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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this very special episode, Kate and Greg have <i>literally</i> walked into a bar. Tune in to the team’s firstever live podcast, recorded in a Melbourne bar and in front of an audience (and yes, drinks were involved).</p>
<p>They’re joined by Catherine Jeffries, Director of Health, Safety & Wellbeing at Monash Health, who shares practical, frontline insights into leading a psychosocial risk management strategy within one of Victoria’s largest and most complex organisations. Together, they unpack what it really looks like to operate under Victoria’s psychosocial regulations—three months on. (And yes, Victoria was the final piece of the national regulatory puzzle. Kate would like it on the record that this was absolutely not her fault, despite Greg’s ongoing suggestions.)</p>
<p>In this two-part episode, the team kicks off with the Monash Health case study, which takes listeners through a series of twists and turns: maintaining employee privacy in complaints and investigations, sharing aggregate data across internal teams, leveraging digital platforms for consultation and risk assessment, and—most controversially—the use of green, amber, and red risk rating matrices, and the potential implications they pose for WHS prosecution defence.</p>
<p>In part two, Kate and Greg tackle when organisations should consider engaging psychosocial risk consultants, with CoPilot offering a few unsolicited thoughts of its own—before handing things over to a lively, audience driven Q&A.</p>
<p>It’s practical, provocative, and a little chaotic. Settle in, grab your drink of choice, and enjoy the mayhem that is psychosocial risk.</p>
<p><strong>Connect with us:</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-connors-09147228?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3B4OgtS9p%2BRL%2B5uHTlJeTJiQ%3D%3D" rel="noopener noreferrer">Kate Connors</a></li>
 <li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-smith-6a63449?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3BD2BPkvhRTU%2BOvAVtn8SEdw%3D%3D" rel="noopener noreferrer">Greg Smith</a></li>
 <li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://au.linkedin.com/company/emlgroup" rel="noopener noreferrer">EML</a></li>
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<p><strong>Resources:</strong></p>
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 <li>Elemental Psychology & Coaching  <a href="http://www.elementalcp.com.au/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">website</a></li>
 <li>Greg Smith – Safety Books <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Proving-Safety-problems-management-tyranny-ebook/dp/B0CYNVZ7H7/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3D2O8V51RPWUI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.h3ZROJcRioPtAVbULLxBoHyBnV7IlXGZ0l5nSYR34knYPJYUtD-eg869sj1bOePlanWNTnlh9BHb0-uR3esshNf4EPvYPqdqPaf5GXZoRGWGXY78mJK6CocYsbZfHaN96nEAGqUYXqKiN70an50XkAuaT8J0mnTurpWu3W86vmCufoHkYTYlEituyl1WrqToBPO0TkPBAW92Q5Svr_4S2QxtFn17mYToAevIYChYALlCSxo6BjTMgn6TywarSAqvlyzYk5T7KVwdCi2fT6LI8tH-ITmG8FnWr7eEC1HNYhw.pKhfu3MjAeJBoMk-g8U_p8pZ3hUOZQYzpAE3FMuej94&dib_tag=se&keywords=proving+safety&qid=1712665137&sprefix=proving+safety%2Caps%2C335&sr=8-2" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Proving Safety</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Paper-Safe-triumph-bureaucracy-management-ebook/dp/B07HVRZY8C/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=f3jik&content-id=amzn1.sym.3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_p=3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_r=355-6490314-2496629&pd_rd_wg=mxqB8&pd_rd_r=6ec8434a-2f92-49d0-8073-e83af1894804&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Paper Safe</a></li>
 <li>EML <a href="http://www.eml.com.au" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">website</a></li>
 <li>EML Psychosocial resources – <a href="https://www.eml.com.au/mutual-benefits/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Mutual Benefitshttps://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/</a></li>
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<p>Be sure to subscribe, leave us a review or send us a message.</p>
<p><p>This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets.&nbsp;For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.</p><p>The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of&nbsp;EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​</p><p><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/">Click here</a> for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.&nbsp;</p></p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this very special episode, Kate and Greg have <i>literally</i> walked into a bar. Tune in to the team’s firstever live podcast, recorded in a Melbourne bar and in front of an audience (and yes, drinks were involved).</p>
<p>They’re joined by Catherine Jeffries, Director of Health, Safety & Wellbeing at Monash Health, who shares practical, frontline insights into leading a psychosocial risk management strategy within one of Victoria’s largest and most complex organisations. Together, they unpack what it really looks like to operate under Victoria’s psychosocial regulations—three months on. (And yes, Victoria was the final piece of the national regulatory puzzle. Kate would like it on the record that this was absolutely not her fault, despite Greg’s ongoing suggestions.)</p>
<p>In this two-part episode, the team kicks off with the Monash Health case study, which takes listeners through a series of twists and turns: maintaining employee privacy in complaints and investigations, sharing aggregate data across internal teams, leveraging digital platforms for consultation and risk assessment, and—most controversially—the use of green, amber, and red risk rating matrices, and the potential implications they pose for WHS prosecution defence.</p>
<p>In part two, Kate and Greg tackle when organisations should consider engaging psychosocial risk consultants, with CoPilot offering a few unsolicited thoughts of its own—before handing things over to a lively, audience driven Q&A.</p>
<p>It’s practical, provocative, and a little chaotic. Settle in, grab your drink of choice, and enjoy the mayhem that is psychosocial risk.</p>
<p><strong>Connect with us:</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-connors-09147228?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3B4OgtS9p%2BRL%2B5uHTlJeTJiQ%3D%3D" rel="noopener noreferrer">Kate Connors</a></li>
 <li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-smith-6a63449?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3BD2BPkvhRTU%2BOvAVtn8SEdw%3D%3D" rel="noopener noreferrer">Greg Smith</a></li>
 <li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://au.linkedin.com/company/emlgroup" rel="noopener noreferrer">EML</a></li>
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<p><strong>Resources:</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>Elemental Psychology & Coaching  <a href="http://www.elementalcp.com.au/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">website</a></li>
 <li>Greg Smith – Safety Books <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Proving-Safety-problems-management-tyranny-ebook/dp/B0CYNVZ7H7/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3D2O8V51RPWUI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.h3ZROJcRioPtAVbULLxBoHyBnV7IlXGZ0l5nSYR34knYPJYUtD-eg869sj1bOePlanWNTnlh9BHb0-uR3esshNf4EPvYPqdqPaf5GXZoRGWGXY78mJK6CocYsbZfHaN96nEAGqUYXqKiN70an50XkAuaT8J0mnTurpWu3W86vmCufoHkYTYlEituyl1WrqToBPO0TkPBAW92Q5Svr_4S2QxtFn17mYToAevIYChYALlCSxo6BjTMgn6TywarSAqvlyzYk5T7KVwdCi2fT6LI8tH-ITmG8FnWr7eEC1HNYhw.pKhfu3MjAeJBoMk-g8U_p8pZ3hUOZQYzpAE3FMuej94&dib_tag=se&keywords=proving+safety&qid=1712665137&sprefix=proving+safety%2Caps%2C335&sr=8-2" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Proving Safety</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Paper-Safe-triumph-bureaucracy-management-ebook/dp/B07HVRZY8C/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=f3jik&content-id=amzn1.sym.3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_p=3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_r=355-6490314-2496629&pd_rd_wg=mxqB8&pd_rd_r=6ec8434a-2f92-49d0-8073-e83af1894804&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Paper Safe</a></li>
 <li>EML <a href="http://www.eml.com.au" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">website</a></li>
 <li>EML Psychosocial resources – <a href="https://www.eml.com.au/mutual-benefits/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Mutual Benefitshttps://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/</a></li>
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</ul>
<p>Be sure to subscribe, leave us a review or send us a message.</p>
<p><p>This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets.&nbsp;For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.</p><p>The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of&nbsp;EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​</p><p><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/">Click here</a> for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.&nbsp;</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>On 18 November 2025, the most significant changes to the NSW workers compensation scheme in over a decade were announced. In this special episode of Judgemental, Kate and Greg sit down with Gillian, Legal Manager for EML, to unpack what these reforms mean for businesses and employees in NSW.</p><p>The discussion dives into the core focus of the reforms - psychological injury claims, which have surged in recent years and increased scheme costs. Gillian explains why these changes were necessary and what practical impacts they will have for workplaces and the claims process. The discussion shapes up to cover the intersection of workers compensation legislation to WHS and employment law, and of course, psychosocial risk management. </p><p>Grab a drink of choice and join Kate, Greg and Gillian to understand what these reforms will mean both directly and indirectly for NSW workplaces.</p><p><strong>Connect with us:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-connors-09147228?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3B4OgtS9p%2BRL%2B5uHTlJeTJiQ%3D%3D">Kate Connors</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-smith-6a63449?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3BD2BPkvhRTU%2BOvAVtn8SEdw%3D%3D">Greg Smith</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://au.linkedin.com/company/emlgroup">EML</a></li></ul><p><strong>Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/latest-news/proposed-nsw-reforms-bulletin/" target="_blank">EML NSW Employer Webinar</a> on the legislative changes</li><li>NSW Parliament – <a href="https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/bills/Pages/bill-details.aspx?pk=18747" target="_blank">Workers Compensation Legislation Amendment Bill 2025</a></li><li>Elemental Psychology & Coaching  <a href="http://www.elementalcp.com.au/" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>Greg Smith – Safety Books <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Proving-Safety-problems-management-tyranny-ebook/dp/B0CYNVZ7H7/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3D2O8V51RPWUI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.h3ZROJcRioPtAVbULLxBoHyBnV7IlXGZ0l5nSYR34knYPJYUtD-eg869sj1bOePlanWNTnlh9BHb0-uR3esshNf4EPvYPqdqPaf5GXZoRGWGXY78mJK6CocYsbZfHaN96nEAGqUYXqKiN70an50XkAuaT8J0mnTurpWu3W86vmCufoHkYTYlEituyl1WrqToBPO0TkPBAW92Q5Svr_4S2QxtFn17mYToAevIYChYALlCSxo6BjTMgn6TywarSAqvlyzYk5T7KVwdCi2fT6LI8tH-ITmG8FnWr7eEC1HNYhw.pKhfu3MjAeJBoMk-g8U_p8pZ3hUOZQYzpAE3FMuej94&dib_tag=se&keywords=proving+safety&qid=1712665137&sprefix=proving+safety%2Caps%2C335&sr=8-2" target="_blank">Proving Safety</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Paper-Safe-triumph-bureaucracy-management-ebook/dp/B07HVRZY8C/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=f3jik&content-id=amzn1.sym.3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_p=3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_r=355-6490314-2496629&pd_rd_wg=mxqB8&pd_rd_r=6ec8434a-2f92-49d0-8073-e83af1894804&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk" target="_blank">Paper Safe</a></li><li>EML <a href="http://www.eml.com.au" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>EML Psychosocial resources – <a href="https://www.eml.com.au/mutual-benefits/" target="_blank">Mutual Benefitshttps://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/</a></li></ul><p><br /><strong>Follow Judgemental: A psychologist and a lawyer walk into a bar</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2aZfevywW2IAdc4wwM4KS0?si=2b8b3bc9c0814d74" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/judgemental-a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar/id1778373417" target="_blank">Apple</a></li><li><a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ce825f54-f9c9-44f3-8a48-486f7f35bc2c/judgemental---a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxm__fAThjyztCIC6jTChX2w4RTAQIJC4" target="_blank">Youtube</a></li></ul><p>Be sure to subscribe, leave us a review or send us a message.</p>
<p><p>This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets.&nbsp;For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.</p><p>The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of&nbsp;EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​</p><p><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/">Click here</a> for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.&nbsp;</p></p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 18 November 2025, the most significant changes to the NSW workers compensation scheme in over a decade were announced. In this special episode of Judgemental, Kate and Greg sit down with Gillian, Legal Manager for EML, to unpack what these reforms mean for businesses and employees in NSW.</p><p>The discussion dives into the core focus of the reforms - psychological injury claims, which have surged in recent years and increased scheme costs. Gillian explains why these changes were necessary and what practical impacts they will have for workplaces and the claims process. The discussion shapes up to cover the intersection of workers compensation legislation to WHS and employment law, and of course, psychosocial risk management. </p><p>Grab a drink of choice and join Kate, Greg and Gillian to understand what these reforms will mean both directly and indirectly for NSW workplaces.</p><p><strong>Connect with us:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-connors-09147228?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3B4OgtS9p%2BRL%2B5uHTlJeTJiQ%3D%3D">Kate Connors</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-smith-6a63449?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3BD2BPkvhRTU%2BOvAVtn8SEdw%3D%3D">Greg Smith</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://au.linkedin.com/company/emlgroup">EML</a></li></ul><p><strong>Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/latest-news/proposed-nsw-reforms-bulletin/" target="_blank">EML NSW Employer Webinar</a> on the legislative changes</li><li>NSW Parliament – <a href="https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/bills/Pages/bill-details.aspx?pk=18747" target="_blank">Workers Compensation Legislation Amendment Bill 2025</a></li><li>Elemental Psychology & Coaching  <a href="http://www.elementalcp.com.au/" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>Greg Smith – Safety Books <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Proving-Safety-problems-management-tyranny-ebook/dp/B0CYNVZ7H7/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3D2O8V51RPWUI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.h3ZROJcRioPtAVbULLxBoHyBnV7IlXGZ0l5nSYR34knYPJYUtD-eg869sj1bOePlanWNTnlh9BHb0-uR3esshNf4EPvYPqdqPaf5GXZoRGWGXY78mJK6CocYsbZfHaN96nEAGqUYXqKiN70an50XkAuaT8J0mnTurpWu3W86vmCufoHkYTYlEituyl1WrqToBPO0TkPBAW92Q5Svr_4S2QxtFn17mYToAevIYChYALlCSxo6BjTMgn6TywarSAqvlyzYk5T7KVwdCi2fT6LI8tH-ITmG8FnWr7eEC1HNYhw.pKhfu3MjAeJBoMk-g8U_p8pZ3hUOZQYzpAE3FMuej94&dib_tag=se&keywords=proving+safety&qid=1712665137&sprefix=proving+safety%2Caps%2C335&sr=8-2" target="_blank">Proving Safety</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Paper-Safe-triumph-bureaucracy-management-ebook/dp/B07HVRZY8C/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=f3jik&content-id=amzn1.sym.3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_p=3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_r=355-6490314-2496629&pd_rd_wg=mxqB8&pd_rd_r=6ec8434a-2f92-49d0-8073-e83af1894804&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk" target="_blank">Paper Safe</a></li><li>EML <a href="http://www.eml.com.au" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>EML Psychosocial resources – <a href="https://www.eml.com.au/mutual-benefits/" target="_blank">Mutual Benefitshttps://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/</a></li></ul><p><br /><strong>Follow Judgemental: A psychologist and a lawyer walk into a bar</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2aZfevywW2IAdc4wwM4KS0?si=2b8b3bc9c0814d74" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/judgemental-a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar/id1778373417" target="_blank">Apple</a></li><li><a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ce825f54-f9c9-44f3-8a48-486f7f35bc2c/judgemental---a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxm__fAThjyztCIC6jTChX2w4RTAQIJC4" target="_blank">Youtube</a></li></ul><p>Be sure to subscribe, leave us a review or send us a message.</p>
