• How a handful of stocks hold up the entire S&P, and what happens to the other 94% if they crack
• Why he says this year's earnings growth is just the market counting its own gains twice
• How a two-month rally created five times more money than everything printed during Covid
• Why he thinks the government needs a 25-35% crash first, and the Hank Paulson interview he reads as the warning shot
• What the government will tell people when it starts buying stocks
• Why he owns Bitcoin and still doesn't think it'll be allowed to win

Cem is a former market maker who now runs Kai Volatility Advisors. Follow him on X at https://x.com/jam_croissant 

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• The Sovereign Summit is coming to Miami in February 2027. Get discounted passes using code HODL: https://thesovereignsummit.com
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This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

• The Fed hiked on bad jobs data: 60,000 jobs just vanished from the record
• The $6 billion experiment: the Treasury is buying its own debt to push rates down, and rates went up anyway
• "Crypto Mom" signs off: nine years, a hundred dissents, one goodbye letter, and a two-person SEC left to write the rules
• Gold for Bitcoin? Citi's $113K call, a nine-day ETF streak, and the most conservative investor on earth making a trade nobody saw coming

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She brings a case she couldn't fully discuss last time, when 37 neighbors in a small Texas county sued MARA over the facility next door and claimed the noise was damaging their health. We get into what happened when that case reached discovery, and then into the bigger question of how any of us are supposed to coexist with the infrastructure behind the technology we all use every day:

• What the plaintiffs were asked to produce, and which claims vanished first

• The difference between a legal nuisance and something you simply don't want nearby

• What changes when a Bitcoin mine becomes an AI data center

• Why the places saying no may be the ones that fall behind 

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Get 0.25% off your first loan at ledn.io/natalie. Terms apply — see the site for details.

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Explore Bitcoin mining as part of your tax and alternative investment strategy. Own the equipment. Keep 100% of the Bitcoin it produces. Fully managed in the U.S. Learn more and get 1 month of free hosting: AbundantMines.com/Natalie

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Learn about multisig self-custody without a seed phrase. Download Bitkey Today and use my promo code STORIES to get 10% off the new Bitkey. This episode has been sponsored by Bitkey: https://bitkey.world/STORIES 

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Natalie's Upcoming Events:

• The Sovereign Summit is coming to Miami in February 2027. Get discounted passes using code HODL: https://thesovereignsummit.com 
• The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL 

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ABOUT COIN STORIES & THE NEWS BLOCK

Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

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Read Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com/freechapters

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This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

That's the question behind this episode. We look at why your paycheck doesn't stretch as far, why buying a home is so much harder, and why so many things cost more while giving you less.

From shrinkflation and CEO incentives to bailouts and crony capitalism, the bigger story is about the rules and incentives underneath the economy. And that leads to the final question: what changed about the money itself, and where does Bitcoin fit in?

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This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

• Bond yields hit a 20-year high and Bitcoin held anyway. Here's what the buyers know
• Ric Edelman went from 1% to a 10% Bitcoin floor. Why the man who built a $350 billion firm says 60/40 is dead
• Strategy wants to pay you every single day, and it's not the only one
• $387 million walked out of an exchange in an afternoon, and Bitcoin never flinched

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0.25% off your first loan at ledn.io/natalie. Terms apply.

My book: "Bitcoin Is for Everyone," an approachable introduction to Bitcoin — amzn.to/3WzFzfU. 

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This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

Simon pulls back the curtain on how transnational power structures operate, why the $40 trillion national debt is being leveraged against ordinary citizens, and how individuals can escape debt slavery by adopting a low time preference and taking control of their money. We discuss:

• How the Financial, Military, and Tech Industrial Complexes (FIC, MIC, TIC) engineer a multipolar world
• Why $40 trillion in national debt is a Ponzi scheme that will never be repaid
• How 7% mortgage rates and central bank policies are creating a generation of "serfs"
• The situation that would make him "sell all of his Bitcoin"
• Understanding the Game of Money to break free and own your future

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Borrow against your Bitcoin without selling it. Ledn offers Bitcoin-backed loans built for serious holders, with rates that get lower as your loan size increases. With Ledn's custodied loan product, your Bitcoin is held in custody and not lent out. Ledn has operated through multiple market cycles without a loss of client assets and publishes Proof of Reserves so you can verify what they hold.

Get 0.25% off your first loan at ledn.io/natalie. Terms apply — see the site for details.

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Bitdeer Technologies Group (NASDAQ: BTDR) powers AI and Bitcoin mining infrastructure with 3 GW of secured global energy — and owns the entire stack, from equipment manufacturing to data centers to proprietary orchestration software. Learn more at https://www.bitdeer.com.

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Kalshi is the largest prediction market in the world. Use code HODL and get $25 when you trade $25 http://kalshi.com/r/HODL

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Bitgo is the digital asset infrastructure company trusted by institutions worldwide for regulated, insured custody, trading, settlement, and liquidity. BitGo now offers that same institutional-grade, insured qualified custodian to individuals—completely free! Learn more at https://www.bitgo.com/natalie

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Learn about multisig self-custody without a seed phrase. Download Bitkey Today and use my promo code STORIES to get 10% off the new Bitkey. This episode has been sponsored by Bitkey: https://bitkey.world/STORIES

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Master Bitcoin self-custody and gain peace of mind with 1-on-1 training: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/natalie?utm_source=partner-natalie&utm_medium=podcast

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With BitcoinIRA, you can invest in bitcoin 24/7 inside a tax-advantaged IRA. Choose a Traditional IRA to defer taxes, or a Roth IRA for tax-free withdrawals later. Take control of your future with BitcoinIRA: https://www.bitcoinira.com/natalie

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Natalie's Upcoming Events:

• The Sovereign Summit is coming to Miami in February 2027. Get discounted passes using code HODL: https://thesovereignsummit.com
• The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL

Extra Services to Consider:

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Disclaimer: The News Block and Coin Stories are for educational and entertainment purposes only and do not constitute financial, investment, legal, or tax advice. Natalie Brunell is not a financial advisor. Some content may include sponsorships or paid partnerships, which are disclosed. Always do your own research and consult a licensed professional before making financial decisions. Bitcoin and digital assets are volatile — never invest more than you can afford to lose.

ABOUT COIN STORIES & THE NEWS BLOCK

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This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

Plus, why Strategy is prioritizing share buybacks over higher dividends, how it plans to navigate future volatility, and Michael Saylor's vision of building the JPMorgan of digital capital.

IN THIS EPISODE:

• STRC's selloff: What Strategy learned about leverage and volatility.
• Buybacks vs. dividends: Why Strategy is prioritizing repurchases and building the USD reserve.
• The future of MSTR: Shareholder concerns, stock performance, and Strategy's outlook.
• The next financial system: AI, Bitcoin, Wall Street, and Strategy's long-term vision.

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Borrow against your Bitcoin without selling it. Ledn offers Bitcoin-backed loans built for serious holders, with rates that get lower as your loan size increases. With Ledn's custodied loan product, your Bitcoin is held in custody and not lent out. Ledn has operated through multiple market cycles without a loss of client assets and publishes Proof of Reserves so you can verify what they hold.

Get 0.25% off your first loan at ledn.io/natalie. Terms apply — see the site for details.

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Bitdeer Technologies Group (NASDAQ: BTDR) powers AI and Bitcoin mining infrastructure with 3 GW of secured global energy — and owns the entire stack, from equipment manufacturing to data centers to proprietary orchestration software. Learn more at https://www.bitdeer.com.

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Kalshi is the largest prediction market in the world.Use code HODL and get $25 when you trade $25 http://kalshi.com/r/HODL

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Bitgo is the digital asset infrastructure company trusted by institutions worldwide for regulated, insured custody, trading, settlement, and liquidity. BitGo now offers that same institutional-grade, insured qualified custodian to individuals—completely free! Learn more at https://www.bitgo.com/natalie

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Multisig self-custody without a seed phrase! Download Bitkey Today and use my promo code STORIES to get 10% off the new Bitkey. This episode has been sponsored by Bitkey: https://bitkey.world/STORIES

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Master Bitcoin self-custody and gain peace of mind with 1-on-1 training: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/natalie?utm_source=partner-natalie&utm_medium=podcast

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With BitcoinIRA, you can invest in bitcoin 24/7 inside a tax-advantaged IRA. Choose a Traditional IRA to defer taxes, or a Roth IRA for tax-free withdrawals later. Take control of your future with BitcoinIRA: https://www.bitcoinira.com/natalie

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Natalie's Upcoming Events:

• The Sovereign Summit is coming to Miami in February 2027. Get discounted passes using code HODL: https://thesovereignsummit.com
• The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL

Extra Services to Consider:

• One of the best decisions I made for both my heath and my bank account was joining CrowdHealth years ago. I never spend more than $200 on health coverage through my CrowdHealth plan and all my health events have been crowd-funded. Get started with a discounted plan at my link. : www.joincrowdhealth.com/natalie

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Disclaimer: The News Block and Coin Stories are for educational and entertainment purposes only and do not constitute financial, investment, legal, or tax advice. Natalie Brunell is not a financial advisor. Some content may include sponsorships or paid partnerships, which are disclosed. Always do your own research and consult a licensed professional before making financial decisions. Bitcoin and digital assets are volatile — never invest more than you can afford to lose.

ABOUT COIN STORIES & THE NEWS BLOCK

Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

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DISCLAIMER

This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

• The Fed hiked, and the same house now costs twice as much per month as in 2021
• The CLARITY Act failed in the Senate, is the issue the Trump family's crypto gains?
• The SEC clears the way for tokenized stocks in the U.S.
• Bitcoin was called a dead cat. Then it hit an eight-month high

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Get 0.25% off your first loan at ledn.io/natalie. Terms apply — see the site for details.

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Disclaimer: The News Block and Coin Stories are for educational and entertainment purposes only and do not constitute financial, investment, legal, or tax advice. Natalie Brunell is not a financial advisor. Some content may include sponsorships or paid partnerships, which are disclosed. Always do your own research and consult a licensed professional before making financial decisions. Bitcoin and digital assets are volatile — never invest more than you can afford to lose.

ABOUT COIN STORIES & THE NEWS BLOCK

Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

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He pushed back harder than I expected. His argument is that the old financial system is breaking in front of us, a new one is forming faster than people think, and Bitcoin is the piece of it he's certain survives. We discuss:

• Whether the sudden push for AI regulation was coordinated, and who benefits
• His response to the argument that the data center debt looks like 2008 housing
• Why he says you can't understand where Bitcoin goes next without watching the rest of crypto
• Where he agrees with Michael Saylor, and where he says he sees Bitcoin differently than anyone he knows
• Why worrying about the future is the habit that costs investors the most
• Why he walked away from a top job at Morgan Stanley after 9/11

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Borrow against your Bitcoin without selling it. Ledn offers Bitcoin-backed loans built for serious holders, with rates that get lower as your loan size increases. With Ledn's custodied loan product, your Bitcoin is held in custody and not lent out. Ledn has operated through multiple market cycles without a loss of client assets and publishes Proof of Reserves so you can verify what they hold. Get 0.25% off your first loan at ledn.io/natalie. Terms apply — see the site for details.

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Bitdeer Technologies Group (NASDAQ: BTDR) powers AI and Bitcoin mining infrastructure with 3 GW of secured global energy — and owns the entire stack, from equipment manufacturing to data centers to proprietary orchestration software. Learn more at https://www.bitdeer.com

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Abundant Mines is a fully-managed Bitcoin mining in the U.S. You own the miners. You keep 100% of the Bitcoin. Voted #1 mining company by peers. Get 1 month of free hosting: AbundantMines.com/Natalie

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Bitgo is the digital asset infrastructure company trusted by institutions worldwide for regulated, insured custody, trading, settlement, and liquidity. BitGo now offers that same institutional-grade, insured qualified custodian to individuals—completely free! Learn more at https://www.bitgo.com/natalie

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Natalie's Bitcoin Product Partners:

• Multisig self-custody without a seed phrase! Download Bitkey Today and use my promo code STORIES to get 10% off the new Bitkey. This episode has been sponsored by Bitkey: https://bitkey.world/STORIES
• Master Bitcoin self-custody and gain peace of mind with 1-on-1 training: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/natalie?utm_source=partner-natalie&utm_medium=podcast
• With BitcoinIRA, you can invest in bitcoin 24/7 inside a tax-advantaged IRA. Choose a Traditional IRA to defer taxes, or a Roth IRA for tax-free withdrawals later. Take control of your future with BitcoinIRA: https://www.bitcoinira.com/natalie
• Kalshi is the largest prediction market in the world.Use code HODL and get $25 when you trade $25 http://kalshi.com/r/HODL

Natalie's Upcoming Events:

• The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL

Extra Services to Consider:

• One of the best decisions I made for both my heath and my bank account was joining CrowdHealth years ago. I never spend more than $200 on health coverage through my CrowdHealth plan and all my health events have been crowd-funded. Get started with a discounted plan at my link. : www.joincrowdhealth.com/natalie

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Disclaimer: The News Block and Coin Stories are for educational and entertainment purposes only and do not constitute financial, investment, legal, or tax advice. Natalie Brunell is not a financial advisor. Some content may include sponsorships or paid partnerships, which are disclosed. Always do your own research and consult a licensed professional before making financial decisions. Bitcoin and digital assets are volatile — never invest more than you can afford to lose.

ABOUT COIN STORIES & THE NEWS BLOCK

Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

CONNECT WITH NATALIE

Read Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com/freechapters

Subscribe to the free newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nataliebrunell

Watch on Rumble: https://rumble.com/NatBrunell

Follow Natalie on X: https://www.x.com/natbrunell

Website: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com

PARTNERSHIPS & INQUIRIES

Interested in sponsoring Coin Stories? Contact info@talkingbitcoin.com

DISCLAIMER

This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

Danielle breaks down the hidden contraction underneath official data, including surging delinquencies, shuttering small businesses, and where the economy is struggling. We cover:

• Whether the Fed hikes again before the midterms and EOY
• Small businesses closing, and why homeowners are pulling cash out of their houses
• Why she thinks almost all the growth left in the economy is coming from one place
• The debt nobody in Washington can stop growing, and why it keeps getting rolled over
• What she'd do if she were running the Fed

Follow Danielle DiMartino Booth on X https://x.com/DiMartinoBooth

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Order Natalie's new book "Bitcoin is For Everyone," a simple introduction to Bitcoin and what's broken in our current financial system: https://amzn.to/3WzFzfU

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Borrow against your Bitcoin without selling it. Ledn offers Bitcoin-backed loans built for serious holders, with rates that get lower as your loan size increases. With Ledn's custodied loan product, your Bitcoin is held in custody and not lent out. Ledn has operated through multiple market cycles without a loss of client assets and publishes Proof of Reserves so you can verify what they hold. Get 0.25% off your first loan at ledn.io/natalie. Terms apply — see the site for details.

