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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Yesterday we launched our first-ever live show from the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE) called “The Space & Defense Market Update.” We brought together investors and analysts operating at every stage of the capital stack to stress-test what's real and what’s priced in.</p>
<p>Capital markets are moving faster than anyone has clean answers for. Data centers in space are attracting serious money and serious skepticism in equal measure. Public market valuations are demanding a level of conviction that leaves little room for error. And NASA just rewrote its lunar roadmap while an astronaut crew prepares to fly around the Moon for the first time in fifty years. Our guests this month are:</p>
<ul>
 <li>Mike Annunziata, Founder & Managing Partner of Also Capital</li>
 <li>Mark Danchak, Co-Founder & General Partner of General Innovation Capital Partners</li>
 <li>Mariana Perez Mora, Director, Bank of America Equity Research</li>
</ul>
<p>We get into:</p>
<ul>
 <li>Why data centers in space will be willed into existence</li>
 <li>What early-stage investors can see in space and defense founders that later-stage capital only appreciates once it's obvious</li>
 <li>How public markets are actually pricing space and defense right now</li>
 <li>The Palantir valuation framework: what you have to believe, and whether those beliefs hold</li>
 <li>NASA's new lunar roadmap: Moon base over Gateway, crewed missions twice a year, and what it means for the commercial players already in the queue</li>
 <li>Why Artemis II launching tomorrow is a bigger deal than most people are treating it</li>
</ul>
<p> </p>
<p>• Show notes •</p>
<p>Mo's socials — <a href="https://x.com/itsmoislam" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://x.com/itsmoislam</a><br>
 Jack’s socials — https://x.com/JackKuhr<br>
 Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace<br>
 Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear / <br>
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/<br>
 Tectonic’s socials — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense</p>
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<p>Capital markets are moving faster than anyone has clean answers for. Data centers in space are attracting serious money and serious skepticism in equal measure. Public market valuations are demanding a level of conviction that leaves little room for error. And NASA just rewrote its lunar roadmap while an astronaut crew prepares to fly around the Moon for the first time in fifty years. Our guests this month are:</p>
<ul>
 <li>Mike Annunziata, Founder & Managing Partner of Also Capital</li>
 <li>Mark Danchak, Co-Founder & General Partner of General Innovation Capital Partners</li>
 <li>Mariana Perez Mora, Director, Bank of America Equity Research</li>
</ul>
<p>We get into:</p>
<ul>
 <li>Why data centers in space will be willed into existence</li>
 <li>What early-stage investors can see in space and defense founders that later-stage capital only appreciates once it's obvious</li>
 <li>How public markets are actually pricing space and defense right now</li>
 <li>The Palantir valuation framework: what you have to believe, and whether those beliefs hold</li>
 <li>NASA's new lunar roadmap: Moon base over Gateway, crewed missions twice a year, and what it means for the commercial players already in the queue</li>
 <li>Why Artemis II launching tomorrow is a bigger deal than most people are treating it</li>
</ul>
<p> </p>
<p>• Show notes •</p>
<p>Mo's socials — <a href="https://x.com/itsmoislam" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://x.com/itsmoislam</a><br>
 Jack’s socials — https://x.com/JackKuhr<br>
 Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace<br>
 Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear / <br>
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/<br>
 Tectonic’s socials — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Scott Sanders has seen the defense tech industry from just about every angle. As a Marine officer, he watched promising capability stall somewhere between a program office and the field. As an early employee at Anduril, he helped build one of the companies that bet it could do better.  </p>
<p>Now, as Chief Growth Officer at Forterra, he's making that same bet on autonomous ground systems, a market that's been promised for years and is only now being put to the test. In this episode of Valley of Depth, we press Scott on what's actually working, what isn't, and where the hype is running ahead of the hardware.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>We get into:</p>
<ul>
 <li>Why the gap between a cool tech demo and a real defense business is wider than most founders think</li>
 <li>What investors still fundamentally misunderstand about defense timelines and business model risk</li>
 <li>Why most defense startups won't become primes and what the ones that do have in common</li>
 <li>How Forterra is approaching autonomy, mesh networking, and distributed operations at the tactical edge</li>
 <li>What it looks like to actually get capability to operators, not just into a program of record</li>
 <li>The procurement dysfunction that everyone in the room knows about and almost no one fixes</li>
</ul>
<p> </p>
<p>• Chapters •</p>
<p>00:00 – Intro<br>
 00:50 – Sun Valley<br>
 03:14 – Scott’s time in the Philippines<br>
 09:04 – Why Scott joined Anduril<br>
 14:01 – Working with the government: then vs now<br>
 17:34 – What investors should look for in defense tech<br>
 20:27 – Forterra in 2022 vs 2026<br>
 25:12 – Forterra’s products today<br>
 26:39 – Autonomy-as-a-service model<br>
 30:13 – Hardware and software<br>
 32:36 – Commercial end users<br>
 33:52 – Why acquire mesh networking from goTenna?<br>
 37:27 – Current programs and contracts<br>
 40:55 – Fully autonomous systems in contested environments<br>
 44:30 – Hiring in a competitive defense tech industry<br>
 47:25 – How many SVDG companies could become primes?<br>
 47:52 – Exciting technologies for investors<br>
 51:46 – Forterra in 7–8 years<br>
 53:34 – What Scott does for fun</p>
<p> </p>
<p>• Show notes •</p>
<p>Forterra’s website — https://www.forterra.com/<br>
 Forterra’ socials — https://x.com/ForterraDrive=<br>
 Mo's socials — https://x.com/itsmoislam<br>
 Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace<br>
 Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear /  <br>
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/<br>
 Tectonic’s socials  — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/<br>
 Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/</p>
<p> </p>
<p>• About us •</p>
<p>Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.</p>
<ul>
 <li>Payload: www.payloadspace.com</li>
 <li>Tectonic: www.tectonicdefense.com</li>
 <li>Ignition: www.ignition-news.com</li>
</ul>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott Sanders has seen the defense tech industry from just about every angle. As a Marine officer, he watched promising capability stall somewhere between a program office and the field. As an early employee at Anduril, he helped build one of the companies that bet it could do better.  </p>
<p>Now, as Chief Growth Officer at Forterra, he's making that same bet on autonomous ground systems, a market that's been promised for years and is only now being put to the test. In this episode of Valley of Depth, we press Scott on what's actually working, what isn't, and where the hype is running ahead of the hardware.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>We get into:</p>
<ul>
 <li>Why the gap between a cool tech demo and a real defense business is wider than most founders think</li>
 <li>What investors still fundamentally misunderstand about defense timelines and business model risk</li>
 <li>Why most defense startups won't become primes and what the ones that do have in common</li>
 <li>How Forterra is approaching autonomy, mesh networking, and distributed operations at the tactical edge</li>
 <li>What it looks like to actually get capability to operators, not just into a program of record</li>
 <li>The procurement dysfunction that everyone in the room knows about and almost no one fixes</li>
</ul>
<p> </p>
<p>• Chapters •</p>
<p>00:00 – Intro<br>
 00:50 – Sun Valley<br>
 03:14 – Scott’s time in the Philippines<br>
 09:04 – Why Scott joined Anduril<br>
 14:01 – Working with the government: then vs now<br>
 17:34 – What investors should look for in defense tech<br>
 20:27 – Forterra in 2022 vs 2026<br>
 25:12 – Forterra’s products today<br>
 26:39 – Autonomy-as-a-service model<br>
 30:13 – Hardware and software<br>
 32:36 – Commercial end users<br>
 33:52 – Why acquire mesh networking from goTenna?<br>
 37:27 – Current programs and contracts<br>
 40:55 – Fully autonomous systems in contested environments<br>
 44:30 – Hiring in a competitive defense tech industry<br>
 47:25 – How many SVDG companies could become primes?<br>
 47:52 – Exciting technologies for investors<br>
 51:46 – Forterra in 7–8 years<br>
 53:34 – What Scott does for fun</p>
<p> </p>
<p>• Show notes •</p>
<p>Forterra’s website — https://www.forterra.com/<br>
 Forterra’ socials — https://x.com/ForterraDrive=<br>
 Mo's socials — https://x.com/itsmoislam<br>
 Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace<br>
 Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear /  <br>
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/<br>
 Tectonic’s socials  — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/<br>
 Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/</p>
<p> </p>
<p>• About us •</p>
<p>Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.</p>
<ul>
 <li>Payload: www.payloadspace.com</li>
 <li>Tectonic: www.tectonicdefense.com</li>
 <li>Ignition: www.ignition-news.com</li>
</ul>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Valley of Depth, we sit down with Mark Boggett, CEO of Seraphim Space, to break down one of the biggest questions in the industry right now: are we still early in the space economy, or has the easy money already been made?</p>
<p>Mark has built one of the first dedicated space-focused venture firms, before the category became institutional. We discuss how the market has evolved from uncertain capital availability to a more mature ecosystem where large-scale funding is now expected and why that shift is unlocking a new phase of growth.</p>
<p>We cover:</p>
<ul>
 <li>Why the space economy is still in its early innings of value creation</li>
 <li>How capital availability has transformed space investing over the last decade</li>
 <li>Seraphim’s strategy and why they avoid launch, space travel, and lunar markets</li>
 <li>The rise of European defense demand and the emergence of “neo-primes”</li>
 <li>How space companies are becoming real, profitable businesses</li>
 <li>Where the market may be overbuilt vs. underinvested</li>
 <li>Why vertically integrated constellations remain the core opportunity</li>
 <li>What the next phase of the space economy looks like</li>
</ul>
<p> </p>
<p>• Chapters •</p>
<p>00:00 – Intro<br>
 00:38 – What current moment are we in in the space economy?<br>
 01:33 – Mark's history with the space industry and the changes he's seen<br>
 02:50 – What prompted Mark to start taking bets on the space industry?<br>
 07:52 – Early pushback in space investing<br>
 10:27 – How do you convince investors to invest in space companies if the biggest company (SpaceX) is still not public?<br>
 13:27 – Seraphim's strategy for their funds<br>
 21:23 – Seraphim's competitive moat<br>
 24:52 – Where does Seraphim go from a founder's focused approach to a more guided one?<br>
 30:31 – IC EYE<br>
 36:34 – Space investment trends that Mark sees in Europe<br>
 41:54 – US vs Europe future investments<br>
 45:50 – Understanding American vs European aerospace company valuations<br>
 47:56 – Where are we currently overbuilt?<br>
 54:34 – Why doesn't Seraphim invest in the Moon and Mars and will this change?<br>
 01:00:00 – What Mark does for fun</p>
<p> </p>
<p>• Show notes •</p>
<p>Seraphim’s website — https://seraphim.vc/<br>
 Seraphim’s socials — https://x.com/seraphim_space<br>
 Mo's socials — https://x.com/itsmoislam<br>
 Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace<br>
 Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear /  <br>
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/<br>
 Tectonic’s socials  — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/<br>
 Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/</p>
<p> </p>
<p>• About us •</p>
<p>Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.</p>
<ul>
 <li>Payload: www.payloadspace.com</li>
 <li>Tectonic: www.tectonicdefense.com</li>
 <li>Ignition: www.ignition-news.com</li>
</ul>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2026 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>mo@arkaeamedia.com (Arkaea Media (Payload | Ignition | Tectonic))</author>
      <link>https://pod.payloadspace.com/</link>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Valley of Depth, we sit down with Mark Boggett, CEO of Seraphim Space, to break down one of the biggest questions in the industry right now: are we still early in the space economy, or has the easy money already been made?</p>
<p>Mark has built one of the first dedicated space-focused venture firms, before the category became institutional. We discuss how the market has evolved from uncertain capital availability to a more mature ecosystem where large-scale funding is now expected and why that shift is unlocking a new phase of growth.</p>
<p>We cover:</p>
<ul>
 <li>Why the space economy is still in its early innings of value creation</li>
 <li>How capital availability has transformed space investing over the last decade</li>
 <li>Seraphim’s strategy and why they avoid launch, space travel, and lunar markets</li>
 <li>The rise of European defense demand and the emergence of “neo-primes”</li>
 <li>How space companies are becoming real, profitable businesses</li>
 <li>Where the market may be overbuilt vs. underinvested</li>
 <li>Why vertically integrated constellations remain the core opportunity</li>
 <li>What the next phase of the space economy looks like</li>
</ul>
<p> </p>
<p>• Chapters •</p>
<p>00:00 – Intro<br>
 00:38 – What current moment are we in in the space economy?<br>
 01:33 – Mark's history with the space industry and the changes he's seen<br>
 02:50 – What prompted Mark to start taking bets on the space industry?<br>
 07:52 – Early pushback in space investing<br>
 10:27 – How do you convince investors to invest in space companies if the biggest company (SpaceX) is still not public?<br>
 13:27 – Seraphim's strategy for their funds<br>
 21:23 – Seraphim's competitive moat<br>
 24:52 – Where does Seraphim go from a founder's focused approach to a more guided one?<br>
 30:31 – IC EYE<br>
 36:34 – Space investment trends that Mark sees in Europe<br>
 41:54 – US vs Europe future investments<br>
 45:50 – Understanding American vs European aerospace company valuations<br>
 47:56 – Where are we currently overbuilt?<br>
 54:34 – Why doesn't Seraphim invest in the Moon and Mars and will this change?<br>
 01:00:00 – What Mark does for fun</p>
<p> </p>
<p>• Show notes •</p>
<p>Seraphim’s website — https://seraphim.vc/<br>
 Seraphim’s socials — https://x.com/seraphim_space<br>
 Mo's socials — https://x.com/itsmoislam<br>
 Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace<br>
 Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear /  <br>
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/<br>
 Tectonic’s socials  — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/<br>
 Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/</p>
<p> </p>
<p>• About us •</p>
<p>Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.</p>
<ul>
 <li>Payload: www.payloadspace.com</li>
 <li>Tectonic: www.tectonicdefense.com</li>
 <li>Ignition: www.ignition-news.com</li>
</ul>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Valley of Depth, we dive into Aalyria’s newly announced $100 million raise at a $1.3 billion valuation with cofounder and CTO Brian Barritt and unpack why investors are betting big on the future of networks that don’t sit still.</p>
<p>Aalyria is building two core technologies born inside Google: Spacetime, a software orchestration layer designed to manage networks in motion, and Tightbeam, a laser communications system delivering fiber-like speeds through the atmosphere. Together, they aim to solve one of the hardest infrastructure challenges in aerospace and defense: how to coordinate satellites, aircraft, drones, ships, and ground systems into a seamless “network of networks.”</p>
<p>The conversation spans laser physics, diffraction challenges in space-to-ground links, feeder link bottlenecks in mega-constellations, and why routing data across moving infrastructure is fundamentally different than routing across fixed networks.</p>
<p>We cover:</p>
<ul>
 <li>Why Aalyria’s $100M raise signals a shift from R&D to deployment</li>
 <li>What “network in motion” really means and why it’s so hard</li>
 <li>How laser communications can reach 100 gigabits per second through atmosphere</li>
 <li>The technical challenge of Earth-to-space vs. space-to-Earth optical links</li>
 <li>Why interoperability has been a 40-year ambition inside the DoD</li>
 <li>How open APIs could become the connective tissue for JADC2 and beyond</li>
 <li>What resilience and roaming look like in hybrid satellite architectures</li>
 <li>Why optical ground stations require orchestration software to scale</li>
</ul>
<p> </p>
<p>• Chapters •</p>
<p>00:00 - Intro<br>
 00:59 – The history of Aalyria<br>
 02:47 – Aalyria's Spacetime<br>
 06:09 – Building the connective software stack that links all of Aalyria's technology together<br>
 07:12 – The non-geostationary network problem<br>
 11:12 – The rebirth of Loon Technology<br>
 14:50 – How Tightbeam ties in to Aalyria<br>
 17:21 – 100gb/s through the atmosphere<br>
 19:42 – Brian's mandate as CTO when Aalyria forms<br>
 20:37 – State of Tightbeam at formation of Aalyria<br>
 22:17 – Why can't other companies do what Spacetime does yet?<br>
 26:05 – The significance of having different architectures with different source codes talk to each<br>
 other without modification<br>
 28:21 – How Aalyria integrates a new customer's network<br>
 31:05 – What is a long distance for Tightbeam and customer reaction to demos<br>
 32:48 – Who has Aalyria surprised the most with their demos?<br>
 34:28 – What has prevented the government from making a network of networks?<br>
 39:14 – Why wouldn't a space version of the Tightbeam terminal not work?<br>
 42:01 – How Aalyria is thinking about customer adopting Tightbeam<br>
 45:15 – Aalyria in the defense industry<br>
 47:05 – Aalyria's commercial aspects<br>
 48:30 – Aalyria's latest investment round<br>
 51:39 – Next milestones<br>
 53:00 – What keeps Brian up at night?<br>
 54:00 – Longterm vision for Aalyria<br>
 56:16 – What does Brian do for fun?<br>
  </p>
<p>• Show notes •</p>
<p>Aalyria’s website — https://www.aalyria.com/<br>
 Mo's socials — https://x.com/itsmoislam<br>
 Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace<br>
 Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear / <br>
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/<br>
 Tectonic’s socials  — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/<br>
 Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/<br>
  </p>
<p>• About us •</p>
<p>Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.</p>
<ul>
 <li>Payload: <a href="http://www.payloadspace.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">www.payloadspace.com</a></li>
 <li>Tectonic: <a href="http://www.tectonicdefense.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">www.tectonicdefense.com</a></li>
 <li>Ignition: <a href="http://www.ignition-news.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">www.ignition-news.com</a></li>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Valley of Depth, we dive into Aalyria’s newly announced $100 million raise at a $1.3 billion valuation with cofounder and CTO Brian Barritt and unpack why investors are betting big on the future of networks that don’t sit still.</p>
<p>Aalyria is building two core technologies born inside Google: Spacetime, a software orchestration layer designed to manage networks in motion, and Tightbeam, a laser communications system delivering fiber-like speeds through the atmosphere. Together, they aim to solve one of the hardest infrastructure challenges in aerospace and defense: how to coordinate satellites, aircraft, drones, ships, and ground systems into a seamless “network of networks.”</p>
<p>The conversation spans laser physics, diffraction challenges in space-to-ground links, feeder link bottlenecks in mega-constellations, and why routing data across moving infrastructure is fundamentally different than routing across fixed networks.</p>
<p>We cover:</p>
<ul>
 <li>Why Aalyria’s $100M raise signals a shift from R&D to deployment</li>
 <li>What “network in motion” really means and why it’s so hard</li>
 <li>How laser communications can reach 100 gigabits per second through atmosphere</li>
 <li>The technical challenge of Earth-to-space vs. space-to-Earth optical links</li>
 <li>Why interoperability has been a 40-year ambition inside the DoD</li>
 <li>How open APIs could become the connective tissue for JADC2 and beyond</li>
 <li>What resilience and roaming look like in hybrid satellite architectures</li>
 <li>Why optical ground stations require orchestration software to scale</li>
</ul>
<p> </p>
<p>• Chapters •</p>
<p>00:00 - Intro<br>
 00:59 – The history of Aalyria<br>
 02:47 – Aalyria's Spacetime<br>
 06:09 – Building the connective software stack that links all of Aalyria's technology together<br>
 07:12 – The non-geostationary network problem<br>
 11:12 – The rebirth of Loon Technology<br>
 14:50 – How Tightbeam ties in to Aalyria<br>
 17:21 – 100gb/s through the atmosphere<br>
 19:42 – Brian's mandate as CTO when Aalyria forms<br>
 20:37 – State of Tightbeam at formation of Aalyria<br>
 22:17 – Why can't other companies do what Spacetime does yet?<br>
 26:05 – The significance of having different architectures with different source codes talk to each<br>
 other without modification<br>
 28:21 – How Aalyria integrates a new customer's network<br>
 31:05 – What is a long distance for Tightbeam and customer reaction to demos<br>
 32:48 – Who has Aalyria surprised the most with their demos?<br>
 34:28 – What has prevented the government from making a network of networks?<br>
 39:14 – Why wouldn't a space version of the Tightbeam terminal not work?<br>
 42:01 – How Aalyria is thinking about customer adopting Tightbeam<br>
 45:15 – Aalyria in the defense industry<br>
 47:05 – Aalyria's commercial aspects<br>
 48:30 – Aalyria's latest investment round<br>
 51:39 – Next milestones<br>
 53:00 – What keeps Brian up at night?<br>
 54:00 – Longterm vision for Aalyria<br>
 56:16 – What does Brian do for fun?<br>
  </p>
<p>• Show notes •</p>
<p>Aalyria’s website — https://www.aalyria.com/<br>
 Mo's socials — https://x.com/itsmoislam<br>
 Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace<br>
 Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear / <br>
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/<br>
 Tectonic’s socials  — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/<br>
 Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/<br>
  </p>
<p>• About us •</p>
<p>Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.</p>
<ul>
 <li>Payload: <a href="http://www.payloadspace.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">www.payloadspace.com</a></li>
 <li>Tectonic: <a href="http://www.tectonicdefense.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">www.tectonicdefense.com</a></li>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Valley of Depth, we sit down with David Tearse, co-founder and CEO of Karman Industries, to explore a piece of the AI boom that rarely gets attention: thermal infrastructure.</p><p>As hyperscale data centers grow into multi-gigawatt “AI factories,” the limiting factor is no longer just chips or capital — it’s how efficiently we can move and reject heat. David explains how Karman’s Heat Processing Unit (HPU) reimagines cooling from first principles, bringing aerospace-grade turbomachinery and modern power electronics to a decidedly unglamorous but critical layer of the AI stack.</p><p>The conversation moves from the physics of heat to the politics of data centers, and ultimately to why thermal efficiency may become a quiet national security advantage.</p><p>We discuss:</p><ul><li>Why thermal management—not chips—may be the next bottleneck in the AI stack</li><li>How Karman’s HPU replaces traditional chillers and dry coolers outside the data center</li><li>How much additional compute Karman can unlock from the same power input</li><li>Why CO₂ refrigerant de-risks data center builds from a regulatory standpoint</li><li>How Karman thinks about reliability, uptime, and “aerospace-style” engineering</li><li>Why data centers are becoming a national security issue</li><li>Where Karman could expand beyond data centers—nuclear, geothermal, and beyond</li></ul><p>…and much more.</p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 – Intro<br />00:51 – Elara Nova ad<br />01:21 – Karman Industries mascot<br />02:28 – How would David describe himself?<br />05:01 – The original insight that became Karman Industries<br />06:31 – What do people underestimate about thermal management?<br />07:26 – The story behind the name<br />08:21 – How David and co-founder CJ Karla ended up working together<br />11:15 – Why is now the right time to be solving thermal management?<br />15:13 – Where does the heat go today?<br />16:31 – Energy usage for compute vs cooling<br />17:32 – Energy Savings with Karman's heat processing units (HPUs)<br />18:05 – Why C02?<br />20:48 – Replacing vs integration<br />21:37 – Regulatory side<br />24:42 – Karman's customer pipeline<br />26:33 – Reliability<br />28:59 – Engineering challenges<br />30:39 – What comes next for Karman<br />31:55 – Is thermal management a national security issue?<br />33:21 – David's thoughts on rerouting heat<br />36:23 – HPUs in space<br />37:58 – The company culture that allows for building relaiable solutions quickly<br />44:35 – Milestones for Karman in the next couple of years<br />47:00 – What does David do for fun?<br /> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Karman’s website —<a href="https://www.karmanindustries.com/">https://www.karmanindustries.com/</a></p><p>David’s socials — https://x.com/7earse</p><p>Mo's socials — https://x.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear / </p><p>https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/</p><p>Tectonic’s socials  — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/</p><p>Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.</p><ul><li>Payload: <a href="http://www.payloadspace.com">www.payloadspace.com</a></li><li>Tectonic: <a href="http://www.tectonicdefense.com">www.tectonicdefense.com</a></li><li>Ignition: <a href="http://www.ignition-news.com">www.ignition-news.com</a></li></ul>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2026 02:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Valley of Depth, we sit down with David Tearse, co-founder and CEO of Karman Industries, to explore a piece of the AI boom that rarely gets attention: thermal infrastructure.</p><p>As hyperscale data centers grow into multi-gigawatt “AI factories,” the limiting factor is no longer just chips or capital — it’s how efficiently we can move and reject heat. David explains how Karman’s Heat Processing Unit (HPU) reimagines cooling from first principles, bringing aerospace-grade turbomachinery and modern power electronics to a decidedly unglamorous but critical layer of the AI stack.</p><p>The conversation moves from the physics of heat to the politics of data centers, and ultimately to why thermal efficiency may become a quiet national security advantage.</p><p>We discuss:</p><ul><li>Why thermal management—not chips—may be the next bottleneck in the AI stack</li><li>How Karman’s HPU replaces traditional chillers and dry coolers outside the data center</li><li>How much additional compute Karman can unlock from the same power input</li><li>Why CO₂ refrigerant de-risks data center builds from a regulatory standpoint</li><li>How Karman thinks about reliability, uptime, and “aerospace-style” engineering</li><li>Why data centers are becoming a national security issue</li><li>Where Karman could expand beyond data centers—nuclear, geothermal, and beyond</li></ul><p>…and much more.</p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 – Intro<br />00:51 – Elara Nova ad<br />01:21 – Karman Industries mascot<br />02:28 – How would David describe himself?<br />05:01 – The original insight that became Karman Industries<br />06:31 – What do people underestimate about thermal management?<br />07:26 – The story behind the name<br />08:21 – How David and co-founder CJ Karla ended up working together<br />11:15 – Why is now the right time to be solving thermal management?<br />15:13 – Where does the heat go today?<br />16:31 – Energy usage for compute vs cooling<br />17:32 – Energy Savings with Karman's heat processing units (HPUs)<br />18:05 – Why C02?<br />20:48 – Replacing vs integration<br />21:37 – Regulatory side<br />24:42 – Karman's customer pipeline<br />26:33 – Reliability<br />28:59 – Engineering challenges<br />30:39 – What comes next for Karman<br />31:55 – Is thermal management a national security issue?<br />33:21 – David's thoughts on rerouting heat<br />36:23 – HPUs in space<br />37:58 – The company culture that allows for building relaiable solutions quickly<br />44:35 – Milestones for Karman in the next couple of years<br />47:00 – What does David do for fun?<br /> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Karman’s website —<a href="https://www.karmanindustries.com/">https://www.karmanindustries.com/</a></p><p>David’s socials — https://x.com/7earse</p><p>Mo's socials — https://x.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear / </p><p>https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/</p><p>Tectonic’s socials  — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/</p><p>Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.</p><ul><li>Payload: <a href="http://www.payloadspace.com">www.payloadspace.com</a></li><li>Tectonic: <a href="http://www.tectonicdefense.com">www.tectonicdefense.com</a></li><li>Ignition: <a href="http://www.ignition-news.com">www.ignition-news.com</a></li></ul>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of <i>Valley of Depth</i>, we sit down with Jack Kuhr, Payload Pro’s Research Director, to unpack what SpaceX has become on the eve of what could be the largest IPO in history. What began as a launch company has evolved into a vertically integrated platform spanning launch, satellites, global connectivity, and potentially AI and compute in space.This is the first in a series of conversations where we’ll regularly update our audience on the latest developments shaping SpaceX and its impact on the broader space economy.</p><p>We discuss:</p><ul><li>How Starlink has overtaken launch as SpaceX’s primary growth engine</li><li>Why Starlink’s constraints are more likely terminals, regulation, and physics—not satellites</li><li>How international markets are powering the next phase of Starlink’s expansion</li><li>Why aviation and maritime are the most underappreciated Starlink verticals</li><li>Whether Starlink “Lite” can meaningfully take share from traditional ISPs</li><li>How Starship and Starlink V3 could upend Falcon 9 economics</li><li>Why the SpaceX–xAI merger points to a fully integrated space, connectivity, and AI stack</li></ul><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro<br />01:09 - Jack's role at Payload and what is it<br />04:06 - Jack's revenue model for SpaceX<br />08:06 - Launch and Starlink<br />09:23 - Is SpaceX privatizing launch or is there less demand?<br />12:07 - Starlink's current revenue runway trajectory<br />14:31 - 2026 projects and potential growth pains<br />16:41 - Starlink constraints<br />19:00 - US vs international customers<br />19:53 - Starlink terminal sales<br />21:10 - What is currently under appreciated about Starlink's verticals?<br />22:52 - Starlink Light<br />24:34 - Competition from GEO broadband providers<br />33:07 - Starship<br />34:45 - When will Starlink launch their first commercial, non Starlink payloads<br />38:22 - Is SpaceX serious about space based data centers?<br />42:06 - SpaceX x Tesla x xAI</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Payload Pro’s website — https://pro.payloadspace.com/<br />Jack’s socials — https://x.com/JackKuhr<br />Mo's socials — https://x.com/itsmoislam<br />Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace<br />Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear / <br />https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/<br />Tectonic’s socials — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/<br />Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/<br /> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.</p><ul><li>Payload: <a href="http://www.payloadspace.com">www.payloadspace.com</a></li><li>Tectonic: <a href="http://www.tectonicdefense.com">www.tectonicdefense.com</a></li><li>Ignition: <a href="http://www.ignition-news.com">www.ignition-news.com</a></li></ul>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 4 Feb 2026 02:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of <i>Valley of Depth</i>, we sit down with Jack Kuhr, Payload Pro’s Research Director, to unpack what SpaceX has become on the eve of what could be the largest IPO in history. What began as a launch company has evolved into a vertically integrated platform spanning launch, satellites, global connectivity, and potentially AI and compute in space.This is the first in a series of conversations where we’ll regularly update our audience on the latest developments shaping SpaceX and its impact on the broader space economy.</p><p>We discuss:</p><ul><li>How Starlink has overtaken launch as SpaceX’s primary growth engine</li><li>Why Starlink’s constraints are more likely terminals, regulation, and physics—not satellites</li><li>How international markets are powering the next phase of Starlink’s expansion</li><li>Why aviation and maritime are the most underappreciated Starlink verticals</li><li>Whether Starlink “Lite” can meaningfully take share from traditional ISPs</li><li>How Starship and Starlink V3 could upend Falcon 9 economics</li><li>Why the SpaceX–xAI merger points to a fully integrated space, connectivity, and AI stack</li></ul><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro<br />01:09 - Jack's role at Payload and what is it<br />04:06 - Jack's revenue model for SpaceX<br />08:06 - Launch and Starlink<br />09:23 - Is SpaceX privatizing launch or is there less demand?<br />12:07 - Starlink's current revenue runway trajectory<br />14:31 - 2026 projects and potential growth pains<br />16:41 - Starlink constraints<br />19:00 - US vs international customers<br />19:53 - Starlink terminal sales<br />21:10 - What is currently under appreciated about Starlink's verticals?<br />22:52 - Starlink Light<br />24:34 - Competition from GEO broadband providers<br />33:07 - Starship<br />34:45 - When will Starlink launch their first commercial, non Starlink payloads<br />38:22 - Is SpaceX serious about space based data centers?<br />42:06 - SpaceX x Tesla x xAI</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Payload Pro’s website — https://pro.payloadspace.com/<br />Jack’s socials — https://x.com/JackKuhr<br />Mo's socials — https://x.com/itsmoislam<br />Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace<br />Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear / <br />https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/<br />Tectonic’s socials — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/<br />Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/<br /> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.</p><ul><li>Payload: <a href="http://www.payloadspace.com">www.payloadspace.com</a></li><li>Tectonic: <a href="http://www.tectonicdefense.com">www.tectonicdefense.com</a></li><li>Ignition: <a href="http://www.ignition-news.com">www.ignition-news.com</a></li></ul>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>We’re excited to launch a very special edition of Valley of Depth, recorded live from the historic vault deep beneath the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE). Going forward, we’ll be returning to the NYSE each month to host a series of conversations from the heart of global capital markets with the leaders building the next generation of critical infrastructure.</p><p>In this installment, we sit down with John Serafini, CEO of Hawkeye 360, a company quietly reshaping how governments see and understand the world. While many space companies focus on imagery or communications, Hawkeye 360 is doing something different: listening. By mapping radio-frequency emissions from orbit, the company is turning invisible signals into actionable intelligence, revealing patterns of human behavior that imagery alone can’t capture.</p><p>We discuss:</p><ul><li>How space-based RF mapping changes what “global transparency” actually means</li><li>Why signals intelligence is uniquely tied to human activity and intent</li><li>How Hawkeye’s multi-satellite architecture enables precise geolocation at scale</li><li>What it takes to detect dark vessels, GPS jamming, and spoofing in near real time</li><li>Why RF data, software, and proprietary signal libraries form a durable competitive moat</li><li>How commercial SIGINT is becoming core infrastructure for governments globally</li></ul><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro<br />00:58 - What makes Hawkeye 360's satellites so special?<br />02:45 - Why is having RF capability important today<br />04:51 - What were the limitations of RF satellites before now?<br />06:38 - Why are there so few companies in the RF space?<br />08:35 - What Hawkeye is able to detect<br />13:46 - Satellites in a trio formation<br />17:21 - Fingerprinting points of interest<br />18:14 - What can Hawkeye 360 track?<br />21:33 - GPS jamming and spoofing<br />22:19 - How John got into this business<br />24:37 - Market size for RF capability<br />28:00 - Data licenses<br />30:56 - Next steps for Hawkeye's revisit rate<br />32:33 - China's capabilities<br />33:17 - Why did Hawkeye 360 acquire Innovative Signal Analysis (ISA)?<br />34:28 - Buy vs build<br />36:43 - John's stance on datacenters in space<br />37:55 - Investor confidence around Hawkeye<br />39:50 - The impact of SpaceX going public<br />42:02 - Is 2026 the year Hawkeye goes public?<br />44:59 - Will countries start building RF shields?<br />45:39 - Ultimate goal of Hawkeye</p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Hawkeye’s website — https://www.he360.com/<br />Hawkeye’s socials — https://x.com/hawkeye360<br />Mo's socials — https://x.com/itsmoislam<br />Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace<br />Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear / <br />https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/<br />Tectonic’s socials  — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/<br />Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/</p><p>• About us •</p><p>Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.</p><ul><li>Payload: <a href="http://www.payloadspace.com">www.payloadspace.com</a></li><li>Tectonic: <a href="http://www.tectonicdefense.com">www.tectonicdefense.com</a></li><li>Ignition: <a href="http://www.ignition-news.com">www.ignition-news.com</a></li></ul>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re excited to launch a very special edition of Valley of Depth, recorded live from the historic vault deep beneath the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE). Going forward, we’ll be returning to the NYSE each month to host a series of conversations from the heart of global capital markets with the leaders building the next generation of critical infrastructure.</p><p>In this installment, we sit down with John Serafini, CEO of Hawkeye 360, a company quietly reshaping how governments see and understand the world. While many space companies focus on imagery or communications, Hawkeye 360 is doing something different: listening. By mapping radio-frequency emissions from orbit, the company is turning invisible signals into actionable intelligence, revealing patterns of human behavior that imagery alone can’t capture.</p><p>We discuss:</p><ul><li>How space-based RF mapping changes what “global transparency” actually means</li><li>Why signals intelligence is uniquely tied to human activity and intent</li><li>How Hawkeye’s multi-satellite architecture enables precise geolocation at scale</li><li>What it takes to detect dark vessels, GPS jamming, and spoofing in near real time</li><li>Why RF data, software, and proprietary signal libraries form a durable competitive moat</li><li>How commercial SIGINT is becoming core infrastructure for governments globally</li></ul><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro<br />00:58 - What makes Hawkeye 360's satellites so special?<br />02:45 - Why is having RF capability important today<br />04:51 - What were the limitations of RF satellites before now?<br />06:38 - Why are there so few companies in the RF space?<br />08:35 - What Hawkeye is able to detect<br />13:46 - Satellites in a trio formation<br />17:21 - Fingerprinting points of interest<br />18:14 - What can Hawkeye 360 track?<br />21:33 - GPS jamming and spoofing<br />22:19 - How John got into this business<br />24:37 - Market size for RF capability<br />28:00 - Data licenses<br />30:56 - Next steps for Hawkeye's revisit rate<br />32:33 - China's capabilities<br />33:17 - Why did Hawkeye 360 acquire Innovative Signal Analysis (ISA)?<br />34:28 - Buy vs build<br />36:43 - John's stance on datacenters in space<br />37:55 - Investor confidence around Hawkeye<br />39:50 - The impact of SpaceX going public<br />42:02 - Is 2026 the year Hawkeye goes public?<br />44:59 - Will countries start building RF shields?<br />45:39 - Ultimate goal of Hawkeye</p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Hawkeye’s website — https://www.he360.com/<br />Hawkeye’s socials — https://x.com/hawkeye360<br />Mo's socials — https://x.com/itsmoislam<br />Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace<br />Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear / <br />https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/<br />Tectonic’s socials  — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/<br />Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/</p><p>• About us •</p><p>Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.</p><ul><li>Payload: <a href="http://www.payloadspace.com">www.payloadspace.com</a></li><li>Tectonic: <a href="http://www.tectonicdefense.com">www.tectonicdefense.com</a></li><li>Ignition: <a href="http://www.ignition-news.com">www.ignition-news.com</a></li></ul>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2026 02:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>mo@arkaeamedia.com (Arkaea Media (Payload | Ignition | Tectonic))</author>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>As more nations realize that space is no longer just a scientific domain but a foundation of economic power and national security, a new question is emerging: who will actually build the infrastructure that underpins it? Orbitworks believes the answer lies in sovereign capability: designed locally, manufactured locally, and operated with speed and control.</p><p>Founded by Hamdullah Mohib, a former national security advisor and diplomat who spent years operating at the highest levels of geopolitics, Orbitworks sits at an unusual intersection of statecraft and space manufacturing. Based in Abu Dhabi, the company is building one of the region’s first commercial satellite manufacturing facilities and developing Altair, a native constellation designed to move beyond raw imagery and toward information-driven services for both sovereign and commercial customers.</p><p>We discuss:</p><ul><li>How Orbitworks is building a commercial satellite industry from scratch in the UAE</li><li>The strategic logic behind flexible architectures over fixed hardware</li><li>How the Middle East is positioning itself as a serious node in the global space economy</li><li>What it takes to build talent, supply chains, and culture in a brand-new space ecosystem</li></ul><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro<br />00:59 - Hamdullah's journey from government and geopolitics to space<br />05:11 - What is Orbitworks?<br />06:25 - Partnerships with Orbitworks<br />08:43 - A joint venture<br />09:40 - Partnering with Loft Orbital<br />17:09 - Differences that founders experience in the Middle East<br />21:26 - Altair constellation<br />23:29 - Dual use commercial and government<br />26:34 - Building a facility in KEZAD<br />33:02 - Cultivating and nurturing talent<br />34:30 - How the Middle East is thinking about space<br />40:21 - Priorities of sovereign wealth funds<br />42:33 - Lessons in leadership<br />47:08 - Fundraising plans/goals<br />48:47 - Hamdullah's vision for space in the Middle East<br />50:46 - What excites Hamdullah the most about the space industry?<br /> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Orbitwork’s website —https://www.orbitworks.space/</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear / </p><p>https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/</p><p>Tectonic’s socials  — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/</p><p>Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/</p><p><br /> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.</p><ul><li>Payload: <a href="http://www.payloadspace.com">www.payloadspace.com</a></li><li>Ignition: <a href="http://www.ignition-news.com">www.ignition-news.com</a></li><li>Tectonic: <a href="http://www.tectonicdefense.com">www.tectonicdefense.com</a></li></ul>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2026 02:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>We're back to kick off 2026!</p><p>While the world debates how to power the next era of compute, data centers, and industrial growth, Overview Energy is betting the answer is above us. The company is building infrastructure to beam power from space directly to Earth's grid.</p><p>Founded by Marc Berte, a nuclear and aerospace engineer who spent his career at the intersection of lasers, spacecraft, and high-energy systems, Overview is developing a constellation of satellites in geosynchronous orbit that absorb sunlight, convert it to near-infrared laser light, and transmit it to existing utility-scale solar projects on the ground. No new receivers required. By using wide-beam, passively safe transmission and off-the-shelf ground infrastructure, Overview aims to deliver dispatchable, redirectable power anywhere on the planet, turning space solar from science fiction into grid-scale reality.</p><p>We discuss:</p><ul><li>Why space solar energy is finally viable after decades of false starts</li><li>How Overview's architecture avoids the in-space assembly problem entirely</li><li>How the economics work: matching cost curves to high-price markets first</li><li>Why GEO matters more than LEO for grid-scale power delivery</li><li>The role of launch cost as the critical external variable</li><li>Why space solar could be the demand flywheel that drives launch costs down for everyone</li></ul><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro<br />00:48 - The main problem Overview Energy is solving and why now<br />04:34 - Why didn’t Marc pursue nuclear fusion/fission?<br />05:34 - Incubated in Vast<br />06:32 - State of the art today?<br />09:58 - Acquisition and beaming down of solar energy and its efficiency<br />12:23 - Safety, regulatory, and precision constraints<br />14:54 - Competitive positioning in space solar power<br />16:20 - Economics of orbital energy vs terrestrial renewables<br />19:25 - How much more should someone be paying for orbital energy<br />23:46 - Who will be their first customers?<br />25:39 - What does the infrastructure look like?<br />27:39 - Biggest bottleneck for orbital energy<br />29:34 - Are current launch costs at the level needed for Overview Energy to kick off?<br />30:27 - Commercial traction<br />31:46 - Testing and evaluating these systems with the DoD and NASA<br />33:38 - Early demonstrations and proof points<br />35:21 - Overview Energy’s space-based demonstration<br />36:22 - Chinese competition<br />38:30 - How much more investment is needed to achieve the first gigawatt of power from space?<br />40:42 - Can terrestrial renewables meet power demands without space-based energy<br />43:41 - Grid of the future with orbital power in the picture<br />44:50 - The technical unknowns of orbital energy<br />48:24 - Powering other space assets<br />49:46 - What Marc is building when he’s not working at Overview Energy<br /> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Overview Energy’s website — https://www.overviewenergy.com/<br />Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam<br />Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace<br />Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear / <br />https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/<br />Tectonic’s socials  — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/<br />Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/</p><p>• About us •</p><p>Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.</p><ul><li>Payload: <a href="http://www.payloadspace.com">www.payloadspace.com</a></li><li>Ignition: <a href="http://www.ignition-news.com">www.ignition-news.com</a></li><li>Tectonic: <a href="http://www.tectonicdefense.com">www.tectonicdefense.com</a></li></ul>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We're back to kick off 2026!</p><p>While the world debates how to power the next era of compute, data centers, and industrial growth, Overview Energy is betting the answer is above us. The company is building infrastructure to beam power from space directly to Earth's grid.</p><p>Founded by Marc Berte, a nuclear and aerospace engineer who spent his career at the intersection of lasers, spacecraft, and high-energy systems, Overview is developing a constellation of satellites in geosynchronous orbit that absorb sunlight, convert it to near-infrared laser light, and transmit it to existing utility-scale solar projects on the ground. No new receivers required. By using wide-beam, passively safe transmission and off-the-shelf ground infrastructure, Overview aims to deliver dispatchable, redirectable power anywhere on the planet, turning space solar from science fiction into grid-scale reality.</p><p>We discuss:</p><ul><li>Why space solar energy is finally viable after decades of false starts</li><li>How Overview's architecture avoids the in-space assembly problem entirely</li><li>How the economics work: matching cost curves to high-price markets first</li><li>Why GEO matters more than LEO for grid-scale power delivery</li><li>The role of launch cost as the critical external variable</li><li>Why space solar could be the demand flywheel that drives launch costs down for everyone</li></ul><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro<br />00:48 - The main problem Overview Energy is solving and why now<br />04:34 - Why didn’t Marc pursue nuclear fusion/fission?<br />05:34 - Incubated in Vast<br />06:32 - State of the art today?<br />09:58 - Acquisition and beaming down of solar energy and its efficiency<br />12:23 - Safety, regulatory, and precision constraints<br />14:54 - Competitive positioning in space solar power<br />16:20 - Economics of orbital energy vs terrestrial renewables<br />19:25 - How much more should someone be paying for orbital energy<br />23:46 - Who will be their first customers?<br />25:39 - What does the infrastructure look like?<br />27:39 - Biggest bottleneck for orbital energy<br />29:34 - Are current launch costs at the level needed for Overview Energy to kick off?<br />30:27 - Commercial traction<br />31:46 - Testing and evaluating these systems with the DoD and NASA<br />33:38 - Early demonstrations and proof points<br />35:21 - Overview Energy’s space-based demonstration<br />36:22 - Chinese competition<br />38:30 - How much more investment is needed to achieve the first gigawatt of power from space?<br />40:42 - Can terrestrial renewables meet power demands without space-based energy<br />43:41 - Grid of the future with orbital power in the picture<br />44:50 - The technical unknowns of orbital energy<br />48:24 - Powering other space assets<br />49:46 - What Marc is building when he’s not working at Overview Energy<br /> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Overview Energy’s website — https://www.overviewenergy.com/<br />Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam<br />Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace<br />Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear / <br />https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/<br />Tectonic’s socials  — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/<br />Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/</p><p>• About us •</p><p>Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.</p><ul><li>Payload: <a href="http://www.payloadspace.com">www.payloadspace.com</a></li><li>Ignition: <a href="http://www.ignition-news.com">www.ignition-news.com</a></li><li>Tectonic: <a href="http://www.tectonicdefense.com">www.tectonicdefense.com</a></li></ul>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Kerry Wisnosky believes the future of space power will be decided by maneuverability. As satellites remain largely static, Quantum Space is building the infrastructure to move, persist, and operate across orbits, from LEO to cislunar space.</p><p>The company is developing Ranger, a six-metric-ton, high-delta-V spacecraft designed to operate for up to 15 years, host and deploy payloads, maneuver freely between orbits, and function as a refueling node. By combining chemical and electric propulsion into a single multimode system, Quantum aims to deliver both high-impulse mobility and long-duration efficiency—turning spacecraft from disposable assets into persistent infrastructure.</p><p>Inside the episode:</p><ul><li>Why space remains a static domain and why maneuverability is the next decisive advantage</li><li>How Ranger reframes satellites from disposable assets into long-lived infrastructure</li><li>The strategic importance of fuel in orbit and why refueling changes mission economics</li><li>Why multimode propulsion is the “holy grail” for mobility across orbits</li><li>How life extension in GEO becomes the first commercial wedge</li><li>What zone defense in space could mean for missile defense architectures</li><li>Why Quantum was early to the market and why demand is finally catching up</li></ul><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 – Intro<br />00:45 – From Millennium to Quantum Space<br />02:56 – Key products at Millennium<br />03:57 – Evolution of Quantum's vision over the years<br />06:34 – Ranger<br />13:41 – 15 years of operational life<br />16:22 – Acquiring Phase Four<br />22:25 – Orbital mobility<br />23:37 – Ranger doubling as a fuel depot<br />25:51 – Target customers for Ranger<br />30:52 – Interceptors in space for Golden Dome<br />33:52 – Quantum Space's competitive edge<br />35:27 – Are other maneuverability companies viewing the problem the wrong way?<br />37:18 – Quantum Space's launches<br />39:24 – What does success look like for Quantum's first Ranger mission?<br />40:21 – Scaling and manufacturing<br />43:53 – Why should talent work at Quantum?<br />45:14 – Quantum Space in 5 years<br />47:35 – What did Kerry not expect while building Quantum?<br />48:49 – When is Quantum's next launch?</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Quantum Space’s website — https://www.quantumspace.us/<br />Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam<br />Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace<br />Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear /  <br />https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/<br />Tectonic’s socials  — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/<br />Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.</p><ul><li>Payload: www.payloadspace.com</li><li>Ignition: www.ignition-news.com</li><li>Tectonic: www.tectonicdefense.com</li></ul>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2025 02:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Halen Mattison left SpaceX because Elon told him his vision was too long-term. He wanted to build the propellant infrastructure that would unlock Mars and everything between here and there, but the timeline didn't fit SpaceX's roadmap. So he started General Galactic to do it himself.</p><p>His team is developing Genesis, a water electrolysis propulsion system that delivers hydrazine-level thrust and xenon-level efficiency using the safest, cheapest, most abundant propellant in the solar system. The company is targeting an orbital demonstration in 2026, with a long-term vision to operate refueling depots from LEO to Mars.</p><p> </p><p>Inside the episode:</p><ul><li>• Why the space industry's fear of new technology is creating a sitting-duck opportunity</li><li>How water electrolysis unlocks both near-term mobility services and long-term ISRU infrastructure</li><li>What "specific impulse" actually means for mission economics and why it matters more than people think</li><li>The Starship refueling challenge and why cryogenic propellant depots will work at scale</li><li>Sequencing from mobility-as-a-service to lunar fuel production to gas stations on Mars</li><li>Why consensus-following investors miss the most ambitious bets and how to tell the contrarian story</li></ul><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 – Intro<br />01:11 – When did Halen decide to start his own company?<br />02:18 – What did Halen do at SpaceX?<br />02:59 – Deciding moment to devote to a career in aerospace<br />05:16 – The current state and trajectory of Starship<br />07:53 – What is General Galactic building?<br />09:50 – General Galactic's products and end goals<br />12:12 – General Galactic's perspective shift on mobility in space<br />16:31 – Architecture vs the current market offerings<br />21:39 – Why is now the time to build a water electrolysis system?<br />24:27 – Genesis<br />25:42 – Hardware in space<br />26:19 – What would a General Galactic demonstration mission look like?<br />27:13 – What would product 1 look like?<br />28:15 – Mission capability unlocks and cost advantage<br />30:56 – Offering a service<br />31:27 – Origin and evolution of General Galactic<br />34:59 – Space companies that sequence well outside of SpaceX<br />36:06 – 4-year prediction if mobility gets adopted<br />38:39 – Misunderstandings about Starship's refueling logistics<br />42:01 – Where would General Galactic fit in the Starship ecosystem?<br />43:25 – What a v0.1 Mars gas station would look like<br />44:46 – How difficult is it to protect General Galactic's position with water electrolysis?<br />46:22 – Lessons from being a founder<br />49:30 – Sequencing</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>General Galactic’s website — https://gengalactic.com/<br />Halen’s socials — https://x.com/HalenMattison<br />Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam<br />Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace<br />Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear /  <br />https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/<br />Tectonic’s socials  — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/<br />Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.</p><ul><li>Payload: www.payloadspace.com</li><li>Ignition: www.ignition-news.com</li><li>Tectonic: www.tectonicdefense.com</li></ul>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Space has a power problem. Satellites need more electricity and better protection, yet solar arrays are slow to build and failure-prone, and shielding adds mass and complexity. Atomic-6 is tackling both sides at once.</p><p>Our guest this week is Trevor Smith, founder and CEO of Atomic-6. His team is building Light Wing, a redeployable, mass-manufacturable solar array aimed at higher watts per kilogram and faster delivery, and Space Armor, an RF-permeable debris shield designed to stop hypervelocity impacts while preserving comms and resisting directed energy. The company’s first on-orbit hardware is slated for February 2026, and they’re pursuing multi-billion-dollar constellation opportunities alongside a long-term purchase agreement with a private space-station builder.</p><p>Inside the episode:</p><ul><li>Why reliability, not just power density, wins satellite programs</li><li>How a space power gigafactory could reset constellation economics</li><li>What “cell-agnostic” really means for supply chain and performance</li><li>The new “radome for space” capability and where it matters for defense</li><li>Cislunar prospects, lunar-orbit data centers, and vertical solar towers</li><li>Lessons from working with Space Force and navigating dual-use funding</li><li>The state of the U.S. industrial base and why solar arrays are a top supply-chain priority</li></ul><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 – Intro<br />00:47 – How Atomic-6 got started<br />03:06 – Building the power grid for space<br />04:09 – Why is Atomic-6 building what it's building<br />05:58 – Dollars per watt per kilo<br />07:18 – Cell agnostic<br />07:58 – How Trevor got into the space industry<br />09:14 – Team construction at Atomic-6<br />09:49 – What type of people is Atomic-6 looking for?<br />10:35 – Atomic-6's key product offering<br />10:58 – Current customers and opportunities at Atomic-6<br />11:38 – Pipeline<br />13:07 – Manufacturing scaling<br />14:04 – How much is an operator spending on solar arrays?<br />15:12 – Who would we go to today for building a satellite array and what would they be missing?<br />16:33 – Space Armor<br />19:44 – What is a radome?<br />20:34 – Whipple Shield deployment<br />21:11 – Significance of being transparent to radio signals<br />21:41 – Terrestrial applications for the Whipple Shield<br />23:24 – How Atomic-6 came to developing the Whipple Shield<br />24:48 – Opportunity vs Light Wing and Space Armor<br />25:38 – Defense traction with Space Armor<br />26:52 – Atomic-6's business model<br />29:17 – Milestones<br />30:35 – Vertical integration<br />32:34 – Other products that Atomic-6 is developing<br />33:42 – Developments in advanced materials that will define architecture in space<br />36:18 – What does success look like for Atomic-6 in 5 to 10 years?<br />36:59 – What keeps Trevor up at night?<br />38:05 – Government support<br />40:17 – The legacy Trevor wants Atomic-6 to leave behind</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Atomic-6’s website — https://www.atomic-6.com/</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear /  </p><p>https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/</p><p>Tectonic’s socials  — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/</p><p>Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.</p><ul><li>Payload: www.payloadspace.com</li><li>Ignition: www.ignition-news.com</li><li>Tectonic: www.tectonicdefense.com</li></ul>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Spacecraft carry all kinds of sensors, but rarely the one humans rely on most: video. Despite offering the richest insight per watt, gram, and dollar, cameras have been largely absent from orbit.That’s what TRL11 is out to change. The company is building radiation-tolerant optics, edge computers that process and compress video in real time, and ground software that turns footage into operational awareness.</p><p> </p><p>On this episode of Valley of Depth, I’m joined by Nicolaas Verheem, founder and CEO of TRL11. Nicolaas shares how his journey from pioneering wireless video at Teradek, work that won both technical Academy and Emmy Awards, led him to ask why space was still flying blind. We trace TRL11’s path from early in-orbit demos to commercial traction with operators and defense, and dig into how edge intelligence and video awareness could transform the space economy.</p><p> </p><p>We also discuss:</p><ul><li>• Why video is the “missing sensor” in space</li><li>• Lessons from TRL11’s first orbital missions</li><li>The three core use cases: health monitoring, mission awareness, and mission enablement</li><li>• How software, not hardware, creates a lasting moat in space video</li><li>• The long-term vision of human-like awareness in space</li></ul><p>…and more.</p><p> </p><p>• Chapters •<br />01:03 – Nicol and Starwars and Startrek<br />03:10 – Nicol winning an Academy Award and an Emmy<br />04:14 – Nicol at Teradek<br />05:13 – How Teradek inspired Nicol's current company TRL11<br />06:30 – How video applies to the space industry<br />09:41 – Why do we need video and what problem does it solve?<br />12:56 – A ring camera for space<br />17:06 – The story behind the company name<br />19:32 – TRL11's current product offerings<br />21:43 – Showing the operator what matters on screen<br />24:53 – How do you build a space camera?<br />26:45 – What TRL11 has learned in their early orbit tests<br />29:06 – TRL11's primary first customers<br />32:25 – Making the case for investors<br />36:45 – Should every spacecraft have video onboard?<br />38:03 – The importance of video for inspiration<br />40:03 – Misunderstandings when it comes to video from partners, investors, and customers<br />41:10 – Lessons Nicol learned building a company in the space industry<br />42:42 – Fundraising at TRL11<br />44:26 – Legacy and product evolution</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>TRL11’s website — https://www.trl11.com/</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear /  </p><p>https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/</p><p>Tectonic’s socials — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/</p><p>Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.</p><ul><li> Payload: www.payloadspace.com </li><li>Ignition: www.ignition-news.com</li><li>Tectonic: www.tectonicdefense.com</li></ul>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Smallsats have defined the last decade of space, but their limitations are clear: low power, limited throughput, and fragile unit economics. K2 Space is betting on the opposite. The company is building mega class and giga class satellites, platforms measured in tons rather than kilograms, that deliver unprecedented power, capacity, and resilience. By vertically integrating 80 percent of their systems in house, K2 is cutting costs by an order of magnitude and making industrial scale spacecraft a reality.</p><p>On this episode of Valley of Depth, we’re joined by Neel Kunjur, cofounder and CTO of K2 Space. Neel traces the journey from early Slack messages about the promise of MEO to a 160 person team building the largest commercial satellites ever attempted. He shares how K2 has reimagined subsystems like reaction wheels, high voltage power, and 20 kW propulsion to unlock entirely new mission architectures in MEO, GEO, and beyond.</p><p> </p><p>We also discuss:</p><ul><li>Why MEO is such an underexplored orbital regime</li><li>The engineering breakthroughs behind large reaction wheels and high voltage power systems</li><li>How stackable satellites change constellation design</li><li>The long term vision for space infrastructure, from in space compute to energy harvesting</li></ul><p>…and more.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 – Intro<br />00:56 – What's happened in the past two years since K2 has been on the pod<br />02:13 – The thesis behind K2<br />03:51 – What does Neel mean by aperture?<br />04:40 – Why do satellites need to grow in size and power?<br />06:59 – The rise in Medium Earth Orbit (MEO) chatter<br />08:49 – Why did Neel leave SpaceX and start K2 with his brother?<br />12:04 – Building K2 for a post Starship world<br />14:10 – Current and future K2 offerings<br />15:32 – 20 Kilowatts vs a small LEO satellite<br />17:10 – Giga-scale satellite<br />18:40 – How K2 is able to deliver $15m satellite<br />21:13 – K2's innovations so far<br />23:01 – Engineering problems that larger satellite builders have to worry about<br />25:08 – K2's propulsion solution to get MEO<br />28:11 – Engineering for Starship's current MEO blindspot<br />29:18 – Neel's prediction on Starship's refueling rollout<br />30:14 – Innovation through simplicity<br />33:24 – How is K2 hiring the talent for their niche challenges<br />35:52 – How big is K2's team today<br />36:43 – Key takeaways from K2's first mission<br />38:22 – Mission Gravitas<br />39:59 – Orbit race<br />40:39 – Mission Gravitas: Commercial or DoD?<br />41:33 – K2's scaling plans<br />43:03 – Customized vs standardized<br />45:17 – Overspec'd by design<br />45:40 – Will K2's success spur more competition?<br />47:23 – Will satellites become robust, industrial hardware?<br />48:48 – What's enabled by these large platforms?<br />51:01 – The paradigm shift happening in engineering for space<br />52:42 – Will SpaceX own LEO?<br />55:05 – The name and branding behind K2</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>K2’s website — http://www.k2space.com/</p><p>K2’s socials — https://x.com/K2SpaceCo</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear /  </p><p>https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/</p><p>Tectonic’s socials  — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/</p><p>Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.</p><ul><li>Payload: www.payloadspace.com</li><li>Ignition: www.ignition-news.com</li><li>Tectonic: www.tectonicdefense.com</li></ul>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This episode is presented by L3Harris Technologies.</p><p>On this special edition of Valley of Depth, we’re joined by Kristin Houston, President of Space Propulsion and Power Systems at L3Harris. Kristin leads the team responsible for propulsion and space power systems across Artemis and beyond, from the RS-25 main engines to the Gateway’s high-power electric propulsion system to Fission Surface Power (FSP) on the Moon. We dive into how Artemis II is shaping up, the role of SLS, and why nuclear power and propulsion may be the linchpin of America’s long-term space presence.</p><p>We also discuss:</p><ul><li>What Artemis II is designed to prove, and why precision on Artemis I mattered so much</li><li>How Artemis ties directly into national security and the new lunar race with China</li><li>FSP – what it is, why it matters, and why NASA is accelerating it now</li><li>Nuclear propulsion: hype vs. physics, and how soon it could be operational</li><li>Why maneuverability in space is becoming the next strategic advantage</li><li>Golden Dome and how propulsion/power innovations fit into the architecture</li><li>The propulsion milestone Kristin wants to see in the next 10 years</li></ul><p>…and much more.</p><p>Check out this Valley of Depth on Apple, Spotify, or YouTube.</p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 – Intro<br />00:47 – Kristin's background<br />03:47 – Why are we going back to the Moon?<br />07:10 – State of the Artemis program<br />09:28 – L3Harris's involvement in Artemis<br />10:48 – What does success look like for Artemis 2?<br />12:38 – Orbital maneuvers and landing<br />14:35 – Lessons from Artemis I that's giving confidence into Artemis II<br />15:45 – Artemis II readiness, risk, and pacing<br />16:39 – What needs to go right in Artemis II<br />18:55 – The need for the SLS rocket<br />19:57 – The criticism of the SLS<br />22:28 – Could Starship and the SLS coexist?<br />24:33 – National security ROI for sustained Lunar operations<br />27:02 – Are we underestimating China?<br />27:40 – What if China gets to the Moon first?<br />31:13 – The question about power<br />34:59 – Minimum power requirements on the Moon<br />35:45 – Government's renewed focus on nuclear<br />36:57 – How far away are we from nuclear propulsion?<br />39:27 – Maneuverability in space<br />42:20 – Defense focused propulsion systems<br />42:57 – Golden Dome<br />46:11 – Propulsion milestones</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>L3Harris’s website — https://www.l3harris.com/<br />Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam<br />Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace<br />Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear / <br />https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/<br />Tectonic’s socials  — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/<br />Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.</p><ul><li>Payload: <a href="http://www.payloadspace.com">www.payloadspace.com</a></li><li>Ignition: <a href="http://www.ignition-news.com">www.ignition-news.com</a></li><li>Tectonic: <a href="http://www.tectonicdefense.com">www.tectonicdefense.com</a></li></ul>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This episode is presented by L3Harris Technologies.</p><p>On this special edition of Valley of Depth, we’re joined by Kristin Houston, President of Space Propulsion and Power Systems at L3Harris. Kristin leads the team responsible for propulsion and space power systems across Artemis and beyond, from the RS-25 main engines to the Gateway’s high-power electric propulsion system to Fission Surface Power (FSP) on the Moon. We dive into how Artemis II is shaping up, the role of SLS, and why nuclear power and propulsion may be the linchpin of America’s long-term space presence.</p><p>We also discuss:</p><ul><li>What Artemis II is designed to prove, and why precision on Artemis I mattered so much</li><li>How Artemis ties directly into national security and the new lunar race with China</li><li>FSP – what it is, why it matters, and why NASA is accelerating it now</li><li>Nuclear propulsion: hype vs. physics, and how soon it could be operational</li><li>Why maneuverability in space is becoming the next strategic advantage</li><li>Golden Dome and how propulsion/power innovations fit into the architecture</li><li>The propulsion milestone Kristin wants to see in the next 10 years</li></ul><p>…and much more.</p><p>Check out this Valley of Depth on Apple, Spotify, or YouTube.</p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 – Intro<br />00:47 – Kristin's background<br />03:47 – Why are we going back to the Moon?<br />07:10 – State of the Artemis program<br />09:28 – L3Harris's involvement in Artemis<br />10:48 – What does success look like for Artemis 2?<br />12:38 – Orbital maneuvers and landing<br />14:35 – Lessons from Artemis I that's giving confidence into Artemis II<br />15:45 – Artemis II readiness, risk, and pacing<br />16:39 – What needs to go right in Artemis II<br />18:55 – The need for the SLS rocket<br />19:57 – The criticism of the SLS<br />22:28 – Could Starship and the SLS coexist?<br />24:33 – National security ROI for sustained Lunar operations<br />27:02 – Are we underestimating China?<br />27:40 – What if China gets to the Moon first?<br />31:13 – The question about power<br />34:59 – Minimum power requirements on the Moon<br />35:45 – Government's renewed focus on nuclear<br />36:57 – How far away are we from nuclear propulsion?<br />39:27 – Maneuverability in space<br />42:20 – Defense focused propulsion systems<br />42:57 – Golden Dome<br />46:11 – Propulsion milestones</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>L3Harris’s website — https://www.l3harris.com/<br />Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam<br />Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace<br />Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear / <br />https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/<br />Tectonic’s socials  — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/<br />Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.</p><ul><li>Payload: <a href="http://www.payloadspace.com">www.payloadspace.com</a></li><li>Ignition: <a href="http://www.ignition-news.com">www.ignition-news.com</a></li><li>Tectonic: <a href="http://www.tectonicdefense.com">www.tectonicdefense.com</a></li></ul>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Some environments are simply too harsh for traditional power sources. Solar panels fail in darkness, batteries die quickly, and diesel can’t reach. That’s where Zeno Power comes in. The company is pioneering nuclear batteries, compact systems that recycle radioactive waste into safe, reliable power for years at a time.</p><p>On this episode of Valley of Depth, I’m joined by Tyler Bernstein, co-founder and CEO of Zeno Power. We trace the journey from a Vanderbilt classroom project to a venture-backed company with $70M in private capital, $60M+ in NASA and DoD contracts, and a working nuclear prototype. Tyler shares how Zeno is positioning itself to power critical frontier operations: autonomous systems on the seabed, satellites in orbit, and landers on the Moon.</p><p>We also discuss:</p><ul><li>How a nuclear battery works and why Strontium-90 is Zeno’s starting fuel</li><li>What it takes to safely turn nuclear waste into usable power</li><li>The use cases that only nuclear batteries can unlock</li><li>The business model: selling units vs. power-as-a-service vs. revenue sharing</li><li>Navigating the unique regulatory path for radioisotope systems</li><li>The risks of scaling a nuclear startup</li></ul><p>…and much more.</p><p>This episode is brought to you by World Space Business Week, taking place September 15–19 in Paris. WSBW is one of the leading annual gatherings for the global space industry, bringing together executives, investors, government officials, and innovators from across commercial, defense, and satellite sectors. Learn more at <a href="http://wsbw.com">wsbw.com</a>.</p><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 – Intro & WSBW Ad<br />01:26 – Tyler's background and how he came to co-found Zeno Power<br />04:13 – Is it normal for Vanderbilt to support their students' ideas and startups?<br />05:11 – Key mentors/validators of Tyler's business<br />07:06 – Zeno's products and $70M fundraising<br />09:12 – What is a nuclear battery and how does it work?<br />12:40 – How Zeno is carefully handling Strontium-90<br />14:39 – Future use cases for Strontium-90<br />15:53 – Advantages of nuclear battery<br />18:09 – Energy limits and stacking<br />19:30 – DoD and commercial customers<br />21:20 – Future business model<br />22:52 – How does Tyler think about pricing?<br />24:31 – How does regulation look for nuclear batteries?<br />27:00 – Will there be meaningful change coming out of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC)?<br />29:03 – Competition<br />31:25 – Turning nuclear waste into valuable power<br />34:12 – The future of nuclear waste disposal<br />37:47 – Biggest technical risks Zeno is combating<br />40:46 – Scaling the Stirling generator<br />41:49 – Zeno's testing infrastructure<br />43:08 – What keeps Tyler up at night<br />47:16 – Is Tyler optimistic about the future of energy in the US?<br />48:41 – Zeno's legacy in 20 years</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Zeno Power’s website — https://www.zenopower.com/<br />Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam<br />Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace<br />Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear / <br />https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/<br />Tectonic’s socials  — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/<br />Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.</p><ul><li>Payload: <a href="http://www.payloadspace.com">www.payloadspace.com</a></li><li>Ignition: <a href="http://www.ignition-news.com">www.ignition-news.com</a></li><li>Tectonic: <a href="http://www.tectonicdefense.com">www.tectonicdefense.com</a></li></ul>
