Today's guest is Katie Zaferes, a two-time Olympic Games qualifier and 2019 ITU World Triathlon Series Champion.

For Katie, the road to Tokyo has been anything but smooth. We not only explore her mindset as a world class triathlete, we also talk about what’s been going on in her life since the onset of the pandemic, including the unexpected passing of her father earlier this year. 

According to Katie, it was the combination of the “try it and see what happens” attitude instilled in her from both of her parents, as well as her father’s sneaky plan to get her into triathlons, that contributed to her becoming one of the world’s best. As we talked about her current preparations for Tokyo, we got insight into how she’s taken and applied the lessons she’s learned since her disappointing finish at the 2016 Rio Olympics. 

We’re really excited to share our conversation with Katie with the summer Olympics just a few weeks away.

Show Notes

(2:34) Three different time zones and training in Spain…

(4:00) A truly international training team…

(6:09) Grocery stores, logistics, and technology…

(9:06) How has it been in Europe with Covid regulations?

(12:22) “It's also been really cool because in 2019, almost everyone on our team had been on the podium for the world triathlon series. And in 2018 Joel had four out of six of the overall podium spots with our squad. All three men were on the podium for the overall, and then I was on it for the women. So it's a really cool squad to be a part of.”

(14:24) When competitors push you to be great...

(16:36) A community of support during a challenging time…

(19:02) “So I was like, okay, I'll do this with you, only to find out years later that he might've had a little sneaky insight that maybe I would be good at triathlon. Cause at that time I was running track and swimming and he was thinking, oh, well this could go somewhere.” A dad’s influence and a start in the sport…

(23:44) “I call it an explorative mindset for racing… ‘Let's see what I can do,’ rather than, ‘This is what I need to do.’”

(26:54) The many lessons from Rio and the benefits of a sports psychologist..

(30:07) How tools in the toolbox made a difference on the bike…

(33:19) Taking ownership and communicating effectively…

(34:21) Crashes, training, and Tokyo…

(37:55) Navigating a rocky road…

References

2019 Tokyo Qualifier Crash - Olympics.com

Katie's Coach Joel Filliol - website

Let Your Mind Run by Deena Kastor - Amazon

Guest

Katie Zaferes - website | Instagram | Facebook

Hosts:

Bryan Green - bryan@gobemore.co, maketheleapbook.com

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More Podcast - Episodes | Instagram | Facebook

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

Production and Editing

Creatives Collective Marketing

Difficult conversations can very often lead into areas of personal growth.

Lifelong runner Tina Muir doesn’t shy away from these discussions as she builds her two successful running podcasts, Running for Real and Running Realized, and continues to challenge fixed mindsets.

Timestamped Show Notes:

(2:50) Growing up in a classically English town…

(6:03) The difference between club sports and school sports…

(8:13) “When I was coming up to my final year of college, people kept saying, ‘Are you going to go pro?’ And I was like, ‘What does that even mean?’” 

(11:12) A lifestyle component to pursuing sports…

(14:24) “I can absolutely see why she said that I wasn't committed. I was just plodding along, not really trying. But I did manage to pull it together for the final few races. And once I got through that part, it was not a question—running was a part of me.”

(16:52) When commitment goes too far…

(19:00) And then there’s those who don’t commit…

(20:40) Do you have a fixed mindset or growth mindset?

(23:08) The mission of Go Be More…

(25:21) “To ignore your dreams, in my opinion, is really to ignore the opportunity to fully understand who you are before it's all said and done.”—Jon

(26:50) Does the influence of others impact your mindset?

(30:04) A surprising decision…

(33:50) “Once I decided I'm done then I felt a huge relief... but I just couldn't get myself to say it. And even when I stopped, I think that was such a dramatic, emotional moment that I didn't know it was for sure. But once I said it in a calm, rational manner, after thinking about it for a few days, then it felt like a huge relief.”

(34:29) A couple of new distractions… 

(37:04) How much did you evolve as a podcaster?

(39:40) Conversations that grew into a different platform…

(41:21) Running For Real and Running Realized explained…

(44:36) What does Go Be More mean to you...“Taking yourself beyond your comfort zone and stepping out to a place that feels like it's helping you to grow and evolve. And I genuinely believe that we should be learning our entire life. And there's a part of me that feels excited for when I'm 78 years old, all the things I will have learned. I'd say it's just what we've been talking about today. Like stretching yourself and taking that deep breath and then doing it anyway, whatever scares you, take a deep breath and go for it.”

If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with Kara Goucher and Audra Bryant.

Recorded April 30, 2021.

References:

Running for Real - website

Running Realized - website

Guest:

Tina Muir - website | Instagram | Twitter

Hosts:

Bryan Green - bryan@gobemore.co, maketheleapbook.com

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More Podcast - Episodes | Instagram | Facebook

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

Production and Editing

Creatives Collective Marketing

Image Credit: Sandy Gutierrez

It’s easy to view great athletes through just the lens of their training and results. But in this episode, you’ll be reminded there’s so much more to a balanced life.

Shannon authentically shares her thoughts on dance, recovery, competing, advocating, and parenting. Her intentional approach to every life endeavor is refreshing and inspiring.

Show Notes

(3:10) Life now, growing up with Grandma and Irish dance…

(8:15) How did the performance aspect of dance translate into successes in running?

(11:10) “The more that you can be present, and react to what's coming around you and utilize those strengths and skills that you've sharpened through training, that's when you have the highest likelihood of success.”

(14:22) The family bonding experience of dance and sports…

(17:16) A transition to running and the impact of a coach…

(20:25) “The role of a coach is to lay the fundamentals... if you want to be good, if you want to be great, it's not going to happen at the end of high school. And probably not even at the end of college, it's going to happen through year after year of hard work... And it's teaching those lessons of how to show up and be a good teammate and ultimately reach that mountaintop over years of consistent effort.”

(23:22) An injury and a career turning point…

(24:51) “After feeling my feelings, which I did for a little bit, I really focused on understanding the root of the problem and making a thoughtful and patient plan to be back to my best fitness in a year from where I was rather than, "I have to be ready by the fall," or, "I have to be ready by indoors…" Let's just go through this recovery process in the way that it needs to be done.”

(29:04) Getting “permission” to be patient…

(31:31) The secret to getting the best out of yourself when the stakes are the highest…

(35:28) “I describe it like the pendulum. You can't swing this way if you don't swing that way. And, so really trying to find that balance in life so that you can be ready and willing and in the right space, mentally, physically, and heart, when it matters most.”

(36:00) Imagining More…

(40:25) On deciding to be a Mom… “I wanted to make sure she knew that she was my first priority, and I'm trying to make sure that she doesn't ever resent running because it took me away from her. I try to include her in what I'm doing as much as possible. And it brings me such joy that she gets to interact with world champions and Olympians and incredible, incredible people.”

(44:15) “If you create a structure for success, our women will come back and do amazing things, but we really need to make it a more supportive, inclusive system.”

(45:42) What does Go Be More mean? “I'm really proud to have been someone that didn't let the norms around me set my expectations for myself and that instead it was really, how can I go be more? How can I be the best version of myself? And as much as possible, trying to define what that is, rather than what has been. And so to me Go Be More is being a trailblazer.”

If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with Olympians Kara Goucher and Amy Acuff.

Recorded April 30, 2021.

References:

Imagining More Foundation - website

Parity - website

3-Time Olympian Shannon Rowbury Turning 2020 Into Miracle Season - TeamUSA.org

Guest:

Shannon Rowbury - website | Instagram | Twitter

Hosts:

Bryan Green - bryan@gobemore.co, maketheleapbook.com

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More Podcast - Episodes | Instagram | Facebook

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

Production and Editing

Creatives Collective Marketing

Being a top-level athlete in an event that involves chugging beer AND running laps might sound too good to be true for most people. 

But for Chris, it’s a serious, albeit fun, reality.

Listen in as he, Jon, and Bryan chat about “pouring” (pun intended) yourself into physical challenges, entrepreneurial opportunities, and building brands.

Show Notes

(2:31) Early years in sports and deciding to focus on running…

(6:06) Breakout season and college experience… “For the amount of time I was putting into running, I think I was never limited. And looking back, I’m pretty happy with the success that I had in improving every single year throughout college.”

(9:54) The lifelong impact of individual experiences…

(11:04) “A big takeaway from that is, I'd prioritize running very high in my life, but it's never the sole priority… career and entrepreneurial ventures excite me just as much as running…”

(12:41) Taking responsibility for your own results…

(14:48) “I'm very much a person that will try something, and either it works, and great I’ll iterate on it. Or if it doesn't work, then I learned from it.”

(16:23) A first experience with the beer mile…

(19:40) An event that pulls in the non-running community…

(21:55) When it became serious…

(24:11) “There is a technique to chugging, and yes, a bottle is better than a can, and here's the angle to hold it at. And all these like little pieces that I would've never even thought about, a year or two before that time… I’m going to keep learning.”

(26:59) Approach to training and running in other events…

(30:35) A summer in Colorado and trying new things…

(32:37) “I don't want to limit myself and say that I only have this one siloed goal when my interests are going to change. Realizing what my different talents are, I'm probably gonna realize new things and learn more about myself over the years.”

(34:54) The three paths to being super successful…

(36:44) The beer mile podcast endeavor…

(38:24) Creating a lifestyle of pursuing different interests…

(41:27) What does Go Be More mean to you? “No matter what you're pursuing in life, whether it's athletic or spending more time with your family or pursuing a career, to me, it just means you're always trying to level up and be better at whatever it is you're doing.”

If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with Beer Mile World Classic creator Nick MacFalls and sub-4 miler/entrepreneur Bryan Lindsay.

Recorded April 26, 2021.

References:

Chris's record race videos - ChrisRobertson.xyz

BeerMile.com - website

Beer Mile World Classic - website

Beer Mile Podcast - Audio | Video

Beer Mile Media - YouTube

Developing your Skills Network and the Importance of Multiplier Skills - Go Be More blog

Guest:

Chris Robertson - website | Instagram

Hosts:

Bryan Green - bryan@gobemore.co, maketheleapbook.com

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More Podcast - Episodes | Instagram | Facebook

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

Production and Editing

Creatives Collective Marketing

With the intent to make her friends smile, Kelli found a way to connect her artistic abilities with her love of the running community. 

And as a result, Runnergrams was born.

Listen in as she and Bryan chat about the challenges in the creative process, scaling up entrepreneurial ideas, and pursuing happiness.

Timestamped Show Notes

(3:27) A crazy year, a backyard wedding, and being positive…

(6:08) Growing up and finding a love for running through a family competition…

(11:04) “And at that time, 13 miles seemed unachievable to me, but I was like, okay, if you say so, I'll sign up for this half marathon. And then right after I finished, I was like, that was hard, but I guess I'll sign up for my first full marathon.” An intro into the running community…

(12:05) Connecting running with art…

(13:28) The genesis of Runnergrams…

(15:28) Going from a side project for friends to a more public project… “I was getting more creative, I would say, I was thinking of puns. I love puns. And so apparently, everyone else does, too.”

(17:07) From encouraging friends to building a business… “As artists you're always kind of growing and that's why you hate some of the stuff that you've done before.”

(18:35) Starting with low expectations…

(20:06) A great framework to Go Be More…

(22:45) “I truly don't think of myself as a traditional artist. When I think about what I'm doing with Runnergrams, I know that I am creating, and I think a big challenge for me is believing in myself.” Confidence is a strange quality…

(25:36) The concept of self-efficacy…

(28:06) The impact of the running community…

(30:04) “At first, it was fun. And I was like, okay, maybe I'll just keep drawing for the same friends over and over, but it quickly kind of spread.”

(33:15) Challenges faced as Runnergrams is growing…

(37:29) Next Step and North Star goals…

(39:22) What does Go Be More mean? “I actually love it because it kind of resonates with a lot of how I think normally. I can get lazy and sit on the couch and watch Netflix all day. But I think for me, ‘Go Be More’ is that reminder—don't do that.

You can be so much more; you can use your time so much wiser, like to read a book. For me, it's creating, but it’s that reminder of not getting trapped in that.”

If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with Vessel Athletics' Jasmine Sanchez and Jalen Brown or athlete/advocate Dani Reyes-Acosta.

Recorded April 19, 2021.

References:

Runnergrams - Instagram

Coach Jess (@paceofme) - Instagram

Guest:

Kelli Hashimoto - website | Instagram | Twitter

Hosts:

Bryan Green - bryan@gobemore.co, maketheleapbook.com

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More Podcast - Episodes | Instagram | Facebook

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

Production and Editing

Creatives Collective Marketing

As entrepreneurs, we can forget that powerful brands are usually a result of many iterations along the way. 

And successful business journeys take TIME.

Matt, Bryan, and Jon dig into this reality as they look at the progression from a family’s shutter company and a failed blog to a top tactical marketing podcast that teaches companies how to build a tribe with their podcast.

(2:31) Early stomping grounds…

(5:23) An easy jump into entrepreneurship…

(8:07) “And so between Rich Dad Poor Dad and The Four Hour Work Week, those two books really opened our eyes to what was possible in very low overhead businesses that led us down the blogging path.”

(11:08) Dipping your toes in the water…

(13:20) “But in that process, I also learned about blogging. I learned how to create a WordPress website. I learned how to put ads on it. I learned how to start driving some traffic and SEO and all the fundamentals. Even though that site failed, it was a great learning experience where I got all sorts of intel on how to do it a little bit better the next time.”

(15:01) The concept of talent stacks…

(18:16) Skill sets that compliment…

(21:16) A two-headed dragon, and when things really clicked…

(24:08) Going down the assessment rabbit hole…

(27:18) “It's one thing to know what needs to be done. And it's another thing to build an actual system that works with the actual resources you have in the amount of time you actually have.”—Bryan

(29:55) “Everything has to either be a kill, automate or delegate.”

(32:29) The main components of the business and what they’re most passionate about…

(35:04) Balancing the day-to-day…

(37:08) “Find the stuff that you enjoy doing. If it's spending time with your family going to the beach, going to museums or parks or whatever, schedule all that stuff in first and then figure out how to schedule all the work stuff around that.”

(39:39) An approach to goal setting…

(41:41) “I think we've had this fuzzy vision of where we want to be, but the mechanism to get there, we're very flexible on.”

(44:58) Plan continuation bias…

(49:02) How PodHacker came to be…

(52:43) The many purposes of a podcast…

(54:55) What do the words Go Be More mean to you? “I'd say in the context of this conversation, Go Be More means you're more than just your business. Go live your life and let the business be the mechanism for it. That's how I would define it.”

If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with Matt's Hustle & Flowchart co-host Joe Fier or our conversation on Multiplier Skills.

Recorded April 19, 2021.

References:

PodHacker course - website

Hustle & Flowchart Podcast - website

Evergreen Profits Membership - website

Rich Dad, Poor Dad - Amazon

The Four Hour Work Week - Amazon

Fueling the Pursuit - website

Guest:

Matt Wolfe - Twitter | Instagram

Hosts:

Bryan Green - bryan@gobemore.co, maketheleapbook.com

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More Podcast - Episodes | Instagram | Facebook

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

Production and Editing

Creatives Collective Marketing

Today's guest is Meb Keflezighi, arguably the greatest marathoner in US history.

