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Hosted by Sendbird CEO John Kim, it features conversations with the founders and executives turning ambitious visions into transformative technologies. These are the leaders reimagining how we communicate, create, and connect in an age of intelligent machines.

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Hosted by Sendbird CEO John Kim, it features conversations with the founders and executives turning ambitious visions into transformative technologies. These are the leaders reimagining how we communicate, create, and connect in an age of intelligent machines.

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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Storage used to be an afterthought. In the era of trillion-parameter models and agent swarms consuming millions of tokens per session, it has become one of the most strategically critical layers in the AI stack. On this episode of MindMakers, John Kim is joined by <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/valentinbercovici/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Val Bercovici</a>, Chief AI Officer at WEKA, the AI storage and memory systems company.</p>
<p>Val brings a rare vantage point of two decades across NetApp, SolidFire, and early Kubernetes development to explain why memory architecture is the defining challenge of this moment in AI. He breaks down the gap between what models can theoretically do and what infrastructure actually allows, introduces WEKA’s concept of a "token warehouse," and explains how the shift from prompt engineering to context engineering is changing the way teams build and scale AI systems.</p>
<p>Val also shares a candid take on the Chief AI Officer role and whether it's built to last, his read on the cultural and competitive differences between Anthropic and OpenAI, and why the most durable business model in AI may ultimately come down to who sells the tokens. </p>
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<p>Valentin (Val) Bercovici is the chief AI officer at WEKA. He has extensive experience in the data infrastructure industry, having previously been the CTO at NetApp/SolidFire, where he drove innovation in cloud storage and data management solutions. Val co-authored the Windows Shadowcopy snapshots and has made significant contributions to the storage standards community. </p>
<p>As co-chair of the Storage Networking Industry Association's (SNIA) Solid State Storage Initiative, Val helped to establish the first NAND Flash SSD storage standards. Additionally, Val served as the chair of the SNIA Cloud Storage Initiative (CSI), where he led the development of the international S3 standard CDMI (ISO 17826). He was also a founding member of the Kubernetes Cloud Native Computing Foundation’s Governing Board, helping to shape the global direction of container orchestration. </p>
<p>Val holds patents in AI agent smart contracts, streaming data integrity, and augmented reality (AR) for data center maintenance. His work continues to push the boundaries of what’s possible at the intersection of AI, cloud, and emerging technologies.</p>
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<p>"The biggest value of memory today is without any additional expense, without more CAPEX or energy OPEX, you can have a high level of concurrency... Even at a modest scale, we're seeing 6.5x, another way of saying it is 550% more concurrent tokens without latency sacrifice, without any more GPU spend or any more energy spend." – Val Bercovici</p>
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<p>[00:49] Welcoming Val to the show</p>
<p>[01:02] Val's background pushing innovations</p>
<p>[02:58] Are Chief AI Officers here to stay?</p>
<p>[08:40] How WEKA delivers for clients</p>
<p>[12:16] Unlocking memory architecture bottlenecks</p>
<p>[18:53] Where memory impacts the bottom line</p>
<p>[24:51] The future of reliably stored context</p>
<p>[28:29] Keeping up with AI research</p>
<p>[31:47] The power of being an early adopter</p>
<p>[34:19] Who is winning the AI code battle?</p>
<p>[39:15] Are we heading into a SaaS apocalypse?</p>
<p>[44:31] Val's Human Prompt</p>
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<p>Links</p>
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 <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/valentinbercovici/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Connect with<i> </i>Val Bercovici on LinkedIn</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.weka.io/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Check out WEKA</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/doshkim" rel="noopener noreferrer">Connect with John Kim on LinkedIn</a></li>
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<p>Val brings a rare vantage point of two decades across NetApp, SolidFire, and early Kubernetes development to explain why memory architecture is the defining challenge of this moment in AI. He breaks down the gap between what models can theoretically do and what infrastructure actually allows, introduces WEKA’s concept of a "token warehouse," and explains how the shift from prompt engineering to context engineering is changing the way teams build and scale AI systems.</p>
<p>Val also shares a candid take on the Chief AI Officer role and whether it's built to last, his read on the cultural and competitive differences between Anthropic and OpenAI, and why the most durable business model in AI may ultimately come down to who sells the tokens. </p>
<p>For anyone building or leading at the infrastructure layer of AI, this episode offers both the technical depth and the strategic clarity to think several moves ahead.</p>
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<p>Valentin (Val) Bercovici is the chief AI officer at WEKA. He has extensive experience in the data infrastructure industry, having previously been the CTO at NetApp/SolidFire, where he drove innovation in cloud storage and data management solutions. Val co-authored the Windows Shadowcopy snapshots and has made significant contributions to the storage standards community. </p>
