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      <title>Hollywood Actresses, the Oscars, and Wuthering Heights with Izzy from Be Kind Rewind</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Showing her love of movies, Izzy from <a href="https://linktr.ee/bkrewind" rel="noopener noreferrer">Be Kind Rewind</a> chats with us about her process of creating video essays and connection to researching actresses in the Hollywood system. We discuss how her fannish love of TCM films turned into a passion for making videos and navigating complex topics often overlooked or simplified into gossip. Diving deeper into this, Izzy speaks about her recent video on actress Merle Oberon’s race as it relates to William Wyler’s <i>Wuthering Heights </i>(1939) and its latest adaption by Emerald Fennell. There we discuss how the construction of stardom and the text of a piece impact readings of race as a racialized work attempts to become de-racailized by directorial choices. Using her Vanessa Redgrave video, Izzy also talks to us about the Oscars,its relationship to politics, and how it impacts actresses. We end this longer epsiode with a hint of the future for Be Kind Rewind and our 2026 Oscar predictions. Afterwards, Samantha and Henry give their Oscar predictions in every category.</p>
<p>This episode is filled with fun, fandom, and just a touch of Hollywood magic! We get into what passions drive a video essayist and the interesting topics that can happen about the film industry if we are not strictly going by salacious headlines. It is an episode that not only asks viewers to watch more films but, also challenges them to think about the wider implications of the moving image.  </p>
<p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p>
<p>Some Suggested BKR Videos:</p>
<ul>
 <li>YouTube [<a href="https://youtube.com/@bkrewind?si=oFsOMOb4s9EHO2oT" rel="noopener noreferrer">Channel Link</a>]</li>
 <li>Nebula [<a href="https://nebula.tv/bekindrewind" rel="noopener noreferrer">Channel Link</a>]</li>
 <li><a href="https://youtu.be/lv8ic1r3fXw?si=YeipWChJnNJGqM6G" rel="noopener noreferrer">Merle Oberon and the Whiteness of Wuthering Heights</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqcCBmp5BsU" rel="noopener noreferrer">Why Vanessa Redgrave Gave the Most Controversial Oscar Speech Ever</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zztP7tVRtuY" rel="noopener noreferrer">How Carrie Fisher Blurred Fact and Fiction </a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50MgmKfS1Ic" rel="noopener noreferrer">Performing Authenticity: The Cinema of Lady Gaga</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVH7kcdfLkY" rel="noopener noreferrer">Sofia Coppola and The Godfather Part III Disaster</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR4HFxEoX50" rel="noopener noreferrer">How Michelle Yeoh Went from Bond Girl to Best Actress Oscar Winner in the American Media</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWYISEEl2dI" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Feud of Bette Davis and Joan Crawford | 1963: Pt. 2</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Academic/Educational readings and resources:</p>
<ul>
 <li><a href="https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/black-oscars-9781538175682/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Black Oscars: From Mammy to Minny, What the Academy Awards Tell Us about African Americans Hardcover </a></li>
 <li><a href="https://womensmediacenter.com/reports/wmc-investigation-2026-gender-and-non-acting-oscar-nominations" rel="noopener noreferrer">WMC Investigation 2026: Gender and Non-Acting Oscar Nominations - Full Report</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://inclusionlist.org/oscars" rel="noopener noreferrer">Why Analyze Inclusion at the Oscars?</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://socialsciences.ucla.edu/initiatives/hollywood-diversity-report/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Hollywood Diversity Report</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.jstor.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer">JSTOR</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_Babylon" rel="noopener noreferrer">Hollywood Babylon</a></li>
</ul>
<p>People & Places:</p>
<ul>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindsay_Ellis" rel="noopener noreferrer">Lindsay Ellis</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@Princess_Weekes" rel="noopener noreferrer">Princess Weekes</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2193504/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Emerald Fennell</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0643353/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Merle Oberon</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000603/?ref_=fn_t_1" rel="noopener noreferrer">Vanessa Redgrave</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3078932/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_7_nm_1_in_0_q_Lady%20Gaga" rel="noopener noreferrer">Lady Gaga</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001068/?ref_=fn_t_1" rel="noopener noreferrer">Sophia Coppola</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000473/?ref_=fn_t_1" rel="noopener noreferrer">Diane Keaton</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0614682/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_1_nm_7_in_0_q_Ryan%20Murphy" rel="noopener noreferrer">Ryan Murphy</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000012/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_1_nm_7_in_0_q_betty%20davis" rel="noopener noreferrer">Betty Davis</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001076/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_6_nm_2_in_0_q_Joan%20Crawford" rel="noopener noreferrer">Joan Crawford</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000059/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Laurence Olivier</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000173/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_1_tt_6_nm_1_in_0_q_nicole%20kidman" rel="noopener noreferrer">Nicole Kidman</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000046/?ref_=tt_ov_3_2" rel="noopener noreferrer">Vivien Leigh</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0938923/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_6_nm_2_in_0_q_Ana%20Mae%20Wong" rel="noopener noreferrer">Anna May Wong</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0567408/?ref_=tt_cst_t_9" rel="noopener noreferrer">Hattie McDaniel</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001369/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_6_nm_2_in_0_q_Rock%20Hudson" rel="noopener noreferrer">Rock Hudson</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cole_Escola" rel="noopener noreferrer">Cole Escola</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000706/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_1_tt_4_nm_3_in_0_q_Michelle%20Yeoh" rel="noopener noreferrer">Michelle Yeoh</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3692520/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_1_tt_6_nm_1_in_0_q_Teynna%20Taylor" rel="noopener noreferrer">Teyana Taylor</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2148911/?ref_=ttfc_fcr_3_20" rel="noopener noreferrer">Wunmi Mosaku</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2976580/?ref_=tt_ov_3_1" rel="noopener noreferrer">Jessie Buckley</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000130/?ref_=fn_t_1" rel="noopener noreferrer">Jamie Lee Curtis</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.tft.ucla.edu/faculty/chon-a-noriega/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Chon A. Noriega</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karina_Longworth" rel="noopener noreferrer">Karina Longworth</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0591485/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Liza Minnelli</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000023/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Judy Garland</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoko_Ono" rel="noopener noreferrer">Yoko Ono</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0326418/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Samuel Goldwyn</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0943758/" rel="noopener noreferrer">William Wyler</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001805/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Lana Turner</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lupe_V%C3%A9lez" rel="noopener noreferrer">Lupe Velez</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Media:</p>
<ul>
 <li><a href="https://www.tcm.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">TCM</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.oscars.org/node/1" rel="noopener noreferrer">Oscars</a>
  <ul>
   <li><a href="https://www.oscars.org/oscars/ceremonies/2026" rel="noopener noreferrer">The 98th Academy Awards </a>(2026)</li>
  </ul></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0032145/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Wuthering Heights (1939 film)</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt32897959/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Wuthering Heights (2026 film)</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056687/" rel="noopener noreferrer">What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMOABV_zgrk" rel="noopener noreferrer">Did Yoko Break Up The Beatles? </a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9734qH3A1iE" rel="noopener noreferrer">Sadly, Wuthering Heights Discourse Is That Deep</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAcOsK9gRLk" rel="noopener noreferrer">1978 Oscars Vanessa Redgrave Win </a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.kanopy.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Kanopy</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.criterionchannel.com/browse" rel="noopener noreferrer">Criterion Channel</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://tubitv.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">Tubi</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/podcast/little-gold-men?srsltid=AfmBOooBHNHUOsnAEIpPhfZe5xE6XltxlL9khGVyNKTCvW2NLMkCazb9" rel="noopener noreferrer">Little Gold Men podcast</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.filmcomment.com/blog/the-film-comment-podcast-the-best-films-of-2025/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Film Comment podcast</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510282/pop-culture-happy-hour" rel="noopener noreferrer">Pop Culture Happy Hour podcast</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062994/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Funny Girl (1968)</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0203009/?ref_=nm_flmg_job_1_accord_2_cdt_t_67" rel="noopener noreferrer">Moulin Rouge! (2001)</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinderella_(Lloyd_Webber_musical)" rel="noopener noreferrer">Bad Cinderella</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0031381/?ref_=fn_t_1" rel="noopener noreferrer">Gone With The Wind (1939)</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0025316/?ref_=fn_t_1" rel="noopener noreferrer">It Happened One Night (1934)</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt31193180/?ref_=fn_t_1" rel="noopener noreferrer">Sinners (2025)</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt30144839/?ref_=fn_t_1" rel="noopener noreferrer">One Battle After Another (2025)</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14905854/?ref_=fn_t_1" rel="noopener noreferrer">Hamnet (2025)</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099674/?ref_=fn_t_1" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Godfather Part III (1990)</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9827854/?ref_=nm_flmg_job_1_accord_2_cdt_t_28" rel="noopener noreferrer">Hollywood</a> (TV mini series)</li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1984119/?ref_=nm_flmg_job_1_accord_2_cdt_t_14" rel="noopener noreferrer">Feud</a> (TV series)</li>
</ul>
<p>You might also enjoy our previous<a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-29-the-politics-within-politics-of-the-oscars/" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Oscar Themed episode</a> and the <a href="https://henryjenkins.org/blog/2026/3/10/oscars-watch-2026-thoughts-on-the-oscars-from-someone-who-wrote-a-book-about-them" rel="noopener noreferrer">Oscar Watch </a>series Henry is currently running on his blog. </p>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2026 22:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Henry Jenkins, Samantha Tecson, Be Kind Rewind)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Showing her love of movies, Izzy from <a href="https://linktr.ee/bkrewind" rel="noopener noreferrer">Be Kind Rewind</a> chats with us about her process of creating video essays and connection to researching actresses in the Hollywood system. We discuss how her fannish love of TCM films turned into a passion for making videos and navigating complex topics often overlooked or simplified into gossip. Diving deeper into this, Izzy speaks about her recent video on actress Merle Oberon’s race as it relates to William Wyler’s <i>Wuthering Heights </i>(1939) and its latest adaption by Emerald Fennell. There we discuss how the construction of stardom and the text of a piece impact readings of race as a racialized work attempts to become de-racailized by directorial choices. Using her Vanessa Redgrave video, Izzy also talks to us about the Oscars,its relationship to politics, and how it impacts actresses. We end this longer epsiode with a hint of the future for Be Kind Rewind and our 2026 Oscar predictions. Afterwards, Samantha and Henry give their Oscar predictions in every category.</p>
<p>This episode is filled with fun, fandom, and just a touch of Hollywood magic! We get into what passions drive a video essayist and the interesting topics that can happen about the film industry if we are not strictly going by salacious headlines. It is an episode that not only asks viewers to watch more films but, also challenges them to think about the wider implications of the moving image.  </p>
<p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p>
<p>Some Suggested BKR Videos:</p>
<ul>
 <li>YouTube [<a href="https://youtube.com/@bkrewind?si=oFsOMOb4s9EHO2oT" rel="noopener noreferrer">Channel Link</a>]</li>
 <li>Nebula [<a href="https://nebula.tv/bekindrewind" rel="noopener noreferrer">Channel Link</a>]</li>
 <li><a href="https://youtu.be/lv8ic1r3fXw?si=YeipWChJnNJGqM6G" rel="noopener noreferrer">Merle Oberon and the Whiteness of Wuthering Heights</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqcCBmp5BsU" rel="noopener noreferrer">Why Vanessa Redgrave Gave the Most Controversial Oscar Speech Ever</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zztP7tVRtuY" rel="noopener noreferrer">How Carrie Fisher Blurred Fact and Fiction </a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50MgmKfS1Ic" rel="noopener noreferrer">Performing Authenticity: The Cinema of Lady Gaga</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVH7kcdfLkY" rel="noopener noreferrer">Sofia Coppola and The Godfather Part III Disaster</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR4HFxEoX50" rel="noopener noreferrer">How Michelle Yeoh Went from Bond Girl to Best Actress Oscar Winner in the American Media</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWYISEEl2dI" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Feud of Bette Davis and Joan Crawford | 1963: Pt. 2</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Academic/Educational readings and resources:</p>
<ul>
 <li><a href="https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/black-oscars-9781538175682/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Black Oscars: From Mammy to Minny, What the Academy Awards Tell Us about African Americans Hardcover </a></li>
 <li><a href="https://womensmediacenter.com/reports/wmc-investigation-2026-gender-and-non-acting-oscar-nominations" rel="noopener noreferrer">WMC Investigation 2026: Gender and Non-Acting Oscar Nominations - Full Report</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://inclusionlist.org/oscars" rel="noopener noreferrer">Why Analyze Inclusion at the Oscars?</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://socialsciences.ucla.edu/initiatives/hollywood-diversity-report/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Hollywood Diversity Report</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.jstor.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer">JSTOR</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_Babylon" rel="noopener noreferrer">Hollywood Babylon</a></li>
</ul>
<p>People & Places:</p>
<ul>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindsay_Ellis" rel="noopener noreferrer">Lindsay Ellis</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@Princess_Weekes" rel="noopener noreferrer">Princess Weekes</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2193504/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Emerald Fennell</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0643353/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Merle Oberon</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000603/?ref_=fn_t_1" rel="noopener noreferrer">Vanessa Redgrave</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3078932/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_7_nm_1_in_0_q_Lady%20Gaga" rel="noopener noreferrer">Lady Gaga</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001068/?ref_=fn_t_1" rel="noopener noreferrer">Sophia Coppola</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000473/?ref_=fn_t_1" rel="noopener noreferrer">Diane Keaton</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0614682/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_1_nm_7_in_0_q_Ryan%20Murphy" rel="noopener noreferrer">Ryan Murphy</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000012/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_1_nm_7_in_0_q_betty%20davis" rel="noopener noreferrer">Betty Davis</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001076/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_6_nm_2_in_0_q_Joan%20Crawford" rel="noopener noreferrer">Joan Crawford</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000059/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Laurence Olivier</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000173/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_1_tt_6_nm_1_in_0_q_nicole%20kidman" rel="noopener noreferrer">Nicole Kidman</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000046/?ref_=tt_ov_3_2" rel="noopener noreferrer">Vivien Leigh</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0938923/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_6_nm_2_in_0_q_Ana%20Mae%20Wong" rel="noopener noreferrer">Anna May Wong</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0567408/?ref_=tt_cst_t_9" rel="noopener noreferrer">Hattie McDaniel</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001369/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_6_nm_2_in_0_q_Rock%20Hudson" rel="noopener noreferrer">Rock Hudson</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cole_Escola" rel="noopener noreferrer">Cole Escola</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000706/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_1_tt_4_nm_3_in_0_q_Michelle%20Yeoh" rel="noopener noreferrer">Michelle Yeoh</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3692520/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_1_tt_6_nm_1_in_0_q_Teynna%20Taylor" rel="noopener noreferrer">Teyana Taylor</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2148911/?ref_=ttfc_fcr_3_20" rel="noopener noreferrer">Wunmi Mosaku</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2976580/?ref_=tt_ov_3_1" rel="noopener noreferrer">Jessie Buckley</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000130/?ref_=fn_t_1" rel="noopener noreferrer">Jamie Lee Curtis</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.tft.ucla.edu/faculty/chon-a-noriega/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Chon A. Noriega</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karina_Longworth" rel="noopener noreferrer">Karina Longworth</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0591485/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Liza Minnelli</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000023/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Judy Garland</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoko_Ono" rel="noopener noreferrer">Yoko Ono</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0326418/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Samuel Goldwyn</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0943758/" rel="noopener noreferrer">William Wyler</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001805/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Lana Turner</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lupe_V%C3%A9lez" rel="noopener noreferrer">Lupe Velez</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Media:</p>
<ul>
 <li><a href="https://www.tcm.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">TCM</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.oscars.org/node/1" rel="noopener noreferrer">Oscars</a>
  <ul>
   <li><a href="https://www.oscars.org/oscars/ceremonies/2026" rel="noopener noreferrer">The 98th Academy Awards </a>(2026)</li>
  </ul></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0032145/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Wuthering Heights (1939 film)</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt32897959/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Wuthering Heights (2026 film)</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056687/" rel="noopener noreferrer">What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMOABV_zgrk" rel="noopener noreferrer">Did Yoko Break Up The Beatles? </a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9734qH3A1iE" rel="noopener noreferrer">Sadly, Wuthering Heights Discourse Is That Deep</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAcOsK9gRLk" rel="noopener noreferrer">1978 Oscars Vanessa Redgrave Win </a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.kanopy.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Kanopy</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.criterionchannel.com/browse" rel="noopener noreferrer">Criterion Channel</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://tubitv.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">Tubi</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/podcast/little-gold-men?srsltid=AfmBOooBHNHUOsnAEIpPhfZe5xE6XltxlL9khGVyNKTCvW2NLMkCazb9" rel="noopener noreferrer">Little Gold Men podcast</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.filmcomment.com/blog/the-film-comment-podcast-the-best-films-of-2025/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Film Comment podcast</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510282/pop-culture-happy-hour" rel="noopener noreferrer">Pop Culture Happy Hour podcast</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062994/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Funny Girl (1968)</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0203009/?ref_=nm_flmg_job_1_accord_2_cdt_t_67" rel="noopener noreferrer">Moulin Rouge! (2001)</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinderella_(Lloyd_Webber_musical)" rel="noopener noreferrer">Bad Cinderella</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0031381/?ref_=fn_t_1" rel="noopener noreferrer">Gone With The Wind (1939)</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0025316/?ref_=fn_t_1" rel="noopener noreferrer">It Happened One Night (1934)</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt31193180/?ref_=fn_t_1" rel="noopener noreferrer">Sinners (2025)</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt30144839/?ref_=fn_t_1" rel="noopener noreferrer">One Battle After Another (2025)</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14905854/?ref_=fn_t_1" rel="noopener noreferrer">Hamnet (2025)</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099674/?ref_=fn_t_1" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Godfather Part III (1990)</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9827854/?ref_=nm_flmg_job_1_accord_2_cdt_t_28" rel="noopener noreferrer">Hollywood</a> (TV mini series)</li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1984119/?ref_=nm_flmg_job_1_accord_2_cdt_t_14" rel="noopener noreferrer">Feud</a> (TV series)</li>
</ul>
<p>You might also enjoy our previous<a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-29-the-politics-within-politics-of-the-oscars/" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Oscar Themed episode</a> and the <a href="https://henryjenkins.org/blog/2026/3/10/oscars-watch-2026-thoughts-on-the-oscars-from-someone-who-wrote-a-book-about-them" rel="noopener noreferrer">Oscar Watch </a>series Henry is currently running on his blog. </p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Hollywood Actresses, the Oscars, and Wuthering Heights with Izzy from Be Kind Rewind</itunes:title>
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      <title>Frames of Fandom with Robert Kozinets</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Professor of Journalism at USC Annenberg, <a href="https://annenberg.usc.edu/faculty/robert-kozinets" rel="noopener noreferrer">Robert Kozinets</a>, and Henry Jenkins speak with us about their ongoing book series <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DQP3JK21?binding=kindle_edition&ref=dbs_dp_rwt_sb_pc_tkin" rel="noopener noreferrer"><i>Frames of Fandom</i></a>. Both authors explore how they met, their ever-evolving work in fan studies, and what inspired them to create a 16-book series. Both scholars discuss the complexity of fandom as it intersects with consumer culture and subcultures. They even ask if fandom itself can be considered a subculture or something akin to religion! The conversation ends with a discussion of accessibility to academic texts, their choice of writing personal ethnographies throughout the books, and the future of the book series.   </p>
<p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p>
<p>Academic/Educational readings and resources:</p>
<ul>
 <li>Frames of Fandom book series [<a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DQP3JK21?binding=kindle_edition&ref=dbs_dp_rwt_sb_pc_tkin" rel="noopener noreferrer">Amazon Link</a>]</li>
 <li><a href="https://www.routledge.com/Netnography-Unlimited-Understanding-Technoculture-using-Qualitative-Social/Kozinets-Gambetti/p/book/9780367425654" rel="noopener noreferrer">Netnography Unlimited Understanding Technoculture using Qualitative Social Media Research</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://us.sagepub.com/en-us/nam/influencers-and-creators/book277197" rel="noopener noreferrer">Influencers and Creators Business, Culture and Practice</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://nyupress.org/9780814743072/convergence-culture/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Convergence Culture</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://cmsw.mit.edu/tag/convergence-culture-consortium/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Convergence Culture Consortium</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.taylorfrancis.com/books/mono/10.4324/9780203114339/textual-poachers-henry-jenkins" rel="noopener noreferrer">Textual Poachers</a></li>
</ul>
<p>People & Places:</p>
<ul>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Led_Zeppelin" rel="noopener noreferrer">Led Zeppelin</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camille_Bacon-Smith" rel="noopener noreferrer">Camille Bacon-Smith</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.filmandmedia.ucsb.edu/person/penley/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Constance Penley</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://mitsloan.mit.edu/faculty/directory/eric-arthur-von-hippel" rel="noopener noreferrer">Eric Arthur von Hippel</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.mlb.com/bluejays/ballpark" rel="noopener noreferrer">Rogers Centre </a></li>
 <li><a href="https://disneyland.disney.go.com/destinations/disneyland/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Disneyland</a>
  <ul>
   <li><a href="https://disneyland.disney.go.com/attractions/disneyland/haunted-mansion/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Haunted Mansion</a></li>
  </ul></li>
 <li><a href="https://jonasbrothers.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Jonas Brothers</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000184/" rel="noopener noreferrer">George Lucas</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.popmart.com/us" rel="noopener noreferrer">Pop Mart</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._K._Rowling" rel="noopener noreferrer">JK Rowling</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.ucl.ac.uk/social-historical-sciences/anthropology/people/academic-and-teaching-staff/daniel-miller" rel="noopener noreferrer">Daniel Miller</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.burlington.org.uk/archive/article/michael-baxandall-19332008" rel="noopener noreferrer">Michael Baxandall</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.gold.ac.uk/media-communications/people/mcrobbie/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Angela McRobbie </a></li>
</ul>
<p>Media:</p>
<ul>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_World_Series" rel="noopener noreferrer">2025 MLB World Series </a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.baseball-reference.com/postseason/1993_WS.shtml" rel="noopener noreferrer">1993 World Series</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.cfl.ca/" rel="noopener noreferrer">CFL</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.mlb.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">MLB</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_LIX" rel="noopener noreferrer">Super Bowl LIX</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labubu" rel="noopener noreferrer">Labubu</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Reddit</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Facebook</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.startrek.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Star Trek</a></li>
 <li>Aurora monster models [<a href="https://www.dembrudders.com/aurora-monster-models.html" rel="noopener noreferrer">Article on toys</a>]</li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Shadows" rel="noopener noreferrer">Dark Shadows</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.monstercomplex.com/blog/complete-universal-monsters" rel="noopener noreferrer">Universal Monster Films</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famous_Monsters_of_Filmland" rel="noopener noreferrer">Famous Monsters of Filmland</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_Cinematic_Universe" rel="noopener noreferrer">Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) </a></li>
 <li>Strange Sports Stories [<a href="https://mikegrost.com/sport.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer">Article on the comic series</a>]</li>
 <li>Space Jam (<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117705/" rel="noopener noreferrer">1996</a>)</li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3554046/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Space Jam: A New Legacy</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.harrypotter.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Harry Potter</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.hbo.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">HBO</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://magic.wizards.com/en" rel="noopener noreferrer">Magic The Gathering</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.monsterhunter.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Monster Hunter</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.fortnite.com/?lang=en-US" rel="noopener noreferrer">Fortnite</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://en.dragon-ball-official.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Dragon Ball </a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.ford.com/mustang/?srsltid=AfmBOoo5AgfjH_tof5azBZHXS7d_Ob7UWFQ_AATZ6H_lvCxwkFeBzngw" rel="noopener noreferrer">Ford Mustang</a></li>
 <li>Disney Bounding [<a href="https://www.undercovertourist.com/blog/guide-to-disneybounding/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Blog Guide</a>]</li>
</ul>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2026 00:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Henry Jenkins, Colin Maclay, Samantha Tecson, Robert Kozinets)</author>
      <link>https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/?p=1438</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professor of Journalism at USC Annenberg, <a href="https://annenberg.usc.edu/faculty/robert-kozinets" rel="noopener noreferrer">Robert Kozinets</a>, and Henry Jenkins speak with us about their ongoing book series <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DQP3JK21?binding=kindle_edition&ref=dbs_dp_rwt_sb_pc_tkin" rel="noopener noreferrer"><i>Frames of Fandom</i></a>. Both authors explore how they met, their ever-evolving work in fan studies, and what inspired them to create a 16-book series. Both scholars discuss the complexity of fandom as it intersects with consumer culture and subcultures. They even ask if fandom itself can be considered a subculture or something akin to religion! The conversation ends with a discussion of accessibility to academic texts, their choice of writing personal ethnographies throughout the books, and the future of the book series.   </p>
<p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p>
<p>Academic/Educational readings and resources:</p>
<ul>
 <li>Frames of Fandom book series [<a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DQP3JK21?binding=kindle_edition&ref=dbs_dp_rwt_sb_pc_tkin" rel="noopener noreferrer">Amazon Link</a>]</li>
 <li><a href="https://www.routledge.com/Netnography-Unlimited-Understanding-Technoculture-using-Qualitative-Social/Kozinets-Gambetti/p/book/9780367425654" rel="noopener noreferrer">Netnography Unlimited Understanding Technoculture using Qualitative Social Media Research</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://us.sagepub.com/en-us/nam/influencers-and-creators/book277197" rel="noopener noreferrer">Influencers and Creators Business, Culture and Practice</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://nyupress.org/9780814743072/convergence-culture/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Convergence Culture</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://cmsw.mit.edu/tag/convergence-culture-consortium/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Convergence Culture Consortium</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.taylorfrancis.com/books/mono/10.4324/9780203114339/textual-poachers-henry-jenkins" rel="noopener noreferrer">Textual Poachers</a></li>
</ul>
<p>People & Places:</p>
<ul>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Led_Zeppelin" rel="noopener noreferrer">Led Zeppelin</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camille_Bacon-Smith" rel="noopener noreferrer">Camille Bacon-Smith</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.filmandmedia.ucsb.edu/person/penley/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Constance Penley</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://mitsloan.mit.edu/faculty/directory/eric-arthur-von-hippel" rel="noopener noreferrer">Eric Arthur von Hippel</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.mlb.com/bluejays/ballpark" rel="noopener noreferrer">Rogers Centre </a></li>
 <li><a href="https://disneyland.disney.go.com/destinations/disneyland/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Disneyland</a>
  <ul>
   <li><a href="https://disneyland.disney.go.com/attractions/disneyland/haunted-mansion/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Haunted Mansion</a></li>
  </ul></li>
 <li><a href="https://jonasbrothers.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Jonas Brothers</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000184/" rel="noopener noreferrer">George Lucas</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.popmart.com/us" rel="noopener noreferrer">Pop Mart</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._K._Rowling" rel="noopener noreferrer">JK Rowling</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.ucl.ac.uk/social-historical-sciences/anthropology/people/academic-and-teaching-staff/daniel-miller" rel="noopener noreferrer">Daniel Miller</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.burlington.org.uk/archive/article/michael-baxandall-19332008" rel="noopener noreferrer">Michael Baxandall</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.gold.ac.uk/media-communications/people/mcrobbie/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Angela McRobbie </a></li>
</ul>
<p>Media:</p>
<ul>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_World_Series" rel="noopener noreferrer">2025 MLB World Series </a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.baseball-reference.com/postseason/1993_WS.shtml" rel="noopener noreferrer">1993 World Series</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.cfl.ca/" rel="noopener noreferrer">CFL</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.mlb.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">MLB</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_LIX" rel="noopener noreferrer">Super Bowl LIX</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labubu" rel="noopener noreferrer">Labubu</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Reddit</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Facebook</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.startrek.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Star Trek</a></li>
 <li>Aurora monster models [<a href="https://www.dembrudders.com/aurora-monster-models.html" rel="noopener noreferrer">Article on toys</a>]</li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Shadows" rel="noopener noreferrer">Dark Shadows</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.monstercomplex.com/blog/complete-universal-monsters" rel="noopener noreferrer">Universal Monster Films</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famous_Monsters_of_Filmland" rel="noopener noreferrer">Famous Monsters of Filmland</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_Cinematic_Universe" rel="noopener noreferrer">Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) </a></li>
 <li>Strange Sports Stories [<a href="https://mikegrost.com/sport.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer">Article on the comic series</a>]</li>
 <li>Space Jam (<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117705/" rel="noopener noreferrer">1996</a>)</li>
 <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3554046/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Space Jam: A New Legacy</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.harrypotter.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Harry Potter</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.hbo.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">HBO</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://magic.wizards.com/en" rel="noopener noreferrer">Magic The Gathering</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.monsterhunter.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Monster Hunter</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.fortnite.com/?lang=en-US" rel="noopener noreferrer">Fortnite</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://en.dragon-ball-official.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Dragon Ball </a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.ford.com/mustang/?srsltid=AfmBOoo5AgfjH_tof5azBZHXS7d_Ob7UWFQ_AATZ6H_lvCxwkFeBzngw" rel="noopener noreferrer">Ford Mustang</a></li>
 <li>Disney Bounding [<a href="https://www.undercovertourist.com/blog/guide-to-disneybounding/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Blog Guide</a>]</li>
</ul>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Frames of Fandom with Robert Kozinets</itunes:title>
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      <title>Global Streaming Services and Cultural Power Relations: Bertha Chin &amp; Swapnil Rai</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, <a href="https://discovery.nus.edu.sg/27241-bertha-chin">Bertha Chin</a>— Senior lecturer and the Director of the National University of Singapore’s Communications And New Media program— and <a href="https://lsa.umich.edu/ftvm/people/faculty/swapnilr.html">Swapnil Rai</a>—Associate Professor Film, Television and Media Associate Professor Communication and Media at the University of Michigan—join us to speak about the global streaming media landscape. From Bollywood to Hollywood, Rai and Chin dissect the complexity of media movements as both parts of cultural imperialism and the widening of fandoms. Both scholars lead us through discussions of the transnational circulations and development of series on streaming platforms, relating them to the wider topic of power relations within globalization. By the end, we are left to examine how we engage with transnational shows, who produces them, and how other countries have interpreted the same show. Is streaming the best way to be exposed to other cultures, or is it trying to mobilize the audiences and resources of other countries? </p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Academic/Educational readings and resources:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.routledge.com/Transnational-Streaming-Television-Reshaping-Global-Flows-and-Power/Straubhaar-Rai-Santillana-Dalben/p/book/9781032826646">Transnational Streaming Television Reshaping Global Flows and Power</a></li><li><a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/networked-bollywood/733A02E3BC07E90126B715D1F1462471">Networked Bollywood How Star Power Globalized Hindi Cinema</a></li><li><a href="https://www.peterlang.com/document/1051562">Crowdfunding the Future Media Industries, Ethics, and Digital Society</a></li><li><a href="https://www.routledge.com/Eating-Fandom-Intersections-Between-Fans-and-Food-Cultures/Reinhard-Largent-Chin/p/book/9780367608798">Eating Fandom Intersections Between Fans and Food Cultures</a></li><li><a href="https://www.academia.edu/109020801/Bollywoodizing_Netflix_or_globalizing_Hotstar_The_cultural_industrial_logics_of_global_streaming_platforms_in_India">Bollywoodizing Netfix or globalizing Hotstar? The cultural-industrial logics of global streaming platforms in India</a></li><li><a href="https://muse.jhu.edu/issue/51781">Modi vs. Wild: Celebritized Politics and the Mediations of a Spiritual Strongman</a></li><li>What Is Arthouse Cinema? A Guide to Movies Off the Mainstream Path [<a href="https://www.backstage.com/magazine/article/arthouse-cinema-definition-examples-78328/">Article Link</a>]</li><li>Netflix Subscribers Statistics 2026 [<a href="https://www.demandsage.com/netflix-subscribers/">Link</a>]</li><li>South Korean Panda discourse [<a href="https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/southkorea/society/20260117/presidents-panda-request-revives-debate-over-animal-diplomacy">News Link</a>]</li></ul><p>People & Places:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.labiennale.org/en/cinema/2026">Venice International Film Festival</a></li><li><a href="https://www.berlinale.de/">Berlin International Film Festival</a></li><li><a href="https://www.festival-cannes.com/en/">Cannes Film Festival</a></li><li><a href="https://www.traderjoes.com/home.html">Trader Joe’s</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Sarandos">Ted Sarandos</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reed_Hastings">Reed Hastings</a></li><li><a href="https://lorimorimoto.net/">Lori Morimoto</a></li><li><a href="https://www.newschool.edu/nssr/faculty/julia-sonnevend/">Julia Sonnevend</a></li><li><a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/world/asia/moo-deng-pygmy-hippo-birthday-viral-videos-thailand-zoo-rcna217195">Moo Deng</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narendra_Modi">Narendra Modi</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_Grylls">Bear Grylls</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Orb%C3%A1n">Victor Orban</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priyanka_Chopra">Priyanka Chopra</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0497631/?ref_=tt_cst_t_1">Lee Jung-jae</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quentin_Tarantino">Quentin Tarantino</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergio_Leone">Sergio Leone</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bong_Joon_Ho">Bong Joon Ho</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Chappelle">Dave Chappelle</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takashi_Miike">Takashi Miike</a></li></ul><p>Media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/">Netflix</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/storefront">Amazon Video</a></li><li><a href="https://www.hotstar.com/us">Disney+ Hotstar</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-pop">K-pop</a> (music genre)</li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106179/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_x-files">The X-Files</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0436992/">Doctor Who</a></li><li><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news">BBC</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0456165/?ref_=sr_t_6">Salaam Namaste</a></li><li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80214886?source=imdb&fromWatch=true">Paranormal</a></li><li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80025172">Narcos</a></li><li>Sacred Games [<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_Games_(novel)">book</a>, <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80115328">Netflix</a>]</li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1954470/">Gangs of Wasseypur</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangs_of_Wasseypur_2">Gangs of Wasseypur 2</a></li><li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80074220">3%</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0944947/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_game%2520of%2520thr">Game of Thrones</a></li><li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81040344">Squid Games</a></li><li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81498621">KPop Demon Hunters</a><ul><li><a href="https://www.hmart.com/shin-ramyun-kpop-demon-hunters-4-23-oz--120g-/p">Shin Ramyun Kpop Demon Hunters</a></li></ul></li><li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/82024852">Bon Appétit, Your Majesty</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118276/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_7_nm_1_in_0_q_Buffy%2520the%2520Vampire%2520Slayer">Buffy the Vampire Slayer</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scooby-Doo">Scooby Doo</a></li><li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81507921">Frankenstein </a>(2025)</li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0395057/">Winter Sonata</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0883772/">Man vs.Wild</a></li><li><a href="https://www.starwars.com/">Star Wars</a></li><li><a href="https://www.startrek.com/">Star Trek</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortal_Kombat">Mortal Kombat</a></li><li><a href="https://www.starwars.com/series/the-acolyte">The Acolyte </a></li><li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80120485">The Mechanism</a></li><li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80141788">Grillo Vs. Grillo</a></li><li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80239931">Patriot Act with Hasan Minhaj</a></li><li>Record of Ragnarok [<a href="https://www.viz.com/record-of-ragnarok">manga</a>, <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81281579">TV show</a>]</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnKwDtMguB4">Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade 2025 </a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt31691389/">Universal Language</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0906665/">Sukiyaki Western Django</a></li></ul>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2026 01:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Colin Maclay, Henry Jenkins, Swapnil Rai, Bertha Chin, Samantha Tecson)</author>
      <link>https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/?p=1434</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, <a href="https://discovery.nus.edu.sg/27241-bertha-chin">Bertha Chin</a>— Senior lecturer and the Director of the National University of Singapore’s Communications And New Media program— and <a href="https://lsa.umich.edu/ftvm/people/faculty/swapnilr.html">Swapnil Rai</a>—Associate Professor Film, Television and Media Associate Professor Communication and Media at the University of Michigan—join us to speak about the global streaming media landscape. From Bollywood to Hollywood, Rai and Chin dissect the complexity of media movements as both parts of cultural imperialism and the widening of fandoms. Both scholars lead us through discussions of the transnational circulations and development of series on streaming platforms, relating them to the wider topic of power relations within globalization. By the end, we are left to examine how we engage with transnational shows, who produces them, and how other countries have interpreted the same show. Is streaming the best way to be exposed to other cultures, or is it trying to mobilize the audiences and resources of other countries? </p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Academic/Educational readings and resources:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.routledge.com/Transnational-Streaming-Television-Reshaping-Global-Flows-and-Power/Straubhaar-Rai-Santillana-Dalben/p/book/9781032826646">Transnational Streaming Television Reshaping Global Flows and Power</a></li><li><a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/networked-bollywood/733A02E3BC07E90126B715D1F1462471">Networked Bollywood How Star Power Globalized Hindi Cinema</a></li><li><a href="https://www.peterlang.com/document/1051562">Crowdfunding the Future Media Industries, Ethics, and Digital Society</a></li><li><a href="https://www.routledge.com/Eating-Fandom-Intersections-Between-Fans-and-Food-Cultures/Reinhard-Largent-Chin/p/book/9780367608798">Eating Fandom Intersections Between Fans and Food Cultures</a></li><li><a href="https://www.academia.edu/109020801/Bollywoodizing_Netflix_or_globalizing_Hotstar_The_cultural_industrial_logics_of_global_streaming_platforms_in_India">Bollywoodizing Netfix or globalizing Hotstar? The cultural-industrial logics of global streaming platforms in India</a></li><li><a href="https://muse.jhu.edu/issue/51781">Modi vs. Wild: Celebritized Politics and the Mediations of a Spiritual Strongman</a></li><li>What Is Arthouse Cinema? A Guide to Movies Off the Mainstream Path [<a href="https://www.backstage.com/magazine/article/arthouse-cinema-definition-examples-78328/">Article Link</a>]</li><li>Netflix Subscribers Statistics 2026 [<a href="https://www.demandsage.com/netflix-subscribers/">Link</a>]</li><li>South Korean Panda discourse [<a href="https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/southkorea/society/20260117/presidents-panda-request-revives-debate-over-animal-diplomacy">News Link</a>]</li></ul><p>People & Places:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.labiennale.org/en/cinema/2026">Venice International Film Festival</a></li><li><a href="https://www.berlinale.de/">Berlin International Film Festival</a></li><li><a href="https://www.festival-cannes.com/en/">Cannes Film Festival</a></li><li><a href="https://www.traderjoes.com/home.html">Trader Joe’s</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Sarandos">Ted Sarandos</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reed_Hastings">Reed Hastings</a></li><li><a href="https://lorimorimoto.net/">Lori Morimoto</a></li><li><a href="https://www.newschool.edu/nssr/faculty/julia-sonnevend/">Julia Sonnevend</a></li><li><a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/world/asia/moo-deng-pygmy-hippo-birthday-viral-videos-thailand-zoo-rcna217195">Moo Deng</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narendra_Modi">Narendra Modi</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_Grylls">Bear Grylls</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Orb%C3%A1n">Victor Orban</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priyanka_Chopra">Priyanka Chopra</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0497631/?ref_=tt_cst_t_1">Lee Jung-jae</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quentin_Tarantino">Quentin Tarantino</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergio_Leone">Sergio Leone</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bong_Joon_Ho">Bong Joon Ho</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Chappelle">Dave Chappelle</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takashi_Miike">Takashi Miike</a></li></ul><p>Media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/">Netflix</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/storefront">Amazon Video</a></li><li><a href="https://www.hotstar.com/us">Disney+ Hotstar</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-pop">K-pop</a> (music genre)</li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106179/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_x-files">The X-Files</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0436992/">Doctor Who</a></li><li><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news">BBC</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0456165/?ref_=sr_t_6">Salaam Namaste</a></li><li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80214886?source=imdb&fromWatch=true">Paranormal</a></li><li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80025172">Narcos</a></li><li>Sacred Games [<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_Games_(novel)">book</a>, <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80115328">Netflix</a>]</li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1954470/">Gangs of Wasseypur</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangs_of_Wasseypur_2">Gangs of Wasseypur 2</a></li><li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80074220">3%</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0944947/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_game%2520of%2520thr">Game of Thrones</a></li><li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81040344">Squid Games</a></li><li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81498621">KPop Demon Hunters</a><ul><li><a href="https://www.hmart.com/shin-ramyun-kpop-demon-hunters-4-23-oz--120g-/p">Shin Ramyun Kpop Demon Hunters</a></li></ul></li><li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/82024852">Bon Appétit, Your Majesty</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118276/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_7_nm_1_in_0_q_Buffy%2520the%2520Vampire%2520Slayer">Buffy the Vampire Slayer</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scooby-Doo">Scooby Doo</a></li><li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81507921">Frankenstein </a>(2025)</li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0395057/">Winter Sonata</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0883772/">Man vs.Wild</a></li><li><a href="https://www.starwars.com/">Star Wars</a></li><li><a href="https://www.startrek.com/">Star Trek</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortal_Kombat">Mortal Kombat</a></li><li><a href="https://www.starwars.com/series/the-acolyte">The Acolyte </a></li><li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80120485">The Mechanism</a></li><li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80141788">Grillo Vs. Grillo</a></li><li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80239931">Patriot Act with Hasan Minhaj</a></li><li>Record of Ragnarok [<a href="https://www.viz.com/record-of-ragnarok">manga</a>, <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81281579">TV show</a>]</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnKwDtMguB4">Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade 2025 </a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt31691389/">Universal Language</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0906665/">Sukiyaki Western Django</a></li></ul>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Global Streaming Services and Cultural Power Relations: Bertha Chin &amp; Swapnil Rai</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:summary>Join professors Bertha Chin and Swapnil Rai as they take us through the world of transnational shows and global streaming platforms, asking questions regarding the development of these series and what they mean for international relations.</itunes:summary>
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      <title>Ethan Zuckerman</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we chat with <a href="https://ethanzuckerman.com/">Ethan Zuckerman</a>— a Public Policy, Communication and Information professor at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst— about his views on the present political climate and major movements occurring in reaction to the Trump administration. From the anti-ICE protests in Minneapolis to memes on the internet to the Boston Massacre, we discuss the various forms of resistance the public can perform in the face of adversity. Zuckerman also delves into the historization of mass movements and how their retellings, or lack thereof, can shape how we perform and learn about resistance. We end by circling back to a discussion of memes and AI as they influence how America views current events. Zuckerman leaves us wondering what America looks like and how the celebrations will roll out as we hit its 250th birthday in 2026.  In particular, we explore what monuments and memorials might look like if they emerged bottom-up from the people rather than top-down from government institutions.</p><p>  </p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Academic/Educational readings and resources:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.404media.co/ai-renee-good-kirkification-george-floyd-memes/">How Right Wing Influencers Used AI Slop to Turn Renee Good Into a Meme</a></li><li><a href="https://ethanzuckerman.com/2025/12/05/gramscis-nightmare-ai-platform-power-and-the-automation-of-cultural-hegemony/">Gramsci’s Nightmare: AI, Platform Power and the Automation of Cultural Hegemony</a></li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/mistrust-why-losing-faith-in-institutions-provides-the-tools-to-transform-them-ethan-zuckerman/b6beeacd22833cde?ean=9781324002604&next=t&next=t&source=IndieBound">Mistrust Why Losing Faith in Institutions Provides the Tools to Transform Them</a></li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/digital-cosmopolitans-why-we-think-the-internet-connects-us-why-it-doesn-t-and-how-to-rewire-it-ethan-zuckerman/77934d0a74b70858?ean=9780393350326&next=t&next=t&source=IndieBound">Digital Cosmopolitans Why We Think the Internet Connects Us, Why It Doesn't, and How to Rewire It</a></li><li><a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/1984-george-orwell/1100009100">1984</a></li></ul><p>Historical Events or Celebrations:</p><ul><li><a href="https://america250.org/">America’s 250th bicentennial</a></li><li><a href="https://www.masshist.org/revolution/teaparty.php">Boston Tea Party</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Massacre">Boston Massacre</a></li><li><a href="https://www.cinema.ucla.edu/collections/rodney-king-case-and-los-angeles-uprising">1992 Los Angeles riots</a>/<a href="https://www.pbs.org/video/riots-and-rebellions-rodney-king/"> Rodney King Riots</a></li><li><a href="https://watergate.info/">Watergate</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_Battalion">Lincoln Brigades </a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings">Kent State shootings</a></li></ul><p>People & Places:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62r4g590wqo">Alex Pretti</a></li><li><a href="https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/01/09/renee-goods-wife-releases-statement-about-ice-shooting">Renee Good</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodney_King">Rodney King</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd">George Floyd</a><ul><li><a href="https://www.minneapolis.org/support-black-lives/38th-and-chicago/">George Floyd Memorial</a></li></ul></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Eric_Garner">Eric Garner</a></li><li>Elon Musk</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Hamilton">Alexander Hamilton</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Gramsci">Antonio Gramsci</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jill_Lepore">Jill Lapore</a> –<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/These_Truths"> These Truths</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@heathercoxrichardson/videos">Heather Cox Richardson</a></li><li><a href="https://stonemountainpark.com/">Stone Mountain</a></li><li><a href="https://legacysites.eji.org/about/memorial/">National Memorial for Peace and Justice</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Innis%27s_communications_theories">Harold Innis: Marble vs. Papyrus</a></li><li><a href="https://archive.org/details/kentstatewhathap0000mich">James Mitchner on Kent State</a></li></ul><p>Media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Night_Thoreau_Spent_in_Jail">The Night Thoreau Spent in Jail</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1776">1776</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamilton_(musical)">Hamilton</a></li><li>Mary Tyler Moore Anti-ICE statue [<a href="https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:swcvvq65uhx3gmjk5a7cs74y/post/3md4qs4qhts2k">Link</a>]</li><li>JD Vance Couch Meme [<a href="https://www.npr.org/2024/07/31/nx-s1-5055854/vance-harris-social-media-rumors-jokes">News Link</a>]</li><li>US Tries to Take Greenland [<a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgezx40r7d7o">News link</a>]</li><li>White House posts digitally altered image of woman arrested after ICE protest [<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/22/white-house-ice-protest-arrest-altered-image">News link</a>]</li><li>Grok “Woke Bias” [<a href="https://thehill.com/opinion/lindseys-lens/5486475-musk-meddling-with-grok-ai-over-perceived-woke-bias/">News link</a>]</li><li>Trump White House “Walk of Fame” Plaques [<a href="https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-checking-trumps-plaques-for-past-presidents-at-the-white-house-walk-of-fame">News link</a>]</li></ul>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 4 Feb 2026 03:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Samantha Tecson, Henry Jenkins, Colin Maclay, Ethan Zuckerman)</author>
      <link>https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/?p=1430</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we chat with <a href="https://ethanzuckerman.com/">Ethan Zuckerman</a>— a Public Policy, Communication and Information professor at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst— about his views on the present political climate and major movements occurring in reaction to the Trump administration. From the anti-ICE protests in Minneapolis to memes on the internet to the Boston Massacre, we discuss the various forms of resistance the public can perform in the face of adversity. Zuckerman also delves into the historization of mass movements and how their retellings, or lack thereof, can shape how we perform and learn about resistance. We end by circling back to a discussion of memes and AI as they influence how America views current events. Zuckerman leaves us wondering what America looks like and how the celebrations will roll out as we hit its 250th birthday in 2026.  In particular, we explore what monuments and memorials might look like if they emerged bottom-up from the people rather than top-down from government institutions.</p><p>  </p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Academic/Educational readings and resources:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.404media.co/ai-renee-good-kirkification-george-floyd-memes/">How Right Wing Influencers Used AI Slop to Turn Renee Good Into a Meme</a></li><li><a href="https://ethanzuckerman.com/2025/12/05/gramscis-nightmare-ai-platform-power-and-the-automation-of-cultural-hegemony/">Gramsci’s Nightmare: AI, Platform Power and the Automation of Cultural Hegemony</a></li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/mistrust-why-losing-faith-in-institutions-provides-the-tools-to-transform-them-ethan-zuckerman/b6beeacd22833cde?ean=9781324002604&next=t&next=t&source=IndieBound">Mistrust Why Losing Faith in Institutions Provides the Tools to Transform Them</a></li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/digital-cosmopolitans-why-we-think-the-internet-connects-us-why-it-doesn-t-and-how-to-rewire-it-ethan-zuckerman/77934d0a74b70858?ean=9780393350326&next=t&next=t&source=IndieBound">Digital Cosmopolitans Why We Think the Internet Connects Us, Why It Doesn't, and How to Rewire It</a></li><li><a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/1984-george-orwell/1100009100">1984</a></li></ul><p>Historical Events or Celebrations:</p><ul><li><a href="https://america250.org/">America’s 250th bicentennial</a></li><li><a href="https://www.masshist.org/revolution/teaparty.php">Boston Tea Party</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Massacre">Boston Massacre</a></li><li><a href="https://www.cinema.ucla.edu/collections/rodney-king-case-and-los-angeles-uprising">1992 Los Angeles riots</a>/<a href="https://www.pbs.org/video/riots-and-rebellions-rodney-king/"> Rodney King Riots</a></li><li><a href="https://watergate.info/">Watergate</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_Battalion">Lincoln Brigades </a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings">Kent State shootings</a></li></ul><p>People & Places:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62r4g590wqo">Alex Pretti</a></li><li><a href="https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/01/09/renee-goods-wife-releases-statement-about-ice-shooting">Renee Good</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodney_King">Rodney King</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd">George Floyd</a><ul><li><a href="https://www.minneapolis.org/support-black-lives/38th-and-chicago/">George Floyd Memorial</a></li></ul></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Eric_Garner">Eric Garner</a></li><li>Elon Musk</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Hamilton">Alexander Hamilton</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Gramsci">Antonio Gramsci</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jill_Lepore">Jill Lapore</a> –<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/These_Truths"> These Truths</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@heathercoxrichardson/videos">Heather Cox Richardson</a></li><li><a href="https://stonemountainpark.com/">Stone Mountain</a></li><li><a href="https://legacysites.eji.org/about/memorial/">National Memorial for Peace and Justice</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Innis%27s_communications_theories">Harold Innis: Marble vs. Papyrus</a></li><li><a href="https://archive.org/details/kentstatewhathap0000mich">James Mitchner on Kent State</a></li></ul><p>Media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Night_Thoreau_Spent_in_Jail">The Night Thoreau Spent in Jail</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1776">1776</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamilton_(musical)">Hamilton</a></li><li>Mary Tyler Moore Anti-ICE statue [<a href="https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:swcvvq65uhx3gmjk5a7cs74y/post/3md4qs4qhts2k">Link</a>]</li><li>JD Vance Couch Meme [<a href="https://www.npr.org/2024/07/31/nx-s1-5055854/vance-harris-social-media-rumors-jokes">News Link</a>]</li><li>US Tries to Take Greenland [<a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgezx40r7d7o">News link</a>]</li><li>White House posts digitally altered image of woman arrested after ICE protest [<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/22/white-house-ice-protest-arrest-altered-image">News link</a>]</li><li>Grok “Woke Bias” [<a href="https://thehill.com/opinion/lindseys-lens/5486475-musk-meddling-with-grok-ai-over-perceived-woke-bias/">News link</a>]</li><li>Trump White House “Walk of Fame” Plaques [<a href="https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-checking-trumps-plaques-for-past-presidents-at-the-white-house-walk-of-fame">News link</a>]</li></ul>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Ethan Zuckerman</itunes:title>
      <itunes:author>Samantha Tecson, Henry Jenkins, Colin Maclay, Ethan Zuckerman</itunes:author>
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      <title>San Diego Comic-Con Histories and Educational Outreach with Mathew Klickstein and Emily Schindler</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, <a href="https://www.mathewklickstein.com/">Mathew Klickstein </a>, the host of <i>Comic-Con Begins</i>, and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/eschindler414">Emily Schindler</a>, Senior Director of Learning and Engagement at the Comic-Con Museum, educate us on the history of and learning opportunities at San Diego Comic-Con. Mathew discusses how Comic-Con formed and why he documents that history in his podcast and his book, <i>See You At San Diego: An Oral History of Comic-Con, Fandom, and the Triumph of Geek Culture</i>. Emily informs us about what is displayed at the Comic-Con Museum and the educational programs she runs. She describes the outreach and collaboration that happens between the museum and institutions around San Diego County. </p><p>At the heart of this conversation is the formation and nurturing of communities that occur because of Comic-Con. Mathew tackles this as a SDCC historian and Emily as an SDCC educator. By the end of the episode, we ask how the culture and construction of SDCC have changed since its inception. We also question what being part of the Comic-Con means and how it's preserved. </p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Academic/Educational readings and resources:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.fantagraphics.com/products/see-you-at-san-diego-an-oral-history-of-comic-con-fandom-and-the-triumph-of-geek-culture?srsltid=AfmBOopaHwpgP6iJnTy9IDKh7Wd_s-ABshF9y0OcfuWU_WbbgNWgrEBn">See You At San Diego: An Oral History of Comic-Con, Fandom, and the Triumph of Geek Culture</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Slimed-Oral-History-Nickelodeons-Golden/dp/0142196851">Slimed! An Oral History of Nickelodeon's Golden Age</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Anne-Frank-Diary-Young-Girl/dp/0553296981">Diary of Anne Frank</a></li><li><a href="https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300158649/fandom-unbound/">Fandom Unbound: Otaku Culture in a Connected World</a></li><li><a href="https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300158649/fandom-unbound/">Connected Learning Initiative</a></li><li><a href="https://www.rutgersuniversitypress.org/only-at-comic-con/9780813594705">Only at Comic-Con Hollywood, Fans, and the Limits of Exclusivity</a></li><li><a href="https://comiccon.sdsu.edu/index.html">Comic-Con Kids</a></li><li><a href="https://www.comic-con.org/museum/">Comic-Con Museum</a><ul><li>Comic-Con Museum Educational Access Program [<a href="https://www.comic-con.org/museum/education/education-access-program/">Link</a>]</li></ul></li><li><a href="https://comics.sdsu.edu/collections">San Diego State University Comic Collection </a></li><li><a href="https://comiccon.sdsu.edu/index.html">Comic-Con Kids</a></li></ul><p>People & Places:</p><ul><li><a href="https://comiccon.sdsu.edu/barry-alfonso.html">Barry Alfonso</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kirby">Jack Kirby</a></li><li><a href="https://therealstanlee.com/life-of-an-icon/celebrating-100-years-of-stan-lee/">Stan Lee</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Bradbury">Ray Bradbury</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0003162/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_0_nm_8_in_0_q_Mark%2520Summers">Marc Summers</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Miller">Atrhur Miller </a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0589182/">Rebecca Miller</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000217/?ref_=fn_t_1">Martin Scorsese</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000229/?ref_=fn_t_1">Steven Spielberg</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000184/?ref_=fn_t_1">George Lucas</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000338/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_6_nm_2_in_0_q_Francis%2520Ford%2520Coppola">Francis Ford Coppola</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000033/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_7_nm_1_in_0_q_Alfred%2520Hitchcock">Alfred Hitchcock</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000122/?ref_=fn_t_1">Charlie Chaplin</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0864138/">Phil Tippett</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000339/">Roger Corman</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studs_Terkel">Studs Terkel</a></li><li><a href="https://www.culturalequity.org/alan-lomax/about-alan">Alan Lomax</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0513640/">Charlie Lippencott</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000072/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_4_nm_4_in_0_q_Elizabeth%2520Taylor">Elizabeth Taylor</a></li><li><a href="https://mimiito.com/about/">Mizuko Ito</a></li><li><a href="https://ci.education.wisc.edu/fac-staff/halverson-erica/">Erica Halverson</a></li><li><a href="https://www.davidson.edu/people/cynthia-lewis">Cynthia Lewis</a></li><li><a href="https://www.informatics.uci.edu/explore/faculty-profiles/kurt-squire/">Kurt Squire</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0003620/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_1_tt_1_nm_6_in_0_q_kevin%2520smi">Kevin Smith</a></li><li><a href="https://library2.sdsu.edu/people/pamela-jackson">Pamela Jackson</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1041597/">Morgan Spurlock</a></li><li><a href="https://balboapark.org/">Balboa Park</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit_Triple_Fan_Fair">Detroit Triple Fan Fair</a></li><li><a href="https://www.lfjcc.org/">Lawrence Family Jewish Community Center</a></li><li><a href="https://www.festival-cannes.com/en/">Cannes Film Festival</a></li><li><a href="https://festival.sundance.org/">Sundance Film Festival </a></li><li><a href="https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=L&pf=1&ai=DChsSEwi12c2P45uSAxX-KUQIHcTWC58YACICCAEQARoCZHo&co=1&ase=2&gclid=CjwKCAiA7LzLBhAgEiwAjMWzCEccGsSzkoVqa69gRTcWbmrRsvrJysytYu0VlCKEaWMWSKah-YzxOhoCv_IQAvD_BwE&cid=CAASZuRoqytRLL1tI-N3p6vmFmn4QKzV8UBZ3IfFqNtfQHtGoyGzGSyMTFLmcF843OLfVlUMJr0XfRZoc0q2Ir68Q9WLnfj9Nc4ePG30idOymNbbX8-jYfj0CJ8e88Ng16ubRGkUZsVBhA&cce=2&category=acrcp_v1_32&sig=AOD64_0yM6qdbBbNHsWSr1Wuw0ypaQs6eg&q&nis=4&adurl=https://www.academymuseum.org/en?utm_source%3Dsem%26utm_campaign%3DSEM%26gad_source%3D1%26gad_campaignid%3D21794784375%26gbraid%3D0AAAAA-V33fq3Ek7dEPOzTSFwN524-Bjgr%26gclid%3DCjwKCAiA7LzLBhAgEiwAjMWzCEccGsSzkoVqa69gRTcWbmrRsvrJysytYu0VlCKEaWMWSKah-YzxOhoCv_IQAvD_BwE&ved=2ahUKEwjc0caP45uSAxUPIUQIHXHOMcAQ0Qx6BAgKEAE">The Academy Museum</a></li><li><a href="https://www.gallifreyone.com/">Gallifrey One</a></li><li><a href="https://www.comic-con.org/wc/">WonderCon</a></li></ul><p>Media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://comic-con-begins.simplecast.com/">Comic-Con Begins</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_Genesis">Sega Genesis</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TurboGrafx-16">TurboGrafx-16</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo_Geo">Neo Geo</a></li><li><a href="https://www.nick.com/">Nickelodeon</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0125616/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_Double%2520Dare">Double Dare</a></li><li><a href="https://www.foodnetwork.com/">Food Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.siriusxm.com/">SiriusXM</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_New_Wave">French New Wave</a></li><li><a href="https://www.starwars.com/">Star Wars</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107290/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_Jurassic%2520Park">Jurassic Park</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109770/">Fantastic Four</a> (Roger Corman)</li><li><a href="https://www.marvel.com/characters/spider-man-peter-parker">Spider-Man</a></li><li><a href="https://funko.com/">Funko</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Kong">King Kong</a></li><li><i>Mr. Scorsese</i> [<a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/mr-scorsese/umc.cmc.4a06j5lm5pxny9nx505zo5g0y">Apple TV</a>]</li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1605782/">Comic-Con: Episode IV - A Fans Hope</a></li><li><a href="https://www.doctorwho.tv/">Doctor Who</a></li><li><a href="https://www.bbc.com/">BBC</a></li><li><a href="https://www.dc.com/">DC Comics</a></li><li><a href="https://www.marvel.com/">Marvel</a></li><li><a href="https://about.mattel.com/">Mattel</a></li><li><a href="https://shop.hasbro.com/en-us">Hasbro</a></li><li><a href="https://www.warnerbros.com/brands/hanna-barbera">Hanna-Barbera</a></li><li><a href="https://www.harrypotter.com/">Harry Potter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.warnerbros.com/movies/lord-rings-fellowship-ring">Lord of the Rings</a></li><li><a href="https://godzilla.com/?srsltid=AfmBOorJiDgZ6kVVLKEd39xC02S8zsu73vhadfpiGUlOaVMVNUDWH04u">Godzilla</a></li><li><a href="https://www.pokemon.com/us">Pokemon</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094721/">Beetlejuice </a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075596/">Three's Company</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0844441/">True Blood</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0944947/">Game of Thrones</a></li><li><a href="https://sdccblog.com/">Unofficial Comic Con Blog</a></li></ul>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, <a href="https://www.mathewklickstein.com/">Mathew Klickstein </a>, the host of <i>Comic-Con Begins</i>, and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/eschindler414">Emily Schindler</a>, Senior Director of Learning and Engagement at the Comic-Con Museum, educate us on the history of and learning opportunities at San Diego Comic-Con. Mathew discusses how Comic-Con formed and why he documents that history in his podcast and his book, <i>See You At San Diego: An Oral History of Comic-Con, Fandom, and the Triumph of Geek Culture</i>. Emily informs us about what is displayed at the Comic-Con Museum and the educational programs she runs. She describes the outreach and collaboration that happens between the museum and institutions around San Diego County. </p><p>At the heart of this conversation is the formation and nurturing of communities that occur because of Comic-Con. Mathew tackles this as a SDCC historian and Emily as an SDCC educator. By the end of the episode, we ask how the culture and construction of SDCC have changed since its inception. We also question what being part of the Comic-Con means and how it's preserved. </p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Academic/Educational readings and resources:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.fantagraphics.com/products/see-you-at-san-diego-an-oral-history-of-comic-con-fandom-and-the-triumph-of-geek-culture?srsltid=AfmBOopaHwpgP6iJnTy9IDKh7Wd_s-ABshF9y0OcfuWU_WbbgNWgrEBn">See You At San Diego: An Oral History of Comic-Con, Fandom, and the Triumph of Geek Culture</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Slimed-Oral-History-Nickelodeons-Golden/dp/0142196851">Slimed! An Oral History of Nickelodeon's Golden Age</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Anne-Frank-Diary-Young-Girl/dp/0553296981">Diary of Anne Frank</a></li><li><a href="https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300158649/fandom-unbound/">Fandom Unbound: Otaku Culture in a Connected World</a></li><li><a href="https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300158649/fandom-unbound/">Connected Learning Initiative</a></li><li><a href="https://www.rutgersuniversitypress.org/only-at-comic-con/9780813594705">Only at Comic-Con Hollywood, Fans, and the Limits of Exclusivity</a></li><li><a href="https://comiccon.sdsu.edu/index.html">Comic-Con Kids</a></li><li><a href="https://www.comic-con.org/museum/">Comic-Con Museum</a><ul><li>Comic-Con Museum Educational Access Program [<a href="https://www.comic-con.org/museum/education/education-access-program/">Link</a>]</li></ul></li><li><a href="https://comics.sdsu.edu/collections">San Diego State University Comic Collection </a></li><li><a href="https://comiccon.sdsu.edu/index.html">Comic-Con Kids</a></li></ul><p>People & Places:</p><ul><li><a href="https://comiccon.sdsu.edu/barry-alfonso.html">Barry Alfonso</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kirby">Jack Kirby</a></li><li><a href="https://therealstanlee.com/life-of-an-icon/celebrating-100-years-of-stan-lee/">Stan Lee</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Bradbury">Ray Bradbury</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0003162/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_0_nm_8_in_0_q_Mark%2520Summers">Marc Summers</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Miller">Atrhur Miller </a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0589182/">Rebecca Miller</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000217/?ref_=fn_t_1">Martin Scorsese</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000229/?ref_=fn_t_1">Steven Spielberg</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000184/?ref_=fn_t_1">George Lucas</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000338/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_6_nm_2_in_0_q_Francis%2520Ford%2520Coppola">Francis Ford Coppola</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000033/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_7_nm_1_in_0_q_Alfred%2520Hitchcock">Alfred Hitchcock</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000122/?ref_=fn_t_1">Charlie Chaplin</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0864138/">Phil Tippett</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000339/">Roger Corman</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studs_Terkel">Studs Terkel</a></li><li><a href="https://www.culturalequity.org/alan-lomax/about-alan">Alan Lomax</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0513640/">Charlie Lippencott</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000072/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_4_nm_4_in_0_q_Elizabeth%2520Taylor">Elizabeth Taylor</a></li><li><a href="https://mimiito.com/about/">Mizuko Ito</a></li><li><a href="https://ci.education.wisc.edu/fac-staff/halverson-erica/">Erica Halverson</a></li><li><a href="https://www.davidson.edu/people/cynthia-lewis">Cynthia Lewis</a></li><li><a href="https://www.informatics.uci.edu/explore/faculty-profiles/kurt-squire/">Kurt Squire</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0003620/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_1_tt_1_nm_6_in_0_q_kevin%2520smi">Kevin Smith</a></li><li><a href="https://library2.sdsu.edu/people/pamela-jackson">Pamela Jackson</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1041597/">Morgan Spurlock</a></li><li><a href="https://balboapark.org/">Balboa Park</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit_Triple_Fan_Fair">Detroit Triple Fan Fair</a></li><li><a href="https://www.lfjcc.org/">Lawrence Family Jewish Community Center</a></li><li><a href="https://www.festival-cannes.com/en/">Cannes Film Festival</a></li><li><a href="https://festival.sundance.org/">Sundance Film Festival </a></li><li><a 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Begins</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_Genesis">Sega Genesis</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TurboGrafx-16">TurboGrafx-16</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo_Geo">Neo Geo</a></li><li><a href="https://www.nick.com/">Nickelodeon</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0125616/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_Double%2520Dare">Double Dare</a></li><li><a href="https://www.foodnetwork.com/">Food Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.siriusxm.com/">SiriusXM</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_New_Wave">French New Wave</a></li><li><a href="https://www.starwars.com/">Star Wars</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107290/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_Jurassic%2520Park">Jurassic Park</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109770/">Fantastic Four</a> (Roger Corman)</li><li><a href="https://www.marvel.com/characters/spider-man-peter-parker">Spider-Man</a></li><li><a href="https://funko.com/">Funko</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Kong">King Kong</a></li><li><i>Mr. Scorsese</i> [<a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/mr-scorsese/umc.cmc.4a06j5lm5pxny9nx505zo5g0y">Apple TV</a>]</li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1605782/">Comic-Con: Episode IV - A Fans Hope</a></li><li><a href="https://www.doctorwho.tv/">Doctor Who</a></li><li><a href="https://www.bbc.com/">BBC</a></li><li><a href="https://www.dc.com/">DC Comics</a></li><li><a href="https://www.marvel.com/">Marvel</a></li><li><a href="https://about.mattel.com/">Mattel</a></li><li><a href="https://shop.hasbro.com/en-us">Hasbro</a></li><li><a href="https://www.warnerbros.com/brands/hanna-barbera">Hanna-Barbera</a></li><li><a href="https://www.harrypotter.com/">Harry Potter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.warnerbros.com/movies/lord-rings-fellowship-ring">Lord of the Rings</a></li><li><a href="https://godzilla.com/?srsltid=AfmBOorJiDgZ6kVVLKEd39xC02S8zsu73vhadfpiGUlOaVMVNUDWH04u">Godzilla</a></li><li><a href="https://www.pokemon.com/us">Pokemon</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094721/">Beetlejuice </a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075596/">Three's Company</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0844441/">True Blood</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0944947/">Game of Thrones</a></li><li><a href="https://sdccblog.com/">Unofficial Comic Con Blog</a></li></ul>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Anime Cons and Comic-Con Activations with Melanie Kohnen &amp; Billy Austin Tringali</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we welcome <a href="https://college.lclark.edu/live/profiles/5858-melanie-kohnen">Melanie Kohnen</a>, an Associate Professor of Rhetoric and Media Studies for Lewis & Clark College, and <a href="https://billytringali.com/">Billy Austin Tringali</a>, an Instruction Librarian at the Indiana University Indianapolis and the founder and Editor-in-Chief of the J<i>ournal of Anime and Manga Studies</i> (JAMS), to discuss the culture and function of pop-culture conventions (“cons”). Melanie shares her research on the encroaching influence of media companies on spaces such as San Diego Comic-Con, especially as they literally extend their promotions to outside of the convention center. Meanwhile, Billy speaks about his work running the annual JAMS@AX Symposium at Anime Expo and his own research regarding animanga content. </p><p>This conversation examines the intersection of academia and non-academic spaces, like fan events, and how media businesses build relationships with their audiences. Melanie and Billy explore how both academics and con-goers can experience conventions as fans and build a sense of community at these pop-culture events. They offer various modes of experiencing conventions and ways of accessing fans as part of larger promotional content. From Japan to the US, Billy and Melanie show us that conventions are places of scholarly work, fun, and play!   </p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Academic Readings, Journals, and Resources:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.versobooks.com/products/1126-imagined-communities?srsltid=AfmBOop2RnvGqP_ZR6bzzu_fVSKeoyZSsJ2BTeqvaaHet_aQlTkvHwsg">Imagined Communities: Reflections on the Origin and Spread of Nationalism</a></li><li><a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1367877920935888?utm_source=researchgate.net&medium=article">“The experience economy of TV promotion at San Diego Comic-Con”</a></li><li><a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/14614448231165289">“From Comic-Con to Amazon: Fan conventions and digital platforms”</a></li><li><a href="https://iopn.library.illinois.edu/journals/jams">Journal of Anime and Manga Studies (JAMS)</a><ul><li><a href="https://www.anime-expo.org/activity/academic-program/">JAMS@AX</a></li></ul></li><li><a href="https://www.mechademia.net/">Mechademia</a></li><li><a href="https://www.animemangastudies.com/">Anime and Manga Studies</a></li><li><a href="https://roccetlab.ca/projects/swarming-sdcc/">Swarming SDCC</a></li><li><a href="https://mangainlibraries.com/">Manga in Libraries</a></li><li>Anime Con search website [<a href="https://animecons.com/">link</a>]</li><li><a href="https://henryjenkins.org/blog/2012/07/performing_our_collective_drea.html">Henry’s “Performing Our Collective Dreams: The Many Worlds of San Diego Comic-Con”</a></li><li><a href="https://henryjenkins.org/blog/2025/6/29/frames-of-fandom-an-interview-on-fandom-as-audience-part-one">Henry’s Frames of Fandom book series</a></li></ul><p>People and Places:</p><ul><li><a href="https://moody.utexas.edu/profiles/dr-suzanne-scott">Dr. Suzanne Scott</a></li><li><a href="https://www.ala.org/winner/jillian-rudes">Jillian Rudes</a></li><li><a href="https://ischool.illinois.edu/people/maria-bonn">Maria Bonn</a></li><li><a href="https://www.mcad.edu/faculty/frenchy-lunning">Frenchy Lunning</a></li><li><a href="https://mariakalberto.space/">Maria K. Alberto</a></li><li><a href="https://www.ucdenver.edu/offices/faculty-affairs/faculty-leadership-opportunities/women's-leadership-program/cohorts/Waggoner-Emilie-UCD6002639841">Emilie Waggoner</a></li><li><a href="https://www.lancaster.ac.uk/research/research-enterprise-services/res-staff-directory/zoe-crombie">Dr Zoe Crombie</a></li><li><a href="https://www.odu.edu/directory/theodore-gournelos">Theodore Gournelos</a></li><li>Dr. Roman Gomez <ul><li>Physics of Anime lecture [<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQb7hMQ3ODE">video</a>]</li></ul></li><li><a href="https://zdcusc.wordpress.com/janine-sun/">Janine Sun</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_Herzog">Werner Herzog</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benedict_Anderson">Benedict Anderson</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0614682/">Ryan Murphy</a></li><li><a href="https://www.anime-expo.org/">Anime Expo</a></li><li><a href="https://www.comic-con.org/">San Diego Comic-Con</a></li><li><a href="https://www.comic-con.org/wc">Wonder Con</a></li><li><a href="https://www.dragoncon.org/">Dragon Con</a></li><li><a href="https://kingstonma.gov/779/Library">Kingston Public Library</a></li><li><a href="https://www.comiku.com/index.html">Comiku Girls</a></li><li><a href="https://www.animeboston.com/">Anime Boston</a><ul><li>Boston Cosplay Human Death Match [<a href="https://www.animeboston.com/activities/death_match">link</a>, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Gx5Znk392I">video</a>]</li></ul></li><li><a href="https://sandiegohistory.org/journal/2020/october/petco-park-a-ballpark-san-diego-style/">Petco Park </a></li><li><a href="https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/18/us/tumblr-dashcon-social-media-2010s-cec">Dashcon</a></li><li><a href="https://rosecitycomiccon.com/">Rose City Comic Con</a></li><li><a href="https://www.gallifreyone.com/">Gallifrey One</a></li><li><a href="https://www.mtgfestivals.com/global/en-us.html">MagicCon</a></li></ul><p>Media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14218830/">Abbott Elementary </a><ul><li><a href="https://www.kpbs.org/events/ongoing/abbott-elementary-a-very-abbott-block-party">SDCC 2025 Abbott Elementary Block Party</a></li></ul></li><li>Pokémon [<a href="https://www.pokemon.com/us">website</a>, <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0168366/">anime</a>]</li><li>Yu-Gi-Oh [<a href="https://www.yugioh-card.com/en/">card game</a>, <a href="https://yugioh.com/shows">anime</a>]</li><li><a href="https://en.dragon-ball-official.com/">Dragon Ball</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_Without_Pity">Television Without Pity</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0347149/">Howl’s Moving Castle</a></li><li><a href="https://demonslayer-anime.com/">Demon Slayer</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0214382/">Walking with Dinosaurs</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13146488/">Peacemaker</a><ul><li>Peacefest SDCC 2025 [<a href="https://sdccblog.com/events-default/peacemaker-peacefest/">link</a>, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3cUKH-OKj8">video</a>]</li></ul></li><li><a href="https://www.hbomax.com/">HBO Max</a></li><li><a href="https://tubitv.com/">Tubi</a></li><li><a href="https://pluto.tv/">Pluto TV</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0491738/">Psych</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1327801/">Glee</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073629/">Rocky Horror Picture Show</a></li><li><a href="https://www.playstation.com/en-us/">Playstation</a></li><li><a href="https://www.mortalkombat.com/">Mortal Kombat 1</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4955642/">The Good Place</a><ul><li>SDCC Panel 2018 [<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EipUYrcGCzc">video</a>]</li></ul></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4477976/">Superstore</a><ul><li>SDCC Panel 2019 [<a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCye9JdxRcg_tuKmI-7BJMEn6ZChF14yF&si=u1yvMVe_X-LUeecc">video list]</a></li></ul></li><li><a href="https://magic.wizards.com/en">Magic the Gathering</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0417299/">Avatar: The Last Airbender</a></li><li><a href="https://www.crunchyroll.com/?srsltid=AfmBOoo2wj3k4o1UMMtLPb4Vm-KmFXsNqi4Z2ty8FNGKhN-6qNYdXWKY">Crunchyroll</a></li><li><a href="https://tohoanimation.jp/portal/">Toho Animation</a></li><li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81564899">Delicious in Dungeon</a></li><li><a href="https://www.dndbeyond.com/?srsltid=AfmBOoqN1Q631eznUuJEcPG9__yPwWgCVa2_Ofyf_j-FL86YxBDOMaGI">Dungeons and Dragons</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058817/">Kimba the White Lion</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0185133/">Yu Yu Hakusho</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11198330/">House of the Dragon</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Who">Dr. Who</a></li></ul>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2025 23:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Melanie Kohnen, Billy Austin Tringali, Henry Jenkins, Samantha Tecson, Colin Maclay)</author>
      <link>https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/?p=1422</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we welcome <a href="https://college.lclark.edu/live/profiles/5858-melanie-kohnen">Melanie Kohnen</a>, an Associate Professor of Rhetoric and Media Studies for Lewis & Clark College, and <a href="https://billytringali.com/">Billy Austin Tringali</a>, an Instruction Librarian at the Indiana University Indianapolis and the founder and Editor-in-Chief of the J<i>ournal of Anime and Manga Studies</i> (JAMS), to discuss the culture and function of pop-culture conventions (“cons”). Melanie shares her research on the encroaching influence of media companies on spaces such as San Diego Comic-Con, especially as they literally extend their promotions to outside of the convention center. Meanwhile, Billy speaks about his work running the annual JAMS@AX Symposium at Anime Expo and his own research regarding animanga content. </p><p>This conversation examines the intersection of academia and non-academic spaces, like fan events, and how media businesses build relationships with their audiences. Melanie and Billy explore how both academics and con-goers can experience conventions as fans and build a sense of community at these pop-culture events. They offer various modes of experiencing conventions and ways of accessing fans as part of larger promotional content. From Japan to the US, Billy and Melanie show us that conventions are places of scholarly work, fun, and play!   </p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Academic Readings, Journals, and Resources:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.versobooks.com/products/1126-imagined-communities?srsltid=AfmBOop2RnvGqP_ZR6bzzu_fVSKeoyZSsJ2BTeqvaaHet_aQlTkvHwsg">Imagined Communities: Reflections on the Origin and Spread of Nationalism</a></li><li><a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1367877920935888?utm_source=researchgate.net&medium=article">“The experience economy of TV promotion at San Diego Comic-Con”</a></li><li><a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/14614448231165289">“From Comic-Con to Amazon: Fan conventions and digital platforms”</a></li><li><a href="https://iopn.library.illinois.edu/journals/jams">Journal of Anime and Manga Studies (JAMS)</a><ul><li><a href="https://www.anime-expo.org/activity/academic-program/">JAMS@AX</a></li></ul></li><li><a href="https://www.mechademia.net/">Mechademia</a></li><li><a href="https://www.animemangastudies.com/">Anime and Manga Studies</a></li><li><a href="https://roccetlab.ca/projects/swarming-sdcc/">Swarming SDCC</a></li><li><a href="https://mangainlibraries.com/">Manga in Libraries</a></li><li>Anime Con search website [<a href="https://animecons.com/">link</a>]</li><li><a href="https://henryjenkins.org/blog/2012/07/performing_our_collective_drea.html">Henry’s “Performing Our Collective Dreams: The Many Worlds of San Diego Comic-Con”</a></li><li><a href="https://henryjenkins.org/blog/2025/6/29/frames-of-fandom-an-interview-on-fandom-as-audience-part-one">Henry’s Frames of Fandom book series</a></li></ul><p>People and Places:</p><ul><li><a href="https://moody.utexas.edu/profiles/dr-suzanne-scott">Dr. Suzanne Scott</a></li><li><a href="https://www.ala.org/winner/jillian-rudes">Jillian Rudes</a></li><li><a href="https://ischool.illinois.edu/people/maria-bonn">Maria Bonn</a></li><li><a href="https://www.mcad.edu/faculty/frenchy-lunning">Frenchy Lunning</a></li><li><a href="https://mariakalberto.space/">Maria K. Alberto</a></li><li><a href="https://www.ucdenver.edu/offices/faculty-affairs/faculty-leadership-opportunities/women's-leadership-program/cohorts/Waggoner-Emilie-UCD6002639841">Emilie Waggoner</a></li><li><a href="https://www.lancaster.ac.uk/research/research-enterprise-services/res-staff-directory/zoe-crombie">Dr Zoe Crombie</a></li><li><a href="https://www.odu.edu/directory/theodore-gournelos">Theodore Gournelos</a></li><li>Dr. Roman Gomez <ul><li>Physics of Anime lecture [<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQb7hMQ3ODE">video</a>]</li></ul></li><li><a href="https://zdcusc.wordpress.com/janine-sun/">Janine Sun</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_Herzog">Werner Herzog</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benedict_Anderson">Benedict Anderson</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0614682/">Ryan Murphy</a></li><li><a href="https://www.anime-expo.org/">Anime Expo</a></li><li><a href="https://www.comic-con.org/">San Diego Comic-Con</a></li><li><a href="https://www.comic-con.org/wc">Wonder Con</a></li><li><a href="https://www.dragoncon.org/">Dragon Con</a></li><li><a href="https://kingstonma.gov/779/Library">Kingston Public Library</a></li><li><a href="https://www.comiku.com/index.html">Comiku Girls</a></li><li><a href="https://www.animeboston.com/">Anime Boston</a><ul><li>Boston Cosplay Human Death Match [<a href="https://www.animeboston.com/activities/death_match">link</a>, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Gx5Znk392I">video</a>]</li></ul></li><li><a href="https://sandiegohistory.org/journal/2020/october/petco-park-a-ballpark-san-diego-style/">Petco Park </a></li><li><a href="https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/18/us/tumblr-dashcon-social-media-2010s-cec">Dashcon</a></li><li><a href="https://rosecitycomiccon.com/">Rose City Comic Con</a></li><li><a href="https://www.gallifreyone.com/">Gallifrey One</a></li><li><a href="https://www.mtgfestivals.com/global/en-us.html">MagicCon</a></li></ul><p>Media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14218830/">Abbott Elementary </a><ul><li><a href="https://www.kpbs.org/events/ongoing/abbott-elementary-a-very-abbott-block-party">SDCC 2025 Abbott Elementary Block Party</a></li></ul></li><li>Pokémon [<a href="https://www.pokemon.com/us">website</a>, <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0168366/">anime</a>]</li><li>Yu-Gi-Oh [<a href="https://www.yugioh-card.com/en/">card game</a>, <a href="https://yugioh.com/shows">anime</a>]</li><li><a href="https://en.dragon-ball-official.com/">Dragon Ball</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_Without_Pity">Television Without Pity</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0347149/">Howl’s Moving Castle</a></li><li><a href="https://demonslayer-anime.com/">Demon Slayer</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0214382/">Walking with Dinosaurs</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13146488/">Peacemaker</a><ul><li>Peacefest SDCC 2025 [<a href="https://sdccblog.com/events-default/peacemaker-peacefest/">link</a>, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3cUKH-OKj8">video</a>]</li></ul></li><li><a href="https://www.hbomax.com/">HBO Max</a></li><li><a href="https://tubitv.com/">Tubi</a></li><li><a href="https://pluto.tv/">Pluto TV</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0491738/">Psych</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1327801/">Glee</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073629/">Rocky Horror Picture Show</a></li><li><a href="https://www.playstation.com/en-us/">Playstation</a></li><li><a href="https://www.mortalkombat.com/">Mortal Kombat 1</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4955642/">The Good Place</a><ul><li>SDCC Panel 2018 [<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EipUYrcGCzc">video</a>]</li></ul></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4477976/">Superstore</a><ul><li>SDCC Panel 2019 [<a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCye9JdxRcg_tuKmI-7BJMEn6ZChF14yF&si=u1yvMVe_X-LUeecc">video list]</a></li></ul></li><li><a href="https://magic.wizards.com/en">Magic the Gathering</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0417299/">Avatar: The Last Airbender</a></li><li><a href="https://www.crunchyroll.com/?srsltid=AfmBOoo2wj3k4o1UMMtLPb4Vm-KmFXsNqi4Z2ty8FNGKhN-6qNYdXWKY">Crunchyroll</a></li><li><a href="https://tohoanimation.jp/portal/">Toho Animation</a></li><li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81564899">Delicious in Dungeon</a></li><li><a href="https://www.dndbeyond.com/?srsltid=AfmBOoqN1Q631eznUuJEcPG9__yPwWgCVa2_Ofyf_j-FL86YxBDOMaGI">Dungeons and Dragons</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058817/">Kimba the White Lion</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0185133/">Yu Yu Hakusho</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11198330/">House of the Dragon</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Who">Dr. Who</a></li></ul>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Professor <a href="https://ttf.sdsu.edu/people/hu-brian">Brian Hu</a> from SDSU helps us tackle the world of Asian and Asian American cinema as they travel throughout various locales. Hu’s position as a film scholar and Artistic Director of the San Diego Asian Film Festival leads us through conversations about how people connect with and discover Asian culture. We touch on how regionality and heritage influence people’s interactions with Asian and Asian American media. We also discuss the shifting definitions of Asian American and how that plays out in AAPI/AANHPI film festival creation. Hu guides us through the process of film curation and circulation at AAPI/AANHPI film festivals. In the end, we ask Hu what to look forward to for the upcoming 2025 SDAFF on November 6-15.  Our discussion with Hu leaves us wondering what the future holds for Asian and Asian American media as global industries become more invested in Asian works like K-pop, anime, and Labubus.  </p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Academic Readings:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/worldly-desires/6B35B8D15EE73B0B6FAE71344476E995">Worldly Desires: Cosmopolitanism and Cinema in Hong Kong and Taiwan</a></li><li><a href="https://www.udel.edu/academics/colleges/cas/units/departments/english/our-people/peter-feng/">Identities in Motion: Asian American Film and Video</a></li><li><a href="https://www.rutgersuniversitypress.org/making-asian-american-film-and-video/9780813565019/">Making Asian American Film and Video History, Institutions, Movements</a></li><li><a href="https://mcfarlandbooks.com/product/The-Disney+-Kingdom/?srsltid=AfmBOooFSk5kX10OTNeZrtF9BU7VGDkJXlmmuljENuDu3nb9zDe62nv7">Doogie Kameāloha, M.D.: Gen Z to AAPI Direct Marketing and Its Effects on Native Hawaiians (chapter) </a></li><li><a href="https://www.degruyterbrill.com/document/doi/10.18574/nyu/9780814743690.003.0010/html?lang=en&srsltid=AfmBOoqQQPl3hsJvS9TUcd6EH1Rv4Mrert5mHKEDZiEHia6upVhIr3qJ">Pop Cosmopolitanism: Mapping Cultural Flows in an Age of Media Convergence (chapter)</a></li></ul><p>Names and Locations:</p><ul><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payal_Kapadia_(filmmaker)">Payal Kapadia</a></li><li><a href="https://www.womenshistory.org/education-resources/biographies/anna-may-wong">Anna May Wong</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Kwan">Nancy Kwan</a></li><li><a href="https://ggfdn.org/lisa-lu-honored-with-star-on-hollywood-walk-of-fame-at-98/">Lisa Lu</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Shigeta">James Shigeta</a></li><li><a href="https://www.udel.edu/academics/colleges/cas/units/departments/english/our-people/peter-feng/">Peter X Feng</a></li><li><a href="https://emerson.edu/faculty-staff-directory/jun-okada">Jun Okada</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000247/">John Woo</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002364/">Dante Bosco</a></li><li><a href="https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=0nAeASgAAAAJ&hl=en">Ingyu Oh</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0196654/?ref_=fn_all_nme_1">Daniel Dae Kim</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000045/?ref_=fn_all_nme_1">Bruce Lee</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000329/?ref_=fn_all_nme_1">Jackie Chan</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0594503/">Hayao Miyazaki</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_Ghibli">Studio Ghibli</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0464804/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_4_tt_4_nm_2_in_1_q_sat">Satoshi Kon</a></li><li><a href="https://kprofiles.com/big-bang-members-profile/">Big Bang</a> (group)</li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000487/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_6_nm_2_in_0_q_ang%2520lee">Ang Lee</a></li><li><a href="http://www.seafoodcity.com/">Seafood City</a></li></ul><p>Film Festivals:</p><ul><li><a href="https://sdaff.org/">San Diego Asian Film Festival</a></li><li><a href="https://vcmedia.org/festival">Los Angeles Asian Pacific Film Festival</a></li><li><a href="https://cinecon.org/">Cinecon</a></li><li><a href="https://www.festival-cannes.com/en/">Festival de Cannes</a></li><li><a href="https://www.biff.kr/">Busan Film Festival</a></li><li><a href="https://www.goldenhorse.org.tw/?r=en">Golden Horse Film Festival</a></li><li><a href="https://silentfilm.org/festival-2025/">San Francisco Silent Film Festival </a></li><li><a href="https://www.berlinale.de/">Berlin Film Festival</a></li></ul><p>Movies, Shows, and Media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14812784/">A Night of Knowing Nothing</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt23289160/">Godzilla Minus One</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9653184/">Ulan</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104684/">Hard Boiled</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054885/">Flower Drum Song</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt32086077/">All We Imagine As Light</a></li><li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81191389">Ne Zha</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt34956443/">Ne Zha 2</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10554898/">The Untamed </a>(TV Series)</li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110912/">Pulp Fiction </a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083728/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_chan%2520is%2520missing">Chan is Missing</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Butterfly-Season-1/dp/B0F3X963KJ">Butterfly</a> (TV Series)</li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0163745/">The Debut</a></li><li><a href="https://ultra.fandom.com/wiki/Ultraman_Series">Ultraman</a> series</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@GundamInfo">Gundam series</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10810850/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_7_nm_1_in_0_q_fabulous%2520fili">The Fabulous Filipino Brothers</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superstore_(TV_series)">Superstore</a> (TV Series)</li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063172/">Destroy All Monsters</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0133093/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_7_nm_1_in_0_q_the%2520matrix">The Matrix</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107282/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_4_nm_2_in_0_q_the%2520joy%2520luck%2520club">Joy Luck Club</a></li><li><a href="https://mytfc.com/">TFC</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt30476486/">Haikyu!! The Dumpster Battle</a></li><li><a href="https://www.crunchyroll.com/?srsltid=AfmBOorDdoHGgVDTrQfkRgviK7D3oIHanI1sDkeGVyWFg6-hZu4jQBmt">Crunchyroll</a></li><li><a href="https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/flying-with-delta-crunchyroll-anime-is-coming-to-your-flights/">Crunchyroll partners with Delta Airlines</a></li><li><a href="https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/just-according-to-keikaku">Just According to Keikaku meme</a></li><li><a href="https://naruto-official.com/en">Naruto</a> (<a href="https://www.crunchyroll.com/series/GY9PJ5KWR/naruto?srsltid=AfmBOoqDqQNJAFIr1Ns4qeXtNu0-FciDPL6RgTBXVqZYNLZEJEfQbAp2">anime</a>, <a href="https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/chapters/naruto">manga</a>)</li><li><a href="https://animalcrossing.nintendo.com/new-horizons/">Animal Crossing </a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3104988/">Crazy Rich Asians</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt31193180/?ref_=fn_all_ttl_1">Sinners</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106179/?ref_=fn_all_ttl_2">X-Files</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0291350/?ref_=nm_flmg_job_1_accord_2_cdt_t_6">Millenium Actress</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0156887/?ref_=nm_flmg_job_1_accord_2_cdt_t_7">Perfect Blue</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0388473/?ref_=nm_flmg_job_1_accord_2_cdt_t_5">Tokyo Godfathers</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt32820897/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_3_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_demon%2520slayer">Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba- The Movie - Infinity Castle</a></li><li><a href="https://deadline.com/2025/09/box-office-demon-slayer-infinity-castle-conjuring-long-walk-1236529652/">Demon Slayer Infinity Castle US Box Office </a></li><li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81498621?source=imdb&fromWatch=true">KPop Demon Hunters</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096283/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_my%2520n">My Neighbor Totoro</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6587046/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_6_nm_2_in_0_q_boy%2520and%2520the%2520hero">The Boy and the Heron</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6751668/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_parasite">Parasite</a></li><li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81040344">Squid Games</a></li><li><a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=tiktok&oq=tiktok&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQABiPAjIHCAIQABiPAjIGCAMQRRg8MgYIBBBFGDzSAQgyOTcxajBqNKgCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8">TikTok</a></li><li><a href="https://www.criterionchannel.com/browse">Criterion Channel </a><ul><li><a href="https://www.criterionchannel.com/hong-kong-action-classics">Hong Kong Action Classics</a></li></ul></li><li><a href="https://www.criterionchannel.com/asian-american-80s">Criterion Channel Asian American 80’s</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/Criterion/status/1516128051821748224">Criterion Channel Asian American Filmmaking 2000-2009</a> (<a href="https://letterboxd.com/bennettr99/list/criterion-channel-asian-american-filmmaking/">user list of films from collection</a>)</li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088247/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_1_tt_7_nm_0_in_0_q_terminator">Terminator</a></li><li><a href="https://www.007.com/">James Bond</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14039582/">Drive My Car</a></li></ul>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
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      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Samantha Tecson, Brian Hu, Henry Jenkins)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Professor <a href="https://ttf.sdsu.edu/people/hu-brian">Brian Hu</a> from SDSU helps us tackle the world of Asian and Asian American cinema as they travel throughout various locales. Hu’s position as a film scholar and Artistic Director of the San Diego Asian Film Festival leads us through conversations about how people connect with and discover Asian culture. We touch on how regionality and heritage influence people’s interactions with Asian and Asian American media. We also discuss the shifting definitions of Asian American and how that plays out in AAPI/AANHPI film festival creation. Hu guides us through the process of film curation and circulation at AAPI/AANHPI film festivals. In the end, we ask Hu what to look forward to for the upcoming 2025 SDAFF on November 6-15.  Our discussion with Hu leaves us wondering what the future holds for Asian and Asian American media as global industries become more invested in Asian works like K-pop, anime, and Labubus.  </p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Academic Readings:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/worldly-desires/6B35B8D15EE73B0B6FAE71344476E995">Worldly Desires: Cosmopolitanism and Cinema in Hong Kong and Taiwan</a></li><li><a href="https://www.udel.edu/academics/colleges/cas/units/departments/english/our-people/peter-feng/">Identities in Motion: Asian American Film and Video</a></li><li><a href="https://www.rutgersuniversitypress.org/making-asian-american-film-and-video/9780813565019/">Making Asian American Film and Video History, Institutions, Movements</a></li><li><a href="https://mcfarlandbooks.com/product/The-Disney+-Kingdom/?srsltid=AfmBOooFSk5kX10OTNeZrtF9BU7VGDkJXlmmuljENuDu3nb9zDe62nv7">Doogie Kameāloha, M.D.: Gen Z to AAPI Direct Marketing and Its Effects on Native Hawaiians (chapter) </a></li><li><a href="https://www.degruyterbrill.com/document/doi/10.18574/nyu/9780814743690.003.0010/html?lang=en&srsltid=AfmBOoqQQPl3hsJvS9TUcd6EH1Rv4Mrert5mHKEDZiEHia6upVhIr3qJ">Pop Cosmopolitanism: Mapping Cultural Flows in an Age of Media Convergence (chapter)</a></li></ul><p>Names and Locations:</p><ul><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payal_Kapadia_(filmmaker)">Payal Kapadia</a></li><li><a href="https://www.womenshistory.org/education-resources/biographies/anna-may-wong">Anna May Wong</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Kwan">Nancy Kwan</a></li><li><a href="https://ggfdn.org/lisa-lu-honored-with-star-on-hollywood-walk-of-fame-at-98/">Lisa Lu</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Shigeta">James Shigeta</a></li><li><a href="https://www.udel.edu/academics/colleges/cas/units/departments/english/our-people/peter-feng/">Peter X Feng</a></li><li><a href="https://emerson.edu/faculty-staff-directory/jun-okada">Jun Okada</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000247/">John Woo</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002364/">Dante Bosco</a></li><li><a href="https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=0nAeASgAAAAJ&hl=en">Ingyu Oh</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0196654/?ref_=fn_all_nme_1">Daniel Dae Kim</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000045/?ref_=fn_all_nme_1">Bruce Lee</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000329/?ref_=fn_all_nme_1">Jackie Chan</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0594503/">Hayao Miyazaki</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_Ghibli">Studio Ghibli</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0464804/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_4_tt_4_nm_2_in_1_q_sat">Satoshi Kon</a></li><li><a href="https://kprofiles.com/big-bang-members-profile/">Big Bang</a> (group)</li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000487/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_6_nm_2_in_0_q_ang%2520lee">Ang Lee</a></li><li><a href="http://www.seafoodcity.com/">Seafood City</a></li></ul><p>Film Festivals:</p><ul><li><a href="https://sdaff.org/">San Diego Asian Film Festival</a></li><li><a href="https://vcmedia.org/festival">Los Angeles Asian Pacific Film Festival</a></li><li><a href="https://cinecon.org/">Cinecon</a></li><li><a href="https://www.festival-cannes.com/en/">Festival de Cannes</a></li><li><a href="https://www.biff.kr/">Busan Film Festival</a></li><li><a href="https://www.goldenhorse.org.tw/?r=en">Golden Horse Film Festival</a></li><li><a href="https://silentfilm.org/festival-2025/">San Francisco Silent Film Festival </a></li><li><a href="https://www.berlinale.de/">Berlin Film Festival</a></li></ul><p>Movies, Shows, and Media:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14812784/">A Night of Knowing Nothing</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt23289160/">Godzilla Minus One</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9653184/">Ulan</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104684/">Hard Boiled</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054885/">Flower Drum Song</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt32086077/">All We Imagine As Light</a></li><li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81191389">Ne Zha</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt34956443/">Ne Zha 2</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10554898/">The Untamed </a>(TV Series)</li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110912/">Pulp Fiction </a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083728/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_chan%2520is%2520missing">Chan is Missing</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Butterfly-Season-1/dp/B0F3X963KJ">Butterfly</a> (TV Series)</li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0163745/">The Debut</a></li><li><a href="https://ultra.fandom.com/wiki/Ultraman_Series">Ultraman</a> series</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@GundamInfo">Gundam series</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10810850/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_7_nm_1_in_0_q_fabulous%2520fili">The Fabulous Filipino Brothers</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superstore_(TV_series)">Superstore</a> (TV Series)</li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063172/">Destroy All Monsters</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0133093/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_7_nm_1_in_0_q_the%2520matrix">The Matrix</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107282/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_4_nm_2_in_0_q_the%2520joy%2520luck%2520club">Joy Luck Club</a></li><li><a href="https://mytfc.com/">TFC</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt30476486/">Haikyu!! The Dumpster Battle</a></li><li><a href="https://www.crunchyroll.com/?srsltid=AfmBOorDdoHGgVDTrQfkRgviK7D3oIHanI1sDkeGVyWFg6-hZu4jQBmt">Crunchyroll</a></li><li><a href="https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/flying-with-delta-crunchyroll-anime-is-coming-to-your-flights/">Crunchyroll partners with Delta Airlines</a></li><li><a href="https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/just-according-to-keikaku">Just According to Keikaku meme</a></li><li><a href="https://naruto-official.com/en">Naruto</a> (<a href="https://www.crunchyroll.com/series/GY9PJ5KWR/naruto?srsltid=AfmBOoqDqQNJAFIr1Ns4qeXtNu0-FciDPL6RgTBXVqZYNLZEJEfQbAp2">anime</a>, <a href="https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/chapters/naruto">manga</a>)</li><li><a href="https://animalcrossing.nintendo.com/new-horizons/">Animal Crossing </a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3104988/">Crazy Rich Asians</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt31193180/?ref_=fn_all_ttl_1">Sinners</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106179/?ref_=fn_all_ttl_2">X-Files</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0291350/?ref_=nm_flmg_job_1_accord_2_cdt_t_6">Millenium Actress</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0156887/?ref_=nm_flmg_job_1_accord_2_cdt_t_7">Perfect Blue</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0388473/?ref_=nm_flmg_job_1_accord_2_cdt_t_5">Tokyo Godfathers</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt32820897/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_3_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_demon%2520slayer">Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba- The Movie - Infinity Castle</a></li><li><a href="https://deadline.com/2025/09/box-office-demon-slayer-infinity-castle-conjuring-long-walk-1236529652/">Demon Slayer Infinity Castle US Box Office </a></li><li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81498621?source=imdb&fromWatch=true">KPop Demon Hunters</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096283/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_my%2520n">My Neighbor Totoro</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6587046/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_6_nm_2_in_0_q_boy%2520and%2520the%2520hero">The Boy and the Heron</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6751668/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_parasite">Parasite</a></li><li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81040344">Squid Games</a></li><li><a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=tiktok&oq=tiktok&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQABiPAjIHCAIQABiPAjIGCAMQRRg8MgYIBBBFGDzSAQgyOTcxajBqNKgCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8">TikTok</a></li><li><a href="https://www.criterionchannel.com/browse">Criterion Channel </a><ul><li><a href="https://www.criterionchannel.com/hong-kong-action-classics">Hong Kong Action Classics</a></li></ul></li><li><a href="https://www.criterionchannel.com/asian-american-80s">Criterion Channel Asian American 80’s</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/Criterion/status/1516128051821748224">Criterion Channel Asian American Filmmaking 2000-2009</a> (<a href="https://letterboxd.com/bennettr99/list/criterion-channel-asian-american-filmmaking/">user list of films from collection</a>)</li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088247/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_1_tt_7_nm_0_in_0_q_terminator">Terminator</a></li><li><a href="https://www.007.com/">James Bond</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14039582/">Drive My Car</a></li></ul>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Latina Girlhoods, Baby Boomer Boyhoods, and Children&apos;s Media with Diana Leon-Boys</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we chat with <a href="https://commarts.wisc.edu/staff/leon-boys-diana/">Diana Leon-Boys</a>— Assistant Professor of Media and Cultural Studies at the University of Wisconsin-Madison’s Department of Communication Arts—about her lifelong work examining the navigation of girlhood through a Latinx lens. Her book<i> Elena, Princesa of the Periphery: Disney’s Flexible Latina Girl</i> extends conversations about minority representation and the complex relationship it has with child development. We host a dialogue between Diana’s research and Henry’s observations about boyhood in his book <i>Where the Wild Things Were: Boyhood and Permissive Parenting in Postwar America</i>. We discuss how both scholars pull from their own personal experiences growing up in America and how they interacted with their childhood media. </p><p>We explore how the proliferation and production of children's and family media shape ideas of adolescence. Diana and Henry relate this back to their roles as parents within an ever-evolving media landscape where funding for educational children’s content is dwindling. They further discuss how representation within media has changed over time and minority groups’ relation to it. This is where Diana brings in her newer projects about depictions of Quinceañeras and Día de los Muertos in TV and films. We are left to ask what the politics of childhood are and what reforms can be done with current children’s media.</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><strong>Academic Texts</strong></p><p>Diana Leon-Boys:</p><p><a href="https://www.rutgersuniversitypress.org/elena-princesa-of-the-periphery/9781978830172/">Elena, Princesa of the Periphery: Disney’s Flexible Latina Girl</a></p><p><a href="https://www.press.uillinois.edu/books/?id=c049699">Quinceañeras: Latinidades and Girlhood in Popular Culture</a></p><p>Henry Jenkins:</p><p><a href="https://nyupress.org/9781479831890/where-the-wild-things-were/">Where the Wild Things Were: Boyhood and Permissive Parenting in Postwar America</a></p><p><a href="https://nyupress.org/9780814742327/the-childrens-culture-reader/">The Children’s Culture Reader</a></p><p><a href="https://henryjenkins.org/blog/2021/2/21/just-a-spoonful-of-sugar-permissive-childrearing-and-walt-disneys-mary-poppins-part-one">“Just a Spoonful of Sugar: Permissive Child-Rearing and Walt Disney’s Mary Poppins”</a></p><p><a href="https://henryjenkins.org/blog/2025/3/20/preview-of-henry-jenkins-new-book-where-the-wild-things-were-part-two">“‘You’ve Got to Be Carefully Taught’: The Whiteness of Permissive Culture”</a></p><p><a href="https://news.mit.edu/2007/iap-seuss#:~:text=Ruth%20Walker%2C%20News%20Office%20Correspondent,hearts%20of%20the%20MIT%20community.">MIT Salute to Doctor Seuss</a></p><p><a href="https://laurakitty.substack.com/p/henry-jenkins">Interview about the book</a></p><p><strong>Others:</strong></p><p><a href="https://archive.org/details/centuriesofchild00arie">Centuries of Childhood: A Social History of Family Life</a></p><p><a href="https://www.rutgersuniversitypress.org/kids-in-the-middle/9780813562186/">Kids in the Middle: How Children of Immigrants Negotiate Community Interactions for Their Families</a></p><p><a href="https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/edit/10.4324/9780367748586-3/latina-representations-media-stephanie-p%C3%A9rez-angharad-valdivia">Latina Teenhood: Intersectionalizing subjectivities in the post-network era.</a></p><p><a href="https://online.ucpress.edu/as/article-abstract/64/5/842/202995/Crafting-Public-OpinionThe-Effectiveness-of-China?redirectedFrom=fulltext">Crafting Public Opinion: The Effectiveness of China’s Media Control Policies under Xi Jinping</a></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Made-Play-House-Commercialization-1830-1930/dp/0801860628">Made to Play House</a>: <a href="https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300207583/made-to-play-house/">Dolls and the Commercialization of American Girlhood, 1830-1930</a></p><p> </p><p><strong>Advice Books:</strong></p><p><a href="https://archive.org/details/b32732570">The Common Sense Book of Baby and Child Care</a></p><p><a href="https://archive.org/details/daretodiscipline0000dobs_u9w2">Dare to Discipline </a></p><p> </p><p><strong>People, Places, Toys, and Holidays</strong></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippe_Ari%C3%A8s">Philippe Ariès</a></p><p><a href="https://www.chapman.edu/our-faculty/vikki-katz.aspx">Dr. Vikki Katz</a></p><p><a href="https://www.pbs.org/newshour/arts/what-is-dia-de-los-muertos-an-expert-explains-the-holiday-celebrating-loved-ones-who-have-died">Día de los Muertos</a></p><p><a href="https://www.britannica.com/topic/quinceanera">Quinceañeras</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Spock">Benjamin Spock</a></p><p><a href="https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/mead/mead-shaping.html">Margaret Mead</a></p><p><a href="https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/march-2/dr-seuss-born">Dr. Seuss</a></p><p><a href="https://www.misterrogers.org/about-fred-rogers/">Fred Rogers</a></p><p><a href="https://media.illinois.edu/stephanie-perez/">Stephanie Pérez</a></p><p><a href="https://www.americangirl.com/pages/girl-of-the-year-2026-raquel?utm_source=Google-Ads&utm_medium=Paid-Search-Conversion&utm_campaign=Mattel-US-NA-National-American-Girl-AG-Girl-of-The-Year-ALWAYS-ON-Paid-Search-Search:-Performance-Max-N/A-Conversion-Collectors-English-N/A-2025-Full-Year-GOTY-&utm_term=Multi&utm_content=2026-GOTY-N/A&utm_medium=paid-search&utm_source=GOOGLE&utm_campaign=MTL_US_NAD_NAT_AG_AGGOTY_GOTY_GA_PLA_PLA_CONV_MULTI_PRO_ENGL_NA_NA_2024_FY_GOTY_AG2500018&utm_content=&utm_keyword=&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=20214928548&gbraid=0AAAAAD_P1DceM4A8UQRvJ2zmrQEvvxWJW&gclid=CjwKCAjwxfjGBhAUEiwAKWPwDsWgnJQMrrtHH9JM5HvsURHzEpbkStvFWy4aebOV6-ar33stqbckKRoCVf0QAvD_BwE">Raquel Reyes</a> [American Girl Doll]</p><p><a href="https://www.americangirl.com/collections/samantha">Samantha Parkington</a> [Doll]</p><p><a href="https://www.kennedy-center.org/artists/a/aa-an/julie-andrews/">Julie Andrews</a></p><p><a href="https://www.waltdisney.org/walt-disney">Walt Disney</a></p><p><a href="https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChsSEwj0odCrgoWQAxU3OEQIHReQCA0YACICCAEQBhoCZHo&ae=2&aspm=1&co=1&ase=2&gclid=CjwKCAjwxfjGBhAUEiwAKWPwDu1gxbL35dpp6kjZQzPZw3HKB3PDqrdUdlLRAxUtzw0G3h54mAm6uxoC_ZEQAvD_BwE&cid=CAASQ-RoB_7Ek5HQC02JE-F_Wjrf7Sudfwqt0rmUmqr66_vv616rGjiNUvVrwM3mFqZ3DavSgmDxSMXniC5QBYzEDcfmEPA&cce=2&category=acrcp_v1_35&sig=AOD64_1iYhuPCv6FAsm-_Dx0RX82tUQFRw&q&nis=4&adurl&ved=2ahUKEwiVh8qrgoWQAxULN0QIHR_EJeoQ0Qx6BAgHEAE">Disneyland</a> and <a href="https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChsSEwj0ttm7goWQAxUsIEQIHbl9CAgYACICCAEQAhoCZHo&ae=2&aspm=1&co=1&ase=2&gclid=CjwKCAjwxfjGBhAUEiwAKWPwDpNXix7dQsd5M2DFePInp3cc_MzCm-2W4V3RaFLAwbabIXkajjVOTRoCRIEQAvD_BwE&cid=CAASQ-Ro3t9ouViMudWM1R7Dq3qw9v-QZaP1tn4gYeFuujsCSq2-DWUpD1zNEdgJOU1FG1ok112bnchlaxDd52KAPGDiBEA&cce=2&category=acrcp_v1_35&sig=AOD64_1R-KRyVIxZdQdo7Xz35mIh6XV37g&q&nis=4&adurl&ved=2ahUKEwjZqtO7goWQAxVmIkQIHdLBE9cQ0Qx6BAgeEAE">Disney World</a></p><p><a href="https://www.womenshistory.org/articles/history-paper-dolls-and-popular-culture">Paper Dolls</a></p><p><a href="https://www.fdrlibrary.org/fdr-biography">FDR</a></p><p><a href="https://www.simplypsychology.org/sigmund-freud.html">Sigmund Freud</a></p><p> </p><p><strong>Shows, Films, and Other Media</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090500/">Pee-wee’s PlayHouse</a></p><p>Dennis the Menace [<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052461/">59-63’ show</a>, <a href="https://archive.org/details/DennisSunday121353/Dennis%20Sunday%2001-18-53.jpg">Comics</a>]</p><p><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050032/">Leave It To Beaver</a></p><p><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086687/?ref_=fn_all_ttl_1">The Cosby Show</a></p><p>One Piece [<a href="https://www.crunchyroll.com/series/GRMG8ZQZR/one-piece?srsltid=AfmBOooqIsdshTsR6t5owp4kg8UEo2f9btw-llIaTf-r51NycZ7htG1a">Anime</a>, <a href="https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/chapters/one-piece">Manga</a>, <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80217863">Live Action</a>]</p><p><a href="https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChsSEwizq5PT_4SQAxVCN0QIHYrHJ5EYACICCAEQABoCZHo&ae=2&co=1&ase=2&gclid=CjwKCAjwxfjGBhAUEiwAKWPwDmjURdopfpW40x60rFBTMrxtoAotgbGPUHWDPwmao9QSHIWtukXYbhoCalcQAvD_BwE&cid=CAASQ-RoKjKMhlAIsbklV_xAe7yjKWAV4W_pRMyNs1SVehow1HtWbEJ1AM9Vv6cTrRnIWvwNVT4ZcdGoP0NjQOMMnlzWTKA&cce=2&category=acrcp_v1_71&sig=AOD64_32ydVCjRhCc_ndgd4NwlqXDjZlSA&q&nis=4&adurl&ved=2ahUKEwiG3I3T_4SQAxXAle4BHQeMIDEQ0Qx6BAgMEAE">Disney+</a></p><p><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2953050/?ref_=fn_all_ttl_1">Encanto</a></p><p><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2380307/?ref_=fn_all_ttl_1">Coco</a></p><p>Snow White [<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0029583/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_6_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_snow%2520white">Animated</a>, <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6208148/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_snow%2520white">Live Action</a>]</p><p>Little Mermaid [<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103477/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_6_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_little%2520mermaid">Animated</a>, <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5971474/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_7_nm_1_in_0_q_little%2520me">Live Action</a>]</p><p>Chinese State Media sounded like Fox Media</p><p><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3748528/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_rogue%2520one">Rogue One</a></p><p><a href="https://www.sesamestreet.org/">Sesame Street</a></p><p><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11987198/">Gordita Chronicles</a></p><p><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81267239">Baker and the Beauty</a></p><p><a href="https://www.bluey.tv/">Bluey</a></p><p><a href="https://www.imdb.com/list/ls540660492/">Descendants film franchise</a></p><p><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80117809">On My Block</a></p><p><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81231974">Wednesday</a></p><p><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058331/?ref_=fn_all_ttl_1">Mary Poppins</a></p><p><a href="https://www.imdb.com/es/title/tt0036326/">Saludos Amigos</a></p><p><a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/entertainment/article/harry-potter-movies-in-order/">Harry Potter film series</a></p><p><a href="https://www.paramountplus.com/shows/dora-the-explorer/">Dora The Explorer </a></p><p><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0045464/">The 5000 Fingers of Dr. T.</a></p><p><a href="https://www.dc.com/mad">Mad Magazine </a></p><p><a href="https://www.classicsillustratedbooks.com/">Classic Illustrated</a></p><p><a href="https://www.gabbysdollhouse.com/">Gabby’s Dollhouse</a></p><p>Quinceañeras episodes</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/es/title/tt8063484/">Super Sweet 16</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1075287/">Wizards of Waverly Place</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1907949/">Dora the Explorer </a></li></ul><p> </p><p><strong>News</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-signs-bill-canceling-9-billion-in-foreign-aid-and-public-broadcasting-funding">Defunding of PBS </a></p><p><a href="https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/amberjamieson/these-teens-wore-quinceanera-dresses-to-protest-an">Quinceañeras in Protest</a></p><p><a href="https://theconversation.com/from-anime-to-activism-how-the-one-piece-pirate-flag-became-the-global-emblem-of-gen-z-resistance-265526">One Piece Flags in Indonesia</a></p>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 3 Oct 2025 21:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Diana Leon-Boys, Colin Maclay, Henry Jenkins)</author>
      <link>https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/?p=1414</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we chat with <a href="https://commarts.wisc.edu/staff/leon-boys-diana/">Diana Leon-Boys</a>— Assistant Professor of Media and Cultural Studies at the University of Wisconsin-Madison’s Department of Communication Arts—about her lifelong work examining the navigation of girlhood through a Latinx lens. Her book<i> Elena, Princesa of the Periphery: Disney’s Flexible Latina Girl</i> extends conversations about minority representation and the complex relationship it has with child development. We host a dialogue between Diana’s research and Henry’s observations about boyhood in his book <i>Where the Wild Things Were: Boyhood and Permissive Parenting in Postwar America</i>. We discuss how both scholars pull from their own personal experiences growing up in America and how they interacted with their childhood media. </p><p>We explore how the proliferation and production of children's and family media shape ideas of adolescence. Diana and Henry relate this back to their roles as parents within an ever-evolving media landscape where funding for educational children’s content is dwindling. They further discuss how representation within media has changed over time and minority groups’ relation to it. This is where Diana brings in her newer projects about depictions of Quinceañeras and Día de los Muertos in TV and films. We are left to ask what the politics of childhood are and what reforms can be done with current children’s media.</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><strong>Academic Texts</strong></p><p>Diana Leon-Boys:</p><p><a href="https://www.rutgersuniversitypress.org/elena-princesa-of-the-periphery/9781978830172/">Elena, Princesa of the Periphery: Disney’s Flexible Latina Girl</a></p><p><a href="https://www.press.uillinois.edu/books/?id=c049699">Quinceañeras: Latinidades and Girlhood in Popular Culture</a></p><p>Henry Jenkins:</p><p><a href="https://nyupress.org/9781479831890/where-the-wild-things-were/">Where the Wild Things Were: Boyhood and Permissive Parenting in Postwar America</a></p><p><a href="https://nyupress.org/9780814742327/the-childrens-culture-reader/">The Children’s Culture Reader</a></p><p><a href="https://henryjenkins.org/blog/2021/2/21/just-a-spoonful-of-sugar-permissive-childrearing-and-walt-disneys-mary-poppins-part-one">“Just a Spoonful of Sugar: Permissive Child-Rearing and Walt Disney’s Mary Poppins”</a></p><p><a href="https://henryjenkins.org/blog/2025/3/20/preview-of-henry-jenkins-new-book-where-the-wild-things-were-part-two">“‘You’ve Got to Be Carefully Taught’: The Whiteness of Permissive Culture”</a></p><p><a href="https://news.mit.edu/2007/iap-seuss#:~:text=Ruth%20Walker%2C%20News%20Office%20Correspondent,hearts%20of%20the%20MIT%20community.">MIT Salute to Doctor Seuss</a></p><p><a href="https://laurakitty.substack.com/p/henry-jenkins">Interview about the book</a></p><p><strong>Others:</strong></p><p><a href="https://archive.org/details/centuriesofchild00arie">Centuries of Childhood: A Social History of Family Life</a></p><p><a href="https://www.rutgersuniversitypress.org/kids-in-the-middle/9780813562186/">Kids in the Middle: How Children of Immigrants Negotiate Community Interactions for Their Families</a></p><p><a href="https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/edit/10.4324/9780367748586-3/latina-representations-media-stephanie-p%C3%A9rez-angharad-valdivia">Latina Teenhood: Intersectionalizing subjectivities in the post-network era.</a></p><p><a href="https://online.ucpress.edu/as/article-abstract/64/5/842/202995/Crafting-Public-OpinionThe-Effectiveness-of-China?redirectedFrom=fulltext">Crafting Public Opinion: The Effectiveness of China’s Media Control Policies under Xi Jinping</a></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Made-Play-House-Commercialization-1830-1930/dp/0801860628">Made to Play House</a>: <a href="https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300207583/made-to-play-house/">Dolls and the Commercialization of American Girlhood, 1830-1930</a></p><p> </p><p><strong>Advice Books:</strong></p><p><a href="https://archive.org/details/b32732570">The Common Sense Book of Baby and Child Care</a></p><p><a href="https://archive.org/details/daretodiscipline0000dobs_u9w2">Dare to Discipline </a></p><p> </p><p><strong>People, Places, Toys, and Holidays</strong></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippe_Ari%C3%A8s">Philippe Ariès</a></p><p><a href="https://www.chapman.edu/our-faculty/vikki-katz.aspx">Dr. Vikki Katz</a></p><p><a href="https://www.pbs.org/newshour/arts/what-is-dia-de-los-muertos-an-expert-explains-the-holiday-celebrating-loved-ones-who-have-died">Día de los Muertos</a></p><p><a href="https://www.britannica.com/topic/quinceanera">Quinceañeras</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Spock">Benjamin Spock</a></p><p><a href="https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/mead/mead-shaping.html">Margaret Mead</a></p><p><a href="https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/march-2/dr-seuss-born">Dr. Seuss</a></p><p><a href="https://www.misterrogers.org/about-fred-rogers/">Fred Rogers</a></p><p><a href="https://media.illinois.edu/stephanie-perez/">Stephanie Pérez</a></p><p><a href="https://www.americangirl.com/pages/girl-of-the-year-2026-raquel?utm_source=Google-Ads&utm_medium=Paid-Search-Conversion&utm_campaign=Mattel-US-NA-National-American-Girl-AG-Girl-of-The-Year-ALWAYS-ON-Paid-Search-Search:-Performance-Max-N/A-Conversion-Collectors-English-N/A-2025-Full-Year-GOTY-&utm_term=Multi&utm_content=2026-GOTY-N/A&utm_medium=paid-search&utm_source=GOOGLE&utm_campaign=MTL_US_NAD_NAT_AG_AGGOTY_GOTY_GA_PLA_PLA_CONV_MULTI_PRO_ENGL_NA_NA_2024_FY_GOTY_AG2500018&utm_content=&utm_keyword=&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=20214928548&gbraid=0AAAAAD_P1DceM4A8UQRvJ2zmrQEvvxWJW&gclid=CjwKCAjwxfjGBhAUEiwAKWPwDsWgnJQMrrtHH9JM5HvsURHzEpbkStvFWy4aebOV6-ar33stqbckKRoCVf0QAvD_BwE">Raquel Reyes</a> [American Girl Doll]</p><p><a href="https://www.americangirl.com/collections/samantha">Samantha Parkington</a> [Doll]</p><p><a href="https://www.kennedy-center.org/artists/a/aa-an/julie-andrews/">Julie Andrews</a></p><p><a href="https://www.waltdisney.org/walt-disney">Walt Disney</a></p><p><a href="https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChsSEwj0odCrgoWQAxU3OEQIHReQCA0YACICCAEQBhoCZHo&ae=2&aspm=1&co=1&ase=2&gclid=CjwKCAjwxfjGBhAUEiwAKWPwDu1gxbL35dpp6kjZQzPZw3HKB3PDqrdUdlLRAxUtzw0G3h54mAm6uxoC_ZEQAvD_BwE&cid=CAASQ-RoB_7Ek5HQC02JE-F_Wjrf7Sudfwqt0rmUmqr66_vv616rGjiNUvVrwM3mFqZ3DavSgmDxSMXniC5QBYzEDcfmEPA&cce=2&category=acrcp_v1_35&sig=AOD64_1iYhuPCv6FAsm-_Dx0RX82tUQFRw&q&nis=4&adurl&ved=2ahUKEwiVh8qrgoWQAxULN0QIHR_EJeoQ0Qx6BAgHEAE">Disneyland</a> and <a href="https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChsSEwj0ttm7goWQAxUsIEQIHbl9CAgYACICCAEQAhoCZHo&ae=2&aspm=1&co=1&ase=2&gclid=CjwKCAjwxfjGBhAUEiwAKWPwDpNXix7dQsd5M2DFePInp3cc_MzCm-2W4V3RaFLAwbabIXkajjVOTRoCRIEQAvD_BwE&cid=CAASQ-Ro3t9ouViMudWM1R7Dq3qw9v-QZaP1tn4gYeFuujsCSq2-DWUpD1zNEdgJOU1FG1ok112bnchlaxDd52KAPGDiBEA&cce=2&category=acrcp_v1_35&sig=AOD64_1R-KRyVIxZdQdo7Xz35mIh6XV37g&q&nis=4&adurl&ved=2ahUKEwjZqtO7goWQAxVmIkQIHdLBE9cQ0Qx6BAgeEAE">Disney World</a></p><p><a href="https://www.womenshistory.org/articles/history-paper-dolls-and-popular-culture">Paper Dolls</a></p><p><a href="https://www.fdrlibrary.org/fdr-biography">FDR</a></p><p><a href="https://www.simplypsychology.org/sigmund-freud.html">Sigmund Freud</a></p><p> </p><p><strong>Shows, Films, and Other Media</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090500/">Pee-wee’s PlayHouse</a></p><p>Dennis the Menace [<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052461/">59-63’ show</a>, <a href="https://archive.org/details/DennisSunday121353/Dennis%20Sunday%2001-18-53.jpg">Comics</a>]</p><p><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050032/">Leave It To Beaver</a></p><p><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086687/?ref_=fn_all_ttl_1">The Cosby Show</a></p><p>One Piece [<a href="https://www.crunchyroll.com/series/GRMG8ZQZR/one-piece?srsltid=AfmBOooqIsdshTsR6t5owp4kg8UEo2f9btw-llIaTf-r51NycZ7htG1a">Anime</a>, <a href="https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/chapters/one-piece">Manga</a>, <a 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href="https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-signs-bill-canceling-9-billion-in-foreign-aid-and-public-broadcasting-funding">Defunding of PBS </a></p><p><a href="https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/amberjamieson/these-teens-wore-quinceanera-dresses-to-protest-an">Quinceañeras in Protest</a></p><p><a href="https://theconversation.com/from-anime-to-activism-how-the-one-piece-pirate-flag-became-the-global-emblem-of-gen-z-resistance-265526">One Piece Flags in Indonesia</a></p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.netakv.com/">Neta Kligler-Vilenchik</a>— Associate Professor of Communication and Journalism at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem— and <a href="https://ioanaliterat.com/">Ioana Literat</a>— Associate Professor of Communication, Media, and Learning Technologies Design at Columbia University— discuss their book, <i>Not Your Parents' Politics: Understanding Young People's Political Expression on Social Media</i>. They create a dialogue around the ways young people engage with politics using social media, noting the differences between platforms and regions. Kligler-Vilenchik and Literat tie this into the 2016 and 2024 election cycles, along with international bureaucratic frictions.</p><p>Both scholars tell us about their growing research on youth cultures’ interactions with politics and how those have shifted over time. They cover how younger people are often involved in politics, whether it be via fandom or other forms of civic imagination. They end by suggesting that these intersections between the younger generations and politics can be optimistically inspiring.  </p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Academic Texts</p><p>Not Your Parents' Politics: Understanding Young People's Political Expression on Social Media </p><p>[<a href="https://academic.oup.com/book/58641">Oxford</a>, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Your-Parents-Politics-Understanding-Communication/dp/0197795161">Amazon</a>]</p><p>By Any Media Necessary The New Youth Activism [<a href="https://nyupress.org/9781479899982/by-any-media-necessary/">NYU Press,</a> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Any-Media-Necessary-Activism-Connected/dp/1479899984">Amazon</a>] </p><p>Fan activism and the Harry Potter Alliance [<a href="https://journal.transformativeworks.org/index.php/twc/article/view/305/259">TWC</a>]</p><p>The Image War Moves to TikTok Evidence from the May 2021 Round of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict [<a href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/21670811.2023.2291650">Taylor & Francis Online</a>]</p><p>Dynamics of scale shift: Contentious places and hybrid activism on social media [<a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/14614448241247314">Sage Journal</a>]</p><p>People Mentioned</p><p>Joe Rogan</p><p>Kamala Harris</p><p>Donald Trump</p><p>Barrack Obama</p><p>Hillary Clinton</p><p>Xi Jinping</p><p><a href="https://pelosi.house.gov/">Nancy Pelosi</a></p><p><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1150439/">Alexandra Pelosi</a></p><p><a href="https://marchforourlives.org/leadership/david-hogg/">David Hogg</a></p><p><a href="https://lillian-boxman-shabtai.huji.ac.il/">Lillian (Lilly) Boxman-Shabtai</a></p><p>Taylor Swift</p><p><a href="https://en.communication.huji.ac.il/people/dr-keren-tenenboim-weinblatt?ref_tid=6565">Keren Tenenboim- Weinblatt</a></p><p>TV, Films, and Other Media</p><p>Captain America [<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0458339/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_3_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_captain%2520america">IMDB</a>]</p><p>Harry Potter [<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0241527/?ref_=fn_all_ttl_2">IMDB</a>]</p><p>Donald Trump Speech LipSync [<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvxj5gWah_E&pp=0gcJCfwAo7VqN5tD">YouTube link</a>]</p><p>Extra Fun Tidbits + News</p><p>Civic Paths [<a href="https://civicpaths.uscannenberg.org/">Website Link]</a></p><p>Scratch Online Coding Community [<a href="https://scratch.mit.edu/">MIT Site link</a>]</p><p>Fandom Forward [<a href="https://linktr.ee/fandomforward">Link</a>]</p><p>Little Pinks [<a href="https://insidestory.org.au/little-pinks-and-their-achy-breaky-hearts/">Article Link</a>]</p><p>South Korea President Removed From Power [<a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz01mjv0v0go">Article Link</a>]</p><p>Romanian TikTok Election Scandal [<a href="https://www.bbc.com/articles/cqx41x3gn5zo">BBC Link</a>]</p><p>Teen Activism Against School Shooting After Parkland [<a href="https://www.pbs.org/newshour/classroom/classroom-voices/student-voices/2021/12/how-teens-want-to-solve-americas-school-shooting-problem">PBS Link</a>]</p><p>Slacktivisim [<a href="https://www.govocal.com/blog/civic-engagement-slacktivism">Article Link</a>]</p><p>Henry Jenkins on Emma Gonzale’s Jacket and youth activism [<a href="https://bjwa.brown.edu/25-1/on-emma-gonzalezs-jacket-and-other-media-the-participatory-politics-of-the-neveragain-movement/">Brown Journal of Public Affairs</a>]</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.netakv.com/">Neta Kligler-Vilenchik</a>— Associate Professor of Communication and Journalism at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem— and <a href="https://ioanaliterat.com/">Ioana Literat</a>— Associate Professor of Communication, Media, and Learning Technologies Design at Columbia University— discuss their book, <i>Not Your Parents' Politics: Understanding Young People's Political Expression on Social Media</i>. They create a dialogue around the ways young people engage with politics using social media, noting the differences between platforms and regions. Kligler-Vilenchik and Literat tie this into the 2016 and 2024 election cycles, along with international bureaucratic frictions.</p><p>Both scholars tell us about their growing research on youth cultures’ interactions with politics and how those have shifted over time. They cover how younger people are often involved in politics, whether it be via fandom or other forms of civic imagination. They end by suggesting that these intersections between the younger generations and politics can be optimistically inspiring.  </p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Academic Texts</p><p>Not Your Parents' Politics: Understanding Young People's Political Expression on Social Media </p><p>[<a href="https://academic.oup.com/book/58641">Oxford</a>, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Your-Parents-Politics-Understanding-Communication/dp/0197795161">Amazon</a>]</p><p>By Any Media Necessary The New Youth Activism [<a href="https://nyupress.org/9781479899982/by-any-media-necessary/">NYU Press,</a> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Any-Media-Necessary-Activism-Connected/dp/1479899984">Amazon</a>] </p><p>Fan activism and the Harry Potter Alliance [<a href="https://journal.transformativeworks.org/index.php/twc/article/view/305/259">TWC</a>]</p><p>The Image War Moves to TikTok Evidence from the May 2021 Round of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict [<a href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/21670811.2023.2291650">Taylor & Francis Online</a>]</p><p>Dynamics of scale shift: Contentious places and hybrid activism on social media [<a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/14614448241247314">Sage Journal</a>]</p><p>People Mentioned</p><p>Joe Rogan</p><p>Kamala Harris</p><p>Donald Trump</p><p>Barrack Obama</p><p>Hillary Clinton</p><p>Xi Jinping</p><p><a href="https://pelosi.house.gov/">Nancy Pelosi</a></p><p><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1150439/">Alexandra Pelosi</a></p><p><a href="https://marchforourlives.org/leadership/david-hogg/">David Hogg</a></p><p><a href="https://lillian-boxman-shabtai.huji.ac.il/">Lillian (Lilly) Boxman-Shabtai</a></p><p>Taylor Swift</p><p><a href="https://en.communication.huji.ac.il/people/dr-keren-tenenboim-weinblatt?ref_tid=6565">Keren Tenenboim- Weinblatt</a></p><p>TV, Films, and Other Media</p><p>Captain America [<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0458339/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_3_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_captain%2520america">IMDB</a>]</p><p>Harry Potter [<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0241527/?ref_=fn_all_ttl_2">IMDB</a>]</p><p>Donald Trump Speech LipSync [<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvxj5gWah_E&pp=0gcJCfwAo7VqN5tD">YouTube link</a>]</p><p>Extra Fun Tidbits + News</p><p>Civic Paths [<a href="https://civicpaths.uscannenberg.org/">Website Link]</a></p><p>Scratch Online Coding Community [<a href="https://scratch.mit.edu/">MIT Site link</a>]</p><p>Fandom Forward [<a href="https://linktr.ee/fandomforward">Link</a>]</p><p>Little Pinks [<a href="https://insidestory.org.au/little-pinks-and-their-achy-breaky-hearts/">Article Link</a>]</p><p>South Korea President Removed From Power [<a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz01mjv0v0go">Article Link</a>]</p><p>Romanian TikTok Election Scandal [<a href="https://www.bbc.com/articles/cqx41x3gn5zo">BBC Link</a>]</p><p>Teen Activism Against School Shooting After Parkland [<a href="https://www.pbs.org/newshour/classroom/classroom-voices/student-voices/2021/12/how-teens-want-to-solve-americas-school-shooting-problem">PBS Link</a>]</p><p>Slacktivisim [<a href="https://www.govocal.com/blog/civic-engagement-slacktivism">Article Link</a>]</p><p>Henry Jenkins on Emma Gonzale’s Jacket and youth activism [<a href="https://bjwa.brown.edu/25-1/on-emma-gonzalezs-jacket-and-other-media-the-participatory-politics-of-the-neveragain-movement/">Brown Journal of Public Affairs</a>]</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Abigail De Kosnik and Jinyi Li on how fandom helps connect us in troubling times</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we welcome Abigail De Kosnik, an Associate Professor and Director of the Berkeley Center for New Media and the founder of <a href="https://www.fanlink.club/"><i>Fan Link</i></a>, and Jinyi Li, the technology chief of <i>Fan Link</i>, to discuss their groundbreaking platform connecting fandoms with education and activism. Abigail shares how <i>Fan Link</i> fosters media, racial, and gender literacy through creative fan-driven projects and real-world action, empowering fans to make a difference.</p><p>The conversation also examines the differing fandom strategies used by Democrats and Republicans in the recent election. Abigail and Jingyi explore how fan communities can influence political narratives and inspire collective action, offering a unique perspective on the intersection of fandom and politics.</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>About our guest:</p><p><a href="https://vcresearch.berkeley.edu/faculty/abigail-de-kosnik">Abigail De Kosnik | Research UC Berkeley</a></p><p><a href="https://bcnm.berkeley.edu/news-research/6087/abigail-de-kosnik-introduces-fanlink">Abigail De Kosnik Introduces Fanlink - News/Research - Berkeley Center for New Media</a></p><p><a href="https://bcnm.berkeley.edu/events/4223/conference/4194/fandom-piracy-fandom-race-panel">Fandom + Piracy: Fandom & Race Panel - Events - Berkeley Center for New Media</a></p><p> </p><p>Interesting Facts and Fan Events mentioned:</p><p><a href="https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/movies/a40794876/batgirl-hbo-movie-cancelled/">Leslie Grace Says the 'Batgirl' Cancellation Felt 'Like Deflating a Balloon'</a></p><p><a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-lists/the-27-club-a-brief-history-17853/">The 27 Club: A Brief History</a></p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/12/style/global-first-ladies-alliance.html">The School for First Ladies Is Now in Session</a></p><p><a href="https://www.heraldscotland.com/life_style/arts_ents/15024376.Damien_Love__39_s_TV_highlights/"><i>The Herald</i> on the 2017 Trump Inauguration TV listing as <i>Twilight Zone </i>episode</a></p><p><a href="https://www.teenvogue.com/story/the-hunger-games-sunrise-on-the-reaping-everything-you-need-to-know">Hunger Games: Sunrise on the Reaping film cast</a></p><p><a href="https://www.dragoncon.org/">Dragon Con</a></p><p><a href="https://www.comic-con.org/">San Diego Comic-Con</a></p><p><a href="https://www.japan-expo-paris.com/en/">Japan Expo</a></p><p><a href="https://www.newyorkcomiccon.com/en-us.html">New York Comic Con</a></p><p><a href="https://osakacomiccon.jp/en/archives/topics/%EF%BC%9C%E6%97%A9%E3%81%8F%E3%82%82%E7%AC%AC2%E5%BC%BE-%E6%9D%A5%E6%97%A5%E3%82%BB%E3%83%AC%E3%83%96%E6%83%85%E5%A0%B1-%E8%A7%A3%E7%A6%81%EF%BC%81%EF%BC%9E%E3%83%9E%E3%83%83%E3%83%84%E3%83%BB">Osaka Comic Con <i>Hannibal</i></a></p><p> </p><p>People mentioned:</p><p><a href="https://braverangels.org/">Braver Angels</a></p><p><a href="https://jeffries.house.gov/">Congressman Hakeem Jeffries – Proudly Representing the 8th District of New York</a></p><p><a href="https://berniesanders.com/">Bernie Sanders Official Website</a></p><p><a href="https://stormydaniels.com/">Stormy Daniels Official Website</a></p><p> </p><p>Academic Essays Mentioned:</p><p><a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1367877903006001004">New Audiences, New Textualities:  Anti-Fans and Non-Fans - Jonathan Gray, 2003</a></p><p> </p><p><a href="https://journal.transformativeworks.org/index.php/twc/article/view/47/59">Hillary Clinton fans </a></p><p><a href="https://journal.transformativeworks.org/index.php/twc/article/view/151%203/2113">fandom and fan politics in the Philippines, </a></p><p> </p><p>Series, Films, and Podcasts mentioned:</p><p>When Harry Met Sally… <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098635/">IMDB</a>, “I’ll have what she’s having” [<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pQgbEEFPq0">YouTube clip</a>]</p><p>Groundhog Day <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107048/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_groundhog%2520day">IMDB</a></p><p>Hannibal on <a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.f9525fb3-2d67-47e9-b350-a354c4342a6b?tag=justus0byi-20&token=ADE07EB7B9E7DB86DEEEF0D5D4FC5F0B5FB44D3F">Prime</a></p><p>RuPaul’s Drag Race on <a href="https://signup.wowpresentsplus.com/">WOW Presents Plus</a> and <a href="https://www.paramountplus.com/shows/rupauls-drag-race/">Paramount+</a></p><p>The West Wing on <a href="https://www.max.com/shows/west-wing/31fff0eb-9628-4b27-9be0-1669c440f210">Max</a></p><p>The Apprentice on <a href="https://www.amazon.com/The-Apprentice/dp/B0DVFQK4KD/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2IUY2EXH5MCNW&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.UFeR1QJWgHvluNeCGq3xw1nDm-Y9-fK7IS8xwW9cpHP5Tr4qxF5g13U_cRmrsQ3pCMTPJw8kS6sC9hBbCCblSN0QuWuBTFl-X6BuvV4JKGSWwf_cH2hUebL7NwaZs3jbpY49nbTTm4ZOvetu58fq10PUtTqIUsmJ7a4Fa4q_nyJJFMuMrY2TZUFyqsBazhwBdn7XrCWd7rLJt3OyFvlDC96rsY53tu5QzFe3M_oY89w.AeGgQAlDi5ru5KMRgbAX00W1osoYwXOFPSMEJ_q9sw4&dib_tag=se&keywords=The+Apprentice%2C+television&qid=1746492698&s=instant-video&sprefix=the+apprentice%2C+television%2Cinstant-video%2C168&sr=1-1">Prime</a></p><p>Listen to Call Her Daddy on<a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/4B9WOUCWY8qY0f9MMjOSXa?si=4bXGZsUlQbSLyEMo6xdDLw"> Spotify</a></p><p>Watch Friends on<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108778/"> IMDb</a></p><p>Watch Survivor on<a href="https://www.cbs.com/shows/survivor/"> CBS</a>,<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0239195/"> IMDb</a>, and<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/70153367"> Netflix</a></p><p>Watch The Bridge on<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1733785/"> IMDb</a> and<a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/the-bridge/umc.cmc.40dzk02967d43x0wuk1cqwg5a"> Apple TV</a></p><p><a href="https://www.joerogan.com/">Joe Rogan</a></p><p>Check out our previous <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-94-monica-guzman/">Episode 94: Curious Conversations Across the Divide with Mónica Guzmán</a></p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we welcome Abigail De Kosnik, an Associate Professor and Director of the Berkeley Center for New Media and the founder of <a href="https://www.fanlink.club/"><i>Fan Link</i></a>, and Jinyi Li, the technology chief of <i>Fan Link</i>, to discuss their groundbreaking platform connecting fandoms with education and activism. Abigail shares how <i>Fan Link</i> fosters media, racial, and gender literacy through creative fan-driven projects and real-world action, empowering fans to make a difference.</p><p>The conversation also examines the differing fandom strategies used by Democrats and Republicans in the recent election. Abigail and Jingyi explore how fan communities can influence political narratives and inspire collective action, offering a unique perspective on the intersection of fandom and politics.</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>About our guest:</p><p><a href="https://vcresearch.berkeley.edu/faculty/abigail-de-kosnik">Abigail De Kosnik | Research UC Berkeley</a></p><p><a href="https://bcnm.berkeley.edu/news-research/6087/abigail-de-kosnik-introduces-fanlink">Abigail De Kosnik Introduces Fanlink - News/Research - Berkeley Center for New Media</a></p><p><a href="https://bcnm.berkeley.edu/events/4223/conference/4194/fandom-piracy-fandom-race-panel">Fandom + Piracy: Fandom & Race Panel - Events - Berkeley Center for New Media</a></p><p> </p><p>Interesting Facts and Fan Events mentioned:</p><p><a href="https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/movies/a40794876/batgirl-hbo-movie-cancelled/">Leslie Grace Says the 'Batgirl' Cancellation Felt 'Like Deflating a Balloon'</a></p><p><a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-lists/the-27-club-a-brief-history-17853/">The 27 Club: A Brief History</a></p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/12/style/global-first-ladies-alliance.html">The School for First Ladies Is Now in Session</a></p><p><a href="https://www.heraldscotland.com/life_style/arts_ents/15024376.Damien_Love__39_s_TV_highlights/"><i>The Herald</i> on the 2017 Trump Inauguration TV listing as <i>Twilight Zone </i>episode</a></p><p><a href="https://www.teenvogue.com/story/the-hunger-games-sunrise-on-the-reaping-everything-you-need-to-know">Hunger Games: Sunrise on the Reaping film cast</a></p><p><a href="https://www.dragoncon.org/">Dragon Con</a></p><p><a href="https://www.comic-con.org/">San Diego Comic-Con</a></p><p><a href="https://www.japan-expo-paris.com/en/">Japan Expo</a></p><p><a href="https://www.newyorkcomiccon.com/en-us.html">New York Comic Con</a></p><p><a href="https://osakacomiccon.jp/en/archives/topics/%EF%BC%9C%E6%97%A9%E3%81%8F%E3%82%82%E7%AC%AC2%E5%BC%BE-%E6%9D%A5%E6%97%A5%E3%82%BB%E3%83%AC%E3%83%96%E6%83%85%E5%A0%B1-%E8%A7%A3%E7%A6%81%EF%BC%81%EF%BC%9E%E3%83%9E%E3%83%83%E3%83%84%E3%83%BB">Osaka Comic Con <i>Hannibal</i></a></p><p> </p><p>People mentioned:</p><p><a href="https://braverangels.org/">Braver Angels</a></p><p><a href="https://jeffries.house.gov/">Congressman Hakeem Jeffries – Proudly Representing the 8th District of New York</a></p><p><a href="https://berniesanders.com/">Bernie Sanders Official Website</a></p><p><a href="https://stormydaniels.com/">Stormy Daniels Official Website</a></p><p> </p><p>Academic Essays Mentioned:</p><p><a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1367877903006001004">New Audiences, New Textualities:  Anti-Fans and Non-Fans - Jonathan Gray, 2003</a></p><p> </p><p><a href="https://journal.transformativeworks.org/index.php/twc/article/view/47/59">Hillary Clinton fans </a></p><p><a href="https://journal.transformativeworks.org/index.php/twc/article/view/151%203/2113">fandom and fan politics in the Philippines, </a></p><p> </p><p>Series, Films, and Podcasts mentioned:</p><p>When Harry Met Sally… <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098635/">IMDB</a>, “I’ll have what she’s having” [<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pQgbEEFPq0">YouTube clip</a>]</p><p>Groundhog Day <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107048/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_groundhog%2520day">IMDB</a></p><p>Hannibal on <a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.f9525fb3-2d67-47e9-b350-a354c4342a6b?tag=justus0byi-20&token=ADE07EB7B9E7DB86DEEEF0D5D4FC5F0B5FB44D3F">Prime</a></p><p>RuPaul’s Drag Race on <a href="https://signup.wowpresentsplus.com/">WOW Presents Plus</a> and <a href="https://www.paramountplus.com/shows/rupauls-drag-race/">Paramount+</a></p><p>The West Wing on <a href="https://www.max.com/shows/west-wing/31fff0eb-9628-4b27-9be0-1669c440f210">Max</a></p><p>The Apprentice on <a href="https://www.amazon.com/The-Apprentice/dp/B0DVFQK4KD/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2IUY2EXH5MCNW&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.UFeR1QJWgHvluNeCGq3xw1nDm-Y9-fK7IS8xwW9cpHP5Tr4qxF5g13U_cRmrsQ3pCMTPJw8kS6sC9hBbCCblSN0QuWuBTFl-X6BuvV4JKGSWwf_cH2hUebL7NwaZs3jbpY49nbTTm4ZOvetu58fq10PUtTqIUsmJ7a4Fa4q_nyJJFMuMrY2TZUFyqsBazhwBdn7XrCWd7rLJt3OyFvlDC96rsY53tu5QzFe3M_oY89w.AeGgQAlDi5ru5KMRgbAX00W1osoYwXOFPSMEJ_q9sw4&dib_tag=se&keywords=The+Apprentice%2C+television&qid=1746492698&s=instant-video&sprefix=the+apprentice%2C+television%2Cinstant-video%2C168&sr=1-1">Prime</a></p><p>Listen to Call Her Daddy on<a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/4B9WOUCWY8qY0f9MMjOSXa?si=4bXGZsUlQbSLyEMo6xdDLw"> Spotify</a></p><p>Watch Friends on<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108778/"> IMDb</a></p><p>Watch Survivor on<a href="https://www.cbs.com/shows/survivor/"> CBS</a>,<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0239195/"> IMDb</a>, and<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/70153367"> Netflix</a></p><p>Watch The Bridge on<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1733785/"> IMDb</a> and<a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/the-bridge/umc.cmc.40dzk02967d43x0wuk1cqwg5a"> Apple TV</a></p><p><a href="https://www.joerogan.com/">Joe Rogan</a></p><p>Check out our previous <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-94-monica-guzman/">Episode 94: Curious Conversations Across the Divide with Mónica Guzmán</a></p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, <a href="https://www.jontaplin.com/about">Jon Taplin</a>— director Emeritus of the Annenberg Innovation Lab at the University of Southern California—joins us to discuss his early years working with Bob Dylan, to his recent research on tech billionaires' growth in legislative influence. Taplin historicizes the changes in media’s ties to politics between the McCarthy era to the 2024 election cycle.   </p><p>The discussion delves into the power of music to spark political thought and changes in people’s connection to pop culture during difficult times. We ask whether the media landscape has become more nihilistic and if there is room for local community-driven efforts. Taplin leaves us questioning where the relationship between pop culture and politics will go in America, as the system seems to be limiting the powers of creativity and political disobedience. </p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Academic Texts</p><p>The End of Reality: How Four Billionaires are Selling a Fantasy Future of the Metaverse, Mars, and Crypto [<a href="https://www.amazon.com/End-Reality-Billionaires-Selling-Metaverse/dp/1541703154/">Amazon</a>]</p><p>Move Fast and Break Things: How Facebook, Google, and Amazon Cornered Culture and Undermined Democracy [<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Move-Fast-Break-Things-Undermined/dp/0316275751">Amazon</a>]</p><p>The Magic Years: Scenes from a Rock-and-Roll Life [<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Magic-Years-Scenes-Rock-Roll/dp/1597145734">Amazon</a>]</p><p>People Mentioned</p><p><a href="https://www.bobdylan.com/">Bob Dylan</a></p><p><a href="https://www.televisionacademy.com/bios/edward-r-murrow">Edward R Murrow</a></p><p><a href="https://rhiannongiddens.com/">Rhiannon Giddens</a></p><p><a href="https://www.eff.org/john-perry-barlow">John Perry Barlow</a></p><p><a href="https://www.forbes.com/profile/elon-musk/">Elon Musk</a></p><p><a href="https://www.forbes.com/profile/jeff-bezos/">Jeff Bezos</a></p><p><a href="https://www.forbes.com/profile/peter-thiel/">Peter Thiel</a></p><p><a href="https://charlieparkermusic.com/">Charlie Parker</a></p><p><a href="https://www.arts.gov/honors/jazz/john-birks-dizzy-gillespie">John Birks "Dizzy" Gillespie</a></p><p><a href="https://rockhall.com/inductees/paul-butterfield-blues-band/"> Paul Butterfield Blues Band</a></p><p><a href="https://www.michaelbloomfield.com/"> Mike Bloomfield</a></p><p><a href="https://folklife.si.edu/legacy-honorees/alan-lomax/smithsonian">Alan Lomax</a></p><p>Shows, Films, and Other Media</p><p><i>A Complete Unknown</i> <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11563598/">IMDB </a></p><p><i>Mean Streets</i> <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070379/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_Mean%2520Streets">IMDB </a></p><p><i>The Last Waltz</i> <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077838/">IMDB</a></p><p><i>Squid Game</i> watch on <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81040344">Netflix</a></p><p><i>Beast Games</i> watch on <a href="https://www.primevideo.com/detail/Beast-Games/0TC47K49HUJK01R9FA42BAO22A">Prime</a></p><p><i>Ted Lasso </i>watch on <a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/ted-lasso/umc.cmc.vtoh0mn0xn7t3c643xqonfzy">Apple TV+</a></p><p>Schitt’s Creek watch on </p><p><i>Double Indemnity</i> <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0036775/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_Double%2520Indemnity%2520">IMDB</a></p><p><i>Clipped</i> watch on <a href="https://www.hulu.com/series/9ecd1618-78d0-4daa-b891-5ebbff43001f">Hulu</a></p><p><i>Breaking Bad </i><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0903747/">IMDB</a></p><p><i>Mad Men </i>watch on <a href="https://www.amcplus.com/?utm_medium=search&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=amc+-multi-title&utm_keyword=&utm_content=&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=20084143121&gbraid=0AAAAACP-dm581haC2d2kbh60WsejdjTkg&gclid=CjwKCAjwg7PDBhBxEiwAf1CVu2cIe1Wj2KU0OdTTLBi4HvHSsfPEX-cpnyG4UGm-htq2t2u5BAwjwhoCHHQQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds">AMC+</a></p><p><i>Succession </i>watch on <a href="https://www.max.com/shows/succession/a8484031-f244-4661-9fb7-0932bd1ba872">Max</a><i>\The Wire </i><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0306414/?ref_=fn_all_ttl_1">IMDB</a></p><p><i>Homicide: Life on the Street</i> <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106028/?ref_=fn_all_ttl_1">IMDB</a></p><p><i>Hill Street Blues</i> <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081873/?ref_=fn_all_ttl_1">IMDB</a></p><p><i>Matlock</i> (2024) watch on <a href="https://www.paramountplus.com/shows/matlock/">Paramount+</a></p><p><i>Knives Out</i> <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8946378/">IMDB</a></p><p><i>Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery</i> watch on <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81458416">Netflix</a></p><p><i>Columbo</i> <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1466074/?ref_=fn_all_ttl_1">IMDB</a></p><p><i>Grand Theft Auto</i> [<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htvcfRoSo2Q&ab_channel=Major_Trenton">YouTube Clips of Trailers for GTA 1-6</a>]</p><p><i>The Sopranos</i> <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0141842/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_7_nm_1_in_0_q_Sopranos">IMDB</a></p><p> Newport Folk Festival of 1965 Bob Dylan Performance [<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPfsUlFxhrI&ab_channel=LeviWeiss">YouTube clip</a>]</p><p>FanDuel [<a href="https://www.fanduel.com/">Website</a>]</p><p>Potluck [<a href="https://podcastpotluck.com/">Website</a>]</p><p><a href="https://virginiapublicradio.com/">Virginia Public Radio </a>[<a href="https://virginiapublicradio.com/">Website</a>]</p><p>Extra Fun Tidbits + News</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGoA2VHFIac&ab_channel=GameSpotUniverse">What does “kayfabe” mean in wrestling?</a></p><p><a href="https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/8811-dangerous-work-cy-endfield-film-noir-and-the-blacklist?srsltid=AfmBOopK87lYo6l_0PPj-60YK7DS9THtMOzU9pilah42gFJhiSsGk4sE">Criterion Channel “Dangerous Work: Cy Endfield, Film Noir, and the Blacklist” series </a></p><p><a href="https://www.fireaid.info/">LA Fire Mutual Aid</a></p><p><a href="https://calmatters.org/commentary/2025/01/los-angeles-fire-mutual-aid/">LA Community Combats Fires </a></p><p><a href="https://archive.li/blbdW#selection-521.0-525.7"><i>Poker Face </i>Is the <i>New Columbo</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.thecorporategovernanceinstitute.com/insights/lexicon/what-does-culture-eats-strategy-for-breakfast-mean/?srsltid=AfmBOooo5m9_Hh_rHVARmkrFSSMVD8oLgWEz3edBoGarK4Rrkfl4Yxt6">What does culture eats strategy for breakfast mean?</a></p><p><a href="https://deadline.com/2025/07/trump-lawsuit-60-minutes-lawsuit-settled-1236447496/">Trump vs 60 Minutes Lawsuit and Paramount Merger with Skydance </a></p><p><a href="https://www.kpbs.org/news/politics/2025/06/12/house-votes-to-kill-funding-for-public-media">Public Media Defunded </a></p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2025 00:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Jonathan Taplin, Colin Maclay, Henry Jenkins)</author>
      <link>https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/?p=1404</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, <a href="https://www.jontaplin.com/about">Jon Taplin</a>— director Emeritus of the Annenberg Innovation Lab at the University of Southern California—joins us to discuss his early years working with Bob Dylan, to his recent research on tech billionaires' growth in legislative influence. Taplin historicizes the changes in media’s ties to politics between the McCarthy era to the 2024 election cycle.   </p><p>The discussion delves into the power of music to spark political thought and changes in people’s connection to pop culture during difficult times. We ask whether the media landscape has become more nihilistic and if there is room for local community-driven efforts. Taplin leaves us questioning where the relationship between pop culture and politics will go in America, as the system seems to be limiting the powers of creativity and political disobedience. </p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Academic Texts</p><p>The End of Reality: How Four Billionaires are Selling a Fantasy Future of the Metaverse, Mars, and Crypto [<a href="https://www.amazon.com/End-Reality-Billionaires-Selling-Metaverse/dp/1541703154/">Amazon</a>]</p><p>Move Fast and Break Things: How Facebook, Google, and Amazon Cornered Culture and Undermined Democracy [<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Move-Fast-Break-Things-Undermined/dp/0316275751">Amazon</a>]</p><p>The Magic Years: Scenes from a Rock-and-Roll Life [<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Magic-Years-Scenes-Rock-Roll/dp/1597145734">Amazon</a>]</p><p>People Mentioned</p><p><a href="https://www.bobdylan.com/">Bob Dylan</a></p><p><a href="https://www.televisionacademy.com/bios/edward-r-murrow">Edward R Murrow</a></p><p><a href="https://rhiannongiddens.com/">Rhiannon Giddens</a></p><p><a href="https://www.eff.org/john-perry-barlow">John Perry Barlow</a></p><p><a href="https://www.forbes.com/profile/elon-musk/">Elon Musk</a></p><p><a href="https://www.forbes.com/profile/jeff-bezos/">Jeff Bezos</a></p><p><a href="https://www.forbes.com/profile/peter-thiel/">Peter Thiel</a></p><p><a href="https://charlieparkermusic.com/">Charlie Parker</a></p><p><a href="https://www.arts.gov/honors/jazz/john-birks-dizzy-gillespie">John Birks "Dizzy" Gillespie</a></p><p><a href="https://rockhall.com/inductees/paul-butterfield-blues-band/"> Paul Butterfield Blues Band</a></p><p><a href="https://www.michaelbloomfield.com/"> Mike Bloomfield</a></p><p><a href="https://folklife.si.edu/legacy-honorees/alan-lomax/smithsonian">Alan Lomax</a></p><p>Shows, Films, and Other Media</p><p><i>A Complete Unknown</i> <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11563598/">IMDB </a></p><p><i>Mean Streets</i> <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070379/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_Mean%2520Streets">IMDB </a></p><p><i>The Last Waltz</i> <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077838/">IMDB</a></p><p><i>Squid Game</i> watch on <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81040344">Netflix</a></p><p><i>Beast Games</i> watch on <a href="https://www.primevideo.com/detail/Beast-Games/0TC47K49HUJK01R9FA42BAO22A">Prime</a></p><p><i>Ted Lasso </i>watch on <a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/ted-lasso/umc.cmc.vtoh0mn0xn7t3c643xqonfzy">Apple TV+</a></p><p>Schitt’s Creek watch on </p><p><i>Double Indemnity</i> <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0036775/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_Double%2520Indemnity%2520">IMDB</a></p><p><i>Clipped</i> watch on <a href="https://www.hulu.com/series/9ecd1618-78d0-4daa-b891-5ebbff43001f">Hulu</a></p><p><i>Breaking Bad </i><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0903747/">IMDB</a></p><p><i>Mad Men </i>watch on <a href="https://www.amcplus.com/?utm_medium=search&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=amc+-multi-title&utm_keyword=&utm_content=&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=20084143121&gbraid=0AAAAACP-dm581haC2d2kbh60WsejdjTkg&gclid=CjwKCAjwg7PDBhBxEiwAf1CVu2cIe1Wj2KU0OdTTLBi4HvHSsfPEX-cpnyG4UGm-htq2t2u5BAwjwhoCHHQQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds">AMC+</a></p><p><i>Succession </i>watch on <a href="https://www.max.com/shows/succession/a8484031-f244-4661-9fb7-0932bd1ba872">Max</a><i>\The Wire </i><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0306414/?ref_=fn_all_ttl_1">IMDB</a></p><p><i>Homicide: Life on the Street</i> <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106028/?ref_=fn_all_ttl_1">IMDB</a></p><p><i>Hill Street Blues</i> <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081873/?ref_=fn_all_ttl_1">IMDB</a></p><p><i>Matlock</i> (2024) watch on <a href="https://www.paramountplus.com/shows/matlock/">Paramount+</a></p><p><i>Knives Out</i> <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8946378/">IMDB</a></p><p><i>Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery</i> watch on <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81458416">Netflix</a></p><p><i>Columbo</i> <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1466074/?ref_=fn_all_ttl_1">IMDB</a></p><p><i>Grand Theft Auto</i> [<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htvcfRoSo2Q&ab_channel=Major_Trenton">YouTube Clips of Trailers for GTA 1-6</a>]</p><p><i>The Sopranos</i> <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0141842/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_7_nm_1_in_0_q_Sopranos">IMDB</a></p><p> Newport Folk Festival of 1965 Bob Dylan Performance [<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPfsUlFxhrI&ab_channel=LeviWeiss">YouTube clip</a>]</p><p>FanDuel [<a href="https://www.fanduel.com/">Website</a>]</p><p>Potluck [<a href="https://podcastpotluck.com/">Website</a>]</p><p><a href="https://virginiapublicradio.com/">Virginia Public Radio </a>[<a href="https://virginiapublicradio.com/">Website</a>]</p><p>Extra Fun Tidbits + News</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGoA2VHFIac&ab_channel=GameSpotUniverse">What does “kayfabe” mean in wrestling?</a></p><p><a href="https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/8811-dangerous-work-cy-endfield-film-noir-and-the-blacklist?srsltid=AfmBOopK87lYo6l_0PPj-60YK7DS9THtMOzU9pilah42gFJhiSsGk4sE">Criterion Channel “Dangerous Work: Cy Endfield, Film Noir, and the Blacklist” series </a></p><p><a href="https://www.fireaid.info/">LA Fire Mutual Aid</a></p><p><a href="https://calmatters.org/commentary/2025/01/los-angeles-fire-mutual-aid/">LA Community Combats Fires </a></p><p><a href="https://archive.li/blbdW#selection-521.0-525.7"><i>Poker Face </i>Is the <i>New Columbo</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.thecorporategovernanceinstitute.com/insights/lexicon/what-does-culture-eats-strategy-for-breakfast-mean/?srsltid=AfmBOooo5m9_Hh_rHVARmkrFSSMVD8oLgWEz3edBoGarK4Rrkfl4Yxt6">What does culture eats strategy for breakfast mean?</a></p><p><a href="https://deadline.com/2025/07/trump-lawsuit-60-minutes-lawsuit-settled-1236447496/">Trump vs 60 Minutes Lawsuit and Paramount Merger with Skydance </a></p><p><a href="https://www.kpbs.org/news/politics/2025/06/12/house-votes-to-kill-funding-for-public-media">Public Media Defunded </a></p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Pop Culture&apos;s Political Tie-ins with Jonathan Taplin</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:summary>Jonathan Taplin immerses us in the world of pop culture&apos;s political tie-ins by questioning the power of tech oligarchies within politics, examining the roles celebrities play in these discussions, and exploring how the working class navigates bureaucratic frustrations through media.  </itunes:summary>
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      <title>Political Engagement in the Digital Age with Elizabeth Losh</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, <a href="https://lizlosh.com/">Elizabeth Losh</a>, Professor of English and American Studies at William and Mary, joins us to explore the transformative role of digital technology in politics, from past presidents' strategies to the present-day campaigns shaping our future. We dive into Kamala Harris’s first presidential run, examining her use of Instagram Live and how her social media presence has evolved since then. We also discuss her approach to engaging with voters this election cycle in public spaces, creating a dynamic connection between candidate and community.</p><p>We dissect the phenomenon of the memification in the election cycle, revealing how viral moments can shape narratives and influence public perception. Plus, we look at Minnesota Governor Tim Walz’s savvy social media tactics to galvanize voters.</p><p>Finally, we ask the question: if Kamala Harris secures the presidency, how can the momentum of youth engagement and enthusiasm cultivated through social media be sustained? Tune in for a thoughtful discussion on the future of political engagement in the digital age!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262047050/selfie-democracy/"><i>Selfie Democracy: The New Digital Politics of Disruption and Insurrection</i></a> by Elizabeth Losh</p><p>Obama administration’s <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_the_People_(petitioning_system)">We The People platform</a></p><p><a href="https://youtu.be/8YTrrqEdrI8?si=1XdEzlAqjPDPx8Ha">Obama addressing the interest in legalizing marijuana</a> at the first ever White House online town hall</p><p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@mxwlch03/video/7394583648571313424?lang=en">“Kamala is Brat” / Coconut tree tiktok</a></p><p>Vance’s Epic Egg Fail <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5BWPmIfFKo&t=70s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5BWPmIfFKo&t=70s</a></p><p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@casadimusic/video/7413373925276831022">“Eating the dogs” remix from tiktok </a></p><p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@couriernewsroom/video/7416754593448594719?q=tim%20walz%20car%20repair&t=1727887636901">Tim Walz car repair video clip </a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkW6Y7-lFoA">Jon Lovett on Survivor </a></p><p><a href="https://www.salon.com/2024/08/07/kamala-harris-is-reclaiming-what-it-means-to-be-a-woman-in-the-kitchen/">Kamala Harris is reclaiming what it means to be a "woman in the kitchen"</a> (Salon.com)</p><p>Taylor Swift’s <a href="https://www.instagram.com/taylorswift/p/C_wtAOKOW1z/?hl=en">endorsement of Harris/Walz on Instagram</a></p><p>Trump Uses AI for Church Photo <a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattnovak/2023/03/23/donald-trump-shares-fake-ai-created-image-of-himself-on-truth-social/">https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattnovak/2023/03/23/donald-trump-shares-fake-ai-created-image-of-himself-on-truth-social/</a></p><p>US Representative Mike Garcia <a href="https://mikegarcia.house.gov/">https://mikegarcia.house.gov/</a></p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 1 Jul 2025 19:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Elizabeth Losh, Henry Jenkins, Colin Maclay)</author>
      <link>https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/?p=1400</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, <a href="https://lizlosh.com/">Elizabeth Losh</a>, Professor of English and American Studies at William and Mary, joins us to explore the transformative role of digital technology in politics, from past presidents' strategies to the present-day campaigns shaping our future. We dive into Kamala Harris’s first presidential run, examining her use of Instagram Live and how her social media presence has evolved since then. We also discuss her approach to engaging with voters this election cycle in public spaces, creating a dynamic connection between candidate and community.</p><p>We dissect the phenomenon of the memification in the election cycle, revealing how viral moments can shape narratives and influence public perception. Plus, we look at Minnesota Governor Tim Walz’s savvy social media tactics to galvanize voters.</p><p>Finally, we ask the question: if Kamala Harris secures the presidency, how can the momentum of youth engagement and enthusiasm cultivated through social media be sustained? Tune in for a thoughtful discussion on the future of political engagement in the digital age!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262047050/selfie-democracy/"><i>Selfie Democracy: The New Digital Politics of Disruption and Insurrection</i></a> by Elizabeth Losh</p><p>Obama administration’s <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_the_People_(petitioning_system)">We The People platform</a></p><p><a href="https://youtu.be/8YTrrqEdrI8?si=1XdEzlAqjPDPx8Ha">Obama addressing the interest in legalizing marijuana</a> at the first ever White House online town hall</p><p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@mxwlch03/video/7394583648571313424?lang=en">“Kamala is Brat” / Coconut tree tiktok</a></p><p>Vance’s Epic Egg Fail <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5BWPmIfFKo&t=70s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5BWPmIfFKo&t=70s</a></p><p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@casadimusic/video/7413373925276831022">“Eating the dogs” remix from tiktok </a></p><p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@couriernewsroom/video/7416754593448594719?q=tim%20walz%20car%20repair&t=1727887636901">Tim Walz car repair video clip </a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkW6Y7-lFoA">Jon Lovett on Survivor </a></p><p><a href="https://www.salon.com/2024/08/07/kamala-harris-is-reclaiming-what-it-means-to-be-a-woman-in-the-kitchen/">Kamala Harris is reclaiming what it means to be a "woman in the kitchen"</a> (Salon.com)</p><p>Taylor Swift’s <a href="https://www.instagram.com/taylorswift/p/C_wtAOKOW1z/?hl=en">endorsement of Harris/Walz on Instagram</a></p><p>Trump Uses AI for Church Photo <a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattnovak/2023/03/23/donald-trump-shares-fake-ai-created-image-of-himself-on-truth-social/">https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattnovak/2023/03/23/donald-trump-shares-fake-ai-created-image-of-himself-on-truth-social/</a></p><p>US Representative Mike Garcia <a href="https://mikegarcia.house.gov/">https://mikegarcia.house.gov/</a></p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Professor and chair of the Communication Studies division at American University’s School of Communication, Aram Sinnreich, and Jesse Gilbert, an interdisciplinary artist working at the intersection of visual art, sound and software design, join us to explore the presence of data in our life and the future of data. The conversation starts with personal experiences at rallies and the challenges of digital activism. The guests reflect on their long-standing collaboration, which began in high school and led to their recent book, <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/739508/the-secret-life-of-data-by-aram-sinnreich-and-jesse-gilbert/"><i>The Secret Life of Data</i></a>.</p><p>Key themes include data privacy, the ethical implications of technology, and the influence of corporations on our digital lives.  We examine the limitations of AI, the psychological impact of surveillance, and the need for technology to reflect societal values. This episode offers concise insights on building a more equitable tech future.</p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://www.american.edu/soc/faculty/aram.cfm">Aram Sinnreich</a></p><p><a href="http://jessegilbert.net/">Jesse Gilbert</a></p><p><a href="https://www.strikegraph.com/secure-talk-podcast/the-algorithmic-mirror-reflecting-datas-role-in-modern-life">The Algorithmic Mirror: Reflecting data's role in modern life</a></p><p><a href="https://ijoc.org/index.php/ijoc/article/view/11946">“The Carrier Wave Principle” – International Journal of Communication</a></p><p><a href="https://clinton.presidentiallibraries.us/health-reform-initiative">Health Care Reform Initiative · Clinton Digital Library</a></p><p><a href="https://gdpr-info.eu/">General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR)</a></p><p><a href="https://www.dexcom.com/">Dexcom Continuous Glucose Monitoring</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foucauldian_discourse_analysis">Foucauldian discourse analysis</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Henry_(folklore)">John Henry (folklore)</a></p><p><a href="https://www.npr.org/2018/03/20/595338116/what-did-cambridge-analytica-do-during-the-2016-election">What Did Cambridge Analytica Do During The 2016 Election?</a></p><p>Watch <i>Black Mirror</i> on<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/70264888"> Netflix</a>; <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2085059/">IMDb</a></p><p><a href="http://wearcam.org/biowaw.htm#:~:text=His%20work%20as%20an%20artist%2C%20scientist%2C%20designer%2C%20and,Lab%27s%20Wearable%20Computing%20project%20as%20its%20first%20member.">Steve Mann</a></p><p><i>The Truman Show</i> on<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120382/"> IMDb</a></p><p><a href="https://blog.eera-ecer.de/tag/donna-haraway/">Donna Haraway Archives - EERA Blog</a></p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2025 13:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Aram Sinnreich, Jesse Gilbert, Colin Maclay, Henry Jenkins)</author>
      <link>https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/?p=1388</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Professor and chair of the Communication Studies division at American University’s School of Communication, Aram Sinnreich, and Jesse Gilbert, an interdisciplinary artist working at the intersection of visual art, sound and software design, join us to explore the presence of data in our life and the future of data. The conversation starts with personal experiences at rallies and the challenges of digital activism. The guests reflect on their long-standing collaboration, which began in high school and led to their recent book, <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/739508/the-secret-life-of-data-by-aram-sinnreich-and-jesse-gilbert/"><i>The Secret Life of Data</i></a>.</p><p>Key themes include data privacy, the ethical implications of technology, and the influence of corporations on our digital lives.  We examine the limitations of AI, the psychological impact of surveillance, and the need for technology to reflect societal values. This episode offers concise insights on building a more equitable tech future.</p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://www.american.edu/soc/faculty/aram.cfm">Aram Sinnreich</a></p><p><a href="http://jessegilbert.net/">Jesse Gilbert</a></p><p><a href="https://www.strikegraph.com/secure-talk-podcast/the-algorithmic-mirror-reflecting-datas-role-in-modern-life">The Algorithmic Mirror: Reflecting data's role in modern life</a></p><p><a href="https://ijoc.org/index.php/ijoc/article/view/11946">“The Carrier Wave Principle” – International Journal of Communication</a></p><p><a href="https://clinton.presidentiallibraries.us/health-reform-initiative">Health Care Reform Initiative · Clinton Digital Library</a></p><p><a href="https://gdpr-info.eu/">General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR)</a></p><p><a href="https://www.dexcom.com/">Dexcom Continuous Glucose Monitoring</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foucauldian_discourse_analysis">Foucauldian discourse analysis</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Henry_(folklore)">John Henry (folklore)</a></p><p><a href="https://www.npr.org/2018/03/20/595338116/what-did-cambridge-analytica-do-during-the-2016-election">What Did Cambridge Analytica Do During The 2016 Election?</a></p><p>Watch <i>Black Mirror</i> on<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/70264888"> Netflix</a>; <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2085059/">IMDb</a></p><p><a href="http://wearcam.org/biowaw.htm#:~:text=His%20work%20as%20an%20artist%2C%20scientist%2C%20designer%2C%20and,Lab%27s%20Wearable%20Computing%20project%20as%20its%20first%20member.">Steve Mann</a></p><p><i>The Truman Show</i> on<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120382/"> IMDb</a></p><p><a href="https://blog.eera-ecer.de/tag/donna-haraway/">Donna Haraway Archives - EERA Blog</a></p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwolinsky/">David Wolinsky</a>, author of <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Hivemind-Swarmed-Conversations-Gamergate-Aftermath/dp/0807017736"><i>The Hivemind Swarmed: Conversations on Gamergate, the Aftermath, and the Quest for a Safer Internet</i></a>, and <a href="https://communication.depaul.edu/faculty-and-staff/faculty/Pages/close.aspx">Sam Close</a>, Assistant Professor at DePaul University College of Communication, join us to unpack systemic challenges in the video game industry. From gender and racial discrimination to toxic workplace culture, they highlight the need for moral courage, ethical decision-making, and structural changes to foster a more inclusive and equitable environment.</p><p>The discussion revisits key moments like Gamergate, a flashpoint that exposed deep-seated harassment, and explores movements like the "girls game movement" that sought to empower women in gaming. Despite progress through women-led initiatives and increased awareness, the industry continues to grapple with significant barriers to inclusion and diversity.</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Hivemind-Swarmed-Conversations-Gamergate-Aftermath/dp/0807017736"><i>The Hivemind Swarmed: Conversations on Gamergate, the Aftermath, and the Quest for a Safer Internet</i></a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamergate_(harassment_campaign)">Gamergate - Wikipedia</a><br /><a href="https://www.britannica.com/topic/Gamergate-campaign">Gamergate | Summary, Facts, & Zoe Quinn | Britannica</a><br /><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/dec/01/gamergate-alt-right-hate-trump">What Gamergate should have taught us about the 'alt-right'</a></p><p><a href="http://bbc.com/news/business-33117769">Atari founder Nolan Bushnell on why life is 'a game'</a></p><p><a href="https://purplemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Purple_Moon">Purple Moon</a></p><p><a href="https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/news/what-makes-a-aaa-game-a-aaa-game">What makes a AAA game a AAA game?</a></p><p><a href="https://www.autostraddle.com/party-like-its-1995-the-rise-and-fall-of-the-girl-game-305378/">Party Like It's 1995: The Rise and Fall of the Girl Game</a><br /><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/girl-games-90s-fun-feminist/">The ‘Girl Games’ of the ’90s Were Fun and Feminist</a></p><p><a href="https://www.criminaljustice.com/resources/three-theories-of-criminal-justice/">The Three Theories of Criminal Justice</a></p><p><i>Conclave</i> on<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt20215234/"> IMDb</a>, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX9jasdi3ic">official trailer</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myjEoDypUD8">Watch the uncensored moment Will Smith smacks Chris Rock on stage at the Oscars, drops F-bomb</a></p><p><a href="https://www.metacritic.com/">Metacritic</a></p><p>Books Mentioned:</p><p><a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/545427/broad-band-by-claire-l-evans/"><i>Broad Band: The Untold Story of the Women Who Made the Internet</i> by Claire L. 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Despite progress through women-led initiatives and increased awareness, the industry continues to grapple with significant barriers to inclusion and diversity.</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Hivemind-Swarmed-Conversations-Gamergate-Aftermath/dp/0807017736"><i>The Hivemind Swarmed: Conversations on Gamergate, the Aftermath, and the Quest for a Safer Internet</i></a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamergate_(harassment_campaign)">Gamergate - Wikipedia</a><br /><a href="https://www.britannica.com/topic/Gamergate-campaign">Gamergate | Summary, Facts, & Zoe Quinn | Britannica</a><br /><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/dec/01/gamergate-alt-right-hate-trump">What Gamergate should have taught us about the 'alt-right'</a></p><p><a href="http://bbc.com/news/business-33117769">Atari founder Nolan Bushnell on why life is 'a game'</a></p><p><a href="https://purplemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Purple_Moon">Purple Moon</a></p><p><a href="https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/news/what-makes-a-aaa-game-a-aaa-game">What makes a AAA game a AAA game?</a></p><p><a href="https://www.autostraddle.com/party-like-its-1995-the-rise-and-fall-of-the-girl-game-305378/">Party Like It's 1995: The Rise and Fall of the Girl Game</a><br /><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/girl-games-90s-fun-feminist/">The ‘Girl Games’ of the ’90s Were Fun and Feminist</a></p><p><a href="https://www.criminaljustice.com/resources/three-theories-of-criminal-justice/">The Three Theories of Criminal Justice</a></p><p><i>Conclave</i> on<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt20215234/"> IMDb</a>, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX9jasdi3ic">official trailer</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myjEoDypUD8">Watch the uncensored moment Will Smith smacks Chris Rock on stage at the Oscars, drops F-bomb</a></p><p><a href="https://www.metacritic.com/">Metacritic</a></p><p>Books Mentioned:</p><p><a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/545427/broad-band-by-claire-l-evans/"><i>Broad Band: The Untold Story of the Women Who Made the Internet</i> by Claire L. Evans</a></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Barbie-Mortal-Kombat-Gender-Computer/dp/0262531682"><i>From Barbie to Mortal Kombat: Gender and Computer Games</i></a>, edited by Justine Cassell and Henry Jenkins</p><p>Games Mentioned:</p><p><a href="https://www.atariarchives.org/bcc1/showpage.php?page=247">Hunt The Wumpus</a></p><p><a href="https://supermarioplay.com/">Play the original Super Mario Bros Game Online</a></p><p><a href="https://lucasfilm.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_LucasArts_games">List of LucasArts games</a></p><p>Play Monkey Island Collection on<a href="https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/6588/Monkey_Island_Collection/"> Steam</a></p><p><a href="https://zelda.nintendo.com/">The official home for The Legend of Zelda - Home</a></p><p><a href="https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-shredders-revenge-switch/?srsltid=AfmBOooF_NUFvI4Pmjyi75EZYjvbg5XjrxrCG5C0HSmoDecnVWiswnV7">Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Shredder's Revenge for Nintendo Switch - Nintendo Official Site</a></p><p><a href="https://www.sierragames.com/kingsquest">Sierra - King’s Quest,Sierra - King’s Quest</a></p><p><a href="https://www.ponggame.org/">Pong Game</a></p><p><a href="https://www.cyberpunk.net/us/en/">Home of the Cyberpunk 2077 universe — games, anime & more</a></p><p><a href="https://baldursgate3.game/">baldursgate3.game</a></p><p><a href="https://bethesda.net/en/game/doom">DOOM Eternal</a></p><p><a href="http://king.com/zh_CN/game/candycrush">Candy Crush</a></p><p><a href="https://tetris.com/play-tetris">Play Tetris | Free Online Game</a></p><p><a href="https://www.ea.com/ea-studios/maxis">Maxis Studios – Official Electronic Arts Sites</a></p><p><a href="https://www.playstation.com/en-us/the-last-of-us/">Discover The Last of Us</a></p><p><a href="http://neveralonegame.com">Never Alone</a></p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, professors Colin and Henry, along with <a href="https://tltaylor.com/">T.L. Taylor</a>, Director of the MIT Game Lab, explore the rise of game studies as an academic field. Taylor shares her journey from studying virtual worlds in the 90s to becoming an expert in live streaming and eSports, shedding light on gaming's cultural impact and academic challenges.</p><p>They delve into the interactive relationship between game designers and players, examining how games reflect socio-technical systems. The conversation also touches on eSports, its growth into a major profession, and the influence of game developers and venture capital.</p><p>The episode wraps up with a discussion on the broader concept of play, including theme parks and the desire for "re-enchantment" in everyday life, highlighting the intersection of games, play, and self-expression.</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><strong>Games Mentioned</strong><br /><a href="https://www.everquest.com/home">Everquest</a><br /><a href="https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/">World of Warcraft </a><br /><a href="https://www.42entertainment.com/work/ilovebees">I Love Bees</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beast_(game)">The Beast</a></p><p><strong>Important Concepts in Games</strong><br /><a href="https://medium.com/@williamson.f93/multi-user-dungeons-muds-what-are-they-and-how-to-play-af3ec0f29f4a">Multi-User Dungeons (MUDs)</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massively_multiplayer_online_game">Massively Multiplayer Online Games (MMOs)</a><br /><a href="https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=minmaxer">Minmaxer</a></p><p><strong>T.L. Taylor publications</strong><br /><a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691183558/watch-me-play?srsltid=AfmBOorNCmvK_oIiiuNOVAPGV3edsSZuLxFZnnJVM7rJPdzCs9CT9WJU"><i>Watch Me Play: Twitch and the Rise of Game Live Streaming</i></a><br /><a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262527583/raising-the-stakes/"><i>Raising the Stakes: E-Sports and the Professionalization of Computer Gaming</i></a><br /><a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262512626/play-between-worlds/"><i>Play Between Worlds: Exploring Online Game Culture</i></a><br /><a href="https://knightfoundation.org/games-matter/">Games Matter</a> (Knight Foundation)</p><p><strong>Other Research Mentioned</strong><br /><a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2017/09/11/younger-men-play-video-games-but-so-do-a-diverse-group-of-other-americans/">Pew research on gaming, 2017</a><br /><a href="https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/people/baym/">Nancy Baym</a> and <a href="https://www.qut.edu.au/about/our-people/academic-profiles/jean.burgess">Jean Burgess</a>, <a href="https://nyupress.org/9781479811069/twitter/"><i>Twitter: A Biography</i></a> (hashtags as a user-generated intervention)<br /><a href="https://comm.unc.edu/people/department-faculty/alice-e-marwick/">Alice Marwick</a> (networked harassment)<br /><a href="https://evhippel.mit.edu/">Eric von Hippel</a> (innovation)<br /><a href="https://janemcgonigal.com/">Jane McGonigal</a>, <a href="https://avantgame.com/McGonigal_WhyILoveBees_Feb2007.pdf">Why I Love Bees: A Case Study in Collective Intelligence</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Weaver">Chris Weaver</a>, <a href="https://www.inverse.com/article/49401-elder-scrolls-6-series-is-popular-with-elderly-gamers">‘Elder Scrolls 6’: How the Series Became a Hit With Elderly Gamers</a><br /><a href="https://web.stanford.edu/class/history34q/readings/Baudrillard/Baudrillard_Simulacra.html">Jean Beaudrillard</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruno_Bettelheim">Bruno Bettelheim</a></p><p><strong>Other Mentions</strong><br /><a href="https://www.twitch.tv/">Twitch</a><br /><a href="https://twitchtracker.com/channels/ranking">Twitch Top Streamers 2024</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamergate_(harassment_campaign)">Gamergate</a></p><p><a href="https://lol.fandom.com/wiki/World_Cyber_Games">World Cyber Games</a></p><p><a href="https://www.usctrojanesports.com/">USC Esports</a><br /><a href="https://esports.uci.edu/teams/recruitment/">UC Irvine Esports</a></p><p><a href="https://sherryturkle.mit.edu/">Sherry Turkle</a>, also see <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-89-sherry-turkle/">Episode 89: Sherry Turkle on Empathy and the Narratives That Shape Our Lives</a>, and her book <a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Life-on-the-Screen/Sherry-Turkle/9780684833484"><i>Life on the Screen</i></a></p><p>Cory Doctorow<a href="https://craphound.com/down/Cory_Doctorow_-_Down_and_Out_in_the_Magic_Kingdom.pdf"><i> Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom</i></a> ; also check out our previous <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-45-radicalized-with-cory-doctorow/">Episode 45: “Radicalized” with Cory Doctorow</a></p><p>Check out our previous <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-92-disney-theme-parks/">Episode 92: Disney Theme Parks with Rebecca Williams and Lauren Sowa</a></p><p><a href="https://www.newsweek.com/what-us-presidents-would-look-like-mullet-ai-1784814">This Is What U.S. Presidents Would Look Like With Mullets, According to AI</a> (<i>Newsweek</i>) </p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
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The conversation also touches on eSports, its growth into a major profession, and the influence of game developers and venture capital.</p><p>The episode wraps up with a discussion on the broader concept of play, including theme parks and the desire for "re-enchantment" in everyday life, highlighting the intersection of games, play, and self-expression.</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><strong>Games Mentioned</strong><br /><a href="https://www.everquest.com/home">Everquest</a><br /><a href="https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/">World of Warcraft </a><br /><a href="https://www.42entertainment.com/work/ilovebees">I Love Bees</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beast_(game)">The Beast</a></p><p><strong>Important Concepts in Games</strong><br /><a href="https://medium.com/@williamson.f93/multi-user-dungeons-muds-what-are-they-and-how-to-play-af3ec0f29f4a">Multi-User Dungeons (MUDs)</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massively_multiplayer_online_game">Massively Multiplayer Online Games (MMOs)</a><br /><a href="https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=minmaxer">Minmaxer</a></p><p><strong>T.L. 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      <title>Inside American Wrestling with Charlie Jenkins</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we chat with Charlie Jenkins, whose lifelong passion for wrestling sparked a remarkable journey into writing. He started writing fan fiction around the age of five, dictating stories for his father to type on the computer. In high school he became an active player and game master in e-wrestling, an online roleplaying game that allowed fans to write their own pro wrestling characters and storylines, and now Charlie has crafted a unique voice in wrestling literature. His novel <i>American Wrestling 1989</i> fills a niche in wrestling-related fiction, weaving together the complex narratives of individuals in the industry and capturing the vibrant essence of 1980s wrestling beyond traditional sports stories.</p><p>We explore the emergence of wrestling fiction as a genre, influenced by the mainstream success of wrestling personalities and Charlie’s own experiences working with a small wrestling franchise. The conversation examines how American wrestling shapes cultural narratives and its global representation, alongside the transformative role of WWE and Vince McMahon in the industry's evolution. </p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Charlie Jenkins’ book: <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/123257999-american-wrestling"><i>American Wrestling, 1989</i></a> buy on <a href="https://www.amazon.com/American-Wrestling-Novel-Charlie-Jenkins-ebook/dp/B0BYMGZQL2/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&dib_tag=se&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.e7lfvuNf9JLUe1JEAsMalzRMmjtRWTim7G0yDJBNzGGDbvSMgJnykzbW9orGMvhYHU6tgsLrMIu9QZtnafnUUhJ1U-A2Y64JvZqq71rHIic.O97ghuys-ZFKu_u0X7eNZqAHCoNE6ML7aGAQABEg7l8&qid=1728596261&sr=8-1">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.audible.com/pd/American-Wrestling-1989-Audiobook/B0C1HN671C?eac_link=oNavXeS9ZGKD&ref=web_search_eac_asin_1&eac_selected_type=asin&eac_selected=B0C1HN671C&qid=ejmRCmulyw&eac_id=141-0270702-8878964_ejmRCmulyw&sr=1-1">Audible</a></p><p>Clips featured in the episode:</p><p><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTp2yGT9D6I__;!!LIr3w8kk_Xxm!pUq5-QWmX_cewFIip3aj6Y-hw5iDTH9WRbjWTFJwwcvSBeokdj8w8hq0xRTGohFsILDwmMfq-wwEtwVb9Q$">The Undertaker</a><br /><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9py4aMK3aIU&t=61s__;!!LIr3w8kk_Xxm!pUq5-QWmX_cewFIip3aj6Y-hw5iDTH9WRbjWTFJwwcvSBeokdj8w8hq0xRTGohFsILDwmMfq-wwrH0cPdA$">Dusty Rhodes</a><br /><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpo-VkqtqbE&t=71s__;!!LIr3w8kk_Xxm!pUq5-QWmX_cewFIip3aj6Y-hw5iDTH9WRbjWTFJwwcvSBeokdj8w8hq0xRTGohFsILDwmMfq-wzm0mnFKg$">Sasha Banks & Bianca Belair</a><br /><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwVEYS4mskM&t=102s__;!!LIr3w8kk_Xxm!pUq5-QWmX_cewFIip3aj6Y-hw5iDTH9WRbjWTFJwwcvSBeokdj8w8hq0xRTGohFsILDwmMfq-wwzBxAcbg$">Zeb Colter and Jack Swagger address Glenn Beck</a></p><p>Wrestlers Mentioned</p><ul><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Undertaker">The Undertaker</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/undertaker/">his instagram</a></li><li><a href="https://hulkhogan.com/">Hulk Hogan</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwayne_Johnson">Dwayne Johnson</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/therock/">his instagram</a></li><li><a href="https://www.wwe.com/superstars/john-cena">John Cena</a></li><li><a href="https://www.wwe.com/superstars/batista">Dave Bautista</a></li><li><a href="https://www.wwe.com/superstars/ricflair">Rick Flair</a></li><li><a href="https://www.wwe.com/superstars/dustyrhodes">Dusty Rhodes</a></li><li><a href="https://www.wwe.com/superstars/yokozuna">Yokozuna</a></li><li><a href="https://brethart.com/">Bret Hart</a></li><li><a href="https://www.wwe.com/superstars/mick-foley">Mick Foley</a></li><li><a href="https://www.wwe.com/superstars/gorgeousgeorge">Gorgeous George</a></li><li><a href="https://prowrestling.fandom.com/wiki/Anthony_Bowens">Anthony Bowens</a></li><li><a href="https://www.wwe.com/superstars/sonya-deville">Sonya Deville </a></li><li><a href="https://www.wwe.com/superstars/shayna-baszler">Shayna Baszler </a></li><li><a href="https://www.wwe.com/superstars/toni-storm">Toni Storm</a></li><li><a href="https://prowrestling.fandom.com/wiki/Nyla_Rose">Nyla Rose</a></li><li><a href="https://prowrestling.fandom.com/wiki/Sonny_Kiss">Sonny Kiss</a></li><li><a href="https://www.wwe.com/superstars/becky-lynch">Becky Lynch</a></li><li><a href="https://prowrestling.fandom.com/wiki/Jack_Swagger">Jake Hager</a></li></ul><p><a href="https://www.britannica.com/topic/Creature-from-the-Black-Lagoon">Creature From the Black Lagoon</a> (movie)</p><p><a href="https://peewee.com/">Pee-wee Herman</a></p><p><a href="https://prowrestling.fandom.com/wiki/WWF_Superstars_of_Wrestling"><i>WWF Superstars of Wrestling</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11639952/"><i>Young Rock</i></a>  (watch on <a href="https://www.nbc.com/young-rock">NBC</a>)<br /><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6554240/"><i>Heels</i></a> (watch on <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81495239?trackId=259776131&trkId=259776131&src=tudum">Netflix</a>)<br /><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5770786/"><i>GLOW</i></a> (<i>Gorgeous Ladies of Wrestlin</i>g - watch on <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80114988">Netflix</a>)<br /><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0427340/"><i>Masters of the Universe</i></a> (watch on <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81154670">Netflix</a>)</p><p><a href="https://www.cirquedusoleil.com/">Cirque du Soleil</a></p><p>The <a href="https://www.wwe.com/">WWE</a> and <a href="https://www.allelitewrestling.com/">AEW</a></p><p><a href="https://www.luchavavoomdelaliz.com/">Lucha VaVoom de La Liz</a></p><p><a href="https://prowrestling.fandom.com/wiki/Wayne_Cowan">Wayne Cowan</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vince_McMahon">Vince McMahon</a><br /><a href="https://prowrestling.fandom.com/wiki/McMahon_family">McMahon Family</a><br /><a href="https://www.ringmasterthebook.com/"><i>Ringmaster: Vince McMahon and the Unmaking of America</i></a><i>, by Abraham Riesman</i></p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2024 13:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we chat with Charlie Jenkins, whose lifelong passion for wrestling sparked a remarkable journey into writing. He started writing fan fiction around the age of five, dictating stories for his father to type on the computer. In high school he became an active player and game master in e-wrestling, an online roleplaying game that allowed fans to write their own pro wrestling characters and storylines, and now Charlie has crafted a unique voice in wrestling literature. His novel <i>American Wrestling 1989</i> fills a niche in wrestling-related fiction, weaving together the complex narratives of individuals in the industry and capturing the vibrant essence of 1980s wrestling beyond traditional sports stories.</p><p>We explore the emergence of wrestling fiction as a genre, influenced by the mainstream success of wrestling personalities and Charlie’s own experiences working with a small wrestling franchise. The conversation examines how American wrestling shapes cultural narratives and its global representation, alongside the transformative role of WWE and Vince McMahon in the industry's evolution. </p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Charlie Jenkins’ book: <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/123257999-american-wrestling"><i>American Wrestling, 1989</i></a> buy on <a href="https://www.amazon.com/American-Wrestling-Novel-Charlie-Jenkins-ebook/dp/B0BYMGZQL2/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&dib_tag=se&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.e7lfvuNf9JLUe1JEAsMalzRMmjtRWTim7G0yDJBNzGGDbvSMgJnykzbW9orGMvhYHU6tgsLrMIu9QZtnafnUUhJ1U-A2Y64JvZqq71rHIic.O97ghuys-ZFKu_u0X7eNZqAHCoNE6ML7aGAQABEg7l8&qid=1728596261&sr=8-1">Amazon</a>, <a href="https://www.audible.com/pd/American-Wrestling-1989-Audiobook/B0C1HN671C?eac_link=oNavXeS9ZGKD&ref=web_search_eac_asin_1&eac_selected_type=asin&eac_selected=B0C1HN671C&qid=ejmRCmulyw&eac_id=141-0270702-8878964_ejmRCmulyw&sr=1-1">Audible</a></p><p>Clips featured in the episode:</p><p><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTp2yGT9D6I__;!!LIr3w8kk_Xxm!pUq5-QWmX_cewFIip3aj6Y-hw5iDTH9WRbjWTFJwwcvSBeokdj8w8hq0xRTGohFsILDwmMfq-wwEtwVb9Q$">The Undertaker</a><br /><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9py4aMK3aIU&t=61s__;!!LIr3w8kk_Xxm!pUq5-QWmX_cewFIip3aj6Y-hw5iDTH9WRbjWTFJwwcvSBeokdj8w8hq0xRTGohFsILDwmMfq-wwrH0cPdA$">Dusty Rhodes</a><br /><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpo-VkqtqbE&t=71s__;!!LIr3w8kk_Xxm!pUq5-QWmX_cewFIip3aj6Y-hw5iDTH9WRbjWTFJwwcvSBeokdj8w8hq0xRTGohFsILDwmMfq-wzm0mnFKg$">Sasha Banks & Bianca Belair</a><br /><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwVEYS4mskM&t=102s__;!!LIr3w8kk_Xxm!pUq5-QWmX_cewFIip3aj6Y-hw5iDTH9WRbjWTFJwwcvSBeokdj8w8hq0xRTGohFsILDwmMfq-wwzBxAcbg$">Zeb Colter and Jack Swagger address Glenn Beck</a></p><p>Wrestlers Mentioned</p><ul><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Undertaker">The Undertaker</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/undertaker/">his instagram</a></li><li><a href="https://hulkhogan.com/">Hulk Hogan</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwayne_Johnson">Dwayne Johnson</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/therock/">his instagram</a></li><li><a href="https://www.wwe.com/superstars/john-cena">John Cena</a></li><li><a href="https://www.wwe.com/superstars/batista">Dave Bautista</a></li><li><a href="https://www.wwe.com/superstars/ricflair">Rick Flair</a></li><li><a href="https://www.wwe.com/superstars/dustyrhodes">Dusty Rhodes</a></li><li><a href="https://www.wwe.com/superstars/yokozuna">Yokozuna</a></li><li><a href="https://brethart.com/">Bret Hart</a></li><li><a href="https://www.wwe.com/superstars/mick-foley">Mick Foley</a></li><li><a href="https://www.wwe.com/superstars/gorgeousgeorge">Gorgeous George</a></li><li><a href="https://prowrestling.fandom.com/wiki/Anthony_Bowens">Anthony Bowens</a></li><li><a href="https://www.wwe.com/superstars/sonya-deville">Sonya Deville </a></li><li><a href="https://www.wwe.com/superstars/shayna-baszler">Shayna Baszler </a></li><li><a href="https://www.wwe.com/superstars/toni-storm">Toni Storm</a></li><li><a href="https://prowrestling.fandom.com/wiki/Nyla_Rose">Nyla Rose</a></li><li><a href="https://prowrestling.fandom.com/wiki/Sonny_Kiss">Sonny Kiss</a></li><li><a href="https://www.wwe.com/superstars/becky-lynch">Becky Lynch</a></li><li><a href="https://prowrestling.fandom.com/wiki/Jack_Swagger">Jake Hager</a></li></ul><p><a href="https://www.britannica.com/topic/Creature-from-the-Black-Lagoon">Creature From the Black Lagoon</a> (movie)</p><p><a href="https://peewee.com/">Pee-wee Herman</a></p><p><a href="https://prowrestling.fandom.com/wiki/WWF_Superstars_of_Wrestling"><i>WWF Superstars of Wrestling</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11639952/"><i>Young Rock</i></a>  (watch on <a href="https://www.nbc.com/young-rock">NBC</a>)<br /><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6554240/"><i>Heels</i></a> (watch on <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81495239?trackId=259776131&trkId=259776131&src=tudum">Netflix</a>)<br /><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5770786/"><i>GLOW</i></a> (<i>Gorgeous Ladies of Wrestlin</i>g - watch on <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80114988">Netflix</a>)<br /><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0427340/"><i>Masters of the Universe</i></a> (watch on <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81154670">Netflix</a>)</p><p><a href="https://www.cirquedusoleil.com/">Cirque du Soleil</a></p><p>The <a href="https://www.wwe.com/">WWE</a> and <a href="https://www.allelitewrestling.com/">AEW</a></p><p><a href="https://www.luchavavoomdelaliz.com/">Lucha VaVoom de La Liz</a></p><p><a href="https://prowrestling.fandom.com/wiki/Wayne_Cowan">Wayne Cowan</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vince_McMahon">Vince McMahon</a><br /><a href="https://prowrestling.fandom.com/wiki/McMahon_family">McMahon Family</a><br /><a href="https://www.ringmasterthebook.com/"><i>Ringmaster: Vince McMahon and the Unmaking of America</i></a><i>, by Abraham Riesman</i></p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Tasha Oren on the Evolution of Food TV</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we take a deep dive into the evolution of food television, from the early days of simple, instructional shows to today's diverse and dynamic culinary landscape. We'll explore how icons like Betty Crocker shaped early cooking programs, empowering women in the kitchen, and how trailblazers like Julia Child, Emeril Lagasse, and Guy Fieri pushed boundaries—changing not just how we cook, but how we see race and gender in food media.</p><p>We’ll also journey into the origins of Iron Chef, its impact on Asian identity, and how it became a global cultural phenomenon. Plus, we’ll reflect on the genre's transition to streaming, where shows like Chef’s Table have brought a more artistic, inclusive approach to the culinary world. And as food competition shows shift from cutthroat to kind, what does the future hold for food media?</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Books by Tasha Oren: <a href="https://www.routledge.com/Food-TV/Oren/p/book/9781138998643?srsltid=AfmBOoric04feoln8aLByyj3mc5h1qBIrOgxFeOuU6dlZ3TZXiDC9voA"><i>Food TV</i></a><i> </i>; <a href="https://nyupress.org/9781479815739/global-asian-american-popular-cultures/"><i>Global Asian American Popular Cultures</i></a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joyce_Chen_(chef)">Joyce Chen</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Huang">Eddie Wang</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Chang">David Chang </a></p><p><a href="https://c-istudios.com/the-evolution-of-television-formats-from-traditional-to-streaming/">The Evolution of Television Formats</a></p><p><i>MasterChef Junio</i>r: Watch on <a href="https://www.hulu.com/series/masterchef-junior-9b1adf47-0ee6-4d75-955d-a63277361ceb">Hulu</a></p><p><i>Project Runwa</i>y: Watch on <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/70143823">Netflix</a>, <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0437741/">IMDb</a></p><p><i>Survivor</i>: Watch on <a href="https://www.cbs.com/shows/survivor/">CBS</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia_Child">Julia Child</a><br /><a href="https://books.google.com/books/about/Julia_Child_s_The_French_Chef.html?id=lsIWnCO6sawC&source=kp_book_description"><i>Julia Child’s The French Chef</i></a> by Dana Polan<br /><a href="https://www.pbs.org/show/french-chef-julia-child/"><i>The French Chef with Julia Child</i></a><br /><a href="https://airandspace.si.edu/">Smithsonian Air and Space Museum</a> ; <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHJDQY4mWFg">Julia Child clip</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emeril_Lagasse">Emeril Lagasse</a> ; <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmdTVh91WT4"><i>Emeril Live</i> clip</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Chef"><i>Iron Chef</i></a> ; <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RJf3l8QXWs">Netflix Trailer</a></p><p><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094291/"><i>Wall Street </i></a>(1987 film)</p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/06/us/politics/hillary-clinton-cookies.html">Hillary Clinton and the Return of the (Unbaked) Cookies - <i>New York Times</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x44zqrh">Hillary Clinton explains "Bake cookies" remark April 1992 - <i>Dailymotion</i></a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betty_Crocker">Betty Crocker - history</a>; <a href="https://www.otrr.org/OTRRLibrary/otrrlibrary.html?idp=1323">Betty Crocker on the radio</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fieri">Guy Fieri </a></p><p><a href="https://www.foodnetwork.com/">Food Network </a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Aiken">Curtis Aiken </a></p><p><i>Mind of a Chef</i>: Watch on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@MindofaChef">Youtube</a>, <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2510616/">IMDb</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKqj85oo2wI"><i>Chef’s Table</i> trailer</a>; Watch on <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80007945">Netflix</a>, <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4295140/">IMDb</a></p><p>Jeff Yang's new book, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Golden-Screen-Movies-Asian-America/dp/0762482222"><i>The Golden Screen</i></a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Shatner">William Shatner </a></p><p><i>Hell's Kitchen</i>: Watch on <a href="https://www.fox.com/hells-kitchen/">FOX</a>, <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0437005/">IMDb</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9DyHthJ6LA">Gordon Ramsay on Hot Ones</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dn5UhUMCSz0"><i>Baking Impossible</i> trailer</a></p><p><a href="https://thegreatbritishbakeoff.co.uk/"><i>The Great British Bake Off</i></a></p><p><i>Bong Appetit</i>: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NATQjIWfGp8">Trailer</a>; Watch on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnPDn1Lb79JHa7IiQk9k9rJhwuGJn43q2">Youtube</a>, <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6834076/">IDMb</a><br /><a href="https://youtu.be/lfcBRq_XDro">Vanessa Lavorato & Miguel Trinidad (Bong Appetit) - <i>The Smokebox</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.nuggmd.com/blog/cooking-with-cannabis-a-beginners-guide-to-making-marijuana-edibles">Cooking with Cannabis</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m18b2l5F4JI"><i>Bake Squad</i> trailer</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KLsZVMbu8U"><i>The Bear</i> trailer</a>: Watch on <a href="https://www.hulu.com/series/the-bear-05eb6a8e-90ed-4947-8c0b-e6536cbddd5f?&cmp=7958&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=BM+Search+TV+Shows&utm_term=the%20bear&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw3vO3BhCqARIsAEWblcAR-QMzav0rGB2c0octzSxeWAftSp-2axtV4EOfYNYXBcxUainqmA8aAnrsEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds">Hulu</a>, <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14452776/">IMDb</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hfQYalGPdo"><i>Simply Sara</i> (YouTube)</a></p><p>Check out our previous <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-61-broken-bread/">Episode 61: Broken Bread with Chef Roy Choi and KCET’s Juan Devis</a></p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 4 Oct 2024 13:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Tasha Oren, Colin Maclay, Henry Jenkins)</author>
      <link>https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/?p=1368</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we take a deep dive into the evolution of food television, from the early days of simple, instructional shows to today's diverse and dynamic culinary landscape. We'll explore how icons like Betty Crocker shaped early cooking programs, empowering women in the kitchen, and how trailblazers like Julia Child, Emeril Lagasse, and Guy Fieri pushed boundaries—changing not just how we cook, but how we see race and gender in food media.</p><p>We’ll also journey into the origins of Iron Chef, its impact on Asian identity, and how it became a global cultural phenomenon. Plus, we’ll reflect on the genre's transition to streaming, where shows like Chef’s Table have brought a more artistic, inclusive approach to the culinary world. And as food competition shows shift from cutthroat to kind, what does the future hold for food media?</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Books by Tasha Oren: <a href="https://www.routledge.com/Food-TV/Oren/p/book/9781138998643?srsltid=AfmBOoric04feoln8aLByyj3mc5h1qBIrOgxFeOuU6dlZ3TZXiDC9voA"><i>Food TV</i></a><i> </i>; <a href="https://nyupress.org/9781479815739/global-asian-american-popular-cultures/"><i>Global Asian American Popular Cultures</i></a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joyce_Chen_(chef)">Joyce Chen</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Huang">Eddie Wang</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Chang">David Chang </a></p><p><a href="https://c-istudios.com/the-evolution-of-television-formats-from-traditional-to-streaming/">The Evolution of Television Formats</a></p><p><i>MasterChef Junio</i>r: Watch on <a href="https://www.hulu.com/series/masterchef-junior-9b1adf47-0ee6-4d75-955d-a63277361ceb">Hulu</a></p><p><i>Project Runwa</i>y: Watch on <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/70143823">Netflix</a>, <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0437741/">IMDb</a></p><p><i>Survivor</i>: Watch on <a href="https://www.cbs.com/shows/survivor/">CBS</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia_Child">Julia Child</a><br /><a href="https://books.google.com/books/about/Julia_Child_s_The_French_Chef.html?id=lsIWnCO6sawC&source=kp_book_description"><i>Julia Child’s The French Chef</i></a> by Dana Polan<br /><a href="https://www.pbs.org/show/french-chef-julia-child/"><i>The French Chef with Julia Child</i></a><br /><a href="https://airandspace.si.edu/">Smithsonian Air and Space Museum</a> ; <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHJDQY4mWFg">Julia Child clip</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emeril_Lagasse">Emeril Lagasse</a> ; <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmdTVh91WT4"><i>Emeril Live</i> clip</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Chef"><i>Iron Chef</i></a> ; <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RJf3l8QXWs">Netflix Trailer</a></p><p><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094291/"><i>Wall Street </i></a>(1987 film)</p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/06/us/politics/hillary-clinton-cookies.html">Hillary Clinton and the Return of the (Unbaked) Cookies - <i>New York Times</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x44zqrh">Hillary Clinton explains "Bake cookies" remark April 1992 - <i>Dailymotion</i></a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betty_Crocker">Betty Crocker - history</a>; <a href="https://www.otrr.org/OTRRLibrary/otrrlibrary.html?idp=1323">Betty Crocker on the radio</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fieri">Guy Fieri </a></p><p><a href="https://www.foodnetwork.com/">Food Network </a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Aiken">Curtis Aiken </a></p><p><i>Mind of a Chef</i>: Watch on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@MindofaChef">Youtube</a>, <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2510616/">IMDb</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKqj85oo2wI"><i>Chef’s Table</i> trailer</a>; Watch on <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80007945">Netflix</a>, <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4295140/">IMDb</a></p><p>Jeff Yang's new book, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Golden-Screen-Movies-Asian-America/dp/0762482222"><i>The Golden Screen</i></a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Shatner">William Shatner </a></p><p><i>Hell's Kitchen</i>: Watch on <a href="https://www.fox.com/hells-kitchen/">FOX</a>, <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0437005/">IMDb</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9DyHthJ6LA">Gordon Ramsay on Hot Ones</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dn5UhUMCSz0"><i>Baking Impossible</i> trailer</a></p><p><a href="https://thegreatbritishbakeoff.co.uk/"><i>The Great British Bake Off</i></a></p><p><i>Bong Appetit</i>: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NATQjIWfGp8">Trailer</a>; Watch on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnPDn1Lb79JHa7IiQk9k9rJhwuGJn43q2">Youtube</a>, <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6834076/">IDMb</a><br /><a href="https://youtu.be/lfcBRq_XDro">Vanessa Lavorato & Miguel Trinidad (Bong Appetit) - <i>The Smokebox</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.nuggmd.com/blog/cooking-with-cannabis-a-beginners-guide-to-making-marijuana-edibles">Cooking with Cannabis</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m18b2l5F4JI"><i>Bake Squad</i> trailer</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KLsZVMbu8U"><i>The Bear</i> trailer</a>: Watch on <a href="https://www.hulu.com/series/the-bear-05eb6a8e-90ed-4947-8c0b-e6536cbddd5f?&cmp=7958&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=BM+Search+TV+Shows&utm_term=the%20bear&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw3vO3BhCqARIsAEWblcAR-QMzav0rGB2c0octzSxeWAftSp-2axtV4EOfYNYXBcxUainqmA8aAnrsEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds">Hulu</a>, <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14452776/">IMDb</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hfQYalGPdo"><i>Simply Sara</i> (YouTube)</a></p><p>Check out our previous <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-61-broken-bread/">Episode 61: Broken Bread with Chef Roy Choi and KCET’s Juan Devis</a></p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we dive into the fascinating journey of Barry, a visionary who started as an aspiring theme park ride designer and evolved into a groundbreaking toy creator and educator. We explore how divergent and convergent thinking shape creativity, and how toys serve as more than just playthings – they're tools for limitless imagination. From Lego’s transformation to society’s expectations on toy use, we challenge the restrictions imposed on children’s creative freedom. Discover how kids naturally hybridize toys like Barbies and action figures, and why the industry’s focus on specialization might be stifling their innovation. We also examine the role of franchising in shaping toy creativity, and dive into the often-overlooked world of industrial design, pondering how media could elevate its visibility. And yes, we even touch on poop technology! </p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://x.com/kudrowitz">x.com/kudrowitz</a></p><p><a href="https://design.umn.edu/directory/barry-m-kudrowitz">design.umn.edu/directory/barry-m-kudrowitz</a></p><p><a href="https://www.routledge.com/Sparking-Creativity-How-Play-and-Humor-Fuel-Innovation-and-Design/Kudrowitz/p/book/9781032232157">Sparking Creativity: How Play and Humor Fuel Innovation and Design</a></p><p>MIT East Campus: <a href="https://betterworld.mit.edu/building-tradition-with-an-east-campus-roller-coaster/">Building Tradition with an East Campus Roller Coaster</a></p><p><a href="https://meche.mit.edu/sites/default/files/cv/drwallac_CV.pdf">David Robert Wallace</a></p><p><a href="https://nerf.fandom.com/wiki/Nerf_Super_Soaker">Nerf Super Soaker</a></p><p><a href="https://cmsw.mit.edu/education/comparative-media-studies/">Comparative Media Studies Degree Programs MIT</a></p><p><a href="https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/humor/">Incongruity theory of humor</a></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Jake-Adventure-Handmade-Plush-inches/dp/B0BY73SKN2?th=1">Jake The Dog Adventure Time Handmade Plush Toys (12 inches)</a></p><p><a href="https://youtu.be/bUfCMsCe5BA?si=i9aYUz2KwEzx-0Jq">The Lego Movie</a></p><p><a href="https://www.lego.com/en-us/themes/harry-potter?gclid=CjwKCAjwl6-3BhBWEiwApN6_klhZOxavRCeF43xL7nkat92uCwnM6N-MY4OxpGLH29JZZ_ahOsHs3hoCrlwQAvD_BwE&ef_id=CjwKCAjwl6-3BhBWEiwApN6_klhZOxavRCeF43xL7nkat92uCwnM6N-MY4OxpGLH29JZZ_ahOsHs3hoCrlwQAvD_BwE%3AG%3As&s_kwcid=AL%21790%213%21675177432666%21b%21%21g%21%21lego+harry+potter%2120583881412%21154734200795&cmp=KAC-INI-GOOGUS-GO-US_GL-EN-RE-PS-BUY-EXPLORE-HARRY_POTTER_TM-SHOP-THINT-MM-ALL-CIDNA00000-THEME-HARRY_POTTER_TM&gad_source=1">Harry Potter™ Toys and Gifts | Official LEGO® Shop US</a></p><p><a href="https://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Rocket_Raccoon">Rocket Racoon</a></p><p><a href="https://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Tinkerer">Tinkerer</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burn_Notice">Burn Notice</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherlock_Holmes_(2009_film)">Sherlock Holmes (2009 film)</a></p><p><a href="https://asana.com/resources/convergent-vs-divergent">Convergent vs. Divergent Thinking: Finding Balance [2024] • Asana</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torrance_Tests_of_Creative_Thinking">Torrance Tests of Creative Thinking</a></p><p><a href="https://www.melissaanddoug.com/collections/shop-all-pretend-play?srsltid=AfmBOooLvalj7Kmu0bKevwGMUz1dYLykgA_-qzMBB3HqZhLZEdUWtC2J">Pretend Play Toys and Play Sets</a></p><p><a href="http://lego.com/en-us">Home | Official LEGO® Shop US</a></p><p><a href="https://brickipedia.fandom.com/wiki/The_LEGO_Movie_(theme)">The LEGO Movie (theme)</a></p><p><a href="https://toystory.disney.com/">Toy Story | Official Disney Site</a></p><p><a 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Collection</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flamin%27_Hot">Flamin' Hot</a></p><p><a href="http://imdb.com/title/tt16419074/">Air</a></p><p><a href="https://tetris.com/">Tetris</a></p><p><a href="https://tetris.com/play-tetris">Play Tetris | Free Online Game</a></p><p><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt21867434/">BlackBerry</a></p><p><a href="http://hulu.com/series/project-runway-6fa35fc5-00e4-400e-9529-640c064fc982">Project Runway</a></p><p><a href="https://rupaulsdragrace.fandom.com/wiki/RuPaul%27s_Drag_Race">RuPaul's Drag Race</a></p><p><a href="http://instagram.com/rupaulsdragrace/">RuPaul's Drag Race (@rupaulsdragrace) • Instagram photos and videos</a></p><p><a href="http://imdb.com/title/tt0169491/">Junkyard Wars</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scattergories">Scattergories</a></p><p><a href="http://wired.com/story/history-poop-is-really-history-technology/">The History of Poop Is Really the History of Technology</a></p><p><a href="http://cnn.com/2019/10/28/tech/artificial-intelligence-poop-training/index.html">How your poop can help train AI </a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_Erikson">Erik Erikson</a></p><p><a href="https://www.simplypsychology.org/erik-erikson.html">Erikson's Stages of Development</a></p><p><a href="https://www.squattypotty.com/?srsltid=AfmBOorsu8QNoFf_8VzDMo0x11iq7-t8CSksjDfq33G5yaT8tMUe1tnQ">Squatty Potty</a></p><p><a href="http://harvard.com/book/toilets_of_the_world/">Toilets of the World - Harvard Book Store</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbYWhdLO43Q">Pooping Rainbow Soft Serve Unicorn</a></p><p><a href="https://www.squattypotty.com/products/dookie-plush-unicorn?srsltid=AfmBOoquefaujdbHTWoup76ygh7CrE7miHAIqM7enQ35KN9IrDNuDQkq">squattypotty.com/products/dookie-plush-unicorn?srsltid=AfmBO…DQkq</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dude_Wipes">Dude Wipes</a></p><p><a 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href="https://www.pristinesprays.com/collections/toilet-paper-sprays?srsltid=AfmBOope4LtzGvSPm2DOedGindRayiG3j_p8IyX3bS5REyepxdDaJLFk">Toilet Paper Sprays | Biodegradable Flushable Wipes | Pristine Sprays</a></p><p><a href="https://therokuchannel.roku.com/details/d2c1397576065492a30b905226d840f4/the-great-american-baking-show">Watch The Great American Baking Show (2023) Online for Free | The Roku Channel | Roku</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/thegreatamericanbakingshow/">The Great American Baking Show (@thegreatamericanbakingshow) • Instagram photos and videos</a></p><p>Great British Bake Off - <a href="https://thegreatbritishbakeoff.co.uk/">Homepage</a></p><p><a href="https://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-great-british-bake-off">Watch The Great British Bake Off</a></p><p>Check out our previous episode with <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/1325-2/">Jackson Bird</a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/transmission/id1228328203">Transmission</a> podcast</p><p> </p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p> </p><p>Music:</p><p>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.</p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  </p><p><a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a></p><p>Spaceship by Lesion X </p><p><a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a></p><p>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0</p><p>Free Download / Stream: </p><p><a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a></p><p>Free Download / Stream: </p><p><a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a></p><p>Music promoted by Audio Library</p><p><a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a></p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 27 Sep 2024 18:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Barry Kudrowitz, Henry Jenkins, Colin Maclay)</author>
      <link>https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/?p=1363</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we dive into the fascinating journey of Barry, a visionary who started as an aspiring theme park ride designer and evolved into a groundbreaking toy creator and educator. We explore how divergent and convergent thinking shape creativity, and how toys serve as more than just playthings – they're tools for limitless imagination. From Lego’s transformation to society’s expectations on toy use, we challenge the restrictions imposed on children’s creative freedom. Discover how kids naturally hybridize toys like Barbies and action figures, and why the industry’s focus on specialization might be stifling their innovation. We also examine the role of franchising in shaping toy creativity, and dive into the often-overlooked world of industrial design, pondering how media could elevate its visibility. And yes, we even touch on poop technology! </p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://x.com/kudrowitz">x.com/kudrowitz</a></p><p><a href="https://design.umn.edu/directory/barry-m-kudrowitz">design.umn.edu/directory/barry-m-kudrowitz</a></p><p><a href="https://www.routledge.com/Sparking-Creativity-How-Play-and-Humor-Fuel-Innovation-and-Design/Kudrowitz/p/book/9781032232157">Sparking Creativity: How Play and Humor Fuel Innovation and Design</a></p><p>MIT East Campus: <a href="https://betterworld.mit.edu/building-tradition-with-an-east-campus-roller-coaster/">Building Tradition with an East Campus Roller Coaster</a></p><p><a href="https://meche.mit.edu/sites/default/files/cv/drwallac_CV.pdf">David Robert Wallace</a></p><p><a href="https://nerf.fandom.com/wiki/Nerf_Super_Soaker">Nerf Super Soaker</a></p><p><a href="https://cmsw.mit.edu/education/comparative-media-studies/">Comparative Media Studies Degree Programs MIT</a></p><p><a href="https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/humor/">Incongruity theory of humor</a></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Jake-Adventure-Handmade-Plush-inches/dp/B0BY73SKN2?th=1">Jake The Dog Adventure Time Handmade Plush Toys (12 inches)</a></p><p><a href="https://youtu.be/bUfCMsCe5BA?si=i9aYUz2KwEzx-0Jq">The Lego Movie</a></p><p><a href="https://www.lego.com/en-us/themes/harry-potter?gclid=CjwKCAjwl6-3BhBWEiwApN6_klhZOxavRCeF43xL7nkat92uCwnM6N-MY4OxpGLH29JZZ_ahOsHs3hoCrlwQAvD_BwE&ef_id=CjwKCAjwl6-3BhBWEiwApN6_klhZOxavRCeF43xL7nkat92uCwnM6N-MY4OxpGLH29JZZ_ahOsHs3hoCrlwQAvD_BwE%3AG%3As&s_kwcid=AL%21790%213%21675177432666%21b%21%21g%21%21lego+harry+potter%2120583881412%21154734200795&cmp=KAC-INI-GOOGUS-GO-US_GL-EN-RE-PS-BUY-EXPLORE-HARRY_POTTER_TM-SHOP-THINT-MM-ALL-CIDNA00000-THEME-HARRY_POTTER_TM&gad_source=1">Harry Potter™ Toys and Gifts | Official LEGO® Shop US</a></p><p><a href="https://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Rocket_Raccoon">Rocket Racoon</a></p><p><a href="https://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Tinkerer">Tinkerer</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burn_Notice">Burn Notice</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherlock_Holmes_(2009_film)">Sherlock Holmes (2009 film)</a></p><p><a href="https://asana.com/resources/convergent-vs-divergent">Convergent vs. Divergent Thinking: Finding Balance [2024] • Asana</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torrance_Tests_of_Creative_Thinking">Torrance Tests of Creative Thinking</a></p><p><a href="https://www.melissaanddoug.com/collections/shop-all-pretend-play?srsltid=AfmBOooLvalj7Kmu0bKevwGMUz1dYLykgA_-qzMBB3HqZhLZEdUWtC2J">Pretend Play Toys and Play Sets</a></p><p><a href="http://lego.com/en-us">Home | Official LEGO® Shop US</a></p><p><a href="https://brickipedia.fandom.com/wiki/The_LEGO_Movie_(theme)">The LEGO Movie (theme)</a></p><p><a href="https://toystory.disney.com/">Toy Story | Official Disney Site</a></p><p><a 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Collection</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flamin%27_Hot">Flamin' Hot</a></p><p><a href="http://imdb.com/title/tt16419074/">Air</a></p><p><a href="https://tetris.com/">Tetris</a></p><p><a href="https://tetris.com/play-tetris">Play Tetris | Free Online Game</a></p><p><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt21867434/">BlackBerry</a></p><p><a href="http://hulu.com/series/project-runway-6fa35fc5-00e4-400e-9529-640c064fc982">Project Runway</a></p><p><a href="https://rupaulsdragrace.fandom.com/wiki/RuPaul%27s_Drag_Race">RuPaul's Drag Race</a></p><p><a href="http://instagram.com/rupaulsdragrace/">RuPaul's Drag Race (@rupaulsdragrace) • Instagram photos and videos</a></p><p><a href="http://imdb.com/title/tt0169491/">Junkyard Wars</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scattergories">Scattergories</a></p><p><a href="http://wired.com/story/history-poop-is-really-history-technology/">The History of Poop Is Really the History of Technology</a></p><p><a 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href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/transmission/id1228328203">Transmission</a> podcast</p><p> </p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p> </p><p>Music:</p><p>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.</p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  </p><p><a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a></p><p>Spaceship by Lesion X </p><p><a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a></p><p>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0</p><p>Free Download / Stream: </p><p><a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a></p><p>Free Download / Stream: </p><p><a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a></p><p>Music promoted by Audio Library</p><p><a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a></p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://climateliteracy.umn.edu/grace-dillon">Grace L. Dillon</a> is an American academic and author. She is a professor in the Indigenous Nations Studies Program, in the School of Gender, Race, and Nations, at <a href="https://www.pdx.edu/profile/grace-dillon">Portland State University</a>. She received her PhD in literary studies with an emphasis in sixteenth-century literature, and her recent research regards Science fiction studies, especially the use of science fiction by indigenous peoples around the world. Similar to the concept of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afrofuturism">Afrofuturism</a>, Dillon is best known for coining the term <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_Futurisms">Indigenous Futurisms</a>, which is a movement consisting of art, literature and other forms of media which express Indigenous perspectives of the past, present and future in the context of science fiction and related sub-genres. Dillon is the editor of <a href="https://uapress.arizona.edu/book/walking-the-clouds"><i>Walking the Clouds: An Anthology of Indigenous Science Fiction</i></a>, which is the first anthology of Indigenous science fiction short stories, published by the University of Arizona Press in 2012. Previously, Dillon has edited <a href="https://osupress.oregonstate.edu/index.php/book/hive-of-dreams"><i>Hive of Dreams: Contemporary Science Fiction from the Pacific Northwest</i></a>, which was published in 2003 by Oregon State University Press. This is an anthology of science fiction from writers living in the Pacific Northwest, and features works from authors such as <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Bear">Greg Bear</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octavia_E._Butler">Octavia Butler</a>, and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molly_Gloss">Molly Gloss</a>. She also coedited <a href="https://www.routledge.com/The-Routledge-Handbook-of-CoFuturisms/Taylor-LavenderIII-Dillon-Chattopadhyay/p/book/9780367330613"><i>The Routledge Handbook of CoFuturisms</i></a> with Taryne Jade Taylor, Isiah Lavender III, and Bodhisattva Chattopadhyay. Here, we discuss with Grace her origins into science fiction and the mentorships she received from the distinguished feminist science fiction writer, <a href="https://www.ursulakleguin.com/">Ursula K. LaGuin</a>. We define the concept of Indigenous Futurisms and its origins, taking time to understand the representation of the future and of tradition and what indigenous scientists have taught us about environmental sustainability. She also discusses the genre in other media, including film, television, and graphic novels, all of which are experiencing the growth of native contributions in recent years.</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>In the article that inspired the episode, friend of the podcast Jeff Yang wrote about indigenous responses to James Cameron’s <i>Avatar:</i><br /><a href="https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/04/opinions/avatar-the-way-of-water-appropriation-yang/index.html">Opinion: The awkward truth about the new ‘Avatar’ is far bigger than its bottom line | CNN</a></p><p><i>Grace Dillon Books</i><br /><a href="https://uapress.arizona.edu/book/walking-the-clouds"><i>Walking the Clouds: An Anthology of Indigeneous Science Fiction</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.routledge.com/The-Routledge-Handbook-of-CoFuturisms/Taylor-LavenderIII-Dillon-Chattopadhyay/p/book/9780367330613"><i>The Routledge Handbook on Co-Futurisms</i></a></p><p>Her Mentor:<br /><a href="https://www.ursulakleguin.com/">Ursula K. LaGuin</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dispossessed"><i>The Dispossessed</i></a></p><p>Futurisms and other Science Fiction Subgenres:<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXvFauWtDWM">Indigenous Futurisms</a><br /><a href="https://www.tate.org.uk/art/art-terms/a/afrofuturism#:~:text=Afrofuturism%20is%20a%20cultural%20aesthetic,with%20their%20forgotten%20African%20ancestry">Afrofuturism</a><br /><a href="https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/afrofuturism-africanfuturism-and-the-language-of-black-speculative-literature/">African Futurisms</a><br /><a href="https://www.dazeddigital.com/music/article/15037/1/al-qadiri-al-maria-on-gulf-futurism">Gulf Futurisms</a><br /><a href="https://jellomenorah.substack.com/p/what-is-jewish-futurism">Israeli Futurisms</a><br /><a href="https://www.artforum.com/columns/asia-futurism-229189/">Asian Futurism</a><br /><a href="https://guides.loc.gov/latinx-film-guide/latinx-futurism">Latinx Futurism</a><br /><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Time-Shifts-Experiences-Slipping-Future/dp/1644112396">Native Time Slips</a><br /><a href="https://alternatehistories.com/">Alternate Histories</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splatterpunk">Splatterpunk</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slipstream_genre">Slipstream</a></p><p>Roots of Afrofuturism:<br /><a href="https://haenfler.sites.grinnell.edu/afrofuturism/">Mark Dery</a>; <a href="https://www.markdery.com/books/flame-wars/"><i>Flame Wars</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/samuel-delany-and-the-past-and-future-of-science-fiction">Samuel R. Delaney</a><br /><a href="https://www.uvic.ca/victoria-colloquium/assets/docs/Black%20to%20the%20Future.pdf">Tricia Rose</a><br /><a href="http://www.alondranelson.com/books/afrofuturism">Alondra Nelson</a><br /><a href="https://nnedi.com/">Nnedi Okorafor</a></p><p>Indigenous cultures and policies:<br /><a href="https://social.desa.un.org/issues/indigenous-peoples/united-nations-declaration-on-the-rights-of-indigenous-peoples">UNDRIP</a><br /><a href="https://www.ihs.gov/lgbt/health/twospirit/">Two Spirit</a><br /><a href="https://ecampusontario.pressbooks.pub/indigstudies/chapter/lost-generations/">Lost generations</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mi%27kmaq_language">Mi’kmaq Language</a><br /><a href="https://www.glamour.com/story/american-genocide-podcast-crystal-echo-hawk">Crystal Echo Hawk</a></p><p>Native Science and Scientists:<br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregory_Cajete">Gregory Cajete</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-context_and_low-context_cultures">High context vs low context science</a><br /><a href="https://milkweed.org/author/robin-wall-kimmerer">Robin Wall Kimmerer</a>; <a href="https://milkweed.org/book/braiding-sweetgrass"><i>Braiding Sweetgrass</i></a><br /><a href="https://ncse.ngo/files/pub/evolution/excerpt--globalb.pdf">Global Weirdness</a><br /><a href="https://uapress.arizona.edu/book/spiral-to-the-stars"><i>Spiral to the Stars</i></a><br /><a href="https://kylewhyte.marcom.cal.msu.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2018/07/IndigenousClimateChangeStudies.pdf">Kyle Whyte</a><br /><a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctv301dn7">Indigenous Mobilities</a><br /><a href="https://education.nationalgeographic.org/resource/anthropocene/">Anthropocene</a></p><p>Literary Works (including Graphic Novels):<br /><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/39082248"><i>Moon of the Crusted Snow</i></a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louise_Erdrich">Louise Erdich</a>; <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34217599-future-home-of-the-living-god"><i>Future Home of the Living God</i></a><br /><a href="https://clairegcoleman.com/">Claire G. Colman</a>; <a href="https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/they-do-not-come-in-peace-on-claire-g-colemans-terra-nullius"><i>Terra Nullius</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.npr.org/transcripts/533653471">Sherman Alexie</a><br /><a href="https://birchbarkbooks.com/products/moonshot-volume-1"><i>Moonshot: The Indigenous Comics Collection</i></a></p><p>Film and Television:<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5UiqUN9u94"><i>Reservation Dogs</i></a><br /><a href="https://pbskids.org/molly"><i>Molly of Denali</i></a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taika_Waititi">Taika Waititi</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_Raiders_(2021_film)"><i>Night Raiders</i></a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Barnaby">Jeff Barnaby</a><br /><a href="https://alexonfilm.com/2018/03/28/file-under-miscellaneous-2010/"><i>File Under Miscellaneous</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.syfy.com/resident-alien"><i>Resident Alien</i></a>;  <a href="https://residentalien.fandom.com/wiki/Radio_Harry">“Radio Harry”</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfrao-pIVf0">Helen Haig Brown</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoLvf8a4mQ4"><i>The Cave</i></a><br /><a href="http://wayneblair.com/">Wayne Blair</a>; <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpMrzFHPnoI"><i>Cleverman</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/startrek/comments/ch7v9/star_trek_races_and_the_nationscultures_they/">Alien races on <i>Star Trek</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2023/05/richard-dreyfuss-laments-he-will-never-have-a-chance-to-play-a-black-man">Richard Dreyfuss</a></p><p>Further Resources suggested by Grace Dillon:<br /><a href="https://birchbarkbooks.com/products/indigenous-community?_pos=1&_sid=bddc04437&_ss=r"><i>Indigenous Community: Rekindling the Teachings of the Seventh Fire</i></a> by Gregory Cajete (2015)<br /><a href="https://birchbarkbooks.com/products/sand-talk"><i>Sandtalk: How Indigenous Thinking Can Save the World</i></a> by Tyson Yunkaporta (2020)<br /><a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/675699/fresh-banana-leaves-by-jessica-hernandez/"><i>Fresh Banana Leaves: Healing Indigenous Landscapes through Indigenous Science</i></a> by Jessica Hernandez (2022)<br /><a href="https://www.amazon.com/We-Rise-Guardians-Building-Movement/dp/1635650674"><i>We Rise: The Earth Guardians Guide to Building a Movement that Restores the Planet</i></a> by Xiuhtezcatl Martinez (2017)<br /><a href="https://www.wilsoncenter.org/book/welp-climate-change-and-arctic-identities"><i>Welp: Climate Change and Arctic Identities</i></a> by Michaela Stith (2021)<br /><a href="https://www.danielhwilson.com/">Daniel H. Wilson</a> – <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Robopocalypse-Novel-Daniel-H-Wilson/dp/0385533853/ref=tmm_hrd_title_0"><i>Robopocalypse</i></a>; <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Robogenesis-Novel-Daniel-H-Wilson/dp/0385537093"><i>Robogenesis</i></a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebecca_Roanhorse">Rebecca Roanhorse</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng5eyOfL8qM"><i>Antlers</i></a> – Directed by Scott Cooper (2021)</p><p>Check out these previous episodes:</p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-73-increasing-visibility-native-communities-crystal-echo-hawk/">Episode 73: Increasing Visibility is Existential for Native Communities, with Crystal Echo Hawk</a><br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-83-indigenous-voices-environmental-justice-candis-callison-julian-brave-noisecat/">Episode 83: Indigenous Voices for Environmental Justice with Candis Callison & Julian Brave NoiseCat</a></p>
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      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Grace Dillon, Colin Maclay, Henry Jenkins)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://climateliteracy.umn.edu/grace-dillon">Grace L. Dillon</a> is an American academic and author. She is a professor in the Indigenous Nations Studies Program, in the School of Gender, Race, and Nations, at <a href="https://www.pdx.edu/profile/grace-dillon">Portland State University</a>. She received her PhD in literary studies with an emphasis in sixteenth-century literature, and her recent research regards Science fiction studies, especially the use of science fiction by indigenous peoples around the world. Similar to the concept of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afrofuturism">Afrofuturism</a>, Dillon is best known for coining the term <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_Futurisms">Indigenous Futurisms</a>, which is a movement consisting of art, literature and other forms of media which express Indigenous perspectives of the past, present and future in the context of science fiction and related sub-genres. Dillon is the editor of <a href="https://uapress.arizona.edu/book/walking-the-clouds"><i>Walking the Clouds: An Anthology of Indigenous Science Fiction</i></a>, which is the first anthology of Indigenous science fiction short stories, published by the University of Arizona Press in 2012. Previously, Dillon has edited <a href="https://osupress.oregonstate.edu/index.php/book/hive-of-dreams"><i>Hive of Dreams: Contemporary Science Fiction from the Pacific Northwest</i></a>, which was published in 2003 by Oregon State University Press. This is an anthology of science fiction from writers living in the Pacific Northwest, and features works from authors such as <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Bear">Greg Bear</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octavia_E._Butler">Octavia Butler</a>, and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molly_Gloss">Molly Gloss</a>. She also coedited <a href="https://www.routledge.com/The-Routledge-Handbook-of-CoFuturisms/Taylor-LavenderIII-Dillon-Chattopadhyay/p/book/9780367330613"><i>The Routledge Handbook of CoFuturisms</i></a> with Taryne Jade Taylor, Isiah Lavender III, and Bodhisattva Chattopadhyay. Here, we discuss with Grace her origins into science fiction and the mentorships she received from the distinguished feminist science fiction writer, <a href="https://www.ursulakleguin.com/">Ursula K. LaGuin</a>. We define the concept of Indigenous Futurisms and its origins, taking time to understand the representation of the future and of tradition and what indigenous scientists have taught us about environmental sustainability. She also discusses the genre in other media, including film, television, and graphic novels, all of which are experiencing the growth of native contributions in recent years.</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>In the article that inspired the episode, friend of the podcast Jeff Yang wrote about indigenous responses to James Cameron’s <i>Avatar:</i><br /><a href="https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/04/opinions/avatar-the-way-of-water-appropriation-yang/index.html">Opinion: The awkward truth about the new ‘Avatar’ is far bigger than its bottom line | CNN</a></p><p><i>Grace Dillon Books</i><br /><a href="https://uapress.arizona.edu/book/walking-the-clouds"><i>Walking the Clouds: An Anthology of Indigeneous Science Fiction</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.routledge.com/The-Routledge-Handbook-of-CoFuturisms/Taylor-LavenderIII-Dillon-Chattopadhyay/p/book/9780367330613"><i>The Routledge Handbook on Co-Futurisms</i></a></p><p>Her Mentor:<br /><a href="https://www.ursulakleguin.com/">Ursula K. LaGuin</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dispossessed"><i>The Dispossessed</i></a></p><p>Futurisms and other Science Fiction Subgenres:<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXvFauWtDWM">Indigenous Futurisms</a><br /><a href="https://www.tate.org.uk/art/art-terms/a/afrofuturism#:~:text=Afrofuturism%20is%20a%20cultural%20aesthetic,with%20their%20forgotten%20African%20ancestry">Afrofuturism</a><br /><a href="https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/afrofuturism-africanfuturism-and-the-language-of-black-speculative-literature/">African Futurisms</a><br /><a href="https://www.dazeddigital.com/music/article/15037/1/al-qadiri-al-maria-on-gulf-futurism">Gulf Futurisms</a><br /><a href="https://jellomenorah.substack.com/p/what-is-jewish-futurism">Israeli Futurisms</a><br /><a href="https://www.artforum.com/columns/asia-futurism-229189/">Asian Futurism</a><br /><a href="https://guides.loc.gov/latinx-film-guide/latinx-futurism">Latinx Futurism</a><br /><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Time-Shifts-Experiences-Slipping-Future/dp/1644112396">Native Time Slips</a><br /><a href="https://alternatehistories.com/">Alternate Histories</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splatterpunk">Splatterpunk</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slipstream_genre">Slipstream</a></p><p>Roots of Afrofuturism:<br /><a href="https://haenfler.sites.grinnell.edu/afrofuturism/">Mark Dery</a>; <a href="https://www.markdery.com/books/flame-wars/"><i>Flame Wars</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/samuel-delany-and-the-past-and-future-of-science-fiction">Samuel R. Delaney</a><br /><a href="https://www.uvic.ca/victoria-colloquium/assets/docs/Black%20to%20the%20Future.pdf">Tricia Rose</a><br /><a href="http://www.alondranelson.com/books/afrofuturism">Alondra Nelson</a><br /><a href="https://nnedi.com/">Nnedi Okorafor</a></p><p>Indigenous cultures and policies:<br /><a href="https://social.desa.un.org/issues/indigenous-peoples/united-nations-declaration-on-the-rights-of-indigenous-peoples">UNDRIP</a><br /><a href="https://www.ihs.gov/lgbt/health/twospirit/">Two Spirit</a><br /><a href="https://ecampusontario.pressbooks.pub/indigstudies/chapter/lost-generations/">Lost generations</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mi%27kmaq_language">Mi’kmaq Language</a><br /><a href="https://www.glamour.com/story/american-genocide-podcast-crystal-echo-hawk">Crystal Echo Hawk</a></p><p>Native Science and Scientists:<br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregory_Cajete">Gregory Cajete</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-context_and_low-context_cultures">High context vs low context science</a><br /><a href="https://milkweed.org/author/robin-wall-kimmerer">Robin Wall Kimmerer</a>; <a href="https://milkweed.org/book/braiding-sweetgrass"><i>Braiding Sweetgrass</i></a><br /><a href="https://ncse.ngo/files/pub/evolution/excerpt--globalb.pdf">Global Weirdness</a><br /><a href="https://uapress.arizona.edu/book/spiral-to-the-stars"><i>Spiral to the Stars</i></a><br /><a href="https://kylewhyte.marcom.cal.msu.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2018/07/IndigenousClimateChangeStudies.pdf">Kyle Whyte</a><br /><a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctv301dn7">Indigenous Mobilities</a><br /><a href="https://education.nationalgeographic.org/resource/anthropocene/">Anthropocene</a></p><p>Literary Works (including Graphic Novels):<br /><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/39082248"><i>Moon of the Crusted Snow</i></a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louise_Erdrich">Louise Erdich</a>; <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34217599-future-home-of-the-living-god"><i>Future Home of the Living God</i></a><br /><a href="https://clairegcoleman.com/">Claire G. Colman</a>; <a href="https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/they-do-not-come-in-peace-on-claire-g-colemans-terra-nullius"><i>Terra Nullius</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.npr.org/transcripts/533653471">Sherman Alexie</a><br /><a href="https://birchbarkbooks.com/products/moonshot-volume-1"><i>Moonshot: The Indigenous Comics Collection</i></a></p><p>Film and Television:<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5UiqUN9u94"><i>Reservation Dogs</i></a><br /><a href="https://pbskids.org/molly"><i>Molly of Denali</i></a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taika_Waititi">Taika Waititi</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_Raiders_(2021_film)"><i>Night Raiders</i></a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Barnaby">Jeff Barnaby</a><br /><a href="https://alexonfilm.com/2018/03/28/file-under-miscellaneous-2010/"><i>File Under Miscellaneous</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.syfy.com/resident-alien"><i>Resident Alien</i></a>;  <a href="https://residentalien.fandom.com/wiki/Radio_Harry">“Radio Harry”</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfrao-pIVf0">Helen Haig Brown</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoLvf8a4mQ4"><i>The Cave</i></a><br /><a href="http://wayneblair.com/">Wayne Blair</a>; <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpMrzFHPnoI"><i>Cleverman</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/startrek/comments/ch7v9/star_trek_races_and_the_nationscultures_they/">Alien races on <i>Star Trek</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2023/05/richard-dreyfuss-laments-he-will-never-have-a-chance-to-play-a-black-man">Richard Dreyfuss</a></p><p>Further Resources suggested by Grace Dillon:<br /><a href="https://birchbarkbooks.com/products/indigenous-community?_pos=1&_sid=bddc04437&_ss=r"><i>Indigenous Community: Rekindling the Teachings of the Seventh Fire</i></a> by Gregory Cajete (2015)<br /><a href="https://birchbarkbooks.com/products/sand-talk"><i>Sandtalk: How Indigenous Thinking Can Save the World</i></a> by Tyson Yunkaporta (2020)<br /><a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/675699/fresh-banana-leaves-by-jessica-hernandez/"><i>Fresh Banana Leaves: Healing Indigenous Landscapes through Indigenous Science</i></a> by Jessica Hernandez (2022)<br /><a href="https://www.amazon.com/We-Rise-Guardians-Building-Movement/dp/1635650674"><i>We Rise: The Earth Guardians Guide to Building a Movement that Restores the Planet</i></a> by Xiuhtezcatl Martinez (2017)<br /><a href="https://www.wilsoncenter.org/book/welp-climate-change-and-arctic-identities"><i>Welp: Climate Change and Arctic Identities</i></a> by Michaela Stith (2021)<br /><a href="https://www.danielhwilson.com/">Daniel H. Wilson</a> – <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Robopocalypse-Novel-Daniel-H-Wilson/dp/0385533853/ref=tmm_hrd_title_0"><i>Robopocalypse</i></a>; <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Robogenesis-Novel-Daniel-H-Wilson/dp/0385537093"><i>Robogenesis</i></a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebecca_Roanhorse">Rebecca Roanhorse</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng5eyOfL8qM"><i>Antlers</i></a> – Directed by Scott Cooper (2021)</p><p>Check out these previous episodes:</p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-73-increasing-visibility-native-communities-crystal-echo-hawk/">Episode 73: Increasing Visibility is Existential for Native Communities, with Crystal Echo Hawk</a><br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-83-indigenous-voices-environmental-justice-candis-callison-julian-brave-noisecat/">Episode 83: Indigenous Voices for Environmental Justice with Candis Callison & Julian Brave NoiseCat</a></p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Caty Borum, Executive Director of the <a href="https://cmsimpact.org/team/caty-borum/">Center for Media & Social Impact</a> and Provost Associate Professor in the School of Communication at American University, joins us again to discuss her new book, <a href="https://nyupress.org/9781479810857/the-revolution-will-be-hilarious/"><i>The Revolution Will Be Hilarious: Comedy for Social Change and Civic Power</i></a>. Starting with what Caty finds funny and how she uses comedy as part of her practice as an educator, we go on to talk about how comedy can allow us to approach territory where we feel uncomfortable and provide a forum to share the diversity of our lived experiences. Drawing on Caty’s experiences working with comedy writers and comedians, we explore what’s necessary to create comedy that engages audiences around societal issues and helps move social change. Of course, we couldn’t resist sampling some of Caty’s favorite clips along the way, which are linked below.</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://cmsimpact.org/team/caty-borum/">Caty Borum - Center for Media and Social Impact</a><br /><a href="https://nyupress.org/9781479810857/the-revolution-will-be-hilarious/"><i>The Revolution Will Be Hilarious: Comedy for Social Change and Civic Power</i></a> (2023, NYU Press)<br /><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://wamu.org/story/23/02/28/caty-borum-discusses-how-comedy-will-fuel-the-future-of-social-change/__;!!LIr3w8kk_Xxm!tdFXk8uNtHBKyhxyMzu_tou6me4Xk06wDLqU6DCMqONCKxgqCk6WSsU3ezlA6TpoNSJEEy9zBx8CkTzp$">Author Caty Borum discusses how comedy will fuel the future of social change (WAMU)</a><br /><a href="https://www.ucpress.edu/book/9780520299764/a-comedian-and-an-activist-walk-into-a-bar"><i>A Comedian and an Activist Walk into a Bar: The Serious Role of Comedy in Social Justice</i></a> (2020, Univ of California Press)<br /><a href="https://global.oup.com/academic/product/story-movements-9780190943424?cc=us&lang=en&"><i>Story Movements: How Documentaries Empower People and Inspire Social Change</i></a> (2020, Oxford University Press)<br /><a href="https://yesandlaughterlab.com/">Yes, And...Laughter Lab</a></p><p>Some of the videos we talked about:<br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inside_Amy_Schumer#Season_4_(2016)">Inside Amy Schumer - Season 4, Episode 3: "Guy-gles"</a><br /><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://youtu.be/98nNpzE6gIs__;!!LIr3w8kk_Xxm!rYVvEd-ruD2qzkAjtsKlZLJ-iZKNao9piQVa7vn9usOUMme8TGFNQ6XVbmlALlRFtuXWXjcWQSEGRXVz$">Georgia Tech - Freshman Convocation - Epic Welcome Speech</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ5F7fve4N0">Life's a F***ing Fantasy for Santos - A Randy Rainbow Parody</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjkpPOwM6tM">You're Welcome America: Episode 3 Mental Health</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTnpQvinFZY">Ain't Your Mama's Heat Wave | Official Trailer | Think 100% FILMS</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwOY1xavgOM">The Hammer - Comedian Corey Forrester</a><br /><a href="https://www.primevideo.com/detail/The-Marvelous-Mrs-Maisel/0SKQT5MHXXQ50OZ9FXYRFVEQM7">The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel</a><br /><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13623580/">Reservation Dogs</a></p><p>Also, see the ongoing list of Guest Hosts for <i>The Daily Show</i> (and watch episodes) <a href="https://www.cc.com/topic/the-daily-show-guest-hosts">HERE</a></p><p>And check out our previous episodes:<br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-28-taking-risks-comedy-as-tool-for-social-justice/">Taking risks: Comedy as Tool for Social Justice, with Caty Borum</a><br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-75-play-participation-reanne-estrada-benjamin-stokes/">Play as a Precursor to Participation, with Reanne Estrada and Benjamin Stokes</a></p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caty Borum, Executive Director of the <a href="https://cmsimpact.org/team/caty-borum/">Center for Media & Social Impact</a> and Provost Associate Professor in the School of Communication at American University, joins us again to discuss her new book, <a href="https://nyupress.org/9781479810857/the-revolution-will-be-hilarious/"><i>The Revolution Will Be Hilarious: Comedy for Social Change and Civic Power</i></a>. Starting with what Caty finds funny and how she uses comedy as part of her practice as an educator, we go on to talk about how comedy can allow us to approach territory where we feel uncomfortable and provide a forum to share the diversity of our lived experiences. Drawing on Caty’s experiences working with comedy writers and comedians, we explore what’s necessary to create comedy that engages audiences around societal issues and helps move social change. Of course, we couldn’t resist sampling some of Caty’s favorite clips along the way, which are linked below.</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://cmsimpact.org/team/caty-borum/">Caty Borum - Center for Media and Social Impact</a><br /><a href="https://nyupress.org/9781479810857/the-revolution-will-be-hilarious/"><i>The Revolution Will Be Hilarious: Comedy for Social Change and Civic Power</i></a> (2023, NYU Press)<br /><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://wamu.org/story/23/02/28/caty-borum-discusses-how-comedy-will-fuel-the-future-of-social-change/__;!!LIr3w8kk_Xxm!tdFXk8uNtHBKyhxyMzu_tou6me4Xk06wDLqU6DCMqONCKxgqCk6WSsU3ezlA6TpoNSJEEy9zBx8CkTzp$">Author Caty Borum discusses how comedy will fuel the future of social change (WAMU)</a><br /><a href="https://www.ucpress.edu/book/9780520299764/a-comedian-and-an-activist-walk-into-a-bar"><i>A Comedian and an Activist Walk into a Bar: The Serious Role of Comedy in Social Justice</i></a> (2020, Univ of California Press)<br /><a href="https://global.oup.com/academic/product/story-movements-9780190943424?cc=us&lang=en&"><i>Story Movements: How Documentaries Empower People and Inspire Social Change</i></a> (2020, Oxford University Press)<br /><a href="https://yesandlaughterlab.com/">Yes, And...Laughter Lab</a></p><p>Some of the videos we talked about:<br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inside_Amy_Schumer#Season_4_(2016)">Inside Amy Schumer - Season 4, Episode 3: "Guy-gles"</a><br /><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://youtu.be/98nNpzE6gIs__;!!LIr3w8kk_Xxm!rYVvEd-ruD2qzkAjtsKlZLJ-iZKNao9piQVa7vn9usOUMme8TGFNQ6XVbmlALlRFtuXWXjcWQSEGRXVz$">Georgia Tech - Freshman Convocation - Epic Welcome Speech</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ5F7fve4N0">Life's a F***ing Fantasy for Santos - A Randy Rainbow Parody</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjkpPOwM6tM">You're Welcome America: Episode 3 Mental Health</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTnpQvinFZY">Ain't Your Mama's Heat Wave | Official Trailer | Think 100% FILMS</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwOY1xavgOM">The Hammer - Comedian Corey Forrester</a><br /><a href="https://www.primevideo.com/detail/The-Marvelous-Mrs-Maisel/0SKQT5MHXXQ50OZ9FXYRFVEQM7">The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel</a><br /><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13623580/">Reservation Dogs</a></p><p>Also, see the ongoing list of Guest Hosts for <i>The Daily Show</i> (and watch episodes) <a href="https://www.cc.com/topic/the-daily-show-guest-hosts">HERE</a></p><p>And check out our previous episodes:<br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-28-taking-risks-comedy-as-tool-for-social-justice/">Taking risks: Comedy as Tool for Social Justice, with Caty Borum</a><br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-75-play-participation-reanne-estrada-benjamin-stokes/">Play as a Precursor to Participation, with Reanne Estrada and Benjamin Stokes</a></p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In addition to being Henry’s former dissertation advisee, <a href="https://merylalper.com/">Meryl Alper</a> is am an <a href="https://camd.northeastern.edu/people/meryl-alper/">Associate Professor in the Department of Communication Studies</a> (College of Arts, Media, and Design) and Affiliate Associate Professor in the Department of Communication Sciences and Disorders (Bouvé College of Health Sciences) at Northeastern University. At Northeastern, she studies  the social, cultural, and health implications of communication technologies, with a focus on disability, digital media, and children and families’ technology use. Her books include <a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/digital-youth-disabilities"><i>Digital Youth with Disabilities</i></a> (MIT Press, 2014) and <a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262533973/giving-voice/"><i>Giving Voice: Mobile Communication, Disability, and Inequality</i></a> (MIT Press, 2017), which was awarded a 2018 PROSE Award Honorable Mention from the Association of American Publishers and the 2018 Outstanding Publication in the Sociology of Disability Award from the American Sociological Association. Her latest book, <a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262545365/kids-across-the-spectrums/"><i>Kids Across the Spectrums: Growing Up Autistic in the Digital Age</i></a> (MIT Press, 2023), explores the media and technology practices of young people on the autism spectrum, as well as what it means to be “social” in a socially mediated world.</p><p>She also drew on her professional experience in educational children’s media as a researcher, strategist, and consultant with Sesame Workshop, PBS KIDS, Nickelodeon, and Disney. In this conversation, we explore basic concepts such as “spectrum” and “neurodiversity” and what they mean for parents living with autistic children. We learn more about the methodologies she uses to learn more about families living with autism and how she incorporates the perspective of the children themselves in her research. We consider the role of schools and parents in helping to create a world where such students thrive. Above all, we dig deeper into their relationship with media, ranging from the ways media creates sensory experiences to the importance of games, from adaptive technology to fandom. We also consider how autistic people get represented across a range of media properties. And we close with the issue of what she would change about the world if she had magic powers.</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://merylalper.com/">Meryl Alper</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p_5rM3U6FQ">Meryl Alper  interviewed on <i>Imagine Otherwise</i> podcast </a><br /><a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262545365/kids-across-the-spectrums/"><i>Kids Across the Spectrums: Growing Up Autistic in the Digital Age</i></a><br /><a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262533973/giving-voice/"><i>Giving Voice: Mobile Communication, Disability, and Inequality</i></a><br /><a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/digital-youth-disabilities"><i>Digital Youth with Disabilities</i></a> <br /><a href="https://joanganzcooneycenter.org/publication/t-is-for-transmedia/">T is for Transmedia</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_in_autism#:~:text=Whether%20autism%20has%20mainly%20a,a%20disability%20on%20its%20own.">Debates about spectrum </a><br /><a href="https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/what-is-neurodiversity-202111232645">Neurodiversity</a><br /><a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2021/12/24/fandom-and-neurodiversity">Fandom and Neurodiversity</a><br /><a href="https://sites.ed.gov/idea/">Individuals with Disabilities Education Act</a></p><p>Other Researchers<br /><a href="https://blogs.uoregon.edu/autismhistoryproject/people/312-2/">Bruno Bettelheim</a><br /><a href="https://www.ed.ac.uk/profile/dr-sue-fletcher-watson">Sue Fletcher-Watson</a> <br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Silverman">Steve Silverman</a> –<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/310415/neurotribes-by-steve-silberman-foreword-by-oliver-sacks/"> Neurotribes</a> <br /><a href="https://kateringland.com/">Kathryn Ringland </a><br /><a href="https://www.marshallmcluhan.com/biography/">Marshall McLuhan </a></p><p>Media Mentioned<br /><a href="https://www.autcraft.com/">Autcraft</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roblox">Roblox </a><br /><a href="https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1303449806375460"><i>Big Bang Theory</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.mcgilldaily.com/2021/04/watching-abed-nadir-watching-myself/"><i>Community</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsaR-RQx37Q"><i>Atypical</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HHZ_LzXb5g"><i>The Good Doctor</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/17/rain-man-myth-autistic-people-dustin-hoffman-savant"><i>Rain Man</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.psychiatrist.com/news/sia-says-she-has-fully-become-myself-after-unmasking-autism-diagnosis/">Sia</a> – <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_(2021_film)#:~:text=8%20External%20links-,Plot,%2C%20Millie%2C%20who%20raised%20Music."><i>Music</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sod4qwe5UCg"><i>Heartbreak High</i></a> – <a href="https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-12/heartbreak-high-chlo%C3%A9-hayden-disability-royal-commission/101751600">Chloe Hadden</a><br />“<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CctDL-Pzlo0">Loop</a>”<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ2WX99QXXY"><i>The Good Fight</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxeXECe2t-c"><i>Extraordinary Attorney Woo</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOXDD3atWco"><i>Wonder</i></a><br /><a href="https://warriorcats.com/"><i>Warrior Cats</i></a><br /><a href="https://pbskids.org/">PBS Kids</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBvOTpx1yvY"><i>Hero Elementary</i></a></p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2024 13:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Meryl Alper, Henry Jenkins, Colin Maclay)</author>
