jo and bess have been doing exactly that for more than a decade and this year brought a season neither of them expected.

bess opens up about what it’s been like navigating breast cancer, the decisions that came with it, and the parts of the experience nobody really prepares you for - but some of the biggest parts of this conversation aren’t really about cancer at all.

they’re about friendship, showing up, what people actually need when life gets hard, and why sometimes the most helpful thing we can do is stop trying to fix everything.

also, bess needs everyone’s opinion about her boobs, so obviously we handled the important issues too 😂

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instead, she’s still figuring it out. and strangely, this birthday feels less like a reason to panic about that and more like a reason to question why we decided there was a deadline in the first place.

we’re talking about the endless list of things women are told we “should” be doing by a certain age - get married, have kids, make more money, eat cleaner, work out more, look younger, improve ourselves - and why jo is suddenly very tired of treating life like one giant self-improvement project.

there’s also the very real part of getting older where your brain is still convinced you’re 27 while the gray hairs, neck lines, and person looking back at you in the mirror would like a word.

plus, jo shares what seven months without alcohol has actually been like, why she’s still hopeful about having a baby at 46, what the last year taught her about the life she and taran are building, and why she’s starting to feel like maybe there isn’t one correct version of what her life is supposed to look like.

basically, we celebrated a birthday, ate an unreasonable amount of sugar, got a little mushy, and somehow ended up feeling hopeful about being exactly where we are.

are we growing up? absolutely not. 

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leslie opens up about the relationship she once thought was forever, what it took to finally walk away, and the years of overthinking, self-abandonment, and second-guessing that came with it.

we also talk about losing your voice inside a relationship, being scared of the unknown, starting a completely new career at 40, dating from a very different place now, and why sometimes the biggest fresh start begins when you stop asking everyone else what you should do and start trusting yourself.

if you’ve ever looked at your relationship, career, or entire life and thought, “i need a fresh start,” pull up a chair. you’re at the right table.

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for a long time, jo’s journey didn’t actually feel rushed.

there was hope, a lot of “let’s just enjoy trying,” some very questionable legs up the wall logic, and a belief that somehow she and Taran would figure out how their baby was supposed to get here.

then came the appointment where jo heard the word “infertile.”

and suddenly all of the noise she’d managed to tune out - age, percentages, timelines, IVF, donor eggs, biological clocks - got a whole lot louder.

we get into what that news did emotionally, the strange guilt that can come with feeling like your body is the reason it isn’t happening, what jo is thinking about donor eggs, and why she’s getting one more opinion before deciding which road she’s actually taking.

mostly, this is for anyone who has ever quietly wondered if they waited too long, felt broken by something their body wouldn’t do, or looked around and thought, “am i the only one going through this?”

you’re not.

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this week is a very real, slightly delirious check-in about what happens when we don't feel like ourselves and can't quite pinpoint when everything started going sideways.

there are abandoned routines, questionable life choices, a husband who absolutely got us sick, an attempted clean girl comeback that did not go according to plan, and Kovu silently judging the entire situation from under the sheets.

basically, if you've been having one of those weeks where you feel gross, off, and generally like you need to get it together, pull up a spot on the pink furry blanket. we're right there with you.

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somewhere between the shaking ankles, bruised knees, sitting in the back of class, and watching everyone else make it look suspiciously easy, the spiral became about something bigger than dance.

what happens when we remember being good at something, but the version of us showing up today can't just pick up exactly where we left off? and why is it so hard to give ourselves time to get good at something when everyone around us seems to already have it figured out?

if you've ever thought, "maybe i just suck at this," and immediately wanted to quit, you're in very good company.

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this week, we're talking about the kind of exhaustion that doesn't come from one big thing.

it's the emails. the errands. the workouts. the dishes. the calendar notifications. the fifty little things that somehow become one very heavy week.

we talk about the invisible mental load, why rest can feel strangely uncomfortable, and why feeling exhausted doesn't mean you're doing anything wrong.

because sometimes nothing falls apart. and somehow, we're still completely wiped.

if you've ever wondered why life feels so hard even when everything is technically okay, welcome to the group chat. you're probably not the only one.

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this week, we're talking about the spiral that starts with one thought.

one photo. one comment. one glance in the mirror. one scroll through instagram. somehow, that's all it takes for old insecurities to show back up like they never left.

we talk about body image, comparison, self-worth, body dysmorphia, and what it's like when healing doesn't happen in a straight line.

because maybe the hardest part isn't having the spiral. maybe it's believing you're the only one still having it.

if you've ever picked yourself apart and wondered why you can't just "get over it," welcome to the group chat. you're probably not the only one.

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this week, we're talking about waiting.

waiting for test results. waiting for a text back. waiting for the promotion. waiting until we lose the weight. waiting until life finally feels like it's supposed to.

somehow, we start treating our actual lives like the waiting room.

we talk about imaginary finish lines, why it's so easy to believe happiness is always one milestone away, and what happens when we stop postponing our lives until some future version of ourselves finally arrives.

if you've ever felt like you're waiting for your life to start, pull up a chair. you're probably not the only one.

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this week, we're talking about that feeling of looking around and thinking, "i thought i'd be further by now."

not because anyone actually handed us a checklist. but because somehow it still feels like everyone else got there first.

we talk about comparison, imaginary timelines, unexpected plot twists, and what happens when your life looks nothing like the one you planned.

this isn't a conversation about fixing ourselves. it's about saying the quiet part out loud and realizing we're probably not the only ones thinking it.

if you've ever compared your life to someone else's and wondered if you're falling behind, pull up a chair. you're in good company.

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currently spiraling is where we talk about the expectations we thought life would meet - and what happens when reality doesn't cooperate.

every week, we talk about the things that keep us up at night, live rent-free in our heads, or make us text our friends, "is anyone else feeling this?"

some weeks it's fertility. other weeks it's comparison, relationships, career pivots, grief, starting over, or just trying to figure out what's next.

if you've ever thought, "i thought i'd be further by now," you're in the right place.

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