Meb has been someone I've looked up to for more nearly 30 years! In many ways, I've been chasing Meb ever since I became a runner. My co-host, Bryan, and I got to catch up with Meb and dive into what makes him, well, Meb! 

Consistency, preparation and intention are words that can easily define Meb and how he approached his craft as a runner everyday. But it was how he framed these elements that led to sustained excellence for twenty years. This is what we explore in our episode with Meb today.

Show Notes

(7:11) Where are you right now?

(8:58) What are the qualities that stand out in Meb, according to Bryan, Jon, and Meb

(12:16) Approaching races with a boldness… “I'm not super comfortable for the last lap, so I got to make it count beforehand.”

(14:25) Being a “chasee” and later becoming the “chased”... early college experiences that shaped Meb’s mindset…

(16:46) Developing patience, “...it is one goal at a time, one event at a time.”

(18:51) Thoughts on risk versus reward…

(20:47) What went into building a sustainable career?

(23:53) Jon’s recounting of watching the Athens Olympic Marathon and Meb’s thoughts during the event…

(27:30) “No athlete in history has probably done more drills than Meb.” —Coach Bob Larsen

(29:35) “I'm going to plug your book here, Make the Leap. You have to be able to think better, train better, and all that comes to be run faster.”

(31:41) Sharing about a devastating injury in 2008 and a new perspective…

(38:52) Lessons learned while coming back from an injury…

(41:30) “You know, it’s mind-boggling what the body can do when it’s in the right mind frame.” Meb and Jon reflect on past injuries and healing.

(45:00) “...failure is just another building block towards a larger success in the future.”—Bryan - Meb shares habits that contribute to success.

(48:23) Meb’s relationship with UCAN… “The best thing you could do is get the right nutrition to help you accomplish whatever your goal is. And I think UCAN has done that for me.”

(52:09) Meb Foundation, being an intentional Dad, writing, and continuing to enjoy running…

If you enjoyed this episode, check out our interview with Meb's brother Merhawi Keflezighi or his long-time rival, 5-time Olympian Abdi Abdirahman.

References

Fueling the Pursuit, presented by UCAN - UCAN.co/podcast

Go Be More Podcast with Meb's coach Bob Larsen - Part 1 | Part 2

Run to Overcome - Amazon

Meb for Mortals - Amazon

26 Marathons - Amazon

Make the Leap - maketheleapbook.com

Guest

Meb Keflezighi - Website | Instagram | Twitter

Hosts:

Bryan Green - bryan@gobemore.co, maketheleapbook.com

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More Podcast - Episodes | Instagram | Facebook

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

Production and Editing

Creatives Collective Marketing

Are you trying to master something? 

Jon and Bryan take a deep dive into the five levels of mastery, the importance of mental representations, and the power of purposeful practice. Whether you’re a runner trying to scale up performances, or you are struggling to become more adept at a new skill, you’ll want to download and listen to this episode. 

Careful explanations, practical steps, and personal stories bring this wisdom to life.

(3:00) New and trending on the apparel side of Go Be More…

(6:18) “That's what I think a Go Be More shirt should be doing for you. It should be representing that thing you're aspiring towards. And then whenever you see it, whether you're wearing it or not, you get that reminder that ‘I'm committed to this.’”

(7:56) “It's really centered on a very specific question—which is how you get the most out of yourself and training. I think it’s something that you and I are both interested in and these are some of the best people in the world to speak to about it.” Jon and Bryan are hosting a second podcast called Fueling the Pursuit.

(10:12) Listen here for a discount code for UCAN products!

(11:14) How to become an expert…

(11:52) Warren Buffett, Mike Tyson, and Jerry Seinfeld…

(14:05) The 5 levels of mastery explained…

(17:03) “I wanted to be the greatest of all-time at something, and that was running one mile around the track. I wanted to do it faster than anybody ever did it and I wanted to win a gold medal doing it.”

(20:22) The difference between fluency and creativity…

(22:52) Mental representations and Anders Ericsson…

(24:41) Jon’s personal experience with an intuitive understanding…

(29:02) The three types of practice... 

(32:32) The different nuances of practice and looking at the Go Be More venture through the mastery framework…

(35:20) The four main components of purposeful practice...“Whenever you're training, practicing, learning, studying or whatever you're doing, you have to be focused on improving specific skills.”

(41:41) The challenge with feedback…

(42:49) “So go hurry up and fail already. Go blow up and see how bad it isn't. Because the moment you know that it isn’t, you'll break five.” A young man who was afraid to fail…

If you liked this episode, check out our episode on the Five Levels of Mastery and last week's episode on re-thinking goal setting.

Recorded April 9, 2021.

References:

New Go Be More items - Gobemore.co

Fueling the Pursuit by UCAN - website

Shop at UCAN and save 20% (w/free shipping) - online shop (use code UCANGOBEMORE)

Peak: Secrets from the New Science of Expertise by Anders Ericsson - Amazon

Make the Leap - Website | Newsletter | Instagram | Facebook

Hosts:

Bryan Green - @maketheleapbook, bryan@gobemore.co

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

Production and Editing

Creatives Collective Marketing

If you believe there’s value in collaborating and positive impact through conversation, then you’ll love this episode.

Jon and Bryan recount some of the “ah-ha” moments from recent episodes—thanks to compelling guest interviews. And they look forward to a new and exciting partnership as hosts of UCAN’s Fueling the Pursuit podcast.

Listen in to the best snippets and gold nuggets, and Go Be More today.

(3:25) Fueling the Pursuit, an exciting new partnership with UCAN…

(5:33) Getting better and growing as podcasters…

(9:02) Exploring new ideas through conversations…

(11:07) “We get to explore the mindset of Olympians, elite athletes, coaches, and trainers, and even just everyday people doing extraordinary things.”

(13:34) “We have a special code in partnership with them, which is UCANGOBEMORE. We'll put a link in all this in the show notes, but if you're interested in trying out their products, you can get 20% off and free shipping with that coupon."

(15:52) A recent episode that has gotten a lot of feedback—exploring North Star goals and Next Step goals…

(18:39) Validating stories from Peter Gilmore and pursuing what feels right with Dani Reyes-Acosta…

(21:34) The One Thing—an episode with Bryan and Geoff Woods that connected concepts about goal setting…

(23:36) Working definitions of North Star goals and Next Step goals…

(25:55) “Honestly, the bigger the goals, the bigger the dreams, the more I felt alive.”

(26:55) The challenge with setting North Star goals…

(30:18) “I took for granted the relevance of actually highlighting Next Step goals, even if it was just a couple. You need stepping stones to understand the path or at least some of the things that are clearly required to make progress towards the bigger goals.”

(34:11) Two guys still learning and conversations that lead to new mental connections…

(36:43) Bringing clarity with two meaningful metaphors…

(40:03) “Pick something that's big and crazy and feels huge. We basically went out to that furthest domino and we went backward saying, 'Where do you need to be in half the time?'”

(43:06) “So it's not that there's a better strategy. It's not that everything I'm doing, I shouldn't be doing. But that there are probably other directions I can take that might move the needle faster.”

(47:03) Big visions, the courage to work it out, and therapy sessions—moving the “needle” forward...

If you liked this episode, check out our conversation with The One Thing's Geoff Woods or our conversation about Backcasting.

Recorded March 31, 2021.

References:

Fueling the Pursuit by UCAN - website

Shop at UCAN and save 20% (w/free shipping) - online shop (use code UCANGOBEMORE)

The surprisingly simple goal-setting strategy used by billionaires - gobemore.co

Previous Go Be More conversations about Newman Design Squiggle | Multiplier Skills | Friction | 80/20 Rule

Recent Go Be More interviews with Amy Acuff | Garrett Heath | Peter Gilmore | Nick MacFalls | Dani Reyes-Acosta

Make the Leap - Website | Newsletter | Instagram | Facebook

Hosts:

Bryan Green - @maketheleapbook, bryan@gobemore.co

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

Production and Editing

Creatives Collective Marketing

Many admire a life lived with intention, passion, and purpose, but few dare to figure out what that looks like—and pursue it.

Dani Reyes-Acosta left an envied corporate job with Nike to determine how her passions and skill sets could work together to create a life she loves. 

This conversation may very well inspire YOU to re-evaluate those aspects of how you’re living your life.

(1:58) A girl and her splitboard at the foot of Grand Teton National Park in Wyoming…

(4:31) Splitboarding explained, and how an adventurous outdoors life began…

(7:46) Life events that led to a reset…

(12:44) “Working in a team, being creative, doing large scale impactful work is what really makes my heart sing.”

(15:45) Exploring her human potential and the broader environment through backcountry splitboarding…

(18:30) Outlier - her project that marries storytelling, marketing, filmmaking, and strategizing… “What I think is really cool about this project is how the stories we tell inform the stories we believe about ourselves.”

(21:47) How do we honor our heritage and honor the land?

(24:59) An invitation to growth…

(26:41) Scaling-up in backcountry ability and knowledge… “By no means, do I think I know everything. I've just really tried to surround myself with people that are also trying to learn.”

(30:31) Teaching, educating, and giving back… “I think, fundamentally, a growth journey is always going to be underpinned by embracing failure.”

(33:54) Bringing underrepresented communities into the story…

(37:42) Connecting backcountry skiing with heritage, inclusivity, and brand messaging…

(39:46) “We want to see people be who they were born to be, by chasing what makes sense to them. Because in turn, they become what the world is chasing, which means they're inspiring others to do the same.”—Jon Rankin

(42:44) What does Go Be More mean to you? “It's really, how do you rise up from failure, from success, happiness, and sadness? And being in spaces of light and spaces of dark, whether you've achieved something amazing or have fallen flat on your face—literally or metaphorically—I think that what defines us is, how do we rise up and what are the next steps we take?”

If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with Olympian Kara Goucher and newscaster Kristina Audencial.

Recorded March 12, 2021.

References:

Nomad Creativa - website

How to Splitboard - YouTube

Guests:

Dani Reyes-Acosta - website | Instagram

Hosts:

Bryan Green - bryan@gobemore.co, maketheleapbook.com

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More Podcast - Episodes | Instagram | Facebook

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

Production and Editing

Creatives Collective Marketing

“We're not just thought leaders, we're practice leaders. We practice what we teach. So you have to live it.”

Some podcasts have so many nuggets of truth that you commit to listening more than once. Geoff and Bryan’s conversation is one of these.

Geoff has a system for honing in on the one thing that will bring about the best results. 

He walks Bryan through the exact sequence of questions and thoughts that will scale-up Bryan’s Make the Leap book project. And in the process, he lays out a path for everyone looking to master their time and resources.

(3:30) “The shift is coming and there's always a gift in the shift.” Pivoting business because of Covid…

(5:37) Have you ever been in a place where even though things are good, you’re lacking fulfillment? Geoff speaks about what led to his lightbulb moment.

(7:32) Exposure to The One Thing, the simple truth behind extraordinary results and the start of a new company…

(11:12) Going from doing the best you can do to studying the best in the world…

(12:02) Ideas that change people…

(17:23) “There's no such thing as work-life balance. It's not like these scales where they're going to be completely equal. It does not exist. What we have to realize is that life is a balancing act.”

(18:57) Going long and staying short…

(21:07) “You got to stop doing the stuff that you're probably doing right now, because most people, if I followed them around with a camera, I'd see them majoring in the minors.” Choosing ONE thing…

(24:34) The domino effect and a powerful habit…

(26:53) “Think big, but go small and trust the dominoes will fall.”

(31:16) Forming habits…

(34:35) A little one-on-one coaching for Bryan’s book project…

(46:34) What does Go Be More mean to you? “Think big, go small, trust the dominoes will fall. Have a big vision and understand that the path to getting there is not by doing everything. It’s about viewing all the things you can do like dominoes: stand them up, line them up, whack away at the first one.”

If you liked this episode, check out our our conversations about the 80/20 rule and self-referenced goal-setting.

Recorded February 26, 2021.

References:

The One Thing (book) - Amazon

The One Thing (company) - website

The One Thing Podcast - website

Largest Toppling Dominos World Record - YouTube

Guests:

Geoff Woods - LinkedIn

Hosts:

Bryan Green - bryan@gobemore.co, maketheleapbook.com

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More Podcast - Episodes | Instagram | Facebook

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

Production and Editing

Creatives Collective Marketing

“I think ideas are nothing without that grind. And it's the same with running, you can have all the talent, but you have to be able to get through the setbacks that come. Whether that's injuries or poor performance. It’s just being able to keep pushing through.”

“Giving back” is a desirable achievement but something that is not always prioritized. 

Except with Nick MacFalls.

He’s managed to bring together his skills and passions over and over to build community, develop programs, produce engaging and fun events and live a life filled with meaning and purpose.

Show Topics

(2:57) A crazy Italian family, bootlegging, and the ‘84 Olympics—Nick’s recollection of early, formative years growing up in Pennsylvania.

(5:03) A stepfather’s influence and the opportunities that came from being a high school cross country champ…

(7:31) “I volunteered at the VA and the recreation department and everyone's like, 'Man if I had to do it again, I'd go into the Air Force.' And I heard that so much.” Choosing the Academy…

(9:30) Balancing the requirements of Air Force, school, and running…

(11:29) Gaining perspective from a prisoner of war, “They broke me yesterday, but I'm going to win today.”—Colonel Kenneth Hughey

(14:38) “I wasn't really driven into the military. It was a way out for me.”

(15:13) The benefits of being in the military…

(16:23) Getting around an asthma setback…

(19:42) The Military World Games…

(23:40) A shoe program begins…

(27:21) “I put on events for the Multiple Sclerosis Society and I think I'm happiest when I'm packing the trucks.” The sweet spot of coordinating events…

(28:28) Creating events focused on team camaraderie and the whole field of athletes…

(32:18) “Having a group to run with, do workouts with, grab a beer with that became the focus for me in the latter part of my running career.”

(33:30) The four pillars…

(34:05) Working with the MS Society...

(38:06) A funny and relatable story of every runner’s worst nightmare…

(41:15) What does Go Be More mean to you? 

“I really look at things on a day-by-day basis and there are things that I want to accomplish every day that are part of a bigger goal. And like I said, I'm kind of a grinder. So, a great day for me is a day that I accomplished something, that I get to work out, that I get to connect with someone. For me, those are the aspects that I like to keep feeding in my life. And when one of them's missing, I feel something's missing in my life. So that's the biggest thing, balancing connectivity and consistency.”

If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with coach/event promoter Tracy Sundlun and Nick's former roommate US marathoner Peter Gilmore.

Recorded February 22, 2021.

References:

Colonel Kenneth Hughey - POW Network

Military World Games - Wikipedia

National MS Society - website

Beer Mile World Classic - website

Guests:

Nick MacFalls - LinkedIn

Hosts:

Bryan Green - bryan@gobemore.co, maketheleapbook.com

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More Podcast - Episodes | Instagram | Facebook

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

Production and Editing

Creatives Collective Marketing

“For whatever reason, I had some ability that was a little bit better than average at being able to put all my eggs into that basket and deliver on a consistent basis.” --Peter Gilmore

Admiration flows out effortlessly when a person’s success results from their work ethic, perspective, and consistent application. 

In this conversation, you’ll hear about Peter Gilmore’s career-defining lesson from running in Kenya, his patient and persistent approach to training, and his relentless pursuit to close the gaps between him and his competitors.

