https://simplecast.com Rachel Maddow Presents: Burn Order "Rachel Maddow Presents: Burn Order" is the story of one of the most shocking decisions in American history: the executive order to target and round up innocent citizens, Japanese Americans, at the outbreak of World War II. This six-episode narrative podcast will examine and shed new light on how that policy came to be, who was behind it, who attempted to stop it, and the heroism needed to end the policy for good. Brazen lies and stereotypes about a minority group being pushed by senior government officials. Desperate efforts to prevent the policy from going into place. A community terrorized on the streets by the U.S. military, grabbed from their homes and sent to faraway, hastily built detention camps. Government reports gathered up and set on fire to suppress the truth behind the policy. And a bombshell discovery in the unlikeliest of places that would ultimately expose it all. This is the story of the American government's decision to pursue and carry out an extreme and unconstitutional policy against its own citizens, and it's the story of what it finally took to stop it. Rachel Maddow's previous narrative podcasts -- "Bag Man," "Ultra," and "Ultra: Season 2" -- all reached #1 on the Apple podcast charts and have received an Alfred I. duPont-Columbia University Journalism Award, a Hillman Prize for Broadcast Journalism, and most recently, a 2025 national Edward R. Murrow Award. Her new series, "Rachel Maddow Presents: Burn Order," premieres December 1, 2025. MS NOW en Thu, 5 Feb 2026 08:00:00 +0000 Thu, 5 Feb 2026 08:00:13 +0000 https://www.ms.now/ Rachel Maddow Presents: Burn Order https://image.simplecastcdn.com/images/b45b3f3f-9bc0-4cdf-8375-d946055e4c11/b2cf4662-34cf-474b-a173-d7ba9d2902d1/3000x3000/msnow-burnorder-update-5b3-5d-jpg.jpg?aid=rss_feed https://www.ms.now/ serial "Rachel Maddow Presents: Burn Order" is the story of one of the most shocking decisions in American history: the executive order to target and round up innocent citizens, Japanese Americans, at the outbreak of World War II. This six-episode narrative podcast will examine and shed new light on how that policy came to be, who was behind it, who attempted to stop it, and the heroism needed to end the policy for good. Brazen lies and stereotypes about a minority group being pushed by senior government officials. Desperate efforts to prevent the policy from going into place. A community terrorized on the streets by the U.S. military, grabbed from their homes and sent to faraway, hastily built detention camps. Government reports gathered up and set on fire to suppress the truth behind the policy. And a bombshell discovery in the unlikeliest of places that would ultimately expose it all. This is the story of the American government's decision to pursue and carry out an extreme and unconstitutional policy against its own citizens, and it's the story of what it finally took to stop it. Rachel Maddow's previous narrative podcasts -- "Bag Man," "Ultra," and "Ultra: Season 2" -- all reached #1 on the Apple podcast charts and have received an Alfred I. duPont-Columbia University Journalism Award, a Hillman Prize for Broadcast Journalism, and most recently, a 2025 national Edward R. Murrow Award. Her new series, "Rachel Maddow Presents: Burn Order," premieres December 1, 2025. Rachel Maddow, MS NOW false https://feeds.simplecast.com/EMLnZ_Br msnbc, ms now, rachel maddow MS NOW pods@versantmedia.com 64bcd492-acd8-4bef-af96-8612d523d9e5 MS NOW Presents: Clock It with Symone and Eugene Symone Sanders Townsend and Eugene Daniels were once at odds as White House staffer and White House reporter. Now they’re friends and colleagues—each co-hosting their own shows at MS NOW. But their off-air conversations are where the real action is. Their new show, “MS NOW Presents: Clock It” is an invitation to their groupchat, the liveliest—and most informative—in news. Whether it’s ICE getting dispatched to the Super Bowl because Bad Bunny’s doing the halftime show, or Nicolás Maduro’s Nike Tech fit, or Michael B. Jordan’s sole Oscar nomination despite playing three roles in Sinners, there is no collision between culture and politics that this show won’t document and decipher. Symone and Eugene see exactly what’s going on—and they want you to clock it, too. 

