https://simplecast.com Cavern of Secrets A show about extraordinary women, hosted by Lauren Mitchell. From Vocal Fry Studios. en Sat, 26 Oct 2019 18:56:21 +0000 Wed, 24 Mar 2021 17:34:36 +0000 https://cavern-of-secrets.simplecast.com Cavern of Secrets https://image.simplecastcdn.com/images/8dc3847d-f4b8-45f3-b3ad-5945dea82dde/4bc73d4a-2103-477a-afc6-90dae8692617/3000x3000/cavernofsecretsart2048.jpg?aid=rss_feed https://cavern-of-secrets.simplecast.com episodic A show about extraordinary women, hosted by Lauren Mitchell. From Vocal Fry Studios. Cavern of Secrets yes https://feeds.simplecast.com/Rt5Fh8zM women, feminism, careers, jobs, politics, sex, comedy, life, art, interview, canadian, music, 463738 Vocal Fry Studios katie@vocalfrystudios.com c3d11725-98d4-4749-99d1-ffab51a43df0 Featuring Haviah Mighty Haviah Mighty drops by the Cavern after a big win: She’s the winner of the 2019 Polaris Prize for the album, 13th floor. Lauren and Haviah get into how to work with a producer, writing for discomfort, and using your voice as an instrument. “My approach is to open up minds so that the ignorance won’t be so wilful.” 

Our favourite moments: “I’m talking about these themes that can constitute discomfort, depending on what the listener looks like. My intention when giving the information is for there to be a dialogue based on the information.” [4:30] 

“When you say ‘I don’t see color,’ you’re dismissing all of the people that do… My approach is to open up minds so that the ignorance won’t be so wilful” [7:05]

“I’m not DIY in the ‘I want to do everything myself way’; I’m DIY in the ‘I want my input to be considered way.” [10:19] 

“I was listening to the new Da Baby record…He has a cool energy.” [14:28] 

“You can pull inspiration from anywhere” [15:25] 

“I’m very into music. I have a great ear. I feel like I know enough about how things sound to know what notes I can’t hit…” [17:26] 

“I took one hip-hop class and I wasn’t even the best one! I just know that I don’t consider myself to be a dance so it’s funny when people are like, “You’re such a good dancer.” [18:55] 

“[My sisters] are just really talented people. Involving them just makes the most sense.” [20:00] 

“I don’t have to be as critical of being a good music because my standards are really high.” [25:08] 

“My competitiveness, my musicality? That’s kind of instilled.” [26:12] 

Haviah Mighty's 2019 tour is coming to Halifax (October 26), Mississauga (October 27), Edmonton (November 7), Calgary (November 8), and Brampton (November 30). Tour dates can be found on her site. 

CREDITS: Cavern of Secrets is hosted by Lauren Mitchell. Produced by Ellen Payne Smith & Katie Jensen, with assistance from Vicky Mochama and Sarah Daniel. 

]]> Sat, 26 Oct 2019 18:56:21 +0000 katie@vocalfrystudios.com (Vocal Fry Studios) https://cavern-of-secrets.simplecast.com/episodes/featuring-haviah-mighty-GueXT0ac Haviah Mighty drops by the Cavern after a big win: She’s the winner of the 2019 Polaris Prize for the album, 13th floor. Lauren and Haviah get into how to work with a producer, writing for discomfort, and using your voice as an instrument. “My approach is to open up minds so that the ignorance won’t be so wilful.” 

Our favourite moments: “I’m talking about these themes that can constitute discomfort, depending on what the listener looks like. My intention when giving the information is for there to be a dialogue based on the information.” [4:30] 

“When you say ‘I don’t see color,’ you’re dismissing all of the people that do… My approach is to open up minds so that the ignorance won’t be so wilful” [7:05]

“I’m not DIY in the ‘I want to do everything myself way’; I’m DIY in the ‘I want my input to be considered way.” [10:19] 

“I was listening to the new Da Baby record…He has a cool energy.” [14:28] 

“You can pull inspiration from anywhere” [15:25] 

“I’m very into music. I have a great ear. I feel like I know enough about how things sound to know what notes I can’t hit…” [17:26] 

“I took one hip-hop class and I wasn’t even the best one! I just know that I don’t consider myself to be a dance so it’s funny when people are like, “You’re such a good dancer.” [18:55] 

“[My sisters] are just really talented people. Involving them just makes the most sense.” [20:00] 

“I don’t have to be as critical of being a good music because my standards are really high.” [25:08] 

“My competitiveness, my musicality? That’s kind of instilled.” [26:12] 

Haviah Mighty's 2019 tour is coming to Halifax (October 26), Mississauga (October 27), Edmonton (November 7), Calgary (November 8), and Brampton (November 30). Tour dates can be found on her site. 

CREDITS: Cavern of Secrets is hosted by Lauren Mitchell. Produced by Ellen Payne Smith & Katie Jensen, with assistance from Vicky Mochama and Sarah Daniel. 

]]> Featuring Haviah Mighty Vocal Fry Studios 00:36:03 Haviah Mighty drops by the Cavern after a big win: She’s the winner of the 2019 Polaris Prize for the album, 13th floor. Lauren and Haviah get into how to work with a producer, writing for discomfort, and using your voice as an instrument. “My approach is to open up minds so that the ignorance won’t be so wilful.” Haviah Mighty drops by the Cavern after a big win: She’s the winner of the 2019 Polaris Prize for the album, 13th floor. Lauren and Haviah get into how to work with a producer, writing for discomfort, and using your voice as an instrument. “My approach is to open up minds so that the ignorance won’t be so wilful.” yes full 31 e6a3e64f-852a-4386-8e10-0a7d0509e1d0 Featuring Eden Robinson Author, funny woman and busy person Eden Robinson calls into the Cavern from Kitimat, British Columbia to talk nail polish, carting around family in a big car and the gift that menopause gives you. Eden’s books include Traplines, the Giller-nominated Son Of A Trickster, and Blood Sports. Her trilogy, the Trickster series, is becoming a miniseries for CBC and her novel, Monkey Beach, is becoming a film. “If you need stories, take the bus.” 

