This is a bittersweet moment for us. Today is our final and brief episode of this podcast. We will be shifting our energy to focus solely on our new podcast, Heterodox Out Loud, where we bring the most compelling and thought-provoking pieces from our selection of over 350 Heterodox Academy blogs, along with exclusive interviews with our blog authors. We hope to see you on the other feed!

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HxA Top Picks: Five of the most thought provoking episodes from Half Hour of Heterodoxy:

1. Becoming Culturally Intelligent with Maria Dixon Hall

2. Social Research and Political Bias with Musa al-Gharbi

3. On Paradigms in Sociology with Arthur Sakamoto

4. The Evolutionary Origins of a Good Society with Nicholas Christakis

5. What is Moral Grandstanding with Brandon Warmke & Justin Tosi

In this episode, a recording of our virtual event, A Deep Dive into DEI: Research, Interventions, and Alternatives, that took place on June 9th, 2021. The moderator is Ilana Redstone, Associate Professor of sociology at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. The panel includes leading experts on diversity, equity and inclusion. Frank Dobbin, Professor of Social Sciences at Harvard University, Edward Chang, Assistant Professor of Business Administration at Harvard Business School, and Garrett Johnson, co-founder and executive director of the Lincoln Network. Enjoy!

For more HxA blogs, events, tools and resources, please visit us at: https://heterodoxacademy.org/

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Check out our other podcast, Heterodox Out Loud: the best of the HxA blog, here.

This event originally aired live on 04/09/2021 and a video recording is available here.

About the speakers:

Judith R. Shapiro is a cultural anthropologist who began her faculty career at the University of Chicago. She then spent a decade on the faculty of Bryn Mawr College where she served as provost between 1986 and 1994. She served as President of Barnard College between 1994 and 2008 and President of the Teagle Foundation from 2013 to 2018.

Shapiro’s scholarly work has been in the areas of gender differences, social organization, cultural theory, and missionization. She was President of the American Ethnological Society, a fellow at the Center for Advanced Study in the Behavioral Sciences and the American Council of Learned Societies. She is a member of the American Philosophical Society and the American Academy of Arts and Sciences. Shapiro also serves on the Heterodox Academy Advisory Council.

Brian Rosenberg is the current president-in-residence at the Harvard Graduate School of Education. A scholar on Charles Dickens, Rosenberg began his academic career as an adjunct assistant professor of humanities at the Cooper Union in New York City in 1982. He worked at Allegheny College in Meadville, Pennsylvania, from 1983 to 1998 as an English professor and as chair of the English Department and participated in the development of the college’s strategic plan. From 1998 to 2003, Rosenberg was dean of the faculty and an English professor at Lawrence University in Appleton, Wisconsin. Rosenberg became the 16th president of Macalester College in August 2003.

About the moderator:

Keith E. Whittington is the William Nelson Cromwell Professor of Politics at Princeton University. He writes about American constitutional law, politics, history and American political thought. He has been a visiting professor at the University of Texas School of Law, is a member of the American Academy of the Arts and Sciences, and is a fellow with the National Center for Free Speech and Civic Engagement. He did his undergraduate work at the University of Texas at Austin and completed his Ph.D. in political science at Yale University. His most recent books include Speak Freely: Why Universities Must Defend Free Speech and Repugnant Laws: Judicial Review of Acts of Congress from the Founding to the Present. He is completing two books, Constitutional Crises, Real and Imagined and The Idea of Democracy in America, from the American Revolution to the Gilded Age.

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McWhorter is Associate Professor of English and comparative literature at Columbia University. He is the author of over a dozen books on issues including race and language. His most recent book, “The Creole Debate,” was published in 2018 by Cambridge University Press. He has written countless articles and commentaries that have appeared in The Atlantic, Reason, The New Republic, Aeon, and many more. He also hosts Slate’s language podcast Lexicon Valley. McWhorter is the winner of HxA’s 2020 Open Inquiry Award for Leadership.

Video of the conversation can be found here.

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Original event date: December 16, 2020.

Video of the event can be viewed here.

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This event originally aired live on 10/22/2020 and a video recording is available here.

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You can follow Justin Tosi and Brandon Warmke on Twitter @JustinTosi and @BrandonWarmke.  If you have any comments you can contact Chris Martin at podcast@heterodoxacaemy.org or on twitter @Chrismartin76.

Here is the transcript of the episode.

Related Links

The psychology of moral grandstanding, The Big Think on YouTube

Wrath, a talk by Justin Tosi on grandstanding, from the Seven Deadly Sins series, Canadian Centre for Ethics in Public Affairs

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Dr. Loftus is a Distinguished Professor at UC-Irvine in the Department of Psychological Science and the Department of Criminology, Law, and Society. She has published over 20 books and 600 scientific articles, and she has served as an expert witness or consultant in hundreds of cases, including the McMartin Preschool Molestation case, the Hillside Strangler, the Menendez brothers, and the Oklahoma Bombing. Earlier this year, Dr. Loftus was scheduled to speak at New York University, but her talk was canceled following her testimony at the Harvey Weinstein trial.

You can follow Meghan on twitter @eloftus1. If you have any comments you can contact Cory Clark at clark@heterodoxacademy.org or on twitter @ImHardcory.

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We’ll be talking about her book The Fearless Organization: Creating Psychological Safety in the Workplace for Learning, Innovation and Growth, published last year and how college and university professors can leverage this research.

Related Links

·The Fearless Organization: Creating Psychological Safety in the Workplace for Learning, Innovation and Growth by Amy Edmondson

·Teaming: How Organizations Learn, Innovate, and Compete in the Knowledge Economy by Amy Edmondson

·Amy Edmondson’s Faculty Page

·Building a psychologically safe workplace, a TEDx Harvard Graduate School of Education talk

·How to turn a group of strangers into a team, a TEDx New York talk

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In a recent book club meeting, HxA read The Problem with Everything, a critique of contemporary feminism. On this episode, Cory Clark talks to Meghan about the book, and includes some questions from our book club participants..

You can follow Meghan on twitter @meghan_daum. If you have any comments you can contact Cory Clark at clark@heterodoxacaemy.org or on twitter @ImHardcory.

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The Problem With Everything: A Journey Through the New Culture Wars by Meghan Daum: https://www.meghandaum.com/the-problem-with-everything

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We’ll be talking about the supposedly post-truth world that we live in and what college students should know about the nature of journalism.

That statue commemorated a Confederate soldier and was erected at a main university
entrance in 1913. When Domby was a student at Chapel Hill in the early 2010s, he uncovered
the dedication speech of the statue showing its connection to White supremacy. The statue
was pulled down by activists in 2018 and there has been an ongoing legal dispute over what to
do with the statue.

I’ll also be talking about Adam’s new book The False Cause: Fraud, Fabrication, and White Supremacy in Confederate Memory published in February this year, which is partially about the
lies told by the people who sponsored this statue but mainly about lies told about North
Carolina’s history after the Civil War and the function of those lies.

You can follow Adam on twitter @AdamHDomby.

HxA held its first ever book club a few weeks back, and we chose to read Safe Enough Spaces and had a lively discussion about it. Now we have Michael here to discuss the book, and we  include a couple of questions from our book club participants.

You can follow Michael on twitter @mroth78. If you have any comments you can contact Cory Clark at clark@heterodoxacaemy.org or on twitter @ImHardcory.

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You can find 'Safe Enough Spaces' here.

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Christian Gonzales is a research assistant at Heterodox Academy. He’s a senior at Columbia University and he has written for various conservative publications like National Review and City Journal. Ian Storey is a staff writer for Heterodox Academy. He’s a political scientist and a candidate for Masters of Divinity at Union Theological Seminary. Christian classifies himself as a conservative; Ian classifies himself as a liberal.

In this episode we’ll explore whether it’s possible to define conservatism and liberalism.

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Looking through an ideological lens at Columbia University by Christian Gonzalez

https://heterodoxacademy.org/looking-through-an-ideological-lens-at-columbia-university/

How Critics of Intersectionality (Often) Miss the Point by Ian Storey

https://heterodoxacademy.org/how-critics-of-intersectionality-often-miss-the-point/

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On today’s episode, we’ll be talking about ways you can counsel and help students during the Coronavirus pandemic.