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      <author>mo@arkaeamedia.com (Arkaea Media (Payload | Ignition | Tectonic))</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some environments are simply too harsh for traditional power sources. Solar panels fail in darkness, batteries die quickly, and diesel can’t reach. That’s where Zeno Power comes in. The company is pioneering nuclear batteries, compact systems that recycle radioactive waste into safe, reliable power for years at a time.</p><p>On this episode of Valley of Depth, I’m joined by Tyler Bernstein, co-founder and CEO of Zeno Power. We trace the journey from a Vanderbilt classroom project to a venture-backed company with $70M in private capital, $60M+ in NASA and DoD contracts, and a working nuclear prototype. Tyler shares how Zeno is positioning itself to power critical frontier operations: autonomous systems on the seabed, satellites in orbit, and landers on the Moon.</p><p>We also discuss:</p><ul><li>How a nuclear battery works and why Strontium-90 is Zeno’s starting fuel</li><li>What it takes to safely turn nuclear waste into usable power</li><li>The use cases that only nuclear batteries can unlock</li><li>The business model: selling units vs. power-as-a-service vs. revenue sharing</li><li>Navigating the unique regulatory path for radioisotope systems</li><li>The risks of scaling a nuclear startup</li></ul><p>…and much more.</p><p>This episode is brought to you by World Space Business Week, taking place September 15–19 in Paris. WSBW is one of the leading annual gatherings for the global space industry, bringing together executives, investors, government officials, and innovators from across commercial, defense, and satellite sectors. Learn more at <a href="http://wsbw.com">wsbw.com</a>.</p><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 – Intro & WSBW Ad<br />01:26 – Tyler's background and how he came to co-found Zeno Power<br />04:13 – Is it normal for Vanderbilt to support their students' ideas and startups?<br />05:11 – Key mentors/validators of Tyler's business<br />07:06 – Zeno's products and $70M fundraising<br />09:12 – What is a nuclear battery and how does it work?<br />12:40 – How Zeno is carefully handling Strontium-90<br />14:39 – Future use cases for Strontium-90<br />15:53 – Advantages of nuclear battery<br />18:09 – Energy limits and stacking<br />19:30 – DoD and commercial customers<br />21:20 – Future business model<br />22:52 – How does Tyler think about pricing?<br />24:31 – How does regulation look for nuclear batteries?<br />27:00 – Will there be meaningful change coming out of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC)?<br />29:03 – Competition<br />31:25 – Turning nuclear waste into valuable power<br />34:12 – The future of nuclear waste disposal<br />37:47 – Biggest technical risks Zeno is combating<br />40:46 – Scaling the Stirling generator<br />41:49 – Zeno's testing infrastructure<br />43:08 – What keeps Tyler up at night<br />47:16 – Is Tyler optimistic about the future of energy in the US?<br />48:41 – Zeno's legacy in 20 years</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Zeno Power’s website — https://www.zenopower.com/<br />Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam<br />Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace<br />Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear / <br />https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/<br />Tectonic’s socials  — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/<br />Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.</p><ul><li>Payload: <a href="http://www.payloadspace.com">www.payloadspace.com</a></li><li>Ignition: <a href="http://www.ignition-news.com">www.ignition-news.com</a></li><li>Tectonic: <a href="http://www.tectonicdefense.com">www.tectonicdefense.com</a></li></ul>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Logistics rarely makes headlines, but it wins or loses wars. Rune Technologies is betting that the future of contested sustainment won’t be built on warehouses and spreadsheets, but on software. The company recently <a href="https://www.tectonicdefense.com/rune-raises-24m-series-a-for-ai-powered-logistics/">raised</a> a $24M Series A to accelerate that vision.</p><p>On this episode of <i>Valley of Depth</i>, we’re joined by Rune co-founder and CEO David Tuttle to talk about how the company is reimagining military logistics from the ground up. We trace Rune’s path from early prototypes to today’s TyrOS platform, discuss the cultural inertia inside the Pentagon, and unpack what it means to build software that commanders can trust under fire.</p><p>We also get into:</p><ul><li>The founding story of Rune and the early technical unlocks</li><li>Building TyrOS and winning adoption with frontline commands</li><li>What it takes to design software soldiers actually want to use</li><li>Why logistics is becoming a strategic lever in great power competition</li><li>The long-term vision for software-defined sustainment</li></ul><p>…and much more.</p><p>This episode is brought to you by World Space Business Week, taking place September 15–19 in Paris. WSBW is one of the leading annual gatherings for the global space industry, bringing together executives, investors, government officials, and innovators from across commercial, defense, and satellite sectors. Learn more at <a href="http://wsbw.com">wsbw.com</a>.</p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 – Intro<br />01:02 – WSBW<br />01:27 – The story behind the name "Rune"<br />03:02 – What is Rune building?<br />04:34 – David's background and how he ended up founding Rune<br />08:10 – Why David and Peter Goldsborough had to make Rune exist<br />10:43 – Logistics in warfare<br />13:02 – How logistics are still being tracked today and why it’s outdated<br />17:05 – How TyrOS changes the logistics of the battlefield<br />21:56 – Operating in denied or degraded environments<br />24:54 – Who's using Rune's products right now and future scaling<br />29:20 – What has surprised David the most<br />31:08 – Pilot to program of record with the DoD<br />33:39 – Competitive landscape<br />36:01 – Will Rune stay in Defense?<br />37:30 – Will software like Rune's change military doctrine?<br />40:28 – Software making decisions in life-or-death scenarios<br />42:45 – Contrarian beliefs about defense tech<br />46:12 – Milestones to look out for at Rune<br />47:32 – What does the US military look like if Rune succeeds?<br />48:59 – What does David do for fun?<br /> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Rune’s website — https://www.runetech.co/</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear / </p><p>https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/</p><p>Tectonic’s socials  — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/</p><p>Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/<br /> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.</p><ul><li>Payload: <a href="http://www.payloadspace.com">www.payloadspace.com</a></li><li>Ignition: <a href="http://www.ignition-news.com">www.ignition-news.com</a></li><li>Tectonic: <a href="http://www.tectonicdefense.com">www.tectonicdefense.com</a></li></ul>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2025 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>mo@arkaeamedia.com (Arkaea Media (Payload | Ignition | Tectonic))</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Logistics rarely makes headlines, but it wins or loses wars. Rune Technologies is betting that the future of contested sustainment won’t be built on warehouses and spreadsheets, but on software. The company recently <a href="https://www.tectonicdefense.com/rune-raises-24m-series-a-for-ai-powered-logistics/">raised</a> a $24M Series A to accelerate that vision.</p><p>On this episode of <i>Valley of Depth</i>, we’re joined by Rune co-founder and CEO David Tuttle to talk about how the company is reimagining military logistics from the ground up. We trace Rune’s path from early prototypes to today’s TyrOS platform, discuss the cultural inertia inside the Pentagon, and unpack what it means to build software that commanders can trust under fire.</p><p>We also get into:</p><ul><li>The founding story of Rune and the early technical unlocks</li><li>Building TyrOS and winning adoption with frontline commands</li><li>What it takes to design software soldiers actually want to use</li><li>Why logistics is becoming a strategic lever in great power competition</li><li>The long-term vision for software-defined sustainment</li></ul><p>…and much more.</p><p>This episode is brought to you by World Space Business Week, taking place September 15–19 in Paris. WSBW is one of the leading annual gatherings for the global space industry, bringing together executives, investors, government officials, and innovators from across commercial, defense, and satellite sectors. Learn more at <a href="http://wsbw.com">wsbw.com</a>.</p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 – Intro<br />01:02 – WSBW<br />01:27 – The story behind the name "Rune"<br />03:02 – What is Rune building?<br />04:34 – David's background and how he ended up founding Rune<br />08:10 – Why David and Peter Goldsborough had to make Rune exist<br />10:43 – Logistics in warfare<br />13:02 – How logistics are still being tracked today and why it’s outdated<br />17:05 – How TyrOS changes the logistics of the battlefield<br />21:56 – Operating in denied or degraded environments<br />24:54 – Who's using Rune's products right now and future scaling<br />29:20 – What has surprised David the most<br />31:08 – Pilot to program of record with the DoD<br />33:39 – Competitive landscape<br />36:01 – Will Rune stay in Defense?<br />37:30 – Will software like Rune's change military doctrine?<br />40:28 – Software making decisions in life-or-death scenarios<br />42:45 – Contrarian beliefs about defense tech<br />46:12 – Milestones to look out for at Rune<br />47:32 – What does the US military look like if Rune succeeds?<br />48:59 – What does David do for fun?<br /> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Rune’s website — https://www.runetech.co/</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear / </p><p>https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/</p><p>Tectonic’s socials  — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/</p><p>Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/<br /> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.</p><ul><li>Payload: <a href="http://www.payloadspace.com">www.payloadspace.com</a></li><li>Ignition: <a href="http://www.ignition-news.com">www.ignition-news.com</a></li><li>Tectonic: <a href="http://www.tectonicdefense.com">www.tectonicdefense.com</a></li></ul>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Tommy Hendrix is Managing Partner at Decisive Point, a venture firm backing early-stage companies developing critical national security technologies. In this episode of Valley of Depth, we unpack what it really means to fund the future of national defense and how venture capital is becoming a tool of statecraft.</p><p>A former Green Beret turned investor, Tommy brings rare insight into the geopolitical stakes, bureaucratic hurdles, and human motivations behind the new national security startup wave. From combat deployments in Iraq to due diligence in D.C., he’s seen the full arc of how technology shapes power.</p><p>We get into Decisive Point’s playbook, from why it was built, to how it supports founders navigating the defense industrial complex. Tommy also shares lessons from working inside the machine, the firm’s approach to incubation, and how they decide when a startup can actually shift the deterrence equation.</p><p>We also dive into:</p><ul><li>The strategic case for funding early</li><li>Why some military problems aren’t venture-scale</li><li>What it takes to build “weapons-grade” startups</li><li>The ethics of AI-enabled kill chains</li><li>Private capital’s role in a new Cold War</li><li>How the next great defense companies will be born</li></ul><p>This episode is brought to you by World Space Business Week, taking place September 15–19 in Paris. WSBW is one of the leading annual gatherings for the global space industry, bringing together executives, investors, government officials, and innovators from across commercial, defense, and satellite sectors. Learn more at wsbw.com.</p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro<br />01:14 – From Green Beret into venture<br />04:02 – Deployments that have shaped Tommy's venture career<br />10:54 – What is broken in the US's current procurement process for defense tech?<br />14:51 – A future without humans in the kill chain<br />18:42 – What has changed with defense tech investors?<br />24:05 – How does Tommy pick the right companies to invest in?<br />28:57 – Tommy's work in nuclear<br />32:19 – How helping a portfolio company go through bankruptcy gave Decisive Point a new lens for investment strategies<br />34:49 – How does the firm make decisions<br />37:37 – Companies that were good for the nation but difficult to justify long-term venture<br />39:54 – Must-haves for the US to win the tech race<br />42:55 – Tech gaps that need more focus<br />47:00 – Qualities of a founder Tom is looking for<br />49:22 – What Tom carried over from his military career into his investing career<br />52:01 – The driving force behind Decisive Point</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Decisive Point’s website — https://www.decisivepoint.com/</p><p>Decisive Point’s socials — https://x.com/decisivepointvc</p><p>Tommy’s socials — https://x.com/thomasehendrix</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear /  </p><p>https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/</p><p>Tectonic’s socials  — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/</p><p>Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.</p><ul><li>Payload: www.payloadspace.com</li><li>Ignition: www.ignition-news.com</li><li>Tectonic: www.tectonicdefense.com</li></ul><p> </p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Mikkel Vestergaard isn’t a typical aerospace founder. Before building solar-powered stratospheric airships, he spent two decades in humanitarian innovation, distributing a billion malaria nets, co-creating the LifeStraw, and helping eradicate Guinea worm disease. Now, as CEO of Sceye, he’s applying that same ethos to aerospace.</p><p>In this conversation, Mikkel dives deep into the origins, design, and future of High-Altitude Platform Systems (HAPS). We explore why the stratosphere is emerging as a new layer of infrastructure, filling the gap between satellites and towers, and how Sceye’s helium-filled, solar-powered airships could reshape internet connectivity, earth observation, and national security.</p><p>We cover:</p><ul><li>Why Mikkel pivoted from global health to aerospace</li><li>The engineering that makes persistent stratospheric flight possible</li><li>How Sceye closes the “power loop” to stay aloft for months</li><li>Commercial applications from telecom to methane detection</li><li>Strategic partnerships with SoftBank, América Móvil, and Mawarid</li><li>The defense potential of HAPS</li><li>The business model behind “infrastructure as a service”</li><li>What it takes to build investor conviction around a platform that feels left-field</li></ul><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 – Intro</p><p>01:52 – Life before Sceye</p><p>02:51 – Work at Lifestraw</p><p>06:31 – What is Lifestraw?</p><p>07:50 – Making the pivot from global health to aerospace and working at Sceye</p><p>10:52 – HAPS or High-Altitude Platform Systems</p><p>12:25 – Why choose a balloon over a fixed wing aircraft?</p><p>14:04 – Types of payloads</p><p>16:06 – Not Hindenburg 2.0</p><p>16:48 – How Mikkel's earlier material science experience shaped Sceye's design decisions</p><p>18:09 – Pitching Sceye to investors</p><p>19:16 – Common misconceptions of stratospheric platforms</p><p>20:41 – What can HAPS do for the telecommunications industry?</p><p>25:03 – How many HAPS would we need to provide global coverage?</p><p>25:24 – Sceye's equity investor partners</p><p>26:00 – When Sceye will be fully commercialized</p><p>28:34 – Other use cases</p><p>31:33 – Advantages over satellites</p><p>32:34 – National security use cases</p><p>33:31 – The business model of HAPS</p><p>34:52 – Sceye's next iteration of customers</p><p>35:40 – How Sceye is building their team</p><p>36:56 – Manufacturing process and scaling</p><p>37:53 – Capital to scale</p><p>38:25 – What keeps Mikkel up at night</p><p>39:38 – What does success to Sceye look like<br /> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>SCEYE’s website — https://sceye.com/</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear / </p><p>https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/</p><p>Tectonic’s socials — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/</p><p>Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/</p><p><br /> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.</p><ul><li>Payload: <a href="http://www.payloadspace.com">www.payloadspace.com</a></li><li>Ignition: <a href="http://www.ignition-news.com">www.ignition-news.com</a></li><li>Tectonic: <a href="http://www.tectonicdefense.com">www.tectonicdefense.com</a></li></ul>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mikkel Vestergaard isn’t a typical aerospace founder. Before building solar-powered stratospheric airships, he spent two decades in humanitarian innovation, distributing a billion malaria nets, co-creating the LifeStraw, and helping eradicate Guinea worm disease. Now, as CEO of Sceye, he’s applying that same ethos to aerospace.</p><p>In this conversation, Mikkel dives deep into the origins, design, and future of High-Altitude Platform Systems (HAPS). We explore why the stratosphere is emerging as a new layer of infrastructure, filling the gap between satellites and towers, and how Sceye’s helium-filled, solar-powered airships could reshape internet connectivity, earth observation, and national security.</p><p>We cover:</p><ul><li>Why Mikkel pivoted from global health to aerospace</li><li>The engineering that makes persistent stratospheric flight possible</li><li>How Sceye closes the “power loop” to stay aloft for months</li><li>Commercial applications from telecom to methane detection</li><li>Strategic partnerships with SoftBank, América Móvil, and Mawarid</li><li>The defense potential of HAPS</li><li>The business model behind “infrastructure as a service”</li><li>What it takes to build investor conviction around a platform that feels left-field</li></ul><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 – Intro</p><p>01:52 – Life before Sceye</p><p>02:51 – Work at Lifestraw</p><p>06:31 – What is Lifestraw?</p><p>07:50 – Making the pivot from global health to aerospace and working at Sceye</p><p>10:52 – HAPS or High-Altitude Platform Systems</p><p>12:25 – Why choose a balloon over a fixed wing aircraft?</p><p>14:04 – Types of payloads</p><p>16:06 – Not Hindenburg 2.0</p><p>16:48 – How Mikkel's earlier material science experience shaped Sceye's design decisions</p><p>18:09 – Pitching Sceye to investors</p><p>19:16 – Common misconceptions of stratospheric platforms</p><p>20:41 – What can HAPS do for the telecommunications industry?</p><p>25:03 – How many HAPS would we need to provide global coverage?</p><p>25:24 – Sceye's equity investor partners</p><p>26:00 – When Sceye will be fully commercialized</p><p>28:34 – Other use cases</p><p>31:33 – Advantages over satellites</p><p>32:34 – National security use cases</p><p>33:31 – The business model of HAPS</p><p>34:52 – Sceye's next iteration of customers</p><p>35:40 – How Sceye is building their team</p><p>36:56 – Manufacturing process and scaling</p><p>37:53 – Capital to scale</p><p>38:25 – What keeps Mikkel up at night</p><p>39:38 – What does success to Sceye look like<br /> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>SCEYE’s website — https://sceye.com/</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear / </p><p>https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/</p><p>Tectonic’s socials — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/</p><p>Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/</p><p><br /> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.</p><ul><li>Payload: <a href="http://www.payloadspace.com">www.payloadspace.com</a></li><li>Ignition: <a href="http://www.ignition-news.com">www.ignition-news.com</a></li><li>Tectonic: <a href="http://www.tectonicdefense.com">www.tectonicdefense.com</a></li></ul>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2025 22:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julien Barber is an investor at Emerson Collective, a venture and policy firm founded by Laurene Powell Jobs, where he backs bold bets on decarbonization, infrastructure, and long-horizon climate technologies. Before becoming an investor, Julien researched fusion energy at MIT and co-founded a carbon-tech startup. </p><p>In today’s episode, we go deep into Julien’s investing philosophy, Emerson’s unique model, and the hard tech categories he believes are most undercapitalized.</p><p>We cover:</p><ul><li>Why Emerson is structured for risk others can’t take</li><li>Fusion, fission, and the evolving energy stack</li><li>AI’s impact on power demand and hardware acceleration</li><li>How to invest when the grid is the bottleneck</li><li>Building conviction in hard tech when capital is scarce</li><li>Public vs. private roles in scaling fusion</li><li>What a 7-million-fold increase in energy density may actually look like</li></ul><p>• Chapters •<br />00:00 – Intro</p><p>01:49 – From scientist to investor</p><p>04:37 – Why Julien chose fusion</p><p>08:57 – Investment process at Emerson</p><p>10:08 – The team at Emerson</p><p>12:15 – Is Emerson consensus-driven and why is it an LLC?</p><p>14:07 – Under-invested areas in climate & industrial tech</p><p>17:24 – Are AI valuations reasonable today?</p><p>18:59 – Bottlenecks in the grid</p><p>23:11 – AI energy consumption: hype or real concern?</p><p>27:10 – Bridging the energy gap</p><p>29:20 – Fusion’s role in the next decade</p><p>31:24 – Google & Commonwealth Fusion: serious commercial signal?</p><p>32:37 – Are we underinvesting in fusion?</p><p>39:12 – Who will reach commercial fusion first?</p><p>41:36 – 30-year future if fusion succeeds<br /> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Emerson’s socials — https://x.com/emcollective</p><p>Emerson’s website — https://www.emersoncollective.com/</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear / </p><p>https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/</p><p>Tectonic’s socials  — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/</p><p>Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/<br /> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.</p><ul><li>Payload: <a href="http://www.payloadspace.com">www.payloadspace.com</a></li><li>Ignition: <a href="http://www.ignition-news.com">www.ignition-news.com</a></li><li>Tectonic: <a href="http://www.tectonicdefense.com">www.tectonicdefense.com</a></li></ul>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In the wake of new executive orders elevating nuclear energy as a national security priority, there’s growing momentum—and urgency—behind advanced fission technologies. Few are better positioned to talk about this shift than Jordan Bramble, co-founder and CEO of Antares Nuclear, a startup building microreactors for defense and space.</p><p>In this episode of Valley of Depth, we explore the strategic, technical, and geopolitical dimensions driving the nuclear renaissance. We cover:</p><p>• Why microreactors are built for strategic energy and not just the grid</p><p>• The real story behind public support for nuclear energy</p><p>• How Antares plans to deploy sub-megawatt nuclear systems on U.S. military installations</p><p>• The challenges of fuel supply, regulation, and capital</p><p>• Why China is pulling ahead and what the U.S. must do to catch up</p><p>• Nuclear-powered space assets and propulsion</p><p>• Why Jordan believes venture-scale outcomes are coming to nuclear energy</p><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro<br />00:56 - Payload Pro<br />01:39 - State of fission<br />03:38 - Is renewed nuclear interest driven by political or environmental factors?<br />05:23 - Are small modular reactors (SMRs) going to replace large, conventional nuclear reactors?<br />07:31 - Is nuclear still a controversial topic?<br />09:27 - Cultural legacy of nuclear in media<br />11:49 - Antares and how Jordan got into nuclear<br />14:16 - What does 1 Megawatt mean?<br />15:53 - Game changing environments for Antares's SMR<br />19:30 - Terrestrial business model<br />20:39 - Nuclear fuel supply chain<br />21:35 - Current state and future prediction of fuel pipeline<br />23:42 - Safety in contested environments<br />26:49 - Hardest technical challenges<br />29:52 - What will it take to get to their first electron<br />31:23 - Competition<br />34:27 - US vs its adversaries<br />36:29 - Navigating regulatory guidelines<br />38:10 - Impact of Trump's Executive Orders<br />40:03 - NRC<br />41:12 - Are we living in a VC renaissance for nuclear?<br />44:05 - What drives Jordan to work on nuclear?<br />46:30 - For those afraid of nuclear</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Jordan’s socials — https://x.com/jordanbramble</p><p>Antares’ socials — https://x.com/AntaresNuclear</p><p>Antares’ website — https://boomsupersonic.com/</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear /  </p><p>https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/</p><p>Tectonic’s socials  — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/</p><p>Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.</p><p>• Payload: www.payloadspace.com</p><p>• Ignition: www.ignition-news.com</p><p>• Tectonic: www.tectonicdefense.com</p>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2025 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2025 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>If the next great war is fought in space, Even Rogers wants the U.S. to be ready. On this episode of Valley of Depth, the True Anomaly CEO and former Air Force weapons officer joins us to break down how he’s building autonomous systems for space superiority and why space is the next warfighting domain. A graduate of the Air Force Weapons School, Even brings rare tactical and strategic insight into how the U.S. must fight and win in orbit.</p><p> </p><p>In this episode, we unpack the doctrine, technology, and strategy shaping the next phase of military competition in space. We cover:</p><ul><li> Why 2007 was the turning point for space as a warfighting domain</li><li>How to think about offense, deterrence, and domain control in orbit</li><li>What the Space Force needs—and why $60B is the real number</li><li>The role of private industry vs. the primes in defense innovation</li><li>Golden Dome, missile defense, and the future of space-based interceptors</li></ul><p>…plus how we may one day have Guardians stationed permanently in space.</p><p>Check out Valley of Depth #007 on YouTube, Apple, or Spotify.</p><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p>00:57 - Payload Pro</p><p>01:39 - True Anomaly's mission</p><p>02:51 - How Even started the company</p><p>04:02 - $220m Series C</p><p>05:48 - When did space become a place to defend?</p><p>09:20 - The challenge to US space dominance</p><p>11:16 - What made Even realize that the US was unprepared?</p><p>16:05 - What does space superiority look like?</p><p>17:49 - What does space warfare actually mean?</p><p>21:48 - The R&D the Space Force needs</p><p>24:01 - What it meant to form the Space Force</p><p>27:11 - The cultural shift on the Space Force</p><p>30:49 - Current US Space capabilities and gaps</p><p>32:44 - Why was the Space Force budget cut despite its importance?</p><p>35:06 - Primes and the US's space capabilities</p><p>37:12 - Procurement for the space domain</p><p>41:29 - Space components of the Golden Dome</p><p>43:35 - Phases of a ballistic missile</p><p>44:56 - Intercepting missiles at its boost phase</p><p>46:15 - What to prioritize today for space superiority</p><p>49:20 - Guardians in space</p><p>51:20 - Moon & Mars</p><p>52:40 - Lessons learned for the next True Anomaly mission</p><p>56:01 - What is the strategic impact True Anomaly is hoping to have?</p><p>57:31 - Will NASA blur the lines between civil and military?</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>True Anomaly’s socials — https://x.com/the_trueanomaly</p><p>Even’s socials — https://x.com/jollyrogersta</p><p>True Anomaly’s website — https://www.trueanomaly.space/</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear /  </p><p>https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/</p><p>Tectonic’s socials  — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/</p><p>Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.</p><ul><li>Payload: www.payloadspace.com</li><li>Ignition: www.ignition-news.com</li><li>Tectonic: www.tectonicdefense.com</li></ul>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 4 Jun 2025 21:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week on Valley of Depth, we’re joined by Erik Kriessmann, Partner at Altimeter – the $10B crossover firm known for backing generational companies across tech, defense, and space. From sourcing early-stage deals to helping build world-class teams, Erik’s path into venture started with a deep focus on talent, giving him a rare edge in identifying high-potential founders and building lasting partnerships.</p><p> </p><p>In this episode, Erik shares how Altimeter thinks about concentrated investing, why the firm bets big on supercycles, and what it takes to earn a seat at the table with the best teams in tech. We also cover:</p><ul><li>How Altimeter defines a “supercycle”</li><li>The firm’s bets across AI, defense, and aerospace</li><li>What separates a good founder from a great one</li><li>Why Altimeter backed Anduril and K2</li><li>His take on the Mars hype (spoiler: not yet)</li><li>And how SpaceX changed the game for everyone</li></ul><p>…and much more.</p><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>0:00 - Intro</p><p>1:05 - Did Erik know he was going to be an investor?</p><p>1:44 - Erik's career journey</p><p>9:05 - Going from building talent teams to working with CEOs directly</p><p>12:07 - The investment philosophy core to Altimeter's growth</p><p>15:31 - Public vs private side of Altimeter</p><p>16:42 - How decisions get made</p><p>19:35 - What is today's super cycle?</p><p>21:14 - What technologies is Altimeter currently excited about?</p><p>22:40 - What does Erik look for in a founder?</p><p>24:25 - How do geopolitics weigh in on Altimeter's investments?</p><p>27:20 - Space super cycle</p><p>28:56 - What is Erik on the lookout for in the space industry</p><p>31:04 - How about Mars?</p><p>33:42 - Why did Altimeter first invest in Anduril?</p><p>36:09 - Navigating the DoD procurement process</p><p>37:50 - Expanding margin with the government customer</p><p>40:27 - Are we in a defense tech bubble?</p><p>41:56 - Has Altimeter invested in pure play defense names outside of Anduril?</p><p>44:03 - Exit paths for Altimeter's investments</p><p>45:34 - Foreign defense investment opportunities</p><p>47:34 - What would Erik be doing if he wasn't an investor?</p><p>49:42 - What's Erik listening to these days?</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Erik’s socials — https://x.com/ekriessmann</p><p>Brad’s socials — https://x.com/altcap</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear /  </p><p>https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/</p><p>Tectonic’s socials  — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/</p><p>Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.</p><ul><li>Payload: www.payloadspace.com</li><li>Ignition: www.ignition-news.com</li><li>Tectonic: www.tectonicdefense.com</li></ul>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week on Valley of Depth, we’re joined by Christian Garcia, Partner at Breakthrough Energy Ventures — the Bill Gates-backed climate fund investing in bold technologies to accelerate the energy transition across every sector of the economy. With portfolio companies tackling everything from geologic hydrogen to reusable rockets, BEV is redefining what it means to scale climate impact through hard tech.</p><p> </p><p>In this conversation, Christian shares how BEV thinks about breakthrough innovation, what makes a venture-backable climate solution, and why some of the most disruptive ideas look impossible—until they’re not. We also get into:</p><ul><li>BEV’s origin story</li><li>How climate and national security are converging</li><li>The firm’s approach to fusion, hydrogen, and aerospace</li><li>Why BEV backed both CFS and Pacific Fusion</li><li>What drew Christian to space — and Stoke Space in particular</li><li>And his take on what’s really being underestimated in climate today</li></ul><p>• Chapters •</p><p>0:00 - Intro</p><p>1:04 - What is Breakthrough Energy Ventures and how is it different from a typical fund?</p><p>2:26 - BEV's investors and why are they interested</p><p>5:45 - Is there a defense interest at BEV?</p><p>9:00 - How did Christian get into this space?</p><p>11:13 - What is BEV currently focused on?</p><p>14:17 - What type of breakthrough is BEV investing in and when?</p><p>17:16 - Firms BEV co-invests with</p><p>18:34 - Seed and Pre-seed investing</p><p>25:43 - What is the goal of investing in multiple fusion companies?</p><p>30:23 - How does space fit in BEV's climate portfolio?</p><p>34:23 - How do you separate bold vision from wishful thinking?</p><p>38:03 - Balancing science and storytelling</p><p>42:08 - Tech that Christian has passed on</p><p>45:37 - A BEV company that Christian thinks will shock the world with its success</p><p>48:48 - What are some common misconceptions about climate tech?</p><p>51:28 - Rapidfire questions</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>BEV’s website — https://www.breakthroughenergy.org/our-work/breakthrough-energy-ventures/</p><p>BEV’s socials — https://x.com/Breakthrough</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear /  </p><p>https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/</p><p>Tectonic’s socials  — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/</p><p>Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.</p><ul><li>Payload: <strong>www.payloadspace.com</strong></li><li>Ignition: <strong>www.ignition-news.com</strong></li><li>Tectonic:<strong> www.tectonicdefense.com</strong></li></ul>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>We’re excited to launch <i>Valley of Depth</i>, our new podcast taking the place of our beloved (formerly known as) Pathfinder (RIP) podcast.</p><p><br /> </p><p><i>Valley of Depth</i> is about the technologies that matter—and the people building them. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.</p><p><br /> </p><p>In our inaugural episode, EP 001, we’re joined by Bryon Hargis, co-founder and CEO of Castelion, a venture-backed defense startup building affordable, mass-producible hypersonic missile systems for the U.S. and allied militaries. Castelion, founded by former SpaceX engineers, is taking a vertically integrated, fast-iteration approach to strike weapons—redefining how complex defense hardware is built.</p><p><br /> </p><p>In this episode, we unpack the story behind Castelion’s formation, the rising hypersonic threat from China, how startups are challenging the dominance of traditional primes—and much, much more…</p><p><br /> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 Intro</p><p>00:52 What inspired Bryan to leave SpaceX and start Castelion?</p><p>03:06 Non-nuclear deterrence</p><p>05:15 How SpaceX's culture influenced Castelion</p><p>07:44 Current team size</p><p>08:07 Cultural shift in defense hiring</p><p>10:04 Hypersonic missile advantages</p><p>12:03 US vs China capabilities</p><p>13:32 Tradeoffs vs exquisite systems</p><p>16:08 What's behind Bryon</p><p>18:02 Recent test results</p><p>20:54 Iterating safely</p><p>24:27 Castelion's DoD buyer</p><p>26:56 Navigating defense acquisition</p><p>32:11 Championing innovation</p><p>35:17 The Golden Dome concept</p><p>37:10 Requirements for Golden Dome</p><p>39:21 Startups vs primes race</p><p>40:49 Scaling missile production timeline</p><p>42:48 European market potential</p><p>44:19 Competition with defense primes</p><p>45:49 Capital requirements</p><p>47:26 Company vision</p><p>49:13 World impact if successful</p><p>50:48 Next milestones</p><p>52:14 Story behind the name</p><p><br /> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Castelion’s website — <a href="https://www.castelion.com/">https://www.castelion.com/</a></p><p>Bryon’s socials — https://x.com/hargsb </p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear / </p><p>https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/</p><p>Tectonic’s socials  — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/</p><p>Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/</p><p><br /> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.</p><ul><li>Payload: <a href="http://www.payloadspace.com">www.payloadspace.com</a></li><li>Ignition: <a href="http://www.ignition-news.com">www.ignition-news.com</a></li></ul><p>Tectonic: <a href="http://www.tectonicdefense.com">www.tectonicdefense.com</a></p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week on Pathfinder, we’re joined by Matt Weinzierl, Chair of the MBA Program and Professor at Harvard Business School, and Brendan Rosseau, a member of the strategy team for launch at Blue Origin. Together, they’ve co-authored Space to Grow: Unlocking the Final Economic Frontier, a new book exploring the history, key players, and economic forces driving the momentum behind the space industry.</p><p>We discuss:</p><ul><li>The evolution of space economics and how government-private sector dynamics are changing</li><li>The role of NASA as an anchor customer and whether the model has limits</li><li>The rise of defense-focused pivots in commercial space companies</li><li>Market competition and whether we’re seeing monopolization in space</li><li>The economic case for lunar activity, space stations, and emerging industries</li><li>The biggest risks that could stall commercial space progress</li></ul><p>Their book launches on February 25, and this conversation is a must-listen for anyone interested in the economic forces shaping the future of space. You can order <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Space-Grow-Unlocking-Economic-Frontier/dp/1647827167">here</a>!<br /> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 Intro</p><p>04:00 HBS’s Space Program</p><p>06:36 An introduction to “Space to Grow”</p><p>08:50 The shift from space to defense</p><p>13:02 What to expect from the book</p><p>16:56 Space competition or monopolization?</p><p>21:52 How classic economic principles apply to space</p><p>29:24 Are we transitioning away from NASA to anchor customers?</p><p>33:36 Does space have the right financing structures in place to build this industry?</p><p>38:47 Economic case for the Moon (Mars?)</p><p>44:16 Viability of space stations</p><p>48:22 What space industries have the best economic potential in the next couple decades?</p><p>52:32 Biggest impediment to the space industry</p><p>55:43 Key takeaways from “Space to Grow”</p><p>59:05 Matt and Brendan's favorite books</p><p>01:01:13 Where to find Matt and Brendan</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Space to Grow — https://www.amazon.com/Space-Grow-Unlocking-Economic-Frontier/</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes<br /> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays</p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 5 Feb 2025 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week on Pathfinder, we’re joined by Matt Weinzierl, Chair of the MBA Program and Professor at Harvard Business School, and Brendan Rosseau, a member of the strategy team for launch at Blue Origin. Together, they’ve co-authored Space to Grow: Unlocking the Final Economic Frontier, a new book exploring the history, key players, and economic forces driving the momentum behind the space industry.</p><p>We discuss:</p><ul><li>The evolution of space economics and how government-private sector dynamics are changing</li><li>The role of NASA as an anchor customer and whether the model has limits</li><li>The rise of defense-focused pivots in commercial space companies</li><li>Market competition and whether we’re seeing monopolization in space</li><li>The economic case for lunar activity, space stations, and emerging industries</li><li>The biggest risks that could stall commercial space progress</li></ul><p>Their book launches on February 25, and this conversation is a must-listen for anyone interested in the economic forces shaping the future of space. You can order <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Space-Grow-Unlocking-Economic-Frontier/dp/1647827167">here</a>!<br /> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 Intro</p><p>04:00 HBS’s Space Program</p><p>06:36 An introduction to “Space to Grow”</p><p>08:50 The shift from space to defense</p><p>13:02 What to expect from the book</p><p>16:56 Space competition or monopolization?</p><p>21:52 How classic economic principles apply to space</p><p>29:24 Are we transitioning away from NASA to anchor customers?</p><p>33:36 Does space have the right financing structures in place to build this industry?</p><p>38:47 Economic case for the Moon (Mars?)</p><p>44:16 Viability of space stations</p><p>48:22 What space industries have the best economic potential in the next couple decades?</p><p>52:32 Biggest impediment to the space industry</p><p>55:43 Key takeaways from “Space to Grow”</p><p>59:05 Matt and Brendan's favorite books</p><p>01:01:13 Where to find Matt and Brendan</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Space to Grow — https://www.amazon.com/Space-Grow-Unlocking-Economic-Frontier/</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes<br /> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays</p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week on Pathfinder, we’re joined by Jeremiah Pate, founder and CEO of Lunasonde, a company pioneering subsurface imaging from space. Lunasonde is developing technology to map the Earth’s underground, leveraging low-frequency synthetic aperture radar (SAR) to identify critical minerals and resources.</p><p>With two satellites launched and the first full-tech satellite in their constellation set to launch in July, this episode dives into how Lunasonde is reshaping resource exploration. We also discuss:</p><ul><li>Lunasonde’s founding story and Jeremiah’s inspiration for the company</li><li>The fundamentals of subsurface SAR and how it differs from traditional radar technologies</li><li>The company’s royalty-based business model and its potential to disrupt the critical minerals industry</li><li>Real-world applications, including a breakthrough discovery of a previously unknown copper deposit</li><li>The long-term vision for Lunasonde, including applications beyond Earth and mapping resources on the Moon and asteroids</li><li>Insights on the challenges of scaling a space startup and navigating regulatory barriers</li></ul><p>And more…</p><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 Intro</p><p>03:04 What is SAR?</p><p>05:19 What is subsurface?</p><p>06:29 Critical minerals and Lunasonde's approach to the market</p><p>07:49 Size & demand</p><p>10:20 System architecture</p><p>11:28 Lunasonde's launches</p><p>12:02 Interpreting SAR data</p><p>13:27 SubSAR vs seismic imaging or ground penetrating radar</p><p>15:25 Environmental reasons behind building subSAR</p><p>16:22 How to ensure accuracy and reliability of the data</p><p>17:08 Corona satellites</p><p>20:48 How does Lunasonde convince ideal customers to embrace new technologies?</p><p>22:48 Examples of discovering new deposits</p><p>24:09 Lunasonde's competitors</p><p>26:02 Why do people think subSAR is impossible?</p><p>27:12 Going beyond the Earth</p><p>28:39 Other revenue models</p><p>30:27 Commercial vs government traction</p><p>31:27 Is Lunasonde looking for partnerships with space mining startups?</p><p>32:14 Scaling path</p><p>33:09 Funding</p><p>34:11 What keeps Jeremiah up at night?</p><p>34:52 Long-term vision</p><p>36:53 Could orgs like NASA use Lunasonde's capabilities for more intensive resource hunting missions?</p><p>38:28 What would Jeremiah like to change in the space industry?</p><p>40:51 If Jeremiah wasn't working at Lunasonde, where would he like to work?<br /> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Lunasonde’s website — https://www.lunasonde.com/</p><p>Lunasonde’s socials — https://x.com/Lunasonde/</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes<br /> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays</p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week on Pathfinder, we’re joined by Jeremiah Pate, founder and CEO of Lunasonde, a company pioneering subsurface imaging from space. Lunasonde is developing technology to map the Earth’s underground, leveraging low-frequency synthetic aperture radar (SAR) to identify critical minerals and resources.</p><p>With two satellites launched and the first full-tech satellite in their constellation set to launch in July, this episode dives into how Lunasonde is reshaping resource exploration. We also discuss:</p><ul><li>Lunasonde’s founding story and Jeremiah’s inspiration for the company</li><li>The fundamentals of subsurface SAR and how it differs from traditional radar technologies</li><li>The company’s royalty-based business model and its potential to disrupt the critical minerals industry</li><li>Real-world applications, including a breakthrough discovery of a previously unknown copper deposit</li><li>The long-term vision for Lunasonde, including applications beyond Earth and mapping resources on the Moon and asteroids</li><li>Insights on the challenges of scaling a space startup and navigating regulatory barriers</li></ul><p>And more…</p><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 Intro</p><p>03:04 What is SAR?</p><p>05:19 What is subsurface?</p><p>06:29 Critical minerals and Lunasonde's approach to the market</p><p>07:49 Size & demand</p><p>10:20 System architecture</p><p>11:28 Lunasonde's launches</p><p>12:02 Interpreting SAR data</p><p>13:27 SubSAR vs seismic imaging or ground penetrating radar</p><p>15:25 Environmental reasons behind building subSAR</p><p>16:22 How to ensure accuracy and reliability of the data</p><p>17:08 Corona satellites</p><p>20:48 How does Lunasonde convince ideal customers to embrace new technologies?</p><p>22:48 Examples of discovering new deposits</p><p>24:09 Lunasonde's competitors</p><p>26:02 Why do people think subSAR is impossible?</p><p>27:12 Going beyond the Earth</p><p>28:39 Other revenue models</p><p>30:27 Commercial vs government traction</p><p>31:27 Is Lunasonde looking for partnerships with space mining startups?</p><p>32:14 Scaling path</p><p>33:09 Funding</p><p>34:11 What keeps Jeremiah up at night?</p><p>34:52 Long-term vision</p><p>36:53 Could orgs like NASA use Lunasonde's capabilities for more intensive resource hunting missions?</p><p>38:28 What would Jeremiah like to change in the space industry?</p><p>40:51 If Jeremiah wasn't working at Lunasonde, where would he like to work?<br /> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Lunasonde’s website — https://www.lunasonde.com/</p><p>Lunasonde’s socials — https://x.com/Lunasonde/</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes<br /> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays</p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <itunes:title>Subsurface Vision, with Jeremiah Pate (CEO of Lunasonde)</itunes:title>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week on Pathfinder, we’re joined by Awais Ahmed, founder and CEO of Pixxel, a company focused on developing hyperspectral imaging technology from space. Pixxel is developing the world’s first commercial hyperspectral satellite constellation, aiming to provide detailed insights into critical industries like agriculture, energy, and defense.</p><p>With the recent launch of three Firefly satellites—the first in Pixxel’s commercial fleet—this episode explores the company’s progress and vision for the future of Earth observation. We also discuss:</p><ul><li>Pixxel’s founding story and Awais’ background in satellite engineering and Hyperloop competitions</li><li>The fundamentals of hyperspectral imaging and its advantages over traditional imaging methods</li><li>Pixxel’s satellite constellation plans and how they’re balancing commercial and government markets</li><li>The role of AI in satellite imaging and its potential to unlock new applications</li><li>Awais’ take on the evolving Earth observation market and the challenges of scaling a space startup</li></ul><p>And more…</p><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p>00:48 - Impact of the new administration</p><p>02:32 - The story behind Pixxel</p><p>07:37 - Hyperspectral imaging</p><p>11:14 - How hyperspectral fits into the other types of satellite imaging</p><p>15:01 - How big is the satellite imaging market today?</p><p>17:30 - Government uses and advancements in hyperspectral</p><p>21:30 - Established commercial vs growing government markets</p><p>25:23 - What does Pixxel's constellation look like?</p><p>27:22 - Firefly vs Honeybee</p><p>28:03 - Customer experience at Pixxel</p><p>29:46 - AI's impact</p><p>33:44 - Most valuable part of the EO stack</p><p>36:05 - Starlink architecture and other EO businesses</p><p>37:49 - Pixxel's commercial traction</p><p>39:27 - What's a good margin profile?</p><p>42:01 - Valuation of public EO businesses</p><p>45:19 - Raising private capital in EO and fundraising plans</p><p>48:37 - Pixxel in 2035</p><p>50:22 - What else excites Awais besides EO?</p><p>51:29 - Pixxel's US office<br /> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Pixxel’s website — https://www.pixxel.space/</p><p>Pixxel’s socials — https://x.com/PixxelSpace</p><p>Awais’ socials — https://x.com/awaisahmedna</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes<br /> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays</p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week on Pathfinder, we’re joined by Awais Ahmed, founder and CEO of Pixxel, a company focused on developing hyperspectral imaging technology from space. Pixxel is developing the world’s first commercial hyperspectral satellite constellation, aiming to provide detailed insights into critical industries like agriculture, energy, and defense.</p><p>With the recent launch of three Firefly satellites—the first in Pixxel’s commercial fleet—this episode explores the company’s progress and vision for the future of Earth observation. We also discuss:</p><ul><li>Pixxel’s founding story and Awais’ background in satellite engineering and Hyperloop competitions</li><li>The fundamentals of hyperspectral imaging and its advantages over traditional imaging methods</li><li>Pixxel’s satellite constellation plans and how they’re balancing commercial and government markets</li><li>The role of AI in satellite imaging and its potential to unlock new applications</li><li>Awais’ take on the evolving Earth observation market and the challenges of scaling a space startup</li></ul><p>And more…</p><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p>00:48 - Impact of the new administration</p><p>02:32 - The story behind Pixxel</p><p>07:37 - Hyperspectral imaging</p><p>11:14 - How hyperspectral fits into the other types of satellite imaging</p><p>15:01 - How big is the satellite imaging market today?</p><p>17:30 - Government uses and advancements in hyperspectral</p><p>21:30 - Established commercial vs growing government markets</p><p>25:23 - What does Pixxel's constellation look like?</p><p>27:22 - Firefly vs Honeybee</p><p>28:03 - Customer experience at Pixxel</p><p>29:46 - AI's impact</p><p>33:44 - Most valuable part of the EO stack</p><p>36:05 - Starlink architecture and other EO businesses</p><p>37:49 - Pixxel's commercial traction</p><p>39:27 - What's a good margin profile?</p><p>42:01 - Valuation of public EO businesses</p><p>45:19 - Raising private capital in EO and fundraising plans</p><p>48:37 - Pixxel in 2035</p><p>50:22 - What else excites Awais besides EO?</p><p>51:29 - Pixxel's US office<br /> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Pixxel’s website — https://www.pixxel.space/</p><p>Pixxel’s socials — https://x.com/PixxelSpace</p><p>Awais’ socials — https://x.com/awaisahmedna</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes<br /> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays</p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week on Pathfinder, we welcome Adam Draper, founder and managing director of Boost VC, an early-stage venture capital firm based in San Mateo, CA, specializing in pre-seed deals in deep tech, including space.</p><p>Boost VC’s track record includes early investments in space companies such as Varda, Starfish Space, and K2 Space. This episode explores the philosophy and strategy behind the firm’s approach to venture capital.</p><p>In addition, we discuss:</p><ul><li>Adam’s journey into VC and the Draper family legacy in the industry</li><li>The firm’s commitment to backing “impossible” ideas and frontier technologies</li><li>Insights into investing in deep tech, from identifying committed founders to understanding market risks</li><li>The importance of storytelling and momentum in aerospace and defense startups</li><li>Boost’s role in shaping the future of space industries, from lunar water mining to satellite servicing and space manufacturing</li><li>Predictions for the future of space and deep tech, including the rise of biopharma in orbit and even the search for extraterrestrial life</li></ul><p>And much more…</p><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p>00:45 - Adam's background</p><p>07:48 - Boost VC</p><p>11:57 - How do you tell a founder has commitment?</p><p>14:04 - Signs of a founder with a real interest in space</p><p>17:54 - Making the case for the space market</p><p>20:51 - On the frontier</p><p>23:01 - Signs Adam looks for when he needs to step in and direct a company</p><p>28:20 - Investing in software vs. deep tech</p><p>30:43 - Early-stage pre-seed investing</p><p>38:07 - How would a founder differentiate themselves when it comes to fundraising?</p><p>43:25 - How to stay ahead of the curve with investing in space</p><p>48:36 - Craziest space deal Adam has invested in</p><p>51:46 - Adam's 2025 predictions</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Boost VC website — https://www.boost.vc/</p><p>Boost’s socials — https://x.com/BoostVC</p><p>Adam’s socials — https://x.com/AdamDraper</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes<br /> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays</p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 14 Jan 2025 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week on Pathfinder, we welcome Adam Draper, founder and managing director of Boost VC, an early-stage venture capital firm based in San Mateo, CA, specializing in pre-seed deals in deep tech, including space.</p><p>Boost VC’s track record includes early investments in space companies such as Varda, Starfish Space, and K2 Space. This episode explores the philosophy and strategy behind the firm’s approach to venture capital.</p><p>In addition, we discuss:</p><ul><li>Adam’s journey into VC and the Draper family legacy in the industry</li><li>The firm’s commitment to backing “impossible” ideas and frontier technologies</li><li>Insights into investing in deep tech, from identifying committed founders to understanding market risks</li><li>The importance of storytelling and momentum in aerospace and defense startups</li><li>Boost’s role in shaping the future of space industries, from lunar water mining to satellite servicing and space manufacturing</li><li>Predictions for the future of space and deep tech, including the rise of biopharma in orbit and even the search for extraterrestrial life</li></ul><p>And much more…</p><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p>00:45 - Adam's background</p><p>07:48 - Boost VC</p><p>11:57 - How do you tell a founder has commitment?</p><p>14:04 - Signs of a founder with a real interest in space</p><p>17:54 - Making the case for the space market</p><p>20:51 - On the frontier</p><p>23:01 - Signs Adam looks for when he needs to step in and direct a company</p><p>28:20 - Investing in software vs. deep tech</p><p>30:43 - Early-stage pre-seed investing</p><p>38:07 - How would a founder differentiate themselves when it comes to fundraising?</p><p>43:25 - How to stay ahead of the curve with investing in space</p><p>48:36 - Craziest space deal Adam has invested in</p><p>51:46 - Adam's 2025 predictions</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Boost VC website — https://www.boost.vc/</p><p>Boost’s socials — https://x.com/BoostVC</p><p>Adam’s socials — https://x.com/AdamDraper</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes<br /> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays</p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week on Pathfinder, we’re ready to kick off 2025 with our first episode back from a brief holiday hiatus. Joining us is Stefan Powell, co-founder and CEO of Dawn Aerospace—a company focused on building scalable, sustainable space transportation solutions. After cutting their teeth with an in-space propulsion business, Dawn is now pushing the boundaries with Aurora, a rocket-powered plane that recently breaking the sound barrier (or Mach 1).</p><p>In this episode, we explore:</p><ul><li>From Student Rocket Club to Thriving Venture: Stefan’s background and how his early rocketry experiences shaped Dawn’s mission.</li><li>Satellite Propulsion: Why Dawn’s safer, scalable alternatives to traditional satellite fuel are gaining traction in the market—and how they enable near-term revenue.</li><li>Aurora’s Breakthrough Flight: Hitting Mach 1.1, testing supersonic aerodynamics, and the path toward suborbital flight capabilities.</li><li>Hypersonics & Beyond: Why government R&D and military programs are pouring billions into hypersonics research—and how Dawn plans to help solve the “access-to-test-time” gap.</li><li>Aircraft-Like Space Access: Dawn’s long-term vision for truly rapid, reusable, runway-based vehicles that could revolutionize launch operations.</li><li>Building for the Future, One Step at a Time: How Stefan thinks about scaling, capital efficiency, and bridging near-term commercial opportunities with an ambitious roadmap.</li></ul><p>…and much, more.<br /><br /> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00:00 - Intro</p><p>00:01:45 - Founding Dawn</p><p>00:06:33 - Core products</p><p>00:08:52 - Sustainability</p><p>00:11:25 - How Stefan got into the space industry</p><p>00:16:20 - What Stefan is developing with Aurora</p><p>00:19:09 - Recent flight</p><p>00:20:38 - Why is it important to go past Mach 1?</p><p>00:24:02 - Technical milestones before full orbital capabilities</p><p>00:26:43 - Hypersonics and building commercial ability</p><p>00:30:23 - Government customers</p><p>00:31:39 - Opportunities in hypersonic weapons?</p><p>00:33:02 - Payload capacity of first commercial launch vehicle</p><p>00:33:58 - Long-term scaling goals</p><p>00:37:15 - What is so difficult about building commercial hypersonic platforms?</p><p>00:42:05 - Most significant hurdles when it comes to scaling and manufacturing</p><p>00:44:32 - Building in New Zealand</p><p>00:46:38 - Revenue mix</p><p>00:48:15 - Capital efficiency</p><p>00:51:47 - Effect of Starship on the launch market</p><p>00:53:42 - What does success look like for Dawn over the next 10 years</p><p>00:56:25 - What Stefan has learned about being a CEO/Founder for 15 years</p><p>00:58:11 - Everything's on the table</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Dawn’s website — https://www.dawnaerospace.com/</p><p>Dawn’s socials — https://x.com/DawnAerospace</p><p>Stefan’s socials — https://x.com/Stefan__Powell</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays</p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 7 Jan 2025 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Quick PSA: This is our final Pathfinder episode of 2024! We’re so grateful for your support and can’t wait to bring you more content and a new format next year. Stay tuned!</p><p>In our third and final episode of our special three-part Pathfinder series on lunar architecture—brought to you by our partners at Lockheed Martin—we’re focusing on how nuclear-enabled technologies will power and propel a sustainable future on the Moon. This episode ties together the insights from the series and offers a vision of how energy systems will enable humans to survive on the lunar surface and venture deeper into the solar system.</p><p>Joining us are Kerry Timmons, Senior Manager of Business Development at Lockheed Martin for Lunar Infrastructure, and Joe Miller, President of BWXT Advanced Technologies. Together, they share their perspective on the role nuclear power and propulsion play in supporting a long-term presence on the Moon.</p><p>We also discuss:</p><ul><li>How nuclear technologies provide reliable power during the lunar night and beyond</li><li>The engineering challenges and solutions for deploying nuclear systems</li><li>The interplay between nuclear and solar energy in a resilient lunar grid</li><li>Applications for nuclear thermal propulsion</li><li>The collaborative efforts required across government, industry, and international partners to make this a reality</li></ul><p>And much, much more…</p><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00:00 - Intro</p><p>00:01:05 - Joe's background</p><p>00:02:47 - Kerry's background</p><p>00:04:19 - Vision for a thriving lunar infrastructure</p><p>00:07:13 - Nuclear and space</p><p>00:08:48 - Lockheed's history with nuclear</p><p>00:10:23 - Lessons from history that make current power systems in space more efficient</p><p>00:13:00 - Nuclear's importance for a sustained lunar presence</p><p>00:16:09 - Engineering challenges</p><p>00:18:54 - How does mass play a role in the design of the nuclear reactor?</p><p>00:20:24 - What will these reactors power?</p><p>00:22:04 - Regulation & safety</p><p>00:25:22 - Space Policy Directive – 6</p><p>00:27:03 - International alignment</p><p>00:30:24 - Propulsion</p><p>00:34:30 - Chemical vs. nuclear propulsion</p><p>00:38:53 - When will nuclear systems be ready for use?</p><p>00:40:06 - Economic reason for using nuclear propulsion</p><p>00:43:34 - Terrestrial application for nuclear</p><p>00:44:40 - Startup capabilities that Lockheed is interested in</p><p>00:47:25 - What tech breakthrough would you prioritize for the Moon?</p><p>00:49:36 - Innovation predictions in the next 10 years<br /> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Lockheed Martin’s website — https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/capabilities/space/human-space-exploration/water-based-lunar-architecture/lockheed-martins-lunar-architecture-novella-white-paper.html</p><p>Lockheed Martin Space’ socials — https://twitter.com/LMSpace</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes<br /> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays</p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quick PSA: This is our final Pathfinder episode of 2024! We’re so grateful for your support and can’t wait to bring you more content and a new format next year. Stay tuned!</p><p>In our third and final episode of our special three-part Pathfinder series on lunar architecture—brought to you by our partners at Lockheed Martin—we’re focusing on how nuclear-enabled technologies will power and propel a sustainable future on the Moon. This episode ties together the insights from the series and offers a vision of how energy systems will enable humans to survive on the lunar surface and venture deeper into the solar system.</p><p>Joining us are Kerry Timmons, Senior Manager of Business Development at Lockheed Martin for Lunar Infrastructure, and Joe Miller, President of BWXT Advanced Technologies. Together, they share their perspective on the role nuclear power and propulsion play in supporting a long-term presence on the Moon.</p><p>We also discuss:</p><ul><li>How nuclear technologies provide reliable power during the lunar night and beyond</li><li>The engineering challenges and solutions for deploying nuclear systems</li><li>The interplay between nuclear and solar energy in a resilient lunar grid</li><li>Applications for nuclear thermal propulsion</li><li>The collaborative efforts required across government, industry, and international partners to make this a reality</li></ul><p>And much, much more…</p><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00:00 - Intro</p><p>00:01:05 - Joe's background</p><p>00:02:47 - Kerry's background</p><p>00:04:19 - Vision for a thriving lunar infrastructure</p><p>00:07:13 - Nuclear and space</p><p>00:08:48 - Lockheed's history with nuclear</p><p>00:10:23 - Lessons from history that make current power systems in space more efficient</p><p>00:13:00 - Nuclear's importance for a sustained lunar presence</p><p>00:16:09 - Engineering challenges</p><p>00:18:54 - How does mass play a role in the design of the nuclear reactor?</p><p>00:20:24 - What will these reactors power?</p><p>00:22:04 - Regulation & safety</p><p>00:25:22 - Space Policy Directive – 6</p><p>00:27:03 - International alignment</p><p>00:30:24 - Propulsion</p><p>00:34:30 - Chemical vs. nuclear propulsion</p><p>00:38:53 - When will nuclear systems be ready for use?</p><p>00:40:06 - Economic reason for using nuclear propulsion</p><p>00:43:34 - Terrestrial application for nuclear</p><p>00:44:40 - Startup capabilities that Lockheed is interested in</p><p>00:47:25 - What tech breakthrough would you prioritize for the Moon?</p><p>00:49:36 - Innovation predictions in the next 10 years<br /> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Lockheed Martin’s website — https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/capabilities/space/human-space-exploration/water-based-lunar-architecture/lockheed-martins-lunar-architecture-novella-white-paper.html</p><p>Lockheed Martin Space’ socials — https://twitter.com/LMSpace</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes<br /> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays</p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 5 Dec 2024 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week on Pathfinder, we’re kicking off a special three-part series on lunar architecture, brought to you by our friends at Lockheed Martin. To kick off the series, we’re exploring the future of lunar architecture more broadly with Rob Chambers, Director of Strategy for Human Space Exploration at Lockheed Martin, and Alex MacDonald, Chief Economist at NASA. </p><p>In this episode, Alex and Rob share their perspectives on the complexities of building sustainable lunar missions and the critical technologies shaping the future. The discussion dives into the integration of international collaboration, public-private partnerships, and groundbreaking innovations that will enable humanity’s return to the Moon and its next steps across the solar system.</p><p>We also cover:</p><ul><li>NASA’s Artemis program and the Moon-to-Mars exploration strategy</li><li>The role of international and commercial partnerships in advancing lunar missions</li><li>Foundational infrastructure, including habitats, rovers, and nuclear power systems</li><li>Lessons from Apollo and how they inform today’s approach to sustainable lunar exploration</li><li>The evolving lunar economy and what it might mean for humanity’s future in space</li></ul><p>And much, much more...</p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p>01:25 - Rob's and Alex's background</p><p>04:22 - NASA's vision for the Moon</p><p>09:15 - NASA and Lockheed: their history with the Moon</p><p>13:36 - Lessons from previous Lunar missions</p><p>16:34 - What has changed to allow partnerships to be more efficient?</p><p>25:13 - Challenges working with international agencies</p><p>30:35 - Helium-3 mining and other lunar business models</p><p>37:14 - Lockheed's Lunar Roadmap</p><p>43:05 - Who are the other players in the Artemis program and collaboration?</p><p>49:56 - Resiliency and risk</p><p>55:13 - End goals for Lunar missions in the next 100 years</p><p>01:02:41 - When are we landing on the Moon?</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Lockheed Martin’s website — https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/capabilities/space/human-space-exploration/water-based-lunar-architecture/lockheed-martins-lunar-architecture-novella-white-paper.html</p><p>Lockheed Martin Space’ socials — https://twitter.com/LMSpace</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><p><br />• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays</p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 3 Dec 2024 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>mo@arkaeamedia.com (Arkaea Media (Payload | Ignition | Tectonic))</author>
