https://simplecast.com Haystacks & Hell Stories about growing up Seventh-day Adventist, leaving faith behind, and building new, fulfilling lives. Haystacks & Hell en Sat, 26 Apr 2025 12:00:00 +0000 Sat, 26 Apr 2025 12:00:13 +0000 https://haystacksnhell.com/ Haystacks & Hell https://image.simplecastcdn.com/images/663757f4-6114-4087-bed3-d3f194091418/07628fc7-3b92-47aa-832c-4158c38630bf/3000x3000/podcast-cover-art-3000x3000.jpg?aid=rss_feed https://haystacksnhell.com/ serial Stories about growing up Seventh-day Adventist, leaving faith behind, and building new, fulfilling lives. Haystacks & Hell true https://feeds.simplecast.com/JnK09jNF ex christian, ex adventist, ex sda, #exvangelical, atheist, ex-christian, exvangelical, empty the pews, ex-adventist, agnostic, adventist, ex-sda, seventh-day adventist, #emptythepews, sda Haystacks & Hell haystacksnhell@gmail.com ca5cf6d3-d1d9-4ab4-a77d-19785aa86a70 S3:E3 - More Adventist Music Drama Support the Show • This re-upload of Abby and Ami's original show SDAP dives into the complex and often contradictory relationship between music and the Seventh-day Adventist faith. Abby, Ami, Alex, and friends talk about their experiences with church music, worldly music, hypocrisy, destroying CDs, and just plain weirdness.

00:00 Story Previews 
00:27 Haystacks and Hell Intro 
00:44 Episode Intro 
01:33 Abby, Ami, and Alex on Music 
07:17 Adventist Attitudes on Music 
15:15 "Christian Rock" 
19:56 Church vs. Academy 
28:06 Destroying CDs 
30:16 Music Taste and Hypocrisy 
46:43 Dorms and Music Contraband 
53:19 Guest Stories 
58:50 Outro

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]]> Sat, 26 Apr 2025 12:00:00 +0000 haystacksnhell@gmail.com (Abby, Alex, Ami, Santiago) https://haystacksnhell.com/ Support the Show • This re-upload of Abby and Ami's original show SDAP dives into the complex and often contradictory relationship between music and the Seventh-day Adventist faith. Abby, Ami, Alex, and friends talk about their experiences with church music, worldly music, hypocrisy, destroying CDs, and just plain weirdness.

00:00 Story Previews 
00:27 Haystacks and Hell Intro 
00:44 Episode Intro 
01:33 Abby, Ami, and Alex on Music 
07:17 Adventist Attitudes on Music 
15:15 "Christian Rock" 
19:56 Church vs. Academy 
28:06 Destroying CDs 
30:16 Music Taste and Hypocrisy 
46:43 Dorms and Music Contraband 
53:19 Guest Stories 
58:50 Outro

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]]> S3:E3 - More Adventist Music Drama Abby, Alex, Ami, Santiago 00:59:30 This re-upload of Abby and Ami's original show SDAP dives into the complex and often contradictory relationship between music and the Seventh-day Adventist faith. Abby, Ami, Alex, and friends talk about their experiences with church music, worldly music, hypocrisy, destroying CDs, and just plain weirdness. This re-upload of Abby and Ami's original show SDAP dives into the complex and often contradictory relationship between music and the Seventh-day Adventist faith. Abby, Ami, Alex, and friends talk about their experiences with church music, worldly music, hypocrisy, destroying CDs, and just plain weirdness. ex fundie, ex-fundie, ex-sda, ellen white, deconstruction, culture, ex-adventist, sda, music, ex-christian, seventh-day adventist, adventist, ex-fundamentalist, ex fundamentalist, ex adventist, ex sda, exvangelical, ex christian true full 3 3 6c722ece-7358-4ab6-8bcf-5ca3ac50248e S3:E2 - The Devil's Tunes: SDA Views on Music Support the Show • Did you ever get scolded for the music you played in church? We're diving into traditional Seventh-day Adventist attitudes toward music and talking about my own personal experience with music while growing up in the church. We'll also cover historical Protestant views on organs, early Adventist resistance to musical instruments, and the silly debate around Christian Contemporary Music.
-Santiago

Sources:
SDAs didn't use instruments for first 3 decades
First documented use of an organ in 1877
E.J. Waggoner "Solo singing has no rightful place..."
Ira Sankey hymns called the "devil's tunes"
Alma Blackmon quote re: White elitist professors
Who is Heinrich Schenker and why should you care?
Music Theory and the White Racial Frame
Music Theory and White Supremacy
Jacob Aranza Interview
Rock Is Dead, Thank God
IFPI 2023 Global Music Report
Spotify Top Trends of 2023
Who killed the CCM industry?

SDA propaganda given to me:
10 SHOCKING "FACTS" (BS) About CCM
Inside Rock Music by Vance Ferrell
Ted Wilson Facebook Post
Seventh-day Adventist Philosophy of Music

Recommended reading:
The Devil’s Music - How Christians Inspired, Condemned, and Embraced Rock ’n’ Roll

00:00 Intro
00:16 My Background with Music
06:28 Local Cultures Define Worship Styles
07:47 Protestants Hated the Organ?
10:21 Early Adventists Didn't Use Instruments
15:18 Racist Attitudes
17:58 Music Theory in the US
19:31 Rock and CCM
21:17 Anti-CCM SDA YouTuber
24:50 Inside Rock Music
28:02 Jacob Aranza, Satanic Panic Provocateur
34:18 Recap and Outro

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]]> Mon, 31 Mar 2025 19:57:16 +0000 haystacksnhell@gmail.com (Haystacks & Hell) https://haystacksnhell.com/ Support the Show • Did you ever get scolded for the music you played in church? We're diving into traditional Seventh-day Adventist attitudes toward music and talking about my own personal experience with music while growing up in the church. We'll also cover historical Protestant views on organs, early Adventist resistance to musical instruments, and the silly debate around Christian Contemporary Music.
-Santiago

Sources:
SDAs didn't use instruments for first 3 decades
First documented use of an organ in 1877
E.J. Waggoner "Solo singing has no rightful place..."
Ira Sankey hymns called the "devil's tunes"
Alma Blackmon quote re: White elitist professors
Who is Heinrich Schenker and why should you care?
Music Theory and the White Racial Frame
Music Theory and White Supremacy
Jacob Aranza Interview
Rock Is Dead, Thank God
IFPI 2023 Global Music Report
Spotify Top Trends of 2023
Who killed the CCM industry?

SDA propaganda given to me:
10 SHOCKING "FACTS" (BS) About CCM
Inside Rock Music by Vance Ferrell
Ted Wilson Facebook Post
Seventh-day Adventist Philosophy of Music

Recommended reading:
The Devil’s Music - How Christians Inspired, Condemned, and Embraced Rock ’n’ Roll

00:00 Intro
00:16 My Background with Music
06:28 Local Cultures Define Worship Styles
07:47 Protestants Hated the Organ?
10:21 Early Adventists Didn't Use Instruments
15:18 Racist Attitudes
17:58 Music Theory in the US
19:31 Rock and CCM
21:17 Anti-CCM SDA YouTuber
24:50 Inside Rock Music
28:02 Jacob Aranza, Satanic Panic Provocateur
34:18 Recap and Outro

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]]> S3:E2 - The Devil's Tunes: SDA Views on Music Haystacks & Hell 00:36:39 Did you ever get scolded for the music you played in church? We're diving into traditional Seventh-day Adventist attitudes toward music and talking about my own personal experience with music while growing up in the church. We'll also cover historical Protestant views on organs, early Adventist resistance to musical instruments, and the silly debate around Christian Contemporary Music. -Santiago Did you ever get scolded for the music you played in church? We're diving into traditional Seventh-day Adventist attitudes toward music and talking about my own personal experience with music while growing up in the church. We'll also cover historical Protestant views on organs, early Adventist resistance to musical instruments, and the silly debate around Christian Contemporary Music. -Santiago true full 2 3 c2f35d95-9ecf-4c4d-9c3f-bc8b5ad27ed6 S3:E1 - The Next Four Years Support the Show • Santiago discusses the current political climate, especially the continued rise of Christian Nationalism in the United States, while reflecting on his personal journey from right-wing authoritarian beliefs to greater empathy and understanding. Listeners are encouraged to stay informed, participate in local elections, maintain hope for justice and positive change.
 

Resources / Topics Mentioned:

Reddit Post - "My dad woke my fears" 
Blog Post - Trump in office Ten Days: the Seventh-day Adventist Church wrote "Keep your mouth shut" 
Book - Armageddon by Bart Ehrman 
Video - Data Over Dogma Interview with Bart Ehrman 
Video - Skeptic.com Interview with Bart Ehrman 
Podcast - Sunday School Dropouts 
PDF - Ben Carson's Project 2025 Contribution 
Video - Don't Believe Him - Ezra Klein

Independent Media Suggestions:

DemocracyNow.org / YouTube 
Colonial Outcasts Podcast 
Drop Site News 
Breaking Points 
Legal Eagle - WTF is DOGE? 
Last Week Tonight 
Adam Conover 
More Perfect Union

00:00 Intro and Season 3 Kickoff
01:07 Political Climate and Deconstruction
03:48 Personal Journey and Reflections
06:11 Anxiety and End Times
11:14 Christian Nationalism
26:38 Encouragement and Resources
 

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]]> Sat, 22 Feb 2025 13:00:00 +0000 haystacksnhell@gmail.com (Santiago) https://haystacksnhell.com/ Support the Show • Santiago discusses the current political climate, especially the continued rise of Christian Nationalism in the United States, while reflecting on his personal journey from right-wing authoritarian beliefs to greater empathy and understanding. Listeners are encouraged to stay informed, participate in local elections, maintain hope for justice and positive change.
 

Resources / Topics Mentioned:

Reddit Post - "My dad woke my fears" 
Blog Post - Trump in office Ten Days: the Seventh-day Adventist Church wrote "Keep your mouth shut" 
Book - Armageddon by Bart Ehrman 
Video - Data Over Dogma Interview with Bart Ehrman 
Video - Skeptic.com Interview with Bart Ehrman 
Podcast - Sunday School Dropouts 
PDF - Ben Carson's Project 2025 Contribution 
Video - Don't Believe Him - Ezra Klein

Independent Media Suggestions:

DemocracyNow.org / YouTube 
Colonial Outcasts Podcast 
Drop Site News 
Breaking Points 
Legal Eagle - WTF is DOGE? 
Last Week Tonight 
Adam Conover 
More Perfect Union

00:00 Intro and Season 3 Kickoff
01:07 Political Climate and Deconstruction
03:48 Personal Journey and Reflections
06:11 Anxiety and End Times
11:14 Christian Nationalism
26:38 Encouragement and Resources
 

Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes
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]]> S3:E1 - The Next Four Years Santiago 00:31:40 Santiago discusses the current political climate, especially the continued rise of Christian Nationalism in the United States, while reflecting on his personal journey from right-wing authoritarian beliefs to greater empathy and understanding. Listeners are encouraged to stay informed, participate in local elections, maintain hope for justice and positive change. Santiago discusses the current political climate, especially the continued rise of Christian Nationalism in the United States, while reflecting on his personal journey from right-wing authoritarian beliefs to greater empathy and understanding. Listeners are encouraged to stay informed, participate in local elections, maintain hope for justice and positive change. true full 1 3 6a9d9200-9d03-4ac7-8df4-6e3556f24011 S2:E15 - From Faith & Fear to Freedom: Dee - Pt. 2 Support the Show • Part 2 of Santiago's interview with Dee. We discussed his questioning of Adventism and Christianity in general, Satanic Panic, his evolving perspectives on religion, and having empathy for believers. We also talked about Dee's move to Sweden, his childhood connection to Dr. Ben Carson, and how the Ben Carson on TV is not the same man Dee once knew.

Resources / Topics Mentioned: 
Song - I'm Afraid I'll Go to Heaven by Moon Walker 
Book - Inside Rock Music (SDA anti-rock propaganda) 
Artist - Erykah Badu 
Video - Erykah Badu NPR Tiny Desk Concert 
Article - Dr. Ben Carson 
Video - Carson 1997 National Prayer Breakfast Speech @ 34:53 
Video - Carson 2013 National Prayer Breakfast Speech @ 34:10

00:00 Intro 
01:05 Part 2 of Dee's Story 
02:34 The Historical Jesus 
04:42 Personal Tragedy and Realizations 
07:34 Why Do People Leave? 
13:47 Empathy for Believers 
21:41 Segregated Conferences 
26:17 Sweden, Racism, and CRT 
32:58 Music and Satanic Panic 
44:00 Dr. Ben Carson 
49:39 Moving to Sweden 
54:02 Ethics and Adventism 
1:05:37 Closing Thoughts
 

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]]> Sat, 28 Sep 2024 12:00:00 +0000 haystacksnhell@gmail.com (Dee, Santiago) https://haystacksnhell.com/ Support the Show • Part 2 of Santiago's interview with Dee. We discussed his questioning of Adventism and Christianity in general, Satanic Panic, his evolving perspectives on religion, and having empathy for believers. We also talked about Dee's move to Sweden, his childhood connection to Dr. Ben Carson, and how the Ben Carson on TV is not the same man Dee once knew.