Our favourite moments: “Dad had Parkinson’s. He found that seal fat was very helpful. The cousins who hunted - in the beginning, they would bring us neat little packets of seal...but towards the end, they were just leaving, like, half a seal in a bucket.  [5:40] 

“He was always embarrassed that I wasn’t a lady. And I was always like, 'You taught me to buck wood and change oil. I don’t remember any tea parties.'" [7:00] 

“I find [that] if I try to write to an outline or if I write to a plan, my muse gets inhibited.” [14:14] 

“I was realizing how few years I have left if I’m writing a book about every five years. Okay, there are books I won’t be able to write.” [21:30] 

"I also don’t have a lot of anxiety about what people think about me. I remember being very concerned about that. And them menopause just wipes that out.” [22:40] 

CREDITS: Cavern of Secrets is hosted by Lauren Mitchell. Produced by Ellen Payne Smith & Katie Jensen, with assistance from Vicky Mochama and Sarah Daniel. 

]]> Fri, 25 Oct 2019 05:00:04 +0000 katie@vocalfrystudios.com (Vocal Fry Studios) https://cavern-of-secrets.simplecast.com/episodes/featuring-eden-robinson-bBAveF1J Author, funny woman and busy person Eden Robinson calls into the Cavern from Kitimat, British Columbia to talk nail polish, carting around family in a big car and the gift that menopause gives you. Eden’s books include Traplines, the Giller-nominated Son Of A Trickster, and Blood Sports. Her trilogy, the Trickster series, is becoming a miniseries for CBC and her novel, Monkey Beach, is becoming a film. “If you need stories, take the bus.” 

Our favourite moments: “Dad had Parkinson’s. He found that seal fat was very helpful. The cousins who hunted - in the beginning, they would bring us neat little packets of seal...but towards the end, they were just leaving, like, half a seal in a bucket.  [5:40] 

“He was always embarrassed that I wasn’t a lady. And I was always like, 'You taught me to buck wood and change oil. I don’t remember any tea parties.'" [7:00] 

“I find [that] if I try to write to an outline or if I write to a plan, my muse gets inhibited.” [14:14] 

“I was realizing how few years I have left if I’m writing a book about every five years. Okay, there are books I won’t be able to write.” [21:30] 

"I also don’t have a lot of anxiety about what people think about me. I remember being very concerned about that. And them menopause just wipes that out.” [22:40] 

CREDITS: Cavern of Secrets is hosted by Lauren Mitchell. Produced by Ellen Payne Smith & Katie Jensen, with assistance from Vicky Mochama and Sarah Daniel. 

]]> Featuring Eden Robinson Vocal Fry Studios 00:27:51 Author, funny woman and busy person Eden Robinson calls into the Cavern from Kitimat, British Columbia to talk nail polish, carting around family in a big car and the gift that menopause gives you. Eden’s books include Traplines, the Giller-nominated Son Of A Trickster, and Blood Sports. Her trilogy, the Trickster series, is becoming a miniseries for CBC and her novel, Monkey Beach, is becoming a film. “If you need stories, take the bus.” Author, funny woman and busy person Eden Robinson calls into the Cavern from Kitimat, British Columbia to talk nail polish, carting around family in a big car and the gift that menopause gives you. Eden’s books include Traplines, the Giller-nominated Son Of A Trickster, and Blood Sports. Her trilogy, the Trickster series, is becoming a miniseries for CBC and her novel, Monkey Beach, is becoming a film. “If you need stories, take the bus.” yes full 30 634c5b6d-9673-4db1-99da-dc0106dad220 Featuring Carly Lewis Carly Lewis, journalist, kind woman and spectacular human being, joins host Lauren Mitchell in the Cavern. Carly has written for the Globe and Mail, New York Magazine, the Atlantic, Hazlitt and more. She talks about the value of feeling isolated, getting away from your anger and making sure your parents drink water. “I feel like everybody has a little invisible suitcase with them and in that suitcase is their anger.” 

Our favourite moments: “You should strive to be the person you needed when you were younger.” [3:27] 

“I had to learn how to feel safe in myself. And that was a hard-fought lesson.” [7:40] 

“It was also really important to me to be a strong loner.” [8:45] 

“Anytime I have made a platform for myself that is based on anger or taking up space to be vocal about sexual assault or harassment or anything like that, I have left that space feeling tremendously guilty.” [9:20] 

“I feel like everybody has a little invisible suitcase with them and in that suitcase is their anger.” [11:17] 

“Now that I’ve gotten more powerful just by virtue of getting older, I’m less angry. Even though there’s so much to be angry about, but I’m not walking around the world furious in the way that I kind of used to be.” [12:35] 

This is when I learned to ask for forgiveness, not permission: When I asked my mom if i could sleep over in an orchard in Grimsby Ontario with a bunch of boys and my mom was, like, absolutely-the-fuck-not.” [15:35] 

“I’ve stopped thinking about happiness as a state or a promised land or a quest. I’ve started thinking about it as a fog that just kind of comes or goes away…” [22:30] 

“Something out there does not want me to have a stable place to live...Something out there wants me to get used to be transient.” [26:45] 

CREDITS: Cavern of Secrets is hosted by Lauren Mitchell. Produced by Ellen Payne Smith & Katie Jensen, with assistance from Vicky Mochama and Sarah Daniel. 

]]> Thu, 24 Oct 2019 04:00:02 +0000 katie@vocalfrystudios.com (Vocal Fry Studios) https://cavern-of-secrets.simplecast.com/episodes/29-featuring-carly-lewis-OJnORXrh Carly Lewis, journalist, kind woman and spectacular human being, joins host Lauren Mitchell in the Cavern. Carly has written for the Globe and Mail, New York Magazine, the Atlantic, Hazlitt and more. She talks about the value of feeling isolated, getting away from your anger and making sure your parents drink water. “I feel like everybody has a little invisible suitcase with them and in that suitcase is their anger.” 