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Bitdeer Technologies Group (NASDAQ: BTDR) powers AI and Bitcoin mining infrastructure with 3 GW of secured global energy — and owns the entire stack, from equipment manufacturing to data centers to proprietary orchestration software. Learn more at https://www.bitdeer.com.

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Abundant Mines is a fully-managed Bitcoin mining in the U.S. You own the miners. You keep 100% of the Bitcoin. Voted #1 mining company by peers. Get 1 month of free hosting: AbundantMines.com/Natalie

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Bitgo is the digital asset infrastructure company trusted by institutions worldwide for regulated, insured custody, trading, settlement, and liquidity. BitGo now offers that same institutional-grade, insured qualified custodian to individuals—completely free! Learn more at https://www.bitgo.com/natalie

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Natalie's Bitcoin Product Partners:

• Multisig self-custody without a seed phrase! Download Bitkey Today and use my promo code STORIES to get 10% off the new Bitkey. This episode has been sponsored by Bitkey: https://bitkey.world/STORIES
• Master Bitcoin self-custody and gain peace of mind with 1-on-1 training: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/natalie?utm_source=partner-natalie&utm_medium=podcast
• With BitcoinIRA, you can invest in bitcoin 24/7 inside a tax-advantaged IRA. Choose a Traditional IRA to defer taxes, or a Roth IRA for tax-free withdrawals later. Take control of your future with BitcoinIRA: https://www.bitcoinira.com/natalie

Natalie's Upcoming Events:

• The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL

Extra Services to Consider:

• One of the best decisions I made for both my heath and my bank account was joining CrowdHealth years ago. I never spend more than $200 on health coverage through my CrowdHealth plan and all my health events have been crowd-funded. Get started with a discounted plan at my link. : www.joincrowdhealth.com/natalie

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Disclaimer: The News Block and Coin Stories are for educational and entertainment purposes only and do not constitute financial, investment, legal, or tax advice. Natalie Brunell is not a financial advisor. Some content may include sponsorships or paid partnerships, which are disclosed. Always do your own research and consult a licensed professional before making financial decisions. Bitcoin and digital assets are volatile — never invest more than you can afford to lose.

ABOUT COIN STORIES & THE NEWS BLOCK

Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

CONNECT WITH NATALIE

Read Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com/freechapters

Subscribe to the free newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nataliebrunell

Watch on Rumble: https://rumble.com/NatBrunell

Follow Natalie on X: https://www.x.com/natbrunell

Website: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com

PARTNERSHIPS & INQUIRIES

Interested in sponsoring Coin Stories? Contact info@talkingbitcoin.com

DISCLAIMER

This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

Now he joins me to explain what comes next for XXI — and to answer some of the biggest questions surrounding Tether. We discuss:

• How much of XXI Tether actually owns — and what it wants to build next
• Whether Tether's biggest critics are asking the right questions
• Why XXI is trying to become much more than a Bitcoin treasury company
• Whether Elektron will be absorbed into XXI
• What really happened at Ocean during the BIP 110 controversy

Follow Rapha Zagury on X https://x.com/RaphaZagury

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Order Natalie's new book "Bitcoin is For Everyone," a simple introduction to Bitcoin and what's broken in our current financial system: https://amzn.to/3WzFzfU

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Borrow against your Bitcoin without selling it. Ledn offers Bitcoin-backed loans built for serious holders, with rates that get lower as your loan size increases. With Ledn's custodied loan product, your Bitcoin is held in custody and not lent out. Ledn has operated through multiple market cycles without a loss of client assets and publishes Proof of Reserves so you can verify what they hold.

Get 0.25% off your first loan at ledn.io/natalie. Terms apply — see the site for details.

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Bitdeer Technologies Group (NASDAQ: BTDR) powers AI and Bitcoin mining infrastructure with 3 GW of secured global energy — and owns the entire stack, from equipment manufacturing to data centers to proprietary orchestration software. Learn more at https://www.bitdeer.com

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Abundant Mines is a fully-managed Bitcoin mining in the U.S. You own the miners. You keep 100% of the Bitcoin. Voted #1 mining company by peers. Get 1 month of free hosting: AbundantMines.com/Natalie

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Bitgo is the digital asset infrastructure company trusted by institutions worldwide for regulated, insured custody, trading, settlement, and liquidity. BitGo now offers that same institutional-grade, insured qualified custodian to individuals—completely free! Learn more at https://www.bitgo.com/natalie

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Natalie's Bitcoin Product Partners:

• Multisig self-custody without a seed phrase! Download Bitkey Today and use my promo code STORIES to get 10% off the new Bitkey. This episode has been sponsored by Bitkey: https://bitkey.world/STORIES
• Master Bitcoin self-custody and gain peace of mind with 1-on-1 training: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/natalie?utm_source=partner-natalie&utm_medium=podcast
• With BitcoinIRA, you can invest in bitcoin 24/7 inside a tax-advantaged IRA. Choose a Traditional IRA to defer taxes, or a Roth IRA for tax-free withdrawals later. Take control of your future with BitcoinIRA: https://www.bitcoinira.com/natalie
• Kalshi is the largest prediction market in the world.Use code HODL and get $25 when you trade $25 http://kalshi.com/r/HODL

Natalie's Upcoming Events:

• The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL

Extra Services to Consider:

• One of the best decisions I made for both my heath and my bank account was joining CrowdHealth years ago. I never spend more than $200 on health coverage through my CrowdHealth plan and all my health events have been crowd-funded. Get started with a discounted plan at my link. : www.joincrowdhealth.com/natalie

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Disclaimer: The News Block and Coin Stories are for educational and entertainment purposes only and do not constitute financial, investment, legal, or tax advice. Natalie Brunell is not a financial advisor. Some content may include sponsorships or paid partnerships, which are disclosed. Always do your own research and consult a licensed professional before making financial decisions. Bitcoin and digital assets are volatile — never invest more than you can afford to lose.

ABOUT COIN STORIES & THE NEWS BLOCK

Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

CONNECT WITH NATALIE

Read Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com/freechapters

Subscribe to the free newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nataliebrunell

Watch on Rumble: https://rumble.com/NatBrunell

Follow Natalie on X: https://www.x.com/natbrunell

Website: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com

PARTNERSHIPS & INQUIRIES

Interested in sponsoring Coin Stories? Contact info@talkingbitcoin.com

DISCLAIMER

This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

• The CEOs of multiple leading AI companies say the industry needs to slow down. We break down the major AI news story that broke over the weekend.
• Why a Fed rate hike now looks all but certain, and the tiny inflation number that sealed it
• Trump's $5,000 promise to every adult American. Who would actually pay for it?
• Metaplanet gives up $220 million to calm a shareholder revolt. Is it enough?
• Blockstream to the Liquid hackers: "It is theft." The 600 bitcoin standoff

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Borrow against your Bitcoin without selling it. Ledn offers Bitcoin-backed loans built for serious holders, with rates that get lower as your loan size increases. With Ledn's custodied loan product, your Bitcoin is held in custody and not lent out. Ledn has operated through multiple market cycles without a loss of client assets and publishes Proof of Reserves so you can verify what they hold. Get 0.25% off your first loan at ledn.io/natalie. Terms apply — see the site for details.

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Order my approachable introduction to Bitcoin book "Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1804091138?linkCode=ssc&tag=onamzameri07b-20&creativeASIN=1804091138&asc_item-id=amzn1.ideas.3Q6CKLCXBKGSV&ref_=aip_sf_list_spv_ons_mixed_d_asin

Limited signed copies are available for purchase at shop.talkingbitcoin.com powered by Speed Wallet.

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Read every story in the News Block with visuals and charts! Join our mailing list and subscribe to our free Bitcoin newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

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Upcoming Events:

• The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL

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Disclaimer: The News Block and Coin Stories are for educational and entertainment purposes only and do not constitute financial, investment, legal, or tax advice. Natalie Brunell is not a financial advisor. Some content may include sponsorships or paid partnerships, which are disclosed. Always do your own research and consult a licensed professional before making financial decisions. Bitcoin and digital assets are volatile — never invest more than you can afford to lose.

ABOUT COIN STORIES & THE NEWS BLOCK

Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

CONNECT WITH NATALIE

Read Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com/freechapters

Subscribe to the free newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nataliebrunell

Watch on Rumble: https://rumble.com/NatBrunell

Follow Natalie on X: https://www.x.com/natbrunell

Website: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com

PARTNERSHIPS & INQUIRIES

Interested in sponsoring Coin Stories? Contact info@talkingbitcoin.com

DISCLAIMER

This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

• The purchase that got him banned from Coinbase
• Sending money the same way you send a text
• What he saw people in China doing years before Apple Pay
• The strange reason tariffs made steel companies billions
• His line about Bitcoin's price that he says everyone has backwards

Follow Vik Sharma on X https://x.com/vikrantnyc

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Borrow against your Bitcoin without selling it. Ledn offers Bitcoin-backed loans built for serious holders, with rates that get lower as your loan size increases. With Ledn's custodied loan product, your Bitcoin is held in custody and not lent out. Ledn has operated through multiple market cycles without a loss of client assets and publishes Proof of Reserves so you can verify what they hold.

Get 0.25% off your first loan at ledn.io/natalie. Terms apply — see the site for details.

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Bitdeer Technologies Group (NASDAQ: BTDR) powers AI and Bitcoin mining infrastructure with 3 GW of secured global energy — and owns the entire stack, from equipment manufacturing to data centers to proprietary orchestration software. Learn more at https://www.bitdeer.com.

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Abundant Mines is a fully-managed Bitcoin mining in the U.S. You own the miners. You keep 100% of the Bitcoin. Voted #1 mining company by peers. Get 1 month of free hosting: AbundantMines.com/Natalie

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BitGo is the digital asset infrastructure company trusted by institutions worldwide for regulated, insured custody, trading, settlement, and liquidity. BitGo now offers that same institutional-grade, insured qualified custody to individuals—completely free! Learn more at BitGo.com/natalie

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Natalie's Bitcoin Product Partners:

• Multisig self-custody without a seed phrase! Download Bitkey Today and use my promo code STORIES to get 10% off the new Bitkey. This episode has been sponsored by Bitkey: https://bitkey.world/STORIES
• Master Bitcoin self-custody and gain peace of mind with 1-on-1 training: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/natalie?utm_source=partner-natalie&utm_medium=podcast
• With BitcoinIRA, you can invest in bitcoin 24/7 inside a tax-advantaged IRA. Choose a Traditional IRA to defer taxes, or a Roth IRA for tax-free withdrawals later. Take control of your future with BitcoinIRA: https://www.bitcoinira.com/natalie

Natalie's Upcoming Events:

• The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL

Extra Services to Consider:

• One of the best decisions I made for both my heath and my bank account was joining CrowdHealth years ago. I never spend more than $200 on health coverage through my CrowdHealth plan and all my health events have been crowd-funded. Get started with a discounted plan at my link. : www.joincrowdhealth.com/natalie

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Disclaimer: The News Block and Coin Stories are for educational and entertainment purposes only and do not constitute financial, investment, legal, or tax advice. Natalie Brunell is not a financial advisor. Some content may include sponsorships or paid partnerships, which are disclosed. Always do your own research and consult a licensed professional before making financial decisions. Bitcoin and digital assets are volatile — never invest more than you can afford to lose.

ABOUT COIN STORIES & THE NEWS BLOCK

Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

CONNECT WITH NATALIE

Read Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com/freechapters

Subscribe to the free newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nataliebrunell

Watch on Rumble: https://rumble.com/NatBrunell

Follow Natalie on X: https://www.x.com/natbrunell

Website: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com

PARTNERSHIPS & INQUIRIES

Interested in sponsoring Coin Stories? Contact info@talkingbitcoin.com

DISCLAIMER

This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

Mike Belshe, co-founder and CEO of BitGo, joins the show to announce that anyone can open an account. No minimums. No account fees. The same product institutions have been using for years. Get a free BitGo account: https://www.bitgo.com/natalie

He also explains why he left 100 Bitcoin in a wallet and told the internet to come take it. We discuss:

• What you pay to buy Bitcoin, and what Wall Street pays for the same thing
• The 100 Bitcoin bounty nobody has claimed
• What quantum computing can and can't do to your coins
• The change BitGo shipped this week that shows if you're exposed
• The two kinds of banks, and why one of them is safer

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Order Natalie's new book "Bitcoin is For Everyone," a simple introduction to Bitcoin and what's broken in our current financial system: https://amzn.to/3WzFzfU

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Borrow against your Bitcoin without selling it. Ledn offers Bitcoin-backed loans built for serious holders, with rates that get lower as your loan size increases. With Ledn's custodied loan product, your Bitcoin is held in custody and not lent out. Ledn has operated through multiple market cycles without a loss of client assets and publishes Proof of Reserves so you can verify what they hold. Get 0.25% off your first loan at ledn.io/natalie. Terms apply — see the site for details.

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Bitdeer Technologies Group (NASDAQ: BTDR) powers AI and Bitcoin mining infrastructure with 3 GW of secured global energy — and owns the entire stack, from equipment manufacturing to data centers to proprietary orchestration software. Learn more at https://www.bitdeer.com.

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Abundant Mines is a fully-managed Bitcoin mining in the U.S. You own the miners. You keep 100% of the Bitcoin. Voted #1 mining company by peers. Get 1 month of free hosting: AbundantMines.com/Natalie

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BitGo is the digital asset infrastructure company trusted by institutions worldwide for regulated, insured custody, trading, settlement, and liquidity. BitGo now offers that same institutional-grade, insured qualified custodian to individuals— completely free! Learn more at BitGo.com/natalie NYSE: $BTGO

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Natalie's Bitcoin Product Partners:

• Multisig self-custody without a seed phrase! Download Bitkey Today and use my promo code STORIES to get 10% off the new Bitkey. This episode has been sponsored by Bitkey: https://bitkey.world/STORIES
• Master Bitcoin self-custody and gain peace of mind with 1-on-1 training: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/natalie?utm_source=partner-natalie&utm_medium=podcast
• With BitcoinIRA, you can invest in bitcoin 24/7 inside a tax-advantaged IRA. Choose a Traditional IRA to defer taxes, or a Roth IRA for tax-free withdrawals later. Take control of your future with BitcoinIRA: https://www.bitcoinira.com/natalie

Natalie's Upcoming Events:

• The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL

Extra Services to Consider:

• One of the best decisions I made for both my heath and my bank account was joining CrowdHealth years ago. I never spend more than $200 on health coverage through my CrowdHealth plan and all my health events have been crowd-funded. Get started with a discounted plan at my link. : www.joincrowdhealth.com/natalie

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Disclaimer: The News Block and Coin Stories are for educational and entertainment purposes only and do not constitute financial, investment, legal, or tax advice. Natalie Brunell is not a financial advisor. Some content may include sponsorships or paid partnerships, which are disclosed. Always do your own research and consult a licensed professional before making financial decisions. Bitcoin and digital assets are volatile — never invest more than you can afford to lose.