Resources / Topics Mentioned: 
Song - I'm Afraid I'll Go to Heaven by Moon Walker 
Book - Inside Rock Music (SDA anti-rock propaganda) 
Artist - Erykah Badu 
Video - Erykah Badu NPR Tiny Desk Concert 
Article - Dr. Ben Carson 
Video - Carson 1997 National Prayer Breakfast Speech @ 34:53 
Video - Carson 2013 National Prayer Breakfast Speech @ 34:10

00:00 Intro 
01:05 Part 2 of Dee's Story 
02:34 The Historical Jesus 
04:42 Personal Tragedy and Realizations 
07:34 Why Do People Leave? 
13:47 Empathy for Believers 
21:41 Segregated Conferences 
26:17 Sweden, Racism, and CRT 
32:58 Music and Satanic Panic 
44:00 Dr. Ben Carson 
49:39 Moving to Sweden 
54:02 Ethics and Adventism 
1:05:37 Closing Thoughts
 

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]]> S2:E15 - From Faith & Fear to Freedom: Dee - Pt. 2 Dee, Santiago 01:11:24 Part 2 of Santiago's interview with Dee. We discussed his questioning of Adventism and Christianity in general, Satanic Panic, his evolving perspectives on religion, and having empathy for believers. We also talked about Dee's move to Sweden, his childhood connection to Dr. Ben Carson, and how the Ben Carson on TV is not the same man Dee once knew. Part 2 of Santiago's interview with Dee. We discussed his questioning of Adventism and Christianity in general, Satanic Panic, his evolving perspectives on religion, and having empathy for believers. We also talked about Dee's move to Sweden, his childhood connection to Dr. Ben Carson, and how the Ben Carson on TV is not the same man Dee once knew. ex fundie, ex-fundie, ex-sda, ellen white, end times, deconstruction, culture, ex-adventist, sda, agnostic, ex-christian, seventh-day adventist, adventist, racism, ex-fundamentalist, eschatology, ex fundamentalist, atheist, ex adventist, deconversion, ex sda, afterlife, empty the pews, religious trauma, exvangelical, ex christian, belief true full 15 2 1a9804b9-1a6d-4c8e-9d3b-6bbe9be3489e S2:E14 - From Faith & Fear to Freedom: Dee - Pt. 1 Support the Show • Part 1 of Santiago's interview with Dee, a fourth-generation Seventh-day Adventist, about his SDA background, early baptism, education, and what led him out of the church. In our wide-ranging conversation, we discussed racial issues in Adventist schools, the Civil Rights Movement, and more.

Resources / Topics Mentioned: 

Video - We Are the World 
Topic - Public Enemy 
Film - Malcolm X (1992) 
Topic - Assassination of MLK Jr. 
Topic - Poor People's Campaign 
Topic - The 15 Year Battle for MLK Jr Day 
Video - MLK: "A riot is the language of the unheard" 
Topic - White Americans Celebrated MLK's Death 
Topic - Ronald Reagan's wartime lies
 

00:00 Intro
00:17 Meet Dee: 4th Gen Adventist
02:49 Early Memories & Fearing Ellen White
04:01 Questioning Church Teachings
09:02 A Life-Changing Tragedy
11:04 Living with Fear & Moving to Huntsville
19:01 Baptism and Religious Pressure
22:26 Purity Culture & Mixed Messages
28:51 Weird "Health Message" Fads
31:29 Racial Issues in Adventist Schools
38:11 Civil Rights, Division, MLK
43:30 Deconstructing Beliefs
47:02 How Othering Manipulates Us
53:07 The New Generation
55:29 Trickle Down Greedonomics
1:00:42 Dee's Adventist Education
1:07:16 Goodbye Oakwood, Hello Adulthood
1:11:26 Outro

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]]> Sat, 13 Jul 2024 12:45:10 +0000 haystacksnhell@gmail.com (Dee, Santiago) https://haystacksnhell.com/ Support the Show • Part 1 of Santiago's interview with Dee, a fourth-generation Seventh-day Adventist, about his SDA background, early baptism, education, and what led him out of the church. In our wide-ranging conversation, we discussed racial issues in Adventist schools, the Civil Rights Movement, and more.

Resources / Topics Mentioned: 

Video - We Are the World 
Topic - Public Enemy 
Film - Malcolm X (1992) 
Topic - Assassination of MLK Jr. 
Topic - Poor People's Campaign 
Topic - The 15 Year Battle for MLK Jr Day 
Video - MLK: "A riot is the language of the unheard" 
Topic - White Americans Celebrated MLK's Death 
Topic - Ronald Reagan's wartime lies
 

00:00 Intro
00:17 Meet Dee: 4th Gen Adventist
02:49 Early Memories & Fearing Ellen White
04:01 Questioning Church Teachings
09:02 A Life-Changing Tragedy
11:04 Living with Fear & Moving to Huntsville
19:01 Baptism and Religious Pressure
22:26 Purity Culture & Mixed Messages
28:51 Weird "Health Message" Fads
31:29 Racial Issues in Adventist Schools
38:11 Civil Rights, Division, MLK
43:30 Deconstructing Beliefs
47:02 How Othering Manipulates Us
53:07 The New Generation
55:29 Trickle Down Greedonomics
1:00:42 Dee's Adventist Education
1:07:16 Goodbye Oakwood, Hello Adulthood
1:11:26 Outro

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]]> S2:E14 - From Faith & Fear to Freedom: Dee - Pt. 1 Dee, Santiago 01:12:06 Part 1 of Santiago's interview with Dee, a fourth-generation Seventh-day Adventist, about his SDA background, early baptism, education, and what led him out of the church. In our wide-ranging conversation, we discussed racial issues in Adventist schools, the Civil Rights Movement, and more. Part 1 of Santiago's interview with Dee, a fourth-generation Seventh-day Adventist, about his SDA background, early baptism, education, and what led him out of the church. In our wide-ranging conversation, we discussed racial issues in Adventist schools, the Civil Rights Movement, and more. ex fundie, ex-fundie, ex-sda, ellen white, end times, deconstruction, culture, ex-adventist, sda, agnostic, ex-christian, seventh-day adventist, adventist, racism, ex-fundamentalist, eschatology, ex fundamentalist, atheist, ex adventist, deconversion, ex sda, afterlife, empty the pews, religious trauma, exvangelical, ex christian, belief true full 14 2 9110e6e8-2b1c-4f68-a530-d208e34c13d5 S2:E13 - Rosei Quartz: Pastor's Kid turned Content Creator - Pt. 2 Support the Show • Part 2 of Santiago's interview with Rosei Quartz, a former Seventh-day Adventist pastor's kid, content creator, and Twitch streamer. In this episode, we cover more of Rosei's deconstruction, finding contentment and a new outlook on life, complementarianism, consent, mental health, becoming a content creator, and more.

Resources / Topics Mentioned: 
Links - Rosei Quartz's Links 
Podcast - Rosei Quartz's Podcast 
Topic - Complementarianism 
Topic - Attachment Styles 
Topic - Bill Gothard's "Umbrella of Protection" 
Reddit - ex-SDA comments on Gothard's Umbrella 
Topic - The FRIES Model of Consent 
Book - #ChurchToo: How Purity Culture Upholds Abuse and How to Find Healing 
Topic - Youth Wilderness / Troubled Teen Industry 
Topic - SWERF Definition 
Topic - BITE Model of Authoritarian Control 
Topic - Adventist GC "Human Sexuality Task Force" 
Podcast - S1B2 - Human Sexuality Task Force 
Topic - Weaponized Incompetence 
Podcast - The Dream (Examining MLMs)

00:00 Intro
00:17 Rosei's Deconstruction
05:16 Contentment and New Worldview
13:47 Complementarianism Hurts Everyone
20:36 Purity Culture & Consent
22:10 Journey into Online SW
28:10 Work is Work
32:27 Online SW vs. Traditional Work
36:33 SWERFs vs. Autonomy
45:04 Adventist Leadership
52:52 Advice for Leaving the Church
55:20 Where to Find Rosei 
57:22 Outro

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]]> Sat, 15 Jun 2024 12:00:00 +0000 haystacksnhell@gmail.com (Rosei Quartz, Santiago) https://haystacksnhell.com/ Support the Show • Part 2 of Santiago's interview with Rosei Quartz, a former Seventh-day Adventist pastor's kid, content creator, and Twitch streamer. In this episode, we cover more of Rosei's deconstruction, finding contentment and a new outlook on life, complementarianism, consent, mental health, becoming a content creator, and more.

Resources / Topics Mentioned: 
Links - Rosei Quartz's Links 
Podcast - Rosei Quartz's Podcast 
Topic - Complementarianism 
Topic - Attachment Styles 
Topic - Bill Gothard's "Umbrella of Protection" 
Reddit - ex-SDA comments on Gothard's Umbrella 
Topic - The FRIES Model of Consent 
Book - #ChurchToo: How Purity Culture Upholds Abuse and How to Find Healing 
Topic - Youth Wilderness / Troubled Teen Industry 
Topic - SWERF Definition 
Topic - BITE Model of Authoritarian Control 
Topic - Adventist GC "Human Sexuality Task Force" 
Podcast - S1B2 - Human Sexuality Task Force 
Topic - Weaponized Incompetence 
Podcast - The Dream (Examining MLMs)

00:00 Intro
00:17 Rosei's Deconstruction
05:16 Contentment and New Worldview
13:47 Complementarianism Hurts Everyone
20:36 Purity Culture & Consent
22:10 Journey into Online SW
28:10 Work is Work
32:27 Online SW vs. Traditional Work
36:33 SWERFs vs. Autonomy
45:04 Adventist Leadership
52:52 Advice for Leaving the Church
55:20 Where to Find Rosei 
57:22 Outro

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]]> S2:E13 - Rosei Quartz: Pastor's Kid turned Content Creator - Pt. 2 Rosei Quartz, Santiago 00:58:01 Part 2 of Santiago's interview with Rosei Quartz, a former Seventh-day Adventist pastor's kid, content creator, and Twitch streamer. In this episode, we cover more of Rosei's deconstruction, finding contentment and a new outlook on life, complementarianism, consent, mental health, becoming a content creator, and more. Part 2 of Santiago's interview with Rosei Quartz, a former Seventh-day Adventist pastor's kid, content creator, and Twitch streamer. In this episode, we cover more of Rosei's deconstruction, finding contentment and a new outlook on life, complementarianism, consent, mental health, becoming a content creator, and more. ex fundie, purity culture, ex-fundie, ex-sda, childhood, ellen white, deconstruction, ex-adventist, pastor's kid, health message, ex-christian, seventh-day adventist, adventist, ex-fundamentalist, ex fundamentalist, ex adventist, deconversion, ex sda, empty the pews, religious trauma, exvangelical, ex christian, belief true full 13 2 dc2e450d-9552-43fb-b2d5-43a8f5299cc6 S2:E12 - Rosei Quartz: Pastor's Kid turned Content Creator - Pt. 1 Support the Show • Santiago interviews Rosei Quartz, a former Seventh-day Adventist pastor's kid, content creator, and Twitch streamer. Rosei shares her Adventist upbringing, the pressures of parasocial relationships, and the high expectations placed upon her as a pastor’s kid. We cover her journey out of Adventism and how studying psychology played a big role.

