51% with Mable Jiang, Presented by Multicoin Capital

EP.59 [EN/CN] - Sunsetting 51% and Launching HODLong / 告别《伍拾壹说》与启动新品牌《后浪》

mable@multicoin.capital (Mable Jiang) — Sat, 7 May 2022 02:00:00 +0000

Hey guys! You’re listening to the 60th episode, which is also the last episode of 51%. I’m sunsetting this show and launching a brand new podcast brand, HODLong (which is homophonic to 后浪, or “next wave” in Mandarin). In the new podcast brand, I’ll continue to shed light to the Asia-based Web3 world, but will expand my interviewees to the broader Web3 community, whether that being operators, investors, or ecosystem participants of other forms. Some of my friends would also join me as co-hosts in some episodes.

It was an amazing journey to have done the 60 episodes of 51%, and I wouldn’t be able to advance the production without your feedback and suggestion. In the future production of HODLong, I would very much appreciate your continuous feedback. The subscription link to HODLong is in the show notes - Can’t wait to see you guys on the other side!

大家好！在陪伴大家走过了过去一年多之际，即日起五十一说将退役，我将成立一个全新的播客品牌《后浪》（与英文中的“Hodl long” 谐音）。在新的播客品牌里，我将持续对于亚洲的 Web3 世界投以关注，但《后浪》的受访人群体将会是更广范围的 Web3 社区运营者、投资人、和其他各种生态参与者。我也会邀请一些朋友作为联合主持在部分节目里出现。

过去的六十期五十一说的成长，离不开所有听众的持续反馈和建议。在《后浪》品牌的制作中，也十分希望大家能持续给予反馈。《后浪》的订阅链接在本期节目的节目笔记中，非常期待在新的节目里见到大家！

Subscription link to HODLong:

Simplecast: https://hodlong-hou-lang.simplecast.com

Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hodlong-%E5%90%8E%E6%B5%AA/id1622341355

Xiao Yu Zhou: https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/podcast/62735d9aa679bbb043f60ae3?s=eyJ1IjogIjYwNTg4ODc5ZTBmNWU3MjNiYjU3MGJmMSJ9

RSS Feed: https://feeds.simplecast.com/lnmJvIXR

《后浪》订阅链接：

Simplecast: https://hodlong-hou-lang.simplecast.com

苹果播客: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hodlong-%E5%90%8E%E6%B5%AA/id1622341355

小宇宙： https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/podcast/62735d9aa679bbb043f60ae3?s=eyJ1IjogIjYwNTg4ODc5ZTBmNWU3MjNiYjU3MGJmMSJ9

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EP.58 [CN] - 从Uncommon Core 最近一期播客展开来 / A Discussion around the Latest Episode of the Uncommon Core

mable@multicoin.capital (Harry Zhang, Mable Jiang) — Sun, 10 Apr 2022 06:21:26 +0000

这是又一期吹水播客。这一期里我和Harry坐下来聊了聊关于Uncommon Core 最新的一期播客里面一些有意思的点，还有一些其他漫谈。

This is another episode of chit chat. In this episode, Harry and I sat down and chatted about the interesting points occurred in the latest episode of Uncommon Core. We also covered some other topics.

EP.57 [CN] - Will Wang: 和 BAI Capital 聊聊互联网、Web3 与价值 / Talk about the Internet, Web3, and their value with BAI Capital

mable@multicoin.capital (Will Wang, Mable Jiang) — Sat, 2 Apr 2022 17:33:50 +0000

BAI Capital的合伙人Will Wang 在本期分享了他们从十年前开始投资互联网起，对于“程序”与“协议”的价值理解，以及他们今天针对Web3 网络价值的一些兴奋点。他基于过去的经验，比较了互联网时代与Web3时代的一些逻辑异同。

推特: @jpejpejpe18

网站: www.bai-cap.com

BAI Demo Day 链接：https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/2RDN7H3

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重要声明：Mable Jiang或嘉宾在播客中的观点仅代表他们的个人看法，并不代表Multicoin Capital官方的观点。此播客仅用于提供信息，不作为投资参考。Multicoin Capital有时可能会在此节目中讨论的某些代币或公司中持有头寸。

In this episode, Will Wang, Partner at BAI Capital, shared with us their insights about the value of "programs" and "protocols" since a decade ago when they started to invest in the Internet. He also explained what Web3 networks excites BAI Capital today. With his ample investment experience in the past, he compared and contrasted the mentality of the Internet era and that of the Web3 era.

Twitter: @jpejpejpe18

Website: www.bai-cap.com

Link to BAI Demo Day: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/2RDN7H3

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

Important Disclaimers: All opinions expressed by Mable Jiang, or other podcast guests, are solely their opinion and do not represent the opinions of Multicoin Capital in any way. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be construed as investment advice. Multicoin Capital may hold positions in some of the tokens and/or companies discussed on this show.

EP.56 [EN] - Justin Kan & David Wurtz: the Fractal NFT Marketplace and its Meta-game / Fractal NFT 交易市场和它的“超级游戏”

Fri, 1 Apr 2022 16:00:00 +0000

At the beginning of the episode, David and Justin touched upon their backgrounds (Twitch, Shopify, etc.,), and how those experience impacted their view on the direction of Fractal. They mentioned a couple ways how they think Fractal should be serving the game developers and engaging the platform users. We also compared the game developers in the traditional gaming studios versus web3 native game developers.

We spent some time to discuss the role of Fractal NFT in terms of defining Fractal as a "meta-game", and how they expect the NFT could incentivize users to have active interaction with games on the platform. We also talked about the feedback loop of mini-games versus big triple A games, and how they expect the two types of games to play out. Furthermore, we chatted about the question of community governance for games and for Fractal.

It was refreshing to hear these insights from the veterans of the web era!

Twitter: @fractalwagmi / @justinkan / @davidwurtz

Website: https://www.fractal.is/

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

在这一集的开头，David 和 Justin 谈到了他们的背景（Twitch、Shopify 等），以及这些经历如何影响他们对 Fractal 未来发展方向的看法。他们提到了他们认为 Fractal 应该如何服务于游戏开发者和与平台用户交互的几种方式。我们还比较了传统游戏工作室的游戏开发者和 web3 的原生游戏开发者。

我们花了一些时间讨论了 Fractal NFT 在将 Fractal 定义为“超级游戏”方面的作用，以及他们期望该 NFT 如何激励用户与平台上的游戏进行积极互动。我们还讨论了迷你游戏与大型 3A 游戏的反馈循环，以及他们认为这两种游戏未来的发展。此外，我们还谈到了对于游戏和对于Fractal而言的社区治理问题。

从这些互联网老兵听到这些见解令人耳目一新！

推特: @fractalwagmi / @justinkan / @davidwurtz

网站: https://www.fractal.is/

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EP.55 [CN] - Miao: 谈Superfluid 的可组合可编程流支付 / The Composable and Programmable Stream Payment of Superfluid

mable@multicoin.capital (Miao, Mable Jiang) — Fri, 18 Mar 2022 13:27:36 +0000

Miao 是 Superfluid 的联合创始人兼 CTO。他在本期伍拾壹说里介绍了 Superfluid 的团队，Superfluid 的愿景和使命，以及 Superfluid 在技术上是如何实现的。我们谈到了 Superfluid 作为通证化流支付渠道的可组合性和可编程性的优越性。此外，他还讨论了 Superfluid 的多链和跨链路线图。最后，我们聊了一些 Superfluid 现有和潜在的用例。

推特: @Superfluid_HQ

网站: https://www.superfluid.finance/

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Miao is the cofounder and CTO of Superfluid. He joined us to introduce the team at Superfluid, Superfluid 's vision and mission, and how Superfluid worked technically. We talked about the superiority of Superfluid's composability and programmability as a tokenized stream payment channel. Furthermore, he discussed the multi-chain and crosschain roadmap of Superfluid. At the end, we chatted about some of the existing and potential use cases of Superfluid.

Twitter: @Superfluid_HQ

Website: https://www.superfluid.finance/

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

EP.54 [EN] - Felix Sim: Empowering Guilds with Salad Academy and GuildOS / 用 Salad Academy 与 GuildOS 为工会赋能

mable@multicoin.capital (Felix Sim, Mable Jiang) — Sat, 12 Mar 2022 17:51:44 +0000

At the beginning of this episode, Felix told us about his background and his experience running a guild (which now is named Apollo Squad), and how those experience led to today's Salad Ventures. He introduced the three pillars of Salad Ventures: GuildOS, Salad Academy, and Apollo Squad.

He then explained to us what Salad Academy and GuildOS are, and the growth loop among the three pillars. We discussed what he thought the guild managers and players were optimizing for, and how Salad Ventures tried to better serve them. At the end we also discussed the open question about the future of "Play to Earn".

Twitter: @SaladVentures / @felixsim

Website: https://www.salad.ventures/

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

在这一集的开头，Felix 向我们讲述了他的背景和他经营公会（现在被命名为 Apollo Squad）的经历，以及这些经历如何促成了今天的 Salad Ventures。他介绍了 Salad Ventures 的三大组成部分：GuildOS、Salad Academy 和 Apollo Squad。

然后他向我们解释了Salad Academy和 GuildOS 是什么，以及Salad Ventures的三大组成部分之间的增长循环。我们讨论了他认为公会经理和玩家尽可能优化的目标，以及Salad Ventures如何试图更好地为他们服务。最后，我们还开放地讨论了关于“Play to Earn”未来何去何从的问题。

推特: @SaladVentures / @felixsim

网站: https://www.salad.ventures/

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EP.53 [EN] - Cindy & David: Making Drift a most-trader-friendly on-chain derivatives trading venue / 将Drift建造成最交易者友好的链上衍生品交易所

mable@multicoin.capital (Cindy Leow, David Lu, Mable Jiang) — Wed, 23 Feb 2022 14:00:00 +0000

In this episode, Cindy and David talked about how Drift's Dynamic vAMM and their recently launched Decentralized Limit Order Book (which uses a keeper network that executes queued trades against the DAMM) work. They discussed their consideration for assets that Drift chooses to support.

They also shared some milestones that Drift achieved over the past few months, and how they think about their GTM strategies, including their multi-chain strategy. Specifically, they discussed the products they'd like to support down the road, and explained why they prioritize certain products / markets over the others. At the end we chatted about some challenges they have encountered running a decentralized exchange.

The discussion was a lot of fun. You should also definitely try out their new product!

Twitter: @DriftProtocol / @cindyleowtt / @davijlu

Website: https://www.drift.trade/

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

在这一集中，Cindy 和 David 谈到了 Drift 的动态 vAMM 和他们最近推出的去中心化限价订单簿（它使用一个守望者网络，针对 DAMM 执行交易队列）是如何工作的。他们讨论了对 Drift 选择支持的市场/交易资产的考虑。

他们还分享了 Drift 在过去几个月中取得的一些里程碑，以及他们如何看待他们走向市场/获客的策略，包括他们的多链战略。他们讨论了他们希望支持的产品，并解释了为什么他们优先考虑某些产品/交易对而不是其他产品。最后，我们聊了聊他们在运行去中心化交易所时遇到的一些挑战。

本讨论很有意思。在听节目的你一定要试试他们的新产品！

推特: @DriftProtocol / @cindyleowtt / @davijlu

网站: https://www.drift.trade/

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EP.52 [EN] - 0xOdia: Solend as a Developer-powering Lending Protocol / Solend: 一个致力于服务开发者的借贷协议

mable@multicoin.capital (0xOdia, Mable Jiang) — Fri, 11 Feb 2022 05:00:04 +0000

Solend is one of the leading lending protocols on Solana. In this episode 0xOdia shared with us their vision and mission as a DeFi primitive, including powering more developers to build on top of Solend. We also chatted about their product strategy (such as the selection of the assets), partnerships and GTM strategy. You'll also hear about some fun pros and cons of being an anonymous team.

It was a very chilled conversation to have on a Friday!

Twitter: @solendprotocol / @0xodia

Website: https://solend.fi/

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

Solend 是 Solana 上领先的借贷协议之一。在这一集中，0xOdia 与我们分享了他们作为 DeFi 原语的愿景和使命，包括支持更多开发人员在 Solend 之上进行开发。我们还聊了聊他们的产品策略（比如资产的选择）、合作伙伴和市场触达策略。您还会听到作为匿名团队开发的一些有趣的利弊。

这是一场在周五进行的一次非常轻松愉快的谈话！

推特: @solendprotocol / @0xodia

网站: https://solend.fi/

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EP.51 [EN] - Ryan Li: Building a User-centric and Self-sovereign Social Graph Cyberconnect

mable@multicoin.capital (Ryan Li, Mable Jiang) — Fri, 28 Jan 2022 07:41:55 +0000

Ryan Li joined this episode as the CTO and cofounder of Cyberconnect. He and the CEO Wilson Wei and COO Shiyu Zhang used to be the cofounders of DLive and Lino blockchain.

