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    <description>The Let Them Lead podcast is about the risks and rewards of leading in today&apos;s world. Hosted by John Bacon, author of Let Them Lead: Unexpected lessons in leadership from America&apos;s worst high school hockey team. 

Each week we&apos;ll talk to amazing leaders from around the country from just about every field you can think of and pick up their hard-won wisdom. In the words of John’s fifth-grade teacher, Mr. Pudduck, “It&apos;ll be fast fun, and we&apos;ll get it done.” 
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    <copyright>2021 Let Them Lead Podcast</copyright>
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    <itunes:summary>The Let Them Lead podcast is about the risks and rewards of leading in today&apos;s world. Hosted by John Bacon, author of Let Them Lead: Unexpected lessons in leadership from America&apos;s worst high school hockey team. 

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<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 6 Feb 2024 11:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2024 12:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>John Wangler, a great Michigan quarterback in the 70s and 80s, became a successful businessman, and father of five children – three of whom played varsity sports at Michigan. Here he tells us what he learned playing for legendary coach Bo Schembechler, coming back from what they thought was a career-ending injury, and raising his kids to be resilient, handle failure, and be grateful.  </itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week I pay homage to one of my best mentors, role models, and friends: K. Ross Childs, who passed away a year ago at 84. Ross played goalie at the University of Michigan, almost won the award for lowest goals-against as a junior – then moved to forward as a senior because that’s what the team needed. He became Grand Traverse County’s administrator, and was awarded Michigan Civil Servant of the Year, with a rare ability to work with both sides of the aisle.</p><p>Along the way, he ran the Ann Arbor Amateur Hockey Association for more than a decade -- where he also served as my first coach, leaving a lasting impression. When he stepped down, he received three or four standing ovations. He then started the Traverse City high school hockey program.</p><p>He and wife Helen also raised three children: Mary, born paraplegic; Susan, who was hit by a car as a toddler, and not expected to survive, but did and now has a teenager of her own; and Scott, my best friend, killed in a car accident at 15.</p><p>As my old U-M professor Ralph Williams said: “Happiness is not a state into which one falls; it is a choice of the will, and always against odds.”</p><p>Ross’s greatest triumph, in my view, was the willpower to find happiness in life despite the incredible tragedies he had to endure. And I believe he knew he had to, if he was going to be of service to others. And you simply cannot find another man who served others so well.</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com" target="_blank">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com" target="_blank">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week I pay homage to one of my best mentors, role models, and friends: K. Ross Childs, who passed away a year ago at 84. Ross played goalie at the University of Michigan, almost won the award for lowest goals-against as a junior – then moved to forward as a senior because that’s what the team needed. He became Grand Traverse County’s administrator, and was awarded Michigan Civil Servant of the Year, with a rare ability to work with both sides of the aisle.</p><p>Along the way, he ran the Ann Arbor Amateur Hockey Association for more than a decade -- where he also served as my first coach, leaving a lasting impression. When he stepped down, he received three or four standing ovations. He then started the Traverse City high school hockey program.</p><p>He and wife Helen also raised three children: Mary, born paraplegic; Susan, who was hit by a car as a toddler, and not expected to survive, but did and now has a teenager of her own; and Scott, my best friend, killed in a car accident at 15.</p><p>As my old U-M professor Ralph Williams said: “Happiness is not a state into which one falls; it is a choice of the will, and always against odds.”</p><p>Ross’s greatest triumph, in my view, was the willpower to find happiness in life despite the incredible tragedies he had to endure. And I believe he knew he had to, if he was going to be of service to others. And you simply cannot find another man who served others so well.</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com" target="_blank">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com" target="_blank">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>This week I pay homage to one of my best mentors, role models, and friends: K. Ross Childs, who passed away a year ago at 84. Ross played goalie at the University of Michigan, almost won the award for lowest goals-against as a junior – then moved to forward as a senior because that’s what the team needed. He became Grand Traverse County’s administrator, and was awarded Michigan Civil Servant of the Year, with a rare ability to work with both sides of the aisle.
Along the way, he ran the Ann Arbor Amateur Hockey Association for more than a decade -- where he also served as my first coach, leaving a lasting impression. When he stepped down, he received three or four standing ovations. He then started the Traverse City high school hockey program.
He and wife Helen also raised three children: Mary, born paraplegic; Susan, who was hit by a car as a toddler, and not expected to survive, but did and now has a teenager of her own; and Scott, my best friend, killed in a car accident at 15.
As my old U-M professor Ralph Williams said: “Happiness is not a state into which one falls; it is a choice of the will, and always against odds.”
Ross’s greatest triumph, in my view, was the willpower to find happiness in life despite the incredible tragedies he had to endure. And I believe he knew he had to, if he was going to be of service to others. And you simply cannot find another man who served others so well.
For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week I pay homage to one of my best mentors, role models, and friends: K. Ross Childs, who passed away a year ago at 84. Ross played goalie at the University of Michigan, almost won the award for lowest goals-against as a junior – then moved to forward as a senior because that’s what the team needed. He became Grand Traverse County’s administrator, and was awarded Michigan Civil Servant of the Year, with a rare ability to work with both sides of the aisle.
Along the way, he ran the Ann Arbor Amateur Hockey Association for more than a decade -- where he also served as my first coach, leaving a lasting impression. When he stepped down, he received three or four standing ovations. He then started the Traverse City high school hockey program.
He and wife Helen also raised three children: Mary, born paraplegic; Susan, who was hit by a car as a toddler, and not expected to survive, but did and now has a teenager of her own; and Scott, my best friend, killed in a car accident at 15.
As my old U-M professor Ralph Williams said: “Happiness is not a state into which one falls; it is a choice of the will, and always against odds.”
Ross’s greatest triumph, in my view, was the willpower to find happiness in life despite the incredible tragedies he had to endure. And I believe he knew he had to, if he was going to be of service to others. And you simply cannot find another man who served others so well.
For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Join host John U Bacon on the Let Them Lead Podcast as he delves into the extraordinary journey of Pat Richter, a sports legend who excelled in football, basketball, and baseball, securing both athletic and academic All-American honors. Pat's remarkable path led him to an eight-season NFL career with the Washington Redskins, but his story didn't end there. Rising to the role of Vice-President at Oscar Mayer, he later returned to his alma mater, transforming the landscape of Badger athletics by recruiting icons like Barry Alvarez and Bo Ryan, ushering in a golden era celebrated with a statue outside Camp Randall Stadium.</p><p>The legacy continues as Pat's son, Barry, carved his own unique path, earning national recognition, the esteemed captain's "C," and All-America honors in the one sport his father didn't partake in - ice hockey. Barry's journey extended to representing the U.S. Olympic team and competing in the NHL, before venturing into a successful business career. Today, Barry serves as the President of Hausman Group in Madison.</p><p>In this episode, they share compelling stories about the influential leaders, coaches, and mentors who shaped their values, including a glimpse into their relationship with the legendary Vince Lombardi. Through their experiences, we uncover the timeless elements of leadership that have remained constants over the past sixty years. Tune in for an inspiring discussion on sports, success, and enduring leadership principles.<br /> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2023 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, Pat Richter, Barry Richter)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Join host John U Bacon on the Let Them Lead Podcast as he delves into the extraordinary journey of Pat Richter, a sports legend who excelled in football, basketball, and baseball, securing both athletic and academic All-American honors. Pat's remarkable path led him to an eight-season NFL career with the Washington Redskins, but his story didn't end there. Rising to the role of Vice-President at Oscar Mayer, he later returned to his alma mater, transforming the landscape of Badger athletics by recruiting icons like Barry Alvarez and Bo Ryan, ushering in a golden era celebrated with a statue outside Camp Randall Stadium.</p><p>The legacy continues as Pat's son, Barry, carved his own unique path, earning national recognition, the esteemed captain's "C," and All-America honors in the one sport his father didn't partake in - ice hockey. Barry's journey extended to representing the U.S. Olympic team and competing in the NHL, before venturing into a successful business career. Today, Barry serves as the President of Hausman Group in Madison.</p><p>In this episode, they share compelling stories about the influential leaders, coaches, and mentors who shaped their values, including a glimpse into their relationship with the legendary Vince Lombardi. Through their experiences, we uncover the timeless elements of leadership that have remained constants over the past sixty years. Tune in for an inspiring discussion on sports, success, and enduring leadership principles.<br /> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:author>John U Bacon, Pat Richter, Barry Richter</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Join host John U Bacon on the Let Them Lead Podcast as he delves into the extraordinary journey of Pat Richter, a sports legend who excelled in football, basketball, and baseball, securing both athletic and academic All-American honors. Pat&apos;s remarkable path led him to an eight-season NFL career with the Washington Redskins, but his story didn&apos;t end there. Rising to the role of Vice-President at Oscar Mayer, he later returned to his alma mater, transforming the landscape of Badger athletics by recruiting icons like Barry Alvarez and Bo Ryan, ushering in a golden era celebrated with a statue outside Camp Randall Stadium.
The legacy continues as Pat&apos;s son, Barry, carved his own unique path, earning national recognition, the esteemed captain&apos;s &quot;C,&quot; and All-America honors in the one sport his father didn&apos;t partake in - ice hockey. Barry&apos;s journey extended to representing the U.S. Olympic team and competing in the NHL, before venturing into a successful business career. Today, Barry serves as the President of Hausman Group in Madison.
In this episode, they share compelling stories about the influential leaders, coaches, and mentors who shaped their values, including a glimpse into their relationship with the legendary Vince Lombardi. Through their experiences, we uncover the timeless elements of leadership that have remained constants over the past sixty years. Tune in for an inspiring discussion on sports, success, and enduring leadership principles.

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com

You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Join host John U Bacon on the Let Them Lead Podcast as he delves into the extraordinary journey of Pat Richter, a sports legend who excelled in football, basketball, and baseball, securing both athletic and academic All-American honors. Pat&apos;s remarkable path led him to an eight-season NFL career with the Washington Redskins, but his story didn&apos;t end there. Rising to the role of Vice-President at Oscar Mayer, he later returned to his alma mater, transforming the landscape of Badger athletics by recruiting icons like Barry Alvarez and Bo Ryan, ushering in a golden era celebrated with a statue outside Camp Randall Stadium.
The legacy continues as Pat&apos;s son, Barry, carved his own unique path, earning national recognition, the esteemed captain&apos;s &quot;C,&quot; and All-America honors in the one sport his father didn&apos;t partake in - ice hockey. Barry&apos;s journey extended to representing the U.S. Olympic team and competing in the NHL, before venturing into a successful business career. Today, Barry serves as the President of Hausman Group in Madison.
In this episode, they share compelling stories about the influential leaders, coaches, and mentors who shaped their values, including a glimpse into their relationship with the legendary Vince Lombardi. Through their experiences, we uncover the timeless elements of leadership that have remained constants over the past sixty years. Tune in for an inspiring discussion on sports, success, and enduring leadership principles.

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com

You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Matt Maasdam, a Navy SEAL for 20 years, the SEAL training program’s head instructor, and for 2.5 years, the carrier of the President’s ‘nuclear football,’ is so good in this interview that we broke it up into two episodes: Part I: Training the SEALs, and Part II: Carrying the Nuclear Football.</p><p>In Part II, Navy SEAL leader Maasdam returns for a riveting bonus round. Here he tells us how he got selected to carry the infamous “Nuclear Football” for the president, what the job entails, and what he learned from his 2.5 years carrying the nuclear football within a few feet of the leader of the free world, and the many top advisors the president consults every day. Maadam has stories!</p><p>He also discusses his role working with the legendary Navy SEAL Team 6 before its raid on Osama Bin Laden’s compound to get the terrorist leader, and explains how a Navy pilot saved the operation by essentially crash landing his helicopter nose first, and protecting his passenger’s ability to complete their mission.</p><p>So tune in for more great stories and leadership lessons. </p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 7 Oct 2023 19:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, Matt Maasdam)</author>
      <link>https://let-them-lead.simplecast.com/episodes/matt-maasdam-navy-seal-part-2-q5uHiALN</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt Maasdam, a Navy SEAL for 20 years, the SEAL training program’s head instructor, and for 2.5 years, the carrier of the President’s ‘nuclear football,’ is so good in this interview that we broke it up into two episodes: Part I: Training the SEALs, and Part II: Carrying the Nuclear Football.</p><p>In Part II, Navy SEAL leader Maasdam returns for a riveting bonus round. Here he tells us how he got selected to carry the infamous “Nuclear Football” for the president, what the job entails, and what he learned from his 2.5 years carrying the nuclear football within a few feet of the leader of the free world, and the many top advisors the president consults every day. Maadam has stories!</p><p>He also discusses his role working with the legendary Navy SEAL Team 6 before its raid on Osama Bin Laden’s compound to get the terrorist leader, and explains how a Navy pilot saved the operation by essentially crash landing his helicopter nose first, and protecting his passenger’s ability to complete their mission.</p><p>So tune in for more great stories and leadership lessons. </p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>MATT MAASDAM, NAVY SEAL Part 2</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:summary>Matt Maasdam, a Navy SEAL for 20 years, the SEAL training program’s head instructor, and for 2.5 years, the carrier of the President’s ‘nuclear football,’ is so good in this interview that we broke it up into two episodes: Part I: Training the SEALs, and Part II: Carrying the Nuclear Football.
In Part II, Navy SEAL leader Maasdam returns for a riveting bonus round. Here he tells us how he got selected to carry the infamous “Nuclear Football” for the president, what the job entails, and what he learned from his 2.5 years carrying the nuclear football within a few feet of the leader of the free world, and the many top advisors the president consults every day. Maadam has stories!
He also discusses his role working with the legendary Navy SEAL Team 6 before its raid on Osama Bin Laden’s compound to get the terrorist leader, and explains how a Navy pilot saved the operation by essentially crash landing his helicopter nose first, and protecting his passenger’s ability to complete their mission.

So tune in for more great stories and leadership lessons. 

About our Host:
For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Matt Maasdam, a Navy SEAL for 20 years, the SEAL training program’s head instructor, and for 2.5 years, the carrier of the President’s ‘nuclear football,’ is so good in this interview that we broke it up into two episodes: Part I: Training the SEALs, and Part II: Carrying the Nuclear Football.
In Part II, Navy SEAL leader Maasdam returns for a riveting bonus round. Here he tells us how he got selected to carry the infamous “Nuclear Football” for the president, what the job entails, and what he learned from his 2.5 years carrying the nuclear football within a few feet of the leader of the free world, and the many top advisors the president consults every day. Maadam has stories!
He also discusses his role working with the legendary Navy SEAL Team 6 before its raid on Osama Bin Laden’s compound to get the terrorist leader, and explains how a Navy pilot saved the operation by essentially crash landing his helicopter nose first, and protecting his passenger’s ability to complete their mission.

So tune in for more great stories and leadership lessons. 

About our Host:
For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Matt Maasdam, Navy SEAL Part 1</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Matt Maasdam, a Navy SEAL for 20 years, the SEAL training program’s head instructor, and for 2.5 years, the carrier of the President’s ‘nuclear football,’ is so good in this interview that we broke it up into two episodes: Part I: Training the SEALS, and Part II: Carrying the Nuclear Football.</p><p>In Part I, Maasdam recounts his journey: after winning a Nebraska state championship in swimming, he became a University of Michigan water polo player, then trained 18 months to prepare for the Navy SEAL’s unbelievably demanding test, which he describes in amazing detail. After seeing combat in Afghanistan, including capturing high-ranking Al Qaeda leaders, he returned to lead SEAL training as the head instructor, including the famous ‘Hell Week.’</p><p>Along the way he tells us several unforgettable stories, and explains how the tests were designed to reduce the pool to 30-percent of those who start, and on what basis: not merely physical prowess, but uncommon mental toughness, with an unshakeable commitment to the team, at all costs, and the highest ethical standards. One lie, for example, and you’re done.</p><p>Join us for an incredible conversation, a peek into a world few ever see. </p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2023 14:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, Matt Maasdam)</author>
      <link>https://let-them-lead.simplecast.com/episodes/matt-maasdam-navy-seal-part-1-HBVQhITC</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt Maasdam, a Navy SEAL for 20 years, the SEAL training program’s head instructor, and for 2.5 years, the carrier of the President’s ‘nuclear football,’ is so good in this interview that we broke it up into two episodes: Part I: Training the SEALS, and Part II: Carrying the Nuclear Football.</p><p>In Part I, Maasdam recounts his journey: after winning a Nebraska state championship in swimming, he became a University of Michigan water polo player, then trained 18 months to prepare for the Navy SEAL’s unbelievably demanding test, which he describes in amazing detail. After seeing combat in Afghanistan, including capturing high-ranking Al Qaeda leaders, he returned to lead SEAL training as the head instructor, including the famous ‘Hell Week.’</p><p>Along the way he tells us several unforgettable stories, and explains how the tests were designed to reduce the pool to 30-percent of those who start, and on what basis: not merely physical prowess, but uncommon mental toughness, with an unshakeable commitment to the team, at all costs, and the highest ethical standards. One lie, for example, and you’re done.</p><p>Join us for an incredible conversation, a peek into a world few ever see. </p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Matt Maasdam, Navy SEAL Part 1</itunes:title>
      <itunes:author>John U Bacon, Matt Maasdam</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Matt Maasdam, a Navy SEAL for 20 years, the SEAL training program’s head instructor, and for 2.5 years, the carrier of the President’s ‘nuclear football,’ is so good in this interview that we broke it up into two episodes: Part I: Training the SEALS, and Part II: Carrying the Nuclear Football.
In Part I, Maasdam recounts his journey: after winning a Nebraska state championship in swimming, he became a University of Michigan water polo player, then trained 18 months to prepare for the Navy SEAL’s unbelievably demanding test, which he describes in amazing detail. After seeing combat in Afghanistan, including capturing high-ranking Al Qaeda leaders, he returned to lead SEAL training as the head instructor, including the famous ‘Hell Week.’
Along the way he tells us several unforgettable stories, and explains how the tests were designed to reduce the pool to 30-percent of those who start, and on what basis: not merely physical prowess, but uncommon mental toughness, with an unshakeable commitment to the team, at all costs, and the highest ethical standards. One lie, for example, and you’re done.
Join us for an incredible conversation, a peek into a world few ever see. 

About our Host:
For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Matt Maasdam, a Navy SEAL for 20 years, the SEAL training program’s head instructor, and for 2.5 years, the carrier of the President’s ‘nuclear football,’ is so good in this interview that we broke it up into two episodes: Part I: Training the SEALS, and Part II: Carrying the Nuclear Football.
In Part I, Maasdam recounts his journey: after winning a Nebraska state championship in swimming, he became a University of Michigan water polo player, then trained 18 months to prepare for the Navy SEAL’s unbelievably demanding test, which he describes in amazing detail. After seeing combat in Afghanistan, including capturing high-ranking Al Qaeda leaders, he returned to lead SEAL training as the head instructor, including the famous ‘Hell Week.’
Along the way he tells us several unforgettable stories, and explains how the tests were designed to reduce the pool to 30-percent of those who start, and on what basis: not merely physical prowess, but uncommon mental toughness, with an unshakeable commitment to the team, at all costs, and the highest ethical standards. One lie, for example, and you’re done.
Join us for an incredible conversation, a peek into a world few ever see. 

About our Host:
For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>John Bacon on WTKA-23 Radio 9-15</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this week's Let Them Lead podcast, John Bacon and WTKA's Sam Webb discuss Michigan State University football coach Mel Tucker, who has been accused by sexual assault prevention leader Brenda Tracy of engaging in unwanted phone sex, thoughTucker claims it was consensual. The story raises more questions than answers. Can MSU fire Tucker, even if his claim is true? Who knew what at MSU, and when? Who leaked Tracy's name to the media, and why? And most important, from a leadership point of view: could MSU have avoided this mess, and how should MSU handle it going forward? Join for a timely conversation. </p><p>Our thanks to WTKA for having John on the show: <a href="https://www.wtka.com/" target="_blank">https://www.wtka.com/</a></p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2023 16:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, Sam Webb, Ira Weigntraub)</author>
      <link>https://let-them-lead.simplecast.com/episodes/john-bacon-on-wtka-23-radio-9-15-Sgi7dhT1</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this week's Let Them Lead podcast, John Bacon and WTKA's Sam Webb discuss Michigan State University football coach Mel Tucker, who has been accused by sexual assault prevention leader Brenda Tracy of engaging in unwanted phone sex, thoughTucker claims it was consensual. The story raises more questions than answers. Can MSU fire Tucker, even if his claim is true? Who knew what at MSU, and when? Who leaked Tracy's name to the media, and why? And most important, from a leadership point of view: could MSU have avoided this mess, and how should MSU handle it going forward? Join for a timely conversation. </p><p>Our thanks to WTKA for having John on the show: <a href="https://www.wtka.com/" target="_blank">https://www.wtka.com/</a></p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>John Bacon on WTKA-23 Radio 9-15</itunes:title>
      <itunes:author>John U Bacon, Sam Webb, Ira Weigntraub</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In this week&apos;s Let Them Lead podcast, John Bacon and WTKA&apos;s Sam Webb discuss Michigan State University football coach Mel Tucker, who has been accused by sexual assault prevention leader Brenda Tracy of engaging in unwanted phone sex, thoughTucker claims it was consensual. The story raises more questions than answers. Can MSU fire Tucker, even if his claim is true? Who knew what at MSU, and when? Who leaked Tracy&apos;s name to the media, and why? And most important, from a leadership point of view: could MSU have avoided this mess, and how should MSU handle it going forward? Join for a timely conversation. 
About our Host:
For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this week&apos;s Let Them Lead podcast, John Bacon and WTKA&apos;s Sam Webb discuss Michigan State University football coach Mel Tucker, who has been accused by sexual assault prevention leader Brenda Tracy of engaging in unwanted phone sex, thoughTucker claims it was consensual. The story raises more questions than answers. Can MSU fire Tucker, even if his claim is true? Who knew what at MSU, and when? Who leaked Tracy&apos;s name to the media, and why? And most important, from a leadership point of view: could MSU have avoided this mess, and how should MSU handle it going forward? Join for a timely conversation. 
About our Host:
For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Scott Miller learned worked under leadership legend Stephen Covey, author of the classic “The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People.” But Scott has become a leader in his own right, writing 7 books, including his latest, “The Ultimate Guide to Mentorship,” while producing his popular podcast and columns. His insights are unconventional, funny, irreverent, and bold, including this: Not everyone should be a leader, and it’s a mistake to push them to do so.</p><p>In this fun, fast moving 30 minute conversation, Scott discusses what he learned from Stephen Covey, “a man who not only knew his strengths, but his weaknesses. He also underscored the difference between being efficient and being effective,” and the gist of his books “Management Mess to Leadership Success” and “Everyone Deserves a Great Manager,” and his latest hit, “The Ultimate Guide to Mentorship.”</p><p>“In great companies, it’s not a democracy,” he says. “The leader has to make the final decision. But she has to listen, too. This is 2023. People no longer want to work for the ‘smartest guy in the room.’ They want to be heard, they want to be part of something.</p><p>“Stephen Covey often said, ‘When you’re working with people, fast is slow, and slow is fast.’ Take the time to hear them out. That’s how you get buy-in.”</p><p>Scotts Books: <a href="https://www.scottjeffreymiller.com/books/" target="_blank">https://www.scottjeffreymiller.com/books/</a></p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com" target="_blank">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com" target="_blank">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 8 Sep 2023 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, Scott Miller)</author>
      <link>https://let-them-lead.simplecast.com/episodes/scott-miller-what-makes-great-leaders-and-mentors-pcfm_dD5</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott Miller learned worked under leadership legend Stephen Covey, author of the classic “The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People.” But Scott has become a leader in his own right, writing 7 books, including his latest, “The Ultimate Guide to Mentorship,” while producing his popular podcast and columns. His insights are unconventional, funny, irreverent, and bold, including this: Not everyone should be a leader, and it’s a mistake to push them to do so.</p><p>In this fun, fast moving 30 minute conversation, Scott discusses what he learned from Stephen Covey, “a man who not only knew his strengths, but his weaknesses. He also underscored the difference between being efficient and being effective,” and the gist of his books “Management Mess to Leadership Success” and “Everyone Deserves a Great Manager,” and his latest hit, “The Ultimate Guide to Mentorship.”</p><p>“In great companies, it’s not a democracy,” he says. “The leader has to make the final decision. But she has to listen, too. This is 2023. People no longer want to work for the ‘smartest guy in the room.’ They want to be heard, they want to be part of something.</p><p>“Stephen Covey often said, ‘When you’re working with people, fast is slow, and slow is fast.’ Take the time to hear them out. That’s how you get buy-in.”</p><p>Scotts Books: <a href="https://www.scottjeffreymiller.com/books/" target="_blank">https://www.scottjeffreymiller.com/books/</a></p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com" target="_blank">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com" target="_blank">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Scott Miller | What Makes Great Leaders and Mentors</itunes:title>
      <itunes:author>John U Bacon, Scott Miller</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:duration>00:31:27</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>Scott Miller learned worked under leadership legend Stephen Covey, author of the classic “The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People.” But Scott has become a leader in his own right, writing 7 books, including his latest, “The Ultimate Guide to Mentorship,” while producing his popular podcast and columns. His insights are unconventional, funny, irreverent, and bold, including this: Not everyone should be a leader, and it’s a mistake to push them to do so.
In this fun, fast moving 30 minute conversation, Scott discusses what he learned from Stephen Covey, “a man who not only knew his strengths, but his weaknesses. He also underscored the difference between being efficient and being effective,” and the gist of his books “Management Mess to Leadership Success” and “Everyone Deserves a Great Manager,” and his latest hit, “The Ultimate Guide to Mentorship.”
“In great companies, it’s not a democracy,” he says. “The leader has to make the final decision. But she has to listen, too. This is 2023. People no longer want to work for the ‘smartest guy in the room.’ They want to be heard, they want to be part of something.
“Stephen Covey often said, ‘When you’re working with people, fast is slow, and slow is fast.’ Take the time to hear them out. That’s how you get buy-in.”