Resources / Topics Mentioned: 
Links - Rosei Quartz's Links 
Podcast - Rosei Quartz's Podcast
Podcast - Armchair Expert - Cults (Rosei starts at 50:08)
Topic - Complementarianism
Book - #ChurchToo: How Purity Culture Upholds Abuse and How to Find Healing
Topic - LARPing
Topic - Startle Response
Topic - Cry Nights
Topic - Hypervigilance & Hyperawareness
Topic - Terror Management Theory
Topic - Thought-terminating cliché
Podcast - H&H S1:E4 - When Did You Learn About...
Playlist - Debunking Young Earth Creationism

00:00 Intro
00:13 Meet Rosei Quartz
01:17 SDA Family History & Early Memories
04:31 Sabbath Mornings
07:33 Pastor's Kid Pressures
17:48 Spiritual Manipulation & Content Creation
26:49 Health Message & Ellen White
30:28 "Spiritual Warfare" & Psychology
38:28 Terror Management Theory
41:55 Why Rosei Left Adventism
43:35 Harmful Beliefs & Pseudoscience
55:12 Crossing Ethical Boundaries
57:46 Ethics & Behavior Modification
1:00:37 High Demand Religion & Mental Health
1:05:11 Personal Growth Outside the Church
1:14:14 Outro

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]]> Sat, 8 Jun 2024 12:00:00 +0000 haystacksnhell@gmail.com (Rosei Quartz, Santiago) https://haystacksnhell.com/ Support the Show • Santiago interviews Rosei Quartz, a former Seventh-day Adventist pastor's kid, content creator, and Twitch streamer. Rosei shares her Adventist upbringing, the pressures of parasocial relationships, and the high expectations placed upon her as a pastor’s kid. We cover her journey out of Adventism and how studying psychology played a big role.

Resources / Topics Mentioned: 
Links - Rosei Quartz's Links 
Podcast - Rosei Quartz's Podcast
Podcast - Armchair Expert - Cults (Rosei starts at 50:08)
Topic - Complementarianism
Book - #ChurchToo: How Purity Culture Upholds Abuse and How to Find Healing
Topic - LARPing
Topic - Startle Response
Topic - Cry Nights
Topic - Hypervigilance & Hyperawareness
Topic - Terror Management Theory
Topic - Thought-terminating cliché
Podcast - H&H S1:E4 - When Did You Learn About...
Playlist - Debunking Young Earth Creationism

00:00 Intro
00:13 Meet Rosei Quartz
01:17 SDA Family History & Early Memories
04:31 Sabbath Mornings
07:33 Pastor's Kid Pressures
17:48 Spiritual Manipulation & Content Creation
26:49 Health Message & Ellen White
30:28 "Spiritual Warfare" & Psychology
38:28 Terror Management Theory
41:55 Why Rosei Left Adventism
43:35 Harmful Beliefs & Pseudoscience
55:12 Crossing Ethical Boundaries
57:46 Ethics & Behavior Modification
1:00:37 High Demand Religion & Mental Health
1:05:11 Personal Growth Outside the Church
1:14:14 Outro

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]]> S2:E12 - Rosei Quartz: Pastor's Kid turned Content Creator - Pt. 1 Rosei Quartz, Santiago 01:14:53 Santiago interviews Rosei Quartz, a former Seventh-day Adventist pastor's kid, content creator, and Twitch streamer. Rosei shares her Adventist upbringing, the pressures of parasocial relationships, and the high expectations placed upon her as a pastor’s kid. We cover her journey out of Adventism and how studying psychology played a big role. Santiago interviews Rosei Quartz, a former Seventh-day Adventist pastor's kid, content creator, and Twitch streamer. Rosei shares her Adventist upbringing, the pressures of parasocial relationships, and the high expectations placed upon her as a pastor’s kid. We cover her journey out of Adventism and how studying psychology played a big role. ex fundie, purity culture, ex-fundie, ex-sda, childhood, ellen white, deconstruction, ex-adventist, pastor's kid, health message, ex-christian, seventh-day adventist, adventist, ex-fundamentalist, ex fundamentalist, ex adventist, deconversion, ex sda, empty the pews, religious trauma, exvangelical, ex christian, belief true full 12 2 308a24e2-8115-4407-96b1-9e0c32185dee S2:E11 - Future of the Show + Listener Stories Support the Show • Santiago shares some personal news, updates on the future of the show, and listener stories.

Resources / Topics Mentioned:

Slate: Why Do We Give Our Pets Death With Dignity but Not Ourselves? 
S1:E2 - Do You Believe in an Afterlife?
More Listener Stories 
Podcast Resources 
Book Resources

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]]> Sat, 20 Apr 2024 12:19:17 +0000 haystacksnhell@gmail.com (Santiago) https://haystacksnhell.com/ Support the Show • Santiago shares some personal news, updates on the future of the show, and listener stories.

Resources / Topics Mentioned:

Slate: Why Do We Give Our Pets Death With Dignity but Not Ourselves? 
S1:E2 - Do You Believe in an Afterlife?
More Listener Stories 
Podcast Resources 
Book Resources

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]]> S2:E11 - Future of the Show + Listener Stories Santiago 00:45:24 Santiago shares some personal news, updates on the future of the show, and listener stories. Santiago shares some personal news, updates on the future of the show, and listener stories. ex fundie, ex-fundie, ex-sda, childhood, deconstruction, culture, ex-adventist, sda, seventh-day adventist, adventist, ex-fundamentalist, ex fundamentalist, ex adventist, deconversion, ex sda, exvangelical, belief, education true full 11 2 8cc76eb4-0d47-432f-a77a-c45d4858c165 S2:E10 - From Youth Rusher to Ex-Adventist - Pt. 2 Support the Show • Part 2 of Santiago's interview with Andres Pichinte (They/Them), a Gen Z ex-Adventist who went from fundamentalist Adventism and going door to door for two summers with Youth Rush, to exploring esotericism and now Orthodox Christianity. We discussed the sales tactics used by Youth Rush, the books they sold and beliefs they encountered, misadventures in door-to-door evangelism, and more.
 

Resources / Topics Mentioned:

Andres' Website & Bio 
Youth Rush Article - Spectrum Magazine

00:00 - Haystacks & Hell Intro
00:34 - Youth Rush Canvassing Sales Tactics
06:49 - Books and Beliefs
20:58 - Misadventures in Door-to-Door Evangelism
25:39 - From Fast Food to Film School
32:04 - Embracing Diversity and Finding Acceptance
37:28 - Exploring Orthodoxy
46:06 - Closing Thoughts
48:12 - Haystacks & Hell Outro

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]]> Sun, 31 Mar 2024 12:00:00 +0000 haystacksnhell@gmail.com (Santiago, Andres Pichinte) https://haystacksnhell.com/ Support the Show • Part 2 of Santiago's interview with Andres Pichinte (They/Them), a Gen Z ex-Adventist who went from fundamentalist Adventism and going door to door for two summers with Youth Rush, to exploring esotericism and now Orthodox Christianity. We discussed the sales tactics used by Youth Rush, the books they sold and beliefs they encountered, misadventures in door-to-door evangelism, and more.
 

Resources / Topics Mentioned:

Andres' Website & Bio 
Youth Rush Article - Spectrum Magazine

00:00 - Haystacks & Hell Intro
00:34 - Youth Rush Canvassing Sales Tactics
06:49 - Books and Beliefs
20:58 - Misadventures in Door-to-Door Evangelism
25:39 - From Fast Food to Film School
32:04 - Embracing Diversity and Finding Acceptance
37:28 - Exploring Orthodoxy
46:06 - Closing Thoughts
48:12 - Haystacks & Hell Outro

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]]> S2:E10 - From Youth Rusher to Ex-Adventist - Pt. 2 Santiago, Andres Pichinte 00:48:52 Part 2 of Santiago's interview with Andres Pichinte (They/Them), a Gen Z ex-Adventist who went from fundamentalist Adventism and going door to door for Youth Rush (for two summers), to exploring esotericism and now Orthodox Christianity. We talk about growing up Adventist, being surrounded by conspiracy theories, and moments that made them question their Adventist faith. Part 2 of Santiago's interview with Andres Pichinte (They/Them), a Gen Z ex-Adventist who went from fundamentalist Adventism and going door to door for Youth Rush (for two summers), to exploring esotericism and now Orthodox Christianity. We talk about growing up Adventist, being surrounded by conspiracy theories, and moments that made them question their Adventist faith. ex fundie, purity culture, ex-fundie, ex-sda, lgbtq, childhood, ellen white, lgbt, end times, deconstruction, culture, youth rush, ex-adventist, faithfully lgbt, sda, music, seventh-day adventist, adventist, ex-fundamentalist, eschatology, ex fundamentalist, ex adventist, deconversion, ex sda, exvangelical, belief, education true full 10 2 fa5e8f30-80e3-4ed9-9c2d-95819df1aa33 S2:E9 - From Youth Rusher to Ex-Adventist - Pt. 1 Support the Dunk Family • Support the Show 
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Santiago interviews Andres Pichinte (They/Them), a Gen Z ex-Adventist who went from fundamentalist Adventism and going door to door for Youth Rush (for two summers), to exploring esotericism and now Orthodox Christianity. We talk about growing up Adventist, being surrounded by conspiracy theories, and moments that made them question their Adventist faith.

Resources / Topics Mentioned: 
Andres' Website & Bio 
The Hairbrush Song - Silly Songs with Larry 
His Cheeseburger - Love Songs with Mr. Lunt 
Youth Rush Article - Spectrum Magazine

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]]> Sat, 9 Dec 2023 15:55:20 +0000 haystacksnhell@gmail.com (Andres Pichinte, Santiago) https://haystacksnhell.com/ Support the Dunk Family • Support the Show 
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Santiago interviews Andres Pichinte (They/Them), a Gen Z ex-Adventist who went from fundamentalist Adventism and going door to door for Youth Rush (for two summers), to exploring esotericism and now Orthodox Christianity. We talk about growing up Adventist, being surrounded by conspiracy theories, and moments that made them question their Adventist faith.

Resources / Topics Mentioned: 
Andres' Website & Bio 
The Hairbrush Song - Silly Songs with Larry 
His Cheeseburger - Love Songs with Mr. Lunt 
Youth Rush Article - Spectrum Magazine

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]]> S2:E9 - From Youth Rusher to Ex-Adventist - Pt. 1 Andres Pichinte, Santiago 01:04:03 Santiago interviews Andres Pichinte (They/Them), a Gen Z ex-Adventist who went from fundamentalist Adventism and going door to door for Youth Rush (for two summers), to exploring esotericism and now Orthodox Christianity. We talk about growing up Adventist, being surrounded by conspiracy theories, and moments that made them question their Adventist faith. Santiago interviews Andres Pichinte (They/Them), a Gen Z ex-Adventist who went from fundamentalist Adventism and going door to door for Youth Rush (for two summers), to exploring esotericism and now Orthodox Christianity. We talk about growing up Adventist, being surrounded by conspiracy theories, and moments that made them question their Adventist faith. ex fundie, purity culture, ex-fundie, ex-sda, lgbtq, childhood, ellen white, lgbt, end times, deconstruction, culture, youth rush, ex-adventist, faithfully lgbt, sda, music, seventh-day adventist, adventist, ex-fundamentalist, eschatology, ex fundamentalist, ex adventist, deconversion, ex sda, exvangelical, belief, education true full 9 2 45ca81a4-6e7d-4686-b3d1-a36f719808ec S2:E8 - Charli: Escaping her Adoptive SDA Parents - Pt. 3 Support the Dunk Family • Support the Show 
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3rd and final part of Santiago's interview with Charlotte Hayes (Charli), a Gen-Z ex-Adventist. After escaping her abusive home, Charli discovered she didn't have proof of her U.S. citizenship, so she had to get a green card and worried about possibly being deported. We also discussed her journey of healing and leaving the faith she grew up in.

Charli's Links: 
TikTok @charli.hayes 
Instagram @charlihayes_ 
YouTube @charlihayes_

Resources / Topics Mentioned: 
Maskrosbarn ("Dandelion Child") 
Mental Health and Therapist Resources

Support for Victims of Abuse: 
RAINN - National Sexual Assault Hotline 
Childhelp - National Child Abuse Hotline 
The Hotline - National Domestic Violence Hotline

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]]> Sat, 18 Nov 2023 13:00:00 +0000 haystacksnhell@gmail.com (Santiago, Charlotte Hayes (Charli)) https://haystacksnhell.com/ Support the Dunk Family • Support the Show 
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3rd and final part of Santiago's interview with Charlotte Hayes (Charli), a Gen-Z ex-Adventist. After escaping her abusive home, Charli discovered she didn't have proof of her U.S. citizenship, so she had to get a green card and worried about possibly being deported. We also discussed her journey of healing and leaving the faith she grew up in.