Our favourite moments: “You should strive to be the person you needed when you were younger.” [3:27] 

“I had to learn how to feel safe in myself. And that was a hard-fought lesson.” [7:40] 

“It was also really important to me to be a strong loner.” [8:45] 

“Anytime I have made a platform for myself that is based on anger or taking up space to be vocal about sexual assault or harassment or anything like that, I have left that space feeling tremendously guilty.” [9:20] 

“I feel like everybody has a little invisible suitcase with them and in that suitcase is their anger.” [11:17] 

“Now that I’ve gotten more powerful just by virtue of getting older, I’m less angry. Even though there’s so much to be angry about, but I’m not walking around the world furious in the way that I kind of used to be.” [12:35] 

This is when I learned to ask for forgiveness, not permission: When I asked my mom if i could sleep over in an orchard in Grimsby Ontario with a bunch of boys and my mom was, like, absolutely-the-fuck-not.” [15:35] 

“I’ve stopped thinking about happiness as a state or a promised land or a quest. I’ve started thinking about it as a fog that just kind of comes or goes away…” [22:30] 

“Something out there does not want me to have a stable place to live...Something out there wants me to get used to be transient.” [26:45] 

CREDITS: Cavern of Secrets is hosted by Lauren Mitchell. Produced by Ellen Payne Smith & Katie Jensen, with assistance from Vicky Mochama and Sarah Daniel. 

]]> Featuring Carly Lewis Vocal Fry Studios 00:31:27 Carly Lewis, journalist, kind woman and spectacular human being, joins host Lauren Mitchell in the Cavern. Carly has written for the Globe and Mail, New York Magazine, the Atlantic, Hazlitt and more. She talks about the value of feeling isolated, getting away from your anger and making sure your parents drink water. “I feel like everybody has a little invisible suitcase with them and in that suitcase is their anger.” Carly Lewis, journalist, kind woman and spectacular human being, joins host Lauren Mitchell in the Cavern. Carly has written for the Globe and Mail, New York Magazine, the Atlantic, Hazlitt and more. She talks about the value of feeling isolated, getting away from your anger and making sure your parents drink water. “I feel like everybody has a little invisible suitcase with them and in that suitcase is their anger.” yes full 29 06c3881f-5f35-4e8e-9d8a-833cff2b7671 Featuring Georgia Webber Georgia Webber, writer and illustrator, comes to the Cavern of Secrets to talk about what it means when you can’t express yourself, learning to draw again, and allowing the possibility that someone will say ‘yes’ and help you. Georgia’s graphic memoir, Dumb, is about what it means to become voiceless and how it changes you. 

Our favourite moments: “If there’s something that calls for my voice to be raised at all in a really loud way, I can push it if I want to and I most of the time really want to. But it’s a bad idea.” [4:43] 

“I had always wanted to make comics but I didn’t feel like I was good enough to start. Which is a terrible trap to be caught in.” [5:34] 

I hit send. I woke up the next morning and I felt - god, I’m gonna sound like such an asshole right now - I felt the closest thing I can to enlightened.” [10:05] 

It’s much harder for us to accept something that changes constantly and it’s much harder for the wide broad us to accept complication” [14:55] 

“It’s also fascinating to collaborate with someone and have her voice at the centre of it but she can’t see what I’m doing. She’s exercising a massive amount of trust…” [17:00] 

“This idea of disability as a shift in health paradigm as the rest of the world to accept is something that I’m grappling with” [24:00] 

“I could see all the accommodations that were being made for people who had those different needs and being in that space and sharing it with them was not a detriment to my experience in any way” [28:05] 

CREDITS: Cavern of Secrets is hosted by Lauren Mitchell. Produced by Ellen Payne Smith & Katie Jensen, with assistance from Vicky Mochama and Sarah Daniel. 

]]> Wed, 23 Oct 2019 04:00:09 +0000 katie@vocalfrystudios.com (Vocal Fry Studios) https://cavern-of-secrets.simplecast.com/episodes/28-featuring-georgia-webber-8IH5pQkW Georgia Webber, writer and illustrator, comes to the Cavern of Secrets to talk about what it means when you can’t express yourself, learning to draw again, and allowing the possibility that someone will say ‘yes’ and help you. Georgia’s graphic memoir, Dumb, is about what it means to become voiceless and how it changes you. 

Our favourite moments: “If there’s something that calls for my voice to be raised at all in a really loud way, I can push it if I want to and I most of the time really want to. But it’s a bad idea.” [4:43] 

“I had always wanted to make comics but I didn’t feel like I was good enough to start. Which is a terrible trap to be caught in.” [5:34] 

I hit send. I woke up the next morning and I felt - god, I’m gonna sound like such an asshole right now - I felt the closest thing I can to enlightened.” [10:05] 

It’s much harder for us to accept something that changes constantly and it’s much harder for the wide broad us to accept complication” [14:55] 

“It’s also fascinating to collaborate with someone and have her voice at the centre of it but she can’t see what I’m doing. She’s exercising a massive amount of trust…” [17:00] 

“This idea of disability as a shift in health paradigm as the rest of the world to accept is something that I’m grappling with” [24:00] 

“I could see all the accommodations that were being made for people who had those different needs and being in that space and sharing it with them was not a detriment to my experience in any way” [28:05] 

CREDITS: Cavern of Secrets is hosted by Lauren Mitchell. Produced by Ellen Payne Smith & Katie Jensen, with assistance from Vicky Mochama and Sarah Daniel. 