We kicked off the discussion with some review on things that he thought they did right and wrong 3 years ago when they were building DLive (the Web3 Twitch), and how those experience helped them today on Cyberconnect.

We then went into the details of Cyberconnect's technical infrastructure; particularly how they're leveraging Ceramic, a decentralized mutable database as their building block, and how Cyberconnect as a user-centric decentralized indexing protocol is different from some of the contract-centric decentralized indexing protocols. We also talked about some of the potential challenges that Ceramic as an brand-new network could face, and how the Cyberconnect team is working hand-in-hand with Ceramic to improve on those things. Ryan also explained their approach of "progressive decentralization" to mitigate some of the short-term difficulties in network scalability or stability, with the acknowledgement of the potential points of failures in these workarounds.

At the end we talked about the exciting use cases of Cyberconnect.

Twitter: @CyberConnectHQ / @ryanli_me

Website: https://cyberconnect.me/

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

Ryan Li 作为 Cyberconnect 的 CTO 和联合创始人加入了这一集。他和 CEO Wilson Wei 和 COO Shiyu Zhang 曾是 DLive 和 Lino 区块链的联合创始人。

我们回顾了 3 年前他们在做 DLive（Web3 Twitch）时Ryan觉得他们做对和做错的事情，并讨论了这些经验如何帮助他们在今天搭建Cyberconnect 。

然后我们详细讨论了 Cyberconnect 的技术基础设施；特别是他们如何利用去中心化可变数据库 Ceramic作为基础，以及 Cyberconnect 作为围绕用户为中心的去中心化索引协议，与某些围绕合约为中心的去中心化索引协议有何不同。我们还谈到了 Ceramic 作为一个全新网络可能面临的一些潜在挑战，以及 Cyberconnect 团队如何与 Ceramic 携手改进这些事情。 Ryan 还解释了他们的“渐进式去中心化”方法，以缓解一些短期的扩容和稳定性问题，并列出了这些解决方案的潜在失败点。

最后，我们谈到了 Cyberconnect 令人兴奋的用例。

推特: @CyberConnectHQ / @ryanli_me

网站: https://cyberconnect.me/

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EP.50 [CN] - Yawn, Jerry & Jason: Move2Earn 应用 STEPN 的爆款之路 / the Move2Earn Application StepN's Path towards Mass Adoption

Fri, 21 Jan 2022 06:27:22 +0000

在这一集中，我们邀请了三位嘉宾：STEPN 的联合创始人 Yawn & Jerry，以及STEPN 种子轮的领投方 Folius Ventures 的创始人 Jason。

我们开始讨论为什么作为连续创业者的 Yawn 和 Jerry 决定尝试 Move2Earn 的创业想法。他们三人还讨论了他们为什么认为 STEPN 团队最有可能做出具有大规模采用潜力的生活方式和社交的应用。

联合创始人们分享了他们对团队管理和流量增长的一些关键见解。然后，我们将讨论的重点转移到了 Web3 游戏的经济设计上。创始人们还分享了他们早期的创业经历。这是我在伍拾壹说里主持过的最有深度的聊天之一。

推特: @Stepnofficial

网站: https://stepn.com/

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In this episode we hosted three guests: Yawn & Jerry, the cofounders of STEPN, and Jason, the founder of Folius Ventures and a lead investor in the seed round of STEPN.

We started the discussion with why Yawn and Jerry, both as serial entrepreneurs, decided to go after the start-up idea of Move2Earn. Three of them also discussed their view on why they believe that the team at STEPN best suits to deliver a lifestyle and social application with a huge potential of mass adoption.

The cofounders shared some of their key insights of team management and traction boostrapping. We then shifted our focus of discussion to the economics design in Web3 games. They also shared their early entrepreneurial experience. It's one of the most insightful chats that I ever had at 51%.

Twitter: @Stepnofficial

Website: https://stepn.com/

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

EP.49 [CN] - 2211 & 0x128: Eyesfi & SphinxUP 如何赋能非应用类NFT藏家与艺术家 / Empowering the non-utility NFT Connoisseurs and Artists with Eyesfi & SphinxUP

mable@multicoin.capital (2211, 0x128, Mable Jiang) — Sat, 15 Jan 2022 03:18:04 +0000

2211 和 0x128 是 Eyesfi 和 SphinxUp 的核心贡献者，这是一套旨在更好地满足 NFT 鉴赏家和艺术家需求的工具套件。这一集真的很令人兴奋，因为从这个对话中我第一次了解到为什么人们对生成艺术产生浓厚的兴趣。

我们首先谈到了他们是如何开始对收藏产生兴趣的。然后深入探讨了生成艺术。作为收藏家，他们解释了迄今为止艺术家和鉴赏家尚未满足的需求，以及 Eyesfi 和 SphinxUp 如何努力更好地满足这些需求。我们还讨论了NFT交易和收藏市场的现状。

推特: @SphinxUp / @eyesfi_com

网站: https://www.eyesfi.com/

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2211 and 0x128 are the core contributors of Eyesfi and SphinxUP, a suite of toolkits that aims to better serve the need of NFT connoisseurs and artists. This episode is a truly exciting one because for the first time I learned about why people are intrigued by the generative arts.

We first talked about how they started their interest in collecting the arts. Then took a deep dive into the generative arts. As collectors, they explained the unmet demand of the artists and connoisseurs as of today, and how Eyesfi and SphinxUP are working to better serve these demands. We also covered discussions around the conditions of the existing marketplaces.

Twitter: @SphinxUp / @eyesfi_com

Website: https://www.eyesfi.com/

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

EP.48 [CN] - George：REALY如何重新定义时尚与生活方式 / How REALY redefines Fashion and Lifestyle

mable@multicoin.capital (George Yang, Mable Jiang) — Thu, 23 Dec 2021 02:00:00 +0000

在开始 REALY 之前，George 深耕时尚行业。该团队多年来发现了该行业面临的许多挑战，并在 2018 年底决定利用crypto技术来解决一些问题。

在这一集中，George 分享了 REALY 如何开始作为发行和交易 1:1 NFT 支持的实体时尚商品的平台，以及他们如何扩展自己以探索虚拟世界中的数字时尚。作为一个从实体商业开始创业的创始人，George 分享了他关于 Web3 组织之间的协作方式与传统行业中的公司的运作方式有何不同的看法。

我认为这对目前从事传统业务但试图探索 Web3 潜力的创始人们来说，可能会是有用的一集。

推特: @RealyOfficial

网站: https://realy.pro/

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Before starting REALY, George was deep in the fashion industry. The team identified a lot of challenges of the industry over the years, and at the end of 2018 they decided to leverage crypto to solve some of the problems .

In this episode George shared how REALY started as a platform that issues and trades 1:1 NFT-backing physical fashion items, and how they expanded themselves to explore the digital fashion in the virtual world. As a founder who started his entrepreneurship from business in the real world, George shared his view on how the collaboration ethos in the Web3 organizations is different from that in the traditional industry.

I think this will be a useful episode among the founders who are currently doing the more traditional business but trying to explore the Web3 potentials.

Twitter: @RealyOfficial

Website: https://realy.pro/

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

EP.47 [CN] - Bowen & Harry: 一场隔离期间的Web3 吹水 / A Chit Chat Conversation about Web3 during the Quarantine

mable@multicoin.capital (Mable Jiang, Bowen Wang, Harry Zhang) — Mon, 20 Dec 2021 16:13:20 +0000

昨天宝子在他的微信公众号上发布了一篇关于Web3的吐槽文章（也是一篇拖欠已久的）。我们几个决定今天聚在一起录制这个播客并讨论这些流行语：“Web3”、“metaverse”和“DAO”。

我们回顾了很多东西，比如 Lino / dLive——Harry 和他的联合创始人曾经致力的东西。我们还谈到了计划投资这个行业的（传统）资金，以及来自传统背景的人才。我们结束谈话在关于 Web3 游戏，它也是让 Bowen 非常兴奋的事情。

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Yesterday Bowen posted a roast article (also a long due one) about Web3 on his WeChat Official Account. We decided to get together today to record this podcast and talk about these buzzwords: "Web3", "metaverse", and "DAO".

We reviewed a bunch of things, such as Lino / dLive - something that Harry and his cofounders used to work on. We also talked about the (traditional) money that plans to invest in this industry, and talents coming from the traditional background. We ended our conversation on Web3 gaming, something that Bowen is extremely excited about.

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EP.46 [EN] - Felix Xu: A Dialogue with an art NFT Collector and a Community Member of Hic Et Nunc / 一场和NFT艺术品收藏家和Hic Et Nunc社区成员的对话

mable@multicoin.capital (Felix Xu, Mable Jiang) — Sat, 18 Dec 2021 02:55:57 +0000

As the verticalization of NFT become more obvious, the NFT art circle has also been expanding significantly. Felix in this episode shared with us the how he got started in NFT art collecting and his involvement with Hic Et Nunc (HEN). As a community member of HEN he discussed some of the community governance proposal after the original creator of the platform left. If you're interested in why HEN had a loyal group of artists and community members, you should listen to this episode.

Twitter: @felixmxu

Hic Et Nunc's Website: https://hicetnunc.art/

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

随着 NFT 的垂直化越来越明显，NFT 艺术圈也得到了显着的扩展。 Felix 在这一集中与我们分享了他如何开始 NFT 艺术收藏以及他在 Hic Et Nunc (HEN) 社区的参与。作为 HEN 的社区成员，他讨论了一些HEN的社区治理提案（在平台的初始创建者离开后）。如果您好奇 HEN 拥有一群忠实的艺术家和社区成员的原因，您应该收听这一集。

推特: @felixmxu
Hic Et Nunc 网站：https://hicetnunc.art/

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EP.45 [EN] - JC: Unique Value Proposition of Qilin as a Permissionleess Decentralized Perpetual Swap / 无准入去中心化永续合约麒麟的独特价值

mable@multicoin.capital (JC Zhang, Mable Jiang) — Sat, 18 Dec 2021 01:37:30 +0000

In this chat about Qilin protocol, JC discussed why permissionlessness and volatility are pivotal to decentralized derivatives protocols. He specifically expanded on the aspects of permissionlessness that Qilin enabled. We exchanged some views on certain things that DeFi enabled that CeFi did not.

JC took a deep dive on the construction and design of Qilin, and the reason behind certain choices. He shared some of the observations (which they found surprising as well) in their testnet stats.

At the end we also talked about the general decentralized derivatives space and their view on the multichain strategy.

Twitter: @QilinProtocol

Website: https://qilin.fi/

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

在这次关于 Qilin 协议的探讨中，JC 讨论了为什么去中心化衍生品协议的关键是无许可和波动性。他特别强调了了麒麟启用的无许可包括的方面。我们就 DeFi 能做到而 CeFi 不能的某些事情交换了一些看法。

JC 对于麒麟的构造和设计以及某些选择背后的原因进行了深入展开。他基于在他们的测试网统计数据中分享了一些观察结果（一些令他们也感到惊讶的）。

最后我们还谈到了一般的去中心化衍生品空间以及他们对多链策略的看法。

推特: @QilinProtocol
网站：https://qilin.fi/

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EP.44 [EN] - Dmitriy Berenzon: On the Crosschain Solutions and their Trade-offs / 关于各种跨链解决方案与取舍

mable@multicoin.capital (Dmitriy Berenzon, Mable Jiang) — Fri, 19 Nov 2021 21:54:03 +0000

A few weeks back, Dmitriy wrote an article about the cross-chain bridges. As more activities took off on the EVM chains, Solana and Terra, I invited Dmitriy to talk about the crosschain designs and their trade-offs on 51%.

We started off the discussion by a simple question "why cross-chain is important". Then we dived into the different buckets that Dmitriy categorized the different cross-chain solutions into. For the detailed categorization, please read: https://medium.com/1kxnetwork/blockchain-bridges-5db6afac44f8

We also talked about the red ocean competition of all the cross-chain solutions and how can a specific solution stand out. In addition to L1s, we also discussed the future of L2s.