Charli's Links: 
TikTok @charli.hayes 
Instagram @charlihayes_ 
YouTube @charlihayes_

Resources / Topics Mentioned: 
Maskrosbarn ("Dandelion Child") 
Mental Health and Therapist Resources

Support for Victims of Abuse: 
RAINN - National Sexual Assault Hotline 
Childhelp - National Child Abuse Hotline 
The Hotline - National Domestic Violence Hotline

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]]> S2:E8 - Charli: Escaping her Adoptive SDA Parents - Pt. 3 Santiago, Charlotte Hayes (Charli) 00:50:15 3rd and final part of Santiago's interview with Charlotte Hayes (Charli), a Gen-Z ex-Adventist. After escaping her abusive home, Charli discovered she didn't have proof of her U.S. citizenship, so she had to get a green card and worried about possibly being deported. We also discussed her journey of healing and leaving the faith she grew up in. 3rd and final part of Santiago's interview with Charlotte Hayes (Charli), a Gen-Z ex-Adventist. After escaping her abusive home, Charli discovered she didn't have proof of her U.S. citizenship, so she had to get a green card and worried about possibly being deported. We also discussed her journey of healing and leaving the faith she grew up in. ex fundie, purity culture, ex-fundie, ex-sda, adventist abuse, deconstruction, ex-adventist, agnostic, ex-christian, adventist, ex-fundamentalist, ex fundamentalist, ex adventist, deconversion, ex sda, religious trauma, abuse, exvangelical, abuse survivor, ex christian, belief true full 8 2 148e4e0a-6598-427d-9983-26bb9e9859e3 S2:E7 - Charli: Escaping her Adoptive SDA Parents - Pt. 2 Support the Dunk Family • Support the Show
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Part 2 of Santiago's interview with Charlotte Hayes (Charli), a Gen-Z ex-Adventist. She was adopted from Russia and brought to the U.S. as a baby by an Adventist couple. Growing up, Charli experienced horrific things at home. The police and Child Protective Services investigated, but nothing happened, so she ran away from home at 18. She now has over 500k people on TikTok who have been following her life story.

Charli's Links: 
TikTok @charli.hayes 
Instagram @charlihayes_ 
YouTube @charlihayes_

Resources / Topics Mentioned:  
Little Duck Diner - Savannah, GA 
Hostel in the Forest - Brunswick, GA 
Hostelworld - Find hostels around the world

Support for Victims of Abuse: 
RAINN - National Sexual Assault Hotline 
Childhelp - National Child Abuse Hotline 
The Hotline - National Domestic Violence Hotline

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]]> Sun, 12 Nov 2023 13:00:00 +0000 haystacksnhell@gmail.com (Santiago, Charlotte Hayes (Charli)) https://haystacksnhell.com/ Support the Dunk Family • Support the Show
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Part 2 of Santiago's interview with Charlotte Hayes (Charli), a Gen-Z ex-Adventist. She was adopted from Russia and brought to the U.S. as a baby by an Adventist couple. Growing up, Charli experienced horrific things at home. The police and Child Protective Services investigated, but nothing happened, so she ran away from home at 18. She now has over 500k people on TikTok who have been following her life story.

Charli's Links: 
TikTok @charli.hayes 
Instagram @charlihayes_ 
YouTube @charlihayes_

Resources / Topics Mentioned:  
Little Duck Diner - Savannah, GA 
Hostel in the Forest - Brunswick, GA 
Hostelworld - Find hostels around the world

Support for Victims of Abuse: 
RAINN - National Sexual Assault Hotline 
Childhelp - National Child Abuse Hotline 
The Hotline - National Domestic Violence Hotline

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]]> S2:E7 - Charli: Escaping her Adoptive SDA Parents - Pt. 2 Santiago, Charlotte Hayes (Charli) 01:03:44 Part 2 of Santiago's interview with Charlotte Hayes (Charli), a Gen-Z ex-Adventist. She was adopted from Russia and brought to the U.S. as a baby by an Adventist couple. Growing up, Charli experienced horrific things at home. The police and Child Protective Services investigated, but nothing happened, so she ran away from home at 18. She now has over 500k people on TikTok who have been following her life story. Part 2 of Santiago's interview with Charlotte Hayes (Charli), a Gen-Z ex-Adventist. She was adopted from Russia and brought to the U.S. as a baby by an Adventist couple. Growing up, Charli experienced horrific things at home. The police and Child Protective Services investigated, but nothing happened, so she ran away from home at 18. She now has over 500k people on TikTok who have been following her life story. ex fundie, purity culture, ex-fundie, ex-sda, adventist abuse, deconstruction, ex-adventist, agnostic, ex-christian, adventist, ex-fundamentalist, ex fundamentalist, ex adventist, deconversion, ex sda, religious trauma, abuse, exvangelical, abuse survivor, ex christian, belief true full 7 2 360b165a-bdb2-4e42-a0df-be48a7ec6a41 S2:E6 - Charli: Escaping her Adoptive SDA Parents - Pt. 1 Support the Dunk Family • Support the Show 
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Santiago interviews Charlotte Hayes (Charli), a Gen-Z ex-Adventist. She was adopted from Russia and brought to the U.S. as a baby by an Adventist couple. Growing up, Charli experienced emotional, physical, and sexual abuse at home. The police and Child Protective Services investigated, but nothing happened, so she ran away from home at 18. She now has over 500k people on TikTok who have been following her life story.

Charli's Links: 
TikTok @charli.hayes 
Instagram @charlihayes_ 
YouTube @charlihayes_

Resources / Topics Mentioned: 
VeggieTales - Jericho Slushies 
Battle (Genocide) of Jericho - Wikipedia 
IBLP - Wikipeda 
Shiny Happy People: Duggar Family Secrets 
Alisa Williams' Thread on SDAs & Shiny Happy People
Katie Morton - Licensed Therapist, YouTuber 
Religious Trauma-informed Therapists & Other Resources

Support for Victims of Abuse: 
RAINN - National Sexual Assault Hotline 
Childhelp - National Child Abuse Hotline 
The Hotline - National Domestic Violence Hotline

Kati Morton Videos: 
Abuse Topic Playlist 
Sexual Abuse: How do we recover & how long does it take? 
What is Consent, Assault & Harassment? 
What's considered sexual abuse? 
Struggling with childhood sexual abuse? 
Healing from Sexual Abuse & Incest

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]]> Sat, 4 Nov 2023 12:00:00 +0000 haystacksnhell@gmail.com (Charlotte Hayes (Charli), Santiago) https://haystacksnhell.com/ Support the Dunk Family • Support the Show 
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Santiago interviews Charlotte Hayes (Charli), a Gen-Z ex-Adventist. She was adopted from Russia and brought to the U.S. as a baby by an Adventist couple. Growing up, Charli experienced emotional, physical, and sexual abuse at home. The police and Child Protective Services investigated, but nothing happened, so she ran away from home at 18. She now has over 500k people on TikTok who have been following her life story.

Charli's Links: 
TikTok @charli.hayes 
Instagram @charlihayes_ 
YouTube @charlihayes_

Resources / Topics Mentioned: 
VeggieTales - Jericho Slushies 
Battle (Genocide) of Jericho - Wikipedia 
IBLP - Wikipeda 
Shiny Happy People: Duggar Family Secrets 
Alisa Williams' Thread on SDAs & Shiny Happy People
Katie Morton - Licensed Therapist, YouTuber 
Religious Trauma-informed Therapists & Other Resources

Support for Victims of Abuse: 
RAINN - National Sexual Assault Hotline 
Childhelp - National Child Abuse Hotline 
The Hotline - National Domestic Violence Hotline

Kati Morton Videos: 
Abuse Topic Playlist 
Sexual Abuse: How do we recover & how long does it take? 
What is Consent, Assault & Harassment? 
What's considered sexual abuse? 
Struggling with childhood sexual abuse? 
Healing from Sexual Abuse & Incest

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]]> S2:E6 - Charli: Escaping her Adoptive SDA Parents - Pt. 1 Charlotte Hayes (Charli), Santiago 01:50:38 Santiago interviews Charlotte Hayes (Charli), a Gen-Z ex-Adventist. She was adopted from Russia and brought to the U.S. as a baby by an Adventist couple. Growing up, Charli experienced emotional, physical, and sexual abuse at home. The police and Child Protective Services investigated, but nothing happened, so she ran away from home at 18. She now has over 500k people on TikTok who have been following her life story. Santiago interviews Charlotte Hayes (Charli), a Gen-Z ex-Adventist. She was adopted from Russia and brought to the U.S. as a baby by an Adventist couple. Growing up, Charli experienced emotional, physical, and sexual abuse at home. The police and Child Protective Services investigated, but nothing happened, so she ran away from home at 18. She now has over 500k people on TikTok who have been following her life story. ex fundie, purity culture, ex-fundie, ex-sda, adventist abuse, deconstruction, ex-adventist, agnostic, ex-christian, adventist, ex-fundamentalist, ex fundamentalist, ex adventist, deconversion, ex sda, religious trauma, abuse, exvangelical, abuse survivor, ex christian, belief true full 6 2 76bc2788-d61e-4c19-85d5-009d11d9e354 S2:E5 - Adventist "Halloween" or Nah? Support the Dunk Family • Support the Show 
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Santiago and Saoirse discuss their very different childhood experiences with Halloween and read some stories from the ex-Adventist subreddit. Abby, Ami, and friends talk around a bonfire (bone fire?) about their experiences with Halloween. That last part of the episode is a little loud, but there's some fun stuff if you're patient.

Topics Mentioned: 
Scared Straight | Hell House - How Gay Thou Art Podcast 
The Addams Family - Wikipedia 
Wednesday (Netflix Show) 
The Addams Family (1991 Film) 
Addams Family Values (1993 Film) 
Beetlejuice (1988 Film) 
Killer Klowns From Outer Space (1988 Film)

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]]> Sat, 28 Oct 2023 12:00:06 +0000 haystacksnhell@gmail.com (Saoirse, Santiago) https://haystacksnhell.com/ Support the Dunk Family • Support the Show 
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Santiago and Saoirse discuss their very different childhood experiences with Halloween and read some stories from the ex-Adventist subreddit. Abby, Ami, and friends talk around a bonfire (bone fire?) about their experiences with Halloween. That last part of the episode is a little loud, but there's some fun stuff if you're patient.

Topics Mentioned: 
Scared Straight | Hell House - How Gay Thou Art Podcast 
The Addams Family - Wikipedia 
Wednesday (Netflix Show) 
The Addams Family (1991 Film) 
Addams Family Values (1993 Film) 
Beetlejuice (1988 Film) 
Killer Klowns From Outer Space (1988 Film)

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]]> S2:E5 - Adventist "Halloween" or Nah? Saoirse, Santiago 01:06:52 Santiago and Saoirse discuss their very different childhood experiences with Halloween and read some stories from the ex-Adventist subreddit. Abby, Ami, and friends talk around a bonfire (bone fire?) about their experiences with Halloween. That last part of the episode is a little loud, but there's some fun stuff if you're patient. Santiago and Saoirse discuss their very different childhood experiences with Halloween and read some stories from the ex-Adventist subreddit. Abby, Ami, and friends talk around a bonfire (bone fire?) about their experiences with Halloween. That last part of the episode is a little loud, but there's some fun stuff if you're patient. ex fundie, ex-fundie, ex-sda, childhood, deconstruction, culture, ex-adventist, sda, agnostic, ex-christian, seventh-day adventist, adventist, ex-fundamentalist, ex fundamentalist, atheist, ex adventist, deconversion, ex sda, halloween, exvangelical, ex christian true full 5 2 6ed1154a-b042-4322-b662-ed1e7ff16ba9 S2:E4 - Meet Will: ex-SDA Husband, Dad, Lawyer - Pt. 2 Support the Dunk Family • Support the Show 
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Part 2 of 2: Santiago interviews Will James, an ex-Adventist husband, dad, lawyer, and TikToker based in the U.S. state of Oklahoma. We discuss writing wills for SDA church members, Will's deconstruction from Adventism, telling his parents, and navigating his own parental responsibilities after deconstructing at just the right moment.

Topics Mentioned: 
Will's Law Practice Website 
Will's TikTok (@will.i.jam) 
Ada Lois Sipuel Fisher 
Iyanla Vanzant "The past is present" 
Rachel Held Evans (Author) 
Peter Ennes (Author) 
Non-binary Gender 
Singular They 
Left-handedness

Other Episodes Mentioned: 
Melissa Duge Spiers Interview (S1E10 - Part 1) 
Melissa Duge Spiers Interview (S1E11 - Part 2) 

Matthew Vollmer Interview (S1E16 - Part 1) 
Matthew Vollmer Interview (S1E17 - Part 2) 

Race, Slavery, and Racism in Christianity and Adventism (S1E19) 
The Amalgamation of Man and Beast!? (S1E20)

Adventist Estate Stories: 
Bahamian Family Alleges $30 Million Fraud Involving 3ABN 
SDA Church Stealing Estates 
Grandma’s money went to 3ABN

Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes 
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Part 2 of 2: Santiago interviews Will James, an ex-Adventist husband, dad, lawyer, and TikToker based in the U.S. state of Oklahoma. We discuss writing wills for SDA church members, Will's deconstruction from Adventism, telling his parents, and navigating his own parental responsibilities after deconstructing at just the right moment.