We talk about what you can and cannot do, given legal and ethical guidelines around psychotherapy. We’ll also discuss resources that you and your students can use and explain what classroom practices might be most effective during the pandemic.

Even though this episode is primarily for professors, it could be useful regardless of your current role.

A transcript of this episode will be released shortly.

Related Links

• FACE COVID: How to respond effectively to the Corona crisis by Dr Russ Harris* ACT Companion: The Happiness Trap App – Apple version and Google version (free with code TOGETHER)* How to Cope When the World is Canceled: 6 Critical Skills from Dr. Ali Mattu's The Psych Show* Feeling Good: The New Mood Therapy by David D. Burns (discussed in this episode)* How Can Professors help students with mental health concerns (March 2018) by Katie Gordon and Brandon Saxton (2018)* Jedi Counsel—Episode 86: College Mental Health (March 2018) with Katie Gordon and Brandon Saxton* Online Mental Health Resources (from Katie Gordon’s website)

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Nelson Lichtenstein, another historian of ideas, wrote this about Glickman’s new book, “In this sweeping intellectual and cultural history, Lawrence Glickman proves a sure guide to the economically vague yet politically talismanic meaning of the phrase ‘free enterprise.’ He demonstrates that the most enduring features of American business conservatism have long expressed themselves through this maddingly mythic construction.”

Lawrence Glickman has also published historical books about the living wage and consumer activism. He teaches a popular course called “Sports and Politics and American History” at Cornell University.

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Related Links:

• A Living Wage: American Workers and the Making of Consumer Society by Law* Buying Power: A History of Consumer Activism in America by Lawrence B. Glickman* Just a Lot of Woids: A book review of "Free Enterprise" by Eric Rauchway, Reviews in American History

One critic called it “two books in one” because half the book examines the history of television from the Reagan era to today, and the other half illustrates how Donald Trump assiduously used television to create his persona. As Poniewozik puts it, Trump is “a character that wrote itself, a brand mascot that jumped of the cereal box and entered the world, a simulacrum that replaced the thing it represented.”

Audience of One combines both humor and serious analysis to explain how new forms of television programming–reality TV in particular–have changed the world we live in.  

A transcript will be released soon.

Related Links:

• James Poniewozik's Columns at The New York Times* James Poniewozik on Twitter* Carlos Lozada's Review of "Audience of One," Washington Post* The Bulwark podcast: Episode with James Poniewozik, hosted by Charlie Sykes* An Evening with James Poniewozik, Sacramento Press Club and California State Library* An Evening with James Poniewozik, Midtown Scholar Bookstore, Harrisburg, PA. * Baby Yoda is Your God Now by James Poniewozik* Review: 'Watchmen' is an audacious Rorschach test by James Poniewozik

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Related Links:

• The Staff of Heterodox Academy* The Advisory Council of Heterodox Academy* HxCommunities* Donate to HxA* Glenn Loury on Half Hour of Heterodoxy* Alice Dreger on Half Hour of Heterodoxy* Rick Shweder on Half Hour of Heterodoxy

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Related Links:

• Carol Quillen on Twitter* Carol Quillen Biography * Fostering Democratic Values on Campus, a panel discussion with Carol Quillen, Ron Daniels, Wayne Frederick, and John Donvan* Reframing the Free Speech versus Inclusivity Debate by Carol Quillen, The Davidsonian* Time for a Detox: How the Sugar High of Certainty Impairs Speaking about Speech by Carol Quillen, Forbes* Buckle Up, It’s College by Carol Quillen, Forbes* Talk by Carol Quillen at the Community Building Initiative in Charlotte* Is Ethical Public Service Still Possible?, talk by William Kristol followed by panel discussion andd Q&A with Carol Quillen, sociology professor Natalie Delia Deckard, philosophy professor Daniel Layman, Davidson College event* 2020 - It Only Gets Worse From Here: Mike Allen & Vann Professor of Ethics and Society Bill Kristol, Davidson College event

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Her essays on privilege and politics have appeared in The New Republic, The Atlantic, The Washington Post, and other publications. She also co-hosts the heterodox show Feminine Chaos with Kat Rosenfeld, available in streaming video on bloggingheads tv and as a podcast. We’ll be talking about her book and some of her more recent articles on privilege.

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Related Links:

• Phoebe Maltz Bovy on Twitter* Perils of Privilege excerpt in The New Republic* Feminine Chaos, a bloggingheads.tv show on heterodox feminism with Phoebe Maltz Bovy and Kat Rosenfeld. (You can also donate to the show on Patreon.)* The last thing on ‘privilege’ you’ll ever need to read by Carlos Lozada, book review in The Washington Post* Sympathy for the White Devil: Phoebe Maltz Bovy’s ‘The Perils of Privilege’ by Jacqui Shine, LA Review of Books* Liberals need to stop to stop obsessing over privilege or they’ll never accomplish anything by Phoebe Maltz Bovy, Quartz * White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack by Peggy McIntosh

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She has been a faculty fellow at Heterodox Academy since 2017. She currently manages the HXSociology forum, part of the Heterodox Communities (HxCommunities) initiative. It aims to support and promote a sense of community among heterodox scholars within particular fields of study, particular geographic regions, and other specific academic communities.

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Related Links:

• The silent crisis in the classroom by Ilana Redstone, Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE) Conference 2019* New sociology course allows for viewpoint diversity by Sarah O'Beiren, The Daily Illini* The dangers of defining deviancy up by Ilana Redstone, Quillette* Articles by Ilana Redstone on Heterodox Academy's blog

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In addition to co-directing Life After Hate, Tony works with governments and academic researchers to combat recruitment into hate groups. Earlier this year, he testified before the U.S. Congress’s Civil Rights and Civil Liberties subcommittee on confronting white supremacy and the adequacy of the Federal response.

He currently lives in Vancouver, British Columbia. Life After Hate is based in Chicago.

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If you're in the D.C. area, you can catch a book signing by Robert Talisse at Politics and Prose on Connecticut Ave on November 2nd at 3:30 in the afternoon. If you're in the New York area, you can catch him at Shakespeare and Company on November 7 at 6:30 p.m.

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Sheila is the coauthor of Difficult Conversations: How to Discuss What Matters Most (1999), a New York Times Business Bestseller that has continuously been in print. An updated 10th anniversary edition was published in 2010. She’s also the coauthor of Thanks for the Feedback: The Science and Arts of Receiving Feedback Well (Even When It’s Off-Base, Unfair, Poorly Delivered and Frankly, You’re Not in the Mood), a New York Times bestseller. She is a lecturer at Harvard Law School and a founder of Triad Consulting Group.

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We discuss difficult conversations between faculty and students in this episode, the first of two episodes with Sheila Heen.

We recorded this using Skype because of technical problems with the application that we normally use. You may notice lower audio quality.

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• Open Science Framework: Persuasive Climate Change Messages to Christian (data from the studies we discussed)
• Yale Climate Opinion: Visualizations and Data
• Matthew Goldberg on Google Scholar
• A Social Identity Approach to Engaging Christians in the Issue of Climate Change by Matthew H. Goldberg, Abel Gustafson, et al.
• Discussing Global Warming Leads to Greater Acceptance of Climate Science by Matthew H. Goldberg, Sander van der Linden, et al.
• Perceived Social Consensus Can Reduce Ideological Biases on Climate Change by Matthew H. Goldberg, Sander van der Linden, et al.

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Books by Charlie Sykes:

• How the Right Lost Its Mind (2017; updated preface in paperback edition)* Fail U: The False Promise of Higher Education (2016)* Profscam: Professors and the Demise of Higher Education (1988)

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Related Links:

• Project for Civil Discourse on Youtube* Can journalistic “false balance” distort public perception of consensus in expert opinion? by Derek J. Koehler, Journal of Experimental Psychology: Applied* Balance as Bias: Global Warming and the U.S. Prestige Press by M. T. Boykoff and J. M. Boykoff, Global Environmental Change* Journalistic Balance as Global Warming Bias by Jules Boykoff, Fairness and Accuracy in Resporting* Lara Schwartz on the 2019 Heterodox Academy conference panel, "Successes, Strains and Stories to Inspire."