Scotts Books: https://www.scottjeffreymiller.com/books/

About our Host:
For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Scott Miller learned worked under leadership legend Stephen Covey, author of the classic “The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People.” But Scott has become a leader in his own right, writing 7 books, including his latest, “The Ultimate Guide to Mentorship,” while producing his popular podcast and columns. His insights are unconventional, funny, irreverent, and bold, including this: Not everyone should be a leader, and it’s a mistake to push them to do so.
In this fun, fast moving 30 minute conversation, Scott discusses what he learned from Stephen Covey, “a man who not only knew his strengths, but his weaknesses. He also underscored the difference between being efficient and being effective,” and the gist of his books “Management Mess to Leadership Success” and “Everyone Deserves a Great Manager,” and his latest hit, “The Ultimate Guide to Mentorship.”
“In great companies, it’s not a democracy,” he says. “The leader has to make the final decision. But she has to listen, too. This is 2023. People no longer want to work for the ‘smartest guy in the room.’ They want to be heard, they want to be part of something.
“Stephen Covey often said, ‘When you’re working with people, fast is slow, and slow is fast.’ Take the time to hear them out. That’s how you get buy-in.”

Scotts Books: https://www.scottjeffreymiller.com/books/

About our Host:
For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Brad Park | Inspirational Lessons from the Summit Series</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Brad Park has been voted one of the 50 best hockey players of all time. The nine-time All-Star finished second of the Norris Trophy, awarded to the NHL’s best defensemen, a record six times, thanks to his one mistake: being born the same year as Bobby Orr, considered the best defenseman of all time. Here he talks about Team Canada coach Harry Sinden, who led the country’s first “Dream Team” of NHL All-Stars against the Soviet Union in the 1972 Summit Series.</p><p>Team Canada was supposed to win every game, but after winning just one game in the first five, plus a tie, Team Canada had to win all three games in Moscow. “We weren’t in the kind of shape they were, they played a style of hockey we’d never seen before, and we didn’t take them seriously – at first!” Park recalls.</p><p>But Team Canada discovered they had certain advantages, too: led by Sinden, they were smart enough to adjust, they knew how to handle a long series – unlike the Soviets -- and they created a team spirit where none had existed before during a two-game layover in Sweden, on the way to Moscow. They also had their country behind them. More Canadians watched the last three games in Moscow than the moon landing three years earlier. As Wayne Gretzky told me, “This was more important!</p><p>Under unprecedented pressure, and with Bobby Orr out with a bad knee for the entire series, Brad Park played some of the best hockey of his life, and Team Canada actually did win all three games, each by a goal, including Paul Henderson’s famous game winner with 34 seconds left in the final game.</p><p>“We learned humility and respect, and how to rely on each other,” Park recalls. “Hey, when it’s you against the world, you gotta come together! I’ll never forget it – and no one else will, either.”</p><p><strong>About our Host:</strong></p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p><p> </p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 1 Sep 2023 10:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (Brad Park, John U Bacon)</author>
      <link>https://let-them-lead.simplecast.com/episodes/brad-park-inspirational-lessons-from-the-summit-series-z9DJJQff</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad Park has been voted one of the 50 best hockey players of all time. The nine-time All-Star finished second of the Norris Trophy, awarded to the NHL’s best defensemen, a record six times, thanks to his one mistake: being born the same year as Bobby Orr, considered the best defenseman of all time. Here he talks about Team Canada coach Harry Sinden, who led the country’s first “Dream Team” of NHL All-Stars against the Soviet Union in the 1972 Summit Series.</p><p>Team Canada was supposed to win every game, but after winning just one game in the first five, plus a tie, Team Canada had to win all three games in Moscow. “We weren’t in the kind of shape they were, they played a style of hockey we’d never seen before, and we didn’t take them seriously – at first!” Park recalls.</p><p>But Team Canada discovered they had certain advantages, too: led by Sinden, they were smart enough to adjust, they knew how to handle a long series – unlike the Soviets -- and they created a team spirit where none had existed before during a two-game layover in Sweden, on the way to Moscow. They also had their country behind them. More Canadians watched the last three games in Moscow than the moon landing three years earlier. As Wayne Gretzky told me, “This was more important!</p><p>Under unprecedented pressure, and with Bobby Orr out with a bad knee for the entire series, Brad Park played some of the best hockey of his life, and Team Canada actually did win all three games, each by a goal, including Paul Henderson’s famous game winner with 34 seconds left in the final game.</p><p>“We learned humility and respect, and how to rely on each other,” Park recalls. “Hey, when it’s you against the world, you gotta come together! I’ll never forget it – and no one else will, either.”</p><p><strong>About our Host:</strong></p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p><p> </p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Brad Park | Inspirational Lessons from the Summit Series</itunes:title>
      <itunes:author>Brad Park, John U Bacon</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:duration>01:11:12</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>Brad Park has been voted one of the 50 best hockey players of all time. The nine-time All-Star finished second of the Norris Trophy, awarded to the NHL’s best defensemen, a record six times, thanks to his one mistake: being born the same year as Bobby Orr, considered the best defenseman of all time. Here he talks about Team Canada coach Harry Sinden, who led the country’s first “Dream Team” of NHL All-Stars against the Soviet Union in the 1972 Summit Series.
Team Canada was supposed to win every game, but after winning just one game in the first five, plus a tie, Team Canada had to win all three games in Moscow. “We weren’t in the kind of shape they were, they played a style of hockey we’d never seen before, and we didn’t take them seriously – at first!” Park recalls.
But Team Canada discovered they had certain advantages, too: led by Sinden, they were smart enough to adjust, they knew how to handle a long series – unlike the Soviets -- and they created a team spirit where none had existed before during a two-game layover in Sweden, on the way to Moscow. They also had their country behind them. More Canadians watched the last three games in Moscow than the moon landing three years earlier. As Wayne Gretzky told me, “This was more important!
Under unprecedented pressure, and with Bobby Orr out with a bad knee for the entire series, Brad Park played some of the best hockey of his life, and Team Canada actually did win all three games, each by a goal, including Paul Henderson’s famous game winner with 34 seconds left in the final game.
“We learned humility and respect, and how to rely on each other,” Park recalls. “Hey, when it’s you against the world, you gotta come together! I’ll never forget it – and no one else will, either.”</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Brad Park has been voted one of the 50 best hockey players of all time. The nine-time All-Star finished second of the Norris Trophy, awarded to the NHL’s best defensemen, a record six times, thanks to his one mistake: being born the same year as Bobby Orr, considered the best defenseman of all time. Here he talks about Team Canada coach Harry Sinden, who led the country’s first “Dream Team” of NHL All-Stars against the Soviet Union in the 1972 Summit Series.
Team Canada was supposed to win every game, but after winning just one game in the first five, plus a tie, Team Canada had to win all three games in Moscow. “We weren’t in the kind of shape they were, they played a style of hockey we’d never seen before, and we didn’t take them seriously – at first!” Park recalls.
But Team Canada discovered they had certain advantages, too: led by Sinden, they were smart enough to adjust, they knew how to handle a long series – unlike the Soviets -- and they created a team spirit where none had existed before during a two-game layover in Sweden, on the way to Moscow. They also had their country behind them. More Canadians watched the last three games in Moscow than the moon landing three years earlier. As Wayne Gretzky told me, “This was more important!
Under unprecedented pressure, and with Bobby Orr out with a bad knee for the entire series, Brad Park played some of the best hockey of his life, and Team Canada actually did win all three games, each by a goal, including Paul Henderson’s famous game winner with 34 seconds left in the final game.
“We learned humility and respect, and how to rely on each other,” Park recalls. “Hey, when it’s you against the world, you gotta come together! I’ll never forget it – and no one else will, either.”</itunes:subtitle>
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      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <itunes:episode>23</itunes:episode>
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      <title>THE HEART OF SPORTS | Bacon&apos;s interview on the NCAA</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week we're sharing an interview I just did on Jeff Cohen's popular "Heart of Sports" radio show from Philadelphia's WWDB, 840AM. While it's focused on college football, the themes are all leadership, in real time: at the NCAA, where a vacuum of leadership is being filled by conference commissioners and others; at the University of Michigan, where the administration and head coach Jim Harbaugh are trying to figure out how to respond to potential NCAA sanctions, and more. As I say, the NCAA is great at misdemeanors and horrible at felonies, and they prove it here. </p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2023 12:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (john u bacon, Jeff Cohen)</author>
      <link>https://let-them-lead.simplecast.com/episodes/the-heart-of-sports-bacons-interview-on-the-ncaa-_0YfCSpm</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week we're sharing an interview I just did on Jeff Cohen's popular "Heart of Sports" radio show from Philadelphia's WWDB, 840AM. While it's focused on college football, the themes are all leadership, in real time: at the NCAA, where a vacuum of leadership is being filled by conference commissioners and others; at the University of Michigan, where the administration and head coach Jim Harbaugh are trying to figure out how to respond to potential NCAA sanctions, and more. As I say, the NCAA is great at misdemeanors and horrible at felonies, and they prove it here. </p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>THE HEART OF SPORTS | Bacon&apos;s interview on the NCAA</itunes:title>
      <itunes:author>john u bacon, Jeff Cohen</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:duration>00:29:41</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>This week we&apos;re sharing an interview I just did on Jeff Cohen&apos;s popular &quot;Heart of Sports&quot; radio show from Philadelphia&apos;s WWDB, 840AM. While it&apos;s focused on college football, the themes are all leadership, in real time: at the NCAA, where a vacuum of leadership is being filled by conference commissioners and others; at the University of Michigan, where the administration and head coach Jim Harbaugh are trying to figure out how to respond to potential NCAA sanctions, and more. As I say, the NCAA is great at misdemeanors and horrible at felonies, and they prove it here. 

About our Host:
For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week we&apos;re sharing an interview I just did on Jeff Cohen&apos;s popular &quot;Heart of Sports&quot; radio show from Philadelphia&apos;s WWDB, 840AM. While it&apos;s focused on college football, the themes are all leadership, in real time: at the NCAA, where a vacuum of leadership is being filled by conference commissioners and others; at the University of Michigan, where the administration and head coach Jim Harbaugh are trying to figure out how to respond to potential NCAA sanctions, and more. As I say, the NCAA is great at misdemeanors and horrible at felonies, and they prove it here. 

About our Host:
For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:keywords>structure, changes, leadership, ncaa</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode>
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      <title>BARBARA MCQUADE  LEGAL EXPERT ON LEADERSHIP</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>If you have a TV you’ve probably seen former Federal Prosecutor Barb McQuade discussing the latest legal issue, almost daily. She’s also a professor at the University of Michigan Law School, and the author of the forthcoming book, “Attack from Within: How Disinformation is Sabotaging America.</p><p>In this episode McQuade talks about her start in journalism, and what it taught her, her shift to the legal world, and her rise up the ranks to Federal Prosecutor. Along the way she has become an expert on criminal law, criminal procedure, national security, data privacy, and civil rights. From 2010 to 2017, McQuade served as the U.S attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan, the first woman to serve in her position.</p><p>Here she talks about what she’s learned from her best bosses, including the virtually lost arts of civility and collaboration, the importance of volunteering for opportunities others decline, and how she and her husband have raised four adult children – plus the impact her high school counselor had on her, and her career. </p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2023 14:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (Barbara Mcquade, John U Bacon)</author>
      <link>https://let-them-lead.simplecast.com/episodes/barbara-mcquade-legal-expert-on-leadership-ZxaKbOhX</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you have a TV you’ve probably seen former Federal Prosecutor Barb McQuade discussing the latest legal issue, almost daily. She’s also a professor at the University of Michigan Law School, and the author of the forthcoming book, “Attack from Within: How Disinformation is Sabotaging America.</p><p>In this episode McQuade talks about her start in journalism, and what it taught her, her shift to the legal world, and her rise up the ranks to Federal Prosecutor. Along the way she has become an expert on criminal law, criminal procedure, national security, data privacy, and civil rights. From 2010 to 2017, McQuade served as the U.S attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan, the first woman to serve in her position.</p><p>Here she talks about what she’s learned from her best bosses, including the virtually lost arts of civility and collaboration, the importance of volunteering for opportunities others decline, and how she and her husband have raised four adult children – plus the impact her high school counselor had on her, and her career. </p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>BARBARA MCQUADE  LEGAL EXPERT ON LEADERSHIP</itunes:title>
      <itunes:author>Barbara Mcquade, John U Bacon</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>If you have a TV you’ve probably seen former Federal Prosecutor Barb McQuade discussing the latest legal issue, almost daily. She’s also a professor at the University of Michigan Law School, and the author of the forthcoming book, “Attack from Within: How Disinformation is Sabotaging America.
In this episode McQuade talks about her start in journalism, and what it taught her, her shift to the legal world, and her rise up the ranks to Federal Prosecutor. Along the way she has become an expert on criminal law, criminal procedure, national security, data privacy, and civil rights. From 2010 to 2017, McQuade served as the U.S attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan, the first woman to serve in her position.
Here she talks about what she’s learned from her best bosses, including the virtually lost arts of civility and collaboration, the importance of volunteering for opportunities others decline, and how she and her husband have raised four adult children – plus the impact her high school counselor had on her, and her career. 

About our Host:
For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com

You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>If you have a TV you’ve probably seen former Federal Prosecutor Barb McQuade discussing the latest legal issue, almost daily. She’s also a professor at the University of Michigan Law School, and the author of the forthcoming book, “Attack from Within: How Disinformation is Sabotaging America.
In this episode McQuade talks about her start in journalism, and what it taught her, her shift to the legal world, and her rise up the ranks to Federal Prosecutor. Along the way she has become an expert on criminal law, criminal procedure, national security, data privacy, and civil rights. From 2010 to 2017, McQuade served as the U.S attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan, the first woman to serve in her position.
Here she talks about what she’s learned from her best bosses, including the virtually lost arts of civility and collaboration, the importance of volunteering for opportunities others decline, and how she and her husband have raised four adult children – plus the impact her high school counselor had on her, and her career. 

About our Host:
For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com

You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
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      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>David Maraniss | Lombardi&apos;s Biographer</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week we talk with two-time Pulitzer Prize-winning author David Maraniss, whose bestsellers include biographies of Bill Clinton, Vince Lombardi, Roberto Clemente, and the city of Detroit itself.</p><p>Our discussion focuses on his Lombardi book, “When Pride Still Mattered,” one of the best biographies I’ve read on any subject, in any field of endeavor. In it, Maraniss dispels several myths about the legendary leader, including his reputation as a win-at-all-cost coach, and a tyrannical authoritarian. In fact, Lombardi believed it is better to lose honestly than win dishonestly, and that faith and family are more important than football. With his players he was undeniably a strict disciplinarian, but remarkably fair – especially appreciated by his African-American players – and surprisingly open to their ideas. And, in his personal life, he looked out for his relatives who were closeted homosexuals, showing that his love for them was greater than society’s approbation.  </p><p>Maraniss took hundreds of personal interviews with the people who knew him best and transformed them, and his insights, into a deeply considered, well-rounded portrait of a complicated man, but one whose fundamental values are as important today as ever.</p><p>Get David's books wherever books are sold.</p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 3 Aug 2023 09:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, David Maraniss)</author>
      <link>https://let-them-lead.simplecast.com/episodes/david-maraniss-lombardis-biographer-24hPU3pO</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week we talk with two-time Pulitzer Prize-winning author David Maraniss, whose bestsellers include biographies of Bill Clinton, Vince Lombardi, Roberto Clemente, and the city of Detroit itself.</p><p>Our discussion focuses on his Lombardi book, “When Pride Still Mattered,” one of the best biographies I’ve read on any subject, in any field of endeavor. In it, Maraniss dispels several myths about the legendary leader, including his reputation as a win-at-all-cost coach, and a tyrannical authoritarian. In fact, Lombardi believed it is better to lose honestly than win dishonestly, and that faith and family are more important than football. With his players he was undeniably a strict disciplinarian, but remarkably fair – especially appreciated by his African-American players – and surprisingly open to their ideas. And, in his personal life, he looked out for his relatives who were closeted homosexuals, showing that his love for them was greater than society’s approbation.  </p><p>Maraniss took hundreds of personal interviews with the people who knew him best and transformed them, and his insights, into a deeply considered, well-rounded portrait of a complicated man, but one whose fundamental values are as important today as ever.</p><p>Get David's books wherever books are sold.</p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>David Maraniss | Lombardi&apos;s Biographer</itunes:title>
      <itunes:author>John U Bacon, David Maraniss</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:duration>00:43:58</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>This week we talk with two-time Pulitzer Prize-winning author David Maraniss, whose bestsellers include biographies of Bill Clinton, Vince Lombardi, Roberto Clemente, and the city of Detroit itself.
Our discussion focuses on his Lombardi book, “When Pride Still Mattered,” one of the best biographies I’ve read on any subject, in any field of endeavor. In it, Maraniss dispels several myths about the legendary leader, including his reputation as a win-at-all-cost coach, and a tyrannical authoritarian. In fact, Lombardi believed it is better to lose honestly than win dishonestly, and that faith and family are more important than football. With his players he was undeniably a strict disciplinarian, but remarkably fair – especially appreciated by his African-American players – and surprisingly open to their ideas. And, in his personal life, he looked out for his relatives who were closeted homosexuals, showing that his love for them was greater than society’s approbation.  
Maraniss took hundreds of personal interviews with the people who knew him best and transformed them, and his insights, into a deeply considered, well-rounded portrait of a complicated man, but one whose fundamental values are as important today as ever.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk with two-time Pulitzer Prize-winning author David Maraniss, whose bestsellers include biographies of Bill Clinton, Vince Lombardi, Roberto Clemente, and the city of Detroit itself.
Our discussion focuses on his Lombardi book, “When Pride Still Mattered,” one of the best biographies I’ve read on any subject, in any field of endeavor. In it, Maraniss dispels several myths about the legendary leader, including his reputation as a win-at-all-cost coach, and a tyrannical authoritarian. In fact, Lombardi believed it is better to lose honestly than win dishonestly, and that faith and family are more important than football. With his players he was undeniably a strict disciplinarian, but remarkably fair – especially appreciated by his African-American players – and surprisingly open to their ideas. And, in his personal life, he looked out for his relatives who were closeted homosexuals, showing that his love for them was greater than society’s approbation.  
Maraniss took hundreds of personal interviews with the people who knew him best and transformed them, and his insights, into a deeply considered, well-rounded portrait of a complicated man, but one whose fundamental values are as important today as ever.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>CLARK BUNTING | Shark Week Creator</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Launched in 1988, “Shark Week” is the world’s longest running cable TV programming event, broadcast in 72 countries. Its creator, Clark Bunting, served as President and General Manager of Discovery Channel and Animal Planet, and joins us on the Let Them Lead podcast to tell us how it started, how leadership works in cable TV, and how it succeeded – and other ideas failed, often spectacularly.</p><p>Here Clark, a proud Michigan State alumnus, brings his Midwest charm, humility, and humor to our conversation about cable TV in particular – including inside info even the most avid viewer wouldn’t know – and leadership in general, including: the importance of finding great mentors who “know more than you do,” showing respect for his colleagues <i>and </i>their audience; and always giving credit where credit is due.</p><p>“As you rise the ranks,” he says, “the skills you need tend to be less technical and more personal.”</p><p>Along the way we get great stories about everyone from Mike Rowe to Steve Irwin to Jane Gooddall.</p><p>“No one trains you to be famous,” Bunting says, “so it’s interested to see how they handle it.”</p><p> </p><p><strong>About our Host:</strong></p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p><p> </p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2023 14:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (Clark Bunting, John U Bacon)</author>
      <link>https://let-them-lead.simplecast.com/episodes/clark-bunting-shark-week-creator-Un_13_ae</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Launched in 1988, “Shark Week” is the world’s longest running cable TV programming event, broadcast in 72 countries. Its creator, Clark Bunting, served as President and General Manager of Discovery Channel and Animal Planet, and joins us on the Let Them Lead podcast to tell us how it started, how leadership works in cable TV, and how it succeeded – and other ideas failed, often spectacularly.</p><p>Here Clark, a proud Michigan State alumnus, brings his Midwest charm, humility, and humor to our conversation about cable TV in particular – including inside info even the most avid viewer wouldn’t know – and leadership in general, including: the importance of finding great mentors who “know more than you do,” showing respect for his colleagues <i>and </i>their audience; and always giving credit where credit is due.</p><p>“As you rise the ranks,” he says, “the skills you need tend to be less technical and more personal.”</p><p>Along the way we get great stories about everyone from Mike Rowe to Steve Irwin to Jane Gooddall.</p><p>“No one trains you to be famous,” Bunting says, “so it’s interested to see how they handle it.”</p><p> </p><p><strong>About our Host:</strong></p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p><p> </p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>CLARK BUNTING | Shark Week Creator</itunes:title>
      <itunes:author>Clark Bunting, John U Bacon</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:duration>00:31:35</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>Launched in 1988, “Shark Week” is the world’s longest running cable TV programming event, broadcast in 72 countries. Its creator, Clark Bunting, served as President and General Manager of Discovery Channel and Animal Planet, and joins us on the Let Them Lead podcast to tell us how it started, how leadership works in cable TV, and how it succeeded – and other ideas failed, often spectacularly.
Here Clark, a proud Michigan State alumnus, brings his Midwest charm, humility, and humor to our conversation about cable TV in particular – including inside info even the most avid viewer wouldn’t know – and leadership in general, including: the importance of finding great mentors who “know more than you do,” showing respect for his colleagues and their audience; and always giving credit where credit is due.
“As you rise the ranks,” he says, “the skills you need tend to be less technical and more personal.”
Along the way we get great stories about everyone from Mike Rowe to Steve Irwin to Jane Gooddall.
“No one trains you to be famous,” Bunting says, “so it’s interested to see how they handle it.”

About our Host:
For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com

You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Launched in 1988, “Shark Week” is the world’s longest running cable TV programming event, broadcast in 72 countries. Its creator, Clark Bunting, served as President and General Manager of Discovery Channel and Animal Planet, and joins us on the Let Them Lead podcast to tell us how it started, how leadership works in cable TV, and how it succeeded – and other ideas failed, often spectacularly.
Here Clark, a proud Michigan State alumnus, brings his Midwest charm, humility, and humor to our conversation about cable TV in particular – including inside info even the most avid viewer wouldn’t know – and leadership in general, including: the importance of finding great mentors who “know more than you do,” showing respect for his colleagues and their audience; and always giving credit where credit is due.
“As you rise the ranks,” he says, “the skills you need tend to be less technical and more personal.”
Along the way we get great stories about everyone from Mike Rowe to Steve Irwin to Jane Gooddall.
“No one trains you to be famous,” Bunting says, “so it’s interested to see how they handle it.”

About our Host:
For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com

You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>TWO LEADERSHIP FAILURES | Northwestern and the NFL</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week we're addressing current events: two leadership failures, one very shocking, and the other not surprising at all -- alas. I taught at Northwestern University for six summers, and have great admiration for the university and its amazing football program under Pat Fitzgerald. I wrote about both at length in my book Fourth and Long, so I was stunned to learn he'd been fired for failing to stop a years-long hazing custom in his program -- and hazing might be euphemistic. Lawsuits are bound to follow. </p><p>The second failure comes from the NFL, an entirely amoral organization, where Oakland coach Jon Gruden had been fired a few years ago when his racist emails were leaked to the press. Now he's suing the NFL because he believes commissioner Roger Gooddell tacitly approved former Washington owner Dan Snyder releasing the emails. Clearly, there are no heroes in this story, they all pretty much deserve each other, and the value system is almost comical. </p><p>The other change of pace this week is delivering all this through my weekly appearance on WTKA.com, hosted by the great Sam Webb and Ira Weintraub, which results in a fast, focused, and often funny exchange among us. Please leave us a review and let us know what you think. </p><p><a href="http://www.wtka.com" target="_blank">http://www.WTKA.com</a></p><p><strong>About our Host:</strong></p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p><p> </p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2023 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (Sam Webb, Ira Weintraub, John U Bacon)</author>
      <link>https://let-them-lead.simplecast.com/episodes/two-leadership-failures-northwestern-and-the-nfl-qqDB1Xer</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week we're addressing current events: two leadership failures, one very shocking, and the other not surprising at all -- alas. I taught at Northwestern University for six summers, and have great admiration for the university and its amazing football program under Pat Fitzgerald. I wrote about both at length in my book Fourth and Long, so I was stunned to learn he'd been fired for failing to stop a years-long hazing custom in his program -- and hazing might be euphemistic. Lawsuits are bound to follow. </p><p>The second failure comes from the NFL, an entirely amoral organization, where Oakland coach Jon Gruden had been fired a few years ago when his racist emails were leaked to the press. Now he's suing the NFL because he believes commissioner Roger Gooddell tacitly approved former Washington owner Dan Snyder releasing the emails. Clearly, there are no heroes in this story, they all pretty much deserve each other, and the value system is almost comical. </p><p>The other change of pace this week is delivering all this through my weekly appearance on WTKA.com, hosted by the great Sam Webb and Ira Weintraub, which results in a fast, focused, and often funny exchange among us. Please leave us a review and let us know what you think. </p><p><a href="http://www.wtka.com" target="_blank">http://www.WTKA.com</a></p><p><strong>About our Host:</strong></p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p><p> </p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:author>Sam Webb, Ira Weintraub, John U Bacon</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>This week we&apos;re addressing current events: two leadership failures, one very shocking, and the other not surprising at all -- alas. I taught at Northwestern University for six summers, and have great admiration for the university and its amazing football program under Pat Fitzgerald. I wrote about both at length in my book Fourth and Long, so I was stunned to learn he&apos;d been fired for failing to stop a years-long hazing custom in his program -- and hazing might be euphemistic. Lawsuits are bound to follow. 