Twitter: @dberenzon

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

几周前，Dmitriy 写了一篇关于跨链桥的文章。随着越来越多的活动在 EVM 链、Solana 和 Terra 上展开，我邀请 Dmitriy 谈论跨链设计及其对 51% 的权衡。

我们从一个简单的问题“为什么跨链很重要”开始讨论。然后我们深入研究了 Dmitriy 将不同的跨链解决方案归入的不同类别。详细分类请阅读：https://medium.com/1kxnetwork/blockchain-bridges-5db6afac44f8

我们还谈到了所有跨链解决方案的红海竞争，以及一个特定的解决方案如何能脱颖而出。除了 L1，我们还讨论了 L2 的未来。

推特: @dberenzon

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EP.43 [EN] - Thanh Le: Coin98's Journey in the Global Multichain-verse / Coin98 在全球多链宇宙中的旅程

mable@multicoin.capital (Thanh Le, Mable Jiang) — Fri, 29 Oct 2021 10:26:45 +0000

In the past 51% never invited anyone from Vietnam to join the episodes. This time we were able to get Thanh Le, the co-founder of Coin98 to talk about the growth and the vision of the project.

He started with introducing the product strategy of Coin98 brand. He then talked about why they're applying a multichain strategy, particularly the success with engaging Solana early. We also discussed why Coin98 incubated projects in the Terra and Solana ecosystem.

A highlight of this episode is where Thanh talked about his view about DeFi Superapp - a question that I also spent a lot of time thinking. At the end I asked a challenging question of what the ultimate state of the wallet sector is. Let's tune in and listen what Thanh has to say!

Twitter: @imlethanh98 / @coin98_wallet / @coin98_labs / @Coin98Analytics

Website: https://coin98.com/

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

在过去，51% 的人从未邀请过任何来自越南的人参与录制。这次我们有机会请到Coin98的联合创始人Thanh Le来谈谈Coin98钱包的成长和愿景。

他首先介绍了Coin98品牌的产品策略。然后他谈到了他们为什么要应用多链策略，尤其是早期接入 Solana 所获得的成功。我们还讨论了为什么 Coin98 在 Terra 和 Solana 生态系统中孵化项目。

这一集的一个亮点是 Thanh 谈到了他对 DeFi Superapp 的看法——一个我也花了很多时间思考的问题。最后，我问了一个具有挑战性的问题，即钱包赛道的最终状态是什么。让我们听听 Thanh 怎么说吧！

推特: @imlethanh98 / @coin98_wallet / @coin98_labs / @Coin98Analytics
网站：https://coin98.com/

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EP.42 [CN] - ？: 聊聊去中心化存储 / A Chat about Decentralized Storage

mable@multicoin.capital (Mable Jiang) — Sun, 17 Oct 2021 11:10:14 +0000

由于一些原因，这一期匿名录制。嘉宾是去中心化存储领域的专家，也是行业里较早的OG之一。

我们的嘉宾谈到了去中心化存储的历史以及该领域的一些重要项目（Filecoin、Arweave、Sia 等）。然后他深入探讨了 Chia，以及 PoC 共识算法流行的原因。我们接着讨论了 Filecoin 作为世界一流的去中心化存储解决方案所面临的挑战，并将其技术/经济设计与 Arweave 的设计进行了比较。

这是极具教育意义的一期。我对去中心化存储的认知较浅，因此这次谈话无疑给了我很多新的启发。

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For the security purpose we kept the guest of this episode anonymous. The guest is an expert in decentralized storage and one of the OGs in China.

Our guest talked about the history of decentralized storage and some of the important projects in the field (Filecoin, Arweave, Sia, etc.,). He then took a deep dive on Chia, and the reason why PoC consensus algorithem became popular. We went on to talk about the challenges that Filecoin as a world-class decentralized storage solution faces, and compared its technical / economic design with the design of Arweave.

This is a highly educational episode. I am not an expert in decentralized storage so having this conversation certainly inspired me with a lot of new insights.

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

EP.41 [CN] - Xiahong: 一个喜欢构思新事物的投资人 / An Investor with a 0 to 1 Builder Mindset

mable@multicoin.capital (Xiahong Lin, Mable Jiang) — Mon, 27 Sep 2021 04:36:31 +0000

林吓洪是肯定牛资本的联合创始人。之前我们还邀请过肯定牛资本的另一位联合创始人匹马做客伍拾壹说，所以我们在这一集中没有过多谈论肯定牛资本的投资。

我们讨论了不少关于吓洪作为一个创业者的思路如何影响他的投资主题的。我们也就18年盛行的“胖协议”主题今天是否仍然适用交换了看法。他回顾了他在过去一个周期中的一些学习和一些失误。我们还谈到了疫情如何影响了我们的生活方式和心态。

这是老朋友聊天的一集。希望这次轻松的谈话能给每个人一点独特的感悟。

推特: @xhlin

肯定牛资本网站: https://continue.capital/

与匹马的播客（Ep. 26）: https://51-with-mable-jiang-presented-by-multicoin-capital.simplecast.com/episodes/ep26-cn-pi-ma

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Xiahong Lin is the co-founder of Continue Capital. Previously we also invited Pima, the other co-founder of Continue Capital, to join the 51% pod, so we didn't ponder too much about Continue Capital's investment in this episode.

We chatted quite extensively how Xiahong's mindset as a builder impacted his investment thesis. We also exchanged our view on the "Fat Protocol" thesis about if it still holds true today. He reviewed some of his learning and misses over the past cycle. We also touched upon how the pandemic impacted our lifestyle and mentality.

This is an episode of old friends chatting. Hope it could offer everyone some unique takeaway from this easygoing conversation.

Twitter: @xhlin

Continue Capital's Website: https://continue.capital/

Ep. 26 with Pima: https://51-with-mable-jiang-presented-by-multicoin-capital.simplecast.com/episodes/ep26-cn-pi-ma

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

EP.40 [CN] - Maki 离开Sushi核心社区的告别信 / Maki's Farewell Letter from the Sushi Core

mable@multicoin.capital (0xMaki, Mable Jiang) — Sat, 18 Sep 2021 10:35:08 +0000

0xMaki《进入顾问角色》原文链接：

https://forum.sushi.com/t/transition-into-advisor/5533

Link to 0xMaki's Transition into Advisor post:

https://forum.sushi.com/t/transition-into-advisor/5533

EP.39 [CN] - Bowen: 谈谈DeFi 简史与以太坊MEV现实 / On the Brief History of DeFi & ETH MEV Reality

mable@multicoin.capital (Mable Jiang, Bowen Wang) — Fri, 10 Sep 2021 12:41:45 +0000

在这一集中，Smrti Labs 联合创始人Bowen和我坐下来聊了两个话题：DeFi 和以太坊 MEV（矿工可提取价值）。

我们沿时间线回顾了 DeFi 的发展，并触及了产品市场契合点的讨论。Bowen 还讨论了在他的世界观中哪些是使 DeFi 协议脱颖而出的点。

然后我们的话题自然而然地转向了以太坊上的 MEV。我们谈到了两个现有的解决方案，Flashbots 和 Eden Network。

推特: @Bowenddex

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In this episode, the co-founder of Smarti Labs, Bowen, sat down with me to talk about two subjects: DeFi and Ethereum MEV (miner extractable value).

We reviewed the development of DeFi with its timeline and touched upon the point of product market fit. Bowen also discussed the order of importance for a DeFi protocol to stand out in his world view.

The topic then naturally pivoted to the MEV on Ethereum. We touched upon two existing solutions, Flashbots and Eden Network.

Twitter: @Bowenddex

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

EP.38 [CN] - Frank Lou: Unipass and its Vision for Web 3.0 Mass Adoption / 知县：Unipass 与它的Web 3.0 大规模应用愿景

mable@multicoin.capital (Mable Jiang, Frank Lou) — Mon, 6 Sep 2021 08:40:48 +0000

在这一集中，知县介绍了 Lay2 团队的背景，并解释了他们在 2017 年决定加入区块链行业的原因。他与我们讨论了 Portal Wallet 的产品以及它的发展如何指向 Unipass 产品的构思。

知县谈到了他对 Web 3.0 如何达到与移动互联网相同的大规模采用水平的看法，并提到了 Unipass 的一些用例。他还解释了产品的安全假设和私钥存储解决方案。具体地，他解释了为什么电子邮件作为一种持续了 50 年的协议是跨越 Web 2.0 和 3.0 的标准。

然后我们讨论了 Web 3.0 中的身份，链上信誉的存在形式，以及像 Y.at 这样的新产品（人们为什么愿意为此付费）。我们还谈到了人们在不同区块链上聚合他们的信誉的潜在可能性。

知县还谈到了他以去中心化方式运营团队的经验，这对于想要去中心化运营团队的创业者来说可能非常有意义。

推特: @Lay2dev

EP.37 [EN] - Harry Zhang: Project Galaxy - From Enabling the Shadowy Super Coders to Empowering the Decentralized On-chain Credential Network / Project Galaxy - 从助力“超级影子码农”到去中心化链上声誉网络

mable@multicoin.capital (Harry Zhang, Mable Jiang) — Tue, 24 Aug 2021 13:55:00 +0000

At 7am PDT August 24, 2021, Project Galaxy launched its "Shadowy Super Coder" NFT Perks Campaign for over 100,000 eligible blockchain developers along with the sponsorship partners Tenderly, Alchemy, Polygon, Gitcoin, Ankr, Parsiq, Torus, Quicknode, Curvegrid, and OneKey. The perk package for the eligible developers includes a specially-designed Shadowy Coder NFT, and various exclusive perks that are worth more than $300 million USD.

I got to know the team at Project Galaxy at the beginning of 2021. Started as a user engagement NFT module platform, over the past few months Project Galaxy launched many campaigns with protocol partners on Ethereum, Binance Smart Chain, and others.

In this episode I discussed with Harry about the current use cases of Project Galaxy, and the community's feedbacks on the campaigns. He shared with us about how these user engagement campaigns can be scaled to a permissionless process. We further discussed the "Shadowy Super Coder" campaign, what this campaign meant for Project Galaxy's users (projects), and the next step for more projects to use Galaxy as a targeted marketing module. We compared the decentralized versus centralized approach for data curation, and where Harry believed the future would look like. We also talked about the social apps and what Harry believes to be pivotal for the Web 3.0 social apps.

For anyone who's keen with the on-chain credentialing / decentralized data-curation space, you should tune in this episode.

Twitter: @harryzhanghz / @ProjectGalaxyHQ

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

太平洋夏令时间 2021 年 8 月 24 日上午 7 点，Project Galaxy 联合赞助合作伙伴 Tenderly、Alchemy、Polygon、Gitcoin、Ankr、Parsiq、Torus、Quicknode、Curvegrid 和OneKey 发布 “Shadowy Super Coder” 市场活动，为符合条件的开发人员提供链上大礼包，包括专门设计的 Shadowy Coder NFT，以及价值超过 3 亿美元的各种独家特权。

我在 2021 年初认识了 Project Galaxy 的团队。Project Galaxy 从做一个用户荣誉体系的 NFT 发布模块平台开始，在过去几个月中，Project Galaxy 与以太坊和币安智能链上的协议合作伙伴发起了许多活动。在这一集中，我与 Harry 讨论了 Project Galaxy 的当前用例，以及社区对各个活动的反馈。他与我们分享了如何将这些用户荣誉体系/激励活动能扩展到无需许可的流程。我们进一步讨论了“Shadowy Super Coder”市场活动，该活动对 Project Galaxy 的用户（项目方）意味着什么，以及下一步如何让更多项目使用 Galaxy 作为有针对性的营销模块。我们比较了去中心化和集中式数据管理方法，以及 Harry 认为未来Web 3的数据管理形态。我们还讨论了社交应用程序，以及 Harry 认为对 Web 3.0 社交应用程序至关重要的内容。

对于任何热衷于链上凭证/去中心化数据管理空间的人，你应该听听看这一集。

推特: @harryzhanghz / @ProjectGalaxyHQ

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EP.36 [CN] - Yuan: 聊聊要制定全球物联网标准的Helium网络 / On the Global IoT Standard-setting Helium Network

mable@multicoin.capital (Yuan Gao, Mable Jiang) — Sun, 15 Aug 2021 07:02:42 +0000

人们对最近由 a16z 领投的 Helium 融资轮感到非常兴奋。因此今天我采访了Helium中国区负责人Yuan，请他向我们的听众介绍了与Helium相关的所有基本知识。

我们回顾了 Helium Inc 的历史，以及 Helium 自 2019 年推出基于区块链网络以来所取得的进展。为了帮助听众更好地了解物联网网络世界，Yuan 对 Starlink 和 Helium 网络进行了比较。

我们还讨论了 Helium 在过去 3 年中取得的重要里程碑，以及 Helium 选择开源硬件的原因。 Yuan 还揭开了 Helium 的 lora-WAN 网络在现实世界中的潜在需求的神秘面纱，并列出了一些非常有前景的网络使用领域。

Yuan还谈了本轮融资的潜在用途，以及未来 Helium 的战略计划。最后，我们讨论了 Helium Inc.（公司）和 DeWi 联盟（Helium基金会，DAO）之间的关系——我认为这种关系可以成为 DAO 历史上的一个案例研究。

网站: https://Helium.com / https://www.dewi.org/

推特: @helium / @dewialliance

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People were quite excited by the recent fundraising round of Helium led by a16z. So today I interviewed Yuan, Head of China of Helium, about all the fundamental stuffs related to Helium for our listeners.