(2:50) Early days of tagging along with a running mom…

(6:27) Making sports fun, and other ways to incentivize young athletes…

(11:46) Peter’s rise in running in high school and college…

(14:21) “I was super driven. Nobody was going to outwork me. Nobody was going to be more into it than I was. I had an endless well of enthusiasm for the sport, for training, for racing, and for setting goals.”

(15:06) The story about Kenya… “I'd go for a run. There'd be, no joke, like a hundred kids running next to me.”

(20:27) Biggest takeaway from Kenyan experience… “You could work a hell of a lot harder than you thought you could and still not burn out, if you did it smart.”

(24:17) The impact of the internet on developing runners…

(28:36) “It's kind of the compounding effect of all the years of being consistent and just not screwing up. It's iterative too because you're always gonna have to make adjustments along the way.”

(29:28) “Hamilton’s” insight on staying in your own lane…

(31:29) Jon’s observations on the central themes of Peter’s running career…

(34:33) Bryan shares Peter's indirect role in his running success…

(39:34) Competition versus the individual race…

(42:50) Going all in… “...if you made good decisions, but the result was bad, it doesn't necessarily mean the decision was bad.”

(44:50) A funny masters running story…

(48:47) What does Go Be More mean to you? “Not being afraid to be different in either the way you do things, or the way you think about things, or the way you express yourself, to get to achieve it… I think being more is, is being more about being who you are.”

If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with author and runner Toby Tanser and Olympic marathoner Abdi Abdirahman.

Recorded February 22, 2021.

References:

More Fire: How to Run the Kenyan Way by Toby Tanser - Amazon

Guests:

Peter Gilmore

Hosts:

Bryan Green - bryan@gobemore.co, maketheleapbook.com

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More Podcast - Episodes | Instagram | Facebook

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

Production and Editing

Creatives Collective Marketing

“If I can get myself physically and mentally ready to go, I know I'm going to beat a lot of people that maybe I shouldn't beat, even before I get to that starting line.”—Garrett Heath

There are times when you meet someone and think, what you see is what you get. Despite their “greatness” in a particular arena of life, they STILL are so down to earth.

That describes Garrett Heath.

With many similar running memories, Jon, Bryan, and Garrett quickly jump into early formative experiences, cross-training benefits, and the highs and lows of a professional running career.

(2:14) Chasing down Jon…

(5:09) How has the pandemic impacted training?

(9:17) Growing up in an athletic and outdoorsy Minnesota family…

(11:39) Bryan, Garrett, and Jon reflect on high school coaches and their impact. “Our coach had a good way of making it fun while also being very disciplined.”—Garrett

(15:11) Nordic skiing state champion or cross-country great all depended on the time of year. Garrett speaks to the benefits for runners who cross-train.

(19:47) Thoughts on effort, exposure, and learning…

(22:26) Transitions from high school to college…

(25:48) “Put successful people around you, or people with similar motivations, and you're gonna rise as well, or you're gonna naturally get better just by being around them.”

(27:27) Building momentum with little things…

(29:12) An eye-opening experience in Europe…

(32:33) “You have this realization... that everything I thought mattered doesn't really matter that much… the training's there, the basics are there. I'm overthinking stuff, if I think everything has to go to plan.”

(34:13) Jon’s secret weapon…

(35:35) Beating Mo Farah… and Garrett’s explanation of a race split in thirds.

(40:40) Next steps for Garrett…

(41:29) What does Go Be More mean to Garrett?

If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with elite runners Will Leer and Ryan Miller.

Recorded February 19, 2021.

References:

Great Edinburgh X-Country 2016 - YouTube

Brooks Beasts Track Club - Instagram

Guests:

Garrett Heath - @garrettheath

Hosts:

Bryan Green - bryan@gobemore.co, maketheleapbook.com

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More Podcast - Episodes | Instagram | Facebook

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

Production and Editing

Creatives Collective Marketing

“I always keep thinking about high jump at some level, or the technique, and part of what drew me to the event was the analysis and the refinement and trying to settle and find what is the ideal, best way to do it.”—Amy Acuff

It’s always refreshing to meet someone who approaches life with a hunger to learn and a drive to find creative ways of connecting skills with passions.

Amy Acuff has done just that.

In this episode, her Olympic achievements are the impressive background to the fascinating conversation she has with Jon and Bryan. They cover topics ranging from early Olympic dreams, a “tiny” mentor, the inevitability of failure, developing iPhone apps, and a reason to preserve free speech. 

(2:33) A weather crisis during a pandemic…

(8:03) Athlete psychology is often like the psychology of winning the lottery… 

(11:01) “Training for athletics is a lot like being a farmer.”

(12:33) The nature of always wanting more… “It's like you're climbing a ladder and the bottom disappears so that you never see all the distance you came. You only see what's ahead of you.”

(16:23) The mindset of pushing and pushing and pushing…

(17:43) Formulating a wish to be an Olympian…

(20:42) History-rich UCLA experiences…

(22:25) A tiny but powerful mentor…

(25:59) “There can only be one Olympic champion every four years. And there's only one world record holder at a time.” The inevitability of failure…

(27:44) Picking a new area to learn…

(32:30) Landing at the intersection of sports, health, and technology…

(37:03) An argument for free speech…

(38:22) Performance enhancement through technology…

(45:30) What does “Go Be More” mean to you?

If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with Bruin legend Willie Banks and Olympic high jumper Jamie Nieto.

Recorded February 19, 2021.

References:

Leta Andrews (Amy's basketball coach) - Wikipedia

iAnalyze (iPhone app) - App Store

Guests:

Amy Acuff - Wikipedia

Hosts:

Bryan Green - bryan@gobemore.co, maketheleapbook.com

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More Podcast - Episodes | Instagram | Facebook

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

Production and Editing

Creatives Collective Marketing

When placed together, reflection and conversation have an uncanny way of bringing about clarity and NEW lessons learned.

After listening to Jon and Bryan discuss goal-setting, you’ll be compelled to view your goal-setting strategies through a different filter.

(2:30) The elephant in the room and skating competitions…

(6:51) Two types of goals…

(9:43) “Here's the fundamental thing that everybody needs to remember and understand if you're going to set a goal. The only reason to set a goal is to motivate you to achieve it.”

(11:53) So what’s a norm-referenced goal versus a self-referenced goal?

(13:20) Why do most people set norm-referenced goals?

(15:32) Breaking free of mindsets can mean success…

(17:19) Context versus comparing…

(21:28) “The reality is the whole time what was really driving them was the self-referenced goals.”

(22:42) There are positives to norm-referenced goals…

(25:06) Turning the focus to self-referenced goals…

(26:29) How self-referenced goals align with the phrase, “Go Be More…”

(28:40) Bringing the two types together…

(29:31) “Don’t compare your chapter one to someone else’s chapter ten.”

(30:30) Jon’s 2005 explosion…

(33:25) A secret to Jon’s success and a powerful statement from Scott Abbott…

(35:46) “There's a common theme, which is the more you're focused on the self-referenced work, the more likely you are to achieve the norm-referenced success.”

(38:25) Falling is part of the process and there’s value in the transferable aspect of self-referenced goals…

(41:41) “If you’re consistent and you're doing the right things you create this really positive feedback loop, boom, and make a big leap.”

If you liked this episode, check out our conversation with firefighter Jeff Nolet or our conversation about Bryan's book Make the Leap.

Recorded February 12, 2021.

References:

Make the Leap - Website | Newsletter | Instagram | Facebook

Bryan's goals for Make the Leap - Make the Leap blog

Scott Abbott interview - GBM Podcast

Hosts:

Bryan Green - @maketheleapbook, bryan@gobemore.co

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

Production and Editing

Creatives Collective Marketing

“I think a lot of times people think, 'Oh, this guy was talented from the beginning. He was crushing and dominating from the very beginning.' And that's not true. You know, it takes time to be great, no matter what you do in sport, business, life. Whatever it is you're doing, it takes time. So, you know...you can still make it, even though you're not the best right off the bat.”—Jamie Nieto

Athletes often speak about the power of mindset. But Jamie takes it to a “higher” level as he shares the painstaking journey to become an Olympic high jumper and the miraculous recovery he has been fighting for over the last five years.

(2:59) A plan to become a better basketball player uncovers a passion for jumping.

(5:26) Getting a little better each year…

(7:11) Cal Berkeley or Eastern Michigan...

(11:15) The wake-up call of being an “average fish…”

(14:14) Highlights, milestones, and validations…

(17:27) The hurdles of training for Olympic teams…

(26:37) “I missed my first attempt and then on the second attempt, glide over it, bar wobbling, but it stayed on. And I took off my shirt and ran into the crowd…”

(30:51) Despite the “ups and downs,” the up times make it all worth it…

(34:08) The accident of 2016…

(37:07) Receiving 30% odds of making a full recovery, and making a promise to walk down the aisle…

(39:36) Jamie’s remarkable wife…

(42:14) The long daily grind of rehab…

(46:14) “We just don't give the mental part of getting ourselves to do the physical thing enough credit…” Jon talks about mindset.

(48:48) The power of visualizing…

(55:42) A twist on a Les Brown quote…

(59:05) What does Go Be More mean to you?

If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with Olympic triple jumper Willie Banks and Boxer/Kidney Disease Survivor Marc Coronel.

Recorded December 16, 2020.

References:

Jamie Nieto Clears 7'6" at the 2012 London Olympics - YouTube

Today: Paralyzed Former High Jumper Jamie Nieto Walks His Wife Down the Aisle - YouTube

Shevon Nieto on America's Got Talent - YouTube

Through the Good and the Bad (Official Video) - YouTube

Guests:

Jamie Nieto - homepage, Instagram

Hosts:

Bryan Green - bryan@gobemore.co, maketheleapbook.com

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

Production and Editing

Creatives Collective Marketing

In a results-focused world, we can sometimes lose sight of the powerful processes that impact our goals, and shape who we become along the way.

If you’ve ever wanted to get better at, well, anything...you’ll love this conversation about Bryan’s recently published book, Make the Leap: Think Better, Train Better, Run Faster

From feedback loops to the concepts of engagement, hidden training programs, and everything in-between, Bryan and Jon go into several of the strategies that, when applied, can improve the journey of anyone striving to Go Be More.

(2:08) Finding value and feeling the impact of social media efforts…

(7:34) Achieving a milestone and the meaning of “Make the Leap”…

(10:29) Jon’s personal leap…

(14:46) “...it all starts in our heads.” The truths behind the subtitle “Think Better, Train Better, Run Faster”

(17:14) How a Learning Theory class changed an approach to running…

(20:26) What was the motivation behind writing a book? And what was the experience like?

(24:40) Making the shift from finishing the book to selling the book… and where was the actual starting line? (A peek into one of Bryan’s leaps.)

(29:00) Feedback loops, leap cycles, optimal training principles, and many other aspects to thinking more productively…

(34:37) Why feedback loops generate leaps…

(37:22) Applying quality, recovery, and consistency to feedback loops—Jon’s experience.

(43:32) The leaps may be similar but the details are different.

(44:20) What’s a leap cycle?

(46:36) “But I don't think that this is necessarily applicable solely to running, even though it's extremely helpful for anybody that's trying to improve as a runner.”

(48:46) The impact of feedback loops on social media…

(50:36) Comparing next steps and North Star goals…

(53:58) Action steps to getting the most from the book…

If you liked this episode, check out our conversations with UCLA coach Bob Larsen and runner/author Matt Fitzgerald.

Recorded January 22, 2021.

References:

Buy the Book! - maketheleapbook.com

The Three Most Important Words for Understanding Feedback Loops - Make the Leap Blog

Scott Abbott interview - GBM Podcast

Hosts:

Bryan Green - @maketheleapbook, bryan@gobemore.co

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

Production and Editing

Creatives Collective Marketing

“Because of that level of commitment, to at least one aspect of the business, it made it so much easier to commit to other aspects of the business, even if it was just chipping away at it piece by piece.” —Jon Rankin

2020 may well go down as the year that everything changed. But not all change is negative. It’s often in these challenging times that you can grow the most.

In this episode, Jon and Bryan take an honest look back at this year and how it impacted the Go Be More brand. They share the lessons learned, and they lay out the plans and dreams for 2021.

Whether you’re a die-hard Go Be More fan, a new visitor, or an aspiring entrepreneur, you’ll love the gold-nuggets of wisdom found within this candid reflection and conversation.

(2:15) Holiday chat and productivity talk, what’s been going on in the last month…

(6:18) Looking back at 2020 and determining the “Why” behind Go Be More…

(9:10) “One of the things that are so important is the environment you create around yourself and the small nudges that keep you going in the direction you want to go.”

(10:48) The vehicle of clothing…

(14:04) The initial challenges of starting a business…

(17:01) Something that made a difference…

(19:18) The critical nature of having the right team…

(25:40) “We had always wanted to do a podcast, but we decided to invest in it. And it did a number of things for us. One, it gave us something we could really build on.”

(30:05) A second thing to build a business on…

(34:39) Finding the commitment to build a brand, purpose, and message…

(39:17) The three things, advice for fellow entrepreneurs…

(45:16) “Whatever you're trying to do, don't pretend to be the expert.”

(47:03) Wisdom from a mom…

(49:38) Plans for 2021, making the leap, and doing the consistent work that lead to rapid growth in the future…

If you liked this episode, check out our conversations about prioritizing and pivoting or about our podcast lessons learned after 20 episodes.

Recorded January 20, 2021.

References:

Make the Leap: Think Better, Train Better, Run Faster - website

Scott Abbott interview - GBM Podcast

Hosts:

Bryan Green - @maketheleapbook, bryan@gobemore.co

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

Production and Editing

Creatives Collective Marketing

Kirk Kellerhals experienced a “full-circle” moment when a woman in an email said she thought he was her son. 

After living 50-years with a missing piece to his identity-puzzle, Kirk received the gift of learning about his biological roots. Here he shares how running and faith pulled him through dark times and how a documentary is his way of paying the “gift” forward to Vietnam vets and adoptees.

(2:43) Eight-thousand miles away, in 1969, a boy was born. Kirk tells about his early days.

(5:24) Standing out like a “sore thumb…”

(8:52) Playing sports, marching in the band, and staying out of trouble…

(11:09) Enrolled in the East Texas police academy…

(12:05) A “front-row seat” to a real protest in front of the White House…

(16:46) How the word “dehumanizing” applies to both sides of the conflict.

(18:49) Jon takes advantage of an opportunity to show compassion and support.

(22:42) We all have chances to escalate or de-escalate moments.

(24:35) “What I say to people is not nearly as important as how I make them feel.”

(25:59) From hating running to loving it, Kirk shares his transformation and how it led to meeting Jon.

(34:03) Witness Through Fitness, building community with running and faith…

(37:57) An incredible story of discovering his roots…

(40:43) A life-changing email…

(46:02) “It didn't take long to realize that this is my mother. I'm like, Holy moly. She's been looking for me for my 48 years. And...I'm talking to her.”

(50:19) The immediate bond with my mother, father, and siblings…

(52:05) Taking a lot less for granted…

(53:42) Dark places leading to purpose—photojournalism, documentaries, and sharing blessings…

(58:03) “Well, it's definitely a work in progress. And one of the things I'm finding, especially about a documentary that's as in-depth as this one, is it's very fluid.”