Topics Mentioned: 
Will's Law Practice Website 
Will's TikTok (@will.i.jam) 
Ada Lois Sipuel Fisher 
Iyanla Vanzant "The past is present" 
Rachel Held Evans (Author) 
Peter Ennes (Author) 
Non-binary Gender 
Singular They 
Left-handedness

Other Episodes Mentioned: 
Melissa Duge Spiers Interview (S1E10 - Part 1) 
Melissa Duge Spiers Interview (S1E11 - Part 2) 

Matthew Vollmer Interview (S1E16 - Part 1) 
Matthew Vollmer Interview (S1E17 - Part 2) 

Race, Slavery, and Racism in Christianity and Adventism (S1E19) 
The Amalgamation of Man and Beast!? (S1E20)

Adventist Estate Stories: 
Bahamian Family Alleges $30 Million Fraud Involving 3ABN 
SDA Church Stealing Estates 
Grandma’s money went to 3ABN

Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes 
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]]> S2:E4 - Meet Will: ex-SDA Husband, Dad, Lawyer - Pt. 2 Santiago, Will James 01:40:01 Part 2 of 2: Santiago interviews Will James, an ex-Adventist husband, dad, lawyer, and TikToker based in the U.S. state of Oklahoma. We discuss writing wills for SDA church members, Will's deconstruction from Adventism, telling his parents, and navigating his own parental responsibilities, having deconstructed at just the right moment. Part 2 of 2: Santiago interviews Will James, an ex-Adventist husband, dad, lawyer, and TikToker based in the U.S. state of Oklahoma. We discuss writing wills for SDA church members, Will's deconstruction from Adventism, telling his parents, and navigating his own parental responsibilities, having deconstructed at just the right moment. ex fundie, ex-fundie, ex-sda, ellen white, hell, end times, deconstruction, culture, amalgamation, ex-adventist, sda, agnostic, ex-christian, seventh-day adventist, adventist, racism, ex-fundamentalist, eschatology, ex fundamentalist, atheist, ex adventist, deconversion, ex sda, afterlife, empty the pews, religious trauma, exvangelical, ex christian, belief true full 4 2 066cb289-9852-424b-9f1c-494c261e0674 S2:E3 - Meet Will: ex-SDA Husband, Dad, Lawyer - Pt. 1 Support the Dunk Family • Support the Show 
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Part 1 of 2: Santiago interviews Will James, an ex-Adventist husband, dad, lawyer, and TikToker based in the U.S. state of Oklahoma. We discuss his parents' conversion to Adventism (along with 30 of their friends?!) when he was two years old. Will grew up with a very literal interpretation of the Bible and Ellen White's writings, and eventually deconstructed everything. 
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Topics Mentioned: 
Will's TikTok (@will.i.jam)
Oh No, Ross and Carrie - Amazing Facts Series 
David Steward Amazing Facts Profile 
Will's Blog - Broken Plates and Baptisms 
Inception (Movie)

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]]> Sat, 14 Oct 2023 12:00:00 +0000 haystacksnhell@gmail.com (Will James, Santiago) https://haystacksnhell.com/ Support the Dunk Family • Support the Show 
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Part 1 of 2: Santiago interviews Will James, an ex-Adventist husband, dad, lawyer, and TikToker based in the U.S. state of Oklahoma. We discuss his parents' conversion to Adventism (along with 30 of their friends?!) when he was two years old. Will grew up with a very literal interpretation of the Bible and Ellen White's writings, and eventually deconstructed everything. 
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Topics Mentioned: 
Will's TikTok (@will.i.jam)
Oh No, Ross and Carrie - Amazing Facts Series 
David Steward Amazing Facts Profile 
Will's Blog - Broken Plates and Baptisms 
Inception (Movie)

Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes 
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]]> S2:E3 - Meet Will: ex-SDA Husband, Dad, Lawyer - Pt. 1 Will James, Santiago 00:57:46 Part 1 of 2: Santiago interviews Will James, an ex-Adventist husband, dad, lawyer, and TikToker based in the U.S. state of Oklahoma. We discuss his parents' conversion to Adventism (along with 30 of their friends?!) when he was two years old. Will grew up with a very literal interpretation of the Bible and Ellen White's writings, and eventually deconstructed everything. Part 1 of 2: Santiago interviews Will James, an ex-Adventist husband, dad, lawyer, and TikToker based in the U.S. state of Oklahoma. We discuss his parents' conversion to Adventism (along with 30 of their friends?!) when he was two years old. Will grew up with a very literal interpretation of the Bible and Ellen White's writings, and eventually deconstructed everything. ex fundie, ex-fundie, ex-sda, ellen white, hell, end times, deconstruction, culture, amalgamation, ex-adventist, sda, agnostic, ex-christian, seventh-day adventist, adventist, racism, ex-fundamentalist, eschatology, ex fundamentalist, atheist, ex adventist, deconversion, ex sda, afterlife, empty the pews, religious trauma, exvangelical, ex christian, belief true full 3 2 483ee07c-df4e-4f45-9f6e-bc31c9b9e114 S2:E2 - From SDA Student Missionary to Agnostic: Morgan Clae Support the Show • Support on Patreon 
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Santiago interviews Morgan Clae, an ex-Adventist director, producer, and singer-songwriter based in Los Angeles. We discuss purity culture, her time at Walla Walla University, being a student missionary, deconstruction, and becoming agnostic. We also explore the meaning behind the lyrics of Wilder Things, Morgan's song on deconstruction and coming out.

Morgan's Links: 
Morgan Clae Linktree 
YouTube 
Spotify 
TikTok

Morgan's Music Mentioned: 
Stay (Music Video) 
Wilder Things 
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Resources & Topics Mentioned: 
Born Again Again Podcast 
exAdventist Subreddit 
The Greatest Showman 
Jesus and John Wayne 
Conservatives are upset their kids don’t want to spend Christmas with them

Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes

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Santiago interviews Morgan Clae, an ex-Adventist director, producer, and singer-songwriter based in Los Angeles. We discuss purity culture, her time at Walla Walla University, being a student missionary, deconstruction, and becoming agnostic. We also explore the meaning behind the lyrics of Wilder Things, Morgan's song on deconstruction and coming out.

Morgan's Links: 
Morgan Clae Linktree 
YouTube 
Spotify 
TikTok

Morgan's Music Mentioned: 
Stay (Music Video) 
Wilder Things 
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Resources & Topics Mentioned: 
Born Again Again Podcast 
exAdventist Subreddit 
The Greatest Showman 
Jesus and John Wayne 
Conservatives are upset their kids don’t want to spend Christmas with them

Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes

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]]> S2:E2 - From SDA Student Missionary to Agnostic: Morgan Clae Morgan Clae, Santiago 02:06:03 Santiago interviews Morgan Clae, an ex-Adventist director, producer, and singer-songwriter based in Los Angeles. We discuss purity culture, her time at Walla Walla University, being a student missionary, deconstruction, and becoming agnostic. We also explore the meaning behind the lyrics of Wilder Things, Morgan's song on deconstruction and coming out. Santiago interviews Morgan Clae, an ex-Adventist director, producer, and singer-songwriter based in Los Angeles. We discuss purity culture, her time at Walla Walla University, being a student missionary, deconstruction, and becoming agnostic. We also explore the meaning behind the lyrics of Wilder Things, Morgan's song on deconstruction and coming out. ex fundie, purity culture, ex-fundie, ex-sda, lgbtq, lgbt, deconstruction, ex-adventist, sda, agnostic, ex-christian, seventh-day adventist, adventist, ex-fundamentalist, ex fundamentalist, ex adventist, deconversion, ex sda, empty the pews, religious trauma, exvangelical, ex christian, belief true full 2 2 b6672c6b-a667-40d4-85e2-2c95b09b1396 S2:E1 - Meet Erika: ex-SDA Teacher, Mom, Survivor of Abuse Support the Show • Support on Patreon 
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Santiago interviews Erika Miller, an ex-SDA teacher, mom, and survivor of abuse. As a young child, Erika was abused by a deacon's son at her home church. She shares her amazing story of resilience, attending Newbold College in the UK, and eventually leaving the Adventist church.

Resources Mentioned: 
Erika's email: swimlass [at] gmail.com 
Therapists and Mental Health Resources 
Unbelievable - Netflix Show 

The Netflix show linked above is not about Erika's story, but it's linked here as we briefly discussed Erika’s desire to go into law (timecode 44:32). She was discouraged by her parents, who said the legal profession isn't suitable for a Christian woman. I mentioned the show because it’s based on a true story of a serial r*pist who got away with his crimes in part by committing them in different cities or counties, and the police departments didn’t share any information with each other.

The show centers on a woman who was the most recent victim and spoke to the police, but the two male detectives who questioned her didn’t believe her and ultimately gaslit her into recanting her testimony. It wasn’t until a female detective began noticing a pattern and believed the victim that they finally were able to put the pieces together and catch the r*pist.

The show is relevant because it illustrates how discouraging women from entering certain professions has put us at a disadvantage, and why listening to victims is incredibly important.

Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/S2E1

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]]> Sat, 30 Sep 2023 12:00:00 +0000 haystacksnhell@gmail.com (Erika Miller, Santiago) https://haystacksnhell.com/podcast/meet-erika-ex-sda-teacher-mom-survivor-of-abuse Support the Show • Support on Patreon 
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Santiago interviews Erika Miller, an ex-SDA teacher, mom, and survivor of abuse. As a young child, Erika was abused by a deacon's son at her home church. She shares her amazing story of resilience, attending Newbold College in the UK, and eventually leaving the Adventist church.

Resources Mentioned: 
Erika's email: swimlass [at] gmail.com 
Therapists and Mental Health Resources 
Unbelievable - Netflix Show 

The Netflix show linked above is not about Erika's story, but it's linked here as we briefly discussed Erika’s desire to go into law (timecode 44:32). She was discouraged by her parents, who said the legal profession isn't suitable for a Christian woman. I mentioned the show because it’s based on a true story of a serial r*pist who got away with his crimes in part by committing them in different cities or counties, and the police departments didn’t share any information with each other.

The show centers on a woman who was the most recent victim and spoke to the police, but the two male detectives who questioned her didn’t believe her and ultimately gaslit her into recanting her testimony. It wasn’t until a female detective began noticing a pattern and believed the victim that they finally were able to put the pieces together and catch the r*pist.

The show is relevant because it illustrates how discouraging women from entering certain professions has put us at a disadvantage, and why listening to victims is incredibly important.

Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/S2E1

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]]> S2:E1 - Meet Erika: ex-SDA Teacher, Mom, Survivor of Abuse Erika Miller, Santiago 01:36:23 Santiago interviews Erika Miller, an ex-SDA teacher, mom, and survivor of abuse. As a young child, Erika was abused by a deacon's son at her home church. She shares her amazing story of resilience, attending Newbold College in the UK, and eventually leaving the Adventist church. Santiago interviews Erika Miller, an ex-SDA teacher, mom, and survivor of abuse. As a young child, Erika was abused by a deacon's son at her home church. She shares her amazing story of resilience, attending Newbold College in the UK, and eventually leaving the Adventist church. ex fundie, purity culture, ex-fundie, ex-sda, dating, adventist abuse, childhood, sex, ellen white, deconstruction, culture, ex-adventist, sda, agnostic, sex ed, ex-christian, seventh-day adventist, adventist, ex-fundamentalist, ex fundamentalist, atheist, ex adventist, deconversion, ex sda, empty the pews, religious trauma, abuse, exvangelical, sex education, abuse survivor, ex christian, belief, education true full 1 2 9f690fcf-3ce4-4b8e-b1ef-4d4c18f030c9 S1:E20 - The Amalgamation of Man and Beast!? Season 1 Finale Support the Show • Support on Patreon 
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For the final episode of Season 1,  Santiago does a deep dive on the "amalgamation" quotes. Abby and Ami talk about bigotry in the Seventh-Day Adventist church and particularly in the southern United States culture of the church. The conversation covers racism, homophobia, dating, trans issues, segregated conferences, and "the amalgamation of man and beast."

Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes

Sources Mentioned:

2021 Poll: 94% of Americans Approve of Interracial Marriage

"Base Crime" Definition from 1858 Dictionary

Racist book from 1867: The Negro, what is his ethnological status?

Uriah Smith's Defense of Ellen White's Amalgamation Quotes

James White promoting Uriah Smith's Book

Adventist Responses:

Adventist Today - Was Ellen White an Infallible Theologian?