The second failure comes from the NFL, an entirely amoral organization, where Oakland coach Jon Gruden had been fired a few years ago when his racist emails were leaked to the press. Now he&apos;s suing the NFL because he believes commissioner Roger Gooddell tacitly approved former Washington owner Dan Snyder releasing the emails. Clearly, there are no heroes in this story, they all pretty much deserve each other, and the value system is almost comical. 

The other change of pace this week is delivering all this through my weekly appearance on WTKA.com, hosted by the great Sam Webb and Ira Weintraub, which results in a fast, focused, and often funny exchange among us. Please leave us a review and let us know what you think. 

http://www.WTKA.com

About our Host:
For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com

You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week we&apos;re addressing current events: two leadership failures, one very shocking, and the other not surprising at all -- alas. I taught at Northwestern University for six summers, and have great admiration for the university and its amazing football program under Pat Fitzgerald. I wrote about both at length in my book Fourth and Long, so I was stunned to learn he&apos;d been fired for failing to stop a years-long hazing custom in his program -- and hazing might be euphemistic. Lawsuits are bound to follow. 

The second failure comes from the NFL, an entirely amoral organization, where Oakland coach Jon Gruden had been fired a few years ago when his racist emails were leaked to the press. Now he&apos;s suing the NFL because he believes commissioner Roger Gooddell tacitly approved former Washington owner Dan Snyder releasing the emails. Clearly, there are no heroes in this story, they all pretty much deserve each other, and the value system is almost comical. 

The other change of pace this week is delivering all this through my weekly appearance on WTKA.com, hosted by the great Sam Webb and Ira Weintraub, which results in a fast, focused, and often funny exchange among us. Please leave us a review and let us know what you think. 

http://www.WTKA.com

About our Host:
For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com

You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>THE MARK DIVINE SHOW | Former Navy Seal’s Podcast</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>This is The Mark Divine Show, where I explore what it means to be fearless through the lens of the most inspirational, compassionate, and resilient leaders in the world, including folks from all walks of life: Stoic philosophers, motivational scientists, peace crusaders, and amazing journalists and coaches like my guest today, John U. Bacon. John’s a renowned sports journalist, radio personality, and author of 13 books, including 7 national bestsellers. But most interesting to me, he led the nation’s worst high school hockey team to become one of the best in three years, which we’re going to talk about today, from his book, Let Them Lead:<i> Unexpected Lessons in Leadership From America’s Worst High School Hockey Team. </i>He shares insights on leadership and the power of making things hard. </p><p><strong>John U. Bacon (</strong><a href="https://www.instagram.com/johnubacon/?hl=en" target="_blank"><strong>@John U Bacon</strong></a><strong>)’s</strong> career as a leader and teacher spans three decades. He has won awards for being an inspiring writer, a public speaker, and a college instructor. Bacon has taught at Northwestern’s Medill School of Journalism, and teaches at the University of Michigan. Although he is a mediocre hockey player, his excitement and knowledge of sports has made national history.</p><p>“ You are very impatient with behaviors and very patient with results. If your attitude is good, and you’re doing all things I’m telling you to do and our processes are correct. If you follow those, you will get there and worry less about the results and more about the process. <i>” </i></p><p>– <strong>John U. Bacon</strong></p><p><strong>Key Takeaways:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>High Bar:</strong>Keeping a high bar allows people to rise to the challenge. People prove over and over again that when things are hard and challenging it inspires them to want to do better and become more comfortable with failure. When the bar is held high it teaches people they are more capable and can exceed their own expectations.</li><li><strong>Team Leadership:</strong>Strong and successful teams let go of the hierarchical models. The ones in “control” or “command” know when to defer to those in lower ranks when the mission calls for it. Strong leadership is understanding that everyone can lead and needs to lead within their strengths as it is called for.</li><li><strong>Effort is Important:</strong> Technique and skills can be taught. If you want to learn how to be more aggressive and successful in business and fall on the shy or introverted spectrum, let go of fear of failure. All good leaders understand that the quality of hard work and effort is more important than someone knowing how to do something correctly. </li><li><strong>Mentorship Over Money: </strong>Having strong mentorship, especially when you are young is more important than making money. The money will come eventually if you have the right attitude, develop your skills, and stay humble.</li></ul><p>Check out The Mark Devine Show and all of Mark's content at <a href="https://markdivine.com/">https://markdivine.com/</a></p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 6 Jul 2023 13:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, Mark Devine)</author>
      <link>https://let-them-lead.simplecast.com/episodes/the-mark-divine-show-former-navy-seals-podcast-3hcKvM6S</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is The Mark Divine Show, where I explore what it means to be fearless through the lens of the most inspirational, compassionate, and resilient leaders in the world, including folks from all walks of life: Stoic philosophers, motivational scientists, peace crusaders, and amazing journalists and coaches like my guest today, John U. Bacon. John’s a renowned sports journalist, radio personality, and author of 13 books, including 7 national bestsellers. But most interesting to me, he led the nation’s worst high school hockey team to become one of the best in three years, which we’re going to talk about today, from his book, Let Them Lead:<i> Unexpected Lessons in Leadership From America’s Worst High School Hockey Team. </i>He shares insights on leadership and the power of making things hard. </p><p><strong>John U. Bacon (</strong><a href="https://www.instagram.com/johnubacon/?hl=en" target="_blank"><strong>@John U Bacon</strong></a><strong>)’s</strong> career as a leader and teacher spans three decades. He has won awards for being an inspiring writer, a public speaker, and a college instructor. Bacon has taught at Northwestern’s Medill School of Journalism, and teaches at the University of Michigan. Although he is a mediocre hockey player, his excitement and knowledge of sports has made national history.</p><p>“ You are very impatient with behaviors and very patient with results. If your attitude is good, and you’re doing all things I’m telling you to do and our processes are correct. If you follow those, you will get there and worry less about the results and more about the process. <i>” </i></p><p>– <strong>John U. Bacon</strong></p><p><strong>Key Takeaways:</strong></p><ul><li><strong>High Bar:</strong>Keeping a high bar allows people to rise to the challenge. People prove over and over again that when things are hard and challenging it inspires them to want to do better and become more comfortable with failure. When the bar is held high it teaches people they are more capable and can exceed their own expectations.</li><li><strong>Team Leadership:</strong>Strong and successful teams let go of the hierarchical models. The ones in “control” or “command” know when to defer to those in lower ranks when the mission calls for it. Strong leadership is understanding that everyone can lead and needs to lead within their strengths as it is called for.</li><li><strong>Effort is Important:</strong> Technique and skills can be taught. If you want to learn how to be more aggressive and successful in business and fall on the shy or introverted spectrum, let go of fear of failure. All good leaders understand that the quality of hard work and effort is more important than someone knowing how to do something correctly. </li><li><strong>Mentorship Over Money: </strong>Having strong mentorship, especially when you are young is more important than making money. The money will come eventually if you have the right attitude, develop your skills, and stay humble.</li></ul><p>Check out The Mark Devine Show and all of Mark's content at <a href="https://markdivine.com/">https://markdivine.com/</a></p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>THE MARK DIVINE SHOW | Former Navy Seal’s Podcast</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:summary>This is The Mark Divine Show, where I explore what it means to be fearless through the lens of the most inspirational, compassionate, and resilient leaders in the world, including folks from all walks of life: Stoic philosophers, motivational scientists, peace crusaders, and amazing journalists and coaches like my guest today, John U. Bacon. John’s a renowned sports journalist, radio personality, and author of 13 books, including 7 national bestsellers. But most interesting to me, he led the nation’s worst high school hockey team to become one of the best in three years, which we’re going to talk about today, from his book, Let Them Lead: Unexpected Lessons in Leadership From America’s Worst High School Hockey Team. He shares insights on leadership and the power of making things hard. </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>This is The Mark Divine Show, where I explore what it means to be fearless through the lens of the most inspirational, compassionate, and resilient leaders in the world, including folks from all walks of life: Stoic philosophers, motivational scientists, peace crusaders, and amazing journalists and coaches like my guest today, John U. Bacon. John’s a renowned sports journalist, radio personality, and author of 13 books, including 7 national bestsellers. But most interesting to me, he led the nation’s worst high school hockey team to become one of the best in three years, which we’re going to talk about today, from his book, Let Them Lead: Unexpected Lessons in Leadership From America’s Worst High School Hockey Team. He shares insights on leadership and the power of making things hard. </itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>PAT HUGHES | On Bowman, Gretzky, and the AAPD</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Some people are lucky enough to have one interesting career. Pat Hughes had two: playing in the NHL for nine years, then serving 20 years in the Ann Arbor Police Department, retiring as a Detective Sergeant. He played for legendary coaches Scotty Bowman in Montreal and Glen Sather in Edmonton, and alongside all-time greats Guy Lafleur, Wayne Gretzky, and Mark Messier, winning three Stanley Cups, then earned a reputation as one of Ann Arbor’s most respected law enforcement officers. He talks here about the lessons he learned along the way.</p><p>In this episode Pat tells us what he learned becoming one of the first college hockey players to get to the NHL – “There is no substitute for honest effort,” then playing for two hockey dynasties, the Montreal Canadiens and the Edmonton Oilers. While Montreal was an established, old-school organization, and Edmonton was run by young players whose coach gave them more freedom, the two clubs had a lot in common, as all winning teams do.</p><p>“Great teams are inclusive,” Hughes says. “They bring you in right away, and make you feel like you belong.” He explains how both teams did that, and made every player feel important and valuable to the team’s mission.</p><p>He also talks about both Hall of Fame coaches, Montreal’s Scotty Bowman, and his remarkable ability to influence his players, and Edmonton’s Glen Sather, who took a different approach in some ways, with a younger, looser bunch, but kept his finger on the pulse of his players, and still instilled the principles needed to win four Stanley Cups in five years.</p><p>Hughes also talks about what he learned playing alongside such all-time greats as Yvan Cournoyer, Guy Lafleur, and Ken Dryden in Montreal, and Wayne Gretzky, Mark Messier, and Paul Coffey in Edmonton, among others. A humble man, Hughes had to be prompted to discuss one of his highlights: five goals in one game against Calgary – the second highest total any NHL player has achieved, including Gretzky.</p><p>The conversation then turns to Pat’s lifelong interest in law enforcement, and how he realized his second dream by becoming a Detective Sergeant in the Ann Arbor Police Department, and the lessons he learned in his 20-year career, including how to settle down a college party run amuck without sparking a riot, and how to transfer his ability to stay calm under pressure from his hockey career to the AAPD.</p><p>We close with Pat describing his favorite teacher from high school, and his great advice about being either really smart or very organized. Pat jokes that he picked the latter!</p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2023 12:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (Pat Hughes, John U Bacon)</author>
      <link>https://let-them-lead.simplecast.com/episodes/pat-hughes-on-bowman-gretzky-and-the-aapd-mdl_YBh7</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people are lucky enough to have one interesting career. Pat Hughes had two: playing in the NHL for nine years, then serving 20 years in the Ann Arbor Police Department, retiring as a Detective Sergeant. He played for legendary coaches Scotty Bowman in Montreal and Glen Sather in Edmonton, and alongside all-time greats Guy Lafleur, Wayne Gretzky, and Mark Messier, winning three Stanley Cups, then earned a reputation as one of Ann Arbor’s most respected law enforcement officers. He talks here about the lessons he learned along the way.</p><p>In this episode Pat tells us what he learned becoming one of the first college hockey players to get to the NHL – “There is no substitute for honest effort,” then playing for two hockey dynasties, the Montreal Canadiens and the Edmonton Oilers. While Montreal was an established, old-school organization, and Edmonton was run by young players whose coach gave them more freedom, the two clubs had a lot in common, as all winning teams do.</p><p>“Great teams are inclusive,” Hughes says. “They bring you in right away, and make you feel like you belong.” He explains how both teams did that, and made every player feel important and valuable to the team’s mission.</p><p>He also talks about both Hall of Fame coaches, Montreal’s Scotty Bowman, and his remarkable ability to influence his players, and Edmonton’s Glen Sather, who took a different approach in some ways, with a younger, looser bunch, but kept his finger on the pulse of his players, and still instilled the principles needed to win four Stanley Cups in five years.</p><p>Hughes also talks about what he learned playing alongside such all-time greats as Yvan Cournoyer, Guy Lafleur, and Ken Dryden in Montreal, and Wayne Gretzky, Mark Messier, and Paul Coffey in Edmonton, among others. A humble man, Hughes had to be prompted to discuss one of his highlights: five goals in one game against Calgary – the second highest total any NHL player has achieved, including Gretzky.</p><p>The conversation then turns to Pat’s lifelong interest in law enforcement, and how he realized his second dream by becoming a Detective Sergeant in the Ann Arbor Police Department, and the lessons he learned in his 20-year career, including how to settle down a college party run amuck without sparking a riot, and how to transfer his ability to stay calm under pressure from his hockey career to the AAPD.</p><p>We close with Pat describing his favorite teacher from high school, and his great advice about being either really smart or very organized. Pat jokes that he picked the latter!</p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>PAT HUGHES | On Bowman, Gretzky, and the AAPD</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:summary>Some people are lucky enough to have one interesting career. Pat Hughes had two: playing in the NHL for nine years, then serving 20 years in the Ann Arbor Police Department, retiring as a Detective Sergeant. He played for legendary coaches Scotty Bowman in Montreal and Glen Sather in Edmonton, and alongside all-time greats Guy Lafleur, Wayne Gretzky, and Mark Messier, winning three Stanley Cups, then earned a reputation as one of Ann Arbor’s most respected law enforcement officers. He talks here about the lessons he learned along the way.
In this episode Pat tells us what he learned becoming one of the first college hockey players to get to the NHL – “There is no substitute for honest effort,” then playing for two hockey dynasties, the Montreal Canadiens and the Edmonton Oilers. While Montreal was an established, old-school organization, and Edmonton was run by young players whose coach gave them more freedom, the two clubs had a lot in common, as all winning teams do.
“Great teams are inclusive,” Hughes says. “They bring you in right away, and make you feel like you belong.” He explains how both teams did that, and made every player feel important and valuable to the team’s mission.
He also talks about both Hall of Fame coaches, Montreal’s Scotty Bowman, and his remarkable ability to influence his players, and Edmonton’s Glen Sather, who took a different approach in some ways, with a younger, looser bunch, but kept his finger on the pulse of his players, and still instilled the principles needed to win four Stanley Cups in five years.
Hughes also talks about what he learned playing alongside such all-time greats as Yvan Cournoyer, Guy Lafleur, and Ken Dryden in Montreal, and Wayne Gretzky, Mark Messier, and Paul Coffey in Edmonton, among others. A humble man, Hughes had to be prompted to discuss one of his highlights: five goals in one game against Calgary – the second highest total any NHL player has achieved, including Gretzky.
The conversation then turns to Pat’s lifelong interest in law enforcement, and how he realized his second dream by becoming a Detective Sergeant in the Ann Arbor Police Department, and the lessons he learned in his 20-year career, including how to settle down a college party run amuck without sparking a riot, and how to transfer his ability to stay calm under pressure from his hockey career to the AAPD.
We close with Pat describing his favorite teacher from high school, and his great advice about being either really smart or very organized. Pat jokes that he picked the latter!

About our Host:
For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com

You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Some people are lucky enough to have one interesting career. Pat Hughes had two: playing in the NHL for nine years, then serving 20 years in the Ann Arbor Police Department, retiring as a Detective Sergeant. He played for legendary coaches Scotty Bowman in Montreal and Glen Sather in Edmonton, and alongside all-time greats Guy Lafleur, Wayne Gretzky, and Mark Messier, winning three Stanley Cups, then earned a reputation as one of Ann Arbor’s most respected law enforcement officers. He talks here about the lessons he learned along the way.
In this episode Pat tells us what he learned becoming one of the first college hockey players to get to the NHL – “There is no substitute for honest effort,” then playing for two hockey dynasties, the Montreal Canadiens and the Edmonton Oilers. While Montreal was an established, old-school organization, and Edmonton was run by young players whose coach gave them more freedom, the two clubs had a lot in common, as all winning teams do.
“Great teams are inclusive,” Hughes says. “They bring you in right away, and make you feel like you belong.” He explains how both teams did that, and made every player feel important and valuable to the team’s mission.
He also talks about both Hall of Fame coaches, Montreal’s Scotty Bowman, and his remarkable ability to influence his players, and Edmonton’s Glen Sather, who took a different approach in some ways, with a younger, looser bunch, but kept his finger on the pulse of his players, and still instilled the principles needed to win four Stanley Cups in five years.
Hughes also talks about what he learned playing alongside such all-time greats as Yvan Cournoyer, Guy Lafleur, and Ken Dryden in Montreal, and Wayne Gretzky, Mark Messier, and Paul Coffey in Edmonton, among others. A humble man, Hughes had to be prompted to discuss one of his highlights: five goals in one game against Calgary – the second highest total any NHL player has achieved, including Gretzky.
The conversation then turns to Pat’s lifelong interest in law enforcement, and how he realized his second dream by becoming a Detective Sergeant in the Ann Arbor Police Department, and the lessons he learned in his 20-year career, including how to settle down a college party run amuck without sparking a riot, and how to transfer his ability to stay calm under pressure from his hockey career to the AAPD.
We close with Pat describing his favorite teacher from high school, and his great advice about being either really smart or very organized. Pat jokes that he picked the latter!

About our Host:
For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com

You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Chris Fragner and Pete Heeringa  | Navigating Life After Hockey</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Let Them Lead podcast, host John U. Bacon sits down with Pete Heeringa and Chris Fragner, his former high school hockey captains at Ann Arbor Huron, the subject of Bacon’s book, Let Them Lead. They discuss the valuable life lessons they learned on and off the ice, proving that hockey is more than just a sport; it's a means of developing lifelong skills and relationships.  </p><p>The explain how the team’s basic values – work hard, support your teammates – help the team define itself, and allowed the players to focus on their behaviors, which they controlled, not their results, which they often didn’t.</p><p> </p><p>The two also share how they've made hockey a big part of their lives without playing professionally, by leveraging their passion to propel their careers in finance and engineering, respectively. They also discuss the lessons learned from former Michigan hockey coach Red Berenson, and their favorite teachers, Ms. Thompson and Professor Brophy.</p><p>That these two started out as high school players of Bacon’s, and have since become close friends and mentors themselves – their sons are older than Bacon’s! – is a testament to the depth of relationships sports can create.<br /> </p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 8 Jun 2023 09:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (Chris Fragner, Pete Heeringa, John U Bacon, John Bacon)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of the Let Them Lead podcast, host John U. Bacon sits down with Pete Heeringa and Chris Fragner, his former high school hockey captains at Ann Arbor Huron, the subject of Bacon’s book, Let Them Lead. They discuss the valuable life lessons they learned on and off the ice, proving that hockey is more than just a sport; it's a means of developing lifelong skills and relationships.  </p><p>The explain how the team’s basic values – work hard, support your teammates – help the team define itself, and allowed the players to focus on their behaviors, which they controlled, not their results, which they often didn’t.</p><p> </p><p>The two also share how they've made hockey a big part of their lives without playing professionally, by leveraging their passion to propel their careers in finance and engineering, respectively. They also discuss the lessons learned from former Michigan hockey coach Red Berenson, and their favorite teachers, Ms. Thompson and Professor Brophy.</p><p>That these two started out as high school players of Bacon’s, and have since become close friends and mentors themselves – their sons are older than Bacon’s! – is a testament to the depth of relationships sports can create.<br /> </p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Chris Fragner and Pete Heeringa  | Navigating Life After Hockey</itunes:title>
      <itunes:author>Chris Fragner, Pete Heeringa, John U Bacon, John Bacon</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In this episode of the Let Them Lead podcast, host John U. Bacon sits down with Pete Heeringa and Chris Fragner, his former high school hockey captains at Ann Arbor Huron, the subject of Bacon’s book, Let Them Lead. They discuss the valuable life lessons they learned on and off the ice, proving that hockey is more than just a sport; it&apos;s a means of developing lifelong skills and relationships.  
The explain how the team’s basic values – work hard, support your teammates – help the team define itself, and allowed the players to focus on their behaviors, which they controlled, not their results, which they often didn’t.
The two also share how they&apos;ve made hockey a big part of their lives without playing professionally, by leveraging their passion to propel their careers in finance and engineering, respectively. They also discuss the lessons learned from former Michigan hockey coach Red Berenson, and their favorite teachers, Ms. Thompson and Professor Brophy.
That these two started out as high school players of Bacon’s, and have since become close friends and mentors themselves – their sons are older than Bacon’s! – is a testament to the depth of relationships sports can create.

About our Host:
For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com

You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode of the Let Them Lead podcast, host John U. Bacon sits down with Pete Heeringa and Chris Fragner, his former high school hockey captains at Ann Arbor Huron, the subject of Bacon’s book, Let Them Lead. They discuss the valuable life lessons they learned on and off the ice, proving that hockey is more than just a sport; it&apos;s a means of developing lifelong skills and relationships.  
The explain how the team’s basic values – work hard, support your teammates – help the team define itself, and allowed the players to focus on their behaviors, which they controlled, not their results, which they often didn’t.
The two also share how they&apos;ve made hockey a big part of their lives without playing professionally, by leveraging their passion to propel their careers in finance and engineering, respectively. They also discuss the lessons learned from former Michigan hockey coach Red Berenson, and their favorite teachers, Ms. Thompson and Professor Brophy.
That these two started out as high school players of Bacon’s, and have since become close friends and mentors themselves – their sons are older than Bacon’s! – is a testament to the depth of relationships sports can create.

About our Host:
For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com

You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Doug Stanton | The #1 bestseller defines leadership after tragedy</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Doug Stanton wrote the #1 New York Times bestselling In Harm’s Way and Horse Soldiers. Producer Jerry Bruckheimer turned Horse Soldiers into 12 Strong, starring Chris Hemsworth. Stanton is interested in “dramatic situations when people are forced to make a right decision at the most difficult moment.”</p><p>Here we discuss In Harm’s Way: The Sinking of the USS Indianapolis and the Extraordinary Store of its Survivors, and the lessons it teaches on leadership, responsibility, and accountability to each other, after the absolute worst happens.</p><p>In July of 1945, after the Indianapolis delivered the atomic bomb to Tinian Island so the Enola Gay could drop it on Hiroshima, the Indianapolis was torpedoed by the Japanese, sending 900 sailors into the shark-infested seas. Due to several catastrophic mistakes by Navy command, no one came to the rescue for days after, leaving 600 men to drown or be eaten by sharks. (This is the scene in JAWS that Quint describes while drinking with his crewmates.)</p><p>To Captain McVay III’s great credit, he kept the men together and spirits up during four inhumanly hard days – a sterling example of leadership under tremendous pressure, by McVay and the men themselves -- until finally a U.S. plane discovered them by accident, saving 300 souls. Nonetheless, McVay became the first U.S. Navy captain to be court-martialed, despite testimony from his crew to the Japanese captain who torpedoed his ship. It was a grossly unfair outcome, but Captain McVay never blamed anyone else – though he surely could have. The survivors kept reuniting for years afterward, and through their efforts, McVay’s name was finally cleared in 2000 – 32 years after his death by suicide.</p><p>Stanton tells the story masterfully, and the leadership lessons it has to teach.</p><p>Connect with Doug and get his books:</p><p><a href="http://dougstanton.com" target="_blank">http://dougstanton.com/</a></p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com" target="_blank">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com" target="_blank">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2023 12:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, Doug Stanton)</author>
      <link>https://let-them-lead.simplecast.com/episodes/doug-stanton-the-1-bestseller-defines-leadership-after-tragedy-_VcU2rZR</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug Stanton wrote the #1 New York Times bestselling In Harm’s Way and Horse Soldiers. Producer Jerry Bruckheimer turned Horse Soldiers into 12 Strong, starring Chris Hemsworth. Stanton is interested in “dramatic situations when people are forced to make a right decision at the most difficult moment.”</p><p>Here we discuss In Harm’s Way: The Sinking of the USS Indianapolis and the Extraordinary Store of its Survivors, and the lessons it teaches on leadership, responsibility, and accountability to each other, after the absolute worst happens.</p><p>In July of 1945, after the Indianapolis delivered the atomic bomb to Tinian Island so the Enola Gay could drop it on Hiroshima, the Indianapolis was torpedoed by the Japanese, sending 900 sailors into the shark-infested seas. Due to several catastrophic mistakes by Navy command, no one came to the rescue for days after, leaving 600 men to drown or be eaten by sharks. (This is the scene in JAWS that Quint describes while drinking with his crewmates.)</p><p>To Captain McVay III’s great credit, he kept the men together and spirits up during four inhumanly hard days – a sterling example of leadership under tremendous pressure, by McVay and the men themselves -- until finally a U.S. plane discovered them by accident, saving 300 souls. Nonetheless, McVay became the first U.S. Navy captain to be court-martialed, despite testimony from his crew to the Japanese captain who torpedoed his ship. It was a grossly unfair outcome, but Captain McVay never blamed anyone else – though he surely could have. The survivors kept reuniting for years afterward, and through their efforts, McVay’s name was finally cleared in 2000 – 32 years after his death by suicide.</p><p>Stanton tells the story masterfully, and the leadership lessons it has to teach.</p><p>Connect with Doug and get his books:</p><p><a href="http://dougstanton.com" target="_blank">http://dougstanton.com/</a></p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com" target="_blank">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com" target="_blank">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Doug Stanton | The #1 bestseller defines leadership after tragedy</itunes:title>
      <itunes:author>John U Bacon, Doug Stanton</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Doug Stanton wrote the #1 New York Times bestselling In Harm’s Way and Horse Soldiers. Producer Jerry Bruckheimer turned Horse Soldiers into 12 Strong, starring Chris Hemsworth. Stanton is interested in “dramatic situations when people are forced to make a right decision at the most difficult moment.”