ABOUT COIN STORIES & THE NEWS BLOCK

Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

CONNECT WITH NATALIE

Read Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com/freechapters

Subscribe to the free newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nataliebrunell

Watch on Rumble: https://rumble.com/NatBrunell

Follow Natalie on X: https://www.x.com/natbrunell

Website: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com

PARTNERSHIPS & INQUIRIES

Interested in sponsoring Coin Stories? Contact info@talkingbitcoin.com

DISCLAIMER

This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

• The jobs report comes in 3x stronger than expected
• Why this week's inflation numbers could decide the Fed's next move
• The old stock option formula that has some Metaplanet shareholders in revolt
• Oil: the inflation problem the Fed can't fix by raising rates
• Nearly 4,000 Bitcoin pulled from Blockstream's Liquid Network -- hackers returned 85% Monday

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Borrow against your Bitcoin without selling it. Ledn offers Bitcoin-backed loans built for serious holders, with rates that get lower as your loan size increases. With Ledn's custodied loan product, your Bitcoin is held in custody and not lent out. Ledn has operated through multiple market cycles without a loss of client assets and publishes Proof of Reserves so you can verify what they hold. Get 0.25% off your first loan at ledn.io/natalie. Terms apply — see the site for details.

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Order my approachable introduction to Bitcoin book "Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1804091138?linkCode=ssc&tag=onamzameri07b-20&creativeASIN=1804091138&asc_item-id=amzn1.ideas.3Q6CKLCXBKGSV&ref_=aip_sf_list_spv_ons_mixed_d_asin

Limited signed copies are available for purchase at shop.talkingbitcoin.com powered by Speed Wallet.

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Read every story in the News Block with visuals and charts! Join our mailing list and subscribe to our free Bitcoin newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

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Upcoming Events:

• The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL

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Disclaimer: The News Block and Coin Stories are for educational and entertainment purposes only and do not constitute financial, investment, legal, or tax advice. Natalie Brunell is not a financial advisor. Some content may include sponsorships or paid partnerships, which are disclosed. Always do your own research and consult a licensed professional before making financial decisions. Bitcoin and digital assets are volatile — never invest more than you can afford to lose.

ABOUT COIN STORIES & THE NEWS BLOCK

Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

CONNECT WITH NATALIE

Read Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com/freechapters

Subscribe to the free newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nataliebrunell

Watch on Rumble: https://rumble.com/NatBrunell

Follow Natalie on X: https://www.x.com/natbrunell

Website: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com

PARTNERSHIPS & INQUIRIES

Interested in sponsoring Coin Stories? Contact info@talkingbitcoin.com

DISCLAIMER

This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

• Why Kevin Warsh just put a September rate hike back in play
• Treasury bond buybacks and the growing $40 trillion debt problem
• Scott Bessent's viral clash with Elizabeth Warren over the yen
• Why Wall Street banks are suddenly racing into stablecoins
• Bitcoin's biggest September catalysts, from CPI to the CLARITY Act

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Borrow against your Bitcoin without selling it. Ledn offers Bitcoin-backed loans built for serious holders, with rates that get lower as your loan size increases. With Ledn's custodied loan product, your Bitcoin is held in custody and not lent out. Ledn has operated through multiple market cycles without a loss of client assets and publishes Proof of Reserves so you can verify what they hold. Get 0.25% off your first loan at ledn.io/natalie. Terms apply — see the site for details.

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Order my approachable introduction to Bitcoin book "Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1804091138?linkCode=ssc&tag=onamzameri07b-20&creativeASIN=1804091138&asc_item-id=amzn1.ideas.3Q6CKLCXBKGSV&ref_=aip_sf_list_spv_ons_mixed_d_asin

Limited signed copies are available for purchase at shop.talkingbitcoin.com powered by Speed Wallet.

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Read every story in the News Block with visuals and charts! Join our mailing list and subscribe to our free Bitcoin newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

----

Upcoming Events:

• The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL

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Disclaimer: The News Block and Coin Stories are for educational and entertainment purposes only and do not constitute financial, investment, legal, or tax advice. Natalie Brunell is not a financial advisor. Some content may include sponsorships or paid partnerships, which are disclosed. Always do your own research and consult a licensed professional before making financial decisions. Bitcoin and digital assets are volatile — never invest more than you can afford to lose.

ABOUT COIN STORIES & THE NEWS BLOCK

Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

CONNECT WITH NATALIE

Read Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com/freechapters

Subscribe to the free newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nataliebrunell

Watch on Rumble: https://rumble.com/NatBrunell

Follow Natalie on X: https://www.x.com/natbrunell

Website: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com

PARTNERSHIPS & INQUIRIES

Interested in sponsoring Coin Stories? Contact info@talkingbitcoin.com

DISCLAIMER

This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

Then we go inside Bitkey itself: how it works, why it doesn't use a traditional seed phrase, and how its 3-key security design is meant to make self-custody safer and easier for everyday Bitcoin owners.

We also discuss:

• What the Coldcard hack can teach Bitcoin owners about keeping their savings safe
• How Bitkey protects your Bitcoin without relying on a seed phrase
• Why Bitkey uses three keys — and what happens if you lose your phone or the device (or both)
• How inheritance works and how your Bitcoin can eventually be passed on to your family

If you own Bitcoin and have ever wondered how to keep it safe without making self-custody overly complicated, this episode is for you. If you own Bitcoin and are thinking about securing it yourself — this is an important conversation. Get 10% off using code STORIES at Bitkey.world/STORIES (I do not earn commission from this discount).

Follow Clay Garrett on X https://x.com/clay_garrett

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Order Natalie's new book "Bitcoin is For Everyone," a simple introduction to Bitcoin and what's broken in our current financial system: https://amzn.to/3WzFzfU

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Borrow against your Bitcoin without selling it. Ledn offers Bitcoin-backed loans built for serious holders, with rates that get lower as your loan size increases. With Ledn's custodied loan product, your Bitcoin is held in custody and not lent out. Ledn has operated through multiple market cycles without a loss of client assets and publishes Proof of Reserves so you can verify what they hold. Get 0.25% off your first loan at ledn.io/natalie. Terms apply — see the site for details.

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Bitdeer Technologies Group (NASDAQ: BTDR) powers AI and Bitcoin mining infrastructure with 3 GW of secured global energy — and owns the entire stack, from equipment manufacturing to data centers to proprietary orchestration software. Learn more at https://www.bitdeer.com

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Abundant Mines is a fully-managed Bitcoin mining in the U.S. You own the miners. You keep 100% of the Bitcoin. Voted #1 mining company by peers. Get 1 month of free hosting: AbundantMines.com/Natalie

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Natalie's Bitcoin Product Partners:

• Speed is my go-to Bitcoin Lightning wallet! Send, receive, or swap stablecoins and digital gold into Bitcoin in one app. Run a business? Speed powers Bitcoin payments for Steak 'n Shake, and it can do the same for you. Download at https://speed.app/natalie and use code COINSTORIES10 for 5,000 free sats after your first transaction.
• Download Bitkey Today and use my promo code STORIES to get 10% off the new Bitkey. This episode has been sponsored by Bitkey: https://bitkey.world/STORIES
• Master Bitcoin self-custody and gain peace of mind with 1-on-1 training: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/natalie?utm_source=partner-natalie&utm_medium=podcast
• With BitcoinIRA, you can invest in bitcoin 24/7 inside a tax-advantaged IRA. Choose a Traditional IRA to defer taxes, or a Roth IRA for tax-free withdrawals later. Take control of your future with BitcoinIRA: https://www.bitcoinira.com/natalie

Natalie's Upcoming Events:

• The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL

Extra Services to Consider:

• One of the best decisions I made for both my heath and my bank account was joining CrowdHealth years ago. I never spend more than $200 on health coverage through my CrowdHealth plan and all my health events have been crowd-funded. Get started with a discounted plan at my link. : www.joincrowdhealth.com/natalie

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Disclaimer: The News Block and Coin Stories are for educational and entertainment purposes only and do not constitute financial, investment, legal, or tax advice. Natalie Brunell is not a financial advisor. Some content may include sponsorships or paid partnerships, which are disclosed. Always do your own research and consult a licensed professional before making financial decisions. Bitcoin and digital assets are volatile — never invest more than you can afford to lose.

ABOUT COIN STORIES & THE NEWS BLOCK

Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

CONNECT WITH NATALIE

Read Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com/freechapters

Subscribe to the free newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nataliebrunell

Watch on Rumble: https://rumble.com/NatBrunell

Follow Natalie on X: https://www.x.com/natbrunell

Website: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com

PARTNERSHIPS & INQUIRIES

Interested in sponsoring Coin Stories? Contact info@talkingbitcoin.com

DISCLAIMER

This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

Nearly $3 trillion is expected to be spent on data centers between 2025 and 2028, and roughly half of it is borrowed -- financed on the assumption that demand keeps exploding.

In this explainer episode:

• What's actually inside a data center
• Why they cost billions to build
• Who's lending the money, and what they were promised in return
• Why this boom has pulled capital away from Bitcoin
• The one thing that has to keep happening, or the whole thing breaks

I also share why this matters for markets, your retirement account, and ultimately Bitcoin.

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The Natalie Brunell Show is powered by Ledn: Borrow against your Bitcoin without selling it. Ledn offers Bitcoin-backed loans built for serious holders, with rates that get lower as your loan size increases. With Ledn's custodied loan product, your Bitcoin is held in custody and not lent out. Ledn has operated through multiple market cycles without a loss of client assets and publishes Proof of Reserves so you can verify what they hold. Get 0.25% off your first bitcoin-backed loan → https://www.ledn.io/natalie

(Offer subject to terms and eligibility. Digital asset lending involves risk, including loss of collateral.)

Bitdeer Technologies Group (NASDAQ: BTDR) powers AI and Bitcoin mining infrastructure with 3 GW of secured global energy — and owns the entire stack, from equipment manufacturing to data centers to proprietary orchestration software. Learn more at https://www.bitdeer.com

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Order my approachable introduction to Bitcoin book "Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1804091138?linkCode=ssc&tag=onamzameri07b-20&creativeASIN=1804091138&asc_item-id=amzn1.ideas.3Q6CKLCXBKGSV&ref_=aip_sf_list_spv_ons_mixed_d_asin

Limited signed copies are available for purchase at shop.talkingbitcoin.com powered by Speed Wallet.

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Read every story in the News Block with visuals and charts! Join our mailing list and subscribe to our free Bitcoin newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

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Upcoming Events:

• The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL

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Disclaimer: The News Block and Coin Stories are for educational and entertainment purposes only and do not constitute financial, investment, legal, or tax advice. Natalie Brunell is not a financial advisor. Some content may include sponsorships or paid partnerships, which are disclosed. Always do your own research and consult a licensed professional before making financial decisions. Bitcoin and digital assets are volatile — never invest more than you can afford to lose.

ABOUT COIN STORIES & THE NEWS BLOCK

Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

CONNECT WITH NATALIE

Read Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com/freechapters

Subscribe to the free newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nataliebrunell

Watch on Rumble: https://rumble.com/NatBrunell

Follow Natalie on X: https://www.x.com/natbrunell

Website: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com

PARTNERSHIPS & INQUIRIES

Interested in sponsoring Coin Stories? Contact info@talkingbitcoin.com

DISCLAIMER

This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

• Why Bitcoin suddenly surged more than 20% after months of silence
• The U.S. Treasury doubled its bond buybacks - what that means, explained simply
• Bessent swore he'd never do what Yellen did. Then he did it twice as big
• The legend who taught Bessent everything just publicly questioned him in a WSJ Op-Ed

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Borrow against your Bitcoin without selling it. Ledn offers Bitcoin-backed loans built for serious holders, with rates that get lower as your loan size increases. With Ledn's custodied loan product, your Bitcoin is held in custody and not lent out. Ledn has operated through multiple market cycles without a loss of client assets and publishes Proof of Reserves so you can verify what they hold. Get 0.25% off your first loan at ledn.io/natalie. Terms apply — see the site for details.

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Order my approachable introduction to Bitcoin book "Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1804091138?linkCode=ssc&tag=onamzameri07b-20&creativeASIN=1804091138&asc_item-id=amzn1.ideas.3Q6CKLCXBKGSV&ref_=aip_sf_list_spv_ons_mixed_d_asin

Limited signed copies are available for purchase at shop.talkingbitcoin.com powered by Speed Wallet.

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Read every story in the News Block with visuals and charts! Join our mailing list and subscribe to our free Bitcoin newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

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Upcoming Events:

• The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL

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Disclaimer: The News Block and Coin Stories are for educational and entertainment purposes only and do not constitute financial, investment, legal, or tax advice. Natalie Brunell is not a financial advisor. Some content may include sponsorships or paid partnerships, which are disclosed. Always do your own research and consult a licensed professional before making financial decisions. Bitcoin and digital assets are volatile — never invest more than you can afford to lose.

ABOUT COIN STORIES & THE NEWS BLOCK

Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

CONNECT WITH NATALIE

Read Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com/freechapters

Subscribe to the free newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nataliebrunell

Watch on Rumble: https://rumble.com/NatBrunell

Follow Natalie on X: https://www.x.com/natbrunell

Website: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com

PARTNERSHIPS & INQUIRIES

Interested in sponsoring Coin Stories? Contact info@talkingbitcoin.com

DISCLAIMER

This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

In this deeply personal episode of Coin Stories, Natalie Brunell sits down with the author and entrepreneur, one of the most affected victims of the Coldcard exploit — money he had set aside for his children.

We discuss:

• The moment he found out and what he did right away
• Why three separate backups all failed for the exact same reason
• What the detectives told him about getting his Bitcoin back
• Why he expects no class action lawsuit is coming
• What he'd say to the founder of the company that lost his savings
• Why he refuses to be angry about any of it

Follow Jonathan Goodman on X: https://x.com/itscoachgoodman

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Order Natalie's new book "Bitcoin is For Everyone," a simple introduction to Bitcoin and what's broken in our current financial system: https://amzn.to/3WzFzfU

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Borrow against your Bitcoin without selling it. Ledn offers Bitcoin-backed loans built for serious holders, with rates that get lower as your loan size increases. With Ledn's custodied loan product, your Bitcoin is held in custody and not lent out. Ledn has operated through multiple market cycles without a loss of client assets and publishes Proof of Reserves so you can verify what they hold. Get 0.25% off your first loan at ledn.io/natalie. Terms apply — see the site for details.