]]> Featuring Georgia Webber Vocal Fry Studios 00:39:26 Georgia Webber, writer and illustrator, comes to the Cavern of Secrets to talk about what it means when you can’t express yourself, learning to draw again, and allowing the possibility that someone will say ‘yes’ and help you. Georgia’s graphic memoir, Dumb, is about what it means to become voiceless and how it changes you. Georgia Webber, writer and illustrator, comes to the Cavern of Secrets to talk about what it means when you can’t express yourself, learning to draw again, and allowing the possibility that someone will say ‘yes’ and help you. Georgia’s graphic memoir, Dumb, is about what it means to become voiceless and how it changes you. yes full 28 1f08888e-1899-443b-93ce-2cdc01567758 Featuring Sarah Hagi Sarah Hagi, writer and queen of Twitter @geeklylonglegs, comes to the Cavern of Secrets to talk about the Garfield restaurant, the Blackest cartoons and how to have fun (again) as a writer. “It was intended to be a joke piece where I was like, yeah, Bugs Bunny is black.” 

Our favourite moments: “In a lot of ways, editors only hit me up when it’s like ‘ooh, we need a little spice here’ which is annoying.” [9:55] 

The thing about when you make something your brand. And I don’t know how it happened but I associated myself with Garfield but it happened somehow. And to this day, people are always sending me something to do with Garfield. Like, people who do not know me. And it feels great But again, I’m like, “Oh no is this why I’m single?” [10:50] 

“I was walking down Bloor with my friend and I was really sad and crying, then I was like “What’s Garfield doing on that storefront?” [11:59] 

“I spent my whole life thinking, “Julia Stiles? She’s got RHYTHM. Only to realize now that she cannot dance” [21:37] 

“I didn’t go to my prom. I went to Dairy Queen.” [23:51] 

CREDITS: Cavern of Secrets is hosted by Lauren Mitchell. Produced by Ellen Payne Smith & Katie Jensen, with assistance from Vicky Mochama and Sarah Daniel. 

]]> Tue, 22 Oct 2019 04:00:33 +0000 katie@vocalfrystudios.com (Vocal Fry Studios) https://cavern-of-secrets.simplecast.com/episodes/27-featuring-sarah-hagi-po_LSDid Sarah Hagi, writer and queen of Twitter @geeklylonglegs, comes to the Cavern of Secrets to talk about the Garfield restaurant, the Blackest cartoons and how to have fun (again) as a writer. “It was intended to be a joke piece where I was like, yeah, Bugs Bunny is black.” 

Our favourite moments: “In a lot of ways, editors only hit me up when it’s like ‘ooh, we need a little spice here’ which is annoying.” [9:55] 

The thing about when you make something your brand. And I don’t know how it happened but I associated myself with Garfield but it happened somehow. And to this day, people are always sending me something to do with Garfield. Like, people who do not know me. And it feels great But again, I’m like, “Oh no is this why I’m single?” [10:50] 

“I was walking down Bloor with my friend and I was really sad and crying, then I was like “What’s Garfield doing on that storefront?” [11:59] 

“I spent my whole life thinking, “Julia Stiles? She’s got RHYTHM. Only to realize now that she cannot dance” [21:37] 

“I didn’t go to my prom. I went to Dairy Queen.” [23:51] 

CREDITS: Cavern of Secrets is hosted by Lauren Mitchell. Produced by Ellen Payne Smith & Katie Jensen, with assistance from Vicky Mochama and Sarah Daniel. 

]]> Featuring Sarah Hagi Vocal Fry Studios 00:33:13 Sarah Hagi, writer and queen of Twitter @geeklylonglegs, comes to the Cavern of Secrets to talk about the Garfield restaurant, the Blackest cartoons and how to have fun (again) as a writer. “It was intended to be a joke piece where I was like, yeah, Bugs Bunny is black.” Sarah Hagi, writer and queen of Twitter @geeklylonglegs, comes to the Cavern of Secrets to talk about the Garfield restaurant, the Blackest cartoons and how to have fun (again) as a writer. “It was intended to be a joke piece where I was like, yeah, Bugs Bunny is black.” woke, cartoons, identity, bugs bunny, writing, asmr yes full 27 8f12f63d-d6d2-452a-bd10-388c89fd63fb Featuring Monica Heisey Monica Heisey, author, comedian, TV writer and all around warm and funny individual joins host Lauren Mitchell in the Cavern to talk about the years that have passed. After a three year hiatus, Cavern of Secrets is back. Since then, Monica has become even more successful, gotten a divorce, and moved to London where she’s delighting the locals with her British accent. “I was more of a Greek mythology girl than a horse girl…” 

Our favourite moments: “My friend Lindsey [Weber] who is a host of and creator of Who Weekly says the best dirt - the worst dirt - is in a little-known podcast before [someone] got super famous.” [3:12] 

“I’m not sure confidence is real. I think it’s something we’re projecting onto other people…” [6:01] 

“Everyone’s trying and not sure they’re doing it right” [9:18] 

“One thing that [divorce] gave me was: I was so sad, I was just very heartbroken that it didn’t work. It led to this wonderful freedom. These petty occupations that have taken up so much of my time ... I care a lot less about things but in a way that feels good.” [10:18] 

“In a way, the very difficult emotional things was...very good?” [12:54] 

“I’m doing a lot of developing [tv shows] right now and production companies will say, we don’t want to limit you, you’re the creative. And in theory, that’s nice. I feel like that episode where school closes and Lisa Simpson is jumping around in front of Marge and saying “Grade me! Please! Grade Me” [15:00] 

“It’s such a disaster to say you’re writing a second book because everyone believes you.” [16:15] 

“On LUSH products, there's a picture on the bottom of the person who made the product and it was this man named Brandon and he had big ear spacers. Every time I was putting my thigh chafe cream on, I just pictured Brandon saying "Good for you. You do whatever's good for you."” [18:57] 

“All my favourite shows are British comedies so I just want to go over there and [say] “Please please, here I am!” [25:12] 

“They have a list of awards that you can win “or equivalent”. And I had to say that the Canadian Screen Awards is the Emmys for Canada. Just put it on your list! It’s real!” [26:55] 

CREDITS: Cavern of Secrets is hosted by Lauren Mitchell. Produced by Ellen Payne Smith & Katie Jensen, with assistance from Jay Cockburn, Vicky Mochama, and Sarah Daniel. 