Here we discuss In Harm’s Way: The Sinking of the USS Indianapolis and the Extraordinary Store of its Survivors, and the lessons it teaches on leadership, responsibility, and accountability to each other, after the absolute worst happens.

In July of 1945, after the Indianapolis delivered the atomic bomb to Tinian Island so the Enola Gay could drop it on Hiroshima, the Indianapolis was torpedoed by the Japanese, sending 900 sailors into the shark-infested seas. Due to several catastrophic mistakes by Navy command, no one came to the rescue for days after, leaving 600 men to drown or be eaten by sharks. (This is the scene in JAWS that Quint describes while drinking with his crewmates.)

To Captain McVay III’s great credit, he kept the men together and spirits up during four inhumanly hard days – a sterling example of leadership under tremendous pressure, by McVay and the men themselves -- until finally a U.S. plane discovered them by accident, saving 300 souls. Nonetheless, McVay became the first U.S. Navy captain to be court-martialed, despite testimony from his crew to the Japanese captain who torpedoed his ship. It was a grossly unfair outcome, but Captain McVay never blamed anyone else – though he surely could have. The survivors kept reuniting for years afterward, and through their efforts, McVay’s name was finally cleared in 2000 – 32 years after his death by suicide.

Stanton tells the story masterfully, and the leadership lessons it has to teach. 

Connect with Doug and get his books:
http://dougstanton.com/

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Doug Stanton wrote the #1 New York Times bestselling In Harm’s Way and Horse Soldiers. Producer Jerry Bruckheimer turned Horse Soldiers into 12 Strong, starring Chris Hemsworth. Stanton is interested in “dramatic situations when people are forced to make a right decision at the most difficult moment.”

Here we discuss In Harm’s Way: The Sinking of the USS Indianapolis and the Extraordinary Store of its Survivors, and the lessons it teaches on leadership, responsibility, and accountability to each other, after the absolute worst happens.

In July of 1945, after the Indianapolis delivered the atomic bomb to Tinian Island so the Enola Gay could drop it on Hiroshima, the Indianapolis was torpedoed by the Japanese, sending 900 sailors into the shark-infested seas. Due to several catastrophic mistakes by Navy command, no one came to the rescue for days after, leaving 600 men to drown or be eaten by sharks. (This is the scene in JAWS that Quint describes while drinking with his crewmates.)

To Captain McVay III’s great credit, he kept the men together and spirits up during four inhumanly hard days – a sterling example of leadership under tremendous pressure, by McVay and the men themselves -- until finally a U.S. plane discovered them by accident, saving 300 souls. Nonetheless, McVay became the first U.S. Navy captain to be court-martialed, despite testimony from his crew to the Japanese captain who torpedoed his ship. It was a grossly unfair outcome, but Captain McVay never blamed anyone else – though he surely could have. The survivors kept reuniting for years afterward, and through their efforts, McVay’s name was finally cleared in 2000 – 32 years after his death by suicide.

Stanton tells the story masterfully, and the leadership lessons it has to teach. 

Connect with Doug and get his books:
http://dougstanton.com/

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Jack Harbaugh | Mentors, Failures, and Championships</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Most people know Jack Harbaugh as the father of John, the Super Bowl champion coach of the NFL’s Baltimore Ravens, and Jim, who has led the Michigan Wolverines to two straight Big Ten titles. But Jack took the Western Kentucky Hilltoppers from the verge of extinction to a national title himself, one of the great coaching feats of his era.</p><p>In this episode Jack tells us what he learned</p><p>-from paying his dues while climbing up the ranks of high school coaching – including one of his schools that had exactly two practice footballs;</p><p>-from Hall of Fame coaches Doyt Perry at Bowling Green, and Bo Schembechler at Michigan;</p><p>-from being fired from his first head coaching job at Western Michigan;</p><p>-from his tenure taking over a near-defunct program at Western Kentucky, getting them into the playoffs as a 16th seed, then leading the Hilltoppers to a very unlikely national title.</p><p>Along the way, Jack Harbaugh tells insightful and hilarious stories, many at his own expense, that you won’t forget.</p><p> </p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2023 13:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, Jack Harbough)</author>
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<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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In this episode Jack tells us what he learned
-from paying his dues while climbing up the ranks of high school coaching – including one of his schools that had exactly two practice footballs;
-from Hall of Fame coaches Doyt Perry at Bowling Green, and Bo Schembechler at Michigan;
-from being fired from his first head coaching job at Western Michigan;
-from his tenure taking over a near-defunct program at Western Kentucky, getting them into the playoffs as a 16th seed, then leading the Hilltoppers to a very unlikely national title.

Along the way, Jack Harbaugh tells insightful and hilarious stories, many at his own expense, that you won’t forget.</itunes:summary>
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In this episode Jack tells us what he learned
-from paying his dues while climbing up the ranks of high school coaching – including one of his schools that had exactly two practice footballs;
-from Hall of Fame coaches Doyt Perry at Bowling Green, and Bo Schembechler at Michigan;
-from being fired from his first head coaching job at Western Michigan;
-from his tenure taking over a near-defunct program at Western Kentucky, getting them into the playoffs as a 16th seed, then leading the Hilltoppers to a very unlikely national title.

Along the way, Jack Harbaugh tells insightful and hilarious stories, many at his own expense, that you won’t forget.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>KEVIN DEAN | AP History student and NHL Assistant Coach</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>When they first met, Bacon was a 22-year old assistant hockey coach at Culver Academies, and Kevin Dean was the captain of one of the nation’s best teams, and an AP history student. Dean went onto play 7 years in the NHL, and has since served as an assistant coach for five seasons with Boston and Chicago.</p><p>Decades of pro hockey have taught Dean “high standards <i>help </i>you, not hurt you; the best players <i>want </i>you to coach them; and you have to be honest with your people, without being emotional.”</p><p>In this episode Dean explains how he learned all this with great stories about Culver’s Al Clark, and great NHL captains like New Jersey’s Scott Stevens, Boston’s Patrice Bergeron, and Chicago’s Jonathan Toews.</p><p>Be sure to join this fun, quick, and clever conversation. </p><p> </p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2023 13:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, Kevin Dean)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When they first met, Bacon was a 22-year old assistant hockey coach at Culver Academies, and Kevin Dean was the captain of one of the nation’s best teams, and an AP history student. Dean went onto play 7 years in the NHL, and has since served as an assistant coach for five seasons with Boston and Chicago.</p><p>Decades of pro hockey have taught Dean “high standards <i>help </i>you, not hurt you; the best players <i>want </i>you to coach them; and you have to be honest with your people, without being emotional.”</p><p>In this episode Dean explains how he learned all this with great stories about Culver’s Al Clark, and great NHL captains like New Jersey’s Scott Stevens, Boston’s Patrice Bergeron, and Chicago’s Jonathan Toews.</p><p>Be sure to join this fun, quick, and clever conversation. </p><p> </p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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Decades of pro hockey have taught Dean “high standards help you, not hurt you; the best players want you to coach them; and you have to be honest with your people, without being emotional.”

In this episode Dean explains how he learned all this with great stories about Culver’s Al Clark, and great NHL captains like New Jersey’s Scott Stevens, Boston’s Patrice Bergeron, and Chicago’s Jonathan Toews.

Be sure to join this fun, quick, and clever conversation. 



About our Host:
For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com

You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
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Decades of pro hockey have taught Dean “high standards help you, not hurt you; the best players want you to coach them; and you have to be honest with your people, without being emotional.”

In this episode Dean explains how he learned all this with great stories about Culver’s Al Clark, and great NHL captains like New Jersey’s Scott Stevens, Boston’s Patrice Bergeron, and Chicago’s Jonathan Toews.

Be sure to join this fun, quick, and clever conversation. 



About our Host:
For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com

You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>AJ Harbinger and Johnny Dzubak | THE ART OF CHARM</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>AJ Harbinger and Johnny Dzubak created the immensely popular Art of Charm podcast. When they met years ago they realized they could combine AJ’s work in a University of Michigan cancer research lab and Johnny’s observations tending bar out East to transform the mysteries of influence into hard science. Now they’ve developed a coaching program that helps clients handle every sticky social situation from getting a date to impressing your boss to working a room. A fascinating, fast-paced and fun episode.</p><p>The keys to “Unlocking the Power of Relationships and Communication” include the value of vulnerability in breaking the ice, the importance of peer pressure, and how to change the signals we send out to elicit the responses we want.  </p><p>They now work with organizations from universities to corporations to the military, one of their biggest clients. When you listen to this episode, you’ll understand why. </p><p><br />About our Guests:</p><p>Website: <a href="https://theartofcharm.com">https://theartofcharm.com</a></p><p>Podcast: <a href="https://theartofcharm.com/podcast/">https://theartofcharm.com/podcast/</a></p><p>Facebook Community: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/artofcharm">Facebook</a><br /> </p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 4 May 2023 11:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, AJ Harbinger, Johnny Dzubak, Art of Charm)</author>
      <link>https://let-them-lead.simplecast.com/episodes/aj-harbinger-and-johnny-dzubak-the-art-of-charm-MlSnHXf_</link>
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<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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The keys to “Unlocking the Power of Relationships and Communication” include the value of vulnerability in breaking the ice, the importance of peer pressure, and how to change the signals we send out to elicit the responses we want.  

They now work with organizations from universities to corporations to the military, one of their biggest clients. When you listen to this episode, you’ll understand why. </itunes:summary>
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The keys to “Unlocking the Power of Relationships and Communication” include the value of vulnerability in breaking the ice, the importance of peer pressure, and how to change the signals we send out to elicit the responses we want.  

They now work with organizations from universities to corporations to the military, one of their biggest clients. When you listen to this episode, you’ll understand why. </itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Joe Battista led Penn State hockey to 6 ACHA national titles, then helped Penn State build an $88 million arena and join Big Ten hockey. A master of leadership and teamwork, his book Pragmatic Passion shows you how to “Dream big, keep it real, and make a plan.”  </p><p>I met Joe Battista at Culver Academies (Indiana) in the fall of 1986, when we were both assistant hockey coaches for the legendary Al Clark. Over lunch one day I asked him what he wanted to do after Culver. He said, “Go back to Penn State, become the head hockey coach, win some national titles, go varsity, and build a new rink.”</p><p>This dream was crazy, since the Penn State hockey position hadn’t even opened up. Yet, on October 11, 2013 – 27 years after that conversation – I watched from the glass as Battista, who had won six ACHA national titles as Penn State’s head hockey coach, walked onto the ice at Penn State’s brand new Pegula Arena, and dropped the puck for the ceremonial first faceoff before Penn State’s varsity team played its first game in the Big Ten. It was hard not to get choked up, because I was watching a friend achieve every crazy dream he’d told me about 27 years earlier.</p><p>Battista has funneled the wisdom he’s gained about leadership, teamwork, and simply getting hard things done into a book, “Pragmatic Passion: 7 Common Sense Principles for Achieving Personal and Professional Success,” and a robust speaking career.</p><p>We talk about all of that and more in today’s podcast. </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2023 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>JOE BATTISTA  | Dream big, keep it real, and make a plan</itunes:title>
      <itunes:author>John U Bacon, Joe Battista</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Joe Battista led Penn State hockey to 6 ACHA national titles, then helped Penn State build an $88 million arena and join Big Ten hockey. A master of leadership and teamwork, his book Pragmatic Passion shows you how to “Dream big, keep it real, and make a plan.”  
I met Joe Battista at Culver Academies (Indiana) in the fall of 1986, when we were both assistant hockey coaches for the legendary Al Clark. Over lunch one day I asked him what he wanted to do after Culver. He said, “Go back to Penn State, become the head hockey coach, win some national titles, go varsity, and build a new rink.”
This dream was crazy, since the Penn State hockey position hadn’t even opened up. Yet, on October 11, 2013 – 27 years after that conversation – I watched from the glass as Battista, who had won six ACHA national titles as Penn State’s head hockey coach, walked onto the ice at Penn State’s brand new Pegula Arena, and dropped the puck for the ceremonial first faceoff before Penn State’s varsity team played its first game in the Big Ten. It was hard not to get choked up, because I was watching a friend achieve every crazy dream he’d told me about 27 years earlier.
Battista has funneled the wisdom he’s gained about leadership, teamwork, and simply getting hard things done into a book, “Pragmatic Passion: 7 Common Sense Principles for Achieving Personal and Professional Success,” and a robust speaking career.
We talk about all of that and more in today’s podcast. 

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Joe Battista led Penn State hockey to 6 ACHA national titles, then helped Penn State build an $88 million arena and join Big Ten hockey. A master of leadership and teamwork, his book Pragmatic Passion shows you how to “Dream big, keep it real, and make a plan.”  
I met Joe Battista at Culver Academies (Indiana) in the fall of 1986, when we were both assistant hockey coaches for the legendary Al Clark. Over lunch one day I asked him what he wanted to do after Culver. He said, “Go back to Penn State, become the head hockey coach, win some national titles, go varsity, and build a new rink.”
This dream was crazy, since the Penn State hockey position hadn’t even opened up. Yet, on October 11, 2013 – 27 years after that conversation – I watched from the glass as Battista, who had won six ACHA national titles as Penn State’s head hockey coach, walked onto the ice at Penn State’s brand new Pegula Arena, and dropped the puck for the ceremonial first faceoff before Penn State’s varsity team played its first game in the Big Ten. It was hard not to get choked up, because I was watching a friend achieve every crazy dream he’d told me about 27 years earlier.
Battista has funneled the wisdom he’s gained about leadership, teamwork, and simply getting hard things done into a book, “Pragmatic Passion: 7 Common Sense Principles for Achieving Personal and Professional Success,” and a robust speaking career.
We talk about all of that and more in today’s podcast. 

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
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      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
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      <title>LEADING OURSELVES | Anyone can run a marathon</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>On LET THEM LEAD, we talk about leading others. But what about leading ourselves? In 2020, John Bacon ran 700 miles, lost 35 pounds, and designed his own marathon. The key: Just put your shoes on. </p><p>On my 55th birthday in July, 2019, I tipped the scales at 205. Not healthy when you’re 5-foot-8, and not smart when you have a three-year old son. So I started running, and only eating when I was actually hungry. 35 pounds and 700 miles later, I was prepared to run the Boston Marathon, when Covid-19 postponed it.</p><p>What do you do? I decided to create my own marathon, designed to see everything I care about in my hometown – starting at my parents’ home, running past my schools, parks, rinks, and friends’ homes, and ending on the other side of town at our home, with my wife and 4-year old son Teddy waiting for me at the finish. What I didn’t expect was 100 people to come out and cheer me on every mile along the way, and 30-40 to run or bike alongside (at a safe distance!). In 2000 we were very hungry for even a little bit of good news, inspiration, and connection – and maybe we still are.</p><p>The story has appeared in the <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/04/20/i-was-supposed-run-boston-marathon-today-instead-i-ran-something-better/" target="_blank">Washington Post</a>, <a href="https://www.wbur.org/onlyagame/2020/04/24/boston-marathon-covid-postponed-ann-arbor" target="_blank">National Public Radio</a>, the <a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w172x3br1cxmr3p" target="_blank">BBC’s “Stories of Hope”</a> (it runs from 27:30-34:30, with a cameo by my 4-year old son, Teddy, <a href="https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/other/2020/04/20/makeshift-marathon-more-than-finish-line-its-family-friends/5168028002/" target="_blank">Detroit News</a>, <a href="https://www.michiganradio.org/post/boston-marathon-postponed-because-covid-19-john-u-bacon-runs-baco-thon" target="_blank">Michigan Radio</a>, the <a href="https://www.clarin.com/deportes/coronavirus-arraso-mapa-running-grandes-maratones-mundo_0_gqDaQ_Zv-.html" target="_blank">Clarin newspaper chain,</a> Argentina’s main media outlet, and <a href="https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/mundo/2020/05/sem-poder-correr-maratona-de-boston-escritor-cria-sua-propria-prova-em-ann-arbor.shtml" target="_blank">Folha, Brazil’s</a> biggest newspaper chain.</p><p>Hope you enjoy it. </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2023 16:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon)</author>
      <link>https://let-them-lead.simplecast.com/episodes/leading-ourselves-anyone-can-run-a-marathon-z58mIUPc</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On LET THEM LEAD, we talk about leading others. But what about leading ourselves? In 2020, John Bacon ran 700 miles, lost 35 pounds, and designed his own marathon. The key: Just put your shoes on. </p><p>On my 55th birthday in July, 2019, I tipped the scales at 205. Not healthy when you’re 5-foot-8, and not smart when you have a three-year old son. So I started running, and only eating when I was actually hungry. 35 pounds and 700 miles later, I was prepared to run the Boston Marathon, when Covid-19 postponed it.</p><p>What do you do? I decided to create my own marathon, designed to see everything I care about in my hometown – starting at my parents’ home, running past my schools, parks, rinks, and friends’ homes, and ending on the other side of town at our home, with my wife and 4-year old son Teddy waiting for me at the finish. What I didn’t expect was 100 people to come out and cheer me on every mile along the way, and 30-40 to run or bike alongside (at a safe distance!). In 2000 we were very hungry for even a little bit of good news, inspiration, and connection – and maybe we still are.</p><p>The story has appeared in the <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/04/20/i-was-supposed-run-boston-marathon-today-instead-i-ran-something-better/" target="_blank">Washington Post</a>, <a href="https://www.wbur.org/onlyagame/2020/04/24/boston-marathon-covid-postponed-ann-arbor" target="_blank">National Public Radio</a>, the <a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w172x3br1cxmr3p" target="_blank">BBC’s “Stories of Hope”</a> (it runs from 27:30-34:30, with a cameo by my 4-year old son, Teddy, <a href="https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/other/2020/04/20/makeshift-marathon-more-than-finish-line-its-family-friends/5168028002/" target="_blank">Detroit News</a>, <a href="https://www.michiganradio.org/post/boston-marathon-postponed-because-covid-19-john-u-bacon-runs-baco-thon" target="_blank">Michigan Radio</a>, the <a href="https://www.clarin.com/deportes/coronavirus-arraso-mapa-running-grandes-maratones-mundo_0_gqDaQ_Zv-.html" target="_blank">Clarin newspaper chain,</a> Argentina’s main media outlet, and <a href="https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/mundo/2020/05/sem-poder-correr-maratona-de-boston-escritor-cria-sua-propria-prova-em-ann-arbor.shtml" target="_blank">Folha, Brazil’s</a> biggest newspaper chain.</p><p>Hope you enjoy it. </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>LEADING OURSELVES | Anyone can run a marathon</itunes:title>
      <itunes:author>John U Bacon</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>On LET THEM LEAD, we talk about leading others. But what about leading ourselves? In 2020, John Bacon ran 700 miles, lost 35 pounds, and designed his own marathon. The key: Just put your shoes on. 

On my 55th birthday in July, 2019, I tipped the scales at 205. Not healthy when you’re 5-foot-8, and not smart when you have a three-year old son. So I started running, and only eating when I was actually hungry. 35 pounds and 700 miles later, I was prepared to run the Boston Marathon, when Covid-19 postponed it.

What do you do? I decided to create my own marathon, designed to see everything I care about in my hometown – starting at my parents’ home, running past my schools, parks, rinks, and friends’ homes, and ending on the other side of town at our home, with my wife and 4-year old son Teddy waiting for me at the finish. What I didn’t expect was 100 people to come out and cheer me on every mile along the way, and 30-40 to run or bike alongside (at a safe distance!). In 2000 we were very hungry for even a little bit of good news, inspiration, and connection – and maybe we still are.

The story has appeared in the Washington Post, National Public Radio, the BBC’s “Stories of Hope” (it runs from 27:30-34:30, with a cameo by my 4-year old son, Teddy, Detroit News, Michigan Radio, the Clarin newspaper chain, Argentina’s main media outlet, and Folha, Brazil’s biggest newspaper chain.

Hope you enjoy it. 

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com

You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>On LET THEM LEAD, we talk about leading others. But what about leading ourselves? In 2020, John Bacon ran 700 miles, lost 35 pounds, and designed his own marathon. The key: Just put your shoes on. 

On my 55th birthday in July, 2019, I tipped the scales at 205. Not healthy when you’re 5-foot-8, and not smart when you have a three-year old son. So I started running, and only eating when I was actually hungry. 35 pounds and 700 miles later, I was prepared to run the Boston Marathon, when Covid-19 postponed it.

What do you do? I decided to create my own marathon, designed to see everything I care about in my hometown – starting at my parents’ home, running past my schools, parks, rinks, and friends’ homes, and ending on the other side of town at our home, with my wife and 4-year old son Teddy waiting for me at the finish. What I didn’t expect was 100 people to come out and cheer me on every mile along the way, and 30-40 to run or bike alongside (at a safe distance!). In 2000 we were very hungry for even a little bit of good news, inspiration, and connection – and maybe we still are.

The story has appeared in the Washington Post, National Public Radio, the BBC’s “Stories of Hope” (it runs from 27:30-34:30, with a cameo by my 4-year old son, Teddy, Detroit News, Michigan Radio, the Clarin newspaper chain, Argentina’s main media outlet, and Folha, Brazil’s biggest newspaper chain.

Hope you enjoy it. 

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com

You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
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      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
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      <title>MARK GRISDALE - Creating a New High School | Season 2 Episode 8</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>A native of Cheboygan, MI, Mark Grisdale recalls his football coach, Irv Sigler, quietly and privately telling Grisdale he knew he was padding his work out sheet, and if he kept cutting corners the team would not be undefeated again the next year. The lessons stuck. Grisdale fell into education and soon discovered teaching, coaching, and leading were his passions. Ten years ago he started a new high school in Houston, and it’s now one of the state’s best. <br /> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Apr 2023 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, MARK GRISDALE)</author>
      <link>https://let-them-lead.simplecast.com/episodes/mark-grisdale-creating-a-new-high-school-season-2-episode-8-9aPPNOZP</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A native of Cheboygan, MI, Mark Grisdale recalls his football coach, Irv Sigler, quietly and privately telling Grisdale he knew he was padding his work out sheet, and if he kept cutting corners the team would not be undefeated again the next year. The lessons stuck. Grisdale fell into education and soon discovered teaching, coaching, and leading were his passions. Ten years ago he started a new high school in Houston, and it’s now one of the state’s best. <br /> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>MARK GRISDALE - Creating a New High School | Season 2 Episode 8</itunes:title>
      <itunes:author>John U Bacon, MARK GRISDALE</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>A native of Cheboygan, MI, Mark Grisdale recalls his football coach, Irv Sigler, quietly and privately telling Grisdale he knew he was padding his work out sheet, and if he kept cutting corners the team would not be undefeated again the next year. The lessons stuck. Grisdale fell into education and soon discovered teaching, coaching, and leading were his passions. Ten years ago he started a new high school in Houston, and it’s now one of the state’s best. 

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>A native of Cheboygan, MI, Mark Grisdale recalls his football coach, Irv Sigler, quietly and privately telling Grisdale he knew he was padding his work out sheet, and if he kept cutting corners the team would not be undefeated again the next year. The lessons stuck. Grisdale fell into education and soon discovered teaching, coaching, and leading were his passions. Ten years ago he started a new high school in Houston, and it’s now one of the state’s best. 