      <link>https://pod.payloadspace.com/</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week on Pathfinder, we’re kicking off a special three-part series on lunar architecture, brought to you by our friends at Lockheed Martin. To kick off the series, we’re exploring the future of lunar architecture more broadly with Rob Chambers, Director of Strategy for Human Space Exploration at Lockheed Martin, and Alex MacDonald, Chief Economist at NASA. </p><p>In this episode, Alex and Rob share their perspectives on the complexities of building sustainable lunar missions and the critical technologies shaping the future. The discussion dives into the integration of international collaboration, public-private partnerships, and groundbreaking innovations that will enable humanity’s return to the Moon and its next steps across the solar system.</p><p>We also cover:</p><ul><li>NASA’s Artemis program and the Moon-to-Mars exploration strategy</li><li>The role of international and commercial partnerships in advancing lunar missions</li><li>Foundational infrastructure, including habitats, rovers, and nuclear power systems</li><li>Lessons from Apollo and how they inform today’s approach to sustainable lunar exploration</li><li>The evolving lunar economy and what it might mean for humanity’s future in space</li></ul><p>And much, much more...</p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p>01:25 - Rob's and Alex's background</p><p>04:22 - NASA's vision for the Moon</p><p>09:15 - NASA and Lockheed: their history with the Moon</p><p>13:36 - Lessons from previous Lunar missions</p><p>16:34 - What has changed to allow partnerships to be more efficient?</p><p>25:13 - Challenges working with international agencies</p><p>30:35 - Helium-3 mining and other lunar business models</p><p>37:14 - Lockheed's Lunar Roadmap</p><p>43:05 - Who are the other players in the Artemis program and collaboration?</p><p>49:56 - Resiliency and risk</p><p>55:13 - End goals for Lunar missions in the next 100 years</p><p>01:02:41 - When are we landing on the Moon?</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Lockheed Martin’s website — https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/capabilities/space/human-space-exploration/water-based-lunar-architecture/lockheed-martins-lunar-architecture-novella-white-paper.html</p><p>Lockheed Martin Space’ socials — https://twitter.com/LMSpace</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><p><br />• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays</p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week on Pathfinder, we are joined by Chris Morales, Partner at Point72 Ventures, for a discussion on venture capital’s role in shaping the space and defense technology landscape. </p><p>In this episode, Chris provides a detailed overview of Point72 Ventures’ strategic approach to investing, drawing on his background as a former naval officer and his experience in venture capital. The conversation covers key trends and challenges facing the space and defense sectors, with a focus on how startups can navigate this evolving ecosystem.</p><p>In addition, we discuss:</p><ul><li>Point72 Ventures’ investment framework and focus on emerging technologies critical to national security</li><li>The growth of the space economy, from the adoption of proliferated LEO architectures to in-space mobility innovations</li><li>Evaluating companies across different stages of maturity</li><li>The role of government programs and non-dilutive funding</li><li>SpaceX’s impact on market dynamics and its broader implications for venture-backed companies</li><li>Structural and financial barriers that space and defense startups face, and how investors can help address them</li></ul><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p>01:02 - Chris's Thanksgiving must-haves</p><p>02:15 - Point72 Ventures overview</p><p>05:35 - History with space</p><p>06:42 - Why did Point72 Ventures first get into space?</p><p>09:00 - Chris's thesis about the space industry</p><p>10:49 - Proliferated LEO</p><p>12:11 - Predictive work and investments</p><p>13:02 - At what stage in a company is Point72 Ventures looking to invest?</p><p>13:53 - How does space fit into the investment strategy?</p><p>15:51 - What happens when a portfolio company isn't hitting their milestones?</p><p>17:12 - The process</p><p>18:39 - How Point72 Ventures separates itself and what it provides beyond capital</p><p>20:31 - Public and private sides of the firm</p><p>21:13 - Market dynamics</p><p>24:05 - Is there enough government funding for startups, and are they winning enough contracts?</p><p>27:29 - Does SpaceX's valuation make sense?</p><p>29:47 - Starship vs. Starlink business prediction</p><p>32:42 - Is SpaceX a monopoly?</p><p>33:26 - Is SpaceX a concern when it comes to investing in the industry?</p><p>35:04 - Biggest issues facing startups today and how can investors help</p><p>39:04 - Over and under-hyped areas of the market</p><p>40:36 - Space ventures in the next decade</p><p>42:25 - Gaps in the market</p><p>43:37 - Advice to founders looking to start a space company</p><p>45:00 - Mars</p><p>47:00 - What does Chris do for fun?</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Point72 Ventures’ website — https://p72.vc/</p><p>Point 72 Ventures’ socials — https://x.com/p72vc</p><p>Chris’ socials — https://x.com/MrChrisMorales</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays<br /> </p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2024 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week on Pathfinder, we are joined by Chris Morales, Partner at Point72 Ventures, for a discussion on venture capital’s role in shaping the space and defense technology landscape. </p><p>In this episode, Chris provides a detailed overview of Point72 Ventures’ strategic approach to investing, drawing on his background as a former naval officer and his experience in venture capital. The conversation covers key trends and challenges facing the space and defense sectors, with a focus on how startups can navigate this evolving ecosystem.</p><p>In addition, we discuss:</p><ul><li>Point72 Ventures’ investment framework and focus on emerging technologies critical to national security</li><li>The growth of the space economy, from the adoption of proliferated LEO architectures to in-space mobility innovations</li><li>Evaluating companies across different stages of maturity</li><li>The role of government programs and non-dilutive funding</li><li>SpaceX’s impact on market dynamics and its broader implications for venture-backed companies</li><li>Structural and financial barriers that space and defense startups face, and how investors can help address them</li></ul><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p>01:02 - Chris's Thanksgiving must-haves</p><p>02:15 - Point72 Ventures overview</p><p>05:35 - History with space</p><p>06:42 - Why did Point72 Ventures first get into space?</p><p>09:00 - Chris's thesis about the space industry</p><p>10:49 - Proliferated LEO</p><p>12:11 - Predictive work and investments</p><p>13:02 - At what stage in a company is Point72 Ventures looking to invest?</p><p>13:53 - How does space fit into the investment strategy?</p><p>15:51 - What happens when a portfolio company isn't hitting their milestones?</p><p>17:12 - The process</p><p>18:39 - How Point72 Ventures separates itself and what it provides beyond capital</p><p>20:31 - Public and private sides of the firm</p><p>21:13 - Market dynamics</p><p>24:05 - Is there enough government funding for startups, and are they winning enough contracts?</p><p>27:29 - Does SpaceX's valuation make sense?</p><p>29:47 - Starship vs. Starlink business prediction</p><p>32:42 - Is SpaceX a monopoly?</p><p>33:26 - Is SpaceX a concern when it comes to investing in the industry?</p><p>35:04 - Biggest issues facing startups today and how can investors help</p><p>39:04 - Over and under-hyped areas of the market</p><p>40:36 - Space ventures in the next decade</p><p>42:25 - Gaps in the market</p><p>43:37 - Advice to founders looking to start a space company</p><p>45:00 - Mars</p><p>47:00 - What does Chris do for fun?</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Point72 Ventures’ website — https://p72.vc/</p><p>Point 72 Ventures’ socials — https://x.com/p72vc</p><p>Chris’ socials — https://x.com/MrChrisMorales</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays<br /> </p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week on Pathfinder, we’re excited to welcome the one and only Peter Beck, founder and CEO of Rocket Lab. Rocket Lab continues to solidify its position as a leading end-to-end space company, offering launch services, spacecraft platforms, and in-house satellite manufacturing.</p><p>In light of Rocket Lab’s Q3 earnings report, which saw a 55% year-over-year revenue increase and a growing backlog of over $1B, this episode dives deep into the company’s strategic and operational decisions driving its success.</p><p>In addition, we discuss:</p><ul><li>Rocket Lab’s journey from its early days to becoming the world’s third most frequent launch provider</li><li>The development of Neutron and its significance in addressing medium-class launch demand</li><li>Peter’s philosophy on efficient engineering and capital allocation</li><li>The rise of Rocket Lab’s spacecraft business and its role in the company’s end-to-end space strategy</li><li>Insights into launch market dynamics, from smallsat needs to Starship’s impact on the industry</li></ul><p>And much more...<br /> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p>00:34 - Where is Peter Beck?</p><p>01:20 - Space and the coming administration</p><p>02:05 - Rocket Lab in the market and where they're going</p><p>03:42 - Neutron's first launch</p><p>04:24 - What's next after Neutron?</p><p>05:41 - What will be the most dominant aspect of Rocket Lab in the future?</p><p>07:10 - Hypersonics</p><p>08:51 - Electron demand vs. supply</p><p>10:02 - Electron after Neutron</p><p>13:05 - Neutron's development timeline</p><p>16:07 - How does Neutron compare to Falcon 9?</p><p>17:20 - Neutron launch cadence</p><p>18:12 - What leads to capital efficiency?</p><p>21:03 - How Rocket Lab created successful projects</p><p>23:04 - Aesthetics vs Engineering</p><p>24:26 - SDA contract and de-risking</p><p>25:23 - Why build both spacecraft and launch vehicles?</p><p>27:33 - Why own and operate your own constellation?</p><p>29:56 - DoD's proliferated LEO satellite services program</p><p>30:40 - Frank Klein joining Rocket Lab</p><p>31:50 - Operations and scaling philosophy</p><p>33:25 - Outlook of the supply and demand for launch market</p><p>35:13 - Is there still room for new launch startups?</p><p>36:46 - Future of launch outside the US</p><p>38:30 - Timeline on human spaceflight at Rocket Lab</p><p>40:01 - Most strategic or technical risk that Rocket Lab currently faces</p><p>41:14 - Rocket Lab and the Moon</p><p>43:24 - Things to embrace in order to build a successful company</p><p>44:30 - What keeps Peter up at night?</p><p>45:16 - When will the space industry be welcomed by the public markets?</p><p>49:20 - Things Peter is keeping an eye on</p><p>51:03 - Date for humans on Moon and Mars<br /> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Rocket Lab's website — https://www.rocketlabusa.com/</p><p>Rocket Lab’s socials — https://x.com/RocketLab</p><p>Peter's socials — https://x.com/Peter_J_Beck</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays</p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week on Pathfinder, we’re excited to welcome the one and only Peter Beck, founder and CEO of Rocket Lab. Rocket Lab continues to solidify its position as a leading end-to-end space company, offering launch services, spacecraft platforms, and in-house satellite manufacturing.</p><p>In light of Rocket Lab’s Q3 earnings report, which saw a 55% year-over-year revenue increase and a growing backlog of over $1B, this episode dives deep into the company’s strategic and operational decisions driving its success.</p><p>In addition, we discuss:</p><ul><li>Rocket Lab’s journey from its early days to becoming the world’s third most frequent launch provider</li><li>The development of Neutron and its significance in addressing medium-class launch demand</li><li>Peter’s philosophy on efficient engineering and capital allocation</li><li>The rise of Rocket Lab’s spacecraft business and its role in the company’s end-to-end space strategy</li><li>Insights into launch market dynamics, from smallsat needs to Starship’s impact on the industry</li></ul><p>And much more...<br /> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p>00:34 - Where is Peter Beck?</p><p>01:20 - Space and the coming administration</p><p>02:05 - Rocket Lab in the market and where they're going</p><p>03:42 - Neutron's first launch</p><p>04:24 - What's next after Neutron?</p><p>05:41 - What will be the most dominant aspect of Rocket Lab in the future?</p><p>07:10 - Hypersonics</p><p>08:51 - Electron demand vs. supply</p><p>10:02 - Electron after Neutron</p><p>13:05 - Neutron's development timeline</p><p>16:07 - How does Neutron compare to Falcon 9?</p><p>17:20 - Neutron launch cadence</p><p>18:12 - What leads to capital efficiency?</p><p>21:03 - How Rocket Lab created successful projects</p><p>23:04 - Aesthetics vs Engineering</p><p>24:26 - SDA contract and de-risking</p><p>25:23 - Why build both spacecraft and launch vehicles?</p><p>27:33 - Why own and operate your own constellation?</p><p>29:56 - DoD's proliferated LEO satellite services program</p><p>30:40 - Frank Klein joining Rocket Lab</p><p>31:50 - Operations and scaling philosophy</p><p>33:25 - Outlook of the supply and demand for launch market</p><p>35:13 - Is there still room for new launch startups?</p><p>36:46 - Future of launch outside the US</p><p>38:30 - Timeline on human spaceflight at Rocket Lab</p><p>40:01 - Most strategic or technical risk that Rocket Lab currently faces</p><p>41:14 - Rocket Lab and the Moon</p><p>43:24 - Things to embrace in order to build a successful company</p><p>44:30 - What keeps Peter up at night?</p><p>45:16 - When will the space industry be welcomed by the public markets?</p><p>49:20 - Things Peter is keeping an eye on</p><p>51:03 - Date for humans on Moon and Mars<br /> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Rocket Lab's website — https://www.rocketlabusa.com/</p><p>Rocket Lab’s socials — https://x.com/RocketLab</p><p>Peter's socials — https://x.com/Peter_J_Beck</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays</p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week on Pathfinder, we explore the world of satellite deployment and launch services with Robert Sproles, CEO of Exolaunch. Exolaunch is a leader in satellite integration, offering launch services and deployment solutions for commercial and government clients.</p><p>We explore how Exolaunch has built a cashflow-positive business with a remarkable track record of reliability, all without external funding. In addition, we discuss:</p><ul><li>Exolaunch's founding story and its bootstrapped growth from a university project in Berlin to a $100M revenue company</li><li>How Exolaunch navigates partnerships with major launch providers like SpaceX, Rocket Lab, and Ariane</li><li>Robert’s insights on the demand for satellite launches and the need for diversity in orbital access</li><li>Exolaunch's plans for the future, including scaling to support larger satellites and expanding their U.S. operations</li><li>The broader ecosystem of launch services and how larger rockets like Starship and New Glenn fit into the market</li></ul><p>And much more...</p><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p>00:30 - Robert's background</p><p>08:13 - What is Exolaunch and the products offered?</p><p>10:02 - Founding of Exolaunch and building a company without the need for raising capital</p><p>14:09 - Bootstrap from day one and future funding plans</p><p>16:35 - From Arkansas to Germany</p><p>19:02 - Robert transitioning to CEO</p><p>21:16 - Current market for rideshare, deployment, and mission management</p><p>23:45 - What is different about Exolaunch?</p><p>25:48 - Are more launch companies good for Exolaunch and is SpaceX a monopoly?</p><p>27:02 - Are transporter missions anti-competitive to other launch companies?</p><p>30:13 - Future satellite trends</p><p>31:42 - How larger launch vehicles affect Exolaunch</p><p>33:33 - Is the launch market supplier demand constrained?</p><p>35:35 - How do non-American operators feel about using American launch providers?</p><p>37:39 - What does reliability look like?</p><p>40:08 - Exolaunch's agility</p><p>43:34 - Missions that pushed the boundaries of Exolaunch's capabilities</p><p>45:36 - Exolaunch headcount and future plans</p><p>46:32 - Growth areas</p><p>47:37 - 10+ year outlook</p><p>49:07 - What does Robert do outside of Exolaunch?</p><p>52:26 - Places to eat in Little Rock, Arkansas</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Exolaunch’s website — https://exolaunch.com/</p><p>Freeform’s socials — https://twitter.com/Exolaunch</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays</p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this week’s pod, we dive into the world of space-based solar power with Baiju Bhatt, co-founder of Robinhood and now founder of Aetherflux, a new startup aiming to change how we think about energy from space. Baiju takes us on his personal journey from building a public company to tackling one of the most ambitious ideas in the space industry. Drawing on a lifelong passion for space—rooted in his father's work at NASA—Baiju reveals how Aetherflux plans to bring to life a 1970s sci-fi vision: harnessing solar power from space to solve Earth’s most pressing energy challenges.</p><p>Baiju shares the challenges and excitement of launching Aetherflux, and how his team is taking a modern approach to an old concept by using advanced laser technology and modular satellite networks. We also discuss:</p><ul><li>How Aetherflux is developing the first practical demonstration of space-based solar power</li><li>The major potential applications, from powering forward-deployed military bases to remote mining sites</li><li>How his experience at Robinhood shaped his entrepreneurial philosophy for solving massive challenges like global energy</li><li>Aetherflux’s ambitious timeline for a demo mission in 2026</li></ul><p>And much more...</p><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p>00:44 - Robinhood to space</p><p>03:51 - A father's influence</p><p>06:54 - Why Aetherflux?</p><p>11:15 - Natural resources in space</p><p>12:18 - Why do we need solar power in space?</p><p>13:53 - Market and applications for space solar</p><p>19:53 - Lasers for power transmission</p><p>23:02 - Efficiency gain / loss with space solar</p><p>26:06 - Real time power delivery</p><p>29:21 - Why not nuclear?</p><p>31:37 - Space-based solar for space</p><p>32:28 - Safety and regulation</p><p>34:37 - Economics of space solar</p><p>38:06 - Constellations at scale</p><p>39:06 - Early revenue model</p><p>40:09 - Competitors</p><p>41:05 - Funding</p><p>44:05 - An Apple moment</p><p>48:19 - Aetherflux team, growth, and goals</p><p>49:26 - Space startups that Baiju is excited about</p><p>51:20 - Who would Baiju choose to play him in a movie?</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Aetherflux’s website — https://www.aetherflux.com/</p><p>Aetherflux’s socials — https://twitter.com/AetherfluxUSA</p><p>Baiju’s socials — https://twitter.com/BaijuBhatt</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays</p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 22 Oct 2024 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this week’s pod, we dive into the world of space-based solar power with Baiju Bhatt, co-founder of Robinhood and now founder of Aetherflux, a new startup aiming to change how we think about energy from space. Baiju takes us on his personal journey from building a public company to tackling one of the most ambitious ideas in the space industry. Drawing on a lifelong passion for space—rooted in his father's work at NASA—Baiju reveals how Aetherflux plans to bring to life a 1970s sci-fi vision: harnessing solar power from space to solve Earth’s most pressing energy challenges.</p><p>Baiju shares the challenges and excitement of launching Aetherflux, and how his team is taking a modern approach to an old concept by using advanced laser technology and modular satellite networks. We also discuss:</p><ul><li>How Aetherflux is developing the first practical demonstration of space-based solar power</li><li>The major potential applications, from powering forward-deployed military bases to remote mining sites</li><li>How his experience at Robinhood shaped his entrepreneurial philosophy for solving massive challenges like global energy</li><li>Aetherflux’s ambitious timeline for a demo mission in 2026</li></ul><p>And much more...</p><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p>00:44 - Robinhood to space</p><p>03:51 - A father's influence</p><p>06:54 - Why Aetherflux?</p><p>11:15 - Natural resources in space</p><p>12:18 - Why do we need solar power in space?</p><p>13:53 - Market and applications for space solar</p><p>19:53 - Lasers for power transmission</p><p>23:02 - Efficiency gain / loss with space solar</p><p>26:06 - Real time power delivery</p><p>29:21 - Why not nuclear?</p><p>31:37 - Space-based solar for space</p><p>32:28 - Safety and regulation</p><p>34:37 - Economics of space solar</p><p>38:06 - Constellations at scale</p><p>39:06 - Early revenue model</p><p>40:09 - Competitors</p><p>41:05 - Funding</p><p>44:05 - An Apple moment</p><p>48:19 - Aetherflux team, growth, and goals</p><p>49:26 - Space startups that Baiju is excited about</p><p>51:20 - Who would Baiju choose to play him in a movie?</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Aetherflux’s website — https://www.aetherflux.com/</p><p>Aetherflux’s socials — https://twitter.com/AetherfluxUSA</p><p>Baiju’s socials — https://twitter.com/BaijuBhatt</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays</p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this week’s Pathfinder pod, we bring in Karthik Gollapudi, CEO, and Austin Spiegel, CTO, of Sift, as they dive into the company's mission to build software tools for complex machines, with a focus on telemetry solutions. Sift’s platform enables end-to-end data ingestion, real-time analysis, and visualization, helping companies streamline the testing and operation of intricate hardware systems, such as spacecraft and rockets.</p><p>Karthik and Austin share the story behind Sift’s founding and highlight the key role telemetry plays in improving safety and efficiency for hardware engineers. </p><p>We also cover:</p><ul><li>How SIFT automates data review and reduces testing time</li><li>The challenges of managing large data volumes in aerospace and beyond</li><li>How the company helps engineers identify anomalies and prevent failures</li><li>The importance of real-time insights for complex hardware systems</li><li>Their recent funding round led by Google Ventures</li></ul><p>And much more...</p><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p>00:31 - What is Sift building?</p><p>04:18 - Origins</p><p>07:30 - Austin at Riot Games</p><p>10:52 - Product walkthrough</p><p>13:19 - Why is data ingestion so difficult?</p><p>19:30 - What is a company doing if they're not using Sift?</p><p>22:05 - How do you make sure that there's no data loss?</p><p>24:50 - What does a user experience look like?</p><p>27:44 - What does the demand look like for real-time telemetry?</p><p>28:57 - Competition</p><p>29:43 - Revenue model</p><p>31:56 - How Sift's tools help their customers</p><p>36:46 - What's next for Sift?</p><p>39:04 - What keeps you up at night?</p><p>44:56 - Long-term view</p><p>45:54 - Companies to be excited for</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Sift’s website — siftstack.com/</p><p>Sift’s socials — https://x.com/SiftStack</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes<br /> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays</p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this week’s Pathfinder pod, Chiara Manfletti, CEO of Neuraspace and former President of the Portuguese National Space Agency, discusses the growing importance of space situational awareness (SSA) and space traffic management. Neuraspace is a Portuguese startup that is developing a software platform that provides satellite operators with risk assessments, maneuvering advice, and insights on space debris.</p><p>Chiara explains Neuraspace’s mission to tackle the challenges of space debris and why it's essential to develop better tools for managing space traffic. She also shares the story behind Neurospace’s founding, the company’s growth, and their innovative approach to automating satellite operations.</p><p>We also discuss:</p><ul><li>The threat of space debris and its long-term implications</li><li>How Neuraspace integrates multiple data sources</li><li>The role of space situational awareness in the future of autonomous spacecraft</li><li>Differences in commercial and government customer needs</li><li>The long-term vision for making space a safer, more sustainable place for satellites and other assets</li></ul><p>And much more...<br /> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p>00:58 - What is Neuraspace?</p><p>02:14 - The founding vision</p><p>04:07 - Is space debris an issue?</p><p>08:18 - Unnecessary maneuvers</p><p>09:40 - Neuraspace's ecosystem</p><p>11:17 - Neuraspace's ground-based hardware</p><p>12:36 - Challenges acquiring the right data amidst competition</p><p>14:17 - Value chain of space situational awareness</p><p>15:26 - Benefits of having a company focused on intelligence</p><p>17:40 - How Neuraspace predicts collision events</p><p>20:22 - Challenges integrating different sources of data</p><p>22:00 - Automation and level of control satellite operators</p><p>24:37 - Scaling</p><p>26:39 - Catalysts for satellite threat detection</p><p>28:24 - Primary customers</p><p>28:53 - Expectations of governments vs. commercial clients</p><p>30:05 - State of orbital debris globally and how Chiara thinks it'll change</p><p>31:12 - Competitors today</p><p>32:25 - Revenue model</p><p>33:36 - Work Neuraspace does with regulatory bodies</p><p>34:20 - Funding</p><p>36:07 - Long-term vision for Neuraspace</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Neuraspace’s website — https://www.neuraspace.com/</p><p>Neuraspace’s socials — https://x.com/neuraspace</p><p>Chiara’s socials — https://x.com/chiaramanfletti</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><p><br />• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.<br /> </p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays</p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>The cost to build a mass scale propellant production system on the Moon? Much less than $100M according to Starpath cofounder and CEO Saurav Shroff. The LA-based startup is developing the infrastructure for lunar resource extraction—including a power plant, a fleet of rovers, and a processing plant.</p><p>In this episode, Saurav breaks down Starpath's approach to off-planet fuel production and how it can enable cost-effective and reusable space travel. He also shares his thoughts on the future of lunar and Martian colonization and how propellant production plays a pivotal role in making interplanetary travel economically viable.</p><p>We also discuss:</p><ul><li>The technical hurdles of producing propellant on the Moon and Mars</li><li>The impact of propellant production on reducing the cost of space travel</li><li>The potential customers and business models</li><li>How Starpath’s approach complements the vision of companies like SpaceX and Blue Origin</li><li>The long-term vision for a human presence on the Moon and Mars, and what it will take to get there</li></ul><p>And much more…</p><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p>01:25 - What is Startpath?</p><p>04:11 - How was Starpath founded?</p><p>07:28 - The team</p><p>08:55 - Starpath with and without SpaceX</p><p>13:20 - Mega scale propellant production</p><p>16:30 - What type of propellant is Starpath making?</p><p>20:15 - What is Starpath building?</p><p>24:56 - Why build this power system yourself and why not nuclear?</p><p>28:56 - Plant & Rover</p><p>35:35 - Plan for success</p><p>39:59 - Speculation on SpaceX's propellant production</p><p>43:49 - Who else is a potential customer?</p><p>45:49 - Revenue model</p><p>48:27 - Investors and common misconceptions</p><p>50:26 - Capital needs</p><p>51:43 - Competitors? China?</p><p>54:37 - First fuel production prediction</p><p>56:03 - 10-year vision</p><p>58:16 - Other businesses Saurav is excited about</p><p>1:00:17 - Which celebrity will play Saurav?<br /> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Starpath’s website — <a href="" target="_blank">https://starpath.space/</a></p><p>Starpath’s socials — <a href="" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/StarpathSpace</a></p><p>Sarah’s socials — <a href="" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/SauravShroff5</a></p><p>Mo's socials — <a href="" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</a></p><p>Payload’s socials — <a href="" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/payloadspace</a> / <a href="" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</a></p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: <a href="" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace</a></p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays</p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Sep 2024 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cost to build a mass scale propellant production system on the Moon? Much less than $100M according to Starpath cofounder and CEO Saurav Shroff. The LA-based startup is developing the infrastructure for lunar resource extraction—including a power plant, a fleet of rovers, and a processing plant.</p><p>In this episode, Saurav breaks down Starpath's approach to off-planet fuel production and how it can enable cost-effective and reusable space travel. He also shares his thoughts on the future of lunar and Martian colonization and how propellant production plays a pivotal role in making interplanetary travel economically viable.</p><p>We also discuss:</p><ul><li>The technical hurdles of producing propellant on the Moon and Mars</li><li>The impact of propellant production on reducing the cost of space travel</li><li>The potential customers and business models</li><li>How Starpath’s approach complements the vision of companies like SpaceX and Blue Origin</li><li>The long-term vision for a human presence on the Moon and Mars, and what it will take to get there</li></ul><p>And much more…</p><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p>01:25 - What is Startpath?</p><p>04:11 - How was Starpath founded?</p><p>07:28 - The team</p><p>08:55 - Starpath with and without SpaceX</p><p>13:20 - Mega scale propellant production</p><p>16:30 - What type of propellant is Starpath making?</p><p>20:15 - What is Starpath building?</p><p>24:56 - Why build this power system yourself and why not nuclear?</p><p>28:56 - Plant & Rover</p><p>35:35 - Plan for success</p><p>39:59 - Speculation on SpaceX's propellant production</p><p>43:49 - Who else is a potential customer?</p><p>45:49 - Revenue model</p><p>48:27 - Investors and common misconceptions</p><p>50:26 - Capital needs</p><p>51:43 - Competitors? China?</p><p>54:37 - First fuel production prediction</p><p>56:03 - 10-year vision</p><p>58:16 - Other businesses Saurav is excited about</p><p>1:00:17 - Which celebrity will play Saurav?<br /> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Starpath’s website — <a href="" target="_blank">https://starpath.space/</a></p><p>Starpath’s socials — <a href="" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/StarpathSpace</a></p><p>Sarah’s socials — <a href="" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/SauravShroff5</a></p><p>Mo's socials — <a href="" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</a></p><p>Payload’s socials — <a href="" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/payloadspace</a> / <a href="" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</a></p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: <a href="" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace</a></p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays</p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week on Pathfinder, we sit down with Lindsay Kaldon, NASA’s Fission Surface Power Project Manager, to explore NASA's plans for deploying small nuclear reactors on the Moon and Mars as part of the Artemis missions. Before her current role at NASA, Lindsay spent over a decade in the DoD, where she worked as an Air Force officer specializing in electronic warfare, keeping pilots safe at extreme altitudes. With a background in both electrical and nuclear engineering, Lindsay’s experience spans high-altitude spy planes, drones, and EMP defenses for Navy ships, giving her a unique perspective on technology in extreme environments.</p><p>In this episode, Lindsay walks us through NASA's efforts to deploy small nuclear reactors on the Moon as part of the Artemis missions and beyond. She also explains how her defense background prepared her for managing the technical and regulatory complexities of space nuclear power.</p><p>In addition, we cover:</p><ul><li>The history of nuclear systems in space, from SNAP-10 to today's advancements</li><li>NASA's collaboration with industry partners</li><li>The role of nuclear power in supporting long-term lunar and Martian missions</li><li>The technical challenges of fission in space</li><li>The potential future of nuclear propulsion and energy solutions for space exploration</li></ul><p>And much more…</p><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p>00:28 - Lindsey's role at NASA</p><p>01:07 - Power reactors in space and when the project started</p><p>08:05 - Highly enriched uranium</p><p>10:21 - Importance of NASA's long-term nuclear goals</p><p>13:53 - RPS vs FSP</p><p>16:44 - Lindsey's background</p><p>24:14 - Why not work in a nuclear sub?</p><p>29:54 - How does the team evolve in the next 5 years?</p><p>35:26 - Why should a company bid for phase 1 of NASA's plan to return to the Moon?</p><p>38:01 - Overall architecture of NASA's FSP needs</p><p>40:43 - Supply chain problems</p><p>44:12 - Technical challenges of nuclear in space</p><p>50:16 - Who regulates space nuclear?</p><p>52:11 - DOD & NASA</p><p>57:33 - Milestones to look out for</p><p>01:00:21 - The state of nuclear on Earth</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>NASA FSP website — https://www.nasa.gov/tdm/fission-surface-power/</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays</p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Sep 2024 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>mo@arkaeamedia.com (Arkaea Media (Payload | Ignition | Tectonic))</author>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week on Pathfinder, we welcome back Matt Gialich, cofounder and CEO of AstroForge, to discuss the company’s plans to mine platinum group metals from near-Earth asteroids and its recent <a href="https://payloadspace.com/astroforge-raised-40m-to-race-for-an-asteroid/">Series A funding</a>. </p><p>In this episode, Matt provides updates on AstroForge’s upcoming missions, the challenges of developing a cost-effective method for extracting and refining space resources, and how the company is addressing the technical complexities of deep space exploration. He also delves into the specifics of the $40 million Series A round, which will support AstroForge's next two missions, and how the company is balancing risk with innovation to lower costs.</p><p>In addition, we cover:</p><ul><li>AstroForge’s approach to refining metals in space and their proprietary low-power refinery</li><li>The economics of the asteroid mining market</li><li>Lessons learned from previous mining efforts</li><li>The importance of scalability and mission flexibility</li><li>The regulatory landscape and its evolution as the industry grows</li></ul><p>And much more…</p><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p>00:48 - Matt's background and AstroForge</p><p>01:52 - Platinum group metals and why we need to mine them</p><p>04:14 - Beyond just platinum mining</p><p>08:27 - Bird scooters to JPL</p><p>11:40 - What makes space mining companies fail and who are AstroForge's current competitors?</p><p>15:37 - How large is the PGM market today?</p><p>18:34 - Developments at AstroForge since July 2023</p><p>21:46 - Plan for Mission 2</p><p>23:32 - How do you choose (and image) an asteroid?</p><p>27:19 - What does the architecture of the end system look like</p><p>28:13 - Materials processing</p><p>28:51 - Technical challenges</p><p>31:08 - Cost vs Risk</p><p>36:32 - State of space mining regulation and how it will evolve</p><p>38:25 - How other countries are viewing space mining</p><p>44:18 - Plans with Series A proceeds</p><p>45:03 - Common investor misconceptions</p><p>48:53 - Government contracts</p><p>50:10 - Long- term vision</p><p>51:20 - Are we ready for a killer asteroid?</p><p>53:49 - Who's playing Matt in the movie about AstroForge?<br /> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>AstroForge’s website — https://www.astroforge.com/</p><p>Matt’s socials — https://twitter.com/MattGialich</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays</p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week’s Pathfinder pod features Brian D’Erario, the man who keeps the lights on at Payload as the Director of Client Partnerships. Brian’s role is to bring in all the revenue that makes everything at Payload possible (no pressure, Brian!).  With experience working with over 97 partners, Brian has been instrumental in shaping Payload's approach to brand awareness and lead generation.</p><p>Brian shares his journey from selling B2B hardware and software to government contractors, to his time at Morning Brew, and finally joining Payload to drive partnerships in the space sector. We explore Brian's background, including his work with various industries and his insights into the unique challenges of marketing within the space industry. We also discuss:</p><ul><li>The marketing strategies that space companies often overlook</li><li>The importance of brand awareness even during the R&D phase</li><li>How startups can compete with the primes</li><li>The role of content in engaging B2B audiences</li><li>Effective conference strategies for maximizing impact</li></ul><p>And much more…<br /> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p>01:04 - What does Brian do at Payload?</p><p>01:51 - Brian's background</p><p>04:33 - Morning Brew</p><p>08:09 - Initial assessment of space marketing strategies</p><p>10:39 - Do space companies market themselves well?</p><p>12:27 - Marketing your product before you start selling</p><p>19:46 - Brand awareness vs lead generation</p><p>27:40 - When does it make sense for a startup to spend money on marketing?</p><p>31:44 - How can a startup develop a marketing plan for a product that competes against a prime competitor?</p><p>34:46 - Creating engaging B2B content</p><p>41:31 - Agency vs in-house</p><p>43:39 - Conference strategies</p><p>47:44 - The Marketing Playbook</p><p>52:53 - Brian’s publication</p><p>55:11 - Partnerships consultant</p><p>57:15 - From hockey to pickleball</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Brian’s Marketing Newsletter — https://payloadspace.com/marketing-deep-tech-newsletter/</p><p>Brian’s socials — https://twitter.com/derariob</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays</p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week on Pathfinder, we welcome back Andy Lapsa, cofounder and CEO of Stoke Space. Stoke has made remarkable strides since Andy's last appearance on the show two years ago. They've grown to over 140 employees and developed innovative full-flow staged combustion cycle engines and reusable upper-stage prototypes. Andy shares his insights on the challenges and progress in creating fully reusable launch vehicles, emphasizing the importance of rapid reusability for reducing costs and increasing availability and reliability.</p><p>We dive into Andy's background, including his ten years of experience at Blue Origin and his decision to start Stoke Space to accelerate the pace of innovation. We also discuss:</p><ul><li>The unique technical approach of Stoke and the architecture of their first launch vehicle, Nova</li><li>The strategic decision to focus on second-stage reusability and how it differentiates Stoke from other providers</li><li>Thoughts on the current state of launch and the market potential for multiple providers</li><li>The importance of manufacturing and scalability in achieving high-frequency launches</li><li>Stoke's proprietary software, Fusion, and its role in optimizing operations</li></ul><p>And much more...</p><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p>00:34 - What's changed since our last episode?</p><p>03:04 - Why Andy started Stoke?</p><p>07:09 - Andy's time at Blue Origin</p><p>09:14 - What makes Stoke different from other launch providers?</p><p>12:14 - Focusing on 2nd stage launch first</p><p>14:47 - Payload capacity</p><p>15:53 - Why has it taken so long for SpaceX to work on fully reusable launch capabilities?</p><p>18:36 - Is there a market for multiple launch providers?</p><p>21:32 - Growth in launch demand</p><p>29:04 - Value proposition for working with Stoke</p><p>30:25 - Getting to orbit</p><p>36:24 - Minimum viable success</p><p>37:59 - Product roadmap post-Nova</p><p>40:03 - Investor misconceptions about launch</p><p>42:21 - The factory is the product?</p><p>44:52 - Fusion</p><p>53:29 - What keeps Andy up at night?</p><p>54:47 - Funding</p><p>55:19 - Stoke's big vision</p><p>56:12 - Who plays Andy in the movie about Stoke?<br /> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Stoke’s website — https://www.stokespace.com</p><p>Stoke’s socials — https://twitter.com/stoke_space</p><p>Andy’s socials — https://twitter.com/AndyLapsa</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays</p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week on Pathfinder, we welcome back Andy Lapsa, cofounder and CEO of Stoke Space. Stoke has made remarkable strides since Andy's last appearance on the show two years ago. They've grown to over 140 employees and developed innovative full-flow staged combustion cycle engines and reusable upper-stage prototypes. Andy shares his insights on the challenges and progress in creating fully reusable launch vehicles, emphasizing the importance of rapid reusability for reducing costs and increasing availability and reliability.</p><p>We dive into Andy's background, including his ten years of experience at Blue Origin and his decision to start Stoke Space to accelerate the pace of innovation. We also discuss:</p><ul><li>The unique technical approach of Stoke and the architecture of their first launch vehicle, Nova</li><li>The strategic decision to focus on second-stage reusability and how it differentiates Stoke from other providers</li><li>Thoughts on the current state of launch and the market potential for multiple providers</li><li>The importance of manufacturing and scalability in achieving high-frequency launches</li><li>Stoke's proprietary software, Fusion, and its role in optimizing operations</li></ul><p>And much more...</p><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p>00:34 - What's changed since our last episode?</p><p>03:04 - Why Andy started Stoke?</p><p>07:09 - Andy's time at Blue Origin</p><p>09:14 - What makes Stoke different from other launch providers?</p><p>12:14 - Focusing on 2nd stage launch first</p><p>14:47 - Payload capacity</p><p>15:53 - Why has it taken so long for SpaceX to work on fully reusable launch capabilities?</p><p>18:36 - Is there a market for multiple launch providers?</p><p>21:32 - Growth in launch demand</p><p>29:04 - Value proposition for working with Stoke</p><p>30:25 - Getting to orbit</p><p>36:24 - Minimum viable success</p><p>37:59 - Product roadmap post-Nova</p><p>40:03 - Investor misconceptions about launch</p><p>42:21 - The factory is the product?</p><p>44:52 - Fusion</p><p>53:29 - What keeps Andy up at night?</p><p>54:47 - Funding</p><p>55:19 - Stoke's big vision</p><p>56:12 - Who plays Andy in the movie about Stoke?<br /> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Stoke’s website — https://www.stokespace.com</p><p>Stoke’s socials — https://twitter.com/stoke_space</p><p>Andy’s socials — https://twitter.com/AndyLapsa</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays</p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week's Pathfinder features Colin Doughan, CEO of Gravitics, a Seattle-based startup that specializes in the development of modular space infrastructure to support the expansion of stations and orbital platforms. Their primary product is the StarMax module, which can be customized in various sizes to accommodate different launch vehicles and mission requirements.</p><p>Colin shares his journey into the aerospace industry and his vision for building real estate platforms in space. With a background that includes nearly 20 years at Lockheed Martin and founding Altius Space Machines (acquired by Voyager), Colin brings a considerable amount of experience in infrastructure development.</p><p>We explore:</p><ul><li>The approach Gravitics takes in developing scalable station modules</li><li>The market potential for free-flying stations and the impact of new launch vehicle capabilities</li><li>Operator vs builder model in space stations</li><li>Challenges in scaling manufacturing and testing for space environments</li><li>The future of artificial gravity and its importance for long-term space habitation</li></ul><p>And much more...</p><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro & Epsilon ad</p><p>02:04 - Colin's background</p><p>03:23 - Colin's first business venture</p><p>04:02 - Why start a space station business?</p><p>05:25 - Evolution of the Gravitics's vision</p><p>06:57 - Zero G modules</p><p>07:36 - Business model</p><p>08:26 - Why not operate modules?</p><p>10:04 - How do you perceive the market opportunity for free-flying space stations?</p><p>18:19 - Design decisions</p><p>22:25 - Turning a competitor into a customer</p><p>25:02 - Gravitics's approach vs existing providers</p><p>26:14 - Is there enough capital and investors to sustain this market?</p><p>30:26 - Countries creating their own launch capabilities</p><p>33:24 - StarMax</p><p>35:44 - Insourcing vs outsourcing</p><p>36:52 - Scaling manufacturing</p><p>40:05 - Testing</p><p>42:50 - Technical challengers that keep Colin up at night</p><p>44:42 - Commercial and government traction</p><p>48:34 - Long-term view</p><p>50:09 - ETA for Elysium?</p><p>50:35 - Who's going to play Colin in the future movie about Gravitics?</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Gravitic’s website — https://www.gravitics.com/</p><p>Gravitic’s socials — https://twitter.com/graviticsinc</p><p>Colin’s socials — https://twitter.com/colindoughan</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes<br /> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays</p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 6 Aug 2024 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week's Pathfinder features Colin Doughan, CEO of Gravitics, a Seattle-based startup that specializes in the development of modular space infrastructure to support the expansion of stations and orbital platforms. Their primary product is the StarMax module, which can be customized in various sizes to accommodate different launch vehicles and mission requirements.</p><p>Colin shares his journey into the aerospace industry and his vision for building real estate platforms in space. With a background that includes nearly 20 years at Lockheed Martin and founding Altius Space Machines (acquired by Voyager), Colin brings a considerable amount of experience in infrastructure development.</p><p>We explore:</p><ul><li>The approach Gravitics takes in developing scalable station modules</li><li>The market potential for free-flying stations and the impact of new launch vehicle capabilities</li><li>Operator vs builder model in space stations</li><li>Challenges in scaling manufacturing and testing for space environments</li><li>The future of artificial gravity and its importance for long-term space habitation</li></ul><p>And much more...</p><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro & Epsilon ad</p><p>02:04 - Colin's background</p><p>03:23 - Colin's first business venture</p><p>04:02 - Why start a space station business?</p><p>05:25 - Evolution of the Gravitics's vision</p><p>06:57 - Zero G modules</p><p>07:36 - Business model</p><p>08:26 - Why not operate modules?</p><p>10:04 - How do you perceive the market opportunity for free-flying space stations?</p><p>18:19 - Design decisions</p><p>22:25 - Turning a competitor into a customer</p><p>25:02 - Gravitics's approach vs existing providers</p><p>26:14 - Is there enough capital and investors to sustain this market?</p><p>30:26 - Countries creating their own launch capabilities</p><p>33:24 - StarMax</p><p>35:44 - Insourcing vs outsourcing</p><p>36:52 - Scaling manufacturing</p><p>40:05 - Testing</p><p>42:50 - Technical challengers that keep Colin up at night</p><p>44:42 - Commercial and government traction</p><p>48:34 - Long-term view</p><p>50:09 - ETA for Elysium?</p><p>50:35 - Who's going to play Colin in the future movie about Gravitics?</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Gravitic’s website — https://www.gravitics.com/</p><p>Gravitic’s socials — https://twitter.com/graviticsinc</p><p>Colin’s socials — https://twitter.com/colindoughan</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes<br /> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays</p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week's Pathfinder guest is Tina Ghataore, Chief Strategy and Revenue Officer at Aerospacelab as well as CEO of Aerospacelab N.A. With a background in aerospace engineering and extensive experience in business development and strategy, Tina has been instrumental in taking products and services to market in both large and small companies.</p><p>Aerospacelab is a Belgium-based company specializing in satellite platforms and components. Our conversation with Tina covers the fascinating world of satellite technology and Aerospacelab's role in it. We explore</p><ul><li>The vision of founder, Benoît Deper, and the company's growth over the past six years</li><li>Approach to building and launching satellites</li><li>The significance of vertical integration</li><li>Challenges and opportunities in the commercial and government satellite markets</li><li>The role of Aerospacelab North America in expanding capabilities</li></ul><p>And much more...<br /> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p>01:04 - About Tina and her path to Aerospacelab</p><p>04:44 - Why Aerospacelab?</p><p>06:24 - Aerospacelab's history and Tina's division</p><p>09:38 - Why does Aerospacelab need a division focused on North American clients?</p><p>12:20 - Market opportunity and distinguishing from their competitors</p><p>17:29 - Gauging SpaceX's long-term bus desires</p><p>19:44 - Current and future product roadmap</p><p>23:53 - How is Aerospacelab currently building satellites</p><p>27:43 - Aerospacelab's max satellite capacity</p><p>31:49 - Customer base</p><p>36:41 - How is Aerospacelab funded?</p><p>39:15 - 10 year vision</p><p>42:06 - Space in the Middle East</p><p>50:32 - Startups that Tina is excited about</p><p>53:54 - What does Tina do for fun?</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Aerospacelab’s website — https://www.aerospacelab.com/</p><p>Aerospacelab’s socials — <a href="https://twitter.com/aerospacelab_">https://twitter.com/aerospacelab_</a></p><p>Tina’s socials — https://twitter.com/Tina_Ghataore</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays</p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 30 Jul 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week on Pathfinder, we feature Kate Kelly, Director of Space and Emerging Programs at BWXT, an 8,000-person firm that specializes in delivering nuclear reactors and components for the Navy, commercial nuclear industry, and advanced technologies. </p><p>Kate shares her journey into the nuclear and space industry, providing insights into the advancements and challenges faced by BWXT. With a background in chemical engineering, Kate has been with BWXT for over a decade, contributing to significant projects like small modular reactors and space nuclear propulsion systems.</p><p>Our conversation with Kate covers the world of space nuclear technology and BWXT's role in it. We also discuss:</p><ul><li>Kate's unconventional path into the nuclear industry and BWXT</li><li>The significance of the DARPA Draco Phase 2 Award and its impact on space nuclear propulsion</li><li>The role of nuclear thermal propulsion in future exploration</li><li>Challenges and milestones in developing nuclear technology for space</li><li>Regulatory processes and safety considerations for nuclear systems</li></ul><p>And much more...<br /> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p>01:25 - How Kate ended up at BWXT and pursuing nuclear</p><p>03:47 - Quick rundown on BWXT</p><p>04:34 - What has made Kate stay at BWXT for her whole career?</p><p>06:50 - Director of space and emerging programs</p><p>08:02 - For All Mankind and how nuclear propulsion works</p><p>11:29 - First spacecraft to use nuclear propulsion</p><p>12:51 - Milestones</p><p>14:33 - What does nuclear propulsion solve?</p><p>16:25 - What kind of work is BWXT doing on the power side when it comes to space?</p><p>19:46 - Possible scenarios for nuclear power solutions on Earth</p><p>21:38 - Long-term value behind BWXT's tech</p><p>23:19 - The size of Kate's division</p><p>24:45 - How does regulation work for nuclear technologies in space?</p><p>27:40 - State of nuclear today and how long until it becomes commercialized</p><p>30:38 - BWXT post successful demonstration prediction</p><p>32:03 - Safety and combatting public perception on nuclear</p><p>34:54 - How BWXT tests their propulsion systems</p><p>37:24 - Competitors</p><p>38:57 - How does BWXT compete against faster and more agile startups?</p><p>41:34 - Nuclear for space in 10 years</p><p>43:16 - What Kate does with her free time<br /> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>BWXT’s website — https://www.bwxt.com/what-we-do/advanced-technologies/</p><p>BWXT’s socials — https://twitter.com/BWXT</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays</p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2024 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Fresh off of a $95M Series B funding round, this week we bring back Ian Cinnamon, CEO of Apex, on to the show. Ian, along with his co-founder Max Benassi, started Apex to address the bottleneck in satellite bus manufacturing. Apex is revolutionizing the small satellite bus market with its productized approach and rapid manufacturing capabilities. </p><p>Our conversation explores Ian’s journey from concept to scaling production, including:</p><ul><li>The Series B funding round and its implications</li><li>Apex's mission to become the leading supplier of satellite buses</li><li>Challenges and strategies in scaling production</li><li>Importance of maintaining a product-focused model</li><li>Insights into the evolving satellite bus market</li><li>The future vision for Apex</li></ul><p>And much more...<br /> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro & 100th episode!</p><p>02:42 - Apex origin story</p><p>03:59 - Changes between funding rounds</p><p>05:12 - Key factors in raising $95m</p><p>06:40 - Financing needs of Apex</p><p>07:35 - Current fundraising environment</p><p>09:07 - Market opportunity of satellite buses</p><p>10:55 - Is there serious demand for buses if you take out Starlink?</p><p>16:05 - Winning niche for contracts</p><p>17:53 - How Apex separates itself from competitors</p><p>19:27 - SpaceX's bus building capabilities</p><p>21:04 - Plans beyond LEO</p><p>22:06 - Apex naming scheme</p><p>23:49 - Mission 1</p><p>28:23 - First expectations for Mission 1</p><p>30:10 - Mission 1 timeline</p><p>32:24 - Combatting the unreliability of the current state of launch</p><p>37:03 - Balancing Apex's needs and the government's</p><p>40:42 - Impending government contract win?</p><p>41:53 - Why Apex built an e-commerce workflow</p><p>44:22 - Scaling</p><p>48:09 - Team size and expansion goals at Apex</p><p>49:34 - What kind of capital would Apex need to be self-sustainable</p><p>51:56 - Advice for prospective founders</p><p>53:15 - Long-term vision, 10 years out</p><p>55:53 - Who is playing Ian in the movie about Apex?</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Apex’s website — <a href="https://eurospace.org/">https://www.apexspace.com/</a></p><p>Apex’s socials — https://twitter.com/ApexSpacecraft</p><p>Ian’s socials — https://twitter.com/IanCinnamon</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays</p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Jul 2024 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Ever wanted to hear the firsthand experience of a New Shepard astronaut? Well, today we're joined by Mason Angel, General Partner at Industrious Ventures, who was on Blue Origin’s most recent flight to space. Mason, with a background deeply rooted in industrial sectors like GE and Linde through his family, shares his unique journey and insights into investing in legacy industries, focusing on aerospace and defense.</p><p>Industrious Ventures, founded over four years ago, aims to revitalize these often-overlooked sectors by leveraging innovative technologies and substantial expertise. Our conversation delves into Mason's strategic vision and track record. We also explore:</p><ul><li>The impact of a spaceflight experience and a renewed perspective on space tourism and the commercial space industry</li><li>Key investment areas within legacy industries</li><li>Future missions and the commercial potential of space</li></ul><p>And much more…</p><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:38 - Mason and Industrious Ventures</p><p>01:37 - Family expertise</p><p>02:33 - What is a legacy industry?</p><p>04:11 - Being a crew member of Blue Origin's Shepard</p><p>06:35 - Experience vs expectation of going into space</p><p>07:45 - What's the moment where you are not allowed to get off anymore?</p><p>09:04 - Training</p><p>11:28 - Weightlessness</p><p>13:37 - How does Industrious differ from other firms?</p><p>15:43 - State of space investment</p><p>18:45 - Why is there room for multiple launch companies?</p><p>19:54 - Investing in Stoke & Ursa Major</p><p>21:53 - Starship's economic impact</p><p>23:14 - Why is interest in the Moon increasing and is Mason thinking about investing in those companies?</p><p>24:57 - AstroForge</p><p>26:15 - Resources beyond He3</p><p>27:16 - Space stations today</p><p>31:40 - How has going to space affected Mason's perspective on the business of space?</p><p>33:00 - Investing beyond space</p><p>35:30 - Areas of the market that are underhyped</p><p>36:43 - Technologies that don't exist today that will in 10 years</p><p>38:24 - Prediction: Starship's first commercial launch</p><p>40:35 - What are LPs looking for from GPs today?</p><p>42:37 - If Mason wasn't doing space, what else would he be doing</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Industrious Ventures website — https://www.industrious.vc/</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes<br /> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays</p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week on Pathfinder, we're joined by Ray Allensworth, Spacecraft Program Director at Firefly Aerospace. Ray, who has a previous background with major aerospace names like Raytheon and Northrop, helps lead Blue Ghost, Firefly’s lunar lander program designed to deliver scientific and commercial payloads to the surface of the Moon. The company is currently on track to be the next commercial lunar lander on the Moon with its planned launch in November aiming for the elusive 100% flawless mission which has not yet been achieved by any commercial entity.</p><p>Our conversation delves into the comprehensive capabilities of Firefly as an end-to-end space transportation company, the intricacies of the Blue Ghost program, and the significance of lunar exploration. We also explore:</p><ul><li>The origins and objectives of Blue Ghost</li><li>Technical milestones and challenges</li><li>The economic and strategic importance of lunar landers</li><li>The role of Firefly in the broader context of NASA's Artemis program</li><li>Future missions and the commercial opportunity on the moon</li></ul><p>And much more…</p><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 Intro</p><p>00:37 Firefly overview</p><p>01:27 Blue Ghost</p><p>03:02 How Ray got to Firefly and her background</p><p>04:22 Building a space company in Texas</p><p>05:18 What is the importance of returning to the moon?</p><p>07:01 National security interest in the Moon</p><p>08:20 Viability of developing products for the Moon</p><p>09:50 Current moon landing customers and where Ray sees growth</p><p>11:04 Commercial Lunar Payload Services (CLPS) Program</p><p>12:26 Most promising commercial opportunity on the Moon</p><p>14:43 Why is it still so hard to land on the Moon?</p><p>16:58 How is the Blue Ghost Architecture different from other lunar landers?</p><p>19:54 Technical milestones, team, and launch for Blue Ghost</p><p>21:01 Most important challenges to overcome for Mission 1</p><p>23:04 Powering beyond solar</p><p>23:54 Testing for the lunar environment</p><p>28:29 What risks keep Ray up at night?</p><p>29:52 Customer goals for Mission 1</p><p>31:20 The international market</p><p>35:44 Commercial landing on the dark side of the Moon</p><p>36:53 What's next after CLPS?</p><p>37:47 Blue Ghost profitability</p><p>39:58 Firefly's role in Artemis program</p><p>41:37 Is sample return in the future plan?</p><p>42:03 Press bomb prep</p><p>43:17 Is the Moon your calling?</p><p>44:54 What would you send to the Moon?</p><p>46:22 Ray's favorite place to eat in Texas</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Firefly’s Blue Ghost website — https://fireflyspace.com/blue-ghost/</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays</p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2024 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week on Pathfinder, we're joined by Jed McCaleb, Founder, and Max Haot, CEO, the leaders behind Vast, a company pioneering the development of commercial space stations. Jed, a seasoned software entrepreneur, and Max, a veteran in space and internet ventures, bring their unique expertise to the ambitious goal of advancing human habitation in space.</p><p>Our conversation covers the critical aspects of creating economically viable space stations, the strategic role of life support systems, and the significance of reducing transportation costs. We also explore:</p><ul><li>Space station economics, pros/cons of competition</li><li>Military opportunities and sensitivities in space station use</li><li>Integration of Launcher post-acquisition</li><li>Challenges and excitement of Haven One's launch</li><li>Vast’s product roadmap</li></ul><p><br />And much more…</p><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 Intro</p><p>00:53 Jed's career path and creating Vast</p><p>02:57 Balancing aspirations and making money</p><p>04:57 Max's history building business and how he came to Vast</p><p>08:49 Max's primary objective at Vast</p><p>11:22 Jed's experience building a hardware company</p><p>12:31 Market opportunity for a free flying space station</p><p>15:20 Haven 1</p><p>19:17 Building components in house</p><p>21:07 Materials use and construction safety</p><p>23:03 Vast's approach vs competitors</p><p>29:45 Importance of being first in the market</p><p>31:41 Is the market large enough to sustain multiple station providers?</p><p>33:25 Common misconceptions of space station investment</p><p>38:02 Vast x SpaceX partnership</p><p>40:55 Product roadmap</p><p>43:22 Coinciding with Starship timelines</p><p>45:06 Will Starship be converted into a space station?</p><p>46:10 Fundraising</p><p>47:09 Economics around Haven 1</p><p>51:37 Military applications</p><p>53:30 Utilization after acquisition</p><p>54:13 What excites you and keeps you up at night?</p><p><br />• Show notes •</p><p>Max’s socials — https://twitter.com/maxhaot</p><p>Jed’s socials — https://twitter.com/JedMcCaleb</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Vast’s website — https://www.vastspace.com/</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays</p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 4 Jun 2024 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>mo@arkaeamedia.com (Arkaea Media (Payload | Ignition | Tectonic))</author>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week on Pathfinder, we're joined by Sid Dixit, former CTO of Maxar and a seasoned leader in the space industry. Sid's career spans pivotal roles at Planet, Amazon, and Maxar, where he has been at the forefront of satellite technology, artificial intelligence, and geospatial data platforms.</p><p><br />Our discussion delves into the transformative impact of generative AI and large language models on satellite imagery analysis, the evolving landscape of commercial and government demand for Earth observation data, and the potential commoditization of satellite imagery. We also explore:</p><p><br />– The role of SpaceX and its impact on the LEO market<br />– Challenges and opportunities for Earth observation startups<br />– The future of satellite imagery quality and its market needs<br />– Investment strategies within the industry<br />– Promising Earth observation startups<br />This episode is brought to you by Epsilon3, a cloud-based platform that supports a wide range of operational procedures requiring extreme efficiency and control. Innovative teams at NASA, Blue Origin, Redwire, and Firefly Aerospace use it to plan, execute, and automate their most complex workflows. • Chapters • • Show notes • Mo's socials — <a href="https://twitter.com/itsmoislam" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</a> Payload’s socials — <a href="https://twitter.com/payloadspace" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/payloadspace</a> / <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</a> Pathfinder archive — Watch: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace</a> Pathfinder archive — Listen: <a href="https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes" target="_blank">https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</a> • About us • Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world. Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms: 1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern 2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (<a href="http://pod.payloadspace.com/" target="_blank">pod.payloadspace.com</a>) 3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays 4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece, comes out on Wednesdays You can sign up for all of our publications here: <a href="https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/" target="_blank">https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</a></p><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 Intro & Epsilon Ad</p><p>01:24 Sid's journey from Planet, Amazon, and Maxar</p><p>04:57 Sid's robotics work at Amazon</p><p>07:24 How Sid got back into Earth observation</p><p>08:21 Maxar's acquisition</p><p>11:11 Advent and BCI's end goal</p><p>13:20 State of Earth observation</p><p>18:50 SpaceX's potential impact on LEO</p><p>23:04 If SpaceX goes after remote sensing, what will happen to all the companies operating in LEO?