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The talkback and Q&A host is Nick Gillespie, Editor-at-Large of Reason magazine.

A transcript is available on Youtube.

Editor's note: This episode is Steven Pinker's keynote talk at the 2019 Heterodox Academy Conference.

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Related Links:

• Cowboys vs. Rice Farmers: Mapping the Ecology of Cultural Difference, William & Mary News* How to win (and lose) friendships across cultures: Why relational mobility matters by Robert Thomson and Masaku Yuki, In Mind* Relational Mobility Depends on Where You Live, Asian Scientist* Relational Mobility Explains Between- and Within-Culture Differences in Self-Disclosure to Close Friends by Joanna Schug, Masaki Yuki, & William Maddux, Psychological Science* Relational mobility predicts social behaviors in 39 countries and is tied to historical farming and threat by Robert Thomson, Masaku Yuki, Thomas Talhelm, Joanna Schug, and others, PNAS

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Related Links:

• Do as I Say, Not as I Do, or, Conformity in Scientific Networks by James Owen Weatherall and Cailin O'Connor* How Science Spreads: Smallpox, Stomach Ulcers, and ‘The Vegetable Lamb of Tartary’: Episode of The Hidden Brain* Ukraine: The Haze of Propaganda by Tim Snyder, New York Review of Books* Endogenous Epistemic Factionalization: A Network Epistemology Approach by James Owen Weatherall & Cailin O’Connor* The Natural Selection of Conservative Science by Cailin O’Connor * How to Beat Science and Influence People: Policy Makers and Propaganda in Epistemic Networks by James Owen Weatherall, Cailin O’Connor, & Justin P. Bruner

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Guests In Order of Appearance:

• Jon Haidt, social psychologist and business ethics professor * Amna Khalid, historian* Jesse Singal, journalist at New York Magazine* Anya Pechko, entrepreneur and founder of Project Be* Fabio Rojas, sociologist and editor of Contexts* Nicholas Phillips, Heterodox Academy research associate

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• How the news took over reality by Oliver Burkeman* The Antidote: Happiness for People Who Can't Stand Positive Thinking (Burkeman)* Video: The Negative Path to Happiness and Success (Burkeman)* Help! How To Be Slightly Happier and Get a Bit More Done (Burkeman)* Why time management is ruining our lives (Burkeman)* Overdoing Democracy: Why We Must Put Politics in Its Place by Robert Talisse

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His previous books included Connected, about how social networks affect our health and our lives, and Death Foretold, about the sociology of prognosis. We discuss his new book Blueprint: The Evolutionary Origins of a Good Society in which he writes about how evolutionary pressures gave human beings a set of social skills and desires that we can capitalize on to build a better society.

We also talk about Human Universals by Donald Brown. A related newer book is Our Common Denominator: Human Universals Revisited by Christoph Antweiler.

"Let’s Shake Up the Social Sciences,"an essay by Nick, may be of interest to social scientists.

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Maria will be a panelist at the 2019 Heterodox Academy conference in New York City on June 20 and 21. Registration for the conference is open now -- register here!

Related Links

A New Model to Move Beyond Diversity by Maria Dixon Hall, Tulsa World

Hard Questions, Honest Answers by Maria Dixon Hall, Chronicle of Higher Education

Cultural Intelligence, a talk by Maria Dixon Hall at The United Methodist Church Texas Annual Conference

Follow Maria her on Twitter

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You can follow the Annex on Twitter and find previous episodes at www.theannexpodcast.com.

The episode is an interview with Arthur Sakamoto from Texas A&M about explanations of Asian-Americans’ high educational achievement, and attributing this achievement to Asian culture, with special guest host Chris C. Martin.

It was recorded on April 16, 2019.

Discussants

Arthur Sakamoto is a sociologist at Texas A&M. He wrote “Socioeconomic Attainment of Asian Americans” in the Annual Review of Sociology.

Chris C. Martin is a sociologist at Georgia Tech who specializes in culture, mental health, and wellbeing. He hosts the Heterodox Academy‘s podcast Half Hour of Heterodoxy. Twitter: @ChrisMartin76.

Joseph Nathan Cohen co-hosts The Annex and directs the Sociocast Project. He is an Associate Professor of Sociology at the City University of New York, Queens College. He wrote Financial Crisis in American Households: The Basic Expenses That Bankrupt the Middle Class (2017, Praeger) and co-authored Global Capitalism: A Sociological Perspective (2010, Polity). Twitter: @jncohen

Related Links

"The contingent, contextual nature of the relationship between needs for security and certainty and political preferences: Evidence and implications" by Christopher Federico and Ari Malka, Political Psychology(Vol. 39, S1, pp. 3-48).

Chris Federico on Twitter

The more education Republicans have, the less they tend to believe in climate change by Kevin Quealy, New York Times

A Wider Ideological Gap Between More and Less Educated Adults, Pew Research Center

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Additional Links

"Our Culture of Contempt." Arthur Brooks, New York Times, 2 March 2019.
"No Hate Left Behind." Thomas Edsall, New York Times, 13 March 2019.
"A Conservative's Plea: Let's Work Together." Arthur Brooks, TED Talk, February 2016.

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In this episode, clinical psychologist Kathryn Gordon talks about whether prejudiced political expression can cause trauma in listeners. Katie worked as a professor in the psychology department at North Dakota State University (NDSU) for ten years.

We also talk about Katie's podcast Jedi Counsel, which is co-hosted by Brandon Saxton. Jedi Counsel discusses psychological science through fictional characters, current events, and interviews.

Related Links
Blog post by Katie on college mental health

Jedi Counsel episode about college mental health

Studies Mentioned During the Episode:

* Area racism and birth outcomes among Blacks in the United States
* Testing the Association Between Traditional and Novel Indicators of County-Level Structural Racism and Birth Outcomes among Black and White Women
* Perceived racism and mental health among Black American adults: a meta-analytic review.
* Racism as a Determinant of Health: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis
* Racial Discrimination and Asian Mental Health: A Meta-Analysis

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Articles by Jeffrey Sachs

Community and Campus: The Relationship between Viewpoint Diversity and Community Partisanship, Heterodox Academy.

The "Campus Free Speech Crisis" Ended Last Year, Niskanen Center.

The 'campus free speech crisis' is a myth. Here are the facts. Jeffrey Sachs, Washington Post.

There Is No Campus Free Speech Crisis: A Close Look at the Evidence, Niskanen Center.

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He’s the coauthor with Kevin Kruse of Fault Lines: A History of the United States Since 1974, which was published in January 2019. Kevin appeared on an earlier Half Hour of Heterodoxy episode. This book is based on the class that Julian teaches at Princeton (syllabus here).

He is also the author and editor of 17 other books including The Fierce Urgency of Now: Lyndon Johnson, Congress, and the Battle for the Great Society (2015), the winner of the D.B. Hardeman Prize for the Best Book on Congress. In March 2020, Norton will publish his history of the downfall of Speaker of the House Jim Wright and the rise of New Gingrich. He has received fellowships from the Brookings Institution, the Guggenheim Foundation, the Russell Sage Foundation, and New America. He also co-hosts a popular podcast called Politics & Polls.