      <link>https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/?p=1344</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to being Henry’s former dissertation advisee, <a href="https://merylalper.com/">Meryl Alper</a> is am an <a href="https://camd.northeastern.edu/people/meryl-alper/">Associate Professor in the Department of Communication Studies</a> (College of Arts, Media, and Design) and Affiliate Associate Professor in the Department of Communication Sciences and Disorders (Bouvé College of Health Sciences) at Northeastern University. At Northeastern, she studies  the social, cultural, and health implications of communication technologies, with a focus on disability, digital media, and children and families’ technology use. Her books include <a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/digital-youth-disabilities"><i>Digital Youth with Disabilities</i></a> (MIT Press, 2014) and <a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262533973/giving-voice/"><i>Giving Voice: Mobile Communication, Disability, and Inequality</i></a> (MIT Press, 2017), which was awarded a 2018 PROSE Award Honorable Mention from the Association of American Publishers and the 2018 Outstanding Publication in the Sociology of Disability Award from the American Sociological Association. Her latest book, <a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262545365/kids-across-the-spectrums/"><i>Kids Across the Spectrums: Growing Up Autistic in the Digital Age</i></a> (MIT Press, 2023), explores the media and technology practices of young people on the autism spectrum, as well as what it means to be “social” in a socially mediated world.</p><p>She also drew on her professional experience in educational children’s media as a researcher, strategist, and consultant with Sesame Workshop, PBS KIDS, Nickelodeon, and Disney. In this conversation, we explore basic concepts such as “spectrum” and “neurodiversity” and what they mean for parents living with autistic children. We learn more about the methodologies she uses to learn more about families living with autism and how she incorporates the perspective of the children themselves in her research. We consider the role of schools and parents in helping to create a world where such students thrive. Above all, we dig deeper into their relationship with media, ranging from the ways media creates sensory experiences to the importance of games, from adaptive technology to fandom. We also consider how autistic people get represented across a range of media properties. And we close with the issue of what she would change about the world if she had magic powers.</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://merylalper.com/">Meryl Alper</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p_5rM3U6FQ">Meryl Alper  interviewed on <i>Imagine Otherwise</i> podcast </a><br /><a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262545365/kids-across-the-spectrums/"><i>Kids Across the Spectrums: Growing Up Autistic in the Digital Age</i></a><br /><a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262533973/giving-voice/"><i>Giving Voice: Mobile Communication, Disability, and Inequality</i></a><br /><a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/digital-youth-disabilities"><i>Digital Youth with Disabilities</i></a> <br /><a href="https://joanganzcooneycenter.org/publication/t-is-for-transmedia/">T is for Transmedia</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_in_autism#:~:text=Whether%20autism%20has%20mainly%20a,a%20disability%20on%20its%20own.">Debates about spectrum </a><br /><a href="https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/what-is-neurodiversity-202111232645">Neurodiversity</a><br /><a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2021/12/24/fandom-and-neurodiversity">Fandom and Neurodiversity</a><br /><a href="https://sites.ed.gov/idea/">Individuals with Disabilities Education Act</a></p><p>Other Researchers<br /><a href="https://blogs.uoregon.edu/autismhistoryproject/people/312-2/">Bruno Bettelheim</a><br /><a href="https://www.ed.ac.uk/profile/dr-sue-fletcher-watson">Sue Fletcher-Watson</a> <br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Silverman">Steve Silverman</a> –<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/310415/neurotribes-by-steve-silberman-foreword-by-oliver-sacks/"> Neurotribes</a> <br /><a href="https://kateringland.com/">Kathryn Ringland </a><br /><a href="https://www.marshallmcluhan.com/biography/">Marshall McLuhan </a></p><p>Media Mentioned<br /><a href="https://www.autcraft.com/">Autcraft</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roblox">Roblox </a><br /><a href="https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1303449806375460"><i>Big Bang Theory</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.mcgilldaily.com/2021/04/watching-abed-nadir-watching-myself/"><i>Community</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsaR-RQx37Q"><i>Atypical</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HHZ_LzXb5g"><i>The Good Doctor</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/17/rain-man-myth-autistic-people-dustin-hoffman-savant"><i>Rain Man</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.psychiatrist.com/news/sia-says-she-has-fully-become-myself-after-unmasking-autism-diagnosis/">Sia</a> – <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_(2021_film)#:~:text=8%20External%20links-,Plot,%2C%20Millie%2C%20who%20raised%20Music."><i>Music</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sod4qwe5UCg"><i>Heartbreak High</i></a> – <a href="https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-12/heartbreak-high-chlo%C3%A9-hayden-disability-royal-commission/101751600">Chloe Hadden</a><br />“<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CctDL-Pzlo0">Loop</a>”<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ2WX99QXXY"><i>The Good Fight</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxeXECe2t-c"><i>Extraordinary Attorney Woo</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOXDD3atWco"><i>Wonder</i></a><br /><a href="https://warriorcats.com/"><i>Warrior Cats</i></a><br /><a href="https://pbskids.org/">PBS Kids</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBvOTpx1yvY"><i>Hero Elementary</i></a></p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Critical Media Project with Alison Trope and DJ Johnson</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week we’re joined by USC Faculty colleagues <a href="https://annenberg.usc.edu/faculty/alison-trope">Alison Trope</a>, Clinical Professor of Communication, and <a href="https://cinema.usc.edu/directories/profile.cfm?id=24301">DJ Johnson</a>, Associate Professor of Practice, Cinematic Arts. Together they direct the <a href="https://criticalmediaproject.org/">Critical Media Projec</a>t (CMP), a free media literacy web resource for educators and students (ages 8-21) that enhances young people’s critical thinking and empathy, and builds on their capacities to advocate for change around questions of identity. The website includes around 700 pieces of media and wraparound pedagogical resources that focus on seeing across difference, in order to surface questions that can then be addressed in the open. It can be used independently, and is also <a href="https://criticalmediaproject.org/applying-the-common-core/">aligned with the Common Core</a> for use in schools. Throughout this episode we’ll listen to media examples with Alison & DJ to discuss how CMP works and how it can be used.</p><p>Alison and DJ begin by telling us about their own media backgrounds, and how they reconcile their own positionality in these issues of identity when teaching and bring that conversation into the classroom, so it can become a shared space of engagement for all. After digging into some of the areas of identity currently tackled by CMP, we discuss how students and educators have engaged with it, both by using the resources as well as creating their own media, and through their latest curricular project, the fully-online <a href="https://criticalmakerslab.org/">Critical Makers Lab</a>.</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://annenberg.usc.edu/faculty/alison-trope">Alison Trope</a><br /><a href="https://cinema.usc.edu/directories/profile.cfm?id=24301">DJ Johnson</a><br /><a href="https://criticalmediaproject.org/">Critical Media Project</a><br /><a href="https://criticalmakerslab.org/">Critical Makers Lab</a><br /><a href="https://criticalmediaproject.org/diy-activities/">CMP DIY Activities</a>:<br /><a href="https://criticalmediaproject.org/activities/i-am-but-im-not/">I am, but I'm not...</a><br /><a href="https://criticalmediaproject.org/activities/making-change/">Making Change</a><br /><a href="https://criticalmediaproject.org/activities/mapping-my-world-mapping-my-community/">Mapping My World + Community</a><br /><a href="https://criticalmediaproject.org/activities/identity-collage/">Identity Collage</a></p><p><br /><a href="https://criticalmediaproject.org/applying-the-common-core/">Applying the Common Core - Critical Media Project</a></p><p>Alison & DJ’s childhood TV favorites:<br /><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074074/">Wonder Woman (TV Series 1975–1979) - IMDb</a><br /><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073972/">Charlie's Angels (TV Series 1976–1981) - IMDb</a><br /><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075488/">CHiPs (TV Series 1977–1983) - IMDb</a><br /><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076983/">Battle of the Planets (TV Series 1978–1980) - IMDb</a></p><p>Videos we watched and discussed, as they appear with discussion questions on the CMP site:<br /><a href="https://criticalmediaproject.org/zootopia-press-conference-scene/">Zootopia - Press Conference Scene</a><br /><a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/chimamanda_ngozi_adichie_the_danger_of_a_single_story?language=en">Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie: The danger of a single story | TED Talk</a><br /><a href="https://criticalmediaproject.org/rise-dinner-table/">Rise (dinner table)</a><br /><a href="https://criticalmediaproject.org/im-trans-but-im-not/">I'm Trans, But I'm Not</a><br /><a href="https://criticalmediaproject.org/student_work/ships-at-a-distance/">Ships at a Distance</a></p><p>Also mentioned:<br />educator, author, and media literacy advocate <a href="https://mediaeducationlab.com/about/renee-hobbs">Renee Hobbs</a><br />W.E.B Du Bois’s <a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/first-time-together-and-color-book-displays-web-du-bois-visionary-infographics-180970826/">1890s infographics</a></p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 8 Mar 2024 14:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Alison Trope, DJ Johnson, Colin Maclay, Henry Jenkins)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week we’re joined by USC Faculty colleagues <a href="https://annenberg.usc.edu/faculty/alison-trope">Alison Trope</a>, Clinical Professor of Communication, and <a href="https://cinema.usc.edu/directories/profile.cfm?id=24301">DJ Johnson</a>, Associate Professor of Practice, Cinematic Arts. Together they direct the <a href="https://criticalmediaproject.org/">Critical Media Projec</a>t (CMP), a free media literacy web resource for educators and students (ages 8-21) that enhances young people’s critical thinking and empathy, and builds on their capacities to advocate for change around questions of identity. The website includes around 700 pieces of media and wraparound pedagogical resources that focus on seeing across difference, in order to surface questions that can then be addressed in the open. It can be used independently, and is also <a href="https://criticalmediaproject.org/applying-the-common-core/">aligned with the Common Core</a> for use in schools. Throughout this episode we’ll listen to media examples with Alison & DJ to discuss how CMP works and how it can be used.</p><p>Alison and DJ begin by telling us about their own media backgrounds, and how they reconcile their own positionality in these issues of identity when teaching and bring that conversation into the classroom, so it can become a shared space of engagement for all. After digging into some of the areas of identity currently tackled by CMP, we discuss how students and educators have engaged with it, both by using the resources as well as creating their own media, and through their latest curricular project, the fully-online <a href="https://criticalmakerslab.org/">Critical Makers Lab</a>.</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://annenberg.usc.edu/faculty/alison-trope">Alison Trope</a><br /><a href="https://cinema.usc.edu/directories/profile.cfm?id=24301">DJ Johnson</a><br /><a href="https://criticalmediaproject.org/">Critical Media Project</a><br /><a href="https://criticalmakerslab.org/">Critical Makers Lab</a><br /><a href="https://criticalmediaproject.org/diy-activities/">CMP DIY Activities</a>:<br /><a href="https://criticalmediaproject.org/activities/i-am-but-im-not/">I am, but I'm not...</a><br /><a href="https://criticalmediaproject.org/activities/making-change/">Making Change</a><br /><a href="https://criticalmediaproject.org/activities/mapping-my-world-mapping-my-community/">Mapping My World + Community</a><br /><a href="https://criticalmediaproject.org/activities/identity-collage/">Identity Collage</a></p><p><br /><a href="https://criticalmediaproject.org/applying-the-common-core/">Applying the Common Core - Critical Media Project</a></p><p>Alison & DJ’s childhood TV favorites:<br /><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074074/">Wonder Woman (TV Series 1975–1979) - IMDb</a><br /><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073972/">Charlie's Angels (TV Series 1976–1981) - IMDb</a><br /><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075488/">CHiPs (TV Series 1977–1983) - IMDb</a><br /><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076983/">Battle of the Planets (TV Series 1978–1980) - IMDb</a></p><p>Videos we watched and discussed, as they appear with discussion questions on the CMP site:<br /><a href="https://criticalmediaproject.org/zootopia-press-conference-scene/">Zootopia - Press Conference Scene</a><br /><a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/chimamanda_ngozi_adichie_the_danger_of_a_single_story?language=en">Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie: The danger of a single story | TED Talk</a><br /><a href="https://criticalmediaproject.org/rise-dinner-table/">Rise (dinner table)</a><br /><a href="https://criticalmediaproject.org/im-trans-but-im-not/">I'm Trans, But I'm Not</a><br /><a href="https://criticalmediaproject.org/student_work/ships-at-a-distance/">Ships at a Distance</a></p><p>Also mentioned:<br />educator, author, and media literacy advocate <a href="https://mediaeducationlab.com/about/renee-hobbs">Renee Hobbs</a><br />W.E.B Du Bois’s <a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/first-time-together-and-color-book-displays-web-du-bois-visionary-infographics-180970826/">1890s infographics</a></p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Robeson Taj Frazier is an associate professor of communication and director of IDEA (the Institute for Diversity and Empowerment at Annenberg), as well as the author of <a href="https://www.dukeupress.edu/the-east-is-black"><i>The East is Black: Cold War China in the Black Radical Imagination</i></a> and <a href="https://www.angelcitypress.com/products/kaos"><i>KAOS Theory: The Afrokosmic Ark of Ben Caldwell</i></a>, and producer of <a href="https://itsyourz.com/"><i>IT'S YOURS: A Story About Hip-Hop and the Internet</i></a> and <a href="https://www.pbssocal.org/shows/hip-hop-and-metaverse/episodes/how-hip-hop-artists-are-shaping-vr">Hip-Hop and the Metaverse</a> on PBS. Reflecting on his roots and early influences, he takes us through his journey from New Jersey to China to academia, having produced both books and multimedia along the way.</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://annenberg.usc.edu/faculty/robeson-taj-frazier">Robeson Taj Frazier</a><br /><a href="https://annenberg.usc.edu/research/idea">IDEA: Institute for Diversity & Empowerment @ Annenberg</a></p><p>Books:<br /><a href="https://www.dukeupress.edu/the-east-is-black"><i>The East Is Black: Cold War China in the Black Radical Imagination</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.angelcitypress.com/products/kaos"><i>KAOS Theory: The Afrokosmic Ark of Ben Caldwell</i></a></p><p>Film/TV:<br /><a href="https://itsyourz.com/">IT'S YOURS</a> documentary<br /><a href="https://www.pbs.org/show/hip-hop-and-metaverse/">Hip-Hop and the Metaverse | PBS</a></p><p>Early influences:<br /><a href="https://youtu.be/xa040yTasJE?si=9BELcPIvHPKUHhTk">Mr T. as B.A. Baracus on the A-Team</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G.I._Joe:_A_Real_American_Hero_(1983_TV_series)">GI Joe</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jem_(TV_series)">Jem</a><br /><a href="https://playbill.com/production/the-piano-lesson-walter-kerr-theatre-vault-0000010056">August Wilson’s <i>The Piano Lesson</i> with Charles S. Dutton</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppJQKfqhFfE">Watermelon Man</a></p><p>American Culture in China (1990s):<br /><a href="https://mariahcarey.com/">Mariah Carey</a> / <a href="https://www.yanni.com/">Yanni</a><br /><a href="https://naacp.org/find-resources/history-explained/civil-rights-leaders/web-du-bois">W.E.B. DuBois</a><br /><a href="https://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/paul-robeson-about-the-actor/66/">Paul Robeson</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discman">Discman</a><br /><a href="https://qz.com/1871576/darlie-toothpastes-antiracist-rebranding-stirs-backlash-in-china">Darlie toothpaste</a></p><p><a href="https://producingdopeness.com/mdb">Marguerite de Bourgoing</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL854514FC0EBDCD8E">The Misadventures of AWKWARD Black Girl</a> (Issa Rae)</p><p><a href="https://www.triciarose.com/biography">Tricia Rose</a></p><p><a href="https://arts.mit.edu/people/lupe-fiasco/">Lupe Fiasco</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roblox">Roblox</a></p><p><a href="https://www.pbssocal.org/local-heroes/meet-local-hero-nominee-ben-caldwell">Ben Caldwell</a> / <a href="https://kaosnetworkla.com/">KAOS Network</a>:<br /><a href="https://kaosnetworkla.com/services/">Project Blowed</a>, a workshop space utilized by:<br /><a href="https://thepharcyde.com/">The Pharcyde</a>, <a href="https://www.allmusic.com/artist/freestyle-fellowship-mn0000802928">Freestyle Fellowship</a>, <a href="https://www.dojacat.com/">Doja Cat</a>, <a href="https://www.allmusic.com/artist/kendrick-lamar-mn0002709646">Kendrick Lamar</a><br /><a href="https://annenberg.usc.edu/news/published/leimert-phone-company-project-brings-cultural-hubs-%E2%80%93-and-new-life-old-pay-phones">Leimert Phone Company project</a></p><p><a href="https://www.ll.mit.edu/about/history/mit-radiation-laboratory">MIT Radiation Laboratory history</a> / <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O_NhKHa13A">video</a></p><p><a href="https://about.meta.com/%20meta/">Welcome to Meta</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Life">Second Life</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <br /><a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robeson Taj Frazier is an associate professor of communication and director of IDEA (the Institute for Diversity and Empowerment at Annenberg), as well as the author of <a href="https://www.dukeupress.edu/the-east-is-black"><i>The East is Black: Cold War China in the Black Radical Imagination</i></a> and <a href="https://www.angelcitypress.com/products/kaos"><i>KAOS Theory: The Afrokosmic Ark of Ben Caldwell</i></a>, and producer of <a href="https://itsyourz.com/"><i>IT'S YOURS: A Story About Hip-Hop and the Internet</i></a> and <a href="https://www.pbssocal.org/shows/hip-hop-and-metaverse/episodes/how-hip-hop-artists-are-shaping-vr">Hip-Hop and the Metaverse</a> on PBS. Reflecting on his roots and early influences, he takes us through his journey from New Jersey to China to academia, having produced both books and multimedia along the way.</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://annenberg.usc.edu/faculty/robeson-taj-frazier">Robeson Taj Frazier</a><br /><a href="https://annenberg.usc.edu/research/idea">IDEA: Institute for Diversity & Empowerment @ Annenberg</a></p><p>Books:<br /><a href="https://www.dukeupress.edu/the-east-is-black"><i>The East Is Black: Cold War China in the Black Radical Imagination</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.angelcitypress.com/products/kaos"><i>KAOS Theory: The Afrokosmic Ark of Ben Caldwell</i></a></p><p>Film/TV:<br /><a href="https://itsyourz.com/">IT'S YOURS</a> documentary<br /><a href="https://www.pbs.org/show/hip-hop-and-metaverse/">Hip-Hop and the Metaverse | PBS</a></p><p>Early influences:<br /><a href="https://youtu.be/xa040yTasJE?si=9BELcPIvHPKUHhTk">Mr T. as B.A. Baracus on the A-Team</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G.I._Joe:_A_Real_American_Hero_(1983_TV_series)">GI Joe</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jem_(TV_series)">Jem</a><br /><a href="https://playbill.com/production/the-piano-lesson-walter-kerr-theatre-vault-0000010056">August Wilson’s <i>The Piano Lesson</i> with Charles S. 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DuBois</a><br /><a href="https://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/paul-robeson-about-the-actor/66/">Paul Robeson</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discman">Discman</a><br /><a href="https://qz.com/1871576/darlie-toothpastes-antiracist-rebranding-stirs-backlash-in-china">Darlie toothpaste</a></p><p><a href="https://producingdopeness.com/mdb">Marguerite de Bourgoing</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL854514FC0EBDCD8E">The Misadventures of AWKWARD Black Girl</a> (Issa Rae)</p><p><a href="https://www.triciarose.com/biography">Tricia Rose</a></p><p><a href="https://arts.mit.edu/people/lupe-fiasco/">Lupe Fiasco</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roblox">Roblox</a></p><p><a href="https://www.pbssocal.org/local-heroes/meet-local-hero-nominee-ben-caldwell">Ben Caldwell</a> / <a href="https://kaosnetworkla.com/">KAOS Network</a>:<br /><a href="https://kaosnetworkla.com/services/">Project Blowed</a>, a workshop space utilized by:<br /><a href="https://thepharcyde.com/">The Pharcyde</a>, <a href="https://www.allmusic.com/artist/freestyle-fellowship-mn0000802928">Freestyle Fellowship</a>, <a href="https://www.dojacat.com/">Doja Cat</a>, <a href="https://www.allmusic.com/artist/kendrick-lamar-mn0002709646">Kendrick Lamar</a><br /><a href="https://annenberg.usc.edu/news/published/leimert-phone-company-project-brings-cultural-hubs-%E2%80%93-and-new-life-old-pay-phones">Leimert Phone Company project</a></p><p><a href="https://www.ll.mit.edu/about/history/mit-radiation-laboratory">MIT Radiation Laboratory history</a> / <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O_NhKHa13A">video</a></p><p><a href="https://about.meta.com/%20meta/">Welcome to Meta</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Life">Second Life</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <br /><a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>As a former volunteer and later employee of <a href="https://fandomforward.org/">Fandom Forward</a> (what was then called The Harry Potter Alliance) and a transgender man, Jackson Bird’s feelings about Harry Potter have certainly evolved, especially given the extremely divisive statements JK Rowling has made about the transgender community. He shares how what was once an important part of his identity has faded away and why, as well as how he feels about his memoir four years later and what he’s working on now.</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://www.jacksonbird.cool/">Jackson Bird</a></p><p><a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Sorted/Jackson-Bird/9781982130756"><i>Sorted: Growing Up, Coming Out, and Finding My Place</i> (A Transgender Memoir)</a> (Simon & Schuster)</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/jackisnotabird">Jackson Bird - YouTube</a></p><p><a href="https://www.ridehome.info/show/kottke-ride-home/">Cool Stuff Ride Home</a> podcast</p><p><a href="https://firstdrafttheater.substack.com/">First Draft Theater</a> newsletter</p><p><a href="https://www.nyneofuturists.org/tiw">The Infinite Wrench — The New York Neo-Futurists</a></p><p>Henry’s writing about the Harry Potter Alliance:<br /><a href="https://journal.transformativeworks.org/index.php/twc/article/view/305/259">"Cultural acupuncture": Fan activism and the Harry Potter Alliance</a></p><p><a href="https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Wizard_rock">Wizard Rock</a></p><p><a href="https://fandomforward.org/">Fandom Forward ></a> (formerly The Harry Potter Alliance)</p><p>Jackson Bird: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/21/opinion/jk-rowling-twitter-trans.html?searchResultPosition=1">‘Harry Potter’ Helped Me Come Out as Trans, But J.K. Rowling Disappointed Me</a> (<i>NY Times Opinion</i>)</p><p><a href="https://www.thefp.com/witchtrials">The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling</a> podcast</p><p><a href="https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/3955074-judy-blume-clarifies-j-k-rowling-remarks-i-wholly-support-the-trans-community/">Judy Blume clarifies J.K. Rowling remarks: ‘I wholly support the trans community’</a> (<i>The Hill</i>)</p><p><a href="https://www.advocate.com/commentary/2015/04/24/op-ed-michfests-founder-chose-shut-down-rather-change-times">Michigan Womyn’s Music Festival</a></p><p><a href="https://apnews.com/article/desantis-florida-lgbtq-education-health-c68a7e5fe5cf22ab8cca324b00644119">Florida Anti-Trans Legislation</a></p><p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/oct/26/rick-riordan-i-feel-very-protective-of-my-fans-the-tower-of-nero-percy-jackson">Rick Riordan on Trans Youth and LGBTQ Characters</a></p><p><a href="https://deadline.com/2023/09/harry-potter-tv-series-max-release-date-cast-1235323284/">Harry Potter TV Series</a></p><p><a href="https://actionnetwork.org/petitions/nohptv">Fan Petition Against “platforming” Rowling</a></p><p><a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/grapevine-podcast">‘Grapevine’: An original podcast from NBC News Studios - a story about fringe religious movements trying to remake the American education system based on their biblical values</a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/velshi-banned-book-club/id1702778436">Velshi Banned Book Club on Apple Podcasts</a></p><p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/childrens-books-site/2012/feb/21/pottermore-quest-for-answers">Pottermore </a></p><p><a href="https://www.uvic.ca/mthf2023/index.php">Moving Trans History Forward Conference</a></p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/18/technology/companies/18amazon.html">Amazon Erases Orwell Books From Kindle Devices - The New York Times</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-101-kevin-driscoll/">Episode 101: BBSs and Early Internet Communities with Author Kevin Driscoll￼</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-69-fan-activism-janae-phillips-shawn-taylor/">Episode  69: The Power of Fan Activism with Janae Phillips and Shawn Taylor</a></p><p><a href="https://nyupress.org/9781479899982/by-any-media-necessary/"><i>By Any Media Necessary: The New Youth Activism</i></a><i> (NYU Press)</i></p><p><a href="https://abcnews.go.com/US/scholastic-criticized-optional-diverse-book-section/story?id=104177943">Scholastic criticized for optional diverse book section - ABC News</a></p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/25/us/scholastic-book-fair-race-gender.html">Scholastic Backtracks on Isolating Works on Race and Gender at Book Fair - The New York Times</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a>, and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> team! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music & Additional Audio:<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o07u0uKkV_g">HBO Harry Potter Series announcement video</a></p><p><a href="https://www.thefp.com/witchtrials">The Witch Trials of JK Rowling podcast</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJL4UGSbeFg">Shania Twain - Man! I Feel Like A Woman</a></p><p><br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former volunteer and later employee of <a href="https://fandomforward.org/">Fandom Forward</a> (what was then called The Harry Potter Alliance) and a transgender man, Jackson Bird’s feelings about Harry Potter have certainly evolved, especially given the extremely divisive statements JK Rowling has made about the transgender community. He shares how what was once an important part of his identity has faded away and why, as well as how he feels about his memoir four years later and what he’s working on now.</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://www.jacksonbird.cool/">Jackson Bird</a></p><p><a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Sorted/Jackson-Bird/9781982130756"><i>Sorted: Growing Up, Coming Out, and Finding My Place</i> (A Transgender Memoir)</a> (Simon & Schuster)</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/jackisnotabird">Jackson Bird - YouTube</a></p><p><a href="https://www.ridehome.info/show/kottke-ride-home/">Cool Stuff Ride Home</a> podcast</p><p><a href="https://firstdrafttheater.substack.com/">First Draft Theater</a> newsletter</p><p><a href="https://www.nyneofuturists.org/tiw">The Infinite Wrench — The New York Neo-Futurists</a></p><p>Henry’s writing about the Harry Potter Alliance:<br /><a href="https://journal.transformativeworks.org/index.php/twc/article/view/305/259">"Cultural acupuncture": Fan activism and the Harry Potter Alliance</a></p><p><a href="https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Wizard_rock">Wizard Rock</a></p><p><a href="https://fandomforward.org/">Fandom Forward ></a> (formerly The Harry Potter Alliance)</p><p>Jackson Bird: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/21/opinion/jk-rowling-twitter-trans.html?searchResultPosition=1">‘Harry Potter’ Helped Me Come Out as Trans, But J.K. Rowling Disappointed Me</a> (<i>NY Times Opinion</i>)</p><p><a href="https://www.thefp.com/witchtrials">The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling</a> podcast</p><p><a href="https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/3955074-judy-blume-clarifies-j-k-rowling-remarks-i-wholly-support-the-trans-community/">Judy Blume clarifies J.K. Rowling remarks: ‘I wholly support the trans community’</a> (<i>The Hill</i>)</p><p><a href="https://www.advocate.com/commentary/2015/04/24/op-ed-michfests-founder-chose-shut-down-rather-change-times">Michigan Womyn’s Music Festival</a></p><p><a href="https://apnews.com/article/desantis-florida-lgbtq-education-health-c68a7e5fe5cf22ab8cca324b00644119">Florida Anti-Trans Legislation</a></p><p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/oct/26/rick-riordan-i-feel-very-protective-of-my-fans-the-tower-of-nero-percy-jackson">Rick Riordan on Trans Youth and LGBTQ Characters</a></p><p><a href="https://deadline.com/2023/09/harry-potter-tv-series-max-release-date-cast-1235323284/">Harry Potter TV Series</a></p><p><a href="https://actionnetwork.org/petitions/nohptv">Fan Petition Against “platforming” Rowling</a></p><p><a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/grapevine-podcast">‘Grapevine’: An original podcast from NBC News Studios - a story about fringe religious movements trying to remake the American education system based on their biblical values</a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/velshi-banned-book-club/id1702778436">Velshi Banned Book Club on Apple Podcasts</a></p><p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/childrens-books-site/2012/feb/21/pottermore-quest-for-answers">Pottermore </a></p><p><a href="https://www.uvic.ca/mthf2023/index.php">Moving Trans History Forward Conference</a></p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/18/technology/companies/18amazon.html">Amazon Erases Orwell Books From Kindle Devices - The New York Times</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-101-kevin-driscoll/">Episode 101: BBSs and Early Internet Communities with Author Kevin Driscoll￼</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-69-fan-activism-janae-phillips-shawn-taylor/">Episode  69: The Power of Fan Activism with Janae Phillips and Shawn Taylor</a></p><p><a href="https://nyupress.org/9781479899982/by-any-media-necessary/"><i>By Any Media Necessary: The New Youth Activism</i></a><i> (NYU Press)</i></p><p><a href="https://abcnews.go.com/US/scholastic-criticized-optional-diverse-book-section/story?id=104177943">Scholastic criticized for optional diverse book section - ABC News</a></p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/25/us/scholastic-book-fair-race-gender.html">Scholastic Backtracks on Isolating Works on Race and Gender at Book Fair - The New York Times</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a>, and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> team! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music & Additional Audio:<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o07u0uKkV_g">HBO Harry Potter Series announcement video</a></p><p><a href="https://www.thefp.com/witchtrials">The Witch Trials of JK Rowling podcast</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJL4UGSbeFg">Shania Twain - Man! I Feel Like A Woman</a></p><p><br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Silent Cinema’s Nasty Women with Maggie Hennefeld</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Our guest today is <a href="https://cla.umn.edu/about/directory/profile/mhennefe">Maggie Hennefeld</a>, McKnight Presidential Fellow and Associate Professor of Cultural Studies and Comparative Literature at the University of Minnesota, Twin Cities, who has co-curated a dvd set of the medium’s early female comedians titled <a href="https://wfpp.columbia.edu/cinemas-first-nasty-women/"><i>Cinema’s First Nasty Women</i></a>. Maggie talks us through the current resurgence in interest in silent cinema and the global landscape of festivals, supporters and restoration projects, as well as her own journey of scholarship in the field that led to her collaborating on this important project. All this interest seems long overdue considering the fantastically experimental and entertaining material, which is raucous, varied and vast, often making radical social commentary that still resonates today. Maggie vividly describes several highlights in this comprehensive collection, and the women who were behind and in front of the camera. In addition to assembling, restoring and annotating the films, the team also engaged over 45 mostly female composers to write and perform both traditional and avant-garde scores for each film, and she talks extensively about that process. We also discuss the erasure of this material from the silent film canon, and women from comedy (among many other fields) in general, and how these films both give us a new understanding of comedy in this era, even as they inform our on-going struggles with sexism and racism today, by showing us images of women that are simultaneously empowering and troubling. All films are contextualized with expert commentary, allowing them to be used in classrooms or otherwise as jumping-off points for deeper conversation. Finally, Maggie shares some thoughts from the book she’s currently working on about the notion of “hysterical laughter” and its supposed danger to women.</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://wfpp.columbia.edu/cinemas-first-nasty-women/">Cinema’s First Nasty Women</a><br /><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/0cwexgqmo52bhhz/NastyWomen_Booklet_Integrated_v1.pdf">DVD Booklet Insert</a></p><p>Maggie Hennefeld’s other publications:<br /><a href="https://read.dukeupress.edu/differences/article/27/3/45/8081/Death-from-Laughter-Female-Hysteria-and-Early"><i>Death from Laughter, Female Hysteria and Early Cinema</i></a><br /><a href="https://cup.columbia.edu/book/specters-of-slapstick-and-silent-film-comediennes/9780231179478"><i>Specters of Slapstick and Silent Film Comediennes</i></a></p><p>Other Curators of the set:<br /><a href="https://carleton.ca/filmstudies/people/laura-horak/">Laura Horak</a> – <a href="https://www.rutgersuniversitypress.org/girls-will-be-boys/9780813574820"><i>Girls Will Be Boys</i></a><br /><a href="https://filmarchiv.hu/articles/view/lecturers/elif-rongen-kaynakci/language_code2:en">Elif Rongen-Kaynakçi</a> – <a href="https://www.eyefilm.nl/en">EYE filmmuseum</a></p><p>Henry Jenkins, <a href="https://cup.columbia.edu/book/what-made-pistachio-nuts/9780231078559"><i>What Made Pistachio Nuts?</i></a>: Early Sound Comedy and the Vaudeville Aesthetic<br /><a href="https://masterworksbroadway.com/artist/charlotte-greenwood/">Charlotte Greenwood</a><br /><a href="https://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/person/22123%7C50696/Fanny-Brice/#overview">Fanny Brice</a><br /><a href="https://www.lamag.com/culturefiles/mexican-spitfire-lupe-velez/">Lupe Vélez</a><br /><a href="http://pre-code.com/famous-pre-code-actresses/winnie-lightner-the-gold-digger-extraordinaire/">Winnie Lightner</a><br /><a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2023/03/ali-wong-unconventional-divorce-justin-hakuta-stayed-best-friends">Ali Wong</a><br /><a href="https://etcanada.com/news/229102/sarah-silverman-sounds-off-on-being-a-woman-in-comedy/">Sarah Silverman</a><br /><a href="https://www.primetimer.com/features/hbo-lost-time-female-comedians-wanda-sykes-tig-notaro-yvonne-orji">Wanda Sykes</a></p><p><a href="https://scrapsfromtheloft.com/movies/comedys-greatest-era-james-agee/">James Agee – “Comedy’s Greatest Era”</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXpfD_2BQEI">Charlie Chaplin in Mable’s Strange Predicament</a></p><p>Silent Film Culture<br /><a href="https://wssxi.library.columbia.edu">Women and the Silent Screen</a><br /><a href="https://www.nitrateville.com">Nitrateville</a><br /><a href="https://silentlondon.co.uk">Silent London</a><br /><a href="https://undercrankproductions.com/edward-everett-horton/">Edward Everett Horton</a><br /><a href="https://domitor.org/research/steve-massa-slapstick-divas-women-silent-comedy-albany-bearmanor-media-2017/">Steve Massa </a>and <a href="https://www.silentfilmmusic.com/">Ben Model </a>–<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OUI8CWrH6Y"> silent comedy Watch Party</a></p><p>Silent Film Festivals<br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pordenone_Silent_Film_Festival">Pordenone Film Festival</a><br /><a href="https://festival.ilcinemaritrovato.it/en/">Bologna Film Festival</a><br /><a href="https://silentfilm.org">San Francisco Silent Film Festival</a><br /><a href="https://filmfreeway.com/FestivalInternacionaldeCineSilente">El Festival Internacional de Cine Silente México </a><br /><a href="https://www.hippodromecinema.co.uk/silent-film-festival/taste-of-silents/">Hippodrome film festival</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2KOQfZ0Zd0">Trump – “Nasty Women”</a></p><p>Film Scholars<br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arigon_Starr">Arigon Starr</a><br /><a href="https://history.indiana.edu/faculty_staff/faculty/black_liza.html">Liza Black</a><br /><a href="https://film.ucsc.edu/faculty/shelley_stamp">Shelley Stamp </a></p><p>Female Filmmakers, Producers, and Comedians<br /><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/06/obituaries/alice-guy-blache-overlooked.html">Alice Guy-Blaché</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YCqkam_MX4">Bertha Regustus</a><br /><a href="https://wfpp.columbia.edu/pioneer/ccp-dorothy-arzner/">Dorothy Arzner</a><br /><a href="https://wfpp.columbia.edu/pioneer/ccp-fay-tincher/">Fay Tincher</a><br /><a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2021/03/ida-lupino-hollywood-renaissance-woman">Ida Lupino</a><br /><a href="https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/looking-for-leontine-my-obsession-with-a-forgotten-screen-queen/">Léontine</a><br /><a href="https://wfpp.columbia.edu/pioneer/ccp-lois-weber/">Lois Weber</a><br /><a href="https://wfpp.columbia.edu/pioneer/ccp-mabel-normand/">Mabel Normand</a><br /><a href="https://forgottenactors.blogspot.com/2016/05/minnie-devereaux.html">Minnie Devereaux</a> – “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0JFLY7ly7I">Fatty and Minnie He-Haw</a>”<br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Duhamel">Sarah Duhamel</a><br /><a href="https://www.vogue.com/article/texas-guinan-20th-century-actress-nasty-woman">Texas Guinan</a></p><p>Silent Film Music<br /><a href="https://danareason.com/">Dana Reason</a> – <a href="https://uproxx.com/hitfix/upcoming-documentary-score-explores-the-minds-of-film-composers/">Score</a><br /><a href="https://dreamlandfaces.com">Dreamland Faces</a><br /><a href="https://www.goncaferidevarol.com/">Gonca Feride Varol</a><br /><a href="https://silentfilm.org/the-musical-mind-of-guenter-buchwald/">Guenter Buchwald</a><br /><a href="https://joseserralde.org/en/pages/bio.html">José María Serralde Ruiz</a><br /><a href="https://www.megmorleymusic.com/">Meg Morley</a><br /><a href="https://www.neilbrand.com">Neil Brand</a><br /><a href="https://silentfilm.org/stephen-horne/">Steven Horne</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terri_Lyne_Carrington">Terri Lyne Carrington</a></p><p><a href="https://www.nitrateville.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=33426">Nasty Women team on Nitrateville Radio</a><br />Our previous <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-30-the-forgotten-women-of-early-filmmaking/">Episode 30: The forgotten women of early filmmaking</a></p><p><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2017/01/tomboy/512258/">History of the Tom Boy</a><br /><a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.5749/j.ctttv3pw">Nancy Walker</a><br />Peg Bracken – <a href="https://books.google.com/books/about/The_I_Hate_to_Housekeep_Book.html?id=CZNSzZkFmekC">The I Hate to Housekeep Book</a> /<a href="https://www.bonappetit.com/story/i-hate-to-cook-book"> I Hate to Cook Book</a></p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/17/movies/daisies-vera-chytilova.html"><i>Daisies</i></a></p><p><a href="https://silentfilm.org/the-unknown/"><i>The Unknown</i></a></p><p><a href="https://silentfilm.org/event/arrest-warrant/"><i>Arrest Warrant</i> – Ukranian silent cinema</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What%27s_Up,_Doc%3F_(1972_film)"><i>What’s Up Doc?</i></a></p><p><a href="https://undercrankproductions.com/">Undercrank Productions</a> (silent film restoration)</p><p>Online screenings from the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLx3uAGILdftAbi5H8169IQBGNUj2WhT0S">Bologna</a> and <a href="http://www.giornatedelcinemamuto.it/anno/2021/en/the-silent-stream/index.html">Pordenone</a> film festivals</p><p><a href="https://allthatsinteresting.com/ziegfeld-follies">Ziegfeld Follies</a><br /><a href="https://www.culvercityhistoricalsociety.org/remembering-the-hal-roach-studios/">Hal Roach Studios</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <br /><a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2023 17:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Maggie Hennefeld, Colin Maclay, Henry Jenkins)</author>
      <link>https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/?p=1316</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our guest today is <a href="https://cla.umn.edu/about/directory/profile/mhennefe">Maggie Hennefeld</a>, McKnight Presidential Fellow and Associate Professor of Cultural Studies and Comparative Literature at the University of Minnesota, Twin Cities, who has co-curated a dvd set of the medium’s early female comedians titled <a href="https://wfpp.columbia.edu/cinemas-first-nasty-women/"><i>Cinema’s First Nasty Women</i></a>. Maggie talks us through the current resurgence in interest in silent cinema and the global landscape of festivals, supporters and restoration projects, as well as her own journey of scholarship in the field that led to her collaborating on this important project. All this interest seems long overdue considering the fantastically experimental and entertaining material, which is raucous, varied and vast, often making radical social commentary that still resonates today. Maggie vividly describes several highlights in this comprehensive collection, and the women who were behind and in front of the camera. In addition to assembling, restoring and annotating the films, the team also engaged over 45 mostly female composers to write and perform both traditional and avant-garde scores for each film, and she talks extensively about that process. We also discuss the erasure of this material from the silent film canon, and women from comedy (among many other fields) in general, and how these films both give us a new understanding of comedy in this era, even as they inform our on-going struggles with sexism and racism today, by showing us images of women that are simultaneously empowering and troubling. All films are contextualized with expert commentary, allowing them to be used in classrooms or otherwise as jumping-off points for deeper conversation. Finally, Maggie shares some thoughts from the book she’s currently working on about the notion of “hysterical laughter” and its supposed danger to women.</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://wfpp.columbia.edu/cinemas-first-nasty-women/">Cinema’s First Nasty Women</a><br /><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/0cwexgqmo52bhhz/NastyWomen_Booklet_Integrated_v1.pdf">DVD Booklet Insert</a></p><p>Maggie Hennefeld’s other publications:<br /><a href="https://read.dukeupress.edu/differences/article/27/3/45/8081/Death-from-Laughter-Female-Hysteria-and-Early"><i>Death from Laughter, Female Hysteria and Early Cinema</i></a><br /><a href="https://cup.columbia.edu/book/specters-of-slapstick-and-silent-film-comediennes/9780231179478"><i>Specters of Slapstick and Silent Film Comediennes</i></a></p><p>Other Curators of the set:<br /><a href="https://carleton.ca/filmstudies/people/laura-horak/">Laura Horak</a> – <a href="https://www.rutgersuniversitypress.org/girls-will-be-boys/9780813574820"><i>Girls Will Be Boys</i></a><br /><a href="https://filmarchiv.hu/articles/view/lecturers/elif-rongen-kaynakci/language_code2:en">Elif Rongen-Kaynakçi</a> – <a href="https://www.eyefilm.nl/en">EYE filmmuseum</a></p><p>Henry Jenkins, <a href="https://cup.columbia.edu/book/what-made-pistachio-nuts/9780231078559"><i>What Made Pistachio Nuts?</i></a>: Early Sound Comedy and the Vaudeville Aesthetic<br /><a href="https://masterworksbroadway.com/artist/charlotte-greenwood/">Charlotte Greenwood</a><br /><a href="https://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/person/22123%7C50696/Fanny-Brice/#overview">Fanny Brice</a><br /><a href="https://www.lamag.com/culturefiles/mexican-spitfire-lupe-velez/">Lupe Vélez</a><br /><a href="http://pre-code.com/famous-pre-code-actresses/winnie-lightner-the-gold-digger-extraordinaire/">Winnie Lightner</a><br /><a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2023/03/ali-wong-unconventional-divorce-justin-hakuta-stayed-best-friends">Ali Wong</a><br /><a href="https://etcanada.com/news/229102/sarah-silverman-sounds-off-on-being-a-woman-in-comedy/">Sarah Silverman</a><br /><a href="https://www.primetimer.com/features/hbo-lost-time-female-comedians-wanda-sykes-tig-notaro-yvonne-orji">Wanda Sykes</a></p><p><a href="https://scrapsfromtheloft.com/movies/comedys-greatest-era-james-agee/">James Agee – “Comedy’s Greatest Era”</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXpfD_2BQEI">Charlie Chaplin in Mable’s Strange Predicament</a></p><p>Silent Film Culture<br /><a href="https://wssxi.library.columbia.edu">Women and the Silent Screen</a><br /><a href="https://www.nitrateville.com">Nitrateville</a><br /><a href="https://silentlondon.co.uk">Silent London</a><br /><a href="https://undercrankproductions.com/edward-everett-horton/">Edward Everett Horton</a><br /><a href="https://domitor.org/research/steve-massa-slapstick-divas-women-silent-comedy-albany-bearmanor-media-2017/">Steve Massa </a>and <a href="https://www.silentfilmmusic.com/">Ben Model </a>–<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OUI8CWrH6Y"> silent comedy Watch Party</a></p><p>Silent Film Festivals<br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pordenone_Silent_Film_Festival">Pordenone Film Festival</a><br /><a href="https://festival.ilcinemaritrovato.it/en/">Bologna Film Festival</a><br /><a href="https://silentfilm.org">San Francisco Silent Film Festival</a><br /><a href="https://filmfreeway.com/FestivalInternacionaldeCineSilente">El Festival Internacional de Cine Silente México </a><br /><a href="https://www.hippodromecinema.co.uk/silent-film-festival/taste-of-silents/">Hippodrome film festival</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2KOQfZ0Zd0">Trump – “Nasty Women”</a></p><p>Film Scholars<br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arigon_Starr">Arigon Starr</a><br /><a href="https://history.indiana.edu/faculty_staff/faculty/black_liza.html">Liza Black</a><br /><a href="https://film.ucsc.edu/faculty/shelley_stamp">Shelley Stamp </a></p><p>Female Filmmakers, Producers, and Comedians<br /><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/06/obituaries/alice-guy-blache-overlooked.html">Alice Guy-Blaché</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YCqkam_MX4">Bertha Regustus</a><br /><a href="https://wfpp.columbia.edu/pioneer/ccp-dorothy-arzner/">Dorothy Arzner</a><br /><a href="https://wfpp.columbia.edu/pioneer/ccp-fay-tincher/">Fay Tincher</a><br /><a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2021/03/ida-lupino-hollywood-renaissance-woman">Ida Lupino</a><br /><a href="https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/looking-for-leontine-my-obsession-with-a-forgotten-screen-queen/">Léontine</a><br /><a href="https://wfpp.columbia.edu/pioneer/ccp-lois-weber/">Lois Weber</a><br /><a href="https://wfpp.columbia.edu/pioneer/ccp-mabel-normand/">Mabel Normand</a><br /><a href="https://forgottenactors.blogspot.com/2016/05/minnie-devereaux.html">Minnie Devereaux</a> – “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0JFLY7ly7I">Fatty and Minnie He-Haw</a>”<br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Duhamel">Sarah Duhamel</a><br /><a href="https://www.vogue.com/article/texas-guinan-20th-century-actress-nasty-woman">Texas Guinan</a></p><p>Silent Film Music<br /><a href="https://danareason.com/">Dana Reason</a> – <a href="https://uproxx.com/hitfix/upcoming-documentary-score-explores-the-minds-of-film-composers/">Score</a><br /><a href="https://dreamlandfaces.com">Dreamland Faces</a><br /><a href="https://www.goncaferidevarol.com/">Gonca Feride Varol</a><br /><a href="https://silentfilm.org/the-musical-mind-of-guenter-buchwald/">Guenter Buchwald</a><br /><a href="https://joseserralde.org/en/pages/bio.html">José María Serralde Ruiz</a><br /><a href="https://www.megmorleymusic.com/">Meg Morley</a><br /><a href="https://www.neilbrand.com">Neil Brand</a><br /><a href="https://silentfilm.org/stephen-horne/">Steven Horne</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terri_Lyne_Carrington">Terri Lyne Carrington</a></p><p><a href="https://www.nitrateville.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=33426">Nasty Women team on Nitrateville Radio</a><br />Our previous <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-30-the-forgotten-women-of-early-filmmaking/">Episode 30: The forgotten women of early filmmaking</a></p><p><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2017/01/tomboy/512258/">History of the Tom Boy</a><br /><a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.5749/j.ctttv3pw">Nancy Walker</a><br />Peg Bracken – <a href="https://books.google.com/books/about/The_I_Hate_to_Housekeep_Book.html?id=CZNSzZkFmekC">The I Hate to Housekeep Book</a> /<a href="https://www.bonappetit.com/story/i-hate-to-cook-book"> I Hate to Cook Book</a></p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/17/movies/daisies-vera-chytilova.html"><i>Daisies</i></a></p><p><a href="https://silentfilm.org/the-unknown/"><i>The Unknown</i></a></p><p><a href="https://silentfilm.org/event/arrest-warrant/"><i>Arrest Warrant</i> – Ukranian silent cinema</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What%27s_Up,_Doc%3F_(1972_film)"><i>What’s Up Doc?</i></a></p><p><a href="https://undercrankproductions.com/">Undercrank Productions</a> (silent film restoration)</p><p>Online screenings from the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLx3uAGILdftAbi5H8169IQBGNUj2WhT0S">Bologna</a> and <a href="http://www.giornatedelcinemamuto.it/anno/2021/en/the-silent-stream/index.html">Pordenone</a> film festivals</p><p><a href="https://allthatsinteresting.com/ziegfeld-follies">Ziegfeld Follies</a><br /><a href="https://www.culvercityhistoricalsociety.org/remembering-the-hal-roach-studios/">Hal Roach Studios</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <br /><a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Silent Cinema’s Nasty Women with Maggie Hennefeld</itunes:title>
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      <title>Minisode: Deep Dive into Forrest Gump with Rick Carter</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Listen to the original episode <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-109-production-design-rick-carter/">HERE</a>.</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Henry Jenkins, Colin Maclay, Rick Carter)</author>
      <link>https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/</link>
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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2023 13:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Christopher Cayari, Henry Jenkins, Alexandria Arrieta, Colin Maclay)</author>
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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>We’re thrilled to be joined by Academy-Award winning Production Designer Rick Carter, who has four decades of experience working on Hollywood productions, including with his own personal “Mt. Rushmore” of blockbuster directors: Stephen Spielberg, Robert Zemeckis, James Cameron and J.J. Abrams. Carter walks us through how he tackled his latest Oscar-nominated project, <i>The Fablemans</i>, and recounts numerous other experiences on some of the most memorable movies over the past 40 years, as he elaborates on his approach to the role of the Production Designer, and how his understanding of cinema as an art form has evolved over the years.</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2022-08-24/el-segundo-museum-esmoa-rick-carter-time">Rick Carter's exhibit at El Segundo's ESMoA</a></p><p>Some of the projects Rick has worked on:</p><p><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14208870/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1">The Fabelmans (2022)</a><br /><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088478/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2">Amazing Stories (TV Series 1985–1987)</a><br /><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088763/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0">Back to the Future (1985)</a>, <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096874/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_3">Part II (1989)</a>, <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099088/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_6">Part III (1990)</a><br /><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109830/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0">Forrest Gump (1994)</a><br /><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0499549/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2">Avatar (2009)</a><br /><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2488496/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1">Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015)</a><br /><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2527338/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1">Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (2019)</a><br />complete <a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0141437/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1">IMDB credits</a></p><p>Other movies and moviemakers mentioned:<br /><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000229/?ref_=tt_cl_dr_1">Steven Spielberg</a><br /><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000709/?ref_=tt_cl_dr_1">Robert Zemeckis</a><br /><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000116/?ref_=tt_cl_wr_1">James Cameron</a><br /><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0009190/?ref_=tt_cl_dr_1">J.J. 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You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTq9f1WXAH8&list=PLRW80bBvVD3Wdx33EFWgBv-BSLOddOQqf">John Williams - The Fabelmans (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack)</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPNbHmuf6zM">The Wizard of Oz: Complete Soundtrack by Harold Arlen and E.Y. 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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re thrilled to be joined by Academy-Award winning Production Designer Rick Carter, who has four decades of experience working on Hollywood productions, including with his own personal “Mt. Rushmore” of blockbuster directors: Stephen Spielberg, Robert Zemeckis, James Cameron and J.J. Abrams. Carter walks us through how he tackled his latest Oscar-nominated project, <i>The Fablemans</i>, and recounts numerous other experiences on some of the most memorable movies over the past 40 years, as he elaborates on his approach to the role of the Production Designer, and how his understanding of cinema as an art form has evolved over the years.</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2022-08-24/el-segundo-museum-esmoa-rick-carter-time">Rick Carter's exhibit at El Segundo's ESMoA</a></p><p>Some of the projects Rick has worked on:</p><p><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14208870/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1">The Fabelmans (2022)</a><br /><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088478/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2">Amazing Stories (TV Series 1985–1987)</a><br /><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088763/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0">Back to the Future (1985)</a>, <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096874/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_3">Part II (1989)</a>, <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099088/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_6">Part III (1990)</a><br /><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109830/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0">Forrest Gump (1994)</a><br /><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0499549/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2">Avatar (2009)</a><br /><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2488496/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1">Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015)</a><br /><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2527338/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1">Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (2019)</a><br />complete <a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0141437/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1">IMDB credits</a></p><p>Other movies and moviemakers mentioned:<br /><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000229/?ref_=tt_cl_dr_1">Steven Spielberg</a><br /><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000709/?ref_=tt_cl_dr_1">Robert Zemeckis</a><br /><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000116/?ref_=tt_cl_wr_1">James Cameron</a><br /><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0009190/?ref_=tt_cl_dr_1">J.J. 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You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTq9f1WXAH8&list=PLRW80bBvVD3Wdx33EFWgBv-BSLOddOQqf">John Williams - The Fabelmans (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack)</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPNbHmuf6zM">The Wizard of Oz: Complete Soundtrack by Harold Arlen and E.Y. Harburg</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVCYanmEKKE">John Williams ~ Amazing Stories</a></p><p>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <br /><a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>We’re joined by <a href="https://annenberg.usc.edu/communication/communication-phd/doctoral-students/alexandria-arrieta">Alexandria Arrieta</a>, doctoral candidate at USC Annenberg and <a href="https://www.cla.purdue.edu/directory/profiles/christopher-cayari.html">Christopher Cayari</a>, associate professor of music education at Purdue University, about how music creators are using platforms like YouTube and TikTok to not just share performances but actually create content and hone their craft. By providing a distribution outlet for amateur artists, these platforms have spawned not just viral sensations, but also new fandoms, new genres, and new paths to composition, technical mastery, and community. Where use of commercial music on these platforms was initially a concern for the industry, it has now become a metric used by the industry to gauge success. Join us for a deep dive into music on these platforms as we consider, what is the real goal behind this content creation – an specific artistic product, or the surrounding process and engagement? You may find yourself a new playlist!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Articles by Alexandria Arrieta:<br /><a href="https://online.ucpress.edu/jpms/article-abstract/33/4/5/119161/This-audio-has-potential-Platform-Lip-sync-on">‘This audio has potential’: Platform Lip-sync on TikTok</a> (<i>Journal of Popular Music Studies</i>)<br /><a href="https://intellectdiscover.com/content/journals/10.1386/ghhs_00045_1">Splice and the platformization of hip hop production: Navigating the online music platform for royalty-free samples</a> (<i>Journal Global Hip Hop Studies</i>)</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvYNNKSMpaMCJFa7iam5VkKTeH1ebX4ac">Christopher Cayari’s YouTube Documentaries of his research</a></p><p><a href="https://youtu.be/r7qovpFAGrQ">Lil Nas X “Old Town Road”</a> sparked conversations about <a href="https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/how-lil-nas-xs-old-town-road-became-a-lightning-rod-for-race-the-charts-and-country-music/">racial gatekeeping in country music</a>, as well as <a href="https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/laurenstrapagiel/tiktok-lil-nas-x-old-town-road">virality</a></p><p><a href="https://newsroom.tiktok.com/en-gb/tiktok-creator-fund-your-questions-answered">TikTok creators fund</a></p><p>Stacey Ryan open verse challenge <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRVgYnAx/">Please Don't Text Me When You're Drunk</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Cvv5uDOzvM">David Wesley Virtual Choir</a></p><p><a href="https://hls.harvard.edu/faculty/yochai-benkler/">Yochai Benkler</a> - <a href="http://www.benkler.org/IPOrganizationPub.pdf">Intellectual Property</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical.ly#:~:text=ByteDance%20Ltd.,TikTok%20on%20August%202%2C%202018.">Musical.ly</a> (precursor to TikTok)</p><p>Intense labor required to be successful on these platform - <a href="https://time.com/6180377/halsey-tiktok-label/">artists’ complaints about being pushed to create “viral” TikTok content by their labels</a></p><p><a href="https://time.com/6240648/lensa-ai-psychology-behind/">Lensa</a> AI art app, <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/lensa-ai-artist-controversy-ethics-privacy-rcna60242">copyright ethics questions</a></p><p><a href="https://www.lifewire.com/history-of-napster-2438592">History of Napster</a></p><p>Rob Drew - <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Karaoke-Nights-Ethnographic-Rhapsody-Alternatives/dp/0759100470"><i>Karaoke Nights</i></a></p><p>For more on collaborative co-creation, check out <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-107-co-created-media-and-collective-wisdom-with-kat-cizek-and-william-uricchio/">Episode 107: Co-Created Media and Collective Wisdom with Kat Cizek and William Uricchio</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />Ally Arrieta, <a href="https://song.link/fairweatherfriend">Fairweather Friend</a></p><p>Lil Nas X ft. Billy Ray Cyrus, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7qovpFAGrQ">Old Town Road</a></p><p>Stacey Ryan, <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRVgYnAx/">Please Don't Text Me When You're Drunk</a></p><p>David Wesley Virtual Choir, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Cvv5uDOzvM">Nothing But the Blood</a></p><p>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2023 14:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Alexandria Arrieta, Christopher Cayari, Henry Jenkins, Colin Maclay)</author>
      <link>https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/?p=1307</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re joined by <a href="https://annenberg.usc.edu/communication/communication-phd/doctoral-students/alexandria-arrieta">Alexandria Arrieta</a>, doctoral candidate at USC Annenberg and <a href="https://www.cla.purdue.edu/directory/profiles/christopher-cayari.html">Christopher Cayari</a>, associate professor of music education at Purdue University, about how music creators are using platforms like YouTube and TikTok to not just share performances but actually create content and hone their craft. By providing a distribution outlet for amateur artists, these platforms have spawned not just viral sensations, but also new fandoms, new genres, and new paths to composition, technical mastery, and community. Where use of commercial music on these platforms was initially a concern for the industry, it has now become a metric used by the industry to gauge success. Join us for a deep dive into music on these platforms as we consider, what is the real goal behind this content creation – an specific artistic product, or the surrounding process and engagement? You may find yourself a new playlist!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Articles by Alexandria Arrieta:<br /><a href="https://online.ucpress.edu/jpms/article-abstract/33/4/5/119161/This-audio-has-potential-Platform-Lip-sync-on">‘This audio has potential’: Platform Lip-sync on TikTok</a> (<i>Journal of Popular Music Studies</i>)<br /><a href="https://intellectdiscover.com/content/journals/10.1386/ghhs_00045_1">Splice and the platformization of hip hop production: Navigating the online music platform for royalty-free samples</a> (<i>Journal Global Hip Hop Studies</i>)</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvYNNKSMpaMCJFa7iam5VkKTeH1ebX4ac">Christopher Cayari’s YouTube Documentaries of his research</a></p><p><a href="https://youtu.be/r7qovpFAGrQ">Lil Nas X “Old Town Road”</a> sparked conversations about <a href="https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/how-lil-nas-xs-old-town-road-became-a-lightning-rod-for-race-the-charts-and-country-music/">racial gatekeeping in country music</a>, as well as <a href="https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/laurenstrapagiel/tiktok-lil-nas-x-old-town-road">virality</a></p><p><a href="https://newsroom.tiktok.com/en-gb/tiktok-creator-fund-your-questions-answered">TikTok creators fund</a></p><p>Stacey Ryan open verse challenge <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRVgYnAx/">Please Don't Text Me When You're Drunk</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Cvv5uDOzvM">David Wesley Virtual Choir</a></p><p><a href="https://hls.harvard.edu/faculty/yochai-benkler/">Yochai Benkler</a> - <a href="http://www.benkler.org/IPOrganizationPub.pdf">Intellectual Property</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical.ly#:~:text=ByteDance%20Ltd.,TikTok%20on%20August%202%2C%202018.">Musical.ly</a> (precursor to TikTok)</p><p>Intense labor required to be successful on these platform - <a href="https://time.com/6180377/halsey-tiktok-label/">artists’ complaints about being pushed to create “viral” TikTok content by their labels</a></p><p><a href="https://time.com/6240648/lensa-ai-psychology-behind/">Lensa</a> AI art app, <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/lensa-ai-artist-controversy-ethics-privacy-rcna60242">copyright ethics questions</a></p><p><a href="https://www.lifewire.com/history-of-napster-2438592">History of Napster</a></p><p>Rob Drew - <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Karaoke-Nights-Ethnographic-Rhapsody-Alternatives/dp/0759100470"><i>Karaoke Nights</i></a></p><p>For more on collaborative co-creation, check out <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-107-co-created-media-and-collective-wisdom-with-kat-cizek-and-william-uricchio/">Episode 107: Co-Created Media and Collective Wisdom with Kat Cizek and William Uricchio</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />Ally Arrieta, <a href="https://song.link/fairweatherfriend">Fairweather Friend</a></p><p>Lil Nas X ft. Billy Ray Cyrus, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7qovpFAGrQ">Old Town Road</a></p><p>Stacey Ryan, <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRVgYnAx/">Please Don't Text Me When You're Drunk</a></p><p>David Wesley Virtual Choir, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Cvv5uDOzvM">Nothing But the Blood</a></p><p>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Co-Created Media and Collective Wisdom with Kat Cizek and William Uricchio</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>We begin to talk about the story between MIT’s Open Doc Lab and our guests’ book <a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262543774/collective-wisdom"><i>Collective Wisdom</i></a> with Kat’s experiences working for the National Film Board of Canada and how this provided a precious chance for her to dig into collective wisdom. William Uricchio brings in the <a href="https://cms.mit.edu/">Comparative Media Studies</a> program at MIT and two major characteristics of its cross-media study: remarkable community and applying humanity to work. Then we talk about the diversity of co-creation, and our guests’ definitions of some key terms, including the difference between co-creation and collaboration. Looking at the deep roots of these practices from long before the modern notion of single-authorship, Kat & William’s book lifts up alternatives for dealing with today’s “wicked problems.” It also dispels the concept of a fixed narrative for an open one, making way for participatory culture. Through examples like MIT Co-Creation Studio’s <a href="https://cocreationstudio.mit.edu/worlding/">Worlding</a> initiative, AI, and Art/Science experimentation, we talk about decentralized decision-making, the ownership/authorship of co-creation, and re-think existing models of co-creation between arts and science. Finally, our guests are careful not to present co-creation as a panacea, and that accompanying strategies are necessary to make it productive.</p><p><a href="https://arts.mit.edu/people/katerina-cizek/">Katerina Cizek</a> is an Emmy-winning documentary director working across many media platforms: digital media, broadcasting (radio and television), print, and live presentations/installations. Her work has documented the Digital Revolution and has itself become part of the movement. As a filmmaker-in-residence, she has helped redefine the National Film Board of Canada as one of the world’s leading digital content hubs for a community-based and globally recognized documentary.</p><p><a href="https://cmsw.mit.edu/profile/william-uricchio/">William Uricchio</a> revisits the histories of old media when they were new; explores interactive and participatory documentary; writes about the past and future of television; thinks about algorithms and archives; and researches narrative in immersive and interactive settings. He is Professor of Comparative Media Studies, founder and Principal Investigator of the <a href="https://opendoclab.mit.edu/">MIT Open Documentary Lab</a>, and Principal Investigator of the <a href="https://cocreationstudio.mit.edu/">Co-Creation Studio</a>. He was also Professor of Comparative Media History at Utrecht University in the Netherlands and has held visiting professorships at the Freie Universität Berlin, Stockholm University, the Georg-August-Universität Göttingen (Lichtenberg-Kolleg), China University of Science and Technology, and in Denmark where he was DREAM professor. He has received Guggenheim, Humboldt, and Fulbright fellowships, the Berlin Prize, and the Mercator Prize. His publications include <i>Reframing Culture; We Europeans? Media, Representations, Identities</i>; <i>Die Anfänge des deutschen Fernsehens</i>; <i>Media Cultures</i>; <i>Many More Lives of the Batman</i>; <a href="https://wip.mitpress.mit.edu/collectivewisdom"><i>Collective Wisdom: Co-Creating Media Within Communities, across Disciplines and with Algorithms</i></a>, and hundreds of essays and book chapters, including a visual "white paper" on the documentary impulse (<a href="https://momentsofinnovation.mit.edu/">momentsofinnovation.mit.edu</a>). He is currently leading a two-year research initiative on augmentation and public spaces with partners in Montreal and Amsterdam.</p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262543774/collective-wisdom"><i>Collective Wisdom</i></a></p><p><a href="http://universewithin.nfb.ca/desktop.html#index">National Film Board of Canada - Highrise</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_C._Stoney">George Stoney</a></p><p>Colin mentioned “Bear 42,” but meant <i>Bear 71</i> (and apologizes for failing memory). Here’s a <a href="http://archive.pov.org/blog/news/2013/05/the-making-of-bear-71/">short article</a> on that film and the <a href="https://bear71vr.nfb.ca/">newer VR version</a> of the original screen-based film.</p><p><a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/337872385_%27Art_Happens_not_in_Isolation_But_in_Community%27_The_Collective_Literacies_of_Media_Fandom">Henry on Archive of Our Own</a></p><p><a href="https://www.gwern.net/docs/fiction/2015-mirante-thesubcreationtheoryofjrrtolkien.html">J.R.R. Tolkien on Subcreation</a></p><p><a href="https://cocreationstudio.mit.edu/worlding-people/">Waves of Buffalo</a> and other MIT Co-Creation Studio Worlding projects</p><p><a href="https://www.iseechange.org/">ISeeChange</a> collective climate change study</p><p><a href="https://www.stephaniedinkins.com/">Stephanie Dinkins</a>, AI artist</p><p><a href="https://www.ginaczarnecki.com/heirloom">Gina Czarnicki Artwork - Heirloom</a></p><p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/12/toronto-canada-quayside-urban-centre">Google Smart City Experiment in Toronto</a></p><p><a href="https://collider.com/goncharov-fake-martin-scorsese-film/">Goncharov: The Fake Martin Scorsese Film the Internet Brought to Life</a></p><p>Check out our previous episode with <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-74-horror-social-change-and-experimentation-with-michael-monello-and-qiana-whitted/">Mike Monello</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 6 Dec 2022 14:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Kat Cizek, William Uricchio, Colin Maclay, Henry Jenkins)</author>
      <link>https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/?p=1302</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We begin to talk about the story between MIT’s Open Doc Lab and our guests’ book <a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262543774/collective-wisdom"><i>Collective Wisdom</i></a> with Kat’s experiences working for the National Film Board of Canada and how this provided a precious chance for her to dig into collective wisdom. William Uricchio brings in the <a href="https://cms.mit.edu/">Comparative Media Studies</a> program at MIT and two major characteristics of its cross-media study: remarkable community and applying humanity to work. Then we talk about the diversity of co-creation, and our guests’ definitions of some key terms, including the difference between co-creation and collaboration. Looking at the deep roots of these practices from long before the modern notion of single-authorship, Kat & William’s book lifts up alternatives for dealing with today’s “wicked problems.” It also dispels the concept of a fixed narrative for an open one, making way for participatory culture. Through examples like MIT Co-Creation Studio’s <a href="https://cocreationstudio.mit.edu/worlding/">Worlding</a> initiative, AI, and Art/Science experimentation, we talk about decentralized decision-making, the ownership/authorship of co-creation, and re-think existing models of co-creation between arts and science. Finally, our guests are careful not to present co-creation as a panacea, and that accompanying strategies are necessary to make it productive.</p><p><a href="https://arts.mit.edu/people/katerina-cizek/">Katerina Cizek</a> is an Emmy-winning documentary director working across many media platforms: digital media, broadcasting (radio and television), print, and live presentations/installations. Her work has documented the Digital Revolution and has itself become part of the movement. As a filmmaker-in-residence, she has helped redefine the National Film Board of Canada as one of the world’s leading digital content hubs for a community-based and globally recognized documentary.</p><p><a href="https://cmsw.mit.edu/profile/william-uricchio/">William Uricchio</a> revisits the histories of old media when they were new; explores interactive and participatory documentary; writes about the past and future of television; thinks about algorithms and archives; and researches narrative in immersive and interactive settings. He is Professor of Comparative Media Studies, founder and Principal Investigator of the <a href="https://opendoclab.mit.edu/">MIT Open Documentary Lab</a>, and Principal Investigator of the <a href="https://cocreationstudio.mit.edu/">Co-Creation Studio</a>. He was also Professor of Comparative Media History at Utrecht University in the Netherlands and has held visiting professorships at the Freie Universität Berlin, Stockholm University, the Georg-August-Universität Göttingen (Lichtenberg-Kolleg), China University of Science and Technology, and in Denmark where he was DREAM professor. He has received Guggenheim, Humboldt, and Fulbright fellowships, the Berlin Prize, and the Mercator Prize. His publications include <i>Reframing Culture; We Europeans? Media, Representations, Identities</i>; <i>Die Anfänge des deutschen Fernsehens</i>; <i>Media Cultures</i>; <i>Many More Lives of the Batman</i>; <a href="https://wip.mitpress.mit.edu/collectivewisdom"><i>Collective Wisdom: Co-Creating Media Within Communities, across Disciplines and with Algorithms</i></a>, and hundreds of essays and book chapters, including a visual "white paper" on the documentary impulse (<a href="https://momentsofinnovation.mit.edu/">momentsofinnovation.mit.edu</a>). 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Tolkien on Subcreation</a></p><p><a href="https://cocreationstudio.mit.edu/worlding-people/">Waves of Buffalo</a> and other MIT Co-Creation Studio Worlding projects</p><p><a href="https://www.iseechange.org/">ISeeChange</a> collective climate change study</p><p><a href="https://www.stephaniedinkins.com/">Stephanie Dinkins</a>, AI artist</p><p><a href="https://www.ginaczarnecki.com/heirloom">Gina Czarnicki Artwork - Heirloom</a></p><p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/12/toronto-canada-quayside-urban-centre">Google Smart City Experiment in Toronto</a></p><p><a href="https://collider.com/goncharov-fake-martin-scorsese-film/">Goncharov: The Fake Martin Scorsese Film the Internet Brought to Life</a></p><p>Check out our previous episode with <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-74-horror-social-change-and-experimentation-with-michael-monello-and-qiana-whitted/">Mike Monello</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>We start by digging into each of our guests’ definitions of “meme” (in contrast to Richard Dawkins), zeroing in on the agency of the meming process, how it connects with politics, and the need to be responsive to the way popular culture and the participating communities are using and defining these terms. Whitney offers “trolling” as an example to show how terms can be conflated and the consequences that result. Our guests talk about their recent research focuses: Sulafa has been looking at multilingual memes in the global south for an upcoming book, and Whitney’s early work on subcultures has led her to study mainstream political discourse. This leads to a rich discussion about current political discourse over new media platforms in the US and across the globe. Finally, Whitney and Sulafa each offer their strategies for media literacy in this interconnected media ecosystem.</p><p> </p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://news.syr.edu/faculty-experts/whitney-phillips/">Whitney Phillips</a><br /><a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262539913/you-are-here/"><i>You Are Here: A Field Guide for Navigating Polarized Speech, Conspiracy Theories, and Our Polluted Media Landscape</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.wiley.com/en-us/The+Ambivalent+Internet:+Mischief,+Oddity,+and+Antagonism+Online-p-9781509501274"><i>The Ambivalent Internet: Mischief, Oddity, and Antagonism Online</i></a><br /><a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262529877/this-is-why-we-cant-have-nice-things/"><i>This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things: Mapping the Relationship between Online Trolling and Mainstream Culture</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.sulafazidani.com/">Sulafa Zidani</a><br />chapter in: <a href="https://nyupress.org/9781479869503/popular-culture-and-the-civic-imagination/"><i>Popular Culture and the Civic Imagination: A Casebook</i></a><br /><a href="https://cmsw.mit.edu/how-to-conduct-internet-meme-research/">How to Conduct Internet Meme Research</a><br /><i>Global Meme Elites: How Meme Creators Navigate Transnational Politics on the Multilingual Internet</i> (forthcoming)<br /><a href="https://www.sulafazidani.com/gmp">Global Meme Project</a></p><p><a href="https://global.oup.com/academic/product/the-selfish-gene-9780198788607?cc=us&lang=en&"><i>The Selfish Gene</i> by Richard Dawkins</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROFLCon">ROFLCon</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We start by digging into each of our guests’ definitions of “meme” (in contrast to Richard Dawkins), zeroing in on the agency of the meming process, how it connects with politics, and the need to be responsive to the way popular culture and the participating communities are using and defining these terms. Whitney offers “trolling” as an example to show how terms can be conflated and the consequences that result. Our guests talk about their recent research focuses: Sulafa has been looking at multilingual memes in the global south for an upcoming book, and Whitney’s early work on subcultures has led her to study mainstream political discourse. This leads to a rich discussion about current political discourse over new media platforms in the US and across the globe. Finally, Whitney and Sulafa each offer their strategies for media literacy in this interconnected media ecosystem.</p><p> </p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://news.syr.edu/faculty-experts/whitney-phillips/">Whitney Phillips</a><br /><a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262539913/you-are-here/"><i>You Are Here: A Field Guide for Navigating Polarized Speech, Conspiracy Theories, and Our Polluted Media Landscape</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.wiley.com/en-us/The+Ambivalent+Internet:+Mischief,+Oddity,+and+Antagonism+Online-p-9781509501274"><i>The Ambivalent Internet: Mischief, Oddity, and Antagonism Online</i></a><br /><a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262529877/this-is-why-we-cant-have-nice-things/"><i>This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things: Mapping the Relationship between Online Trolling and Mainstream Culture</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.sulafazidani.com/">Sulafa Zidani</a><br />chapter in: <a href="https://nyupress.org/9781479869503/popular-culture-and-the-civic-imagination/"><i>Popular Culture and the Civic Imagination: A Casebook</i></a><br /><a href="https://cmsw.mit.edu/how-to-conduct-internet-meme-research/">How to Conduct Internet Meme Research</a><br /><i>Global Meme Elites: How Meme Creators Navigate Transnational Politics on the Multilingual Internet</i> (forthcoming)<br /><a href="https://www.sulafazidani.com/gmp">Global Meme Project</a></p><p><a href="https://global.oup.com/academic/product/the-selfish-gene-9780198788607?cc=us&lang=en&"><i>The Selfish Gene</i> by Richard Dawkins</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROFLCon">ROFLCon</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Kevin discusses possible futures of the internet and online communities. Be sure to check out the original episode at <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-101-kevin-driscoll/">https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-101-kevin-driscoll/</a></p>
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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week, we have Paul Mihailidis, Sangita Shresthova and Megan Fromm talking about their insights, stories, and theories in their book <a href="https://www.routledge.com/Transformative-Media-Pedagogies/Mihailidis-Shresthova-Fromm/p/book/9780367467982"><i>Transformative Media Pedagogies</i></a>. We start with the three authors’ inspirations for their book, and then our guests share their definition of transformation, before discussing more detailed contexts for transformative media pedagogies and their mutual and crucial experiences at the <a href="http://www.salzburg.umd.edu/">Salzburg Academy</a> which inspired them to write the book. Last but not least, we specifically talked about three sections in the book: care, imagination, and agency, and their importance for transformative media pedagogies, commenting on how to build those transformative experiences into teachers’ specific teaching contexts.</p><p><a href="https://emerson.edu/faculty-staff-directory/paul-mihailidis">Paul Mihailidis</a>'s research explores the nexus of media literacies, community activism and engagement in civic life. He is the Founding Graduate Program Director of the newly launched <i>MA in Civic Media: Art and Practice</i>, a 12-month applied masters program that pairs students with organizational partners to solve problems at scale, and Faculty Chair and Director of the <a href="http://www.salzburg.umd.edu/">Salzburg Academy on Media & Global Change</a>, a program that annually gathers scholars and students from around the world to investigate media and global citizenship. His most recent books, <i>Civic Media Literacies</i> (Routledge), <i>Civic Media: Technology, Design, Practice</i> (w/ Eric Gordon, MIT Press) and <i>Media Literacy and the Emerging Citizen: Youth, Engagement and Participation in Digital Culture</i> (Peter Lang) explore the ways in which citizens use media to meaningful participate in civic life in the digital age.  </p><p><a href="https://www.sangitashresthova.com/">Sangita Shresthova </a>is a writer, thinker, speaker, researcher, and doer.  She is an expert in online learning, media literacies, popular culture, cross-cultural performance, digital media, and civic engagement. </p><p>Megan Fromm is an affiliated faculty member in Emerson College and got her PhD in the University of Maryland. </p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://www.routledge.com/Transformative-Media-Pedagogies/Mihailidis-Shresthova-Fromm/p/book/9780367467982"><i>Transformative Media Pedagogies</i></a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Reinhardt">Max Reinhardt</a></p><p><a href="https://www.salzburgglobal.org/fileadmin/user_upload/Documents/General_SGS_Documents/1947_MeadArticle.pdf">Margaret Mead</a> on Original Salzburg Academy on American Civilization</p><p><a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0002764217701217?casa_token=qrFvzQ1auN8AAAAA%3AcISoOb0lXT5sZhZsaJuhAXVmtesiobkYmom7xMmonL0ypyGyNEOIj4_igQudG7FwBtn6aKqrIn2_4w">Spreadable Spectacle in Digital Culture: Civic Expression, Fake News, and the Role of Media Literacies in “Post-Fact” Society</a></p><p><a href="http://www.salzburg.umd.edu/">Salzburg Academy on Media & Global Change</a></p><p><a href="https://splc.org">Student Press Law Center</a></p><p><a href="https://envs.ucsc.edu/internships/internship-readings/freire-pedagogy-of-the-oppressed">Paolo Freire: <i>Pedagogy of the Oppressed</i></a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2022 14:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Paul Mihailidis, Megan Fromm, Colin Maclay, Sangita Shresthova, Henry Jenkins)</author>
      <link>https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/?p=1291</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, we have Paul Mihailidis, Sangita Shresthova and Megan Fromm talking about their insights, stories, and theories in their book <a href="https://www.routledge.com/Transformative-Media-Pedagogies/Mihailidis-Shresthova-Fromm/p/book/9780367467982"><i>Transformative Media Pedagogies</i></a>. We start with the three authors’ inspirations for their book, and then our guests share their definition of transformation, before discussing more detailed contexts for transformative media pedagogies and their mutual and crucial experiences at the <a href="http://www.salzburg.umd.edu/">Salzburg Academy</a> which inspired them to write the book. Last but not least, we specifically talked about three sections in the book: care, imagination, and agency, and their importance for transformative media pedagogies, commenting on how to build those transformative experiences into teachers’ specific teaching contexts.</p><p><a href="https://emerson.edu/faculty-staff-directory/paul-mihailidis">Paul Mihailidis</a>'s research explores the nexus of media literacies, community activism and engagement in civic life. He is the Founding Graduate Program Director of the newly launched <i>MA in Civic Media: Art and Practice</i>, a 12-month applied masters program that pairs students with organizational partners to solve problems at scale, and Faculty Chair and Director of the <a href="http://www.salzburg.umd.edu/">Salzburg Academy on Media & Global Change</a>, a program that annually gathers scholars and students from around the world to investigate media and global citizenship. His most recent books, <i>Civic Media Literacies</i> (Routledge), <i>Civic Media: Technology, Design, Practice</i> (w/ Eric Gordon, MIT Press) and <i>Media Literacy and the Emerging Citizen: Youth, Engagement and Participation in Digital Culture</i> (Peter Lang) explore the ways in which citizens use media to meaningful participate in civic life in the digital age.  </p><p><a href="https://www.sangitashresthova.com/">Sangita Shresthova </a>is a writer, thinker, speaker, researcher, and doer.  She is an expert in online learning, media literacies, popular culture, cross-cultural performance, digital media, and civic engagement. </p><p>Megan Fromm is an affiliated faculty member in Emerson College and got her PhD in the University of Maryland. </p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://www.routledge.com/Transformative-Media-Pedagogies/Mihailidis-Shresthova-Fromm/p/book/9780367467982"><i>Transformative Media Pedagogies</i></a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Reinhardt">Max Reinhardt</a></p><p><a href="https://www.salzburgglobal.org/fileadmin/user_upload/Documents/General_SGS_Documents/1947_MeadArticle.pdf">Margaret Mead</a> on Original Salzburg Academy on American Civilization</p><p><a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0002764217701217?casa_token=qrFvzQ1auN8AAAAA%3AcISoOb0lXT5sZhZsaJuhAXVmtesiobkYmom7xMmonL0ypyGyNEOIj4_igQudG7FwBtn6aKqrIn2_4w">Spreadable Spectacle in Digital Culture: Civic Expression, Fake News, and the Role of Media Literacies in “Post-Fact” Society</a></p><p><a href="http://www.salzburg.umd.edu/">Salzburg Academy on Media & Global Change</a></p><p><a href="https://splc.org">Student Press Law Center</a></p><p><a href="https://envs.ucsc.edu/internships/internship-readings/freire-pedagogy-of-the-oppressed">Paolo Freire: <i>Pedagogy of the Oppressed</i></a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 8 Nov 2022 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Kevin Driscoll, Henry Jenkins, Colin Maclay)</author>
      <link>https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/</link>
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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Zeki Müren Hotline with Beyza Boyacıoğlu &amp; Jeff Soyk</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>As one of the most influential musicians in Turkish history and the first modern pop star of Turkey, Zeki Müren gained huge popularity beginning in the 1950s across all different communities in Turkey, in spite of his groundbreaking behaviors like cross-dressing, and can be seen as an LGBTQ+ trailblazer. Even now, Zeki Müren continues to have a profound influence on Turkish society and on the Turkish people. We begin discussing how he became so popular with such a wide audience, then Beyza and Jeff talk about their own experiences with Zeki Müren, and what led them to create the interactive documentary <a href="http://zekimurenhotline.com/"><i>Zeki Müren Hotline</i></a>. After that, we compare the pop culture background while Zeki was performing with the current Turkish pop culture environment, and also discuss how Zeki kept the balance of pushing boundaries and also being conservative, how he used some survival behaviors, and what made him a national hero. Finally, our guests Beyza and Jeff share some stories from the Zeki Müren Hotline. </p><p><a href="https://beyzaboyacioglu.com/pages/about">Beyza Boyacıoğlu</a> is an award-winning documentarian and film editor from Istanbul, currently based in Brooklyn. Her work has been exhibited at MoMA, IDFA, Anthology Film Archives, RIDM, MoMA PS1, Museum of Fine Arts Boston, Venice Biennial, Creative Time Summit, Barbican Centre, UnionDocs, Maysles Cinema, Morelia International Film Festival, !f Istanbul and many others.She created the interactive documentary <a href="http://zekimurenhotline.com/"><i>Zeki Müren Hotline</i></a> at the MIT Open Documentary Lab with <a href="https://jeffsoyk.com/">Jeff So</a>yk.</p><p><a href="https://jeffsoyk.com/about">Jeff Soyk </a>is an award-winning media artist with experience in storytelling, direction, UX design, UI design, front-end development, animation, and film/video. His credits include co-director and UI & UX designer on <a href="http://zekimurenhotline.com/"><i>Zeki Müren Hotline</i></a> (2022 Webby Award Honoree: NetArt, 2017 !f Istanbul exhibit, 2017 RIDM exhibit, 2016 IDFA DocLab nominee), co-creative director and UI & UX designer on PBS Frontline’s <a href="https://href.li/?http://apps.frontline.org/inheritance/">Inheritance</a> (2016 News & Documentary Emmy Award winner, 2016 Peabody-Facebook Award winner), and art director, UI/UX designer and architect on <a href="https://href.li/?http://hollowdocumentary.com">Hollow</a> (2014 News & Documentary Emmy Award nominee, 2013 Peabody Award winner).</p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://zekimurenhotline.com/">Zeki </a><a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/zekimurenhotline/zeki-muren-hotline-an-interactive-web-documentary">Müren</a><a href="https://zekimurenhotline.com/"> Hotline</a><br /><a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/zekimurenhotline/zeki-muren-hotline-an-interactive-web-documentary">Zeki Müren Hotline Kickstarter</a> (w/ background info)</p><p><a href="https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/R/bo9008508.html">The Republic of Love: Cultural Intimacy in Turkish Popular Music</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIFb43O__9A">Turkey as Major Television Exporter</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCju4PALO-8">"Letter of Sorrow"</a></p><p><a href="http://opendoclab.mit.edu/">MIT Open Documentary Lab</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 1 Nov 2022 20:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Beyza Boyacıoğlu, Jeff Soyk, Henry Jenkins, Colin Maclay)</author>
      <link>https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/?p=1285</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As one of the most influential musicians in Turkish history and the first modern pop star of Turkey, Zeki Müren gained huge popularity beginning in the 1950s across all different communities in Turkey, in spite of his groundbreaking behaviors like cross-dressing, and can be seen as an LGBTQ+ trailblazer. Even now, Zeki Müren continues to have a profound influence on Turkish society and on the Turkish people. We begin discussing how he became so popular with such a wide audience, then Beyza and Jeff talk about their own experiences with Zeki Müren, and what led them to create the interactive documentary <a href="http://zekimurenhotline.com/"><i>Zeki Müren Hotline</i></a>. After that, we compare the pop culture background while Zeki was performing with the current Turkish pop culture environment, and also discuss how Zeki kept the balance of pushing boundaries and also being conservative, how he used some survival behaviors, and what made him a national hero. Finally, our guests Beyza and Jeff share some stories from the Zeki Müren Hotline. </p><p><a href="https://beyzaboyacioglu.com/pages/about">Beyza Boyacıoğlu</a> is an award-winning documentarian and film editor from Istanbul, currently based in Brooklyn. Her work has been exhibited at MoMA, IDFA, Anthology Film Archives, RIDM, MoMA PS1, Museum of Fine Arts Boston, Venice Biennial, Creative Time Summit, Barbican Centre, UnionDocs, Maysles Cinema, Morelia International Film Festival, !f Istanbul and many others.She created the interactive documentary <a href="http://zekimurenhotline.com/"><i>Zeki Müren Hotline</i></a> at the MIT Open Documentary Lab with <a href="https://jeffsoyk.com/">Jeff So</a>yk.</p><p><a href="https://jeffsoyk.com/about">Jeff Soyk </a>is an award-winning media artist with experience in storytelling, direction, UX design, UI design, front-end development, animation, and film/video. His credits include co-director and UI & UX designer on <a href="http://zekimurenhotline.com/"><i>Zeki Müren Hotline</i></a> (2022 Webby Award Honoree: NetArt, 2017 !f Istanbul exhibit, 2017 RIDM exhibit, 2016 IDFA DocLab nominee), co-creative director and UI & UX designer on PBS Frontline’s <a href="https://href.li/?http://apps.frontline.org/inheritance/">Inheritance</a> (2016 News & Documentary Emmy Award winner, 2016 Peabody-Facebook Award winner), and art director, UI/UX designer and architect on <a href="https://href.li/?http://hollowdocumentary.com">Hollow</a> (2014 News & Documentary Emmy Award nominee, 2013 Peabody Award winner).</p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://zekimurenhotline.com/">Zeki </a><a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/zekimurenhotline/zeki-muren-hotline-an-interactive-web-documentary">Müren</a><a href="https://zekimurenhotline.com/"> Hotline</a><br /><a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/zekimurenhotline/zeki-muren-hotline-an-interactive-web-documentary">Zeki Müren Hotline Kickstarter</a> (w/ background info)</p><p><a href="https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/R/bo9008508.html">The Republic of Love: Cultural Intimacy in Turkish Popular Music</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIFb43O__9A">Turkey as Major Television Exporter</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCju4PALO-8">"Letter of Sorrow"</a></p><p><a href="http://opendoclab.mit.edu/">MIT Open Documentary Lab</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, <a href="https://communication.northwestern.edu/faculty/lynn-spigel.html">Lynn Spigel</a>, Chair of Screen Cultures in the Department of Radio/TV/Film at Northwestern University, and our hosts discuss her research and new book, <a href="https://www.dukeupress.edu/tv-snapshots"><i>TV Snapshots: An Archive of Everyday Life</i></a>, on snapshot technology and TV history. While working on a research grant for smart houses, Lynn began researching the ways in which everyday people pose with computers and TV sets. From there, she went on a journey of scouring thrift stores, vintage shops, and Ebay for more examples of these home photos of people posing with their televisions. According to her, these photos are not just evidence of conspicuous consumption but rather a myriad of other things: a backdrop of self-presentation, an erotic stage, a portal object, etc. These snapshots combine the snapshot camera and the television, two dominant technologies of middle and working class life during the mid-twentieth century, and expose a new counterhistory or countermemory of television that is more diverse and inclusive than we are used to seeing. To view these photos or upload your own examples, visit Lynn’s website, <a href="https://www.tvalbum.com/">tvalbum.com</a>. Selected photos are also available on this episode’s webpage.</p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett <br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2022 13:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Lynn Spigel, Colin Maclay, Henry Jenkins)</author>
      <link>https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-103-lynn-spigel/</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, <a href="https://communication.northwestern.edu/faculty/lynn-spigel.html">Lynn Spigel</a>, Chair of Screen Cultures in the Department of Radio/TV/Film at Northwestern University, and our hosts discuss her research and new book, <a href="https://www.dukeupress.edu/tv-snapshots"><i>TV Snapshots: An Archive of Everyday Life</i></a>, on snapshot technology and TV history. While working on a research grant for smart houses, Lynn began researching the ways in which everyday people pose with computers and TV sets. From there, she went on a journey of scouring thrift stores, vintage shops, and Ebay for more examples of these home photos of people posing with their televisions. According to her, these photos are not just evidence of conspicuous consumption but rather a myriad of other things: a backdrop of self-presentation, an erotic stage, a portal object, etc. These snapshots combine the snapshot camera and the television, two dominant technologies of middle and working class life during the mid-twentieth century, and expose a new counterhistory or countermemory of television that is more diverse and inclusive than we are used to seeing. To view these photos or upload your own examples, visit Lynn’s website, <a href="https://www.tvalbum.com/">tvalbum.com</a>. Selected photos are also available on this episode’s webpage.</p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett <br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>A lot of parents nowadays are concerned about their children spending too much time on screens. We begin by discussing how screen time is inevitable in this post-pandemic era and that screen time itself might not be the problem. Lynn shares her own parenting experiences to state that parents also can use screen time and technology to build a good children-parent relationship and bond the family together. We then discuss the relationship between screen time and young people’s mental health, pointing out that the problem lies somewhere else instead of timing itself and we should consider other contexts like personal life when it comes to young people’s mental health. Also, regarding issues like “policing” and children’s rights, the key is the balance, and how parents use technology to create a wholesome societal environment are discussed. </p><p>Sonia Livingstone is a professor in the Department of Media and Communication at London School of Economics and Political Science. Much of Sonia’s research focuses on children’s rights in the digital age. Sonia has published 20 books on media audiences, especially on children and young people’s risks and opportunities, media literacy and rights in the digital environment, including <a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/291601764_The_class_Living_and_learning_in_the_digital_age">The Class: Living and Learning in the Digital Age</a>  (New York University Press, with Julian Sefton-Green) (<a href="https://nyupress.org/9781479824243/">view here</a>). Her new book is <a href="https://academic.oup.com/book/32086"><i>Parenting for a Digital Future: How hopes and fears about technology shape children's lives</i></a> (Oxford University Press), with Alicia Blum-Ross (<a href="https://www.lse.ac.uk/media-and-communications/research/research-projects/parenting-for-a-digital-future">view here</a>). </p><p>Lynn Schofield Clark is a media critic and researcher focused on media studies and film studies. She is a prize-winning author of several books and articles on the role social and visual media play in the lives of diverse U.S. adolescents. In her 2017 book co-authored with Regina Marchi, <a href="https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=e4AHeRPLs0oC&oi=fnd&pg=PP1&dq=sonia+livingstone&ots=mBhNsJ-vNy&sig=AEgpy0CHhmhOxkry4OdbVXS8qy4#v=onepage&q=sonia%20livingstone&f=false"><i>Young People and the Future of News</i></a><i>,</i> Clark and Marchi utilize an ethnographic approach to tell the stories of how young people engage with social media and legacy media both as producers and consumers of news. The book received the 2018 Nancy Baym Book Award from the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Internet_Researchers">Association of Internet Researchers</a> and the 2018 James Carey Media Research Award from the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Couch">Carl Couch</a> Center for Social and Internet Research  Clark's book regarding parenting in the digital age is titled <a href="https://academic.oup.com/book/6470"><i>The Parent App: Understanding Families in a Digital Age</i></a> (Oxford University Press, 2012). Clark’s main contributions are in the areas of family media studies, media rich youth <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Participatory_action_research">participatory action research</a> and the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediatization_(media)">mediatization (media)</a> of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_religion">world religions</a>.</p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2020/07/28/parenting-children-in-the-age-of-screens/">Parenting in the Age of Screen</a></p><p><a href="https://academic.oup.com/ct/article-abstract/21/4/323/4085747">Parental mediation theory for the digital age</a></p><p><a href="https://academic.oup.com/book/6470">The parent app: Understanding families in the digital age</a></p><p><a href="https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=e4AHeRPLs0oC&oi=fnd&pg=PP1&dq=sonia+livingstone&ots=mBhNsJ-vNy&sig=AEgpy0CHhmhOxkry4OdbVXS8qy4">Young People and New Media: Childhood and the Changing Media Environment</a></p><p><a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1461444807080335">Gradations in digital inclusion: Children, young people and the digital divide</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Music:</p><p>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  </p><p><a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a></p><p>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0</p><p>Free Download / Stream: </p><p><a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a></p><p>Music promoted by Audio Library </p><p><a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a></p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2022 13:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Sonia Livingstone, Lynn Schofield Clark, Henry Jenkins, Colin Maclay)</author>
      <link>https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-102-parenting-and-media/</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of parents nowadays are concerned about their children spending too much time on screens. We begin by discussing how screen time is inevitable in this post-pandemic era and that screen time itself might not be the problem. Lynn shares her own parenting experiences to state that parents also can use screen time and technology to build a good children-parent relationship and bond the family together. We then discuss the relationship between screen time and young people’s mental health, pointing out that the problem lies somewhere else instead of timing itself and we should consider other contexts like personal life when it comes to young people’s mental health. Also, regarding issues like “policing” and children’s rights, the key is the balance, and how parents use technology to create a wholesome societal environment are discussed. </p><p>Sonia Livingstone is a professor in the Department of Media and Communication at London School of Economics and Political Science. Much of Sonia’s research focuses on children’s rights in the digital age. Sonia has published 20 books on media audiences, especially on children and young people’s risks and opportunities, media literacy and rights in the digital environment, including <a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/291601764_The_class_Living_and_learning_in_the_digital_age">The Class: Living and Learning in the Digital Age</a>  (New York University Press, with Julian Sefton-Green) (<a href="https://nyupress.org/9781479824243/">view here</a>). Her new book is <a href="https://academic.oup.com/book/32086"><i>Parenting for a Digital Future: How hopes and fears about technology shape children's lives</i></a> (Oxford University Press), with Alicia Blum-Ross (<a href="https://www.lse.ac.uk/media-and-communications/research/research-projects/parenting-for-a-digital-future">view here</a>). </p><p>Lynn Schofield Clark is a media critic and researcher focused on media studies and film studies. She is a prize-winning author of several books and articles on the role social and visual media play in the lives of diverse U.S. adolescents. In her 2017 book co-authored with Regina Marchi, <a href="https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=e4AHeRPLs0oC&oi=fnd&pg=PP1&dq=sonia+livingstone&ots=mBhNsJ-vNy&sig=AEgpy0CHhmhOxkry4OdbVXS8qy4#v=onepage&q=sonia%20livingstone&f=false"><i>Young People and the Future of News</i></a><i>,</i> Clark and Marchi utilize an ethnographic approach to tell the stories of how young people engage with social media and legacy media both as producers and consumers of news. The book received the 2018 Nancy Baym Book Award from the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Internet_Researchers">Association of Internet Researchers</a> and the 2018 James Carey Media Research Award from the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Couch">Carl Couch</a> Center for Social and Internet Research  Clark's book regarding parenting in the digital age is titled <a href="https://academic.oup.com/book/6470"><i>The Parent App: Understanding Families in a Digital Age</i></a> (Oxford University Press, 2012). Clark’s main contributions are in the areas of family media studies, media rich youth <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Participatory_action_research">participatory action research</a> and the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediatization_(media)">mediatization (media)</a> of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_religion">world religions</a>.</p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2020/07/28/parenting-children-in-the-age-of-screens/">Parenting in the Age of Screen</a></p><p><a href="https://academic.oup.com/ct/article-abstract/21/4/323/4085747">Parental mediation theory for the digital age</a></p><p><a href="https://academic.oup.com/book/6470">The parent app: Understanding families in the digital age</a></p><p><a href="https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=e4AHeRPLs0oC&oi=fnd&pg=PP1&dq=sonia+livingstone&ots=mBhNsJ-vNy&sig=AEgpy0CHhmhOxkry4OdbVXS8qy4">Young People and New Media: Childhood and the Changing Media Environment</a></p><p><a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1461444807080335">Gradations in digital inclusion: Children, young people and the digital divide</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! 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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://kevindriscoll.info">Kevin Driscoll</a>, author and associate professor of Media Studies at University of Virginia, discusses the history of BBSs, or bulletin board systems, and how they have been overlooked as part of the history of the internet. Developing out of his early experiences with local online communities, Kevin approaches the history of the internet from a grassroots perspective, offering up true stories and examples of how everyday people developed communities online. He outlines how BBSs, from the late 1970s to the 1980s, develop from a space for computer club members to share information to a place where marginalized groups, for example gay men, could gather online. Using BBS lists that were either regional or interest-oriented, Driscoll has been able to uncover the various communities and practices of early online interactions that laid the groundwork for contemporary online social groups and platforms.</p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Kevin Driscoll <a href="https://kevindriscoll.info">Bio</a><br />Book, <a href="https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300248142/modem-world/"><i>The Modem World</i></a></p><p><a href="https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/F/bo3773600.html">Fred Turner’s Research on The Well</a><br /><a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262681216/the-virtual-community/">Howard Rheingold’s Research on The Well</a><br /><a href="https://archive.org/details/byte-magazine-1978-11-rescan/page/n151/mode/1up">Byte Magazine Vol. 3 number 11</a> featuring Christensen and Suess Article on CBBSs<br /><a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262582766/ham-radios-technical-culture/">Kristen Haring’s Work on Postwar Ham Radio Culture</a><br /><a href="https://www.upress.umn.edu/book-division/books/listening-in">Susan Douglas’ Work on Ham Radio Culture</a><br /><a href="https://global.oup.com/academic/product/black-software-9780190863845?cc=us&lang=en&">Charlton McIlwain’s Work on AfroNet</a></p><p>Relevant Background Information: <br /><a href="https://www.wired.com/1997/05/ff-well/">WIRED Article on The Well</a><br /><a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262537759/">Minitel</a><br /><a href="https://qz.com/1309564/the-woman-who-taught-internet-strangers-to-actually-care-for-one-another/">Quartz Article on Stacy Horne and Echo</a><br /><a href="https://news.mit.edu/2018/mit-looking-back-project-athena-distributed-computing-for-students-1111">MIT  Project Athena</a> <br /><a href="https://www.advomatic.com/insights/the-internet-as-third-place">Internet as Third Space</a><br /><a href="https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/books/99/01/03/specials/turkle-second.html">Sherry Turkle</a> <br /><a href="https://www.cc.gatech.edu/fac/Amy.Bruckman/papers/trade/tr-finding-ones-own.pdf%20Q-Anonhttps://gijn.org/2021/05/04/investigating-the-memes-that-turned-one-woman-into-a-qanon-digital-soldier/">Amy Bruckman</a></p><p>Check out our previous episodes with <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-56-howard-rheingold-and-patricia-lange/">Howard Rheingold</a> and <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-89-sherry-turkle/">Sherry Turkle</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett <br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <br /><a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a></p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://kevindriscoll.info">Kevin Driscoll</a>, author and associate professor of Media Studies at University of Virginia, discusses the history of BBSs, or bulletin board systems, and how they have been overlooked as part of the history of the internet. Developing out of his early experiences with local online communities, Kevin approaches the history of the internet from a grassroots perspective, offering up true stories and examples of how everyday people developed communities online. He outlines how BBSs, from the late 1970s to the 1980s, develop from a space for computer club members to share information to a place where marginalized groups, for example gay men, could gather online. Using BBS lists that were either regional or interest-oriented, Driscoll has been able to uncover the various communities and practices of early online interactions that laid the groundwork for contemporary online social groups and platforms.</p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Kevin Driscoll <a href="https://kevindriscoll.info">Bio</a><br />Book, <a href="https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300248142/modem-world/"><i>The Modem World</i></a></p><p><a href="https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/F/bo3773600.html">Fred Turner’s Research on The Well</a><br /><a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262681216/the-virtual-community/">Howard Rheingold’s Research on The Well</a><br /><a href="https://archive.org/details/byte-magazine-1978-11-rescan/page/n151/mode/1up">Byte Magazine Vol. 3 number 11</a> featuring Christensen and Suess Article on CBBSs<br /><a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262582766/ham-radios-technical-culture/">Kristen Haring’s Work on Postwar Ham Radio Culture</a><br /><a href="https://www.upress.umn.edu/book-division/books/listening-in">Susan Douglas’ Work on Ham Radio Culture</a><br /><a href="https://global.oup.com/academic/product/black-software-9780190863845?cc=us&lang=en&">Charlton McIlwain’s Work on AfroNet</a></p><p>Relevant Background Information: <br /><a href="https://www.wired.com/1997/05/ff-well/">WIRED Article on The Well</a><br /><a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262537759/">Minitel</a><br /><a href="https://qz.com/1309564/the-woman-who-taught-internet-strangers-to-actually-care-for-one-another/">Quartz Article on Stacy Horne and Echo</a><br /><a href="https://news.mit.edu/2018/mit-looking-back-project-athena-distributed-computing-for-students-1111">MIT  Project Athena</a> <br /><a href="https://www.advomatic.com/insights/the-internet-as-third-place">Internet as Third Space</a><br /><a href="https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/books/99/01/03/specials/turkle-second.html">Sherry Turkle</a> <br /><a href="https://www.cc.gatech.edu/fac/Amy.Bruckman/papers/trade/tr-finding-ones-own.pdf%20Q-Anonhttps://gijn.org/2021/05/04/investigating-the-memes-that-turned-one-woman-into-a-qanon-digital-soldier/">Amy Bruckman</a></p><p>Check out our previous episodes with <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-56-howard-rheingold-and-patricia-lange/">Howard Rheingold</a> and <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-89-sherry-turkle/">Sherry Turkle</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett <br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <br /><a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a></p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week we are joined by archivist Jacqueline Stewart and historian Tyree Boyd-Pates to discuss the power of museum curation. The role of the museum curator is critical to the way that museums are experienced. We begin by discussing museums as “safe spaces for dangerous ideas” – in other words, how museums can be harbingers of racist and colonialist rhetoric when spaces are improperly curated. Museums can not only present history through materials, but also have the power to represent the present materials. We then discuss how museums can be spaces of change through seeing not only more presentation of anti-colonial materials, but also seeing those materials represented through an anti-colonial gaze. The guests stress the importance of having more African American curators in order to not only tell the history of a people, but of the community as well.</p><p>Jacqueline Stewart is film scholar, archivist, curator and a <a href="https://cms.uchicago.edu/people/jacqueline-stewart">Professor in the Department of Cinema and Media Studies and the College, Director of Arts + Public Life at the University of Chicago</a>. She is also the Chief artistic and programming officer at the <a href="https://www.academymuseum.org/en/">Academy Museum of Motion Pictures</a> in Los Angeles. She also serves as an appointee to the National Film Preservation Board and hosts <a href="https://www.tcm.com/host/8/Jacqueline%20Stewart/"><i>Silent Sunday Nights</i> on Turner Classic Movies</a>.</p><p>Stewart is also the author of <a href="https://www.ucpress.edu/book/9780520233492/migrating-to-the-movies"><i>Migrating to the Movies Cinema and Black Urban Modernity</i></a><i> </i>and <a href="https://cup.columbia.edu/book/william-greaves/9780231199599"><i>William Greaves Filmaking as Mission</i></a><i>, </i>and is an editor of <a href="https://www.ucpress.edu/book/9780520284685/la-rebellion"><i>L.A. Rebellion Creating a New Black Cinema</i></a><i>.</i></p><p>Tyree Boyd-Pates is a historian, speaker,  and museum curator at t<a href="https://theautry.org/">he Autry Museum</a> of the American West as the Associate Curator of Western History. He previously held the position of History Curator and Public Program Manager at the <a href="https://caamuseum.org/">California African American Museum</a>. He began his career as a Professor of Africana Studies at <a href="https://www.csudh.edu/">California State University Dominguez Hills</a>. He has curated shows for notable institutions such as the Smithsonian, the LA Philharmonic, The Getty, and more. </p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/movies/movie-news/academy-museum-motion-pictures-jewish-representation-1283537/">“Where Are the Jews?”</a></p><p><a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/adriennegibbs/2018/09/18/black-films-come-out-of-the-vault-in-tcm-black-critics-monthlong-showcase/?sh=5c3eba3263f3">Black Films at TCM</a></p><p><a href="https://www.broadwayworld.com/los-angeles/article/Academy-Museum-Announces-Details-of-REGENERATION-BLACK-CINEMA-8981971-20220504">Black Cinema at the Academy Museum</a></p><p><a href="https://www.abc10.com/article/entertainment/events/oscars/oscarssowhite-then-and-now/103-9389f7f0-5fa4-4b2c-9117-b5b96b6733b6">“Oscars So White”</a></p><p><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/richard-brody/iris-barry-secret-heroine-cinema-moma">Iris Barry</a></p><p><a href="http://www.filmreference.com/encyclopedia/Criticism-Ideology/Film-History-TRENDS-IN-FILM-HISTORY.html">Lewis Jacob</a></p><p><a href="https://www.indiewire.com/2021/05/oscar-micheaux-pioneering-black-filmmaker-1234636108/">Oscar Micheaux</a></p><p><a href="https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/film-tv/a32346961/who-is-anna-may-wong-hollywood-star/">Anna May Wong</a> ; <a href="https://www.academymuseum.org/en/series/anna-may-wong">Academy Series </a></p><p><a href="https://www.academymuseum.org/en/podcast">Academy Museum Podcast</a></p><p><a href="https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/movies/story/2021-09-07/jacqueline-stewart-film-academy-museum-inclusion">Making  film history more inclusive</a></p><p><a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/disney-s-racist-cartoons-won-t-just-stay-hidden-vault-ncna998216">Racism in Animation</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Autry">Gene Autry</a></p><p><a href="https://www.aam-us.org/2018/03/13/community-curating-a-macro-to-micro-view/">Community Curation</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 9 May 2022 13:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Henry Jenkins, Colin Maclay, Jacqueline Stewart, Tyree Boyd-Pates)</author>
      <link>https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/?p=1254</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week we are joined by archivist Jacqueline Stewart and historian Tyree Boyd-Pates to discuss the power of museum curation. The role of the museum curator is critical to the way that museums are experienced. We begin by discussing museums as “safe spaces for dangerous ideas” – in other words, how museums can be harbingers of racist and colonialist rhetoric when spaces are improperly curated. Museums can not only present history through materials, but also have the power to represent the present materials. We then discuss how museums can be spaces of change through seeing not only more presentation of anti-colonial materials, but also seeing those materials represented through an anti-colonial gaze. The guests stress the importance of having more African American curators in order to not only tell the history of a people, but of the community as well.</p><p>Jacqueline Stewart is film scholar, archivist, curator and a <a href="https://cms.uchicago.edu/people/jacqueline-stewart">Professor in the Department of Cinema and Media Studies and the College, Director of Arts + Public Life at the University of Chicago</a>. She is also the Chief artistic and programming officer at the <a href="https://www.academymuseum.org/en/">Academy Museum of Motion Pictures</a> in Los Angeles. She also serves as an appointee to the National Film Preservation Board and hosts <a href="https://www.tcm.com/host/8/Jacqueline%20Stewart/"><i>Silent Sunday Nights</i> on Turner Classic Movies</a>.</p><p>Stewart is also the author of <a href="https://www.ucpress.edu/book/9780520233492/migrating-to-the-movies"><i>Migrating to the Movies Cinema and Black Urban Modernity</i></a><i> </i>and <a href="https://cup.columbia.edu/book/william-greaves/9780231199599"><i>William Greaves Filmaking as Mission</i></a><i>, </i>and is an editor of <a href="https://www.ucpress.edu/book/9780520284685/la-rebellion"><i>L.A. Rebellion Creating a New Black Cinema</i></a><i>.</i></p><p>Tyree Boyd-Pates is a historian, speaker,  and museum curator at t<a href="https://theautry.org/">he Autry Museum</a> of the American West as the Associate Curator of Western History. He previously held the position of History Curator and Public Program Manager at the <a href="https://caamuseum.org/">California African American Museum</a>. He began his career as a Professor of Africana Studies at <a href="https://www.csudh.edu/">California State University Dominguez Hills</a>. He has curated shows for notable institutions such as the Smithsonian, the LA Philharmonic, The Getty, and more. </p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/movies/movie-news/academy-museum-motion-pictures-jewish-representation-1283537/">“Where Are the Jews?”</a></p><p><a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/adriennegibbs/2018/09/18/black-films-come-out-of-the-vault-in-tcm-black-critics-monthlong-showcase/?sh=5c3eba3263f3">Black Films at TCM</a></p><p><a href="https://www.broadwayworld.com/los-angeles/article/Academy-Museum-Announces-Details-of-REGENERATION-BLACK-CINEMA-8981971-20220504">Black Cinema at the Academy Museum</a></p><p><a href="https://www.abc10.com/article/entertainment/events/oscars/oscarssowhite-then-and-now/103-9389f7f0-5fa4-4b2c-9117-b5b96b6733b6">“Oscars So White”</a></p><p><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/richard-brody/iris-barry-secret-heroine-cinema-moma">Iris Barry</a></p><p><a href="http://www.filmreference.com/encyclopedia/Criticism-Ideology/Film-History-TRENDS-IN-FILM-HISTORY.html">Lewis Jacob</a></p><p><a href="https://www.indiewire.com/2021/05/oscar-micheaux-pioneering-black-filmmaker-1234636108/">Oscar Micheaux</a></p><p><a href="https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/film-tv/a32346961/who-is-anna-may-wong-hollywood-star/">Anna May Wong</a> ; <a href="https://www.academymuseum.org/en/series/anna-may-wong">Academy Series </a></p><p><a href="https://www.academymuseum.org/en/podcast">Academy Museum Podcast</a></p><p><a href="https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/movies/story/2021-09-07/jacqueline-stewart-film-academy-museum-inclusion">Making  film history more inclusive</a></p><p><a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/disney-s-racist-cartoons-won-t-just-stay-hidden-vault-ncna998216">Racism in Animation</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Autry">Gene Autry</a></p><p><a href="https://www.aam-us.org/2018/03/13/community-curating-a-macro-to-micro-view/">Community Curation</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Audience is part of IP, with Diana Williams</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Our guest this week is Diana Williams, who, after 30 years in the entertainment media industry working on premier content like the Star Wars Marvel Cinematic universes, has founded a new company, <a href="https://kineticenergyent.com/">Kinetic Energy Entertainment</a>, focused on partnering with creatives to build new intellectual property (IP) for today’s rapidly changing media landscape. Starting with a clear and holistic definition of IP as being a story world with multiple points of entry for an audience, Diana sees this as a way to honor rich content by developing the ABC’s – Audience, Business, Creative – in tandem with specific media formats, thus building authentic engagement with the audience from the start, rather than marketing to them after a product is developed. We look at how entertainment revenue models have changed with streaming, and how business is struggling to change to fit that reality. Talking through one of her current projects, a PC game called <a href="https://store.steampowered.com/app/1670920/Political_Arena/">Political Arena</a> developed with pundit <a href="https://www.huffpost.com/author/eliot-nelson">Eliot Nelson</a>, we get a closer look at some of the strategies that guide this venture, and also the changing role of entertainment as a source of education. Without having the primary goal to educate, entertainment increasingly, if unwittingly, fills that gap, but does that make it a responsibility? While audience demand may still be dragging the legacy entertainment industry kicking and screaming toward changes in representation, that is the tide, and Diana is betting that building entertainment around audience truth is the way to develop solid and loyal fan relationships that will in turn feed into better content.</p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Diana’s company, <a href="https://kineticenergyent.com/">Kinetic Energy Entertainment</a></p><p>More about the <a href="https://variety.com/2021/tv/awards/peabody-awards-interactive-immersive-new-media-categories-1235007148/">Peabody Interactive Board</a><br />And the inaugural <a href="https://peabodyawards.com/stories/the-peabody-awards-announce-winners-for-digital-and-interactive-storytelling/">Winners for Digital and Interactive Storytelling</a>, which were announced on 3/24/2022</p><p>Some of the press coverage of Political Arena game:</p><p><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/video-games/2021/10/22/political-arena-strategy-simulation/">Washington Post</a><br /><a href="https://www.npr.org/2021/11/04/1051381706/in-this-case-politics-is-a-video-game">NPR</a><br /><a href="https://www.washingtonian.com/2021/10/15/political-arena-video-game-eliot-nelson/">Washingtonian</a><br /><a href="https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-dc-insider-wants-to-turn-politics-into-a-videogame-imagine-an-arch-conservative-in-san-francisco-or-nancy-pelosi-in-mississippi-11634578307">MarketWatch</a><br /><a href="https://www.mic.com/impact/capitol-hill-just-got-its-own-version-of-the-sims">Mic</a><br /><a href="https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/playing-the-game-political-arena-offers-a-taste-of-life-on-capitol-hill-63z38f3t5">The Times UK</a><br /><a href="https://cheddar.com/media/new-video-game-political-arena-lets-users-navigate-through-fully-simulated-political-environments">Cheddar</a></p><p><a href="https://store.steampowered.com/app/1670920/Political_Arena/">Steam page</a>, including the "attack ad" trailer for the game</p><p>Political Arena creator and HuffPost columnist <a href="https://www.huffpost.com/author/eliot-nelson">Eliot Nelson</a> (book, <a href="https://herringbonebooks.indielite.org/book/9781250099259"><i>The Beltway Bible</i></a>)</p><p><a href="http://scienceandentertainmentexchange.org/">Science and Entertainment Exchange</a></p><p><a href="https://screenrant.com/black-panther-2-recasting-chadwick-boseman-fans-legacy/">Controversy over whether to recast T’Challa (Black Panther) in the MCU</a></p><p>For more on games-based learning, see:</p><p><a href="https://gamingandeducationengagementinlearning.com/tag/kurt-squire/">Kurt Squire</a></p><p><a href="https://www.legendsoflearning.com/blog/james-paul-gee-game-based-learning/">James Paul Gee</a></p><p><a href="https://rossier.usc.edu/magazine/fall-winter-2019/game-on/">Zoe Corwin</a></p><p><a href="https://thejournal.com/articles/2013/01/23/game-based-learning-is-playing-for-keeps.aspx">Katie Salen Takinbas</a></p><p>For more about building out story worlds, check out our previous episodes with <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-nonny-de-la-pena-on-ready-player-1-and-the-ethics-and-aesthetics-of-virtual-reality/">Nonny de La Peña</a>, <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/alex-mcdowell-on-world-building-production-design-and-ready-player-one/">Alex McDowell</a>, and <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/ann-pendleton-jullian-on-world-building-architecture-and-wicked-problems/">Ann Pendleton-Julian</a></p><p>We’ve also done several episodes about <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/category/transmedia-storytelling/">Transmedia Storytelling</a></p><p>For more on games-based learning, listen to our episode with <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-13-katie-salen-tekinbas-and-kurt-squire-on-ready-player-one-and-game-based-learning/">Kurt Squire and Katie Salen Tekinbas</a>.</p><p>… and for more discussion of <i>Fast & Furious</i> fandom, check out our <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-70-baby-sitters-club-sue-ding/">previous episode with Sue Ding</a>!</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 2 May 2022 13:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Henry Jenkins, Colin Maclay, Diana Williams)</author>
      <link>https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/?p=1250</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our guest this week is Diana Williams, who, after 30 years in the entertainment media industry working on premier content like the Star Wars Marvel Cinematic universes, has founded a new company, <a href="https://kineticenergyent.com/">Kinetic Energy Entertainment</a>, focused on partnering with creatives to build new intellectual property (IP) for today’s rapidly changing media landscape. Starting with a clear and holistic definition of IP as being a story world with multiple points of entry for an audience, Diana sees this as a way to honor rich content by developing the ABC’s – Audience, Business, Creative – in tandem with specific media formats, thus building authentic engagement with the audience from the start, rather than marketing to them after a product is developed. We look at how entertainment revenue models have changed with streaming, and how business is struggling to change to fit that reality. Talking through one of her current projects, a PC game called <a href="https://store.steampowered.com/app/1670920/Political_Arena/">Political Arena</a> developed with pundit <a href="https://www.huffpost.com/author/eliot-nelson">Eliot Nelson</a>, we get a closer look at some of the strategies that guide this venture, and also the changing role of entertainment as a source of education. Without having the primary goal to educate, entertainment increasingly, if unwittingly, fills that gap, but does that make it a responsibility? While audience demand may still be dragging the legacy entertainment industry kicking and screaming toward changes in representation, that is the tide, and Diana is betting that building entertainment around audience truth is the way to develop solid and loyal fan relationships that will in turn feed into better content.</p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Diana’s company, <a href="https://kineticenergyent.com/">Kinetic Energy Entertainment</a></p><p>More about the <a href="https://variety.com/2021/tv/awards/peabody-awards-interactive-immersive-new-media-categories-1235007148/">Peabody Interactive Board</a><br />And the inaugural <a href="https://peabodyawards.com/stories/the-peabody-awards-announce-winners-for-digital-and-interactive-storytelling/">Winners for Digital and Interactive Storytelling</a>, which were announced on 3/24/2022</p><p>Some of the press coverage of Political Arena game:</p><p><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/video-games/2021/10/22/political-arena-strategy-simulation/">Washington Post</a><br /><a href="https://www.npr.org/2021/11/04/1051381706/in-this-case-politics-is-a-video-game">NPR</a><br /><a href="https://www.washingtonian.com/2021/10/15/political-arena-video-game-eliot-nelson/">Washingtonian</a><br /><a href="https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-dc-insider-wants-to-turn-politics-into-a-videogame-imagine-an-arch-conservative-in-san-francisco-or-nancy-pelosi-in-mississippi-11634578307">MarketWatch</a><br /><a href="https://www.mic.com/impact/capitol-hill-just-got-its-own-version-of-the-sims">Mic</a><br /><a href="https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/playing-the-game-political-arena-offers-a-taste-of-life-on-capitol-hill-63z38f3t5">The Times UK</a><br /><a href="https://cheddar.com/media/new-video-game-political-arena-lets-users-navigate-through-fully-simulated-political-environments">Cheddar</a></p><p><a href="https://store.steampowered.com/app/1670920/Political_Arena/">Steam page</a>, including the "attack ad" trailer for the game</p><p>Political Arena creator and HuffPost columnist <a href="https://www.huffpost.com/author/eliot-nelson">Eliot Nelson</a> (book, <a href="https://herringbonebooks.indielite.org/book/9781250099259"><i>The Beltway Bible</i></a>)</p><p><a href="http://scienceandentertainmentexchange.org/">Science and Entertainment Exchange</a></p><p><a href="https://screenrant.com/black-panther-2-recasting-chadwick-boseman-fans-legacy/">Controversy over whether to recast T’Challa (Black Panther) in the MCU</a></p><p>For more on games-based learning, see:</p><p><a href="https://gamingandeducationengagementinlearning.com/tag/kurt-squire/">Kurt Squire</a></p><p><a href="https://www.legendsoflearning.com/blog/james-paul-gee-game-based-learning/">James Paul Gee</a></p><p><a href="https://rossier.usc.edu/magazine/fall-winter-2019/game-on/">Zoe Corwin</a></p><p><a href="https://thejournal.com/articles/2013/01/23/game-based-learning-is-playing-for-keeps.aspx">Katie Salen Takinbas</a></p><p>For more about building out story worlds, check out our previous episodes with <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-nonny-de-la-pena-on-ready-player-1-and-the-ethics-and-aesthetics-of-virtual-reality/">Nonny de La Peña</a>, <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/alex-mcdowell-on-world-building-production-design-and-ready-player-one/">Alex McDowell</a>, and <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/ann-pendleton-jullian-on-world-building-architecture-and-wicked-problems/">Ann Pendleton-Julian</a></p><p>We’ve also done several episodes about <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/category/transmedia-storytelling/">Transmedia Storytelling</a></p><p>For more on games-based learning, listen to our episode with <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-13-katie-salen-tekinbas-and-kurt-squire-on-ready-player-one-and-game-based-learning/">Kurt Squire and Katie Salen Tekinbas</a>.</p><p>… and for more discussion of <i>Fast & Furious</i> fandom, check out our <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-70-baby-sitters-club-sue-ding/">previous episode with Sue Ding</a>!</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>A closer look at the banning of Maus, with Hillary Chute</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week we are further diving into the recent banning of Art Spiegelman’s Maus by a school board in TN by speaking with comics scholar <a href="https://cssh.northeastern.edu/faculty/hillary-chute/">Hillary Chute</a>, Distinguished Professor of English and Art + Design at Northeastern University and associate editor of <i>MetaMaus</i>. She discusses the history of the original publication of <i>Maus</i> and Spiegelman’s roots in the Underground Comics movement, which led to the elevation of the graphic novel. Then we move on to looking at why the book has been banned by the McMinn County, TN education board and situating those reasons within a larger context, including issues of otherizing Jewish histories and complicated parent/child relationships. She also uses examples from <i>Maus</i> to explain the power of comics as a teaching tool, and a way of processing trauma.</p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Our previous episode on the <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-97-comics-censorship-jeet-heer-jeff-trexler/">broader context of recent comics censorship, with critic Jeet Heer & Jeff Trexler of the CBLDF</a></p><p><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/15195.The_Complete_Maus">Maus</a><br /><a href="https://knopfdoubleday.com/2011/09/21/metamaus-a-look-inside-a-modern-classic-maus-art-spiegelman/">MetaMaus</a><br /><a href="http://media.ocean.edu/files/OCC_VIDEO/upload/Faculty_Resources/dbordelon/215%20Graphic%20Novel/1972_Maus_complete.pdf">Original publication of Maus in 1972 Funny Aminals anthology</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binky_Brown_Meets_the_Holy_Virgin_Mary">Binky Brown Meets the Holy Virgin Mary</a> (Justin Green, <a href="https://www.cbr.com/binky-brown-creator-justin-green-obituary/">who passed away just before we released this episode</a>)</p><p><a href="https://www.lambiek.net/magazines/raw.htm">History of Raw magazine</a>, Art Spiegelman & Françoise Mouly</p><p><a href="https://issuu.com/fantagraphics/docs/zapcom-preview">Zap Comix</a>, Robert Crumb</p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/27/us/maus-banned-holocaust-tennessee.html">McMinn, TN Education board censorship of Maus</a></p><p>Other Holocaust narratives taught in schools (and banned):<br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_and_Fog_(1956_film)">Night and Fog (1956 film)</a><br /><a href="http://burn.coplacdigital.org/umw-2019/">Banning Anne Frank – A Case of Censorship</a></p><p><a href="https://external-preview.redd.it/d_Kv0ZDOaB5gwyMCuBzdEQrN6sDrKILkhOxrM-MXe9s.jpg?auto=webp&s=9f05b2e34b8ccbecaad01b6caa74a240ede0ebbe">Spiegelman and Sendak Collab Strip</a> about kids reading Maus</p><p><br />Spiegelman’s Support for Children Comics:<br /><a href="https://www.toon-books.com">Toon Books Imprint</a><br /><a href="http://www.little-lit.com/index.html">Little Lit anthology </a>series</p><p><a href="https://redgoldsparkspress.com/projects/6926504">Gender Queer</a>, Maia Kobabe</p><p>Hillary’s forthcoming book of essays about <i>Maus</i>, <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/651811/maus-now-by-edited-by-hillary-chute/">Maus Now</a></p><p>Our <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-53-scott-mccloud/">previous episode with comics theorist Scott McCloud</a></p><p>Hillary’s recommendation: <a href="https://www.fantagraphics.com/collections/joe-sacco">Joe Sacco</a></p><p>Our <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-62-mimi-pond-and-carol-tyler/">previous episode with Carol Tyler & Mimi Pond</a> and the emergence of female-centered underground comics</p><p><a href="https://www.npr.org/2004/09/10/3908199/art-spiegelman-in-the-shadow-of-no-towers">In the Shadow of No Towers</a> (Henry’s own writing on No Towers can be found <a href="https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/9783110282023/html">here</a>)</p><p>Reprinting classic comics – <a href="https://sundaypressbooks.com">Sunday Press </a><a href="https://www.fantagraphics.com">Fantagraphics</a></p><p>(NSFW or kids!) <a href="http://www.ep.tc/realist/74/12.html">Wally Wood’s “Disneyland Memorial Orgy”</a></p><p><a href="https://www.lambiek.net/artists/e/eisner.htm">Will Eisner</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classics_Illustrated">Classics Illustrated</a> comics</p><p><a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/comics/article/53340-librarians-at-comic-con-bringing-comics-to-life-at-the-library.html">Librarians and Comics</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2022 18:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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      <link>https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/?p=1246</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week we are further diving into the recent banning of Art Spiegelman’s Maus by a school board in TN by speaking with comics scholar <a href="https://cssh.northeastern.edu/faculty/hillary-chute/">Hillary Chute</a>, Distinguished Professor of English and Art + Design at Northeastern University and associate editor of <i>MetaMaus</i>. She discusses the history of the original publication of <i>Maus</i> and Spiegelman’s roots in the Underground Comics movement, which led to the elevation of the graphic novel. Then we move on to looking at why the book has been banned by the McMinn County, TN education board and situating those reasons within a larger context, including issues of otherizing Jewish histories and complicated parent/child relationships. She also uses examples from <i>Maus</i> to explain the power of comics as a teaching tool, and a way of processing trauma.</p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Our previous episode on the <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-97-comics-censorship-jeet-heer-jeff-trexler/">broader context of recent comics censorship, with critic Jeet Heer & Jeff Trexler of the CBLDF</a></p><p><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/15195.The_Complete_Maus">Maus</a><br /><a href="https://knopfdoubleday.com/2011/09/21/metamaus-a-look-inside-a-modern-classic-maus-art-spiegelman/">MetaMaus</a><br /><a href="http://media.ocean.edu/files/OCC_VIDEO/upload/Faculty_Resources/dbordelon/215%20Graphic%20Novel/1972_Maus_complete.pdf">Original publication of Maus in 1972 Funny Aminals anthology</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binky_Brown_Meets_the_Holy_Virgin_Mary">Binky Brown Meets the Holy Virgin Mary</a> (Justin Green, <a href="https://www.cbr.com/binky-brown-creator-justin-green-obituary/">who passed away just before we released this episode</a>)</p><p><a href="https://www.lambiek.net/magazines/raw.htm">History of Raw magazine</a>, Art Spiegelman & Françoise Mouly</p><p><a href="https://issuu.com/fantagraphics/docs/zapcom-preview">Zap Comix</a>, Robert Crumb</p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/27/us/maus-banned-holocaust-tennessee.html">McMinn, TN Education board censorship of Maus</a></p><p>Other Holocaust narratives taught in schools (and banned):<br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_and_Fog_(1956_film)">Night and Fog (1956 film)</a><br /><a href="http://burn.coplacdigital.org/umw-2019/">Banning Anne Frank – A Case of Censorship</a></p><p><a href="https://external-preview.redd.it/d_Kv0ZDOaB5gwyMCuBzdEQrN6sDrKILkhOxrM-MXe9s.jpg?auto=webp&s=9f05b2e34b8ccbecaad01b6caa74a240ede0ebbe">Spiegelman and Sendak Collab Strip</a> about kids reading Maus</p><p><br />Spiegelman’s Support for Children Comics:<br /><a href="https://www.toon-books.com">Toon Books Imprint</a><br /><a href="http://www.little-lit.com/index.html">Little Lit anthology </a>series</p><p><a href="https://redgoldsparkspress.com/projects/6926504">Gender Queer</a>, Maia Kobabe</p><p>Hillary’s forthcoming book of essays about <i>Maus</i>, <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/651811/maus-now-by-edited-by-hillary-chute/">Maus Now</a></p><p>Our <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-53-scott-mccloud/">previous episode with comics theorist Scott McCloud</a></p><p>Hillary’s recommendation: <a href="https://www.fantagraphics.com/collections/joe-sacco">Joe Sacco</a></p><p>Our <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-62-mimi-pond-and-carol-tyler/">previous episode with Carol Tyler & Mimi Pond</a> and the emergence of female-centered underground comics</p><p><a href="https://www.npr.org/2004/09/10/3908199/art-spiegelman-in-the-shadow-of-no-towers">In the Shadow of No Towers</a> (Henry’s own writing on No Towers can be found <a href="https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/9783110282023/html">here</a>)</p><p>Reprinting classic comics – <a href="https://sundaypressbooks.com">Sunday Press </a><a href="https://www.fantagraphics.com">Fantagraphics</a></p><p>(NSFW or kids!) <a href="http://www.ep.tc/realist/74/12.html">Wally Wood’s “Disneyland Memorial Orgy”</a></p><p><a href="https://www.lambiek.net/artists/e/eisner.htm">Will Eisner</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classics_Illustrated">Classics Illustrated</a> comics</p><p><a href="https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/comics/article/53340-librarians-at-comic-con-bringing-comics-to-life-at-the-library.html">Librarians and Comics</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>A closer look at the banning of Maus, with Hillary Chute</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:summary>Following on our previous episode about the banning of graphic novels in schools, a deep dive into the history of Art Speigelman’s Maus to help us understand both why it is such an important work of literature and why it has struck such a nerve in TN.</itunes:summary>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week Henry and Colin are joined by writer and comics critic Jeet Heer and Jeff Trexler, Interim Director of the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund, to discuss the broader context for the censorship of graphic novels in schools. Jumping off from the recent censorship of Art Spiegelman’s <i>Maus</i> by a TN school board, we review the long history and reasoning of censorship, policing, gatekeeping of comics – from early newspaper strips, to the first magazine books sold to kids in drug stores, the Senate investigation and self-censorship code of the 50s, and on to the Underground comics movement for adults and the independent comics of the 80s. Recently, we’ve seen the same concerns arise anew as equal protection laws have brought things that were once considered private into the public sphere, and the pandemic brought the classroom and its educational use of graphic novels into the home. We point out the changes that have led teachers and librarians to “switch sides” in this argument and become proponents of comics as literature, and talk about the role comics can play in engaging readers of all ages, as well as helping to express the full diversity of American culture. We end with some thoughts about how individuals can respond to the challenges comics are once again coming under and support their role in this dialogue.</p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/HeerJeet">Jeet Heer</a>, columns in <a href="https://www.thenation.com/authors/jeet-heer/"><i>The Nation</i></a>, <a href="https://newrepublic.com/authors/jeet-heer"><i>The New Republic</i></a></p><p>books: <a href="https://www.upress.state.ms.us/Books/A/Arguing-Comics"><i>Arguing Comics</i></a>, <a href="https://www.ubcpress.ca/a-comics-studies-reader"><i>A Comic Studies Reader</i></a>, <a href="https://www.upress.state.ms.us/Books/T/The-Superhero-Reader"><i>The Superhero Reader</i></a>, <a href="https://chbooks.com/Books/I/In-Love-with-Art"><i>In Love with Art</i></a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/jefftrexler">Jeff Trexler</a>, Interim Director, <a href="http://cbldf.org/">Comic Book Legal Defense Fund</a></p><p><a href="https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2022/01/27/why-did-tennessee-school-board-remove-maus-art-spiegelman/9244295002/">McMinn, TN Education board censorship of Maus</a>; <a href="https://jeetheer.substack.com/p/maus-in-tennessee?s=r">Jeet’s writing immediately after</a><br /><a href="https://bookriot.com/leander-removes-books/">Leander, TX school district banning of graphic novel versions of The Handmaid’s Tale & The Lottery</a></p><p>Early newspaper comics: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Katzenjammer_Kids">Katzenjammer Kids</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutt_and_Jeff">Mutt & Jeff</a></p><p>Comics for older youth:<br /><a href="https://www.fantagraphics.com/collections/the-complete-carl-barks-library">Duck Comics</a>, Carl Barks<br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_Does_Not_Pay_(comics)">Crime Does Not Pay</a>, Charles Biro<br /><a href="https://www.eccomics.com/history">EC Horror comics</a>, William Gaines<br />For more about the history of horror comics, see <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-74-horror-social-change-and-experimentation-with-michael-monello-and-qiana-whitted/">Episode 74: Horror, Social Change, and</a><br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-74-horror-social-change-and-experimentation-with-michael-monello-and-qiana-whitted/">Experimentation with Michael Monello and Qiana Whitted</a><br /><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2008/03/31/the-horror">Frederic Wertham and Moral Panic around Horror and Crime Comics</a><br /><a href="https://crisisofinnocence.library.ryerson.ca/items/show/667">Frederick Wertham speech</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comics_Code_Authority">The Comics Code</a></p><p>Underground Comics and the origins of the CBLDF:<br /><a href="http://cbldf.org/about-us/case-files/cbldf-case-files/correa/">Friendly Franks comics shop</a><br /><a href="http://www.deniskitchenpublishing.com/">Dennis Kitchen</a>, comics publisher<br /><a href="https://issuu.com/fantagraphics/docs/zapcom-preview">Zap Comix</a>, Robert Crumb<br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raw_(magazine)">Raw</a>, Art Spiegelman & Françoise Mouly<br />Film, <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094897/">Comic Book Confidential</a></p><p>Independent comics of the 80s aimed at adults:<br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen">Watchmen</a><br /><a href="https://batman.fandom.com/wiki/Batman:_The_Dark_Knight">The Dark Knight</a></p><p>The new wave of graphic novels aimed at youth again:<br /><a href="https://kids.scholastic.com/kid/books/bone/">Bone</a>, Jeff Smith<br /><a href="https://www.toon-books.com/our-mission.html">TOON Books</a>, Françoise Mouly<br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manga_outside_Japan">Manga</a><br /><a href="https://www.scholastic.com/site/books-by-raina.html">Books By Raina Telgemeier</a></p><p>Other critically-acclaimed yet controversial graphic novels:<br /><a href="https://redgoldsparkspress.com/projects/6926504">Gender Queer</a>, Maia Kobabe</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persepolis_(comics)">Persepolis</a>, Marjane Satrapi</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fun_Home">Fun Home</a>, Alison Bechdel</p><p>Early proponent of comics for children <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josette_Frank">Josette Frank</a><br />And today: <a href="https://www.ala.org/rt/gncrt">Graphic Novels and Comics Round Table of the American Library Association</a></p><p>Henry’s book <a href="https://nyupress.org/9781479852741/comics-and-stuff/"><i>Comics and Stuff</i></a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <br /><a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week Henry and Colin are joined by writer and comics critic Jeet Heer and Jeff Trexler, Interim Director of the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund, to discuss the broader context for the censorship of graphic novels in schools. Jumping off from the recent censorship of Art Spiegelman’s <i>Maus</i> by a TN school board, we review the long history and reasoning of censorship, policing, gatekeeping of comics – from early newspaper strips, to the first magazine books sold to kids in drug stores, the Senate investigation and self-censorship code of the 50s, and on to the Underground comics movement for adults and the independent comics of the 80s. Recently, we’ve seen the same concerns arise anew as equal protection laws have brought things that were once considered private into the public sphere, and the pandemic brought the classroom and its educational use of graphic novels into the home. We point out the changes that have led teachers and librarians to “switch sides” in this argument and become proponents of comics as literature, and talk about the role comics can play in engaging readers of all ages, as well as helping to express the full diversity of American culture. We end with some thoughts about how individuals can respond to the challenges comics are once again coming under and support their role in this dialogue.</p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/HeerJeet">Jeet Heer</a>, columns in <a href="https://www.thenation.com/authors/jeet-heer/"><i>The Nation</i></a>, <a href="https://newrepublic.com/authors/jeet-heer"><i>The New Republic</i></a></p><p>books: <a href="https://www.upress.state.ms.us/Books/A/Arguing-Comics"><i>Arguing Comics</i></a>, <a href="https://www.ubcpress.ca/a-comics-studies-reader"><i>A Comic Studies Reader</i></a>, <a href="https://www.upress.state.ms.us/Books/T/The-Superhero-Reader"><i>The Superhero Reader</i></a>, <a href="https://chbooks.com/Books/I/In-Love-with-Art"><i>In Love with Art</i></a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/jefftrexler">Jeff Trexler</a>, Interim Director, <a href="http://cbldf.org/">Comic Book Legal Defense Fund</a></p><p><a href="https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2022/01/27/why-did-tennessee-school-board-remove-maus-art-spiegelman/9244295002/">McMinn, TN Education board censorship of Maus</a>; <a href="https://jeetheer.substack.com/p/maus-in-tennessee?s=r">Jeet’s writing immediately after</a><br /><a href="https://bookriot.com/leander-removes-books/">Leander, TX school district banning of graphic novel versions of The Handmaid’s Tale & The Lottery</a></p><p>Early newspaper comics: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Katzenjammer_Kids">Katzenjammer Kids</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutt_and_Jeff">Mutt & Jeff</a></p><p>Comics for older youth:<br /><a href="https://www.fantagraphics.com/collections/the-complete-carl-barks-library">Duck Comics</a>, Carl Barks<br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_Does_Not_Pay_(comics)">Crime Does Not Pay</a>, Charles Biro<br /><a href="https://www.eccomics.com/history">EC Horror comics</a>, William Gaines<br />For more about the history of horror comics, see <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-74-horror-social-change-and-experimentation-with-michael-monello-and-qiana-whitted/">Episode 74: Horror, Social Change, and</a><br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-74-horror-social-change-and-experimentation-with-michael-monello-and-qiana-whitted/">Experimentation with Michael Monello and Qiana Whitted</a><br /><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2008/03/31/the-horror">Frederic Wertham and Moral Panic around Horror and Crime Comics</a><br /><a href="https://crisisofinnocence.library.ryerson.ca/items/show/667">Frederick Wertham speech</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comics_Code_Authority">The Comics Code</a></p><p>Underground Comics and the origins of the CBLDF:<br /><a href="http://cbldf.org/about-us/case-files/cbldf-case-files/correa/">Friendly Franks comics shop</a><br /><a href="http://www.deniskitchenpublishing.com/">Dennis Kitchen</a>, comics publisher<br /><a href="https://issuu.com/fantagraphics/docs/zapcom-preview">Zap Comix</a>, Robert Crumb<br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raw_(magazine)">Raw</a>, Art Spiegelman & Françoise Mouly<br />Film, <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094897/">Comic Book Confidential</a></p><p>Independent comics of the 80s aimed at adults:<br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen">Watchmen</a><br /><a href="https://batman.fandom.com/wiki/Batman:_The_Dark_Knight">The Dark Knight</a></p><p>The new wave of graphic novels aimed at youth again:<br /><a href="https://kids.scholastic.com/kid/books/bone/">Bone</a>, Jeff Smith<br /><a href="https://www.toon-books.com/our-mission.html">TOON Books</a>, Françoise Mouly<br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manga_outside_Japan">Manga</a><br /><a href="https://www.scholastic.com/site/books-by-raina.html">Books By Raina Telgemeier</a></p><p>Other critically-acclaimed yet controversial graphic novels:<br /><a href="https://redgoldsparkspress.com/projects/6926504">Gender Queer</a>, Maia Kobabe</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persepolis_(comics)">Persepolis</a>, Marjane Satrapi</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fun_Home">Fun Home</a>, Alison Bechdel</p><p>Early proponent of comics for children <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josette_Frank">Josette Frank</a><br />And today: <a href="https://www.ala.org/rt/gncrt">Graphic Novels and Comics Round Table of the American Library Association</a></p><p>Henry’s book <a href="https://nyupress.org/9781479852741/comics-and-stuff/"><i>Comics and Stuff</i></a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <br /><a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode Stephanie Toliver, Assistant Professor of Literacy and and Secondary Humanities at University of Colorado Boulder and lifelong sci-fi nerd chats with Henry and Colin about her experience writing her hybrid PhD dissertation. As part of her PhD, Stephanie got the opportunity to work with the DEEP Center’s Block to Block Program teaching middle-school age black girls how to write science fiction. Her now published <a href="https://www.routledge.com/Recovering-Black-Storytelling-in-Qualitative-Research-Endarkened-Storywork/Toliver/p/book/9780367747336">dissertation</a> combines the stories written by those girls with theory and methodology to outline how Stephanie centers Black girls in her academic research. In this conversation they discuss how Stephanie’s leading style during the workshop was informed by the girls’ own interests and their storytelling instincts rather than the typical teacher-student model. As a group they engaged with afrofuturist stories from Black authors like Octavia Butler, Sherri L. Smith, Tracie Baptiste, and Nnedi Okorafor and used those stories to inform their own work. In detailing her own process, she explores with the hosts how academia should encourage storytelling, especially for scholars of color, rather than enforcing that they write in a more standard voice and tone. As a professor she encourages educators to use young adult literature to bridge the gap between learning and storytelling and more information about that can be found on her blog <a href="http://readingblackfutures.com">readingblackfutures.com</a>. </p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Documentary on the DEEP Center’s Block by Block Program: <a href="https://youtu.be/2vjSk1_htms">Block by Block's Guide to Resilience 21-22</a></p><p><a href="https://www.annenberglab.com/civic-media-fellowship/">USC Annenberg’s Civic Media Fellowship</a></p><p>Henry’s <a href="https://www.civicimaginationproject.org/about">Civic Imagination Project</a></p><p><a href="https://sunypress.edu/Books/O/On-Spiritual-Strivings"><i>On Spiritual Strivings</i></a>, Cynthia Dillard’s Book that inspired Toliver’s teaching methods</p><p>Stephanie’s <a href="https://readingblackfutures.com/blog/">Blog Post Defining Afrofuturism</a><br />Afrofuturism Defined Elsewhere:<br /><a href="https://newsroom.ucla.edu/magazine/afrofuturism">Afrofuturism: From the Past to the Living Present | UCLA</a><br /><a href="https://www.essence.com/entertainment/a-beginners-guide-afrofuturism/">A Beginner's Guide To Afrofuturism: 7 Titles To Watch And Read</a> (<i>Essence</i>)<br /><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/how-afrofuturism-can-help-the-world-mend/">How Afrofuturism Can Help the World Mend | WIRED</a><br /><a href="https://ca.pbslearningmedia.org/resource/afrofuturism-from-books-to-blockbusters-video/its-lit-season-2/">Afrofuturism: From Books to Blockbusters | It's Lit!</a> (PBS)</p><p>Afrofuturist Texts Mentioned in the Episode: <br /><a href="https://www.sherrilsmith.com/orleans">Orleans</a> by Sherri L. Smith <br /><a href="https://www.octaviabutler.com/parableseries">Parable of the Sower</a> by Octavia Butler <br /><a href="https://traceybaptiste.com/the-jumbies-series">The Jumbies</a> by Tracie Baptiste <br /><a href="https://www.akpress.org/octavia-s-brood.html">Octavia’s Brood</a> edited by Adrienne Maree Brown and Walidah Imarisha <br />“Sera” by Nicola Yoon from <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31450752-because-you-love-to-hate-me">Because You Love to Hate Me</a> edited by Amerie </p><p>For more visit Stephanie’s blog here: <a href="https://readingblackfutures.com/black-girl-sffh/">https://readingblackfutures.com/black-girl-sffh/</a>, <a href="https://readingblackfutures.com/black-boy-sffh/">https://readingblackfutures.com/black-boy-sffh/</a>, <a href="https://readingblackfutures.com/black-sffh-anthologies/">https://readingblackfutures.com/black-sffh-anthologies/</a></p><p>Raymond Williams, “<a href="http://artsites.ucsc.edu/faculty/gustafson/FILM%20162.W10/readings/Williams.Ordinary.pdf">Culture is Ordinary</a>”</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <br /><a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2022 13:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Henry Jenkins, Colin Maclay, Stephanie Toliver)</author>
      <link>https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/?p=1238</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode Stephanie Toliver, Assistant Professor of Literacy and and Secondary Humanities at University of Colorado Boulder and lifelong sci-fi nerd chats with Henry and Colin about her experience writing her hybrid PhD dissertation. As part of her PhD, Stephanie got the opportunity to work with the DEEP Center’s Block to Block Program teaching middle-school age black girls how to write science fiction. Her now published <a href="https://www.routledge.com/Recovering-Black-Storytelling-in-Qualitative-Research-Endarkened-Storywork/Toliver/p/book/9780367747336">dissertation</a> combines the stories written by those girls with theory and methodology to outline how Stephanie centers Black girls in her academic research. In this conversation they discuss how Stephanie’s leading style during the workshop was informed by the girls’ own interests and their storytelling instincts rather than the typical teacher-student model. As a group they engaged with afrofuturist stories from Black authors like Octavia Butler, Sherri L. Smith, Tracie Baptiste, and Nnedi Okorafor and used those stories to inform their own work. In detailing her own process, she explores with the hosts how academia should encourage storytelling, especially for scholars of color, rather than enforcing that they write in a more standard voice and tone. As a professor she encourages educators to use young adult literature to bridge the gap between learning and storytelling and more information about that can be found on her blog <a href="http://readingblackfutures.com">readingblackfutures.com</a>. </p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Documentary on the DEEP Center’s Block by Block Program: <a href="https://youtu.be/2vjSk1_htms">Block by Block's Guide to Resilience 21-22</a></p><p><a href="https://www.annenberglab.com/civic-media-fellowship/">USC Annenberg’s Civic Media Fellowship</a></p><p>Henry’s <a href="https://www.civicimaginationproject.org/about">Civic Imagination Project</a></p><p><a href="https://sunypress.edu/Books/O/On-Spiritual-Strivings"><i>On Spiritual Strivings</i></a>, Cynthia Dillard’s Book that inspired Toliver’s teaching methods</p><p>Stephanie’s <a href="https://readingblackfutures.com/blog/">Blog Post Defining Afrofuturism</a><br />Afrofuturism Defined Elsewhere:<br /><a href="https://newsroom.ucla.edu/magazine/afrofuturism">Afrofuturism: From the Past to the Living Present | UCLA</a><br /><a href="https://www.essence.com/entertainment/a-beginners-guide-afrofuturism/">A Beginner's Guide To Afrofuturism: 7 Titles To Watch And Read</a> (<i>Essence</i>)<br /><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/how-afrofuturism-can-help-the-world-mend/">How Afrofuturism Can Help the World Mend | WIRED</a><br /><a href="https://ca.pbslearningmedia.org/resource/afrofuturism-from-books-to-blockbusters-video/its-lit-season-2/">Afrofuturism: From Books to Blockbusters | It's Lit!</a> (PBS)</p><p>Afrofuturist Texts Mentioned in the Episode: <br /><a href="https://www.sherrilsmith.com/orleans">Orleans</a> by Sherri L. Smith <br /><a href="https://www.octaviabutler.com/parableseries">Parable of the Sower</a> by Octavia Butler <br /><a href="https://traceybaptiste.com/the-jumbies-series">The Jumbies</a> by Tracie Baptiste <br /><a href="https://www.akpress.org/octavia-s-brood.html">Octavia’s Brood</a> edited by Adrienne Maree Brown and Walidah Imarisha <br />“Sera” by Nicola Yoon from <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31450752-because-you-love-to-hate-me">Because You Love to Hate Me</a> edited by Amerie </p><p>For more visit Stephanie’s blog here: <a href="https://readingblackfutures.com/black-girl-sffh/">https://readingblackfutures.com/black-girl-sffh/</a>, <a href="https://readingblackfutures.com/black-boy-sffh/">https://readingblackfutures.com/black-boy-sffh/</a>, <a href="https://readingblackfutures.com/black-sffh-anthologies/">https://readingblackfutures.com/black-sffh-anthologies/</a></p><p>Raymond Williams, “<a href="http://artsites.ucsc.edu/faculty/gustafson/FILM%20162.W10/readings/Williams.Ordinary.pdf">Culture is Ordinary</a>”</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <br /><a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Participatory Civic Media with Cathy Cohen and Jen Humke</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week Henry and Colin are joined by Cathy Cohen, a distinguished professor at the University of Chicago and Jen Humke, a senior program officer at the MacArthur Foundation to discuss Participatory Civic Media. Cohen discusses her work with <i>The Black Youth Project </i>and <i>GenForward</i>, projects that are focused on building independent institutions and influencing media institutions, respectively. These projects are supported by Humke through the MacArthur Foundation. We discuss the work introduced by the guests as they focus on engaging youth of color, predominantly Black youth in how they are represented and the way they represent themselves within digital media. Participatory civic media allow marginalized groups who have not had a voice in media, particularly in the political sphere, to now have one. We then consider the danger in focusing on voice more than power. More and more people may find their voice through a growing democratic digital media landscape, but that does not mean they are sharing in the power. How do we enact a power shift to give an equal playing field to all voices?</p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Cathy Cohen is the <a href="https://political-science.uchicago.edu/directory/cathy-cohen">David and Mary Winton Green Distinguished Service Professor at the University of Chicago</a>. She is also the creator of <a href="http://blackyouthproject.com/">The Black Youth Project</a> and the <a href="https://genforwardsurvey.com/">GenForward Survey.</a></p><p>Cohen is the author of <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Democracy-Remixed-Transgressing-Boundaries-Communities/dp/0195378008/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1289507361&sr=8-1"><i>Democracy Remixed: Black Youth and the Future of American Politics </i></a>and <a href="https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/B/bo3630260.html"><i>The Boundaries of Blackness: AIDS and the Breakdown of Black Politics</i></a>. She is also a co-editor of <a href="https://nyupress.org/9780814715581/women-transforming-politics/"><i>Women Transforming Politics: An Alternative Reader</i>.</a></p><p><a href="https://www.macfound.org/about/people/jennifer-humke">Jen Humke</a> is the Senior Program Officer for the Journalism and Media program at the MacArthur Foundation. Her grantmaking work focuses on participatory civic media. </p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Henry Jenkins, <a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2007/10/what_is_civic_media_1.html">What Is Civic Media?</a></p><p><a href="http://blackyouthproject.com">Black Youth Project</a><br /><a href="https://genforwardsurvey.com">genForward Survey</a></p><p><a href="https://www.civicimaginationproject.org">Civic Imagination Project</a><br /><a href="https://www.ciatlas.org">Atlas of the Civic Imagination</a></p><p><a href="https://www.annenberglab.com/civic-media-fellowship/">Civic Media Fellowship</a></p><p>Danielle Allen on <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/01/21/four-kinds-truth-america-needs-pursue-reconciliation/">Reconciliation</a></p><p><a href="https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/F/bo20299131.html"><i>From Voice to Influence: Understanding Citizenship in the Digital Age</i></a></p><p>Robin Kelly, <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/206173/freedom-dreams-by-robin-dg-kelley/"><i>Freedom Dreams</i></a></p><p>Alissa Richardson: <a href="https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/F/bo20299131.html"><i>Bearing Witness While Black: African-Americans, Smartphones and the New Protest Journalism</i></a></p><p><a href="https://therumpus.net/2021/10/25/the-rumpus-interview-with-megan-stielstra-2/">Megan Stielstra</a></p><p><a href="https://colorofchange.org">Color of Change</a></p><p><a href="https://defineamerican.com">Define American</a></p><p><a href="https://www.darnelllmoore.com/">Darnell Moore</a></p><p>Nicholas Negroponte – <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Being_Digital">Being Digital</a></p><p><a href="https://ndncollective.org/people/crystal-echo-hawk/">Crystal Echo Hawk</a><br /><a href="https://www.npr.org/2021/08/13/1027317320/why-reservations-dogs-is-so-important-for-indigenous-representation"><i>Reservation Dogs</i></a><br />Illuminative <a href="https://illuminatives.org/illuminative-on-air-podcast/">Podcast</a>  <br />Illuminative <a href="https://about.netflix.com/en/news/illuminative-and-netflix-partner-up-to-support-indigenous-producers">Netflix program</a></p><p><a href="https://www.macfound.org/videos/connie-yowell-on-digital-media-and-learning">Connie Yowell</a></p><p><a href="https://points.datasociety.net/you-think-you-want-media-literacy-do-you-7cad6af18ec2">danah boyd</a></p><p><a href="https://www.edutopia.org/video/mimi-ito-learning-social-media-spaces-big-thinkers-series">Mimi Ito</a></p><p><a href="https://www.macfound.org/programs/learning/">Digital Media and Learning</a><br /><a href="https://www.macfound.org/networks/research-network-on-youth-and-participatory-politi">Youth and Participatory Politics</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWHjA3HEGNY">Joe Kahne</a></p><p><a href="https://marchforourlives.com">March for Our Lives</a></p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/article/what-is-qanon.html">Q-Anon</a></p><p><a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2021/1/25/confronting-the-challenges-of-a-participatory-culture-fifteen-plus-years-later-part-one">Confronting the Challenges of Participatory Culture (Fifteen Years Later) </a></p><p><a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2022/1/6/back-to-school-podcasting-origin-stories">Podcasting  Origin Stories</a><br />BBC’s <i>Noise: A Human History</i>, “<a href="https://beta.prx.org/stories/103063">Radio Everywhere</a>” (14:37)<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ6FxYl9sRE">FDR fireside chat 1</a> (12:57)<br /><a href="https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4668028">Norman Corwin</a> (56:28)<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVXmJC6mPEk">Edward R. Murrow</a></p><p><a href="https://blog.simplecast.com/how-podcast-creators-are-using-discord/">Podcast and Discord</a><br /><a href="https://wrfg.org/history-of-wrfg/">Radio Free Georgia</a><br /><a href="https://www.earhustlesq.com">Ear Hustle</a><br /><a href="https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/nancy">Nancy</a><br /><a href="http://www.howtobeagirlpodcast.com">How to Be a Girl</a>; <a href="https://peabodyawards.com/award-profile/how-to-be-a-girl/">Peabody Award</a></p><p>Plus, check out these earlier earlier episodes:<br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-73-increasing-visibility-native-communities-crystal-echo-hawk/">Episode 73: Increasing Visibility is Existential for Native Communities, with Crystal Echo Hawk</a><br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-22-ben-walker-and-wu-ming/">Episode 22: Benjamen Walker and Wu Ming</a><br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-81-warren-hedges-on-the-fantasy-roots-of-the-capital-insurrection/">Episode 81: Warren Hedges on the Fantasy Roots of the Capital Insurrection</a><br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-48-digital-diversity/">Episode 48: Digital Diversity with Craig Watkins, Mimi Ito and Katie Salen</a><br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-82-bridgit-antoinette-evans-tracy-van-slyke-art-activism/">Episode 82: Bridgit Antoinette Evans and Tracy Van Slyke on the Intersection of Art and Activism</a><br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-69-fan-activism-janae-phillips-shawn-taylor/">Episode 69: The Power of Fan activism with Janae Phillips and Shawn Taylor</a></p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <br /><a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 4 Apr 2022 13:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Cathy Cohen, Jen Humke, Henry Jenkins, Colin Maclay)</author>
      <link>https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-95-participatory-civic-media-cathy-cohen-jen-humke/</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week Henry and Colin are joined by Cathy Cohen, a distinguished professor at the University of Chicago and Jen Humke, a senior program officer at the MacArthur Foundation to discuss Participatory Civic Media. Cohen discusses her work with <i>The Black Youth Project </i>and <i>GenForward</i>, projects that are focused on building independent institutions and influencing media institutions, respectively. These projects are supported by Humke through the MacArthur Foundation. We discuss the work introduced by the guests as they focus on engaging youth of color, predominantly Black youth in how they are represented and the way they represent themselves within digital media. Participatory civic media allow marginalized groups who have not had a voice in media, particularly in the political sphere, to now have one. We then consider the danger in focusing on voice more than power. More and more people may find their voice through a growing democratic digital media landscape, but that does not mean they are sharing in the power. How do we enact a power shift to give an equal playing field to all voices?</p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Cathy Cohen is the <a href="https://political-science.uchicago.edu/directory/cathy-cohen">David and Mary Winton Green Distinguished Service Professor at the University of Chicago</a>. She is also the creator of <a href="http://blackyouthproject.com/">The Black Youth Project</a> and the <a href="https://genforwardsurvey.com/">GenForward Survey.</a></p><p>Cohen is the author of <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Democracy-Remixed-Transgressing-Boundaries-Communities/dp/0195378008/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1289507361&sr=8-1"><i>Democracy Remixed: Black Youth and the Future of American Politics </i></a>and <a href="https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/B/bo3630260.html"><i>The Boundaries of Blackness: AIDS and the Breakdown of Black Politics</i></a>. She is also a co-editor of <a href="https://nyupress.org/9780814715581/women-transforming-politics/"><i>Women Transforming Politics: An Alternative Reader</i>.</a></p><p><a href="https://www.macfound.org/about/people/jennifer-humke">Jen Humke</a> is the Senior Program Officer for the Journalism and Media program at the MacArthur Foundation. Her grantmaking work focuses on participatory civic media. </p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Henry Jenkins, <a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2007/10/what_is_civic_media_1.html">What Is Civic Media?</a></p><p><a href="http://blackyouthproject.com">Black Youth Project</a><br /><a href="https://genforwardsurvey.com">genForward Survey</a></p><p><a href="https://www.civicimaginationproject.org">Civic Imagination Project</a><br /><a href="https://www.ciatlas.org">Atlas of the Civic Imagination</a></p><p><a href="https://www.annenberglab.com/civic-media-fellowship/">Civic Media Fellowship</a></p><p>Danielle Allen on <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/01/21/four-kinds-truth-america-needs-pursue-reconciliation/">Reconciliation</a></p><p><a href="https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/F/bo20299131.html"><i>From Voice to Influence: Understanding Citizenship in the Digital Age</i></a></p><p>Robin Kelly, <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/206173/freedom-dreams-by-robin-dg-kelley/"><i>Freedom Dreams</i></a></p><p>Alissa Richardson: <a href="https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/F/bo20299131.html"><i>Bearing Witness While Black: African-Americans, Smartphones and the New Protest Journalism</i></a></p><p><a href="https://therumpus.net/2021/10/25/the-rumpus-interview-with-megan-stielstra-2/">Megan Stielstra</a></p><p><a href="https://colorofchange.org">Color of Change</a></p><p><a href="https://defineamerican.com">Define American</a></p><p><a href="https://www.darnelllmoore.com/">Darnell Moore</a></p><p>Nicholas Negroponte – <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Being_Digital">Being Digital</a></p><p><a href="https://ndncollective.org/people/crystal-echo-hawk/">Crystal Echo Hawk</a><br /><a href="https://www.npr.org/2021/08/13/1027317320/why-reservations-dogs-is-so-important-for-indigenous-representation"><i>Reservation Dogs</i></a><br />Illuminative <a href="https://illuminatives.org/illuminative-on-air-podcast/">Podcast</a>  <br />Illuminative <a href="https://about.netflix.com/en/news/illuminative-and-netflix-partner-up-to-support-indigenous-producers">Netflix program</a></p><p><a href="https://www.macfound.org/videos/connie-yowell-on-digital-media-and-learning">Connie Yowell</a></p><p><a href="https://points.datasociety.net/you-think-you-want-media-literacy-do-you-7cad6af18ec2">danah boyd</a></p><p><a href="https://www.edutopia.org/video/mimi-ito-learning-social-media-spaces-big-thinkers-series">Mimi Ito</a></p><p><a href="https://www.macfound.org/programs/learning/">Digital Media and Learning</a><br /><a href="https://www.macfound.org/networks/research-network-on-youth-and-participatory-politi">Youth and Participatory Politics</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWHjA3HEGNY">Joe Kahne</a></p><p><a href="https://marchforourlives.com">March for Our Lives</a></p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/article/what-is-qanon.html">Q-Anon</a></p><p><a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2021/1/25/confronting-the-challenges-of-a-participatory-culture-fifteen-plus-years-later-part-one">Confronting the Challenges of Participatory Culture (Fifteen Years Later) </a></p><p><a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2022/1/6/back-to-school-podcasting-origin-stories">Podcasting  Origin Stories</a><br />BBC’s <i>Noise: A Human History</i>, “<a href="https://beta.prx.org/stories/103063">Radio Everywhere</a>” (14:37)<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ6FxYl9sRE">FDR fireside chat 1</a> (12:57)<br /><a href="https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4668028">Norman Corwin</a> (56:28)<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVXmJC6mPEk">Edward R. Murrow</a></p><p><a href="https://blog.simplecast.com/how-podcast-creators-are-using-discord/">Podcast and Discord</a><br /><a href="https://wrfg.org/history-of-wrfg/">Radio Free Georgia</a><br /><a href="https://www.earhustlesq.com">Ear Hustle</a><br /><a href="https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/nancy">Nancy</a><br /><a href="http://www.howtobeagirlpodcast.com">How to Be a Girl</a>; <a href="https://peabodyawards.com/award-profile/how-to-be-a-girl/">Peabody Award</a></p><p>Plus, check out these earlier earlier episodes:<br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-73-increasing-visibility-native-communities-crystal-echo-hawk/">Episode 73: Increasing Visibility is Existential for Native Communities, with Crystal Echo Hawk</a><br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-22-ben-walker-and-wu-ming/">Episode 22: Benjamen Walker and Wu Ming</a><br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-81-warren-hedges-on-the-fantasy-roots-of-the-capital-insurrection/">Episode 81: Warren Hedges on the Fantasy Roots of the Capital Insurrection</a><br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-48-digital-diversity/">Episode 48: Digital Diversity with Craig Watkins, Mimi Ito and Katie Salen</a><br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-82-bridgit-antoinette-evans-tracy-van-slyke-art-activism/">Episode 82: Bridgit Antoinette Evans and Tracy Van Slyke on the Intersection of Art and Activism</a><br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-69-fan-activism-janae-phillips-shawn-taylor/">Episode 69: The Power of Fan activism with Janae Phillips and Shawn Taylor</a></p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <br /><a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Curious Conversations Across the Divide with Mónica Guzmán</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://moniguzman.com/">Mónica Guzmán</a>, author of <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Never-Thought-That-Way-Conversations/dp/1637740328"><i>I Never Thought of It That Way: How to Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided Times</i></a>, is the Director of Digital and Storytelling at <a href="https://braverangels.org/">Braver Angels</a> which is a cross-partisan nonprofit organization dedicated to bridging America's widening political divide. Mónica’s background in journalism and her own life experiences brought her to Braver Angels as a person interested in conversation without judgment. As a daughter of Mexican immigrants who considered themselves Republicans and a journalist, Mónica understands political party differences on a personal and professional level. In the episode she describes her journey to Braver Angels and details how the organization creates spaces, through workshops, where citizens across party lines can have difficult conversations. As she and Henry explore divides within family structure she notes how family ties put more at stake in these political conversations but how that can be extremely powerful even though it is uncomfortable. Trust and listening are more important than people may think when trying to have these conversations and Braver Angels helps people develop those skills. The end of the episode also addresses some of the controversy the organization has had recently surrounding the conservative opinions related to the January 6th Capitol attack and Henry and Colin discuss how Braver Angels transparently discussed their podcasting practices in relation to misinformation and conspiracies. </p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://moniguzman.com/">Mónica Guzmán</a></p><p>Book: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Never-Thought-That-Way-Conversations/dp/1637740328"><i>I Never Thought of It That Way: How to Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided Times</i></a></p><p><a href="https://braverangels.org/">Braver Angels</a><br />Mónica’s earlier journalism for <a href="https://theevergrey.com/author/monitheevergrey-com/">The Evergrey</a> (Seattle)<br /><a href="https://youtu.be/a73sPsCIsEk">Interview with The Daily Kos</a> (“<i>you don’t have to talk to a Nazi tomorrow</i>”)</p><p>Braver Angels’ <a href="https://braverangels.org/online/families-and-politics-training/">list of roles we play in family conversations about politics</a></p><p>USC Norman Lear Center research on <a href="https://learcenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/are_you_what_you_watch.pdf">media consumption among liberals, moderates and conservatives</a><br /><br /><a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/jonathan_haidt_the_moral_roots_of_liberals_and_conservatives?language=en">Jonathan Haidt: The moral roots of liberals and conservatives</a><br />And more about his book, <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/25/books/review/the-righteous-mind-by-jonathan-haidt.html"><i>The Righteous Mind</i></a></p><p>Braver Angels podcast and controversy:<br /><a href="https://braverangels.org/depolarization-in-the-age-of-misinformation/">Depolarization in the Age of Misinformation | Jonathan Rauch with David Blankenhorn & Ciaran O'Connor</a> (our clip starts around min 7)</p><p><a href="https://braverangels.org/a-conservative-perspective-on-january-6th-the-2020-election-peter-wood-with-ciaran-oconnor/">A Conservative Perspective on January 6th & the 2020 Election | Peter Wood with Ciaran O'Connor</a> (our clip starts around min 17:00)</p><p>Braver Angels <a href="https://braverangels.org/event/national-debate-excluding-perspectives/">national debate</a> to open up the larger question—"Should we draw lines?"—to hundreds of people. President David Blankenhorn chimes in toward the end of the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgRDzmV0eMk">video</a></p><p>Braver Angels Podcast host Ciaran O'Connor’s <a href="https://www.deseret.com/opinion/2022/2/27/22939445/opinion-dear-youtube-context-matters-censorship-social-media">op-ed in the Deseret News</a> with more of the product of Braver Angels’ reflection on what happened, and also YouTube's role</p><p>Mónica’s own reflection on the issue in an <a href="https://www.americanpressinstitute.org/publications/articles/journalism-bridging-monica-guzman/">interview with the American Press Institute</a> asking "what might journalism learn from 'bridging'?."</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <br /><a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2022 13:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Henry Jenkins)</author>
      <link>https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/?p=1228</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://moniguzman.com/">Mónica Guzmán</a>, author of <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Never-Thought-That-Way-Conversations/dp/1637740328"><i>I Never Thought of It That Way: How to Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided Times</i></a>, is the Director of Digital and Storytelling at <a href="https://braverangels.org/">Braver Angels</a> which is a cross-partisan nonprofit organization dedicated to bridging America's widening political divide. Mónica’s background in journalism and her own life experiences brought her to Braver Angels as a person interested in conversation without judgment. As a daughter of Mexican immigrants who considered themselves Republicans and a journalist, Mónica understands political party differences on a personal and professional level. In the episode she describes her journey to Braver Angels and details how the organization creates spaces, through workshops, where citizens across party lines can have difficult conversations. As she and Henry explore divides within family structure she notes how family ties put more at stake in these political conversations but how that can be extremely powerful even though it is uncomfortable. Trust and listening are more important than people may think when trying to have these conversations and Braver Angels helps people develop those skills. The end of the episode also addresses some of the controversy the organization has had recently surrounding the conservative opinions related to the January 6th Capitol attack and Henry and Colin discuss how Braver Angels transparently discussed their podcasting practices in relation to misinformation and conspiracies. </p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://moniguzman.com/">Mónica Guzmán</a></p><p>Book: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Never-Thought-That-Way-Conversations/dp/1637740328"><i>I Never Thought of It That Way: How to Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided Times</i></a></p><p><a href="https://braverangels.org/">Braver Angels</a><br />Mónica’s earlier journalism for <a href="https://theevergrey.com/author/monitheevergrey-com/">The Evergrey</a> (Seattle)<br /><a href="https://youtu.be/a73sPsCIsEk">Interview with The Daily Kos</a> (“<i>you don’t have to talk to a Nazi tomorrow</i>”)</p><p>Braver Angels’ <a href="https://braverangels.org/online/families-and-politics-training/">list of roles we play in family conversations about politics</a></p><p>USC Norman Lear Center research on <a href="https://learcenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/are_you_what_you_watch.pdf">media consumption among liberals, moderates and conservatives</a><br /><br /><a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/jonathan_haidt_the_moral_roots_of_liberals_and_conservatives?language=en">Jonathan Haidt: The moral roots of liberals and conservatives</a><br />And more about his book, <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/25/books/review/the-righteous-mind-by-jonathan-haidt.html"><i>The Righteous Mind</i></a></p><p>Braver Angels podcast and controversy:<br /><a href="https://braverangels.org/depolarization-in-the-age-of-misinformation/">Depolarization in the Age of Misinformation | Jonathan Rauch with David Blankenhorn & Ciaran O'Connor</a> (our clip starts around min 7)</p><p><a href="https://braverangels.org/a-conservative-perspective-on-january-6th-the-2020-election-peter-wood-with-ciaran-oconnor/">A Conservative Perspective on January 6th & the 2020 Election | Peter Wood with Ciaran O'Connor</a> (our clip starts around min 17:00)</p><p>Braver Angels <a href="https://braverangels.org/event/national-debate-excluding-perspectives/">national debate</a> to open up the larger question—"Should we draw lines?"—to hundreds of people. President David Blankenhorn chimes in toward the end of the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgRDzmV0eMk">video</a></p><p>Braver Angels Podcast host Ciaran O'Connor’s <a href="https://www.deseret.com/opinion/2022/2/27/22939445/opinion-dear-youtube-context-matters-censorship-social-media">op-ed in the Deseret News</a> with more of the product of Braver Angels’ reflection on what happened, and also YouTube's role</p><p>Mónica’s own reflection on the issue in an <a href="https://www.americanpressinstitute.org/publications/articles/journalism-bridging-monica-guzman/">interview with the American Press Institute</a> asking "what might journalism learn from 'bridging'?."</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <br /><a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 7 Mar 2022 14:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week Henry and Colin catch up with <a href="https://www.annenberglab.com/employees/josie-duffy-rice/">AnnLab Civic Media Fellow</a> <a href="http://www.josieduffyrice.com/">Josie Duffy Rice</a> to talk about the stories we hear and tell about our criminal justice system, and how we can reframe them to focus on people, not punishment. Josie recalls how her early experiences as a journalist covering public prosecutors quickly made her realize how opaque the system was and how she continues to work to humanize issues of criminal justice reform and abolition through her work as a writer and podcast host on <a href="https://crooked.com/podcast-series/what-a-day/"><i>What a Day</i></a>. We discuss how fictional narratives, like the myriad police procedurals on television, inform much of our common understanding (and mis-understanding) of the issues, and wonder what abolition media might look like, and how it can play a central role in the real work of transitioning our culture toward one where we don’t need police and prisons.</p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="http://www.josieduffyrice.com/">Josie Duffy Rice</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/jduffyrice">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jduffyrice/">Instagram</a><br /><a href="https://crooked.com/podcast-series/what-a-day/"><i>What a Day</i></a> podcast<br /><i>Vanity Fair</i> article, <a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2020/08/the-abolition-movement">The Abolition Movement</a><br /><a href="https://theappeal.org/"><i>The Appeal</i></a><br />Josie’s earlier work on <a href="https://www.dailykos.com/users/josie%20duffy%20rice"><i>Daily Kos</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/30-years-on-death-row-exoneration-60-minutes/"><i>60 Minutes</i> story about Glenn Ford, wrongly convicted to Death Row</a><br />Prosecutor Marty Stroud’s <a href="https://www.shreveporttimes.com/story/opinion/readers/2015/03/20/lead-prosecutor-offers-apology-in-the-case-of-exonerated-death-row-inmate-glenn-ford/25049063/">public apology</a></p><p><a href="https://fs.blog/david-foster-wallace-this-is-water/">David Foster Wallace - This is Water</a></p><p>Progressive policing imagined on <a href="https://coffeeordie.com/the-wire-baltimore-decriminalized/"><i>The Wire</i></a><br /><a href="https://hls.harvard.edu/academics/curriculum/catalog/index.html?o=64609">Harvard Law School’s class on <i>The Wire</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/675803/becoming-abolitionists-by-derecka-purnell/"><i>Becoming Abolitionists</i> by Derecka Purnell</a><br />Abolitionist <a href="http://mariamekaba.com/">Mariame Kaba</a></p><p><a href="https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/06/new-star-trek-series-will-abandon-gene-roddenberrys-cardinal-rule/">Conflict on Star Trek</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-73-increasing-visibility-native-communities-crystal-echo-hawk/">Episode 73: Increasing Visibility is Existential for Native Communities, with Crystal Echo Hawk</a></p><p>This episode features clips from:<br /><i>Friends</i>: Season 7 Episode 11 "The One with all the Cheesecakes" and Season 6 Episode 9 "The One Where Ross Gets High."<br /><i>Law & Order SVU</i>: Season 15 Episode 7 "Dissonant Voices"<br /><i>The Wire:</i> Season 3 Episode 4 "Hamsterdam"<br /><i>Scandal</i>: Season 4 Episode 14</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <br /><a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Rebecca Williams and Lauren Sowa discuss Disney theme park fandom from Disneyland California to Disney theme parks across the globe. Williams and Sowa share their history with Disney films and how that love has translated into their love for the theme parks as adults. We then dive further into the theme park as a space of play for adults and why being a childless adult at Disney has been unjustly stigmatized. Even with strict rules and regulations, Disney theme parks offer spaces of play for adults who have very little safe spaces to play outside the parks. We also discuss the Disneyfication of adult source material and how that further translates into the transmedia brand universe that is specific to Disney theme parks. Disney theme parks have been spaces of ritual and transformation for both children and adults. As Disney continues to consume our fantasies with its continual purchases of franchises such as Star Wars and Marvel, how do children and adults alike contend with the rapidly expanding trans media universes that come together within the Disney theme parks while the outside world contends with its own racist, sexist, and culturally insensitive past and present.</p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://annenberg.usc.edu/communication/communication-phd/doctoral-students/lauren-alexandra-sowa">About Lauren Sowa</a></p><p><a href="https://rebeccawilliams.org/">About Rebecca Williams</a>; <a href="https://pure.southwales.ac.uk/en/persons/rebecca-williams">Faculty Page</a><br />Books:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Fan-Studies-Primer-Research-Culture/dp/1609388097/ref=sr_1_1?qid=1644272117&refinements=p_lbr_one_browse-bin:Rebecca+Williams&s=books&sr=1-1">A Fan Studies Primer</a></li><li><a href="https://www.aup.nl/en/book/9789462982574/theme-park-fandom">Theme Park Fandom: Spatial Transmedia, Materiality and Participatory Cultures</a></li><li><a href="https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/postobject-fandom-9781501319983/">Post-Object Fandom</a></li><li><a href="https://www.uipress.uiowa.edu/books/9781609385637/everybody-hurts">Everybody Hurts</a></li><li><a href="https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/torchwood-declassified-9781780761787/">Torchwood Declassified</a></li></ul><p><a href="https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2019/06/dressing-the-part-bounding-for-your-visit-to-star-wars-galaxys-edge/">How to Properly Dress at Disneyland’s Galaxy’s Edge</a><br /><a href="https://wdwprepschool.com/disneybounding/">What is DisneyBounding?</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7e6L7c_zg4">Disney Bounding Fan documentary</a></p><p><a href="https://catalog.lib.uchicago.edu/vufind/Record/4511831/TOC">Janet Wasko, Disney Project</a></p><p>Henry Jenkins, <a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2007/03/transmedia_storytelling_101.html">Transmedia Storytelling 101</a></p><p><a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2021/08/11/a-year-after-disney-said-it-would-revamp-racist-splash-mountain-its-still-open-and-company-wont-say-when-work-will-start/?sh=388aaa5be05d">Splash Mountain revamp</a><br /><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/151-splash-mountain-six-degrees-song-south-episode/id858124601?i=1000457873982">You Must Remember This on Splash Mountain</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRmt6hYQQGw">Brides for Sale</a> on Pirates of the Caribbean ride<br /><a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/2021/07/10/disneyland-jungle-cruise-ride-removes-racially-insensitive-features/7907044002/">Revisions to Jungle Cruise</a></p><p>Lauren Sowa on <a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2019/3/7/a-dream-is-a-wish-you-manifest-into-your-own-reality-celebrating-all-disney-princesses-as-feminists">Disney Princesses as Feminist Icons</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqhybcZT7rc">Mickey Mouse Monopoly: Disney, Childhood and Corporate Culture </a>– critical documentary on Disney culture</p><p><a href="https://www.pixar.com/sparkshorts">Sparks Program</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlfV6YpZwBI">The Official Album of Disneyland/Walt Disney World ride theme music</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz__bJTlOjk">Walt Disney's Tour of Disneyland</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBIHJYr_XEo">Disneyland - Lands - Wonderful World of Color - Walt Disney</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_1xsPytKJw">The Disneyland Story (Disneyland Episode #1): October 27th, 1954</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <br /><a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2022 14:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Henry Jenkins, Colin Maclay, Rebecca Williams, Lauren Sowa)</author>
      <link>https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-92-disney-theme-parks/</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rebecca Williams and Lauren Sowa discuss Disney theme park fandom from Disneyland California to Disney theme parks across the globe. Williams and Sowa share their history with Disney films and how that love has translated into their love for the theme parks as adults. We then dive further into the theme park as a space of play for adults and why being a childless adult at Disney has been unjustly stigmatized. Even with strict rules and regulations, Disney theme parks offer spaces of play for adults who have very little safe spaces to play outside the parks. We also discuss the Disneyfication of adult source material and how that further translates into the transmedia brand universe that is specific to Disney theme parks. Disney theme parks have been spaces of ritual and transformation for both children and adults. As Disney continues to consume our fantasies with its continual purchases of franchises such as Star Wars and Marvel, how do children and adults alike contend with the rapidly expanding trans media universes that come together within the Disney theme parks while the outside world contends with its own racist, sexist, and culturally insensitive past and present.</p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://annenberg.usc.edu/communication/communication-phd/doctoral-students/lauren-alexandra-sowa">About Lauren Sowa</a></p><p><a href="https://rebeccawilliams.org/">About Rebecca Williams</a>; <a href="https://pure.southwales.ac.uk/en/persons/rebecca-williams">Faculty Page</a><br />Books:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Fan-Studies-Primer-Research-Culture/dp/1609388097/ref=sr_1_1?qid=1644272117&refinements=p_lbr_one_browse-bin:Rebecca+Williams&s=books&sr=1-1">A Fan Studies Primer</a></li><li><a href="https://www.aup.nl/en/book/9789462982574/theme-park-fandom">Theme Park Fandom: Spatial Transmedia, Materiality and Participatory Cultures</a></li><li><a href="https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/postobject-fandom-9781501319983/">Post-Object Fandom</a></li><li><a href="https://www.uipress.uiowa.edu/books/9781609385637/everybody-hurts">Everybody Hurts</a></li><li><a href="https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/torchwood-declassified-9781780761787/">Torchwood Declassified</a></li></ul><p><a href="https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2019/06/dressing-the-part-bounding-for-your-visit-to-star-wars-galaxys-edge/">How to Properly Dress at Disneyland’s Galaxy’s Edge</a><br /><a href="https://wdwprepschool.com/disneybounding/">What is DisneyBounding?</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7e6L7c_zg4">Disney Bounding Fan documentary</a></p><p><a href="https://catalog.lib.uchicago.edu/vufind/Record/4511831/TOC">Janet Wasko, Disney Project</a></p><p>Henry Jenkins, <a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2007/03/transmedia_storytelling_101.html">Transmedia Storytelling 101</a></p><p><a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2021/08/11/a-year-after-disney-said-it-would-revamp-racist-splash-mountain-its-still-open-and-company-wont-say-when-work-will-start/?sh=388aaa5be05d">Splash Mountain revamp</a><br /><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/151-splash-mountain-six-degrees-song-south-episode/id858124601?i=1000457873982">You Must Remember This on Splash Mountain</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRmt6hYQQGw">Brides for Sale</a> on Pirates of the Caribbean ride<br /><a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/2021/07/10/disneyland-jungle-cruise-ride-removes-racially-insensitive-features/7907044002/">Revisions to Jungle Cruise</a></p><p>Lauren Sowa on <a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2019/3/7/a-dream-is-a-wish-you-manifest-into-your-own-reality-celebrating-all-disney-princesses-as-feminists">Disney Princesses as Feminist Icons</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqhybcZT7rc">Mickey Mouse Monopoly: Disney, Childhood and Corporate Culture </a>– critical documentary on Disney culture</p><p><a href="https://www.pixar.com/sparkshorts">Sparks Program</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlfV6YpZwBI">The Official Album of Disneyland/Walt Disney World ride theme music</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz__bJTlOjk">Walt Disney's Tour of Disneyland</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBIHJYr_XEo">Disneyland - Lands - Wonderful World of Color - Walt Disney</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_1xsPytKJw">The Disneyland Story (Disneyland Episode #1): October 27th, 1954</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <br /><a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>How the Arts Can Save Education with Erica Halverson</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week we’re joined by a whoopensocker of a guest - Erica Halverson. After telling us all what a “whoopensocker” is, she brings us up to speed on her education intervention of the same name, where teaching artists employ the rules of improv to encourage kids to express themselves and engage in collaborative storytelling. Those stories are then presented back to them in the form of a professionalized vaudeville show on the Whoopensocker <a href="https://www.ericahalverson.com/whoop-podcast">podcast</a> and <a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/Whoopensocker">YouTube channel</a>. We discuss how these methods confront some of the failings of traditional learning environments and assessments in the classroom today, as well as honor the importance of The Arts in education in a way that seems absent from most STEAM programs.</p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>More about Erica Halverson, past and present projects: <a href="https://www.ericahalverson.com/">https://www.ericahalverson.com/</a><br />Book: <a href="https://www.tcpress.com/how-the-arts-can-save-education-9780807765722"><i>How the Arts Can Save Education</i></a><br /><a href="https://place.education.wisc.edu/youthprograms/uw-community-arts-collaboratory/whoopensocker/">The Whoopensocker Project</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/Whoopensocker">Whoopensocker Podcast</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/Whoopensocker">Whoopensocker YouTube</a></p><p><a href="https://volumeone.org/news/2015/06/20/252907-what-the-heck-is-a-whoopensocker">What the heck is a Whoopensocker?</a></p><p><a href="https://www.playmakerslab.org/">Playmakers Laboratory</a>, Chicago<br /><a href="https://www.littlebrown.com/titles/tina-fey/bossypants/9781609419691/"><i>Bossypants</i></a> by Tina Fey (see: “the rules of improv and how they can change your life”)</p><p>Henry’s blog series on his open-laptop exam:<br /><a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2011/02/what_constitutes_an_open-book.html">The Question</a><br /><a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2012/10/yes-you-can-use-your-laptop-on-this-exam-and-your-knowledge-community-too.html">Knowledge Community</a><br />What Happened<a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2013/01/what-happened-with-my-open-laptop-exam-class-part-one.html"> Part One</a> <a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2013/01/what-happened-in-my-open-laptop-exam-class-part-two.html">Part Two</a><br />Open Laptop Activities <a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2013/01/once-you-open-your-laptop-activities-from-my-technology-and-culture-class-part-one.html">Part One</a>  <a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2013/01/once-you-open-your-laptop-activities-from-my-technologies-and-culture-class-part-two.html">Part Two</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dn5UhUMCSz0"><i>Baking Impossible</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNpIOlDhigw"><i>Portlandia</i>: Put a Bird On It!</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBdoJjDA1cs"><i>Making It</i></a> with Amy Poehler & Nick Offerman</p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/2fknQru3D4hvsU7BDfgbSd">Carole King - Really Rosie</a></p><p>Kids’ pop culture references:<br /><a href="https://www.nba.com/player/203507">Giannis Antetokounmpo | Milwaukee Bucks</a><br /><a href="https://www.epicgames.com/fortnite/en-US/home">Fortnite</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dab_(dance)#:~:text=Dabbing%2C%20or%20the%20dab%2C%20is,youthful%20fad%20and%20Internet%20meme.">Dabbing</a><br /><a href="https://fivenightsatfreddys.io/">Five Nights At Freddy's</a><br /><a href="https://www.wwe.com/superstars/john-cena">John Cena</a></p><p><a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2016/08/05/488669276/remembering-a-thinker-who-thought-about-thinking">Seymour Papert</a><br /><a href="https://www.media.mit.edu/people/mres/overview/">Mitch Resnick</a><br /><a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2009/12/inside_the_computer_clubhouse.html">Computer Clubhouse</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirley_Brice_Heath">Shirley Brice Heath</a></p><p><a href="http://edutechwiki.unige.ch/en/Constructionism">Constructionism</a> - constructivist theory of learning</p><p><a href="https://sixonbroadway.com/"><i>Six</i></a>, the musical</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputnik_crisis">Sputnik Crisis</a><br /><a href="https://eric.ed.gov/?id=ED001838">Margaret Mead - <i>A Creative Life for Your Children</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.upress.umn.edu/book-division/books/designing-the-creative-child">Amy Ogata – <i>Designing the Creative Child</i></a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2022 14:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Erica Halverson, Henry Jenkins, Colin Maclay)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week we’re joined by a whoopensocker of a guest - Erica Halverson. After telling us all what a “whoopensocker” is, she brings us up to speed on her education intervention of the same name, where teaching artists employ the rules of improv to encourage kids to express themselves and engage in collaborative storytelling. Those stories are then presented back to them in the form of a professionalized vaudeville show on the Whoopensocker <a href="https://www.ericahalverson.com/whoop-podcast">podcast</a> and <a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/Whoopensocker">YouTube channel</a>. We discuss how these methods confront some of the failings of traditional learning environments and assessments in the classroom today, as well as honor the importance of The Arts in education in a way that seems absent from most STEAM programs.</p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>More about Erica Halverson, past and present projects: <a href="https://www.ericahalverson.com/">https://www.ericahalverson.com/</a><br />Book: <a href="https://www.tcpress.com/how-the-arts-can-save-education-9780807765722"><i>How the Arts Can Save Education</i></a><br /><a href="https://place.education.wisc.edu/youthprograms/uw-community-arts-collaboratory/whoopensocker/">The Whoopensocker Project</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/Whoopensocker">Whoopensocker Podcast</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/Whoopensocker">Whoopensocker YouTube</a></p><p><a href="https://volumeone.org/news/2015/06/20/252907-what-the-heck-is-a-whoopensocker">What the heck is a Whoopensocker?</a></p><p><a href="https://www.playmakerslab.org/">Playmakers Laboratory</a>, Chicago<br /><a href="https://www.littlebrown.com/titles/tina-fey/bossypants/9781609419691/"><i>Bossypants</i></a> by Tina Fey (see: “the rules of improv and how they can change your life”)</p><p>Henry’s blog series on his open-laptop exam:<br /><a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2011/02/what_constitutes_an_open-book.html">The Question</a><br /><a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2012/10/yes-you-can-use-your-laptop-on-this-exam-and-your-knowledge-community-too.html">Knowledge Community</a><br />What Happened<a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2013/01/what-happened-with-my-open-laptop-exam-class-part-one.html"> Part One</a> <a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2013/01/what-happened-in-my-open-laptop-exam-class-part-two.html">Part Two</a><br />Open Laptop Activities <a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2013/01/once-you-open-your-laptop-activities-from-my-technology-and-culture-class-part-one.html">Part One</a>  <a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2013/01/once-you-open-your-laptop-activities-from-my-technologies-and-culture-class-part-two.html">Part Two</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dn5UhUMCSz0"><i>Baking Impossible</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNpIOlDhigw"><i>Portlandia</i>: Put a Bird On It!</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBdoJjDA1cs"><i>Making It</i></a> with Amy Poehler & Nick Offerman</p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/2fknQru3D4hvsU7BDfgbSd">Carole King - Really Rosie</a></p><p>Kids’ pop culture references:<br /><a href="https://www.nba.com/player/203507">Giannis Antetokounmpo | Milwaukee Bucks</a><br /><a href="https://www.epicgames.com/fortnite/en-US/home">Fortnite</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dab_(dance)#:~:text=Dabbing%2C%20or%20the%20dab%2C%20is,youthful%20fad%20and%20Internet%20meme.">Dabbing</a><br /><a href="https://fivenightsatfreddys.io/">Five Nights At Freddy's</a><br /><a href="https://www.wwe.com/superstars/john-cena">John Cena</a></p><p><a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2016/08/05/488669276/remembering-a-thinker-who-thought-about-thinking">Seymour Papert</a><br /><a href="https://www.media.mit.edu/people/mres/overview/">Mitch Resnick</a><br /><a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2009/12/inside_the_computer_clubhouse.html">Computer Clubhouse</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirley_Brice_Heath">Shirley Brice Heath</a></p><p><a href="http://edutechwiki.unige.ch/en/Constructionism">Constructionism</a> - constructivist theory of learning</p><p><a href="https://sixonbroadway.com/"><i>Six</i></a>, the musical</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputnik_crisis">Sputnik Crisis</a><br /><a href="https://eric.ed.gov/?id=ED001838">Margaret Mead - <i>A Creative Life for Your Children</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.upress.umn.edu/book-division/books/designing-the-creative-child">Amy Ogata – <i>Designing the Creative Child</i></a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! 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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week Henry & Colin are joined by <a href="https://lorikidolopez.com/">Lori Kido Lopez</a>, Professor of Media and Cultural Studies and Director of the Asian American Studies Program at University of Wisconsin-Madison, to discuss her new book, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Micro-Media-Industries-American-Innovation/dp/1978823347"><i>Micro Media Industries: Hmong American Media Innovation in the Diaspora</i></a>. Lopez shares some background on this little-known ethnic community’s place in the U.S. and how their unique media ecologies serve their needs. We also consider the many innovations in format, genre, and technology that have developed where traditional media outlets would not be viable for this relatively small population with a largely oral culture, notably the use of teleconference lines that serve effectively as 24-hour radio stations. With a mix of participatory and broadcast media thriving outside of a commercial revenue model, there is a lot to consider about the future of the mass-market media landscape.</p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Lopez’s books:<br /><a href="https://nyupress.org/9781479866830/"><i>Asian American Media Activism: Fighting for Cultural Citizenship</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Micro-Media-Industries-American-Innovation/dp/1978823347"><i>Micro Media Industries: Hmong American Media Innovation in the Diaspora</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5jtFqWq5iU">Jon Oliver segment about misinformation in diasporic media</a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hoochim/id1022174183">#hoomchim</a> Hmong LGBTQ podcast</p><p><a href="https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/what-is-clubhouse-app">What is Clubhouse</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week Henry & Colin are joined by <a href="https://lorikidolopez.com/">Lori Kido Lopez</a>, Professor of Media and Cultural Studies and Director of the Asian American Studies Program at University of Wisconsin-Madison, to discuss her new book, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Micro-Media-Industries-American-Innovation/dp/1978823347"><i>Micro Media Industries: Hmong American Media Innovation in the Diaspora</i></a>. Lopez shares some background on this little-known ethnic community’s place in the U.S. and how their unique media ecologies serve their needs. We also consider the many innovations in format, genre, and technology that have developed where traditional media outlets would not be viable for this relatively small population with a largely oral culture, notably the use of teleconference lines that serve effectively as 24-hour radio stations. With a mix of participatory and broadcast media thriving outside of a commercial revenue model, there is a lot to consider about the future of the mass-market media landscape.</p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Lopez’s books:<br /><a href="https://nyupress.org/9781479866830/"><i>Asian American Media Activism: Fighting for Cultural Citizenship</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Micro-Media-Industries-American-Innovation/dp/1978823347"><i>Micro Media Industries: Hmong American Media Innovation in the Diaspora</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5jtFqWq5iU">Jon Oliver segment about misinformation in diasporic media</a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hoochim/id1022174183">#hoomchim</a> Hmong LGBTQ podcast</p><p><a href="https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/what-is-clubhouse-app">What is Clubhouse</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week, <a href="https://sherryturkle.mit.edu/">Sherry Turkle</a>, MIT professor and author, joins Henry & Colin to discuss her new memoir, <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/585731/the-empathy-diaries-by-sherry-turkle/"><i>The Empathy Diaries.</i></a> Sherry and Henry talk about their shared experiences of teaching arts & humanities at MIT. Since Sherry’s work is usually interpreted as a critique of technology and Henry’s work is interpreted as a support of technology, they both start by sharing some recent optimism that Sherry has about technology, and some recent pessimism that Henry has about technology. Sherry expresses concerns about people’s apathy about the increasing intrusion of technology in our lives, and how that could potentially lead to the erosion of our rights. Sherry reflects back on the process of memoir writing and questioning her own assumptions earlier in life. She shares a story about being asked to make dinner for Steve Jobs instead of being invited to a meeting with him, and how reflecting on that was a humbling experience. Ultimately, Sherry ends with posing a question about not only how we can see empathy as a pathway into politics, but how we can expand the definition of empathy and apply that to our own lives. </p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Sherry Turkle’s new memoir, <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/585731/the-empathy-diaries-by-sherry-turkle/"><i>The Empathy Diaries</i></a></p><p><a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/falling-science"><i>Falling for Science</i></a>, one of the books she edited of her students’ writing</p><p><a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2011/08/an_interview_with_sherry_turkl.html">Henry’s blog interview with Sherry Turkle</a></p><p><a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/sherry_turkle_connected_but_alone?language=en">Sherry Turkle’s TED talk</a></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Cult-Amateur-MySpace-user-generated-destroying/dp/0385520816"><i>The Cult of the Amateur</i></a> by Andrew Keen</p><p>Henry and his son on the <a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2021/9/20/an-interview-with-charlie-jenkins">ASMR community</a></p><p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/01/totalitarianism-in-age-donald-trump-lessons-from-hannah-arendt-protests">Hannah Arendt on Totalitarianism</a></p><p><a href="https://www.newsweek.com/trump-says-republicans-wont-vote-midterms-2024-election-if-2020-fraud-isnt-solved-1638730">Trump’s statement that republicans shouldn’t vote in 2022 and 2024 elections</a></p><p><a href="https://emotionsblog.history.qmul.ac.uk/2018/08/depaysement/">Depaysement</a></p><p>Fiction that shaped Sherry’s childhood:<br />Nancy Drew - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_of_the_Old_Clock"><i>The Secret of the Old Clock</i></a><br />Jane Austen - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pride_and_Prejudice"><i>Pride & Prejudice</i></a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Fair_Lady"><i>My Fair Lady</i></a> stage musical</p><p>Current TV she’s enjoying:<br /><a href="https://www.hbo.com/succession"><i>Succession</i></a><i> (</i><a href="https://www.institutmontaigne.org/en/blog/through-looking-glass-succession-between-king-lear-and-murdochs"><i>Influence of King Lear</i></a><i>)</i><br /><a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/dickinson/umc.cmc.1ogyy5s2agasxa5qztabrlykn"><i>Dickinson</i></a></p><p>Nina Eliasoph, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Avoiding-Politics-Americans-Everyday-Cambridge/dp/052158759X">Avoiding Politics: How Americans Produce Apathy in Everyday Life</a></p><p>Henry’s memoir piece about comics and mourning can be found in Turkle’s <a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/evocative-objects">Evocative Objects book</a>  </p><p>Allissa Richardson, <a href="https://oxford.universitypressscholarship.com/view/10.1093/oso/9780190935528.001.0001/oso-9780190935528"><i>Bearing Witness While Black: African Americans, Smartphones, and the New Protest #Journalism</i></a></p><p>Henry Jenkins’s<a href="http://web.mit.edu/comm-forum/legacy/forums/jenkins_farewell.html"> Farewell to MIT</a></p><p>John Perry Barlow, <a href="https://www.eff.org/cyberspace-independence">“Declaration of Independence in Cyberspace”</a></p><p>Julian Dibbell, <a href="http://www.juliandibbell.com/articles/a-rape-in-cyberspace/">“A Rape in Cyberspace”</a></p><p><a href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10304312.2021.2003303?src=&journalCode=ccon20">Atlas of the Civic Imagination</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemme</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <br /><a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, <a href="https://sherryturkle.mit.edu/">Sherry Turkle</a>, MIT professor and author, joins Henry & Colin to discuss her new memoir, <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/585731/the-empathy-diaries-by-sherry-turkle/"><i>The Empathy Diaries.</i></a> Sherry and Henry talk about their shared experiences of teaching arts & humanities at MIT. Since Sherry’s work is usually interpreted as a critique of technology and Henry’s work is interpreted as a support of technology, they both start by sharing some recent optimism that Sherry has about technology, and some recent pessimism that Henry has about technology. Sherry expresses concerns about people’s apathy about the increasing intrusion of technology in our lives, and how that could potentially lead to the erosion of our rights. Sherry reflects back on the process of memoir writing and questioning her own assumptions earlier in life. She shares a story about being asked to make dinner for Steve Jobs instead of being invited to a meeting with him, and how reflecting on that was a humbling experience. Ultimately, Sherry ends with posing a question about not only how we can see empathy as a pathway into politics, but how we can expand the definition of empathy and apply that to our own lives. </p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Sherry Turkle’s new memoir, <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/585731/the-empathy-diaries-by-sherry-turkle/"><i>The Empathy Diaries</i></a></p><p><a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/falling-science"><i>Falling for Science</i></a>, one of the books she edited of her students’ writing</p><p><a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2011/08/an_interview_with_sherry_turkl.html">Henry’s blog interview with Sherry Turkle</a></p><p><a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/sherry_turkle_connected_but_alone?language=en">Sherry Turkle’s TED talk</a></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Cult-Amateur-MySpace-user-generated-destroying/dp/0385520816"><i>The Cult of the Amateur</i></a> by Andrew Keen</p><p>Henry and his son on the <a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2021/9/20/an-interview-with-charlie-jenkins">ASMR community</a></p><p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/01/totalitarianism-in-age-donald-trump-lessons-from-hannah-arendt-protests">Hannah Arendt on Totalitarianism</a></p><p><a href="https://www.newsweek.com/trump-says-republicans-wont-vote-midterms-2024-election-if-2020-fraud-isnt-solved-1638730">Trump’s statement that republicans shouldn’t vote in 2022 and 2024 elections</a></p><p><a href="https://emotionsblog.history.qmul.ac.uk/2018/08/depaysement/">Depaysement</a></p><p>Fiction that shaped Sherry’s childhood:<br />Nancy Drew - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_of_the_Old_Clock"><i>The Secret of the Old Clock</i></a><br />Jane Austen - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pride_and_Prejudice"><i>Pride & Prejudice</i></a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Fair_Lady"><i>My Fair Lady</i></a> stage musical</p><p>Current TV she’s enjoying:<br /><a href="https://www.hbo.com/succession"><i>Succession</i></a><i> (</i><a href="https://www.institutmontaigne.org/en/blog/through-looking-glass-succession-between-king-lear-and-murdochs"><i>Influence of King Lear</i></a><i>)</i><br /><a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/dickinson/umc.cmc.1ogyy5s2agasxa5qztabrlykn"><i>Dickinson</i></a></p><p>Nina Eliasoph, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Avoiding-Politics-Americans-Everyday-Cambridge/dp/052158759X">Avoiding Politics: How Americans Produce Apathy in Everyday Life</a></p><p>Henry’s memoir piece about comics and mourning can be found in Turkle’s <a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/evocative-objects">Evocative Objects book</a>  </p><p>Allissa Richardson, <a href="https://oxford.universitypressscholarship.com/view/10.1093/oso/9780190935528.001.0001/oso-9780190935528"><i>Bearing Witness While Black: African Americans, Smartphones, and the New Protest #Journalism</i></a></p><p>Henry Jenkins’s<a href="http://web.mit.edu/comm-forum/legacy/forums/jenkins_farewell.html"> Farewell to MIT</a></p><p>John Perry Barlow, <a href="https://www.eff.org/cyberspace-independence">“Declaration of Independence in Cyberspace”</a></p><p>Julian Dibbell, <a href="http://www.juliandibbell.com/articles/a-rape-in-cyberspace/">“A Rape in Cyberspace”</a></p><p><a href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10304312.2021.2003303?src=&journalCode=ccon20">Atlas of the Civic Imagination</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemme</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <br /><a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Race &amp; Fandom, with andré carrington, Abigail De Kosnik, and Rukmini Pande</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week, Henry & Colin are joined by three fan studies scholars, <a href="http://www.andrecarringtonphd.com/">andré m. carrington</a>,author of <a href="https://www.upress.umn.edu/book-division/books/speculative-blackness"><i>Speculative Blackness: The Future of Race in Science Fiction</i></a>; <a href="https://twitter.com/de_kosnik">Abigail De Kosnik</a>, author of <a href="https://www.press.umich.edu/9697147/"><i>#identity: Hashtagging Race, Gender, Sexuality, and Nation</i></a>; and <a href="https://twitter.com/rukminipande?lang=en">Rukmini Pande</a> author of <a href="https://www.uipress.uiowa.edu/books/9781609387280/fandom-now-in-color"><i>Fandom, Now in Color</i></a> and <a href="https://www.uipress.uiowa.edu/books/9781609386184/squee-from-the-margins"><i>Squee from the Margins</i></a>. We talk about how race has been addressed (or not) in fandoms and fan studies, digging into recent fandom controversies over race, such as <i>Star Wars: The Last Jedi</i>, and the legacy of fandom’s roots in America. We ask how Squid Games can be the most popular series on Netflix, even as we are seeing an unprecidented wave of anti-Asian hate crimes or why fandom has tended to ignore some of the characters of color who have emerged through popular entertainment franchises. Ultimately, how can we look beyond the competing narratives of “fandom will save us” vs. “toxic fandom” for more nuanced ways to understand and deal with societal biases through fandoms?</p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="http://www.andrecarringtonphd.com/">andré m. carrington</a> - <a href="https://profiles.ucr.edu/app/home/profile/andrc">Associate Professor of English at the University of California-Riverside</a>, author of <a href="https://www.upress.umn.edu/book-division/books/speculative-blackness"><i>Speculative Blackness: The Future of Race in Science Fiction</i></a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/de_kosnik">Abigail De Kosnik</a> - Associate Professor and Director, <a href="http://bcnm.berkeley.edu/">Berkeley Center for New Media</a>, author of <a href="https://www.press.umich.edu/9697147/"><i>#identity: Hashtagging Race, Gender, Sexuality, and Nation</i></a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/rukminipande?lang=en">Rukmini Pande</a> - <a href="https://jgu.edu.in/jslh/dr-rukmini-pande/">Associate Professor, Literary Studies and Writing, Jindal School of Liberal Arts & Humanities</a>, author of <a href="https://www.uipress.uiowa.edu/books/9781609387280/fandom-now-in-color"><i>Fandom, Now in Color</i></a> and <a href="https://www.uipress.uiowa.edu/books/9781609386184/squee-from-the-margins"><i>Squee from the Margins</i></a></p><p>Original <a href="https://www.startrek.com/shows/star-trek-the-original-series">Star Trek</a> series – <a href="https://fanlore.org/wiki/History_of_Star_Trek_Fan_Campaigns">origins of fandom</a></p><p>Star Wars Last Jedi trolling - <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-44379473">Kelly Marie Tran</a>, <a href="https://www.insider.com/star-wars-statement-bullying-racism-krystina-arielle-fan-reactions-2021-1">Krystina Arielle</a>, <a href="https://deadline.com/2020/11/john-boyega-star-wars-phone-call-producers-race-kathleen-kennedy-1234620306/">John Boyega</a></p><p><a href="https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9729267/Tolkien-things-far-Fans-accuse-Lord-Rings-writer-society-political-correctness.html">Tolkien fandom dust-up</a></p><p>Early <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherlock_Holmes_fandom">Sherlock Holmes fan clubs</a></p><p><a href="https://www.gq.com/story/this-is-how-star-trek-invented-fandom">Star Trek</a>, <a href="https://blakes7.fandom.com/wiki/Blake%27s_7_Wiki">Blake’s 7</a> 60s-70s</p><p><a href="https://fanlore.org/wiki/Fandom_and_the_Internet">Early internet fandom </a>– usenet, geo cities, yahoo groups</p><p><a href="https://slate.com/technology/2018/03/why-did-fans-leave-livejournal-and-where-will-they-go-after-tumblr.html">Live Journal</a></p><p>Fan Pressure to integrate:</p><p>Jordan Peele’s <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Twilight_Zone_(2019_TV_series)">Twilight Zone Reboot</a></p><p>Ava duVernay’s <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Wrinkle_in_Time_(2018_film)">A Wrinkle in Time</a></p><p>Disney’s live action version <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Little_Mermaid_(2023_film)">The Little Mermaid</a></p><p>The Flash – <a href="https://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-the-flash-iris-west-cw-20141009-story.html">pushback on casting Iris as Black</a></p><p>Netflix announces <a href="https://deadline.com/2021/10/squid-game-111-million-views-in-first-month-cruising-past-bridgerton-top-all-time-netflix-original-1234854955/">Squid Game is bigger than Bridgerton</a></p><p><a href="https://criticalposthumanism.net/high-tech-orientalism-cyberpunk-race/">Wendy Chun – High-Tech orientalism</a></p><p><a href="https://fanlore.org/wiki/Shipping">Concept of “ships”/"shipping"</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bong_Joon-ho">Bong Joon-ho</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Yeun">Steven Yeun</a></p><p><a href="https://www.newsweek.com/bruce-lee-king-fu-martial-arts-390811">Bruce Lee (actor) vs. Kato in the Green Hornet (character)</a></p><p><a href="https://news.yahoo.com/simu-liu-touts-weibo-messages-214342971.html">Simu Liu (actor) vs. Shang-Chi (character)</a></p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/03/world/asia/squid-game-korea-bts.html?campaign_id=53&emc=edit_ms_20211105&instance_id=44768&nl=louder&regi_id=65686326&segment_id=73705&te=1&user_id=a2644345876d86c6fdcc0940c7bb560c">Korean media wave</a>: BTS, Parasite</p><p><a href="https://www.themarysue.com/the-top-archive-of-our-own-ships-say-a-lot-about-fandom/">Fan fiction and diversity/inclusion</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJIBBGLKUA8">Sorry to Bother You</a> (Boots Riley)</p><p>Tenoch Huerta as <a href="https://www.theilluminerdi.com/2021/06/07/black-panther-2-tenoch-namor/">Namor </a>(Black Panther character)</p><p><a href="https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2459454/why-oscar-isaac-wasnt-shocked-by-the-star-wars-fan-backlash">Oscar Isaac</a></p><p><a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2021/09/shang-chi-tony-leung-interview-wenwu-fathers-the-mandarin-stereotypes">Tony Leung</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_user">Lead Users</a> and <a href="https://web.mit.edu/evhippel/www/books/DI/DemocInn.pdf">Democratizing Innovation</a> book by <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N84u7tBQDrs">Eric Von Hipple</a></p><p><a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2020/9/14/interview-with-robert-kozinets-part-one">Robert Kozinets</a></p><p><a href="https://www.lareviewofbooks.org/article/pointing-at-the-wrong-villain-cass-sunstein-and-echo-chambers/">Review of #Republic (and the value of deliberating enclaves)</a> by <a href="https://weinberger.org/">David Weinberger</a></p><p><a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2013/12/from-imaginary-to-virtual-worlds-an-interview-with-historian-michael-sayler-part-two.html">Michael Saler - a public sphere of the imagination</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-79-new-online-public-spaces-talia-stroud-eli-pariser/">Episode #79: Hope for New Online Public Spaces with Talia Stroud and Eli Pariser</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2021 14:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Abigail De Kosnik, Rukmini Pande, Colin Maclay, Henry Jenkins, andré m. carrington)</author>
      <link>https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-88-race-fandom-with-andre-carrington-abigail-dekosnick-and-rukmini-pande/</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Henry & Colin are joined by three fan studies scholars, <a href="http://www.andrecarringtonphd.com/">andré m. carrington</a>,author of <a href="https://www.upress.umn.edu/book-division/books/speculative-blackness"><i>Speculative Blackness: The Future of Race in Science Fiction</i></a>; <a href="https://twitter.com/de_kosnik">Abigail De Kosnik</a>, author of <a href="https://www.press.umich.edu/9697147/"><i>#identity: Hashtagging Race, Gender, Sexuality, and Nation</i></a>; and <a href="https://twitter.com/rukminipande?lang=en">Rukmini Pande</a> author of <a href="https://www.uipress.uiowa.edu/books/9781609387280/fandom-now-in-color"><i>Fandom, Now in Color</i></a> and <a href="https://www.uipress.uiowa.edu/books/9781609386184/squee-from-the-margins"><i>Squee from the Margins</i></a>. We talk about how race has been addressed (or not) in fandoms and fan studies, digging into recent fandom controversies over race, such as <i>Star Wars: The Last Jedi</i>, and the legacy of fandom’s roots in America. We ask how Squid Games can be the most popular series on Netflix, even as we are seeing an unprecidented wave of anti-Asian hate crimes or why fandom has tended to ignore some of the characters of color who have emerged through popular entertainment franchises. Ultimately, how can we look beyond the competing narratives of “fandom will save us” vs. “toxic fandom” for more nuanced ways to understand and deal with societal biases through fandoms?</p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="http://www.andrecarringtonphd.com/">andré m. carrington</a> - <a href="https://profiles.ucr.edu/app/home/profile/andrc">Associate Professor of English at the University of California-Riverside</a>, author of <a href="https://www.upress.umn.edu/book-division/books/speculative-blackness"><i>Speculative Blackness: The Future of Race in Science Fiction</i></a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/de_kosnik">Abigail De Kosnik</a> - Associate Professor and Director, <a href="http://bcnm.berkeley.edu/">Berkeley Center for New Media</a>, author of <a href="https://www.press.umich.edu/9697147/"><i>#identity: Hashtagging Race, Gender, Sexuality, and Nation</i></a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/rukminipande?lang=en">Rukmini Pande</a> - <a href="https://jgu.edu.in/jslh/dr-rukmini-pande/">Associate Professor, Literary Studies and Writing, Jindal School of Liberal Arts & Humanities</a>, author of <a href="https://www.uipress.uiowa.edu/books/9781609387280/fandom-now-in-color"><i>Fandom, Now in Color</i></a> and <a href="https://www.uipress.uiowa.edu/books/9781609386184/squee-from-the-margins"><i>Squee from the Margins</i></a></p><p>Original <a href="https://www.startrek.com/shows/star-trek-the-original-series">Star Trek</a> series – <a href="https://fanlore.org/wiki/History_of_Star_Trek_Fan_Campaigns">origins of fandom</a></p><p>Star Wars Last Jedi trolling - <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-44379473">Kelly Marie Tran</a>, <a href="https://www.insider.com/star-wars-statement-bullying-racism-krystina-arielle-fan-reactions-2021-1">Krystina Arielle</a>, <a href="https://deadline.com/2020/11/john-boyega-star-wars-phone-call-producers-race-kathleen-kennedy-1234620306/">John Boyega</a></p><p><a href="https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9729267/Tolkien-things-far-Fans-accuse-Lord-Rings-writer-society-political-correctness.html">Tolkien fandom dust-up</a></p><p>Early <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherlock_Holmes_fandom">Sherlock Holmes fan clubs</a></p><p><a href="https://www.gq.com/story/this-is-how-star-trek-invented-fandom">Star Trek</a>, <a href="https://blakes7.fandom.com/wiki/Blake%27s_7_Wiki">Blake’s 7</a> 60s-70s</p><p><a href="https://fanlore.org/wiki/Fandom_and_the_Internet">Early internet fandom </a>– usenet, geo cities, yahoo groups</p><p><a href="https://slate.com/technology/2018/03/why-did-fans-leave-livejournal-and-where-will-they-go-after-tumblr.html">Live Journal</a></p><p>Fan Pressure to integrate:</p><p>Jordan Peele’s <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Twilight_Zone_(2019_TV_series)">Twilight Zone Reboot</a></p><p>Ava duVernay’s <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Wrinkle_in_Time_(2018_film)">A Wrinkle in Time</a></p><p>Disney’s live action version <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Little_Mermaid_(2023_film)">The Little Mermaid</a></p><p>The Flash – <a href="https://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-the-flash-iris-west-cw-20141009-story.html">pushback on casting Iris as Black</a></p><p>Netflix announces <a href="https://deadline.com/2021/10/squid-game-111-million-views-in-first-month-cruising-past-bridgerton-top-all-time-netflix-original-1234854955/">Squid Game is bigger than Bridgerton</a></p><p><a href="https://criticalposthumanism.net/high-tech-orientalism-cyberpunk-race/">Wendy Chun – High-Tech orientalism</a></p><p><a href="https://fanlore.org/wiki/Shipping">Concept of “ships”/"shipping"</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bong_Joon-ho">Bong Joon-ho</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Yeun">Steven Yeun</a></p><p><a href="https://www.newsweek.com/bruce-lee-king-fu-martial-arts-390811">Bruce Lee (actor) vs. Kato in the Green Hornet (character)</a></p><p><a href="https://news.yahoo.com/simu-liu-touts-weibo-messages-214342971.html">Simu Liu (actor) vs. Shang-Chi (character)</a></p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/03/world/asia/squid-game-korea-bts.html?campaign_id=53&emc=edit_ms_20211105&instance_id=44768&nl=louder&regi_id=65686326&segment_id=73705&te=1&user_id=a2644345876d86c6fdcc0940c7bb560c">Korean media wave</a>: BTS, Parasite</p><p><a href="https://www.themarysue.com/the-top-archive-of-our-own-ships-say-a-lot-about-fandom/">Fan fiction and diversity/inclusion</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJIBBGLKUA8">Sorry to Bother You</a> (Boots Riley)</p><p>Tenoch Huerta as <a href="https://www.theilluminerdi.com/2021/06/07/black-panther-2-tenoch-namor/">Namor </a>(Black Panther character)</p><p><a href="https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2459454/why-oscar-isaac-wasnt-shocked-by-the-star-wars-fan-backlash">Oscar Isaac</a></p><p><a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2021/09/shang-chi-tony-leung-interview-wenwu-fathers-the-mandarin-stereotypes">Tony Leung</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_user">Lead Users</a> and <a href="https://web.mit.edu/evhippel/www/books/DI/DemocInn.pdf">Democratizing Innovation</a> book by <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N84u7tBQDrs">Eric Von Hipple</a></p><p><a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2020/9/14/interview-with-robert-kozinets-part-one">Robert Kozinets</a></p><p><a href="https://www.lareviewofbooks.org/article/pointing-at-the-wrong-villain-cass-sunstein-and-echo-chambers/">Review of #Republic (and the value of deliberating enclaves)</a> by <a href="https://weinberger.org/">David Weinberger</a></p><p><a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2013/12/from-imaginary-to-virtual-worlds-an-interview-with-historian-michael-sayler-part-two.html">Michael Saler - a public sphere of the imagination</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-79-new-online-public-spaces-talia-stroud-eli-pariser/">Episode #79: Hope for New Online Public Spaces with Talia Stroud and Eli Pariser</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Te Rita Papesch and Sharon Mazer on the Living Tradition of Kapa Haka</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week, we are joined by <a href="http://www.freetheatre.org.nz/te-rita-papesch.html">Te Rita Papesch</a>, a legendary figure in the Maori tradition of Kapa Haka, and <a href="https://academics.aut.ac.nz/sharon.mazer">Sharon Mazer</a>, her friend and an American performance studies researcher. Together, they converse about Kapa Haka as a manifestation of the historic relations between the Maori people and their “Kiwi” colonizers, one which is embedded in the everyday life of the community but also undergoing constant change as performers adjust to the increased global visibility of their performances. Mazer describes the national Kapa Haka gatherings, which attract thousands of attendees and are nationally televised, as “a theatrical event incorporated into an Olympic competition encased in a ritual frame.” Papesch is the consummate insider, the matron of a family of Haka performers, whose influence stretches back to the 1970s, whereas Mazer offers the perspective of an informed outsider who has been observing the performances for more than twenty years. Together, they model bicultural conversation as they teach us how to read Kapa Haka’s place in the cultural politics of New Zealand. </p><p>A full transcript of this conversation will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Co-authored writing by Te Rita Papesch & Sharon Mazer:<br /><a href="http://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Papesch-Mazer-2016-Breaking_the_Stage_From_Te_Matatini_to_F.pdf">Breaking the Stage: From Te Matatini to Footprints/Tapuwae</a><br /><a href="http://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Papesch-Mazer-2015-But_can_it_be_Art_Kapa_Haka_as_a_contemp.pdf">But can it be Art? Kapa Haka as a contemporary indigenous performance practice</a><br /><a href="http://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Mazer-Papesch-2008-Maori_Performance_Cultural_Performance_.pdf">Maori Performance/Cultural Performance: Stages of Powhiri</a></p><p>More about <a href="http://www.freetheatre.org.nz/te-rita-papesch.html">Te Rita Papesch</a><br />Waka Huia profile: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eTVk3BU068">Part One</a>; <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HBvo_ItfuM">Part Two</a><br />Performance: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yde2oWIGa1c">Nga Roimata</a><br /><a href="https://www.otairongo.co.nz/">Ōtairongo</a> (audio portrait of Te Rita by artist Maree Sheehan)<br /><a href="https://www.twoa.ac.nz/hononga-stay-connected/news-events/2018/04/19/te-rita-recognised">Tainui Waka Kapa Haka Festival Lifetime Achievement Award, 2018</a><br />Selected writing:<br /><a href="http://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/TeRitaPapeschPhDThesis-2015.pdf">Creating a Modern Māori Identity Through Kapa Haka</a> (2015 PhD Thesis)<br /><a href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13670050.2013.806431">Te Rita Papesch: case study of an exemplary learner of Māori as an additional language</a></p><p>More about <a href="https://academics.aut.ac.nz/sharon.mazer">Sharon Mazer</a><br />Selected writing:<br /><a href="http://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Mazer-2011-PerformingMaori-PopEntertainment.pdf">Performing Māori: Kapa Haka on the Stage and on the Ground</a><br /><a href="http://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Mazer-2011-Performance_Ethnographer_Tourist_Cannibal.pdf">Performance: Ethnographer/Tourist/Cannibal</a><br /><a href="https://www.upress.state.ms.us/Books/P/Professional-Wrestling">Professional Wrestling: Sport and Spectacle</a></p><p><a href="https://www.newzealand.com/us/feature/kapa-haka-maori-performance/">Kapa Haka</a><br /><a href="https://www.tematatini.co.nz/aotearoa-kapa-haka-limited/">National Kapa Haka Festival</a><br /><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20100524023144/http://www.tematatini.co.nz/festival/documents/2011CompetitionRules.pdf">Rules of Competition</a><br /><a href="https://www.maoritelevision.com">Maori Television</a> – <a href="https://www.maoritelevision.com/haka">Kapa Haka commentary</a>; <a href="https://www.maoritelevision.com/haka/te-matatini/groups/te-kapa-haka-o-te-whanau-a-apanui">Te Kapa Haka o Te Whānau-ā-Apanui</a><br /><a href="https://youtu.be/ds5KIIDpGCI">Te Whare Wananga o Waikato at the NZ Polynesian Festival, 1981</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Qm2kvnfkfw">All-Blacks and Haka</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFqO1y01qjs">Hobbes and Shaw – Haka </a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_5nqba84Jg">Haka tourist shows</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZF0YbdHJI8">Game of Thrones Haka</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfNRdtrL3LM">Beyonce does Haka</a></p><p><a href="https://tisch.nyu.edu/about/directory/performance-studies/3092281">Diana Taylor</a> – <a href="https://www.dukeupress.edu/the-archive-and-the-repertoire">The Archive and the Repertoire </a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konstantin_Stanislavski">Konstantin Stanislovsky</a> – <a href="https://actingmagazine.com/2019/02/10/what-is-the-magic-if/">“As If”</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBMx4jCVRZQ">Haka in support of Black Lives Matter</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C4%81ori_protest_movement">Maori Protest Movements</a></p><p>More Maori culture:<br /><a href="https://www.newzealand.com/int/feature/powhiri-maori-welcome/">Maori Powhiri (welcome)</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C4%81_moko">Ta Moko </a>– Maori tattoo<br /><a href="https://www.newzealand.com/us/maori-weaving/">Raranga </a>– Maori Weaving<br /><a href="https://www.tepapa.govt.nz/discover-collections/read-watch-play/maori/maori-musical-instruments">Maori Musical Instruments</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C4%81ori_religion">Maori Religion</a><br /><a href="https://www.armymuseum.co.nz/maori-weapons/">Maori Weapons</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music & Audio clips:<br /><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds5KIIDpGCI&t=635s__;!!LIr3w8kk_Xxm!9c5C3PN0vQOP42dUMInwfSuKTbtmPokoVO3XO_p0irVbgxqmtjBsBplHwM7u$">Te Whare Wananga o Waikato</a> (1981)<br /><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ns2qopr-7U__;!!LIr3w8kk_Xxm!9c5C3PN0vQOP42dUMInwfSuKTbtmPokoVO3XO_p0irVbgxqmtjBsBtl0C0hw$">Kapahaka Roopu Te Haona Kaha</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZF0YbdHJI8">Te Whānau a Apanui whakaeke- Te Matatini - 2015 - Entrance (Game of Thrones)</a></p><p>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 3 May 2021 12:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Colin Maclay, Henry Jenkins, Te Rita Papesch, Sharon Mazer)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, we are joined by <a href="http://www.freetheatre.org.nz/te-rita-papesch.html">Te Rita Papesch</a>, a legendary figure in the Maori tradition of Kapa Haka, and <a href="https://academics.aut.ac.nz/sharon.mazer">Sharon Mazer</a>, her friend and an American performance studies researcher. Together, they converse about Kapa Haka as a manifestation of the historic relations between the Maori people and their “Kiwi” colonizers, one which is embedded in the everyday life of the community but also undergoing constant change as performers adjust to the increased global visibility of their performances. Mazer describes the national Kapa Haka gatherings, which attract thousands of attendees and are nationally televised, as “a theatrical event incorporated into an Olympic competition encased in a ritual frame.” Papesch is the consummate insider, the matron of a family of Haka performers, whose influence stretches back to the 1970s, whereas Mazer offers the perspective of an informed outsider who has been observing the performances for more than twenty years. Together, they model bicultural conversation as they teach us how to read Kapa Haka’s place in the cultural politics of New Zealand. </p><p>A full transcript of this conversation will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Co-authored writing by Te Rita Papesch & Sharon Mazer:<br /><a href="http://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Papesch-Mazer-2016-Breaking_the_Stage_From_Te_Matatini_to_F.pdf">Breaking the Stage: From Te Matatini to Footprints/Tapuwae</a><br /><a href="http://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Papesch-Mazer-2015-But_can_it_be_Art_Kapa_Haka_as_a_contemp.pdf">But can it be Art? Kapa Haka as a contemporary indigenous performance practice</a><br /><a href="http://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Mazer-Papesch-2008-Maori_Performance_Cultural_Performance_.pdf">Maori Performance/Cultural Performance: Stages of Powhiri</a></p><p>More about <a href="http://www.freetheatre.org.nz/te-rita-papesch.html">Te Rita Papesch</a><br />Waka Huia profile: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eTVk3BU068">Part One</a>; <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HBvo_ItfuM">Part Two</a><br />Performance: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yde2oWIGa1c">Nga Roimata</a><br /><a href="https://www.otairongo.co.nz/">Ōtairongo</a> (audio portrait of Te Rita by artist Maree Sheehan)<br /><a href="https://www.twoa.ac.nz/hononga-stay-connected/news-events/2018/04/19/te-rita-recognised">Tainui Waka Kapa Haka Festival Lifetime Achievement Award, 2018</a><br />Selected writing:<br /><a href="http://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/TeRitaPapeschPhDThesis-2015.pdf">Creating a Modern Māori Identity Through Kapa Haka</a> (2015 PhD Thesis)<br /><a href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13670050.2013.806431">Te Rita Papesch: case study of an exemplary learner of Māori as an additional language</a></p><p>More about <a href="https://academics.aut.ac.nz/sharon.mazer">Sharon Mazer</a><br />Selected writing:<br /><a href="http://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Mazer-2011-PerformingMaori-PopEntertainment.pdf">Performing Māori: Kapa Haka on the Stage and on the Ground</a><br /><a href="http://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Mazer-2011-Performance_Ethnographer_Tourist_Cannibal.pdf">Performance: Ethnographer/Tourist/Cannibal</a><br /><a href="https://www.upress.state.ms.us/Books/P/Professional-Wrestling">Professional Wrestling: Sport and Spectacle</a></p><p><a href="https://www.newzealand.com/us/feature/kapa-haka-maori-performance/">Kapa Haka</a><br /><a href="https://www.tematatini.co.nz/aotearoa-kapa-haka-limited/">National Kapa Haka Festival</a><br /><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20100524023144/http://www.tematatini.co.nz/festival/documents/2011CompetitionRules.pdf">Rules of Competition</a><br /><a href="https://www.maoritelevision.com">Maori Television</a> – <a href="https://www.maoritelevision.com/haka">Kapa Haka commentary</a>; <a href="https://www.maoritelevision.com/haka/te-matatini/groups/te-kapa-haka-o-te-whanau-a-apanui">Te Kapa Haka o Te Whānau-ā-Apanui</a><br /><a href="https://youtu.be/ds5KIIDpGCI">Te Whare Wananga o Waikato at the NZ Polynesian Festival, 1981</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Qm2kvnfkfw">All-Blacks and Haka</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFqO1y01qjs">Hobbes and Shaw – Haka </a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_5nqba84Jg">Haka tourist shows</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZF0YbdHJI8">Game of Thrones Haka</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfNRdtrL3LM">Beyonce does Haka</a></p><p><a href="https://tisch.nyu.edu/about/directory/performance-studies/3092281">Diana Taylor</a> – <a href="https://www.dukeupress.edu/the-archive-and-the-repertoire">The Archive and the Repertoire </a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konstantin_Stanislavski">Konstantin Stanislovsky</a> – <a href="https://actingmagazine.com/2019/02/10/what-is-the-magic-if/">“As If”</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBMx4jCVRZQ">Haka in support of Black Lives Matter</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C4%81ori_protest_movement">Maori Protest Movements</a></p><p>More Maori culture:<br /><a href="https://www.newzealand.com/int/feature/powhiri-maori-welcome/">Maori Powhiri (welcome)</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C4%81_moko">Ta Moko </a>– Maori tattoo<br /><a href="https://www.newzealand.com/us/maori-weaving/">Raranga </a>– Maori Weaving<br /><a href="https://www.tepapa.govt.nz/discover-collections/read-watch-play/maori/maori-musical-instruments">Maori Musical Instruments</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C4%81ori_religion">Maori Religion</a><br /><a href="https://www.armymuseum.co.nz/maori-weapons/">Maori Weapons</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music & Audio clips:<br /><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds5KIIDpGCI&t=635s__;!!LIr3w8kk_Xxm!9c5C3PN0vQOP42dUMInwfSuKTbtmPokoVO3XO_p0irVbgxqmtjBsBplHwM7u$">Te Whare Wananga o Waikato</a> (1981)<br /><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ns2qopr-7U__;!!LIr3w8kk_Xxm!9c5C3PN0vQOP42dUMInwfSuKTbtmPokoVO3XO_p0irVbgxqmtjBsBtl0C0hw$">Kapahaka Roopu Te Haona Kaha</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZF0YbdHJI8">Te Whānau a Apanui whakaeke- Te Matatini - 2015 - Entrance (Game of Thrones)</a></p><p>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You
Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at
howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com.