(1:02:20) What’s the impact you want the documentary to have?

(1:05:36) Putting the pieces together for Vietnam veterans…

(1:09:42) “We have always, our entire lives, had that stigma. That negative stigma, that Vietnam War hanging over our heads. I call it the Pigpen Syndrome.”

(1:13:40) What does Go Be More mean to you?

(1:17:12) “The Vietnam War was not all negative. There was a lot of good that came out of it.”

If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with Podcaster Joe Fier and entrepreneur Ron Sarmiento.

And, you can now get these show notes sent directly to your email. Sign up here!

Recorded September 14, 2020.

References:

Sacred Heart Film - Facebook

SEACoast2Coast Foundation - Facebook

Guest:

Kirk Kellerhals - Instagram

Hosts:

Bryan Green - bryan@gobemore.co, Make the Leap book

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

Production and Editing

Creatives Collective Marketing

Beginnings
- Why Tony says he has fast twitch muscles but a slow twitch mind
- His joining the cross country team to avoid playing football and his quitting the cross country team to avoid getting arrested for running on the local golf course
- The connection between Martin Luther King Jr's assassination and Tony getting into the African American museum in Washington DC for being the first black man to run marathons on all seven continents
- What stood out to Tony about his experience running in Antarctica and what we might not realize about penguins
- How his doing sports in high school controlled his weight and kept him from going on insulin, and the lifetime goal he set for himself while in college (and has maintained since then)
- Why Tony loved bowling and the 800 meters: the mental game, and how our fathers would try to use it against us

Lessons from a Lifetime Running
- Just as school courses have aspects in common that we can use to better understand them, running provides valuable lessons in other areas of life
- Why it is so important to move outside your comfort zone and pursue your bucket list items, and how that also changes the way you work
- Tony's use of the question, "If you died, how many people in your staff would check on your spouse a year later?" to guide his priorities
- How an experience being afraid of not making it to the long jump pit taught him the role of fear in both holding us back and achieving big things
- How we have to dive into the things we don't know and aren't comfortable with to get to the level we need to achieve
- Why it is better to run smaller marathons than the large major ones

The National Black Marathoner's Association
- How he was originally inspired to create the NBMA after his 47th marathon
- Their original goal to fund scholarships for black high school distance runners and to meet once a year at a marathon in the US
- How learning about Marilyn Bevins and Ted Corbitt made him realize how little everyone knew about black distance running history, which ultimately led to them creating the Black Distance Running Hall of Fame in 2013
- A story about the amazing small-world connections between Tony and Ron Gregory, an inductee into the Hall of Fame in 2017
- His project to create the Five Island Challenge series of marathons across the Caribbean islands
- And how for Tony, Go Be More means to take a risk and try opportunities you aren't used to doing

If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with Alisa Harvey and Khadevis Robinson.

Recorded July 31, 2020.

References:

UCAN panel on Race, Representation and Running - YouTube

National Black Marathoner's Association - homepage

Five-Island Challenge - homepage, @fiveislandchallenge

Running Shoes are Cheaper than Insulin: Marathon Adventures on All Seven Continents by Tony Reed - Amazon

From the Road Race to the Rat Race: Essays from a Black Executive Marathoner by Tony Reed - Amazon

Guest:

Tony Reed

Hosts:

Bryan Green - bryan@gobemore.co, maketheleapbook.com

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

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- Growing up in a Jewish/Filipino bi-racial family, with a twin brother (who was better than him at basketball)
- How he chose his university, and why it was ultimately not the right choice for him
- How he went about deciding to transfer schools, and why he feels it was the right decision
- Ben's advice to young people struggling to make difficult decisions in their lives
- Starting and navigating a career in banking in 2007, just as the recession was about to hit
- Competing for the US team and winning a gold medal at the Maccabi Games, the third largest sporting event in the world
- Finding out his father was going to federal prison, and how he poured himself into his work and running as an escape
- Deciding to quit banking and start a fitness company in Maui
- Why not getting accepted into business school was probably a blessing in disguise
- Building a business around his passions of mind and body, health and wellness
- His work with Mankind Project, which helps men get in touch with their emotions and spirituality
- Using his experience with the Mankind Project to develop a new set of skills that he could incorporate into his business
- His work with Inside Circle, an organization that works with prison inmates to explore the similar issues to the Mankind Project
- The similar conversations and experiences felt all men, from CEOs to inmates alike
- How his experiences with Mankind Project and Inside Circle enabled him to do the necessary work to emotionally deal with his father's incarceration
- His experience with the federal prison system, especially once COVID-19 started to spread within prisons
- His father's death due to COVID-19, the experience he went through trying to help his father, and the emotions he went through after receiving the news
- His new company, Maui Method, which offers coaching services and has an impressive stable of experts, including Khadevis Robinson, Shannon Rowbury, Emily Kraus and some former Navy Seals
- And last but not least, what the three words Go Be More mean to Ben!

If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with Bryan Lindsay and Scott Abbott.

References:

Mankind Project: A Men's Community for the 21st Century - homepage

Inside Circle: Empowering System Impacted People to Lead Change from Within - homepage

There is Power in Pursuit - Interview with Khadevis Robinson - Go Be More Podcast

Guest:

Ben Auerbach - Maui Method + One Fitness, @onefitnessmaui

Hosts:

Bryan Green, bryan@gobemore.co, maketheleapbook.com

Jon Rankin, @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

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Early Life and High School
- How Kara ended up in her mother's hometown of Duluth, Minnesota, after her father was killed by a drunk driver when she was 4 years old
- Growing up in a family with six kids and the benefits she got from doing a lot of sports where she wasn't the best (or even very good at all)
- How she relates to the person she was in high school now that she's able to sit for two hours and watch Real Housewives of Beverly Hills (something she definitely would not have done then!)
- How her grandfather introduced her to running and the first race she entered
- The fun she had running for her high school coach, and how he helped her deal with the difficulties she faced going through puberty
- How she was not recruited by the University of Colorado but sent herself there, and the crazy experience she had on her visit to the school

NCAA and Pro Career
- What makes the University of Colorado's Mark Wetmore such a good coach and what he got Kara to believe about herself
- The factors that caused her to leave Colorado and join the Oregon Project at Nike in Portland, Oregon, what it feels like to leave a coach, and how difficult those transitions can be
- Getting immediately sidelined by injury and how she persisted through that period to eventually run her first personal best in six years(!)
- How winning the bronze medal (since moved up to silver) changed her life overnight
- The various thoughts and emotions Kara went through finding out that one of the women who beat her was doping

Post-Competition
- The anti-doping case brought against Alberto Salazar
- Her involvement with the Clean Sport Collective and the pledge they ask all athletes to take
- Where and how the lines should be drawn regarding anti-doping initiatives, including with regards to Jon's experience with an experimental stem cell treatment for his chronic kidney disease
- The abuse of the therapeutic use exemption and the medicalization of the sport, and how the culture of one's training group can influence how much you question certain behaviors
- Kara's work on contract reform in the sport and how it is also a lever against performance enhancing drug use
- Kara's decision to have a child mid-career and the career-impacting challenges she faced as a result
- How the power of a few women speaking out caused all the biggest sponsors to change their contracts
- And finally, how Kara feels Go Be More represents the idea to go be more than yourself, to be part of a community and help lift others

If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with track legend Alisa Harvey and marathoner Ryan Miller.

Recorded July 29, 2020.

References:

Osaka World Championships 10000m - YouTube

Clean Sport Collective - Website, Podcast

Oiselle - website

Altra - website

Nuun - website

Strong: A Runner's Guide to Boosting Confidence and Becoming the Best Version of You by Kara Goucher - Amazon

Guest:

Kara Goucher - @karagoucher, KaraGoucher.com

Hosts:

Bryan Green - bryan@gobemore.co, maketheleapbook.com

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

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“We decided to do this triathlon in his memory. And we would raise money from family and friends and donate it to St. Jude's.”—Matthew Bach

Every opportunity brings with it highs, lows, and lessons to be learned. Matt’s story of his triathlon journey points to common themes that endurance athletes face—practical approaches to training along with refueling and resting. 

In this episode, Jon, Bryan, and Matthew compare notes on finding balance in life and welcoming the transitions that come while pursuing excellence in sports.

(2:37) Growing up in Connecticut and playing golf every day with his brother…

(4:27) Running, as a result of “peer pressure,” but eventually committing to more and more training…

(7:12) Summer coaching with Rob Murray to make the Penn State team…

(9:57) From pledging a fraternity to finding his wife…

(12:20) The story of Matt’s brother…

(15:06) Video games, card games, and lots of memories made…

(18:26) “He was the inspiration for me doing my first ever triathlon.”

(19:31) Controlled drowning and the challenges of swimming…

(24:06) Sprints, Olympics, and ½ Ironman… the reasoning behind a quick progression…

(28:53) The tremendous time commitment involved in triathlons, a supportive wife, and earning a spot at Kona…

(34:02) Transitioning from one era of triathlon to the next, while honoring his brother…

(38:25) “I knew that whatever I was doing wasn't working, because I basically plateaued in 2013.” Taking a closer look at training and nutrition…

(40:12) The game-changing introduction to UCAN…

(43:46) Coming to terms with diminishing returns and the various approaches to training…

(47:35) Looking at the critical role of experts and nutrition…

(50:47) “It was the first-ever race that had no pro field. So it left the door open for an amateur like me to take the title.” A recounting of his fantastic day at Maryland Ironman…

(55:33) A new mindset leads to a new era…

(58:50) To go pro or not…

(1:00:55) An injury makes a difficult decision easier…

(1:05:52) A new and exciting transition out of competitive triathlons…

(1:07:00) What does Go Be More mean to you?

If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with Cyclist Michael Lemos and elite runner Ryan Miller.

Recorded September 23, 2020.

References:

UCAN - website

Guest:

Matthew Bach - website, Instagram

Hosts:

Bryan Green - bryan@gobemore.co, maketheleapbook.com

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

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“My obsessiveness has led me to some wonderful places.”—Amby Burfoot

With a resume that includes a Boston Marathon win, author of many great books, and editor-in-chief for Runner’s World, you would think that Amby Burfoot is ready to “call it a day.” 

But this 70-something is still passionately pursuing “his projects,” taking advantage of life’s opportunities and inspiring those around him to do the same.

(1:44) The story behind The Runner’s Guide to the Meaning of Life…

(5:16) “The practices and skills that we utilize in running are the same that will lead us to success in education or career or family or other things.”

(9:55) Early life and how a cross-country “punishment” changed his trajectory... 

(14:10) “He is the smartest, most transformational human being I have ever met in my life, and having him as my coach absolutely changed my life.” Amby on John J. Kelley…

(21:35) Running 110 miles a week, going to bed by 9, and winning the Boston marathon. What did training look like in college?

(26:32) The best memory from the Boston victory…

(29:39) “Overnight, I went from a hundred miles a week to 30 miles a week…” It was time to get serious about something else.

(33:11) A funny Olympic story…

(35:31) How writing and running found Amby.

(38:46) The growth of success of Runner’s World…

(41:45) Sharing the secrets of working through the “blank page challenge…”

(45:25) Word constraints, attention spans, and parallels…

(50:25) There’s power in collaborating…

(54:21) Amby shares what he’s working on now…

(56:36) “Go Be More curious, Go Be More adventurous. It doesn't mean more in terms of running more. Cause I've run enough…” Sharing what Go Be More means to him...

If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with Runner's World publisher George Hirsch and former Chief Running Officer Bart Yasso.

Recorded December 9, 2020.

Artwork photo courtesy of: Tomás Greally

References:

Runner's Guide to the Meaning of Life by Amby Burfoot - Amazon

Run Forever: Your Complete Guide to Healthy Lifetime Running by Amby Burfoot - Amazon

First Ladies of Running by Amby Burfoot - Amazon

Guests:

Amby Burfoot - homepage

Hosts:

Bryan Green - bryan@gobemore.co, maketheleapbook.com

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

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“Don't just dedicate a few hours to it...have time where you do more intense focus, but I think immersing yourself into something and having things surrounding you, that has to do with that...you need to reprogram your mind that way.”—Mahdi Gilbert

Fooling Penn & Teller with masterful magic is no small deed. But once you hear this story you might NOT be surprised that Mahdi Gilbert accomplished it.

From very early in life, Mahdi was impressed by the “impossible” and immersed himself into the world of magic. With a combination of watching the “masters,” figuring things out on his own, and tricking himself into practice, he’s become a top professional in his field.

(4:15) Born without hands or feet…

(9:39) Learning to tie his shoes at 18…

(11:02) “I'm a very tactile learner and things are very intuitive to me that have to do with dexterity. I have very sensitive touch and I just know how things move.”

(16:49) What separates amateurs and professionals?

(19:33) The universal principle of immersion…

(22:14) Applying the concept of immersion to all skill-building…

(24:38) “I hate to practice old stuff, so I trick myself. I love to practice new magic, so I practice all my old material first. And then as a reward, I get to practice the new…” Tricks and the driving force…

(28:33) Not wanting to be someone who just gave up when it got hard…

(31:20) Learning to operate within limitations…

(36:15) “I think the limitations that we have or that we think we have are based in our limited understanding and our physical reality.”

(41:10) The theory of self-efficacy…

(43:40) Developing the art of performing…

(48:19) Sleight of hand in front of someone’s face…

(51:13) Connecting and engaging…

(54:08) Fooling Penn and Teller…

(58:52) What does Go Be More mean to you?

If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with performer/podcaster Audra Bryant and effects artist Will Huff.

Recorded November 18, 2020.

References:

Mahdi the Magician - website

Mahdi on Penn & Teller's Fool Us - YouTube

Guests:

Mahdi Gilbert - Instagram

Hosts:

Bryan Green - bryan@gobemore.co, maketheleapbook.com

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

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“You have to make mistakes. I mean, you have to learn the hard way.”

If you love “sitting at the feet” of a great storyteller, and you’re interested in some of the monumental movements and moments in running, then you’ll thoroughly enjoy this episode.

George colorfully recounts the details that defined the world of running as we know it now.

(2:30) Recounting the life of a good friend from New Rochelle…

(5:42) “I used to think that I could get better if I worked harder, and that's true in a lot of things in life. But it doesn't give you quickness.” Running in high school, college, and becoming a naval officer...

(8:36) A special friend, work-related projects, and being knighted—all in Italy…

(14:06) A random interview opens a door into the world of publishing…

(16:45) Magazines, Time, and Life drove the conversations of the day…

(19:48) The launching of a startup, which became New York magazine…

(23:26) “When I was getting out of college, no one was starting a business, and no one was creating something in a garage. No one was doing what you guys are doing. You went into something that existed, that was traditional.” The differences in how we approach careers now…

(27:09) The need for a few extra notches in the belt starts a running career…

(29:29) Acting on the mind-boggling idea of running the Boston Marathon…

(34:07) “It was life-affirming, Jon, it made a huge difference in every way.” ...George’s answer to what running meant to him when he started to really get into it.