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]]> Thu, 5 Feb 2026 08:00:00 +0000 pods@versantmedia.com (Eugene Daniels, Symone Sanders Townsend) https://www.ms.now/ Symone Sanders Townsend and Eugene Daniels were once at odds as White House staffer and White House reporter. Now they’re friends and colleagues—each co-hosting their own shows at MS NOW. But their off-air conversations are where the real action is. Their new show, “MS NOW Presents: Clock It” is an invitation to their groupchat, the liveliest—and most informative—in news. Whether it’s ICE getting dispatched to the Super Bowl because Bad Bunny’s doing the halftime show, or Nicolás Maduro’s Nike Tech fit, or Michael B. Jordan’s sole Oscar nomination despite playing three roles in Sinners, there is no collision between culture and politics that this show won’t document and decipher. Symone and Eugene see exactly what’s going on—and they want you to clock it, too. 

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]]> MS NOW Presents: Clock It with Symone and Eugene Eugene Daniels, Symone Sanders Townsend 00:02:27 Introducing “Clock It,” a new podcast at the intersection of culture and politics from Symone Sanders Townsend and Eugene Daniels. Introducing “Clock It,” a new podcast at the intersection of culture and politics from Symone Sanders Townsend and Eugene Daniels. white house, music, facebook, midterms, society, primaries, jd vance, politics, the weekend, congress, superbowl, versant, sports, greenland, fashion, eugene daniels, instagram, washington, culture, oscars, venezuela, minneapolis, msnbc, trump, symone sanders townsend, tiktok, ms now, the weeknight, new york false bonus 1 240b9f23-64f0-409c-a490-9103a70bf61c Get Insider Access to MS NOW Podcasts Listen to this special invitation from Rachel Maddow and sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts to take advantage of a 3-month free trial!

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]]> Get Insider Access to MS NOW Podcasts MS NOW 00:01:42 A special invitation from Rachel Maddow. A special invitation from Rachel Maddow. false bonus 1 7593dfbc-f1e1-4e60-b1b3-1c0d22826349 Live community event: Rachel Maddow Presents: Burn Order Rachel Maddow hosts a special conversation with guests from her "Burn Order" podcast, live from the Orpheum Theater in Los Angeles to discuss the fight against the race-based incarceration of Japanese-Americans during World War II and how lessons from that episode in American history apply today.

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]]> Tue, 30 Dec 2025 05:37:47 +0000 pods@versantmedia.com (Jacob Soboroff, Rachel Maddow, Amy Oba, Victor Gordo, Rep. Mark Takano, Frank Abe, Lori Bannai, Satsuki Ina) https://www.ms.now/ Rachel Maddow hosts a special conversation with guests from her "Burn Order" podcast, live from the Orpheum Theater in Los Angeles to discuss the fight against the race-based incarceration of Japanese-Americans during World War II and how lessons from that episode in American history apply today.

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]]> Live community event: Rachel Maddow Presents: Burn Order Jacob Soboroff, Rachel Maddow, Amy Oba, Victor Gordo, Rep. Mark Takano, Frank Abe, Lori Bannai, Satsuki Ina 01:27:29 Rachel Maddow hosts a special conversation with guests from her "Burn Order" podcast, live from the Orpheum Theater in Los Angeles to discuss the fight against the race-based incarceration of Japanese-Americans during World War II and how lessons from that episode in American history apply today. Rachel Maddow hosts a special conversation with guests from her "Burn Order" podcast, live from the Orpheum Theater in Los Angeles to discuss the fight against the race-based incarceration of Japanese-Americans during World War II and how lessons from that episode in American history apply today. gordon hirabayashi, norm mineta, kenneth ringle, tsuru for solidarity, ronald reagan, world war ii, ralph carr, lori bannai, manzanar, aiko herzig-yoshinaga, donald trump, karl bendetsen, redress, john dewitt, burn order, internment, solicitor general, japanese-american wartime incarceration, peter irons, fort sill, suppression, supreme court, archives, pearl harbor, rachel maddow, fred korematsu, evidence, satsuki ina, mitsuye endo, army, min yasui, msnbc, ringle report, japan, adam schrager, report, coram nobis, edward ennis, ms now, earl warren, david mineta false full 7 1 353c7569-45f2-417b-a14d-7056dba13632 Episode 6: A Reckoning An incarceree-turned researcher and a federal inmate-turned Harvard educated lawyer comb through the archives and begin to peel back all of the layers of the government's program to mass incarcerate Japanese Americans. With their startling findings in hand, they and the Japanese American community set out to force the U.S. government to directly confront its actions.