Links

Julian Zelizer & Kevin M. Kruse, Fault Lines: A History of the United States Since 1974

Syllabus for the Princeton course on U.S. history since 1974

Books on Russia by Stephen Kotkin

Aleksandr Fursenko & Timothy Naftali, Khrushchev's Cold War: The Inside Story of an American Adversary 

Jeffrey Engel, When the World Seemed New: George H. W. Bush and the End of the Cold War

Steven Levitsky and Daniel Ziblatt, How Democracies Die 

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* The Chronicle of Higher Education's profile of Eboo Patel, IFYC's founder and president
* Faith Is the Diversity Issue Ignored by Colleges. Here's Why That  Needs to Change by Eboo Patel, Chronicle of Higher Education
* The first chapter of Eboo’s most recent book, Out of Many Faiths: Religious Diversity and the American Promise, which lays out IFYC's organizational vision, is  online
* The first chapter of his book, Interfaith Leadership: A Primer, on IFYC's organizational methodology,is also online
* Eboo writes a blog for Inside Higher Ed that addresses identity and diversity issues in higher education
* A piece on excellence in interfaith engagement: Leadership Practices for Interfaith Excellence in Higher Education by Eboo Patel, Katie Baxter, and Noah Silverman, Liberal Education
* A piece on tribalism and marginalization in contemporary culture: A Nation Under Two Flags: Liberal Education, Interfaith Literacy, and the New American Holy War by Eboo Patel, Liberal Education
* IFYC's annual Interfaith Leadership Institute was featured on PBS News Hour

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0:00 Rapid fire summary of 2018

8:30 Ideological diversity is connected to ethnic and religious diversity

12:22 Focusing on certain disciplines and public awareness

16:00 Revamping our Guide to Colleges

17:50 Nationally representative data on freedom of expression

21:10 Musa stepping away from communications position

22:35 Three key ideas

Links

More on HxA's history and current initiatives available here.

More on the problem(s) HxA is trying to address here.

Videos of the 2018 HxA Conference available here.

Open Mind Platform

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0:00 Introduction to Erik, Xander, and the Reconsider podcast

5:00 How do you "not do the thinking" for your listener?

17:20 Socratic dialogue as a technique

20:30 The difference between psychological facts and historical facts

32:00 Goals of Heterodox Academy

37:20 How to become more informed about history and propaganda

40:10 Common problems in learning

Links

Andrew Guess, Brendan Nyhan, & Jason Reifler -- Selective Exposure to Misinformation: Evidence from the Consumption of Fake News

Matt Grossman and David Hopkins – Asymmetric Politics: Ideological Republicans and Group Interest Democrats

Kevin Kruse and Julian Zelizer on the RINO label

Jarret Crawford’s research on asymmetrical and symmetrical political bias

Jason Stanley – How Propaganda Works

Open Mind Platform

The Bulwark Podcast

Why is This Happening? with Chris Hayes and All In With Chris Hayes

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I’ve known Chad since 1995 when he and I were freshmen at Davidson College and in the same humanities class. Chad is now an associate professor of German Studies at the University of Virginia. His interests include European intellectual history, and media and social theory. His most recent book Organizing Enlightenment was about the foundation of the modern research university. He’s also the co-author of the upcoming book Permanent Crisis: The Humanities in a Disenchanted Age. We begin today’s interview by talking about Chad’s recent essay How Professors Ceded Their Authority (Ungated Link). He’s on Twitter at cwellmon.

3:30 Early universities as guilds; research universities as mercantile institutes

11:45 The early 20th century

14:45 Have extracurricular activities really served moral purposes?

24:05 Are current university presidents like CEOs?

26:05 Students’ pursuit of social justice through administrative appeals

31:35 We can’t be a massive counseling center, so what can we do?

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0:00 What intrigues students about this period

9:00 Network, Nashville, Wall Street, Wargames

15:20 Revisiting White Flight

20:00 Abortion politics and evangelicals

28:20 Books by Norm Ornstein and Thomas Mann; and E. J. Dionne

35:30 Scorched earth politics, Obama's naive hope of bipartisanship

42:00 Preparing students for misinformation

45:00 Kevin recommends books on racism in America

51:30 Kevin's next book

Links

Fault Lines: A History of the U.S. Since 1974 by Kevin M. Kruse and Julian Zelizer

Syllabus for the Princeton course on U.S. history since 1974

Kevin M. Kruse on Twitter

Other Books by Kevin M. Kruse

Other Books by Julian Zelizer's Books

Books That We Discussed

Neil J. Young - We Gather Together: The Religious Right and the Problem of Interfaith Politics

Thomas E. Mann & Norm Ornstein - It's Even Worse Than It Looks: How the American Constitutional System Collided with the New Political Extremism 

E. J. Dionne - Why the Right Went Wrong: Conservatism—From Goldwater to the Tea Party and Beyond

Julian Zelizer - Arsenal of Democracy: The Politics of National Security: From World War II to the War on Terrorism

George Fredrickson - Racism: A Short History

John Higham - Strangers in the Land: Patterns of American Nativism, 1860-1925

Linda Gordon - The Second Coming of the KKK: The Ku Klux Klan of the 1920s and the American Political Tradition

Donald Critchlow- Phyllis Schlafly and Grassroots Conservatism: A Woman's Crusade

Books by Geoffrey Kabaservice

Links

The Savvy Psychologist Podcast

How to Deal With Sarcastic People (Savvy Psychologist episode)

How to Talk to (And Even Live With) Your Political Opposite (Savvy Psychologist episode)

How to (Try to) Not Take Things Personally by Ellen Hendriksen

Everett Worthington's Forgiveness Workbook

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Craig Frisby is co-editor, with William O’Donohue, of a new book, Cultural Competence in Applied Psychology: An Evaluation of Current Status and Future Directions.  The book takes a critical look at what professionals in the fields of clinical psychology, counseling psychology, school psychology refer to as cultural competence, also referred to as cultural sensitivity or multicultural competence. Josh Phillips is the author of a chapter in the book titled The Culture of Poverty: On Individual Choices and Infantilizing Bureaucracies.

Sean Stevens, our research director, has a chapter in the book titled Cultural Competence: A Form of Stereotype Rationality. The chapter is coauthored with Lee Jussim (Rutgers), Lillian Stevens (NYU), and Stephanie Anglin (Carnegie Mellon).

Craig Frisby is a professor in the college of education at the University of Missouri, and author of Meeting the Psychoeducational Needs of Minority Students. Josh Phillips's background is in rhetoric and communications, and he is author of Homeless: Narratives from the Streets. He’s a professor in the Communication Arts and Sciences department at Penn State Brandywine.

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1:07 Multicultural competence is an impressionistic term

7:30 How should students be introduced to cultural competence?

12:18 Josh’s “controversial” research on poverty and homelessness

18:20 Too much attention to race without class

21:30 No attention to individual traits and human universals

27:40 The template of victims and victimizers

32:00 Evidence of student self-censoring unorthodox opinions

Links

* Cultural Competence in Applied Psychology (publisher site)
* Joshua D. Phillips on Twitter
* Craig Frisby on an Education Reforms panel on Prospects for Black America (C-Span video and transcript)
* Cultural Competence: A Form of Stereotype Rationality by Sean Stevens, Lee Jussim, Lillian A. Stevens, & Stephanie M. Anglin

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Tania is a social psychologist and postdoctoral fellow at the Kinsey Institute. She’s joining us from Bloomington, Indiana.

Timeline

1:26 Kurt Gray’s Moral Theory

7:00 Stereotypes: men as agents, women as patients

8:46 Victims are presumed female

12:01 A study with non-Americans

17:00 Implications for policies like affirmative action

27:30 Do men assume the status quo is normal?

31:22 The double-edged sword for men

Links

* Tania Reynolds’s Google Scholar page
* Kurt Gray, Liane Young, & Adam Waytz, 2012, Mind Perception is the Essence of Morality
* Michaella Fitzpatrick, & Natalie Delia Deckard, 2017, The Common Sense Cut and the Gendered Body Project: Constructing Existing Norms around Genital Cutting in U.S. Media
* David Benatar, The Second Sexism: Discrimination Against Men and Boys 
* Warren Farrell, The Myth of Male Power

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This episode has three co-hosts: Deb Mashek, executive director of Heterodox Academy -- alongside Richard Davies and Jim Meigs, journalists and co-hosts of the podcast How Do We Fix It?.

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Timeline

0:00 Intro and the humanities course

9:17 A hierarchical identity vs. many identities per person

12:40 Evolution, genes, and the sociology of health

15:36 The “diversity quota” and diversity as a commodity

20:10 What to do if a student feels excluded

24:56 A course on happiness

Links

* Lucía on Twitter
* Transcript of a lecture by Lucía to incoming students about the study of the humanities
* Professors Like Me Can't Stay Silent About This Extremist Moment, Washington Post op-ed by Lucía
* Humanities 110 at Reed College

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0:00 Intro

3:05 Why do people associate authoritarianism with conservatives?