<p><p>This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets.&nbsp;For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.</p><p>The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of&nbsp;EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​</p><p><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/">Click here</a> for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.&nbsp;</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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<p><p>This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets.&nbsp;For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.</p><p>The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of&nbsp;EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​</p><p><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/">Click here</a> for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.&nbsp;</p></p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the final episode of Series 2, Kate and Greg settle into their metaphorical bar stools with cocktails in hand to unpack a recent Fair Work Commission decision that, while legally unremarkable, opens up a typically rich and thought provoking conversation.</p><p>The case involves a worker placed on a performance management plan, who later lodged an anti-bullying application. Though the Commission found no bullying, it did note the applicant’s “idiosyncratic personalised belief system” – prompting Kate & Greg to consider the limited number of circumstances where such phrasing isn’t open to appeal.    </p><p>As always, the episode is equal parts sharp analysis and warm banter with both Kate and Greg naming their favourite conversations from Series 2. Which was yours?</p><p> </p><p><strong>Connect with us:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-connors-09147228?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3B4OgtS9p%2BRL%2B5uHTlJeTJiQ%3D%3D">Kate Connors</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-smith-6a63449?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3BD2BPkvhRTU%2BOvAVtn8SEdw%3D%3D">Greg Smith</a></li><li>LinkedIn – EML</li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/mutual-benefits-program/">Mutual Benefits Program</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><strong>Articles:</strong></p><ul><li>Fair Work Commision decision – available <a href="https://www.fwc.gov.au/document-search/view/1/aHR0cHM6Ly9zYXNyY2RhdGFwcmRhdWVhYS5ibG9iLmNvcmUud2luZG93cy5uZXQvZGVjaXNpb25zLzIwMjUvMDkvUFI3OTIwMTM1ODkzMTYyNzczYjM2YzAwLTExN" target="_blank">here</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><strong>Resources:</strong></p><ul><li>Elemental Psychology & Coaching  <a href="http://www.elementalcp.com.au/" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>Greg Smith – Safety Books <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Proving-Safety-problems-management-tyranny-ebook/dp/B0CYNVZ7H7/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3D2O8V51RPWUI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.h3ZROJcRioPtAVbULLxBoHyBnV7IlXGZ0l5nSYR34knYPJYUtD-eg869sj1bOePlanWNTnlh9BHb0-uR3esshNf4EPvYPqdqPaf5GXZoRGWGXY78mJK6CocYsbZfHaN96nEAGqUYXqKiN70an50XkAuaT8J0mnTurpWu3W86vmCufoHkYTYlEituyl1WrqToBPO0TkPBAW92Q5Svr_4S2QxtFn17mYToAevIYChYALlCSxo6BjTMgn6TywarSAqvlyzYk5T7KVwdCi2fT6LI8tH-ITmG8FnWr7eEC1HNYhw.pKhfu3MjAeJBoMk-g8U_p8pZ3hUOZQYzpAE3FMuej94&dib_tag=se&keywords=proving+safety&qid=1712665137&sprefix=proving+safety%2Caps%2C335&sr=8-2" target="_blank">Proving Safety</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Paper-Safe-triumph-bureaucracy-management-ebook/dp/B07HVRZY8C/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=f3jik&content-id=amzn1.sym.3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_p=3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_r=355-6490314-2496629&pd_rd_wg=mxqB8&pd_rd_r=6ec8434a-2f92-49d0-8073-e83af1894804&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk" target="_blank">Paper Safe</a></li><li>EML <a href="http://www.eml.com.au" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>EML Psychosocial resources – <a href="https://www.eml.com.au/mutual-benefits/" target="_blank">Mutual Benefitshttps://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Follow Judgemental: A psychologist and a lawyer walk into a bar</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2aZfevywW2IAdc4wwM4KS0?si=2b8b3bc9c0814d74" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/judgemental-a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar/id1778373417" target="_blank">Apple</a></li><li><a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ce825f54-f9c9-44f3-8a48-486f7f35bc2c/judgemental---a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxm__fAThjyztCIC6jTChX2w4RTAQIJC4" target="_blank">Youtube</a></li></ul><p>Be sure to subscribe, leave us a review or send us a message.</p>
<p><p>This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets.&nbsp;For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.</p><p>The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of&nbsp;EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​</p><p><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/">Click here</a> for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.&nbsp;</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Kate and Greg dive into a recent Fair Work Commission case that brings psychosocial risk management and constructive dismissal into sharp focus.</p><p>Their conversation once again explores the complex landscape of psychosocial hazards, with particular attention to sexual harassment and organisational justice. The case provides a timely opportunity for Greg to unpack the concept of <i>constructive dismissal</i>—a specific form of <i>unfair dismissal</i>—and explain the emerging implications for employers as a distinct employment risk separate, yet as always closely connected to, their workplace health & safety risks.  </p><p>Kate and Greg also examine internal investigation processes, which are central to how organisational justice is experienced. Recognising these investigations as pivotal “moments that matter,” they ponder a critical question: <i>Why isn’t organisational justice more prominently featured as a critical risk on workplace risk registers?</i></p><p>The episode touches on key themes such as confidentiality, workforce consultation, and the importance of clear, consistent, and transparent communication during internal investigations. The conversation reinforces that these elements are essential to fostering a sense of safety and fairness in the workplace.</p><p>As always, Kate and Greg bring their signature insight and candour to another engaging bar-side chat. Grab a drink, get comfy and listen in!</p><p> </p><p><strong>Connect with us:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-connors-09147228?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3B4OgtS9p%2BRL%2B5uHTlJeTJiQ%3D%3D">Kate Connors</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-smith-6a63449?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3BD2BPkvhRTU%2BOvAVtn8SEdw%3D%3D">Greg Smith</a></li><li>LinkedIn – EML</li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/mutual-benefits-program/">Mutual Benefits Program</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><strong>Articles:</strong></p><ul><li>Fair Work Act Decision – s394 – <a href="https://www.fwc.gov.au/documents/decisionssigned/pdf/2025fwc2823.pdf" target="_blank">Unfair dismiss</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><strong>Resources:</strong></p><ul><li>Elemental Psychology & Coaching  <a href="http://www.elementalcp.com.au/" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>Greg Smith – Safety Books <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Proving-Safety-problems-management-tyranny-ebook/dp/B0CYNVZ7H7/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3D2O8V51RPWUI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.h3ZROJcRioPtAVbULLxBoHyBnV7IlXGZ0l5nSYR34knYPJYUtD-eg869sj1bOePlanWNTnlh9BHb0-uR3esshNf4EPvYPqdqPaf5GXZoRGWGXY78mJK6CocYsbZfHaN96nEAGqUYXqKiN70an50XkAuaT8J0mnTurpWu3W86vmCufoHkYTYlEituyl1WrqToBPO0TkPBAW92Q5Svr_4S2QxtFn17mYToAevIYChYALlCSxo6BjTMgn6TywarSAqvlyzYk5T7KVwdCi2fT6LI8tH-ITmG8FnWr7eEC1HNYhw.pKhfu3MjAeJBoMk-g8U_p8pZ3hUOZQYzpAE3FMuej94&dib_tag=se&keywords=proving+safety&qid=1712665137&sprefix=proving+safety%2Caps%2C335&sr=8-2" target="_blank">Proving Safety</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Paper-Safe-triumph-bureaucracy-management-ebook/dp/B07HVRZY8C/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=f3jik&content-id=amzn1.sym.3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_p=3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_r=355-6490314-2496629&pd_rd_wg=mxqB8&pd_rd_r=6ec8434a-2f92-49d0-8073-e83af1894804&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk" target="_blank">Paper Safe</a></li><li>EML <a href="http://www.eml.com.au" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>EML Psychosocial resources – <a href="https://www.eml.com.au/mutual-benefits/" target="_blank">Mutual Benefitshttps://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Follow Judgemental: A psychologist and a lawyer walk into a bar</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2aZfevywW2IAdc4wwM4KS0?si=2b8b3bc9c0814d74" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/judgemental-a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar/id1778373417" target="_blank">Apple</a></li><li><a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ce825f54-f9c9-44f3-8a48-486f7f35bc2c/judgemental---a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxm__fAThjyztCIC6jTChX2w4RTAQIJC4" target="_blank">Youtube</a></li></ul><p>Be sure to subscribe, leave us a review or send us a message.</p>
<p><p>This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets.&nbsp;For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.</p><p>The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of&nbsp;EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​</p><p><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/">Click here</a> for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.&nbsp;</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2025 06:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>gws@outlook.com.au (Greg Smith and Kate Connors)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Kate and Greg dive into a recent Fair Work Commission case that brings psychosocial risk management and constructive dismissal into sharp focus.</p><p>Their conversation once again explores the complex landscape of psychosocial hazards, with particular attention to sexual harassment and organisational justice. The case provides a timely opportunity for Greg to unpack the concept of <i>constructive dismissal</i>—a specific form of <i>unfair dismissal</i>—and explain the emerging implications for employers as a distinct employment risk separate, yet as always closely connected to, their workplace health & safety risks.  </p><p>Kate and Greg also examine internal investigation processes, which are central to how organisational justice is experienced. Recognising these investigations as pivotal “moments that matter,” they ponder a critical question: <i>Why isn’t organisational justice more prominently featured as a critical risk on workplace risk registers?</i></p><p>The episode touches on key themes such as confidentiality, workforce consultation, and the importance of clear, consistent, and transparent communication during internal investigations. The conversation reinforces that these elements are essential to fostering a sense of safety and fairness in the workplace.</p><p>As always, Kate and Greg bring their signature insight and candour to another engaging bar-side chat. Grab a drink, get comfy and listen in!</p><p> </p><p><strong>Connect with us:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-connors-09147228?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3B4OgtS9p%2BRL%2B5uHTlJeTJiQ%3D%3D">Kate Connors</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-smith-6a63449?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3BD2BPkvhRTU%2BOvAVtn8SEdw%3D%3D">Greg Smith</a></li><li>LinkedIn – EML</li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/mutual-benefits-program/">Mutual Benefits Program</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><strong>Articles:</strong></p><ul><li>Fair Work Act Decision – s394 – <a href="https://www.fwc.gov.au/documents/decisionssigned/pdf/2025fwc2823.pdf" target="_blank">Unfair dismiss</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><strong>Resources:</strong></p><ul><li>Elemental Psychology & Coaching  <a href="http://www.elementalcp.com.au/" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>Greg Smith – Safety Books <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Proving-Safety-problems-management-tyranny-ebook/dp/B0CYNVZ7H7/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3D2O8V51RPWUI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.h3ZROJcRioPtAVbULLxBoHyBnV7IlXGZ0l5nSYR34knYPJYUtD-eg869sj1bOePlanWNTnlh9BHb0-uR3esshNf4EPvYPqdqPaf5GXZoRGWGXY78mJK6CocYsbZfHaN96nEAGqUYXqKiN70an50XkAuaT8J0mnTurpWu3W86vmCufoHkYTYlEituyl1WrqToBPO0TkPBAW92Q5Svr_4S2QxtFn17mYToAevIYChYALlCSxo6BjTMgn6TywarSAqvlyzYk5T7KVwdCi2fT6LI8tH-ITmG8FnWr7eEC1HNYhw.pKhfu3MjAeJBoMk-g8U_p8pZ3hUOZQYzpAE3FMuej94&dib_tag=se&keywords=proving+safety&qid=1712665137&sprefix=proving+safety%2Caps%2C335&sr=8-2" target="_blank">Proving Safety</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Paper-Safe-triumph-bureaucracy-management-ebook/dp/B07HVRZY8C/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=f3jik&content-id=amzn1.sym.3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_p=3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_r=355-6490314-2496629&pd_rd_wg=mxqB8&pd_rd_r=6ec8434a-2f92-49d0-8073-e83af1894804&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk" target="_blank">Paper Safe</a></li><li>EML <a href="http://www.eml.com.au" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>EML Psychosocial resources – <a href="https://www.eml.com.au/mutual-benefits/" target="_blank">Mutual Benefitshttps://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Follow Judgemental: A psychologist and a lawyer walk into a bar</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2aZfevywW2IAdc4wwM4KS0?si=2b8b3bc9c0814d74" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/judgemental-a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar/id1778373417" target="_blank">Apple</a></li><li><a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ce825f54-f9c9-44f3-8a48-486f7f35bc2c/judgemental---a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxm__fAThjyztCIC6jTChX2w4RTAQIJC4" target="_blank">Youtube</a></li></ul><p>Be sure to subscribe, leave us a review or send us a message.</p>
<p><p>This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets.&nbsp;For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.</p><p>The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of&nbsp;EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​</p><p><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/">Click here</a> for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.&nbsp;</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Inside the minds of Australia’s workplaces</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>In a Judgemental first – Kate and Greg are in the same location as they sit down with Keith Govias, Workplace Safety & Risk Principal for EML and dive inside the minds of Australia’s Workplaces. Mental health conditions now account for an increasing proportion of workers compensation and personal injury claims across the country. To better understand the landscape, EML commissioned research conducted by Monash University’s Healthy Working Lives Research Group. By analysing four major national data sets across workers (those with compensation claims, and those with mental health-related claims), the paper delivers important insights psychosocial risk management. </p><p>Grab a drink of choice and join Kate, Greg and Keith to unpack the research – which offers more than just insights - it’s a clear call to action.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>Connect with us:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/keith-govias-93195639/?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3B00%2BrUt5fTCS2hlSUGibASw%3D%3D">Keith Govias </a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-connors-09147228?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3B4OgtS9p%2BRL%2B5uHTlJeTJiQ%3D%3D">Kate Connors</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-smith-6a63449?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3BD2BPkvhRTU%2BOvAVtn8SEdw%3D%3D">Greg Smith</a></li><li>LinkedIn – EML</li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/mutual-benefits-program/">Mutual Benefits Program</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Resources:</strong></p><ul><li>Elemental Psychology & Coaching  <a href="http://www.elementalcp.com.au/" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>Greg Smith – Safety Books <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Proving-Safety-problems-management-tyranny-ebook/dp/B0CYNVZ7H7/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3D2O8V51RPWUI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.h3ZROJcRioPtAVbULLxBoHyBnV7IlXGZ0l5nSYR34knYPJYUtD-eg869sj1bOePlanWNTnlh9BHb0-uR3esshNf4EPvYPqdqPaf5GXZoRGWGXY78mJK6CocYsbZfHaN96nEAGqUYXqKiN70an50XkAuaT8J0mnTurpWu3W86vmCufoHkYTYlEituyl1WrqToBPO0TkPBAW92Q5Svr_4S2QxtFn17mYToAevIYChYALlCSxo6BjTMgn6TywarSAqvlyzYk5T7KVwdCi2fT6LI8tH-ITmG8FnWr7eEC1HNYhw.pKhfu3MjAeJBoMk-g8U_p8pZ3hUOZQYzpAE3FMuej94&dib_tag=se&keywords=proving+safety&qid=1712665137&sprefix=proving+safety%2Caps%2C335&sr=8-2" target="_blank">Proving Safety</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Paper-Safe-triumph-bureaucracy-management-ebook/dp/B07HVRZY8C/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=f3jik&content-id=amzn1.sym.3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_p=3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_r=355-6490314-2496629&pd_rd_wg=mxqB8&pd_rd_r=6ec8434a-2f92-49d0-8073-e83af1894804&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk" target="_blank">Paper Safe</a></li><li>EML <a href="http://www.eml.com.au" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>EML Psychosocial resources – <a href="https://www.eml.com.au/mutual-benefits/" target="_blank">Mutual Benefitshttps://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Follow Judgemental: A psychologist and a lawyer walk into a bar</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2aZfevywW2IAdc4wwM4KS0?si=2b8b3bc9c0814d74" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/judgemental-a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar/id1778373417" target="_blank">Apple</a></li><li><a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ce825f54-f9c9-44f3-8a48-486f7f35bc2c/judgemental---a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxm__fAThjyztCIC6jTChX2w4RTAQIJC4" target="_blank">Youtube</a></li></ul><p>Be sure to subscribe, leave us a review or send us a message.</p>
<p><p>This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets.&nbsp;For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.</p><p>The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of&nbsp;EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​</p><p><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/">Click here</a> for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.&nbsp;</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2025 00:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>gws@outlook.com.au (Greg Smith and Kate Connors)</author>