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]]> Sat, 13 Dec 2025 02:15:00 +0000 pods@versantmedia.com (Kenneth Ringle, David Mineta, Peter Irons, Adam Schrager, Lori Bannai) https://www.ms.now/ An incarceree-turned researcher and a federal inmate-turned Harvard educated lawyer comb through the archives and begin to peel back all of the layers of the government's program to mass incarcerate Japanese Americans. With their startling findings in hand, they and the Japanese American community set out to force the U.S. government to directly confront its actions.

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]]> Episode 6: A Reckoning Kenneth Ringle, David Mineta, Peter Irons, Adam Schrager, Lori Bannai 01:19:53 An incarceree-turned researcher and a federal inmate-turned Harvard educated lawyer comb through the archives and begin to peel back all of the layers of the government's program to mass incarcerate Japanese Americans. With their startling findings in hand, they and the Japanese American community set out to force the U.S. government to directly confront its actions. An incarceree-turned researcher and a federal inmate-turned Harvard educated lawyer comb through the archives and begin to peel back all of the layers of the government's program to mass incarcerate Japanese Americans. With their startling findings in hand, they and the Japanese American community set out to force the U.S. government to directly confront its actions. gordon hirabayashi, norm mineta, kenneth ringle, tsuru for solidarity, ronald reagan, world war ii, ralph carr, lori bannai, manzanar, aiko herzig-yoshinaga, donald trump, karl bendetsen, redress, john dewitt, burn order, internment, solicitor general, japanese-american wartime incarceration, peter irons, fort sill, suppression, supreme court, archives, pearl harbor, rachel maddow, fred korematsu, evidence, satsuki ina, mitsuye endo, army, min yasui, msnbc, ringle report, japan, adam schrager, report, coram nobis, edward ennis, ms now, earl warren, david mineta false full 6 1 f783c90e-bc97-4848-bd94-e494f44407e4 Episode 5: Sheep and Goats As the cases of the four Japanese Americans challenging the U.S. government's mass incarceration policy arrive at the Supreme Court, a crisis suddenly erupts inside the Justice Department and the War Department as the true motivations behind the policy are now at risk of being revealed. A fierce battle is waged inside the government over whether to disclose the information to the courts, or cover it up.

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]]> Sat, 13 Dec 2025 01:46:18 +0000 pods@versantmedia.com (Chuck Rosenberg, Kenneth Ringle, Frank Abe, David Mineta) https://www.ms.now/ As the cases of the four Japanese Americans challenging the U.S. government's mass incarceration policy arrive at the Supreme Court, a crisis suddenly erupts inside the Justice Department and the War Department as the true motivations behind the policy are now at risk of being revealed. A fierce battle is waged inside the government over whether to disclose the information to the courts, or cover it up.

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]]> Episode 5: Sheep and Goats Chuck Rosenberg, Kenneth Ringle, Frank Abe, David Mineta 00:48:39 As the cases of the four Japanese Americans challenging the U.S. government's mass incarceration policy arrive at the Supreme Court, a crisis suddenly erupts inside the Justice Department and the War Department as the true motivations behind the policy are now at risk of being revealed. A fierce battle is waged inside the government over whether to disclose the information to the courts, or cover it up. As the cases of the four Japanese Americans challenging the U.S. government's mass incarceration policy arrive at the Supreme Court, a crisis suddenly erupts inside the Justice Department and the War Department as the true motivations behind the policy are now at risk of being revealed. A fierce battle is waged inside the government over whether to disclose the information to the courts, or cover it up. goats, gordon hirabayashi, kenneth ringle, chuck rosenberg, world war ii, aiko herzig-yoshinaga, sheep, karl bendetsen, john dewitt, burn order, internment, solicitor general, japanese-american wartime incarceration, peter irons, harpers, suppression, supreme court, supreme court, archives, pearl harbor, rerport, executive order 9066, rachel maddow, fred korematsu, evidence, frank abe, mitsuye endo, army, min yasui, msnbc, japan, edward ennis, ms now, david mineta false full 5 1 c2125ead-b5f4-4525-9b1c-04d555ff8033 Episode 4: "Like an Ordinary American" A principled politician puts his career on the line to stand up against the authoritarian actions of an emboldened federal government. While Americans largely sit by and watch their fellow Americans rounded up and stripped of their rights, a small group of brave resisters sets out to challenge the aggressive actions of the U.S. government and bring an end to them for good.