6:00 Why is authoritarianism dividing parties now?

13:00 Bob Altemeyer's method of measuring authoritarianism

17:10 The right-wing measure vs. child-rearing measure of authoritarianism

25:18 Why is this relevant to other academics?

Article
Wronski, Julie et al. (2018). "A Tale of Two Democrats: How Authoritarianism Divides the Democratic Party." Journal of Politics 80(4): 1384- 1388.
Books
Altemeyer, Enemies of Freedom

Stenner, The Authoritarian Dynamic

Heatherington & Weiler, Authoritarianism and Polarization in American Politics;

Heatherington & Weiler, Prius or Pickup: How the Answers to Four Simple Questions Explain America's Great Divide
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1:00  Theoretical vs. practical support for free expression

5:10 Support for violence and shouting down speakers

9:00 More people are saying the climate deters speech

12:20 What groups can speak freely?

14:10 Why Knight sponsored this survey

18:50 The superiority of the sampling method

Survey Reports

Knight Foundation: Free Speech on Campus: New Perspectives Emerge From Gallup/Knight Student Survey

Gallup Foundation: College Students Say Campus Climate Deters Speech

Gallup/ Knight Survey Codebook and Data:

Codebook

FAQ

Excel

CSV

R (raw CSV)

SAS

SPSS

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The history behind the Coddling article 1:59

Greg's battle with depression 6:15

Nietzsche or Stoic views of pain 9:00

The untruth of good and evil people 12:20

Is no one truly evil? 18:16

Solutions 20:09

Is Jon hopeful? 24:20

Books and Article Mentioned In This Episode:

The Coddling of the American Mind by Greg Lukianoff and Jon Haidt

The Worry Cure: Seven Steps to Stop Worry from Stopping You by Robert Leahy

Feeling Good: The New Mood Therapy by David Burns

Antifragile: Things That Gain From Disorder by Nassim Taleb

The Lies That Bind: Rethinking Identity by Kwame Anthony Appiah

Political Tribes: Group Instinct and the Fate of Nations by Amy Chua

People of the Lie: The Hope for Healing Human Evil by M. Scott Peck

Does Our Cultural Obsession With Safety Spell the Downfall of Democracy? by Thomas Chatterton Williams

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1. The Mythic Past
2. Propaganda
3. Anti-Intellectualism
4. Unreality
5. Hierarchy
6. Victimhood
7. Law and Order
8. Sexual Anxiety
9. Sodom and Gomorrah
10. Arbeit Macht Frei

What sets Jason's book apart from books by Albright, Snyder, etc? 1:05

Differentiating Fascism from totalitarianism 3:02

Why are some democracies strong? 6:22

A critique of John Stuart Mill 12:00

Linguistics is like behavioral economics 16:12

Race and politics 17:54

What can professors do? 26:05

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Rob's MOOC is Dangerous Questions: Why Academic Freedom Matters.

You can other interviews with Rob at the Carnegie Council for Ethics in International Affairs.

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"We’ve been developing curricula, workshops. We have a MOOC on academic freedom. It’s called "Dangerous Questions: Why Academic Freedom Matters"... hosted on the Future Learn platform. So we ran it as a test in June. We had over 1000 participants from over – I think it was 90 countries. The comments were really amazing because there’s a real tendency – and I think this is one of the big problems in getting people to understand academic freedom and why it matters is the real tendency to see this through a hyper local lens. That this is just about our domestic politics.

Where our work is, no. If you go to the layer underneath that, this is about what are the rules for sharing and testing ideas in society. How do we have a space where we can agree that you don’t win by having the most force? That you don’t win by being able to shout down or intimidate or imprison the people who have different ideas.

So the MOOC was really interesting to see people from different religious backgrounds, national backgrounds, educational institutions, countries, wrestle with case examples and to see how they related that to incidents from their own countries."

Subjects:

The values promotion work of Scholars at Risk 6:22

Dangerous Questions, a MOOC on Academic Freedom 7:00

Dealing with trolls 9:55

What is higher education for? 13:25

A human rights lens on universities 18:22

Why Rob is optimistic but not naïve 20:32

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What is multiculturalism? [0:00]

Challenges of implementing polyculturalism [08:15]

Belonging in science and math courses [12:34]

What do people want to get out of confrontations? [14:45]

Power differentials and confrontations [18:26]

Avoiding the words "sexist" and "racist"  [19:57]

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The Canadian state of affairs [0:00]
Rick’s big talk on free speech [3:52]
Drug dealers are more open than professors [9:07]
The bullshit receptivity scale [13:12]
Consequences for Rick’s heterodoxy [17:06]
Continuing research on decision making [23:25]

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Transcript of Episode 30: Rick Mehta on Free Expression in Canadian Universities.

06:30 Understanding the rules of activism
08:13 Doing activist work that’s unsatisfying but important
11:18 Visiting Wellesley University’s Freedom Project
22:15 Is understanding necessary for effective activism?
26:34 Two new articles: a new survey of student activism; Defining scholarly roles

Behind Bob’s Mindful Resistance Newsletter [0:00]
Tribal tweets and popularity [5:28]
Evaluating Heterodox Academy [16:00]
The Google Memo [21:40]
The intellectual dark web/Evolutionary psychology [25:25]
Bob’s near-term plans [31:45]
Mindfulness and De-Biasing Oneself [37:46]

0:00 The questionable claim of a high Hmong dropout rate

08:00 The poverty rate and wealth of Asians and non-Asians

14:01 Are Asians disadvantaged by living in costly neighborhoods?

20:10 Assimilation and the mobile labor market

23:40 Why do sociologists selectively talk about cost of living?

25:31 White privilege and the alleged bamboo ceiling

My guest today is Richard Reeves. He’s a social and political commentator and he has written for the several newspapers and magazines in the US and the UK including the Guardian and The Atlantic. He has also written a biography of John Stuart Mill, John Stuart Mill: Victorian Firebrand. Between 2010 and 2012, Richard was director of strategy to the UK’s Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg. He has also served as director of Demos, the London-based political think-tank. He is currently a senior fellow in Economic Studies at the Brooking Institution in Washington DC. You can find out more about him at his website www.richardvreeves.com. We discuss All Minus One: John Stuart Mill's Ideas on Free Speech Illustrated, edited by Richard Reeves and Jonathan Haidt, with illustrations by Dave Cicirelli.

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“The way that media and communications and societies have developed have not been in the direction that Mill hoped, which was bringing more and more heterodox opinions together in sort of daily productive dialogue, but actually more of a kind of fragmentation where people are able to choose their own media, choose their own messages and create echo chambers, within which we are not actually engaging with other people’s ideas. We’re not subjecting our own ideas to critical scrutiny and having that useful, productive exchange. What we’re doing instead is we’re retreating into mini tribes where we try to only engage people who already think what we think and just confirm what we think. Actually Dave [Cicirelli] said in one of our earlier conversations, he said everybody is looking for the website www.IToldYouIWasRight.com.”

"The other bit of Mill’s argument has to be held in the same thought process as the argument for free speech which is that it’s a demand on us as citizens not to just sit passively and wait for someone to come along and argue with us, but it’s a duty of citizenship and a liberal democracy to seek disagreements, to seek those who disagree with us, to be testing our own ideas against others."

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Chris Martin: My guest today is Richard Reeves. He’s a social and political commentator and he has written for several newspapers and magazines in both the US and the UK, including The Guardian and The Atlantic. He has also written a biography of John Stuart Mill and between 2010 and 2012, Richard was Director of Strategy to the UK’s Deputy Prime Minister.

He has also served as Director of Demos, the London-based political think tank and he’s currently a senior fellow in economics studies at the Brookings Institution in Washington DC. You can find out more about him at his website www.RichardvReeves.com. So here is Richard Reeves.

Welcome to the show.

Richard Reeves: Hi. Thanks for having me.