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:keywords>education, high school, teaching, vision, principal, leadership, celebration, progress, mentorship, connection</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>Mayor Christopher Taylor and the Risks and Rewards of Leading a Local Government | Season 2 Episode 7</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Leading a city is a largely thankless job, where strangers get to insult you in public. So if you’re not excited about actually governing, this isn’t for you. Christopher Taylor is a successful lawyer, but has served as Ann Arbor’s mayor since 2014 – for peanuts – and he loves it. “In a democracy, collaboration is the key. You simply have to get buy-in. So when we make a decision, a lot of smart people have given it a lot more thought than you’d think!” He even sings in this interview – and he’s good!</p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 6 Apr 2023 09:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (Christopher Taylor, John U Bacon)</author>
      <link>https://let-them-lead.simplecast.com/episodes/mayor-christopher-taylor-and-the-risks-and-rewards-of-leading-a-local-government-season-2-episode-7-5_ih4MZv</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leading a city is a largely thankless job, where strangers get to insult you in public. So if you’re not excited about actually governing, this isn’t for you. Christopher Taylor is a successful lawyer, but has served as Ann Arbor’s mayor since 2014 – for peanuts – and he loves it. “In a democracy, collaboration is the key. You simply have to get buy-in. So when we make a decision, a lot of smart people have given it a lot more thought than you’d think!” He even sings in this interview – and he’s good!</p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
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For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
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For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Jim Tobin FDR Biographer</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>When Franklin Roosevelt contracted polio at 38, his career seemed over. 12 years later he was elected president -- strengthened, not weakened, by his battle with polio to lead the nation through the Great Depression and World War II. Award-winning author James Tobin tells his story. </p><p><a href="https://www.jamestobinwrites.com/">https://www.jamestobinwrites.com/</a></p><p><br />For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2023 13:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Franklin Roosevelt contracted polio at 38, his career seemed over. 12 years later he was elected president -- strengthened, not weakened, by his battle with polio to lead the nation through the Great Depression and World War II. Award-winning author James Tobin tells his story. </p><p><a href="https://www.jamestobinwrites.com/">https://www.jamestobinwrites.com/</a></p><p><br />For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
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      <itunes:title>Jim Tobin FDR Biographer</itunes:title>
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https://www.jamestobinwrites.com/

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
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      <title>David Meltzer The Real Jerry Maguire</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>If you’ve seen Jerry Maguire, you know David Meltzer’s story – or part of it. The inspiration for the famous movie, Meltzer started with little, quickly rose to the top of the sports agent world – when his wife gave him a wake-up call. He later lost it all, bankrupt – then rebuilt his fortune on new principles. This is his story.</p><p>Davids Website: <a href="https://dmeltzer.com/" target="_blank">https://dmeltzer.com/</a></p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2023 13:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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To connect with David: 
https://dmeltzer.com/

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
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      <title>Figured Restructuring, Followed by Turnaround w/ Fred Crawford</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Fred Crawford played for the MSU basketball program in the mid ‘80s, but wisely decided to focus on school. He worked his way to the top of AlixPartners, a New York firm specializing in turnaround and restructuring, including arguably the best-known turnaround in corporate history: General Motors.“One thing you learn quickly: time is not your friend, and neither is perfection. You have to move fast, and if 80-percent of your plan is working, you’re doing great.</p><p><br />For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a><br /><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:<br /><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2023 13:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, Fred Crawford)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred Crawford played for the MSU basketball program in the mid ‘80s, but wisely decided to focus on school. He worked his way to the top of AlixPartners, a New York firm specializing in turnaround and restructuring, including arguably the best-known turnaround in corporate history: General Motors.“One thing you learn quickly: time is not your friend, and neither is perfection. You have to move fast, and if 80-percent of your plan is working, you’re doing great.</p><p><br />For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a><br /><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:<br /><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
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For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
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For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In Part III, the final episode of this interview, Mauti and Zordich tell the story of the rest of Penn State’s 2012 season. After almost all the players decided to stay, the team suffered a heart-breaking 0-2 start, followed by a stirring run, including revenge against Illinois, capped by an overtime victory against future Big Ten champion Wisconsin. Then they describe what it all means today. </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 7 Mar 2023 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Part III, the final episode of this interview, Mauti and Zordich tell the story of the rest of Penn State’s 2012 season. After almost all the players decided to stay, the team suffered a heart-breaking 0-2 start, followed by a stirring run, including revenge against Illinois, capped by an overtime victory against future Big Ten champion Wisconsin. Then they describe what it all means today. </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Saving Penn State Football Part 3</itunes:title>
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For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>In Part III, the final episode of this interview, Mauti and Zordich tell the story of the rest of Penn State’s 2012 season. After almost all the players decided to stay, the team suffered a heart-breaking 0-2 start, followed by a stirring run, including revenge against Illinois, capped by an overtime victory against future Big Ten champion Wisconsin. Then they describe what it all means today. 
For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Saving Penn State Football - Part 2</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>In Part II of this podcast, Mauti and Zordich describe the 24 hours after NCAA sanctions hit, when dozens of teammates were considering leaving and others actually driving off. With Penn State in danger of imploding, these two met this moment of truth head on, working with rookie head coach Bill O’Brien to keep the team together, and the program alive.</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2023 11:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, Mike Mauti, Mike Zordich)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Part II of this podcast, Mauti and Zordich describe the 24 hours after NCAA sanctions hit, when dozens of teammates were considering leaving and others actually driving off. With Penn State in danger of imploding, these two met this moment of truth head on, working with rookie head coach Bill O’Brien to keep the team together, and the program alive.</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Saving Penn State Football - Part 2</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:summary>In Part II of this podcast, Mauti and Zordich describe the 24 hours after NCAA sanctions hit, when dozens of teammates were considering leaving and others actually driving off. With Penn State in danger of imploding, these two met this moment of truth head on, working with rookie head coach Bill O’Brien to keep the team together, and the program alive. 

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>In Part II of this podcast, Mauti and Zordich describe the 24 hours after NCAA sanctions hit, when dozens of teammates were considering leaving and others actually driving off. With Penn State in danger of imploding, these two met this moment of truth head on, working with rookie head coach Bill O’Brien to keep the team together, and the program alive. 

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Saving Penn State Football | Season 2 Episode 1</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>After a strong Season One (thanks to our great guests and listeners!), we’re ready to launch Season Two of Let Them Lead: a podcast about the risks and rewards of leading today. We’ll have more great guests talking about their mentors, their hardest days, and their most satisfying triumphs leading in just about every endeavor imaginable, including sports, education, health care, business, law, politics – you name it. Some are famous and some are not, but all have done amazing work in their fields, and have lessons to teach us that we can apply to our work every day.</p><p> </p><p><strong>Guests: Mike Mauti and Mike Zordich</strong></p><p>Before Penn State’s 2012 football season, Jerry Sandusky was arrested, Joe Paterno resigned and soon died, and the NCAA announced severe sanctions on the program. If you’re a player on that team, what do you do? Seniors Mike Mauti and Mike Zordich decided to stay and fight, and convince their teammates to do so, too. In Part I of this three-part interview, they explain why. </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these social platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2023 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John Bacon, Mike Mauti, Mike Zordich)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After a strong Season One (thanks to our great guests and listeners!), we’re ready to launch Season Two of Let Them Lead: a podcast about the risks and rewards of leading today. We’ll have more great guests talking about their mentors, their hardest days, and their most satisfying triumphs leading in just about every endeavor imaginable, including sports, education, health care, business, law, politics – you name it. Some are famous and some are not, but all have done amazing work in their fields, and have lessons to teach us that we can apply to our work every day.</p><p> </p><p><strong>Guests: Mike Mauti and Mike Zordich</strong></p><p>Before Penn State’s 2012 football season, Jerry Sandusky was arrested, Joe Paterno resigned and soon died, and the NCAA announced severe sanctions on the program. If you’re a player on that team, what do you do? Seniors Mike Mauti and Mike Zordich decided to stay and fight, and convince their teammates to do so, too. In Part I of this three-part interview, they explain why. </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these social platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>After a strong Season One (thanks to our great guests and listeners!), we’re ready to launch Season Two of Let Them Lead: a podcast about the risks and rewards of leading today. We’ll have more great guests talking about their mentors, their hardest days, and their most satisfying triumphs leading in just about every endeavor imaginable, including sports, education, health care, business, law, politics – you name it. Some are famous and some are not, but all have done amazing work in their fields, and have lessons to teach us that we can apply to our work every day.

Guests: Mike Mauti and Mike Zordich
Before Penn State’s 2012 football season, Jerry Sandusky was arrested, Joe Paterno resigned and soon died, and the NCAA announced severe sanctions on the program. If you’re a player on that team, what do you do? Seniors Mike Mauti and Mike Zordich decided to stay and fight, and convince their teammates to do so, too. In Part I of this three-part interview, they explain why. 

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com

You can connect with John via these social platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>After a strong Season One (thanks to our great guests and listeners!), we’re ready to launch Season Two of Let Them Lead: a podcast about the risks and rewards of leading today. We’ll have more great guests talking about their mentors, their hardest days, and their most satisfying triumphs leading in just about every endeavor imaginable, including sports, education, health care, business, law, politics – you name it. Some are famous and some are not, but all have done amazing work in their fields, and have lessons to teach us that we can apply to our work every day.

Guests: Mike Mauti and Mike Zordich
Before Penn State’s 2012 football season, Jerry Sandusky was arrested, Joe Paterno resigned and soon died, and the NCAA announced severe sanctions on the program. If you’re a player on that team, what do you do? Seniors Mike Mauti and Mike Zordich decided to stay and fight, and convince their teammates to do so, too. In Part I of this three-part interview, they explain why. 

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com

You can connect with John via these social platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Joe Parker | Let Them Lead Episode 40</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Joe Parker grew up in Battle Creek, Michigan, where a 6th grade teacher recommended him for student council. He never forgot it. Parker went on to win multiple state titles in swimming, became an All-American at the University of Michigan, then embarked on his career in athletic administration, serving for Bill Martin at UM, plus Texas, Oklahoma, and Texas Tech before becoming the AD at Colorado State. There he has built a new football stadium, and led the Rams to great success on and off the field. One key: higher leaders who see themselves first as educators.</p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these social platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2022 13:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, Joe Parker)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Parker grew up in Battle Creek, Michigan, where a 6th grade teacher recommended him for student council. He never forgot it. Parker went on to win multiple state titles in swimming, became an All-American at the University of Michigan, then embarked on his career in athletic administration, serving for Bill Martin at UM, plus Texas, Oklahoma, and Texas Tech before becoming the AD at Colorado State. There he has built a new football stadium, and led the Rams to great success on and off the field. One key: higher leaders who see themselves first as educators.</p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these social platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Joe Parker | Let Them Lead Episode 40</itunes:title>
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For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these social platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
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For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these social platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week, with the Helber family’s approval, we’re presenting my eulogy of their husband, father, and grandfather, Paul Helber, who was very well known and respected by anyone who grew up playing hockey (and probably baseball and football, too) in Ann Arbor. Our relationship started, amazingly, after I was the last man cut from his 1978-79 travel team. He handled it so well it became the foundation of a lifelong friendship, one in which he served as mentor to me on many levels – as I know he did for hundreds of other young people, too.</p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p>http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</p><p>http://www.johnubacon.com</p><p>You can connect with John via these social platforms: </p><p>https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</p><p>https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 1 Jul 2022 16:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John Bacon, Paul Helber)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, with the Helber family’s approval, we’re presenting my eulogy of their husband, father, and grandfather, Paul Helber, who was very well known and respected by anyone who grew up playing hockey (and probably baseball and football, too) in Ann Arbor. Our relationship started, amazingly, after I was the last man cut from his 1978-79 travel team. He handled it so well it became the foundation of a lifelong friendship, one in which he served as mentor to me on many levels – as I know he did for hundreds of other young people, too.</p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p>http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</p><p>http://www.johnubacon.com</p><p>You can connect with John via these social platforms: </p><p>https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</p><p>https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Remembering Paul Helber | Let Them Lead Episode 39</itunes:title>
      <itunes:author>John Bacon, Paul Helber</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>This week, with the Helber family’s approval, we’re presenting my eulogy of their husband, father, and grandfather, Paul Helber, who was very well known and respected by anyone who grew up playing hockey (and probably baseball and football, too) in Ann Arbor. Our relationship started, amazingly, after I was the last man cut from his 1978-79 travel team. He handled it so well it became the foundation of a lifelong friendship, one in which he served as mentor to me on many levels – as I know he did for hundreds of other young people, too.

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these social platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week, with the Helber family’s approval, we’re presenting my eulogy of their husband, father, and grandfather, Paul Helber, who was very well known and respected by anyone who grew up playing hockey (and probably baseball and football, too) in Ann Arbor. Our relationship started, amazingly, after I was the last man cut from his 1978-79 travel team. He handled it so well it became the foundation of a lifelong friendship, one in which he served as mentor to me on many levels – as I know he did for hundreds of other young people, too.

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these social platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Brenda Ryan | Let Them Lead Episode 38</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Brenda Ryan grew up in Detroit in the late 1960s, and took a big chance to enroll at Michigan Tech, sight unseen. She started a promising career at General Motors before getting her masters and starting her own companies – three, now, all successful – while becoming the Chair of the MTU Board of Trustees. Some keys: when you become a leader, don’t tell people what to do, ask them to teach you; when you suffer a bad break, take control of your situation; be inclusive of your people’s opinions, then be decisive and own it.</p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these social platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2022 13:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, Brenda Ryan)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brenda Ryan grew up in Detroit in the late 1960s, and took a big chance to enroll at Michigan Tech, sight unseen. She started a promising career at General Motors before getting her masters and starting her own companies – three, now, all successful – while becoming the Chair of the MTU Board of Trustees. Some keys: when you become a leader, don’t tell people what to do, ask them to teach you; when you suffer a bad break, take control of your situation; be inclusive of your people’s opinions, then be decisive and own it.</p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these social platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Brenda Ryan | Let Them Lead Episode 38</itunes:title>
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For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these social platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Brenda Ryan grew up in Detroit in the late 1960s, and took a big chance to enroll at Michigan Tech, sight unseen. She started a promising career at General Motors before getting her masters and starting her own companies – three, now, all successful – while becoming the Chair of the MTU Board of Trustees. Some keys: when you become a leader, don’t tell people what to do, ask them to teach you; when you suffer a bad break, take control of your situation; be inclusive of your people’s opinions, then be decisive and own it. 

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these social platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Amanda Macaluso | Let Them Lead Episode 37 - Corrected Audio</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Almost three decades ago, Amanda Macaluso, from Australia, decided to work at Hayo-Went-Ha for Girls just for a year, on a lark – but she never left. Thanks to a dramatic scene on a beach, she was transported her from possibly being fired to becoming Director on Lake Arbutus, near Traverse City, MI, a position she has held for XX() years. Her keys: “Make camp a safe place to be different, and try new things; no one fails camp; ask candidates what they do for fun, and hire interesting people who know how to go the extra mile; and don’t ask them to do anything you wouldn’t.” During Covid, Macaluso wasn’t above cleaning the bathrooms.</p><p>(Editors notes - Sorry for the mix up on the original upload. Please enjoy this excellent conversation)</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these social platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2022 12:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, Aanda Macaluso)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Almost three decades ago, Amanda Macaluso, from Australia, decided to work at Hayo-Went-Ha for Girls just for a year, on a lark – but she never left. Thanks to a dramatic scene on a beach, she was transported her from possibly being fired to becoming Director on Lake Arbutus, near Traverse City, MI, a position she has held for XX() years. Her keys: “Make camp a safe place to be different, and try new things; no one fails camp; ask candidates what they do for fun, and hire interesting people who know how to go the extra mile; and don’t ask them to do anything you wouldn’t.” During Covid, Macaluso wasn’t above cleaning the bathrooms.</p><p>(Editors notes - Sorry for the mix up on the original upload. Please enjoy this excellent conversation)</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these social platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Amanda Macaluso | Let Them Lead Episode 37 - Corrected Audio</itunes:title>
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For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these social platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Almost three decades ago, Amanda Macaluso, from Australia, decided to work at Hayo-Went-Ha for Girls just for a year, on a lark – but she never left. Thanks to a dramatic scene on a beach, she was transported her from possibly being fired to becoming Director on Lake Arbutus, near Traverse City, MI, a position she has held for XX() years. Her keys: “Make camp a safe place to be different, and try new things; no one fails camp; ask candidates what they do for fun, and hire interesting people who know how to go the extra mile; and don’t ask them to do anything you wouldn’t.” During Covid, Macaluso wasn’t above cleaning the bathrooms.

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these social platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Brad Black grew up in Omaha, Nebraska, where he met people from across the country passing through their train station. He rose up quickly through the ranks at Pitney-Bowes, then re-built the sales side of Stryker Corporation, and transformed the culture so dramatically, the employees voted to decertify their union. He then founded Humanex, which transfers his leadership principles to athletic and academic organizations, to great effect. A few keys: If you don’t think you can do it, don’t expect anyone else to; keep it simple: work hard, work smart, and care about people; promote from within when you can; talent, culture, and teams make the difference, and these ideas are transferrable to any field. </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these social platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 9 Jun 2022 13:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, Brad Black)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad Black grew up in Omaha, Nebraska, where he met people from across the country passing through their train station. He rose up quickly through the ranks at Pitney-Bowes, then re-built the sales side of Stryker Corporation, and transformed the culture so dramatically, the employees voted to decertify their union. He then founded Humanex, which transfers his leadership principles to athletic and academic organizations, to great effect. A few keys: If you don’t think you can do it, don’t expect anyone else to; keep it simple: work hard, work smart, and care about people; promote from within when you can; talent, culture, and teams make the difference, and these ideas are transferrable to any field. </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these social platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Brad Black | Let Them Lead Episode 36</itunes:title>
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For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these social platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
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For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these social platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Today's podcast is the commencement address I gave for Michigan Tech this spring. In it, I discuss what I call "the myth of inevitability. We’re often told our present world was created by enormous, unstoppable forces. Not true. It was often shaped by individuals, in crucial moments." And then I explain why these graduates are uniquely prepared to lead us -- and need to be! I tried to give a 15-20 minute talk that is inspiring, entertaining, occasionally funny, and reassuring, at a time we could use more of all of those things. You can decide if I succeeded.</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these social platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 2 Jun 2022 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John Bacon)</author>
      <link>https://let-them-lead.simplecast.com/episodes/mtu-commencement-episode-35-_ju_X0yg</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today's podcast is the commencement address I gave for Michigan Tech this spring. In it, I discuss what I call "the myth of inevitability. We’re often told our present world was created by enormous, unstoppable forces. Not true. It was often shaped by individuals, in crucial moments." And then I explain why these graduates are uniquely prepared to lead us -- and need to be! I tried to give a 15-20 minute talk that is inspiring, entertaining, occasionally funny, and reassuring, at a time we could use more of all of those things. You can decide if I succeeded.</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these social platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>MTU Commencement | Episode 35</itunes:title>
      <itunes:author>John Bacon</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Today&apos;s podcast is the commencement address I gave for Michigan Tech this spring. In it, I discuss what I call &quot;the myth of inevitability. We’re often told our present world was created by enormous, unstoppable forces. Not true. It was often shaped by individuals, in crucial moments.&quot; And then I explain why these graduates are uniquely prepared to lead us -- and need to be! I tried to give a 15-20 minute talk that is inspiring, entertaining, occasionally funny, and reassuring, at a time we could use more of all of those things. You can decide if I succeeded.

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com

You can connect with John via these social platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Today&apos;s podcast is the commencement address I gave for Michigan Tech this spring. In it, I discuss what I call &quot;the myth of inevitability. We’re often told our present world was created by enormous, unstoppable forces. Not true. It was often shaped by individuals, in crucial moments.&quot; And then I explain why these graduates are uniquely prepared to lead us -- and need to be! I tried to give a 15-20 minute talk that is inspiring, entertaining, occasionally funny, and reassuring, at a time we could use more of all of those things. You can decide if I succeeded.

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com

You can connect with John via these social platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Al Gallup | Let Them Lead Episode 34</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Al Gallup, a 96-year old veteran of World War II, still bikes every day. A former assistant principal at Ann Arbor Huron and Dean of Community High School, during the early 70s he actually let the Huron students engage in sanctioned drag racing, which effectively ended the all-too common racial fights. His keys: “Keep moving!”; “You can’t motivate anyone you don’t know,” which I have quoted in Let Them Lead; “Don’t say ‘No, because,’ but ‘Yes, if…’”; Let them set their goals, rules, and even punishments.</p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these social platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2022 11:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (Al Gallup, John U Bacon)</author>
      <link>https://let-them-lead.simplecast.com/episodes/al-gallup-let-them-lead-episode-34-GJY_uHge</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al Gallup, a 96-year old veteran of World War II, still bikes every day. A former assistant principal at Ann Arbor Huron and Dean of Community High School, during the early 70s he actually let the Huron students engage in sanctioned drag racing, which effectively ended the all-too common racial fights. His keys: “Keep moving!”; “You can’t motivate anyone you don’t know,” which I have quoted in Let Them Lead; “Don’t say ‘No, because,’ but ‘Yes, if…’”; Let them set their goals, rules, and even punishments.</p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these social platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Al Gallup | Let Them Lead Episode 34</itunes:title>
      <itunes:author>Al Gallup, John U Bacon</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Al Gallup, a 96-year old veteran of World War II, still bikes every day. A former assistant principal at Ann Arbor Huron and Dean of Community High School, during the early 70s he actually let the Huron students engage in sanctioned drag racing, which effectively ended the all-too common racial fights. His keys: “Keep moving!”; “You can’t motivate anyone you don’t know,” which I have quoted in Let Them Lead; “Don’t say ‘No, because,’ but ‘Yes, if…’”; Let them set their goals, rules, and even punishments.

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these social platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon
</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Al Gallup, a 96-year old veteran of World War II, still bikes every day. A former assistant principal at Ann Arbor Huron and Dean of Community High School, during the early 70s he actually let the Huron students engage in sanctioned drag racing, which effectively ended the all-too common racial fights. His keys: “Keep moving!”; “You can’t motivate anyone you don’t know,” which I have quoted in Let Them Lead; “Don’t say ‘No, because,’ but ‘Yes, if…’”; Let them set their goals, rules, and even punishments.

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these social platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon
</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Rick Koubek | Let Them Lead Episode 33</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Richard Koubek grew up in Illinois and attended community college, but eventually rose to become Dean at Penn State, Provost at LSU, and Michigan Tech’s tenth president in 2018, where he has led MTU to record enrollment, research grants, and donations. His take-aways: sometimes you have to sit on the bench and let your people take over; assume the best of people until they prove otherwise; hire for character, and sell the mission, not the salary; and when in doubt, trust your values.</p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these social platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2022 12:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, John Bacon, Rick Koubek)</author>
      <link>https://let-them-lead.simplecast.com/episodes/rick-koubek-let-them-lead-episode-33-VZZd5BwW</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Koubek grew up in Illinois and attended community college, but eventually rose to become Dean at Penn State, Provost at LSU, and Michigan Tech’s tenth president in 2018, where he has led MTU to record enrollment, research grants, and donations. His take-aways: sometimes you have to sit on the bench and let your people take over; assume the best of people until they prove otherwise; hire for character, and sell the mission, not the salary; and when in doubt, trust your values.</p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these social platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Rick Koubek | Let Them Lead Episode 33</itunes:title>
      <itunes:author>John U Bacon, John Bacon, Rick Koubek</itunes:author>
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For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these social platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
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For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these social platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Dave Deluca | Let Them Lead Episode 32</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Dave Deluca never went to camp as a kid, but got hooked on it when he became a camp counselor in college. Now he’s spent four decades working in YMCA camps as a counselor, a camp director, and now a CEO of Hayo-Went-Ha Camps, overseeing two major YMCA camps in Michigan. Most of what works for a good YMCA camp works for Fortune 500 companies, too: When you become a leader, ask for help; when you hire, look for empathy and compassion before skills; and when you’ve got the right people, “you’ve got to let them paint the porch and carve the turkey.” You’ll be amazed how many lessons from YMCA camps apply to your work today.</p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these social platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2022 13:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, John Bacon, Dave Deluca)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave Deluca never went to camp as a kid, but got hooked on it when he became a camp counselor in college. Now he’s spent four decades working in YMCA camps as a counselor, a camp director, and now a CEO of Hayo-Went-Ha Camps, overseeing two major YMCA camps in Michigan. Most of what works for a good YMCA camp works for Fortune 500 companies, too: When you become a leader, ask for help; when you hire, look for empathy and compassion before skills; and when you’ve got the right people, “you’ve got to let them paint the porch and carve the turkey.” You’ll be amazed how many lessons from YMCA camps apply to your work today.</p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these social platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
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      <itunes:title>Dave Deluca | Let Them Lead Episode 32</itunes:title>
      <itunes:author>John U Bacon, John Bacon, Dave Deluca</itunes:author>
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For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these social platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
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For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these social platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Brian Lawlor | Let Them Lead Episode 31</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Brian Lawlor has been the president of local media for Scripps TV for ten years, which has grown from 10 stations to 61 nationwide since Lawlor took over. His take-aways include: To be a good journalist you need to be curious, and that takes courage; hire slowly and carefully, because mediocrities can kill your organization; a leader’s job is to create a strategy that drives us and a culture that connects us; and you don’t need to be the smartest person in the room, you need to find smarter people and let them lead. He’s also got a great story about his favorite teacher, Brother Roy, who taught ninth grade biology, was the Dean of Discipline, and coached the high school swimming team.</p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these social platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 3 May 2022 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, Brian Lawlor)</author>
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      <itunes:title>Brian Lawlor | Let Them Lead Episode 31</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:summary>Brian Lawlor has been the president of local media for Scripps TV for ten years, which has grown from 10 stations to 61 nationwide since Lawlor took over. His take-aways include: To be a good journalist you need to be curious, and that takes courage; hire slowly and carefully, because mediocrities can kill your organization; a leader’s job is to create a strategy that drives us and a culture that connects us; and you don’t need to be the smartest person in the room, you need to find smarter people and let them lead. He’s also got a great story about his favorite teacher, Brother Roy, who taught ninth grade biology, was the Dean of Discipline, and coached the high school swimming team.

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these social platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Brian Lawlor has been the president of local media for Scripps TV for ten years, which has grown from 10 stations to 61 nationwide since Lawlor took over. His take-aways include: To be a good journalist you need to be curious, and that takes courage; hire slowly and carefully, because mediocrities can kill your organization; a leader’s job is to create a strategy that drives us and a culture that connects us; and you don’t need to be the smartest person in the room, you need to find smarter people and let them lead. He’s also got a great story about his favorite teacher, Brother Roy, who taught ninth grade biology, was the Dean of Discipline, and coached the high school swimming team.