Music:
“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.
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Spaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats
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      <pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2021 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week we invited <a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm5571987/">Ioana Mischie</a>, a futurist and transmedia artist working with creative writing, film, and virtual reality, and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Blumenthal">Howard Blumenthal</a>, a television and new media creative, to discuss the future of education and the role of children in shaping the field. Mischie’s work includes <a href="https://www.governmentofchildren.com/en/"><i>Government of Children</i></a> and <a href="https://www.marchedufilm.com/projects/tangible-utopias/"><i>Tangible Utopias</i></a>, which both place children as the arbiters of new types of governments and cities, and Blumenthal was heavily influenced by his time on <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where_in_the_World_Is_Carmen_Sandiego%3F_(game_show)"><i>Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?</i></a> to interview children around the world for his series, <a href="https://vimeo.com/kidsonearth"><i>Kids on Earth in the 21st Century.</i></a> The two note general differences amongst different populations of children; areas with greater civic education from an earlier age tend to be more involved in social issues such as immigration reform and class, whereas those without that background might be more distanced. For the most part, though, both Mischie and Blumenthal agree that children are more willing to respect different perspectives and compromise than adults. They’re also full of simple yet potentially innovative ideas; they note concepts such as multi-level traffic systems and cities built for people, animals, and vegetation that have come up in their conversations with students. They argue that the best way to formulate these ideas is through the power of play, a method the current education system suppresses by institutionalizing and protecting teaching, not learning. Together, the two guests posit a better education system that brings together people of different disciples, producing ideas that are imaginative, co-creative, and tangible. It is also important to draw from the most successful elements of all methods of schooling while also incorporating self-education. Most importantly, however, we must give children a stronger platform, which would look like eliminating some rules and providing them rights in school that parallel those of adults. In other words, education must allow children to tell their stories.</p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Some of Mischie’s works:<br /><a href="https://www.governmentofchildren.com/en/"><i>Government of Children</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.marchedufilm.com/projects/tangible-utopias/"><i>Tangible Utopias</i></a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where_in_the_World_Is_Carmen_Sandiego%3F_(game_show)"><i>Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?</i></a>, which Blumenthal developed</p><p><a href="https://omniversity.app/">OMNIVERSITY</a>, a VR university founded by Mischie</p><p>Art Linkletter – <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UgLpRvX7Qk">Kids Say the Darnedest Things</a><br /><a href="https://www.cjr.org/analysis/how_linda_ellerbee_made_nick_news_into_an_award-winning_program.php">Linda Ellerbee </a>– <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4hcMZ0D6uo">Nick News</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcVEhtojXlc">School’s Out by Alice Cooper</a></p><p>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2021 12:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2021 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week's conversation with scientist turned author <a href="https://sbdivya.com/">SB Divya</a> and philosophy student turned conceptual artist <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathon_Keats">Jonathon Keats</a> continues our series on climate futures by beginning with the notion of a thought experiment, and how that is manifested in both Divya’s fiction and Jonathon’s art projects. They discuss the tools each of them uses to invite their audiences to participate with them in optimistic speculation about the future, and how they try to overcome resistance to that journey through entertainment and playfulness. In questioning why we tend to look for definitive answers and discount our own subjective experiences, they lead us to home in on the commonalities between creativity or “the artistic mindset” and the scientific method, which are often presented as opposing each other. And recalling our previous episode with James Paul Gee, if we are able to let go of the assumption of human exceptionalism—for example considering time in terms of the cycle of a river, or the life of a tree—we are able to gain new perspectives on our humanity.</p><p>A Full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://sbdivya.com/">SB Divya</a>’s work:<br /><a href="https://sbdivya.com/machinehood">Machinehood</a><br /><a href="https://sbdivya.com/contingency-plans-for-the-apocalypse-etc">Contingency Plans for the Apocalypse and Other Possible Situations</a><br /><a href="https://sbdivya.com/runtime">Runtime</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathon_Keats">Jonathan Keats</a>’ work:<br /><a href="https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/distributed/T/bo68159149.html">Thought Experiments</a><br /><a href="https://www.reuters.com/article/us-plants-porn/artist-opens-first-plant-porn-theater-idUSN0720247820070907">Pornography for Plants</a><br /><a href="https://io9.gizmodo.com/plant-pornographer-goes-mainstream-with-travel-movie-fo-5462726">Strange Skies</a> - Travel documentaries for plants<br /><a href="https://www.wired.com/2008/10/jonathan-keats/">DIY Universe Kit</a><br /><a href="https://www.good.is/articles/the-century-camera">The Century Camera</a><br /><a href="https://asuartmuseum.asu.edu/content/millennium-camera-jonathon-keats">The Millennium Camera</a><br />Fables: <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/90821/the-book-of-the-unknown-by-jonathon-keats/9780812978971">The Book of the Unknown</a><br />Work with the <a href="https://www.earthlawcenter.org/interspecies-technology-transfer-consortium?rq=Jonathon%20Keats">Earth Law Center</a><br /><a href="https://fluxprojects.org/productions/jonathon-keats/">Flux Exchange</a></p><p><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/70264888">Black Mirror</a> (Netflix)</p><p><a href="https://psychology.fas.harvard.edu/people/stanley-milgram">Stanley Milgram</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesium_standard">Caesium Standard</a> (for the atomic clock)</p><p><a href="https://www.jamespaulgee.com/book"><i>What Is a Human?</i></a><i> By James Paul Gee</i><br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-80-james-paul-gee/">Episode #80: James Paul Gee</a></p><p>Henry’s course: <a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2021/1/19/back-to-school-science-fiction-as-media-theory">Science Fiction as Media Theory</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_Manual_for_Spaceship_Earth">Buckminster Fuller: <i>Operating Manual for Spaceship Earth</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-84-sarena-ulibarri-ed-finn-solarpunk/">Episode 84: Sarena Ulibarri and Ed Finn on Solarpunk</a><br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-83-indigenous-voices-environmental-justice-candis-callison-julian-brave-noisecat/">Episode 83: Indigenous Voices for Environmental Justice with Candis Callison & Julian Brave NoiseCat</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br /><a href="https://youtu.be/_5Hr1C62Smk">Koyaanisqatsi - reverse ( ISTAQSINAAYOK )</a> (from the original by Philip Glass)</p><p>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a></p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2021 11:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week's conversation with scientist turned author <a href="https://sbdivya.com/">SB Divya</a> and philosophy student turned conceptual artist <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathon_Keats">Jonathon Keats</a> continues our series on climate futures by beginning with the notion of a thought experiment, and how that is manifested in both Divya’s fiction and Jonathon’s art projects. They discuss the tools each of them uses to invite their audiences to participate with them in optimistic speculation about the future, and how they try to overcome resistance to that journey through entertainment and playfulness. In questioning why we tend to look for definitive answers and discount our own subjective experiences, they lead us to home in on the commonalities between creativity or “the artistic mindset” and the scientific method, which are often presented as opposing each other. And recalling our previous episode with James Paul Gee, if we are able to let go of the assumption of human exceptionalism—for example considering time in terms of the cycle of a river, or the life of a tree—we are able to gain new perspectives on our humanity.</p><p>A Full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://sbdivya.com/">SB Divya</a>’s work:<br /><a href="https://sbdivya.com/machinehood">Machinehood</a><br /><a href="https://sbdivya.com/contingency-plans-for-the-apocalypse-etc">Contingency Plans for the Apocalypse and Other Possible Situations</a><br /><a href="https://sbdivya.com/runtime">Runtime</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathon_Keats">Jonathan Keats</a>’ work:<br /><a href="https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/distributed/T/bo68159149.html">Thought Experiments</a><br /><a href="https://www.reuters.com/article/us-plants-porn/artist-opens-first-plant-porn-theater-idUSN0720247820070907">Pornography for Plants</a><br /><a href="https://io9.gizmodo.com/plant-pornographer-goes-mainstream-with-travel-movie-fo-5462726">Strange Skies</a> - Travel documentaries for plants<br /><a href="https://www.wired.com/2008/10/jonathan-keats/">DIY Universe Kit</a><br /><a href="https://www.good.is/articles/the-century-camera">The Century Camera</a><br /><a href="https://asuartmuseum.asu.edu/content/millennium-camera-jonathon-keats">The Millennium Camera</a><br />Fables: <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/90821/the-book-of-the-unknown-by-jonathon-keats/9780812978971">The Book of the Unknown</a><br />Work with the <a href="https://www.earthlawcenter.org/interspecies-technology-transfer-consortium?rq=Jonathon%20Keats">Earth Law Center</a><br /><a href="https://fluxprojects.org/productions/jonathon-keats/">Flux Exchange</a></p><p><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/70264888">Black Mirror</a> (Netflix)</p><p><a href="https://psychology.fas.harvard.edu/people/stanley-milgram">Stanley Milgram</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesium_standard">Caesium Standard</a> (for the atomic clock)</p><p><a href="https://www.jamespaulgee.com/book"><i>What Is a Human?</i></a><i> By James Paul Gee</i><br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-80-james-paul-gee/">Episode #80: James Paul Gee</a></p><p>Henry’s course: <a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2021/1/19/back-to-school-science-fiction-as-media-theory">Science Fiction as Media Theory</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_Manual_for_Spaceship_Earth">Buckminster Fuller: <i>Operating Manual for Spaceship Earth</i></a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-84-sarena-ulibarri-ed-finn-solarpunk/">Episode 84: Sarena Ulibarri and Ed Finn on Solarpunk</a><br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-83-indigenous-voices-environmental-justice-candis-callison-julian-brave-noisecat/">Episode 83: Indigenous Voices for Environmental Justice with Candis Callison & Julian Brave NoiseCat</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br /><a href="https://youtu.be/_5Hr1C62Smk">Koyaanisqatsi - reverse ( ISTAQSINAAYOK )</a> (from the original by Philip Glass)</p><p>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a></p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
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      <title>Sarena Ulibarri and Ed Finn on Solarpunk</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week, we’re joined by <a href="http://www.sarenaulibarri.com/">Sarena Ulibarri</a>, Editor-in-Chief of <a href="https://www.worldweaverpress.com/">World Weaver Press</a> and a science fiction writer whose works include <i>Glass and Gardens</i> and <i>Biketopia</i>, and <a href="https://www.edfinn.net/">Ed Finn</a>, the Director of the <a href="https://csi.asu.edu/">Center for Science and Imagination at Arizona State University</a>, to talk about how solarpunk can shape our understanding of climate change, social issues, and the future. They discuss the immense potential of storytelling in defining an achievable vision for a more sustainable world through a version of science fiction that offers a balance of realism and imagination. In fact, this imagination, Ulibarri and Finn argue, is one of our greatest tools; because issues such as climate change and various sociopolitical concepts have many solutions, applied imagination can help us explore the wide variety of potential solutions as an alternative to fatalism or denial. They also touch upon the unique optimism of solarpunk, particularly in how proposing a better future through the lens of fiction has the ability to excite and invigorate readers towards enacting change. They note that people’s innate desire to feel good means that we must create a new language for debating the immense changes coming our way. This kind of optimism might be niche now, but Solarpunk literature and culture models alternatives and recruits people who actively work to achieve them. </p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Some of Ullibarri’s works:<br /><a href="https://www.worldweaverpress.com/store/p147/Glass_and_Gardens%3A_Solarpunk_Summers.html"><i>Glass and Gardens</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Biketopia-Feminist-Bicycle-Science-Fiction/dp/1621062066"><i>Biketopia</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Adventures-Zookeeping-Sam-Knight/dp/1622251989"><i>Adventures in Zookeeping</i></a><br /><br /> </p><p>Organizations, programs, and foundations mentioned:<br /><a href="https://www.worldweaverpress.com/">World Weaver Press</a> (Ulibarri is Editor-in-Chief)<br /><br /> </p><p><a href="https://csi.asu.edu/">Center for Science and Imagination at Arizona State University</a> (Finn is Director) Projects include:<br /><a href="https://futuretense.asu.edu/">Future Tense</a>, a collaboration between ASU, <a href="https://www.newamerica.org/future-tense/">New America</a>, and <a href="https://slate.com/technology/future-tense"><i>Slate</i></a> magazine <br /><a href="https://csi.asu.edu/calendar/events/emerge-luna-city-2175/">Luna City</a><br /><a href="https://csi.asu.edu/books/weight/"><i>The Weight of Light</i></a><br /><a href="https://csi.asu.edu/books/cities-of-light/"><i>Cities of Light</i></a></p><p><a href="http://clarion.ucsd.edu/">The Clarion Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers’ Workshop</a><br /><a href="https://www.chikyu.ac.jp/rihn_e/">Research Institute for Humanity and Nature</a><br /><a href="https://www.nrel.gov/">The National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL)</a></p><p>Media mentioned:<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS-sJQkr0H4">Solarpunk Chobani commercial</a></p><p>Authors mentioned:<br /><a href="https://www.jeffvandermeer.com/">Jeff VanderMeer</a><br /><a href="https://marianwomack.com/">Marian Womack</a>, author of <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/666027/the-swimmers-by-marian-womack/"><i>The Swimmers</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.nealstephenson.com/">Neal Stephenson</a>, author of <a href="https://www.wired.com/2011/10/stephenson-innovation-starvation/">“Innovation Starvation”</a><br /><a href="http://margaretatwood.ca/">Margaret Atwood</a><br /><a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/authors/25839/kim-stanley-robinson/">Kim Stanley Robinson</a>, author of <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/annals-of-inquiry/the-coronavirus-and-our-future">”The Coronavirus and Our Future”</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Williams">Raymond Williams</a><br /><a href="https://www.lunapresspublishing.com/the-luna-family-authors/Francesco-Verso">Francesco Verso</a></p><p>For more on Solarpunk:<br /><a href="https://www.imaginaryworldspodcast.org/episodes/solarpunk-the-future">Imaginary Worlds Podcast: “Solarpunk the Future”</a></p><p>Trajectory of “Punk” artistic movements:<br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punk_rock">Punk Rock</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberpunk">Cyberpunk</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steampunk">Steampunk</a></p><p>Check these past episodes we referenced:<br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-45-radicalized-with-cory-doctorow/">Episode 45: “Radicalized” with Cory Doctorow</a><br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-64-william-o-gardner/">Episode 64: Japanese Science Fiction with William O. Gardner</a><br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-65-bruce-sterling-and-jasmina-tesanovic/">Episode 65: Design Fiction and the Pandemic with Bruce Sterling and Jasmina Tešanović</a><br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-66-the-legacy-of-octavia-e-butler/">Episode 66: The Legacy of Octavia E. Butler with Damian E. Duffy, John Jennings, and Shelley Streeby</a><br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-36-korean-science-fiction-imagining-other-worlds/">Episode 36: Korean Science Fiction: Imagining other worlds</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1EKpJYw2BYahfyE0saD03g">Sieudiver: Solarpunk City</a></p><p><br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
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      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Henry Jenkins, Colin Maclay, Ed Finn, Sarena Ulibarri)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, we’re joined by <a href="http://www.sarenaulibarri.com/">Sarena Ulibarri</a>, Editor-in-Chief of <a href="https://www.worldweaverpress.com/">World Weaver Press</a> and a science fiction writer whose works include <i>Glass and Gardens</i> and <i>Biketopia</i>, and <a href="https://www.edfinn.net/">Ed Finn</a>, the Director of the <a href="https://csi.asu.edu/">Center for Science and Imagination at Arizona State University</a>, to talk about how solarpunk can shape our understanding of climate change, social issues, and the future. They discuss the immense potential of storytelling in defining an achievable vision for a more sustainable world through a version of science fiction that offers a balance of realism and imagination. In fact, this imagination, Ulibarri and Finn argue, is one of our greatest tools; because issues such as climate change and various sociopolitical concepts have many solutions, applied imagination can help us explore the wide variety of potential solutions as an alternative to fatalism or denial. They also touch upon the unique optimism of solarpunk, particularly in how proposing a better future through the lens of fiction has the ability to excite and invigorate readers towards enacting change. They note that people’s innate desire to feel good means that we must create a new language for debating the immense changes coming our way. This kind of optimism might be niche now, but Solarpunk literature and culture models alternatives and recruits people who actively work to achieve them. </p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Some of Ullibarri’s works:<br /><a href="https://www.worldweaverpress.com/store/p147/Glass_and_Gardens%3A_Solarpunk_Summers.html"><i>Glass and Gardens</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Biketopia-Feminist-Bicycle-Science-Fiction/dp/1621062066"><i>Biketopia</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Adventures-Zookeeping-Sam-Knight/dp/1622251989"><i>Adventures in Zookeeping</i></a><br /><br /> </p><p>Organizations, programs, and foundations mentioned:<br /><a href="https://www.worldweaverpress.com/">World Weaver Press</a> (Ulibarri is Editor-in-Chief)<br /><br /> </p><p><a href="https://csi.asu.edu/">Center for Science and Imagination at Arizona State University</a> (Finn is Director) Projects include:<br /><a href="https://futuretense.asu.edu/">Future Tense</a>, a collaboration between ASU, <a href="https://www.newamerica.org/future-tense/">New America</a>, and <a href="https://slate.com/technology/future-tense"><i>Slate</i></a> magazine <br /><a href="https://csi.asu.edu/calendar/events/emerge-luna-city-2175/">Luna City</a><br /><a href="https://csi.asu.edu/books/weight/"><i>The Weight of Light</i></a><br /><a href="https://csi.asu.edu/books/cities-of-light/"><i>Cities of Light</i></a></p><p><a href="http://clarion.ucsd.edu/">The Clarion Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers’ Workshop</a><br /><a href="https://www.chikyu.ac.jp/rihn_e/">Research Institute for Humanity and Nature</a><br /><a href="https://www.nrel.gov/">The National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL)</a></p><p>Media mentioned:<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS-sJQkr0H4">Solarpunk Chobani commercial</a></p><p>Authors mentioned:<br /><a href="https://www.jeffvandermeer.com/">Jeff VanderMeer</a><br /><a href="https://marianwomack.com/">Marian Womack</a>, author of <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/666027/the-swimmers-by-marian-womack/"><i>The Swimmers</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.nealstephenson.com/">Neal Stephenson</a>, author of <a href="https://www.wired.com/2011/10/stephenson-innovation-starvation/">“Innovation Starvation”</a><br /><a href="http://margaretatwood.ca/">Margaret Atwood</a><br /><a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/authors/25839/kim-stanley-robinson/">Kim Stanley Robinson</a>, author of <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/culture/annals-of-inquiry/the-coronavirus-and-our-future">”The Coronavirus and Our Future”</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Williams">Raymond Williams</a><br /><a href="https://www.lunapresspublishing.com/the-luna-family-authors/Francesco-Verso">Francesco Verso</a></p><p>For more on Solarpunk:<br /><a href="https://www.imaginaryworldspodcast.org/episodes/solarpunk-the-future">Imaginary Worlds Podcast: “Solarpunk the Future”</a></p><p>Trajectory of “Punk” artistic movements:<br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punk_rock">Punk Rock</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberpunk">Cyberpunk</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steampunk">Steampunk</a></p><p>Check these past episodes we referenced:<br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-45-radicalized-with-cory-doctorow/">Episode 45: “Radicalized” with Cory Doctorow</a><br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-64-william-o-gardner/">Episode 64: Japanese Science Fiction with William O. Gardner</a><br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-65-bruce-sterling-and-jasmina-tesanovic/">Episode 65: Design Fiction and the Pandemic with Bruce Sterling and Jasmina Tešanović</a><br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-66-the-legacy-of-octavia-e-butler/">Episode 66: The Legacy of Octavia E. Butler with Damian E. Duffy, John Jennings, and Shelley Streeby</a><br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-36-korean-science-fiction-imagining-other-worlds/">Episode 36: Korean Science Fiction: Imagining other worlds</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1EKpJYw2BYahfyE0saD03g">Sieudiver: Solarpunk City</a></p><p><br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2021 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Indigenous Voices for Environmental Justice with Candis Callison &amp; Julian Brave NoiseCat</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://jwam.ubc.ca/profile/candis-callison/">Candis Callison</a>, an environmental journalist and associate professor at the University of British Columbia, and <a href="https://www.julianbravenoisecat.com">Julian Brave Noisecat</a>, a Senior Media Fellow at the <a href="https://ndncollective.org/">NDN Collective</a>, join us today to talk about the role of Indigenous people in achieving environmental justice. They discuss methods that will better accommodate the inclusion of Indigenous voices in the present, particularly in approaching their stories through narratives that already exist such as marriage equality and climate change. There are, however, key differences between Indigenous perspectives on climate change and climate change as it is often presented in scientific and political spheres; Callison and Noisecat raise the concept of Indigenous knowledge to describe the largely historical and relational outlook on climate that Indigenous people have. They suggest that Indigenous people need to be included in the climate conversation but on their own terms, in ways that fully acknowledge and respect the deep history and context with which they live. This, of course, also requires that mainstream media shift their perspective on Indigenous populations, which, as it stands, mostly fits them into a victim-hero mold that fails to connect individual problems to larger Indigenous concerns. As journalists better understand the power they wield in shaping the media and our perceptions of the world, Callison and Noisecat argue that it’s important to bring Indigenous people into the present and future, respecting them not as simply victims or heroes, but as nuanced and human as any other community.</p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://www.cjr.org/special_report/apocalypse-then-and-now.php">Apocalypse Then and Now</a> – Julian Brave Noisecat’s piece in the <i>Columbia Journalism Review</i><br /><a href="https://www.julianbravenoisecat.com/words">More of Julian’s writing</a></p><p>Candis Callison’s books:<br /><a href="https://www.dukeupress.edu/how-climate-change-comes-to-matter"><i>How Climate Change Comes to Matter: The Communal Life of Facts</i></a><br /><a href="https://oxford.universitypressscholarship.com/view/10.1093/oso/9780190067076.001.0001/oso-9780190067076"><i>Reckoning: Journalism's Limits and Possibilities</i></a></p><p>Some of the Indigenous voices invoked in this episode:<br /><a href="http://cowboysmithx.com/">Cowboy Smithx</a><br /><a href="https://www.rightlivelihoodaward.org/laureates/sheila-watt-cloutier/">Sheila Watt-Cloutier</a><br /><a href="http://www.nativescience.org/html/cochran.html">Patricia Cochran</a><br /><a href="https://www.robinwallkimmerer.com/">Robin Wall Kimmerer</a><br /><a href="https://blogs.loc.gov/folklife/2017/11/james-mooney-recordings-ghost-dance-songs/">Ghost Dance of the Lakota Sioux</a><br /><a href="http://www.indigenousresearchconference.ac.nz/">International Indigenous Research Conference</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLQMTU2O_zU">Jenni Monet, Pueblo of Laguna</a><br /><a href="https://www.congress.gov/member/debra-haaland/H001080">Debra A. Haaland</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Dillon">Grace Dillon</a></p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/19/world/canada/canada-indigenous-art.html">Catherine Porter’s article on the Inuit</a><br /><a href="https://najanewsroom.com/2019/11/25/naja-calls-for-second-apology-and-audit-of-new-york-times-story/">NAJA’s calls for an apology of the above</a><br /><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/22/climate/deb-haaland-interior.html">Problematic NYT reporting on Deb Haaland Cabinet nomination</a></p><p>Indigenous organizations and publications:<br /><a href="https://najanewsroom.com/">NAJA – Native American Journalists’ Association</a><br /><a href="https://indiancountrytoday.com/">Indian Country Today</a><br /><a href="https://www.aptn.ca/">APTN (Canada)</a><br /><a href="https://mediaindigena.com/">mediaINDIGENA podcast</a><br /><br /><a href="https://www.thresholdpodcast.org/">Threshold Podcast</a> – not an Indigenous production, but a sustained journalistic engagement with native communities</p><p>Also check out <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-73-increasing-visibility-native-communities-crystal-echo-hawk/">Episode 73: Increasing Visibility is Existential for Native Communities, with Crystal Echo Hawk</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onyk7guvHK8">Stand Up / Stand N Rock #NoDAPL (Official Video)</a></p><p>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2021 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Henry Jenkins, Julian Brave Noisecat, Candis Callison, Colin Maclay)</author>
      <link>https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-83-indigenous-voices-environmental-justice-candis-callison-julian-brave-noisecat/</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://jwam.ubc.ca/profile/candis-callison/">Candis Callison</a>, an environmental journalist and associate professor at the University of British Columbia, and <a href="https://www.julianbravenoisecat.com">Julian Brave Noisecat</a>, a Senior Media Fellow at the <a href="https://ndncollective.org/">NDN Collective</a>, join us today to talk about the role of Indigenous people in achieving environmental justice. They discuss methods that will better accommodate the inclusion of Indigenous voices in the present, particularly in approaching their stories through narratives that already exist such as marriage equality and climate change. There are, however, key differences between Indigenous perspectives on climate change and climate change as it is often presented in scientific and political spheres; Callison and Noisecat raise the concept of Indigenous knowledge to describe the largely historical and relational outlook on climate that Indigenous people have. They suggest that Indigenous people need to be included in the climate conversation but on their own terms, in ways that fully acknowledge and respect the deep history and context with which they live. This, of course, also requires that mainstream media shift their perspective on Indigenous populations, which, as it stands, mostly fits them into a victim-hero mold that fails to connect individual problems to larger Indigenous concerns. As journalists better understand the power they wield in shaping the media and our perceptions of the world, Callison and Noisecat argue that it’s important to bring Indigenous people into the present and future, respecting them not as simply victims or heroes, but as nuanced and human as any other community.</p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://www.cjr.org/special_report/apocalypse-then-and-now.php">Apocalypse Then and Now</a> – Julian Brave Noisecat’s piece in the <i>Columbia Journalism Review</i><br /><a href="https://www.julianbravenoisecat.com/words">More of Julian’s writing</a></p><p>Candis Callison’s books:<br /><a href="https://www.dukeupress.edu/how-climate-change-comes-to-matter"><i>How Climate Change Comes to Matter: The Communal Life of Facts</i></a><br /><a href="https://oxford.universitypressscholarship.com/view/10.1093/oso/9780190067076.001.0001/oso-9780190067076"><i>Reckoning: Journalism's Limits and Possibilities</i></a></p><p>Some of the Indigenous voices invoked in this episode:<br /><a href="http://cowboysmithx.com/">Cowboy Smithx</a><br /><a href="https://www.rightlivelihoodaward.org/laureates/sheila-watt-cloutier/">Sheila Watt-Cloutier</a><br /><a href="http://www.nativescience.org/html/cochran.html">Patricia Cochran</a><br /><a href="https://www.robinwallkimmerer.com/">Robin Wall Kimmerer</a><br /><a href="https://blogs.loc.gov/folklife/2017/11/james-mooney-recordings-ghost-dance-songs/">Ghost Dance of the Lakota Sioux</a><br /><a href="http://www.indigenousresearchconference.ac.nz/">International Indigenous Research Conference</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLQMTU2O_zU">Jenni Monet, Pueblo of Laguna</a><br /><a href="https://www.congress.gov/member/debra-haaland/H001080">Debra A. Haaland</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Dillon">Grace Dillon</a></p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/19/world/canada/canada-indigenous-art.html">Catherine Porter’s article on the Inuit</a><br /><a href="https://najanewsroom.com/2019/11/25/naja-calls-for-second-apology-and-audit-of-new-york-times-story/">NAJA’s calls for an apology of the above</a><br /><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/22/climate/deb-haaland-interior.html">Problematic NYT reporting on Deb Haaland Cabinet nomination</a></p><p>Indigenous organizations and publications:<br /><a href="https://najanewsroom.com/">NAJA – Native American Journalists’ Association</a><br /><a href="https://indiancountrytoday.com/">Indian Country Today</a><br /><a href="https://www.aptn.ca/">APTN (Canada)</a><br /><a href="https://mediaindigena.com/">mediaINDIGENA podcast</a><br /><br /><a href="https://www.thresholdpodcast.org/">Threshold Podcast</a> – not an Indigenous production, but a sustained journalistic engagement with native communities</p><p>Also check out <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-73-increasing-visibility-native-communities-crystal-echo-hawk/">Episode 73: Increasing Visibility is Existential for Native Communities, with Crystal Echo Hawk</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onyk7guvHK8">Stand Up / Stand N Rock #NoDAPL (Official Video)</a></p><p>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You
Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at
howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com.