Chris Martin: It’s good to have you on. So you and Jonathan Haidt are about to release an edition of chapter two of John Stuart Mill’s On Liberty. It’s an edition called All Minus One and it’s illustrated. Tell me a bit about how this came about.

Richard Reeves: Well, Jon, through his work at Heterodox Academy, his office had been doing a lot to try and kind of encourage this idea ...

David Frum (@davidfrum) is a senior editor at the Atlantic Magazine and a frequent contributor at MSNBC. He is a former speechwriter for George W. Bush and is known for coining the phrase “axis of evil.” He has been a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and a contributor at the National Review. He is the author of nine books including most recently Trumpocracy: The Corruption of the American Republic, which we discuss today.

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David Frum: Conservatism fundamentally is a habit of mind. It’s a mental disposition and it’s connected to the constitution of the individual mind. We also use the word “conservatism” to describe a particular ideology and what has happened in the United States in recent years is that definition has frozen, and what we now call “movement conservatism” is an anthology of policy solutions to the problems of the 1970s and 1980s. As it has become more obsolete, conservatives have lost interest in policy and what we now call conservatism has become a series of oppositional attitudes to what’s going on in the culture. I call them attitudes because they don’t really have content.

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Chris Martin: My guest today is David Frum. He’s a senior editor at the Atlantic Magazine and a frequent contributor at MSNBC. He’s a former speechwriter for George W. Bush. and is known for coining the phrase “axis of evil.” He has been a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and a contributor at the National Review. He And he is the author of nine books including most recently Trumpocracy: The Corruption of the American Republic, which we’ll discuss today. So here is David Frum.

Chris Martin: Hi David. It’s great to have you on the show.

David Frum: Thanks so much, Chris.

Chris Martin: Before we get to your new book, which is why I invited you here, I would like to talk to you about the definition of conservatism in general. It’s something you’ve talked about in recent interviews. How do you currently define conservatism?

David Frum: Look, conservatism fundamentally is a habit of mind. It’s a mental disposition and you’ve done work on this that it’s connected to the constitution of the individual brand. We also use the word “conservatism” to describe a particular ideology and what has happened in the United States in recent years is that definition has frozen and what we now call “movement conservatism”. It’s an anthology of policy solutions to the problems of the 1970s and 1980s.

As it has become more obsolete, conservatives have lost interest in policy and what we now call conservatism has become a series of oppositional attitudes to what’s going on in the culture. I call them attitudes because they don’t really have content. There’s a perfect demonstration of this.

You and I were talking over the weekend in which a Trump-North Korea summit has been first on, then off, then on again. At each of these somersaults, the people who call themselves conservatives have applauded the wisdom of precisely what the president and his administration are doing.

First one way, then the exact opposite, then the first way again. That tells you there’s not a lot of policy content there.

Musa al-Gharbi is a research associate at Heterodox Academy and a PhD student in sociology at Columbia University. He is a writer whose work has been featured in The New York Times, the Washington Post, The Atlantic, and several other venues. The topics of his research include terrorism, extremism, war, antiracism, and, more recently, U.S. political elections.

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So there’s this real problem where in order to move the needle on a lot of the social issues that progressives want to address, they just need to be able to engage with a far larger band of people than we’re training them to engage with. I mean even from the religious standpoint, most Americans are religious and most people, especially outside of the United States – again, if you’re talking about in developing nations, even more religious and in a different way than Western Europeans and Americans often are – and we’re just fundamentally not training social researchers to be able to speak in a religious language or even feel comfortable engaging with religious people or their narratives or frames of reference.

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Chris Martin: My guest today is Musa al-Gharbi. He’s a researcher at Heterodox Academy. He’s a PhD student in Sociology at Columbia and he’s a writer whose work has not only been featured on our blog, but also in the New York Times, the Washington Post, The Atlantic and several other venues. The topics of his research range from terrorism to war to anti-racism and more recently, he has been writing about US political elections. You can find out more about him at his website musaalgharbi.com. So here is Musa al-Gharbi. Welcome to the show.

Musa al-Gharbi: Yeah, thank you for having me.

Chris Martin: We’re glad to have you on. On previous episodes, I’ve interviewed professors pretty much uniformly and you’re the first student to be in the interviewee’s chair on this show. I’m curious. Tell me a bit about how you as a graduate student decided to join Heterodox Academy.

Musa al-Gharbi: I had kind of an unusual journey. I mean in academia in general but maybe the Heterodox Academy as well. So I started in community college and a lot of the concerns that we deal with at Heterodox Academy weren’t such a big deal there.

I mean a lot of times at community colleges, you have much more diverse student bodies, even racially and ethnically, but definitely in terms of like socio-economic status and political orientation. But then when I went to University of Arizona, which is where I got my bachelor’s and my master’s degree, I noticed a big shift pretty immediately and it was mainly just that you would see almost all the professors were clearly aligned with the left -- and to the extent that they talked about sort of non-leftist views at all,  a lot of the talk was very uncharitable.

But usually they just excluded frameworks that were not affiliated with the left to begin with. I found that disturbing and irksome often because I myself come from a conservative community and family.  I’m very familiar with conservative thought and I know that conservatives have a lot to add to many of these conversations and I felt like more diverse input would have enriched and enlivened a lot of these conversations.

But still, I mean when I would hear things on the news about like safe spaces and trigger warnings and microaggressions and the like, I always thought that that was – like I didn’t think that any of that stuff was real or particularly salient to anyone’s universi...

Deb Mashek (@DebMashekHXA) is the new executive director of Heterodox Academy. She is currently professor of psychology at Harvey Mudd College, but will be leaving that position to serve full time as executive director. We talk about her career and her three priorities for 2018.
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"I regularly have students and colleagues swinging by for closed-door conversations where they say things like, 'There is this question I wanted to ask in class, or there’s an idea I wanted to raise in a meeting, but I didn’t feel comfortable with doing so because other people might tell me that I’m being ridiculous, or that it's an offensive question.' And that has a very chilling effect on inquiry and on the pursuit of knowledge."

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Chris Martin: My guest today is Deb Mashek. She’s the new Executive Director of Heterodox Academy and this is her first appearance on our podcast. Deb also goes by Debra. I mentioned that if you want to search for her scholarly publications. She’s currently a tenured Professor of Psychology at Harvey Mudd College and despite being very happy with her job there, she has decided to leave and join us here at Heterodox Academy. You can follow her on Twitter, @DebMashekHxA. So here is Deb Mashek.

Welcome to the show and welcome to Heterodox Academy.

Debra Mashek: Thank you. It’s a pleasure to be here.

Chris Martin: Well, thanks for joining us for this episode and congratulations on your appointment. So you’re currently a Professor of Psychology at Harvey Mudd. But you started out studying psychology, biology and women studies. So tell me a bit about how you got from there to where you are right now.

Debra Mashek: Yeah. So I was an undergrad at Nebraska Wesleyan University where as you mentioned, I was studying bio-psychology and women studies and then from there, I moved on to Stony Brook University where I received my MA and my PhD in Social Psychology with an emphasis in quantitative methods and my expertise developed there in close relationships and I studied the self-expansion model. The idea there is that through relationships, we take on the resources, the identities and the perspectives of other people and then ultimately increase our own agency in the world through interpersonal connection.

Since then I’ve applied that theoretical frame to the study of romantic relationships and incarcerated people, college students and also inter-institutional collaborations. So after Stony Brook, I went on for a three-year research fellowship at George Mason and then as you mentioned in 2005, made the move to Harvey Mudd College, which is a small liberal arts school in Claremont, California. We’re very STEM-focused and we’re one of the Claremont Colleges, which includes Pomona, Scripps, Pitzer, Claremont McKenna, Harvey Mudd, Claremont Graduate University and Keck Graduate Institute.

Chris Martin: So last year you applied to our director position at Heterodox Academy. What made you decide to do that?

Debra Mashek: It’s a great question. So I’m at this job I absolutely love working with students and colleagues who just wow me every single day and I’m getting ready to leave it and so the question is, “Why in the world would I do such a thing?” and the answer has to do with I am worried about what I’m seeing in the broader landscape of higher ed.