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<p><p>This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets.&nbsp;For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.</p><p>The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of&nbsp;EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​</p><p><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/">Click here</a> for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.&nbsp;</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Each year, the month of June is dedicated to increasing public knowledge about PTSD, a condition that can arise from various traumatic experiences, not just combat or obvious traumatic events. In this episode of the Judgemental Podcast, Kate and Greg recognise PTSD Awareness month by delving into the complexity of vicarious trauma – one of the twelve psychosocial risks. </p><p>To help navigate this important conversation, they’re joined in the virtual bar by Amy Nicholas, author of the 2023 Churchill Fellowship-sponsored report, “Mitigating Vicarious Trauma: Adopting an Occupational Safety Approach.” Amy’s groundbreaking work draws on insights from leading global practitioners and academics who are dedicated to understanding, preventing, and responding to the harm associated with exposure to traumatic content.</p><p>Together, Kate, Greg, and Amy unpack the report’s key findings, including:</p><p>• The distinct “pathways” through which vicarious trauma can cause harm</p><p>• The protective factors that organisations must intentionally design for</p><p>• Practical work design controls and real-world case studies that offer hope and direction</p><p>As always, there’s a moment for the legal lens to come into focus—this time exploring the evolving landscape of codes of practice, regulation, and legislation surrounding psychosocial hazards in the workplace.</p><p>So whether you're sipping a hot chocolate, a calming tea, or something a little stronger, pull up a seat in the virtual bar and join Kate, Greg, and Amy for a thoughtful, timely, and important conversation.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>Connect with us:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-connors-09147228?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3B4OgtS9p%2BRL%2B5uHTlJeTJiQ%3D%3D" target="_blank">Kate Connors</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a 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NSWDC74</a></li><li>Elemental Psychology & Coaching  <a href="http://www.elementalcp.com.au/" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>Greg Smith – Safety Books <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Proving-Safety-problems-management-tyranny-ebook/dp/B0CYNVZ7H7/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3D2O8V51RPWUI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.h3ZROJcRioPtAVbULLxBoHyBnV7IlXGZ0l5nSYR34knYPJYUtD-eg869sj1bOePlanWNTnlh9BHb0-uR3esshNf4EPvYPqdqPaf5GXZoRGWGXY78mJK6CocYsbZfHaN96nEAGqUYXqKiN70an50XkAuaT8J0mnTurpWu3W86vmCufoHkYTYlEituyl1WrqToBPO0TkPBAW92Q5Svr_4S2QxtFn17mYToAevIYChYALlCSxo6BjTMgn6TywarSAqvlyzYk5T7KVwdCi2fT6LI8tH-ITmG8FnWr7eEC1HNYhw.pKhfu3MjAeJBoMk-g8U_p8pZ3hUOZQYzpAE3FMuej94&dib_tag=se&keywords=proving+safety&qid=1712665137&sprefix=proving+safety%2Caps%2C335&sr=8-2" target="_blank">Proving Safety</a> and <a 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<p><p>This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets.&nbsp;For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.</p><p>The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of&nbsp;EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​</p><p><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/">Click here</a> for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.&nbsp;</p></p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Each year, the month of June is dedicated to increasing public knowledge about PTSD, a condition that can arise from various traumatic experiences, not just combat or obvious traumatic events. In this episode of the Judgemental Podcast, Kate and Greg recognise PTSD Awareness month by delving into the complexity of vicarious trauma – one of the twelve psychosocial risks. </p><p>To help navigate this important conversation, they’re joined in the virtual bar by Amy Nicholas, author of the 2023 Churchill Fellowship-sponsored report, “Mitigating Vicarious Trauma: Adopting an Occupational Safety Approach.” Amy’s groundbreaking work draws on insights from leading global practitioners and academics who are dedicated to understanding, preventing, and responding to the harm associated with exposure to traumatic content.</p><p>Together, Kate, Greg, and Amy unpack the report’s key findings, including:</p><p>• The distinct “pathways” through which vicarious trauma 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NSWDC74</a></li><li>Elemental Psychology & Coaching  <a href="http://www.elementalcp.com.au/" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>Greg Smith – Safety Books <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Proving-Safety-problems-management-tyranny-ebook/dp/B0CYNVZ7H7/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3D2O8V51RPWUI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.h3ZROJcRioPtAVbULLxBoHyBnV7IlXGZ0l5nSYR34knYPJYUtD-eg869sj1bOePlanWNTnlh9BHb0-uR3esshNf4EPvYPqdqPaf5GXZoRGWGXY78mJK6CocYsbZfHaN96nEAGqUYXqKiN70an50XkAuaT8J0mnTurpWu3W86vmCufoHkYTYlEituyl1WrqToBPO0TkPBAW92Q5Svr_4S2QxtFn17mYToAevIYChYALlCSxo6BjTMgn6TywarSAqvlyzYk5T7KVwdCi2fT6LI8tH-ITmG8FnWr7eEC1HNYhw.pKhfu3MjAeJBoMk-g8U_p8pZ3hUOZQYzpAE3FMuej94&dib_tag=se&keywords=proving+safety&qid=1712665137&sprefix=proving+safety%2Caps%2C335&sr=8-2" target="_blank">Proving Safety</a> and <a 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<p><p>This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets.&nbsp;For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.</p><p>The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of&nbsp;EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​</p><p><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/">Click here</a> for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.&nbsp;</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In the third and final episode of the reasonable management action deep dive, the Judgemental team are joined by Erica Thuijs, Greg’s colleague and an expert in employer’s liability and workers compensation. </p><p>In this episode, Erica, Kate and Greg take the discussion straight into the workplace to explore the nuances of the various workers compensation jurisdictions in Australia, whilst examining the key considerations for employers. Concepts such as ‘reasonableness’, ‘fairness’ and ‘harshness’ are reviewed from a multitude of angles – encompassing legal, psychological and safety considerations for the workplace.</p><p>With the varied and somewhat opposing legal vs psychological frameworks in the mix, it’s another episode designed to nurture ponderings and reflections in the wonderful world of psychosocial risk.  </p><p><br />Grab a drink and join Kate, Greg and Erica at the bar.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>Connect with us:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-connors-09147228?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3B4OgtS9p%2BRL%2B5uHTlJeTJiQ%3D%3D" target="_blank">Kate Connors</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-smith-6a63449?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3BD2BPkvhRTU%2BOvAVtn8SEdw%3D%3D" target="_blank">Greg Smith</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericathuijs?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3BaiYfkJ2tQy6I6%2FAP9%2Beb2g%3D%3D" target="_blank">Erica Thijs</a></li><li>LinkedIn – EML</li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/mutual-benefits-program/">Mutual Benefits Program</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://www6.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/wa/WASCA/2018/1.html" target="_blank">District court of Western Australia, Suleski -v- Pilbara Iron Company (Services) Pty Ltd, 17 August 2018</a></li><li><a href="https://www6.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/cth/HCA/2016/43.html" target="_blank">High Court of Australia, Comcare v Martin [2016] HCA 43 (9 November 2016)</a></li><li><a href="https://www.scribd.com/document/811380041/Root-Causes-Analysis" target="_blank">Livingston, Jackson & Priestley (2021) Root causes analysis: Literature review</a></li><li><a target="_blank">Dr Ivan Pupulidy</a> and <a target="_blank">Crista Vesel</a> -  <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Human-Organization-Potential-Black-Australia/dp/B0CQVHJSYW" target="_blank">Human and Organisational Potential</a></li><li>Elemental Psychology & Coaching  <a href="http://www.elementalcp.com.au/" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>Greg Smith – Safety Books <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Proving-Safety-problems-management-tyranny-ebook/dp/B0CYNVZ7H7/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3D2O8V51RPWUI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.h3ZROJcRioPtAVbULLxBoHyBnV7IlXGZ0l5nSYR34knYPJYUtD-eg869sj1bOePlanWNTnlh9BHb0-uR3esshNf4EPvYPqdqPaf5GXZoRGWGXY78mJK6CocYsbZfHaN96nEAGqUYXqKiN70an50XkAuaT8J0mnTurpWu3W86vmCufoHkYTYlEituyl1WrqToBPO0TkPBAW92Q5Svr_4S2QxtFn17mYToAevIYChYALlCSxo6BjTMgn6TywarSAqvlyzYk5T7KVwdCi2fT6LI8tH-ITmG8FnWr7eEC1HNYhw.pKhfu3MjAeJBoMk-g8U_p8pZ3hUOZQYzpAE3FMuej94&dib_tag=se&keywords=proving+safety&qid=1712665137&sprefix=proving+safety%2Caps%2C335&sr=8-2" target="_blank">Proving Safety</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Paper-Safe-triumph-bureaucracy-management-ebook/dp/B07HVRZY8C/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=f3jik&content-id=amzn1.sym.3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_p=3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_r=355-6490314-2496629&pd_rd_wg=mxqB8&pd_rd_r=6ec8434a-2f92-49d0-8073-e83af1894804&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk" target="_blank">Paper Safe</a></li><li>EML <a href="http://www.eml.com.au" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>EML Psychosocial resources – <a href="https://www.eml.com.au/mutual-benefits/" target="_blank">Mutual Benefitshttps://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Follow Judgemental: A psychologist and a lawyer walk into a bar</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2aZfevywW2IAdc4wwM4KS0?si=2b8b3bc9c0814d74" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/judgemental-a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar/id1778373417" target="_blank">Apple</a></li><li><a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ce825f54-f9c9-44f3-8a48-486f7f35bc2c/judgemental---a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxm__fAThjyztCIC6jTChX2w4RTAQIJC4" target="_blank">Youtube</a></li></ul><p>Be sure to subscribe, leave us a review or send us a message.</p>
<p><p>This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets.&nbsp;For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.</p><p>The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of&nbsp;EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​</p><p><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/">Click here</a> for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.&nbsp;</p></p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the third and final episode of the reasonable management action deep dive, the Judgemental team are joined by Erica Thuijs, Greg’s colleague and an expert in employer’s liability and workers compensation. </p><p>In this episode, Erica, Kate and Greg take the discussion straight into the workplace to explore the nuances of the various workers compensation jurisdictions in Australia, whilst examining the key considerations for employers. Concepts such as ‘reasonableness’, ‘fairness’ and ‘harshness’ are reviewed from a multitude of angles – encompassing legal, psychological and safety considerations for the workplace.</p><p>With the varied and somewhat opposing legal vs psychological frameworks in the mix, it’s another episode designed to nurture ponderings and reflections in the wonderful world of psychosocial risk.  </p><p><br />Grab a drink and join Kate, Greg and Erica at the bar.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>Connect with us:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-connors-09147228?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3B4OgtS9p%2BRL%2B5uHTlJeTJiQ%3D%3D" target="_blank">Kate Connors</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-smith-6a63449?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3BD2BPkvhRTU%2BOvAVtn8SEdw%3D%3D" target="_blank">Greg Smith</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericathuijs?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3BaiYfkJ2tQy6I6%2FAP9%2Beb2g%3D%3D" target="_blank">Erica Thijs</a></li><li>LinkedIn – EML</li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/mutual-benefits-program/">Mutual Benefits Program</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://www6.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/wa/WASCA/2018/1.html" target="_blank">District court of Western Australia, Suleski -v- Pilbara Iron Company (Services) Pty Ltd, 17 August 2018</a></li><li><a href="https://www6.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/cth/HCA/2016/43.html" target="_blank">High Court of Australia, Comcare v Martin [2016] HCA 43 (9 November 2016)</a></li><li><a href="https://www.scribd.com/document/811380041/Root-Causes-Analysis" target="_blank">Livingston, Jackson & Priestley (2021) Root causes analysis: Literature review</a></li><li><a target="_blank">Dr Ivan Pupulidy</a> and <a target="_blank">Crista Vesel</a> -  <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Human-Organization-Potential-Black-Australia/dp/B0CQVHJSYW" target="_blank">Human and Organisational Potential</a></li><li>Elemental Psychology & Coaching  <a href="http://www.elementalcp.com.au/" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>Greg Smith – Safety Books <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Proving-Safety-problems-management-tyranny-ebook/dp/B0CYNVZ7H7/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3D2O8V51RPWUI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.h3ZROJcRioPtAVbULLxBoHyBnV7IlXGZ0l5nSYR34knYPJYUtD-eg869sj1bOePlanWNTnlh9BHb0-uR3esshNf4EPvYPqdqPaf5GXZoRGWGXY78mJK6CocYsbZfHaN96nEAGqUYXqKiN70an50XkAuaT8J0mnTurpWu3W86vmCufoHkYTYlEituyl1WrqToBPO0TkPBAW92Q5Svr_4S2QxtFn17mYToAevIYChYALlCSxo6BjTMgn6TywarSAqvlyzYk5T7KVwdCi2fT6LI8tH-ITmG8FnWr7eEC1HNYhw.pKhfu3MjAeJBoMk-g8U_p8pZ3hUOZQYzpAE3FMuej94&dib_tag=se&keywords=proving+safety&qid=1712665137&sprefix=proving+safety%2Caps%2C335&sr=8-2" target="_blank">Proving Safety</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Paper-Safe-triumph-bureaucracy-management-ebook/dp/B07HVRZY8C/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=f3jik&content-id=amzn1.sym.3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_p=3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_r=355-6490314-2496629&pd_rd_wg=mxqB8&pd_rd_r=6ec8434a-2f92-49d0-8073-e83af1894804&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk" target="_blank">Paper Safe</a></li><li>EML <a href="http://www.eml.com.au" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>EML Psychosocial resources – <a href="https://www.eml.com.au/mutual-benefits/" target="_blank">Mutual Benefitshttps://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Follow Judgemental: A psychologist and a lawyer walk into a bar</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2aZfevywW2IAdc4wwM4KS0?si=2b8b3bc9c0814d74" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/judgemental-a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar/id1778373417" target="_blank">Apple</a></li><li><a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ce825f54-f9c9-44f3-8a48-486f7f35bc2c/judgemental---a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxm__fAThjyztCIC6jTChX2w4RTAQIJC4" target="_blank">Youtube</a></li></ul><p>Be sure to subscribe, leave us a review or send us a message.</p>
<p><p>This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets.&nbsp;For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.</p><p>The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of&nbsp;EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​</p><p><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/">Click here</a> for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.&nbsp;</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this much-anticipated deep dive, the <i>Judgemental</i> team unpacks the complexities of “reasonable management action” through the lens of a fascinating 2014 Fair Work Commission case. The episode centres on an application to stop workplace bullying—brought not by a subordinate, but by a manager who claimed her team was targeting her with unreasonable bullying allegations and that she lacked support from higher management.</p><p>This case raises compelling questions about what constitutes unreasonable behaviour, how bullying is defined in a legal context, and the broader implications for psychosocial risk and workplace health and safety.</p><p>As always, Greg brings his sharp legal analysis, while Kate explores the psychological dimensions, offering listeners a rich, multidimensional perspective. With their contrasting yet complementary viewpoints, this episode is sure to spark thoughtful reflection on the evolving landscape of workplace dynamics and psychosocial risk.</p><p>Grab a drink and settle in for another episode at the bar!</p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>Connect with us:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-connors-09147228?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3B4OgtS9p%2BRL%2B5uHTlJeTJiQ%3D%3D">Kate Connors</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-smith-6a63449?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3BD2BPkvhRTU%2BOvAVtn8SEdw%3D%3D">Greg Smith</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/emlgroup">EML</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/mutual-benefits-program/">Mutual Benefits Program</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Resources:</strong></p><ul><li>Fair Work Commission Decision <a href="https://www.fwc.gov.au/documents/decisionssigned/html/2014fwc2104.htm" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>Elemental Psychology & Coaching  <a href="http://www.elementalcp.com.au/" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>Greg Smith – Safety Books <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Proving-Safety-problems-management-tyranny-ebook/dp/B0CYNVZ7H7/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3D2O8V51RPWUI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.h3ZROJcRioPtAVbULLxBoHyBnV7IlXGZ0l5nSYR34knYPJYUtD-eg869sj1bOePlanWNTnlh9BHb0-uR3esshNf4EPvYPqdqPaf5GXZoRGWGXY78mJK6CocYsbZfHaN96nEAGqUYXqKiN70an50XkAuaT8J0mnTurpWu3W86vmCufoHkYTYlEituyl1WrqToBPO0TkPBAW92Q5Svr_4S2QxtFn17mYToAevIYChYALlCSxo6BjTMgn6TywarSAqvlyzYk5T7KVwdCi2fT6LI8tH-ITmG8FnWr7eEC1HNYhw.pKhfu3MjAeJBoMk-g8U_p8pZ3hUOZQYzpAE3FMuej94&dib_tag=se&keywords=proving+safety&qid=1712665137&sprefix=proving+safety%2Caps%2C335&sr=8-2" target="_blank">Proving Safety</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Paper-Safe-triumph-bureaucracy-management-ebook/dp/B07HVRZY8C/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=f3jik&content-id=amzn1.sym.3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_p=3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_r=355-6490314-2496629&pd_rd_wg=mxqB8&pd_rd_r=6ec8434a-2f92-49d0-8073-e83af1894804&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk" target="_blank">Paper Safe</a></li><li>EML <a href="http://www.eml.com.au" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>EML Psychosocial resources – <a href="https://www.eml.com.au/mutual-benefits/" target="_blank">Mutual Benefitshttps://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Follow Judgemental: A psychologist and a lawyer walk into a bar</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2aZfevywW2IAdc4wwM4KS0?si=2b8b3bc9c0814d74" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/judgemental-a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar/id1778373417" target="_blank">Apple</a></li><li><a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ce825f54-f9c9-44f3-8a48-486f7f35bc2c/judgemental---a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxm__fAThjyztCIC6jTChX2w4RTAQIJC4" target="_blank">Youtube</a></li></ul><p>Be sure to subscribe, leave us a review or send us a message.</p>
<p><p>This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets.&nbsp;For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.</p><p>The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of&nbsp;EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​</p><p><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/">Click here</a> for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.&nbsp;</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2025 05:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>gws@outlook.com.au (Greg Smith and Kate Connors)</author>