We reviewed the history of Helium Inc, and the progress Helium made ever since it launched its blockchain-based network in 2019. To help our listeners better understand the world of IoT networks, Yuan compared and contrast Starlink and Helium network.

We also talked about the important milestones that Helium hit over the past 3 years, and why Helium went for opensource hardware. Yuan also demystified the potential demand of Helium's lora-WAN network in the real world, and listed a few highly promising areas of usage of the network.

Yuan also debriefed the potential use of proceeds of the funding round, and the upcoming strategic plans for Helium. At the end, we discussed the relationship between the Helium Inc., (company) and the DeWi Alliance (DAO) - a relationship that I think can become a case study in the DAO history.

Website: https://Helium.com / https://www.dewi.org/

Twitter: @helium / @dewialliance

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

EP.35 [EN] - Allen Lee: Finding the Long-term Alpha from Beta Finance / 从 Beta Finance 中寻找长期制胜秘诀

mable@multicoin.capital (Allen Lee, Mable Jiang) — Wed, 4 Aug 2021 17:04:39 +0000

In this episode, Allen sat down with us to talk about the inspiration of Beta Finance - why he built the protocol, and the users of the protocol. He walked our audience through the user experience of Beta Finance. Allen also pointed out the distinction of Beta Finance from some other short-selling tools and other single-vault lending products.

We also spent a bit of time on the value accrual of Beta token as well as the value created for the Alpha Finance ecosystem. Allen specifically talked about his experience going through the Alpha Launchpad program, and shared the tips for other devs to apply for the program.

Twitter: @beta_finance / @_allenjl

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

在这一集中，Allen 与我们坐下来谈论他创始 Beta Finance 的灵感，以及协议的用户。他向我们的听众介绍了 Beta Finance 的用户体验。另外 Allen 还解释了了 Beta Finance 与市场上其他一些做空工具和其他单一金库借贷产品的区别。

我们还花了一些时间研究 Beta 通证的价值捕获以及为 Alpha Finance 生态系统创造的价值。 Allen 特别讲述了他参与 Alpha Launchpad 计划的经历，并分享了给其他开发者申请该计划的建议。

推特: @beta_finance / @_allenjl

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EP.34 [CN] - Maple Leaf Capital / Qiao Wang: 一场放飞自我的治理讨论 / A Happy Governance Chit Chat

mable@multicoin.capital (Qiao Wang, Maple Leaf Capital) — Sat, 24 Jul 2021 05:31:31 +0000

这一集是三个朋友关于去中心化治理的闲聊。

我们谈到了权力分配/代表的程度，效率和民主之间的平衡。我们还讨论了现有实践中治理崩溃的可能性。最后，我们讨论了一些现有产品进入去中心化社交应用程序的潜力。

谈话有很多有趣的点，有机会一定要收听！

推特: @MapleLeafCap / @QwQiao

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This episode is a casual chat among three friends about decentralized governance.

We talked about the degree of power division / representation, the balance between efficiency and democracy. We also chatted about the possibilities of governance breakdown in the existing practices. At the end, we talked about the potential of a few existing products going into a decentralized social app.

The conversation was an absolutely BLAST. A lot of interesting points. You should definitely tune in!

Twitter: @MapleLeafCap / @QwQiao

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

EP.33 [CN] - Iris / Anthony: The Graph 与 StreamingFast 的 Web 3.0 愿景 / The Web 3.0 Vision of the Graph and StreamingFast

mable@multicoin.capital (Iris Ni, Mable Jiang, Anthony Zhang) — Mon, 19 Jul 2021 03:59:29 +0000

在这一集中，我们首先讨论了 The Graph 和 StreamingFast 的作用——我们回顾了他们自成立以来的组织历史。 Iris 在不同的角色如何在 The Graph 网络中相互协作这一点上展开。Anthony 特别解释了 StreamingFast 如何帮助 The Graph 在 PancakeSwap 上有效规模化。

我们还讨论了他们每个人如何认为 The Graph / StreamingFast 可以帮助 Web 3.0 世界的进步。还有一个有趣的亮点是我们关于去中心化世界中的收购以及治理如何运作的对话。

网站: https://thegraph.com / https://streamingfast.io/

推特: @graphprotocol / @streamingfastio

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In this episode we first talked about what the Graph and StreamingFast do - we reviewed their organization history since inception. Iris expanded on how the different players / roles work with each other in the Graph network. Anthony specifically explained how StreamingFast helped the Graph with scaling on PancakeSwap.

We also discussed how each of them thought the Graph / StreamingFast could help with the progress of Web 3.0. An interesting highlight here is our conversation about the acquisition in the decentralized world, and how the governance would work.

Website: https://thegraph.com / https://streamingfast.io/

Twitter: @graphprotocol / @streamingfastio

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

EP.32 [EN] - Alex Svanevik: A Deep Dive into Nansen's Services and some DAO Discussion / 深入探讨Nansen的数据服务及一些DAO的讨论

mable@multicoin.capital (Mable Jiang, Alex Svanevik) — Mon, 12 Jul 2021 06:21:51 +0000

In this episode, Alex shared with us about Nansen's three major value proposition for the users and its intentional choice of running a SAAS for on-chain data analytics service (instead of with a decentralized network). In light of the recent funding round, we talked about Nansen's business prioritization in the next few months, including the blockchain integration and data tags addition.

We also had a nice discussion about the existing building blocks / primitives of DAO infrastructure and how different pieces could tie together to serve the protocol DAOs.

Website: nansen.ai

Twitter: @ASvanevik

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

在这一集中，Alex 与我们分享了 Nansen 为用户提供的三个主要价值以及它有意选择以企业服务（SAAS）的方式提供链上数据分析服务（而不是以去中心化网络的方式）。基于Nansen 近期公布的融资信息，我们也讨论了接下来的几个月Nansen的业务优先级，包括区块链集成和数据标签添加。

我们还对 DAO 基础设施的现有构建模块，以及不同的部分如何结合在一起为协议 DAO 提供服务，进行了很有意思的讨论。

网站: nansen.ai

推特: @ASvanevik

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EP.31 [CN] - Nikkor + Yuan : 深挖永续协议 Perp.fi v2 / A Deep Dive in Perpetual Protocol v2

mable@multicoin.capital (Mable Jiang, Yuan Gao, Nikkor Wang) — Fri, 2 Jul 2021 10:11:54 +0000

我们从回顾 Perp v1 的工作原理以及设计的优缺点开始这一集。接着我们开始讨论 Perp 团队在发布 v2 之前所做的其他一些工作。

然后我们讨论了 Perp v2 的细节，包括该协议如何利用现有的 Uniswap v3 设计以及引入更复杂的“做市商（即流动性提供者）”的演变角色。我们也触及了预言机和无准入开设市场的议题。然后进入了PERP通证经济学和去中心化协议治理权的探讨——用更为形而上的讨论完美做结。

这一集深入聊到了v2设计的一些核心点，里面的讨论是我非常享受的。希望你也喜欢！

推特: @Perpprotocol

永续协议网站：https://www.perp.fi/

更多信息，请移步官网https://multicoin.capital/zh

We started this episode with reviewing how Perp v1 worked, and the pros and cons of the design. We then head into discussing some other effort that the Perp team made before publishing v2.

We then talked about the details of Perp v2, including how the protocol leverages the existing Uniswap v3 design and the evolved role of the more sophisticated "makers (i.e. liquidity providers)". We also touched upon the discussion of the oracle and the permissionless market creation. The discussion then went onto the tokenomics and decentralized protocols' governance rights - which perfectly concluded the discussion more metaphysically.

This episode really went into the bread and butter of the design and I truly enjoyed the discussion. Hope you do too!

Twitter: @Perpprotocol

Perpetual Protocol's Website: https://www.perp.fi/

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

EP.30 [CN] - Qiao Wang : 漫谈数据服务、DeFi Alliance与元宇宙 / On Crypto Data Services, DeFi Alliance, and Metaverse

mable@multicoin.capital (Qiao Wang, Mable Jiang) — Fri, 25 Jun 2021 04:54:23 +0000

Qiao早期在 Messari 负责产品，并于去年与 Imran 和 Jacob 共同创立了 DeFi Alliance。今天我们讨论了他参与 Messari 和 DeFi Alliance 时的观察，并讨论了他对加密领域的数据服务和DeFi 创业团队的一些看法。

我们还谈到了“超级周期（Supercycle）”的概念。最有趣的是，我们聊了他最近读的一本书——《三体》，并讨论了太空探索和元宇宙之间的关系。

推特: @QwQiao

DeFi Alliance 网站: https://defialliance.co/

更多信息，请移步官网https://multicoin.capital/zh

Qiao led the effort of product at Messari in the early days, and founded DeFi Alliance last year with Imran and Jacob. Today we talked about his observations at Messari and DeFi Alliance, and discussed some of his takeaways about the crypto data services and builders in the DeFi space.

We also touched upon the concept of "Supercyle". Most interestingly, we chatted about a reading that he recently did - the Three Body Problem, and discussed the relationship between the space odyssey and metaverse.

Twitter: @QwQiao

DeFi Alliance Website: https://defialliance.co/

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

EP.29 [EN] - Tascha Punyaneramitdee: Scaling DeFi Problem Solving with the Alpha Launchpad / 用Alpha Launchpad 规模化 DeFi解决方案

mable@multicoin.capital (Mable Jiang, Tascha Punyaneramitdee) — Sun, 13 Jun 2021 07:59:45 +0000

Alpha Finance Lab started its exploration as a DeFi problem solving hub by delivering products that capture unaddressed demand in an innovative and user friendly way. Two days ago, Alpha Finance Lab announced the launch of Alpha Launchpad, formally starting the first incubator program in DeFi created by builders to help other builders launch and grow.

Tascha in this episode reviewed with us the journey that the team went through since Alpha Finance Lab launched in 2020. A primary focus of our conversation was on how Alpha Launchpad incubator program will bring tremendous growth to Alpha Finance Lab, developers & builders in the space, and the overall DeFi product ecosystem. We went through a couple topics, including the value accrual to the ALPHA token, as well as the potential support to the developers who participate in the Launchpad.

If you are building something cool and looking for some systematic support, you should give this episode a listen!

Website: https://alphafinance.io/

Twitter: @AlphaFinanceLab

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

Important Disclaimers: All opinions expressed by Mable Jiang, or other podcast guests, are solely their opinion and do not represent the opinions of Multicoin Capital in any way. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be construed as investment advice. Multicoin Capital may hold positions in some of the tokens and/or companies discussed on this show.