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these social platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Ron Alvesteffer | Let Them Lead Episode 30</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>By his own admission, Ron Alvesteffer is no computer whiz, but after he took over ServiceExpress, which provides data center solutions, in 1998, he transformed it from a $3 million company to a $300 million company. What he’s learned: Don’t make the mistake of just hiring anyone; They don’t care how much you know until they know how much you care; your job as a leader is to remove obstacles and provide resources; Don’t try to protect your people from bad news. They can handle it, and will respond better. He’s got some great stories, too!</p><p><a href="https://serviceexpress.com/">https://serviceexpress.com/</a></p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these social platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2022 11:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, Ron Alvesteffer)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By his own admission, Ron Alvesteffer is no computer whiz, but after he took over ServiceExpress, which provides data center solutions, in 1998, he transformed it from a $3 million company to a $300 million company. What he’s learned: Don’t make the mistake of just hiring anyone; They don’t care how much you know until they know how much you care; your job as a leader is to remove obstacles and provide resources; Don’t try to protect your people from bad news. They can handle it, and will respond better. He’s got some great stories, too!</p><p><a href="https://serviceexpress.com/">https://serviceexpress.com/</a></p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these social platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Ron Alvesteffer | Let Them Lead Episode 30</itunes:title>
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https://serviceexpress.com/

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these social platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>By his own admission, Ron Alvesteffer is no computer whiz, but after he took over ServiceExpress, which provides data center solutions, in 1998, he transformed it from a $3 million company to a $300 million company. What he’s learned: Don’t make the mistake of just hiring anyone; They don’t care how much you know until they know how much you care; your job as a leader is to remove obstacles and provide resources; Don’t try to protect your people from bad news. They can handle it, and will respond better. He’s got some great stories, too!

https://serviceexpress.com/

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these social platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>PBS Author Talk Interview | Let them Lead Episode 29</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>A fun and lively 25-minute conversation with Fred Nahhat, Senior Vice President of Detroit PBS and a frequent host of PBS Books “Author Talk.” Here we discuss LET THEM LEAD: Unexpected Lessons in Leadership from America’s Worst High School Hockey Team. It’s one of the best conversations I’ve had on the book, because Fred was so well prepared and asked such good questions. Aside: Room Rater watched this episode and gave my office an 8/10, saying something like, “Not bad for an author.” Trust me, I know what they meant – and I won’t ask for more! </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these social platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2022 13:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, PBS Author Talk, Fred Nahhat)</author>
      <link>https://let-them-lead.simplecast.com/episodes/pbs-author-talk-interview-let-them-lead-episode-29-jT9tOte_</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fun and lively 25-minute conversation with Fred Nahhat, Senior Vice President of Detroit PBS and a frequent host of PBS Books “Author Talk.” Here we discuss LET THEM LEAD: Unexpected Lessons in Leadership from America’s Worst High School Hockey Team. It’s one of the best conversations I’ve had on the book, because Fred was so well prepared and asked such good questions. Aside: Room Rater watched this episode and gave my office an 8/10, saying something like, “Not bad for an author.” Trust me, I know what they meant – and I won’t ask for more! </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these social platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
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      <title>Dr. Steve Papadopoulos | Let Them Lead Episode 28</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Steve Papadopoulos and his family moved constantly when he was a kid while his dad, a Greek immigrant, pursued his career in the oil business. He became a neurosurgeon – this really is brain surgery – developing an incredibly strong, quiet confidence in the process – just want you need to establish a 99-percent success rate. Papadopoulos then patented dozens of medical instruments, and became the Chief Medical Officer of the Barrow Neurologic Institute in Phoenix, which performs more brain surgeries than any facility in the country. As both a practitioner and a leader, Papadopoulos learned your job as a leader is to remove obstacles preventing your people from realizing their vision of success; indisputable integrity is non-negotiable; and you must demand 100-percent commitment. You cannot make it easier for them. It has to be earned.</p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these social platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2022 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, Dr. Steve Papadopoulos)</author>
      <link>https://let-them-lead.simplecast.com/episodes/dr-steve-papadopoulos-let-them-lead-episode-28-GcbP5iT6</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Papadopoulos and his family moved constantly when he was a kid while his dad, a Greek immigrant, pursued his career in the oil business. He became a neurosurgeon – this really is brain surgery – developing an incredibly strong, quiet confidence in the process – just want you need to establish a 99-percent success rate. Papadopoulos then patented dozens of medical instruments, and became the Chief Medical Officer of the Barrow Neurologic Institute in Phoenix, which performs more brain surgeries than any facility in the country. As both a practitioner and a leader, Papadopoulos learned your job as a leader is to remove obstacles preventing your people from realizing their vision of success; indisputable integrity is non-negotiable; and you must demand 100-percent commitment. You cannot make it easier for them. It has to be earned.</p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these social platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
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For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these social platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
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For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these social platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Henry &amp; Beltran | Let them Lead Episode 27</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>If you read LET THEM LEAD: Unexpected Lessons in Leadership from America’s Worst High School Hockey Team, you know two of the stars of the book are my first captain, Mike Henry, and one of our best goalies, Steve Beltran. Today Henry is the General Manager of USA Hockey Arena and Director of Compuware Hockey in Plymouth, and Beltran is a stand-out eighth-grade social studies teacher at Arthurs Middle School in Trenton. Here they describe their experience on the team, and the lessons they’ve taken with them, including: Keep it simple; focus on behaviors, not results. Henry tells his people, “Work hard, support your teammates, and have fun when you’re done.” Beltran tells his students “Respect yourself, and respect others.” Needless to say, I’m extremely proud of these two, and you can hear it in our conversation.</p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these social platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 8 Apr 2022 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, Mike Henry, Steve Beltran)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you read LET THEM LEAD: Unexpected Lessons in Leadership from America’s Worst High School Hockey Team, you know two of the stars of the book are my first captain, Mike Henry, and one of our best goalies, Steve Beltran. Today Henry is the General Manager of USA Hockey Arena and Director of Compuware Hockey in Plymouth, and Beltran is a stand-out eighth-grade social studies teacher at Arthurs Middle School in Trenton. Here they describe their experience on the team, and the lessons they’ve taken with them, including: Keep it simple; focus on behaviors, not results. Henry tells his people, “Work hard, support your teammates, and have fun when you’re done.” Beltran tells his students “Respect yourself, and respect others.” Needless to say, I’m extremely proud of these two, and you can hear it in our conversation.</p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these social platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Henry &amp; Beltran | Let them Lead Episode 27</itunes:title>
      <itunes:author>John U Bacon, Mike Henry, Steve Beltran</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:duration>01:00:02</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>If you read LET THEM LEAD: Unexpected Lessons in Leadership from America’s Worst High School Hockey Team, you know two of the stars of the book are my first captain, Mike Henry, and one of our best goalies, Steve Beltran. Today Henry is the General Manager of USA Hockey Arena and Director of Compuware Hockey in Plymouth, and Beltran is a stand-out eighth-grade social studies teacher at Arthurs Middle School in Trenton. Here they describe their experience on the team, and the lessons they’ve taken with them, including: Keep it simple; focus on behaviors, not results. Henry tells his people, “Work hard, support your teammates, and have fun when you’re done.” Beltran tells his students “Respect yourself, and respect others.” Needless to say, I’m extremely proud of these two, and you can hear it in our conversation.

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com

You can connect with John via these social platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>If you read LET THEM LEAD: Unexpected Lessons in Leadership from America’s Worst High School Hockey Team, you know two of the stars of the book are my first captain, Mike Henry, and one of our best goalies, Steve Beltran. Today Henry is the General Manager of USA Hockey Arena and Director of Compuware Hockey in Plymouth, and Beltran is a stand-out eighth-grade social studies teacher at Arthurs Middle School in Trenton. Here they describe their experience on the team, and the lessons they’ve taken with them, including: Keep it simple; focus on behaviors, not results. Henry tells his people, “Work hard, support your teammates, and have fun when you’re done.” Beltran tells his students “Respect yourself, and respect others.” Needless to say, I’m extremely proud of these two, and you can hear it in our conversation.

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com

You can connect with John via these social platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Vic Strecher | Let Them Lead Episode 26</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Vic Strecher is a professor of public health at the University of Michigan, where he started Health Media in 1998, a pioneering, web-based, “digital health coach.” His life changed when his younger daughter, Julia, contracted chicken pox at one, and required two hear transplants. When she passed away at 19, Strecher did some serious soul-searching, and emerged with a new focus: Living on Purpose. He has explored the power of purposeful living in his books, and his new company, Kumanu. His take-aways include: 1-This is not practice. Your life is happening now. You could die today. A sense of urgency helps. 2-</p><p>Become your own therapist, consider what you want and what you’re missing. 3-What is your purpose? Who relies on you? What causes do you care about? Nietczche: if you know your ‘Why,’ you can handle any ‘How.’</p><p><br /> </p><p><a href="mailto:strecher@umich.edu">strecher@umich.edu</a></p><p><a href="mailto:vic.strecher@kumanu.com">vic.strecher@kumanu.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.kumanu.com">http://www.kumanu.com</a></p><p><a href="https://www.vicstrecher.com/">https://www.vicstrecher.com/</a></p><p>Free course: <a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/finding-purpose-and-meaning-in-life">https://www.coursera.org/learn/finding-purpose-and-meaning-in-life</a></p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these social platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2022 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, Vic Strecher)</author>
      <link>https://let-them-lead.simplecast.com/episodes/vic-strecher-let-them-lead-episode-26-krZO6A6V</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vic Strecher is a professor of public health at the University of Michigan, where he started Health Media in 1998, a pioneering, web-based, “digital health coach.” His life changed when his younger daughter, Julia, contracted chicken pox at one, and required two hear transplants. When she passed away at 19, Strecher did some serious soul-searching, and emerged with a new focus: Living on Purpose. He has explored the power of purposeful living in his books, and his new company, Kumanu. His take-aways include: 1-This is not practice. Your life is happening now. You could die today. A sense of urgency helps. 2-</p><p>Become your own therapist, consider what you want and what you’re missing. 3-What is your purpose? Who relies on you? What causes do you care about? Nietczche: if you know your ‘Why,’ you can handle any ‘How.’</p><p><br /> </p><p><a href="mailto:strecher@umich.edu">strecher@umich.edu</a></p><p><a href="mailto:vic.strecher@kumanu.com">vic.strecher@kumanu.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.kumanu.com">http://www.kumanu.com</a></p><p><a href="https://www.vicstrecher.com/">https://www.vicstrecher.com/</a></p><p>Free course: <a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/finding-purpose-and-meaning-in-life">https://www.coursera.org/learn/finding-purpose-and-meaning-in-life</a></p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these social platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Vic Strecher | Let Them Lead Episode 26</itunes:title>
      <itunes:author>John U Bacon, Vic Strecher</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:duration>01:02:39</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>Vic Strecher is a professor of public health at the University of Michigan, where he started Health Media in 1998, a pioneering, web-based, “digital health coach.” His life changed when his younger daughter, Julia, contracted chicken pox at one, and required two hear transplants. When she passed away at 19, Strecher did some serious soul-searching, and emerged with a new focus: Living on Purpose. He has explored the power of purposeful living in his books, and his new company, Kumanu. His take-aways include: 1-This is not practice. Your life is happening now. You could die today. A sense of urgency helps. 2-

Become your own therapist, consider what you want and what you’re missing. 3-What is your purpose? Who relies on you? What causes do you care about? Nietczche: if you know your ‘Why,’ you can handle any ‘How.’


Links:
strecher@umich.edu
vic.strecher@kumanu.com
http://www.kumanu.com
https://www.vicstrecher.com/
Free course: https://www.coursera.org/learn/finding-purpose-and-meaning-in-life

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com

You can connect with John via these social platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Vic Strecher is a professor of public health at the University of Michigan, where he started Health Media in 1998, a pioneering, web-based, “digital health coach.” His life changed when his younger daughter, Julia, contracted chicken pox at one, and required two hear transplants. When she passed away at 19, Strecher did some serious soul-searching, and emerged with a new focus: Living on Purpose. He has explored the power of purposeful living in his books, and his new company, Kumanu. His take-aways include: 1-This is not practice. Your life is happening now. You could die today. A sense of urgency helps. 2-

Become your own therapist, consider what you want and what you’re missing. 3-What is your purpose? Who relies on you? What causes do you care about? Nietczche: if you know your ‘Why,’ you can handle any ‘How.’


Links:
strecher@umich.edu
vic.strecher@kumanu.com
http://www.kumanu.com
https://www.vicstrecher.com/
Free course: https://www.coursera.org/learn/finding-purpose-and-meaning-in-life

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com

You can connect with John via these social platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:keywords>life on purpose, ford, hope, john u bacon, let them lead, purpose, ceo, coaching, leadership, mentor, hockey, mentorship, lead, coach</itunes:keywords>
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      <title>Rosalie Tocco-Bradley | Let Them Lead Episode 25</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Rosalie Tocco-Bradley Is the Chief Clinical Officer of Trinity Health Michigan, which includes eight hospitals, ten outpatient surgical centers and nine emergency departments. For the past two years, she has also served as the COVID Response Incident Commander for all of Trinity Health Michigan – a job you’d wish on no one. Growing up she would watch through the fence while her brothers played baseball, and know that she should be out there, too. To overcome the stigma against women in a male-dominated field, she learned to define herself; When your bosses ask for volunteers, raise your hand”; no role is too big or small for you not to do your best; leadership is not a popularity contest; and have a full life outside of your work. You not only live a better life, it actually helps you do your work better, too.</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2022 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, Rosalie Tocco-Bradley)</author>
      <link>https://let-them-lead.simplecast.com/episodes/rosalie-tocco-bradley-let-them-lead-episode-25-hvnDDOlW</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rosalie Tocco-Bradley Is the Chief Clinical Officer of Trinity Health Michigan, which includes eight hospitals, ten outpatient surgical centers and nine emergency departments. For the past two years, she has also served as the COVID Response Incident Commander for all of Trinity Health Michigan – a job you’d wish on no one. Growing up she would watch through the fence while her brothers played baseball, and know that she should be out there, too. To overcome the stigma against women in a male-dominated field, she learned to define herself; When your bosses ask for volunteers, raise your hand”; no role is too big or small for you not to do your best; leadership is not a popularity contest; and have a full life outside of your work. You not only live a better life, it actually helps you do your work better, too.</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Rosalie Tocco-Bradley | Let Them Lead Episode 25</itunes:title>
      <itunes:author>John U Bacon, Rosalie Tocco-Bradley</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Rosalie Tocco-Bradley Is the Chief Clinical Officer of Trinity Health Michigan, which includes eight hospitals, ten outpatient surgical centers and nine emergency departments. For the past two years, she has also served as the COVID Response Incident Commander for all of Trinity Health Michigan – a job you’d wish on no one. Growing up she would watch through the fence while her brothers played baseball, and know that she should be out there, too. To overcome the stigma against women in a male-dominated field, she learned to define herself; When your bosses ask for volunteers, raise your hand”; no role is too big or small for you not to do your best; leadership is not a popularity contest; and have a full life outside of your work. You not only live a better life, it actually helps you do your work better, too.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Rosalie Tocco-Bradley Is the Chief Clinical Officer of Trinity Health Michigan, which includes eight hospitals, ten outpatient surgical centers and nine emergency departments. For the past two years, she has also served as the COVID Response Incident Commander for all of Trinity Health Michigan – a job you’d wish on no one. Growing up she would watch through the fence while her brothers played baseball, and know that she should be out there, too. To overcome the stigma against women in a male-dominated field, she learned to define herself; When your bosses ask for volunteers, raise your hand”; no role is too big or small for you not to do your best; leadership is not a popularity contest; and have a full life outside of your work. You not only live a better life, it actually helps you do your work better, too.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:keywords>ford, john u bacon, let them lead, ceo, coaching, leadership, mentor, hockey, mentorship, lead, coach</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <itunes:episode>25</itunes:episode>
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      <title>Tom Grilk | Let Them Lead Episode 24</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>After 11 very eventful years as the Executive Director of the Boston Athletic Association, which conducts the Boston Marathon, Tom Grilk will step down after this year’s race. Years ago he told his wife that the stress of being an attorney was going to cause him to start drinking or start running. He picked running, which led to sub-3:00 marathons and his current post. He led the Marathon, the world’s greatest race, through extremes of hot and cold, and the bombing of 2013.  His take-aways include: You can’t afford <i>not </i>to exercise; we need to be together, and we need to help others – for our own sake; if you’re people are truly prepared, they’re ready to make decisions under pressure on the spot, and adapt to changing conditions; and finally, from General Patton: Don’t tell your people how to get there, just tell them where you need to go. They’ll find more ingenious ways to do it than you ever imagined. </p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2022 12:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John Bacon, John U Bacon, Tom Grilk)</author>
      <link>https://letthemleadbybacon.com/episode-024-tom-grilk/</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After 11 very eventful years as the Executive Director of the Boston Athletic Association, which conducts the Boston Marathon, Tom Grilk will step down after this year’s race. Years ago he told his wife that the stress of being an attorney was going to cause him to start drinking or start running. He picked running, which led to sub-3:00 marathons and his current post. He led the Marathon, the world’s greatest race, through extremes of hot and cold, and the bombing of 2013.  His take-aways include: You can’t afford <i>not </i>to exercise; we need to be together, and we need to help others – for our own sake; if you’re people are truly prepared, they’re ready to make decisions under pressure on the spot, and adapt to changing conditions; and finally, from General Patton: Don’t tell your people how to get there, just tell them where you need to go. They’ll find more ingenious ways to do it than you ever imagined. </p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
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      <itunes:summary>After 11 very eventful years as the Executive Director of the Boston Athletic Association, which conducts the Boston Marathon, Tom Grilk will step down after this year’s race. Years ago he told his wife that the stress of being an attorney was going to cause him to start drinking or start running. He picked running, which led to sub-3:00 marathons and his current post. He led the Marathon, the world’s greatest race, through extremes of hot and cold, and the bombing of 2013.  His take-aways include: You can’t afford not to exercise; we need to be together, and we need to help others – for our own sake; if you’re people are truly prepared, they’re ready to make decisions under pressure on the spot, and adapt to changing conditions; and finally, from General Patton: Don’t tell your people how to get there, just tell them where you need to go. They’ll find more ingenious ways to do it than you ever imagined. </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>After 11 very eventful years as the Executive Director of the Boston Athletic Association, which conducts the Boston Marathon, Tom Grilk will step down after this year’s race. Years ago he told his wife that the stress of being an attorney was going to cause him to start drinking or start running. He picked running, which led to sub-3:00 marathons and his current post. He led the Marathon, the world’s greatest race, through extremes of hot and cold, and the bombing of 2013.  His take-aways include: You can’t afford not to exercise; we need to be together, and we need to help others – for our own sake; if you’re people are truly prepared, they’re ready to make decisions under pressure on the spot, and adapt to changing conditions; and finally, from General Patton: Don’t tell your people how to get there, just tell them where you need to go. They’ll find more ingenious ways to do it than you ever imagined. </itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Casey Cowell | Let Them Lead Episode 23</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Casey Cowell, son of a Detroit plumber, played goalie with the sons of Gordie Howe, and won a national title. He took that confidence with him to the University of Chicago, and at 24, turned $200 into a $2.5 billion company called U.S. Robotics, for many years the nation’s biggest designer and manufacturer of modems. Some pro tips: A strong team of dedicated B-players will beat an uncommitted team of All-Stars every time; If you can’t be good, be enthusiastic! Enthusiasm attracts the right people, and self-confidence leads them; You can’t lead out of fear, so when in doubt, act! You cannot inch your way to a revolution.</p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 8 Mar 2022 12:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John Bacon, Casey Cowell)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Casey Cowell, son of a Detroit plumber, played goalie with the sons of Gordie Howe, and won a national title. He took that confidence with him to the University of Chicago, and at 24, turned $200 into a $2.5 billion company called U.S. Robotics, for many years the nation’s biggest designer and manufacturer of modems. Some pro tips: A strong team of dedicated B-players will beat an uncommitted team of All-Stars every time; If you can’t be good, be enthusiastic! Enthusiasm attracts the right people, and self-confidence leads them; You can’t lead out of fear, so when in doubt, act! You cannot inch your way to a revolution.</p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Casey Cowell | Let Them Lead Episode 23</itunes:title>
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For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Casey Cowell, son of a Detroit plumber, played goalie with the sons of Gordie Howe, and won a national title. He took that confidence with him to the University of Chicago, and at 24, turned $200 into a $2.5 billion company called U.S. Robotics, for many years the nation’s biggest designer and manufacturer of modems. Some pro tips: A strong team of dedicated B-players will beat an uncommitted team of All-Stars every time; If you can’t be good, be enthusiastic! Enthusiasm attracts the right people, and self-confidence leads them; You can’t lead out of fear, so when in doubt, act! You cannot inch your way to a revolution.

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Ken Fischer | Let Them Lead Episode 22</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Longtime president of Michigan’s famed University Musical Society, Ken Fischer explains how this small town attracts world-class talent like Leonard Bernstein, Yo-Yo Ma, Wynton Marsalis, and the Royal Shakespeare Company. But the best insight is Fischer’s guiding principle: "Everybody In, Nobody Out.” His take-aways include: A ‘no’ is the first step to a ‘yes’!; You have to touch their heart; Get out of the tower, and into the community. You can’t lead people you don’t know.</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 1 Mar 2022 11:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, Ken Fischer)</author>
      <link>https://letthemleadbybacon.com/episode-022-ken-fischer/</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Longtime president of Michigan’s famed University Musical Society, Ken Fischer explains how this small town attracts world-class talent like Leonard Bernstein, Yo-Yo Ma, Wynton Marsalis, and the Royal Shakespeare Company. But the best insight is Fischer’s guiding principle: "Everybody In, Nobody Out.” His take-aways include: A ‘no’ is the first step to a ‘yes’!; You have to touch their heart; Get out of the tower, and into the community. You can’t lead people you don’t know.</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Ken Fischer | Let Them Lead Episode 22</itunes:title>
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For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com

You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
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For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com

You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Tom Miller | Let Them Lead Episode 21</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Tom Miller turned down Penn’s prestigious Wharton School of Business to join his high school girlfriend at the University of Michigan. His father objected, but he’s been married to Bonnie for 52 years, and has a record-tying five degrees from U-M, including an honorary diploma for giving a graduation speech in 2003. He entered foreign service on a lark, and ended up being named the U.S. Ambassador to Greece over major donors – right after 9/11, and right before the 2004 Athens Olympics. Some lessons: Lead from the front, not the back; When things go wrong, be the first to start cleaning up the mess; Gather your team at a round table, not a rectangular one.</p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2022 11:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, Tom Miller)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Miller turned down Penn’s prestigious Wharton School of Business to join his high school girlfriend at the University of Michigan. His father objected, but he’s been married to Bonnie for 52 years, and has a record-tying five degrees from U-M, including an honorary diploma for giving a graduation speech in 2003. He entered foreign service on a lark, and ended up being named the U.S. Ambassador to Greece over major donors – right after 9/11, and right before the 2004 Athens Olympics. Some lessons: Lead from the front, not the back; When things go wrong, be the first to start cleaning up the mess; Gather your team at a round table, not a rectangular one.</p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
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For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
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For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
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<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2022 11:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, Jordan Wertlieb)</author>
      <link>https://letthemleadbybacon.com/episode-020-jordan-wertlieb/</link>
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<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Jordan Wertlieb | Let Them Lead Episode 20</itunes:title>
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This weeks 3 take aways:
- Your education might not be in the classroom
- Don’t be afraid to ask for help
- Every role can teach you if you’re humble enough to learn.

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon
For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Hearst Television named Jordan Wertlieb president in 2013, leading 33 stations in 26 U.S. markets, plus digital properties, 2 radio stations, and more than 70 programming streams with multicast channels. He caught the TV bug in high school, and along the way learned a few things: the heart of your education might not be in the classroom; don’t be afraid to ask for help; and every role has lessons to teach you if you’re humble enough to learn them.

This weeks 3 take aways:
- Your education might not be in the classroom
- Don’t be afraid to ask for help
- Every role can teach you if you’re humble enough to learn.

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon
For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Jim Barahal | Let Them Lead Episode 19</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Jim Barahal’s first career would have been enough. After graduating from medical school he moved to Hawaii, started making house calls – unheard of in 1982 – and built a thriving practice, “Doctors on Call,” with 19 clinics and 60,000 patients a year, then sold most of it to Hawaii Pacific Health. He then took over the Honolulu Marathon in 1987, and built it into the world’s biggest by 1995. Take-aways: Consistency beats talent (the marathoner’s credo!); the business you start in is often not the business you end up in; if you recognize the hidden niche where others don't can be a great opportunity. Learning how to lead is a separate skill to learn.</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 8 Feb 2022 12:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, John Bacon)</author>
      <link>https://let-them-lead.simplecast.com/episodes/jim-barahal-let-them-lead-episode-19-NxnSTqpR</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim Barahal’s first career would have been enough. After graduating from medical school he moved to Hawaii, started making house calls – unheard of in 1982 – and built a thriving practice, “Doctors on Call,” with 19 clinics and 60,000 patients a year, then sold most of it to Hawaii Pacific Health. He then took over the Honolulu Marathon in 1987, and built it into the world’s biggest by 1995. Take-aways: Consistency beats talent (the marathoner’s credo!); the business you start in is often not the business you end up in; if you recognize the hidden niche where others don't can be a great opportunity. Learning how to lead is a separate skill to learn.</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Jim Barahal | Let Them Lead Episode 19</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:summary>Jim Barahal’s first career would have been enough. After graduating from medical school he moved to Hawaii, started making house calls – unheard of in 1982 – and built a thriving practice, “Doctors on Call,” with 19 clinics and 60,000 patients a year, then sold most of it to Hawaii Pacific Health. He then took over the Honolulu Marathon in 1987, and built it into the world’s biggest by 1995. Take-aways: Consistency beats talent (the marathoner’s credo!); the business you start in is often not the business you end up in; if you recognize the hidden niche where others don&apos;t can be a great opportunity. Learning how to lead is a separate skill to learn.