(34:51) A favorite story, meeting the amazing Shay…

(40:45) Connecting a passion for running with the world of publishing through Runner’s World…

(44:39) The remarkable story behind the five boroughs of the New York City Marathon…

(51:56) Hitchhiking with Frank Shorter…

(53:56) Not every marathon has a great start. A recounting of the first Rock and Roll Marathon in San Diego…

(56:35) A running segment on Sports Center in the eighties…

(58:31) “Don't make any decisions on the uphill.” Life lessons with George…

(1:00:42) Embracing the struggle…

(1:03:22) “It's no fun to get beaten… you spend so much time and it's so hard, but, over time, I've come to look at that as a really good experience in my life. I learned things… I came out of it better.”

(1:05:54) What does Go Be More mean to you?

If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with Runner's World's Bart Yasso and running historian Gary Corbitt.

Recorded November 18, 2020.

References:

George Hirsch - Wikipedia

Runner's World - homepage

New York Road Runners - homepage

Guests:

George Hirsch - Instagram

Hosts:

Bryan Green - @sendaibry, bryan@gobemore.co

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

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“When you get used to hiding, it just becomes background noise.” —Audra Bryant

For 25 years, Audra Bryant couldn’t look at her body in a mirror. The scars of an early childhood accident defined her life, from how she dressed to who she thought she could be.

But as she pursued her dream to perform and write songs with lyrics that encouraged others, she recognized an inconsistency in her purpose and her reality. This sent her on a personal quest to “do the mirror work” she realized was missing in her life. Now she’s teaching others to accept their scars and turn them into superpowers.

(2:16) A family with some unusual math…

(4:39) An accident that shaped a life…

(8:05) The first realization that she was “different”

(12:27) “Everybody else had on a little tank top. I was the only one with a full long sleeve shirt in the summertime. And so that just became my life.”

(14:53) Hidden scars can cause you to ignore your own pain.

(18:24) “I didn't look at myself in the mirror until I was 25. I didn't look at my scars.”

(20:57) Allowing “scars” to hold us back…

(25:48) A revelation at 25…

(29:25) What was the draw towards theater and singing?

(32:58) “I just did everything covered up. But what happens is, you talked about being an artist, I really feel like a part of being an artist is being vulnerable.”

(34:55) Doing the personal work, mentally and physically…

(36:49) The power of acceptance…

(39:20) We all have experiences where we hold ourselves back…

(41:14) “Is it just about the cards that I've been dealt, or is it about how I'm playing my hand?”

(44:38) Using challenges as opportunities to educate people…

(47:47) Finding support in family, community, and sometimes therapists…

(52:42) What are you working on now?

(59:45) What does Go Be More mean to you?

If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with singers Daniel Ozan and Emme Lentino.

Recorded November 11, 2020.

References:

I've Got Scars Baby! podcast - YouTube

Scars by Audra Bryant - YouTube, Amazon

I've Got Scars Baby! Book - Pre-Order

Guest:

Audra Bryant - Instagram

Hosts:

Bryan Green - @sendaibry, bryan@gobemore.co

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

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“I think it's going to free us from the shackles of some of the things we've done in the past. As long as we can kind of weather the storm. I think ultimately it's going to be good.”—Scott Abbott

Now, as the executive director of the Sacramento Running Association, Scott can look back with clarity on the powerful impact his running experiences have had on him. 

As he and the guys reminisce about their collegiate running days, Scott also shares the powerful differences between the three “I” words—inspiration, influence, and impact.

(5:01) The importance of hard work and a good education… growing up in the Abbott household.

(9:49) Competitiveness and the “escape” that sports provided…

(11:42) How a disappointment in soccer and the promise of a trip to Disneyland opened the door to running…

(15:59) Working towards the top 10…

(19:24) “I'm pretty good at this. And this is something that could be a part of my life now moving forward.” Scott recounts the season when running became more than a trip to Disneyland.

(22:36) “You just break something down into, showing up every day, working hard, doing the task in front of you, bank it, and move on to the next. And that being the pathway to success.”

(24:45) Arriving at the decision to go to UCLA…

(26:13) Bikinis, an unusual start to practice, and brilliant recruiting methods…

(29:39) Bryan’s great Bob Larsen story…

(33:29) Realizing after the fact, how thoughtful Bob’s coaching was…Bryan’s experience

(34:43) Chasing the shadow of Bob Larsen… Jon’s experience

(37:15) Bob Larsen sees you as an individual… Scott’s experience

(39:35) “He had a greater perspective on life than I think most people do in terms of like, what's really important.” Jon reflects on one of the greatest long-distance running coaches.

(40:59) What’s missing in the world of coaching…

(44:01) Wired for coaching…

(46:21) Making a tough decision to go away from coaching but toward a life of balance…

(49:58) Facilitating running through the Sacramento Running Association…

(52:06) Planning events in the age of Covid and being creative…

(56:24) “We don't really have a lot of control over what's going to happen with the pandemic. But what we can do is have a mentality to try to come out of it stronger with new skills, with some new ability, and with some new opportunities.”

(58:17) Getting off the hamster wheel…

(1:00:32) What does Go Be More mean to you?

If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with coaches Bob Larsen Part 1 / Part 2 and Tracy Sundlun.

Recorded November 11, 2020.

References:

Sacramento Running Association - homepage

Guest:

Scott Abbott - Instagram

Hosts:

Bryan Green - @sendaibry, bryan@gobemore.co

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

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“I was a waste of God-given talent if I didn't do it.”—Daniel Ozan

When talent, hard work, and good coaching collide, dreams can be realized. 

Daniel Ozan understands what it takes to push his body and mind above and beyond what’s comfortable. 

Here, he and Bryan talk about his training as a classical vocalist and how that compares to running, the advantages of community college, and how the skills you develop can prepare you for opportunities you never expected to get.

(2:00) Where are you from, and how did you start running and singing?

(6:00) Fear of being on stage…

(9:20) Qualifying for the state meet in distance running…

(11:03) The surprising benefits of community colleges…

(14:20) What did it look like to pursue both passions?

(15:59) Are voice lessons cheating?

(19:51) Auditioning for music school… “I spend a little bit of time there fixing my shoe, and I was like, okay, I got to focus… me focusing is listening to Kanye West,  Jesus Walks, loud in my headphones…”

(23:30) The many classes involved in a Classical Voice graduate degree…

(26:09) What makes Carnegie Hall special?

(29:12) Understanding the concepts of talent, hard work, and coaching in the world of music and running…

(34:08) Having the resources to excel…

(38:37) Coaching at the junior college level… “come to the community college, develop, you'll have some good training partners, you'll get stronger and you'll get faster.”

(43:17) The challenges of singing in Southern California…

(47:58) “So I put back music in my life, and it just flourished from there.”

(50:38) Working on the first big project as an independent artist, Emotional is birthed.

(52:36) "I told my Mom one day, 'We're going to be in the studio singing together.'”

(53:43) Juggling all the big projects…

(56:03) Kids, girlfriend, and the impacts of Covid…

(1:00:27) “You don't know what you really have, until an opportunity presents itself.” And being prepared with the right skills…

(1:04:39) What does Go Be More mean to you?

If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with singer Emme Lentino or our episode on Developing Multiplier Skills.

Recorded November 4, 2020.

References:

Daniel Joshua: Emotional - Apple Music, Amazon

Daniel Joshua channel - YouTube

Mt. SAC Profile - website

Guest:

Daniel Ozan (Daniel Joshua) - Instagram

Hosts:

Bryan Green - @sendaibry, bryan@gobemore.co

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

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“You've got to keep learning. If you don't, you just get left behind.”—Chris Forbes

CEO of Kidney Health Australia, Chris Forbes, recounts his past experiences and the vision he has for serving those families who struggle with Kidney Disease. 

His innovative profit-for-purpose business approach and a focused desire to measure outcomes make it clear that this organization is in good hands.

(3:16) Growing an understanding and awareness of Kidney disease with red socks…

(7:17) A rural upbringing in South Australia…

(10:51) “...so if you can't swim, or be a sporting star, you'd be a sporting administrator. And so, I actually have worked in sport and entertainment for a long time before getting into this role.”

(14:20) UFCs example of how to continue competitions during Covid…

(16:29) Choices made by countries during Covid and balancing the economic impact…

(21:11) Backpacking, cricket, and marketing…

(23:13) “I was the most popular father in Melbourne because I got to go and see all the artists.” Chris becomes the CEO of Ticketmaster in Australia.

(27:10) “...there's that balance of pushing hard and getting the result and delivering the bottom line to taking teams on the journey to showing a vision to having them enjoy their work.” Lessons from Ticketmaster…

(28:37) The metrics of success…

(32:14) How do you keep a charity transparent enough so that people don’t demonize making money…

(35:36) Where are efforts focused in Kidney Health Australia?

(38:14) The inherent problems of aging out of the pediatric kidney ward…

(40:45) What to do about the trauma of dialysis and transplants…

(42:30) Kidney disease and how it’s impacted by other health conditions, requires partnerships.

(45:55) Addressing systemic health-care issues is a global concern…

(49:56) “We have to focus on outcomes, not activity.” Measuring outcomes allows you to manage time better.

(52:13) There’s a need to talk about kidney preservation before it gets to kidney failure.

(54:53) The stories that stand out…

(58:19) What does Go Be More mean to Chris Forbes?

If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with Nephrotic Syndrome Foundation CEO Andi Callaway and kidney warrior Hailey Hogan.

Recorded November 11, 2020.

References:

Kidney Health Australia - homepage, Twitter

KHA's Red Socks Appeal - website

Guest:

Chris Forbes - Twitter

Hosts:

Bryan Green - @sendaibry, bryan@gobemore.co

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

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“Every day is a new challenge, but also a new blessing, a new lesson.”—Jasmine Sanchez

If you’re stuck in analysis paralysis or fear keeps you from taking the first step towards your dreams, this episode is for you. The determined energy of these twenty-something dreamers is contagious. 

Jasmine and Jalen talk with Jon and Bryan about what is REALLY involved in building a brand and creating something out of nothing.

(1:39) A promising relationship made through a LinkedIn connection…

(5:27) Making time for mentoring…

(8:33) Jasmine’s early years and influences…

(12:13) From football to skateboarding to eBay sales—Jalen’s trajectory toward entrepreneurship

(20:11) Jalen’s solution to acquiring the “latest and greatest” sneakers…

(23:44) A lesson in the power of TRUST…

(26:25) Why hydration products? “As I was experiencing all these pain points with all the hydration products on the market, I was just thinking, the only thing you really need is one of these water packs that go inside of a backpack.”

(30:51) Like-minds connect over entrepreneurial dreams…

(32:22) How do you tackle making a product that doesn’t exist?

(33:57) When you realize you need more help…

(36:56) Stress, perspectives, and the roller coaster of emotions…

(38:18) Why mentorships help…

(40:09) Divide and conquer...making sure the responsibilities are covered while working full-time jobs…

(43:32) “...people, process, and priorities… you have to have all three in alignment if you're going to actually be successful.”

(45:36) Strategizing, delegating, and the learning curves of developing a business…

(50:12) “We wouldn't be entrepreneurs if it weren't a challenge. I think both of us enjoy working through the challenges and rolling with the punches. We are taking one day at a time and finding a way to make this product come to light.”

(53:05) Juggling, structure, and thriving in chaos…

(58:20) What does Go Be More mean to Jasmine and Jalen?

If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with consultant Toni Semanskee and runner/entrepreneur Bryan Lindsay.

Recorded October 28, 2020.

References:

Vessel Athletics - homepage, Instagram

Guests:

Jasmine Sanchez - Instagram

Jalen Brown - Instagram

Hosts:

Bryan Green - @sendaibry, bryan@gobemore.co

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

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“I feel like Go Be More is how much you can do, in your current situation, in the state that you are in, at that moment in time—no matter how big or small.”

From an early age, Jasmine Shen had plans for her life that included being on stage, working hard, and pursuing her passions. 

They certainly did not include a serious health diagnosis.

But with composure and courage beyond her years, she is facing a future that includes uncertainty, relapses, and unwelcome medications. It’s hard to NOT be inspired by this young woman’s positive and authentic perspective.

(4:51) Communication is key…

(8:13) Stressed to the max at 12 and losing hair…

(10:50) Breaking the news to Dad of wanting to be a performer…

(15:30) “And I remember sitting next to my mom and whispering to her because I didn't want to interrupt, 'Mom, that's what I want to do. What they're doing on the stage I want to do.'” The inspiration of the Lion King musical…

(19:14) Pressures of school and dance and legs feeling tight…

(23:31) Ridiculously tired…

(25:00) “...the annoying thing about kidney disease is that you can look at someone and not know they have it because actually, we look very normal.”

(26:18) Chronic fatigue, chronic crying, and puffy eyes…

(29:11) A misdiagnosis, high levels of albumin, and an urgent need to go to the hospital…

(35:44) The first time staying overnight in the hospital…

(39:06) Kidney biopsy experiences for Jon and Jasmine…

(46:16) The diagnosis of Minimal Change Disease…

(48:05) “...so you're going to go on this drug called prednisone, it's a steroid and you're going to get fat.” An uncaring doctor’s declaration…

(50:56) Prednisone and it’s many unpleasant side effects…

(54:05) Developing an eating disorder in the midst of dealing with prednisone…

(56:20) Refusal of a hospital counselor and the advice Jasmine would give to someone now…

(59:35) “... you know what, Jaz, you just have to suck it up because some people out there in the world who have the same condition as you can't even afford medication.” Coming to terms with the knowledge of a relapse…

(1:06:06) Facing the unknown…

(1:08:22) Wise words from Dad…

(1:11:13) What does Go Be More mean to you?

If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with Nephrotic Syndrome Foundation founder Andi Callaway or listen to Jon's Kidney Disease Story.

Recorded October 28, 2020.

References:

Nephrotic Syndrome Foundation - website

Guest:

Jasmine Shen - Instagram

Hosts:

Bryan Green - bryan@gobemore.co, maketheleapbook.com

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

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“Write what you're writing as if it's the last thing you will ever write, don't save anything, just put it in there.”—Matt Fitzgerald

If listening in on one man’s passions is inspiring, then this conversation is three times better. 

Jon, Bryan, and Matt all share a love for the written word and clocking in the miles. Here they compare notes on crafting poetry, elite-level training principles, and not settling for doing things you don’t want to do.

(2:47) Growing up in New Hampshire, Dad’s influence, and what goes into running and writing careers…

(6:18) “...what every writer can be, is UNIQUE... you can do something that only you're doing…” And the best advice for writers…

(8:44) Lockdown coping through poetry…

(11:18) A singular purpose started in third grade…

(14:05) What having a low tolerance for doing stuff you don’t want to do can accomplish…

(15:33) Dad normalized running marathons...

(18:14) Is running fun or rewarding?

(22:16) A big regret…

(26:14) “I got the job. I was able to correctly identify Dave Scott, the legendary triathlete, in the interview…” And a lucky break with Bill Petoskey.

(31:34) Do you interrupt a rhythm of being productive? And what does it mean to pace your writing?

(36:22) Running the Dream, Iron War… and finding a writing stride…

(42:15) “...it's not about how much money I make or how much success I have or all the things I accomplished that matter to me. The only thing that I'll be able to take it to my grave is how I make people feel.”—Trevor Noah

(45:56) George Plimpton, Running the Dream, an experiment, and being relatable…

(51:24) The desire to join the sub 2:40 club…

(55:13) “It doesn't really matter what your goal is. The workouts are based off of what you can do.” A coaching mentality…

(59:34) A favorite running moment for Jon…

(1:03:02) Transformation, Covid, and a 2:54 solo marathon…

(1:08:02) What does Go Be More mean to you?