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<p><p>This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets.&nbsp;For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.</p><p>The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of&nbsp;EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​</p><p><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/">Click here</a> for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.&nbsp;</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>It’s what judgemental listeners have been waiting for. Our episode on reasonable management action is here!. Rated by our listeners as their biggest priority, Kate and Greg get the party started with the first of three episodes dedicated to reasonable management action.</p><p>To kick things off, Greg shares and summarises the legalities of reasonable management action. As usual, Kate’s psychologist brain takes the conversation into a conversation with humanises the topic and connects the dots for listeners  when it comes to psychosocial risk management.</p><p>Have you ever considered the idea of reasonable management action? Have you examined the controls that exist when measuring and managing reasonable management action as a psychosocial risk? Where is the distinction between bullying and harassment, and an unsupportive leader?</p><p>Grab a drink and settle in to join Kate and Greg as they open the door into this very complex area.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>Connect with us:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-connors-09147228?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3B4OgtS9p%2BRL%2B5uHTlJeTJiQ%3D%3D">Kate Connors</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-smith-6a63449?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3BD2BPkvhRTU%2BOvAVtn8SEdw%3D%3D">Greg Smith</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/emlgroup">EML</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/mutual-benefits-program/">Mutual Benefits Program</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="http://www.fwc.gov.au/hearings-decisions/case-law-benchbooks" target="_blank">Case law benchbooks</a>, Fair Work commission</li><li>Elemental Psychology & Coaching  <a href="http://www.elementalcp.com.au/" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>Greg Smith – Safety Books <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Proving-Safety-problems-management-tyranny-ebook/dp/B0CYNVZ7H7/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3D2O8V51RPWUI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.h3ZROJcRioPtAVbULLxBoHyBnV7IlXGZ0l5nSYR34knYPJYUtD-eg869sj1bOePlanWNTnlh9BHb0-uR3esshNf4EPvYPqdqPaf5GXZoRGWGXY78mJK6CocYsbZfHaN96nEAGqUYXqKiN70an50XkAuaT8J0mnTurpWu3W86vmCufoHkYTYlEituyl1WrqToBPO0TkPBAW92Q5Svr_4S2QxtFn17mYToAevIYChYALlCSxo6BjTMgn6TywarSAqvlyzYk5T7KVwdCi2fT6LI8tH-ITmG8FnWr7eEC1HNYhw.pKhfu3MjAeJBoMk-g8U_p8pZ3hUOZQYzpAE3FMuej94&dib_tag=se&keywords=proving+safety&qid=1712665137&sprefix=proving+safety%2Caps%2C335&sr=8-2" target="_blank">Proving Safety</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Paper-Safe-triumph-bureaucracy-management-ebook/dp/B07HVRZY8C/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=f3jik&content-id=amzn1.sym.3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_p=3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_r=355-6490314-2496629&pd_rd_wg=mxqB8&pd_rd_r=6ec8434a-2f92-49d0-8073-e83af1894804&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk" target="_blank">Paper Safe</a></li><li>EML <a href="http://www.eml.com.au" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>EML Psychosocial resources – <a href="https://www.eml.com.au/mutual-benefits/" target="_blank">Mutual Benefitshttps://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Follow Judgemental: A psychologist and a lawyer walk into a bar</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2aZfevywW2IAdc4wwM4KS0?si=2b8b3bc9c0814d74" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/judgemental-a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar/id1778373417" target="_blank">Apple</a></li><li><a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ce825f54-f9c9-44f3-8a48-486f7f35bc2c/judgemental---a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxm__fAThjyztCIC6jTChX2w4RTAQIJC4" target="_blank">Youtube</a></li></ul><p>Be sure to subscribe, leave us a review or send us a message.</p>
<p><p>This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets.&nbsp;For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.</p><p>The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of&nbsp;EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​</p><p><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/">Click here</a> for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.&nbsp;</p></p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s what judgemental listeners have been waiting for. Our episode on reasonable management action is here!. Rated by our listeners as their biggest priority, Kate and Greg get the party started with the first of three episodes dedicated to reasonable management action.</p><p>To kick things off, Greg shares and summarises the legalities of reasonable management action. As usual, Kate’s psychologist brain takes the conversation into a conversation with humanises the topic and connects the dots for listeners  when it comes to psychosocial risk management.</p><p>Have you ever considered the idea of reasonable management action? Have you examined the controls that exist when measuring and managing reasonable management action as a psychosocial risk? Where is the distinction between bullying and harassment, and an unsupportive leader?</p><p>Grab a drink and settle in to join Kate and Greg as they open the door into this very complex area.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>Connect with us:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-connors-09147228?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3B4OgtS9p%2BRL%2B5uHTlJeTJiQ%3D%3D">Kate Connors</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-smith-6a63449?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3BD2BPkvhRTU%2BOvAVtn8SEdw%3D%3D">Greg Smith</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/emlgroup">EML</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/mutual-benefits-program/">Mutual Benefits Program</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="http://www.fwc.gov.au/hearings-decisions/case-law-benchbooks" target="_blank">Case law benchbooks</a>, Fair Work commission</li><li>Elemental Psychology & Coaching  <a href="http://www.elementalcp.com.au/" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>Greg Smith – Safety Books <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Proving-Safety-problems-management-tyranny-ebook/dp/B0CYNVZ7H7/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3D2O8V51RPWUI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.h3ZROJcRioPtAVbULLxBoHyBnV7IlXGZ0l5nSYR34knYPJYUtD-eg869sj1bOePlanWNTnlh9BHb0-uR3esshNf4EPvYPqdqPaf5GXZoRGWGXY78mJK6CocYsbZfHaN96nEAGqUYXqKiN70an50XkAuaT8J0mnTurpWu3W86vmCufoHkYTYlEituyl1WrqToBPO0TkPBAW92Q5Svr_4S2QxtFn17mYToAevIYChYALlCSxo6BjTMgn6TywarSAqvlyzYk5T7KVwdCi2fT6LI8tH-ITmG8FnWr7eEC1HNYhw.pKhfu3MjAeJBoMk-g8U_p8pZ3hUOZQYzpAE3FMuej94&dib_tag=se&keywords=proving+safety&qid=1712665137&sprefix=proving+safety%2Caps%2C335&sr=8-2" target="_blank">Proving Safety</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Paper-Safe-triumph-bureaucracy-management-ebook/dp/B07HVRZY8C/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=f3jik&content-id=amzn1.sym.3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_p=3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_r=355-6490314-2496629&pd_rd_wg=mxqB8&pd_rd_r=6ec8434a-2f92-49d0-8073-e83af1894804&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk" target="_blank">Paper Safe</a></li><li>EML <a href="http://www.eml.com.au" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>EML Psychosocial resources – <a href="https://www.eml.com.au/mutual-benefits/" target="_blank">Mutual Benefitshttps://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Follow Judgemental: A psychologist and a lawyer walk into a bar</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2aZfevywW2IAdc4wwM4KS0?si=2b8b3bc9c0814d74" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/judgemental-a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar/id1778373417" target="_blank">Apple</a></li><li><a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ce825f54-f9c9-44f3-8a48-486f7f35bc2c/judgemental---a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxm__fAThjyztCIC6jTChX2w4RTAQIJC4" target="_blank">Youtube</a></li></ul><p>Be sure to subscribe, leave us a review or send us a message.</p>
<p><p>This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets.&nbsp;For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.</p><p>The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of&nbsp;EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​</p><p><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/">Click here</a> for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.&nbsp;</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>To finish up the three-episode deep dive into leader wellbeing, we thought it important to provide airtime to an actual leader!</p><p>Rachel Green is the CEO at SANE. Over the past 15 years, Rachel has held a range of senior executive roles and positions on Boards including the National Mental Health Commission, Black Dog Institute, Department of Health and Aged Care, ICLA, Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet, and SANDS.  With such extensive senior executive, as well as subject knowledge expertise, the conversation was deemed “margarita worthy.”</p><p>Rachel shares her perspectives on her greatest fear for Australian workplaces from possible unintended consequences of the WHS psychosocial regulatory environment, and shares the question she often asks when people seek her view when serious incidents occur with a link to mental illness…”have we considered if the system and services are adequately funded?”</p><p>This episode’s topics range from visionary reflections on WHS and inclusion systems and policy level levers, all the way through to the personal toll of leadership on leaders.  Thank you Rachel for joining us in the bar for this important discussion that doesn’t receive anywhere near enough attention.    </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>Connect with us:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-connors-09147228?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3B4OgtS9p%2BRL%2B5uHTlJeTJiQ%3D%3D">Kate Connors</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-smith-6a63449?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3BD2BPkvhRTU%2BOvAVtn8SEdw%3D%3D">Greg Smith</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachelgreenaus/" target="_blank">Rachel Green</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/emlgroup">EML</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/mutual-benefits-program/">Mutual Benefits Program</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Resources:</strong></p><ul><li>Elemental Psychology & Coaching  <a href="http://www.elementalcp.com.au/" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>Greg Smith – Safety Books <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Proving-Safety-problems-management-tyranny-ebook/dp/B0CYNVZ7H7/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3D2O8V51RPWUI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.h3ZROJcRioPtAVbULLxBoHyBnV7IlXGZ0l5nSYR34knYPJYUtD-eg869sj1bOePlanWNTnlh9BHb0-uR3esshNf4EPvYPqdqPaf5GXZoRGWGXY78mJK6CocYsbZfHaN96nEAGqUYXqKiN70an50XkAuaT8J0mnTurpWu3W86vmCufoHkYTYlEituyl1WrqToBPO0TkPBAW92Q5Svr_4S2QxtFn17mYToAevIYChYALlCSxo6BjTMgn6TywarSAqvlyzYk5T7KVwdCi2fT6LI8tH-ITmG8FnWr7eEC1HNYhw.pKhfu3MjAeJBoMk-g8U_p8pZ3hUOZQYzpAE3FMuej94&dib_tag=se&keywords=proving+safety&qid=1712665137&sprefix=proving+safety%2Caps%2C335&sr=8-2" target="_blank">Proving Safety</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Paper-Safe-triumph-bureaucracy-management-ebook/dp/B07HVRZY8C/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=f3jik&content-id=amzn1.sym.3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_p=3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_r=355-6490314-2496629&pd_rd_wg=mxqB8&pd_rd_r=6ec8434a-2f92-49d0-8073-e83af1894804&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk" target="_blank">Paper Safe</a></li><li>To learn more about SANE and / or offer your support to this amazing organisation <a href="https://www.sane.org/" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>EML <a href="http://www.eml.com.au" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>EML Psychosocial resources – <a href="https://www.eml.com.au/mutual-benefits/" target="_blank">Mutual Benefitshttps://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Follow Judgemental: A psychologist and a lawyer walk into a bar</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2aZfevywW2IAdc4wwM4KS0?si=2b8b3bc9c0814d74" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/judgemental-a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar/id1778373417" target="_blank">Apple</a></li><li><a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ce825f54-f9c9-44f3-8a48-486f7f35bc2c/judgemental---a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxm__fAThjyztCIC6jTChX2w4RTAQIJC4" target="_blank">Youtube</a></li></ul><p>Be sure to subscribe, leave us a review or send us a message.</p>
<p><p>This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets.&nbsp;For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.</p><p>The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of&nbsp;EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​</p><p><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/">Click here</a> for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.&nbsp;</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 2 May 2025 00:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To finish up the three-episode deep dive into leader wellbeing, we thought it important to provide airtime to an actual leader!</p><p>Rachel Green is the CEO at SANE. Over the past 15 years, Rachel has held a range of senior executive roles and positions on Boards including the National Mental Health Commission, Black Dog Institute, Department of Health and Aged Care, ICLA, Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet, and SANDS.  With such extensive senior executive, as well as subject knowledge expertise, the conversation was deemed “margarita worthy.”</p><p>Rachel shares her perspectives on her greatest fear for Australian workplaces from possible unintended consequences of the WHS psychosocial regulatory environment, and shares the question she often asks when people seek her view when serious incidents occur with a link to mental illness…”have we considered if the system and services are adequately funded?”</p><p>This episode’s topics range from visionary reflections on WHS and inclusion systems and policy level levers, all the way through to the personal toll of leadership on leaders.  Thank you Rachel for joining us in the bar for this important discussion that doesn’t receive anywhere near enough attention.    </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>Connect with us:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-connors-09147228?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3B4OgtS9p%2BRL%2B5uHTlJeTJiQ%3D%3D">Kate Connors</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-smith-6a63449?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3BD2BPkvhRTU%2BOvAVtn8SEdw%3D%3D">Greg Smith</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachelgreenaus/" target="_blank">Rachel Green</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/emlgroup">EML</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/mutual-benefits-program/">Mutual Benefits Program</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Resources:</strong></p><ul><li>Elemental Psychology & Coaching  <a href="http://www.elementalcp.com.au/" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>Greg Smith – Safety Books <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Proving-Safety-problems-management-tyranny-ebook/dp/B0CYNVZ7H7/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3D2O8V51RPWUI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.h3ZROJcRioPtAVbULLxBoHyBnV7IlXGZ0l5nSYR34knYPJYUtD-eg869sj1bOePlanWNTnlh9BHb0-uR3esshNf4EPvYPqdqPaf5GXZoRGWGXY78mJK6CocYsbZfHaN96nEAGqUYXqKiN70an50XkAuaT8J0mnTurpWu3W86vmCufoHkYTYlEituyl1WrqToBPO0TkPBAW92Q5Svr_4S2QxtFn17mYToAevIYChYALlCSxo6BjTMgn6TywarSAqvlyzYk5T7KVwdCi2fT6LI8tH-ITmG8FnWr7eEC1HNYhw.pKhfu3MjAeJBoMk-g8U_p8pZ3hUOZQYzpAE3FMuej94&dib_tag=se&keywords=proving+safety&qid=1712665137&sprefix=proving+safety%2Caps%2C335&sr=8-2" target="_blank">Proving Safety</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Paper-Safe-triumph-bureaucracy-management-ebook/dp/B07HVRZY8C/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=f3jik&content-id=amzn1.sym.3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_p=3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_r=355-6490314-2496629&pd_rd_wg=mxqB8&pd_rd_r=6ec8434a-2f92-49d0-8073-e83af1894804&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk" target="_blank">Paper Safe</a></li><li>To learn more about SANE and / or offer your support to this amazing organisation <a href="https://www.sane.org/" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>EML <a href="http://www.eml.com.au" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>EML Psychosocial resources – <a href="https://www.eml.com.au/mutual-benefits/" target="_blank">Mutual Benefitshttps://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Follow Judgemental: A psychologist and a lawyer walk into a bar</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2aZfevywW2IAdc4wwM4KS0?si=2b8b3bc9c0814d74" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/judgemental-a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar/id1778373417" target="_blank">Apple</a></li><li><a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ce825f54-f9c9-44f3-8a48-486f7f35bc2c/judgemental---a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxm__fAThjyztCIC6jTChX2w4RTAQIJC4" target="_blank">Youtube</a></li></ul><p>Be sure to subscribe, leave us a review or send us a message.</p>