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Jim Barahal’s first career would have been enough. After graduating from medical school he moved to Hawaii, started making house calls – unheard of in 1982 – and built a thriving practice, “Doctors on Call,” with 19 clinics and 60,000 patients a year, then sold most of it to Hawaii Pacific Health. He then took over the Honolulu Marathon in 1987, and built it into the world’s biggest by 1995. Take-aways: Consistency beats talent (the marathoner’s credo!); the business you start in is often not the business you end up in; if you recognize the hidden niche where others don&apos;t can be a great opportunity. Learning how to lead is a separate skill to learn.

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Scott DeRue | Let them Lead Episode 18</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Scott DeRue became the dean of Michigan’s Ross School of Business at the ripe age of 38, and pumped up revenue, research, and rankings. He then became the President of Equinox, the leading high-end fitness chain with 105 clubs, and 10,000 employees, and somehow managed to climb Mt. Everest and other peaks on the side. His quote in LET THEM LEAD: “Lead as though you have no power, because you have no power.” Also, “Never tell anyone what they can’t do,” and “Run to the fire, not from it.”</p><p><a href="http://www.equinox.com" target="_blank">http://www.equinox.com</a></p><p><br />For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 1 Feb 2022 13:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John Bacon, John U Bacon, Scott DeRue)</author>
      <link>https://let-them-lead.simplecast.com/episodes/scott-derue-let-them-lead-episode-18-rrenVilj</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott DeRue became the dean of Michigan’s Ross School of Business at the ripe age of 38, and pumped up revenue, research, and rankings. He then became the President of Equinox, the leading high-end fitness chain with 105 clubs, and 10,000 employees, and somehow managed to climb Mt. Everest and other peaks on the side. His quote in LET THEM LEAD: “Lead as though you have no power, because you have no power.” Also, “Never tell anyone what they can’t do,” and “Run to the fire, not from it.”</p><p><a href="http://www.equinox.com" target="_blank">http://www.equinox.com</a></p><p><br />For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Scott DeRue | Let them Lead Episode 18</itunes:title>
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HTTP://www.equinox.com

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Scott DeRue became the dean of Michigan’s Ross School of Business at the ripe age of 38, and pumped up revenue, research, and rankings. He then became the President of Equinox, the leading high-end fitness chain with 105 clubs, and 10,000 employees, and somehow managed to climb Mt. Everest and other peaks on the side. His quote in LET THEM LEAD: “Lead as though you have no power, because you have no power.” Also, “Never tell anyone what they can’t do,” and “Run to the fire, not from it.” 
HTTP://www.equinox.com

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Our guest today is Bill Martin, who has worn more leadership hats than most. After being told by a high school teacher that he "would never go anywhere," Martin set out to prove him wrong, and did so, in spades! He started his business career while getting his MBA at Michigan with a $500 emergency student loan, and turned that into an $18,000 profit. First Martin Corporation, a property development and management company, is now second only to the University of Michigan itself as the biggest land-owner in Washtenaw County. On the side, he also started Bank of Ann Arbor, which now has almost three dozen branches, and Casey's Tavern, a popular spot a block from his office. Somehow, he also managed to lead the U-M athletic department for a decade, transforming its facilities, morale, and economic health, and serve as president of the U.S.O.C., turning around that organization, too. He's done it all based on a few simple, if not easy, principles. Find out how on Let Them Lead.</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2022 11:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, Bill Martin)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our guest today is Bill Martin, who has worn more leadership hats than most. After being told by a high school teacher that he "would never go anywhere," Martin set out to prove him wrong, and did so, in spades! He started his business career while getting his MBA at Michigan with a $500 emergency student loan, and turned that into an $18,000 profit. First Martin Corporation, a property development and management company, is now second only to the University of Michigan itself as the biggest land-owner in Washtenaw County. On the side, he also started Bank of Ann Arbor, which now has almost three dozen branches, and Casey's Tavern, a popular spot a block from his office. Somehow, he also managed to lead the U-M athletic department for a decade, transforming its facilities, morale, and economic health, and serve as president of the U.S.O.C., turning around that organization, too. He's done it all based on a few simple, if not easy, principles. Find out how on Let Them Lead.</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
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      <itunes:title>Bill Martin | Let Them Lead Episode 17</itunes:title>
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      <title>2021 Review | Let Them Lead Episode 16</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week I take a few minutes to look back at the Let Them Lead Podcast's first year: the idea behind the podcast, some of the highlights our 15 great guests have given us, including their memorable take-aways, and what we have to look forward to in 2022. I've greatly enjoyed getting to talk with some of the best and brightest leaders in business, sports, higher education, food service, high-tech, and more. You might discover you missed a great episode, and want to go back and check it out. Easy to do! And we hope you're intrigued by our list of upcoming guests, and make sure you stay in touch with Let Them Lead, and spread the word. Make sure to <strong>subscribe</strong> to the podcast so you don't miss a single episode.</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2022 12:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week I take a few minutes to look back at the Let Them Lead Podcast's first year: the idea behind the podcast, some of the highlights our 15 great guests have given us, including their memorable take-aways, and what we have to look forward to in 2022. I've greatly enjoyed getting to talk with some of the best and brightest leaders in business, sports, higher education, food service, high-tech, and more. You might discover you missed a great episode, and want to go back and check it out. Easy to do! And we hope you're intrigued by our list of upcoming guests, and make sure you stay in touch with Let Them Lead, and spread the word. Make sure to <strong>subscribe</strong> to the podcast so you don't miss a single episode.</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>2021 Review | Let Them Lead Episode 16</itunes:title>
      <itunes:author>John U Bacon</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>This week I take a few minutes to look back at the Let Them Lead Podcast&apos;s first year: the idea behind the podcast, some of the highlights our 15 great guests have given us, including their memorable take-aways, and what we have to look forward to in 2022. I&apos;ve greatly enjoyed getting to talk with some of the best and brightest leaders in business, sports, higher education, food service, high-tech, and more. You might discover you missed a great episode, and want to go back and check it out. Easy to do! And we hope you&apos;re intrigued by our list of upcoming guests, and make sure you stay in touch with Let Them Lead, and spread the word. Make sure to subscribe to the podcast so you don&apos;t miss a single episode.
For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week I take a few minutes to look back at the Let Them Lead Podcast&apos;s first year: the idea behind the podcast, some of the highlights our 15 great guests have given us, including their memorable take-aways, and what we have to look forward to in 2022. I&apos;ve greatly enjoyed getting to talk with some of the best and brightest leaders in business, sports, higher education, food service, high-tech, and more. You might discover you missed a great episode, and want to go back and check it out. Easy to do! And we hope you&apos;re intrigued by our list of upcoming guests, and make sure you stay in touch with Let Them Lead, and spread the word. Make sure to subscribe to the podcast so you don&apos;t miss a single episode.
For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Howdy and Howard Holmes| Let Them Lead Episode 15</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Started in 1887 in Chelsea, Michigan, just outside of Ann Arbor, Chelsea Milling was pretty run-of-the-mill until the wife of the second generation, Mabel Holmes, figured out how to create a baking mix, called Jiffy Mixes, “so simple, even a man can do it!”Fourth generation CEO Howdy Holmes won two state hockey titles for Ann Arbor High before starting his own Indy Car team, becoming rookie of the year at the 1979 Indy 500.</p><p>In 1987 Holmes returned to transform the family business. Today, JIFFY is the market share leader in retail prepared baking mixes. The company never advertises, and rarely relies on outside help, creating a completely vertical company from making the boxes to trucking them around the country. Howdy’s son Howard is now the company Vice-President and COO.</p><p>We talk to both of them about the unique challenges of running a five-generation family business. Some takeaways: Don’t run your family with your head or your business with your heart, or you soon won’t have either. Thinking long-term will beat short-term every time. And hire for character over credentials.</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 7 Dec 2021 11:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, Howdy Holmes, Howard Holmes)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Started in 1887 in Chelsea, Michigan, just outside of Ann Arbor, Chelsea Milling was pretty run-of-the-mill until the wife of the second generation, Mabel Holmes, figured out how to create a baking mix, called Jiffy Mixes, “so simple, even a man can do it!”Fourth generation CEO Howdy Holmes won two state hockey titles for Ann Arbor High before starting his own Indy Car team, becoming rookie of the year at the 1979 Indy 500.</p><p>In 1987 Holmes returned to transform the family business. Today, JIFFY is the market share leader in retail prepared baking mixes. The company never advertises, and rarely relies on outside help, creating a completely vertical company from making the boxes to trucking them around the country. Howdy’s son Howard is now the company Vice-President and COO.</p><p>We talk to both of them about the unique challenges of running a five-generation family business. Some takeaways: Don’t run your family with your head or your business with your heart, or you soon won’t have either. Thinking long-term will beat short-term every time. And hire for character over credentials.</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Howdy and Howard Holmes| Let Them Lead Episode 15</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:summary>Started in 1887 in Chelsea, Michigan, just outside of Ann Arbor, Chelsea Milling was pretty run-of-the-mill until the wife of the second generation, Mabel Holmes, figured out how to create a baking mix, called Jiffy Mixes, “so simple, even a man can do it!”Fourth generation CEO Howdy Holmes won two state hockey titles for Ann Arbor High before starting his own Indy Car team, becoming rookie of the year at the 1979 Indy 500. 

In 1987 Holmes returned to transform the family business. Today, JIFFY is the market share leader in retail prepared baking mixes. The company never advertises, and rarely relies on outside help, creating a completely vertical company from making the boxes to trucking them around the country. Howdy’s son Howard is now the company Vice-President and COO. 

We talk to both of them about the unique challenges of running a five-generation family business. Some takeaways: Don’t run your family with your head or your business with your heart, or you soon won’t have either. Thinking long-term will beat short-term every time. And hire for character over credentials.

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Started in 1887 in Chelsea, Michigan, just outside of Ann Arbor, Chelsea Milling was pretty run-of-the-mill until the wife of the second generation, Mabel Holmes, figured out how to create a baking mix, called Jiffy Mixes, “so simple, even a man can do it!”Fourth generation CEO Howdy Holmes won two state hockey titles for Ann Arbor High before starting his own Indy Car team, becoming rookie of the year at the 1979 Indy 500. 

In 1987 Holmes returned to transform the family business. Today, JIFFY is the market share leader in retail prepared baking mixes. The company never advertises, and rarely relies on outside help, creating a completely vertical company from making the boxes to trucking them around the country. Howdy’s son Howard is now the company Vice-President and COO. 

We talk to both of them about the unique challenges of running a five-generation family business. Some takeaways: Don’t run your family with your head or your business with your heart, or you soon won’t have either. Thinking long-term will beat short-term every time. And hire for character over credentials.

For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:
http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com
http://www.johnubacon.com
You can connect with John via these platforms:
https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Bev Plocki | Let Them Lead Episode 14</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Bev Plocki, born and raised in Pennsylvania steel country, earned All-American status in gymnastics at Alabama and West Virginia, before becoming Michigan’s gymnastic coach at the ripe age of 23. The team had gone 0-13 in the Big Ten the previous year, shared facilities with the Michigan Marching Band and IM basketball games, and hadn’t worked out the entire off-season.</p><p>Plocki got to work changing attitudes, habits, and the culture. Her teams have since won 24 Big Ten titles – the most of any coach in any sport – while she has been named Big Ten Coach of the Year 11 times, and NCAA coach of the year twice.</p><p>The highlight, however, came during what should have been Michigan’s most trying year: 2020-21, the Covid Season. With the team shut down twice for two-week spells, the athletes worked out at home, by zoom, and in four shifts of three each day. Instead of complaining about what they didn’t have, they decided to be grateful for what they did – and went on to win the NCAA title, the first for any Big Ten school.</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2021 11:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, Bev Plocki)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bev Plocki, born and raised in Pennsylvania steel country, earned All-American status in gymnastics at Alabama and West Virginia, before becoming Michigan’s gymnastic coach at the ripe age of 23. The team had gone 0-13 in the Big Ten the previous year, shared facilities with the Michigan Marching Band and IM basketball games, and hadn’t worked out the entire off-season.</p><p>Plocki got to work changing attitudes, habits, and the culture. Her teams have since won 24 Big Ten titles – the most of any coach in any sport – while she has been named Big Ten Coach of the Year 11 times, and NCAA coach of the year twice.</p><p>The highlight, however, came during what should have been Michigan’s most trying year: 2020-21, the Covid Season. With the team shut down twice for two-week spells, the athletes worked out at home, by zoom, and in four shifts of three each day. Instead of complaining about what they didn’t have, they decided to be grateful for what they did – and went on to win the NCAA title, the first for any Big Ten school.</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>Bev Plocki, born and raised in Pennsylvania steel country, earned All-American status in gymnastics at Alabama and West Virginia, before becoming Michigan’s gymnastic coach at the ripe age of 23. The team had gone 0-13 in the Big Ten the previous year, shared facilities with the Michigan Marching Band and IM basketball games, and hadn’t worked out the entire off-season.
Plocki got to work changing attitudes, habits, and the culture. Her teams have since won 24 Big Ten titles – the most of any coach in any sport – while she has been named Big Ten Coach of the Year 11 times, and NCAA coach of the year twice.
The highlight, however, came during what should have been Michigan’s most trying year: 2020-21, the Covid Season. With the team shut down twice for two-week spells, the athletes worked out at home, by zoom, and in four shifts of three each day. Instead of complaining about what they didn’t have, they decided to be grateful for what they did – and went on to win the NCAA title, the first for any Big Ten school.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Bev Plocki, born and raised in Pennsylvania steel country, earned All-American status in gymnastics at Alabama and West Virginia, before becoming Michigan’s gymnastic coach at the ripe age of 23. The team had gone 0-13 in the Big Ten the previous year, shared facilities with the Michigan Marching Band and IM basketball games, and hadn’t worked out the entire off-season.
Plocki got to work changing attitudes, habits, and the culture. Her teams have since won 24 Big Ten titles – the most of any coach in any sport – while she has been named Big Ten Coach of the Year 11 times, and NCAA coach of the year twice.
The highlight, however, came during what should have been Michigan’s most trying year: 2020-21, the Covid Season. With the team shut down twice for two-week spells, the athletes worked out at home, by zoom, and in four shifts of three each day. Instead of complaining about what they didn’t have, they decided to be grateful for what they did – and went on to win the NCAA title, the first for any Big Ten school.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>The Next Big Idea Book Club Book Bite | Let Them Lead Episode 13</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>On this weeks episode we have a special treat. A few months ago, the people who created and run The Next Big Idea book club, Malcolm Gladwell, Susan Cain, Adam Grant, and Daniel Pink, all big names and the leadership field, nominated Let them Lead for inclusion in their fall lineup.</p><p>They asked us to record about 15 minutes of my top five book bites or big ideas from Let them Lead ,the book.</p><p>Get your own copy of Let Them Lead: Unexpected Lessons in Leadership from Americas Worst Hockey Team at <a>Http://LetThemLeadByBacon.com</a>, which has links to everything from your local bookstore, to Amazon.</p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2021 14:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On this weeks episode we have a special treat. A few months ago, the people who created and run The Next Big Idea book club, Malcolm Gladwell, Susan Cain, Adam Grant, and Daniel Pink, all big names and the leadership field, nominated Let them Lead for inclusion in their fall lineup.</p><p>They asked us to record about 15 minutes of my top five book bites or big ideas from Let them Lead ,the book.</p><p>Get your own copy of Let Them Lead: Unexpected Lessons in Leadership from Americas Worst Hockey Team at <a>Http://LetThemLeadByBacon.com</a>, which has links to everything from your local bookstore, to Amazon.</p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>The Next Big Idea Book Club Book Bite | Let Them Lead Episode 13</itunes:title>
      <itunes:author>John U Bacon</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>On this weeks episode we have a special treat. A few months ago, the people who created and run The Next Big Idea book club, Malcolm Gladwell, Susan Cain, Adam Grant, and Daniel Pink, all big names and the leadership field, nominated Let them Lead for inclusion in their fall lineup.
They asked us to record about 15 minutes of my top five book bites or big ideas from Let them Lead ,the book.
Get your own copy of Let Them Lead: Unexpected Lessons in Leadership from Americas Worst Hockey Team at Http://LetThemLeadByBacon.com, which has links to everything from your local bookstore, to Amazon.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>On this weeks episode we have a special treat. A few months ago, the people who created and run The Next Big Idea book club, Malcolm Gladwell, Susan Cain, Adam Grant, and Daniel Pink, all big names and the leadership field, nominated Let them Lead for inclusion in their fall lineup.
They asked us to record about 15 minutes of my top five book bites or big ideas from Let them Lead ,the book.
Get your own copy of Let Them Lead: Unexpected Lessons in Leadership from Americas Worst Hockey Team at Http://LetThemLeadByBacon.com, which has links to everything from your local bookstore, to Amazon.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Ron Warhurst won two NCAA titles as a member of the Western Michigan cross-country team in the 1960s. He graduated in 1966, volunteered for the Marines, then repeatedly asked to “walk point” through the Vietnamese jungle, which resulted in two Purple Hearts, before he was honorably discharged in 1970. He learned a simple lesson: “The world doesn’t stop because you’re scared.”</p><p>Three later the University of Michigan named him their varsity cross-country coach, with little experience. Warhurst’s teams won 18 Big Ten cross-country titles, his star Greg Meyer won the 1983 Boston Marathon, and many others ran in the Olympics, including several medalists. Warhurst also created a famous training regimen still called “The Michigan,” which thousands of competitive runners have used for decades.</p><p>Ronnie’s philosophy is straightforward, but difficult: 1) preparation, structure, and flexibility – a hard combination. 2) Don’t look over your shoulder because the race is in front of you. And 3) on any given day, there are people on the starting line who don’t want to be there because it’s too hot, too cold, raining, or snowing. Your job is to beat those guys.</p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2021 14:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, Ron Warhurst)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron Warhurst won two NCAA titles as a member of the Western Michigan cross-country team in the 1960s. He graduated in 1966, volunteered for the Marines, then repeatedly asked to “walk point” through the Vietnamese jungle, which resulted in two Purple Hearts, before he was honorably discharged in 1970. He learned a simple lesson: “The world doesn’t stop because you’re scared.”</p><p>Three later the University of Michigan named him their varsity cross-country coach, with little experience. Warhurst’s teams won 18 Big Ten cross-country titles, his star Greg Meyer won the 1983 Boston Marathon, and many others ran in the Olympics, including several medalists. Warhurst also created a famous training regimen still called “The Michigan,” which thousands of competitive runners have used for decades.</p><p>Ronnie’s philosophy is straightforward, but difficult: 1) preparation, structure, and flexibility – a hard combination. 2) Don’t look over your shoulder because the race is in front of you. And 3) on any given day, there are people on the starting line who don’t want to be there because it’s too hot, too cold, raining, or snowing. Your job is to beat those guys.</p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Ron Warhurst | Let Them Lead Episode 12</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:summary>Ron Warhurst won two NCAA titles as a member of the Western Michigan cross-country team in the 1960s. He graduated in 1966, volunteered for the Marines, then repeatedly asked to “walk point” through the Vietnamese jungle, which resulted in two Purple Hearts, before he was honorably discharged in 1970. He learned a simple lesson: “The world doesn’t stop because you’re scared.”

Three later the University of Michigan named him their varsity cross-country coach, with little experience. Warhurst’s teams won 18 Big Ten cross-country titles, his star Greg Meyer won the 1983 Boston Marathon, and many others ran in the Olympics, including several medalists. Warhurst also created a famous training regimen still called “The Michigan,” which thousands of competitive runners have used for decades.

Ronnie’s philosophy is straightforward, but difficult: 1) preparation, structure, and flexibility – a hard combination. 2) Don’t look over your shoulder because the race is in front of you. And 3) on any given day, there are people on the starting line who don’t want to be there because it’s too hot, too cold, raining, or snowing. Your job is to beat those guys.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Ron Warhurst won two NCAA titles as a member of the Western Michigan cross-country team in the 1960s. He graduated in 1966, volunteered for the Marines, then repeatedly asked to “walk point” through the Vietnamese jungle, which resulted in two Purple Hearts, before he was honorably discharged in 1970. He learned a simple lesson: “The world doesn’t stop because you’re scared.”

Three later the University of Michigan named him their varsity cross-country coach, with little experience. Warhurst’s teams won 18 Big Ten cross-country titles, his star Greg Meyer won the 1983 Boston Marathon, and many others ran in the Olympics, including several medalists. Warhurst also created a famous training regimen still called “The Michigan,” which thousands of competitive runners have used for decades.