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]]> Mon, 8 Dec 2025 09:00:00 +0000 pods@versantmedia.com (Adam Schrager, Lori Bannai, Frank Abe, Chuck Rosenberg) https://www.ms.now/ A principled politician puts his career on the line to stand up against the authoritarian actions of an emboldened federal government. While Americans largely sit by and watch their fellow Americans rounded up and stripped of their rights, a small group of brave resisters sets out to challenge the aggressive actions of the U.S. government and bring an end to them for good.

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]]> Episode 4: "Like an Ordinary American" Adam Schrager, Lori Bannai, Frank Abe, Chuck Rosenberg 00:48:04 A principled politician puts his career on the line to stand up against the authoritarian actions of an emboldened federal government. While Americans largely sit by and watch their fellow Americans rounded up and stripped of their rights, a small group of brave resisters sets out to challenge the aggressive actions of the U.S. government and bring an end to them for good. A principled politician puts his career on the line to stand up against the authoritarian actions of an emboldened federal government. While Americans largely sit by and watch their fellow Americans rounded up and stripped of their rights, a small group of brave resisters sets out to challenge the aggressive actions of the U.S. government and bring an end to them for good. james purcell, gordon hirabayashi, world war ii, ralph carr, aiko herzig-yoshinaga, colorado, karl bendetsen, john dewitt, burn order, internment, japanese-american wartime incarceration, supreme court, seattle, pearl harbor, rachel maddow, fred korematsu, portland, frank abe, mitsuye endo, army, min yasui, msnbc, japan, horse stalls, ms now false full 4 1 0631404b-50fe-4f38-a89e-0b1f08701029 Episode 3: One Drop The U.S. military is deployed on the streets of America, tasked with carrying out the mass round-up of innocent immigrants and American citizens labeled by the government as the "enemy" within. Tens of thousands of American families are forced to live in hastily constructed prison camps — enduring inhumane conditions — while government officials scramble to figure out what to do with them all. 

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]]> Mon, 8 Dec 2025 08:00:00 +0000 pods@versantmedia.com (Frank Abe, David Mineta, Satsuki Ina) https://www.ms.now/ The U.S. military is deployed on the streets of America, tasked with carrying out the mass round-up of innocent immigrants and American citizens labeled by the government as the "enemy" within. Tens of thousands of American families are forced to live in hastily constructed prison camps — enduring inhumane conditions — while government officials scramble to figure out what to do with them all. 

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]]> Episode 3: One Drop Frank Abe, David Mineta, Satsuki Ina 00:53:51 The U.S. military is deployed on the streets of America, tasked with carrying out the mass round-up of innocent immigrants and American citizens labeled by the government as the "enemy" within. Tens of thousands of American families are forced to live in hastily constructed prison camps — enduring inhumane conditions — while government officials scramble to figure out what to do with them all. The U.S. military is deployed on the streets of America, tasked with carrying out the mass round-up of innocent immigrants and American citizens labeled by the government as the "enemy" within. Tens of thousands of American families are forced to live in hastily constructed prison camps — enduring inhumane conditions — while government officials scramble to figure out what to do with them all. citizen, norman mineta, james rowe, horse stables, attorney general, world war ii, alien enemies act, manzanar, germany, karl bendetsen, john dewitt, aiko-herzig yoshinaga, burn order, internment, citizenship, immigrations, tule lake, pearl harbor, executive order 9066, rachel maddow, incarceration, frank abe, camp, satsuki ina, army, santa anita, msnbc, japan, tanforan, prison, edward ennis, ms now, david mineta, italy false full 3 1 9c19c037-a7fd-4dde-9a46-5e8a4202093a Episode 2: The Jitters In the wake of the Pearl Harbor attack, the man in charge of defending the American west coast has a serious case of the jitters... and also a bright, young aide who is busy drawing up plans to target a racial group in America en masse. With the clock running out, lawyers inside the Justice Department mount a furious effort to stop the policy from going into effect.

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]]> Mon, 1 Dec 2025 08:00:00 +0000 pods@versantmedia.com (Chuck Rosenberg, Kenneth Ringle, Rachel Maddow, Frank Abe) https://www.ms.now/ In the wake of the Pearl Harbor attack, the man in charge of defending the American west coast has a serious case of the jitters... and also a bright, young aide who is busy drawing up plans to target a racial group in America en masse. With the clock running out, lawyers inside the Justice Department mount a furious effort to stop the policy from going into effect.