<p><p>This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets.&nbsp;For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.</p><p>The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of&nbsp;EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​</p><p><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/">Click here</a> for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.&nbsp;</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Leadership wellbeing – a wicked problem or a quantifiable metric?</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>It’s an exciting moment in the bar, as Kate and Greg welcome their first guest to Judgemental-podcast.   Audrey McGibbon is an eminent thought leader in the world of leadership wellbeing, and the perfect person to tackle the complexity of the wicked problem of leader wellbeing.</p><p>Can leadership wellbeing be measured?  If it can be, why measure it?  And what does leadership wellbeing have to do with psychosocial risk management?</p><p>All these questions and more are explored as Greg, Kate and Audrey navigate the conversation in typical “Judgemental-podcast”….no silver bullets, honest reflections and different perspectives to challenge thinking, and increase safety and psychological literacy.</p><p>This episode addresses the many complexities of how leaders and leadership intersect with psychosocial risk, and presents meaningful (so therefore not simplistic) ideas on how to respond.  Grab your liquid of choice, and enjoy the company of Kate and Greg in the second episode of the deep dive conversations focussed on leadership wellbeing.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>Connect with us:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-connors-09147228?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3B4OgtS9p%2BRL%2B5uHTlJeTJiQ%3D%3D">Kate Connors</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-smith-6a63449?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3BD2BPkvhRTU%2BOvAVtn8SEdw%3D%3D">Greg Smith</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/audrey-mcgibbon-psychologist-employee-wellbeing-expert-researcher/" target="_blank">Audrey McGibbon</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/emlgroup">EML</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/mutual-benefits-program/">Mutual Benefits Program</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Resources:</strong></p><ul><li>Elemental Psychology & Coaching  <a href="http://www.elementalcp.com.au/" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>Greg Smith – Safety Books <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Proving-Safety-problems-management-tyranny-ebook/dp/B0CYNVZ7H7/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3D2O8V51RPWUI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.h3ZROJcRioPtAVbULLxBoHyBnV7IlXGZ0l5nSYR34knYPJYUtD-eg869sj1bOePlanWNTnlh9BHb0-uR3esshNf4EPvYPqdqPaf5GXZoRGWGXY78mJK6CocYsbZfHaN96nEAGqUYXqKiN70an50XkAuaT8J0mnTurpWu3W86vmCufoHkYTYlEituyl1WrqToBPO0TkPBAW92Q5Svr_4S2QxtFn17mYToAevIYChYALlCSxo6BjTMgn6TywarSAqvlyzYk5T7KVwdCi2fT6LI8tH-ITmG8FnWr7eEC1HNYhw.pKhfu3MjAeJBoMk-g8U_p8pZ3hUOZQYzpAE3FMuej94&dib_tag=se&keywords=proving+safety&qid=1712665137&sprefix=proving+safety%2Caps%2C335&sr=8-2" target="_blank">Proving Safety</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Paper-Safe-triumph-bureaucracy-management-ebook/dp/B07HVRZY8C/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=f3jik&content-id=amzn1.sym.3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_p=3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_r=355-6490314-2496629&pd_rd_wg=mxqB8&pd_rd_r=6ec8434a-2f92-49d0-8073-e83af1894804&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk" target="_blank">Paper Safe</a></li><li>GLWS <a href="https://www.glwswellbeing.com/" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>EML <a href="http://www.eml.com.au" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>EML Psychosocial resources – <a href="https://www.eml.com.au/mutual-benefits/" target="_blank">Mutual Benefitshttps://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Follow Judgemental: A psychologist and a lawyer walk into a bar</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2aZfevywW2IAdc4wwM4KS0?si=2b8b3bc9c0814d74" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/judgemental-a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar/id1778373417" target="_blank">Apple</a></li><li><a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ce825f54-f9c9-44f3-8a48-486f7f35bc2c/judgemental---a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxm__fAThjyztCIC6jTChX2w4RTAQIJC4" target="_blank">Youtube</a></li></ul><p>Be sure to subscribe, leave us a review or send us a message.</p>
<p><p>This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets.&nbsp;For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.</p><p>The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of&nbsp;EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​</p><p><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/">Click here</a> for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.&nbsp;</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2025 07:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>gws@outlook.com.au (Greg Smith and Kate Connors)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s an exciting moment in the bar, as Kate and Greg welcome their first guest to Judgemental-podcast.   Audrey McGibbon is an eminent thought leader in the world of leadership wellbeing, and the perfect person to tackle the complexity of the wicked problem of leader wellbeing.</p><p>Can leadership wellbeing be measured?  If it can be, why measure it?  And what does leadership wellbeing have to do with psychosocial risk management?</p><p>All these questions and more are explored as Greg, Kate and Audrey navigate the conversation in typical “Judgemental-podcast”….no silver bullets, honest reflections and different perspectives to challenge thinking, and increase safety and psychological literacy.</p><p>This episode addresses the many complexities of how leaders and leadership intersect with psychosocial risk, and presents meaningful (so therefore not simplistic) ideas on how to respond.  Grab your liquid of choice, and enjoy the company of Kate and Greg in the second episode of the deep dive conversations focussed on leadership wellbeing.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>Connect with us:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-connors-09147228?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3B4OgtS9p%2BRL%2B5uHTlJeTJiQ%3D%3D">Kate Connors</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-smith-6a63449?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3BD2BPkvhRTU%2BOvAVtn8SEdw%3D%3D">Greg Smith</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/audrey-mcgibbon-psychologist-employee-wellbeing-expert-researcher/" target="_blank">Audrey McGibbon</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/emlgroup">EML</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/mutual-benefits-program/">Mutual Benefits Program</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Resources:</strong></p><ul><li>Elemental Psychology & Coaching  <a href="http://www.elementalcp.com.au/" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>Greg Smith – Safety Books <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Proving-Safety-problems-management-tyranny-ebook/dp/B0CYNVZ7H7/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3D2O8V51RPWUI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.h3ZROJcRioPtAVbULLxBoHyBnV7IlXGZ0l5nSYR34knYPJYUtD-eg869sj1bOePlanWNTnlh9BHb0-uR3esshNf4EPvYPqdqPaf5GXZoRGWGXY78mJK6CocYsbZfHaN96nEAGqUYXqKiN70an50XkAuaT8J0mnTurpWu3W86vmCufoHkYTYlEituyl1WrqToBPO0TkPBAW92Q5Svr_4S2QxtFn17mYToAevIYChYALlCSxo6BjTMgn6TywarSAqvlyzYk5T7KVwdCi2fT6LI8tH-ITmG8FnWr7eEC1HNYhw.pKhfu3MjAeJBoMk-g8U_p8pZ3hUOZQYzpAE3FMuej94&dib_tag=se&keywords=proving+safety&qid=1712665137&sprefix=proving+safety%2Caps%2C335&sr=8-2" target="_blank">Proving Safety</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Paper-Safe-triumph-bureaucracy-management-ebook/dp/B07HVRZY8C/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=f3jik&content-id=amzn1.sym.3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_p=3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_r=355-6490314-2496629&pd_rd_wg=mxqB8&pd_rd_r=6ec8434a-2f92-49d0-8073-e83af1894804&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk" target="_blank">Paper Safe</a></li><li>GLWS <a href="https://www.glwswellbeing.com/" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>EML <a href="http://www.eml.com.au" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>EML Psychosocial resources – <a href="https://www.eml.com.au/mutual-benefits/" target="_blank">Mutual Benefitshttps://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Follow Judgemental: A psychologist and a lawyer walk into a bar</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2aZfevywW2IAdc4wwM4KS0?si=2b8b3bc9c0814d74" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/judgemental-a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar/id1778373417" target="_blank">Apple</a></li><li><a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ce825f54-f9c9-44f3-8a48-486f7f35bc2c/judgemental---a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxm__fAThjyztCIC6jTChX2w4RTAQIJC4" target="_blank">Youtube</a></li></ul><p>Be sure to subscribe, leave us a review or send us a message.</p>
<p><p>This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets.&nbsp;For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.</p><p>The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of&nbsp;EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​</p><p><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/">Click here</a> for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.&nbsp;</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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<p><p>This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets.&nbsp;For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.</p><p>The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of&nbsp;EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​</p><p><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/">Click here</a> for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.&nbsp;</p></p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate and Greg are back in the bar, with the first ‘deep dive” conversation for season two: leadership wellbeing.  Leader wellbeing is a long-standing area of professional interest for Kate, resulting in a conversation brimming with passion and fuel for thought!</p><p>Kate shares detail on three reports to support the argument that leadership wellbeing is an area of psychosocial risk that is neglected by many organisations – ultimately undermining the effectiveness of not only an organisations’ risk management strategy, but any organisational change or transformation priorities.  Kate asks the question – if leaders are such a critical dependency in effective psychosocial risk and change management, why don’t organisations design “safe systems of leadership” that support leaders to be who and how we need them to be?</p><p>Grab a drink and settle in to join Kate and Greg as they connect “safety” and “psychological” literacy – all whilst having some fun along the way!</p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>Connect with us:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-connors-09147228?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3B4OgtS9p%2BRL%2B5uHTlJeTJiQ%3D%3D">Kate Connors</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-smith-6a63449?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3BD2BPkvhRTU%2BOvAVtn8SEdw%3D%3D">Greg Smith</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/emlgroup">EML</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/mutual-benefits-program/">Mutual Benefits Program</a></li></ul><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>Articles:</strong></p><ol><li>National Mental Health Commission (2023). Promoting and protecting mental health for executive and decision-makers, National Workplace Initiative, National Mental Health Commission, Sydney Australia. Download <a href="https://www.mentalhealthcommission.gov.au/sites/default/files/2024-10/a-mentally-healthy-workplace-for-executives-and-decision-makers.pdf" target="_blank">here</a></li><li>Kate Connors (2024). R Our Leaders OK? R Our Leadership Systems OK? A preliminary investigation in recognition of R U OK? And World Mental Health Days, 2024.  Report can be downloaded via Elemental Coaching & Psychology website <a href="https://elementalcp.com.au/thought-leadership/" target="_blank">here</a></li><li>Gallup (2024). State of the Global Workplace.  Report can be downloaded <a href="https://www.gallup.com/workplace/349484/state-of-the-global-workplace.aspx" target="_blank">here</a></li></ol><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Resources:</strong></p><ul><li>Elemental Psychology & Coaching  <a href="http://www.elementalcp.com.au/" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>Greg Smith – Safety Books <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Proving-Safety-problems-management-tyranny-ebook/dp/B0CYNVZ7H7/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3D2O8V51RPWUI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.h3ZROJcRioPtAVbULLxBoHyBnV7IlXGZ0l5nSYR34knYPJYUtD-eg869sj1bOePlanWNTnlh9BHb0-uR3esshNf4EPvYPqdqPaf5GXZoRGWGXY78mJK6CocYsbZfHaN96nEAGqUYXqKiN70an50XkAuaT8J0mnTurpWu3W86vmCufoHkYTYlEituyl1WrqToBPO0TkPBAW92Q5Svr_4S2QxtFn17mYToAevIYChYALlCSxo6BjTMgn6TywarSAqvlyzYk5T7KVwdCi2fT6LI8tH-ITmG8FnWr7eEC1HNYhw.pKhfu3MjAeJBoMk-g8U_p8pZ3hUOZQYzpAE3FMuej94&dib_tag=se&keywords=proving+safety&qid=1712665137&sprefix=proving+safety%2Caps%2C335&sr=8-2" target="_blank">Proving Safety</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Paper-Safe-triumph-bureaucracy-management-ebook/dp/B07HVRZY8C/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=f3jik&content-id=amzn1.sym.3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_p=3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_r=355-6490314-2496629&pd_rd_wg=mxqB8&pd_rd_r=6ec8434a-2f92-49d0-8073-e83af1894804&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk" target="_blank">Paper Safe</a></li><li>EML <a href="http://www.eml.com.au" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>EML Psychosocial resources – <a href="https://www.eml.com.au/mutual-benefits/" target="_blank">Mutual Benefitshttps://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Follow Judgemental: A psychologist and a lawyer walk into a bar</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2aZfevywW2IAdc4wwM4KS0?si=2b8b3bc9c0814d74" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/judgemental-a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar/id1778373417" target="_blank">Apple</a></li><li><a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ce825f54-f9c9-44f3-8a48-486f7f35bc2c/judgemental---a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxm__fAThjyztCIC6jTChX2w4RTAQIJC4" target="_blank">Youtube</a></li></ul><p>Be sure to subscribe, leave us a review or send us a message.</p>
<p><p>This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets.&nbsp;For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.</p><p>The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of&nbsp;EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​</p><p><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/">Click here</a> for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.&nbsp;</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In the first episode of Season Two, Kate and Greg reflect on listener (and family) feedback from the first season and share not only their favourite conversation moments, but also expand on topical discussion points from episodes. The conversation heats up as they discuss statements which have been made in the psychosocial risk sector which misrepresent legal decisions.</p><p>Kate and Greg share the plan for Season Two and encourage listeners to provide feedback on each episode, and ask for preferences for “deep dive episodes” into psychosocial risk areas. There is so much to cover in this season and episodes will be recorded based on listener feedback – what topics do you want to hear about first?</p><p>Grab a drink, join Kate and Greg in conversation as they set the scene for Season Two.  </p><p>- Season One recap – lessons learnt and major talking points</p><p>- The agenda for Season Two – so much to cover, where should Kate and Greg focus conversations?</p><p>- Insights into Episode Two  </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>Connect with us:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-connors-09147228?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3B4OgtS9p%2BRL%2B5uHTlJeTJiQ%3D%3D">Kate Connors</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-smith-6a63449?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3BD2BPkvhRTU%2BOvAVtn8SEdw%3D%3D">Greg Smith</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/emlgroup">EML</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/mutual-benefits-program/">Mutual Benefits Program</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Resources:</strong></p><ul><li>Elemental Psychology & Coaching  <a href="http://www.elementalcp.com.au/" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>Greg Smith – Safety Books <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Proving-Safety-problems-management-tyranny-ebook/dp/B0CYNVZ7H7/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3D2O8V51RPWUI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.h3ZROJcRioPtAVbULLxBoHyBnV7IlXGZ0l5nSYR34knYPJYUtD-eg869sj1bOePlanWNTnlh9BHb0-uR3esshNf4EPvYPqdqPaf5GXZoRGWGXY78mJK6CocYsbZfHaN96nEAGqUYXqKiN70an50XkAuaT8J0mnTurpWu3W86vmCufoHkYTYlEituyl1WrqToBPO0TkPBAW92Q5Svr_4S2QxtFn17mYToAevIYChYALlCSxo6BjTMgn6TywarSAqvlyzYk5T7KVwdCi2fT6LI8tH-ITmG8FnWr7eEC1HNYhw.pKhfu3MjAeJBoMk-g8U_p8pZ3hUOZQYzpAE3FMuej94&dib_tag=se&keywords=proving+safety&qid=1712665137&sprefix=proving+safety%2Caps%2C335&sr=8-2" target="_blank">Proving Safety</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Paper-Safe-triumph-bureaucracy-management-ebook/dp/B07HVRZY8C/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=f3jik&content-id=amzn1.sym.3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_p=3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_r=355-6490314-2496629&pd_rd_wg=mxqB8&pd_rd_r=6ec8434a-2f92-49d0-8073-e83af1894804&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk" target="_blank">Paper Safe</a></li><li>EML <a href="http://www.eml.com.au" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>EML Psychosocial resources – <a href="https://www.eml.com.au/mutual-benefits/" target="_blank">Mutual Benefitshttps://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Follow Judgemental: A psychologist and a lawyer walk into a bar</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2aZfevywW2IAdc4wwM4KS0?si=2b8b3bc9c0814d74" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/judgemental-a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar/id1778373417" target="_blank">Apple</a></li><li><a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ce825f54-f9c9-44f3-8a48-486f7f35bc2c/judgemental---a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li></ul><p> </p><p>Be sure to subscribe, leave us a review or send us a message.</p>
<p><p>This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets.&nbsp;For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.</p><p>The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of&nbsp;EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​</p><p><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/">Click here</a> for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.&nbsp;</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2025 02:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>gws@outlook.com.au (Greg Smith and Kate Connors)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the first episode of Season Two, Kate and Greg reflect on listener (and family) feedback from the first season and share not only their favourite conversation moments, but also expand on topical discussion points from episodes. The conversation heats up as they discuss statements which have been made in the psychosocial risk sector which misrepresent legal decisions.</p><p>Kate and Greg share the plan for Season Two and encourage listeners to provide feedback on each episode, and ask for preferences for “deep dive episodes” into psychosocial risk areas. There is so much to cover in this season and episodes will be recorded based on listener feedback – what topics do you want to hear about first?</p><p>Grab a drink, join Kate and Greg in conversation as they set the scene for Season Two.  </p><p>- Season One recap – lessons learnt and major talking points</p><p>- The agenda for Season Two – so much to cover, where should Kate and Greg focus conversations?</p><p>- Insights into Episode Two  </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>Connect with us:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-connors-09147228?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3B4OgtS9p%2BRL%2B5uHTlJeTJiQ%3D%3D">Kate Connors</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-smith-6a63449?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3BD2BPkvhRTU%2BOvAVtn8SEdw%3D%3D">Greg Smith</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/emlgroup">EML</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/mutual-benefits-program/">Mutual Benefits Program</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Resources:</strong></p><ul><li>Elemental Psychology & Coaching  <a href="http://www.elementalcp.com.au/" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>Greg Smith – Safety Books <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Proving-Safety-problems-management-tyranny-ebook/dp/B0CYNVZ7H7/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3D2O8V51RPWUI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.h3ZROJcRioPtAVbULLxBoHyBnV7IlXGZ0l5nSYR34knYPJYUtD-eg869sj1bOePlanWNTnlh9BHb0-uR3esshNf4EPvYPqdqPaf5GXZoRGWGXY78mJK6CocYsbZfHaN96nEAGqUYXqKiN70an50XkAuaT8J0mnTurpWu3W86vmCufoHkYTYlEituyl1WrqToBPO0TkPBAW92Q5Svr_4S2QxtFn17mYToAevIYChYALlCSxo6BjTMgn6TywarSAqvlyzYk5T7KVwdCi2fT6LI8tH-ITmG8FnWr7eEC1HNYhw.pKhfu3MjAeJBoMk-g8U_p8pZ3hUOZQYzpAE3FMuej94&dib_tag=se&keywords=proving+safety&qid=1712665137&sprefix=proving+safety%2Caps%2C335&sr=8-2" target="_blank">Proving Safety</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Paper-Safe-triumph-bureaucracy-management-ebook/dp/B07HVRZY8C/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=f3jik&content-id=amzn1.sym.3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_p=3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_r=355-6490314-2496629&pd_rd_wg=mxqB8&pd_rd_r=6ec8434a-2f92-49d0-8073-e83af1894804&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk" target="_blank">Paper Safe</a></li><li>EML <a href="http://www.eml.com.au" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>EML Psychosocial resources – <a href="https://www.eml.com.au/mutual-benefits/" target="_blank">Mutual Benefitshttps://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Follow Judgemental: A psychologist and a lawyer walk into a bar</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2aZfevywW2IAdc4wwM4KS0?si=2b8b3bc9c0814d74" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/judgemental-a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar/id1778373417" target="_blank">Apple</a></li><li><a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ce825f54-f9c9-44f3-8a48-486f7f35bc2c/judgemental---a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li></ul><p> </p><p>Be sure to subscribe, leave us a review or send us a message.</p>