]]> Mon, 21 Oct 2019 04:00:01 +0000 katie@vocalfrystudios.com (Vocal Fry Studios) https://cavern-of-secrets.simplecast.com/episodes/26-featuring-monica-heisey-7q7dybz7 Monica Heisey, author, comedian, TV writer and all around warm and funny individual joins host Lauren Mitchell in the Cavern to talk about the years that have passed. After a three year hiatus, Cavern of Secrets is back. Since then, Monica has become even more successful, gotten a divorce, and moved to London where she’s delighting the locals with her British accent. “I was more of a Greek mythology girl than a horse girl…” 

Our favourite moments: “My friend Lindsey [Weber] who is a host of and creator of Who Weekly says the best dirt - the worst dirt - is in a little-known podcast before [someone] got super famous.” [3:12] 

“I’m not sure confidence is real. I think it’s something we’re projecting onto other people…” [6:01] 

“Everyone’s trying and not sure they’re doing it right” [9:18] 

“One thing that [divorce] gave me was: I was so sad, I was just very heartbroken that it didn’t work. It led to this wonderful freedom. These petty occupations that have taken up so much of my time ... I care a lot less about things but in a way that feels good.” [10:18] 

“In a way, the very difficult emotional things was...very good?” [12:54] 

“I’m doing a lot of developing [tv shows] right now and production companies will say, we don’t want to limit you, you’re the creative. And in theory, that’s nice. I feel like that episode where school closes and Lisa Simpson is jumping around in front of Marge and saying “Grade me! Please! Grade Me” [15:00] 

“It’s such a disaster to say you’re writing a second book because everyone believes you.” [16:15] 

“On LUSH products, there's a picture on the bottom of the person who made the product and it was this man named Brandon and he had big ear spacers. Every time I was putting my thigh chafe cream on, I just pictured Brandon saying "Good for you. You do whatever's good for you."” [18:57] 

“All my favourite shows are British comedies so I just want to go over there and [say] “Please please, here I am!” [25:12] 

“They have a list of awards that you can win “or equivalent”. And I had to say that the Canadian Screen Awards is the Emmys for Canada. Just put it on your list! It’s real!” [26:55] 

CREDITS: Cavern of Secrets is hosted by Lauren Mitchell. Produced by Ellen Payne Smith & Katie Jensen, with assistance from Jay Cockburn, Vicky Mochama, and Sarah Daniel. 

]]> Featuring Monica Heisey Vocal Fry Studios 00:31:14 Monica Heisey, author, comedian, TV writer and all around warm and funny individual joins host Lauren Mitchell in the Cavern to talk about the years that have passed. After a three year hiatus, Cavern of Secrets is back. Since then, Monica has become even more successful, gotten a divorce, and moved to London where she’s delighting the locals with her British accent. “I was more of a Greek mythology girl than a horse girl…” Monica Heisey, author, comedian, TV writer and all around warm and funny individual joins host Lauren Mitchell in the Cavern to talk about the years that have passed. After a three year hiatus, Cavern of Secrets is back. Since then, Monica has become even more successful, gotten a divorce, and moved to London where she’s delighting the locals with her British accent. “I was more of a Greek mythology girl than a horse girl…” monica heisey, writing a book, gary and his demons, lauren mitchell, workin moms, divorce, moving to london, schitts creek, writing a second book yes full 26 90cf05865f967218fd70f1182b8fba68 Featuring Vicky Mochama The specific way men interview women (5:05), Rory Gilmore, journalist (17:17), and the Avril Lavigne riots of 2021 (48:27)

]]> Mon, 19 Dec 2016 22:33:12 +0000 katie@vocalfrystudios.com (Lauren Mitchell) https://cavern-of-secrets.simplecast.com/episodes/25-featuring-vicky-mochama-_j2NGmi4 The specific way men interview women (5:05), Rory Gilmore, journalist (17:17), and the Avril Lavigne riots of 2021 (48:27)

]]> Featuring Vicky Mochama Lauren Mitchell 00:55:34 The specific way men interview women (5:05), Rory Gilmore, journalist (17:17), and the Avril Lavigne riots of 2021 (48:27) The specific way men interview women (5:05), Rory Gilmore, journalist (17:17), and the Avril Lavigne riots of 2021 (48:27) podcast yes full 25 62c47884a2a58485d7715168a40e30b0 Featuring Courtney Skye Saving lives and fighting fires (13:58), protesting at Standing Rock (23:16), and riding in cars with cops (37:18)

]]> Mon, 21 Nov 2016 19:21:21 +0000 katie@vocalfrystudios.com (Lauren Mitchell) https://cavern-of-secrets.simplecast.com/episodes/23-featuring-courtney-skye-48xbSSpb Saving lives and fighting fires (13:58), protesting at Standing Rock (23:16), and riding in cars with cops (37:18)

]]> Featuring Courtney Skye Lauren Mitchell 00:55:49 Saving lives and fighting fires (13:58), protesting at Standing Rock (23:16), and riding in cars with cops (37:18) Saving lives and fighting fires (13:58), protesting at Standing Rock (23:16), and riding in cars with cops (37:18) yes full 23 f274fe0c5c495ce7bd19d924131ce794 Featuring Léonicka Valcius The glamorous life of an intern (8:20),the incredible whiteness of CanLit (22:15), and playing video games for the story (44:40).

]]> Mon, 31 Oct 2016 05:15:25 +0000 katie@vocalfrystudios.com (Lauren Mitchell) https://cavern-of-secrets.simplecast.com/episodes/22-featuring-leonicka-valcius-uGtpvEZc The glamorous life of an intern (8:20),the incredible whiteness of CanLit (22:15), and playing video games for the story (44:40).