</p><p>25:37 Commercial demand</p><p>28:31 Do you see imaging tech as improving marginally or step-wise?</p><p>34:14 Will AI help open up the commercial market?</p><p>41:05 Who's the winner when it comes to the use of models in EO?</p><p>45:07 Will satellite imagery become commoditized?</p><p>46:48 At what point will imaging quality improvements be enough?</p><p>49:03 If you were managing $1m, how much of it would go to EO?</p><p>51:20 EO startups to look out for</p><p>52:54 Overview</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Right on the heels of their $90M funding round, this week’s Pathfinder spotlights Varda and its cofounders, Will Bruey (CEO) and Delian Asparouhov (President). The LA-based startup harnesses microgravity for pharmaceutical development and manufacturing. In its latest mission, the company successfully processed ritonavir, a crucial antiviral drug utilized in HIV/AIDS treatment.</p><p>In addition to Varda’s origin story and the Series B fundraise, Mo, Will, and Delian discuss:</p><ul><li>Varda’s commercialization strategy</li><li>The business case for in-space manufacturing</li><li>The significance of the W-1 mission</li><li>Adapting to the regulatory environment</li><li>Microgravity formulation optimization</li></ul><p>And much more…</p><p>This episode is brought to you by the Italian Trade Agency (ITA).</p><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 Intro & ITA Ad</p><p>01:21 Varda’s origin</p><p>05:40 What are you building?</p><p>08:17 What does space have to offer for manufacturing?</p><p>12:00 The business case for space manufacturing</p><p>18:02 What drugs have been improved in space?</p><p>19:13 What happened to ZBLAN?</p><p>20:54 R&D for manufacturing in space</p><p>22:34 The W-1 mission</p><p>29:05 Customer traction</p><p>30:38 Where does Varda's business risk lie?</p><p>38:22 Competitive landscape</p><p>39:49 Potential partnerships</p><p>42:48 Regulatory learnings</p><p>45:30 The Series B</p><p>46:57 Use cases beyond pharma</p><p>48:19 Space stations</p><p>55:35 Other companies Will is excited about</p><p>57:22 Where would Delian invest his last space investment?<br /> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Varda’s website — https://www.varda.com/</p><p>The Return of Ritonavir Paper: https://www.varda.com/papers/1711063046-return-of-the-ritonavir-a-study-on-the-stability-of-pharmaceuticals-processed-in-orbit-and-returned-to-earth.pdf</p><p>Will’s socials — https://twitter.com/WillBruey</p><p>Delian’s socials — https://twitter.com/zebulgar</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace </p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes<br /> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays</p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Dan Wright is no typical founder. With a formidable background at software powerhouses like AppDynamics and DataRobot, Dan has shifted his focus towards bridging the technological gap in edge computing with his latest venture, Armada. As the world’s first full-stack edge computing platform, Armada integrates computing and AI capabilities directly where data is generated.</p><p>Dan started Armada after recognizing a significant shift in data generation to the edge and the inadequate response of centralized clouds to the demands of heavy data producers in sectors like oil and gas and manufacturing.</p><p>In today’s episode, Dan discusses the origin story of Armada and its strategic partnership with Starlink, which allows it to extend its edge computing capabilities to remote locations. We also discuss:</p><ul><li>The impact of edge computing</li><li>Armada’s product suite and roadmap</li><li>Bridging the digital divide</li><li>Building a business with SpaceX</li></ul><p>And much more…</p><p>This episode is brought to you by the Italian Trade Agency (ITA).</p><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 Intro & ITA Ad</p><p>01:11 What is Armada and why did you start the company?</p><p>02:33 Adding hardware capabilities</p><p>04:34 What is edge computing?</p><p>07:00 75% of all data will be generated at the edge</p><p>10:12 Serving remote corners of the world</p><p>11:22 What kind of efficiency will edge computing be able to make?</p><p>14:06 Armada x Starlink</p><p>16:59 How did Armada build their relationship with Starlink?</p><p>18:51 How did you convince SpaceX to work with you?</p><p>20:30 Without Starlink, can Armada still be successful?</p><p>22:11 Armada’s product suite</p><p>25:41 Creating demand for 3rd parties in the marketplace</p><p>28:11 The Galleon</p><p>30:44 Customer traction, targeting, and product in the field</p><p>32:58 Armada's smallest but still relevant customer</p><p>34:18 The competitive landscape</p><p>36:13 Extreme testing for Galleon</p><p>38:45 Capital raising</p><p>41:38 What keeps Dan up at night</p><p>43:17 Galleons but in space?</p><p>44:47 10 year vision</p><p>46:04 Dan's opinion on Starship's next flight test</p><p>50:40 What does Dan do for fun?<br /> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Armada’s website — www.armada.ai</p><p>Dan’s socials — https://twitter.com/danwrightSF</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays<br /> </p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week, we bring you our second installment of Pathfinder’s special podcast series on the State of the Space Industry. As a reminder, you’ll hear from two members of Payload’s editorial staff on key trends, exclusive interviews, and insights shaping the industry.</p><p>Today’s episode explores EO & SatCom, featuring Payload’s Research Director, Jack Kuhr, and Lead Reporter, Rachael Zisk. Highlights from the discussion include:</p><p><strong>EO</strong></p><ul><li>EO market dynamics in 2023</li><li>Public EO companies’ trajectory</li><li>VC inclinations and startup viability in EO</li><li>Speculating on SpaceX's emerging EO ambitions</li><li>The realities of commercial demand</li></ul><p><strong>SatCom</strong></p><ul><li>The SatCom market in 2023</li><li>The impact of the Ukraine war</li><li>Exploration of direct to cell innovations</li><li>SpaceX’s strategic moves</li><li>Investor sentiment and edge computing in SatCom</li></ul><p>This episode is brought to you by the Italian Trade Agency (ITA). Be sure to check out the Italian Pavilion  in South Hall (Booth 603) during Space Symposium!<br /> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 Intro & ITA Ad</p><p>01:22 Jack's background</p><p>02:21 Earth Observation market in 2023</p><p>04:41 State of the public EO</p><p>06:23 Major fundraisers in 2023</p><p>07:51 EO startups securing venture capital</p><p>14:20 Spire and BlackSky</p><p>16:19 SpaceX and EO</p><p>18:59 Consolidation in the EO market</p><p>22:37 Rachel’s background</p><p>23:30 Satcom in 2023</p><p>24:51 Ukraine & SatCom</p><p>26:45 Direct to cell technology</p><p>28:51 Starlink’s impact</p><p>33:22 Edge computing</p><p>35:30 Investing in SatCom</p><p>39:47 FCC and regulations</p><p>42:17 Predictions for SatCom in 2024</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Jack’s socials — https://twitter.com/JackKuhr</p><p>Rachael’s socials — https://twitter.com/RachaelZisk</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays</p><p>4) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays</p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 2 Apr 2024 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2024 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Did you ever think that solar power generation in space could be 10x cheaper, 20% more efficient, and extend operational life to over 50 years? Well, that’s what the Arizona-based startup Solestial believes it can achieve with its silicon cell technology. We bring in CEO and cofounder Stan Herasimenka for his first-ever podcast to discuss the unique challenges and differences between terrestrial and space solar cells, and the technological advancements his company is making to produce radiation-hardened, thin, and flexible solar cells for space use.</p><p>Stan and Mo also cover:</p><ul><li>Market potential for solar technology</li><li>Reengineering long-established technology</li><li>Solestial’s business model and scaling plans</li><li>Future trends in space solar</li></ul><p>And much more…</p><p><br />• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p>00:36 - What are you building?</p><p>00:59 - What prompted Stan to start Solestial?</p><p>01:57 - Terrestrial vs extraterrestrial solar cells</p><p>05:10 - How long would a terrestrial solar cell last in space?</p><p>08:27 - Who are the main players?</p><p>11:02 - What is III-V?</p><p>12:25 - Supply/demand gap</p><p>16:03 - Core product offering</p><p>18:26 - What is the reason not to have a turnkey solution?</p><p>19:53 - Cost of activeness vs COTS</p><p>23:40 - Target cost of cells</p><p>24:30 - Why would a customer pay more for a premium solar cell?</p><p>27:37 - Self-curing radiation damage</p><p>30:52 - Perovskite cells</p><p>33:20 - Manufacturing and scaling</p><p>36:18 - Where is Solestial based?</p><p>37:01 - Customer traction</p><p>38:39 - Team makeup</p><p>40:18 - Financing plans?</p><p>41:51 - When will Solestial have their first array in space?</p><p>43:13 - What does Stan do when he's not talking about solar cells?</p><p>44:09 - Other companies Stan is excited about</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Solestial’s website — https://solestial.com/</p><p>Stan’s socials — https://www.linkedin.com/in/stan-herasimenka-5932561b/</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday</p><p>4) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays </p><p>5) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays</p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 5 Mar 2024 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you ever think that solar power generation in space could be 10x cheaper, 20% more efficient, and extend operational life to over 50 years? Well, that’s what the Arizona-based startup Solestial believes it can achieve with its silicon cell technology. We bring in CEO and cofounder Stan Herasimenka for his first-ever podcast to discuss the unique challenges and differences between terrestrial and space solar cells, and the technological advancements his company is making to produce radiation-hardened, thin, and flexible solar cells for space use.</p><p>Stan and Mo also cover:</p><ul><li>Market potential for solar technology</li><li>Reengineering long-established technology</li><li>Solestial’s business model and scaling plans</li><li>Future trends in space solar</li></ul><p>And much more…</p><p><br />• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p>00:36 - What are you building?</p><p>00:59 - What prompted Stan to start Solestial?</p><p>01:57 - Terrestrial vs extraterrestrial solar cells</p><p>05:10 - How long would a terrestrial solar cell last in space?</p><p>08:27 - Who are the main players?</p><p>11:02 - What is III-V?</p><p>12:25 - Supply/demand gap</p><p>16:03 - Core product offering</p><p>18:26 - What is the reason not to have a turnkey solution?</p><p>19:53 - Cost of activeness vs COTS</p><p>23:40 - Target cost of cells</p><p>24:30 - Why would a customer pay more for a premium solar cell?</p><p>27:37 - Self-curing radiation damage</p><p>30:52 - Perovskite cells</p><p>33:20 - Manufacturing and scaling</p><p>36:18 - Where is Solestial based?</p><p>37:01 - Customer traction</p><p>38:39 - Team makeup</p><p>40:18 - Financing plans?</p><p>41:51 - When will Solestial have their first array in space?</p><p>43:13 - What does Stan do when he's not talking about solar cells?</p><p>44:09 - Other companies Stan is excited about</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Solestial’s website — https://solestial.com/</p><p>Stan’s socials — https://www.linkedin.com/in/stan-herasimenka-5932561b/</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 19,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing five media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday</p><p>4) Polaris, our weekly policy briefing, publishes weekly on Tuesdays </p><p>5) Payload Research, our weekly research and analysis piece,  comes out on Wednesdays</p><p>You can sign up for all of our publications here: https://payloadspace.com/subscribe/</p>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2024 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>mo@arkaeamedia.com (Arkaea Media (Payload | Ignition | Tectonic))</author>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>San Francisco-based venture capital firm, Bessemer Venture Partners, is diving into defense technology, with Payload securing the first interview to discuss the firm's new strategy with Partner Tess Hatch. Despite the firm's historical successes with space companies such as Terra Bella (formerly Skybox), Spire, and Rocket Lab, they are cautiously awaiting a new technological catalyst before making further industry investments.</p><p>Meanwhile, Tess has turned her attention to the defense sector highlighted in the firm’s recent Bessemer's defense tech roadmap. She highlights AI/ML solutions and autonomous systems as critical investment areas, aiming to influence the future of national security significantly.</p><p>Tess joins us to recount her transition from an aspiring astronaut to a deep tech investor. In addition, Mo and Tess discuss:</p><ul><li>Bessemer’s early space thesis</li><li>A breakdown of defense tech</li><li>The concept of “dual use”</li><li>Tech shaping the future of national security</li><li>Challenges to defense investing</li></ul><p>And much, much more…</p><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p>02:15 - Tess's career arc</p><p>04:06 - Tess’s transition from engineer to investor</p><p>06:27 - High capex in deep tech investing</p><p>09:04 - BVP’s investment strategy</p><p>15:59 - Space industry today and future predictions</p><p>18:37 - New investors in the space industry</p><p>21:07 - A third catalyst?</p><p>23:41 - Bessemer's defense tech roadmap</p><p>26:28 - How does Bessemer differentiate itself</p><p>28:11 - How do you define defense tech?</p><p>30:43 - Concept of dual use</p><p>32:21 - Reality of dual use</p><p>35:12 - Challenges of defense tech investing</p><p>38:41 - Future opportunity in national security</p><p>40:53 - Liquidity in defense tech</p><p>42:48 - Who should partner with Bessemer?</p><p>45:08 - Favorite war movie/book</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>BVP’s Defense Tech Roadmap — https://www.bvp.com/atlas/roadmap-defense-tech</p><p>BVP’s socials — https://twitter.com/BessemerVP</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 15,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing three media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern (https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/)</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday (https://parallax.payloadspace.com/)</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2024 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Our guest this week not only has a PhD in theoretical astrophysics but is also a pilot, musician, entrepreneur, language enthusiast, and a thought leader on how humanity can create a better future for itself.  No, we’re not constructing a dating profile, but describing Casey Handmer, the founder of Terraform Industries, a startup focused on scaling technologies to produce cheap natural gas with sunlight and air. </p><p>Today, Casey joins us not to talk shop about his company's innovations but to share his vast knowledge on a subject he's deeply passionate about—Starship, Starlink, and the future of space exploration. Casey has been a prolific writer on these topics, sharing his insights and analyses on his <a href="https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/">blog</a> since first discussing Starship in 2019. He has a very clear message: the industry significantly underestimates what Starship is capable of and the impact it will have on society at large.</p><p>Additionally, Mo and Casey chat:</p><ul><li>The Artemis program and NASA’s future</li><li>The role of Starlink in society</li><li>Mars exploration and humanity’s future</li><li>Energy production beyond fossil fuels</li><li>The future of science fiction</li></ul><p>And much, much more…this is one of the most special discussions we've had, so don't miss it.</p><p>This episode is brought to you by Epsilon3, software for complex engineering, testing, and operational procedures. Learn more at https://www.epsilon3.io/</p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro & Epsilon3 Ad</p><p>02:45 - Career arc and Terraform Industries</p><p>06:33 - Humanity will move beyond fossil fuels by 2040</p><p>09:33 - Everyone must read Casey’s blog</p><p>10:13 - Is Starship still misunderstood?</p><p>16:12 - In what ways does Starship challenge traditional design philosophies</p><p>19:33 - Launch capacity</p><p>22:25 - $10m launch costs</p><p>25:14 - Epsilon3 Ad Break</p><p>25:43 - HLS & why Artemis hasn't been redesigned</p><p>28:24 - Thoughts on Blue Moon</p><p>29:43 - Why does a non-Starship Artemis program not move the needle?</p><p>34:18 - Mars & NASA</p><p>36:47 - Is Mars a business?</p><p>37:55 - Startups building in this new regime</p><p>41:09 - Starship IFTs</p><p>42:36 - When will we see the first payload deploying Starship launch?</p><p>43:18 - Does the Starlink model work without Starship?</p><p>44:28 - Is the Falcon enough to replenish Starlink satellites?</p><p>45:24 - Will there be political support for a future with Starship?</p><p>52:05 - How will Starship affect the science fiction genre?</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Casey’s blog — https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/</p><p>Terraform’s website — https://terraformindustries.com/</p><p>Casey’s socials — https://twitter.com/CJHandmer</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 15,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing three media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern (https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/)</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday (https://parallax.payloadspace.com/)</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 6 Feb 2024 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our guest this week not only has a PhD in theoretical astrophysics but is also a pilot, musician, entrepreneur, language enthusiast, and a thought leader on how humanity can create a better future for itself.  No, we’re not constructing a dating profile, but describing Casey Handmer, the founder of Terraform Industries, a startup focused on scaling technologies to produce cheap natural gas with sunlight and air. </p><p>Today, Casey joins us not to talk shop about his company's innovations but to share his vast knowledge on a subject he's deeply passionate about—Starship, Starlink, and the future of space exploration. Casey has been a prolific writer on these topics, sharing his insights and analyses on his <a href="https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/">blog</a> since first discussing Starship in 2019. He has a very clear message: the industry significantly underestimates what Starship is capable of and the impact it will have on society at large.</p><p>Additionally, Mo and Casey chat:</p><ul><li>The Artemis program and NASA’s future</li><li>The role of Starlink in society</li><li>Mars exploration and humanity’s future</li><li>Energy production beyond fossil fuels</li><li>The future of science fiction</li></ul><p>And much, much more…this is one of the most special discussions we've had, so don't miss it.</p><p>This episode is brought to you by Epsilon3, software for complex engineering, testing, and operational procedures. Learn more at https://www.epsilon3.io/</p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro & Epsilon3 Ad</p><p>02:45 - Career arc and Terraform Industries</p><p>06:33 - Humanity will move beyond fossil fuels by 2040</p><p>09:33 - Everyone must read Casey’s blog</p><p>10:13 - Is Starship still misunderstood?</p><p>16:12 - In what ways does Starship challenge traditional design philosophies</p><p>19:33 - Launch capacity</p><p>22:25 - $10m launch costs</p><p>25:14 - Epsilon3 Ad Break</p><p>25:43 - HLS & why Artemis hasn't been redesigned</p><p>28:24 - Thoughts on Blue Moon</p><p>29:43 - Why does a non-Starship Artemis program not move the needle?</p><p>34:18 - Mars & NASA</p><p>36:47 - Is Mars a business?</p><p>37:55 - Startups building in this new regime</p><p>41:09 - Starship IFTs</p><p>42:36 - When will we see the first payload deploying Starship launch?</p><p>43:18 - Does the Starlink model work without Starship?</p><p>44:28 - Is the Falcon enough to replenish Starlink satellites?</p><p>45:24 - Will there be political support for a future with Starship?</p><p>52:05 - How will Starship affect the science fiction genre?</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Casey’s blog — https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/</p><p>Terraform’s website — https://terraformindustries.com/</p><p>Casey’s socials — https://twitter.com/CJHandmer</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 15,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing three media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern (https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/)</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday (https://parallax.payloadspace.com/)</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Two weeks ago, we launched Payload Research, a new division within Payload dedicated to providing incisive, insight-driven analysis tailored for industry leaders and investors. Today, we welcome Jack Kuhr, the esteemed Research Director of Payload, to go under the hood of our new venture. We explore the motivations behind its inception and offer a glimpse into what the future holds. In addition, they discuss:</p><ul><li><a href="https://payloadspace.com/starship-report/"><strong>The Starship Report</strong></a><strong>:</strong> This is Payload Research's inaugural publication, offering comprehensive insights into SpaceX’s heavy lift launch vehicle</li><li><strong>SpaceX’s 2023 Financial Overview: </strong>An in-depth analysis of SpaceX's financial performance in 2023, including a detailed breakdown of its revenue and the methodology employed by our team</li></ul><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p>00:36 - Jack's history with Payload</p><p>04:14 - Why are we building Payload Research?</p><p>10:34 - The Starship Report</p><p>15:58 - When will we see Starship commercial payloads?</p><p>20:12 - Starship cost-analysis</p><p>27:35 - What is Starbase like?</p><p>30:13 - SpaceX’s 2023 financials</p><p>33:18 - Launch assumptions</p><p>34:52 - Starlink assumptions</p><p>39:38 - SpaceX’s Other revenue</p><p>42:44 - Payload's next research newsletter</p><p>43:18 - What should people expect from future Payload research editions?</p><p>44:50 - What is Jack looking forward to covering the most this year?</p><p>46:18 - How to sign up</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>The Starship Report — https://payloadspace.com/starship-report/</p><p>Payload Research’s website — https://www.payloadspace.com/research</p><p>Jack’s socials —https://twitter.com/JackKuhr</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 15,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing three media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern (https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/)</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday (https://parallax.payloadspace.com/)</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2024 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>mo@arkaeamedia.com (Arkaea Media (Payload | Ignition | Tectonic))</author>
      <link>https://pod.payloadspace.com/</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two weeks ago, we launched Payload Research, a new division within Payload dedicated to providing incisive, insight-driven analysis tailored for industry leaders and investors. Today, we welcome Jack Kuhr, the esteemed Research Director of Payload, to go under the hood of our new venture. We explore the motivations behind its inception and offer a glimpse into what the future holds. In addition, they discuss:</p><ul><li><a href="https://payloadspace.com/starship-report/"><strong>The Starship Report</strong></a><strong>:</strong> This is Payload Research's inaugural publication, offering comprehensive insights into SpaceX’s heavy lift launch vehicle</li><li><strong>SpaceX’s 2023 Financial Overview: </strong>An in-depth analysis of SpaceX's financial performance in 2023, including a detailed breakdown of its revenue and the methodology employed by our team</li></ul><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p>00:36 - Jack's history with Payload</p><p>04:14 - Why are we building Payload Research?</p><p>10:34 - The Starship Report</p><p>15:58 - When will we see Starship commercial payloads?</p><p>20:12 - Starship cost-analysis</p><p>27:35 - What is Starbase like?</p><p>30:13 - SpaceX’s 2023 financials</p><p>33:18 - Launch assumptions</p><p>34:52 - Starlink assumptions</p><p>39:38 - SpaceX’s Other revenue</p><p>42:44 - Payload's next research newsletter</p><p>43:18 - What should people expect from future Payload research editions?</p><p>44:50 - What is Jack looking forward to covering the most this year?</p><p>46:18 - How to sign up</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>The Starship Report — https://payloadspace.com/starship-report/</p><p>Payload Research’s website — https://www.payloadspace.com/research</p><p>Jack’s socials —https://twitter.com/JackKuhr</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 15,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world.</p><p>Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing three media properties across multiple platforms:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern (https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/)</p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</p><p>3) Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday (https://parallax.payloadspace.com/)</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2024 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Daniel Faber, CEO of Orbit Fab, a US-based company that is pioneering in-space refueling infrastructure, shares his journey from Tasmania to becoming a leader in the space economy's refueling efforts. Additionally, we delve into:</p><ul><li>Orbit Fab’s mission and services</li><li>The need for refueling capabilities</li><li>The economics of fuel depots</li><li>Viability of asteroid mining</li></ul><p>And much more…</p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p>00:35 - Gas stations in space</p><p>01:44 - Daniel's background</p><p>05:49 - Origins of Orbit Fab</p><p>10:46 - Initial customer base</p><p>11:48 - The demo mission</p><p>13:05 - How does Orbit Fab make money today?</p><p>14:26 - Working with launch providers</p><p>15:25 - Structuring contracts</p><p>20:25 - Do small satellites need refueling?</p><p>23:02 - Contracting with the DoD</p><p>24:11 - Partnership with Astroscale</p><p>26:27 - Findings from the demo mission</p><p>27:54 - RAFTI standardization</p><p>29:10 - The inflection point for refueling</p><p>34:30 - The competition</p><p>35:57 - Fundraising environment</p><p>39:07 - Milestones investors should watch for</p><p>39:58 - Viability of asteroid mining</p><p>44:53 - What Daniel would be building if he wasn't building Orbit Fab</p><p>46:06 - Companies that excite Daniel</p><p><br />• Show notes •</p><p>Orbit Fab's website — https://www.orbitfab.com/</p><p>Orbit Fab's socials — https://twitter.com/OrbitFab</p><p>Daniel's socials — https://twitter.com/_DanielFaber_</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes<br /> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 15,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world. Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers.</p><p>Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing three media properties across multiple platforms: 1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern (https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/) 2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com) 3) Polaris, our weekly policy publication, hits inboxes Tuesday (https://polaris.payloadspace.com/) 4) Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday (https://parallax.payloadspace.com/)</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 9 Jan 2024 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>mo@arkaeamedia.com (Arkaea Media (Payload | Ignition | Tectonic))</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Daniel Faber, CEO of Orbit Fab, a US-based company that is pioneering in-space refueling infrastructure, shares his journey from Tasmania to becoming a leader in the space economy's refueling efforts. Additionally, we delve into:</p><ul><li>Orbit Fab’s mission and services</li><li>The need for refueling capabilities</li><li>The economics of fuel depots</li><li>Viability of asteroid mining</li></ul><p>And much more…</p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p>00:35 - Gas stations in space</p><p>01:44 - Daniel's background</p><p>05:49 - Origins of Orbit Fab</p><p>10:46 - Initial customer base</p><p>11:48 - The demo mission</p><p>13:05 - How does Orbit Fab make money today?</p><p>14:26 - Working with launch providers</p><p>15:25 - Structuring contracts</p><p>20:25 - Do small satellites need refueling?</p><p>23:02 - Contracting with the DoD</p><p>24:11 - Partnership with Astroscale</p><p>26:27 - Findings from the demo mission</p><p>27:54 - RAFTI standardization</p><p>29:10 - The inflection point for refueling</p><p>34:30 - The competition</p><p>35:57 - Fundraising environment</p><p>39:07 - Milestones investors should watch for</p><p>39:58 - Viability of asteroid mining</p><p>44:53 - What Daniel would be building if he wasn't building Orbit Fab</p><p>46:06 - Companies that excite Daniel</p><p><br />• Show notes •</p><p>Orbit Fab's website — https://www.orbitfab.com/</p><p>Orbit Fab's socials — https://twitter.com/OrbitFab</p><p>Daniel's socials — https://twitter.com/_DanielFaber_</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes<br /> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 15,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world. Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers.</p><p>Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing three media properties across multiple platforms: 1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern (https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/) 2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com) 3) Polaris, our weekly policy publication, hits inboxes Tuesday (https://polaris.payloadspace.com/) 4) Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday (https://parallax.payloadspace.com/)</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Every quarter, Lux Capital, a leading venture capital firm known for investing in hard science and deep tech startups, publishes their investor letter offering a unique opportunity to gain insight into the firm's investment thesis and strategy. The firm has been an early supporter of the space industry with early bets in companies like Relativity Space, Epsilon3, Impulse Space, Astranis, Kymeta, Varda, Planet, and Hadrian.</p><p>This week’s Pathfinder features a deep dive on the firm’s latest Q3 letter with General Partner Shahin Farshchi. In addition to Shahin’s own background, the conversation covers:</p><ul><li>Lux’s fundraise success having recently closed Lux 8, a $1.15B venture fund</li><li>The firm’s investment thesis emphasizing the importance of non-consensus hypotheses</li><li>Geopolitical shifts and how they’re impacting long-term investing</li><li>The role of media and the importance of informative and nuanced reporting</li></ul><p>And much more…</p><p>Lux's Q3 Investor Letter: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1s5xiwjG9psi6xRQPsAcI-I7-g6k5Pe--/view</p><p>This episode is brought to you by SpiderOak, a US-based software company that builds space cybersecurity products and solutions for civilian, military, and commercial space operations. Learn more at https://spideroak.com/</p><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Guest Intro & SpiderOak Ad</p><p>01:18 - The Lux 8 fundraise</p><p>02:33 - Shahin's background</p><p>06:38 - How was Lux started</p><p>10:10 - The firm’s structure</p><p>11:48 - A&D over the next decade</p><p>15:30 - Investment highlights</p><p>17:35 - Geopolitical shifts</p><p>19:57 - A look at American Dynamism</p><p>23:41 - Do you need to be a scientist to be a deep tech investor?</p><p>27:03 - A thesis-driven strategy</p><p>33:05 - Advice for emerging managers</p><p>39:11 - The role of media</p><p>42:33 - Starship launch predictions</p><p>43:17 - The second most valuable space company</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Lux's website — https://www.luxcapital.com/</p><p>Lux's socials — https://twitter.com/Lux_Capital</p><p>Shahin's socials — https://twitter.com/Farshchi</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 15,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world. Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers.</p><p>Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing three media properties across multiple platforms: 1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern (https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/) 2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com) 3) Polaris, our weekly policy publication, hits inboxes Tuesday (https://polaris.payloadspace.com/) 4) Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday (https://parallax.payloadspace.com/)</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2023 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Modern engineering teams need to look radically different, at least according to Pari Singh, Founder and CEO of Flow Engineering. Flow, a London and LA-based startup, aims to overhaul traditional engineering approaches with its collaboration platform, specifically tailored for 'new age' hardware teams.</p><p>Flow provides a collaborative platform for hardware and software teams, streamlining requirements management, integrating with key design tools, and offering advanced visualization for efficient design and compliance.</p><p>Mo and Pari’s conversations covers a wide array of topics, including:</p><ul><li>The Flow origin story</li><li>The stagnation of hardware innovation</li><li>How systems engineering has evolved</li><li>The ideal modern engineering team</li><li>Building in London</li></ul><p>And much more…</p><p>This episode is brought to you by SpiderOak, a US-based software company that builds space cybersecurity products and solutions for civilian, military, and commercial space operations. Learn more at https://spideroak.com/</p><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro & SpiderOak ad</p><p>01:11 - Flow: from rockets to software</p><p>06:48 - Was the intention always software?</p><p>08:12 - Hardware innovation stagnation</p><p>09:32 - Flow's products today</p><p>10:32 - New engineering management tools</p><p>12:38 - Scaling space companies</p><p>13:55 - Flow's business model</p><p>14:39 - Other markets Flow is targeting</p><p>15:40 - The go-to market strategy</p><p>16:45 - How do you convince clients to adopt a new engineering process?</p><p>19:29 - Flow's philosophy</p><p>22:30 - SpiderOak ad break</p><p>23:14 - Who makes up Flow's customer base?</p><p>24:06 - The ideal Flow customer</p><p>25:32 - How has systems engineering changed since the Apollo era?</p><p>28:48 - What does a modern engineering team look like?</p><p>33:12 - Will specialization create big enough markets?</p><p>35:44 - Flow's financing round</p><p>37:10 - Finance landscape for software companies building for hardware</p><p>39:15 - What's it like building a team in London?</p><p>39:58 - What does the world look like if every company is using Flow?</p><p>42:10 - If Pari wasn't building Flow, what would he be building?</p><p>42:55 - Companies that excite Pari</p><p>44:20 - What London football team does Pari support?</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Flow's website — https://flowengineering.com/</p><p>Flow's socials — https://twitter.com/flow_engineer</p><p>Pari's socials — https://twitter.com/paritheengineer</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 15,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world. Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers.</p><p>Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing three media properties across multiple platforms: 1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern (https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/) 2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com) 3) Polaris, our weekly policy publication, hits inboxes Tuesday (https://polaris.payloadspace.com/) 4) Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday (https://parallax.payloadspace.com/)</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 5 Dec 2023 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>mo@arkaeamedia.com (Arkaea Media (Payload | Ignition | Tectonic))</author>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2023 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The US manufacturing industry needs a major overhaul and companies like Machina Labs are helping drive that change. Today’s Pathfinder episode features Ed Mehr, cofounder and CEO of Machina Labs, a startup integrating the latest advancements in robotics and AI to construct next-generation factories. Mehr's prior experience at Relativity includes overseeing the development of Stargate, which was the world’s largest 3D printer at the time.</p><p>Machina is focused on creating flexible manufacturing systems, where design and material changes can be made seamlessly without the need for extensive hardware alterations. This flexibility is primarily enabled by advanced robotics and AI, encapsulating Mehr's vision of an agile, responsive manufacturing environment. Machina’s flagship product, the "Robotic Craftsman," epitomizes this concept, combining the dexterity of human craftsmen with sophisticated machine learning algorithms.</p><p>The conversation today delves into the challenges of traditional manufacturing and explores the impact of Machina’s innovations on the space industry. In addition, Ed and Mo discuss:</p><ul><li>Machina’s origin story</li><li>The state of the US manufacturing industry</li><li>Common startup mistakes when building factories</li><li>Elon’s manufacturing algorithm</li></ul><p>And much more…</p><p>This episode is brought to you by SpiderOak, a US-based software company that builds space cybersecurity products and solutions for civilian, military, and commercial space operations. Learn more at https://spideroak.com/</p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro & SpiderOak Ad </p><p>02:02 - What is Machina Labs? </p><p>03:07 - The Falcon 9 issue </p><p>05:26 - Key product offerings </p><p>08:05 - Origin of roboforming </p><p>09:16 - Machina’s roboforming </p><p>14:24 - Importance of manufacturing in the US </p><p>18:06 - Keynote of the business </p><p>20:10 - Industries of focus </p><p>24:57 - The business model </p><p>28:28 - SpiderOak Ad Break </p><p>29:15 - Measuring the market size </p><p>31:44 - The Machina team </p><p>33:12 - Partnership with Nvidia </p><p>34:49 - Common manufacturing mistakes </p><p>37:48 - Machina’s competition </p><p>41:23 - Machina Labs's place in the market 20 years from now </p><p>44:02 - Evolution of aerospace manufacturing in the next decade </p><p>45:37 - Favorite new manufacturing technologies</p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Machina Lab's website — https://machinalabs.ai/ </p><p>Machina Lab's socials — https://twitter.com/MachinaLabs_ </p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam </p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace </p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 15,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world. Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers.</p><p>Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing three media properties across multiple platforms: 1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern (https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/) 2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com) 3) Polaris, our weekly policy publication, hits inboxes Tuesday (https://polaris.payloadspace.com/) 4) Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday (https://parallax.payloadspace.com/)</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Since stints at Airbus and ArianeGroup, Hélène Huby has shifted her focus to developing the Nyx spacecraft, Europe’s first privately funded cargo and crew capsule - a significant step for ESA’s future in the global space race. As of now, Europe does not have its own operational cargo or crew capsule and has relied on the capabilities of the US and Russia.</p><p>Huby has already made significant progress securing the largest Series A financing for a European space startup - a €40.5 million round in February of 2023. In addition to The Exploration Company’s origin story, Mo and Helene discuss:</p><ul><li>The first launch in 2024</li><li>Nyx vs. Starliner vs. Crew Dragon</li><li>Capsule design challenges</li><li>Why Europe does not have a capsule</li></ul><p>And much more…</p><p>This episode is brought to you by SpiderOak, a US-based software company that builds space cybersecurity products and solutions for civilian, military, and commercial space operations. Learn more at https://spideroak.com/</p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro & SpiderOak Ad</p><p>01:50 - Helene's background and how she started The Exploration Company</p><p>04:12 - Lack of government funded capsules in Europe</p><p>08:58 - Why build crew capsules?</p><p>13:15 - The Nyx capsule</p><p>16:26 - Fuel selection</p><p>18:37 - Nyx vs. Starliner vs. Crew Dragon</p><p>21:11 - Design challenges shifting from cargo to human</p><p>24:43 - The product roadmap</p><p>28:23 - SpiderOak Ad break</p><p>29:10 - The business model</p><p>31:23 - Is there a market for a space station?</p><p>37:17 - Building and R&D for a space station with and without government aid</p><p>41:49 - Commercial traction</p><p>44:20 - Being the first privately funded crew capsule</p><p>48:28 - The long-term vision</p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>The Exploration Company's website — https://www.exploration.space/</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 15,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world. Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers.</p><p>Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing three media properties across multiple platforms: 1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern (https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/) 2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com) 3) Polaris, our weekly policy publication, hits inboxes Tuesday (https://polaris.payloadspace.com/) 4) Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday (https://parallax.payloadspace.com/)</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2023 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Relativity Space CEO Tim Ellis knows what went wrong during Terran 1’s first flight—and he shared with Payload why he is confident the same thing won’t happen to the startup’s Terran R rocket.</p><p>What’s next: After the March flight, Relativity announced that it was scrapping Terran 1 development to focus solely on its larger Terran R vehicle.</p><p>Ellis emphasized that this shift is not merely about scaling size, but also better aligning with market demands ($1.8B Terran R pipeline) and the broader vision of the company.</p><p>Overall R&D costs should be in the ballpark of ~$1B, Ellis estimated, adding that it is designed to be reusable from the start and carry 23,500 kg to LEO.</p><p>Brand awareness: In an industry dealing with expensive, long-term projects (i.e., space), it's crucial to inspire and motivate people by focusing on high-effort, creative presentations, Ellis said. The aim is to make Relativity not just a rocket company but a brand that resonates with a broader audience. And music—particularly electronic music—plays a role in the brand's energy, reflecting Ellis's personal tastes.</p><p>Listen to Pathfinder #0071 for more on Relativity’s future on Mars, whether there’s a rocket larger than Terran R in Relativity’s future, the long-term strategy for 3D printing, and much more.</p><p>This episode is brought to you by SpiderOak, a US-based software company that builds space cybersecurity products and solutions for civilian, military, and commercial space operations. Learn more at https://spideroak.com/</p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro & SpiderOak Ad</p><p>01:09 - The night of the Terran 1 launch</p><p>05:11 - What went wrong?</p><p>10:11 - Why not launch Terran 1 again?</p><p>15:18 - Are investors okay pushing out an orbital proof point?</p><p>20:38 - Terran R tech specs</p><p>29:05 - SpiderOak Ad break</p><p>29:52 - Milestones for Terran R</p><p>34:31 - Terran R's manufacturing cadence at scale</p><p>37:46 - Terran R R&D costs (vs Falcon 9)</p><p>46:13 - 3D printing the Terran R</p><p>51:34 - The future of 3D printing</p><p>58:32 - Relativity's marketing strategy</p><p>01:09:53 - Heavier than Terran R</p><p>01:14:48 - Relativity & Mars</p><p>01:15:22 - Tim's favorite musical artists</p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Relativity's website — https://www.relativityspace.com/</p><p>Relativity's socials — https://twitter.com/relativityspace</p><p>Tim's socials — https://twitter.com/thetimellis</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 15,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world. Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers.</p><p>Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing three media properties across multiple platforms: 1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern (https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/) 2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com) 3) Polaris, our weekly policy publication, hits inboxes Tuesday (https://polaris.payloadspace.com/) 4) Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday (https://parallax.payloadspace.com/)</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 7 Nov 2023 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2023 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2023 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>mo@arkaeamedia.com (Arkaea Media (Payload | Ignition | Tectonic))</author>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2023 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2023 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 3 Oct 2023 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2023 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2023 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There’s a growing demand for streamlined communication and collaboration tools in the space industry. Integrate Space, based in Seattle, is tackling this challenge head-on. Co-founded by John Conafay, a veteran with ties to the USAF, ABL, Spaceflight, and Astranis, the startup aims to modernize program management, offering digital solutions to track development schedules, coordinate missions, and improve vendor collaboration. </p><p>John believes that a platform like Integrate needs to be part of every industry building complex hardware. With newly acquired funding and two new contracts with the USSF and Firefly Aerospace, the company is expanding its team and moving into a new office in Seattle. Though space was where Integrate started, the company with the help of its new investors intends to expand into the biotech and cybersecurity industries. </p><p>A sneak peek… </p><p>In today’s episode, Mo and John chat: </p><p>– The landscape of digital tools in the industry </p><p>– Integrate’s business model and core value proposition </p><p>– Raising capital in the current market </p><p>– Digital solution platforms at scale </p><p>And much more… </p><p>This episode is brought to you by SpiderOak, a US-based software company that builds space cybersecurity products and solutions for civilian, military, and commercial space operations. Learn more at https://spideroak.com/ </p><p>• Chapters • </p><p>00:00 - Intro </p><p>00:28 - SpiderOak Ad </p><p>01:05 - Integrate introduction </p><p>03:32 - How would you describe what Integrate does to your 5-year-old cousin? </p><p>05:34 - John's history with the new space industry </p><p>13:51 - Is Integrate's solution a nice to have or integral to solving huge inefficiencies? </p><p>16:14 - Integrate's core offering </p><p>17:31 - Initial target/customer base </p><p>18:36 - Integrate's business model </p><p>19:28 - How large is Integrate's team today? </p><p>20:23 - Integrate's branding origin </p><p>22:41 - SpiderOak Ad </p><p>23:28 - Recent contract wins </p><p>27:07 - Integrate's use case for the government </p><p>29:08 - How does Integrate fit in the competitive landscape? </p><p>31:15 - Does Integrate compete against internal builds from larger companies? </p><p>32:59 - Digital tools at scale </p><p>34:04 - Round construction </p><p>37:13 - Growth areas for Integrate </p><p>39:45 - Integrate beyond space </p><p>40:59 - Advice for founders looking to raise pre-seed funding </p><p>43:07 - Tech that John is a big fan of </p><p>47:28 - Favorite space book/show </p><p>49:03 - How to get invited to an Integrate party/get connected as a customer </p><p>• Show notes • </p><p>Integrate's website — https://integrate.space/ </p><p>Integrate's socials — https://twitter.com/Integrate_hrdwr </p><p>John's socials — https://twitter.com/JConafay </p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam </p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 15,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world. Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers.</p><p>Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing three media properties across multiple platforms: 1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern (https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/) 2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com) 3) Polaris, our weekly policy publication, hits inboxes Tuesday (https://polaris.payloadspace.com/) 4) Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday (https://parallax.payloadspace.com/)</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Space's unique environment holds vast potential for biotech advancements, Mark Kugel, co-CEO and cofounder of German space biotech company Yuri, told Payload.</p><p> </p><p>Why space? In this week’s Pathfinder podcast, Mark says that space changes biological systems in commercially valuable ways:</p><p>– Complex Cell Development: Enhanced growth results in superior organoids, optimizing drug testing and tissue engineering.</p><p>– Crystal Quality and Size: Space improves the formation of protein crystals, bolstering drug discovery and delivery processes.</p><p>– Human Aging Effects: Studying space's impact on aging could illuminate early-stage drug solutions for age-driven diseases, such as cancer.</p><p>– Microbial Evolution: Space prompts unique microbial adaptations, potentially producing advanced strains and enzymes beneficial for the pharma, food, and agritech sectors.</p><p> </p><p>Yuri’s core innovations:</p><p>– Space-ready Bioreactors: Yuri's modular bioreactor system offers a novel approach for cultivating biological materials in space. Compact and transport-friendly, it's tailored for expeditions, including the ISS.</p><p>– Ground-Based Space Simulation: Prior to committing to space-bound projects, researchers can utilize Yuri's simulator to anticipate the effects of microgravity on their experiments.</p><p> </p><p>Yuri's partners range from pharmaceutical giants and government agencies to academic institutions. The company has worked with the likes of NASA, ESA, and GSK, the British multinational pharma and biotech company.</p><p> </p><p>A sneak peek…</p><p>Before Yuri, Mark Kugel supported the digital transformation of Rolls-Royce Power Systems and built an "Airbnb for consumer products" called Usely. In today’s episode, we chat:</p><p>– Yuri’s origin story</p><p>– A history of biotech in space</p><p>– The initial focus on synbio and drug discovery</p><p>– Why space biotech is ready for commercialization</p><p> </p><p>This episode is brought to you by SpiderOak, a US-based software company that builds space cybersecurity products and solutions for civilian, military, and commercial space operations. Learn more at https://spideroak.com/</p><p>And much more…</p><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro & SpiderOak Ad</p><p>01:42 - What does Yuri do?</p><p>02:35 - How did Mark get into bio tech and start working at Yuri?</p><p>06:06 - Is this industry starting to inflect?</p><p>09:31 - What does microgravity enable in biotech?</p><p>15:51 - Bacteria in space</p><p>18:37 - Space biotech industry now vs. the future</p><p>24:23 - Yuri's business model</p><p>32:00 - Yuri's team</p><p>35:05 - Synbio from the context of space</p><p>38:59 - From R&D in space to Earth at scale</p><p>41:20 - Milestones at Yuri</p><p>42:44 - Yuri's competitors</p><p>44:07 - Why is Germany the right place to build?</p><p>46:03 - Government use case</p><p>47:10 - Yuri in 10-20 years</p><p>48:33 - Space tech that Mark is excited about</p><p>49:26 - When is Yuri's next project launching?</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Yuri's website — https://yurigravity.com/</p><p>Yuri' socials — https://twitter.com/yurigravity</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 15,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world. Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers.</p><p>Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing three media properties across multiple platforms: 1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern (https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/) 2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com) 3) Polaris, our weekly policy publication, hits inboxes Tuesday (https://polaris.payloadspace.com/) 4) Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday (https://parallax.payloadspace.com/)</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2023 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>mo@arkaeamedia.com (Arkaea Media (Payload | Ignition | Tectonic))</author>
      <link>https://pod.payloadspace.com/</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Space's unique environment holds vast potential for biotech advancements, Mark Kugel, co-CEO and cofounder of German space biotech company Yuri, told Payload.</p><p> </p><p>Why space? In this week’s Pathfinder podcast, Mark says that space changes biological systems in commercially valuable ways:</p><p>– Complex Cell Development: Enhanced growth results in superior organoids, optimizing drug testing and tissue engineering.</p><p>– Crystal Quality and Size: Space improves the formation of protein crystals, bolstering drug discovery and delivery processes.</p><p>– Human Aging Effects: Studying space's impact on aging could illuminate early-stage drug solutions for age-driven diseases, such as cancer.</p><p>– Microbial Evolution: Space prompts unique microbial adaptations, potentially producing advanced strains and enzymes beneficial for the pharma, food, and agritech sectors.</p><p> </p><p>Yuri’s core innovations:</p><p>– Space-ready Bioreactors: Yuri's modular bioreactor system offers a novel approach for cultivating biological materials in space. Compact and transport-friendly, it's tailored for expeditions, including the ISS.</p><p>– Ground-Based Space Simulation: Prior to committing to space-bound projects, researchers can utilize Yuri's simulator to anticipate the effects of microgravity on their experiments.</p><p> </p><p>Yuri's partners range from pharmaceutical giants and government agencies to academic institutions. The company has worked with the likes of NASA, ESA, and GSK, the British multinational pharma and biotech company.</p><p> </p><p>A sneak peek…</p><p>Before Yuri, Mark Kugel supported the digital transformation of Rolls-Royce Power Systems and built an "Airbnb for consumer products" called Usely. In today’s episode, we chat:</p><p>– Yuri’s origin story</p><p>– A history of biotech in space</p><p>– The initial focus on synbio and drug discovery</p><p>– Why space biotech is ready for commercialization</p><p> </p><p>This episode is brought to you by SpiderOak, a US-based software company that builds space cybersecurity products and solutions for civilian, military, and commercial space operations. Learn more at https://spideroak.com/</p><p>And much more…</p><p> </p><p>• Chapters •</p><p>00:00 - Intro & SpiderOak Ad</p><p>01:42 - What does Yuri do?</p><p>02:35 - How did Mark get into bio tech and start working at Yuri?</p><p>06:06 - Is this industry starting to inflect?</p><p>09:31 - What does microgravity enable in biotech?</p><p>15:51 - Bacteria in space</p><p>18:37 - Space biotech industry now vs. the future</p><p>24:23 - Yuri's business model</p><p>32:00 - Yuri's team</p><p>35:05 - Synbio from the context of space</p><p>38:59 - From R&D in space to Earth at scale</p><p>41:20 - Milestones at Yuri</p><p>42:44 - Yuri's competitors</p><p>44:07 - Why is Germany the right place to build?</p><p>46:03 - Government use case</p><p>47:10 - Yuri in 10-20 years</p><p>48:33 - Space tech that Mark is excited about</p><p>49:26 - When is Yuri's next project launching?</p><p> </p><p>• Show notes •</p><p>Yuri's website — https://yurigravity.com/</p><p>Yuri' socials — https://twitter.com/yurigravity</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><p> </p><p>• About us •</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 15,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world. Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers.</p><p>Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing three media properties across multiple platforms: 1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern (https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/) 2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com) 3) Polaris, our weekly policy publication, hits inboxes Tuesday (https://polaris.payloadspace.com/) 4) Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday (https://parallax.payloadspace.com/)</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>The clock is ticking on Voyager’s aspirations in LEO.</p><p>In 2021, the Denver-based space exploration company announced its goal to launch a commercial space station by 2028, three years ahead of the ISS retirement. Clay Mowry, the chief revenue officer of Voyager Space and one of the driving forces behind that vision, joins Pathfinder this week to dive into the company’s plans to build infrastructure in Earth orbit. </p><p>The LEO significance: With the ISS bowing out, LEO-based ventures like Voyager’s Starlab are poised to fill a gap in LEO, though they aren’t the only ones chasing that goal. Other companies like Axiom, Sierra Space, and Northrop are working in partnership with NASA to capture the billions of dollars spent on the ISS every year. </p><p>The focus of Starlab, which is partially funded by a $160M space act agreement with NASA, will be on research applications, rather than tourism. The station is designed to fit on a single launch, outfitted on the ground with all the research equipment needed for its customers. It’s expected to be able to hold four people and will be used to conduct scientific research.</p><p>The company recently <a href="https://payloadspace.com/voyager-and-airbus-team-up-to-replace-the-iss/">announced</a> a collaboration with Airbus Defense and Space. The international joint venture will be based out of the US, but features a European arm focused on serving the European Space Agency (ESA) and its member space agencies.</p><p>A sneak peak…</p><p>Before taking up the role of CRO in January 2022, Mowry made instrumental contributions at Blue Origin and oversaw operations at Arianespace, Inc. Beyond Voyager, Mowry's influence extends to the International Astronautical Federation, an international non-governmental organization (NGO) that was founded in 1951 to promote the peaceful use of space. In addition to Voyager’s future, we chat:</p><ul><li>Clay’s time at Arianespace and Blue Origin</li><li>Why Starlab is critical to our future in space</li><li>The partnership with Airbus</li><li>Cultural changes in the space industry</li><li>The IAF and its mission</li><li>And much more…</li></ul><p>This episode is brought to you by SpiderOak, a US-based software company that builds space cybersecurity products and solutions for civilian, military, and commercial space operations. Learn more at https://spideroak.com/ </p><p>• Chapters • </p><p>00:00 - Intro & SpiderOak Ad</p><p>02:19 - Clay's background and interest in space</p><p>07:20 - From Arianespace to Blue Origin</p><p>11:27 - The first New Shepard Auction</p><p>14:08 - Role as CRO at Voyager</p><p>16:08 - Is Voyager a holding company?</p><p>16:48 - Brief background on Dylan Taylor</p><p>18:45 - Who convinced Clay to join Voyager?</p><p>20:08 - What is Starlab?</p><p>28:20 - Partnership with Airbus</p><p>31:21 - SpiderOak Ad</p><p>32:09 - The case for private space stations</p><p>40:19 - How heavy launch will change mass and design constraints for the industry</p><p>43:06 - Competitive landscape</p><p>46:06 - What is the IAF?</p><p>49:33 - Biggest cultural changes in space</p><p>51:17 - When do you think New Glenn will fly?</p><p>• Show notes • </p><p>Voyager's website — https://voyagerspace.com/</p><p>Clay's socials — https://twitter.com/claymowry</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam </p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace </p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes </p><p>• About us • </p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 15,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world. Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. </p><p>Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing three media properties across multiple platforms: 1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern (https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/) 2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com) 3) Polaris, our weekly policy publication, hits inboxes Tuesday (https://polaris.payloadspace.com/) 4) Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday (https://parallax.payloadspace.com/)</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 5 Sep 2023 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2023 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do a baseball enthusiast, a craft beer podcast host, and a space journalist have in common? A role at Payload! Today's Pathfinder podcast features a very special guest: Payload’s very own Managing Editor, Jacqueline Feldscher. </p><p>Fresh out of college, Jacqueline aspired to become a sports reporter, but D.C. soon drew her into the worlds of policy, national security, and, fortuitously for us, space. After stints at renowned media organizations such as Politico and Defense One, she felt the irresistible pull of the startup world. Answering that call, she took the leap and joined Payload as a Senior Reporter to only quickly be promoted to Managing Editor. </p><p>A sneak peek… </p><p>Jacqueline joins Mo today to discuss a variety of key policy trends that will shape the space industry over the next few years including: </p><ul><li>The Upcoming Presidential Election </li><li>Space Debris Regulation</li><li>Commercial Spaceflight Regulations</li><li>The Artemis Accords</li><li>The Future of Space Command HQ </li></ul><p>Be sure to check out more of Jacqueline’s work by signing up for her weekly newsletter, Polaris.</p><p><strong>• Chapters •</strong> </p><p>00:00 - Introduction </p><p>00:34 - Who is Jacqueline and what do you do at Payload? </p><p>02:20 - What drove your interest in journalism? </p><p>03:38 - From sports to government & national security </p><p>06:14 - Your background prior to Payload </p><p>08:57 - Why go from established media to a fledgling startup? </p><p>10:24 - Insight into your craft </p><p>12:50 - Role of media in the space industry </p><p>14:22 - What is Polaris? </p><p>16:14 - Trends shaping space policy </p><p>18:36 - Debris removal regulation roadblocks </p><p>22:57 - Artemis Accords, more bark than bite? </p><p>26:00 - What happens if SpaceX lands on Mars? </p><p>28:15 - Commercial spaceflight moratorium </p><p>31:48 - 2024 Presidential Elections </p><p>37:08 - Do you think the battle for Huntsville is over? </p><p>38:22 - Aliens?! </p><p>39:27 - Investigative journalism in the industry </p><p>41:20 - Challenges transitioning from a senior writer to an editor of a publication? </p><p>43:14 - Favorite space topic to cover? </p><p>44:23 - Views on the Kessler Syndrome </p><p>45:35 - What do you enjoy most about Payload? </p><p>46:24 - Who's the bigger baby? </p><p>46:56 - Jacqueline's beer podcast </p><p>48:34 - Advice for aspiring space journalists </p><p><strong>• Show notes •</strong> </p><p>Sign up for Polaris! — https://polaris.payloadspace.com/ </p><p>Jacqueline's socials — https://twitter.com/zeno_power </p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam </p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace </p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes </p><p><strong>• About us •</strong> </p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 15,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world. Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. </p><p>Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing three media properties across multiple platforms: 1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern (https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/) 2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com) 3) Polaris, our weekly policy publication, hits inboxes Tuesday (https://polaris.payloadspace.com/) 4) Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday (https://parallax.payloadspace.com/)</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Nuclear technology is having its moment, according to Zeno Power cofounder and CEO Tyler Bernstein.</p><p>NASA has used radioisotope tech since the 1960s, but the systems have historically been too expensive and heavy to be widely used. Zeno Power, which develops radioisotope power systems (RPS) that are lighter, more efficient, and more cost-effective than legacy systems, is trying to change that.</p><p>How it works? Zeno Power's RPS works by converting the heat from decaying radioisotopes into electricity. Its initial system uses Strontium-90 (Sr-90), an abundant and affordable fuel that has been used in thousands of legacy RPSs. The core innovation is in the fuel design and shielding technology, a key issue given Sr-90’s radioactive properties.</p><p>The company has had a recent string of commercial successes, including a number of unannounced contracts, but some of the public wins are:</p><ul><li>A $30M STRATFI contract awarded in May to build a radioisotope-powered satellite for the U.S. Air Force by 2025.</li><li>A $15M NASA Tipping Point award to develop an Americium-241 (Am-241) radioisotope Stirling generator (RSG) for long-duration lunar missions.</li></ul><p>This week’s Pathfinder episode features Tyler Bernstein, Zeno Power’s CEO. The company was founded in 2018 by Tyler and two other Vanderbilt undergrads after working on a project to design a nuclear reactor for a Boeing 777. </p><p>Today, Mo and Tyler discuss:</p><ul><li>Zeno Power’s origin story</li><li>A brief history of nuclear power in space</li><li>The benefits of using radioisotope power systems</li><li>The future of fission and fusion</li><li>And much more…</li></ul><p>This episode is brought to you by Epsilon3, software for complex engineering, testing, and operational procedures. Learn more at https://www.epsilon3.io/</p><p>• Chapters • </p><p>00:00 - Intro and Ad Break
</p><p>01:46 - Who is Tyler Bernstein and what is Zeno Power?
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</p><p>11:42 - A history of nuclear in space
</p><p>14:04 - Nuclear regulations
</p><p>17:48 - Zeno's core product and customer
</p><p>21:33 - Disposal and containment during development
</p><p>22:44 - Cost effectiveness vs traditional power systems</p><p>24:43 - Epsilon3 Ad Break</p><p>25:12 - Future of nuclear in space
</p><p>28:37 - Customer targets outside of space
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</p><p>38:05 - Zeno's products in 10 years
</p><p>39:55 - State of nuclear energy today and its regulations
</p><p>43:57 - Fusion vs Fission
</p><p>46:19 - Other exciting space companies?</p><p>• Show notes • </p><p>Zeno Power's website — https://www.zenopower.com/</p><p>Zeno Power's socials — https://twitter.com/zeno_power</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam </p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace </p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes </p><p>• About us • </p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 15,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world. Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. </p><p>Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing three media properties across multiple platforms: 1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern (https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/) 2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com) 3) Polaris, our weekly policy publication, hits inboxes Tuesday (https://polaris.payloadspace.com/) 4) Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday (https://parallax.payloadspace.com/)</p>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 9 Aug 2023 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>mo@arkaeamedia.com (Arkaea Media (Payload | Ignition | Tectonic))</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nuclear technology is having its moment, according to Zeno Power cofounder and CEO Tyler Bernstein.</p><p>NASA has used radioisotope tech since the 1960s, but the systems have historically been too expensive and heavy to be widely used. Zeno Power, which develops radioisotope power systems (RPS) that are lighter, more efficient, and more cost-effective than legacy systems, is trying to change that.</p><p>How it works? Zeno Power's RPS works by converting the heat from decaying radioisotopes into electricity. Its initial system uses Strontium-90 (Sr-90), an abundant and affordable fuel that has been used in thousands of legacy RPSs. The core innovation is in the fuel design and shielding technology, a key issue given Sr-90’s radioactive properties.</p><p>The company has had a recent string of commercial successes, including a number of unannounced contracts, but some of the public wins are:</p><ul><li>A $30M STRATFI contract awarded in May to build a radioisotope-powered satellite for the U.S. Air Force by 2025.</li><li>A $15M NASA Tipping Point award to develop an Americium-241 (Am-241) radioisotope Stirling generator (RSG) for long-duration lunar missions.</li></ul><p>This week’s Pathfinder episode features Tyler Bernstein, Zeno Power’s CEO. The company was founded in 2018 by Tyler and two other Vanderbilt undergrads after working on a project to design a nuclear reactor for a Boeing 777. </p><p>Today, Mo and Tyler discuss:</p><ul><li>Zeno Power’s origin story</li><li>A brief history of nuclear power in space</li><li>The benefits of using radioisotope power systems</li><li>The future of fission and fusion</li><li>And much more…</li></ul><p>This episode is brought to you by Epsilon3, software for complex engineering, testing, and operational procedures. Learn more at https://www.epsilon3.io/</p><p>• Chapters • </p><p>00:00 - Intro and Ad Break
</p><p>01:46 - Who is Tyler Bernstein and what is Zeno Power?