You know, given my relationships work,

Frank Lechner is a professor of sociology at Emory University. He did his undergraduate work in sociology at Tilburg University in the Netherlands, and then moved to the U.S. for his PhD. He’s the author of four books and two edited volumes—his most recent book is The American Exception, a book about American exceptionalism that covers several aspects of American life including religion, law, sports, and media. I invited him to the show in part to have a dialogue about a piece I published about asymmetric polarization. We also discussed a first-year seminar on conservatism that Frank taught in 2016. To my knowledge, that’s the first seminar of its kind at Emory.

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I appreciate your comment about my “nonpartisan” teaching because in my day to day life, I try to depoliticize the work that I do. I don’t put my own views forward in a very strong manner. I prefer to create a space in which students can analyze arguments and evidence as honestly and as seriously as possible and to provide them with the tools and if necessary play the Devil’s advocate for whatever side needs my support and my articulation. And I think in my actual teaching I don’t take a strong political posture.

More generally, I occasionally I speak up on political issues, issues on campus so people are aware I have perhaps a slightly deviant point of view, a point of view that deviates from the orthodoxy that reigns on most college campuses. But at the same time, I don’t fight any Quixotic battles against the dominant culture.

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Chris Martin: I’m Chris Martin and this is Half Hour of Heterodoxy. This show is produced by Heterodox Academy. You can find out more about us at heterodoxacademy.org. You can also find us on Facebook under Heterodox Academy and on Twitter @hdxacademy.

My guest today is Frank Lechner. Frank is a professor of sociology at Emory University, which is where I recently finished my PhD. I took a theory course with Frank during my second year and I was very impressed with his mastery of classical, sociological theories. And Frank is known more broadly within the sociology community for his work on globalization. He’s the author of four books and two edited volumes. His most recent book is The American Exception. It’s a book about American exceptionalism that covers several aspects of American life including politics, religion, law, sports and the media.

I invited Frank to the show in part to have a dialogue about a piece I published about asymmetric polarization in America. We also discussed the first year seminar on conservatism that Frank taught in 2016. To my knowledge that’s the first seminar of its kind at Emory.

The essay about asymmetric polarization that we discuss is one that I published in late 2016. Frank disagreed with many points in the essay, which is why I invited him to the show. The essay is entitled To My Undergraduate Class on the 2016 Election. I was teaching a class on the sociology of happiness at the time and I wrote this essay to expand on what I said to my class. I published this essay on Medium and Lee Jussim published a copy of it on his blog so you may have read it on one of those places. If you haven’t read it, you can find it online by searching for “To My Undergraduate Class on the 2016 Election.”

Now, the essay doesn’t exactly represent what I said to my class.

Jennifer Earl is professor of sociology and a professor of government and public policy at the university of Arizona. Her research focuses on Internet and social movements, social movement repression, and the sociology of law. She is the 2017 winner of the William F. Ogburn Career Achievement Award, awarded by the communication, information technologies, and media sociology section of the American Sociological Association.

I invited her to the podcast to talk about the use of the internet by political activists. When I say Internet, I don’t just mean social media. Social media gets a lot of attention, especially when people talk about polarization, but the internet is more than just Twitter and Facebook, and I think people sometime misunderstand how the internet is being used by political activists. I also wanted to talk to her about how the internet can be used to deceive people, and how people can become discerning consumers of web content.

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One should treat information on the Web with more criticism than we often treat it. So I think a practice that I try to use is that if I read something that I’m surprised about, many people will then try to Google a confirmation of that. So they’ll read “X happened,” and then they’ll google “Did X Happen?” Or they’ll just google “X” and see what comes up. But I would recommend that you try you consider falsification too, just like in social science so that you also try to search for negative evidence like this didn’t happen. So you might Google “X isn’t true” or “X is a myth.” Now certainly sometimes that’s going to get you to places where… Well, probably X was true. So, one of the things about holocaust denial is that holocaust denial plays on that kind of format of question (”X is a myth”) to bring people into holocaust denial websites. So I’m not saying that you should trust falsification on the web 100 percent of the time either, but I think you should have a healthy skepticism about what you read even if it’s sent to you by someone you trust because you don’t know their vetting procedure.

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Chris Martin: My guess today is Jennifer Earl and she’s a professor of sociology and a professor of government and public policy at the University of Arizona. Her research focuses on internet and social movements, social movement repression and the sociology of law. And she’s the 2017 winner of the William F. Ogburn Career Achievement Award, which is awarded by Communication, Information Technologies and Media Sociology section of the American Sociological Association. I invited her to the podcast to talk about the use of the internet by political activists. And when I say internet, I don’t just mean social media. Social media gets a lot of attention especially when people are talking about polarization, but the internet is much broader than that. And I think sometimes people misunderstand based on the writings of some popular authors how the internet is actually being used.

I also wanted to talk to her about how the internet can be used to deceive people and how people can become more discerning users of web content. So here is Jennifer Earl.

Welcome to the show.

Jennifer Earl: Thanks so much for having me. I really appreciate it.

Chris Martin: I wanted to start by talking about your 2011 book, Digitally Enabled Social Change: Activism in the Internet Age. You co-authored that with Katrina Kimport. Can you tell us a little bit about that book?

Jennifer Earl: Certainly.

Cristine Legare is an associate professor of psychology at the University of Texas-Austin and she’s on the executive board of Heterodox Academy. She is the winner of the APS Spence Award for Transformative Early Career Contributions. In this episode, I talk to her about two teaching issues: how to teach a politically and religiously diverse student body, and how to approach controversial issues. You can learn more about Cristine Legare at www.cristinelegare.com.

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“There are a lot of different things I would recommend. One is to set the stage within a class to accommodate lots of different perspectives. A student should have exposure to a great variety of different perspectives. And often students aren’t aware that there are many, many different ways to view or reason about a particular topic. So I think the first step is educating students that there are, in fact, lots of different ways of approaching a topic—that there are a lot of different opinions about topics and different values concerning topics. I think setting that stage is very important.”
 

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Alice Dreger is an historian of medicine and science, a sex researcher, and an advocate of academic freedom. She is the author of Galileo’s Middle Finger: Heretics, Activists, and One Scholar’s Search for Justice. In this episode, I talk to her about why she blames university brand management, and the corporatization of academia more broadly, for the policing of research, which has now become common in academic life. We talk about how the increasing reliance on external research funding has spurred attention to university brand management, and Alice also presents her recommendations for what to do if you are caught up in an academic controversy.

Alice Dreger's Webpage

Alice Dreger on Twitter

Alice Dreger's keynote address on academic freedom at FIRE's 2017 faculty conference

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"I went to my [Northwestern] university provost and said, 'Admit that this was censorship and say that you won’t do it again.' He would not do that. And It seemed that he was legitimately afraid at that point of the [university] hospital corporation, which I found deeply concerning. And that’s why I finally did just resign. You can’t have any integrity if you have a major book out on academic freedom telling people to stand up for their academic rights and you’re allowing your university dean to tell you what you can and can’t publish."
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"One thing I recommend to people, the minute they start to get into trouble with academic freedom, is that they contact FIRE because it’s one of the few organizations out there that will defend you for free and will do so vigorously. And universities do care about their FIRE rating. They really do care about It. So it matters."
 

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0:00 Intro; NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly at Brown, and the aftermath
9:36 Faculty appreciate the gravity of the problem
14:00 “Prof. Loury, don’t you know the word is out on you?”
20:06 Brown’s allocation of $100 mil for diversity/inclusion
25:20 Are initiatives evidence-based?
33:20 Must people of color be mentored by other people of color?

Related Links

The Glenn Show

Self-Censorship in Public Discourse: A Theory of “Political Correctness” and Related Phenomena, a 1994 article by Glenn Loury

An Ivy League professor on what the campus conversation on race gets wrong

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"There is an awareness of the concerns that Heterodox Academy devotees would think foremost about, which is that we allow differences of opinion to be expressed. It’s vitally important that we do so. There is an appreciation of that point of view here in the administration. I think of my friend, the long time provost of the university.… I’ve gotten to know him very well, and I’ve had extended conversations with him about these matters because we’re friends, and I’ve expressed my concerns. He’s got a difficult problem in balancing the various equities that are concerned. I’m not talking splitting the difference on free speech issues. I’m talking about managing a large organization with a lot of different moving parts and varied interests. He has instituted very self-consciously a lecture series bringing controversial speakers to campus…. It’s not a one-dimensional thing like free speech is dying at Brown."
 