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Recorded October 21, 2020.

References:

80/20 Running - Amazon

Iron War - Amazon

How Bad Do You Want It? - Amazon

Running the Dream - Amazon

The Comeback Quotient (Pre-Order) - Amazon

Guest:

Matt Fitzgerald - homepage, Instagram

Hosts:

Bryan Green - @sendaibry, bryan@gobemore.co

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

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“I had an uber-talented group of guys to run with and train with, and they taught me many of the lessons and principles for distance running and coaching that I still employ to this day.”—Ryan Miller

In a world where so many people seek to hide their struggles, this transparent conversation with Ryan Miller is refreshing. 

He reminds us that every elite athlete has their own road to success, and he openly shares excellent advice for others who struggle with depression, anxiety, and eating disorders. As a father, husband, friend, and coach, he models what it looks like to work towards being happy and healthy.

(1:49) Distance runners are a special breed…

(5:19) Supportive parents, lots of activities, and finding running…

(11:23) “We worked our butts off for the next 12 months, and we actually won the national championship.” 

(14:17) Life outside of running pursuits… and the priority of family.

(17:24) Choosing a job that works with your desired lifestyle…

(19:37) Why Texas A&M? And what was the running experience like?

(23:35) Battling through depression, anxiety, and eating disorders…

(26:37) “I kind of view those things, all those characteristics that each of us has individually as tools. And tools can be used for good or bad, depending on how you use the tool.”

(29:47) Advice for those listening that are struggling with depression, anxiety, or eating disorders…

(32:20) Meal plans, being honest, and exuding more confidence…

(35:02) There’s power in tracking things like food and time…

(37:44) Transitioning to longer events after college…

(40:34) Training with a team versus individual training, which works best?

(44:10) Support networks, staying motivated, and the power in collaborating…

(48:44) “His philosophy is defined as sustainability and consistency in training, and we don't have to go out and do 30, 40, 50-mile long runs in training…” 

(52:57) Two directions that elite runners go…

(54:45) What does Go Be More mean to you?

If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with elite miler Will Leer and Olympian Kara Goucher.

Recorded October 21, 2020.

References:

2009 Nike Cross Country Nationals - Runnerspace

SWAP Running - homepage

Guest:

Ryan Miller - @ryanmiller34, ryan.miller.coaching@gmail.com

Hosts:

Bryan Green - @sendaibry, bryan@gobemore.co

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

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“Holy crap, this is insane. I can build something and stuff this AI inside of it, and suddenly it's not a puppet, it's not a prop. It's a real robot.” 

Take a step behind the scenes of some of Hollywood’s most epic movies with make-up effects artist Will Huff.

Jon and Bryan are blown away by his crazy work ethic and forward-momentum into the world of artificial intelligence. Will gives anyone he meets new respect for passionately pursuing a hobby.

(2:37) From a small town in Ohio, a lifelong passion begins to take root…

(6:49) A correspondence course with Dick Smith opens up a world of opportunity…

(8:58) Babylon Five, the union, and an avalanche of films…

(11:47) Specialization in make-up effects…

(13:04) “I knew immediately I had this affinity for, taking rubber things and making them move and look like something that's alive. And that's called animatronics.” Will talks about how he crossed over into robotics.

(15:34) How CGI changed the landscape…

(20:20) Taking advantage of the down-time from a back injury to learn a new skillset…

(23:44) “We're going back old school. We're going to get real physical puppets.” There’s a resurgence of doing things the way it was done before CGI in some genres.

(25:10) A day in the life of a make-up effects artist, on the set of “The Curious Case of Benjamin Button”...

(31:42) Trying to understand the incredible work ethic…

(34:22) “... it’s like a velvet-lined coffin… we're selling our souls and we're killing ourselves with these hours, but the velvet is the paycheck and that's just a great, wonderful by-product…”

(36:51) Introduction to building a functional robot through the “Lost in Space” B9 robot.. And artificial intelligence comes on the scene…

(40:12) “Holy crap. We could have robots walking around and doing stuff for us.”

(41:13) The problem with the “uncanny valley”...

(45:39) What’s holding back consumer robots?

(50:24) “What story are we telling ourselves?” Jon talks about changing the narrative.

(55:27) “I believe so wholeheartedly in the good parts of robotics… we had so many people at CES talk about the elderly and lonely people and just having somebody to talk to…”

(59:06) The sky’s the limit… even in your backyard.

(1:01:20) What does Go Be More mean to you?

If you liked this episode, check out our interviews videographer Von Ware or our discussion of multiplier skills.

Recorded October 14, 2020.

References:

Robomodix - Homepage

Who is Will Huff? - YouTube

Bartender Droid videos - YouTube

Guest:

Will Huff - YouTube

Hosts:

Bryan Green - @sendaibry, bryan@gobemore.co

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

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“I think that human connection is the whole reason why I'm doing what I'm doing.”—Emme Lentino

We’ve all felt the power that words can have when connecting to the lyrics in a favorite song. But for Emme Lentino, struggling through some of life’s heartbreaks led her to put pen to paper and write songs that would resonate with others.

In this special episode, she and Jon transparently chat about lofty dreams, inevitable hardships, and all the SEASONS in between.

(2:34) Positive parents, extracurricular activities, and theatrical performances…

(5:16) Dad’s influence of country music and good songwriting…

(7:44) “It was really heartbreaking to have lost someone that was not that much older than me, and it really left an impression on me.” A family tragedy led to Emme’s first song.

(11:28) A firm foundation rooted in love and faith…

(13:03) Jon shares the connection he felt between being raised to practice faith and having big dreams.

(16:22) There’s peace in surrendering your efforts to God…

(19:13) The ups and downs of teens and twenties…

(23:47) Ski lifts, storytime with Emme, and seeking connections…

(28:37) How keeping it real, keeps you relatable…

(34:04) The transition into a full-time music career…

(36:25) Not excepting “No” 

(38:38) “When you're a dreamer, and you're painting that canvas with your dreams, you need these moments of validation that what you're doing matters.” Jon shares a powerful analogy.

(41:56) The birth of “Seasons of Life”...

(47:39) Bringing storylines to life through music videos and the debut of “Some Other Girl.”

(51:17) “I think probably the most important thing is that it is a song about heartbreak, on the surface. But if people listen to it and get to the bridge, they realize that it's actually a song of empowerment.” Emme sheds light on the meaning of her newest song.

(54:34) Everyone’s journey looks different…

(57:02) What does Go Be More mean to Emme?

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Recorded October 7, 2020.

References:

Some Other Girl - YouTube

Oxygen - YouTube

Seasons of Life - YouTube

Guest:

Emme Lentino - Homepage, Instagram, Facebook

Host:

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

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“Do you want to be right? Or do you want to be happy?”—Rick Harrison

Sometimes, all it takes to handle the stressors that come our way is a compelling strategy. In fact, it can be the difference between floundering or thriving. Neutral Thinking, coined by Trevor Moawad, is a strategy employed by elite athletes, business leaders, and special forces members.

But it’s actually an approach that each of us can use in our day-to-day conversations. It gets to the heart of what is directing our behaviors and gives us a more productive way to handle our emotions.

(3:23) “Be the change that you want to see.” Jon shares his desire to become more involved politically, in a non-traditional sense. And Bryan introduces the idea of Neutral Thinking.

(5:09) The “climate” in America and a long list of daily stressors…

(7:30) A more objective perspective of what you define as good or bad…

(11:31) “...it's just too easy to fall into a negative thought pattern and a negative way of thinking.” Jon shares his Olympic-level experiences and the internal conversations he had to shape.

(14:01) Accepting that things are what they are…

(15:14) Racism, slavery, and police brutality…

(18:39) What behaviors are going to give you the outcome you desire?

(21:52) The point of a conversation is to get somewhere…

(25:05) “Neutral Thinking gives us an opportunity to be different and still be together.”

(27:43) Jon’s mindset shift in 2005…

(30:40) The strategy of pacing and leading…

(32:53) “The past is the past and whatever happened in the past, doesn't dictate what's going to happen in the future.”

(35:07) The presidential role and what people can do for one another…

(38:39) How much influence does the President have on our daily lives?

(42:48) Reduce negativity by being intentional about who you surround yourself with…

(45:34) The concept of loss aversion...

(48:42) The 10x stronger effect of voicing thoughts…

(51:40) “It's about making things better in the moment and making good decisions in high stress situations, in high stress environments.”

(53:52) Goals should impact behavior, and your behavior dictates what you achieve.

(58:08) Think through and plan the right behaviors…

(1:00:06) Practice moving negative thoughts aside…

(1:04:19) The need to make the right decisions is an ongoing practice...

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Recorded October 25, 2020.

References:

Upgrade Your Interactions with Neutral Thinking - Go Be More Blog

It Takes What It Takes by Trevor Moawad - Amazon

Kirk Kellerhals interview - GBM Podcast

Hosts:

Bryan Green - @sendaibry, bryan@gobemore.co

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

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“You need to be able to look at me and understand that you can trust me when you need me most. I'm going to be there, and I'm going to be the strongest possible person I can be on any given day for any given call.”—Jeff Nolet

Overcoming obstacles with a strong work ethic and a fierce internal drive is what continues to propel Jeff Nolet forward. 

In this episode, he shares the difficult childhood experiences that made him the focused firefighter he is today. His intentional approach towards: goals, life-long learning, and overcoming the hurdles that life throws at you, will undoubtedly inspire you to Go Be More.

(3:21) Comparing the work of urban firefighters and wildland firefighters is similar to comparing sprinters to marathoners.

(7:15) The biggest concern with the California wildfires is evacuation… Jeff shares the differences between the two types of firefighting.

(12:15) Bryan grapples with the perspective of hundreds of miles of burning fires…

(14:22) “I was in fifth grade, and I remember I was in my bed, and my mom woke me up and she said, ‘Jeffrey, you got to get up and go outside. There's a fire in the building.’” Jeff shares what inspired him to be a firefighter.

(18:41) Playing baseball and basketball…

(20:10) The very competitive and rigorous path to becoming a firefighter…

(23:08) The seriousness of burnt cookies…

(27:06) Jeff talks about going through the Academy and what equipped him to be one of 17 that got through…

(29:55) Micro achievements or Next Step goals are the way to North Star goals…

(31:08) How a military Dad motivates…

(36:46) Most parents, nowadays…

(39:20) Reflecting on a mom’s powerful influence…

(49:21) “You are who you surround yourself with.” Jeff shares the value of being the dumbest person in the room.

(52:53) Leadership should be dynamic to be motivating.

(55:43) The Art of War by Sun Tzu and it’s invaluable analogies on motivating the masses…

(57:32) “Filling all the boxes…”

(1:01:52) Jon talks about the price of being obsessed with one thing…

(1:05:49) The poem Invictus…

(1:08:41) “So I think for me, it's focusing on who you are, what you want to do, and who you want to become as a person.” Jeff shares his thoughts on what it means to, Go Be More.

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Recorded October 2, 2020.

References:

Jeff Makes Lifesaving Rescue - HamletHub

Art of War by Sun Tzu - Amazon

Invictus - Poetry Foundation

Teddy Roosevelt's Man in the Arena Speech - World Future Fund

Guest:

Jeff Nolet

Hosts:

Bryan Green - @sendaibry, Go Be More Blog

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

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“I don't believe we'll ever recognize our need for the light until we've seen the depth of the darkness.”—Kirk Kellerhals

Kirk Kellerhals experienced a “full-circle” moment when a woman in an email said she thought he was her son. 

After living 50-years with a missing piece to his identity-puzzle, Kirk received the gift of learning about his biological roots. Here he shares how running and faith pulled him through dark times and how a documentary is his way of paying the “gift” forward to Vietnam vets and adoptees.

(2:43) Eight-thousand miles away, in 1969, a boy was born. Kirk tells about his early days.

(5:24) Standing out like a “sore thumb…”

(8:52) Playing sports, marching in the band, and staying out of trouble…

(11:09) Enrolled in the East Texas police academy…

(12:05) A “front-row seat” to a real protest in front of the White House…

(16:46) How the word “dehumanizing” applies to both sides of the conflict.

(18:49) Jon takes advantage of an opportunity to show compassion and support.

(22:42) We all have chances to escalate or de-escalate moments.

(24:35) “What I say to people is not nearly as important as how I make them feel.”

(25:59) From hating running to loving it, Kirk shares his transformation and how it led to meeting Jon.

(34:03) Witness Through Fitness, building community with running and faith…

(37:57) An incredible story of discovering his roots…

(40:43) A life-changing email…

(46:02) “It didn't take long to realize that this is my mother. I'm like, Holy moly. She's been looking for me for my 48 years. And...I'm talking to her.”

(50:19) The immediate bond with my mother, father, and siblings…

(52:05) Taking a lot less for granted…

(53:42) Dark places leading to purpose—photojournalism, documentaries, and sharing blessings…

(58:03) “Well, it's definitely a work in progress. And one of the things I'm finding, especially about a documentary that's as in-depth as this one, is it's very fluid.”

(1:02:20) What’s the impact you want the documentary to have?

(1:05:36) Putting the pieces together for Vietnam veterans…

(1:09:42) “We have always, our entire lives, had that stigma. That negative stigma, that Vietnam War hanging over our heads. I call it the Pigpen Syndrome.”

(1:13:40) What does Go Be More mean to you?

(1:17:12) “The Vietnam War was not all negative. There was a lot of good that came out of it.”

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Recorded September 14, 2020.

References:

Sacred Heart Film - Facebook

SEACoast2Coast Foundation - Facebook

Guest:

Kirk Kellerhals - Instagram

Hosts:

Bryan Green - @sendaibry, Go Be More Blog

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

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 “I remember still vividly, day 15, halfway through, I'm like, ‘Oh crap, I'm getting stronger. Let me try this.' And I went down even further, and I was like, 'Oh, I did a pushup.’”—Hula Ramos

Hula Ramos is not just a larger-than-life radio personality. He’s the kind of guy you connect with almost instantaneously. Here he shares how his early life adventures equipped him to entertain and relate with his audience.

He transparently shares his struggles with identifying as “the fat guy.” And he uses his platform to help others realize they aren’t alone.

(2:48) Growing up on the crazy wild side of Spring Valley, CA.

(6:00) Diversity was the norm…

(8:52) The pressure of good grades, being creative, and living the latchkey lifestyle…

(12:56) A Forrest Gump trip turns into a 3-year adventure of finding out how others live.

(15:42) “It was an eye opening time for me because I experienced things like racism.” Hula talks about what it was like to walk outside of the Spring Valley bubble.

(19:01) Learning the skill of being a chameleon…

(21:59) How an internship changed everything…

(23:30) Naked doorbell ditching, stuntman, and radio entertaining before YouTube was a thing…

(26:16) “I always said I was the chunky but funky one in the family.” Hula shares how he wrestled with his weight and identity from a young age.

(28:37) Using his platform to break stereotypes…

(31:04) “Why do you keep sharing your dirty laundry?” Hula shares how his popularity eventually won his parents’ approval.