]]> Featuring Léonicka Valcius Lauren Mitchell 00:55:14 The glamorous life of an intern (8:20),the incredible whiteness of CanLit (22:15), and playing video games for the story (44:40). The glamorous life of an intern (8:20),the incredible whiteness of CanLit (22:15), and playing video games for the story (44:40). yes full 22 08941a238c46853f8784fe5a4ff95013 Featuring Kyrell Grant The O.C. at the height of its O.C.-ness (7:00), is this bolognese feminist? (19:00), and where were you when A Seat at the Table dropped? (39:38)

]]> Wed, 19 Oct 2016 17:41:31 +0000 katie@vocalfrystudios.com (Lauren Mitchell) https://cavern-of-secrets.simplecast.com/episodes/21-featuring-kyrell-grant-RzJeCqsT The O.C. at the height of its O.C.-ness (7:00), is this bolognese feminist? (19:00), and where were you when A Seat at the Table dropped? (39:38)

]]> Featuring Kyrell Grant Lauren Mitchell 00:53:23 The O.C. at the height of its O.C.-ness (7:00), is this bolognese feminist? (19:00), and where were you when A Seat at the Table dropped? (39:38) The O.C. at the height of its O.C.-ness (7:00), is this bolognese feminist? (19:00), and where were you when A Seat at the Table dropped? (39:38) yes full 21 d02385b6821aadf56afe6cb3c6b8a7f8 Featuring Dawn Whitwell Flossing to live (7:27), shining in a shiny room (21:44), and the blessed life of a comedy writer (33:52).

]]> Sun, 2 Oct 2016 22:48:19 +0000 katie@vocalfrystudios.com (Lauren Mitchell) https://cavern-of-secrets.simplecast.com/episodes/20-featuring-dawn-whitwell-RD50yylS Flossing to live (7:27), shining in a shiny room (21:44), and the blessed life of a comedy writer (33:52).

]]> Featuring Dawn Whitwell Lauren Mitchell 00:48:06 Flossing to live (7:27), shining in a shiny room (21:44), and the blessed life of a comedy writer (33:52). Flossing to live (7:27), shining in a shiny room (21:44), and the blessed life of a comedy writer (33:52). yes full 20 c5e052fa5149128e9dca8cc12976a316 Featuring Namugenyi Kiwanuka Embracing your accents (9:12), little voices yelling things (14:25), and the high cost of telling your story (17:47).

]]> Sun, 18 Sep 2016 19:31:25 +0000 katie@vocalfrystudios.com (Lauren Mitchell) https://cavern-of-secrets.simplecast.com/episodes/19-featuring-namugenyi-kiwanuka-YVAXVc3r Embracing your accents (9:12), little voices yelling things (14:25), and the high cost of telling your story (17:47).

]]> Featuring Namugenyi Kiwanuka Lauren Mitchell 00:51:42 Embracing your accents (9:12), little voices yelling things (14:25), and the high cost of telling your story (17:47). Embracing your accents (9:12), little voices yelling things (14:25), and the high cost of telling your story (17:47). yes full 19 e2db2271952af3fe2f8e1c3b7a717b8e Featuring Lauren McKeon Branding yourself a feminist (06:37), defining care and ability (12:01), and pouring one out for Sum 41 (22:30)

]]> Tue, 6 Sep 2016 02:01:32 +0000 katie@vocalfrystudios.com (Lauren Mitchell) https://cavern-of-secrets.simplecast.com/episodes/18-featuring-lauren-mckeon-UsnpbUAV Branding yourself a feminist (06:37), defining care and ability (12:01), and pouring one out for Sum 41 (22:30)

]]> Featuring Lauren McKeon Lauren Mitchell 00:44:36 Branding yourself a feminist (06:37), defining care and ability (12:01), and pouring one out for Sum 41 (22:30) Branding yourself a feminist (06:37), defining care and ability (12:01), and pouring one out for Sum 41 (22:30) yes full 18 a659e862a3c85bb8740a3eaf5f5099c9 Featuring Cindy Li Terrible Calvin Klein ads (12:23), building safer raves (32:07) and how to get into Berghain (40:41)

]]> Mon, 22 Aug 2016 02:24:59 +0000 katie@vocalfrystudios.com (Lauren Mitchell) https://cavern-of-secrets.simplecast.com/episodes/17-featuring-cindy-li-2mvx4A9w Terrible Calvin Klein ads (12:23), building safer raves (32:07) and how to get into Berghain (40:41)

]]> Featuring Cindy Li Lauren Mitchell 00:53:32 Terrible Calvin Klein ads (12:23), building safer raves (32:07) and how to get into Berghain (40:41) Terrible Calvin Klein ads (12:23), building safer raves (32:07) and how to get into Berghain (40:41) yes full 17 9bc9faf819a8f249a96e277887b406e8 Featuring Anupa Mistry Does anyone need an MBA? (10:48) knowing what you want in your 30s (15:41) and slamming some kombucha and sinking into the ocean (34:02).

]]> Mon, 8 Aug 2016 04:45:02 +0000 katie@vocalfrystudios.com (Lauren Mitchell) https://cavern-of-secrets.simplecast.com/episodes/16-featuring-anupa-mistry-BkpWXpnz Does anyone need an MBA? (10:48) knowing what you want in your 30s (15:41) and slamming some kombucha and sinking into the ocean (34:02).