</p><p>02:53 - Nuclear powered 777</p><p>05:42 - How are nuclear reactors used today?</p><p>
</p><p>11:42 - A history of nuclear in space
</p><p>14:04 - Nuclear regulations
</p><p>17:48 - Zeno's core product and customer
</p><p>21:33 - Disposal and containment during development
</p><p>22:44 - Cost effectiveness vs traditional power systems</p><p>24:43 - Epsilon3 Ad Break</p><p>25:12 - Future of nuclear in space
</p><p>28:37 - Customer targets outside of space
</p><p>29:41 - Zeno's competitors
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</p><p>38:05 - Zeno's products in 10 years
</p><p>39:55 - State of nuclear energy today and its regulations
</p><p>43:57 - Fusion vs Fission
</p><p>46:19 - Other exciting space companies?</p><p>• Show notes • </p><p>Zeno Power's website — https://www.zenopower.com/</p><p>Zeno Power's socials — https://twitter.com/zeno_power</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam </p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace </p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes </p><p>• About us • </p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 15,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world. Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. </p><p>Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing three media properties across multiple platforms: 1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern (https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/) 2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com) 3) Polaris, our weekly policy publication, hits inboxes Tuesday (https://polaris.payloadspace.com/) 4) Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday (https://parallax.payloadspace.com/)</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>This week’s Pathfinder podcast features  Dr. Ellen Stofan, the Under Secretary of Science and Research at the Smithsonian. She oversees its science research centers and the National Air and Space Museum, National Museum of Natural History and the National Zoo.</p><p>Dr. Ellen Stofan is an American geologist and former NASA scientist who specialized in the geology of Venus, Mars, and Saturn's moon Titan. Ellen has held several key positions at NASA, including Chief Scientist from 2013 to 2016. During her tenure as Chief Scientist, she was instrumental in the development of a long-term plan to get humans to Mars and worked on strategies for NASA's science programs and science-related strategic goals and objectives.</p><p>Ellen is now the Under Secretary for Science and Research at the Smithsonian. She oversees its science research centers and the National Air and Space Museum, National Museum of Natural History and the National Zoo.</p><p>Today, Mo, Rachael and Ellen discuss:</p><ul><li>Ellen’s work at NASA and the Smithsonian</li><li>NASA’s approach to collaboration with commercial space</li><li>The privatization of the ISS</li><li>NASA’s strategy around Mars and Starship</li><li>Governance structure for off-planet habitation</li><li>And much more…</li></ul><p>• Chapters • </p><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p>01:03 - Ellen as Chief Scientist of NASA</p><p>06:11 - Were you destined to work at NASA?</p><p>07:51 - Changes in the space industry since Ellen's tenure at NASA</p><p>10:39 - Ellen's career post-NASA</p><p>13:59 - Managing expectations of the public</p><p>16:09 - Marrying the goals of NASA and the commercial space industry</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>26:56 - How has NASA's Mars strategy changed?</p><p>29:39 - How do you gauge the public's interest in space projects?</p><p>31:26 - What technical problems remain for a crewed Mars mission?</p><p>33:21 - Impact of Starship on Mars?</p><p>34:54 - Will Starship change mass and design decision for science missions?</p><p>38:17 - Other noteworthy innovations from commercial space?</p><p>39:45 - Most interesting place for humans to visit outside of Mars?</p><p>41:33 - If we colonize Mars, what type of government should be instituted?</p><p>43:22 - "For All Mankind" and Space Race 2.0</p><p>46:11 - Favorite piece/installation from the Smithsonian</p><p>47:33 - Where  would you go in the Solar System and what ship  would you take?</p><p>48:20 - Will we find evidence that there is life on Mars?</p><p>• Show notes • </p><p>Smithsonian's socials — https://twitter.com/smithsonian</p><p>Rachael's socials — https://twitter.com/RachaelZisk</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam </p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace </p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes </p><p>• About us • </p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 15,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world. Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. </p><p>Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing three media properties across multiple platforms: 1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern (https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/) 2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com) 3) Polaris, our weekly policy publication, hits inboxes Tuesday (https://polaris.payloadspace.com/) 4) Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday (https://parallax.payloadspace.com/)</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 1 Aug 2023 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>What does a space station, a lunar lander, a nuclear reactor, and a fleet of cislunar space vehicles have in common? They’re all part of serial space entrepreneur Kam Ghaffarian’s holding company IBX.</p><p>IBX consists of:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.axiomspace.com/">Axiom Space</a>, which provides private flights to the ISS and is also developing a commercial space station.</li><li><a href="https://www.intuitivemachines.com/">Intuitive Machines</a>, which is developing autonomous lunar landing systems.</li><li><a href="https://x-energy.com/">X-Energy</a>, an engineering company working on nuclear reactors and fuel design.</li><li><a href="https://quantumspace.us/">Quantum Space</a>, which provides payload transportation, critical data, and infrastructure services in geostationary orbit and cislunar space.</li></ul><p>This week’s Pathfinder podcast features IBX’s Chief Investment Officer, Anton Brevde. Anton was previously a general partner at famed deep tech venture fund, Prime Movers Lab, where he led  space investments. </p><p>Payload went under the hood to understand how the four companies relate to one another and discuss the current state of the space economy, particularly:</p><ul><li>Anton’s role managing the business and capital needs of four highly complex businesses</li><li>Fundraising for space companies in today’s market environment</li><li>The role of government as a provider of non-dilutive funding</li><li>The most common do’s and don’ts for space founders</li><li>And much more…</li></ul><p>This episode is brought to you by Epsilon3, software for complex engineering, testing, and operational procedures. Learn more at https://www.epsilon3.io/</p><p>• Chapters • </p><p>00:00 - Intro and Epsilon3 Ad
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</p><p>08:58 - New role at IBX</p><p>10:37 - Why the increased focus on the space industry?
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</p><p>01:03:05 - Where to find Anton's blog</p><p>• Show notes • </p><p>IBX's website — https://i-b-x.com/</p><p>Anton's blog — https://anton78704.medium.com/</p><p>Anton's socials — https://twitter.com/anton_brevde</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam </p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace </p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes </p><p>• About us • </p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 15,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world. Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. </p><p>Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing three media properties across multiple platforms: 1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern (https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/) 2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com) 3) Polaris, our weekly policy publication, hits inboxes Tuesday (https://polaris.payloadspace.com/) 4) Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday (https://parallax.payloadspace.com/)</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2023 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does a space station, a lunar lander, a nuclear reactor, and a fleet of cislunar space vehicles have in common? They’re all part of serial space entrepreneur Kam Ghaffarian’s holding company IBX.</p><p>IBX consists of:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.axiomspace.com/">Axiom Space</a>, which provides private flights to the ISS and is also developing a commercial space station.</li><li><a href="https://www.intuitivemachines.com/">Intuitive Machines</a>, which is developing autonomous lunar landing systems.</li><li><a href="https://x-energy.com/">X-Energy</a>, an engineering company working on nuclear reactors and fuel design.</li><li><a href="https://quantumspace.us/">Quantum Space</a>, which provides payload transportation, critical data, and infrastructure services in geostationary orbit and cislunar space.</li></ul><p>This week’s Pathfinder podcast features IBX’s Chief Investment Officer, Anton Brevde. Anton was previously a general partner at famed deep tech venture fund, Prime Movers Lab, where he led  space investments. </p><p>Payload went under the hood to understand how the four companies relate to one another and discuss the current state of the space economy, particularly:</p><ul><li>Anton’s role managing the business and capital needs of four highly complex businesses</li><li>Fundraising for space companies in today’s market environment</li><li>The role of government as a provider of non-dilutive funding</li><li>The most common do’s and don’ts for space founders</li><li>And much more…</li></ul><p>This episode is brought to you by Epsilon3, software for complex engineering, testing, and operational procedures. Learn more at https://www.epsilon3.io/</p><p>• Chapters • </p><p>00:00 - Intro and Epsilon3 Ad
</p><p>01:12 - Experience at Prime Movers Lab (PML)</p><p>
</p><p>06:47 - PML's investment philosophy 
</p><p>08:58 - New role at IBX</p><p>10:37 - Why the increased focus on the space industry?
</p><p>12:36 - Responsibilities of a Chief Investment Officer
</p><p>14:42 - Common thread between IBX companies</p><p>19:26 - What is X-Energy?</p><p>22:57 - What is Quantum Space</p><p>26:06 - Epsilon Ad break
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Picture a world where you can complete your 6-month engineering project in just 6 weeks by removing typical bottlenecks in your workflows. That’s what cofounder and CEO of Prewitt Ridge Steve Massey believes his company can help both government and commercial stakeholders of the space industry achieve.</p><p>Enter Prewitt Ridge: Prewitt Ridge is a software company that helps engineers manage engineering requirements in complex projects. The company's software, Verve, captures and manages engineering requirements inside the tools where they originate and across complex datasets.</p><p>Said differently…Prewitt Ridge's software helps engineers to be more organized and efficient, which can lead to faster, cheaper and more reliable product development. </p><p>A sneak peek…</p><p>Steve held roles at Slingshot Aerospace and SpaceX before teaming up with fellow cofounder and CTO Zeke Brechtel to start Prewitt Ridge. Today, Mo and Steve discuss:</p><ul><li>Prewitt Ridge’s value-add to the space industry</li><li>NASA’s expertise in systems engineering</li><li>The future of automation in aerospace</li><li>Working on Hyperloop technology</li><li>And much more…</li></ul><p>This episode is brought to you by Epsilon3, software for complex engineering, testing, and operational procedures. Learn more at https://www.epsilon3.io/</p><p>• Chapters • </p><p>00:00 - Intro and Epsilon3 Ad
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</p><p>03:03 - What is Prewitt Ridge?</p><p>04:46 - Keeping all stakeholders coordinated
</p><p>06:21 - What inspired you to build the company?</p><p>10:51 - Common mistakes for space founders
</p><p>12:45 - Automatic vs manual systems
</p><p>15:40 - Is systems engineering just an exercise in paperwork?
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</p><p>26:44 - What products are you building today?
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</p><p>36:14 - What is a digital thread?
</p><p>37:34 - The Techstars Space Accelerator</p><p>40:25 - What is Hyperloop and how did you start working on it? </p><p>45:27 - Where do you see automation spreading in the space industry?
</p><p>52:13 - Where does the name Prewitt come from?
</p><p>52:57 - What do you do in your free time?</p><p>• Show notes • </p><p>Prewitt Ridge's website — https://www.prewittridge.com/</p><p>Prewitt Ridge's socials — https://twitter.com/prewittridge</p><p>Steve's socials — https://twitter.com/thesteve</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam </p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace </p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes </p><p>• About us • </p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 15,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world. Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. </p><p>Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing three media properties across multiple platforms: 1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern (https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/) 2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com) 3) Polaris, our weekly policy publication, hits inboxes Tuesday (https://polaris.payloadspace.com/) 4) Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday (https://parallax.payloadspace.com/)</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2023 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>mo@arkaeamedia.com (Arkaea Media (Payload | Ignition | Tectonic))</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Picture a world where you can complete your 6-month engineering project in just 6 weeks by removing typical bottlenecks in your workflows. That’s what cofounder and CEO of Prewitt Ridge Steve Massey believes his company can help both government and commercial stakeholders of the space industry achieve.</p><p>Enter Prewitt Ridge: Prewitt Ridge is a software company that helps engineers manage engineering requirements in complex projects. The company's software, Verve, captures and manages engineering requirements inside the tools where they originate and across complex datasets.</p><p>Said differently…Prewitt Ridge's software helps engineers to be more organized and efficient, which can lead to faster, cheaper and more reliable product development. </p><p>A sneak peek…</p><p>Steve held roles at Slingshot Aerospace and SpaceX before teaming up with fellow cofounder and CTO Zeke Brechtel to start Prewitt Ridge. Today, Mo and Steve discuss:</p><ul><li>Prewitt Ridge’s value-add to the space industry</li><li>NASA’s expertise in systems engineering</li><li>The future of automation in aerospace</li><li>Working on Hyperloop technology</li><li>And much more…</li></ul><p>This episode is brought to you by Epsilon3, software for complex engineering, testing, and operational procedures. Learn more at https://www.epsilon3.io/</p><p>• Chapters • </p><p>00:00 - Intro and Epsilon3 Ad
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</p><p>06:21 - What inspired you to build the company?</p><p>10:51 - Common mistakes for space founders
</p><p>12:45 - Automatic vs manual systems
</p><p>15:40 - Is systems engineering just an exercise in paperwork?
</p><p>19:29 - Quantifying losses from not having proper processes</p><p>21:47 - NASA's approach to systems engineering
</p><p>26:44 - What products are you building today?
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</p><p>36:14 - What is a digital thread?
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Today’s Pathfinder episode features AstroForge cofounder and CEO Matt Gialich. The CA-based startup is developing technology to mine asteroids for platinum group metals. The company plans to use an uncrewed spacecraft to extract and refine the metals directly on the asteroid before returning to Earth with a sellable metal.</p><p>Why platinum? The platinum group metals have unique physical and chemical properties that make them critical to everything from catalytic converters to electronics. According to Gialich, the US has a dwindling supply of platinum group ore reserves, and Russia and China control a significant supply of global stocks. But there’s hope in the heavens: a single one-kilometer-diameter M-type (primarily composed of metallic iron and nickel) asteroid could contain more platinum than has been mined in the history of humanity, Gialich said.</p><p>So far…AstroForge launched a refinery demo this spring and plans to launch a prospecting mission in October where they will physically go to an asteroid to map and monitor the surface. Future missions will include excavation and finally mining.</p><p>A sneak peek…Mo and Matt discuss:</p><ul><li>The history of landing on asteroids</li><li>The basics of asteroid mining</li><li>The economics of mining off-planet</li><li>Legal and regulatory considerations</li></ul><p>And much more… </p><p>This episode is brought to you by SpiderOak, a US-based software company that builds space cybersecurity products and solutions for civilian, military, and commercial space operations. Learn more at https://spideroak.com/ </p><p>• Chapters • </p><p>00:00 - Intro and SpiderOak ad</p><p>02:07 - The early days of AstroForge</p><p>02:51 - Why asteroid mining today?</p><p>06:58 - Cofounder backgrounds</p><p>08:14 - Asteroid mining 101</p><p>11:48 - Platinum group metals</p><p>13:10 - Historical asteroid missions
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      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2023 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Today’s Pathfinder episode features Phantom Space cofounder and CEO Jim Cantrell. The Tucson-based space transportation company is focused on the mass production of rockets. Jim began his career at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Lab and the French Space Agency (CNES), working on Mars exploration technologies and a joint French-Soviet Mars program​​. He was a founding member of SpaceX, serving as its first VP of business development. He later co-founded Moon Express, a company focused on commercial lunar robotic transportation​ and Vector Space, a micro-launch vehicle company​.</p><p>Phantom primer: Phantom's strategy focuses around a central idea: mass production of rockets. Instead of going all-in on vertical integration, Cantrell's choosing to leverage the expertise of outside specialists for key technology—for example, propulsion company Ursa Major is fueling Phantom's rocket engines. By providing some but not all the R&D, the company can operate with a substantially leaner core staff. </p><p>The thought is that this mass-produced, “Henry Ford”-like development and production approach will substantially lower costs and increase efficiency. Cantrell says that Phantom’s price tag to get to space will be roughly $100M, substantially lower than competitors. The company’s product roadmap includes:</p><ul><li>The Daytona, which is a two-stage rocket designed to deliver payloads up to 450 kgs to LEO, is​ expected to first launch in late 2024/early 2025.</li><li>Its larger sibling, Laguna, has a planned lift capacity of 1,200 kgs to LEO with the first launch expected in 2027. The Laguna will have both an expendable and reusable configuration for its first stage similar to SpaceX's Falcon 9.</li></ul><p>In addition to Phantom’s early days, Mo and Jim discuss: </p><ul><li>The infamous Elon and Russian ICBM story</li><li>Learnings from Vector</li><li>The evolution of venture capitalists and space</li><li>Pros/cons of vertical integration</li><li>Team construction</li></ul><p>And much more… </p><p>This episode is brought to you by SpiderOak, a US-based software company that builds space cybersecurity products and solutions for civilian, military, and commercial space operations. Learn more at https://spideroak.com/ </p><p>• Chapters • </p><p>00:00 - Intro and SpiderOak Ad
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</p><p>07:05 - Why did Elon reach out to you at the time?
</p><p>09:48 - What is Phantom Space?</p><p>15:32 - Relying on an external supply chain</p><p>17:38 - To vertically integrate, or not to vertically integrate?</p><p>21:17 - Development timelines</p><p>
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</p><p>35:40 - Vector: What went well and what were the key challengers?
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</p><p>49:55 - What company are you most excited about?</p><p>51:29 - Alternative methods to reach orbit</p><p>53:43 - Is it harder to build a new launch vehicle or a winning Formula 1 car?</p><p>• Show notes • </p><p>Phantom's website — https://www.phantomspace.com/</p><p>Phantom's socials — https://twitter.com/PhantomSpaceC</p><p>Jim's socials — https://twitter.com/jamesncantrell</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam </p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace </p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes </p><p>• About us • </p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 15,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world. Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. </p><p>Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing three media properties across multiple platforms: 1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern (https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/) 2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com) 3) Polaris, our weekly policy publication, hits inboxes Tuesday (https://polaris.payloadspace.com/) 4) Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday (https://parallax.payloadspace.com/)</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2023 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>mo@arkaeamedia.com (Arkaea Media (Payload | Ignition | Tectonic))</author>
      <link>https://pod.payloadspace.com/</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today’s Pathfinder episode features Phantom Space cofounder and CEO Jim Cantrell. The Tucson-based space transportation company is focused on the mass production of rockets. Jim began his career at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Lab and the French Space Agency (CNES), working on Mars exploration technologies and a joint French-Soviet Mars program​​. He was a founding member of SpaceX, serving as its first VP of business development. He later co-founded Moon Express, a company focused on commercial lunar robotic transportation​ and Vector Space, a micro-launch vehicle company​.</p><p>Phantom primer: Phantom's strategy focuses around a central idea: mass production of rockets. Instead of going all-in on vertical integration, Cantrell's choosing to leverage the expertise of outside specialists for key technology—for example, propulsion company Ursa Major is fueling Phantom's rocket engines. By providing some but not all the R&D, the company can operate with a substantially leaner core staff. </p><p>The thought is that this mass-produced, “Henry Ford”-like development and production approach will substantially lower costs and increase efficiency. Cantrell says that Phantom’s price tag to get to space will be roughly $100M, substantially lower than competitors. The company’s product roadmap includes:</p><ul><li>The Daytona, which is a two-stage rocket designed to deliver payloads up to 450 kgs to LEO, is​ expected to first launch in late 2024/early 2025.</li><li>Its larger sibling, Laguna, has a planned lift capacity of 1,200 kgs to LEO with the first launch expected in 2027. The Laguna will have both an expendable and reusable configuration for its first stage similar to SpaceX's Falcon 9.</li></ul><p>In addition to Phantom’s early days, Mo and Jim discuss: </p><ul><li>The infamous Elon and Russian ICBM story</li><li>Learnings from Vector</li><li>The evolution of venture capitalists and space</li><li>Pros/cons of vertical integration</li><li>Team construction</li></ul><p>And much more… </p><p>This episode is brought to you by SpiderOak, a US-based software company that builds space cybersecurity products and solutions for civilian, military, and commercial space operations. Learn more at https://spideroak.com/ </p><p>• Chapters • </p><p>00:00 - Intro and SpiderOak Ad
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</p><p>07:05 - Why did Elon reach out to you at the time?
</p><p>09:48 - What is Phantom Space?</p><p>15:32 - Relying on an external supply chain</p><p>17:38 - To vertically integrate, or not to vertically integrate?</p><p>21:17 - Development timelines</p><p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>While warfare used to mean dropping bombs and shooting bullets, modern conflict is increasingly seeing actors targeting an adversaries’ critical infrastructure with cyberattacks. </p><p>The number of cyberattacks on critical infrastructure perpetrated or sponsored by nation-states doubled from 20% to 40% between July 2021 and June 2022, according to <a href="https://query.prod.cms.rt.microsoft.com/cms/api/am/binary/RE5bUvv?culture=en-us&country=us">Microsoft</a>. The US is particularly vulnerable since the vast majority of critical infrastructure is under private ownership. This makes the implementation of safety standards challenging and complicates the government's task of monitoring and guarding against threats. </p><p>Enter: Galvanick.</p><p>Catch-up quick: The LA-based startup, which just announced a $10M <a href="https://payloadspace.com/galvanick-raises-10m-for-industrial-cybersecurity/">seed round</a>, is building cybersecurity solutions to protect industrial infrastructure. </p><p>Galvanick's first product is an industrial-based XDR platform. Think of it as a system that collects data from different industrial machines and locations to keep an eye out for any potential threats. This allows the operations and computer security teams to understand what’s normal behavior—and what isn’t—and to quickly see if something is out of whack. </p><p>First customer? The company’s initial target market is the aerospace and defense industry, where cyber threats are particularly acute due to national security interests.</p><p>A sneak peek…</p><p>We interview Josh Steinman, cofounder and CEO of Galvanick. Josh founded the company in 2021 after witnessing the extent of the issue as a former senior director for cyber at the National Security Council. We discuss:</p><ul><li>Galvanick’s origin story and vision</li><li>The importance of the National Security Council</li><li>Asymmetric attacks and the extent of the cyber problem</li><li>What separates successful defense startups</li><li>The top three threats to America</li></ul><p>And much more… </p><p>This episode is brought to you by SpiderOak, a US-based software company that builds space cybersecurity products and solutions for civilian, military, and commercial space operations. Learn more at https://spideroak.com/ </p><p>• Chapters • </p><p>00:00 - Intro and SpiderOak Ad</p><p>01:10 - Good morning, we are going to win</p><p>03:35 - Galvanick overview</p><p>05:56 - Josh's background and the Galvanick origin story</p><p>09:35 - Influencing the creation of the Defense Innovation Unit</p><p>11:28 - National Security Council Primer</p><p>14:25 - How did you land a role on the NSC?</p><p>16:29 - What is an asymmetric attack and how does cyber fit into that description?</p><p>22:47 - What are the critical  vulnerabilities that we face today?</p><p>27:20 - Galvanick's technology</p><p>29:53 - How are you thinking about scaling in the market and growing the business?</p><p>32:44 - Customer pushback on the product</p><p>36:55 - How is generative AI going to change cyberattacks?</p><p>39:01 - SpiderOak Ad break</p><p>39:49 - What separates successful defense startups from the rest?</p><p>42:33 - How would you digitize our infrastructure?</p><p>47:17 - Top threats to America today</p><p>50:28 - Is China ahead in critical technology developments?</p><p>52:50 - Perspective on US decline vs China rise</p><p>57:12 - The future of cybersecurity</p><p>01:00 - How to get in touch with Josh and Galvanick</p><p>• Show notes • </p><p>Galvanick's website — https://www.galvanick.com/</p><p>Galvanick's socials — https://twitter.com/GalvanickCo</p><p>Josh's socials — https://twitter.com/JoshuaSteinman</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam </p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace </p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes </p><p>• About us • </p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 15,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world. Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. </p><p>Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing three media properties across multiple platforms: 1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern (https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/) 2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com) 3) Polaris, our weekly policy publication, hits inboxes Tuesday (https://polaris.payloadspace.com/) 4) Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday (https://parallax.payloadspace.com/)</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2023 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>mo@arkaeamedia.com (Arkaea Media (Payload | Ignition | Tectonic))</author>
      <link>https://pod.payloadspace.com/</link>
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This makes the implementation of safety standards challenging and complicates the government's task of monitoring and guarding against threats. </p><p>Enter: Galvanick.</p><p>Catch-up quick: The LA-based startup, which just announced a $10M <a href="https://payloadspace.com/galvanick-raises-10m-for-industrial-cybersecurity/">seed round</a>, is building cybersecurity solutions to protect industrial infrastructure. </p><p>Galvanick's first product is an industrial-based XDR platform. Think of it as a system that collects data from different industrial machines and locations to keep an eye out for any potential threats. This allows the operations and computer security teams to understand what’s normal behavior—and what isn’t—and to quickly see if something is out of whack. </p><p>First customer? 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      <description><![CDATA[<p>VLEO is a term that you don’t hear everyday in the space industry. It refers to “Very Low Earth Orbit,” a region of space that’s roughly twice as close to Earth’s surface as the commonly-used LEO, or “Low Earth Orbit,” where most companies are building their satellite constellations. </p><p>But not Albedo. </p><p>The Austin, TX- and Denver, CO-based startup is changing the architecture of Earth Observation (EO) by operating satellites at an orbital regime in which no other commercial provider is successfully operating.</p><p>Today’s Pathfinder episode features Albedo cofounder and CEO Topher Haddad. Haddad spent the initial years of his career at Lockheed Martin, where he developed passive and active remote sensing systems before jumping into the famed startup accelerator Y Combinator to start Albedo.</p><p>Why VLEO? Albedo is pushing the boundaries of EO by offering aerial-quality imagery (optical and thermal to start) from space. In Dec. 2021, the company obtained the first commercial NOAA license to sell 10-cm satellite imagery—much higher-res than the 30-cm imagery that was allowed previously. Operating in VLEO enables 10-cm resolution at substantially lower cost than existing government satellites as long as you can solve the propulsion and positioning problem (more on that in the pod!).</p><p>Albedo is targeting early 2025 for its first satellite launch with a second launch later that year and several more in 2026. The initial constellation of six satellites is expected to achieve daily revisit, and the full constellation of 24 is intended to eventually reach five revisits per day.</p><p>A sneak peek…</p><p>Mo and Topher chat about the early days of Albedo, learnings from Lockheed, and building across Austin and Denver. In addition: </p><ul><li>VLEO: why, what, how?</li><li>A satellite resolution primer</li><li>Albedo product roadmap</li><li>Artificial intelligence in EO</li><li>Market for high-resolution imagery</li></ul><p>And much more… </p><p>This episode is brought to you by SpiderOak, a US-based software company that builds space cybersecurity products and solutions for civilian, military, and commercial space operations. Learn more at https://spideroak.com/ </p><p>• Chapters • </p><p>00:00 - Intro and SpiderOak Ad 
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</p><p>57:35 - Albedo's investors: Breakthrough Energy & Shield Capital</p><p>• Show notes • </p><p>Albedo's website — https://albedo.com/</p><p>Albedo's socials — https://twitter.com/Albedo</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam </p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace </p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes </p><p>• About us • </p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 15,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world. Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. </p><p>Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing three media properties across multiple platforms: 1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern (https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/) 2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com) 3) Polaris, our weekly policy publication, hits inboxes Tuesday (https://polaris.payloadspace.com/) 4) Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday (https://parallax.payloadspace.com/)</p>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VLEO is a term that you don’t hear everyday in the space industry. It refers to “Very Low Earth Orbit,” a region of space that’s roughly twice as close to Earth’s surface as the commonly-used LEO, or “Low Earth Orbit,” where most companies are building their satellite constellations. </p><p>But not Albedo. </p><p>The Austin, TX- and Denver, CO-based startup is changing the architecture of Earth Observation (EO) by operating satellites at an orbital regime in which no other commercial provider is successfully operating.</p><p>Today’s Pathfinder episode features Albedo cofounder and CEO Topher Haddad. Haddad spent the initial years of his career at Lockheed Martin, where he developed passive and active remote sensing systems before jumping into the famed startup accelerator Y Combinator to start Albedo.</p><p>Why VLEO? Albedo is pushing the boundaries of EO by offering aerial-quality imagery (optical and thermal to start) from space. In Dec. 2021, the company obtained the first commercial NOAA license to sell 10-cm satellite imagery—much higher-res than the 30-cm imagery that was allowed previously. Operating in VLEO enables 10-cm resolution at substantially lower cost than existing government satellites as long as you can solve the propulsion and positioning problem (more on that in the pod!).</p><p>Albedo is targeting early 2025 for its first satellite launch with a second launch later that year and several more in 2026. The initial constellation of six satellites is expected to achieve daily revisit, and the full constellation of 24 is intended to eventually reach five revisits per day.</p><p>A sneak peek…</p><p>Mo and Topher chat about the early days of Albedo, learnings from Lockheed, and building across Austin and Denver. In addition: </p><ul><li>VLEO: why, what, how?</li><li>A satellite resolution primer</li><li>Albedo product roadmap</li><li>Artificial intelligence in EO</li><li>Market for high-resolution imagery</li></ul><p>And much more… </p><p>This episode is brought to you by SpiderOak, a US-based software company that builds space cybersecurity products and solutions for civilian, military, and commercial space operations. Learn more at https://spideroak.com/ </p><p>• Chapters • </p><p>00:00 - Intro and SpiderOak Ad 
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</p><p>57:35 - Albedo's investors: Breakthrough Energy & Shield Capital</p><p>• Show notes • </p><p>Albedo's website — https://albedo.com/</p><p>Albedo's socials — https://twitter.com/Albedo</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam </p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace </p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes </p><p>• About us • </p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 15,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world. Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. </p><p>Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing three media properties across multiple platforms: 1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern (https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/) 2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com) 3) Polaris, our weekly policy publication, hits inboxes Tuesday (https://polaris.payloadspace.com/) 4) Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday (https://parallax.payloadspace.com/)</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>How do you get Blackrock to lead your $140M funding round? You’ll have to listen to Loft Orbital's CEO and cofounder, Pierre-Damien Vaujour, to find out.</p><p>The SF-based company provides a turnkey solution for launching, deploying, and operating small satellites, giving more players access to space. Loft’s business model could be most simplified as a fulfillment model for the space industry. The company buys satellite buses in bulk and integrates customer payloads via their universal hub interface. The company’s proprietary satellite management software simplifies the notoriously complex task of spacecraft operations. </p><p>The key value prop? Help customers get to space in months, not years.</p><p>Mo and Pierre-Damien have a wide-ranging conversation, including highlights such as:</p><ul><li>Loft’s business model vs. competitors </li><li>Space-as-a-service to space-infrastructure-as-a-service</li><li>Future innovations in the satellite industry</li><li>Toulouse, and why it’s the aerospace capital of Europe</li></ul><p>And much more… </p><p>This episode is brought to you by Epsilon3, software for complex engineering, testing, and operational procedures. Learn more at https://www.epsilon3.io/</p><p>• Chapters • </p><p>00:00 - Intro and Epsilon3 Ad</p><p>01:38 - How did you get started with Loft Orbital</p><p>05:51 - Industry expectations vs reality</p><p>08:05 - Technical traction</p><p>09:19 - Space-as-a-service vs Space infrastructure-as-a-service</p><p>13:23 - Current commercial offerings</p><p>15:49 - Managing the complexity of multiple payloads</p><p>18:55 - Bulk buying vs vertical integration</p><p>21:41 - How do you build partnerships while minimize supply chain risks?</p><p>24:38 - Commercial traction</p><p>30:18 - Largest opportunity for Loft: Commercial vs Government?</p><p>31:30 - Epsilon3 Ad Break</p><p>34:45 - Competitive landscape</p><p>38:12 - Where is the satellite market heading?</p><p>41:41 - Next big innovation in satellite technology?</p><p>45:31 - Navigating fundraising and capital needs</p><p>52:51 - Toulouse, the aerospace capital of Europe?</p><p>55:13 - What company are you most excited about in the space industry?</p><p>56:02 - Book/movie recommendation?</p><p>• Show notes • </p><p>Loft Orbital's website — https://www.loftorbital.com/</p><p>Loft Orbital's socials — https://twitter.com/LoftOrbital</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam </p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace </p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes </p><p>• About us • </p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 15,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world. Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. </p><p>Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing three media properties across multiple platforms: 1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern (https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/) 2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com) 3) Polaris, our weekly policy publication, hits inboxes Tuesday (https://polaris.payloadspace.com/) 4) Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday (https://parallax.payloadspace.com/)</p>
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      <author>mo@arkaeamedia.com (Arkaea Media (Payload | Ignition | Tectonic))</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you get Blackrock to lead your $140M funding round? You’ll have to listen to Loft Orbital's CEO and cofounder, Pierre-Damien Vaujour, to find out.</p><p>The SF-based company provides a turnkey solution for launching, deploying, and operating small satellites, giving more players access to space. Loft’s business model could be most simplified as a fulfillment model for the space industry. The company buys satellite buses in bulk and integrates customer payloads via their universal hub interface. The company’s proprietary satellite management software simplifies the notoriously complex task of spacecraft operations. </p><p>The key value prop? Help customers get to space in months, not years.</p><p>Mo and Pierre-Damien have a wide-ranging conversation, including highlights such as:</p><ul><li>Loft’s business model vs. competitors </li><li>Space-as-a-service to space-infrastructure-as-a-service</li><li>Future innovations in the satellite industry</li><li>Toulouse, and why it’s the aerospace capital of Europe</li></ul><p>And much more… </p><p>This episode is brought to you by Epsilon3, software for complex engineering, testing, and operational procedures. Learn more at https://www.epsilon3.io/</p><p>• Chapters • </p><p>00:00 - Intro and Epsilon3 Ad</p><p>01:38 - How did you get started with Loft Orbital</p><p>05:51 - Industry expectations vs reality</p><p>08:05 - Technical traction</p><p>09:19 - Space-as-a-service vs Space infrastructure-as-a-service</p><p>13:23 - Current commercial offerings</p><p>15:49 - Managing the complexity of multiple payloads</p><p>18:55 - Bulk buying vs vertical integration</p><p>21:41 - How do you build partnerships while minimize supply chain risks?</p><p>24:38 - Commercial traction</p><p>30:18 - Largest opportunity for Loft: Commercial vs Government?</p><p>31:30 - Epsilon3 Ad Break</p><p>34:45 - Competitive landscape</p><p>38:12 - Where is the satellite market heading?</p><p>41:41 - Next big innovation in satellite technology?</p><p>45:31 - Navigating fundraising and capital needs</p><p>52:51 - Toulouse, the aerospace capital of Europe?</p><p>55:13 - What company are you most excited about in the space industry?</p><p>56:02 - Book/movie recommendation?</p><p>• Show notes • </p><p>Loft Orbital's website — https://www.loftorbital.com/</p><p>Loft Orbital's socials — https://twitter.com/LoftOrbital</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam </p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace </p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes </p><p>• About us • </p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 15,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world. Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. </p><p>Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing three media properties across multiple platforms: 1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern (https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/) 2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com) 3) Polaris, our weekly policy publication, hits inboxes Tuesday (https://polaris.payloadspace.com/) 4) Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday (https://parallax.payloadspace.com/)</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Tom Mueller is best known for his instrumental role at SpaceX as propulsion CTO, but he’s now turned his sights to his new venture, Impulse Space. Founded in 2021, Impulse aims to provide reliable and economical in-space transportation services. The company services include GEO/GTO/LEO logistics, in-orbit servicing, spacecraft life extension, active debris removal, and situational awareness.</p><p>The company plans to operate within Earth’s orbit and beyond, including lunar and Mars missions, which Mueller believes will open the gateway to space resource transportation, asteroid mining, in-space manufacturing, and propellant depots.</p><p>Last summer, the company announced a partnership with Relativity to launch the first private mission to Mars and just last week Orbit Fab announced that it would use a vehicle developed by Impulse Space for an in-orbit refueling demonstration.</p><p>In addition to Impulse’s origin story, Mo and Tom discuss:</p><ul><li>Building propulsion systems</li><li>Initial target markets</li><li>Engineering thrusters vs engines</li><li>Mira’s first mission this October</li><li>Lessons learned (and memorable stories) from SpaceX</li></ul><p>And much more… </p><p>This episode is brought to you by SpiderOak, a US-based software company that builds space cybersecurity products and solutions for civilian, military, and commercial space operations. Learn more at https://spideroak.com/ </p><p>• Chapters • </p><p>00:00 - Intro and Ad spot
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</p><p>52:57 - Most memorable moment from your time at SpaceX
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      <pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2023 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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</p><p>01:41 - Why rockets and why propulsion?
</p><p>03:25 -Early work at TRW</p><p>07:43 - Introducing Impulse
</p><p>10:54 - The size of Impulse's market</p><p>12:59 - First product: Mira
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</p><p>26:38 - Relativity mission
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</p><p>31:03 - Building and recruiting a team
</p><p>33:22 - Spider Oak Ad break
</p><p>34:29 - Why is launch so hard?
</p><p>37:55 - How do you bounce back from failure?
</p><p>38:52 - Future of rocket propulsion
</p><p>40:42 - Starship and the future of engineering constraints</p><p>42:26 - What other companies excite you?
</p><p>43:32 - What's harder, designing a championship-winning F1 car or a new launch vehicle from scratch?
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</p><p>52:57 - Most memorable moment from your time at SpaceX
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Space travel is about to get a lot more accessible. At least, that’s what Space Perspective cofounders and co-CEOs Taber MacCallum and Jane Poynter are saying. The company’s aim is to provide the quintessential astronaut experience to as many people as possible, focusing not on the rocket ride or microgravity, but on the view of Earth from space.</p><p>In today’s Pathfinder podcast, Mo chats with both Taber and Jane from Space Perspective’s HQ near Cape Canaveral, FL. They discuss:</p><ul><li>Taber and Jane’s life’s work supporting crewed spacecraft</li><li>The origins of Space Perspective</li><li>The importance of seeing Earth from above</li><li>The advantages of balloon-based tourism</li><li>Space Perspective vs. competitors</li><li>The future of space tourism</li><li>And much more…</li></ul><p>And much more… </p><p>This episode is brought to you by SpiderOak, a US-based software company that builds space cybersecurity products and solutions for civilian, military, and commercial space operations. Learn more at https://spideroak.com/ </p><p>• Chapters • </p><p>00:00 - Intro and SpiderOak Ad </p><p>01:15 - Space Perspective overview</p><p>08:22 - Taber & Jane's background</p><p>16:53 - The conceptual beginnings of Space Perspective</p><p>21:05 - Safety systems</p><p>25:24 - SpiderOak Ad Break</p><p>26:30 - Pricing, target market, target customer</p><p>30:50 - First commercial flight?</p><p>32:02 - The feeling of weightlessness</p><p>33:20 - Handling anxious clients</p><p>36:02 - Launch logistics</p><p>39:40 - Advantages of launching from a ship</p><p>41:00- Regulatory considerations</p><p>43:10 - The long-term vision</p><p>44:30 - A pioneer in the space industry</p><p>48:15 - StratEx launch</p><p>54:45 - Who are you taking to space?</p><p>• Show notes • </p><p>Space Perspective's website — https://spaceperspective.com/</p><p>Space Perspective's socials — https://twitter.com/SpacePerspectiv</p><p>Dr. Robert Zubrin on "Why Mars?" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S6k2LBJhac</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam </p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace </p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes </p><p>• About us • </p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 15,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world. Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. </p><p>Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing three media properties across multiple platforms: 1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern (https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/) 2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com) 3) Polaris, our weekly policy publication, hits inboxes Tuesday (https://polaris.payloadspace.com/) 4) Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday (https://parallax.payloadspace.com/)</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2023 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>mo@arkaeamedia.com (Arkaea Media (Payload | Ignition | Tectonic))</author>
      <link>https://pod.payloadspace.com/</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>You need to be paying attention to the space industry. Why? Because Payload Cofounder Ari Lewis has finally agreed to be a guest on Pathfinder. </p><p>You’ve probably seen Ari in his natural habitat: flying around the country to events and conferences, sporting his trademark Payload baseball cap, helping companies understand why they need to partner with Payload. But today, the lifeblood of Payload’s sales engine sits down with fellow cofounder and Pathfinder host Mo Islam. </p><p>Mo and Ari discuss the Payload origin story, scaling a media organization, and the future vision of the business. </p><p>They also talk about: </p><ul><li>Challenges faced by the space industry today </li><li>Parallels between the space and crypto industry </li><li>How to build a strong media brand </li><li>The Payload 10-Year Vision</li></ul><p>And much more…</p><p>Our episode is brought to you by SpiderOak, a US-based software company that builds space cybersecurity products and solutions for civilian, military, and commercial space operations. Learn more at https://spideroak.com/ </p><p><strong>• Chapters •</strong></p><p>00:00 - Introduction </p><p>00:35 - SpiderOak Ad </p><p>01:13 - Introduction to Ari </p><p>01:37 - What finally made you decide to come on the show? </p><p>02:16 - Payload origin story </p><p>07:01 - How Ari got to Payload </p><p>09:02 - Crypto to space? </p><p>13:02 - What made Payload unique and allowed it to grow? </p><p>18:25 - How does Payload make money? </p><p>21:53 - Space industry challenges and how Payload can help </p><p>31:02 - How you view Twitter as a tool for the space industry </p><p>35:57 - SpiderOak Ad Break </p><p>36:45 - Will Payload expand beyond the space industry? </p><p>39:00 - Fundamentals of building a strong brand </p><p>45:53 - How Ari stays focused and motivated </p><p>47:37 - Hobbies outside of work </p><p>48:29 - Secret energy source? </p><p>50:23 - How does someone working at Payload ask for a raise? </p><p>51:39 - Favorite part about Payload or memory </p><p>54:40 - The Payload 10 Year Vision</p><p><strong>• Show notes •</strong></p><p>Ari's socials — https://twitter.com/amlewis4</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam </p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace </p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace </p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes </p><p><strong>• About us •</strong></p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 15,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. </p><p>Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world. Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. </p><p>Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing three media properties across multiple platforms: </p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern (https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/) </p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com) </p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy publication, hits inboxes Tuesday (https://polaris.payloadspace.com/) </p><p>4) Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday (https://parallax.payloadspace.com/)</p>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You need to be paying attention to the space industry. Why? Because Payload Cofounder Ari Lewis has finally agreed to be a guest on Pathfinder. </p><p>You’ve probably seen Ari in his natural habitat: flying around the country to events and conferences, sporting his trademark Payload baseball cap, helping companies understand why they need to partner with Payload. But today, the lifeblood of Payload’s sales engine sits down with fellow cofounder and Pathfinder host Mo Islam. </p><p>Mo and Ari discuss the Payload origin story, scaling a media organization, and the future vision of the business. </p><p>They also talk about: </p><ul><li>Challenges faced by the space industry today </li><li>Parallels between the space and crypto industry </li><li>How to build a strong media brand </li><li>The Payload 10-Year Vision</li></ul><p>And much more…</p><p>Our episode is brought to you by SpiderOak, a US-based software company that builds space cybersecurity products and solutions for civilian, military, and commercial space operations. Learn more at https://spideroak.com/ </p><p><strong>• Chapters •</strong></p><p>00:00 - Introduction </p><p>00:35 - SpiderOak Ad </p><p>01:13 - Introduction to Ari </p><p>01:37 - What finally made you decide to come on the show? </p><p>02:16 - Payload origin story </p><p>07:01 - How Ari got to Payload </p><p>09:02 - Crypto to space? </p><p>13:02 - What made Payload unique and allowed it to grow? </p><p>18:25 - How does Payload make money? </p><p>21:53 - Space industry challenges and how Payload can help </p><p>31:02 - How you view Twitter as a tool for the space industry </p><p>35:57 - SpiderOak Ad Break </p><p>36:45 - Will Payload expand beyond the space industry? </p><p>39:00 - Fundamentals of building a strong brand </p><p>45:53 - How Ari stays focused and motivated </p><p>47:37 - Hobbies outside of work </p><p>48:29 - Secret energy source? </p><p>50:23 - How does someone working at Payload ask for a raise? </p><p>51:39 - Favorite part about Payload or memory </p><p>54:40 - The Payload 10 Year Vision</p><p><strong>• Show notes •</strong></p><p>Ari's socials — https://twitter.com/amlewis4</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam </p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace </p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace </p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes </p><p><strong>• About us •</strong></p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 15,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. </p><p>Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world. Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. </p><p>Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing three media properties across multiple platforms: </p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern (https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/) </p><p>2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com) </p><p>3) Polaris, our weekly policy publication, hits inboxes Tuesday (https://polaris.payloadspace.com/) </p><p>4) Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday (https://parallax.payloadspace.com/)</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Today, Pathfinder unveils an industry exclusive. An influential trio – Major General (Ret.) Kim Crider, Eddie Papczun, and Mike Dickey – veterans of A&D, have come together to launch Elara Nova, a consulting firm meticulously crafted to cater to the ever-expanding space industry. With illustrious careers under their belts, these three have held distinguished positions in the Air Force and Space Force (Kim was the Chief Technology Innovation Officer and Mike was Chief Architect) and later ventured into space and defense consulting.</p><p>Recognizing a critical void in the market not being met by major consulting organizations, Crider, Papczun, and Dickey have forged a comprehensive and cohesive consulting powerhouse. Their vision: bolster the space industry, fortify national security, and aid companies in cultivating international alliances.</p><p>Kim and Eddie join us to discuss:</p><ul><li>The origins of Elara Nova</li><li>Why a space-focused consultancy?</li><li>Range of services and target clients</li><li>Importance of data for a company’s space strategy</li><li>Navigating private vs government funding</li><li>“A pacing threat in China”</li><li>And much more…</li></ul><p>And much more…</p><p>Our episode is brought to you by SpiderOak, a US-based software company that builds space cybersecurity products and solutions for civilian, military, and commercial space operations. Learn more at https://spideroak.com/ </p><p><strong>• Chapters •</strong></p><p>00:00 Introduction and SpiderOak Ad</p><p>01:32 Introducing Kim & Eddie</p><p>01:50 The start of a new business venture</p><p>05:32 Origins of Elara Nova</p><p>06:20 The Avengers of the Space Industry</p><p>11:19 Why Elara Nova and why now?</p><p>22:42 Kim's background as Chief Technology Innovation Officer of the USSF</p><p>27:02 How important is data to a company's space strategy?</p><p>35:20 SpiderOak Ad Break</p><p>36:08 Focusing on government vs commercial customers</p><p>40:10 How should startups navigate funding and government capital?</p><p>45:10 DoD vs NASA space budget</p><p>48:50 US lead vs China</p><p>53:54 NASA prediction</p><p>54:55 Elon prediction</p><p>55:57 The first to the Moon</p><p>59:10 How to get in touch with Elara Nova</p><p><strong>• Show notes •</strong></p><p>Elara Nova — https://elaranova.com/</p><p>Kim's Email: kim@elaranova.com</p><p>Eddie's Email: eddie@elaranova.com</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam </p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace </p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace </p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes </p><p><strong>• About us •</strong></p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 15,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. </p><p>Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world. Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. </p><p>Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing three media properties across multiple platforms: 1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern (https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/) 2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com) 3) Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday (https://parallax.payloadspace.com/)</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 2 May 2023 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2023 00:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Today, the Pathfinder podcast brings you a conversation with Kirk Konert, a partner at AE Industrial Partners (AEI) focusing primarily on space and defense. Kirk joined AEI in 2014 just as the firm was institutionalizing and scaling its investment offering. Before AEI, Kirk worked at Sun Capital Partners, a private equity firm specializing in leveraged buyouts, and at Wells Fargo’s Industrials Group.</p><p>AE Industrial Partners is a FL-based PE firm that focuses on aerospace, defense and government services. It launched its first fund in 2014 and has since grown to over $5.5B of assets under management (AUM).</p><p>Kirk joins us on the show today to discuss:</p><ul><li>The history of AEI and the evolution of its strategy</li><li>Why private equity is a compelling tool in this market</li><li>What AEI looks for in an investment</li><li>Portfolio company synergies</li><li>Fundraising predictions for the industry</li><li>And much more…</li></ul><p>Today’s episode is brought to you by SpiderOak, a US-based software company that builds space cybersecurity products and solutions for civilian, military, and commercial space operations. Learn more at https://spideroak.com/ </p><p><strong>• Chapters •</strong></p><p>00:00 An introduction to Kirk and private equity</p><p>03:22 History of AE and its evolution/strategy</p><p>05:47 Kirk's career arc through joining AE</p><p>09:41 AE's different investment strategies and how they interrelate</p><p>13:20 Categorizing the space industry as an investment</p><p>15:52 What do you look for in an investment?</p><p>26:13 What drives success and failure of management teams</p><p>29:56 SpiderOak Ad Break</p><p>30:47 Fundraising prediction for the aerospace industry</p><p>34:22 How does a founder with 12 months of runway navigate the market?</p><p>35:59 Predicting when the market for IPOs will recover</p><p>41:52 Geopolitical tailwinds for space companies</p><p>45:16 Advice for a new investor looking to generate the most alpha</p><p>47:38 What drive's AE's success?</p><p>49:48 Starship prediction?</p><p><strong>• Show notes •</strong></p><p>AE Industrial Partners - https://www.aeroequity.com/</p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam </p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace </p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace </p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes </p><p><strong>• About us •</strong></p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 15,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. </p><p>Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world. Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. </p><p>Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing three media properties across multiple platforms: 1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern (https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/) 2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com) 3) Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday (https://parallax.payloadspace.com/)</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2023 00:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Today, the Pathfinder podcast brings on its first sibling/cofounder duo. Before founding K2, CEO Karan spent a decade at Boston Consulting Group and helped lead Text IQ, an artificial intelligence company, through to a nine-figure exit. CTO Neel spent 6 years at SpaceX developing avionics systems for the Dragon spacecraft and then went on to become a senior electrical systems engineer at electric aircraft company Kittyhawk. </p><p>Mo, Neel and Karan discuss K2's origin story, optimizing for mass-scale, a post-Starship world, and much more... </p><p>Today’s episode is brought to you by SpiderOak Mission Systems, a US-based software company that builds space cybersecurity products and solutions for civilian, military, and commercial space operations. Learn more at https://spideroak.com/ </p><p><strong>• Chapters •</strong> </p><p>00:00 Intro </p><p>00:30 SpiderOak Ad </p><p>01:15 K2 Space overview </p><p>05:00 The problem K2 is looking to solve </p><p>06:34 A mass constraint vs mass abundant world </p><p>10:56 Other manufacturers optimizing for mass scale? </p><p>12:48 How the cost of JWST skyrocketed because of mass constraints </p><p>18:12 How is K2 going to drop costs? </p><p>22:04 Learnings from SpaceX </p><p>23:44 Sizing the demand-side of large-scale buses </p><p>26:03 SpiderOak Ad </p><p>26:51 Defense, commercial, and scientific use-cases </p><p>30:22 Customer traction </p><p>32:15 The future of large-scale buses in LEO </p><p>34:00 The K2 advisory board & team </p><p>38:45 Predicting the success of the first Starship launch </p><p>46:50 Starship launch costs </p><p>48:30 Where does the K2 name come from? </p><p>49:37 Favorite sci-fi book or movie? </p><p>51:55 Another space startup that really excites you </p><p>53:15 When do you think we'll land on Mars? </p><p><strong>• Show notes •</strong> </p><p>K2 Space - https://www.k2space.com/ </p><p>Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam </p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace </p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace </p><p>Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes </p><p><strong>• About us •</strong> </p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 15,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. </p><p>Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world. Payload began as a weekly email sent to a few friends and coworkers. </p><p>Today, we’re a team distributed across four time zones and two continents, publishing three media properties across multiple platforms: 1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern (https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/) 2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com) 3) Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday (https://parallax.payloadspace.com/)</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2023 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Ian Cinnamon is the CEO and Co-founder of Apex Space, a startup manufacturing satellite buses in the 100-kilogram class that can support ~100 kgs of payload. It aims to sell Aries, its first product, into the commercial space market and support EO and communications missions. Apex says Aries will be available as an off-the-shelf platform that can be configured with specific subsystems to support certain customer needs.</p><p>Ian previously was an Investor and Entrepreneur in Residence at Village Global. Prior to Village, Ian founded Synapse Technology, an AI security startup that exited to Palantir. Max Benassi, Apex’s other cofounder, formerly built vehicles at SpaceX and served as Astra’s director of engineering</p><p>Today’s episode is brought to you by <a href="https://spideroak.com/" target="_blank">SpiderOak Mission Systems</a>, a US-based software company that builds space cybersecurity products and solutions for civilian, military, and commercial space operations. </p><h2>• A sneak peek •</h2><p>Ian and Mo talk about Apex’s origin story, the complexities of satellite bus manufacturing, and the size of Apex’s target market. They also discuss:</p><ul><li>The long-awaited history behind the Cinnamon family name</li><li>Why the Apex team is best suited to tackle the satellite bus market</li><li>How to successfully work with commercial vs. government customers</li><li>The importance of the SpaceX Transporter-10 mission</li><li>The geopolitical tailwinds supporting the space industry</li><li>And much more…</li></ul><h2>• Chapters •</h2><ul><li>00:00:00 Intro + SpiderOak Ad </li><li>01:11:00 The Origin of the Cinnamons </li><li>03:31:06 Introduction to Apex </li><li>07:57:11 Difficulties of in-house bus development </li><li>09:52:02 Apex vs. Terran Orbital vs. York Space </li><li>13:19:19 Working with the government customer </li><li>18:08:16 Quantifying the satellite bus market </li><li>21:47:09 Refueling in LEO, is there a market? </li><li>25:31:11 Capital flows in launch vs bus manufacturing </li><li>28:32:04 Difficulties of bus manufacturing </li><li>30:38:01 SpiderOak Ad </li><li>31:17:03 SpaceX Transporter 10 Mission </li><li>32:21:16 The Apex Team </li><li>38:38:02 Ian’s background as an investor and operator </li><li>43:18:06 Geopolitics as a tailwind </li><li>46:23:09 Rapid Fire! (Mentors/figures, startups Ian is excited about, how to spend free time) </li><li>49:43:14 Outro</li></ul><h2>• Show notes •</h2><p>Apex - <a href="https://www.apexspace.com/">https://www.apexspace.com/</a><br />Mo's socials — <a href="https://twitter.com/itsmoislam">https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</a><br />Payload’s socials — <a href="https://twitter.com/payloadspace">https://twitter.com/payloadspace</a> / <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace">https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</a><br />Pathfinder archive — Watch: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL%5C_uY3GaNf67hP-i6TRWF2n06xMv1kdkZ6">https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL\_uY3GaNf67hP-i6TRWF2n06xMv1kdkZ6</a><br />Pathfinder archive — Listen: <a href="https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes">https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</a></p><h2>• About us •</h2><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 15,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world. </p><p>We publish three properties:</p><ol><li>Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern (<a href="https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/">https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/</a>)</li><li>Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</li><li>Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday (<a href="https://parallax.payloadspace.com/">https://parallax.payloadspace.com/</a>)</li></ol><p>Find out more about us at <a href="http://payloadspace.com/">http://payloadspace.com/</a></p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 4 Apr 2023 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian Cinnamon is the CEO and Co-founder of Apex Space, a startup manufacturing satellite buses in the 100-kilogram class that can support ~100 kgs of payload. It aims to sell Aries, its first product, into the commercial space market and support EO and communications missions. Apex says Aries will be available as an off-the-shelf platform that can be configured with specific subsystems to support certain customer needs.</p><p>Ian previously was an Investor and Entrepreneur in Residence at Village Global. Prior to Village, Ian founded Synapse Technology, an AI security startup that exited to Palantir. Max Benassi, Apex’s other cofounder, formerly built vehicles at SpaceX and served as Astra’s director of engineering</p><p>Today’s episode is brought to you by <a href="https://spideroak.com/" target="_blank">SpiderOak Mission Systems</a>, a US-based software company that builds space cybersecurity products and solutions for civilian, military, and commercial space operations. </p><h2>• A sneak peek •</h2><p>Ian and Mo talk about Apex’s origin story, the complexities of satellite bus manufacturing, and the size of Apex’s target market. They also discuss:</p><ul><li>The long-awaited history behind the Cinnamon family name</li><li>Why the Apex team is best suited to tackle the satellite bus market</li><li>How to successfully work with commercial vs. government customers</li><li>The importance of the SpaceX Transporter-10 mission</li><li>The geopolitical tailwinds supporting the space industry</li><li>And much more…</li></ul><h2>• Chapters •</h2><ul><li>00:00:00 Intro + SpiderOak Ad </li><li>01:11:00 The Origin of the Cinnamons </li><li>03:31:06 Introduction to Apex </li><li>07:57:11 Difficulties of in-house bus development </li><li>09:52:02 Apex vs. Terran Orbital vs. York Space </li><li>13:19:19 Working with the government customer </li><li>18:08:16 Quantifying the satellite bus market </li><li>21:47:09 Refueling in LEO, is there a market? </li><li>25:31:11 Capital flows in launch vs bus manufacturing </li><li>28:32:04 Difficulties of bus manufacturing </li><li>30:38:01 SpiderOak Ad </li><li>31:17:03 SpaceX Transporter 10 Mission </li><li>32:21:16 The Apex Team </li><li>38:38:02 Ian’s background as an investor and operator </li><li>43:18:06 Geopolitics as a tailwind </li><li>46:23:09 Rapid Fire! (Mentors/figures, startups Ian is excited about, how to spend free time) </li><li>49:43:14 Outro</li></ul><h2>• Show notes •</h2><p>Apex - <a href="https://www.apexspace.com/">https://www.apexspace.com/</a><br />Mo's socials — <a href="https://twitter.com/itsmoislam">https://twitter.com/itsmoislam</a><br />Payload’s socials — <a href="https://twitter.com/payloadspace">https://twitter.com/payloadspace</a> / <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace">https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</a><br />Pathfinder archive — Watch: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL%5C_uY3GaNf67hP-i6TRWF2n06xMv1kdkZ6">https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL\_uY3GaNf67hP-i6TRWF2n06xMv1kdkZ6</a><br />Pathfinder archive — Listen: <a href="https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes">https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</a></p><h2>• About us •</h2><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 15,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world. </p><p>We publish three properties:</p><ol><li>Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern (<a href="https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/">https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/</a>)</li><li>Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com)</li><li>Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday (<a href="https://parallax.payloadspace.com/">https://parallax.payloadspace.com/</a>)</li></ol><p>Find out more about us at <a href="http://payloadspace.com/">http://payloadspace.com/</a></p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Last Friday, Payload moderated the “Beyond LEO” panel at the MIT Sloan New Space Age Conference in Cambridge. Joining us were: Will Hovik, engineering lead @ Honeybee Robotics; Kevin Duda, senior space systems manager @ Draper Laboratory; Forrest Meyen, cofounder and CSO of Lunar Outpost; and Blair DeWitt, the founder and CEO of Lunar Station.</p><p>Today's Pathfinder is brought to you by Kepler Communications, a company bringing the internet to space. Find out more at <a href="https://kepler.space/">https://kepler.space/</a></p><h2>• A sneak peek •</h2><p>This discussion couldn’t have come at a better time. On Monday, ispace said its HAKUTO-R Mission 1 lander has entered orbit around the moon. And more “ships,” i.e., landers and rovers, are set to depart for the Moon in the coming months. Our Beyond LEO discussion centered around what comes next on, near, and around the Moon: robotic explorers, habitation modules, crewed missions, energy, lunar infrastructure, and in-situ resource utilization.