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Bitdeer Technologies Group (NASDAQ: BTDR) powers AI and Bitcoin mining infrastructure with 3 GW of secured global energy — and owns the entire stack, from equipment manufacturing to data centers to proprietary orchestration software. Learn more at https://www.bitdeer.com

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Abundant Mines is a fully-managed Bitcoin mining in the U.S. You own the miners. You keep 100% of the Bitcoin. Voted #1 mining company by peers. Get 1 month of free hosting: AbundantMines.com/Natalie

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Natalie's Bitcoin Product Partners:

• Speed is my go-to Bitcoin Lightning wallet! Send, receive, or swap stablecoins and digital gold into Bitcoin in one app. Run a business? Speed powers Bitcoin payments for Steak 'n Shake, and it can do the same for you. Download at https://speed.app/natalie and use code COINSTORIES10 for 5,000 free sats after your first transaction.
• Download Bitkey Today and use my promo code STORIES to get 10% off the new Bitkey. This episode has been sponsored by Bitkey: https://bitkey.world/STORIES
• Master Bitcoin self-custody and gain peace of mind with 1-on-1 training: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/natalie?utm_source=partner-natalie&utm_medium=podcast
• With BitcoinIRA, you can invest in bitcoin 24/7 inside a tax-advantaged IRA. Choose a Traditional IRA to defer taxes, or a Roth IRA for tax-free withdrawals later. Take control of your future with BitcoinIRA: https://www.bitcoinira.com/natalie

Natalie's Upcoming Events:

• The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL

Extra Services to Consider:

• One of the best decisions I made for both my heath and my bank account was joining CrowdHealth years ago. I never spend more than $200 on health coverage through my CrowdHealth plan and all my health events have been crowd-funded. Get started with a discounted plan at my link. : www.joincrowdhealth.com/natalie

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Disclaimer: The News Block and Coin Stories are for educational and entertainment purposes only and do not constitute financial, investment, legal, or tax advice. Natalie Brunell is not a financial advisor. Some content may include sponsorships or paid partnerships, which are disclosed. Always do your own research and consult a licensed professional before making financial decisions. Bitcoin and digital assets are volatile — never invest more than you can afford to lose.

ABOUT COIN STORIES & THE NEWS BLOCK

Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

CONNECT WITH NATALIE

Read Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com/freechapters

Subscribe to the free newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nataliebrunell

Watch on Rumble: https://rumble.com/NatBrunell

Follow Natalie on X: https://www.x.com/natbrunell

Website: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com

PARTNERSHIPS & INQUIRIES

Interested in sponsoring Coin Stories? Contact info@talkingbitcoin.com

DISCLAIMER

This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

In this episode:

• Is Bitcoin still Bitcoin if Wall Street owns a growing share of it?
• Why most people never move their Bitcoin off an exchange
• How scammers actually steal Bitcoin, and the simple habits that stop them
• Whether quantum computing is a real threat to your Bitcoin, and how River is preparing
• Why Alex has no plans to take River public, even as competitors go the other way
• What Alex tells people when everyone around them has turned bearish

Follow Alex Leishman on X: https://x.com/Leishman and sign up for River at https://www.river.com/natalie

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Order Natalie's new book "Bitcoin is For Everyone," a simple introduction to Bitcoin and what's broken in our current financial system: https://amzn.to/3WzFzfU

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Borrow against your Bitcoin without selling it. Ledn offers Bitcoin-backed loans built for serious holders, with rates that get lower as your loan size increases. With Ledn's custodied loan product, your Bitcoin is held in custody and not lent out. Ledn has operated through multiple market cycles without a loss of client assets and publishes Proof of Reserves so you can verify what they hold. Get 0.25% off your first loan at ledn.io/natalie. Terms apply — see the site for details.

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Bitdeer Technologies Group (NASDAQ: BTDR) powers AI and Bitcoin mining infrastructure with 3 GW of secured global energy — and owns the entire stack, from equipment manufacturing to data centers to proprietary orchestration software. Learn more at https://www.bitdeer.com.

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Abundant Mines is a fully-managed Bitcoin mining in the U.S. You own the miners. You keep 100% of the Bitcoin. Voted #1 mining company by peers. Get 1 month of free hosting: AbundantMines.com/Natalie

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Natalie's Bitcoin Product Partners & Sponsors:

• Speed is my go-to Bitcoin Lightning wallet! Send, receive, or swap stablecoins and digital gold into Bitcoin in one app. Run a business? Speed powers Bitcoin payments for Steak 'n Shake, and it can do the same for you. Download at https://speed.app/natalie and use code COINSTORIES10 for 5,000 free sats after your first transaction.
• Download Bitkey Today and use my promo code STORIES to get 10% off the new Bitkey. This episode has been sponsored by Bitkey: https://bitkey.world/STORIES
• Master Bitcoin self-custody and gain peace of mind with 1-on-1 training: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/natalie?utm_source=partner-natalie&utm_medium=podcast
• With BitcoinIRA, you can invest in bitcoin 24/7 inside a tax-advantaged IRA. Choose a Traditional IRA to defer taxes, or a Roth IRA for tax-free withdrawals later. Take control of your future with BitcoinIRA: https://www.bitcoinira.com/natalie
• Kalshi is the largest prediction market in the world. Use code HODL and get $25 when you trade $25: http://kalshi.com/r/HODL

Natalie's Upcoming Events:

• The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL

Extra Services to Consider:

• One of the best decisions I made for both my heath and my bank account was joining CrowdHealth years ago. I never spend more than $200 on health coverage through my CrowdHealth plan and all my health events have been crowd-funded. Get started with a discounted plan at my link. : www.joincrowdhealth.com/natalie

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Disclaimer: The News Block and Coin Stories are for educational and entertainment purposes only and do not constitute financial, investment, legal, or tax advice. Natalie Brunell is not a financial advisor. Some content may include sponsorships or paid partnerships, which are disclosed. Always do your own research and consult a licensed professional before making financial decisions. Bitcoin and digital assets are volatile — never invest more than you can afford to lose.

ABOUT COIN STORIES & THE NEWS BLOCK

Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

CONNECT WITH NATALIE

Read Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com/freechapters

Subscribe to the free newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nataliebrunell

Watch on Rumble: https://rumble.com/NatBrunell

Follow Natalie on X: https://www.x.com/natbrunell

Website: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com

PARTNERSHIPS & INQUIRIES

Interested in sponsoring Coin Stories? Contact info@talkingbitcoin.com

DISCLAIMER

This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

• Bitcoin jumps to nearly $70K after a surprise move by the U.S. Treasury
• Trump hosts crypto CEOs at the White House as a make-or-break vote looms
• Japan's biggest Bitcoin company is coming to America
• Tether finally got audited after a decade of doubters. Here's what they found
• Hackers leaked the names and home addresses of thousands of Bitcoin holders
• Bitcoin volatility has almost never been this quiet. Fidelity says that won't last.

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Borrow against your Bitcoin without selling it. Ledn offers Bitcoin-backed loans built for serious holders, with rates that get lower as your loan size increases. With Ledn's custodied loan product, your Bitcoin is held in custody and not lent out. Ledn has operated through multiple market cycles without a loss of client assets and publishes Proof of Reserves so you can verify what they hold. Get 0.25% off your first loan at ledn.io/natalie. Terms apply — see the site for details.

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Order my approachable introduction to Bitcoin book "Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1804091138?linkCode=ssc&tag=onamzameri07b-20&creativeASIN=1804091138&asc_item-id=amzn1.ideas.3Q6CKLCXBKGSV&ref_=aip_sf_list_spv_ons_mixed_d_asin

Limited signed copies are available for purchase at shop.talkingbitcoin.com powered by Speed Wallet.

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Read every story in the News Block with visuals and charts! Join our mailing list and subscribe to our free Bitcoin newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

----

Upcoming Events:

• The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL

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Disclaimer: The News Block and Coin Stories are for educational and entertainment purposes only and do not constitute financial, investment, legal, or tax advice. Natalie Brunell is not a financial advisor. Some content may include sponsorships or paid partnerships, which are disclosed. Always do your own research and consult a licensed professional before making financial decisions. Bitcoin and digital assets are volatile — never invest more than you can afford to lose.

ABOUT COIN STORIES & THE NEWS BLOCK

Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

CONNECT WITH NATALIE

Read Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com/freechapters

Subscribe to the free newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nataliebrunell

Watch on Rumble: https://rumble.com/NatBrunell

Follow Natalie on X: https://www.x.com/natbrunell

Website: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com

PARTNERSHIPS & INQUIRIES

Interested in sponsoring Coin Stories? Contact info@talkingbitcoin.com

DISCLAIMER

This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

One investor said he put $73,000 into MSTR for each of his three children, only to see each investment fall to roughly $20,000. He asked Saylor and Le directly: have common shareholders become Strategy's lowest priority?

In this episode:

• Michael and Phong address dilution fears around $MSTR common stock
• Are $MSTR buybacks are on the table, and under what conditions?
• What they say they learned from the $STRC drawdown
• Whether the $1 million and $10 million per Bitcoin scenarios still hold
• Why Strategy wants to become the "J.P. Morgan of digital assets" and what that really means

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Order Natalie's new book "Bitcoin is For Everyone," a simple introduction to Bitcoin and what's broken in our current financial system: https://amzn.to/3WzFzfU

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Borrow against your Bitcoin without selling it. Ledn offers Bitcoin-backed loans built for serious holders, with rates that get lower as your loan size increases. With Ledn's custodied loan product, your Bitcoin is held in custody and not lent out. Ledn has operated through multiple market cycles without a loss of client assets and publishes Proof of Reserves so you can verify what they hold. Get 0.25% off your first loan at ledn.io/natalie. Terms apply — see the site for details.

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Bitdeer Technologies Group (NASDAQ: BTDR) powers AI and Bitcoin mining infrastructure with 3 GW of secured global energy — and owns the entire stack, from equipment manufacturing to data centers to proprietary orchestration software. Learn more at https://www.bitdeer.com.

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Kalshi is the largest prediction market in the world. Get $25 when you trade $25. http://kalshi.com/r/HODL

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Natalie's Bitcoin Product Partners:

• Speed is my go-to Bitcoin Lightning wallet! Send, receive, or swap stablecoins and digital gold into Bitcoin in one app. Run a business? Speed powers Bitcoin payments for Steak 'n Shake, and it can do the same for you. Download at https://speed.app/natalie and use code COINSTORIES10 for 5,000 free sats after your first transaction.
• Download Bitkey Today and use my promo code STORIES to get 10% off the new Bitkey. This episode has been sponsored by Bitkey: https://bitkey.world/STORIES
• Master Bitcoin self-custody and gain peace of mind with 1-on-1 training: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/natalie?utm_source=partner-natalie&utm_medium=podcast
• With BitcoinIRA, you can invest in bitcoin 24/7 inside a tax-advantaged IRA. Choose a Traditional IRA to defer taxes, or a Roth IRA for tax-free withdrawals later. Take control of your future with BitcoinIRA: https://www.bitcoinira.com/natalie

Natalie's Upcoming Events:

• The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL

Extra Services to Consider:

• One of the best decisions I made for both my heath and my bank account was joining CrowdHealth years ago. I never spend more than $200 on health coverage through my CrowdHealth plan and all my health events have been crowd-funded. Get started with a discounted plan at my link. : www.joincrowdhealth.com/natalie

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Disclaimer: The News Block and Coin Stories are for educational and entertainment purposes only and do not constitute financial, investment, legal, or tax advice. Natalie Brunell is not a financial advisor. Some content may include sponsorships or paid partnerships, which are disclosed. Always do your own research and consult a licensed professional before making financial decisions. Bitcoin and digital assets are volatile — never invest more than you can afford to lose.

ABOUT COIN STORIES & THE NEWS BLOCK

Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

CONNECT WITH NATALIE

Read Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com/freechapters

Subscribe to the free newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nataliebrunell

Watch on Rumble: https://rumble.com/NatBrunell

Follow Natalie on X: https://www.x.com/natbrunell

Website: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com

PARTNERSHIPS & INQUIRIES

Interested in sponsoring Coin Stories? Contact info@talkingbitcoin.com

DISCLAIMER

This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

Mark Moss returns to Coin Stories to explain why he believes you can, what most people misunderstand about volatility, and why becoming a forced seller can be more dangerous than a falling market. He also opens up about what happened inside Satsuma, the Bitcoin treasury company that ultimately unraveled.

In this episode:

• How to retire off Bitcoin without selling it
• What really happened inside Satsuma
• Whether the Coldcard exploit changes self-custody
• Why Mark doesn't expect another 2008-style crash soon
• What could finally bring money back into Bitcoin

Follow Mark at https://x.com/1MarkMoss

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Order Natalie's new book "Bitcoin is For Everyone," a simple introduction to Bitcoin and what's broken in our current financial system: https://amzn.to/3WzFzfU

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Borrow against your Bitcoin without selling it. Ledn offers Bitcoin-backed loans built for serious holders, with rates that get lower as your loan size increases. With Ledn's custodied loan product, your Bitcoin is held in custody and not lent out. Ledn has operated through multiple market cycles without a loss of client assets and publishes Proof of Reserves so you can verify what they hold. Get 0.25% off your first loan at ledn.io/natalie. Terms apply — see the site for details.

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Bitdeer Technologies Group (NASDAQ: BTDR) powers AI and Bitcoin mining infrastructure with 3 GW of secured global energy — and owns the entire stack, from equipment manufacturing to data centers to proprietary orchestration software. Learn more at https://www.bitdeer.com.

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Abundant Mines is a fully-managed Bitcoin mining in the U.S. You own the miners. You keep 100% of the Bitcoin. Voted #1 mining company by peers. Get 1 month of free hosting: AbundantMines.com/Natalie

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Natalie's Bitcoin Product Partners:

• Speed is my go-to Bitcoin Lightning wallet! Send, receive, or swap stablecoins and digital gold into Bitcoin in one app. Run a business? Speed powers Bitcoin payments for Steak 'n Shake, and it can do the same for you. Download at https://speed.app/natalie and use code COINSTORIES10 for 5,000 free sats after your first transaction.
• Download Bitkey Today and use my promo code STORIES to get 10% off the new Bitkey. This episode has been sponsored by Bitkey: https://bitkey.world/STORIES
• Master Bitcoin self-custody and gain peace of mind with 1-on-1 training: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/natalie?utm_source=partner-natalie&utm_medium=podcast
• With BitcoinIRA, you can invest in bitcoin 24/7 inside a tax-advantaged IRA. Choose a Traditional IRA to defer taxes, or a Roth IRA for tax-free withdrawals later. Take control of your future with BitcoinIRA: https://www.bitcoinira.com/natalie

Natalie's Upcoming Events:

• The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL

Extra Services to Consider:

• One of the best decisions I made for both my heath and my bank account was joining CrowdHealth years ago. I never spend more than $200 on health coverage through my CrowdHealth plan and all my health events have been crowd-funded. Get started with a discounted plan at my link. : www.joincrowdhealth.com/natalie

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Disclaimer: The News Block and Coin Stories are for educational and entertainment purposes only and do not constitute financial, investment, legal, or tax advice. Natalie Brunell is not a financial advisor. Some content may include sponsorships or paid partnerships, which are disclosed. Always do your own research and consult a licensed professional before making financial decisions. Bitcoin and digital assets are volatile — never invest more than you can afford to lose.