<p>As co-chair of the Storage Networking Industry Association's (SNIA) Solid State Storage Initiative, Val helped to establish the first NAND Flash SSD storage standards. Additionally, Val served as the chair of the SNIA Cloud Storage Initiative (CSI), where he led the development of the international S3 standard CDMI (ISO 17826). He was also a founding member of the Kubernetes Cloud Native Computing Foundation’s Governing Board, helping to shape the global direction of container orchestration. </p>
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<p>[00:49] Welcoming Val to the show</p>
<p>[01:02] Val's background pushing innovations</p>
<p>[02:58] Are Chief AI Officers here to stay?</p>
<p>[08:40] How WEKA delivers for clients</p>
<p>[12:16] Unlocking memory architecture bottlenecks</p>
<p>[18:53] Where memory impacts the bottom line</p>
<p>[24:51] The future of reliably stored context</p>
<p>[28:29] Keeping up with AI research</p>
<p>[31:47] The power of being an early adopter</p>
<p>[34:19] Who is winning the AI code battle?</p>
<p>[39:15] Are we heading into a SaaS apocalypse?</p>
<p>[44:31] Val's Human Prompt</p>
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 <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/valentinbercovici/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Connect with<i> </i>Val Bercovici on LinkedIn</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.weka.io/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Check out WEKA</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/doshkim" rel="noopener noreferrer">Connect with John Kim on LinkedIn</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://sendbird.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Check out Sendbird</a></li>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>As the bottleneck for AI innovation shifts away from the training layer, what will power the next wave of widespread enterprise implementation? On this episode of <i>MindMakers</i>, John Kim is joined by Fireworks AI’s Co-Founder, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/benny-yufei-chen-2238575a" rel="noopener noreferrer">Benny Yufei Chen</a>, to explore why inference has become the most critical layer in the AI stack.</p>
<p>Drawing from his experience on the PyTorch team at Meta and building large-scale production systems, Benny shares why his team set off to found Fireworks AI on what many initially saw as a contrarian belief. Today, as companies consume trillions of tokens and race to automate workflows, this episode dives into why cost efficiency, model evaluation, and reinforcement learning are becoming strategic advantages.</p>
<p>Benny also explains why open source models are here to stay, how reinforcement learning with verifiable feedback lowers the barrier to customization, and why trust may be the most durable moat in an increasingly competitive AI landscape.</p>
<p>If you’re building AI infrastructure, scaling agent-driven products, or leading an organization toward AI-first operations, this episode provides a deep view on the economic and architectural realities behind sustainable generative AI.</p>
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<p>Benny Yufei Chen is a technology professional with significant experience in software engineering and development. As a Co-Founder of Fireworks AI since November 2022, Benny has been instrumental in driving innovation in the industry. </p>
<p>Prior to this role, Benny spent over eight years at Facebook, progressing from an intern in 2013 to a Principal Software Engineer. During tenure at Facebook, Benny contributed to the Ads Integrity team, where efforts focused on ensuring compliance and quality of advertisements. </p>
<p>Previous roles include Lead Backend Engineer at talkways, where infrastructure setup and design were key responsibilities, and a Student Developer position at CCLE, specializing in PHP development. Benny earned a degree in Computer Science and Engineering from UCLA in 2015.</p>
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<p>“We're here to help businesses scale so they don't scale into bankruptcy. We are all running so fast and we're trying to find product market fit very quickly, [but] as these businesses try to automate more of their processes, it is very difficult to scale on top of frontier models. They're so expensive and for us to help the businesses flourish, we have to bring down their total cost of ownership.”</p>
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<p>[00:49] Welcoming Benny on the show</p>
<p>[2:56] How far along are customers in this AI first world?</p>
<p>[3:57] The massive surge of token usage this year</p>
<p>[7:27] Benny's journey from PyTorch to Fireworks AI</p>
<p>[12:18] Building a strong technical culture</p>
<p>[15:10] From experimentation to certainty with open-source</p>
<p>[19:00] Where Fireworks AI helps businesses most</p>
<p>[21:37] Tailwinds from the rise of this sector</p>
<p>[22:48] What is Eval Protocol</p>
<p>[30:36] Trust as a lasting business moat</p>
<p>[33:40] How prepared companies are for this tidal wave of AI innovation</p>
<p>[39:12] Enabling your teams to embrace this tech</p>
<p>[46:52] Benny's Human Prompt</p>
<p>—</p>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/benny-yufei-chen-2238575a" rel="noopener noreferrer">Connect with<i> </i>Benny Yufei Chen on LinkedIn</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://fireworks.ai/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Check out Fireworks AI</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/doshkim" rel="noopener noreferrer">Connect with John Kim on LinkedIn</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://sendbird.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Check out Sendbird</a></li>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the bottleneck for AI innovation shifts away from the training layer, what will power the next wave of widespread enterprise implementation? On this episode of <i>MindMakers</i>, John Kim is joined by Fireworks AI’s Co-Founder, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/benny-yufei-chen-2238575a" rel="noopener noreferrer">Benny Yufei Chen</a>, to explore why inference has become the most critical layer in the AI stack.</p>