<p><p>This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets.&nbsp;For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.</p><p>The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of&nbsp;EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​</p><p><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/">Click here</a> for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.&nbsp;</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>A special episode:  The High Court decision – Adam Elisha v Vision Australia</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Join Kate and Greg as they regroup for a conversation in the bar to discuss the recent High Court decision in the Adam Elisha v Vision Australia case. This case was initially discussed in Episode 4, when the conversation was recorded from a LinkedIn live event Kate & Greg hosted in early 2024.</p><p>In this episode, Greg summarises the High Court’s decision and distils the legal technicalities into manageable bite sized chunks – extremely helpful for those who find legal technicalities hard to digest! A summary? The High Court concluded that Mr Elisha’s loss was not “too remote”, and the precise psychiatric injury he suffered did not need to have been foreseen at the time the contract was entered.</p><p>Greg provides listeners with legal takeaways and Kate shares her views as to how this decision challenges her quest for psychological injuries and their severity to be reduced in workplaces.  But regardless, the discussion provides another perfect opportunity for the legal and psychological sides of risk management to be meaningfully discussed in a bar side chat.</p><p>Choose your drink, settle down and listen in to this special episode that not only concludes the Elisha v Vision Australia matter, but also brings Series 1 to a close….</p><p>Stay tuned for Series 2!</p><p>- Discussion of the High Court summary and the possible future impacts for employers</p><p>- What does this mean for psychosocial risk management, and does it change the approach?</p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>Connect with us:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-connors-09147228?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3B4OgtS9p%2BRL%2B5uHTlJeTJiQ%3D%3D">Kate Connors</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-smith-6a63449?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3BD2BPkvhRTU%2BOvAVtn8SEdw%3D%3D">Greg Smith</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/emlgroup">EML</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/mutual-benefits-program/">Mutual Benefits Program</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Resources:</strong></p><ul><li>The High Court decision paper - <a href="https://eresources.hcourt.gov.au/downloadPdf/2024/HCA/50" target="_blank">https://eresources.hcourt.gov.au/downloadPdf/2024/HCA/50</a></li><li>Elemental Psychology & Coaching  <a href="http://www.elementalcp.com.au/" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>Greg Smith – Safety Books <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Proving-Safety-problems-management-tyranny-ebook/dp/B0CYNVZ7H7/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3D2O8V51RPWUI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.h3ZROJcRioPtAVbULLxBoHyBnV7IlXGZ0l5nSYR34knYPJYUtD-eg869sj1bOePlanWNTnlh9BHb0-uR3esshNf4EPvYPqdqPaf5GXZoRGWGXY78mJK6CocYsbZfHaN96nEAGqUYXqKiN70an50XkAuaT8J0mnTurpWu3W86vmCufoHkYTYlEituyl1WrqToBPO0TkPBAW92Q5Svr_4S2QxtFn17mYToAevIYChYALlCSxo6BjTMgn6TywarSAqvlyzYk5T7KVwdCi2fT6LI8tH-ITmG8FnWr7eEC1HNYhw.pKhfu3MjAeJBoMk-g8U_p8pZ3hUOZQYzpAE3FMuej94&dib_tag=se&keywords=proving+safety&qid=1712665137&sprefix=proving+safety%2Caps%2C335&sr=8-2" target="_blank">Proving Safety</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Paper-Safe-triumph-bureaucracy-management-ebook/dp/B07HVRZY8C/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=f3jik&content-id=amzn1.sym.3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_p=3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_r=355-6490314-2496629&pd_rd_wg=mxqB8&pd_rd_r=6ec8434a-2f92-49d0-8073-e83af1894804&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk" target="_blank">Paper Safe</a></li><li>EML <a href="http://www.eml.com.au" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>EML Psychosocial resources – <a href="https://www.eml.com.au/mutual-benefits/" target="_blank">Mutual Benefitshttps://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Follow Judgemental: A psychologist and a lawyer walk into a bar</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2aZfevywW2IAdc4wwM4KS0?si=2b8b3bc9c0814d74" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/judgemental-a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar/id1778373417" target="_blank">Apple</a></li><li><a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ce825f54-f9c9-44f3-8a48-486f7f35bc2c/judgemental---a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li></ul><p> </p><p> </p>
<p><p>This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets.&nbsp;For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.</p><p>The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of&nbsp;EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​</p><p><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/">Click here</a> for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.&nbsp;</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2025 05:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>gws@outlook.com.au (Greg Smith and Kate Connors)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Join Kate and Greg as they regroup for a conversation in the bar to discuss the recent High Court decision in the Adam Elisha v Vision Australia case. This case was initially discussed in Episode 4, when the conversation was recorded from a LinkedIn live event Kate & Greg hosted in early 2024.</p><p>In this episode, Greg summarises the High Court’s decision and distils the legal technicalities into manageable bite sized chunks – extremely helpful for those who find legal technicalities hard to digest! A summary? The High Court concluded that Mr Elisha’s loss was not “too remote”, and the precise psychiatric injury he suffered did not need to have been foreseen at the time the contract was entered.</p><p>Greg provides listeners with legal takeaways and Kate shares her views as to how this decision challenges her quest for psychological injuries and their severity to be reduced in workplaces.  But regardless, the discussion provides another perfect opportunity for the legal and psychological sides of risk management to be meaningfully discussed in a bar side chat.</p><p>Choose your drink, settle down and listen in to this special episode that not only concludes the Elisha v Vision Australia matter, but also brings Series 1 to a close….</p><p>Stay tuned for Series 2!</p><p>- Discussion of the High Court summary and the possible future impacts for employers</p><p>- What does this mean for psychosocial risk management, and does it change the approach?</p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>Connect with us:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-connors-09147228?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3B4OgtS9p%2BRL%2B5uHTlJeTJiQ%3D%3D">Kate Connors</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-smith-6a63449?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3BD2BPkvhRTU%2BOvAVtn8SEdw%3D%3D">Greg Smith</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/emlgroup">EML</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/mutual-benefits-program/">Mutual Benefits Program</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Resources:</strong></p><ul><li>The High Court decision paper - <a href="https://eresources.hcourt.gov.au/downloadPdf/2024/HCA/50" target="_blank">https://eresources.hcourt.gov.au/downloadPdf/2024/HCA/50</a></li><li>Elemental Psychology & Coaching  <a href="http://www.elementalcp.com.au/" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>Greg Smith – Safety Books <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Proving-Safety-problems-management-tyranny-ebook/dp/B0CYNVZ7H7/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3D2O8V51RPWUI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.h3ZROJcRioPtAVbULLxBoHyBnV7IlXGZ0l5nSYR34knYPJYUtD-eg869sj1bOePlanWNTnlh9BHb0-uR3esshNf4EPvYPqdqPaf5GXZoRGWGXY78mJK6CocYsbZfHaN96nEAGqUYXqKiN70an50XkAuaT8J0mnTurpWu3W86vmCufoHkYTYlEituyl1WrqToBPO0TkPBAW92Q5Svr_4S2QxtFn17mYToAevIYChYALlCSxo6BjTMgn6TywarSAqvlyzYk5T7KVwdCi2fT6LI8tH-ITmG8FnWr7eEC1HNYhw.pKhfu3MjAeJBoMk-g8U_p8pZ3hUOZQYzpAE3FMuej94&dib_tag=se&keywords=proving+safety&qid=1712665137&sprefix=proving+safety%2Caps%2C335&sr=8-2" target="_blank">Proving Safety</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Paper-Safe-triumph-bureaucracy-management-ebook/dp/B07HVRZY8C/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=f3jik&content-id=amzn1.sym.3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_p=3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_r=355-6490314-2496629&pd_rd_wg=mxqB8&pd_rd_r=6ec8434a-2f92-49d0-8073-e83af1894804&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk" target="_blank">Paper Safe</a></li><li>EML <a href="http://www.eml.com.au" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>EML Psychosocial resources – <a href="https://www.eml.com.au/mutual-benefits/" target="_blank">Mutual Benefitshttps://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Follow Judgemental: A psychologist and a lawyer walk into a bar</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2aZfevywW2IAdc4wwM4KS0?si=2b8b3bc9c0814d74" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/judgemental-a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar/id1778373417" target="_blank">Apple</a></li><li><a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ce825f54-f9c9-44f3-8a48-486f7f35bc2c/judgemental---a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li></ul><p> </p><p> </p>
<p><p>This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets.&nbsp;For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.</p><p>The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of&nbsp;EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​</p><p><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/">Click here</a> for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.&nbsp;</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>It’s time for Kate & Greg to wax lyrical about one of the most challenging psychosocial risks – interpersonal conflict.  Thankfully, the article published on LinkedIn by <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/karolinadobson/" target="_blank">Karolina Dobson</a>, referencing a study by Gutierrez & Bazeley (2006) brings an evidence base and helpful frameworks into the conversation so it doesn’t wander too far off track!</p><p>Once again, the complexity of managing psychosocial risk is highlighted in this fascinating conversation.  Are all psychosocial risks of equal “risk”? Are all conflicts of equal “risk”? And how do organisations navigate the reality that, just like with stress – not all conflict is harmful, and not all individuals have the same tolerance or response to conflict.  Can’t we all just be “adults” and sort it out between ourselves when conflict arises?  If only it was that simple….</p><p>If you are of drinking age and inclination, this is probably an episode where pouring yourself a standard measure of your favourite tonic will complement the conversation nicely.</p><p>- A review and discussion of Karolina Dobson’s LinkedIn Article, “Applying traditional approaches to psychological injury in the workplace: Have we been barking up the wrong tree?”</p><p>- Discussion of the research paper by Gutierrez, R and Bazely, P (2006). Workplace Psychological Injury: A Mixed Methods Investigation Into Workers' Compensation Claims.</p><p>- The balance of healthy conflict and unhealthy conflict. Is all conflict in the workplace harmful?</p><p>- Interpersonal conflict vs interpersonalised conflict</p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>Connect with us:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-connors-09147228?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3B4OgtS9p%2BRL%2B5uHTlJeTJiQ%3D%3D">Kate Connors</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-smith-6a63449?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3BD2BPkvhRTU%2BOvAVtn8SEdw%3D%3D">Greg Smith</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/karolinadobson/" target="_blank">Karolina Dobson</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/emlgroup">EML</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/mutual-benefits-program/">Mutual Benefits Program</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Resources:</strong></p><ul><li>“Applying traditional approaches to psychological injury in the workplace – have we been barking up the wrong tree?” - Karolina Dobson, 2024 Published in: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/applying-traditional-approaches-psychological-injury-workplace-r3vrc/?trackingId=tQHEo%2BoZSFyxN9y3d9Djpg%3D%3D" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></li><li>Elemental Psychology & Coaching  <a href="http://www.elementalcp.com.au/" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>Greg Smith – Safety Books <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Proving-Safety-problems-management-tyranny-ebook/dp/B0CYNVZ7H7/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3D2O8V51RPWUI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.h3ZROJcRioPtAVbULLxBoHyBnV7IlXGZ0l5nSYR34knYPJYUtD-eg869sj1bOePlanWNTnlh9BHb0-uR3esshNf4EPvYPqdqPaf5GXZoRGWGXY78mJK6CocYsbZfHaN96nEAGqUYXqKiN70an50XkAuaT8J0mnTurpWu3W86vmCufoHkYTYlEituyl1WrqToBPO0TkPBAW92Q5Svr_4S2QxtFn17mYToAevIYChYALlCSxo6BjTMgn6TywarSAqvlyzYk5T7KVwdCi2fT6LI8tH-ITmG8FnWr7eEC1HNYhw.pKhfu3MjAeJBoMk-g8U_p8pZ3hUOZQYzpAE3FMuej94&dib_tag=se&keywords=proving+safety&qid=1712665137&sprefix=proving+safety%2Caps%2C335&sr=8-2" target="_blank">Proving Safety</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Paper-Safe-triumph-bureaucracy-management-ebook/dp/B07HVRZY8C/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=f3jik&content-id=amzn1.sym.3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_p=3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_r=355-6490314-2496629&pd_rd_wg=mxqB8&pd_rd_r=6ec8434a-2f92-49d0-8073-e83af1894804&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk" target="_blank">Paper Safe</a></li><li>EML <a href="http://www.eml.com.au" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>EML Psychosocial resources – <a href="https://www.eml.com.au/mutual-benefits/" target="_blank">Mutual Benefitshttps://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Follow Judgemental: A psychologist and a lawyer walk into a bar</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2aZfevywW2IAdc4wwM4KS0?si=2b8b3bc9c0814d74" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/judgemental-a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar/id1778373417" target="_blank">Apple</a></li><li><a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ce825f54-f9c9-44f3-8a48-486f7f35bc2c/judgemental---a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li></ul><p> </p><p> </p>
<p><p>This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets.&nbsp;For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.</p><p>The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of&nbsp;EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​</p><p><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/">Click here</a> for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.&nbsp;</p></p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s time for Kate & Greg to wax lyrical about one of the most challenging psychosocial risks – interpersonal conflict.  Thankfully, the article published on LinkedIn by <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/karolinadobson/" target="_blank">Karolina Dobson</a>, referencing a study by Gutierrez & Bazeley (2006) brings an evidence base and helpful frameworks into the conversation so it doesn’t wander too far off track!</p><p>Once again, the complexity of managing psychosocial risk is highlighted in this fascinating conversation.  Are all psychosocial risks of equal “risk”? Are all conflicts of equal “risk”? And how do organisations navigate the reality that, just like with stress – not all conflict is harmful, and not all individuals have the same tolerance or response to conflict.  Can’t we all just be “adults” and sort it out between ourselves when conflict arises?  If only it was that simple….</p><p>If you are of drinking age and inclination, this is probably an episode where pouring yourself a standard measure of your favourite tonic will complement the conversation nicely.</p><p>- A review and discussion of Karolina Dobson’s LinkedIn Article, “Applying traditional approaches to psychological injury in the workplace: Have we been barking up the wrong tree?”</p><p>- Discussion of the research paper by Gutierrez, R and Bazely, P (2006). Workplace Psychological Injury: A Mixed Methods Investigation Into Workers' Compensation Claims.</p><p>- The balance of healthy conflict and unhealthy conflict. Is all conflict in the workplace harmful?</p><p>- Interpersonal conflict vs interpersonalised conflict</p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>Connect with us:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-connors-09147228?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3B4OgtS9p%2BRL%2B5uHTlJeTJiQ%3D%3D">Kate Connors</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-smith-6a63449?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3BD2BPkvhRTU%2BOvAVtn8SEdw%3D%3D">Greg Smith</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/karolinadobson/" target="_blank">Karolina Dobson</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/emlgroup">EML</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/mutual-benefits-program/">Mutual Benefits Program</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Resources:</strong></p><ul><li>“Applying traditional approaches to psychological injury in the workplace – have we been barking up the wrong tree?” - Karolina Dobson, 2024 Published in: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/applying-traditional-approaches-psychological-injury-workplace-r3vrc/?trackingId=tQHEo%2BoZSFyxN9y3d9Djpg%3D%3D" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></li><li>Elemental Psychology & Coaching  <a href="http://www.elementalcp.com.au/" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>Greg Smith – Safety Books <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Proving-Safety-problems-management-tyranny-ebook/dp/B0CYNVZ7H7/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3D2O8V51RPWUI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.h3ZROJcRioPtAVbULLxBoHyBnV7IlXGZ0l5nSYR34knYPJYUtD-eg869sj1bOePlanWNTnlh9BHb0-uR3esshNf4EPvYPqdqPaf5GXZoRGWGXY78mJK6CocYsbZfHaN96nEAGqUYXqKiN70an50XkAuaT8J0mnTurpWu3W86vmCufoHkYTYlEituyl1WrqToBPO0TkPBAW92Q5Svr_4S2QxtFn17mYToAevIYChYALlCSxo6BjTMgn6TywarSAqvlyzYk5T7KVwdCi2fT6LI8tH-ITmG8FnWr7eEC1HNYhw.pKhfu3MjAeJBoMk-g8U_p8pZ3hUOZQYzpAE3FMuej94&dib_tag=se&keywords=proving+safety&qid=1712665137&sprefix=proving+safety%2Caps%2C335&sr=8-2" target="_blank">Proving Safety</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Paper-Safe-triumph-bureaucracy-management-ebook/dp/B07HVRZY8C/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=f3jik&content-id=amzn1.sym.3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_p=3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_r=355-6490314-2496629&pd_rd_wg=mxqB8&pd_rd_r=6ec8434a-2f92-49d0-8073-e83af1894804&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk" target="_blank">Paper Safe</a></li><li>EML <a href="http://www.eml.com.au" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>EML Psychosocial resources – <a href="https://www.eml.com.au/mutual-benefits/" target="_blank">Mutual Benefitshttps://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Follow Judgemental: A psychologist and a lawyer walk into a bar</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2aZfevywW2IAdc4wwM4KS0?si=2b8b3bc9c0814d74" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/judgemental-a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar/id1778373417" target="_blank">Apple</a></li><li><a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ce825f54-f9c9-44f3-8a48-486f7f35bc2c/judgemental---a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li></ul><p> </p><p> </p>