Alpha Finance Lab 最初在DeFi的探索是通过捕捉未满足的需求提供创新和用户友好的的DeFi产品开始的。前两天，Alpha Finance Lab宣布启动Alpha Launchpad，正式启动了DeFi中第一个由建设者创建的孵化器计划，以帮助其他建设者启动和成长。

本集中 Tascha 与我们一起回顾了自 Alpha Finance Lab 于 2020 年启动以来该团队所经历的旅程。我们谈话的主要聚焦在 Alpha Launchpad 孵化器计划将如何为 Alpha Finance Lab、该领域的开发建设者，以及整个 DeFi 产品生态系统带来巨大的增长。我们讨论了几个主题，包括 Alpha Launchpad 将如何赋能 ALPHA 代币，以及能对参与 Launchpad 的开发者们提供的支持。

如果你正在构建一些很酷的东西并寻求系统性的支持，你应该听听这一集！

网站: https://alphafinance.io/

推特: @AlphaFinanceLab

更多信息，请移步官网https://multicoin.capital/zh

重要声明：Mable Jiang或嘉宾在播客中的观点仅代表他们的个人看法，并不代表Multicoin Capital官方的观点。此播客仅用于提供信息，不作为投资参考。Multicoin Capital有时可能会在此节目中讨论的某些代币或公司中持有头寸。

EP.28 [EN] - TN Lee: An DeFi Veteran on Pendle's New Quest of Yield Tokenization / 一位 DeFi 老兵谈Pendle的收益通证化

mable@multicoin.capital (Mable Jiang, TN Lee) — Tue, 8 Jun 2021 10:00:08 +0000

In light of the upcoming mainnet launch of Pendle Finance, TN sat down with me to discuss how Pendle Finance worked, and why the market would need interest rate derivatives product like Pendle. He covered his view of the trending direction in the DeFi space, and how Pendle's long term vision fits into that. TN also shared with us his take-away as a serial entrepreneur, and his favorite crypto writer. He provided some truthful advice to the new DeFi founders - hope they are helpful to some of the listeners!

Twitter: @pendle_fi

Website: https://pendle.finance/

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

鉴于Pendle Finance 的主网即将上线，TN 与我坐下来讨论 Pendle Finance 是如何运作的，以及为什么市场需要像 Pendle 这样的利率衍生产品。他谈到了他对 DeFi 领域趋势方向的看法，以及 Pendle 的长期愿景如何与这些趋势相关。 TN 还与我们分享了他作为连续创业者的一些思考，以及他最喜欢的加密领域写作者。他为新的 DeFi 创始人提供了一些诚恳的建议 —— 希望对一些听众有所帮助！

推特: @pendle_fi

网站: https://pendle.finance/

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EP.27 [CN] - 刘杰 Jie Liu: MCDEX的探索与DeFi更广阔的机会 / On MCDEX's Journey and the Massive Opportunities in DeFi

mable@multicoin.capital (Mable Jiang, Jie Liu) — Fri, 28 May 2021 10:12:38 +0000

刘杰是MCDEX的创始人。在过去的一年中，MCDEX一直在探索去中心化永续合约领域，并将团队探索中的心得应用到MCDEX的迭代中。在本集中，我们讨论了这些迭代的细节以及设计空间中的有意取舍。

MCDEX已经花费了相当多的时间来研究以太坊上所有可用的第2层选项——在这里可以听听在DeFi建设者的视角下对二层网络的选择。我们还讨论了中国团队在搭建Web3应用方面的优劣势，以及在DeFi未来的一些机会。

推特：@LiuJie1985 / @MonteCarloDEX

MCDEX网站：https://mcdex.io/

更多信息，请移步官网https://multicoin.capital/zh

Jie Liu is the founder of MCDEX. During the past year, MCDEX has been exploring the space of decentralized Bitmex, and applied its take-aways in the evolution of MCDEX. In this episode we chatted about the details of these iterations and the intentional trade-offs in the design space.

MCDEX has spent quite some time in reviewing all the available Layer 2 options on Ethereum - it's interesting to hear the perspective of a DeFi builder in the team's choice. We also chatted about the edges and disadvantages of Chinese teams in building Web3 applications, and some of the opportunities further down the road in DeFi.

Twitter：@LiuJie1985 / @MonteCarloDEX

MCDEX Website：https://mcdex.io/

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

EP.26 [CN] - 匹马 Pima: 肯定牛跨越周期的长期思路 / On Continue Capital's Cross-cycle Long Term Strategy

mable@multicoin.capital (Pima, Mable Jiang) — Thu, 20 May 2021 01:45:08 +0000

这个有趣的聊天发生在一个特殊的日子（2021年5月19日），当天的市场并不像这个聊天本身那样冷静，而我想这很好地提醒了我们到底是为什么选择长期在这个行业里。

我们讨论了如何考虑市场规模以及匹马相信的长期趋势。聊天中涉及了几个类别定义项目，以及匹马对于这些项目的投资主题，例如Dfinity，Polkadot和Uniswap。

偶尔进行一次线下节目总是很有趣的！

推特: @LeePima

微博：匹马黑貂裘Continue

肯定牛资本网站: https://continue.capital/

更多信息，请移步官网https://multicoin.capital/zh

It is particularly meaningful that this interesting chat happened on a special day (May 19, 2021) where the market wasn't as cool as the chat itself, as it is a good reminder of why we are in this for the long term.

We talked about market sizing and the long term trends that Pima believed in. The chat touched upon a few category-defining projects, and Pima's theses for these projects, such as Dfinity, Polkadot, and Uniswap.

It was always fun to do an offline episode once in a while!

Twitter: @LeePima

Weibo：匹马黑貂裘Continue

Continue Capital's Website: https://continue.capital/

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

EP.25 [CN] - David: 谈谈新世代矿工挖矿二三事 / How the New-gen Mining Works

mable@multicoin.capital (Mable Jiang, David) — Sun, 16 May 2021 06:41:37 +0000

挖矿是一个加密货币行业中通常被公众所忽视的赛道。但是，由于传统投资者能够根据第一性原理理解挖矿的运作原理，因此它也很容易获得机构资金。今天，我与一个在挖矿中利用金融工具进行风险对冲的新一代矿工David坐下来聊了聊。他谈到了该行业在过去几年中的发展情况，以及新资金（机构和散户）如何考虑采矿。这一集充满干货，不容错过。

更多信息，请移步官网https://multicoin.capital/zh

Mining is an industry in crypto that is often neglected by public attention. Yet, it easily captures institutional money as the traditional investors are able to grasp how mining works based on the first principle. Today I sat down with David, a new-gen miner that take advantage of financial instruments during the mining process for risk hedging. He talked about how the industry evolved in the past few years, and how the new money (both institutional and retail) is thinking about mining. This episode is full of insights that you don't want to miss.

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

EP.24 [EN] - Ben&Jae: On Jenny DAO and the Game Theory in the NFT Fractionalization Protocols / 聊聊Jenny DAO 与NFT碎片化协议中的博弈

mable@multicoin.capital (Mable Jiang, Jae, Ben) — Wed, 12 May 2021 03:49:35 +0000

Ben and Jae have been in the space for a while and both had immense experience prior to initiating the idea of JennyDAO. Today we are excited to have them sit down with us to share their view about the space of NFT fractionalization.

We started the discussion with what JennyDAO is, and why they chose to build on Unicly. We continued on comparing all the other options of fractionalization protocols on the market, and how they differ from each other. We went into details to discuss about the idea of "Patronage as an asset class", and how curators get rewarded in the space. We ended the discussion with them sharing their long term vision for the NFT space. There was also a special guest joined in the middle of the podcast - listen in and find out more!

“Patronage as an asset class": https://blog.simondlr.com/posts/patronage-as-an-asset-class

This Artwork is Always on Sale: https://thisartworkisalwaysonsale.com/

Twitter: @JennyMetaverse

Website: https://jennynft.io/

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

Ben和Jae在这个行业有相当一段时间了，在提出JennyDAO的想法之前，他们都有着丰富的经验。今天，我们很高兴让他们与我们坐下来分享他们对NFT碎片化协议的看法。

我们从JennyDAO是什么，以及他们为什么选择在Unicly上搭建开始讨论。我们比较了市场上所有其他的碎片化协议选项，以及每一种协议之间的区别。我们详细讨论了“赞助人作为一种资产类别”的概念，和资产组合策划人（curator）获得策划奖励的问题。在最后，他们分享了他们对NFT赛道的长期愿景。在播客的中间还有一位神秘嘉宾加入，可以听听看。

“Patronage as an asset class": https://blog.simondlr.com/posts/patronage-as-an-asset-class

This Artwork is Always on Sale: https://thisartworkisalwaysonsale.com/

推特: @JennyMetaverse

网站: https://jennynft.io/

EP.23 [CN] - Pxstar：漫谈泛金融化、媒体与治理 / On Pan-financialization, Media and Governance

mable@multicoin.capital (Pxstar, Mable Jiang) — Sun, 25 Apr 2021 14:18:13 +0000

在此集中，Pxstar与我们分享了他为什么创办Blockbeats，以及他对Blockbeats的定位。我们花了一些时间讨论泛金融化的全球趋势（即万事万物金融化）以及他对这种现象的看法。我们还讨论了中心化管理相比与去中心化组织的治理。最后，他对媒体在本行业的发展趋势提出了自己的看法。

我一直很喜欢与Pxstar的长谈，能获得很多启发。希望你也喜欢。

（注：律动正在招人！）

推特: @BlockBeatsChina

微博： @区块律动BlockBeats

网站：www.theblockbeats.com

更多信息，请移步官网https://multicoin.capital/zh

In this episode, Pxstar shared with us why he started Blockbeats, and what he envisioned Blockbeats to be. We spent some time to talk about the global trend of pan-financialization (i.e. everything becomes financial) and his view on such phenomena. We also talked about the centralized management versus DAO governance. At the end, he pointed out his view on the development trend of media in this industry.

I always enjoy my long conversation with Pxstar. A lot of inspirations. Hope you do too.

(p.s.: Blockbeats is hiring!)

Twitter: @BlockBeatsChina

Weibo：@区块律动BlockBeats

Website: www.theblockbeats.com

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

EP.22 [CN] - Wayne Zhao：研究机构TokenInsight 的洞见与视角 / TokenInsight's insights and lenses of research

mable@multicoin.capital (Wayne Zhao, Mable Jiang) — Tue, 20 Apr 2021 09:46:01 +0000

在这一集中，Wayne分享了他在本行业运营一家研究机构的思考和愿景。他对“板块轮动”背后的力量和我们今天行业所处的发展阶段发表了看法。 Wayne还讨论了TokenInsight的研究人员如何评估不同的公链生态系统、去中心化金融和中心化交易所。

您还将听到Wayne分享他个人较为喜爱的项目，以及一些值得关注的研究机构写的文章和报告。

推特: @TokenInsight

微博： @TokenInsight

网站：www.tokeninsight.com

更多信息，请移步官网https://multicoin.capital/zh

In this episode, Wayne talked about his vision on running a research firm in the industry. He shared his view on the force behind the "sector rotation" and the development phase that we are at today. Wayne also discussed specifically on how the researchers at TokenInsight evaluate different layer 1 ecosystems, DeFi and centralized exchanges.

You'll also hear Wayne's personal picks on some of the projects he likes. At the end, Wayne recommended out a few institutions of which the research and writings are worthwhile following.

Twitter: @TokenInsight

Weibo：@TokenInsight

Website: www.tokeninsight.com

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

EP.21 [CN] - 宿冶：乘区块方舟航行于长牛 / On how BlockArk Navigates in a Long Bull Cycle

mable@multicoin.capital (Mable Jiang, Allen Su) — Mon, 12 Apr 2021 06:04:38 +0000

在本集中，宿冶首先讨论了BlockArk最近关注的领域。然后，他展开了BlockArk关于我们目前处于长期牛市中的观点。他从外部刺激（政策、宏观经济条件等）和当前技术发展阶段的角度解释了他们的观点。最后，我们还能听到他对加密世界有趣的一些预测。

推特: @Block_Ark

微博： @BlockArk区块方舟

网站：blockark.io

更多信息，请移步官网https://multicoin.capital/zh

In this episode, Allen Su first discussed the sectors BlockArk is recently excited about. He then went into unpacking BlockArk's view that we are currently in a long term bull market. He explained their thesis from the angle of the external stimulus (policy, macroeconomic environment, etc.,) and the current phase of the technology advancement. At the end, it was fun to hear some of his prediction about the crypto space.

Twitter: @Block_Ark

Weibo：@BlockArk区块方舟

Website: blockark.io

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

EP.20 [CN] - DT：Decred的混合共识与集体智慧 / On Decred‘s Hybrid Consensus and Collective Wisdom

mable@multicoin.capital (Mable Jiang, DT) — Sat, 3 Apr 2021 06:27:43 +0000

在本集中，DT向我们介绍了为什么他认为混合共识（POS+POW）是更理想的方法。

DT谈到了比特币（及其社区）中的一些问题，以及Decred团队试图解决这些问题的方法。他还谈到了Decred如何尝试通过POS参与，为Decred社区吸引更多积极的贡献者。

这次谈话充分解释了什么是Decred核心贡献者所相信的“集体智慧”。它指出了一种更自然的社区增长方法，一种与如今更为常见的（或者说许多智能合约平台采用的社区增长方法）完全不同的方式。

推特: @decredproject（英文社区）、@DecredCN（中文社区）

微博：@DecredProject

网站：https://decred.org/

更多信息，请移步官网https://multicoin.capital/zh

In this episode, DT walked us through why he considered the hybrid consensus is the more ideal approach.