]]> Featuring Anupa Mistry Lauren Mitchell 00:51:13 Does anyone need an MBA? (10:48) knowing what you want in your 30s (15:41) and slamming some kombucha and sinking into the ocean (34:02). Does anyone need an MBA? (10:48) knowing what you want in your 30s (15:41) and slamming some kombucha and sinking into the ocean (34:02). yes full 16 d3ad59283065e5c6b5e34f8fb9dfaf49 Featuring Eternity Martis Living off of peanut butter and stale crackers (8:14), preserving Black history in Canada (13:47), and how we save our abolitionist museums (30:55)

]]> Mon, 11 Jul 2016 01:07:13 +0000 katie@vocalfrystudios.com (Lauren Mitchell) https://cavern-of-secrets.simplecast.com/episodes/15-featuring-eternity-martis-E59oCBLI Living off of peanut butter and stale crackers (8:14), preserving Black history in Canada (13:47), and how we save our abolitionist museums (30:55)

]]> Featuring Eternity Martis Lauren Mitchell 00:43:23 Living off of peanut butter and stale crackers (8:14), preserving Black history in Canada (13:47), and how we save our abolitionist museums (30:55) Living off of peanut butter and stale crackers (8:14), preserving Black history in Canada (13:47), and how we save our abolitionist museums (30:55) yes full 15 ba20a15557a9d68cea0fa7fb2f2f13a9 Featuring Mya Taylor A five on beauty (10:56), singing Deborah Cox (20:21), and why North Dakota is better than L.A. (27:30)

]]> Mon, 27 Jun 2016 03:04:17 +0000 katie@vocalfrystudios.com (Lauren Mitchell) https://cavern-of-secrets.simplecast.com/episodes/14-featuring-mya-taylor-i5yzkQ_b A five on beauty (10:56), singing Deborah Cox (20:21), and why North Dakota is better than L.A. (27:30)

]]> Featuring Mya Taylor Lauren Mitchell 00:38:05 A five on beauty (10:56), singing Deborah Cox (20:21), and why North Dakota is better than L.A. (27:30) A five on beauty (10:56), singing Deborah Cox (20:21), and why North Dakota is better than L.A. (27:30) podcast yes full 14 f05e4a069a316b3ff376e1c03d5b657e Featuring Yaa Gyasi The public life of a book (6:40), the song of a lapsed Christian (21:57), and not getting salty about your partner’s edits (30:10).

]]> Mon, 13 Jun 2016 03:38:33 +0000 katie@vocalfrystudios.com (Lauren Mitchell) https://cavern-of-secrets.simplecast.com/episodes/13-featuring-yaa-gyasi-AwKc001G The public life of a book (6:40), the song of a lapsed Christian (21:57), and not getting salty about your partner’s edits (30:10).

]]> Featuring Yaa Gyasi Lauren Mitchell 00:37:30 The public life of a book (6:40), the song of a lapsed Christian (21:57), and not getting salty about your partner’s edits (30:10). The public life of a book (6:40), the song of a lapsed Christian (21:57), and not getting salty about your partner’s edits (30:10). yes full 13 2fd739ad32071d4fcad6e28425ae23b7 Featuring Cheryl Strayed The business of making your book a film (5:36), when adaptations aren’t (14:40), and why we need stories (24:45).

]]> Mon, 16 May 2016 01:10:29 +0000 katie@vocalfrystudios.com (Lauren Mitchell) https://cavern-of-secrets.simplecast.com/episodes/11-featuring-cheryl-strayed-_iRQRUOf The business of making your book a film (5:36), when adaptations aren’t (14:40), and why we need stories (24:45).

]]> Featuring Cheryl Strayed Lauren Mitchell 00:34:04 The business of making your book a film (5:36), when adaptations aren’t (14:40), and why we need stories (24:45). The business of making your book a film (5:36), when adaptations aren’t (14:40), and why we need stories (24:45). yes full 11 e7e8c2dd1a4cb0af413de60fdc47f7c7 Kyrell Grant Returns Lemonade and intergenerational trauma (1:41), building a life in Drake’s jacket (14:04), and the saddest Reddit relationship post (22:36)

]]> Mon, 2 May 2016 03:40:57 +0000 katie@vocalfrystudios.com (Lauren Mitchell) https://cavern-of-secrets.simplecast.com/episodes/10-kyrell-grant-returns-TUxPFfUU Lemonade and intergenerational trauma (1:41), building a life in Drake’s jacket (14:04), and the saddest Reddit relationship post (22:36)

]]> Kyrell Grant Returns Lauren Mitchell 00:32:18 Lemonade and intergenerational trauma (1:41), building a life in Drake’s jacket (14:04), and the saddest Reddit relationship post (22:36) Lemonade and intergenerational trauma (1:41), building a life in Drake’s jacket (14:04), and the saddest Reddit relationship post (22:36) yes full 10 50b1504aa2c88e78939157f3866f5e60 Featuring Carmen Aguirre Performing within the Chilean resistance (6:32), the pull of revolutionary love (19:53), and extremely fascist great aunts (31:52).

]]> Mon, 18 Apr 2016 02:31:57 +0000 katie@vocalfrystudios.com (Lauren Mitchell) https://cavern-of-secrets.simplecast.com/episodes/9-featuring-carmen-aguirre-ubBsb_fq Performing within the Chilean resistance (6:32), the pull of revolutionary love (19:53), and extremely fascist great aunts (31:52).

]]> Featuring Carmen Aguirre Lauren Mitchell 00:36:28 Performing within the Chilean resistance (6:32), the pull of revolutionary love (19:53), and extremely fascist great aunts (31:52). Performing within the Chilean resistance (6:32), the pull of revolutionary love (19:53), and extremely fascist great aunts (31:52). podcast yes full 9 e6a39082872338a88a5790e9c7a5182b Featuring Monica Heisey The sweet adult baby life (6:04), a gentle disagreement with Amy Schumer (11:19), beards as the great dude leveller (21:07), and the problem of the Inappropriate Literary Man.

]]> Sun, 3 Apr 2016 23:43:21 +0000 katie@vocalfrystudios.com (Lauren Mitchell) https://cavern-of-secrets.simplecast.com/episodes/8-featuring-monica-heisey-b2ItVci0 The sweet adult baby life (6:04), a gentle disagreement with Amy Schumer (11:19), beards as the great dude leveller (21:07), and the problem of the Inappropriate Literary Man.

