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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Four months after taking office in May 1996, Italian prime minister Romano Prodi flew to Valencia for a bilateral summit with his Spanish counterpart José María Aznar. Germany, France and the EU's core members were getting ready to create the euro but Italy needed more time to get its economy in order. In Valencia, Prodi lobbied Aznar to join him in a second wave but met a firm veto. "The Aznar position was very tough and somehow shocking for both Prodi and (Treasury minister) Ciampi," says Vincenzo Visco, Prodi's finance minister. "During the flight back to Italy ... Ciampi convinced Prodi to try to enter in the first group". Why and how?</p><p>In The Room is a series of conversations with officials who played crucial roles in the history of the EU.</p><p>Edited and produced by <a href="https://www.fiverr.com/davidstudio">davidstudio</a>.</p><p>This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://twentyfourtwo.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=CTA_1">twentyfourtwo.substack.com</a></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <title>&quot;We backed down and we started again&quot; with Andrew McDowell</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>In 2011, a new Irish coalition took office under Enda Kenny only four months after its predecessor was forced to seek a sovereign bailout. It was left to the Kenny government to pick up the pieces after the collapse of the debt-fuelled “Celtic Tiger” and negotiate a better deal. From 2011-2016,</p><p><strong>Andrew McDowell</strong> was at Kenny’s side as his head of programme implementation and chief economic adviser – bargaining with (among others) German Chancellor Angela Merkel and two European Central Bank presidents.</p><p><strong>In The Room</strong> is a series of conversations with officials who played crucial roles in the recent history of the EU.</p><p>Glossary: <a href="http://bit.ly/3KduEUe">bit.ly/3KduEUe</a>.</p><p>Edited and produced by <a href="https://www.fiverr.com/davidstudio">davidstudio</a>.</p><p>This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://twentyfourtwo.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=CTA_1">twentyfourtwo.substack.com</a></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2023 11:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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Glossary: bit.ly/3KduEUe.
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Glossary: bit.ly/3KduEUe.
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