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0:00 What students should know about US politics

4:34 How the parties have realigned

13:00 And how they’re continuing to realign

15:05 We’ve moved from partisanship to tribalism…Newt Ginrich

18:44 Evaluating Democrat leadership in the 60s and 70s

20:55 Norm’s new book, “One Nation After Trump”

24:00 The Dunkirk analogy

28:10 Critiques of Norm from conservatives

About Norm Ornstein

Norm Ornstein’s American Enterprise Institute page:

https://www.aei.org/scholar/norman-j-ornstein/

Articles by Norm Ornstein at The Atlantic

It’s Even Worse Than It Looks: How the American Constitutional System Collided with the New Politics of Extremism, with Thomas Mann

One Nation After Trump: A Guide for the Perplexed, the Disillusioned, the Desperate, and the Not-Yet Deported, with Thomas Mann and E. J. Dionne

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“What I really wanted to emphasize, especially with It’s Even Worse Than It Looks was that we’ve moved from partisanship to tribalism. And there’s a real difference. You can be a strong partisan—view people on the other side of the aisle as worthy adversaries. And that’s partisanship. If you view people on the other side as evil and trying to destroy your way of life, and the enemy, that’s tribalism.”
 

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Timeline:

1:06 The history behind Scott’s micro-aggressions critique

7:01 Two big weaknesses in research studies

15:23 Real-world implications

20:05 Reactions to the article

26:05 The Goldwater Rule, and revoking it in 2017

You can learn more Scott Lilienfeld at his website. 

A gated copy of his paper on micro-aggressions, entitled “Microaggressions: Strong claims, inadequate evidence” is here.

And it is summarized in this blog post by Musa Al-Gharbi. 

His paper on the Goldwater is here.

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“One big criticism concerns the nature of the construct of micro-aggressions itself. Do we understand what it is? And one of the points I raise is that even though there’s something there, it’s so vague and so nebulous, it could, in principle, include almost anything that could offend almost anyone. And I think that’s part of the problem. It lends itself to too much abuse, too much misunderstanding.“
 

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In this episode, Chris Martin interviews Rick (Richard) Shweder, cultural anthropologist at University of Chicago’s Department of Comparative Human Development. He is author and editor of numerous books including Thinking Through Cultures: Expeditions in Cultural Psychology and Why Do Men Barbecue? Recipes for Cultural Psychology. His recent research examines the scopes and limits of pluralism, the tension between diversity and equality, and the multicultural challenge in Western liberal democracies.

You can learn more Rick Shweder at his website.

A new paper by Rick, entitled “The End of the Modern Academy: At The University of Chicago, For Example” will be published in Social Research this fall.

0:00 Introduction

2:15 The undergraduate curriculum and multiculturalism: inclusion vs. sovereignty

6:50 Intersectionality is not consistent with solidarity

9:30 The fracture within cultural anthropology

17:30 America allows a lot of cultural diversity

22:00 Confusionism

24:45 Do international students help viewpoint diversity?

29:00 Opposing perspectives on academic subculture

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"Once you start all of a sudden emphasizing status or seeing yourself as a tribal institution with different groups and different tribes, each of whom is really an interest group promoting their picture of the world and really is not interested in challenges to it; or challenges get perceived as offensive attacks or as harms, then you’ve changed the nature of the [academic] subculture. Too what extent that subculture has already changed is one of the things I know that people at Heterodox Academy are concerned with. I certainly am concerned about it. And whether or not the picture of the modern academy that I just gave is sustainable, how many people are prepared to defend it, these are all issues of the day."
 

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0:00 Three factions in humanities departments
04:40 Advice for grads and undergrads in the humanities
11:20 How to repair the academy
13:30 Active learning and elite high school students
16:30 What should professors be like?
19:45 The secret weapon or creating intellectual diversity
24:00 The big fissure in the intellectual world
28:35 Does left-wing ideology resemble a religion?

See also:

"When your next college free speech controversy erupts, don’t blame liberals" (Washington Post).

Quote on the Three Factions in the Humanities:
"People like Bill Maher strangely enough or Fox News often think of American academic culture as they would think of American political culture—in American academic culture, we have red/blue, conservative/liberal, Republican/Democrat—a binary. Everything is stuffed into that binary. On a typical American college campus, in particular an elite liberal arts college campus, you actually have three factions. A tiny, deplorably small cohort of conservative scholars. Something like 2 percent of professors of English are registered Republicans. To me that’s mind boggling. You have a much larger cohort of liberals—a graying cohort of liberals. But the energy and enthusiasm and the excitement among what I would call the far Left. These might be readers of Michel Foucault. These might be readers of Jacques Derrida….My argument is they’re basically half to 60 to 70% of every major humanities department at every major college in the United States so we have to be very cautious when we blame liberals for free speech policies on campus. As far as I can tell, this doesn’t emanate from liberals. Liberals share on college campuses a lot in common with conservatives in terms of their thinking on free speech issues."
On whether left-wing ideology is like a religion:
"Everything is different now. I’m not worried about the Left today. I’m really worried about the Right. I’m terrified about what is going on in the country post-Charlottesville…. The academic left, for all the things I dislike about them, has not shown itself to be violent or unlawful in any shape or form. Is it a religious worldview? I think the Marxists were that way in the 30s, 40s, and 50s. The Foucauldians are so hard to figure out. I just don’t understand what makes them tick."
 

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0:00 Lee’s work on the myth of stereotype inaccuracy

7:11 Blatant biases in conventional social research

10:26 What’s inside Lee’s upcoming books about politics & social psychology?

14:57 Is stereotype accuracy finally getting the coverage it needs?

23:20 People mostly discard stereotypes when they have individuating information

26:57 Stereotypes of liberals and conservatives—accuracy, inaccuracy, and real-world problems

33:00 It’s the prejudice, not the stereotyping

You can learn more Lee Jussim at his website.

Here’s a recent talk by Lee: Science Going Bad and How to Improve It.

Books mentioned during the interview:

Social Perception and Social Reality: Why Accuracy Dominates Bias and Self-Fulfilling Prophecy by Lee Jussim:

The Politics of Social Psychology, edited by Jarret T. Crawford and Lee Jussim

Handbook of Prejudice, Stereotyping, and Discrimination, 2nd edition, edited by Todd D. Nelson:

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"I would like to think of my field of social psychology as a scientific field. I believe in science. I am enthusiastic about it. And so I am acutely pained when the field that I so strongly identify with, and want to advance, has basic failures in conduct as a normal science. And I discovered these failures when I examined the claims about stereotype inaccuracy."
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"The idea of confirmation bias is people they selectively seek out information that confirms their pre-existing beliefs, and they’re more critical of information that disconfirms their beliefs. And as far as I can tell those patterns really do pervade the social sciences. And one way that manifests is—compare stereotype accuracy or inaccuracy to almost any area! If people are going to make any claim that say intrinsic motivation increases academic achievement, they’re going to have data to support the claim. They’re either going to have their own data or cite some famous review article or meta-analysis. But if they want to claim that stereotypes are inaccurate, they don’t need any data—that’s fine! You can just do that!!!"
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"If people on the extreme left are over-represented—and there is good evidence for that in academia, especially in the social sciences and humanities—and if such people are most likely to unjustifiable exaggerate the views of their ideological opponents, you’re going to have academia filled with people who despise conservatives because they truly see them as fascists and Nazis. And so why is that a problem? It’s a problem intellectually for all sorts of reasons. It feeds back into the confirmation bias problem. To the extent that the social sciences address political issues and simply stigmatize people who disagree with their views then it’s going to be very difficult to have an honest conversation about zillions of politicized issues."
 

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His latest book is Asymmetric Politics: Ideological Republicans and Group Interest Democrats, co-authored with David A. Hopkins.