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Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

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This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

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Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

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This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

• Bitcoin's Red Team audits 390 projects in record time, and what they found will surprise you
• Rob Hamilton says OpenAI blocked the Red Team's defensive work, so where is he turning instead?
• BIP-110's activation deadline arrived. Here's how it played out.
• The CLARITY Act missed its August window. What happens now?
• Putin signs Russia's first crypto law, and it reveals who the law is really for
• Why Bessent's yen rescue was never really about Japan

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Borrow against your Bitcoin without selling it. Ledn offers Bitcoin-backed loans built for serious holders, with rates that get lower as your loan size increases. With Ledn's custodied loan product, your Bitcoin is held in custody and not lent out. Ledn has operated through multiple market cycles without a loss of client assets and publishes Proof of Reserves so you can verify what they hold. Get 0.25% off your first loan at ledn.io/natalie. Terms apply — see the site for details.

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Disclaimer: The News Block and Coin Stories are for educational and entertainment purposes only and do not constitute financial, investment, legal, or tax advice. Nothing discussed in this episode is a recommendation to buy, sell, or hold Bitcoin or any other asset. Natalie Brunell is not a financial advisor. Some content may include sponsorships or paid partnerships, which are disclosed. Always do your own research and consult a licensed professional before making financial decisions. Bitcoin and digital assets are volatile — never invest more than you can afford to lose.

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Matt Kratter of Bitcoin University, one of the proposal's most vocal supporters, joins me to break down Bitcoin's civil war. Matt makes his case, I push back where I have questions, and we talk about why this debate has gotten as heated as it has.

In this episode:

• What BIP 110 would actually do, and why supporters say it would stop spam on the Bitcoin network
• What a chain split would look like, and Matt's honest answer on whether he expects one
• The arguments against BIP 110, including whether the data simply moves elsewhere
• Why the debate turned so personal, and what Matt says to people it's driven away

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Order Natalie's new book "Bitcoin is For Everyone," a simple introduction to Bitcoin and what's broken in our current financial system: https://amzn.to/3WzFzfU

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This episode is brought to you by our title sponsor, Ledn. Ledn has operated through multiple market cycles without a loss of client assets, and publishes Proof of Reserves so you can verify what they hold. Ledn is the home of Bitcoin-backed loans for serious holders. Rates scale with loan size — the larger the loan, the lower the rate — and with their custodied loan product, your Bitcoin is held in custody and not lent out.

Get 0.25% off your first loan at ledn.io/natalie. Terms apply — see the site for details: https://www.Ledn.io/natalie

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Abundant Mines is a fully-managed Bitcoin mining in the U.S. You own the miners. You keep 100% of the Bitcoin. Voted #1 mining company by peers. Get 1 month of free hosting: AbundantMines.com/Natalie

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Natalie's Bitcoin Product Partners:

• Speed is my go-to Bitcoin Lightning wallet! Send, receive, or swap stablecoins and digital gold into Bitcoin in one app. Run a business? Speed powers Bitcoin payments for Steak 'n Shake, and it can do the same for you. Download at https://speed.app/natalie and use code COINSTORIES10 for 5,000 free sats after your first transaction.
• Download Bitkey Today and use my promo code STORIES to get 10% off the new Bitkey. This episode has been sponsored by Bitkey: https://bitkey.world/STORIES
• Master Bitcoin self-custody and gain peace of mind with 1-on-1 training: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/natalie?utm_source=partner-natalie&utm_medium=podcast
• With BitcoinIRA, you can invest in bitcoin 24/7 inside a tax-advantaged IRA. Choose a Traditional IRA to defer taxes, or a Roth IRA for tax-free withdrawals later. Take control of your future with BitcoinIRA: https://www.bitcoinira.com/natalie

Natalie's Upcoming Events:

• The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL

Extra Services to Consider:

• One of the best decisions I made for both my heath and my bank account was joining CrowdHealth years ago. I never spend more than $200 on health coverage through my CrowdHealth plan and all my health events have been crowd-funded. Get started with a discounted plan at my link: www.joincrowdhealth.com/natalie

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This podcast is for educational purposes and should not be construed as official investment advice. Ads in this episode are baked-in and may reference promotions or offers that are no longer available at the time of listening.

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Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

CONNECT WITH NATALIE

Read Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com/freechapters

Subscribe to the free newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

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This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

In this episode:

• Why treasury company stocks fell so much further than Bitcoin did
• His response to the criticism Parker Lewis brought to this show about perpetual preferred equitites
• What Metaplanet is building in Japan, where $7 trillion sits in cash earning nothing
• Whether he thinks Bitcoin has bottomed, from someone who swore off price calls

Follow Dylan LeClair at https://x.com/DylanLeClair

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Order Natalie's new book "Bitcoin is For Everyone," a simple introduction to Bitcoin and what's broken in our current financial system: https://amzn.to/3WzFzfU

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Thank you to our Title Sponsor, Ledn: Borrow against your Bitcoin with Ledn, which has a perfect track record protecting over $11 billion in client value through every market cycle since 2018. And Tether Gold is now live on Ledn, giving you two of the most verifiably scarce, non-sovereign assets ever created, held side by side. Hard assets. Real flexibility. One platform. Get .25% off your first bitcoin-backed loan: https://www.Ledn.io/natalie

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Bitdeer Technologies Group (NASDAQ: BTDR) powers AI and Bitcoin mining infrastructure with 3 GW of secured global energy — and owns the entire stack, from equipment manufacturing to data centers to proprietary orchestration software. Learn more at https://www.bitdeer.com.

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Abundant Mines is a fully-managed Bitcoin mining in the U.S. You own the miners. You keep 100% of the Bitcoin. Voted #1 mining company by peers. Get 1 month of free hosting: AbundantMines.com/Natalie

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Natalie's Bitcoin Product Partners:

• Speed is my go-to Bitcoin Lightning wallet! Send, receive, or swap stablecoins and digital gold into Bitcoin in one app. Run a business? Speed powers Bitcoin payments for Steak 'n Shake, and it can do the same for you. Download at https://speed.app/natalie and use code COINSTORIES10 for 5,000 free sats after your first transaction.
• Download Bitkey Today and use my promo code STORIES to get 10% off the new Bitkey. This episode has been sponsored by Bitkey: https://bitkey.world/STORIES
• Master Bitcoin self-custody and gain peace of mind with 1-on-1 training: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/natalie?utm_source=partner-natalie&utm_medium=podcast
• With BitcoinIRA, you can invest in bitcoin 24/7 inside a tax-advantaged IRA. Choose a Traditional IRA to defer taxes, or a Roth IRA for tax-free withdrawals later. Take control of your future with BitcoinIRA: https://www.bitcoinira.com/natalie
• Kalshi is the largest prediction market in the world. Use code HODL to win up to $500 when you trade $25 http://kalshi.com/r/HODL

Natalie's Upcoming Events:

• The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL

Extra Services to Consider:

• Protect yourself from SIM Swaps that can hack your accounts and steal your Bitcoin. Join America's most secure mobile service, trusted by CEOs, VIPs and top corporations: https://www.efani.com/natalie
• Ditch your fiat health insurance like I did four years ago! I pay less than $200 and my health care is covered. Join me at CrowdHealth: www.joincrowdhealth.com/natalie

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This podcast is for educational purposes and should not be construed as official investment advice. Ads in this episode are baked-in and may reference promotions or offers that are no longer available at the time of listening.

ABOUT COIN STORIES & THE NEWS BLOCK

Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

CONNECT WITH NATALIE

Read Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com/freechapters

Subscribe to the free newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

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DISCLAIMER

This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

• The COLDCARD hack explained — the first time a major self-custody device has been compromised at scale, and what you need to know
• Why this hack is different from Mt. Gox, Bitfinex, and FTX and why it matters more for everyday Bitcoiners
• Strategy confirms it will no longer put 100% of capital raises into Bitcoin — here's what that actually means
• Three Fed members voted to raise rates, the most divided the FOMC has been in a decade over rate hikes
• A personal note on transparency, accountability, and my emergency episode on the COLDCARD hack (released on Friday, July 31)

Coinkite advisory: https://blog.coinkite.com/coldcard-mk3-seed-generation-warning/

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Ledn has a perfect track record protecting over $11 billion in client value through every market cycle since 2018. And Tether Gold is now live on Ledn, giving you two of the most verifiably scarce, non-sovereign assets ever created, held side by side. Hard assets. Real flexibility. One platform. Get .25% off your first bitcoin-backed loan: https://www.Ledn.io/natalie

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Order Natalie's new book "Bitcoin is For Everyone," a simple introduction to Bitcoin and what's broken in our current financial system: https://amzn.to/3WzFzfU

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Upcoming Events:

• The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL

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This podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be construed as official investment advice. Always do your own research.

ABOUT COIN STORIES & THE NEWS BLOCK

Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

CONNECT WITH NATALIE

Read Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com/freechapters

Subscribe to the free newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

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DISCLAIMER

This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

I wanted to hear him out, but I also pushed back — because I think there's a version of these products that brings in people who wouldn't otherwise be here. We didn't land in the same place, which is what makes it worth your time.

In this episode:

• Why Parker says the simplest way to save in Bitcoin is to own Bitcoin
• His answer to something I hear constantly: that Bitcoin is too volatile for most people
• His take on Digital Credit and whether it can work as an on-ramp for people who aren't ready to hold Bitcoin directly
• What he'd hold instead: a little Bitcoin, and the rest in...cash??
• What the price of a ribeye steak over the last few years says about what's happening to your money

Follow Parker Lewis on X https://x.com/parkeralewis

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Order Natalie's new book "Bitcoin is For Everyone," a simple introduction to Bitcoin and what's broken in our current financial system: https://amzn.to/3WzFzfU

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Thank you to our title sponsor LEDN.

Borrow against your Bitcoin with Ledn, which has a perfect track record protecting over $11 billion in client value through every market cycle since 2018. And Tether Gold is now live on Ledn, giving you two of the most verifiably scarce, non-sovereign assets ever created, held side by side. Hard assets. Real flexibility. One platform. Get .25% off your first bitcoin-backed loan: https://www.Ledn.io/natalie

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Bitdeer Technologies Group (NASDAQ: BTDR) powers AI and Bitcoin mining infrastructure with 3 GW of secured global energy — and owns the entire stack, from equipment manufacturing to data centers to proprietary orchestration software. Learn more at https://www.bitdeer.com.

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Abundant Mines is a fully-managed Bitcoin mining in the U.S. You own the miners. You keep 100% of the Bitcoin. Voted #1 mining company by peers. Get 1 month of free hosting: AbundantMines.com/Natalie

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Natalie's Bitcoin Product Partners:

• Speed is my go-to Bitcoin Lightning wallet! Send, receive, or swap stablecoins and digital gold into Bitcoin in one app. Run a business? Speed powers Bitcoin payments for Steak 'n Shake, and it can do the same for you. Download at https://speed.app/natalie and use code COINSTORIES10 for 5,000 free sats after your first transaction.
• Download Bitkey Today and use my promo code STORIES to get 10% off the new Bitkey. This episode has been sponsored by Bitkey: https://bitkey.world/STORIES
• Master Bitcoin self-custody and gain peace of mind with 1-on-1 training: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/natalie?utm_source=partner-natalie&utm_medium=podcast
• With BitcoinIRA, you can invest in bitcoin 24/7 inside a tax-advantaged IRA. Choose a Traditional IRA to defer taxes, or a Roth IRA for tax-free withdrawals later. Take control of your future with BitcoinIRA: https://www.bitcoinira.com/natalie

Natalie's Upcoming Events:

• The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL

Extra Services to Consider:

• Protect yourself from SIM Swaps that can hack your accounts and steal your Bitcoin. Join America's most secure mobile service, trusted by CEOs, VIPs and top corporations: https://www.efani.com/natalie
• Ditch your fiat health insurance like I did four years ago! I pay less than $200 and my health care is covered. Join me at CrowdHealth: www.joincrowdhealth.com/natalie

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This podcast is for educational purposes and should not be construed as official investment advice. Ads in this episode are baked-in and may reference promotions or offers that are no longer available at the time of listening.

ABOUT COIN STORIES & THE NEWS BLOCK

Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

CONNECT WITH NATALIE

Read Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com/freechapters

Subscribe to the free newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nataliebrunell

Watch on Rumble: https://rumble.com/NatBrunell

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Website: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com

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Interested in sponsoring Coin Stories? Contact info@talkingbitcoin.com

DISCLAIMER

This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

We cover:

• Which ColdCard models and firmware versions are affected
• Why the seed phrases became guessable in the first place, explained with no jargon
• Why moving your seed onto another manufacturer's device does not remove the risk
• What to do ASAP, step by step, including the test transaction people skip when they're panicked

Follow Rob Hamilton at https://x.com/Rob1Ham - his DMs are open.

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Order Natalie's new book "Bitcoin is For Everyone," a simple introduction to Bitcoin and what's broken in our current financial system: https://amzn.to/3WzFzfU

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Ledn is the global leader in Bitcoin-backed loans, issuing over $10 billion in loans since 2018, and they were the first to offer proof of reserves. With Ledn, you get custody loans, no credit checks, no monthly payments, and more. Get .25% off your first loan, learn more at https://www.Ledn.io/natalie

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Speed is my go-to Bitcoin Lightning wallet! Send, receive, or swap stablecoins and digital gold into Bitcoin in one app. Run a business? Speed powers Bitcoin payments for Steak 'n Shake, and it can do the same for you. Download at https://speed.app/natalie and use code COINSTORIES10 for 5,000 free sats after your first transaction.

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Abundant Mines is a fully-managed Bitcoin mining in the U.S. You own the miners. You keep 100% of the Bitcoin. Voted #1 mining company by peers. Get 1 month of free hosting: AbundantMines.com/Natalie

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Natalie's Bitcoin Product Partners:

• Download Bitkey Today and use my promo code STORIES to get 10% off the new Bitkey: https://bitkey.world/STORIES
• Master your Bitcoin self-custody with 1-on-1 help and gain peace of mind with the help of The Bitcoin Way: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/natalie
• With BitcoinIRA, you can invest in bitcoin 24/7 inside a tax-advantaged IRA. Choose a Traditional IRA to defer taxes, or a Roth IRA for tax-free withdrawals later. Take control of your future with BitcoinIRA: https://www.bitcoinira.com/natalie

Natalie's Upcoming Events:

• The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL

Extra Services to Consider:

• Protect yourself from SIM Swaps that can hack your accounts and steal your Bitcoin. Join America's most secure mobile service, trusted by CEOs, VIPs and top corporations: https://www.efani.com/natalie
• Ditch your fiat health insurance like I did four years ago! Join me at CrowdHealth: www.joincrowdhealth.com/natalie

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This podcast is for educational purposes and should not be construed as official investment advice. Ads in this episode are baked-in and may reference promotions or offers that are no longer available at the time of listening.