Music:
“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.
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Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental
Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship
Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q
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      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2021 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://twitter.com/bridgitaevans">Bridgit Antoinette Evans</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/tracyvs">Tracy Van Slyke</a>, co-founders of the <a href="https://popcollab.org/">Pop Culture Collaborative</a>, join us today to talk about the meaning of a pluralistic society, pop culture for social change, and the intersection between the arts and social activism spheres. They delve into the notion of narrative oceans, how they can be used to unify people’s experiences but also drive harmful stereotypes of populations, such as the anti-Islamic rhetoric post-9/11 that informed media depictions and created swirls in the ocean. They posit that it’s our work to not only reform existing narrative oceans but to also craft new ones that are more inclusive. For example, the narrative ocean surrounding Black women’s leadership, whether that’s at home or in politics, inspires more people to engage with the power they always had; by doing so, the U.S. is able to evolve into a stronger, more democratic nation. This is not accomplished by the work of just one Black woman character but a movement to better portray them across all media; thus, intentional storytelling is key to reforming our narrative oceans. Evans and Van Slyke also delve into the creation of the PCC as a space of deep learning and to build a field working at the intersection of pop culture and social justice. They touch on the American desire for belonging and how, structurally, there are factors that already determine who does or does not. While movements such as Black Lives Matter challenge conventional ideas of belonging, it is also important to engage with the idea of pluralism and cultural fluidity: a commitment to actively move out of the familiar to forge bonds with people different from us and to do so from a place of accountability. Ultimately, the questions they aim to answer involve both art and activism: How can artists immerse themselves in social justice analysis in relation to the stories they tell? How do you engage with social justice in an emotional way? Right now, Evans, Van Slyke, and the PCC advise that the answer lies in staying open-minded and inspired for the future!</p><p>A full transcript of this conversation will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Grants and spaces for artists in entertainment:<br /><a href="https://iwillharness.com/">Harness</a><br /><a href="https://www.storylinepartners.com/">Storyline Partners</a><br /><a href="https://yesandlaughterlab.com/">Yes, And Laughter Lab</a><br /><a href="https://popcollab.org/grantmaking/becoming-america/">Becoming America fund</a><br /><a href="https://www.starfishaccelerator.com/">Starfish Accelerator</a></p><p>Research<br /><a href="https://www.writeinclusion.org/">Think Tank for Inclusion and Equity</a></p><p>Mass audience activation and innovation<br /><a href="https://www.domesticworkers.org/">National Domestic Workers Alliance</a><br /><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80240715"><i>Roma</i></a>, which the NDWA was invested in promoting</p><p><a href="https://popcollab.org/learning/wethefans/">White Paper on Fan Activism</a></p><p><a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2006/07/americas_most_powerful_fan_boy.html">24 and the Bush Administration </a><br /><a href="https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/moving-target-is-homeland-still-racist/">Homeland struggles with Muslim Representation</a><br /><a href="https://www.bitchmedia.org/article/ramy-hulu-muslims-onscreen">American Muslim Response to Ramy</a><br /><a href="https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/ms-marvel-muslim-identity-a-changing-hollywood-1234666">Ms. Marvel as Muslim Superhero</a></p><p>Check out these previous episodes with guests who were funded by Pop Culture Collaborative:<br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-73-increasing-visibility-native-communities-crystal-echo-hawk/">Episode 73: Increasing Visibility is Existential for Native Communities, with Crystal Echo Hawk</a><br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-69-fan-activism-janae-phillips-shawn-taylor/">Episode 69: The Power of Fan activism with Janae Phillips and Shawn Taylor</a><br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-28-taking-risks-comedy-as-tool-for-social-justice/">Episode 28: Taking risks: comedy as tool for social justice with Caty Borum Chattoo</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2021 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://twitter.com/bridgitaevans">Bridgit Antoinette Evans</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/tracyvs">Tracy Van Slyke</a>, co-founders of the <a href="https://popcollab.org/">Pop Culture Collaborative</a>, join us today to talk about the meaning of a pluralistic society, pop culture for social change, and the intersection between the arts and social activism spheres. They delve into the notion of narrative oceans, how they can be used to unify people’s experiences but also drive harmful stereotypes of populations, such as the anti-Islamic rhetoric post-9/11 that informed media depictions and created swirls in the ocean. They posit that it’s our work to not only reform existing narrative oceans but to also craft new ones that are more inclusive. For example, the narrative ocean surrounding Black women’s leadership, whether that’s at home or in politics, inspires more people to engage with the power they always had; by doing so, the U.S. is able to evolve into a stronger, more democratic nation. This is not accomplished by the work of just one Black woman character but a movement to better portray them across all media; thus, intentional storytelling is key to reforming our narrative oceans. Evans and Van Slyke also delve into the creation of the PCC as a space of deep learning and to build a field working at the intersection of pop culture and social justice. They touch on the American desire for belonging and how, structurally, there are factors that already determine who does or does not. While movements such as Black Lives Matter challenge conventional ideas of belonging, it is also important to engage with the idea of pluralism and cultural fluidity: a commitment to actively move out of the familiar to forge bonds with people different from us and to do so from a place of accountability. Ultimately, the questions they aim to answer involve both art and activism: How can artists immerse themselves in social justice analysis in relation to the stories they tell? How do you engage with social justice in an emotional way? Right now, Evans, Van Slyke, and the PCC advise that the answer lies in staying open-minded and inspired for the future!</p><p>A full transcript of this conversation will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Grants and spaces for artists in entertainment:<br /><a href="https://iwillharness.com/">Harness</a><br /><a href="https://www.storylinepartners.com/">Storyline Partners</a><br /><a href="https://yesandlaughterlab.com/">Yes, And Laughter Lab</a><br /><a href="https://popcollab.org/grantmaking/becoming-america/">Becoming America fund</a><br /><a href="https://www.starfishaccelerator.com/">Starfish Accelerator</a></p><p>Research<br /><a href="https://www.writeinclusion.org/">Think Tank for Inclusion and Equity</a></p><p>Mass audience activation and innovation<br /><a href="https://www.domesticworkers.org/">National Domestic Workers Alliance</a><br /><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80240715"><i>Roma</i></a>, which the NDWA was invested in promoting</p><p><a href="https://popcollab.org/learning/wethefans/">White Paper on Fan Activism</a></p><p><a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2006/07/americas_most_powerful_fan_boy.html">24 and the Bush Administration </a><br /><a href="https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/moving-target-is-homeland-still-racist/">Homeland struggles with Muslim Representation</a><br /><a href="https://www.bitchmedia.org/article/ramy-hulu-muslims-onscreen">American Muslim Response to Ramy</a><br /><a href="https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/ms-marvel-muslim-identity-a-changing-hollywood-1234666">Ms. Marvel as Muslim Superhero</a></p><p>Check out these previous episodes with guests who were funded by Pop Culture Collaborative:<br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-73-increasing-visibility-native-communities-crystal-echo-hawk/">Episode 73: Increasing Visibility is Existential for Native Communities, with Crystal Echo Hawk</a><br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-69-fan-activism-janae-phillips-shawn-taylor/">Episode 69: The Power of Fan activism with Janae Phillips and Shawn Taylor</a><br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-28-taking-risks-comedy-as-tool-for-social-justice/">Episode 28: Taking risks: comedy as tool for social justice with Caty Borum Chattoo</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You
Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at
howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com.