Specifically, DT talked about some of the problems in Bitcoin (and its community) and how the Decred team attempted to solve them. He also touched upon how Decred tried to attract more active contribution to the Decred community via the POS participation.

This conversation elaborates a lot about what the Decred core contributors believe to be the "collective wisdom". It points out a more natural approach of community growth, one that is quite different from what we are used to (or the approach that many smart contract platforms adopt) these days.

Twitter: @decredproject（English）、@DecredCN（Chinese）

Weibo：@DecredProject

Website：https://decred.org/

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

EP.19 [CN] - Mindao Yang：一位加密投资老兵的DeFi创业之路 / A Crypto Investment Veteran's DeFi Entrepreneurship

mable@multicoin.capital (Mable Jiang, Mindao Yang) — Wed, 31 Mar 2021 09:46:23 +0000

自从参与以太坊的公募以来，杨民道在他的加密通证投资职业生涯中已经做了许多成功的投资。他积累了许多关于“什么能带来成功的加密项目”的见解。

凭借在传统金融行业的丰富经验，杨民道建构了他关于DeFi架构的世界观。在本集播客中，他特别分享了他对金融的理解是如何指导dForce的路线图的，以及dForce如何持续致力于提高不同DeFi协议之间的扩展性和资本效率。

您还将听到民道关于加密货币投资的一些观点，其中一些是基于第一性原理的有趣观点。

推特: @mindaoyang

网站：https://dforce.network

更多信息，请移步官网https://multicoin.capital/zh

Mindao, since his participation in the public sales of Ethereum, has done many successful investment during his crypto investment career. He has accumulated a lot of insights about "what leads to a successful crypto project".

With his profound experience in traditional finance industry, Mindao constructed his world view about the architecture of DeFi. In this episode he specifically shared how his understanding of finance guided the roadmap of dForce, and how dForce continuously aims to improve the scalability and capital efficiency across different DeFi protocols.

You'll also be hearing some of Mindao's view on crypto investments, some of which are interesting views based on first principles.

Twitter: @mindaoyang

Website：https://dforce.network

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

EP.18 [CN] - Vincent Niu: NFT的前世今生 / The Past, Present, and Future of NFT

mable@multicoin.capital (Mable Jiang, Vincent Niu) — Sun, 21 Mar 2021 13:24:31 +0000

我们以Vincent玩加密猫的亲身经历展开了这一集的探讨，并回顾了DApp和NFT在2018年和2019年的发展。我们谈到了一些明星项目，以及为什么迄今为止其中一项目取得了一定成功。

紧接着我们讨论了NFT所代表的价值——许多人对这个问题感到好奇，以及NFT平台/市场的潜在发展。然后，我们探讨了这些日子一些人群购买社交通证或背后有NFT价值支撑的通证背后的心理。最后，Vincent对我们的未来给出了一些非常有趣的预测。如果您想知道它们是什么，您完全应当收听这一集！

推特: @dapp_review

Medium：@vincentniu

微信公众号：dappreview

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We kicked off this episode with Vincent's personal experience of playing cryptokitties, and reviewed the development of DApps and NFTs in 2018 and 2019. We talked about a few star projects, and why some of them were successful up till today.

We then chatted about the value the NFT represents - a question many people are curious about, followed by the discussion of the potential evolvement NFT platforms / marketplaces. We then switched gears to probe the psychology behind certain people buying social tokens / or NFT-backed tokens these days. At the end, Vincent gave some very interesting predictions about our future. If you want to know what they are, you should totally tune in!

Twitter: @dapp_review

Medium：@vincentniu

Wechat Official Account：dappreview

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

EP.17 [CN] - Maple Leaf Capital: 价值网络与Web 3.0的新范式 / The Valuenet and the New Paradigm in Web 3.0

mable@multicoin.capital (Maple Leaf Capital, Mable Jiang) — Sun, 14 Mar 2021 01:51:57 +0000

枫叶资本是Twitter上的一个匿名帐户。该帐户经常提出有关Web 3.0和去中心化金融的有趣观点和全面研究。在许多早期项目中，枫叶资本还扮演着种子投资人和社区思想领袖的角色。

今天，我们坐下来谈论许多有趣的话题，包括他的Web 3.0研究论文中的价值网络概念、一些他有较强观点的项目、关于加密投资与传统投资的比较以及加密投资者的作用、以及社会组织和信息价值存储的潜在范式转移。

一如既往，我非常享受我们的谈话。大家也来听听，希望你们喜欢！

推特: @MapleLeafCap

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Maple Leaf Capital is a pseudo-anonymous account on Twitter. The account often presents interesting views and comprehensive research on Web 3.0 and decentralized finance. In many early stage projects, Maple Leaf Capital also plays a crucial role as a seed investor and community thought leader.

Today we sat down to talk about a bunch of interesting topics, including the concept of valuenet in his Web 3.0 research paper, the projects that he has developed strong thesis about, the comparison of crypto investment versus traditional investment and the role of crypto investors, and the potential paradigm shift of social organizations and information value storage.

I truly enjoyed our conversation, as I always did. Tune in and hope you all do as well!

Twitter: @MapleLeafCap

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

EP.16 [CN] - Ling Zhang: 币安闪电扩张的版图 / Binance's Blitzcaling Roadmap

mable@multicoin.capital (Ling Zhang, Mable Jiang) — Tue, 2 Mar 2021 14:00:00 +0000

今天，我与Binance投资副总裁Ling Zhang一起讨论了Binance在过去12个月中所做的工作。

介绍了她的背景后，Ling带领我们了解了币安的历史以及不同产品随时间演变的方式。然后，她谈到了币安在过去一年中主要的合并和收购以及一些投资。她还为听众解释了他们围绕币安智能链的策略。最后，我们讨论了他们最近宣布的一项投资。

快来听听！

推特: @lingzh1220

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Today I sat down with Ling Zhang, the Vice President of Binance Investment, to talk about the work Binance had been doing over the past 12 months.

After introducing her background, Ling walked us through the history of Binance, and how different products evolved over time. Then she talked about the major mergers and acquisitions, as well as some investment they made in the past year. She also broken down their strategy around Binance Smart Chain for our listeners. Towards the end, we discussed an investment that they recently announced.

Come and listen in!

Twitter: @lingzh1220

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

EP.15 [EN] - Jason Choi: How Spartan Group Pioneer in DeFi Investing / Spartan Group 是如何引领DeFi 投资的

mable@multicoin.capital (Jason Choi, Mable Jiang) — Sun, 28 Feb 2021 06:14:59 +0000

Spartan Group is an Asia-based leading crypto investment firm. In light of the launch of Spartan Group's new DeFi VC fund, Jason Choi, GP at Spartan Group, joined this episode and shared with us the history, mission and vision of Spartan Group.

Jason further explained some of Spartan's investment selection process and criteria, and why they were bullish on some of their portfolio, including Alpha, Synthetix, and Sushi. Later in the episode, he discussed his view in multi-chain DeFi, as well as the "next big things" - the other upcoming necessary building blocks - in DeFi.

Twitter: @mrjasonchoi

Spartan Group Website: http://spartangroup.io/

Blockcrunch Podcast's Twitter: @theBlockcrunch

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

Spartan Group是一家亚洲领先的虚拟资产投资公司。鉴于Spartan Group的新DeFi VC基金的成立，Spartan Group的合伙人 Jason Choi 参与了这一期节目的录制，与我们分享了Spartan Group的历史，使命和愿景。

Jason进一步解释了Spartan的一些投资选择过程和标准，以及为什么他们看好他们的某些投资组合，包括Alpha，Synthetix和Sushi。在本集的稍后部分，他讨论了他在多链DeFi中的观点以及DeFi中的“下一个重要里程碑”- DeFi中未来的其他必要构建基块。

推特: @mrjasonchoi

Spartan Group 网站: http://spartangroup.io/

Blockcrunch 播客推特账户: @theBlockcrunch

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EP.14 [CN] - Hanwen Cheng & John Wu: 从开发者的角度聊聊波卡与Litentry / A Conversation on Polkadot and Litentry from Developers' views

mable@multicoin.capital (John Wu, Hanwen Cheng, Mable Jiang) — Sat, 20 Feb 2021 10:26:00 +0000

这是我在农历牛年录制的第一集播客。

在这一集中，我与翰文和John聊了聊他们对Cosmos和Polkadot生态系统的看法，以及他们认为对于开发人员选择生态系统较为重要的因素。此外，我们还讨论了Litentry在他们心目中的意义，以及做开发者和带领团队角色之间体验的不同。

最后，出于好奇，我还问了他们一个问题：他们会选择长期居住和工作在哪个城市。听听这一集，自己找出答案吧！

关于 Litentry: Litentry是基于多网络的去中心化身份聚合协议，拥有去中心化身份（DID）索引机制和基于Substrate的信用计算网络。Litentry的目标是帮助去中心化身份聚合、验证和信用计算。

网址: https://www.litentry.com/

推特: https://twitter.com/litentry

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This is the first episode I recorded in Lunar New Year of Ox.
In this episode, I chatted with Hanwen and John about how they think of Cosmos versus Polkadot ecosystem, and what they think is important for developers to choose an ecosystem over another. We also discussed what Litentry means to each of them, and what the differences are to be a developer versus a team leader.

Out of curiosity, I also asked them the question that which city they would choose to live and work for the long term. Listen to this episode and find out the answers yourself!

About Litentry: Litentry is a Decentralized Identity Aggregation protocol across multiple networks, featuring a DID indexing mechanism and a Substrate-based credit computation network. The protocol provides a decentralized, interoperable identity aggregation service that mitigates the difficulty of resolving agnostic DID mechanisms.

Website: https://www.litentry.com/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/litentry

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EP.13 [CN] - 与真本聪社区大麦老师的一次炉边谈话 / A Fireside Chat with Damai @ RealSatoshi

mable@multicoin.capital (Damai, Mable Jiang) — Tue, 2 Feb 2021 08:20:44 +0000

大麦老师是真本聪社区的联合创始人之一。我们成为朋友已有一段时间了，常常喜欢交换看法并相互挑战彼此的观点。今天，我录下了这一集播客，就像我们平时聊天一样。

我们当然谈论了我们最喜欢的项目之一，Thorchain（雷神链）。大麦老师还表达了他对项目和去中心化网络持有的相对纯粹主义者/理想主义者的观点。我在此对于细节不加赘述，希望听众们可以有机会自己听一听这一期。

希望您喜欢这一集！

网址：https://realsatoshi.net/

微信公众号：真本聪RealSatoshi

推特: @BiggerDump

微博：@区块链大麦

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Damai is one of the co-founders of the RealSatoshi Community. We have been friends for some time now, and always like to exchange thoughts on things and challenge each other. Today, I recorded this episode just as how we chatted usually.

We of course talked about one of our mutually favorite projects, Thorchain. Damai also shed some light on his purist / idealist view on projects and decentralized networks. I would like to let our audience listen to this episode without describing too much detail here.

Hope you enjoy the episode!

Website：https://realsatoshi.net/

WeChat Official Account：真本聪RealSatoshi

Twitter: @BiggerDump

Weibo: ：@区块链大麦

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EP.12 [CN] - 与缺氧老师聊聊DeFi估值之差异 / Discussing the Valuation Differences in DeFi with Yan Cai

mable@multicoin.capital (Yan Cai, Mable Jiang) — Wed, 27 Jan 2021 11:13:27 +0000

近日，NGC董事总经理蔡彦（缺氧老师）发表了《DeFi 估值之差异：叙事和数据哪个更重要？》一文。里面提出了将叙事和数据作为横轴纵轴，区分项目市值跃升的过程的思维框架（详见下文链接中图示）。我们将一些实例，例如MPH88，SUSHI和ALPHA，放在该框架中进行了探讨。我们还谈到了最近的COVER事件（COVER是缺氧老师做了比较深入研究的一个保险项目）。除此之外，缺氧老师分享了一些她喜欢在评估和项目时看待的指标，并解释了她自己的投资策略和风格。总的来说这期播客非常有趣，我很享受这个聊天！

NGC 网站: https://www.ngc.fund/https://www.ngc.fund/

《探索DeFi 估值之差异：叙事和数据哪个更重要？》：https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/dDuXufZdpkDF-U_0QIkg-A

《从保险协议Cover再思考：今天的DeFi 世界究竟需要什么》：https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/Fubc2uREF70rhDihqzbphQ

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Yan Cai, Managing Director at NGC recently wrote an article about examining the growth of DeFi projects' market cap via a frame work of "narrative" and "data". We fitted a few examples, such as MPH88, SUSHI, and ALPHA, into the framework. We also talked about the recent incident of COVER, an insurance project that Yan had done a lot of research on. In addition, Yan shared a few metrics she liked to look at when evaluating and project, and explained her investment strategy and style. Over all it was a very fun chat - I enjoyed it a lot!