<p><p>This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets.&nbsp;For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.</p><p>The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of&nbsp;EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​</p><p><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/">Click here</a> for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.&nbsp;</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Join Kate & Greg for a special episode, where the conversation was recorded from a LinkedIn live event from early in 2024.</p><p>The focus of this episode is to discuss a High Court decision that examines an employer’s duty of care to manage the psychosocial risk of organisational justice, during employment termination decisions and processes.  During the conversation the importance of employers taking reasonable action to meaningfully protect and maintain duty of care – particularly when observable signs and symptoms of psychological distress are evident in the employee.  Combine that with clear evidence of the deterioration of leadership support, and the complexity of mitigating against the harm that can be caused in organisational justice processes and procedures, particularly when the trust between an employee and their employer is broken, and we have the basis for another interesting conversation.</p><p>Whether you grab a cuppa (or something stronger), choose your liquid and settle into the virtual bar for another conversation on the complexity of psychosocial risk management.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>Connect with us:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-connors-09147228?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3B4OgtS9p%2BRL%2B5uHTlJeTJiQ%3D%3D">Kate Connors</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-smith-6a63449?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3BD2BPkvhRTU%2BOvAVtn8SEdw%3D%3D">Greg Smith</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/emlgroup">EML</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/mutual-benefits-program/">Mutual Benefits Program</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.hcourt.gov.au/cases/case_m22-2024" target="_blank">Elisha v Vision Australia Limited M22/2024 - High Court Material</a></li><li><a href="https://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/vic/VSCA/2023/288.html" target="_blank">Vision Australia Ltd v Elisha [No 2] [2023] VSCA 288 (28 November 2023) - Appeal</a></li><li><a href="https://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/vic/VSC/2022/754.html" target="_blank">Elisha v Vision Australia Ltd [2022] VSC 754 (13 December 2022) - First instance</a></li><li>Elemental Psychology & Coaching  <a href="http://www.elementalcp.com.au/" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>Greg Smith – Safety Books <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Proving-Safety-problems-management-tyranny-ebook/dp/B0CYNVZ7H7/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3D2O8V51RPWUI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.h3ZROJcRioPtAVbULLxBoHyBnV7IlXGZ0l5nSYR34knYPJYUtD-eg869sj1bOePlanWNTnlh9BHb0-uR3esshNf4EPvYPqdqPaf5GXZoRGWGXY78mJK6CocYsbZfHaN96nEAGqUYXqKiN70an50XkAuaT8J0mnTurpWu3W86vmCufoHkYTYlEituyl1WrqToBPO0TkPBAW92Q5Svr_4S2QxtFn17mYToAevIYChYALlCSxo6BjTMgn6TywarSAqvlyzYk5T7KVwdCi2fT6LI8tH-ITmG8FnWr7eEC1HNYhw.pKhfu3MjAeJBoMk-g8U_p8pZ3hUOZQYzpAE3FMuej94&dib_tag=se&keywords=proving+safety&qid=1712665137&sprefix=proving+safety%2Caps%2C335&sr=8-2" target="_blank">Proving Safety</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Paper-Safe-triumph-bureaucracy-management-ebook/dp/B07HVRZY8C/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=f3jik&content-id=amzn1.sym.3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_p=3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_r=355-6490314-2496629&pd_rd_wg=mxqB8&pd_rd_r=6ec8434a-2f92-49d0-8073-e83af1894804&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk" target="_blank">Paper Safe</a></li><li>EML <a href="http://www.eml.com.au" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>EML Psychosocial resources – <a href="https://www.eml.com.au/mutual-benefits/" target="_blank">Mutual Benefitshttps://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Follow Judgemental: A psychologist and a lawyer walk into a bar</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2aZfevywW2IAdc4wwM4KS0?si=2b8b3bc9c0814d74" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/judgemental-a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar/id1778373417" target="_blank">Apple</a></li><li><a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ce825f54-f9c9-44f3-8a48-486f7f35bc2c/judgemental---a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li></ul><p> </p><p> </p>
<p><p>This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets.&nbsp;For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.</p><p>The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of&nbsp;EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​</p><p><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/">Click here</a> for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.&nbsp;</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Nov 2024 05:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Join Kate & Greg for a special episode, where the conversation was recorded from a LinkedIn live event from early in 2024.</p><p>The focus of this episode is to discuss a High Court decision that examines an employer’s duty of care to manage the psychosocial risk of organisational justice, during employment termination decisions and processes.  During the conversation the importance of employers taking reasonable action to meaningfully protect and maintain duty of care – particularly when observable signs and symptoms of psychological distress are evident in the employee.  Combine that with clear evidence of the deterioration of leadership support, and the complexity of mitigating against the harm that can be caused in organisational justice processes and procedures, particularly when the trust between an employee and their employer is broken, and we have the basis for another interesting conversation.</p><p>Whether you grab a cuppa (or something stronger), choose your liquid and settle into the virtual bar for another conversation on the complexity of psychosocial risk management.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>Connect with us:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-connors-09147228?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3B4OgtS9p%2BRL%2B5uHTlJeTJiQ%3D%3D">Kate Connors</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-smith-6a63449?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3BD2BPkvhRTU%2BOvAVtn8SEdw%3D%3D">Greg Smith</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/emlgroup">EML</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/mutual-benefits-program/">Mutual Benefits Program</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Resources:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.hcourt.gov.au/cases/case_m22-2024" target="_blank">Elisha v Vision Australia Limited M22/2024 - High Court Material</a></li><li><a href="https://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/vic/VSCA/2023/288.html" target="_blank">Vision Australia Ltd v Elisha [No 2] [2023] VSCA 288 (28 November 2023) - Appeal</a></li><li><a href="https://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/vic/VSC/2022/754.html" target="_blank">Elisha v Vision Australia Ltd [2022] VSC 754 (13 December 2022) - First instance</a></li><li>Elemental Psychology & Coaching  <a href="http://www.elementalcp.com.au/" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>Greg Smith – Safety Books <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Proving-Safety-problems-management-tyranny-ebook/dp/B0CYNVZ7H7/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3D2O8V51RPWUI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.h3ZROJcRioPtAVbULLxBoHyBnV7IlXGZ0l5nSYR34knYPJYUtD-eg869sj1bOePlanWNTnlh9BHb0-uR3esshNf4EPvYPqdqPaf5GXZoRGWGXY78mJK6CocYsbZfHaN96nEAGqUYXqKiN70an50XkAuaT8J0mnTurpWu3W86vmCufoHkYTYlEituyl1WrqToBPO0TkPBAW92Q5Svr_4S2QxtFn17mYToAevIYChYALlCSxo6BjTMgn6TywarSAqvlyzYk5T7KVwdCi2fT6LI8tH-ITmG8FnWr7eEC1HNYhw.pKhfu3MjAeJBoMk-g8U_p8pZ3hUOZQYzpAE3FMuej94&dib_tag=se&keywords=proving+safety&qid=1712665137&sprefix=proving+safety%2Caps%2C335&sr=8-2" target="_blank">Proving Safety</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Paper-Safe-triumph-bureaucracy-management-ebook/dp/B07HVRZY8C/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=f3jik&content-id=amzn1.sym.3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_p=3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_r=355-6490314-2496629&pd_rd_wg=mxqB8&pd_rd_r=6ec8434a-2f92-49d0-8073-e83af1894804&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk" target="_blank">Paper Safe</a></li><li>EML <a href="http://www.eml.com.au" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>EML Psychosocial resources – <a href="https://www.eml.com.au/mutual-benefits/" target="_blank">Mutual Benefitshttps://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Follow Judgemental: A psychologist and a lawyer walk into a bar</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2aZfevywW2IAdc4wwM4KS0?si=2b8b3bc9c0814d74" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/judgemental-a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar/id1778373417" target="_blank">Apple</a></li><li><a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ce825f54-f9c9-44f3-8a48-486f7f35bc2c/judgemental---a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li></ul><p> </p><p> </p>
<p><p>This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets.&nbsp;For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.</p><p>The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of&nbsp;EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​</p><p><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/">Click here</a> for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.&nbsp;</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Kate & Greg are back in the bar and they are in the mood to chat!</p><p>In this episode, Kate and Greg delve into a decision from the Fair Work Commission which reveals some interesting legal and psychological intersections and incongruencies! The conversation centres around employer investigation processes and efforts to protect employees from exposure to additional psychological distress when asked to provide information during investigations, and during formal hearings. The conversation covers procedural fairness, duty of care and “speak up” cultures. Kate and Greg also discuss the importance of HR practitioners in an investigative process and give caution to not over promise as they navigate the complexities of their role.</p><p>Whether you grab a cuppa (or something stronger), choose your liquid and settle into the virtual bar for another conversation on the complexity of psychosocial risk management.</p><p>- Overview of the Fair Work Commission decision of the case Mr Zoran Mojanovski v BlueScope Steel Limited (U2024/2763)</p><p>- Discussion of the complexities for workplaces when it comes to confidentiality and discretion in the investigation process.</p><p>- Where are the learnings for organisations in creating a psychosocially safe workplace?</p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>Connect with us:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-connors-09147228?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3B4OgtS9p%2BRL%2B5uHTlJeTJiQ%3D%3D">Kate Connors</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-smith-6a63449?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3BD2BPkvhRTU%2BOvAVtn8SEdw%3D%3D">Greg Smith</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/emlgroup">EML</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/mutual-benefits-program/">Mutual Benefits Program</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Resources:</strong></p><ul><li>Fair Work Commission, Decision Summary, Mr Zoran Mojanovski v BlueScope Steel Limited (U2024/2763), Available at <a href="https://www.fwc.gov.au/documents/decisionssigned/pdf/2024fwc1473.pdf" target="_blank">2024fwc1473.pdf</a></li><li>Elemental Psychology & Coaching  <a href="http://www.elementalcp.com.au/" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>Greg Smith – Safety Books <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Proving-Safety-problems-management-tyranny-ebook/dp/B0CYNVZ7H7/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3D2O8V51RPWUI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.h3ZROJcRioPtAVbULLxBoHyBnV7IlXGZ0l5nSYR34knYPJYUtD-eg869sj1bOePlanWNTnlh9BHb0-uR3esshNf4EPvYPqdqPaf5GXZoRGWGXY78mJK6CocYsbZfHaN96nEAGqUYXqKiN70an50XkAuaT8J0mnTurpWu3W86vmCufoHkYTYlEituyl1WrqToBPO0TkPBAW92Q5Svr_4S2QxtFn17mYToAevIYChYALlCSxo6BjTMgn6TywarSAqvlyzYk5T7KVwdCi2fT6LI8tH-ITmG8FnWr7eEC1HNYhw.pKhfu3MjAeJBoMk-g8U_p8pZ3hUOZQYzpAE3FMuej94&dib_tag=se&keywords=proving+safety&qid=1712665137&sprefix=proving+safety%2Caps%2C335&sr=8-2" target="_blank">Proving Safety</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Paper-Safe-triumph-bureaucracy-management-ebook/dp/B07HVRZY8C/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=f3jik&content-id=amzn1.sym.3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_p=3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_r=355-6490314-2496629&pd_rd_wg=mxqB8&pd_rd_r=6ec8434a-2f92-49d0-8073-e83af1894804&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk" target="_blank">Paper Safe</a></li><li>EML <a href="http://www.eml.com.au" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>EML Psychosocial resources – <a href="https://www.eml.com.au/mutual-benefits/" target="_blank">Mutual Benefitshttps://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Follow Judgemental: A psychologist and a lawyer walk into a bar</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2aZfevywW2IAdc4wwM4KS0?si=2b8b3bc9c0814d74" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/judgemental-a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar/id1778373417" target="_blank">Apple</a></li><li><a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ce825f54-f9c9-44f3-8a48-486f7f35bc2c/judgemental---a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li></ul><p> </p><p> </p>
<p><p>This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets.&nbsp;For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.</p><p>The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of&nbsp;EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​</p><p><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/">Click here</a> for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.&nbsp;</p></p>]]></description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 21 Nov 2024 00:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>gws@outlook.com.au (Greg Smith and Kate Connors)</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate & Greg are back in the bar and they are in the mood to chat!</p><p>In this episode, Kate and Greg delve into a decision from the Fair Work Commission which reveals some interesting legal and psychological intersections and incongruencies! The conversation centres around employer investigation processes and efforts to protect employees from exposure to additional psychological distress when asked to provide information during investigations, and during formal hearings. The conversation covers procedural fairness, duty of care and “speak up” cultures. Kate and Greg also discuss the importance of HR practitioners in an investigative process and give caution to not over promise as they navigate the complexities of their role.</p><p>Whether you grab a cuppa (or something stronger), choose your liquid and settle into the virtual bar for another conversation on the complexity of psychosocial risk management.</p><p>- Overview of the Fair Work Commission decision of the case Mr Zoran Mojanovski v BlueScope Steel Limited (U2024/2763)</p><p>- Discussion of the complexities for workplaces when it comes to confidentiality and discretion in the investigation process.</p><p>- Where are the learnings for organisations in creating a psychosocially safe workplace?</p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>Connect with us:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-connors-09147228?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3B4OgtS9p%2BRL%2B5uHTlJeTJiQ%3D%3D">Kate Connors</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-smith-6a63449?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3BD2BPkvhRTU%2BOvAVtn8SEdw%3D%3D">Greg Smith</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/emlgroup">EML</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/mutual-benefits-program/">Mutual Benefits Program</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Resources:</strong></p><ul><li>Fair Work Commission, Decision Summary, Mr Zoran Mojanovski v BlueScope Steel Limited (U2024/2763), Available at <a href="https://www.fwc.gov.au/documents/decisionssigned/pdf/2024fwc1473.pdf" target="_blank">2024fwc1473.pdf</a></li><li>Elemental Psychology & Coaching  <a href="http://www.elementalcp.com.au/" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>Greg Smith – Safety Books <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Proving-Safety-problems-management-tyranny-ebook/dp/B0CYNVZ7H7/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3D2O8V51RPWUI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.h3ZROJcRioPtAVbULLxBoHyBnV7IlXGZ0l5nSYR34knYPJYUtD-eg869sj1bOePlanWNTnlh9BHb0-uR3esshNf4EPvYPqdqPaf5GXZoRGWGXY78mJK6CocYsbZfHaN96nEAGqUYXqKiN70an50XkAuaT8J0mnTurpWu3W86vmCufoHkYTYlEituyl1WrqToBPO0TkPBAW92Q5Svr_4S2QxtFn17mYToAevIYChYALlCSxo6BjTMgn6TywarSAqvlyzYk5T7KVwdCi2fT6LI8tH-ITmG8FnWr7eEC1HNYhw.pKhfu3MjAeJBoMk-g8U_p8pZ3hUOZQYzpAE3FMuej94&dib_tag=se&keywords=proving+safety&qid=1712665137&sprefix=proving+safety%2Caps%2C335&sr=8-2" target="_blank">Proving Safety</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Paper-Safe-triumph-bureaucracy-management-ebook/dp/B07HVRZY8C/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=f3jik&content-id=amzn1.sym.3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_p=3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_r=355-6490314-2496629&pd_rd_wg=mxqB8&pd_rd_r=6ec8434a-2f92-49d0-8073-e83af1894804&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk" target="_blank">Paper Safe</a></li><li>EML <a href="http://www.eml.com.au" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>EML Psychosocial resources – <a href="https://www.eml.com.au/mutual-benefits/" target="_blank">Mutual Benefitshttps://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Follow Judgemental: A psychologist and a lawyer walk into a bar</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2aZfevywW2IAdc4wwM4KS0?si=2b8b3bc9c0814d74" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/judgemental-a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar/id1778373417" target="_blank">Apple</a></li><li><a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ce825f54-f9c9-44f3-8a48-486f7f35bc2c/judgemental---a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li></ul><p> </p><p> </p>