Dr. Benjamin Baker - Ellen White on Amalgamation

Terrie Aamodt (59:00), Benjamin Baker (1:32:30) on Amalgamation

Ellen White Estate - Amalgamation by Francis D. Nichol

Tunkhannock SDA Church on Amalgamation 
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For the final episode of Season 1,  Santiago does a deep dive on the "amalgamation" quotes. Abby and Ami talk about bigotry in the Seventh-Day Adventist church and particularly in the southern United States culture of the church. The conversation covers racism, homophobia, dating, trans issues, segregated conferences, and "the amalgamation of man and beast."

Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes

Sources Mentioned:

2021 Poll: 94% of Americans Approve of Interracial Marriage

"Base Crime" Definition from 1858 Dictionary

Racist book from 1867: The Negro, what is his ethnological status?

Uriah Smith's Defense of Ellen White's Amalgamation Quotes

James White promoting Uriah Smith's Book

Adventist Responses:

Adventist Today - Was Ellen White an Infallible Theologian?

Dr. Benjamin Baker - Ellen White on Amalgamation

Terrie Aamodt (59:00), Benjamin Baker (1:32:30) on Amalgamation

Ellen White Estate - Amalgamation by Francis D. Nichol

Tunkhannock SDA Church on Amalgamation 
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]]> S1:E20 - The Amalgamation of Man and Beast!? Season 1 Finale Ami, Santiago, Abby 01:14:31 For the final episode of Season 1, Santiago does a deep dive on the "amalgamation" quotes. Abby and Ami talk about bigotry in the Seventh-Day Adventist church and particularly in the southern United States culture of the church. The conversation covers racism, homophobia, dating, trans issues, segregated conferences, and "the amalgamation of man and beast." For the final episode of Season 1, Santiago does a deep dive on the "amalgamation" quotes. Abby and Ami talk about bigotry in the Seventh-Day Adventist church and particularly in the southern United States culture of the church. The conversation covers racism, homophobia, dating, trans issues, segregated conferences, and "the amalgamation of man and beast." ex fundie, ex-fundie, ex-sda, ellen white, deconstruction, culture, amalgamation, ex-adventist, bigotry, sda, jesus, agnostic, ex-christian, seventh-day adventist, adventist, racism, ex-fundamentalist, ex fundamentalist, atheist, ex adventist, deconversion, ex sda, exvangelical, ex christian, belief true full 20 1 a27c49f3-5cf8-41f3-99de-eca840d88719 S1:E19 - Race, Slavery, and Racism in Christianity and Adventism Support the Show • Support on Patreon 
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Santiago covers a brief history of race, slavery, and racism in the context of Christianity and Adventism. We look at the Bible, Ellen White's writings, and the history of how the Adventist church created a segregated conference system in the United States. Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes

Race, Pseudoscience, and Science

Adam Hochman - Is ‘race’ modern?

Gregory Slack - The Medieval Origins of 'Race'

Historical origins of racial classification

Limpieza de sangre

Scientific Racism

National Academies - Stop using race

Did Evolutionary Theory Cause Genocide?

Charles Darwin on Racism, Slavery, and Eugenics


Racism within Christianity and Adventism

Christian views on slavery

Christian abolitionism

'The Curse of Ham': Slavery and the Old Testament

German and Austrian churches apologize for Holocaust actions

Adventism’s White Supremacy

Why are there Regional Conferences?

Protest & Progress Speech - Dr. Calvin B. Rock

A House on Fire Panel Discussion

​James Kemuel Humphrey

Byard, Lucille (1877–1943)


Reparations

Reparations for slavery in the United States

The Truth Behind ’40 Acres and a Mule’

Forty acres and a mule

Ellen White on Reparations


Recommended Reading

A House on Fire

Protest & Progress

Seventh-day Adventists and the Civil Rights Movement

How to Be an Antiracist

How to Raise an Antiracist

How to Be a (Young) Antiracist

Antiracist Baby

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Santiago covers a brief history of race, slavery, and racism in the context of Christianity and Adventism. We look at the Bible, Ellen White's writings, and the history of how the Adventist church created a segregated conference system in the United States. Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes

Race, Pseudoscience, and Science

Adam Hochman - Is ‘race’ modern?

Gregory Slack - The Medieval Origins of 'Race'

Historical origins of racial classification

Limpieza de sangre

Scientific Racism

National Academies - Stop using race

Did Evolutionary Theory Cause Genocide?

Charles Darwin on Racism, Slavery, and Eugenics


Racism within Christianity and Adventism

Christian views on slavery

Christian abolitionism

'The Curse of Ham': Slavery and the Old Testament

German and Austrian churches apologize for Holocaust actions

Adventism’s White Supremacy

Why are there Regional Conferences?

Protest & Progress Speech - Dr. Calvin B. Rock

A House on Fire Panel Discussion

​James Kemuel Humphrey

Byard, Lucille (1877–1943)


Reparations

Reparations for slavery in the United States

The Truth Behind ’40 Acres and a Mule’

Forty acres and a mule

Ellen White on Reparations


Recommended Reading

A House on Fire

Protest & Progress

Seventh-day Adventists and the Civil Rights Movement

How to Be an Antiracist

How to Raise an Antiracist

How to Be a (Young) Antiracist

Antiracist Baby

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]]> S1:E19 - Race, Slavery, and Racism in Christianity and Adventism Santiago 01:01:44 Santiago covers a brief history of race, slavery, and racism in the context of Christianity and Adventism. We look at the Bible, Ellen White's writings, and the history of how the Adventist church created a segregated conference system in the United States. Santiago covers a brief history of race, slavery, and racism in the context of Christianity and Adventism. We look at the Bible, Ellen White's writings, and the history of how the Adventist church created a segregated conference system in the United States. ex fundie, ex-fundie, ex-sda, ellen white, deconstruction, culture, ex-adventist, bigotry, sda, jesus, agnostic, ex-christian, seventh-day adventist, adventist, racism, ex-fundamentalist, ex fundamentalist, atheist, ex adventist, deconversion, ex sda, exvangelical, ex christian, belief true full 19 1 868cca92-4628-41ec-8547-c3decc14630f S1:E18 - Cherie: ex-SDA Body Image Coach on Purity Culture, Food, & More Support the Show • Support on Patreon 
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Santiago interviews Cherie Marie, a body image coach, BodyBarre instructor, and former 4th generation Adventist who grew up in California, Ohio, and Berrien Springs, Michigan. We discuss food, purity culture, and much more including overcoming challenges with food and body image. Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes
 

Cherie's Info:

To claim a 90-minute session with Cherie, send her a Direct Message on Instagram and mention the promo code "Hell"

Instagram - alchemy1.0

TikTok - cheriemaried

 

Other topics mentioned:

Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can't Stop Talking

Eve Was Framed - Instagram

Gabor Maté - Wikipedia 

Sex and Sensibility
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Santiago interviews Cherie Marie, a body image coach, BodyBarre instructor, and former 4th generation Adventist who grew up in California, Ohio, and Berrien Springs, Michigan. We discuss food, purity culture, and much more including overcoming challenges with food and body image. Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes
 

Cherie's Info:

To claim a 90-minute session with Cherie, send her a Direct Message on Instagram and mention the promo code "Hell"

Instagram - alchemy1.0

TikTok - cheriemaried

 

Other topics mentioned:

Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can't Stop Talking

Eve Was Framed - Instagram

Gabor Maté - Wikipedia 

Sex and Sensibility
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]]> S1:E18 - Cherie: ex-SDA Body Image Coach on Purity Culture, Food, & More Cherie Marie, Santiago 01:41:40 Santiago interviews Cherie Marie, a body image coach, BodyBarre instructor, and former 4th generation Adventist who grew up in California, Ohio, and Berrien Springs, Michigan. We discuss food, purity culture, and much more including overcoming challenges with food and body image. Santiago interviews Cherie Marie, a body image coach, BodyBarre instructor, and former 4th generation Adventist who grew up in California, Ohio, and Berrien Springs, Michigan. We discuss food, purity culture, and much more including overcoming challenges with food and body image. food, ex fundie, purity culture, ex-fundie, ex-sda, childhood, sex, deconstruction, ex-adventist, body image, bigotry, sda, health message, agnostic, ex-christian, seventh-day adventist, adventist, ex-fundamentalist, ex fundamentalist, atheist, ex adventist, family, deconversion, ex sda, afterlife, religious trauma, exvangelical, ex christian, belief, education true full 18 1 aeb368cc-f4e5-4528-ab24-dc4a5085cfb3 S1:E17 - Matthew Vollmer: Writer, Professor, & Ted Wilson's Nephew - Pt. 2 Support the Show • Support on Patreon

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Part 2 of Santiago's interview with Matthew Vollmer, an ex-Adventist writer and English professor at Virginia Tech who just so happens to be the nephew of Ted Wilson, the current President of the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists.

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Matthew's Links:

Book - All of Us Together in the End

Essay - This I Believed

Essay - The Man With Two Heads

Website / Bio

Books Mentioned:

The Book: On the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are - Alan Watts

The Denial of Death - Ernest Becker

Other Topics Mentioned:

TikTok - Rachel Klinger Cain

The Road Not Taken - Robert Frost

The Architecture of Doom

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Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes

Matthew's Links:

Book - All of Us Together in the End

Essay - This I Believed

Essay - The Man With Two Heads

Website / Bio

Books Mentioned:

The Book: On the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are - Alan Watts

The Denial of Death - Ernest Becker

Other Topics Mentioned:

TikTok - Rachel Klinger Cain

The Road Not Taken - Robert Frost

The Architecture of Doom

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]]> S1:E17 - Matthew Vollmer: Writer, Professor, & Ted Wilson's Nephew - Pt. 2 Matthew Vollmer, Santiago 01:27:32 Part 2 of Santiago's interview with Matthew Vollmer, an ex-Adventist writer and English professor at Virginia Tech who just so happens to be the nephew of Ted Wilson, the current President of the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists. Part 2 of Santiago's interview with Matthew Vollmer, an ex-Adventist writer and English professor at Virginia Tech who just so happens to be the nephew of Ted Wilson, the current President of the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists. ex fundie, purity culture, ex-fundie, ex-sda, dating, childhood, ellen white, hell, ted wilson, end times, deconstruction, culture, ex-adventist, bigotry, sda, jesus, agnostic, sex ed, seventh-day adventist, adventist, ex-fundamentalist, eschatology, ex fundamentalist, ex adventist, family, deconversion, ex sda, afterlife, exvangelical, sex education, belief, education true full 17 1 96a5d435-02dd-48c5-83ac-0867a7dd346a S1:E16 - Matthew Vollmer: Writer, Professor, & Ted Wilson's Nephew - Pt. 1 Support the Show • Support on Patreon 
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Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes

Matthew's Links:

Book - All of Us Together in the End

Essay - This I Believed

Website / Bio

 

Books Mentioned:

The Doctor and the Damned - Albert Haas

Armageddon - Bart D. Ehrman

The Bible Tells Me So - Peter Enns

The Sins of Scripture - John Shelby Spong

Why Christianity Must Change or Die - John Shelby Spong

Tao Te Ching - Lao Tzu

 

Other Topics Mentioned:

Albert Haas and Mauthausen

Music from Matthew's friend John Ringhofer

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Santiago interviews Matthew Vollmer, an ex-Adventist writer and English professor at Virginia Tech who just so happens to be the nephew of Ted Wilson, the current President of the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists.

Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes

Matthew's Links:

Book - All of Us Together in the End

Essay - This I Believed

Website / Bio

 

Books Mentioned:

The Doctor and the Damned - Albert Haas

Armageddon - Bart D. Ehrman

The Bible Tells Me So - Peter Enns

The Sins of Scripture - John Shelby Spong

Why Christianity Must Change or Die - John Shelby Spong

Tao Te Ching - Lao Tzu

 

Other Topics Mentioned:

Albert Haas and Mauthausen

Music from Matthew's friend John Ringhofer

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]]> S1:E16 - Matthew Vollmer: Writer, Professor, & Ted Wilson's Nephew - Pt. 1 Matthew Vollmer, Santiago 01:33:03 Santiago interviews Matthew Vollmer, an ex-Adventist writer and English professor at Virginia Tech who just so happens to be the nephew of Ted Wilson, the current President of the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists. Santiago interviews Matthew Vollmer, an ex-Adventist writer and English professor at Virginia Tech who just so happens to be the nephew of Ted Wilson, the current President of the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists. ex fundie, purity culture, ex-fundie, ex-sda, dating, childhood, ellen white, hell, end times, deconstruction, culture, ex-adventist, bigotry, sda, jesus, agnostic, sex ed, seventh-day adventist, adventist, ex-fundamentalist, eschatology, ex fundamentalist, ex adventist, family, deconversion, ex sda, afterlife, exvangelical, sex education, belief, education true full 16 1 df51320e-7acc-427a-8d11-21226b5fb809 S1:E15 - Haystacks & Hope: Mutual Aid and Other Announcements Support the Dunk Family: hell.bio/dunkfamily
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]]> S1:E15 - Haystacks & Hope: Mutual Aid and Other Announcements Santiago 00:21:30 Santiago announces updates to the resources linked on the Haystacks & Hell website, a new mutual aid project, and a call-to-action to help fellow listeners of the podcast. Santiago announces updates to the resources linked on the Haystacks & Hell website, a new mutual aid project, and a call-to-action to help fellow listeners of the podcast. ex fundie, ex-fundie, ex-sda, deconstruction, ex-adventist, ex-christian, seventh-day adventist, adventist, ex-fundamentalist, ex fundamentalist, ex adventist, deconversion, ex sda, exvangelical, ex christian true full 15 1 daeff05e-c407-425c-a5b4-71400eb8fab3 S1:E14 - Meet Kyle: Future Pastor turned Agnostic Atheist Support the Show • Support on Patreon

Santiago interviews Adam Kyle Jones, an ex-Adventist who studied to become a Seventh-day Adventist pastor at the SDA school Oakwood University. Kyle went from being a lifelong fundamentalist, conservative Adventist to an agnostic atheist. We cover his upbringing, deconversion, depression, and how he came out stronger on the other side.

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Santiago interviews Adam Kyle Jones, an ex-Adventist who studied to become a Seventh-day Adventist pastor at the SDA school Oakwood University. Kyle went from being a lifelong fundamentalist, conservative Adventist to an agnostic atheist. We cover his upbringing, deconversion, depression, and how he came out stronger on the other side.

Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes

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Kyle's social media:

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]]> S1:E14 - Meet Kyle: Future Pastor turned Agnostic Atheist Adam Kyle Jones, Santiago 02:08:05 Santiago interviews Adam Kyle Jones, an ex-Adventist who studied to become a Seventh-day Adventist pastor at the SDA school Oakwood University. Kyle went from being a lifelong fundamentalist, conservative Adventist to an agnostic atheist. We cover his upbringing, deconversion, depression, and how he came out stronger on the other side. Santiago interviews Adam Kyle Jones, an ex-Adventist who studied to become a Seventh-day Adventist pastor at the SDA school Oakwood University. Kyle went from being a lifelong fundamentalist, conservative Adventist to an agnostic atheist. We cover his upbringing, deconversion, depression, and how he came out stronger on the other side. ex fundie, ex-fundie, ex-sda, childhood, ellen white, hell, end times, deconstruction, culture, ex-adventist, bigotry, sda, agnostic, ex-christian, seventh-day adventist, adventist, ex-fundamentalist, eschatology, ex fundamentalist, atheist, ex adventist, deconversion, ex sda, exvangelical, ex christian, belief true full 14 1 a80f45b2-e890-460e-84fb-551b477c9c37 "Human Sexuality Task Force" S1 Bonus 2 Bonus episode discussing an upcoming "Human Sexuality Taskforce" announced by Ted Wilson, President of the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists. Why talk about this? Because I care about the current and former Adventists who will be affected by this. Apparently the GC's homophobia is not clear enough, so they will be producing media to double down on this.

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Spectrum Magazine: General Conference Response

Spectrum Magazine: Ethical Dissent

Washington Adventist University Summit

Adventist Today: SDA Support of Ugandan Anti-LGBT Bill

1987 GC Statement on Sexual Behavior
 

Relevant Info:

BITE Model of Authoritarian Control

The Cut: Exposing FGM (Female Genital Mutilation)

SDA Kinship
 

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S1 Episode 4: When Did You Learn About Sex?

S1 Episode 5: Did You Ever Get "The Talk?"

 

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Related Social Posts (please share if you can):

Tweet thread

Instagram reel

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Sources:

Original video on YouTube

Spectrum Magazine: General Conference Response

Spectrum Magazine: Ethical Dissent

Washington Adventist University Summit

Adventist Today: SDA Support of Ugandan Anti-LGBT Bill

1987 GC Statement on Sexual Behavior
 

Relevant Info:

BITE Model of Authoritarian Control

The Cut: Exposing FGM (Female Genital Mutilation)

SDA Kinship
 

Relevant Episodes:

S1 Episode 4: When Did You Learn About Sex?

S1 Episode 5: Did You Ever Get "The Talk?"

 

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]]> "Human Sexuality Task Force" S1 Bonus 2 Santiago 00:18:19 Bonus episode discussing an upcoming "Human Sexuality Taskforce" announced by Ted Wilson, President of the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists. Why talk about this? Because I care about the current and former Adventists who will be affected by this. Apparently the GC's homophobia is not clear enough, so they will be producing media to double down on this. Bonus episode discussing an upcoming "Human Sexuality Taskforce" announced by Ted Wilson, President of the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists. Why talk about this? Because I care about the current and former Adventists who will be affected by this. Apparently the GC's homophobia is not clear enough, so they will be producing media to double down on this. ex fundie, ex-fundie, ex-sda, lgbtq, ellen white, lgbt, deconstruction, ex-adventist, bigotry, faithfully lgbt, ex-christian, adventist, ex-fundamentalist, ex fundamentalist, ex adventist, deconversion, ex sda, exvangelical, ex christian true bonus 1 3c3365d8-5c99-409f-8b16-9be528982dc2 S1:E13 - Meet Jeff, Humanitarian ex-Adventist Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes 
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Santiago interviews Jeff, an ex-Adventist who used to work for ADRA and still does humanitarian work today. They discuss a bit of everything about growing up Adventist, including Jeff's experiences at an SDA boarding school and what it's been like to leave Adventism over the last 20 years.

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]]> S1:E13 - Meet Jeff, Humanitarian ex-Adventist Jeff, Santiago 02:09:25 Santiago interviews Jeff, an ex-Adventist who used to work for ADRA and still does humanitarian work today. They discuss a bit of everything about growing up Adventist, including Jeff's experiences at an SDA boarding school and what it's been like leaving Adventism over the last 20 years. Santiago interviews Jeff, an ex-Adventist who used to work for ADRA and still does humanitarian work today. They discuss a bit of everything about growing up Adventist, including Jeff's experiences at an SDA boarding school and what it's been like leaving Adventism over the last 20 years. ex fundie, purity culture, ex-fundie, ex-sda, childhood, ellen white, deconstruction, culture, ex-adventist, sda, seventh-day adventist, adventist, ex-fundamentalist, ex fundamentalist, ex adventist, deconversion, ex sda, adra, exvangelical, ex christian, belief, education true full 13 1 b5762920-e910-4173-8e68-e89959aa7fa0 S1:E12 - Did You Read Forbidden Books? Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes 
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Ami, Abby, and Misty talk about worldly literature, fiction, and the church. They discuss their experiences with forbidden books and the Adventist attitude towards fiction in general, and ask their friends if they read any forbidden books.
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]]> S1:E12 - Did You Read Forbidden Books? Misty, Ami, Santiago, Abby 00:53:58 Ami, Abby, and Misty talk about worldly literature, fiction, and the church. They discuss their experiences with forbidden books and the Adventist attitude towards fiction in general, and ask their friends if they read any forbidden books. Ami, Abby, and Misty talk about worldly literature, fiction, and the church. They discuss their experiences with forbidden books and the Adventist attitude towards fiction in general, and ask their friends if they read any forbidden books. ex fundie, ex-fundie, ex-sda, childhood, ellen white, deconstruction, culture, ex-adventist, sda, agnostic, ex-christian, seventh-day adventist, adventist, ex-fundamentalist, ex fundamentalist, atheist, ex adventist, deconversion, ex sda, exvangelical, ex christian, education true full 12 1 e4e65ea9-7e52-40d7-aba3-94f6880dbf2b S1:E11 - Meet ex-SDA Writer Melissa Duge Spiers - Pt. 2 Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes 
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Part 2 of Santiago's conversation with Melissa Duge Spiers, an award-winning memoirist, screenwriter, and essayist based in Silicon Valley, California. They cover Melissa's journey with therapy after leaving the church, her current projects, and more.

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Part 2 of Santiago's conversation with Melissa Duge Spiers, an award-winning memoirist, screenwriter, and essayist based in Silicon Valley, California. They cover Melissa's journey with therapy after leaving the church, her current projects, and more.

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]]> S1:E11 - Meet ex-SDA Writer Melissa Duge Spiers - Pt. 2 Melissa Duge Spiers, Santiago 00:59:36 Part 2 of Santiago's conversation with Melissa Duge Spiers, an award-winning memoirist, screenwriter, and essayist based in Silicon Valley, California. They cover Melissa's journey with therapy after leaving the church, her current projects, and more. Part 2 of Santiago's conversation with Melissa Duge Spiers, an award-winning memoirist, screenwriter, and essayist based in Silicon Valley, California. They cover Melissa's journey with therapy after leaving the church, her current projects, and more. ex fundie, purity culture, ex-fundie, ex-sda, childhood, sex, ellen white, deconstruction, culture, ex-adventist, sda, agnostic, sex ed, ex-christian, seventh-day adventist, adventist, ex-fundamentalist, ex fundamentalist, atheist, ex adventist, family, deconversion, ex sda, exvangelical, sex education, ex christian, belief true full 11 1 bbcf6b85-c7e3-4e24-a724-e2fc47b3abd5 S1:E10 - Meet ex-SDA Writer Melissa Duge Spiers - Pt. 1 Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes 
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Santiago interviews Melissa Duge Spiers, AKA Deconstruction Auntie. Melissa is an award-winning memoirist, screenwriter, and essayist based in Silicon Valley, California. She grew up as a 4th generation Adventist, got baptized at 12, and left the church after high school. This is Part 1 of a 2 part conversation.

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Santiago interviews Melissa Duge Spiers, AKA Deconstruction Auntie. Melissa is an award-winning memoirist, screenwriter, and essayist based in Silicon Valley, California. She grew up as a 4th generation Adventist, got baptized at 12, and left the church after high school. This is Part 1 of a 2 part conversation.

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]]> S1:E10 - Meet ex-SDA Writer Melissa Duge Spiers - Pt. 1 Melissa Duge Spiers, Santiago 01:01:06 Santiago interviews Melissa Duge Spiers, an award-winning memoirist, screenwriter, and essayist based in Silicon Valley, California. She grew up as a 4th generation Adventist, got baptized at 12, and left the church after high school. This is Part 1 of a 2 part conversation. Santiago interviews Melissa Duge Spiers, an award-winning memoirist, screenwriter, and essayist based in Silicon Valley, California. She grew up as a 4th generation Adventist, got baptized at 12, and left the church after high school. This is Part 1 of a 2 part conversation. ex fundie, purity culture, ex-fundie, ex-sda, childhood, sex, ellen white, deconstruction, culture, ex-adventist, sda, agnostic, sex ed, ex-christian, seventh-day adventist, adventist, ex-fundamentalist, ex fundamentalist, atheist, ex adventist, family, deconversion, ex sda, exvangelical, sex education, ex christian, belief true full 10 1 b122aa2e-6c35-43b9-81d9-08803390ede2 S1:E9 - Interview: Meet the ex-SDA Survey Team (Eighth-day Freedom) Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes

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Santiago interviews the research team behind the ex-Adventist survey and research project called Eighth-day Freedom: Dr. Tom Arcaro, Dr. Duane McClearn, and Jeff, an ex-Adventist originally from Michigan.

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]]> S1:E9 - Interview: Meet the ex-SDA Survey Team (Eighth-day Freedom) Jeff, Dr. Tom Arcaro, Dr. Duane McClearn, Santiago 01:33:06 Santiago interviews the research team behind the ex-Adventist survey and research project called Eighth-day Freedom: Dr. Tom Arcaro, Dr. Duane McClearn, and Jeff, an ex-Adventist originally from Michigan. Santiago interviews the research team behind the ex-Adventist survey and research project called Eighth-day Freedom: Dr. Tom Arcaro, Dr. Duane McClearn, and Jeff, an ex-Adventist originally from Michigan. ex fundie, ex-fundie, ex-sda, deconstruction, ex-adventist, sda, agnostic, ex-christian, seventh-day adventist, adventist, ex-fundamentalist, ex fundamentalist, atheist, ex adventist, deconversion, ex sda, exvangelical, ex christian, belief true full 9 1 7cd7de26-59f4-41da-9a0f-e88baa895194 S1:E8 - Dealing with our SDA Families - Pt. 2 Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes

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Santiago shares a bit more about his experiences after leaving the church and shares a template of the letter he wrote to his parents. Abby, Ami, and Alex talk more about issues with raising your own children when your family wants to proselytize them. They talk about issues with aging parents, and whether people are happier with or without religion, regardless of whether it’s true.