NGC Website: https://www.ngc.fund/https://www.ngc.fund/

《Exploring the Market Cap of DeFi Projects: Which Criteria Matters More - Narrative or Data?》：https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/dDuXufZdpkDF-U_0QIkg-A

《On Cover Protocol: What does the DeFi world today need?》：https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/Fubc2uREF70rhDihqzbphQ

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EP.11 [EN] 0xMaki - Sushiswap's Glory Road / 寿司的光荣之路

mable@multicoin.capital (0xMaki, Mable Jiang) — Tue, 19 Jan 2021 08:54:57 +0000

Sushiswap started as a fork of Uniswap at the end of August 2020. Yet today it grew into an empire of AMM where the contributors of Sushi added a bunch of supporting features and protocols into this multi-functional AMM suite. In light of the upcoming launching event of BentoBox, I was thrilled to record this podcast with 0xMaki.

We talked about the progress of Onsen, Bentobox, and other items being mentioned in Sushiswap's 2021 Roadmap. We also touched upon their collaboration with the Yearn community. Maki shared some of his opinions about some cross-chain efforts they engaged, and his views on the choices of Layer 2s. We also discussed the value accruals to the Sushi token.

Listeners would also learn the upsides and some of the challenges the Sushi core team encountered operating in a decentralized way. At the end, you'll find out Maki's personal choice of Sushi!

Twitter：@0xMaki

Sushiswap：https://sushiswap.fi/
2021 Roadmap: https://sushiswapchef.medium.com/2021-3e1f45cf86a2

Onsen: https://sushiswap.fi/onsen

BentoBox: https://boringcrypto.medium.com/bentobox-to-launch-and-beyond-d2d5dc2350bd

Mirin: https://medium.com/levx-app/sushi-protocol-v3-proposal-mirin-d42061a5fa3a

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

Sushiswap在2020年8月底分叉了Uniswap。如今，它发展成为AMM的帝国，Sushi的贡献者在此多功能AMM套件中添加了许多支持功能和协议。鉴于即将到来的BentoBox启动活动，我很高兴与0xMaki录制此播客。

本播客中我们讨论了温泉（Onsen）、Bentobox、以及Sushiswap的2021年路线图中提到的其他发展计划，以及它们与Yearn社区的合作。 Maki也分享了他对他们开展的一些跨链工作的看法，以及对二层网络的选择的看法。我们还讨论了Sushi代币的价值捕获。

听众们还将了解Sushi核心团队以去中心化方式运营的优势和挑战。最后的彩蛋：您可以期待下Maki个人的寿司选择！

推特：@0xMaki

寿司swap：https://sushiswap.fi/
2021 路线图: https://sushiswapchef.medium.com/2021-3e1f45cf86a2

温泉（Onsen）: https://sushiswap.fi/onsen

便当盒（BentoBox）: https://boringcrypto.medium.com/bentobox-to-launch-and-beyond-d2d5dc2350bd

Mirin: https://medium.com/levx-app/sushi-protocol-v3-proposal-mirin-d42061a5fa3a

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EP.10 [CN] Haze - 谈派网网格机器人工具与交易心得 / On Pionex's Grid Trading Bots and Arts of Trading

mable@multicoin.capital (Haze, Mable Jiang) — Fri, 15 Jan 2021 10:25:53 +0000

派网是一家由行情追踪软件币优孵化的券商，主打网格交易机器人。

在这一集里我和币优的运营负责人Haze聊了聊派网主打的网格交易机器人，每一种机器人的使用场景，包括无限网格、杠杆网格、借贷网格、反向网格、智能追踪机器人等。我们回顾了过去一年派网的成绩，并展望了2021年他们的计划。

我们还聊了Haze最喜欢的DeFi项目和他平时的交易心得。最后，他解释了为什么他认为每个人都需要一个比特币天地单。

派网网址：https://www.pionex.cc/

推特：@pionex_com

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Incubated by Bituniverse, a portfolio tracking application, Pionex is a brokerage that specializes in automated grid trading products.

In this episode, Haze, the Head of Operation at Bituniverse, and I talked about their grid trading product suite. He introduced how it works for each grid trading product, including infinite grid, leverage grid, borrowing grid, reversed grid, and tracking bots. We reviewed how Pionex did in the past year, and talked about their plan in 2021.

We also talked about Haze's favourite DeFi products and his arts of trading. At the end, he explained why everyone needs a "top-bottom Bitcoin grid trading" transaction.

Website：https://www.pionex.cc/

Twitter：@pionex_com

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

EP.9 [CN] 曹寅 Armand Cao - 关于波卡与其他公链、二层网络、去中心化金融与NFT / On Polkadot & Other L1s, L2s, DeFi and NFT

mable@multicoin.capital (Armand Cao, Mable Jiang) — Sat, 9 Jan 2021 03:43:30 +0000

曹寅是数字文艺复兴基金会的董事总经理。

他深入参与了Polkadot和Near生态系统。他一直在战略支持在Polkadot之上构建的项目，例如Acala和Bifrost。他还一直积极参与YFII等DeFi项目的治理。

曹寅还是著名的NFT艺术收藏家。他经常通过艺术评论家从收藏家的角度分享自己的观点。

本对话着重讨论了波卡、二层网络、其他一层网络、算法稳定币和NFT。

数字文艺复兴基金会网址：http://drf.ee/

推特: @CaoArmand

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Armand Cao is the Managing Director of Digital Renaissance Foundation.

He is deeply involved in the Polkadot and the Near ecosystem; he has strategically been supporting projects built on top of Polkadot, such as Acala and Bifrost. He has also been actively participating the governance of DeFi projects like YFII.

Armand is also an reknown NFT art collector. He often shares his view from a collector's perspective via art critics.

This conversation particularly touches upon Polkadot, L2s, other L1s, algorithmic stablecoins, and NFTs.

Digital Renaissance Foundation Website：http://drf.ee/

Twitter: @CaoArmand

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

EP.8 [CN] 索老头 Soros - 真本聪社区的2020阶段盘点 / the 2020 Summary for the RealSatoshi Community

mable@multicoin.capital (Soros, RealSatoshi, Mable Jiang) — Wed, 30 Dec 2020 14:52:50 +0000

2020年里，许多舆论领袖在社交媒体（推特和微信）上获得瞩目。这些人中的一些对加密货币原生社区的积极影响是极其深远的 —— 他们做了很好的工作，对更多的人进行了关于去中心化金融和有趣的新兴趋势的普及教育。

伍拾壹说希望邀请更多的社区意见领袖给听众们带来不一样的声音，索老头就是其中之一。在这一集中，索老头谈到了他的投资风格，他在2020年从所有交易和投资中获得的心得，以及他对真本聪社区运营模式的不断探索。这是一场关于2020年真本聪的旅程的有趣的聊天。

网址：https://realsatoshi.net/

微信公众号：真本聪RealSatoshi

推特: @realsatoshinet

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In 2020, we've seen the surfacing of many opinion leaders or influencers on social media (Twitter and WeChat). The positive impact of some of these people to the crypto native community is unfathomable - they've also done a good job educating the larger crowd about decentralized finance and all the interesting emerging stuffs in crypto.

There are a few community leaders in China that 51% is keen to invite, and Soros being one of them. In this episode, Soros talked about his investment style, his takeaway from all the trades and investments in 2020, and his continuous exploration of business model of running a community. It was a fun chat to be able to learn about RealSatoshi's ride in 2020!

Website：https://realsatoshi.net/

WeChat Official Account：真本聪RealSatoshi

Twitter: @realsatoshinet

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

EP.7 [CN] Bo Dong & Ricky Li - 当金融服务商Altonomy遇上去中心化金融 / When the CeFi Institution Altonomy Meets Defi

mable@multicoin.capital (Ricky Li, Bo Dong, Mable Jiang) — Sun, 20 Dec 2020 11:03:14 +0000

这集节目邀请了Altonomy的5位联合创始人中的Bo Dong和Ricky Li参加。 Altonomy是一家加密货币和数字资产的交易、咨询和资产管理公司。该公司的业务范围包括OTC交易和执行服务，流动性管理和咨询，以及机构云挖矿服务。

并非所有CeFi机构都能从一开始就发现DeFi的启动。然而，正如Altonomy 的首席执行官Bo Dong所说，“ Altonomy是深深扎根于加密原生社区的加密金融服务提供商”，Altonomy抓住了整个Defi浪潮。该公司还将去中心化金融研究作为其核心战略的一部分，并一直积极以各种方式参与早期DeFi项目。

我们还讨论了当前基础架构和现有Defi协议的一些瓶颈。基于他们以前作为专业大宗商品交易员的经验，两位嘉宾也分享了他们对加密原生金融，包括中心化交易所和券商等，未来的前景和期望。

随着DeFi变得越来越专业化，这一集的讨论是具有前瞻性和启发性的。

Altonomy 官网: https://www.altonomy.com/

Altonomy的推特: https://twitter.com/altonomy

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This episode featured 2 of the 5 co-founders of Altonomy, Bo Dong and Ricky Li. Altonomy is a trading, advisory and asset management firm specializing in cryptocurrency and digital assets. The company's business lines include OTC trading and execution services, liquidity management and advisory, as well as institutional cloud mining services.

Not all the CeFi institutions were able to catch DeFi from the beginning. Yet, as the CEO of Altonomy Bo Dong put it, "Altonomy is a crypto financial service provider that is deeply rooted in the crypto native community", Altonomy was able to capture the whole wave of Defi. The company also takes the research of decentralized finance as part of its core strategy, and has been actively participate in all the early stage DeFi projects.

We also got to discuss some of the bottlenecks of the current infrastructure and the existing Defi protocols. The two guests, based on their former experience as professional commodities traders, shared their prospects and expectations about the future of crypto native finance, including their views on the existing exchanges and prime brokerages.

As DeFi becomes more and more professionalized, this episode of discussion is a forward-looking and inspirational one.

Altonomy's Website: https://www.altonomy.com/

Altonomy's twitter account: https://twitter.com/altonomy

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

EP.6 [CN] Constance Kang (康佑芊) - 进击的FTX / The Prevailing FTX

mable@multicoin.capital (Mable Jiang, Multicoin Capital, Constance Kang, FTX) — Thu, 10 Dec 2020 16:38:52 +0000

FTX今年取得了巨大成就，而他们才在1.5年前开始他们的创业旅程。从2020年头开始，我们强有力地结束了股权融资，并开始在全球不同地区积极扩张。然而，这是一个只有约50人的团队。

在本集中，FTX的首席运营官Constance Kang（康佑芊）讨论了她所理解的FTX的核心文化，以及团队每个人如何围绕这些价值观和原则开展工作。她还与我们分享了他们如何抓住各种市场机会，取得了今天的成就。听众也将了解FTX的面对散户和面对机构的不同策略。

我们也讨论了FTX在过去几个月中进行的一些收购/投资，以及为什么她认为这些是推动大规模采用的绝佳机会。当然，我们也谈到了由核心FTX团队发起和支持的去中心化交易所Serum的最新更新。

这是一场精彩的谈话，希望你也能喜欢。

FTX官网：https://ftx.com/

FTX官方推特：https://twitter.com/FTX_Official

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FTX has achieved a ton this year, and they only started their business 1.5 years ago. They started the year of 2020 by closing the equity financing round strongly and began to expand aggressively in different regions around the world, despite it was only a team with ~50 people.

In this episode, the COO of FTX, Constance Kang, discussed how she understood the core culture of FTX, and how everyone operated around those values and principles. She also shared with us how they were able to capture the various market opportunities, and got to where they were today. The listeners would get to learn about FTX's strategies on retails and institutions.

We got to discuss some of the acquisition / investments they made over the past few months, and why she believed those to be amazing opportunities to drive mass adoption. Of course, we also talked about the recent update of Serum, the decentralized exchange initiated and supported by the core FTX team.

It was a spectacular conversation. I enjoyed it a lot. Hope you do too.