]]> Featuring Monica Heisey Lauren Mitchell 00:38:08 The sweet adult baby life (6:04), a gentle disagreement with Amy Schumer (11:19), beards as the great dude leveller (21:07), and the problem of the Inappropriate Literary Man. The sweet adult baby life (6:04), a gentle disagreement with Amy Schumer (11:19), beards as the great dude leveller (21:07), and the problem of the Inappropriate Literary Man. podcast yes full 8 4029c3828beff8b9709a49cc176c3b1d Featuring Leanne Shapton Putting a face to jealousy (5:47), the usefulness of boob shelves (16:12), and what happens between ages 0 to 3 (30:44).

]]> Mon, 21 Mar 2016 01:17:39 +0000 katie@vocalfrystudios.com (Lauren Mitchell) https://cavern-of-secrets.simplecast.com/episodes/7-featuring-leanne-shapton-db8OvhlB Putting a face to jealousy (5:47), the usefulness of boob shelves (16:12), and what happens between ages 0 to 3 (30:44).

]]> Featuring Leanne Shapton Lauren Mitchell 00:39:06 Putting a face to jealousy (5:47), the usefulness of boob shelves (16:12), and what happens between ages 0 to 3 (30:44). Putting a face to jealousy (5:47), the usefulness of boob shelves (16:12), and what happens between ages 0 to 3 (30:44). podcast yes full 7 6f88d31254b582bfaf3c30c165c1bc9b Featuring Jillian Tamaki The curse of absolute freedom, Toronto vs. New York, and not relying on your parents for financial advice.

]]> Mon, 15 Feb 2016 02:09:17 +0000 katie@vocalfrystudios.com (Lauren Mitchell) https://cavern-of-secrets.simplecast.com/episodes/6-featuring-jillian-tamaki-WY0d0BqI The curse of absolute freedom, Toronto vs. New York, and not relying on your parents for financial advice.

]]> Featuring Jillian Tamaki Lauren Mitchell 00:51:47 The curse of absolute freedom, Toronto vs. New York, and not relying on your parents for financial advice. The curse of absolute freedom, Toronto vs. New York, and not relying on your parents for financial advice. yes full 6 557c6cc269f2bcbd9d6702fb487eea00 Featuring Kyrell Grant On thigh gaps, thirst, and Kanye’s masculinity.

]]> Mon, 1 Feb 2016 11:50:39 +0000 katie@vocalfrystudios.com (Lauren Mitchell) https://cavern-of-secrets.simplecast.com/episodes/5-featuring-kyrell-grant-8d5QPq6u On thigh gaps, thirst, and Kanye’s masculinity.

]]> Featuring Kyrell Grant Lauren Mitchell 00:48:48 On thigh gaps, thirst, and Kanye’s masculinity. On thigh gaps, thirst, and Kanye’s masculinity. yes full 5 b672c0555602395b521959048970103a Featuring Denise Balkissoon On sexist chefs and reporting on race in Toronto.

]]> Mon, 18 Jan 2016 01:17:51 +0000 katie@vocalfrystudios.com (Lauren Mitchell) https://cavern-of-secrets.simplecast.com/episodes/4-featuring-denise-balkissoon-no2aR_gR On sexist chefs and reporting on race in Toronto.

]]> Featuring Denise Balkissoon Lauren Mitchell 00:47:51 On sexist chefs and reporting on race in Toronto. On sexist chefs and reporting on race in Toronto. yes full 4 ee9af598bf628bbd8c774446ace7ccc0 Featuring Carrie Brownstein On fandom, tweeting the pope, and the collective fatigue of the U.S. electoral process. Also turtles.

]]> Mon, 21 Dec 2015 05:37:19 +0000 katie@vocalfrystudios.com (Lauren Mitchell) https://cavern-of-secrets.simplecast.com/episodes/3-featuring-carrie-brownstein-i1ODt7ur On fandom, tweeting the pope, and the collective fatigue of the U.S. electoral process. Also turtles.

]]> Featuring Carrie Brownstein Lauren Mitchell 00:49:07 On fandom, tweeting the pope, and the collective fatigue of the U.S. electoral process. Also turtles. On fandom, tweeting the pope, and the collective fatigue of the U.S. electoral process. Also turtles. podcast yes full 3 a5bc6499edac98f30eb14c7fe80316ae Featuring Tanya Tagaq On fear, the legacy of the residential school system, and pandering to the bottom feeders of the country.

]]> Mon, 7 Dec 2015 02:53:27 +0000 katie@vocalfrystudios.com (Lauren Mitchell) https://cavern-of-secrets.simplecast.com/episodes/2-featuring-tanya-tagaq-bpfGNZB6 On fear, the legacy of the residential school system, and pandering to the bottom feeders of the country.

]]> Featuring Tanya Tagaq Lauren Mitchell 00:38:46 On fear, the legacy of the residential school system, and pandering to the bottom feeders of the country. On fear, the legacy of the residential school system, and pandering to the bottom feeders of the country. yes full 2 f23739b527359c21e1c479f83b2d5c0e Featuring Tavi Gevinson On being 15, growing up online, and writing with your mouth.

]]> Mon, 23 Nov 2015 11:52:40 +0000 katie@vocalfrystudios.com (Lauren Mitchell) https://cavern-of-secrets.simplecast.com/episodes/1-featuring-tavi-gevinson-gTcZy5yx On being 15, growing up online, and writing with your mouth.

]]> Featuring Tavi Gevinson Lauren Mitchell 00:44:00 On being 15, growing up online, and writing with your mouth. On being 15, growing up online, and writing with your mouth. yes full 1 2671701d5f0876b3c533c65d842ca454 Welcome to Cavern of Secrets! Meet your new favourite podcast.

]]> Wed, 11 Nov 2015 18:29:17 +0000 katie@vocalfrystudios.com (Lauren Mitchell) https://cavern-of-secrets.simplecast.com/episodes/0-welcome-to-cavern-of-secrets-QaY74bsY Meet your new favourite podcast.

]]> Welcome to Cavern of Secrets! Lauren Mitchell 00:00:57 Meet your new favourite podcast. Meet your new favourite podcast. yes full 0