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Santiago shares a bit more about his experiences after leaving the church and shares a template of the letter he wrote to his parents. Abby, Ami, and Alex talk more about issues with raising your own children when your family wants to proselytize them. They talk about issues with aging parents, and whether people are happier with or without religion, regardless of whether it’s true.

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]]> S1:E8 - Dealing with our SDA Families - Pt. 2 Ami, Abby, Alex, Santiago 00:32:50 Santiago shares a bit more about his experiences after leaving the church and shares a template of the letter he wrote to his parents. Abby, Ami, and Alex talk more about issues with raising your own children when your family wants to proselytize them, issues with aging parents, and whether people are happier with or without religion. Santiago shares a bit more about his experiences after leaving the church and shares a template of the letter he wrote to his parents. Abby, Ami, and Alex talk more about issues with raising your own children when your family wants to proselytize them, issues with aging parents, and whether people are happier with or without religion. ex fundie, ex-fundie, ex-sda, childhood, deconstruction, ex-adventist, sda, agnostic, ex-christian, seventh-day adventist, adventist, ex-fundamentalist, ex fundamentalist, atheist, ex adventist, family, deconversion, ex sda, exvangelical, ex christian true full 8 1 96cefbfe-325d-4621-9bfc-18f6ef6bfd4a S1:E7 - Dealing with our SDA Families - Pt. 1 Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes

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Santiago reads the letter he wrote to his parents about leaving the church and faith behind. Ami, Abby, and Alex talk about dealing with family who are still in the church. They talk about issues with the previous generation, as well as issues with raising kids and the next generation.

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Coming Out Atheist: How to Do It, How to Help Each Other, and Why - by Greta Christina

Template Letter to Seventh-day Adventist Parents

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Santiago reads the letter he wrote to his parents about leaving the church and faith behind. Ami, Abby, and Alex talk about dealing with family who are still in the church. They talk about issues with the previous generation, as well as issues with raising kids and the next generation.

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Coming Out Atheist: How to Do It, How to Help Each Other, and Why - by Greta Christina

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]]> S1:E7 - Dealing with our SDA Families - Pt. 1 Santiago, Ami, Abby, Alex 01:03:23 Santiago reads the letter he wrote to his parents about leaving the church and faith behind. Ami, Abby, and Alex talk about dealing with family who are still in the church. They talk about issues with the previous generation, as well as issues with raising kids. Santiago reads the letter he wrote to his parents about leaving the church and faith behind. Ami, Abby, and Alex talk about dealing with family who are still in the church. They talk about issues with the previous generation, as well as issues with raising kids. ex fundie, ex-fundie, ex-sda, ellen white, deconstruction, ex-adventist, sda, agnostic, ex-christian, seventh-day adventist, adventist, ex-fundamentalist, ex fundamentalist, atheist, ex adventist, family, deconversion, ex sda, afterlife, exvangelical, ex christian, belief true full 7 1 d3599924-52fe-401f-a23c-bff1b1e74991 S1:E6 - Growing up Gen Z and Adventist: Interview with Miguel Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes

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Santiago interviews his Gen Z brother Miguel about growing up Gen Z and Seventh-day Adventist. We laugh about sex ed, bananas, and fleeing their home in the middle of the night.

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]]> Sat, 11 Feb 2023 14:00:00 +0000 haystacksnhell@gmail.com (Miguel, Santiago) https://haystacksnhell.com/podcast/interview-miguel-on-growing-up-gen-z-and-adventist Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes

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Santiago interviews his Gen Z brother Miguel about growing up Gen Z and Seventh-day Adventist. We laugh about sex ed, bananas, and fleeing their home in the middle of the night.

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Oh look, another sex episode! Santiago shares his experiences and some resources. Ami, Abby, and Alex discuss sex ed in the Adventist church and touch on dorm life, contraceptives, and the experience of growing up during the AIDS crisis. They ask their friends: What, if any, sex ed did you receive?

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Oh look, another sex episode! Santiago shares his experiences and some resources. Ami, Abby, and Alex discuss sex ed in the Adventist church and touch on dorm life, contraceptives, and the experience of growing up during the AIDS crisis. They ask their friends: What, if any, sex ed did you receive?

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]]> S1:E5 - Did You Ever Get “The Talk?” Alex, Abby, Santiago, Ami 01:19:52 Oh look, another sex episode! Santiago shares his experiences and some resources. Ami, Abby, and Alex discuss sex ed in the Adventist church and touch on dorm life, contraceptives, and the experience of growing up during the AIDS crisis. They ask their friends: What, if any, sex ed did you receive? Oh look, another sex episode! Santiago shares his experiences and some resources. Ami, Abby, and Alex discuss sex ed in the Adventist church and touch on dorm life, contraceptives, and the experience of growing up during the AIDS crisis. They ask their friends: What, if any, sex ed did you receive? ex fundie, purity culture, ex-fundie, ex-sda, childhood, sex, culture, ex-adventist, sda, sex ed, ex-christian, seventh-day adventist, adventist, ex-fundamentalist, ex fundamentalist, ex adventist, ex sda, exvangelical, sex education, ex christian, education true full 5 1 fc641fe2-e26c-4a54-bc06-fbfb42d47b80 S1:E4 - When Did You Learn About Sex? Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes

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We discuss John Harvey Kellogg, early Seventh-day Adventist attitudes towards sex, more modern attitudes, and our own experiences with sex education growing up in the church. Ami asks her friends: When did you learn what sex was?

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]]> Sun, 29 Jan 2023 15:43:51 +0000 haystacksnhell@gmail.com (Santiago, Abby, Ami) https://haystacksnhell.com/podcast/when-did-you-learn-about-sex Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes

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We discuss John Harvey Kellogg, early Seventh-day Adventist attitudes towards sex, more modern attitudes, and our own experiences with sex education growing up in the church. Ami asks her friends: When did you learn what sex was?

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]]> S1:E4 - When Did You Learn About Sex? Santiago, Abby, Ami 01:08:47 We discuss John Harvey Kellogg, early Seventh-day Adventist attitudes towards sex, more modern attitudes, and our own experiences with sex education growing up in the church. Ami asks her friends: When did you learn what sex was? We discuss John Harvey Kellogg, early Seventh-day Adventist attitudes towards sex, more modern attitudes, and our own experiences with sex education growing up in the church. Ami asks her friends: When did you learn what sex was? ex fundie, purity culture, ex-fundie, ex-sda, dating, childhood, sex, ellen white, ex-adventist, agnostic, ex-christian, adventist, ex-fundamentalist, ex fundamentalist, atheist, ex adventist, ex sda, exvangelical, ex christian true full 4 1 ddf05b7b-7dbe-4751-88e1-e0ab5f99090f Stories From Listeners Like You - S1 Bonus 1 Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes

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Santiago reads stories shared by listeners of the podcast: A woman who left the conservative fringes of Adventism, a trans woman from Puerto Rico, and someone who was raised in the SDA Reform Church.

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Santiago reads stories shared by listeners of the podcast: A woman who left the conservative fringes of Adventism, a trans woman from Puerto Rico, and someone who was raised in the SDA Reform Church.

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]]> Stories From Listeners Like You - S1 Bonus 1 Santiago 00:15:36 Santiago reads stories shared by listeners of the podcast: A woman who left the conservative fringes of Adventism, a trans woman from Puerto Rico, and someone who was raised in the SDA Reform Church. Santiago reads stories shared by listeners of the podcast: A woman who left the conservative fringes of Adventism, a trans woman from Puerto Rico, and someone who was raised in the SDA Reform Church. ex fundie, ex-fundie, ex-sda, childhood, deconstruction, ex-adventist, bigotry, sda, agnostic, seventh-day adventist, adventist, ex-fundamentalist, ex fundamentalist, ex adventist, ex sda, belief true bonus 1 1564e60c-ee3d-4b07-bca0-9ccfba8a03e9 S1:E3 - Do You Have a Favorite Veggie Meat? Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes

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We discuss Adventist culture, diet, and the Sabbath, looking at the good and bad aspects of these things. Abby and Ami are joined by Alex, and they ask their friends "What's your favorite veggie meat?"

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]]> S1:E3 - Do You Have a Favorite Veggie Meat? Alex, Santiago, Abby, Ami 00:49:40 We discuss Adventist culture, diet, and the Sabbath, looking at the good and bad aspects of these things. Abby and Ami are joined by Alex, and they ask their friends "What's your favorite veggie meat?" We discuss Adventist culture, diet, and the Sabbath, looking at the good and bad aspects of these things. Abby and Ami are joined by Alex, and they ask their friends "What's your favorite veggie meat?" food, ex fundie, ex-fundie, ex-sda, vegan, culture, ex-adventist, health message, adventist, ex-fundamentalist, ex fundamentalist, ex adventist, ex sda, vegetarian true full 3 1 f32be8dc-75d7-4eee-8794-a19320923c57 S1:E2 - Do You Believe in an Afterlife? Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes

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Santiago, Ami, and Abby talk about death, heaven, hell, and Adventist eschatology. Abby and Ami ask their friends the vital question: Were you taught that animals go to heaven?

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Santiago, Ami, and Abby talk about death, heaven, hell, and Adventist eschatology. Abby and Ami ask their friends the vital question: Were you taught that animals go to heaven?

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]]> S1:E2 - Do You Believe in an Afterlife? Abby, Santiago, Ami 01:11:07 Santiago, Ami, and Abby talk about death, heaven, hell, and Adventist eschatology. Abby and Ami ask their friends the vital question: Were you taught that animals go to heaven? Santiago, Ami, and Abby talk about death, heaven, hell, and Adventist eschatology. Abby and Ami ask their friends the vital question: Were you taught that animals go to heaven? ex fundie, ex-fundie, ex-sda, childhood, hell, end times, ex-adventist, agnostic, ex-christian, adventist, ex-fundamentalist, eschatology, ex fundamentalist, atheist, ex adventist, ex sda, afterlife, exvangelical, ex christian, belief true full 2 1 31676b23-9579-4c1e-94dd-e83ed445b79b S1:E1 - Do You Believe in God? Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes

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Santiago introduces himself and the podcast. Abby and Ami discuss their plans for the podcast, their backgrounds, why they left the church, and ask their friends the question: When did you know that god wasn't real?

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Santiago introduces himself and the podcast. Abby and Ami discuss their plans for the podcast, their backgrounds, why they left the church, and ask their friends the question: When did you know that god wasn't real?

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]]> S1:E1 - Do You Believe in God? Abby, Ami, Santiago 01:20:14 Santiago introduces himself and the podcast. Abby and Ami discuss their plans for the podcast, their backgrounds, why they left the church, and ask their friends the question: When did you know that god wasn't real? Santiago introduces himself and the podcast. Abby and Ami discuss their plans for the podcast, their backgrounds, why they left the church, and ask their friends the question: When did you know that god wasn't real? ex-sda, deconstruction, ex-adventist, sda, agnostic, ex-christian, seventh-day adventist, adventist, atheist, ex adventist, deconversion, ex sda, afterlife, empty the pews, exvangelical, ex christian, belief true full 1 1 8fe0e9f4-6344-423c-b739-3d1dda2b4551 Podcast Trailer Were you ever part of the Seventh-day Adventist Church or exposed to fundamentalist Christianity in general? If so, have we got a show for you (queue the Veggie Tales theme song)!

Haystacks & Hell is an ex-Adventist podcast where we tell stories about growing up Seventh-day Adventist, leaving faith behind, and building new, fulfilling lives.

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  • The end of the world
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]]> Wed, 4 Jan 2023 11:12:16 +0000 haystacksnhell@gmail.com (Santiago, Ami, Abby) https://haystacksnhell.com/podcast/season-1-trailer Were you ever part of the Seventh-day Adventist Church or exposed to fundamentalist Christianity in general? If so, have we got a show for you (queue the Veggie Tales theme song)!

Haystacks & Hell is an ex-Adventist podcast where we tell stories about growing up Seventh-day Adventist, leaving faith behind, and building new, fulfilling lives.

We'll also unpack topics like:

  • The end of the world
  • Sex, dating, and purity culture
  • Wild quotes from SDA "prophet" Ellen White

Have a story to share? Write to us or leave a voicemail at (301) 750-8648‬. We take your privacy seriously: Privacy Policy

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