FTX Website：https://ftx.com/

FTX Official Twitter：https://twitter.com/FTX_Official

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

EP.5 [CN] Yenwen Feng（冯彦文）- 当AMM遇到去中心化永续合约：永续协议 / When AMM Meets Decentralized Bitmex: Perpetual Protocol

mable@multicoin.capital (Mable Jiang, Yenwen Feng, Multicoin Capital) — Tue, 1 Dec 2020 15:43:09 +0000

还有两周就是永续协议（https://perp.fi/ ）主网上线的日子了，因此这一集里我们邀请到永续协议的创始人冯彦文与听众见面。

在本集，我们首先聊了彦文的创业简史——他为什么想做去中心化永续合约，以及他设计的灵感。我们深入探讨了永续协议的产品设计（尤其是它的虚拟自动化做市商部分）。通过讨论永续协议对二层网络的选择，彦文也表达了他对于现阶段以太坊二层网络的一些有趣思考。

我们还回顾了永续合约广受好评的在Balancer Liquidity Bootstrapping Pool上的公开募资，和当时一些其他的募资选项的对比。最后彦文与我们分享了台湾去中心化金融项目和以太坊社区的情况，并讨论了他认为东方项目在运营时遇到的一些瓶颈和他认为的问题所在。

总体而言，是非常有意思的一期讨论！

本集中提到的相关链接：

永续协议 Discord 频道：https://discord.com/channels/687397941383659579/739471229706043478

永续协议推特: https://twitter.com/perpprotocol

冯彦文推特： https://twitter.com/tempofeng
Epic Center EP. 350: Balancer - The Automated Market Maker Protocol for Programmable Liquidity https://epicenter.tv/episodes/350/

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As the mainnet of Perpetual Protocol (https://perp.fi/) is going live in two weeks, we invited Yenwen Feng, the founder of Perpetual Protocol to be on this episode.

In this episode, we first talked about Yenwen's history as a serial entrepreneur. We discussed why he wanted to work on decentralized perpetual swap product, and how he got inspiration of the product design. We dived deep into the product design of the perpetual protocol, especially on its virtual automated market maker part.

In our discussion on their choice of Ethereum Layer 2 scaling solution, Yenwen expressed his interesting thoughts about the L2 space. We also reviewed Perp's widely applauded public sales via the Balancer Liquidity Bootstrapping Pool (LBP), as he compared that choice with some other available options at the time. At the end, Yenwen shared about the Defi and the ETH community in Taiwan, and discussed some of the bottlenecks he perceived among the projects in the east.

Overall, this was a very interesting discussion!

Other relevant links in this episodes:
Epic Center EP. 350: Balancer - The Automated Market Maker Protocol for Programmable Liquidity https://epicenter.tv/episodes/350/

Perpetual Protocol Official Discord Channel: https://discord.com/channels/687397941383659579/739471229706043478

Perpetual Protocol's Official Twitter: https://twitter.com/perpprotocol

Yenwen's Twitter： https://twitter.com/tempofeng

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

EP.4: [EN] Tascha Punyaneramitdee - Finding Alpha with Alpha Finance Lab / 在 Alpha Finance Lab 中发现 Alpha

mable@multicoin.capital (Tascha Punyaneramitdee, Alpha Finance Lab, Mable Jiang) — Tue, 24 Nov 2020 16:37:12 +0000

Today (Nov 24, 2020) is the day that the Yearn Community Proposal for moving the treasury KP3R-ETH to Alpha Homora went effective. It is a good day to have this conversation with Tascha at Alpha.

In this episode, we talked about Alpha Finance Lab's vision and why the team started the project. We discussed quite extensively on Alpha Homora, the first product within the product suite of Alpha, especially on how they plan to grow from where they are now. We also covered their latest Trading Volume Liquidity Mining, on why they designed the program this way.

The conversation also included the cross-community engagement effort that Alpha made, Alpha's involvement with Binance Smart Chain, and the plan for the next perpetual swap product. Hopefully our audience can benefit from the fruitful discussion (with the alpha leaked!).

At the end, Tascha also welcomed our Chinese community members to join the Official WeChat community group by adding the group manager (WeChat ID: CryptoFrog_Tom) with a note "remark ALPHA".

About Alpha Finance Lab: Alpha Finance Lab is an ecosystem of cross-chain DeFi products that will interoperate to bring optimal alpha returns to users. Alpha products focus on capturing unaddressed demand in DeFi in an innovative and user friendly way. It is backed by global investors including Spartan Capital, DeFiance Capital, and Multicoin Capital.

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

今天（2020年11月24日）正值Yearn社区提案有关将KP3R-ETH的金库管理移至Alpha Homora的生效，因此今天也是个与Alpha的Tascha进行对话的好日子。

在本集中，我们讨论了Alpha Finance Lab的愿景以及团队为何启动该项目。我们对Alpha产品组件中的第一个产品Alpha Homora上进行了细致对讨论，特别是关于Alpha Homora未来的发展计划。谈话中我们还讨论了他们最新的流动性挖矿计划，介绍了他们为什么以此方式设计该计划。

本集对话还包括Alpha进行的跨社区运营工作，Alpha与Binance Smart Chain的合作以及Alpha下一个产品——永续合约产品的计划。希望我们的听众可以从这期的讨论中受益（“alpha泄漏！”）。

最后，Tascha还欢迎我们的华人社区成员加入官方微信社区小组，只需添加社区经理（微信ID：CryptoFrog_Tom）并加上“remark ALPHA”字样。

关于Alpha Finance Lab：Alpha Finance Lab 是一个专注于构建跨链DeFi 生态系统产品的项目，它将以创新和对用户友好的方式捕捉DeFi 中未被解决的需求。Spartan Group、DeFiance Capital 和 Multicoin Capital 为其战略投资者。

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EP.3: [CN+EN] Eric Chen - 聊聊与Injective看似无关又息息相关的那些事儿 / On All the Things that Directly Related to Injective

mable@multicoin.capital (Multicoin Capital) — Tue, 17 Nov 2020 08:54:11 +0000

和Eric Chen 是今年疫情期间认识的，但这位年轻的创始人在行业里已经摸爬滚打好一阵子了。从中学时代自己装电脑开始了解到比特币挖矿，到后来大二结束辍学创业，Eric 一直在用实际行动挑战传统亚洲家庭里的“聪明孩子” 的定义。

这一期是特别的一期，因为Eric 在《伍拾壹说》诞生之际，提议做一期51%是普通话，49%是英语的播客。本播客前半段是普通话，和Eric聊了聊他的成长与入行经历，并且基于Eric生活在国外 + 中国人的身份，我们也讨论了加密世界东西方市场形态的异和同；后半段是英语，Eric 探讨了他对加密市场和行业技术发展的一些观点。

这一期里我们没有涉及Injective Protocol本身的进展，因为Eric觉得自己平时已经聊的太多了。然而我们对于订单簿vs自动做市商、二层网络、跨链、defi协议的护城河等的讨论，都是与Injective Protocol息息相关的。

彩蛋：除了自己的项目之外，Eric对于加密世界的什么进展最有期待？

关于 Injective Protocol

Injective Protocol 是全球首个 Layer2 衍生品 DEX。Injective 点对点的去中心化衍生品协议可以在以太坊上实现快速安全的永续合约、期货、杠杆和现货交易，集成可验证延迟函数（VDF），用以杜绝交易作弊和不良交易的去中心化交易协议。 https://linktr.ee/injective

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I got to know Eric in the post-COVID era, so I never got to meet him in person. In fact, we never met each other even in video, but we still became good friends online.

Eric was an untypical "smart Asian kid" - he managed to put together his own computer in middle school, and learned to use that for Bitcoin mining; later, he dropped out of college to join full-time in crypto, and founded Injective Protocol afterwards.

When I first launched 51%, Eric Chen suggested that we should do an episode 51% in Mandarin and 49% in English. In the first half of this episode (Mandarin), I chatted with Eric about how he got into crypto and how he founded Injective. We also talked briefly about the difference of market structure in the east and in the west. In the second half of the episode, which is conducted in English, we discussed general things that are directly related to Injective, such as CLOB vs. AMM, layer 2, crosschain, and the defensibility of defi protocols.

Post-credit scene question: Other than Injective Protocol, what are the things that Eric feel most excited about in crypto?

About Injective Protocol

A secure, fully decentralized layer-2 derivatives DEX that unlocks the full potential of borderless DeFi. https://linktr.ee/injective

Twitter: https://twitter.com/InjectiveLabs

For more information about Multicoin Capital, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.

EP.2: [CN] Flex Yang & Del Wang（杨舟&王立） - 贝宝金融的星辰大海 / Babel Finance and their Dream

mable@multicoin.capital (Mable Jiang, Del Wang, Flex Yang) — Tue, 17 Nov 2020 08:31:51 +0000

自2018年成立，贝宝金融已经走到了它的第三个年头。

这一期里，贝宝金融联合创始人杨舟和王立与我们分享了他们成长的过程与创业的故事。我们也探讨了，相比最初诞生时的产品形态，贝宝有了哪些自我定位的迭代？

本期节目录制于2020年7月，正是大家火热讨论中心化金融与去中心化金融之争的时候。在去中心化金融协议开始与中心化金融服务提供商抢夺定价权和竞争融资成本之际，定位“区块链的JPM“的贝宝金融又有什么样的思考？

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EP.1: [CN] Chao Wang（王超） - 比特派的前世今生与区块链钱包的产品形态 / On Bitpie and Crypto Wallets

mable@multicoin.capital (Chao Wang, Mable Jiang) — Tue, 17 Nov 2020 04:31:38 +0000

本期节目是伍拾壹说的第一期正式访谈，于2020年7月录制，邀请到了比特派的王超。在本期节目里，王超作为一个行业老兵，谈了自己的从业经历，比特派自成立以来对迭代发展，以及对钱包未来可能的产品形态的思考。

在三个月前本期节目录制之时正好是今年去中心化金融进行到高潮的时候，钱包作为大众的链上交互界面也受到了多方的关注。自七月以来，行业也对钱包的产品形态、价值与服务提供有了许多新的理解，希望在未来的节目中可以和赛道里的其他从业者进行更深入的讨论。

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重要声明：Mable或嘉宾在播客中的观点仅代表他们的个人看法，并不代表Multicoin Capital官方的观点。此播客仅用于提供信息，不作为投资参考。Multicoin Capital有时可能会在此节目中讨论的某些代币或公司中持有头寸。

EP.0: [EN] Kyle Samani & Tushar Jain - Multicoin的东行之路 / Multicoin Going East

mable@multicoin.capital (Kyle Samani, Tushar Jain, Mable Jiang) — Tue, 17 Nov 2020 04:22:02 +0000

《伍拾壹说》很高兴跟大家见面了！本节目由Multicoin Capital的Mable Jiang主理，每期旨在向听众呈现一些区块链从业者的创意想法、有趣经历与开发运营进展，围绕华语世界从业者为主，也会不定期邀请亚洲其他地区非华语的从业者参与。

这一期是在2020年8月录制的，到今天在行业内已经经历了许多事情，因此这一期算是一个小小的回顾。本期对话里，Multicoin Capital 创始人 Kyle Samani 和 Tushar Jain 为大家讲述了最初创业的故事，Multicoin Capital 的东行之路，他们对于为项目方提供价值与赋能所做的思考与努力，以及他们在接下来一段时间感到兴奋的行业方向。

初次见面，希望大家喜欢，也希望大家在今后的日子里多多与《伍拾壹说》互动！

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Hello everyone! Welcome to the Genesis episode of our Asia podcast series. I'm your host Mable Jiang. Today we have the co-founders and managing partners of Multicoin Capital Kyle Samani and Tushar Jain to join us.

In this conversation we cover a ton of ground. We talk about how Kyle and Tushar got into crypto, why they doubled down on Asia, and what technologies, projects, and ideas they find most compelling within the region.

Below are some quick audio bookmarks to help you jump around and find what you're looking for:

00:28 — How Multicoin Capital got started
06:49 — How and when Multicoin Capital became interested in China
12:18 — Recent results and revelations from on-the-ground insights from China
17:06 — Investments that Multicoin Capital has made in the East
21:10 — Kyle and Mable discuss the launch of Project Serum
27:53 — Kyle and Mable talk about interoperability and Solana
30:41 — Tushar and Kyle discuss the recent proliferation of DeFI
37:56 — Mable and Kyle talk about exchange innovation in Asia

For more information about this podcast, please visit https://multicoin.capital/.