ABOUT COIN STORIES & THE NEWS BLOCK

Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

CONNECT WITH NATALIE

Read Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com/freechapters

Subscribe to the free newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nataliebrunell

Watch on Rumble: https://rumble.com/NatBrunell

Follow Natalie on X: https://www.x.com/natbrunell

Website: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com

PARTNERSHIPS & INQUIRIES

Interested in sponsoring Coin Stories? Contact info@talkingbitcoin.com

DISCLAIMER

This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

• Why he walked away from Twenty One Capital, and the disagreement that got him there
• His message to the people who invested because they believed in him
• Why he calls it a failure, and the guilt he says comes with it
• The blank check he was handed, and why he couldn't take it
• What he tells anyone who bought Bitcoin in 2021 and feels burned by the round-trip price action
• The one thing he says would send Bitcoin sharply higher

Follow Jack Mallers on X https://x.com/jackmallers

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Order Natalie's new book "Bitcoin is For Everyone," a simple introduction to Bitcoin and what's broken in our current financial system: https://amzn.to/3WzFzfU

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Borrow against your Bitcoin with Ledn, the global leader in Bitcoin-backed loans, issuing over $10 billion in loans since 2018, and they were the first to offer proof of reserves. With Ledn, you get custody loans, no credit checks, no monthly payments, and more. Get .25% off your first loan, learn more at https://www.Ledn.io/natalie

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Speed is my go-to Bitcoin Lightning wallet! Send, receive, or swap stablecoins and digital gold into Bitcoin in one app. Run a business? Speed powers Bitcoin payments for Steak 'n Shake, and it can do the same for you. Download at https://speed.app/natalie and use code COINSTORIES10 for 5,000 free sats after your first transaction.

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Abundant Mines is a fully-managed Bitcoin mining in the U.S. You own the miners. You keep 100% of the Bitcoin. Voted #1 mining company by peers. Get 1 month of free hosting: AbundantMines.com/Natalie

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Natalie's Bitcoin Product Partners:

• Download Bitkey Today and use my promo code STORIES to get 10% off the new Bitkey. This episode has been sponsored by Bitkey: https://bitkey.world/STORIES
• Master your Bitcoin self-custody with 1-on-1 help and gain peace of mind with the help of The Bitcoin Way: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/natalie
• With BitcoinIRA, you can invest in bitcoin 24/7 inside a tax-advantaged IRA. Choose a Traditional IRA to defer taxes, or a Roth IRA for tax-free withdrawals later. Take control of your future with BitcoinIRA: https://www.bitcoinira.com/natalie

Natalie's Upcoming Events:

• The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL

Extra Services to Consider:

• Protect yourself from SIM Swaps that can hack your accounts and steal your Bitcoin. Join America's most secure mobile service, trusted by CEOs, VIPs and top corporations: https://www.efani.com/natalie
• Ditch your fiat health insurance like I did four years ago! Join me at CrowdHealth: www.joincrowdhealth.com/natalie

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This podcast is for educational purposes and should not be construed as official investment advice. Ads in this episode are baked-in and may reference promotions or offers that are no longer available at the time of listening.

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Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

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This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

Nico Lechuga is a Bitcoin entrepreneur, a founding partner of Bitcoin venture capital firm Ego Death Capital, and co-founder of the newly launched holding company Orange Juice. He joins Coin Stories to explain a new model for acquiring profitable businesses, preserving what makes them valuable, and using their cash flow to build a Bitcoin treasury.

In this episode:

• Why the private equity model can create destructive incentives for otherwise healthy businesses
• How Orange Juice hopes to offer owners an alternative when they are ready to step back or sell
• Why profitable "boring businesses" may be among the most overlooked assets in America
• How Bitcoin could become part of a long-term strategy for preserving and compounding business value
• What separates a real business opportunity from an idea that simply sounds exciting

Follow Nico on X at https://x.com/nico_lechuga

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Speed is my go-to Bitcoin Lightning wallet! Send, receive, or swap stablecoins and digital gold into Bitcoin in one app. Run a business? Speed powers Bitcoin payments for Steak 'n Shake, and it can do the same for you. Download at https://speed.app/natalie and use code COINSTORIES10 for 5,000 free sats after your first transaction.

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Ledn is the global leader in Bitcoin-backed loans, issuing over $10 billion in loans since 2018, and they were the first to offer proof of reserves. With Ledn, you get custody loans, no credit checks, no monthly payments, and more. Get .25% off your first loan, learn more at https://www.Ledn.io/natalie

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Abundant Mines is a fully-managed Bitcoin mining in the U.S. You own the miners. You keep 100% of the Bitcoin. Voted #1 mining company by peers. Get 1 month of free hosting: AbundantMines.com/Natalie

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Natalie's Bitcoin Product Partners:

• Download Bitkey Today and use my promo code STORIES to get 10% off the new Bitkey. This episode has been sponsored by Bitkey: https://bitkey.world/STORIES
• Master your Bitcoin self-custody with 1-on-1 help and gain peace of mind with the help of The Bitcoin Way: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/natalie
• With BitcoinIRA, you can invest in bitcoin 24/7 inside a tax-advantaged IRA. Choose a Traditional IRA to defer taxes, or a Roth IRA for tax-free withdrawals later. Take control of your future with BitcoinIRA: https://www.bitcoinira.com/natalie

Natalie's Upcoming Events:

• The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL

Extra Services to Consider:

• Protect yourself from SIM Swaps that can hack your accounts and steal your Bitcoin. Join America's most secure mobile service, trusted by CEOs, VIPs and top corporations: https://www.efani.com/natalie
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#money #Bitcoin #investing

ABOUT COIN STORIES & THE NEWS BLOCK

Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

CONNECT WITH NATALIE

Read Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com/freechapters

Subscribe to the free newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nataliebrunell

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Follow Natalie on X: https://www.x.com/natbrunell

Website: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com

PARTNERSHIPS & INQUIRIES

Interested in sponsoring Coin Stories? Contact info@talkingbitcoin.com

DISCLAIMER

This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

• What the wave of Bitcoin company closures and bankruptcies tells us about where we are in the bear market
• 84% of Bitcoin is now held by long-term holders — the highest level ever recorded
• AI agents just paid each other in Bitcoin over Lightning for the first time
• BlackRock, Fidelity, and seven other institutions pledge $15M to protect Bitcoin from quantum threats — and critics are calling it "Big Bitcoin"
• Strategy repurchases $25M in STRC at $86.52 and boosts its cash reserve to $3.75 billion

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The News Block is powered exclusively by Ledn – the global leader in Bitcoin-backed loans, issuing over $11 billion in loans since 2018, and they were the first to offer proof of reserves. With Ledn, you get custody loans, no credit checks, no monthly payments, and more. My followers get .25% off their first loan. Learn more at www.ledn.io/natalie

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References mentioned in the episode:

• BitMEX Ends Operations After 11 Years
• BitMart to Wind Down Its Exchange
• Satsuma Shareholders Approve Bitcoin Treasury Liquidation
• Smarter Web Company Sells Bitcoin to Repay Debt
• Poolin Files for Bankruptcy
• Poolin Files Chapter 11 and Sets $52 Million Floor Bid
• Bitcoin Standard Treasury Company Scraps Original SPAC Terms
• Jack Mallers Steps Down as Twenty One Capital CEO
• MARA Sells $1.5 Billion of Bitcoin Amid AI Shift
• Bitdeer Empties Its Bitcoin Treasury as Miners Pivot to AI
• Natalie Brunell Interviews MARA CEO Fred Thiel
• 84% of Bitcoin Is Held by Long-Term Holders
• Bitcoin Conviction Is at an All-Time High
• Lightning Labs Launches Wavelength
• Jensen Huang Explains Why Open AI Models Matter
• Mark Zuckerberg on Open Source and Preventing Centralization
• Elon Musk Says X's Code Will Be Open Source and Audited
• Jack Dorsey Announces Buzz
• Michael Levin Demonstrates Buzz and Wavelength Working Together
• Satoshi Nakamoto on the Root Problem With Conventional Currency
• Mike Schmidt Explains the Bitcoin Security Consortium
• Brian Armstrong on Preparing Bitcoin for Quantum Computing
• Official Bitcoin Security Consortium Announcement
• BlackRock, Coinbase and Strategy Join $15 Million Security Consortium
• Nine Firms Launch the Bitcoin Security Consortium
• Galaxy Launches the Bitcoin Quantum Readiness Initiative
• Strategy Overhauls Its Bitcoin Capital-Markets Metrics
• Strategy Announces Its New Bitcoin Capital-Markets Metrics

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ABOUT COIN STORIES & THE NEWS BLOCK

Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

CONNECT WITH NATALIE

Read Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com/freechapters

Subscribe to the free newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nataliebrunell

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Follow Natalie on X: https://www.x.com/natbrunell

Website: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com

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Interested in sponsoring Coin Stories? Contact info@talkingbitcoin.com

DISCLAIMER

This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

Fred runs MARA (formerly Marathon Digital Holdings), one of the biggest public Bitcoin miners in the world. We get into why so many miners are pivoting to AI, what it means for Bitcoin, and his honest, big-picture read on where Bitcoin fits as an asset — including why he says power, not chips, has become the most valuable resource in tech, and why that puts some miners in a surprisingly strong position.

We discuss:

• Why Bitcoin miners are pivoting to AI — and what it means for the network
• Why Fred has put Bitcoin "in a different box"
• The story behind MARA selling 20,000 Bitcoin
• Where he sees Bitcoin's price versus its long-term value
• His candid take on whether Bitcoin ever becomes money
• The quantum computing threat to Bitcoin wallets

Follow Fred Thiel on X: https://x.com/fgthiel

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Order Natalie's new book "Bitcoin is For Everyone," a simple introduction to Bitcoin and what's broken in our current financial system: https://amzn.to/3WzFzfU

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Speed is my go-to Bitcoin Lightning wallet! Send, receive, or swap stablecoins and digital gold into Bitcoin in one app. Run a business? Speed powers Bitcoin payments for Steak 'n Shake, and it can do the same for you. Download at https://speed.app/natalie and use code COINSTORIES10 for 5,000 free sats after your first transaction.

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Ledn is the global leader in Bitcoin-backed loans, issuing over $10 billion in loans since 2018, and they were the first to offer proof of reserves. With Ledn, you get custody loans, no credit checks, no monthly payments, and more. Get .25% off your first loan, learn more at https://www.Ledn.io/natalie

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Abundant Mines is a fully-managed Bitcoin mining in the U.S. You own the miners. You keep 100% of the Bitcoin. Voted #1 mining company by peers. Get 1 month of free hosting: AbundantMines.com/Natalie

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Natalie's Bitcoin Product Partners:

• Download Bitkey Today and use my promo code STORIES to get 10% off the new Bitkey. This episode has been sponsored by Bitkey: https://bitkey.world/STORIES
• Master your Bitcoin self-custody with 1-on-1 help and gain peace of mind with the help of The Bitcoin Way: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/natalie
• With BitcoinIRA, you can invest in bitcoin 24/7 inside a tax-advantaged IRA. Choose a Traditional IRA to defer taxes, or a Roth IRA for tax-free withdrawals later. Take control of your future with BitcoinIRA: https://www.bitcoinira.com/natalie

Natalie's Upcoming Events:

• The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL

Extra Services to Consider:

• Protect yourself from SIM Swaps that can hack your accounts and steal your Bitcoin. Join America's most secure mobile service, trusted by CEOs, VIPs and top corporations: https://www.efani.com/natalie
• Ditch your fiat health insurance like I did four years ago! Join me at CrowdHealth: www.joincrowdhealth.com/natalie

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This podcast is for educational purposes and should not be construed as official investment advice. Ads in this episode are baked-in and may reference promotions or offers that are no longer available at the time of listening.

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#money #Bitcoin #investing

ABOUT COIN STORIES & THE NEWS BLOCK

Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

CONNECT WITH NATALIE

Read Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com/freechapters

Subscribe to the free newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nataliebrunell

Watch on Rumble: https://rumble.com/NatBrunell

Follow Natalie on X: https://www.x.com/natbrunell

Website: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com

PARTNERSHIPS & INQUIRIES

Interested in sponsoring Coin Stories? Contact info@talkingbitcoin.com

DISCLAIMER

This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

• The CLARITY Act faces its make-or-break moment, but odds of passage have collapsed to 32%
• Saylor publishes 110 reasons why BIP-110 is a bad idea for Bitcoin
• Lyn Alden says the proposal won't actually stop spam — and there are bigger threats to worry about
• Jeff Booth and Lyn Alden launch Orange Juice, a $40M Bitcoin treasury company backed by Ricardo Salinas
• Tether freezes $131M in stablecoins tied to Iran's central bank — a reminder of why Bitcoin is different

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Ledn has a perfect track record protecting over $11 billion in client value through every market cycle since 2018. And Tether Gold is now live on Ledn, giving you two of the most verifiably scarce, non-sovereign assets ever created, held side by side. Hard assets. Real flexibility. One platform. Get .25% off your first bitcoin-backed loan: https://www.Ledn.io/natalie

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Order Natalie's new book "Bitcoin is For Everyone," a simple introduction to Bitcoin and what's broken in our current financial system: https://amzn.to/3WzFzfU

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Upcoming Events:

• The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL

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#money #Bitcoin #investing

ABOUT COIN STORIES & THE NEWS BLOCK

Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

CONNECT WITH NATALIE

Read Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com/freechapters

Subscribe to the free newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nataliebrunell

Watch on Rumble: https://rumble.com/NatBrunell

Follow Natalie on X: https://www.x.com/natbrunell

Website: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com

PARTNERSHIPS & INQUIRIES

Interested in sponsoring Coin Stories? Contact info@talkingbitcoin.com

DISCLAIMER

This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

David lays out the melt-up he's been calling for, the global bust he thinks follows it, and the staggering amount of money he believes central banks will have to print to dig us out. He also shares his gold and silver targets, and gives his honest (and bearish) read on Bitcoin.

We discuss:

• His targets: S&P: 10,000, Nasdaq: 36,000, Dow: 70,000, Russell: 4,000 — and why he just raised them
• Why he sees an 80% bear market coming, not a normal recession
• The $20 trillion the Fed may be forced to print
• Why 25% inflation could hit by the early 2030s
• Gold to $7,000, silver to $200 — then far higher next cycle
• His bearish Bitcoin call — and what would change his mind
• The one signal he watches to know the top is in

Whether you agree with David or not, few people lay out a case this clearly. Follow David Hunter on X: https://x.com/DaveHcontrarian

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Order my new book "Bitcoin is For Everyone," a simple introduction to Bitcoin and what's broken in our current financial system: https://amzn.to/3WzFzfU

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Speed is my go-to Bitcoin Lightning wallet! Send, receive, or swap stablecoins and digital gold into Bitcoin in one app. Run a business? Speed powers Bitcoin payments for Steak 'n Shake, and it can do the same for you. Download at https://speed.app/natalie and use code COINSTORIES10 for 5,000 free sats after your first transaction.