(33:45) Several people, sharing the details of life through a 6 AM morning show…

(40:22) “It's about being comfortable in your own skin.” How social media can advance your career and help you love yourself.

(42:38) Being relatable leads to connecting…

(44:59) Being the catalyst of change for someone else…

(46:41) “I just now enjoyed the fact that you told me that you enjoyed that.”

(48:13) Losing a job in radio but gaining a podcast…

(49:19) My weight issues…

(54:06) Raising a daughter with an intellectual disability…

(58:00) “...when my wife met me, she had listened to me on the radio. So she knew that I shared my life on the air.” Sharing so others know they aren’t alone…

(1:02:58) Helping siblings in families with special needs to not feel ashamed…

(1:06:23) The consistency of the Just One Challenge… Hula shares his personal journey of a changed life.

(1:12:06) Jon’s favorite aspect of Go Be More…

(1:15:35) EVERYONE can start with just one pushup.

(1:20:53) Growing the Just One Challenge community…

(1:24:00) The magic of day 15 or 20…

(1:25:03) “You hear the words Go Be More, and you think, 'Oh, you know, I want to be better than I was.'” Hula talks about what the phrase means to him.

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Recorded September 14, 2020.

References:

Life With Hula Podcast - Buzzsprout

Just One Challenge - @justone.challenge

Guest:

Hula Ramos - @hulasd

Hosts:

Bryan Green - @sendaibry, Go Be More Blog

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

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“We're all put here on earth for a purpose. My purpose is to be someone else's eyes.” —Jerome Avery

Jerome has been able to “connect the dots” of how his life experiences prepared him for his purpose. Here he shares with Jon and Bryan all of the influences that impacted the path he’s on today. 

He passionately shares the inspiring stories of Paralympians who overcome daily life challenges that we take for granted. His vision for finding “selfless” elites to stand alongside these amazing athletes motivates his work.

(2:54) Jerome’s early life, his introduction to track and field, and discovering the gift of speed…

(8:52) What happens when you have supportive parents, a good work ethic, and natural talent…

(11:09) “I have the slumdog millionaire life.” Jerome shares how his competitive experiences on the track prepared him to know what his runners needed to hear.

(13:30) Looking back at influences… community college, Tommy Smith, and the Olympic dream.

(16:44) Happy to be at the trials but not quite prepared mentally…

(18:24) An invite to the Olympic training center changed everything.

(20:14) “...in order for me to be a great guide runner, I had to have success through selflessness.”

(22:58) An opportunity to go to Athens, Greece as a guide runner…

(25:49) 50,000 pairs of eyes, a mistake, and a silver medal…

(29:46) “Those journeys from me being an individual athlete kick in.”

(31:47) Different classifications mean different challenges and techniques.

(35:47) Some of the athletes Jerome has trained and the places he has run…

(37:28) The goal of being a contract guide runner and matching guides with athletes from other countries…

(39:18) Being in it for the right reasons…

(43:36) How do Paralympians want to be seen and treated?

(49:16) Paralympians versus Olympians, can they be compared?

(51:35) How is Covid impacting training?

(58:49) Training as usual…

(59:08) The challenges of having enough guide runners… and Jerome’s foundation, “Guiding Lives.”

(1:02:17) “You can't tell me that in the United States, there're only three or four vision-impaired athletes that are elite.” Jerome addresses the need for a growing awareness.

(1:05:23) What does Go Be More mean to you?

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Recorded September 23, 2020.

References:

2016 Rio Paralympic Games 100m Final - YouTube

2017 London Para World Championships 100m Final - YouTube

Guest:

Jerome Avery - Instagram

Hosts:

Bryan Green - @sendaibry, Go Be More Blog

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

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“I believe it's how you react to the situations you're in, that can give you the results you want.”—Tina Ramos

A world of exciting purpose opened up to Tina at a young age when she was first exposed to group fitness classes. With a desire to make changes in her life, she fully committed to being physically active. Then later, she found a passion for leading others to better health.

Listen in as Tina, Jon, and Bryan talk about the challenges in getting started, the joys of coaching, and how the Just One Challenge can create new opportunities to Go Be More. 

(3:09) Life as a kid and trying many sports…

(6:24) From Step Aerobics to Kickboxing and everything in between… group fitness classes open up a whole new world.

(11:35) Hurtful comments become a source of motivation.

(15:26) “If there's something about yourself that you aren't comfortable with or something that you don't like, there's a way to try to fix that or to try to change that so you can make things right.” Tina works to make changes through fitness.

(19:25) Teaching group fitness allowed for opportunities to inspire others…

(21:23) “But the reality is trying things out from a fitness standpoint; it's never going to really hurt you.”

(23:39) There’s power in the one-on-one connection of personal training…

(26:40) “If you're passionate about something, it makes all the difference because the passion will drive that motivation…” Tina shares what she feels is her purpose.

(27:33) Jon’s experiences with mentoring and coaching…

(32:51) Transitioning from student to teacher…

(36:49) The various types of classes Tina has taught…

(40:01) “And I felt like this is the best opportunity for me to be able to spend as much time as I possibly can while they're young and just enjoy those moments because they're so precious.” Tina shares about being a full-time Mom.

(45:18) “Building a skills network” a degree in global business…

(49:12) How Tina became involved with the Just One Challenge…

(51:42) It’s all about getting started.

(53:45) The superhero qualities of Billy Blanks…

(58:24) Current and future plans…

(1:01:42) “Go Be More, to me means, to get out there and do things that you never thought were possible…” Tina shares her thoughts on what Go Be More means to her.

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Recorded September 14, 2020.

References:

Billy Blanks's Tae Bo Nation - website

Just One Challenge - Instagram

Guest:

Tina Ramos - Instagram

Hosts:

Bryan Green - @sendaibry, Go Be More Blog

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

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“I wish I could be Bart Yasso, even if it was just for a day. ... I wish I could be Bart Yasso but I don't want to do all that running crap that he does.”—Young Autistic Friend of Bart

It seems that no one on the planet has made more friends at the finish line than Bart Yasso. He has always been drawn to connecting with other runners and digging past the superficial, to hear the REAL stories.

Here he chats with Jon and Bryan about the powerful value of a connected running community, his Runner’s World feats, his fight with Lyme Disease, and how he still strives to Go Be More.

(3:50) Bart shares about his childhood and how running one mile changed everything.

(6:16) George challenges Bart to a 10K race.

(8:46) “Till you get into the running community and get immersed in it, you don't know how powerful it is. But it's a force.” Bart shares about his first experiences with running clubs.

(10:25) Running idols?

(12:12) Willie Mtolo, accomplishing amazing things despite the difficult training circumstances of apartheid. 

(15:09) Running can create opportunities that wouldn’t otherwise exist.

(16:23) The fantastic work-ethic of Meb…

(20:24) “If this sport of running can suppress something as evil as apartheid, even just for 12 hours, that's the sport I want to do for the rest of my life.”

(21:34) The personal and powerful effects that running can have…

(24:44) “Oh my gosh, like, this is the thing that's going to get me to where I want to be in life.”

(26:54) What really mattered when Bart retired.

(27:44) Running with the Amish and a special letter from an autistic boy…

(32:37) “But I guarantee you so many runners inspire people like this, and they never know it.” Bart shares other stories.

(34:23) The start of his dream opportunity with Runner’s World…

(39:49) Bart’s Mom…

(42:03) Running marathons and doing all the things to eventually focusing on the running festivities.

(44:56) The story of Ted and George running around Manhattan…

(47:47) Running through the Dignitary Gates, being chased by rhinos, the Kilimanjaro marathon, and other incredible runs…

(52:28) “...they're so small, as the size of a grain of pepper, you don't even know they're there.” Bart shares his experiences with Lyme Disease.

(58:25) Everyone has a personal battle…

(1:04:22) What is Bart’s focus now?

(1:09:04) What does Go Be More mean to Bart?

If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with Mr. Marathon Tracy Sundlun or Shoe4Africa's Toby Tanser.

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Recorded September 16, 2020.

References:

Bart's Website - BartYasso.com

Yasso 800s - RunnersWorld

My Life on the Run by Bart Yasso - Amazon

Runner's World Race Everything by Bart Yasso - Amazon

Guest:

Bart Yasso - @bartyasso

Hosts:

Bryan Green - @sendaibry, Go Be More Blog

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

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Links:

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

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“There must be somebody else just like me. I really need to find another mom. I really need to find another six-year-old boy who's going through this.”—Andi Callaway

We’re always inspired by real-life stories of those who turn THEIR challenges into blessings for others. Here Jon, Bryan, and Andi expose the hard truths of navigating kidney disease.

Andi recounts how she had to become an expert on nephrotic syndrome when her son was diagnosed at the young age of six. She and her husband eventually founded NSF, the Nephrotic Syndrome Foundation, with the intent to improve the journey for others, one family at a time.

(2:50) Andi shares the childhood experiences that inevitably shaped who she is as a Mom.

(7:12) Running, and transferable life lessons…

(10:28) A good work ethic and track…

(13:54) “...finance is such an important background to have. And if you have it, you can do whatever you want…” Andi shares many of her jobs as an adult.

(17:55) High-speed DSL, start-ups, and 70 hours a week…

(24:24) A new journey begins…pulling back to raise a family.

(27:48) “I can get behind anything. I love everything...I love anything. I just think there's so much good out there. I can really find passion and interest in pretty much anything.” Andi shares about getting involved in local charities.

(29:35) Wilson’s symptoms begin to show up.

(33:53) What steroids do to a six-year-old…

(37:04) Desperately in need of connection… and the origins for NSF.

(40:07) “I kind of realized that what moved me so much... was really serving that mom and that dad and that patient, the family and the child and the siblings…”

(43:34) What is nephrotic syndrome, exactly?

(47:11) Relapses, triggers, and regimens—what works for Wilson?

(49:56) “I think that this is a marathon, not a sprint. And you know, we started that journey with a lot of grace for ourselves.”

(52:07) Starting with the Backpacks of Hope program…

(56:54) How COVID 19 has impacted NSF and bringing hope through connections.

(1:01:41) It’s the tip of the iceberg… how the healthcare system handles kidney disease.

(1:04:35) The power in parent communities…

(1:06:37) When the insurance company won’t cover a medication…

(1:09:27) How’s Wilson doing today?

(1:10:50) What does Go Be More mean to you?

If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with kidney disease survivors Jeremy Bedig or listen to Jon's Kidney Disease Story.

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Recorded September 9, 2020.

References:

Nephrotic Syndrome Foundation - website

Guest:

Andi Callaway - @nephroticsyndromefoundation

Hosts:

Bryan Green - @sendaibry, Go Be More Blog

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

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“There are so many different platforms out there for people who want to be their best runner, but there are very few platforms out there that are trying to help people truly fall in love with the sport of running.”—Will Leer

Personal journeys are as unique as the runners who share them, and often the lessons are found in the details. 

Join us as popular running personality, Will Leer, recalls his experiences as a D3 runner, how a lack of confidence impacted him, the simple solution to a health issue, and where his running shoes are taking him now.

(1:30) Jon welcomes his peer, his competitor, his friend...

(4:55) Growing up in Minneapolis, supportive parents, a competitive grandmother, and never considering track and field…

(10:41) “I’m here to be a better soccer player,” and other statements that quickly led Will to middle distance running.

(15:06) From blustery Minnesota to balmy Pomona…

(18:48) “I can't play Scrabble without like sweating through my armpits…” Winning the conference 1500 as a freshman…

(19:31) It was like a deflating balloon after two miles… knowing that something was not right.

(23:40) “I put a lot of pressure on myself, but then that didn’t happen.” Will shares the trials of his collegiate career.

(26:22) How a rival can take you to new heights. Will talks about friend and running great, Nick Symmonds.

(28:16) 7-11, a case of beer, and an NCAA backpack… taking notes on advice for a fast 1500.

(33:10) “These are human beings, accomplishing things that are superhuman or that you deem as superhuman...I  think I can, I can do that. I can do something or maybe not exactly that, but like I can come pretty damn close.”

(37:33) Low points, tantrums, and great advice…

(42:07) Will recounts his favorite running accomplishment.

(49:43) “I could almost write the story of how Jon felt going into that race versus how I felt because I didn't have the Olympic standard…”

(54:35) From D3 to the biggest stage...Feeling like he shouldn’t be at the Olympic trials.

(58:16) Changing limiting beliefs and SELF-expectations.

(1:02:49) “I kind of feel like it's the same thing with making it to the level that we compete at, Will... at the end of the day, I'm like humbly speaking, you know, there wasn't another runner in the world that wasn't clearly better than me. And I felt that. I could see that.”

(1:07:08) What’s up next for Will?

(1:11:21) “I think that one of the great things about running is that it does require you to constantly challenge your personal beliefs of what you're capable of.” Will shares his view on the phrase, Go Be More.

If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with fellow D3 elite Ben Auerbach and sub-four miler Bryan Lindsay.

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Recorded August 19, 2020.

References:

Training For the Win - trainingftw.com

Will Leer - Wikipedia

Nick Symmonds - Wikipedia

2008 Olympic Trials 1500m Final - YouTube

Guest:

Will Leer - @williamleer

Hosts:

Bryan Green - @sendaibry, Go Be More Blog

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

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“In life, you have to start your own adventure. You have to be the instigator of your own story.”—Toby Tanser

So many times, we focus on the results of a success story. And we miss the “small” but monumental life lessons in the day-to-day experiences.

In this episode, Jon and Bryan are captivated by the unexpected exploits of Toby Tanser. He shares multiple accounts of “seemingly insignificant” crossroads he faced. And you’ll learn the unbelievable series of events that eventually led to Shoe4Africa and the realization of Shoe4Africa Children’s Hospital in Eldoret, Kenya.

Show Notes

(3:07) When a theater is your personal playground…  Toby shares about his early childhood and teen years.

(9:43) “It was miserable because now I didn't know where food was coming from...we budgeted ourselves one cheese sandwich a day, and we didn't have money for anything over that.”

(12:03) Gaining an understanding of how an immigrant feels…

(15:16) From banjos and soccer balls to quitting the cross country team, Toby tries to find his own identity.

(21:29) “Everything in my life I've done that’s positive has been by mistake.” Toby recounts all the jobs and random opportunities that allowed him to live his “gypsy” lifestyle.

(28:33) A blast from the past—Sebastian Coe and his impact…

(33:47) “It’s time to actually change.” Toby began to run.

(35:25) Negative influences were all around.

(41:30) Police motorbikes, spectators, a big win, and a Nike rep…

(48:06) A millionaire’s lifestyle without the money and a move to Sweden.

(52:00) An “Irish Leprechaun,” Noel Berkeley strikes a deal for a Swedish wife, and two friends plan to go to Kenya.

(59:43) Getting dumped, lost bags, and judging cabbies by their teeth…

(1:06:15) How a 40-minute run achieves a lifelong dream of running with Kenyans.

(1:13:18) Not being able to sleep turns into producing a bestseller.

(1:21:37) “And I'm standing next to a guy who can't even get the pair of shoes, but you know, can run ten times faster than me. So I started to think like maybe my position in life is not to be the runner that I wanted to be. Maybe I can be the person that helps you.”

(1:27:03) A picturesque run on the beach almost cost him his life.

(1:35:06) “And it was very strange because it felt like somebody was coming with a bullhorn and screaming get up, you're not supposed to end here.”