Music:
“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.
In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet
Spaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats
Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0
Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental
Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship
Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q
––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––
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      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2021 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary>This week&apos;s media recommendations are all about fantasy, a realm that our last guest Warren Hedges is very, very fond of: From the African fantasy of Marlon James&apos; &quot;Black Leopard, Red Wolf&quot; to a Skyrim Mod called &quot;3DNPC.&quot; </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week&apos;s media recommendations are all about fantasy, a realm that our last guest Warren Hedges is very, very fond of: From the African fantasy of Marlon James&apos; &quot;Black Leopard, Red Wolf&quot; to a Skyrim Mod called &quot;3DNPC.&quot; </itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Warren Hedges on the Fantasy Roots of the Capital Insurrection</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week’s guest, Warren Hedges, teaches a course at the <a href="https://sou.edu/academics/undergraduate-studies/faculty/">Southern Oregon University</a> on how speculative genres such as science fiction and fantasy help us imagine more inclusive cultures, societies, and worlds. He shared some thoughts on Facebook about Jacob Chansley, the so-called “Q Shaman” who participated in the January 6 insurrection in the U.S. Capital and the ways his dress and tattoos reflected long-standing nationalist and racist themes in High Fantasy. Across this conversation, Hedges traces out some of the links, including the connection between fantasy and representations of national character, the ways these ideas about race shape modern gaming, what it means for white supremacists to “play Indian,” the Greek and Roman iconography of the U.S. Capital and how it means different things for the North and the South, the way Birth of a Nation and The Clansman built on Sir Walter Scott’s fantasies regarding Scottish history, and the ways contemporary fantasy writers of color are expanding the genre’s relationship to mythology and nostalgia, among other topics. This far-reaching discussion explores the relationship between genre fiction and far-right politics, helping to make sense of some of the images associated with the January 6 insurrection.</p><p>A full transcript of this conversation will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Right Wing Politics and Iconography: <br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_Angeli">Q-Shaman Jacob Chansley </a><br /><a href="https://www.ualberta.ca/folio/2020/07/white-supremacists-are-misappropriating-norse-mythology-says-expert.html">Right wing appropriates Viking culture</a><br /><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/local/charlottesville-videos/">Charlottesville shield</a><br /><a href="https://www.britannica.com/topic/Tea-Party-movement">Tea Party Movement</a><br /><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/article/what-is-qanon.html">QAnon</a><br /><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/made-by-history/wp/2017/07/19/why-the-second-american-revolution-deserves-as-much-attention-as-the-first/">A Second American Revolution</a><br /><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/13/costumes-capitol-far-right-violence-washington-dc">Right Wing cosplayers</a><br /><a href="https://qz.com/1953366/decoding-the-pro-trump-insurrectionist-flags-and-banners/">Flags of the Insurrection</a></p><p>The High Fantasy Tradition<br /><a href="https://theculturetrip.com/europe/iceland/articles/how-icelandic-norse-mythology-influenced-tolkien/">J.R.R. Tolkien </a>-- <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beowulf:_A_Translation_and_Commentary">translation of Beowulf</a><br /><a href="https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Gr%C3%ADma_Wormtongue">Worm Tongue in Lord of the Rings</a><br /><a href="https://penelope.uchicago.edu/~grout/encyclopaedia_romana/britannia/anglo-saxon/beowulf/vitellius.html">ReDiscovery of Beowulf</a><br /><a href="https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/world-history-magazine/article/brothers-grimm-fairy-tales">Brothers Grimm</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Gottfried_Herder">Johann Gottfried von Herder</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_fantasy">High Fantasy</a><br /><a href="https://fantasybookfanatic.com/is-game-of-thrones-high-fantasy/">Game of Thrones</a><br /><a href="https://theconversation.com/was-tolkien-really-racist-108227">Orcs</a>, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqbSQWKV_T8">Klingons</a> as African-American</p><p>Further Reading on Fantasy<br /><a href="https://global.oup.com/academic/product/stories-about-stories-9780199316076?cc=us&lang=en&">Brian Atteberry, Stories About Stories </a><br /><a href="https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/670831?journalCode=jmh">Michael Saler, As If: Modern Enchantment and the Literary Prehistory of Virtual Reality</a><br /><a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2015/08/somewhat-diverse-remarks-to-the-science-fiction-research-association-conference.html">Henry on the need to rethink genre</a></p><p>Games and Gaming<br /><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/local/charlottesville-videos/">Roots of Dungeons and Dragons </a><br /><a href="https://www.ubisoft.com/en-us/game/assassins-creed/valhalla">Assassin's Creed: Valhalla</a><br /><a href="https://elderscrolls.bethesda.net/en/skyrim">Skyrim</a> – Warren’s Videos on <a href="https://youtu.be/bgdBvZW9WVQ">Racial Coding</a> and <a href="https://youtu.be/zuTVGUMb4Z8">Gender Coding</a> in Skyrim<br /><a href="https://strangerthings.fandom.com/wiki/Influences_%26_references">Stranger Things</a></p><p>Rewriting the Fantasy Genre<br /><a href="https://www.npr.org/2019/07/23/741222646/gods-of-jade-and-shadow-spins-a-dark-dazzling-fairy-tale">Sylvia Moreno-Garcia, Gods of Jade and Shadow </a><br /><a href="https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/but-that-is-not-the-story-on-marlon-jamess-black-leopard-red-wolf/">Marlon James, Black Leopard, Red Wolf</a><br /><a href="https://uapress.arizona.edu/book/walking-the-clouds">Grace L. Dillon, Walking the Clouds: An Anthology of Indigenous Science Fiction</a><br /><a href="https://www.akpress.org/octavia-s-brood.html">Adrienne Maree Brown and Walidah Imarisha, Octavia’s Brood: Science Fiction Stories from</a><br /><a href="https://www.akpress.org/octavia-s-brood.html">Social Justice Movements</a><br /><a href="https://bookriot.com/guide-to-grimdark-fantasy/">Grimdark</a><br /><a href="https://time.com/5246675/black-panther-afrofuturism/">Wakanda</a></p><p>Scottish Nationalism and the Klu Klux Klan<br /><a href="https://timeline.com/why-does-the-ku-klux-klan-burn-crosses-they-got-the-idea-from-a-movie-75a70f7ab135">D.W. Griffith, Birth of A Nation and crossburning</a><br /><a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/26240/26240-h/26240-h.htm">Thomas Dixon, The Clansman</a><br /><a href="https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/commentary/martin-luther-king-holiday-capitol-riot-white-supremacy-20210117.html">Martin Luther King on white supremacy</a><br /><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/books/2010/aug/16/walter-scott-edinburgh-book-festival">Sir Walter Scott</a> and nationalism<br /><a href="https://harpers.org/2007/07/how-walter-scott-started-the-american-civil-war/">Mark Twain -- Sir Walter Scott caused Civil War </a></p><p>Native American Imagery<br /><a href="https://www.encyclopedia.com/social-sciences/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/playing-indian">“Playing Indian”</a><br /><a href="https://uapress.arizona.edu/book/walking-the-clouds">Grace L. Dillon, Walking the Clouds: An Anthology of Indigenous Science Fiction</a><br /><a href="https://www.nationalabolitionhalloffameandmuseum.org/lydia-maria-child.html">Lydia Maria Child</a><br /><a href="https://www.bostonteapartyship.com/disguise-of-sons-of-liberty">Boston Tea Party -- Indian imagery</a></p><p>The Iconography of the American Capital<br /><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/18/us/politics/trump-1776-commission-report.html">Trump’s 1776 Commission</a> and <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/08/14/magazine/1619-america-slavery.html">the New York Time’s 1619 series</a><br /><a href="https://www.milrose.com/insights/greek-and-roman-influences-on-washington-d.c.-architecture">Greek and Roman Imagery in Capital</a><br /><a href="https://www.si.edu/newsdesk/factsheets/horatio-greenough-s-george-washington">George Washington as Roman Hero</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antebellum_architecture">Greek Reviva</a>l<br /><a href="https://www.cnn.com/2012/11/06/showbiz/movies/faulkner-midnight-paris-allen-lawsuit">William Faulkner</a> on the past<br /><a href="https://projects.iq.harvard.edu/persephone/greeks-gettysburg-analysis-pericles-epitaphios-logos-model-abraham-lincolns-gettysburg-0">Lincoln and Pericles</a><br /><a href="https://www.nypap.org/preservation-history/city-beautiful-movement/">City Beautiful movement</a><br /><a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-dark-side-of-thomas-jefferson-35976004/">Thomas Jefferson’s changing views on slavery’</a><br /><a href="http://www.columbia.edu/~lmg21/ash3002y/earlyac99/documents/observations.html">Benjamin Franklin discusses the “lovely white”</a><br /><a href="https://www.npr.org/2016/11/19/502687591/hamilton-to-pence-we-are-the-diverse-america-who-are-alarmed">Hamilton and Diverse America</a><br /><a href="https://www.opb.org/news/article/oregon-white-history-racist-foundations-black-exclusion-laws/">Oregon as haven for white people</a></p><p><a href="http://monumenttotransformation.org/atlas-of-transformation/html/n/nostalgia/nostalgia-svetlana-boym.html">Svetlana Boym on Nostalgia</a></p><p>Superhero Mythology<br /><a href="https://bleedingcool.com/comics/jack-kirbys-son-captain-america-is-the-antithesis-of-donald-trump/">Donald Trump as Captain America </a><br /><a href="https://news.artnet.com/art-world/punisher-black-lives-matter-1883013">The Punisher and Blue Lives Matter</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2021 17:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Henry Jenkins, Warren Hedges, Colin Maclay)</author>
      <link>https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-81-warren-hedges-on-the-fantasy-roots-of-the-capital-insurrection/</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week’s guest, Warren Hedges, teaches a course at the <a href="https://sou.edu/academics/undergraduate-studies/faculty/">Southern Oregon University</a> on how speculative genres such as science fiction and fantasy help us imagine more inclusive cultures, societies, and worlds. He shared some thoughts on Facebook about Jacob Chansley, the so-called “Q Shaman” who participated in the January 6 insurrection in the U.S. Capital and the ways his dress and tattoos reflected long-standing nationalist and racist themes in High Fantasy. Across this conversation, Hedges traces out some of the links, including the connection between fantasy and representations of national character, the ways these ideas about race shape modern gaming, what it means for white supremacists to “play Indian,” the Greek and Roman iconography of the U.S. Capital and how it means different things for the North and the South, the way Birth of a Nation and The Clansman built on Sir Walter Scott’s fantasies regarding Scottish history, and the ways contemporary fantasy writers of color are expanding the genre’s relationship to mythology and nostalgia, among other topics. This far-reaching discussion explores the relationship between genre fiction and far-right politics, helping to make sense of some of the images associated with the January 6 insurrection.</p><p>A full transcript of this conversation will be available soon!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Right Wing Politics and Iconography: <br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_Angeli">Q-Shaman Jacob Chansley </a><br /><a href="https://www.ualberta.ca/folio/2020/07/white-supremacists-are-misappropriating-norse-mythology-says-expert.html">Right wing appropriates Viking culture</a><br /><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/local/charlottesville-videos/">Charlottesville shield</a><br /><a href="https://www.britannica.com/topic/Tea-Party-movement">Tea Party Movement</a><br /><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/article/what-is-qanon.html">QAnon</a><br /><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/made-by-history/wp/2017/07/19/why-the-second-american-revolution-deserves-as-much-attention-as-the-first/">A Second American Revolution</a><br /><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/13/costumes-capitol-far-right-violence-washington-dc">Right Wing cosplayers</a><br /><a href="https://qz.com/1953366/decoding-the-pro-trump-insurrectionist-flags-and-banners/">Flags of the Insurrection</a></p><p>The High Fantasy Tradition<br /><a href="https://theculturetrip.com/europe/iceland/articles/how-icelandic-norse-mythology-influenced-tolkien/">J.R.R. Tolkien </a>-- <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beowulf:_A_Translation_and_Commentary">translation of Beowulf</a><br /><a href="https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Gr%C3%ADma_Wormtongue">Worm Tongue in Lord of the Rings</a><br /><a href="https://penelope.uchicago.edu/~grout/encyclopaedia_romana/britannia/anglo-saxon/beowulf/vitellius.html">ReDiscovery of Beowulf</a><br /><a href="https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/world-history-magazine/article/brothers-grimm-fairy-tales">Brothers Grimm</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Gottfried_Herder">Johann Gottfried von Herder</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_fantasy">High Fantasy</a><br /><a href="https://fantasybookfanatic.com/is-game-of-thrones-high-fantasy/">Game of Thrones</a><br /><a href="https://theconversation.com/was-tolkien-really-racist-108227">Orcs</a>, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqbSQWKV_T8">Klingons</a> as African-American</p><p>Further Reading on Fantasy<br /><a href="https://global.oup.com/academic/product/stories-about-stories-9780199316076?cc=us&lang=en&">Brian Atteberry, Stories About Stories </a><br /><a href="https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/670831?journalCode=jmh">Michael Saler, As If: Modern Enchantment and the Literary Prehistory of Virtual Reality</a><br /><a href="http://henryjenkins.org/blog/2015/08/somewhat-diverse-remarks-to-the-science-fiction-research-association-conference.html">Henry on the need to rethink genre</a></p><p>Games and Gaming<br /><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/local/charlottesville-videos/">Roots of Dungeons and Dragons </a><br /><a href="https://www.ubisoft.com/en-us/game/assassins-creed/valhalla">Assassin's Creed: Valhalla</a><br /><a href="https://elderscrolls.bethesda.net/en/skyrim">Skyrim</a> – Warren’s Videos on <a href="https://youtu.be/bgdBvZW9WVQ">Racial Coding</a> and <a href="https://youtu.be/zuTVGUMb4Z8">Gender Coding</a> in Skyrim<br /><a href="https://strangerthings.fandom.com/wiki/Influences_%26_references">Stranger Things</a></p><p>Rewriting the Fantasy Genre<br /><a href="https://www.npr.org/2019/07/23/741222646/gods-of-jade-and-shadow-spins-a-dark-dazzling-fairy-tale">Sylvia Moreno-Garcia, Gods of Jade and Shadow </a><br /><a href="https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/but-that-is-not-the-story-on-marlon-jamess-black-leopard-red-wolf/">Marlon James, Black Leopard, Red Wolf</a><br /><a href="https://uapress.arizona.edu/book/walking-the-clouds">Grace L. Dillon, Walking the Clouds: An Anthology of Indigenous Science Fiction</a><br /><a href="https://www.akpress.org/octavia-s-brood.html">Adrienne Maree Brown and Walidah Imarisha, Octavia’s Brood: Science Fiction Stories from</a><br /><a href="https://www.akpress.org/octavia-s-brood.html">Social Justice Movements</a><br /><a href="https://bookriot.com/guide-to-grimdark-fantasy/">Grimdark</a><br /><a href="https://time.com/5246675/black-panther-afrofuturism/">Wakanda</a></p><p>Scottish Nationalism and the Klu Klux Klan<br /><a href="https://timeline.com/why-does-the-ku-klux-klan-burn-crosses-they-got-the-idea-from-a-movie-75a70f7ab135">D.W. Griffith, Birth of A Nation and crossburning</a><br /><a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/26240/26240-h/26240-h.htm">Thomas Dixon, The Clansman</a><br /><a href="https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/commentary/martin-luther-king-holiday-capitol-riot-white-supremacy-20210117.html">Martin Luther King on white supremacy</a><br /><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/books/2010/aug/16/walter-scott-edinburgh-book-festival">Sir Walter Scott</a> and nationalism<br /><a href="https://harpers.org/2007/07/how-walter-scott-started-the-american-civil-war/">Mark Twain -- Sir Walter Scott caused Civil War </a></p><p>Native American Imagery<br /><a href="https://www.encyclopedia.com/social-sciences/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/playing-indian">“Playing Indian”</a><br /><a href="https://uapress.arizona.edu/book/walking-the-clouds">Grace L. Dillon, Walking the Clouds: An Anthology of Indigenous Science Fiction</a><br /><a href="https://www.nationalabolitionhalloffameandmuseum.org/lydia-maria-child.html">Lydia Maria Child</a><br /><a href="https://www.bostonteapartyship.com/disguise-of-sons-of-liberty">Boston Tea Party -- Indian imagery</a></p><p>The Iconography of the American Capital<br /><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/18/us/politics/trump-1776-commission-report.html">Trump’s 1776 Commission</a> and <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/08/14/magazine/1619-america-slavery.html">the New York Time’s 1619 series</a><br /><a href="https://www.milrose.com/insights/greek-and-roman-influences-on-washington-d.c.-architecture">Greek and Roman Imagery in Capital</a><br /><a href="https://www.si.edu/newsdesk/factsheets/horatio-greenough-s-george-washington">George Washington as Roman Hero</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antebellum_architecture">Greek Reviva</a>l<br /><a href="https://www.cnn.com/2012/11/06/showbiz/movies/faulkner-midnight-paris-allen-lawsuit">William Faulkner</a> on the past<br /><a href="https://projects.iq.harvard.edu/persephone/greeks-gettysburg-analysis-pericles-epitaphios-logos-model-abraham-lincolns-gettysburg-0">Lincoln and Pericles</a><br /><a href="https://www.nypap.org/preservation-history/city-beautiful-movement/">City Beautiful movement</a><br /><a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-dark-side-of-thomas-jefferson-35976004/">Thomas Jefferson’s changing views on slavery’</a><br /><a href="http://www.columbia.edu/~lmg21/ash3002y/earlyac99/documents/observations.html">Benjamin Franklin discusses the “lovely white”</a><br /><a href="https://www.npr.org/2016/11/19/502687591/hamilton-to-pence-we-are-the-diverse-america-who-are-alarmed">Hamilton and Diverse America</a><br /><a href="https://www.opb.org/news/article/oregon-white-history-racist-foundations-black-exclusion-laws/">Oregon as haven for white people</a></p><p><a href="http://monumenttotransformation.org/atlas-of-transformation/html/n/nostalgia/nostalgia-svetlana-boym.html">Svetlana Boym on Nostalgia</a></p><p>Superhero Mythology<br /><a href="https://bleedingcool.com/comics/jack-kirbys-son-captain-america-is-the-antithesis-of-donald-trump/">Donald Trump as Captain America </a><br /><a href="https://news.artnet.com/art-world/punisher-black-lives-matter-1883013">The Punisher and Blue Lives Matter</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! 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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[This week, a pleasantly unexpected list of media recommendations comes from guests of our latest episode, Talia Stroud and Eli Pariser of Civic Signals, an organization dedicated to reimagine digital environments to be better public spaces, much like how humanity has strived to build healthy, flourishing civic spaces in the real world for millennia!  ––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––

Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You
Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at
howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com.

Music:
“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week we’re joined by <a href="https://twitter.com/taliastroud?lang=en">Talia Stroud</a>, Director of the <a href="http://mediaengagement.org/">Center for Media Engagement</a> at The University of Texas at Austin, and <a href="https://twitter.com/elipariser">Eli Pariser</a>, formerly of <a href="https://www.upworthy.com/">Upworthy</a> and <a href="https://front.moveon.org/">MoveOn</a> and author of <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/309214/the-filter-bubble-by-eli-pariser/">The Filter Bubble</a>, to talk about their latest project, <a href="https://newpublic.org/">Civic Signals/New Public</a>. After several rounds of conversation on “what’s wrong with social media and how can we fix it?” Talia and Eli started Civic Signals to try to fill the gap between necessary critiques of our current online spaces and creating digital environments that we want to inhabit. By looking across disciplines and off-line equivalents to our online spaces, they are working to create a community to collectively build an evolving design framework for online public spaces. Eli and Talia take us through their approach, methods, and findings so far – and how they’ve doubled down on this work in the pandemic. Finally, we go on a deep dive of the first of the four essential “building blocks” they’ve found that make digital spaces work for people across multiple lived experiences: <i>Welcome</i>.</p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available on the <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-79-new-online-public-spaces-talia-stroud-eli-pariser/" target="_blank">episode page</a> soon.</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://giphy.com/gifs/39wBF8ZtAwIXvDnI23/html5">Wile. E. 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      <pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2021 14:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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By looking across disciplines and off-line equivalents to our online spaces, they are working to create a community to collectively build an evolving design framework for online public spaces. Eli and Talia take us through their approach, methods, and findings so far – and how they’ve doubled down on this work in the pandemic. Finally, we go on a deep dive of the first of the four essential “building blocks” they’ve found that make digital spaces work for people across multiple lived experiences: <i>Welcome</i>.</p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available on the <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-79-new-online-public-spaces-talia-stroud-eli-pariser/" target="_blank">episode page</a> soon.</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://giphy.com/gifs/39wBF8ZtAwIXvDnI23/html5">Wile. E. 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      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2021 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week we welcome <a href="http://www.parmesh.net/about/">Parmesh Shahani</a>, founder of the <a href="https://indiaculturelab.org">Godrej India Culture Lab</a> and author of <a href="https://www.amazon.in/Gay-Bombay-Globalization-longing-Contemporary/dp/9353884209/"><i>Gay Bombay: Globalization, Love and (Be)longing in Contemporary India</i></a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.in/Queeristan-LGBTQ-Inclusion-Indian-Workplace/dp/9389648149/"><i>Queeristan: LGBTQ Inclusion in the Indian Workplace</i>.</a>  While Parmesh was eating his blueberry cake and drinking coffee to start his day, the sun was setting in Los Angeles. Across this conversation, we explore his journey to the United States and how his time at MIT changed his world view; the legal and political struggles over LGBTQ rights in India over the past decade or so; the work he has done with the India Culture Lab and through work within corporations; the tolerance of diverse gender and sexual identities in classical Indian mythology; the role of popular Indian media as a catalyst for change; his status as a fashion icon; and his excitement over the changes that are taking place across his country as small town India embraces queer sexuality. All of these and many other themes are addressed in his recent book as he seeks to “queer” what business books look like and the kinds of arguments they advance. His closing speech about the queer future of India is not to be missed!</p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available SOON on the <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-78-exploring-queeristan-with-parmesh-shahani/">episode page</a>.</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://www.npr.org/2020/01/06/793906627/students-in-india-protest-after-university-attacked-by-masked-assailants">Indian student protests early 2020</a></p><p><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-52672764">Coronavirus lockdown: The Indian migrants dying to get home</a></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.in/Gay-Bombay-Globalization-longing-Contemporary/dp/9353884209/"><i>Gay Bombay: Globalization, Love and (Be)longing in Contemporary India</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.amazon.in/Queeristan-LGBTQ-Inclusion-Indian-Workplace/dp/9389648149/"><i>Queeristan: LGBTQ Inclusion in the Indian Workplace</i></a></p><p><i>Mentioned in Queeristan:</i><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Bourdieu">Pierre Bourdieu</a><br /><a href="https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/foucault/">Michel Foucault</a><br /><a href="https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/derrida/">Jacques Derrida</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shah_Rukh_Khan">Shah Rukh Khan</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toblerone">Toblerone chocolate</a></p><p><a href="https://cmsw.mit.edu">MIT Comparative Media Studies Program (CMS)</a><br />Program Administrator <a href="https://news.mit.edu/2005/pomiecko-obit">Chris Pomiecko</a><br />Parmesh’s <a href="https://news.mit.edu/2004/between-lines-explores-south-asian-lgbt-identity">Between the Lines film series</a><br /><a href="https://lbgtq.mit.edu/home">MIT Rainbow Lounge</a><br /><a href="http://www.convergenceculture.org">Convergence Culture Consortium</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc7AZNWvs0M"><i>Swades</i></a> (Shah Rukh Khan film that inspired Parmesh to return to India)</p><p><a href="https://qz.com/india/1379620/section-377-a-timeline-of-indias-battle-for-gay-rights/">India’s LGBTQ+ Legal History</a><br /><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/jul/02/homosexuality-decriminalised-delhi-india">2009 Delhi High Court</a><br /><a href="https://www.hrw.org/news/2013/12/12/india-supreme-court-ruling-undermines-lgbt-rights">2013 Supreme Court Verdict</a><br /><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-27031180">2014 Verdict for transgender rights</a><br /><a href="https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/08/indias-supreme-court-upholds-right-privacy-fundamental-right-and-its-about-time">2017 Right to Privacy</a><br /><a href="https://www.hrw.org/news/2018/01/24/lgbt-rights-2018-will-be-year-courts#">2018 Special Bench - LGBTQ decriminalization</a><br /><a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2019/12/04/784398783/india-just-passed-a-trans-rights-bill-why-are-trans-activists-protesting-it">2019 Transgender Act</a></p><p><a href="https://indiaculturelab.org">Godrej India Culture Lab</a><br /><a href="https://indiaculturelab.org/videos/library/special-events/masterclass-with-henry-jenkins/">Henry Jenkins Master Class at the Culture Lab</a></p><p>Parmesh’s Godrej recruitment – <a href="https://www.educationworld.in/six-students-win-season-7-of-godrej-loud-2018/">Godrej Live Out Ur Dream (LOUD)</a><br /><a href="https://www.americanrhetoric.com/MovieSpeeches/moviespeechmilkfreedomdayparade.html">Harvey Milk inspiration</a></p><p><a href="https://medium.com/lessons-from-history/what-sex-was-like-in-ancient-india-ec6081cbab77">History of sexuality in India</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devdutt_Pattanaik">Devdutt Pattanaik</a> – <a href="https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/distributed/S/bo20580678.html"><i>Shikhandi: And Other Tales They Don't Tell You</i>.</a><br /><a href="https://www.palgrave.com/gp/book/9780312293246"><i>Same Sex Love in India</i></a></p><p><a href="https://theconversation.com/the-gift-of-civilisation-how-imperial-britons-saw-their-mission-in-india-80302">Thomas Babington Macaulay </a><br /><a href="https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/07/13/modi-india-hindutva-hindu-nationalism-autocracy/">Narendra Modi – Hindu Nationalism</a></p><p>Popular media narratives of Indian parents accepting their queer children:<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpUDiHJjgZg">Gazal Dhaliwal</a>; her story on <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aamir_Khan">Aamir Khan</a>’s TV show <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIUQJN1B0aQ">Satyamev Jayate</a><br />More about the story of Kusuma that Parmesh spoke about can be found in his book, <a href="https://www.amazon.in/Queeristan-LGBTQ-Inclusion-Indian-Workplace/dp/9389648149/"><i>Queeristan</i></a>, on pp 122-123.</p><p>Films:<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYNpmI_MHXc"><i>Dostana</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6r8UYU7Zcs"><i>Shubh Mangal Zyada Saavdham</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKcamCgBvMo"><i>Ek Ladki Ko Dekha Toh Aisa Laga</i></a> (starring Sonam Kapoor and Anil Kapoor)</p><p><a href="https://www.worldbank.org/content/dam/Worldbank/document/SAR/economic-costs-homophobia-lgbt-exlusion-india.pdf">Lee Badget – World Bank Report – cost to business of homophobia</a></p><p><a href="https://fs.blog/2014/07/the-panopticon-effect/">Michel Foucault – Panoptikon</a></p><p><a href="https://www.gqindia.com/magazine-story/parmesh-sahani-leading-charge-alternative-culture-movement-brewing/">GQ – Parmesh as Fashion Icon – Neon Green</a><br /><a href="https://www.gqindia.com/magazine-story/gq-100-best-dressed/">2018</a><br /><a href="https://www.gqindia.com/best-dressed/content/we-picked-the-100-best-dressed-people-in-india-right-now">2019</a><br />It’s not the cover, but… <a href="https://www.vogue.in/culture-and-living/content/exclusive-excerpt-queeristan-parmesh-shahani-talks-to-sonam-kapoor-ahuja-about-labels-lgbtq-inclusion-and-plurality">story in Vogue India</a></p><p>Current Scholarship – Queer stories through the lens of joy:<br /><a href="https://www.brandeis.edu/facultyguide/person.html?emplid=27d42d5650b9204f0b4ffc544b3608a10aa5b0de">Brian Horton</a> (Brandeis, forthcoming book, <i>Shimmers of the Fabulous</i>)<br /><a href="https://humanities.ucsc.edu/academics/faculty/index.php?uid=aarondek">Anjali Arondekar</a> (UC Santa Cruz)</p><p>What’s exciting Parmesh in India right now…<br />Small town youth-run events:<br /><a href="https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/events/raipur/raipur-marches-with-pride/articleshow/71396818.cms">Raipur Pride</a><br /><a href="https://www.thequint.com/voices/lgbt/awadh-lucknow-queer-literature-festival">Awadh Queer Literature Festival - Lucknow</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XUKIA">XUKIA Collective - Assam</a><br /><a href="https://www.facebook.com/manipur.youthnetwork/">Ya_All - Manipur</a><br /><a href="https://www.queerlitfest.com/">Queer LitFest - Chennai</a></p><p>Projects:<br /><a href="https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/place-our-own-dairy-farm-run-trans-women-tns-thoothukudi-133262">Grace Banu</a> - cooperative dairy for trans people<br /><a href="https://www.tanqeed.org/2016/10/queering-dalit-tq-salon/">Dalit Queer Project</a><br /><a href="https://thelogicalindian.com/exclusive/rafiul-alom-rahman-beijing-taskforce/">Queer Muslim Project</a></p><p>Books:<br /><a href="https://bookshop.org/books/a-life-in-trans-activism/9789384757755"><i>A Life in Trans Activism</i></a> by A. Revathi<br /><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/33232118-mohanaswamy"><i>Mohanaswamy</i> by Vasudhendra</a><br /><a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/loving-women-being-lesbian-in-unprivileged-india">Maya Sharma - <i>Loving Women: Being Lesbian in Unprivileged India</i></a></p><p>Government:<br /><a href="https://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/kochi/2020/mar/06/transgender-staff-of-kochi-metro-struggle-to-keep-life-on-track-2112888.html">Hiring trans people to run metro stations</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIJgc9A43QE">"Love is Love"</a> by Petter Wallenberg & Rainbow Riots, featuring Sushant Divgikar</p><p>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2021 11:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Colin Maclay, Parmesh Shahani, Henry Jenkins)</author>
      <link>https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-78-exploring-queeristan-with-parmesh-shahani/</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week we welcome <a href="http://www.parmesh.net/about/">Parmesh Shahani</a>, founder of the <a href="https://indiaculturelab.org">Godrej India Culture Lab</a> and author of <a href="https://www.amazon.in/Gay-Bombay-Globalization-longing-Contemporary/dp/9353884209/"><i>Gay Bombay: Globalization, Love and (Be)longing in Contemporary India</i></a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.in/Queeristan-LGBTQ-Inclusion-Indian-Workplace/dp/9389648149/"><i>Queeristan: LGBTQ Inclusion in the Indian Workplace</i>.</a>  While Parmesh was eating his blueberry cake and drinking coffee to start his day, the sun was setting in Los Angeles. Across this conversation, we explore his journey to the United States and how his time at MIT changed his world view; the legal and political struggles over LGBTQ rights in India over the past decade or so; the work he has done with the India Culture Lab and through work within corporations; the tolerance of diverse gender and sexual identities in classical Indian mythology; the role of popular Indian media as a catalyst for change; his status as a fashion icon; and his excitement over the changes that are taking place across his country as small town India embraces queer sexuality. All of these and many other themes are addressed in his recent book as he seeks to “queer” what business books look like and the kinds of arguments they advance. His closing speech about the queer future of India is not to be missed!</p><p>A full transcript of this episode will be available SOON on the <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-78-exploring-queeristan-with-parmesh-shahani/">episode page</a>.</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://www.npr.org/2020/01/06/793906627/students-in-india-protest-after-university-attacked-by-masked-assailants">Indian student protests early 2020</a></p><p><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-52672764">Coronavirus lockdown: The Indian migrants dying to get home</a></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.in/Gay-Bombay-Globalization-longing-Contemporary/dp/9353884209/"><i>Gay Bombay: Globalization, Love and (Be)longing in Contemporary India</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.amazon.in/Queeristan-LGBTQ-Inclusion-Indian-Workplace/dp/9389648149/"><i>Queeristan: LGBTQ Inclusion in the Indian Workplace</i></a></p><p><i>Mentioned in Queeristan:</i><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Bourdieu">Pierre Bourdieu</a><br /><a href="https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/foucault/">Michel Foucault</a><br /><a href="https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/derrida/">Jacques Derrida</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shah_Rukh_Khan">Shah Rukh Khan</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toblerone">Toblerone chocolate</a></p><p><a href="https://cmsw.mit.edu">MIT Comparative Media Studies Program (CMS)</a><br />Program Administrator <a href="https://news.mit.edu/2005/pomiecko-obit">Chris Pomiecko</a><br />Parmesh’s <a href="https://news.mit.edu/2004/between-lines-explores-south-asian-lgbt-identity">Between the Lines film series</a><br /><a href="https://lbgtq.mit.edu/home">MIT Rainbow Lounge</a><br /><a href="http://www.convergenceculture.org">Convergence Culture Consortium</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc7AZNWvs0M"><i>Swades</i></a> (Shah Rukh Khan film that inspired Parmesh to return to India)</p><p><a href="https://qz.com/india/1379620/section-377-a-timeline-of-indias-battle-for-gay-rights/">India’s LGBTQ+ Legal History</a><br /><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/jul/02/homosexuality-decriminalised-delhi-india">2009 Delhi High Court</a><br /><a href="https://www.hrw.org/news/2013/12/12/india-supreme-court-ruling-undermines-lgbt-rights">2013 Supreme Court Verdict</a><br /><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-27031180">2014 Verdict for transgender rights</a><br /><a href="https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/08/indias-supreme-court-upholds-right-privacy-fundamental-right-and-its-about-time">2017 Right to Privacy</a><br /><a href="https://www.hrw.org/news/2018/01/24/lgbt-rights-2018-will-be-year-courts#">2018 Special Bench - LGBTQ decriminalization</a><br /><a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2019/12/04/784398783/india-just-passed-a-trans-rights-bill-why-are-trans-activists-protesting-it">2019 Transgender Act</a></p><p><a href="https://indiaculturelab.org">Godrej India Culture Lab</a><br /><a href="https://indiaculturelab.org/videos/library/special-events/masterclass-with-henry-jenkins/">Henry Jenkins Master Class at the Culture Lab</a></p><p>Parmesh’s Godrej recruitment – <a href="https://www.educationworld.in/six-students-win-season-7-of-godrej-loud-2018/">Godrej Live Out Ur Dream (LOUD)</a><br /><a href="https://www.americanrhetoric.com/MovieSpeeches/moviespeechmilkfreedomdayparade.html">Harvey Milk inspiration</a></p><p><a href="https://medium.com/lessons-from-history/what-sex-was-like-in-ancient-india-ec6081cbab77">History of sexuality in India</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devdutt_Pattanaik">Devdutt Pattanaik</a> – <a href="https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/distributed/S/bo20580678.html"><i>Shikhandi: And Other Tales They Don't Tell You</i>.</a><br /><a href="https://www.palgrave.com/gp/book/9780312293246"><i>Same Sex Love in India</i></a></p><p><a href="https://theconversation.com/the-gift-of-civilisation-how-imperial-britons-saw-their-mission-in-india-80302">Thomas Babington Macaulay </a><br /><a href="https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/07/13/modi-india-hindutva-hindu-nationalism-autocracy/">Narendra Modi – Hindu Nationalism</a></p><p>Popular media narratives of Indian parents accepting their queer children:<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpUDiHJjgZg">Gazal Dhaliwal</a>; her story on <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aamir_Khan">Aamir Khan</a>’s TV show <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIUQJN1B0aQ">Satyamev Jayate</a><br />More about the story of Kusuma that Parmesh spoke about can be found in his book, <a href="https://www.amazon.in/Queeristan-LGBTQ-Inclusion-Indian-Workplace/dp/9389648149/"><i>Queeristan</i></a>, on pp 122-123.</p><p>Films:<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYNpmI_MHXc"><i>Dostana</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6r8UYU7Zcs"><i>Shubh Mangal Zyada Saavdham</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKcamCgBvMo"><i>Ek Ladki Ko Dekha Toh Aisa Laga</i></a> (starring Sonam Kapoor and Anil Kapoor)</p><p><a href="https://www.worldbank.org/content/dam/Worldbank/document/SAR/economic-costs-homophobia-lgbt-exlusion-india.pdf">Lee Badget – World Bank Report – cost to business of homophobia</a></p><p><a href="https://fs.blog/2014/07/the-panopticon-effect/">Michel Foucault – Panoptikon</a></p><p><a href="https://www.gqindia.com/magazine-story/parmesh-sahani-leading-charge-alternative-culture-movement-brewing/">GQ – Parmesh as Fashion Icon – Neon Green</a><br /><a href="https://www.gqindia.com/magazine-story/gq-100-best-dressed/">2018</a><br /><a href="https://www.gqindia.com/best-dressed/content/we-picked-the-100-best-dressed-people-in-india-right-now">2019</a><br />It’s not the cover, but… <a href="https://www.vogue.in/culture-and-living/content/exclusive-excerpt-queeristan-parmesh-shahani-talks-to-sonam-kapoor-ahuja-about-labels-lgbtq-inclusion-and-plurality">story in Vogue India</a></p><p>Current Scholarship – Queer stories through the lens of joy:<br /><a href="https://www.brandeis.edu/facultyguide/person.html?emplid=27d42d5650b9204f0b4ffc544b3608a10aa5b0de">Brian Horton</a> (Brandeis, forthcoming book, <i>Shimmers of the Fabulous</i>)<br /><a href="https://humanities.ucsc.edu/academics/faculty/index.php?uid=aarondek">Anjali Arondekar</a> (UC Santa Cruz)</p><p>What’s exciting Parmesh in India right now…<br />Small town youth-run events:<br /><a href="https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/events/raipur/raipur-marches-with-pride/articleshow/71396818.cms">Raipur Pride</a><br /><a href="https://www.thequint.com/voices/lgbt/awadh-lucknow-queer-literature-festival">Awadh Queer Literature Festival - Lucknow</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XUKIA">XUKIA Collective - Assam</a><br /><a href="https://www.facebook.com/manipur.youthnetwork/">Ya_All - Manipur</a><br /><a href="https://www.queerlitfest.com/">Queer LitFest - Chennai</a></p><p>Projects:<br /><a href="https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/place-our-own-dairy-farm-run-trans-women-tns-thoothukudi-133262">Grace Banu</a> - cooperative dairy for trans people<br /><a href="https://www.tanqeed.org/2016/10/queering-dalit-tq-salon/">Dalit Queer Project</a><br /><a href="https://thelogicalindian.com/exclusive/rafiul-alom-rahman-beijing-taskforce/">Queer Muslim Project</a></p><p>Books:<br /><a href="https://bookshop.org/books/a-life-in-trans-activism/9789384757755"><i>A Life in Trans Activism</i></a> by A. Revathi<br /><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/33232118-mohanaswamy"><i>Mohanaswamy</i> by Vasudhendra</a><br /><a href="https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/loving-women-being-lesbian-in-unprivileged-india">Maya Sharma - <i>Loving Women: Being Lesbian in Unprivileged India</i></a></p><p>Government:<br /><a href="https://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/kochi/2020/mar/06/transgender-staff-of-kochi-metro-struggle-to-keep-life-on-track-2112888.html">Hiring trans people to run metro stations</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIJgc9A43QE">"Love is Love"</a> by Petter Wallenberg & Rainbow Riots, featuring Sushant Divgikar</p><p>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
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Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You
Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at
howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com.

Music:
“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.
In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet
Spaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats
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Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You
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Music:
“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.
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Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You
Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at
howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com.

Music:
“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.
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Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You
Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at
howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com.

Music:
“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.
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Spaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats
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Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You
Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at
howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com.

Music:
“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.
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Spaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats
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Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You
Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at
howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com.

Music:
“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.
In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet
Spaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats
Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0
Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental
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Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q
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Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You
Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at
howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com.

Music:
“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.
In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet
Spaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats
Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0
Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental
Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship
Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q
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      <pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2020 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You
Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at
howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com.

Music:
“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.
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Spaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats
Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0
Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental
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Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You
Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at
howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com.

Music:
“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.
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Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental
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      <pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2020 02:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You
Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at
howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com.