<p><p>This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets.&nbsp;For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.</p><p>The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of&nbsp;EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​</p><p><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/">Click here</a> for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.&nbsp;</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for joining us for our first detailed conversation in the bar.</p><p>In this episode, Kate and Greg jump out of the gates and into a lively conversation on why “psychosocial risk” isn’t actually a shiny new toy the way some are speaking about it in the market – but actually has been within WHS regulatory frameworks since WHS regulator frameworks began.  The conversation is anchored in a paper written by Rick & Briner in 2000, where the authors do a fantastic job of explaining psychosocial risk, but also how psychosocial risks are inherently different from physical risks.  Kate and Greg share their thoughts on what that means for day-to-day application, and why it’s important to consider psychosocial risks differently.</p><p>Grab your drink of fancy, settle in and join Kate and Greg as they expand your “safety” and “psychological” literacy, whilst having some fun along the way!”</p><p>-  Overview of the journal article “Psychosocial risk assessment: problems and prospects”</p><p>-  Concepts of psychosocial risk assessments today</p><p>-  What’s changed – and what more needs to change?</p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>Connect with us:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-connors-09147228?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3B4OgtS9p%2BRL%2B5uHTlJeTJiQ%3D%3D">Kate Connors</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-smith-6a63449?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3BD2BPkvhRTU%2BOvAVtn8SEdw%3D%3D">Greg Smith</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/emlgroup">EML</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/mutual-benefits-program/">Mutual Benefits Program</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Resources:</strong></p><ul><li>J. Rick, R. B. Briner, Psychosocial Risk Assessment: Problems and Prospects, Occupational Medicine, Volume 50, Issue 5, July 2000, Pages 310–314, <a href="https://doi.org/10.1093/occmed/50.5.310">https://doi.org/10.1093/occmed/50.5.310</a></li><li>Elemental Psychology & Coaching  <a href="http://www.elementalcp.com.au/" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>Greg Smith – Safety Books <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Proving-Safety-problems-management-tyranny-ebook/dp/B0CYNVZ7H7/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3D2O8V51RPWUI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.h3ZROJcRioPtAVbULLxBoHyBnV7IlXGZ0l5nSYR34knYPJYUtD-eg869sj1bOePlanWNTnlh9BHb0-uR3esshNf4EPvYPqdqPaf5GXZoRGWGXY78mJK6CocYsbZfHaN96nEAGqUYXqKiN70an50XkAuaT8J0mnTurpWu3W86vmCufoHkYTYlEituyl1WrqToBPO0TkPBAW92Q5Svr_4S2QxtFn17mYToAevIYChYALlCSxo6BjTMgn6TywarSAqvlyzYk5T7KVwdCi2fT6LI8tH-ITmG8FnWr7eEC1HNYhw.pKhfu3MjAeJBoMk-g8U_p8pZ3hUOZQYzpAE3FMuej94&dib_tag=se&keywords=proving+safety&qid=1712665137&sprefix=proving+safety%2Caps%2C335&sr=8-2" target="_blank">Proving Safety</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Paper-Safe-triumph-bureaucracy-management-ebook/dp/B07HVRZY8C/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=f3jik&content-id=amzn1.sym.3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_p=3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_r=355-6490314-2496629&pd_rd_wg=mxqB8&pd_rd_r=6ec8434a-2f92-49d0-8073-e83af1894804&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk" target="_blank">Paper Safe</a></li><li>EML <a href="http://www.eml.com.au" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>EML Psychosocial resources – <a href="https://www.eml.com.au/mutual-benefits/" target="_blank">Mutual Benefitshttps://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Follow Judgemental: A psychologist and a lawyer walk into a bar</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2aZfevywW2IAdc4wwM4KS0?si=2b8b3bc9c0814d74" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/judgemental-a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar/id1778373417" target="_blank">Apple</a></li><li><a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ce825f54-f9c9-44f3-8a48-486f7f35bc2c/judgemental---a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li></ul><p> </p><p> </p>
<p><p>This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets.&nbsp;For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.</p><p>The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of&nbsp;EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​</p><p><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/">Click here</a> for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.&nbsp;</p></p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for joining us for our first detailed conversation in the bar.</p><p>In this episode, Kate and Greg jump out of the gates and into a lively conversation on why “psychosocial risk” isn’t actually a shiny new toy the way some are speaking about it in the market – but actually has been within WHS regulatory frameworks since WHS regulator frameworks began.  The conversation is anchored in a paper written by Rick & Briner in 2000, where the authors do a fantastic job of explaining psychosocial risk, but also how psychosocial risks are inherently different from physical risks.  Kate and Greg share their thoughts on what that means for day-to-day application, and why it’s important to consider psychosocial risks differently.</p><p>Grab your drink of fancy, settle in and join Kate and Greg as they expand your “safety” and “psychological” literacy, whilst having some fun along the way!”</p><p>-  Overview of the journal article “Psychosocial risk assessment: problems and prospects”</p><p>-  Concepts of psychosocial risk assessments today</p><p>-  What’s changed – and what more needs to change?</p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>Connect with us:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-connors-09147228?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3B4OgtS9p%2BRL%2B5uHTlJeTJiQ%3D%3D">Kate Connors</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-smith-6a63449?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3BD2BPkvhRTU%2BOvAVtn8SEdw%3D%3D">Greg Smith</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/emlgroup">EML</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/mutual-benefits-program/">Mutual Benefits Program</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Resources:</strong></p><ul><li>J. Rick, R. B. Briner, Psychosocial Risk Assessment: Problems and Prospects, Occupational Medicine, Volume 50, Issue 5, July 2000, Pages 310–314, <a href="https://doi.org/10.1093/occmed/50.5.310">https://doi.org/10.1093/occmed/50.5.310</a></li><li>Elemental Psychology & Coaching  <a href="http://www.elementalcp.com.au/" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>Greg Smith – Safety Books <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Proving-Safety-problems-management-tyranny-ebook/dp/B0CYNVZ7H7/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3D2O8V51RPWUI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.h3ZROJcRioPtAVbULLxBoHyBnV7IlXGZ0l5nSYR34knYPJYUtD-eg869sj1bOePlanWNTnlh9BHb0-uR3esshNf4EPvYPqdqPaf5GXZoRGWGXY78mJK6CocYsbZfHaN96nEAGqUYXqKiN70an50XkAuaT8J0mnTurpWu3W86vmCufoHkYTYlEituyl1WrqToBPO0TkPBAW92Q5Svr_4S2QxtFn17mYToAevIYChYALlCSxo6BjTMgn6TywarSAqvlyzYk5T7KVwdCi2fT6LI8tH-ITmG8FnWr7eEC1HNYhw.pKhfu3MjAeJBoMk-g8U_p8pZ3hUOZQYzpAE3FMuej94&dib_tag=se&keywords=proving+safety&qid=1712665137&sprefix=proving+safety%2Caps%2C335&sr=8-2" target="_blank">Proving Safety</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Paper-Safe-triumph-bureaucracy-management-ebook/dp/B07HVRZY8C/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=f3jik&content-id=amzn1.sym.3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_p=3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_r=355-6490314-2496629&pd_rd_wg=mxqB8&pd_rd_r=6ec8434a-2f92-49d0-8073-e83af1894804&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk" target="_blank">Paper Safe</a></li><li>EML <a href="http://www.eml.com.au" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>EML Psychosocial resources – <a href="https://www.eml.com.au/mutual-benefits/" target="_blank">Mutual Benefitshttps://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Follow Judgemental: A psychologist and a lawyer walk into a bar</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2aZfevywW2IAdc4wwM4KS0?si=2b8b3bc9c0814d74" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/judgemental-a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar/id1778373417" target="_blank">Apple</a></li><li><a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ce825f54-f9c9-44f3-8a48-486f7f35bc2c/judgemental---a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li></ul><p> </p><p> </p>
<p><p>This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets.&nbsp;For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.</p><p>The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of&nbsp;EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​</p><p><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/">Click here</a> for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.&nbsp;</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In episode one, Kate and Greg share their experience working in the legal and psychology fields and discuss how their insights into both fields overlap. They discuss their motivations for creating the podcast and share their views around the "flavour of the month" phenomena that is psychosocial risk management. Having first met in the early stages of their careers nearly 30 years ago, Kate and Greg are on still on a quest to break the myth that psychosocial regulation is a “new” concept. They believe traditional workplace health and safety processes are not enough to make a genuine difference to protect people’s psychological health, or an employer’s legal risks. So, if that’s the case, what is?</p><p>Grab a drink, join Kate and Greg in conversation as they expand your “safety” and “psychological” literacy and have some fun along the way!”</p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>Connect with us:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-connors-09147228?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3B4OgtS9p%2BRL%2B5uHTlJeTJiQ%3D%3D">Kate Connors</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-smith-6a63449?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3BD2BPkvhRTU%2BOvAVtn8SEdw%3D%3D">Greg Smith</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/emlgroup">EML</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/mutual-benefits-program/">Mutual Benefits Program</a></li></ul><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>Resources:</strong></p><ul><li>Elemental Psychology & Coaching <a href="http://www.elementalcp.com.au/" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>Greg Smith – Safety Books <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Proving-Safety-problems-management-tyranny-ebook/dp/B0CYNVZ7H7/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3D2O8V51RPWUI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.h3ZROJcRioPtAVbULLxBoHyBnV7IlXGZ0l5nSYR34knYPJYUtD-eg869sj1bOePlanWNTnlh9BHb0-uR3esshNf4EPvYPqdqPaf5GXZoRGWGXY78mJK6CocYsbZfHaN96nEAGqUYXqKiN70an50XkAuaT8J0mnTurpWu3W86vmCufoHkYTYlEituyl1WrqToBPO0TkPBAW92Q5Svr_4S2QxtFn17mYToAevIYChYALlCSxo6BjTMgn6TywarSAqvlyzYk5T7KVwdCi2fT6LI8tH-ITmG8FnWr7eEC1HNYhw.pKhfu3MjAeJBoMk-g8U_p8pZ3hUOZQYzpAE3FMuej94&dib_tag=se&keywords=proving+safety&qid=1712665137&sprefix=proving+safety%2Caps%2C335&sr=8-2" target="_blank">Proving Safety</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Paper-Safe-triumph-bureaucracy-management-ebook/dp/B07HVRZY8C/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=f3jik&content-id=amzn1.sym.3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_p=3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_r=355-6490314-2496629&pd_rd_wg=mxqB8&pd_rd_r=6ec8434a-2f92-49d0-8073-e83af1894804&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk" target="_blank">Paper Safe</a></li><li>EML <a href="http://www.eml.com.au" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>EML Psychosocial resources – <a href="https://www.eml.com.au/mutual-benefits/" target="_blank">Mutual Benefitshttps://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Follow Judgemental: A psychologist and a lawyer walk into a bar</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2aZfevywW2IAdc4wwM4KS0?si=2b8b3bc9c0814d74" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/judgemental-a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar/id1778373417" target="_blank">Apple</a></li><li><a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ce825f54-f9c9-44f3-8a48-486f7f35bc2c/judgemental---a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li></ul><p> </p><p> </p>
<p><p>This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets.&nbsp;For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.</p><p>The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of&nbsp;EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​</p><p><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/">Click here</a> for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.&nbsp;</p></p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In episode one, Kate and Greg share their experience working in the legal and psychology fields and discuss how their insights into both fields overlap. They discuss their motivations for creating the podcast and share their views around the "flavour of the month" phenomena that is psychosocial risk management. Having first met in the early stages of their careers nearly 30 years ago, Kate and Greg are on still on a quest to break the myth that psychosocial regulation is a “new” concept. They believe traditional workplace health and safety processes are not enough to make a genuine difference to protect people’s psychological health, or an employer’s legal risks. So, if that’s the case, what is?</p><p>Grab a drink, join Kate and Greg in conversation as they expand your “safety” and “psychological” literacy and have some fun along the way!”</p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>Connect with us:</strong></p><ul><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-connors-09147228?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3B4OgtS9p%2BRL%2B5uHTlJeTJiQ%3D%3D">Kate Connors</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-smith-6a63449?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3BD2BPkvhRTU%2BOvAVtn8SEdw%3D%3D">Greg Smith</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/emlgroup">EML</a></li><li>LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/mutual-benefits-program/">Mutual Benefits Program</a></li></ul><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>Resources:</strong></p><ul><li>Elemental Psychology & Coaching <a href="http://www.elementalcp.com.au/" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>Greg Smith – Safety Books <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Proving-Safety-problems-management-tyranny-ebook/dp/B0CYNVZ7H7/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3D2O8V51RPWUI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.h3ZROJcRioPtAVbULLxBoHyBnV7IlXGZ0l5nSYR34knYPJYUtD-eg869sj1bOePlanWNTnlh9BHb0-uR3esshNf4EPvYPqdqPaf5GXZoRGWGXY78mJK6CocYsbZfHaN96nEAGqUYXqKiN70an50XkAuaT8J0mnTurpWu3W86vmCufoHkYTYlEituyl1WrqToBPO0TkPBAW92Q5Svr_4S2QxtFn17mYToAevIYChYALlCSxo6BjTMgn6TywarSAqvlyzYk5T7KVwdCi2fT6LI8tH-ITmG8FnWr7eEC1HNYhw.pKhfu3MjAeJBoMk-g8U_p8pZ3hUOZQYzpAE3FMuej94&dib_tag=se&keywords=proving+safety&qid=1712665137&sprefix=proving+safety%2Caps%2C335&sr=8-2" target="_blank">Proving Safety</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Paper-Safe-triumph-bureaucracy-management-ebook/dp/B07HVRZY8C/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=f3jik&content-id=amzn1.sym.3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_p=3a6cb67e-b8be-4594-8924-2b0749ee4dd0&pf_rd_r=355-6490314-2496629&pd_rd_wg=mxqB8&pd_rd_r=6ec8434a-2f92-49d0-8073-e83af1894804&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk" target="_blank">Paper Safe</a></li><li>EML <a href="http://www.eml.com.au" target="_blank">website</a></li><li>EML Psychosocial resources – <a href="https://www.eml.com.au/mutual-benefits/" target="_blank">Mutual Benefitshttps://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/</a></li></ul><p> </p><p><br /><strong>Follow Judgemental: A psychologist and a lawyer walk into a bar</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2aZfevywW2IAdc4wwM4KS0?si=2b8b3bc9c0814d74" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/judgemental-a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar/id1778373417" target="_blank">Apple</a></li><li><a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ce825f54-f9c9-44f3-8a48-486f7f35bc2c/judgemental---a-psychologist-and-a-lawyer-walk-into-a-bar" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li></ul><p> </p><p> </p>
<p><p>This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets.&nbsp;For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.</p><p>The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of&nbsp;EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​</p><p><a href="https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/">Click here</a> for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.&nbsp;</p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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