(1:41:58) A wooden bench, a Somali nurse, and no fluorescent lights… Toby’s 1st experience with an African hospital.

(1:53:46) Brain surgery 11 days later…

(1:59:38) Running with Martha Stewart’s assistant in New York on 9/11…

(2:02:30) “And I said, I need to stop doing races, and I need to put time on this shoe program and health program.”

(2:05:32) The problem with charities…

(2:11:30) Empowerment, education, and health…

(2:15:02) “The best gift you can give a nation is healthy citizens.”

(2:18:43) 9 out of 10 kids with cancer in East Africa die.

(2:23:36) 152 hospital beds can save 500 lives.

(2:25:03) What does Go Be More mean to Toby?

(2:29:21) “So a hundred dollars donation was what turned into a hospital that's treated over 500,000 children. So don't ever think that anything is, you know, insurmountable. It's standing up, to go be more.”

If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with entrepreneur Ron Sarmiento and 5-time Olympian Abdi Abdirahman.

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Recorded September 7, 2020.

References:

Shoe4Africa - homepage

Train Hard, Win Easy by Toby Tanser - Amazon

More Fire: How to Run the Kenyan Way by Toby Tanser - Amazon

The Essential Guide to Running the New York City Marathon - Amazon

Guest:

Toby Tanser - Tanser.org, @shoe4africa

Hosts:

Bryan Green - @sendaibry, Go Be More Blog

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

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“It was kind of like a lightning bolt moment for me. I was like, Oh my God, this is one of those things that I'm meant to do on this planet. It’s to figure this out.”—Clayton Frech

Join Jon and Bryan as they take a deep-dive into the world of adaptive athletics with Clayton Frech. His non-profit organization—Angel City Sports—provides year-round free adaptive sports opportunities for kids, adults, and veterans living with physical disabilities or visual impairments.

Clayton transparently shares from his heart the lessons he, his family, and son Ezra have learned as they’ve explored the opportunities for all types of athletes striving to Go Be More.

Show Notes

(3:00) Jon, Clayton, and their “matchmaker,” Isaac…

(5:20) Have you ever seen a blind man do the high jump?

(7:20) “... they’ve mastered their body, their athletic performance… but they have to also master their body’s interaction with technology.”

(11:04) How do we simplify the process of getting started in sports?

(12:30) “Growing up, I never felt like I belonged anywhere.” Clayton shares what his childhood looked like.

(16:16) Skateboards, college classes, and corporate ladders…

(19:40) These skill sets have helped in building a non-profit…

(22:51) Ezra was born and a whole new world opened up.

(26:25) A “roadmap” can make all the difference.

(29:45) For the love of sports…

(32:43) “And the main takeaway from that was the kids that seemed better adjusted, more self-confidence, and just farther along in the self-acceptance journey tended to be from small towns…”

(34:34) A leg built out of wood… Ezra’s family meets Paralympians for the first time.

(37:09) Ezra experiences the Endeavor games.

(39:13) Why go into adaptive athletics when he was doing so well in age group sports?

(47:14) Amazing mentors that have been a part of the journey…

(50:41) Was there a special formula?

(53:30) “...my wife gets like the lion share of credit... The work that she did with him in terms of giving him the tools to be successful in life beyond sport, is really pretty incredible.”

(57:31) There’s a celebrity in the house…

(1:00:00) Angel City Sports role in adaptive athletics…

(1:06:14) “...we don't discriminate. So all ages, all physical disabilities, veterans, civilians, you name it.”

(1:08:29) “Kids need to see adults, whether they're vets or civilians functioning at a high level, competing and going after it... And then the adults and the vets, we're always inspired by having a little kid who doesn't think about their disability.”

(1:11:24) You never know who’s going to show up! Celebs supporting the events…

(1:16:12) It starts with just one.

(1:19:05) It’s about creating a sense of belonging…

(1:22:03) What’s the number one problem in the adaptive and Paralympic sports communities?

(1:23:43) Is Angel City Sports going to other locations?

(1:32:12) Paralympic and adaptive sports are where you can refill your “tank.” Sport is so important to this community.

(1:42:22) “And it's scary because if you don't understand it, if it's not a part of your life, if you don't see it, it doesn't exist.”

(1:45:11) “(Angel City Sports) is for people that don't have the resources and the time and the family support and all the blessings that Ezra has.”

(1:46:42) What does the phrase Go Be More mean to you?

(1:48:32) Closing...

If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with Paralympian Wesley Williams and event promoter Tracy Sundlun.

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Recorded September 11, 2020.

References:

Angel City Sports - homepage

Angel City Sports Overview - YouTube

2020 Angel City Games presented by The Hartford - website

Ezra Frech - Wikipedia

Endeavor Games - homepage

Challenge Athletes Foundation - homepage

Guest:

Clayton Frech - @clayton.frech

Hosts:

Bryan Green - @sendaibry, Go Be More Blog

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

Feedback

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“I just have to thank God that I had that opportunity, and then that I was prepared for it and that there were people rooting for me. And then I had a coach that said, ‘Just do what you do in practice.’”—Willie Banks

Willie Banks brings to life his journey toward becoming a legend in the sport of triple jumping. You’ll learn about what sets triple jumping apart from the other events in track and field, how his signature clapping routine got started, and what he thinks the sport needs to grow fans.

If you’ve ever been mesmerized by the storytelling of an Olympic GREAT, then you’re sure to love this episode and be ready to Go Be More.

(2:10) Willie shares a bit about growing up in a military family and how sports and activities were just a way to tire him out.

(6:04) Building a high jump out of mattresses never ends well…

(7:16) A seventh-grader gets inspired by a senior in high school who jumps with his sweats on…

(10:20) Kicked off the team for doing it his way…

(12:10) What does the triple jump have to do with a drinking game?

(14:32) A history teacher who knew “a bit” about the triple jump…

(16:45) Why the Avocado League had to extend the triple jump pit...

(18:22) “My attitude towards growing up black in the United States was tough for me.”

(20:08) Developing a whole philosophy of living had to involve three.

(22:06) Jon shares what it was like with a Dad in the navy.

(24:17) “You have to stick up for your friends and your family and for what is right.” Willie shares when he went up against his teacher.

(28:20) Bryan asks about the transition from high school to UCLA.

(33:09) The craziness of the USC, UCLA dual meet…

(37:12) “Go do what you do in practice,” Willie carries the weight of the meet.

(42:36) “I actually wanted to go to Stanford.”

(43:32) What Clarence Taylor taught me about triple jumping…

(46:04) What happened when Jon started viewing his running performance as art.

(48:01) “But if our sport wants to survive, we have to be entertaining.”

(50:34) A learning moment—Willie gets good news and bad news as an American record holder in Germany…

(53:34) The impact of some drunk Swedes…

(57:59) A triple jumper takes a victory lap…

(1:03:39) How do we take our sport to the level it deserves to be at?

(1:05:25) The need for stars and supporters…

(1:09:20) We need more circus and Colosseum…

(1:11:24) Here’s why track grew in the ’70s and ’80s…

(1:13:56) What happens when individual organizers pay for their own meet and find sponsors and get investors?

(1:16:21) “It's a macro version of your triple jump experience that you were creating for the fans, right?” Bryan shares his experience with the Rock and Roll Marathon.

(1:21:54) Affinity happens before, after, on, and off the track.

(1:26:16) What’s next on Willie’s plate?

(1:28:44) What does Go Be More mean to you?

(1:31:56) Closing and what’s coming up.

If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with 'Mr. Marathon' Tracy Sundlun and former USA triple jumper Von Ware.

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Recorded August 28, 2020.

References:

Willie Banks WR Triple Jump - YouTube

World Athletics Profile - WorldAthletics.org

Guest:

Willie Banks - @williebanks

Hosts:

Bryan Green - @sendaibry, Go Be More Blog

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

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“Soccer doesn’t really wait for you… it was completely shattering and it felt like a punishment. It was really sad.”—Hailey Hogan

Hailey has more insight and understanding of kidney disease than any 20-something should have. Diagnosed at the early age of 15 she was quickly thrust into a world of medical testing, uncertain futures, and adjusted expectations. 

Listen in as she candidly explains the roller-coaster ride of figuring out life with her condition.

You’re sure to walk away with admiration of her daily courage, a mature grasp of complicated procedures, and her determined efforts to Go Be More.

(3:47) Hailey shares about her childhood in Ohio and a family move to Arizona.

(5:44) “...something is really not right.” Hailey’s symptoms that led to the diagnosis.

(10:48) “... still scratching the surface on the kidneys,” Jon asks Hailey about her thoughts on testing.

(12:14) The problem with symptoms…

(14:10) “... the kidneys, like most of your body, is very connected to each other. And it really helps if you can have a holistic approach to your medicine.” Jon and Hailey talk about the need for earlier testing.

(15:45) Hailey shares her heartbreak with soccer.

(17:53) Robotic pyeloplasty and other new normals…

(19:44) Realities sink in…

(21:18) What are the 5 stages of kidney disease?

(22:39) “...it's different because you're in this weird spot where you're like, how much do I need to change my lifestyle? And where does that begin and end?” Hailey shares about the confusing nature of a silent condition and how it impacts her thoughts.

(22:56) For the love of powerlifting…

(24:24) Are the treatment protocols handled well?

(28:16) Why it’s terrifying to leave your pediatric nephrologist and the different approaches to pediatric and adult kidney disease.

(34:04) There’s a need for a consistent scale.

(38:25) “And I think the healthcare system is one of those things where I think that with like a lot of things going on in our country, I think we need a revolution. I think we need to just do something different. And even if it's small, let's create a good example of something that works and then scale that.”

(39:11) 1% of the federal budget goes to paying for dialysis.

(39:42) John Oliver, an investigative journalist tackles the DaVita dialysis controversy with a humorous video.

(45:32) How do you handle the many aspects of life with kidney disease—particularly the mental health challenges?

(47:24) “I actually struggled to breathe.” Hailey shares a scary story that resulted from a complication after surgery.

(53:06) Working through what’s in your control and what’s not.

(55:13) Hailey shares her passion for kidney disease advocacy.

(58:47) What the message of Go Be More means to Hailey Hogan…

If you liked this episode, check out our interviews with Kidney Fighter Marc Coronel and soccer coach/kidney warrior Jeremy Bedig

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Recorded August 28, 2020.

References:

Last Week Tonight: Dialysis - YouTube

Guest:

Hailey Hogan - @thepinkpowerranger1

Hosts:

Bryan Green - @sendaibry, Go Be More Blog

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

Feedback

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We talk with sub-4 miler and senior care reformer Bryan Lindsay about his running career and how he’s building a model for senior care that works.

Bryan’s Running Career
- Some thoughts on camaraderie between competitors and what the “right” approach is to associating with other athletes at competitions
- His friendships he created with the other top runners and how that eventually led them to all compete together at BYU
- The motivation he got from trying to figure out what the top teams in his region were doing and his subscription to Track and Field News
- How he read a book about Olympic athletes who shared his faith and that also contributed to his belief he could achieve his goals
- His focus on achieving his potential and finding his personal limits
- How he was already planning out his path to the Olympics at age 26 when he was a sophomore in high school, and the importance of engaging and and studying your craft
- His experience serving a mission for his church in Portugal, and how that affected his overall career
- How he went six years without a personal best due to his mission and repeated injuries
- His experience breaking the four-minute barrier with Jon at the Rafer Johnson/Jackie Joyner-Kersee Invitational in 2005 (and experiencing Diddy Riese cookies)
- Finishing second at the NCAA Championships for 1500m and the opportunity that created to run professionally with New Balance
- How he’s transitioned to doing triathlons now, and setting his Masters PRs

Restoracy and Transforming Senior Care
- Going back to school and getting a Master’s in Health Administration
- Working in health care and for large institutional nursing homes
- His startup long-term healthcare facility called The Restoracy, which centers around making the nursing home experience feel more like a real home
- How he took one big idea from his running: have big goals and go after them knowing there are risks, so do it with the best plan you can create
- The initial feedback he is receiving and why he believes his company is a better model for long-term care in the future
- And finally, what Go Be More, means to Bryan

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Recorded September 2, 2020.

References:

The Restoracy - website

1999 NCAA Championships 1500m Final - YouTube

2005 Rafer Johnson/Jackie Joyner-Kersee Invitational Mile - YouTube

2005 NCAA Championships 1500m Final - YouTube

Diddy Riese cookies - website

Guest:

Bryan Lindsay - @BYUMiler_Bryan, 

Hosts:

Bryan Green - @sendaibry, Go Be More Blog

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

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We talk with soccer coach and kidney disease survivor Jeremy Bedig about his experience with FSGS.

Jeremy’s Kidney Disease Diagnosis and First Transplant
- His passion for soccer as a kid and the path he was on prior to his diagnosis with FSGS at the age of 14
- The weird swelling and symptoms that caused him to go to the doctor and get diagnosed with fast-acting variant FSGS
- The first time he really felt sick, not because of kidney disease but because of the treatment
- His experience trying to keep up with school and soccer while undergoing chemotherapy and taking multiple drugs to battle his condition
- The mental challenge of dealing with a life-threatening diagnosis, and how you struggle to process what it means as you go through the day-to-day experience, especially as a high school student
- The amazing support he received from his parents and grandparents, and how important that support system is for patients
- His experience with dialysis and having a double nephrectomy (where both kidneys are removed) as a junior in high school
- The unique opportunity he got that most of us will never experience

Jeremy’s Second Transplant
- The legal battles he had to fight with his school to allow him to study based on his health situation, and how difficult some teachers made his experience
- How unprepared he was to be a college student, and why he dropped out
- What led him to try being a soccer coach, and how quickly he progressed in his first couple years
- The staph infection that destroyed his new kidney and sent him back onto dialysis for 3 1/2 years, and the emotional toll that took to be back where he was years earlier
- The experience of finding a donor but having it fall through because of a failed test
- The role coaching played in giving him something outside his condition to focus on
- His eventual transplant from a family relative and the special bond that created between them

What Jeremy is Doing Today
- One of the scary realities of being a kidney disease patient: going into the surgery not knowing if you'll have a kidney at the end
- His new coaching career with Diablo Valley College and Contra Costa FC, and the process of receiving his official US Soccer licensing
- His role as a Peer Team Lead with the Nephrotic Syndrome Foundation, and the podcast they are creating
- His desire to spread the word about mental health, and his continued struggles to deal with the PTSD associated with his kidney experience
- Why even though he received amazing care and had an amazing support network, he still often felt alone, which is an opportunity for improvement in the current health care system
- His founding the for the Amplify Athletic Alliance to support the LGBTQ community to share their experiences
- And of course, what Go Be More means to Jeremy

If you liked this episode, check out Jon’s Kidney Disease Story and our interview with Kidney Fighter Marc Coronel.

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Recorded August 26, 2020.

References:

Amplify Athletic Alliance - coming soon

Nephrotic Syndrome Foundation - website

Contra Costa FC - website

Diablo Valley College Soccer - dvc.edu

Guest:

Jeremy Bedig - @coachjeremyb, @ysarb_mot

Hosts:

Bryan Green - @sendaibry, Go Be More Blog

Jon Rankin - @chasejonrankin, Go Be More

Links:

Go Be More website

Go Be More YouTube Channel

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