surrounding grief. How siblings can experience the same loss in totally different ways, and how layered family dynamics, including divorce and emotional distance, can shape the grieving process. Caroline and Natalie reflect on where their relationship stood with their mom at the time of her passing, and how they’ve each made peace with that in their own way.</p><p> </p><p>We also get into some classic sibling rivalry, the evolving bond between sisters, and — of course — our annual Song of Summer debate. It’s messy, moving, and filled with moments that’ll make you laugh, nod along, and maybe even call your sibling afterward.</p><p>Connect with <a href="https://www.instagram.com/carolinedejean/?hl=en">Caroline on Insta </a></p><p>Connect with<a href="https://www.instagram.com/natdejean/?hl=en"> Natalie on Insta</a></p><p>Connect with <a href="https://www.instagram.com/shaaak/?hl=en">Holly on Insta</a></p><p>Connect with <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jillshakoor/?hl=en">Jill on Insta</a></p><p><a href="https://newsroom.spotify.com/2025-05-20/songs-of-summer-2025-spotifys-global-editors-predicts-the-anthems-that-will-soundtrack-the-season/">Song of Summer</a> (according to Spotify) </p>
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We also get into some classic sibling rivalry, the evolving bond between sisters, and — of course — our annual Song of Summer debate. It’s messy, moving, and filled with moments that’ll make you laugh, nod along, and maybe even call your sibling afterward.
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This episode dives into all the complexities surrounding grief. How siblings can experience the same loss in totally different ways, and how layered family dynamics, including divorce and emotional distance, can shape the grieving process. Caroline and Natalie reflect on where their relationship stood with their mom at the time of her passing, and how they’ve each made peace with that in their own way.

We also get into some classic sibling rivalry, the evolving bond between sisters, and — of course — our annual Song of Summer debate. It’s messy, moving, and filled with moments that’ll make you laugh, nod along, and maybe even call your sibling afterward.
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>One of us may be growing a baby but both of us are still figuring out how to grow around grief. In this episode, we catch up on Jill's third trimester—including her very on-brand babymoon in Hawaii—and talk about what it’s like preparing for new life while still carrying the absence of our brother Adam, something Holly didn’t have to navigate during her own pregnancy.</p><p>We also touch on the Knicks’ brief but incredibly long overdue playoff run (recorded in the blissful window before they lost), how siblings shape your whole identity, and why joy and grief seem to be on a shared custody schedule. Come for the baby updates, stay for the real talk.</p><p>Connect with <a href="https://www.instagram.com/wearegoingthruit/">US on Instagram </a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l82XiCJT-fs">Peter Bretter trying to Forget Sarah Marshall </a></p><p>In case you missed it, <a href="https://www.paramountplus.com/shows/survivor/episodes/37/">Mike White on Survivor: Season 37</a></p><p> </p>
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We also touch on the Knicks’ brief but incredibly long overdue playoff run (recorded in the blissful window before they lost), how siblings shape your whole identity, and why joy and grief seem to be on a shared custody schedule. Come for the baby updates, stay for the real talk.


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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Drop your buffs—it’s time for an episode decades in the making. This week, we’re joined by Bianca Maria Asumpte Immaculate Roses (yes, that’s her full legal name, and no, it did not fit on her high school diploma). She’s Jill’s best friend of nearly 30 years, a major PR pro, and now… a freshly torched contestant from Season 48 of Survivor. In this week's episode, we talk all things Fiji, sleep deprivation, and what it's like to have to leave the island while the game is still being played. Whether you're a fan of the premiere reality series or not, this conversation has it all. Beyond the game, this episode is a celebration of chosen family, shared Survivor obsessions, and the Roses-Shakoor bond—one that Adam cherished deeply. The tribe may have spoken… but now it’s Bianca’s turn.</p><p>Connect with <a href="https://www.instagram.com/biancamroses/?hl=en">Bianca on Insta </a></p><p>Catch up on <a href="https://www.cbs.com/shows/survivor/">CBS' Survivor </a></p><p>Connect with <a href="https://www.instagram.com/shaaak/?hl=en">Holly in Insta</a></p><p>Connect with <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jillshakoor/">Jill on Insta</a> </p>
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Sounds a little bleak? Maybe… but as always, we find reasons to be grateful—like our mom, who got to really flex her &apos;mom&apos; muscles this month. (Thanks, Mom!) Plus, we’ve got some breaking-but-not-really-breaking news: Friend of the family and the pod, Bianca Roses, is competing on Survivor 48! We can’t wait to watch her outwit, outplay, and outlast.