Ronnie’s philosophy is straightforward, but difficult: 1) preparation, structure, and flexibility – a hard combination. 2) Don’t look over your shoulder because the race is in front of you. And 3) on any given day, there are people on the starting line who don’t want to be there because it’s too hot, too cold, raining, or snowing. Your job is to beat those guys.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Steve Schram, Radio Leader Part 2 | Let Them Lead Episode 11</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Since 2006 Steve Schram has served as the Executive Director and General Manager of Michigan Radio. With stations in Ann Arbor, Flint, and Grand Rapids, Michigan Radio serves more than one million listeners each month, and was named the Public Radio Station of the Year by the Michigan Association of Broadcasters for ten of the last 11 years. In this two-part podcast, Schram tells us how he first caught the radio bug as a newspaper boy with a transistor radio taped to his handlebars, and how his father and an unlikely radio hero both fanned these flickers into a flame. In telling us how he rose from producing lunch time radio for his classmates at Catholic Central through Detroit’s top commercial radio stations to Michigan Radio, Schram underscores three take-aways: 1) Don’t say “No, because,” but “Yes, if…”; ; 2) Don’t focus on the next job, but being good where you are; 3) “Always be recruiting,” long before you might need to hire them. Bonus: sending handwritten thank you notes will separate you from the crowd.</p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2021 13:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, Steve Schram)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since 2006 Steve Schram has served as the Executive Director and General Manager of Michigan Radio. With stations in Ann Arbor, Flint, and Grand Rapids, Michigan Radio serves more than one million listeners each month, and was named the Public Radio Station of the Year by the Michigan Association of Broadcasters for ten of the last 11 years. In this two-part podcast, Schram tells us how he first caught the radio bug as a newspaper boy with a transistor radio taped to his handlebars, and how his father and an unlikely radio hero both fanned these flickers into a flame. In telling us how he rose from producing lunch time radio for his classmates at Catholic Central through Detroit’s top commercial radio stations to Michigan Radio, Schram underscores three take-aways: 1) Don’t say “No, because,” but “Yes, if…”; ; 2) Don’t focus on the next job, but being good where you are; 3) “Always be recruiting,” long before you might need to hire them. Bonus: sending handwritten thank you notes will separate you from the crowd.</p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Steve Schram, Radio Leader Part 2 | Let Them Lead Episode 11</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:summary>Since 2006 Steve Schram has served as the Executive Director and General Manager of Michigan Radio. With stations in Ann Arbor, Flint, and Grand Rapids, Michigan Radio serves more than one million listeners each month, and was named the Public Radio Station of the Year by the Michigan Association of Broadcasters for ten of the last 11 years. In this two-part podcast, Schram tells us how he first caught the radio bug as a newspaper boy with a transistor radio taped to his handlebars, and how his father and an unlikely radio hero both fanned these flickers into a flame. In telling us how he rose from producing lunch time radio for his classmates at Catholic Central through Detroit’s top commercial radio stations to Michigan Radio, Schram underscores three take-aways: 1) Don’t say “No, because,” but “Yes, if…”; ; 2) Don’t focus on the next job, but being good where you are; 3) “Always be recruiting,” long before you might need to hire them. Bonus: sending handwritten thank you notes will separate you from the crowd.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Since 2006 Steve Schram has served as the Executive Director and General Manager of Michigan Radio. With stations in Ann Arbor, Flint, and Grand Rapids, Michigan Radio serves more than one million listeners each month, and was named the Public Radio Station of the Year by the Michigan Association of Broadcasters for ten of the last 11 years. In this two-part podcast, Schram tells us how he first caught the radio bug as a newspaper boy with a transistor radio taped to his handlebars, and how his father and an unlikely radio hero both fanned these flickers into a flame. In telling us how he rose from producing lunch time radio for his classmates at Catholic Central through Detroit’s top commercial radio stations to Michigan Radio, Schram underscores three take-aways: 1) Don’t say “No, because,” but “Yes, if…”; ; 2) Don’t focus on the next job, but being good where you are; 3) “Always be recruiting,” long before you might need to hire them. Bonus: sending handwritten thank you notes will separate you from the crowd.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Steve Schram | Let Them Lead Episode 10</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Our guest today is Steve Schram, the executive director and general manager of Michigan radio. Steve has been in radio management and worked as an on-air personality since before graduating from Catholic Central high school. Steve holds a Bachelors degree in Television and Radio from Michigan State University and an MBA from Eastern Michigan University.</p><p>Steve started his radio career by creating a closed circuit radio style program for his high school and the rest is history.</p><p>He’s functioned as on-air personality, program manager, and so many other positions since. Currently he holds the position of executive director and general manager of Michigan Radio, the states largest NPR listenership.</p><p>On this weeks episode we discussing Steve’s beginnings, where his passion for all things radio and media comes from, and how it was fostered by his school and his father. We also further discuss how he got his start officially in the business and worked his way up the ranks.</p><p>Next week we will dig even deeper into Steve’s more recent work as he progresses into higher level leadership roles.</p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 5 Nov 2021 17:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, Steve Schram)</author>
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<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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Steve started his radio career by creating a closed circuit radio style program for his high school and the rest is history. 
He’s functioned as on-air personality, program manager, and so many other positions since. Currently he holds the position of executive director and general manager of Michigan Radio, the states largest NPR listenership. 
On this weeks episode we discussing Steve’s beginnings, where his passion for all things radio and media comes from, and how it was fostered by his school and his father. We also further discuss how he got his start officially in the business and worked his way up the ranks.
Next week we will dig even deeper into Steve’s more recent work as he progresses into higher level leadership roles.</itunes:summary>
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Steve started his radio career by creating a closed circuit radio style program for his high school and the rest is history. 
He’s functioned as on-air personality, program manager, and so many other positions since. Currently he holds the position of executive director and general manager of Michigan Radio, the states largest NPR listenership. 
On this weeks episode we discussing Steve’s beginnings, where his passion for all things radio and media comes from, and how it was fostered by his school and his father. We also further discuss how he got his start officially in the business and worked his way up the ranks.
Next week we will dig even deeper into Steve’s more recent work as he progresses into higher level leadership roles.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Greg Meyer | Let Them Lead Episode 9</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p><i>GREG MEYER, 1983 Boston Marathon champion; 5-time state champion coach</i></p><p><i>In 1983, Greg Meyer won the world’s most famous race at the peak of the American running boom, beating his friend and training partner, Bill Rodgers, a.k.a. Mr. Marathon. Even more impressive, Meyer ran a sub-4:00 mile, and set American records in the 8K, 10K, 15K, 25K, and 10 mile – despite carrying 155 pounds, 30 more than Bill Rodgers, and 40 more than today’s champions. In this conversation Meyer talks about how U-M coach Ron Warhurst knew how to motivate him; how he came back from a heartbreaking setback in 1981 to win Boston in 1983; how he helped Dexter (MI) high school’s cross-country team win a record five-straight state titles; and how he has applied all these lessons to his current work in health care. Three take-aways: you have to visualize what you want; bad weather is your friend, because someone else doesn’t want to run in it; and you have to learn how to disagree without being disagreeable if you’re going to get people’s honest opinions, and still be respectful and kind.</i></p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2021 12:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, Greg Meyer)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>GREG MEYER, 1983 Boston Marathon champion; 5-time state champion coach</i></p><p><i>In 1983, Greg Meyer won the world’s most famous race at the peak of the American running boom, beating his friend and training partner, Bill Rodgers, a.k.a. Mr. Marathon. Even more impressive, Meyer ran a sub-4:00 mile, and set American records in the 8K, 10K, 15K, 25K, and 10 mile – despite carrying 155 pounds, 30 more than Bill Rodgers, and 40 more than today’s champions. In this conversation Meyer talks about how U-M coach Ron Warhurst knew how to motivate him; how he came back from a heartbreaking setback in 1981 to win Boston in 1983; how he helped Dexter (MI) high school’s cross-country team win a record five-straight state titles; and how he has applied all these lessons to his current work in health care. Three take-aways: you have to visualize what you want; bad weather is your friend, because someone else doesn’t want to run in it; and you have to learn how to disagree without being disagreeable if you’re going to get people’s honest opinions, and still be respectful and kind.</i></p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary>GREG MEYER, 1983 Boston Marathon champion; 5-time state champion coach
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      <description><![CDATA[<p><i>RED BERENSON, former NHL and University of Michigan player and coach</i></p><p><i>At the ripe age of 18, Berenson had the courage to turn down the Montreal Canadiens’ offer and pursue college hockey. Four years later he proved Montreal’s general manager wrong when he became the first player to jump directly from college hockey to the NHL – and also the first to wear a helmet before suffering a serious injury. After a 17-year NHL career, Berenson earned the NHL’s Coach of the Year award – and was fired the next year. A few years later he took over the University of Michigan, and in his sixth year started a 22-year streak of NCAA tournaments. In this episode Berenson talks about how he overcame his lack of knowledge of modern college hockey by having a clear vision for the program he wanted to lead; how a leader can’t waffle when laying down his expectations, and enforcing them; and the importance of caring about your people, and making them feel their role is important.</i></p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2021 15:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, RED BERENSON)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>RED BERENSON, former NHL and University of Michigan player and coach</i></p><p><i>At the ripe age of 18, Berenson had the courage to turn down the Montreal Canadiens’ offer and pursue college hockey. Four years later he proved Montreal’s general manager wrong when he became the first player to jump directly from college hockey to the NHL – and also the first to wear a helmet before suffering a serious injury. After a 17-year NHL career, Berenson earned the NHL’s Coach of the Year award – and was fired the next year. A few years later he took over the University of Michigan, and in his sixth year started a 22-year streak of NCAA tournaments. In this episode Berenson talks about how he overcame his lack of knowledge of modern college hockey by having a clear vision for the program he wanted to lead; how a leader can’t waffle when laying down his expectations, and enforcing them; and the importance of caring about your people, and making them feel their role is important.</i></p><p> </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Anne Curzan | Let Them Lead Episode 7</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Anne Curzan, the granddaughter of legendary Michigan State University president John Hannah, attended Yale, where she participated in some-two dozen intramural sports. After earning her Ph.D. in English language and Literature at the University of Michigan, she served on the faculty for 17 years before becoming dean of the U-M College of Literature, Science, and the Arts (LSA) in September of 2019. In those roles she has learned a lot about the unfairly maligned Millennials and Generation Z, and is eager to defend their ambition, work ethic, and vision. Two take-aways from this podcast include: today’s young people are mission-driven; when faced with a crisis like Covid, re-boot, re-imagine what you can be, and “recombobulate”; and good ideas come from everyone, so the leader's job is to elevate them. Her personal website: https://acurzan.english.lsa.umich.edu/</p><p> </p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p><p> </p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2021 12:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon, Anne Curzan)</author>
      <link>https://let-them-lead.simplecast.com/episodes/anne-curzan-let-them-lead-episode-7-3x5XLdci</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne Curzan, the granddaughter of legendary Michigan State University president John Hannah, attended Yale, where she participated in some-two dozen intramural sports. After earning her Ph.D. in English language and Literature at the University of Michigan, she served on the faculty for 17 years before becoming dean of the U-M College of Literature, Science, and the Arts (LSA) in September of 2019. In those roles she has learned a lot about the unfairly maligned Millennials and Generation Z, and is eager to defend their ambition, work ethic, and vision. Two take-aways from this podcast include: today’s young people are mission-driven; when faced with a crisis like Covid, re-boot, re-imagine what you can be, and “recombobulate”; and good ideas come from everyone, so the leader's job is to elevate them. Her personal website: https://acurzan.english.lsa.umich.edu/</p><p> </p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p><p> </p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Anne Curzan | Let Them Lead Episode 7</itunes:title>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Entering her 38th season at the University of Michigan, Carol Hutchins is just six wins away from winning more games than any softball coach at any level, nationwide. Though she couldn’t guess it within a hundred, her win total currently stands at 1,631, with 31 Big Ten season and tournament titles, 18 regional NCAA crowns, 12 appearances in the College Softball World Series, and the NCAA title in 2005 – the only Eastern and Northern school to do so, the equivalent of Alabama winning a Division I hockey title. She has been named Big Ten Coach of the Year 17 times, and twice nationally, but what’s more impressive is how she’s done it: getting young women to take responsibility for themselves, realize they’re accountable to each other, not just her, and never forgetting it’s an honor, not a privilege, to be a part of the team. As one of her players said, “I came here a girl with potential and left here a woman with no limits." Hutchins is proudest of the fact her players have gone onto do great things far beyond softball.</p><p>Let Them Lead is a podcast about the risks and rewards of leading today.</p><p>I’m John Bacon, author of the book, LET THEM LEAD: Unexpected Lessons in Leadership from America’s Worst High School Hockey Team, which led to this podcast. </p><p>On Let Them Lead we talk to remarkable leaders from every field imaginable –automotive, computers, food service, education, and athletics, to name a few – and they share their hard-won wisdom, amazing stories, and a few laughs. You’ll learn a few things you can use tomorrow, and others you can think about the rest of your life. We always finish with three take-aways, and a discussion of their favorite teacher. </p><p>In the words of my fifth-grade teacher, Mr. Pudduck, it’s fast, fun, and we get it done. </p><p>So please join us for an entertaining and inspiring discussion. You’ll be glad you did. </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2021 13:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Entering her 38th season at the University of Michigan, Carol Hutchins is just six wins away from winning more games than any softball coach at any level, nationwide. Though she couldn’t guess it within a hundred, her win total currently stands at 1,631, with 31 Big Ten season and tournament titles, 18 regional NCAA crowns, 12 appearances in the College Softball World Series, and the NCAA title in 2005 – the only Eastern and Northern school to do so, the equivalent of Alabama winning a Division I hockey title. She has been named Big Ten Coach of the Year 17 times, and twice nationally, but what’s more impressive is how she’s done it: getting young women to take responsibility for themselves, realize they’re accountable to each other, not just her, and never forgetting it’s an honor, not a privilege, to be a part of the team. As one of her players said, “I came here a girl with potential and left here a woman with no limits." Hutchins is proudest of the fact her players have gone onto do great things far beyond softball.</p><p>Let Them Lead is a podcast about the risks and rewards of leading today.</p><p>I’m John Bacon, author of the book, LET THEM LEAD: Unexpected Lessons in Leadership from America’s Worst High School Hockey Team, which led to this podcast. </p><p>On Let Them Lead we talk to remarkable leaders from every field imaginable –automotive, computers, food service, education, and athletics, to name a few – and they share their hard-won wisdom, amazing stories, and a few laughs. You’ll learn a few things you can use tomorrow, and others you can think about the rest of your life. We always finish with three take-aways, and a discussion of their favorite teacher. </p><p>In the words of my fifth-grade teacher, Mr. Pudduck, it’s fast, fun, and we get it done. </p><p>So please join us for an entertaining and inspiring discussion. You’ll be glad you did. </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>Carol Hutchins | Let them Lead Episode 6</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Entering her 38th season at the University of Michigan, Carol Hutchins is just six wins away from winning more games than any softball coach at any level, nationwide. Though she couldn’t guess it within a hundred, her win total currently stands at 1,631, with 31 Big Ten season and tournament titles, 18 regional NCAA crowns, 12 appearances in the College Softball World Series, and the NCAA title in 2005 – the only Eastern and Northern school to do so, the equivalent of Alabama winning a Division I hockey title. She has been named Big Ten Coach of the Year 17 times, and twice nationally, but what’s more impressive is how she’s done it: getting young women to take responsibility for themselves, realize they’re accountable to each other, not just her, and never forgetting it’s an honor, not a privilege, to be a part of the team. As one of her players said, “I came here a girl with potential and left here a woman with no limits.&quot; Hutchins is proudest of the fact her players have gone onto do great things far beyond softball.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>To get to his current post, as Vice-President of a 250-store chain, Tim Williams beat the odds repeatedly. Born and raised in inner-city Milwaukee, Williams earned an academic scholarship to a Catholic boys’ school, then an athletic scholarship at the University of Michigan, where he started as linebacker and won three Big Ten titles. But Williams declined his fifth year, and a shot at pro football, to enter UM’s law school, and later turned down bigger money in private practice to become Vice-President at Meijer. Contrary to conventional wisdom, Williams preaches that diversity and inclusion entails more than race, gender, and ethnicity, and embracing it is a smart business strategy.</p><p> </p><p>Let Them Lead is a podcast about the risks and rewards of leading today.</p><p>I’m John Bacon, author of the book, LET THEM LEAD: Unexpected Lessons in Leadership from America’s Worst High School Hockey Team, which led to this podcast. </p><p>On Let Them Lead we talk to remarkable leaders from every field imaginable –automotive, computers, food service, education, and athletics, to name a few – and they share their hard-won wisdom, amazing stories, and a few laughs. You’ll learn a few things you can use tomorrow, and others you can think about the rest of your life. We always finish with three take-aways, and a discussion of their favorite teacher. </p><p>In the words of my fifth-grade teacher, Mr. Pudduck, it’s fast, fun, and we get it done. </p><p>So please join us for an entertaining and inspiring discussion. You’ll be glad you did. </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2021 09:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (Tim Williams, John U Bacon)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To get to his current post, as Vice-President of a 250-store chain, Tim Williams beat the odds repeatedly. Born and raised in inner-city Milwaukee, Williams earned an academic scholarship to a Catholic boys’ school, then an athletic scholarship at the University of Michigan, where he started as linebacker and won three Big Ten titles. But Williams declined his fifth year, and a shot at pro football, to enter UM’s law school, and later turned down bigger money in private practice to become Vice-President at Meijer. Contrary to conventional wisdom, Williams preaches that diversity and inclusion entails more than race, gender, and ethnicity, and embracing it is a smart business strategy.</p><p> </p><p>Let Them Lead is a podcast about the risks and rewards of leading today.</p><p>I’m John Bacon, author of the book, LET THEM LEAD: Unexpected Lessons in Leadership from America’s Worst High School Hockey Team, which led to this podcast. </p><p>On Let Them Lead we talk to remarkable leaders from every field imaginable –automotive, computers, food service, education, and athletics, to name a few – and they share their hard-won wisdom, amazing stories, and a few laughs. You’ll learn a few things you can use tomorrow, and others you can think about the rest of your life. We always finish with three take-aways, and a discussion of their favorite teacher. </p><p>In the words of my fifth-grade teacher, Mr. Pudduck, it’s fast, fun, and we get it done. </p><p>So please join us for an entertaining and inspiring discussion. You’ll be glad you did. </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>About the Podcast | Let Them Lead Episode 4</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Let Them Lead is a podcast about the risks and rewards of leading today.</p><p>I’m John Bacon, author of the book, LET THEM LEAD: Unexpected Lessons in Leadership from America’s Worst High School Hockey Team, which led to this podcast. </p><p>On Let Them Lead we talk to remarkable leaders from every field imaginable –automotive, computers, food service, education, and athletics, to name a few – and they share their hard-won wisdom, amazing stories, and a few laughs. You’ll learn a few things you can use tomorrow, and others you can think about the rest of your life. We always finish with three take-aways, and a discussion of their favorite teacher. </p><p>In the words of my fifth-grade teacher, Mr. Pudduck, it’s fast, fun, and we get it done. </p><p>So please join us for an entertaining and  inspiring discussion. You’ll be glad you did. </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p><p>In this introductory episode, I explain why I wrote <i>Let Them Lead: Unexpected Lessons in Leadership from America’s Worst High School Hockey Team, </i>how it led to launching this podcast, and what this podcast is all about. </p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 7 Sep 2021 09:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (John U Bacon)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let Them Lead is a podcast about the risks and rewards of leading today.</p><p>I’m John Bacon, author of the book, LET THEM LEAD: Unexpected Lessons in Leadership from America’s Worst High School Hockey Team, which led to this podcast. </p><p>On Let Them Lead we talk to remarkable leaders from every field imaginable –automotive, computers, food service, education, and athletics, to name a few – and they share their hard-won wisdom, amazing stories, and a few laughs. You’ll learn a few things you can use tomorrow, and others you can think about the rest of your life. We always finish with three take-aways, and a discussion of their favorite teacher. </p><p>In the words of my fifth-grade teacher, Mr. Pudduck, it’s fast, fun, and we get it done. </p><p>So please join us for an entertaining and  inspiring discussion. You’ll be glad you did. </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p><p>In this introductory episode, I explain why I wrote <i>Let Them Lead: Unexpected Lessons in Leadership from America’s Worst High School Hockey Team, </i>how it led to launching this podcast, and what this podcast is all about. </p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:title>About the Podcast | Let Them Lead Episode 4</itunes:title>
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      <title>Ari Weinzweig | Let Them Lead Episode 3</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Let Them Lead is a podcast about the risks and rewards of leading today.</p><p>I’m John Bacon, author of the book, LET THEM LEAD: Unexpected Lessons in Leadership from America’s Worst High School Hockey Team, which led to this podcast. </p><p>On Let Them Lead we talk to remarkable leaders from every field imaginable –automotive, computers, food service, education, and athletics, to name a few – and they share their hard-won wisdom, amazing stories, and a few laughs. You’ll learn a few things you can use tomorrow, and others you can think about the rest of your life. We always finish with three take-aways, and a discussion of their favorite teacher. </p><p>In the words of my fifth-grade teacher, Mr. Pudduck, it’s fast, fun, and we get it done. </p><p>So please join us for an entertaining and  inspiring discussion. You’ll be glad you did. </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p><p> </p><p>This weeks Guest is Ari Weinzweig. Food critics around the world have extolled the virtues of Zingermans community of businesses, from their flagship delicatessen to their Roadhouse restaurant to the Creamery, Coffee Company, Mail Order service, and Zingtrain, where they teach leaders from all fields their secrets. But you wouldn’t have guessed Zingerman’s success in 1982, when Weinzweig, a self-described “lapsed anarchist” and former busboy, and Paul Saginaw started Zingerman’s in Ann Arbor. In this episode, Weinzweig explains how the business they built on trust – including sharing their financials with everyone – became a $70 million dollar a year empire. </p><p><a href="https://www.zingtrain.com/trainer/ari-weinzweig/">https://www.zingtrain.com/trainer/ari-weinzweig/</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 7 Sep 2021 09:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>letthemleadpodcast@gmail.com (ARI WEINZWEIG, John U Bacon)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let Them Lead is a podcast about the risks and rewards of leading today.</p><p>I’m John Bacon, author of the book, LET THEM LEAD: Unexpected Lessons in Leadership from America’s Worst High School Hockey Team, which led to this podcast. </p><p>On Let Them Lead we talk to remarkable leaders from every field imaginable –automotive, computers, food service, education, and athletics, to name a few – and they share their hard-won wisdom, amazing stories, and a few laughs. You’ll learn a few things you can use tomorrow, and others you can think about the rest of your life. We always finish with three take-aways, and a discussion of their favorite teacher. </p><p>In the words of my fifth-grade teacher, Mr. Pudduck, it’s fast, fun, and we get it done. </p><p>So please join us for an entertaining and  inspiring discussion. You’ll be glad you did. </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p><p> </p><p>This weeks Guest is Ari Weinzweig. Food critics around the world have extolled the virtues of Zingermans community of businesses, from their flagship delicatessen to their Roadhouse restaurant to the Creamery, Coffee Company, Mail Order service, and Zingtrain, where they teach leaders from all fields their secrets. But you wouldn’t have guessed Zingerman’s success in 1982, when Weinzweig, a self-described “lapsed anarchist” and former busboy, and Paul Saginaw started Zingerman’s in Ann Arbor. In this episode, Weinzweig explains how the business they built on trust – including sharing their financials with everyone – became a $70 million dollar a year empire. </p><p><a href="https://www.zingtrain.com/trainer/ari-weinzweig/">https://www.zingtrain.com/trainer/ari-weinzweig/</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Let Them Lead is a podcast about the risks and rewards of leading today.</p><p>I’m John Bacon, author of the book, LET THEM LEAD: Unexpected Lessons in Leadership from America’s Worst High School Hockey Team, which led to this podcast. </p><p>On Let Them Lead we talk to remarkable leaders from every field imaginable –automotive, computers, food service, education, and athletics, to name a few – and they share their hard-won wisdom, amazing stories, and a few laughs. You’ll learn a few things you can use tomorrow, and others you can think about the rest of your life. We always finish with three take-aways, and a discussion of their favorite teacher. </p><p>In the words of my fifth-grade teacher, Mr. Pudduck, it’s fast, fun, and we get it done. </p><p>So please join us for an entertaining and  inspiring discussion. You’ll be glad you did. </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p><p> </p><p>This week's guest is Richard Sheridan. When Richard speaks to MBA students, he tells them that their careers will really start after they’ve been fired the first time. This gets their attention – and it got ours. It happened to Sheridan when he was 43, with a wife and three young daughters,  and he got the call that his software company would be eliminating his position.  But from that low point came his best idea: Menlo Innovations, a completely different kind of software company, one they founded on an almost foreign concept: joy – joy for the creators, the users, and the sponsors. “Joy is the goal,” he says, and the high customer satisfaction, low turnover, and strong profits, happy byproducts. Almost everything your company probably does, Menlo does the opposite. </p><p>Connect with Richard:</p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/menloprez/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/menloprez/</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/menloprez?lang=en" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/menloprez?lang=en</a></p><p><a href="https://richardsheridan.com/" target="_blank">https://richardsheridan.com/</a></p>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let Them Lead is a podcast about the risks and rewards of leading today.</p><p>I’m John Bacon, author of the book, LET THEM LEAD: Unexpected Lessons in Leadership from America’s Worst High School Hockey Team, which led to this podcast. </p><p>On Let Them Lead we talk to remarkable leaders from every field imaginable –automotive, computers, food service, education, and athletics, to name a few – and they share their hard-won wisdom, amazing stories, and a few laughs. You’ll learn a few things you can use tomorrow, and others you can think about the rest of your life. We always finish with three take-aways, and a discussion of their favorite teacher. </p><p>In the words of my fifth-grade teacher, Mr. Pudduck, it’s fast, fun, and we get it done. </p><p>So please join us for an entertaining and  inspiring discussion. You’ll be glad you did. </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p><p> </p><p>This week's guest is Richard Sheridan. When Richard speaks to MBA students, he tells them that their careers will really start after they’ve been fired the first time. This gets their attention – and it got ours. It happened to Sheridan when he was 43, with a wife and three young daughters,  and he got the call that his software company would be eliminating his position.  But from that low point came his best idea: Menlo Innovations, a completely different kind of software company, one they founded on an almost foreign concept: joy – joy for the creators, the users, and the sponsors. “Joy is the goal,” he says, and the high customer satisfaction, low turnover, and strong profits, happy byproducts. Almost everything your company probably does, Menlo does the opposite. </p><p>Connect with Richard:</p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/menloprez/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/menloprez/</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/menloprez?lang=en" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/menloprez?lang=en</a></p><p><a href="https://richardsheridan.com/" target="_blank">https://richardsheridan.com/</a></p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Let Them Lead is a podcast about the risks and rewards of leading today.</p><p>I’m John Bacon, author of the book, LET THEM LEAD: Unexpected Lessons in Leadership from America’s Worst High School Hockey Team, which led to this podcast. </p><p>On Let Them Lead we talk to remarkable leaders from every field imaginable –automotive, computers, food service, education, and athletics, to name a few – and they share their hard-won wisdom, amazing stories, and a few laughs. You’ll learn a few things you can use tomorrow, and others you can think about the rest of your life. We always finish with three take-aways, and a discussion of their favorite teacher. </p><p>In the words of my fifth-grade teacher, Mr. Pudduck, it’s fast, fun, and we get it done. </p><p>So please join us for an entertaining and  inspiring discussion. You’ll be glad you did. </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p><p> </p><p>Jim Hackett started his leadership career as a third-string center on the University of Michigan football team, where he kept a group of young-back ups motivated to take on some of the nation’s best players in practice every day. He rose to become the youngest CEO of Steelcase furniture at the ripe age of 39, turning the Fortune 500 around during trying times. After two decades, he accepted the University of Michigan’s invitation to return as interim athletic director – “Some jobs are for God and country,” as he explains -- then became Ford Motor Company’s CEO, one of the world’s biggest leadership jobs. One of his takeaways: “The softest pillow in the world is a clean conscience.”</p>
<p><p>About our Host:</p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 7 Sep 2021 09:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let Them Lead is a podcast about the risks and rewards of leading today.</p><p>I’m John Bacon, author of the book, LET THEM LEAD: Unexpected Lessons in Leadership from America’s Worst High School Hockey Team, which led to this podcast. </p><p>On Let Them Lead we talk to remarkable leaders from every field imaginable –automotive, computers, food service, education, and athletics, to name a few – and they share their hard-won wisdom, amazing stories, and a few laughs. You’ll learn a few things you can use tomorrow, and others you can think about the rest of your life. We always finish with three take-aways, and a discussion of their favorite teacher. </p><p>In the words of my fifth-grade teacher, Mr. Pudduck, it’s fast, fun, and we get it done. </p><p>So please join us for an entertaining and  inspiring discussion. You’ll be glad you did. </p><p>For info about the book or this podcast please visit our website:</p><p><a href="http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com">http://www.letthemleadbybacon.com</a></p><p><a href="http://www.johnubacon.com">http://www.johnubacon.com</a></p><p>You can connect with John via these platforms:</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon">https://www.facebook.com/johnubacon</a></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Johnubacon">https://twitter.com/Johnubacon</a></p><p> </p><p>Jim Hackett started his leadership career as a third-string center on the University of Michigan football team, where he kept a group of young-back ups motivated to take on some of the nation’s best players in practice every day. He rose to become the youngest CEO of Steelcase furniture at the ripe age of 39, turning the Fortune 500 around during trying times. After two decades, he accepted the University of Michigan’s invitation to return as interim athletic director – “Some jobs are for God and country,” as he explains -- then became Ford Motor Company’s CEO, one of the world’s biggest leadership jobs. One of his takeaways: “The softest pillow in the world is a clean conscience.”</p>
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