</p><p>What follows are some takeaways from the panel.</p><p><strong>$$$:</strong> Funding models changed drastically between Apollo and Artemis, and VCs can often miscalculate risk with lunar ventures. Duda estimated that NASA is paying an average of ~$1M per kilogram of payloads delivered to the lunar surface.</p><p><strong>The new approach:</strong> Embrace failure, iterate rapidly, and buy down risk by sending multiple ships.</p><p><strong>CLPS:</strong> The Commercial Lunar Payload Services (CLPS) program is an on-ramp for NASA to support commercial players without taking over the mission. In theory this support could spur more innovation and commercial growth.</p><p><strong>NASA:</strong> The agency is undergoing an organizational change, as it shifts from being a fully integrated operator to a customer.</p><p><strong>Humans and machines:</strong> It’s not either-or. Striking a balance between automation and human presence is key as we return to the Moon, with robots carrying out preliminary groundwork and humans making high-level decisions and performing experiments on the surface.</p><p><strong>Beyond LEO and lunar:</strong> Mars remains the ultimate goal of space exploration, with the Moon serving as a stepping stone to deeper space missions.</p><p>While our sights were set beyond LEO, the last decade in low Earth orbit offers lessons, both good and bad, for cislunar aspirants. LEO applications, such as satcom services or environmental monitoring, have thrived due to their direct impact on everyday life. NASA and cislunar players, it follows, should go to extra lengths to make the Moon relevant to the general public and explain how lunar exploration will benefit us back on Earth. “We don't really know what the lunar towns are gonna find,” DeWitt said, “but [they’ll] find something and it's gonna participate in helping us here on Earth."</p><h2>• Chapters •</h2><p>0:00 Intro & Kepler Ad <br />2:11 Panel Intro <br />7:36 Fundraising, capital formation, and partnerships <br />12:44 How important that those first ships are successful? <br />17:18 Role of NASA as a partner <br />22:01 What are some pivotal technologies that are going to be used on the lunar surface? <br />27:30 Automation vs crew exploration<br />32:15 What are the priorities for future Artemis crews? <br />35:09 Positive takeaways from LEO <br />37:24 Kepler Ad break <br />38:12 Q&A</p><h2>• Show notes •</h2><p>MIT New Space Age — http://newspaceage.org/ <br />Honeybee — https://www.honeybeerobotics.com/ <br />Draper — https://www.draper.com/ <br />Lunar Outpost — https://lunaroutpost.com/ <br />Lunar Station — https://lunarstation.space/ <br />CLPS — https://payloadspace.com/whos-who-lunar-landers-and-rovers/ <br />Ryan's socials — https://twitter.com/Ryandoofy / https://www.linkedin.com/in/rfduffy/ <br />Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace <br />Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_uY3GaNf67hP-i6TRWF2n06xMv1kdkZ6<br />Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><h2>• About us •</h2><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 15,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world. </p><p>We publish three properties:<br />1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern (https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/) <br />2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com) <br />3) Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday (https://parallax.payloadspace.com/)</p><p>Find out more about us at http://payloadspace.com/</p>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2023 07:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>mo@arkaeamedia.com (Arkaea Media (Payload | Ignition | Tectonic))</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last Friday, Payload moderated the “Beyond LEO” panel at the MIT Sloan New Space Age Conference in Cambridge. Joining us were: Will Hovik, engineering lead @ Honeybee Robotics; Kevin Duda, senior space systems manager @ Draper Laboratory; Forrest Meyen, cofounder and CSO of Lunar Outpost; and Blair DeWitt, the founder and CEO of Lunar Station.</p><p>Today's Pathfinder is brought to you by Kepler Communications, a company bringing the internet to space. Find out more at <a href="https://kepler.space/">https://kepler.space/</a></p><h2>• A sneak peek •</h2><p>This discussion couldn’t have come at a better time. On Monday, ispace said its HAKUTO-R Mission 1 lander has entered orbit around the moon. And more “ships,” i.e., landers and rovers, are set to depart for the Moon in the coming months. Our Beyond LEO discussion centered around what comes next on, near, and around the Moon: robotic explorers, habitation modules, crewed missions, energy, lunar infrastructure, and in-situ resource utilization.</p><p>What follows are some takeaways from the panel.</p><p><strong>$$$:</strong> Funding models changed drastically between Apollo and Artemis, and VCs can often miscalculate risk with lunar ventures. Duda estimated that NASA is paying an average of ~$1M per kilogram of payloads delivered to the lunar surface.</p><p><strong>The new approach:</strong> Embrace failure, iterate rapidly, and buy down risk by sending multiple ships.</p><p><strong>CLPS:</strong> The Commercial Lunar Payload Services (CLPS) program is an on-ramp for NASA to support commercial players without taking over the mission. In theory this support could spur more innovation and commercial growth.</p><p><strong>NASA:</strong> The agency is undergoing an organizational change, as it shifts from being a fully integrated operator to a customer.</p><p><strong>Humans and machines:</strong> It’s not either-or. Striking a balance between automation and human presence is key as we return to the Moon, with robots carrying out preliminary groundwork and humans making high-level decisions and performing experiments on the surface.</p><p><strong>Beyond LEO and lunar:</strong> Mars remains the ultimate goal of space exploration, with the Moon serving as a stepping stone to deeper space missions.</p><p>While our sights were set beyond LEO, the last decade in low Earth orbit offers lessons, both good and bad, for cislunar aspirants. LEO applications, such as satcom services or environmental monitoring, have thrived due to their direct impact on everyday life. NASA and cislunar players, it follows, should go to extra lengths to make the Moon relevant to the general public and explain how lunar exploration will benefit us back on Earth. “We don't really know what the lunar towns are gonna find,” DeWitt said, “but [they’ll] find something and it's gonna participate in helping us here on Earth."</p><h2>• Chapters •</h2><p>0:00 Intro & Kepler Ad <br />2:11 Panel Intro <br />7:36 Fundraising, capital formation, and partnerships <br />12:44 How important that those first ships are successful? <br />17:18 Role of NASA as a partner <br />22:01 What are some pivotal technologies that are going to be used on the lunar surface? <br />27:30 Automation vs crew exploration<br />32:15 What are the priorities for future Artemis crews? <br />35:09 Positive takeaways from LEO <br />37:24 Kepler Ad break <br />38:12 Q&A</p><h2>• Show notes •</h2><p>MIT New Space Age — http://newspaceage.org/ <br />Honeybee — https://www.honeybeerobotics.com/ <br />Draper — https://www.draper.com/ <br />Lunar Outpost — https://lunaroutpost.com/ <br />Lunar Station — https://lunarstation.space/ <br />CLPS — https://payloadspace.com/whos-who-lunar-landers-and-rovers/ <br />Ryan's socials — https://twitter.com/Ryandoofy / https://www.linkedin.com/in/rfduffy/ <br />Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace <br />Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_uY3GaNf67hP-i6TRWF2n06xMv1kdkZ6<br />Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p><h2>• About us •</h2><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 15,000+ commercial, civil, and military space leaders. Payload is read by decision-makers at every leading new space company, along with c-suite leaders at all of the aerospace & defense primes. We’re also read on Capitol Hill, in the Pentagon, and at space agencies around the world. </p><p>We publish three properties:<br />1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, sends M-F @ 9am Eastern (https://newsletter.payloadspace.com/) <br />2) Pathfinder publishes weekly on Tuesday mornings (pod.payloadspace.com) <br />3) Parallax, our weekly space science briefing, hits inboxes Thursday (https://parallax.payloadspace.com/)</p><p>Find out more about us at http://payloadspace.com/</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Today, we’re bringing you a live podcast from South by Southwest that was recorded Tuesday at the SkyFi Summit. </p><p>Pathfinder #0039 is brought to you by Kepler Communications, a company bringing the internet to space—<a href="https://kepler.space/">find out more</a> at <a href="http://www.kepler.space">www.kepler.space</a></p><p>Bear in mind that four guests at once is a new format for us, but the convo that follows is funny, fast-moving, and definitely worth your while. On-stage and speaking alongside Ryan were:  </p><ul><li>Luke Fischer, CEO of SkyFi,</li><li>Gabe Dominocielo, cofounder and president of Umbra,</li><li>Katie Betts, head of BD at Albedo,</li><li>Will Edwards, CEO of Firehawk Aerospace</li></ul><p><strong>First, some news:</strong> This week, SkyFi said it has officially onboarded Umbra and Satellogic as imagery providers on its platform.</p><h2>A sneak peek</h2><p>We chatted all things Earth observation: pain points, market potential, SAR, the sales process, regulation, analytics, and more. Ryan asked each exec whether the "smartest people in the room" cast aside their business idea as "impossible," and what proving them wrong looks like.  </p><ul><li>Gabe opened up for the first time about Umbra’s bootstrapped origins and harped on the end-all, be-all in EO: unit economics.</li><li>Luke highlighted SkyFi’s recent momentum with both imagery providers and consumers/end users of its platform, and spoke about the primacy of UX (user experience) for his company.</li><li>Will brought 3D-printed rocket fuel as a prop, showed the audience Firehawk’s recent hot-fire test; and provided a state-of-play on rocket propulsion in the US.</li><li>Katie shared more color on Albedo’s backstory, along with its go-to-market plan, and delivered the quote of the day: "We will be able to detect adult pigs from space, but not baby pigs.”</li></ul><h2>Chapters</h2><p>00:00:00—Intro and Kepler Ad    </p><p>00:02:07—Live panel begins     </p><p>00:03:22—Will, his prop, and Firehawk's hot fire    </p><p>00:04:40—Albedo</p><p>00:05:55—Umbra</p><p>00:07:13—SkyFi </p><p>00:08:39—The status quo in EO</p><p>00:17:30—The smartest people in the room say it's impossible...chips on shoulders and proving the haters wrong    </p><p>00:28:15—A word from Kepler </p><p>00:29:05—How do you decide who to partner with?  </p><p>00:39:04—Predicting future products and capabilities    </p><p>00:46:53—Q from social media: Could you product have found Malaysia Airlines Flight 370?    </p><p>00:48:44—Audience Q: What are you doing around supplier diversity programs?    </p><p>00:50:43—When will we get satellite imagery that's high-res and granular enough to see Bill Perkins wakesurfing on Lake Travis?</p><p>00:52:34—Close of show </p><h2>• Show notes •</h2><p>Firehawk hot-fire: https://twitter.com/FirehawkAero/status/1630999186282872843?s=20</p><p>SkyFi partnership with Umbra: https://twitter.com/SkyfiApp/status/1635692914821955584?s=20</p><p>...and Satellogic: https://www.skyfi.com/blog/skyfi-announces-integration-with-satellogic-to-expand-earth-observation#main</p><p>SkyFi: https://www.skyfi.com/</p><p>Umbra: https://umbra.space/</p><p>Albedo: https://albedo.com/</p><p>FIrehawk: https://firehawkaerospace.com/</p><p>Payload: http://payloadspace.com/</p>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today, we’re bringing you a live podcast from South by Southwest that was recorded Tuesday at the SkyFi Summit. </p><p>Pathfinder #0039 is brought to you by Kepler Communications, a company bringing the internet to space—<a href="https://kepler.space/">find out more</a> at <a href="http://www.kepler.space">www.kepler.space</a></p><p>Bear in mind that four guests at once is a new format for us, but the convo that follows is funny, fast-moving, and definitely worth your while. On-stage and speaking alongside Ryan were:  </p><ul><li>Luke Fischer, CEO of SkyFi,</li><li>Gabe Dominocielo, cofounder and president of Umbra,</li><li>Katie Betts, head of BD at Albedo,</li><li>Will Edwards, CEO of Firehawk Aerospace</li></ul><p><strong>First, some news:</strong> This week, SkyFi said it has officially onboarded Umbra and Satellogic as imagery providers on its platform.</p><h2>A sneak peek</h2><p>We chatted all things Earth observation: pain points, market potential, SAR, the sales process, regulation, analytics, and more. Ryan asked each exec whether the "smartest people in the room" cast aside their business idea as "impossible," and what proving them wrong looks like.  </p><ul><li>Gabe opened up for the first time about Umbra’s bootstrapped origins and harped on the end-all, be-all in EO: unit economics.</li><li>Luke highlighted SkyFi’s recent momentum with both imagery providers and consumers/end users of its platform, and spoke about the primacy of UX (user experience) for his company.</li><li>Will brought 3D-printed rocket fuel as a prop, showed the audience Firehawk’s recent hot-fire test; and provided a state-of-play on rocket propulsion in the US.</li><li>Katie shared more color on Albedo’s backstory, along with its go-to-market plan, and delivered the quote of the day: "We will be able to detect adult pigs from space, but not baby pigs.”</li></ul><h2>Chapters</h2><p>00:00:00—Intro and Kepler Ad    </p><p>00:02:07—Live panel begins     </p><p>00:03:22—Will, his prop, and Firehawk's hot fire    </p><p>00:04:40—Albedo</p><p>00:05:55—Umbra</p><p>00:07:13—SkyFi </p><p>00:08:39—The status quo in EO</p><p>00:17:30—The smartest people in the room say it's impossible...chips on shoulders and proving the haters wrong    </p><p>00:28:15—A word from Kepler </p><p>00:29:05—How do you decide who to partner with?  </p><p>00:39:04—Predicting future products and capabilities    </p><p>00:46:53—Q from social media: Could you product have found Malaysia Airlines Flight 370?    </p><p>00:48:44—Audience Q: What are you doing around supplier diversity programs?    </p><p>00:50:43—When will we get satellite imagery that's high-res and granular enough to see Bill Perkins wakesurfing on Lake Travis?</p><p>00:52:34—Close of show </p><h2>• Show notes •</h2><p>Firehawk hot-fire: https://twitter.com/FirehawkAero/status/1630999186282872843?s=20</p><p>SkyFi partnership with Umbra: https://twitter.com/SkyfiApp/status/1635692914821955584?s=20</p><p>...and Satellogic: https://www.skyfi.com/blog/skyfi-announces-integration-with-satellogic-to-expand-earth-observation#main</p><p>SkyFi: https://www.skyfi.com/</p><p>Umbra: https://umbra.space/</p><p>Albedo: https://albedo.com/</p><p>FIrehawk: https://firehawkaerospace.com/</p><p>Payload: http://payloadspace.com/</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Joe Laurienti is the CEO and cofounder of Ursa Major, a company that builds and sells propulsion products for A) launch, B) hypersonics, and C) in-space transportation. </p><p>Joe cut his teeth at SpaceX and Blue Origin before setting out on his own and starting Ursa Major in 2015. The Colorado company raised $85M in December 2021 and started ramping engine production last year. It has two bigger, badder beasts in the works: Ripley, Hadley’s bigger sister, is 10X more powerful. 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The thought-to-be-dead rocket developer is in fact not dead, and last October, tweeted a photo of its Vector-R, with strong “rumors of my demise were greatly exaggerated” vibes. </p><h2>• Chapters •</h2><ul><li>00:00:00 Intro and Ad</li><li>00:02:02 Guest Intro</li><li>00:03:30 What were you working on at SpaceX and Blue Origin?</li><li>00:04:53 USC Rocket Propulsion Lab</li><li>00:06:13 Origin story into entrepreneurship</li><li>00:09:41 Story of the name Ursa Major</li><li>00:11:36 Space SEO + skincare products</li><li>00:12:12 How have your numbers changed in a year in terms of production?</li><li>00:14:03 Hadley, Ripley, and Arroway</li><li>00:15:00 Your engines, how they fit together, and their capabilities</li><li>00:19:25 First methane fuled rocket?</li><li>00:20:40 Technology stacks/methods driving your production</li><li>00:23:51 Reason for existence</li><li>00:30:05 Vector and Vector-R annoucnement</li><li>00:32:15 Your contribution to the partnership</li><li>00:33:52 How did the partnership start and where do you see it going?</li><li>00:35:34 Commercial partnership with Phantom</li><li>00:37:16 Other partners</li><li>00:38:37 Recruitment from the big 2 and other recruiting targets</li><li>00:42:24 Raising funds vs revenue generation</li><li>00:44:22 Max Q: What reasons are there to be bullish on small launch?</li><li>00:45:49 How many launch companies can have viable business models?</li><li>00:47:25 how do you view the Aerojet Rocketdyne acquisition and what does it mean for Ursa? Is $4.7B a ceiling for a company building engines? How do you see Ursa becoming more valuable?</li><li>00:49:18 Rapid fire q</li></ul><h2>• Show notes •</h2><p>Landing page — <a href="https://www.ursamajor.com/">https://www.ursamajor.com/</a><br />Jobs — <a href="https://www.ursamajor.com/careers">https://www.ursamajor.com/careers</a><br />Culture — <a href="https://www.ursamajor.com/culture">https://www.ursamajor.com/culture</a><br />Arroway — <a href="https://payloadspace.com/ursa-major-unveils-arroway/">https://payloadspace.com/ursa-major-unveils-arroway/</a><br />April 2022 interview — <a href="https://payloadspace.com/ursa-major-scales/">https://payloadspace.com/ursa-major-scales/</a><br />Twitter — <a href="https://twitter.com/ursamajortech">https://twitter.com/ursamajortech</a><br />LinkedIn — <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/ursamajortech/">https://www.linkedin.com/company/ursamajortech/</a><br />Ryan's socials — <a href="https://twitter.com/Ryandoofy">https://twitter.com/Ryandoofy</a> / <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rfduffy/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/rfduffy/</a><br />Payload’s socials — <a href="https://twitter.com/payloadspace">https://twitter.com/payloadspace</a> /  <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace">https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</a><br />Pathfinder archive — Watch: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_uY3GaNf67hP-i6TRWF2n06xMv1kdkZ6">https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_uY3GaNf67hP-i6TRWF2n06xMv1kdkZ6</a><br />Pathfinder archive — Listen: <a href="https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes">https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</a></p><h2>• More info •</h2><p>This info is provided by Ursa Major. Find out more at ursamajor.com/engines. </p><p>"Our engines are optimized to offer high performance, diverse capability, and unwavering reliability — all at a competitive price." The engines feature: </p><ul><li><strong>Staged Combustion:</strong> High-performing engine cycle in a compact design, innovating technology to its limit</li><li><strong>Reusability:</strong> Single engines capable of multi-mission use and extended duration applications</li><li><strong>Thrust Vector Control:</strong> Precise gimbal maneuvering and control</li><li><strong>Active throttle range:</strong> Allows for Max-Q throttling, g-limit throttling and mission-specific thrust profiles</li><li><strong>Single-mission restarts:</strong> Allows for efficient orbit-changing burns, de-orbit burns, and Stage 1 recovery</li><li><strong>Custom burn duration:</strong> Allows for flexibility in mission planning and total impulse</li></ul><p>Hadley, Ursa Major's engine that's currently in production, has 5,000 lbf of thrust @ sea level, runs on lox and kerosene, and is designed for low Earth orbit, geostationary orbit, in-space propulsion, and hypersonics systems. </p><p>Ripley, which is in development, has 50,000 lbf of thrust @ sea level, also runs on lox and kerosene, and is designed for LEO and GEO. Arroway, which is earlier in the R&D phase, has 200,000 lbf of thrust; runs on lox and methane; and is designed for medium and heavy boost launch vehicles.</p>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Laurienti is the CEO and cofounder of Ursa Major, a company that builds and sells propulsion products for A) launch, B) hypersonics, and C) in-space transportation. </p><p>Joe cut his teeth at SpaceX and Blue Origin before setting out on his own and starting Ursa Major in 2015. The Colorado company raised $85M in December 2021 and started ramping engine production last year. It has two bigger, badder beasts in the works: Ripley, Hadley’s bigger sister, is 10X more powerful. Arroway, which is further out, is a 200,000-pound thrust, liquid oxygen and methane staged combustion engine. </p><p>On today’s show, Joe and Ryan talk about the startup’s primary products; its origin story; and how big of a market Ursa Major believes it’s going after.</p><p>Today’s episode is brought to you by <a href="https://kepler.space/">Kepler Communications</a>, a company bringing the internet to space. </p><h2>• Sneak peek •</h2><p>Joe joins Pathfinder with a surprise, and a space scoop: Ursa Major has struck a deal to supply Vector Launch with “several” propulsion systems, he tells Pathfinder. Ursa’s Hadley engines will power the main stage of the Vector-R launch vehicle in future demonstration missions. Vector is a seven-year-old startup that's raised more than $180M to date but had to declare bankruptcy in 2020. The thought-to-be-dead rocket developer is in fact not dead, and last October, tweeted a photo of its Vector-R, with strong “rumors of my demise were greatly exaggerated” vibes. </p><h2>• Chapters •</h2><ul><li>00:00:00 Intro and Ad</li><li>00:02:02 Guest Intro</li><li>00:03:30 What were you working on at SpaceX and Blue Origin?</li><li>00:04:53 USC Rocket Propulsion Lab</li><li>00:06:13 Origin story into entrepreneurship</li><li>00:09:41 Story of the name Ursa Major</li><li>00:11:36 Space SEO + skincare products</li><li>00:12:12 How have your numbers changed in a year in terms of production?</li><li>00:14:03 Hadley, Ripley, and Arroway</li><li>00:15:00 Your engines, how they fit together, and their capabilities</li><li>00:19:25 First methane fuled rocket?</li><li>00:20:40 Technology stacks/methods driving your production</li><li>00:23:51 Reason for existence</li><li>00:30:05 Vector and Vector-R annoucnement</li><li>00:32:15 Your contribution to the partnership</li><li>00:33:52 How did the partnership start and where do you see it going?</li><li>00:35:34 Commercial partnership with Phantom</li><li>00:37:16 Other partners</li><li>00:38:37 Recruitment from the big 2 and other recruiting targets</li><li>00:42:24 Raising funds vs revenue generation</li><li>00:44:22 Max Q: What reasons are there to be bullish on small launch?</li><li>00:45:49 How many launch companies can have viable business models?</li><li>00:47:25 how do you view the Aerojet Rocketdyne acquisition and what does it mean for Ursa? Is $4.7B a ceiling for a company building engines? How do you see Ursa becoming more valuable?</li><li>00:49:18 Rapid fire q</li></ul><h2>• Show notes •</h2><p>Landing page — <a href="https://www.ursamajor.com/">https://www.ursamajor.com/</a><br />Jobs — <a href="https://www.ursamajor.com/careers">https://www.ursamajor.com/careers</a><br />Culture — <a href="https://www.ursamajor.com/culture">https://www.ursamajor.com/culture</a><br />Arroway — <a href="https://payloadspace.com/ursa-major-unveils-arroway/">https://payloadspace.com/ursa-major-unveils-arroway/</a><br />April 2022 interview — <a href="https://payloadspace.com/ursa-major-scales/">https://payloadspace.com/ursa-major-scales/</a><br />Twitter — <a href="https://twitter.com/ursamajortech">https://twitter.com/ursamajortech</a><br />LinkedIn — <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/ursamajortech/">https://www.linkedin.com/company/ursamajortech/</a><br />Ryan's socials — <a href="https://twitter.com/Ryandoofy">https://twitter.com/Ryandoofy</a> / <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rfduffy/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/rfduffy/</a><br />Payload’s socials — <a href="https://twitter.com/payloadspace">https://twitter.com/payloadspace</a> /  <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace">https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</a><br />Pathfinder archive — Watch: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_uY3GaNf67hP-i6TRWF2n06xMv1kdkZ6">https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_uY3GaNf67hP-i6TRWF2n06xMv1kdkZ6</a><br />Pathfinder archive — Listen: <a href="https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes">https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</a></p><h2>• More info •</h2><p>This info is provided by Ursa Major. Find out more at ursamajor.com/engines. </p><p>"Our engines are optimized to offer high performance, diverse capability, and unwavering reliability — all at a competitive price." The engines feature: </p><ul><li><strong>Staged Combustion:</strong> High-performing engine cycle in a compact design, innovating technology to its limit</li><li><strong>Reusability:</strong> Single engines capable of multi-mission use and extended duration applications</li><li><strong>Thrust Vector Control:</strong> Precise gimbal maneuvering and control</li><li><strong>Active throttle range:</strong> Allows for Max-Q throttling, g-limit throttling and mission-specific thrust profiles</li><li><strong>Single-mission restarts:</strong> Allows for efficient orbit-changing burns, de-orbit burns, and Stage 1 recovery</li><li><strong>Custom burn duration:</strong> Allows for flexibility in mission planning and total impulse</li></ul><p>Hadley, Ursa Major's engine that's currently in production, has 5,000 lbf of thrust @ sea level, runs on lox and kerosene, and is designed for low Earth orbit, geostationary orbit, in-space propulsion, and hypersonics systems. </p><p>Ripley, which is in development, has 50,000 lbf of thrust @ sea level, also runs on lox and kerosene, and is designed for LEO and GEO. Arroway, which is earlier in the R&D phase, has 200,000 lbf of thrust; runs on lox and methane; and is designed for medium and heavy boost launch vehicles.</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In today’s episode, we welcome on Joel Spark, cofounder and chief satellite architect at Spire. The “space-to-cloud” data and analytics provider flys a proprietary constellation of 100+ nanosatellites to collect and analyze data from Earth. The data spans weather forecasting, maritime domain awareness, aviation, and more. Spire is publicly traded on the New York Stock Exchange, and currently has a market cap of ~$150M. </p><p>Today’s episode is brought to you by <a href="https://kepler.space/">Kepler Communications</a>, a company bringing the internet to space. </p><h2>A sneak peek </h2><p>The back half of our conversation focuses on Spire’s “Space Services” play, and the concept of space-as-a-service. Before that, though, we explore Joel’s journey into the industry and how he was “spacepilled,” and unpack the mind-blowing fact that Spire began as a KickStarter crowdfunding campaign. </p><p>Here’s what else you can expect in Pathfinder #0037: </p><ul><li>The 80/20 principle of building complex hardware systems</li><li>The primacy of vertical integration and agile development</li><li>Spire’s Scottish roots and nanosat factory in Glasgow, Scotland</li><li>AIS, ADS-B, and identifying planes and ships at scale</li><li>Why pulling analytics and insights from that data is often more important than the data itself: “Where is the ship going?” “Is the plane flying off course?”)</li><li>Applying the tech platform analogy to Spire Space Services</li><li>Our Max Q questions: What happens if a customer goes belly up? How big is the market, really, for hosted payloads?</li></ul><p>…there’s a whole lot more where that came from! After tuning in Pathfinder #0037, we’re confident you’ll come away with a comprehensive understanding of technical tailwinds, operational ethos, and management philosophy that drive Spire. </p><h2>• Chapters •</h2><p>00:01—Intro</p><p>01:32—Sponsor</p><p>02:09—Guest Intro</p><p>03:43—How Joel was spacepilled…</p><p>05:07—Spire's origins as a Kickstarter campaign </p><p>09:19—Reliability, uptime, and the 80/20 principle of being </p><p>12:04—How many satellites does Spire currently operate in space today?</p><p>16:56—Agile development, vertical integration, operational tempo, and company culture</p><p>18:55—AIS and ADS-B definitions </p><p>21:25—Can global identification of planes and ships only be done at scale from space? </p><p>23:33—Ukraine airspace closing + visuals of airspace data</p><p>24:11—Are services like that Elon Jet tracker using Spire data? </p><p>26:56—Kepler Ad Break</p><p>27:45—Spire as a “space to cloud” analytics provider</p><p>30:25—How does Earth intelligence fit into all of this?</p><p>33:01—The business model of “space as a service”</p><p>37:10—Conceptualizing Spire as a tech platform</p><p>40:32—What are your customers doing in space?</p><p>43:48—Customers looking to launch constellations</p><p>46:11—What happens if a Space Services customer goes belly up? </p><p>47:10—Do you and the team pay attention to your stock prices every day or phase it out?</p><p>49:37—What’s the TAM of people, theoretically, of people trying to fly payloads on satellites? </p><p>52:42—Anything else before lightning round?</p><p>54:07—Rapid fire questions + close of show </p><h2>• Show notes •</h2><p>Spire — https://spire.com/</p><p>Spire Twitter — https://twitter.com/spireglobal</p><p>Recent earnings — https://payloadspace.com/spire-q4-2022/</p><p>Space Services — https://payloadspace.com/spire-q4-2022/</p><p>ADS-B data in leadup to Russia's invasion of Ukraine — https://payloadspace.com/six-months-ukraine-war/</p><p>Ryan's socials — https://twitter.com/Ryandoofy / https://www.linkedin.com/in/rfduffy/</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_uY3GaNf67hP-i6TRWF2n06xMv1kdkZ6</p><p>Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In today’s episode, we welcome on Joel Spark, cofounder and chief satellite architect at Spire. The “space-to-cloud” data and analytics provider flys a proprietary constellation of 100+ nanosatellites to collect and analyze data from Earth. The data spans weather forecasting, maritime domain awareness, aviation, and more. Spire is publicly traded on the New York Stock Exchange, and currently has a market cap of ~$150M. </p><p>Today’s episode is brought to you by <a href="https://kepler.space/">Kepler Communications</a>, a company bringing the internet to space. </p><h2>A sneak peek </h2><p>The back half of our conversation focuses on Spire’s “Space Services” play, and the concept of space-as-a-service. Before that, though, we explore Joel’s journey into the industry and how he was “spacepilled,” and unpack the mind-blowing fact that Spire began as a KickStarter crowdfunding campaign. </p><p>Here’s what else you can expect in Pathfinder #0037: </p><ul><li>The 80/20 principle of building complex hardware systems</li><li>The primacy of vertical integration and agile development</li><li>Spire’s Scottish roots and nanosat factory in Glasgow, Scotland</li><li>AIS, ADS-B, and identifying planes and ships at scale</li><li>Why pulling analytics and insights from that data is often more important than the data itself: “Where is the ship going?” “Is the plane flying off course?”)</li><li>Applying the tech platform analogy to Spire Space Services</li><li>Our Max Q questions: What happens if a customer goes belly up? How big is the market, really, for hosted payloads?</li></ul><p>…there’s a whole lot more where that came from! After tuning in Pathfinder #0037, we’re confident you’ll come away with a comprehensive understanding of technical tailwinds, operational ethos, and management philosophy that drive Spire. </p><h2>• Chapters •</h2><p>00:01—Intro</p><p>01:32—Sponsor</p><p>02:09—Guest Intro</p><p>03:43—How Joel was spacepilled…</p><p>05:07—Spire's origins as a Kickstarter campaign </p><p>09:19—Reliability, uptime, and the 80/20 principle of being </p><p>12:04—How many satellites does Spire currently operate in space today?</p><p>16:56—Agile development, vertical integration, operational tempo, and company culture</p><p>18:55—AIS and ADS-B definitions </p><p>21:25—Can global identification of planes and ships only be done at scale from space? </p><p>23:33—Ukraine airspace closing + visuals of airspace data</p><p>24:11—Are services like that Elon Jet tracker using Spire data? </p><p>26:56—Kepler Ad Break</p><p>27:45—Spire as a “space to cloud” analytics provider</p><p>30:25—How does Earth intelligence fit into all of this?</p><p>33:01—The business model of “space as a service”</p><p>37:10—Conceptualizing Spire as a tech platform</p><p>40:32—What are your customers doing in space?</p><p>43:48—Customers looking to launch constellations</p><p>46:11—What happens if a Space Services customer goes belly up? </p><p>47:10—Do you and the team pay attention to your stock prices every day or phase it out?</p><p>49:37—What’s the TAM of people, theoretically, of people trying to fly payloads on satellites? </p><p>52:42—Anything else before lightning round?</p><p>54:07—Rapid fire questions + close of show </p><h2>• Show notes •</h2><p>Spire — https://spire.com/</p><p>Spire Twitter — https://twitter.com/spireglobal</p><p>Recent earnings — https://payloadspace.com/spire-q4-2022/</p><p>Space Services — https://payloadspace.com/spire-q4-2022/</p><p>ADS-B data in leadup to Russia's invasion of Ukraine — https://payloadspace.com/six-months-ukraine-war/</p><p>Ryan's socials — https://twitter.com/Ryandoofy / https://www.linkedin.com/in/rfduffy/</p><p>Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</p><p>Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_uY3GaNf67hP-i6TRWF2n06xMv1kdkZ6</p><p>Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Today, the Pathfinder podcast brings on its first married cofounder duo. Pathfinder #0036 is brought to you by Kepler Communications, a company bringing the internet to space. Find out more at https://kepler.space/</p><p>Our guests today are Seyka and Brian Mejeur, the cofounders of <a href="https://adastra.us/">AdAstra</a>, an executive and technical headhunting firm primarily for space technology startups. </p><p>Seyka, AdAstra’s CEO, draws on a long resume of recruiting gigs. Brian, the firm’s COO and CTO, worked mainly as a SpaceX propulsion engineer for seven years before AdAstra. The two have worked with Varda, Ursa Major, and other leading startups to place space talent (but their full customer list is confidential).</p><p>By virtue of so many former SpaceX’ers matriculating into the climate tech world, Ad Astra also helps clean technology startups with talent acquisition. For all, think not entry-level but execs and founding teams. In fact, the recruiter duo even helped place a cofounder at a seed-stage startup. </p><h2>• A sneak peek •</h2><p>In today’s episode, Ryan, Seyka, and Brian also discuss: </p><ul><li>Where the space headhunters often focus their recruiting efforts</li><li>A space hiring slowdown that coincided with funding dip in Q3 and Q4, with some seasonality-induced slowness mixed in</li><li>How and why hiring is ticking back up in 2023</li><li>SpaceX’s “culture of extreme ownership and rapid iteration,” as Brian put it</li><li>Seyka’s concept of a space talent funnel</li><li>The draws of being a mission-driven company and why excellent storytelling helps space startups attract top-flight talent</li><li>Equity literacy (or lack thereof) with engineers looking to make the jump from a big company to a startup</li></ul><h2>• Chapters •</h2><p>02:13 Guest intro and backgrounds<br />09:06 Types of people you work with from both sides of the table <br />10:43 Passive vs active search for talent <br />13:10 Post & Pray <br />14:56 What do you look for in clients that you work with? <br />22:35 What have you observed recently about company creation and hiring trends <br />25:22 How do you convince talent to join your company? <br />29:32 Kepler ad break <br />30:20 Did the slowdown in funding for space reflect in hiring? <br />33:34 Hiring advice for CEOs and founders <br />35:27 Are there enough aerospace engineers in the workforce? <br />37:13 Funnel for this industry <br />42:21 Equity and comp discussion<br />48:34 Is there a cut off for clients that are too big? <br />50:44 SpaceX mafia matriculating into climatetech <br />52:56 Predictions <br />55:56 Lightning round</p><h2>• Show notes •</h2><p>AdAstra — <a href="https://adastra.us/" target="_blank">https://adastra.us/</a><br />Seyka's LinkedIn — <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/seyka" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/seyka</a> <br />Brian's LinkedIn — <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-mejeur/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-mejeur/</a><br />Ryan's socials — <a href="https://twitter.com/Ryandoofy">https://twitter.com/Ryandoofy</a> / <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rfduffy/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/rfduffy/</a><br />Payload’s socials — <a href="https://twitter.com/payloadspace">https://twitter.com/payloadspace</a> / <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace">https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</a><br />Pathfinder archive — Watch: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL%5C_uY3GaNf67hP-i6TRWF2n06xMv1kdkZ6">https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL\_uY3GaNf67hP-i6TRWF2n06xMv1kdkZ6</a><br />Listen: <a href="https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes">https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</a></p>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2023 07:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today, the Pathfinder podcast brings on its first married cofounder duo. Pathfinder #0036 is brought to you by Kepler Communications, a company bringing the internet to space. Find out more at https://kepler.space/</p><p>Our guests today are Seyka and Brian Mejeur, the cofounders of <a href="https://adastra.us/">AdAstra</a>, an executive and technical headhunting firm primarily for space technology startups. </p><p>Seyka, AdAstra’s CEO, draws on a long resume of recruiting gigs. Brian, the firm’s COO and CTO, worked mainly as a SpaceX propulsion engineer for seven years before AdAstra. The two have worked with Varda, Ursa Major, and other leading startups to place space talent (but their full customer list is confidential).</p><p>By virtue of so many former SpaceX’ers matriculating into the climate tech world, Ad Astra also helps clean technology startups with talent acquisition. For all, think not entry-level but execs and founding teams. In fact, the recruiter duo even helped place a cofounder at a seed-stage startup. </p><h2>• A sneak peek •</h2><p>In today’s episode, Ryan, Seyka, and Brian also discuss: </p><ul><li>Where the space headhunters often focus their recruiting efforts</li><li>A space hiring slowdown that coincided with funding dip in Q3 and Q4, with some seasonality-induced slowness mixed in</li><li>How and why hiring is ticking back up in 2023</li><li>SpaceX’s “culture of extreme ownership and rapid iteration,” as Brian put it</li><li>Seyka’s concept of a space talent funnel</li><li>The draws of being a mission-driven company and why excellent storytelling helps space startups attract top-flight talent</li><li>Equity literacy (or lack thereof) with engineers looking to make the jump from a big company to a startup</li></ul><h2>• Chapters •</h2><p>02:13 Guest intro and backgrounds<br />09:06 Types of people you work with from both sides of the table <br />10:43 Passive vs active search for talent <br />13:10 Post & Pray <br />14:56 What do you look for in clients that you work with? <br />22:35 What have you observed recently about company creation and hiring trends <br />25:22 How do you convince talent to join your company? <br />29:32 Kepler ad break <br />30:20 Did the slowdown in funding for space reflect in hiring? <br />33:34 Hiring advice for CEOs and founders <br />35:27 Are there enough aerospace engineers in the workforce? <br />37:13 Funnel for this industry <br />42:21 Equity and comp discussion<br />48:34 Is there a cut off for clients that are too big? <br />50:44 SpaceX mafia matriculating into climatetech <br />52:56 Predictions <br />55:56 Lightning round</p><h2>• Show notes •</h2><p>AdAstra — <a href="https://adastra.us/" target="_blank">https://adastra.us/</a><br />Seyka's LinkedIn — <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/seyka" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/seyka</a> <br />Brian's LinkedIn — <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-mejeur/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-mejeur/</a><br />Ryan's socials — <a href="https://twitter.com/Ryandoofy">https://twitter.com/Ryandoofy</a> / <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rfduffy/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/rfduffy/</a><br />Payload’s socials — <a href="https://twitter.com/payloadspace">https://twitter.com/payloadspace</a> / <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace">https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</a><br />Pathfinder archive — Watch: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL%5C_uY3GaNf67hP-i6TRWF2n06xMv1kdkZ6">https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL\_uY3GaNf67hP-i6TRWF2n06xMv1kdkZ6</a><br />Listen: <a href="https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes">https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</a></p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>When he was a senior Pentagon official, Charles (or Chuck) Beames and his fellow military planners would speak forebodingly about “a day without space.” The nightmare scenario would involve a wide-ranging attack, kinetic or otherwise, on space systems, which could produce cascading communications and navigation failures for the armed forces (and wreak havoc on civilian technology systems as well). </p><p>While that scenario hopefully never comes to pass, space is no longer a sanctuary nor uncontested higher ground. And securing civil, commercial, and military spacecraft is the order of the day. </p><p>Today's episode is brought to you by Kepler Communications, a company bringing the internet to space. To learn more about Kepler and how they are modernizing space communications, visit <a href="https://kepler.space/">https://kepler.space/</a></p><h2>• Sneak peek •</h2><p>On Pathfinder #0035, Chuck joins Ryan for a conversation on reconnaissance, security, and the growing cyber threat in space. Among other things, Chuck is the executive chairman of SpiderOak, a startup focused on shoring up the digital defenses of satellites, space networks, and the ground segment. The company recently raised a $16.4M Series C to develop, test, and fly OrbitSecure 2.0. SpiderOak employs two novel security approaches—zero-trust encryption and distributed ledger technology (DLT)—to secure space assets, along with the creation, communication, and management of data. OrbitSecure wraps up the company’s design philosophy and latest defensive techniques into one offering. The product securely compartmentalizes data for complex, interconnected space infrastructure. That’s important, per SpiderOak, because “today, the horizontal integration of ground stations, spacecraft, and payloads means you’re trusting third parties with mission-critical data.” </p><p>Rest of the resume: Chuck is also the executive chairman of York Space Systems, a satellite manufacturer, and cofounder/chairman of the SmallSat alliance. In a past life, Chuck held executive positions in the Pentagon and served as the president of Vulcan Aerospace, where he oversaw $1B of AUM invested in space and tech initiatives and directed the Stratolaunch project. In one of his government posts, Chuck oversaw a $90B annual acquisition budget mostly focused on remote sensing, space-based communications, and orbital launch services. Lastly, Chuck served 23 years on active duty as an Air Force space and intelligence officer, and retired as a colonel. </p><h2>• Chapters •</h2><p>02:30 Chuck joins show <br />03:18 SpiderOak mission + raise <br />07:29 Waking up to cyber threat from peer/near-peer adversaries <br />09:14 Thoughts on the Chinese spy balloon? <br />12:10 Balance of offensive vs. defensive capabilities on orbit <br />15:44 Cybersecurity and the gray zone <br />17:22 Vulnerabilities of space systems <br />19:37 Should space have its own critical infrastructure designation? <br />21:12 A day wthout space <br />27:15 SpiderOak using COTS <br />32:09 The zero trust security framework <br />37:10 What's unique about cybersecurity in space (vis-a-vis terrestrial applications) <br />45:36 Max Q <br />49:01 Staying focused while dealing with diverse mission needs across military, commercial, and civil space <br />53:24 Chuck's hobby </p><h2>• Show notes •</h2><p>Chuck's Twitter — <a href="https://twitter.com/ChuckBeames">https://twitter.com/ChuckBeames</a><br />Bio — <a href="https://spideroak.com/executive-chairman/">https://spideroak.com/executive-chairman/</a><br />Recent TV appearance — <a href="https://video.foxbusiness.com/v/6319232902112#sp=show-clips">https://video.foxbusiness.com/v/6319232902112#sp=show-clips</a><br />OrbitSecure — <a href="https://spideroak.com/orbitsecure/">https://spideroak.com/orbitsecure/</a><br />Ryan's socials — <a href="https://twitter.com/Ryandoofy">https://twitter.com/Ryandoofy</a> / <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rfduffy/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/rfduffy/</a><br />Payload’s socials — <a href="https://twitter.com/payloadspace">https://twitter.com/payloadspace</a> / <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace">https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</a><br />Pathfinder archive — Watch: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL%5C_uY3GaNf67hP-i6TRWF2n06xMv1kdkZ6">https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL\_uY3GaNf67hP-i6TRWF2n06xMv1kdkZ6</a><br />Listen: <a href="https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes">https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</a></p>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When he was a senior Pentagon official, Charles (or Chuck) Beames and his fellow military planners would speak forebodingly about “a day without space.” The nightmare scenario would involve a wide-ranging attack, kinetic or otherwise, on space systems, which could produce cascading communications and navigation failures for the armed forces (and wreak havoc on civilian technology systems as well). </p><p>While that scenario hopefully never comes to pass, space is no longer a sanctuary nor uncontested higher ground. And securing civil, commercial, and military spacecraft is the order of the day. </p><p>Today's episode is brought to you by Kepler Communications, a company bringing the internet to space. To learn more about Kepler and how they are modernizing space communications, visit <a href="https://kepler.space/">https://kepler.space/</a></p><h2>• Sneak peek •</h2><p>On Pathfinder #0035, Chuck joins Ryan for a conversation on reconnaissance, security, and the growing cyber threat in space. Among other things, Chuck is the executive chairman of SpiderOak, a startup focused on shoring up the digital defenses of satellites, space networks, and the ground segment. The company recently raised a $16.4M Series C to develop, test, and fly OrbitSecure 2.0. SpiderOak employs two novel security approaches—zero-trust encryption and distributed ledger technology (DLT)—to secure space assets, along with the creation, communication, and management of data. OrbitSecure wraps up the company’s design philosophy and latest defensive techniques into one offering. The product securely compartmentalizes data for complex, interconnected space infrastructure. That’s important, per SpiderOak, because “today, the horizontal integration of ground stations, spacecraft, and payloads means you’re trusting third parties with mission-critical data.” </p><p>Rest of the resume: Chuck is also the executive chairman of York Space Systems, a satellite manufacturer, and cofounder/chairman of the SmallSat alliance. In a past life, Chuck held executive positions in the Pentagon and served as the president of Vulcan Aerospace, where he oversaw $1B of AUM invested in space and tech initiatives and directed the Stratolaunch project. In one of his government posts, Chuck oversaw a $90B annual acquisition budget mostly focused on remote sensing, space-based communications, and orbital launch services. Lastly, Chuck served 23 years on active duty as an Air Force space and intelligence officer, and retired as a colonel. </p><h2>• Chapters •</h2><p>02:30 Chuck joins show <br />03:18 SpiderOak mission + raise <br />07:29 Waking up to cyber threat from peer/near-peer adversaries <br />09:14 Thoughts on the Chinese spy balloon? <br />12:10 Balance of offensive vs. defensive capabilities on orbit <br />15:44 Cybersecurity and the gray zone <br />17:22 Vulnerabilities of space systems <br />19:37 Should space have its own critical infrastructure designation? <br />21:12 A day wthout space <br />27:15 SpiderOak using COTS <br />32:09 The zero trust security framework <br />37:10 What's unique about cybersecurity in space (vis-a-vis terrestrial applications) <br />45:36 Max Q <br />49:01 Staying focused while dealing with diverse mission needs across military, commercial, and civil space <br />53:24 Chuck's hobby </p><h2>• Show notes •</h2><p>Chuck's Twitter — <a href="https://twitter.com/ChuckBeames">https://twitter.com/ChuckBeames</a><br />Bio — <a href="https://spideroak.com/executive-chairman/">https://spideroak.com/executive-chairman/</a><br />Recent TV appearance — <a href="https://video.foxbusiness.com/v/6319232902112#sp=show-clips">https://video.foxbusiness.com/v/6319232902112#sp=show-clips</a><br />OrbitSecure — <a href="https://spideroak.com/orbitsecure/">https://spideroak.com/orbitsecure/</a><br />Ryan's socials — <a href="https://twitter.com/Ryandoofy">https://twitter.com/Ryandoofy</a> / <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rfduffy/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/rfduffy/</a><br />Payload’s socials — <a href="https://twitter.com/payloadspace">https://twitter.com/payloadspace</a> / <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace">https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace</a><br />Pathfinder archive — Watch: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL%5C_uY3GaNf67hP-i6TRWF2n06xMv1kdkZ6">https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL\_uY3GaNf67hP-i6TRWF2n06xMv1kdkZ6</a><br />Listen: <a href="https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes">https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes</a></p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>On today’s episode, we sit down with AJ Piplica, cofounder and CEO of Hermeus Corporation. The Atlanta startup aims to make hypersonic air travel a reality before the decade is out. AJ dialed into Pathfinder straight from the belly of the beast, i.e., Hermeus’s factory in Atlanta, which was abuzz with employees and machines whirling in the background. </p><p>Today’s episode is brought to you by <a href="https://www.altek-inc.com/space" target="_blank">Altek Space</a>.</p><h2>What is Hermeus up to?</h2><p>The Hermeus team is focused on shrinking the globe by developing the world’s fastest passenger aircraft. The timeline for that = 2029. In the meantime,  Hermeus recently selected Pratt & Whitney’s F100 turbofan for integration into its hypersonic engine, a move that the company claims will save it billions in R&D costs and years of schedule. </p><p>Also in recent memory, Hermeus successfully demonstrated a turbojet to ramjet transition with its Chimera engine. Finally, Hermeus raised a $100M Series B last March to develop Quarterhorse and Darkhorse, its first and second hypersonic vehicles.<br /><br />Among other things, AJ and Ryan covered:<br />— The startup’s origin story<br />— The roadmap: Chimera → Quarterhorse → Darkhorse → Halcyon<br />— What’s the state of hypersonics today?<br />— How the Halcyon passenger aircraft will be designed<br />— Derisking the business plan through iterative development and buying off the shelf<br />— Lowering the cost of aircraft certification<br />— Building in public and investing in marketing early on<br />— Atlanta’s talent density and Hermeus’s recruiting efforts</p><h2>Chapters</h2><p>02:40 – Welcome, AJ <br />06:02 – Hermeus's beginnings <br />10:49 – Rockets and ICBMs fly at hypersonic speeds...what's new here? (+ nice pun)<br />14:24 – Why do planes fly slower today than decades ago?<br /> 20:14 – Chimera engine and commercial off-the-shelf (COTS) parts<br /> 21:31 – Watch Chimera go turbojet –> ramjet 🔥🔥🔥<br />24:28 – AJ's take on a hypersonics gap between the US and near-peer adversaries<br />32:00 – How'd do you get VCs to bet on you so early on? <br />37:11  – Chimera → Quarterhorse → Darkhorse → Halcyon<br />47:29 – UX for hypersonic airliners <br />49:03 – How do you back into your estimate that hypersonics could add $4T in GDP?!<br />51:46 – All-in costs of bringing Halcyon to market<br />54:05 – Outmaneuvering commercial competitors / defense primes<br />57:19 – Status quo in government procurement <br />59:10 – Why build in public and invest in marketing so early on?  <br />1:02:42 – Talent density in Atlanta  </p><h2>About us</h2><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand, and while we have designs on becoming the biggest space content company in the galaxy, for now, we publish: 1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, every Monday to Friday morning 2) Pathfinder, this podcast, on Tuesday mornings 3) ...and 💫Parallax!💫 on Thursday afternoons. </p><p>Subscribe to our <a href="http://payloadspace.com/">daily newsletter</a> and find out more about Payload at <a href="https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes/payloadspace.com" target="_blank">www.payloadspace.com</a>.</p>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 1 Feb 2023 09:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>mo@arkaeamedia.com (Arkaea Media (Payload | Ignition | Tectonic))</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On today’s episode, we sit down with AJ Piplica, cofounder and CEO of Hermeus Corporation. The Atlanta startup aims to make hypersonic air travel a reality before the decade is out. AJ dialed into Pathfinder straight from the belly of the beast, i.e., Hermeus’s factory in Atlanta, which was abuzz with employees and machines whirling in the background. </p><p>Today’s episode is brought to you by <a href="https://www.altek-inc.com/space" target="_blank">Altek Space</a>.</p><h2>What is Hermeus up to?</h2><p>The Hermeus team is focused on shrinking the globe by developing the world’s fastest passenger aircraft. The timeline for that = 2029. In the meantime,  Hermeus recently selected Pratt & Whitney’s F100 turbofan for integration into its hypersonic engine, a move that the company claims will save it billions in R&D costs and years of schedule. </p><p>Also in recent memory, Hermeus successfully demonstrated a turbojet to ramjet transition with its Chimera engine. Finally, Hermeus raised a $100M Series B last March to develop Quarterhorse and Darkhorse, its first and second hypersonic vehicles.<br /><br />Among other things, AJ and Ryan covered:<br />— The startup’s origin story<br />— The roadmap: Chimera → Quarterhorse → Darkhorse → Halcyon<br />— What’s the state of hypersonics today?<br />— How the Halcyon passenger aircraft will be designed<br />— Derisking the business plan through iterative development and buying off the shelf<br />— Lowering the cost of aircraft certification<br />— Building in public and investing in marketing early on<br />— Atlanta’s talent density and Hermeus’s recruiting efforts</p><h2>Chapters</h2><p>02:40 – Welcome, AJ <br />06:02 – Hermeus's beginnings <br />10:49 – Rockets and ICBMs fly at hypersonic speeds...what's new here? (+ nice pun)<br />14:24 – Why do planes fly slower today than decades ago?<br /> 20:14 – Chimera engine and commercial off-the-shelf (COTS) parts<br /> 21:31 – Watch Chimera go turbojet –> ramjet 🔥🔥🔥<br />24:28 – AJ's take on a hypersonics gap between the US and near-peer adversaries<br />32:00 – How'd do you get VCs to bet on you so early on? <br />37:11  – Chimera → Quarterhorse → Darkhorse → Halcyon<br />47:29 – UX for hypersonic airliners <br />49:03 – How do you back into your estimate that hypersonics could add $4T in GDP?!<br />51:46 – All-in costs of bringing Halcyon to market<br />54:05 – Outmaneuvering commercial competitors / defense primes<br />57:19 – Status quo in government procurement <br />59:10 – Why build in public and invest in marketing so early on?  <br />1:02:42 – Talent density in Atlanta  </p><h2>About us</h2><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand, and while we have designs on becoming the biggest space content company in the galaxy, for now, we publish: 1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, every Monday to Friday morning 2) Pathfinder, this podcast, on Tuesday mornings 3) ...and 💫Parallax!💫 on Thursday afternoons. </p><p>Subscribe to our <a href="http://payloadspace.com/">daily newsletter</a> and find out more about Payload at <a href="https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes/payloadspace.com" target="_blank">www.payloadspace.com</a>.</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Today, Pathfinder turns the complexity up a notch by simultaneously welcoming two speakers onto the show. </p><p>Matt Weinzierl and Brendan Rosseau research, write, and develop coursework at the intersection of space and economics. They teach MBA students at a business school just outside of Boston (why yes, we are indeed referring to Harvard Business School). </p><p>Today’s episode is brought to you by Altek Space, which provides custom manufacturing of essential parts and components for rockets and satellites, including smallsats. Find out more at <a href="https://www.altek-inc.com/space">https://www.altek-inc.com/space</a></p><h2>Why is HBS so invested in space?</h2><p>As Matt and Brendan wrote in a widely read <i>Harvard Business Review </i><a href="https://hbr.org/2022/11/your-company-needs-a-space-strategy-now">essay</a>, ”Your Company Needs a Space Strategy. Now.” The two join Ryan today to discuss the thinking behind this theory, along with: </p><ul><li>Space-for-space vs. space-for-Earth</li><li>What types of students study space at HBS?</li><li>The most encouraging signs of “innovism” on orbit</li><li>Why we’re living through an inflection point in space</li><li>Should we prioritize human spaceflight or automation?</li><li>The chicken and egg problem facing space station developers</li><li>Could the commercial space market be in the middle of a bubble?</li></ul><p>…and more! Ryan quizzes the two on how their “space strategy” framework would apply to sectors ranging from semiconductors to consumer packaged goods, and probes for areas where the two disagree. </p><p>You don’t want to miss this convo—it’s bound to shape how you think about the economics of space. </p><h2>Chapters</h2><p>00:00 – Intro </p><p>02:54 — Matt + Brendan bios</p><p>03:50 — how’d you land here?</p><p>08:59 — why HBS is teaching about space</p><p>12:28 — professionalization of the space industry </p><p>14:18 — who’s taking space courses at HBS </p><p>17:36 — space hiring from Big Tech? </p><p>21:30 — the industry is at an inflection point</p><p>25:18 — “Your Company Needs a Space Strategy. Now.” </p><p>29:43 — Applying that theory to e-commerce…</p><p>31:03  …consumer packaged goods, and…</p><p>32:37 …semiconductors</p><p>34:23 — So…what’s HBS’s space strategy?!</p><p>35:45 — Data, capabilities, resources, and markets</p><p>37:04 — Space-for-space vs. space-for-Earth</p><p>41:36 — Private vs. public players </p><p>43:44 — What in the world is innovism? </p><p>47:39 — KPIs for commercial success in space </p><p>55:32 — Thoughts on the launch market </p><p>1:02:35 — Commercial space bubble?</p><p>1:05:06 — Lightning round</p><h2>About us</h2><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand, and while we have designs on becoming the biggest space content company in the galaxy, for now, we publish: 1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, every Monday to Friday morning 2) Pathfinder, this podcast, on Tuesday mornings 3) ...and 💫Parallax!💫 on Thursday afternoons. </p><p>Subscribe to our <a href="http://payloadspace.com">daily newsletter</a> and find out more about Payload at <a href="payloadspace.com" target="_blank">www.payloadspace.com</a>.</p>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today, Pathfinder turns the complexity up a notch by simultaneously welcoming two speakers onto the show. </p><p>Matt Weinzierl and Brendan Rosseau research, write, and develop coursework at the intersection of space and economics. They teach MBA students at a business school just outside of Boston (why yes, we are indeed referring to Harvard Business School). </p><p>Today’s episode is brought to you by Altek Space, which provides custom manufacturing of essential parts and components for rockets and satellites, including smallsats. Find out more at <a href="https://www.altek-inc.com/space">https://www.altek-inc.com/space</a></p><h2>Why is HBS so invested in space?</h2><p>As Matt and Brendan wrote in a widely read <i>Harvard Business Review </i><a href="https://hbr.org/2022/11/your-company-needs-a-space-strategy-now">essay</a>, ”Your Company Needs a Space Strategy. Now.” The two join Ryan today to discuss the thinking behind this theory, along with: </p><ul><li>Space-for-space vs. space-for-Earth</li><li>What types of students study space at HBS?</li><li>The most encouraging signs of “innovism” on orbit</li><li>Why we’re living through an inflection point in space</li><li>Should we prioritize human spaceflight or automation?</li><li>The chicken and egg problem facing space station developers</li><li>Could the commercial space market be in the middle of a bubble?</li></ul><p>…and more! Ryan quizzes the two on how their “space strategy” framework would apply to sectors ranging from semiconductors to consumer packaged goods, and probes for areas where the two disagree. </p><p>You don’t want to miss this convo—it’s bound to shape how you think about the economics of space. </p><h2>Chapters</h2><p>00:00 – Intro </p><p>02:54 — Matt + Brendan bios</p><p>03:50 — how’d you land here?</p><p>08:59 — why HBS is teaching about space</p><p>12:28 — professionalization of the space industry </p><p>14:18 — who’s taking space courses at HBS </p><p>17:36 — space hiring from Big Tech? </p><p>21:30 — the industry is at an inflection point</p><p>25:18 — “Your Company Needs a Space Strategy. Now.” </p><p>29:43 — Applying that theory to e-commerce…</p><p>31:03  …consumer packaged goods, and…</p><p>32:37 …semiconductors</p><p>34:23 — So…what’s HBS’s space strategy?!</p><p>35:45 — Data, capabilities, resources, and markets</p><p>37:04 — Space-for-space vs. space-for-Earth</p><p>41:36 — Private vs. public players </p><p>43:44 — What in the world is innovism? </p><p>47:39 — KPIs for commercial success in space </p><p>55:32 — Thoughts on the launch market </p><p>1:02:35 — Commercial space bubble?</p><p>1:05:06 — Lightning round</p><h2>About us</h2><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand, and while we have designs on becoming the biggest space content company in the galaxy, for now, we publish: 1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, every Monday to Friday morning 2) Pathfinder, this podcast, on Tuesday mornings 3) ...and 💫Parallax!💫 on Thursday afternoons. </p><p>Subscribe to our <a href="http://payloadspace.com">daily newsletter</a> and find out more about Payload at <a href="payloadspace.com" target="_blank">www.payloadspace.com</a>.</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Jim served as the 13th administrator of NASA and spearheaded the launch of the Artemis program. During Jim’s watch, the US also returned to launching its own astronauts to orbit from US soil (with SpaceX). Jim’s bio will be familiar to most space buffs in Payload and Pathfinder’s audience, so in our convo, we dig a bit deeper on his backstory, get a status report on Artemis, and take a closer look at his current roles in the commercial space ecosystem.</p><p>Today's episode is brought to you by<a href="https://www.altek-inc.com/space"> Altek Space</a>, a custom manufacturer of essential parts and components for rockets and satellites.</p><h2>*SNEAK PEEK*</h2><ul><li>Serving as a US Navy aviator; landing on aircraft carriers; and TOP GUN…real life vs. the movie</li><li>Jim’s involvement in the Rocket Racing League and his time at the helm of the Tulsa Air and Space Museum and Planetarium</li><li>Serving in the US House as a representative of the 1st District of Oklahoma (and his HASC and SST committee membership)</li><li>Working with an office of “space knuckleheads”—Jim uses that term endearingly—and honing his aerospace policy chops while on Capitol Hill</li><li>Why going to the Moon vs. going to Mars was once an either-or, partisan debate on the Hill</li><li>Jim’s time leading NASA, architecting the Artemis program, and</li><li>His post-NASA space involvement (which includes advisory or trustee roles with Voyager, Viasat, Phase Four, The Aerospace Corporation, Firefly, and Acorn Growth Companies)</li></ul><p>This is our longest show to date and for good reason. We had a lot of ground to cover, and yet we <i>still</i> didn’t get to Pathfinder’s planned segment about boots on Mars. Check out the episode and let us know what you’d want to hear in a Part 2.</p><h2>*CHAPTERS*</h2><p>02:54 Guest intro<br />03:11 Jim's office photos<br />03:37 Top Gun inspiration<br />04:50 Does it surprise you the Navy wouldn't let Tom Cruise fly a jet?<br />06:29 Journey into aviation, experience in the military, and using space assets in combat<br />13:41 Rocket Racing League<br />22:07 Trying to bring one of the Space Shuttles to Tulsa<br />24:55 Time as an elected official<br />31:51 American Space Renaissance Act<br />37:05 Difference between approving NASA funding and running it<br />42:48 Moon vs. Mars - why was it either-or and at times partisan?<br />45:23 Why we should outsource some space functions to the private sector<br />48:26 Artemis vs. Apollo<br />54:32 Artemis I splashdown<br />56:29 Advising space companies and organizations<br />1:06:00 2022's biggest space story<br />1:09:36 Worried about a shakeout in space markets?</p><h2>*SHOW NOTES*</h2><p>NASA's Artemis program:<a href="https://www.nasa.gov/specials/artemis/"> https://www.nasa.gov/specials/artemis/</a><br />American Space Renaissance Act:<a href="https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/4945/text"> https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/4945/text</a><br />Firefly:<a href="https://payloadspace.com/firefly-production-ramp/"> https://payloadspace.com/firefly-production-ramp/</a><br />Phase Four: <a href="https://payloadspace.com/phase-four-production/">https://payloadspace.com/phase-four-production/</a><br />Rocket Racing League:<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket%5C_Racing%5C_League"> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket\_Racing\_League</a><br />US return to space:<a href="https://payloadspace.com/netflix-releases-return-to-space/Ryan's"> </a><a href="https://payloadspace.com/netflix-releases-return-to-space/">https://payloadspace.com/netflix-releases-return-to-space/</a><br />Ryan's Twitter:<a href="https://twitter.com/Ryandoofy"> https://twitter.com/Ryandoofy</a> — & LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rfduffy/"> https://www.linkedin.com/in/rfduffy/</a><br />Payload's Twitter:<a href="https://twitter.com/payloadspace"> https://twitter.com/payloadspace</a> — & LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace/"> https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace/</a></p><h2>*ABOUT US*</h2><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 12,000+ decision-makers across commercial, civil, and military space.</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2023 13:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim served as the 13th administrator of NASA and spearheaded the launch of the Artemis program. During Jim’s watch, the US also returned to launching its own astronauts to orbit from US soil (with SpaceX). Jim’s bio will be familiar to most space buffs in Payload and Pathfinder’s audience, so in our convo, we dig a bit deeper on his backstory, get a status report on Artemis, and take a closer look at his current roles in the commercial space ecosystem.</p><p>Today's episode is brought to you by<a href="https://www.altek-inc.com/space"> Altek Space</a>, a custom manufacturer of essential parts and components for rockets and satellites.</p><h2>*SNEAK PEEK*</h2><ul><li>Serving as a US Navy aviator; landing on aircraft carriers; and TOP GUN…real life vs. the movie</li><li>Jim’s involvement in the Rocket Racing League and his time at the helm of the Tulsa Air and Space Museum and Planetarium</li><li>Serving in the US House as a representative of the 1st District of Oklahoma (and his HASC and SST committee membership)</li><li>Working with an office of “space knuckleheads”—Jim uses that term endearingly—and honing his aerospace policy chops while on Capitol Hill</li><li>Why going to the Moon vs. going to Mars was once an either-or, partisan debate on the Hill</li><li>Jim’s time leading NASA, architecting the Artemis program, and</li><li>His post-NASA space involvement (which includes advisory or trustee roles with Voyager, Viasat, Phase Four, The Aerospace Corporation, Firefly, and Acorn Growth Companies)</li></ul><p>This is our longest show to date and for good reason. We had a lot of ground to cover, and yet we <i>still</i> didn’t get to Pathfinder’s planned segment about boots on Mars. Check out the episode and let us know what you’d want to hear in a Part 2.</p><h2>*CHAPTERS*</h2><p>02:54 Guest intro<br />03:11 Jim's office photos<br />03:37 Top Gun inspiration<br />04:50 Does it surprise you the Navy wouldn't let Tom Cruise fly a jet?<br />06:29 Journey into aviation, experience in the military, and using space assets in combat<br />13:41 Rocket Racing League<br />22:07 Trying to bring one of the Space Shuttles to Tulsa<br />24:55 Time as an elected official<br />31:51 American Space Renaissance Act<br />37:05 Difference between approving NASA funding and running it<br />42:48 Moon vs. Mars - why was it either-or and at times partisan?<br />45:23 Why we should outsource some space functions to the private sector<br />48:26 Artemis vs. Apollo<br />54:32 Artemis I splashdown<br />56:29 Advising space companies and organizations<br />1:06:00 2022's biggest space story<br />1:09:36 Worried about a shakeout in space markets?</p><h2>*SHOW NOTES*</h2><p>NASA's Artemis program:<a href="https://www.nasa.gov/specials/artemis/"> https://www.nasa.gov/specials/artemis/</a><br />American Space Renaissance Act:<a href="https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/4945/text"> https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/4945/text</a><br />Firefly:<a href="https://payloadspace.com/firefly-production-ramp/"> https://payloadspace.com/firefly-production-ramp/</a><br />Phase Four: <a href="https://payloadspace.com/phase-four-production/">https://payloadspace.com/phase-four-production/</a><br />Rocket Racing League:<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket%5C_Racing%5C_League"> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket\_Racing\_League</a><br />US return to space:<a href="https://payloadspace.com/netflix-releases-return-to-space/Ryan's"> </a><a href="https://payloadspace.com/netflix-releases-return-to-space/">https://payloadspace.com/netflix-releases-return-to-space/</a><br />Ryan's Twitter:<a href="https://twitter.com/Ryandoofy"> https://twitter.com/Ryandoofy</a> — & LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rfduffy/"> https://www.linkedin.com/in/rfduffy/</a><br />Payload's Twitter:<a href="https://twitter.com/payloadspace"> https://twitter.com/payloadspace</a> — & LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace/"> https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace/</a></p><h2>*ABOUT US*</h2><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 12,000+ decision-makers across commercial, civil, and military space.</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>For his first Pathfinder podcast of 2023, Ryan took a field trip to San Francisco to visit the 120,000-square foot digs of Astranis.</p><p>Today's episode is brought to you by<a href="https://www.altek-inc.com/space"> Altek Space</a>, a custom manufacturer of essential parts and components for rockets and satellites.</p><h2>*SNEAK PEEK*</h2><p>For the uninitiated, Astranis aims to build small, cost-effective GEO satellites that will beam targeted chunks of broadband service down to under- or unconnected parts of Earth.</p><p>The company got its start in 2016 and graduated from Y Combinator’s winter batch the very same year. Two years later, Andreessen Horowitz (or a16z) wrote its first check to a space startup when it led Astranis’s Series A. The space internet startup would later go on to raise $250M from the likes of BlackRock, Baillie Gifford, and Fidelity (i.e., blue-chip growth investors).</p><p>In the coming weeks, the satellite unicorn is preparing to launch its first MicroGEO satellite into a geostationary orbit roughly 22,000 miles above our head. That first MicroGEO bird will provide Alaskans with a significant connectivity boost.</p><p>The company has a lot more cooking, Astranis CEO and cofounder John Gedmark tells us on today’s episode.</p><p>Along with Arcturus, its Alaskan satellite, Astranis plans to launch <i>four </i>more on a Falcon 9 later this year. As we saw firsthand, Astranis is ramping up production and satellite testing at its sprawling facilities, which have housed World War II ship makers, Uber’s Advanced Technologies Group, and now, software-defined satellite makers</p><p>During our Pathfinder recording, Gedmark also broke some news about a key executive that Astranis recently hired. Read on for more. What else did we discuss? The value of GEO vs. LEO, bringing connectivity to Machu Picchu, buying an entire Falcon 9 rocket, use cases for space-based internet, geopolitics…and plenty more. Before we let him go, John also shared his personal 2023 goal, an under-the-radar sci-fi rec, and a very fun fact with us.