Music:
“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.
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      <pubDate>Tue, 8 Dec 2020 02:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>From Hip Hop to TikTok with Dexter Thomas</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week we welcome Japanese Hip Hop scholar and reporter for <a href="https://www.vice.com/en/section/news">Vice News</a>, <a href="https://www.whatupdex.com/">Dexter Thomas</a>, and we talk a little bit about Vice News but mostly about Dexter’s outsider approach to journalism and the freedom he feels as a Black reporter at Vice in not being obligated to maintain the myth of a neutral perspective. Dexter shares his path to Vice, from college DJ to PhD in Asian Studies at Columbia University, freelance writer to the LA Times. We dive into hip hop music and culture in Japan, from its right-wing nationalist strains to its complicated relationship to Blackness, American imperialism and Black politics. That brings us to the hypersegmented world of TikTok, how today’s internet can be seen as isolating and reducing common language but also allows for new community and voice...and as powerful a space for activism as the streets. Ultimately, we come to a place of hope in our current moment, seeing the opportunity to acknowledge things that have been broken in America for a long time, and making it clearer that nothing will move forward without work.</p><p>As a closing thought, we point you to the bonus minisodes we’ll be releasing while we’re on semester break – <a href="https://how-do-you-like-it-so-far.simplecast.com/episodes">“What’s Making Us Sappy”</a> – where we share recent guests’ media recommendations to broaden your winter watch/read/play/listen list.</p><p>Visit the <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-77-hip-hop-tiktok-dexter-thomas/">episode page</a> for the full transcript of this conversation!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Some Japanese cultural references mentioned in this episode:<br />Tokyo destinations: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takadanobaba">Takadanobaba</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akihabara">Akihabara</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoyogi_Park">Yoyogi Park</a><br /><a href="https://gyaru-109.fandom.com/wiki/Kogal">Kogyaru fashion</a> (including deep tanning)<br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanjing_Massacre">Nanking Massacre</a></p><p>Books mentioned in this episode:<br /><a href="https://www.dukeupress.edu/hip-hop-japan">Hip-Hop Japan</a> by Ian Condry<br /><a href="https://www.dukeupress.edu/the-soul-of-anime">The Soul of Anime</a> by Ian Condry<br /><a href="https://www.dukeupress.edu/blue-nippon">Blue Nippon</a> by Taylor Atkins<br /><a href="https://nyupress.org/9780814742976/race-for-citizenship/">Race for Citizenship</a> by Helen Heran Jun</p><p>Music featured in this episode:<br /><a href="http://hwm5.gyao.ne.jp/distort/gauze.html">Gauze</a> (Japanese Hard Punk)<br /><a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/24sHo6ENRMq9n6t2qtQDu7?si=QjOyZLxORrqxEn_O0KHNSw">Zeebra, Street Dreams</a> (Japanese Hip Hop)<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTfa-9aCTYg&t=47s">SUNDAY SCHOOL, Lucien Hughes</a> (Vaporwave)<br /><a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/38LUbz74v3nmP8x0efElw2?si=HhZhp_W9S-28Fi53dVJwGA">Last Summer Whisper, Anri</a> (City Pop)</p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/28/style/tiktok-teen-politics-gen-z.html">Activism on TikTok</a></p><p>Some background on <a href="https://www.wired.com/story/4chan-soul-of-the-internet/">4Chan</a></p><p><a href="https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2020/11/portland-police-report-6283-uses-of-force-during-protests-in-2020-yet-consultant-found-significant-gaps-in-force-reports.html">2020 protests in Portland</a></p><p>Dexter’s <a href="https://www.vice.com/en/contributor/dexter-thomas"><i>Vice</i> reporting</a></p><p>Listen to our <a href="https://how-do-you-like-it-so-far.simplecast.com/episodes">“What’s Making Us Sappy” minisodes</a> - make sure you subscribe to get the latest!</p><p>NPR’s <a href="https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510282/pop-culture-happy-hour">Pop Culture Happy Hour</a></p><p>Henry’s recommendations:<br /><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Utopia-Season-1/dp/B08CZZTKWP">Utopia</a> (2020, Amazon, based on an earlier <a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.68b5daac-4a28-0c8b-cdd2-01ac84e544f2?ref_=imdbref_tt_wbr_pvs_piv&tag=imdbtag_tt_wbr_pvs_piv-20">British show</a>)<br /><a href="https://www.sho.com/the-good-lord-bird">The Good Lord Bird</a> (Showtime)</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2020 11:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week we welcome Japanese Hip Hop scholar and reporter for <a href="https://www.vice.com/en/section/news">Vice News</a>, <a href="https://www.whatupdex.com/">Dexter Thomas</a>, and we talk a little bit about Vice News but mostly about Dexter’s outsider approach to journalism and the freedom he feels as a Black reporter at Vice in not being obligated to maintain the myth of a neutral perspective. Dexter shares his path to Vice, from college DJ to PhD in Asian Studies at Columbia University, freelance writer to the LA Times. We dive into hip hop music and culture in Japan, from its right-wing nationalist strains to its complicated relationship to Blackness, American imperialism and Black politics. That brings us to the hypersegmented world of TikTok, how today’s internet can be seen as isolating and reducing common language but also allows for new community and voice...and as powerful a space for activism as the streets. Ultimately, we come to a place of hope in our current moment, seeing the opportunity to acknowledge things that have been broken in America for a long time, and making it clearer that nothing will move forward without work.</p><p>As a closing thought, we point you to the bonus minisodes we’ll be releasing while we’re on semester break – <a href="https://how-do-you-like-it-so-far.simplecast.com/episodes">“What’s Making Us Sappy”</a> – where we share recent guests’ media recommendations to broaden your winter watch/read/play/listen list.</p><p>Visit the <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-77-hip-hop-tiktok-dexter-thomas/">episode page</a> for the full transcript of this conversation!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Some Japanese cultural references mentioned in this episode:<br />Tokyo destinations: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takadanobaba">Takadanobaba</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akihabara">Akihabara</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoyogi_Park">Yoyogi Park</a><br /><a href="https://gyaru-109.fandom.com/wiki/Kogal">Kogyaru fashion</a> (including deep tanning)<br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanjing_Massacre">Nanking Massacre</a></p><p>Books mentioned in this episode:<br /><a href="https://www.dukeupress.edu/hip-hop-japan">Hip-Hop Japan</a> by Ian Condry<br /><a href="https://www.dukeupress.edu/the-soul-of-anime">The Soul of Anime</a> by Ian Condry<br /><a href="https://www.dukeupress.edu/blue-nippon">Blue Nippon</a> by Taylor Atkins<br /><a href="https://nyupress.org/9780814742976/race-for-citizenship/">Race for Citizenship</a> by Helen Heran Jun</p><p>Music featured in this episode:<br /><a href="http://hwm5.gyao.ne.jp/distort/gauze.html">Gauze</a> (Japanese Hard Punk)<br /><a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/24sHo6ENRMq9n6t2qtQDu7?si=QjOyZLxORrqxEn_O0KHNSw">Zeebra, Street Dreams</a> (Japanese Hip Hop)<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTfa-9aCTYg&t=47s">SUNDAY SCHOOL, Lucien Hughes</a> (Vaporwave)<br /><a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/38LUbz74v3nmP8x0efElw2?si=HhZhp_W9S-28Fi53dVJwGA">Last Summer Whisper, Anri</a> (City Pop)</p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/28/style/tiktok-teen-politics-gen-z.html">Activism on TikTok</a></p><p>Some background on <a href="https://www.wired.com/story/4chan-soul-of-the-internet/">4Chan</a></p><p><a href="https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2020/11/portland-police-report-6283-uses-of-force-during-protests-in-2020-yet-consultant-found-significant-gaps-in-force-reports.html">2020 protests in Portland</a></p><p>Dexter’s <a href="https://www.vice.com/en/contributor/dexter-thomas"><i>Vice</i> reporting</a></p><p>Listen to our <a href="https://how-do-you-like-it-so-far.simplecast.com/episodes">“What’s Making Us Sappy” minisodes</a> - make sure you subscribe to get the latest!</p><p>NPR’s <a href="https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510282/pop-culture-happy-hour">Pop Culture Happy Hour</a></p><p>Henry’s recommendations:<br /><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Utopia-Season-1/dp/B08CZZTKWP">Utopia</a> (2020, Amazon, based on an earlier <a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.68b5daac-4a28-0c8b-cdd2-01ac84e544f2?ref_=imdbref_tt_wbr_pvs_piv&tag=imdbtag_tt_wbr_pvs_piv-20">British show</a>)<br /><a href="https://www.sho.com/the-good-lord-bird">The Good Lord Bird</a> (Showtime)</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week we’re joined by two USC colleagues, <a href="https://pullias.usc.edu/zoe/">Zoë Corwin</a> of the Pullias Center for Higher Education and Annenberg’s <a href="http://www.neftalie.com/">Neftalie Williams</a>, who share some of what they’ve found studying <a href="https://pullias.usc.edu/skate/">skateboarding culture and its impact on youth</a>. Spoiler alert: the impact is overwhelmingly positive! From literally creating safer spaces for Black youth to fostering wide-ranging skills like problem-solving, media creation and diplomacy, to the integral roles of skateshops and skateparks in their communities, Zoë and Neftalie talk us through their study, why it matters, and how it links to other theories and disciplines. Along the way, we learn a bit about skating culture in LA and abroad and how that’s been impacted by the COVID pandemic, and discuss the tension that exists between skating and university spaces (USC specifically), and how that could be viewed differently as a way to invite neighborhood youth into privileged academic communities. </p><p>Visit the <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-76-skateboarding-subculture-surprises-zoe-corwin-neftalie-williams/">episode page</a> for the full transcript of this conversation!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://csulauniversitytimes.com/el-monte-set-to-build-its-first-skate-and-dog-parks/">Gibson Mariposa Skatepark</a> in El Monte<br /><a href="https://www.spohnranch.com/portfolio/gibson-mariposa-skatepark/">Photo Tour</a><br /><a href="https://youtu.be/_br-AQ8GRuQ">Video Skate-through</a></p><p>USC Pullias Center <a href="https://pullias.usc.edu/skate/">Skateboarding Study</a><br /><a href="https://skatepark.org/">Tony Hawk Foundation</a> (now called The Skatepark Project)<br /><a href="https://spacrs.wordpress.com/what-is-critical-race-theory/">What is a Critical Race Theory framework?</a><br /><a href="https://news.usc.edu/trojan-family/neftalie-williams-skateboarding-usc-professor/">Diplomacy through Skateboarding</a></p><p><a href="http://www.cityofskate.org/">City of Skate – Minneapolis</a><br /><a href="https://www.instagram.com/enchantment.skate.shop/?hl=en">Enchantment Skate Shop – Gallup, NM</a><br /><a href="https://www.thegarageboardshops.com/">The Garage Board Shop – East LA</a></p><p><a href="https://political-science.uchicago.edu/directory/cathy-cohen">Scholar Cathy J. Cohen</a></p><p><a href="https://www.cbssports.com/general/news/skateboarders-remove-sand-from-iconic-venice-beach-skate-park-despite-stay-at-home-orders/">Sand in LA’s Venice Beach Skatepark</a><br /><a href="https://www.latimes.com/socal/daily-pilot/news/story/2020-09-30/skate-park-protest-pivots-to-celebration-after-costa-mesa-announces-park-playgrounds-can-reopen">LA-area skateparks reopening</a><br /><a href="https://youtu.be/Nd2nS_bHPxw">Skateboarding the USC Ledges</a> (video)</p><p><a href="https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/20/21526164/aoc-among-us-twitch-debut-top-concurrent-viewers">AOC's Twitch stream</a></p><p>University of Colorado-Boulder <a href="https://phet.colorado.edu/en/simulation/legacy/energy-skate-park">Energy Skate Park simulation</a> teaches Physics<br /><a href="https://www.dwell.com/article/bryggeriets-gymnasium-skateboard-high-school-malmo-sweden-793a3d93">Skateboarding high school</a> in skate-friendly <a href="https://www.thelocal.se/20181002/skate-malm-how-the-swedish-city-has-harnessed">Malmö, Sweden</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILmuqWCe2Yc">Learning to Skateboard in a Warzone (if You’re a Girl)</a> – <a href="https://skateistan.org/">Skateistan</a></p><p><a href="http://www.skateism.com/">Skateism magazine</a><br /><a href="https://www.instagram.com/samarriabrevard/?hl=en">Samarria Brevard</a><br /><a href="https://www.skatetothepolls.com/">Skate to the Polls</a> movement</p><p>Henry’s Comic Shops:<br /><a href="https://www.themillionyearpicnic.com">Million Year Picnic – Cambridge, MA</a><br /><a href="http://www.comicsfactory.com/">Comics Factory – Pasadena, CA</a></p><p>James Paul Gee – <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affinity_space">Affinity Spaces</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/vanjones68/status/1323763291982766081">Van Jones on the Politics of Joy</a></p><p>Forsyth County, GA:<br /><a href="https://www.11alive.com/article/news/investigations/the-reveal/forsyth-county-lynching-memorial-to-go-up/85-e9e16326-36d5-4c3b-abfd-e76f9b0a793a">Racial cleansing of 1912</a><br /><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/15/books/review-blood-at-the-root-a-tale-of-racial-cleansing-close-to-home.html">Blood at the Root: A Racial Cleansing in America</a><br /><a href="https://apnews.com/article/6974ae74eb05e21c0784dd922442e57d">March for Racial Tolerance 1987</a><br /><a href="https://apnews.com/article/ba34b1912707682f6bcd4a88251c29a8">Oprah Winfrey show in Forsyth County</a></p><p>  </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WErjPmFulQ0">Video</a></p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week we’re joined by two USC colleagues, <a href="https://pullias.usc.edu/zoe/">Zoë Corwin</a> of the Pullias Center for Higher Education and Annenberg’s <a href="http://www.neftalie.com/">Neftalie Williams</a>, who share some of what they’ve found studying <a href="https://pullias.usc.edu/skate/">skateboarding culture and its impact on youth</a>. Spoiler alert: the impact is overwhelmingly positive! From literally creating safer spaces for Black youth to fostering wide-ranging skills like problem-solving, media creation and diplomacy, to the integral roles of skateshops and skateparks in their communities, Zoë and Neftalie talk us through their study, why it matters, and how it links to other theories and disciplines. Along the way, we learn a bit about skating culture in LA and abroad and how that’s been impacted by the COVID pandemic, and discuss the tension that exists between skating and university spaces (USC specifically), and how that could be viewed differently as a way to invite neighborhood youth into privileged academic communities. </p><p>Visit the <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-76-skateboarding-subculture-surprises-zoe-corwin-neftalie-williams/">episode page</a> for the full transcript of this conversation!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p><a href="https://csulauniversitytimes.com/el-monte-set-to-build-its-first-skate-and-dog-parks/">Gibson Mariposa Skatepark</a> in El Monte<br /><a href="https://www.spohnranch.com/portfolio/gibson-mariposa-skatepark/">Photo Tour</a><br /><a href="https://youtu.be/_br-AQ8GRuQ">Video Skate-through</a></p><p>USC Pullias Center <a href="https://pullias.usc.edu/skate/">Skateboarding Study</a><br /><a href="https://skatepark.org/">Tony Hawk Foundation</a> (now called The Skatepark Project)<br /><a href="https://spacrs.wordpress.com/what-is-critical-race-theory/">What is a Critical Race Theory framework?</a><br /><a href="https://news.usc.edu/trojan-family/neftalie-williams-skateboarding-usc-professor/">Diplomacy through Skateboarding</a></p><p><a href="http://www.cityofskate.org/">City of Skate – Minneapolis</a><br /><a href="https://www.instagram.com/enchantment.skate.shop/?hl=en">Enchantment Skate Shop – Gallup, NM</a><br /><a href="https://www.thegarageboardshops.com/">The Garage Board Shop – East LA</a></p><p><a href="https://political-science.uchicago.edu/directory/cathy-cohen">Scholar Cathy J. Cohen</a></p><p><a href="https://www.cbssports.com/general/news/skateboarders-remove-sand-from-iconic-venice-beach-skate-park-despite-stay-at-home-orders/">Sand in LA’s Venice Beach Skatepark</a><br /><a href="https://www.latimes.com/socal/daily-pilot/news/story/2020-09-30/skate-park-protest-pivots-to-celebration-after-costa-mesa-announces-park-playgrounds-can-reopen">LA-area skateparks reopening</a><br /><a href="https://youtu.be/Nd2nS_bHPxw">Skateboarding the USC Ledges</a> (video)</p><p><a href="https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/20/21526164/aoc-among-us-twitch-debut-top-concurrent-viewers">AOC's Twitch stream</a></p><p>University of Colorado-Boulder <a href="https://phet.colorado.edu/en/simulation/legacy/energy-skate-park">Energy Skate Park simulation</a> teaches Physics<br /><a href="https://www.dwell.com/article/bryggeriets-gymnasium-skateboard-high-school-malmo-sweden-793a3d93">Skateboarding high school</a> in skate-friendly <a href="https://www.thelocal.se/20181002/skate-malm-how-the-swedish-city-has-harnessed">Malmö, Sweden</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILmuqWCe2Yc">Learning to Skateboard in a Warzone (if You’re a Girl)</a> – <a href="https://skateistan.org/">Skateistan</a></p><p><a href="http://www.skateism.com/">Skateism magazine</a><br /><a href="https://www.instagram.com/samarriabrevard/?hl=en">Samarria Brevard</a><br /><a href="https://www.skatetothepolls.com/">Skate to the Polls</a> movement</p><p>Henry’s Comic Shops:<br /><a href="https://www.themillionyearpicnic.com">Million Year Picnic – Cambridge, MA</a><br /><a href="http://www.comicsfactory.com/">Comics Factory – Pasadena, CA</a></p><p>James Paul Gee – <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affinity_space">Affinity Spaces</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/vanjones68/status/1323763291982766081">Van Jones on the Politics of Joy</a></p><p>Forsyth County, GA:<br /><a href="https://www.11alive.com/article/news/investigations/the-reveal/forsyth-county-lynching-memorial-to-go-up/85-e9e16326-36d5-4c3b-abfd-e76f9b0a793a">Racial cleansing of 1912</a><br /><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/15/books/review-blood-at-the-root-a-tale-of-racial-cleansing-close-to-home.html">Blood at the Root: A Racial Cleansing in America</a><br /><a href="https://apnews.com/article/6974ae74eb05e21c0784dd922442e57d">March for Racial Tolerance 1987</a><br /><a href="https://apnews.com/article/ba34b1912707682f6bcd4a88251c29a8">Oprah Winfrey show in Forsyth County</a></p><p>  </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WErjPmFulQ0">Video</a></p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2020 02:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You
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      <pubDate>Mon, 9 Nov 2020 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Most of us probably aren’t making an effort to hang out in public spaces lately, much less seeing them as playful – quite the opposite! But with a hopeful eye to the future, this week we’re joined by artist Reanne Estrada, Creative Director of <a href="https://publicmattersgroup.com/">Public Matters</a>, a Los Angeles-based creative studio for civic engagement, and <a href="https://benjaminstokes.net">Benjamin Stokes</a>, Assistant Professor at <a href="https://www.american.edu/soc/faculty/bstokes.cfm">American University</a> and Director of <a href="https://playfulcity.net/go/">The Playful City Lab</a>, to discuss the potential for – and benefits of – play in our public spaces. Reanne and Benjamin share thoughts on how we can use what we’ve experienced during this pandemic to reclaim and define new priorities for our shared public spaces. They consider ways we can expand equity in terms of access to public space and to opportunities for play in everyday life. They each identify ways communities can build the collective sense of power needed to make changes. We think about the affordances of play as a tactic for driving civic engagement, and acknowledge the ways play is already baked into our communities and the ways it has the potential to drive equity, even as it is not always available equitably.</p><p>Visit the <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-75-play-participation-reanne-estrada-benjamin-stokes/">episode page</a> for the full transcript of this conversation!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Writer, Pulitzer Prize and the National Humanities Medal winner <a href="https://www.isabelwilkerson.com/">Isabel Wilkerson</a></p><p>Washington, DC:<br /><a href="https://statehood.dc.gov/page/why-statehood-dc">Push for statehood</a></p><p><a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/06/05/870833518/black-lives-matter-plaza-across-from-white-house-is-christened-by-d-c-leaders">Black Lives Matter Plaza</a> (and tensions between DC Mayor Muriel Bowser and President Trump)<br /><a href="https://www.artnews.com/art-news/news/washington-dc-public-monuments-diversity-bills-1202676101/">Push to Diversify Public Monuments</a><br /><a href="https://anacostia.si.edu/Exhibitions/Details/A-Right-to-the-City-6222">A Right to the City</a> DC exhibition highlighting the successes of civic activism<br />Some of the history of DC’s <a href="https://theundefeated.com/features/the-history-of-black-baseball-in-d-c-includes-frederick-douglass-sons-josh-gibson-and-the-fight-for-equality/">segregated baseball leagues</a></p><p>Some of Benjamin’s earlier research on <a href="http://benjaminstokes.net/doc/Dhebar,Stokes(2008)--nonprofit-manager-guide-online-volunteering.pdf">online volunteering</a></p><p><a href="https://publicmattersgroup.com/">Public Matters</a> projects in LA:<br /><a href="http://publicmattersgroup.com/projects/universityparkslowjams/">University Park Slow Jams</a> - traffic safety & mobility justice<br /><a href="http://publicmattersgroup.com/projects/marketmakeoverseastlaboyleheights/">Market Makeovers</a> - fruits & veggies parade costumes, east LA veggie zombies<br /><a href="https://publicmattersgroup.com/category/hidden-hifi/">The Chicharrón Chronicles</a> - Historic Filipinotown walking tours focusing on food, language and labor, with <a href="https://www.gustavoarellano.org/">Gustavo Arellano</a></p><p>Community-based games for civic engagement:<br /><a href="http://www.gamesforchange.org/blog/2011/04/29/introducing-commons-winner-of-the-real-world-game-for-change-challenge-2011/">Commons</a> - NYC - winner, Real-World Game for Change Challenge 2011<br /><a href="https://www.niemanlab.org/2012/05/a-social-game-in-georgia-tries-to-bring-residents-together-across-traditional-boundaries/">Macon Money</a> - Macon, GA<br /><a href="https://www.hel.fi/helsinki/en/administration/participate/channels/participation-model/participation-game/">The Participation Game</a> - Helsinki, Finland</p><p>Photo: <a href="http://100photos.time.com/photos/kiss-v-j-day-times-square-alfred-eisenstaedt">V-J Day in Times Square</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_Cities_Program">Model Cities program</a> in the US - role play for city officials - builds empathy for cause and effect systems</p><p>Eric Gordon - <a href="https://global.oup.com/academic/product/meaningful-inefficiencies-9780190870133?cc=us&lang=en&">Meaningful Inefficiencies</a></p><p>Henry was referring to the tiles featuring kids’ artwork at <a href="https://davissquaretilesproject.com/davis-square-tiles">Davis Square MBTA station</a></p><p>Reading up on <a href="https://uncpress.org/book/9780807842867/american-historical-pageantry/">historical town pageants</a></p><p><a href="https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/20/21526164/aoc-among-us-twitch-debut-top-concurrent-viewers">AOC's GOTV Twitch stream</a></p><p>For more thoughts on rituals, check out our <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-72-religion-sports-popular-culture-varun-soni/">episode with USC Dean of Religious Life Varun Soni</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 5 Nov 2020 11:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of us probably aren’t making an effort to hang out in public spaces lately, much less seeing them as playful – quite the opposite! But with a hopeful eye to the future, this week we’re joined by artist Reanne Estrada, Creative Director of <a href="https://publicmattersgroup.com/">Public Matters</a>, a Los Angeles-based creative studio for civic engagement, and <a href="https://benjaminstokes.net">Benjamin Stokes</a>, Assistant Professor at <a href="https://www.american.edu/soc/faculty/bstokes.cfm">American University</a> and Director of <a href="https://playfulcity.net/go/">The Playful City Lab</a>, to discuss the potential for – and benefits of – play in our public spaces. Reanne and Benjamin share thoughts on how we can use what we’ve experienced during this pandemic to reclaim and define new priorities for our shared public spaces. They consider ways we can expand equity in terms of access to public space and to opportunities for play in everyday life. They each identify ways communities can build the collective sense of power needed to make changes. We think about the affordances of play as a tactic for driving civic engagement, and acknowledge the ways play is already baked into our communities and the ways it has the potential to drive equity, even as it is not always available equitably.</p><p>Visit the <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-75-play-participation-reanne-estrada-benjamin-stokes/">episode page</a> for the full transcript of this conversation!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>Writer, Pulitzer Prize and the National Humanities Medal winner <a href="https://www.isabelwilkerson.com/">Isabel Wilkerson</a></p><p>Washington, DC:<br /><a href="https://statehood.dc.gov/page/why-statehood-dc">Push for statehood</a></p><p><a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/06/05/870833518/black-lives-matter-plaza-across-from-white-house-is-christened-by-d-c-leaders">Black Lives Matter Plaza</a> (and tensions between DC Mayor Muriel Bowser and President Trump)<br /><a href="https://www.artnews.com/art-news/news/washington-dc-public-monuments-diversity-bills-1202676101/">Push to Diversify Public Monuments</a><br /><a href="https://anacostia.si.edu/Exhibitions/Details/A-Right-to-the-City-6222">A Right to the City</a> DC exhibition highlighting the successes of civic activism<br />Some of the history of DC’s <a href="https://theundefeated.com/features/the-history-of-black-baseball-in-d-c-includes-frederick-douglass-sons-josh-gibson-and-the-fight-for-equality/">segregated baseball leagues</a></p><p>Some of Benjamin’s earlier research on <a href="http://benjaminstokes.net/doc/Dhebar,Stokes(2008)--nonprofit-manager-guide-online-volunteering.pdf">online volunteering</a></p><p><a href="https://publicmattersgroup.com/">Public Matters</a> projects in LA:<br /><a href="http://publicmattersgroup.com/projects/universityparkslowjams/">University Park Slow Jams</a> - traffic safety & mobility justice<br /><a href="http://publicmattersgroup.com/projects/marketmakeoverseastlaboyleheights/">Market Makeovers</a> - fruits & veggies parade costumes, east LA veggie zombies<br /><a href="https://publicmattersgroup.com/category/hidden-hifi/">The Chicharrón Chronicles</a> - Historic Filipinotown walking tours focusing on food, language and labor, with <a href="https://www.gustavoarellano.org/">Gustavo Arellano</a></p><p>Community-based games for civic engagement:<br /><a href="http://www.gamesforchange.org/blog/2011/04/29/introducing-commons-winner-of-the-real-world-game-for-change-challenge-2011/">Commons</a> - NYC - winner, Real-World Game for Change Challenge 2011<br /><a href="https://www.niemanlab.org/2012/05/a-social-game-in-georgia-tries-to-bring-residents-together-across-traditional-boundaries/">Macon Money</a> - Macon, GA<br /><a href="https://www.hel.fi/helsinki/en/administration/participate/channels/participation-model/participation-game/">The Participation Game</a> - Helsinki, Finland</p><p>Photo: <a href="http://100photos.time.com/photos/kiss-v-j-day-times-square-alfred-eisenstaedt">V-J Day in Times Square</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_Cities_Program">Model Cities program</a> in the US - role play for city officials - builds empathy for cause and effect systems</p><p>Eric Gordon - <a href="https://global.oup.com/academic/product/meaningful-inefficiencies-9780190870133?cc=us&lang=en&">Meaningful Inefficiencies</a></p><p>Henry was referring to the tiles featuring kids’ artwork at <a href="https://davissquaretilesproject.com/davis-square-tiles">Davis Square MBTA station</a></p><p>Reading up on <a href="https://uncpress.org/book/9780807842867/american-historical-pageantry/">historical town pageants</a></p><p><a href="https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/20/21526164/aoc-among-us-twitch-debut-top-concurrent-viewers">AOC's GOTV Twitch stream</a></p><p>For more thoughts on rituals, check out our <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-72-religion-sports-popular-culture-varun-soni/">episode with USC Dean of Religious Life Varun Soni</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Settle in for an extra-spooky Halloween episode! We’re joined by Michael Monello, one of the creators of<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blair_Witch_Project"> <i>The Blair Witch Project</i></a>, Co-founder and Creative Director of <a href="https://www.campfirenyc.com/">Campfire Media</a> and co-producer of the <a href="http://videopalace.shudder.com/"><i>Video Palace</i> podcast </a>for <a href="https://www.shudder.com">Shudder</a>, and Qiana Whitted, a professor English and African American Studies at the University of South Carolina and author of <a href="https://www.rutgersuniversitypress.org/ec-comics/9780813566313"><i>EC Comics: Race, Shock and Social Protest</i></a>, which won the 2020 Eisner Award for best academic/scholarly work. Together, they discuss horror in film, radio/podcast, comics, novels, television, and every-day life, helping to map the genre for our listeners. They start with reflections on their own early exposure to the genre. Whitted discusses the way EC comics introduced racism as a form of horror across their suspense and shock oriented titles and she situates these stories within the political debates that followed from Frederic Wertham’s attacks on horror and crime comics and the ways these paved the way for the comics code. Monello traces the ways <i>Video Palace</i> took inspiration from radio horror series in the ways it uses sound to draw the listener in with a mixture of fascination and dread. Along the way, they reflect on how horror has been a site for social transgression and artistic experimentation, and consider the ways international horror films can break the formulas and take us out of a familiar space. And they end with speculations about what forms of horror will allow us to rethink our society in the wake of COVID-19 and Black Lives Matter.</p><p>Full Transcript will be available soon on our website at <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-74-horror-social-change-and-experimentation-with-michael-monello-and-qiana-whitted/" target="_blank">https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-74-horror-social-change-and-experimentation-with-michael-monello-and-qiana-whitted/</a></p><p>Here’s your horror watch/read/listen list from this episode (you may want to leave the lights on!):</p><p>Horror in Cinema<br /><a href="https://youtu.be/XBEVwaJEgaA"><i>Gremlins</i></a><br /><a href="https://youtu.be/HysJUwWWAEI"><i>Ghoulies</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCVh4lBfW-c"><i>Nightmare on Elm Street</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Dc07nSb5p4">Universal Monsters</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Vnghdsjmd0"><i>Midsommar</i></a><br /><a href="https://youtu.be/4V6FtC9XB98"><i>The Blair Witch Project</i></a><br /><a href="https://ir.vanderbilt.edu/bitstream/handle/1803/8437/Jessica%20Hamrick%20-%20Social%20Horror%20and%20Social%20Media.pdf?sequence=2&isAllowed=y">Media Horror</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sC_5SsMI8A">George Romero</a><br /><a href="https://youtu.be/owdnnaNs2RI"><i>Creepshow</i></a><br />UPA – <a href="http://www.openculture.com/2017/06/watch-a-surreal-1953-animation-of-edgar-allan-poes-tell-tale-heart-voted-the-24th-best-cartoon-of-all-time.html">“The Tell Tale Heart"</a> (animated)<br /><a href="https://www.movementsinfilm.com/german-expressionism">German Expressionism</a> – <a href="https://www.zimbio.com/Beyond+the+Box+Office/articles/6Kg_xkdaSne/How+German+Expressionism+Shaped+Horror+Movies">from Germany to American horror film</a><br /><a href="https://www2.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/news-bfi/features/100-years-cabinet-dr-caligari"><i>Cabinet of Doctor Caligari</i></a><br />David Lynch – <a href="https://ascmag.com/articles/flashback-blue-velvet"><i>Blue Velvet</i></a><br /><a href="https://youtu.be/Y_EviQj5tvA"><i>Dawn of the Dead</i></a> (<a href="https://youtu.be/M5iUUq8GUWA">extended Mall Hours version</a>)<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-Ll0bMpd8s">Tod Browning</a> – <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Dm9fRaB-4"><i>Freaks</i></a><br /><a href="https://film160horrorfilm.wordpress.com/2016/07/11/repression-in-robin-woods-introduction-to-the-american-horror-film/">Robin Woods</a><br /><a href="https://youtu.be/EBQHp2__AVQ"><i>Audition</i></a> (Japan)<br /><a href="https://youtu.be/Svhmi1wTs-A"><i>Terrified</i></a> (Argentina)<br /><a href="https://bookriot.com/anatomy-of-a-scene-the-many-endings-of-carrie/"><i>Carrie</i></a> (multiple snap endings)<br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Waters">John Waters</a> (outsider culture)<br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Peele">Jordan Peele </a>– <a href="https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/2/24/14698632/get-out-review-jordan-peele"><i>Get Out</i></a> (<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUMGzioWST4">alternate ending</a>)<i> ; </i><a href="https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/9/18257721/us-review-jordan-peele-get-out-lupita-nyongo-winston-duke-elisabeth-moss-tim-heidecker-horror"><i>Us</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNlKbqHqGcY"><i>Host</i></a><br />Producer <a href="https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/6620-this-pretty-world-the-films-of-val-lewton">Val Lewton</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR7cc5t7tv8"><i>A Quiet Place</i></a><br />Documentary: <a href="https://www.shudder.com/movies/watch/horror-noire-a-history-of-black-horror/e650978256281a67"><i>Horror Noire: A History of Black Horror</i></a></p><p>Horror in Comics<br /><a href="https://www.rutgersuniversitypress.org/ec-comics/9780813566313"><i>EC Comics: Race, Shock and Social Protest</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.dccomics.com/characters/swamp-thing">Swamp Thing</a><br /><a href="https://eccomics.fandom.com/wiki/Tales_from_the_Crypt">Tales from the Crypt</a><br /><a href="https://www.eccomics.com/history">EC comics</a> – <a href="https://www.thecomicbooks.com/gaines.html">William Gaines</a>,  <a href="http://www.tcj.com/the-al-feldstein-interview/">Al Feldstein</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Vault_of_Horror_(comics)">Vault of Terror</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Haunt_of_Fear">Haunt of Fear</a><br /><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2008/03/31/the-horror">Frederic Wertham and Moral Panic around Horror and Crime Comics</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comics_Code_Authority">Comics Code</a><br /><a href="http://ethunter1.blogspot.com/2013/11/sunday-funnies-ec-shocks-whipping.html">“The Whipping”</a><br />EC Comics illustrator <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeVs4CBiY3Q">Wally Wood</a><br /><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2002/07/22/ballbuster">Bernie Krigstein</a> – <a href="https://from-dusk-till-drawn.com/2016/05/02/master-race-by-bernie-krigstein-usa-1955/">“Master Race”</a> ; <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact_(EC_Comics)">Impact</a><br />EC <i>Shock Suspense Stories</i> – <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/26198565">“The Patriot”</a> ; <a href="https://eccomics.fandom.com/wiki/Shock_SuspenStories_Vol_1_14?file=Shock%20SuspenStories%20Vol%201%2014%20017.jpg#Appearing_in_.22You.2C_Murderer.22">“You, Murderer”</a> (adaptation of The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari)</p><p>Horror Fandom<br /><a href="https://www.nextavenue.org/why-monsters-were-huge-tv-60s/">60s Monster Culture</a><br /><a href="https://www.famousmonsters.com/about-us/">Famous Monsters of Filmland</a> – <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forrest_J_Ackerman">Forest J. Ackerman</a><br /><a href="https://dangerousminds.net/comments/xerox_ferox_and_the_lost_art_of_the_horror_film_fanzine">Horror fanzines</a><br /><a href="https://www.thrillist.com/travel/nation/creepiest-urban-legend-in-every-state-american-folklore">Urban legends</a></p><p>Horror in Literature<br /><a href="https://stephenking.com">Stephen King</a> –<i> </i><a href="https://stephenking.fandom.com/wiki/IT_(book)"><i>IT</i></a> ; <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pet_Sematary"><i>Pet Semetery</i></a><br /><a href="http://annerice.com">Anne Rice</a><br /><a href="https://americanliterature.com/author/o-henry">O. Henry</a><br /><a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Video-Palace-In-Search-of-the-Eyeless-Man/Maynard-Wills/9781982156442"><i>Video Palace: In Search of the Eyeless Man</i></a><br />H.P. Lovecraft – <a href="https://lovecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Weird_Tales">Weird Tales</a><br />Edgar Allen Poe – <a href="https://www.poemuseum.org/the-masque-of-the-red-death">“The Masque of the Red Death”</a></p><p>Horror in Sound Media<br /><a href="http://videopalace.shudder.com/"><i>Video Palace</i></a><br /><a href="https://13thdimension.com/the-goofy-giddiness-of-disneys-chilling-thrilling-haunted-house-record/">Walt Disney’s <i>Chilling, Thrilling Sounds of the Haunted House</i></a><br /><a href="http://www.radiohorrorhosts.com/lightsout.html"><i>Lights Out</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.oldtimeradiodownloads.com/thriller/inner-sanctum-mysteries"><i>Inner Sanctum </i></a><br /><a href="https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-03-21-mn-4402-story.html">Arch Oboler </a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3DPsMrcjJ4"><i>Quiet Please</i> – “The Thing on the Fourble Board”</a><br /><a href="https://garage.vice.com/en_us/article/9k74m8/the-cramps-style">The Cramps</a> – <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl1-yNnhuHA">Bad Music for Bad People</a><br /><a href="https://www.cbgb.com">CBGB punk culture</a><br /><a href="https://passengerlist.org/"><i>Passenger List</i></a> podcast</p><p>Horror in Television <br /><a href="https://www.sidandmartykrofft.com">Sid and Marty Krofft</a> – <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_of_the_Lost_(1974_TV_series)"><i>Land of the Lost</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Tales-Crypt-Season-1/dp/B00G11EIY6"><i>Tales from the Crypt</i></a><br /><a href="https://twilightzone.fandom.com/wiki/The_Twilight_Zone_(original_series)"><i>Twilight Zone</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.hbo.com/lovecraft-country"><i>Lovecraft Country</i></a></p><p>Interested in the parallels to comedy and improv Colin mentioned? Check out our earlier<a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-28-taking-risks-comedy-as-tool-for-social-justice/"> episode with Caty Borum Chatoo</a> from <a href="https://cmsimpact.org/team/caty-borum-chattoo/">American University</a> and the <a href="https://yesandlaughterlab.com/">Yes, And...Laughter Lab</a></p><p>------------------------------------------<br />Featuring Walt Disney’s Chilling, Thrilling Sounds of the Haunted House <a href="https://youtu.be/H6rQyRxLBrY">https://youtu.be/H6rQyRxLBrY</a></p><p>And Bridge Of Death (From “Chernobyl” TV Series Soundtrack) · Hildur Guðnadóttir <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM_HhU_CV44">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM_HhU_CV44</a></p><p>------------------------------------------</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Settle in for an extra-spooky Halloween episode! We’re joined by Michael Monello, one of the creators of<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blair_Witch_Project"> <i>The Blair Witch Project</i></a>, Co-founder and Creative Director of <a href="https://www.campfirenyc.com/">Campfire Media</a> and co-producer of the <a href="http://videopalace.shudder.com/"><i>Video Palace</i> podcast </a>for <a href="https://www.shudder.com">Shudder</a>, and Qiana Whitted, a professor English and African American Studies at the University of South Carolina and author of <a href="https://www.rutgersuniversitypress.org/ec-comics/9780813566313"><i>EC Comics: Race, Shock and Social Protest</i></a>, which won the 2020 Eisner Award for best academic/scholarly work. Together, they discuss horror in film, radio/podcast, comics, novels, television, and every-day life, helping to map the genre for our listeners. They start with reflections on their own early exposure to the genre. Whitted discusses the way EC comics introduced racism as a form of horror across their suspense and shock oriented titles and she situates these stories within the political debates that followed from Frederic Wertham’s attacks on horror and crime comics and the ways these paved the way for the comics code. Monello traces the ways <i>Video Palace</i> took inspiration from radio horror series in the ways it uses sound to draw the listener in with a mixture of fascination and dread. Along the way, they reflect on how horror has been a site for social transgression and artistic experimentation, and consider the ways international horror films can break the formulas and take us out of a familiar space. And they end with speculations about what forms of horror will allow us to rethink our society in the wake of COVID-19 and Black Lives Matter.</p><p>Full Transcript will be available soon on our website at <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-74-horror-social-change-and-experimentation-with-michael-monello-and-qiana-whitted/" target="_blank">https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-74-horror-social-change-and-experimentation-with-michael-monello-and-qiana-whitted/</a></p><p>Here’s your horror watch/read/listen list from this episode (you may want to leave the lights on!):</p><p>Horror in Cinema<br /><a href="https://youtu.be/XBEVwaJEgaA"><i>Gremlins</i></a><br /><a href="https://youtu.be/HysJUwWWAEI"><i>Ghoulies</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCVh4lBfW-c"><i>Nightmare on Elm Street</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Dc07nSb5p4">Universal Monsters</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Vnghdsjmd0"><i>Midsommar</i></a><br /><a href="https://youtu.be/4V6FtC9XB98"><i>The Blair Witch Project</i></a><br /><a href="https://ir.vanderbilt.edu/bitstream/handle/1803/8437/Jessica%20Hamrick%20-%20Social%20Horror%20and%20Social%20Media.pdf?sequence=2&isAllowed=y">Media Horror</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sC_5SsMI8A">George Romero</a><br /><a href="https://youtu.be/owdnnaNs2RI"><i>Creepshow</i></a><br />UPA – <a href="http://www.openculture.com/2017/06/watch-a-surreal-1953-animation-of-edgar-allan-poes-tell-tale-heart-voted-the-24th-best-cartoon-of-all-time.html">“The Tell Tale Heart"</a> (animated)<br /><a href="https://www.movementsinfilm.com/german-expressionism">German Expressionism</a> – <a href="https://www.zimbio.com/Beyond+the+Box+Office/articles/6Kg_xkdaSne/How+German+Expressionism+Shaped+Horror+Movies">from Germany to American horror film</a><br /><a href="https://www2.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/news-bfi/features/100-years-cabinet-dr-caligari"><i>Cabinet of Doctor Caligari</i></a><br />David Lynch – <a href="https://ascmag.com/articles/flashback-blue-velvet"><i>Blue Velvet</i></a><br /><a href="https://youtu.be/Y_EviQj5tvA"><i>Dawn of the Dead</i></a> (<a href="https://youtu.be/M5iUUq8GUWA">extended Mall Hours version</a>)<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-Ll0bMpd8s">Tod Browning</a> – <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Dm9fRaB-4"><i>Freaks</i></a><br /><a href="https://film160horrorfilm.wordpress.com/2016/07/11/repression-in-robin-woods-introduction-to-the-american-horror-film/">Robin Woods</a><br /><a href="https://youtu.be/EBQHp2__AVQ"><i>Audition</i></a> (Japan)<br /><a href="https://youtu.be/Svhmi1wTs-A"><i>Terrified</i></a> (Argentina)<br /><a href="https://bookriot.com/anatomy-of-a-scene-the-many-endings-of-carrie/"><i>Carrie</i></a> (multiple snap endings)<br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Waters">John Waters</a> (outsider culture)<br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Peele">Jordan Peele </a>– <a href="https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/2/24/14698632/get-out-review-jordan-peele"><i>Get Out</i></a> (<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUMGzioWST4">alternate ending</a>)<i> ; </i><a href="https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/9/18257721/us-review-jordan-peele-get-out-lupita-nyongo-winston-duke-elisabeth-moss-tim-heidecker-horror"><i>Us</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNlKbqHqGcY"><i>Host</i></a><br />Producer <a href="https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/6620-this-pretty-world-the-films-of-val-lewton">Val Lewton</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR7cc5t7tv8"><i>A Quiet Place</i></a><br />Documentary: <a href="https://www.shudder.com/movies/watch/horror-noire-a-history-of-black-horror/e650978256281a67"><i>Horror Noire: A History of Black Horror</i></a></p><p>Horror in Comics<br /><a href="https://www.rutgersuniversitypress.org/ec-comics/9780813566313"><i>EC Comics: Race, Shock and Social Protest</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.dccomics.com/characters/swamp-thing">Swamp Thing</a><br /><a href="https://eccomics.fandom.com/wiki/Tales_from_the_Crypt">Tales from the Crypt</a><br /><a href="https://www.eccomics.com/history">EC comics</a> – <a href="https://www.thecomicbooks.com/gaines.html">William Gaines</a>,  <a href="http://www.tcj.com/the-al-feldstein-interview/">Al Feldstein</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Vault_of_Horror_(comics)">Vault of Terror</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Haunt_of_Fear">Haunt of Fear</a><br /><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2008/03/31/the-horror">Frederic Wertham and Moral Panic around Horror and Crime Comics</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comics_Code_Authority">Comics Code</a><br /><a href="http://ethunter1.blogspot.com/2013/11/sunday-funnies-ec-shocks-whipping.html">“The Whipping”</a><br />EC Comics illustrator <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeVs4CBiY3Q">Wally Wood</a><br /><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2002/07/22/ballbuster">Bernie Krigstein</a> – <a href="https://from-dusk-till-drawn.com/2016/05/02/master-race-by-bernie-krigstein-usa-1955/">“Master Race”</a> ; <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact_(EC_Comics)">Impact</a><br />EC <i>Shock Suspense Stories</i> – <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/26198565">“The Patriot”</a> ; <a href="https://eccomics.fandom.com/wiki/Shock_SuspenStories_Vol_1_14?file=Shock%20SuspenStories%20Vol%201%2014%20017.jpg#Appearing_in_.22You.2C_Murderer.22">“You, Murderer”</a> (adaptation of The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari)</p><p>Horror Fandom<br /><a href="https://www.nextavenue.org/why-monsters-were-huge-tv-60s/">60s Monster Culture</a><br /><a href="https://www.famousmonsters.com/about-us/">Famous Monsters of Filmland</a> – <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forrest_J_Ackerman">Forest J. Ackerman</a><br /><a href="https://dangerousminds.net/comments/xerox_ferox_and_the_lost_art_of_the_horror_film_fanzine">Horror fanzines</a><br /><a href="https://www.thrillist.com/travel/nation/creepiest-urban-legend-in-every-state-american-folklore">Urban legends</a></p><p>Horror in Literature<br /><a href="https://stephenking.com">Stephen King</a> –<i> </i><a href="https://stephenking.fandom.com/wiki/IT_(book)"><i>IT</i></a> ; <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pet_Sematary"><i>Pet Semetery</i></a><br /><a href="http://annerice.com">Anne Rice</a><br /><a href="https://americanliterature.com/author/o-henry">O. Henry</a><br /><a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Video-Palace-In-Search-of-the-Eyeless-Man/Maynard-Wills/9781982156442"><i>Video Palace: In Search of the Eyeless Man</i></a><br />H.P. Lovecraft – <a href="https://lovecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Weird_Tales">Weird Tales</a><br />Edgar Allen Poe – <a href="https://www.poemuseum.org/the-masque-of-the-red-death">“The Masque of the Red Death”</a></p><p>Horror in Sound Media<br /><a href="http://videopalace.shudder.com/"><i>Video Palace</i></a><br /><a href="https://13thdimension.com/the-goofy-giddiness-of-disneys-chilling-thrilling-haunted-house-record/">Walt Disney’s <i>Chilling, Thrilling Sounds of the Haunted House</i></a><br /><a href="http://www.radiohorrorhosts.com/lightsout.html"><i>Lights Out</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.oldtimeradiodownloads.com/thriller/inner-sanctum-mysteries"><i>Inner Sanctum </i></a><br /><a href="https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-03-21-mn-4402-story.html">Arch Oboler </a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3DPsMrcjJ4"><i>Quiet Please</i> – “The Thing on the Fourble Board”</a><br /><a href="https://garage.vice.com/en_us/article/9k74m8/the-cramps-style">The Cramps</a> – <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl1-yNnhuHA">Bad Music for Bad People</a><br /><a href="https://www.cbgb.com">CBGB punk culture</a><br /><a href="https://passengerlist.org/"><i>Passenger List</i></a> podcast</p><p>Horror in Television <br /><a href="https://www.sidandmartykrofft.com">Sid and Marty Krofft</a> – <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_of_the_Lost_(1974_TV_series)"><i>Land of the Lost</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Tales-Crypt-Season-1/dp/B00G11EIY6"><i>Tales from the Crypt</i></a><br /><a href="https://twilightzone.fandom.com/wiki/The_Twilight_Zone_(original_series)"><i>Twilight Zone</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.hbo.com/lovecraft-country"><i>Lovecraft Country</i></a></p><p>Interested in the parallels to comedy and improv Colin mentioned? Check out our earlier<a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-28-taking-risks-comedy-as-tool-for-social-justice/"> episode with Caty Borum Chatoo</a> from <a href="https://cmsimpact.org/team/caty-borum-chattoo/">American University</a> and the <a href="https://yesandlaughterlab.com/">Yes, And...Laughter Lab</a></p><p>------------------------------------------<br />Featuring Walt Disney’s Chilling, Thrilling Sounds of the Haunted House <a href="https://youtu.be/H6rQyRxLBrY">https://youtu.be/H6rQyRxLBrY</a></p><p>And Bridge Of Death (From “Chernobyl” TV Series Soundtrack) · Hildur Guðnadóttir <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM_HhU_CV44">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM_HhU_CV44</a></p><p>------------------------------------------</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>We’re joined by Crystal Echo Hawk, founder and CEO of <a href="https://illuminatives.org/">IllumiNative</a>, a research-driven initiative created and led by Natives that is challenging negative narratives and supporting accurate and authentic portrayals of Native communities in pop culture. IllumiNative builds on Echo Hawk’s massive research project, <a href="https://rnt.firstnations.org/">Reclaiming Native Truth</a>, which laid bare the shocking reality that nearly 80% of Americans (broadly defined) know little to nothing about Native peoples or aren’t even sure they even still exist, and the real-life consequences this “vanishing” narrative continues to have on Native populations. Fortunately, amid the trial and tragedy of 2020 (including the disproportionate impact of COVID on the Navajo Nation), there have been remarkable gains for Native peoples, from the ongoing power rooted in the protests at Standing Rock to the shutdown of the Dakota Access Pipeline and the Washington Football Team name change. We see media promise in the first Indigenous Filmmakers Lounge at Sundance in January to Peabody Award-winning <i>Molly of Denali </i>and a host of upcoming shows on various networks, Crystal is cautiously optimistic about the increasing visibility of Native Americans.</p><p>Visit the <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-73-increasing-visibility-native-communities-crystal-echo-hawk/">episode page</a> for the full transcript of this conversation!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>See full panel from the January 2020 <a href="https://illuminatives.org/sundance-2020/#:~:text=During%20the%20Indigenous%20Filmmakers%20Lounge,%2C%20actors%2C%20and%20industry%20leaders">Indigenous filmmakers lounge at Sundance</a><br />More about the <a href="https://www.sundance.org/programs/indigenous-program">Sundance Indigenous Program</a> (deadline for upcoming Merata Mita Fellowship program is 10/26/20)<br /><a href="https://www.sundance.org/blogs/enduring-indigenous-values-and-finding-new-ways-to-tell-our-stories-during-this-time-of-pandemic">June 2020 update from the Sundance Indigenous Program</a><br />More about <a href="https://collab.sundance.org/people/Bird-Runningwater-1524472119">Bird Runningwater, Director of Sundance Institute’s Indigenous Program</a></p><p><a href="https://www.wlvt.org/blogs/cares-act/native-american-tribes-to-finally-begin-receiving-cares-act-funds/">Delay of CARES Act funds to Native American tribes</a><br /><a href="https://www.indianz.com/News/2020/07/08/we-do-need-additional-dollars-tribes-won.asp">Further delays to Alaska natives</a><br /><a href="https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/green/reports/2020/06/18/486480/covid-19-response-indian-country/">Report on federal COVID-19 response in Indian Country</a><br /><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/04/disease-has-never-been-just-disease-native-americans/610852/">History of Native American vulnerability to pandemics</a></p><p><a href="http://www.aimovement.org/ggc/history.html">A Brief History of the American Indian Movement in Minneapolis</a><br /><a href="https://www.startribune.com/american-indian-patrol-in-minneapolis-credited-with-saving-buildings-during-violence/571187282/">Local response of AIM in the wake of George Floyd protests</a><br /><a href="https://www.minnpost.com/mnopedia/2019/08/the-minneapolis-founded-american-indian-movement-responded-to-the-needs-of-urban-american-indians/">History of AIM's American Indian Patrol responding to police brutality</a><br /><a href="https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/06/american-indian-movement-patrol-defund-police-minneapolis/">Long history of native organizing against police misconduct in Minneapolis</a><br /><a href="https://www.vice.com/en/article/qj4wqq/another-story-derek-chauvin-police-brutality-minneapolis-before-george-floyd">2011 killing of a Native American man by Derek Chauvin</a></p><p><a href="https://ndncollective.org/ndn-collective-calls-for-closure-of-mount-rushmore-and-for-the-black-hills-to-be-returned-to-the-lakota/">NDN Collective Calls for Closure of Mount Rushmore and for the Black Hills to be Returned to the Lakota</a><br /><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/07/mcgirt-case-historic-win-tribes/614071/">Why McGirt v. Oklahoma was a landmark decision for Native-treaty-rights</a></p><p><a href="http://www.ncai.org/proudtobe">National Congress of American Indians’ Long Standing Opposition to Harmful "Indian" Sports Mascots</a><br />Key activists: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzan_Shown_Harjo">Suzan Shown Harjo</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/blackhorse_a?lang=en">Amanda Blackhorse</a></p><p><a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2158244018785703">Effectiveness of the protests against the Dakota Access Pipeline at Standing Rock in North Dakota</a><br /><a href="https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2017/01/tribes-standing-rock-dakota-access-pipeline-advancement/">These Are the Defiant "Water Protectors" of Standing Rock</a></p><p>“Invisibility is the modern form of racism against Native Americans”<br /><a href="https://rnt.firstnations.org/">Reclaiming Native Truth project</a><br /><a href="http://www.indianmascots.com/fryberg--web-psychological_.pdf">Stephanie Fryberg’s research on The Psychological Consequences of American Indian Mascots</a><br /><a href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00933104.2014.999849">Sarah Shear, Re/presentations of Indigenous Peoples in K–12 U.S. History Standards</a><br /><a href="https://www.ihs.gov/california/index.cfm/tribal-consultation/resources-for-tribal-leaders/links-and-resources/list-of-federally-recognized-tribes-in-ca/?mobileFormat=0">List of Federally-Recognized Native Tribes in CA</a></p><p><a href="https://illuminatives.org/">IllumiNative website</a><br /><a href="http://indigenousfutures.illuminatives.org/">Indigenous Futures Project</a><br /><a href="https://illuminatives.org/change-the-name/">Change the Name</a> campaign<br /><a href="https://illuminatives.org/indigenouspeoplesday2020/">Indigenous Peoples' Day 2020 Toolkit & Home-Educational Resources</a><br />IllumiNative’s <a href="https://illuminatives.org/illuminative-on-air-podcast/">On-Air podcast</a></p><p>Native Americans currently serving in US Congress:<br /><a href="https://cole.house.gov/">Tom Cole (OK-04)</a><br /><a href="https://mullin.house.gov/">Markwayne Mullin (OK-02)</a><br /><a href="https://haaland.house.gov/">Deb Haaland (NM-01)</a><br /><a href="https://davids.house.gov/">Sharice Davids (KS-03)</a></p><p>Filmmaker <a href="http://www.sterlinharjo.com/bio">Sterlin Harjo</a></p><p><a href="https://pbskids.org/molly">Molly of Denali</a> (PBS Kids)<br />Creative Producer <a href="https://www.npr.org/2019/07/21/743944680/with-alaskan-native-lead-molly-of-denali-breaks-new-ground">Princess Johnson</a> on the development of the story<br />Actress <a href="https://www.today.com/style/meet-alaska-native-sovereign-bill-voice-molly-denali-pbs-t160438">Sovereign Bill</a><br /><a href="https://ca.pbslearningmedia.org/resource/mod19-soc-grandpasdrum/grandpas-drum-molly-of-denali/">Grandpa’s Drum</a> episode<br /><a href="http://www.peabodyawards.com/award-profile/molly-of-denali">Peabody Award</a>; 2019 Peabody Awards also included winner <a href="http://www.peabodyawards.com/award-profile/the-refuge">The Refuge</a> and nominee <a href="http://www.peabodyawards.com/award-profile/warrior-women">Warrior Women</a></p><p>Marvel Comics:<br /><a href="https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/taboo-of-the-black-eyed-peas-and-benjamin-jackendoff-introduce-a-new-werewolf-by-night">Taboo of the Black Eyed Peas collaboration on new Werewolf By Night</a><br /><a href="https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/marvel-honors-indigenous-history-with-native-american-tribute-covers-by-jeffrey-veregge">Native American Heritage Month</a> (with images!)<br /><a href="https://www.marvel.com/watch/digital-series/marvel-s-voices">Marvel’s Voices</a> initiative<br /><a href="https://www.colorincolorado.org/booklist/graphic-novels-and-comics-american-indian-heritage">Other graphic novels and comics featuring Native American heritage</a></p><p>Television:<br /><a href="https://deadline.com/2020/08/rutherford-falls-sierra-teller-ornelas-native-american-peacock-1203009156/">Rutherford Falls</a> – Sierra Teller Ornelas (Peacock)<br /><a href="https://oklahoman.com/article/5665914/interview-and-video-oklahoma-native-american-filmmaker-talks-new-documentary-love-and-fury-indigenous-art-reservation-dogs-and-more">Reservation Dogs </a>Sterlin Harjo and Taika Waititi (FX)</p><p><a href="https://variety.com/2020/film/news/endeavor-content-producer-heather-rae-indigenous-filmmakers-1234801288/">Endeavor Content development deal with producer Heather Rae</a></p><p>Visit us at <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/">howdoyoulikeitsofar.org</a> or share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2020 13:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Henry Jenkins, Crystal Echo Hawk, Colin Maclay)</author>
      <link>https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-73-increasing-visibility-native-communities-crystal-echo-hawk/</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re joined by Crystal Echo Hawk, founder and CEO of <a href="https://illuminatives.org/">IllumiNative</a>, a research-driven initiative created and led by Natives that is challenging negative narratives and supporting accurate and authentic portrayals of Native communities in pop culture. IllumiNative builds on Echo Hawk’s massive research project, <a href="https://rnt.firstnations.org/">Reclaiming Native Truth</a>, which laid bare the shocking reality that nearly 80% of Americans (broadly defined) know little to nothing about Native peoples or aren’t even sure they even still exist, and the real-life consequences this “vanishing” narrative continues to have on Native populations. Fortunately, amid the trial and tragedy of 2020 (including the disproportionate impact of COVID on the Navajo Nation), there have been remarkable gains for Native peoples, from the ongoing power rooted in the protests at Standing Rock to the shutdown of the Dakota Access Pipeline and the Washington Football Team name change. We see media promise in the first Indigenous Filmmakers Lounge at Sundance in January to Peabody Award-winning <i>Molly of Denali </i>and a host of upcoming shows on various networks, Crystal is cautiously optimistic about the increasing visibility of Native Americans.</p><p>Visit the <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-73-increasing-visibility-native-communities-crystal-echo-hawk/">episode page</a> for the full transcript of this conversation!</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>See full panel from the January 2020 <a href="https://illuminatives.org/sundance-2020/#:~:text=During%20the%20Indigenous%20Filmmakers%20Lounge,%2C%20actors%2C%20and%20industry%20leaders">Indigenous filmmakers lounge at Sundance</a><br />More about the <a href="https://www.sundance.org/programs/indigenous-program">Sundance Indigenous Program</a> (deadline for upcoming Merata Mita Fellowship program is 10/26/20)<br /><a href="https://www.sundance.org/blogs/enduring-indigenous-values-and-finding-new-ways-to-tell-our-stories-during-this-time-of-pandemic">June 2020 update from the Sundance Indigenous Program</a><br />More about <a href="https://collab.sundance.org/people/Bird-Runningwater-1524472119">Bird Runningwater, Director of Sundance Institute’s Indigenous Program</a></p><p><a href="https://www.wlvt.org/blogs/cares-act/native-american-tribes-to-finally-begin-receiving-cares-act-funds/">Delay of CARES Act funds to Native American tribes</a><br /><a href="https://www.indianz.com/News/2020/07/08/we-do-need-additional-dollars-tribes-won.asp">Further delays to Alaska natives</a><br /><a href="https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/green/reports/2020/06/18/486480/covid-19-response-indian-country/">Report on federal COVID-19 response in Indian Country</a><br /><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/04/disease-has-never-been-just-disease-native-americans/610852/">History of Native American vulnerability to pandemics</a></p><p><a href="http://www.aimovement.org/ggc/history.html">A Brief History of the American Indian Movement in Minneapolis</a><br /><a href="https://www.startribune.com/american-indian-patrol-in-minneapolis-credited-with-saving-buildings-during-violence/571187282/">Local response of AIM in the wake of George Floyd protests</a><br /><a href="https://www.minnpost.com/mnopedia/2019/08/the-minneapolis-founded-american-indian-movement-responded-to-the-needs-of-urban-american-indians/">History of AIM's American Indian Patrol responding to police brutality</a><br /><a href="https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/06/american-indian-movement-patrol-defund-police-minneapolis/">Long history of native organizing against police misconduct in Minneapolis</a><br /><a href="https://www.vice.com/en/article/qj4wqq/another-story-derek-chauvin-police-brutality-minneapolis-before-george-floyd">2011 killing of a Native American man by Derek Chauvin</a></p><p><a href="https://ndncollective.org/ndn-collective-calls-for-closure-of-mount-rushmore-and-for-the-black-hills-to-be-returned-to-the-lakota/">NDN Collective Calls for Closure of Mount Rushmore and for the Black Hills to be Returned to the Lakota</a><br /><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/07/mcgirt-case-historic-win-tribes/614071/">Why McGirt v. Oklahoma was a landmark decision for Native-treaty-rights</a></p><p><a href="http://www.ncai.org/proudtobe">National Congress of American Indians’ Long Standing Opposition to Harmful "Indian" Sports Mascots</a><br />Key activists: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzan_Shown_Harjo">Suzan Shown Harjo</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/blackhorse_a?lang=en">Amanda Blackhorse</a></p><p><a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2158244018785703">Effectiveness of the protests against the Dakota Access Pipeline at Standing Rock in North Dakota</a><br /><a href="https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2017/01/tribes-standing-rock-dakota-access-pipeline-advancement/">These Are the Defiant "Water Protectors" of Standing Rock</a></p><p>“Invisibility is the modern form of racism against Native Americans”<br /><a href="https://rnt.firstnations.org/">Reclaiming Native Truth project</a><br /><a href="http://www.indianmascots.com/fryberg--web-psychological_.pdf">Stephanie Fryberg’s research on The Psychological Consequences of American Indian Mascots</a><br /><a href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00933104.2014.999849">Sarah Shear, Re/presentations of Indigenous Peoples in K–12 U.S. History Standards</a><br /><a href="https://www.ihs.gov/california/index.cfm/tribal-consultation/resources-for-tribal-leaders/links-and-resources/list-of-federally-recognized-tribes-in-ca/?mobileFormat=0">List of Federally-Recognized Native Tribes in CA</a></p><p><a href="https://illuminatives.org/">IllumiNative website</a><br /><a href="http://indigenousfutures.illuminatives.org/">Indigenous Futures Project</a><br /><a href="https://illuminatives.org/change-the-name/">Change the Name</a> campaign<br /><a href="https://illuminatives.org/indigenouspeoplesday2020/">Indigenous Peoples' Day 2020 Toolkit & Home-Educational Resources</a><br />IllumiNative’s <a href="https://illuminatives.org/illuminative-on-air-podcast/">On-Air podcast</a></p><p>Native Americans currently serving in US Congress:<br /><a href="https://cole.house.gov/">Tom Cole (OK-04)</a><br /><a href="https://mullin.house.gov/">Markwayne Mullin (OK-02)</a><br /><a href="https://haaland.house.gov/">Deb Haaland (NM-01)</a><br /><a href="https://davids.house.gov/">Sharice Davids (KS-03)</a></p><p>Filmmaker <a href="http://www.sterlinharjo.com/bio">Sterlin Harjo</a></p><p><a href="https://pbskids.org/molly">Molly of Denali</a> (PBS Kids)<br />Creative Producer <a href="https://www.npr.org/2019/07/21/743944680/with-alaskan-native-lead-molly-of-denali-breaks-new-ground">Princess Johnson</a> on the development of the story<br />Actress <a href="https://www.today.com/style/meet-alaska-native-sovereign-bill-voice-molly-denali-pbs-t160438">Sovereign Bill</a><br /><a href="https://ca.pbslearningmedia.org/resource/mod19-soc-grandpasdrum/grandpas-drum-molly-of-denali/">Grandpa’s Drum</a> episode<br /><a href="http://www.peabodyawards.com/award-profile/molly-of-denali">Peabody Award</a>; 2019 Peabody Awards also included winner <a href="http://www.peabodyawards.com/award-profile/the-refuge">The Refuge</a> and nominee <a href="http://www.peabodyawards.com/award-profile/warrior-women">Warrior Women</a></p><p>Marvel Comics:<br /><a href="https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/taboo-of-the-black-eyed-peas-and-benjamin-jackendoff-introduce-a-new-werewolf-by-night">Taboo of the Black Eyed Peas collaboration on new Werewolf By Night</a><br /><a href="https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/marvel-honors-indigenous-history-with-native-american-tribute-covers-by-jeffrey-veregge">Native American Heritage Month</a> (with images!)<br /><a href="https://www.marvel.com/watch/digital-series/marvel-s-voices">Marvel’s Voices</a> initiative<br /><a href="https://www.colorincolorado.org/booklist/graphic-novels-and-comics-american-indian-heritage">Other graphic novels and comics featuring Native American heritage</a></p><p>Television:<br /><a href="https://deadline.com/2020/08/rutherford-falls-sierra-teller-ornelas-native-american-peacock-1203009156/">Rutherford Falls</a> – Sierra Teller Ornelas (Peacock)<br /><a href="https://oklahoman.com/article/5665914/interview-and-video-oklahoma-native-american-filmmaker-talks-new-documentary-love-and-fury-indigenous-art-reservation-dogs-and-more">Reservation Dogs </a>Sterlin Harjo and Taika Waititi (FX)</p><p><a href="https://variety.com/2020/film/news/endeavor-content-producer-heather-rae-indigenous-filmmakers-1234801288/">Endeavor Content development deal with producer Heather Rae</a></p><p>Visit us at <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/">howdoyoulikeitsofar.org</a> or share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>Crystal Echo Hawk is founder and CEO of IllumiNative, a research-driven initiative created and led by Natives that is challenging negative narratives and supporting accurate and authentic portrayals of Native communities in pop culture. We acknowledge the real-life consequences of media erasure on Native populations and highlight promising efforts to combat stereotypes and tell current stories.
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      <title>Religion, Sports and Popular Culture Are The Same / Seeking Sanctuary During the Apocalypse with Varun Soni</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>If you like religion, sports or popular culture, this episode is for you, dear listener… and if you think you’re not interested in them, it is even more definitely for you! We are joined by <a href="https://varunsoni.com/">Varun Soni</a>, USC’s <a href="https://orsl.usc.edu/">Dean of Religious Life</a> and the first Hindu to serve as the chief spiritual officer of an American university. We traverse pandemic-driven transitions in higher education, acknowledging potentially lasting harms to students and others. We back out to the way the pandemic challenges our human need to look ahead, noting that we have not yet dealt with the present and wondering what our new stories of the future will be. That takes us to popular culture, which confronts polarization and isolation, giving us unique frameworks to talk in a way we can’t elsewhere. The conversation launches into an exploration of sports as religion and the activist role of sports – especially the WNBA and NBA – in this period of change. From the connection between fandom and religion, we end with powerful insights on Bob Marley as musician… and prophet. </p><p><a href="https://thriveglobal.com/stories/universities-coronavirus-pandemic-schools-college-students-online-classes-community-building/">Varun's Essay: How Universities Can Think About Community-Building Through the Coronavirus Pandemic</a><br /><a href="https://www.cigna.com/about-us/newsroom/studies-and-reports/combatting-loneliness/">Loneliness Report and related resources</a><br /><a href="https://mindful.usc.edu/">USC Mindfulness classes</a></p><p><a href="https://time.com/5815367/coronavirus-deaths-comparison/">COVID as an event is responsible for the 4th largest number of casualties in American history</a></p><p>Varun hosts the <a href="https://www.religionofsports.com/more-than-a-game/">Religion of Sports Podcast</a><br /><a href="https://religion.ucsb.edu/people/emeriti/catherine-l-albanese/">Catherine Albanese</a> offers a definition of religion in <a href="https://books.google.com/books/about/America_Religions_and_Religion.html?id=3yQvAAAAYAAJ">America, Religions, and Religion</a></p><p><a href="https://harvardlawreview.org/1980/01/brown-v-board-of-education-and-the-interest-convergence-dilemma/">Derrick Bell: Interest-Convergence</a> is a principle of critical race theory</p><p>Recent social activism in the NBA:<br /><a href="https://www.globalcitizen.org/es/content/nba-basketball-activism-national-anthem/">How the NBA Is Quietly Becoming the Most Progressive Pro-Sports League in America</a><br /><a href="https://www.marketwatch.com/story/nba-players-effectively-went-on-strike-this-new-form-of-athlete-activism-is-more-powerful-than-raising-awareness-11598882233">NBA "Players' Strike" as a new form of athlete activism</a><br /><a href="https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/28/us/nba-boycott-protest-basketball-why-trnd/index.html">NBA players "sit out" the playoffs</a></p><p>Longer history of activism in the WNBA:<br /><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/08/05/wnba-players-are-so-livid-sen-kelly-loeffler-team-owner-theyre-backing-her-opponent/">WNBA players urge 'Vote Warnock' against Senator Kelly Loeffler</a><br /><a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2020/09/04/909638021/how-black-women-athletes-paved-the-way-for-the-nba-strike">How The WNBA Paved The Way For The NBA Strike : Code Switch</a><br /><a href="https://slate.com/culture/2020/08/wnba-activism-nba-strike-influence-jacob-blake.html">The WNBA made the NBA strike possible.</a><br /><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/08/07/taking-stand-isnt-new-wnba-its-way-life/">Perspective | Taking a stand isn’t new for the WNBA. It’s a way of life.</a><br /><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/05/sports/basketball/wnba-loeffler-warnock-blm.html">The One Name the W.N.B.A. Won’t Say</a></p><p>Selected activists in Sports:<br /><a href="https://theundefeated.com/features/bill-russell-activist-for-the-ages/">Bill Russell</a><br /><a href="https://www.npr.org/2016/06/10/481523465/in-political-activism-ali-pulled-no-punches-and-paid-a-heavy-price">Muhammad Ali</a><br /><a href="https://www.wpr.org/kareem-abdul-jabbar-discusses-activism-antetokounmpo-and-more">Kareem Abdul-Jabbar</a><br /><a href="https://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/story/2020-10-13/lakers-lebron-james-nba-social-justice-activism">LeBron James</a><br /><a href="https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2019/12/13/megan-rapinoe-soccer-world-cup-video">Megan Rapinoe</a><br /><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/05/sports/football/george-floyd-kaepernick-kneeling-nfl-protests.html">Colin Kaepernick</a></p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1997/01/19/nyregion/when-soccer-schedules-conflict-with-religious-activities.html">Religious services rescheduling around AYSO soccer</a></p><p><a href="https://time.com/4955717/trump-protests-mlk-martin-luther-king-kneeling/">Famous image of MLK kneeling in prayer</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomahawk_chop">Tomahawk chop</a></p><p>“<a href="https://quoteinvestigator.com/2012/11/15/arc-of-universe/">The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice</a>”</p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-18-diane-winston-on-religion-and-the-entertainment-media/">Ep 18: Diane Winston on religion and the entertainment media</a><br /><a href="http://medkult.upmedia.cz/2016/08/03/the-beginning-of-the-fan-movement-brief-history-of-the-first-fandoms/">Origin of the word “fandom”</a><br /><a href="https://thriveglobal.com/stories/how-the-la-clippers-made-me-a-better-hindu/">Varun's Essay: How the LA Clippers Made Me a Better Hindu</a></p><p>Human stories about sports:<br />ESPN: <a href="http://www.espn.com/30for30/volume1">30 for 30</a><br />HBO: <a href="https://www.hbo.com/real-sports-with-bryant-gumbel">Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel</a></p><p><a href="https://thriveglobal.com/stories/what-we-can-learn-from-bob-marleys-spiritual-legacy/">Varun’s Essay: What We Can Learn From Bob Marley's Spiritual Legacy</a><br /><a href="https://www.figueroapress.com/product/natural-mystics/">Varun's book: Natural Mystics</a><br /><a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/the-life-and-times-of-bob-marley-78392/">Bob Marley: How He Changed the World</a><br />Sufi teacher <a href="https://www.ramdass.org/hazrat-inayat-khan/">Hazrat Inayat Khan</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rastafari">Basics of Rastafari</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>!</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>“Is This Love?” by Bob Marley and the Wailers <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHekNnySAfM">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHekNnySAfM</a></p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2020 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Varun Soni, Henry Jenkins, Colin Maclay)</author>
      <link>https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-72-religion-sports-popular-culture-varun-soni</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you like religion, sports or popular culture, this episode is for you, dear listener… and if you think you’re not interested in them, it is even more definitely for you! We are joined by <a href="https://varunsoni.com/">Varun Soni</a>, USC’s <a href="https://orsl.usc.edu/">Dean of Religious Life</a> and the first Hindu to serve as the chief spiritual officer of an American university. We traverse pandemic-driven transitions in higher education, acknowledging potentially lasting harms to students and others. We back out to the way the pandemic challenges our human need to look ahead, noting that we have not yet dealt with the present and wondering what our new stories of the future will be. That takes us to popular culture, which confronts polarization and isolation, giving us unique frameworks to talk in a way we can’t elsewhere. The conversation launches into an exploration of sports as religion and the activist role of sports – especially the WNBA and NBA – in this period of change. From the connection between fandom and religion, we end with powerful insights on Bob Marley as musician… and prophet. </p><p><a href="https://thriveglobal.com/stories/universities-coronavirus-pandemic-schools-college-students-online-classes-community-building/">Varun's Essay: How Universities Can Think About Community-Building Through the Coronavirus Pandemic</a><br /><a href="https://www.cigna.com/about-us/newsroom/studies-and-reports/combatting-loneliness/">Loneliness Report and related resources</a><br /><a href="https://mindful.usc.edu/">USC Mindfulness classes</a></p><p><a href="https://time.com/5815367/coronavirus-deaths-comparison/">COVID as an event is responsible for the 4th largest number of casualties in American history</a></p><p>Varun hosts the <a href="https://www.religionofsports.com/more-than-a-game/">Religion of Sports Podcast</a><br /><a href="https://religion.ucsb.edu/people/emeriti/catherine-l-albanese/">Catherine Albanese</a> offers a definition of religion in <a href="https://books.google.com/books/about/America_Religions_and_Religion.html?id=3yQvAAAAYAAJ">America, Religions, and Religion</a></p><p><a href="https://harvardlawreview.org/1980/01/brown-v-board-of-education-and-the-interest-convergence-dilemma/">Derrick Bell: Interest-Convergence</a> is a principle of critical race theory</p><p>Recent social activism in the NBA:<br /><a href="https://www.globalcitizen.org/es/content/nba-basketball-activism-national-anthem/">How the NBA Is Quietly Becoming the Most Progressive Pro-Sports League in America</a><br /><a href="https://www.marketwatch.com/story/nba-players-effectively-went-on-strike-this-new-form-of-athlete-activism-is-more-powerful-than-raising-awareness-11598882233">NBA "Players' Strike" as a new form of athlete activism</a><br /><a href="https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/28/us/nba-boycott-protest-basketball-why-trnd/index.html">NBA players "sit out" the playoffs</a></p><p>Longer history of activism in the WNBA:<br /><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/08/05/wnba-players-are-so-livid-sen-kelly-loeffler-team-owner-theyre-backing-her-opponent/">WNBA players urge 'Vote Warnock' against Senator Kelly Loeffler</a><br /><a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2020/09/04/909638021/how-black-women-athletes-paved-the-way-for-the-nba-strike">How The WNBA Paved The Way For The NBA Strike : Code Switch</a><br /><a href="https://slate.com/culture/2020/08/wnba-activism-nba-strike-influence-jacob-blake.html">The WNBA made the NBA strike possible.</a><br /><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/08/07/taking-stand-isnt-new-wnba-its-way-life/">Perspective | Taking a stand isn’t new for the WNBA. It’s a way of life.</a><br /><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/05/sports/basketball/wnba-loeffler-warnock-blm.html">The One Name the W.N.B.A. Won’t Say</a></p><p>Selected activists in Sports:<br /><a href="https://theundefeated.com/features/bill-russell-activist-for-the-ages/">Bill Russell</a><br /><a href="https://www.npr.org/2016/06/10/481523465/in-political-activism-ali-pulled-no-punches-and-paid-a-heavy-price">Muhammad Ali</a><br /><a href="https://www.wpr.org/kareem-abdul-jabbar-discusses-activism-antetokounmpo-and-more">Kareem Abdul-Jabbar</a><br /><a href="https://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/story/2020-10-13/lakers-lebron-james-nba-social-justice-activism">LeBron James</a><br /><a href="https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2019/12/13/megan-rapinoe-soccer-world-cup-video">Megan Rapinoe</a><br /><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/05/sports/football/george-floyd-kaepernick-kneeling-nfl-protests.html">Colin Kaepernick</a></p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1997/01/19/nyregion/when-soccer-schedules-conflict-with-religious-activities.html">Religious services rescheduling around AYSO soccer</a></p><p><a href="https://time.com/4955717/trump-protests-mlk-martin-luther-king-kneeling/">Famous image of MLK kneeling in prayer</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomahawk_chop">Tomahawk chop</a></p><p>“<a href="https://quoteinvestigator.com/2012/11/15/arc-of-universe/">The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice</a>”</p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-18-diane-winston-on-religion-and-the-entertainment-media/">Ep 18: Diane Winston on religion and the entertainment media</a><br /><a href="http://medkult.upmedia.cz/2016/08/03/the-beginning-of-the-fan-movement-brief-history-of-the-first-fandoms/">Origin of the word “fandom”</a><br /><a href="https://thriveglobal.com/stories/how-the-la-clippers-made-me-a-better-hindu/">Varun's Essay: How the LA Clippers Made Me a Better Hindu</a></p><p>Human stories about sports:<br />ESPN: <a href="http://www.espn.com/30for30/volume1">30 for 30</a><br />HBO: <a href="https://www.hbo.com/real-sports-with-bryant-gumbel">Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel</a></p><p><a href="https://thriveglobal.com/stories/what-we-can-learn-from-bob-marleys-spiritual-legacy/">Varun’s Essay: What We Can Learn From Bob Marley's Spiritual Legacy</a><br /><a href="https://www.figueroapress.com/product/natural-mystics/">Varun's book: Natural Mystics</a><br /><a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/the-life-and-times-of-bob-marley-78392/">Bob Marley: How He Changed the World</a><br />Sufi teacher <a href="https://www.ramdass.org/hazrat-inayat-khan/">Hazrat Inayat Khan</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rastafari">Basics of Rastafari</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>!</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>“Is This Love?” by Bob Marley and the Wailers <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHekNnySAfM">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHekNnySAfM</a></p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>The Undocumented Document Themselves with Set Hernandez Rongkilyo</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week, from deep in the San Fernando Valley, we’re joined by filmmaker Set Hernandez Rongkilyo. A passionate storyteller from a young age, Set’s early love of Anime and desire to be an animator transitioned into becoming a passionate storyteller, through documentary film and now other forms as well. Set discusses their resistance to approaching documentary subjects from a supposedly neutral perspective, as well as the tropes of tragedy porn and binary narratives of the undocumented immigrant experience, and highlights some key influences and inspirations for the way they’ve worked differently in their film <a href="http://www.cover-age.org"><i>COVER/AGE</i></a> and continue to do so with work-in-progress <i>Unseen</i>. They also detail their work with the Undocumented Filmmakers Collective, striving to increase representation behind as well as in front of the camera, and in the audience, leaving us with the beautiful thought that storytelling is not just an act of imagination, but also an act of remembering.</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>“Nobody in the world, nobody in history, has ever gotten their freedom by appealing to the moral sense of the people who were oppressing them.” ― Assata Shakur, from <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Assata-Autobiography-Shakur/dp/1556520743"><i>Assata: An Autobiography</i></a></p><p>The move to <a href="https://www.documentary.org/feature/decolonizedocs-check-year-after-getting-real-sessions">decolonize documentary</a><br />The complicated story of <a href="https://www.loc.gov/static/programs/national-film-preservation-board/documents/nanook2.pdf"><i>Nanook of the North</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-70-baby-sitters-club-sue-ding/">Episode 70: with Sue Ding</a><br />Film: <a href="https://www.jaddolandfilm.com/"><i>Jaddoland</i></a></p><p><a href="http://www.disclosurethemovie.com/about"><i>Disclosure</i></a> – documentary by Sam Feder</p><p><a href="https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/odyssey/educate/norths.html"><i>The North Star</i></a><i> </i>– Frederick Douglas newspaper<br /><a href="https://www.cjr.org/analysis/history-black-panther-newspaper.php"><i>Black Panther Newspaper</i></a></p><p><a href="http://www.cover-age.org"><i>COVER/AGE</i></a> film</p><p><a href="https://www.favianna.com/">Favianna Rodriquez</a> - <a href="https://www.culturalpower.org/">Center for Cultural Power</a><br /><a href="https://www.schock.cc/">Sasha Costanza-Chock</a>: <a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/out-shadows-streets"><i>Out of the Shadows, Into the Streets</i></a><br /><a href="http://opensquare.nyupress.org/books/9781479899982/read/"><i>By Any Media Necessary</i> - DREAMing Citizenship</a><br /><a href="https://www.juliosalgadoart.com/">Julio Selgado</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/eslvis/?hl=en">Jesús Iñiguez</a>: <a href="http://dreamersadrift.com">Dreamers Adrift</a> - <a href="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dreamers-adrift_b_1157743">Undocumented and Awkward</a><br /><a href="https://ourstoriesourimpact.irle.ucla.edu/tam-tran-and-cinthya-felix/">Tam Tran</a> films:  <a href="http://casori.org/LostFound.html">Lost and Found</a>; Seattle Underground Railroad<br /><a href="https://www.latinorebels.com/2018/08/14/undocumedia-humble-beginnings/">Undocumedia</a> Nancy Meza<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ0mIIjHrP0euRY42jOqPMA">The Undeportables</a> sketch comedy<br /><a href="https://mubi.com/notebook/posts/miko-revereza-reconciling-distance">Miko Revereza</a> experimental documentary<br /><a href="http://www.alanpelaez.com/">Alan Pelaez Lopez</a> spoken word/visual artist</p><p><a href="https://linktr.ee/undocufilmmakers">Undocumented Filmmakers Collective</a><br /><a href="https://time.com/2974681/boyhood-movie-making-of-richard-linklater/"><i>Boyhood</i></a>, Richard Linklater’s film 12 years in the making<br /><a href="https://www.documentary.org/gettingreal20">Getting Real</a> – Int'l Doc Assn conference<br /><a href="http://www.firelightmedia.tv/">Firelight Media</a><br />Netflix series: <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80209609">Living Undocumented</a><br /><a href="https://documentarystudies.duke.edu/people/rahi-hasan">Rahi Hasan</a>, UFC co-founder<br /><a href="https://www.blackstarfest.org/undocumentedcreatives/">UFC Panel at Black Star Film Festival</a></p><p><a href="https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/distributed/D/bo20848589.html"><i>Decolonizing Methodologies</i></a> by Linda Tuhiwai Smith</p><p>India’s <a href="http://grassrootscomics.net/">Grassroots Comics</a><br />Stacy Smith’s <a href="https://annenberg.usc.edu/research/aii">Annenberg Inclusion Initiative</a> research<br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-25-the-growing-hunger/">Episode 25: Why do we need more critics of color? (with Jeff Yang & Mauricio Mota)</a><br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-26-reimagining-the-ecology-of-cultural-criticism-elizabeth-mendez-berry-and-carolina-a-miranda/">Episode 26: Reimagining the ecology of cultural criticism (with Elizabeth Mendez Berry & Carolina A. Miranda)</a><br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-27-eric-deggans/">Episode 27: Critics of color: The added value of subtleties (with Eric Deggans)</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>!</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />–––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <br /><a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, from deep in the San Fernando Valley, we’re joined by filmmaker Set Hernandez Rongkilyo. A passionate storyteller from a young age, Set’s early love of Anime and desire to be an animator transitioned into becoming a passionate storyteller, through documentary film and now other forms as well. Set discusses their resistance to approaching documentary subjects from a supposedly neutral perspective, as well as the tropes of tragedy porn and binary narratives of the undocumented immigrant experience, and highlights some key influences and inspirations for the way they’ve worked differently in their film <a href="http://www.cover-age.org"><i>COVER/AGE</i></a> and continue to do so with work-in-progress <i>Unseen</i>. They also detail their work with the Undocumented Filmmakers Collective, striving to increase representation behind as well as in front of the camera, and in the audience, leaving us with the beautiful thought that storytelling is not just an act of imagination, but also an act of remembering.</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:</p><p>“Nobody in the world, nobody in history, has ever gotten their freedom by appealing to the moral sense of the people who were oppressing them.” ― Assata Shakur, from <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Assata-Autobiography-Shakur/dp/1556520743"><i>Assata: An Autobiography</i></a></p><p>The move to <a href="https://www.documentary.org/feature/decolonizedocs-check-year-after-getting-real-sessions">decolonize documentary</a><br />The complicated story of <a href="https://www.loc.gov/static/programs/national-film-preservation-board/documents/nanook2.pdf"><i>Nanook of the North</i></a><br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-70-baby-sitters-club-sue-ding/">Episode 70: with Sue Ding</a><br />Film: <a href="https://www.jaddolandfilm.com/"><i>Jaddoland</i></a></p><p><a href="http://www.disclosurethemovie.com/about"><i>Disclosure</i></a> – documentary by Sam Feder</p><p><a href="https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/odyssey/educate/norths.html"><i>The North Star</i></a><i> </i>– Frederick Douglas newspaper<br /><a href="https://www.cjr.org/analysis/history-black-panther-newspaper.php"><i>Black Panther Newspaper</i></a></p><p><a href="http://www.cover-age.org"><i>COVER/AGE</i></a> film</p><p><a href="https://www.favianna.com/">Favianna Rodriquez</a> - <a href="https://www.culturalpower.org/">Center for Cultural Power</a><br /><a href="https://www.schock.cc/">Sasha Costanza-Chock</a>: <a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/out-shadows-streets"><i>Out of the Shadows, Into the Streets</i></a><br /><a href="http://opensquare.nyupress.org/books/9781479899982/read/"><i>By Any Media Necessary</i> - DREAMing Citizenship</a><br /><a href="https://www.juliosalgadoart.com/">Julio Selgado</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/eslvis/?hl=en">Jesús Iñiguez</a>: <a href="http://dreamersadrift.com">Dreamers Adrift</a> - <a href="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dreamers-adrift_b_1157743">Undocumented and Awkward</a><br /><a href="https://ourstoriesourimpact.irle.ucla.edu/tam-tran-and-cinthya-felix/">Tam Tran</a> films:  <a href="http://casori.org/LostFound.html">Lost and Found</a>; Seattle Underground Railroad<br /><a href="https://www.latinorebels.com/2018/08/14/undocumedia-humble-beginnings/">Undocumedia</a> Nancy Meza<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ0mIIjHrP0euRY42jOqPMA">The Undeportables</a> sketch comedy<br /><a href="https://mubi.com/notebook/posts/miko-revereza-reconciling-distance">Miko Revereza</a> experimental documentary<br /><a href="http://www.alanpelaez.com/">Alan Pelaez Lopez</a> spoken word/visual artist</p><p><a href="https://linktr.ee/undocufilmmakers">Undocumented Filmmakers Collective</a><br /><a href="https://time.com/2974681/boyhood-movie-making-of-richard-linklater/"><i>Boyhood</i></a>, Richard Linklater’s film 12 years in the making<br /><a href="https://www.documentary.org/gettingreal20">Getting Real</a> – Int'l Doc Assn conference<br /><a href="http://www.firelightmedia.tv/">Firelight Media</a><br />Netflix series: <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80209609">Living Undocumented</a><br /><a href="https://documentarystudies.duke.edu/people/rahi-hasan">Rahi Hasan</a>, UFC co-founder<br /><a href="https://www.blackstarfest.org/undocumentedcreatives/">UFC Panel at Black Star Film Festival</a></p><p><a href="https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/distributed/D/bo20848589.html"><i>Decolonizing Methodologies</i></a> by Linda Tuhiwai Smith</p><p>India’s <a href="http://grassrootscomics.net/">Grassroots Comics</a><br />Stacy Smith’s <a href="https://annenberg.usc.edu/research/aii">Annenberg Inclusion Initiative</a> research<br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-25-the-growing-hunger/">Episode 25: Why do we need more critics of color? (with Jeff Yang & Mauricio Mota)</a><br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-26-reimagining-the-ecology-of-cultural-criticism-elizabeth-mendez-berry-and-carolina-a-miranda/">Episode 26: Reimagining the ecology of cultural criticism (with Elizabeth Mendez Berry & Carolina A. Miranda)</a><br /><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-27-eric-deggans/">Episode 27: Critics of color: The added value of subtleties (with Eric Deggans)</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>!</p><p>Music:<br />“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br />–––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br />Spaceship by Lesion X <br /><a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br />Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <br /><a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br />Music promoted by Audio Library <br /><a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>How the Baby-Sitters Club Changed Asian-American Culture with Sue Ding</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p><i>the Furious</i>, and in between, explores issues of documentary filmmaking, emerging media, and Asian-American identity. The episode features <a href="http://www.sue-ding.com/">Sue Ding</a>...</p><p>We begin our discussion of Ding’s recent film, <i>The Claudia Kishi Club</i>, by exploring how and why the character of Claudia from <i>The Babysitters Club</i> franchise spoke to a generation of Asian-American youth and inspired many to enter the arts, helping to pave the way for more recent representations of Asian-American characters in YA media and beyond. We consider what it means that a new generation of youth are coming of age in a world of more diverse and inclusive representations. Ding tells us about efforts by BIPOC documentary artists to form networks for mutual support and collaboration that are responding to their historic exclusion. Discussing her role programming emerging media for the Los Angeles Asian-Pacific Film Festival, Ding describes how Covid-19 and Zoom are changing what we mean by emerging media as well as why augmented reality, mixed reality, and other emerging forms offer potential to tell new kinds of stories. We close with some of her reflections on the importance of <i>The Fast and the Furious</i> franchise and its evolving representations of race and gender.  </p><p><a href="https://www.vulture.com/article/the-baby-sitters-club-finale-camp-protest.html">Baby Sitter’s Club phenomenon</a></p><p><a href="https://babysittersclub.fandom.com/wiki/Claudia_Kishi">Claudia Kishi</a></p><p><a href="https://www.bustle.com/p/how-claudia-kishi-inspired-a-generation-of-asian-american-writers-17244431">Claudia and Asian American women</a></p><p><a href="https://www.buzzfeed.com/expresident/bread-theory">Which Baby-Sitters Club character are you?</a></p><p><a href="https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20131125-do-the-velvets-beat-the-beatles">Velvet Underground</a></p><p><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81284581">The Claudia Kishi Club</a> includes interviews with:</p><ul><li><a href="https://deadline.com/2019/04/naia-cucukov-executive-walden-media-1202601627/">Naia Cucukov</a></li><li><a href="https://www.scholastic.com/teachers/authors/gale-galligan/">Gale Galligan</a></li><li><a href="http://www.heroinecomplex.com/">Sarah Kuhn</a></li><li><a href="https://cb-lee.com">CB Lee</a></li><li><a href="https://www.yumisakugawa.com">Yumi Sakugawa</a></li><li><a href="http://blog.angryasianman.com">Phil Yu</a><br /><a href="https://theycallusbruce.libsyn.com/102-they-call-us-the-baby-sitters-club">They Call Us Bruce episode on Claudia Kishi</a></li></ul><p>Baby-Sitters Club author <a href="http://www.scholastic.com/annmartin/index.html">Ann Martin</a></p><p><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81005407">The Baby-Sitters Club on Netflix</a></p><p>Some other current YA TV we mentioned:<br /><a href="https://deadline.com/2020/08/pen15-anna-konkle-maya-erskine-season-2-hulu-trailer-1203007470/">Pen15</a><br /><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80197526">Sex Education</a><br /><a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/how-all-boys-helped-usher-age-asian-american-ya-rom-n1135891">To All the Boys I’ve Loved Before</a><br /><a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2020/04/27/never-have-i-ever-mindy-kaling-netflix-teen-comedy/3020763001/">Never Have I Ever</a></p><p><a href="https://afomaumesi.com/asian-ya-novels/">Asian characters in YA fiction</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bechdel_test">Bechdel Test</a><br /><a href="https://www.nps.gov/manz/index.htm">Manzanar National Historic Site</a><br /><a href="http://www.sue-ding.com/portfolio/one-square-mile-10000-voices/">Sue’s sound installation for Manzanar</a><br /><a href="https://babysittersclub.fandom.com/wiki/Mimi_Yamamoto">Grandmother Mimi</a></p><p><a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/mulan-film-gets-backlash-lack-asian-talent-behind-camera-n1157801">Mulan controversy</a><br />IndieWire – <a href="https://www.indiewire.com/2017/08/roger-ross-williams-full-frame-documentary-festival-race-docsowhite-1201866012/">Documentary films have a race problem</a><br /><a href="https://www.browngirlsdocmafia.com/">Brown Girls Doc Mafia</a><br /><a href="https://a-doc.org/">Asian American Documentary Network</a></p><p><a href="https://festival.vcmedia.org/2020/programs/reorient-2020/">Emerging Media Program</a> – <a href="https://festival.vcmedia.org">Los Angeles Asian Pacific Film Festival</a><br /><a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/movies/2020/08/19/covid-film-festivals-go-virtual-make-great-movies-accessible-masses/3389334001/">Film festivals go virtual</a><br /><br />VR for a mass audience:<br /><a href="https://www.thevoid.com/">The Void</a><br /><a href="https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/vader-immortal-a-star-wars-vr-series-ps4/">Star Wars VR</a><br /><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/coming-attractions-the-rise-of-vr-porn/">VR porn</a><br />For more discussion on VR, check out <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-nonny-de-la-pena-on-ready-player-1-and-the-ethics-and-aesthetics-of-virtual-reality/">Episode 10: Nonny De La Peña on <i>Ready Player One</i> and the ethics and aesthetics of virtual reality</a></p><p><br /><br /> </p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_%26_Furious">The Fast and the Furious</a>:<br /><a href="https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/franchise/Fast-and-the-Furious#tab=summary">Box office success</a><br /><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2017/04/16/how-the-fast-and-the-furious-franchise-became-one-of-the-few-things-the-world-could-agree-on/">Global fan base</a><br /><a href="https://www.npr.org/2011/04/28/135812726/fast-furious-a-progressive-force">Wesley Morris on Race in The Fast and the Furious franchise</a><br /><a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/08/fast-and-furious-hobbs-and-shaw-samoa-dwayne-johnson">The Rock – Samoan background in Hobbes and Shaw</a><br /><a href="http://africultures.com/vin-diesel-a-colorless-actor-for-a-colorblind-america-3781/">Vin Diesel</a> as racially ambiguous</p><p>Sue’s episode of KCET’s Artbound: <a href="https://www.kcet.org/shows/artbound/episodes/light-space-0">Light & Space</a><br /><br /> </p><p>George Takei:<br /><a href="https://www.amc.com/shows/the-terror/talk/2018/12/george-takei-joins-the-terror-season-2-as-consultant-and-series-regular">The Terror</a><br /><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/09/books/review/they-called-us-enemy-george-takei.html">They Called Us Enemy</a></p><p>Stacy Smith <a href="https://annenberg.usc.edu/research/aii">Annenberg Inclusion Initiative</a> research</p><p><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/lovecraft-country-essay/">Lovecraft Country</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>!</p><p>Music:</p><p>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 1 Oct 2020 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Colin Maclay, Sue Ding, Henry Jenkins)</author>
      <link>https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-70-baby-sitters-club-sue-ding/</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>the Furious</i>, and in between, explores issues of documentary filmmaking, emerging media, and Asian-American identity. The episode features <a href="http://www.sue-ding.com/">Sue Ding</a>...</p><p>We begin our discussion of Ding’s recent film, <i>The Claudia Kishi Club</i>, by exploring how and why the character of Claudia from <i>The Babysitters Club</i> franchise spoke to a generation of Asian-American youth and inspired many to enter the arts, helping to pave the way for more recent representations of Asian-American characters in YA media and beyond. We consider what it means that a new generation of youth are coming of age in a world of more diverse and inclusive representations. Ding tells us about efforts by BIPOC documentary artists to form networks for mutual support and collaboration that are responding to their historic exclusion. Discussing her role programming emerging media for the Los Angeles Asian-Pacific Film Festival, Ding describes how Covid-19 and Zoom are changing what we mean by emerging media as well as why augmented reality, mixed reality, and other emerging forms offer potential to tell new kinds of stories. We close with some of her reflections on the importance of <i>The Fast and the Furious</i> franchise and its evolving representations of race and gender.  </p><p><a href="https://www.vulture.com/article/the-baby-sitters-club-finale-camp-protest.html">Baby Sitter’s Club phenomenon</a></p><p><a href="https://babysittersclub.fandom.com/wiki/Claudia_Kishi">Claudia Kishi</a></p><p><a href="https://www.bustle.com/p/how-claudia-kishi-inspired-a-generation-of-asian-american-writers-17244431">Claudia and Asian American women</a></p><p><a href="https://www.buzzfeed.com/expresident/bread-theory">Which Baby-Sitters Club character are you?</a></p><p><a href="https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20131125-do-the-velvets-beat-the-beatles">Velvet Underground</a></p><p><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81284581">The Claudia Kishi Club</a> includes interviews with:</p><ul><li><a href="https://deadline.com/2019/04/naia-cucukov-executive-walden-media-1202601627/">Naia Cucukov</a></li><li><a href="https://www.scholastic.com/teachers/authors/gale-galligan/">Gale Galligan</a></li><li><a href="http://www.heroinecomplex.com/">Sarah Kuhn</a></li><li><a href="https://cb-lee.com">CB Lee</a></li><li><a href="https://www.yumisakugawa.com">Yumi Sakugawa</a></li><li><a href="http://blog.angryasianman.com">Phil Yu</a><br /><a href="https://theycallusbruce.libsyn.com/102-they-call-us-the-baby-sitters-club">They Call Us Bruce episode on Claudia Kishi</a></li></ul><p>Baby-Sitters Club author <a href="http://www.scholastic.com/annmartin/index.html">Ann Martin</a></p><p><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81005407">The Baby-Sitters Club on Netflix</a></p><p>Some other current YA TV we mentioned:<br /><a href="https://deadline.com/2020/08/pen15-anna-konkle-maya-erskine-season-2-hulu-trailer-1203007470/">Pen15</a><br /><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80197526">Sex Education</a><br /><a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/how-all-boys-helped-usher-age-asian-american-ya-rom-n1135891">To All the Boys I’ve Loved Before</a><br /><a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2020/04/27/never-have-i-ever-mindy-kaling-netflix-teen-comedy/3020763001/">Never Have I Ever</a></p><p><a href="https://afomaumesi.com/asian-ya-novels/">Asian characters in YA fiction</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bechdel_test">Bechdel Test</a><br /><a href="https://www.nps.gov/manz/index.htm">Manzanar National Historic Site</a><br /><a href="http://www.sue-ding.com/portfolio/one-square-mile-10000-voices/">Sue’s sound installation for Manzanar</a><br /><a href="https://babysittersclub.fandom.com/wiki/Mimi_Yamamoto">Grandmother Mimi</a></p><p><a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/mulan-film-gets-backlash-lack-asian-talent-behind-camera-n1157801">Mulan controversy</a><br />IndieWire – <a href="https://www.indiewire.com/2017/08/roger-ross-williams-full-frame-documentary-festival-race-docsowhite-1201866012/">Documentary films have a race problem</a><br /><a href="https://www.browngirlsdocmafia.com/">Brown Girls Doc Mafia</a><br /><a href="https://a-doc.org/">Asian American Documentary Network</a></p><p><a href="https://festival.vcmedia.org/2020/programs/reorient-2020/">Emerging Media Program</a> – <a href="https://festival.vcmedia.org">Los Angeles Asian Pacific Film Festival</a><br /><a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/movies/2020/08/19/covid-film-festivals-go-virtual-make-great-movies-accessible-masses/3389334001/">Film festivals go virtual</a><br /><br />VR for a mass audience:<br /><a href="https://www.thevoid.com/">The Void</a><br /><a href="https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/vader-immortal-a-star-wars-vr-series-ps4/">Star Wars VR</a><br /><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/coming-attractions-the-rise-of-vr-porn/">VR porn</a><br />For more discussion on VR, check out <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-nonny-de-la-pena-on-ready-player-1-and-the-ethics-and-aesthetics-of-virtual-reality/">Episode 10: Nonny De La Peña on <i>Ready Player One</i> and the ethics and aesthetics of virtual reality</a></p><p><br /><br /> </p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_%26_Furious">The Fast and the Furious</a>:<br /><a href="https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/franchise/Fast-and-the-Furious#tab=summary">Box office success</a><br /><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2017/04/16/how-the-fast-and-the-furious-franchise-became-one-of-the-few-things-the-world-could-agree-on/">Global fan base</a><br /><a href="https://www.npr.org/2011/04/28/135812726/fast-furious-a-progressive-force">Wesley Morris on Race in The Fast and the Furious franchise</a><br /><a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/08/fast-and-furious-hobbs-and-shaw-samoa-dwayne-johnson">The Rock – Samoan background in Hobbes and Shaw</a><br /><a href="http://africultures.com/vin-diesel-a-colorless-actor-for-a-colorblind-america-3781/">Vin Diesel</a> as racially ambiguous</p><p>Sue’s episode of KCET’s Artbound: <a href="https://www.kcet.org/shows/artbound/episodes/light-space-0">Light & Space</a><br /><br /> </p><p>George Takei:<br /><a href="https://www.amc.com/shows/the-terror/talk/2018/12/george-takei-joins-the-terror-season-2-as-consultant-and-series-regular">The Terror</a><br /><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/09/books/review/they-called-us-enemy-george-takei.html">They Called Us Enemy</a></p><p>Stacy Smith <a href="https://annenberg.usc.edu/research/aii">Annenberg Inclusion Initiative</a> research</p><p><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/lovecraft-country-essay/">Lovecraft Country</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>!</p><p>Music:</p><p>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>The Power of Fan activism with Janae Phillips and Shawn Taylor</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week, we offer the second of an ongoing series of episodes focused on fandom and fandom studies. Last week, we explored fandom’s relationship with the creative industries. This week, we are looking at fan-based activism.</p><p>The episode features Janae Phillips, <a href="https://www.thehpalliance.org/janae_phillips">Director of Leadership and Education</a> for the <a href="https://www.thehpalliance.org/what_we_do">Harry Potter Alliance</a>, who oversees the <a href="https://granger2020.org/gla">Granger Leadership Academy</a> and the <a href="https://www.thehpalliance.org/resources">Fandom Forward</a> study guides project, among other things. <a href="https://www.shawntaylor.net/">Shawn Taylor</a> is one of the founders of <a href="https://thenerdsofcolor.org/">Nerds of Color</a> and a founding organizer of the Black Comix Arts Festival, a festival that highlights and promotes artists on the margins of the mainstream comic book industry. Shawn recently published a white paper, <a href="https://thenerdsofcolor.org/2020/06/04/we-the-fans-how-our-powers-can-change-the-world/">We The Fans: How Our Powers Can Change the World</a>, as a Senior Fellow for the <a href="https://popcollab.org/">Pop Culture Collaborative</a>. </p><p>We begin our discussion by trying to understand what we mean by fan activism and why fandom has emerged as an important driver of movements for social change. We consider why fandom might not only enable young people to enter the political process but also how fan activism becomes more sustainable because of the elements of joy, empathy, and passion it brings with it. We consider the darker sides of fan activism, including links between “toxic fandom” and the alt-right, but we also consider how fandom has become a site for anti-racism work. We share our experiences at the Granger Leadership Program this summer as an example of how the Harry Potter Alliance is helping to train young activists and the Granger/Lovegood campaign as a specific effort with the goal of registering and informing potential young voters. Finally, Shawn closes us out with some reflections on Afro-futurism as a philosophy and model for social action and the risks that it has become too cool, too fast.</p><p>This episode is dedicated to the memory of Karan Nevatia – a remarkable young producer, fan, activist, and professional.</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper: </p><p> </p><p>Here are some articles Henry has written about the <a href="https://journal.transformativeworks.org/index.php/twc/article/view/305/259">Harry Potter Alliance’s model for social change </a>and its <a href="https://www.alternet.org/2017/03/harry-potter-activism-and-culture-jamming/">Not in Harry’s Name Campaign</a>. Henry’s research group had more to say about the Harry Potter Alliance in their book,<a href="https://nyupress.org/9781479899982/by-any-media-necessary/"> <i>By Any Media Necessary: The New Youth Activism</i></a><i>. </i></p><p> </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OT7MiwuN3I">This video about the Not in Harry’s Name campaign</a> illustrates how the HPA builds on the infrastructure fandom provides.</p><p> </p><p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/books/2013/nov/26/hunger-games-fans-harry-potter-alliance">HPA’s Hunger Games Campaign</a></p><p> </p><p>More of HPA’s Fandom Forward Resources:</p><p><a href="https://www.thehpalliance.org/sites/default/files/2019-11/Star_Wars_Toolkit.pdf">Star Wars</a></p><p><a href="https://www.thehpalliance.org/sites/default/files/2019-11/Marvel_Toolkit.pdf">Marvel Cinematic Universe</a></p><p><a href="https://www.thehpalliance.org/sites/default/files/2019-10/black_panther_toolkit.pdf">Black Panther</a></p><p><a href="https://www.thehpalliance.org/sites/default/files/2019-11/Night_Vale_Toolkit.pdf">Welcome to Night Vale</a></p><p><a href="https://www.thehpalliance.org/sites/default/files/2019-11/pokemon_toolkit.pdf">Pokemon</a></p><p><a href="https://www.thehpalliance.org/sites/default/files/2019-11/Doctor_Who_Toolkit.pdf">Doctor Who</a></p><p> </p><p><a href="https://www.vox.com/2016/6/7/11858680/fandom-glossary-fanfiction-explained">Fandom Jargon</a></p><p>What is a <a href="https://verysmartbrothas.theroot.com/am-i-a-blerd-are-you-a-blerd-what-makes-one-a-blerd-1822521421">Blerd</a>?</p><p><a href="https://theycallusbruce.libsyn.com">Asian-American fans </a></p><p> </p><p>Nerds of Color: <a href="https://thenerdsofcolor.org/2016/11/18/ghost-in-the-shell-and-the-complexity-of-cultural-appropriation/">Ghost in the Shell</a> controversy</p><p><a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1367877911422862">Racebending </a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Original_Series">Star Trek</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lensman_series">E.E. “Doc” Smith – Lensmen</a> Novels</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Three">The Book of Three</a>, Prydain, The Horned King</p><p><a href="https://www.thewrap.com/indiana-jones-and-the-raiders-of-the-lost-ark-historical-accuracies-and-inaccuracies/">Raiders of the Lost Ark – mythology</a></p><p> </p><p><a href="https://nypost.com/2014/02/14/save-our-show-10-tv-fan-campaigns-that-worked/">Save Our Show campaigns</a></p><p> </p><p><a href="https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/tv/story/2020-03-25/steven-universe-rebecca-sugar-lgbtq-legacy">What Steven Universe did for queer kids</a></p><p><a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/331758168_Worldbuilding_in_Role-Playing_Games">Worldbuilding in Role-Playing Games</a></p><p> </p><p>Translating fandom skills to digital organizing; fandom as a way to make activism sustainable:</p><p><a href="https://www.huckmag.com/perspectives/activism-2/joyful-resistance-emily-reynolds-extinction-rebellion-stansted-15/">Activist joy</a></p><p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/03/how-the-handmaids-tale-dressed-protests-across-the-world">The Handmaid’s Tale</a></p><p><a href="https://www.wired.com/2017/01/princess-leia-womens-march/">Princess Leia at Women’s March</a></p><p><a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/les-miserables-hong-kong-protests-do-you-hear-people-sing-musical-a9081401.html">Hong Kong students and Les Miserables</a></p><p><a href="https://www.reuters.com/article/us-thailand-protests/thai-school-hunger-games-salute-protests-spread-idUSKCN25E1AT">Three finger salute in Thailand</a></p><p><a href="https://www.journalofmedialiteracy.org/jenkins-article-2019">Trump and Popular Culture</a></p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/28/style/tiktok-teen-politics-gen-z.html">TiKTok  Protest</a></p><p><a href="https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/16/politics/genz-voters-2020-election/index.html">What’s different about youth activism</a></p><p> </p><p>Exclusive vs. Inclusive Fandoms:</p><p><a href="https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/41132-comicsgate-explained-bigots-milkshake-marvel-dc-gamergate">Comicsgate</a></p><p><a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/1742715018793744">Gamergate</a></p><p><a href="https://www.gamesradar.com/why-miles-morales-is-a-totally-different-spider-man-than-peter-parker/">Spider-Man </a></p><p><a href="https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/kelly-marie-tran-speaks-star-wars-fan-harassment/">Star Wars - Kelly Marie Tran</a></p><p><a href="https://obsession-inc.dreamwidth.org/82589.html">Transformative fandom/affirmational fandom</a></p><p><a href="https://medium.com/improv4/saying-yes-and-a-principle-for-improv-business-life-fd050bccf7e3">Yes And</a></p><p><a href="https://www.participations.org/Volume%2010/Issue%201/6%20Busse%2010.1.pdf">Fandom Hierarchies and Ownership</a></p><p> </p><p><a href="https://ghostbusters.fandom.com/wiki/Cross_the_Streams">Cross the Streams – Ghostbusters</a></p><p> </p><p><a href="https://www.mugglenet.com/2012/03/s-p-e-w-did-hermione-get-it-wrong/">Hermoine Granger - SPEW</a></p><p><a href="https://granger2020.org/gla">Granger Leadership Academy</a></p><p>“<a href="https://www.insider.com/jk-rowling-what-is-a-terf-trans-exclusionary-radical-feminist-2020-6">the TERF who shall not be named</a>”</p><p><a href="https://www.thehpalliance.org/sites/default/files/2019-11/FF-Steven-Universe.pdf">Steven Universe and HPA</a></p><p> </p><p><a href="https://granger2020.org">Granger/Lovegood 2020 "campaign"</a></p><p><a href="https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Luna_Lovegood">Luna Lovegood</a></p><p> </p><p><a href="https://www.yesmagazine.org/social-justice/2020/04/24/how-black-women-are-reshaping-afrofuturism/">Afrofuturism</a></p><p><a href="http://www.alondranelson.com/books/afrofuturism">Alondra Nelson on Afrofuturism</a></p><p><a href="https://www.kit.ntnu.no/sites/www.kit.ntnu.no/files/Black%20to%20the%20Future%20(Dery)_0.pdf">Mark Dery on Afrofuturism</a></p><p><a href="https://www.ouropinionsarecorrect.com/shownotes/2019/7/27/episode-37-afro-futurism">Shawn Taylor on Our Opinions are Correct - the history of Afrofuturism</a></p><p><a href="https://thenerdsofcolor.org/2020/08/29/chadwick-boseman-was-a-source-of-light-in-my-work-my-classroom-and-my-understanding-of-a-black-hero/">Chadwick Boseman </a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutabaruka">Mutabaruka</a></p><p><a href="https://popcollab.org/black-panther-ignites-next-generation-fandom-movements/">Shawn Taylor's Essay on Black Panther</a></p><p><a href="https://medium.com/@stevenbarnes_87684/watching-mar-black-panther-3204f642530c">Steven Barnes on Black Panther </a></p><p><a href="https://www.bsam-art.com">Afro-speculative</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckminster_Fuller">Buckminster Fuller</a></p><p><a href="https://www.theblackscholar.org/on-black-panther-afrofuturism-and-astroblackness-a-conversation-with-reynaldo-anderson/">Astroblackness</a></p><p><a href="https://www.afrikaiswoke.com/afrifuturism-v-afrofuturism/">Afrifutrism</a></p><p><a href="https://theintercept.com/2018/03/25/the-radical-imagination-of-eve-ewing/">More thoughts on "the White CIA guy" in <i>Black Panther</i></a> - Eve Ewing on Intercepted</p><p>Shawn’s film Afrofuturist recommendation: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plhWisabXq4">Destination Planet Negro</a></p><p> </p><p>History of Fictional characters running for president:</p><p><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1980/09/05/doesnt-everybody-go-pogo/bd4d0ad6-565d-431b-a170-34ba2f4ce772/">Pogo, “I Go Pogo”</a></p><p><a href="https://www.theattic.space/home-page-blogs/2020/2/1/pat-paulsen-for-president">Pat Paulson</a></p><p><a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/ps-political-science-and-politics/article/archie-bunker-for-president-the-strange-career-of-a-political-icon-in-moynihans-america/89832DA6DDDC23CED78A2F3075D43B83">Archie Bunker</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bart_to_the_Future">Bart Simpson</a></p><p> </p><p><a href="https://annenberg.usc.edu/news/research-and-impact/rethinking-k-pop-industrys-silence-during-black-lives-matter-movement">Some basics on K-pop fan activism</a></p><p><a href="https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/john-lewis-quotes/">John Lewis “good trouble”</a></p><p><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/06/21/tiktok-kpop-trump-tulsa-rally/">K-pop fans’ sabotage of Tulsa Trump rally</a></p><p> </p><p>Check out these related past episodes:</p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-14-hye-jin-lee-and-cristina-visperas-on-the-global-fandom-for-k-pop/">Episode 14: Hye Jin Lee and Cristina Visperas on the Global Fandom for K-pop</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-22-ben-walker-and-wu-ming/">Episode 22: On Conspiracy Theories, with Benjamen Walker and Wu Ming</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-66-the-legacy-of-octavia-e-butler/">Episode 66: The Legacy of Octavia E. Butler with Damian E. Duffy, John Jennings, and Shelley Streeby</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-40-ebony-thomas/">Episode 40: Exploring the Dark Fantastic with Ebony Thomas</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-25-the-growing-hunger/">Episode 25: Why Do We Need More Critics of Color? with Jeff Yang & Mauricio Mota</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-26-reimagining-the-ecology-of-cultural-criticism-elizabeth-mendez-berry-and-carolina-a-miranda/">Episode 26: Reimagining the ecology of cultural criticism: Elizabeth Mendez Berry and Carolina A. Miranda</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-27-eric-deggans/">Episode 27: Critics of color: The added value of subtleties, with Eric Deggans</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-5-black-panther-comics-and-the-history-of-marvel/">Episode 5: Black Panther, comics and the history of Marvel</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/268/">Episode 6: Define American’s Julian Gomez on Black Panther and empowering fan activism</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/manouchka-labouba-on-black-panther-and-african-cinema-today/">Episode 8: Manouchka Labouba on Black Panther and African cinema today</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/nicholas-j-cull-on-black-panther-and-the-politics-of-popular-culture/">Episode 9: Nicholas J. Cull on Black Panther and the politics of popular culture</a></p><p><a href="https://www.npr.org/2019/08/03/747833473/my-signature-song-no-scrubs">Hear Karan Nevatia talking on NPR about his signature song, “No Scrubs” by TLC</a></p><p><a href="https://www.thehpalliance.org/donate">Donate to the Harry Potter Alliance</a> in memory of Karan Nevatia.</p><p>If you or someone you know needs someone to lean on for emotional support, call the <a href="https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/talk-to-someone-now/">Lifeline</a> at 1-800-273-8255. You can also <a href="https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/chat/">chat them online</a>.</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>!</p><p>Music:</p><p>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X. </p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a></p><p>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a></p><p>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0</p><p>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a></p><p>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a></p><p>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a></p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p><a href="https://youtu.be/VyfLER3Z0-Q">“No Scrubs” by TLC</a></p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2020 13:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Janae Philips, Shawn Taylor, Henry Jenkins, Colin Maclay)</author>
      <link>https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-69-fan-activism-janae-phillips-shawn-taylor/</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, we offer the second of an ongoing series of episodes focused on fandom and fandom studies. Last week, we explored fandom’s relationship with the creative industries. This week, we are looking at fan-based activism.</p><p>The episode features Janae Phillips, <a href="https://www.thehpalliance.org/janae_phillips">Director of Leadership and Education</a> for the <a href="https://www.thehpalliance.org/what_we_do">Harry Potter Alliance</a>, who oversees the <a href="https://granger2020.org/gla">Granger Leadership Academy</a> and the <a href="https://www.thehpalliance.org/resources">Fandom Forward</a> study guides project, among other things. <a href="https://www.shawntaylor.net/">Shawn Taylor</a> is one of the founders of <a href="https://thenerdsofcolor.org/">Nerds of Color</a> and a founding organizer of the Black Comix Arts Festival, a festival that highlights and promotes artists on the margins of the mainstream comic book industry. Shawn recently published a white paper, <a href="https://thenerdsofcolor.org/2020/06/04/we-the-fans-how-our-powers-can-change-the-world/">We The Fans: How Our Powers Can Change the World</a>, as a Senior Fellow for the <a href="https://popcollab.org/">Pop Culture Collaborative</a>. </p><p>We begin our discussion by trying to understand what we mean by fan activism and why fandom has emerged as an important driver of movements for social change. We consider why fandom might not only enable young people to enter the political process but also how fan activism becomes more sustainable because of the elements of joy, empathy, and passion it brings with it. We consider the darker sides of fan activism, including links between “toxic fandom” and the alt-right, but we also consider how fandom has become a site for anti-racism work. We share our experiences at the Granger Leadership Program this summer as an example of how the Harry Potter Alliance is helping to train young activists and the Granger/Lovegood campaign as a specific effort with the goal of registering and informing potential young voters. Finally, Shawn closes us out with some reflections on Afro-futurism as a philosophy and model for social action and the risks that it has become too cool, too fast.</p><p>This episode is dedicated to the memory of Karan Nevatia – a remarkable young producer, fan, activist, and professional.</p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper: </p><p> </p><p>Here are some articles Henry has written about the <a href="https://journal.transformativeworks.org/index.php/twc/article/view/305/259">Harry Potter Alliance’s model for social change </a>and its <a href="https://www.alternet.org/2017/03/harry-potter-activism-and-culture-jamming/">Not in Harry’s Name Campaign</a>. Henry’s research group had more to say about the Harry Potter Alliance in their book,<a href="https://nyupress.org/9781479899982/by-any-media-necessary/"> <i>By Any Media Necessary: The New Youth Activism</i></a><i>. </i></p><p> </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OT7MiwuN3I">This video about the Not in Harry’s Name campaign</a> illustrates how the HPA builds on the infrastructure fandom provides.</p><p> </p><p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/books/2013/nov/26/hunger-games-fans-harry-potter-alliance">HPA’s Hunger Games Campaign</a></p><p> </p><p>More of HPA’s Fandom Forward Resources:</p><p><a href="https://www.thehpalliance.org/sites/default/files/2019-11/Star_Wars_Toolkit.pdf">Star Wars</a></p><p><a href="https://www.thehpalliance.org/sites/default/files/2019-11/Marvel_Toolkit.pdf">Marvel Cinematic Universe</a></p><p><a href="https://www.thehpalliance.org/sites/default/files/2019-10/black_panther_toolkit.pdf">Black Panther</a></p><p><a href="https://www.thehpalliance.org/sites/default/files/2019-11/Night_Vale_Toolkit.pdf">Welcome to Night Vale</a></p><p><a href="https://www.thehpalliance.org/sites/default/files/2019-11/pokemon_toolkit.pdf">Pokemon</a></p><p><a href="https://www.thehpalliance.org/sites/default/files/2019-11/Doctor_Who_Toolkit.pdf">Doctor Who</a></p><p> </p><p><a href="https://www.vox.com/2016/6/7/11858680/fandom-glossary-fanfiction-explained">Fandom Jargon</a></p><p>What is a <a href="https://verysmartbrothas.theroot.com/am-i-a-blerd-are-you-a-blerd-what-makes-one-a-blerd-1822521421">Blerd</a>?</p><p><a href="https://theycallusbruce.libsyn.com">Asian-American fans </a></p><p> </p><p>Nerds of Color: <a href="https://thenerdsofcolor.org/2016/11/18/ghost-in-the-shell-and-the-complexity-of-cultural-appropriation/">Ghost in the Shell</a> controversy</p><p><a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1367877911422862">Racebending </a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Original_Series">Star Trek</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lensman_series">E.E. “Doc” Smith – Lensmen</a> Novels</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Three">The Book of Three</a>, Prydain, The Horned King</p><p><a href="https://www.thewrap.com/indiana-jones-and-the-raiders-of-the-lost-ark-historical-accuracies-and-inaccuracies/">Raiders of the Lost Ark – mythology</a></p><p> </p><p><a href="https://nypost.com/2014/02/14/save-our-show-10-tv-fan-campaigns-that-worked/">Save Our Show campaigns</a></p><p> </p><p><a href="https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/tv/story/2020-03-25/steven-universe-rebecca-sugar-lgbtq-legacy">What Steven Universe did for queer kids</a></p><p><a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/331758168_Worldbuilding_in_Role-Playing_Games">Worldbuilding in Role-Playing Games</a></p><p> </p><p>Translating fandom skills to digital organizing; fandom as a way to make activism sustainable:</p><p><a href="https://www.huckmag.com/perspectives/activism-2/joyful-resistance-emily-reynolds-extinction-rebellion-stansted-15/">Activist joy</a></p><p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/03/how-the-handmaids-tale-dressed-protests-across-the-world">The Handmaid’s Tale</a></p><p><a href="https://www.wired.com/2017/01/princess-leia-womens-march/">Princess Leia at Women’s March</a></p><p><a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/les-miserables-hong-kong-protests-do-you-hear-people-sing-musical-a9081401.html">Hong Kong students and Les Miserables</a></p><p><a href="https://www.reuters.com/article/us-thailand-protests/thai-school-hunger-games-salute-protests-spread-idUSKCN25E1AT">Three finger salute in Thailand</a></p><p><a href="https://www.journalofmedialiteracy.org/jenkins-article-2019">Trump and Popular Culture</a></p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/28/style/tiktok-teen-politics-gen-z.html">TiKTok  Protest</a></p><p><a href="https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/16/politics/genz-voters-2020-election/index.html">What’s different about youth activism</a></p><p> </p><p>Exclusive vs. Inclusive Fandoms:</p><p><a href="https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/41132-comicsgate-explained-bigots-milkshake-marvel-dc-gamergate">Comicsgate</a></p><p><a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/1742715018793744">Gamergate</a></p><p><a href="https://www.gamesradar.com/why-miles-morales-is-a-totally-different-spider-man-than-peter-parker/">Spider-Man </a></p><p><a href="https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/kelly-marie-tran-speaks-star-wars-fan-harassment/">Star Wars - Kelly Marie Tran</a></p><p><a href="https://obsession-inc.dreamwidth.org/82589.html">Transformative fandom/affirmational fandom</a></p><p><a href="https://medium.com/improv4/saying-yes-and-a-principle-for-improv-business-life-fd050bccf7e3">Yes And</a></p><p><a href="https://www.participations.org/Volume%2010/Issue%201/6%20Busse%2010.1.pdf">Fandom Hierarchies and Ownership</a></p><p> </p><p><a href="https://ghostbusters.fandom.com/wiki/Cross_the_Streams">Cross the Streams – Ghostbusters</a></p><p> </p><p><a href="https://www.mugglenet.com/2012/03/s-p-e-w-did-hermione-get-it-wrong/">Hermoine Granger - SPEW</a></p><p><a href="https://granger2020.org/gla">Granger Leadership Academy</a></p><p>“<a href="https://www.insider.com/jk-rowling-what-is-a-terf-trans-exclusionary-radical-feminist-2020-6">the TERF who shall not be named</a>”</p><p><a href="https://www.thehpalliance.org/sites/default/files/2019-11/FF-Steven-Universe.pdf">Steven Universe and HPA</a></p><p> </p><p><a href="https://granger2020.org">Granger/Lovegood 2020 "campaign"</a></p><p><a href="https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Luna_Lovegood">Luna Lovegood</a></p><p> </p><p><a href="https://www.yesmagazine.org/social-justice/2020/04/24/how-black-women-are-reshaping-afrofuturism/">Afrofuturism</a></p><p><a href="http://www.alondranelson.com/books/afrofuturism">Alondra Nelson on Afrofuturism</a></p><p><a href="https://www.kit.ntnu.no/sites/www.kit.ntnu.no/files/Black%20to%20the%20Future%20(Dery)_0.pdf">Mark Dery on Afrofuturism</a></p><p><a href="https://www.ouropinionsarecorrect.com/shownotes/2019/7/27/episode-37-afro-futurism">Shawn Taylor on Our Opinions are Correct - the history of Afrofuturism</a></p><p><a href="https://thenerdsofcolor.org/2020/08/29/chadwick-boseman-was-a-source-of-light-in-my-work-my-classroom-and-my-understanding-of-a-black-hero/">Chadwick Boseman </a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutabaruka">Mutabaruka</a></p><p><a href="https://popcollab.org/black-panther-ignites-next-generation-fandom-movements/">Shawn Taylor's Essay on Black Panther</a></p><p><a href="https://medium.com/@stevenbarnes_87684/watching-mar-black-panther-3204f642530c">Steven Barnes on Black Panther </a></p><p><a href="https://www.bsam-art.com">Afro-speculative</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckminster_Fuller">Buckminster Fuller</a></p><p><a href="https://www.theblackscholar.org/on-black-panther-afrofuturism-and-astroblackness-a-conversation-with-reynaldo-anderson/">Astroblackness</a></p><p><a href="https://www.afrikaiswoke.com/afrifuturism-v-afrofuturism/">Afrifutrism</a></p><p><a href="https://theintercept.com/2018/03/25/the-radical-imagination-of-eve-ewing/">More thoughts on "the White CIA guy" in <i>Black Panther</i></a> - Eve Ewing on Intercepted</p><p>Shawn’s film Afrofuturist recommendation: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plhWisabXq4">Destination Planet Negro</a></p><p> </p><p>History of Fictional characters running for president:</p><p><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1980/09/05/doesnt-everybody-go-pogo/bd4d0ad6-565d-431b-a170-34ba2f4ce772/">Pogo, “I Go Pogo”</a></p><p><a href="https://www.theattic.space/home-page-blogs/2020/2/1/pat-paulsen-for-president">Pat Paulson</a></p><p><a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/ps-political-science-and-politics/article/archie-bunker-for-president-the-strange-career-of-a-political-icon-in-moynihans-america/89832DA6DDDC23CED78A2F3075D43B83">Archie Bunker</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bart_to_the_Future">Bart Simpson</a></p><p> </p><p><a href="https://annenberg.usc.edu/news/research-and-impact/rethinking-k-pop-industrys-silence-during-black-lives-matter-movement">Some basics on K-pop fan activism</a></p><p><a href="https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/john-lewis-quotes/">John Lewis “good trouble”</a></p><p><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/06/21/tiktok-kpop-trump-tulsa-rally/">K-pop fans’ sabotage of Tulsa Trump rally</a></p><p> </p><p>Check out these related past episodes:</p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-14-hye-jin-lee-and-cristina-visperas-on-the-global-fandom-for-k-pop/">Episode 14: Hye Jin Lee and Cristina Visperas on the Global Fandom for K-pop</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-22-ben-walker-and-wu-ming/">Episode 22: On Conspiracy Theories, with Benjamen Walker and Wu Ming</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-66-the-legacy-of-octavia-e-butler/">Episode 66: The Legacy of Octavia E. Butler with Damian E. Duffy, John Jennings, and Shelley Streeby</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-40-ebony-thomas/">Episode 40: Exploring the Dark Fantastic with Ebony Thomas</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-25-the-growing-hunger/">Episode 25: Why Do We Need More Critics of Color? with Jeff Yang & Mauricio Mota</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-26-reimagining-the-ecology-of-cultural-criticism-elizabeth-mendez-berry-and-carolina-a-miranda/">Episode 26: Reimagining the ecology of cultural criticism: Elizabeth Mendez Berry and Carolina A. Miranda</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-27-eric-deggans/">Episode 27: Critics of color: The added value of subtleties, with Eric Deggans</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-5-black-panther-comics-and-the-history-of-marvel/">Episode 5: Black Panther, comics and the history of Marvel</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/268/">Episode 6: Define American’s Julian Gomez on Black Panther and empowering fan activism</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/manouchka-labouba-on-black-panther-and-african-cinema-today/">Episode 8: Manouchka Labouba on Black Panther and African cinema today</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/nicholas-j-cull-on-black-panther-and-the-politics-of-popular-culture/">Episode 9: Nicholas J. Cull on Black Panther and the politics of popular culture</a></p><p><a href="https://www.npr.org/2019/08/03/747833473/my-signature-song-no-scrubs">Hear Karan Nevatia talking on NPR about his signature song, “No Scrubs” by TLC</a></p><p><a href="https://www.thehpalliance.org/donate">Donate to the Harry Potter Alliance</a> in memory of Karan Nevatia.</p><p>If you or someone you know needs someone to lean on for emotional support, call the <a href="https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/talk-to-someone-now/">Lifeline</a> at 1-800-273-8255. You can also <a href="https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/chat/">chat them online</a>.</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>!</p><p>Music:</p><p>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X. </p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a></p><p>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a></p><p>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0</p><p>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a></p><p>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a></p><p>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a></p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p><a href="https://youtu.be/VyfLER3Z0-Q">“No Scrubs” by TLC</a></p>
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      <itunes:summary>This week, we are looking at fan-based activism with guests Janae Phillips, Director of Leadership and Education for the Harry Potter Alliance, and Shawn Taylor, a founder of Nerds of Color and the Black Comix Arts Festival. What do we mean by fan activism and how has fandom emerged as an important driver of movements for social change? How do the darker sides of fan activism, including links between “toxic fandom” and the alt-right, compare with how fandom has become a site for anti-racism work? From the Granger Leadership Academy to Afrofuturism, tune in for all this and more.