<p>Drawing from his experience on the PyTorch team at Meta and building large-scale production systems, Benny shares why his team set off to found Fireworks AI on what many initially saw as a contrarian belief. Today, as companies consume trillions of tokens and race to automate workflows, this episode dives into why cost efficiency, model evaluation, and reinforcement learning are becoming strategic advantages.</p>
<p>Benny also explains why open source models are here to stay, how reinforcement learning with verifiable feedback lowers the barrier to customization, and why trust may be the most durable moat in an increasingly competitive AI landscape.</p>
<p>If you’re building AI infrastructure, scaling agent-driven products, or leading an organization toward AI-first operations, this episode provides a deep view on the economic and architectural realities behind sustainable generative AI.</p>
<p>—</p>
<p><strong>Guest Bio</strong></p>
<p>Benny Yufei Chen is a technology professional with significant experience in software engineering and development. As a Co-Founder of Fireworks AI since November 2022, Benny has been instrumental in driving innovation in the industry. </p>
<p>Prior to this role, Benny spent over eight years at Facebook, progressing from an intern in 2013 to a Principal Software Engineer. During tenure at Facebook, Benny contributed to the Ads Integrity team, where efforts focused on ensuring compliance and quality of advertisements. </p>
<p>Previous roles include Lead Backend Engineer at talkways, where infrastructure setup and design were key responsibilities, and a Student Developer position at CCLE, specializing in PHP development. Benny earned a degree in Computer Science and Engineering from UCLA in 2015.</p>
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<p><strong>Guest Quote</strong></p>
<p>“We're here to help businesses scale so they don't scale into bankruptcy. We are all running so fast and we're trying to find product market fit very quickly, [but] as these businesses try to automate more of their processes, it is very difficult to scale on top of frontier models. They're so expensive and for us to help the businesses flourish, we have to bring down their total cost of ownership.”</p>
<p>—</p>
<p><strong>Time Stamps  </strong></p>
<p>[00:49] Welcoming Benny on the show</p>
<p>[2:56] How far along are customers in this AI first world?</p>
<p>[3:57] The massive surge of token usage this year</p>
<p>[7:27] Benny's journey from PyTorch to Fireworks AI</p>
<p>[12:18] Building a strong technical culture</p>
<p>[15:10] From experimentation to certainty with open-source</p>
<p>[19:00] Where Fireworks AI helps businesses most</p>
<p>[21:37] Tailwinds from the rise of this sector</p>
<p>[22:48] What is Eval Protocol</p>
<p>[30:36] Trust as a lasting business moat</p>
<p>[33:40] How prepared companies are for this tidal wave of AI innovation</p>
<p>[39:12] Enabling your teams to embrace this tech</p>
<p>[46:52] Benny's Human Prompt</p>
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<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/benny-yufei-chen-2238575a" rel="noopener noreferrer">Connect with<i> </i>Benny Yufei Chen on LinkedIn</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://fireworks.ai/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Check out Fireworks AI</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/doshkim" rel="noopener noreferrer">Connect with John Kim on LinkedIn</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://sendbird.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Check out Sendbird</a></li>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What’s really driving the next leap in AI for software development? On this episode of <i>MindMakers</i>, host John Kim sits down with Guy Gur-Ari, the Co-Founder of Augment Code, to unpack why the future of enterprise engineering isn’t just AI-generated code, it’s agentic systems that understand context at scale.</p><p>Guy shares how Augment is helping large teams move beyond code completions into autonomous workflows, from feature builds to production incident response. You’ll hear why adoption isn’t just a tooling challenge but a behavioral shift, what most leaders misunderstand about “vibe coding,” and how the right context engine changes everything.</p><p>Whether you’re deploying AI across a legacy codebase or rethinking developer velocity with agents, this conversation offers sharp insight into the real opportunities and hidden obstacles enterprises face ahead.</p><p>—</p><p><strong>Guest Bio</strong></p><p>Guy co-founded Augment Code after a stint at Google where he led a research team that focused on understanding and improving deep learning systems. He holds a Ph.D in theoretical physics from the Weizmann Institute of Science.</p><p>—</p><p><strong>Guest Quote</strong></p><p>“As the cost of code generation goes to zero, do we still live in a world where you need one company to build an app for millions of users to use, or can it become a lot more customizable? Maybe I can now create my own apps, or maybe take some sort of template of an app, but do a lot of customization on it to suit exactly my needs.”</p><p>—</p><p><strong>Time Stamps  </strong></p><p>00:00 Episode start</p><p>01:05 Augment Code's Origins</p><p>02:20 The new age of AI coding assistants</p><p>05:05 How Augment Code stands out</p><p>09:25 Overcoming developer hesitations</p><p>14:30 Staying ahead in a rapidly evolving industry</p><p>19:20 Tackling security risks</p><p>28:05 What's next with agentic platforms</p><p>40:05 Largest misconception about vibe coding</p><p>43:25 Changing mindsets</p><p>45:40 Guy's Human Prompt</p><p>—</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/guy-gur-ari/">Connect with<i> </i>Guy Gur-Ari on LinkedIn</a></li><li><a href="https://www.augmentcode.com/">Check out Augment Code</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/doshkim">Connect with John Kim on LinkedIn</a></li><li><a href="https://sendbird.com/">Check out Sendbird</a></li></ul><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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