</p><h2>*CHAPTERS*</h2><p>1:10 - Guest intro<br />2:01 - Astranis HQ<br />4:58 - Vocab<br />7:52 - Why GEO?<br />13:01 - Applying to YC<br />17:31 - The best Demo Day story you’ll ever hear<br />21:43 - Tech stack<br />27:13 - Engineering tradeoffs<br />29:50 - Business model<br />35:48 - Launching with SpaceX<br />40:40 - A big new hire<br />46:52 - Threat surface in GEO<br />55:13 - Who is the competition?</p><h2>*SHOW NOTES*</h2><p>John’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/gedmark </p><p>Astranis’ Twitter: https://twitter.com/Astranis </p><p>Astranis: https://www.astranis.com/ </p><p>Payload’s Astranis coverage: https://payloadspace.com/astranis-microgeo-testing-complete/ / https://payloadspace.com/astranis-arcturus-qa/ / https://payloadspace.com/astranis-and-telesat-strike-90m-deal-to-expand-connectivity-in-peru/</p><h2>*ABOUT US*</h2><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 12,000+ decision-makers across commercial, civil, and military space. Payload began as a weekly newsletter sent to a handful of friends and colleagues. Today, we have three media properties and publish across multiple platforms. Our team is distributed across four time zones and two continents. We aim to inform but also educate and entertain, and we serve a highly concentrated audience of decision-makers in the commercial, civil, and military space sectors.</p><p>While we have designs on becoming the biggest space content company in the galaxy, for now, we publish:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, every Monday to Friday morning https://payloadspace.com/</p><p>2) Pathfinder, this podcast, on Tuesday mornings</p><p>3) Parallax, our weekly science newsletter for the space industry, on Thursday afternoons https://parallax.beehiiv.com/</p><h1> </h1><p> </p>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2023 13:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>mo@arkaeamedia.com (Arkaea Media (Payload | Ignition | Tectonic))</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For his first Pathfinder podcast of 2023, Ryan took a field trip to San Francisco to visit the 120,000-square foot digs of Astranis.</p><p>Today's episode is brought to you by<a href="https://www.altek-inc.com/space"> Altek Space</a>, a custom manufacturer of essential parts and components for rockets and satellites.</p><h2>*SNEAK PEEK*</h2><p>For the uninitiated, Astranis aims to build small, cost-effective GEO satellites that will beam targeted chunks of broadband service down to under- or unconnected parts of Earth.</p><p>The company got its start in 2016 and graduated from Y Combinator’s winter batch the very same year. Two years later, Andreessen Horowitz (or a16z) wrote its first check to a space startup when it led Astranis’s Series A. The space internet startup would later go on to raise $250M from the likes of BlackRock, Baillie Gifford, and Fidelity (i.e., blue-chip growth investors).</p><p>In the coming weeks, the satellite unicorn is preparing to launch its first MicroGEO satellite into a geostationary orbit roughly 22,000 miles above our head. That first MicroGEO bird will provide Alaskans with a significant connectivity boost.</p><p>The company has a lot more cooking, Astranis CEO and cofounder John Gedmark tells us on today’s episode.</p><p>Along with Arcturus, its Alaskan satellite, Astranis plans to launch <i>four </i>more on a Falcon 9 later this year. As we saw firsthand, Astranis is ramping up production and satellite testing at its sprawling facilities, which have housed World War II ship makers, Uber’s Advanced Technologies Group, and now, software-defined satellite makers</p><p>During our Pathfinder recording, Gedmark also broke some news about a key executive that Astranis recently hired. Read on for more. What else did we discuss? The value of GEO vs. LEO, bringing connectivity to Machu Picchu, buying an entire Falcon 9 rocket, use cases for space-based internet, geopolitics…and plenty more. Before we let him go, John also shared his personal 2023 goal, an under-the-radar sci-fi rec, and a very fun fact with us.</p><h2>*CHAPTERS*</h2><p>1:10 - Guest intro<br />2:01 - Astranis HQ<br />4:58 - Vocab<br />7:52 - Why GEO?<br />13:01 - Applying to YC<br />17:31 - The best Demo Day story you’ll ever hear<br />21:43 - Tech stack<br />27:13 - Engineering tradeoffs<br />29:50 - Business model<br />35:48 - Launching with SpaceX<br />40:40 - A big new hire<br />46:52 - Threat surface in GEO<br />55:13 - Who is the competition?</p><h2>*SHOW NOTES*</h2><p>John’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/gedmark </p><p>Astranis’ Twitter: https://twitter.com/Astranis </p><p>Astranis: https://www.astranis.com/ </p><p>Payload’s Astranis coverage: https://payloadspace.com/astranis-microgeo-testing-complete/ / https://payloadspace.com/astranis-arcturus-qa/ / https://payloadspace.com/astranis-and-telesat-strike-90m-deal-to-expand-connectivity-in-peru/</p><h2>*ABOUT US*</h2><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 12,000+ decision-makers across commercial, civil, and military space. Payload began as a weekly newsletter sent to a handful of friends and colleagues. Today, we have three media properties and publish across multiple platforms. Our team is distributed across four time zones and two continents. We aim to inform but also educate and entertain, and we serve a highly concentrated audience of decision-makers in the commercial, civil, and military space sectors.</p><p>While we have designs on becoming the biggest space content company in the galaxy, for now, we publish:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, every Monday to Friday morning https://payloadspace.com/</p><p>2) Pathfinder, this podcast, on Tuesday mornings</p><p>3) Parallax, our weekly science newsletter for the space industry, on Thursday afternoons https://parallax.beehiiv.com/</p><h1> </h1><p> </p>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What’s it like running a $11 billion dollar space business at a publicly traded company and managing a team of nearly 22,000? Or what about building the Orion spacecraft that just finished a 25-day trip around the Moon, and will carry astronauts on its next mission? In Pathfinder #0028, we'll get the answers to those questions and a whole lot more with Robert Lightfoot, the executive vice president of Lockheed Martin Space and former acting NASA administrator.</p><p>Today's episode is brought by Altek Space, which provides custom manufacturing of essential parts and components for rockets and satellites (including SmallSats). Find out more at https://www.altek-inc.com/space</p><p>Robert leads the LM Space business, which is one of the four major divisions of its parent company. The $11 billion business line builds space technology systems for defense, civil, and commercial space customers. Its portfolio ranges from integrated systems for satellites to space-based missile defense capabilities to space observatories to interplanetary robotic spacecraft.</p><p>Robert became EVP of LM Space on Jan. 1, 2022, so he’s coming up on his one-year anniversary. Prior to Lockheed, Robert spent 29 years at NASA, holding a variety of leadership roles and rising up the ranks to become associate administrator, the highest ranking civil service position at the agency. He served as the 11th director of NASA Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Alabama.</p><h2>*SNEAK PEEK*</h2><p>Though Robert is from Alabama, went to Bama, and led one of NASA’s key centers in the state, somehow we didn’t cover college football at all. But we did cover: </p><ul><li>An Artemis I postmortem and Orion’s performance during the mission </li><li>Leading large organizations, first in the government and then at a Fortune 500 company</li><li>“Protect, connect, and explore” as organizational guideposts </li><li>Building space hardware at scale </li><li>Recruiting and the importance of talent</li></ul><h2>*CHAPTERS*</h2><p>0:00 intro<br />3:51 Starting in space<br />10:25 Engineer to leader<br />19:30 Artemis I and Orion<br />31:52 LM Space's portfolio..."protect, connect, and explore"<br />41:05 Being part of a public company <br />46:19 Cost-plus vs. fixed-price contracts<br />49:00 Future projects you're excited about<br />54:32 Lightning round</p><h2>*SHOW NOTES*</h2><p>Full bio: https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/who-we-are/leadership-governance/robert-lightfoot.html</p><p>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-lightfoot-lm-space</p><p>Website: https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/capabilities/space.html</p><p>Company Twitter: https://twitter.com/LMSpace</p><p>NDSA explainer: https://payloadspace.com/ndsa-explainer/</p><h2>*ABOUT US*</h2><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 12,000+ decision-makers across commercial, civil, and military space. Payload began as a weekly newsletter sent to a handful of friends and colleagues. Today, we have three media properties and publish across multiple platforms. Our team is distributed across four time zones and two continents. We aim to inform but also educate and entertain, and we serve a highly concentrated audience of decision-makers in the commercial, civil, and military space sectors.</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>What if you could cut the time for data to be relayed from space to Earth from half an hour to milliseconds? That’s the vision of Hedron. Formerly known as Analytical Space, Hedron is developing a network of data relay satellites that it says “will connect space to Earth in real-time.”</p><p>Hedron raised a nearly $18M Series A last year and brought on a new management team, including now-COO Katherine Monson. She’s the former CEO of KSAT Inc., the American division of Kongsberg Satellite Services. Before that, she was an early employee of Spire Global ($SPIR).</p><p>Katherine joins us today on the Pathfinder podcast to discuss Hedron’s go-to-market strategy, the company’s technology, the space industry, the three rules of building networks, and more. Hedron has played its cards relatively close to the vest this year, so it was quite an honor to dig into the startup’s technology, strategy, and outlook for the next few years.</p><p>SPONSOR : Today’s episode is brought to you by Altek Inc., a leading custom injection molding and precision machining manufacturer of key parts and components for rockets and satellites. Find out more at<a href="https://www.altek-inc.com/"> https://www.altek-inc.com/</a></p><h2>*CHAPTERS*</h2><p>00:00: Intro<br />04:30 Dreaming of being SecDef<br />6:49 International cooperation work at Pentagon<br />8:12 High-stakes negotiating and high capital-intensity industries<br />9:00 Entering aerospace world<br />13:00 The importance of trust in business<br />14:30 Changes at Hedron (formerly Analytical Space)<br />19:13 “Today, that's measured in minutes and we need to be moving into milliseconds”<br />21:20 The three rules of building networks<br />28:00 Technology stack, network architecture, and inter-satellite links<br />34:30 What needs to be done in-house and what doesn’t (aka buy vs. build)<br />37:30 Target users and applications…why do firefighters need this technology?<br />50:35 Other industries space can learn from</p><h2>*SHOW NOTES*</h2><p>Website:<a href="https://www.hedron.space/"> https://www.hedron.space/</a><br />Rebrand/Series A<a href="https://payloadspace.com/hedron-rebrands-raises-series-a/"> https://payloadspace.com/hedron-rebrands-raises-series-a/</a><br />Katherine’s LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/katherinedmonson"> https://www.linkedin.com/in/katherinedmonson</a><br />KSAT:<a href="https://www.ksat.no/"> https://www.ksat.no/</a><br />Spire:<a href="https://spire.com/"> https://spire.com/</a><br />Pathfinder’s 2022 Spotify Wrapped:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/posts/rfduffy_pathfinders-spotify-wrapped-weve-been-activity-7007133134081191936-4UvR"> https://www.linkedin.com/posts/rfduffy_pathfinders-spotify-wrapped-weve-been-activity-7007133134081191936-4UvR</a><br />Ryan's socials —<a href="https://twitter.com/Ryandoofy"> https://twitter.com/Ryandoofy</a> /<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rfduffy/"> https://www.linkedin.com/in/rfduffy/</a><br />Payload’s socials —<a href="https://twitter.com/payloadspace"> https://twitter.com/payloadspace</a> /<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace/"> https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace/</a></p><h2>*ABOUT US*</h2><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand built from the ground up for a new age of space exploration and commercialization. We deliver need-to-know news and insights daily to 12,000+ decision-makers across commercial, civil, and military space.We aim to inform but also educate and entertain.</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to Pathfinder #0025, brought to you by Spaced Ventures, the planet’s first public space investment portal.</p><p>Today, we’ll be talking about what in the world Amazon is up to in space, with someone who can speak to this probably better than almost anyone else on the planet. Clint Crosier served in the US Air Force and Space Force for 33 years, and helped stand up the latter branch. After retiring as a major general, Amazon recruited Clint to lead AWS’s Aerospace and Satellites division.</p><p>AWS is short for Amazon Web Services, which you’ll hear a lot in this conversation. For the uninitiated, AWS is the world’s leading cloud computing vendor by market share and revenue. In the last calendar year, Amazon’s cloud unit made $62 billion, representing a 37% year over year increase over 2020. 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      <pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2022 16:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to Pathfinder #0025, brought to you by Spaced Ventures, the planet’s first public space investment portal.</p><p>Today, we’ll be talking about what in the world Amazon is up to in space, with someone who can speak to this probably better than almost anyone else on the planet. Clint Crosier served in the US Air Force and Space Force for 33 years, and helped stand up the latter branch. After retiring as a major general, Amazon recruited Clint to lead AWS’s Aerospace and Satellites division.</p><p>AWS is short for Amazon Web Services, which you’ll hear a lot in this conversation. For the uninitiated, AWS is the world’s leading cloud computing vendor by market share and revenue. In the last calendar year, Amazon’s cloud unit made $62 billion, representing a 37% year over year increase over 2020. 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      <pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2022 13:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2022 12:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About Epsilon3: The startup has developed an operating system (OS) for space missions. The streamlined software tool helps space companies keep tabs on complex engineering, testing, and operational procedures. Epsilon3’s customers include Inversion, Orbit Fab, Virgin Galactic, Firefly, Stoke, Stratolaunch, and Privateer, among other companies.</p><p>And more about our guest : Laura began her space career at Northrop Grumman, before moving on to SpaceX, where she helped put the US back in the human spaceflight biz. She worked on the Dragon ops team and was on the console for the spacecraft’s first flight, its first mission to the ISS, and subsequent commercial crew programs. She also worked on the F9 and Dragon Recovery teams.</p><h2>*CHAPTERS* </h2><p>0:00 — Intro <br />3:06 — Putting the US back in the human spaceflight business <br />5:12 — Other highlights from Laura's time as a SpaceX'er <br />7:43 — The state of play in space mission management <br />10:07 — Why are space missions managed and tracked on pen, paper, Word, and Excel? <br />15:23 — Quantifying Epsilon3's effectiveness <br />19:16 — Building industry tools that everybody needs <br />21:53 — The beauty of elegant software tools <br />25:13 — When you got started, was it a non-obvious or counterintuitive bet to think the space industry was big enough to support its own software startup? 28:28 — A discussion of Epsilon3's customer base <br />31:36 — Meme cameo <br />35:12 — Going through Y Combinator <br />38:43 — Growing with current users and acquiring new customers <br />49:15 — Where the Epsilon3 name cames from</p><h2>*SHOW NOTES*</h2><p>Epsilon3’s Website: https://www.epsilon3.io/</p><p>Laura's Twitter: https://twitter.com/llcrabbie</p><p>Epsilon3’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/epsilon3inc/</p><p>Ryan's Twitter: https://twitter.com/Ryandoofy</p><h2>*ABOUT US*</h2><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand, and while we have designs on becoming the biggest space content company in the galaxy, for now, we publish: </p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, every Monday to Friday morning <br />2) Pathfinder, this podcast, on Tuesday mornings <br />3) ...and 💫Parallax!💫 on Thursday afternoons.</p><p>Parallax is our brand-spanking new weekly science newsletter for the space industry. Subscribe now so you can say you were early by signing up at parallax.beehiiv.com</p><p>Subscribe to our daily newsletter and find out more about Payload at www.payloadspace.com</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Astra's first launch of NASA’s TROPICS satellites ended in failure this summer. Shortly thereafter, Astra scrapped all flights for 2022 and accelerated its pivot to a larger, more capable launcher. As it moves customer payloads to the Rocket 4.0 manifest, Astra says it will launch scientific spacecraft for NASA that are comparable to TROPICS payloads.</p><p>All the while, shares of Astra have been in free-fall: $ASTR is -90% YTD. Chris still sounded a confident tone, saying the company has the cash to get to Rocket 4.0. Plus, “we have a tremendous number of assets sitting behind me that we've been using our balance sheet to fund,” Chris told us.</p><h2>*CHAPTERS* </h2><p>0:00 - Intro <br />5:40 - Astra's garage origins and what's changed in the last five years <br />9:43 - Falcon 9 → Falcon 9 .... and how Astra is responding to market demand in launch <br />12:40 - What’s the delta in "the three Cs" as Astra moves from 3.0 to 4.0? <br />16:39 - Chris dives into what’s needed for launching 4.0 <br />19:10 - How has Astra’s willingness to fail early and iterate helped them get to where they are today? <br />26:10 - An evolving approach to manufacturing, production, and launch operations <br />28:18 - The customer profile and civil, commercial, and military space split for Rocket 4.0 <br />31:47 - Take the Payload/SpiderOak space cyber survey <br />33:38 - IR with institutions and retail investors <br />37:46 - Ryan shares a Payload reader’s question (and concerns) about Astra's future <br />40:27 - Could a sale be in the cards? <br />44:32 - Where will Astra be 12 months from now? <br />49:43 - Hottest take, or most contrarian view, on space</p><h2>*SHOW NOTES* </h2><p>Astra’s website: https://astra.com/ </p><p>Chris’ Twitter: https://twitter.com/kemp </p><p>Astra’s investor updates: https://investor.astra.com/static-files/6492bebb-0313-4b4b-a52a-da29428239d9 | https://investor.astra.com/news-releases/news-release-details/astra-announces-spacecraft-engine-contract-airbus-oneweb </p><p>Astra’s Keynote Day: https://astra.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Astra-Spacetech-Day-Keynote-2022.pdf </p><h2>*ABOUT US* </h2><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand, and while we have designs on becoming the biggest space content company in the galaxy, for now, we publish:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, every Monday to Friday morning<br />2) Pathfinder, this podcast, on Tuesday mornings<br />3) ...and 💫Parallax!💫 on Thursday afternoons. </p><p>Parallax is our new weekly science newsletter for the space industry. Subscribe now so you can say you were early by signing up at parallax.beehiiv.com</p><p>Subscribe to our daily newsletter and find out more at www.payloadspace.com</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 4 Oct 2022 13:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Astra's first launch of NASA’s TROPICS satellites ended in failure this summer. Shortly thereafter, Astra scrapped all flights for 2022 and accelerated its pivot to a larger, more capable launcher. As it moves customer payloads to the Rocket 4.0 manifest, Astra says it will launch scientific spacecraft for NASA that are comparable to TROPICS payloads.</p><p>All the while, shares of Astra have been in free-fall: $ASTR is -90% YTD. Chris still sounded a confident tone, saying the company has the cash to get to Rocket 4.0. Plus, “we have a tremendous number of assets sitting behind me that we've been using our balance sheet to fund,” Chris told us.</p><h2>*CHAPTERS* </h2><p>0:00 - Intro <br />5:40 - Astra's garage origins and what's changed in the last five years <br />9:43 - Falcon 9 → Falcon 9 .... and how Astra is responding to market demand in launch <br />12:40 - What’s the delta in "the three Cs" as Astra moves from 3.0 to 4.0? <br />16:39 - Chris dives into what’s needed for launching 4.0 <br />19:10 - How has Astra’s willingness to fail early and iterate helped them get to where they are today? <br />26:10 - An evolving approach to manufacturing, production, and launch operations <br />28:18 - The customer profile and civil, commercial, and military space split for Rocket 4.0 <br />31:47 - Take the Payload/SpiderOak space cyber survey <br />33:38 - IR with institutions and retail investors <br />37:46 - Ryan shares a Payload reader’s question (and concerns) about Astra's future <br />40:27 - Could a sale be in the cards? <br />44:32 - Where will Astra be 12 months from now? <br />49:43 - Hottest take, or most contrarian view, on space</p><h2>*SHOW NOTES* </h2><p>Astra’s website: https://astra.com/ </p><p>Chris’ Twitter: https://twitter.com/kemp </p><p>Astra’s investor updates: https://investor.astra.com/static-files/6492bebb-0313-4b4b-a52a-da29428239d9 | https://investor.astra.com/news-releases/news-release-details/astra-announces-spacecraft-engine-contract-airbus-oneweb </p><p>Astra’s Keynote Day: https://astra.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Astra-Spacetech-Day-Keynote-2022.pdf </p><h2>*ABOUT US* </h2><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand, and while we have designs on becoming the biggest space content company in the galaxy, for now, we publish:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, every Monday to Friday morning<br />2) Pathfinder, this podcast, on Tuesday mornings<br />3) ...and 💫Parallax!💫 on Thursday afternoons. </p><p>Parallax is our new weekly science newsletter for the space industry. Subscribe now so you can say you were early by signing up at parallax.beehiiv.com</p><p>Subscribe to our daily newsletter and find out more at www.payloadspace.com</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>The startup is promising the world, and then some, with two products to its name: Spacetime & Tightbeam. We bring Aalyria CTO Brian Barritt on the show this week to dig into the startup's vision.</p><h2>*CHAPTERS*</h2><p>0:00 — Live intro<br />0:34 — Aalyria has just emerged from stealth<br />4:17 — Brian's background<br />9:03 — Spacetime & Tightbeam<br />14:00 — Demoing the laser<br />18:41 — Air to ground, space to ground, ground to ground<br />20:15 — Acquiring Alphabet's tech & going independent <br />24:14 — Why now? <br />30:31 — Potential deep space applications <br />33:35 — What's derisked? And what's not?<br />38:40 — Commercial viability <br />43:29 — End of show Qs ... including the one we've all been dying to know Is Aalyria worried about aliens piggybacking off of its laser beams?</p><h2>*SHOW NOTES*</h2><p>Brian's Twitter: https://twitter.com/brianbarritt?lang=en</p><p>Aalyria's Twitter: https://twitter.com/AalyriaTech</p><p>Company website: https://www.aalyria.com/ (head here for more on Spacetime & Tightbeam)</p><p>Ryan's Twitter: https://twitter.com/Ryandoofy</p><h2>*DESCRIPTIONS*</h2><p>Spacetime description: "Spacetime is a software platform for orchestrating networks of ground stations, aircraft, satellites, ships, and urban meshes. It optimizes and continually evolves the antenna link scheduling, network traffic routing, and spectrum resources — responding in realtime to changing network requirements. Spacetime operates networks across land, sea, air, and space, at any altitude or orbit type, supports all radio frequency bands and optical wavelengths, and it is designed for interoperability with legacy, hybrid space, 5G NTN and FutureG network architectures."</p><p>Tightbeam description: "Tightbeam is the world's most advanced coherent light free space optics technology. At rates faster than any other solutions available today and covering greater distances than previously imagined, it moves data intact through the atmosphere and weather, and offers connectivity where no supporting infrastructure exists. Tightbeam radically improves satellite communications, Wi-Fi on planes and ships, and cellular connectivity everywhere."</p><h2>*ABOUT US*</h2><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand, and while we have designs on becoming the biggest space content company in the galaxy, for now, we publish:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, every Monday to Friday morning<br />2) Pathfinder, this podcast, on Tuesday mornings<br />3) ...and 💫Parallax!💫 on Thursday afternoons.</p><p>Parallax is our brand-spanking new weekly science newsletter for the space industry. Subscribe now so you can say you were early by signing up at parallax.beehiiv.com</p><p>And subscribe to our daily newsletter and find out more about Payload at www.payloadspace.com</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2022 13:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>mo@arkaeamedia.com (Arkaea Media (Payload | Ignition | Tectonic))</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The startup is promising the world, and then some, with two products to its name: Spacetime & Tightbeam. We bring Aalyria CTO Brian Barritt on the show this week to dig into the startup's vision.</p><h2>*CHAPTERS*</h2><p>0:00 — Live intro<br />0:34 — Aalyria has just emerged from stealth<br />4:17 — Brian's background<br />9:03 — Spacetime & Tightbeam<br />14:00 — Demoing the laser<br />18:41 — Air to ground, space to ground, ground to ground<br />20:15 — Acquiring Alphabet's tech & going independent <br />24:14 — Why now? <br />30:31 — Potential deep space applications <br />33:35 — What's derisked? And what's not?<br />38:40 — Commercial viability <br />43:29 — End of show Qs ... including the one we've all been dying to know Is Aalyria worried about aliens piggybacking off of its laser beams?</p><h2>*SHOW NOTES*</h2><p>Brian's Twitter: https://twitter.com/brianbarritt?lang=en</p><p>Aalyria's Twitter: https://twitter.com/AalyriaTech</p><p>Company website: https://www.aalyria.com/ (head here for more on Spacetime & Tightbeam)</p><p>Ryan's Twitter: https://twitter.com/Ryandoofy</p><h2>*DESCRIPTIONS*</h2><p>Spacetime description: "Spacetime is a software platform for orchestrating networks of ground stations, aircraft, satellites, ships, and urban meshes. It optimizes and continually evolves the antenna link scheduling, network traffic routing, and spectrum resources — responding in realtime to changing network requirements. Spacetime operates networks across land, sea, air, and space, at any altitude or orbit type, supports all radio frequency bands and optical wavelengths, and it is designed for interoperability with legacy, hybrid space, 5G NTN and FutureG network architectures."</p><p>Tightbeam description: "Tightbeam is the world's most advanced coherent light free space optics technology. At rates faster than any other solutions available today and covering greater distances than previously imagined, it moves data intact through the atmosphere and weather, and offers connectivity where no supporting infrastructure exists. Tightbeam radically improves satellite communications, Wi-Fi on planes and ships, and cellular connectivity everywhere."</p><h2>*ABOUT US*</h2><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand, and while we have designs on becoming the biggest space content company in the galaxy, for now, we publish:</p><p>1) Payload, our flagship daily newsletter, every Monday to Friday morning<br />2) Pathfinder, this podcast, on Tuesday mornings<br />3) ...and 💫Parallax!💫 on Thursday afternoons.</p><p>Parallax is our brand-spanking new weekly science newsletter for the space industry. Subscribe now so you can say you were early by signing up at parallax.beehiiv.com</p><p>And subscribe to our daily newsletter and find out more about Payload at www.payloadspace.com</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this week's episode, and our second dispatch from back-to-back space conferences in Paris, Ryan sits down with Redwire CEO and Chairman Peter Cannito, followed by an interview with Al Tadros, Redwire's chief technology officer. Redwire is a full-stack space infrastructure company based in Jacksonville, Florida, and publicly traded on the New York Stock Exchange ($RDW).</p><p>The first half of the podcast features our conversation with Peter, who is also an operating partner at AE Industrial Partners. The space-focused private equity player has more than $3 billion in assets under management and hatched Redwire in late 2020 by merging Adcole Space and Deep Space Systems, and has also backed Firefly, Sierra, and other big space names. With Peter, we discuss Redwire's M&A strategy, business roadmap, growth markets, investing in space, AE's central role in the space ecosystem, and the geopolitics of space. Peter has spent 25+ years in the defense, tech, and government contracting sectors, and was formerly the CEO of Polaris Alpha. He holds a bachelor's from U Delaware, an MBA from Maryland, and served as an officer in the US Marines.</p><p>The second half of today's episode features our conversation with Al, who makes strategic investments that support Redwire’s customer base, advance technology development, and further commercialization. Al has nearly three decades of experience as an aerospace executive and has straddled both business and technical leadership functions, which makes his perspective particularly unique and valuable. Prior to being named as CTO of Redwire earlier this year, Al was the company's chief growth officer and executive vice president of space infrastructure. Before Redwire, Al was VP of space infrastructure and and civil space at Maxar Technologies. Al holds a bachelor’s degree in aerospace engineering and a master’s in mechanical engineering from MIT.</p><p>Today's episode of Pathfinder is brought to you by SpiderOak Mission Systems, an industry leader in cybersecurity. Check out SpiderOak’s space cyber whitepaper at spacecyber.com</p><h2>*CHAPTERS*</h2><p>0:00 - Intro <br />2:30 - Show begins with Peter<br />4:49 - International expansion <br />7:08 - Square footage...correlated with company success? <br />9:07 - Operator + investor experience in space<br />14:30 - Space macro discussion <br />17:44 - Taking Redwire public via SPAC, and why not all space SPACs are created equal <br />22:02 - Peter’s take on geopolitical trends shaping space, and a modern-day space race with China<br />26:27 - Al joins + tells us about the Redwire CTO role <br />27:10 - His journey at Redwire and rising up the ranks <br />33:00 - Redwire's technology portfolio <br />35:07 - Robotics in space <br />38:47 - Flight-proven hardware, structures on the ISS, etc. <br />42:01 - Where is the European space sector headed?<br />45:00 - The space industry always has room for more fresh talent, including folks in non-technical roles</p><h2>*ABOUT US*</h2><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand. While we have designs on becoming the biggest space content company in the galaxy, for now, we publish Payload, our flagship newsletter, from Monday to Friday; Pathfinder, and Parallax. Parallax is our brand-spanking new weekly science newsletter for the space industry.</p><p>Subscribe now so you can say you were early by signing up at parallax.beehiiv.com</p><p>You can subscribe to our daily newsletter and find out more about Payload at payloadspace.com</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2022 12:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 7 Sep 2022 13:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>mo@arkaeamedia.com (Arkaea Media (Payload | Ignition | Tectonic))</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today's episode is brought to you by SpiderOak Mission Systems, an industry leader in space cybersecurity. Check them out at https://spideroak-ms.com/ and download the new NSR/SpiderOak sponsored whitepaper, titled “Space Cybersecurity – Current State and Future Needs,” at www.spacecyber.com</p><h2>*SNEAK PEEK*</h2><p>For starters, we get a status report on what Aquarian’s been up to over the last six months. But there’s plenty more on tap, such as: </p><ul><li>How Kelly landed at Aquarian, with a serial entrepreneur background and non-space resume</li><li>NASA’s Deep Space Network (DSN) and new opportunities with today’s technology</li><li>Going to market with CLPS (Commercial Lunar Payload Services) rovers and landers</li><li>What a lunar Wi-Fi network will look like and its first applications</li><li>The capital required for the initial network buildout</li><li>Is Kelly worried about aliens free-loading on Aquarian’s Wi-Fi?</li></ul><p>…and more! Come for the above topics, stay for ever-so-brief discussions of yoga and astrology (Ryan’s totally unbiased opinion: Aquarians rule).</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand. While we have designs on becoming the biggest space content company in the galaxy, for now, we send newsletters and publish podcasts. Subscribe to our flagship industry-leading daily newsletter at payloadspace.com</p><h2>*CHAPTERS*</h2><p>0:00 - Introduction<br />2:32 - Kelly’s love for space began when she grew up on a farm and was able to look up at the stars<br />6:49 - “Farm girl turned yoga entrepreneur turned space CEO.” The transformation that brought Kelly to the space industry<br />11:08 - Kelly’s take on joining Aquarian<br />13:24 - What problems is Aquarian setting out to solve? How are they approaching these issues?<br />18:14 - Aquarian’s launch strategy for their communications networks and the growing lunar economy<br />24:36 - What will Aquarian’s constellation look like? Kelly discusses the need to bring reliable service to Aquarian’s customers<br />29:11 - Eating the humble pie: how Kelly went about fundraising and pitching in the first round<br />34:46 - Space camps and mentorship<br />37:42 - Are there common backgrounds in the technical team at Aquarian?<br />41:33 - The logistics of being a space startup distributed across the US<br />45:14 - Kelly’s hottest take, or most contrarian view, of space<br />46:40 - Who are Kelly’s role models in the space industry? Will Kelly go to space one day?<br />51:33 - The concern for extraterrestrial life and having advanced network systems in space</p><h2>*ABOUT US*</h2><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand. While we have designs on becoming the biggest space content company in the galaxy, for now, we send newsletters and publish podcasts. Subscribe to our flagship industry-leading daily newsletter at payloadspace.com</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Our guest is Barry Matsumori, a space industry veteran who’s held exec roles at SpaceX, Virgin Orbit, and most recently, was CEO of BridgeComm. Barry’s now the COO of Impulse Space, which was started by SpaceX founding team member Tom Mueller.</p><p>Impulse is just a year old and it has only ~40 employees, making it all the more surprising when Impulse and Relativity said they’d partner to launch the first commercial Mars mission in the next available window (late 2024). We grill Barry on the specifics of the mission, and though it feels highly ambitious, it’s safe to say that you don’t want to bet against these teams.</p><p>Today's episode is brought to you by SpiderOak Mission Systems, an industry leader in space cybersecurity. Check them out at https://spideroak-ms.com/ and download the new NSR/SpiderOak sponsored whitepaper, titled “Space Cybersecurity – Current State and Future Needs,” at www.spacecyber.com</p><h2>*CHAPTERS*</h2><p>0:00 - Introduction<br />2:43 -Explaining what it was like to work for Qualcomm, a semiconductor company specializing in silicon chips used in mobile phones<br />5:20 - Barry’s unorthodox approach to higher education, starting with an undergraduate business degree and then pursuing a postgrad degree in engineering<br />9:05 - Defining new space<br />11:20 - The bread and butter of Impulse Space… finding ways to build infrastructure that allows space to become an enterprise<br />13:37 - Impulse Space aims to be a “last-mile” space transportation player. What does that mean and what does it look like?<br />17:56 - Discussion of Imulse’s development cycles and vertical integration<br />19:35 - Where does the startup recruit from? What does its headcount look like?<br />20:35 - Relativity and Space are working together to do what?!<br />25:10 - What still needs to happen or fall into place to make the Mars window in 2024?<br />31:16 - Orbital infrastructure is a prerequisite for more space commercialization (materials processing, pharma development, semiconductor manufacturing, etc.)<br />36:20 - How using LEO as a parking could usher in a more sustainable phase of space exploration (and return trips to Earth)<br />40:28 - Pulling in fresh talent from other industries versus recruiting from space competitors<br />44:07 - Pools of talent density around the US… From LA to Boston, and far beyond<br />47:26 - If all goes to plan, what will Impulse look like in 2024? What other missions will it be working on?<br />48:41 - Close of show … <i>Star Wars </i>or <i>Star Trek</i>? Are we alone? Will Barry go to space?</p><h2>*SHOW NOTES*</h2><p>Video referenced in episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuL7iYUNg6o&feature=emb_title</p><p>Impulse's website: https://www.impulsespace.com/</p><p>Barry's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/barry-matsumori-35676/</p><p>Mars mission details: https://www.impulsespace.com/mars</p><p>Q+A with partner Relativity: https://payloadspace.com/qa-with-tim-ellis-on-relativitys-mars-mission/</p><h2>*ABOUT US*</h2><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand. While we have designs on becoming the biggest space content company in the galaxy, for now, we send newsletters and publish podcasts. Subscribe to our flagship industry-leading daily newsletter at payloadspace.com</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2022 12:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Giuseppe is president at Red Cat Holdings ($RCAT) and founder of Skypersonic, which builds drones that can inspect and survey sites in high-risk, confined, or GPS-denied locations. Skypersonic's product enables remote operators to fly drones indoors 100% remotely and over the internet.</p><p>Previously, Giuseppe was responsible for the development of projects on behalf of the European Space Agency at Thales Alenia Space, and has been involved in development of space systems used at NASA and the European Space Agency (ESA). He studied Astronautical Engineering at the University “La Sapienza di Roma” and he achieved the Master of Science in Mechanical Engineering (MSME) at Engineering Faculty of Catania.</p><p>What's the space angle? Skypersonic just recently completed a 15-day set of testing its drone at Mt. Etna, an Italian volcano with Martian-esque terrain. Pilots in Houston flew Skypersonic's drones to demonstrate the feasibility of the technology in a Mars-like environment. In 2021, NASA awarded Skypersonic a five-year contract to provide drone and rover software, hardware, and services/support for the US space agency's simulated Mars mission.</p><h2>*CHAPTERS*</h2><p>0:00 - Introduction<br />4:27 - Giuseppe got into space at a very young age. Also, Ryan asks the question we’ve all been dying to know… <i>Star Trek</i> or <i>Star Wars</i>?<br />6:34 - The Italian space sector and working at Thales Alenia<br />11:24 - Starting simple…how’d Giuseppe come up with the name “Skypersonic”?<br />13:13 - The startup’s backstory and the art of the pivot<br />14:08 - 99% of all drones use GPS to fly – Skypersonic is building for the 1% share, and high-risk, highly complex situations and GPS-denied environments.<br />18:15 - “the pilot is important”<br />18:46 - A walkthrough of how drones connect to remote operation centers across the world. “Hopefully I can explain in a simple way, even if it’s super complex.”<br />26:32 - Spillovers from technology developed for space, now being used every day down here on Earth<br />30:57 - Skypersonic’s testing of its drones and remote operations at Mount Etna (an Italian volcano with a Martian-esque environment)<br />39:00 - Potential hiccups with using electrical propulsion systems on Mars. Also, spoiler alert, you can’t pilot helicopters on Mars from Earth<br />41:31 - Getting acquired by Red Cat Holdings, and what it’s like being on the management team of a publicly traded deeptech company<br />46:56 - Does Giuseppe have any advice for the space SPACs that are trying to tough it out in the public markets right now?<br />49:51 - Just a normal light question on this Tuesday morning: “Are we alone in the universe?” Giuseppe has worked on space telescopes searching for extraterrestrial planets, so we feel he’s qualified to answer this question.<br />52:04 - A once-in-a-generation renaissance and technological revival for space<br />53:40 - Giuseppe’s favorite off-the-radar Italian city</p><h2>*ABOUT US*</h2><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand. While we have designs on becoming the biggest space content company in the galaxy, for now, we send newsletters and publish podcasts. Subscribe to our flagship industry-leading daily newsletter at payloadspace.com</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2022 12:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>mo@arkaeamedia.com (Arkaea Media (Payload | Ignition | Tectonic))</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the end of 2023, Satellogic hopes to have 60+ satellites in orbit (and 200+ by 2025). The company made $4.2 million in 2021, the year it began selling and delivering imagery to customers.</p><p>Today’s Pathfinder is brought to you by SpiderOak Mission Systems (https://spideroak-ms.com/), an industry leader in cybersecurity. Check out the company’s space cyber whitepaper at spacecyber.com</p><h2>*CHAPTERS*</h2><p>0:00 - Intro<br />2:05 - Satellogic’s presence all over the world, from Buenos Aires to the Netherlands<br />4:35 - What does operating a multinational satellite company look like during a global pandemic? <br />6:34 - Emiliano has had the entrepreneurial bug from a young age, since he was programming computers as a 9 year old <br />10:42 - The inception story of Satellogic, building a more efficient way to observe Earth and remap the planet, all the way up until 2020<br />14:49 - What characteristics set Satellogic apart from other smallsat constellations? <br />20:22 - Sub meter resolution optical cameras and multispectral cameras being used in object identification and classification in Earth observation (EO)<br />24:53 - What role do sales and marketing play in reaching new customers in commercial markets?<br />31:01 - Emiliano’s list of technology and financial trends that made his business possible, from the canonical drop in launch costs to the standardization of launch interfaces and more<br />37:03 - What are your biggest bottlenecks or constraints: resolution limits or government regulations? <br />43:45 - What is a DSC, or dedicated satellite constellation? How does it tie in with space-as-a-service? And why might national governments want to tap DSCs? <br />46:33 - Satellogic’s operations over Ukraine and their efforts to aid the country and other NATO members <br />50:11 - Being a non-US company listed in the United States, and the positives and negatives of the decision to go public via SPAC (special purpose acquisition company) merger<br />55:12 - Emiliano’s hottest take, or most contrarian view, on the space industry…His answer The future of the space economy will match the economy on Planet Earth<br />56:27 - Will Emiliano’s daughter go on to work in the space industry? <br />57:26 - Advice for students, especially from the Global South, who are looking to break into the space industry</p><h2>*SHOW NOTES*</h2><p>Satellogic's website: https://satellogic.com/ <br />Emiliano's Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/earlkman?lang=en">https://twitter.com/earlkman?lang=en</a><br />Emiliano's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ekargieman/?originalSubdomain=ar <br />Payload's first Q+A with Emiliano: https://payloadspace.com/satellogic-interview/<br />Satellogic and Astraea Ukraine imagery collaboration: https://payloadspace.com/satellogic-and-astraea-create-platform-for-ukraine-imagery/<br />Satellogic launches new satellites on SpaceX's Transporter-4 mission: https://payloadspace.com/spacex-launches-transporter-4/<br />SpaceX's Transporter-5 mission: <a href="https://payloadspace.com/spacex-launches-transporter-5/">https://payloadspace.com/spacex-launches-transporter-5/</a></p><h2>*ABOUT US*</h2><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand. While we have designs on becoming the biggest space content company in the galaxy, for now, we send newsletters and publish podcasts. Subscribe to our flagship industry-leading daily newsletter at payloadspace.com</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>On today's episode of the Pathfinder podcast, we’re tackling the topic of space junk. We’re very fortunate to have Dr. Moriba Jah, one of the world’s foremost authorities on this topic, joining us this week.</p><p>Moriba is an astrodynamicist, space environmentalist, and associate professor of aerospace engineering and engineering mechanics at UT Austin (obligatory 'hook em' from Ryan). Moriba is also the chief scientist and cofounder of Privateer, with Alex Fielding and Steve “Woz” Wozniak. Privateer, which stayed highly secretive until relatively recently, bills itself as “a data and intelligence platform empowering the future of space sustainability.”</p><p>Today’s Pathfinder is brought to you by SpiderOak Mission Systems (www.spideroak-ms.com), an industry leader in cybersecurity.</p><p>In the simplest of terms, Moriba specializes in studying and predicting the motion of objects in space. It’s a hot topic at the moment, given recent uncontrolled spacecraft reentries, the growing pile of junk in LEO, and the rising importance of space domain awareness (SDA) and space traffic management (STM).</p><h2>*SNEAK PEEK*</h2><p>Moriba walks us through his framework for thinking about the orbital commons. Among other things, we discuss…</p><ul><li>The perception of risk and uncertainty</li><li>The criticality of accurate measurements</li><li>How, when, and where national governments are responsible and liable for debris build-up and the downstream consequences</li><li>The geopolitical calculus of maintaining the orbital commons, and the challenges of multilateral coordination</li><li>Moriba’s efforts to “recruit empathy” for space environmentalism and reach a wide swath of the general public</li><li>A tragedy of the orbital commons…but also, reasons to be optimistic</li></ul><p>In the back half of the episode, we focus on Privateer and work through the following questions:</p><ul><li>Where does the startup get its data and how could the wisdom of crowds come into play?</li><li>What does the tech stack look like?</li><li>How is Privateer thinking about its own orbital assets and hosted payloads? Where will it buy vs. build?</li><li>What types of organizations will be the power users of Privateer’s platform and the Wayfinder product, if the startup succeeds in its goal?</li></ul><p>Come for Moriba’s insightful takes on the serious matters at hand; stay for the dog cameo, keto detour, and wearable technology talk.</p><h2>*CHAPTERS*</h2><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beyj9AvuKQQ&t=0s">0:00</a> - Intro</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beyj9AvuKQQ&t=189s">3:09</a> - Moriba’s résumé … from hook ‘em to science committees to disarmament and advising the Scottish government  </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beyj9AvuKQQ&t=319s">5:19</a> - Explain it like I’m five: what’s astrodynamics? … and @<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beyj9AvuKQQ&t=431s"> 7:11</a>, same question but for space environmentalism. Moriba coined the term so he’s a good person to ask.  </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beyj9AvuKQQ&t=486s">8:06</a> - Space may be an abundant and limitless expanse, but from a resource consumption POV, especially in LEO, it is quite finite</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beyj9AvuKQQ&t=584s">9:44</a> - How do you feel about the influx of attention to orbital debris and LEO congestion in recent years?</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beyj9AvuKQQ&t=702s">11:42</a> - Are there parallels, theoretically speaking, between the Kessler Syndrome and planetary feedback loops that could be induced by runaway climate change? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beyj9AvuKQQ&t=876s">14:36</a> - Risk assessment, forecasting, pattern-matching, structured vs. unstructured data, building models, and “epistemic uncertainty” … and @<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beyj9AvuKQQ&t=1080s"> 18:00</a>, “You can’t know something better than its inherent randomness” </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beyj9AvuKQQ&t=1189s">19:49</a> - Overseeing our orbital commons is the quintessential international relations problem. With regards to taking ownership and cleaning up the mess, does the buck stop with national governments? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beyj9AvuKQQ&t=1499s">24:59</a> - Is there a new co-host of Pathfinder??? 🐶🐶🐶</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beyj9AvuKQQ&t=1568s">26:08</a> - What does reaching our carrying capacity of LEO look like? How many objects can be up there at once? Is it possible to even answer these questions? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beyj9AvuKQQ&t=1708s">28:28</a> - The dangers of mucking up key orbits </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beyj9AvuKQQ&t=1852s">30:52</a> - Privateer intro. Privateer was cofounded by the three amigos: Moriba, entrepreneur and Privateer CEO Alex Fielding, and Apple cofounder Steve “Woz” Wozniak </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beyj9AvuKQQ&t=2025s">33:45</a> - You have a near-real-time, open-access feed of objects around Earth on your website. Where are you pulling this data from? As it relates to your Wayfinder product, what’s unique about Privateer’s tech stack? In what ways is this an aggregation play? Are you making this data interoperable? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beyj9AvuKQQ&t=2364s">39:24</a> - Operationalizing and productizing Moriba’s life work through Privateer’s platform </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beyj9AvuKQQ&t=2447s">40:47</a> - Privateer will operate its own on-orbit assets</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beyj9AvuKQQ&t=2802s">46:42</a> - You’d have all the reasons in the world to be a jaded realist. Why aren’t you one? How do you stay optimistic? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beyj9AvuKQQ&t=3020s">50:20</a> - If you weren’t working in astrodynamics and aerospace, what would you be doing? And finally…favorite taco spot(s) in Austin?</p><h2>*ABOUT US*</h2><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand. 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      <pubDate>Tue, 9 Aug 2022 12:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>mo@arkaeamedia.com (Arkaea Media (Payload | Ignition | Tectonic))</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On today's episode of the Pathfinder podcast, we’re tackling the topic of space junk. We’re very fortunate to have Dr. Moriba Jah, one of the world’s foremost authorities on this topic, joining us this week.</p><p>Moriba is an astrodynamicist, space environmentalist, and associate professor of aerospace engineering and engineering mechanics at UT Austin (obligatory 'hook em' from Ryan). Moriba is also the chief scientist and cofounder of Privateer, with Alex Fielding and Steve “Woz” Wozniak. Privateer, which stayed highly secretive until relatively recently, bills itself as “a data and intelligence platform empowering the future of space sustainability.”</p><p>Today’s Pathfinder is brought to you by SpiderOak Mission Systems (www.spideroak-ms.com), an industry leader in cybersecurity.</p><p>In the simplest of terms, Moriba specializes in studying and predicting the motion of objects in space. It’s a hot topic at the moment, given recent uncontrolled spacecraft reentries, the growing pile of junk in LEO, and the rising importance of space domain awareness (SDA) and space traffic management (STM).</p><h2>*SNEAK PEEK*</h2><p>Moriba walks us through his framework for thinking about the orbital commons. Among other things, we discuss…</p><ul><li>The perception of risk and uncertainty</li><li>The criticality of accurate measurements</li><li>How, when, and where national governments are responsible and liable for debris build-up and the downstream consequences</li><li>The geopolitical calculus of maintaining the orbital commons, and the challenges of multilateral coordination</li><li>Moriba’s efforts to “recruit empathy” for space environmentalism and reach a wide swath of the general public</li><li>A tragedy of the orbital commons…but also, reasons to be optimistic</li></ul><p>In the back half of the episode, we focus on Privateer and work through the following questions:</p><ul><li>Where does the startup get its data and how could the wisdom of crowds come into play?</li><li>What does the tech stack look like?</li><li>How is Privateer thinking about its own orbital assets and hosted payloads? Where will it buy vs. build?</li><li>What types of organizations will be the power users of Privateer’s platform and the Wayfinder product, if the startup succeeds in its goal?</li></ul><p>Come for Moriba’s insightful takes on the serious matters at hand; stay for the dog cameo, keto detour, and wearable technology talk.</p><h2>*CHAPTERS*</h2><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beyj9AvuKQQ&t=0s">0:00</a> - Intro</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beyj9AvuKQQ&t=189s">3:09</a> - Moriba’s résumé … from hook ‘em to science committees to disarmament and advising the Scottish government  </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beyj9AvuKQQ&t=319s">5:19</a> - Explain it like I’m five: what’s astrodynamics? … and @<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beyj9AvuKQQ&t=431s"> 7:11</a>, same question but for space environmentalism. Moriba coined the term so he’s a good person to ask.  </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beyj9AvuKQQ&t=486s">8:06</a> - Space may be an abundant and limitless expanse, but from a resource consumption POV, especially in LEO, it is quite finite</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beyj9AvuKQQ&t=584s">9:44</a> - How do you feel about the influx of attention to orbital debris and LEO congestion in recent years?</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beyj9AvuKQQ&t=702s">11:42</a> - Are there parallels, theoretically speaking, between the Kessler Syndrome and planetary feedback loops that could be induced by runaway climate change? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beyj9AvuKQQ&t=876s">14:36</a> - Risk assessment, forecasting, pattern-matching, structured vs. unstructured data, building models, and “epistemic uncertainty” … and @<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beyj9AvuKQQ&t=1080s"> 18:00</a>, “You can’t know something better than its inherent randomness” </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beyj9AvuKQQ&t=1189s">19:49</a> - Overseeing our orbital commons is the quintessential international relations problem. With regards to taking ownership and cleaning up the mess, does the buck stop with national governments? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beyj9AvuKQQ&t=1499s">24:59</a> - Is there a new co-host of Pathfinder??? 🐶🐶🐶</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beyj9AvuKQQ&t=1568s">26:08</a> - What does reaching our carrying capacity of LEO look like? How many objects can be up there at once? Is it possible to even answer these questions? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beyj9AvuKQQ&t=1708s">28:28</a> - The dangers of mucking up key orbits </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beyj9AvuKQQ&t=1852s">30:52</a> - Privateer intro. Privateer was cofounded by the three amigos: Moriba, entrepreneur and Privateer CEO Alex Fielding, and Apple cofounder Steve “Woz” Wozniak </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beyj9AvuKQQ&t=2025s">33:45</a> - You have a near-real-time, open-access feed of objects around Earth on your website. Where are you pulling this data from? As it relates to your Wayfinder product, what’s unique about Privateer’s tech stack? In what ways is this an aggregation play? Are you making this data interoperable? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beyj9AvuKQQ&t=2364s">39:24</a> - Operationalizing and productizing Moriba’s life work through Privateer’s platform </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beyj9AvuKQQ&t=2447s">40:47</a> - Privateer will operate its own on-orbit assets</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beyj9AvuKQQ&t=2802s">46:42</a> - You’d have all the reasons in the world to be a jaded realist. Why aren’t you one? How do you stay optimistic? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beyj9AvuKQQ&t=3020s">50:20</a> - If you weren’t working in astrodynamics and aerospace, what would you be doing? And finally…favorite taco spot(s) in Austin?</p><h2>*ABOUT US*</h2><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand. While we have designs on becoming the biggest space content company in the galaxy, for now, we send newsletters and publish podcasts. Subscribe to our flagship industry-leading daily newsletter at payloadspace.com</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Today’s guest is Jordan Noone, the cofounder and founding CTO of Relativity Space. Noone now holds the same titles at Embedded Ventures, a self-described deeptech VC “skunkworks” that Noone runs with cofounder Jenna Bryant. Embedded Ventures has partnered with the US Space Force on R&D, and backed early-stage startups like Slingshot Aerospace and Inversion. Jordan is also the cofounder and CEO of KittyCAD, which aims to reinvent how engineers and companies create hardware products. </p><p>On the Relativity front, Jordan helped scale up the company’s additive manufacturing capabilities and hone the rest of the startup’s tech stack. Today, Relativity’s Terran 1 is vertical on the pad in Florida for final tests, before the company conducts an orbital launch attempt this summer. Terran 1 is a 110-foot-tall expendable rocket, and according to Relativity, the largest 3D printed object to exist and to attempt orbital flight. Relativity’s first Terran 1 is 85% 3D printed by mass.</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by SpiderOak Mission Systems, (http://www.spideroak-ms.com) an industry leader in space cybersecurity. Check out their space whitepaper at spacecyber.com</p><h2> *SNEAK PEEK*</h2><p>And now without further ado, here’s a glimpse into the range of discussion topics in today’s episode:</p><ul><li>Background in brief</li><li>Jordan’s rebellious streaks as a student and his take on medieval history</li><li>Heading up USC’s Rocket Propulsion Lab, a finishing school for rocket junkies</li><li>Interning, then working full-time, at SpaceX</li><li>Meeting cofounder Tim Ellis (who was on Pathfinder #0009)</li><li>Becoming the youngest person to get an FAA license to launch a rocket to space</li><li>Getting accepted into and graduating from Y Combinator (YC W16, to be exact)</li><li>The advantages of 3D printing combustion chambers, engines, and other rocket parts</li><li>All the other aspects of Relativity’s tech stack that differentiate it from other rocket makers</li><li>Why Jordan left Relativity after roughly five years</li><li>Bringing the design and product ethos of Silicon Valley to the world of defense</li><li>Graduating from startup founder to the other side of the boardroom table: VC investor</li><li>Market conditions and what Jordan’s seeing with pricing rounds, startup valuations, etc.</li><li>The downstream effects of space SPACs on future industry financing</li><li>Conflicted cap tables and the geopolitical aspects of venture capital</li><li>Leading KittyCAD, which brings software automation to the hardware world</li><li>Building the Stripe of the hardware world</li></ul><p>…and much more! This was a long one, and there’s plenty of other great nuggets and stories buried in the full episode. We’ll leave it to you to discover them yourselves.</p><h2>*CHAPTERS*</h2><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELmzTvMHPak&t=0s">0:00</a> - Intro and Jordan’s background in brief</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELmzTvMHPak&t=125s">02:05</a> - Rundown of Jordan’s résumé left of starting Relativity, from rebellious streaks as a student to his take on medieval history</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELmzTvMHPak&t=375s">06:15</a> - How did the USC administration react to a group of students trying to do something that few other countries, let alone college students, had ever done? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELmzTvMHPak&t=599s">09:59</a> - Meeting Tim Ellis, Relativity’s cofounder and current CEO (and a Pathfinder alum…Tim joined us on episode<a href="https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/0009"> #0009</a>)</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELmzTvMHPak&t=675s">11:15</a> - Interning, then working full-time, at SpaceX … and how SpaceX gives its early-stage employees an impressive amount of substantive projects. </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELmzTvMHPak&t=830s">13:50</a> - Jordan was the first student to receive what?!  </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELmzTvMHPak&t=844s">14:04</a> - One does not simply launch a rocket into space. We give a glimpse into the hoops that you need to jump through, from calling NORAD to filling out reams of legal paperwork, to launch a rocket into space</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELmzTvMHPak&t=1150s">19:10</a> - Starting a multi-billion dollar company at 22, cold-emailing Mark Cuban, and going through Y Combinator (Relativity was in the YC W16 batch)</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELmzTvMHPak&t=1421s">23:41</a> - Taking a deeper look into the positives and negatives of 3D printing. What are the technical advantages of 3D printing combustion chambers, engines, and other rocket parts? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELmzTvMHPak&t=1702s">28:22</a> - Transitioning from Relativity back to the earliest stages of company formation … “I was very hungry to go back to an earlier stage”</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELmzTvMHPak&t=1910s">31:50</a> - The genesis story of Embedded Ventures, how Jordan linked up with Embedded cofounder Jenna Bryant, and her backstory</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELmzTvMHPak&t=2092s">34:52</a> - A look at the all-mighty CFIUS (the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States)</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELmzTvMHPak&t=2164s">36:04</a> - Jordan frequently uses the term “clean capital.” What does he mean by that? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELmzTvMHPak&t=2660s">44:20</a> - Graduating from startup founder to the other side of the boardroom table: VC investor and first-time fund manager</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELmzTvMHPak&t=3151s">52:31</a> - Leading KittyCAD, which aims to brings software automation and manufacturing digitalization to the hardware world </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELmzTvMHPak&t=3330s">55:30</a> - Are the founders of KittyCAD cat people?</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELmzTvMHPak&t=3590s">59:50</a> - “If you can explain it to your grandmother, a venture capitalist will understand it”</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELmzTvMHPak&t=3844s">1:04:04</a> - Hot takes (or most contrarian views) on the space industry … spoiler alert: “we’re in the worst spot for encouraging national security entrance” </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELmzTvMHPak&t=4205s">1:10:05</a> - Jordan’s advice for students who want to break into the commercial space industry</p><h2>*ABOUT US*</h2><p>Today’s episode is Pathfinder #0010, which means we’ve made it into the double digits. So far, so good. We’ll see you soon at Pathfinder #0100.</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand that also publishes newsletters and hosts events around the US. Subscribe to our industry-leading daily newsletter at payloadspace.com</p><p>See you back here next week!</p>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today’s guest is Jordan Noone, the cofounder and founding CTO of Relativity Space. Noone now holds the same titles at Embedded Ventures, a self-described deeptech VC “skunkworks” that Noone runs with cofounder Jenna Bryant. Embedded Ventures has partnered with the US Space Force on R&D, and backed early-stage startups like Slingshot Aerospace and Inversion. Jordan is also the cofounder and CEO of KittyCAD, which aims to reinvent how engineers and companies create hardware products. </p><p>On the Relativity front, Jordan helped scale up the company’s additive manufacturing capabilities and hone the rest of the startup’s tech stack. Today, Relativity’s Terran 1 is vertical on the pad in Florida for final tests, before the company conducts an orbital launch attempt this summer. Terran 1 is a 110-foot-tall expendable rocket, and according to Relativity, the largest 3D printed object to exist and to attempt orbital flight. Relativity’s first Terran 1 is 85% 3D printed by mass.</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by SpiderOak Mission Systems, (http://www.spideroak-ms.com) an industry leader in space cybersecurity. Check out their space whitepaper at spacecyber.com</p><h2> *SNEAK PEEK*</h2><p>And now without further ado, here’s a glimpse into the range of discussion topics in today’s episode:</p><ul><li>Background in brief</li><li>Jordan’s rebellious streaks as a student and his take on medieval history</li><li>Heading up USC’s Rocket Propulsion Lab, a finishing school for rocket junkies</li><li>Interning, then working full-time, at SpaceX</li><li>Meeting cofounder Tim Ellis (who was on Pathfinder #0009)</li><li>Becoming the youngest person to get an FAA license to launch a rocket to space</li><li>Getting accepted into and graduating from Y Combinator (YC W16, to be exact)</li><li>The advantages of 3D printing combustion chambers, engines, and other rocket parts</li><li>All the other aspects of Relativity’s tech stack that differentiate it from other rocket makers</li><li>Why Jordan left Relativity after roughly five years</li><li>Bringing the design and product ethos of Silicon Valley to the world of defense</li><li>Graduating from startup founder to the other side of the boardroom table: VC investor</li><li>Market conditions and what Jordan’s seeing with pricing rounds, startup valuations, etc.</li><li>The downstream effects of space SPACs on future industry financing</li><li>Conflicted cap tables and the geopolitical aspects of venture capital</li><li>Leading KittyCAD, which brings software automation to the hardware world</li><li>Building the Stripe of the hardware world</li></ul><p>…and much more! This was a long one, and there’s plenty of other great nuggets and stories buried in the full episode. We’ll leave it to you to discover them yourselves.</p><h2>*CHAPTERS*</h2><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELmzTvMHPak&t=0s">0:00</a> - Intro and Jordan’s background in brief</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELmzTvMHPak&t=125s">02:05</a> - Rundown of Jordan’s résumé left of starting Relativity, from rebellious streaks as a student to his take on medieval history</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELmzTvMHPak&t=375s">06:15</a> - How did the USC administration react to a group of students trying to do something that few other countries, let alone college students, had ever done? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELmzTvMHPak&t=599s">09:59</a> - Meeting Tim Ellis, Relativity’s cofounder and current CEO (and a Pathfinder alum…Tim joined us on episode<a href="https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/0009"> #0009</a>)</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELmzTvMHPak&t=675s">11:15</a> - Interning, then working full-time, at SpaceX … and how SpaceX gives its early-stage employees an impressive amount of substantive projects. </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELmzTvMHPak&t=830s">13:50</a> - Jordan was the first student to receive what?!  </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELmzTvMHPak&t=844s">14:04</a> - One does not simply launch a rocket into space. We give a glimpse into the hoops that you need to jump through, from calling NORAD to filling out reams of legal paperwork, to launch a rocket into space</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELmzTvMHPak&t=1150s">19:10</a> - Starting a multi-billion dollar company at 22, cold-emailing Mark Cuban, and going through Y Combinator (Relativity was in the YC W16 batch)</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELmzTvMHPak&t=1421s">23:41</a> - Taking a deeper look into the positives and negatives of 3D printing. What are the technical advantages of 3D printing combustion chambers, engines, and other rocket parts? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELmzTvMHPak&t=1702s">28:22</a> - Transitioning from Relativity back to the earliest stages of company formation … “I was very hungry to go back to an earlier stage”</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELmzTvMHPak&t=1910s">31:50</a> - The genesis story of Embedded Ventures, how Jordan linked up with Embedded cofounder Jenna Bryant, and her backstory</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELmzTvMHPak&t=2092s">34:52</a> - A look at the all-mighty CFIUS (the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States)</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELmzTvMHPak&t=2164s">36:04</a> - Jordan frequently uses the term “clean capital.” What does he mean by that? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELmzTvMHPak&t=2660s">44:20</a> - Graduating from startup founder to the other side of the boardroom table: VC investor and first-time fund manager</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELmzTvMHPak&t=3151s">52:31</a> - Leading KittyCAD, which aims to brings software automation and manufacturing digitalization to the hardware world </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELmzTvMHPak&t=3330s">55:30</a> - Are the founders of KittyCAD cat people?</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELmzTvMHPak&t=3590s">59:50</a> - “If you can explain it to your grandmother, a venture capitalist will understand it”</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELmzTvMHPak&t=3844s">1:04:04</a> - Hot takes (or most contrarian views) on the space industry … spoiler alert: “we’re in the worst spot for encouraging national security entrance” </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELmzTvMHPak&t=4205s">1:10:05</a> - Jordan’s advice for students who want to break into the commercial space industry</p><h2>*ABOUT US*</h2><p>Today’s episode is Pathfinder #0010, which means we’ve made it into the double digits. So far, so good. We’ll see you soon at Pathfinder #0100.</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand that also publishes newsletters and hosts events around the US. Subscribe to our industry-leading daily newsletter at payloadspace.com</p><p>See you back here next week!</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>On today’s episode of Pathfinder, we’re joined by Tim Ellis, the CEO and cofounder of Relativity Space. Tim was in his twenties when he started Relativity Space with cofounder Jordan Noone six and a half years ago.</p><p>Fast forward to today. Relativity’s 3D-printed Terran 1 rocket is at the pad in Cape Canaveral and an orbital launch is “weeks away,” Tim tells us.</p><p>Relativity <i>also </i>recently announced that it’s secured more than $1.2B+ worth of launch agreements for the forthcoming, fully reusable Terran R rocket. There are more customer contract announcements to come, Tim says. In fact, just since we recorded 12 days ago, Relativity announced a highly ambitious<a href="https://payloadspace.com/qa-with-tim-ellis-on-relativitys-mars-mission/"> commercial Mars mission</a> with Impulse Space.</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by<a href="http://www.spideroak-ms.com/"> SpiderOak Mission Systems</a>, an industry leader in space cybersecurity.</p><h2>*SNEAK PEEK*</h2><ul><li>Tim’s non-linear path into aerospace at USC, where he was part of the first student group to launch a rocket to space and interned back-to-back-to-back at Blue Origin</li><li>Then, Tim and Jordan would go on to get accepted into Y Combinator, cold-email Mark Cuban, and successfully pitch their pre-revenue, pre-product startup to other big investors.</li><li>Relativity is scaling headcount quickly. Relativity had 100 employees before Covid; it now has 850 and expects to hit 1,000 soon.</li><li>The company is also ramping up production, having expanded into a 1M square foot facility in Long Beach, CA. “Our momentum towards Terran R is significant,” Tim says.</li><li>We walk through the unique parts of Relativity’s rocket-making stack, from propulsion to reusability to additive manufacturing.</li><li>3D printing is “the holy grail of automation technologies for aerospace,” Tim opines, and Relativity’s 3D printing efforts span a few hundred employees. Eventually, the company’s 3D printers may be useful in other industries.</li><li>We ask Tim how he’s navigating market turbulence and whether Relativity A) has taken a valuation haircut, B) will need to raise again soon, or C) if it ever considered going public via SPAC.</li><li>Tim shares his thoughts on the economics of launch and where the market is saturated vs. undersupplied.</li></ul><p>…and much more. Over the course of an hour, our conversation took us from writing novels and <i>Fight Club </i>to interplanetary travel and chilling on Mars with a Corona. We hope you’ll learn as much as we did.</p><h2>*CHAPTERS*</h2><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=0s">00:00</a> - Intro</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=83s">1:23</a> - Settling Tim's age, once and for all</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=303s">5:03</a> - A non-linear path into aerospace and Tim's passion for screenwriting and cinema</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=591s">9:51</a> - Joining USC Rocket Lab</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=680s">11:20</a> - Interning at Blue Origin back-to-back-to-back</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=768s">12:48</a> - What % of Relativity's employee base previously worked at SpaceX or Blue Origin?</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=842s">14:02</a> - "Several hundred person effort" working just on 3D printing ... and @<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=943s"> 15:43</a> the perks of 3D printing, "the holy grail of automation technologies for aerospace" </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=1052s">17:32</a> -  How the hell did you get Y Combinator to accept a rocket company? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=1116s">18:36</a> - Incorporating, cold-emailing Mark Cuban, Relativity's Y Combinator cohort, and the YC Mob 🙃</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=1267s">21:07</a> - How does a pre-revenue, pre-product rocket startup sell investors and what does it point to as a sign of progress or traction?</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=1403s">23:23</a> - Setting the scene for Relativity's first orbital launch attempt with the Terran 1 rocket from Cape Canaveral </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=1720s">28:40</a> - Relativity's tech stack </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=2185s">36:25</a> - Would Relativity consider selling 3D printers or making other large 3D-printed structures? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=2305s">38:25</a> - Surveying the launch landscape...Tim shares his thoughts on where the launch market is still undersupplied</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=2623s">43:43</a> - Relativity's $1.2 billion Terran R backlog is growing, with more commercial contracts to be announced </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=2887s">48:07</a> - How is Relativity navigating market turbulence and a potential R-word (recession)?</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=3155s">52:35</a> - Tim's testimony to Congress & recruiting for the commercial space industry and building mission-driven teams </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=3248s">54:08</a> - The cast of characters attracted by making life multiplanetary </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=3487s">58:07</a> - What's that behind Tim? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=3524s">58:44</a> - How does Tim use Twitter? </p><p>Relativity is scaling headcount quickly. Relativity had 100 employees before Covid; it now has 850 and expects to hit 1,000 soon. </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=3600s">1:00:00</a> - Getting swole like Jeff Bezos and staying in touch with his former boss</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=3666s">1:01:06</a> - Does Tim have plans to travel to the Red Planet one day himself?</p><h2>*ABOUT US*</h2><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand. While we have designs on becoming the biggest space content company in the galaxy, for now, we send newsletters and publish podcasts. Subscribe to our flagship industry-leading daily newsletter at payloadspace.com</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2022 12:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>mo@arkaeamedia.com (Arkaea Media (Payload | Ignition | Tectonic))</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On today’s episode of Pathfinder, we’re joined by Tim Ellis, the CEO and cofounder of Relativity Space. Tim was in his twenties when he started Relativity Space with cofounder Jordan Noone six and a half years ago.</p><p>Fast forward to today. Relativity’s 3D-printed Terran 1 rocket is at the pad in Cape Canaveral and an orbital launch is “weeks away,” Tim tells us.</p><p>Relativity <i>also </i>recently announced that it’s secured more than $1.2B+ worth of launch agreements for the forthcoming, fully reusable Terran R rocket. There are more customer contract announcements to come, Tim says. In fact, just since we recorded 12 days ago, Relativity announced a highly ambitious<a href="https://payloadspace.com/qa-with-tim-ellis-on-relativitys-mars-mission/"> commercial Mars mission</a> with Impulse Space.</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by<a href="http://www.spideroak-ms.com/"> SpiderOak Mission Systems</a>, an industry leader in space cybersecurity.</p><h2>*SNEAK PEEK*</h2><ul><li>Tim’s non-linear path into aerospace at USC, where he was part of the first student group to launch a rocket to space and interned back-to-back-to-back at Blue Origin</li><li>Then, Tim and Jordan would go on to get accepted into Y Combinator, cold-email Mark Cuban, and successfully pitch their pre-revenue, pre-product startup to other big investors.</li><li>Relativity is scaling headcount quickly. Relativity had 100 employees before Covid; it now has 850 and expects to hit 1,000 soon.</li><li>The company is also ramping up production, having expanded into a 1M square foot facility in Long Beach, CA. “Our momentum towards Terran R is significant,” Tim says.</li><li>We walk through the unique parts of Relativity’s rocket-making stack, from propulsion to reusability to additive manufacturing.</li><li>3D printing is “the holy grail of automation technologies for aerospace,” Tim opines, and Relativity’s 3D printing efforts span a few hundred employees. Eventually, the company’s 3D printers may be useful in other industries.</li><li>We ask Tim how he’s navigating market turbulence and whether Relativity A) has taken a valuation haircut, B) will need to raise again soon, or C) if it ever considered going public via SPAC.</li><li>Tim shares his thoughts on the economics of launch and where the market is saturated vs. undersupplied.</li></ul><p>…and much more. Over the course of an hour, our conversation took us from writing novels and <i>Fight Club </i>to interplanetary travel and chilling on Mars with a Corona. We hope you’ll learn as much as we did.</p><h2>*CHAPTERS*</h2><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=0s">00:00</a> - Intro</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=83s">1:23</a> - Settling Tim's age, once and for all</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=303s">5:03</a> - A non-linear path into aerospace and Tim's passion for screenwriting and cinema</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=591s">9:51</a> - Joining USC Rocket Lab</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=680s">11:20</a> - Interning at Blue Origin back-to-back-to-back</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=768s">12:48</a> - What % of Relativity's employee base previously worked at SpaceX or Blue Origin?</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=842s">14:02</a> - "Several hundred person effort" working just on 3D printing ... and @<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=943s"> 15:43</a> the perks of 3D printing, "the holy grail of automation technologies for aerospace" </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=1052s">17:32</a> -  How the hell did you get Y Combinator to accept a rocket company? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=1116s">18:36</a> - Incorporating, cold-emailing Mark Cuban, Relativity's Y Combinator cohort, and the YC Mob 🙃</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=1267s">21:07</a> - How does a pre-revenue, pre-product rocket startup sell investors and what does it point to as a sign of progress or traction?</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=1403s">23:23</a> - Setting the scene for Relativity's first orbital launch attempt with the Terran 1 rocket from Cape Canaveral </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=1720s">28:40</a> - Relativity's tech stack </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=2185s">36:25</a> - Would Relativity consider selling 3D printers or making other large 3D-printed structures? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=2305s">38:25</a> - Surveying the launch landscape...Tim shares his thoughts on where the launch market is still undersupplied</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=2623s">43:43</a> - Relativity's $1.2 billion Terran R backlog is growing, with more commercial contracts to be announced </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=2887s">48:07</a> - How is Relativity navigating market turbulence and a potential R-word (recession)?</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=3155s">52:35</a> - Tim's testimony to Congress & recruiting for the commercial space industry and building mission-driven teams </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=3248s">54:08</a> - The cast of characters attracted by making life multiplanetary </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=3487s">58:07</a> - What's that behind Tim? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=3524s">58:44</a> - How does Tim use Twitter? </p><p>Relativity is scaling headcount quickly. Relativity had 100 employees before Covid; it now has 850 and expects to hit 1,000 soon. </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=3600s">1:00:00</a> - Getting swole like Jeff Bezos and staying in touch with his former boss</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgT4JOJMaqQ&t=3666s">1:01:06</a> - Does Tim have plans to travel to the Red Planet one day himself?</p><h2>*ABOUT US*</h2><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand. While we have designs on becoming the biggest space content company in the galaxy, for now, we send newsletters and publish podcasts. Subscribe to our flagship industry-leading daily newsletter at payloadspace.com</p>