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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Welcome back to <i>How Do You Like It So Far?, </i>listeners! Today, we’re bringing you a time capsule of an episode: We recorded today’s conversation back in April, but it’s still as relevant as ever. Just don’t mind us thinking the coronavirus pandemic will be over in a couple of weeks. </p><p>The episode features <a href="https://rtf.utexas.edu/faculty/suzanne-scott">Suzanne Scott</a>, an assistant professor at the University of Texas Austin and author of <a href="https://nyupress.org/9781479879571/fake-geek-girls/"><i>Fake Geek Girls: Fandom, Gender, and the Convergence Culture Industry</i></a>. She is also the co-editor of <a href="https://www.routledge.com/The-Routledge-Companion-to-Media-Fandom/Click-Scott/p/book/9781138638921">The Routledge Companion to Media Fandom</a>, an anthology that brings together an international and interdisciplinary collection of nearly 60 established scholars to reflect on the state of the field and to point to new directions in fan studies research. Also on the episode is Susan Kresnicka, a cultural and business anthropologist and president and founder of cultural research firm <a href="https://www.kresnickaresearch.com/">Kresnicka Research and Insights</a> (see their <a href="https://www.kresnickaresearch.com/human-needs-model">Human Needs Model whitepaper</a>). Susan holds an M.A. in social anthropology from The University of Texas at Austin, sits on the professional advisory board for UCLA’s Master of Social Science program, and regularly speaks publicly on fandom, gender, morality, identity, and the value of anthropology in business. In the episode, Susan and Suzanne lead us through a discussion of how we define the word “fan” and who it applies to. Then, we discuss the relationship between fandom and industry: How do industry choices shape whose voices matter in fandom? How do companies strike the balance between capitalism and fan culture? Should fans be entitled to have a voice in new iterations of their favorite texts? Other topics Susan and Suzanne cover are the differences and similarities between sports fandom and entertainment fandom, how toxic fans and trolls affect fandom, and how fandom’s relationship to the industry is shifting as a result of COVID-19.   </p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper: </p><p>Susan’s yearlong study on fandom: <a href="https://dscout.com/people-nerds/susan-kresnicka-field-report">The Power of Fandom</a></p><p><a href="https://kuscholarworks.ku.edu/handle/1808/9757">Degrees of Fandom: Authenticity and Hierarchy</a></p><p><a href="https://journal.transformativeworks.org/index.php/twc/article/view/150">Suzanne’s study on repackaging fan culture and commercialization</a></p><p><a href="https://fanlore.org/wiki/Covid-19_and_Fandom">Covid-19 and Fandom</a></p><p><a href="https://www.newswise.com/articles/fandoms-and-virtual-engagement-in-a-time-of-social-distancing">Fandoms and virtual engagement in a time of social distancing</a></p><p><a href="https://www.academia.edu/491940/The_Dynamics_of_Fandom_Exploring_Fan_Communities_in_Online_Spaces">Exploring Fan Communities in Online Spaces</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/passthebrushchallenge/">Instagram #PassTheBrush challenge</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/disneyplus/status/1254772307941191686?s=20">Disney+ “May the 4th” Tweets</a></p><p><a href="https://disneytermsofuse.com/">Disney Terms of Use</a></p><p><a href="http://blog.damelionetwork.com/the-case-for-fandom-how-creating-fanocracy-drives-business-growth">“Fanocracy” and fandom of brands like Trader Joe’s, Southwest Airlines, etc.</a></p><p><a href="https://www.talenthouse.com/i/create-captivating-artwork-inspired-by-warner-bros-joker">“Joker” Fan Art contest</a></p><p><a href="https://www.upress.state.ms.us/Books/A/A-Portrait-of-the-Auteur-as-Fanboy">“A Portrait of the Auteur as Fanboy”</a></p><p><a href="https://www.universitypressscholarship.com/view/10.18574/nyu/9781479838608.001.0001/upso-9781479838608-chapter-006">Chapter 5 of Suzanne’s book (on Fan Auteurs)</a></p><p><a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-social-self/201507/the-psychology-sports-fandom">The Psychology of Sports Fandom</a></p><p><a href="http://medkult.upmedia.cz/2016/08/03/the-beginning-of-the-fan-movement-brief-history-of-the-first-fandoms/">The beginning of the fan movement: brief history of the first fandoms</a></p><p><a href="https://yorkspace.library.yorku.ca/xmlui/handle/10315/35003">Matinee girls as the first fans</a></p><p><a href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/17430430701388764">The Disjuncture between Sport Studies' and Pop Culture Studies' Perspectives on Fandom</a></p><p><a href="https://journal.transformativeworks.org/index.php/twc/article/view/699">African American acafandom and other strangers: New genealogies of fan studies</a></p><p><a href="http://mediavillage.com/article/esports-and-the-future-of-fandom/">Esports and the future of fandom</a></p><p><a href="https://www.vox.com/2016/6/8/11885562/tv-fans-the-100-fandom">“Creators of popular media are becoming increasingly wary of their fans. That’s a problem for everyone.”</a></p><p><a href="https://www.sagepub.com/sites/default/files/upm-binaries/50993_ch_8.pdf">Balance of Power Between Media and the Audience</a></p><p><a href="https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20200213-from-sonic-the-hedgehog-to-star-wars-are-fans-too-entitled">From Sonic the Hedgehog to Star Wars, are fans too entitled?</a></p><p><a href="https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/sonic-costs-fan-anger-1279482">Sonic and the costs of fan anger</a></p><p><a href="https://manga.tokyo/columns/what-is-fan-service-pleasing-the-anime-and-manga-fans/">What is Fan Service?</a></p><p><a href="https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2019/12/12/sonic-movie-redesign-vfx-studio-shuts-down-after-crunch-to-push-new-design-through/">Sonic Movie Redesign VFX Studio Shuts Down After ‘Extreme Hours’ to Wrap it Up</a></p><p>Toxic fandom: <a href="https://io9.gizmodo.com/when-fandom-is-the-problem-1835695031">“When Fandom is the Problem” </a></p><p><a href="https://www.participations.org/Volume%2015/Issue%201/21.pdf">On toxic fan practices: A round-table</a></p><p><a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/the-last-jedi-director-rian-johnson-got-death-threats-from-star-wars-fans-2018-4">Rian Johnson’s death threats after “The Last Jedi”</a></p><p><a href="https://archiveofourown.org/">Archive of Our Own</a> (fanfiction platform)</p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-16-emily-andras-maureen-ryan-and-louisa-stein-discuss-fans-producers-and-queer-baiting/">“How Do You Like It So Far?” Episode 16: Emily Andras, Maureen Ryan, and Louisa Stein Discuss Fans, Producers, and Queer Baiting</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with  <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin </a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far? </a>account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>!</p><p> </p><p>Music: “In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.</p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</p><p>Spaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</p><p>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0</p><p>Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</p><p>Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</p><p>Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
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      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Colin Maclay, Susan Kresnicka, Suzanne Scott, Henry Jenkins)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome back to <i>How Do You Like It So Far?, </i>listeners! Today, we’re bringing you a time capsule of an episode: We recorded today’s conversation back in April, but it’s still as relevant as ever. Just don’t mind us thinking the coronavirus pandemic will be over in a couple of weeks. </p><p>The episode features <a href="https://rtf.utexas.edu/faculty/suzanne-scott">Suzanne Scott</a>, an assistant professor at the University of Texas Austin and author of <a href="https://nyupress.org/9781479879571/fake-geek-girls/"><i>Fake Geek Girls: Fandom, Gender, and the Convergence Culture Industry</i></a>. She is also the co-editor of <a href="https://www.routledge.com/The-Routledge-Companion-to-Media-Fandom/Click-Scott/p/book/9781138638921">The Routledge Companion to Media Fandom</a>, an anthology that brings together an international and interdisciplinary collection of nearly 60 established scholars to reflect on the state of the field and to point to new directions in fan studies research. Also on the episode is Susan Kresnicka, a cultural and business anthropologist and president and founder of cultural research firm <a href="https://www.kresnickaresearch.com/">Kresnicka Research and Insights</a> (see their <a href="https://www.kresnickaresearch.com/human-needs-model">Human Needs Model whitepaper</a>). Susan holds an M.A. in social anthropology from The University of Texas at Austin, sits on the professional advisory board for UCLA’s Master of Social Science program, and regularly speaks publicly on fandom, gender, morality, identity, and the value of anthropology in business. In the episode, Susan and Suzanne lead us through a discussion of how we define the word “fan” and who it applies to. Then, we discuss the relationship between fandom and industry: How do industry choices shape whose voices matter in fandom? How do companies strike the balance between capitalism and fan culture? Should fans be entitled to have a voice in new iterations of their favorite texts? Other topics Susan and Suzanne cover are the differences and similarities between sports fandom and entertainment fandom, how toxic fans and trolls affect fandom, and how fandom’s relationship to the industry is shifting as a result of COVID-19.   </p><p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper: </p><p>Susan’s yearlong study on fandom: <a href="https://dscout.com/people-nerds/susan-kresnicka-field-report">The Power of Fandom</a></p><p><a href="https://kuscholarworks.ku.edu/handle/1808/9757">Degrees of Fandom: Authenticity and Hierarchy</a></p><p><a href="https://journal.transformativeworks.org/index.php/twc/article/view/150">Suzanne’s study on repackaging fan culture and commercialization</a></p><p><a href="https://fanlore.org/wiki/Covid-19_and_Fandom">Covid-19 and Fandom</a></p><p><a href="https://www.newswise.com/articles/fandoms-and-virtual-engagement-in-a-time-of-social-distancing">Fandoms and virtual engagement in a time of social distancing</a></p><p><a href="https://www.academia.edu/491940/The_Dynamics_of_Fandom_Exploring_Fan_Communities_in_Online_Spaces">Exploring Fan Communities in Online Spaces</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/passthebrushchallenge/">Instagram #PassTheBrush challenge</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/disneyplus/status/1254772307941191686?s=20">Disney+ “May the 4th” Tweets</a></p><p><a href="https://disneytermsofuse.com/">Disney Terms of Use</a></p><p><a href="http://blog.damelionetwork.com/the-case-for-fandom-how-creating-fanocracy-drives-business-growth">“Fanocracy” and fandom of brands like Trader Joe’s, Southwest Airlines, etc.</a></p><p><a href="https://www.talenthouse.com/i/create-captivating-artwork-inspired-by-warner-bros-joker">“Joker” Fan Art contest</a></p><p><a href="https://www.upress.state.ms.us/Books/A/A-Portrait-of-the-Auteur-as-Fanboy">“A Portrait of the Auteur as Fanboy”</a></p><p><a href="https://www.universitypressscholarship.com/view/10.18574/nyu/9781479838608.001.0001/upso-9781479838608-chapter-006">Chapter 5 of Suzanne’s book (on Fan Auteurs)</a></p><p><a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-social-self/201507/the-psychology-sports-fandom">The Psychology of Sports Fandom</a></p><p><a href="http://medkult.upmedia.cz/2016/08/03/the-beginning-of-the-fan-movement-brief-history-of-the-first-fandoms/">The beginning of the fan movement: brief history of the first fandoms</a></p><p><a href="https://yorkspace.library.yorku.ca/xmlui/handle/10315/35003">Matinee girls as the first fans</a></p><p><a href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/17430430701388764">The Disjuncture between Sport Studies' and Pop Culture Studies' Perspectives on Fandom</a></p><p><a href="https://journal.transformativeworks.org/index.php/twc/article/view/699">African American acafandom and other strangers: New genealogies of fan studies</a></p><p><a href="http://mediavillage.com/article/esports-and-the-future-of-fandom/">Esports and the future of fandom</a></p><p><a href="https://www.vox.com/2016/6/8/11885562/tv-fans-the-100-fandom">“Creators of popular media are becoming increasingly wary of their fans. That’s a problem for everyone.”</a></p><p><a href="https://www.sagepub.com/sites/default/files/upm-binaries/50993_ch_8.pdf">Balance of Power Between Media and the Audience</a></p><p><a href="https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20200213-from-sonic-the-hedgehog-to-star-wars-are-fans-too-entitled">From Sonic the Hedgehog to Star Wars, are fans too entitled?</a></p><p><a href="https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/sonic-costs-fan-anger-1279482">Sonic and the costs of fan anger</a></p><p><a href="https://manga.tokyo/columns/what-is-fan-service-pleasing-the-anime-and-manga-fans/">What is Fan Service?</a></p><p><a href="https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2019/12/12/sonic-movie-redesign-vfx-studio-shuts-down-after-crunch-to-push-new-design-through/">Sonic Movie Redesign VFX Studio Shuts Down After ‘Extreme Hours’ to Wrap it Up</a></p><p>Toxic fandom: <a href="https://io9.gizmodo.com/when-fandom-is-the-problem-1835695031">“When Fandom is the Problem” </a></p><p><a href="https://www.participations.org/Volume%2015/Issue%201/21.pdf">On toxic fan practices: A round-table</a></p><p><a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/the-last-jedi-director-rian-johnson-got-death-threats-from-star-wars-fans-2018-4">Rian Johnson’s death threats after “The Last Jedi”</a></p><p><a href="https://archiveofourown.org/">Archive of Our Own</a> (fanfiction platform)</p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-16-emily-andras-maureen-ryan-and-louisa-stein-discuss-fans-producers-and-queer-baiting/">“How Do You Like It So Far?” Episode 16: Emily Andras, Maureen Ryan, and Louisa Stein Discuss Fans, Producers, and Queer Baiting</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with  <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin </a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far? </a>account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>!</p><p> </p><p>Music: “In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.</p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</p><p>Spaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</p><p>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0</p><p>Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</p><p>Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</p><p>Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q<br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>Suzanne Scott, assistant professor at the University of Texas Austin and Susan Kresnicka, a cultural and business anthropologist, lead us through a discussion of how we define the word “fan” and who it applies to. Then, we discuss the relationship between fandom and industry: How do industry choices shape whose voices matter in fandom? How do companies strike the balance between capitalism and fan culture? Should fans be entitled to have a voice in new iterations of their favorite texts? Other topics Susan and Suzanne cover are the differences and similarities between sports fandom and entertainment fandom, how toxic fans and trolls affect fandom, and how fandom’s relationship to the industry is shifting as a result of COVID-19. </itunes:summary>
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      <title>Pandemic, Pedagogy, and Politics</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper: </p><p><br />Scholarship on Online Learning:</p><p>PACE:<a href="https://edpolicyinca.org/sites/default/files/2020-07/pb_hough_jul20.pdf"> What California’s Leaders Must Do Next to Advance Student Learning During COVID-19</a></p><p>Ed Week:<a href="https://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2020/04/10/the-disparities-in-remote-learning-under-coronavirus.html"> The Disparities in Remote Learning Under Coronavirus</a> (early in the pandemic, but similar trends)</p><p>McKinsey: <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/public-sector/our-insights/covid-19-and-student-learning-in-the-united-states-the-hurt-could-last-a-lifetime#">COVID-19 and student learning in the United States: The hurt could last a lifetime</a></p><p>Common Sense Media:<a href="https://www.commonsensemedia.org/kids-action/publications/closing-the-k-12-digital-divide-in-the-age-of-distance-learning#"> Closing the K–12 Digital Divide in the Age of Distance Learning</a></p><p>Ed Trust: <a href="https://west.edtrust.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2017/11/EducationTrust_2020_CACommitmentToEquity_Digital-Equity_V2.pdf">From Crisis to Opportunity: Recovering California’s Commitment to Equity</a></p><p><a href="https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/episodes/on-the-media-bizarro-world">"On The Media" podcast episode about higher education, remote learning and political conventions </a></p><p>Henry’s MIT Conference: <a href="http://web.mit.edu/m-I-t/conferences/classroom/former.html">We Wired the Classroom, Now What?</a></p><p><a href="https://www.macfound.org/programs/learning/">MacArthur Digital Media and Learning Initiative</a></p><p>Henry’s blog conversation on screen time: </p><p><a href="https://henryjenkins.squarespace.com/blog/2020/8/30/rethinking-screen-time-in-the-age-of-covid-19-part-one">Sangita Shresthova and Susan Kresnicka</a></p><p><a href="https://www.civicimaginationproject.org/toolkit">Civic Imagination Toolkit </a></p><p><a href="https://www.annenberglab.com/civic-media-fellowship/">Civic Media Fellowship Program</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-59-communities/">How Do You Like It So Far? Episode 59: On Communities with Colin and Henry</a></p><p>2020 Movies Available Online: </p><p><a href="https://www.hulu.com/movie/palm-springs-f70dfd4d-dbfb-46b8-abb3-136c841bba11">Palm Springs</a></p><p><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81045635">Da 5 Bloods</a></p><p><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81038963">The Old Guard</a></p><p><a href="https://a24films.com/films/first-cow">First Cow</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-58-aj-christian/">How Do You Like It So Far? Episode 58: Open TV with A.J. Christian</a></p><p><a href="https://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/ASMR">ASMR on Twitch</a></p><p><a href="https://www.sequesteraccess.com/">Sequester (game)</a></p><p><a href="http://www.interdisciplinaryitaly.org/convergence-culture-in-the-age-of-covid-19-a-fever-dream/">Henry’s article on Dziga Vertov</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/star-wars-cluster-episode-1-ahmed-best/">How Do You Like It So Far? Episode 1: Star Wars Cluster — Ahmed Best</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-34-power-and-pleasure-of-podcasting-part-three-amber-j-phillips-chenjerai-kumanyika-on-podcasting-as-a-vehicle-for-counterhistory/">How Do You Like It So Far? Episode 34: Power and Pleasure of Podcasting (part three): Amber J. Phillips & Chenjerai Kumanyika on podcasting as a vehicle for counterhistory</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RupZDqPJvY4">Kimberly Guilfoyle’s fiery Republican National Convention speech</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz7OMKJflgM">Sen. Amy Klobuchar's Full Speech At The 2020 DNC</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bps3m4eFTuE">Barack Obama’s Full Speech At The 2020 DNC</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMH_Aali19s">Michelle Obama Complete Remarks at 2020 Democratic National Convention</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9Zjj9DJMIA">Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez speaks at 2020 DNC</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnmQr0WfSvo">Joe Biden Acceptance Speech at 2020 Democratic National Convention</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhL9iFkBaus">President Donald Trump Full Acceptance Speech at 2020 Republican National Convention</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71ZYxpmSyls">Sen. Elizabeth Warren's Full Speech At The 2020 DNC</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG1vQnUrfvo">Sen. Bernie Sanders' Full Speech At The 2020 DNC</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqGJlDwqNcw">Gavin Newsom’s full speech at the 2020 Democratic National Convention</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhuP4t-s6lw">Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto’s full speech at the 2020 DNC</a> (“kitchens like this across America”)</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ9s4x_Mybs">Full Democratic roll call from Delegates across America</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ohv_9iHT7gk">RNC delegates conduct roll call vote in person</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/march-for-our-lives-and-the-census/">How Do You Like It So Far? Episode 7: March for Our Lives and the Census</a></p><p><a href="https://2020census.gov/en/news-events/operational-adjustments-covid-19.html">2020 Census Adjustments due to COVID-19</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/hansilowang?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor">Hansi Lo Wang’s Twitter feed (leading source of Census news)</a></p><p><a href="https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2020-08-31/census-trump-congress-apportionment">LA Times Editorial on Decennial Census</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-45-radicalized-with-cory-doctorow/">How Do You Like It So Far? Episode 45: “Radicalized” with Cory Doctorow </a></p><p><a href="https://craphound.com/radicalized-full/">Cory Doctorow’s “Radicalized”</a></p><p><a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250242334">Cory Doctorow’s “Masque of Red Death”</a></p><p><a href="https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/vox/the-ezra-klein-show/e/64250447">The Ezra Klein Show: An inspiring conversation about democracy with Danielle Allen</a></p><p>Henry’s recommendations:</p><p><a href="http://hbo.com/perry-mason">HBO's Perry Mason</a></p><p><a href="https://www.sho.com/penny-dreadful-city-of-angels">Showtime’s Penny Dreadful: City of Angels</a></p><p><a href="https://www.hbo.com/watchmen">HBO’s Watchmen</a></p><p>Chadwick Boseman films:</p><p><a href="https://www.marvel.com/movies/black-panther">Black Panther</a></p><p><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0453562/">42</a></p><p><a href="http://marshallmovie.com/">Marshall</a></p><p><a href="https://www.uphe.com/movies/get-on-up">Get on Up</a></p><p>HDYLISF? Episodes on Black Panther:</p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-5-black-panther-comics-and-the-history-of-marvel/">Episode 5: Black Panther, comics and the history of Marvel</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/268/">Episode 6: Define American’s Julian Gomez on Black Panther and empowering fan activism</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/manouchka-labouba-on-black-panther-and-african-cinema-today/">Episode 8: Manouchka Labouba on Black Panther and African cinema today</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/nicholas-j-cull-on-black-panther-and-the-politics-of-popular-culture/">Episode 9: Nicholas J. Cull on Black Panther and the politics of popular culture</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_podcast">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>!</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2020 10:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Colin Maclay, Henry Jenkins)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper: </p><p><br />Scholarship on Online Learning:</p><p>PACE:<a href="https://edpolicyinca.org/sites/default/files/2020-07/pb_hough_jul20.pdf"> What California’s Leaders Must Do Next to Advance Student Learning During COVID-19</a></p><p>Ed Week:<a href="https://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2020/04/10/the-disparities-in-remote-learning-under-coronavirus.html"> The Disparities in Remote Learning Under Coronavirus</a> (early in the pandemic, but similar trends)</p><p>McKinsey: <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/public-sector/our-insights/covid-19-and-student-learning-in-the-united-states-the-hurt-could-last-a-lifetime#">COVID-19 and student learning in the United States: The hurt could last a lifetime</a></p><p>Common Sense Media:<a href="https://www.commonsensemedia.org/kids-action/publications/closing-the-k-12-digital-divide-in-the-age-of-distance-learning#"> Closing the K–12 Digital Divide in the Age of Distance Learning</a></p><p>Ed Trust: <a href="https://west.edtrust.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2017/11/EducationTrust_2020_CACommitmentToEquity_Digital-Equity_V2.pdf">From Crisis to Opportunity: Recovering California’s Commitment to Equity</a></p><p><a href="https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/episodes/on-the-media-bizarro-world">"On The Media" podcast episode about higher education, remote learning and political conventions </a></p><p>Henry’s MIT Conference: <a href="http://web.mit.edu/m-I-t/conferences/classroom/former.html">We Wired the Classroom, Now What?</a></p><p><a href="https://www.macfound.org/programs/learning/">MacArthur Digital Media and Learning Initiative</a></p><p>Henry’s blog conversation on screen time: </p><p><a href="https://henryjenkins.squarespace.com/blog/2020/8/30/rethinking-screen-time-in-the-age-of-covid-19-part-one">Sangita Shresthova and Susan Kresnicka</a></p><p><a href="https://www.civicimaginationproject.org/toolkit">Civic Imagination Toolkit </a></p><p><a href="https://www.annenberglab.com/civic-media-fellowship/">Civic Media Fellowship Program</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-59-communities/">How Do You Like It So Far? Episode 59: On Communities with Colin and Henry</a></p><p>2020 Movies Available Online: </p><p><a href="https://www.hulu.com/movie/palm-springs-f70dfd4d-dbfb-46b8-abb3-136c841bba11">Palm Springs</a></p><p><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81045635">Da 5 Bloods</a></p><p><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81038963">The Old Guard</a></p><p><a href="https://a24films.com/films/first-cow">First Cow</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-58-aj-christian/">How Do You Like It So Far? Episode 58: Open TV with A.J. Christian</a></p><p><a href="https://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/ASMR">ASMR on Twitch</a></p><p><a href="https://www.sequesteraccess.com/">Sequester (game)</a></p><p><a href="http://www.interdisciplinaryitaly.org/convergence-culture-in-the-age-of-covid-19-a-fever-dream/">Henry’s article on Dziga Vertov</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/star-wars-cluster-episode-1-ahmed-best/">How Do You Like It So Far? Episode 1: Star Wars Cluster — Ahmed Best</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-34-power-and-pleasure-of-podcasting-part-three-amber-j-phillips-chenjerai-kumanyika-on-podcasting-as-a-vehicle-for-counterhistory/">How Do You Like It So Far? Episode 34: Power and Pleasure of Podcasting (part three): Amber J. Phillips & Chenjerai Kumanyika on podcasting as a vehicle for counterhistory</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RupZDqPJvY4">Kimberly Guilfoyle’s fiery Republican National Convention speech</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz7OMKJflgM">Sen. Amy Klobuchar's Full Speech At The 2020 DNC</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bps3m4eFTuE">Barack Obama’s Full Speech At The 2020 DNC</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMH_Aali19s">Michelle Obama Complete Remarks at 2020 Democratic National Convention</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9Zjj9DJMIA">Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez speaks at 2020 DNC</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnmQr0WfSvo">Joe Biden Acceptance Speech at 2020 Democratic National Convention</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhL9iFkBaus">President Donald Trump Full Acceptance Speech at 2020 Republican National Convention</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71ZYxpmSyls">Sen. Elizabeth Warren's Full Speech At The 2020 DNC</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG1vQnUrfvo">Sen. Bernie Sanders' Full Speech At The 2020 DNC</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqGJlDwqNcw">Gavin Newsom’s full speech at the 2020 Democratic National Convention</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhuP4t-s6lw">Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto’s full speech at the 2020 DNC</a> (“kitchens like this across America”)</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ9s4x_Mybs">Full Democratic roll call from Delegates across America</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ohv_9iHT7gk">RNC delegates conduct roll call vote in person</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/march-for-our-lives-and-the-census/">How Do You Like It So Far? Episode 7: March for Our Lives and the Census</a></p><p><a href="https://2020census.gov/en/news-events/operational-adjustments-covid-19.html">2020 Census Adjustments due to COVID-19</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/hansilowang?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor">Hansi Lo Wang’s Twitter feed (leading source of Census news)</a></p><p><a href="https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2020-08-31/census-trump-congress-apportionment">LA Times Editorial on Decennial Census</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-45-radicalized-with-cory-doctorow/">How Do You Like It So Far? Episode 45: “Radicalized” with Cory Doctorow </a></p><p><a href="https://craphound.com/radicalized-full/">Cory Doctorow’s “Radicalized”</a></p><p><a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250242334">Cory Doctorow’s “Masque of Red Death”</a></p><p><a href="https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/vox/the-ezra-klein-show/e/64250447">The Ezra Klein Show: An inspiring conversation about democracy with Danielle Allen</a></p><p>Henry’s recommendations:</p><p><a href="http://hbo.com/perry-mason">HBO's Perry Mason</a></p><p><a href="https://www.sho.com/penny-dreadful-city-of-angels">Showtime’s Penny Dreadful: City of Angels</a></p><p><a href="https://www.hbo.com/watchmen">HBO’s Watchmen</a></p><p>Chadwick Boseman films:</p><p><a href="https://www.marvel.com/movies/black-panther">Black Panther</a></p><p><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0453562/">42</a></p><p><a href="http://marshallmovie.com/">Marshall</a></p><p><a href="https://www.uphe.com/movies/get-on-up">Get on Up</a></p><p>HDYLISF? Episodes on Black Panther:</p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-5-black-panther-comics-and-the-history-of-marvel/">Episode 5: Black Panther, comics and the history of Marvel</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/268/">Episode 6: Define American’s Julian Gomez on Black Panther and empowering fan activism</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/manouchka-labouba-on-black-panther-and-african-cinema-today/">Episode 8: Manouchka Labouba on Black Panther and African cinema today</a></p><p><a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/nicholas-j-cull-on-black-panther-and-the-politics-of-popular-culture/">Episode 9: Nicholas J. Cull on Black Panther and the politics of popular culture</a></p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_podcast">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>!</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Pandemic, Pedagogy, and Politics</itunes:title>
      <itunes:author>Colin Maclay, Henry Jenkins</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>How Do You Like It So Far? is back! We’re excited to bring you a whole new slate of stimulating conversations with authors, activists, and scholars as we consider the role of pop culture during the pandemic this season. 

This week, Henry and Colin kick off the season with a look back at a wildly eventful summer away from the podcast, which featured not only the second wave of the COVID-19 pandemic, but also renewed movements against systemic racism in the wake of the killing of George Floyd, natural disasters wreaking havoc across the country, and a divisive political climate in the run-up to the 2020 presidential election. We examine the accessibility disparities that come with online learning and how pedagogy will function in the new environment, both for younger students and for higher education. We also discuss how online communities are beginning to emerge as primary gathering spaces, following the models of online gaming and fandom communities. Then, Colin and Henry discuss how the pandemic has affected the type of media being produced in 2020 — while cinema and television are less prevalent, lower-tech media have the potential to become more meaningful. We also consider the state of politics today as both parties have wrapped up their national conventions, and conflict continues to harm the U.S. Postal Service and Census Bureau counts. Finally, we explore what reconciliation might look like for a divided America, and what we need to do differently to ensure America doesn’t fail as an experiment of democracy. Check out the notes for more information on everything we talked about and Henry’s recommendations from the show!

Music: “In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X. 
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      <itunes:subtitle>How Do You Like It So Far? is back! We’re excited to bring you a whole new slate of stimulating conversations with authors, activists, and scholars as we consider the role of pop culture during the pandemic this season. 

This week, Henry and Colin kick off the season with a look back at a wildly eventful summer away from the podcast, which featured not only the second wave of the COVID-19 pandemic, but also renewed movements against systemic racism in the wake of the killing of George Floyd, natural disasters wreaking havoc across the country, and a divisive political climate in the run-up to the 2020 presidential election. We examine the accessibility disparities that come with online learning and how pedagogy will function in the new environment, both for younger students and for higher education. We also discuss how online communities are beginning to emerge as primary gathering spaces, following the models of online gaming and fandom communities. Then, Colin and Henry discuss how the pandemic has affected the type of media being produced in 2020 — while cinema and television are less prevalent, lower-tech media have the potential to become more meaningful. We also consider the state of politics today as both parties have wrapped up their national conventions, and conflict continues to harm the U.S. Postal Service and Census Bureau counts. Finally, we explore what reconciliation might look like for a divided America, and what we need to do differently to ensure America doesn’t fail as an experiment of democracy. Check out the notes for more information on everything we talked about and Henry’s recommendations from the show!

Music: “In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X. 
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Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental
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      <title>The Legacy of Octavia E. Butler with Damian Duffy, John Jennings and Shelley Streeby</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>See full show notes on our website: <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-66-the-legacy-of-octavia-e-butler/">https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/episode-66-the-legacy-of-octavia-e-butler/</a></p><p>This week (tears our FINAL week), we continue our series on how science fiction thinks about disaster, especially in our new normal surrounding COVID-19 and the global pandemic.  We examine the work and legacy of Octavia E. Butler, an exceptional science fiction writer who wrote about gender and sexuality in bold new ways.  Henry and Colin welcome Shelley Streeby, Professor of Literature and Ethnic Studies at UC - San Diego, Director of Clarion Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers Workshop, and author of The Future of Climate Change: World Making Through Science Fiction and Activism, John Jennings, Professor of Media and Cultural Studies and a Collaborating Faculty Member in the Department of Creative Writing at UC - Riverside, and Damian Duffy, a Cartoonist, Scholar, Lecturer, Writer, Curator, Teacher, #1 New York Times Bestseller Graphic Novelist.  Jennings and Duffy are collaborating on a project to adapt Butler’s Kindred and Parable of the Sower to graphic novels.  Listen in as Streeby, Duffy, Jennings, Henry and Colin discuss the ways Parable of the Sower can make us think of our current moment involving the coronavirus.  They also discuss in great detail Butler’s legacy and the influence she has had on the next crop of African-American science fiction writers.  Also, looking for something to read while stuck inside?  Check out the notes section for a list of Octavia E. Butler’s work, along with other great African-American writers!</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 8 May 2020 10:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description><![CDATA[Welcome to another quarant-week How Do You Like it So Far? team!  We are still super lucky to be able to stay safe with our friends and loved ones right now and hope you are all hanging in there.  We know it is a tough time and we appreciate you making this podcast a part of your quarantin-ing.  Basically, thank you for not socially-distancing yourselves from this podcast.  We are continuing our sequence on science fiction during the COVID-19 crisis.  This week, Colin and Henry welcome Bruce Sterling, author, futurist, and one of the founders of Cyberpunk movement along with his partner Jasmina Tešanović, Serbian activist, author, feminist, and filmmaker.  Sterling and Tešanović offer their perspective on what is going on in Belgrade, Serbia (where they are currently under a rigid lockdown) that perhaps can shed light on the pandemic.  Sterling brings (slightly terrifying) insight on speculative world-building in response to our current reality.  Sterling, well known for developing the concept of “design fiction,” discusses how companies and political organizations engage with world-building to anticipate problems and social change. Sterling dives deep into the potential policy changes that may happen, such as the rise of surveillance and technology companies becoming the new power brokers.  He describes how the current world order emerged post-9/11 as policy decisions reacted to perceived and anticipated threats and suggests that the pandemic is apt to bring new shifts in power.  Sterling provocatively suggests that when the pandemic ends, we may be living with its consequences but we will forget, as other generations have, the health threat itself.  Sterling discusses the role of Chinese soft power, specifically in the Balkan region, and suggests that China is gaining global influence even as the American Belle Epoque is ending.  Most surprisingly, Sterling dismantles the Cyberpunk ethos he helped create (mind blown right?) as science fiction writers are playing a different role in response to the changed environment in which they are working.  A silver lining Sterling does provide is an enthusiasm over Twitter (who would have thought?)!  Listen in as Sterling discusses a progression of pulp writers to contemporary ones like Cory Doctorow!  The list of those writers will be in the notes section, if you’re looking to expand your pandemic reading list.  ––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––

Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You
Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at
howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com.

Music:
“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.
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      <pubDate>Fri, 1 May 2020 10:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary>Welcome to another quarant-week How Do You Like it So Far? team!  We are still super lucky to be able to stay safe with our friends and loved ones right now and hope you are all hanging in there.  We know it is a tough time and we appreciate you making this podcast a part of your quarantin-ing.  Basically, thank you for not socially-distancing yourselves from this podcast.  We are continuing our sequence on science fiction during the COVID-19 crisis.  This week, Colin and Henry welcome Bruce Sterling, author, futurist, and one of the founders of Cyberpunk movement along with his partner Jasmina Tešanović, Serbian activist, author, feminist, and filmmaker.  Sterling and Tešanović offer their perspective on what is going on in Belgrade, Serbia (where they are currently under a rigid lockdown) that perhaps can shed light on the pandemic.  Sterling brings (slightly terrifying) insight on speculative world-building in response to our current reality.  Sterling, well known for developing the concept of “design fiction,” discusses how companies and political organizations engage with world-building to anticipate problems and social change. Sterling dives deep into the potential policy changes that may happen, such as the rise of surveillance and technology companies becoming the new power brokers.  He describes how the current world order emerged post-9/11 as policy decisions reacted to perceived and anticipated threats and suggests that the pandemic is apt to bring new shifts in power.  Sterling provocatively suggests that when the pandemic ends, we may be living with its consequences but we will forget, as other generations have, the health threat itself.  Sterling discusses the role of Chinese soft power, specifically in the Balkan region, and suggests that China is gaining global influence even as the American Belle Epoque is ending.  Most surprisingly, Sterling dismantles the Cyberpunk ethos he helped create (mind blown right?) as science fiction writers are playing a different role in response to the changed environment in which they are working.  A silver lining Sterling does provide is an enthusiasm over Twitter (who would have thought?)!  Listen in as Sterling discusses a progression of pulp writers to contemporary ones like Cory Doctorow!  The list of those writers will be in the notes section, if you’re looking to expand your pandemic reading list. </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Welcome to another quarant-week How Do You Like it So Far? team!  We are still super lucky to be able to stay safe with our friends and loved ones right now and hope you are all hanging in there.  We know it is a tough time and we appreciate you making this podcast a part of your quarantin-ing.  Basically, thank you for not socially-distancing yourselves from this podcast.  We are continuing our sequence on science fiction during the COVID-19 crisis.  This week, Colin and Henry welcome Bruce Sterling, author, futurist, and one of the founders of Cyberpunk movement along with his partner Jasmina Tešanović, Serbian activist, author, feminist, and filmmaker.  Sterling and Tešanović offer their perspective on what is going on in Belgrade, Serbia (where they are currently under a rigid lockdown) that perhaps can shed light on the pandemic.  Sterling brings (slightly terrifying) insight on speculative world-building in response to our current reality.  Sterling, well known for developing the concept of “design fiction,” discusses how companies and political organizations engage with world-building to anticipate problems and social change. Sterling dives deep into the potential policy changes that may happen, such as the rise of surveillance and technology companies becoming the new power brokers.  He describes how the current world order emerged post-9/11 as policy decisions reacted to perceived and anticipated threats and suggests that the pandemic is apt to bring new shifts in power.  Sterling provocatively suggests that when the pandemic ends, we may be living with its consequences but we will forget, as other generations have, the health threat itself.  Sterling discusses the role of Chinese soft power, specifically in the Balkan region, and suggests that China is gaining global influence even as the American Belle Epoque is ending.  Most surprisingly, Sterling dismantles the Cyberpunk ethos he helped create (mind blown right?) as science fiction writers are playing a different role in response to the changed environment in which they are working.  A silver lining Sterling does provide is an enthusiasm over Twitter (who would have thought?)!  Listen in as Sterling discusses a progression of pulp writers to contemporary ones like Cory Doctorow!  The list of those writers will be in the notes section, if you’re looking to expand your pandemic reading list. </itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[Thanks for joining us this week, How Do You Like it So Far? Crew!  This week, Colin and Henry welcome William O. Gardner, a Professor of Japanese at Swarthmore College whose work has looked at the response of Japanese popular culture to real world disasters such as the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.  Garder, who is releasing a new book called The Metabolist Imagination: Visions of the City in Postwar Japanese Architecture and Science Fiction, puts together architecture and science fiction.  He dives deep into the origins of architects in post-WWII Japan called The Metabolists.  Many of the environments they made are somewhat relatable to how we are living right now.  He also discusses how the visions of our “new normal” of deserted streets and people wearing masks is the embodiment of the tropes of apocalyptic speculative fiction.  Listen in as Gardner dives deep into how some Japanese Anime, Manga and book authors created scarily prescient visions of the future.  He also gives us some recommendations on what he’s reading right now!  Check out the notes section for those.    ––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––

Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You
Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at
howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com.

Music:
“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.
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Spaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats
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Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental
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      <pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2020 10:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description><![CDATA[Welcome to our third virtual episode How Do You Like it So Far? fans!  We are shocked we even remembered that since who even knows what day it is.  Satur-Thurs-Wednesday?  That sounds about right.  Firstly, we hope you are all staying inside and safe during such uncertain times.  Secondly, we’ve got a new episode for you all!  This week, Henry and Colin welcome Alex Rivera, Director of Sleep Dealer and The Infiltrators, a hybrid-documentary that blends together traditional documentary elements with scripted reenactments. Through The Infiltrators, he explores what happens when people put political pressure from the bottom up and as these individuals choose to disrupt history rather than line up with it.  Listen in as Rivera discusses his own origin story and how his work in border and immigration issues ranged from experimental and traditional documentaries, to traditional shorts and features to music videos and mockumentaries.  He also discusses his other works, specifically Sleep Dealer, and some thoughtful insights and suggestions for future filmmakers.   ––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––

Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You
Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at
howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com.

Music:
“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.
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Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental
Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship
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      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2020 10:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary>Welcome to our third virtual episode How Do You Like it So Far? fans!  We are shocked we even remembered that since who even knows what day it is.  Satur-Thurs-Wednesday?  That sounds about right.  Firstly, we hope you are all staying inside and safe during such uncertain times.  Secondly, we’ve got a new episode for you all!  This week, Henry and Colin welcome Alex Rivera, Director of Sleep Dealer and The Infiltrators, a hybrid-documentary that blends together traditional documentary elements with scripted reenactments. Through The Infiltrators, he explores what happens when people put political pressure from the bottom up and as these individuals choose to disrupt history rather than line up with it.  Listen in as Rivera discusses his own origin story and how his work in border and immigration issues ranged from experimental and traditional documentaries, to traditional shorts and features to music videos and mockumentaries.  He also discusses his other works, specifically Sleep Dealer, and some thoughtful insights and suggestions for future filmmakers.  </itunes:summary>
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      <description><![CDATA[This week we celebrate the launch of Henry’s new book, Comics and Stuff, with another installment of our series on comics.  We have Mimi Pond, author and artist of 2014 New York Times bestseller Over Easy and The Customer is Always Wrong and Carol Tyler, author and artist of You’ll Never Know (which was compiled into Soldier's Heart) and Fab Four Mania.  Both of these authors are discussed in Comics and Stuff. And the heart of the interview comes as they discuss here their relationship with the stuff they render in rich detail across their books. These two inspirational artists discuss their origin stories as comics creators and their involvement with some of the men who created the underground comics movement in the 1960s. They discuss what it meant to them to tell women’s stories of work and family life through their comics and how they took inspiration from the scrapbooking tradition. They open up about contemporary comics artists they think we should be reading, offering lots of great recs for comics readers.  Make sure to stay tuned in for the wrap-up since Henry gives readers a preview of Comics and Stuff and what he says there about today’s guests.  Looking for comic recommendations?  Check out our notes section! ––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––

Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You
Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at
howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com.

Music:
“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.
In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet
Spaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats
Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0
Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental
Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship
Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q
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      <pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2020 10:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary>This week we celebrate the launch of Henry’s new book, Comics and Stuff, with another installment of our series on comics.  We have Mimi Pond, author and artist of 2014 New York Times bestseller Over Easy and The Customer is Always Wrong and Carol Tyler, author and artist of You’ll Never Know (which was compiled into Soldier&apos;s Heart) and Fab Four Mania.  Both of these authors are discussed in Comics and Stuff. And the heart of the interview comes as they discuss here their relationship with the stuff they render in rich detail across their books. These two inspirational artists discuss their origin stories as comics creators and their involvement with some of the men who created the underground comics movement in the 1960s. They discuss what it meant to them to tell women’s stories of work and family life through their comics and how they took inspiration from the scrapbooking tradition. They open up about contemporary comics artists they think we should be reading, offering lots of great recs for comics readers.  Make sure to stay tuned in for the wrap-up since Henry gives readers a preview of Comics and Stuff and what he says there about today’s guests.  Looking for comic recommendations?  Check out our notes section!</itunes:summary>
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      <description><![CDATA[We hope you are hanging in there, How Do You Like it So Far? crew.  We want to thank you for turning to our podcast during such a difficult time in our lives.  This period of self-isolation and social distancing is unprecedented and we know how tough this is for a lot of people.  We appreciate your listenership and hope we are able to bring you a little something-something during this unique period.  With that being said, this is our first episode which was recorded completely remotely.  Our team is currently spread between LA and NYC (don’t worry we are all safe), so please bear with us as we figure out the kinks of recording a podcast across 2000 miles. 

This week, Colin and Henry speak to LA-based, legendary Korean food truck chef Roy Choi of Kogi and KCET’s Chief Content Officer Juan Devis about their one-of-a-kind food show Broken Bread, co-produced by Tastemade.  They discuss creating a food show that went beyond delivering recipes to people, but thought to introduce them to innovative, city-wide efforts in LA on food access, food deserts and more.  They talk about how the title Broken Bread is a play on the idiom to “break bread” to share a meal and solve problems.  Through Broken Bread, they are trying to tell stories that go behind popular attention-grabbing headlines and ones that resonate with them.  Listen in as Choi and Devis talk about their show’s evolution and give Colin and Henry a sneak peek at Season 2!   ––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––

Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You
Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at
howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com.

Music:
“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.
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Spaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats
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Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental
Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship
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      <pubDate>Fri, 3 Apr 2020 10:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary>We hope you are hanging in there, How Do You Like it So Far? crew.  We want to thank you for turning to our podcast during such a difficult time in our lives.  This period of self-isolation and social distancing is unprecedented and we know how tough this is for a lot of people.  We appreciate your listenership and hope we are able to bring you a little something-something during this unique period.  With that being said, this is our first episode which was recorded completely remotely.  Our team is currently spread between LA and NYC (don’t worry we are all safe), so please bear with us as we figure out the kinks of recording a podcast across 2000 miles. 

This week, Colin and Henry speak to LA-based, legendary Korean food truck chef Roy Choi of Kogi and KCET’s Chief Content Officer Juan Devis about their one-of-a-kind food show Broken Bread, co-produced by Tastemade.  They discuss creating a food show that went beyond delivering recipes to people, but thought to introduce them to innovative, city-wide efforts in LA on food access, food deserts and more.  They talk about how the title Broken Bread is a play on the idiom to “break bread” to share a meal and solve problems.  Through Broken Bread, they are trying to tell stories that go behind popular attention-grabbing headlines and ones that resonate with them.  Listen in as Choi and Devis talk about their show’s evolution and give Colin and Henry a sneak peek at Season 2!  </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>We hope you are hanging in there, How Do You Like it So Far? crew.  We want to thank you for turning to our podcast during such a difficult time in our lives.  This period of self-isolation and social distancing is unprecedented and we know how tough this is for a lot of people.  We appreciate your listenership and hope we are able to bring you a little something-something during this unique period.  With that being said, this is our first episode which was recorded completely remotely.  Our team is currently spread between LA and NYC (don’t worry we are all safe), so please bear with us as we figure out the kinks of recording a podcast across 2000 miles. 

This week, Colin and Henry speak to LA-based, legendary Korean food truck chef Roy Choi of Kogi and KCET’s Chief Content Officer Juan Devis about their one-of-a-kind food show Broken Bread, co-produced by Tastemade.  They discuss creating a food show that went beyond delivering recipes to people, but thought to introduce them to innovative, city-wide efforts in LA on food access, food deserts and more.  They talk about how the title Broken Bread is a play on the idiom to “break bread” to share a meal and solve problems.  Through Broken Bread, they are trying to tell stories that go behind popular attention-grabbing headlines and ones that resonate with them.  Listen in as Choi and Devis talk about their show’s evolution and give Colin and Henry a sneak peek at Season 2!  </itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[First off, we hope each and every one of you are staying safe, washing your hands, and keeping somewhat sane during the Coronavirus outbreak of 2020.  We are holding steady and continuing to record the podcast (remotely … so basically we don’t see each other except on computer screens, but thankfully technology has come in handy).  We recorded this one on March 10th before things really went down and USC became a remote campus (we miss the Media Center, but it is necessary for our team to stay away).  This week we bring you a special episode about The Peabody Awards!  Henry has been a juror since 2013 and invited several of his fellow “Peabuddies” to USC for a discussion about the importance of the awards and how they are different from the Emmy, Grammy or Academy Awards.  Henry’s “Peabuddies” are Jeffrey P. Jones, the Director of the Peabody Awards, Marcy Carsey, longtime television producer of shows like Roseanne and That 70’s Show, and Lorraine Ali, TV, Culture, and Media Critic at the LA Times.  Henry and Colin dive deep into the gravitas of the awards which recognize “stories that matter” through a mix of artistic achievement and social impact.  Listen in as Henry, Colin and the rest of the “Peabuddies” consider how race, industry backgrounds, and diversity of the judges can have an impact on The Peabody Awards.  They talk about how TV can pivot faster towards cultural movements which has created an exciting “firehose” of content.  Looking for podcasts, TV shows, and other things to binge during your period of self-isolation?  Check out the episode notes below for some suggestions!    
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Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You
Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at
howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com.

Music:
“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.
In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet
Spaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats
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Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental
Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship
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      <pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2020 10:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>First off, we hope each and every one of you are staying safe, washing your hands, and keeping somewhat sane during the Coronavirus outbreak of 2020.  We are holding steady and continuing to record the podcast (remotely … so basically we don’t see each other except on computer screens, but thankfully technology has come in handy).  We recorded this one on March 10th before things really went down and USC became a remote campus (we miss the Media Center, but it is necessary for our team to stay away).  This week we bring you a special episode about The Peabody Awards!  Henry has been a juror since 2013 and invited several of his fellow “Peabuddies” to USC for a discussion about the importance of the awards and how they are different from the Emmy, Grammy or Academy Awards.  Henry’s “Peabuddies” are Jeffrey P. Jones, the Director of the Peabody Awards, Marcy Carsey, longtime television producer of shows like Roseanne and That 70’s Show, and Lorraine Ali, TV, Culture, and Media Critic at the LA Times.  Henry and Colin dive deep into the gravitas of the awards which recognize “stories that matter” through a mix of artistic achievement and social impact.  Listen in as Henry, Colin and the rest of the “Peabuddies” consider how race, industry backgrounds, and diversity of the judges can have an impact on The Peabody Awards.  They talk about how TV can pivot faster towards cultural movements which has created an exciting “firehose” of content.  Looking for podcasts, TV shows, and other things to binge during your period of self-isolation?  Check out the episode notes below for some suggestions!    
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Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You
Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at
howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com.

Music:
“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.
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Spaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats
Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0
Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental
Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship
Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q
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      <pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2020 10:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Henry Jenkins, Colin Maclay)</author>
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      <itunes:summary>Oh, do we have a special episode for you How Do You Like it So Far? fans!  This week, Colin and Henry discuss communities and their presence in digital and physical spaces and use old How Do You Like it So Far? episodes as talking points!  We’ve made our very own podcast clip show!   Henry and Colin were intrigued about the conversation opened up by Howard Rheingold an Patricia G. Lange on virtual communities.  Through this springboard, they relate their own personal accounts of fandom and digital spaces that translate to physical spaces.  Listen in as Colin and Henry discuss online and offline communities through the vast collection of How Do You Like it So Far? episodes and the need to keep exploring these areas of gathering in the future.  Check out our notes section for links to the episodes mentioned in this podcast!    </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Oh, do we have a special episode for you How Do You Like it So Far? fans!  This week, Colin and Henry discuss communities and their presence in digital and physical spaces and use old How Do You Like it So Far? episodes as talking points!  We’ve made our very own podcast clip show!   Henry and Colin were intrigued about the conversation opened up by Howard Rheingold an Patricia G. Lange on virtual communities.  Through this springboard, they relate their own personal accounts of fandom and digital spaces that translate to physical spaces.  Listen in as Colin and Henry discuss online and offline communities through the vast collection of How Do You Like it So Far? episodes and the need to keep exploring these areas of gathering in the future.  Check out our notes section for links to the episodes mentioned in this podcast!    </itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[It’s time for another new one How Do You Like it So Far? folks!  Henry and Colin are joined this week by A.J. Christian, an Associate Professor of Communication at Northwestern University and Founder of OTV in Chicago.  He discusses the concept of Open TV and the origin story of the group.  He opens up about the ecosystem of TV and web production in Chicago and how that inspired him to start Open TV back in 2014.  He dives deep into the problematic structure of “pilot season” and how its archaic system used to be impossible to penetrate without being based in LA and represented by a manager or an agent.  Listen in as Christian breaks down the studio systems and how OTV is a revolutionary model for developing diverse and complex TV shows for a future we all want to live in.   ––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––

Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You
Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at
howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com.

Music:
“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.
In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet
Spaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats
Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0
Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental
Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship
Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q
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      <pubDate>Fri, 6 Mar 2020 11:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Colin Maclay, A.J. Christian, Henry Jenkins)</author>
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      <itunes:summary>It’s time for another new one How Do You Like it So Far? folks!  Henry and Colin are joined this week by A.J. Christian, an Associate Professor of Communication at Northwestern University and Founder of OTV in Chicago.  He discusses the concept of Open TV and the origin story of the group.  He opens up about the ecosystem of TV and web production in Chicago and how that inspired him to start Open TV back in 2014.  He dives deep into the problematic structure of “pilot season” and how its archaic system used to be impossible to penetrate without being based in LA and represented by a manager or an agent.  Listen in as Christian breaks down the studio systems and how OTV is a revolutionary model for developing diverse and complex TV shows for a future we all want to live in.  </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>It’s time for another new one How Do You Like it So Far? folks!  Henry and Colin are joined this week by A.J. Christian, an Associate Professor of Communication at Northwestern University and Founder of OTV in Chicago.  He discusses the concept of Open TV and the origin story of the group.  He opens up about the ecosystem of TV and web production in Chicago and how that inspired him to start Open TV back in 2014.  He dives deep into the problematic structure of “pilot season” and how its archaic system used to be impossible to penetrate without being based in LA and represented by a manager or an agent.  Listen in as Christian breaks down the studio systems and how OTV is a revolutionary model for developing diverse and complex TV shows for a future we all want to live in.  </itunes:subtitle>
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Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You
Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at
howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com.

Music:
“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.
In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet
Spaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats
Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0
Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental
Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship
Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q
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      <pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2020 11:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You
Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at
howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com.

Music:
“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.
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Spaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats
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      <pubDate>Fri, 21 Feb 2020 11:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You
Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at
howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com.

Music:
“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.
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Spaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats
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Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental
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      <pubDate>Fri, 14 Feb 2020 11:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary>Welcome to another week, How Do You Like it So Far? fans!  We have a very special episode in store for you all.  This week, Henry is on the other side of the … well it’s not the microphone hm, the … recording booth, table … well you get the point.  This week, Colin interviews Henry about his work surrounding civic imagination!  They are joined by their esteemed colleague Dr. Sangita Shresthova, the Director of Research of the Civic Paths Group at USC and an integral part of the Annenberg Innovation Lab’s Civic Media Fellowship.  They discuss their upcoming book Popular Culture in the Civic Imagination: Case Studies of Creative Social Change.  They dissect the components of civic imagination and how it can help us as people imagine a better world and a process of change.  Their work surrounding civic imagination has led them to ask questions such as, “How do we change our civic spaces with the possibility of a future?”  Listen in as Henry and Sangita discuss their work in starting with the visions of the future, could see possibilities between us and help solve problems.  They even discuss what people envisioned in 2016 and how identifying those paradoxes and tensions in the field might be usable for activists and storytellers to incite change.     </itunes:summary>
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      <description><![CDATA[Erica Rand, professor of Art and Visual Culture and of Gender and Sexuality Studies at Bates College.  She is author of: Barbie’s Queer Accessories, a study of the doll’s history and manufacture in relation to corporate and consumer meaning-making, The Ellis Island Snow Globe, a queer, anti-racist alternative tour of Ellis Island and the Statue of Liberty, and Red Nails Black Skates, a collection of short essays grounded in participant-observation research in adult figure skating.  Rand’s work spans the breadth of sexuality and material culture in today’s world.  Rand has taken her work in many directions, including into the world of figure skating!  Listen in as Rand reveals her decision to start figure skating in her 40’s and discusses the gender of skates and skating tights.    ––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––

Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You
Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at
howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com.

Music:
“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.
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Spaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats
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Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental
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Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q
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      <pubDate>Fri, 7 Feb 2020 11:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description><![CDATA[Here’s to another week and another episode How Do You Like it So Far? Fans!  We have got a very special guest for you this week - Scott McCloud, the author of Understanding Comics, Making Comics, and Reinventing Comics.  He met Henry at MIT ages ago and they have been friends ever since!  Join Colin and Henry as they discuss comic book fundamentals with McCloud such as “what are comics?” and the difference between graphic novels and comic books.  They also dive deep into the history of comics with McCloud (did you know that comics are hundreds of years old?!), the difference and confluence of American, Japanese and European comic styles, how the digital revolution is changing the comic book landscape.  McCloud reveals how the American comic scene had roots in vaudeville.  Artists such as Winsor McCay would incorporate a theatrical element and draw comic panels on stage where each panel was like a “theater box.”  Listen in as McCloud explains how comics take advantage of the composition of memory and how contemporary comics are experimenting with diverse styles and increasingly welcome to women and artists of color.  McCloud also predicts that soon female readership will reach critical point!  Also, looking for comic book recommendations?  Take a look in our show notes for some of the comics and cartoonists mentioned in this episode! ––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––

Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You
Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at
howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com.

Music:
“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.
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Spaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats
Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0
Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental
Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship
Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q
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      <pubDate>Fri, 31 Jan 2020 11:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description><![CDATA[Welcome to a new decade (we’re in the 20’s folks!) and another episode of How Do You Like it So Far?!  This week we have Akilah Hughes, a founding Civic Media Fellow at the USC Annenberg Innovation Lab, author of Obviously: Stories from My Timeline, and co-host of What a Day, Crooked Media’s first-ever daily news podcast that contextualizes the day’s news in a mere 15 to 20 minutes.  Debuting in October, 2019, What a Day keeps in line with Crooked Media’s ethos and give listeners actionable insights about what can be done such as online resources, petitions, and fundraising opportunities.  What a Day distills the distressing parts of the world through different comedic tactics.  Listen in as Hughes talks about the influence other female comedians like Tina Fey and Mindy Kaling have had on her work and how she started with making YouTube video after YouTube video after YouTube video (after YouTube video) before going viral.
 ––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––

Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You
Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at
howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com.

Music:
“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.
In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet
Spaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats
Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0
Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental
Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship
Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q
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      <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2020 11:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You
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howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com.

Music:
“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.
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Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You
Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at
howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com.

Music:
“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.
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      <pubDate>Fri, 13 Dec 2019 10:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You
Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at
howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com.

Music:
“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.
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Spaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats
Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0
Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental
Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship
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      <pubDate>Fri, 6 Dec 2019 10:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You
Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at
howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com.

Music:
“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.
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Spaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats
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      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Nov 2019 11:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You
Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at
howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com.

Music:
“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.
In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet
Spaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats
Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0
Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental
Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship
Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q
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      <pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2019 11:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You
Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at
howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com.

Music:
“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.
In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet  https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet
Spaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats
Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0
Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental
Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship
Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q
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      <pubDate>Fri, 8 Nov 2019 23:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 1 Nov 2019 10:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>View the episode notes on <a href="https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/">our website</a> for additional links and resources!</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 25 Oct 2019 12:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Colin Maclay, Henry Jenkins, Cory Doctorow)</author>
      <link>https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>View the episode notes on our website for additional links and resources!</p>
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      <itunes:summary>Welcome to another week, How Do You Like it So Far? crew!  Henry and Colin welcome science fiction writer, blogger, and policy advocate, Cory Doctorow.  His newest book, Radicalized, is a collection of four science fiction novellas:  Unauthorized Bread, Model Minority, Radicalized and Masque of Red Death.  Through social, technological and economic visions, each story paints a vivid picture of what America could look like all too near future.  Listen in as Doctorow breaks down the current (scary) state of technology by analyzing where we have been in the past and where we might go in the future if we do not imagine a new reality.  He even drops a hint on what his next book will be!  He even drops a hint on what his next book will be! 
    
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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2019 12:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Colin Maclay, Kishonna L. Gray, Henry Jenkins)</author>
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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Here’s to another week and another episode <i>How Do You Like it So Far</i>? fans! We have a two-part series for you where Colin and Henry welcome <a href="https://annenberg.usc.edu/communication/communication-phd/doctoral-students/lauren-levitt">Lauren Levitt</a>, a Ph.D. Candidate in Communications at USC Annenberg and a former student of Henry’s as a guest interviewer for a special sex workers and podcasting episode. In Part One, Lauren interviews <a href="https://twitter.com/siouxsieqmedia?lang=en">Siouxsie Q</a>, a sex worker, a policy advocate and organizer for the ACLU Southern California, and co-host of the podcast <a href="https://illrepute.libsyn.com/">Ill-Repute</a>, along with <a href="https://twitter.com/VCarlisle">Vanessa Carlisle</a>, a Professor of Queer Studies at California State University, Northridge and creator of the <a href="https://www.onthedresserpodcast.com/">On the Dresser podcast</a>. They unravel common misconceptions about sex work and the complicated relationship between feminism and the sex workers rights movement. They weigh in on the current policies, such as SESTA/FOSTA, and their attempt to dismantle the industry and endanger the safety of sex workers. In Part Two, Lauren speaks to <a href="https://twitter.com/kaytlinbailey?lang=en">Kaytlin Bailey</a>, the creator of <a href="https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/the-oldest-profession-podcast/the-oldest-profession">The Oldest Profession Podcast</a>, a <a href="https://www.kaytlinbailey.com/">stand up comic</a> and the <a href="https://decriminalizesex.work/about/team/kaytlin-bailey/">Director of Communications for Decriminalize Sex Work</a>. They discuss the difference between sex work and human trafficking and the law enforcement mindset of rescuing sex workers from their professions. They also examine the role of sex work in popular culture from HBO’s The Deuce TV show to the recent release of megahit Hustlers. Listen in as Lauren, Colin and Henry speak to these extraordinary women about their work and the importance of sex workers claiming their own narratives in popular culture.</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2019 12:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Colin Maclay, Siouxsie Q, Kaytlin Bailey, Vanessa Carlisle, Lauren Levitt, Henry Jenkins)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here’s to another week and another episode <i>How Do You Like it So Far</i>? fans! We have a two-part series for you where Colin and Henry welcome <a href="https://annenberg.usc.edu/communication/communication-phd/doctoral-students/lauren-levitt">Lauren Levitt</a>, a Ph.D. Candidate in Communications at USC Annenberg and a former student of Henry’s as a guest interviewer for a special sex workers and podcasting episode. In Part One, Lauren interviews <a href="https://twitter.com/siouxsieqmedia?lang=en">Siouxsie Q</a>, a sex worker, a policy advocate and organizer for the ACLU Southern California, and co-host of the podcast <a href="https://illrepute.libsyn.com/">Ill-Repute</a>, along with <a href="https://twitter.com/VCarlisle">Vanessa Carlisle</a>, a Professor of Queer Studies at California State University, Northridge and creator of the <a href="https://www.onthedresserpodcast.com/">On the Dresser podcast</a>. They unravel common misconceptions about sex work and the complicated relationship between feminism and the sex workers rights movement. They weigh in on the current policies, such as SESTA/FOSTA, and their attempt to dismantle the industry and endanger the safety of sex workers. In Part Two, Lauren speaks to <a href="https://twitter.com/kaytlinbailey?lang=en">Kaytlin Bailey</a>, the creator of <a href="https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/the-oldest-profession-podcast/the-oldest-profession">The Oldest Profession Podcast</a>, a <a href="https://www.kaytlinbailey.com/">stand up comic</a> and the <a href="https://decriminalizesex.work/about/team/kaytlin-bailey/">Director of Communications for Decriminalize Sex Work</a>. They discuss the difference between sex work and human trafficking and the law enforcement mindset of rescuing sex workers from their professions. They also examine the role of sex work in popular culture from HBO’s The Deuce TV show to the recent release of megahit Hustlers. Listen in as Lauren, Colin and Henry speak to these extraordinary women about their work and the importance of sex workers claiming their own narratives in popular culture.</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Episode 43: Sex Work and Podcasting: A Conversation with Vanessa Carlisle, Siouxsie Q and Kaytlin Bailey</itunes:title>
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      <description><![CDATA[This week, we have a special treat for you from Colin and Henry’s first ever recording from September 25, 2017!  In this “throwback” episode, we are joined by Peabody-Award-Winning storytellers and radio veterans-turned-podcasting heavyweights, Tina Antolini (Host and Producer of Gravy), Scott Carrier, (Writer and Producer of Home of the Brave) and Trey Kay (Curator and Producer of Us & Them).  Listen in as Antolini, Carrier and Kay explore the freedom that has fueled the explosion of niche subject matter podcasts that are currently available.   ––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––

Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You
Like It So Far? account! You can also email us at
howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com.

Music:
“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.
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      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Sep 2019 17:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 6 May 2019 17:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week we welcome <a href="https://scholar.gse.upenn.edu/thomas">Ebony Elizabeth Thomas</a>, author of the new book <em><a href="https://nyupress.org/9781479800650/">The Dark Fantastic: Race and the Imagination from Harry Potter to the Hunger Games</a></em>. She counters the deficit-framed language describing an achievement gap among youth of color by asserting that there is a corresponding, long-standing imagination gap – that lack of representation in children’s literature and media has left them unable to imagine themselves as the center of the story, in fantasy or in life. Progress is being made in media diversity and inclusion, yet Thomas argues, we’re not keeping pace in terms of priming the audience to accept these shifts. The internet is allowing children to connect with like-minded readers outside of their immediate community “bubbles,” participate in fan fiction and expand their interpretation of what they read. But do they have the resources they need to be able to read the world differently? What are the negative effects of such limited representations? Where will alternative fantasies come from? Thomas discussed here the debates that have sprung up around Black Panther and recent projects to bring alternative perspectives to historical narratives, concluding that it’s still imperative to create a dream space with and for minority youth. View the <a href="http://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/2019/05/06/episode-40-ebony-thomas/">episode notes on our website</a> for additional links and resources!</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 1 May 2019 22:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our guest this week is <a href="http://svelch.com/cv/">Jaroslav Švelch</a>, author of <a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/gaming-iron-curtain">Gaming the Iron Curtain: How Teenagers and Amateurs in Communist Czechoslovakia Claimed the Medium of Computer Games</a>, which recounts the early history (and his own experience) of gaming and home computer use in Czechoslovakia in the 1980s. In discussing this creator/maker culture, we note how both local materials and state-sponsored infrastructure were repurposed by these ingenious participatory communities, where playing computer games and programming them were completely intertwined. As we have seen with many other fan communities, what started as a hobby and shared interest gave rise to personal expression and then social change, as people used games to negotiate the state politics that they were not allowed to participate in. We also talk about the importance of documenting what seems like very recent history, when it is still possible to gather first-person accounts and community artifacts and present an alternative to a top-down or corporate record.</p>
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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2019 16:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2019 22:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode we discuss <em>lucha libre</em>, the popular Mexican form of professional wrestling. We are joined by Peatonito, an activist for pedestrians in Mexico City, who uses the persona of a wrestler to create spectacle as activism on the streets, such as jumping in front of cars. We also speak with Heather Levi, an assistant professor of Anthropology at Temple university, who researches professional wrestlers and professional wrestling in Mexico City. We ask: how is lucha a practice of staging contradictions? How does it comment on the political life of the audience, to bring them along to support a &quot;super-hero&quot; type persona? How have politics, performativity, lucha, etc. merged into each other? And also, how can the luchadores personas help to bring attention to, and increase affect and participation around, social issues outside of the arena?</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2019 11:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode we are joined by Kerri Hoffman, CEO of PRX (PRX, a distributor of public media content) and John Barth, Chief Content Editor of PRX. This is our fourth and last episode on the Power and Pleasure of Podcasting (with episodes 32, 33 and 34).  We begin by discussing the history of podcasting and public radio, and how it has always been a venture of affecting lives and not money-making. Yet, what makes podcasting special? Listeners often speak about authenticity of the maker, speaker or host as the main distinctive factor, but we are far from knowing more specifics. There is also the ability to connect with a few, yet more interested and dedicated, niche listeners. Even what is considered “good” content differs from more raw, authentic productions, to professionally put-together shows. Its main allure, however, continues to be its ability to be open and participatory. Nonetheless, we wonder, will it join the internet and other original participatory mediums in in spite of being open, still dominated by a few, big, key players? How do we continue encouraging people to create and share podcasts when they are not so easily distributed? Will search engines such as Google, who are not in the game yet, play a significant role on who can find and access podcasts?</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 3 Apr 2019 18:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Amber J. Phillips (aka the High Priestess of Black Joy), podcaster and Participatory Civic Media Fellow at USC, takes the reins to interview Chenjerai Kumanyika, Assistant Professor ofJournalism and Media Studies at Rutgers University, and host of Uncivil Podcast. Following our podcasting event at USC (see episodes 32 and 33), they speak about some differences of black voices, performativity, and expectations of &quot;authenticity&quot; in podcasting. We also discuss what is considered professionalism in radio, and where the definition of what radio should be emerged. How was the standard set, and who was excluded from public radio? How do black podcasters negotiate code-switching, in order to be &quot;inclusive&quot; of the wider public, while also being able to speak to their own communities? We delve into trying to bring marginalized stories to mainstream listeners. We get into how and why Chenjerai chose the stories he did for the Uncivil podcast: what are the questions that will help us understand history with the most clarity? Civil war stories for example, are focused on the larger narratives of battles and policies, but the marginalized stories do not get told because of a lack of imagination. We also talk about the word &quot;innovation&quot; and criteria for it, but how the word is being used by opposite communities.</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Mar 2019 16:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Henry Jenkins Colin Maclay)</author>
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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This is part 2 of our Power and Pleasure of Podcasting event at USC (episode 33), which included performances from our guests. In this episode, we have the Q&amp;A session that followed, where we were able to delve into the process of making and starting to podcast. To reiterate, we had Chenjerai Kumanyika (Uncivil), Davia Nelson and Nikki Silva (The Kitchen Sisters), Melinna Bobadilla and Brenda Gonzalez (Tamarindo), and Taz Ahmed and Zahra Noorbakhsh (#GoodMuslimBadMuslim).  Our guests discuss the craft of podcasting and share the stories of this bottom-up way of discussing the issues they tackle for their respective community. They share the difficulties of podcasting, such as its status as &quot;side project&quot; or unpaid labor, as well as the emotional labor of podcasting. We also discussed choosing names and talking to the public, the &quot;fear of Twitter&quot; and more.  Also, we see the variability of contexts from our guests: the decision of writing for themselves, owning their own content, as well being  part of collectives or working for larger radio companies.</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2019 19:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is part 2 of our Power and Pleasure of Podcasting event at USC (episode 33), which included performances from our guests. In this episode, we have the Q&amp;A session that followed, where we were able to delve into the process of making and starting to podcast. To reiterate, we had Chenjerai Kumanyika (Uncivil), Davia Nelson and Nikki Silva (The Kitchen Sisters), Melinna Bobadilla and Brenda Gonzalez (Tamarindo), and Taz Ahmed and Zahra Noorbakhsh (#GoodMuslimBadMuslim).  Our guests discuss the craft of podcasting and share the stories of this bottom-up way of discussing the issues they tackle for their respective community. They share the difficulties of podcasting, such as its status as &quot;side project&quot; or unpaid labor, as well as the emotional labor of podcasting. We also discussed choosing names and talking to the public, the &quot;fear of Twitter&quot; and more.  Also, we see the variability of contexts from our guests: the decision of writing for themselves, owning their own content, as well being  part of collectives or working for larger radio companies.</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2019 22:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 6 Mar 2019 05:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2019 17:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2019 02:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 6 Feb 2019 15:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 3 Dec 2018 23:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Henry Jenkins Colin Maclay)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In our third and final installment of the need for critics of color, Eric Deggans, NPR's first full-time TV critic and author of Race Baiter: How the Media Wields Dangerous Words to Divide a Nation, talks to Henry and Colin about his longtime trajectory in radio and print media. Our guest speaks about how his first encounter with white culture was through radio, and asserts that &quot;podcasting is radio for young people&quot; now. When starting he thought, how can we talk about culture in a unique way, of things that other people cannot see? In his case he thought not only about race, but also about other dimensions, such as being a musician. In terms of television, we talk about how critics of color are needed not only to understand the new shows that better represent minority culture, but also to make visible the prevalence of and default to white culture in general. He says that Luke Cage, for example, hit a few touchstones of growing up black in that time, creating a powerful feeling of nostalgia and understanding that he could not get, for example, with The Sopranos, which he enjoyed as an outsider.</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2018 22:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2018 01:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today is our first of three episodes [exploring why we all need] critics of color. Colin talks to Jeff Yang, an American writer, journalist, and business/media consultant who has written for The Wall Street Journal and CNN, and, Mauricio Mota, a producer of East Los High, an award-winning [Hulu] drama series that has earned five Emmy nominations for its realistic portrayal of Latinx high school students. We talk about the gatekeeping responsibility and power of the few critics of color when they are critiquing media coming from their own communities: They can break or make a show or movie. We [also] discuss their importance for unpacking the cultural context and nuance of movies such as Crazy Rich Asians and Coco  [within their fan community and for those encountering these more inclusive representations for the first time]. We also discuss how globalization should, and can,  [work in unexpected ways]: Coco did very well in China, for example. But, how do we move forward? “Everyone can be a critic” says Mota, but for a long time “we were not allowed to have taste in this town”.</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>To continue our thread on rumours and conspiracy theories, this week Colin discussed the 80th anniversary of the The War of the Worlds broadcast on CBS radio with media historian Nick Cull. Orson Welles' infamous radio drama showed the power of news media to convince populations about a fake event, but it also highlighted the rumours surrounding the broadcast: not everyone thought it was aliens invading, but Nazis, the Japanese etc. Cull explains how rumours reflect the underliying social and political tensions of the moment, and tying to the current moment, describes how rumours have always worked the same way: to explain, engage, undermine and entertain.</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 7 Nov 2018 14:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To continue our thread on rumours and conspiracy theories, this week Colin discussed the 80th anniversary of the The War of the Worlds broadcast on CBS radio with media historian Nick Cull. Orson Welles' infamous radio drama showed the power of news media to convince populations about a fake event, but it also highlighted the rumours surrounding the broadcast: not everyone thought it was aliens invading, but Nazis, the Japanese etc. Cull explains how rumours reflect the underliying social and political tensions of the moment, and tying to the current moment, describes how rumours have always worked the same way: to explain, engage, undermine and entertain.</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Why are younger people more likely to protest, and less likely to vote? This week, Henry talks with Naja Nielsen from Orb Media. They discuss how youth feels about their relationship with traditional politics, their tendency to focus on issues and not parties, and how they can often feel unwanted in current political systems. Nielsen also walks us through the shift - or need - to look at issues in a global perspective, and how news media can and should reflect it.</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2018 17:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week we talked about conspiracy theories with Wu Ming, the collective, whose books inspired one the main conspiracy theorists on the internet, and Benjamen Walker, whose podcast often focuses on conspiracy theories. We cover: The art of blurring fact and fiction, and non-fiction, discrediting gatekeepers, can we ever really debunk, the role of satire, the hunger for complexity,  pizzagate, the “deep state,” QAnon, and of course, president Trump.</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2018 04:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Henry Jenkins Colin Maclay)</author>
      <link>https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week we talked about conspiracy theories with Wu Ming, the collective, whose books inspired one the main conspiracy theorists on the internet, and Benjamen Walker, whose podcast often focuses on conspiracy theories. We cover: The art of blurring fact and fiction, and non-fiction, discrediting gatekeepers, can we ever really debunk, the role of satire, the hunger for complexity,  pizzagate, the “deep state,” QAnon, and of course, president Trump.</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Episode 21: Rohan Joshi from All India Bakchod on civic entertainment</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week we explore the role of comedy in civic participation within the Indian context. Rohan Joshi is part of the sketch comedy group All India Backhod, which tackles political and social issues on their YouTube channel. A notable example was their viral video “It’s your fault” that dealt with the issue of rape, focusing on the irony of victim-blaming. Joshi recently spoke at the &quot;The Past, Present and Future of Civic Entertainment in India&quot; a day-long event in Mumbai. We bring you some of his insights (courtesy of Godrej India Culture Lab) that day, on what Indian audiences could learn from Captain America on “when to stop being a good citizen, and become a good person.”</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 8 Oct 2018 10:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Henry Jenkins Colin Maclay)</author>
      <link>https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week we explore the role of comedy in civic participation within the Indian context. Rohan Joshi is part of the sketch comedy group All India Backhod, which tackles political and social issues on their YouTube channel. A notable example was their viral video “It’s your fault” that dealt with the issue of rape, focusing on the irony of victim-blaming. Joshi recently spoke at the &quot;The Past, Present and Future of Civic Entertainment in India&quot; a day-long event in Mumbai. We bring you some of his insights (courtesy of Godrej India Culture Lab) that day, on what Indian audiences could learn from Captain America on “when to stop being a good citizen, and become a good person.”</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we  get the chance to talk to Anushka Shah, who works as a researcher at the Center for Civic Media, MIT Media Lab. More recently, she has started a project called Civic Entertainment that explores the intersection of civic engagement with television, radio, and digital entertainment and film. This project researches the media effects of fiction  on thought and behavior change, and explores how methods of social change available to citizens can be best represented in entertainment media. It also investigates the representation of protest and activism in current popular culture. She also runs a production studio in Mumbai called Civic Studios that creates civic entertainment content for Indian audiences. Shah tells us about the inspiration she, and other Indians, have  gotten from popular media, and how she brought civic participation with entertainment together.</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2018 03:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Henry Jenkins Colin Maclay)</author>
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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Episode 19: Star Trek and actual space with Margaret Weitekamp</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Henry is currently a visiting scholar at  the Library of Congress in Washington DC, where he had the chance to speak about space with Margaret Weitekamp, curator of Space History department or the Smithsonian Air and Space museum. She curates the museum's social and cultural dimensions of spaceflight collection, which has more than 4,000 artifacts that include space memorabilia and space science fiction objects.  We talked about the relationship of imaginaries of science fiction with those of space planning, and the benefits of displaying them side by side in the museum.  We also discuss the link between the fandom of Star Trek  and the dreams of space travel,  we contextualize it within larger socio-cultural contexts, and also discuss the history of women in the space program.</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2018 02:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week Henry Jenkins talks to Diane Winston, professor of Communication and Journalism at USC, about religion and reality television. Are young people getting how to live their lives from reality TV? Contrary of reality TV as being a guilty pleasure, Winston's latest book talks about reality TV as the &quot;the lived religion of late capitalism&quot;.  Reality television tells stories that people feel identified with, or see as cautionary tales.  We talk about Survivor's latest season, (survival of the fittest, and its very &quot;hyper individualism that is so embedded in capitalism&quot;).</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2018 21:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 9 Sep 2018 00:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Episode 13: Katie Salen Tekinbaş and Kurt Squire on Ready Player One and Game Based Learning</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>University of California, Irvine professors Katie Salen Tekinbaş and Kurt Squire discuss Ready Player One and Game Based Learning.</p>
<p><em><strong>Bios:</strong></em></p>
<blockquote>
<p><a href="https://www.informatics.uci.edu/explore/faculty-profiles/katie-salen-tekinbas/">Professor Katie Salen Tekinbaş</a> works at the intersection of games,<br />
design and learning, bridging the gap between academia and industry to<br />
create practical, real-world platforms that better educate and empower<br />
the next generation.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.informatics.uci.edu/explore/faculty-profiles/kurt-squire/">Professor Kurt Squire</a> is fascinated by the potential computer games<br />
have for enriching young minds. Squire is determined to remove<br />
barriers that prevent young people from acquiring knowledge,<br />
connecting with each other and co-creating new vehicles for learning.</p>
</blockquote>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2018 21:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>University of California, Irvine professors Katie Salen Tekinbaş and Kurt Squire discuss Ready Player One and Game Based Learning.</p>
<p><em><strong>Bios:</strong></em></p>
<blockquote>
<p><a href="https://www.informatics.uci.edu/explore/faculty-profiles/katie-salen-tekinbas/">Professor Katie Salen Tekinbaş</a> works at the intersection of games,<br />
design and learning, bridging the gap between academia and industry to<br />
create practical, real-world platforms that better educate and empower<br />
the next generation.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.informatics.uci.edu/explore/faculty-profiles/kurt-squire/">Professor Kurt Squire</a> is fascinated by the potential computer games<br />
have for enriching young minds. Squire is determined to remove<br />
barriers that prevent young people from acquiring knowledge,<br />
connecting with each other and co-creating new vehicles for learning.</p>
</blockquote>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Episode 12: Ann Pendleton-Jullian Talks Worldbuilding</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Ann Pendleton-Jullian joins Henry and Colin for a wide-ranging discussion about worldbuilding, followed by a reflection from Henry and Colin.</p>
<p><strong>Bio:</strong></p>
<blockquote>
<p>Ann Pendleton-Jullian is an architect, writer, and educator whose work explores the interchange between culture, environment, and technology.</p>
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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 4 May 2018 22:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Henry Jenkins Colin Maclay)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann Pendleton-Jullian joins Henry and Colin for a wide-ranging discussion about worldbuilding, followed by a reflection from Henry and Colin.</p>
<p><strong>Bio:</strong></p>
<blockquote>
<p>Ann Pendleton-Jullian is an architect, writer, and educator whose work explores the interchange between culture, environment, and technology.</p>
</blockquote>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Alex McDowell joins Henry to discuss &quot;Ready Player One,&quot; production design for Steven Spielberg films, and world building.</p>
<p><em><strong><a href="http://worldbuilding.usc.edu/people/bio/alex-mcdowell/">Bio:</a></strong></em></p>
<blockquote>
<p>Alex McDowell RDI is an award-winning designer and storyteller working<br />
at the intersection of emergent technologies and experiential media.<br />
McDowell was a production designer with 30 years experience in feature<br />
films, working with directors David Fincher, Steven Spielberg, Terry<br />
Gilliam and Anthony Minghelia amongst others. He was the production<br />
designer for Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, Man of Steel, The<br />
Watchmen, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Fight Club and Minority<br />
Report. His production design work on Minority Report is considered<br />
seminal both for its vision of near future technology and its<br />
integration with people’s behavior, and is believed to have resulted<br />
in nearly 100 patents for new technologies.</p>
<p>He is now a Professor of Practice in Media Arts + Practice at USC<br />
School of Cinematic Arts, where he teaches world building.</p>
</blockquote>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2018 22:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Henry Jenkins Colin Maclay)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex McDowell joins Henry to discuss &quot;Ready Player One,&quot; production design for Steven Spielberg films, and world building.</p>
<p><em><strong><a href="http://worldbuilding.usc.edu/people/bio/alex-mcdowell/">Bio:</a></strong></em></p>
<blockquote>
<p>Alex McDowell RDI is an award-winning designer and storyteller working<br />
at the intersection of emergent technologies and experiential media.<br />
McDowell was a production designer with 30 years experience in feature<br />
films, working with directors David Fincher, Steven Spielberg, Terry<br />
Gilliam and Anthony Minghelia amongst others. He was the production<br />
designer for Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, Man of Steel, The<br />
Watchmen, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Fight Club and Minority<br />
Report. His production design work on Minority Report is considered<br />
seminal both for its vision of near future technology and its<br />
integration with people’s behavior, and is believed to have resulted<br />
in nearly 100 patents for new technologies.</p>
<p>He is now a Professor of Practice in Media Arts + Practice at USC<br />
School of Cinematic Arts, where he teaches world building.</p>
</blockquote>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Fresh off an afternoon viewing of “Ready Player One,” Colin and Nonny De La Peña discuss virtual reality and the implications of emerging technology on the future of storytelling. Note: This episode takes our usual &quot;informal conversation&quot; a step further with an out-of-studio recording setup.</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2018 20:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>annlab@usc.edu (Henry Jenkins Colin Maclay)</author>
      <link>https://www.howdoyoulikeitsofar.org/</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fresh off an afternoon viewing of “Ready Player One,” Colin and Nonny De La Peña discuss virtual reality and the implications of emerging technology on the future of storytelling. Note: This episode takes our usual &quot;informal conversation&quot; a step further with an out-of-studio recording setup.</p>
<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2018 21:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 9 Mar 2018 18:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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<p><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p><p>Share your thoughts via Twitter with <a href="https://twitter.com/henryjenkins">Henry</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/cmac?lang=en">Colin</a> and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hdylisf_pod">How Do You Like It So Far?</a> account! You can also email us at <a href="mailto:howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com">howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Music:<br>“In Time” by Dylan Emmett and “Spaceship” by Lesion X.<br>In Time (Instrumental) by Dylan Emmet&nbsp; <a href="https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet">https://soundcloud.com/dylanemmet</a><br>Spaceship by Lesion X <a href="https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats">https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats</a><br>Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0<br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental">https://bit.ly/in-time-instrumental</a><br>Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship">https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship</a><br>Music promoted by Audio Library <a href="https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q">https://youtu.be/AzYoVrMLa1Q</a><br>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 1 Mar 2018 19:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2018 20:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry, Colin and the How Do You
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howdoyoulikeitsofarpodcast@gmail.com.

Music:
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Spaceship by Lesion X https://soundcloud.com/lesionxbeats
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Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/lesion-x-spaceship
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