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Ledn is the global leader in Bitcoin-backed loans, issuing over $10 billion in loans since 2018, and they were the first to offer proof of reserves. With Ledn, you get custody loans, no credit checks, no monthly payments, and more. Get .25% off your first loan, learn more at https://www.Ledn.io/natalie

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Abundant Mines is a fully-managed Bitcoin mining in the U.S. You own the miners. You keep 100% of the Bitcoin. Voted #1 mining company by peers. Get 1 month of free hosting: AbundantMines.com/Natalie

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Natalie's Bitcoin Product Partners:

• Download Bitkey Today and use my promo code STORIES to get 10% off the new Bitkey. This episode has been sponsored by Bitkey: https://bitkey.world/STORIES
• Master your Bitcoin self-custody with 1-on-1 help and gain peace of mind with the help of The Bitcoin Way: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/natalie
• With BitcoinIRA, you can invest in bitcoin 24/7 inside a tax-advantaged IRA. Choose a Traditional IRA to defer taxes, or a Roth IRA for tax-free withdrawals later. Take control of your future with BitcoinIRA: https://www.bitcoinira.com/natalie

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Natalie's Upcoming Events:

• The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL

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Extra Services to Consider:

• Protect yourself from SIM Swaps that can hack your accounts and steal your Bitcoin. Join America's most secure mobile service, trusted by CEOs, VIPs and top corporations: https://www.efani.com/natalie
• Ditch your fiat health insurance like I did four years ago! Join me at CrowdHealth: www.joincrowdhealth.com/natalie

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This podcast is for educational purposes and should not be construed as official investment advice. Ads in this episode are baked-in and may reference promotions or offers that are no longer available at the time of listening.

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VALUE FOR VALUE — SUPPORT NATALIE'S SHOWS

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#money #Bitcoin #investing

ABOUT COIN STORIES & THE NEWS BLOCK

Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

CONNECT WITH NATALIE

Read Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com/freechapters

Subscribe to the free newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nataliebrunell

Watch on Rumble: https://rumble.com/NatBrunell

Follow Natalie on X: https://www.x.com/natbrunell

Website: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com

PARTNERSHIPS & INQUIRIES

Interested in sponsoring Coin Stories? Contact info@talkingbitcoin.com

DISCLAIMER

This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

After onboarding more than 100,000 Europeans to Bitcoin, Julian has a rare, ground-level view of who's actually buying — and it's not who you'd expect. He shares what his data reveals about everyday people turning to Bitcoin, why European savers feel squeezed, why retail interest has gone quiet, and where he thinks the price goes from here.

We discuss:

• The surprising kind of person quietly buying the most Bitcoin in Europe
• The one thing that always brings retail buyers rushing back
• Why Julian thinks the worst is behind us in this bear market— and how high he sees Bitcoin going next
• The mindset that keeps people "too late" to Bitcoin, over and over
• Julian's plan to turn a Bitcoin app into a billion-dollar public company

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Order Natalie's new book "Bitcoin is For Everyone," a simple introduction to Bitcoin and what's broken in our current financial system: https://amzn.to/3WzFzfU

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Speed is my go-to Bitcoin Lightning wallet! Send, receive, or swap stablecoins and digital gold into Bitcoin in one app. Run a business? Speed powers Bitcoin payments for Steak 'n Shake, and it can do the same for you. Download at https://speed.app/natalie and use code COINSTORIES10 for 5,000 free sats after your first transaction.

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Ledn is the global leader in Bitcoin-backed loans, issuing over $10 billion in loans since 2018, and they were the first to offer proof of reserves. With Ledn, you get custody loans, no credit checks, no monthly payments, and more. Get .25% off your first loan, learn more at https://www.Ledn.io/natalie

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Abundant Mines is a fully-managed Bitcoin mining in the U.S. You own the miners. You keep 100% of the Bitcoin. Voted #1 mining company by peers. Get 1 month of free hosting: AbundantMines.com/Natalie

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Natalie's Bitcoin Product Partners:

• Download Bitkey Today and use my promo code STORIES to get 10% off the new Bitkey. This episode has been sponsored by Bitkey: https://bitkey.world/STORIES
• Master your Bitcoin self-custody with 1-on-1 help and gain peace of mind with the help of The Bitcoin Way: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/natalie
• With BitcoinIRA, you can invest in bitcoin 24/7 inside a tax-advantaged IRA. Choose a Traditional IRA to defer taxes, or a Roth IRA for tax-free withdrawals later. Take control of your future with BitcoinIRA: https://www.bitcoinira.com/natalie

Natalie's Upcoming Events:

• The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL

Extra Services to Consider:

• Protect yourself from SIM Swaps that can hack your accounts and steal your Bitcoin. Join America's most secure mobile service, trusted by CEOs, VIPs and top corporations: https://www.efani.com/natalie
• Ditch your fiat health insurance like I did four years ago! Join me at CrowdHealth: www.joincrowdhealth.com/natalie

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This podcast is for educational purposes and should not be construed as official investment advice. Ads in this episode are baked-in and may reference promotions or offers that are no longer available at the time of listening.

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VALUE FOR VALUE — SUPPORT NATALIE'S SHOWS

• Strike ID https://strike.me/coinstoriesnat/
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#money #Bitcoin #investing

ABOUT COIN STORIES & THE NEWS BLOCK

Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

CONNECT WITH NATALIE

Read Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com/freechapters

Subscribe to the free newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nataliebrunell

Watch on Rumble: https://rumble.com/NatBrunell

Follow Natalie on X: https://www.x.com/natbrunell

Website: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com

PARTNERSHIPS & INQUIRIES

Interested in sponsoring Coin Stories? Contact info@talkingbitcoin.com

DISCLAIMER

This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

• Bitcoin bounces to $64K then pulls back — bear market rally or something more?
• Vanguard wants to hire its first-ever Head of Digital Assets
• Bitcoin and gold are 2026's worst-performing assets — a historic first
• The average home went from 50 Bitcoin to 7 — what that tells you about the dollar
• BIP-110: Bitcoin's biggest governance fight since 2017

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The News Block is powered exclusively by Ledn – the global leader in Bitcoin-backed loans, issuing over $11 billion in loans since 2018, and they were the first to offer proof of reserves. With Ledn, you get custody loans, no credit checks, no monthly payments, and more. My followers get .25% off their first loan. Learn more at www.ledn.io/natalie

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Order Natalie's new book "Bitcoin is For Everyone," a simple introduction to Bitcoin and what's broken in our current financial system: https://amzn.to/3WzFzfU

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Read every story in the News Block with visuals and charts! Join our mailing list and subscribe to our free Bitcoin newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

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References mentioned in the episode:

• Scott Bessent's "American Economic Statecraft in the 21st Century" Speech
• U.S. and Iran Exchange Attacks as Tehran Says the Strait of Hormuz Is Closed
• Bitcoin Rallies Above $64,000 as a Momentum Indicator Turns Bullish
• The Equal-Weighted S&P 500 Has Recorded 31 All-Time Highs in 2026
• Bitcoin and Gold Are 2026's Worst-Performing Major Assets
• Vanguard Is Hiring a Head of Digital Assets
• Head of Digital Assets, Personal Wealth — Official Vanguard Job Posting
• Vanguard Spent Years Fighting Crypto. Now It Is Planning for It
• Vanguard Oversees ~$12 Trillion as the World's Second-Largest Asset Manager
• Vanguard by the Numbers: More Than 50 Million Investors
• Vanguard Refuses to Offer Spot Bitcoin ETFs on Its Platform
• Vanguard Explains Its Decision to Allow Third-Party Cryptocurrency Funds
• BlackRock's Bitcoin ETF Generates More Revenue Than Its Flagship S&P 500 Fund
• Matthew Sigel Highlights Vanguard's Search for a Digital-Assets Leader
• Matt Hougan on Bessent's Vision for U.S. Digital-Asset Leadership
• Chart Chatter: It's the Unit of Account, Not the Asset
• Survey Finds Half of Homeowners Call the American Dream "Eroding" or "Broken"
• Most Americans Can't Afford New Homes Today

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Natalie's Upcoming Events:

• The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL

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This podcast is for educational purposes and should not be construed as official investment advice. Ads in this episode are baked-in and may reference promotions or offers that are no longer available at the time of listening.

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ABOUT COIN STORIES & THE NEWS BLOCK

Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

CONNECT WITH NATALIE

Read Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com/freechapters

Subscribe to the free newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nataliebrunell

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Website: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com

PARTNERSHIPS & INQUIRIES

Interested in sponsoring Coin Stories? Contact info@talkingbitcoin.com

DISCLAIMER

This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

Lyn Alden returns to cut through the noise: why hard assets like Bitcoin and gold have been left behind, and why she says no rescue is coming — Bitcoin has to prove itself on its own. She also breaks down the volatility around Strategy's digital credit and the protocol fight dividing the Bitcoin community.

We discuss:

• Whether Bitcoin has hit its floor — and the lowest sentiment Lyn's ever seen
• Why Bitcoin proxies and leveraged products can't replace real, self-custodied Bitcoin
• What actually happened with Strategy's $STRC — and how worried holders should be
• Her grounded take on the protocol wars, and why the "existential threat" talk is overblown
• Why the big money print everyone's waiting for still isn't coming

Follow Lyn Alden on X (@LynAldenContact) and at lynalden.com

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Order Natalie's new book "Bitcoin is For Everyone," a simple introduction to Bitcoin and what's broken in our current financial system: https://amzn.to/3WzFzfU

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Speed is my go-to Bitcoin Lightning wallet! Send, receive, or swap stablecoins and digital gold into Bitcoin in one app. Run a business? Speed powers Bitcoin payments for Steak 'n Shake, and it can do the same for you. Download at https://speed.app/natalie and use code COINSTORIES10 for 5,000 free sats after your first transaction.

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Ledn is the global leader in Bitcoin-backed loans, issuing over $10 billion in loans since 2018, and they were the first to offer proof of reserves. With Ledn, you get custody loans, no credit checks, no monthly payments, and more. Get .25% off your first loan, learn more at https://www.Ledn.io/natalie

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Abundant Mines is a fully-managed Bitcoin mining in the U.S. You own the miners. You keep 100% of the Bitcoin. Voted #1 mining company by peers. Get 1 month of free hosting: AbundantMines.com/Natalie

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Natalie's Bitcoin Product Partners:

• Download Bitkey Today and use my promo code STORIES to get 10% off the new Bitkey. This episode has been sponsored by Bitkey: https://bitkey.world/STORIES
• Master your Bitcoin self-custody with 1-on-1 help and gain peace of mind with the help of The Bitcoin Way: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/natalie
• With BitcoinIRA, you can invest in bitcoin 24/7 inside a tax-advantaged IRA. Choose a Traditional IRA to defer taxes, or a Roth IRA for tax-free withdrawals later. Take control of your future with BitcoinIRA: https://www.bitcoinira.com/natalie

Natalie's Upcoming Events:

• The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL

Extra Services to Consider:

• Protect yourself from SIM Swaps that can hack your accounts and steal your Bitcoin. Join America's most secure mobile service, trusted by CEOs, VIPs and top corporations: https://www.efani.com/natalie
• Ditch your fiat health insurance like I did four years ago! Join me at CrowdHealth: www.joincrowdhealth.com/natalie

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Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

CONNECT WITH NATALIE

Read Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com/freechapters

Subscribe to the free newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

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DISCLAIMER

This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

• Trump reported $1.4 billion in crypto income — more than Coinbase earned all year
• The Trump token collapsed 97% — here's who actually made money
• Strategy sold 3,588 Bitcoin this morning in its biggest sale yet
• Bear market data is flashing a signal we've only seen five times since 2011
• Saylor says Bitcoin evolves by not changing — Lyn Alden weighs in tomorrow

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The News Block is powered exclusively by Ledn – the global leader in Bitcoin-backed loans, issuing over $10 billion in loans since 2018, and they were the first to offer proof of reserves. With Ledn, you get custody loans, no credit checks, no monthly payments, and more. My followers get .25% off their first loan. Learn more at www.ledn.io/natalie

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Order Natalie's new book "Bitcoin is For Everyone," a simple introduction to Bitcoin and what's broken in our current financial system: https://amzn.to/3WzFzfU

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Read every story in the News Block with visuals and charts! Join our mailing list and subscribe to our free Bitcoin newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

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References mentioned in the episode:

• Trump Reports More Than $1.4B in Crypto Income for 2025
• Trump Insists There's Nothing Wrong With His Big Crypto Gains
• Trump Pocketed More Than $1B From Crypto Ties as Industry Headed Toward Slump
• Trump Says There's 'Nothing Wrong' With Family's Crypto Windfall
• Trump's Crypto Token Buyers Are Down $3.8B, Blockchain Data Shows
• Nearly 1 Million Wallets Are Down $3.8B on Trump's Memecoin
• Trump Financial Disclosures Show Hundreds of Millions in Crypto-Related Income
• Trump's Memecoin Investors Are Down Billions
• Clarity and Congress's Summer Break — State of Crypto
• River's Chart on 5-Year Crypto Performance
• Bitcoin Magazine on Trump's Crypto Disclosure
• Bitcoin Long-Term Holders Have Returned to Accumulation, Glassnode Says
• Barstool's Portnoy Plans to Hold Bitcoin Down to $0 After Timing It Wrong Every Time
• Michael Saylor: "Bitcoin Evolves by Not Changing"
• DurdenBTC: ~45% of Long-Term Holder Supply in Loss
• DurdenBTC: Bitcoin Supply-in-Profit at Historical Lows
• Bitfinex: Long-Term Holder Supply in Loss

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This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

He answers the Bitcoin purists on adding gold, breaks down Ledn's first S&P investment-grade bond backed by Bitcoin loans, and gives a firsthand account of Venezuela after Maduro's capture.

Topics we cover:

• XAUt tokenized gold (real bars in Tether's Swiss vaults) coming to Ledn, with gold-backed loans later this year
• Inside Ledn's first S&P investment-grade bond backed by Bitcoin loans — and how the ABS market could scale Bitcoin credit toward $1 trillion
• Mauricio's answer to Bitcoiners who don't like credit products or investing in other assets
• Natalie's experience taking her first Ledn loan: https://youtu.be/xD3ZoZ2woPk?si=ix0HKnD85hqMTokU
• Why Ledn caps loans at 50% LTV, and how auto top-off protects borrowers from liquidation
• His read on "seller exhaustion" and why he expects a summer price come-back
• Venezuela after Maduro's capture — and the crackdown on its illegal gold mines

Follow Mauricio Di Bartolomeo on X https://x.com/cryptonomista and sign up for Ledn at ledn.io/natalie to get .25% off your first loan.

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Order Natalie's new book "Bitcoin is For Everyone," a simple introduction to Bitcoin and what's broken in our current financial system: https://amzn.to/3WzFzfU

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Have you downloaded SPEED WALLET yet? It's my go-to Lightning wallet — send, receive, and swap Bitcoin, stablecoins, and digital gold in one app. Run a business? Speed powers Bitcoin payments for Steak 'n Shake, and it can do the same for you. Download at www.speed.app/natalie and use code COINSTORIES10 for 5,000 free sats after your first transaction.

