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<p><strong>Additional Reading:</strong></p>
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 <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/20/technology/tim-cook-apple-ceo-steps-down.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Tim Cook Will Step Down as Apple C.E.O.</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/08/technology/apple-ceo-tim-cook-john-ternus.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Who Is John Ternus, Apple’s Low-Profile Leader?</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.platformer.news/ubi-ai-public-wealth-fund-musk-openai-bores/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Why U.B.I. Is Making a Comeback</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/10/technology/his-2020-campaign-message-the-robots-are-coming.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">His 2020 Campaign Message: The Robots Are Coming</a></li>
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 <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/21/us/san-francisco-store-managed-ai-agent.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">What Happens When A.I. Runs a Store in San Francisco?</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/boards-policy-regulation/meta-start-capturing-employee-mouse-movements-keystrokes-ai-training-data-2026-04-21/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Meta to Start Capturing Employee Mouse Movements, Keystrokes for A.I. Training Data</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/21/business/spacex-cursor-deal.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">SpaceX Strikes Deal With Cursor for $60 Billion</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/openai-beefs-up-chatgpts-image-generation-model/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">OpenAI Beefs Up ChatGPT’s Image Generation Model</a></li>
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<p> </p>
<p>We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/hardfork" rel="noopener noreferrer">YouTube</a> and <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@hardfork" rel="noopener noreferrer">TikTok</a>.</p>
<p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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<p> </p>
<p><strong>Guest:</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li><a href="https://blog.andrewyang.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">Andrew Yang</a>, chief executive of Noble Mobile and author of “Hey Yang, Where’s My Thousand Bucks?”</li>
</ul>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>Additional Reading:</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/20/technology/tim-cook-apple-ceo-steps-down.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Tim Cook Will Step Down as Apple C.E.O.</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/08/technology/apple-ceo-tim-cook-john-ternus.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Who Is John Ternus, Apple’s Low-Profile Leader?</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.platformer.news/ubi-ai-public-wealth-fund-musk-openai-bores/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Why U.B.I. Is Making a Comeback</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/10/technology/his-2020-campaign-message-the-robots-are-coming.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">His 2020 Campaign Message: The Robots Are Coming</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/913874/prego-connection-keeper-bundle-voice-recorder-storycorps" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">This Pasta Sauce Wants to Record Your Family</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.wsj.com/tech/chinese-robot-beats-human-best-time-in-half-marathon-after-a-stumble-b3c354e7" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Chinese Robot Beats Human Best Time in Half-Marathon, After a Stumble</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/21/us/san-francisco-store-managed-ai-agent.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">What Happens When A.I. Runs a Store in San Francisco?</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/boards-policy-regulation/meta-start-capturing-employee-mouse-movements-keystrokes-ai-training-data-2026-04-21/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Meta to Start Capturing Employee Mouse Movements, Keystrokes for A.I. Training Data</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/21/business/spacex-cursor-deal.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">SpaceX Strikes Deal With Cursor for $60 Billion</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/openai-beefs-up-chatgpts-image-generation-model/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">OpenAI Beefs Up ChatGPT’s Image Generation Model</a></li>
</ul>
<p> </p>
<p>We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/hardfork" rel="noopener noreferrer">YouTube</a> and <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@hardfork" rel="noopener noreferrer">TikTok</a>.</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week, amid violent attacks on the homes of the OpenAI chief executive Sam Altman and the Indianapolis councilman Ron Gibson, we debate why artificial intelligence and data centers are so unpopular. Then, Kara Swisher returns to the show to discuss her new docuseries on Silicon Valley’s obsession with living longer. And finally, can chief executives replace themselves with A.I.? Mark Zuckerberg seems to be trying.</p>
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 <li>Kara Swisher, tech journalist and host of the podcasts “Pivot” and “On With Kara Swisher.”</li>
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<p><br><strong>Additional Reading:</strong></p>
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 <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/06/us/indianapolis-data-center-shooting.html" rel="noopener noreferrer">Shots Fired at Indianapolis Councilman’s Home, After Vote Backing Data Center</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/13/technology/man-who-attacked-openai-ceos-home-had-list-of-other-ai-executives.html" rel="noopener noreferrer">Man Held in Attack on OpenAI Chief’s Home Had List of A.I. Leaders, Officials Say</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.cnn.com/kara-swisher-wants-to-live-forever" rel="noopener noreferrer">Kara Swisher Wants to Live Forever</a></li>
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<p>We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/hardfork" rel="noopener noreferrer">YouTube</a> and <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@hardfork" rel="noopener noreferrer">TikTok</a>.</p>
<p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>]]></description>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, amid violent attacks on the homes of the OpenAI chief executive Sam Altman and the Indianapolis councilman Ron Gibson, we debate why artificial intelligence and data centers are so unpopular. Then, Kara Swisher returns to the show to discuss her new docuseries on Silicon Valley’s obsession with living longer. And finally, can chief executives replace themselves with A.I.? Mark Zuckerberg seems to be trying.</p>
<p><br><strong>Guests:</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>Kara Swisher, tech journalist and host of the podcasts “Pivot” and “On With Kara Swisher.”</li>
</ul>
<p><br><strong>Additional Reading:</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/06/us/indianapolis-data-center-shooting.html" rel="noopener noreferrer">Shots Fired at Indianapolis Councilman’s Home, After Vote Backing Data Center</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/13/technology/man-who-attacked-openai-ceos-home-had-list-of-other-ai-executives.html" rel="noopener noreferrer">Man Held in Attack on OpenAI Chief’s Home Had List of A.I. Leaders, Officials Say</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.cnn.com/kara-swisher-wants-to-live-forever" rel="noopener noreferrer">Kara Swisher Wants to Live Forever</a></li>
 <li><a href="http://ft.com/content/02107c23-6c7a-4c19-b8e2-b45f4bb9ce5f?accessToken=zwAAAZ2YBMcBkc8CEHwjbHpMGdO44rRfS7nOXw.MEYCIQDssvG3RYyhNQfO6Xnuaw5PG30RmuDW5U2afGCfE9edswIhAPcxqjPWmcfIYN1NvUuNPMw6hbpAIVPlYeH4DDm4oHKB&segmentId=e95a9ae7-622c-6235-5f87-51e412b47e97&shareId=fc8a23cd-b5c1-4c68-9bbe-b3424f533ece&shareType=enterprise&syn-25a6b1a6=1" rel="noopener noreferrer">Meta Builds A.I. Version of Mark Zuckerberg to Interact With Staff</a></li>
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<p>We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/hardfork" rel="noopener noreferrer">YouTube</a> and <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@hardfork" rel="noopener noreferrer">TikTok</a>.</p>
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