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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Happy Thanksgiving! Thanksgiving can be tough for families for a multitude of reasons. But Thanksgiving off the heels of an election can be an entirely different story. And if you come from a politically divided family, like we do, it's not always that easy to navigate. No one understands unconditional family love during divided times better than the Laub family. We sat down with famed artist and creative storyteller, Gillian Laub to discuss what it's like to be part of a family whose political values may not necessarily align. In 2021, Gillian published her third monograph FAMILY MATTERS which, through photos taken over a 20 year period of time, illustrate the dichotomy between the political divide her family experienced during the 2016 election but also the everlasting love and compassion that trumps all. We wish we had this book back then but being that we're all back in this same-ish place, we're glad we have it now. </p><p>Learn More about <a href="https://www.gillianlaub.com/">Gillian Laub </a></p><p>Follow Gillian on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/gigilaub/?hl=en">Instagram </a></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Gillian-Laub-Matters-Maya-Benton/dp/159711491X">FAMILY MATTERS</a> by Gillian Laub </p><p><a href="https://live2tell.com/about">Live2Tell </a></p><p> </p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>A widower has lost a spouse, an orphan has lost their parents, but what do you call someone who has lost a sibling? Oh, right — there’s no word for that. This week, we have the pleasure of connecting with cultural researcher, writer and storyteller Annie Sklaver Orenstein, author of Always A Sibling. After Annie’s brother Ben was tragically killed by a suicide bomber in Afghanistan, she found herself in the grief section of her local bookstore, searching for guidance on how to navigate the pain of losing a sibling — but found nothing. In a quest for understanding, Annie spent over a decade researching and talking with thousands of people around the world, exploring the unique bond between siblings and the deep sorrow that comes with losing one. Through recounting memories of her brother Ben and the insights learned from her research, Annie has crafted an incredible story that illuminates sibling love and loss.</p><p> </p><p><a href="https://www.annieorenstein.com/about">About Annie Sklaver Orenstein</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/anniesklaverorenstein/">Connect With Annie on Instagram </a></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Always-Sibling-Forgotten-Mourners-Guide/dp/030683149X">Always A Sibling</a></p><p><a href="https://time.com/6981447/memorial-day-military-siblings-essay/">Remembering Ben</a></p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>They say the influences of a great teacher can never be erased. And with that, we're honored to share with you the wit, wisdom and super soul vibe that is Marcia Meade aka The Chocolate Princess. A classically trained ballet and contemporary dancer and truly one of Brooklyn's finest, Marcia has made it her mission to bring Pilates to the people. As a certified instructor and life coach, she has the unique ability to teach smart and effective technique that goes beyond the mat and seamlessly creeps into daily life. She's been the source of transformation for so many bodies and minds alike (Holly can attest first hand) and honestly, she's just funny as f*ck. Take a listen and enjoy Marcia's musings on life, love and her connections to the other side.</p><p>More about <a href="https://www.instagram.com/thechocolateprincess/">Marcia </a></p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>It’s been two years to the week that Adam received his cancer diagnosis that changed the course of his life forever. Listen as we catch up and reflect on what that time was like for all of us.  Speaking of siblings, we’d be remiss not to discuss the recent flux of siblings on television lately. And surprise! Holly is heading to Abu Dhabi with her dad for a pilgrimage to the Middle East. Let’s hope he likes the food.</p><p> </p>
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