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      <title>Kevin Weil on Leading Product at Planet, Earth Observation, Going Public, and Ukraine</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Kevin joined Planet last April to accelerate software and data product development (or help the company move “up the stack”). Before he worked in commercial space, Kevin held leadership roles at Silicon Valley mainstays that have become household names, like Twitter and Instagram. He managed products with hundreds of millions of daily active users.</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by SpiderOak Mission Systems — www.spideroak-ms.com — an industry leader in space cybersecurity.</p><h2>*SNEAK PEEK*</h2><ul><li>Kevin’s journey from studying particle physics to Silicon Valley startups and quickly shipping code</li><li>Twitter’s leadership taking a chance on Kevin and how he grew with the company from 2009 to 2016</li><li>Working at an autonomous Instagram and eventually cofounding Meta’s cryptocurrency project</li><li>What convinced Kevin to jump ship to the new space industry?</li><li>How much of Kevin’s experience was transferable from the consumer social world to product at Planet?</li><li>Selling to governments vs. commercial users</li><li>The “one-to-many” model and what Planet does differently than competitors</li><li>Going public via SPAC and the pressures of being publicly traded</li><li>“Our growth is accelerating” and “we have a proven business model”</li><li>Acquiring VanderSat and launching Planetary Variables</li><li>Planet imagery shaping the general public’s understanding of the Ukraine war</li><li>“Bringing transparency is a massive positive, even if sometimes that means you capture some of the bad things that happen in the world.”</li><li>How does Planet prevent abuse or misuse of its data and imagery?</li><li>What does Kevin wish he could change overnight in the EO industry?</li></ul><p><br /> </p><h2>*CHAPTERS*</h2><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=0s">0:00</a> - Intro </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=120s">2:00</a> - Rundown of Kevin’s résumé, from studying particle physics to quickly shipping code at startups and eventually running product at consumer apps that became household names </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=259s">4:19</a> - Joining Twitter in ‘09…and growing with the company until he departed in ‘16 </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=307s">5:07</a> - Running product at Instagram, while the Facebook division was still relatively autonomous </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=427s">7:07</a> - What convinced Kevin to jump ship to the new space industry? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=551s">9:11</a> - Launching what into space?! Unpacking the tech tailwinds powering the cubesat and smallsat revolutions</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=711s">11:51</a> - A simple walkthrough of what Planet’s constellation does daily</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=810s">13:30</a> -  the Silicon Valley-style startup product management playbook…What cringe “best practices,” if any, did Kevin take from consumer social to Planet? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=907s">15:07</a> - Where is the EO (Earth observation) industry at today, in terms of maturity and adoption? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=1081s">18:01</a> - On selling to both governments and commercial users…and when the “flippening,” as Ryan calls it, may happen </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=1286s">21:26</a> - Expanding on Planet’s “one-to-many” model </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=1460s">24:20</a> - The trials and tribulations of being a publicly traded company</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=1670s">27:50</a> - Will SPAC turbulence have a lasting impact on future funding? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=1800s">30:00</a> - How Planet processes their data </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=1980s">33:00</a> - Case study: VanderSat acquisition and Planetary Variables</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=2123s">35:23</a> - Switching gears to Ukraine, and Planet imagery’s role in shaping the world’s understanding of what’s happening on the ground </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=2200s">36:40</a> - The value of the daily Earth-imaging scans, as it relates to Ukraine and Russian aggression</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=2275s">37:55</a> - The geopolitical value of unclassified commercial satellite imagery for governments, who can point to the data and say: “This happened. You don’t have to take our word for it.”</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=2515s">41:55</a> - Buzzfeed researchers noticing pixelated map tiles on Baidu, digging in to Planet data, and making an ugly discovery</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=2625s">43:45</a> - Mental health and content moderation</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=2775s">46:15</a> - What safeguards Planet puts in place to prevent abuse or misuse of its data </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=2910s">48:30</a> - Genie in a bottle question…What’s one thing that Kevin wishes could change overnight in the EO industry? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=3150s">52:30</a> - Will more engineers follow in Kevin’s footsteps, and move from Big Tech companies to commercial space? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=3606s">1:00:06</a>- Worlds colliding question…Will Elon end up owning Twitter?</p><h2>*SHOW NOTES*</h2><p>Kevin's Twitter handle:<a href="https://twitter.com/kevinweil"> twitter.com/kevinweil</a><br />Check out Planet’s Snapshots newsletter:<a href="https://learn.planet.com/Snapshots_newsletter_Subscription.html"> learn.planet.com/Snapshots_newsletter_Subscription.html</a><br />Via Planet CEO Will Marshall, announcing Kevin's hiring last March: planet.com/pulse/preparing-to-scale-planet-welcomes-kevin-weil-as-president-product-and-business/ - "It’s a delight that our business increasingly looks like that of a software company, with product features driven by software advances that deliver value on top of our satellite data. As Planet accelerates as a data and analytics company, we’re bringing on top Silicon Valley software talent to add to Planet’s team. Which brings me to Kevin.</p><p>Kevin is a proven leader with a track record of leading software and data product organizations through hyper-growth, and delivering market-making customer solutions — a mindset and body of experience that aligns perfectly with Planet’s high-growth business objectives.</p><p>Kevin has built and scaled teams and products at the world’s fastest growing and most consequential companies. Kevin was one of Twitter’s first 50 employees and ultimately became its SVP of Product, leading its consumer, developer, and monetization products as the company went public and scaled to over $2bn in revenue."</p><h2>*ABOUT US*</h2><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand. While we have designs on becoming the biggest space content company in the galaxy, for now, we send newsletters and publish podcasts. Subscribe to our flagship industry-leading daily newsletter at payloadspace.com</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2022 12:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>mo@arkaeamedia.com (Arkaea Media (Payload | Ignition | Tectonic))</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin joined Planet last April to accelerate software and data product development (or help the company move “up the stack”). Before he worked in commercial space, Kevin held leadership roles at Silicon Valley mainstays that have become household names, like Twitter and Instagram. He managed products with hundreds of millions of daily active users.</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by SpiderOak Mission Systems — www.spideroak-ms.com — an industry leader in space cybersecurity.</p><h2>*SNEAK PEEK*</h2><ul><li>Kevin’s journey from studying particle physics to Silicon Valley startups and quickly shipping code</li><li>Twitter’s leadership taking a chance on Kevin and how he grew with the company from 2009 to 2016</li><li>Working at an autonomous Instagram and eventually cofounding Meta’s cryptocurrency project</li><li>What convinced Kevin to jump ship to the new space industry?</li><li>How much of Kevin’s experience was transferable from the consumer social world to product at Planet?</li><li>Selling to governments vs. commercial users</li><li>The “one-to-many” model and what Planet does differently than competitors</li><li>Going public via SPAC and the pressures of being publicly traded</li><li>“Our growth is accelerating” and “we have a proven business model”</li><li>Acquiring VanderSat and launching Planetary Variables</li><li>Planet imagery shaping the general public’s understanding of the Ukraine war</li><li>“Bringing transparency is a massive positive, even if sometimes that means you capture some of the bad things that happen in the world.”</li><li>How does Planet prevent abuse or misuse of its data and imagery?</li><li>What does Kevin wish he could change overnight in the EO industry?</li></ul><p><br /> </p><h2>*CHAPTERS*</h2><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=0s">0:00</a> - Intro </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=120s">2:00</a> - Rundown of Kevin’s résumé, from studying particle physics to quickly shipping code at startups and eventually running product at consumer apps that became household names </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=259s">4:19</a> - Joining Twitter in ‘09…and growing with the company until he departed in ‘16 </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=307s">5:07</a> - Running product at Instagram, while the Facebook division was still relatively autonomous </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=427s">7:07</a> - What convinced Kevin to jump ship to the new space industry? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=551s">9:11</a> - Launching what into space?! Unpacking the tech tailwinds powering the cubesat and smallsat revolutions</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=711s">11:51</a> - A simple walkthrough of what Planet’s constellation does daily</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=810s">13:30</a> -  the Silicon Valley-style startup product management playbook…What cringe “best practices,” if any, did Kevin take from consumer social to Planet? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=907s">15:07</a> - Where is the EO (Earth observation) industry at today, in terms of maturity and adoption? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=1081s">18:01</a> - On selling to both governments and commercial users…and when the “flippening,” as Ryan calls it, may happen </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=1286s">21:26</a> - Expanding on Planet’s “one-to-many” model </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=1460s">24:20</a> - The trials and tribulations of being a publicly traded company</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=1670s">27:50</a> - Will SPAC turbulence have a lasting impact on future funding? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=1800s">30:00</a> - How Planet processes their data </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=1980s">33:00</a> - Case study: VanderSat acquisition and Planetary Variables</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=2123s">35:23</a> - Switching gears to Ukraine, and Planet imagery’s role in shaping the world’s understanding of what’s happening on the ground </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=2200s">36:40</a> - The value of the daily Earth-imaging scans, as it relates to Ukraine and Russian aggression</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=2275s">37:55</a> - The geopolitical value of unclassified commercial satellite imagery for governments, who can point to the data and say: “This happened. You don’t have to take our word for it.”</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=2515s">41:55</a> - Buzzfeed researchers noticing pixelated map tiles on Baidu, digging in to Planet data, and making an ugly discovery</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=2625s">43:45</a> - Mental health and content moderation</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=2775s">46:15</a> - What safeguards Planet puts in place to prevent abuse or misuse of its data </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=2910s">48:30</a> - Genie in a bottle question…What’s one thing that Kevin wishes could change overnight in the EO industry? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=3150s">52:30</a> - Will more engineers follow in Kevin’s footsteps, and move from Big Tech companies to commercial space? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOS7GhdDBMg&t=3606s">1:00:06</a>- Worlds colliding question…Will Elon end up owning Twitter?</p><h2>*SHOW NOTES*</h2><p>Kevin's Twitter handle:<a href="https://twitter.com/kevinweil"> twitter.com/kevinweil</a><br />Check out Planet’s Snapshots newsletter:<a href="https://learn.planet.com/Snapshots_newsletter_Subscription.html"> learn.planet.com/Snapshots_newsletter_Subscription.html</a><br />Via Planet CEO Will Marshall, announcing Kevin's hiring last March: planet.com/pulse/preparing-to-scale-planet-welcomes-kevin-weil-as-president-product-and-business/ - "It’s a delight that our business increasingly looks like that of a software company, with product features driven by software advances that deliver value on top of our satellite data. As Planet accelerates as a data and analytics company, we’re bringing on top Silicon Valley software talent to add to Planet’s team. Which brings me to Kevin.</p><p>Kevin is a proven leader with a track record of leading software and data product organizations through hyper-growth, and delivering market-making customer solutions — a mindset and body of experience that aligns perfectly with Planet’s high-growth business objectives.</p><p>Kevin has built and scaled teams and products at the world’s fastest growing and most consequential companies. Kevin was one of Twitter’s first 50 employees and ultimately became its SVP of Product, leading its consumer, developer, and monetization products as the company went public and scaled to over $2bn in revenue."</p><h2>*ABOUT US*</h2><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand. While we have designs on becoming the biggest space content company in the galaxy, for now, we send newsletters and publish podcasts. 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      <itunes:summary>On this week&apos;s episode of the Pathfinder podcast, Ryan sits down with Kevin Weil, president of product and business at Planet ($PL), a ~$1.3B Earth-imaging company based in San Francisco.
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Pathfinder is brought to you by<a href="http://www.spideroak-ms.com/"> SpiderOak Mission Systems</a> — www.spideroak-ms.com — an industry leader in space cybersecurity. Check out the company’s space cybersecurity white paper at spacecyber.com</p><h2>*SNEAK PEEK*</h2><ul><li>Tom's resume. He spent a few decades rising through the ranks and eventually served as president of Northrop Grumman’s aerospace unit before he moved into startupland.</li><li>What he <i>can </i>talk about from his Northrop days (ie, what's been declassified) vs. what still requires a security clearance</li><li>Air and space are the proving ground for autonomy technologies</li><li>Why did the space company spin out of Sierra Nevada Corp. last year?</li><li>Sierra Space's cap table and fortifying the balance sheet before a market downtown</li><li>The space platform play...Dream Chaser is the transportation, Orbital Reef is the destination, and then there's all the space applications</li><li>What's the best historical precedent or analogy for where the space industry is at in this moment in time?</li><li>Tom's visions for the future, with a constellation of private space stations and thousands living and working in space</li><li>Sierra's growth from 1,000 employees at the end of 2021 to 1,800+ now</li><li><i>For All Mankind</i></li><li>When is Tom going to space?</li></ul><p>The two parts of the bio we discuss: <br />1) "It is amazing to me that today we are flying at the same speed we were in 1958 when the Boeing 707 was introduced. In general aviation, the speed of the aircraft has only improved by 10% over 50 years."<br />2) "We will enable humanity to live, work, explore, and vacation in Space!"</p><p>...and more. There's plenty of mind-boggling bits baked into this conversation, from manipulating the electromagnetic spectrum to peering back in time with JWST to Tom's concept for an Asian fusion restaurant in low-Earth orbit.</p><h2>*CHAPTERS*</h2><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUancQSQCf0&t=0s">0:00</a> - Intro </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUancQSQCf0&t=120s">2:00</a> - Tom’s résumé</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUancQSQCf0&t=255s">4:15</a> - Most guidance systems rely heavily on air and space</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUancQSQCf0&t=510s">8:30</a> - Sierra Space spins out from Sierra Nevada </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUancQSQCf0&t=590s">9:50</a>  - A **massive** $1.4B Series A</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUancQSQCf0&t=765s">12:45</a> - Being a unique space and technology company</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUancQSQCf0&t=925s">15:25</a> - Still bringing people back from space the same way we did in the ‘60s </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUancQSQCf0&t=1115s">18:35</a> - Capturing Apple’s platform play </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUancQSQCf0&t=1210s">20:10</a> - Sierra is building a value ecosystem </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUancQSQCf0&t=1325s">22:05</a> - What makes the period of time we’re currently in so profound?</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUancQSQCf0&t=1560s">26:00</a> - Is “early internet age” the right analogy for space? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUancQSQCf0&t=1709s">28:29</a> - Low-cost transportation lowers barriers to LEO </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUancQSQCf0&t=1970s">32:50</a> - Making low earth orbit (LEO) accessible and affordable </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUancQSQCf0&t=2235s">37:15</a> - There’s something extraordinary about the Pale Blue Dot</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUancQSQCf0&t=2410s">40:10</a> - Understanding the significance of Earth</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUancQSQCf0&t=2510s">41:50</a> - ‘For All Mankind’ </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUancQSQCf0&t=2633s">43:53</a> - When is Tom going to space?</p><h2>*SHOW NOTES*</h2><p>Tom's LinkedIn bio: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomvice/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomvice/</a></p><h2>*ABOUT US*</h2><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand. While we have designs on becoming the biggest space content company in the galaxy, for now, we send newsletters and publish podcasts. Subscribe to our flagship industry-leading daily newsletter at payloadspace.com</p>
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      <author>mo@arkaeamedia.com (Arkaea Media (Payload | Ignition | Tectonic))</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pathfinder is brought to you by<a href="http://www.spideroak-ms.com/"> SpiderOak Mission Systems</a> — www.spideroak-ms.com — an industry leader in space cybersecurity. Check out the company’s space cybersecurity white paper at spacecyber.com</p><h2>*SNEAK PEEK*</h2><ul><li>Tom's resume. He spent a few decades rising through the ranks and eventually served as president of Northrop Grumman’s aerospace unit before he moved into startupland.</li><li>What he <i>can </i>talk about from his Northrop days (ie, what's been declassified) vs. what still requires a security clearance</li><li>Air and space are the proving ground for autonomy technologies</li><li>Why did the space company spin out of Sierra Nevada Corp. last year?</li><li>Sierra Space's cap table and fortifying the balance sheet before a market downtown</li><li>The space platform play...Dream Chaser is the transportation, Orbital Reef is the destination, and then there's all the space applications</li><li>What's the best historical precedent or analogy for where the space industry is at in this moment in time?</li><li>Tom's visions for the future, with a constellation of private space stations and thousands living and working in space</li><li>Sierra's growth from 1,000 employees at the end of 2021 to 1,800+ now</li><li><i>For All Mankind</i></li><li>When is Tom going to space?</li></ul><p>The two parts of the bio we discuss: <br />1) "It is amazing to me that today we are flying at the same speed we were in 1958 when the Boeing 707 was introduced. In general aviation, the speed of the aircraft has only improved by 10% over 50 years."<br />2) "We will enable humanity to live, work, explore, and vacation in Space!"</p><p>...and more. There's plenty of mind-boggling bits baked into this conversation, from manipulating the electromagnetic spectrum to peering back in time with JWST to Tom's concept for an Asian fusion restaurant in low-Earth orbit.</p><h2>*CHAPTERS*</h2><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUancQSQCf0&t=0s">0:00</a> - Intro </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUancQSQCf0&t=120s">2:00</a> - Tom’s résumé</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUancQSQCf0&t=255s">4:15</a> - Most guidance systems rely heavily on air and space</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUancQSQCf0&t=510s">8:30</a> - Sierra Space spins out from Sierra Nevada </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUancQSQCf0&t=590s">9:50</a>  - A **massive** $1.4B Series A</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUancQSQCf0&t=765s">12:45</a> - Being a unique space and technology company</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUancQSQCf0&t=925s">15:25</a> - Still bringing people back from space the same way we did in the ‘60s </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUancQSQCf0&t=1115s">18:35</a> - Capturing Apple’s platform play </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUancQSQCf0&t=1210s">20:10</a> - Sierra is building a value ecosystem </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUancQSQCf0&t=1325s">22:05</a> - What makes the period of time we’re currently in so profound?</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUancQSQCf0&t=1560s">26:00</a> - Is “early internet age” the right analogy for space? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUancQSQCf0&t=1709s">28:29</a> - Low-cost transportation lowers barriers to LEO </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUancQSQCf0&t=1970s">32:50</a> - Making low earth orbit (LEO) accessible and affordable </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUancQSQCf0&t=2235s">37:15</a> - There’s something extraordinary about the Pale Blue Dot</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUancQSQCf0&t=2410s">40:10</a> - Understanding the significance of Earth</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUancQSQCf0&t=2510s">41:50</a> - ‘For All Mankind’ </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUancQSQCf0&t=2633s">43:53</a> - When is Tom going to space?</p><h2>*SHOW NOTES*</h2><p>Tom's LinkedIn bio: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomvice/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomvice/</a></p><h2>*ABOUT US*</h2><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand. While we have designs on becoming the biggest space content company in the galaxy, for now, we send newsletters and publish podcasts. Subscribe to our flagship industry-leading daily newsletter at payloadspace.com</p>
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      <itunes:title>The Orbital Age: Sierra Space&apos;s Tom Vice on Dream Chaser, Orbital Reef, and His Space Restaurant</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:summary>On this week&apos;s episode of the Pathfinder podcast, Ryan sits down with Sierra Space CEO Tom Vice. His one-year anniversary as chief executive is one week from today (July 19). In the last year, Sierra has:
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- Announced that it will build the Orbital Reef space station with Blue Origin, Boeing, Redwire, and others.
- Readied Dream Chaser for its first orbital flight and identified new runways around the world for the spaceplane to land.
- Created an astronaut program, led by company president and former NASA astronaut Janet Kavandi.
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- Announced that it will build the Orbital Reef space station with Blue Origin, Boeing, Redwire, and others.
- Readied Dream Chaser for its first orbital flight and identified new runways around the world for the spaceplane to land.
- Created an astronaut program, led by company president and former NASA astronaut Janet Kavandi.
So, needless to say, Sierra has been keeping busy. We couldn&apos;t have picked a better time to talk with Tom and check in on the company&apos;s progress.
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the fifth episode of Pathfinder, a weekly show where Payload managing editor and host Ryan Duffy sits down with the top shot-callers in space.</p><p>Per Escaping Gravity’s cover description, “from inside the space agency, Garver collaborated with key players such as Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, and President Obama to usher in a more peaceful, inclusive and meaningful space age.” Lori led the NASA transition team for then-President-elect Barack Obama and would eventually go on to be the second-in-command at the US space agency. During her tenure, Lori was widely credited for ushering in a new era of competition in commercial space.</p><p>Now, Lori is a Senior Fellow at Harvard Kennedy School’s Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, an Executive in Residence at Bessemer Venture Partners, and a member of the Board of Directors for Hydrosat. Garver founded Earthrise Alliance, a philanthropic organization utilizing satellite data to address climate change, and cofounded the Brooke Owens Fellowship, an internship and mentorship program for collegiate women.</p><p>Thanks to Lori for coming on Pathfinder, and for being our third video interview! And thanks to SpiderOak Mission Systems for their continued support.</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by<a href="http://www.spideroak-ms.com/"> SpiderOak Mission Systems</a> — www.spideroak-ms.com — an industry leader in space cybersecurity. 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And SLS & Orion” </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqHw3BykFEo&t=1188s">19:48</a> - NASA’s purposes include commercial space development</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqHw3BykFEo&t=1390s">23:10</a> - What are cup boys?!</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqHw3BykFEo&t=1509s">25:09</a> - Transferring from NASA to industry, aka the revolving door, is “a cycle that’s unhealthy for our nation’s space program” </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqHw3BykFEo&t=1685s">28:05</a> - What are Lori’s key performance indicators (KPIs)</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqHw3BykFEo&t=2000s">33:20</a> - Lori on the difficulties of leaving NASA</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqHw3BykFEo&t=2224s">37:04</a> - Unpacking “Political science can often be more complicated than rocket science”</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqHw3BykFEo&t=2490s">41:30</a> - You don't need a technical background to get into the space industry!</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqHw3BykFEo&t=2729s">45:29</a> - Who are the space pirates and space elites now? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqHw3BykFEo&t=2944s">49:04</a> - Convergence between space and tech industries, and how/whether the two are competing for talent</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqHw3BykFEo&t=3180s">53:00</a> - Lori’s thoughts on diversifying the space industry and how thinking differently can drive positive change </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqHw3BykFEo&t=3376s">56:16</a> - Are we going to have an animal metric system for measuring asteroids?</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqHw3BykFEo&t=3545s">59:05</a> - Lori’s experience training for space, singing John Denver to help her stay calm during the spinning chair</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqHw3BykFEo&t=3760s">1:02:40</a>- When will Lori go to space?</p><h2>*SHOW NOTES*</h2><p>If you’d like to order a copy of Escaping Gravity, you can find one from a range of retailers at<a href="http://www.lorigarver.com/"> www.lorigarver.com</a>.</p><p>For a signed copy, reach out to East City Books at<a href="http://www.eastcitybookshop.com/pre-orders/lori-garver-escaping-gravity"> www.eastcitybookshop.com/pre-orders/lori-garver-escaping-gravity</a></p><p>Lori’s socials: @Lori_Garver</p><h2>*ABOUT US*</h2><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand. 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      <author>mo@arkaeamedia.com (Arkaea Media (Payload | Ignition | Tectonic))</author>
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She was also a general assignment reporter for the Washington Post before moving out to Silicon Valley and started her investing career.</p><p>Disclaimer, via a16z: "The content here is for informational purposes only and should not be taken as legal, business, tax, or investment advice, or be used to evaluate any investment or security and is not directed at any investors or potential investors in any a16z fund."</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by SpiderOak Mission Systems — www.spideroak-ms.com — an industry leader in space cybersecurity. Check out their space cybersecurity white paper at <a href="http://www.spacecyber.com">www.spacecyber.com</a></p><h2>*CHAPTERS*</h2><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=0s">0:00</a> - intro</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=155s">2:35</a> - From pre-Bezos WaPo to B-school to venture investing</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=222s">3:42</a> - Culture shock of Silicon Valley and trying to “figure out the story I saw in front of me”</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=340s">5:40</a> - Joining a16z and defining the American Dynamism thesis </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=480s">8:00</a> - No more tyranny of geography (Katherine is in Miami!)</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=615s">10:15</a> - VC + Silicon Valley exports to the world</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=790s">13:10</a> - “It is our goal that every firm has an American Dynamism practice”</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=900s">15:00</a> - The false dichotomy of atoms & bits  (not mutually exclusive) … and @<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=915s"> 15:15</a>, Palmer Luckey (founder of Oculus & Anduril) as case study  </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=945s">15:45</a> - a16z Cofounder Marc Andreessen’s canonical pieces - “Software is eating the world” in 2011 and “it’s time to build” in 2020 - converging </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=1080s">18:00</a> - Building in digital vs. physical worlds </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=1205s">20:05</a> - Space is no longer a niche specialized area of investment</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=1305s">21:45</a> - VCs enabling commercial space sector and government/DoD serving as key initial first customers to help startups get through the “valley of death” </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=1360s">22:40</a> - Governments as customers vs. competitors </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=1390s">23:10</a> - You can sell to government and move into enterprise, but you can also build a large enough business just selling to “US government and her allies” </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=1483s">24:43</a> - Dual-use technology, Silicon Valley working with the Pentagon, and Russia-Ukraine war as a catalyst for more cooperation? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=1650s">27:30</a> - Defense as bipartisan issue then…to national security as ESG </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=1800s">30:00</a> - How can A&D startups compete with Big Tech for talent? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=2060s">34:20</a> - Hardware-software hybrids, standing up new A&D company models, and sharing the playbook by “building in public” … talent not only going to Big Tech or academia, but into companies like SpaceX, Anduril, and Hadrian, and then starting companies of their own</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=2130s">35:30</a> - The role of storytelling in startup success … and @<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=2195s"> 36:35</a>, having “an extraordinary storyteller at the helm” … @<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=2250s">37:30</a>, motivating teams through common missions and authentic storytelling </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=2280s">38:00</a> - Hadrian investment. 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And how are you going to recruit the team? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=2900s">48:20</a> - Criticism of space exploration has been a constant since the inception of the US’s space program … but @<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=2940s"> 49:00</a>, space is cool again! We’ve moved to a world where people see space as cool again. </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=3008s">50:08</a> - Katherine’s predictions on the future of space exploration … “I don’t think people realize how fast it’s going to be here.”</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=3090s">51:30</a> - Family conversations on leaving Earth?!</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=3165s">52:45</a> - Does a16z have a full-time chief meme officer yet?</p><h2>*ABOUT US*</h2><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand. 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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the fourth episode of Pathfinder, a weekly show where Payload managing editor and host Ryan Duffy sits down with the top shot-callers in space.</p><p>Katherine is a prolific writer and deep thinker on aerospace and defense, the US national interest, dual-use technology, and the relationship between Silicon Valley and Washington. As you can see below, we had a wide-ranging conversation on Pathfinder 0004.</p><p>Prior to a16z, Katherine was a partner at General Catalyst, and before that, cut her VC teeth at Founders Fund. She was also a general assignment reporter for the Washington Post before moving out to Silicon Valley and started her investing career.</p><p>Disclaimer, via a16z: "The content here is for informational purposes only and should not be taken as legal, business, tax, or investment advice, or be used to evaluate any investment or security and is not directed at any investors or potential investors in any a16z fund."</p><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by SpiderOak Mission Systems — www.spideroak-ms.com — an industry leader in space cybersecurity. Check out their space cybersecurity white paper at <a href="http://www.spacecyber.com">www.spacecyber.com</a></p><h2>*CHAPTERS*</h2><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=0s">0:00</a> - intro</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=155s">2:35</a> - From pre-Bezos WaPo to B-school to venture investing</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=222s">3:42</a> - Culture shock of Silicon Valley and trying to “figure out the story I saw in front of me”</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=340s">5:40</a> - Joining a16z and defining the American Dynamism thesis </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=480s">8:00</a> - No more tyranny of geography (Katherine is in Miami!)</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=615s">10:15</a> - VC + Silicon Valley exports to the world</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=790s">13:10</a> - “It is our goal that every firm has an American Dynamism practice”</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=900s">15:00</a> - The false dichotomy of atoms & bits  (not mutually exclusive) … and @<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=915s"> 15:15</a>, Palmer Luckey (founder of Oculus & Anduril) as case study  </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=945s">15:45</a> - a16z Cofounder Marc Andreessen’s canonical pieces - “Software is eating the world” in 2011 and “it’s time to build” in 2020 - converging </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=1080s">18:00</a> - Building in digital vs. physical worlds </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=1205s">20:05</a> - Space is no longer a niche specialized area of investment</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=1305s">21:45</a> - VCs enabling commercial space sector and government/DoD serving as key initial first customers to help startups get through the “valley of death” </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=1360s">22:40</a> - Governments as customers vs. competitors </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=1390s">23:10</a> - You can sell to government and move into enterprise, but you can also build a large enough business just selling to “US government and her allies” </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=1483s">24:43</a> - Dual-use technology, Silicon Valley working with the Pentagon, and Russia-Ukraine war as a catalyst for more cooperation? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=1650s">27:30</a> - Defense as bipartisan issue then…to national security as ESG </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=1800s">30:00</a> - How can A&D startups compete with Big Tech for talent? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=2060s">34:20</a> - Hardware-software hybrids, standing up new A&D company models, and sharing the playbook by “building in public” … talent not only going to Big Tech or academia, but into companies like SpaceX, Anduril, and Hadrian, and then starting companies of their own</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=2130s">35:30</a> - The role of storytelling in startup success … and @<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=2195s"> 36:35</a>, having “an extraordinary storyteller at the helm” … @<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=2250s">37:30</a>, motivating teams through common missions and authentic storytelling </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqhyE6jB2jo&t=2280s">38:00</a> - Hadrian investment. 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While we have designs on becoming the biggest space content company in the galaxy, for now, we send newsletters and publish podcasts. Subscribe to our flagship industry-leading daily newsletter at payloadspace.com</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2022 12:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>mo@arkaeamedia.com (Arkaea Media (Payload | Ignition | Tectonic))</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the third episode of Pathfinder, a weekly show where Payload managing editor and host Ryan Duffy sits down with the top shot-callers in space.</p><p>Joining us this week is Lauren Lyons, a space industry consultant, startup advisor, and STEM evangelist. Lauren is working on a new venture, but most recently, was COO of Firefly Aerospace.</p><p>Before that, Lauren held senior engineering roles at Blue Origin and SpaceX. While at Blue, Lauren worked on the company’s lunar lander and Orbital Reef programs.</p><p>At SpaceX, Lauren worked on the development/certification of Crew Dragon; the launch of Starlink; chief engineering and mission assurance for Falcon 9 and Dragon; and Falcon 9 mission management. Rather casually, she also hosted launch livestreams for a variety of missions, including the Emmy-winning Demo 1. She makes a cameo on Return to Space, the Netflix documentary that aired in April. Lauren estimates these streams were just 5% of her time/duties…so needless to say, she kept busy.</p><p>Pathfinder is<a href="https://spideroak-ms.com/"> brought to you by SpiderOak Mission Systems —</a><a href="http://www.spideroak-ms.com/"> www.spideroak-ms.com</a> — an industry leader in space cybersecurity. Check out their<a href="http://spacecyber.com/"> space cybersecurity white paper</a> at <a href="http://www.spacecyber.com">www.spacecyber.com</a></p><h2>*SNEAK PEEK*</h2><p>In Pathfinder #0003, Lauren and Ryan discuss:</p><ul><li>Her winding career path through time and space</li><li>How working as a medical device R&D engineer helped prepare Lauren for SpaceX</li><li>Seeing friends on social media celebrate launching their spacecraft on Transporter missions</li><li>Operational efficiency and seeing SpaceX hit its stride</li><li>Launching Starlink</li><li>HLS, Orbital Reef work @ Blue Origin</li><li>Team Space is "super mission-oriented and mission-driven"</li><li>Competing with Big Tech for talent</li><li>The role of company culture in shipping space products successfully</li><li>Lean startup operations during downturns</li><li>Life after SpaceX, for Lauren and her coworkers</li><li>Reducing the barriers to entry for space entrepreneurs</li><li>The SpaceX mafia and new deeptech startups/verticals</li><li>What the general public gets wrong about the space sector</li><li>Lauren & Ryan's shared love for the Supernatural VR fitness app </li><li>Moving past "space is hard"</li></ul><p>…and more!</p><h2>*ABOUT US*</h2><p>Pathfinder is powered by Payload, a modern space media brand. Subscribe to our industry-leading daily newsletter at payloadspace.com. Thanks again to SpiderOak Mission Systems for supporting Pathfinder.</p><p>Finally, as Ryan mentioned in the conversation before the break, here’s the thread from Payload Director of Operations Jess Lis about investing in deeptech during downturns: https://twitter.com/jessicaxlis/status/1530262449139724290</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to Pathfinder, a new weekly show where Payload Managing Editor Ryan Duffy sits down with the shot-callers in space to discuss all the top news and trends beyond Earth. </p><p>In Pathfinder #0002, Ryan sits down with Rob Meyerson, the founder and CEO of Delalune Space and former president of Blue Origin.</p><p>Pathfinder is<a href="https://spideroak-ms.com/"> brought to you by SpiderOak Mission Systems</a>, an industry leader in space cybersecurity. Check out their<a href="http://spacecyber.com/"> space cybersecurity white paper here</a>.</p><h2>*ABOUT ROB MEYERSON*</h2><p>While at Blue Origin, Rob reported directly to Jeff Bezos, oversaw Blue’s growth from 10 to 1,500 employees, and managed development of New Shepard, among many other programs. Rob has also worked at NASA and Kistler Aerospace.</p><p>Delalune is a management consulting firm serving the aerospace, mobility, technology, and financial services sectors. At Delalune, which literally means “of the moon,” Rob backs and advises leading aerospace startups, including<a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/6Lm0ktaBUnHbbfsm6EsmNQ?si=TLwDVgCUT8qCr-QXia379g&nd=1"> Axiom Space</a>.</p><p>While he spends plenty of time in the private markets, Rob also sits at the junction of space and public capital markets. He is the CEO of C5 Acquisition Corp., a blank-check company seeking a SPAC merger “at the leading edge of national security innovation in space, cybersecurity, and energy transition.” Early on in the discussion, Rob shares his thoughts on why investors would be ill-advised to avoid investing in space during our current market downturn.</p><p>Later on, Rob and Ryan drill down on the products and services NASA is looking to buy rather than build or operate itself. Rob also surveys the technologies we’ll need to build, buy, deploy, and launch to ensure an expeditious return to the Moon and sustained presence on the lunar surface.</p><p>We touch on building out the lunar economy, then consider all the other puzzle pieces that humanity will need to assemble to not only go back to the Moon, but also set the stage for a lasting multiplanetary future.</p><h2>*CHAPTERS*</h2><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvEkAqUhg2I&t=113s">1:53</a> - The NS-21 crewed spaceflight mission </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvEkAqUhg2I&t=240s">4:00</a> - Joining Blue Origin at the tail end of its think tank stage </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvEkAqUhg2I&t=264s">4:24</a> - Reporting directly to Jeff Bezos, Rob's expansive portfolio of duties, and scaling headcount from 10 to 1,500</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvEkAqUhg2I&t=434s">7:14</a> - Blue in stealth mode </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvEkAqUhg2I&t=540s">9:00</a> - After Beal Aerospace shut down, "the most recent story about commercial space was a negative one."</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvEkAqUhg2I&t=687s">11:27</a> - Pockets of talent density in commercial space across the US</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvEkAqUhg2I&t=955s">15:55</a> - Why we'd be ill-advised to stop investing in space during a potential market pullback</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvEkAqUhg2I&t=1148s">19:08</a> - Defense/aerospace industrial base discussion </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvEkAqUhg2I&t=1352s">22:32</a> - Space market assessment, data, and NASA procurement opportunities for startups</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvEkAqUhg2I&t=1665s">27:45</a> - What's the killer app for low-Earth orbit? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvEkAqUhg2I&t=1815s">30:15</a> - The need for reentry vehicles from low-Earth orbit and return services to Earth </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvEkAqUhg2I&t=1898s">31:38</a> - Cost-plus contracting </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvEkAqUhg2I&t=2102s">35:02</a> - NASA planting a flag on the moon, and staying, and what that might mean for commercial space entrepreneurs</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvEkAqUhg2I&t=2171s">36:11</a> - Lunar services and businesses that excite Rob</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvEkAqUhg2I&t=2329s">38:49</a> - Overhyped/underhyped aspects of space </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvEkAqUhg2I&t=2466s">41:06</a> - Rob's advice for students looking to break into the space industry</p><h2>*ABOUT US*</h2><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand. While we have designs on becoming the biggest space content company in the galaxy, for now, we send newsletters and publish podcasts. Subscribe to our flagship industry-leading daily newsletter at payloadspace.com</p>
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      <author>mo@arkaeamedia.com (Arkaea Media (Payload | Ignition | Tectonic))</author>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to Pathfinder, a new weekly show where Payload Managing Editor Ryan Duffy sits down with the shot-callers in space to discuss all the top news and trends beyond Earth. </p><p>In Pathfinder #0002, Ryan sits down with Rob Meyerson, the founder and CEO of Delalune Space and former president of Blue Origin.</p><p>Pathfinder is<a href="https://spideroak-ms.com/"> brought to you by SpiderOak Mission Systems</a>, an industry leader in space cybersecurity. Check out their<a href="http://spacecyber.com/"> space cybersecurity white paper here</a>.</p><h2>*ABOUT ROB MEYERSON*</h2><p>While at Blue Origin, Rob reported directly to Jeff Bezos, oversaw Blue’s growth from 10 to 1,500 employees, and managed development of New Shepard, among many other programs. Rob has also worked at NASA and Kistler Aerospace.</p><p>Delalune is a management consulting firm serving the aerospace, mobility, technology, and financial services sectors. At Delalune, which literally means “of the moon,” Rob backs and advises leading aerospace startups, including<a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/6Lm0ktaBUnHbbfsm6EsmNQ?si=TLwDVgCUT8qCr-QXia379g&nd=1"> Axiom Space</a>.</p><p>While he spends plenty of time in the private markets, Rob also sits at the junction of space and public capital markets. He is the CEO of C5 Acquisition Corp., a blank-check company seeking a SPAC merger “at the leading edge of national security innovation in space, cybersecurity, and energy transition.” Early on in the discussion, Rob shares his thoughts on why investors would be ill-advised to avoid investing in space during our current market downturn.</p><p>Later on, Rob and Ryan drill down on the products and services NASA is looking to buy rather than build or operate itself. Rob also surveys the technologies we’ll need to build, buy, deploy, and launch to ensure an expeditious return to the Moon and sustained presence on the lunar surface.</p><p>We touch on building out the lunar economy, then consider all the other puzzle pieces that humanity will need to assemble to not only go back to the Moon, but also set the stage for a lasting multiplanetary future.</p><h2>*CHAPTERS*</h2><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvEkAqUhg2I&t=113s">1:53</a> - The NS-21 crewed spaceflight mission </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvEkAqUhg2I&t=240s">4:00</a> - Joining Blue Origin at the tail end of its think tank stage </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvEkAqUhg2I&t=264s">4:24</a> - Reporting directly to Jeff Bezos, Rob's expansive portfolio of duties, and scaling headcount from 10 to 1,500</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvEkAqUhg2I&t=434s">7:14</a> - Blue in stealth mode </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvEkAqUhg2I&t=540s">9:00</a> - After Beal Aerospace shut down, "the most recent story about commercial space was a negative one."</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvEkAqUhg2I&t=687s">11:27</a> - Pockets of talent density in commercial space across the US</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvEkAqUhg2I&t=955s">15:55</a> - Why we'd be ill-advised to stop investing in space during a potential market pullback</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvEkAqUhg2I&t=1148s">19:08</a> - Defense/aerospace industrial base discussion </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvEkAqUhg2I&t=1352s">22:32</a> - Space market assessment, data, and NASA procurement opportunities for startups</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvEkAqUhg2I&t=1665s">27:45</a> - What's the killer app for low-Earth orbit? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvEkAqUhg2I&t=1815s">30:15</a> - The need for reentry vehicles from low-Earth orbit and return services to Earth </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvEkAqUhg2I&t=1898s">31:38</a> - Cost-plus contracting </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvEkAqUhg2I&t=2102s">35:02</a> - NASA planting a flag on the moon, and staying, and what that might mean for commercial space entrepreneurs</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvEkAqUhg2I&t=2171s">36:11</a> - Lunar services and businesses that excite Rob</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvEkAqUhg2I&t=2329s">38:49</a> - Overhyped/underhyped aspects of space </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvEkAqUhg2I&t=2466s">41:06</a> - Rob's advice for students looking to break into the space industry</p><h2>*ABOUT US*</h2><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand. While we have designs on becoming the biggest space content company in the galaxy, for now, we send newsletters and publish podcasts. Subscribe to our flagship industry-leading daily newsletter at payloadspace.com</p>
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      <title>Your Next Space Landlord: Axiom&apos;s Michael Suffredini on Private Space Stations</title>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Axiom is a Houston-based space startup unicorn. Axiom is building a space station, brokering private spaceflight missions with SpaceX, and even has a slot at the International Space Station (ISS) with its name on it. If you can't tell, we love saying the word space.</p><p>Suffredini is one of the world’s foremost authorities on building and operating space stations. He spent three decades at NASA and 10 years as the ISS program manager, before hanging up his space agency cleats and starting Axiom with Kam Ghaffarian.</p><p>In April, Axiom clinched a world, or maybe intergalactic, first. Together with SpaceX, Axiom launched Ax-1, the first all-private mission to the ISS. In our conversation, recorded in early May, Suffredini shares plenty with us on Ax-1, Axiom's business model, his time at NASA, Tom Cruise's LEO movie, in-space manufacturing, and much more.</p><p>Pathfinder's first episode is<a href="https://spideroak-ms.com/"> brought to you by SpiderOak Mission Systems</a>, an industry leader in space cybersecurity.</p><h2>*CHAPTERS*</h2><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=0s">0:00</a> - intro</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=93s">1:33</a> - Ax-1 mission introduction </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=187s">3:07</a> - Staying busy after the mission concluded</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=257s">4:17</a> - Looking back at the launch, what surprised Mike the most?</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=410s">6:50</a> - Mike’s departure from NASA, fateful convos with eventual Axiom cofounder Dr. Kam Ghaffarian, and the decision to start Axiom </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=580s">9:40</a> - “He called me back probably the next day and said: 'Okay, I'm in. Let's go build a space station.'”</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=714s">11:54</a> - How could a commercial station improve upon what’s been started with the ISS? What’s different between public and private stations? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=801s">13:21</a> - Spacewalks are expensive and time-consuming, but necessary to repair American components outside the International Space Station</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=853s">14:13</a> - At the ISS, “we transitioned to a laptop you could buy online.” Axiom is taking this approach to a whole new level.</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=880s">14:40</a> - UX (user experience) space stations - a niche but important discipline</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=929s">15:29</a> - Fixing issues in flight without calling the ground and using automated onboard hardware</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=950s">15:50</a> - Cost comparisons between public and private stations </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=970s">16:10</a> - Buy vs. build</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=1087s">18:07</a> - Vertical integration </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=1196s">19:56</a> - Axiom’s roadmap: Phase #1 @<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=1204s"> 20:04</a>, Phase #2 @<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=1305s"> 21:45</a>, and Phase #3 @<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=1366s"> 22:46</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=1426s">23:46</a> - Later this century, Axiom has sci-fi visions of creating rotating space cities in low-Earth orbit</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=1584s">26:24</a> - NASA shifting from owning/operating a station to being one customer on it </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=1864s">31:04</a> - Axiom’s target markets, from applied research to in-space manufacturing</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=1996s">33:16</a> - “The big thing that’s really ‘gonna change our lives”...</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=1992s">33:12</a> - The killer app for space stations?</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=2161s">36:01</a> - Internet analogy … and Amazon comparison @<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=2407s"> 40:07</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=2240s">37:20</a> - Inspiring kids to start thinking about microgravity and building products/businesses suited to the conditions of microgravity</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=2572s">42:52</a> - “The movie flight is the worst-kept secret in the industry” (👀Tom Cruise👀)</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=2633s">43:53 - </a>Closing out the show with a bunch of Texas questions</p><h2>*ABOUT US*</h2><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand. While we have designs on becoming the biggest space content company in the galaxy, for now, we send newsletters and publish podcasts. Subscribe to our flagship industry-leading daily newsletter at payloadspace.com</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2022 10:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>mo@arkaeamedia.com (Arkaea Media (Payload | Ignition | Tectonic))</author>
      <link>https://pod.payloadspace.com/</link>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Axiom is a Houston-based space startup unicorn. Axiom is building a space station, brokering private spaceflight missions with SpaceX, and even has a slot at the International Space Station (ISS) with its name on it. If you can't tell, we love saying the word space.</p><p>Suffredini is one of the world’s foremost authorities on building and operating space stations. He spent three decades at NASA and 10 years as the ISS program manager, before hanging up his space agency cleats and starting Axiom with Kam Ghaffarian.</p><p>In April, Axiom clinched a world, or maybe intergalactic, first. Together with SpaceX, Axiom launched Ax-1, the first all-private mission to the ISS. In our conversation, recorded in early May, Suffredini shares plenty with us on Ax-1, Axiom's business model, his time at NASA, Tom Cruise's LEO movie, in-space manufacturing, and much more.</p><p>Pathfinder's first episode is<a href="https://spideroak-ms.com/"> brought to you by SpiderOak Mission Systems</a>, an industry leader in space cybersecurity.</p><h2>*CHAPTERS*</h2><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=0s">0:00</a> - intro</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=93s">1:33</a> - Ax-1 mission introduction </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=187s">3:07</a> - Staying busy after the mission concluded</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=257s">4:17</a> - Looking back at the launch, what surprised Mike the most?</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=410s">6:50</a> - Mike’s departure from NASA, fateful convos with eventual Axiom cofounder Dr. Kam Ghaffarian, and the decision to start Axiom </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=580s">9:40</a> - “He called me back probably the next day and said: 'Okay, I'm in. Let's go build a space station.'”</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=714s">11:54</a> - How could a commercial station improve upon what’s been started with the ISS? What’s different between public and private stations? </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=801s">13:21</a> - Spacewalks are expensive and time-consuming, but necessary to repair American components outside the International Space Station</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=853s">14:13</a> - At the ISS, “we transitioned to a laptop you could buy online.” Axiom is taking this approach to a whole new level.</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=880s">14:40</a> - UX (user experience) space stations - a niche but important discipline</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=929s">15:29</a> - Fixing issues in flight without calling the ground and using automated onboard hardware</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=950s">15:50</a> - Cost comparisons between public and private stations </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=970s">16:10</a> - Buy vs. build</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=1087s">18:07</a> - Vertical integration </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=1196s">19:56</a> - Axiom’s roadmap: Phase #1 @<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=1204s"> 20:04</a>, Phase #2 @<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=1305s"> 21:45</a>, and Phase #3 @<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=1366s"> 22:46</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=1426s">23:46</a> - Later this century, Axiom has sci-fi visions of creating rotating space cities in low-Earth orbit</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=1584s">26:24</a> - NASA shifting from owning/operating a station to being one customer on it </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=1864s">31:04</a> - Axiom’s target markets, from applied research to in-space manufacturing</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=1996s">33:16</a> - “The big thing that’s really ‘gonna change our lives”...</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=1992s">33:12</a> - The killer app for space stations?</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=2161s">36:01</a> - Internet analogy … and Amazon comparison @<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=2407s"> 40:07</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=2240s">37:20</a> - Inspiring kids to start thinking about microgravity and building products/businesses suited to the conditions of microgravity</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=2572s">42:52</a> - “The movie flight is the worst-kept secret in the industry” (👀Tom Cruise👀)</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYysKB3LOu0&t=2633s">43:53 - </a>Closing out the show with a bunch of Texas questions</p><h2>*ABOUT US*</h2><p>Pathfinder is brought to you by Payload, a modern space media brand. While we have designs on becoming the biggest space content company in the galaxy, for now, we send newsletters and publish podcasts. Subscribe to our flagship industry-leading daily newsletter at payloadspace.com</p>
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      <itunes:title>Your Next Space Landlord: Axiom&apos;s Michael Suffredini on Private Space Stations</itunes:title>
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