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Ledn is the global leader in Bitcoin-backed loans, issuing over $10 billion in loans since 2018, and they were the first to offer proof of reserves. With Ledn, you get custody loans, no credit checks, no monthly payments, and more. Get .25% off your first loan, learn more at https://www.Ledn.io/natalie

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Abundant Mines is a fully-managed Bitcoin mining in the U.S. You own the miners. You keep 100% of the Bitcoin. Voted #1 mining company by peers. Get 1 month of free hosting: AbundantMines.com/Natalie

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Natalie's Bitcoin Product Partners:

• Block's Bitkey Cold Storage Wallet was named to TIME's prestigious Best Inventions of 2024 in the category of Privacy & Security. Get 10% off using code STORIES at https://bitkey.world/STORIES
• Master your Bitcoin self-custody with 1-on-1 help and gain peace of mind with the help of The Bitcoin Way: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/natalie
• With BitcoinIRA, you can invest in bitcoin 24/7 inside a tax-advantaged IRA. Choose a Traditional IRA to defer taxes, or a Roth IRA for tax-free withdrawals later. Take control of your future with BitcoinIRA: https://www.bitcoinira.com/natalie

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Natalie's Upcoming Events:

• Join us for the biggest Bitcoin conference in Europe at BTC Prague this June 10-13 with a keynote from Michael Saylor, Code HODL for discounted passes: https://btcprague.com/
• The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL

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Extra Services to Consider:

• Protect yourself from SIM Swaps that can hack your accounts and steal your Bitcoin. Join America's most secure mobile service, trusted by CEOs, VIPs and top corporations: https://www.efani.com/natalie
• Ditch your fiat health insurance like I did four years ago! Join me at CrowdHealth: www.joincrowdhealth.com/natalie

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This podcast is for educational purposes and should not be construed as official investment advice. Ads in this episode are baked-in and may reference promotions or offers that are no longer available at the time of listening.

----

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ABOUT COIN STORIES & THE NEWS BLOCK

Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

CONNECT WITH NATALIE

Read Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com/freechapters

Subscribe to the free newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

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Website: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com

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Interested in sponsoring Coin Stories? Contact info@talkingbitcoin.com

DISCLAIMER

This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

• Strategy's preferred stock STRC crashed to $71 - then Saylor announced a plan to fix it: full breakdown on Strategy's Digital Credit Capital Framework
• Jeremy Grantham says Bitcoin will "dwindle away with a whimper"
• The IMF and UBS both just said the quiet part out loud about the dollar
• Ledn partners with Tether to let you borrow against gold - our interview with Mauricio drops tomorrow
• Illinois just passed the most punitive crypto tax in America

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Order Natalie's new book "Bitcoin is For Everyone," a simple introduction to Bitcoin and what's broken in our current financial system: https://amzn.to/3WzFzfU

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Upcoming Events:

• The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL

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References mentioned in the episode:

• Michael Saylor — Digital Credit Capital Framework announcement
• Strategy Announces New Digital Credit Capital Framework
• Strategy Opens the Door to Selling Bitcoin Under New Capital Plan
• Saylor's Strategy Initiates Buybacks, BTC Monetization Program, Lifts STRC Dividend
• Strategy Says It May Sell Up to $1.25 Billion of Bitcoin
• Billionaire Investor Jeremy Grantham Says Bitcoin Will 'Dwindle Away With a Whimper'
• Stock-Bond Diversification Offers Less Protection From Market Selloffs
• Global Family Office Report 2026

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This podcast is for educational purposes and should not be construed as official investment advice.

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#money #Bitcoin #investing

ABOUT COIN STORIES & THE NEWS BLOCK

Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

CONNECT WITH NATALIE

Read Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com/freechapters

Subscribe to the free newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nataliebrunell

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Website: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com

PARTNERSHIPS & INQUIRIES

Interested in sponsoring Coin Stories? Contact info@talkingbitcoin.com

DISCLAIMER

This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

We went back through the most-watched, most-shared moments from the show and built them into a single story: what's broken with the money, why Bitcoin fixes it, and what you can actually do about it. In about 35 minutes you'll hear the clearest case for why the system feels rigged, why these four believe Bitcoin is the way out, and the one line Saylor leaves you with: Bitcoin will win — but not everyone wins with it.

Topics:

• Why Jeff Booth says we've never actually lived in a free market
• Michael Saylor on why Bitcoin is "the best asset, with no second best"
• How broken money quietly concentrates wealth at the very top
• Whitney Webb on digital ID, programmable money, and how to opt out
• Why no politician or billionaire is coming to save you
• The mindset shift that turns doom into building something better

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Order Natalie's new book "Bitcoin is For Everyone," a simple introduction to Bitcoin and what's broken in our current financial system: https://amzn.to/3WzFzfU

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Coin Stories is powered by Gemini. Invest as you spend with the Gemini Credit Card. Earn up to 4% back in sats on everyday purchases like gas and groceries. Sign up today https://www.gemini.com/natalie

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Ledn is the global leader in Bitcoin-backed loans, issuing over $10 billion in loans since 2018, and they were the first to offer proof of reserves. With Ledn, you get custody loans, no credit checks, no monthly payments, and more. Get .25% off your first loan, learn more at https://www.Ledn.io/natalie

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Abundant Mines is a fully-managed Bitcoin mining in the U.S. You own the miners. You keep 100% of the Bitcoin. Voted #1 mining company by peers. Get 1 month of free hosting: AbundantMines.com/Natalie

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Natalie's Bitcoin Product Partners:

• Check out my favorite lightning wallet and trivia app Speed Wallet. If you're a business, let Speed help you accept BTC like they did for Steak 'n Shake! Visit http://speed.app/natalie/ and use code COINSTORIES10 for 5,000 free sats
• Block's Bitkey Cold Storage Wallet was named to TIME's prestigious Best Inventions of 2024 in the category of Privacy & Security. Get 10% off using code STORIES at https://bitkey.world
• Master your Bitcoin self-custody with 1-on-1 help and gain peace of mind with the help of The Bitcoin Way: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/natalie
• With BitcoinIRA, you can invest in bitcoin 24/7 inside a tax-advantaged IRA. Choose a Traditional IRA to defer taxes, or a Roth IRA for tax-free withdrawals later. Take control of your future with BitcoinIRA: https://www.bitcoinira.com/natalie

Natalie's Upcoming Events:

• Join us for the biggest Bitcoin conference in Europe at BTC Prague this June 10-13 with a keynote from Michael Saylor, Code HODL for discounted passes: https://btcprague.com/
• The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL

Extra Services to Consider:

• Protect yourself from SIM Swaps that can hack your accounts and steal your Bitcoin. Join America's most secure mobile service, trusted by CEOs, VIPs and top corporations: https://www.efani.com/natalie
• Ditch your fiat health insurance like I did four years ago! Join me at CrowdHealth: www.joincrowdhealth.com/natalie

----

This podcast is for educational purposes and should not be construed as official investment advice. Ads in this episode are baked-in and may reference promotions or offers that are no longer available at the time of listening.

----

VALUE FOR VALUE — SUPPORT NATALIE'S SHOWS

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#money #Bitcoin #investing

ABOUT COIN STORIES & THE NEWS BLOCK

Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

CONNECT WITH NATALIE

Read Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com/freechapters

Subscribe to the free newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nataliebrunell

Watch on Rumble: https://rumble.com/NatBrunell

Follow Natalie on X: https://www.x.com/natbrunell

Website: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com

PARTNERSHIPS & INQUIRIES

Interested in sponsoring Coin Stories? Contact info@talkingbitcoin.com

DISCLAIMER

This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

• Digital credit's worst day ever - what actually caused the STRC and SATA selloff and why it matters
• The carry trade that blew up: how investors borrowing at 5% to earn 11.5% created a cascade
• Kevin Warsh chairs his first Fed meeting, kills forward guidance, and launches five task forces
• The Iran deal is already fraying — Iran re-declares the Strait of Hormuz closed days after signing
• A message to the Bitcoin community on recent in-fighting

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Order Natalie's new book "Bitcoin is For Everyone," a simple introduction to Bitcoin and what's broken in our current financial system: https://amzn.to/3WzFzfU

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Upcoming Events:

• The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL

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This podcast is for educational purposes and should not be construed as official investment advice.

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#money #Bitcoin #investing

ABOUT COIN STORIES & THE NEWS BLOCK

Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

CONNECT WITH NATALIE

Read Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com/freechapters

Subscribe to the free newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nataliebrunell

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Website: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com

PARTNERSHIPS & INQUIRIES

Interested in sponsoring Coin Stories? Contact info@talkingbitcoin.com

DISCLAIMER

This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

Saylor answers the critics and short sellers head-on, explaining why "never sell your Bitcoin" is advice for everyday holders, no longer a rule for a company built to buy Bitcoin and pay out Bitcoin-backed dividends. We discuss:

• Why "never sell your Bitcoin" is advice for individual retail investors
• How the company is built to survive a crash
• Why he argues Bitcoin needs credit to keep winning
• The four ideologies of Bitcoin
• When he expects capital to rotate back from AI into Bitcoin

Follow Michael Saylor on X https://x.com/saylor

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Order Natalie's new book "Bitcoin is For Everyone," a simple introduction to Bitcoin and what's broken in our current financial system: https://amzn.to/3WzFzfU

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Coin Stories is powered by Gemini. Invest as you spend with the Gemini Credit Card. Earn up to 4% back in sats on everyday purchases like gas and groceries. Sign up today https://www.gemini.com/natalie

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Ledn is the global leader in Bitcoin-backed loans, issuing over $10 billion in loans since 2018, and they were the first to offer proof of reserves. With Ledn, you get custody loans, no credit checks, no monthly payments, and more. Get .25% off your first loan, learn more at https://www.Ledn.io/natalie

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Abundant Mines is a fully-managed Bitcoin mining in the U.S. You own the miners. You keep 100% of the Bitcoin. Voted #1 mining company by peers. Get 1 month of free hosting: AbundantMines.com/Natalie

----

Natalie's Bitcoin Product Partners:

• Check out my favorite lightning wallet and trivia app Speed Wallet. If you're a business, let Speed help you accept BTC like they did for Steak 'n Shake! Visit http://speed.app/natalie/ and use code COINSTORIES10 for 5,000 free sats
• Block's Bitkey Cold Storage Wallet was named to TIME's prestigious Best Inventions of 2024 in the category of Privacy & Security. Get 10% off using code STORIES at https://bitkey.world/STORIES
• Master your Bitcoin self-custody with 1-on-1 help and gain peace of mind with the help of The Bitcoin Way: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/natalie
• With BitcoinIRA, you can invest in bitcoin 24/7 inside a tax-advantaged IRA. Choose a Traditional IRA to defer taxes, or a Roth IRA for tax-free withdrawals later. Take control of your future with BitcoinIRA: https://www.bitcoinira.com/natalie

Natalie's Upcoming Events:

• The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL

Extra Services to Consider:

• Protect yourself from SIM Swaps that can hack your accounts and steal your Bitcoin. Join America's most secure mobile service, trusted by CEOs, VIPs and top corporations: https://www.efani.com/natalie
• Ditch your fiat health insurance like I did four years ago! Join me at CrowdHealth: www.joincrowdhealth.com/natalie

----

This podcast is for educational purposes and should not be construed as official investment advice. Ads in this episode are baked-in and may reference promotions or offers that are no longer available at the time of listening.

----

VALUE FOR VALUE — SUPPORT NATALIE'S SHOWS

• Strike ID https://strike.me/coinstoriesnat/
• Cash App $CoinStories

#money #Bitcoin #investing

ABOUT COIN STORIES & THE NEWS BLOCK

Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

CONNECT WITH NATALIE

Read Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com/freechapters

Subscribe to the free newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nataliebrunell

Watch on Rumble: https://rumble.com/NatBrunell

Follow Natalie on X: https://www.x.com/natbrunell

Website: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com

PARTNERSHIPS & INQUIRIES

Interested in sponsoring Coin Stories? Contact info@talkingbitcoin.com

DISCLAIMER

This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

• SpaceX goes public in the largest IPO in history with more than 18,000 Bitcoin on the balance sheet
• The outrage over Elon Musk becoming a trillionaire (and the $40 trillion in debt the same people aren't mad about)
• Why the AI boom is sucking capital out of Bitcoin — and what happens when it overshoots
• The debate tearing the Bitcoin community apart
• Saylor explains the 32 Bitcoin sale and says capital rotates back from AI to Bitcoin by year-end

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The News Block is powered exclusively by Ledn – the global leader in Bitcoin-backed loans, issuing over $10 billion in loans since 2018, and they were the first to offer proof of reserves. With Ledn, you get custody loans, no credit checks, no monthly payments, and more. My followers get .25% off their first loan. Learn more at www.ledn.io/natalie

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Order Natalie's new book "Bitcoin is For Everyone," a simple introduction to Bitcoin and what's broken in our current financial system: https://amzn.to/3WzFzfU

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Read every story in the News Block with visuals and charts! Join our mailing list and subscribe to our free Bitcoin newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

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References mentioned in the episode:

• SpaceX Prices Shares at $135 in Largest IPO Ever
• Here's What SpaceX's IPO Means for Its $1.3 Billion Bitcoin Reserve
• SpaceX IPO Could Become Bitcoin's Latest Headwind
• Saylor to Musk: Thanks to You, 25% of Mag8 Firms Now Hold Bitcoin
• Michael Saylor on X — Mag8 Bitcoin Quote
• Pierre Rochard on X — Capital Rotation Article

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Upcoming Events:

• The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off (use HODL for Bitcoin Asia and Abu Dhabi too!): https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL

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This podcast is for educational purposes and should not be construed as official investment advice.

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VALUE FOR VALUE — SUPPORT NATALIE'S SHOWS

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#money #Bitcoin #investing

ABOUT COIN STORIES & THE NEWS BLOCK

Natalie Brunell's content features conversations with leading voices in Bitcoin, economics, finance, and technology, exploring the future of money and how it impacts our lives.

CONNECT WITH NATALIE

Read Bitcoin is for Everyone: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com/freechapters

Subscribe to the free newsletter: https://thenewsblock.substack.com

Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nataliebrunell

Watch on Rumble: https://rumble.com/NatBrunell

Follow Natalie on X: https://www.x.com/natbrunell

Website: https://www.talkingbitcoin.com

PARTNERSHIPS & INQUIRIES

Interested in sponsoring Coin Stories? Contact info@talkingbitcoin.com

DISCLAIMER

This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. Guest views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Natalie Brunell or the show. Paid partnerships, sponsorships, and affiliate relationships are disclosed where applicable. Natalie Brunell may earn commissions from purchases or sign-ups through certain links, at no additional cost to you. Always conduct your own research before making financial decisions.

Amy Oldenburg runs the firm's digital asset strategy, and she joins Natalie Brunell to break down what Wall Street actually sees in Bitcoin, why the price has been stuck, and what could finally move it. She also explains how much Bitcoin Morgan Stanley tells clients to own, why most financial advisors still aren't on board, and her honest take on where the price goes over the next 5 years.

Topics:

• Why a 26-year Wall Street veteran embraced Bitcoin
• How much Bitcoin Morgan Stanley recommends owning
• Why Bitcoin is stuck even as the banks pile in
• What could spark the next big move
• Her real 5-year and 10-year Bitcoin outlook
• Why "all crypto is the same" is a costly mistake

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