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]]> Episode 2: The Jitters Chuck Rosenberg, Kenneth Ringle, Rachel Maddow, Frank Abe 00:48:46 In the wake of the Pearl Harbor attack, the man in charge of defending the American west coast has a serious case of the jitters... and also a bright, young aide who is busy drawing up plans to target a racial group in America en masse. With the clock running out, lawyers inside the Justice Department mount a furious effort to stop the policy from going into effect. In the wake of the Pearl Harbor attack, the man in charge of defending the American west coast has a serious case of the jitters... and also a bright, young aide who is busy drawing up plans to target a racial group in America en masse. With the clock running out, lawyers inside the Justice Department mount a furious effort to stop the policy from going into effect. citizen, james rowe, kenneth ringle, submarine, attorney general, chuck rosenberg, world war ii, alien enemies act, germany, karl bendetsen, john dewitt, burn order, internment, jr., citizenship, immigrations, pearl harbor, executive order 9066, rachel maddow, frank abe, camp, army, francis biddle, msnbc, japan, prison, edward ennis, ms now, italy true full 2 1 deabea9a-f72c-4f66-b34c-6462d810d504 Episode 1: Safecracker The bombshell discovery of a report that U.S. government officials had ordered burned has the potential to expose the truth about one of the most radical policy decisions in all of American history. A policy that one young Naval intelligence officer desperately tried to warn his superiors was unwarranted and unnecessary.

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]]> Mon, 1 Dec 2025 07:00:00 +0000 pods@versantmedia.com (Peter Irons, Frank Abe, Kenneth Ringle, Satsuki Ina, David Mineta, Rachel Maddow, Lorraine Bannai) https://www.ms.now/ The bombshell discovery of a report that U.S. government officials had ordered burned has the potential to expose the truth about one of the most radical policy decisions in all of American history. A policy that one young Naval intelligence officer desperately tried to warn his superiors was unwarranted and unnecessary.

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]]> Episode 1: Safecracker Peter Irons, Frank Abe, Kenneth Ringle, Satsuki Ina, David Mineta, Rachel Maddow, Lorraine Bannai 00:35:11 The bombshell discovery of a report that U.S. government officials had ordered burned has the potential to expose the truth about one of the most radical policy decisions in all of American history. A policy that one young Naval intelligence officer desperately tried to warn his superiors was unwarranted and unnecessary. The bombshell discovery of a report that U.S. government officials had ordered burned has the potential to expose the truth about one of the most radical policy decisions in all of American history. A policy that one young Naval intelligence officer desperately tried to warn his superiors was unwarranted and unnecessary. imperial japan, citizen, spies, national archives, kenneth ringle, world war ii, alien enemies act, aiko herzig-yoshinaga, fdr, germany, karl bendetsen, immigration, john dewitt, u.s. army, burn order, los angeles, japanese-american wartime incarceration, citizenship, naval intelligence, rachel maddow, frank abe, san quentin, camp, msnbc, japan, prison, wwi, ms now, fascist, u.s. navy, italy true full 1 1 d08c3395-244f-46ab-9113-7f6e36d7ec82 Introducing “Rachel Maddow Presents: Burn Order” "Rachel Maddow Presents: Burn Order" is the story of one of the most shocking decisions in American history: the executive order to target and round up innocent citizens, Japanese Americans, at the outbreak of World War II. This six-episode narrative podcast will examine and shed new light on how that policy came to be, who was behind it, who attempted to stop it, and the heroism needed to end the policy for good. 

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]]> Thu, 20 Nov 2025 21:05:01 +0000 pods@versantmedia.com (RACHEL MADDOW) https://www.ms.now/ "Rachel Maddow Presents: Burn Order" is the story of one of the most shocking decisions in American history: the executive order to target and round up innocent citizens, Japanese Americans, at the outbreak of World War II. This six-episode narrative podcast will examine and shed new light on how that policy came to be, who was behind it, who attempted to stop it, and the heroism needed to end the policy for good. 

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]]> Introducing “Rachel Maddow Presents: Burn Order” RACHEL MADDOW 00:02:05 A new show about a government crime and coverup. From the team behind the #1 podcasts “Ultra” and “Bag Man.” A new show about a government crime and coverup. From the team behind the #1 podcasts “Ultra” and “Bag Man.” untold stories, world war ii, wwii, hidden history, japanese internment, immigration, japanese americans, rachel maddow, history, japanese incarceration, msnbc, japan, ms now false trailer 1